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And the false accuser remains anonymous.
/r/MensRights06/05/14 03:29 PM
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It's called "The Week The Women Went" but you wont see this because feminists had me shadowbanned. The interview was after they did the Canadian version. it seems since then they did one in the USA that tends to get all the hits on Google. It was discussed in /r/MR before but I can't find the interview. I used to have it bookmarked but can't find the interview where they admitted you couldn't make a sex reversal series where the men went on vacation.
/r/MensRights17/04/14 08:03 PM
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Ah Ampersand again. The feminists' only apologist in twenty years. It's the exact opposite of what historically happened. Back in the day women did half the work. All the clothes for the family? Made by scratch by the women. And I mean from scratch. Before they made the clothes they made the cloth. Before they made the cloth they had to spin the thread. Washing? No electricity or plumbing -- male inventions, installed and maintained by men. Take those clothes to the river and beat them on a rock…
/r/MensRights17/04/14 04:40 PM
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It's parodying a list of complimentary (but real) reasons for why women should not get the vote. I'm guessing. I guess the original had a title of "Why We Oppose Votes For Women" and the first item on the list would be, Because woman's place is in the home And I would further predict that it was an argument used by a group of women (not men) opposed to the vote for women. A similar parody piece; http://womenshistory.about.com/library/etext/bl_awp024_oppose_pockets.htm original would be something…
/r/MensRights11/02/14 02:17 AM
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Well I agree he goes wrong thinking that somehow it was ordinary men or women who decided to spend a bunch of money developing rocketry, not the military industrial complex... the rest of it actually sounds a lot like Camile Paglia's stuff.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 02:07 AM
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Or the space age was a blip designed to pump huge amounts of money into rocketry so as to catch up with the Soviets in the race for ICBMs and satellites. and once that was done -- none of the rich actually cared about a big ball of dirt in the sky.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 02:05 AM
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Yes. It's because feminism is easy to debunk that no feminist web site allows critics to post.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 05:57 PM
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It always seems like you have to spend half your time talking about censorship when it comes to feminism. That is because censorship is the primary response by feminism to criticism. Going on an on about free speech is the best defence. Why did the university back down over the security fee? probably because of the fear of being seen as anti- free speech. If you don't go on about free speech today you don't get through the door tomorrow.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:10 AM
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The last one discussed I think was the teenage girl who got herself drunk and then went to a party and had sex with some guy, then got home late so said she was raped so her mom wouldn't punish her for staying out late and drinking. She said she couldn't remember anything, he said it was consensual and she was the one pushing for sex. Verdict: he's a rapist.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:56 PM
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It's what they think about themselves, half of them.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 04:54 PM
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The message of the comic is that all men are evil and stupid, even the ones that are pretending to be allies of feminism. It is hate propaganda.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 08:24 AM
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A swing and a miss. I think you were looking for a bunch of white knights.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 05:42 AM
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who devalue people based on their genitals That's every feminist ever. For example any feminist who says there are not enough women in Congress is guilty of that. Which is all of them.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 12:13 AM
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These things never work because at it's root women have nothing to complain about. It obviously pisses off feminists that they've never managed to get men to feel guilty for nothing on this issue when others have proven easy. It might help if they could get older women to quit complaining when the "torment" ends as they get older and less attractive.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 11:12 PM
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It's natural selection. Feminist websites used to come in two types: those who ban critics and those who don't. All the ones that don't died.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:46 PM
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This guy got off three posts so there's no instaban at /r/feminism either. Just as fast as they can ban.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:44 PM
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No. If they want to remain being taken seriously the very last thing they can do is allow debate. hence they banned you.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:43 PM
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Are you kidding? any of those three ought to have got you banned before you wrote the other two. You criticised an aspect of feminist dogma == ban.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:42 PM
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It's a fact that men work harder than women and women spend most of the money. Stop debating.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:39 PM
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Feminism is about hate. Hate movements obviously don't want equality between the in group and the target group but that is not what defines them.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:15 PM
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Been an anti-feminist 20 years (most here are MRAs not anti-feminists). Anti-feminism is a form of anti-hate advocate, specialising in being a critic of the feminist hate movement and anti-male sexism created along feminist lines. Obviously feminists don't like us, although it's not true the other way around as most anti-feminists would see feminists as members of a cult-like group, albeit one they are certainly aware is in large part immoral. ETA: I don't understand why anyone would think femin…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 05:13 PM
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"I don't believe the eight women on the jury"
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:37 PM
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That's true in most of the famous cases that even MRAs that I see end up saying were rape. If a woman can't remember that means she was raped. It's not he said / she said. It's just "he said" but a man's word against nothing is still often a conviction.
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:35 PM
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The women, who cannot be named for legal reasons Got to give them a fair chance to accuse the next random man on their TV set
/r/MensRights06/02/14 04:32 PM
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I've never seen a feminist come up with a right men have that women don't -- after talking to thousands of them. They will sometimes try to. The most often cited is that men can vote and women cannot. Yes I realise this is 100 years out of date but honest to god it is number one. The second most often tried is that men have the right to get an abortion and women do not. Yes I realise the exact opposite is true, but it is what they claim. One feminist suggested that only men have the right to sig…
/r/MensRights05/02/14 10:44 PM
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Better.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 10:34 PM
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Male statues should be attractive and non unattractive apparently.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 10:32 PM
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Perhaps they should charge the people who are threatening violence with the need for the additional security -- or just deduct it from the pile of money they give to feminism.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 10:37 PM
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That's the result I'd expect for any oppressed group. Glad to see the research confirms it for men.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 09:01 PM
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Duh. Feminism seeks to mislead people and the imperialists are just their allies. Quid pro quo. Feminism cripples the Left and endorses the wars and keeps the working class divided and distracted. Feminism puts a barrier up between young men and the revolutionary groups that can't function without a lot of young men. In return the imperialists throw a few billion dollars at the movement to keep the women's study set employed, and parrot its shitty hate speech. ETA: I noticed you had no response …
/r/MensRights04/02/14 08:52 PM
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So you couldn't find an example from Congress. So you went with some state governor, who was elected to do that shit by the women of that state. Women who apparently disagree with you that he is anti-woman. But I guess you know better what's good for women than women do, right? So let's assume that you do. let's ignore what women said they want and substitute your knowledge of what's good for them. How is this sexism against women when men already lack the exact same rights? No response about "e…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 08:49 PM
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That thing the US president parroted? Yes. Please explain how in a male dominated world the leader of the country is parroting feminist propaganda. What a joke you people are.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 03:15 PM
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Yawn. PLease explain in your little fantasy world how come Congress keeps passing anti-male legislation and never passes anti-female legislation. The "everyday sexism" site bans comments from men btw. Way to prove what an idiot you are while also proving me right.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 03:14 PM
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And you're just a boring ordinarily bigoted feminist.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 03:12 PM
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He's always done it a little bit. Telling people what they are doing is sexist is what the MRA should be fundamentally addressing. Currently people like this guy often just don't think about equality or believe the feminist propaganda that hatred of men is "equality". How is he expected to learn if nobody corrects him?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 03:10 PM
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Real socialists don't live in a world of denial. Socialism is about real problems not fucked up sexist conspiracy theories put out by a hate movement and parroted by useful idiots. The only "social issue" you named this entire thread? How unfair it is to little rich white women that there aren't more of them in Congress. oh won't someone think of the billionaires?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 06:03 AM
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Any real socialist would rightly see you as enabling the elites by seeking to substitute a fake gender as class for real class issues. The problem with Congress isn't the gender of the representatives but their policies. Policies that benefit the rich over the workers regardless of what's between the legs of the "representatives" Again feminism is a cancer on the left spreading this horse shit. Your complaint is based on the concept that people who are born one way are inherently inferior to oth…
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:31 AM
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He's referring to the feminist cancer on the left which is endorsed largely despite it being a pro-imperialist hate movement. Or doesn't endorsing a political hate movement count as being "anti-male" to you?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:28 AM
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If there were female dominated institutions that made ridiculous claims about men Which there clearly are. For example the wage gap is put out there by many institutions. I can't see how that wouldn't be addressed by most media outlets You expect the corporate media to champion oppressed minorities do you? Some socialist you are.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:26 AM
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Women are the privileged sex so it's feminism which is reactionary.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:23 AM
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You don't understand what that word means; "reactionary". it doesn't mean something that happened in reaction to something else -- which would describe about everything. MRA is a radical movement, whereas feminism is literally sponsored by the imperialist state to the tune of billions of dollars.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:22 AM
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I'm a communist anti-feminist, Close enough?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:19 AM
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Kind of "so what?" it's not even hypocrisy. Now when Betty Friedan used to go around preaching about domestic violence while beating her husband -- that was newsworthy. She even used to sort of half hint to people that he beat up her but the police record said otherwise.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:16 AM
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Maybe she's been reading Warren Farrell who made that point twenty years ago in The Myth of Male Power although he referred to romance novels not movies.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:09 AM
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They include both women and men who are working to improve the lives of women!
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:07 AM
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Remember that kid who slipped his ex-gf some abortifactent to cause her to miscarry? He got 14 years. However of the two it's clear to me that she got about the right time and he was "made an example of" as the judge said.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:04 AM
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What women's issues?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 05:01 AM
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You tell him he's being sexist.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 04:58 AM
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Actually the first thing a feminist will do is abandon defending the original false statement. You don't have to worry about them trying to defend it. In any case it's a simple enough matter to prove the lie. Feminists claim the figure represents a comparison of men and women doing the same work and it isn't. it's simply a comparison of gross averages.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 06:43 AM
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Just once again to explain why this approach to the wage gap hoax is bad. When you confront feminists over their lies they immediately try to backtrack. they back away from the claim that women are paid less for the exact same work and fall back to saying "Oh but they are paid less for different work". Do not let them do this as this article does. If you do then you are letting them get away with deliberately lying. Ask them if they only wanted to present data about women working less than men o…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 02:40 AM
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This article misses the point of the wage gap hoax and in doing so pays into the feminist machine. Instead of saying calmly that the feminist wage gap is a hoax, it tries to explain it away. In doing that it endorses the hoax. Why explain something away if it isn't real? If you do this you are playing the feminist game and just end up helping them. There's only one reason the wage gap is bogus. It's because it's one hundred percent false, totally fictitious based on pure lies hate propaganda. Th…
/r/MensRights03/02/14 02:35 AM
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They didn't have joint rulers.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 02:07 AM
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If so why did Ferdinand claim credit for persuading his wife to do it, and not credit for ordering it himself?
/r/MensRights03/02/14 12:43 AM
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A queen's husband.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 12:21 AM
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It's just hate speech. It's not meant to be rational. It's meant to encourage people to think of men as subhuman brutes and women as superior.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 06:01 PM
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Columbus also sailed under orders from a Queen of course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_I_of_Castile#Columbus_and_Portuguese_relations
/r/MensRights02/02/14 05:32 PM
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What do you mean? It's a hate movement because it does what hate movements do. The phrase "hate movement" has a meaning, and feminism qualifies. In general when someone says "X is a Y" that's what they mean. I'm assuming you know all that so I am not sure what your question was about.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 09:39 PM
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Pretty normal for a feminist.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 06:30 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 06:27 PM
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Yeah i really beleive that. Well some people really are total pacifists but I have never met anyone who demanded that everyone else had to be one.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 04:44 PM
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Yeah that's just not true. Unless by "understanding men" you mean making derogatory characterizations of them as walking penises. But then if you're the one with power you usually can get away with that sort of "understanding".
/r/MensRights31/01/14 04:36 PM
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Does a master need to understand the slave better, or does the slave need to better understand the master?
/r/MensRights30/01/14 10:41 PM
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"equal pay for equal work" is ALWAYS implied. Without it the entire slogan is meaningless. It's what people hear and it's what they are intended to hear.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 08:54 PM
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So, you could accurately say in that Obama ad that, “women get paid 91 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men.” No, that's pure bullshit too. You could say the average women is paid 9% less than the average man when she does less or completely different work from men but are in the same broad profession.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 08:52 PM
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Anyone who hangs out at /r/AskMen for a week would discover women don't understand anything about men either. I don't know of any hard data on whether one sex or other is better at understanding the other. I think women are better at manipulating men, but mainly because men are just told to do what women say anyway. So it doesn't really require a lot of knowledge. On the contrary that set up means men have to understand women more. Why should a woman care what a man is thinking? She doesn't have…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 08:21 PM
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So you wouldn't stop someone stealing $200,000 from you if you had a gun?
/r/MensRights30/01/14 07:41 PM
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It seemed to mostly be an article that would have been better called, "stuff women should do if they don't want to end up divorcing their husband". A lot of that stuff is half tripe and half obvious relationship advice. I didn't think it was sexist but you could make a case that it was sexist "against both sexes". In my mind anything that's sexist both ways isn't really sexist at all.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 11:09 PM
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“These are not easy victims to deal with.” Perhaps because by definition if you're in court, you're the accused, not the victim? Oh well with girls really why bother over that minor detail, eh?
/r/MensRights29/01/14 10:57 PM
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You didn't include a link to the article.
/r/MensRights29/01/14 10:50 PM
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Uh... I think if you believed in what the law was doing you wouldn't say the state was culpable. It's all coloured by what you think of the original issue under consideration. I wonder how this lot would react to a man who kidnapped his own baby and anonymously gave it up for adoption (presumably using a female collaborator to pretend to be the real mother).
/r/MensRights28/01/14 11:26 PM
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You can't be talked to if you won't think. I'm not going to try and carry both sides of this conversation.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 11:20 PM
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This is not the way self defence works and you know this. Your simply expressing a prejudice as if it was a policy you have understood. If you're not going to ever think about what you're saying this is a pointless discussion.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 11:18 PM
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TL/DR: Men do more work, but women are the real victims. Always. Stress. Yep women are so stressed. That's why they die years before men do.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 11:15 PM
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She's the one saying that SHE was sexually harassed and discriminated against. Talk about entitlement.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 11:11 PM
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So you're anti men's rights. It would have been a shorter conversation to simply state that.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:50 PM
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What you are saying is that if an immoral law exists then you should never disobey that immoral law. It's not self defence if the force used is disproportionate to the original attack Yes, it can be. You only have to attempt to minimize the force to the smallest possible to achieve the goals of defence. That was done here. Besides which physical violence would have been used against him to take his money. The CS agency doesn't simply ask and take "no" for an answer.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:49 PM
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Self defence is not a wrong. It is (attempted) elimination of a wrong.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:36 PM
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So if you and your family were going to be murdered and the only way out was to trick someone into taking medication you'd say, nope, "let me and my family die sooner than that!"
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:35 PM
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Defending your rights isn't "nutjob" behaviour unless you make it so by hanging this guy out, to try and make yourselves look good -- which will fail by the way. You'll lose both things.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:32 PM
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Ah sorry. yeah I googled around and forgot the link. which i lost now. try googling the guy's name.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:04 PM
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This article says what he was charged with: Lazzara sentenced him to 13 years and eight months — likely to be served in a minimum-security work camp — on charges of product tampering and conspiracy to commit mail fraud Clearly the sentence bears no relation whatsoever to the charges.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:49 PM
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Forging a prescription seems to be the charge Forging a prescription --- 14 years is about right for that in your view?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:45 PM
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As I said because the sentence length (which was set to about the maximum the judge could by law) is ridiculously long and more the sort of thing for especially grievous forms of murder.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:42 PM
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The way they are defined these days I'd have to say rape was "zero bad" because the most mild form of it is. It depends how you do the comparison. To me when you ask that question what you are asking is, taken as a whole if you strip off extraneous elements that may or may not be part of rape, and the same for false accusation of rape, to get at the lowest common denominator - which is worse? So the most mild rape is eg when a wife wakes her husband up with a blow job on his birthday. That seems…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:40 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:32 PM
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It's interesting to me since I'm not an MRA (rather an antifeminist of some twenty odd years) how -- well cowardly frankly -- the MRAs on topics like this. Feminists in the same position would be campaigning for this guy as a hero. There's no doubt about that they would make this guy a national hero. But you guys condemn him. Why? Because of how it looks? You need to have more courage. Feminists went to bat to defend Valarie Solanas for example, let alone all their more obvious work on defending…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:23 PM
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What charge? The article didn't actually mention one did it?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:22 PM
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.... for if he'd committed mass murder.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:21 PM
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One of the moderators decided to ban this whole topic / issue and deleted a thread already discussing this with a lot of comments on it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1wdhqh/man_sentenced_to_13_years_eight_months_for/
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:20 PM
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Ah yes the anonymous moderator system.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:16 PM
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Where is that statement quoted from btw?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:08 PM
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Yep. Cowardly.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:07 PM
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No I didn't bother to save the old site. Some of the quotes might float around on an even older site I had once.... basically just go to the library and dig out old books on the topic. Like early 1900s. They lied a bit less back then. At the time I was picking a label for myself, (which was necessary) "anti-feminist" was a very specific name for a specific task and approach. While it obviously overlaps a lot with men's rights arguments and factoids, it's not the same goal. There was some debate …
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:49 PM
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Jesus christ it isn't fraud. Not every crime that involves an element of misdirection is "fraud". Words have meanings. Good grief. Thank you for admitting you were wrong and talking bullshit when you said you can't use lethal force against a non-lethal threat. I think that's as far as I'm going with your crazy ass.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:26 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying there. I'm told a lot of MRAs are against this guy because they are pro-life, and so they don't consider he ought to have any right to not be a parent simply because he had sex. Since they don't support the right, they don't see him as defending his rights here. It's not specifically because they value the foetus more; it's because they don't think there's any right that the man is defending here. Just as someone who believed in slavery might condemn the slave by …
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:11 PM
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Abortifactents aren't lethal. The fact that the woman was defrauded She obviously wasn't. That would imply she had her rights violated instead of being the one violating his. fraud also implies some sort of trickery into voluntarily giving something up. This was a simple case of poisoning technically, albeit with a harmless substance. And no, using lethal force as a response to a "severe" threat is not a justification So if someone is beating you up you can't defend yourself with a gun? Well tha…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:46 PM
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Slavery is OK because -- well slaves could always beg their masters to use the whip less, right?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:08 PM
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He didn't use lethal force; nobody died. You are also allowed to use lethal force to defend yourself against a severe non-lethal threat. It doesn't violate proportionality if you don't have the choice to use non-lethal means. But as I say, he didn't use lethal force.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:07 PM
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No he set a bad example, that's why the punishment was so high. What if all men figured they deserved rights?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:02 PM
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Your opinion is that men deserve no reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:58 PM
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These are not options for him. They are all options only for her. What part of "legal right" do you not get? Begging someone else to go easy on you is not a legal right.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:57 PM
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He could have tried to convince her to have an abortion Oh gosh I bet he never tried that. </sarcasm> He had no option to uphold his right to determine his own parenthood except the action he took.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:56 PM
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It's a similar issue to a slave killing his mistress in his pursuit of freedom It seems like in the terms of this analogy, many of the MRAs are pro-slavery and therefore would condemn the slave who seeks their freedom.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:55 PM
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You have a legal right to defend yourself and others from attack. The mother attacked his rights no less than if she had held him up at gunpoint and demanded his money. What is gray about that statement?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:51 PM
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That only makes sense to say if you are pro-life. if you would also charge the mother with murder if she had tried to do the same thing. If that is how you feel then that is consistent. However this is not the position of the law. The law is inconsistent and says if the father does it then it is murder, but if the mother does it then it is her right.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:48 PM
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And feminists agree with that -- for men. But not for women.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:46 PM
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A man has (or ought to have) reproductive rights simply because he is a human being. ETA: A person has no duty to perform an act which violates his own rights obviously, so no he doesn't have a duty to be a father.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:32 PM
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Adoption is only an option for the mother -- like all the other options.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:28 PM
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He'd probably have got less if he'd just murdered his girlfriend.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:27 PM
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Because feminists are successful.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:25 PM
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I thought you were saying that the woman had to REALLY be defending herself, as used to be the case before feminists campaigned for legalized murder.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:25 PM
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I can praise their dedication while being against the movement itself. Compared to feminists MRAs are pussies a lot of the time. I took some balls to defend a crazy woman who shot a man for no reason, but they did it. If you want to win, you got to fight at some point.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:24 PM
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In many states the law says that if you cause the death of an unborn foetus you will be charged with murder -- unless you're the mother having an abortion, or a doctor performing an abortion with the mother's consent. Many young men have been charged with murder for carrying out abortions on their girl friend at her request for example. These laws are associated with the Pro-Life lobby.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:19 PM
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I bet if the husband in that Texas case of the dead woman who is pregnant, had come in and attacked the corpse so as to end the pregnancy - they would have charged him with murder too.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:13 PM
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No. I am asking people to agree with what he did (see argument elsewhere). I think this is a discussion that ought to be had. This issue is being run away from.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:11 PM
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He wasn't charged with making an illegal abortion. They charged him with murder I think didn't they (initially)?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:09 PM
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No, women can just murder their husbands without being threatened at the time and call it self defence these days. This case was the first result (when I did a quick Google) but there's probably hundreds by now. This happened because feminists championed such women and changed the laws. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Barbara-Sheehan-Husband-Murder-Gun-Charge-Prison-212494911.html Prosecutors painted a different picture of the family. They said Barbara Sheehan was a manipulator and a liar, …
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:06 PM
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It seemed like a public lynching for an uppity slave. The sentence was harsh to make sure the other slaves don't get no funny ideas.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:02 PM
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It's interesting to me since I'm not an MRA (rather an antifeminist of some twenty odd years) how -- well cowardly frankly -- the MRAs on topics like this. Feminists in the same position would be campaigning for this guy as a hero. There's no doubt about that they would make this guy a national hero. But you guys condemn him. Why? Because of how it looks? You need to have more courage. Feminists went to bat to defend Valarie Solanas for example, let alone all their more obvious work on defending…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 05:46 PM
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There were a lot of other avenues available Name one.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 05:38 PM
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It seems to me that this boy's act was justified as a form of self-defence. The state in collaboration with his girlfriend were forcing him into parenthood and its subsequent implications and duties, and he had an absolute right to defend himself against that. He did so in the least violent manner available to him. He could have attacked her with a baseball bat as others have done. His response was proportionate to the threat. It's not just the money, but let's limit it to that. If someone held …
/r/MensRights28/01/14 05:30 PM
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Those are separate crimes. There is no crime about lying about someone. All you can do is sue. Filing a false police report What if they didn't file a police report? They could just go around accusing someone of rape but never go to the police. They could get a man thrown out of college that way or get him fired and blacken his name without ever going to the police. Of course we know the police almost never charge anyone with the stuff you suggested but the fact is she doesn't need to take even …
/r/MensRights28/01/14 04:53 PM
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The only difference is the radfems are more honest about it (hating men). They all beelive the same sexist bigoted shit; some just aren't ashamed to admit it.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 08:01 AM
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I know right? It's like I have so much money people are always bothering me asking to borrow some and it's practically impossible to count it all. I'm such a victim and there's no way to stop it happening.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:58 AM
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I don't know of any laws against falsely accusing someone of rape except libel which is a civil matter, not a crime. There is no criminal law to enforce.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 07:47 AM
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This sort of sexism is to be expected sadly. What part of "oppressed minority" are you missing if you think otherwise? He wouldn't dare to attack the rights of any other group but men? They are fair game.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 02:09 PM
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What part of "oppressed minority" do these MRAs not comprehend. Occupational hazard. I recall when you couldn't go a month without hearing about another men's rights web site being wiped out by some feminist falsely accusing them of raping her to their IP or some such. Backup regularly. Those were the days. Of course all the discrimination must be noted and objected. But it's in no way a surprise. I think I was banned from the Guardian's comments too, long time ago.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 08:07 PM
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It's because in more advanced countries there's enough money for a significant population of women to have their economic needs met without working or while working less. As a result they don't feel the need to pursue dollars and instead are empowered to either do no paid work or do work that emphasises life goals and self actualization not money. Since men don't have that freedom in either type of country men and women end up looking more similar in 3rd world countries.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 06:45 AM
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I think it is a question of national priide. Other countries easily beat Norway on this issue including many that must seem very "backward". As a country becomes more advanced generally the gap gets bigger, not smaller. So either Norway is just incredibly crap and a total failure at gender equality, or the issue is a myth. Which explanation feels better to the country?
/r/MensRights05/01/14 09:43 PM
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WTF is "benevolent sexism"? Sounds like some bigoted feminist shit. Why would we use that sort of phrase here? From what i can gather it is a hate speech phrase used by feminists to say that when women are treated better by a man the man is really being an evil asshole. So it's basically just another way of saying all men are rapists. Why the hell would anyone on this board use such a phrase?
/r/MensRights05/01/14 09:37 PM
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something like 20% of women are feminists something like 80% of women support sex equality therefore something like 60% of women at a minimum think that dictionary definition is pure bullshit, and it's even higher a proportion of men http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-womens-movement-worthwhile/ http://www.gallup.com/poll/6715/feminism-whats-name.aspx http://feministing.com/2013/03/18/new-poll-finds-the-majority-of-women-voters-…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 09:17 PM
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The attack on "nice guys" is the feminist way of saying "all men are evil". IE there's no such thing as a nice guy. All men are evil assholes manipulative rapists trying to get something. The image is hate propaganda.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:25 PM
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Can you tell me one part of what Nazis stand for that you agree with? In the spirit of showing us how you would go about finding common ground I mean. Common ground is always a valuable thing
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:23 PM
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You're defending feminist hate. If that's what you feel you have to do to associate with feminists then, yes, you can't be an MRA too. I talk to feminists all the time but I don't pretend that they are for equality or stroke their egos. i don't feel i have to agree with them.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:21 PM
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Feminist ideals are very popular with women on the whole About one in five women say they are feminists. Four out of five reject feminism. Even fewer men say they are feminists (although few people bother to ask men so there's less polling data).
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:17 PM
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if health care doesn't extend life span what is it's purpose?
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:14 PM
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Real feminism isn't man hating, it's equal rights for everyone Funny because I just was looking on a rape crisis center page which said it was specifically feminist so it only helped women never men. But I expect your nice feminist pals also run a national rape crisis center that's much bigger and isn't sexist, right? feminists can be women's rights and not hate men But they aren't,. They could be but they actually are all about hating men just like the Nazis could be about racial equality but t…
/r/MensRights04/01/14 12:00 AM
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It's an intentionally bigoted organiztion From their about us: why women and girls? Rape Crisis (England and Wales) is proud to call itself a feminist organisation. Rape Crisis Centres offer services by women for women and girls because, throughout our 40 years' experience of frontline work, this is what women and girls have told us they want and value. The majority of generic and statutory services and spaces are gender-neutral so it's important to us that we protect and maintain our safe women…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 11:56 PM
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Men die earlier but because women's health gets four times more funding FTFY
/r/MensRights03/01/14 11:46 PM
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Should we reach out to Nazis too? How about the KKK? These friends of yours are voluntarily associating themselves with a movement that is based on anti-male hate. They are basically telling you that you need to endorse that hate by endorsing them as OK. I am saying that no, we shouldn't endorse hate. You can reach out to a Nazi or a feminist as a person, but not as a Nazi or as a feminist. You have to say that what they are identifying with is NOT cool. They do NOT get a pass. They ARE being ra…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 10:51 PM
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Condemning a whole group of people because the loud majority are assholes is wrong. Then you're wrong for doing that to Nazis. If feminists did that to us, there would be outrage "if" ? Feminists do that to all men let alone MRAs and anti-feminists. This is the same fucking mentality that paints all Muslims as terrorists No it's like saying all people in the IRA or in some other terrorist group are terrorists. Grow the fuck up and treat each feminist as am individual. Why dont you treat all Nazi…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:52 PM
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institutionalized sexism again women exists For example?
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:28 PM
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I would imagine there's a ton of pressure to conform to feminism in her position, so as to earn the right to be called a woman. OTOH given the attacks she must have suffered from feminists, and the rejections, she's in an emotional place to question the ideology. Careful path indeed. Although none of that makes any difference to whether her ideas are valid or not. It just helps explain why it's such a mixed bag.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:26 PM
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if even a few feminists who aren't "Nazis" see it They are all Nazis. What you really mean is that some Nazis aren't that bad. But that misses the point. Yes, Nazis are people too, but they are people who really fucked other people up because of their evil beliefs.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:15 PM
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Women will band together by default and attempt to shield one another from the 'wickedness of men' ie women are more likely to be sexist bigots
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:11 PM
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Women aren't the enemy Women aren't feminists. Apparently your dialogue didn't teach you even that much.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:10 PM
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"intellectual coherence" Does she mean feminist irrational dogma? The closest the MRAs come to that is that a lot are Libertarians. Feminism has "intellectual coherence" like Phrenology used to have. And then as the author stated, what coherence they do have (Mary Daly etc) they spend half their time protesting they don't have.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:09 PM
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One thing is that teachers treat boys worse and as lesser and the kids pick up on this. Boys are graded worse by female (but not male) teachers and kids of both sex think (and it's true) that adults consider girls better than boys from a very early age. I also think that boys are punished and criminalized far more. Girls get away with stuff and boys are punished - again both sexes know this. It's basically an apartheid situation.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:53 PM
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Stats seem a bit dodgy. makes me wonder how "below average" was defined and whether far fewer men were judged below average because it's hard to see how those numbers work otherwise, but if that is the case it's a bit apples and oranges comparison.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:46 PM
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This is like saying people shit and people breath, so shitting and breathing are the same thing.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:40 PM
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Again, you have nothing.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:39 PM
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If she is representative of "women in tech" I think I see the problem; she's an idiot.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:38 PM
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So no actual basis? Currently what you are saying is akin to saying people breath and people shit so shitting and breathing is the same thing. You're being ridiculous but you can't even see there's a problem.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 05:33 PM
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I'm not seeing any sort of argument from anyone. because there isn't one.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 09:09 PM
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So you got nothing?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 09:08 PM
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Close ideologies but you can't actually point to anything they have in common?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:43 PM
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Even ignoring the fact that patriarchy doesn't actually exist (being a hate movement's conspiracy theory) I don't see any relationship between them at all. Or are you saying that any group that is about abolishing something is all the same.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:42 PM
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Why were most abolitionists White?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:40 PM
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The title seems to be a misrepresentation of this sentence, The majority of those sentenced to death by stoning are women. Women suffer disproportionately from such punishment. So women aren't stoned more, it is claiming they are sentenced to be stoned (but not actually stoned) more. I rather doubt that is true either, but certainly that contradicts the title of the article. I doubt it is true because of this sentence: They are particularly vulnerable to unfair trials because they are more likel…
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:37 PM
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So you can't make any case on the basis of what the words actually mean?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:26 PM
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On what basis then?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:18 PM
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You're not a socialist if you dedicate your life to spreading hate as you do.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 03:18 PM
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Since when have MRAs claimed that men have institutional power in the 2nd meaning? Since when have feminist said that women have power in the first meaning? On the contrary MRAs are always saying men lack institutional power - because it's true, and feminist would never admit to women having any kind of power. This idea that the two groups have different ideas of power and that solved the differences is stupid. There isn't even much difference between the two 'different" definitions since to hav…
/r/MensRights31/12/13 06:47 PM
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Your "logic" appears to go no further than saying feminism I don't like, Marxism i don't like, therefore they are the same thing.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 06:42 PM
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When the hell has Warren Farrell said such a thing?
/r/MensRights31/12/13 06:28 PM
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Usual fucked up libertarian nonsense saying Marxism is "anything I don't like". Marxism actually has a meaning.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 06:27 PM
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Nope.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 03:38 PM
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It's not a socialist subreddit but a feminist one; they will ban you. Same at /r/anarchism and most of the others. Even some of the "debate" ones will ban you if you criticise feminism. So far the only ones I didn't get banned from immidiately (or in some cases faster than immediately) were /r/DebateAnarchism and /r/DebateACommunist
/r/MensRights31/12/13 03:36 PM
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The ratio seems to be a thing. But my own guess is that it is illusionary in that there are more FTMs out there than we are seeing but that for whatever reason they are not representing themselves as FTM on surveys. However i would agree with the article that the reason that so many FTMs don't see the need to identify as such is societal. My guess is that "women" have so many more options for expressing their sexuality in different ways that are acceptable (or more acceptable than those who appe…
/r/MensRights28/12/13 06:39 PM
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And yet the first three victims they mention by name are all women. The fourth and last is probably a man. I'm shocked it's only 87% though. What is the percentage of male prisoners in local jails in the first place? ETA: yeah it says the death rate is about the same for men and women-- it;'s just that there's so many more men arrested and left to rot in jail without bothering to convict them than women. In the 12 years in the report men were more likely to die in ten of the twelve years and it …
/r/MensRights28/12/13 06:18 PM
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I don't particularly think you're a coward. I think you realise that sticking around to answer question would show you as a bigot and so sensibly, you decide it's better to presumed to be sexist than open your mouth and prove it beyond doubt.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:30 PM
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Male victims comprised a small percentage of our callers So were you a bigoted organization that discouraged male rape victims or what was the reason you had so few male clients? If that is not the case then please tell me about what steps you were actively taking to encourage more male victims to use your services since you evidently were not reaching them. And most (but not all) of us considered ourselves feminists That answers my question; you didn't do a damn thing to reach out to men did yo…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:24 PM
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There aren't. I've seen theories on why there are so many fewer and the best sense to my mind is that "women" have so many more options than men in how they express themselves that people who would otherwise identify as FTM transsexuals may often choose one of those other many options. By contrast the male role in our society is so rigid that MTF transsexuals have a lot more impetus to take the big step of identifying themselves in a specific way.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 11:16 PM
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You seem to think emotional manipulation and victim Olympics will work here.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 08:25 PM
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There's a lot of points in common between men and slaves; men are the "slave sex" if you will but this is an analogy. You do know what an analogy is? The government is male-dominated And yet millions more women vote than men. When men are in power it benefits women over men. That is why women have so much privilege in our society, including the privilege to pretend to be victims and force everyone to take that seriously.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:58 PM
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Slavery hurts black people too.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:22 PM
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Wont work. Feminists hate to debate.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:03 PM
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Good points.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 06:02 PM
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Don't ever be in the same room with them alone and never talk to them if you can possibly help it. Make a list of sexist things they say and do in a diary.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:59 PM
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it would be better if the next scene was the feminist having the MRA hauled off by cops for raping her.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:57 PM
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But it garnered a lot of negative attention No such thing.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:54 PM
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Might want to upvote the bot since the main text was deleted......
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:47 PM
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Are you going to apologise for your role in encouraging all the other false rape reports?
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:46 PM
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The introduction says men all hate women and brutalise them but she's not anti-male because she says we can't really help it.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 05:03 PM
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You didn't. My entire life I have had shit like that handed to me because I am a man. I'm totally used to it. I ought to be upset but as a man I cannot express emotions like that because I'd be punished for it. This is not about emotions. This is about treating people decently.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:46 PM
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That's odd. The standard myth for the "rule of thumb" dates it to merry old England not Rome. Extra points for mentioning Blackstone to sound more scholarly. I've never heard a version of the conspiracy theory that mentioned Rome.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:38 PM
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and we can all work together When have feminists EVER worked to help men? Feminists constantly work to attack men because they hate men. That's why they hate trans women too, because they have the smell of men on them. Like the Nazis hated people who were half Jewish. They will always think of you as a man because you confuse them over who to hate.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:22 PM
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I bet they didn't want to linger too much on that thought! well done.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:15 PM
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Why don't men respond by saying Because they don't have any power. Why don't you women say it? You're the ones with the power. You're the ones who are allowed to complain even about stuff that benefits you. Nobody's going to think less of you for complaining. When feminists try to change our end of a double standard I don't understand why men don't follow suit and change their end too Because you have the power and privilege and we don't. It's the same reason slaves didn't say to slave masters, …
/r/MensRights19/12/13 11:14 PM
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Feminists "black friend" is almost always their husband.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:51 PM
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They are also all feminists Gee it's so shocking that feminists would see everything through the lens of men being evil assholes and women being victims. Duh. That's what feminist hate is all about.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:44 PM
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When I look at Men's Rights blogs I so rarely see analysis of race, class, or orientation Because MRAs are not a hate movement but a movement about legitimate claims and issues. Feminism is a hate movement that co-opts the legitimacy of genuinely disadvantaged minority groups for PR purposes. I do think men's anger is justified If you did then you would not be a feminist. Women are used to hiding their anger See? Just more feminist bullshit. Women are far freer about being able to express emotio…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:43 PM
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I don't know a single feminist, except maybe the radical ones, who would discourage men from taking up child-care Please tell me about all the laws that feminists have passed to encourage men in this field. It's practically impossible for a man to get a job in this sort of field. I'm calling you on your bullshit. Frankly everyone would be if you were not transsexual. They feel you have had a hard enough time of it already, which I agree with. But then you did ask to be treated as responsibly as …
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:37 PM
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I've lurked Men's Rights forums and websites for over a year now But it seems you have learned very little. What would you say you have learned? You're parroting feminist myth and anti-male propaganda still. Hate speech.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:31 PM
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it's the every day experience of not being taken seriously that most woman I know complain about the most. This is 100% bullshit. My wife says she can't do anything with a computer so that I have to do the work for her. I of course say I can't even cook toast to solidify my power to make her do all the cooking. So we both do it, but we both know what's going on. Apparently you do not. If women wanted to be taken seriously they would demand the duties and responsibilities that come with those sil…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:29 PM
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Peddling blame and guilt. I am not telling you to stop doing it Agree; except I sure as fuck am telling her to stop doing it.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:15 PM
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I don't think you gave any example of male privilege. What you did was exhibit your female privilege. You came in here strutting your victimhood (as you see it) to people you are helping to attack, and you demanded that your victims bow down to you and apologise. That's huge privilege there. And you didn't even realise you were doing it did you? You see everything through your own point of view (feminism) and that colours your vision. For example you bitched at us that you now feeeeeeeel unsafe …
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:01 PM
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I'm sorry but you haven't been polite at all. You had a polite form of words but you came here knowing that it is a forum for the victims of feminism and you said you were a feminist and said the victims should shut the fuck up about their being victimised and endorse their attackers. That is not polite. It is abusive victim denialism. This is an example of that kind of emotional nuance I keep talking about And yet you cannot even see that your entire purpose here is the same thing times one tho…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:49 PM
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I know, a lot of people in feminism know, we're trying to do something about it Why the fuck should your victims shut the fuck up about your movements hatred and sexism? I don't give a shit if you're "trying" although frankly I doubt you are. Feminists hate you for being trans and you know it. If you don't have the self-respect to stand up against them you sure wont stand up against them for other people. You have no moral basis for making any demands of your movements' victims; they have a mora…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:23 PM
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Many women have been encouraged by movies, television and peers to use their looks and talents to please and attract men if a woman does that to you that does NOT count as sexual harassment however, and does NOT count as them being "sexually explicit or aggressive" because women can't sexually harass, hahaha. Silly men, rights are for women.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:09 PM
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I'd have to record several hundred entries if I did that. Wouldn't it be easier to list places that don't ban? Which is to say, basically none of them. Having said that I haven't been banned from /r/DebateAnarchism yet and it's been a couple of weeks. Probably this is because it's not really a feminist board as such, but they are working on trying to get me banned. Back in the early 1990s the feminist movement on-line was struggling with the conflict between the desire to project a fake image of…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:06 PM
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Yeah, that's not true. This sort of fuck you men, equality doesn't mean you, clause, is getting pretty common, and is understood to mean what it means. All you'd have to do is point out that when debating the issue Congress clearly only meant for women, and not men, to benefit and therefore the first sentence is limiting it to benefit women only, just as is often the law already in the USA.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:17 PM
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remove "redheads" from the sentence and try it again.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:11 PM
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Feminism has always been anti-male. Malala Yousafzai why do you think she is a feminist?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 11:12 PM
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If it's not their board then feminists (after a call for censorship) would refuse to respond other than with insults.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:12 PM
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I did not know feminism was considered so poorly here, honestly from your OP: when I look at your sidebar and the general attitude of this sub, it seems very hostile towards feminism. and this "war" between MR and feminism
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:11 PM
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I did not know feminism was considered so poorly here, honestly Then why did you say you wanted to get away from the feminist vs MRA fight? if you didn't know there was one to get away from? You could have simply started reading and never mentioned you considered yourself to be a feminist.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:09 PM
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No debate is allowed on feminist boards.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:07 PM
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How about "we need to teach boys not to rape" is that extremist?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:57 PM
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I am pointing out you cam in here hot and ready to aggravate people.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:56 PM
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I think you can't contest them nor any feminist. You're proving that right.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:55 PM
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I could go point by point I don't think you could. That's kind of the whole point isn't it? Truth will out. I am not here for that. Then why did you start off by saying you were an enemy -- a feminist? Why make that hated word your starting introduction? and what are you here for? Not to discuss any pragmatic solution to those issues of course because none exist. That is the nature of those fake "issues" of the privileged. They could all be solved simply and easily by the privileged giving up th…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:51 PM
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Bullshit. if you wanted empathy the last thing you'd have done was say you're a feminist.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:44 PM
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So if a feminist says all men are potential rapists they are a moderate in your view?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:43 PM
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What about "all men are potential rapists"
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:28 PM
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The disparity of women in positions of power 99.99% of men are not in power and the same is true of women. What disparity? You're quoting what is called the "Frontman fallacy". The pretense that if one man is in charge it somehow means all men are. In reality men in power treat women better than other men. The disparity of women in STEM fields Women are doing far better on education to the point of almost a crisis in our society and you want even more favouritism for them? Women go into STEM les…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:20 PM
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But "radical" here means "honest" and "outspoken" not that they actually believe anything different. Like a radical would say all men are rapists and a "moderate" would keep quiet and maybe agree that "all men are potential rapists" if the topic came up. It's the same set of beliefs, just the volume is different.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:03 PM
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Conversely feminists don't care about even women's rights, any more than the KKK help White people.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 04:49 PM
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I care about women's issues Like what? Give me an example that isn't a hateful anti-male myth spread by feminists. Feminism is an anti-male hate movement. When you come here claiming to be a feminist it's like you are going to a board on race equality saying you're with the KKK. Understand? That's what you did here. You can discuss here as long as you want whether you hate men or not -- feminists censor, decent people don't -- but if you don't want to "get involved in a war" maybe the first word…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 04:47 PM
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I think it is brilliant. Great work. If you wanted to address some of the objections maybe change "tell cars to stop hitting us" to "tell drunk drivers to not hit us", but I think it's just fine as it is. ETA: can i use it?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:25 AM
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Feminism hates trans people for the same reason the Nazis hated halfcastes -- groups that want to divide people by birth and hate one side, don't like people who blur the dividing line. Trans people blur the dividing line for feminists. Are they supposed to hate the person like a man, or defend them like a woman? The end result is almost always to hate the people who blur the difference because they are resented for making it appear as if there maybe isn't that much of a difference as the haters…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 06:09 AM
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Why do you ask btw?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:54 AM
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Like whether they support sex segregation is domestic violence shelters. Honestly if they are at all active as a feminist and you just give them enough rope they usually hang themselves. They'll fall back to victim blaming ("patriarchy hurts men too") or express that feminism is only about women ("there's nothing stopping you passing laws to help men") or they will be anti-choice for men while being pro-choice for women (and unable to explain the discrepancy). if they work for a shelter or crisi…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 05:53 AM
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LOL. You're obviously new here. You're wrong about communism and you're mostly wrong about feminism (it's worse).
/r/MensRights13/12/13 09:39 PM
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All feminists that I've run into, spare a few crazies, are all pretty agreeable people who want equality for men too. So they are all fighting against the bigots who run their movement then? Oh? They're not? Not at all? Show me a so-called "nice" feminist and I'll show you why they are an asshole in a few questions typically. None of them want equality. There's a big difference between saying it and doing it. Saying it is purely to defend themselves.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 09:31 PM
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I'd like to hear actual points then address the ones you already got
/r/MensRights10/12/13 04:18 PM
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What if the biggest problem was really that people constantly try and dismiss real differences with messages of fake "reconciliation" like this one? Oh you Jews need to just cool it with that anti-Nazi rhetoric. Not all Nazis are bad! It's just the extremists! Is that what you'd have said? People like you always pretend to be neutral but in reality you take the side of the unjust and the powerful against their victims. That's because the powerful don't need any sympathy or justice to win, all th…
/r/MensRights10/12/13 12:33 AM
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But this is not alimony or child support. I'm sure she'll get him for those things too.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:27 AM
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Probably would have been called rapists by Anonymous or something.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:23 AM
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This article apparently has no knowledge of the history of the magazine, Playboy and cutting edge gender issues. It's just a very dumb juvenile article, but I guess Playboy is just being used as a proxy for male sexuality here and as feminists constantly attack it, so they attack Playboy and pornography in general. They attacked Viagra for the same reason. It's all about criminalizing male sexuality and often spills over into being simply anti-sex altogether. Not so much these days I gather, but…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:14 AM
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Feminists hate men. Therefore they hate the idea of a "nice guy" and seek to explain to women that there is no such thing as a nice guy. All men are evil. Period. The best way to do this is to explain how a guy whom may appear to be nice is really an evil asshole. That's why feminists attack "nice guys".
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:06 AM
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But you should also know that in the USA more men are raped (probably) even without prison rape, and that there may be more women rapists than male rapists (we just don't know).
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:50 PM
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They didn't give a figure for the proportion of female attackers of men who were "raped" did they? Oh you're right they did. Now isn't that very interesting. They left those victims off the charts because they were too small to be significant, but they didn't have a problem reporting a percentage subset of what they claimed was an insignificant minority when it suited them, and they even gave that bogus figure a higher prominence than significant results. I hadn't noticed that before but that is…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:43 PM
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Legally speaking most of what that survey counted as rape ("drunk rape" and attempted rape) is not rape either. And also I don't think any US state or the feds do define rape as something that happens only to women, although other countries like the UK do.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:34 PM
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The feminists have had this pointed out to them for three years now and just now they pretend to be shocked?
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:19 PM
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LMAO. This from an organisation so bigoted they pretend men can't be raped by women. Hysterically this bigoted definition of rape is their "defence" in many cases in this reply, when they should be utterly ashamed of it. I wont bother dealing with those aspects of their argument that are based on outrageous bigotry. The best response there is simply to point out their bigotry, and their total lack of shame for it. It comes down to two arguments they make. Both rather silly. (1) While it is true …
/r/MensRights06/12/13 06:00 PM
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"prisoners and ex-offenders"
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:22 PM
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A procrustean egalitarian (making people equal by making women lose their rights). It's better to just remind the asshole women with the anti-male signs on the "pro-choice" side that if they were really for choice they would be for choice for men as well as women.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:43 PM
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"Elevating discomfort to discrimination" was the entire achievement of 1980s feminism in creating sexual harassment law. I do agree that it mocks the intent of anti-discrimination law, but coming from a feminist it's an absurdly lacking in self-awareness comment. In any case she was charged with sexual harassment not discrimination per se, so they actually only elevated discomfort to the level of discomfort. That does mock the intention of sexual harassment of course, but only because the intent…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:28 PM
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I'm talking about the last ten thousand years.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:37 PM
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They kinda looked the other way on the other student dancer with him though. Wonder what sex that other student was?
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:09 PM
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Nope little girls were all taught light textiles (spinning, tapestry, weaving etc) from a young age and little boys were not but it was still men who invented stuff in the textile industry (that we know of). Flying shuttlecock? Man. Spinning Jenny? Man.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 04:38 PM
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Don't really know why but it is true. For ten thousand years almost, women had one industry they dominated completely ; light industrial textiles (spinning, making cloth, making items from the cloth). During that time almost no advances were made (exception: spinning wheel invented around 14th century) and the few we do know who did them were by men (eg. spinning jenny). Compare that to any other (male dominated) industry over the same period.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 04:35 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. While I agree that many feminists are on this boat, myself and many other feminists are not Why are you in a boat with hatemongers if you're not in agreement with them? That means you are helping them spread hate just by identifying with them. You're part of the problem.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:40 PM
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It's just a way to shut down criticism of feminist sexism and hate. Feminists pretend to care about other groups to avoid criticism. The truth is they are a hate movement and have lobbied for discrimination against men.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:23 PM
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I wonder if the reason is that it's worth money for a woman to pay to improve her appearance, and not for a man?
/r/MensRights01/12/13 01:43 AM
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Well if you're coming here to ask if it's unique, yep that's not a position I have ever heard before. There are elements of MRA-like stuff and elements of anti-feminist stuff, elements of civil rights and conservative stuff, even some feminist stuff in there. So I would say there's a good chance it is his or her own thoughts and not copied from anyone else's.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 07:27 PM
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The Canadian Charter of Rights doesn't apply to men. Read section 15(2). Men are the class it's always OK to discriminate against according to Canadian law.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 07:21 PM
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No I am not.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 07:18 PM
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I think not. Ever been married?
/r/MensRights29/11/13 02:21 PM
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I wonder what was going through the authors mind writing this stuff? Don't say, "false rape accusation". Don't say, "false rape accusation". Don't say, "false rape accusation". Don't say, "false rape accusation". Don't say, "false rape accusation".
/r/MensRights29/11/13 05:33 AM
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Laugh out loud ridiculously obviously false. Anyone with common sense can see that those stats are absurd. if women are 2/3rd of the working hours that means they work twice the hours men work. So what is that? men work 50 hours a week and women work 100 a week? Are women working 20 hours a day and nobody noticed? Or is it that women work 40 hours and men only work 20? men work 4 hours and then take a half day? And 10% of the income for double the work? So someone it is claiming that women are p…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 05:31 AM
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Claimed men were less likely to get stopped and frisked within first few seconds. Switched off after that. Men are more than ten times more likely to be stop and frisked.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:53 AM
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That would be illegal. But you know - actually enforced.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:43 AM
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Men do prefer more balanced careers. Men don't get a choice.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:36 AM
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No more obvious a sign of entitled narcissism than rich white girls lecturing anyone else about privilege.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:46 PM
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Women never die in movies. if the woman is seen in at least three scenes won't die unless entire film is to revenge her death or it is a horror movie (death of women more "horrific") By contrast several films have hundreds of men dying in them. My own modification of his test would be to ask if the film kills any uninteresting women vs uninteresting men. Farrel's wasn't really a test but an observation that this thing never happened (at the time).
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:30 PM
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Any death. His point was women never die. At the time he said no exceptions but since then I've seen i think two or three movies that violate this rule (in 20 years).
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:27 PM
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IE hardly any women die in wars or of cancer at 45.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:11 PM
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"Everyday sexism" bans and deletes entries showing sexism against men.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:10 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement so it has to censor all critics. If you said anything questioning feminism or suggesting men could be victims or women might not be -- you are banned.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:08 PM
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Because of the hatred against men and the campaign to make male victims disappear that feminism has run for decades there's very little measurement of male sexual victims. This is intentional. The NISVS (published by the CDC) says it is the ONLY national level professional survey to ask men if they were raped. Actually they refused to classify the male rape victims as "raped" because of their bigotry, but they did ask if they were forced by someone else to have sex against their will and called …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:06 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. They always censor and refuse to debate because debate and rationalism don't work for them. Sometimes some feminist will forget that and try to talk here but they run away when they get their (rhetorical) ass kicked by all the evidence they can't say anything about. Free speech just doesn't help hate movements. That's why there's no feminist board anywhere on the internet that allows debate of feminism.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:01 PM
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It's hate speech.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:59 PM
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LOL, yeah that web site where they list movies is always full of them breaking their own set of rules, "oh that doesn't count" etc etc. It's pathetic. Just another indication of female privilege that the far superior test by Farrell that preceded Bechdel is unknown.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:57 PM
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Farrell introduced a sort of test for movies many years before the Dykes to Watch Out For cartoon strip. (Is that name right?) He based it on male vs female disposability. Said that a female character will NEVER die in a movie if she appears in at least 3 scenes with two exceptions (1) the entire movie is about revenging her death and (2) it's a horror movie. At the time he claimed zero exceptions to this rule of women never dying. Since then I have seen a few, but it's very easy to make such ru…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:56 PM
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She was charged with perverting the course of justice Not charged with making a false rape accusation -- there is no such crime. She is not considered to have wronged the victim, but the police, essentially by wasting their time. The same issue would apply even if she had not named a specific victims with malicious intent. The same issue would have applied if she'd lied about having her (eg) purse stolen. The issue would never arise had the woman merely lied about her ex boyfriend raping her to …
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:08 PM
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Feminists lie. When they claim to represent men's problems ask them what the feminist movement has done for men. Ask them why the feminist movement lobbies to take away men's civil rights. Feminism is more about attacking men even than it is about helping women. The usual example I offer is the 1994 VAWA which is a law all feminist groups supported and made it illegal to offer help to male victims of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 12:34 AM
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It's because feminism is a hate movement so there's a big issue of men and feminism. Feminism says the men must hate themselves (as in the SCUM manifesto). There are two types of male feminist and they seem about 50-50 in my experience between the two types. The first accepts that he is a piece of shit slave for the real feminists, a piece of shit male who can do nothing right except lecture his fellow pieces of shit on being better slaves. He is the "turd man" from the SCUM manifesto. He doesn'…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 12:30 AM
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It amazes me that it amazes you. Feminism is a hate movement. If a so-called "feminist" supports men then she isn't a feminist. I say "she" btw because all these dissident feminists (Sommers, Young, LaFramboise, Patai, Paglia, McElroy) are female except possibly Warren Farrel I suppose. There is one other way you can get called out as not-feminist and that is if you are pro-life but it's not nearly as certain (or abusive) an excommunication.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 12:18 AM
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Adams reply was to ridicule the idea and talk about the tyranny of the petticoats.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 11:56 PM
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Candian Charter of Human Rights says: 15. (1) Uhuh. And what does 15. (2) say? I'll be it says something like "except men - fuck them - you can exclude men all you like because they suck". or more politely it will say something like "except where positive discrimination is used to benefit traditionally discriminated against groups like women" which means the same. ETA: fuckin A. Nailed it. Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of co…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:09 PM
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Isn't it really unusual for the female mastermind to be charged the same as the male she uses as a foil to commit murder? I suppose what happened here is they offered her the usual out of taking a much lesser charge, which would go into statistics as 1 male murderer and 1 female <much lesser crime>, but she was too good for that. Oh no I don't deserve any punishment at all. I mean why not? they already 100% accepted that one man is a "rapist" on her obviously biased word alone and without a tria…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 10:05 PM
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Nobody has ever fought for a feminist revolution because women have always been privileged. Every other persecuted minority has had revolutions throughout history but never women. This is because women are not a persecuted minority at all. Your question points out that feminism is bullshit so obviously they banned you.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:23 PM
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well I was there in the 1990s... certainly it was a peak for advocacy and lobbying with the 1994 VAWA coming in. 1990s - VAWA (billions of dollars for feminists) 1980s - Sexual Harassment industry 1970s - attacks on human rights of men charged in sexual crimes ("rape shield laws" and so on) But I can't think of what they ever achieved or got up to in the 2000s. As far as i can see they went institutionalised much more. The feminists who were outsiders in previous decades are now running shit. So…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:11 PM
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nah it's just another feminist ban-happy place.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:04 PM
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There isn't one because women don't face discrimination and the idea of women's rights isn't laughed at and attacked. There's just no symmetry. I mean -- what the hell would such a subreddit discuss?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:03 PM
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Partly I think that's because CEOs don't matter to the productive value of a company. They do no real work so putting a political person in -- well they all are really -- does no harm.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:49 PM
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because it's good to have at least a specific amount of members of a specific gender no matter what But only where it benefits the feminist agenda. No minimum amount of men anywhere women are dominant for example. Remember feminists are NEVER consistent and hold no actual principles. They simply use fake principles to get more of what they want for themselves.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:47 PM
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Well -- this one's a feminist so you're "discussing it" with a feminist after all. You just had to come to /r/MensRights to do so. It's comical but it actually makes sense. Feminists love to ban and censor so you can never talk to them on their own boards. But they refuse to engage almost anywhere else either. One or two of the more combative will hang out here till they get their ass kicked once too often though. When they say they are a troll, they mean exactly that. As with many guilty conser…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:43 PM
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radfems are the honest ones.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 05:57 PM
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There's a billion dollar industry shoving women's shoes down men's throats sister. We don't need to walk in them.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:05 PM
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Heh. I remember reading that the first time around.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 11:01 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500160_162-965224.html Note that the article misrepresents the data and says, "women say there are more advantages in today's society in being a man than in being a woman". In fact most women do not say that. ARE THERE MORE ADVANTAGES IN … Total Being a man 40% Being a woman 13% No advantages for either 45% Men Being a man 32% Being a woman 14% No advantages for either 53% Women Being a man 47% Being a woman 12% No advantages for either 39%
/r/MensRights15/11/13 09:49 PM
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According to polling data most women in the USA think men are worse off than women, or else that there's no difference. Feminists are increasingly out of line with society and completely out of line with reality. It is like a cult. Sorry about your friend.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:25 PM
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Actually it's the role for women that has barely shifted. They are still the little princesses that must be protected and indulged (especially if middle class). All that has changed with their role is that they must be indulged more. The gender script for men has not changed much but certainly more than women. They still have to serve women's interests but without any ego reward (except for the ruling 1%).
/r/MensRights14/11/13 04:12 PM
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Feminists don't think rape (of men) is wrong.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 07:11 PM
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Ask them if they should ban black people from being church treasurer for the same reason. Not that they are racist but... well you know. Would you really want a black person doing that?
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:03 AM
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The wage gap is a conspiracy theory -- a deliberate lie -- put about by feminists as a means to characterise men as evil assholes and a threat to women. Feminists know it's a lie. They have always known it is a lie. The point is that it is a very useful lie for spreading hatred and telling both men and women that men are complete pieces of shit. Obviously it's a gravy train for feminists. The last thing they want is for people to catch on that it's bullshit.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 11:09 PM
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It's bullshit. Some of these feminist stats on what they count as "work" would probably have women working more than 24 hours a day by double counting a lot (eg ironing AND washing clothes AND watching the baby at once). Mostly though, they simply fiddle the books by counting a woman as "working two shifts" but ignoring any work a man does around the house or only counting housework that is traditionally done by women and not counting unpaid work traditionally done by men. Warren Farrel did a lo…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:57 PM
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He's a white boy He was 63 years old.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:01 PM
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So. Nothing.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 12:01 AM
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I didn't ask you to copy and paste it. I asked you where it demeaned women. I am still waiting.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 07:25 PM
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All the reasonable people left that movement years ago. Think it over and you'll see why.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 06:02 PM
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Can we now count on Colbert to run a piece ridiculing feminists who insist that women should continue to pay less for auto insurance?
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:57 PM
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Well she's no Russel Brand. That guy is a wordsmith who can think on his feet with remarkable ease and intelligence. Is that why feminists have decided to attack him? It's easy to think the feminist hatred of Brand is just superficial like almost everything they claim to be offended by, but now I wonder if it is something more.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:55 PM
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Where does it tell women they are inferior?
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:37 PM
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Are they marxist in the sense that they consider gender within a class-conflict model that essentially places men in the position of the bourgeoisie and women the proletariat? I haven't met one who wasn't. When you use the phrase, "Marxist model of class conflict" do you mean anything beyond what the word "conflict" all by itself means? Marx was not a super vague hand wringer. He had some precise ideas. You are not using this phrase to mean anything especially precise as far as I can see. There …
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:55 AM
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No you're talking about the facts saying women are inferior. What you were asked for is where they get messaging that they are inferior. What happens is that the messaging they receive simply contradicts the facts where the facts are judged to be inconvenient to telling women they are better than men are. Provide an example of women being told they are inferior.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:22 AM
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No. I am saying your explanation makes no sense. If it was just to keep men and women separate but equal then they would have made half the shelters for men and half for women wouldn't they?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:39 PM
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Why not have a place for men and one for women then? Why only women?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:10 PM
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Thanks. I get told men are worth less than women every day.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:19 PM
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I believe that women do get a message that they are less capable in many areas (leadership, physical abilities, STEM, making money) Provide an example. Physical ability for example where women plainly ARE at a disadvantage often, they are still given a message of the opposite. And it's illegal to discriminate against women even for those physically tough jobs (you can still hire only women for some jobs of course) so the message there is again women are just as good or better. The only place i c…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 03:35 PM
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This article was imported from the TV Tropes wiki It plainly says it was not written by the feminists. Feminists recently lobbied the government to change the FBI's definition of rape to make it less sexist -- against women of course. The new definition says women cannot rape men. Why is that? Can you tell me why feminists exclude men from their DV shelters or why they made it illegal tom help male victims of DV? Why they support defining male victims of rape out of existence? Recently a new big…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:14 AM
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Victim-blaming Is something feminists do to men. Nobody does it to women even when it leads to utterly ridiculous situations. Slut-shaming What on earth do you think that means? We have words for these because they're common enough You have words for things like that because they help you to spread your hate. Like "patriarchy", "rape culture", "wage gap", "mansplaining" etc. They are terms of art, and your art is hate.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:07 AM
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The patriarchy theory doesn't say all men are rapists and oppressors It doesn't say all men have had sex but it says they are all potentially rapists and all those who have had sex are almost certainly rapists. it does say men persecute women deliberately and continuously. In short it is a piece of filth doctrine that shows men as comic book evil people crossed with the most disgusting subhuman degenerates. It says that a society automatically gives positions of power to men Like the Jews run th…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:04 AM
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told they're worth less When?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:52 AM
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It's fact that women had less rights than men Another quality of a hate movement is to make up stuff about things in the past where people conveniently cannot access the facts for themselves. It makes it easier to lie to people about the hated target group and characterise them as a danger that cannot be reasoned with. The feminist position on history is that men have always oppressed, attacked raped and deliberately hurt women. ie they teach that men are inhuman evil violent rapists who can nev…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:52 AM
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There's no misandry in those subreddits that I could find LOL. OK it's a troll.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:43 AM
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but that doesn't mean the opposite doesn't exist. And does it exist? DOES IT? NO.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:40 AM
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They didn't write the law to attack men They DID. FACTS. They wrote the law to attack male victims and that is what they did and what they continue to do still today despite the change inserted in 2005. they wrote it to help women Feminists don't help women any more than the KKK helps white people. Real women love men and it hurts them when their sons, their fathers, their brothers and so on are attacked by feminist assholes. Feminist DV shelters usually ban even 14 year old boys who are with fe…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:37 AM
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Facts. They matter. Our society treats the rape of women as the worst crime there is including murder. Feminists treat male rape victims as a joke and society takes it's lead from them. If there's any rape culture it is spread by you feminists. This shit you are peddling here is clear hatred of men. You are inventing a problem that doesn't exist and assigning guilt to the group you are attacking. You're like someone going around saying that the Jews secretly run all the banks. You're an asshole …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:29 AM
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most feminists I know argue that a negative stereotype for either gender creates a problem for the other In fact feminists are responsible for spreading hate and stereotypes about men. You just did so above with your "patriarchy" and "rape culture" conspiracy theories. You just stereotyped all men as evil violent rapists who like to hurt women. "Women can do anything as good as a man or better" isn't bashing men Feminists have many slogans saying how useless, stupid and pathetic men are. In the …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:19 AM
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The Nazis had a similar idea about the Jews and the KKK had a similar idea about their enemies. These hate conspiracy theories are a characteristic of hate movements like feminism. In America, it's mostly a cultural rather legal thing The reality is that even you could name laws that discriminate against men but there's no laws discriminating against women in the USA. and they are being created new all the time. By feminists. Saying men have this power over women when it's feminists passing the …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:17 AM
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I didn't know what VAWA was, so I looked it up The law was found unconstitutional as written by feminists in 1994. The line you quote was inserted in 2005. It had to be inserted because of the bigoted nature of the law. Feminists wrote that law to hurt and attack men who were victims of violence. And what's more they still carry on as if the law still said no men allowed. And what's more almost every feminist -- and I personally asked literally hundreds if not over a thousand around that time --…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:12 AM
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Rape cultures are a real thing That's anti-male hate speech right there. You're spreading hatred of men right there.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:08 AM
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Feminists endorse and encourage violence against men though, don't they? That's the point. They aren't about equality, they are about hate. This is the leaders of the movement, the dominant organizations, the state funded offices, the people who set policy and create new anti-male laws. but it's not "just" all the most prominent feminists who are anti-male but the vast majority of the rank and file who endorse those same ideologies of prejudice and hate. In fact if you're really a feminist it's …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:08 AM
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If you're a feminist then you're anti-men's rights. That's the common element of feminism, the hatred of men, the fight to hurt men. Feminism has nothing to do with women's rights any more than the KKK is about rights for white people. Women have so many problems Like what? I've almost never met a feminist who could answer that without lying about men which is of course what feminists love to do with their conspiracy theories about how men are all rapists or that men rule over and oppress all wo…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:03 AM
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If you're a dude who is at least so attractive, who fucks a lot of women, then you're a stud. If you're a dude who is less than What you say is true but it's still true minus all that stuff about who sleeps around. (1) be attractive (2) don't be unattractive That's the solution for all forms of female complaints against men. THAT is why James Bond or George Clooney is a "stud". It has nothing to do with how many or whether they have slept with women.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:30 PM
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(1) be attractive (2) don't be unattractive
/r/MensRights31/10/13 02:21 PM
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I've seen other results which have men looking at women's faces the most, but they did agree that women look at the bodies. As we all knew already it's women who "objectify" other women the most. As if it mattered anyway.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:52 PM
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It wasn't reasonable at all. As you say they didn't even consider charging the woman with anything, not rape (because he was drunk too), not indecent exposure (instead they considered charging him with indecent exposure, even though only she was exposed) nor lying to the police or wasting police time, which she was obviously guilty of.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:44 PM
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The stud/slut thing doesn't work (it's been discussed here often). I don't know if there exist examples of double standards favouring men but this isn't one. The comparison you are using is a feminist line. it doesn't withstand inspection. Firstly men who have a lot of sex = womanizer. Men like that are seen as little boys, "commitment-phobic", misogynist, cads, abusive, not real men. Unless they "grow up" and take care of a woman of course. Take a real example of an outspoken confirmed bachelor…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:33 PM
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Have you studied how hate movements operate? have you thought about what criteria a hate movement typically displays? what makes something a hate movement?
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:41 PM
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I wrote a web site with evidence about this stuff. I made up my own mind. What have you done? taken a women's studies course where you were spoon-fed ideology? Prejudice means making a judgment ahead of the facts. That's you. You haven't got any facts from one half of this issue. I'd be happy to debate you but right now? it would be like fighting an unarmed opponent, because you lack facts or arguments for your point of view. And that's because it isn't your own point of view but what convention…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:38 PM
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Could you tell us how long you have studied men's rights? You see your view here is the conventional one, and therefore if either of us is guilty of being closed minded who is it? Is it me who has studied both sides of the issue for over two decades, or is it you who appears to have no knowledge except what feminist ideology tells you? Feminism being the conventional / close minded view? Now you are here so that says something good about you, but only if you are here to learn. Are you?
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:21 PM
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If you want to understand, you'll seek the knowledge I have studied feminism longer than you've been alive. You're 21 or 22 right? But I know both sides of the story, and you only know one side. if you know only one side of an issue then your "knowledge" is just bias.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:15 PM
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You're coming in here and you obviously don't know the topic, and your attitude is "I am going to tell all these people all about how wrong they are about a topic I know nothing about." That is offensive, OK? You should come and learn what is going on first. People are telling you that what you are saying is offensive and you're trying to tell them "Oh no you can't be offended, because I am right about everything and you're wrong." Imagine someone from the KKK going to a board about civil rights…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:10 PM
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Patriarchy is a conspiracy theory put out by a hate movement. It's just the same as the stuff the Nazis said about the Jews or that the KKK said about blacks or Catholics. These hate movements are all pretty similar in the lies they come up with. Your conspiracy theory says that, (1) Men all secretly run things (2) Men are to be feared (3) Men hurt women and oppress them This is classic hate material. You are saying that men are subhuman because they treat even their closest female relatives wit…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 04:47 PM
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What damage do you think feminists have done? Shouldn't you know that already if you really wanted equality????? So what? You know nothing about feminism but you insist that it's got to be a good thing? And you make that insistence to the face of many of it's victims? Nice one.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 04:43 PM
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They didn't talk against women's rights. But you are talking against men's rights by supporting feminism -- a movement known for promoting hatred. You are talking against men's rights by spreading hate myths like "the patriarchy", the conspiracy theory that says all men are subhuman filth who secretly cooperate to control society so as to attack women and victimize and rape them. If you wanted to see men's issues all you have to do is read. if you had bothered to read you wouldn't be going aroun…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 04:40 PM
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"The patriarchy" is a feminist hate myth. It's as if you are going around saying that all Jews eat babies. You are actively spreading hatred of men.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 04:28 PM
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If you sincerely don't hate men then you should leave that hate movement. But you won't. People will make the corresponding conclusion about you.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 04:26 PM
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Nonsense and bigoted nonsense at that.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:37 PM
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Story is fake anyway. The author is claiming they were getting cat calls at forty years old as a woman? Maybe some women can pull that off if they were very careful of their appearance but if they were a FTM about to transition? Come on. By forty women are already complaining that the cat calls have stopped. There is a tendency with some of these stories to be ideologically based no experiential based. Obviously the ideologues are more likely to want to write about the experience. But this one j…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 03:36 PM
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Someone different seems to do this every week. I guess scientific results are supposed to be repeatable / reproducible.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 05:18 AM
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Tell me again how a hate movement pretending to be socialist means you don't care about class inequality any more?
/r/MensRights09/10/13 05:46 PM
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It's referred to as the "NISVS". I know there's a P in the full title but they skip it for some reason.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 10:00 PM
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Well Warren Farrell (I think) mentioned in passing a hypothetical use that any army would have for women which is to be used as prostitutes. He wasn't serious but I don't see why not. Of course historically armies were regularly accompanied by "camp followers" on a voluntary basis so there wouldn't have been much need for conscription to the task, although you could argue that it ought to have been done anyway, on the basis of sharing the burden, and of avoiding the type of women who would norma…
/r/MensRights02/10/13 06:26 PM
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I was going to give you a serious reply until I read your 2nd to last paragraph. Then I realised you have no idea whatsoever what the MRA is. You need to first find out what the MRAs stand for and then I think ask your question again because it's a reasonable one.
/r/MensRights02/10/13 04:22 PM
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The earliest example is Victoria Woodhull. She was once one of the most prominent leaders of the 19th century movement ranking up there with Susan B Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton, but has been largely hidden from the official histories.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 06:23 PM
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If you think ANYBODY out there is going to take you seriously two minutes after you just said you oppose the Civil Rights reforms for private businesses... You think this is just ME???
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:27 PM
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You're seriously saying it's more harmful to the racists to stop them being racist than it is to the victims of their racism if they go ahead? See even if I didn't think this whole argument was racist, I'd be thinking that anyone who goes around talking gibberish like this is a going to give any equality movement such a bad name that it is better to not associate. My advice would be to just shut the fuck up and never mention this argument ever again in polite society. Because whereas I am just a…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 04:34 AM
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Isn't shoplifting a classic female crime?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:02 AM
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Feminism is a hate movement comparable to the KKK when it was in it's popular phase during the 1920s. At that time, "all the best people were in the clan" and it was widely regarded as a positive thing, even progressive. As today with feminism, politicians would vie for the support of the Klan. Today of course we can see that they were a hate movement, but it wasn't obvious to the people of the time.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:00 AM
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Government shouldn't try and dictate morality Don't be absurd. That is precisely what law and order is. At any rate I'll take that as another vote against the Civil Rights movement (or half of it I suppose since libertarians seem to have a completely different view on restricting the government - I guess you're OK with them dictating morality in that case).
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:56 AM
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I assume that's an agreement with the anti-Civil Rights position then?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:50 AM
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from a libertarian point of view his reasoning is intellectually sound Which says all you need to know about libertarianism. At best a group that has zero compassion or understanding of others plight or of inequality. Their argument turns on claiming that racism/discrimination by private corporations doesn't do any harm to anyone.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:47 AM
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I don't think it's all libertarians, but yeah... this looks really bad for Libertarians in general. I also wonder how many libertarians (regardless of being MRAs) agree with this stuff.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 08:33 PM
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I guess it's inevitable, but I am not looking to rehash that argument here.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:52 PM
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The ideology that people are not seen as individuals So a comic-book concept, not anything any actual socialist would say? Not even a dictionary definition? That is how I've learnt it in school, anyhow Well I am sorry to tell you but that school is indoctrinating you. In fact it is easy to argue that socialism is about seeing people as individuals but then that whole concept is so vague that just about any philosophy could make that argument. It's like saying you believe in "freedom" and nobody …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:45 PM
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Manipulated (false) statistics. We know men work harder than women on average (outside the home). It looks like a lot of wage-gap type misinformation. Still it would take a while to go through and figure out where they get their stats on everything and figure out what the stats were really saying .
/r/MensRights11/09/13 07:06 PM
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he's suggesting people treat people differently according to race. that is racism
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:30 PM
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All crimes are crimes against the state. That's what a crime is as opposed to a civil law suit.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:21 PM
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Civil Rights with capital letters. Do you not know about the Civil Rights movement? In the 50s and 60s in the USA?
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:20 PM
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Demanding that the law be changed to support racism is institutional you idiot.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:19 PM
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This is actually a racist report as well as a sexist one. Plenty of feminist "reports" over the years have said much the same thing about men in Western countries but they have never got much mileage because frankly nobody believes the obvious bullshit when it's about people like me, Western people, Western men. But make it about some freaky foreigners and suddenly you got a winner feminism! Oh yeah them asians they are some fucked up people, am I rite?
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:42 PM
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Decent people support the right to do things that they don't necessarily agree with I disagree with murder so that means I should support people's right to murder? You're talking 100% libertarian bullshit here. If something is wrong you oppose it, you don't encourage it. It's no wonder people say libertarians are racist when you say stuff like this. they are racist.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:28 PM
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Do you know what socialism is? Why don't you tell me what you think socialism is and then tell me how you think feminism qualifies as socialism. Feminism is pushing the for abolation of traditionalism for the benefit of females only Traditionalism is more or less for the benefit of females only to begin with. How can that statement make sense? Feminism is just traditionalism with a new twist. It's a trojan horse I'm the one saying it's a trojan horse. A trojan horse is something that is disguise…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:24 PM
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You are evidence that American society today still supports institutionalised racism.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:19 PM
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I guess this is the shitty immoral libertarianism streak that runs through this site. The leaders of your movement are usually more sensible than to come out and say they oppose the Civil Rights movement though.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:17 PM
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Well it may not be the 50s but apparently people like you still exist.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:33 AM
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Well what actually fucking happened is that racist assholes like yourself kept all those racist businesses in business, and even black people had to use them because there was no choice. So much for your fucked up "free market". Fucked up like all other libertarian crap.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:18 AM
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That is a big part of what the civil rights movement was about. You would tell Rosa parks to get her ass to the back of the buss because the bus was privately owned by a corporation. You would say all the shops and restaurants had a right to their separate entrances for whites and coloreds, etc etc. You are racist.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:17 AM
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No you're racist because you are saying black people should be denied their rights (in part). You would have been opposed to the Civil Rights movement. I suppose you still are. ETA: if I were you I'd deny ever having this view in polite society
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:01 AM
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Then you lack both imagination and a grasp of history.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:20 AM
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Get used to people calling you racist then.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:57 AM
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Racist discrimination is harming others.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:56 AM
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I bet if they had asked women they would have "admitted to" being rapists even more, given the weird definitions of "RAPE'
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:38 AM
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Well feminists have no sincerity or sense of self-consistency so yes, they simultaneously slut shame prostitutes and porn stars while pretending to be against slut shaming. The reality is they have no principles at all, not even things like being pro-choice or "boost women". They will gladly cast aside those things to attack men. Examples: when feminists want to attack men by saying female foetuses in China are selectively aborted they gladly throw out the idea that the foetus is not a person. w…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:33 AM
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It's not up to her. It's not up to any witness as to whether to press a criminal charge but especially in DV situations the police are told that a witness (if female that is) who suddenly changes her story is obviously doing so under violent threat from her husband. More of an issue is whether they can go ahead with a prosecution now that the key witness has changed her story.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:28 AM
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They make the state attorney run out to ever DV call in Florida?
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:24 AM
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Words don't cause actual harm and discrimination towards people. Having a unpopular opinion doesn't breach someone else's civil rights. In addition it's not a trivial or objective task to decide what speech is nice and what is not. None of those things are true of the discrimination you propose.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:06 AM
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They are infringing on other peoples rights with segregation. So you're saying you support racism and would be opposed to what was called the Civil Rights movement of the 50s and 60s? What the hell are you doing on an equality subreddit?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:59 PM
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No, it's illegal to do that. Are you saying you want it to be legal?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:23 PM
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Women love being told they are better than men and society loves to tell them that again and again.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:34 PM
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Segregationism like this is nothing but hate.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:31 PM
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So you think a whites only restaurant is OK?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:30 PM
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no denying that Sexist against who? The foetus is not a person. You might as well say calling a ship fat is sexist if the ship has a female name. So no, technically it's not sexist. And that's kind of the point here. Are feminists saying the foetus is a who or a what? They can't have it both ways. The sexism that actually impacts living people tends to benefit women over men in China and elsewhere it has happened by the simple process of "supply and demand". Fewer women means more "demand" for w…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 06:02 PM
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Sarcasm from me. Actually what half of them think.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 05:44 PM
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Right. Whereas the original men's rights movement was the labor movement -- ie socialism. Men's rights and socialism -- both attacked by the state, both radical, both demanding actual rights and an end to actual prejudices. Both demanding radical changes to the way society has historically been run. Conservatism and feminism -- loved by the state, both backing up the status quo, both regressive, both seeking to preserve how things have been done before or more so.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:39 PM
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What are the odds they all still get convicted? I mean they only have three other witnesses saying she lied.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:11 PM
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It's just a foetus until..... A feminist wants to write an article about how "sexist" it is if people in China selectively abort female foetuses -- then it's killing little girls. (And don't mention Western women tend to selectively abort male foetuses).
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:09 PM
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Maleness has a stench to it. Women shouldn't be made to put up with that. Next thing you'll be saying men should be allowed to share single occupancy bathrooms with women. Remember men have cooties.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:06 PM
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Sex segregation is pretty common in highly conservative societies and with the highly conservative feminist movement. It seems pretty obvious to me that feminists are conservatives based on what they actually do but some here insist feminists are left wing based on nothing but what they claim about themselves. Women need to be protected even from the male gaze -- something else radical feminists and radical Muslims appear to agree on.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 02:05 PM
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Why? Bigotry. It didn't used to be that way. Feminist attacks on male sexuality has got a lot worse in the last few decades while in some respects other things have got better IMO.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:33 AM
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They really and truly believe that we're all stupid rape apologists who are mad because the 50s ended and plan to take it back by insulting women on the internet No that's what they think of all men and they think only men are MRAs.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:31 AM
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They look like feminists not Leftists. As such it will be nothing be one big circle jerk, just like so many before it.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:30 AM
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If the sexes were reversed... well we don't have to guess because women who carried out illegal abortions on themselves before 1973 are hailed as heroines taking the law into their own hands.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:25 AM
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In summary: Woman makes up an accusation of rape to score a bunch of money suing the local government. She'd done exactly the same before and it worked easy. At court the only physical evidence contradicted her account. There were of course no witnesses beyond her and the mentally impaired low IQ hobo she framed. Good enough to convict of course. Thirty years. Now that they know he is completely innocent.... they still haven't let him out yet. And nothing has happened to her of course. ETA: and …
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:16 AM
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Oh because facts don't matter, right? if a statement is true for one thing it must be equally true for every other thing, right? Good luck driving your pineapple to work tomorrow.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:04 AM
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They aren't interested in sexism per se. That's just the cover story.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:44 PM
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It seems to me that one of the great flaws of feminism is the colossal lack of empathy white feminists have for... well, anyone, but especially men That's a feature, not a bug. Feminism is a hate movement. can we explain why so many people who aren't white upper class women get fooled into believing white upper class feminist bullshit?? This is simply a privilege of power. Society tends to reflect the narratives of the most powerful.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:20 PM
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I don't see any comments by anyone on any article there.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 07:13 PM
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The Nazis were probably more successful. Or the current US government's influence of the mass media for manufacturing consent on foreign policy of course.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:22 PM
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You get a very limited amount of kick back these days but they are afraid of the feminists. Too afraid to turn on them. http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article16.php?id=2205
/r/MensRights09/09/13 05:54 PM
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It's really not something that feminists would get all frothy about And you're basing that on?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:46 AM
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This is the very opposite of the goals of feminism No that's exactly what feminists want.... which is why they did it. Why is it that Because our society's views on sex is dominated by a hate movement.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:43 AM
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Let us see what happens to my comment on their claim about feminism and rape as a tool of war. it's currently "awaiting moderation" because -- you know -- a feminist site can never just let comments go uncensored. That claim is false (as I suspect are most if not all the claims on this web site). I doubt organized mass rape has ever been legal but for example, the Nuremberg principles explicitly ban, "Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts done against any civili…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:40 AM
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If you're glad that every feminist site bans critics from pointing out the lies... thank a feminist!!!
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:30 AM
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I thought "gender traitor" was the correct term.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:49 AM
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Or the "victim" was female.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:13 AM
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Don't feminists use "misogynist" to mean the word "men"? presumably they didn't realise they were calling women misogynists too.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:09 AM
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No. Check back in 100 years.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:08 AM
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Obviously if you're talking to libertarians and you want them to hate feminism then pretending that feminism = socialism is a winner, but that doesn't make it true. Feminism is the enemy of socialism. The entire basis of libertarian opinion here seems to be the idea that whatever feminists say must be true. Feminists claim to be socialist? Good enough for libertarians. It's not like feminists would ever lie, right? Libertarians like feminists are conservatives and tend to tribalism. This claim b…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:53 PM
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Lost me immediately with the idiotic comparison to Marxism. Or rather that he didn't compare them to Marxism but said they were Marxists. His "logic" for this was the usual bloody idiocy of libertarians. Marxists say there is an issue of class warfare -- which is a legitimate cause. Then he says feminists substitute a sex war, an illegitimate cause. Now anyone with an ounce on intelligence would recognise that as an attack on Marxism. Marxists say this but feminists say no, not a class war but a…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:23 PM
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Ask if it is OK to take pictures of the women and upload them to the internet. I'm guessing the answer is "no", because these women fancy themselves a sort of Lady Godiva. This attitude is one of entitlement that says they are allowed to go out into public and make a public statement, but at the same time nobody is allowed to treat them as if they were in public. It's not a protest but an exercise in narcissism.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 04:17 PM
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0.o Okay, that makes 0 sense to me. Well look up ifeminists / Wendy McElroy. To be fair no other feminists recognise her as a feminist, and nor do I, but she sticks with that label.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:50 PM
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Does that make the KKK white people's union?
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:34 PM
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You can tell it's satire because it's funny but I've seen completely serious articles just like this.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 03:11 AM
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Women kind of already are given money just because they are women. Government benefits, services and protections are all slanted to serving women over men. Sometimes that translates to a cash dollar figure and sometimes it is just extra services. But yes, this sort of entitlement is created by the feminist propaganda that says men are violent criminals that owe women money and power because they have always oppressed women. That belief ("patriarchy") is not some sort of fringe or radical notion …
/r/MensRights06/09/13 10:38 PM
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I agree with sillymod. This happens on entirely feminist websites too. The feminist admin is the one that has to pull the trigger so they tend to have more (not less) reluctance to censor and ban. The users team up to apply pressure on the admin, typically by describing the target as some sort of sexual predator or other threat. They have less moral inhibitions about these false accusations because they aren't the one actually doing the banning. The can put a lot of pressure on even feminist adm…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:10 PM
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Yeah, that's not normal. Why do you think it is?
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:02 PM
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at least not from a strictly libertarian perspective And there's the problem; libertarians are idiots who believe corporations can do no wrong, and that the exact same evil behaviour from a government is just fine if done by a corporation.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:58 PM
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They are very close meaning words.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 02:39 PM
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Again if berries were more efficient then the women would be selecting men who got more berries.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 07:39 AM
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Here's a simpler (maybe) way to think about it by turning it around. Let's say that in response to feminist demands for 50% representation in men's traditional sphere of influence, men demanded and got a guarantee of 50% representation in women's traditional sphere. This would mean that 50% of stay at home parents supported by a spouse earning good money had to be men, not women. Women could only take on those positions in a one to one match with men who had that position. Once those slots were …
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:29 AM
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why don't they want to be equals? All humans have a measure of tribalism / conservatism in them which is opposed by the liberal / equality-minded side. In the distant past prejudice for people just like you, for your close friends and hatred for people a little different from you - that was evolutionarily a good thing somewhat. These days it's just immoral. unfortunately our DNA hasn't caught up. A lot of people fundamentally see the world as split into people they like and who are like them and…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:14 AM
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except we were talking about feminists not women.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:09 AM
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It's not revenge if you were never attacked. It's just hate. Rewriting history so it becomes a fantasy of how your group was victimised is what all hate movements do. The KKK even said whites were victimised by blacks as ridiculous as that sounds. But yes they frame their hatred as revenge for imagined hurts. And also they have to say that men are dangerous as another justification for attacking men constantly. That's also a hallmark of a hate movement. A third popular technique is to make up st…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:08 AM
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Yes people are always making up examples which on closer inspection turn out to be false. Matrilineal societies do exist and sometimes get falsely represented as matriarchies. A matrilineal system is one where the power is inherited down the female line, but it's still a system run by men. Instead of passing from father to son it passes from brother to brother and then uncle to nephew.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 04:51 AM
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Yeah there was a story but that sort of thing tends to be sensationalist and then nobody comes back and asks, hang on does anyone else agree with this story? I looked up the tribe on wikipedia and needless to say the view there didn't even mention anything about female leadership. For whatever reason many people really love the IDEA of an amazon band out there with women ruling over the men, but it's a fiction. ETA: if no country in the world can do it even today, why believe a primitive tribe w…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:28 PM
0

At what point did you feel you were "tagged in"? feminists can make similar legitimate complaints No they can't. And neither can you.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:16 PM
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Sounds like feminist bs. The stuff about women being leaders is definitely feminist bs. There is no known society that used to have women as leaders in that way. Zero. As for the food thing, well there's a difference between saying 80% of a diet is plants and that 80% of the nutrition is plants, or that 80% of the effort to get the food was put into picking plants, nor is there a reason to say that men never picked plants. I think their reasoning is OK though. If women were really contributing 8…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:04 PM
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The government supports rape of men -- it's used as a method of punishment and control of prisoners in prisons. You mean to say that the Federal Gov't is supporting the feminist movement What do you think VAWA is? It's billions of dollars of tax money given to feminists.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 07:31 PM
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Billions of dollars of support for their movement and anti-male hate.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:31 PM
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For example through taxation.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 05:13 PM
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I'm surprised they fined her, I'm surprised they CAN fine someone who is not part of their little club and its rules.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 05:12 PM
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That's not true. The victim is merely a witness. The crime of assault is (as with all crimes) a crime against the state. Now if he wanted to sue her in civil court, that's entirely up to him, but prosecution for crimes is nothing to do with him. He can't even refuse to be a witness. At best he can be a hostile witness. not that the police would need him if the attack was so public and on video.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 05:11 PM
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I disagree. She says women can't have it all now so therefore we must change the rules to force men to give women everything. She says women shouldn't need to have to make a choice.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:57 PM
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She states that men have a role to play in getting beyond the problems she mentions Men have to serve women's interests to put women far ahead of men. Saying this gives men leverage is like saying the black slaves had tons of leverage over their slave masters.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:56 PM
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A concise explanation of the women's rights movement as any you'll see: They ordered a lovely spread of hors d'oeuvres and white wine. They presented each of us with an elegant lavender plant. And then, like women meeting for cocktails often do, they—well, we, actually—proceeded to complain Wealthy / middle class white women with free time on their hands to bitch and moan about how shitty their life is --- and only having that opportunity precisely because of how privileged their lives were/are.…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:48 PM
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Hey now, you're just judging that feminist by what came out of her won mouth. That's obviously unfair. She probably says a lot of other stuff that isn't obviously man hating. Therefore you can't judge her as anything at all. In any case some man is obviously to blame for anything she might have said.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:38 PM
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Yes that's a polite way to say you disagree with her politics.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:48 PM
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Well she has a certain political view about men and women. That bit is OK. Her view is different from yours (and pretty much most peoples these days) but that's also OK. Is it a sexist view? Well if two people both feel that way then -- consenting adults -- I don't have an issue with that, or any other weird practise. But she's kinda forcing it down your throat, which is rude. I don't know if it is sexist though. She's probably rude like that to anyone. I suppose your bf could make a case that s…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:47 PM
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You are male or female and that is based on your genitalia That just seems contradicted by the witness of so many transsexual people. Why would you just ignore all that evidence? I've been called a transphobic many many times here on reddit Well that's why. You're ignoring what people are telling you about their subjective experience of self. That's rude.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:31 PM
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I don't think the MRAs say much about it. They are not like feminists and do not need to co-opt other peoples issues to make themselves look legitimate because they lack their own issues. In short there's no sort of official position. There's some intersection. In my view many of the issues of trans are linked to men's issues because feminists have attacked trans people as a way to attack men. In the same way the Nazis attacked people who had one Jewish parent. They wanted to make a sharp dividi…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:27 PM
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Are you joining the KKK too then? How about the Nazis? I'm sure nobody would think you were racist.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 07:59 PM
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All feminists support hate. That's not the radical part. The radical part of feminism is admitting to it.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 07:11 PM
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then you're supporting hate
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:58 PM
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Substitute "Nazis" for "feminists" and go----
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:57 PM
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Oh that's like saying "only the guilty need be afraid" of losing civil rights. What a charmer you must be.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:15 PM
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Presumably for men the corresponding figure would be 100%.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:39 PM
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I think you mean tactically not strategically. In the long term "men can have their feelings hurt too" is exactly where you want to go and that's why it looks hard, because it is.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:38 PM
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Gender neutral but still aimed at men. Perpetuates the myth of drinks being drugged on dates, or for that matter of dates being particularly dangerous at all. A better warning would be to not drink in excess or not drink and drive since those activities are far more dangerous.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:35 PM
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It's harassment unless you're hot.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:55 PM
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but not systemic and not as severe And anyway it's just men hurting other men? that's a feminist favourite too.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:06 PM
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Looks like just the average feminist anti-male hate speech. Did i miss anything?
/r/MensRights01/09/13 09:30 PM
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I guess that's a little different....
/r/MensRights01/09/13 09:29 PM
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don't judge Judging things is what I do, or I wouldn't be here and neither would you.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 08:11 AM
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If you like feminists so much go post on /r/feminism once
/r/MensRights01/09/13 08:08 AM
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Just another feminist competing in the Victim Olympics.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 08:03 AM
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I guess I don't mind women's rights (although you wouldn't be a very active activist what with having no issues to fight for) but feminism is a hate movement.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 08:00 AM
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All feminist sites are anti-men and there's a hundred of them (all with about five people on them).
/r/MensRights01/09/13 07:59 AM
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That.. is fucking retarded Of course. They know they can't win the argument so they just make up utter nonsense. It's like a cult.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:45 PM
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Some feminists associate gender equality with being able to do these kinds of things back to men That's just ridiculous because the idiotic stuff feminists bitch about are all so utterly trivial no man would even notice them happening to him --- or consider himself lucky they were. It's like a rich person saying, "Ooooooh I know how I'll pay back those nasty homeless people. I'll give them a sack of cash and then they will have to worry about being mugged for a change. That'll teach them about t…
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:41 PM
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Simpson's isn't that interesting (oh -- well it is from a stats point of view it's terribly cool and all that but that has nothing to do with Men's Rights) Basically it comes down to feminists lying about the facts again.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:36 PM
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Why is it interesting? it just looks like a standard hysterical women / feminist manufactured victimry story.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:33 PM
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Women tend to be more sexist / prejudiced than men. I suppose after decades of feminist hate propaganda it would be weird if it wasn't working.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 10:32 PM
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They are probably illegal the same as specifying "no blacks" or "no jews" would be.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:52 PM
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What's the difference between "good" KKK and "bad" KKK? Feminism is a hate movement and all feminists are bad. All feminists spread lies designed to create fear and hatred of men like the wage gap or "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:45 PM
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Stop calling yourself a feminist, for one.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:40 PM
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Well that was a waste of time reading. I thought it might have had something to say about feminist groups undermining the Occupy movement as happened in NYC.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:09 PM
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Hate speech on a T.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:05 PM
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It's not an actual crime to falsely accuse someone of rape. It ought to be but it isn't. That's why these sentences are so small. Because the crime is small, because the crime is NOT falsely accusing someone of rape but merely lying to police or wasting police time. Viciously attacking a man and trying to get them beaten up and kidnapped for ten years is not a crime.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:04 PM
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It's an article by a feminist who apparently doesn't realise that he is making the point that feminism has no real issues.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:01 PM
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Was it me? did I get banned? Do I win a prize?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:58 PM
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It would be a "where have all the good men gone?" article if the genders were swapped.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:57 PM
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A boy attacked by a wolf. At first I thought you just meant the general absence of all sorts of "hero girl fights off wolf" type of comments.... but I guess you meant this part: Graham’s girlfriend fled during the attack She didn't even bother to wake up the other campers to get them to help the boy who was attacked. Just, hey sucks to be you, and I'm outta here.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 07:59 PM
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He's actually saying the opposite. He says Do NOT enforce contempt of court by sending mothers to jail. Instead let's do this other thing (take away custody). I mean read the last line: He added that occasionally it might be necessary to send a mother to jail. Fancy that.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:33 PM
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Sort of... in fact he's trying to NOT hold them accountable for contempt of court which would mean jailing them. He doesn't want that so he instead suggests doing something else which -- after three violations -- would prevent having to jail the guilty women.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:31 PM
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But it seems like this narrative makes the man dependent entirely on the woman to not screw him over with divorce and taking his kid away from him after he's invested so much of himself as a parent. Without rights the man is always going to be dependent in this narrative.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 04:07 PM
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No just use "man up".
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:57 PM
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Even if that was true, any woman who wanted to get promoted could demand more equal work. The thing is women have the option of either lesser work for equal pay, or else demanding equal work because they have their eye on a promotion (which they will get more easily because of fewer women doing this and management wanting more women to make them look good).
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:56 PM
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Write it all down each day. Might come in useful one day.....
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:53 PM
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Michael Jackson?
/r/MensRights28/08/13 03:47 PM
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I always challenge anyone who suggests women are worse off or only as well off as men.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 09:46 PM
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Well yes, this sort of stuff happens to men all the time. Bullying by women and their dependable White Knights. I don't think you can do anything about it because there's no way the moderator will change their mind. That would be to admit they were the bully and that they were guilty of harassment and the crimes they punished you for.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 09:45 PM
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Your medal is in the mail.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:52 PM
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Doubtful. Wiki page says nothing about rule by women. Are there any actual examples of matriarchies? I wouldn't jump to conclusions based on what one guy says in this article.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 07:13 PM
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Isn't that just all of feminism? Feminism works by manufacturing victimry. I would add that they don't wait for people to attack them. It's easier to simply make up stuff to be offended by. Most of the "business model" is: note benign everyday event manufacture angry resentment & victimry you're done
/r/MensRights27/08/13 07:06 PM
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Parody or real? Who can tell any more.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 05:13 PM
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Presumably they were campaigning for men to have the right to walk around showing off their private parts, like women apparently can, and that the men would be seen as heroic activists instead of perverted child rapists as they would be if they tried pulling this shit.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 09:15 PM
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People at the time didn't think so. Not that men have had the vote for very long.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:38 PM
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all victims of violence should be taken seriously So why do you support sex discrimination against male victims?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:34 PM
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This is hate speech. You're denigrating a minority group.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:33 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. What evidence could you possibly provide to suggest otherwise?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:32 PM
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Why do you have a sexist view of dismissing male victims like that? Also why do you approve of gender segregationism and institutional anti-male discrimination? Why doesn't a male victim have the same rights as a female victim in your view?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:29 PM
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Why are you part of an anti-male hate movement?
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:27 PM
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Feminist run / censoring subreddit. Ignore.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:27 PM
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Something weird about this girl. Prosecutors bending over backwards to get her off the hook and she's just thumbing her nose at the system.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:00 PM
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I love the way you assume that male friendly laws were some sort of natural order and used to be the case ("still have").
/r/MensRights26/08/13 04:08 PM
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Possibly either one depending on what you intended in your original post. I am saying that people don't feel the need to go on about words that mean they are for equality in the area of race, so why make a big deal about it for gender?
/r/MensRights22/08/13 09:03 PM
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What word do you call yourself to express that you are not racist?
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:52 PM
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That's what VAWA is. Billions of dollars in funding for feminist stuff to do with DV. They also have sources from other stuff, especially the sexual harassment industry. ETA: this money doesn't go (at least not all of it goes) directly into feminists pockets but then that's the usual way things work with government funding for corrupt industries. It's about providing forced customers. For example money for police to be trained the "right" way to deal with DV. Who does the training? it sure as he…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:44 PM
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Feminists are the most obvious group with a need for a "safe space". They invented the term. They routinely ban males. nerds don't ban females. This feminist is describing himself and his own movement, and yes, it's the same with all hate movements.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:55 PM
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More or less two types of male feminist. The first is basically like the men in Valarie Solanas' SCUM manifesto. They are self-hating suck-ups. They think men are all evil including themselves because they are tainted. They usually don't even call themselves "feminist" because they are unworthy. Sickening self-haters. If you meet a man who says he's a "feminist ally" then that's that type of feminist. The other type of male feminist has some self-respect left and when he says all men are rapists…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:47 PM
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Women tend to be sexist because of forty years of feminist hate propaganda.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:44 PM
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If you support feminist hate still, then this may not be the place for you.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:41 PM
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They've always done both. For example a hot debate issue in the early 1990s was the VAWA which had just / just about to pass. When I challenged feminists on its deliberately sex discriminatory text they had two answers. (1) No it isn't sexist; it's gender neutral (2) yes it is sexist because women deserve / need the help and men don't. Now it doesn't take a genius to see that those two answers are contradictory. (They correspond roughly to the ideas of attacking men overtly and attacking men whi…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:40 PM
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Feminists have always tried to co-opt the sympathy due to legitimately oppressed groups, to use for their own agenda.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:34 PM
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They've always said both contradictory things at once, sometimes within the same paragraph. This is because feminism is a conservative / authoritarian movement and those people don't have a liberal understanding of truth or consistency. by "liberal" here I mean very basic "truth is good" and "consistency is good" stuff. To an authoritarian loyalty is the most important thing so an argument or comment is judged good if and only if it endorses the tribe's values. it's like "the ends justify the me…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:31 PM
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Male sexuality isn't really exploited; it's criminalized. This is something feminists have long pushed hard for.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:16 PM
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And we always believe anything feminists say here, don't we?
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:15 PM
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Feminists are authoritarian conservatives. But they pretend to be liberal / left as part of the pretense that they represent a victimised minority. This is actually something other hate groups have done (I gave the example of the KKK being seen as progressive in its popular days). On reddit the socialist / anarchist / communist subreddits have been taken over by feminists. They are not actually socialist sites. It's important to see beyond the pretense and the PR to what these groups actually do…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 04:07 PM
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Those numbers look so much better than they used to btw. it used to be more like 7:1. People have really started talking about prostate cancer a lot more in recent years. You just never used to hear about it except on men's rights or anti-feminist boards.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:59 PM
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It's hate speech. Don't over analyse this stuff. You might as well ask why is it annoying when people say Jews are tight fisted or black people are lazy, or gay men are pedophiles.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:51 PM
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if a man used it on a woman, that is
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:48 PM
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the app is clearly marketed to women This really doesn't say anything good about women in Brazil.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:47 PM
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I get why there's so much hatred for SRS here now They are just regular feminists no different from feminists on any web site all over the internet, and for my money a little above average in terms of politeness etc. I don't know how they've weaseled their way into liberal thought Feminists have always framed their movement in terms of rights of a minority despite the fact that it's never been true. But this is actually not uncommon for hate groups. Back in the day the KKK were often seen as pro…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:42 PM
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You seem to be dogmatically bullshitting at this point.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:26 PM
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Complete agreement with feminism and not questioning it - obviously.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:24 PM
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Oh so by a "privilege" you mean a burden now? so you're excuse is you're not anti-male, you're just insane? with great responsibility comes great power WHAT POWER?? WHAT PRIVILEGE? NAME IT yeah you got nothing.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:24 PM
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Obviously you're not.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:22 PM
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(as CDC defined it) And they explained that they intended explicitly for that to exclude the possibility of male victims. It's hard to read these laws and figure out the intent and how they are interpreted as a practical matter.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 03:21 PM
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Funny how so often feminist victimry sounds a lot more like bragging than anything else. "I'm so fucking hot all the men were after me --- of I was so victimised by that."
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:32 PM
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Go on then. Name some of this "male privilege" you think exists, asshole. We won't ban you here but we will pick on you for saying bullshit which you wont get from a feminist.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:30 PM
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He really needs to grovel way waaaay more though.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:28 PM
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I am amazed. That you are surprised.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:27 PM
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How many women offer to pay for both herself and her date - and mean it? AKA - acting like any ordinary man?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 10:12 PM
1

There's more analysis you can do not included in that picture. For example the numbers suggest men are being repeatedly raped more often so the actual number of rapes of men would be larger than the figures say there. But there's really not much been done to study rape (of men - thousands of studies for rape of women of course) so the data is just not there to go into much detail.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 09:17 PM
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Rape is more or less a 50-50 crime but 100 times more men are prosecuted than women. http://i.imgur.com/wd4XiOd.jpg
/r/MensRights21/08/13 08:22 PM
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Yeah women are roughly 100 times more likely to get away with rape.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 06:06 PM
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False accusation is not a crime at all. She was charged with purjury. Her "sin" was against the state, not the man. A low grade administrative time wasting crime that deserves little punishment. Get it right. False accusation should be a crime. It isn't.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 06:01 PM
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Just anti-male hate speech reinforcing feminist myths. Not a serious proposal.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:59 PM
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Rape is a horrible crime Not under current definitions. Rape could be a wife giving her husband a blow job on his birthday to wake him up. That's rape. Is that "a horrible crime"? no it isn't. "Rape" describes a ridiculously wide range of activities from zero bad through to deadly assault. it's deliberately been stretched to meaninglessness by a campaign of hate against men by feminists. Summary: The Pennsylvania Codified law is gender neutral and does not adversely affect male victims of rape W…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:58 PM
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It's not just pedophilia paranoia but just about every crime.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:53 PM
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I dont think she should be punished as harshly as she was zero punishment so far
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:51 PM
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She was 18 and had sex with a 14 year old. not 17.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:46 PM
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That propagates hate. Like a joke about how tight Jews are with money. You always see jokes like that on those shows too, right?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:43 PM
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But the check thing is real and the wage gap is a feminist hate speech myth.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:42 PM
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Written by a feminist of course. Wonder what a Nazi dictionary defined anti-Nazism as.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:41 PM
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You criticised feminism, therefore you're banned. That's how hate movements and cults operate. You're either with them or against them and clearly you weren't looking like the former with that post.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:39 PM
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Sure there is. What's your problem? I've seen sources saying greater than 20%. I've seen less too.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:58 PM
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The definition of sexual harassment (at work) is a hostile working environment for one sex or the other (read: women only in practise). The cause of that hostile working environment need not be anything to do with sex.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:54 PM
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The rape victim in Steubenville apparently gave her rapist oral sex. Wasn't really relevant to the case because the "rape" verdict wasn't based on a lack of consent (which is why the "rapist" got a shorter prison sentence than the guy that took nude pics of her without permission).
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:52 PM
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It's clearly and deliberately gendered. You are clearly and deliberately ignoring that reality. What purpose is served by deliberately only talking about the safety of women despite the fact that ten times as much violence in the workplace is against men? and what purpose is served by tying it into violence "at home"? This is clearly an attack on men and constitutes a hostile working environment. That is the definition of sexual harassment. That sounds like something radical feminists Well duh. …
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:44 PM
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In many countries all around the world, this would be ok name one
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:29 PM
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Yes, it's sexual harassment. It says to male employees that their employer considers them to be criminals under suspicion.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:39 PM
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Supporting violence against the hated minority group -- a quality of hate movements.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:38 PM
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it made me really think of all the guys this might actually happen to Something like 20% of all kids born to married women are not related to the husband. It's so common that biology researchers are warned to never assume that the "father" is related to the children in their experiments.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:37 PM
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Same thing as happened in Steubenville... drunk girl sucks off boy so he's a rapist.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:33 PM
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I don't see how you'd have a leg to stand on.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:29 PM
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She already has.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:28 PM
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So you are reduced to saying that burning a cross on a black family's lawn isn't anything to do with racism in order to defend feminism. OK no point discussing anything further with you.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:28 PM
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He censors critics of feminism. It's a joke.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:25 PM
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Standard feminist technique. Same way they have defined domestic violence to exclude elder abuse and child abuse -- because they are mostly committed by women.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:25 PM
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True. A real feminist would explain that the men stopping to help were just evil violent rapists. or did she cover that by saying "patriarchy"? I guess she did.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:23 PM
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Asteroid to kill all life on Earth. Women and children especially at risk.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:21 PM
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Why is it inaccurate? You're simply ignoring all the particulars of the case.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:18 PM
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You're saying that just because she raped a child and has zero remorse, doesn't mean she wouldn't again? That's nonsense.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:17 PM
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I call bullshit. First you say you're only a feminist because of its definition. Then you say now that you know the definition is bullshit propaganda, you'll still keep calling yourself as a member of a hate movement. Nobody who actually believed in sex equality would do that.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:14 PM
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pity Nice way to dismiss and deny discrimination against men and frame it as if it was discrimination against women. Just what I'd expect from a feminist.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:12 PM
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I'm not jumping ship You've chosen to remain part of a hate movement. Expect to be treated accordingly.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:09 PM
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Just to be clear, on this subreddit "feminist" tends to be used to refer to what is called Radical Second Wave and Third Wave feminism Just to be clear -- that's not true. It's all feminists. Stop making apologies for a hate movement.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:08 PM
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Sorry - what idiotic victimry myth is "slut shaming" supposed to be?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:06 PM
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You are defending an anti-male hate movement. How do you think that ought to be received?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:05 PM
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wise man = violent psychotic?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:03 PM
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The original post said word word word word.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:02 PM
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However, I'm also a feminist Feminism is a hate movement. You need to quit that shit. You might as well turn up saying you're in the KKK but you're against racism. I believe that women have real problems Like what? You listed (as anyone could) a bunch of issues facing men. Nobody can ever point to issues facing women. Literally I ask everyone that says that the same thing and nobody can answer me. I guess billionaires "have issues" too, but for some reason nobody can name an issue facing women.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:00 PM
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It says men are subhuman. It's hate speech.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:56 PM
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You read self-justifying hate speech by a feminist.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:54 PM
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The evidence (which you are ignoring) is that she was attacking this man because of feminist hate speech and mythology. Or do you actually think this 61 year old bus driver had threatened to rape her? You are like someone saying that a bunch of white youths burning a cross and putting nazi symbols on a black family's lawn has nothing to do with racism.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:53 PM
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If you're all in favour of adults raping kids why do you say she is "morally she's certainly in the wrong"?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:48 PM
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These days no child belongs to a man unless the mother died.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:42 PM
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Isn't that already the case going in?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:41 PM
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Wanted: man to pay me $100,000 to have sex with me once or twice, but you mustn't be doing it just for the sex or you're a creep. But couldn’t a woman with a loudly ticking biological clock be at risk from unscrupulous men looking for sex under the guise of co-parenting?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:39 PM
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Or that far fewer women are psychopaths and today being a psychopath is a requirement of being a "democratic representative".
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:32 PM
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Haven't they been sued over this (and lost) before?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:30 PM
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I'm famous and bad shit happened to ME so it's NOW worth an article! who drafted in a specialist female officer from 30 miles away "since there was a presumption that a child might have to be taken into custody" Apparently only female cops can handle children because.... all men are pedophiles.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:29 PM
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such things happen very very rarely Which makes me rather doubt the whole story. Although with all the hysteria I bet you could make a lot of money with an invention to "detect" it. Just preying on naive hysterical women who have been feared up by feminism.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:14 PM
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A lot of young women are teachers. Is this number any different from the general population?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:12 PM
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Feminists never say, "Oh well I don't think the empirical evidence agrees with that idea" they try to shut the person down with calls of misogyny or banning - as here. We're not talking about rational people here. We're talking about hate monger lunatics.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:09 PM
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If it's only targeting men then that campaign constitutes sexual harassment. Report it. It's creating a hostile environment for men by telling them they are being picked on by the authorities as if they were criminals.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:03 PM
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I haven't seen any recently.... maybe they are here because I've been lapse at running them off recently. And by "running them off" I mean talking to them critically.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:00 PM
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There's been limited roll-back of some of the many anti-male traditional sexist laws which happened as part of rolling back all the discriminatory laws effecting women. However especially when it comes to children, reproductive rights or family matters the traditional sexism against men still stands (and has got worse in the case of sexual crimes in many cases). Outside of those areas though, some old anti-male laws were struck down and some anti-male practises, especially in cases where men wer…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:58 PM
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"Every reported event"??? By "reported" you appear to be pretending this event didn't happen, but was merely "reported" to have happened. By "every" you seem to be trying to dismiss the culture of violence. This woman said that this 61 year old man was raping her or threatening to rape her. Now best case scenario (from YOUR point of view) is that she was just crazy. But then what drove this crazy girl to start thinking even 61 year old men are all trying to rape her? Oh gee, I dunno maybe it was…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:54 PM
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Yes it is indicative of malicious intent. She's been told that what she is doing is wrong and she continues to do it. especially if there's only a few homosexual girls in the school What the fuck difference does that make? She obviously is a danger to children because she raped a child and has zero remorse.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:51 PM
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If you mix a mature 14 years old with a child-like 18 Oh you think the 14 year old was mature enough to decide having sex with an adult was a good idea? Apparently her parents disagree with you on that one. I don't think she's a pedophile No, she's a rapist. I don't think she'll be preying on underage children in the future Just because she's done it once and sees nothing wrong with it.... if there's no exploiting, coercion or a position of power of one over the other Which obviously there is in…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:48 PM
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Women live years and years longer so... they need MORE medical attention? I guess that makes sense to an anti-male bigot. Not to anyone else though.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:25 PM
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Men die of almost everything more than women do (ie at a higher rate in matching age groups) so it seems like there's a common denominator that needs to be addressed and isn't.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:24 PM
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"good and fair" Because boys are naturally evil violent assholes of course. Can you imagine them having a female child and saying "make sure she doesn't grow up to be an asshole". Victim blaming.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:19 PM
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Yes or that a few white knights helped her beat someone up. Luckily the victim was 61 years old and in uniform. If he'd been another 27 year old then.....
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:17 PM
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Rape hysteria caused by feminists with the express desire to promote hatred and violence against men caused this. So yes it's a men's rights issue and an anti-hate issue. Whenever you hear a feminist talk about rape (and they talk about nothing else) it means "kill all men".
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:16 PM
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She approached the victim and asked if she could take his seat. He got up and sat next to his colleague. She's 27 and she's asking a 61 year old man to give up his seat??? (before stabbing him)
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:14 PM
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Laws that discriminate on the basis of sex against men are ten a penny, but can anyone mention any such law that discriminates against women?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:09 PM
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Adults shouldn't be having sex with 14 year old children. If the age difference was two years you'd have a point, if it was three years, maybe.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:05 PM
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Wow. What a sense of entitlement she must have, but then with the prosecutors falling over themselves to let her off the hook with a slap on the wrist why wouldn't she. Adult having sex with 14 year old child? Let's not call it rape. Let's offer her a sweet deal and only threaten her with some minor crime which we'll negotiate further down..... and she's so entitled she refuses the sweet deal and doubles down on contacting the child. Apparently nobody took her aside and told her that fucking 14 …
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:02 PM
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Black women want to dominate Eastern Asia?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:51 PM
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Actually the most Marxist early feminists were the most pro-male since communism was linked to the labor movement which was the "men's movement" of the day.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:50 PM
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locating those things about feminism that are not bullshit Why? It's better to repudiate the whole notion of hate than try to find the good things. Would you try to find the good in the Nazis? or in the KKK? Trying to do so would be counter-productive because it would look racist. It's the same with feminism. Trying to "find the good" in feminism sends a message that it's sort of OK to hate on men.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:49 PM
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That doesn't even make any sense. Even if you ignore that feminism is a hate movement.... the whole point of equality is a balance of things so the idea of an imbalanced balance is daft.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 09:17 PM
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Actually I can't think of feminists attacking class privileged white men ever..... only low class white men. They are allies of imperialists.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:56 PM
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Seems like a normal piece of hate speech by a feminist... "men are all evil" etc etc.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:54 PM
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Note that this is from 2011 and feminists changed the FBI/UCR definition since then. It still excludes male victims of women but is a little better.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:30 PM
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What makes you think feminism is a "solidarity movement"? Because it says it is? On that basis I guess the KKK speaks for all White people. One of the reasons this stuff is so funny is because it shows up how ridiculous the feminist claims to represent women are. It's not a "solidarity movement" (whatever that is), but a hate movement. Now substitute that data into your question and it answers itself: why don't we start asking POINTED questions about ANY hate movement that seeks to marginalize t…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 04:06 PM
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Libertard i assume. Only libertards can't tell the difference between right wing and left wing movements. All that ridiculous fascist = communist drivel they come out with. Political bimbos.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 04:00 PM
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There are some good examples of "feminists" who are willing to recognize their faults. Nah that's just part of the game. Chicks, man!
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:53 PM
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Yes this gets said about feminism every now and then and repeatedly... and it's true. Feminism operates by co-opting the legitimate victim status of legitimate minorities and using them to reinforce the status quo / conservative imperialism of middle class white women. This is the movement that literally claims middle class white women have it worse than black slaves had it. But for the most part these black women have gone along with all that shit. They did that. Nobody held a gun to their head…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:50 PM
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Always funny to see the haters fighting each other.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:44 PM
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Victim Olympics. She's not wrong about feminism being anti-left (that is the concept she is grasping for) but then she made her bed, and now she has to lie in it.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:42 PM
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Just your standard every day Victim Olympics within the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:40 PM
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No literally cops have no records of who is raped and make no attempt to figure out that. Feminists certainly know this as they often point out that police figures do not include many rapes that happen and are not reported. Cops only have records of the rapes they take on as cases which hardly ever includes male victims of female attackers because of the systematic and extreme bias of the police against men. Literally their stats on rape are recording their level of sexism against men and it's a…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:35 PM
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They have different connotations and its the connotation you're worried about here.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:31 PM
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Feminism draws its ideas directly from Marxism Feminism preceded Marxism so... impossible. Sure that won't stop you though.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 03:29 PM
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The article correctly sees that feminism is a philosophy that only exists because of force -- not persuasive argument. It incorrectly tries to identify the source of power as women withholding sex. In fact to a much larger extent it is male disposability / the fact that those who run our society value women over men. Now maybe that attitude of male disposability is in turn because of sex and childbearing over millennial but now that it's there it isn't going away just because someone invents rob…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:41 PM
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How Working As a Stripper Made Me Less Of An Asshole Misandrist FTFY. Not surprising. Any time members of hate movements are forced into proximity with a lot of members of the hated group and forced to engage with them and talk to them this is often the result. The real point is not that she suddenly realised men are human beings, but why did she not know that before?
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:32 PM
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"our stats show more men commit sexual crimes than women" Police don't keep such statistics. What they mean is, "we only bother to prosecute male rapists"
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:27 PM
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Feminism is a conservative movement consisting of authoritarian ideology. You can tell this simply by examining whether the authorities support or condemn feminism. From the president on down the imperial regime backs feminism and attacks socialism. Obviously there is nothing radical about feminism and nothing bad about a "backlash" against feminism or other authoritarian philosophies. Indeed all radical movements can be described as a "backlash" against the injustice of the status quo.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:26 PM
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I always just assumed that the figures on LGBT homelessness were strongly tilted towards male homeless. It goes without saying. Everything's better for women.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:41 PM
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Deliberately misleading heading for sure. Article reports girls doing better than boys.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:35 PM
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A succecss story involving boys It's not. it's simply headlined that way so as to stir up hatred of men. If you read the article it's not really clear what is going on but it appears as if girls are getting more As than boys. And it is not clear if the greater number of boys in the population at that age group has been factored in -- it probably has NOT which makes the girls lead even more pronounced.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:35 PM
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"unfounded" means the same as "no evidence". The policy seems to be one of simply misrepresenting the facts to the public so as to bolster feminist victimry. At any rate police are simply not in the business of judging what accusations are false and never have been despite feminists always trying to quote bogus figures based on police comments. Making a false accusation isn't a crime so police don't bother to figure out if it is happening.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:27 PM
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What's the deal? Not been following the case. I thought the sexism was mostly revolving around the public outcry that a woman was being treated as badly as a man because she was gay.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 06:32 PM
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The cops tend to ask them to let the "women and children" go first.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 06:21 PM
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redtube gives out dating advice now?
/r/MensRights15/08/13 06:07 PM
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It doesn't get beyond, "girls are always the real victims". Boys don't benefit, she said, from learning to be demeaning toward girls or to treat them as sexual objects
/r/MensRights15/08/13 02:43 PM
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Outright stated in the article that it happened.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:02 PM
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They're happy to stop with one article that agrees with them That article didn't even agree with them!
/r/MensRights14/08/13 06:45 PM
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Oh dear, you're mired in right wing bullshit. Men in power means men benefit. That's what feminists claim and you accepted that hook line and sinker but it's obvious bullshit. Men in power means women benefit, not men, because in case you hadn't noticed rich and powerful men love playing to the ladies and protecting them. They have no sympathy for poor men. The only exception is found among socialists, Marxists and trade unionists where poor men bandied together to benefit themselves and fight f…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:50 PM
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Your own source says they didn't vote any different from men for at least 30 years. The difference even today is marginal. Compare it with the "gap" of black people who vote 90-98% Democrat. If this argument were to be taken seriously then you ought to be saying that giving black people the vote was a mistake. it's ridiculous and offensive.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:47 PM
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I think that having a feminist debate board is a contradiction in terms. Can't help noticing from your comment history that you spend all your time deleting comments at that "debate" subreddit. Can't help noticing that you only ever delete comments critical of feminism. Total FAIL.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:44 PM
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Amazingly for a woman's column, I didn't think this was anti-male.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:37 PM
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because fuck men, that's why.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:27 PM
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Nah it goes back to Stalin who was trying to worm out all the fascist/Western sympathisers after the Western-backed civil war that killed ten million people in Russia. For some reason he figured gay men were associated with these Western traitors and the association stuck. The association was mostly bullshit but the threat from the West was very real.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:27 PM
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Did you mean "misandronistic"? Unlike “sick” lesbians who needed to be cured, men who desired other men were regarded as “criminals” who needed to be punished. Clearly and just as everywhere else, gay men were treated much worse than gay women.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:24 PM
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Ridiculous example of "correlation isn't causation". Plenty of things have grown bigger over the last century. Does the growth in car ownership match the rise in government spending too? Maybe car ownership causes government spending? Women don't vote much differently from men. It's all rather silly conservative stuff and pretty misogynistic.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:22 PM
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Why do you think white men are privileged? Most people are in favour of equality and therefore against prejudice and privilege. If you're not that kind of makes you an asshole. If you're not because you're a white male who has been fooled into thinking he is privileged then that kind of makes you an idiot and an asshole.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:17 PM
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To me as an anti-feminist (a type of anti-hate advocate) the issue about the wage gap is not so much why the wage gap exists, but why feminists chose to knowingly lie about it for decades. If you actually look at their web sites they stopped explicitly lying about it some time around the mid 1990s but they continued to push it as an idea with deniability. So many people now believe this lie and I tell them that if they look at the "source" they think they have saying men are paid more for the sa…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:44 PM
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I'm not an MRA but an anti-feminist. Came about basically from going on-line and asking feminists about their response to the arguments by Warren Farrell in "The Myth of Male Power" (this was back in the 1990s before feminists routinely banned critics -- a practise that started in part as a result of my inquiries). I wanted to get the other side of the story and what I found was that feminists had no answer beyond accusing Farrell of sexual crimes. But I stuck with it trying to figure out the mo…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:22 PM
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You stepped on their victimry entitlement.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:18 PM
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Actually their logic is, "fuck men"
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:17 PM
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LOL, if anyone posted anything critical of feminism there it would be instant ban time. But they already know the reaction here because it's been done before. I guess what would be really interesting is to see their response to that, but being feminist means never having to respond to your critics (and never being able to either).
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:16 PM
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The captain explicitly issued an order for women and children to be saved first Yes it's one of those "myths" that really happen. It's funny to see feminists turning themselves in knots over this stuff. "Oh that never happened" you know except of course when it did. At this point it's more interesting to ask the meta questions here. Like why is it so important that feminists lie about this stuff? Why is it such a huge deal to them that they present this falsehood so blatantly about shit that wen…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:12 PM
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First wave example (19th century): http://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1895/07/woman.htm While under our present marriage laws the wife is under no obligation to maintain the husband, not even though she have money and he be destitute (saving the ratepayer’s right to be recouped for his maintenance in the workhouse) the husband is bound at criminal law to maintain his wife in comfort under all circumstances. Hitherto exception has been made in the case of adultery on the part of wife. Now, in a …
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:31 PM
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Maybe some countries did have brutal ads featuring male victims and the US media just decided to skip them.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:22 PM
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Lose the "SJW" stuff. You mean "feminist".
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:50 PM
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it works
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:48 PM
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Because you've been paying attention?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:40 PM
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Isn't the sad part the actual direct victim of their attacks?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:38 PM
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I think it's just because it's such a young child victim. ETA: but I think you're right --- it's still unusual.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:29 PM
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I thought "rape culture" meant the feminist culture of anti-male hatred and lies, denigration of men's sexuality, co-option of victims for political purposes and false accusations?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:28 PM
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Because they can.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:25 PM
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it is unfair to generalize a massive and diverse movement by its radicals A statement you obviously don't believe because it's so stupid. This lack of thinking ability presumably stems from your absolute need to defend the hate movement. In any case I am not characterising feminism by it's radicals. All feminists show evidence that the movement is a hate movement. You're the one that has to ignore the evidence. I pointed out the extreme members of the mens rights community No you didn't. You per…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:21 PM
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Well that is a good thing I guess.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:31 PM
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No. because evidence.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:11 PM
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Most statistics show that there are more female rape victims than male rape victims That's false. I don't know of any statistics that do that. On the contrary the only stats I have seen suggest men are raped more often or a lot more often.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:36 PM
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Because it's women who make the rules.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:34 PM
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Easy enough to find some that pay men less....
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:33 PM
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I have a hard time believing that. You should probably go into some detail about whop you spoke to and what you said and what the reaction was. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:32 PM
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The court obviously just said fuck the law. That test compels any statute or other "state action" to meet two requirements prior to being found permissible and consistent with the Fourteenth Amendment. First, the classification by gender must serve "important" governmental objectives. Second, the classification by gender must be "substantially" related to achievement of those objectives. But in fact there are three criteria and the third is the most obvious namely that the law couldn't have been…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:31 PM
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You can't be a feminist and a decent human being; feminism is a hate movement. That's true regardless of anything about the MRM.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:15 PM
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female inequality includes where women are better off doesn't it? does it recognize any areas in which men do have an actual advantage over women? Can you actually name any? I always ask but people rarely can give an example.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:13 PM
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Seemed more like he was enjoying himself. ETA: maybe the same thing.....
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:48 PM
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gender studies ... fraud a redundant statement I would say
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:36 PM
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"not gender specific" -- men rape men too But of course talk about women raping men, and how something like 40% of rape is women raping men --- then see how those feminists react.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:25 PM
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some men accuse them of being "fake geeks" or demanding that they prove their "geek cred" by correctly answering trivia questions So is that a real thing or just made up bullshit? Couldn't tell from the links.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:19 PM
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Right. It's insincere and I think that's an important aspect here. It's not that these people are morons who just believe any accusation, or even any accusation by a woman, or any accusation of rape or sexual harassment. If someone accused PZ Meyers of the same stuff the feminists would immediately cry foul. it's not sincere; it's manipulation.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:14 PM
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Guilty until proven female.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:06 PM
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This again. You ever actually get any feminist to comment there?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 04:04 PM
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Anti-male hate as art.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:56 PM
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Is it normal for feminists to be so banhammer-happy Not only is it normal, it's mandatory. You will never find a feminist site that is not ban-happy. Reason is that any feminist site that did not defend its ideology that way would cease to exist. I haven't seen any such sites in twenty years now.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:51 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. The name is not very consequential although obviously a hate movement wouldn't be named something after equality.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:48 PM
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If you think one movement is a hate movement then logically you must think that about ALL movements No. Because "evidence". And quit being an idiot if you keep replying to me please.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:41 PM
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Lie--men are suffering differently I see a wall of text and you walking back your position.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 03:38 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. Do you "unreasonably" vilify every member of the KKK, and if so why?
/r/MensRights09/08/13 11:06 PM
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"individualist" feminism - you mean the web site by the Fox News commentator Wendy McElroy? There's no such thing as a good feminist.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 10:47 PM
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Maybe they hide it from me because I'm a man What part of "women's rumor mill" tipped you off to that?
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:15 PM
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Yes, and he's wrong.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:09 PM
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No I said they accuse you of a sexual crime. Not an "ism". And it's not simply an insult or even aimed at you. It's purpose is to rally a social attack against you. It's aimed at other people.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:03 PM
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I don't doubt the sincerity of their claims You should do. It's not sincere. It's doublethink. They know they are lying, but at the same time they have become very good at acting like they are not. Doublethink is the method of convincing yourself of your own lies, but at the same time knowing they are still lies and acting accordingly when needed. Sincerity is quite different.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:16 PM
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It's not a new low. It's a new high in terms of attacking a prominent victim. Normally he attacks people who can't fight back.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:14 PM
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There's really no such thing.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:12 PM
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Mmm I think they classify Hooters waitresses as performers (like an actor) and so they are an exception to the usual rules about protected class.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:11 PM
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Standard MO for feminists shutting down a man : accuse him of a sexual crime. (Presumably she assumed you were male.)
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:07 PM
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The way political hate works, they would have this blinkered vision and ideological dogmatism very largely limited to the specific field where they have these cult-like authoritarian views. It acts as a short circuit on their thinking so that if they know they have a loyalty issue it completely overrides their thinking rationally. Like a handy short cut. "If the question is about gender, I don't have to think because I know the answer is always to support feminism and attack men". So they might …
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:02 PM
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All of this bullshit started a couple years ago with It was started a little earlier than that at least. There was a blow-up about six months prior to Elevatorgate at a conference I went to that made national news (at least within the community) along the same aggressive feminist victimry lines.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:55 PM
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Pointing out you have no credentials -- or in fact any basis at all for your beliefs. They are based on prejudice. You're going to have to explain to me why women and girls being attacked with acid for trying to go to school is not infringing on women's rights I don't. You have to demonstrate that when the men get hit with acid that it somehow doesn't matter as much, or doesn't matter at all. why there's nothing whatsoever to the issue of forcing women to stay at home and cover themselves from h…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:51 PM
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where women do not have the same rights as men And you know this because you're a legal expert on those countries?
/r/MensRights08/08/13 04:53 AM
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Why have there been a sudden rash of these posts? Anyway it's pointless because feminists can't debate. If they could they'd come here and debate or else not ban critics on their own boards. The problem is not the lack of a location, it's the lack of integrity on the part of feminists.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 07:00 PM
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It's because traditionally the DV industry has been (and remains) dominated by bigots.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 06:05 PM
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Because female teachers upgrade female students and downgrade male students. "Conscientiousness" = prejudice by female teachers.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 06:01 PM
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Never heard of anyone calling themselves a "woman's rights advocate". Why would such a person exist? Women have a ton of rights.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 05:58 PM
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Explains why so many more men become politicians. Men suffer from all kinds of diseases and conditions more than women do.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:23 PM
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But because of the way the data will be slanted to present females as the victims it's important to consider this sort of data as an unconscious leaking of uncensored data passed the feminist filter.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:45 PM
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Being female is a privilege too. I notice they didn't list that one.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:38 PM
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"Not all feminists are like that" says almost nothing about the user's own place in the extremism scale Yes. It's a phrase they have realised deflects criticism and therefore they use it. And that's all it is. Junk words. But then pretty much all feminist apologia is junk words.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:34 PM
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and the women are the ones seeking out second wife status I assume that they always were the ones pushing for polygamy since ancient times. it is only feminist bigotry / ideology that would create the alternative "everything is men's fault" impression. Why the hell would a man want two wives? But almost all women like the idea of a rich husband instead of a poor one.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:29 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:26 PM
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I don't get it. Are you a woman saying this as satire?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:20 PM
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Right. Now I got NOW's forums closed down and was apparently (a feminist told me) featured in a book on feminism as some sort of super troll, banned from hundreds of boards. Yay, me.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:17 PM
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Yeah getting emotionally burned by the other members is a good way to leave the cult.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:15 PM
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comparing me to the KKK is really insulting and upsetting Why do you have such a poor view of the KKK? They're not all racists you know. Many of them love black people and work for equality -- like you. Gee, funny how when it's someone else's hate movement all that "not all XXX are like that" logic goes out the window, huh? You really think people in the KKK are all identical but feminists are all different? Why is that? Are you just (in your own words) an "asshole"?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:14 PM
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But a really low grade badge as it's so easy. A participation badge.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:50 PM
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Happens to everyone who questions or criticizes feminism there. Those subreddits as with all run by feminists have only one purpose which is to make feminism look better. Letting you post would make feminism look worse. Therefore ban everyone who isn't 100% on side.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:49 PM
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A true Ku Klux Klan member wants the best for both whites and blacks. Okay, I posted this to bring some joy to your world that a powerful feminist production/movement is focusing its work on mens' gender issues And you feel that link shows that do you? Really?? Help some asshole feminist get money so she can present men's issues as if they were just nothing but men having bad awwww feeeeeelingss. Aww men are hurt by the patriarchy too! Just like the KKK "pointing out" how shipping all the blacks…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:45 PM
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Next week: how the KKK is failing to promote African American issues enough.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:40 PM
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You didn't ask but anti-feminism differs from gender egalitarianism because it's anti-hate advocacy. ie criticising the hate mongers directly rather than some other aspect of pursuing equality.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 09:36 PM
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An anecdote from 3 decades ago by a biased source?
/r/MensRights02/08/13 09:34 PM
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No feminists will ever turn up. If they do, tell me btw.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:59 PM
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lying title defends women's violence. Girls are the perpetrators of some form of dating violence nearly as often as boys, surprising new studies show. More girls – 43 percent – than boys – 28 percent – reported committing an act of physical dating violence That's more than a 50% mark up reported by girls on the figure for boys. When girls commit a lot more violence they are "nearly as violent" or "equally" violent.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:58 PM
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Women are privileged, not oppressed. Comparing women to blacks' suffering is racist. it's an attempt to co-opt the suffering of a genuine minority group to boost the privilege and power of those already at the top.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:56 PM
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It's not the lack of a place to talk which stops feminists talking. it's the fact that it's hard (and embarrassing) to defend bigotry on an open forum.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:24 PM
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Paid much less for the same work? I bet that was much harder to find, because it's a lie. Usually the feminists in the last ten years just leave their reader to assume that is what they mean.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:20 PM
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if we are regulating business relationships we should also regulate personal relationships Traditional "business" was men's sphere so it all has to be made equal. Relationships are and were women's sphere so fuck equality there. Women grasp their advantages tightly.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:19 PM
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Sounds like a hostile work environment so illegal discrimination. In practise the authorities tend to endorse sex discrimination though because we live in a sexual apartheid state. Try turning up anyway.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:39 PM
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LOL, no. They hate men, and they hate the idea of men having any point of view on gender. They call it "mansplaining". They hate women who disagree with them even more. They are "gender traitors". Their idea of debate is to call people pedophiles and rapists and then ban them. I am not exaggerating either. This is all pretty typical of hate movements btw, it's not unique for feminism. But for feminism especially there's just no up side in talking to their critics because they'd just lose any deb…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:37 PM
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A lot of subreddits are that way; run by the hatemongers. Not a big deal; they're all tiny subreddits. The feminists just like to stamp their name on everything.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:31 PM
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were we post discussions related to both feminism and MRA So the same as this subreddit. Look someone has this "idea" every three days. The issue is that feminists will not debate because they are afraid of their critics. if that was not true you could just talk on any feminist board (or at least ONE on the entire internet). But it is true. The problem is inherent with the feminist movement and indeed with any hate movement. I'm also going to post this in /r/feminism to see what they think. Bann…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:14 PM
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What is the precise goal of feminism and can it be achieved? It's a hate movement. There's no specific end goal (unless you count exterminating all men which many feminists advocate for) because there's no end to the hate you can dish out. When I examine feminist literature, I see almost always a CLEAR attack on masculinity That's correct. And that's ALL there is to it.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 11:05 PM
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I do not hate men You deny hating men. That doesn't mean you don't hate men. You're part of a hate movement. What makes you think you don't hate men? Do you truly believe that men are oppressed anywhere? Anyone daft enough to ask this sure looks like they hate men to me.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 10:59 PM
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false rape accusations are extremely rarely taken seriously FTFY
/r/MensRights31/07/13 10:45 PM
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It's just an every day piece of hate propaganda depicting men as incompetent and useless. Thank you feminism.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 05:06 PM
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A hang over from the AIDS crisis. There are better ways to do this and if the demographic were not so 2nd class no doubt those better ways would be employed.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 04:59 PM
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If we are supposed to take the issue of "sexual harassment" seriously then what a woman wears at work, or how good looking she is, can certainly create a hostile work environment for men. In effect sexual harassment is bullshit, but we're used to taking bullshit from women and treating it seriously (eg "eeek it's a bug!") whereas when the rules are applied to men we just call it bullshit ("women should be allowed to wear what they like. you have a problem with it? tough luck!")
/r/MensRights26/07/13 04:57 PM
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It's hate propaganda similar to the posters the Nazis used to make about Jews.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 04:52 PM
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Well that's basic. If you give into that sort of terrorism / blackmail as feminists use, you simply empower the terrorist / blackmailer and encourage them to go further next time.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 10:11 PM
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And no doubt 100% of men.... but we wont bother to ask the same question of men.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 10:09 PM
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Perhaps you should get some sort of restraining order. Then that sort of shit becomes much more serious.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:07 PM
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It's not a big deal who's on the note (as it changes regularly anyway) but this sort of sexist bullshit victimry special pleading being taken seriously is what has given feminists so much power. Call it out for what it is -- bigotry. jane Austen is a fine choice but anyone who says it has to be a woman because blah blah blah is a sexist asshole denigrating men.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:52 PM
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It's probably illegal. It's usually illegal to deny the same publicly offered service to a specific group by race, religion or sex. it's the same as putting up a sign on a shop saying "no blacks".
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:48 PM
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yeah, and they left the movement twenty years ago.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:46 PM
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They aren't really distancing themselves from the "radicals" but it is a good development that they feel the need to be so apologetic all the time.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:45 PM
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It is a fact that men posses most of the wealth LOL, so much for your claim to being a skeptic then. That's really a pretty brain dead statement, ambiguous and completely unsourced. C'mon how are we supposed to take that seriously? Call me skeptical that you're a skeptic.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:40 PM
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Author doesn't appear to be a regular on /r/feminism Why do you think they are a feminist?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:36 PM
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They'll often haul off the man even if he is the 100% victim.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:28 PM
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This cannot be discussed unless we pretend it's really an issue of race. You can talk about black men getting shafted by the justice system, but not men in general.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:27 PM
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It is against the law to deny services offered to the general public to a specific group based on race or sex or religion in most places (increasingly also on the basis of sexuality). If the gym is a private club it would be legal. If it advertises generally to the public, illegal, unless it also has a male-only equivalent service.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:25 PM
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I assume that the phrase "women's" just comes up a lot more so it got included in the dictionary's term list. It might be a sign of how much more people talk about women than men in our society.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:23 PM
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Because men are evil, anti-male prejudice is justified I think you just provided the proof
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:12 PM
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Basically it would be treated like those extreme right wing religious "quiverfull" groups.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:35 PM
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At least you didn't get shot while carrying skittles. Young men get eyed suspiciously EVERYWHERE and it can be lethal.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:33 PM
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Cultural Marxism Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. You shouldn't really add to it by talking about it seriously.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:25 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. Stop trying to force a comparison where it doesn't exist. You might as well compare the KKK to the ACLU.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:23 PM
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MRA's and Feminists should stop working against each other and instead understand each other It's because they do understand each other that they work against each other. Feminists hate men and want to discriminate against them, and MRAs want equality. They are exact opposites.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:40 PM
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Let me say that I consider myself a feminist Then I consider you to be part of a hate movement and a big part of the problems facing our society. Yes, that was difficult Why did you find it "difficult" to recognize drop-dead obvious issues of sexism against men? I put it to you that you found it difficult because you're part of an anti-male hate movement.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:36 PM
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Perhaps you are so used to it that you don't even see it any more. But they all do it and all the time.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:29 PM
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This isn't prejudice It is prejudice. You're sexist.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:27 PM
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Black people often have the same issue. Yes I think most of us have that same issue. You're a product of a sexist society, as are we all. In fact not only are you probably unconsciously sexist against men a lot, you probably unconsciously apply that to yourself in many ways you're not even aware of. That is what it means to be reared in a sexist society.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:25 PM
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I hope that my fellow Men's Rights advocates stand by gay rights as well For the most part they do but not as MRAs. Many do and especially the younger generation. Unlike feminists MRAs don't try to co-opt the legitimate equality issues of other groups including gay people or transgendered people. They don't attempt to create some sort of grand schema to justify their existence -- the discrimination against men justifies their existence. Having said that there are gay issues that are men's issues…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:19 PM
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Don't know why the downvotes.....
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:13 PM
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cultural marxism Wtf is that supposed to mean -- and I'm a communist.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:11 PM
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Hurt feelings are the only "issues" feminists can name for women. This is an example of how conservatives (ie feminists here) tend to accuse others of what they are.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:10 PM
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They are probably breaking the law. Imagine if they said "black people can't use the changing rooms".
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:07 PM
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No feminist I know says that They all say that in their different ways, some directly, including some male feminists.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:03 PM
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masculine traits have been more beneficial than feminine traits for most of our existence You're forgetting that child bearing has been very important up until about a few decades ago. Sure these days half the people don't even want kids and it's all perfectly safe, but for most of history and pre-history, having kids wasn't optional because they were your only security in old age, and furthermore it was a bloody dangerous business with death in child birth common.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:02 PM
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I've met very few people who are gender supremacists. Because you're a woman and a feminist? We focus on women's rights because most of us are women Just like the KKK never saw a racist, just people "focusing" on White rights. Privileged people can never see their privilege? oh wait - that only applies to dirty males, right? Listen to the other side. Really try to absorb what they're saying Oh I bet you do that so much.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 06:08 PM
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Probably illegal, but accepted practise if it shits on men.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 06:04 PM
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Same.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 06:01 PM
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Don't mention why --- don't mention how easy it is for men to be falsely accused.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 06:00 PM
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Desperately trying to make it an issue of race not gender. Less than 15 percent of teachers, in all grade-levels, are black Less than 13% of the population is black.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:59 PM
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Why aren't the White knights being prosecuted? their victim was hospitalised (although that fact is barely mentioned in the saga of the White Woman in Peril).
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:56 PM
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The extreme side of this community tends to lean towards misogyny example? Yeah feminism is a hate movement - it's not symmetrical at all, and hatred of men is something publicly applauded within that movement not any sort of "extreme". Why can't we drop the gender and fight for human rights and equality? Like saying why don't we drop the issue of racism while we fight the KKK. When we pit the genders against each other That's the goal of feminism. So are you against feminism or not? I am being …
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:54 PM
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Only 90%? that's a big improvement isn't it?
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:36 PM
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Survey finds many Australian employers value people with few rights or protections over people with many FTFY
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:36 PM
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Women commit far and away most domestic abuse. Feminists make the figures for child abuse and abuse of the elderly "disappear" by only talking about intimate partner abuse --where women "only" account for about half.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:28 PM
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Having total control over the children is a primary concern for women. They tend to get jealous of fathers having time with their kids or doing well with them. It's fine if dad is just "helping out" but a mothers identity is far too often wrapped up with being the controller of the kids. Women simply would not allow men to have equal rights over children. This isn't really addressed much... and now I can see you really didn't mean to say "equal parenting rights" but equal reproductive rights (eg…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:25 PM
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Yeah the next 200 years they'll be all over that.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:17 PM
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Women would not stand for men having equal rights over their children. They simply would never let it happen.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:14 PM
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Outstanding example of feminist entitlement and blindness. Men "backing out" already is illegal, but the feminist apparently just forgot.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:13 PM
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They certainly can. They'll tell you that you're a mansplaining pedophile rapist.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:07 PM
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Better to be an anti-feminist. Feminism is a cancer eating away at our society and anyone who is egalitarian (a word which is hardly necessary since basically everyone is, so why have a word for it?) ought to be doing something to bring them down.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:02 PM
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Alternet has a feminist problem........
/r/MensRights23/07/13 04:56 PM
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Feminists are conservatives allied with the imperial state. They are cybersquatting those sites.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 04:33 PM
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It's discrimination and it's been found to be illegal in many cases in the USA.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 08:47 PM
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Says all you need to know about the so-called "patriarchy". Men in charge means women do better.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 08:44 PM
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Integrity -- it's what feminist can't afford to have.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 08:34 PM
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Because they are what liberals call "hypocrites". Feminists are conservatives so they don't really recognise hypocrisy as a moral issue. To a conservative it is rational to treat people like you better than hated minorities (ie men, to a feminist), and to have a different set of moral standards to the actions of people like you, and the enemy.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 08:27 PM
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Can we get some kind of filter on new accounts posting? Common sense is the filter
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:58 PM
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Well that's the way all the time. Any time anything bad happens to a black man, everyone has to pretend it's because they were black -- as if black women are getting gunned down like that too.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:31 PM
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That's fine if that's what you think (although as I say it's not productive), but as an anti-feminist I'd say there's a bigger issue here than men's rights. Feminism is a toxic force that threatens society as a whole, not just men and not just "men's rights".
/r/MensRights15/07/13 12:13 AM
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slandering I don't need to make up shit. I leave that to the feminists.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 11:27 PM
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demonizing feminists is more important than celebrating a man receiving justice, because the former is what leads to the latter
/r/MensRights14/07/13 11:10 PM
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That came out of absolutely nowhere It's the way the FBI just changed their definition of rape for example. It's the way feminists say "patriarchy hurts men too" for example. It's a pattern of behaviour that concedes male victims but only if they are used to marshal a larger argument that calls men the real criminals and helps to hide the great majority of male victims.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 10:18 PM
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men can be raped but only if they are raped by penetration Is that a win too?
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:50 PM
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I do think the guys at Edmonton have done a great job but I would prefer to have gone with, YOU CAN STOP HATE by rejecting feminist narratives that paint all men as rapists
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:42 PM
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This is kind of like saying men can be raped but only if they are raped by penetration. Men can be victims of sexual harassment but only if they are harassed as if they were a woman. That is not equality.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:37 PM
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I don't think the Holocaust was really "maginified" Well six million dead during the war and about, what? none or a few dozen before? I'd say 6 million was more but I guess you see those numbers as about equal.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:30 PM
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Way the fuck too low. Even the studies that conclude most rape accusations to police / authorities are fabricated (ie the ones that seriously investigate the issue) are still only counting the accusations that get as far as the police / authorities.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 06:00 PM
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I don't know what the fuck I am talking about Correct. No sarcasm.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:56 PM
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I don't think the Nazi comparisons are unwarranted. Most of the worst stuff the Nazis did was during the war which has a tendency to magnify many crimes as it did on both sides. To seriously argue that the comparison is exaggerated you'd have to pretend that the Nazis were killing millions of people in peace time. They were not.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:55 PM
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Most rapes are committed by men, right? No. Inside my bigoted mind Oh right, well yes then.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:53 PM
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Yes and there's even more women who need to be told not to rape young men by the same score but you won't see a poster saying that ever will you? Of course to call these episodes "rape" as if they were the same as a real rape is ridiculous feminist hysteria to begin with.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:52 PM
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Bullshit. Most 'studies" that "report" numbers like that are not studies at all.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:50 PM
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Well so far so good, but the next step is to ask what it means when the state is promoting hatred against a minority group? Institutional hatred of a minority group is called apartheid. When you have the leaders of Canada's police and government defending political hatred of a minority group that is saying Canada is an apartheid state.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:49 PM
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That seemed utterly unbalanced tripe to me.... but then I read the words and didn't play the video. Still hatred and lies is pretty much a "win" as a reaction at this stage.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:38 PM
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Because she wasn't unconscious when she gave her drunk "rapist" a blow job.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 04:20 PM
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Apparently they dont even know what the ERA is.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 12:20 AM
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Some people identify as feminists because they believe in equal rights Some say that
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:57 PM
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No you were making up shit.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 05:08 AM
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I don't see how that makes me a liar or an asshole Well I can't be bothered to explain it for you again.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:54 AM
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No.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:53 AM
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Basically an excuse for feminist bigotry.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:43 AM
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For one, that VAWA refuses men protection in DV situations I actually said VAWA 1994 and you are not quoting from there are you? As i said last time you're an asshole and a liar and you make up shit that you don't know about and hold to it dogmatically. All behaviour very much in keeping with feminism btw. You'll like those people much more. Of course they won't like you. ETA: that text you are quoting is from VAWA 2005 but it's been changed to remove it more recently. And of course feminists th…
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:40 AM
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I think only one feminist didn't pull the old "patriarchy" slogan out. And she attacked all MRAs some other way.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:38 AM
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Downvoted to zero it out, but you were not actually instantly banned? Are you banned yet? Hey I noticed that when asked to provide examples of your criticisms on that board -- you actually could! Funny how that works, eh?
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:37 AM
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I'm surprised they mentioned that fact. Usually such institutions try to pretend the majority of victims are women even if there's only one. Or if not the majority that the female victims are especially deserving of sympathy for some reason. or that they are "the fastest growing minority" (because one -> two is a 100% growth rate I guess)
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:32 AM
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This sounds like you ought to link to a prior article on this subreddit explaining the context.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:29 AM
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So the cops job is to harass and cuff innocent people? Guess you live in America then.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:26 AM
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:23 AM
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Advice only applies with women of course. If it was a male trespasser they'd have kicked his ass faster than you can say "knife".
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:21 AM
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Frankly it seems the cops acted responsibly Don't you think they should have cut his balls off just to be safe?
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:19 AM
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Male is the new black.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 04:14 AM
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Shame about that last line. In fact that notion of 'revenge" is seen as legitimate by many people under propaganda by feminists which is why feminists spend a lot of time convincing people that -- even if you can't see it today so well, men surely have been evil assholes throughout all history, and therefore deserve to be fucked over.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:39 PM
1

Has there's ever been a conviction of a woman for raping a drunk man? Has any man tried to get a woman prosecuted for raping him while he was drunk? In the scenario you lay out (ie the Steubenville scenario) only the male is prosecuted as a rapist. Try Googling "woman accused of raping drunk man" and see what Google does with the word order.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:03 PM
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It exists but it isn't used to drug people in bars.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:58 PM
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Well.... it's in Canada
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:13 AM
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But of course there would be no need for the image to be made if it was actually true.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:22 AM
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Too be fair, feminism is a cult-like pseudo religion, and it's a religious board.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:11 AM
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Nobody has bothered enough to ever find out.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:08 AM
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The posters certainly reconfirmed that trying to be nice about bringing a message doesn't work.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 05:05 AM
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The University of Alberta ordered the posters be taken down, saying that while free speech is respected LOL. Love hypocritical assholes being shown up for what they are.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 04:58 AM
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The difference is : fuck men.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 04:52 AM
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No biggie and it's a nice gesture Actually it's propagating a hateful stereotype of men as predators using an urban myth. Nobody drugs drinks. The drink (alcohol) is already a drug, and deliberately taken by people to enable them to hook up. It would be better to have a sign saying "don't buy drinks here", but that seems unlikely to be supported by the bar owner.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 04:50 AM
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She was guilt of a bunch of other violent crimes not mentioned in the article.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:28 PM
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This is an old case. If you read up on the details of it she was a very violent person who not only nearly shot the man but also the kids. She went on to commit various other acts of violence (none having anything to do with defending herself) even when out on bail from the previous lot.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:26 PM
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She's the "creeper".
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:35 PM
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They did turn away a woman -- he was accompanied by his (adult) daughter.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:42 PM
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No attempt in the article to explain what must seem very strange to idiots who believe the feminist wage gap crap (a conspiracy theory repeated in the article). How can women afford to buy houses twice as often if they are paid less? The answer is that the women are paid more than the men.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:39 PM
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illegaly obtained evidence is not admissible I think that's just if the police obtained evidence illegally, not individuals. There aren't really laws limiting private individuals getting evidence because that's not their job and so there's no constitutional issue (4th amendment) or issue of corruption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:34 PM
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sexually abusing Well thank goodness they're not raping them at least, since that's impossible, them being only males.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:15 PM
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You don't understand the word hate you're using. People who are advocates for X don't suddenly start hating people of another group, just because they are very committed to helping group X. That's absurd as well as an insult to any committed advocate. Besides which it's the great majority of feminists who support eg legal discrimination against men in the VAWA 1994 when it was being pushed for. To suggest that only a tiny number of feminists supported that is absurd. VAWA does not make it illega…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 02:37 PM
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So you're dismissing the criminalization of male sexuality and dismissing equal reproductive rights for men. I think that adequately demonstrates that you don't know of any issues facing women.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 02:32 PM
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What part did you not understand? This is not exactly rocket science here. I'm beginning to think you're just acting dumb and trolling this board.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:06 AM
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Well you act like an asshole frankly. I don't assume you're a feminist but you're obviously pretty hostile and aggressive. You're dogmatic, sexist, evasive. Not that it matters. We get that all the time from real feminists. Political hatred is not talking to people on an internet board. You are misusing the word.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:05 AM
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You suggested that the MRA promote men's rights over women. I am tired of your little word games and evasions.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:02 AM
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You didn't answer the question. Was it a hard question for you?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:01 AM
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So in your view if you pursue advancement for women in an extreme way that means you hate men? Doesn't that mean that a movement that advances women is one that hates men? And many women would disagree Since few women are feminists you're wrong (yet again). Another example of you pulling facts out of your ass. Really what is the purpose of this conversation if you're just going to do that? Source I already told you: the 1994 VAWA
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:00 AM
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VAWA was basically a sort of federal take over of the funding for DV. The federal government enforces its will on the states through funding so as to get around the constitution. If you recall Reagan did this to enforce a drinking age of 21 using the threat of loss of highway maintance monies I think. VAWA provides billions of dollars of funding for DV shelters but it is conditional on obeying the rules of VAWA's funding, and one of those rules is that no male victims can be helped using VAWA fu…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:58 AM
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You disagree about this social issue. I am not surprised as you're clearly very influenced by feminist hate on this and other topics. A cougar is a woman who goes after younger men specifically So she's a particularly immoral sort of slut? Shouldn't "cougar" be a very insulting term indeed then? But of course it is not. Women's sexuality is not denigrated in our society as men's is. But I am sure you will never agree. Your "issue" is at best totally subjective and at worst a packet of lies inten…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:43 AM
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I have no particular opinion about the MRA but I don't know of them behaving to attack women's rights and I think neither do you. You are sounding off and making big claims but I've seen you back up none of it. And I am getting tired of it. Stop bullshitting. If you make a claim back it up. As it is you are looking like a hatemonger here because you are spreading anti-male lies here and refusing to explain yourself.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:35 AM
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Man hating is the extreme of feminism I am asking you to explain what you mean. I am now thinking you mean nothing by that statement. If man hating is extreme then what is the not extreme? It would have to be hating men but not too much. However you deny this but offer no explanation. Feminism is based around the idea of female empowerment Many MRAs would agree that feminism is a female supremacy movement but in fact feminists do little to nothing for women. In the same way the KKK may say they …
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:33 AM
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Everyone should be paid the same based on hours worked Even if some people have to face danger and others do not? Should they get paid the same then?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:28 AM
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Alternatively, and more likely from my perspective is that you're not being truthful. At any rate enough of this line of conversation.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:27 AM
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it took only measurable numbers So it hardly took anything into account then? Why even bother to use it as a source if you knew it was so flawed?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:26 AM
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Your conclusion is based on reasoning which assumes that which you seek to prove. You simply assume feminism is not a hate movement and use that to forward an argument to that same conclusion. Circular logic. If something is a hate group, than responding to them with hate is acceptable No, it isn't. You are the one charaterising MRAs reaction to feminism as hate. It is not. You are misusing the word. However, if something is not a hate group, yet you act hatefully towards them as a whole, it is …
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:25 AM
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No. Feminists censor their critics which is why its hard to debate them. That doesn't change regardless of how many forums you create (and there have been many tried) or what you call them. If feminists want to talk they can do so here. They generally do not, and none for any length of time.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:54 AM
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I told another staff member Why did you have to tell a second staff member?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:45 AM
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Again I remind you that the chief lesson of the wage gap myth as applied to feminism is that feminists have deliberately lied about the wage gap for forty years so as to denigrate men.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:41 AM
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You think programmers tend to get paid by the hour? I doubt what you are saying is accurate (no source so I can't check) but it hardly matters does it? Hours worked is just one of about twenty five different factors that could be named in a similar manner. Are you going to claim that your source took all twenty five different factors into account? And even if it did your argument becomes an argument of the gaps. It's an argument based on a lack of imagination. Let's say that men get paid more th…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:36 AM
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So your reasoning is circular.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:28 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:27 AM
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For some reason that link isn't working for me. The pdf won't load. Do you think that everyone who works in the same field ought to be paid the same regardless of eg how many hours they work per week? If a woman works 26 hours is it fair that she be paid what a man who works 50 hours gets? Is that sex discrimination if she is not paid the same?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:26 AM
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Again you are not understanding what radical means. If you are using it to mean simple an extremist then they have to be extreme at something. What is man hating supposed to be the extreme of?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:22 AM
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So you think feminism is not about equality but about promoting women over men?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:21 AM
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Are women who have a lot of sex not viewed poorly in today's society? Not as badly as men who have a lot of sex are. Male sexuality is seen as dangerous and predatory (to women). Women who sleep around are seen as endangering themselves by associating with a lot of men. It's because male sexuality is seen as evil and predatory that women who sleep around are seen that way. And are men not viewed positively when they have a lot of sex? No they are not. I guess you've been listening to feminist pr…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:17 AM
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God I hate people who pretend to know about stuff they don't. I take it you're pretty young then?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:11 AM
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The Violence Against Women Act of 1994 made it illegal to help male victims of domestic violence using federal funds. It was explicitly discriminatory as desired and heavily lobbied for by feminists of all kinds.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:46 PM
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slut shaming What? That's not a real thing. And you say men deserve no reproductive rights. Obviously you are influenced by feminism's sexism and anti-male animus. Men don't have the right because they made the decision to have sex So did women, but women deserve rights and men don't? Sexism.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:45 PM
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People in the same work do not do the same work. For example one might work 40 hours and the other 36. One might have been working in that job 15 years and the other 4.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:44 PM
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What evidence can you provide that feminism is about equality? How do you explain the extreme hatred of men in an equality movement? How can feminism be about equality if there are no issues where women are behind men? You do not appear able to substantiate your opinion.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:43 PM
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You named two: the wage gap and abortion. The wage gap is a fraud. Abortion is an issue where women have more rights than men do. Neither is an example of an issue for women or where women lack rights that men have.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:41 PM
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a radical is someone who takes their viewpoint to an extreme If feminists who hate men are extreme feminists then all feminists must hate men but only somewhat. Is that what you intended to say?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:40 PM
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I doubt that is what the labor department of Pittsburgh says. You probably misread it. Generally these statistics are presented in a misleading manner. Often deliberately. If you can present the source I might be able to help you debunk it. I'm not saying that the entire gap is due to nothing but discrimination But that is what feminists mislead people into thinking. The point is that the wage gap as feminists present it is a fiction designed to make women hate men. Now what issue are we discuss…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:37 PM
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About 75-80% of women are not feminists, and even higher for men. I doubt you know 120-150 women so I suggest to you that some of those women were not feminists at all, or certainly not people who are active in any sense. At any rate I've talked to far more feminists than that (hundreds) on-line, but if you doubt what i am saying go check it out.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:29 PM
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MRA clearly has bigots in its midst Go ahead and try to substantiate that. Pretend your views required evidence. almost all of the responses are showing full hatred of the idea of feminism; how is that not bigotry? If I hate the KKK is that bigotry too? If I hate Nazis is that bigotry in your view? You have made a mistake based on feminist ideology that pretends that the word "feminist" means the same as "women" or that somehow feminists represent women. They don't any more than the KKK represen…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:26 PM
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Human beings place a great deal of value on children. The idea that some physical discomfort is worth more than a child to a parent is ridiculous and in this case obviously sexist, as is the implication that men make no contribution to their children.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:16 PM
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MRAs don't censor all criticism of their movement as feminists do, and so there's no need for a separate forum. Of course the funny thing is the /r/AskFeminists subredit just bans people who ask critical questions too. Relly all it is for is to stop people bothering them and forcing them to do a lot of banning in the "real" feminist subreddits.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:04 AM
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Because the root of the problem is the oppression of women Like what?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:02 AM
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Is this a joke?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:00 AM
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Why should the men have more of a say when it comes to abortion? Here we take it as axiomatic that men and women are equal and therefore have equal right to an opinion about ethical issues. I'm sorry to see you disagree. No doubt that is the feminist influence on you because they commonly deny men a voice.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:58 AM
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the idea that Feminists are primarily misandrists That is a fact. It is a hate movement by any reasonable definition of hate movement. Feminists lobby for laws that discriminate against men. Feminists tend to dismiss or encourage violence against men. Feminists spread lies intended to portray men as a violent threat towards women (especially lies about far away places and times in the past). Feminists believe in collective guilt for men. Feminists are constantly denigrating men in society and cr…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:55 AM
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Feminism is a hate movement. if you think that's unlikely then can you please explain to me why some of the most prominent and famous feminists in the movement's history have been extreme so-called "radical" man haters? What kind of equality movement not only has bigots in its midst but actually pushes them into popular leadership roles?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:52 AM
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I've spoken to many a feminist about the topic Feminists ban all critics of their ideology so I assume you were extremely careful to not say anything critical of them. They are basically like a cult as far as their openness and intellectual integrity. in fact if you posted a similar article at /r/feminism you'd probably be banned.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:50 AM
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there was a 2c difference in women-to-men wages that couldn't be explained That's like saying that god must exist because we haven't explained everything yet. How many factors did they account for? 25? I've never seen a study that accounted for more than about six or eight at best. Even the single best factor when taken into account by itself accounts for about 90% of the gap. But this is not the real issue here. The real issue is that why do feminists continue to lie and state that the entire g…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:48 AM
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this is not a battle Feminists have lobbied to make it illegal to help male victims of domestic violence (and succeded btw, for a few years) because it is a zero sum game to them because they are a hate movement.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:43 AM
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there are issues for Women as well Name them.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:42 AM
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Women are lacking in rights as well. No, they are not. Abortion? Women have the right to avoid becoming a parent and men do not. Women have far better rights than men. Equal pay? that again is a man's issue as women are not paid any less for the same work (feminists lie about that), but men are the ones who are pressurized (and therefore die years earlier) into inbalanced patterns of work and non-work. And you have no 3rd example do you?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:42 AM
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For sure these lies are endlessly repeated by all the leaders of our feminized society from the president on down.... although if you actually check the exact wording of what they say you will usually find that they don't exactly say what you think they are saying. They don't say women are paid less than men for the same work much these days. They just say "women are paid less" and let you infer that they mean "for the same work" because (you figure) if they only mean "women are paid less when t…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:39 AM
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It's been known to be false for 40 years. Feminists deliberately lie to create an atmosphere of hatred against men, which is the real point of their movement. Basically it's a conspiracy theory, like going around saying that the Jews run all the banks. The effect is to make women have a sense of entitlement because they "know" that they are treated worse than men and men are assholes to women. This makes it easier for women to support feminist hate.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:35 AM
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such as equal pay and abortion rights The so-called wage gap is a conspiracy theory. It's fake... and abortion rights are something where women are far ahead of men. I bet you can't name a single legitimate issue facing women in the USA can you?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:30 AM
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Feminists are all "radicals" in the sense that you meant. What you meant by "radical" wasn't what the word radical means btw. The word you are looking for is "bigot". I know it's confusing because feminists constantly excuse bigotry within their movement by dismissing it as the work of "radicals". Think about it. A radical person for equality isn't against equality. You might as well say a radical vegan is a cannibal. If you're against equality you're not "radically" for equality. You're not for…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:27 AM
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It's not your responsibility to lock your door, it's the responsibility of the burglar!
/r/MensRights07/07/13 05:17 PM
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And of what possible relevance is that?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 02:58 AM
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when we have common ground Yeah, about that....
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:52 AM
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Because we don't ban people from the main board for questioning our beliefs. That's why there's an /r/askfeminists Not that it worked. They just ban people on both boards now.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:27 PM
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you nevertheless win because at least you fucking allowed me to ask it And that's WHY we don't concede anything to feminism. Congratulations for finding it for yourself. Most of us had to go through it for ourselves too because the default reaction is to give people a chance. At least they didn't call you a rapist, pedophile or stalker.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 04:56 PM
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by letting them kill men over and over in a male murder sim. Isn't that already every first person shooter there is?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 01:37 AM
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Look this has already happened in many states and there's several cases. I don't know of any that didn't agree that the raped child should have to pay CS.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:58 PM
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and she gets pregnant He forces her to have the baby. Remember that the female rapist doesn't give the kid she rapes any choice about becoming a parent. Can the rapist sue for custody? Who would give child custody to a male rapist?
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:57 PM
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This has happened in many states. Who thought this wasn't real?
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:55 PM
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Men are so disgusting they could literally rape all the women just by entering the women's bathroom when it is empty.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:45 PM
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Because of feminists lobbying for discrimination favouring women over men.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:44 PM
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Yes the social limits are placed on men and not women. The double standard can be found far back in history too, eg the bible.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:42 PM
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It's just another example of feminist hate speech.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 10:39 PM
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Is she still a Fox News commentator? I guess she calls herself a feminist but nobody else does.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 04:05 AM
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I challenge you to find verifiable data that says otherwise http://www.jofreeman.com/photos/CodePink.html http://www.feminist.org/news/pressstory.asp?id=7631 I don't recall them going bad until after the war started, although I suppose that was true of a lot of people. And of course most feminist organizations are not especially anything to do with war or peace or foreign policy.... but this was pretty amazing: http://original.antiwar.com/scott/2009/10/07/is-medea-benjamin-confused/ That's six y…
/r/MensRights30/06/13 03:58 AM
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Sexual harassment law suit
/r/MensRights30/06/13 03:47 AM
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Yes a lot of people started to treat it as "take your kid to work day" and this really pissed off the feminists who insisted that boys be left out of it because the whole point was to treat the girls better than the boys. The whole point was to enforce sexism on the boys and make them second class citizens as a punishment for being born male.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 04:12 AM
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Once again, you don't even know what sexual harassment is. Now I would think having this already proved to you once in this conversation would at the very least give you pause before spouting off more shit. But no. I have a very low tolerance for deliberate stupidity.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 04:05 AM
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Right. I was forgetting that America is the land of the servile.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 04:02 AM
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If sexual harassment law was enforced evenly and not in an obvious and intentional anti-male manner, that would be an entirely reasonable and important complaint.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:13 PM
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I think you're anti-worker attitude shows that the OP was entirely correct. Nobody real can work in conditions like that.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:12 PM
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As with many other feminist laws it is worded neutrally but enforced entirely with anti-male prejudice. Even the "neutral" wording is biased against men as it tends to talk in terms of only female victimization. How for example is a man supposed to complain about women looking at his breasts? Thanks for doing my work for me You are basically just a troll. This discussion is over.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:10 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement. If you chose that label you're going to create a lot of anger, and you'll deserve it. As for your title question the answer is you don't need to call yourself anything at all because most everyone says men and women should be equal. However most people in practise ignore areas where men are disadvantaged because of the feminist hate movement's constant denigration of men and male victims of crime. So if you're someone who takes a particular interest in men's rights y…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:01 PM
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Well no doubt you will get advised to "find new friends" but it's not always that simple is it? Yes it is costly to stand up for what is right and make a statement when someone around you is making sexist or racist comments, especially so if others appear to back them up. You don't have to make a big argument about it though. It's enough to just trip up their prejudiced line of thinking. All you have to do is say, "that's sexist" or "that's racist" or even "that's not right". That's all. You don…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:56 PM
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Do the MRAs really want to get as fucked up victimy and anti-sex as feminists?
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:50 PM
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The difference is due to institutional sexism against men. It's been this way throughout history. Girls and women are protected while men and boys are not. That goes double if anything sexual is involved. Nevertheless, while it would be taken less seriously, a 30 year old woman messing with a 13 year old boy is obviously still going to be treated as a serious matter. If you're actually in that situation (I'm going to guess you're not) then follow the advise about telling an adult, as posted else…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:47 PM
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http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sexual_harassment.cfm It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person’s sex. Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature. Harassment does not have to be of a sexual nature, however, and can include offensive remarks about a person’s sex. For example, it is illegal to harass a woman by making offensive comments about…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:40 PM
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You know exactly what I mean Yes you were spreading a false narrative about women being somehow banned from the work place and I challenged you. Hence sexual harassment doesn't only apply to in a work place environment Oh for fucks sake another idiot who makes up shit about stuff they don't know. Yes sexual harassment only applies in certain specific situations, typically, the work place (also in education institutions sometimes). She would have just been fired Then her problem was a lack of wor…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:34 PM
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Spreading lies about minority groups to spread hatred, and especially if those lies are about revisionist history, is a good sign of a hate movement.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:23 PM
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When women were first allowed into the workplace In 10,000 BC This idea that women are the only people ever subjected to less than perfect work conditions is bullshit. And as for serious issues like assault they were and are covered by real laws about --- gee guess what? --- assault. If something is serious enough to be a problem it's a problem whether it happens at work or not. If it's a problem then it should be criminal for women as well as men. Sexual harassment is bullshit pseudo-Victorian …
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:12 PM
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nobody did complain, and nobody did go to HR They didn't have to
/r/MensRights27/06/13 11:56 PM
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That's all the intention of sexual harassment laws; they're bullshit laws designed to criminilize normal behaviour (only when a man does it of course), designed by one of the most openly man-hating feminists ever.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 11:55 PM
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Because feminists run all the Title IX offices.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 11:48 PM
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Everything they say they "hate"? they worked hard to create. What they do hate is men. It's a hate movement. Denigrating men is what they do. Telling lies about men is what they do. Creating violence and bitterness and fear towards men is what they do.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:36 PM
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the large periods of time when rape was considered acceptable and they didn't have the right to vote or own property This of course never happened. You appear to be busy denigrating men even now. This is the proof of your own hate and your participation in a campaign to denigrate all men, as a feminist. And of course you did just say that men consistently throughout all history were behaving in an evil way. The obviously implication is you are saying men are inherently evil. that's your feminist…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:16 PM
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Standard feminist hate ideology. Men are all "dominant" and "oppress" women" throughout "all time". It's just their "basic nature" you say. Hate speech.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:05 PM
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Yeah, that is feminism.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:03 PM
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any self-respecting feminist They don't exist.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:42 PM
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Yes it's true, no there's no push-back. As for why it's because of centuries of historic sexism against men I suppose.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:40 PM
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Women are already ahead. This isn't about equality of anything.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:38 PM
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They just delete stuff from men.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:37 PM
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They don't actually believe that of course. This sort of statement is simply meant to shore up female victimhood and downplay any sort of compassion for men. It's like saying, "women are innocent and men are evil" again and again and again but a little bit more subtle. It's a slogan designed to denigrate men, and spread hatred.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:36 PM
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"Meteor to destroy Earth. Women and children especially at risk" Feminism likes to portray men as sub-human and therefore of no concern when it comes to issues of compassion or human rights. This is a basic piece of hate that the feminists have been pushing for 150 years. Compassion is for good people -- that means women and children only.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:33 PM
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What part of "despised minority group" did you not understand? Try comparing your plight with people who worked for Civil Rights in the 50s and 60s. "Ooooohh I had a mean meme made about me"
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:28 PM
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It has a lot of issues but I can't articulate what those are Very droll.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:25 PM
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This is simply a statement of feminism's fundamental ideology.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:24 PM
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I've never been married and don't have kids You don't say.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:23 PM
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Title IX co-ordinator is a job for the girls; part of the feminist gravy train that the US government gives them in exchange for their support on keeping down socialism and encouraging imperialist wars. These aren't random women of mixed political views.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 04:11 PM
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doesn't mean they aren't also the cause of one another doesn't mean they are
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:42 PM
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Yes, I know.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:35 PM
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The "why" is easy. This is the result of decades of lobbying by feminists for unequal treatment favoring women.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:06 PM
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That would be valid if there was a free market but of course men can't get those plush female only high paying jobs can they? The only way you can enforce unequal pay is by limiting who can get the job. You think any of those bin men can walk into a nursery job? "Eeeew pedophiles!"
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:05 PM
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Want to get paid as if you had a horrible and dangerous job but get to stay inside? HAVE A PUSSY.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:03 PM
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That sounds like a bad case of correlation is not causation. Justice systems are designed to catch men and ignore women. More developed countries have more resources so they can afford to chase female criminals too, though not nearly as much as male. More developed countries also tend to have more of an emphasis on "women's rights". Look at DV in the USA for example. The figures for female criminals shot up but it certainly wasn't because somehow women had more opportunity to hit their husbands …
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:00 PM
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She then argues that a gender-neutral policy is in fact more harsh against women LOL. Nice piece of feminist trash. If you look at the actual statistics you see women are treated not a little better, but massively insanely better. I'm actually a rather liberal progressive feminism is conservative and regressive.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:55 PM
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The tradition of English law is based on only criminalising men. Women were hidden from the law ("femme couvert"). Of course feminists say this is proof that women were oppressed.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:52 PM
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"Why don't White people steal like those blacks do?"
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:51 PM
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Americans don't need no stinking rights! They can beg for stuff!
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:49 PM
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Ah the US response. People shouldn't have rights. Only corporations have rights.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:48 PM
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Even if the father is informed I bet she ends up with the vast majority of the "shared" time off, and most likely it is her decision as to exactly when and how much time he takes off.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:48 PM
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This map makes it look a lot more equal than it is because it fails to account for the social practise of making the man give his time off to the woman. So on paper a country can have the same time off and in reality it becomes all the mothers time off and none for the dad.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:46 PM
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It's actually a letter from an MRA imagining what a feminist would say if they were sincerely concerned with how Feminism has discriminated against and harmed men AND if they felt that all other feminists feel the same way and they could speak for all those feminists. The point being that any feminist who felt this way as an individual would also know that the rest of the movement disagreed and so they would not be able to say what is said in the apology. Instead of all those "We" it would have …
/r/MensRights26/06/13 05:42 PM
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Sounds pretty much like feminist "equality" to me.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:25 AM
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Feminism is a hate movement, you seem to agree, and approve of that. They want women to have equal power Obviously not or they would be demanding women be 50% of those in prison or homeless.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:00 AM
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Sexual harassment law is pretty much one big huge, "not in front of the ladies" deal. Anti-porn campaigning and laws. "Objectifying" women is all about how you have to treat the little lady right.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 06:19 PM
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It's you feminists who constantly dismiss and abuse male victims of violence, especially if there is any sexual element. It would be like saying to a black person during the civil rights movement That's what you do. In this context men are the "black" sex. Saying that to someone is kind of insulting. Yes. Yes you are.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:59 PM
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Sounds like a meme.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:56 PM
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Seems more like you'd want to cache such an opinion in terms of rights for non-married people.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:55 PM
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NOW had an amicus curiae in favour of the men challenging the draft in Rosther vs Goldberg http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0453_0057_ZO.html#453_US_57n11
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:48 PM
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Men's rights are a genuinely radical notion in our society. People intuitively understand that what they are being faced with is something that could undermine their whole sense of what society is and many don't like it. The hating women thing is just an arbitrary attack based on feminist hate speech. Feminists also call MRAs rapists and pedophiles.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 02:38 AM
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it does not, at any point, specify who is doing the penetrating It does. It's defining a crime. It's defining what the criminal does to commit the crime. They penetrate.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 08:51 PM
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The funny thing is if I had asked them for an example of discrimination against men they could have easily done it.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 08:16 PM
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http://www.hrcr.org/safrica/equality/canada_law.html
/r/MensRights21/06/13 08:15 PM
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For what part?
/r/MensRights21/06/13 07:25 PM
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That's false.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 07:05 PM
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I got banned from there before I even posted. I asked on their meta board whether it was OK to challenge feminism there and they banned me from both boards. Instantly.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 05:06 PM
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But most men who are raped aren't penetrated of course.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 05:05 PM
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I think the 14th amendment already does as good a job as you're likely to get. Countries with feminist inspired "equality" clauses like Canada and Sweden invariably have text that says "as an exception it's OK to discriminate against men" written in to them.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:51 PM
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Look I'm as anti-feminist as they come but it's ridiculous to say they never do anything good. In fact back in the day NOW supported a law suit to make the draft include women. I don't think Carter did. And I think feminists had a hand in getting baby changing units into men's bathrooms too. But the ERA thing is not something I would include in such a list of "good girl feminist" stuff. Back in the day the Mens movement supported ERA, just as it does today, but Congress refused to hear any repre…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:47 PM
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It's a cult-like behaviour. Reminds me of a conversation a friend had with a Moonie Moonie: So we agree Friend: No we don't. Moonie: yeah but basically we agree Friend: No, we really don't agree Moonie: yeah but....
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:35 PM
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a man would have actually been subjected to the draft No, if he was that old he wouldn't.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:33 PM
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Has ANY MAN HERE not been violently attacked? I figure the value for men must be about 100%, but maybe there's some men who have NEVER been hit or kicked or had something thrown at them? Anyone?
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:32 PM
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Of course they will bitch about OTHER people doing it, but that doesn't mean it's a real issue to them. it just means they bitch about everything.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:30 PM
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Bitching about it and genuinely thinking its wrong are two different things.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:30 PM
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The idea that feminists view all rape prevention advice directed at women as victim blaming is a misunderstanding on the part of mra's. I agree with that as an anti-feminist. MRAs are far too nice to feminists. They trust them to be reasonable and sincere. Just because feminists complain about X doesn't mean they actually have an issue with X. Feminists are often completely insincere about their complaints. Just because they bitch and moan about "victim blaming" when other people do it doesn't m…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:29 PM
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If all of society is telling you "you go girl" for your verbal abuse problem, why would you change? Why would you ever even see it as a negative thing?
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:24 PM
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Solid evidence that misogyny is a correct attitude LOL, that doesn't even make sense. Even if every woman was verbally abusive it wouldn't.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:23 PM
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Well they're not anarchists; they're feminists who took over a sub.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:17 PM
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Well /r/anarchism is basically nothing but a feminist hangout and they're a hate movement... so what do you expect? You can't talk to those people. They'll just ban you and censor you like any hate movement would. You literally cannot talk to them, but don't take my word for it.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:16 PM
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Yeah I found that but it seems very weak tea.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:14 PM
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What has she said about feminism?
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:02 PM
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I haven't down voted this thread btw. But people probably will if they agree with me. The exact same thing would have happened to a man as to this woman. Am I missing something here? It's discrimination because she's an atheist.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:55 AM
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She's like 80. No man that old would be conscripted either. There's just no gender issue here.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:39 AM
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That's not the issue. The issue is that to demonstrate that you are a conscientious objector they make you come up with a religious proof and she's an atheist.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:19 AM
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Well as the evangelicals say, to give someone the good news, you have to give them the bad news first. In other words if they don't feel there's any necessity to change their way of thinking then they won't. And that's what every feminist that has any possibility of getting better will say -- that they desperately don't want to change. They want you to tell them that they are OK as they are. Most of the feminists that turn up here going on about how feminism is for men and all that bs, they are …
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:11 AM
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Ok so you were just bullshitting. See the question you raised is of interest to me so I wondered if you had any actual evidence one way or the other. I agree that intuition might say you get more flies with honey than vinegar or whatever but oddly I don't think it works out that way with feminists. The problem is that feminists are hugely into denial about their own status so buttering them up just enters into their fantasy and gives them no motivation to self-evaluation.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 02:14 AM
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Right. So I asked what those experiences were. You're claiming expertise on the basis of experience. So what is the claim you're making to expertise? Quantitatively and Qualitatively. ETA: how often for example have you compared someone to the KKK?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:57 PM
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Because you're lying about one or the other both.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:52 PM
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Feminism is a hate movement.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:50 PM
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I'm thinking it won't work, but what do I know?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:48 PM
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a patriarchy established centuries ago Who established it? Was it those evil men? This may sound like I am blaming the men Probably because you did ("Yes, it was mainly men who created it") women are angry and frustrated with the gender roles they are forced to take on Like what? What are women forced to do? stop blaming everything on the women When has anyone ever done that? You just said men are to blame for everything ("patriarchy") but I don't recall anyone ever saying women are to blame for…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:45 PM
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discrimination against women is also very real Could you give me an example of it?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:38 PM
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You brought it up.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:26 PM
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Suggest you read the right hand bar.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:57 PM
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But he hasn't shown that anything WAS taken out of context. For fucks sake that bit is rather bloody important don't you know? That whole facts bit?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:51 PM
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Did Swift actually eat babies? Because Solanas actually shot Warhol. Are you seriously going to pretend it was written as satire?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:46 PM
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So at what point did your argument slip from saying that Solanas was irrelevant because she was "insane", to saying that she's relevant but not endorsed by feminists? it's a website that lists writings of feminist authors seemingly without passing judgement Oh wait you say she's being endorsed as a feminist too. Could you recap your point? I've lost track of what it is supposed to be.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:45 PM
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I am an anti-feminist not an MRA. Are you trying to make a point very badly?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:42 PM
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And what's your experience consist of?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 09:01 PM
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I don't think we're getting anywhere. You don't come across as skeptical to me. You come across like a conspiracy denialist. You have an emotional need to deny things. You try to frame your emotions in terms of evidence and skepticism but are unable to rationalise your behaviour.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:23 PM
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Probably want a [NSFW] warning on that link.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 07:00 PM
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So your answer to that is to pretend feminists never say anything bad? To simply assume that anything anyone says is false or baseless?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:59 PM
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Thank you. You've said enough now.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:22 PM
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It is evident that whatever else your motivation is, it is not accuracy or skepticism. So what is your motivation here?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:21 PM
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Their source is the people that are credited with saying those things. That's what the word "quote" means.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:20 PM
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On the Catharine MacKinnon quote Daphne Patai goes on about it at some length in this book, What Price Utopia? http://books.google.com/books?id=Ai66987jzRkC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=cal+thomas+professing+feminism&source=bl&ots=fVyxzTYWmf&sig=9dHh2QOFfha_Qh6wvTmXJN2ZDv8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mzjDUZjLO5KI9ASjzYHYAQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=cal%20thomas%20professing%20feminism&f=false Basically the problem with MacKinnon (as I explained elsewhere in this thread) is that her seamless slurry of words are ver…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:18 PM
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Since none of the brave souls contesting these quotes as "out of context" want to actually provide any context to them -- and I can certainly see why they wouldn't want to -- I thought maybe I would. Here's some context to the Marilyn French quote. Enjoy the hate. http://phonaesthetica.com/2012/07/08/we-love-our-sons/
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:03 PM
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Kind of like saying anything Jesus said was just a line in a book by a fictional character and therefore shouldn't be taken as representative of Christianity. It's not just a line in a book. The sentiment was widely supported by feminists at the time. It's said with approval in the book.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:53 PM
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The comments were already sourced. You were attempting to falsify them.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:51 PM
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I'm not making up shit; thanks for admitting that you are.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:50 PM
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not all feminists are the same Did you mean to say "Not all feminists are like that"? Please give me an example of a feminist who isn't like that.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:50 PM
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Heh. That's what I figured.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:09 PM
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It's all right wing isn't it?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:06 PM
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Have you, slapnuts? Read either one? I can't recall if it was Toward a Feminist Theory of the State or Feminism Unmodified I am asking if you're read the sources or if you are "full of shit" as you put it so charmingly. Now I am going to guess the answer is you've read nothing. Am I right?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:05 PM
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I actually came across a page I wrote on all this in the 1990s: http://feministhate.tripod.com/id51.htm
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:02 PM
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Yes. And I've also read where MacKinnon said it originally. Have you, slapnuts? Read either one?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 04:40 PM
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You'd be better off reading some of MacKinnon's stuff directly if you want to see her views on sex. However Professing Feminism is a good book whereas MacKinnon's is oppressively fucked up anti-male hate. MacKinnon is very wordy and is hard to quote in a sound bite so people tend to summarize her comment on rape instead of just quoting two or three paragraphs. But she does have the view that heterosexual sex is rape for the reasons I gave elsewhere (patriarchy means women can never consent to se…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 04:35 PM
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How you define what is and what is not a sexual act? It's defined by law when defining rape. Usually penetration of the mouth vagina or anus by something. I don't accept as not being a sexual act Do you also refuse to accept you're wrong about things sometimes?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 04:29 PM
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