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You need to truly believe that there are a ton of women out there that would date you if you got off your butt and approach approach approach. and then you approach approach approach. Also, If it doesn't work out with a woman I'm very attracted to/interested in...I move on and don't keep her around. I'm not saying I never stay friends with a woman after dating her... but if she is one-itis level (unresolved feelings or attraction IN EITHER DIRECTION)...I move on. It's hard not to have abundance …
/r/seduction26/11/19 04:38 PM
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No, people (men or women) have to prove that they ARE crazy.
/r/seduction12/11/19 03:28 PM
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If you think she is out of your league, then it's true. That's called a self limiting belief.
/r/seduction22/10/19 02:27 PM
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Turbulentpenis 1 hour ago Nah man; she won;t reject Turbulentpenis. It's not like he's pushing his self limiting beliefs on others through reddit comments. :)
/r/seduction31/07/19 03:08 PM
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Absolutely but YOU have to believe it. If you think you are too young old, fat, thin, etc, or women won't like you...then it's true for you. That's called a self limiting belief. ​ -Cuisine Daygamer.net
/r/seduction10/07/19 01:22 AM
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I recommend reading all the sidebar help, since it's covered there. ​ Also "Hi, my name is..." is just a very dull approach, once they've seen a million times. I've written about openers here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:43 PM
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Thanks. Welcome to the club. :)
/r/seduction28/05/19 05:17 AM
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You don't want to become reliant on alcohol in order to talk to women or approach.
/r/seduction23/05/19 12:10 AM
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Right, never open with "I'm sorry" or "excuse me" or "I know this is random but." These all assume you are interrupting them or doing something not socially calibrated, which isn't a great frame. I've written about this here: ​ http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction23/05/19 12:08 AM
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Laughing at a man's jokes, especially when they are not that funny is an IOI (indication of interest). There are other IOIs, and you are looking for clusters of them to show a women is interested, but still. Men are more likely to approach or move on a woman they think is interested.
/r/seduction14/05/19 05:16 PM
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True nearly all of the time. Most of the exceptions learned how to help men from men.
/r/seduction07/05/19 06:54 PM
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Smiling at a guy is NOT an IOI or a signal that you like someone. Everyone smiles. Learn about approach invitations. Try reading Superflirt (and Superdate) by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction07/05/19 06:54 PM
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Text her to get her out.
/r/seduction06/03/19 12:39 PM
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Confidence (and a good sense of humor) makes you more attractive because with women....a lot of what they are attracted to in men...is how the man makes them feel.
/r/seduction05/02/19 10:11 PM
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As long as you are confident, assertive, and clear in your intent, you will do well regardless of labels. If being yourself gets you the women you want ... more power to you, but most men in communities like this have to work on themselves and be their "best selves" to get the kind of women they want. It sounds like you want greater success than you are getting now...without actually working on yourself...something has to change. No game playing needed. "Nice guy" is what women tell men when the…
/r/seduction16/01/19 02:43 PM
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You have self-limiting beliefs that you need to kill. If you think something won't work, it's true. If you think it's annoying, it is. Work on your confidence. The phone number thing YES get her # -- you don;t need to call, but texting should be used for logistics....ask her out in person when you meet her and setup the date then....but sometimes you do need to text if you are running late or something (you can tell her you'll text her if your running a few minutes late or something). You can CA…
/r/seduction16/01/19 12:57 PM
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It's a self-limiting belief. If you think it's difficult, it is. If you think you are too X, Y, or Z, you are.
/r/seduction15/01/19 03:24 PM
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Dude, YOU are the prize!
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:41 PM
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Most online systems have messaging within the system so you can send actual emails. within a few messages you should be able to get them either on the phone or out in person. If they are not responding, then they are not interested, in which case, work on your profile, pictures, and messages to them. BTW, next time you say there is only one way to do something, understand that it is a self limiting belief....you are holding yourself back.
/r/seduction25/12/18 08:33 PM
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They don't suck at texting. Ask them out in person when you meet or see them. Texting is just for logistics later if needed.
/r/seduction25/12/18 07:18 PM
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This doesn't mean they are shy. Work on your game, and make actual connections with women and your responses will improve.
/r/seduction25/12/18 03:17 PM
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Attracted to you. :)
/r/seduction25/12/18 03:16 PM
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You have self-limiting beliefs that tell you that you aren't good (or tall or handsome) enough...or are average, and that you chances are slim. As long as you believe this hogwash, it's true for you. I'm short, chubby, balding, and old, and do well with attractive women because: I am confident and assertive, and spent years working on my game. Don't see other men as competition...they are not the combination that is YOU, and "seeming competitive" can hurt you anyway. Just do your best and work o…
/r/seduction05/12/18 07:53 PM
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Is she like that with you in person?
/r/seduction28/10/18 01:21 AM
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This isn't a conversation problem but a logistics problem. Find a way to get close enough to talk to her even if you are talking to her and other people. Maybe it will get easier to talk to her alone at that point or in the future, since she may be less shy with you at that point.
/r/seduction20/10/18 08:41 PM
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It's classic (but strong) "approach anxiety." Also, thinking about the perfect interaction in your head is slowing you down.
/r/seduction20/10/18 08:34 PM
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It is actually difficult to find a GOOD wingman. If you find one, great, but in the meantime, go out alone and approach like crazy. Mehow used to have something called "Solo Winging" which you may be able to look up...I never actually read it. You can also use hired guns as social proof including bartenders. ​ Also, when you get god, people may ask you to wing.
/r/seduction20/10/18 05:18 PM
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People strive to improve themselves in all aspects of life, their entire lives. Dating is the same. Don't change your core identity of course, but everyone has something they can work on. You want to be your "best self" which is different than saying something is wrong with you as a person. :)
/r/seduction19/10/18 04:59 AM
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You're definitely in a good area. Years ago, a friend of mine who was a coach in Baltimore (moved and retired now) had me help out in bootcamps he was doing and there were a lot of receptive and attractive women in nightgame at the bars around Power Plant. I've also tried daygame in Baltimore around the inner harbor and the multi floor Barnes and Noble and it was good too. You're definitely in a good area. Years ago, a friend of mine who was a coach in Baltimore (moved and retired now) had me he…
/r/seduction19/10/18 04:56 AM
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It's called "Approach anxiety." You are looking for any excuse not to approach.
/r/seduction18/10/18 04:52 AM
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Daygame is my bread and butter. You need to learn to read IOIs better. Get a hold of Superflirt and Superdaate by British author, Tracey Cox. They are out of print, so maybe order them used online. Also, if you need help reading emotional states (i.e. micro-flashes of emotion), try a book called Unmasking the Face by Paul Eckman. -C Daygamer.net
/r/seduction15/10/18 10:21 PM
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Mixed signals ... give examples of these mixed signals. Also, look up the seduction type Hot And Cold Coquette in the Art of Seduction since that's the mixed signals seduction type. In general ... watch for nonverbal and verbal positive signals from shy girls and amplify them ... Basically, any positive signal...even a weak one takes more effort for them ... so when you see them, they are often meaningful. When a shy girl likes me they tell me something like "I like social guys because they draw…
/r/seduction15/10/18 07:14 AM
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Both work. It's just the difference between opening direct and indirect.
/r/seduction13/10/18 06:29 AM
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Eh...some women respond badly to cute. Just depends. They hear both too often and by everyone including family and friends. I prefer saying something about them is sexy....but after the hook point.
/r/seduction13/10/18 06:28 AM
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So, you can do college campuses all day. But, if you practice daygame, you will become more comfortable at it.
/r/seduction08/10/18 09:55 PM
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Keep approaching. It will get easier. What are more familiar settings? I wrote an article about openeing: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/.
/r/seduction08/10/18 03:58 AM
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That deserved an upvote. :)
/r/seduction07/10/18 06:15 AM
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About what? You don't want to be her friend now because she is sleeping with someone instead of you? Or, you want to try and take her from her boyfriend? Don't bother--just go out and find someone new.
/r/seduction07/10/18 01:24 AM
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I would want to know if a woman had an STD prior to getting intimate. You HAVE to tell the person. Wouldn;t you want to know if she has AIDS? Heck, your disclosing may help her disclose. That said, aren't there support groups or websites through which you can meet people of the opposite sex with the same issue?
/r/seduction07/10/18 01:22 AM
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They want you to talk to them. Since you know the obvious answer is to say hi...do that. Next day you are on campus, walk around saying hi to everyone (especially women, but not just women who give you signals). That's a start. On day one, you don;t even need to worry about conversation....this exercise is saying hi. ​ -C daygamer.net
/r/seduction07/10/18 12:35 AM
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If you're game is tight....it doesn't look like you are hitting on women (or approaching). It looks like they know you already and are having fun. This is not even gym specific. Be "the guy" (better than "that guy") whose game is so tight...women love him and it doesn't even look like you are trying. There are "that guys" everywhere....some people want to be them and some don't. :)
/r/seduction06/10/18 08:10 PM
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I'm upvoting this.
/r/seduction06/10/18 08:07 PM
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Approach women at the gym. If you think you are creepy or a creep...you are! that is called a self limiting belief and you need to kill it. And stop caring what people think (in normal situations). Bottom line is make your game super tight (you can do this in a year or two if you work hard) and you will do well in a variety of situations. Off limit's places? If I worked in the same unit with someone at work or one of us supervised the other, It's off. If she is in a different work unit...it's I'…
/r/seduction06/10/18 08:06 PM
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It's called preselection. There is a ton about it on the web. Here's an example from Girls Chase: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-preselection-can-get-you-girls. ​ My answer is that: It's a form of social proof. Also, makes you seem safe to women. Also, women can be jealous or envious of what other women have. You can use women as "pivots" (or paws), meaning, they can help you get other (even hotter) women. When I was single and out with female friends, they would make me look good (somet…
/r/seduction06/10/18 06:19 PM
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I'm ok with this post except 4 which needs work, especially avoid "Ask if you think the woman looks like she'd good in bed etc." Otherwise, good work. Screening is KEY, and I talk about it in this post about serious vs casual: ​ http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction02/10/18 06:00 PM
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I just responded to a very similar posl. Basically, you need to communicate who you are and screen them for compatible goals (serious vs casual). I go much more deeply into it here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ ​ ​
/r/seduction01/10/18 05:03 AM
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There is difference between communicating (and sub-communication) that you are (and screening for) casual or serious. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/.
/r/seduction01/10/18 04:59 AM
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Bring a wing (someone to occupy the other person). I've done really well with that. Technically, the wing can be male or female regardless of the sex of the friend, as long as the wing can occupy the friend but opposite sex of the friend is more traditional.
/r/seduction07/09/18 07:05 PM
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If you are a man...give yourself an objective # (or use hot or not if you have to) and then add or remove 1 point each based on your confidence level (inner game), outer game, approach, and personality with women. Why? not just count the straight #? Because much of women's attraction towards men is how the man makes them feel. So, an 8 who has no confidence or game, may really be a 5, and a 5 who is confident, can make them, laugh, has good body language and kino....might be an 8. For women, jus…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/18 03:53 AM
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If you think you are creepy or cheesy (or too fat, thin, tall, short, etc, you are. It's a self-limiting belief. If you think you can approach women on your campus and be fun and get good reactions, you can. ​ Besides, have a conversation before asking them to get coffee, felafel or whatever with you. It's not, "hi, wanna date?" See if you can find Juggler's (Waye Elise) original ebook....I remember it being good for campus game. Improv classes could help too.
/r/seduction05/09/18 07:45 PM
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Because the "shitty" rule is used incorrectly to support people's self-limiting beliefs (the belief that they can't do something for a probably BS reason). Now, if you have a job that you really need and going out with someone there is a legitimate risk (ie one of you supervises the other), don't do it. For many people, dating at work (or even dating customers isn't a risk). As far as gyms, how do you EAT at a gym? How is asking a girl out SHITTING? The risk here is fighting your self-limiting b…
/r/seduction05/09/18 07:41 PM
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Glad you found the article helpful.
/r/seduction05/09/18 07:30 PM
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I wrote about meeting women at the gym here: ​ http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction03/09/18 09:01 PM
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You don't have to ask for directions. There are so many ways you can open. Try this article of mine: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction03/09/18 08:59 PM
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Sounds like you do not want to do direct openers. I wrote the below article about opening, and while a lot of it is about direct, there are some indirect examples too. BTW, the link to the free PU101 Banter Deck is down, so maybe they went out of business. http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction17/08/18 11:08 PM
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#1 covers that. It includes taking dating advice from women who are not the type of women they would actually date (including the "be yourself" type advice your sister/mom gives you, and advice from not hot friends). The responsibility always falls on the recipient.
/r/seduction17/08/18 03:33 PM
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Because the recipient (1) takes advice from the wrong people and products, (2) don't apply the advice correctly, (3) isn't willing to change, (4) doesn't put the work (time and energy) into improving themselves, (5) doesn't work on both inner and outer game, (6) doesn't approach (and interact with) enough women, (7) doesn't go on enough dates, (8) isn't clear on dating goals, (9) has unrealistic expectations, and/or (10) doesn't take feedback well and incorporate it. -Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction17/08/18 02:35 PM
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PUA techniques are designed for men to use on women...so a lot of them won't work for you (on men). Attraction triggers as an example are completely different for men and women. IOIs can be too. A lot of female game is actually about approach invitations and being approachable. Have you tried the /r/FPUA subreddit? These books work for men and women: Art of seduction by Greene. Running game on a conqueror as an example, could be quite tricky...same for male or female except that female conqueror…
/r/seduction11/08/18 12:39 AM
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No, bars are not dead all nights. Look for happy hour and food special nights. Clubs may have special nights too. You can do daygame too...like places people shop or hangout, even in the evening.
/r/seduction10/08/18 04:15 AM
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I didn't read much of this because it's starts with "IOIs suck and here's a better way"...and then it just lists IOIs, and ones that are well-known at that. If IOIs suck, why is he listing the ones he looks for?
/r/seduction10/08/18 04:13 AM
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Go out and approach like crazy. 2-3 hours for every hour you read, or watch pu videos.
/r/seduction08/08/18 10:51 PM
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Don't blame your friends...you are the only one holding you back or slowing your momentum is you. You're self liming beliefs about being held back or slowing momentum or hurting you. If you think you can do something, for you...it's true! Go out and approach like crazy solo...daygame works well for this. Then schedule dates then go on them...etc. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction17/07/18 03:16 AM
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For Statement of Intent, look up the old Juggler/Wayne Elise Material since it is his. That said, opening direct (like I saw you and had to meet you, You are f-ing adorable, etc) does show direct interest. You don't have to open direct to do it though (indircet playful works too)....you just need to use an SOI (like telling her something about her is sexy (smile, style, accent, eyes, etc) or getting her to visualize doing X (dating, kissing, sex, etc) with you. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction17/07/18 03:12 AM
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Or use the other image ideas I mentioned. One with a pet works too, btw.
/r/seduction07/07/18 03:38 PM
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Close good photos that exemplify good body language (read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox). Have some of them include hobbies, friends groups, or interesting locations. Write your profile in a way that shows confidence, a good sense of humor, your identity (you can have many), and interests. So, if you are very into food or travel, highlight that in the images and text. Oh, for internet dating, it's all "Show me, don't tell me" ....meaning, don't say you are funny, be funny. BTW, if you g…
/r/seduction07/07/18 02:28 PM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. Has pictures too.
/r/seduction07/07/18 03:25 AM
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Work on conversation skills. That can mean taking improv classes, working on stories, working on conversation skills, working on your identity, etc. Also, work on body language and body language reading skills--I like the books Superdate and Superflirt by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction07/07/18 03:16 AM
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You make eye contact with them. If they keep eye contact or look down (or down and back up), that's good. Hard sideways away, isn't.
/r/seduction06/07/18 07:21 AM
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Her friends want her to meet a cool guy and be happy.
/r/seduction06/07/18 12:36 AM
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Read all the sidebar help. Also, there are good responses in this thread. For fun, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhEAFk7CA8. It;s an Old Asian Playboy video called "Amog Battle" and a lot of it has to do with positioning. Work on your confidence, self limiting, beliefs and conversation skills. If you were running tight game on her, the dude wouldn't be able to pull her that easily. If you believe other men are better than you (with women or otherwise)...then they are and the battl…
/r/seduction06/07/18 12:35 AM
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Why would you fail a shit test? Women give you shit tests because they WANT YOU TO PASS THEM. They like you but want to know you are the real thing. So, be non-reactive (or funny or deflective (that a word?) and pass those tests. If you think women will LJBF you, they will. Deal with those self limiting beliefs. Now!
/r/seduction06/07/18 12:28 AM
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She wants you to call her, so why not call her, especially with how far out the date it. Otherwise, she may move on BEFORE the date.
/r/seduction06/07/18 12:26 AM
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To some women, you are a 9, so think like a 9! Keep in mind that attractiveness in men includes confidence, sense of humor, outer game, body language, etc.
/r/seduction06/07/18 12:25 AM
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That's easy. If you don't want to lower your standards, you must up your game. Spend a couple of years working on your game. BTW if you think you are a 6, you are...a lot of how women read attraction has to do with your personality, confidence and approach...work on those. And any self limiting beliefs, if you think you aren't attractive enough or there aren't enough hot girls, or they don't meet your standards, it's true. And approach every attractive girl in your age range and screen them to s…
/r/seduction05/07/18 03:47 PM
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Work on your confidence and conversation skills and self limiting beliefs. If you feel that you will be alone and lonely, you will. If you think you are awkward, you are. In that kind of situation, you can talk to one person and then work your way into the group or approach the group. Day game works well solo. Or befriend all the hired guns at a night game venue so you are a regular and have social proof. -Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction05/07/18 03:40 PM
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Logistics Only Law? There is nothing wrong with talking to her on the phone. Keep her feeling like she did when she last met you.
/r/seduction05/07/18 03:37 PM
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Research your city! We don't know where you live or whats works there for a Monday night. Around here a happy hour, burger night, or wing night could work. Try coffeehouses and cafes too. Also...Monday nights are generally the 2nd slowest nights or the week to go out (Sunday can be worse).
/r/seduction26/06/18 04:58 AM
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Not shit tests. Sounds like he isn't that interested in you; some people aren't direct enough to tell you that.
/r/seduction26/06/18 04:54 AM
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You could even offer her a choice of two different days/times.
/r/seduction03/01/18 09:45 PM
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Do some google research of the 4 questions men ask women as screening for same days. Same days are about screening and moving to the next girl when the current one wont or cant come home with you.
/r/seduction03/01/18 09:44 PM
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You are the man, so you need to lead. You should offer an other time to meet, one that works for you both.
/r/seduction03/01/18 09:18 PM
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With the limited info you've given us, we have no idea what the problem is. That said: Use "plausible deniability" (an excuse for them to come over). Examples include playing the guitar for them, showing them funny home videos you made, cooking for them, etc. They still have to WANT to come over your place and have sex with you, but then it doens't seem like they are coming over just for that.
/r/seduction03/01/18 09:16 PM
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I haven't ran The Star, but I use Ideal Lover to good effect and have seen people do great things with some of the other types (Natural, Rake, Dandy, etc.). I think Mystery uses "The Star."
/r/seduction13/12/17 06:47 PM
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Nice! Keep at it. I wrote about gym game here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction13/12/17 06:45 PM
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I'm here (a DC-based coach). Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSeddit/, but I don't thinks it's very active. -Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction24/11/17 12:08 AM
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Maybe one of them likes you. Assume attraction and tease and banter the one you like. Escalate from there...asking her out (alone) or getting her # to do it. Have you read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox? They could help you read body language signals. -Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction24/11/17 12:06 AM
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Ah, you are female. /r/fpua should be able to help you since it is about women pursuing men. That said, 5's get boyfriends too. You see them all the time in couples. If your standards are at about your level or even slightly higher, you should be ok. Mostly, be in public places or events where there are a lot of people (especially men) and they should approach you. Reading Superflirt and Superdate by T. Cox will help you with the body language skills (including approach-ability).
/r/seduction22/11/17 07:59 PM
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Why didn't you spank her? They may not be shit tests. Just keep going--you are doing fine.
/r/seduction08/10/17 03:08 PM
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If you believe she is out of your'e league...then for you it's true. That's called a self-limiting belief. If you believe you can do it and approach and speak to her confidently....you have a MUCH better chance. Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction07/10/17 08:59 PM
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Start by reading all the sidebar help and posting guidelines. Check out /r/askseddit for beginner questions and topics.
/r/seduction07/10/17 07:03 AM
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Sounds like you'll have a car soon. You know your area better than we do (which is not at all), so you know if bus, uber, taxi, etc is an option.
/r/seduction07/10/17 07:02 AM
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He just isn't into you. move on. Women don't need to put this much work into a guy who is interested. And, he's been clear with you.
/r/seduction30/09/17 11:30 PM
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You can do it. Yes, they'll let you in.For all they know, you're friend are inside. It's ok to go solo regardless.
/r/seduction24/09/17 02:21 PM
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Once you know she is responding and likes you...tell her something about her is sexy. It's called an SOI (Statement of Intent).
/r/seduction24/09/17 01:18 PM
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Your missing a huge point about attraction here, which is why you think it's all about looks. Well, two, really. Men are initially attracted to women based on looked. Without even talking to her, except in rare examples, we know if we are attracted to he..."yes" or "no" immediately. If she's a maybe, why is she is maybe? Much of the attraction women feel for men...is about how the men make them feel. So, most of the men they date would be physically maybes at a distance. They often can't get the…
/r/seduction24/09/17 01:11 PM
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If you are good with women, you have game. If you are not good with women, work on your game. I've seen very attractive men do poorly for lack of game. I've seen less attractive men do well with women..because they had game. Various things combine to help you do well with women: inner game, outer game, physical attractiveness, approach, attraction game, humor, rapport, etc. Bottom line is if what you are doing isn't working for you...figure out what you need to work on.
/r/seduction24/09/17 03:11 AM
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If you think of them as "random," it isn't realistic. If you think of them as attractive women you'd like to get to know better, it's a better frame. Also, if you have self-limiting beliefs like approaching women is creepy or unsafe or not realistic...then that is true for you. Same for thinking people are untrustworthy--True for you.
/r/seduction18/09/17 01:09 AM
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You are the man, so you should lead. That said, if you can't get her out, move on.
/r/seduction17/09/17 05:11 PM
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It's all about how well you personally can manage the situation (including expectations and a breakup). Are you still on good speaking terms with your exes and women you slept with?
/r/seduction17/09/17 01:50 AM
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Sure. Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. Superflirt, Superdate helped with body language.
/r/seduction17/09/17 12:43 AM
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Nope. I approach women I am attracted to...and my friends and I often have different types anyway. Sometimes they are impressed...but it doesn't matter to me.
/r/seduction11/09/17 02:08 AM
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You are more yourself (natural) with them since they aren't your preferred type.
/r/seduction11/09/17 02:06 AM
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Read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety."
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:27 PM
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I'm a relationship guy, so I find a hot girl I like and date her. As far as fulfillment, you are either happy or not, and sleeping with women shouldn't change that.
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:26 PM
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yes. read the sidebar help on shit tests.
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:24 PM
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You definitely shoudl read the sidebar help for shit tests. That said, shit tests are a GOOD thing. It means she is interested enough to test you to see if you are real. She wants to know you can handle her and aren't reactive. So, if she messes with you, don't take it seriously...it may just be a shit test. I tent to throw humor at shit tests, but deflecting, changing the subject, and being non reactive works too.
/r/seduction07/09/17 01:51 AM
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It's really case-by-case. I've dated women who absolutely say what they mean. But learning how to handle shit tests is key...
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:56 AM
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Absolutely cold approach. Also join clubs and go to college events.
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:54 AM
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"How do I open?" is a beginner's topic, so try /r/askseddit. (Check posting guidelines in this board). Also, read all the sidebar help in this sub including "learning pickup" and "approach anxiety."
/r/seduction04/09/17 07:09 PM
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Looks at you and then to the side ...no. Down and back up again is better. Remember that you are never looking for only one signal (IOI) anyway, but a cluster of IOIs. Look for eye contact with other IOIs, hard eye contact, eye contact then looking down then back at you, or looking at you when she thinks you can't see her (like after you've passed). Canning your body is good too women do it in a way that isn't as obvious as men do (for men, it's top to bottom and they skip along points instead o…
/r/seduction04/09/17 07:07 PM
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For what you do, you can talk about your hobbies/passions. Doesn't have to be your profession. Or, you can be really general. You can change subject. You can turn question back on them, etc. In NYC and DC, there are sooooo many "consultants" that it's an easy answer. :) You could also make it about the mission or end product of the company you work for without saying you are the CEO. It all depends on the actual situation. For me, I was saying X writer when I was just an X blogger. "X" is just a…
/r/seduction03/09/17 12:32 AM
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Assuming attraction works. Some women DON'T show IOIs until you give them good reason to...so open the hotties and try. If she asks you about yourself, it is one IOI. One IOI doesn't mean she likes yiou yet....keep running attraction and getting more IOIs. That said, assume attraction and pursue her immediately. Be clear in your intent and escalate quickly.
/r/seduction02/09/17 08:34 PM
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His advice is basically...move on with your life and better yourself, which is great. If someone follows that...they will find someone better. I think people write these kind of articles because so many men ask how to get their ex back.
/r/seduction02/09/17 08:32 PM
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This has only been an issue with my doctor and lawyer clients. I don't have them lead with their profession (although they are not lying about it or otherwise being deceptive), since they want to know the women like them for them and not their profession, income, of what they own. If you don't give them anything to "dig," gold diggers won't latch on to you (stick around).
/r/seduction02/09/17 08:30 PM
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Just go for it. Be confident, clear in your intent, and escalate...which is what I tell all men. And, learn how to deal with shit tests (it's on the side bar). She may say she isn't into tall men or black men or bearded men, or bald men, or (insert here) men...and it may just be a shit test. Also, kill the self limiting beliefs. If you think your race (or height or whatever) is an issue, for you it is. Assume attraction.
/r/seduction26/08/17 10:00 PM
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it's not about being dangerous. I'm not dangerous. Women know they are safe with me...and that HELPS me. They will often come to my place early on. Also, you are friend zoning yourself. I don't even date my friends. It's about being clear in intent and escalating from when you meet them. None of this wait around and don't make a move for a while stuff. So, make friends with women you truly want to be friends with and move on those you are romantically/sexually interested in. There are so many wo…
/r/seduction26/08/17 02:04 PM
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Tell her you need to get up early so need to go...but setup other plans with her on the spot.
/r/seduction23/08/17 01:32 AM
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I've seen women call men they are hot for....cute. The difference is in the mind of who is saying it. So, if it's meant as a compliment or a signal that the woman is interested, take it.
/r/seduction23/08/17 01:31 AM
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be fun, social, and confident is the answer (although a good sense of humor can help), not having money or hold overs from college. Go to events where you will meet people. If you have common interests/hobbies (the arts, music, food, culture, etc), it will help you target the right crowd. Meetups can work. Social circles aren't always the best way to meet hot women since you can only access what is IN the circle (the girls may not be hot) or they may not be single. Go out and do actual cold appr…
/r/seduction20/08/17 02:18 AM
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A lot of this starts with knowing yourself, and if you don't learn yourself. Different people need to work on different things Work on your inner game (including anxiety, self limiting beliefs, low confidence, etc). Work on your health and fitness. Work on outergame (including dress style)/approach Work on your actual game/communication skills including escalation and being clear in your intent Closely tied to the last work is social/emotional intelligence since both require you to be talking to…
/r/seduction19/08/17 05:22 PM
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Hit college campuses and the places near them the college kids hang out.
/r/seduction15/08/17 02:20 AM
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Don't sell yourself short. There are books for specific problems like Superflirt/Superdate, Mode One, etc....that are game changers if you need that specific help. There are probably books like that for inner game too. I started in Game with 5 books as the core of my game and they carried me though years of game.
/r/seduction13/08/17 01:32 PM
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Correct. Those books are KEY because MOST of my clients cannot tell if they are doing well with a woman or not. They think they do badly or well with one and have it backwards. I started in self improvement (getting better with women as a newbie) years ago with only 5 books and it's all I needed. Actually, I only used some parts of them (chosen strategically) and still did well with a lot of practice over years,
/r/seduction13/08/17 01:29 PM
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Search for it. The post has been made 100 times at least. That said, Superflirt and Superdate for Body language. And I love AOS.
/r/seduction13/08/17 04:31 AM
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I have no problem with being called cute. Never did. It's a confidence thing. I disagree about what to call women. Men SHOULD be using SOIs because they work. So, calling a woman "sexy" is golden once you know she is attracted--it shows her what you intent it...and being clear about intent is important. Those other words, including "pretty" anyone can call her, including her mom, but "sexy" is different and you SHOULD be using it. You can still use gorgeous or beautiful earlier on...but once pas…
/r/seduction13/08/17 12:44 AM
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Which direction do their eyes dart to when they make that fast initial eye contact? What do you mean by a slight grimace? what parts of their fact are moving and how? too Ugly? Doubhtful. I know short, heavy, older men who do well (including myself). Look to your body language, micro expressions of emotion, dress style, etc. The huge red flag here is that you do not seem to actually be approaching (and a lot at that). Maybe your nervousness/anxiety/uncomfortableness is showing. Learn to read bod…
/r/seduction12/08/17 09:12 PM
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Sure, a friday or saturday eve...when you will try to pull her, ok. But, there are no hard and fast rules. I've scheduled dates at various times of evening or even during the day on weekends and it was fine. Sometimes late dates means you have less time with you (if she isn't ready to be pulled and it's a weeknight). Sometimes early evening dates go long and have multiple bounces. It's all good.
/r/seduction12/08/17 08:44 PM
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You can absolutely ask out "hired guns." Strong attraction game (teasing, banter, DHVs, and even kino) can work wonders with them depending on the situation. You may need to have her write her # on a napkin or somethins so it isn't obvious she's giving her #. I've actually used identity-based business cards for this but ONLY for hired gun situations where she can't just give her # because boss, employees, customers, etc, are around. Look for positive body language reactions --if you need help wi…
/r/seduction12/08/17 07:51 PM
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7:30 is great. No need to change it. It
/r/seduction12/08/17 07:47 PM
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It's creepy. follow the 3 second rule, and open immediately, which is more congruent with your "I go after what I like" attitude, since staring at indicated approach anxiety or creepiness and not confidence.
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:28 PM
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I had plenty of times when nothing infield was hooking well for a couple of months for my wing and I (maybe 8 or 9 years ago)...and then all of a sudden everything clicked and I had dates daily (if I wanted them) and her was doing well too. It was just about getting out there nearly daily in the field and pushing through it. Plus, we started mixing social (like speeddating and social events) into our cold approach game for variety. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction12/08/17 01:35 PM
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That sounds too close to "just be yourself" which is the opposite of what a pickup related sub board (look at the moderator names) like this one focuses on, and is counter productive for people who really do need help with women. "Be your best self" is more of the party line here.
/r/seduction12/08/17 01:31 PM
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Not at all. I've drank water in bars and opened sets no problem. You are talking about your own friends, so it matters even less. Drink what you want.
/r/seduction11/08/17 11:47 PM
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The smoking or drugs will hurt you (including with women). No need to make a comparison. Drinking beer responsibly is fine.
/r/seduction11/08/17 11:46 PM
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Open her. She will probably turn them off or remove them. I don't usually approach women who are speaking on their cell phone. If they are typing (texting, whatever), I do open them. Oh, nothing to be afraid of. I usually just say hi and include him in a convo a bit before moving on. As long as his girl doesn't seem to be in trouble, you should be fine.
/r/seduction07/08/17 03:19 AM
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Don't apologize. Just don't do it again. And approach outside your circle to build up your social intelligence and give you options.
/r/seduction07/08/17 03:14 AM
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Read Superdate and Superflirt by Tracey Cox, which deliver pictures and instruction on reading the body language of flirting and dating. You Say More Than You Think by J Driver is fun too, as a third reference. Here's the thing, if you were attracted to her when you met her, you could been clear in your intent and escalated right there--you don't need to wait for women to hit on you since men are the ones who generally lead and pursue in the dating world. When you don't make a move quickly, wome…
/r/seduction07/08/17 01:26 AM
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The market for this plummeted years ago, form when men could pay 1000's of $$s for bootcamps. In my area, all the local coaches...went into other lines of work a long time ago, and nearly all are married with kids. There isn't even a PUA conference here anymore. Or a working lair, and there used to be two. You might do better in LA, but the competition is still Very active there. They do seem to partner up though and may still have conferences. A big name there seems to charge very little and ov…
/r/seduction06/08/17 07:28 PM
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It's about understanding that women are attracted to certain behaviors that gay men exhibit. Read the seduction type "Dandy" in Art of Seduction by Robert Greene and maximize that type for you. I have seen men pull like crazy using that type.
/r/seduction06/08/17 07:18 PM
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The obvious answer is diet and start an exercise program. Read and apply all the sidebar help and work on your actual game. Approach women, be clear in your intent, and escalate. BTW, I know men who are heavy and still get hotties. I'm short and a little chubby myself. :)
/r/seduction06/08/17 04:31 AM
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They don't smile nearly always and smiling isn't an IOI.
/r/seduction05/08/17 02:21 PM
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Any of these: She makes eye contact (sometimes they then look down and back up which is good) Looks at you more than once (including when you can't see them form peripheral vision or behind They scan you from top to bottom but sometimes it's obvious (they meant you to see it) and sometimes it's done in intervals, so you don't notice it. They see you and then hair toss, adjust clothing, highlight themselves (point to lips or head or do that thing with hands under head like a platter), or another …
/r/seduction05/08/17 02:20 PM
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It's not about the women, but about your approach and game. Many places I've been, men there insist are very difficult (like Washington, DC), yet other people are very successful in those same cities. If you believe you can succeed, you can. Try playful teasing or banter instead of backhanded compliments/negs. If you are opening direct, it is supposed to fail often, but when it goes well, it really hooks. You can try indirect playful to open but at some point in the interaction, you need to be c…
/r/seduction29/07/17 10:41 PM
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don't lie. read the sidebar help on shit tests. all the sidebar help actually, but especially shit tests.
/r/seduction28/07/17 04:02 AM
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tips are basically the same for everyone: Read all the sidebar help cold approach a LOT be clear in your intent escalate Choose events and venues and areas containing whatever women you prefer (including age range). For you, that could include college campuses.
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:44 AM
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I was using it as a 2nd option with sangria. I'd give them a choice, and most of them (maybe 5 out of 6) chose sangria over tea. Was still a good 2nd option.
/r/seduction23/07/17 05:24 AM
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Themed happy hours like sangria or martinis with discounted specials. Tea houses work if she doesn't drink or if I want to give an alchohol and not alc choice.
/r/seduction23/07/17 04:27 AM
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If she was really interested she either would have lied about having a boyfriend, dodged the question, or minimized the boyfriend (by saying she isn't happy with him, it isn't serious, he isn't local, he isn't meeting her needs, he won't know about it, etc). BTW, she was trying to get you to be clear in your intent (show interest), but it still doesn't mean she intends to cheat on her bf. I say move on...but it is clear that you don't want to let her go. So, if you are going to do it... be clear…
/r/seduction23/07/17 03:09 AM
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You must have missed this: http://www.daygamer.net/2017/07/20/men-who-think-they-arent-good-looking-enough/
/r/seduction21/07/17 08:03 PM
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I went out and approached 5-6 days a week for 2 years. I was pretty good in one year and coaching in 2. I also got some coaching maybe 6 months in. also learned to improve my body language and read IOIs better. I learned and practiced teasing/banter and story telling/writing. Art of Seduction by Greene helped too.
/r/seduction21/07/17 03:17 AM
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I posted this for men who think they aren't good looking enough. http://www.daygamer.net/2017/07/20/men-who-think-they-arent-good-looking-enough/
/r/seduction21/07/17 02:22 AM
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Assume attraction. Seriously. Part of the reason for it is that confidence itself is attractive. The other is that attraction in men and women is NOT apples to apples. A lot of what women find attractive in men is HOW THE MAN MAKES THEM FEEL. So, lead, be confident, be clear in your intent, be social, dress well, have good body language, make them laugh, etc....and you ARE more attractive. Disclaimer: Internet dating is different. It forces women to date like men...meaning that they have to to d…
/r/seduction21/07/17 01:56 AM
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Treat her like any other "hired gun" and run solid attraction game. That includes teasing and banter. If you have a strong identity or are passionate about appropriate topics (I use food, but many people use travel)...talking about those topics work.
/r/seduction20/07/17 03:10 AM
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My go to was a local sangria happy hour. was good and inexpensive, and if things were going well, we could order apps to bounce somewhere else.
/r/seduction20/07/17 02:45 AM
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When you are already getting IOIs, direct will be more successful than when you are not. So, try direct in that situation and indirect playful otherwise(although it's fine to just use one or the other, if it is more congruent with you and your game). I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/.
/r/seduction20/07/17 01:06 AM
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Thanks for posting. Great work. When I was a newbie about 10 years ago, I went out 6 days a week for 2 years and approached like crazy (I was pretty good by a year in and coaching in 2)...and none of the naysayers said "it's because he put so much work into this" because that would mean they too could do it. In my case they couldn't say I was rich or good looking or a natural so they came up with "he's a talker." Kudos to people like yourself who actually put the work into self improvement and a…
/r/seduction19/07/17 08:59 PM
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"> Well, the title is a bit of a misnomer. California is also very good for the field I want to go into, so it wouldn't just be for girls. I would be giving up family, but they're kind of crazy anyway (well my mom is). I'm into white and Asian girls with Asian girls as 2nd, but that's fine by me. I still love Asian girls lol. Also, there's still gonna be white people in California anyway, and what's more, they'll probably be the kind more accepting and attracted to Asians. I realize I'd be compe…
/r/seduction19/07/17 07:55 PM
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Be clear in your intent and escalate ... in person.
/r/seduction19/07/17 07:14 AM
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"Chaser" and "doormat" are not linked concepts. You can pursue women and still have a backbone and lead.
/r/seduction19/07/17 04:33 AM
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It isn't important to drink alcohol while approaching in a bar.
/r/seduction18/07/17 08:20 AM
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It's simple. You act like race doesn't matter. Because if you BELIEVE it matters, it definitively does...for you. That is called a self-limiting belief. It's the same being short or old or whatever other self limiting beliefs hold people back. Confidence is key! Work on social skills (yes they matter) and tight attraction game. Oh, and learn to deal with shit tests because you WILL get tested. Remember that shit tests mean you are doing well with her, so she is testing to make sure you are authe…
/r/seduction18/07/17 07:20 AM
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This is asked A LOT in this sub. Art of Seduction by Robert Greene is my answer.
/r/seduction18/07/17 07:14 AM
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A lot of the attraction women feel for men is about how men "make them feel." Therefor, the idea that men have to be as physically attractive as women... is false. Women respond well to confident men who are clear in their intent. A good sense of humor can help too.
/r/seduction16/07/17 09:39 PM
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Because it is SUPER obvious! You can't respond to anything without self limiting beliefs and putting yourself down. Besides you described your height and weight. Everyone gets IOIs but you can't see them because your confidence is so low. I am shorter than you, more overweight than you, balding and older...and I do well because I spent years working on my game and confidence. However you look, there are men out there who looks worse and do better with women than you.... so stop putting yourself …
/r/seduction16/07/17 12:07 AM
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Women are doing you a favor by letting you know they aren't interested. A "no" like a "yes", does not waste your time like a "maybe". So, if women aren't available or interested, great that they get out of your way.
/r/seduction15/07/17 07:22 PM
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Post a well-thought out Facebook event. in the description, tell people to share the invite. Also, ask your female friends to bring their female friends.
/r/seduction15/07/17 06:30 PM
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Again, attractiveness in men is more than just looks. Work on confidence, approach, outer game, conversation skills and killing self limiting beliefs. Great, so start with initiating and having conversations with 10 women a day for 6 months. No thank you on the pictures. Your inner game and actual attraction game, body language reading (and possible body language), and approach are the issues here, not your looks. BTW, I've taken this thread as far as i can. Good luck and make sure you HAVE FUN.…
/r/seduction15/07/17 06:27 PM
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I wrote about gym game here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction15/07/17 07:25 AM
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You need to get past thinking your are less than average. That self limiting belief is holding you back. Confidence is attractive. Approaching means initiative a conversation.
/r/seduction15/07/17 06:40 AM
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Which topics are you thinking of?
/r/seduction14/07/17 02:07 AM
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Dude, I'm short, chubby, balding, and older. Whats the difference between me as a newbie and you now? I BELIEVED that if I put the work in and cold approached most of the week, that I'd get better with women. It worked. I was good in a year and coaching in 2. It's about BELIEVING you can do it and putting the work in to improve yourself and your confidence level. But your still giving us your self-limiting beliefs. So, for the next several years...you will be working on your confidence? You don'…
/r/seduction13/07/17 11:36 PM
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Indicators of Interest. Google it. You most likely have gotten interest but don't know how to recognize it. The book recommendations I made will help with that. Your self-limiting beliefs hold you back. If you believe women won't like you...it is true for you. You MAKE it true. Work on confidence and inner game. Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction13/07/17 10:28 PM
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Depends completely on two things: where you live. in much of NYC or in Washington, DC proper, not an issue since they have strong train systems. Whether you BELIEVE that it is an issue. Self-limiting beliefs can be very problematic.
/r/seduction13/07/17 06:52 AM
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Thanks for responding. Since everyone gets IOIs, and you say that you don't get interest, you probably don't know how to recognize it. Read Superflirt and Superdate (in that order). Also, approaching is the way to get better at this...so approach 10 women a day 4 or 5 days a week. I did mention some attraction triggers. :)
/r/seduction13/07/17 01:51 AM
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You did respond with a self-limiting belief (and excuse), that you are not attractive. If you believe it is true, then it is for you. Oh, you are JUST stating them? No, you are REINFORCING the things that hold you back. I am short, chubby, balding, and older, and do well with women. You need to understand that women and men are not the same in regards to how they register attraction. For men, she's initially hot or she's not...based on her looks. For women, in person a lot of attraction is HOW Y…
/r/seduction13/07/17 12:52 AM
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That is a self-limiting belief that you need to kill. If you think something is difficult or different for you it is. I agree with the OP. talk to everyone to build social skills and kill Approach anxiety. But ESCALATE and be clear in your intent with the hotties. Please don't respond to this with excuses or self limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction13/07/17 12:07 AM
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It's not "risky" unless their dads are there with shotguns. Don't approach every girl, just the ones that are physically attractive, which should be plenty. Approach often. Read the sidebar help on approach anxiety.
/r/seduction12/07/17 05:02 PM
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Sounds like an error. Try uninstall and reinstall.
/r/seduction12/07/17 04:59 PM
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I wrote this article which talks about communicating intent and screening women for serious vs casual: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction12/07/17 04:44 AM
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You Open within 3 seconds of seeing an attractive woman you want to talk to.
/r/seduction12/07/17 02:14 AM
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Baltimore, Raleigh, Daytona should work. I like NYC and DC but may not be as affordable as you want...depends. College towns. Friends have done really well in the Philippines.
/r/seduction11/07/17 06:58 AM
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How to avoid friendzone Be clear in your intent early on, escalate, be willing to walk away if needed (including abundance mentality), and do not accept the friends frame or be an orbiter. And, of course highlight positive characteristics you have (attraction triggers) that women respond to like leader, protector, strong identity, good sense of humor, etc. to get attraction in the first place.
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:33 AM
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Besides, you should be opening when you are already out, like supermarkets, cafes, restaurants, etc, and not just when planned.
/r/seduction09/07/17 03:41 AM
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It is not by coincidence -- We did it every weekend for 2 years. You can do daygame solo too.
/r/seduction09/07/17 02:26 AM
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I've approached women in diners or cafes at 2 or 3 am.
/r/seduction09/07/17 01:23 AM
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I do Daygame at night: Restaurants, coffee houses, outdoor music performances, street approaches...at night.
/r/seduction09/07/17 12:02 AM
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Read all the side bar help. Read Superflirt and Superdate for IOIs.
/r/seduction08/07/17 11:20 PM
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Learn to read body language better. Try reading Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction08/07/17 07:49 PM
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That's a coffee ... date. :)
/r/seduction08/07/17 07:11 AM
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anti-slut%20defense
/r/seduction08/07/17 07:11 AM
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Read all the sidebar help, including "approach anxiety."
/r/seduction08/07/17 02:30 AM
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Oh, I wouldn't have said "non date" -- I may have said "no pressure" but OP was calibrated to her. She liked him but didn't want to feel pressured. He did fine.
/r/seduction07/07/17 08:25 PM
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Read all the sidebar help on approach anxiety. My motivation to approach is that the woman is hot and I want to talk to her. Also, I wrote about gym game here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction07/07/17 06:22 AM
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This is approach anxiety -- your mind finding excuses not to open or do things that push your limits. Read the sidebar help on approach anxiety ... and the rest too. Open 10 women a day, 4-5 days a week for 6 months and let us know how it goes. a month isn't enough. You can take improv classes. And, you can talk about common topics like food, travel, popular (with women) movies and TV, the arts, hiking (and other adventure sports), fashion, etc. Kill the self limiting beliefs. If you think you a…
/r/seduction06/07/17 06:59 PM
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Other males have beta males around all the time, since it gives them people to lead. The rest of what you said I agree with. I'm upvoting it. :)
/r/seduction06/07/17 06:54 PM
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I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction06/07/17 03:22 AM
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Figure out if you are casual or serious first, and make sure the game you are running (including the way you treat women) is congruent with that choice. None of this changing your goals based on her age since your game is setup one way or the other. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/. You have approach anxiety. approach 20 women by Sunday that seem to be in your age range. Besides older women will shit test you and y…
/r/seduction05/07/17 08:42 PM
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Sounds like approach anxiety aka finding an excuse not to ever open. Open 20 women that look to be in your age range by Sunday and after having talking to them a while and doing well. ask them what college they go to.
/r/seduction05/07/17 08:37 PM
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Not off hand. I looked at one once but never read it since it's much better to just practice improv in the field, or with a friend, or take an improv class. But many people here are "armchair," so I mentioned looking for a book as well . :)
/r/seduction05/07/17 06:51 PM
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Practice approaching and talking to women helps because it: Builds social intelligence/skills Builds confidence Can help you meet your goals with women, and even build a social circle. The way to learn anything is practice. Now, approach 10 women a day, 5 days a week for 6 months and let us know how it goes. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction02/07/17 03:11 AM
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Improv classes and comedy writing books cold approach and talk to MANY women on a regular basis look for topics that you are interested in that women are as well (food, travel, pets, music, tv, movies, adventure (hiking etc), etc). There are many threads about this. Search them.
/r/seduction02/07/17 03:08 AM
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When you are more confident/skilled in your game, "hired guns" won't be a problem. Right now, you have too many self-limiting beliefs. If you believe you can't do something or it will be uncomfortable or you are too X or Y or Z, it is true for you. As far as daygame, approach 10 women a day, 5 days a week for 6 months, and hen let us know how it is going. Push your limits, build your confidence, be clear in your intent, escalate.
/r/seduction02/07/17 12:16 AM
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What WMF said. :)
/r/seduction02/07/17 12:12 AM
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Go out and cold approach 10 women a day, 4-5 days a week for 6 months and let us know how it goes. Day, night, and/or club game. You don't need a friend circle for daygame. You do NEED to go out to meet people....so do that. Kill the self limiting beliefs. You CAN do this. You ARE enough. You CAN succeed. But, no most importantly, don't respond to this message with self limiting beliefs and excuses. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction29/06/17 01:43 AM
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OKCupid can answer this: https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 What I have seen is that men who are confident and not carrying self-limiting beliefs, do well, regardless of race. But ANYTHING you think is a problem for you IS...regardless of whether it is age, accent, height, weight, race, baldness, or whatever.
/r/seduction28/06/17 05:22 AM
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A hat could help. Try Banana Boat Dry Balance (SPF 30)
/r/seduction28/06/17 12:37 AM
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Art of Seduction by Robert Greene.
/r/seduction27/06/17 01:13 AM
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Before or after you open?
/r/seduction26/06/17 05:50 AM
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LOL. Funny that your takeaway was that I was dope with the ladies as a newbie...which is not true. Really, what I was saying was that it's odd to have "FU" response to every opening. It does happen more in dance club (not every opening) than other venues, which turned out to be what OP's situation was. :)
/r/seduction25/06/17 08:20 PM
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Ah, clubs. Makes sense taht it may happen there occasionally, but not THAT often, so it's possibly your approach, outer, game, energy level, etc.
/r/seduction25/06/17 05:35 AM
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It's called approach anxiety and it unfortunately is absurdly common. Read about it on the side bar help.
/r/seduction25/06/17 12:02 AM
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How do I emphasize my unreliability? No. Read the link from my previous reply.
/r/seduction24/06/17 10:32 PM
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No, women in that age range are not ALL looking for a relationship. You aren't communicating/sub-communicating it the right way, and you aren't screening them women correctly. You are also framing your life experiences the wrong way if things go sour at that point. No, you don't have to lie. Do not pretend you are serious when you are really casual. I've actually been blown out by a number of women who knew I was serious, but they wanted casual, and that is fine. I'm clear that I'm serious ... t…
/r/seduction24/06/17 10:31 PM
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Your opener is seriously weak and can be a turnoff. Also look to your body language, approach, energy level, etc. Is this day, night, club, or social game. If it's happening in day or social game, something is even more seriously wrong.
/r/seduction24/06/17 07:43 PM
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Or me, even when I was a newbie.
/r/seduction24/06/17 07:42 PM
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As always, direct openers such as that one work better when you are already getting IOIs (to minimize blow outs of women you might have gotten with a different opener), but they can be used in day or night game. You can use indirect playful or indirect situational when not already getting IOIs. You don't need to wait for smiling or specific body language to open. Most people prefer daygame because there are so many lone wolves, so open them too. Also, you can open mixed sets as well (in day or n…
/r/seduction24/06/17 07:15 PM
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This is not a sub about detecting deception but there are some good books on it like "Unmasking the face" , detecting deception, and "You can't lie to me". As far as seduction, read Superflirt and Superdate and approach 10 women a day for a year. That's all you need, and you can even skip the books unless you really want the leg up. But, just so that this sub is clear (because enjoy clarity) ...people here will tell you to go in field and talk to women...because that is the way to learn and impr…
/r/seduction24/06/17 06:38 AM
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YES! Learn the seduction types and victim types. And learn how to maximize a seduction type....because it can be quite powerful. You'll also learn to recognize which types strong seducers are using (even if they aren't in game). And you can learn your own victim type to end patterns that don't work for you.
/r/seduction24/06/17 06:31 AM
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Women are approached very often. Yes, it's easier to notice (and more frequent) it if it's in a bar or club...but I have seen a LOT of metro (train), bus, festival, social event, coffee shop, and supermarket approaches. Women I've dated have been approached in daygame often. It happens, but do you look for it and notice it when it happens? Good approaches often don;t even look like approaches, but like people who know each other already. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction24/06/17 03:33 AM
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No, this is the "be your best self" scene. You can still be natural and improve yourself. It's different from being "a natural" which means something else (as does being "the natural" in Art of Seduction). I'm just saying don't treat this as hard science and overthink things. And, have fun.
/r/seduction24/06/17 01:06 AM
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I rarely ever see women who are "walking too fast." Maybe it's a response to your checking them out or approach? Don't be afraid to approach walking women. Same direction, and you can open over you shoulder after passing them. Walking towards them, if your approach is good, they will often stop to talk to you. As far as stationary daygame sets, try malls, foodcourts, cafes/restaurants (including outdoor seating), festivals, bookstores, parks, etc. How do you approach night game sets? Tell us tha…
/r/seduction23/06/17 10:15 PM
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You are over thinking this. Stop treating it like hard science. It needs to feel natural.
/r/seduction23/06/17 10:06 PM
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DHV'ing doens't have to be social proof, and social proof doesn't have to be preselection.
/r/seduction23/06/17 06:37 AM
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No, the preselection is more of something you use at the beginning. I wouldn't try and work jealousy into a relationship. And it has nothing has to do with bigger and better orgasms. And whats with the 2 minute a month formula? You conducting a study on 1000+ women?
/r/seduction23/06/17 06:36 AM
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This depends on where you live, so tell people which city. Or use the internet to search your city for appropriate venues. Otherwise, try college campuses and the places (coffee shops, malls, supermarkets, restaurants, festivals, movie nights in the park, live music) the people from those campuses frequent.
/r/seduction23/06/17 06:00 AM
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Define "progressing slowly." Remember to Demonstrate Higher Value even when in a relationship.
/r/seduction23/06/17 05:28 AM
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You need to be clear in your intent and screen women for appropriate goals on their part. So, if you are "serious" (vs casual) and looking for relationships, you should be communicating/sub-communicating your intent, and screening women are relationship material and focused. I've written about serious vs casual and screening here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ The only negs I use are "tease negs" and light hearted ones at that -- basica…
/r/seduction23/06/17 04:09 AM
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This is a seduction board. Aren't their any subs about making friends? That said, call her a friend. Unlike many men, women will usually respect that. I've also helped women meet men, which is a sure signal I'm not interested.
/r/seduction22/06/17 07:34 PM
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He means as a "backup plan," but you may be one of 12 backup plans. An orbiter is a guy who wants to be more than friends with a woman ... but doesn't make a move and just pretends to only be interested in friendship while he waits for his chance...that may never come.
/r/seduction21/06/17 08:45 PM
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As per the Posting Guidelines, posts about specific women belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. That said, I would drop her if you can't get her out in person.
/r/seduction21/06/17 08:43 PM
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I've written about Gym pickup here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/ That said, "How do I approach?" and "how do I get a number?" are listed in the "posting guidelines" for this sub as topics belonging in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. I recommend reading all the sidebar help. You can also find openers all over the internet. As far as reading IOIs, try Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction21/06/17 04:34 AM
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Approach approach approach women you are attracted to to build your skill set and confidence so it becomes natural. Then, the improved ability w/ women will be there when you need it. Please don't respond with excuses or self-limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:56 PM
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No, them giving push - pull signals has nothing to do with you leading if they are using it as a seduction method. But, I also find that men of seddit often think that some signals are hot or cold....when they aren't. No initiating texts is not a cold signal from a woman. In today's busy world, not being very responsive via text isn't either. You should be doing less text and more in person interactions anyway. Did you read up on the "hot and cold coquette" seduction type from Art of Seduction? …
/r/seduction20/06/17 01:44 AM
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Men generally lead and chase -- women simply don't need to initiate or pursue. That said, if you truly are getting mixed signals, the women could be unintentionally be hot and cold coquettes from The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene (so read that type in the book). Some women just seduce this way.
/r/seduction19/06/17 11:42 PM
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Read all the sidebar help. Also, this is more of a beginner's post, so should probably be in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction19/06/17 11:25 PM
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Read all the sidebar help, especially "shit tests."
/r/seduction19/06/17 03:27 AM
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Because you aren't putting them on a pedestal and are confident.
/r/seduction19/06/17 01:25 AM
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Why are you in a board about improving your success with women...if you think people are either born with it or not ...and that you are not? You believe someone can learn to be a doctor or lawyer ... but not to be better with women. Doesn't make sense.
/r/seduction18/06/17 07:17 AM
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If you believe it is shit, for you it is. That's a self-limiting belief. The evidence is something you build gradually for yourself by working on improving yourself and approaching like crazy. It isn't really something you build form the internet. You could also build evidence in person with other people, by watching them infield. Game worked for me..but I went out 5-6 days a week for 2 years, and a after a year I was good -- I was a coach at 2 years.
/r/seduction18/06/17 01:02 AM
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Read ll the sidebar help on shit tests. Women shit test men, not the other way around. No reason to use it on women...it's a pretty hard "neg" for a woman.
/r/seduction17/06/17 04:33 AM
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Yes. I've been told by behind the scenes people that the footage is often not what it appears.
/r/seduction17/06/17 03:38 AM
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When you are dead. Until then, work on yourself and your social skills.
/r/seduction17/06/17 03:10 AM
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I've had women do it to tell their friends they will catchup to them later ... so they could keep talking to me, which was fine.
/r/seduction16/06/17 08:35 PM
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I talk about serious vs casual screening here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ Also, a hardcore serious woman won't be persuaded to be casual, although a woman on the fence could be lead in that direction if you are clear in your intent.
/r/seduction16/06/17 05:51 AM
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Where are the negative portions of the mixed massages? And don't respond with "she gives one word answers" or "not open your messages for a while" because they falls under typical female behavior, especially early on. Let's just go with "assume attraction" ... move forward (immediately) and see what happens.
/r/seduction16/06/17 05:15 AM
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For daygame...that is odd, assuming this is a large sample size, and not only your experience with a 5 or less women. Work on your body language, approach, and body language reading skills.
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:11 AM
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When I was a newbie, I switched from long approaches in bars where you see her across the room, try to make eye contact across the distance in venue and your belly button approaches hers and it takes a while to get to her....to ones where I just wander around a venue and open over my shoulder as I pass the hotties. I can do the long approaches now of course, but I am used to the short ones and they work.
/r/seduction16/06/17 12:17 AM
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Many women won't know if they are interested UNTIL you approach them because with women A LOT of attraction is how the man makes them feel (while it is more initially visual based as far as men feeling attraction towards women). Because attraction works differently for men and women, and you are male, you want to stop using yourself as an example for how attraction works in women. Now, approach 10 women a day five days a week for the next 6 months and let us know how it goes. Read all the sideba…
/r/seduction15/06/17 10:43 PM
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Yes: Deal with your self limiting beliefs. If you think being Asian is a disadvantage with most women, for you it is true. The same with being short. The Asian and Indian guys I've known who were amazing with women never thought their race was a disadvantage. It just didn't occur to them. For someone else it might matter, but not for them. They were confident and clear in their intent with women -- they lead with women. Put the work in. I'm short, chubby, older, and balding...and do well...but I…
/r/seduction15/06/17 07:38 AM
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No. Game should be be practiced on women you are actually attracted to. Otherwise, the women's reactions are not relevant. Get past your approach anxiety and fear of rejection, and go out and approach 10 women a day, 5 days a week) for the next 6 months and let us know how it goes. Don't forget to be clear in intent and escalate. Please do not respond to this message with self-limiting beliefs or excuses.
/r/seduction15/06/17 05:28 AM
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Where you live may make a difference. Many people don't own cars in NYC and DC because of the train/metro systems, so it isn't an issue in those cities. Oh, you are in Lima, Peru -- no idea what the situation there is as far as needing cars to get around.
/r/seduction14/06/17 08:08 AM
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You need to be clear in intent and screen women for compatible goals from the beginning. If you didn't do that and she is serious and you are casual, she will most likely break up with you. I wrote about serious vs casual screening here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction14/06/17 05:07 AM
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That's someone else's material so I don't know it well....but you definitely need to learn how to start and end stories. He talks about how we feel when we see slapstick or america's home videos. Ridiculousness would work too...but he doens't know that show.
/r/seduction13/06/17 11:20 PM
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Work on your conversation skills and if necessary interests/hobbies (and even improv skills) and this will happen less.
/r/seduction13/06/17 08:18 PM
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He's probably talking about IOIs, and do do send them.
/r/seduction13/06/17 08:16 PM
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OP hasn't even said what the advances look like...
/r/seduction13/06/17 08:16 PM
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Whether you reject her or not...if you don't make a move quickly, she will probably Friend zone you, deciding you are not interested. So, by the time you decide, it will often be too late. Let's clarify: Are you going on dates with them while you decide if they are dating material? Do you kiss them early on? Do they know they are being screened for girlfriend material? How do you screen them? What makes them dating material?
/r/seduction13/06/17 08:13 PM
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If the PUA advice is framed that way, it's misleading...since the topics have to be interesting to the general female public (with some exceptions) Psychology can work. A friend tells funny stories about "mirror neurons." There are also a lot of articles and studies about dating that you can use to spin things however you want. There are entertaining and interesting business stories too...and they can touch all aspects of life. History can too...there is even a Julia Child Exhibit at the Museum …
/r/seduction13/06/17 06:05 PM
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Cold approach like crazy. Be clear in your intent and escalate. Read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox for the body language of flirting. Oh, and read the sidebar help.
/r/seduction13/06/17 05:56 PM
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Anti-flake tactic: Setup the date on the initial meeting and THEN get her # for logistics purposes.
/r/seduction13/06/17 03:37 AM
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This is why there are less posts there....people don't read the guidelines in this sub and post here instead. And then the mods delete the posts here....because they are mis-posted. You'd be surprised how many times I scan my responses to see that the original posts have been deleted.
/r/seduction13/06/17 03:12 AM
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There isn't enough info here to know what you are doing wrong. Other than...game should be in person, not via text. You can use texts to set up dates, sure. Explain the details on this: "Yet, at this point it's fucking embarrassing how many girls have been interested in me only to practically run away from me after getting to know me. " Read all the sidebar help. This (DC) is a great city because there are more women here than men here.
/r/seduction13/06/17 03:09 AM
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Know your goals, screen women for the same goals, and treat them consistent with those goals. If you are casual or COME OFF as casual and she is serious...she could blow you out. I've written about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/03/18/budget-date-planning-101/ And there is a difference between "no" and not yet." Also, posts about specific women belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction13/06/17 03:02 AM
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It means "Point of view" or reality. Maintaining your frame is not letting someone else change your point of view...or reality.
/r/seduction13/06/17 12:34 AM
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It's all about getting women out in person....not text or phone.
/r/seduction12/06/17 11:31 PM
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Both. Set aside time to go out and approach women...and venues where there are a lot of options.....and approach women in places you already happen to be (like the supermarket, cafes, bars, etc). How often you do it depends on how quickly you want to meet your goals. I was out nearly every day talking to women.
/r/seduction12/06/17 06:09 AM
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I'm by no means anti social media, but Social media isn't necessary for you. Socializing in person is fine.
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:36 AM
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Read the sidebar help on "shit tests." And, posts about a specific woman belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction12/06/17 02:37 AM
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You don't see it BECAUSE you are skeptical, hence do not expect to see it. I'm hyper aware of my environment, including all hotties and who they are interacting with. “You see what you expect to see, Severus.” - J.K. Rowling:
/r/seduction12/06/17 01:48 AM
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I've seen it MANY times in DC and NYC, including malls, festivals, coffeehouses, supermarkets, and the metro (train). And, not just my clients and friends. You just have to know what to look for, since when a guy is good at pickup (day or night), the approach often looks like he knew the girl(s) already. I've also seen many guys game hired guns during the day.
/r/seduction12/06/17 01:44 AM
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Read the sidebar help. The beginner's board is /r/askseddit. I recommend Art of Seduction (Robert Greene), and for body language Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. If you need help with being direct and clear in your intent, Mode One by Currie.
/r/seduction11/06/17 09:36 PM
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Stop framing the women as "random" unless you are approaching every 4th woman you see regardless or looks or situation. If you are selecting them based on attractiveness, it isn't random. The word "random" adds unneeded distance between you and them. Ditch the self limiting belief that approaching women has anything to due with fear of rape. Read all the sidebar help. Plus, this topic (how do i approach?, how do i talk to women?) belongs in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction11/06/17 07:07 PM
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Your approach anxiety is stopping you from approaching, and is creating excuses for you. Kill the self limiting beliefs, because if you believe them, they are true for you: If you think online dating is a waste of time for you, it is. Same with: Thinking you are ugly. Thinking women in your city are extremely superficial and stuckup Thinking you don't have opportunities to hit the town (make them!) Thinking approaching women is part of rape culture. Thinking women here do not EVER make eye conta…
/r/seduction11/06/17 06:57 AM
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I'm ok with DCOW's answer...and am also tired of all "don't shit where you eat responses" where they just tell you not to do things...passing self-limiting beliefs along. I do want to make a suggestion. Learn how to read IOIs/body language really well, and you will see beyond simple professional niceness. I recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction11/06/17 03:18 AM
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It also may depend on where youre at...since a 5 may think you're out of her league and not flirt until you actually show interest.
/r/seduction11/06/17 02:02 AM
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I'll answer one of those. Which one of those questions would you like me to answer?
/r/seduction10/06/17 09:54 PM
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Exactly! You will blow out the real relationship girls that way, which is productive. You read the article?
/r/seduction10/06/17 08:20 PM
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It's a shit test. read the sidebar help on shit tests. There are many valid types of responses to this. Don't like about your age. I don't like about it and have been dating women 10+ years younger than me for years (without being tall or athletic). Have some women blown out at my age? Yes, but some women would have blown out if I hadn't had a string frame. Some women even prefer older men, for various reasons, including strong identity, life stability, maturity, experience, and means.
/r/seduction10/06/17 07:40 PM
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Shit test to see if you are judgemental about sex, reactive, casual vs serious, or jealous, etc. You should know whether you are casual or serious and your language, and screening and treatment of women should follow. If you were screening her for one of these already, it may have changed her shit test and approach, because your goals would have been clear. Always be CLEAR in your INTENT early on. Are you serious or casual? This is an either or question. Once you have that straight, make sure th…
/r/seduction10/06/17 07:33 PM
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Read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety" and "How do I approach?" is probably a topic for the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction09/06/17 10:37 PM
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I have some here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/ Did you open with "hi you're cute" 100 times? If not, you don't know if it is cutting it, since direct openers often fail 9 out of 10 times but hook VERY well that last 10%. That's why people use them, that 10% is stronger than a normal positive reaction. That said, you could try a different word than "cute" and still be opening direct.
/r/seduction09/06/17 10:03 PM
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You are already "lets just be friends." Move on. Trying to get out of that category once she is already not attracted to you...is a waste of time. Maybe if you had run solid game when you first met her things would be different...so concentrate on that with future women. Go out and approach like crazy. I see your comment below about trying to understand why you fail so you can fix it...but you aren't giving us that kind of information, probably because you don't know why you fail. Look, it's obv…
/r/seduction09/06/17 06:14 AM
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The men who do well with women in the cities with fewer women than men...have an abundance mentality, so it is true for them. in other words, they don't have self limiting beliefs telling them they cant do well with women because of scarcity. They aren't fooling themselves because it works for them. It is their reality. If you want your reality to be scarcity of women even though you are in a city with an equal ratio, that is your choice.
/r/seduction09/06/17 03:27 AM
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You are located in a city in Canada with an equal female to male ratio, so it isn't an issue for you. But, if you moved to Alaska, you would probably have to up your game. Is that workable? Sure. This sub is about improving your game.
/r/seduction09/06/17 02:00 AM
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Women like confident men who lead and are clear in their intent...and douches are generally those things plus persistent. :) So, you can lead and be confident and clear in your intent, and do well with women without being a douche.
/r/seduction09/06/17 12:25 AM
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Posts about a specific woman belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Generally, that's a no, but I've been surprised before in DC, a city where people really do check their calendars. :)
/r/seduction08/06/17 06:07 PM
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You don't the man show confidence, leads, and approaches. As long as you are approaching, you are choosing the woman (are in control). That is the natural way. Even moderately attractive women don't have to approach men, since they (women) are in demand...and the men will come to them. Read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety."
/r/seduction08/06/17 06:06 PM
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A lot of it is visual. Keep fit, dress well, good hairstyle, etc. You can also read Superflirt and Superdate by Cox for the body language of flirting. Actually, Art of Seduction by Greene could help too.
/r/seduction08/06/17 06:06 AM
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I don't even see it as rejection. If she isn't appropriate for you, stepping out of your way is doing you a favor. A "no" is good because doesn't waste your time like a "Maybe."
/r/seduction08/06/17 02:23 AM
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I have news for you. The game is often initially much HARDER for extreme extroverts (like myself). Yeah, if they can get through all the extra stuff they have to do at the beginning, it gets much easier. An example is Simeon from season 2 of The VH1 show, the Pickup Artist. Initially, he blew out AS he attempted to open, with the women just back turning him. Eventually, he WON the season...but eh put the work in. You don't need to PLAY the extrovert. You CAN be an introvert and work on your soci…
/r/seduction07/06/17 10:42 PM
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Every one of those recommendations works regardless of whether you are an introvert or extrovert, but the case can be made that introverts are better at preparing and using material since introverts are more "think to speak" while extroverts are "speak to think." So, introverts "wing it" less. If you want something introvert specific to read, try Introvert Advantage, although it is not dating specific. If you are an extreme introvert having difficulty managing your energy, work on on how/when to…
/r/seduction07/06/17 10:13 PM
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Art of Seduction. Keep in mind, that you should be in field more than you are studying. Studying is not a substitute for cold approaching and talking to women in person. Remember to lead and be clear in your intent. If you need help being direct with women, read Mode One by Currie. And, Superflirt and Superdate by Tracie Cox are always helpful for body language and flirting.
/r/seduction07/06/17 09:02 PM
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No, you get what you feel you deserve. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2016/04/27/you-get-what-you-feel-you-deserve/. And kill the self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are too short, old, young, tall,....then you ARE. Game is a combination of approach, inner (including confidence, abundance mentality, and leading, to name a few), and outer game (including body language, dress style, fitness). Work on what you need to and improve your game. Sure, being tall can help, but if yo…
/r/seduction07/06/17 02:53 AM
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Hobbies don't attract women, but men who are passionate, leaders, confident, funny, and have strong identities. Work on yourself. That said, good interests/passions are Food (cooking/dining out/happy hours), travel, social events, movies/tv (chick flicks/tv work well with women), fashion, pets, hiking/biking, dancing, music. Preferably, develop hobbies that you are interested in (passionate about), and ones that your identity is based on (food and travel are big ones) are powerful.
/r/seduction06/06/17 05:44 PM
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What are you asking us? I recommend deciding if YOU are serious or casual and then screening women for that goal. It sounds like you are serious and looking for the right serious woman (even if you go on a lot of dates looking for her) which is fine. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ BTW, Posts about a specific woman belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit as per the posting guidelines.
/r/seduction06/06/17 04:37 AM
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Read sidebar help on shit tests. You could deflect, or you could exaggerate, so she know you are joking.
/r/seduction05/06/17 08:18 PM
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If he isn't seeing you in person, he isn't that into you. Same thing with him no longer wanting to sleep with you (assuming he was sleeping with you already). I'm not going to guess as to why on either count. Have you tried making actual plans with him?
/r/seduction05/06/17 06:52 PM
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Posts about a specific woman belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit as per the posting guidelines.
/r/seduction04/06/17 09:06 PM
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It is fine. attraction is not a choice. Go after who you are attracted to.
/r/seduction04/06/17 07:16 AM
3

Try setting up the date on the initial meeting and then getting the # for logistics.
/r/seduction04/06/17 07:15 AM
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Advice about a specific girl belongs in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit, as per the posting guidelines: http://redd.it/10ioux. That said, it sounds like she isn't interested, since she turned you down twice already, so move on.
/r/seduction03/06/17 05:34 AM
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Just get her out and escalate in person. If you have to...you call use text to (or phone) "call back" (remind her of, and get her to visualize) the sexual escalation you have already done in person...but escalating further in person is much better.
/r/seduction03/06/17 05:06 AM
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The man leads and shows intent. Because men chase....women have a natural abundance mentality and do not HAVE to chase men. Even average looking women are chased a LOT. So, yes, focus on self improvement but also focus on your game and cold approach very often.
/r/seduction01/06/17 11:53 PM
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There were times it seemed like we were not improving...but we were still out most of the week gaming (often multiple venue types)...and eventually...we'd start hooking again, often better than before. So, just keep at it....people have dry spells.
/r/seduction01/06/17 06:09 AM
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Initially it's looks and then chemistry and then compatibility. As far as relationships, some guys (and gals) are looking for them and some aren't.
/r/seduction01/06/17 04:20 AM
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I am a coach as well. If you can find a good coach, it can be really helpful. First, approach a lot, see what you can figure out on your own, and then, if you need the help, you can see if there are any really good coaches nearby.
/r/seduction01/06/17 02:14 AM
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Read the side bar help on "shit tests."
/r/seduction31/05/17 10:44 PM
1

More options in your face in HS and College.
/r/seduction31/05/17 09:41 PM
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Right now!!!!!!!!
/r/seduction31/05/17 09:40 PM
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Stop waiting...and contact her and setup a date. Now! Remember to be clear in your intent and escalate. You are not looking for a bowling partner. If you need help being direct, read Mode One by Currie. Posts about a specific woman belong in /r/askseddit, the beginner's board as per the posting guidelines: http://redd.it/10ioux
/r/seduction31/05/17 09:39 PM
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she says Friends. You could meet up with her one more time and explore it...and see what happens. Next time a woman says just friends and you don't see her that way...tell her you don't see her that way.
/r/seduction31/05/17 05:18 AM
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thats a tough one. i don't personally accept friends frames form women i want to be than friends with.
/r/seduction31/05/17 04:27 AM
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Text less and more in person conversations. You will hear that repeatedly from men here that are successful with women. If you can't get the women out...look to why that is and fix it...or move on. If you HAVE to text...it should "call back" to experiences you have had, or further "escalate her" although most men don't seem to do the latter.
/r/seduction31/05/17 01:06 AM
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Just language classes in a for profit language school (as opposed to your ongoing professor at university)? Eh, ask him out if you want to...as long as it won't make your classmates uncomfortable. You could ask him out without the group though.
/r/seduction30/05/17 09:47 PM
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"There's this girl" posts belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Posting guidelines: http://redd.it/10ioux
/r/seduction30/05/17 07:38 AM
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You may want to tell people what city you are in...since they may know where the cougars hang out there. If it was DC, I'd say embassy events are good for women in their 30's/40's. Also, there are speed dating events here that specify 30's/40s. Internet dating could work since you know their age and that they are single. Dogs parks might work...I've never been to one, but it makes sense.
/r/seduction29/05/17 04:25 AM
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Just move on and don't dwell on it. She doesn't need to know why she felt it wasn't a match....and neither do you.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:17 AM
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It means that you know that there are always more women to approach...so if some approaches don't hook...that is fine. If she's investing in you and you in her, that's fine...but don't invest in women who aren't hooked and allowing escalation. Don't be afraid to walk away if you have to.
/r/seduction28/05/17 10:08 PM
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Yes, but it doesn't have to be "hey." That's just what I use. I know a guy who opened with "OMG" and it worked for him. You could just do the opener straight too...without an added word. I do have a problem with "Excuse me" and "I know this is random but... ."
/r/seduction28/05/17 04:52 AM
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because it assumes the frame of you interrupting her, which isn't a good assumption or frame.
/r/seduction27/05/17 10:14 PM
1

Try "hey" instead of "excuse me."
/r/seduction27/05/17 09:52 PM
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Asian Playboy has a good video for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhEAFk7CA8
/r/seduction27/05/17 08:27 PM
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In the same conversation! :)
/r/seduction27/05/17 07:47 PM
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Your comment is FULL of self-limiting beliefs. So, even if those beliefs aren't true for other people. they are for you. If you think game is destined and if you never had it, you never will, it's true for you. Same thing with creepy, if YOU think women will feel you are creepy, it is true. This board is here because believe that they can improve themselves and hopefully are willing to put in the work to try and better themselves and their skill with women.
/r/seduction27/05/17 06:49 PM
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Look up old Wayne Elise (Juggler) stuff. I talk about openers here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/ An example would be my Crayola Kid opener: “Hey, that blue is amazing on you. What shade is it, aqua? C’mon, you can tell me, you were a Crayola kid. Had the 128 box with the sharpener?”
/r/seduction27/05/17 06:44 PM
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What are you doing to work on yourself and your inner game and confidence? You get what you feel you deserve.
/r/seduction27/05/17 05:06 AM
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You are only damned if you don't. You miss all the shots you don't take. Deal with your self limiting belief about being "creepy" because if you believe being direct with women (which is what actually works) is creepy, then it's true for you. Plenty of men are VERY direct from the opener....and they know they will blow out repeatedly (maybe 90%), until it hooks, then it hooks really well, actually. Why? Because men who are direct, are clear in their intent (which works with women), and orbiters …
/r/seduction27/05/17 04:02 AM
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"Where are you from works really well" for those with travel or food-based identities like myself. Seems like an AFC question but it isn't . She says she's from ...wherever...and I have something to talk about.
/r/seduction27/05/17 01:52 AM
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Talk about hobbies, passions, interests of hers, of yours, ones you have in common, etc. Common topics that work: food, travel, pets, adventure sports, chick flicks/tv, etc., especially if it's part of your identity. It could just as easily be music, if that is what you are into. Ask her open ended questions but answer those questions as well and look for commonalities when possible. You are not interviewing her. Tell true stories about yourself that highlight qualities women look for in men (co…
/r/seduction27/05/17 01:51 AM
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Be clear in your intent from the first meeting. Escalate, including physically. Don't accept the friends frame...if they won't be more than friends...move on...sometimes the willingness to walk saves you (because they don't have the option to keep you around as a friend)...happened to me with 2 of my serious GFs. Read Mode One if you need help in being direct. Read the sidebar help too.
/r/seduction26/05/17 10:56 PM
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This board is mostly men, BTW, so it may not be the best place to direct questions at women. Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox can help with the body language clues...but You could also just approach! She could become attracted while talking to you. So, you don't have to wait for signals.
/r/seduction26/05/17 08:25 PM
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Inner game issues. You are relying on your wing to keep you in state, something you need to learn to do yourself. You won't always have a wing around. Daygame is an environment you don't need a wing for.
/r/seduction26/05/17 07:20 PM
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Do your escalation in person. BTW, Posts about a specific girl belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction26/05/17 07:18 PM
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Read the sidebar help on "approach anxiety." No need to rename AA, btw. Read all the sidebar help while you are at it. Also, "How do I approach" is a topic for the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Posting guidelines are here: http://redd.it/10ioux.
/r/seduction26/05/17 06:27 AM
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Oh, women are sexist for responding better to men who lead? :)
/r/seduction24/05/17 09:09 PM
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If they are asking about a (specific) girl, they belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Anyway, the point is to truly do well in seduction, the man should lead. What is your connection to Venusian Arts?
/r/seduction24/05/17 09:08 PM
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If you are the man...it is always in your court, since you need to lead. Posts about a specific girl belong not here, but in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit, as per the posting guidelines: http://redd.it/10ioux
/r/seduction24/05/17 08:08 PM
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You should be clear in your intent from when you meet her. Lead. Escalate. At this point, get her out and kiss her. And, yes, read sidebar until you are actually using it. It is as personalized as you need it to be. Also, as long as you are talking about personalized...this :intermediate board" is not the sub for questions about a specific girl. The beginner's board, /r/askseddit is. The posting guidelines or this intermediate board are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10ioux/xm…
/r/seduction24/05/17 08:06 PM
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It works both ways...some men like to be asked out and some like the thrill of the chase (them chasing you). I say do it, so that if he isn't interested, you can move on. You should read Superflirt and Superdate for the body language of flirting. BTW, you should probably check out the women's forum, /r/fpua...since they approach and ask out men.
/r/seduction24/05/17 05:58 PM
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Be clear in your intent (so they know your interest in them is sexual and not as a new client). Lead. Escalate. kiss them. I know that pro photographers PULL a lot! A friend emulated it as a body painter. You should read Mode One...to learn be more direct with women.
/r/seduction24/05/17 05:50 PM
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Hopefully men aren't still doing the full "buy her dinner" (or worse yet dinner and a movie) experience on first dates. :)
/r/seduction24/05/17 05:46 PM
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You need to be clear in your intent and escalate sooner. 3rd date is too late. There are some women who need to be escalate more slowly...but if they really like you... they will let you know "not yet" and that they are still interested...but it isn't that common. More common are women that that will drop you (as a potential romantic interest) if you haven't kissed them relatively quickly, because they assume that you aren't interested...so you get friend zoned.
/r/seduction24/05/17 05:09 AM
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Oh, you are an adult. I thought this was a HS post until I hit the part about bars and alcohol. Anyway, Posts about a specific girl belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. The posting guidelines are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10ioux/xmodx_updated_seddit_rules_posting_guidelines/ BTW, you could have kissed her. You aren't being clear in your intent...you say you are doing what a friend would do but want more than that. You need to be clear in your intent. Get her out …
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:59 PM
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Just approach her within 3 seconds of seeing her the first time and be clear in your intent during the interaction and escalate.
/r/seduction23/05/17 03:26 AM
1

Call a suicide hot-line or hire a therapist. Reddit is not the place to get that kind of help.
/r/seduction20/05/17 09:08 PM
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Try and go when it's slower if you are talking about a cashier and there could be a line. Doesn't matter as much for table servuce waitresses since they come to you. Tease, banter, DHV, and ask her to write her # on the receipt or napkin. The ONLY time I hand a girl a business card is if she is a hired gun and her boss, coworkers, customers would see her give a # ...BUT I have a well designed card that DHV's me (highlights my identity) and leads to a website which further DHV's me. Generally, no…
/r/seduction20/05/17 08:37 PM
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There aren't a lot of women in this board, btw. It's mostly men. Have you tried /r/fpua?
/r/seduction20/05/17 08:29 PM
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The best way is for him to see how much you have improved and see you in the field. Then he can decide for himself if he wants that kind of success.
/r/seduction20/05/17 02:16 AM
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His concepts are ok, but there are differences between attraction in men and women, and he doesn't account for them. If forced to choose based on pictures (or even the internet), it may even out since men and women would both have to act like men,...and be more visual about attraction. But, in the real world people interact and women are also about how the man makes her feel instead of just being about looks. Inner/outer game, approach, confidence, humor, dress style, etc...can all help men with…
/r/seduction19/05/17 11:00 PM
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Hey Ruckus. Questions about a particular girl belong in the beginner's board, askseddit. The OP's post seemed more general.
/r/seduction19/05/17 09:08 PM
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Read the sidebar help on "shit tests." They shit test you when you are doing well.
/r/seduction19/05/17 08:32 PM
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"Do or do not, there is no try." -Yoda. In other words, there is no "testing the water." Approach her, talk to her, and ask her out...or don't. BTW, posts about a specific girl belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. It's in the posting guidelines at the top.
/r/seduction19/05/17 03:32 AM
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It's an issue, but his poor inner game seems like a bigger issue. I've known guys bigger than him who were confident and did well.
/r/seduction18/05/17 07:49 PM
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What are do doing to work on your confidence and inner game and to kill self limiting believes (other than working out and losing weight)? Bow many of those women who give you looks have you approached within 3 second? How many women do you approach a day who haven't given you looks? Work on your game and approach a lot, and stop waiting for women to glance at you. And, yeah, work on your weight since it will help with confidence too. These were all rhetorical questions, need reply needed.
/r/seduction18/05/17 07:11 PM
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Try searching the board before posting since this is asked one million and 2 times. and read the sidebar help. Art of seduction by robert green. Superflirt and Superdate by Cox for body language based flirting.
/r/seduction18/05/17 06:26 PM
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If your friend doesn't care, and you don't care, and she doesn't care, what does it matter if Reddit cares?
/r/seduction18/05/17 04:55 AM
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Nope. Be clear in your intent. Otherwise, is isn't assumed to be a date. If you need a good about being more direct, try Mode One by Currie.
/r/seduction18/05/17 12:21 AM
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You should research options for venues close (bus, walk, or bike, uber, taxi) to where you live. We don't know where you live. Try google.
/r/seduction17/05/17 07:24 AM
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Maybe you can get the MODs to change the rules and the Posting guidelines?
/r/seduction17/05/17 07:20 AM
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Read about shit tests in the sidebar, and all the other sidebar help while you are at it. Also, Questions about a specific woman belong in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction17/05/17 06:16 AM
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How did those tinder dates go where they said that?
/r/seduction17/05/17 04:46 AM
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Get your stuff together, be clear in your intent, and escalate.
/r/seduction17/05/17 02:31 AM
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Going out 6 days a week, I was pretty good in a year...and coach level around 2 or 2 1/2 years.
/r/seduction17/05/17 02:28 AM
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The rumors about her are obviously not true. That said, be clear in your intent. If she's not down, move on. If you don't know what we mean about being direct and clear in intent, read Mode One by Currie.
/r/seduction17/05/17 02:02 AM
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You are fine with those three and Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox, but make sure you are in field approaching 3 hours for every hour you read or watch videos.
/r/seduction16/05/17 09:23 PM
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Googling now: ah, 210 pounds. Sounds like you are about 40 pounds overweight, which is doable at your height (but not the same as being fit). I'm probably 25-30 lbs overweight and short, and do well, but Ive puts years and a lot of work into my game. I know a 6'2 guy who is probably 75 pounds overweight, and does well, but he like me, put years of work into his game. Weight definitely matters, but other things like inner and outer game (incl dress style), approach, confidence, body language, hum…
/r/seduction16/05/17 08:57 PM
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You are WITH her...but you should still be Social/friendly to her Friends.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:48 PM
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Read the sidebar help including "endless conversations." Also, "How do I talk to a woman?" is more of a topic for the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:45 PM
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Understand that unlike men, women respond to a lot more than initial physical looks, but to how you MAKE THEM FEEL. Approach, inner game, outer game, confidence, conversation skills, social-ness, lifestyle, sense of humor, body language, game, etc...all contribute. So, you should NOT be comparing your looks to women's looks...it's apples to oranges. This how I am successful even though I'm older, chubby, balding, and short...I worked on my personality, lifestyle, game, body language, etc...until…
/r/seduction16/05/17 05:54 PM
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Show her instead of telling her. Or completely move on.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:51 AM
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Qyestions about a specific woman belong is /r/askseddit, the beginner's board. Try asking her out one more time and maybe give two options...like asking her which works better for her, thurs or friday evening. If she dodges again, move on.
/r/seduction16/05/17 12:59 AM
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People are entitled to their own beliefs and values.
/r/seduction16/05/17 12:55 AM
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Gaming you, how and to what end? You mean she only wants you for sex, but you want a relationship? As far as knowing if she isn't interested: When you try to escalate her, she stops you. This can be when you are clear in your intent on the initial meeting, when you ask for her #, ask her out, or physically escalate her (including touch, kissing, sex, etc.). My guess is you are not being clear in your intent and escalating her quickly enough. That said, look "interested" instead of "not intereste…
/r/seduction14/05/17 08:06 PM
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Google is your friend. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=superflirt
/r/seduction14/05/17 07:58 PM
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You can read a book on it here: https://www.amazon.com/Introvert-Advantage-People-Thrive-Extrovert/dp/0761123695. For one thing, Introvert's "think to talk" which helps with preparing things to say and use them, which can be very helpful, such as with DHV stories. Extroverts tend to "talk to think" which can be tricky unless they can learn to manage their energy, body language, and filters to say the right things calibrated to the right pace/people/situation. I find that high extroverts tend to …
/r/seduction14/05/17 07:56 PM
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Situations, environments, reactions, and people are different. You may need to modify your approach, energy level, etc, depending. I am definitely a strong extrovert and it helps me, but introverts have advantages too. That said, you can't get everybody, but a lot of women respond well to social men, intense men, etc.
/r/seduction14/05/17 06:52 PM
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Those?
/r/seduction14/05/17 06:48 PM
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Assume attraction and understand that with women, a lot of attraction is how you make them feel (including your inner and outer game, approach, attraction game, etc).
/r/seduction14/05/17 07:09 AM
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Superflirt and Superdate will help with reading and sending signals.
/r/seduction14/05/17 06:53 AM
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That is your approach anxiety talking. :) Because that is what you feel you deserve...only moderately attractive. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2016/04/27/you-get-what-you-feel-you-deserve/. That and/or laziness. :) Assume attraction.
/r/seduction14/05/17 01:42 AM
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Nope. All that works for me. :) It's all about calibration.
/r/seduction13/05/17 10:28 PM
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There are no "leagues." If you believe she is out of your league, for you it is true, a self limiting belief. Women are deemed attractive primarily based on looks but a large part of a man's attraction is based on how he makes her feel...which has many components including inner game, outer game, approach, game, body language, etc. The more women you approach and the more you improve your game, the better you will do with women. You do NOT have to be as physically attractive as the women you dat…
/r/seduction13/05/17 09:22 PM
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Because women don't need the help from men. If anything, it would be counetr productive since men generally won't approach groups that contain men. But with men, women fuction as preselection, which helps with other women because (1) he is seen as safer and (2) women want what other women have. Women can wing women though.
/r/seduction13/05/17 06:59 PM
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agreed
/r/seduction13/05/17 05:36 PM
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No, since women won't generally contact you first. The man leads and pursues. The only time I use cards is with hired guns when their boss or customers are around...so it's the only thing I can do, and even then...my card is identity based and leads to a website that DHVs me. Take some risks and actually ask women out!
/r/seduction13/05/17 05:35 PM
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Since you answered "no," only approach women you are attracted to. Approach 10 women a day for a few months before asking me any more questions, and then let me know how it went. :)
/r/seduction13/05/17 05:33 PM
2

which direction did she look after seeing you?
/r/seduction13/05/17 06:24 AM
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Why? Is your AA is so bad that you need to "work your way up" to women you are attracted to?
/r/seduction13/05/17 04:12 AM
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You keep throwing self limiting beliefes out here. If you believe you can't improve or something won't work, it's true for you. Also, anytime you "hear"...other people trying to install their self limiting beliefs in you or others (like you are right now), cut those people off! Search for the positive people giving constructive advice. And when they tell you to try something as easy and fast as a few affirmations in the morning, try not to look to other self-limited people as an excuse not to tr…
/r/seduction13/05/17 12:37 AM
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Being friendly isn't what makes you a nice guy. I'm friendly and don't have an LJBF problem. Be clear in your intent, lead, have a backbone, and escalate quickly from the beginning. Also, don't accept the friends frame if that isn't what you actually want (don't be an "orbiter" who just sticks around as friend waiting for a chance)...and walk if you have to. You have to be willing to walk away (if needed). If you need to read a book on being more direct, try Mode One by Currie. You don't actuall…
/r/seduction12/05/17 09:40 PM
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That's the wrong question. There are a ton of answers in either direction for this. "You find what you are looking for"....not necessarily what you need or the truth. If you are looking for negative answers, you'll find them. If you insist on overthinking things instead of actually starting conversations, order Superflirt and Superdate by Tracy Cox on the body language of flirting/dating. They're useful, but start 100 conversations with women before opening the shipped package containing them. :…
/r/seduction12/05/17 08:14 PM
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It means start a conversation with them NOW instead of letting the moment pass and posting about it. Don't overthink it. Another one to look for is eye contact, they look down, and then back at you. BUT, you DON'T need to wait for signals to OPEN. If you're into her, start the convo within a few seconds.
/r/seduction12/05/17 08:11 PM
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Yes. Every morning in front of a mirror, repeat 10 times slowly, "I am smooth, I am Powerful, I am a seducer." Yeah, I'm channeling my good friend, Master Hypnotist and inner game specialist, Discovering Knowledge...which he would find amusing." Discovering Knowledge (on my website): http://www.daygamer.net/2010/05/07/inner-game-article-by-master-hypnotist-discovering-knowledge/
/r/seduction12/05/17 08:08 PM
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"how do I approach" and "this girl" are both topics for the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Posting Guidelines for the board you are currently in (intermediate) are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10ioux/xmodx_updated_seddit_rules_posting_guidelines/ There is also a ton of sidebar help in this board, including "approach anxiety" and "learning pickup." Plus, there are a lot of threads about "openers."
/r/seduction12/05/17 04:27 AM
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You just keep approaching until your skills improve and it hooks. Don't worry about a # of approaches or dates needed but anyone into math or science or even social science will tell you 3 is a really small sample set. You mean physical attractiveness?Attractiveness in men is more than just looks...it's how you make the woman feel. Rating men on attractiveness and comparing it female attractiveness is a waste of your time. Work on your game and approach a LOT and you'll eventually get attractive…
/r/seduction12/05/17 01:08 AM
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0 for 3 is nothing. try 100 or so you can do a percentage. 1000 would be even better. If you think height is an issue ... for you it is. That's called a self limiting belief.
/r/seduction12/05/17 12:23 AM
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No. Unless you believe that is is...in which case it is true for you. That is called a self limiting belief. Now, don't use the word "creepy" again until you've killed that belief.
/r/seduction11/05/17 06:44 AM
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Work on yourself, and you will have your own true stories. :)
/r/seduction11/05/17 03:32 AM
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To answer the title directly: Be clear in your intent, don't be an orbiter, and don't get oneitis. Once opening the post: Since this questions is about a specific girl, it belongs in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit and not here). That said it turns out that the girl has a BF...so I would say to just move on...since just waiting for her for who knows how long (an orbiter) to find out that you are in the friendzone...doesn't help you. It just makes you get more of a crush on her, not get over i…
/r/seduction11/05/17 03:10 AM
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Daygame. Look it up. :)
/r/seduction11/05/17 02:43 AM
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There is a difference between a "no" and a "not yet." My last 2 serious GF didn't let me kiss them on my first or 2nd attempts. Some women are shy and need more time BUT will let you know that they are interested but slow to escalate.
/r/seduction10/05/17 11:52 PM
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How do I ask a girl out...probably belongs in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. That said. I usually seed (mention) the date location/type earlier in the convo (like talk about sangria) and then say "we should..." and insert whatever the date is (sangria?). She says yeah, and I either schedule it or get her #. I don't ask them to tag along with something I'm already doing. It's a date, not a hangout.
/r/seduction10/05/17 09:17 PM
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I wrote about openers here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/ and mentioned my Crayola Kid opener here: http://www.daygamer.net/2013/01/19/the-green-peace-opener/ “Hey, that blue is amazing on you. What shade is it, aqua? C’mon, you can tell me, you were a Crayola kid. Had the 128 box with the sharpener...”
/r/seduction10/05/17 05:33 AM
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Research on google where you live, and see what the popular places are. Maybe it's restaurants, bars, parks, cafes, grocery stores, malls, etc, Every city and suburb is different. Also, the trip to Chicago may be worth it, since it's has a reputation for being an easier city for pickup, but first do the research. Find where a good number of people hang out. That said, "how do I find a woman?" sounds like a beginner's question belonging in /r/askseddit. This is the intermediate board,
/r/seduction10/05/17 03:45 AM
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I wrote an article about serious vs casual which will help with the "relationshippy vibe": http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ But that doesn't seem to be your problem. You need to be clear in your intent with women and escalate. And if the woman isn't looking for a relationship...move on and find one who is. That article does talk about screening. Not looking for a relationship right now...is code for casual relationship....you didn't escala…
/r/seduction08/05/17 11:31 PM
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It's erotic. go for it.
/r/seduction08/05/17 05:31 AM
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Beautiful women are generally more socially intelligent and practiced in dealing with constant approaches/advances. That said, if you are getting cold shoulders from 7s and 8s...it's because your approaches are designed for 9s and 10s. Are you doing a lot of banter, teasing, and possibly negs? Women not thought of as societal attractive...let's say below average...are often more flirtatious because they have to be if they are shooting for high value men.
/r/seduction07/05/17 11:32 PM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate for body language signals. That said, if you like someone, talk to her...you don't have to wait for signals to approach. Then use the book recommendations to read the situation during the conversation.
/r/seduction07/05/17 03:56 AM
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You ARE afraid to approach women. Otherwise you'd be doing it and learning from your experiences. Stop framing them as "strangers" since they aren't strangers once you approach.
/r/seduction07/05/17 03:49 AM
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Take improv classes.
/r/seduction07/05/17 03:25 AM
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Oh course! you are the man, so you lead the interactions! I don't take my friends on dates with me, so not sure why you'd want to anyway. Find fun stuff to do, be fun and have fun. Teasing and bantering can do wonders.
/r/seduction07/05/17 02:48 AM
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Yes. People can pull solo, in night or day game. In Daygame, many people go out solo anyway. Go out solo 4-5 times a week for the next month and approach 10 women each time and let us know how it goes. And, you can even tell DHV stories that include social groups.
/r/seduction07/05/17 02:08 AM
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Please reread my comment again. It's not a guess. Understand that attractiveness in men is NOT based solely on looks...that women PERCEIVE it based on a number of factors...meaning on how you make them feel. A major one of these is confidence...so being confident makes your perceived attractiveness to be greater. So, several gay men told you that you are not attractive and that they wouldn't sleep with you? The opinions of straight men or even women you aren't interested in regarding your attrac…
/r/seduction07/05/17 01:31 AM
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Women are attracted to many things at once including looks, outer game, INNER GAME/confidence, approach, personality, humor, etc...which culminates in how a woman feels about a man. So, it's more than just looks (while with men, it IS more about how women look). Work on your confidence, body language, and approach...and assume attraction. As an example, I am older, short, chubby, and balding and do well with women, but I've put years into my game. I know a lot of people on seddit don't understan…
/r/seduction06/05/17 10:48 PM
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Ok, just make sure to be approaching, interacting, and going on dates with MANY women so you're social skills improve at a decent pace. And Otherwise, the sample size is way to small to notice patters.
/r/seduction06/05/17 10:38 PM
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It's about the responses I get. When I was going out 5-6 days a week my first 2 years in game...I was constantly improving, and the difference was noticeable. So, when (hot) women responded well (to approach, teasing, banter, etc), I got them out on dates, the dates went well, I physically escalated, wound up with a girlfriend or girlfriends (MLTR) etc, ...things were going in the right direction...for me. If they weren't...I had to calibrate and fix. Read Superflirt and Superdate to read how we…
/r/seduction05/05/17 05:31 PM
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Deal with your self-limiting beliefs. If you feel that being a virgin is an issue and that you should be pitied and are a joke, that's all true for you. I wouldn't volunteer info about virginity. Don't put it on tinder. If you are dating a girl and she asks, you don't need to lie though...but most likely she won't ask you about it unless you act super awkward about physicality.
/r/seduction05/05/17 05:25 PM
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Get her out in person, be clear in your intent, escalate, tease, banter, etc. If she cancels, she's probably lost interest. In the future...it's more about getting them out in person...and less about snapping.
/r/seduction05/05/17 07:04 AM
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If it won't risk your job (assuming that matters to you), I'm fine with you asking her out.
/r/seduction05/05/17 05:41 AM
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Read all the sidebar help and posting guidelines. "How do I act with a girl?"...is a beginner question, so I recommend the beginners board, /r/askseddit. That said....it's all about the situation. I am serious, direct, funny and flirty, depending on the situation. Learning to tease and banter can be helpful too.
/r/seduction03/05/17 06:43 AM
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Meet up with her, be clear in your intent, and escalate...you'll know soon enough.
/r/seduction03/05/17 06:02 AM
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Read all the sidebar help and approach and talk to women all the time. It's nice that you are into fitness and sports, but I would develop other interests as well, so you aren't a one trick pony when it comes to conversation. Yes, conversation is important too.
/r/seduction03/05/17 01:36 AM
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Actually, that one is on you. You find these women uninteresting because you aren't really leading and inspiring the conversation. So you are in boring convos. You are the man, so should be leading the conversation. Also, avoid close ended questions like the one you asked her. You could ask what inspired her to choose her major, or what are her favorite classes and WHY (the why is open ended). You can always continue a conversation by LEADING. Just ask an open ended question. Share about yoursel…
/r/seduction01/05/17 09:31 PM
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I just avoid drunks and the playing field is level. :)
/r/seduction01/05/17 12:32 AM
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You don't really need a wing for daygame, especially in NYC. Just approach, approach approach including central park, cafes, union square an B&N and the Strand, street approaches, etc.
/r/seduction30/04/17 10:32 PM
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Say what city you are in because it changes based on location. If we are being generic, shopping malls, street festivals, craft fairs, fitness classes/gyms, Movie nights in parks, Paint and Sips (painting with BYO wine), etc. Cuisine, Daygamer.net BTW, you don't have to drink alcohol to meet women in bars.
/r/seduction30/04/17 10:29 PM
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You should be initiating with women, since you are the man, and men lead. You need to be clear in your intent and escalate. That means ask her out on a DATE, even though you don't have to say the D word. If you get to know them better as friends, you are their friend. Get to know them better as a date. Read all the sidebar help. Try the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Read Mode One, so you can learn to be more direct. Try Superflirt and Superdate to learn to read women and body langauge better a…
/r/seduction29/04/17 05:36 AM
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Good approaches look really natural, like they knew the girl already, so may not seem like approaches. But, go to a bar on a busy night in a medium to large sized city, and you will see approaches. I have seen plenty of daygame approaches too...but you may not know what to look for. If a man says anything to a woman he doesn't know in public, consider it an approach...regardless of whether it goes anywhere. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction29/04/17 04:51 AM
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If it doesn't risk your job (assuming you need the job), I'm ok with it. I've known many retail coworkers who dated and it was fine.
/r/seduction29/04/17 12:25 AM
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Work on your confidence and never type or say the word "cringey" again. You can work on managing your energy level too.
/r/seduction28/04/17 10:02 PM
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Nope, I was never like that. You're reading a lot into it based on your personal lens, also known as projecting. You see things that way because you were like that once. I never said don't compliment women or treat them special. The word "showering" seemed try hard.
/r/seduction28/04/17 02:00 AM
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It can work fine as long as your game is tight. I've done well with hired guns. They may have to write their number on a receipt or napkin (out of view) so it isn't obvious to coworkers and employees that they are giving their number to a customer.
/r/seduction27/04/17 11:57 PM
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Right, being an orbiter isn't cool, and I agree that it isn't honest (in intent or feelings). It's also a path to oneitis for many guys.
/r/seduction27/04/17 11:31 PM
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I agree with you. I hear that phrase way too often in the sub board. They even use it for gym approaches. I do have a problem with the original post though, which is that he is asking for logistical help but we aren't there to really know his situation. If it won't risk his job, the OP should approach her, talk to her, and ask her out.
/r/seduction27/04/17 09:31 PM
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Eh...another example of people here reversing the male female dynamic and thinking it holds true, when it doesn't. A lot of attraction in men...is visual...how the woman looks. That certainly exists with women...but it's also about how the man makes her feel.
/r/seduction27/04/17 09:19 PM
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I've said nothing to contradict anything you just said. I was talking about "showering them with compliments" which seems like overkill. Nothing wrong with some well placed compliments though.
/r/seduction27/04/17 09:13 PM
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Agreed, but the way you said it is. Don't reverse the male female dynamic and think it works the same way...it doesn't. showering them with compliments
/r/seduction27/04/17 06:11 AM
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Don't put women on a pedestal.
/r/seduction27/04/17 03:53 AM
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Read all the sidebar help and the posting guidelines, and post in the correct sub board. The beginners board is /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction27/04/17 03:51 AM
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Besides the obvious Read the Posting Guidelines, sidebar help, and previous answers to similar topics: (1) A "no" is a good thing. She's doing you a favor by getting out of your way and not wasting your time if she isn't interested or available. A "maybe" is a waste of time though. (2) A strong identity and being clear in intent are very powerful. (3) Screen women for matching intent and goals. (4) It's all about talking to women in person. Spend more time talking to them in person and less time…
/r/seduction26/04/17 05:57 AM
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Hmmm...I've met many, and coached beside or spoken at conferences with some. Anyone who coached me in the day is retired and married with kids including Knack (who can be seen in the behind the scenes footage of the Pickup Artist Season 2 in Arizona (VH1). Brad P and Vince Kelvin both give good presentations. I enjoyed talking to John Keegan but don't know much about his actual coaching. Also, this isn't a hard science (as much as people want it to be). There doesn't have to be one best PUA coac…
/r/seduction26/04/17 01:39 AM
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You don't have to OPEN direct. I wrote about opening direct here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/. Being clear in your intent during the meeting is fine. Keep in mind that you should screen women to find if they have similar goals to your own. Example: If you are looking for a serious relationship and she isn't, or vice versa...it's not a great match. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communi…
/r/seduction25/04/17 03:49 AM
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You said: "I'm not trying to ... discuss whatever we're discussing." and "my life peppered full of 'shifty' fake conversations which litter like infinite stepping stones to the hot girl I will never sleep with." So, when you talk to women you aren't being genuine. You don't actually WANT to talk to them. You aren't enjoying the process. And...people can tell. This could be the "'shifty', 'shadey', not to be trusted" thing...but you also said it's your not so close friends who think so...and dude…
/r/seduction25/04/17 01:57 AM
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Read Mode One by Roger Allen Currie.
/r/seduction25/04/17 01:44 AM
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Read the sidebar help, especially on approach anxiety. "How do i approach a girl?" is a beginners topic, so belongs in /r/askseddit. The board you are currently in is intermediate. In that case: An autoshow has a ton of props (cars, etc) and a common theme people there are interested in (cars), so you could have opened with a related topic (cars). An autoshow may not be the best place to meet women. You can also find tons of openers by googling.
/r/seduction24/04/17 02:45 AM
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Stop reading right now and approach 10 women a day, at least 4 days a week. in 3 months you are allowed to look at Models again. :)
/r/seduction24/04/17 12:05 AM
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A. Now, cold approach 10 women a day, 4 days a week, for a year and let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction24/04/17 12:00 AM
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It's not supposed to lead you anywhere--it's just a component of your game. It also not hurting you. You should be leading, not your aura. :) As long as you show confidence, show intent, and escalate, you should do fine. You also need to practice tons, which means approach many women at least several times a week. And, learn how to handle "shit tests." If you need help with showing intent...read Mode one.
/r/seduction23/04/17 11:58 PM
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The impression that women like you...is awesome and very helpful. We call it preselection. Enjoy it read all the sidebar help. Be clear in your intent. escalate. You haven't given us enough info to know what you need help with.
/r/seduction23/04/17 10:25 PM
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Ditch sunglasses unless you are actually in the sun, or you look like you are hiding something (your eyes).
/r/seduction23/04/17 07:44 PM
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NYC is definitely a good city for game, especially day game. In general people should be ok in medium to large sized US Cities. LA and Chicago have good reputations. We do well in DC (it has a lot of women) but NYC is definitely easier.
/r/seduction23/04/17 07:43 PM
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Where is your "abundance mentality" and "I am the prize" frame?
/r/seduction23/04/17 07:22 PM
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YES. I do well in gyms, stores, and transit. It's called daygame. :) My article on gyms is here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/ There are some indirect playful openers here that you can use: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction23/04/17 05:02 AM
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You haven't had failures--you've had learning experiences. As long as you hold on to the self-limiting beliefs that you can't do better or get hotter women, it is true for you.
/r/seduction22/04/17 05:14 AM
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If it doesn't risk your job, I'm ok with it. Obviously, you shouldn't be supervising each other.
/r/seduction21/04/17 08:42 PM
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Really hard to interpret without context. Could be shit tests, which are covered in the sidebar help, and mean you are doing WELL. Or could be "Let's Just Be Friends" which means you are a "nice guy" and not running attraction or being clear in your intent.
/r/seduction21/04/17 04:32 AM
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People socialize everywhere. And you are translating your feelings about gyms into a self limiting belief, so while other men can meet their girlfriends or wives at the gym, you cannot. Another example is that you shouldn't talk to women while they are at work, but I've dated women who worked in stores in malls. Yet another is that men shouldn't approach on trains, but I've done it just fine. Heck I know a guy who would approach women with their families present and the families would actually h…
/r/seduction20/04/17 07:32 AM
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A gym is a social environment like anyplace else. You don't go to gyms that have a lot of women, classes friendly staff and regulars? Switch gyms or the way you look at them. I wrote about gym game here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction20/04/17 06:49 AM
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I'd advise doing it for a couple of reasons: People here will self-limiting beliefs will tell you not to. They do the same thing with picking up women at gyms. I've done it and it worked for me. Talk to her, and she will take them off or turn off the music to hear you. However, I just scrolled down and realized that the head phones weren't even your issue. She was video chatting.
/r/seduction20/04/17 05:04 AM
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Yeah, then he is surprised when she says maybe.
/r/seduction20/04/17 02:50 AM
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You aren't running attraction or being clear in your intent. Are you teasing, bantering, and telling stories about yourself that highlight your attractive qualities, or just are just relying on your looks and "niceness"? That was a Rhetorical question. Try reading Mode 1, which is about being clear and direct.
/r/seduction19/04/17 07:57 AM
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You actually don't have a problem. You are like men who complain that women don't initiate or approach --- women don't HAVE to initiate. These friends or potential friends do WANT to hangout with you (since they do when you ask)...but someone has to lead...and it's you...because that's what you've been doing. I say keep doing it since hot women generally need you to lead as well, and socially, leading (even leading men) is attractive. Also, if you do approach 20 people a day...things WILL change…
/r/seduction19/04/17 04:26 AM
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Read all the sidebar help including the part on approach anxiety. Also, "How do I approach?" is a topic for the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction19/04/17 01:23 AM
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Listen to me very carefully... You have had flirting signals directed at you and had options, but never knew it. Happens to everyone on some level. Because you have self limiting beliefs (and don't read body language well), you don't see it. If you think you are not attractive and women aren't attracted to you, for you this is true. Because attractiveness in MEN is more than just about looks, you can be attractive and work on your attractiveness. Yes, abundance mentality is a reality, but if you…
/r/seduction18/04/17 09:38 PM
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That is called a self-limiting belief, which means for you, it is true. Learn how to read body language and flirting signals better. I recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:32 PM
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I've done it; you can do it. Just don't let your self-limiting beliefs hold you back. If you think you can't do it, you can't, and if you think you are too short (or tall, or young or old), you are.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:12 AM
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Focus on the AA, not the wingman. The more you cold approach, the faster you will improve. And ditch the self limiting beliefs and excuses.
/r/seduction17/04/17 11:42 PM
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Ah, so you ARE Asian. Who else would call Americans "Western Girls?" I think what you mean is white.
/r/seduction17/04/17 10:41 PM
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It's called a self-limiting belief. If you think it's a problem for you, it is.
/r/seduction17/04/17 10:39 PM
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...tighten up your game. The more you approach and stronger your game gets, the more flakes you get. You'll still get some, but not the 90% some newbies get. Read the sidebar help and use it. #2. Be clear in your intent. That includes knowing and communicating intent/goals. Mode 1 can help with this, but you don't HAVE to OPEn direct to be clear in your intent. You can though. Screen women properly to match your goals. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-ri…
/r/seduction17/04/17 10:05 PM
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It's called "abundance mentality." There are plenty of hot women out there. If you are approaching and scheduling dates with many women, one more or less isn't a big deal. Also, work on your game and you will get less flakes. Now, get out there and approach 10 more today. Also, a "yes" or a "no" are good things, the latter because it doesn't waste your time. If she isn't interested or available, it's great for her to let you know, so you don't waste your time. It's not a personal attack on you. …
/r/seduction17/04/17 08:55 PM
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Talk to her in person.
/r/seduction17/04/17 02:44 AM
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Talk to her. And, Next time you see a girl you don't know....who you like...talk to her too. And the next 10 after that.
/r/seduction17/04/17 02:43 AM
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Ditch the self limiting beliefs. If you think she is out of your league or too good for you, she is. You get what you think you deserve. Read all the sidebar help, twice. Also, always approach immediately....none of this "I've passed her 5 times but never talked to her..."
/r/seduction16/04/17 10:33 PM
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But you are not the average teenager and you want to be more successful...so you will text less and get girls out in person more (and sooner), and be clear in your intent. You will also never again say that "this is what (average people in) society do, so I will do it"...especially texting.
/r/seduction15/04/17 10:54 PM
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It's simple, you've ruled out other options, so what you have left is...make it work! Your apt is fine. You're a student! If you have the self-limiting belief that something is a problem, it is!
/r/seduction13/04/17 09:40 PM
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I stopped reading at "So I've talked to her around 4 times... " Next time,be clear in your intent and either get the woman's # or set up a date THE first time you meet her. If you don't know how to tell when women are interested in you, read the body language books, superflirt and superdate, and if you need help being direct and clear in intent (which you do), Read Mode One by Roger Allen Curry. And, before you read any of that, read the sidebar help twice. I'm not kidding. Ok, I'll go ahead and…
/r/seduction13/04/17 05:14 AM
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It's weak. Also, health is an attraction trigger...so not sure coughing is the way to go. If you are interested in a woman, approach her! You don't need pretense, or to cough first and look for an IOI. And, show intent.
/r/seduction13/04/17 01:00 AM
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SOI's either include the word "sexy" (not "attractive) or get her to visualize making out with, having sex with, or dating...you. So, sexy smile, eyes, accent, whatever...depending on the woman. If you are googling, include "wayne elise" or "juggler" with "statement of intent" or SOI.
/r/seduction12/04/17 09:19 PM
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Calling them cute in an opener is called a direct opener. I've written about that here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/. I tend to open indirect playful, but MY GAME is direct, meaning that I'm clear in my intent, and I do that without telling them they are cute by using an SOI (statement of intent) after the hook point. (You can google this.) You are welcome to open direct; it will increase how often you blow out by far (so you need to open many…
/r/seduction12/04/17 07:31 PM
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Is your approach anxiety holding you back from #4? Stop finding excuses NOT to do things. Find reasons TO do things (like she is hot, let's open her). Many women are casual...be clear in your intent and screen them properly. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction11/04/17 08:17 PM
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The 2nd sentence isn't clear. You are just looking for friends? Again, you don't have to OPEN direct. You do have to be clear in your intent. They should know you are not looking at them as a friend. And physically escalate. Also, kissing them doesn't have to wait till the end of the date.
/r/seduction11/04/17 08:11 PM
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You have a self limiting belief...you think that people who tease are dicks. We are talking flirty teasing and banter..it's not dickish. We are not talking playful or underhanded insults (negs). Here is a banter deck PU101 gives for free, which should give you an idea. Avoid the crazy strong sexual ones like your GF doesn't spank you enough and you'll be fine. www.pickup101.com/daygame/handouts/FlashCards.pdf
/r/seduction11/04/17 08:08 PM
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How do I approach is a beginner's question, so belongs in /r/askseddit. Also, read the sidebar help again. You don't need common connections, just approach. If you get friendzoned often, you are not direct enough (I'm not talking about the approach itself). so read Mode 1 by Currie.
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:34 PM
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Open, tease, banter, some identity related conversation, get phone number (possibly have her write it on a business card or receipt if employees or customers are watching). No, don't become friends first. You don't need to be a regular either. In general, "how do i approach", is a beginner's question for /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:30 PM
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In that case, you have to say what city you are in because gyms as an example could be very different in LA, DC, a small town, etc. Also, it's more about you being able to open ANYWHERE when you see a woman you are attracted to, so if you are at the mall and pass victoria's secret and a woman is stunning...you should be able to do that. I have an article about gyms here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/ but keep in mind that a lot of redditors have strong self lim…
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:26 PM
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Depends on where you live. In my city...street approaches, coffee shops (including Panera), shopping malls, events, gyms, street fairs, supermarkets (Trader Joes, Whole foods), farmer's markets, etc. Make sure to approach many women at least several times a week.
/r/seduction11/04/17 06:22 PM
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If you really only have 1-2 minutes: You open with something situational and funny, tease, banter, get your identity in there, and use grounding in there somewhere (this is my neighborhood or favorite cafe to show normalcy/safety). Then set up a date and then get her #. Otherwise, I don't make a point of grounding. That said, make the time to talk to women and you will be more successful. I generally only do super quick sets on trains or buses or on bathroom lines... because one of us is leavng.…
/r/seduction21/03/17 05:43 AM
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Whole foods is a GREAT place to approach, in this area anyway. Malls are good too.
/r/seduction21/03/17 05:35 AM
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I have not seem enough decent targets at either of those stores to warrant going there just to pickup. Maybe your city is different. There one Target in DC that has SOME decent talent but there are still MUCH better venues. Trader Joe's, Panera Bread and Whole foods are better. You can certainly do daygame cold approaches without "harassing women." However, if you have the self-limiting belief that you are creepy or harassing women, you are.
/r/seduction21/03/17 05:33 AM
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How much older? You are in your 60's? Also, what city you are in makes a difference as far as venues. Without that info, here is a general answer: Go at least several times a week and make friends. Plan outings with your friends. Go to social events. Around here, there are a ton of social groups and events, plus many events in the arts (art walks, live jazz, paint and sips, etc). Embassy events work too for those who are older. Meetup works. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction19/03/17 11:30 PM
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Yeah, he does have to be clear in intent and escalate as well.
/r/seduction27/02/17 06:32 AM
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Have an actual conversation with her, and then ask her out.
/r/seduction27/02/17 05:45 AM
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Be clear in your intent, escalate, and get her out one on one...and escalate more. Read all the sidebar help and apply it. More in person and less text.
/r/seduction27/02/17 05:43 AM
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Graffiato has industry night sometimes. Looks like last one was in July but maybe you should ask them about it, since the page may not be updated. Good events, last I attended. http://graffiatodc.com/industry-takeover-nights/ You can follow up on this list too. Brine has been jumping lately: http://dc.eater.com/2015/11/23/9750642/best-industry-nights-dc
/r/seduction27/02/17 05:41 AM
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If something is meaningful to you and you are willing to put the work in...it is worth attempting. You don't need a social circle to approach. Approach 10 women a day fora year and let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction07/02/17 02:45 AM
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In NYC: Central Park, The Strand, Union Square, Street approaches, street fairs.
/r/seduction03/02/17 03:06 AM
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it's better to get their number. read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction02/02/17 06:46 AM
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It's just an easy comparison and games are fun. It's also considered an ocean. Sometimes a meat market.
/r/seduction31/01/17 06:28 AM
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Ask yourself how many hours are you approaching infield for every hour you are reading? If your answer is less than 3...read less and approach more. That said, I like Art of Seduction and for IOIs, Superflirt and Superdate.
/r/seduction31/01/17 06:27 AM
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Read all the sidebar help. Try setting up the date on the initial meeting. Be clear in your intent and if you need help with that, read Mode One. Learn to read body language better--the books Superflirt and Superdate can help with that.
/r/seduction31/01/17 06:24 AM
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His confidence improved or he started throwing funds around and dressing better.
/r/seduction31/01/17 06:22 AM
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No fix needed. They don't have to smile at you. Just approach and flirt all day!
/r/seduction31/01/17 06:20 AM
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Nope. Read Superflirt and Superdate for body language and flirting help.
/r/seduction30/01/17 07:24 PM
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Malls, stores, sidewalks, restaurants, cafes, bookstores, festivals/street fairs, art gallery openings, etc. I open with indirect playful. But, there is nothing wrong with opening direct as long as you don't open with "excuse me" or I know this is random but" or asking permission. I wrote about opening here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction30/01/17 06:51 AM
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Drop the "random" frame and have some control in your life. I don't pickup in "random" places or pickup "random" women. I choose places and women I like. :) But yes, lots of success in daygame.
/r/seduction30/01/17 06:01 AM
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I know I'm going to get flack for this but if you were in this area, I'd recommend a good hypnotherapist I know; he would help you with positive anchoring. It's not random. Stop assuming you know how the night will go. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy that could be a self-limiting belief (on a bad night). You are ALWAYS your best and a women who isn't interested for whatever reason won't change that. I know a guy who major state issues who was amazing to watch when he was ON and crashed when he w…
/r/seduction30/01/17 12:25 AM
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If she is not interested move on. If you want to better read if she is interested or not, read Superflirt and Superdate for body language help. As far as gaming "maybes," it's a waste of time that you could be spending on women who are actually interested/available. A "no" is good because it doesn't waste your time. Also, remember that your approach is part of initial attraction. If you are getting a LOT of initial "no's", look to your outer game, approach, attraction game (tease and banter and …
/r/seduction29/01/17 04:27 AM
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For a man, you open, and she waits a few minutes and joins the set. Or, you are with her already, and you open. Then she talks you up and occupies all obstacles. Have a signal for who your target is. She does not open for you. Pretty similar to using a wing man...but works better.
/r/seduction29/01/17 12:32 AM
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Because it's the man's job. The most they will generally do is send approach invitations (IOIs), or approach men who are out of their league. They are approached all the time and have abundance mentality--they don't have to approach you. It's a red flag that you expect them to approach you instead of you approaching them. Sounds like you have approach anxiety.
/r/seduction29/01/17 12:20 AM
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What is a booth babe? What kind of booth?
/r/seduction28/01/17 01:11 AM
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So do daygame, which is generally done solo anyway. Many people do night game solo as well. Kill self-limiting beliefs and excuses. Self limiting belief: If you think it's intimidating, it is.
/r/seduction27/01/17 04:22 AM
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I started game in my mid 30's and got good quickly but I PUT a TON of work into it. I was in-field nearly daily and got some coaching. I didn't find reasons NOT to approach, I found reasons TO approach. It's about being motivated and puttign the time and effort in. Deal with the self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are too old, not confident, not experienced nd it isn't worth it, that is all true...for you. I don't like the "catching up for lost time" frame....it puts your self under unnecess…
/r/seduction27/01/17 04:19 AM
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Everyone should think they are the prize (women definitely do). It's about self-esteem, not ego.
/r/seduction27/01/17 12:24 AM
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I think it depends on you. I've taken women to museums (I'm in a HUGE museum city) and it's never been a spectacular date (they weren't bad though). I have however picked up many women at a museum's jazz night at a sculpture garden and at art galleries, shows, and openings. Depending on your and her interests and the museum, it could go well as a first date.
/r/seduction26/01/17 10:31 PM
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Weekdays are great. Around here Sunday and Monday evenings are slow, Tuesdays are ok, Wednesdays and Thursdays are better. Odd that you are asking this question without saying what city you are in....since it depends on where you live. It can even be different for specific venues...like a Monday night burger night or wing night may be good at a particular place. Research your city and specific venues.
/r/seduction26/01/17 05:00 AM
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Social intelligence. Abundance mentality. Women (even average looking ones) are approached often and have to interact with men often...because they are in demand...just because they are women. Interacting increase social intelligence over time. But, women get nervous too...especially when they really like a guy.
/r/seduction26/01/17 04:50 AM
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Look for reasons TO talk to her instead of reasons NOT to...and then actually do it.
/r/seduction26/01/17 04:28 AM
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Keep going, kiss her, and escalate from there.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:28 PM
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You are talking about "building attraction" which you can google. There are a lot of ways of doing this, but I personally tease, banter, kino, lead, protect, make her laugh, am clear in my intent and escalate quickly, keep a strong frame, choose interesting conversation topics (identity related topics are great), and show my identity (or identities) clearly. Reading body language well can help too.
/r/seduction25/01/17 07:12 PM
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Here is the answer to your Ganas question: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ganas Well, a lot of men aren't clear in their intent and don't make a move quickly enough..., so women won't know if they are looking at the women as a potential GF, sexual partners, or bowling partner, or they think the guy is gay or uninterested. This si how men get put in the friendzone. Oh, you mean...if you quickly show actual sexual interest and escalate, will they know? They should...but a lot of gu…
/r/seduction24/01/17 05:45 AM
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What are you asking us?
/r/seduction24/01/17 04:26 AM
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A of it is body language. Read Superflirt and Superdate, in that order. bTW,a lot of people here have major self-limiting beliefs and will automatically tell you not to date coworkers (without even asking you questions). I'm ok with dating coworker if it will not effect your employment.
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:16 PM
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A lot of my daygame clients need to be told: "You are not interrupting them. Some also need to be told that a "no" is a good thing because it does not waste your time like a "maybe."
/r/seduction23/01/17 09:06 PM
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Actually, I've done well with bookstores/libraries on dates for pickup. Painting with her sounds good too, especially if it's part of his identity. It's more about identity and quality time than anything, so his ideas aren't bad. A painting class (some have wine) would work too.
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:53 PM
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Read Mode One (for being more direct with women) and Dale Carnegie How To Influence People (to make friends). Oh, so you have hobbies you can talk to men about...that can help bond with men (friends). Pick up some new hobbies that you can talk about. Food, cooking, travel, movies/tv (chick friendly) are good places to start. Also try looking for meetup groups that have interesting themes and include women you might be interested in. Maybe a hiking, arts, museum, dining group? It's up to your int…
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:50 PM
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No, oddly enough, women often don't realize they've even been approached because the approaches are so weak and intent isn't clear. Like...asking for directions or where the pet store is or bathroom is...or asking how to pick fruit at a supermarket. Maybe you are just looking for a bowling partner or friend. That's all part of why people who study game have an advantage...they are taught to show intent and escalate. So, when you approach well, the women LOVE it, and it is not nuisance. However, …
/r/seduction23/01/17 06:35 PM
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1st meeting if at all possible. Have you read Mode One?
/r/seduction23/01/17 05:21 AM
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This is a good fashion blog: http://www.kinowear.com/posts/ They ask for an email address...but you can make one up. LOL.
/r/seduction23/01/17 04:54 AM
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Yes, they are approached often. You'd be surprised how many times a guy starts a conversation in the produce aisle. Or on line at Starbucks. Or sitting at a bar. Or anywhere on a college campus. However, that doesn't mean that they are SOLID approaches. You can do better. Approach 10 women a day for a year and let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction23/01/17 03:27 AM
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You don't need to drink alcohol to approach in bars. Or shopping malls. Or on the sidewalk. Approach 10 women a day for a year and let us know how it goes. You are allowed to take Sundays off if you repeat 3 affirmations 10 times every morning. :)
/r/seduction23/01/17 03:25 AM
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Open immediately. There is no reason to wait. Read all the sidebar help. How do I open is a topic for the beginners board, #askseddit.
/r/seduction22/01/17 07:49 AM
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Years ago...I ejected a couple of times and the women looked shocked. I hadn't realized how well I'd been doing. One of those times, they said they were leaving, but meant with me. :)
/r/seduction22/01/17 04:57 AM
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LOL.
/r/seduction21/01/17 07:26 AM
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At least she isn't joking about having a penis. Had a girl on a date do that once. :) But seriously...it's about context, so give us some.
/r/seduction21/01/17 03:55 AM
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You need to learn what a shit test is, because it means you are doing well. It's not a game she is playing....it's how she tells if you are real and can handle her. Again, a shit test means you are doing well. Type of venue doens't matter....a shit test si a shit test, learn to handle them. I think there is sidebar help on this. That said, if you are a relationship guy I'm fine with you ejecting if they say they have a BF. I do well enough with women...that the BF shit test is not one they give …
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:01 PM
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Yes, and approach and least 10 sets (groups of women or even lone wolves) a day at least several times a week. I'd also recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate (T. Cox) for body langauge. i also like Art of seduction (Robert Greene) , and if you need help being direct, Mode One (Allen Roger Currie). Oh, and don't reply to this with self-limiting beliefs or excuses.
/r/seduction20/01/17 04:54 PM
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It's called a self-limiting belief. If you think you can't do something, you can't. If you think you are stupid, you are. Conversation about anything? Nah. Don't filter your words? Nah again. Seduction is for people willing to improve themselves and truly put the work in (this includes talking to thousands of women to build your social skills). Seduction is not for people who have already given up. Have you?
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:58 AM
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Read all the sidebar help. Also, "How do I talk to a girl?" is more of a question for the beginners board, #askseddit.
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:04 AM
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Yes, GT is in DC Proper, across the bridge/river from VA.
/r/seduction20/01/17 12:32 AM
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I've always done well here in DC..but it does have a rep as a bad pickup city despite the great W to M ratio, so you're response made me laugh. Georgetown is in NW DC, just over the bridge from Arlington, VA!!!! It is NOT in Maryland.
/r/seduction19/01/17 11:43 PM
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Ask her to write her # of a card, receipt or napkin (if you don;t want # taking to be that obvious). It's always better to take a # when you can.
/r/seduction19/01/17 09:45 PM
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I've only been to Philly with girlfriends, so don't know. Baltimore is great, even night game.
/r/seduction19/01/17 09:34 PM
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New York (daygame including central park) and Baltimore (day and night game) in my experience are easy. While I like DC (day and nightgame)...a lot of people who didn't learn game here...think it's difficult because the women here tend to be educated and have good jobs. Miami is supposed to be difficult unless you have a beach body, in which case it's easier. I hear Chicago is easy but haven't been. DC and NYC are good for logistics and have a lot going on and large pool of targets. W-to-M ratio…
/r/seduction19/01/17 07:57 PM
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Agree, Seriously. I'd rather people write and post videos about how to NOT wind up n friendzone in the first place. Once you are there in the FZ...it's more worth your time to move on, avoid oneitis, and go after new women without making the same mistakes.
/r/seduction18/01/17 07:12 PM
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So, he should try that with 100 more women who hewants to get with and see how they react? Brilliant! We could make a web series!
/r/seduction18/01/17 01:45 AM
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That is NOT small stuff. She acted normally. You showed her that you don't know how to appropriately speak to a woman. It's a social intelligence thing. I could tell my GF that story (shes exceptional)...but I wouldn't just tell any woman that story. Honestly, work on social intelligence...and the easy way to to have thousands of interactions with women until you catch up.
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:22 AM
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You should be clear in your intent, which does not mean you need to open direct. "Hey, what's your name?" is not direct. As for "don't go up and complement a girl because she will shut you down because attractive girls get hit on/complimented every day. "...bullshit, the problem with learning from people online who may not be successful at game and may have massive self-limiting beliefs. I wrote about direct vs indirect here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-…
/r/seduction17/01/17 05:12 AM
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No, don't be aloof and ignore her. If you aren't interested, she can move on. Don't be an ahole. You need to be clear in your intent and pursue her. Nonreactive is ...not reacting to things like shit tests. Don't be needy or a pushover either. Read the sidebar, btw.
/r/seduction16/01/17 02:45 AM
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Nonreactive is good and doesn't make you an ass. You could still be chivalrous. Not mutually exclusive. But, you still have to be clear in your intent and pursue her.
/r/seduction16/01/17 12:19 AM
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Next time, write down what you said when her body language disintegrates in one second. It once happened to me and i KNEW i hadn't done anything objectionable....and it was actually an external blowout. Nothing I did. It happened to a client at the end of a set he was rocking...and it turned out he had said something lewd, and she was done. Read superflirt and Superdate to better read body language and IOIs. That can help you see how well interactions are going and possible correct before they g…
/r/seduction16/01/17 12:13 AM
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Actually, women often give the answer of "listening." I never was good at the listening and remembering thing. Its why I put notes in with #s in my phone. I used to have a pivot who worked as my tape recorder, was funny. me: "What kind of law did she practice again?" Her: "Stacy has been practicing environmental law for 4 years. She also likes spicy food, has 2 sisters, and was really into you. Did you see her do this when you said that..." Another coach and client once approached my pivot and w…
/r/seduction15/01/17 11:54 PM
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Indicators of interest: attraction signals.
/r/seduction15/01/17 10:18 PM
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You don't always have to separate her. If she likes you and is sending IOIs, the friend may not interfere. The traditional way is to use a wing though.
/r/seduction14/01/17 03:15 AM
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It's a super low percentage, and those odds aren't worth a year of your life. Plus, maybe their situation changed and that may never happen. Remember in He's just not that into you, when they talk about "exceptions" and that the exception is always someone else? The one example I know of where it worked was he'd hit on her at salsa dancing (he kept the attraction up) but she wasn't single for a year. A year later her situation had changed...and he HAD been keeping the attraction up and was NOT H…
/r/seduction13/01/17 08:46 PM
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What do you mean by not having emotional intelligence? You get angry or scared at the wrong times or too angry or scared? Or you can't read other people's emotions? Or you can't get emotional rapport with people? Or, do you mean SOCIAL intelligence? Most men are logical minded and they still do alright with women. Approaching is a quick way to improve social intelligence and learn to do well with women by experience. Push your limits if you want to improve. If you do what you always do, you get …
/r/seduction13/01/17 06:31 PM
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I'd work more of improving your inner game and social skills with women (including reading body language) and then being clear in your intent/escalating and less about your virginity. OKCupid does work if your images, profile, and hundreds of initial messages are good. Your responses to their responses need to be good too. It's probably going to be easier, less time consuming, and more effective to just to approach hundreds of women in person. Red flags: 1. You don't talk about having read the s…
/r/seduction13/01/17 04:59 PM
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I agree, although I'd recommend the Op get it in book form.
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:25 AM
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I would end it. Tell her she is awesome and you really like her (if it's true), but that she isn't ready for a relationship (assuming that's what you want), and that when she decides she is ready to move forward, to drop you a lineto see if you are single. Absolutely resist any attempt for her to LJBF you. Several times, I've had women circle back, usually in several months or more when I already had a GF...except one which contacted me within a week and became a very serious GF. Assume this won…
/r/seduction10/01/17 02:29 PM
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Seems to me like OP gave up before he posted.
/r/seduction08/01/17 10:09 PM
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Yes, I'm short, chubby, balding, and older, and do well with women. However, you need to deal with your self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are too bald or short or are inferior, you are. Celebrities aren't accessible so I wouldn't worry about them...they are just...dreams. Work on inner game and confidence. Read all the sidebar help. And approach multiple women at least several days a week. Oh, and be clear in your intent with women. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction08/01/17 10:07 PM
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Certain things work well with most women, like confidence, humor, leading, having a strong identity, and being clear in your intent. Being insecure, needy, and not sure of yourself tend not to work well with most women. Some women are outliers, but there aren't too many of them and you can't get EVERY woman, but you can get great women. I've even done well with women who game doesn't work on...by being flexible and realizing that I needed to change what I was doing.
/r/seduction08/01/17 06:50 PM
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The biggest issue I see is the self-limiting belief that being Indian means white women won't date them, even in diverse cities like NYC and DC. The Indian men I know who do well...are confident and don't have that self-limiting belief.
/r/seduction07/01/17 07:35 PM
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Airports, hotels near airports? Research where FAs from different airlines stay, if you can.
/r/seduction07/01/17 07:06 PM
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It's on the right side. You may not see if it on your phone. It looks like this, so if you don;t see it, you can search for the thread names: The reddit self-improvement and seduction community! Official Seddit IRC Chatroom * Official Seddit Twitter * NEW HERE? Want to post? RULES & GUIDELINES Read THIS then THIS. These posts will give you a good foundation. All About Inner Game FAQ #1, FAQ #2 Top Posts of Seddit of All Time GLOSSARY OF TERMS A-G GLOSSARY OF TERMS H-Z Seddits: AskSeddit - Beginn…
/r/seduction07/01/17 07:03 PM
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Indication (or Indicator) of Interest. Check out all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction07/01/17 03:27 AM
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Could be a shit test. Or ... an IOI. I would have told her that she needs to slow down--that pretty soon she'll be chasing me around the bed. It flips the pursuer/seducer frame and gets them to visualize having sex with you.
/r/seduction07/01/17 03:00 AM
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/r/seduction06/01/17 09:48 PM
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It's about screening and being clear in your intent from the beginning. I wrote about it here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ BTW, questions about a specific girl belong in the beginners board, #askseddit, as per the posting guidelines pinned at the top of this board.
/r/seduction06/01/17 08:14 PM
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I've done this a lot. you can tease and banter, and kino (appropriately) hired guns more. be fun and flirty. I think its easier if she's your waitress, and it has nothing to do w/ tip...but yeah, go for it.
/r/seduction06/01/17 02:25 AM
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"Now the issue is, I am ethnically Indian and I've heard that there is a lot of racism in NYC towards Indian people and especially Indian men. " That is NOT true. NYC is very ethnic and open...more than many other places. Plus, there is an indian area in Queens in part of Jackson Heights which has good food. You ahve a self-limiting belief. If you think ppl look down on indians or things are harder for you...it's true.
/r/seduction05/01/17 05:18 AM
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Theoretically ... do some google searches on "How to get your ex back." It's bull shit though, most likely won't work, and I don't recommend it. Moving on is better.
/r/seduction01/01/17 09:20 PM
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No, it doesn't change anything. Move on ... next time be sure before breaking up with someone.
/r/seduction01/01/17 09:01 PM
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IMHO, You shouldn't pursue women that hate you or are uninterested, whether they are an ex or not. And, an ex is an ex for a reason, so move on and persue other women. Your ex isn't going to "forget" WHY she hates you on why you are an ex.
/r/seduction01/01/17 08:39 PM
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No, it's more about value. It works well for women because of their perceived value. In men, you're value has to be higher than hers, but that isn't always about looks, and sometimes it is because your value is high or hers is low. It's like online dating, the women who go out of their way to contact me...aren't the ones I'd generally want. PLUS, in the US are expected to lead and pursue...so hard to get may not be the best option.
/r/seduction01/01/17 08:28 PM
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I didn't watch the video, but the coquette types form Art of Seduction fall under this. This type of approach DEFINITELY work for women but the men I know who play this off are "male models" and even then...some of them are going for women less attractive than themselves.
/r/seduction01/01/17 07:25 PM
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This question is asked A LOT so I'd recommend searching the board. My recs are: The Art of Seduction by Greene Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox and, if you need help on being clear in intent with women, Mode One by Roger Allen Curry The PU101 Banter Deck is free on their own webpage and is a useful model for banter lines. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction01/01/17 07:22 PM
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/r/seduction01/01/17 07:19 PM
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Try the Kokology 1 and 2 books. They are Japanese personality games. I've used the Fabulous Book of Questions as a fun way of getting to know someone buy taking turns selecting questions. Which questions they select can be very telling.
/r/seduction01/01/17 12:18 AM
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Then move on. Next time be clear in your intent and escalate from the begining.
/r/seduction31/12/16 05:59 AM
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Are you already in the friend zone?
/r/seduction30/12/16 02:18 AM
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It's easier because it is NOT a cold approach. So, less approach anxiety means easier to open. Also, because a warm approach is more socially common...responses tend to be better. It's easier to come up with openers too (how do you know Jake, how long have you been a member of AARP, do you hike often), and in some cases (speeddating, or when people introduce you so open for you), it is opened for you. Now...keep in mind...it's also easy to mess up a social circle and social circle only have...wh…
/r/seduction29/12/16 03:06 AM
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In a relationship so working on that. I'll work on the coaching business too. Been in game about 10 years. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction28/12/16 10:07 PM
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Give us a ton more info including why you think she is rebellious. Also describe the approach and whether it is a cold approach or not. Also, what do you have to say and why should she listen? Why should she "do" what you want her to? (If that's even what you were trying to say).
/r/seduction28/12/16 08:51 PM
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Here you go. A simple google search and it was the first hit: http://postmasculine.com/how-to-get-laid-from-bars-and-clubs
/r/seduction28/12/16 07:00 AM
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Approaching is the quicker way of improving your game, and it will help you with online dating later.
/r/seduction26/12/16 11:31 PM
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Strong eye contact or eyes down and then back up at you are good. Usually, they'll look away sideways when not attracted/interested. You're game/approach could be the issue. If you think you are creepy, you are....it's called a self-limiting belief. Keep making eye contact.
/r/seduction26/12/16 09:27 PM
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If your game is tight in person, you can do well in all kinds of environments, including FB. Internet daters tend to do particularly well at FB game because they already know an online skill set including have good pictures, initial messages, online conversation skills, and in person dating skills (from going on tons of dates).
/r/seduction26/12/16 08:54 PM
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she's not interested.
/r/seduction25/12/16 08:39 AM
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The difference is in your head. Women are women...some react well or badly, regardless of how attractive you perceive them. Kill the self-limiting beliefs...if you think attractive women are more difficult or you cant do this, they are and you can't. read all the sidebar help....and "how do I approach" is a topic for the beginner's board, #askseddit. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction24/12/16 08:48 PM
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I that where he is is located is important info for us. I asked the same thing. He could be in Saudi or Indonesia ... or in the US Bible Belt...who knows...
/r/seduction24/12/16 07:36 PM
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I did well as a teen approaching families on vacation and that was 15 years before I learned about game. I have a friend here that does well with families...well enough that the parents help him...but he has really tight game and is good at working groups. He's married now, so that was a few years ago. We don't know what "traditional" means to you so tell us what country it is.
/r/seduction24/12/16 07:34 PM
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You should be clear in your intent from the beginning.
/r/seduction23/12/16 08:10 PM
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Rating women based on their interest in you seems needy. They can be hot and not interested in you and vice versa.
/r/seduction23/12/16 07:10 PM
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Unless you are talking BSDM and can use Fetlife or something...it probably not going to be easy for you. Men lead, men chase, and most attractive women in the US enjoy and are used to this. Besides, the women who do the chasing usually do it for a reason (whyever they don't get approached or the attention they need), meaning, they may not be the ones you want.
/r/seduction22/12/16 08:55 PM
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Either of those is good, but I don't consider the first one a definitive IOI (sometimes it is). The 2nd...I do. In either of these cases, open immediately. Heck, open immediately even if they don't do these things, if you are attracted to them.
/r/seduction22/12/16 02:38 AM
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Well, Even If I'd went out 4 days a week, I still would have been good by 6 or 7 years ago. :)
/r/seduction21/12/16 06:14 AM
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I went out 6 days a week for my first 2 years. I was good in a year and coach level in 2. Strong inner game and persistence and willingness to really put the time and work in...will get you where you need to be.
/r/seduction21/12/16 03:00 AM
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I'm old, short, bald, and chubby, and worked on my game until I became very good at it. Read all the sidebar help and go out often to open sets and talk to tons of women. Read Superflirt and Superdate for body language reading and help.
/r/seduction20/12/16 08:16 PM
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The relevant belief here is that you are "*Confident, Powerful, and a Seducer." Feel free to replace those 3 words with your own affirmations. And, say them every morning. *Quoting my coaching partner, Discovering Knowledge, who is a hypnotherapist.
/r/seduction19/12/16 07:21 PM
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It's called a self-limiting belief. If you think you are too old or creepy, you ARE. 28 is not too old...
/r/seduction19/12/16 06:08 PM
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He has to bring his wing into his set and ID his target. There can be signal to enter and signal for who target is. A wing isn't always needed, regardless of group size. Well, if you are waiting to wing the set...then just watch (for the hook point) and wait. You can even give him feedback on the set. I would only both open sets at same time if you don't really NEED wings. Otherwise, the wing isn't available.
/r/seduction19/12/16 04:11 AM
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Learn how to read body language so you can tell how interested they are (IOIs). I recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. Both are out of print, but are generally sold for pennies plus shipping on Amazon Used. You don't initiate talking ABOUT kissing, you just do it ... when the woman is receptive (read the books I mentioned for IOIs). Also, "making a girl" make out with you is the phone frame. They have to WANT to kiss you. Work on your game -- read all the sidebar help, inclu…
/r/seduction19/12/16 12:38 AM
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Oh, approach anxiety. Get over it (read sidebar help) and approach like crazy and figure out your goals from there.
/r/seduction18/12/16 06:51 PM
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Inner game.
/r/seduction18/12/16 07:42 AM
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I wrote about meeting women at the gym here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction18/12/16 06:07 AM
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So, if she is infatuated with you but looks like a Wookie....that's ok? Go for her? No. Wait, you are saying you should be more interested just because they are? Nope. Approach the ones you are attracted to, run solid game, read her signals well, and if there is no interest, move to the next hot one. Don't lower your standards. Cuisine Daygamer.net
/r/seduction17/12/16 07:45 PM
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Strong inner game/confidence.
/r/seduction16/12/16 03:48 AM
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She doesn't REJECT you. A NO or a YES are good things because they don't waste your time like a MAYBE. Her not being interested, available, or straight is not a rejection of you as a person.
/r/seduction15/12/16 03:05 AM
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I think it's more about what you consider a rejection (framing). To me, a woman having a BF, being gay, or just not being interested or available is NOT a rejection. It's more about her than you. She is doing you a favor by telling you not to waste time on her. A YES or NO is a good thing while a MAYBE is a waste of time.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:57 PM
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You aren't reading her right. You may also be kinoing too much or inappropriately.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:57 AM
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For hot women? Yes. So does mixed signals (for hot women). :)
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:55 AM
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LJBF. Lets just be friends.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:55 AM
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She just LJBF'ed you. Move along.
/r/seduction13/12/16 03:35 AM
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Just open. You don't have to physically block, stop, or grab a woman. If you open confidently and well, they will stop.
/r/seduction11/12/16 07:04 AM
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Great that you are opening. Stop having other people push you into approaching. Do it yourself. Stop lying. You need to be confident in who you are and your identity. She may have been shit testing you about age. Read all the sidebar help. Stop doing whatever that "bitch butterfly" thing is and stop opening women with the intention of offending them or talking about penises. Work on your confidence, inner, game, and approaches. Ideally, you should be able to approach on your own without a friend…
/r/seduction10/12/16 03:27 AM
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I think you need to learn how to read IOIs better. Try reading Superflirt and Superdate. You also need to be clear in your intent and escalate.
/r/seduction09/12/16 09:21 PM
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People are busy...as long as they setup and follow though with the date, it's cool. No everyone is a huge texter. Again, she is showing high interest and you are showing low interest.
/r/seduction09/12/16 06:00 AM
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Stop starting conversations by framing it as random. It's an old way of (insecure way) of prefacing a direct opener. Just open direct. "I saw you and thought you are adorable." is fine. a "hey" before it is fine, like "hey, I saw you and thought you are adorable" but I wouldn't use "hey" as the entire opener. You are also asking for a name too quickly...there should be more conversation first. Teasing and banter should be in there too. Oh, and opening with "excuse me" would be worse. Stop with t…
/r/seduction09/12/16 05:57 AM
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WTF? She is showing high interest and you are showing low interest. If she has decent self esteem ...and you calcel like that, you'll probably lose her for cancelling -- you are telling her you came up with a better offer. She's being responsive enough.
/r/seduction09/12/16 02:40 AM
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If you believe it to be so, which is a self-limiting belief.
/r/seduction08/12/16 11:12 PM
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Saying you are rude...frames it as rude. It you hadn't done that...nothing would have been rude.
/r/seduction08/12/16 10:26 PM
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You were only rude because you FRAMED it as rude. Otherwise, nto rude at all.
/r/seduction08/12/16 10:01 PM
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While I dont like admitting you are rude as an opener or saying you are ok with her saying no....since you should assume attraction (be confident)....her being painfully shy probably helped you a lot...good job. BTW, that ddnt seem like too difficult a set...ive seen some weird sh1t. :)
/r/seduction08/12/16 09:02 PM
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Traditional Game is designed for hotter women...but yeah, mostl likely it's you and not the women.
/r/seduction08/12/16 08:21 AM
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No, it's very common in men...since it works well on women. :) You can be funny and serious as the situation requires but I bet you define serious differently than I do.
/r/seduction08/12/16 07:36 AM
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This question is asked A LOT. I recommend searching this and the beginners board (#askseddit). This is more something you have to figure out something for yourself based on your skill level, situation, and logistics but common answers (except the ones I made up to see if you are paying attention) are: Work out your home logistics...like the adult man you are. car (hers or yours) her place hotel/motel the office (hers or yours) a park Bathroom stall in a restaurant, bar, club or university (find …
/r/seduction07/12/16 10:16 PM
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Art of Seduction, Robert Greene. Superflirt and Superdate, Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction07/12/16 04:46 AM
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Posts about a specific woman belong in the beginners board, #askseddit, as per posting guidelines at the top of #seddit (this board). And, she didn't give you her # when you asked again. Facebook just isn't the same thing...I don't even KNOW some of the ppl on my FB friends list. :) Oh, you like in Artartica where you can only date one month a year? Nope...it's called a self-limiting belief...if you believe the weather is a hindrance, for you...it is. She isn't interested. Otherwise, she would m…
/r/seduction06/12/16 11:32 PM
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Eh, that last paragraph includes self limiting beliefs regarding capacity, brains, and indefinite mental torture. There are plenty socially awkward clients we've helped that you would have thought didn't have the capacity to be good with women but they had the drive and put in at least twice the effort and time and got good. So, please don't install your self-limiting beliefs in Seddit readers. :)
/r/seduction06/12/16 12:46 AM
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Yeah, it all framing, like when people here talk about approaching "random women." NOBODY approaches random women...they just approach the ones they are attracted to...rather than just approaching every fourth woman they see (some of which could be 70 years old).
/r/seduction05/12/16 01:27 AM
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Try topics like Food, travel, chick flicks/tv, adventure, fassion, pets, identity (music, hiking, food, travel, art, etc, if you are really into it, etc). Also, try improv classes. And stop thinking of it as "small talk." It's all "talk." LOL.
/r/seduction04/12/16 09:33 PM
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Read all the sidebar help. It's daygame but should be a little easier since more women in one place. Plus, being a student there could give you more to talk about but isn't a necessity.
/r/seduction04/12/16 06:11 PM
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There are answers to all these questions in the board and on the internet in general. A lot of getting better at things is researching them. That includes researching venues in your city (you didnt even tell us where you are). A few tips: As You know, you have self-limiting beliefs. If you think advice is unactionable, it is. If you think you have nothing to discuss, you don't. If you think "never ever anywhere that has attractive single women around" ... then that is true for you (even if you l…
/r/seduction04/12/16 05:14 PM
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Oh, a self-limiting belief! If you think it (stuttering or whatever) is a problem, for you it is. If you think you can never do what we can, you can't.
/r/seduction03/12/16 07:20 PM
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It's about getting out there in the field and approaching women A LOT! And then going on a lot of dates. And then calibrating so that you improve what you are doing. I got good in a year and coach level in two because I was out talking to women nearly daily. A few hours won't do. Here's a quote: "10,000 hours. The widely touted theory, highlighted in a 1993 psychology paper and popularized by Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, says that anyone can master a skill with 10,000 hours of practice. The…
/r/seduction03/12/16 01:39 AM
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Oh, and read all the sidebar help including the one on Approach Anxiety and apply it all in field.
/r/seduction29/11/16 02:03 AM
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no, you can make whatever excuses to yourself about opening that you want, but it's still plain vanilla AA. Men tell themselves that you aren't into THAT woman, or have to go to the bathroom, or just need an opener, or whatever...so that they don't have to open. it's just excuses. Open hot women like crazy ... you can use the same opener all day if you have to.
/r/seduction29/11/16 02:02 AM
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This is a basic daygame approach, so you can approach like you would anywhere else. If you are not already approaching, read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety." Hmmm....Read it regardless. Also, the Posting guidelines say that "How do i approach?" is a topic for the beginner's board, #askseddit. This is the intermediate board. What? When we talk about obstacles, we mean a person. Like your target's less attractive friend who is bored or jealous or needy or rude when her friend's g…
/r/seduction24/11/16 07:24 PM
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This advice won't be useful for most people because most women will not contact you first. Women (especially attractive ones) are pursued all day, so don't need to be the pursuer. Exception: you are more desirable than they are (male models or filthy rich or maybe a surgeon)...but then you can do better. OR...if you have tight game and are working on hired guns (not waitresses or bartenders because they can easily give their # on a napkin or receipt, but more likely store or event employees) whe…
/r/seduction16/11/16 11:26 PM
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No, a friend and I simulated improv in the day, when we were learning. We took turn creating sentences in a storie.
/r/seduction11/11/16 02:35 AM
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It's a self-limiting belief. If you think you are boring, you are. read all the sidebar help. Read Superflirt and Superdate to better read body language. Try improv classes.
/r/seduction10/11/16 05:23 PM
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I'm friendly with people in general but I only pursue women I am attracted to.
/r/seduction10/11/16 04:19 AM
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Read all the sidebar help. Are you talking about popular topics like food and travel? Using humor? You're energy level has to be higher than hers. What are you doing to work on your conversation skills? No, don't physically touch her to stop her. She should want to stop because your opener and conversation is good. You mean they see you and look away? Or they just don't see you coming? One set a day isn't enough. try 5 and then 10. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction09/11/16 11:42 PM
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Read all the sidebar help, including "approaching." BTW, "How do I approach" (as per the posting guidelines at the top) is a topic for the beginner's board, #askseddit. This is the intermediate board. That said, walk up to her, and use anything around her (books) as a prop. be humorous if possible. Or...just open direct, like "I saw you and I had to meet you." Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction09/11/16 11:36 PM
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You don't. And, stop taking it so seriously.
/r/seduction26/10/16 05:38 AM
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Superflirt & Superdate by Tracey Cox (available on Amazon Used). Read those first. You say more than you think by Janine Driver is good too.
/r/seduction21/10/16 06:05 AM
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I've seem Mystery in person in field repeatedly and he did not bore men or women. He does not seem borderline Asperger's in field with women.
/r/seduction20/10/16 09:40 PM
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Awesome... flirt with (and kino) the new girls,and if your female friends really are your friends they will either cheer you on or come over and help you out (make you look good) with the new girls. A female friend who helps you with other women is called a "pivot. As far as worrying about people watching or what they think...deal with that self-limiting belief...your harshest critic is yourself.
/r/seduction16/10/16 08:59 PM
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Read the body language books, Unmasking the Face (Ekman), and Superflirt and Superdate (Cox). While Danial Goldman has written books on Social Intelligence and Emotional Intelligence, I haven't read them. The more women you approach, interact with and date (that's what this subreddit about), the more you develop your social intelligence.
/r/seduction15/10/16 05:38 PM
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sounds like you would be leading her on...
/r/seduction11/10/16 02:21 AM
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It is the man's job to lead and approach women. Attractive women have no need to approach since they are approached all the time. Hence, you not being approached does not mean you are unattractive. Approach women you are attracted to....which is NOT random. If you approach every 4th woman you see, that IS random. Deal with your self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are ugly, you are. If you think you cant do something, you can't. When you socialize...don't bullshit...be genuine. Don't even bel…
/r/seduction10/10/16 11:13 PM
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Self improvement is the goal.
/r/seduction07/10/16 07:05 PM
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Makes no sense. attraction doesn't work the same in men and women. Neither does value.
/r/seduction06/10/16 08:22 PM
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"Now, most game literature says to EXPECT girls to be cold from the off when being approached by a stranger. There's also the 80/20 rule where, as a result of that, you are the one expected to do most of the talking." This (women are cold upon approach) is not true and is a self-limiting belief. I approach with indirect playful..and they aren't cold. The 80/20 rule doesn't IMHO have to do with women being cold; to me it has been about getting them interested in the very beginning and then they t…
/r/seduction05/10/16 01:38 AM
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You are too worried about what other people think. They usually don't notice or care who you are talking to...and the better you get at game, the better it looks from the outside anyway...like you already knew the women instead of t being a cold approach. Push yourself...approach more women...until you get more used to it. Work your way up to larger sets and mixed sets. Sets greater than 2 can be easier than 2 sets (you can tell me why, OP), but 2 sets aren't difficult either. People find night …
/r/seduction05/10/16 12:06 AM
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read the books Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox.
/r/seduction27/09/16 04:19 AM
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Just do it. and read all the sidebar help including approach anxiety.
/r/seduction24/09/16 06:54 PM
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Read all the sidebar help and apply it. Work more conversation into your approach before asking for name, nationality or number. Include some teasing and banter.
/r/seduction24/09/16 12:02 AM
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NYC is great for daygame. Try Central Park (I like Sheep's Meadow), Union Square Park (and Farmer's Market), Strand Bookstore. Street approaches work fine....I did a bunch on the UWS and Midtown West. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction21/09/16 03:48 AM
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Oh, if you have the things women look for in men (like some of these: social and leadership skills, connects with others, protector, strong identity, ambition, good sense of humor, etc) and are smart...you will do well with smart women. If you are arrogant about your intelligence...it may not be as helpful.
/r/seduction18/09/16 08:49 PM
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There is a huge difference between you and him and it doesn't have to do with BEING creepy. It is called a self limiting belief. If you believe that you are or will be creepy...then it is true for you. read all the sidebar help including approach anxiety. Also, since this is a "How do I approach?" question, it belongs in the beginners board, /r/askseddit. I've opened many times on the bus and train. Here is an train (metro) example of mine from a previous GF: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/05/13/a…
/r/seduction15/09/16 12:57 AM
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I can't speak on Asperger Syndrome since I'm not a mental health professional. I'm thinking this is the wrong board for advice about Asperger, a developmental disorder. There have to be mental health (or Asperger) sub boards out there somewhere. As far as shy guys, yes, they can do well with women (and at daygame). As far as the OP, seems like he should stop taking "cold turkey" breaks and instead try to social and practice on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be all "daygame sprees" and could…
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:23 AM
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She isn't supposed to text first, since she is the woman. You are the man, so you should lead.
/r/seduction12/09/16 11:24 PM
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Read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety." BTW, "how do i approach?" belongs in the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. And, kill the self-limiting beliefs -- if you think you are weird, you are.
/r/seduction12/09/16 11:23 PM
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Stop putting women on a pedestal. Open them just you would any other woman you are attracted to but don't forget to: tease and Banter You'd be surprised about the nature of women's self images. Don't assume you know what theirs is. Don't assume women are actively highly sought after just because they are hot. Read all the sidebar help including approach anxiety.
/r/seduction10/09/16 10:30 PM
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Speak to her within 3 seconds. And read all the sidebar help including approach anxiety.
/r/seduction10/09/16 10:27 PM
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That they ask that question too often. Don't worry about what other people think about that.
/r/seduction10/09/16 05:00 AM
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Read the books Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. You are wrong about Mystery Method...it will work in general, not just clubs. Regardless...it helps to flirt with women from when you meet them...
/r/seduction10/09/16 04:11 AM
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Just do it. Be clear in your intent.
/r/seduction09/09/16 09:40 PM
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pull a chair from another table (I usually do this) take a chair from someone seated there (I rarely do this but sometimes you have to) kneel if you have to (I almost never do this) just do the set standing (you lose value after a short while though)
/r/seduction09/09/16 09:39 PM
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I do too.
/r/seduction09/09/16 06:19 PM
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They look away...in which direction? sideways? down? up? Talk to the woman regardless....just do it....don't wait for IOIs. Deal with your self limiting beliefs...if you think you are weird or unattractive, you are. If you believe you will fail, you will. Deceived? how? Sounds like an IOI. btw.
/r/seduction09/09/16 05:05 PM
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Are there resources or other subs for improving with women when autistic? This sub doesn't really support that topic..since it's more of a mental health issue. I know plenty of ppl with ADD/ADHD who do well with women. Also, you don't need FULL Independence, but you do need a place to pull (even if it is hers).
/r/seduction09/09/16 05:03 PM
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You can do well with women without much in the way of funds. I did well as a grad student. If you can take women home...then living with your parents is workable. If not, go to her place or look into other options.
/r/seduction09/09/16 05:00 PM
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All that information is available in good quality. Tons of good books and other resources are out there. Bookstores and libraries are good resources...but many people are looking for an easy fix and think one reddit post or youtube videos will solve everything. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction09/09/16 04:01 PM
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If it's working, keep doing it.
/r/seduction08/09/16 02:29 AM
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Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction08/09/16 02:28 AM
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Read the sidebar help, including the one about Approach Anxiety. Also, how do I approach belongs in the beginners board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction08/09/16 02:09 AM
1

It is not about muscle and not ruining your game. Use it to your advantage by maximizing the type, "The Dandy" from Robert Greene's book, art of seduction.
/r/seduction08/09/16 02:08 AM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate (in that order) by Tracey Cox. Amazon Used sells them cheaply.
/r/seduction07/09/16 08:03 PM
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Learn how to read physical IOIs. Those are teh real initial signs. I recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox
/r/seduction07/09/16 02:03 AM
1

Where are you located?
/r/seduction06/09/16 05:38 AM
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Go out and approach 10 women a day for 2 years. Let us know how it goes halfway through.
/r/seduction05/09/16 11:12 PM
1

Who knows what the real situation is. Just move on.
/r/seduction05/09/16 10:03 PM
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Use the dogs. There was even a demo by Sean Messenger (on Infield Insider) of how he uses his dog in pickup.
/r/seduction05/09/16 10:01 PM
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The fact that it was 5 women means it's you and not them. They weren't that into you or that comfortable with you. Work on getting your game solid. It doesn't have to do with NYC since it didn't happen to me when I was there. DC isn't like that either for me. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction05/09/16 10:00 PM
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No, so no.
/r/seduction05/09/16 09:57 PM
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You can see if you can find Vince Kelvin's daygame disk...it's full of cold reads. There is also the Ring Routine, which I've seen in PDF or audio form. Or learn tarot reading or astrology. Happy googling.
/r/seduction05/09/16 09:57 PM
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Yes, they generally do more of the work because they have to... Same openers as any other women. Read the sidebar help. I wrote about openers here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/
/r/seduction05/09/16 09:55 PM
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Of course I do. That's why we have a 3 second rule. Women have good peripheral vision....and can see you looking at them. It's creepier to want to approach and not approach. I once took my time approaching because I had a tea order arriving shortly, and the woman (a 9) asked "what took you so long?" (Yes, a shit test.)
/r/seduction04/09/16 04:41 AM
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This seems simplistic, but just ask them what they are passionate about or what their favorite thing to talk about is. Any woman who didn't have something like that, I nexted. I'd probably lead with one of your passions first...and then ask.
/r/seduction04/09/16 03:27 AM
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Glad to help. if you approach in a natural/confident way...it looks like you know them already...like you are friends. You can't be "incredibly confident" (in your interactions with women) and worry so much about being the creepy guy. sorry.
/r/seduction04/09/16 03:24 AM
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Wait, you are approaching random women? Like every third woman you see? If you approach the ones you are attracted to, it isn't random. Framing it as "random" isn't a great mindset. :) Wait, the cafe was random? Like you used a number generator to select it? Why do you keep framing things as random. Yo SELECTED the cafe. That's conscious decision. ""What if she is older than me?", "What if she is younger than 18?", "What if she has a girlfriend right around the corner?" These (and thingg being d…
/r/seduction04/09/16 03:16 AM
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You don't have common topics like food or travel that YOU are passionate about? If so...use them. I've only ever had 1 woman tell me she doesn't want to talk about food. Remember that you will do most of the talking at the beginning.
/r/seduction04/09/16 02:29 AM
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It's a self limiting belief. If you think you are creepy, you are. It's creepier not to approach. :)
/r/seduction04/09/16 02:07 AM
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Fix the body language! Try the books, Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. you Say More Than You Think is fine too...after youve read the other 2. However bad your body language is...we've seen worse and seen it corrected. Those weren't shot tests if they really had boyfriends or weren't interested. People will get shit tested when the woman IS interested. How to respond to a woman actually having a boyfriend? Like you try and get them anyway? Or you gracefully exit? Deal with your self limit…
/r/seduction04/09/16 02:06 AM
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She isn't interested and ghosting is easier than cancelling. A lot of women are uncomfortable "rejecting guys" as well, often with good reason. I'm not defending her. If this is happening often (let's say more than a few times)...look to yourself and your level or game.
/r/seduction04/09/16 02:01 AM
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Give examples of the topics of your deep conversations.
/r/seduction01/09/16 02:59 AM
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Its better just to kiss her.
/r/seduction31/08/16 03:22 AM
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10 an hour...means each one is only a few minutes long and doesn't give you time to have actual conversations if things are going well. It's definitely quality over quantity but lets say 10 approaches per outing...and if you wind up in some long sets that are going well, that's fine. Sometimes you'll talk to the same women for 30 minutes or more. I've even had many insta-dates that were at least several hours long. Remember to have fun. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction30/08/16 11:57 PM
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If you approach correctly (confidently and naturally), it looks like you know the women already (like you are friends), so you won't look creepy. So...kill the "creepy" self-limiting belief...or it will be true for you. Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction30/08/16 07:27 PM
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Yes. Kill the self-limiting beliefs. If you think you will get blown out, you will. Work on confidence. You can make friends with women INSTEAD of dating them or sleeping with them, but this is the wrong subboard for that. What are you doing to become more social? Approach 10 women a day for a few months and let us now how it goes.
/r/seduction29/08/16 09:01 PM
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Read the sidebar help including AA. It's the same as other day game approaches, including supermarket and other stores. I might go situational playful (use products as props) or just use any other opener, even banter like Crayola Kid (check this article of mine for opening: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/). Open 10 women a day for a few months and you'll get the hang of it.
/r/seduction20/08/16 09:18 PM
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The resentful reactions is a red flag about how you tell your story. Stop defaulting to the boring corporate description, preferably about a business or aspect that you are passionate about. Come up with a story...can you focus on the fashion business? You can start small, by saying you are in fashion and introduce the business itself a little farther along. From there...introduce the other businesses but...but by then you are past gold diggers. You are casual, right? Not looking for a Gf or wif…
/r/seduction20/08/16 05:11 PM
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Either way, it's still called a shit test. Besides, you WANT to get shit tests...because girls do them when you are doing well....to see if you are real and can handle them.
/r/seduction20/08/16 03:06 AM
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Read the books, Superflirt and Superdate (both out of print) by Tracey Cox. Amazon Used carries them really cheaply.
/r/seduction20/08/16 02:34 AM
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NYC and DC work just fine for me.
/r/seduction19/08/16 04:32 AM
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If a man does it, it's called a neg.
/r/seduction16/08/16 11:36 PM
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have a conversation with her before asking her out.
/r/seduction10/08/16 11:26 PM
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Go out, approach, and don't worry about rejection. When woman a gives you a YES or a NO...it is great. Why is a NO good? Because it doesn't waste your time...like a MAYBE can. So, if she isn't appropriate for you for any reason...she is doing you a favor by not wasting your time...she is getting out of your way so you can approach other women until you find the right one(s). Now, kill the self-limiting beliefs and excuses and approach 10 women a day for a year.Then get back to us and let us know…
/r/seduction10/08/16 05:18 AM
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I've done it successively with the woman across from me in metro. An example from a previous GF: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/05/13/a-metro-approach-3-years-ago-how-i-met-my-girlfriend/. If she is already seated next to you, it is the same as as any other approach but easier. Just talk to her. Have you read all the sidebar help? A "how do I approach" question like this one (seated next to each other) is more suited to the beginner's board, /r/askreddit. Stop thinking about opening and just do t.…
/r/seduction08/08/16 04:59 PM
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You can pull with minimal or no texting. Your in person game is much more important.
/r/seduction07/08/16 09:58 PM
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If you work on self improvement aNd get out there and keep approaching...you will succeed eventually. But, you miss 100℅ of the shots you don't take Nd this is a numbers game....so you have to put the work in. Plus....it isn't rejection....if she's not appropriate for you, she's doing you a favor by getting out of your way so you can meet other women. A yes or a no is A Good thing because it doesn't waste time like a ...maybe.
/r/seduction03/08/16 07:20 PM
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Sure: You are not interrupting them -- women like to talk to confident men. Talk to store employees too. In the food court...(or anywhere else people are seated) sit down within a minute or two if they are sitting down when you open. You can try instadates or going for date closes (and thena sking for # instead of straight number closes). Don't open with "xcuse me," by asking permission, or "I know this is random but"... Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:43 PM
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How many women that you opened are you basing this "lots of rejection on"? 300? 1000? Or have you not started opening yet and this post is based on your fear of rejection?
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:39 PM
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Mystery Method is old...there are newer books by Mystery. The Game is old too...and more of a story than a game how to. People do like Models. I like Art os Seduction and for body language, Superflirt, Superdate, and You Say More Than You Think. If you get LJBF'd a lot, try Mode One.
/r/seduction03/08/16 06:13 PM
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Yup, the OP should instead be looking for Indicators that she is interested. after all, you find what you are seeking. He isn't coming from an abundance or confidence or assume attraction mentality.
/r/seduction31/07/16 08:57 PM
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Stop overthinking it or even trying to figure it out but "you're not very good at texting, or giving hugs" is a neg that I would not give to a woman. It just isn't. Now, just move on.
/r/seduction31/07/16 07:56 PM
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She's probably not interested. If she was interested, she would probably have found time on that or another day and offered it. You can ask her out one more time if you feel you HAVE to, but if she declines again, just move on. Approach another 50 women and let us know how it goes. Also, the subreddit for questions about a specific woman is the beginner's board, /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction31/07/16 06:29 PM
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You don't need to ask how they are via text, but if you can't get them out in person, they aren't interested in you.
/r/seduction31/07/16 05:30 PM
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If you believe your height is a problem, it is! Same for musculature. That is called a self limiting belief. Read all the sidebar help including shit tests, because some women will tell you they don't date short men and it can be a shit test. Confidience is key...assume women will be attracted to you. Stop comparing yourself to other men. They have nothing to prove to you and you have nothing to prove to them. Assume that you are wrong about whoever the "short guy" on youtube is. Go out and appr…
/r/seduction31/07/16 03:16 PM
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If it happened only a few times, I wouldn't worry about it because it's probably a shit test. Read the sidebar on shit tests. If women routinely ask if you are gay because they are interested so want to know what team you are on, use that to your advantage by using (maximizing) the seduction type "the dandy" from Robert Greene's Art of Seduction. I disagree with the advice you got from Hollyhoe about reframing yourself as her gay unless you WANT to be in her friendzone. Humor could work if used …
/r/seduction31/07/16 12:45 PM
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A lot of the coaches back in the day were British. Plus, there was a Croatian one. Should work fine in Europe.
/r/seduction31/07/16 01:11 AM
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These are your self limiting beliefs. As long as you believe they are true...they are true for you (so deal with them and deal with your approach anxiety): I can't connect the dots between me reading about it and doing it in real life guys are fighting over them i'm hounding or intruding I'm going to look pretty weird using a pick up line (You don't have to) I'm going to look pretty weird walking up and saying hey to a girl girl who's being approached by several guys per minute (It's nto true, b…
/r/seduction30/07/16 01:55 PM
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Have you tried posting in https://www.reddit.com/r/DCSeddit/ since you are in Dc as well? Cuisine, Daygamer.net
/r/seduction30/07/16 01:20 PM
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Both work. Ask 25 women out for Saturday and 25 for Sunday and see what works better for you. Friday nights work well too as do well nights. I often offer two options (at least one being a week night) when I ask a new woman out.
/r/seduction29/07/16 01:22 PM
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Buy them on amazon used for a few pennies plus $4 shipping each.
/r/seduction28/07/16 05:11 AM
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Read Superflirt, Superdate, and Mode One. Nice guys aren't clear in their intent, which is what you do, hence the Mode One recommendation.
/r/seduction27/07/16 07:51 PM
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There is this, which seems to be exactly what you are looking for: http://sigtbd.csail.mit.edu/pubs/veryconference-paper10.pdf Men who need help with women probably need a whole lot less data and arm-chair experience and more self-development and real world experience...but let us know if the above link helped you in any way...with actual women.
/r/seduction27/07/16 04:34 PM
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If it's outside of seduction, this is probably the wrong board for it. Drom296 has it right...we want to encourage in person game. Your competition is doing it. ;)
/r/seduction27/07/16 12:52 PM
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They get little attention for a reason. You want to do less texting and emailing and more in person game. If it's online dating, have a well designed profile with good pictures and a string initial message, a couple of messages and then either get them on the phone or directly on a date. So, electronic messages are fine for date logistics (or if there is no other way to contact her because she is on vacation or something).
/r/seduction27/07/16 12:51 PM
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This is a question only you can answer. You know where you live and what is available. If you want to tell people where you are, maybe they can help... If you believe that not driving is an issue and will hinder you with women, then it is true for you. That is a self-limiting belief. as far as revealing non driving, that is fine. be confident. Get your game tight. People overcome all kinds of obstacles with tight game. Please don't respond with excuses or self limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction26/07/16 10:55 PM
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you can tease, banter and tease hired guns more. i use a custom business card for hired guns if employees, bosses or customers are present. read superflirt and superdate for body language.
/r/seduction25/07/16 09:37 PM
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yes, it works. i started in my mid 30's, 10 years ago.
/r/seduction25/07/16 09:22 PM
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This isn't an academic field, so what you want doesn't exist. You could research psychology of dating instead...maybe. if you are actually trying to be better with women...try Art of Seduction.
/r/seduction24/07/16 02:36 AM
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Girl code.
/r/seduction23/07/16 09:58 PM
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"wasnt looking for anything serious," means she is casual. Maybe you put off a "serious" vibe, so weren't what she was looking for. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ Women flake. Learn to run more solid game and it will happen less but may still happen. Open many more women.
/r/seduction23/07/16 05:46 PM
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Be clear in your intent and screen women for compatible goals. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/ Don't kino less and don't put off sex. Sexual escalation is key and quicker is better if possible.
/r/seduction23/07/16 02:56 PM
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Yes, repeatedly. Deal with your self-limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction22/07/16 08:15 PM
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It all works. I've had success on weeknights and weekends day or night.
/r/seduction22/07/16 05:46 PM
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Approach the one you are most attracted to. If you can't make that decision in one second because they are equally attractive, and none of them are IOIing you, go for the one closest to you (It's arbitrary but I'm just making sure you open instead of debating who to open). Read Superflirt and Superdate for body language signals.
/r/seduction22/07/16 04:55 PM
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You find what you expect to find. Clyde linked two different kinds of bias for you. The thing here is to approach every woman you are attracted to...not to worry about who is dating who. A woman can say that don't date X's (which you happen to be) and then she dates you and when people ask about her having said no X's...she says "he is different." It's about how you make women feel. Blondes and brunettes are both women...they react the same. If you have a self limiting belief that blondes wont l…
/r/seduction21/07/16 04:11 PM
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I've screened for high sex drive this way: Ask them what qualities the look for in a man. If they describe you...you are doing well. They will then ask you what qualities you look for...have several normal qualities that you look for and "high sex drive." Now they know you have a high sex drive....and may even qualify themselves to you. It works for me. Edit: Check the comments here for where I talked about screening: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4bmp3u/examples_of_screening/ You …
/r/seduction20/07/16 08:26 PM
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Ridiculous. Your should be using a SOI (statement of intent) in the initial pickup. That means telling her something about her is sexy. INTENT and being clear in it is a HUGE part of game!
/r/seduction20/07/16 02:32 PM
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You are the man so you do the approaching and leading, whether intro or extro. Dont wait for women to approach you since hot women dont have to do much approaching. Introverts can be alpha and high status.
/r/seduction20/07/16 12:06 AM
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The answers to your questions: No, read the sidebar help, no, various. Deal with your self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are too introverted or shy, then you are. A lot of women are introverts too...not that it matters overly much. I date introverts and extroverts and so do women.
/r/seduction17/07/16 09:22 PM
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Only you know if your decision is correct for you. We can't decide that for you. If you weren't up for it, it's fine to decline. You don't have to sleep with just anybody.
/r/seduction17/07/16 07:41 PM
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Read all the sidebar help. Read Superflirt and Superdate for help reading and sending signals. You can also try either Models or Art of Seduction (my favorite). How many women did you actually ask out? Keep approaching.
/r/seduction17/07/16 07:39 PM
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I think that a lot of women (and this gay man) who want to be coaches target the market of straight men because it is a huge market when they can do better coaching their own market (being more specialized) where they have less competition. I bet he can do well with gay men, especially ones looking for a relationship.
/r/seduction17/07/16 02:53 PM
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Read the sidebar help. Also, "How do I approach" is more suited to the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. I recommend reading Superflirt and Superdate for body language/IOIs (both available on Amazon Used) and a seduction book such as Art of Seduction (other people here suggest Models). If you need to learn to be direct with women, read Mode One. As far as casual, be clear in your intent and screen for casual. I wrote about that here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-…
/r/seduction17/07/16 02:27 PM
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Many times. How they respond Depends on the woman. I've dated taller women although my current gf is my height (without heels). Now, approach 10 attractive women who are taller than you a day for a year and let us know how it went. Deal with your self-limiting beliefs about height and read the sidebar help.
/r/seduction17/07/16 04:50 AM
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Seduction is not a race. It's about quality of the interaction. Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction16/07/16 06:26 PM
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Wow, they think your question is too simple for the beginner's board? That should tell you something but they are wrong. It is clearly stated in the posting guidelines here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/10ioux/xmodx_updated_seddit_rules_posting_guidelines/
/r/seduction16/07/16 06:24 PM
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Take notes in your phone...maybe in a post-it note app. Some ppl use spreadsheets.
/r/seduction16/07/16 06:14 PM
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Read all teh sidebar help. Plus, that is a beginner's question (how do i approach?) and about a specific girl, both of which belong in /r/askseddit.
/r/seduction16/07/16 06:13 PM
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Seems like he has an uphill battle. He might do better coaching gay men. Or maybe women?
/r/seduction16/07/16 05:47 PM
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They are out of print. Amazon used sells them for a few cents plus $4 shipping. They are worth owning physical copies.
/r/seduction16/07/16 05:45 PM
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How confident are you?
/r/seduction16/07/16 02:35 AM
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These are moral decisions you make for yourself. Yes, you should care about what matters to you. Personally, if she's married or attached, I move on. I don't always agree with the "don't shit where you eat ppl" -- they even use that phrase for women at the gym
/r/seduction16/07/16 01:57 AM
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She isn't available. Whether she likes you is irrelevant which is why you shouldn't have told her. Unless she is the cheating kind, i guess.
/r/seduction15/07/16 08:02 PM
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Trains: people's body language is always worse there so approach anyway. Positioning is important. Ask them where they are getting off so you know how much time you have to get a # because it's really limited timeframe. Learn to read body language/IOIs, so read the books Superflirt and Superdate. Cuisine, daygamer.net
/r/seduction15/07/16 04:08 PM
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yes, human being enjoy sex.
/r/seduction15/07/16 04:04 PM
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What mold, Indian men and blond women? Yes (in DC area), I had a bangaldeshi coaching assistant who exclusively dated blondes. What holds a lot of indian guys back is the self-limiting beliefs that they can't get whites or blondes, so if you don't have that (or deal with it), you'll do fine. BTW, not sure exactly why, but I've known a lot of Indians who dated Jews...but often its Indian girls and Jewish guys.
/r/seduction15/07/16 02:34 PM
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You preferably seduce women in person. you can set up the meeting when you meet them.
/r/seduction15/07/16 02:31 PM
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Depends what he is teaching. He won't have experience actually getting women (or female role of getting men) but maybe can help you with other things like outer game, date planning, etc. If it's about actual seduction, him being a dating advisor to other gay men probably makes more sense and in that case he can show you the reactions he gets in field (IOIs). What specifically does he teach and to men or women?
/r/seduction14/07/16 05:53 PM
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Read sidebar help on shit tests.
/r/seduction14/07/16 05:57 AM
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Work on getting your game tight first. Customers aren't people to "learn" pickup on. As far as risking your job, that depends on your job and situation.
/r/seduction14/07/16 05:56 AM
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I've seen people start conversations and day and night game (and done it myself and had my clients do it). And, yes, one of my major GFs was during her metro (train) commute. Whether or not you've seen it is not your problem. Your problems are approach anxiety and self limiting beliefs. If you believe it is crazy, it is. If you believe you don't have the balls, you don't don't worry about what other people are doing and go talk to some women. Open 10 women a day for a year and let us know how it…
/r/seduction14/07/16 05:24 AM
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Introverted girls = girls. Same same. Shy = pay attention to ANY IOIs including weak ones or verbal ones. Any IOIs are strong signals from them. Keep persuing and being clear in your intent and physically escalating as long as getting IOIs and they are still going on dates with you. Read Superlfirt and Superdate for IOIs.
/r/seduction13/07/16 04:48 PM
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It's a self-limiting belief -- If you believe it's a problem, it is. Read the sidebar help on shit tests since you will get them.
/r/seduction13/07/16 03:15 PM
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Well, nothing helps more than going out and doing it in person. :)
/r/seduction11/07/16 10:20 PM
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Watch Amog Battle on youtube by Asian Playboy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhEAFk7CA8
/r/seduction11/07/16 06:40 AM
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I focus on the target although I'm friendly to everyone. If the rest of the group sees that the target is IOIing you...they often occupy themselves (mini isolating the target for you).
/r/seduction11/07/16 04:21 AM
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That's tricky. Wait too long to be clear on who your target is and they made decide for you (and you don't want that one, lol).
/r/seduction11/07/16 04:19 AM
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Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction11/07/16 01:01 AM
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I'm in the South but not as far south as the bible belt -- the DC area (DC, Northern Va, and MD) has a lot of interracial dating. Plus there is a high ratio of women to men.
/r/seduction11/07/16 12:48 AM
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Read all the sidebar help, including that on AA. There is also a beginners board, /r/askseddit/
/r/seduction11/07/16 12:44 AM
1

I hear the physical NYC lairs died too. Same with DC.
/r/seduction11/07/16 12:42 AM
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Try https://www.reddit.com/r/gothamseddit/.
/r/seduction10/07/16 10:22 PM
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It's your job as a man to lead, hence you do the chasing/initiating. Keep doing it. Who initiates texts or dates may become more even later in the relationship.
/r/seduction10/07/16 09:15 PM
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You can ask them out when you meet them in person the first time. So, no waiting but definitely have a conversation first. Research venues in your city since we don't know where you are or what is available. You can get friend zoned if you dont ask her out and/or do not escalate her and/or are not clear in your intent. You need to be assertive and confident with her. "Creepy aggressor" is your self limiting belief....so if you believe it, it is true for you.
/r/seduction10/07/16 07:53 PM
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In general, ask for their # instead of giving yours. You are the man, you lead. There is no point of switching from electronic to electronic communications. Get her out in person....that's the point. So, ask her out. No reason to continue the convo if not in person.
/r/seduction10/07/16 07:48 PM
1

Wait, some people don't believe in love? Really? Nobody in game has ever told me they don't believe in love. Are you just making a judgement based on perceived lifestyle?
/r/seduction10/07/16 06:57 PM
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I know many PUA coaches (and PUAs) from back in the day that are now married. The Coach who trained me and I winged with got married about 8 months ago and I spoke at his wedding. I also have clients (including recent ones) who have gotten married. i think the issue here is...."Seductionist lifestyle"because I don't know what that means to you. You may mean womanizer or you may mean they dated a lot while looking for the right woman or you may just mean they learned through the community.
/r/seduction10/07/16 06:54 PM
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Basically, I do a lot of playful indirect openers (think Wayne Elise AKA Juggler) and banter/teasing. I talk about direct and indirect openers here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/.
/r/seduction10/07/16 05:40 PM
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Ok, you need to learn game in general. It's not specific to UK. Approach like crazy. Work on inner and outer game. Don't open with "excuse me" or "I know this is random but." BE CLEAR IN YOUR INTENT and if you need help with that, read Mode One by Currie. Confidence is key. Kill any self-limiting beliefs. Assume women will be attracted to you. You are from India?
/r/seduction10/07/16 04:22 PM
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Are you good with women in your own culture or you are trying to learn on UK women? If the latter, read all the sidebar help. Eh, you can read it either way. And, open 10 women you are attracted to a day.
/r/seduction10/07/16 04:01 PM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate, by Tracey Cox. (The body language would be the same but she does happen to be a British author.)
/r/seduction10/07/16 03:40 PM
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I'm not a club game guy (not is my game based on doing samedays although I've done them when it was obvious the girl was down)...but based on other kinds of game: There are several (4?) screening questions for same day lays. Google them. I know one has to do with how they got there (are they someones ride, can they leave alone). I think one has to do if they have to get up early in the morning. But look them up for sure. If the girl doesn't meet the screening questions, you can get her #, but mo…
/r/seduction10/07/16 03:16 PM
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What is the context? A woman you just opened? A woman you are dating? Is she IOIing you? "It's just all me, me, me and selfishness..." What? She isn't being selfish, she is answering your questions. She may not be interested in you but that doesn't make her selfish.
/r/seduction10/07/16 04:49 AM
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I don't consider people who want to improve themselves and are willing to put the work in to be losers. I've had many awkward clients. As long as you believe self limiting beliefs like "being too far gone" or too weird or a socially awkward loser, they are true for you.
/r/seduction10/07/16 02:26 AM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate for flirting. Art of Seduction may be helpful too. And you may want to post in /r/fpua. If you think you are old or inferior, an everyday woman, or less than man counterparts, you ARE. Those are called self limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction09/07/16 04:16 AM
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That and "assume attraction." :)
/r/seduction08/07/16 08:21 PM
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Until you open them in the next 3 seconds. Again, open them. If they break contact by looking down...it's a good signal, especially down and back up at you. Open, open, open. Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction08/07/16 06:14 PM
5

It's really simple. Approach every single one of these women you are attracted to. After you've approached 50 of them, let us know how it went. Don't assume attractive women get hit on a lot...some do and some don't. And it doesn't matter either way, because the other men are not you. Stop finding excuses not to open.
/r/seduction08/07/16 06:12 PM
2

Starting advice is probably more appropriate to the beginner's board, /r/askseddit/
/r/seduction08/07/16 06:08 PM
2

Work on your game so that you can pull women. This includes reading all the sidebar help. MILFS are still women. Read all the sidebar help. Then go where the MILFS are and approach them. Embassy events? Hotel Bars? Bars with older age ranges? Internet requires having your pics (but not identity) on the internet If people you know will find you and that is a problem, don't do internet game. You'll do better in person anyway.
/r/seduction08/07/16 04:38 PM
1

If you want to go indirect, try indirect playful, like opening on teasing, banter, or other humor, since it humor is powerful. You show sexual interest by using a statement of intent after she is already likes you (shows a few IOIs). You can look SOIs (Wayne Elise) up, but basically, you either tell her something about her is sexy or you get her to visualize kissing you, having sex with you, or dating you. Or, read Mode One by Roger Allen Curie (a book about being direct with women), but just do…
/r/seduction06/07/16 05:13 PM
2

Not from Miami.
/r/seduction05/07/16 11:42 PM
4

I've done it when there was no other way and in relationships, but newbies think that they can run game via text instead of in person and it doesn't work as well.
/r/seduction05/07/16 10:10 PM
1

I recommend it for my clients but because you feel so negatively about it...you should skip it.
/r/seduction05/07/16 08:22 PM
19

Assertiveness/confidence is key. Game should be run in person, not via text. If you need to setup logistics for a date, that's ok via text. Read Mode One regarding being more direct with women. Read all the sidebar help and deal with your approach anxiety. You don't need anyone to be with you for you to approach. Cold approaching will help your game, and then you can do better at online game. Approach 10 women a day for 1 year and then let us know how it went. Stop making excuses and deal with t…
/r/seduction05/07/16 05:02 PM
3

Work on your initial response -- it's really basic. Also, look at your profile and pics.
/r/seduction05/07/16 05:06 AM
1

Stop text chatting women. Game should be run in person. You can text to setup the actual date. From first date on (or even during the original pickup if you can), setup dates in person.
/r/seduction05/07/16 04:57 AM
4

Be clear in your intent. If you need help being direct, try the book, Mode One. And read all the sidebar help/
/r/seduction03/07/16 01:31 AM
1

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/r/seduction02/07/16 05:31 PM
2

Try posting this on /r/fpua read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox Learn what an "approach invitation" is but that's really what above the book recommendations do, even though they don't call it that. I'm mentioning the phrase in case you want to google it. Laugh at his jokes even if they aren't funny. Ask him about himself. This often starts with "So..." Here is an article I wrote about screening and goals: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skill…
/r/seduction02/07/16 05:13 PM
9

I just say my age. I knew a 35yo (10 years ago) who used to tell women in their early to mid 20's as a response that he likes mature 28 year olds...then they would qualify themselves to him. worked for him but I never tried it.
/r/seduction02/07/16 05:03 PM
1

Keep escalating and see what happens.
/r/seduction02/07/16 03:47 AM
2

I did well in my mid thirties with women in their early to late twenties because I was already working on my game. Now I'm mid 40s and date mid thirties. It gets easier...as you work on your game so your game improves. How many days a week are you out cold approaching? How many women do you approach each day?
/r/seduction01/07/16 05:06 PM
4

Clean you place up. let them know you are moving too. But yeah, invite her over.
/r/seduction01/07/16 04:48 PM
4

I agree with Ian. OP: The second you use the phrase "Text Game," we know you're concentrating on wrong things. Game is something better done in person. Same with asking women out (and as soon as possible). Also, kiss her as soon as possible.
/r/seduction01/07/16 04:45 PM
5

A good wingman can occupy all obstacles, male or female. They make you look good, not bad like Pidgeon. Good wings are hard to come by. You don't often NEED a wingman. In daygame you generally don't at all, and in nightgame, you can get social proof the bartenders and other staff in places where you are a regular. Mehow has something called "Solo Winging" that you may want to research. Also, if you have female friends who want to help you, they can be your wings (pivots) too....if you need it.
/r/seduction01/07/16 03:58 PM
2

Best ratio? Washington, DC? A hookup? You have sex with them and never hear back? Hookup is too vague a word. Bad frames/Self-limiting beliefs (if you believe it is so, it is): 1) first dates but they are essentially pointless and a waste of money 2) it's vicious out there 3) you are in competition with other men 4) my personal statistics do not land in my favor by any stretch (whatever that means) 5) I must be doing something so awful 6) It is slowly killing me Sound advice: (BTW, are you an au…
/r/seduction30/06/16 02:11 PM
2

Yes, i get hotter women in person. all over campus. If you think you are a pickup weirdo, you are....it's called a self-limiting belief.
/r/seduction30/06/16 06:31 AM
3

Read the sidebar.
/r/seduction30/06/16 06:29 AM
1

Be clear in your intent. Read Mode One if you need to. Being friendly is fine.
/r/seduction30/06/16 06:28 AM
2

If your goal is LTR and the women don't meet your standards, they shouldn't be in your rotation. Actually, that works for any goal. It's not as much about where you pickup as being clear in your intent and screening women for the same goals. I've written about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction30/06/16 06:27 AM
4

Stop being reactive and letting people get to you. Otherwise, you are proving that you are what they think you are...someone whose buttons they can push. I don't think this was a shit test...unless they were attracted and wanted to see if you are real...so I disagree with banthas...but it should be treated similarly...read the sidebar help. You could also have "yes and'ed" them...and ran with humor. Made it into a crazy but funny and obviously untrue story.
/r/seduction29/06/16 03:23 PM
1

This is a great question but it is specific to the person (you). So, what I look for in a woman, and what you look for may be completely different. Also, how do you screen is as important as what you are screening for. Being clear in intent is important too. Also, some people are serious (looking for a relationship) and some casual. Check my comments on this Seddit post about screening: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4bmp3u/examples_of_screening/
/r/seduction29/06/16 03:19 AM
2

Yummy food in NYC or DC, i can make recs. LA or Miami, I cannot. I'm not sure you will find a GF anywhere in a US city only a month. Depends on your game level and how serious you are about it. You'll have to go out a LOT!
/r/seduction28/06/16 08:24 PM
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Ok. A lot of women don't want to date people they think are just looking for green cards (even if you don't state it that way). RSD is your benchmark, eh? Good to know. Well, pulling it off at all may be tough because of the distance thing, but a month is as good a number as any if your game is good i guess. But also, you aren't spending a month in one place, which will make it harder because you don't even have a month. There isn't a set number. Face to face is better of course. Why don't you c…
/r/seduction28/06/16 08:00 PM
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If you are good with women in the UK, it should be the same in USA. If you aren't, the accent isn't a replacement for having game. You will move to the USA if you get a GF here (USA)? The us and uk are awfully far apart for a long distance relationship, so many women won't be interested. Why don't you just date women in the UK, where you won't have the distance issue? A month isn't a lot of time to do this. Both are good food cities, btw. NYC and DC are good food cities as well and have good F t…
/r/seduction28/06/16 06:55 PM
1

You have never started a conversation with a woman because you have approach anxiety. Read all the sidebar help. As long as you think you are too anything (tall, short, back, shinny, fat), you ARE. It's a self-limiting belief. Work on confidence. 3.You don't know how to read they are physically attracted to you (read superflirt and superdate) but attraction is more than physical. Approach 10 women a day for a year and let us know how it goes. Stop sleeping with women you aren't attracted to. It'…
/r/seduction28/06/16 05:00 PM
1

Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction28/06/16 02:45 PM
1

It's called a self limiting belief. If you believe that your height matters, it does. Confidence and good game can go a long way. Expect to be shit tested -- read all the side bar help. I'm your height and do well.
/r/seduction28/06/16 04:28 AM
1

I wrote about amog defense here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/09/19/cockblock-amog-defense/ I also linked a youtube video by Asian Playboy called "Amog Battle."
/r/seduction26/06/16 10:04 PM
1

But why can't you practice on (and improve with) hot women? Why can't you improve that way? Is there some huge inner game issue holding you back?
/r/seduction26/06/16 04:40 AM
1

Superflirt, Superdate, Art of Seduction.
/r/seduction26/06/16 04:38 AM
1

I still don't understand why someone would bother gaming attractive women. If you aren't attracted to them, there is no point. Abundance mentality and all that.
/r/seduction26/06/16 12:09 AM
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No. I only go after women I'm actually attracted to. Even when I was a newbie. Experience with unattractive women won't help you much -- they may do a lot of the work...but since you don't want them, there is no point.
/r/seduction25/06/16 02:01 AM
1

Get her out in person and see how it goes. If you can't get her out, cut her off. Her calling me dude wouldn't bother me . Ive had girlfriends that occasionally say "dude."
/r/seduction24/06/16 09:53 PM
3

Social skills are measured in person by the reactions you get. Talk to 10 women a day for the next year and then let us know what social skills of yours improved. :)
/r/seduction23/06/16 08:05 PM
1

I've responded to your fears on this matter previously. I have NEVER been yelled at by an angry feminist upon approach. The ONLY reason that it might happen to you is if you keep the self-limiting belief that that scenario will happen. self fulfilling prophecy. Why would the allegations be false? You are going in there with the mindset that you are going to get someone angry...so you will. That's a true allegation. Go in with the intention of having fun and assume attraction (and no fucks given)…
/r/seduction23/06/16 06:00 PM
1

"> But you're right, a lot of pua's live under the poverty line (me as well... FOR NOW). I noticed that if I apply the principles I learned while learning pickup (noticing what's working, setting BIG goals that excite me, like rather than wanting to get a girl, wanting to learn game to get 10 fuck buddies) to my career, success will almost be inevitable.>" I have SOOOOOO been there. There was a time out a grad school where PU was the only part of my life that showed easily measurable results/imp…
/r/seduction23/06/16 05:45 PM
1

Usually, time and money. Right now, I'm good since I'm in an LTR. Why do you ask?
/r/seduction23/06/16 04:49 PM
2

I was serious. Thanks for explaining. :)
/r/seduction23/06/16 04:48 PM
3

"side note, the way the whole thing played out is different then what its like typing it here." Then why are you telling it to us in a way that isn't true? That couldn't help you get solid answer. I dont understand the references (League, 4chan) in this but this was via text or other online communication? You always want to get the girl out in personal ASAP. If you cant get har out, move on. No idea if she was shit testing you (read the sidebar help) or just isn't interested...but "if it was jus…
/r/seduction23/06/16 04:01 PM
2

Exponential seems like the wrong word. I was in field nearly every day for 2 years. Not much happened the first few months but by the end of year one I was getting good and by year 2, I was coach level. I kept having successes that I couldn't have pulled off a few months before. So, yes...as long as you put the work in. Hardcore extroverts seem to have a more difficult time at first (they have more to work on all at once) and then it gets much easier for them later on.
/r/seduction23/06/16 02:31 PM
2

Mini isolate her (move her or re-position her) . Or have a wing or pivot there to occupy obstacles. You can use other people (men or women) to occupy obstacles or each other. You can learn to get #s more quickly. You can also use body positioning to stop a man from entering your conversation (like keep turning your back to block him out). look up Amog Battle from Asian Playboy on youtube for some help stopping men form talking to women you are talking to....but understand that he is a PUA and yo…
/r/seduction23/06/16 02:20 PM
5

If you cant get her out on person, move on.
/r/seduction23/06/16 02:10 PM
1

Read the sidebar help. If you think you are creepy or bad, you are. That is called a elf-limiting belief. Yes, go do a ton do daygame.
/r/seduction23/06/16 01:27 PM
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Hotel bars. Embassy events. cold approach day or night game (30's). Can I ask why you want women old enough to be your mother?
/r/seduction23/06/16 02:11 AM
2

How old are you?
/r/seduction23/06/16 02:09 AM
2

It's oneitis and excuses. :)
/r/seduction22/06/16 05:51 PM
1

In general, pursue don't contact or message women you aren't attracted to. Since you were already in the process this one time, I don't have a problem with you meeting her but if upon meeting her, you weren't attracted to her, don't pursue. Sometimes you get lucky and she looks much better in person (I think it's happened to me only twice, lol). Whats with this did good or bad stuff? You don't need our approval for something you already did. You went out, cool.
/r/seduction22/06/16 05:38 PM
5

You don't. High value men are confident and approach the women they are attracted to. Remember that the man leads, which means you don't wait for women to come to you but instead approach the ones you are most attracted to. You are in control of your dating life. Most of the women who approach...aren't the ones you want anyway, since you can choose them better than they can self-select and high value women don't need to approach men (they are approached all day). The men who ask me about women a…
/r/seduction22/06/16 04:12 PM
1

At the time she asked you out, I might have told her I don't drink and switched it to a great coffee, tea, smoothie, etc place i know. Now, you could tell her that you don't drink but are happy to go there and get soda or food or and you can even suggest somewhere else. Don't lie about not drinking. She will ask why you dont drink...
/r/seduction22/06/16 02:55 PM
1

Get the word "shunned" out of your vocabulary. Plus, it's a self limiting belief. If you think you will be shunned, you will. No, you don't have to drink alcohol. Drink water, soda, whatever. i don't believe in getting a drink that looks like it is alcoholic and lying about it if they ask about it, btw (like Nepheronia said). No lying.
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:50 PM
1

How old are you? 25 is easier than 35 is easier than 45, etc. (and a lot of men gain weight and lose hair as they get older). In the game, our game improves as we practice it, so it's offset. So, my game in my 30s blew away my game earlier in life, but it was because I found the seduction community. If I'd had game earlier, I would ahave done even better.
/r/seduction22/06/16 01:45 PM
2

Read all the sidebar help including that one Approach Anxiety. Deal with your self limiting beliefs. If you think you are offensive and a predator, you are. Sounds like you are over-kino'ing (physically escalating too quickly or incorrectly).
/r/seduction22/06/16 02:46 AM
1

Read the book, Mode One.
/r/seduction21/06/16 09:10 PM
1

Her place, motels, cars, or work it out so you can use your place.
/r/seduction21/06/16 08:14 PM
2

she's an extrovert. You are hardcore introvert. Maybe she's just wrong girl for you, in which case yo should stop wasting your time. Most men here (especially the introverts) complain that the women don't contribute enough to teh conversation early on, so they have to do most of the talking but seems like that doesn't work for you. The cinema is usually a bad first date but for you...a movie is time you don't have to talk and its not an energy drain. But you do still have to talk to and connect …
/r/seduction21/06/16 04:14 PM
1

People video or audio tape themselves so that they can get a better idea of what they are doing in order to make improvements. They can also show it to more experienced people for feedback. Coaches do it as advertising. I see below that you are asking about fake alegations but I haven't seen that happen with myself or people I know and I've been doing this about 10 years. Now, real allegations are different so stay away from underage women. :)
/r/seduction18/06/16 01:29 PM
1

read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction18/06/16 02:26 AM
1

Just approach. so what if you approach the same girl twice? Itis happened to me too...no harm no foul. You care too mcuh about how you are perceived. As far as direct, you can try this. Do direct when you are already getting IOIs and indirect playful otherwise. See how that works for you. Have you tried playful funny openers? like opening on banter?
/r/seduction18/06/16 12:26 AM
1

which one, shy OR uptight? They are different. I thinkyou are assuming uptight when she is just shy or nervous. For shy, it's the same, including being clear in your intent, but pay more attention for IOIs, including physical and verbal, because you could get weaker ones that do matter, or none and then a strong verbal one that matters. Etc.
/r/seduction16/06/16 06:51 PM
-2

Do some research on "daygame venues"
/r/seduction16/06/16 06:49 PM
1

Say "thank you." no need to reciprocate immediately as a response.
/r/seduction16/06/16 06:48 PM
1

are these just friends? Or you are sleeping with them?
/r/seduction16/06/16 06:48 PM
6

Kissing her is a good was to show you're not gay.
/r/seduction16/06/16 01:21 PM
0

You are the man, so you need to approach/initiate and escalate. Don't wait for the grapevine to tell you... Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction14/06/16 05:07 PM
1

Read all the sidebar help and work on your game. Once your game is tight...you won't have to ask this question since it's pretty much the same (other than risking your job). If you aren't an expert at reading body language and interest, read Superflirt and Superdate.
/r/seduction14/06/16 05:04 PM
1

"cold approaching in a group is cringe worthy" This is a self-limiting belief, so for you this is true. You need to fix it. "..girls could sense that...desperation is not a good look." That's another SLB. Approaching does not mean "desperation." Successful approaches come from confidence, abundance mentality, and being social. If the women have a good time, all is good. If you believe you come off as desperate, then you do. Please don't respond to me with excuses or more self-limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction13/06/16 05:07 PM
2

Yes, you learn seduction and the body language of it first and then apply it. Read these body language books: Superdate and Superflirt. You can add the Definitive Book of Body language if you don't want it to be dating only but read the other 2 first.
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:53 PM
2

Treat it like a bookstore (or any store with products like books as usable props). You may need to be a little quieter than a bookstore, but that depends. BTW, it wasn't a lack of familiarity that stopped you...but approach anxiety.
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:37 PM
2

Absolutely. Get good at the social/seduction aspect of it and then you can apply it to business. Also, try approaching one or two...hundred times as a very basic start. Once or twice won't do it. Thousands is more like it. Have you tried looking for a business sub to help with your business questions?
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:27 PM
-5

Wait, why is she just a friend? Why haven't you kissed her? That's the bigger issue.
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:23 PM
1

Oh, I see what you are asking. I once ejected from a set because they said they were going dancing. They looked at me shocked because they meant WITH ME. Oooops.
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:21 PM
1

I was too high energy with crazy body language...like Simeon form season two of The Pickup Artist. Ok, maybe he was slightly rose than me at first -- I'd have to ask his coach (we had one in common).
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:18 PM
4

I agree. Also, I tend to plan the hangouts, so I just wouldn't include the person.
/r/seduction13/06/16 03:15 PM
4

This is tricky because: Some women are more of less approachable based on factors other than looks (body language, dress style, facial expressions, positioning, and whether they are alone or in a group of women or mixed group. So, some very attractive women are approached like crazy and some rarely. But, since you are talking about average, which is a 5 out of 10...I would think 5s get approached less. Since we in game don't generally approach 5s...we aren't asking 5s how often they are approach…
/r/seduction13/06/16 02:09 PM
5

So,much fewer targets. If it was me...I'd be all over the ship, including buffet meals, gyms, pools, etc and approaching wherever there were groups of women or lone wolves. Especially early on. The shows may be hard to pickup at but you can bounce to the shows. Bottom line, have fun and approach hot women every chance you get, and you'll meet women along the way. Having your own cabin should help.
/r/seduction13/06/16 12:53 AM
3

Read all the sidebar help and approach, approach, approach. Is it a singles cruise?
/r/seduction13/06/16 12:03 AM
4

"Thank you" is the answer but also work on your game and approach (especially but not only if they hold eye contact or look down and back at you). Read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction12/06/16 11:22 PM
1

You can screen women for all kinds of qualities. I tend to want "good girls" who are honest and faithful since I'm relationship based. Check my responses re screening in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/4bmp3u/examples_of_screening/. So, having read that, what are ways you can screen for loyalty? Also, if you have a history of women being deceptive, there are books you can read like You Can't Lie To Me by Janine Driver (I helped her test her body language book but not the d…
/r/seduction11/06/16 04:47 PM
1

Read the sidebar help on shit tests.
/r/seduction11/06/16 04:31 PM
4

One signal like this (hair toss) doesn't tell you much. You are looking for a group (cluster of several IOIs) so that it isn't just that her neck itches or it's windy or something. Sometimes they are doing a hair toss on purpose with eye contact though.
/r/seduction11/06/16 04:29 PM
4

read all the sidebar help. read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracey Cox. Amazon used has them cheap. You can also try You Say More Than You Think by J. Driver after those 2 if you want more body language help. I helped test that last book.
/r/seduction11/06/16 04:15 PM
1

What is "undesirable l change"? Read the sidebar help on approach anxiety.
/r/seduction11/06/16 03:46 AM
8

Maybe they aren't twisting it. Maybe it's how they feel. Learn to read body language better. I recommend the books, Superflirt and Superdate.
/r/seduction11/06/16 03:21 AM
1

The sidebar help. Then get Superflirt and Superdate for body language (3 cents plus $4 shipping each on Amazon used). Both are out of print.
/r/seduction10/06/16 03:24 PM
1

Ok, do that for 3 days and then try 10 minutes for 3 days. The next week, approach women you actually find attractive for 3 days. Then approach attractive women and flirt for 3 days.
/r/seduction10/06/16 03:23 PM
1

Read all the sidebar help. And read the beginner's board, /r/askseddit. Also, instead of talking to them about kissing, actually kiss them. It's "Show me, don't tell me." And being friendly and nice is good. You also want to have a backbone, be assertive, and physically escalate.
/r/seduction10/06/16 02:34 PM
3

Cold approach like crazy and always go for the girl you want immediately. Be clear in your intent.
/r/seduction10/06/16 01:29 PM
1

You'd be surprised. I've met handsome guys who have debilitating AA so can't pull hot women, and yes, they care.
/r/seduction10/06/16 01:18 PM
1

Who?
/r/seduction10/06/16 01:09 AM
1

The man leads, so the man approaches and asks her out. Hot women are approached all day, so if she is resorting to asking you out...she probably isn't the woman men generally want for whatever reason (this could be looks, age, has kids, etc.). Internet dating often works that way too. Remember, if you don't approach her and ask her out, many other men will.
/r/seduction09/06/16 03:53 PM
3

It's a combination of outer game (looks, body language, dress style), inner game, and game (approach and attraction/rapport). If a component of one of those categories is weak, you can probably compensate if the others are strong. Plus, there are degrees of things, so 25 lbs overweight (like me) isn't as bad as 75 lbs or 150 lbs overweight and 5'6 (like me) isn't as bad as 5'3 or 5'0. I know plenty of guys who aren't hot who can pull (including myself). And plenty of hot guys who cannot pull wom…
/r/seduction09/06/16 03:48 PM
1

Read Superflirt and Superdate by Tracy Cox.
/r/seduction08/06/16 08:05 PM
7

Ask you girlfriend for pointers. She knows her better. ;)
/r/seduction08/06/16 05:01 PM
1

Many of the guys who are VERY good with women do not make out with women when they go out to bars on an initial meeting--although if they get them home that night, they do. So, it isn't necessarily an indicator of success.. Stop comparing women getting men to men getting women. Women get pursued all day while women do the pursuing. Not apples to apples. I know many men who are successful for different reasons but what they have in common is strong inner game (including confidence), being clear i…
/r/seduction07/06/16 06:40 PM
12

Sometimes you can save the date. I had a date where she brought a friend so i had to as well, and she didn't give one single IOI....until the end of the date...and she wound up dating me. Granted she was shy but I kept running game until she decided she was interested. Also, sometimes women give mixed signals as a seduction style but men pay more attention to the negative ones. I wouldn't have bailed based on her sticking out her hand or saying she had plans later. It might have been savable....…
/r/seduction07/06/16 12:56 AM
2

I almost said the same thing but seems like they are underage.
/r/seduction06/06/16 03:14 PM
2

A shit test is a positive thing. It means they like you and want to see if you are real and/or can handle them. Read the sidebar help on shit tests.
/r/seduction06/06/16 12:58 AM
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You would be better off moving on right now. If you have oneitis, cut it altogether and approach new women. Otherwise, just approach new women. The "unzoned" thing is a waste of of 1 or 2 years of your life...again, find new women to date. Kino as a friend zone escape route? You mean, actually kiss her, right? You can try it. Be willing to lose the friendship (and to be clear that just friends is no longer an option).
/r/seduction05/06/16 10:27 PM
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You mean "wouldn't"?
/r/seduction05/06/16 10:21 PM
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I know black guys (American, which does make a difference there) who have done well in the Philippines, but it's probably the exception.
/r/seduction05/06/16 10:04 PM
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You don't have to open direct but your game should be direct, AKA be clear in your intent.
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:45 PM
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You keep initiating since real men are confident and lead. In being the confident guy that can be social, talk to everyone, approach anyone, is a leader of men and is liked by other women (you have social proof, leadership, preselection, confidence) , you become more more attractive, and people may approach you. That said, most of the women who approach...may not be the ones you want...since hot women generally don't need to approach.
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:44 PM
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It's because work is more of a warm approcoach or they are approaching you. Read all the sidebar help including "approach anxiety."
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:39 PM
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Daygame is usually done alone so try that. You can do bars too, and but I recommend becoming friendly with the staff so you have the built in social proof of a regular BUT you can do it cold too. Read all the sidebar help. Open 10 women a day for a month and let us know how it is going.
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:38 PM
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A lot of the guys I know who have fetishes, just go for sexually adventurous women and once they are already sleeping with them, lead them towards whatever the fetish is. Approach like crazy and screen the women for sexual adventurousness. You can talk to them about their fantasies and wildest things they've done. Some women will straight out tell you that they are open for anything and some are more skittish about things.
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:35 PM
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Where is the conversation that goes in between the "hi" and asking for a #? Plus, if you are going t do a "run down," you might as well just open direct ("I saw you and I had to meet you" is an example). And one of that "excuse me" or "I know this is random" stuff.
/r/seduction04/06/16 09:51 PM
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I'm ideal lover, but not through smoke and mirrors. :) i approach indirectly but my GAME is not indirect. Once we've talked a bit and they are responding well, I use a statement of intent of some form or other. You have already approached this woman. She needs to know your intent is.
/r/seduction04/06/16 09:23 PM
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Have you tried https://fetlife.com/?
/r/seduction04/06/16 09:02 PM
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AOS says to be indirect? really? The people I know who use AOS and are successful (including myself) embody a type and are clear in their intent. Being clear in your intent is important to seduction. The rakes (I'm not one) are especially clear in their intent. The fact that she asked "as friends" probably means that is how she sees you...
/r/seduction04/06/16 08:36 PM
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You don't. You want to be in a relationship with someone who wants to be in one (and to be in one with you).
/r/seduction04/06/16 08:29 PM
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What country were you in?
/r/seduction04/06/16 08:27 PM
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It is when you let her believe you are interested in her (that she has a chance with you) when you are not (and she does not).
/r/seduction04/06/16 07:26 PM
1

You mean like races/ethnicities? Contempt is a bad thing and can sometimes be read via facial expressions.
/r/seduction04/06/16 04:57 PM
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Throwing a few lines at someone is not the same as having a conversation. Read the sidebar help.
/r/seduction04/06/16 04:55 PM
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Read all the sidebar help including the help on approach anxiety. also, read the posting guidelines at the top because "how do I approach" belongs in the beginner board, /r/askseddit, so the admins may delete your actual text (they don't delete the thread).
/r/seduction04/06/16 02:21 PM
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Read all the sidebar help and the posting guidelines (top post in the list). Also, /r/askseddit is the beginner's board. Do some searches on how to avoid the friendzone.
/r/seduction03/06/16 05:47 PM
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Direct openers work better when you are already getting IOIs. I like indirect playful (like opening on banter) better because it allows me to open with humor (which women respond well to) but both approaches work. I wrote about this here: http://www.daygamer.net/2014/12/07/when-and-how-to-open-direct-day-or-night-game/ Oh, and read all the sidebar help.
/r/seduction03/06/16 04:48 PM
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Use them as wings or to set you up with friends. In general, it is easier to get with women when you meet them initially -- because it gives you a chance to be clear in your intent and escalate right from the beginning. Once you are in the friendzone, it can be more difficult.
/r/seduction03/06/16 04:38 PM
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Read the sidebar help on texting.
/r/seduction03/06/16 03:49 AM
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What could girl #1 have heard about you? Oh, that you've slept with a lot of women and are casual? 3 women is not a terrible string. So, you want casual. Seems like that's not what these women wanted. (One said so, one backed off when you told her to come over, and one backed off saying the equivalent of you'd hurt her, she isn't that you are looking for and that she'd heard about you). You are not screening the women to see if they match your goals. I wrote abut this here: http://www.daygamer.n…
/r/seduction02/06/16 06:50 PM
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If you are on your way out...keep talking to them as you exit the building. Always flirt with them even if you don't have the time to get the # but I've gotten #s in 2 minutes many times. Then when you see them again, they know you and you can get the #. Approach outside your building with the dog. You can talk to them there or enter together.
/r/seduction02/06/16 04:48 PM
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Contact RSD directly, and ask them what it takes to become an assistant. And, if they aren't in your area, you'll have to go to them.
/r/seduction02/06/16 01:28 AM
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No. And, common courtesy means that you are polite in how you decline.
/r/seduction02/06/16 01:14 AM
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When you post without enough context to show otherwise, it looks to us like a shit test. :)
/r/seduction02/06/16 12:26 AM
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Read the sidebar help for shit tests.
/r/seduction01/06/16 05:44 AM
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Depends on the woman. Ditch the self limiting belief and go ask her out.
/r/seduction01/06/16 01:38 AM
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I flirt with hired guns (employees) often but I wouldn't ask for one's # in front of her boss. I've given my specially made (identity based) business card to employees in front of other customers, but not the boss. If the boss isn't there, you ca have her write her info on a receipt or store business card. You can go back another time and flirt with her if her boss isn't there.
/r/seduction31/05/16 09:32 PM
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It could mean all kinds of conflicting things (isn't feeling it, already had plans but wanted to meet you too, expects first meetings to be short, is busy, etc) so I wouldn't worry about guessing correctly now. If the date goes well, ask her out again (preferably while on the date). Don't call her out on it; that is too reactive.
/r/seduction31/05/16 06:55 PM
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How many women have you approached in the last month? How many #s did you get from these approaches? How did you follow up with them get get dates? Also, read Superflirt and Superdate to read their body language better to know how you are doing. Try setting up the date on the original approach. Then you will get the # for logistics purpose. It's an anti-flake technique.
/r/seduction31/05/16 03:54 AM
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That text is too harsh in many ways. It says we are talking about you so don't trust any of us and the end part shows you don't give a shit about her. Yeah, you tried to leave it open but you put the ball in her court meaning ... you are not a leader (like men should be) and/or you aren't interested enough to pursue her. Plus, you don't understand what she probably meant (look below). The thing with mixed signals is...there are different kinds of mixed signals. Some women and men SUDUCE via mixe…
/r/seduction31/05/16 02:39 AM
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Being clear in your intent is important, but is something you ideally do in person and very early on.
/r/seduction31/05/16 12:52 AM
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Tell people here what city you are in. And if your city has a lair (miami, San diego, DC, Portland, NYC, Vegas, Philly, etc.), post there looking for a wingman.
/r/seduction31/05/16 12:49 AM
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I wrote an article about gym pickup here: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/01/01/how-to-meet-women-at-the-gym/
/r/seduction30/05/16 11:27 PM
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5'6. Oh, you have a self-limiting belief about ethnicity. Ditch the self-limiting beliefs. Right, but I started in game doing 6 infield sessions a week for 2 years and at the beginning had some coaching so I put A LOT of work into my game.
/r/seduction30/05/16 06:01 PM
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Focus on the ones you are attracted to, whether short or tall. I've dated up to 9 inches shorter and 5 inches taller. Just be prepared for shit tests -- read all the sidebar help including the link on shit tests. Deal with your self limited beliefs about height and emasculation. And this is without lifts, tailored-clothes, a full head of hair, fit body or even being young. It's approach, outer game, confidence (inner game), and solid game. And please don't respond to my comment with excuses or s…
/r/seduction30/05/16 02:59 AM
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No idea since I'm not a moderator. I know that questions about a specific woman go to the beginner board though.
/r/seduction30/05/16 02:11 AM
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OH, I get it, you don't mean what the community would calle experienced. You just want to improve. Try 5 sets (groups of whatever size, even a woman alone) a day for the first week and then increase it to 10. Try 4-5 days a week. I said to read all the sidebar help but read the part on approach anxiety twice. :)
/r/seduction30/05/16 01:42 AM
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Read the sidebar help. BTW, the beginner's board is /r/askseddit. 2 months seems a pretty short timeframe. How do you define "experienced"? How will you know when you are experienced? How many days a week will you be approaching and how many women will you talk to a day?
/r/seduction30/05/16 01:25 AM
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Research your area to see where busy events, art venues, coffeehouses, happy hours, campuses, etc, are. Research costs as well, since it sounds like an issue. Say what city it is Maybe someone here knows it (I don't). Read all the sidebar help. Twice. approach 10 groups of women a day (or women alone), 5 days a week, for one year. Don't respond to thismessage with self limiting beliefs or excuses.
/r/seduction29/05/16 11:31 PM
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Find a way to get better pictures. You can stop people you don't know and have them take a pic in front of something interesting (you're in London!). In a restaurant ask waiter to take pic with a cool dish. Or a hire a photographer to take pics outside so they look natural--you can afford it. Basically, find a solution so that you have better pics. Please don't respond to this with excuses or self-limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction29/05/16 10:55 PM
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Admins deleted the original question because it was about a specific woman so was in the wrong sub. Scroll up and look for the original question.
/r/seduction29/05/16 04:37 PM
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Read alk the sidebar help, including approach anxiety. Work on your self-limiting beliefs (if you think you are creepy, you are). Work on better openers.
/r/seduction28/05/16 01:24 PM
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Yes, I've dated up to 9 inches shorter and 5 inches taller. Yes, a hot woman is a hot woman, regardless of height. The tallest one was also 14 years younger.
/r/seduction28/05/16 01:22 PM
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This is not the sub for advice about a particular girl. /r/askseddit, the beginner's board is. That is why they removed your original post I bet.
/r/seduction28/05/16 01:19 PM
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I'm talking about you approaching new women and asking them out then and there. :) Abundance mentality!
/r/seduction28/05/16 03:46 AM
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Resilient? I don't understand what you are asking for help with. Also, "creep or a perv (and God forbid, a rapist)" are self-limiting beliefs. If you think you are creepy, you are.
/r/seduction28/05/16 12:42 AM
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The way to find out is to ask her out when the interaction is happening. After the fact, we weren't there to read her body language and see and hear her. In the future, ask the woman out then and there. If you need help, read Superflirt and Superdate for body language reading help.
/r/seduction28/05/16 12:38 AM
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Have they already sent you a bunch of IOIs (you know they already like you)?
/r/seduction28/05/16 12:24 AM
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What is the context? A girlfriend? A woman you just met in a bar?
/r/seduction27/05/16 09:41 PM
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Funny, I got positive reactions even when they mentioned the show. Maybe you were watching the wrong guy. Right, you have self-limiting beliefs; we covered that. I asked you not to respond with excuses or self-limiting beliefs. It sounds like you don't actually enjoy interacting with women, hence you seeing it as pretending. :)
/r/seduction27/05/16 05:52 PM
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Nope. Closest was when the PUA TV Show was on VH1 in 2007-8 but that was more about the fact that we were opening in bars than about specific moves. Hi5s are not specific to pickup, ask you don't ASK for them anyway. You stick you hand up and she high fives you, in context. If you think something is fake, for you, it is, even if it works for everyone else....that is called a self-limiting belief. Now go out and get 5 hi5s a day from hot women on cold approaches for 6 moths and let us know how it…
/r/seduction27/05/16 04:39 PM
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The typo on his about page where he (Chris) calls himself Christ....may be something to let him know about. "Christ believes that creating a life that truly makes one happy is every man's ultimate purpose. "
/r/seduction27/05/16 02:47 PM
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read all the side bar help. Flirting is part of seduction.
/r/seduction27/05/16 03:05 AM
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What coach or book in the community is pushing low energy? Generally, you are supposed to be at least somewhat higher energy than the women you flirting with.
/r/seduction26/05/16 04:30 AM
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We don't know what city you are located in. Research your city's venues and events.
/r/seduction26/05/16 04:16 AM
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How old are the women? I routinely date women 10 years younger than myself. Read all the sidebar help. Work on your game. Approach tons of women, often.
/r/seduction26/05/16 04:03 AM
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Whether or not he is, you have a problem, because you feel like he is cheating on you. So, either way, your relationship is in jeopardy. Look into books on detecting deception such as You Can't Lie To Me by Janine Driver. There are plenty of others. Hire a Private investigator You are off topic, so try subs such as the ones Matarky1 recommended.
/r/seduction26/05/16 12:22 AM
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" I think most would agree there is at least a 95% chance that she said hello for friendly reasons only, not because I looked good." drop the self limiting beliefs. Who cares what other people (most) would agree about her approach? She said hi to you...stop making excuses for why. She was trying to talk to you. Your responses help women decide whether they are attracted to you or not (it's not all visual with women). Identity and common interests (gardening and food) are at play here too. You do…
/r/seduction25/05/16 07:46 PM
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Your answers back me up (as being location specific). OP should research his home city or at least tell him what city.
/r/seduction25/05/16 07:40 PM
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Depends on where you live. Some college campuses are better than others (some suck). Same for malls, festivals/events (Friday night Jazz at Smithsonian is great in DC in season), coffeehouses, parks (Central Park in NYC for instance is great), bars, gyms (Brian is right about Climbing gyms but some classes in gyms are stacked with hot women too), etc. The wine n paint classes tend to be stacked with women too. I recommend researching the city you live in. If you still have questions, you can tel…
/r/seduction25/05/16 07:39 PM
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Oh, 5 foot 5 and a half, got it. It's about confidence, assertiveness, and being clear in your intent. Work on getting tight game -- and if you don't know what I mean, read the sidebar help. I'm 5'6, am older, heavy and balding, and do fine.
/r/seduction25/05/16 01:31 AM
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Be assertive, confident, and clear in your intent, and escalate women and you will do fine. Please do not respond with excuses or self limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction24/05/16 06:18 AM
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You don't need this. Use texts to setup dates. Use game in person and escalate the women.
/r/seduction24/05/16 05:59 AM
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That does work, especially with bartenders and waitresses. I've had some store employees do it too.
/r/seduction24/05/16 04:01 AM
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Not a shit test. They do shit tests when they like you and want to see if you are real. In this case, she isn't interested, or she'd make time to see you.
/r/seduction24/05/16 03:41 AM
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Run a lot of attraction: Tease and banter, kino, roleplay, future project, etc. If you are fun, they shouldn't feel uncomfortable or cornered. How do you plan on asking for a number?
/r/seduction24/05/16 03:38 AM
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Do it all: Strand, B&N (if it's still there), the park, etc. Strand is probably the weakest of the three but I do all three. See if there are coffeehouses around there too.
/r/seduction24/05/16 03:31 AM
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Read Mode One, a book about being clear in your intent AKA direct. I also wrote about this, but not in nearly as much depth but I talk about screening as well: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction23/05/16 05:40 PM
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Funny, that wasn't the response I expected. I figured someone would ask which type. :)
/r/seduction23/05/16 04:42 PM
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Yeah, if Strand and B&N are still at union square, hit them too.
/r/seduction23/05/16 03:10 PM
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The point of the book is to be more direct and clear in your intent, so I recommend it to clients who need that type of improvement and it really does help them. They get friendzoned less for one thing. I've never been to Japan so can't help you there. Being clear in my intent has made all the difference for me (in getting GFs) in recent years.
/r/seduction23/05/16 02:52 PM
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I'm not in NYC anymore but you are in a great daygame city. Central Park is especially strong. Street game, Union Square Park (and the bookstores there, if they are still there) are good too. It's city where people talk to people all the time, and growing up there prepared me to specialize in daygame later on. Have you tried searching the sub for other NYC posts? Your question is asked often. I think it's usually asked for night game though. You don't really need a wing for most daygame approach…
/r/seduction23/05/16 02:48 PM
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Read Superflirt and Superdate to better read her body language and you will better know how you are doing on the date and maybe even adjust during it.
/r/seduction23/05/16 02:36 PM
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I wrote an article on screening women for serious vs casual. Sounds like you need to read it. http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction22/05/16 08:45 PM
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AOS i the best seduction book I've read. It's really good. And, anyone I personally know who uses my particular seduction type is damn strong, even if they aren't in game.
/r/seduction22/05/16 08:43 PM
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"Just tonight I was rejected once again as we were saying goodbye and she said "don't rush things".. I played it off with a smile and we hugged it out. Then she text me saying she's sorry she wasn't in the right mindset and needed a bit of space but she had fun blah blah blah. Have deleted her number because I can feel the LJBF coming on." That is not a rejection because it is not a "no" but a "not yet." So, no, she probably wasn't LJBF'ing you. Some women are interested and will let you escalat…
/r/seduction22/05/16 12:40 AM
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I probably wouldn't be taking #s in front of employees, bosses, other customers, etc., but that doesn't mean it's 100% off the table if you don't need the job or it is considered ok to date customers. I do game women who are at their jobs (I'm the customer). You could tell her where (bar, seeing band, etc) you are going to be later in the evening, and see if she joins you. If you have a cool website (I might), so could mention it and see if she contacts you that way.
/r/seduction22/05/16 12:07 AM
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Try Art of Seduction by Robert Greene, who also has a book on war and one on power.
/r/seduction21/05/16 11:58 PM
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You said she turned you down, so I'd let it go. I know you didn't know your friends were targeting her already -- difficult situation. Sounds like for a variety of reasons that you should go outside the group and approach new women.
/r/seduction21/05/16 11:52 PM
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Read the sidebar help.
/r/seduction21/05/16 01:53 AM
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It was about her asking me a question and getting a response that she did not have the life experience to handle (so she got freaked out and didn't see me again). 5 years later, she had the life experience.
/r/seduction20/05/16 08:59 PM
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I had a woman send me an apology letter 5 years later explaining why she didn't see me again. Asking why they are ending things with you can be seen as needy (which is basically what she was saying to you). If they flake ]on actual scheduled dates do to career (and not being sick), I usually just move on. Some women's lives aren't really set up to date. Yes, you should be clear in your intent and escalating from the beginning. Read the books Superflirt and Superdate to better get body language c…
/r/seduction20/05/16 07:51 PM
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At a distance? no. Actually, try sitting next to her perpendicular for easier kino (side to side kino is great) and often makes women feel like they dating someone. Or across from her at a small table (better for eye contact and you can still kino). I wrote about Budget dating ideas in DC here in 2012 (maybe some of it is transferable): http://www.daygamer.net/2012/03/18/budget-date-planning-101/
/r/seduction20/05/16 07:17 PM
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You're one million, two hundred and forty......three.
/r/seduction19/05/16 09:11 PM
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I agree.
/r/seduction19/05/16 08:10 PM
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You've already posted about looking ugly (including your pic). We told you then that you aren't ugly and to work on your inner game (confidence, self-limiting beliefs, self-image, etc.).
/r/seduction19/05/16 06:33 PM
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Approach the group. You could also get a wing to help. And read the sidebar help. Please don't respond with excuses or self-limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction19/05/16 06:30 PM
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Join clubs, talk to people in class, approach all over the campus (including the grounds, bookstore, cafe, cafeteria library, etc.) "I am about to transfer from my local community college to a university (Stony Brook) notorious for its lackluster social scene and a student body very focused on studying. " That is awesome. So, these women in the frozen north are stressed and yearning for sexual release! It's a commuter school, so search for the popular off campus coffeehouses and bars. The bottom…
/r/seduction19/05/16 04:01 PM
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when i talk about Statement of Intent (SOI), I am talking about the Juggler (Wayne Elise) concept...look it up because it is powerful. No idea what a Statement of Interest is...sounds like an IOI, which would make them different. Maybe people are just confusing the acronym...
/r/seduction19/05/16 03:50 PM
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they can be different. what you are talking about is talked about in the Mystery model. look it up. i screen heavily, so women qualify themselves to me.
/r/seduction19/05/16 03:43 PM
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Yeah, food and travel are easy interests to cultivate as well.
/r/seduction19/05/16 05:05 AM
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This has to do with what city you live in, what is available there, and what you and she are into. Are you located in Washington, DC?
/r/seduction19/05/16 05:01 AM
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What do you want them to qualify themselves about? In other words, what are you screening for?
/r/seduction19/05/16 04:48 AM
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You can't read this without giving email address, and when I did, it didn't send the confirm link.
/r/seduction18/05/16 05:55 PM
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Yes, you will. Even if you don't say it, you'll probably lose the opportunity if you don't take it.
/r/seduction18/05/16 05:52 PM
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I'm less outgoing with women I am not attracted to who are into me. I don't want to lead them on.
/r/seduction18/05/16 04:12 PM
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I plan inexpensive (see below) or free (museum, zoo, hike, music in the park, etc) first dates so that me covering them is not an issue. Trying taking them for drinks (happy hour) or coffee...and if things are going well, then bounce them for apps or dinner or home. This way you aren't locked into an expensive dinner and a long amount of time with a woman you may not be getting along with that well. Also, read the sidebar help.
/r/seduction18/05/16 04:02 PM
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She doesn't want you. Move on. Approach 10 new women a day for 2 years and let us know how it goes.
/r/seduction18/05/16 03:58 PM
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I agree with you and not with BoberJr. :) I just responded to the OP along these (your) lines.
/r/seduction18/05/16 03:57 PM
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You need to be clear in your intent from the beginning (especially prior to sex) and screen them for the same goals. So, if you are casual but act serious, you will be deceptive and hurt the serious women. Read my article about this: http://www.daygamer.net/2012/07/06/how-to-get-the-right-girlguy-communication-skills-101/
/r/seduction18/05/16 03:56 PM
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