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I mean, would you label the film The Departed as a romantic comedy because there is some funny parts and some romantic scenes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:44 PM
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I'm not talking about art I'm talking about genre
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:43 PM
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That'd be if I called myself a food critic having no understanding whatsoever of the preparation of meals and I labelled a hamburger as a "fine breakfast food" because it is a fine food that I sometimes eat at breakfast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:43 PM
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I think if someone who calls themselves a film critic doesn't know what genre is they should rescind their formal title until they educate themselves on films and the film industry before they become a film critic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:42 PM
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If there is a romance and its funny I get it, by the same token I could say "a movie is an action movie if it has action" this makes Princess Bride an action movie. A movie is a thriller if there is a tense moment, there are a lot of tense moments so now it is a thriller. A movie is a drama if there is drama, so now it is a drama. I think good narratives have multiple elements of a variety of aspects, when we talk about genre films we are talking about a "rom com" not a movie that incorporates r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:38 PM
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Princess Bride is not a genre film of rom com, neither is Deadpool. In fact, most of the movies on your list aren't genre films of romantic comedy. Having some romance and having some comedy doesn't make a movie a genre film of romantic comedy. In a romantic comedy, the central over arching plot is always the relationship between the main characters. You put Wall E on this list, too? C'mon, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:08 PM
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I saw one with Matthew Mcconaughey several years back I really enjoyed called How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days, I think that's what it was called. Very funny, prime movie, definitely recommend it to anyone. I didn't watch it to learn how to pick up chicks, its not an instruction manual at all. Then again, Predator is not an instruction manual either, although the movie is so beloved to me I have a limited edition poster of it on my wall. I don't seek out rom coms, I haven't seen one in years, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1q4UpBdfI Rare footage of OP
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:30 AM
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Depends. When you say committed relationship I assume this is a man giving his word to be faithful. Gender relations and biological imperatives aside, I myself believe strongly in being a man of my word. If I say I will offer commitment, I will uphold it and I do believe that being sneaky/craven/sideways/backstabbing on my word would deteriorate the quality of the relationship if this were the hypothetical scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:05 AM
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My opinions adapt with new information and new experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:30 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:06 AM
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hot yep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:05 AM
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I am glad to hear that you can't relate to it.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 08:44 PM
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Well, women are objectively terrible compared to men. The way I do it impartially is not to compare them to be men or ask them to be men. They are devious, untrustworthy, sluts, practically thieves and whores. But, if you just compare women to other women then they are pretty average instead of only terrible. Men are objectively superior to women though and by contrasting women with men they are terrible men, but they are great women. Just gotta shift the lens to another angle without changing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:43 PM
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It is normal and it will become less frequent. No one told you how LTRs go. It's normal to feel grief to learn that women aren't dedicated or loyal like men are. If you internalize the lesson, you will not expect this nor be hurt by this in the future. For now, it is normal to have on going and long grieving. Don't judge yourself or suppress the feelings. Simply, acknowledge the feelings. Don't let them dictate your actions, focus on how you want to feel in the future, and take concrete physical…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 10:32 AM
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That is disturbingly peculiar. I wish it weren't that way, but what I wish and what is real are too often opposed in nature of reality and dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:40 AM
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I see what you are saying. Security is definitely bigger than attraction just like you say it is. So, what happens when, given your reasoning, a woman marries a man more for security than she does attraction? How does a man feel when she is willing to live off of his work, but she is unattracted and unwilling to copulate with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:57 AM
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You are probably right. There is a reason those books sold like wildfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:56 AM
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Hahaha, yeah it is so stupid how the mental gymnastics get around that conundrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:54 AM
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Haha, yeah. Condoms are for people who have sex. There has got to be a way to be attractive without being destructive. Maybe indifference is the greatest goal? Well, there is no doubt that assholishness is super attractive. That sure makes it difficult for men who mean well and want to do well, but also want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:49 AM
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I don't know, either!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:38 AM
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I wish it were that simple. I say that thinking of this old song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI02MYwwUzM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:53 AM
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Do men in your experience say they are happy and seem happy despite contradictory things going under the surface?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:34 AM
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You think she was?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:36 AM
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I like your reminder of grandpas. I am glad to be reminded because one is dead and the other is an abusive paranoid schizophrenic who uses and accuses irrationally. I am glad if you have good grandpa(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:35 AM
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I don't think I said or implied a man did look at beauty as a proxy for goodness. Certainly some men project it where it is not, the women are wonderful effect. It is useful to both men and women to know that only mothers and to a certain degree, fathers, will love you for who you are. Other than that, people and their interactions are transactional; Even (especially) when they say it isn't. That isn't a bad thing. But, men who aren't told that love is transactional in the context of a sexual/ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:13 AM
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If there is a man who is not already attractive like you are, I don't think female company is going to be conducive to increasing sexual attractiveness; I do think males are a better resource for this. Do you think all PUA teach people to force themselves on women, or would you be willing to consider the possibility that maybe some of them do? I do have concerns of affirmative consent. I don't want women to be traumatized, and I don't want men to unknowingly "rape" someone and get penalized by t…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 04:05 AM
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Social lives are useful. I'd agree with you and also add that there are men in the world, I am one of them, who will help men just out of the goodness in my heart. My only caveat is that if they try to hang around me and do not take concrete action to better themselves then I will withdraw my support. I will always help someone down on their luck who is trying their best to get back on my feet, but I will not be your mother or let people mooch off of me. That being said, I agree with you that a …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 03:01 AM
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I think what's causing it is that men want people to be attracted to them, but they don't want to be attractive in order to achieve this goal. There is certainly also resentment that many women do not have to put effort into being desirable, so why should we? Its certainly not fair, but life isn't fair. Sitting around and complaining about life not being fair isn't a good sexual strategy to get laid. Taking action to even the odds is a better step to getting laid. Millenials seem to have a letha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:02 PM
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Yep, I do like to enjoy life in the moment and taking concrete steps toward that goal and taking responsibility to make that happen should make it easy. Glad to hear that shifted for your relationship and now you are both approaching it the way you want to. Cheers, lookin' forward to forgetting and just focusing on a better today and the best tomorrow and taking action to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:56 PM
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What is retroactive rape? Women, especially among younger people, are generally more willing to identify and express an emotion than a young man. However, a young man who is emotionally intelligent will be a far better resource for support than a woman is for another male because he can relate more directly to your experience so he can give you better precision feedback, listening, and advice if you want any from him his advice will be leaps and bounds better than a girl's. I have little sympath…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 05:19 PM
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Preselection is great, a wide social circle is great, female acquaintances are great- Draw the line at allowing your hot babe hanger ons into the inner circle of trust.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 05:11 PM
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You are right to notice that knowing and doing are separate things. More important than rote knowledge are daily and weekly habits. Being trustworthy with ourselves and holding ourselves accountable to take measurable, attainable steps toward a larger goal or goals. I never lose; I either win or I learn. There is no substitute to doing. I have heard that knowing is half the battle, but I think knowing is one tenth or less of the battle. I think over ninety percent of the battle is just getting o…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:59 AM
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What did these women tell you about sexual encounters and sexual power dynamics?
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:56 AM
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Women are always scanning their potential for better dick. If she is able to tie down a man she is more attracted to than you she will leave you and/or cheat on you during. But yeah, in a lot of foreign places white is attractive and seen as upper class and stuff so you'll definitely get a racial bonus on your game modifier in certain areas, you're right.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:51 AM
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At 18 most of us still weren't given the tools to succeed sexually as men. Hard to apply knowledge that you don't have. What counts for you is now that you know better you are doing better and it will get better and you will feel better.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:47 AM
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These hoes ain't loyal lol
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:45 AM
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Thanks for fixing his typo!
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:43 AM
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I heavily define people by their biological sex. I am a male and I vocalize emotional intelligence very well, it is a hobby of mine. Female friends take, take, and take whereas men have a more balanced give and take with each other. Male friends will appreciate your friendship, but women will feel entitled to it. They are a nightmare to try to work out with because they don't want to have a good workout like men do they just want to talk and be mellow. I just can't think of any non sexual contex…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 09:30 AM
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That's really helpful feedback, thank you.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 06:35 AM
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If you don't like having sex than a mens' sexual strategy forum might not be the best place for you.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 04:20 AM
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I make friendships aggressively, I call people, I write them, I ask them to spend time, I basically am a relentless assault of friendship on men who are doing the things I'm doing and are good, fun, wholesome company. The reciprocal effect of that is then people call me, ask me to spend time, write me, and I just start by taking a lot of initiative. I also express gratitude to my good friends and thank them for being good friends. If nothing else, verbally expressing appreciation helps me mainta…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 04:03 AM
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I like how you pick up on the non verbal communication that happens when a girl signals that she is the leader and you are her subordinate or second in command. Its a huge turnoff. It is definitely unattractive for anyone witnessing that. May I ask you why you are hanging out with a girl who is not attracted to you in the first place?
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 10:48 PM
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What's the best piece of advice you can offer me about how to express my thoughts, life, stories, and beliefs in an attractive way?
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 10:43 PM
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Congratulations on your epiphany and positive growth that you don't need anyone to agree with your or understand you to be able to feel OK doing what's right for you and your life. I'm glad to hear you got your balls back from that woman. Welcome to your new life of never apologizing to anyone and asking permission from no one to do what you want to do.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 10:41 PM
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Not at the moment. I'd like to have a super positive mindset like an RSDTyler type about women. Presently, I resent and feel anger that people ever asked me to trust women or told me that a huge key to happiness was finding a woman I could trust. I wasted my time putting effort into an illusion so, yes, I feel anger. Eventually, as my life continues improving on an upward spiral which it will because I am a disciplined man who puts effort and enjoys putting work and effort into his life, these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:35 PM
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That's a good point, knowing is not the same as doing. Its pointless to know how to diet and how to properly exercise if you don't utilize that knowledge and choose to sit on your ass all day. Same with harsh truths about women. If you don't apply it to your life, what good is knowing doing anyone?
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 10:28 PM
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I understand what AWALT means and I agree with it and its consistent with my life experience. I think that makes me redder than some reds who still pine away wishing for a unicorn that they can trust and who will love them. Women aren't capable of loyalty or trust and its good to accept that and lead a happy life instead of searching in vain for someone who cannot be found. I don't have idealisms. I set goals and I reach goals and I create and choose my goals within the confines of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:16 PM
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Does OP view all men who don't fall in line with RP party lines as self deceptive men? I don't waste my time/energy deceiving myself, I don't relate to Mitch in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:35 PM
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I didn't say passion wasn't neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:39 PM
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You are saying passion is good and anger is bad. I am saying that anger is neutral and it depends on how someone handles being angry whether it will be attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:02 PM
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perplexed like how?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:01 PM
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Power and passion are distinct. I am saying a weak person displaying passion usually looks like he/she is physically weak, emotionally weak, their passion becomes a liability or a nuisance to people around them and I don't think its sexy. What you describe, people who channel and discipline their passion into skills like poetry, fighting, self control, etc. is attractive. I think that anger that is expressed in the same way you describe passion being expressed is sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:01 PM
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It is possible to feel emotion and express emotion without emotion taking over the driver seat and making all the (bad) decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:58 PM
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Humans naturally feel anger if something is out of place, if a boundary is crossed, etc. Anger gets a bad rap because most people either stuff it down, or misdirect their anger, or become a danger to themself and others around them when they are angry. I don't think a man can be at his max level of attractiveness if he has repressed anger, I think women pick up on an intuitive level that this man is not at peace with one of the emotions his body tries to feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:57 PM
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You have this backward. Passion isn't a component of anger, passion is all emotions expressed, so anger is a component of passion. If a man cannot express his anger he is limited in how passionate he can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:53 PM
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This sounds good, but I'm going to challenge you that you are describing anger and just using the word passion as a euphemism for anger because passion actually covers all emotions, not just any one. What I think you are saying is that a man who expresses his emotions from a state of direction and power, that 'passion', is sexy. So, if strong passion is sexy, it stands to reason that anger, being part of passion, would be sexy coming from a position of strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:52 PM
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Good, bad, or mixed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:44 PM
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Yeah, this girl is a parasite and she disrespects you by asking you to take on all the responsibilities of a boyfriend while she's fucking another man. Don't put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:43 PM
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Its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:42 PM
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So you're a special friend who gets to bear all the weight of her problems while a guy who is better than you and sexier than you gets to sleep with her. No offense, but have you considered therapy for yourself? I mean no offense because I go to therapy. Therapists help me cultivate more self respect and it looks like you don't value yourself very much if you are letting yourself be treated this way by her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:41 PM
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He's right, don't be a "Captain Save a Ho" My flair is related.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:38 PM
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She's not going to fall in love with you. Run away before you get too invested and hurt yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:35 PM
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The way you describe this sounds like she has your balls wrapped firmly in her grasp. What I mean, is, I don't think she's a very good friend to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:34 PM
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You are welcome, thanks for the appreciation :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:29 AM
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Exactly, personality and social skills I think of as add ons that do impact things and are important, but physical looks are the foundation. Basically, to me, having social skills and personality without looks would be like having a car stereo and car air conditioning but not actually have a car, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:03 AM
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Haha, I love it, and its so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:37 PM
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Depends, if a guy is an asshole and also not a cool guy sure yeah not a lot of women will be attracted especially if he's ugly. But if he's a badass, rebel, takes charge, dominates, all that manly man stuff and he looks good to boot its going to make some panties wet there's no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:55 PM
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They're setting men up for dead bedroom marriages. It is practically a thought crime to brainwash men into believing that physical attraction is unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:54 PM
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Yeah, there's no substitute for physical attraction. Being likable without a good body is not going to make a man fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:53 PM
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They will have to cry themselves to sleep on their money. I think STEM lords should just take all that cash and live the playboy life, a STEM lord can still lift so they wont be gross, maybe they won't have a super high charisma score, but money can add bonus modifiers on CHA rolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:48 PM
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No, I think you're wrong. I don't think its a wholly logical, rational decision in the rational brain to pick the bad boy, I think its the primal brain that picks the bad guy. That is because women who are in no danger rationally will consistently pick the bad boy over the nice guy if they are physically comparable in appearance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:46 PM
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Nice humble brag
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:45 PM
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Women aren't bad or evil, its just they get offered lots of free attention from guys they want attention from and from guys they don't. At the end of the day, they go the first half of their life taking guys for granted. Not because they are bad people, just because that is what they have experienced. Some girls are surprised to learn that it isn't as easy for a guy to get laid as it is for her, its not that she's stupid she's just never had cause or reason to stop and consider it or give that q…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:44 PM
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I would define it as raw strength, masculinity which translates into sex appeal. A man who is strong physically, strong mentally, and strong emotionally where strength is defined as an ability to exert force and will over himself and others, usually himself though. Masculinity is neither good nor evil, its just raw strength and confidence and hopefully appealing looks if they are good in health and dress well get a good hair cut, whatever, they probably look the part, too. Betas think like shyer…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:38 PM
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Men have sex drives so they want to know how to have sex. When people talk about pussy on a pedestal that's more like projecting all these "women are wonderful" traits onto random people with double X genes. Slaying pussy =\= putting pussy on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:34 PM
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Depends on the artist, I guess. Could definitely get you in trouble socially. Some people get angry when they find out you can reverse engineer sexual attraction. It shouldn't get you into trouble legally as long as you don't do something stupid like forcibly crossing a "no" that's a bad move to violate a boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:29 AM
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What is with millenials thinking that sales and pickup artists are inherently exploitative or immoral. Pickup artists are just one of many people who socially engineer a method to get a specific outcome. Its no different than an advertising agency who learns what sort of images and graphics will sell the most product. There is nothing inherently immoral about appearing and sounding to be quite like what these women are looking for in the first place, like, I'm sorry you wanted casual sex with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:01 AM
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It's true, people talk more about what isn't working than they do what is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 02:45 AM
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they can't raid us while they participate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:57 PM
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Reports may have been slightly exaggerated. We talk a big game, but the murders are fake and the blood is supplied by a beta orbiter from the prop department
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:29 AM
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Its true, we light candles and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:14 AM
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There really isn't. The whole 'civilization is collapsing' is just chicken littles pretending that the sky is falling to try to throw a tantrum and hoping women will pity fuck them to save America, hahahaha, its so stupid it blows my mind that people actually believe their own hype on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:13 AM
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Thumbs up!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:16 PM
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Yeah, you said women being domestic was in the best interest of society. I say, its in the best interest of men, but not necessarily women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:16 PM
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Chad is the patron saint of pussy chasers and dick riders. He is who men want to be and who women want to sleep with. Chad is the paragon of masculine sex appeal and the divine embodiment of confidence, strength, and charisma. He's like your shadow, if your shadow was always in front of you, you can never outrun him nor keep up with his pace. He doesn't drown in pussy because no matter how many people sit on his face his lungs are too manly and his breaths too deep to suffocate. He's an intangib…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:15 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:04 PM
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Yeah, he's always got good feedback, why wouldn't he be confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:04 PM
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It was humorous, he found an attractive Chad who is literally named Chad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:03 PM
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Hahahaha! So perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:02 PM
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I don't buy into the whole "women force marry betas to strengthen civilization narrative". I believe that whole conspiracy theory was invented to justify the old system with morals of some kind. Truth is, the statistically average male is always going to be unhappier, face more tension, compete and lose for sex, etc. etc. and there's no reason in nature or civilization to help everyone you might characterize as beta get laid. Its time for men to let go of this idea that bending the will of sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:41 PM
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Agreed, people want to believe there is some kind of comeuppance for women having it easier than men. There isn't, there's no magical god of balance running around and checking the scales. Some people just have a disproportionate advantage compared to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:36 PM
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Are you sure that's men you're describing because that sounds only like men with options, maybe you just always were with super sexy guys or something; Usually, there's lower value dudes desperately trying to cling to partners who want to open it up "honestly" with all the caveats of millenial feel good nonsense and screw other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:32 PM
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So, more accurately it would be monoamorous or something as a term. Society has hijacked the word monogamy and crashed into the towers of language so it was easy for me to substitute the word with its colloquial meaning until you reminded me here of the dictionary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:25 PM
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Its technically monogamy, but it just doesn't have what you think monogamy would have because there is no commitment, work, or investment and they bail on the ship every time the water gets choppy and find a new ship to ride. In this case ships are penises. Its a shady gray area where they technically aren't cheating to end a relationship in the afternoon and date and fuck someone else that night, but it sure looks like just being a classic slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:23 PM
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Yeah, its a crucial ingredient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:24 AM
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I don't know who he is, and I like that you bring the nuance. But yeah, the rules as I arranged them assume the guy at least is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:08 AM
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I fixed Mr. Plinkett's list to arrange the dos and don'ts in terms of what will and wont help get someone laid. Dos: -Inappropriate complements -Inappropriate Assertiveness -Talking too much about yourself and your job -Supports Fascism -Creepy sex looks -Interrupting -psychotic monomaniacal rant -Good Looks -Ask questions -Appropriate Assertiveness Don'ts: -Talk'n about love -Carrying her luggage -Listening to her prattle on about herself -weird creepy comments -begging for sex -murders women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:17 AM
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To be clear, expression of superiority are your words not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:02 AM
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You refuted something I didn't say. I'm not going to defend something I didn't say, but I will point out I didn't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:59 AM
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Does she also initiate sex? Can I have her number?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:00 AM
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How? By separating results from intended results?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 12:32 AM
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Everyone knows the basics, eat, exercise, sleep, and dress better. Plenty of people also know to improve their mental self image of themselves and correct their posture and gestures. Another important thing to do is become independent from women for validation and happiness. If your happiness and self esteem aren't independent from women, you will not be as attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:23 PM
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Oops, gotta move this where it belongs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:22 PM
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Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:19 PM
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wut
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:17 PM
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Thanks, haha. I'm not talking cheating just n count. Yeah, if I even smelled a suspicion that a woman dared try to think of herself as having pity sex with me I would be revolted. Huge turnoff. I'd tell her to go fuck herself and show her the door, haha. Sounds like you had good intentions though xD that was nice of you to try to help him. E for effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:15 PM
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Men experience cheating differently than women. Most men are territorial by nature and experienced more lethal destructive or self destructive tendencies when cheated on than women. Sadly, this is a nuanced issue I don't want to delve too deeply into let me clarify very explicitly that I abhor and condemn violence against women and violence against oneself. Having said that, statistically a man is more likely to kill himself or his wife or both after being cheated on than a wife is in the same s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:13 PM
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Guy would still count it though: https://giphy.com/gifs/lonely-island-textless-i-just-had-sex-fVi9rV7geEJ1K Image related.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:14 PM
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What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:10 PM
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Hahahaha! That's funny, so true, I should check out some Bill Hicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:28 PM
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Oops, moved to the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:56 PM
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Haha, yeah. Satan would have to get a divine intervention from all the pussy he'd be drowning in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:53 PM
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You say "its ending anyways" as an excuse to break your word instead of ending it cleanly and not going behind someone's back and running everything through the muck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:43 AM
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Did you just quote yourself by accident. Its easy to set up, but there's no magical old shaman man cosmic guarantee that someone wont find out or suspect. Haven't you heard that expression about the best laid plans?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:24 AM
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Its not equal, its worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:30 AM
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I can lead you to water, but I can't make you drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:53 PM
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tumblr.com
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:35 PM
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Typical feminist viewpoint, men are responsible for women acting irresponsible. Either that is true and women really can't behave or think independently, or women are just blaming their mistakes on men. Either option looks pretty grim for the case you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:17 PM
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Honestly, I am glad to read this and I believe you personally, but I think you're in the minority of women and you are most certainly the minority of women in my own solipsistic experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:14 PM
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I wouldn't go that far, I would say that some users have a certain cognitive dissonance when it comes to exemplifying particular behavior that frustrates them when they are on the receiving end. I complain about mind games with a clean conscience because I myself do not play them on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:12 PM
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Because the opposite gender has frequent frustrations with each other. Women can complain and bash men in the workplace, the home, the streets, mainstream forums, advertisements, and they get sympathy. If men complain about women, they get ostracized and run out of town and tarred and feathered. RP sub is one of the only places in the world where a man can vent his frustrations without almost certain systemic cultural reprisal. You wouldn't see it so much there if there were an equitable cultura…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:06 PM
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RP men read the 48 laws of power once and fancy themselves to be overnight a master Machiavellian manipulator, hahaha. If certain parts of the userbase are caught in a contradiction/lie, they will just pretend it was their plan all along to obscure and confuse the truth or some other bullshit. I don't really play that game, that's a really weird part of the subculture that doesn't appeal to me, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 09:04 PM
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What even is this thread like what's the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:58 PM
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MGTOW want women in their lives, they just want it on their terms. They are foolishly holding a candle for a bygone era and hoping that if enough of them band together they can change the tide of the zeitgeist. Its not gonna happen, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:56 PM
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I don't want you to believe anything one way or the other, I have my thoughts and experience on the matter and you have yours. I'm just telling you that I can't trust penis size surveys and you can't trust n count size surveys. If you can believe either one of those even if they are consistent (In my opinion, consistently inconsistent) that is your prerogative and you're not stupid or anything I'm not saying that. I'm just telling what I think about them. You can think whatever you want to about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:54 PM
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Women lie about cheating, or fall on habits of falsely lowering n count. "I just gave a blowjob to an old friend, its not like I was having an affair." You can't trust surveys. Women will hamster their way or just lie outright about cheating. Its like those surveys with penis size, can't trust them. Even when people know its anonymous, they still overestimate the size. You can't find the length of the average penis from a survey, and you can't find any accurate information on women cheating from…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:21 PM
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I believe this because I think men get more emotionally invested in their partners more often than women. Not because of any superiority, just that its harder for men to get a partner than it is for women so they end up holding on more for better or worse. Jury is out on whether finding a "good partner" is easier for which. Seems plenty of people are not stoked about their partners regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:43 PM
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I hope you are right. It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, but I'd like to see more of the types of people you are talking about in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:41 PM
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There is no such thing as friendzoning. The whole orbiter thing happens organically, I'm sure a few women engineer it, but I would bet most of them do it by accident by just being their usual cheery self to a dude who they would rather gouge out their own eyes than look at in a sexual way. Orbiters are largely clueless guy's fault, maybe a little bit culture's fault for lying to them that having a kind, warm, feminine disposition is somehow magically attractive to women because they want it to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:30 AM
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Body posture is great, doesn't help you unless you have a nice body to posture though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:26 AM
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Body language isn't as important for women as having a pulse. If they have a pulse, they can get almost any sex they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:25 AM
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The caveat was a hypothetical situation where they knew they could get away with it. That kind of certainty never happens in real life, but in the hypothetical where there was no chance of being caught, lots of people who otherwise wouldn't- would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:22 AM
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Being braggadocious is fine, but what would also be nice is if you had some material for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:19 AM
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Yes; No, maybe not if their husband/boyfriend is more attractive. If they could bang someone more attractive than their partner and knew they'd get away with it, I think most women would. More so even than men. Women don't get attached to men as often or as strongly as men get attached to women. This isn't to say women are more immoral than men, it just appears that way because they aren't as loyal as men. Women have a lifetime of men/sex/affection being easy to get so its pretty natural that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:15 AM
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Time and again in different economical, cultural, whatever its the same thing. The same few guys are banging most of the chicks, and the chicks are clueless as to why they can't seem to lock them down. There's just a weird thing where there's this oft repeated dynamic from the attractive males and the rest of the crowd. Lots of girls want them, and they're happy to fuck them. Girls are surprised that guy fucks other girls. Calls him "douchebag" and "player" and "fuckboi" and proceeds to continue…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:07 AM
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Incel posts being banned is proof that there is a god and it is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 02:07 AM
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It is true. Women handle stress better and there are a variety of factors. For one thing, the emotional processing part of the woman's brain is larger/stronger than a man's. She feels more intensely moment to moment whereas man's emotions are usually more chunky and steady. While this helps a man process rational information, it can be a hindrance to processing emotional stimuli and different people have different tools for dealing with that. Women also usually have more and tighter bonds with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:48 PM
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It is certainly not easy when I am beset by my own pains and needs, but understanding is what I value most in the world and trying to see something through another's eyes, even if its impossible, is a goal worth striving for for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:05 PM
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Its easy to get lost in my own experience and frustrations using my center as a gauge for perspective. I appreciate that you took the time to share your wisdom with me. It is true that women face a lot of difficulties that men don't, and I am reminded by you of the dangers of rape, STDs, and more that make it harder on women. I realize now that my generalizations come from a particularly bad experience recently with a woman who had once agreed to be partners with me and was happy enough with it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:37 PM
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Care to correct that hanging participle so I have something to respond to? Orrrrr
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:36 AM
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Not to the extent or the necessity or the time or the costs that men do. Women watch their weight. Men sculpt and build their weight and have to lose certain kinds and build others. There is no comparison. Women are attractive by virtue of being a woman. Men are only attractive if they put lots of time, effort, sometimes money, into being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:33 AM
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Full sentences? Grammar?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:32 AM
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Hours at the gym, checking their diet, spending on their clothes and health and nutrition and workouts. Women don't change their lifestyles to attract men the way men do to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:45 AM
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The dating world is unfair because women just don't get it. Most women honestly believe, inaccurately, that men have as easy a time getting laid as they do. Because they are at a severe advantage they don't understand their privilege in the arena of the casual hookup. Again, questions of fairness are stupid. Life isn't fair, it never was, it never will be, and the two sexes will never have an identical experience with sex, love, romance, commitment, etc. that's fine. However if someone does want…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:11 AM
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Not that I give a shit about fair, which is a stupid discussion, but even if you drag fair into the equation I say that you are wrong. Men pay sometimes on dates because they are vying for her and there are plenty of other dudes who would bang her in a heart beat and she is trying to secure the best possible mate out of all her suitors. Men spend more time, more money, and more energy being attractive to women than women will ever spend trying to be attractive to men. All that so called long bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:04 AM
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I wish this wasn't bringing incels into the equations. Yes, incels hate women. No, their failure with women is not reliant on them disrespecting women. The last bit sounds accurate enough. The situation plays out repeatedly. Women want the hottest dudliest dude they can get and those mythical "chads" have the pick of the litter. And it helps if he's dismissive of them. Just makes them want him more. Super hot dude can treat women like meat and they will be all over that. Its hot. The rest of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:57 AM
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I think RP talks about getting over rejection. Its called abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:24 AM
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Telling someone to lose the victim mentality isn't a whip. It is if you lead with that, but in dealing with an actual case I first listen to understand before responding. After listening, it would be a gallows transaction and passive destruction for me to validate a false world view. I can understand without agreeing. On PPD it may come across as more of a whip because this isn't a support forum or a place to just listen to grievances. Self proclaimed incels are coming to the debate forum saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:15 AM
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Its a fusion of jazz and funk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:53 AM
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That's great to get past the fear of rejection I'm not knocking that, but this is a debate sub about the merits or RP and all that and fear of rejection is and getting passed it is a pretty universal concept I just don't see how to take your success story and turn it into a conversation here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:43 AM
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As do I. I wasn't always a go getting positive winner. I have gone through depression and defeatism. After a certain point, if someone blames their upbringing and parents for the choices they make today as an adult, they are still viewing themselves as a helpless child. That line of thinking can be course corrected and any "involuntary" can become a voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:04 AM
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Skinny Sweaty, what percentage do you believe incels comprise of the male population?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:54 AM
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Get some flair up in this bitch I don't know how to respond to this rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:53 AM
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Its not that they made the whole mess of themselves, that's not my belief. We are "victims" to a degree of childhood imprinting and genetics and we can acknowledge the influence in what brought us here and grieve it. After the grieving, one can realize they are a powerful adult with power to change their life, their habits, their anything, so on and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:51 AM
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Speak for yourself in terms of "I" not "us" some of us "normies" aren't as "spergy" as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:47 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:46 AM
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Male suicide success rate is awfully high because we're better at finishing the job once we try. Getting people laid isn't going to fix the suicide rate, I don't see how you extrapolate that into this, its one huge facet of many. Curing the victim mentality will stop you from ending it and incidentally will also get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:46 AM
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Probably feel like the person who said that doesn't care about marvelous things because I am marvelous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:45 AM
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Why should they be fixed Because they spam the subreddit with complaints and requests for others to validate their victim mentality, and I will never validate their victim mentality and so they will just keep spamming incessantly. Kidding aside, I'm not saying they "need" to be fixed, but I am saying that they need to acknowledge that being "involuntarily celibate" is a self deprecating and self defeating myth that they need to let go of even though it helps absolve them of a sense of personal r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:45 AM
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Chivalry was just a code for catharism to trick the church into not burning them for their heresy. Catharism sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:43 AM
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I don't agree with your premise at all because women don't define things by what they are not. They just ask "Is it safe? Is it dangerous?" as a starter question because they are more often risk averse than men. Once they know its safe, then they get all the details about what it is and have plenty of confidence in their ideas. Men do this as well; Just not quite as frequently as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:54 PM
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We want sex more than women do. We have very, very little to fear in most circumstances from a woman objectifying us. The exception to this proves the rule. Inverse that to why women don't like being objectified as much as men do. Don't crave sex as much. Men are scarier to women than women are to men physically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 10:32 PM
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I don't define it, I just ask how other people mean when they say love. If someone asked me the same question I would probably just shrug. I mean different things depending on my tone and how I deliver the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:21 PM
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Cures are for ailments. Love, by any definition of the word, isn't an ailment unless you make it one or you inherit a dysfunctional model of love. Which, let's face it, most of us get handed an unrealistic model of love when we start out life as a level 1 human.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:42 AM
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This might be a semantics thing, you might have experienced all the symptoms people describe when they are in love, but you might not have thought of yourself as "in love". I hate semantics. Let me ask you this, have you been infatuated with someone or just enjoyed cuddling and watching a movie or something you have been "in love".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 02:27 AM
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What I am and what people say I am are not always congruent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 08:22 PM
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No, if two people hop in bed and she doesn't ask and hopes its implied, he shouldn't have to be immediately up front about it. That's on her for not asking. Barring extraordinary circumstances, no one should say they will do something they have no intention of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 05:37 PM
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Thank you, your recognition humbles me. I'm grateful you take an interest in the idealist paragraph, let me expound on it. I believe that the higher I set my goals the more I will accomplish. When I was a child a phrase that stuck with me from Howard Pyle was "He who leaps for the moon and misses jumps higher than he who stoops for a penny in the mud." That sentiment is echoed by a motivational speaker named Les Brown who said, "The problem isn't that people aim high and miss, the problem is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:34 PM
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Lol. I am a P, but I am very decisive I still explore all the options and possibilities but I put time limit on myself to make a decision, sometimes three seconds, sometimes three minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:16 PM
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I am passionate about how humans tick. I am interesting because I am a good listener and people like to talk. People are interested in that. I am interesting because I am in good physical shape and I am passionate about the health and fitness of my body and diet. I am interesting because people naturally feel recognized and honoured in my presence IRL for who they are and their natural abilities even if they haven't developed the skill for it. I am interesting because I know how to dream big dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:09 PM
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He does such a good job in voice acting as well, really makes me feel for the character. Performance as Sully really made Monsters Inc. incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:48 PM
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-Indecisiveness RIP perceivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:48 PM
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Gene Wilder that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:46 PM
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It was special treatment for women, he wouldn't have done it with a guy, but it wasn't your fault. Its not flattery, flattery is insincere. I like the picture of you, its not complicated. I have no motivation to flatter you, I don't care about your feelings, and you aren't someone I will ever meet, I'm just communicating that the picture looked good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 04:43 AM
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Should I have not asked to use it? You asking to use it is fine, that's just normal human courtesy. How he handled it isn't your responsibility, even if it was predictable. I will not use this example to talk about men, but the way you describe him he's turbulent more than assertive and there's nothing you can do to help a turbulent person be assertive. It takes weeks of intentional effort and work to change that. Some people say years, but I know that it only takes weeks. Whoa! No wonder he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 03:47 AM
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You do that for 28 days or more and you will find that without having to expend much will power you don't take much shit lying down. It will be easy and habitual to not accept it when other people try to bring you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 08:15 PM
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Just to be funny I think the core values are hit the gym and fuck bitches and everything else is just "tools in the toolbox" as people are happy to remind me if I ever want to dissect a possible tool and offer a better one. Sometimes I perceive a red as using a machete to slice an onion and I say "Here is a specialized knife to slice onions" and they're like "Nope, no thank you, keep your innovation away from me, I come from a long line of machete onion cutters and I don't need you comin' in wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:20 PM
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Where does it come from? My confidence, self value, and self worth comes from me saying to myself every morning when I wake up and every night before I go to sleep "I am that I am. I am enough. I am OK. Right now, I am complete." What is it based on? When I used to use negative feelings to motivate me and fuel my drive to succeed and achieve, it worked. But, as it worked, it also created stress and tension in my body which led to physical ailments and illness over steady years of constant tensio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:16 PM
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All the men who have had success by adhering to all aspects of TRP No man adheres to all aspects of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:03 PM
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I never saw the movie only read the book. Its an overrated book that is groundbreaking for pushing edge during its cultural time, but overall the story itself is a short story with a simple theme that is thus; Is good good devoid of freewill. That's it. That's the end. As far as relating to the horror the main character creates, very few females can relate to him and very many males can.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 05:33 AM
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We must be thinking of different stories. Sympathetic doesn't mean doing the right thing all the time, it means being relatable. There are relatable weaknesses and unrelatable weaknesses. Storytellers who make unrelatable weaknesses are poor storytellers. An unrelatable weakness might be someone who wants to sleep with his mom, but only because he likes having sex with girls with gold earrings on and his mom wears gold earrings. That is unrealistically unsympathetic and its poor storytelling to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:52 AM
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Humans relate to fictional characters exactly as they relate to real ones. Story's majesty is its ability to communicate not just the data, but the feeling. If a story does not get a listener emotionally invested, it is not the listener who failed to listen, but the story teller who failed to weave a compelling narrative. Authors who obfuscate the narrative with tortuous verbiage and incorrigibly defiant arcs that obliterate communication at the empathetic level are neither great authors nor gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 04:13 AM
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We might be arguing semantics here. What you are describing sounds very accurate to me. We do learn cues and habits of others and we are tipped off to familiar psychological dramas. I hadn't conflated that with empathy, though, which is the mirror neurons that makes us feel things because lots of people who lack empathy can also predict behavior from someone they've known and I don't believe empathy is predicting behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:06 AM
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This is a thread about single moms not homeless men I was staying on topic I didn't say anything about homeless men because OP didn't ask me about homeless men so I didn't want to answer a question they never asked. There's also an even larger amount being spent on the military industrial complex that doesn't even really help the brass or the boots I have a problem with that, too, but this wasn't a thread about the military industrial complex either. If you want to talk about homeless men in a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:59 PM
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I understand that you made a FUD comment, a sarcastic comment, another sarcastic comment, and then you said homeless men cost society more than single moms do. Homeless men could cost society x20 what single moms do and it wouldn't change why RP men don't like single moms. The two are unrelated issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:58 PM
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No, that's not what I said. I said you mention yourself as a plural group of 'we' instead of using 'I' statements and speaking for your own opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:56 PM
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Just a common trend. I see personally low income girls get with guys they're not really attracted to and entice them by sleeping with them and then withhold sex once the guy moves in and starts helping her with the bills and the daycare. I don't blame them, they're hurting to survive and they'll do whatever. Doesn't make them bad people, I doubt most of them are consciously intending to be a soul sucking succubus it just kinda turns out that way. It kinda goes back to female solipsism, they're f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:54 AM
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I don't recollect saying anything to the contrary. Not every omission is an implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 10:05 PM
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How am I implying men have no agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:56 PM
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I understand you are asking me if I have evidence to prove my experience. I have no evidence. I understand you asked, somewhat rhetorically, if a father is also responsible for a child and if so does the father have a variety of hypothetical choices he could make wherein she would not be a single mother? The short answer is, yes you are right. Now, I have a question for you. What is the point of any of your questions you just asked me? OP asked why RP men don't like single moms and I answered. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:55 PM
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Single moms are notorious for tricking hapless men into dead bedroom scenarios where the man sacrifices his life and his resources to care for her and her child she had while being in a sexually exciting rendezvous with a man she will pine for the rest of her life despite you doing all the heavy lifting for years and years. They're also irritating because they can't support their child and themselves, typically, without social welfare programs which of course eat the paycheck of the worker and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:14 PM
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I understand you don't think they are different, but they are statistically likely to be different. Even the example I gave occurs only in 1/16,000 births roughly speaking so even just hormonely speaking your chances of having hormonal behavioral differences between your male and female friends are greater than 99% so there is exactly, in this specific regards, a 0.06% chance that you are right at least as far as testosterone and estrogen goes. This is to say nothing of the physical makeup/wirin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:06 PM
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Cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 09:03 PM
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I understand you don't think that you could be closer friends with a woman than you could be with a guy. Hearing that, I wonder if you've raised the bar and pushed your edge to deepen your connection with your female friends and I wonder if you have observed the innate different responses that most cis, heteronormative men have when it comes to posture, tone of conversing, competition, eye contact, etc. That, or you may also have interacted predominately with men who have congenital hyperplasia …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:37 PM
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darkmoon09, it makes more sense if you've seen the movie, I guess I'm thinking post-transformation prince, just called him Beast because he's never given a name. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:32 PM
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Girls want the Beast in the streets and Gaston in the sheets but it very rarely pans out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:05 PM
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Being on a date isn't implied consent for sex unless that's pretty explicitly agreed on beforehand of course that would make it explicit consent. I believe if its "in no way or form whatsoever would I ever find the prospect of sex attractive with this man" that's a great time to politely end the date. I mean, there's no potential for sexual intimacy there and no romantic relationship is going to be fulfilling without that key component. Edit: A moment of notable silence is in order for our tradc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 08:02 PM
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This isn't a question for red pill you're not really asking coherent question so much as you are ranting and venting and you are angry. Still, I will try to answer the questions you did ask. how do you fill the massive fucking void in your heart? I dump money into it. Honestly, is the idea of RP to just discard any and all positive and compassionate traits a human could have to become ultra dominant? Your idea of positive and compassionate and my idea might be different if that is what you belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:49 PM
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empathy is projection. Our mirror neurons light up to try to mimick what we perceive someone is feeling and in the process our intuition wrongfully substitutes the "why" of the feeling, even if it was an accurate mirror, that we don't even realize we are assuming they are feeling for similar reasons as us when in fact it could be quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:47 PM
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James and Jongeward
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:45 PM
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What I mean by codependency is that, a relationship where you put your partner's needs ahead of yours, because that makes you feel good. Because its a common game people play to get love. Ensuring love by being helpful. At its best, this giving is altruistic and generous. As a defensive gesture, giving is geared to getting something in return. Its not totally bad, but its something that can definitely be grown out of if you want to deepen the relationship with yourself and with your partner. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:44 PM
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Born to Win is the one I am reading right now and so far of all of them its number one in terms of usefulness, accurate data, and the book even does like I do which is use plain everyday language to break down cited psych terms etc. because its designed to be read by the lay man. Born to Win is all about what you are looking for. If you do the exercises in the book, you will find your gender neutral equivalent to moving from victim to creator, from fragmented to whole, from facade to authenticit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:40 PM
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I am curious: why do so many BPers seem to lack any self awareness or perspective? Keyword here is "seems". It seems that way to you, so only you can answer why it seems that way to you. And, you mentioned one post and an opinion that grrrl power views are offensive to their more moderate peers. Peer is pluralized, but here I only see your post. This seems more to be an issue you personally hold than any collective of "well adjusted liberal individuals".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:38 PM
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"So I have a coworker" Mistake number one. "Here's the thing she tells all of my coworkers..." Oh, boy. You're a jerk in the classic sense. You were thinking with your little brain and not the big beautiful brain in your head. May this be a valuable lesson to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:34 PM
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I think RP as whole is misinformed, sexist, and dumb in general. You oughtn't to lead with that sentence unless your intention was to close off communication and get a bunch of defensive people responding to you. Women have more emotional experience in the brain than men. "Male brains utilize nearly seven times more gray matter for activity while female brains utilize nearly ten times more white matter. What does this mean?" https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:28 PM
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I wouldn't say she is a good or bad person. I would say she sounds typical, but that is neither good nor bad to me. No, she is not justified to blame her rejection on society. She sees things through the lenses of race, but it might not be because of her race that he doesn't want to girlfriend her. "Might" is an understatement here. The nuance in the article suggests that she wanted more from sex than sex without communicating that. Lots of women (and men) do that. I don't think its hypocritical…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 03:23 PM
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The single most important thing I would like women to understand about men is that aggression and risk taking aren't bad things that need to be suppressed and they aren't defective things that have no place in modern society. Men benefit from opportunities to proactively sublimate and channel their aggression and competitiveness into positive results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 04:30 PM
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Leadership does comprise of certain skills, but not everyone has the natural inclination/talents to be a good leader. The new model for more profit is just to find what someone does best and pay them good money for it instead of the outdated model of climbing up the ladder until you become The Peter Principle incarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 07:58 PM
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you can be a social misanthrope
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 06:38 PM
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That makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:42 PM
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I see where you're going with this. This is the toss up of the tennis ball, the real serve is to then relate the condition of the man having no idea she's under duress or coercion to real life situations where a man has sex he thinks is consensual where she is under the impression she is under duress and is that rape, you will ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:41 PM
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misandrist for masogynist I meant lol. Yeah misanthropy is a better word than cynic, good call.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:37 PM
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I like your outlook on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:29 PM
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Men have a more difficult time forming friendships with other men than women do with other women. Women more typically than men have a community/connection/support to fall back on after a breakup. A man finds himself utterly alone because he only spent time at his job and with his wife. Ironically, the time the man spent working usually provided the means and the free time for the wife to have a community she could fall back on after she sleeps with his best friend. The world is many things, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:27 PM
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In a fools' game every participant is a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:26 PM
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I've seen a lot of people incompetently try to push those skills without having those skills because they want to make money but not bad enough to actually take the necessary discipline and time out of their busy schedules that it takes to cultivate an appreciative mindset. Companies like that are better just eating the higher costs of an entitled mindset and not bothering with it. I like the way you describe getting a job to work up to retirement. I wish I'd been born in the fifties type of con…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:25 PM
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I think that's healthy. I mean, I don't know, and its all so very subjective. In the sense I have locks on my door, locks on my car, locks on my bike, and keep close care of my wallet, I also distrust humans. I only extend trust when I know I can have my back if the person ended up not being trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:23 PM
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According to Gallup's book First Break All the Rules on what makes a company profitable in particular focus on managers/bosses, bosses who appreciate their employees for doing their job increase profits assuming the rest of the criteria of being an effective manager is in place, of course. Appreciation literally makes money, we don't live in a world where you have to choose EITHER money OR appreciation, you can actually get both simultaneously without one costing the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:18 PM
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We can agree on one thing, you are reactive and definitely not proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:17 PM
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Probably on a fast track to suicide due to unrequited oneitis and a general feeling of helplessness and despair. Edit: Of course I found TRPtm years after that, but the general principle of people being dispensable and having core differences between the sexes I learned on my own is of great value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:13 PM
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But you wont do that except in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:12 PM
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misandrist is the word you are searching for. Edit: distrustful of all things generally and equally without a dislike for one in particular would probably fall around more the word of being a cynic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:11 PM
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I have a similar view to yours where I agree with you that to appreciate one thing I'd have to appreciate an awful lot of things. I do appreciate an awful lot of people. I appreciate the people who installed the wires and I appreciate the people who designed the volt loads in the panel and I appreciate the person or machine who put together the components to install it in the factory and I appreciate the person who delivered them to a zip code. I appreciate the architecht who designed the house …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:11 PM
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I have no pity for Tesla, he was a tall 6' 6" man who was the life of parties and plenty of women would have loved it, he was not incel. I'm reading about him right now in a book I got. He said sex is compatible with artists because the feelings and experiences help artists, but he said it had no use for a scientist trying to create new innovation. That's right, Tesla wanted to give us all free energy so bad he didn't want to distract himself with unscientific lays. He had a compulsive and addic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 03:01 PM
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I don't know if it was much better in the past, but I agree right now it is difficult for a lot of you introverted men to find circumstances where you can display how you're attractive to a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:56 PM
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True dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:54 PM
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I don't, I'm not at war, I don't believe anyone is at war with me beyond a few influential outliers who don't affect me personally. I believe others believe it is a war.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:53 PM
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I know that. I appreciate women. The illusion doesn't work for me, but it creates a lot of positive motivation for other people to mobilize themselves to self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:51 PM
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That sounds cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 12:21 AM
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"In war, truth is the first casualty." - Aeschylus
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 11:31 PM
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That sounds so intimate and mellow. blimington, is that eye sexy/conducive to sexy times? Last one, and I do want to take your word for it but I'm double checking, are you sure its him saying you are the best thing in his world without saying it, or is that just what you imagine it to be his look meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:53 PM
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What is it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:42 PM
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So just any strong feeling not a particular strong feeling. I didn't ask because I don't know the definition, I just know that some people use passion as a figurative term for infatuation or something close to it that's why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:10 PM
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That's really cool, I never heard of the four R's before. What is restoration all about? I know it sounds self explanatory, but I am curious if it resets the cycle or if it is the end of a cycle that starts something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:05 PM
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Evolution takes millions of years and in a relatively few thousand we have drastically altered our living circumstances from the living circumstances we have evolved to live with. Evolution hasn't caught up to society and it wont in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 10:04 PM
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Appreciation/Gratitude is a core ingredient for life satisfaction no matter the relationship, job, etc. people who feel entitled to things are far less productive and effective than grateful ones. Fine thoughts, thank you for your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:34 PM
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If we view each individual as unconsciously trying to force his or her individual genetic pattern forward into future generations View it, instead, as genetics trying to force their individual human to pass the genetics on to the future. Genetics create the incentive to have children, lust, desire and dreams and playing of children (for women) at an early age. Other things, wanting a bond, thinking about it, having crazy mom bonding response to help the child live. Now, genetics' incentives and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:20 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:16 PM
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Agreed. If TRP increased the veracity of information it would decrease the quality of the individual self improvement which would defeat their own purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:15 PM
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Once the goal becomes the bottom line, the expected, the routine, it seems easily taken for granted and then we start looking for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:00 PM
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Do you believe Mr Wikipedia?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:59 PM
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What does passion mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:59 PM
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What about having kids kills romance? Not saying it doesn't or does, just curious how you see it personally. Follow up, I always thought cohabitation begins the end of romance in a relationship even before kids happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:59 PM
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What do you think? Should one care?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:56 PM
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I think if by romance we mean gift giving and the gifts are assumed to be given without expectation/resentment then I think romance in this form would strengthen a marital relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:43 PM
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Let's say we're talking about the noun. Marriage seems to remove the excitement and mystery. In this sense, I agree its not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:41 PM
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Some meth heads are alphas in the sense they have strong, dominant qualities, some are not. They are certainly not effective role models as addiction is ineffective. Attraction really has nothing to do with qualities you or I judge as "bad" or "good". You can be a cool guy alpha like the way you describe yourself as confident in approaching women while still respecting them, or you can be a shit head or a meth head, but if you have raw attractive qualities you have those and then it just depends…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:35 PM
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How does romance contribute toward a good marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:24 PM
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Yes there are. Lookin' at you, Oberyn Martell. May The Old Gods and The New bless that Red Viper.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:19 PM
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Depends on the connotation of the word 'shy' which I admit is negative. If you substitute the word 'shy' for 'introvert' than it could be attractive. Introverts become their most attractive when they are confident and confidence is not an extrovert exclusive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:12 PM
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The same could be said of us reds. There's no way to factually backup either claim. Edit: over a large aggregate of demographic, individuals can back it up sometimes, but there's no way to study the whole group yet as we both are largely anonymous contributers using a pseudonym to interact with each other on the subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:11 PM
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Jon Snow, not John Snow, get it right. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:10 PM
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I confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:08 PM
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I don't think having protection to your body under law and being responsible for your own well being and protection are mutually exclusive concepts. A woman who doesn't resist at all and doesn't say "no" shouldn't be considered raped by a hapless, dumb buck if he also is ill prepared or educated on sex and affirmative consent I don't think he should go through the rest of his life with "sex offender" status, most of those bros probably had no intention of taking someone else's sex against their …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 06:12 PM
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Short answer; Depends on the military dictator. Long answer, every dictator engages in a dangerous game. There is a great myth called the Sword of Damocles about the daily existence of a tyrant. Alexander the Great was accused of many things, but being beta was not one of them. Attila the Hun could hardly be described as beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 06:04 PM
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Brian Little mentioned the study in the Ted Talk "Who are you really" I don't know where he got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:06 AM
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So its legal to have sex with woman who says no do not have sex with me in California or PA as long as she doesn't force you to use force? "the act of intercourse is then committed without her consent if: She communicated through words or acts to the defendant that she no longer consented to the act of intercourse; A reasonable person would have understood that her words or acts expressed her lack if consent; AND The defendant forcibly continued the act of intercourse despite her objection." htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 02:17 AM
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I wasn't privy to the study, I don't know if it covered all sexual identities or just heteronormative ones. You made me curious! Let's see. I couldn't find any inclusive study off the front page of Google, it all deals with heteronormative sexual behavior. Let me know if you find anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 02:12 AM
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Expound on that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:57 PM
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It exists, I've had it, I've cured it, I help others through the process. PTSD exists its not a made up thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:46 PM
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Humans are at their happiest when the means to survival aren't threatened and they have a circle of friends and an intimate partner. These three things create more happiness than fame, fortune, and prestige or other yard sticks of accomplishment. In fact, when people have those things, its typically a vehicle to try to get the connection and respect from people and ourselves that we think will make us feel content with life. A cool lifehack is that you can get self respect and the respect of oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 07:11 PM
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Statistical anomalies are of value for me to discuss. I don't know about the 15% you're talking about, are you leading up to a punchline to save me 15% or more on my car insurance or my money back?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 06:13 PM
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Based on this post, you are an introvert. I am trying to decipher what you are getting at. If I am reading this correctly, are you saying we are more alike than we are different and we become closed minded to view points other than our own and we also think the other party is out to get us?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 05:03 PM
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When you said that it shouldn't be rape unless someone is individually and personally prepared and capable of defending their boundary, I mistakenly inferred that you wanted to change the definition of rape and remove certain protections under the law that people have to their body and their property to amend it where its only rape if they know how and are capable of fighting back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 04:51 PM
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Ok, I acknowledge that you don't want to legalize rape. I just want to also emphasize our mutual understanding of common law. Under US law everyone has a right to their property and body whether or not they are willing, capable, or prepared to defend it personally. Like it or not, we live in a police state where laws exist to help enable the weak to assert boundaries over their private possessions and private parts against the strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 04:49 PM
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I live in a country where people have ownership over their person and property. I guess it would be different if you lived in a country where people didn't have a legal right to their body then yeah you could risk crossing a boundary hoping its a shit test. Unfortunately, the law is a cruel mistress where I live in the US, and she judges trespassers guilty regardless of the minimal or maximum resistance put up by their victims. Do you live in the USA? Or, if you don't, are you aware that in Amer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 04:41 PM
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I don't know about this story in particular and I don't want to, I'll speak for a moment about rape in general. Sometimes a woman freezes up (her body tells her she can't run or fight so everything locks down). Could be abused in childhood to have her brain programmed like this, who knows? While being miserable and traumatized and having her body and boundaries violated, she can still orgasm, here nerve endings are running as usual. What made it rape is she didn't want that orgasm from those unw…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:59 PM
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I agree, anything on stage where you perform for people is great practice for charisma. I also agree that its understanding what you're offering someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:51 PM
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That's another good way, yes, being an improv comedian, even if you bomb the first couple times, will give good practice for charisma we get better at what we do (typically).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:21 PM
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Statistically, extraverted women have the most frequent sex of any group of men or women and that isn't going to change. No revenge is going to happen. Revenge is a fools' gambit to give some kind of hope of poetic justice or comeuppance. Life isn't a children's book.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:21 PM
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One practical way is to take a sales job and you'll get a lot of practice and a bit of training.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:12 PM
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No, it is not. I often get asked if I am being sarcastic or not because I am descriptive in my appreciation of things and people usually aren't positive and descriptive unless they are trying to wound someone else- which I believe is detrimental. Appreciation and gratitude is so good for healthy brain functioning and its a good way to encourage things I'd like to see more of so I wanted to go out of my way to appreciate you and your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:40 AM
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Quit reinforcing the belief that you are a low number. Add points to your numbers by adopting charisma and style. Master a hobby also helps, especially if its a performance art like dance, music, or acting. Women want to be with whoever is taking center stage. http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/stylewatch/blog/160502/prince-purple-600x800.jpg Here is a picture of an avant garde alpha male for inspiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:33 PM
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The short answer is that humans mock each other to establish a pecking order. If you mock someone you are gaining status by sending out a clear signal of "I'm better than you/this thing" I'm mocking. Now, with status coming from all kinds of places like fame, money, artistry, being in great shape, charisma... People who have one form of status will generally mock someone who has gained another form of status to attempt to raise themselves on the social pecking order. People mock incels so as to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:28 PM
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I'm glad you bring in self respect and boundaries to the discussion. I think your post is concise, easily understandable, and shows you have mastery over the basic principles of boundaries of the self that I read in a book literally titled Boundaries (where you end and I begin). Thank you for bringing your wisdom to the conversation of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:26 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:24 PM
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seduction places an emphasis on social engineering and self improvement is one of the tools in their box for that. Red pill places an emphasis on self improvement and social engineering is one of the tools in their box for that. In other words, they have different top priorities and that alone creates a huge difference in the flavor and subject matter of posts and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:23 PM
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Tough love, shaming, harsh truths, cold realities are all red flag words that signify ineffective emotional intelligence skills and are used to justify active destructive relating patterns so as the relater can avoid taking responsibility for their inability to manage their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 09:21 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/happily-ever-after/372573/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:00 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/happily-ever-after/372573/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:59 PM
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If you have habits of active construction, LTRs are easy mode. TRP does not endorse active construction as it is not a good strategy for casual sex. To me this is just a coping mechanism and an easy out for explaining away laziness and not recognising where your LTR skill set sucked. This is not to absolve the woman of her fuckups but I am only address the dudes here. I don't think its all just a coping mechanism. I think in many of these cases, men were generous and they married entitled bitche…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:28 AM
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The friend zone is just, "I am not sexually interested in you, but I don't want to hurt your feelings." She doesn't want to tromp on you, or be the cause of a lowered sense of self worth etc. and mostly she just doesn't want to hassle with any emotions that come along with you getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:23 AM
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Where's the streetwise Hercules?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:13 PM
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If you stay aware of the emotion, you can manage your behavior. If you lose self awareness of the emotion, the emotion just about makes choices for you. Over time, being aware and choosing deliberately will lessen the strength of that impulse and it gets easier and easier; Like a brain muscle.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/16 01:38 AM
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Life isn't an RPG game where everything is fair and balanced. Men who showed signs of physical health often had good mental health. Active bodies make smart brains. Aside from the risks of mild concussive effects of contact sports, physically strong people were mentally strong. Also men and women pass their genes on, not just men. Even if the idiot Chad was true (its not) women would still be passing their genes down along with men. In a weird way, over generational gaps, certain genes got to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 01:20 AM
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So far my strategy seems to be working. I share, and follow up with don't worry, I got a handle on it, just sharing because if you thought I looked sad its because I am feeling a sadness. Then I handle it, without her help, although she'll offer validation and kind words about things she sees positively. I thank her, it does feel good to hear a compliment. So far loyalty and tingles are at an all time high. I think I may have cracked the Gordian knot. The strategy of communication coupled with e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 01:28 AM
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Wow. Being told what to do =/= rape. Being told to have sex they don't want to have is rapey. You literally just said the guys nade their girl do it when the girl didn't want to now you're back pedalling and saying they do want it. Are gou lying through your teeth or accidentally contradicting your own statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 11:10 PM
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Most of those are weak men trying to attract a high value partner by assuring them they are into being cucked. There are no real people on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 11:08 PM
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Also coercing a girl to have sex with someone she doesn't want to is very rapey. Sounds like a terrible situation for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 11:04 PM
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Very small minority with an oddly self deprecating fetish. Sure, it exists, but super uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 11:03 PM
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I don't believe a dominant male asks his girl to sleep with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 10:52 PM
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Thanks. When I hear people are OK with it, they usually wish they weren't so meek to inspire so little respect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 10:52 PM
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Let other people sex his girl. Poor bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 09:36 PM
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Poor bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 07:01 PM
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I don't watch my back, that's what I mean. That's the risk I take that makes it different than a business. My emotional wants are to be vulnerable and share my feelings with my partner and that carries risk, but I want to let my guard down with my partner and trust she has my back. So far its working, but only time will tell. I learned the rules of the game so that I could break them, but time will be the judge if I'm taking a winning or a losing risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:23 PM
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Your wife was untrustworthy and she betrayed your trust. She repaid your devotion with treachery. If I were in your in your shoes, I would be angry to say the least. There is no society, no social contract, no religion that can restrain someone's regard or their intent, only hamper their actions. With trust, I no longer trust anyone but myself as opposed to what I shared in the past. Now, I trust me that I will only extend trust that, if broken, I can bounce back from. Having overcome depression…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:24 AM
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Hijack the group, speak your mind, or just leave. To prove to yourself no longer need their approval, behave in a way you normally don't to risk their disapproval. This is how I changed the old dynamics. It went well for me, I got lots of admiration and assumed leadership even in conversation.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/16 01:04 AM
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He's not though. If you encourage action you are definitely in the minority
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 09:32 PM
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I can overthink things without a free coupon code, thanks anyways though. Damn, I feel so frustrated with things right now, but I thought you were cute and I had to approach you. Call me crazy, but I generally don't open up with my issues in the first line out of my mouth. That's like a salesmen saying, "this car has a lot of problems but" no matter how good the car is, I just gave a negative impression I will now have to overcome. Self defeating.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 08:48 PM
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Thank you, All I meant is that you assumed this girl had certain traits that she did not and to be mindful of perception versus reality moving forward which is what 3rd person POV helps me with in a readily accessible practical technique for doing that. Getting hooked is only human, be aware of your bias and it wont blind side you. If you get hooked and you stay aware you can manage your behavior while you pusue your goal of not getting hooked in the first place. Don't let your emotions control …
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 08:36 PM
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Very good. And don't worry about the thoughts straying. You are navigating your relationships with active observation and intent instead of passive autopilot and this is a huge win for you even if this gambit fails so whatever happens don't give up and keep trying.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 08:19 PM
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You approached the relationship wanting more from her than she wanted from you. She had the ability to say no to you and you didn't. She straight up told you to your face she is fucking other men. You offered commitment without her even knowing or asking and certainly without getting anything in return. You gave away your power and your pride to her and for nothing. Be ashamed. Be angry. You did this. You can't fix it with her, but you can avoid this in the future. First off, assume the worst an…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 08:14 PM
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The post was a bit confusing on that whole nature v. nurture bit, but let me be the first to congratulate you on recognizing ulterior motives and trying out a new way to communicate that is self empowering.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 06:35 PM
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If you're improving yourself, you're inherently outside your comfort zone, and that is inherently uncomfortable. I wish there was an automod that posted this everytime someone made a garbino post about neobuddhism to the exclusion of lifting weights and getting laid.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 06:14 PM
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We become the mean of our habitual company. It is very hard to change a group or an individual. Winners tend to hang out with other winners. If you are hanging out with losers there is a good chance you are one. Easiest thing is to start winning and make new friends. The easiest way to do this so you have good company is find a man you respect with qualities and habits you wish to emulate and tell him this and ask if you can pick his brain from time to time. Most men are honoured to share their …
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 06:07 PM
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but recognize that your primary identification is your “soul” or “awareness” or whatever you want to call it. That’s who you actually are, and following its desires will lead you to true happiness. I missed this info in the sidebar. I won't join your crusade, I'd rather get laid.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 04:50 PM
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Gotchya. Like it turns you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:24 PM
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And angry about anyone who challenges their self identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:25 AM
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So what would it look like if you loved someone without self delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:24 AM
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The quickest, dirtiest way is to accept others' judgment and don't waste time trying to control it. Observe your own self judging thoughts and don't tolerate them. Actively choose the thoughts you want. Proactively choose not to give a fuck. Hell, get angry at the people who taught you to feel so bad about yourself. Do what it takes. When people judge you, you are winning. When people pity you, you are losing.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 10:25 PM
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What do tou want to hear? That women are heartless bitches who have no capacity for empathy? Why the fuck do you care about getting an LTR with a monster if all you see are monsters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 09:53 PM
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What do you object to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 09:40 PM
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Differing degrees, males have it more difficult than females. Its extrinsic versus intrinsic value. Instead of complaining that life isn't fair (it isnt) male incels have to develop extrinsic qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 09:40 PM
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touches brofist to engage in jolly cooperation!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 07:16 PM
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The idea is that if she proactively looks for sex she'll get it. Same with male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 07:12 PM
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Have you been both genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 07:05 PM
3

This reply sums it up nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 07:04 PM
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Hahaha, that's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 06:45 PM
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that the girls out there want for them to not even exist. That attitude is a bit untrue and exxagerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 06:45 PM
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Considering I have been in love and I ask the questions that is not true. I ask the questions to escape my own solipsism and see if your experience is different than mine. I have been in love and betrayed, cheated on, libelled, taken for all I was worth. Dual because my best friend and my girlfriend slept with each other. My first love the love of my life expected me to act like everything is ok while I am alone and she is sleeping with a hot friend of mine after the breakup. I let myself get sq…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 06:43 PM
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I am pleased as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:29 AM
1

What does ftfy mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:12 AM
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Crooked. I have a crooked face and a crooked smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:12 AM
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It says Islamic and Islamists want chaste women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:11 AM
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Men take action. Children complain. Women want to date a man, not a child. Stop asking for people's pity and start asking for their admiration. Once you are proud of yourself, other people will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:00 AM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:59 AM
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My face lacks symmetry, never stopped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:57 AM
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If the only option you see are jokes, transgender, and suicide I'd say the first thing you need to do is expand your horizons and start learning how to think divergently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:55 AM
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Being a chad is easy. Straighten your posture. That's really all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:53 AM
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Prostitution will do very little to undermine rape. I wouldn't mind it being legal, but having the government subsidize it would be as silly as the government paying for my alcohol. Sexxed and drunk are luxuries, food and water are necessities. Saying sex is a necessity is silly. Nikola Tesla survived just fine without it. Back to the rape. Rape isn't about sex. Date rape might be. Rape and especially child molestation and rape is about power. Plenty of rapists, like Ted Bundy, could EASILY get …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:44 AM
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Elliot Rodgers did not shoot people up because he was an incel anymore than the Columbine shooters did it because they played the game Doom. Elliot Rodgers had problems, he was a statistical outlier that represented less than 0.01% of a demographic. I think we should judge a demographic by the 99.99% to get a more accurate reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:38 AM
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OK if the reason is that its needed to sustain the species, are you suggesting hiring hookers to bear your children? Because that would very drastically change the tone of the conversation that you set in the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:36 AM
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Sexual wealth needs to redistributed in society. No. You will die of hunger. You will not die of being horny. The two needs are not analogous, mate. Frankly, I think you just don't like social welfare programs so you are positing sex as a need. You don't need sex to survive, though. Some might need it to be happy, but it will never be analogous to a WIC check. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:34 AM
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Forty five minutes, like a mean glower or just an intense eye contact or what haha I have no idea what you mean. If you were unaware of it, I have a hard time believing you were mean about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:22 AM
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What did it take for you to realize that the love of your life no longer had feelings for you? Why are you willing to be squeezed when you show that you love someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 01:21 AM
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How much is too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 12:52 AM
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Not sure, yet. I would have to lurk more before I admitted something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 11:17 PM
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Don't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:37 PM
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Words mean things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:17 PM
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I feel like the dynamic would be terribly off and the man would most likely get annoyed. Feel or you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:05 PM
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Thank you, yeah there is that subset, usually children ofba dysfunctional dad trying to find and "fix" someone who reminds her of her dad and the inverse is true of some subset of men as well and that's a whole nother animal. But yeah raw "maleness" that's a good way to put it, ty. Masculinity is associated with bad boys because bad boys are overtly aggressive, and confused people who don't understand the correlation of masculinity and attraction wrongly infer its his bad boy bad attitude that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:44 PM
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I did read it. I'll give the message a chance, but his experience wasn't indicative with nerd culture and the OP experience wasn't indicative of RP. It was like a strawman standing on the shoulders of another strawmen the first being that nerd culture is as described by the article and the second that TRP is nerd culture neither of which I believe as true unless I believe the stereotype that all males unsuccessful sexually are nerds which I do not believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:40 PM
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Hehe, its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:30 PM
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How easy it is for them to get pizza should be a hint :/ Haha, love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:11 PM
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Memes the hallmark of nerdom...... Lol. No, the Black Lotus is the hallmark of nerdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:55 PM
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Using the daily beast as a source against men is like using the Bible as a source against homosexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:51 PM
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Girls make fun of me for having nerdy interests, but its a neg 99% of the time. Girls like guys with nerd interests if the guy is masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:50 PM
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Its not quite the same feeling of egoism as when women are crowding the security around your stage desperate to be the one of the ones you fuck after the sbow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:48 PM
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The bare minimum of sex... If sex is the minimum for male to female interaction, what is the maximum?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:45 PM
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Its your solipsism. You don't have a frame of reference for others' experience, but many people have different experiences. Suggesting staying a virgin is a bit oneitisy, not judging its your life. For my own frame of reference, I would consider myself quite unfortunate if I was still attached to my first or if things had worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:33 PM
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Only if the emotions she can manipulate have any sort of power over me. As long as I can accurately identify what I feel and choose to manage my behavior, the emotions don't have power over me and anyone inciting them have no power over me except what I give it. I'm not giving anyone a rook. Hell, I'm not even giving them a pawn. No one gets to decide my decisions except for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:56 PM
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You remind me of the protagonist in Leadership and Self Deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:47 PM
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I can. I'm not a masochist. I don't enjoy the pain, but I expose myself to it because risking emotional connection is worth failing for and feeling pain. I'd rather fail at emotionally connecting than succeed in a relationship where I have my guard up all the time. The reason it hurts is because it feels good. When I close myself off to getting hurt, I close myself off to feeling good. Oxytocin is a helluva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:43 PM
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The trick isn't not getting hurt, the trick is healing fast after an emotional hurt. My heart is Deadpool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:41 PM
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That's really romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:38 PM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:37 PM
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Aggression and impulsiveness are attractive though, sexually. Do you mean unattractive as a euphemism for mentally deciding against wanting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:35 PM
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Agreed. Aggression isn't bad, it just gets a bad rap, most guys I know could use some aggression its been so conditioned out of them they have a hard time asserting themselves which is unsexy and causes a lot of problems. I guess plenty is a generous word I used considering those guys are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:31 PM
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Women aren't looking for "bad" men so to speak, just strong/masculine ones. Someone with some push and shove. Someone who would fight another animal if it tried to take the food off his plate. Someone aggressive and/or assertive. In society, there are a lot of guys who are pussies, no offense. The guys who stand out and have a reputation for being "bad boys" often give off the most signals of strength and assertion. There are plenty of goody two shoes guys who are strong and assertive and, well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:56 PM
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Never skip leg day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 02:21 AM
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Its your judgment and thought that women don't approach bcause they don't value it. You remind me of the song from My Fair Lady, "Why Can't a Woman Be More Like a Man?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 12:40 AM
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Is biology. The end. Biology is sexual attraction. Its non negotiable. The same thing that attracted women in the jungle are the same traits that attract them in the urban jungle. To get people to rewire their biology you'd have an easier time of it than shouting at the wind and commanding it to stop. Its not entirely out of a self replicating habit. We continue the habit because it works. I don't care about being fair, I care about being successful. Its really not about value its about strength…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:37 PM
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You're projecting. You actively pursue things you value. If something you valued kept coming to you, why bother pursuing it? If I wanted a cheeseburger and someone kept delivering it to my door, why the fuck would I refuse that burger because I "valued it too much too accept it" and go out seeking a cheeseburger? That's insane. Assuming the cheeseburgers were identical. Or, to fit the r4r analogy better, the one delivered to my door was artisan made and the one waiting for me in town was a stale…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 11:03 PM
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You believe that not actively pursuing men means they don't value men? You believe if they valued men more they would actively pursue them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 10:33 PM
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Its active and passive role. A man taking the passive role is not gonna get women commenting on him who also want to take the passive role. Has literally nothing to do with valuing, a woman who wants to be passive would gain nothing from attracting the attention of a passive man. Sexual attraction is non nogotiable. They have no desire or need to pursue a passive man when what they want is a man taking the active role and there are plenty of men who are masculine who will do that. Feminine men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:33 PM
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( Okay, I'm lying. I wouldn't expect it knowing how undervalued men are by women ) Not sure how you extrapolated the selectors not valuing the selectees. There is certainly a case to be made that today's women under value men, but I don't think this lends credence. If they didn't value the attention, they wouldn't make posts asking for it. The heteronormative male pursues while the heteronormative female is pursued. I don't think that in and of itself standing alone shows under value of a pursue…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 08:10 PM
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They have this idea looking at or check considering the possibility of failure or letting go of pedestals and oneitis is "wrong" and you don't love them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 06:18 PM
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I think the inexperienced may accidentally try to smash through LMR and accidentally or purposely date rape someone. I think that would be like handing a sword to many people who do not know how to wield one without other prerequisite training in social and sexual awareness. I think sex ed should place a greater emphasis on avoiding fatal mistakes than it does focus on arming people for success. I think establishing safe perimeters is better for a man in the long run. You can recover more easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 09:43 AM
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When someone goes into marriage, the last thing on their mind is divorce court. Speaking of averages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 09:01 AM
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No. Statistically speaking whoever inherited this system or maybe the OG enlightened rulers would become despots very fast and would be overthrown.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:56 AM
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Not during this generation. There is too much strong public sentiment against men and the social popular narrative is that men are privileged. Returning justice to divorce court would be perceived as adding more privilege to male privilege as society calls it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:53 AM
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Leftists hate this one sumple trick men use to avoid divorce court.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:52 AM
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You're doing God's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:51 AM
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Japan cultural suicide and normative suicide of I'm so hopeless/isolated/depressed suicide are two different dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:49 AM
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Why should sodomy be illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 02:37 AM
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"Chadliest of chads" haha, stealng that phrase for later. Agreed about nice boobs or nice tits. We laugh about it as a joke specifically because its such a bad opener for 98% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 01:37 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:29 PM
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Fite me irl fagit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 10:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 09:21 PM
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No. They're dscended from Judaism and they don't even know about the Talmud. People follow a Christ, but they don't keep the passover. No, this is not false. They made a new religion off of partial Jewish texts and they were not taught how the rabbis read those texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 09:21 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 05:06 PM
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I am not religious or a Christian, but Creationism didn't happen until Protestantism. There are numerous passages in the Bible that are accepted as time is relative to their God and also that there are parables and metaphors. People who came up with Creationism weren't taught how to read scripture texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 04:46 PM
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Very interesting, I knew about Georges Lemaitre, but not all the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 04:44 PM
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As a Viking, I am morally obligated to pillage this sect of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 04:42 PM
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Creationism isn't Biblical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 04:40 PM
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I think the difference is that in marketing, its expected that we're dealing with statistics. We can point to a chart and say, "X amount of cans distributed, Y amount were bought by Canadians." When I say, "Canadians sure like their Coca Cola." the implicit subtext is that I mean "most people in Canada" or just "a noticeably large pool of Canadians." If someone asked me if I meant all Canadians and if I'd bet my life against a large sum of money to pull a Canadian at random, offer a coke to them…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:52 PM
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They seek nothing more than the genocide of incels, and subs like /r/niceguys and the BluePiller are specifically devoted to this task. No. I couldn't find the specifics about killing anyone in the sidebar, threads, about section, etc. So, you are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:22 PM
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Chaos isn't a pit. Enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:17 PM
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A Lannister always pays his debts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 08:27 PM
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Actually, that's a common misconception. Most golden rules are phrased with abstaining from treating others how you wouldn't like. That would be "don't be a cunt" Jesus phrased it as an active "actively do non cunty nice things" You might want to switch teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 08:21 PM
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http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/09/why-girls-get-better-grades-than-boys-do/380318/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 04:57 PM
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In what universe do all classes give boys cookies to sit and focus and in what ways do the stimulant effects of cookies help people focus?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 01:55 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:51 AM
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"Crispy" is slang for "sharply/smartly dressed".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 06:01 PM
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Teams competing against other teams is a good compromise. That's the skill you need to compete at the highest levels of business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:25 PM
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Savage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 03:42 PM
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It doesn't, no
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 03:32 PM
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Segregation means you are still subjecting some children to an environment that doesn't work for them. Right now almost all boys are suffering. Segregating would have its drawbacks, but there would be less drawbacks than the current system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 08:15 AM
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The second picture also has better hair, better lighting, the eyes and eyebrows and underneath the eyes either had surgery as well, or there's some serious manscara or photoshop. I mean, if that guy did with all his hair, beard, eyes, lighting, eye brows, etc. the chin would still help for sure he looks more attractive, but everything (not just the surgery) is waaay crispier and well groomed in the second picture so its hard for me to gauge how many points the chin happened and some other tweaki…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 06:03 AM
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3cryptic5me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:50 PM
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Yes and no. One on one, starting and stopping when you are done, having specialized attention is always better. It goes without saying most girls and boys will still have different styles of learning. Not every parent has time, expertise, etc. To homeschool. The public school system has lots of room for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:46 PM
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That's one way to look at it. I'm not as optimistic as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:44 PM
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I don't know about that. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:42 PM
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What's a practical step though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 09:10 PM
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The main problems I see in education aren't really gender-specific http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-gap-boys-lagging/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 09:10 PM
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There is a such a thing as test anxiety which is actually performance anxiety which a lot of otherwise capable adults have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 09:07 PM
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Currently, many classroom environments are geared towards female learning styles. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:30 PM
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Word, not a strawman then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:28 PM
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I didn't say cooperation isn't important, get that strawman off of my lawn. Gallup has found that people are more successful when they are allowed to capitalize on their strengths instead of working on their weakness. When the whole system is skewed in favor of cooperation, boys have to work extra hard to suppress their natural competitiveness and girls thrive in this environment because they are more naturally cooperative. It plays to girls' strengths and boys' weaknesses. Girls should be given…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:06 PM
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I like your solution. Edit: having technical difficulties with flair, trying to get it to stay red, it keeps reverting to gray. it has a mind of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:46 PM
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Its not solely alt-right concerns. Mainstream media articles exist that acknowledge this gap. Here's one: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/girls-do-better-boys-school-all-ages-subjects-study-finds-n92531 Stop making boys sit still in class. Stop making boys do cooperative group projects. Let them compete, let them rough house. Stop grading boys based on obedience and behavior, start grading them on mastery of the subject. Lots of boys more than girls don't want to do the homework. Their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:43 PM
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Shocked and stunned is a freeze survival reaction rather than fight or flight. When we feel shocked, it is difficult to feel what emotion is underneath the shock. Our body takes care of us when it feels it can do nothing but "shutting down". It serves us well because, like in your case, you recognize something went wrong and you want to fix it so it doesn't happen in the future. You are also aware that you are in shock and can label it. "I am in shock". This is a very superior emotionally intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 07:04 PM
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I feel good to be wrong if I learn something especially. What emotion do you feel when you fuck up badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:39 PM
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Totally agreed about incels, I say frequently if they spent energy they spend on complaining on self improvement and action they would find some measure of success. I don't think anyone feels particularly good taking blame unless its a roundabout way of taking "credit" for something and the semantics get confused. I know women in my personal life who accept blame on a regular basis without making excuses for their actions so I will have to agree to disagree with your opinion on mature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:09 PM
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Its equally likely that OP's mom was a total moron. I think you're transposing your experience you had with your parents onto OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:02 PM
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You say when women are at fault, they immediately get defensive and try to absolve themselves. Mature men however will take responsibility and accept blame. I agree with both these statements. What are your thoughts about immature men and blame? What are your thoughts about mature women and blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 06:01 PM
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It hasn't been true of my experience that a majority of women cap out at 18 because "society stops challenging them" whereas men "keep maturing their entire lives". I have walked the tapestry of people and those women are certainly threads, I would put them at a hefty chunk of millions of people like 20-30% of women. I might just be lucky and have lined up my life to interact and do business with quality people more often than the average person going off of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 05:35 PM
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they had damn good reasons for how they raised you. Let's not get too crazy here. Not all reasons I would call good, certainly not damn good. Parents are wildly varied and I've known too many to say all parents had damn good reasons. Inb4 APALT
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 05:31 PM
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with the understanding that they'll be having a permanent sexual partner. Those poor bastards. Sexless marriage sounds like a living hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 10:49 PM
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Haha, basically using faith (certainty) to tap into whatever reality you want is the main premise of the book. "Act as though You Are and You Will Become"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 09:15 PM
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Permanent consent in marriage should still be a thing in the sense of affirmative consent which is a stick, weird thing. Like, if a husband starts making moves on his wife and she doesn't say no there's kind of an implied yes there by virtue of, well, being married! I don't know what your mental concept of a "good man" is, but I'm pretty sure I'm not talking about good men in any regards. I am not sure if "infrequent forcing" is how I would describe it. If a woman wasn't in the mood or reluctant…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 08:47 PM
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No, I knew alphas your height who are in poorer health and hygeine, a couple even chubby or fat. They were such self assured IDGAF/Amused sumbitches I would call them "cocky" for being so confident and so short and so fat, but it worked. But they had such great game they had no problem sleeping around with beautiful women and I mean beautiful. Game is so important and if you don't have it then you need to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:32 PM
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(faith, basically) This post brought to you by Ernest Holmes and The Science of Mind. Having said this, I agree with you that you can discover the truth you set your mind on with 100% confidence/faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:23 PM
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This is a high quality post. When the body and mind have different agendas. That's good insight, Daphne.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:19 PM
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Concepts like marital rape Gotta stop you there. It doesn't show that mean that women basically don't want to accept to have irrevocable consequences to their choices, but rather they always want to be able to back out, to undo their choics. Being married is usually not an explicit contract or consent to have sex any time, anywhere, under any circumstance. Marital rape is not that cut and dry. Rape is the forcible or coerced penetration of a human against their will. If a husband has sex with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:17 PM
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Fair enough. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:01 PM
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Thank you! A little personification goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 11:57 PM
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Thanks, IRL I am renowned for my writing skills so my admiration carries weight. Not to sound arrogant, just blunt. I acknowledge I have good taste, maybe exceptional taste. Anger is, like everything, amoral. When I see people consumed by anger that repeats and festers and doesn't change anything, I offer constructive ways to be angry. Anger wants to take action, when someone feels helpless to take action, the anger grows and grows and grows and consumes the literal human body. Once anger has ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 10:27 PM
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Communication is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 09:51 PM
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Yes. Christian would likely be a deal breaker for her.
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 09:47 PM
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Sounds like you and your partner have great communication skills which is a cornerstone of connection in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 09:18 PM
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^ Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:54 PM
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Thanks for the second paragraph, I already gave her that second bit of advice. Its good stuff. I was wondering more how to identify and secure a valuable partner from a female perspective.
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 08:54 PM
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Oh they experience hardship. Did I say they didn't? What did I say? I said the hardship they experience isn't arbitrarily proportionate to the amount of easy going they experience. If you flip a coin and it lands heads ninety nine times in a row, what is the probability that the hundredth toss will land in tails?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:34 PM
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There is no karmic justice. Karmic justice is the law of cause and effect, and the law is not a respecter of person's nor does the law of physics/nature give a damn about people's feelings. It is a cold, impartial arbiter. Its hands off approach often punishes "good" behavior and rewards "bad" behavior. Karma is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:27 PM
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The "I love you but I just really am not all that into sex with you. Truthfully, it makes me throw up in my mouth a little every time you want to fuck me." marriages are the worst. There is no curse fitting enough in the tongues of entish, elvish, or men for such vile treachery. That's how most slut marriages end up. I don't think so. I cynically believe MGTOW types want to believe that because it feels like they have to pay their dues eventually. They do not have to pay their dues, most of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:24 PM
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From the article: A woman does not care if she is “in the wrong,” has disobeyed or betrayed, for a creature who does not excel at logic is neither cogent nor appreciative of such a thing when upset. The intimation here is that if she could logically assess the situation, she would care. Later on; However, he contradicts this by saying, the heart cares not what the head thinks Part of the reason I do not follow illimitablemen.com's articles is how negatively the author's sweeping ignorance on a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:17 PM
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The marriages that result from this are doomed to failure or lifelong misery and frustration. This is the "drawback" though. They aren't doomed to misery and frustration. We want to believe that people will suffer later in life for being sluts early in life, but plenty of sluts get away with it with no negative repercussions and also without destroying her husband's life in the process. Some people just have all the luck, and there is never a draw back for them drawing a good hand of lucky genet…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 07:59 PM
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I definitely agree, having the actual person participate is best. I'll send her the link to your post and point her toward the community.
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 07:40 PM
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Some guy once said."Humans are attracted to each other's rough edges". He was wrong, whoever he was. Humans aren't attracted to each other's rough edges. We put up with the rough edges in hopes of getting the shiny parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 07:33 PM
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Someone needs to revoke that man's science degree. Dented can theory is an invention by guys who have had trouble attracting women. They want to believe there is some "comeuppance" for people enjoying things they are unable to enjoy. The truth is, naturals who are enjoying themselves don't care about dented can theory as long as someone's present condition is stable. Like its been pointed out many times, naturals very rarely find their way to TRP sub so the users are disproportionately represent…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 07:30 PM
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She is my younger sister, that is why I am fond of and protective of her. She is good at holding fast to personal boundaries. She is not entirely sure what her needs, wants, and deal-breakers are that's good feedback. What's a good way to learn that without "burning the hand on the stove" so to speak? (Method I used to learn, I have no point of reference for how to learn let alone how to learn what a woman learns about her needs/wants/deal-breakers without having had dated anyone or surviving un…
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 07:10 PM
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Absolutely requires anger. Anger is healthy. People who lose touch with their anger lose touch with their boundaries almost always. Anger is my preferred emotion to fuel radical, fast moving change. You are a natural at being a poet, you don't even need to study terms and stuff, that's for losers who over analyze what you write. Just write the truth of your experience in an artful way, that's all being a poet is and you are a natural at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 07:00 PM
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Thank you so much, I'll read these and get back to her.
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 06:55 PM
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She's not religious, just had a cloistered home environment she's leaving soon. She is looking to have sex in an LTR with a quality man, she does not want to hookup. This is really detailed and useful reply, thank you. Asked out and hit on, yes when she leaves her parents' house, which is less than once a month. She's about to go from being very sheltered to very free and she doesn't want to be taken advantage of, more or less. She would like a quality man. I see what you mean about driving some…
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 06:53 PM
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A woman can't figure out why they don't like their SO anymore and branch swing because they can't find a way to tell the guy to hit the road. Of course, if you are just talking about restaurants, a guy will then pick and be frustrated that the list of three is reduced to one based on feelings. Its fair of you to mention those dynamics because they exist. I should have clarified that I was thinking optimistically if the two partners had great communication. I'm so used to high quality women (pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:49 PM
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It's about saying "yes" to myself That's a great and wise perspective. We say no to one thing so we have space to say yes to what we want. You are absolutely right. I have struggled with shame regarding my sexuality and sexual desires all my life. I can relate to this a lot. You mention lots of wholesome, healthy aspects and skills you are learning. Acceptance of yourself, direct behavior, asking what you want, a willingness to be "unreasonable" in the eyes of others to get what you want. Its aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:43 PM
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Not lack of interest, lack of opportunity. She was home schooled through high school and parents kept her under lock and key most of her life. She has good social skills like conversation and stuff. She's graduating soon and will be out from under their thumb and she is wondering how to go about it.
/r/RedPillWives22/06/16 06:30 PM
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Its to blame for not telling them they are unattractive. Few people have the balls to look a man in the eye and say, "Well, you are just plain unattractive." Its a cultural thing of politeness, its not a grand conspiracy. Its also people aren't being taught what it is that is attracting them and attracting their partners. They're like lambs walking out to the slaughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:10 PM
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her to fuck him. him to fuck her. "Sex is something I can live without, but I enjoy having it with you and I love how you make me feel when we do the sex" is also good sex a married couple could attempt to work toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:03 PM
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Women, on statistical average, like it when the buck stops with you and you make decisions. At the very least, they like it when you take initiative. If a woman offers two or three places to go, for example, she is fine with all those, but she wants you to pick one and be the decisive person. Granted, you are picking from options, but you are making the decision. That's one way to do it and still cooperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 06:01 PM
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Guess what? The world is full of angry young men. TRP doesn't create them - they find TRP. That's good insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 05:58 PM
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Its a step in the right direction. One of the good points TRP advocates make is "Where else in the world will someone look them in the eye and tell them that being themselves isn't enough to be attractive?" and the answer is, nowhere, really. Most other advice is the advice that would be good if a woman gave it to a woman, but it is given to the man because people believe there are no gender differences. Edit: Consequently, men are set up to lose over and over and over again and fail again and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 05:56 PM
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I hope it could work. I just see the resistance most often IRL I think guys even repressed ones start to sense when someone is trying to cajole them (even for their own good) and start resisting is the pattern I am most familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 05:43 PM
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so massively inbalanced. Its a balanced imbalance. Whichever gender has the highest cost of reproduction will select, the others will compete. This isn't true of all species, but it is true of most species. If you wanted to be more balanced you should have been born as an Urban Coyote, or that one weird bird in the rainforest where the male and female have identical partnerships of nest building, egg sitting, and food gathering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:58 PM
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There is an expression that says, "Knowing is half the battle." Actually, knowing is 1/10th the battle. 90% is effort. Most guys are average, most guys wont put in the effort it requires to apply their knowledge. They are content to sip mountain dew, eat Cheetos, and bitch. Its not a failure of TRP if most people wont get their ass off the couch and hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:44 PM
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I judge that to be narrow minded and inaccurate. Plenty of successful people post on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:40 PM
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Have my upvote for the God of Tits and Wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:40 PM
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Nah, he starts to sense she's trying to control her and he resists that control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:38 PM
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you can not negotiate attraction. This should be burnt on a plague and hung from the tallest heights in every city, church, grocery store, club, boy scouts hall, and movie theater.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:37 PM
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If you're have success with women, you love women and instinctively have positive feelings and reactions to them. I'll C this V. I know plenty of guys especially on TRP whose ability to get laid often makes them hate women more because of the vapid reasons they'll spread their legs for them. isn't a good place for successful men to share what they've learned. I see lots of successful people share what they learn there. It might not be a good place for you, but plenty enough people go there they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:33 PM
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I'm seriously drawing a blank.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:29 PM
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I know sugar is a drug. I live in the U.S. I know how hard it is to eat differently. You can start simply and affordably. Oatmeal, bananas, apples kale (pretty easy to cook and make it taste good), spaghetti, eggs... Lots of food exists that will give you more energy than food that is bad for you and its affordable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:25 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:23 PM
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Right back at you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:14 PM
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3cryptic5me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:38 AM
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I'm sticking hard to 25%. I was gonna barter down from 35% but I went low and I will go no lower. With the conning them into pregnancy, I'm not saying it doesn't happen (because it does) I'm going to put that at a low percentage of women who will go so far as to prick a condom or give a blow job with a condom, keep the condom, and stick the semen up. I don't think most girls are both capable and willing to carry that out. For the ones who do, yeah, totally. They can get away with it and that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 04:48 AM
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I would say that is a very accurate and also poetic description of society. Forces do beset me on all sides trying to bring me down to their level. I am not an island, or a demigod. I feel their affects every day. You should read The Power of Habit and Leadership and Self Deception. Two books I highly recommend for people like me who want to get ahead in life using substance and not style, quality and not quantity. Paul O'Neil made a fortune by being a good man who did right by his workers and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:31 PM
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If I can't tolerate someone's behavior, and I can't change it, I remove myself or remove them from participation in my life. I am frustrated, and I complain about them at times, but eventually I get over it and my frustration grows less each day as they are removed and no longer negatively impacting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:18 PM
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As children, we really don't know any better. In the formative years, our brains absorb the habits and beliefs of our surroundings. You had no way of knowing or being responsible for the choices of your parents. I resonate with you on kicking your butt, not theirs though. Like me, you must also recognize the only people we can change is ourselves. Even knowing that, I have found it useful to not blame myself for things that weren't my fault or that I couldn't have known any better at the time. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:16 PM
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What is the primary reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:14 PM
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I never said they are worthless. I said complaining is worthless. There's a distinction. I complain and vent, but its not my primary mode. After I'm done complaining and venting, I don't wait until things build and go vent again, I take action to change whatever the source of my discomfort is. At a certain point I remove myself from a situation, I change a situation, or I accept a situation, and this cuts off the build up that motivates me to vent and complain and I have less body tension which …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:13 PM
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What tools do you have to deal with discomfort besides venting? I vent and complain, too, but I also make a plan and take action to change whatever is in my power to change that is causing me discomfort that I vent about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:08 PM
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I wish more people would be as comfortable expressing anger as you are. I know a lot of people suffering from bottled up anger and they could benefit from association with you. The world isn't about me any of the time. The world owes me nothing. The reason I don't internalize that is because I have an upward spiral of positive self image and thoughts. Its not an entitlement issue. I worked very hard for years to become a smug, self assured prick. It doesn't come naturally to me. I earned this wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:06 PM
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I wish more people would be as comfortable expressing anger as you are. I know a lot of people suffering from bottled up anger and they could benefit from association with you. The world isn't about me any of the time. The world owes me nothing. The reason I don't internalize that is because I have an upward spiral of positive self image and thoughts. Its not an entitlement issue. I worked very hard for years to become a smug, self assured prick. It doesn't come naturally to me. I earned this wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:05 PM
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I wish more people would be as comfortable expressing anger as you are. I know a lot of people suffering from bottled up anger and they could benefit from association with you. The world isn't about me any of the time. The world owes me nothing. The reason I don't internalize that is because I have an upward spiral of positive self image and thoughts. Its not an entitlement issue. I worked very hard for years to become a smug, self assured prick. It doesn't come naturally to me. I earned this wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:05 PM
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Thanks. Sorry about a bad hand. Childhood obesity isn't your fault, its your parents, sucks it has long term repercussions for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:00 PM
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Complain away you have a right. Complaining is ineffective I think towards adding value to a life. I might be wrong. What is one good thing about complaining that adds value to your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:53 PM
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I've been wrong before, perhaps I'm wrong right now. I don't know you, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. In this case, I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:52 PM
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You are wrong. Half inch of pec does not make a girl as sexy as a guy. Also, even if we were attracted to muscular women (Hint, we're more interested in curves, biologically speaking) Men still gain more upper body muscle mass than women. We still have it easier in the gym. As for these guys who like flat women, where are they? Most guys and by most I have ever known I mean well over ninety percent of guys like boobs. Well over ninety. Of course there's some guy's with a fetish who will want the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:24 PM
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If you raised taxes on single moms, even with good intentions as a deterrent to single motherhood, that would never pass in the US. Its an unconstitutional bill of attainder against a specific demographic. No one will care that a few dudes on the internet recognize that single parenthood isn't ideal. All anyone will see is a lone wolf mama trying to pay her bills and feed her family; On her own, she's not going to get taxed. They get government assistance, WIC checks, etc. They're not going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:19 PM
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Flat chest. Pecs aren't going to do much to lift a flat chest. Yeah that's crazy, gotta research those bras!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:44 PM
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Haha, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:41 PM
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Weight maintenance. Cardio doesn't give you bigger boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:41 PM
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Let me ask you one thing. Besides the release of negative emotion from the body, which venting can do... What good does complaining do? I mean, for you, personally. What is one way your life improves when you complain? What's the benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:40 PM
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Everyone has a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:40 PM
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OK you have raw sex appeal. How is your personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:38 PM
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That's it? That's all I get? I get to be right? Edit: As in, right like in an argument like I get to be right in an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:16 AM
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True, but you can't turn brown eyes into blue eyes, can't turn dark skin into white skin, can't change your height.... Luckily for us, the Aryan master race is a myth and also not the standard for beauty. Height on the other hand. You are right. We can't grow taller. Women also place slightly less emphasis on looks than males do, so upping our game has higher dividends than female game does. If you look crisp, strong, and confident its pretty consistently effective. And when I spin my wheels, ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 06:05 AM
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I don't believe beauty is a social construct. I think some things are more fashionable or socially acceptable, but has little to no influence on biology unless someone has a really specific fetish for what's fashionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:56 AM
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You and I can put work into making ourselves more attractive. What exercises does a woman do to not have flat chest? What's fair about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:52 AM
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Feminists believe beauty is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:50 AM
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What's unfair about it though? Are you an average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:46 AM
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this is an unfair problem for men What is unfair about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 05:18 AM
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they are former party girl carousel sluts That's just, like, your opinion, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:53 AM
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They have a right to their life, and I have a right not to like complaining. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:50 AM
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The complaining. I also blame them for making a rational cost-benefit decision to not exercise right, to not eat right, to not sleep right, to not discipline their mind right, and to not take power into their own hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:32 AM
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People don't think the universe be like it is, but it do. Look, let me be clear, in my experience former incels have landed 6 and 7 for LTR. And before you think what I suspect you might be thinking; No, they are not betabux. Their SOs are madly in love with them having buck wild, ass spankingly penetratingly, orgasmic, frequent, reciprocal sex. Incels improve way, way more than just 1-2 points if they discipline their body, their mind, and (I hope) their grooming and their wardrobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:31 AM
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If you wont blame them, I will blame them in your stead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:21 AM
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RIP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:20 AM
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I was joking about how much time and energy they put into complaining. That being said, they can definitely get a 6 or 7 for an LTR. I've seen some butt ugly guys land 8+ for LTR I'm confident an incel working hella hard on themselves can get some raw sex appeal and game for at least a 6. At LEAST.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:19 AM
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All I had to read was the title and I agree with this post. If incels put 1/10 of the effort to self improvement that they put into complaining, they would be drowning in HB8+ pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 01:07 AM
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If you're a quality polygamous guy you can get a quality polygamous girl. I don't think spinning plates necessarily necessitates ending up in shitty relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:19 PM
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Its way too high risk low reward to do this underhanded method. I have had more success bringing these men along with me to the gym, helping them out with mental belief restructuring, emotional release, and setting them up with a girl. That takes more effort than calling up an escort, but its far more likely to succeed, simpler, and can be done on a trustworthy basis of honor, honesty, and mentoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:52 PM
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I know they do. This is a CMV post. I'm skeptical of lots of "leaps of assumption" (as I judge them) of evo psych, but even I know that evo psych can't be applied to mate selection within a civilization model.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:50 PM
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I know its not a hobby. You're not the first to point that out. Unfortunate oversight of a juxtaposition on my part. I am currently in a relationship with an exceptional woman whom I love dearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:49 PM
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You brought up a lot and I want to do you justice and engage in this dialogue. If that isn't more emotional, or at least comes across that way Touche, I said they aren't more emotional, but you're right they are I shouldn't of said that that was an incorrect statement. The way you describe men and women fighting is typical and common. Your first paragraph reminds me of my family of origin. A short thought on safe spaces. I am against the politicization of safe spaces and making entire campuses i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:47 PM
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Not one I'd want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 05:25 PM
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Should not, still do. Its the old hopeless romantic trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:17 AM
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Well, out of the goodness of their hearts they should at least not actively deceive the guy that she's into fucking, then guilt trip him into staying. Just kidding, not the goodness of her heart. I mean, if the guy was led to believe there would be fucking, and there's no fucking, it sours up the relationship. Passive aggression, resentment, loss of connection... IMO relationships are happier for both parties is most of the needs are getting met and there is good communication. I don't think its…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:13 AM
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Maybe all the guys with presence and demeanor she's talking about just also happen to have the looks of an Adonis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:08 AM
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masculine advice Individuation isn't masculine or feminine. Its one of the few neutral concepts that is good advice across gender and polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:53 AM
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sex isn't a LIFE GOAL for most men You are wrong. Sex IS a life goal for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:52 AM
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Are you talking about that Wal Mart Rollback pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:51 AM
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If you are gross and disgusting and the most confident man in the world most girls are still going to find your confidence as "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:48 AM
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Too simple to blame that all on abundance mentality. Gotta remember one true love/oneitis, dependency on female/male validation, fear of being alone, so on and so forth...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:47 AM
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Gavinok, I think you're right with a lot of men. I certainly know people this would apply to perfectly. However, I think its only for people who have other attractive qualities already and just need to up their game. If an incel doesn't have much value even when he's confident (weak, short, ugly, boring, no skills, no money...) adopting positive thinking isn't going to help them very much. If they leap right into the sexual market place without doing some self improvement first. Otherwise they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:45 AM
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A true bro doesn't lie to his bro. The end result of that maneuver would make the person feel even worse. Breaches trust of someone he thought he could trust, and has his wildest hopes and dreams dashed as he realizes "Angel" didn't really care about his Warhammer figurine collection. Doing this would be like hitting someone while they're already down. I assumed this wasn't a joke even though its funny and made me laugh because its not posted on the Automod so I'm responding seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 06:39 AM
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Exactly. That's why I think OP's view that the selection "doesn't make sense" is wrong because yeah it wouldn't make sense if we evolved to select in civilization. But we didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 04:47 AM
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Wait, so you're telling me... I can fight to win, and fight to end in sex, in the same fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 04:00 AM
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Wait, so you're telling me... I can fight to win, and fight to end in sex, in the same fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 04:00 AM
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We didn't evolve to select partners based on civilization. Civilization is a very new development, our genome allows us to flourish in the tribe. You can't use your rational mind to decide who gets you hot and horny any more than you can use your rational mind to stop being allergic to bee stings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:26 AM
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Hahahaha, touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:18 AM
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Again, I don't have a problem with play fighting ending in sex. Sometimes, I want to fight to win, not to fuck, and that's where guy friends come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:17 AM
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I'm great friends with my SO. I have other friends. People who consider themselves best friends with their SO aren't even as great friends with them as I am, usually, because I have impeccable trust and communication. "Best friend" becomes an arbitrary, subjective distinction. Its cluttering language. The image that comes to mind for me when people say their SO is their best friend is that they suffocate each other. Obviously that's not what you mean by it because you said, it doesn't mean you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 01:14 AM
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I stand by those words. A wife is a poor substitute for a best friend. A wife as a best friend is like tofu meat: Better than nothing, not better than the real deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:16 PM
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Not arbitrary. You couldn't move OG barbie's limbs in 1/10 the direction a G.I. Joe could.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:02 PM
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No. I said people are happier having a best friend (a commmunity) besides just their partner. You think people are the ultimate happiest when their best friend is their partner. You are wrong, and I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:01 PM
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G.I. Joe is more fun because it is a toy. Barbie is a doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:34 PM
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No, I just have access to more information than you do. This is an article that expounds on the entirety of that research instead of cherry picking it: "But the second part of that finding threw it out the window: It turned out that the couples who were best friends and lived together were just as happy as couples who were best friends and married. In other words, marriage didn't appear to matter much at all." "What is really remarkable about the combined findings of the 18 studies," writes DePa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:33 PM
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That's awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:20 PM
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Well, they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:20 PM
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Yes. Married people are happier than alone people. The research linked doesn't conclude that married people are happier than married people with best friends and a strong community. The latter are the happiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:03 PM
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I love weeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:11 PM
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Sorry, I just saw this link is the huffingtonpost. Could I get a verifiable source? Huffingtonpost would say the Earth is flat and have twelve bullet points proving it if it suited their agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:09 PM
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Its not a matter of if you need friends, everyone needs friends. Its not healthy to rely on your partner for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:36 PM
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I didn't say sexual rough housing is a bad thing. I love sexual rough housing. :) They see it that way because it is that way. I am sorry, we don't consciously choose how our body pumps chemicals. Its a machine, a very advanced machine. I would say that is my experience with most men, as well. I only spend my time with men I can trust. Relatively few, far between, but very important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:35 PM
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Get a bunch of men with masculinity and SMP issues I have objections to RP, but masculinity isn't one of them. Do you have an issue with masculinity? What do you mean by graduating from affirmation to authenticity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:51 PM
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I'd hardly call my male friends clones of each other. They all have individual unique outlooks, behaviors, personalities, values. What we share in common are just core things like keeping our word, telling the truth, etc. We are all individuals with some shared ground, go figure. Saying all men are clones of each other is going too far into ridiculous falsehood territory. Would you also say all women are clones of each other? Of course you wouldn't. If all your best friends are women, you are mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:39 PM
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A neg should be a positive experience for the girl receiving it. Agreed. Done right, it should be relaxing. Done wrong, it makes a girl tense up and is unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:27 PM
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I really don't put them on pedestals and I really don't mind if they don't like me and that confidence expresses itself naturally in the flow of conversation. Its not an affectation, ruse, or artificial ploy. Its not manipulation. Its truth of expression. It MIGHT be manipulative if someone is pretending to be confident, but pretending to be confident is so common and so widely recommended in almost any circle in the entire world that I don't think it qualifies for the negative connotation of "m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:26 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:24 PM
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Its hard to say what is a man's interest and what is a woman's interest. We need more time and data. Only recently women were ALLOWED to pursue "masculine" things that they were socially and/or legally barred from. Like, for awhile we thought wearing pants made a woman masculine. We now see that pants have nothing to do with core masculinity. Masculinity and femininity are very real, but it is hard to say what ALL things are truly masculine and feminine, and which are erroneous mental images of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:18 PM
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I think some interests can be shared. For example, dancing. In dance, the man leads and the woman follows. Its a shared activity, like heteronormative PIV sex, that takes both the masculine and the feminine. Where activities overlap, like this, its possible to have shared interests where the purpose of the shared interest is to mix feminine with the masculine. Another example is gardening. Gardening takes both feminine and masculine. A successful garden needs both destruction of weeds and nurtur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:14 PM
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This fucker actually thought I'd still be up for having sex with him after that. Its probably usual for him to prey on insecure people. I bet a lot of people's heads would explode at hearing that a "mangina white knight" went home with you instead, haha. Space Whiskey should be God Emperor of NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:09 PM
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whose your genuine best friend? A man's best friend will always be another man. A wife is a poor substitute for a best friend, just as a best friend is a poor substitute for a wife. A man is healthiest when he has other men who are worthy of trust and respect that he can share masculine issues and interests with. It helps regulate our central nervous system and keeps our body balanced. It creates a strain on the relationship of a heteronormative man and woman when they try to take the place of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:04 PM
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That's a really fitting metaphor because for the most part feminists are fighting an imaginary enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:21 PM
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You're speaking autobiographically. Just because you've never experienced productive anger doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 06:20 PM
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We are animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:55 PM
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Haha, I have a personal vendetta against kilts. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:54 PM
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All I said is that its normal to express. I should add healthy to express. I'm not sure how you extrapolated that I am justifying bullying, being impatient, childish, etc. Not all anger is reactive anger. Anger can and is expressed in proactive ways. You're expressing vitriol right now, which is a form of anger. "It's bullshit" is an angry expression. Raw expressed anger is the least useful emotion in literally all circumstances. That's an opinion on anger, not a fact on anger. There is a time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:28 AM
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This guy is fiercely defending his status as a timid, unmanly creature. It boggles my mind. How can he say you don't need to be brave, while he also exhibits the courage to stand up for something ludicrously wrong on social media and gets harassed for it? How could he do that without tapping into and (misusing for a lame cause) his own innate courage? Stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 08:12 AM
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you're all understandably more sensitized to gendered expectations around what being a man means. If you think we are more sensitized to gendered expectations, you have been meeting very different women than I have. One after the other, ten by ten I meet women who are likewise getting therapy for having imposed standards of femininity imparted to them since the day they were born. Also, its great women wear pants, but I don't want the right to wear a skirt and not be judged. I have no desire to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:56 AM
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How do I realize this? By finding a way to erase from my memory all world history, anthropology, archaeology, ancient texts, religious knowledge, cultural knowledge, experience from travelling, and common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:47 AM
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Anger is an emotion that, if buried and not dealt with, creates passive aggressive behavior, psychosomatic illness, and tends toward self sabotaging and destructive behavior. Its much healthier to express anger than to bottle it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:39 AM
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Masturbate means to have self stimulated sex. PIV sex is, by definition, not masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:37 AM
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It's normal to feel, not to express. Its normal to express, its not normal to repress. Repression is a learned behavior, expression is a natural expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:35 AM
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I'm skeptical of your strategy because its vague inapplicable concepts like thoughtful and interesting that could mean anything or nothing. I am also skeptical that you can have casual sex while still somehow signalling that you're not a slut. I could make an exception if you were explicitly asked out or asked a guy out on a legitimate date as that would differentiate slightly from being picked up at a bar. Before I pass judgment, let me ask you one question: Has this strategy worked for you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 07:20 AM
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I'm glad to be helpful :) Remember its a process, just like working out, don't think in terms of absolutes. If one day you say no, congratulate yourself, if the next day you say yes when you meant no, forgive yourself and just note "Ah, there I am again, I recognize this pattern!" and just keep moving forward and trying and striving and it will get better, it will get easier, it will become a force of habit, but it will start off as a force of will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 08:34 PM
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Thank you, its good to hear this is the best advice so far! I also am a more naturally conflict-averse people-pleaser. I have a great fear of losing connection with people and being alone. Also, I came from a small suburb with sparse people my age and none of them seemed interested in me so I know what you mean about faking the mentality. Emotional awareness was my the first step to being able to say no. We all have different underlying motivations to not say no. Identifying what that is, in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:36 PM
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Good analysis. That's similar to my point that there are good statistical odds that the average person who wants you as a plate isn't in a position to want you as an LTR. I don't know whether a guy should or shouldn't see it, but emotions aren't changed as quickly by rational thinking. We always want to stay the same or move up in anything, if the plate is average for other plates he will not want to give up the other plates to exclusively date that one. If you are better than the other plates a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:07 PM
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I'm open to this possibility, understand the values I put there are for a guy who is more interested in having the freedom to fuck a variety of partners that person would have a loss of their interests entering exclusivity most likely. How would someone become a premium option, hypothetically?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:02 PM
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In your case this would be a win/win relationship. I'm saying if you are having casual sex and that's not what you want, then its a lose/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:01 PM
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Good point about not all guys, utigers, that is true. Glad you agree about the ability to say "no deal".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:01 PM
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Are you saying that even though women have stronger feelings, they are also more experienced with and better at dealing with them? GENERALLY SPEAKING; Yes. If all other factors are the same except for the gender, the woman will always have the slight edge at EQ. will a female be more affected by the death of a parent than her brother would be? Depends how old they are. As children, the impact is very similar. As adults, they will experience differently. With grieving, it is a real wild card. Aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 08:17 AM
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If you let yourself be a plate and you already entered into a relationship you are fighting an uphill battle. Psychologically, people don't like to feel like they are losing something from their base point. If a man is used to getting sex from you and he's not giving you what you want, it will be very difficult to renegotiate that arrangement in the midst of it because it will feel "negative" like he's "losing something". Think of it this way: Plate: 40$ LTR: 10$ Nothing: 0$ If you go from nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:39 AM
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He cites all the shootings from the beginning of the country, failing to take into account when there was a statistical prevalence of Islamists. He is gay, he has experienced discrimination for being gay. He believes the shooter has no connection to ISIS. OP skipped the part where the state has a law that allows an employer to fire people simply for being gay. The author asserts religion is a place men in crisis can turn, suggesting the religious claim is a part of the man's homophobia not the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:25 AM
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I sat with this question a good deal tracing back memories of all kinds of female interactions over the years. In my experience women have felt more acutely and expressed more naturally and as a result were able to complete a grieving process faster than an average man whose emotions were more likely to become blocked and stuck on one person or event than a woman was. In short, they are more emotionally invested and they heal faster for the same reason; They have a higher sensitivity and more ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 07:08 AM
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WYSIATI
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 10:43 PM
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I know, and I'm going a step further and saying that's as it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 10:00 PM
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You learned how to say no. We say no to some things so we can say yes to the things we want. Saying no is an important part of trust, too, it makes you more trustworthy. I don't trust people who don't know how to say no. People in love are always convinced they are winning, even when they aren't. This right here is a good bit of poetry. Are you a poet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 09:53 PM
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Those engineers, scientists, and doctors need to hit the gym stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 09:52 PM
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You're welcome. :) Like I said, there are only pros and no cons to exercising, eating, and sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 09:18 PM
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I highly doubt its neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:48 PM
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Work her ass off and be promoted on the basis of merit and out competing others also climbing to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:30 PM
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In gambling, the house's goal is to get you addicted to losing. Normal brain function experiences negative feedback from a "near miss" as just a miss. a gambling addict's brain reads a "near miss" with positive emotion the same as when they get a "win". The positive feedback loop is what gets them addicted. I hardly see men complaining about being addicted to a positive feedback loop to women, in fact its quite the opposite on RP sub so I don't think apples can be compared to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:19 PM
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Ask me a question that isn't a yes or no question and I can answer better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:17 PM
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OK. Here's a bluepill post on the benefits of exercise. Number five is prevention of cognitive decline. Number seven is boost brain power. Other numbers have what I listed as well (getting more done, etc.) There's a link to each source in each number you can click on if you are curious where they are getting their information. I hate the Huffington Post, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/27/mental-health-benefits-exercise_n_2956099.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:01 PM
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World domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:55 PM
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I guess my girl is like my milk: 2% Just kidding, I only drink whole milk and that on occasion, preferably with coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 07:07 PM
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I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:31 PM
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I agree with you on this. Generalizations are useful and they exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:13 PM
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Women aren't as humourous as men are, so its no surprise the blue pill isn't very funny. I think comparing it to a comedian's routine is a disingenuous defense because even a great fool can see that its not that at all. That's my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:13 PM
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All women, most women, or some women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:10 PM
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I read the narrator in the screen junkies epic trailer guy's voice. This movie should be made, would get a lot of guys thinking about curing their oneitis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:02 PM
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Just to clarify, the intent is not for the new recruits to believe there are no exceptions? I ask because a lot of new recruits consistently give off the impression that they don't believe there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:00 PM
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Period at the end should be a question mark. Everything else checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:56 PM
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the GMP is huffingtonpost-lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:52 PM
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This is the first I've heard of him. He's even more of a white knight than I am, and I thought I had the shiniest, whitest armor of all the knights in the land.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:51 PM
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I bring it up because anger is healthy, but bitterness it to anger what depression is to sadness: Unhealthy. Unbalanced brain and body. I know from experience that having a constant influx of negative emotion flooding my body decreases my bodily health and my brain functions. So, I recommend ways to be OK with allowing, expressing, and taking action from anger, but I do not advocate any school of thought that gets someone caught up in bitterness because it takes years off of their life. In other…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:50 PM
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If the resources bargaining chip only exists with artificial social restraints then chain me to the gym instead. Fit men are smarter men are more balanced chemically men are more energetic men are get things done men more so on average than their indolent counterparts. Increased productivity, increased acumen, increased industry. Everyone should be working out regardless of their level of sexual success. I have no sympathy for anyone who wants to return to a society that gives them a cheat code …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:44 PM
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As devil's advocate, they are upset that they get called out on saying horrible things about women, but women aren't as often called out for making sweeping horrible statements about men. That is true. But, I maintain, the best way to avoid a double standard on how people regard shitty language is to avoid using shitty language and you can fly below the misandrist radar. The RP sub's entire defense of vitriolic language can be summarized by "She [feminism] started it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:37 PM
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Epicurean model is more endorsed by 'T's on a MB's scale than it is 'F's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:32 PM
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Acceptance is weakness in the sense that weakness is vulnerability and self connection to allow these feelings to be felt without stymie or judgment. From that place, you can decide what you want to do with those feelings. Stuffing them down or avoiding them just prolongs the inevitable anguish. I speak from experience having my stomach turn from the thought of my girl's past lovers. I allow myself to feel that jealousy without judgment and use it as energy for self introspection and action.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:31 PM
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a lot of the initiates apparently don't get the memo that not every woman will cheat. That's not a failure of the initiate, that's a failure of the leadership. Or, a success if that is the intended outcome. Its not an outcome I endorse, but if that is the intent for new men to believe that all women will cheat than the sub is very successful. RP theory in practice is different than, well, theory. Because I hear this a lot that RP makes room for exceptions to their stereotypes, but I only see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:31 PM
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Its a good step out of RP theory to recognize that women have self agency. The next step is to realize that hypergamy is a bunch of bollocks built off a truth that women recover from break ups faster than men do so it makes them seem like callous bitches looking at them from the outside in or from a masculine perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:25 PM
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Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 04:54 PM
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My white male privilege check arrives every two weeks in the mail. Don't you get yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 04:53 PM
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"Sir, I object!" "Are you in love with the bride?" "No! She's an AWALT, I came to save my buddy from oneitis!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 04:53 PM
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Manosphere takes pride in offensive language and then gets offended that people are biased at them for citing offensive language. Talk about setting yourself up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 04:48 PM
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So... An earlier RP view I heard is that women are trying to leech alpha cocks and beta resources off men. Men are MGTOW and society is collapsing as betas will no longer do beta work because they're not rewarded with a partner society forces to marry and stay loyal to them. Now, beta men are seen as less masculine because women are doing jobs they were previously restricted from so there isn't this male mystique or exclusivity and men working jobs cannot rely on their jobs as their sole masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 04:46 PM
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Its hyperbolic because it views men and women as opposite players in a zero sum game and sexual strategy is amoral and anything goes, gloves off, below the belt, let's win this game attitude. It couldn't be called reasonable boundary game because it is not reasonable boundary game. Reasonable boundary game is not playing mind games with someone trying to make them afraid and wonder what you're up to and in some cases actually being up to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 03:55 PM
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Not safe at all. Women aren't more emotional than men. Women are more expressive and more attuned to feel higher quality and quantity of emotion than men and process it quicker. I find it odd that men look down on women for having a more advanced brain than them emotionally wise. There's no research to indicate that being strong in that part of the brain weakens being smart, it would have to be more indirect (difficult to think straight if you are having a meltdown? For sure. Do all women have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 03:51 PM
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Well bloopers are wrong about that. Pushing past a no toes the thin line of date rape and I think overcoming LMR should not be attempted by newcomers to the sexual marketplace. I would hate for a misunderstanding or misapplication to potentially end up in the disaster of date rape. I know it can be done right because I had LMR myself once and someone did push past it without me feeling coerced or uncomfortable. Usually its the otherway around. As long as you respect no means no I think both part…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 10:20 PM
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No. I meant it as a joke that was my intention using the automod. I don't believe TRP endorses rape. I think OP makes weak arguments for a strong ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 10:12 PM
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Rape. BP opinion: sexual assault violation TRP opinion: playful flirting Source: redpill sidebar "when no actually means yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 09:23 PM
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I have seen haggard, obese people whether through lifestyle or genetics with food stains on unflattering clothes and an abrasive personality still get laid. If you are what you described and still fail ALL THE TIME (everyone fails some of the time) then there is missing information that needs to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 08:53 PM
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I see what you mean. Its not a one size fits all, I definitely know people similar to that. I'd say if one person starts positively changing and the other person remains stuck, its a good idea but the more likely outcome IMO is the one you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 09:49 PM
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I used to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 09:47 PM
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The ability to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 09:40 PM
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What if you're confident, but lack boundaries? I think in that case its only a matter of time before someone preys on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 09:29 PM
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As an NF myself, I can certainly see ny bias and your perspective. I'm open to the possbility divorce isn't necessarily the best option. (Fs can use T and Ts can use F its just which hand is our dominant hand and so forth.) I learned how to use T incredibly well as a result of being forced to by having an environment hostile to F. Not everyone overcomes like I do, but I can see I might be wrong about divorce always being the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 09:22 PM
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t's hard to say if a kid would do better or worse if the parents divorced versus stayed in an unhappy home. Big picture its always better for the child if dysfunctional parents leave and hopefully one of them heals some dysfunction. Children are products of their environment and they emulate the behaviors of those around them. Ending a bad behavior dynamic is always the best option for the child in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 08:39 PM
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I don't know you so I'll take your word for your experience. I certainly know plenty a women like when a guy takes the initiative, I've never seen this translate to liking being talked down to or being controlled versus led and there's no scientific way to verify if someone is being led or controlled (because of varying/differing styles of comunication.) I'm basing just off my experience though that women in my life in family, friends, lovers, acquaintances, class mates, etc. It varies if they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 08:33 PM
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"He's getting something better than he's providing at that level. So he's going to work hard to maintain that relationship." It also said perhaps wives mirror the support they get from their husbands, but usually give less. It also intimated guys were getting a good deal on their wives looks. I'm not red pill, but I recognize an intrinsic versus extrinsic value exchange when I see one. This study supports RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 02:32 AM
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I'll challenge your view that they lack emphasis. I think they do emphasize being tall, having a nice face, etc. There's no exercise you can do to get taller. The reason you see more posts about other factors of looks is because its within their emphasis to change their style. I have accused TRP of many things, but never that its not ostensibly about self improvement. Confident, assertive, well dressed, well groomed, healthy body are within our realm of control. Making ourselves taller is not. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 10:45 PM
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White people represent domesticated, docile Betas? The ghost of Jack London would like a word with you. Seriously, guy's a chaotic, colorful character. He was almost always the alpha of any room he walked into both physically and mentally. He was white.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 07:19 PM
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I have no argument. I want to understand you better. You can choose not to answer. This is Q4BP, you answered, if you don't want to answer that's fine, I merely assumed you did because you answered. I'm getting mixed signals here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 06:32 PM
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I think its a good idea politically because Obama has been criticised because of his criticisms of safe spaces and stuff. Whether or not rape culture exists, many people believe it exists. Brock being white and a male and getting a light sentence fans anger. Overnight he became the poster child for white privilege. He became a national focal point of controversy and so I think it does warrant a statement from a national figure to let people know not everyone condones the ruling. Biden being a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 04:16 PM
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So, if your friend was gender fluid and he asked you advice to help get in touch with and express her masculine side, what insights would you offer her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 03:40 PM
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Thanks for the tboughtful response, social forces are powerful. One aspect of masculinity I see as a social construct would be the obvious "boys shouldn't cry". Obviously we do, and I do make a distiction between normal human grief and alternately wallowing in self pity. What is one thing you believe to be innately male? Female? This is important to me because if we can't find one then non binary folk would only have the option to emulate social constructs of gender and I do see this happen. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 03:21 PM
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Do you view all gender as none of your business?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:37 AM
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Most of gender is cultural and conditioned. Do you believe there exist aspects that are not? If so, what would one aspect be?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:36 AM
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So male and female are on a spectrum and most people fall between it. Do you know what constitutes as male and what constitutes as female?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:35 AM
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I agree with not rigidly enforcing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:33 AM
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What is one innate sexual difference you believe in?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:32 AM
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What is one innate instinct of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:31 AM
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Their LTR is the weakest part of the sub and the one with the recommendations for textbook abuse because it approaches LTRs from a position of dominate the woman like you would a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 04:45 AM
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Fucking over someone who is trying to fuck you over is probably "less wrong" than fucking over someone who has treated and intends to treat you fairly. Its deceit, its up to you how wrong you view it or right you view it, but other people are also allowed to view it through their own lenses from the outside looking in on you. Every way of man is right in their own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:40 AM
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No one said it was equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:36 AM
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100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:04 AM
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In defense of Julian shaving natural hairiness I have known the occasional girl to not like body hair and while girls may not be turned on by hairless christian grey look alike motherfuckers, you run less of a risk of turning someone off for having too few hair than the risk you run turning someone off having too much. I'd say too little hair is a more tactical option to get the widest chances of the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 03:03 AM
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TRP complaints that women are sluts riding the CC and all they can find are AWALTS who want hookups with alpha cock and have no agency to refuse their own desires. Instructions for a girl who isn't a slut and doesn't put out and says no to hookups and reins in her desires is that she isn't worth their time. In short, RP confirms AWALT isn't true and also that they don't want to mix themselves with disciplined girls who they pretend to crave but keep saying don't exist. Further confirms my theory…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 02:13 AM
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That's a pretty big if. That if has more holes than the 6,000 creation theory IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:43 PM
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Its amoral when I'm winning and immoral when I'm losing. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:47 AM
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All women are able, some are willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 12:57 AM
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Statesman in the streets, wildman in the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:18 PM
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Not all feminists. I'm a feminist in the sense I think women should be free under the law to individuate and self actualize, I'm not a SJW or a cry bully though. I think that relationship you described of two individuals complimenting each other is a win/win interdependence that I strive for. I mean independent in the sense the two people go well together, but can live without the other if they needed or wanted to. I think the ability to say no and walk away is a prerequisite for a win win, othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:02 PM
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I prefer feminism to the zealous hive mind of TRP. If I had to pick my poison (I don't)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:54 PM
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Leaning on her will only kill the attraction if its a pattern and you become a negative person who takes more than they add from the emotional atmosphere. Loyal women want to support you when you're down, but they don't want you to stay down. Most normal humans, including women, want to see your weaknesd. Its authentic connection, we all crave it that feeling of togetherness. Yeah, there are men and women who kick people when you're down, but that's unusual not usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:50 PM
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Redpill assumes that if a woman can get away with it and gain something, they will betray your trust. Also assumes hypergamy and AF/BB. Also hates feminists. RP believes your best option is a win/lose while I believe this is the 2nd best to a win/win. Feminism is a prerequisite for a win/win because only two independent people can create it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:44 PM
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Loyal women like when a guy is vulnerable. It helps them relax. As long as he's not needy or codependent on her, generally its fine. Too much instability is too much of a good thing and can get stressful. The common mistake is men trying to lean on her like they would a mother. That will kill the tingles pretty fast. Women aren't shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:35 PM
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NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 10:24 AM
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I don't view selection as a moral issue that reflects positively or negatively on someone's principles or character. I could make a moral argument that men are more shallow because they have lower standards of criteria for selection than women and want to "fuck anything with a pulse." I find moral judgments of DNA irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 10:23 AM
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That's like saying I'm a Buddhist because I see the value in emphasizing the present moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:55 AM
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Women are more selective than men. Sexual selection is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:52 AM
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OP is wrong about looks. So, yes, it is a rebuttal. Additionally, I'm rebutting this moral argument of "men are less selective therefore women are more shallow" idea. Selectivity is amoral. Sexual strategy is amoral. What you see is all there is. The study was restricted to looking at profiles. There's no room in the study's parameters to "go deeper". When has agency ever had to do with attraction? My tastebuds find Coca Cola tasty, doesn't mean I drink it and there are healthy things that taste…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 09:30 AM
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Look, women can't much help what their stock model biology does or doesn't find attractive. If they're not turned on or aroused or attracted its not because they are shallow creatures unless you want to make a moral judgment on DNA. What, am I shallow now because I can't force myself to be attracted to body positivity minded tumbr usersr? They can have the most charming personalities and if I can't get hard I can't get hard, this doesn't make me shallow, just human. Its not like I or a woman wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:50 AM
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What if there are just less attractive men than there are women? A lower supply of attractive men doesn't mean women are more shallow. In any species, the gender with the lowest cost of reproduction will find a higher quantity of the opposite sex attractive. Women aren't shallow, men just aren't as attractive to women as women are to men gauging only on sight/appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:12 AM
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I mean, I could pull any one of hundreds of peer reviewed research papers that say in a species the gender with the least cost of reproduction generally seeks more short term strategies and vice versa, but I'm assuming you read those already. I can link them if you want, but its easier to just use Google. Hypergamy as a concept is similar to the Golden Tablets. No one can prove it exists, but people put their faith in it regardless. Nice ad hominem, though. I'm very triggered by you and I'm goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 06:50 AM
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There's also a youtube video called 100 proofs the Earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 05:43 AM
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An alarming number of male feminists take a route of repressing/demonizing their masculinity/sexual desires. It is not a healthy model. I am in no way intimating they are not responsible for their actions. They are responsible for their actions. I believe repressed masculinity is a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:33 AM
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Love is not a primary emotion. To say whether love exists or not is to define love. Is it the oxytocin? The tingles? Infatuation? Loyalty? I myself have defined love so far: The expression of love is letting go. Listening is an act of love (empathic not autobiographic). In this I have succeeded in giving love and receiving love. I do not believe in true love, soul mates, death do you part, etc. I believe in respecting boundaries and having boundaries. I do not sacrifice and do not ask someone el…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:03 AM
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I'm not going to let something as leaderless and nebulous as the feminist movement dictate my principles. You might be right that the ideas cannot be in harmony yet. I say yet because society changed once it can change again. An idea is always a minority view before it becomes the zeitgeist. The two ideas are cooperative in my mind and I have decided I like it that way. Society will not impose its view on my mind. My mind shares its view with society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 10:48 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/4fjpcg/red_pill_detox_first_aid_kit_start_here/ This is a good post that catalogues lots of strong challenges to red pill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 10:31 PM
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Its necessary to believe men have a choice where women don't because it justifies controlling behavior in men by creating a premise that they are doing a woman a service by treating her like a child. My mom believed the same thing about men that men "can't help themselves" and used it as a justification to be toxic and controlling of us boys. Same shit, different gender. Red pill saying women have a lack of self agency as an intrinsic part of being a woman is setup for textbook abuse in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 10:20 PM
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I believe women are capable of greatness. I do not believe feminism will destroy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 10:11 PM
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He does say young men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 09:51 PM
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I would recommend against anyone getting blackout drunk. I'm OK with this as long as the rapist is held fully accountable. I don't see why the two ideas (condemnation/prevention) cannot exist in concert and harmony with each other. Also there needs to be a strict explicit emphasis that the victim was not responsible for the attacker's actions. Victims often suffer irrational guilt and there must be no danger that someone risks feeding them something that would hinder the healing process. He or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 09:45 PM
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As a sunbro I hate to engage in jolly cooperation with a darkmoon, but I agree with almost everything in the OP. If there's one discrepancy I would not use a charged word like positive masculinity as I think masculinity is amoral. Other than that, I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 09:35 PM
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Well you said non teachers never, and here's at least one case so the absolute statement of yours doesn't hold water. That's one reason I'm non red pill. I deal more with trends, patterns, statistics, but am very wary of absolutes and if I can poke one tiny leak in an absolute I drop it entirely and move back to "most/more" type statements. Example, most people (over 50%) prosecuted for statutory rape are men. This is a cold, hard fact. Most statutory rapists are male. This is a conjecture of mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:47 PM
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Subjective. Rape and murder of a woman or a child will always be seen as more heinous than male on male murder or rape because men naturally have more innate physical strength. This is irrational not rational perception because there are plenty of men weaker/timid/etc and also they deserve as much safey as a civilian as anyone else under the law. With great power comes great responsibility. The disparity wont matter if you are not a murderer or a rapist you will never be affected by the double s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:41 PM
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That's a tremendous point, the first time I've seen it brought up, too, which is surprising because desperation and nothing to lose does result in dead witnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:34 PM
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If I didn't want a car to crash in to me, why did I drive to work? Sure they ran a red light, but I put myself in that position by risking that someone would run a red light and break the law. An ounce of prevention...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:32 PM
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http://fox2now.com/2015/06/24/woman-gets-9-years-for-statutory-rape-of-sons-friend/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 08:20 PM
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Underage boys are not capable of consent therefore all sex with them is rape because you can't get consent. I have mixed feelings and thoughts about statutory, but young younglings would probably be more preyed on than anything if it didn't exist and they are at a severe tactical disadvantage power wise from an adult so with some light tweaking to prevent couples from running into problems when one of them has a birthday first to 18, I think statutory is a good law in theory to protect minors wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 07:18 PM
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Sure. The same way the Bible proves there is a God.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:40 PM
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Sure. Such a woman is no more accurate in her feelings and thoughts about men than a terper is about women. They're both angry, hurt, and keep assuring me between drinks that "really they're over it and they're just accepting cold hard reality." In the woman or man's eyes, they didn't have a shitty relationship, they had a relationship with the opposite gender, and that was the problem because all men/women are ______ and _______.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:38 PM
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Your error was that you assumed that all women are capable of leeching off men (maybe because you think men are just too stupid to notice). No. I did not assume that all women are capable and I don't think all men wouldn't notice. Because of your faulty assumption, you couldn't fathom a possibility of a woman not getting what she wants. Correction, I can fathom it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:34 PM
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Freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 07:25 AM
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I don't know who Chad Thundercock is, but he really gets around more than any guy I've ever heard of like I'm talking Guinness World Book of Records tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 06:28 AM
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My impression is that its linked to the failing public education system. Boys aren't given an outlet for competitin and "rowdy" behavior, and they are taught that expressing their masculinity is immature. They bottle it inside, suppressed emotion, feel alienated, and are set up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 03:13 AM
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That's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 03:11 AM
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The red pill does not have a monopoly on truth. That said, it is more accurate in certain fields than feminism is. It has too many false ultimatums and their absolutes are packaged with the skin of heuristics, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 03:10 AM
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I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but did suspect the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:27 AM
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This is very helpful actually. Thank you for taking the time to write it. Easy to read and informative. Mascularchy is a good term. This by far the best answer so far information wise. I can confidently say given these nuances that TRP is fundamentally incompatible with Islam. Thanks for sharin' the knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 02:16 AM
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Not the only way, I never said that. There aren't exactly crime logs we can look back on, since it wasn't a crime it wasn't formally recorded like you would record a harvest. Nowadays, we have domestic violence statistics, still pretty high and more men are violent to women than women are violent to men, husband beating is a thing though and its terrifyimg because people often don't believe or they ridicule the man who tries to get help and out of a toxic relationship. Having said that, women di…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:46 AM
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It is a sad truth, but you are quite likely right about that use by date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:40 AM
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Alt right corrects the record when people accuse them of being against non whites and the donald stickies non white Trump supporters to showcase his broad appeal and their inclusiveness to non white races so I thought ethnonationalism was a fringe/minority view of the alt right. Or is it a mind game power play and are they deliberately lying about being inclusive? Because that would be very clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:37 AM
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You have my attention, I was unaware of the Asian/Indian influence in TRP. What is a good example of a Western value that opposes an Islamic value?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:34 AM
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That makes sense. Terpers do uphold the first amendment, unlike social justice bloopers. This is a good point, thank you for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:29 AM
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Feminists and TRP have some similarities to Nazi thought indoctrination, but so does anyone. Hitler based the process off the Catholic church, or so he claims in Mein Kampf. Anyone is a Nazi if you're wilfully falsely correlating cherry picked information. Its a fallacy to call someone a Nazi unless they are literally a Nazi. Nazis were Nazis. They advocated a promotion and preservation of the so called Aryan master race, believed in a global Jewish conspiracy, and the deportation (first solutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:27 AM
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I am not a bigot. Most Muslims are not and do not condone terrorism. I am not conflating RP with terrorism. That's an excellent point, gaming the system is very different. However, I have heard it said the old patriarchal model is good for society in RP and that gaming the current system is just making the best of a bad situation and that the patriarchal model is the ideal we cannot revert to, but would if they could. Burkas is specific, but it fits with chastity and not being a slut. To be fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 01:16 AM
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It means you have discipline and ambition. You are ruthless and determined, you are cool and calculating. You have a masculine polarity because you are more competitive and cooperation is a means to an end. Just like not all people are right handed, you are not predominately feminine. You are a southpaw, metaphorically speaking. If I had to wager a guess, I would say you have the element of surprise when someone first gets to know you and do business of any kind with you. I would hire you on as …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:40 PM
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I should rephrase that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 09:43 PM
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So you yourself pose no hindrance to mens' spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 09:43 PM
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Agency is and moral fortitude rely heavily on the prefrontal cortex of which women naturally have a stronger one and it also develops faster mens'. Men do have naturally higher ambition and testosterone and are more competitive than women and have increased upper body strength. In general, men are better at achieving and women are better at cooperation. So they have an edge in the boardroom, but we have an edge at making sales. Men are much better at making sales than women most of the top perfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 09:05 PM
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Haha, yeah. Thatcher didn't get her nickname by having an exemplary demeanor. Ayn Rand, to me, is an anchor that reminds me that among the desert of women who are prone to irrational tendencies there exists oasises of rational thought as well. AWALT is not useless, I agree. However, I personally have no use for it that adds value to my life as it precludes me from taking winning risks I learned from reading Prospect Theory. A winning risk mitigates danger and maximizes reward potential. In theor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:33 PM
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I don't think its as simple as a lack of empathy. I would argue that someone with high empathy could be betrayed and feel very bitter toward the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 07:49 PM
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hyper emotional humans and not more than that. The ghost of Margaret Thatcher and Ayn Rand would like a word with you. It is true that women experience emotion differently than men. This does not prove other RP tenets of AWALT such as hypergamy. It will keep you safe to treat all women as a potential whore, but not all women will whore themselves out to Chad Thundercock even if he has more attractive qualities than her SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 07:41 PM
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simply telling the truth is offensive to some people. This is the reason I was given as a child for why the world would be offended if I shared certain views like homosexuality is wrong. They said some people can't handle the truth, darkness hates light, etc. Truth will offend some people, but it is also possible to offend without telling a single truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 07:27 PM
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When you say 'we' are you yourself advocating or complicit with the invasion/removal of mens' spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 07:21 PM
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It is textbook abusive, but its effective. It just depends on what outcome you desire to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:56 PM
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Its easier for a man to cum on a first date, statistically speaking, than a woman. These are average men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:39 PM
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More women than men can enjoy sex without craving it as much as we do. This is a position of strength if you know how to leverage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:37 PM
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That's an interesting perpective. I'd counter that the elements of attractiveness (confidence, physical fitness, skills, money, etc) benefit a man regardless of whether he leverages this to win the sex game. I also like that approach much better than Islam, which is similar to what RP describes as a more stable society where women are coerced into marriages they don't want to keep betas happy and productive. Naturally, I was surprised to learn that RP is not supportive of their ideal culture tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:27 PM
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The end goal is to have a relationship where the girl is in love and there is no threat of her leaving you, you have peace of mind and you have a steady sexual outlet. You would employ this tactic at any point where you have not accomplished those goals. Language like girlfriend and affair implies this happens after you have entered a partnership agreement. I.E. it wouldn't be an affair if it was an open relationship. Breaking contract establishes dominance. You need abundance mentality and be w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:21 PM
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After you kill off the empathy circuits in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:19 AM
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I know what you meant. I meant something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:18 AM
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If feminism is behind this supply of blow jobs then pin a "We can do it" poster to my wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 08:10 AM
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This comment should be the OP. They hate dependent women, hate independent women. Its a legitimate qualm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 06:11 AM
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Theft of an inanimate object is not analagous to assault and violation of a human being. Yeah you're stupid, but women can't walk away from their bodies. Maybe in a heroin trance? DMT? Prob not advisable, still doesn't excuse a rapist. Most rapes don't happen during OBE although disassociation and trauma occur often during the act but by then its too late and was an effect but not a cause of the rape. For the sake of argument, let's pretend there is congruency between rape and grand theft auto. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 03:08 AM
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I pride myself on having a stronger prefrontal cortex than a lion, though I lack its magnificent voice and physical strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:36 AM
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If I got caught stealing that unlocked car with the keys in the ignition. Was it the car owner's fault I stole it or was it my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 02:19 AM
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Purple pill it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 01:33 AM
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Its been years so I recovered good, took a few years though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:48 PM
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Having intrinsic value makes it easier for women starting off the gate, not being able to have as high returns as men do on self improvement is a disadvantage if you were born as an ugly woman, though. Double edged sword as men is that less are naturals, but almost all men can learn and improve with higher returns on their investment than ugly females. Example, what workout do you do as a woman to get bigger boobs? Its hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:45 PM
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Are you open to the possibility that two disciplined and principled individuals can enter into partnership honestly honouring agreements without being forced or coerced into honouring them? Man and man business partnership? Male female sexual partnership? I agree beforehand it would be foolish not to protect yourself from the eventuality that they wont, never give all your eggs to someone else's basket in case you're wrong or you were right but then they changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:42 PM
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No worries thanks for the correction, I don't like to operate off falsehoods so I'm glad to be wrong on this so I can have more accurate knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:39 PM
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Brake failure down a hill flew into the side of a moving car each of is going approx. 30 mph.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:36 PM
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Think of it in terms of constants and variables. Men and women, barring genetic outliers, have the same set of constants, its up to the individual to find their variables. BP can never work because they believe all the constants in our DNA are social constructs, but they're wrong. The fifties and sixties man are cultural constructs, mentalities, but the idea that men are more prone to risk and danger than women is a constant. TRP at its best seeks to hone in on these constants and give men the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:34 PM
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Life isn't fair. Like Mark Twain said the world doesn't owe us anything; It was here first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:23 PM
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Yeah. I only play non head contact sports now. I got a head injury from a bike triple concussion. I can't responsibly live my dream of being a cage fighter because now my brain is high risk for very bad trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:22 PM
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I like that description. I'll check out Mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:20 PM
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Yeah let it out (in a safe space of experienced supported male only space cause women don't understand us and can't offer as quality feedback as other men can.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:20 PM
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I love that book. Iron John is a good one, too. Artofmanliness blog, usually hit or miss, has a concise breakdown of the book you mentioned that I think is actually more useful than the book itself cause it explains it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:18 PM
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Are you familiar with The Mankind Project? They might have what you're looking for that you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:16 PM
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Soccer and American football create repeated light head trauma tht could damge intelligence. Same as some MMA and of course boxing and getting punch drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:59 PM
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Ah, I was misinformed. Thank you for the correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:59 PM
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Women are now eligible for the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:30 PM
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I judge redpill by its tenets, not by those who subscribe and don't believe/follow the tenets. I think the Vanguard and most endorsed contributors can be safely judged as practicing what they preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:24 PM
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Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:13 PM
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Sins of women are different than men. Women seduce and trick men into exposing weakness then they stab them. Of course we're suspicious and mistrustful of them. Still... NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:10 PM
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Managing your relationship in such a way that she is left with a constant, gnawing feeling of impending doom will do more for your cause than all the Valentine’s Day cards and expertly performed tongue love in the world. Make a blatant but plausibly deniable move on one of her friends when she’s not around. The news will get back to her. Milk it. Ignore her calls for a week. When you eventually answer and she reads you the riot act, act as if nothing was wrong and accuse her of sabotaging a perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:04 PM
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I'm not forgetting about that. Of course they can. It wasn't really relevant to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:49 PM
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I think some of the techniques are highly intelligent tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:44 PM
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Men controlled the guillotine because society used to think women were more sinful than men. Eve ate the apple, the witch made me do it, her tits were showing and she seduced me (says the father who molested the 7 year old). Men are fucking awesome, I love being one, but not all of my male counterparts can be trusted. Some men, are wonderful humans and a wife could trust them to control all resources and major decisions. Some men, can't be trusted to not break frame and end up wife beating. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:42 PM
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Hahaha. I don't agree, but it made me laugh. Reiterate, you may not agree with the sidebar, the vanguard, the endorsed contributors, but they made it clear that is what RP is so if you hold a non RP view that's great I'm not addressimg your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:37 PM
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Naked trust is certainly setting up for failure. This is a really good post, you obviously think meticulously and independently. Everyone is it for themselves certainly, I've never dated or fucked someone out of the kindness of my heart, I gotta get mine, I suspect women are no different. It ultimately is on them if they stay. They may feel helpless, but there is actually more support for women getting out of anything than men bcause 2/3 of partner on partner violence according to FBI is males h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:35 PM
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Dread Game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:22 PM
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I know the toxicity works. I'm not parroting lines. These are my own thoughts. Its your opinion that I have a lot to learn about strength and truth. I do, there is always more to learn, the learning leads me away from the concept of evil. Does the Osprey consider itself evil when it snatches fish from the lake? Women don't need a man to control them by virtue of being a woman. People are always happier having a choice. Some women seem to need it because they're helpless, but they could also get …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 10:18 AM
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I don't give a fuck about morals in or out of TRP. What is the significance of that link? I clicked it and it was a female pilot who crashed. At the risk of seeming to be insulting your intelligence, was that supposed to be an indicator that women are worse pilots than men? Because whether that is true or not there is no helpful or relevant info in that link. It says there's some controversy that beimg in a race to get the first female pilot and improperly training her as a result may have kille…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:48 AM
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That was it. Women are no worse than men IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:28 AM
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Some women don't want to be taken care of. Taking away their agency doesn't really empower them to live life the way they intend. I think you meant enrich, but certainly not empowered. Anyways its not a fact, its an opinion that taking away women's free will enriches their lives. Some women do want to be provided for. Good for them. The ones who didn't took up arms and rid themselves of a system that neither empowered nor enriched them. Good for them. Strength and truth I like. I think evil isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 09:26 AM
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They are threats. Some of them. All of them have the potential to be threats, not all of them follow through. All humans have the capability to lie to me, after getting to know someone or seeing their mettle tested, I give some the benefit of the doubt they are not lying to me. Not all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:33 AM
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Sexual strategy is amoral. Science is amoral. Yes. You consider that some of the strategies are fundamentally immoral. You consider some views wrong (eg: women cannot love a man the way he wants to be loved). This does not mean that those startegies or views are incorrect. It is a sad but true situation. I don't consider them immoral. Morality is a social construct. I also agree women don't love men the way a lot of us expect them to subconsciously i.e. like our mothers do. The strategies are co…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:24 AM
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Not all women wage war on men, not all men wage war on women. Its easy to slip into us v. them, but without rational thinking our intuitive minds run havoc with the data and its easy to perceive everyone with a vagina or penis as a potential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:45 AM
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Thanks, and you are right. Reminds me of my sweet mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:41 AM
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I made a statement and didn't assert anything beyond that. I didn't say it was true because of that. Although, since you must know, Archwinger fucks my wife for me when I phone bank for Bernie. My OP does speak for itself. Would you say TRP is NOT partially about disempowering women? Do you take issue with that view? Or are you saying it IS, but that the heavier focus is men's self improvement (in which case I agree wholeheartedly).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:35 AM
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Thank you, I'm glad you validate it because you're a red user that knows their shit. I read your sticky on TRP, that's some life coach tier knowledge there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:38 AM
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Archwinger backed me up on that statement, he's pretty red.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:36 AM
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Its in their sidebar its an endorsed red pill view. Near the bottom of "RP, relationships, and you." The interpretation that women are better off that way is common. In other news, a post recently by Heartiste says America is starved for white testosterone. Takes a special kind of wilful ignorance to think testosterone has different characteristics depending on what spectrum of light your skin reflects. This doesn't necessarily "prove" his views on women are wrong, but for a sub that prizes the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 02:18 AM
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I think TRP is pretty explicit that they believe successful interpersonal relations between a man and a woman involves women surrendering her agency to be the first mate to his captain. They also say women can't be trusted with decision making or to make rational, logical choices. She can't help herself, she needs a strong male figure to guide her. You have to treat her the same way a parent would a child, involving conditioning and control. Its not "this might be used to control" its "this is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 12:51 AM
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If you enter relations with a woman and follow Vanguard's sidebar, it recommends parental psychology and dog training books to understand how to treat a woman. I'm not saying all subscribers or MGTOW endorse TRP, but if you have a RP relationship you do not share power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:36 PM
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First off, thank you for taking time to read and respond. I find myself agreeimg with quite a bit. In order to play the game of conquest, there is the conqueror and the conquered. You then admit further down that being an abuser does work, and I'd contend it most certainly works better than being a beta nice guy, so why not go that route? The obvious counter argument is always "well, there's a middle ground", but middle grounds are hard and being an emotionally abusive asshole is far more expedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:21 PM
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If all of my assumptions are wrong, then red pill does not encourage men to workout? I do not simply think TRP is solely manipulative, I think I covered healthy self improvement in my OP if you read it again you'll see it. Does TRP not teach abundance mentality? Does it not teach that women pursue their biological imperative at the expense of men? (Hypergamy). Does red pill not teach that women do not love men unconditionally unless she is your mother? If you do not believe those things, you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:24 PM
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Thank you for helping me tag correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:08 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11269758/Why-we-need-more-men-only-spaces.html "the UK already boasts a plethora of women-only spaces where men are actively banned from entering." This is one facet where women are throwing used tampons into a guy's shop and there is no talk of sexual harassment. Can you imagine men throwing used condoms into a women's salon and not having an uproar? Now, I think there should be an uproar. I am not an advocate for sexual harassment or really any haras…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:03 PM
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I like it the way it is. If I were homosexual I think I would experience the reality you're talking about, and I might like that better if I did. Being as I am, I'm happy with the biological differences between male and female and differng sexual strategies. I find it fun and I love having fun. I'm a simple man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:34 PM
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Society, average blokes who don't buy in to RP, would be wise to notice that men are failed by society. There is a vacuum of support and resources for men and RP fills that vacuum just like an inner city gang fills a vacuum for directionless boys. Society needs to pick up its slack with men, RP picks up that slack. While I disagree with most RP solutions for interpersonal relations as a manual for Abuse 101, I like their emphasis on masculinity and self improvement. Society should give men more …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:07 PM
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Agreed. It is socially acceptable for a woman to be sexist, it is not socially accepted for a man to be sexist. RP is justified in calling out this double standard for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 08:58 PM
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I see what you mean. I can see how it could be addictive in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 08:56 PM
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No, I get ya. And I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 08:55 PM
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From a Buddhist point of view I suppose it is addicting. All habits are. For me the difference between habits and addiction is that addiction is something that "takes me out" but exercising helps bring me in, present, on my edge, and I believe it is a keystone habit for success. I have picked up and dropped exercising habits with relative ease and it is nothing like my nicotine experience. The closest I come to resembling an addiction is that when I spend a lot of energy I have a lot of energy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:28 PM
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You gain time, though. If any human right now, on average, took a time log of their day, we would all find that most of our day is spent on meaningless bullshit that doesn't improve or educate us. Weirdly, working out probably shows discipline to accomplish other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 06:51 PM
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Muscular guys are usually smarter than those without muscles. The weight training improves overall body health which improves blood flow to the brain and they usually eat alot of proteins which parts of the brain actually craves and the increased carb intake helps make more glucose for the brain which enables people to use "system 2" rational thought processes for longer without getting tired and relying on irrational ones that dont take mental focus or energy. Actually, its because I love good …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 06:30 PM
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Who is Elliot and why should I care about whomever this is? Sounds like the consensus is that he's, whoever he is, is responsible for his own failings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 11:13 PM
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I agree, we're the first ones to die. Men have historically looked down on other men who lookout for their own safety above the safety of a woman or a child. I think that's warranted. We're most capable of fighting, I'm with the Commandant in that I hate how politics are interfering with the military right now. Putting women up for the draft is the stupidest bullshit that's happened in awhile. That's not equality, that's madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 11:08 PM
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Not in certain eastern communities. Like the single child policy led to girl infanticide so boys could live and carry on the family, also don't have to pay a dowry or something. But yeah, I could see more boys being aborted fits with my general impression, I just ever seen the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 11:04 PM
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Thanks for honouring me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 11:03 PM
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I would say yes since your criteria is her having a strong father. Strong fathers tend to help pull their baby girls out of situations that make them unhappy and wield a lot of resource and emotional support for them. I would say no if you were lookng for a girl with daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:48 PM
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Sounds sexy. Do you reciprocate sexual fidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:41 PM
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I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:40 PM
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What do you bring to the table as a boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:29 PM
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What do you look for in a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:11 PM
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Vilar does cover the dark side which is good. Yeah I saw that, it was great. The three people are very inflammatory and rude, as is their right to be. I seen lots of people advocate taking away their free speech. Fascists, all of those whiners. :) ironic for a group that would never consider itself fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:35 PM
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Evo psych is legit, RP would greatly improve if they learned some evo psych. Most of their evo psych is to science what snake oil is to medicine, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:31 PM
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Rise up is interesting language. I thought RP men were looking for someone to bow down to GF status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:28 PM
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Just chiming in to say the OP is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:27 PM
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Esther Vilar isn't a feminist though. I checked out her book Manipulated Man, its almost as rubbish as Steinem's no gender approach because the gender differences Vilar proposes are grossly unrepresentative of the two genders. Sommers is fun I like Sommers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 07:21 PM
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Even if abortion is murder I think its indiscriminate whether you are male or female...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:55 PM
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Males generally speaking don't experience fear like females do. Most stupid accidents and tragic deaths happen to and by males, We're also much more violent than females. Look up rattlesnake fatalities, more men than women die. Women hear the rattle and shy away, men hear it and think "I wanna fuck with that snake it will be fun" haha. As a man I also have a disregard and attraction to danger unlike females who have an aversion to it, so I have to force myself through mental toughness to be safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:54 PM
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Go spend some time on TRP sub if you wanna experience a male "the world is out to get me" culture. Society is suppressing truth and punishing me for having it? Check. AWALT? Check. Men are "plugged in and trying to silence me?" Check. The state is trying to cuck me and steal my resources and hand them over to women? Check. Just like rape culture, they focus on reports of censorship and whores and create an availability cascade that leads to paranoia that people are actively trying to fuck them o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:47 PM
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That's a lot of names. Any of them worth for me to check out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:37 PM
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I got a book by Steinem. I don't like her because she denies the obvious differences between the sexes. I like her friend Florynce Kennedy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:27 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:24 PM
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Yeah all sex as rape is a toxic ideology that does exist in feminist circles. I'm glad you broke free from that it sucks for men and women! Very bitter misandrist philosophy that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:18 PM
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That's news to me bcause the feminist hetero sex positive book Fire with Fire came out in 93.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:02 PM
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I don't have alpha looks, and it works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 05:58 PM
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Take it however you want. I had to go on the automod for a top coment because I agree with the OP that deeper voice is sexy because more testosterone. Doesn't mean acknowledging a basic fact of life makes other, wilder, tin foil hat theories true like hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 05:56 PM
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That's badass man I'm happy you read it and can vouch for it. Yeah I love that book it is really good. It will never be required trp reading because Interdependency isn't something trp promotes. I agree with you, it should be required, but it doesn't fit well with the founder's zero sum do it yourself don't trust anyone philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 05:48 PM
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I don't want to invalidate this Ristik guy or others who relate to him, I've had a different experience. Having sex with feminists I really like because they're sex positive generally and accepting of me being sexual with them. They are really good about pregnancy prevention, generally more pleasurable and giving with sex. I can't relate cause feminists helped with language for sex and not feeling guilty about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:26 AM
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Checkmate blue pillers, Barry White has a sexy voice so all my other theories are true. Half Life 3 confirmed, guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 06:43 AM
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Yeah. RP only teaches men how to go from a lose/win to a win/lose. They teach victims of manipulation into being perpetrators of manipulation. They don't have tools there on how to be an effective executive, a good manager, or how to create a win/win. Good books I recommend are Thinking Fast and Slow, The Power of Habit, The Seven Habits of Highly Successful People, Way of the Superior Man, The Professor in the Cage, and Donald Trump's Think Big: Get what you want in life and business. I think i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 05:37 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 05:03 AM
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That's textbook abuse to impose a curfew on your wife. Funny enough, if she felt helpless to fight you or flee from you, she would go into "freeze". Congratulations on replicating her childhood pattern most likely started with a controlling or alcoholic father.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:40 AM
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You're wrong. How would you implement that and how would you do background checks to vet safety of chaperones and who would want to pay taxes for that when it can be better spent curing and raising awareness instead of hiring babysitters? How would you write that law in any conceivable way especially for people who are 18+? Talk about a nanny state with authoritarian, draconian control. BP ideas like that I cannot subscribe to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 03:05 AM
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I was thinking around 25-30% which is a lot IMO since most I know have a mix of family and personal ambition focus and a smaller number who are happy, but no desire to bear children or go into "nesting" or anything. If I wanted to say most I would have. For example, most women don't enjoy fighting like men do (but all humans enjoy watching blood sport )
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:25 AM
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All I'm saying is that those absolutes are clashing with reality. And don't say "heuristics", lol. Its true that men and women are vastly different, but it doesn't hold water to say women are only find purpose in creating and raising young. A lot of women do, and good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:18 AM
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I worked with people and tried myself and learnt how to unlearn or overwrite traumatic responses and "triggers". I have learned that triggers can be overwritten and that trauma can be healed. I think its useful to let some guys know about consent just to help them not get a false rape charge. Honestly, if a guy is having sex with a girl in a true "freeze" he's not connecting well with her and could probably also use some self connection and interpersonal relating skills. But, I don't want innoce…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:13 AM
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Freeze is a thing. Should hapless guys be prosecuted if they weren't coercing or threatening? Of course not. But freeze is a thing, although putting the onus on men instead of giving women the tools to rewire their fight, flight, freeze response is a failure of mainstream feminism. The problem is real. The proposed solution is bad, but the problem exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:04 AM
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Yes. Because women never caused drama when they were home makers. Also, there are no career women. None of this makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:01 AM
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Agreed that was a good comparison
/r/ExRedPill04/06/16 01:49 AM
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I didn't though. I knew this before TRP. I was surprised by the rampant victim complex there, but I already knew a victim mentality is an ineffectual way to live life so I could never be RP because I like having a winner's mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 12:17 AM
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I agree with the OP without reservation. Additionally, I think perpetuating this "all women are out to get me" myth is just a way to not feel bad for lying, cheating, and fucking over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:27 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:25 PM
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Women are chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:21 PM
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I have a simple approach. "Would you like to have sex with me?" easy. Simple. Direct. No subterfuge involved whatsoever or mental mind games. Works way better than sitting around for a year wondering if someone is attracted to me or not. Nice guys hate that because its being honest without the justification of "oh your eyes are like a sea of wonders drawing me into their beauty." ugh. Every time I see a compliment of someone's eyes when their tits are clearly hanging out I immediately suspect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:20 PM
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Yeah. Similar in that I saw a white supremacist disparage an ethnic minority for the crime of being ethnic on D Trump's twitter feed and 20 supporters condemned it reminding them its not even a view of the D Trump. Misandrist feminist and racist conservative people are very loud, but I've always found them to be a minority in both groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:12 PM
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Yeah, its negative complication that the root of it is the guy having a perfect storm of ignorance. He doesn't understand women let people down easy to avoid conflict, he doesn't understand himself enough to admit he has an animal nature that would enjoy sex without the other mental baggage like "one true love" or something. Its easy to hate women, but a guy's best friend and resource for achieving what he wants out of life is other men and mens' spaces. For this reason TRP attracts a lot of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:09 PM
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That's been my experience with feminists as well, the majority of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 08:59 PM
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To me its the difference between direct and indirect. Guys who are indirect fail at life in general. They hangout with a girl for a year wishing, waiting for some romance to bloom and the, as TRP might say, Chad Thundercock comes along and says "Nice ass" and she's having some hot fucking sessions with him. Meanwhile he's completely flabbergasted. Whereas if he'd asked her out and gotten rejected he'd be a year ahead of schedule, start learning to drop the oneitis, and be clear with what he want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 08:43 PM
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I actually heard a fem Nazi shaming a girl for being a size queen. She said she was "crazy" and "shallow". Even girls who know damn well they like a bigger cock, I have never once seen them shame other guys. It would probably happen in a femosphere, but I'm not privy to such clandestine knowledge. I think its kind of a rare phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 07:15 PM
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White offspring? I'm white I like it, but what do I care if there are white people in the future? Right now the best values and culture is from white people, but I don't think its an inherent part of being white. 2000 years ago we whites were the tribes running around naked fighting the civilized Romans. I don't think the colour of skin has any influence on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 09:30 PM
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Like how the RP was taken down? Oh, wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:31 AM
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Are you sure there isn't a way? I mean, I can't account for every judge I'm sure some of them are unlawful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:22 AM
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We do need a wall to keep it that way. RIP western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:20 AM
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Well, I got a book by Donald Trump he said always get a prenup. Said to learn from his mistake. I'm not getting married because I don't want to and neither does my LTR. But, if I did, I would get a prenup that's all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:16 AM
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I'm sure if a good lawyer knew what he was doing he could arrange a solid one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 01:06 AM
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Yep. Don't wade into marriage without an air tight prenup. Only do it if its better to be married with a prenup than going under cohabitation laws if anyone wants a partner. Yeah its a jungle out there women gettin away with murder. As Abraham Lincoln once famously said, "bitches be trippin."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:52 AM
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Yep. Its easy for women to cheat and little to no consequences for doing it. I bet that kind of thing happens a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:29 AM
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Question B gives away your bias by juxtaposing a vastly superior trait next to a disproportionately inferior one. Following the trend independence, self reliance, and curiosity are the correct answers. You can also have good etiquette when you choose to. You can be free to be an asshole and still choose to have decorum when it suits you. This is classic freedom versus control of course I'd rather have freedom than be controlled. Edit: forgot C the answer is considerate. Shows volition and freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:14 AM
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That is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:10 AM
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Yeah! The theory and practice do conflict I 100% agree. Thanks for thanking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:03 AM
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Not all women will cheat though. Its just easier for them because they have intrinsic as opposed to extrinsic value so it happens more with women than men because there's more situations where they are both able and willing as opposed to guys who would like to cheat but can't because no one wants to sleep with them. Still there are both men and women tempted and able to cheat who choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:57 PM
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If I go my whole life holding up a shield my arm will get tired. RP can't distinguishe between friend and foe if they treat everyone AWALT even after getting to know them and vetting how they do under pressure or temptation. Sure its healthy to defend against unseen threats and strangers, but I consider it paranoia to treat all friends like someone you just met. The danger of AWALT is that it very quickly evolves from women could be whores to all women are whores that's where the mind set become…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:49 PM
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Yeah if they're a whore. Not all women are whores though. Some where out there a woman is preaching that all guys are rapists if they could get away with it. I'm not a rapist though so its obviously not true of all men. I don't need to write a thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:40 PM
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I think this is facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:36 PM
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Misandry is socially acceptable and misogyny is not. I think its shitty, but someone could just not be sexist and then you wouldn't have to worry about which ignorant, immature view point is socially acceptable if you don't have one. I still think men should have a right to be assholes, I defend that right I hate the BP thought police. I still believe a good short term solution is just not be an asshole while we sort out the asshole double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:23 PM
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Yeah the double standards and misandry fans the flames.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:07 PM
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Your ability to say no to riding a supposed CC and walk away from a lose/win deal are aspects of a high value partner for men who would like one IMO. I'm going out on a limb by assuming you're not trying to pussy whip a working weakling while having promiscuous sex on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:48 PM
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The difference between his and her blog is that in the nymag he wrote a lot of sweeping generalizations about women, whereas Cathy called some individuals losers. It is true that society has a double standard against men, but this blog comparison is a really poor example. She didn't obsess and create color coded charts and talk about how the more she dates men the more she hates them etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 08:08 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:06 PM
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They're still around, they're just not on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:05 PM
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Huh, did not know that. Happy to see Napoleon exhibited a wild mix of traits. One more individual who doesn't fit pill theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:04 PM
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Yeah and he got cucked, but somehow was alpha in the power plays like. He didn't fit in the neat little spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:02 PM
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Genitals and ass or like lips and stuff generally treated different. If you go for the hand its not the same as OP example of guy just grabbing butts. Super un smooth move.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 07:01 PM
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I like the idea of explicitly being pro womens' rights. I used to think it didn't matter, but there are actually people who don't even think they should have the She wouldn't be egalitarian because to be an egalitarian you push the rights of people who you believe have too little. If women, then push womens' rights. In extreme example, you can be an abolitionist freeing slaves and still be egalitarian, abolitionist title just shows how you're going about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:58 PM
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You find a mindfulness technique that works for you. Start noticing beliefs you uave about yourself. Improve what needs improving, like working out, accept what needs accepting (past mistakes, colour of your eyes, etc.) It will show, you'll nagurally start pulking in your own direction, bemg happier, more fun, more attractive, and viewing yourself in a positive light. Let go of what needs let go of, like really toxic negative views of the self that reflect in your posture, mood, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:45 AM
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Two is borderline harassment, but neither assault or harassment. I can tell you most women would feel violated, complain to their girlfriends that he's creepy, and the liberty taking sot would wonder why he got the cold shoulder and she's answering k to all his texts and then always busy when he wants to hangout. In the hypothetical elevator obviously not assault. I know that scenario almost never happen, but eh, if it did its not assault. The dance club is pretty gray, but I'm assuming its kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 05:09 AM
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It is weird how all the liberal arts colleges have a hard on for Islamic patriarchy. I'm reading what you're writing. I will think about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:43 AM
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AF/BB makes sense if she settles for a guy who's not attractive to her. That's duplicitous grade A whore behavior. Not all LTRs are betas trying to get duty sex so not all LTRs are going to have AF/BB. This is a minority scenario when two weak un self aware people get together and yeah shit is gonna go down. It doesn't prove anything about healthy, whole people. Dysfunctional people are dysfunctional, no surprise there. Its not the same as working nights and weekends, employers generally in a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:38 AM
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Because the ideal feminism preaches is egalitarian and its worth remembering that there are still some who fight for that ideal even with the cancer its become.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:13 AM
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I was cautious about their capabilities long before the red pill for those reasons, but I don't buy into the whole hypergamy or AF/BB across the board because its simply not a truth of my experience. To me that's like saying all men are rapists and if they haven't raped yet, they will. Utterly absurd. What's more absurd as an aside is that I bet plenty of women and men believe that last statement. But just because I reject one absurdity doesn't mean I'm going to believe quite another inverse one…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 01:02 AM
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So society is more permissable of unscrupulous women? Aye, I'd say that's accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 12:40 AM
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There are women who prefer to make decisions for themselves that's the concrete statement. So treating her NAWALT is to not have to accommodate womanness and against your better judgment, but it would be sound judgment to treat her AWALT? I don't consciously go against my better judgment, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 12:28 AM
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Women are women and act accordingly, but you said you frustrate your wife by not doing that? Or I mighta misread that when you said treat her like NAWALT I thought that meant you treat her like she's not like all women and I was wonering why you do that if you believe it or if you do it in spite of your beliefs. I was thinking of source material that says women are happier when a man has solid frame and calls the shots. Yet my experience with women is sometimes they want to be led and ocsionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 12:12 AM
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Yeah I want to be a feminist on my own terms, but I can't use the label now because its eroded and disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:52 PM
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Sure, people are always outside my control, I don't put my life into the hands of any man or woman. Would you say TRP emphasizes the woman part more because of their more obvious threat to a man's well being or freedom? That is, do you believe they are any more or less unscrupulous than men, or is the emphasis on not trusting women pronounced bcause they're the obvious threat in today's society? I had the impression RP thought men are more loyal than women and I'm open to that impression being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:49 PM
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Why would you advise something and do quite another thing? Are you open to the idea that your wife disproves the rule, or would you view it more as wilful disregard of the fact she is, or a third option? Aside from that, I do trust women to be women and act accordingly, but my beliefs about what that entails overlaps some and also diverges from what RP teaches. Either their information isn't stone solid, or I've lived a charmed life surrounded by unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:46 PM
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Not the masses. I'm talking about readers of textbook not writers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:07 PM
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If I am reading this right, AWALT is saying it is a safe idea to never trust a woman, not that all women are untrustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:22 PM
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Well, I don't know about all the nuances of that, but agreed she's a hustler and its admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:04 PM
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I cautiously agree with that explanation of heuristic like all guns are loaded. As car as that explanation of researching it and stuff, I agree with that, too. I'm not suggesting not to find patterns. But, when an absolute has one contradiction it must be discared. Only a sith deals in absolutes. After you investigate the clip and the chamber, you can see if a gun is loaded or not. For instance I ask a guy if a bar is fun he says, knowing my other tastes in company and drinks "Yes, if you like l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:03 PM
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Oh jeez. That's horrendous. Total power, no oversight or disclosure, its like a fem gestapo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:42 PM
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Its better to have no answer than an erroneous answer. They have no answer, no single answer, because they're open ended questions. Multiple answers can be true. Do men like good Thai food? Yes. And no. Do men like bad thai food? Yes, and no. More questions, how is the good and bad food defined? So on, so forth. If RP is heuristic then where did AWALT come from? Sounds pretty absolute to me, but I have an open mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:27 PM
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That's amazing. What's the bird's eye view of the police situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:22 PM
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Strawman I just erected. I knocked him down good though, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:16 PM
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That sounds like a good read.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:14 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:13 PM
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Hillary's not a feminist, but she vets a free pass because there was/is resistance based on her just being a woman who wanted to be a corrhpt power broker because only men are allowed to be corrupt power brokers haha. Now we're just tired of corrupt power brokers and many millenials don't give a fuck if a woman breaks new ground in an arena they want to demolish entirely. Honestly if Rush Limbaugh didn't rail his stupid fat mouth off about women Hillary never would have come to power. They just …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:08 PM
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Works for you to have the life you want to live, bit in Atlas Shrugged it says it is not selfish to live life the way you want, but it is selfish to ask others to live their life how you want them to live. It works to get certain guys and girls, but its wrong to assume everyone's either looking for the same thing or lying to themselves and demand people believe that even if it isn't true for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:03 PM
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But yeah I'd add I'm a power feminist, but the term never went mainstream so I can't use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:55 PM
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She calls it power feminism and says its directly opposed to victim feminism which is what today's movement is. Its highly intellectual and disciplined approach so no ssurprise it didn't catch on with the tumblerinas who despise her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:53 PM
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A lot of men and women hate her because she has a practical self deterministic outlook. Just try to stomach some pro Hillary paragraphs early. Several decades every feminist was galvanized for Hillary because foolish traditionalists attacked her explicitly and openly for the crime of having a vagina and this gave her an immunity cloak of sorts some of which still clings to this day. No one wanted to admit her shortcomings because there was a venomous sexist base that would support a man just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:44 PM
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I don't know about evolutionary biology, but there's a book that incorporates psychology with philosophy that is my basis for feminism (I can no longer use that word because its been hijacked by the Orwellian double thinking SJWs ). Its called Fire with Fire by Naomi Wolfe. The highest praise I can give for this book is that its about personal responsibility, rejecting persecution complex, and a love for men which is unusual with mainstream feminists. Many of todays cancer feminists hate her and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:13 PM
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Looks more like she's dating in her bizarre social bracket. I'm not a fan of her vapid industries so I feel awkward even defending her a little bit which I normally preferto ignore her or turn up my nose in contempt and sick admiration at how she fleeces teenage girls of their parents' money. Having said all that, she looks like she's datimg Kanye and dare I say it being loyal even fiercely loyal to that jackaknape even though she's paying his sizable bills and he's making a fool of himself with…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:04 PM
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I think they desire safety, they were just lied to that dangerous people were safe. I don't think a feminist agenda is to drag dangerous people in. I think they were just plain dumb, stupid, ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:18 PM
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There is no hard evidence that women with an opportunity to date someone with higher SMV will always leave their man. There is only some evidence that some women can and do and now the many are stereotyped for the crimes of a few. Not all women are whores that will sell their pussy to the highest alpha for sex or the richest beta for resources. Some do, but thats the consequences of being a whore and not all women are whores. I'd say a good number of women in life find a guy with a mix of traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:09 PM
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Reason RP doesn't work is because there's too much variance in the gene pool. Stereotypes dont work, but when a pattern or majority real or perceived turns up suddenly all men or all women are like it. While most people would agree moldy or rotten food tastes bad, lots of people love spicy and hate spicy. Assumimg the food is well prepared, people have wildly varying tastes. Some men are even turned on more by a skin color or a hair color in rare cases an eye color. Trying to find an absolutist …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:02 PM
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Napoleon is physically beta according to this, but I wouldn't describe him as being a beta male by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 06:54 PM
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Not all women are succubis trying to latch onto a beta and trick him into letting her leech off of him. Are there women like that? Absolutely, but not all women are gold digging whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 06:52 PM
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There is no such thing as bluepill. Christians say I'm going to hell, but that don't make it so. Redpillers zealously say either aIagree with them in everything or I "took the blue pill cuz the truth was too much for my white knight mangina hands to handle." Luckily for me, I have great frame. Redpill, like all cults, preys on insecurity. They teach nen valuable tools, then they go off the deepend preaching wild things based off of opinions and feelings. Just like Buddhism, just like Christianit…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 05:05 PM
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Redpill says men are superior and that society is rigged for women to access men cuz wittle women can't get what they want without men.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:57 PM
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You don't have to place women on a pedestal to acknowledge there is misandry. That's a false statement. That's not everyone's default stance. The trouble with joining RP is that its out of the frying pan into the fire. RP vanguard are not the first to see a problem. We live in a web of lies. So, they offer to people some very boring and elementary truths about what is now forbidden knowledge (men and women are different) then with that credibility and power (knowledge is power ) they sell everyo…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:55 PM
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They're pretty funny. I don't support the idea of inane insults, but I'm reluctantly on his side and his supporters because I am vehemently against the repression of free speech. He is pretty funny and I do enjoy him, though, as an entertainer.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:46 PM
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Very in depth, thanks for the thorough resources. The RP movement is incredible the hive mind is spreading fast so its good to have a place like this for people who don't want to be swept by the tide.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:37 PM
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I could see the cult like behavior. Many men will bring up things like the manginas or BP boogeymen trying to whiteknight them out of their property when you say something unrelated like "some women don't want to fuck you over" It reminds me of Christians back in the day looking at Harry Potter and spreading horror stories about a war on Christian truth and the books are trying to convert their kids to demonic forces. Having been raised in a Christian cult and spent time on RP, I can assure you …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:27 PM
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Its a lot like the Vipassana cult I was in.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:19 PM
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But the endorsed, senior, and vanguard contributors do.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/16 04:15 PM
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Ok that was a bad example. Kanye is a joke and he's broke. She bailed him out of fifty million dollars of debt with her personal money and didn't break up with him. So, something else is going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 03:33 PM
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It doesn't matter. They don't need to be concerned about loyalty like men are because they are concerned about safety which men generally aren't. Women dont want themselves, their families, or their communities to be in danger. As an aside you can teach men habits of safety and women habits of loyalty although the natural predilection can't be taught. Edit: Women's desire for safety allows feminism to work with nationalism. Conflation of open borders, lobbies, mal education, multiculturalism, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 03:23 PM
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Their politically correct globalism felled it. Norway's doing pretty good considering other countries, feminist but more nationalistic than Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 08:46 AM
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Its what all of FPS players are having with my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 06:08 AM
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When I want casual sex, its useful to go somewhere others may be as well. As far as LTR... I found her by accident. I barged in a marketplace closed for business looking to order a coffee having a private drawing class and saw her drawing a picture and asked her on a date. So I try to teach people to crash an art shop having a private drawing lesson and order coffee from them. What I mean by this is that anything can happen anywhere. Romantic long term wise, I really just never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:29 AM
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Bloopers are so ignorant they can't handle the truth they all grab their torches and pitchforkes. I am not circle jerking, I'm just standing in a circle with men trying to help each other reach orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:20 AM
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"I react badly to RP truths" what BP in history has ever phrased it that way? There aren't two sides. You broke the rules by being a red pill asking a Q4RP. Its black and white. You violated the rules, there's no shades of gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:14 AM
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Damn. This is spelled out pretty cleanly. Mods are gods. I am glad the rules protect against clear circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:11 AM
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Yeah Europe is likely doomed. I don't think that's a natural part of feminism. That's globalism, anti nationalism, open borders etc. Feminism doesn't naturally tend to that. I don't want to wear the tin hat too high, but there's deeper villainy afoot there. George Soros being one famous name I know who lends to that kind of vision. Trump will secure the border. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:13 AM
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Yeah. Hitting the gym is a good idea always. Bump up that SMV!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 02:42 AM
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He made logical fallacies against the rules. Those are almost impossible to objectively enforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:57 AM
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Experiencing divorce sucks as its weighted against men. I believe wholeheartedly men and women are different. I think multiculturalism and third wave femnism are two different things. Multiculturalism can be good as an exchange of culture, but that's not how its done and Europe is in turmoil as a result of their childish naivette and unwillngness to assimilate. Political correctness is killing Europe which I suppose is linked to third wave feminism. I think if society is predicated on betas havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:44 AM
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Well yeah, they get away with it because we live in a gynocentric society. Are you mad that they do it or mad that they get away with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:35 PM
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Rihanna, lol. She went back in spite of the beatings, not because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:31 PM
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That was so ridiculous. She lied through her teeth and bitches and white knights still took her side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:25 PM
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There's some truth to that. Teach guys more game, unwanted attention becomes wanted attention, assault reports go down. Long before a beta "assaults" a woman, there's clear signs of disinterest in them as a sexual partner. Well, clear if you know what to look for I guess. Poor fucking bastards sold this lie that unattractive qualities are attractive and end up fucking up miserably by acting on that bad information.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:16 PM
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Correction. Humans. Humans like to deny a reality when it doesn't fit the narrative. You, me, everybody. Certainly some feminists are human, though I wonder about the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 10:00 PM
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Agreed. Its a clear case of availability cascade in action perhaps with a side order of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 09:58 PM
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I'm more optimistic. I don't think successful violent revolt could be successful so I think beta males, instead of reverting to a patriarchal system, will be motivated by their biological imperative and sex drive to better themselves. Maybe they'll get more aware, self interested, self motivated, and then the new order will become an even newer order. That is my hope, but given trends I think I'm asking too much from the human race, hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 09:56 PM
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This right here is the best advice. Bitches love to be guilt tripped and obligated into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:37 PM
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It is hollow. You have low self esteem and that's unattractive. Period. Women don't want to build up your self esteem, upon first meeting you they wanna poke at it and see what happens. You don't have to get laid to have good self esteem, but you're gonna need some self esteem if you wanna get laid. I mean, I don't meet fatgirls and offer to be their personal trainer so that one day they'll be attractive. Women aren't gonna meet you and stick around waiting for you to have an attractive, confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:26 PM
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Your feelings are valid. Not because they reflect reality, most feelings don't, just that its valid to have them. I've been stood up and rejected a lot in life. I have good self esteem so I figured they just weren't interested in me and moved on. I never want someone to say yes and waste my valuable time if they have no interest in me in the first place, this saves me a lot of time and so I like being rejected. Each time I have brief disappointment followed by happiness that I don't have to wish…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:16 PM
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Oh yeah. I saw my lady gaming me with that eye. Sometimes its nice to walk right into a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:09 PM
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Not really a problem. You want to attract sluts so you say all women are sluts then you go to the slut hunting ground, slut breaks RP heart, RP vows AWALT. I think RP is fucking phenomenal to get some casual sex with hot sluts. I don't see anything wrong with that lifestyle. I think its laughable if a male or female slut complains they can't find a good man or woman in a platoon of whores. Male and female whores deserve each other. An extravert will be approached more than an introvert, but if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:07 PM
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Its not always strong, buff, and outspoken it could be strong and silent it could be normal physique but outspoken and don't forget artists who learn four chords and are assaulted by whores. Girls approach guys they're attracted to. Different gals have different preferences in different moments. Strength and confidence are fairly universal foundations, but those manifest in a myriad of ways and flavors. I've seen normal shy guys get approached and hot girls fuckin ecstatic to have them at ages l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:01 PM
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But has there ever been a time in history where A there's a feminist order and B the betas violently revolt? I honestly don't think they can succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 07:00 PM
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Much love back at ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 03:07 AM
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Not all of them, some of them. You should be as quick to say not all conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 03:03 AM
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Yeah definitely. Its hard for me in cases like that to draw the distinction between organically someone wanting a certain thing or if its just a social mental construct they have. Like these twits who have a mental idea of what a man is or should be and I can see its inorganic. This one chick thought a man should have a car, but I was staving off costs by doing a cool 20 mile bike ride every day which made me in addition to the gym very high confidence, strong, good lookin, but somewhere she got…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 01:56 AM
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Right, no I know what they are there's just different ones depending on the time or place. What's one societal norm gender role you were talking about that makes a man more attractive to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 01:30 AM
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I just don't know what you mean about the role, but congrats on becoming alpha, once the habits are in place its only a matter of time you're already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 01:20 AM
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Its not about bullies, I rough house with my siblings and friends without being bullied. That's just your opinion of conservatives which is obviously a stereotype. I'm too progressive too deal in archaic and outdated stereotypes. Not a strawman. If people just have an itch to change things for the sake of changing them they shouldn't be in charge of changing anything. Change something for a clear benefit, not just for the sake of change. Change is neutral and can help, harm, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 01:18 AM
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We did. We don't need it at the moment, so no use artificially imposing it where it serves no purpose. Best to sublimate and go forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:14 AM
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I'd say most not all were dictated by men overtime. Now there is a war for gender roles and women tell me its freeing, but they're shaming any aggressive behavior as "bad" telling me to be in touch with my heart, but not my balls. Its simple, really, realize the laws fundamental to success mean that you actually don't have to worry about any role or percieved role and the illusion melts away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:13 AM
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That's the mental aspect that is silly, sure. There is an artificial mental image of masculinity and femininity, but the terms still exist. Its foolish to think Apollo on his chariots drags the sun, but it would be even more foolish to assume the sun must not exist because Apollo was disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:10 AM
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Depends on your connotation of macho. You can be aggressive, dominant, free, determined, etc. And manifest that any way you please and the body language will align itself naturally with your attitudes and thoughts. But, yeah, you gotta have some macho slash masculine mastery to get respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:08 AM
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Not entirely true. People can consider evolution without taking a RP attitude or belief about it. You can tackle the same question and have a different answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:06 AM
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People say Facist like its a bad word. Caesar was a facist and Alexander the Great as was FDR and I like all three of them for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 12:00 AM
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I'm in an LTR I hate being cheated on so I treat people the way I'd like them to treat me if the roles were reversed. No on the casual, yes attractive, no not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 11:57 PM
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Not all change is good or bad. Change is neutral. A progressive movement was to punish aggressive fighting behavior in boys and rowdiness. It was a bad change, now they're drugged on medication and failing school. When bad change occurs, the conservatives will step up. The TSA is a disaster, unconstitutional, more conservative voices will try to stop it. Moving in a direction, changing, isn't always for the best. A good conservative says if it aint broke don't fix it. A bad conservative clings t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 11:38 PM
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Sometimes a progressive moves society detrimentally. And some quo should be left alone. Dividing progressives and conservatives into neat camps like that doesn't always work. Life isn't a Bob Dylan song.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 10:03 PM
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Seeing your views that women shouldn't have the vote, I think you're in tbe wrong camp. I like Trump because he's sensible, nationalistic, and progressive. He has more female execs than men and pays them higher and says they are better. He has been a champion for PP most of his career. Trump is an alpha and he really has no desire to infringe on women's rights so you might be backing the wrong horse. Trump is sensible patriotic right, but he wont bring in the regressive right some sexists are ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 09:19 PM
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And its good it doesn't go backwards. Sure, guys getting screwed over sucks, but going back to a time when women were screwed over is a bad solution. Then TRP hamsters that women liked it and were just too stupid to realize they want a life of servitude. Sure. That's why the liberation movement happened, says the entitled omegas ignoring mountains of evidence to the contrary that women desire freedom to access. Women desire access, and creating a system where they can't will always end in a wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 09:14 PM
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That's quite a demonization. I've found anger and fear to precede partisanship. If you don't think the left has fear and anger you're missing out on some greatly exxagerated almost doomsday warnings about President Trump. To be afraid is human, to act or react on fear is human. You can ascribe to any ideology and find humans in it and where there are humans there is fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 09:09 PM
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That's just buzzwords. The progressives of today have accomplished none of that and they arent descended from those so called progressives. That's like Republicans circle jerking about being the party of Reagan even though they are more like the Democrats of today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 09:00 PM
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I don't see how that would work. Revotls are a force of chaos against some kind of order. The whole RP philosophy of social decay, which I disagree with, is that artificial social constraints guarantees betas a woman which keeps the beta as productive member of society. So, a violent revolt to overthrow an order or create chaos to have sex in the long term doesn't work and I have never heard of a successful revolt of weak men or involuntary incels toppling a government in this way or for those r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 07:47 PM
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I know I want a yes or no answer, I know you are unable or unwilling to give it. I back tracked on the comment you introduced the cognate of law around rape and I explained the origin of views around that crime for you. I'm holding your hand as much as I'm willing, but I'm not your dad I don't have patience to give you fatherly love and education. Go find someone else if you're still having trouble with cognates or man up and do a Google search and help yourself. I'm out of patience for you dodg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:53 AM
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I think what you're having trouble with the cognate is a simple convolution of the act and the law surrounding it. Rape is penetration of an orifice against someone's will. The way the laws surrounded this in sime culture was that harming the woman made her worth less money to a father, and it sullied the honour and sexual access of the husband. I'm not sure if its an english or historical aspect you're having difficulty understanding, but I'm willing to elucidate either angle for you. Does this…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:49 AM
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If it will help you answer the question I'll gladly teach you about cognates. What would you like to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:43 AM
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I know what analogies and cognates are, I didn't pass the second grade for nothing. How do you answer: Yes or no, if it is illegal for a murdered man to be dead does he come back to life? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:31 AM
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Answer me truly: If I write a law that declares murdered men aren't allowed to be dead do they come back to life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 05:57 AM
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Its not a BP opinion or closed minded. You can't cry bully reality away by calling it mean names. The spirit of red pill is about accepting reality, even the unpleasant truths. Rape existed as a heinous act before the gynocentric BP reality came along. It will exist after that illusion has washed away. Remember I'm talking about actual rape not bullshit rape or rape culture, lest you've forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 05:22 AM
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I would say close to zero because people I actually spend time with wilfully don't hold those views. I have people in my community slash town hold those views. Them and the Cruzbots get into annoying fb wars sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:44 AM
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And men. Rape is about power in most cases, not sex, and its usually someone you know. Guy on guy rape happens and its awful. I'd rather not be cucked or raped, cucked can happen only to guys unknowingly obviously a woman knows if a child popped out of her uterus or not. So its definitely gender scaled, but we don't really need to pretend there's a female equivalent of raping a guy. They're two separate dynamics with drastically different affects. As a masculine man, I'm well aware men are more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:40 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:31 AM
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I'm quite aware there is a feminine and masculine mindset, but again its not a mental decision to view it as worse, it is ... How do I say this. If a woman or a man burns their hand on a stove, the skin will melt. I'm not challenging the reality of a feminine or masculine mindset, bit I am challenging that rape has to do as much with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 04:16 AM
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The greatest fool may say the sun is shining, but that does not make it dark outside. I disagree with a vast majority of BP. However, male and female rape victims of actual rape do tell me it is indeed the worst thing ever. I think rape, real rape not I regretted it in the morning rape, should be s human issue not a pill issue anti actual rape should be s unifying factor across aisles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:55 AM
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He didn't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:40 AM
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As the RP is fond of saying, "The exception proves the rule." Drops mic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:39 AM
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You don't know how the brain processes emotions. Being raped isn't a mental thing you talk yourself out of. Being cucked fucking sucks, but its not a competition its a different kind of betrayal and violation, but you can't compare apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:35 AM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:28 AM
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Its not the same thing. Having someone else traumatize you possibly diseasing, the ultimate violation its not analagous to "taking their power of sex away" no one's fucking holding a gun to an incels head telling them not to lift weights and eat healthy or they'll shoot them. Involuntarily incel is a voluntary decision and its passive there is no one else involved violating their body or their space. That's like saying someone who refuses to go eat fruits and vegetables is the same thing as some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:26 AM
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That Mexico is sending their criminals north more or less? Yeah. Its nothing to do with their race. The left is race baiting it, but I'm not buying that narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 03:15 AM
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And Bernie attracted violent rioters, but only a fool would blame that on the message. Trump doesn't preach racism and Bernie doesn't preach violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:41 AM
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The corporate America, of course. Not the constituency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:40 AM
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Its not possible because reality would contradict the neat, fun mythology of TRP hive mind. I also figure the sex I'm having is imaginary because I'm average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 12:17 AM
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If that was a novel, I'd read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 11:05 PM
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I don't think spirituality faded as much as its decentralized and unstandardized. If you had to choose would you live now or in the Victorian era? Assuming modern conveniences are the same, I just mean the value systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:44 PM
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A good deal is where both parties benefit. America doesn't benefit from TPP or NAFTA. Its ok to compromise and he does, but sacrifice where you don't benefit is not a sound business strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:41 PM
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Well, I see what you mean. It is sad to me to see disposable males get the shaft. I do believe the emasculation of men is a tragedy. Like you said we can't look to traditionalism as a solution. What do you think would be a good way forward? I'm curious about your thoughts, even if its an ideal that may or may not be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:32 PM
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Racist is just how they try to brand him. Actual racists are in for a rude awakening if they support him for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:18 PM
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Bernie woulda said mean things, he woulda said mean things, he woulda lost Bernout support. The millions of charity to women's health made that a win proposition for him, but no one took his offer so he had to stepout. Its as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:16 PM
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They don't like him because he is honest that he wont sacrifice American interests for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:12 PM
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That's true. Do you believe today's society was created through a different human mechanism than the Victorian era? My opinion is that the mechanism was the same human artificial complex process albeit with radically opposed motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:11 PM
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I think your rational for calling it progress is legitimate in that sense that it did progress. I have a distaste for the political theft of words where progress is defined solely by what so called progressives call progress. But progress to me is neutral. You too, I imagine. Could be beneficial, harmful, or both. Society has rarely existed where unbridled hypergamy exists and flourishes. I, for one, welcome our gynocentric overlords. They are powerless to interfere with me being a red blooded m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 10:00 PM
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That is true. Its not all bad. Every system serves a purpose and they get things accomplished. Would I want to live in a society of all Mormons? For me the cons would outweigh the pros and I accomplish a lot from cultivated internal drive and I have no desire for the social pressures of others artificially guiding my steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:47 PM
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Not sure where you're getting your information. No one knew or believed in the Holocaust until the war was already being won and allied troops had pushed in. Also, I'm a conservative, but the whole "Germany First" thing Hitler peddled was a conservative pitch. Conservatives can be hateful, liberals ca be hateful. Having an ideology and being right or wrong about something has no bearing on whether you have compassion or understanding. Some of the most hateful people I've met were liberals and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 08:58 PM
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but its also human hubris to think we're not animalistic. Our subconscious intuition has an animal urge and second we think of a 'human' reason for it. Artificial is good sometimes. I'm not an anarchist so I'd definitely say some artificial stuff does separate us from animals. I just think its shades of gray not black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 08:52 PM
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A lot of that was just secret deviancy. You can see it nowadays, too. Mormons have huuuuge porn consumption comparatively, other religious folk as well. The sexual energy doesn't go away, it just goes underground.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 08:49 PM
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I wouldn't say Victorian era was progressive. They were deviant, affairs were common, sexual licentious behavior was prevalent. It was just taboo, done behind closed doors and secret correspondence, and the risk to reputation was part of the danger and fun. (Unless you got caught and scandal broke out.) A gentleman never kisses and tells. ;) That's because her reputation is important to him in a weird way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 08:47 PM
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The expression of love is letting go. If you can create a daily habit to let go each day of expectations from a partner and let go of the desire to change them, I believe its possible. We get wired to expect certain affection like we crave our morning coffee and the moment we hold on and try to clutch it love starts to fade. I know my brain wants routine and comfort so I make concerted efforts to get uncomfortable, take time away from my partner, try to learn or experience her in a new way. Its …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 08:43 PM
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That's hit the nail there. TRP says women can't be trusted, but they can. AWALT is just an excuse for similarly hurtful behavior from men with a victim mentality. Granted, some women are cheating, slutty skanks and backstabbing hoes don't get me wrong. I absolutely will slut shame a slut who goes behind a partner's back to be a slut, but I don't resent sluts who don't sleep with beta males. We're all out to get what we want from life. Why I'm not blue or red pill is that I dont see the issue in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 01:46 AM
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The trouble is that its a false dichotomy. Life isn't a DnD game where everything is balanced. Its possible to have high quality sex, and a lot of it with multiple partners. Conversely, its possible to have low frequency, low quality sex with one partner. There are plenty of mean ugly people. There are plenty of nice attractive people. Strength in one area does not necessitate weakness in another. Weakness does not indicate another area is strong. Lifr isn't fair and some people have more advant…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 01:32 AM
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Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 04:23 PM
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OK. Marriage sinking isn't the apocalypse. I was thinking of a collapse of society and structure. Marriage isn't society. I'm not shaming men for acting in their best interests. You are fighting shadows and strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 04:22 PM
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TRP didn't invent being a man, and they don't write the rules. Its in our DNA. The red pill thrives because its easy to have a victim mentality and whine because the deck has been stacked against us while we're added insult to injury by being told its in our favor. Whatever. I'm helping men reclaim their amoral qualities of being a man. Our DNA won't bend to society's wishes. We are what we are. Apocalypse fantasy is wishful thinking and escapism. Find the way forward or get left behind, or join…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 03:05 AM
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They didn't invent the internet. Its a different time. Your future will never come. I'm not a professor in womens studies. I'm aware the system us rigged against men. I'm changing the sytem. Not from within. The red pill is not my enemy. Though I might be theirs I don't care. The red pill acknowledged a lot of useful truths, but society wont collapse, there will be no return to a simpler time unless you succeed in unleashing an actual plague. A nuke wont happen. The red pill helps people act in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 03:01 AM
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Sometimes RP works, but not always for the reasons it says it works. Its a primer for shallow behavior, but a healthy wholesome lifestyle of exercise and nutrition. Essentially, treat yourself awesome, increase your worth, know your worth. Its the woe is men and women are bitches problem. TRP treats woman like shit, woman leaves him, everyone yells HYPERGAMY and AWALT and TRP sets himself up for the next disappointment and failure, blames society for inability to love and be loved in a monogamou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 12:24 AM
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Femenism is a natural social reaction to the police state. I like the police state. It has its major flaws, all systems do. But I like it over honour culture. Both have pros and cons. Trouble with TRP is they see no way forward. Femenism doesn't have to destroy society like a cancer. We can't go back and we shouldn't if we could. That old society served its time and now we have police, internet, mobile transport. The world has changed. You can adapt, or die on your hill that forced matrimony for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/16 12:03 AM
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You can't put rules on how a woman is attracted or not. Attraction isn't just something we can decide. Maybe the reverse rape fat body positive people think an erection or wet pussy is something we can flick on and off. To a degree, and gradually over time sure. Not with a magic wand. Attraction is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 11:57 PM
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There's another model that hasn't been tried yet. I call it freedom. Hypergamy is fine. If civilization collapses because the system isn't rigged to force women into partnerships with sub par men, then that civilization maybe even the whole species could crumble and I wouldn't care. Savvy men and women can have a lot of fun acknowledging the truth, but without a desire to go back to a system that didn't work. If you hate femenism, understand that taking away a woman's right to self actualize cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 11:53 PM
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You're right in theory, but in practice with emotional entanglement I believe its a lot stickier than that. Remember, intuition precedes conscious thought and sometimes it takes years of therapy and will to recover from being in a toxic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 09:13 PM
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The framework is revolutionary in assessing behavioral and sexual differences. Their hypocrisy and unimaginative backward thinking are bad for a creative winner like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:56 AM
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I agree with core realities of the red pill, but I do not agree with their solutions. I think they are unimaginative failures who see no way forward and revere times past that can never and should never be returned to. I am a forward thinker anda great man and I'll preserve and promote masculinity, but not the hypocritical red pill elitist horseshit where men justify acting unfairly because they found out society treats them unfairly. I have nothing against selfish men or women, but I have conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:54 AM
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Can someone anatomically male become pregnant? I don't believe men and women process emotional information the same way. That's the reason we get a guy's perspective or get a girl's perspective because they do and should differ. I can ignoring sheafs of demographics, statistics, and research, just to play a pretend game where I think and feel the same way a woman does. I don't because that is unhealthy. If your friends don't see a distinction in gender, that doesn't mean there aren't, it just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:47 AM
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I've heard this perspective before. Its wrong. Your inferences are wrong. Dread game isn't playing hard to get, its a demonstration of non dependency. Dread game naturally occurs as a by product of masculine polarity; Freedom. You say also TRP caters to dependency on women. You contradict yourself. You're wrong. Most people who try to spin nonsense like this have no masculine polarity of their own and this is a weak attempt to feel good about your weakness. That's what I think of you and your po…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:30 AM
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Marriage is a bad idea in the sense that as a working man you stand to gain nothing and stand to lose everything. So its just a bad move. Not so bad if you get a rock solid prenuptial if you're a socialite who could benefit from the improved public image. I would say 98 percent cant benefit like that because we're not in the public eye. Example though if you were a successful grifter tricking people into giving you money for being a church pastor you would want to be married to avoid a scandal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:05 AM
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No, you didnt. Inb4 fact checking is white knighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:00 AM
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David Deida says women unconsciously want you to pass shit tests and they are happier when you are impregnable. I'm in an LTR and shit tests don't phase me, when I pass she's much happier and I feel delight. To me shit tests is just her dropping the unbreakable phone to see if it breaks. I think RSDTyler said that, not sure. Anyway, I like shit tests after I pass them, but not while I'm being tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:35 PM
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Praise the sun!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 03:19 PM
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Men who are happy being emasculated are in denial. Men are much happier being free than being pussy whipped. Women hate this because it goes against their interests of controlling men. Men who are truly happy being a slave to the whims of another person are either the exception to the rule or a myth altogether. Either way, all men or the vast majority of men are happier being free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:13 PM
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Men and women can't be friends with each other the same way men can be friends with men or women can be friends with women. And they shouldn't try to force it, its a house of cards that inevitably crumbles. who wants to be friends with a dude when you know all theyre thinking about is getting in your pants? Bingo. If you don't like guy friends, don't hang around with guy friends, but don't demand that they emasculate themselves and become girl friends, that's just selfish and rude and that kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:11 PM
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I mean that's who the book is targeted towards, and some of those people are probably also the vitriolic men who think they're entitled to sex because they are so nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:55 PM
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Well, you're reasonable and intellectual. I take it back, you're not wrong about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:21 PM
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I haven't accepted all of TRP teachings. From TRP's perspective, I am unwilling to swallow the whole truth; Therefore, I see myself as blue pill. I loathe the idea of a purple pill. I have contempt for pussy footing and half measures. I would rather be a man and own up to being blue pill than trying to make myself feel better by calling myself purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:11 PM
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Great point, Guitars. I think betas like myself spending too much intimate time with women I want to fuck, but can't, really fucks with our minds because my mind tries to rationalize it as "This is reality, I am happy, I didn't want to have hot sex anyways." A woman will never be my bro and trying to force her into that role warps my image of reality so I don't do it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:50 PM
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But perhaps she actually found him attractive. he became even more attractive as a friend than as a boyfriend. You're wrong. Women telling men they are better as friends is just their way of trying to reject us without hurting our feelings. If a woman is attracted to a man, and they were friends, she'll celebrate that "OMG I can't believe I'm in love with my friend!" women are into banging their friends if their friends are hot, same way men are. But then again he might really enjoy having a clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:46 PM
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Modern nice guys are people who don't have the ability to say no to others even when they want to say no to others. They don't know how to be aggressive in a healthy way, they don't know how to navigate conflict or rejection so they desperately avoid these two important aspects of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:41 PM
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Society asks men to shoot themselves in the foot, then when they limp, they tell men we can run even faster if we shoot ourselves in the other foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:40 PM
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Sounds like the generalizations men hear about themselves every day. When a woman hates a man society cracks open the champagne and celebrates equality, when a man hates a woman the thought police pull him over and give him a ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:33 PM
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IMO: All of the red pill isn't true, all of it isn't false. TRP is a religion, those who don't accept all teachings are seen as not fully initiated in their way "You haven't swallowed the whole truth." This is the same tactics Mormonism, certain sects of Buddhism, etc. use. TRP is superior to Islam because it doesn't condone violence to enforcing its beliefs. They have leaders of thought and assimilation is encouraged. Truthfully, most of TRP's core tenets are true. Be a man, lift weights, have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 04:27 PM
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Ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:29 AM
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Alphas have their shit together, they just can't be manipulated or "pussy whipped" and some women resent having to share power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:05 AM
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According to Red Pill, this isn't a sacrifice, they're just getting less attractive and trying to attract a provider before they get too unattractive. Trying to "settle".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:04 AM
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Additionally, if a guy isn't sexually attractive to a woman, its not her job to talk herself into being attracted to him. That would be like me talking myself into having different taste buds, or feeling cold when the sun touches my skin. Where a beta man resents this is where he's stuck with a woman who's not attracted to him, he can't enjoy sex with her, he can't enjoy sex with other women, and she gets to use his money while sleeping with sexy men on the side. That kind of injustice will make…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:03 AM
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Yes every man should develop alpha traits. No, not every man should spin plates. I would tell your friends to lift because personal strength can't possibly hurt them. Lifting also helps your brain and makes you able to think harder for longer, so as a nerd myself I hit the gym to help me hit the books. Its just not healthy not to have some resistance training, as men. You don't have to be Arnold, but you need to lift. Confidence, better self image, all this stuff are amoral qualities. They can c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:44 AM
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