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What I’m curious about is, if you’re irrevocably attracted to men, is there a cutoff? Do men of a certain age just reach a point where they are no longer appealing? It depends on the men, but I guess that’s how it works for most people? I think most men who are attracted to women have seen very old women who they still find attractive. Is it the majority? No. But they exist. Within reason, of course. I do have same-sex attractions, but I am far more picky when it comes to men than women. I feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:56 PM
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No, I definitely get that. That makes sense. But I’m not referring to this specifically, I’m talking more about content like the one that is produced by the likes of “Blacked”, where the whole screen is filled with muscular guys. So many that they overshadow the female performers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:29 PM
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Ya, it’s honestly a mystery to me, but dudes are definitely WAY more secretive about it. I’m surprised you haven’t had your share of run-ins with married straight dudes looking for anon hookups, lol. I did. And I can be good, though you obviously need to be mindful when navigating and adapting to the preferences of each one, which can vary a lot. If you want a purely sexual thing, it can be a very good experience. If you want a more intimate one, it’ll depend on the person. And by “intimate” I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:22 PM
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Well, yes, but don’t you think it’s weird how so much of the pornography consumed by straight men focus so much on men? Like I said in a comment above, I am capable of finding straight sex hot as a gay man, but some of the things straight men like would be excessive for me (in the inverse way, I mean). In some of the videos all you can see are male buttholes, balls and dicks. You barely see the female performer. It’s almost as if you’re watching a straight porn aimed at gay men. It amazes me tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:36 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Sexuality is not so set in stone. Sure, the “everyone is bisexual” crowd exaggerates, but so do those who think that a man who has sex with other man is invariably gay/bisexual. Especially because many of them wouldn’t be so quick to label a woman experiment with another woman. I don’t fully understand my own sexuality, for example. I’m 100% and irrevocably attracted to men, but I’m not incapable of finding women attractive if I watch the way a man touches her breasts, her lips, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:22 PM
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I’m genuinely shocked as a gay man at how homoerotic straight men can be, both in their relationships and the content they consume. Like, theoretically I could find a video of a guy having sex with 10 women hot if I focused on his pleasure and his attractiveness, but it certainly wouldn’t be something I watch often enough for an entire pornographic genre to be created around it, because it would have so much pussy and tits that it would overshadow the guy. I have a hard time imagining myself sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:22 PM
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One thing that I’ve noticed is that rivalry between men can be much more subtle than people give credit. There’s this idea that women are subtle in their power dynamics, being excessively friendly with their rivals, but bitchy behind their backs, whereas men are more upfront in their relationships. It’s certainly true for many groups, but I noticed that in many of these female groups with mean girls dynamics, they’re all aware of the tension that exists, they just choose keep interacting with pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:19 PM
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You’re welcome. Really eye opening stuff and no one talks about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 02:00 PM
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to the point anti-feminism became not just a criticism of the more radical and extreme actors of feminism, but of the entirety of the feminist movement altogether. And? What exactly is wrong with that? This very comment shows why anti-feminism is necessary to bring balance. Feminists believe their movement is above criticism. You’re allowed to criticize certain portions of it (but be careful not to exaggerate, specially if you’re not a woman), but not to abandon it completely and choose other fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:48 PM
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I think the part that I disagree with is that even though this dynamic was always pretty uneven (in the sense that men were always socialized to put women in a pedestal more than the other way around, even by giving up their life if need be), it used to be less one-sided. Or at least there used to exist a notion that women too had a role to play in such bargain. He provided for her and guaranteed her physical integrity was protected (even at the cost of his own life), she guaranteed his life was…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:56 PM
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But I also defend your right to have shelters where they are not included, though I don’t think that’d be as controversial to the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/23 09:54 AM
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Hmm, good to know. It was really weird.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 04:27 PM
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Hmm, that’s weird. I was experiencing some serious instability. Anyway, I’m just going to refrain from making further comments on the topic. At least for a while, as it’s a touchy subject for reddit admins, no matter how nuanced you try to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 03:44 PM
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Hello. Can you read my comment? I think I’ve been shadowbanned from the site.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 03:38 PM
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Hello. Can you read my comment? I think I’ve been shadowbanned from the site.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 03:36 PM
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And, the idea that it's ok to pain all men as dangerous because of the actions of a few is bigotry. Absolutely. But what do we do about people who have traumas? Simply pretend they don’t exist? Because that’s what such narrative is proposing. Doesn’t this sub also acknowledge that sometimes men can have traumas related to their experiences with women? I definitely don’t think having traumas with people from a certain gender entitles you to be a bigot, unlike feminists often do. But in the contex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 02:21 PM
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Our point is that everyone should have equal supports. We care about men getting the help they are sorely lacking, we care about women perpetrators being erased or treated as victims. I agree with these points, but they’re not mutually exclusive with sex-segregated shelters. And I don’t think I’m misreading the room. I have noticed opposition to sex-segregated shelters by some members of the sub here or on other subs. I’ve seen some who believe shelters shouldn’t segregate by gender as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 02:14 PM
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That’s actually an oversimplification that only gives power to the narrative of radical feminists, because while many people don’t agree with all of their points, they agree with one of their main premises: there are differences between cis and trans. Which is true, even though they use this truth to promote a bigoted agenda. But as long we keep denying that, we’ll be giving power to radical feminism by allowing them to wear their mantle of martyrs of truth. Should we insist in this route, trans…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 01:38 PM
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I’m not against the existence of shelters for cis women only. That’s where I differ from this sub, as my impression is that the general consensus here is that there should be no segregation in ANY shelter. While I’m not against the existence of gender neutral shelters, I don’t think it’s wrong to have options that are only for cis members of a gender. In fact, as much as I dislike JK, I believe calling someone transphobic just because they believe some places should be reserved for cis people is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 01:14 PM
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I will probably just get a vasectomy and a dog as companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:37 PM
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Remember that when they say men should be more involved and passionate about women’s rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/23 07:18 PM
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When it comes to social movements, the discussions are always extremely US-centric. It doesn’t help that the instances of institutional discrimination experienced by American men aren’t so obvious as they are in other countries. You have to register for selective service, but unlike the one in countries like South Korea and Finland, men don’t have to perform mandatory service, it’s a “just in case scenario”. Law enforcement and court bias when it comes to DV, sexual assault and custody is a real…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/23 12:22 PM
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I mean, have you taken a look at most professionals and the things they stand for, the way so many undergraduates behave, etc? If you’re a guy, you should be extra careful with the person you’re choosing to provide mental healthcare. Do you honestly believe a person who is socialized to see men as a threat and hyperagentic beings who have much more autonomy/privileges than women is capable of providing the best service you can get? A profession whose guidelines not long ago literally referred to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:37 PM
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No, sweetie. I'm just being honest. I'm a psychologist. I know these things Just goes to show the current state of the field and why men should be careful when choosing their therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:10 PM
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I love how you guys create this image on your minds where men who are attractive, successful and well-endowed are a superior species and that all the things you dislike are created by guys with small dicks. And still, not only do “attractive, well-endowed and successful” guys choose women who have a lower body count than they do to date, but they also often display every other behaviors you guys advocate against, because they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:39 PM
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This kinda makes it sound less like "innate preference" and more petty reactionaryism. It does kinda sound like these dudes just saying "If women acted like men and pursued me and gave me validation the way men give it to women, I wouldn't have a problem with them having sex with men"? Nah. Men who are desired and get lots of validation from women still separate them between “one night stand material” and “relationship material”. The degree of slutshaming promoted by them varies, but that they’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:26 PM
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There was a thread about the Korean hostility towards feminism on r/worldnews. I was (positively) surprised with some of the answers, including the most upvoted one. Sadly, it got deleted. Not sure if it was moderation bias or rules I’m not aware of. Link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/22 10:05 AM
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What do they expect? They're taking away our reproductive freedoms. Many women don't want to risk that because it's not worth it just to end up most likely disappointed anyways. As someone who is not attracted to women, it’s just baffling how so many feminists seem to believe sex only comes with risks to women and women alone. I can’t fathom how so many straight men are willing to have unprotected sex, as that puts you in a completely vulnerable position where you need to believe your partner is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/22 11:38 PM
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Severity of physical violent outcomes in domestic situations is on average more severe for women than men. That should definitely be acknowledged and dealt with appropriately. Men need to really be aware of their capacity to do harm and learn to be more in control of themselves because of this risk, especially physically. I mean, they are? In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women are the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. That shows that there’s a great deal of guys exercising re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 02:24 AM
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Abortion is legal up to the 12th week. They have a high abortion rate since the Soviet Union. In fact, the highest in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/22 02:51 PM
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This news hit the frontpage last week and it’s honestly so dreadful that I didn’t even bother opening the thread, because the world is so fucked up I’m sure there would be plenty of people supporting it, if not the majority. It’s not only another case where men are harmed by the choices of those who hold institutional power, it’s also about average citizens putting the life of these men on the line by their own choice and possibly sentencing them to death or mutilation. That makes it much more f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/22 01:14 AM
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I’d go even further and say we shouldn’t equate IPV and sexual violence to misogyny/misandry as often as we do. There’s often an overlap between them, but it’s also possible for a perpetrator to harm someone without necessarily being specifically hateful of their victim’s gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 09:49 AM
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Gender-based violence sure is one of the most stupid terms they managed to popularize, at least in the context it’s often used.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 09:42 AM
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I’m not saying he is right, but I think his beliefs stem from the fact that there is a gender gap when it comes to support to censorship that seems to manifest itself in several fields, like women being more likely than men to believe that protecting free speech is less important than promoting an inclusive society, women being more supportive of illegalizing insults to minorities or believing that it’s more acceptable to shout down a speaker in certain situations. I wouldn’t necessarily say thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:05 PM
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Despite DEI being important in the real sense of the words, the truth is more important when it comes to the work of universities. We can't sacrifice the truth of university in the name of another goal, no matter how noble. I don’t think there’s a distinction between “beliefs” and “truth” to them. I like to think my beliefs about how society is organized are merely the lenses I found most appropriate to interpret the events around me. There’s the very real possibility I’m wrong, because it’s har…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 02:22 PM
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I think veganism is an extremely valid lifestyle/philosophy and maybe the only position adopted by progressive forces that actually goes against the status quo (as opposed to only posing against the status quo when they’re perfectly non-controversial, like feminism) and that requires changes in your lifestyle, not only being a keyboard warrior. I was a vegan for many years myself, though I’m not anymore for reasons unrelated to health or meat/dairy craving. It’s just really a shame the movement …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/22 01:21 PM
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Sad that this won’t get any traction or hit the frontpage, unlike protests in Iran or news about abortion (that are as prominent now as they were when Roe V Wade was overturned).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 12:49 PM
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In the rare instances it does benefit men, it happens as a byproduct of policies meant to help women. Like groups with lobbying power and concerned about female bodily autonomy managing to lower the standards for sterilization for both men and women in certain places or higher paternity leave for men with the intention of lowering women’s burden at home and reduce hiring discrimination against women. They won’t really go out of their way to advocate for causes that only or mostly affect men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 09:13 PM
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I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. Not wanting to break a vow with sex is him not wanting sex. No, it isn’t? I feel like that’s trivializing the word rape the same way feminists do. He wanted to have sex, but was reticent because it meant breaking his vows. If you’re in a relationship and another person invites you to have sex, does thinking twice before agreeing means you got raped? Does thinking twice before having sex as a priest/nun who made chastity vows means you got raped even if you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 07:57 PM
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House of the Dragon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 11:13 AM
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I don’t really think we could call that rape, but worth mentioning that: 1 - People would problematize a male character stealing a kiss from a female one, which is of course a double standard. 2 - I guess it largely depends on your worldview. Reddit seems to believe that it’s immoral for a man in position of power to sleep with a female subordinate, so I can definitely call them out on their hypocrisy here, because Criston Cole is Rhaenyra’s subordinate too. Personally, I believe things are more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 11:12 AM
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I think she’s trying to say that men and women experience sexuality differently. That while men enjoy things like sexy clothes and a more visual kind of sexiness, women have other preferences. I think it’s a bit more complicated than that, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 09:54 AM
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It’s certainly a stark contrast to how understanding Redditors can be to women who are distressed over the whole Roe v. Wade situation. I’ve seen a post reach the frontpage where OP mentioned that his wife refused to have sex with him after the overturn. He was obviously frustrated, but many of the comments berated him for not understanding his wife’s side. In another one, a young woman wrote in her tinder bio that she wasn’t available until abortion was back on the menu. Those who mentioned she…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 09:14 PM
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It certainly doesn’t sound too far-fetched for India. What many people from developed countries fail to grasp it that while developing nations may indeed be plagued by several problems, identify politics can usually manifest itself in much more tangible ways than it usually does in first world countries. And when it comes to India in particular, they seem to have the craziest affirmative action policies in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:49 AM
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Quite the opposite. I think it's liberating, because men finally start to understand they're not "the ugly sex". I don't mean it (only) because I'm gay, but also because the idea of male body being functional and strong but unattractive is quite closely tied to male disposability. I don’t see how that could possibly be true when the kind of male bodies shown in entertainment have nothing to do with the bodies you see everyday, even if we’re talking about fit men. Feminists have complained for ye…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 06:22 PM
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However, in the modern Western world, we seem to point this out, even when the group is legitimately suffering unfairness (e.g. most people condemned the BLM riots). Except, we don’t really do this with modern feminism. Because there’s no other movement where the groups claiming to be oppressed benefits from a positive bias coming from the other they claim to be their oppressors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 11:23 AM
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I made a similar post a while ago, as I’ve noticed this trend and was tired of people gaslighting me into believing I was crazy for suggesting that male nudity isn’t as rare as they say and that female nudity isn’t as common as it used to. To sum up my points, I think it has to do with: MeToo and writers/directors who either genuinely buy into the whole thing or are more scared to have nude scenes with actresses than they are with actors, given the current climate. Male nudity being seen as more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 11:13 AM
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Your opinions don’t seem to align with feminism, to be honest. It’s kinda hard to imagine what kind of disagreements you had with your SO without further context. Your opinions do not necessarily align with the men’s rights movement either, but they’re not so diametrically opposed that it warrants breaking up over it. Not that I think it’s reasonable to break up over political differences, mind you. I’m just trying to put myself in the shoes of someone who has a lower tolerance for partners that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/22 01:34 PM
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You can claim "these men are paid, though!" but it absolutely falls apart when you think about it even a little bit. But here’s the thing, just like these men take on these jobs because there’s a payment, you can also argue that women used to have children because they also had a vested interest in doing so. It wasn’t merely a sacrifice done out of the kindness of one’s heart, it was also a way of making sure you’d be provided for when you could no longer work, which was as interesting for women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 03:09 AM
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It was almost a natural law, she said, that the women and children should be saved first. The children because childhood is sacred, and the women because they are so necessary to the race that they cannot be spared. Yeah, I’m sure all those women past their fertile years were much more necessary to the continuity of our species than the young men left to freeze while they had a ticket out of a certain death for being the right gender. Women cheerfully starve for their husbands and children, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 05:35 PM
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There’s a survey from 2019 with some interesting results. A 50-year old man has recently admitted to you that he has had an affair outside of his 20-year marriage. He feels bad about his actions and is asking you for advice on what to do next. He explains that his marriage hasn’t been very fulfilling for several years. His spouse is very critical of him and they have not had sex for over a year. He feels unloved. However, for a random half of survey respondents, all the gender markers were chang…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 05:03 PM
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More like many of those who desired to be tops get scared away by the insane requirements to be one. I wouldn’t take his word at face value. It’s just his take on gay sexual market, not necessarily the truth. I still think it’s much easier to find sex as a gay man than a straight one, but that doesn’t change the fact that many guys who like to play the victim have insane requirements for tops. It’s a prison of their own making. Lots of horny guys out there. They could very well settle for non-co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:21 PM
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There are many ridiculous takes on that sub, but this has definitely been the most delusional thread I’ve seen there in a while. One of the comments say: If you want misogyny to die, then you need men to be self aware. They need be willing to put women’s (and trans and non-binary people’s) needs before theirs even when it means giving up power and privilege, and they need to be willing to do whatever it takes to unlearn misogyny and to dismantle the patriarchy That’s extremely hilarious when the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/22 04:25 PM
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I’d be ok with it being played for laughs or as a gratifying comeuppance for a bully if this whole thing wasn’t so one-sided. We know this wouldn’t fly if the genders were reversed, even more if the one getting revenge was a male character against a female one. I can think of very few productions where a male character brutalizes a female one as revenge for something she did. Something of that nature would be controversial even if it was a male protagonists beating the shit out of a female chara…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/22 02:45 PM
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In my opinion, even the generalizations on subs such as MensRights (which got considerably worse after receiving an influx of users from banned subs like MGTOW) are tame in comparison to the likes of fourthwavewomen, 2X, witchesvspatriarchy and FDS. If that wasn’t the case and they spoke about women the same way those subs speak about men, it would’ve been banned long ago. A few examples: https://np.reddit.com/r/everydaymisandry/comments/pybo66/theres_nothing_feminist_about_breeding_boys/?utm_so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/22 11:37 AM
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It really feels like there’s a bigger concern about being right than being helpful. Let’s pretend for a moment that it’s exactly like they say, that these terms aren’t malicious and that they don’t put the blame on masculinity, that they don’t use them in a motte-and-bailey fashion on a daily basis: if these terms are causing so much confusion, isn’t there a possibility there’s something wrong with them too, as opposed to being only a problem of people misunderstanding them? And if you truly car…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 12:11 PM
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It’s interesting to see the difference between feminists in Latin America and those in places like the U.S and Europe. In Latin America, they’re generally less ashamed of being outspoken about positions that aren’t really on tune with egalitarian values, like men paying restaurant bills, alimony or “positive discrimination”, whereas those in more developed nations tend to use certain subterfuges to advocate for the same things. Deep down, I think they’re aware that there’s a huge dissonance betw…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 05:26 PM
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You provided zero evidence or examples of feminists fighting family law reforms (even though I am aware of some). NOW has notoriously lobbied against alimony reform bills in Florida for years. https://floridaphoenix.com/2022/03/18/first-wives-urge-desantis-to-veto-reform-that-lets-wealthy-exes-undo-alimony-pledges/ https://floridaphoenix.com/2022/06/24/fl-governor-vetoes-alimony-overhaul-marking-its-third-failure-in-a-decade-of-reform-efforts/ And that’s just alimony, which is what OP is talking…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 05:03 PM
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My impression is that one of the core ideas behind gendered prison abolitionism is the notion that many of the women who are locked up were wronged by a biased court after killing their abusive husbands, which takes us back to theories like Battered woman syndrome and the unilateralism of domestic violence defended by proponents of the Duluth Model.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/22 12:19 PM
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Unlike eco-feminists (believe it or not, that's a real term), we egalitarians recognize explicitly that it is in fact men who are most victimized by AGW, because it's men who are far more likely to Ok, but even assuming that’s true, mentioning it like this is acting just like feminists do with their hierarchies of oppression. It’s valid as a rebuttal to their claims that women are uniquely affected by climate change and natural disasters, but I don’t see how it’s something worth mentioning isola…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/22 01:43 PM
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I would suggest you to post this on r/stupidpol and r/intellectualdarkweb. I don’t think your username will be a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/22 11:29 AM
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All women were asking for was support They ask for much more than support, though. They ask for passion, enthusiasm and unwavering devotion. No questions asked, just listen to the lived experience of women and obey the decrees. Men can’t even get the movement going for themselves so why do they expect women to do it for them? It’s not the same but nice try… Except there is a movement out there… it’s just not considered pure enough for not strictly adhering to a feminist hierarchy of oppression, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:16 PM
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I mean, if you see many of the events that marked certain countries in the last few years, like Roe V. Wade being overturned in the US or Sarah Everard’s murder in the UK, one of the most prevailing narratives is that men aren’t doing enough for women, that they should step up and be more vocal in their support for women. So it’s extremely confusing how anytime a subject that affects men comes up, the standard answer (usually from women) is that men are the ones who should organize themselves an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:27 PM
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Take a step back and listen to yourself. You’re saying they get so much hate from society that they respond to it by… hating and body shame others? That’s incredible understanding of you. But would you really offer the same understanding to men who became jaded after being mistreated because of their physical traits? I genuinely doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:18 PM
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The only reason I even watched AHS is because I used to be way less pick with my entertainment back then. But even then I used to find ludicrous how so many people would scream bloody murder about bad LGBT representation in media, then proceed to watch Ryan Murphy’s shows, with some of the worst and most caricatured LGBT characters in history. And yeah, it’s a wokefest. Granted, I admit there are many plot points that don’t sit well with the woke crowd too, especially in early seasons. But the “…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/22 02:38 PM
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Did anyone watch the show You, on Netflix? It has some interesting points. It’s nothing groundbreaking and there’s definitely tons of the same old “woke” narratives, but it also has some plot points that are very bold, considering the target audience and the platform it’s on. [SPOILERS] In the first season, Joe, the protagonist (who is a total creep, btw) witnesses a very awkward locker room talk involving the girl he is in love with (more like obsessed) and her friends, discussing in great deta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/22 01:06 PM
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I agree with your first point, but I think you’re exaggerating a bit in the other ones. I’ve never seen some of the things you mention IRL. It’s also a fact that a certain degree of minimalism is necessary if the average guy wants to fulfill the provider role that is required of him, even when the economy is crashing and inflation is going through the roof. Not by providing like an old husband would, but paying restaurants bills and stuff. And even fast food chains have unholy bills these days. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 08:37 PM
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(even though they'd targeted the wrong person, which I wonder if that was an intentional bit of commentary or just to add a little twist at the end). I always interpreted that as the writer’s way of mitigating the polemic he knew the movie would generate. Like, he’d knew the movie would already get shit for poking fun at dems, so having an actual conservative protagonist would be a bit too much, so they went for the “wrong person” route. To their credit, this is only revealed in the end of the m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 06:36 PM
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The first story seems interesting. Collective guilt is an interesting subject I wish were more explored. I wouldn’t say it’s a MRA talking point, though. Nor a point that makes the progressive side of the audience get out of their comfort zone. They already speak out against collective guilt when they urge people not to judge black people, latinos or muslims for a few bad apples in the community. Or even in their criticism of ideologies like The Red Pill and MGTOW. It’s when it comes to men spec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 04:07 PM
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It’s sad how many of those who liked the original post will readily accept the concept or original sin when it comes to topics other than religion. In my experience, online communities dedicated to those who left religion and are outspoken against it lean heavily towards feminism and the notion that men alone have enjoyed privileges throughout history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/22 07:48 PM
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It’s either extremely naive or a way of arguing for the status quo to be maintained without saying it. There’s only so much a country can do to improve itself. You don’t get to choose your neighbors or influence their policies to such extent. How could countries like South Korea or Ukraine ever afford to abolish the draft? When someone uses the “no draft is the only option” argument, what they’re essentially saying is that world peace is the only way of correcting this injustice. What’s more iro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 11:25 PM
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This is what happens when you take the support of your male allies for granted. So much that she feels comfortable holding this sign close to the men who joined her in the protest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/22 11:58 AM
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While I do feel like Depp vs Heard ended up being one of the most positive things that happened in terms of men’s rights in a long time for shedding light on male victims of domestic violence, sometimes I do wonder if the whole thing was an isolated case. It remains to be determined if this will reflect on future cases of DV/false accusations or if Depp only got the overwhelming support he got because he’s Depp and because the accusations against him were too ridiculous to even take serious, as …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/22 11:57 AM
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But it’s ok for them to have an opinion if they’re pro-choice, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:58 PM
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Men who see their children equally to the women don’t pay child support Nah. 50/50 custody isn’t mutually exclusive with child support. And of course, women pay child support too. Not only there are fewer women paying child support, but those who are ordered to pay are even less likely to do so than men. https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/dads-represent-85-of-child-support-providers-pay-more-than-female-payers/ https://www.npr.org/2015/03/01/389945311/who-fails-to-pay-child-support-moms-at-a-highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:03 PM
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it should be conjoined with a man's inalienable right to "relinquish" parental rights and thus not be legally obligated to pay child support or otherwise take ownership of the child he does not want Which is, by all intents and purposes, a legal right already offered to women via safe havens and adoption of their already born children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:39 PM
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People always make fun of those who advocate against the harshness of child support laws and men’s lack of ability to choose when it comes to fatherhood, but as soon as women’s rights are on the line, they pretend they give a damn about men being bled dry and imprisoned because of child support laws. They don’t even give a shit about men getting raped and being extracted child support by their rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:28 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/20/18629644/abortion-gender-gap-public-opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:21 PM
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Why do you think you’re gonna convince someone who believes life begins in conception with this argument? That’s one of the issues on the pro-choice side. There are good arguments to be pro-choice, but many of the most mainstream arguments only focus on what’s good for women and disregard the fact that your opposition genuinely believes there’s another party in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:16 PM
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Abortion isn’t a men vs women thing, even though it’s gonna get framed liked this. As men trying to control women’s bodies. But if you look at the numbers of men and women who a pro and against abortion, the disparity isn’t that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:11 PM
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People feel sorry when they see things like this, but that’s not likely to change until society control its tendency to pedopanic and vigilantism. This man was relentless harassed by people who felt it was their duty to punish him. Physically, verbally, psychologically. Everybody loves to applaud vigilantism for crimes of this nature. Civilians hunting pedos, pedos getting raped in prison. But when innocent people like this man end up as colateral damage of this culture, everyone pretends they h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 12:34 AM
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They really should change “rape” for something like “unwanted penetration”. The distinction between “rape” and “made to penetrate” might be useful to better understanding these numbers, but it sure lends itself to misunderstandings and bad faith use.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 07:05 PM
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By the same metrics used to exclude men from domestic violence and sexual violence conversations, you’d be able to exclude women from suicide and police violence conversations by an even larger margin. Crazy how this works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 06:51 PM
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I do. I was looking for opinions on this horror/comedy movie the other day and found a review that touches on this talking point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 10:23 AM
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I believe the state is Louisiana, not Indiana. I thought it was the Hammond in Indiana Edit: I've seen some unsourced claims saying she and her friends were (underage) drinking at a bar, which in that case it would be reasonable to think she was an adult. True. And fake IDs are a thing (sure, that’s not valid as a legal defense when it comes to statutory rape, but still) . Definitely not a fan of how the guy’s face is al over the place when the details here are so ambiguous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/22 12:59 PM
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Isn’t the age of consent in Indiana 16? I agree with you. I read the original thread and the article, then rage-posted it, but after rereading it again later, some details seem to be missing. Wish I could edit the title. Not that any of this would matter to most redditors, to be honest. The general mindset seems to be that having sex with anyone under the age of 18 is the same as forceful rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/22 11:57 AM
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https://www.wbrz.com/news/investigative-unit-rape-victim-ordered-to-pay-her-abuser-child-support/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/22 03:10 PM
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Mental illness is another example. Like... I swear over the last few years ADHD has become this thing that almost everyone claims to have. True. The big difference is that when it comes to issues like DV and “weaponized incompetence”, it creates a narrative where women have the moral high ground and men are the bad actors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/22 02:15 PM
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"Hey, my ex controlled my social life, as abusers do, and presented our relationship to the outside world as one where I'm incompetent and she has to mommy me, when actually I did all the work and would face consequences if any aspect of my social life wasn't subject to her control." This dynamic is something I think about often. I don’t doubt there are women who need to babysit their partners in relationships, but just like it happens with people recontextualizing events from their past relatio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/22 12:18 PM
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One thing people get wrong about developing nations is assuming that just because they have, on average, more problems than developed nations, that means feminism is more absent in those countries. I dare say that institutional feminism is much bigger and more codified in law in places like Latin America than it is in Europe and the U.S. Those countries having several problems isn’t mutually exclusive with that. My country, Brazil, doesn’t cover men in its law against domestic violence, unsurpri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/22 12:57 PM
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Welcome and thank you for your good work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 10:15 PM
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I like the idea of subs like FeminismUncensored and FEMRAdebates in theory, which is why it’s a shame that they always turn out like this, with rules being selectively enforced to punish the MRA side. In FeminismUncensored’s particular case, InfinitySky’s strategy was to get herself a henchman (TooNuanced) to do the dirty work for her by selectively enforcing rules to ridiculous extents, while she maintains a facade of free speech herself, since she’s not the one enforcing the rules. TooNuanced …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/22 10:13 AM
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I agree. For the record, I also believe men have agency when it comes to choosing their partners (though I’d argue they not necessarily have the same freedom in current society to actively make demands or criticize the opposite gender. Or even choose which gender roles they’ll perform in their relationship). One of the craziest examples to me is the whole discussion about how heavier the burden of domestic chores is for women and how unhelpful men can be at home. But didn’t those couples cohabit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/22 08:26 PM
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I think Battered Woman Syndrome is what you have in mind. Edit: oh, apparently not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 07:14 PM
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It’s the same thing with the coverage of professional sports.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 03:51 PM
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What lists like that tell is that female actresses are more conservative in their nude scenes. But them being more vocal doesn’t mean they’re the only ones subjected to it (which mirrors the same dynamics of even more serious problems that we discuss here, where women have more room to be vocal and people assume they’re disproportionately harmed by it just because men don’t have the same room to speak out about their experiences and views). Glad to know I’m not the only one who reached that conc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 01:20 PM
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Except it isn’t anymore for what? Almost a decade? Not in Hollywood at least. How long will this excuse be valid? And how is it a good when the people promoting it are largely against men sexualizing women? Shouldn’t they set an example then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 12:06 AM
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Extremely accurate summary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/22 12:00 AM
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I mean, prosthetic cocks are pretty popular. They’re not really meant to hide, though? More like putting emphasis or adding a comedic tone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 11:58 PM
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Just that it's weird people complaining about an imbalance when the actual imbalance is quite large and going the other way historically. Because the double standards are the issue here, not the imbalance itself. The nudity and sexualization of male characters are being largely prompted by an industry that believes that men treating female characters the same way is problematic. It’s only natural that we judge those who fail to abide by their own rules more harshly. You’d hear no complaints from…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 10:12 PM
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I agree entirely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 09:52 PM
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It's probably not a perfect comparison but I think it plays into traditional gender scripts. Where men have to "work" (or "do") to have something but women can just decide that they want to "be" a certain way, and present that way publicly Do you believe men could benefit from activities that focused more on “being”, as opposed to “doing”?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 09:21 PM
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Standing up for themselves? If feels more like they’re using the current zeitgeist to interfere with creative decisions and being exempted from getting out of the comfort zone that all actors have to get out of in certain productions. Sure, there are cases where I definitely think there’s room for standing up for yourself. One example is Carice Van Houten in GOT. Her nude scenes were excessive and I definitely wouldn’t blame her if she decided to put an end to that (she’s Dutch, though. She real…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 08:53 PM
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I’ve seen some “research” about how much more prevalent female nudity is than male nudity in Hollywood floating around. Thing is, after a while, you start to be skeptical of the research methods of ideologically driven researches by default. For all I know, they could very well not count butt nudity as nudity, but only boobs and genitals, which would naturally increase the discrepancy between male and female nudity, since boobs are much less controversial than genitals and won’t have a similar e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 08:38 PM
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I think the problem is that these types aren’t exactly rare. One of the challenges when it comes to countering the excesses of progressive narratives is that we’re talking about ideologies that normalized the “rules for thee and not for me” behavior by popularizing frameworks that say their wrongdoings aren’t as harmful as the wrongdoings of the groups they denounce because they have been oppressed by centuries and lack institutional power. You could see this very clearly in the post I mentioned…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 06:14 PM
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Not really sure about that, though. The artistic scene in the UK doesn’t seem that different. I also watch Spanish productions occasionally (they’re crazy successful in my country) and they seem to follow a similar pattern, specially those on streaming services. I don’t doubt they’re less prudish than Americans on a daily basis, but that is not mutually exclusive with a subset of them - who happen to have a monopoly on media - being proponents of an ideology that finds female nudity in fiction p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 05:30 PM
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Yep. Granted, there’s certainly an argument to be made about female breasts being sexualized while male ones are not, but when it comes to tight clothes/bathing suits, you’re definitely on point. The ironic part is that there’s so much talk in progressive spheres about the lack of male knowledge when it comes to female anatomy, but it’s baffling how there are so many women who make mean or sexual remarks about men’s bulges or lack thereof, since there’s not necessarily a correlation between your…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 04:47 PM
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I like the idea of subs like FeminismUncensored and FEMRAdebates in theory, which is why it’s a shame that they always turn out like this, with rules being selectively enforced to punish the MRA side. In FeminismUncensored’s particular case, InfinitySky’s strategy was to get herself a henchman to do the dirty work for her by selectively enforcing rules to ridiculous extents, while she maintains a facade of free speech herself, since she’s not the one enforcing the rules. TooNuanced herself has e…
/r/EverydayMisandry24/05/22 02:10 PM
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They pose a threat by fostering radicalization, which makes the recruitment very easy for TERFs and conservatives alike.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 12:28 AM
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People generally recognize and forgive reactive violence when it comes to women being abused by men. So much that there are even terms to describe it, such as Battered Woman Syndrome. That’s why there’s feminists advocacy and literature arguing that women shouldn’t be penalized for murdering their abusive husbands, even if they aren’t in immediate danger. Or even a lot of revenge fiction depicting such scenario. That’s why a woman got away with drugging her allegedly abusive husband and roasting…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:51 AM
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Yep. That’s what I thought. Granted, I know that the bar for what constitutes “hate speech” for the likes of her is very low, but I wouldn’t be so worried if she was only talking about algorithms and radicalization. Instead, she wants censorship so she can promote her own ideology and is not afraid to admit it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 01:41 AM
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This is terrible. I’m always shocked by their ability to dehumanize even their own family members. I think it’s important to make a compilation of such examples, as they’re very effective in exposing the fanaticism in feminists rhetoric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 01:31 AM
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Ty. Fixed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 01:49 PM
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That’s because in a feminist perspective, not having the final say all the time means you’re excluded from power. But reality is often more complicated than that. Even those who hold great institutional power have to coexist with other powerful lobbies. Unless you live in a dictatorship, that is. Is that something feminists want? And feminism does have a great deal of institutional power. Its organizations have lobbying power and a proven track record of influencing policies. Its proponents have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 01:11 PM
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offmychest actually bans people for participating in subs guilty of wrong thinking. You know what’s funny? They’re perfectly fine allowing posts like “Men are gross”. As I said, we’re talking about an ideology that legitimates the “it’s ok when we do it” mentality. And its proponents are naturally attracted to positions of power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 10:52 AM
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They seem to have a very narrow concept of “opening up, expressing yourself and showing vulnerability”. In the rare instances they pay lip service to male issues, the impression I have is that they want men to be more like women. There’s this obsession with men crying, painting their nails and wearing makeup in some circles. But it doesn’t go much further. The problem is that all that barely scratches the surface. But whenever “opening up” entails talking about their problems with the opposite g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 10:38 AM
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It’s also telling how not even adopting a subservient approach like MensLib is enough to get the approval of these types. They criticized the sub a bit on the post I mentioned, as well as previous posts on AskFeminists. The clown TakeitToCirclejerk, someone active users here know well, is constantly treated like a dog in feminist subs, despite all his efforts to please them. In fact, he was treated like a dog in this post I’m mentioning for trying to reason with the feminist on the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 10:27 AM
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I was browsing MensLib these days and saw an upvoted comment saying that the problem with “meninist/MRA” types is that they treat male problems like they’re “the real problems”, on top of also mentioning the whole “men are responsible for creating men’s problems” bullshit. I mean, such a crime, right? For a movement to treat its problems like they’re “the real problems”, the ones that most relevant to them. Is there any movement that ever achieved something that didn’t treat the problems it was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 10:21 AM
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Hello. Thanks for the perspective. When you see some of the opinions on menrights, it's possible to understand why they would have come to that conclusion. Thing is, Mensrights was one of the subs harmed by Reddit’s double standards when it comes to their policy for banning subs. It used to be a lot better, but it received an influx of users from MGTOW subs that got banned (not really throwing all of them under the bus, but they often have a very different profile). There’s a lot of users obsess…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 01:22 AM
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There’s a great deal of prison abolitionists who work with this line of advocacy. Which is crazy, because saying prison doesn’t work for women implies it does for men. https://np.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/fdcall/why_are_mras_so_right_wing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.vera.org/news/addressing-the-overuse-of-segregation-in-u-s-prisons-and-jails/women-face-unique-harms-from-solitary-confinement https://www.apt.ch/en/blog/solitary-confinement-harder-women-sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 01:02 AM
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If you doubt the last, here's EJ Dickson, a writer for Rolling Stone, on the character of her own son: there is strong evidence that our society is so steeped in toxic masculinity, so drenched in the primordial ooze of white male supremacy, that it doesn't matter how many dolls you buy your kid or how many times he reads A Is For Activist. I have read my fair share of articles written by feminists showing concerns about their sons turning out wrong. It’s quite concerning that kids are growing up…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/22 12:41 AM
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I disagree. If that’s the case, the slogan should be something like “Treat and investigate sexual assault accusations the same way you’d treat and investigate others”. Believing someone means believing someone. The fact that so many people have been successfully led to believe otherwise just points to one of the greatest acts of collective gaslighting an ideology has ever promoted. Not to mention that the proponents of such narrative constantly reinforce the alleged rarity of false rape accusati…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/22 03:45 PM
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You’re being extremely pedantic over things that aren’t really worth it, tbh. In some cases, I was even specific to avoid this (like saying women have the risk of getting pregnant, not that they’re bound to get pregnant), but to no avail. Yeah, thanks for letting me know that women can live without getting pregnant and telling me how normal this is these days. Your hunger for making a point would be better employed elsewhere, over things that really matter. It doesn’t really makes you look smart…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 12:35 AM
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I wholeheartedly believe the way media addresses gender issues is partly responsible for the deterioration of men’s mental health. I bet the whole collective guilt used by media outlets against after Sarah Everard’s murder certainly didn’t help those men who killed themselves. There’s a frustrating lack of positive messages for men out there to counter all the negativity directed at them. And this is hurting them. The few attempts to actually tackle the issue and acknowledge male issues in mains…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 10:52 PM
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I think you’re extrapolating a bit. No one is bound to have diseases for being born a certain gender. As I said, I had daily and mundane inconveniences in mind, not really diseases. Having periods is not a disease, PMS is not a disease and neither is the risk of getting pregnant, though they are inconvenience that are almost certain to be present in the lives of adult females. Men do have inconveniences too (and I certainly wish society as a whole would be more open to talk about them too), like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 10:35 PM
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That's inaccurate, actually. Men do have biological disadvantages, it just happens that they are not noticeable the way things like physical strength are. But for example, having weaker immune systems against infections or cancer is by no means a minor thing. In fact, it's possible it plays a role in men being more vulnerable to COVID-19. because the problem is that it can create a false notion of men being "biologically superior" to women, which is a nonsensical idea. I’m not saying this in a s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 03:49 PM
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I agree with your second and third points. Not so sure about the third, though. Women can retire 3 years earlier (used to be five and I think it still is in some fields) in my country and men don’t seem to care and are just living on autopilot. Either that or they are totally on board with it, even those who are more fiscally conservative. Sure, maybe suddenly introducing things that would abruptly change the status quo, as opposed to things that are a part of the system as long as people can re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 11:12 AM
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When I first saw this news on Facebook, there were a great deal of people, including women, who found it ludicrous. There were also many of them who thought it was fair. The article says the package was announced by the The Secretary of State for Equality and against Gender Violence and Spain is known for being a country that leans heavily on the feminist side, so I think it’s fair to say that this is a subject that’s relevant and worth fighting for many of them, both institutional feminists and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/22 10:13 AM
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Are you in the U.S? Heightism is very strong anywhere in the world, but I heard it’s specially bad in the U.S. Short men not only are more likely to earn less than taller men, but are more likely to be depressed and attempt suicide. There’s a bit of research about that. When I was younger and realized and I wasn’t going to grow much anymore, that made me extremely depressed. Coming to terms with the fact that I was gay brought me a lot of relief when it comes to that, because men generally care …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 10:49 PM
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Because news like that bother the moderators, like any other news about men being victimized by women. People who share their worldview are the same ones who mock men who dare to speak out against generalizations, the same ones who say men shouldn’t take the generalizations of feminists personally. In fact, there was even a post on MensLib defending the right to misandrist humor. But these same individuals, despite mocking their political opponents for having a low tolerance for generalizations,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 03:39 PM
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Feminists did a nice job when it comes to creating and redefining (such as emotional labor) terms to describe their everyday experiences. The problem with popularizing these terms and introducing them to a mainstream audience is that many of them are bound to recontextualize their own experiences to fit the experience described in these terms, though. Even when that’s not necessarily the case. While many man might indeed “weaponize” their incompetence, there’s also examples like the one in the f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/22 11:00 PM
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Yup. There’s also a substantial amount of them who live in first world countries and swear they’re at risk 24/7, that they’re hostages in their own homes. One’s assessment of reality and perception of the risks they face does not necessarily paint a clear picture of reality. But it doesn’t really matter, because women as a group have much more of a collective mindset than men. If they collectively decide they’re at risk, society as a whole will accept that and let a great deal of sociopathic beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:37 PM
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You’re just using semantics to make ordinary things sound way worse than they are. Tools that people use every day, tools they need to function and thrive. In businesses, in politics and sometimes even in relationships, though there’s an argument to be made about the best ones being those that involve the least amount of transactions. We all make compromises. Every single day. The “greater good” and “good reasons” are way more up to debate. And you just disagree with OP because you work with a d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 05:46 PM
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Your appeal to definition here does you no favors. Try taking someone to court on those terms. Even better, try applying this to real life and you’ll see that everyone is a blackmailer. A woman who says she’s going to leave her abusive partner is he doesn’t start to treat her better? Blackmailer. A man who says he’s going to stop to financially support his abusive girlfriend? Blackmailer. A parent who tells their kid to behave or else they’ll get grounded? Blackmailer. Boss who threats to fire a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 05:20 PM
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I was browsing MensLib today and saw an upvoted comment saying that the problem with “meninist/MRA” types is that they treat male problems like they’re “the real problems”, on top of also mentioning the whole “men are responsible for creating men’s problems” bullshit. I mean, what a fucking crime, right? For a movement to treat its problems like they’re “the real problems”, the ones that most relevant to them. Is there any movement that ever achieved something that didn’t treat the problems it w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 04:56 PM
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To be honest, I think it’s quite sad how we’re aware that men’s rights are held hostage. Meaning it’s only ok to even bring male issues to the debate in a society that is up to date with female rights. The implication of that is: male rights are not as important and pressing as female rights, that both subjects are mutually exclusive, since one must take precedence over the other. This is all very tiresome. And I don’t mean to derail or make the whole thing solely about men’s right when it’s obv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 01:43 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with masturbating. Don’t buy this nonsense. I don’t know why OP brought this subject out of nowhere, like a religious zealot bringing Jesus into a random conversation. You might have problems, but it’s very clear from your comments that they’re not porn-related and that you’re not addicted. But anti-porn crusaders don’t give a damn. It doesn’t matter the frequency, they’ll always label men who watch it smooth brained and gaslight them into believing that porn is the sole ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:09 AM
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Yeah imagine being more cautious about being raped or murdered than about paying for a meal 🤪do you people even listen to yourselves Yeah, the plights of being a woman in a first world country and belonging to one of the safest demographics in the history of mankind. This shit is getting old. Hysterical feelings and moral panic do not dictate reality. Statistically, women do more household work than men, thereby forcing women to make sacrifices in their career The plights of the modern woman man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:08 PM
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Did they worry about male individuality when they decided to grab torches and pitchforks and condemn men for allegedly condoning inappropriate behavior? Did they consider the individuality of each men when they decided to pester society about how men are not helping with domestic chores and burdening them with “emotional labor” or whatever kind of bullshit labor they came up this week? I don’t think so. They only cared about their own cherry-picked statistics and lived experience and told the ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:32 PM
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The whole “it’s up to the person who made the invitation to pay” is just one of many ways they use to maintain a status quo that benefits them without actually saying it out loud and admitting their own inconsistency, given that it’s most men inviting women out. And as shown here, it’s men paying in the rare occasions women invite them too. And they absolutely should be held to higher standards than men. It was women and not men who started a liberation movement demanding the end of gender roles…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:10 PM
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It’s the same shit in non-Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:07 PM
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The fact that you’ve already been messaged first back then already puts you in front of what, 90%, 95% of guys on dating apps? And pretty much suggests to me that you’re oblivious about your own experience. Most guys do not get messaged first. Ever. And changing your profession from UberEats to programmer, something that (generally, but not always) requires a degree, study and can pay very well was simply the cherry on the cake. Edit: also, I was browsing your profile, OP, and it says you’re 6’4…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:24 PM
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Sounds more like they’re interested in you because you’re attractive than because of your work, if they’re willing to even make the first move on dating apps. I bet this is yet another case of a guy underestimating his looks. When you’re attractive enough, people are going to be interested in your work even if you make a living pulling shit out of constipated elephants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:06 PM
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It’s fruitless. She’s known for being a big advocate against due process and presumption of innocence on this sub. Like many others like her, she’s a slave to her own instincts and desire for safety and couldn’t care less about the price men would have to pay to achieve her ideal world. It’d be one thing if they merely distrusted men, but they actually advocate for a structure that would simply crush any men regardless of guilt to protect women. The fact that women managed to convince a good por…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:21 PM
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How can the Biden administration ever hope to control misinformation when they are guilty of accepting and spreading one of the biggest lies of this century, the wage gap?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 03:17 AM
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This is so crazy to me, you know? How unilateral gender dynamics can be sometimes. Can you really imagine a boyfriend or husband kissing his partner/wife goodbye and leaving them behind in a war zone? A father fleeing to safety while his daughter is unable to? Who would accept such thing? Those wives and daughters certainly wouldn’t see those men in the same light, neither would society. But somehow, we do not extend the same treatment to women who kiss their loved ones goodbye and prioritize th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 10:03 PM
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A lot of conservatives who are otherwise critical of feminists’ misandry readily accept JK Rowling and other radical feminists just because they agree with them in a point or two. It’s just like that meme of the granny calling the rabbit while she has a knife concealed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 04:01 PM
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The conundrum of left-wing feminists who advocate for prison reform and measures that would reduce the prison population - specially among black people -, but also advocate for state-enforced child support and prison time for men who fail to pay it. I’ve even seen TERFs I know IRL arguing that unemployment doesn’t matter and that men should bend over and backwards to pay CS. To get away with such a blatant display of incoherence and lack of empathy is a privilege reserved to feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 03:56 PM
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There’s absolutely no guarantee that women in fertile age are going to reproduce at a satisfactory enough rate to replenish the decimated male population of a country or that they’re going to reproduce at all. In the old days, when contraceptive methods were less accessible or completely nonexistent, it was almost a given that fertile women who engaged in sexual activity were going to get pregnant. Not anymore, though. I’m not really sure about the long-term benefits of giving up able-bodied wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 03:49 PM
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Btw, it never fails to amaze how people can always extract something good out of the actions of feminists. Very few ideologies can wreck so much on their way to the top and still be almost unanimously regarded as a force for good because they happened to help people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 07:28 PM
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Is it good that famous men who have been getting away with abuse for decades are finally being held to account, yes or no? That depends entirely on who you ask and there’s no unanimous answer. For the women who managed to expose their abusers? Yeah, that much is obvious. For the innocent men caught in the storm? No, it wasn’t. But the fact that MeToo allowed women to get justice is irrelevant to determine the legitimacy of the movement. We can’t really determine the nature of a movement or actio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 06:58 PM
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There’s also data suggesting that black people commit more crimes than white people. So unless you’re also supportive of white people’s right to treat black people like a threat, your opinion is both invalid and hypocritical. I bet you don’t support this kind of treatment when it comes to black people, so why is it ok to subject men to it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 04:50 PM
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I don’t get why even people in the Men’s Rights movement see MeToo as a good thing sometimes. I fail to see anything remotely positive about the movement. Worst of all is all the gaslighting involved whenever someone tries to point out that automatically believing alleged victims is the same as throwing presumption of innocence away. It’s just baffling how much feminists try to argue that believing alleged victims is not mutually exclusive with presumption of innocence. Can someone enlighten me …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 04:46 PM
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I mean, yeah, this is the other side of the coin, which I see mostly in subs such as this one. But I’ve seen plenty of the former in specifically trans/LGBT subs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/22 06:58 PM
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I’ve seen similar things as well. Sure, there are trans guys who speak out against the misandry inside and outside the community and how it has affected them post-transition. But I’m not sure I’d call them the rule. Maybe it’s true that many of them recognize misandry and criticize feminists to a certain extent, but the impression I get sometimes is that many of them are more upset that they’re not exempted from misandry for not being cis guys than about misandry itself. Like “It’s ok to be misa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/22 05:04 PM
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because in the queer community the only people who defend cisboys are cisboys Nah, that’s not true. Misandry as a form of getting “queer credit” is just as common among cis guys in the community. And it isn’t enough for the misandrist straight, bisexual and lesbian women who have a crusade against men. It will never be. No matter how much gay/bi guys worship and idolize women, how much they say that God is a black and lesbian woman, the people they’re trying to please will just keep writing arti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/22 04:54 PM
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There’s a very nice video of Karen Straughan where she talks about how Lady Macbeth is the embodiment of toxic femininity (in the beginning and end of the video). Not that I believe toxic femininity or masculinity (I’m not sure Karen Straughan does either), but if we were to underline toxic behaviors that are disproportionately displayed by individuals of a gender, just like feminists love to do with men and toxic masculinity, Lady Macbeth would be one of the best examples of toxic femininity. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/22 04:21 PM
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Helping men as a byproduct of helping women doesn’t mean feminism cares about men. If it truly cared about men, you’d see advocacy to solve issues that exclusively or disproportionately affect men that didn’t necessarily benefit them (or even better, advocacy to help men in areas that would actually require women to let go of certain benefits or reevaluate certain behaviors). But you’ll have a hard time finding anything like that. You’ll mostly find cases where men were helped by extension or wh…
/r/MensRights19/04/22 05:46 PM
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Because society enables individuals like her by showering them with a sea of validation after validation and encouraging that kind of behavior and expectation, as well as sweeping male efforts and contributions under the rug while simultaneously exaggerating female efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:57 AM
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I have no problem with preferences. Not at all. Hypocrisy and double standards are the issues here, as well as delusions about how much they bring to the table. And the same way people have the right to make these decisions and act the way they do, I also have the right to criticize the inconsistency of these decisions and behaviors. The narrative that several PPD female users want to sell is “Well, women didn’t have choices, but now they do. That is a good thing and those who criticize them onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:47 AM
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“Ew, gender roles. I just happen to coincidentally be in a relationship with a 6’0 guy who outearns me, just like my ex. He’s also also coincidentally the one who shoulders the financial burdens when we go out, because he likes to treat me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 03:07 AM
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I think you phrased it in a very weird way. It’d be better if you wrote “Retain it, but apply it evenly” in the second choice. Even so, it’s my understanding that most men’s rights advocates are willing to work with multiple possibilities, so the truth is that there’s something in the middle. There’s the ideal solution, which most of them would prefer. But the inability to reach such idealistic goals doesn’t mean we can’t take take smaller steps to mitigate current injustices and unequal enforce…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 03:34 PM
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Preferential tax treatment would be an understatement when one of their biggest talking points recently is how female hygiene products should be 100% public funded.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 10:10 AM
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There was a post about this movie before, where some people point out how this isn’t surprising at all, considering how movies like Ex Machina are full of red flags about Alex Garland’s views on men. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/tnyzw3/alex_garlands_men_spoilers_for_the_trailer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/22 09:58 AM
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There was also a surprisingly positive post there about hiring discrimination. https://np.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/twvv2o/jamie_sarkonak_why_canadian_universities_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/22 09:54 AM
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It’s certainly curious how often men get told by feminists not to feel offended by their terminologies. These conversations often involve accusations of sensibility and fragility too. And the argument that if you’re truly one of the good guys, you shouldn’t be offended. But how can they ask men to not take these things personally when they have a hard time dealing with any kind of conversation that paints their gender in a bad light themselves? I think most people here are aware of how conversat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/22 04:26 PM
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Every semester my college does an "expulsion" process where all the students that have had low enough grades according to some metrics they have, have to write an appeal That sounds awful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 08:16 PM
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I think you’ll like Dune. Also, I haven’t played SOMA yet, but it’s been on my list for a while. I have played Amnesia, though. It’s great.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 12:22 AM
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Interestingly enough, female adulterers weren’t necessarily judged more harshly than male adulterers everywhere. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/toyl85/the_myth_that_there_was_a_historical_double/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery_law_in_India
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/22 11:43 PM
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I don’t disagree with you, actually. But at the same time, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume data about subjects like this are heavily skewed and the numbers are way higher because people lie to look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:36 PM
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That assuming those men aren’t lying, which could very well be the case, just like women lie about body count, standards and all sorts of things. It’s complicated with subjects like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:56 PM
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Not to mention that the words sexism and machismo are often used interchangeably in Latin America. In places like Brazil, for example, sexism is rarely used and machismo is the default word. So the discourse about gender is even more gendered than is in places like the U.S, as reflected by terms used, which further remove female agency and reinforce male perpetration/blame, even in situations where they’re the victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/22 02:54 PM
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I think of Cardi B who openly bragged about drugging and robbing men who tried hooking up with her prior to her fame. There was a blip about it on media outlets, but her fame absorbed the hit. Which is ironic, considering the average “Yass Kween” girls in her fanbase are outspoken feminists and wouldn’t tolerate similar behavior from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:31 PM
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And yet, “I was afraid of being alone” is often used by female abusive victims to explain why they stayed with their abusers for so long. And no one offers anything but unconditional support and empathy. So by your logic, women in such situation also need to grow a pair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:18 PM
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A theory that doesn’t survive practice. Since young age, girls are thought to beware of abusive men. By their parents, by media, by their friends when she grows older. You’re taught to recognize behaviors that are often displayed by abusive men. And if you find yourself in a situation where you’re the victim of one, there’s a support net for you. If you’re a man, not only you grow up in a world that sweeps female malice under the rug and told such thing does not exist, but you’re actively molded…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 02:11 PM
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Would be a valid school of thought if it applied to both genders equally, but we know it’s not. Meanwhile, tons of women are getting plenty of support for finally getting out of the sixth abusive relationship, but there’s totally nothing wrong with them and their choice of men. And if you suggest otherwise, you’re victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:32 PM
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And why on Earth would a man do that with someone he’s not attracted to? I mean, I don’t doubt there are people who do that without necessarily having attraction to the same gender, but those are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:18 PM
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That’s why I said sexual attraction in my comment, not only sex. So yeah, even if sex is not actually happening, most relationships start because there’s at least one party who is sexually attracted to the other and wants to have sex (and a good time and everything else, but also sex). Also, purely sexual relationships can and often do develop into something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 01:14 PM
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I’ve never understood why I emotionless meaningless sex is so much better than masturbation. I’m not advocating for this kind of relationship or saying it’s ideal, but it really isn’t that hard to see how human touch and warmth can beat masturbation, even with someone you’re not necessarily in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:32 PM
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But sex/sexual attraction IS the gateway to relationships these days. And while yeah, men might be, on average, more interested in casual sex than women, I’m not sure the huge disparity between bisexual men in same-sex relationships and those in opposite-sex relationships can be fully explained by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:26 PM
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In theory, yes. I’ve seen even some guys on this sub claiming this is their situation. But in reality, the vast majority of bisexuals (from both genders) I’ve met had a romantic preference for the opposite gender. And last time I checked, most bisexuals currently dating are in opposite sex relationships. Some say it’s because they have a larger dating pool for the opposite gender, but I don’t really buy this argument for men. Not when a man can attract more men in a month than women the whole ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:51 AM
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Firstly, I'm just going to go with an obvious one. Alien is very good. I'm not going to make any argument for it being rigorous, but I like it a lot anyway. Oh, obviously a nice pick. For some reason, I was under the impression that you would strictly like productions that are more scientifically rigorous, but I’m glad to be proven wrong. I will admit to being an Alien purist, too. Alien 2 is a decent film, but the original stands above the rest to me. And it's just disappointing how terrible th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 11:40 PM
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That was my take as well. And in addition to everything going on with Ava, the way Oscar Isaac’s character treats the other female robot further reinforces the “abusive victims” perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 08:05 PM
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Hereditary is a very good movie and represents everything I believe a slow-burn of its genre should be. And not only is the payoff worth it, but the movie is totally gripping from begging to end, instead of only a series of unimportant events to kill time until the last act. I also feared the movie would end up pulling some kind “it was all in their head” bullshit before watching it, but oh boy, how wrong I was. Glad I went to the theaters watch it. Everyone was clearly shocked during the behead…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 04:31 PM
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I really like sci-fi that goes deeper into the exploration of the concepts and questions dealt with in sci-fi and tries to do something different than the typical "fantasy story and human relationships, just placed in a sci-fi setting" thing There aren’t many of those these days, right? The Expanse is one of the few things that comes to mind. I’m a guy who’s into lore/worldbuilding when it comes to sci-fis, so stories about human relationships where the the sci-fi setting is merely a device for …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 04:23 PM
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True. Though there’s no difference to losing your hair to alopecia areata or androgenic alopecia (except that alopecia areata can also affect other parts of the body, like beard and eyebrows, so you could argue it’s worse in that sense). The impact is just the same and one shouldn’t be taken more serious than the other because it’s an autoimmune disease (which, just like androgenic alopecia, is genetic and totally out of one’s control).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 03:45 PM
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It’s crazy to see some of the comments on Facebook. People acting as if it’s different from male baldness because she has a disease, when it’s literally the same thing, they just didn’t know the proper name.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 01:21 PM
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In theory, I even agree that hair loss, depending on the severity, is a lot worse for women (although age is also a factor here. I think it’s a lot worse for a 16 years old guy to suffer with hair loss than a woman is her 70s). On the other hand, it’s curious how it’s a lot more acceptable for women to use some of the available tools to deal with the shortcomings of androgenic alopecia and alopecia areata, like hair extensions, hair systems, fake eyebrows. This is specially noticeable among blac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 01:16 PM
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There was even a post about it here. The most interesting is how the only man portrayed in a positive light is the feminine one, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 11:26 AM
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Yep. It’s suddenly a health issue when it happens to women. Nothing wrong with that, shame they won’t extend the same treatment to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 11:18 AM
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Chivalry at its finest. Another thing worth noting is how much more seriously society takes female hair loss, whereas I’ve seen people straight up telling men who were struggling with depression and suicide ideation because of hair loss to man up, even on Reddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 11:17 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/mfs1i1/in_the_spring_of_1900_yaa_asantewaa_queen_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7667033/amp/Queens-gone-war-kings-centuries-historic-study-finds.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather And women were more than happy to enforce.
/r/MensRights28/03/22 01:15 AM
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The reason people make false rape accusations a race issue is because acknowledging that they’re a gender issue would be acknowledging male victimization. Even worse, male victimization by women, backed up by the law, which is pretty much admitting that institutions can work in favor of women and against men in certain cases, which contradicts their very worldview. Besides, false accusations don’t have to go to court to do damage and ruin someone’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:53 AM
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Nah, you don’t get to turn this into a race only problem. Black men are still men. They’re just more likely to be wrongfully convicted and are easier targets. These men wouldn’t have been accused if they were women, which makes it a gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:49 AM
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Yeah, these men were all on probation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3363227/amp/New-trial-ordered-Denver-man-imprisoned-28-years.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10243347/amp/Black-man-cleared-rape-47-years-victim-said-identified-wrong-man.html https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8729818002 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/man-wrongly-accused-of-rape-sues-over-time-spent-in-prison-1.4733231 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/man-cleared-charg…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:24 AM
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I genuinely thought your post was a satire, but it isn’t. You say you’re more attractive than most men, sociable and have one of the most desired professions in the market, yet you’re supposed to be an example of how the average dude is doing well for himself? All due respect, but that’s simply delusion. And perfectly representative of how guys who minimize the struggles of other men in the dating world usually do so by downplaying their own attractiveness and status, like they’re as average as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:36 PM
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I have noticed people in certain circles being more sympathetic towards female cheaters in my own experience. Not outright defending the act itself, but trying to rationalize the decisions of the cheater and even blaming or mocking her partner for supposedly failing to fulfill her desires. When it comes to male cheating, I don’t really see a similar inclination to blame the woman who was cheated on for failing to make her partner feel fulfilled. But it’s interesting that you bring some numbers. …
/r/MensRights27/03/22 12:28 AM
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I’m quite fond of Argento’s movies myself. It’s funny, because there are some criticisms about how exploitative his movies were of its female characters. I do think there’s merit to such criticisms. Even though male characters died as gruesomely as the female ones, there was an erotic undertone in the deaths of the female characters. But I never got that sense that the movies were saying those characters deserved to be killed. And it’s not like genres like giallo are mainstream or anything. Not …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 05:35 PM
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Not really. It was highly recommended as one of the best of its genre in 2021, though. But I tend to find most movies with that kind of aesthetics dull (it worked well for the original Suspiria, but I didn’t really like most movies that followed). Thanks for the warning. Glad I skipped it. It’s funny how people swear there are misogynistic undertones in most Hollywood productions, but still, I haven’t seen anything remotely similar to the fetishization of female on male violence in fiction. And …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 04:59 PM
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The audience and its own writer/director missed it for the sole reason that the character in question is a man. There’s no possibility that that wouldn’t be considered rape were it a woman in his place. Men, on the other hand, are seen as more agentic, so no matter how drugged he was, he can’t be coerced and raped the same way a woman can. That’s true even for the very progressive circles that enjoy artsy movies like this. They might recognize the existence of female on male rape, but their bar …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 03:11 PM
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Her sister didn’t just die. It was a murder-suicide and she took her parents along with her. So while yeah, many of Christian’s actions throughout the movie are questionable, the situation isn’t as black and white as its fans seem to think. Even though he isn’t a paragon of a human being, it’s easy to get why someone in his position felt stuck in that relationship, with someone who relied on him so much and just lost her entire family. It’s crazy to me that the audience thinks Christian needs to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 12:51 PM
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It’s one of the consequences of the current discourse about gender, where the word is only mentioned in negative contexts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 11:13 PM
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When I saw a Facebook post about the movie, I immediately felt it would follow this path. I didn’t see any trailer, but the title just rubbed me the wrong way, even though it’s extremely vague. I can’t really say I’m surprised, though, coming from Alex Garland. Truth be told, I don’t know much about him. I watched most of his movies (The Beach, 28 Days Later, Sunshine, Annihilation, etc), but it was purely out of coincidence, not because I knew he was involved. But something feels off about Ex M…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 10:34 PM
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It’s not against the rules for you to post there, it’s against the rules when a thread from subreddit A gets linked in subreddit B and members of subreddit B go to the original thread to downvote or antagonize.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 12:49 PM
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Don’t do that. It’s brigading and against Reddit’s rules. And they’ll ban you anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 12:39 PM
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You know, in this case, I even say that there was room to help the woman, because she clearly wanted to be helped. But I wouldn’t say it applies to most DV cases, where you have no possible idea if the woman will join her abuser and beat you, as it happened so many times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 12:37 PM
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You know, in this case, I even say that there was room to help the woman, because she clearly wanted to be helped. But I wouldn’t say it applies to most DV cases, where you have no possible idea if the woman will join her abuser and beat you, as it happened so many times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 12:37 PM
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Either everyone has a duty to put their physical integrity on the line to help others or no one does. Still worth noting that violence is much more likely to be employed against men in these situations. The problem is that it’s very easy to use subterfuges to enforce a worldview that expects heroism of men while giving women room to care about their physical integrity first with the justification that men are stronger than women. So while a man is criticized for putting their physical integrity …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/22 12:32 PM
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Then if you fail to see the existence of a very significant subset of women who want revenge on men, even as a man, I don’t know what else to tell you. And it’s not some niche sub like PPD. It’s completely mainstream. They have a lot of say on social medias, entertainment, music.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:26 AM
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Welcome to how it feels like to be a man sharing the world with a significant amount of women who want revenge for what they believe was done to their gender in the past. You feel like this on PPD, men feel like this everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 10:02 AM
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You talk about a world free of sexism, but here you are, judging a man for lack of sex, even though there’s nothing in his comment to imply he’s deprived of sex. If you try to use lack of sex to offend a man, the obvious implication is that you believe lack of sex is demeaning for a men. I don’t see how such view is compatible with someone who wants a better world, free of sexism. Maybe this world you desire so much isn’t truly a world without sexism, but specifically a world without sexism dire…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:10 AM
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So let me see if I get this straight, it’s men’s job to solve their issues on their own, but men - if they want to be considered good and “not a part of the problem - need to call out sexism against women, according to you? Sounds pretty one-sided to me. Women can be considered good just by focusing on their own issues, but men need to take the burden of solving female issues into their own hands. Not surprising, though. The current narrative sells a scenario where women and women alone are resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:01 AM
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The way they talk about it, it feels like they have to walk miles to the closest stream to wash clothes and fetch water. We have running water at home, devices that greatly reduce the effort required of the house chores and, above all, we live in cubicles. So don’t know why they’re still pretending that the average housewife’s work is remotely as heavy as the work of a rural homemaker before modern conveniences. Not to mention that you can always do something for your own pleasure while clothes …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:47 AM
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There is virtually no prominent feminist who do not spouse patriarchy theory (and yeah, I believe calling Paglia and Sommers feminists is a stretch. They might call themselves so, but it’s not like there’s a branch of the movement that’s heavily influenced by their ideas. And they dedicate more time to debunking feminist narratives than being feminists). I really doubt an attempt to reform feminism by trying to shame adepts of patriarchy theory into believing they’re radfems will work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/22 01:43 AM
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Shitty take. You know very well that men can date women and still be misogynists, so why wouldn’t the same be true the other way around? Having a boyfriend/husband, loving your male friends and family members, none of that is mutually exclusive with being a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:25 AM
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You use appeal to the definition fallacy to defend feminism and wanna accuse others of not thinking critically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:22 AM
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It’s not only on Reddit. It’s everywhere. There’s really no escape as long as you’re online. When you’re a woman who opens the newspapers, it’s all about your struggles and how men need to be better to make life easier for you. When you watch a movie or TV show, there’ll probably be a female character getting revenge on the jerk and sexist guy and making a speech about how much better and smarter women are than those brainless guys, how they’re the ones who truly run the show. Women certainly de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:06 AM
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The best example of that was when someone created a thread on the Askwomen sub about which male problems they don’t take seriously or have no empathy for. When someone created a similar post about which female problems they don’t take seriously on Askmen, it was taken down almost instantly. Reddit is very protective of women. As are most social medias. Shame so many of them fail to see that, even when they’re actually included in the protect groups by admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:23 PM
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r/MensLib is also majority male Extremely disputable. Have you seen the subreddits that overlap the most with MensLib? The female population there is significant. There’s a reason people call MensLib controlled opposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:17 PM
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She still finds consistent work as consultant and has a say in the industry. And those who hire her also believe her ideals, naturally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 08:36 PM
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For the vast majority of people, being in shape means having an above average physique and being active. It doesn’t matter if so many Americans are overweight and the bar is so low, no one is gonna look at a skinny guy who doesn’t hit the gym and say he’s in shape. I agree, not being overweight isn’t as hard as some want you to believe. But your definition of “being in shape” is weird. To have an actual built physique isn’t really as easy, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:17 PM
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I wouldn't claim 'being in shape' as unrealistic. Dudes don't like obese chicks either. I don’t know why you put those two as things that are remotely comparable. Expecting someone not to be obese is not the same as expecting someone in shape. The effort it takes for the average person to not get fat isn’t comparable to the effort it takes to actually having an attractive physique as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:06 PM
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There’s very clearly one in gaming journalism. And the gaming industry itself is very unwelcoming to those who do not adhere to “progressive” beliefs. But I would say the agenda in gaming is much more subtle than, let’s say, Hollywood. But I think it’s only a matter of time before things get worse. And let’s not forget that feminists like Anita Sarkeesian, who knows nothing about games, can still get working gigs in the industry as consultant. If the likes of Sarkeesian don’t have an agenda, I d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 07:49 PM
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I think you’re being extremely generous. Even a 4 can be considered hot by groups and groups of men if she gets fit and puts some makeup, from what I’ve seen. On the other hand, when I see people talking about a man who is attractive (attractive enough to stir up conversation), he’s usually at the very least a solid 7 (barring extremely niche circles that are open to other tastes, as they’re outliers). And a much more solid beauty than the beauty of lots of women who are considered attractive, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:19 PM
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Sure, I could be wrong. And I’ve probably been before. But I don’t think I usually am. When I see anonymous testimonies that appear to contradict my own experience and go deeper in search of objective metrics, it usually supports what I previously thought. Things like dick size, height, earnings. Usually one of these things, if not all of them, is involved when I see men swearing they live a “chad” life despite not being attractive or that they land women who are hotter than they are. It rarely …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:39 PM
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I’m betting you’re underestimating you beauty by one point or two. Also, bear in mind that women have much more tools to improve their appearance than you. No one is really arguing that you need to have a Henry Cavill style of conventionally attractive face to be considered a chad. There are other physical aspects other than face that can elevate your sex market value. I’ve seen guys saying or being told they’re lucky to be with a certain woman, when in fact they were pretty much on the same lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:23 PM
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Do you, though? Naturally, you know more about your experiences than I possibly could, but I also observe a tendency to overestimate women’s appearance and underestimate men’s. Including from guys who swear they’re ugly when most metrics say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 04:07 PM
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It’s funny how you mention this as something exclusive to men, when productions aimed at women are just the same, if not worse. Mediocre plain Jane landing billionaire and attractive guys, love triangles with men way out of their leagues, etc. Sure, there are comedies with losers landing hot girls, like American Pie, but those comedies aren’t even as popular as they once were. If you look at symbols like Thomas Shelby and James Bond, it’s very easy to understand why they can have any woman they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:44 PM
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There’s a push to remove them for men as well Yeah, which is why women these days are so enthusiastic about splitting the bill or having relationships with guys who earn less or the same as them. Except they’re not. They might not want to be housewives, but they still enjoy the provider role. And many other forms of chivalry. men just don’t like it because they view it as emasculating and they look down on things typically associated with femininity and they reject it because they think it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:08 AM
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Not all relationships are balanced in a mutually beneficial way. Specially in this day and age, when there’s a push to remove any kind of gender expectations towards women in a relationship while simultaneously keeping the expectations towards men alive, including among progressive people who denounce gender roles. Men seem to understand that when the leech is a woman Which is far from a rare occurrence, unlike you guys seem to believe. In fact, I’d say it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:51 AM
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That’s because you’ve been socialized in a society that actively encourages you to emphasize female efforts and hold these efforts against men, while simultaneously erasing male efforts. Even worse, twisting efforts and expectations that directly benefited women into oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:30 PM
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I’m not sure that’s the best example. In this case, one friend breaks the “bros before hoes” code, but the guy who should be upset just shrugs it off and stick up with such friendship. If what you mean by “bros before hoes” is men forgiving their friends when they’re disrespectful to them over a girl, then yeah, I see your point. But I don’t think that’s what people have in mind when they say that. What they think about are things like not hooking up with a girl you know your friend is seriously…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:16 PM
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What makes you assume that the “hoes” are worth it? Honestly, it seems you’re projecting your own values here. Weren’t you who said you are openly religious and marriage driven in another thread? People of such background often see friendships are merely means to an end, something momentary. But that’s not necessarily the case for everyone. And if you truly value a friendship, why not put it above a random chick? The motto is “bros before hoes”, not “bros before the woman I love” or “bros before…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:29 PM
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I think it’s because, despite how crazy these girls are and how much trouble they’ll cause these guys by the end of their relationship, they make these guys feel desired, in their own twisted way. For men who are constantly in one-sided relationships where it seems he desires his partner way more than she desires him and where he’s the one going out of his way to show his affection, a woman who is actually possessive, texts him all the time and acts jealousy might be the closest to feeling desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:13 PM
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That is the very institutional power they deny to have. How is controlling what children learn not one of the greatest signs of institutional power and control over society?
/r/MensRights21/03/22 10:22 AM
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I trust my life experiences as a bisexual man more than someone who, in your own words, came to those conclusions via pure conjecture. So you’re relying on anecdote too. But you did imply it. Why else would you say that you’ve heard many times about bisexual men cheating on/leaving their boyfriends? What other point could you possibly have tried to make with that statement? What I truly said: If I am so wrong, then why do I hear so, so many stories of gay men being left by their bisexual partner…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 09:07 PM
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No offense, but it seems to me like you just find bisexual men “icky” and are trying to backwards-justify it. It’s clear you have strong feelings about the subject and is jumping to conclusions about my beliefs and intentions. Bisexual men end up in straight relationships more because there are more straight women than there are gay men. Doesn’t really justify such a huge imbalance when it takes much less effort for a bisexual man to attract a man than a woman. I’ve heard stories of bisexual men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 08:42 PM
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I've heard of a lot of gay guys cheating on each other, but I don't think that makes it rational to not want to date gay men claiming that they're more likely to cheat. I mean, there’s a rampant cheating issue among gay guys. That’s not really hard to see for anyone who spent some time in the community. If you wanna infer that based on your anecdotal experience, rest assured that I’ll take no issue with it. Not sure how much more likely they are to cheat in comparison to bisexual guys, though. N…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 07:09 PM
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Like they'd necessarily want both at once or forever be left wanting? That's not how it works. But that’s not really a part of my argument. I’m talking about bisexual men choosing heterosexual relationships over same sex ones because they offer a sense of normalcy, which can be the source of anxiety for gay men who are dating bi guys and feel like they’re constantly competing with this sense of normalcy their partners are actively giving up to be with them. I’m not really talking about bisexual …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 04:08 PM
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They can choose that. Doesn’t mean they’ll stay true to their choice until the very end. That’s why “My partner and I agreed to not have children, but they changed their mind” is such a common situation in relationship advice subs and forums.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 03:00 PM
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If I am so wrong, then why do I hear so, so many stories of gay men being left by their bisexual partners? Not simply cheated on, but left by partners who proceed to build traditional families with women? Why do the overwhelming majority of bisexuals end up in opposite sex relationships? And no, I don’t buy the argument that it’s this way because they have a bigger dating pool for straight relationships. I could buy it for bisexual women, but not bisexual men. Not when the effort it takes for a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 02:51 PM
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Is it against sending “dick picks” or pictures of genitals in general? If it the latter that’s fine It’s not really fine, because breasts and butt are more common than genitals when it comes to female nudes. So a law which only penalizes genitals opens room for female offenders to get away with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 01:06 PM
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I just wanted to say that I don’t believe not wanting to date bi men necessarily translates into biphobia. I’ve spoken about it here on this sub before, but can’t find my comment. But to sum it up, I do find bisexual men attractive because they seem, on average, to have less attachment to their sexuality as an identity and to the LGBT world (and that appeals to me, because even though I’m gay, I never managed to warm up to, feel accepted or even enjoy LGBT culture) and I wouldn’t necessarily ref…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/22 12:18 PM
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I heard that Jewishness, at least in theory, welcomes criticism, healthy debate and what not, of its theology They do seem to be more open to diversity of thought regarding Judaism as a religion itself. There are Jews who believe the religious aspects of Jewishness but don’t necessarily believe in the existence of afterlife, there are atheist jews who participate of religious rites. And this heterogeneity doesn’t seem really shocking to them and is capable of existing in the same spaces and circ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 11:20 AM
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Academic spaces are not really as diverse as people people in academia like to believe, the same way diversity of existence and thought can often flourish in places frequented by people of lower income and with less formal education. A similar dynamic can sometimes be observed between left and right as well. Despite priding itself of its diversity, I get the felling that diversity of thought is much less welcomed in left-leaning spaces than it is in right wing ones these days. That doesn’t mean …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/22 12:50 AM
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I don’t wanna play oppression Olympics, but it’s baffling that they wanna make a report about reproductive coercion without including those who are probably the greatest victims of it. Men can poke roles at condom and stealth, sure, but women have total control over most contraceptive methods. And much more control over what happens if such methods fail. And the guy is completely at her mercy, without a similar choice to avoid parenthood if she decides to have the baby. What I get from this arti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/22 06:44 PM
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Biology isn't fair which sucks but I didn't design people so Is that so? Then why isn’t that a valid argument when feminists are advocating for taxpayers to fund hygiene products for women (including men who don’t benefit from it) or for state-enforced child support collection? Or even better, why shouldn’t there be discrimination in the hiring process, considering it’s much more advantageous to hire a man who will never get pregnant over a woman? Biology isn’t fair, you know? So why should we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:07 PM
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You’re full of shit. Abortion is legal in Ukraine. Just because there’s hostility against LGBTs, doesn’t mean there’s hostility against women. They have even more legal rights than men, like retiring earlier and not having to subjected to a draft to earn their citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 12:56 PM
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This caricatured portrayal of men is also more often than not a tool to elevate the female characters, the way I see it. That’s why I usually go to Japanese animation when I wanna see good male characters these days. Even when the portrayal of men isn’t outright bad and caricatured in Western productions, there’s still a great deal of ego-stroking towards the female audience, where two or more female characters ramble about how they’re the ones who run the show and how much smarter and more civi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 12:02 PM
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Being accused of sexual assault or domestic violence by more than one woman doesn’t mean a man is guilty and that we should throw presumption of innocence out of the window. That’s all I want to say. It’s infuriating how this line of reasoning is being used to publicly condem men going through accusations. Just like its even more stupid predecessor (“WHy WoUD ShE LiE?”), it assumes all women have good intentions and that women are incapable of joining the accusation bandwagon for personal gain a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 11:26 AM
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What’s more ironic is that if you look at issues where there’s a great proportion or even parity of male victimization, like domestic violence, men will still be routinely erased. But black women get to be included in the talks about police brutality, even when their victimization is much lower than the victimization of even white men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/22 09:45 PM
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And the same can said about abusive relationships. At no point they stimulate the victims to reevaluate some patterns and ask themselves why they get in abusive relationship after abusive relationship. Like, it’s one thing to have an unilaterally abusive relationship once, but when you’re in your seventh, maybe there’s some reevaluation to be done? There’s gotta be a middle ground between victim blaming and outright leniency/complete removal of agency of the victims. And I do think this applies …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/22 10:34 AM
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Oh, good to hear. Didn’t know you could lock your own comments in certain subs. I guess I’m just too used to things being outright censored by mods.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:42 PM
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Any idea why your comments about this study on r/TheMotte got locked? I’m not very familiar with the sub, so I hope it’s not the old problem of mods censoring anything remotely critical of their pet ideologies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 08:36 PM
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So you come to this sub in the hopes of providing enlightenment, but you’re not even aware of some of the most highlighted problems in this and other similar communities? I could see you choosing to ignore the male right to choose when it comes to parenthood, because that’s a difficult concept to wrap your head around after years believing that reproductive rights are something for women only. But to say that men have the right to bodily integrity already and fully ignore issues that are so obvi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 10:04 AM
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You know what’s funny? I wonder how many of them actually find men like this attractive. Women like those in the comments certainly love to applaud men who are apologetic about their own existences on the internet. They might befriend men like this, no doubt, but could they ever find men like these attractive? I bet the overwhelming majority would not. That’s the irony here, they are fostering a kind of behavior that will make these men unappealing as romantic interests. And a whole generation o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 01:10 AM
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You must care about female issues to be considered a good man, but if you’re a woman you can afford to just care about your own issues without having your morals and values questioned. How is that fair?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 12:59 AM
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In between equal pay for equal work, fair employment, and the fight for maternity care, circumcision isn't a feminist issue. There are feminists that are against it but it's not one of their causes. So you’re telling me that the movement that’s constantly demanding (not asking nicely, demanding) male allyship and telling men to go out of their way to call out abusers and harassers, to protect women and become better men for the sake of them can’t even be bothered to advocate against something as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/22 12:50 AM
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i understand that men are stronger and have the responsibility to protect women.. No, they do not. Specially not OP, who isn’t even attracted to women in the first place. So why does he or any other man have the responsibility to go out of his way to protect women that they don’t even know? It’s one thing to say that everyone has a responsibility to try to live in a way that’s respectful to those around him (not just women), which is reasonable. But the idea that men need to lay down their lives…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/22 10:11 PM
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Sad thing your story would be co-opted as an exclusively LGBT issue, not a male one. Even though lesbian women wouldn’t have faced the same difficulties.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/22 03:56 PM
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Not only that, but people who also cheer the sacrifices on the Ukrainian side like it’s a fucking movie, like all of those men actually had a choice. It doesn’t matter if they’re fighting a worthy cause, I can’t celebrate the sacrifice of people if I have no idea if they did it willingly. It’s also extremely upsetting to see the warm welcome of female refugees/children in Poland, in a way. Not that I think it’s a bad thing to receive refugees well, mind you. But how many of those people cheering…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/22 11:09 PM
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I don’t know what’s worse, guys who put out messages like this (where they’re usually the outlier, the one good apple in a basket filled with rotten apples) in search of approval or if it’s women who need their egos stroked to such extent that they need to constantly hear the verbalization that all men are awful and responsible for everything that’s wrong in the world, whereas they deserve collective absolution for being a part of the good gender. Using collective guilt against women means incel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/22 11:57 AM
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But the thread is still highly upvoted and awarded, which means people actually agree with the message in the title.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/22 11:45 AM
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It’s funny how removing the agency of people because it’s in the best interest of a country facing hardships is only justifiable when it comes to men. So because men are stronger, it makes sense to remove their agency to maintain the sovereignty of a country? So wouldn’t it make sense to remove the agency of women and conscript them to bear children in places with a declining population in order to keep the economy stable as well? But such thing would never be allowed and, unlike removing the ag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 10:26 PM
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I didn’t put any words in or mouth nor did I accused you of necessarily being like the example I mentioned. I’m not talking specifically about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:49 PM
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I personally am very unattracted to men who view all conflict as inherently bad. I have had boyfriends say I’m “crazy” or a “bitch” for sticking up for myself, even when it’s casual and appropriate I mean, it depends. I agree that people who are overly agreeable and avoid any kind of conflict can get on your nerves, regardless of gender. But if what you mean by sticking up for yourself is “picking fights I normally wouldn’t because there’s a man by my side to be my champion”, then I heavily disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:21 PM
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Women are not men, looks are not the end all/be all of attraction I’m not saying that you’re specifically saying it, but one thing I see many women wrongfully assuming is that just because men are, on average, more visual than women, that it means they’ll only be attracted to top tier women. That’s not true. They find such women attractive, sure, but they also find women in their own league or even below attractive too (just like you find men who are not conventionally attractive hot, according …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:02 PM
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Words of someone with a dead bedroom. Looks fade and there are more important things, I agree. But if you don’t even feel sexual attraction to your goddam partner, I don’t see how that can be a fulfilling relationship (unless both of you have a really low libido).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:19 PM
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They are USUALLY more supportive of father’s rights and presumption of innocence in particular.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 01:06 PM
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They also tend to be more averse to presumption of innocence when it comes to sexual assault cases, to deny the existence of false rape accusations and be more opposed/indifferent towards the rights of fathers, so it’s really not that black and white (at least outside the U.S).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 12:16 PM
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It’s the perfect application of motte-and bailey. Show them the parts of your movement they’d like, conceal the ones they’d disagree with. Another sub that sometimes is apologetic when it comes to radfems is Stupidpol (not to the same extent as TiA, though), which is also ludicrous, considering that they’re Marxists and that radfems have a history of collaboration with conservative forces that are against everything that people on that sub stand for. Not to mention that I don’t really know how s…
/r/MensRights03/03/22 12:08 PM
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Sad thing that TumblrInAction has been slowly hijacked by radfems now that they’ve lost their home (GenderCritical and PinkPills). They’re just trading one idpol for another. Those who don’t know better about radfem beliefs buy their act just because they’re against the specific kind of idpol that the sub dislikes. In reality, most radfems would agree with the title of the article in this link. Even more so than feminists from other branches.
/r/MensRights02/03/22 10:18 PM
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It’s funny how the guy is ALWAYS tall is testimonies such as this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:42 PM
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That whole "rape is worse than murder" bullshit, ugh. Exactly the kind of complete crap I've heard before. I had this exact same discussion with my mother yesterday. She didn’t say those words out loud, but I could sense it in the way she reacted to this news we were seeing. The rape part seemed to shock her more than the murder. You know, I think this perspective stems from the perception of rape as something that disproportionately or exclusively affects women. Another byproduct of the pro-fem…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/22 04:15 PM
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It’s amusing how radfems try to sound reasonable and persecuted when they’re out of their echo chambers. As soon as people turn their backs, they go back to their usual bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/22 11:01 AM
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Because they don’t love them as much as they love their own lives. This imbalance is a fundamental part of most relationships. Incredible how the “empathetic gender” can keep getting away with it. Imagine leaving fathers, brothers, husbands and sons behind like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:39 AM
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Lots of them are running. So funny how the “empathetic gender” has no problem leaving their husbands and sons to die. And some call this shit love. Also, women have the option to either stay or leave. The same ability to choose isn’t offered to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:22 AM
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Where can I make a donation to shut your mouth?
/r/MensRights26/02/22 08:15 PM
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Good news!!!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 12:43 PM
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I saw people linking this awful study on Menslib today. It always comes back to surface. Unbelievable. I thought about linking this refutation, but I’m not sure it’s worth the trouble. They’ll just dismiss it as soon as they see the name of the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/22 07:28 PM
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Empathy is about performance. Yeah, I’m pretty sure women are very good at it. But in the end of the day, it doesn’t mean shit when it comes to easing the burden of those who are suffering or in danger, because empathy doesn’t directly translate to ability to take action. And when it comes to taking action, well, who’s really the gender putting their lives on the line to save people when you open the newspapers? In wars, natural disasters, dangerous jobs, jumping at train tracks to save children…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:19 PM
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A cherry-picked example. There are many combinations here. Getting punched by a guy in a fight is much better than having to deal with a false accusation from a woman in my book, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:01 PM
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or do you believe all women are evil and spiteful and would ruin a person’s life for sport? No, I don’t. The same way I don’t believe every man is a smooth brained brat who will beat the shit out of whoever displeases him for sport. But those kind of people do exist. The difference is that people have no problem recognizing examples of bad men (on the contrary, many assume that such men are the rule), whereas they struggle to accept the possibility that women can be malicious too. And by activel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:56 PM
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So what’s really the point you’re trying to make here? That men are bad because they harm others with their own hands, but that a woman acting maliciously isn’t as condemnable because she uses proxy violence and gets others involved (including other women, not only men)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:49 PM
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I mean, yeah, but the same way a man can resort to aggression, a woman can much more effectively use her social standing to cast someone to ostracism and throw an angry mob at you. Or even use institutions to fuck you royally. It’s that old cliche about the difference between female bullying and male bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:35 PM
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Not sure about that. Depending on how bad, I’d rather have my ass handed to me in a single day than dealing with the consequences of being canceled and ostracized for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:19 PM
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Honestly, I think you’re cherry-picking. Most subs would condem that kind of behavior. For example, a woman made a post (I think it was on OffMyChest or TrueOffMyChest) today talking about how her boyfriend peed inside her during sex, even though she had previously stated that she wasn’t interested in such kinks to him. Most comments were calling that sexual assault. And that’s not even as bad as putting your cock in someone’s ass without consent in my book (or could be. Depends on who you’re as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:07 PM
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What’s do you gain by calling your gender “scrotes”? Tell me about having zero self respect. FDS is avoiding abuse Nah, they’re abusers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:59 PM
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Because they're most likely afraid of him, There’s zero accountability for women in the minds of guys like you. A woman can’t possibly defend a shitty guy because she’s shitty herself, but because she’s afraid. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:57 PM
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Huh, what a coincidence. I just cringed hard right now watching Ukrainian Foreign Minister, Dmytro Kuleba, pulling the “including women and children” in the UN right now while talking about the tensions between Russia and Ukraine. Yeah, he’s certainly speaking to the right audience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 03:36 PM
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I always feel like a lot of it comes down to choosing the right aspects to uphold a supremacist agenda. “The more empathetic gender”, “the fairest gender”, etc. Like yeah, if you highlight this kind of emotional intelligence in the very abstract field of words and feelings, I don’t doubt women will perform better than men. But they also like to sweep the field of action under the rug, where men are notoriously willing to put their lives on the line to help people. A willingness that society bene…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 01:58 PM
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I’d like to believe that. I really would. But feminist or not, I think most people operate under a framework where institutions are designed to benefit men by default. So courts being stacked against them is a huge hole in such worldview. The other day, my mother watched a Netflix series called Maid (I think someone even made a critic of this show on this sub, about how bad the male characters are) and seemed genuinely convinced the US courts are biased against women when it comes to custody bat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 01:35 PM
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Probably equal child custody or divorce in general. Really? Because I find those issues very hard to talk about. Outside of circles such as this one, I see many people refusing to acknowledge that there’s a problem in courts when it comes to that. Even in well informed circles. I see some very disingenuous arguments being used to deny these problems and uphold the status quo, like “the most fitting parent gets custody”, “men don’t get custody of their kids because they’re not interested” or “mos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 01:03 PM
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Maxillofacial By the pictures of it, it seems to be something for people who are extremely fucked up already, which is not the case for most people. Also, hair transplant is not as simple as most people make it seems to be. Most people have no idea what it actually entails. Long term, it’s not nearly as effective as people like to believe. And not everyone can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:21 PM
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It’s not the only country where people can end up in jail for failing to pay child support, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 06:55 PM
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Curious fact now, there’s a new stalking law here in Brazil. The sentence will be increased by half if the crime is committed against children, elderly people or women. Everyone but adult men, that is. Which further solidifies the status of men as less important than women in the eyes of the law.
/r/Male_Studies21/02/22 02:55 PM
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You can’t really say it’s irreversible when there haven’t been any attempts to mitigate it at all (quite the opposite, actually).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:45 PM
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It’s not that it’s irreversible, it’s just that society isn’t as interested and willing to call out female shallowness and inconsistencies as they are with doing it to men. I believe most women are proponent of concepts such as equality, emancipation, freedom from gender roles, etc. If more people actually pointed out how hypergamy is at odds with such concepts and called out the hypocrisy of those who advocate for them, but uphold traditional gender roles for men, I genuinely believe things wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:38 PM
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Thus this leads to an important question, what's the point of being with a woman who makes more than a man monetarily in a said relationship, if the ever present hypergamy prevents her from marrying him, in most cases? I mean, it really isn’t a problem unless she chooses it. There’s nothing preventing her from choosing a man who earns the same or less than she does. She just won’t get to experience the same increase on her quality of life as a less successful woman who marries a much more succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:27 PM
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if it means women don’t have to deal with some NVM/LVM who won’t contribute anything to the relationships Even these guys contribute more to a relationship than the average woman, though. Even the worst-performing man contributes more than the average woman. And certainly contributes way more than any woman who is a proponent of FDS. Luckily, more people are realizing it. Edit: also, what’s the point of participating PPD if you’re gonna block people to have the last word?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:54 PM
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Nah, cosmetic surgeries aren’t nearly as effective for men as they are for women. Nor acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:42 PM
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Men from the 30th to 90th percentile will most likely still struggle to get solid amounts of female attention, but end up having a wide array of areas to improve on (looks, warmth of personality, earnings potential, etc.). It's a brutal game for them, but there is light at the end of the tunnel! For those below (as well as for women in general), focusing on looks is your best bet. What if focusing on looks is simply not a possibility? People can’t simply change the very fabric of existence or be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:35 PM
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That’s because you’re associating malice to the most in your face manifestations of it, physical violence, bullying, etc. Attractive people have much more subtle displays of their own malice. Like pretending they didn’t know their less attractive friend was into someone before they hook up with such person just to assert domination. Or expecting preferential treatment in certain situations. These power plays are usually much more visible to those of the same gender as the attractive person, so b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:57 PM
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We also see this is in our social narratives about domestic and paid work. Which is another area research seems to be biased Infuriatingly so. What many time use surveys consider “unpaid labor” is extremely questionable. Things like “talking to your children”, “playing and walking with them”, shopping (which could entail any kind of shopping, really), etc. It really does feel like a blatantly obvious way to inflate numbers and give women the upper hand over men in the victimhood narrative. Why t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/22 03:42 PM
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"Sure, I can easily get someone to have mindless sex with, I don't think that's very valuable". Women have an easier time having an experience with someone, but for a truly fulfilling relationship you need a special person, in that sense it doesn't matter that much. What they don’t tell you is that your ability to have “mindless sex” is directly proportional to your chances of finding a serious relationship. The likelihood of finding someone special is much higher for someone who can find “mindl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:59 PM
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And where do you live that sluts are being expelled from college for being sluts? I don’t know what world people sold you, but wake up. Most of my friends are “sluts” and no one gives a shit. In fact, I’m pretty sure they have much more freedom to talk about their dildos and sexual experiences on their social medias than a man would. You can’t really compare being a slut to being accused of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:52 PM
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It’s extremely disingenuous to compare having relationships with ups and downs to having nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:31 PM
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Yeah, jail must suck so much for them. Ohwait... There's no jail involved. So it’s ok to be falsely accused as long as you don’t end up in jail? It’s ok to expelled from your college? It’s ok to lose your future? It’s ok to have everyone you know turning your back at you? You’re so hellbent on offering justice to the victims of sexual assault that you’re willing to trample over innocent guys and still minimize what they went through just because it didn’t end up in jail, zero fucks given. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:12 PM
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I mean, there’s no shortage of Title IX horror stories and wrongful convictions in actual courts (also, one of the things about false accusations is that the repercussions go well beyond court). Feminists have been trying to reduce burden of proof or even have separate courts for sexual assault for years. The fact that such endgame hasn’t been achieved doesn’t erase the legions of people who support such thinking in all levels of society. If I were wrong, sentences like “Believe all victims” and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:06 PM
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This is only an issue because the biggest beneficiaries of such policy would be men (and women who commit should fraud would be the ones getting the short end of the stick). People are more than happy to welcome policies that might endanger presumption of innocence when it comes to protecting women and children. That’s why so many people are supportive of Apple scanning people’s phones in search of child pornography. That’s why there are so many people who believe it is a good thing to reduce bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:30 PM
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You're cherry-picking, considering there's way more listed than those few things. The link you provided is literally what I’m talking about. And yeah, there’s a lot more listed and a lot more things that are equally questionable. [Off-topic opinion: "Playing with your children" is actually one of the most important domestic things to do if you got kids.] Indeed. But to put it in a survey to make a point about “unpaid labor” and somehow imply that that’s remotely comparable to have an actual job …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 02:32 AM
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And I’m supposed to just take his word for it? 💀💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:37 PM
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None of the studies I have read include the examples you listed as childcare or housework. It includes cooking, cleaning, laundry, buying groceries/household items, vaccuuming, planning and organization (most women buy gifts for their husbands family members, lol) restocking. It includes any childcare (their laundry, food, cleaning for their area/things, organizing and planning things for them) and pet care. These things are PERSONAL care related and some socialization tasks aimed for developmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:30 PM
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That is the part of the point yes, it was addressing female leadership which is a traditionally male role. Except the part where you make it look like women and only women are judged more harshly by omitting the other side of the coin (that men are judged more harshly than women in roles that are typically feminine). A very common tactic among feminists, highlight what’s bad for one gender and sweep what’s bad for the other gender under the rug. “female police chiefs and male women’s college pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:55 PM
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And the worst thing is, it doesn’t matter where you live, this narrative is omnipresent. Women from first world countries are some of the safest beings in the history of the world and even so they still swear they’re hostages in their own homes, as you can see in places like the UK, with the whole hysteria that takes place whenever a woman is murdered there, despite how rare it is. That’s the response to the Sarah Everard case in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:26 PM
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Female leaders are more harshly scrutinized for similar mistakes The study that’s provided in the article itself strongly disproves the narrative you’re trying to make. It addresses the point you’re making about women being judged more harshly. Literally, the article itself and the study say that BOTH men and women are judged more harshly in fields that are not associated with their own gender. Men who are employed in jobs that are strongly associated with women, and vice versa, are more strongl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:58 PM
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They dont take into account the "other side" from the man because most of the time its an excuse. When people work the same amount of hours, theres no reason why the woman should STILL be shouldering that burden. Very rarely this will happen because the guy works insane hours, 99% of the time its not, its the guy being selfish. Nah. Even if we were to assume that both men and women work equal hours, it still would be unfair to take into account all the domestic work women have to do without cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:43 PM
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This whole “men only talk about their own problems to derail the conversation when a woman is opening up” is one of the biggest myths ever created. In reality, it’s always something like this: a woman talk about gender neutral issues like they’re gendered, she say “men have no idea how it feels like [insert a problem that isn’t exclusive to them]”. And then they accuse men of derailing the conversation when they’re rightfully called out for thinking they have the authority to speak for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:58 PM
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Nah, if men were the ones who liked to bitch more, they would’ve been the first ones to create a whole movement dedicated to it, as well as terms like femsplaining, femtears and ovaryacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:50 PM
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What’s more difficult for them? I don’t think I said that. But where I live, many women think it’s easier for men to get vasectomies than it is for them to tie their tubes. But the same that’s required of women is also required of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:47 PM
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I kinda see where you’re coming from, but you gotta understand that the reason women manage to pull this and men do not is because they have an obscene amount of in-group bias, unlike men. Not only that, but they have the keys to something that men value above all else: the sexual/dating market. And the ability to collectively close the doors to such market for those they deem unworthy. So let’s say I’m a woman who’s unhappy with the amount of domestic chores I have compared to men. I have all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:43 PM
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There isn’t really any other option that is as effective. Specially if you’re a man. If you don’t use condoms, you’re completely at her mercy and her own birth control methods. And if you’re a woman who doesn’t want kids, tying your tubes is certainly a lot better than dealing with the cost and maintenance of other contraceptive methods. There’s no need to be so overzealous about the potential of people regretting in the future. It’s their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:29 PM
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If that’s what they want, sure. But it’s not that simple. For example, women often complain about how hard it is to get their tubes tied where I live, but the same that’s required of them is required of men as well: to have 25 years old, 2 children and consent from your partner. I also don’t really understand why doctors make such a big fuss about it. Maybe I’m biased because I don’t plan to have kids, but like, if someone gets a vasectomy or get their tubes tied and later regrets it, what’s rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:56 AM
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Honestly, I’ve rarely seen women being blamed for their partners’ infidelity. I’ve also rarely seen them being made fun of for that as well. The obvious exception are women who forgive their cheating partners again and again or those who blame the mistress but not the guy who’s cheating. Those are made fun of, specially by other women. On the other hand, people really like to make fun of guys who get cheated on regardless of context, specially other guys. I also get the impression that women ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:05 PM
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WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO IT???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:55 PM
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I mean, if you think about it, abortion is legal in a good chunk of the US. They certainly have it a lot better than many other countries. Still, feminists wouldn’t shut up about it, even before the whole situation with the Texas bill. I’ve even seen fucking European feminists from countries where abortion in completely legal making a fuss about abortion, even though it’s fucking legal already in their countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:43 PM
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That’s the deal, though. How can anyone expect to have the freedom to operate outside the status quo without being judged while simultaneously enforcing the status quo when it comes to the opposite gender? The validity of such lifestyle will always be questionable. No matter how much these women try to sell it as “personal preference”, they don’t get to demand that men live in a way they’re not willing to live themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:47 PM
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Women are pretty much the greatest enforcers of female genital mutilation. Does that make it less of a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:18 PM
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Right to hold public office, get student loans and vote without having to sign up for the draft. Right to genital integrity. Maternal surrender. Right to exclusive education and work programs. If you get out of the US bubble, things get even more dire. Right to early retirement in several countries. Right to have the violation of their bodies recognized as rape by law. Right to exclusive government aids. Longer sentences for murderers who kill women than murderers who kill men (which are femicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:14 PM
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I think their experiences are a really interesting way to show the other side of the coin, as many people sadly aren’t inclined to hear the experiences of cis guys. However, I gotta say that it frustrates me a great deal to see that a lot of these trans guys don’t necessarily seem bothered by the misandry of so many women and feminists, but they’re more concerned about the fact that they’re not exempted from it for being trans guys (who can easily pass as cis), which is a huge hypocrisy in my op…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:04 PM
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Well, the problem here is that you're dogmatic that banning abortion isn't oppression. I mean, you could say it’s oppression. I just disagree it’s about controlling women. People who are against abortion are usually so because they believe the concept of soul, so they’ll inevitably see it as murder. It’s a female issue, but in the eyes of those who are against abortion, it’s about saving lives, not controlling women’s bodies. Women have less rights, less money, less literacy and less land owners…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:46 PM
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They must be the first oppressed group in history to live longer lives and have more legal rights than their oppressors then. Also, it’s curious how I’ve never seen an oppressor willing to put their life on the line for someone they oppress or even provide for them. No matter how much you guys try, women aren’t black people and there’s no way to compare the issues they face with something like racism. Gender is much more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:33 PM
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Women are never encouraged to change for men's benefit, not to the same extent. We are happy to tell men struggling in the dating market to chang their entitled, toxic attitudes, to lose weight, get a haircut and learn how to engage with women. RP exists partially because of this. But women themselves demand men offer them more than they are willing to give in return. It’s always implied that women are perfect by default. These advices always assume that women are in a good shape already, that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:27 PM
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If men don’t want to be masculine then don’t be. Same with women and femininity. Here’s the catch, though: men don’t have the same freedom to pick and choose the gender roles they like without repercussions, because women overwhelmingly demand traditional masculinity, whereas there are markets for whatever form of femininity they want for themselves. Going for non-traditional forms of masculinity entails exclusion from the dating market for most men. Women are largely turned off by men who propo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:00 PM
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In some situation, men are treated worse than women. For example in Switzerland men's retirement age is higher. MRAs point out the unfair treatment and demand equal treatment. Some feminists cry that raising women's retirement age is oppression, and will only accept equality if it involves lowering men's age instead (which the country may not be able to afford, so less likely to happen). This is apparently called Nirvana fallacy. It’s one of the many tools that feminists use to maintain a status…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 07:12 PM
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If you want my perspective at all, I have a very very hard time with "male advocates" when the only time any "advocacy" about the plight of men in our society is brought up is when it is a response to a conversation about women issues or in response to "feminism" and they feel the need to hi-jack the discussion because it seems (from my perspective) that they are angered by the subject being societal issues women face. But wouldn’t you also react the same way if male advocates started gendering …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 04:02 PM
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respect You can’t restore something that never existed in the first place. And even if had existed, what about men who don’t identify with values such as sacrificing yourself for the sake of others or providing?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 09:44 AM
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It’s a bit similar to what happens in my country, Brazil. It’s often mentioned by feminist sources how much more vulnerable women are at home. The percentage of female homicides that happen at home is higher than those of men (39% vs 15,9%), but that’s not because women are more likely to die at home than men, but because they’re much safer everywhere else, so the number of female homicides at home naturally make up a bigger portion of the numbers of total female homicides, whereas male homicide…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 11:56 AM
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Same with the gender pay gap, now women out earn men up to the age of 35, this will lead to more stay at home dads Nah, this will lead to more and more people being single, not SAHD. People aren’t interested in giving men freedom to earn less than women. Men earning more than their partners is still an unspoken requirement in relationships, even among those who advocate against gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 01:44 PM
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I think this is sadly one of those things that will have to get worse before it gets better. Because the way things are currently, there are perfect system in place to punish men who oppose the mainstream narrative. So the majority will either tag along or become apathetic. Otherwise, there are really strong consequences that your average man simply can’t afford. Exclusion from social circles, having an already limited pool of potential partners further reduced, people making baseless assumption…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 11:59 AM
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Because the orgasm gap and free tampons for women in first world countries are more important. Sit down and wait your turn. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 11:23 AM
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But most feminists don't know the statistics or the incredibly disingenuous reporting or political hat tricks to make it seem like women are the only victims. They just see what the media reports - "increased violence against women!". So saying something like "VAWA is utter misandry" means less than nothing to feminists without the explanation and nuance you provide And once again you minimize the damage they cause and let them off the hook. No one here is “uneducated” for not being as lenient a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 09:50 AM
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Black feminism also has a history of misandry and leeching off the struggles of black men, so it should also get the criticism it deserves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 09:32 AM
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So you believe it as awareness but not as law? Sounds extremely contradictory to me. Where are people supposed to draw a line? Besides, how do you think this whole thing started in the first place? In the very abstract field of “awareness”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:08 AM
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The concept of femicide is a gimmick. Yet another symptom of feminist’s constant desire to draw a parallel between their advocacy and the struggle of black people and LGBTs. In the countries where this concept is a thing, you’ll notice that it’s often referred as “women dying for no reason other than being women”. They got envious of how black and LGBT activists could actually claim that there were plenty of hate crimes against them based on their identities, so they decided they wanted to play …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:35 AM
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There are reasons why people are talking about something like femicide - usually it's trying to highlight the risk women face disproportionately to men as far as violent partner breakups and the like. While their actions might be dismissive of male homicide victims by proxy, it isn't misandristic by default. Oh, yeah. Always goes down the same way. Some enlightened saint who knows better than everyone tries to minimize the actions of feminists. And anyone who isn’t as willing to offer them the s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 01:46 AM
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just have to be thin” but it’s true. And even that is too much to ask, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:09 PM
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And part of the seduction is making individuals, especially men, feel that they deserve money they have not earn. Lol. Just lol. This level of projection is something unheard of, coming from a group that vehemently believes they should be payed by the government to clean their own mess at home or take care of their own children. Who believes that men should pay for dates and who would only accept to have a relationship with a man who can provide a more comfortable lifestyle than the one they cur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 10:45 AM
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That’s just one of many tools that women use to keep a status quo that benefits them without actually saying it out loud, managing to avoid criticism in the process. It’s very clever and helps them dealing with the cognitive dissonance whenever it’s time to pay the bill and they just pretend they’re looking the other way or too busy browsing their phones while the guy pays all by himself, despite their tenets about equality and emancipation. It’s just too comfortable and convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:18 AM
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The Loved Ones (2009) A nice movie. If you’re into horror movies, that is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 01:37 PM
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Interesting how the article puts the blame on men for the declining birth rates. That’s how it’s gonna be, always. It’s men and only men who’ll get the blame for this and it’s men who are going to be targeted by such campaigns and told that they need to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:13 PM
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For instance we want an end to the draft, not women included in it. That’s not a consensus here. A lot of people have an ideal scenario (no draft for anyone) while simultaneously recognizing that it’s not feasible for certain countries to abolish the draft currently, so female inclusion in the draft would be a fairer and non-discriminatory scenario, as opposed to male only. Just because a proposed solution to mitigate a problem isn’t the ideal solution, doesn’t mean it’s better to do nothing and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/22 04:28 PM
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and if being a gay guy makes people more willing to listen to these criticisms if voiced by me, then fine. I don't think it should, but it likely does. Absolutely. It’s sad how the current state of affairs rely on such nonsensical hierarchies. But if I can make use my “position” to make myself heard among people who would otherwise accuse me of bigotry without even addressing what I have to say, I’m sure as hell gonna do it, as the backlash I’ll suffer isn’t nearly comparable to backlash a strai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/22 01:08 PM
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This might go down like a massive lead balloon, but increasingly my attitude has slowly transmogrified from "No, I probably shouldn't say that" to "Fuck it, say it. See what happens". So here goes. I'm actually not just unattached. At this point I actually tend to want to distance myself from the "LGBT community" as a whole not because they're LGBT but because of the borderline religious worshipping of wokeness there as well as the ever-so-annoying "I'm speshulz" behaviour which seems to run rif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 05:50 PM
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There are very valid reasons for that, imo. Not wanting to date bisexual men doesn’t necessarily equate to biphobia. It can be a decision made because of negative experiences and insecurities. Gay men are linked by the same fate, the same tastes. The fact that bi men can pick and choose the lifestyle they want is off putting and scary to someone who doesn’t have the same ability. Granted, I’m not gonna say that straight relationships are easy. They have their own set of challenges, specially for…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 10:21 AM
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And what does the average man get for all of this effort? He gets someone who doesn’t put 1/3 of the effort he puts on self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:34 PM
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Dude, you’re from Malaysia, from what I can see in your profile. 5’9 is high for the county. It’s not really small anywhere in the world in my book, except in a few countries, but specially not in Malaysia. It never fails, whenever a guy comes to talk about how all you need to do is up your game, get a haircut or some BS like this, to talk about how he’s successful despite being average, he’s really not as average as he thinks he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:29 PM
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I think most people, men and women alike, aren’t really equipped to tell who is their looksmatch of the opposite gender. Another thing that I often see are guys that don’t have an outright Hollywoodian kind of beauty, but are still “light chads” by all means. They’re successful in getting LTRs and ONS, but they never attribute their success to their good looks. Because guys simply aren’t showered in compliments for their looks the way women are, even women that are way below an attractive man’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:11 PM
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It can definitely work when backed up by evidence. Karen Straughan talking about the difference in reactions and media coverage between the Boko Haram’s kidnapping of boys and girls in the Red Pill documentary is a very good example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 09:07 PM
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I’m not sure how much homophobia is a men’s rights issue itself, but cases where a man is judged or punished more harshly for his sexuality than a woman would be are definitely relevant to our conversations and worth highlighting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/22 09:01 PM
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This is a very good movie!!! And very hard to watch.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 12:16 AM
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When you’re a gay man, you have access to a whole side of the “sisterhood” that is off-limits to straight men. Then you can know true malice. How little they value men and their efforts, the bodyshaming, how callously they reveal every single detail about their boyfriends or hookups’ bodies and sexual performance, how they revel in bashing their partners amongst themselves without even giving them a chance to explain their side of the story, how, as you said, they’re capable of talking cruel thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/22 12:54 PM
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I was in the exact same situation with my group and this dynamic was one of the things that drove me to the MRM. I’d say that a lot of the assumptions that many of these girls make about male groups, male locker room talk and about a world where men stick for each other and condone the abuse of women is pure projection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/22 02:17 AM
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Because while porn and masturbation addiction are acknowledged here, many people oppose how nofap demonizes male sexuality and how much of the rhetoric is dominated by conservatives and radfems (or people who are talking out of their asses). They assume that what’s good for them is good for everyone else. And if you dare question the extremism of such narrative, they’ll say you’re a smooth brained addict trying to justify your addiction. No matter the frequency someone watches porn and masturbat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 12:26 PM
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I’m not for gatekeeping nor do I think the MRM should be a left or right-wing movement, but I don’t really see how social conservatism is compatible with the movement (and as you well put, being right-wing doesn’t equate to being a social conservative). Some points that are often brought by conservative MRAs, like alimony, divorce rape and mothers being given primary custody by default are a direct consequence of the gender roles they so vehemently defend. And their assumptions that there was a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/21 12:18 PM
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I agree, but that’s not the case for left-wing, right-wing or feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 02:44 PM
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I find it curious how left-wing spaces are willing to acknowledge certain problems when it comes to black men (false rape accusations, police violence, court bias, bodyshaming and ridiculously high body standards), but that’s it. They make it a racial issue and act as if non-black men can’t possibly suffer with any of these issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 02:03 PM
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So everything you don’t like is right wing? So the group you belong to can’t possibly be guilty of bigotry, discrimination and wrong thinking? Anyone who is guilty of those things can only be an alt right infiltrator? Sounds very reductive and ridiculously like the worldview of feminists. You don’t get to deflect criticisms about your ideology like this. It won’t fly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 01:54 PM
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I subscribe to the school of thought that we can’t simply revoke someone’s ideology just because the way they behave doesn’t align with the (many) dictionary definition(s) of this ideology. That’s valid for feminism, that’s valid for leftism. So yeah, they’re still left wing individuals. It’s just that the body shaming of men is frustratingly common among them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 01:39 PM
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Not only that, but also the fact that talking about your issues is a huge part of the socialization in female circles. While male socialization seems to be focused on activities that might distract you from your troubles in order to relieve pressure, female circles seem to prefer to actively talk about these issues in order to deal with such pressure (and I just wanted to say that I don’t think one is better than the other, btw. There is a huge push to make men behave more like women, but I don’…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/21 01:29 PM
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Did he mean a male-only party as in a party where only men are allowed? I understood it as a party that focuses only on male issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/21 12:24 PM
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How convenient to name all bad things after men and then proceed to remove all power and agency from women, like men and only men are responsible for the (bad) outcomes of society. Like women have no power when it comes to shaping up social norms and what behaviors are considered desirable in a man or even how a woman should behave. How convenient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/21 03:46 PM
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Chivalry 2.0. They really don’t realize how supportive of gender roles they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/21 12:20 PM
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When they do small dick jokes against guys like Trump, it’s like they don’t even consider the possibility of such jokes impacting negatively a guy that has nothing to do with him. They never once stop to think about how these guys feel. That they might be hurting their own relatives or friends with this kind of bodyshaming. Btw, I wonder where this belief that men with small dicks are responsible for all the evil in the worst whereas guys with big dicks are cool comes from. This is so far from m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/21 12:13 AM
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When I see things like this, I can’t help but getting even angrier thinking about the privileged snakes of the White Feather movement enjoying some tea and taking an afternoon nap in the comfort of their homes, after a campaign to shame men into enlisting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/21 10:16 PM
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You’re again under the assumption that feminism and men’s rights activists have aligned goals, when that’s clearly not true. While some individual feminists here and there can agree with some points made by men’s rights activists, the feminists who have the power to lobby and influence institutions are not interested in acknowledging instances of male victimization. Specially male victimization by women. You’ll have a hard time searching for how feminism, the movement that claims to have monopol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 07:52 PM
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We need mindset. Problem-solving skills. Strategies for smashing limiting beliefs. Grit. Empathy. Skills that we don't have yet. Did you also learn to biohack your body in your hypnotherapy class?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 05:06 PM
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That feminist groups advocate against equal rape law may not help men but their agenda is not based on hurting men but saving women from pressure in law suits Yeah, and I can purposefully run you down with my car if I’m late to work and tell the judge my goal was not to hurt you, but to get to work in time. Would that fly? Alternatively, how would you feel if MRAs started advocating for laws that are evidently harmful to women, even if their goal was to help men, not hurt women? I have seen this…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 04:58 PM
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The Red Pill, incel forums, MRA, MGTOW, all have thriving communities despite flying directly in the face of feminism. The movement that we point to as THE problem doesn't seem to affect toxic men's movements at all! The fact that you lump all of these movements together just shows how ignorant you are about the meaning of each one. Still, about this point, you claim that “toxic men’s movements are thriving” but MGTOWs, incels and Redpillers had their subs banned from reddit, whereas similarly t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 04:19 PM
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There is absolutely a heavy victim mentality in these circles. If there wasn't, no one would be talking about feminism at all. Your premise fails to consider that feminist with the power to organize, lobby and influence institutions/government policies are actively blocking conversations and policies that could address the issues we’re constantly talking about (as shown in the examples above. There are many more) and pretending they have a monopoly on gender equality, that anyone who dares addre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 03:22 PM
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And I still don’t get it. Can someone give me some context on feminist groups attacking mens issue or mental health groups? I have not encountered such things and can’t stand the victimization. So, you come here to say that men’s rights groups are guilty of victim mentality and says we should support feminism, but you haven’t even done your research? https://m.timesofindia.com/india/activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/m.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 02:28 PM
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This is perfectly observable in the way that feminists address things like the wage gap. No matter how many times it’s debunked, it seems like their minds simply delete everything that was said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/21 02:13 PM
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They aren’t capable of reflection and criticism about the movement when it comes to its treatment of cis men. The only reason there’s criticism against TERFs is because they’re transphobic. Their misandry is a nonissue to other feminists, even because it’s also in integral part of every other brand of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:39 PM
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It’s literally the same thing. Most feminists who say that feminism does not mean man hate still believe the same hateful shit that the man haters believe, except in a more palatable version. They still believe young boys are ticking bombs who’ll exploit and rape women by default if they’re not educated (the slogan is “teach boys not to rape” for a reason, as opposed to “educate children about consent” or something”), they still believe burden of proof should be reduced when it comes to rape acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:17 PM
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This is one of the things that annoys me the most. No matter how much you try, you can never truly escape their apparatus. It’s one thing to see such absurdities when I’m actively looking for it or when I know it’s inevitably. But it’s something else entirely when I’m doing something completely unrelated and have to put up with this kind of content. And no one can possibly convince them that having your gender constantly demonized like this, without a single message of positivity, without a sing…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/21 02:23 PM
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I think the thing is that if you truly buy a black and white worldview where men hold positions of power and use such positions to benefit other men at the expense of women, that women are completely powerless and victims of such a pervasive and unilateral oppression that can’t possibly benefit them in any way, that would indeed make them morally superior to their oppressors. And a lot of women operate under this mindset, that they’re justified in their hatred of their oppressors. But gender dyn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/21 01:20 PM
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But in general there's more male privilege than female privilege. Is that so? And how do you measure that? What privileges would you say are available to men but not women, specially in the context of Western Democracies?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 07:15 PM
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Interesting, as usual. I just wouldn’t say that ideology has no place at all in politics, but it definitely shouldn’t have such a prominent role in science as it currently does. I also believe it’s very problematic how we pretend that soft sciences have the same precision of hard sciences. It’s because of this line of thinking that feminists treat you as a denier for opposing concepts like toxic masculinity, as if it’s some clear cut law of physics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 01:18 PM
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Agreed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 10:49 AM
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This whole “no draft” discussion only starts propping up when women potentially get added to the draft. It’s a safe position someone can take advantage of to advocate for the status quo to be kept without actually saying it loud. In the end of the day, the US and many other countries can’t afford to abolish the draft right now and they know it. So they’re basically saying “shut up and take”. The progressive ones, that is. Conservative people straight up tell you that men are expendable and women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 12:39 AM
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The only popular subject I can see men openly protesting for in the streets is male genital mutilation. There are simply too many drawbacks that might scare away men from protesting for other issues right now. In the case of the UK, it’s simply too easy for people to accuse the men protesting of having ill intents simply opposing vague laws that might be used maliciously by some people or the government. The reason feminists can be so aggressive in their approach is because they can afford it. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 11:21 PM
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It sure is a safe and effective way of selling yourself as against the status quo and revolutionary while taking no risk at all. No harm to your academic and career advancement, social circle, love life. All that while not being as against the status quo as they believe they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 07:16 PM
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For a group whose fictional entertainment relies so heavily on the mockery, castration, exposure, shaming and all forms of violence against men for comedic purposes, the woke crowd sure as hell likes to project their fantasies of violence onto others more than they’re entitled to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 02:42 PM
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The most annoying here is that it is too easy for those who support these laws to accuse your of having ill intents for questioning the validity of such laws, when in truth your problem with them is how vague they are. Not to mention how they’re not gender neutral, which in practical terms makes one gender more important than the other in the eyes of the law. We do have similarly vague laws in my country. One of the most recent ones penalizes “any form of psychological damage to a woman that mig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 12:40 PM
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Not exactly. Some societies praised a very specific kind of male body, which wasn’t really feasible for your average man to achieve (and still isn’t, even by today’s standards). Meanwhile, the female bodies that those same societies and many others depicted in their art were way closer to the average woman. I’m not opposed to the idea of there being a biological reason for female bodies being considered more attractive than male on bodies on average by both genders (not mention enhancers like ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:05 AM
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In addition https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3363227/amp/New-trial-ordered-Denver-man-imprisoned-28-years.html
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 09:29 PM
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That’s far from a consensus, even among people who are generally pro-choice, seeing that many support abortion in the early stages of pregnancy, but not in the later ones. The thing is, pro-lifers haven’t been able to prove sentience is the early stages, AFAIK.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 02:10 PM
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Feminism isn’t subjected to the same dynamics of normal politics and it gets to skim through all of the stages without a hint of reciprocity. Not that they’re dealing directly with men’s rights activists in their pursuits, mind you, but in the sense that it’s expected that MRAs and men as a whole support their demands unquestionably. A support that isn’t reciprocated in the slightest. In a way, you could say it’s in conformity with the male gender role. As Gus Frings says in Breaking Bad, “… a m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/21 11:58 PM
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Not OP, but I believe it’s because this argument won’t fly with someone who believes in the concept of soul and that life begins in the moment of conception. To them it’ll just sound like you’re asking for bodily autonomy to kill someone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/21 11:03 PM
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I wonder how the author would feel if she had to be “drafted” to birth more soldiers for America then. You know, for all the dislike I have for tradcon men, they at least advocate for a fantasy world where they would earn status by being the ones putting their asses on the line and shouldering responsibilities. Tradcon women, on the other hand… is there anything more indigestible? Always seeing men as wage slaves and canon fodder to fulfill their fantasies of hypergamy and safety, so that they c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/21 04:45 PM
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This much I can tell you, though: while both men and women are responsible for perpetuating gender roles, it’s only the female role in upholding the gender roles for men that is vehemently denied. I think the average progressive person is even willing to admit some form of male advocacy that very specifically chastises men and only men for upholding male gender roles, which is why places like MensLib are popular among them. But the moment you suggest that women as a group have much more power wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/21 01:05 PM
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Emotional labor is yet another symptom of the transactional nature of most relationships. Yet another instance of feminism actively encouraging women to weaponize their efforts against men, mostly by magnifying female efforts while completely erasing male ones. I mean, we’re talking about the same movement that includes things like “talking to your kids or watching cartoons with them” and all sorts of manipulative shit in time use surveys to make a point about women being subjected to “unpaid la…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/21 10:23 AM
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Jeff Bridges, Matt Damon and Nicolas Cage all married waitresses/bartenders. I’m sure you can find other examples if you look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:05 AM
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Deep down, they’re aware that such inegalitarian view betrays the tenets they live by. Some resort to mental gymnastics to justify it, others to denial.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 09:57 PM
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I think confirmation bias is an even bigger thing on Reddit than it is in other places, specially among the female userbase. Maybe the shy, introverted and academic female nerd who browses Reddit and her girl friends would be ok with things like splitting the bill, but the problem is that they assume that to be the case for every other woman on Earth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 03:08 PM
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It’s also very interesting going to restaurants/bars and seeing that guys are still the ones paying the bills in younger and allegedly more egalitarian couples. I pay more attention to these things now. But Reddit swears to me that most couples go dutch these days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/21 02:47 PM
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That’s very interesting data. I’ll be saving it for future reference.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 08:20 PM
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It’s as already indicated by researches: when researches show that men excel in their performance in a given field, that is seen as something worth censoring, as a problem to be solved. However, when researches show that women excel in their performance in a given field, that is accepted as a fact, as a positive thing. If the roles were reversed, there would already be talks or even policies in motion to mitigate the issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 12:14 PM
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Context: Last year in 2020, boys were explicitly given worse grades for being boys because they couldn't take exams due to COVID-19 and statistically modeled what their grades should have been instead, taking gender into account to keep with the trend of boys getting worse grades than girls on average. I remember this. Now if this isn’t a textbook case of institutional discrimination/sexism, I don’t know what else is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/21 10:42 AM
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It’s exactly what it is. They’re incapable of seeing women as anything other than saints or victims and men as villains who brought their own suffering on themselves in any possible scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 09:24 PM
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This is also very evident in your post, when they say that women fought for body acceptance. This line of thinking is very common in feminists circles, where they assume that all their accomplishments were made in a vacuum, completely ignoring all the support that men have offered to their cause along the years. A support that isn’t reciprocated in the slightest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 05:41 PM
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I realized recently how many of the responses from people who are allegedly moderate and empathetic are just a way of maintaining the status quo. I don’t know if they do it subconsciously or if they’re aware of how their line of thinking is effective in keeping the status quo and the way they benefit from it intact. For example, when we talk about how it is expected that men pay for dates, one of the responses is that the one who made the invitation should pay for it. In practice, that’s just a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 05:29 PM
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This is why I would like more privacy settings when it comes to post history sometimes. In theory, I prefer things being as transparent as they are, but in practice people weaponize your post history against you, even in discussions completely unrelated to gender. And the curious part is that I’ve never seen users being called out for participating of subs like 2X, fourth wave women and the likes (only FDS). It’s only against men’s rights advocates.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 01:27 PM
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It was just blatant, gross misogyny and it’s so hard to find a balance between people standing up for men and hating women. This is a very shitty take, honestly. For all the things you could criticize the Mensrights sub, I don’t know why you chose this hill to die on. There’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting a fictional character who was always a man to remain a man. Specially when you are aware of Hollywood’s subversion techniques by gender and racebending characters, which seldom results …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 11:14 AM
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I mean, if Paul Elam isn’t a known face in the MRM, who else is? I agree that he has no political sway, but he’s popular (but not necessarily liked) by the movements standards. Not popular like Straughan or Farrel, but still popular.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/21 11:07 AM
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I agree in part. Not about KAW, since I believe such things won’t bring anything good to the movement, but that there is a general willingness to give in to the tone policing of the feminist status quo sometimes, even among anti-feminists. This is specially true in moments of fragility, like when Reddit banned the MGTOW subs and several MRAs were like “Look, we have nothing to do with them. We are not women haters, see?”. They’re technically not wrong, but it still bothers how some people were s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/21 10:19 PM
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Gen Z does acknowledge that men suffer with issues like DV and rape (many “woke” and progressive people too, to a certain extent. Except the ones with institutional power, those seem to always deny any instance of male victimization), it’s just that they severely underestimate how often those things happen. Many of them also see the problems men face as “patriarchy and male privilege backfiring”. I’ll feel much more optimistic when we have an acknowledgment of male issues that relies less on vic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/21 08:20 PM
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When it comes to to discussions about masturbation and porn addiction, the NNuters and radical feminists always resort to ad hominen and make all kinds of assumptions about you. If you’re disagreeing with them, it must be because you’re a smooth brained addict who is in denial about your addiction. It’s annoying and very reminiscent of the discourse about substance prohibitionism. Or any prohibitionism, really. They all use the same shaming tactics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/21 11:29 AM
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Yeah, I miss his posts. Hopefully, he’s just taking a break and will be back eventually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/21 01:02 PM
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I checked the original post now and there’s a highly upvoted and awarded comment linking the study, sadly. Some people mentioned the problem with the study, but not in as many details as you did. It’s curious how people go straight into denial mode and accept any shitty study when their worldview is questioned and they’re faced with evidence that there were and still are disadvantages about being male and advantages about being female, that men didn’t hate women back then and still don’t. It’s s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 10:45 AM
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I’m sure it will be very interesting to hear the experts lecturing about patriarchal structures and toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 10:18 AM
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I never really understood why people give so much credibility to those who complain about having desirable features or even material conditions. To me, such individuals are just textbook cases of egocentric people who are completely oblivious to the reality of average or bellow average people. It’s so blatantly obvious how the advantages of conventional attractiveness, high stature, big breasts, big dick and of course money far outweigh the negatives in a society that prizes all those things. I …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/21 12:19 AM
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Even because many of these clubs have strict rules about not touching the female strippers. The same does not apply to male strippers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 11:57 PM
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Mitoza read your comment and is very well aware of how the process works, it’s just that there’s no limit to their bad faith. It’s the same thing feminists do when they argue against family courts being biased against men by saying that most custody disputes are settled outside court, which according to them means that fathers aren’t interested in shared custody. And again, I'd be involved in the discussion if I thought posting this would do anything. But as evidenced by your linking my comment …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/21 11:14 AM
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Ellen is so cringe. She does the same thing to her conventionally attractive male guests. I remember an interview with Chris Evans and Scarlet Johanson where she kept showing pictures of Chris shirtless and asking Scarjo’s opinion. They were both visibly uncomfortable. Henry Cavill’s interviews often go down the same path as well. I wouldn’t bat an eye if the same was done to female celebrities, but we know that’d be outrageous. It’s the double standards that bother me the most. I guess this is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/21 09:04 PM
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What the current situation is, in practice, is basically choice for women and responsibility for men. It doesn't matter if the taxpayers pay for women's choices. It doesn't matter if the child suffers because of women's choices. It doesn't matter if the man suffers because of women's choices. Women still have that choice. But trying to give men the same or similar unilateral decision-making power? Hell no, if you have sex you must be held accountable for any resulting obligation. Be a man and ta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/21 11:41 AM
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They were, but she moved in with him and took the role of primary caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:29 AM
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It sure as hell is legal in my country. In the U.S too, specially under safe-haven. By all intents and purposes, a woman who does not want to be a mother won’t be one, provided she doesn’t inform the father.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/21 12:24 AM
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I have seen this very well with a friend of our family whose ex-wife came back from the dead to take care of him in his final months, conveniently getting remarried to him in the process, in the hopes of getting a generous pension for the rest of her life after he passed. I lost count of how many times I heard this narrative about women being so much more virtuous than men for allegedly tending to their sick husbands. It’s bullshit. Humans are shit. There’s just much more for your average woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:46 PM
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Gender roles for thee and not for me in a nutshell. But apparently all the researchers who came to the same results wasted their time, because Becky and all of her friends from the knitting group and the book club aren’t like this, so it can only be an isolated case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:38 PM
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I won’t really speak for people who are against abortion, but it’s curious how heavily the rhetoric of those who are pro-abortion and in favor of forced fatherhood/child support relies on the same old tale of female hypoagency and male hyperagency. Women have a wide variety of contraceptive methods available to avoid a pregnancy, unlike men, who only really have one. Even so, the pro-choice narrative (who are also in favor of maternal surrender, I presume) offers nothing but utmost support for t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 09:04 PM
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Except maternal surrender is already a thing. Financial abortion is legal if you’re a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 08:38 PM
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It’s a shame that things went down like this, because I thought the movie was very interesting otherwise. While not as good as Ari Aster’s previous movie, Hereditary, Midsommar has an awesome cinematography and the best depiction of psychedelic trips I’ve ever seen in any movie. I actually read the script and as far as I can remember, the whole thing was supposed to be a lot less rapey originally. Unlike in the theatrical version, Christian showed interest in cheating on Dani with one of the vil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/21 10:43 AM
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Have you seen the things that TERFs have to say? I dislike liberal feminists, but even the things they say pale in comparison to what TERFs think of men and their view of patriarchy as almost a male biological imperative, like the desire to oppress women is rooted in men’s biology. They just benefit a lot from their opposition being completely nuts and from the exaggerated recrimination whenever people who aren’t even TERFs try to suggest that it would be unfair to allow trans women into sports …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 03:35 AM
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Indeed. But I urge the moderation to refrain from deleting comments, even if they heavily disagree with it. I understand the option for a more strict moderation, but at the same time, it is a bit too heavy sometimes. I think it’s important to have discussions like this and be coherent with our criticism of feminist subs for censoring all opinions that aren’t on tune with theirs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 10:42 PM
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Specially considering the things they’re teaching in schools these days. If I had a son, no way I’d be alright with him being lectured about this religion in school.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/21 03:57 PM
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Despite some women absolutely despising how some guys deal with rejection, my opinion is that most women out there aren’t really equipped to deal with the kind of explicit rejection your average guy faces out there, which is why they like to play safe with indirect approaches, hints, etc. If he doesn’t reciprocate, at least you can tell yourself that he failed to see the hints you gave or something like that. Being rejected by someone’s lack of action hurts way less than being verbally rejected.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:41 PM
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The female version are the women who say they don’t like gym rats and prefer lean and fit men who aren’t crazy about gym. Except that when you see the guys they’re talking about, they still have bodies that are extremely hard to achieve, which would require you to be a gym rat. They simply have no idea what it takes to achieve and maintain a Hollywoodian male body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:42 PM
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I’d rather be desired for what I look like than desired by what I have, so that comparison doesn’t make any sense to me. No matter how much people try to equate those two, physical attraction will always be more legitimate than materialistic attraction, where you’re just an intermediary between the person you’re interested in and the compensations they seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:22 PM
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Nah, men don’t usually take the same pleasure in humiliating low value women the same way women take in doing it with low value men. They’re indifferent towards them at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:13 PM
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Meanwhile, even the hygiene part is optional for chads. https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jake-gyllenhaal-admits-that-he-doesnt-shower-often/amp/ https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.etonline.com/matthew-mcconaughey-hasnt-used-deodorant-in-over-35-years-his-co-star-reveals-what-he-smells-like%3famp https://www.eonline.com/news/105848/rob-pattinson-s-a-dirty-boy-and-not-like-
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:48 PM
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Sure, but the movie totally expects the audience to find catharsis in Dani’s decision to abandon her boyfriend and join the cult. Like “this girl is joining a murder and manipulative cult, but at least she’ll get more support here than she got from her boyfriend”. Her decision is totally supposed to be a “yass queen” moment and a punishment for Christian. That is even more clear when you see the reactions to the movie, like here or here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 02:56 PM
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I always struggled with the no true scotsman argument, even before I was aware of feminist sophistry. In my teens, I never thought the argument made sense when applied to the Abrahamic religions (or any religion, really). Like, just because bad actors don’t behave the way you’d like someone from your religion to behave, that doesn’t mean they’re not part of the religion. It’s even worse when the actions of those they would disavow were perfectly justifiable within the scriptures. With feminists,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 12:56 PM
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There are many good examples I can think of. But a recent one that is rarely mentioned is Midsommar, where [SPOILERS] the main character watches her boyfriend being raped and thinks he is cheating on her. From her point of view, it indeeds looks like cheating, so no objections here. But the scene is supposed to be the final nail in the coffin of their relationship. It’s supposed to make the audience even more sympathetic towards the female lead and feel the same catharsis she does when she subse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/21 12:35 PM
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Listening does not equate to believing blindly and not having critical thinking. Also, as it’s so often stated, women aren’t a monolith, so some women are obviously much more reasonable than others. I wouldn’t take anyone’s word at face value because of their gender. That’s outright religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:24 PM
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And I won’t take their word at face value and treat them like children. You don’t get to recontextualize a perfectly consensual relationships like this. They consented to sex, there was mutual interest. The fact that such relationships didn’t evolve into something more serious doesn’t change that. Sex is something mutual, not something a man does to a woman. They were not “used”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:14 PM
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They’re not being “used as sex toys”, they’re enjoying perfectly fine and consensual sex with the gender they’re attracted to. Stop revoking women’s agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:05 PM
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Doing the wrong things don't negatively affect attractive men as much Which sure as hell is a nice recipe for the creation of some some of the biggest assholes and sociopaths out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:41 PM
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You make it seem like he’s a moderate gym goer, as opposed to the other guy. He’s absolutely not. That kind of body requires a shitton of work. He’s probably on roids, unless he has very good genes. And on dehydration for his shirtless scenes. An average man would absolutely need to be a gym rat if he ever wanted to achieve that kind of body.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:49 PM
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Lol. Women so often accuse men of knowing shit about female anatomy, but they’re really delusional if they believe guys like Chris Evans have an easily achievable body. It’s always like this. “I don’t like overly muscular guys, I prefer the ones who hit the gym but are not obsessed about it, like [proceeds to mention an actor who’s absolutely shredded, works out all days, has an strictly diet and is clearly on dehydration for his shirtless scenes]”. Some people just underestimate how much time a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:33 PM
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Can you please go back to my original comment and quote where exactly I stated that people who don’t date others who are exactly like them are hypocrites? Edit: also, even though dating someone like you has nothing to do with my original point, despite your insistence, I said: Of course I don’t date people who are carbon copies of me in appearance, behavior, hobbies, nor do I expect anyone to Maybe I didn’t convey what I was trying to say and you thought I was saying I wouldn’t like to date some…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:30 AM
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You are a hypocrite by your own logic How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:24 AM
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I don’t understand your question. What does dating people like me has to do with my point? Of course I don’t date people who are carbon copies of me in appearance, behavior, hobbies, nor do I expect anyone to. My point is about consistency with your ideology. And I indeed try to always be consistent with my values. I don’t like gender roles for me and I wouldn’t place such expectation on a partner as well. Same thing about body standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:57 PM
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Your question doesn’t even make sense. I’m not attracted to women. As for the men I’m attracted, I wouldn’t demand from them things that I can’t bring to the table as well. Women who demand freedom from gender expectations and standards, but put those same expectations and standards on men are hypocrites, no matter how hard you try justify it. It’s about consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:06 PM
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As I said, I’m free to call out the hypocrisy of women who want freedom from gender expectations and standards, but proceed to put equivalent expectation and standards on men. There’s nothing you can do about it. I have no problem with those who aren’t diehard advocates and don’t mind having standards and expectations put on them. The hypocrite ones are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:26 PM
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I can and absolutely will call out their hypocrisy every chance I have. They have a problem with male standards, they don’t get to have standards as well. They want freedom from gender roles? Fine. But they can’t expect men to fulfill their as well. If they fail to follow their own tenets, then they’re hypocrites and their opinions are worth less than horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:18 PM
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I see a lot of that in older couples. The woman takes her natural looks for granted and don’t exercise or anything, whereas the guy does and is involved in hobbies that require physical work, so he ends up aging better than she does. But even among young couples, I find the narrative that the woman is usually more attractive very disputable. And it’s not only among normal people, even if you look at male celebrities, there are plenty with partners who are considerably less attractive than they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:02 PM
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Hmmm, where I live, the man tends to be the more attractive one in the couples I see, which contradicts the opinion of my mother, who keeps telling how many beautiful women are dating unattractive men out there. Doesn’t match my experience, though. I see guys who take very good care of themselves and have nice bodies with women who are clearly sedentary, sometimes even overweight, all the time. Not that I’m complaining, but I don’t really see a young woman who puts that much effort in her body s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:55 PM
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I don’t know who he is, but I saw this on DW news. With a lot of positive reactions and support over the decision to fire him. I didn’t see any evidence in the article, though. Is there anything concrete against him at all? Also, how’s public opinion like?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 09:40 PM
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It saddens to me to see that most people seem incapable of exercising nuance. Hardly anything is "always good" or "always bad" by default. Specially when it comes to things like pornography and sex work. And it feels like it’s getting worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 09:26 PM
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Considering in that in a lot of countries, all developping countries, most of the sex workers are males, often under age. This feels like an absurd claim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 08:54 PM
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Yep. We need nuanced takes and to stay away from extremes. Neither the view of sex work as empowering nor the radfem stance that sex work is exploitative by default are helpful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 08:53 PM
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If he says "I'm not like other guys" he is dealing with internalized misandry. And he is assuming all men are one way. Well, even though I disagree with your statements, you’re at least consistent with your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 12:19 AM
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I don’t think how much you contribute should be a factor when it comes to determining the quality of the public health you get. But I understand what you’re trying to say. It would be a huge talking point of feminism if women were paying more taxes and receiving less healthcare, wellfare and spendings in general, given how effective they are at transactions. In fact, I theorize that the moment women start paying more taxes than men, there will be a push by feminism for government spendings to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/21 12:11 AM
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I distinctly remember seeing news of women in the UK getting their breast implants covered by the NHS. Not sure how often that happens. Believe me, the issue is not frivolous at all. To say that hair loss is not taken as seriously as it should is an understatement. I do wonder sometimes how many suicides are linked to body image issues and no one even knows it, because it’s not really something people are that comfortable sharing. In my own experience, no one knows the problems I have with body …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/21 11:45 PM
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Maybe you should hang out more. And I didn’t say most rejections happen like this, but they’re common enough that it’s worth mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:03 PM
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I’m not getting ews, that was just an example. Guys get brutally reject like this all the time after approaching women politely. It’s socially acceptable to reject guys like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:49 PM
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If you identify as "not like every other girl" then you are still grappling with internalized misogyny. Or they are just young, or pretentious or trying to differentiate themselves from other girls. Maybe all of those. None of that entails hating other women, though. I don’t know how you came to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:17 PM
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Because it has a different meaning. It means that person doesn’t find you attractive enough. The only way I can see those rejections you mentioned being somewhat similar is if you know you’re being rejected by your friends or from a job because you’re not not attractive. Is it so hard to understand how it can affect one’s self-esteem and make them question their worth after hearing the same thing over and over again from multiple people? I’m not saying it’s your problem to solve, just that it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:06 PM
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That’s why I said “in this sense”. I’m not sure why you’re so hellbent on making completely unrelated comparisons. I clearly specified a very particular kind of rejection, which is being rejected because you’re not attractive enough after approaching someone you’re interested in. Specially when it’s socially acceptable to go way beyond rejection and delve into humiliation territory with “ew” and the likes. As women are not expected to make the first move, nor do they seem interested in doing so,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:50 PM
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The burden of making the first move doesn’t fall on heterosexual women. Therefore, rejection in this sense is not something most women can fully grasp. It’s very hard to take seriously the opinions of women trying to minimize something they likely never had to face before, given the comfortable position they can assume in courtship. Multiple rejections do have an emotional toll. Not everyone can just shrug it off that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:34 PM
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You know what else is much more detrimental to democracy? When elected female politicians keep using accusations of misogyny to deflect criticism and avoid accountability. Where I live, it’s rare to see a prominent one that doesn’t use this tool. Even right wingers have realized how useful this is. And they do it to dodge perfectly valid criticism and when they’re treated the same way (or even better) that male public figures have always been.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/21 03:18 PM
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It’s not really about tone, though. It’s just hard for a group with an obscene amount of in-group bias to sympathize with issues that are not their own. It’s even harder for them to tolerate any narrative that doesn’t paint all women in a good light. You know, feminists have always mocked “not all men”, but reality is, most men don’t take issue with generalizations and hostility towards their gender. Some of them even endorse it or actively participate in the demonization of their own gender, sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:48 PM
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There is nothing wrong with thinking that men should pay for dates, be masculine and respectful. It's pretty traditional. There absolutely is when you live by tenets such as “equality” and “freedom from gender roles”. They want a traditional man but don’t want to be traditional women and don’t want men to place any expectation upon them. Gender roles for thee and not for me. People like this deserve no respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:02 AM
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The only reason fem subs are banned sometimes is transphobia. Men are fair game and reddit doesn’t care. They have said so themselves. That’s why FDS is still alive and well and gets to be painted in a positive light light in big media outlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:51 AM
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There’s not much to understand about incoherence. At least MGTOWs and the likes admit their gripes with women and choose to abstain from relationships. Much better than speaking ill of men on the internet all day and still dating one. I have a harder time trying to understand why guys subject themselves to date men-hating women. Zero self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 12:36 AM
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There’s a lot of one-sidedness when it comes to sex. Male pleasure is taken for granted, like having an erection means that he’s necessarily having the time of his life. But I do actually see a lot of women showing interest in prostate stimulation and trying to convince their partners to give it a try. Or at least they say so in conversations and social media, not sure how common it is in real life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/21 05:58 PM
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She just wants to blame men for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:47 PM
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If I lived in Japan or any Asian country? Abso-fucking-lutely, given the other choice. For the vast majority of people, work is only means to an end, not something they actually derive pleasure from. Fatigue, stress and lack of time overwhelm even those who pursue their dream career. What’s the benefit in being the part who allegedly has more autonomy if you have no time to enjoy life outside of work? And I say allegedly because, as I previous stated, many times the housewife has complete contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:43 AM
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Discussions about low birth rates/lack of sex (and about anything else, really) always come down to the same thing: men bad, women good. Except that’s not true. Women in these countries also have strict standards and expect men to vastly outearn them. Either that or that they fully provide them a housewife lifestyle. Like, I hear stories of Japanese men giving their entire earnings to their wives and receiving a small allowance from them to spend on the things they want. In a country where work …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:23 AM
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It’s not that society dislikes femininity, it’s that it’s seen as off-limits to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:51 PM
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Other sources and documentaries seem to infer that it used to be something expected from all men. Apparently, the practice isn’t as widespread as it used to, though, with the increasing number of migrations, conversions and urbanization itself. I also read about girls choosing to undergo the ritual too, but that’s not expected of them. People outside the tribe can participate too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 08:25 PM
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I think she’s referring to tribalistic rites such as the one from the Satere-Mawe tribe .
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 12:42 PM
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The point is that not all these things are due to 'social expectations'. Indeed, to call being forced at gun point by the government to go to a hostile environment and fight merely a social expectation would be an understatement. That is the same argument feminists use to explain why there are fewer women in STEM fields. There are natural differences Feminists try to force outcomes. I’m not advocating for that, I’m advocating for choice. 'Expectations' is a slippery argument anyway, that shouldn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 12:37 PM
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An opinion that many proponents of gender roles don’t seem to hold, sadly. Not for men anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 11:36 AM
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So, the deal is not disposability, expectations of being a protector, provider and stuff, but that men aren’t getting the alleged social benefits that they used to for doing these things? What about the men who absolutely couldn’t care less about this and just want to not be expected to provide, protect, sacrifice?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 11:16 AM
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Interesting. I had no idea SK had banned porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 10:50 AM
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Well, I’m talking out of my ass here, based on what I observed during my social interactions in mixed spaces. Bisexual women who prefer men aren’t that hard to find, but lesbians are. Whereas gay men are extremely abundant. Bear in mind that we’re probably from different places, so it can vary from place to place. I’ve seen studies that suggest that the male homosexual population outnumber the female one where I live. Sure, there are methodological problems with researches like this, like the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:15 PM
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Funny, because the lesbians with plenty of male friends that I’ve seen were usually from poorer backgrounds and had no ideology whatsoever. The more empowered/feminists types always strike me as overly hostile towards men, so I wouldn’t be so quick to put the blame on men only. Besides, unlike women, men don’t have a gay friend fetish. Also, I suppose there’s not as many lesbians as there are gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:57 PM
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Bold of you to assume they actually want LVM to have any relief in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:34 PM
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It would be just the beginning, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:32 PM
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The “market value” of women would raise exponentially. People would resort to the black market to circumvent the ban and get their hands on pornography. Hollywood realizes that there’s a huge gap left by pornography and starts using softcore pornography in non-pornographic movies to attract a horny audience, until the anti-porn establishment realizes that Hollywood has substituted professional porn for all intents and purposes and demands movies to be censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:27 PM
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There’s also an element of self-fulfilling prophecy to it, I believe. If someone keeps hearing that they’re an addict over and over again or that certain thing that he does will inevitably cause addiction, how long until they actually internalize this message and starts believing it? You can definitely gaslight people into believing their sanity and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:17 PM
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Very few things are healthy in excess. The deal with the anti-porn crusade is that they want to convince you that you’re an addict regardless of the frequency you watch porn. And if you say anything, they resort to ad hominem and say it’s because you’re a smooth brained addict who is in denial about your addiction, not because you have legitimate reasons to be against their unreasonable and authoritarian worldview. Should we forbid junk food too? Alcohol?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:52 PM
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Different experiences, probably. I think you said in a previous comment that your non-straight friends are indistinguishable from your straight ones (or maybe it was someone else). Those are, in my opinion, the best kind of guys, because they don’t make their sexuality the most important part of their identity. But they’re also hanging out in mixed groups and are not as easy to find as the ones hanging in popular clubs. It would be interesting if there were a counterculture in the scene, to gath…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:19 PM
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He doesn’t look humble at all. To be clear, I’m not speaking ill of him, he doesn’t strike me as a bad person. But I also know dudes like him. Dedicated to social issues on their social medias, like exemplary guys. Cool to hang out with every now and then. But when you get to know them better, there’s just that wrong kind of cockiness that gets annoying with time. Like, he totally seems like the kind of guy who would gladly hookup with the girl his friend is interested in and feel proud about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:02 PM
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If they’re bellow 6, they’ll also fuck someone who is bellow 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:42 PM
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Except that hypergamy among gay guys is much more about dating/hooking up with your equal, as opposed to the female version, which is dating up. You get what you bring to the table. That’s why straight girls are so often shocked and make fun of guys who date other guys who look exactly like them. It’s not narcissism, it’s because you have much more chances of success going for someone of your league. But dating someone of your own league is an alien concept to many girls out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:37 PM
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Through my observations of the dating world, I have developed extreme sympathy for the struggles of men in this regard, so I believe redpillers make more good points than bluepillers, naturally. Not only that, but I came to the conclusion that, despite all the problems in the godawful community, being a non-straight man in an accepting country is much easier than being a straight one, at least for me. And I certainly love when I’m accused of inceldom or whatever and can reply by saying that I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:44 PM
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Many gay men are sure vocal about their shallowness, but when reality sets in, they’re also capable of settling, like most men. It’s a lot of talk, but not much more than that, really. My experience with female friends is the opposite. Some of them might not be as vocal about their shallowness in public spaces, but if you become close enough to be a part of their more intimate circles, you’ll actually have an idea of how shallow some of them are. Specially if you’re a gay men, since they’re more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:08 PM
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I believe most of the problems that the MRAs are trying to address won’t be solved until men have as much freedom to choose their preferred roles as women have and aren’t expected to be something by default. In that sense, I do wish that the MRM does for men the same thing that feminism did for women: complete removal from gender expectations (minus the lack of personal responsibility, neuroticism and hatred. You can leave that out). I’m always a bit shocked when I meet MRAs that are supportive …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 11:32 AM
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Kinda hard to convince me that a housewife with teenage kids is doing so out of functionality and not because she genuinely enjoys it. That argument would make sense if we were talking about toddlers, considering that, despite all the benefits we have and our ancestors didn’t, like parental leave and daycare, that might still not be enough if you don’t have an extended family to support you raising your children. But there are plenty of housewives that continue to be housewives after their child…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 09:57 AM
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True. I don’t like this trope any more than you do, but as I previously mentioned, things are way less plagued by double standards. If one of the male characters were to harass some of the female characters, for example, no one would bet an eye. It happens all the time in anime. In Western productions, they would take issue with what affects female characters and wouldn’t give a shit about what affects male ones. I can deal with problematic tropes, but I can’t deal with double standards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 02:33 AM
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Not really, because there aren’t double standards, you know? There are gender roles for male characters, but there are gender roles for female ones too. There are unfair tropes that affect male characters, but there are also unfair tropes that affect female ones. For example, while physical violence against male characters by female ones is often used as comic relief, so is the harassment of female characters by pervy male characters. In a sense, it’s much more equal than what they do in the Wes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/21 02:24 AM
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It’s funny, because if you do accept their belief system and everything that comes along with it, shaming a man for lack of sexual activity would be a textbook example of what they call toxic masculinity. They fail miserably to follow what they preach.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 11:20 PM
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Well I like the idea of a muscular women holding her own compared to the common, sub hundred pound women taking it to a group of 200-300+ pound men(makes me feel like I'm watching a scene from the 3 ninjas), and while I suppose considering the premise it would be a bit odd for anyone to be jacked up, she didn't seem all that jacked to me and her design was kind of a welcome change imo. I wouldn’t mind if I was playing Resident Evil or any other game in a non-apocalyptic setting. But it didn’t re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 08:28 PM
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Oh, yeah. One of the most prominent. Still remember the radfem pages on FB using her case as ammo for their anti-porn crusade. It’s also curious how many of these women continue their work on OnlyFans. I believe that’s the case for Khalifa as well, as I’m pretty sure I remember some controversy about her selling content on OnlyFans (I’m not sure how hardcore it was, though. I think she was selling pictures on lingeries or something. Other actresses totally continue their hardcore line of work). …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 08:04 PM
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Hmmm, it’s kinda hard to talk about it narrative-wise without spoilers, but to sum it up, the second game really shits on the male and female lead from the first game in order to highlight this new female character from the sequel. But this character is really, really unlikeable and hard to swallow. She also has a very stupid bodybuilder design, which was criticized by some people even before the game arrived, as it makes little sense for a female character living in an apocalypse and dealing wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 07:49 PM
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Yeahhh. I like the idea of mixed subs, but some people’s sheer incapacity to have any sympathy for male issues and their bad faith can be really frustrating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 01:06 PM
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Interesting. It deserves a post of its own over there. It’s an… interesting sub. But yeah, there are some things and members that are hard to swallow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:56 PM
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Revoked consent is the elephant in the room that no one wants to address. And by not addressing it (or outright denying it happens), I wonder how much we are actively encouraging it. And it doesn’t help that hierarchies are created based on suffering in social medias and advocacy, in a way that the voice of someone who is a rape survivor (let me just say that I really dislike this term) will have much more weight in some circles than the voice of someone who isn’t, the same way people will be mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:44 PM
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A fetish is just fetish. Doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with reality or how people treat or want to get treated by others outside of their bedroom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 10:06 AM
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Gaming is still fun. Despite how crazy the industry is when it comes identity politics, the stories themselves still aren’t as influenced by idpol to the same extent as Hollywood is. But they still are and it’s getting worse, no doubt about that. If I had to rank the types of medias I consume, I’d say anime > games > live-action. If you like story driven games, you can still find good male characters that aren’t being humiliated/diminished for benefit of female ones. Given that games are some of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:51 AM
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Yeah, it was a very frustrating experience. Specially considering how much I was anticipating it. I mean, it might sound silly, but there was a time this game was the only good thing I was looking forward to in my life. I wasn’t disappointed because my expectations were high, the game was absolutely well equipped to meet those expectations. But some choices were just… underwhelming. And the experience playing was not necessary the worst thing. But the way people reacted to criticisms, no matter …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:22 AM
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Then there are complex relationships like Joel and Ellie in The Last of Us, (I haven't played TLOU2 yet, but I heard there were problems with it) Oh, boy… Where do I even start?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/21 12:13 AM
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A few years ago, there was even a poll/referendum where people could vote whether it should be abolished or kept. Guess who could vote? That's right, everyone. Same thing with Switzerland. I can only imagine the outrage if it were men being allowed to have a say in female issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 11:48 PM
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The real reason is that we're still mostly led by old geezers who like the old ways, You’re not old and you certainly seem very appreciative of the old ways. and it's no really on anyone's agenda to change it, and asking around my friends people don't really find it a noteworthy equality issue. That’s a very lame excuse, tbh. Public apathy and lack of awareness doesn’t make an issue less of an issue. If that’s the case, then we should also stop fighting against MGM, given that most people are pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 09:37 PM
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Also, we know we would lose to Russia in an all out war So what’s the point of exempting women because of “effectiveness”? You sure make a lot excuses for a men’s rights advocate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 08:23 PM
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Honestly, it surprises me how incredibly accepting men are of feminism in your country. It is my understanding that Finland has one of the highest rates of conscriptions, meaning most men will end up serving. How on Earth do most men ignore the huge institutional discrimination that is being the only ones required to lose months of their lives, specially in a time where people talk about equality ad nauseam?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 04:28 PM
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Most people just take what they hear at face value and never really stop to think deeper about it, specially the perspectives that are missing. Like, I was just thinking about how blatantly female-centric the term “benevolent sexism” is, as it completely disregards the perspective of a guy who gets the short end of the stick because of this kind of sexism. Why not just call it sexism from the get go? It’s the same thing with the concept of equality. It’s very clear that it only means equality wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 04:23 PM
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I might be biased, since I’m not attracted to women, but there’s such a stark contrast between the examples of attractive women and attractive men on most subs. When they give examples of top attractive men, they mention guys like Henry Cavill, Chris Hemsworth, etc. When it’s examples of female of top beauty, they mention people like Kendall Jenner. I mean, she’s not ugly, but is she or any of the Kardashians the best examples they can come up with. Even if you remove the lens of sexual attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:24 PM
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Easily one of the most misinterpreted things that come to mind, btw. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/21 03:16 PM
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It became one of those “truths” that simply transcend ideology and are accepted even by individuals who are critical of or outright reject the ideologies which originated such truths, but that don’t hold up to scrutiny. “Feminism might be corrupted now, but it was necessary and well meaning in the begging”, “Intersectionality was created with good intentions”, “[inserts Abrahamic religion] is all about peace in its scriptures, its followers are just misinterpreting them”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/21 09:46 AM
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I saw someone being accused of inceldom for posting a motivational message for men the other day. On a motivational sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/21 01:26 AM
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Good question. I don’t think violence is necessarily required, though. But I do believe in strategic apathy and non-compliance. I think it’ll be very hard for this movement to have some impact if we don’t instill in men a similar sense of transaction as feminism instilled in women. How can you hope to change something if you’re not aware of how much your efforts and your support are worth? I said something similar when Texas banned the abortion of fetuses after the sixth week and a lot of MRAs j…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/21 01:16 AM
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I think there’s plenty of room for a second one. I’d love that. So many things to address.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/21 05:14 PM
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First, in most of these shows, the husband is relatively well off and provides the wife a comfortable lifestyle as an urban housewife. It’s not really like she’s doing some charity. She provides the looks, he provides the material conditions for her to have a nice life. It’s a bargain. People are just used to highlight female contributions while minimizing male ones. That’s why you’ll so often hear women complaining about attractive women having relationships with unattractive men without consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:45 PM
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For a while, yes. But if that came accompanied by other measures, such as the end of the belief that all women have a God given right to a high value man and people calling out hypergamy for what it truly is - contrarian to the egalitarian and emancipatory values adopted by society -, maybe the societal attitudes towards dating could improve significantly. But people just don’t feel comfortable calling out female shallowness like they do with calling out men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:16 PM
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Absolutely. But at the same time, you could also argue that such lack of standards are the main reason for the market to be the way it is. What came first? Tough question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:51 PM
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So I have to ask, if given the opportunity, would you choose to be reborn completely unattractive and not be sexually desired?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 11:07 PM
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The more you write, the more you prove my point. A really sad story, I must say, and it perfectly illustrates what I’m talking about. Despite all his shine and his awesome personality, look how he was treated for not having a pleasant appearance. Badmouthed, left in the cold. It’s very, very comfortable to say those doors aren’t worth exploring after you did one hell of an exploration. I’ll just say this much: please, don’t try to minimize the pain of those who weren’t given the same opportunity…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 10:43 PM
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It seems you found fulfillment in one area, but assumes you’d prefer to find fulfillment in areas you didn’t manage to. And who guarantees that that old friend of yours isn’t frustrated too? Who says he’s not struggling because his appearance is actively closing doors to him? Who says you’re not taking what you have for granted and would actually be even more frustrated if you weren’t desired physically? Here’s the thing: if you’re attractive, you can still work on your communication skills, you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 10:19 PM
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Maybe. But I’m not necessarily opposed to concept of privilege, I’m against the persecution and guilt tripping of people for what is perceived as privilege, as well as assuming a given group is privileged as a whole because they share a common characteristic with another group that is evidently privileged, like so often happens with men in the apex fallacy. I just don’t think it’s honest to deny that things that are so obviously appreciated by society and that so obviously open doors are more of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 09:58 PM
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You’re not wrong or crazy. Being sexually desired might come with downsides, but to minimize the positive aspects of it - which far outweigh the negative ones - is slap on your face and the face of all those struggling to get intimacy and to feel desired.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 09:28 PM
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All due respect, but it’s hard to buy it. People want to be valued for who they are/who they are trying to be AND they also want to be desired physically. For all the downsides that having money or beauty can bring, the positive aspects still outweigh the negative in a society that holds such things so dear. So you understand how incredibly frustrating it must feel to someone who struggles for not possessing these things when someone who does tries to minimize the advantages? It doesn’t feel hon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 09:19 PM
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It’s crazy how the whole country believed her, despite all the contradictions in her testimony and her inability to provide evidences. The guy wasn’t convicted, but his life in the country is pretty much over. It just goes to show how even rich men are vulnerable when it comes to rape accusations.
/r/MensRights08/10/21 07:10 PM
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Sure, the authorities should look into it. That does not mean that giving names without providing evidence on the internet is an acceptable conduct. I thought we were supposed to be against this kind of behavior, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/21 10:33 PM
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Everyone (including feminists) has an opinion on how women should be, and feels entitled to women’s bodies, reproductive health, behavior, and appearance. I think we (everyone) “commodify” women very aggressively, and argue ceaselessly over “how much commodification is exactly the right amount”. We don’t do this to men nearly as much (with labor exceptions, from military service to child support, being perhaps the glaring exception), And what a huge “exception”. Not to play oppression Olympics, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/21 08:15 PM
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And where can I see the MGTOW subs? Oh, wait, they’ve been banned, whereas misandrist subs are alive and well. Besides, let’s just flip the argument about institutional power that wokes have been using for years against them. Who has the institutional power here? Feminists or MGTOWs? You know the answer. So of course I’m gonna hold someone who supports a movement with institutional power and who is given free rein to express themselves as they wish without retaliation to a much higher standard. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/21 04:53 PM
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It certainly seems to contradict your previous statement. Eeeeeeeeh, yes and no. If you hang around almost any girl long enough in my experience, you'll hear some pretty misandric things. Unless these girls you’re hanging up aren’t feminists. If they are, they’re spewing the same misandrist shit they deny feminism is guilty of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/21 04:38 PM
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You know what’s funny? If questioned about the intentions of feminism, I bet your friend would put her most naive face and proceed to tell you how she’s a feminist because she believes in equality, nothing more. Still, they keep sharing this kind of crap, so yeah, I have a hard time being convinced about the good intentions of the average feminist. Not only do they legitimize the institutional feminists who are even more misandrist than they are and who have actual power, but they provide eviden…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/21 03:59 PM
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Thankfully, not all countries have the same stigma about living with your parents as the US does. It’s certainly a blessing when housing is so expensive and salaries are shit. And it certainly prevents many young people from feeling like a failure and offing themselves.
/r/MensRights06/10/21 12:35 PM
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I think Karen Straughan once talked about it, about how many of the women who got into STEM fields after the “women in STEM” (because there were of course women in those fields before this became a point of advocacy, they were just very different from the ones that came after) proceeded to demand that those fields were sanitized and made to cater to their tastes. The math should be easier, the “weird” guys who were always a trademark of those fields and who always felt comfortable there should h…
/r/MensRights06/10/21 11:41 AM
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I still don’t understand why so many people see BLM or even #MeToo as good things even here sometimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 01:24 PM
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Some branches of feminism argue that women shouldn't be pursuing relationships with men altogether. At least they’re coherent, right? That if they’re actually following their own preachings, of course. It baffles how so many heterosexual feminists dedicate so much time to male bashing, but can’t abstain themselves from having relationships with men. Not only that, but they often seek men with the same traits they allegedly find so hateful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 01:14 PM
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If we were to apply the same logic they apply to DV, then women would be excluded from mental health programs and black women wouldn’t be included in the discussions about police brutality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:58 PM
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I was thinking more of people who talk about how the average feminist is well intentioned, or even worse: those who are willing to throw incels and MGTOWs under the bus as a way of appeasing feminists and their policing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an incel, but I do have lots of sympathy for them, and even though I find MGTOW interesting as a concept, I dislike how prevalent tradcons are in the community. But it’s just shameful how quickly some people are to throw them under the bus. Like, “See…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/21 12:41 PM
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There's a lot of feminism-bashing outrage-porn here and while it's definitely frustrating as all hell to be faced with members of a movement that occasionally write a male issue off because they can't be assed to be empathetic... There’s also leniency and people giving the average feminist a pass because they’re allegedly well intentioned, as if that was some kind of absolution from supporting a hateful ideology that actively fights against the rights of men and boys. it wouldn’t hurt to promote…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/21 08:42 PM
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Hmm, I’m always suspicious of her. She often strikes me as a tradcon. But maybe I’ll give her book a chance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/21 06:37 AM
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⁠Protective feelings about women (benevolent sexism) I’d argue that this is actually encouraged, you just can’t be too “in your face” about it, like tradcons are, for example. One of main points of feminism is that men should call out abusers and go out of their to protect women. It can easily be seen in the narrative surrounding cases like Sarah Everard’s murder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/21 11:59 AM
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Oh, yeah. I know the type. Like that male university teacher who was all about feminism, but harassed multiple students. I already have a low tolerance for male feminist, but the likes of him are even worse. There’s something funky about him, even if you’re not aware of his history. Also, I’m not sure if you’re already aware, but I’ll provide the links of my deleted comments again. I don’t understand why this guy is still taken seriously after all this time. At least the strong influence he has …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/21 11:04 AM
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As someone who is not attracted to women, the notion that men don’t care about female pleasure is just so alien and contradicts everything I see and hear about sex. Our modern view of sex couldn’t be more female-centric. I don’t doubt there are many women who had very frustrating experiences, but most guys seem to care more about the pleasure of their partners than their own. Lack of communication and biology certainly come into play and men aren’t the only ones to blame for the frustrating expe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 09:05 PM
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Speaking of hunter-gatherers, work and Karen Straughan, I’d also like to post an excerpt of the transcript of one of my favorite videos of hers: To further illustrate how men can enjoy higher status than women while simultaneously having more burdensome and difficult lives--you know, getting the shorter end of the stick, the worse deal, all that--let's look at an extreme case of a staunchly and severely patriarchal society--something relatively unheard of in hunter-gatherer cultures: The Inuit. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 01:41 PM
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As an aside, I keep hearing feminists say that women in the past worked as much and as hard as men did in order to trivialise the idea that men took on the disproportionate burden of providing in the past, but historical data clearly disconfirms the idea that women worked as much as men, let alone jobs which were as difficult. Really? What I usually hear from them is that women were completely forbidden to work and that the few who did had to give their entire earnings to their husbands, which i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 12:26 PM
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Things like this are why I struggle to call myself an egalitarian or go out of my way to advocate for anything other than men’s issues. “We need men to shut up and help us change things, but we will not help men”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/21 01:48 AM
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I mean, if that wasn’t the case, then women like Prim Reaper and Cassie Jaye wouldn’t be noteworthy. But they are, because it’s not a common occurrence. Most left leaning women I knew subscribed to some form of feminism. Even those who didn’t label themselves feminists and were more about working class rights and issues. They still believed women have unique struggles and that men do not, which means they also believed women deserve unique attention and incentives and that men do not. I think th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 08:13 PM
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That’s actually infuriating, but not surprising. There’s a whole hierarchy you have to follow. You can talk about male issues, as long as you remind that women are always the biggest victims, as long as you know your place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 01:53 AM
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Wait, there are limitations about discussing male genital mutilation there? I’m not sure I follow. If that’s the case, that’s crazy. Let me guess, they don’t like people comparing MGM to FGM?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 01:47 AM
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But at the same time, it would also be naive to deny the utmost devotion of many LGBTs to feminism. That’s actually a point worth addressing, by the way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/21 12:31 AM
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It wasn’t on this sub…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 09:53 PM
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Top mod. On a post about menslib itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 09:33 PM
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FeminismUncensored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 09:12 PM
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The moderation of that sub is a fucking garbage even when you put their ideology aside. The other day, one of the mods was questioned about the AMA they hosted with that guy who denied female IPV against men and this mod could hardly formulate a sentence without resorting to childish offenses (this happened on another sub). Not really the kind of conduct you’d expect from a mod. He was so uncivil that several of his comments were removed. And that happened on a sub that’s otherwise relatively re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/21 07:03 PM
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I mean, sure, but education can only do so much. There’ll always be people willing to kill, rape, falsely accuse. Most people know these things aren’t acceptable, though. I find this concept of “we need to educate people until such things stop happening” so disturbing and not rooted in reality. And it’s even more disturbing when this is applied to developed nations that are perfectly safe places by most metrics. The UK isn’t a war zone and to pretend otherwise like these people are doing is simp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/21 02:16 PM
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Oh, yeah. The moment I saw that, I knew it had the potential to be a new Sarah Everard. They’ll soon start asking men as whole to take action. It’s chivalry 2.0.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/21 02:02 PM
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Feels like a hopeless and defeatist mindset for an advocate of men’s rights. It’s indeed not feasible to change overnight, but don’t you think it’s sensible to point out how such biases stick out like a sore thumb in a society with egalitarian values? Specially when this mentality guides legislation and media, determining who gets the resources and the attention and who doesn’t? Are we supposed to just accept things as they are?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/21 03:30 PM
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I find this argument so lacking. Why would a man-hating woman resort to such methods when being a man-hating woman doesn’t make one an outcast? In fact, many women build careers out of it. With the leniency of a society that agrees that misogyny is a bad thing and that misandry can’t possibly exist, these women make their way to institutions, become lawyers, teachers, mental health providers, journalists, legislators, lobbyists, entrenching their hatred and bias against men even deeper. Why reso…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 06:30 PM
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IMHO the difference between incels and FDS is that incels are either ignored or demonized, while FDS are spoiled by the dominant narrative. Not that the latter necessarily makes someone happier. I agree, which is why I fail to feel any empathy for FDS users. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe. What I do know is that I’d have plenty of empathy to give to a woman who craves for intimacy, but is unable to get some due to the circumstances of her life. That’s not the case of FDS users, though. The…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 06:02 PM
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Ah, yeah. That’s actually the one I read. Thanks for reminding.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 11:26 AM
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I believe you’re referring to this one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 06:38 AM
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I talk about ideological purity because parent does seem to care about men’s issues, despite apparently having strong feelings against the MRM itself, and they actively criticized feminism (which is one of the reasons I think voting manipulation is unlikely, since menlibbers are feminists. But it’s a possibility, sure).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 12:59 AM
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I agree it’s weird that the comment got many upvotes, but at the same time I think it doesn’t look good on the sub to practice the same kind of censorship based on ideological purity that menslib does on a thread criticizing menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 12:35 AM
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It’s a possibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/21 12:25 AM
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I think people simply misunderstood parent’s comment. When I first read it, I thought they meant Menslib instead of MRAs. Maybe others did too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 11:59 PM
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Sorry, the OECD graph has a format that makes it impossible for me to read it properly on mobile. But a quick glance at some of the details takes us to the problem exposed by u/problem_redditor in his comment . Some of the things categorized as unpaid work are very broad. Shopping (which includes shopping for clothes, for example), child caring, which can include things like playing and, gasp, talking to a child. I have something in the oven right now, but I’m here laying down in bed and texting…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 11:42 PM
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Commute is only one aspect. My point is that punishing men for failing to help women in their unpaid labor is nonsense, because it fails to take into account that men also perform unpaid labor, on top of being expected to be the ones doing extra paid labor. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/to-bring-attention-to-the-23-gender-commute-time-gap-i-introduce-the-new-equal-commute-day-on-april-14/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comme…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 11:47 AM
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Nah, men should be collectively punished and women collectively rewarded because some women are incapable of choosing partners that help them with domestic chores. /s That if we accept their flawed logic, of course. If we operate in the realm of reality, though, they just fail to take into account how men work longer hours and have longer commutes. And that paying most (or all) of the bills is as much of a contribution as doing domestic chores is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 11:35 PM
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I get very annoyed at people saying 'you can't expect that to change overnight' and meaning 'you can't expect that to ever change'. It's quite possible to have slow, carefully thought out change. This idealistic way of thinking fails to take into account the cost of these retirement benefits. This is simply not feasible. I ask again, in the meantime, should one group continue to be privileged over another? Is that fair? Would the groups protesting against making the retirement age of women match…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 11:21 PM
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And in the meantime, while the goal is not achieved, men should continue to get the short end of the stick? Besides, you genuinely believe countries like the US can afford to abolish the conscription, for example? And about the retirement age, well, maybe Switzerland can afford to have men retiring at the same time as women, considering it’s a 1 year difference. I’m not sure. But there are countries where the difference is as big as 3 or 5 years. It seems unrealistic and extremely naive to expec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 10:37 PM
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I can see why they're pissed about this. It's worse for them, and it doesn't actually help men any. It's just benefits being rolled back (probably for capitalist gain) under a thin veneer of 'equality' as the justification. It’s still a step towards equality, though. Usually, the argument that they should fix things for men instead of subjecting women to the same treatment is just a way of maintaining the status quo and the current privileges, just like they do with the draft. Protesting against…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 10:18 PM
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All rapes need to be proven to have happened. If your complaint is that women had to prove that they were raped in order to secure a conviction, well, welcome to innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof. Sorry you don't like that. You can't just waltz into a courtroom, provide no actual evidence of having been forced into sex, and obtain a conviction. Seeing the main complaints of feminists to this day, it really looks like their problem is with presumption of innocence itself. They …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 05:14 PM
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Everyone should retire the same age. That’s equality.
/r/MensRights18/09/21 10:53 AM
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Being gay and unattractive is NOT fun. "Men are visual creatures" has definitely some truth to it. There is, indeed. But people often understand it as “men will only be attracted to supermodels”, which is simply not true. Men are perfectly capable of settling, as well as feeling physical attraction for someone who is in their “league”. And if you’re gay and not attractive, despite having a smaller dating pool than straight men, you can still hope to find a guy who is in the same league as you to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 10:21 AM
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I often daydream I have the power to turn my terminally single friends gay. It would change everything for them. Are you me? I think about this all the time with some guys I see struggling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 02:22 AM
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So, my experience is limited, but I’ll try to answer a few things (that are not facts, just my take). There is hypergamy among non-straight men, and it’s usually much more acknowledged than it is in straight relationships. But it’s also much more about dating your equal than it is about dating up. So often I see some girls making fun of the tribalism among gay/bi men or talking about how guys will often date other guys who look exactly like them physically-wise. I guess the concept of dating wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/21 01:55 AM
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And what has she sacrificed for you? What makes her worth it? You have to understand that things don’t look good the way you put it. When you say she doesn’t recognize your sacrifices, you mean she’s being outright dismissive of everything you’ve done and asking you to do more?
/r/MenSupportMen14/09/21 03:52 PM
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I was arguing with one of these types on the male mental health sub. He was adamant that there’s no discrimination against short men and that all problems are in their heads. I gave him some of the studies I mentioned and told him he’s probably not short and has no idea what he’s talking about, which he replied by saying that he’s “only” 5’11’’. It’s a really hostile state of affairs, with much more people willing to throw accusations and victim blame than to offer some help. And it doesn’t help…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 04:11 PM
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I agree and have expressed similar sentiments before. They’ll just keep taking and taking without making any concessions. That’s why I struggle to call myself and egalitarian and believe that the posture of “turning the other cheek” is misguided and won’t ultimately achieve anything. Now, establishing that your support to certain causes depends on their support to yours is an idea I can get behind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 01:45 PM
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Seeing how often you see guys struggling with body image on mental health subs and forums, I think this is one of the biggest issues out there. I’ve seen some interesting studies, like the ones suggesting that short men are less likely to marry and earn less than taller men. They’re also more likely to commit suicide. I think body image issues are much bigger contributors to male suicide than people give credit. But since not many guys are willing to talk about this, it’s hard to know. And seein…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/21 01:27 PM
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The outlets have found success by tapping into the frustrations of Chinese women, many of whom feel society remains far too patriarchal. While 60% of men said they would “get realistic when reaching a certain age and settle for an OK match” in order to get married, women were much less willing to compromise. Around 65% of female respondents said they’d only walk down the aisle if they were in a “high-quality relationship.” I’m shocked. /s Now let’s point our fingers at men and accuse them of cre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/21 11:38 PM
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From all things they could care about, the fixation on CEOs specifically in feminist rhetoric is always the most jarring to me. I’m always baffled by their incapacity to acknowledge average men or those at the bottom of society. It’s always about power and money. So yeah, I tend to agree that this tunnel vision contributes to the their understanding of what constitutes patriarchy. I also believe there’s a lot of projection that goes into patriarchy theory. Deep down, many feminists know that if …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/21 02:30 AM
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I’m on mobile now, so it’s hard to tell exactly. But it was on the research paper itself, not the post. Admittedly, I still have to read it properly to know the full context.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/21 01:12 AM
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It’s a bit too long and I was never really that interested in this anime in particular, but the title doesn’t inspire much confidence. “Positive masculinity” sounds like the words of someone who assumes masculinity is negative by default.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 09:22 PM
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It looks interesting, but it’s really hard to keep optimistic once you see the likes of Mary Koss and Andrea Dworkin being referenced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 01:30 PM
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Feel free to call me out if I’m being biased, but the impression I get is that humiliation of male characters is much more prevalent in media targeted at female audience than the humiliation of female characters in typically male medias. Like, I’m capable of recognizing some tropes that feminists have complained about for years, specially in old movies, like femme fatales (which apparently are only a problem when men write them) lacking in personality and goals or female characters forsaking the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/21 12:05 AM
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What we have is a war on truth, with people who have no idea of what they’re talking about being given more platform than they deserve. The law doesn’t contain any penalty against the women having abortions, but it allows private citizens to sue providers of abortions and anyone else who assists a woman in obtaining an abortion after fetal heartbeat is detected. Meaning the only person who is 100% guaranteed to be a woman in the whole transaction is exempt from legal penalties. But sure, they go…
/r/MensRights08/09/21 07:45 PM
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Nuance would contradict the current Western state religion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/21 03:43 PM
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He has made some undeserved comments towards MGTOW, and is generally a rather standard traditionalist on many points. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Karen Straughan even made a video to address his comments.
/r/MensRights08/09/21 02:32 PM
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Because sexual harassment and domestic violence are obvious exceptions and not even high status and rich men are completely immune when it comes to that. Presumption of innocence is fragile even for these guys, specially if the accusations come from women who are also considered of high status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/21 02:05 PM
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Often, these are the men that women want to be with. It truly feels like much of the current narrative is about bashing low status men. The amount of toxic behaviors and even misogyny some “high value” men can get away with is astounding. It’s not like people don’t criticize them for their for their way of life, but in the end of the day, the criticism is just for show. It doesn’t affect their social and professional prospects, and the same people who criticize them wouldn’t miss the opportunity…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/21 12:40 PM
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Somehow, I knew your mom is Asian when I read the first post. Not to rely on stereotypes or anything, but this sort of story seems extremely common, specially in Asian families. It’s usually an extremely authoritarian mother who wears the pants in the relationship and a father who is generally more chill, but still frustratingly lenient when it comes to his wife behavior towards their children, which makes him complicit. I was actually surprised that you didn’t show much resentment towards your …
/r/MenSupportMen08/09/21 01:32 AM
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Maybe. But a system not being as effective as you’d like doesn’t exempt it from being discriminatory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 06:24 PM
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Their family violence policy also ignores male victims. Not surprising at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 02:10 PM
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Jacinda Ardern just feels like Trudeau in skirt and New Zealand as Canada 2.0.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 01:43 PM
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Things aren’t looking very good for the Amazon series, for what I’ve read. I heard even the Tolkien scholars who were serving as consultants left the show now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 10:11 AM
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It’s as I said, there are issues with the treatment of both men and women in their productions, but no one gets special treatment. One example specific to animation is how physical violence against men by female characters is often played for laughs, but at the same time you have the abuse of female characters by pervert male characters being played for laughs as well. The solution in the West would be to get rid of what’s bad for women and keep what’s bad for men. I can’t stomach double standar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/21 07:33 PM
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Haven’t watched the movie, but very interesting write-up. It sheds light on many overused tropes that plague entertainment these days, specially in productions for female audiences. The subject of men in entertainment is so interesting that it deserves a sub of its own (there’s r/MenInMedia. I hope it grows). One thing I like about Japanese media is that the double standards aren’t so jarring as they are in Western productions, where they go out of their way to write female characters in accorda…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/21 04:18 PM
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Yeah, it’s tough. On one hand, your chances might be better in a more traditional place, but there’s always the risk of ending up in one of those provider marriages where you’re only valued because of what you provide and not appreciated one bit for who you are. I think your best and most authentic bet is finding a normal woman with no ideology, be it feminist or conservative. But of course it’s easier said than done.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 03:20 PM
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Hypergamy is as prevalent among traditional women as it is among feminists, though. As is entitlement. Like, I get not wanting to date feminists because you share different ideologies, but some values and behaviors transcend ideologies, meaning conservative women are not that different from feminists in the end of the day.
/r/MensRights06/09/21 02:23 PM
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I mean men who are specifically told they’re lucky to have a pretty girlfriend. But yeah, most men are generally told they’re lucky to have a girlfriend/wife and your comment sums up my opinions as well. I guess I’m also a “radical” when it comes to such matters and I’m actually surprised that there aren’t more men upset about it. The male gender role in dating very often requires maximum effort and offers minimal rewards. There’s a shitton of effort to improve yourself just to make you eligible…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/21 01:13 PM
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That’s because: 1) They’re hardwired to only see the female contribution in the relationship and not the male one, which is always taken for granted. So when they see an attractive woman with a not so attractive man, they assume she’s doing some kind of charity, except the guy is usually bringing something else to the table in other fields, like financially. 2) The criteria you must meet to be considered an attractive woman is much lower than the criteria for attractive man, really. So many time…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 02:41 PM
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It’s hard to see a movement as positive when it liberates only one side at the expense of another, which is why I have a hard time finding redeeming qualities in things like the movement for body positivity and feminism. The body positivity movement as it is just feels like an excuse to raise the “market price” of women and shame men who are considered “high value” into lowering their standards. I’ve lost count of how many body positive images featuring an overweight woman and some conventionall…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/21 12:21 PM
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This is deeply disturbing. And chances are that the boy will be abused even more in the detention center. Still, Indian feminists protested against the gender neutral rape law. Let’s not forget that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 10:47 PM
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Not necessarily. Romcom is just one of many genres. And while it is true that male characters have bodies like that in many productions aimed at men, they also have in many productions aimed at female or that have a considerable female audience. I mean, the Twilight saga made billions and one of its biggest appeals were Taylor Lautner’s shirtless scenes. Just look at any teen show developed by Netflix or CW and their gratuitous shirtless/nudity scenes with male actors. Netflix always convenientl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 10:06 PM
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The way they refer to men is akin to how some Christians refer to the homosexual members of the church. Patriarchy theory will always close the doors to genuine empathy for men. When you think about what needs to be true for the core beliefs of modern feminism to make sense, it’s really not surprising that so many people loathe men and see them as broken. How else are people supposed to feel about oppressors? Now what these guys need is to develop some tolerance and maturity to accept the fact t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 03:31 AM
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The worst thing is that the consequences of that same hypergamy which leads successful women to have a lower chance of marrying at all due to their desire to find someone with even higher social and economic status as them That’s what’s funny. Not even women appear to be happy with the current state of affairs, which is another reason to shed light on the problem. If a woman is financially independent and proud to be so, why can’t she settle for a man who earns as much or even less than she does…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 03:42 AM
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And, in my opinion, for good reason. It's a deeply primitive, inegalitarian, and degrading concept to both sexes: objectifying men as resources and reducing them to a protector/provider role, while also denigrating women by assigning a role predicated on the belief they're only capable of surviving by seducing their way to the top. No society that wants to claim it believes in equality and dignity for both sexes can in good conscience support it, or at least must hide the fact that it does so to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 12:23 AM
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It’s as she says. The dynamics of heterosexual relationships continue to be dictated by hypergamy, which is even more jarring and contradictory in a time of relaxation of the female gender role. And I noticed how permeated these expectations were in the majority of the relationship of those who were close to me and in society in general even when I still considered myself a feminist. And the emotional tool these expectations have on men, specially those who fail to conform to the rigidity of the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 11:21 PM
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Hmm, interesting. I already find myself an oddity for being one of the few non-straight guys who notices and acknowledges the problems in the dating scene, but in my experience it’s even rarer for a woman to be on the same page as we are about the subject.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 08:00 PM
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I have a close female friend who is up in arms (rightfully) about the abortion issue, but wrote online that all the men who "circlejerked" about the idea of financial abortions should be out in the street protesting it. All I could think of was where were you when it came to getting rights for men? Yet you're demanding we help you? I mean, I get it. Financial abortion is a complicated concept and it took me months in the MRM to finally wrap my head around the concept. I don’t expect people to do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 01:51 PM
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I mean, financial abortion doesn’t have to be the only comparison. Men still lack the right to genital integrity in the entire country. How about that? That shouldn’t be controversial at all. When will those who vouch for equality start to actually fight for it instead of just asking for one side to support them without doing the same in return?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 09:44 AM
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And apart from the ethicality of it (everyone should have rights), if offering our support on this secures mother's rights and moves the timeline for fathers rights ahead, it's still worth it imo. And I have a bridge to sell you. As I said in my other reply, when will those who vouch for equality start to fight for it instead of just asking one side to support them without offering the same support in return?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 09:41 AM
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To try to get the admins to do more about coronavirus-related misinformation, as they were unhappy with the (imo reasonable) response that Thanks. And I agree with you about the response. Wish the admins would apply the same logic to everything else, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 09:35 AM
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So what? Feminists don’t support this, big media outlets don’t support this, young people don’t support this. Must be nice having this kind of support. In the long scheme of things, this will not stand. And people can always abort before the sixth week or travel to other states, which is more options than men have currently (or that women in third world countries have). remember that men currently are very limited in their parental rights in these situations too. This is a step backwards for eve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 02:12 AM
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"Women are afraid to be outside. Women are constantly in danger. Men aren't afraid!" “Men are more likely to be in danger of violent crime from strangers.” And then they accuse you of derailing the conversation, except the only reason you talked about the male experience in the first place is because they tried to minimize it and pretend they have a monopoly on suffering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 01:48 AM
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Why did they do it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 11:08 PM
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And it's not always about "rights," it's about how data and cultural biases work against women. And yet, nothing better than actual rights to compare the status of two groups. In a comment above, you laughed at the notion of men as “underclass citizens”. It does sound hyperbolic, but facts are, if you’re born a man, you won’t have your genital integrity granted by law the same way your female counterparts have in most parts of the world. Unlike your female counterparts, you won’t have the right …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 09:53 PM
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I don’t doubt women have specific medical problems that are worth addressing, specially considering biological differences and the fact that women have a much bigger myriad of gender specific problems, which translates to more avenues where problems related to medical practice can arise. But does that equal to the existence of a bias against women? Does that mean medicine caters primarily to men? If that’s the case, why do women outlive men in virtually every country and in at every social level…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 09:33 PM
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It basically lays out the biases against women in medicine, public policy, etc Interesting. Then women are the first group who, despite being subject to bias in medicine, outlive those who allegedly are not subject to the same bias (men) and who have much more funding available for the research and awareness of diseases that disproportionately or specifically affect their gender. but women definitely got the short end of the stick What rights do men have that you don’t in your country?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 06:28 PM
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Sure, I don’t doubt they disagree with him. What I’m criticizing here are their priorities. They wanted a feminist guest to lecture men on IPV against women, they just didn’t expect things to go that bad. Thing is, the subject of IPV against women already has plenty of platform and men are already lectured on that pretty much everywhere else, so when a sub that’s allegedly focused on male issues decides to pander and just focus on what every mainstream platform already focuses instead of keeping…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 05:36 PM
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And you really believe the mods who arranged for the AMA weren’t aware of his line of work? They didn’t want to “argue against his position”, they wanted someone to lecture men on how abusive they are and how they should be better to women, just like everyone else. That’s why the doors were open to that psycho. The mods just didn’t expect the victim blaming to reach that level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 05:23 PM
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I think it’s natural for individuals who are deeply involved in activism and advocacy to reach a point where they feel like they have no more avenues to explore, but as I said, I feel like she still has much more to contribute, even it is to talk about the same old issues. Her talking points and videos are a huge asset to the cause and I have seen people have a radical change in their opinions after seeing some of her content. And I mean, she made that comment a year ago. I feel like so much has…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 01:42 PM
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Agreed. I’d love to see her making a comeback. Her contribution to the movement was invaluable and I think she still has much more to offer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 01:20 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being anti-feminist. If you start making concessions like this, you’ll soon be using terms like toxic masculinity and patriarchy before you realize it. The problem is how effective your anti-feminism is. Many users on the mensrights sub try to do it by recycling old range-inducing news, which is simply low effort and not as enriching as it could be. But if you want to make your advocacy more palatable to a broader audience, you can only go so far before crossing into m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 12:44 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/i67zg9/the_white_feather_should_be_reclaimed_as_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/21 03:32 AM
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Just wanted to say that it took me a while to pay attention to the sub’s logo. And I love it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/21 11:40 PM
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I have nothing to add, but thank you for your work. I’ll be saving this for further reference. If I had the will and the mental health to post this on other subs, I would. Not sure I can endure people minimizing something so blatantly harrowing, though. The false accuser Crystal Mangum was not prosecuted for filing a false report. Being free to do so, she went on to stab her boyfriend to death in 2011, a crime for which she was convicted. This is horrible. If only people had the same contempt fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/21 02:49 PM
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Korean feminism seems particularly bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/21 02:50 AM
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I mean, I think any person in the LGBT community is expected to be loyal to feminism, tbh. Gay men are some of the most devout feminists out there. It’s genuinely rare to find one that doesn’t buy into it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/21 02:29 AM
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Can’t remember the exact moment, as these things seldom happen overnight and are usually the result of a very gradual process. Grew up in a very left-leaning household (my parents were more concerned about the working class than idpol, but they still bought a lot of it), went to a “progressive” highschool, then a progressive college. I guess it all started when I began to realize and criticize how shallow and detrimental “woke” culture was to my entertainment and had my complaints met with hosti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/21 09:49 PM
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Once I owned the book by Katie Roiphe criticizing the Dworkinian interpretation of sexual violence. Unfortunately I lent it to a feminist who never gave it back. Let’s face it, she probably burned it. On a more serious note, it’s an interesting article. As mentioned, there’s a very romanticized view of the #MeToo movement and of the idea of women coming forward with their stories and finding strength in each other. The narrative relies too much on feelings instead of facts and assumes the best o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/21 10:06 PM
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Story of my life. Grew up in a very left-leaning household. Although my parents are more focused on working class issues than on identity politics, they still buy a lot of it. And whenever I bring some solid points and actually “win” the discussion, my mother gives me the silent treatment, like I’ve done something wrong. It’s annoying and frustrating, really, because we can talk about almost everything most of the time.
/r/MensRights29/08/21 04:28 AM
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They'll say it's okay because women have never tried to kill men en masse And why would a woman who wants to cause harm do that anyway, right? These people just ignore all the institutional power that is widely available to women via governmental institutions like law enforcement and the court system, as well as the social power to ostracize and get others to commit violence on your behalf and maybe even avoid accountability in the process. Focus on typically male forms of causing harm and ignor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/21 01:02 AM
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For all the talk about how society encourages and rewards violence against women, I can’t remember of a single instance of male-on-female violence being sold as a positive or entertaining event. On the other hand, it’s very eye-opening when you realize how permeated female-on-male violence/abuse is in popular culture and real life. Or even male-on-male violence on behalf of women. In Hollywood, revenge porns where the female characters kill their rapists in the most sadistic ways are extremely p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 09:03 PM
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It's not just that they are worried about their own dating prospects if men no longer need them. The sort of men they imagine owning sex dolls is not the sort of men they want to date anyway. The attitude I see is more that being unworthy in their eyes is a moral failing in a man and the lack of access to sex is the just punishment. These men being able to go around them and still get sex undermines their ability to punish unworthiness. This is spot on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/21 12:34 AM
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And people still deny how institutionalized and compulsory feminist ideology is. They swear they are the underdogs here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 11:51 PM
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It’s curious how people outside Japan feel so sorry for Japanese women for having to put up with such outdated gender roles and with men who are allegedly perverts, according to Western media, but in a country where the workplace seems like hell on Earth (for both men and women, sure), women at least have a way out of this by becoming housewives. I have even seen Japanese women talking about this, like this one . It really feels like a very good place to live if you’re a woman who has the option…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 07:57 PM
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You know, I had this friend who is a radfem, meaning she is against pornography and prostitution. Through her, I also met other radfems. I think it’s easy to be against those things and advocate for “healthier relationships” when you are in a place where all you have to do is post the right picture on Instagram, without having to invest nearly the same time and skills that the average straight man needs to find a partner. And it is exactly the case of those women, some of whom have a high sex dr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 06:48 PM
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The misconception that he started completely from scratch is false on many levels. That seems to be the story of everyone who claims to have “started from the scratch”, ironically.
/r/MensRights27/08/21 03:43 AM
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I believe they are talking about gender wealth gap, as opposed to gender wage gap. I’m not aware of the methodology used to get to these results, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 02:56 AM
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Like Elizabeth Wilks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/21 11:03 PM
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Truly disgusting. I’m not even a DV victim and even I am beyond words, just sitting here astonished, angry. Imagine how many men this creature has gaslighted. Imagine how many people he sold his filthy ideology to. He says he worked with over 2000 men who allegedly abused their partners. I wonder how many of these men were actually the abuse victims (or were in a mutually abusive relationship) and tried to tell him their side, only to be dismissed and told that they were the actual abusers. He a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/21 10:54 PM
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I’m not even joking, but considering how everything is turned into a transaction and held against men by feminists, I wonder what will happen when women are paying much more taxes than men. First, feminist media outlets will probably celebrate the fact that women have vastly outnumbered men in the job market, never mind the countless men struggling to get by. Then they’ll realize that there’s a gender gap when it comes to paying taxes and that the public spending with men and women should theref…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/21 07:58 PM
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Because you made a conscious choice to put yourself in that position, maybe? After a certain age, you’re allowed to even kick your children from your house without further repercussions. And we’re talking about people you actually brought into the world. And still, the law doesn’t offer them any protection. Why should stay at home spouses who are adults and who made a conscious decision be afforded a kind of protection that isn’t offered even to your own children?
/r/MensRights26/08/21 07:05 PM
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but I get why they should get at least a million because they were there since the beginning. They didn’t get millions. They got billions. Meanwhile, Gates intends to leave 10 millions to each of his kids. Of course I don’t believe for a second that’s all they will get, as there are other assets that should be taken into consideration, but my point is, the children he brought into existence won’t get nearly as much as a this woman who has no blood relation to him got in her divorce settlement. T…
/r/MensRights26/08/21 06:19 PM
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The Bill Gates case is funny, since, in his words: “I definitely think leaving kids massive amounts of money is not a favour to them. Warren Buffett was part of an article in Fortune talking about this in 1986 before I met him and it made me think about it and decide he was right,” And then proceeds to give billions and billions to a woman who has no blood relation to him. Women first, your kids second, I suppose.
/r/MensRights26/08/21 06:02 PM
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And I never implied otherwise.
/r/MensRights26/08/21 04:08 PM
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That’s not a thing in most countries. Do you live in India, if you don’t mind me asking?
/r/MensRights26/08/21 01:47 PM
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Friendly reminder that the NOW, the biggest feminist organization in the U.S, has vehemently opposed alimony reform bills in Florida for several years. Also, another friendly reminder that tradcons believe it’s a man’s duty to provide for women and alimony is a direct consequence of this kind of thinking. Feminists are not on your side, but neither are tradcons.
/r/MensRights26/08/21 01:43 PM
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So it's really the liberalism they hate, not the gender. That’s simplistic. They’d still look down on a non-liberal man who doesn’t conform to gender roles. Believing a man’s worthiness is tied to his ability to provide and sacrifice himself for the sake of women fits my definition of gender hatred.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 11:32 PM
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The Duluth Model. A courtesy from… guess who?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 11:12 PM
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It’s the default attitude of individuals from the entire leftist spectrum to male issues when they aren’t approached from a feminist framework.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 11:00 PM
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Tradcons don’t hate women, though. They hate feminists and any man who fails to perform classic masculinity and to put women above himself. They’re a lot more similar to feminists than they like to believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 10:13 PM
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And these guys will just be excluded from the civilian casualties statistics, which are much higher than what’s being reported due to policies such as this one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 10:04 PM
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And how would someone prove they’re LGBT? That makes no sense as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 02:38 AM
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Usually I’m like… “Ok, so I’m supposed to be rooting for her? Really?”. I mean, if they want to reunite the good girl with the bad boy, by all means, feel free to do it. But at least try to do it without making the female character come off as an unlikeable and selfish person in the process and then asking me to like her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/21 02:29 AM
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I feel like there needs to be a watershed where men and boys open up about their experiences and start calling out the people who violated them. I don’t think we need such thing. What we need is to make sure presumption of innocence doesn’t fall out of fashion and that male rape is taken as seriously as female rape by authorities, statistics and society. People who have been victimized should go to the authorities, not to Twitter, not to journalists. And may those who seek media outlets instead …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 10:14 PM
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One of my most hated movies ever due to this sort of thing is "Sleepless in Seattle." In it, a woman who is engaged - to a good man who loves her and supports her - falls in love with someone else literally by hearing his sob story over a radio station. She then decides to leave her committed relationship for "true love." This trope is very common. Usually, the man is some provider/down to earth type who really loves her and she settles for him, but she ultimately leaves him for some conventiona…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 09:49 PM
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I generally dislike feminism too, but if a feminist comes in good faith and expresses sympathy to male issues in a way that doesn’t victim blame men (mostly by using terms like patriarchy and toxic masculinity), why would we pay so much attention to such technicalities? That would alienate potential allies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 08:29 PM
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His whole satisfaction must come from the fact that she allows him to court and worship her. I truly believe these things influence how people actually date more than we give credit. There was a post on r/science these days that has something to do with it and goes to show how one-sided relationships can be in some aspects. I’m gonna be honest, it’s not only hard to cheer for Hollywood couples after you open your eyes for these unbalances, but it’s hard to even feel happy for most couples IRL wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 08:15 PM
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On the risk of sounding whataboutist, do you feel the same concern about feminist subs, for example? Because the rhetoric of subs like this one doesn’t even come close to the things you’ll see on most feminists subs, where people won’t hesitate to outright blame men for all the problems in the world and openly admit their hatred of men. And they do so with the approval of this site, whose admins have openly admitted that it’s ok to attack men as a group. In my experience, most people who are con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 04:27 AM
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So what’s exactly your suggestion? That we just ignore blatantly false narratives that are repeated ad nauseam and taken as fact? What’s so wrong this post? It seems that no matter what we do, there’s always someone unhappy, there’s always someone interpreting what’s being said as an attack on women, even when it’s as clear as daylight it isn’t.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 01:13 AM
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Yeah, I keep hearing people saying they’ll go the retirement by suicide route. Such is the current state of affairs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 01:46 AM
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Brazil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/21 01:21 AM
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I mean, if you go by the feminist argument that every woman who fights for equality and better opportunities is a feminist, then yeah, I suppose you could call this feminism. I think pro-female bias would be a better word for the title of the thread, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 08:27 PM
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This is an issue I wish had more visibility in the MRM, but it tends to get overlooked, since discussions are usually centered around places like the U.S, Canada and the UK. Pensions actually work like this in my country as well, so yeah, it’s infuriating. It’s one of the many things that common folks don’t think about much. But believe me, those who supposedly stand for equality will fight tooth and nail to defend early retirement ages for women. It’s something sacred and just in the opinion of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 08:07 PM
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I think both things can be true and exist in a state of contradiction, but I’m not sure I can elaborate much further.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 04:40 PM
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People tend to underestimate how much control women generally have over what is being talked and what is allowed to be talked about on the internet. When I’m browsing Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and the likes the impression I have is that I’m in a completely female dominated world, really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 11:05 AM
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Some people are acting in the exact same way we criticize feminists for, trying to discourage conversations they deem “dangerous”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/21 01:22 AM
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Just because it sounds dumb and simple when TRP and the likes explain it doesn’t mean it’s completely untrue. The basic idea is: society teaches men to act in a certain way, but expects them to act in the opposite way when it comes to performing to attract a partner (except no one tells them that). This subject has also been approached in a more enlightened and nuanced way by people who are not necessarily related to TRP. Personally, I believe it’s an important conversation to have, but I think …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 11:32 PM
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They’re just repeating what they’ve been told, like parrots. I doubt they’d be able to provide evidence to substantiate such claim. They’ll just repeat more mantras. I don’t doubt women have a hard time accessing some gender-specific procedures/services, but that does not equal to men having an easier time accessing general health services. In fact, everything seems to point to things being the other way around. If that premise were true, then women would be the first group to have reduced acces…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 05:10 PM
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I don’t think it’s negative that schools want to recognize and prevent radicalization, but am I the only one who is skeptical? This looks like yet another step in an already one-sided educational system that treats boys as villains and girls as victims, just like the usual approach to sexual consent. It feels like a Trojan Horse that will open the doors to even more misandry and demonization of male students, which are already rampant. To make things worse, there doesn’t seem to be an attempt to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 04:51 PM
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It’s a touchy subject, since many people seem to believe that the existence of people who transitioned for the alleged benefits of the opposite sex would delegitimize the identity of trans people as a whole. Personally, I do believe that while the gender narrative remains as unbalanced as it is, with misandry off the charts, constant lectures on male privilege, women being instilled with fear and paranoia of existing and people being told they must’ve been born in the wrong body just because the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 12:31 PM
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I mean, sure, but there’s a point where concessions need to be made. Specially considering how often men as a group are demanded to stand up for the rights of other groups and make a difference in the world. How can people expect that of men without nothing in return, when there are still very obvious injustices and discriminations in place that no one seems willing to address, let alone fix? You can do the bare minimum, which is living your life in way that’s respectful to those around you and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/21 12:03 AM
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Too many narratives rely on the assumption that men have an in-group bias. To say otherwise would detract from such narratives. Think about the wage gap, for example. The entire premise is based on the assumption that male employers would have such an strong in-group bias when it comes to their own gender that they would pay men more for their work than they pay women, just by virtue of being men, even at the expense of their own profits. But how can this unspoken covenant between men be true if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/21 01:31 AM
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The fact you guys are apart of a subreddit called mens right is sad in itself. So you don’t think issues like genital mutilation, conscription, court bias, parental alienation, mental health/suicide, gender roles and bodyshaming are worth discussing?
/r/MensRights19/08/21 10:44 PM
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imagine committing an immoral federal crime because you don't like people that think differently on the internet Lol, right? Exactly my thoughts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 11:13 PM
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Shocking, right? And to make things worse, the few men in those positions seem to share the same biases as their female coworkers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 05:30 PM
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I didn’t mean to imply that feminism is responsible for this situation, but that there’s a huge disconnect between all the talk about gender equality and what is seen in practice. This disconnect exists pretty much everywhere, but I think it is (or at least should be) much more noticeable in places with high rates of male conscription. It’s easy for many men to ignore issues like circumcision, court bias, lack of support for men who were victims of DV and discrimination in the rental market, but…
/r/MensRights18/08/21 05:23 PM
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I really struggle to understand why young men in Finland seem to be so accepting of feminism. It is my understanding that your country has one of the highest rates of conscription in the world, right? Meaning it’s not a “just in case” thing, like it is in most countries, but most men are actually guaranteed to serve. It’s sad that this fact alone isn’t enough to open the eyes of so many men to how flawed and hypocritical the current narrative about gender equality is. I heard that in countries s…
/r/MensRights18/08/21 04:45 PM
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You know where I’d love to see some diversity? HR positions. In places like the US, women make up more than 70% of HR managers. Not that I think that more men in those positions would completely mitigate the issue, but there seems to be an ongoing problem with HR ladies with a “keen sense of justice” making some very biased decisions. There was a post about this on this sub these days. It wasn’t about HR per se, but about people being interviewed for scholarships and with obscene amounts of pro-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 04:21 PM
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Maybe it's the way it's worded? It can be read that "I personally think one sex is better, but the law shouldn't". That’s not my understanding of what he wrote. I don’t see any implication of superiority in his words.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 09:59 PM
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Dr. Thomson said: "We have found the recurring 'gender gap' found on state use of conventional military force extends to Britain's nuclear force capabilities, with men more in favour of retaining the nuclear deterrent than women. Yeah, that tends to happen when you know your gender will be the meat shield in the absence of such deterrents.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 02:37 PM
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Trapping men into non consensual relationships is itself a popular female fetish. There's even a subreddit for it on Reddit. This is so common and acknowledged (but not frowned upon in the slightest) that several countries have specific terms to describe these women and this type of “scam”. One thing that many people overlook is how often this scam is perpetrated through rape, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 08:22 PM
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And I just came across a BBC article with a curious headline (“457 sons, daughters, wives, brothers have been lost for nothing”). Not that I oppose the inclusion of these women, I just find it curious how some things are gendered and others are not, depending on how it serves the narrative adopted by big media outlets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 05:17 PM
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And boys compromised 71% of the child casualties. Not trying to turn this into oppression Olympics, but people should really take a look at this data before shaming men for not putting their lives on the line and pretending they have it so much better than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 05:03 PM
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None of this trivialises female rape victims. I do personally think that male-on-female rape is morally worse than male-on-male rape for the same reason that I think male-on-female violence is worse than male-on-male violence. Men have a responsibility to protect women, and only female rape victims can get pregnant. Jesus, I didn’t know he was such a tradcon. I’ll still defend him and the right to free speech, specially against feminism, but way to lose credibility.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 03:19 PM
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It’s the exact same shaming tactic being used by equally privileged people to shame men into accepting their disposability. And make no mistake, if similar events were to happen in countries that stand for “equality”, all the talk about equality would be thrown out of the window and men would still be expected to be cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 02:20 PM
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The second comment is right, though. Men are much more willing to put themselves in harm’s way and make investments when they have no idea of the possible outcome, whereas women prefer to play safe and make their moves when they’re certain the odds are in their favor. A lot of people conflate that with men having more agency, which isn’t necessarily true. And people certainly love to overlook the cases of guys who made dangerous bets and got screwed because of it. And as much as they love to bas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/21 02:06 PM
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I’m not unfamiliar with the concept, I just don’t subscribe to the notion that most male concerns and insecurities stem from it. Some of these concerns are rooted in reality. And as someone who also suffered with body image issues, let me just tell you that, while telling men that they’re doomed won’t help, neither will denying their problems and pretending they’re crazy. Specially when that’s not the way we treat women with similar problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 07:05 PM
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I stand for freedom of speech. Even for those I dislike, even for a place like FDS. I don’t want people I disagree with to be banned, only the individuals who break the rules. Reddit in general is still a lot healthier than many communities out there, in my opinion. And as you said, there’ll always be other platforms available. So unless you want to gatekeep access to internet as a whole, I don’t see the point of banning people. And I certainly don’t think telling them to go fuck themselves will…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 06:36 PM
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are all spawned from toxic masculinity. I think that men have tremendous pressure put on them to act in a certain way just so that they can be a man, and see themselves as a success. But why would you call that “toxic masculinity” instead of just “strict gender norms and expectations”, which are much healthier and honest terms?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 12:02 PM
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Specially when those who are conservative are just as likely to spread this narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 11:34 AM
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I never participated of MGTOW and incel communities, nor do I identify with these terms, but overall I’m not a fan of all this. In practice, it feels like mods are giving in to reddit’s censorship. It is already happening in other subs as well, like Kotaku in Action. When it happened here after the MGTOW ban, I wasn’t a fan either, but I thought that maybe it wasn’t my place to say anything, as ultimately I was not the one who spent hours and hours producing content and dedicating to elevate the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/21 10:51 AM
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but not so much to advocate actually going your own way or to give up on finding love But what does “advocacy” entail? Would a man talking about his reasons to give up pursing a romantic life be considered advocacy? That’s my problem with these things. It’s hard to draw a line.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/21 11:51 PM
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r/MenInMedia That seems like an interesting sub with a lot of potential. I hope it grows eventually.
/r/Male_Studies14/08/21 04:18 PM
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Thinking of starting a new hobby: aquascaping. I feel very inspired by MD's YouTube channel For a second I thought that would be some kind of escape room for fishes. That would be cruel. O.O Nice hobby, though.
/r/MenSupportMen14/08/21 02:33 PM
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End up tolerating behaviors or situations you wouldn’t otherwise because you’re financially dependent on your spouse. And this includes abusive behavior. Some people already have a hard time getting out of abusive relationship when both parties are financially independent, I can’t even begin to fathom how much harder it must be when someone is financially dependent. And then there’s going back to the job market after years in the case of a divorce, which can’t possibly be easy as well. And then …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 08:01 PM
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Don’t get me wrong, I do see the appeal of it. For the majority of people, work life is hell on Earth. It’s also annoying to see people pretending that being a SAHM is anything other than a privilege or in any way comparable to having a full time work. I do fight against the stigmatization of stay at home dads, but that’s mostly because I’m critical of the male role as a provider and because I hate double standards, so if it’s acceptable to be a SAHM, being a SAHD should also be fair game. But t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 07:34 PM
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You said it yourself: in terms of difficulty, being a stay at home parent is "overrated" in terms of having a job. I wouldn't mind at all staying home and living my life off someone else's dime. Even if it meant cooking dinner and keeping the house (that you get to spend a lot of time in yourself) clean. Sure. I can definitely see the appeal. Can’t argue against that. It’s just that the whole thing can backfire if the relationship goes wrong. And I definitely wouldn’t want to be in a place where…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 04:15 PM
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I might consider being with someone who earned more money than me if they were also open to me being a stay at home parent but I've never heard anyone ever express any interest in that. Why would you want that? Why would any man or woman want that these days? It’s putting a lot of faith in your partner to do right by you. It’s the same thing I’d say to a woman with such aspirations. Also, I believe no one should be financially responsible for their partners and that domestic work/child care is h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/21 03:48 PM
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I think people will just cling to anything that upholds their own biases. And pro-female bias is particularly strong. People are more than comfortable when it comes to attributing shallowness to men as a whole, but attributing negative qualities to women causes them discomfort. I genuinely doubt that a study showing that men have dating preferences that contribute to the loneliness of both men and women would be controversial. And if they are to accept the result of this particular study and sev…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 09:28 PM
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Good thing she’s your ex then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 01:34 PM
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The calculated grading system being used for this year's Leaving Certificate has been designed to ensure that overall girls will do better than boys. The exams system is supposed to be blind and anonymised, but the gender of students will be taken into account, the Irish Independent has learned. In order to make sure that the standardisation process works, there will be validation - including any necessary re-balancing to preserve girls' advantage on higher grades, as seen in previous years. Wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 12:22 PM
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I was actually told something like this on the male mental health sub. It was basically something like “Even when suicidal, women are more empathetic than men”. Shocked to know this is a more common line of thinking than I previously thought.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 10:51 AM
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Mandatory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 10:11 AM
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Any word on why this was removed again?
/r/MensRights11/08/21 11:33 PM
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Yeah, fells like Trudeau.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/21 09:23 PM
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No, they absolutely do not. The attitude of casual feminist is just closing their eyes to how bad the feminist with actual institutional/lobbying power fuck up.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 08:04 PM
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Feminist Majority and its founder Katherine Spillar, who thinks domestic violence is “just a clean-up word for wife-beating,"? You’re delusional.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 08:02 PM
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Show me one feminist who defend that man cannot be raped. Mary Koss is responsible for removing men from rape statistics during her time in the CDC. This is what feminists with actual institutional power are doing. Or how about Indian feminists protesting against the gender neutral rape law?
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:52 PM
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Are the comments on that sub removed that often or is there another motivation behind it? Genuine question.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:46 PM
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You’re not wrong. I do hope you find a professional you can speak freely with. The very fact that we feel so reticent to talk about things that shouldn’t be that controversial even in therapy is yet another evidence of how crazy the current state of affairs is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 09:20 PM
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Could also be that the field isn’t very welcoming to men the way it is now. I’m sure it must vary greatly from country to country, but I hear very discouraging stories about the rough time some men have in the academy if they don’t subscribe to a certain set of beliefs. Just a guess, though. And I don’t know if I’d ever be able to bring some controversial topics to a therapist, to be honest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 08:51 PM
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This is completely on tune with feminist beliefs about female criminals. There’s plenty of feminist material advocating for (even) lighter sentence for women, saying that the prison system doesn’t work for them (which dehumanizes men and imply it works for them), saying courts should be more lenient when it comes to female criminals who have children, etc. One of the arguments I’ve seen is that many women were coerced or obligated by their criminal husbands to do the things they did. It’s truly …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 07:30 PM
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Why exactly was this removed?
/r/MensRights10/08/21 07:23 PM
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In the modern world, feminism is radical. There are very few non radical feminists around anymore, especially of any notoriety. My problem with such denominations is that going by textbook definitions will only take us so far. And they’re not always capable of painting a clear picture of things. Sure, most self-proclaimed liberal feminists (or any kind of feminists, really) believe in patriarchy theory, but would it be right to say they’re radical feminists when, for example, they’re not necessa…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 03:21 PM
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Something else I find interesting is how they paint Christina Hoff Sommers as a conservative. She calls herself a liberal, not a conservative. She just gets picked up in a lot of conservative news outlets because of how normalized far-left radical feminism has become. Her "normal-left normal-feminism" looks "far-right" to a lot of these radicalized feminists nowadays. I think it also has a lot to do with her willingness to collaborate with conservative institutions and platforms. What people hav…
/r/MensRights10/08/21 01:25 PM
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No wonder so many men i talk to from America say if they get drafted there going to do a bunch if bad stuff. I know I would too. Definitely wouldn’t be a productive member. Compulsory service is one of the biggest and most sexist things in all history and modern world. And it’s even worse in countries like Finland and Singapore, where it’s not a “just in case” thing and you’re pretty much guaranteed to serve. And it’s so blatantly obvious how sexist if is, but no one seems to care. It’s absurd t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 10:57 AM
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They motte-and-bailey their way out of everything and it works. The goal of their movement, terms they popularized, like emotional labor and toxic masculinity. It all sounds very reasonable and uncontroversial when public eyes are at them and they’re doing their explanations, but what they explain is not necessarily representative of their movement and how these terms are actually being used (and they are being used in bad faith).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 10:35 AM
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I don’t think it’s necessary wrong to say that there are unhealthy behaviors that are disproportionately displayed by individuals of the female gender, the same way I wouldn’t think it’s wrong to say the same about individuals of the male gender. The problem would be reducing femininity/masculinity to those behaviors or assuming that these behaviors are intrinsic to them. And none of these behaviors are gendered. My gripe with the toxic masculinity crowd is that they act in bad faith and don’t w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 11:46 PM
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It was already posted there, thankfully. It’s where I first seen it. If you’re having trouble accessing it, try reading the non-archived version that was posted on the everydaymisandry sub. I believe it it is the latest post there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 08:32 PM
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They are very anti pornography, they advise women to hold out on having sex and enforce quite a few traditional gender role stereotypes or dynamics. None of that is really a problem if you’re a radfem, except for maybe the traditional gender roles. But feminists from all branches are more supportive of traditional gender roles than they like to believe anyway. To corroborate, they also display the transphobia that is so often present in radfem. I’m not a fan of the AHS sub, but this showcases FD…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 04:04 PM
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I expected many things, but framing FDS as something remotely positive is low even by their standards, I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 02:44 PM
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Yes, The Guardian wrote an article painting Female Dating Strategy in a good light. And to be fair, I won’t send this bill to feminists alone, because not all FDS users are necessarily feminists. However, I still gotta ask to feminists and all those who oppose men’s rights advocacy: if we truly live in a society that prioritizes male needs over female ones and that rewards misogyny, why are men who engage in misogynistic behavior being socially and institutionally condemned to obscurity, while w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 02:16 PM
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It must be so comfortable to be a feminist and expect men’s rights advocates to call out the misogyny inside the movement (or even in other movements) while you can just dodge the criticism about the misandry of regular feminists and of feminists with institutional power by saying they have nothing to do with you. So, so comfortable and convenient. Only take, never give. That should be their motto.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 01:23 AM
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Wholesome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/21 07:19 PM
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Jesus, the UK government is sick. How will marking and stigmatizing ex prisoners help anyone? At least there’s an example of human decency to balance such madness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/21 12:40 PM
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Honestly, I’m in a point where I’m already failing to see the nuance of things and being outright skeptical from the get go. This article, even though it tries to have some, still disgusts me as usual. So this woman has three sons and that still wasn’t enough to break her obscene gynocentric bias. The whole article just feels like “How can we tell better stories to young boys in order to make the world a better place for women” or “Why can’t boys express themselves in more feminine ways?”. The l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 06:21 PM
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Archived version Edit: it’s also worth noting that the original title was changed. Newer version, just in case the text got slightly changed too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 03:44 PM
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I mean, even if you accept the premise that feminism stands for equality, it still would’ve been an awful name for such a movement. I struggle to understand why people who supposedly fight for equality would want association with a movement whose very name has nothing to do with equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 02:46 PM
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I don’t think you’re wrong or overthink. I would’ve reacted the same way. I wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow if I heard such sentences from a friend who doesn’t subscribe to “political correctness”, but it’s entirely different when it comes from an outspoken body positivity militant. And they are often those who enjoy bodyshaming men the most. It’s not wrong to expect ideological coherence from others.
/r/MensRights07/08/21 02:00 PM
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Never even commented on those subs, but was going to rant about the double standards. Will just keep to myself, though. Guess that’s how things will be on this site from now on, if you’re not on the right side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 12:38 AM
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Noooo, we just want to end gender norms and expectations. NOW TELL ME WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MAKE THE WORD SAFER FOR WOMEN THIS WEEK, MAN. /s
/r/MensRights06/08/21 07:26 PM
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I hear about such “support” groups very often. The feminist approach to male mental health is akin to the Christian treatment of its homosexual members. You’ll always be treated as a recovering sinner. And in these groups, the goal is not to better yourself or to learn how to cope with mental health issues, but how you can be a better men to women. It’s the same reason why feminist politicians occasionally endorse the male paternity leave: because it largely benefits women at home and also mitig…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:30 PM
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Say it out louder for the whole sub to hear: TRADCONS DON’T CARE ABOUT MALE WELLBEING.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:19 PM
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As it was mentioned yesterday, having a tight moderation helps, but it’s no guarantee it will save you from the ideological double standards of this site, specially when any slight criticism of our feminist overlords is enough to label you a misogynist. That’s why I never even cheered and supported the MGTOW ban in the first place. Until they either start banning the misandrist subs or stop banning subs altogether, supporting such bans will be supporting double standards and the idea that misogy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 09:18 PM
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But what we are seeing now with gender in ads, is the notion that if you have a woman do something bad in a ad you are saying something about all woman. But if you do this with a man you are only saying that about that man. But this has now been done so much that it feels like it is saying it about every man. Much of that is because women have a much bigger sense of collective than men, which is actually ironic, considering how often men who oppose feminist generalizations are accused of being p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 03:29 PM
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vegan feminists claim that the meat and dairy industry is sexist because of how female animals are raped and slaughtered (never mind that the males are often considered worthless and routinely culled at birth) They do that because they’re unconsciously aware of the fact that subjects like female rape are extremely sensitive and that most people have strong feelings about it, unlike what the feminist core beliefs preach. Although, to be fair, I also hear the argument about the disposability of ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 01:27 PM
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No, it wasn’t, because they’re not banning misandrist content. It was heavily biased. Until the likes of FDS start to get banned as well, supporting the ban will be supporting double standards and the message that misogyny is worse than misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 12:56 PM
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They were not pseudo-feminists, they all stood for the same misandrist foundational principles of feminism. Only difference is that they happened to be accused of transphobia, which is not accepted by the admins, unlike misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/21 12:49 AM
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All bad things must be named after men. Now I ask to feminists lurkers: why do I have to use gender neutral language when feminists so vehemently refuse to stop using terms like toxic masculinity, for example? Men were more than happy to change several words in order to accommodate women, like fireman/firefighter and policemen/police officer. There were even bills about that. So why can’t those who so very often repeat the term ‘toxic masculinity’ let go of it, since many men think the term is i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 10:26 PM
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You don’t need to have solidarity with those groups to be accused of misogyny. You’ll be accused of association nonetheless. That happens with every slight criticism of our feminist overlords. There’s not much more that can be done other than have a good moderation, like subs such as this one do. But should we go out of our way to denounce those groups or give in to feminist policing and be like “See, see, we have nothing to do with them, so please, spare us”? I don’t think so. But to each their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 09:53 PM
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Honestly, why would I cheer the MGTOW ban? I never once posted on those subs, but feel free to check my post history. But why on Earth would I be like “Yaaay, finally” knowing that such ban was heavily biased? Meanwhile, several misandrist subs have carte blanche to say whatever they want about men. I really struggle to understand why some men’s rights advocates are commemorating the MGTOW ban. What’s there to celebrate in the fact that misogyny isn’t tolerated, but misandry is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 08:18 PM
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Because the most popular and active feminist sub at the time (gender critical) was banned. Along with other favorites like PinkPillFeminism. And rumor was that FDS would be next. It’s interesting how feminist/womansphere subs are only banned or targeted when they’re accused of transphobia. They have carte blanche to say whatever they want about cis men. If the administration of this site operated with a modicum of fairness, even the likes of r/feminism would’ve been banned as well, considering h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/21 01:07 PM
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I have to hate masturbation Why?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:55 AM
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Aren’t there words like BAME already? Why do they keep the word salad going? Jesus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/21 12:37 AM
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The malementalhealth sub is cancerous. Gaslighting, feminist apologists, people who care more about defending the “male privilege” narrative than about the mental health of men… To sum up, the same thing as everywhere else. Many users there are also active ons subs like fragilewhiteredditor, so there’s no way they even cared about the mental health of men in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 07:23 PM
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with both partners having the liberty to transfer a portion of their entitlement to the other as they deem fit. Men would just give their leave to their partners, which would end up robbing them of precious time with their children, while women would effectively still be subjected to hiring discrimination, with even longer maternity leaves than they had before. I think equal and non-transferable parental leave is the best scenario for everyone involved. Could be wrong, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 10:19 PM
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Women, by contrast said their main motivation in going online was self-affirmation, in other words to feel good, rather than seeking a committed relationship or sex, the authors said. Lol, imagine using dating apps for validation and “to feel good” and then trying to dispute the experience of men who have a miserable experience there. Feeling good is the antithesis of the experience most guys have in those apps. But sure, having to filter all of your 100 messages is totally as frustrating as get…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:49 PM
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So the issue doesn’t exist because you don’t feel personally affected by it, basically?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 04:45 PM
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I have held the "80/20" theory for a while now but just applied to beauty standards-- 80% of women are socially considered "attractive" by societal standards. Skinny, thick, average, etc., are all considered desirable body types. Which is why I hold the belief that being sexualized in the way women are is much more of privilege than most people like to admit. Yeah, a privilege that can backfire and comes with a whole set of annoyances and problems, but still a privilege nonetheless. One of the m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 03:11 PM
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This is very interesting. At least when it comes to the lesbians women I knew and seen, they seemed to have very, very relaxed beauty standards. This is also true for a lot of bisexual women who didn’t have high standards for women, but had absurd standards for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 11:51 AM
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I think he just misunderstood your question, like you were asking our perspective about the women on the movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/21 09:00 PM
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I have a friend in a similar situation. An outspoken feminist, by the way. We know each other for six years and she is currently in her third abusive relationship. It’s almost like an addiction. In the second one, her boyfriend explicitly confessed his abusive tendencies before they started their relationship. He said he wouldn’t change. She knew what he was and knowingly decided to engage in a relationship. And you know what’s worse? When those relationships end (and she often breaks up with he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/21 11:41 AM
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It’s not that they didn’t face adversities, but that trying to frame the historical relationships between men and women as something akin to the relationship between a master and a slave is simply ludicrous.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 05:51 PM
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It's probably a consequence of woke idpol liberalism targeting and appealing to those demographics. It probably has a hand. This mentality doesn’t seem exclusive to idpol feminists, though. It’s just that it sticks out like a sore thumb in their case, as it betrays their own values and teachings when it comes to things like empowerment and financial independence. But there are plenty of women who vehemently reject idpol (like tradcon women) and women with no greater life philosophy who still sha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 05:41 PM
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I actually think many of these women can attract “high value men” without an insane amount of effort for strictly sexual relationships, their issue is that they can’t engage in long term relationships with them. They also have a large “pool” to select from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 05:27 PM
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I mean, I don’t think you’re wrong. It’s not something I can demonstrate, but it’s the pattern I noticed as well. Black men’s rights advocates can probably back this up (r/BMJA comes to mind). FDS resonates a lot with “diva” attitude of some black and latina women, specially in places like the US. Women from such minorities seem to be much more upfront about their standards and even more misandrist than white women. They also have much more liberty to extend their misandry to men from their own …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 04:15 PM
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This is actually the reason for the “red pill rage”. It’s not that angry men are resentful of women for not giving them what they want, but that these men were fed lies all their lives. People have no qualms when it comes to lying to men. There’s a huge disconnect between what men are told and what’s actually expected of them. To have your understanding of the world shattered like this is a traumatic process that most people aren’t even willing to acknowledge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:42 PM
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To “prevent misogyny”, I guess? I know that men on the spectrum tend to be more aware of some types of behaviors that no one is apparently allowed to talk about. If you’re a man and want to talk about relationships and women, you’re only allowed to go so far. Anything that paints women in a bad light or suggests that there are toxic/confusing behaviors that are widely acceptable when performed by females is not tolerated. I hear a lot of complaints from autistic men about how some women fully ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 03:58 PM
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What was their justification?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/21 02:48 PM
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I was thinking more about how some classic radfem rhetoric is accepted on the sub when adjusted to their marxist leanings, like the anti-porn and sex work narrative, which I’ve seen being endorsed on the sub a few times, just more in an anti-capitalist way instead of purely anti-male (except it was totally a disguise, as I browsed some people’s post history and they were as misandric as it gets).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/21 01:40 AM
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Some of them are supportive of radfems and seem to believe they shouldn’t be equated to the other branches of feminism. Apparently, misandry is ok as long as you’re a marxist. There’s some good criticism of identity politics there, but I’d be careful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/21 12:51 AM
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It’s all really tiresome. And I’m not even white. I wouldn’t really say this is exclusive to left wing spaces, though. Any man who doesn’t live in a bubble will be exposed to this constantly. I mean, everyone follows newspapers and stuff. You’re bound to see attacks on man eventually. There’s no peace of spirit here. There’s simply not a button you can push to stop seeing this kind of content. Feminists and the woke crowd have no idea of the emotional toll of this demonization. It’s one thing wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/21 12:13 AM
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I wonder how many Jewish and Muslim feminists (or feminists married with someone from those religions) who advocate for the end of genital mutilation for girl have mutilated their sons themselves. Or even how many have done it for purely “aesthetics and health” reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/21 07:23 PM
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So by your logic one would be a fascist for saying that public universities shouldn’t offer, let’s say, Christian courses? No, I don’t think it’s in the best interest of society to allow certain groups to appropriate public funds to disseminate ideological and borderline religious thinking that isn’t necessarily shared by those providing such funds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/21 10:58 PM
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I wouldn’t call things like gender studies useful. I’m sure there are better things to do with the taxpayer’s money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/21 10:03 PM
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It could be because you’re a man, sure. Just like boys, young girls interact way less with adult male figures than they do with female ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 08:55 PM
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None of the behaviors you mentioned strikes me as particularly gendered, but I wasn’t there to know the whole story. But yeah, if experience is worth something, I notice that there’s a big problem with girls who can’t stand not being in the spotlight. Some of them get even depressed when they’re not. I’ve seen this firsthand and it’s genuinely concerning. Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t a gendered thing: men and boys can and very often are attention seekers (I guess everyone had that one attentio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 08:04 PM
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I just hate this attitude from these guys. If he deals fine with rejection, good for him, but a lot of men have a hard time with it. Men aren’t a monolith. Guys like this are just bullies who look down on any men who fails to perform traditional masculinity. It’s so ironic that many of them subscribe to the toxic masculinity narrative. I wish people would berate girls who are cruel with guys and make the process of rejection already harder than it is as harshly as they try to punish guys for bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/21 12:42 PM
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Sounds like a painful and sad history. I’m sorry. :(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 09:15 PM
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I think awareness about this subject is slowly growing. I see more and more pages about growing up with narcissistic mothers on Facebook, for example. It really surprises me, because it goes against the “women good” narrative. The only reason this is happening, though, is because a lot of women (including many who would subscribe to “women are wonderful” otherwise) grew up with this kind of mother, so they feel particularly drawn to such subject. Women have a lot of power when it comes to decidi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 09:14 PM
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and society cares more about mothers than it does children That’s the conclusion I came to as well. I think it makes sense, from a biological standpoint. A woman was a valuable and immediate “resource”, while there was no guarantee that your children would even grown old enough to become “resources” themselves, so I guess it made sense to prioritize the safety of women back then in order to have a functioning society, but this likely shaped our vision to this day and skews our judgment about ver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 03:33 PM
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I don’t think this does much in our favor, as feminists will probably just counter it with something along the lines of “internal misogyny” or “patriarchy”, but it is an interesting piece of history nonetheless. One of the things I dislike the most about feminism is how they try to examine history through modern lenses and just assume women back then had the same priorities and desires as women today. It’s usually a shitshow when this subject emerges and men’s rights activists make their argumen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 02:58 PM
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Archived version without paywall.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 11:03 AM
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Yeah, I mean on paper, not how it actually works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/21 12:45 AM
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I hadn’t actually read that. This genuinely makes my blood boil. And this is coming from a sub that was supposed to help men. Instead, they’re advised to just give up any dreams of getting to leadership positions, completely disregard presumption of innocence and never believe a word of what a man says if it contradicts a woman and live a life completely dedicated to women and their needs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 10:30 PM
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No doubt. This is the kind of content they’re interested in discussing. These guys just want people to conform to their religion and discuss things on their own terms, which will achieve nothing other than victim blaming men for their problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 02:34 PM
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I think the mod is trying to avoid being accused of having any ideological background. He doesn’t strike me as a bad or biased person, as far as I’ve seen, but the sub is still a cesspool. I don’t post there much, unless it’s about something I lived myself, a medication I took, etc. But I do call out people who are active on misandrist subs. It’s already bad enough when people infiltrate an activism sub to derail the conversations, but to actually go to a MENTAL HEALTH sub, one of the few places…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 01:04 PM
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They are bored. Like can you imagine Brazil police doing stuff like that when there are murders and violence every day? Lol, I can, actually. Even with all the problems in the country, the tax funded feminist lobby is fighting for things like revoking the already fragile law against parental alienation. There’s a project about to be approved that criminalizes “psychological damage” against women. The project, besides being gendered, has a very vague text and anyone with a modicum of common sense…
/r/MensRights13/07/21 12:37 PM
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I’ll believe feminism is doing something for men when they start lobbying for something that benefits exclusively men and not them by extension. Even better, something that would be the right thing to do in the name of equality and that comes at the cost of some of their privileges, like making the retirement age of women match the retirement age of men in the several countries where women can retire earlier or fighting so that women are also conscripted until we can completely abolish conscript…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 10:30 AM
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Those are the numbers I found as well. Again, I wouldn’t they are as rare as you mentioned. For the sake of comparison, Asian Americans are like 6.5% of the American population. Would you say that Asian Americans are almost nonexistent? Otherwise, yeah, I can agree with you. I have noticed this phenomenon as well. It would make for an interesting conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 11:28 PM
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I can't believe they actually said that it was justifiable to harass an innocent man just because there are some bad ones out there. You hear the same type of argument about false rape allegations. Believe women automatically, and if a few innocent men get sent to jail over it then its acceptable collateral if it means catching more actual rapists. It's pure selfishness. With false rape accusations, I think the process is a lot more subconscious. They know that if they think about the subject, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 10:53 PM
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Ftr I never claimed anything else. I just said that tons of generally racist behavior, including remarks about people's appearances, supposed traits etc, can be engaged in by women of all ethnic groups against people of other groups in ways that would get men into trouble way faster. And I said I don’t disagree with your assessment, but white women who act suspiciously of men from specific minorities that were historically considered “dangerous” such as black men and latinos can’t definitely get…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 10:14 PM
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To be fair, it seems that she took a break from everything. She might still make a comeback eventually. I certainly hope she does. I miss her videos, the Honey Badger podcasts with her, etc. She is definitely a force of nature inside the MRM and I’ve seen people do a complete 180 on their opinion after watching some of her content.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 06:51 PM
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Same sex couples who adopt (and straight couples who adopt too) tend to have higher incomes, right? I’m not saying that money is everything that goes into raising a child, but it seems right to assume that non-traditional families (including single mothers that adopted) who actually planned to have children and have a stable financial condition can succeed in ways that non-traditional families who struggle with money and organization can’t. I don’t know any non-traditional family like this, thou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 06:04 PM
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They do it in the West as well, just for different reasons (and not as severely). When you believe boys and girls are the same and that biology and hormones have no say in how people behave, one might get to the conclusion that girl are better than boys and then chastise boys for it, specially under education systems that put so much emphasis on organization and stillness, things that are definitely not the specialty of young boys. I don’t know much about Asian education, but I suppose Asian soc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 05:15 PM
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Do they really get called out that much for things like this? Tons of women, of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds, seem to easily get away with lots of racist bullshit in ways that men generally do not. I don’t disagree with you, but white women can definitely get called out for this kind of behavior. There are a few cases like that in the US that had very bad repercussions for the women involved, with public reaction overwhelmingly against these women. Thing is, people are willing to recognize ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 04:40 PM
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Yeah. I often think about such terminologies as well, but more in a context of gender roles. It wouldn’t be as bad as it is if they only called gender roles sexist, but it’s just ludicrous how they try to frame the whole thing as “systems of oppression”. They dislike (certain) gender roles? Fine, so do I, but at least try to understand why these roles came to be in the first place instead of suggesting that some evil men sat around a table and decided which instruments they would use to oppress …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 03:58 PM
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Here it goes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 02:33 PM
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It’s so curious how defensive some people get when this conversation comes up, specially when someone mentions how much more funding female shelters receive. It’s very rare for these conversations to end without victim blaming or a hint of female superiority. Like, “Women have shelters because women fought for it”. Feminists love to treat their achievements as only their own, but let’s be real, they would still be doing their clumsy terrorism and begging for the privilege of voting without havin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 11:22 AM
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I haven’t seen this particular video, but I watched several ones from the Honey Badger Radio YT channel, specially the podcasts, and I remember Prim being very critical of feminism. I mean, she certainly seemed to be the moderate face of the group when compared the other ones, but she more often than not would agree with more radical ones like Karen Straughan, who is usually much more incisive in her criticisms of feminism. I also liked the videos I watched on her channel. There are many types o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/21 05:54 PM
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Yeah, I was pretty sure “misandric” was a thing in english, as it’s so often used (in the subs I’m active anyway). It still doesn’t recognize any variation of the word in my original language, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 03:01 PM
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Lol, I’d do it in a heartbeat. I’m very well aware of the disadvantages and would still take them gladly. You know why? Because no matter the problem I had, people wouldn’t gaslight me into believing my problems are something like rich people problems and that they don’t exist at all. Instead, I’d find support and validation from people of my own gender and most of the opposite one. You know something you’re denied constantly as a men? Piece of spirit. No matter how much you limit your circles, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 10:56 AM
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See? I’m not making this shit up. A man would be fucking FIRED if he did that to female athletes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 07:02 PM
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Women with normal bodies are praised because they're not fat, meaning they are more active and contribute more in the society on top of being mothers and carers for youngsters. I mean, the ideal ancient greek woman, the woman of the oikos, is hardly a model of activity and contribution to society, excluding their obvious capacity for child bearing. If you wanna think about a society with strict gender roles for both men and women, that’s Ancient Greece for you. Thing is, there’s plenty of statue…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 01:07 PM
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I’m aware of yaois/bl, but I don’t really have a problem with women who are excited by gay action. I’m gay myself, but I don’t think anyone is “entitled” to a sexually. Like, I always found ludicrous how some lesbians take issue with men who like lesbians porn. I do think there’s merit in calling out the hypocrisy of men who hold homophobe views but enjoy lesbians porn, but calling out men for simply liking it is a bit too much for my taste. But back to the issue, I admit I’m not too aware of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 12:11 PM
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I find it so funny when people show the double standards of sites like Buzzfeed. Some articles are all about criticizing female sexualization and bodyshaming, only to be followed by another article mocking an actor for not having a big enough bulge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 11:26 AM
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Not all men, but some of them definitely do. I think it’s important to distinguish the realm of pornography from the realm of entertainment. When it comes to pornography, women are still the vast majority of objects of sexualization, even though women watch porn too. When it comes to entertainment such as literature, movies, TV shows, things are much, much more blurred. The trend I have noticed is that men usually separate their entertainment from their pornography. I just can’t see a product ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 11:23 AM
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Go back to ancient Greece and you will see the evidence of a completely different trend Will we, though? Because the trend I notice is the same I notice today: women with normal bodies being praised, while only peak performance men with idealized bodies were worthy of depiction. Things haven’t changed much in this regard. I agree with your comment otherwise. I don’t think sexualization is necessarily bad when you celebrate several kinds of body, which is why I usually find the complaints feminis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 10:26 AM
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It’s just so laughable how feminism managed to turn one of the greatest privileges offered to anyone in human history into oppression. I fucking refuse to accept the narrative that women who were fucking FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED by their partners were oppressed. No, I’m not saying it was perfect. Nothing ever is, but there are some heavy mental gymnastics here to twist things here. Feminism thrives by highlighting all the efforts of women and erasing the efforts of men. If feminists think that bein…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 07:50 PM
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I mean, say what you want about Jordan Peterson. I have my own disagreements with him, but he’s very good when it comes to debating feminists specifically. So is Karen Straughan. I wish she got into more debates. I think very few feminists have the power of rhetoric to keep up with her. Usually the debates with her end up with the other side shamelessly resorting to feelings, anecdotes or outright offenses, while she keeps her ground and remains as factual as ever. I have seen people do a comple…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 03:09 PM
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KAREN. KAREN Ugh. This is a classic. And a very dreadful one too. Luckily people are overwhelmingly on her side in the comment section.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/21 03:00 PM
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Ugh. Please, no. The “allyship” is definitely one of the worst things about feminism and I truly hope the MRA doesn’t adhere to that. It doesn’t seem to be the case, thankfully.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 11:55 PM
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Yeah, this sums up pretty well. And ideas like male privilege and oppression of women by men is where most ideologies find common ground. I’d commend feminism for doing such a fine job, but I guess it’s easy to do so when you have such a strong weapon as pro-female bias on your side. Even people who are otherwise factual and willing to engage in good faith arguments will quickly turn to feelings and anecdotes when confronted about such views.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 01:43 PM
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Maybe they should add their own site as a questionable source. Whoever wrote this probably doesn’t think of him/herself as biased. There’s no bias in affirming that the sky is blue and the water is wet, right? And when you have an ideology whose teachings are so entrenched in society, even in intelectual discourse, these teachings eventually become as factual as the laws of physics. It reminds me of how baffled some people looked at me when I said I don’t believe we live in a patriarchy, just li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/21 11:28 AM
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Not deflecting your question, but I’ve read that you’re a Christian, so why exactly do you seem to exempt Christianity from criticism when it comes to misogyny? Regardless of your own interpretation, there’s plenty of misogynistic content in the Bible as well. As I said, I’m not deflecting the question, much less defending Islam. I hate when people dodge criticism against other religions by bringing Christianity into the conversation, but it also strikes me as weird when Christians criticize oth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 07:24 PM
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1/ Do not feed the troll: do not fight feminism directly at all, let them discredit themselves, the pushback is inevitable and will probably start in the academia itself. Yeah, don’t count on it. I can’t see feminism’s grip over academia fading anytime soon. You’re barely allowed to have speakers with non-mainstream visions on colleges, let alone teachers. And not many students would be willing to jeopardize their professional careers by speaking out against such an entrenched dogma, sadly. You’…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:40 PM
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This is one of the many things that, while factually correct, is usually only mentioned to denigrate men. The mainstream narratives we know only thrived by ignoring the kind of effort men put into child raising while simultaneously uplifting women for their kind of effort and encouraging them to hold such effort against men. These narratives also benefited greatly from the fact that your average breadwinning man doesn’t even have the time or the habit of complaining. Women did the majority of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/21 06:09 PM
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Your number one suggestion seems much more reasonable. One strawman I always hear in such discussions is the suggestion that people want to remove the power of choice from women. It’s not about that at all. Thing is, people are comfortable calling out male shallowness in a way they’ll never be comfortable doing with women. I wonder what those who oppose this discussion would do if they crossed with a nerd, reclusive and overweight man who is obviously struggling with loneliness, but refuses to c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/21 10:45 PM
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I’m not very familiar with Canada, but everything I read about missing people there, about the “Highway of Tears”, was all about women. Not surprised to learn that there’s bias here too. If I had to guess, I’d say that most people must assume that a good part of those men weren’t innocent to begin with and were involved in shady business, while they don’t make the same assumptions for women. I have certainly heard this reasoning in crime forums before as a justification for why crimes against fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/21 11:51 AM
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Scrap the unscientific idea that "it's all a social construct", or you'll die a virgin. I’m not sure that’s the best way of wording what you wanna say, specially on a men’s rights sub where most people have already heard this sentence ad nauseam, usually as a way of dismissing their problems. Not necessarily saying that that’s what you’re doing, but it is an unfortunate sentence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 02:48 PM
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Well, I always say that men’s rights movements should create specific terms for such behaviors. Feminism thrived by naming and commodifying every single interaction between men and women and by actively encouraging women to hold such things against men. That’s why you hear all this talk about emotional labor (I’m pretty sure they weren’t the ones who coined the term, but they sure as hell abuse it), about unpaid work at home, etc, etc. Everything is a transaction. As shallow as it sounds, I thin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 02:31 PM
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Practically, you should create a life that a woman would want to nest herself in. So basically you have to improve yourself and achieve material success in the hopes that a possible partner will consider you attractive by the way of life, comfort and experiences you can provide her? It makes sense, according to what I see out there, but it’s still a very sad thing to hear. So you’re expected to love unconditionally, even die for your partner if need be, but receive conditional love that depends …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 02:23 PM
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I agree. And I remember I noticed this when I was still very young and started developing a sense of reciprocity. When I found out I wasn’t romantically and sexually interested in women, as weird as it sounds, I was kind of relieved, because it opened a world of possibilities outside those courtship dynamics I used to see. This is why I sometimes think I’d be an incel/MGTOW or something if I were straight. It’s not that I wouldn’t want to approach the opposite gender and be the initiator, but be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 11:02 AM
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Not gay people. Radfem bigotry is specifically against gay men. Against anyone who was born a male, actually. They can get away with their misandry against men who identify with their birth gender, though. They’re only condemned by mainstream feminism because many of them are transphobic. It’s totally ok to be misandric and even a homophobe if you’re a woman and a feminist. And the more oppression points they have, the more they can get away with their bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/21 04:26 PM
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Tumblr definitely has some of the craziest feminists out there. So much crazy stuff I’ve seen. Also, radfems are a special kind of scum. I’d be interesting to create a quiz like “Was the following sentence said by a church pastor or a radfem?”. It’s hard to tell them apart.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/21 04:20 PM
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Has anyone here actually seen some suggestions by women’s rights groups about rape cases that didn’t involve empowering the accuser at the expense of the accused’s ability to defend themselves? I honestly haven’t. At least not lately. Even if you go to places where feminists are willing to discuss in good faith with men’s rights activists and acknowledge that false rape accusations indeed exist and aren’t “as rare as get struck by a lightning”, they’ll still go around in circles and end up makin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/21 09:04 PM
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I think you could’ve worded this post better, OP. I agree with your message: women have a way out, so they stopped killing their abusive husbands at the same rate they used to, so the same could also apply to husbands who kill their abusive wives. But let’s not forget that the empathy that other people have for men is sadly not the same empathy they have for women. Let’s not forget that people can only see the female vulnerability against the male physical power, but they can’t acknowledge the m…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:39 PM
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It’s funny how this kind of virtue signaling is always aimed at gay men, though. Only gay men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 11:10 AM
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Homophobia against men? Misogyny. Homophobia against women? Misogyny. Transphobia against trans women? Misogyny. Transphobia against trans men? Misogyny. Men getting longer sentences for the same crimes and dealing with court bias in family courts? Fruit of a misogynistic system designed to subjugate women to caregiving positions and that sees them as weak. Bias in favor of girls in education? Yeah, you already know what that is, right? Such is the parasitic nature of feminism. They want monopol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 11:00 AM
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If men and women treated women the same way they treat men, I think we would see a huge decrease in female levels of happiness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/21 11:21 AM
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I can recall a moment where this difference hit home. A couple of years into my medical gender transition, I was traveling on a public bus early one weekend morning. There were six people on the bus, including me. One was a woman. She was talking on a mobile phone very loudly and remarked that “men are such a–holes.” I immediately looked up at her and then around at the other men. Not one had lifted his head to look at the woman or anyone else. The woman saw me look at her and then commented to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/21 11:02 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210107084751if_/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/21 10:38 AM
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Hmmm, username checks out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/21 11:58 AM
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Yep. I’m genuinely baffled when I see comments like the above, specially towards people who are actually acknowledging some of the legal issues we’re always talking about. So much saltiness. In any case, I’m incredibly sorry you’re going through that. I hope it turns out well for you. At least it sounds you’re in a comfortable enough position to not be deprived of decency, which is good. Now it’s up to the father to make the process as easy as possible for the children, which should always be a …
/r/MensRights19/06/21 01:48 PM
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Then someone starts a conversation about male issues in a female space and is accused of detracting of women’s issues. Then you proceed to join a movement that addresses male issues, but you’re in the wrong, because feminism already addresses such problems in the first place. Feminism is about equality for everyone, then it’s aimed at women only, then is for everyone, then it isn’t. As always, nothing that men do is ever good enough. You’re just supposed to sit there and wait for them to solve a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 11:47 AM
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What’s more frustrating is that every time there’s a discussion about men’s issues on a “neutral” sub, people always recommend menslib. Usually after bashing the mensrights sub and telling how radical they are. Don’t get me wrong, I have my issues with mensrights (and I’m often there voicing them), but anything is better than the watered down version of men’s rights that is menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 10:01 AM
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This one aspect that in your situation that the custody will go to the father will be a huge saving factor for him. It will be also very good for your daughters, too, because girls also need their father very badly. I mean, you don’t really know much about their father to affirm that. And they need a mother figure too. The MRA fights for 50/50 custody to be the default, not for men to be the sole parents with custody. Imagine if a father posted about such issues on a feminist sub and they said t…
/r/MensRights19/06/21 09:36 AM
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Jesus, are you getting paid to be a dick?
/r/MensRights19/06/21 02:22 AM
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Nope. Never heard of fragile femininity, of toxic femininity and very rarely I hear people defining what a real/true woman is. Masculinity, on the other hand, is always seen as something conditional. You need to earn it and it can be stripped away from you if you slip.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 11:11 AM
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I dunno, the impression I have these days is that right wing platforms are more willing to embrace diversity of ideas than left wing ones. Too much talk about idpol diversity, too little diversity of thought.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/21 03:09 PM
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It’s also interesting how many female users just assume in-group bias to be the default. “We’re women, so it’s natural that we feel more interested and touched by cases involving female victims”. Except men also care more about female victims than they care about male ones, because men have outgroup bias. It resonates with something I hear sometimes: the reason feminism and things like patriarchy theory make so much sense to some women is because they assume men have the same biases as they do. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/21 09:33 PM
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Sorry. I couldn’t read everything. This shit is almost dystopian and makes me wanna puke. Will they be asking women to contribute more with the expenses on Mother’s Day? Will they ask women to climb on roofs, lift weights, make repairs and mow the lawn? Will they ask women to be ready to sacrifice their very lives for their husbands the same way husbands are expected to die for their wives? What about female selective service? This ideology is disgusting and thrives by ignoring the fact that men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/21 07:46 PM
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Thing is, you’ll always be detracting from female issues, because the mainstream narrative has genuinely convinced society that women are getting the short end of the stick in all areas, even those that are worse for men. For example, I like to read about crimes, mysteries and stuff, and was surprised yesterday when a woman created a post on a popular crime sub drawing attention to the fact that, despite men being the majority of victims of violent deaths, most true crime content is about female…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/21 07:30 PM
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Anarchists are some of the most devout feminist white knights I’ve ever came across. So much for people who allegedly hate identity politics. Disagree with feminist dogma in front of them and see how quick they’ll resort to things like virgin-shaming. Good luck trying to argue with people who think they’re gonna change the world with bullying. Props to feminism for managing to turn men from the whole left into their guard dogs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/21 03:31 PM
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That has been my experience in these spaces as well. Men earn status based on their ability to bash their own color and gender. This also applies to women when it comes to color, though more in a sense of social acceptance. For men, it’s both about social acceptance and a part of the dating game. I almost feel bad for those guys. Almost. Dancing like birds with their feathers, under the scrutiny of the opposite sex. And you definitely can’t exaggerate in your moves or you’ll break your potential…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/21 02:19 PM
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It is, men are suited to protect and win bread, women to nurture children, this is the basis of a functional society, it works best. Nope. That’s just how you want to live. If a man doesn’t feel like supporting a woman financially and wants a partner who contributes equally when it comes to bills, is he less of a man? Am I less worth as a man just because I’m not attracted to women? Can’t I contribute to a function society? Is a man who don’t want to have a relationship less man than you? Or eve…
/r/MensRights16/06/21 12:38 PM
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Gender roles being loosened isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s also an inevitable consequence of technology/modernity. The problem is when only one gender can opt freely between which gender roles they want and which ones they don’t according to what benefits them, while men are stuck in the same genders roles as always. Not only that, but feminists actually fight actively to enforce such roles on men when it benefits women, but not necessarily benefits men.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 11:06 AM
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Nope. There’s no such thing as true masculinity. Stop narrowing the concept to fit your chivalrous views. All it takes to be a true man is… to be a man. Tradcons are just as misandric as feminists. I hope this sub realizes that. A man’s value shouldn’t be dictated by how useful he is to women or how much he is willing to sacrifice.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 02:48 PM
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You know what’s curious? Feminism encourages women to turn everything they do into a commodity and hold it against men, but they fail to realize how it could backfire. The emotional support you offer to your partner? Commodity. The chores you do in the house? Commodity. The time you spend with your children? Commodity. Imagine a world where men were as petty and also started coming up with names to delineate and commodify everything they do? Because in a world where men are the ones paying the m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/21 12:33 PM
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Looked your post history and the thread you’re talking about. I genuinely have no idea why said moderator is making such a fuss. I’ve seen many threads with similar questions and all of them went smooth. Going by her logic, you shouldn’t create any post talking about trans people ever, because there’s always the possibility of a bigoted comment. About Askmen itself, yeah, I’m not a fan of the sub. I’ve heard people on r/MensRights talking good things about their moderation, telling they’re usual…
/r/MensRights15/06/21 11:05 AM
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In their foolishness, I think feminism has worked as hard as they can to deconstruct hundreds of years of socializing men to be protective of women. Not at all. Some of their most repeated points this year is that men aren’t calling out abusers and are not doing enough to protect women. Feminism is just the new chivalry. Gender roles for thee, not for me (except when it’s beneficial). Such feminists wouldn’t last a year without heavy therapy if it wasn’t for the “filthy male socialization” cater…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/21 03:24 AM
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I’m not that familiar with Cathy Young, but you can’t just get women like Christina Hoff Summers and Camille Paglia and use them as examples of good feminists. They are their own thing. No matter how they insist on using such label, we all know deep down that they’re not feminists and only describe themselves as such out of convenience. And that’s alright. I’m not criticizing them at all. Maybe such labeling was also part of a wish to change the movement for the best. I don’t know. But we cannot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 04:25 PM
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It’s curious how often they make a correlation between small penises and misogyny. Either that or they attribute certain attitudes they dislike to having small dick or not having enough sex. And I wouldn’t say they’re punishing a minority. The vast majority of guys don’t have porn-sized genitals and many of them are very insecure about their size. They might not have a condition, but this kind of bodyshaming still gets to them. It’s crazy how the majority of male population is apparently defecti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 03:52 AM
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I get it. It’s exhausting, right? I wish I had an answer. It might seem like a minor thing, but you know something that women have that envy deeply? The right to peace of spirit when frequenting online and social spaces IRL. To not be criticized, directly or not, for being who you are. To not be blamed for all that’s wrong in the world and to rest assured knowing that not all your own problems were caused by you. What most people fail to realize is that this whole culture have have a tool on mal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 12:56 AM
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It’s a very good analysis and summarizes my thoughts as well. As it’s often mentioned on this sub, what feminism itself does is propose a new kind of chivalry, which is only the old one with a different clothing. “Women’s liberation” stands exactly for what it says: women’s liberation and only that. Also, everything you said is aggravated by the constant deification of the female. Not only do many women want to uphold the traditional male role while being simultaneously exempt from theirs, but t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 11:23 PM
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Why are they so mean? Because 1) They don’t see the subjects of their torture as beings with feelings and insecurities and 2) They are certain of their impunity. This might sound harsh and counterproductive, but hear me out: bodyshaming against men won’t stop until we begin fighting fire with fire. You know something women have that men don’t? Sense of their value as a group. See what happens when a man goes out of his way to bodyshame women or simply state his preferences online. Most women do …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 11:00 PM
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Fatshaming is ok when done against men, specially if he’s nerd, virgin and/or against your views. Body positivity benefits women only.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 10:40 PM
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When women are killed over jealousy, that's often called a femicide (like basically any murder of a woman) because jealousy is not a valid excuse and therefore the gender was the reason... They adopted the concept of femicide where I live. In practice, many police stations assume that any female death is a femicide by DEFAULT, only ruling it out if the investigations lead to a different direction. But since many crimes aren’t solved, some of these cases keep inflating the numbers of femicides, e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 09:14 PM
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And once more feminists demand men to put themselves in their shoes and give them what they want, except they’re not even willing to put themselves in men’s shoes. Sadly, I wasn’t given the privilege of getting the things I want by shouting like a parrot and offending people, so I must keep walking on eggshells and play nice to avoid hurting some egos. What baffles me the most is that at no moment these women thought they could offend the guys who are on their side, specially by reinforcing a fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 07:33 PM
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Then leave it like that. Absolutely do not read anything about the sequel.
/r/MensRights12/06/21 03:40 PM
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And then the sequel goes full woke. Not surprising, given that the main writer and producer is a huge fan of Anita Sarkeesian, one of the most disingenuous feminists out there who makes a living by criticizing “sexist” games. A real shame, since the first game was indeed very good.
/r/MensRights12/06/21 03:06 PM
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Men have changed so many words to make women more comfortable. Policeman -> police office, fireman -> firefighter. I mean, there were even bills for that. There are so many examples. Still, when men beg feminists to stop using terms like patriarchy and toxic masculinity, they do all kinds of mental gymnastics and condescendingly explain why YOU shouldn’t feel offended by these terms. And when you realize this shitty ideology has contaminated even how therapists treat men who are seeking HELP, yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 11:28 AM
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Trying to explain the problems of intersectional feminism, or any kind of feminism, to someone who frequents the menwritingwomen sub would be just like trying to use sign language to communicate with a blind person. Just letting they know what they’re dealing with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 09:20 PM
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It is very dangerous, though. When you’re surrounded by identity politics, gender critical feminists have a way of sounding more reasonable than the others. But for all their talk about the struggles of the working class, they still hold deeply misandric views. Even more so than their mainstream sisters. My fear is that the current state of mainstream feminism and identity politics leads to a mass migration to radfem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 09:14 PM
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I also never said you were a conservative Also you Fuck off with conservative trolling
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 04:41 PM
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To me it seems you need to reevaluate your worldview. If your left is so precious that you fail to realize how they breed misandry and suppress diversity of thought, then I can’t see how you can even begin to contribute to this cause. As I said in my previous reply to you, this sub is rather critical of the left, so if you can’t stand this, I think you’re the one in the wrong place. And the mods have repeated time after time that this sub welcomes people of all leanings, including right wingers …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 03:50 PM
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??? The sub’s name doesn’t mean the left can’t be criticized. Otherwise, we’d be acting just like feminists. This sub is rather critical of the left wing, btw. And rightfully so. It seems you are in the wrong here. And to assume I’m a conservative just because I’m critical of the left? Please. I urge you to get out of this fairytale and come to the real world, where the left is actively breeding misandry and intolerance to diversity of thought.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 03:40 PM
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The stupidity of the of the left wing and identity politics are certainly gateway drugs to the alt-right, that much I can tell you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 11:01 AM
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Many marxists reject idpol, but not necessarily feminism. Sadly, things like radfem grow popular among marxists, because radfems often have marxist leanings themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 10:56 AM
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Have you seen the gaming industry? It’s one of the worst when it comes to that. Not that the average gamer cares about that, but gaming journalism is dominated by the left. There is no way you can get to write to popular gaming sites without being a leftist. As a result, there’s very little diversity. And game producers do a great deal of effort to cater to such journalists, because many of them are woke themselves. Several people have been fired or harassed out of the industry for having opposi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/21 10:45 AM
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How can any of this be true when their next step is spreading misinformation about false rape accusations? Repeating the textbook definition of feminism means nothing when they keep pushing narratives that are harmful to men. Feminists have been repeating this mantra for years and they’ve proven they’re more than capable of conciliating it with their misandric agenda. How can you convince them when they can’t even recognize that what they’re preaching is misandry in the first place? When they ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 01:03 PM
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What’s scary is that this is a price that feminists are willing to “pay” (which won’t be paid by them at all). Male lives are worth so little to them that they ask us to just accept the possibility of being wrongfully convicted without complaining. And this isn’t some radfem idea or anything. All strains of feminism, mainstream or not, minimize false rape accusations. All strains of feminism gaslight men who dare defending their right to presumption of innocence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 11:30 AM
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Is the United States prepared to offer benefits for men, though? Surely, they wouldn’t expect men to be ready to give up their lives and dreams to protect their country in the eventuality of a war without anything in return, right? After all, imposing more duties on certain citizens than others without offering anything to compensate for that isn’t something I’d expect from a country that values its freedom and fairness so much, right? And seeing that there’s no will among conservatives and prog…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/21 07:42 PM
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It’s so funny when feminists ask for examples of “bad feminism” or feminism screwing men over. I mean, just look at the biggest fucking feminist organization in the US and you’ll get your answer.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 03:07 PM
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Didn’t their Florida chapter also lobbied to veto alimony reform bills? So much for equality and female emancipation, right?
/r/MensRights08/06/21 02:31 PM
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I’m gonna be honest with you, I think a lot of the so called bisexual issues are greatly overstated (not necessarily the ones you’re talking about, but things like bi erasure and lack of representation, which you mentioned yourself). Our society tends to blow some minor inconveniences out of proportion. Sometimes it’s stereotypes like “Asians are intelligent” or “Jews have money”, sometimes it’s things that can have an actual impact on your daily life, like women complaining about the time they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/21 02:21 PM
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Wouldn’t expect anything different from NOW. What a fucking cancerous organization.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 11:58 AM
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Yeah, I linked this among some of the absurdities of the sub. Not sure if the links are working, though. I mean, look at this. This coming from a sub that was supposed to help men. People bend over and backwards to defend feminism, to the point that it takes precedence over male mental health. It’s really sad. I think I’m in a stable emotional place now, but even so, such things make my blood boil. Now imagine what it does to men who are going through custody battles, false rape and DV accusatio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 09:04 PM
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Just a few examples that come to mind https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/comments/mryswk/to_those_who_subscribe_to_feminism_you_cant/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/comments/msacjz/mens_liberation_feminisms_alright/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://np.reddit.com/r/malementalhealth/comments/nq6fni/91_of_middleaged_men_who_committed_suicide_were/h090gvy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 07:19 PM
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And yet, people on the MaleMentalHealth sub continue gaslighting men who had negative experiences with feminism or trying to convince them that their problem isn’t with feminism, but with certain individuals. That and labeling the MRAs as incels. How many men will need to come forward and talk about how feminism is ruining their mental health until they’re taken seriously? How can creating excuses and propagating an ideology take precedence over male mental health?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 06:35 PM
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Singaporean men on reddit take no shit, apparently. Good for them. Were it another sub, the comments would be full of submission and feminism apology by male feminists.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 03:07 PM
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Lol, OP is a devout defender of patriarchal theory and “positive discrimination”, so no surprises here. All he/she does here is antagonize and berate people for not sharing his/her views about feminism. I’m not very active here, but I see several users who disagree on some points, but can at least find common ground in SOMETHING. I guess it’s pretty telling when you see someone’s ID and already know said person will be antagonizing everyone without even reading their comment, because that’s all …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 02:56 PM
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Lol, don’t waste your time. All of OPs activity on this sub boils down to defending feminism and minimizing things and narratives that are obviously harmful and biased towards men. It’s evident he/she holds feminists views himself/herself. I just wish he/she was more upfront about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/21 11:52 AM
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My beard doesn’t grow much, so I don’t really do anything other than trimming, so no, I don’t buy their products. Ugh, just to think about all the gaslighting and Kafka traps that came along with this ad makes my blood boil. “Muh, if you’re bothered by it, you’re probably part of the problem”. It’s really curious how some industries think it’s a good idea to shit on their buyers if they’re men (the gaming industry is notorious for that). This is completely counter intuitive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/21 01:10 PM
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Yeah, you touch on some very interesting points. I also notice that there’s only one type of gay men in evidence. There are very strong and rooted pattern behaviors in the community. Misandry itself is a part of such behaviors and one is expected to express it, because it’s supposedly funny, because straight men deserve such scrutiny, because it helps you get along with others, just like small talk. It’s ironic that gay people have complained so much about how Hollywood used to make caricatures …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 01:55 PM
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Well, I live in Brazil and it’s so common that I’d could say it’s the norm, sadly. Regardless of ethnicity, it seems. But to be fair, I can’t really speak about Asian gay men. There’s actually a huge Asian community here (mostly from Japan, China and a few Koreans), but they usually tend to keep their views private and not use them to shape their personalities. When I stop to think about it, it’s even rare to see Asian girls and women holding feminist views publicly here. As I said, they tend to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 11:18 AM
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To be fair, I think you could’ve used more accessible and recent events. We don’t even have to dig up so much to find more absurd things that are acceptable by mainstream feminism. Just show her one of those dystopian ads on the streets telling men how to behave when next to a woman, telling them even what to wear in order to make women feel safe. Show her how Reddit admins have outright admitted that people are free to bully men as they see fit, since men are a privileged group. Or maybe show h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 03:00 AM
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Oh, yeah. And usually there’s a spike of such articles in Pride Month, many of which, as you said, are written by gay men. I also love when they buy feminist narratives such as “homophobia is an extension of misandry and an evidence that society hates femininity”. It’s pathetic, really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 12:54 AM
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I believe that TERFs hold transphobic views in addition to, and as an outgrowth of, their misandry, and not instead of misandry; their misandry is the foundation upon which their transphobia is built. Yeah, I guess you have summed it perfectly. This is why I have met radfems who aren’t necessarily transphobic, but I have never met rads who didn’t hold misandric views.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 12:47 AM
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I’m gonna go against the tide and say that, based on my own experiences, radfems (AKA gender critical feminists) aren’t nearly as transphobic as they are misandric. Thing is, transphobia is a much more encompassing and accepted term than misandry. Radfems do believe there are only two genders and that you can’t simply opt out of it, but well, so do many MRAs. How they react to such belief varies. The ones I came across personally, while holding disgusting views towards men, didn’t show the same …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/21 12:28 AM
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They don’t even allow men to have fears and reservations. I’ve heard several times that respectful men have nothing to fear and that those who do have reservations about approaching women are probably up to no good in the first place. People love to make assumptions about men’s intentions and deny their fears, specifically when such fears paint some women in a bad light, which is unacceptable. When someone brings this argument, I usually mention this acquaintance of mine who loves children and l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 07:40 PM
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And all are feminist icons these days, huh? How surprising. There’s even a statue of Medusa beheading Perseus in New York, which wouldn’t be a problem at all, except it became a feminist symbol, just like the many paintings of Salome with the head of John the Baptiste on a plate. Imagine the outrage if the MRA used the statue where Perseus is holding Medusa’s head as one of their symbols.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 05:45 PM
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Or treating young boys like rapists in schools under the guise of a sexual education that would allegedly target all children, except one of their most famous slogans is “Teach boys not to rape”, so we know who would really be the target of such lessons exclusively. Feminists have a very efficient way of softening their own bigotry and making it more palatable and sound to a larger audience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 12:52 PM
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You can still believe the victim believes they're telling the truth and take it seriously, and simultaneously not automatically think the accused is guilty. No, you cannot. That would be bias. Police has no obligation to cater to anyone’s feelings. You’re just subscribing to feminist nonsense when you say that police doesn’t take rape accusations seriously. Large cities in my country have SPECIFIC police stations with trained staff to deal with crimes against women. And guess what? Feminists sti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/21 12:10 PM
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why this is considered a bad thing? Skepticism is called due process Because crimes like rape and DV aren’t treated like other offenses anymore. What is valid for other crimes suddenly is no longe valid when we’re talking about rape and DV. And feminism keeps pushing for such crimes to receive special treatment (at the expense of due process) each time more. Don’t you think it’s very telling that the crimes which society believes affect women disproportionately receive special treatment? Gynocen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/21 10:56 PM
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I really thought about how hard it must be for gay men, I suspect you might come across people calling you a traitor for saying things like that. I have certainly been accused of being an attention seeker who craves for the attention of straight men. Ironically, by the very same men who put all women on a pedestal. But worse than that, male feminists have a very particular way of making everything about sex. The same way I’ve been accused of inceldom by straight male feminists, I’ve also been to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/21 10:27 PM
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This is why, as a gay men, I can’t really resent guys like radical MGTOWS who dislike LGBTs. Sure, much of that can come from religion and homophobia just for the sake of homophobia, but there are many others who simply had enough of the blatant misandry that is already part of the identity of the LGBT world, who, ironically, keep demanding respect and acceptance from the same guys they love to bash. And even though LGBTs are a minority, they’re a very vocal one in the West, with a considerably …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/21 08:45 PM
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Except this is not about left or right. Being conservative, at least in the way OP speaks, is not the same as being right wing. The argument is more about tradcons who pretend to care about male issues, but evaluate men based on how useful they are to women, who say that it’s every man’s duty to provide and protect women, who seek to erase all kinds of masculinities other than their ideal one. Most men are completely worthless to these guys. They do not care about men’s mental health and freedom…
/r/MensRights02/06/21 05:21 PM
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I, for one, don't mind the idea that someone can be an ally in some purposes, and an enemy in others Neither do I, which is why, as I said, the MRA should welcome men from all political leanings. Except conservative men (and women) don’t even meet the basic criteria to be considered allies in the first place. Their view on masculinity is as narrow as the view of feminists. How can you be an ally with someone who propagates stigmas, vouch for sexist ideas that will not benefit men and evaluate me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/21 11:11 AM
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Female Dating Strategy, the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/21 08:05 PM
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Have you seen prints from FB groups for conservative women? It’s really a mixture of feminism with FDS. They’re as misandric as it gets. Some of the few differences between feminists and conservative women is that they’re against abortion and that they indeed value one kind of men (stoic, well off, masculine...), while all others are unworthy. Feminists propose a new kind of chivalry, which is ultimately just the old one in a different clothing, while conservative women are smart enough to see t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/21 07:27 PM
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This term includes verbal sexual harassment (e.g., sexually explicit talk, homophobic slurs, repeated requests for a date after a person has said no), cyber sexual harassment (the use of text/phone and Internet to sexually harass), and physically aggressive sexual harassment (flashing or indecent exposure, being physically followed and being touched or brushed up against in a sexual way without consent). Forced sex acts are excluded from this term for this study. And this, my friend, is the prob…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/21 05:21 AM
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Yep. Black feminism is a good example of that. White feminism refrains from criticizing black men, but many black feminists absolutely treat black men like they’re privileged in comparison to black women. There’s an even worse feud between lesbians and gay men in the LGBT world as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/21 05:10 AM
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And you know what’s infuriating? When people try to contest the situation of the dating market by the alleged large number of attractive women they’ve seen or know who are dating men who aren’t that attractive (or, alternatively, their friends/acquaintances who are not that attractive but date attractive women), except they totally overlook the fact that most of these guys are bringing something else to the table. They love to use this to prove that women are inherently less shallow than men and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/21 02:49 PM
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Men do care about looks. Difference is that female beauty is a very diverse and encompassing concept. There are many types of women that can be considered attractive in the eyes of a man. Women, feminists and media like to talk about men being “visual creatures” as something like “They’ll only get attracted by a supermodel”, but it’s not at all about that. If only they knew how easy it is for a woman to be considered attractive to men... And well, this is backed up by researches. Men rate women’…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/21 02:37 PM
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So, your main argument on this thread boils down to “but I’ve met some feminists who aren’t like this”. Frankly, the feminists you met matter nothing if they have no actual institutional power. You know who matters? The ones writing for big newspapers like BBC and The Guardian, the ones in Hollywood, producing entertainment that will shape entire generations, the ones in organizations like NOW, who actually have institutional/lobbying power. And the ones who don’t have such power still fail mise…
/r/MensRights30/05/21 09:35 PM
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Subscribing to patriarchy theory IS bigotry, though, and should justifiably be called out. “Moderate” feminists have a very effective way of making their own bigotry more palatable and marketable. If they don’t outright spew hate speech, they at least use bad faith to sell a narrative where women are the primary victims of certain problems that affect men on a similar scale or worse, thus erasing male victims. Stop making concessions to this hateful ideology. Enough of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/21 06:19 PM
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Because the actions and ideology of TERFs are seen as detrimental to trans women and trans men. Feminism doesn't have the same concern for cis men. There's only self-criticism within the feminist sphere when an action is perceived as unfair to groups that are seen as marginalized. It was never a concern of the movement to call out out misandry, which is highly tolerated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 10:21 PM
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I see some prints from female tradcons FB groups sporadically. They really look straight out of female dating strategy. Female tradcons are as much misandric and entitled as the women that tradcon men claim to hate. They value their ideal stoic and masculine man, sure, but hate all others and will often come up with speeches trying to define what "a real man" is. Spoiler: a man that benefits them the most. They are really smarter than feminists, though. I gotta give it to them. Smart enough to s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 11:30 AM
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Absolutely. I think they want the same things in several instances, just under different structures and clothing. Just look at the feminist narrative surrounding Sarah Everard's murder in the UK, about men not doing enough to protect women and not calling out abusers. What is that if not chivalry?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/21 10:49 AM
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I mean, conservatives and feminists are more on the same page than they like to acknowledge. Both of them believe women deserve more protection and aid than men and invariably perceive female lives as being more valuable than male lives. Both of them evaluate men for what they can provide to women and society. Both of them expect things from men that they don't expect from women. And if you take strains such as radfem, they're really on the same page as some conservatives when it comes to subjec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 10:34 PM
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White feminists usually exempt black men from their criticisms. Not always, but usually. It's a very curious phenomenon. To a certain extent, they are even willing to acknowledge some issues black men face that they would never admit for white men, even though they suffer with it as well, like the unrealistic expectations about their bodies and even false rape accusations. In many cases, I've also seen feminists closing their eyes for the actions and opinions of black men that wouldn't be tolera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 06:54 PM
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Furthermore, it makes no sense to include black women in discussions such as police brutality or violence in general, but exclude white men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 02:44 PM
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Spoilers for Midsommar, but that fucking movie would never have worked if the genders were reversed (I mean, most female revenge movies woudn't). The main character's boyfriend could be a prick, but he was actually drugged and raped. Yet, the movie framed it as cheating and he was punished accordingly. Can you imagine this happening to a female character?
/r/MensRights26/04/21 01:41 PM
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I never really understood why feminists, or even women who are not necessarily feminists, like to criticize male power fantasies when their best-sellers, highest-grossing movies and most watched shows are pretty much the same, if not worse. I mean, I won't deny that there are productions where normal men end up with women that are way "above their league". You can see that in porn, even though the guy usually is not completely without something to offer (meaning he has a huge penis). But that is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 12:18 PM
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You're aware that you could say this about any ideology, no matter how harmful it was, right? If you think there's merit to feminist ideas and that feminism is still salvageable, that's your opinion, but it was never the sub's mission to save it, nor did it ever subscribed to its core beliefs, as far as I'm aware. There are other designated spaces for that already. So it begs the question: why dont you look for a sub more accommodating of your views, instead of trying to shame men into accepting…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 03:15 AM
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Somewhere where we aren't necessarily aligned with name-brand Feminism but recognize that the core issues that drive feminism are largely true and need to be addressed Like what issues? ​ It's slowly been drifting more and more into straight "women have it so good, what about us men" rhetoric that I just can't buy. Women have a few areas that they are privileged in, just like men, but they definitely are suffering too. Mods, I know this will count as concern trolling but I've definitely noticed …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/21 02:08 AM
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When feminists try to frame people who are concerned about their safety as being lenient with violence against women. It happened a lot after Sarah Everard's death in the UK. No, society is not imposing a curfew on you or refusing to solve your issues, they ask you to avoid certain areas at night and to take self-defense classes because they actually care about you. No one would question a mother or a father who shows a similar concern for their son or daughter. Imagine being so valued by societ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 05:27 PM
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My jaw genuinely drops when I see this. I mean, sure, having to put up with a few creeps is definitely a negative aspect of the dating market for women, I guess we can all recognize that, but how many of them would actually prefer the other option, which is no matches at all? Psychologically speaking, I say without fear of generalizations that all women would be more negatively impacted by outright rejection than by having to deal with the current inconveniences they deal with on dating apps. It…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/21 04:45 PM
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Askfeminists >>>> proceeds to ask feminists >>>> gets told to fuck off. The so called moderate feminists can only be blind if they fail to see the fragility of their own spaces.
/r/MensRights24/04/21 09:23 PM
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I agree. It's so very frustrating and mentally exhausting to see that men's rights advocates are held held to a much higher standard than everyone else. Meanwhile, feminists can get away with victim blaming, sexism, generalizations and all kinds of things. As they did on that very thread, by the way, like the top upvoted comment of the therapist who blamed men for their own problems or the user saying that white men are to blame. There's no such thing as tone policing for feminists. I'm not play…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 12:07 PM
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This troll just got banned. Good fucking riddance and may mensrights do the same. I hate to see people getting banned, but we all know it was well deserved in his case. There's a very clear difference between having opposing views and being an unapologetic troll trying to derail conversations. I'd take a self-declared feminist who completely and openly disagrees with my views over a wolf in sheep's clothing like ObviousObservationz, who still likes to call himself a men's rights advocate. Trolli…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 12:18 AM
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Thank God and good fucking riddance. May this troll be baned from mensrights as well. I really don't like to see people getting banned in most situations, but there's a very clear difference between having opposing views and being an unapologetic troll who only wants to derail all conversations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 12:02 AM
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I've literally seen men being shamed for saying they're looking for a woman who doesn't have children and doesn't smoke. Meanwhile, women are free to say whatever they want, even talk about how men who don't have big penises aren't worth of their love. This is one of the double standards that annoys me the most. And they usually resort to shaming tactics when they see a man talking about his standards on the internet, like going after his pictures to attack and demean him, like "How dare you?". …
/r/MensRights22/04/21 01:51 PM
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Agree completely. Many trads like to call themselves MRAs, but while they're antifeminists, they're not necessarily pro-men and fully support a return to the "good ol'l days", except those days were never good for the majority of men in the first place. I have heard a few times, for example, that it's a man's nature and job to provide for a woman on this very sub. Or that they support only men in military positions, because, well, it's a man's job to defend. These guys aren't allies and they're …
/r/MensRights22/04/21 03:40 AM
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I'm not against dissenting opinions, but there's a difference between dissenting opinions and unapologetic trolls, like u/ ObviousObservationz, who pretend to be men's rights advocates, but are wolves in sheeps clothing. I have no problems with self declared feminists who come here, even though I disagree with them, but there's a difference between disagreeing and outright trolling.
/r/MensRights21/04/21 01:09 PM
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And here's the greatest of all trolls, as expected.
/r/MensRights21/04/21 01:05 PM
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When in reality, who has it worse is dependant on the situation in question. Or who you ask. For example, if you ask the #MeToo lover ObviousObservationz who has it worse, even though he won’t admit it, he’ll always think it’s women. Have you already shamed men today for not supporting #MeToo or the destruction of presumption of innocence, btw?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/21 11:29 AM
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This shit is absolutely outrageous. That mods have the power to do this boggles my mind. This site is overly moderated and give its mods too much power.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 08:21 AM
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It's also why you see people say feminists are all hateful when thats obviously not true either. Sure, maybe the majority of them aren’t outright hateful 100% of the time, but even the more moderate ones support ideas that are harmful and discriminatory towards men. It’s just that these ideas have been normalized and repeated ad nauseam, so it’s easy to overlook how harmful they are. Most feminists support policies that will end up putting men who are falsely accused in an even more fragile posi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/21 09:19 PM
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In my experience, feminists are much better at derailing conversations. Men don’t talk about their issues to distract the conversation from female ones, they bring their issues as a counterargument when feminists accuse them of having it better or having no idea what they feel like. It’s not simply “I was raped” and “hey, but you know men get raped too?”. It’s more like “Men have no idea how it feels like” and “Well, actually men also suffer with (insert any problem)”. They can’t talk about thei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/21 03:03 PM
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I get called a feminist troll Because you’re indeed one and people have noticed it, of course. I prefer to have a conversation with a self declared feminist than someone who pretends to a men’s rights advocate but is only a wolf in sheep’s clothing and only ever comments to attack men or to defend things that are harmful to men.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 10:30 PM
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Those are the same feminists who complain and say that “What about men” derails the conversation about their problems. Their first response when they hear about a false accusation case is say “they’re very rare”.
/r/MensRights13/04/21 03:35 PM
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Lol, incredible how some of the women commenting there are taking her side and questioning OP’s version. Disgusting. Some women will never be able to fully empathize with men.
/r/MensRights12/04/21 11:33 PM
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I like to check the sub every now and then. There’s good content there, but I don’t stick around much. What I truly dislike about it is how accepting they are of radfem rhetoric. Radfems have strong marxist leanings and also oppose identity politics (I mean, at least identify politics as it is), so the sub turns a blind eye to their misandry, being the marxists and class reductionists that they are. I see upvoted comments defending radfem or expressing views that align with theirs every now and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/21 03:21 PM
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I just saw this article and immediately opened Reddit to see if there was something about it. It’s indeed a sad thing. The Facebook post has a lot of laughs and hearts as reactions. People love to see men being humiliated anyway, so it’s not a big deal to them. We must, above all, teach men to have self respect. It’s hard to change things without that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 07:09 PM
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Telling your story is very different from public accusing someone. I support the former, but there can be consequences for the later when you don’t have evidences. Btw, you’re intentionally trying to frame me as a man hater, but we both know the truth about who would really get the short end of the stick in your perfect world: innocent men. You’re not supportive of men telling their stories, you’re supportive of women telling theirs. You’re only using men to achieve a goal. Men have always been …
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:41 PM
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You’re supportive of a movement that became nothing other than an excuse to throw men on a pyre without evidences and now you accuse me of being a man hater (I mean, not only supportive, but you actively try to shame men for not supporting it)? You’re projecting. You used to troll better than that. And you can say you believe in innocent until proven guilty all you like, but your every comment contradicts that. Should men and women just let their abuser get away with it since they don't have evi…
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:24 PM
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Hahaha You’re so disingenuous, trying to focus on men now to turn the opinion against me. That’s really the only time you pretend to care about men, when you can use them to achieve your goals. Who’s really against men here? The one who says a testimony is enough to deem if someone is a rapist or the one who believes in due process and evidences? By the way, if someone wants to go to the authorities to report something that happened years ago, then by all means, you’re allowed to go, even though…
/r/MensRights10/04/21 12:11 PM
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If he waited five fucking years or a decade to report her and has no evidence to back such claim about something that happened so long ago, the window is closed. If you wanna do something good, encourage both men and women to go to the authorities as soon as the abuse happens, instead of trying to solve their situation with a tweet a decade later.
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:46 AM
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But should men and women come forward even if they don't have any evidence? No. Accusing someone without evidence is defamation. If you waited decades to make your move, your opportunity is way past. As soon as I saw the #MeToo in the title, I knew to expect a comment from you, being the good feminist that you are. Say it. Just say it. Say that you believe a person’s (this person being a woman) testimony should be enough to get someone (this someone being a man) fired and thrown in jail. By the …
/r/MensRights10/04/21 11:32 AM
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Bashing your own gender and color is, in many progressive circles, a way of earning status, specially in places like universities. What a crazy world we live in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 06:21 PM
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I was thinking about this today too. I’m not implying trans people don’t face their own problems and discrimination, but put yourself in the shoes of a young boy who is being raised insulated in a progressive bubble: while everyone you know is actively taking part in the demonization of your gender, you simultaneously see that this demonization doesn’t apply to cis and trans women. Not only that, but everyone in your bubble spreads messages of positivity about trans women and cis women, while yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 02:00 PM
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And you know what’s funny? That idea could totally backfire. Assuming those 10% wouldn’t be slaves and would have a modicum of free will, cutting down the male population like this could actually... make men more powerful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/21 01:05 PM
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He/she is a known troll/feminist who never talks about men’s rights and often berates men for not supporting #MeToo. Ignore it.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:24 AM
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Funny thing for a country where feminists protested against the gender neutral rape law.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 10:20 AM
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I mean, I‘m not really into this whole culture of random strangers saying things like “talk to me”, regardless of gender. I also don’t see what’s the big deal about hotlines, for example. But well, maybe it works for someone. I’m not really one to vent very often, but if I did so, I guess I’d like to at least have a bit of intimacy with the person. But of course, depending on the nature the things I’d have to say, maybe a stranger would be better. Who knows.
/r/MensRights09/04/21 02:14 AM
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You were absolutely downplaying the rape of men, like many others did before you. No one was blaming women for those rapes, though. Feminist women are, however, guilty of popularizing a narrative where women are the only ones affected by rape. No one even mentioned women are responsible for men being raped in prison, but your first instinct was to automatically downplay male issues by pulling a strawman. This is shameful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/21 02:06 PM
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If she’s a right winger like Gina Carano, she’ll absolutely get canceled hard. But a woman who always had a “good history” and suddenly slips has a big chance of getting exempted. A man, however, will get canceled in any situation, no matter how much he pandered to the status quo before.
/r/MensRights07/04/21 11:58 AM
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Everything you said is backed by researches. Despite feminists’ claim that we live in a world that hates the female, men are the ones who have an outgroup bias, meaning they’ll empathize more with female pain and be more concerned for her wellbeing than they would be for another men. Women, however, have an in-group bias. I guess this is the greatest barrier against the discussion of male issues. It’s not easy for most people to break this empathy barrier. Your comment is very cathartic. It’s in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 07:11 PM
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You’re delusional if you believe you’re a male ally. No male ally would support a movement such as #MeToo, which just became an excuse to promote a witch hunt against men without evidences. Don’t act like it was just “women telling their assault stories”. The movement is rightfully hated among men’s rights advocates, which you’re not, by the way. You care about the wellbeing of women first, no matter the cost innocent men have to pay for it. That becomes clearer and clearer in each comment you m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/21 04:28 PM
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Even left wing men who are aware of men’s issues feel alienated by the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 10:13 PM
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I mean, MRM is alright. If a man is tired of this culture and join the MRM or something like this, I see it as a good outcome, but some people will inevitably find their home in very dark places.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 09:27 PM
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Double standards like this will only push more and more boys and men towards radicalization. That’s all I have to say. Not everyone will respond to this in a productive, calm and organized way. Then they’ll make the Pikachu face when it comes back to bite them. Worse thing is, instead of looking critically at their own actions, they’ll just say the rise in alt-right numbers is because the white man is inherently evil and bigoted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 08:49 PM
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The saddest part is that menslib is always recommended to people whenever the subject of men’s rights appear on neutral and non-political subs, in a narrative like “Oh, the men’s rights subs are toxic and misogynistic, but check out menslib. They’re different.”. Ugh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/21 02:30 PM
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Poor guy. Always the same story. He’s the only decent man in her life, right? Maybe even the world. Until they break up and she proceeds to include him in her misandrist speech too, talking about how abusive he was (probably for standing up for himself) and about the “emotional labor” he put her through. Oh, and if you’re unlucky enough, maybe even a dose of bodyshame, as bodyshaming their exes is one of the favorite sports of women who hate men. We gotta teach men that a misandrist’s love for y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 11:37 AM
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Well, I’m sure I’m not on the same page about some things as people on that sub, but if they genuinely desire to have discussions and avoid censoring/being an echo chamber, congratulations for the initiative. That’s a rare thing on Reddit these days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/21 12:55 AM
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Yep. In an alleged system which was designed to benefit men at the expense of women, male suffering is an exception, not the norm, unlike female suffering. Of course they won't directly tell you this, but it's what they believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 09:33 PM
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It's what I always say: they'll allow you to have your space, as long as you abide to their laws, adhere to their terms (toxic masculinity, patriarchy), respect their privilege/oppression ladder (men on top and women always bellow) and never, ever use generalizations against women the way they're allowed to use against men. It's a very common trait of dictatorships, by the way. Allow a controlled opposition or groups which will discuss problems they have no intention of dealing with, usually wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 09:26 PM
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And she was a self proclaimed "feminist” Yeah. That’s the problem with this site. They don’t choose normal people to be mods. All “neutral” subs are plagued by this infection.
/r/MensRights02/04/21 02:07 AM
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About the last part, there was a very popular LGBT FB page in my country that made an privilege pyramid (crazy, I know) with white gay men being on the top, even above bisexual/lesbian women. It’s a very common view. Far from me to like oppression Olympics, but if gay men are so much more privileged, why are they much more likely to be the victims of homophobic attacks than lesbian and bisexual women virtually everywhere? And it doesn’t help that gay men are some of the biggest misandrists thems…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 10:49 AM
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There are actually researches about this. For example, people tend to react positively to researches where women are doing better, but when men are doing better, the reaction tends to be more negative and there’s often the desire to censor such researches. When men do better it’s a gap, when women do better it’s a fact. Search in the “gender bias” section. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mcdmxz/sexism_factsheet_revised_and_expanded_to_include/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm…
/r/MensRights01/04/21 12:17 AM
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it’s in their nature I think we could have more productive discussions without such assertions.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 07:00 PM
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No offense, but by the looks of it and by your replies, this looks like the meme where the house is burning and the dog says “this is fine” in denial.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 06:56 PM
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It’s also a good place for men who identify as feminists Sooo, like you?
/r/MensRights31/03/21 06:46 PM
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Or you could’ve just issued a warning or made a plea (like one of the mods did, except he didn’t use the mod flair, which he could’ve) without having to resort to removing comments (one of them which was completely reasonable), reinforcing reddit’s culture of excessive moderation. Is this the future of this sub now? Walking on eggshells?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 06:23 PM
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As far as I know, there’s many people on that sub that are onboard with things like radfem, mostly because rads have marxist leanings and all they care about on the sub is class. I liked the sub when I first found out about it, and I still check it every now and then, but it’s baffling when I see people accepting radfem rhetoric there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:40 PM
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Yup. And anarchist men are usually quite aggressive and love virgin shaming. Feminism has sadly become the religion of the left. Anarchists and marxists might denounce identity politics to a certain extent, but don’t mistake it for antifeminism. And they do embrace identity politics more than they believe than do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:33 PM
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r/memes has a long history of pulling the no true Scotsman argument. You have memes like this every week. What they and the feminists with zero organization and institutional power who often comment there fail to realize is that hating men goes way beyond a blue haired girl with glasses yelling kill all men on Twitter. Sure, the moderate feminist who disavows the kill all men crowd might not outright spew misandrist bullshit, but she does believe and repeat mottos like “believe all women”, she c…
/r/MensRights31/03/21 01:57 PM
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In my experience, anarchists love name calling and such discussions will quickly turn into accusations of inceldom. It’s not much different with marxists. While many of them genuinely dislike identity politics, that doesn’t mean they’re open to acknowledge the existence of male issues beyond what is allowed by feminism. Most marxist people, groups and parties I see these days have a huge focus on female issues. To suggest men have issues because they’re men would be like questioning water is wet…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 01:33 PM
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Last year I finally managed to gather myself up enough to attend group therapy. It was a two year battle to get inside the building, I'd literally walked up to the front door every meeting day and then walked away because I was too embarrassed That’s my first psychiatric session in a nutshell. It took me a while to gather the courage to enter. If my mother wasn’t with me, I’m sure I would’ve walked away. In any case, I’m glad you had good and productive group therapy. Sadly, I’ve been hearing th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 11:08 AM
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I don’t see how pointing out how prevalent victim mentality is among women is anti-women. Btw, men can suffer from victim mentality too. These kinds of regulations aren’t really good for the conversations, imo. Besides, OP’s commentary has some nuance to it. It’s not like he painted women as evil and men as victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:37 AM
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But have you ever seen them being dismissive of male rape? I think it’d be pretty hard for someone who truly cares about you to dismiss your feelings like this, let alone make fun of you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:26 AM
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Are you sure? Look, I dislike feminists too, but isn’t it a bit extreme to assume your own friends won’t believe and support you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 03:20 AM
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The way they mention the word patriarchy is so cringy that it feels like I’m watching a movie parody of what a 15 years old girl looks like, except they’re totally serious.
/r/AntiFeminists31/03/21 03:06 AM
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There was a discussion on a different sub a ways back talking about the idea that power imbalances negate consent... Except things like pornography and prostitution are always wrong in their opinion, no matter the context, no matter if none of the parts involved is in situation of poverty and if both consented. I agree that prostitution and pornography are more often than not done in unethical ways, but oh boy, it was just so unbelievable to watch someone who just wanted extra money to afford he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 02:12 AM
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My experience is the extreme opposite. Radfems are some of the biggest misandrists I’ve ever came across. I’ve seen and heard so many absurdities coming from them, like speaking about men just like they’re sex traffickers just because they watch porn or saying that prostitution is “paid rape”. The last part I actually heard from a radfem who prostituted herself, despite not needing that extra money, and who mostly had a nice relationship with her clients, so I really don’t know how she dealt wit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 01:52 AM
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But it certainly feels like religion in the sense that it’s often offered as a superficial solution that will not necessarily help the person struggling and in the sense that it can often blind the speaker to the pain of the person they’re talking to. What you said about ideologies is totally true, but when it comes to dynamics like the one we’re talking, I can’t see it happening with any other ideology other than feminism. Imagine if someone went to a general and neutral sub to vent about their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/21 01:34 AM
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Have you noticed how the feminist rhetoric about male mental health feels like religion? Man talks about an issue Feminists: That’s toxic masculinity. The patriarchy harms men too, that’s why it’s important to support feminism. I mean, what’s the difference between this and a religious person whose first instinct is to talk about their savior Jesus Christ whenever they meet someone who is clinically depressed? And the victim blaming is unreal. Fucking unreal. Why can’t they realize how insane th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 11:51 PM
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I think the difference is that it’s much easier to recognize the sheer brutality that comes along with tribalism than it is to perceive the subtleties of gender roles. Racism and xenophobia are tribalism, but there’s no such thing between men and women, as we always coexisted. These gender roles are as old as humanity and operate in silent ways. It’s hard to rewrite such thing. And as much as I refuse to accept biological determinism, both men and women are programmed to feel less empathy for me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 07:58 PM
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My personal anecdote probably goes back to my parents. My mom yelled and nagged at my dad every day. He worked enough to support everyone so he'd get home at 6 or 7 and then mow the lawn, take out the trash, and do a dozen chores before crashing and doing it all over again. My mom on the other hand would take naps and watch soap operas. All while she complained about dad and called him lazy to anyone who would listen to her. That’s truly heartbreaking. I too know many cases like this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 06:46 PM
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And then the constant moaning about 'a culture change being necessary', as if policing and controlling all male expressions of sexuality isn't omnipresent already. Not only that. Modern feminism wants to police male behavior in every imaginable aspect. It recently got to the point of even trying to dictate what men should wear in order to make women feel more comfortable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 11:54 AM
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I empathize with all (legitimate) societal issues women face. You and literally everyone else. A shame the same can’t be said about your problems. Besides, I’m an advocate of free speech, so in my opinion, both posts should be allowed to exist. This site is overly moderated, if you ask me. However, if one isn’t allowed to exist, the other shouldn’t either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 11:36 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/mfcqby/whats_a_female_societal_issue_you_arent/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 11:32 AM
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Interestingly but not surprisingly, someone created a gender reversed post on r/askmen and it got almost instantly removed. Like the mods would ever allow someone hurt the female feelings like this, right? Tell me about double standards. These things slowly ruin your mental health and your faith in humanity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 03:50 AM
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I’d like that. I truly would. I too believe that’s possible sometimes. Today is just not one of those days.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 03:20 AM
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I mean, what is feminism if not a movement that tries to free women from gender roles when they see fit but keep certain gender roles for men when it benefits them, but not necessarily benefit men. After all, isn’t it a white knight they’re asking for when they say men have an obligation to go out of their way to help woman, call out abusers and make women feel safe? And when a woman dies, shame on all men for not doing enough to protect her. I think the problem with your hypothesis is that it r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 02:34 AM
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The alt-right doesn’t need to recruit. The left already do this for them. All they have to do is tell people that there’s virtue in the color of their skin or simply say that there’s nothing wrong with it and proceed to offer a sense of community and acceptance. The journalist may have been fired, but her speech is pretty popular among the identity politics left on social medias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 01:53 AM
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Well, basically how they feel no sympathy for men, how they actually have it much worse, how having a full inbox is much worse than having no message at all on dating apps, how it’s men’s fault for having high standards and for not making themselves fuckable enough. Yeah, it was a shitshow. Not to mention unrelated things on the same thread, like how they basically said they have no sympathy for the issues of fathers in family courts. So much for the empathetic gender. And it wasn’t even on the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 12:17 AM
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I don’t really care about gender, as long as people don’t use offensive terms like patriarchy and toxic masculinity. In fact, some of my very favorite men’s rights activists happen to be women (Karen Straughan and the Honey Badgers). There’s also Cassie Jaye, an ex-feminists who produced The Redpill documentary, although she doesn’t label herself as a MRA. I’d definitely recommend you to watch her documentary.
/r/MensRights29/03/21 11:29 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll definitely look into it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 11:05 PM
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I agree. I call them moderate because of how they perceive themselves and how they’re perceived. And for the sake of discussion as well. It’s not like I actually agree with this label, though.
/r/MensRights29/03/21 10:54 PM
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I wonder if it goes both ways or if it’s yet another tool to make women more valuable than men in the eyes of the law. Btw, I do recommend this article by Mark Dent published on A Voice for Men. I am no financial wizard, but I do have a question. How is it possible that women control 83% of all consumer spending when they earn so much less than men on average? Even for a man of very little brain this is an interesting puzzle. Surely it can mean only one thing. Women are spending and controlling …
/r/MensRights29/03/21 10:51 PM
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Wish I had something insightful to say. I’m not a straight guy, but I do sympathize with the struggles of straight guys in the dating market. No, it’s not a shallow subject and don’t let anyone say otherwise. I have seen even academic papers about “the loneliness of the black woman”, so men should have a right to talk about theirs as well. I think one of the main issues is how some people struggle to even acknowledge that this is a thing. The very mention of this subject is met with utmost conte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 10:27 PM
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Both of those are radical, not just the former. Absolutely. But while the former tends to be denounced in bubbles like Reddit, at least in the sense of people not wanting association with them and revoking their feminist card (“they’re not real feminists”), the former is still acceptable (here and everywhere).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 08:23 PM
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People often ignore the soft power women had throughout history. I really recommend everyone to watch this video by Karen Straughan, where she talks about how women weren’t as powerless as people were led to believe. I’m not sure about this sub’s opinion about Karen, but she always brings awesome facts to the table. This video in particular is very eye opening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 08:19 PM
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But those are not mutually exclusive. Just today there were two excellent posts about men in history and discriminations they faced.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 08:04 PM
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