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As a former romantic I love women posting stuff like this because every time they do it's another data point towards radicalization for a young man just as it happened with me. Yes please keep spouting propaganda that yearning young men are evil there is no possible way that will backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:45 PM
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such as the fact that my life as a female in STEM is a lot easier than his life as male because of unfair biases towards women (spoiler: it isn't) assuming you typo'd women into men you just established you're utterly incapable of objectivity stopped reading right there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:01 AM
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The usual accusation of a moral/character flaw whenever a male is unsuccessful with women necessarily implies that men with good character/morals are particularly successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:48 PM
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It's based on what the director thinks looks arousing, not one what actually feels good or arousing. You think getting dick licked or boobjobs feels good? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:02 PM
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You say that women have hard harder than men, meanwhile FGM is illegal whereas half of male Americans suffer from MGM. Feminists are always complaining about bodily autonomy but those same women thoughtlessly have their sons mutilated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:42 AM
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Why the fuck would I care what is happening in Africa? If society was honest then [cannot elaborate because it would be censored ]
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:05 AM
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Obviously not. Of all the coming of age rituals for males, I don't think I've heard of a single culture where one was having sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:02 PM
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why is it when black people commit violent crime at disproportionate rates, it's not "random" and needs to be "unpacked", but when men commit violent crime, it doesn't need to be "unpacked"? You don't think you're forcing a conclusion to be what you want it to be somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 PM
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If monogamy didn't exist we wouldn't even have mudhuts. Men would be too busy killing each other for mating rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:26 PM
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It's certainly the times we live in. You only need to look at every non-western first world technological civilization in history. Women weren't dependent on men merely because men subjugated women. Civilization is extremely labor intensive. Animals can be deadly. Disease. Weather. Famine. Water sources. Construction. Tool building. No one could really afford to live an isolated life where they can impersonally acquire everything they want or need with a token of exchange they acquired from an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:32 PM
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My GF can barely boil an egg and I do not want her to. A real man takes care of his lady. Both partners should make an effort towards household tasks. lol you're shitposting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:02 PM
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Cope. If you actually believed that you wouldn't be approaching women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:58 AM
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You can trust men's observational skills regarding women for similar reasons you trust them about everything else that allows modern civilization to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:59 AM
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Honestly things are already as "bad" as they can be, so there are only improvements on the horizon. Personally, I'm looking forward to VR and sexbots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:09 PM
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"It's men's own behavior" Look inside, it's "the same small subset of men fucking all the women, most men don't even get a chance to prove you otherwise."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:40 PM
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Because we don’t know her and don’t know what the dating events were like. Women will be like "I went to 9 dating events and found 0% of the men there attractive" and not think it strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:03 PM
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since females no longer depend on males for provision or protection lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:55 AM
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It's because everything in civilization is downstream of reproduction. If not for reproduction there would basically be no point. Men are failing to reproduce en masse in technological societies, which is why redpill even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:57 PM
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"My female friend LOVES having casual sex but she would never ever ever do it with me." And bluepillers/women will pretend there's nothing strange about that and the man is problematic for being upset about that situation. This is why the redpill/blackpill is winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:29 PM
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Modern society is so fucking stupid that people think "meeting the standard" actually means sub-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:31 PM
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Women will hate on literally anything a male stranger they are not sexually attracted to does. There is no such thing as "appealing to the female gaze". You are either physically attractive and not mentally ill enough to fuck that up, or you're not physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:17 AM
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Because they claim to be the more empathic gender. It's less a demand or expectation than a rhetorical technique to demonstrate their hypocrisy and lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:26 AM
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"bare minimum" is LITERALLY -good-. That's what a "bare minimum" means. It means GOOD ENOUGH. If it wasn't good enough, it would be substandard, not meeting the standard i.e. bare minimum. Bare minimum = on par = meets the standard = good enough = GOOD Stop using words if you don't mean them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:13 AM
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A bear is a predator. It is the apex predator in that environment. We are only apex predators due to technology and cooperation. You don't have a gun with you and you're on your own. You are basically at the mercy of the bear. This is this jist of the retardation of "I choose the bear". They are effectively saying that they are more willing to give up their agency on the chance the bear chooses to not harm them, rather than the audacity of having to interact with the agency of another human bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:42 PM
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"Decentering men" is just code for using government and institutions to get advantages over and steal from men then claiming you don't need men anymore. So long as my tax dollars are paying for you, there is DEI, so long as there is feminism, you didn't 'decenter' men you are just extracting what you want from men and discarding the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:34 PM
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Most of the men here seem remarkably anti-social. I've seen guys post photos of themselves here and they absolutely would get laid in at least several of my social circles Women love saying this shit then turn around and sex that sex isn't a reward for good behavior. Both can't be true that "you can have sex as long as [don't do bad thing]" and "sex is not a reward for [don't do bad thing]"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:22 PM
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"Do [people who believe things I don't like] see [group they have negative opinion about] as people" because leftists can't imagine not liking someone without dehumanizing them. That's why leftists claim to be universal humanists, lest they beg the question. Why can't leftists comprehend thinking that a group of people has distasteful aspects without also wanting to change them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:52 PM
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Society protects females spaces, and actively tries to dismantle and slander male spaces. When women have an ingroup preference on the basis of sex, it's feminism. When men have an ingroup preference on the basis of sex, it's misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:47 PM
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Because "lonely" women aren't really lonely. A lonely man is no one cares about you and very often society will actively work against you. A lonely woman is someone who is decided none of her romantic prospects 'count' and there is an arrogance in that a 'lonely' woman believes she is unfathomably superior such that there is not a single man interested in her that is worth even trying to build a relationship with. Of course that makes her sound like an insufferably arrogant person so she tries t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:22 PM
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Everything revolving around dating advice is just bullshit to get low value men to shut up. This is why it is ALL about deferred results and goalpost moving. "Work on yourself" just means 'shut up' because when someone completed working on themselves suddenly it's something else. "Socialize more" just means 'shut up' because once you get a social circle, it becomes what OP describes. Don't hit on women in your social circle that's cringe, you have to go for friends of friends. Don't do that, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:28 PM
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If you think the majority of men are not decent then you are a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:04 PM
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It's comedic that dating apps, if they continued to exist on an evolutionary scale, would cause in humans a sexual dimorphism more extreme than in peacocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:00 PM
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What do you think valuing someone is? What does that actually look like? What obligation does a random man have towards a random woman? Positive rights only.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:55 PM
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Can you please give me $1000? Since you're saying that valuing people only by what use they are to you is immoral, you should have no problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:08 PM
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everyone treats attractive people better Why do you think men should treat you as if you are the most attractive woman on the planet just because he married you? You're certainly not going to treat him like he is the most attractive man on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:46 PM
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Women won't admit to how much they need and crave this kind of sex. They can't because that undoes all the modern ideas regarding consent. It's hard for women to say "I wish he would he would grab me, drag me into the bathroom at work or in public, and have his way with me." but ALSO "read my mind and only do this when I want it to happen and I'm sexually attracted to you". Without the latter qualifier that's just women saying 'please sexually assault women more'. This could be solved by women j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:34 PM
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“ wow all women are so stupid When was the last time this happened to you in real life, and the man had zero romantic relationship history and was a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:42 AM
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what are you even talking about He immediately lashes out and claims, "I don't want to hit". Why do you say this is lashing out? Saying "I don't want to have sex with you" is suddenly rude only when a man is saying it to a woman? In front of EVERYONE. How is this relevant. She decides to be the bigger person and leave. What? This interaction was needlessly cruel OP is about as blatant of a troll can get without outright saying "I'm a shitposting troll".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:01 PM
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Uh, yes? Having need for sex fulfilled without love is better than having neither. 30 khhv incel by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:25 PM
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You mean like how people are entitled to their life, but that is quickly done away with when it is inconvenient for too many people? Because that's what is going to happen if women's standards prevent them from reproducing and governments start getting skittish about their chances of winning wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:46 PM
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Mainstream media narratives are all about optics and marketing to women because women are more easily influenced by what she believes her "community" believes. There is a financial and ideological incentives for this. Male issues are not talked about because there is less market capture involved in doing so. Every issue is framed in terms of how it affects women because that captures female (and simp) attention and money. Men should stop taking it personally, and instead see it as an insult to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:57 PM
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The only thing I can think of is a desperate man saying "I'd take literally any woman" and it turning out that he does, in fact, have some minimum standards. But that is usually well into genetic freak or freak accident victim territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:13 AM
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That's a whole new sentence you just made up and isn't even a counterargument at all. You're even admitting the stress is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:46 PM
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Stress is stress, there's no body of authority that can demonstrate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:38 PM
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You're no authority to decide what is 'valid' psychological stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:03 PM
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It is possible for a woman to say "I have (x) criteria" and not actually mean "I have (x) criteria ( and Y unstated ones. duh! it's so obvious they don't need to be enumerated!) I don't think I've EVER seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:02 AM
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They respected a woman the same way or for the same reasons they would a cute doggy. You're just ignorant on this subject. Humans can have a profound respect and honor for animals. Not in the same way or for the same reasons they would for a human, because animals are not humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik%C5%8D They absolutely looked down on her as an inferior Don’t lecture me on how “great” it is to be treated like an inferior. You are the one lowering yourself to an animal because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:44 AM
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lol, men never respected women for fulfilling feminine roles in the first place anyways. Men never cared about their mothers, wives, and daughters? Riiiiiiight. You use the term "respect" ambiguously. They didn't respect women the same way or for the same reasons as they would a man. Of course, -women are not men-. You don't deserve the same kind of respect as a man who goes into battle and dies, or secures victory. You shouldn't covet it either. Respect is not quantitative. It's not a dial men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:22 PM
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My attitudes towards women, and my mental relationship towards them is completely screwed up and out of whack. I can mask things somewhat, especially in this era of work from home. But there's definitely sometimes when things will slip up and I can end up making some women intensely uncomfortable. Don't feel bad about this. Every defense of women basically amounts to 'don't judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree!'. Women wanted equality; now they can suffer autistic men taking that literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 02:11 AM
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Women aren't sold off like cattle any more than employment is slavery. Maaybe if you squint and take analogies way too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:20 PM
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This is such bs "men are selfish" "oh but also if man is selfless then it doesn't count if he expects reciprocation" Lilith post / 10
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:23 PM
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Excellent advice. Men should take the bearpill -maul anyone who annoys you -walk out on your babymomma and kids -having a job is for suckers, live off the land
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:29 AM
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"Dating isn't easier for women because....men are awful evil creatures and there are significantly less passable men than there are passable women" I don't believe that the quality of men is substantially different than the quality of women. Males have more variance but it balances out because there are more men at both ends of the bell curve than women, in addition to there being slightly more males than females, so women can still collectively all "date up". Your standards are simply too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:31 PM
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Men don't like bad men. Men generally prefer bad men be executed rather than waste our tax money on keeping bad men alive and in prison. Where are you getting this nonsense that men are indifferent to bad men from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:37 PM
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Blackpill hates porn because they hate the idea of women being able to capitalize their bodies and want to channel the male frustration into hate. Shit, you're on to me. I don't hate porn specifically but I loathe egirls, streamers, and vtubers for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:51 PM
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It's deliberate. They want to construct a social environment were low SMV males stay away and invisible while high SMV males take them on the emotional rollercoaster. If you're unsure, don't try at all, you select yourself out the genepool. If you're confident but you're wrong, you're now a criminal and put in prison or a social pariah; selected out of the genepool. They want to construct a social paradigm where only the most attractive and confident men engage with women. And you don't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:28 AM
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Why are people assuming nefarious intentions about this? Chances are way more likely guy was high as fuck, forgot about the doordash entirely, and passed out. She could have easily mistaken this as sexual harassment without nefarious intention on her part as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:09 AM
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I'd wager this is one of those faux-equality beliefs that arise because saying women are worse than men at everything except childbirth is too much to stomach. I highly suspect that when people accuse men of having "less empathy" it's because men will prioritize logic, justice and productivity over their sense of empathy. If a man refuses to give a homeless drug addict $20 whereas a woman does, it might not be because the man is less empathetic but because he is making a reasonable prediction th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:36 PM
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Being in this zone sucks because, your standards have went up to match your lifestyle and your accomplishments This happened to me. There really is no point to being in shape and healthy without the corresponding family or community status to go along with it. Don't believe anyone who lies and says that it has intrinsic value. I don't think even in the modern social media age I've seen a swole voluntary celibate socially isolated monk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:11 PM
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I have no clue how someone reads something that literally says "women don't have a biological clock" and not immediately dismiss it. It's not even worth reading the title itself is in denial of basic observable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:18 AM
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I was a fucking loser, looked my absolute worst, and had ZERO romantic success at that time in my life, See, your problem is you took a relatively small amount of time to come to sweeping conclusions. And in addition to that, this zero romantic success isn't your only experience you've had in your entire life. You haven't had to deal with crippling loneliness being your ONLY sexual experience for -literal- multiple decades on end. You're basically saying "I've done a fast once, I don't know why …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:14 AM
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"try" is not authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:23 PM
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What responsibilities do men have that women don't have? If a woman gets pregnant then she has 100% of the decision on whether to keep it or not, the man has to pay for or lose a child regardless of what he wants. No fault divorce + alimony + child support means that a woman can terminate a marriage and the courts can decide he owes her money, and he has no way of truly vetoing the divorce or absolving himself of fiscal obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:22 AM
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Incels and chronically online men in particular lack subtly lmao look up the definition of confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:10 PM
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Nonsense. The entire liberal egalitarian paradigm is that voluntary association having exclusionary results is problematic and needs to be rectified. It's literally only in the sexual arena ( and even then, only when males are excluded ) that "they just don't want to be around you" is seen as acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:09 AM
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Winners win more, losers lose more and then get spit on for being losers. Being a virgin hurts your relationship chances, which means you're less likely to be able to get a relationship, which means you're more likely to remain a virgin, which hurts your relationship chances in a vicious cycle. We already know females engage in pre-selection. We already know females engage in mate poaching. We already know females respond more positively to men that she believes to already be in a relationship. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:01 PM
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I don't think saying "Everything is fine, you just suck" will get them to fix their lives. If anything it's even more blackpilling. But like my flair says I'm blackpilled I don't think there is anything that can be done about losers as there necessarily will be some % that fail simply because law of large numbers and demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:28 PM
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If everything is fine and nothing is happening, why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:18 PM
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This idea that you must put forth infinity effort and become God Himself because you're allowed to give up or complain about a broken system is extremely tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:52 AM
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Yet another reply merely demonstrating the difference between masculine virtue and feminine virtue. Ah yes there is never a circumstance where physical punishment is warranted. Even if a woman is hitting a man, he is only justified in politely asking her to stop. Demonstrating the futility of escalating violently by overpowering someone physically and disciplining them is too mean. Only the state is allowed to do that! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:37 AM
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Thank you for succinctly demonstrating the difference between masculine virtue and feminine virtue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:09 PM
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It's funny seeing women immediately go for the rape angle once you learn about the kind of smut they read and fetishes you have. My mind went to not being able to discipline wife when she makes a mistake and no fault divorce. Yours went to rape. Who is the rapist, here? But really it's more akin to not being able to physically punish rules breakers in general, than specifically applying violence to women. We're not even allowed to execute a guy with 14 priors who randomly murdered a woman in col…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:43 PM
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If it was possible to turn off desire for women then no sane man would bother turning it back on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:12 PM
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A world without men you would be a bunch of apes shivering from the weather being predating upon by animals and dying from disease and parasites It's astounding how women forget this, as if you can just have all the benefits produced by men without the men. Go live on a savannah with no tools or technology if you want to know what a world without men looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:18 PM
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Undesirable men, unfortunately, are making matters worse by doubling down on becoming scowling, miserable caricatures of masculinity... Because the alternative is becoming a jester and putting in 1000% effort for scraps. It's more dignified to refuse to participate than to practically beg for scraps of pussy. Even the solution you propose: be fun and social Is just code for "pay for everything, let everyone shit on you, be their personal punching bag, do whatever it takes for them to include you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:56 PM
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What is with women thinking getting pumped and dumped by a HVM is in any way reflective of their value as a long term partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:20 AM
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The health benefits weren't worth the effort? No You didn't feel better about yourself at all after losing so much weight? You didn't feel empowered by the fact that you were able to control your lust for food? It eventually goes away when your life is still the same and no one cares. I mean there are so many benefits to being healthy that don't involve women It's all for the purpose of improving evolutionary fitness which ultimately means reproduction. I'm surprised if women was literally the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:26 AM
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I'm morbidly obese. It'll take way longer than 1-2 years for me to get in shape. And you seem to be forgetting the diet part and I'm not willing to give up food that tastes good. Going to be fucked up and might even get the post deleted for being too blackpilling. I was in your situation. Except, I lost the weight. And I still came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the effort. I got zero dates, barely any matches on OLD. Tried doing meetups, nothing. Total sausage fest and the few women I i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:07 PM
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finance minotaur This is the most absurd combination of two words I've seen all year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:02 PM
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How to fix dating: remove all forms of socialist government policy and wealth redistribution. Women are dating irresponsibly because irresponsible life decisions are being subsidized by the taxpayer. Have kids with a deadbeat? Taxpayers have to pay for it. Have STDs? Healthcare insurance is paying for it which is ultimately taxpayers anyways. Higher education ( which is causing status inflation which is causing hypergamy )? Student loans which is ultimately the taxpayer paying for it. Shiny stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:18 PM
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Yes. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:54 PM
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It's weird that everyone treats this "women don't want pushovers" as if it's common sense It's even stranger that people treat this peculiar strain of toxic femininity as mere preference instead of analyzing how awful the implications of the behavior are. When both parties believe "happy spouse, happy life" it is harmony. When a woman believes "happy man, happy life" most men will appreciate it ( men are easy, just be nice to them ) So why is it that a man believing "happy wife, happy life" is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:37 AM
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Yeah...every man who desires things women don't like is just an incel who women don't care about anyways. All the men who women are attracted to are all good feminist allies who have no desires of their own and just want women to live their best life /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:48 AM
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The sheer entitlement and arrogance of wanting to use a business and service and believing you shouldn't have to pay... That women didn't have to pay previously was a business model. That you women ruined. Reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:45 AM
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Oldest profession in the world says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:50 PM
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Name the easiest 3 things you could do to improve your life that you are not doing, and why aren't you doing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:52 PM
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Theory: women have trouble getting orgasms because without clitoral stimulation it's the equivalent of a man trying to hands free orgasm. Maybe having their balls played with, idk. You have to be -extremely- turned on for that to be possible and otherwise you will be hardly aroused at all due to lack of stimulation. Women need to play with their clits more during sex. The problem is you're literally not jorking it and expecting to orgasm anyways. Incel, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:47 PM
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You can't even tell when men are abusive but you think you can predict which men will be able to give you an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:42 PM
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Men are not women. Men are not defective women. Men doing things women don't like isn't inherently toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:18 PM
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who possesses qualities of refinement, courtesy, and good manners none of which make you a nice or good person
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:10 PM
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What do you expect me to do? Just doxx someone I know in real life? Post some internet celebrity which you'll doubtlessly conjure some nonsensical reason why a minor fault makes them an asshole? Your argument was baseless and possibly even unfalsifiable, while you are acting as direct evidence for OPs argument. Be humble and take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:18 PM
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Thanks for proving OPs point, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:57 PM
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Are you a bot? I literally addressed that already. Gentleman =/= nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:56 PM
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One obvious example is when men talk about how they SHOULD be able to get laid because they're good people No one is saying this. They are saying that it sure is strange that women moralize the ability to acquire sex, when all the data shows that dark triad traits are attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:48 PM
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Can you quote where he said he was a nice guy? And no, saying you're a 'gentleman' doesn't mean that you're saying you're a nice guy. English gentlemen also murdered people in duels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:39 PM
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Most men are not ugly nor hot their dating failure can't be blamed on being ugly especially if they are younger The dating failure can be blamed on being average (and therefore boring) and women being hypergamous. This isn't a new idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:38 PM
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None of them ever paid as much as a thought to redpill/incel/looksmaxxing bullshit You have no idea what they are actually thinking even if you ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:01 PM
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absolutely brutal experience. stay strong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:46 AM
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For guys we should be looks maxing and trying to get a good career (just for yourself honestly) to up your chances. The issue with this is; to what end? Great, you spent all your free time making yourself more marketable to other people who view you as an interchangeable sexual economic unit. Now what? You are unlikely to get someone who invests in much in themselves or the relationship as much as you did improving yourself just to get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:33 AM
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Women understand what a "standard" means as well as they understand what "POV" means. "the looks standards is obviously a requirement so that's not part of the 'bar is in hell' discussion" I have seen this unironically posted on ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:21 PM
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This is obvious bait but it made me think of a question: what does women holding women accountable look like? Men holding men accountable is obvious; prison, executions. What does feminine punishment involve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:30 PM
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Yes, we know. We've been saying it since the ok cupid study. All the bluepillers have is "the internet isn't real life" and they're going to die on that hill while the internet continues to corroborate what non-bluepillers are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:57 AM
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Women love toxicity and you can tell because they will literally terminate a relationship because they are bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:05 AM
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Why should we trust you, with zero information over the collage you baselessly insist is cherry picked? Make your own collage. AFAIK you are coping. It is far more likely they just took the top 200 females in the database from the leak and the top 200 males in the leak than that they painstakingly made a hit propaganda piece literally the SAME day the tea leaks happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:40 PM
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About patriarchy what I mean is that women are more conditionned to know more about what men like than the other way around. The absolute audacity that feminists have. Men pursue women. Women have the privilege of accepting and rejecting men at their whim. How do you conclude that women have to know more about what men like than the other way around? Answer: because your beliefs have no bearing on reality and are pure ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:02 PM
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Love when a bluepiller says confidence is attractive. It lets you know you can dismiss everything they say. Confidence does not make a man more attractive. Do not confuse insecurity making an otherwise attractive person less attractive, with confidence making an otherwise unattractive person more attractive. Those are not equivalent. They just call the unattractive confidence person arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:55 PM
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This is some truly "do we really need poor people anymore?" type shit. You literally socialized and externalized almost all the reasons you personally needed men in your life then turn around and say you don't need men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:11 AM
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No we don't, I want someone who has the option to be promiscuous but chooses not to because that reflects character qualities I find attractive. In todays episode of don't listen to what women say, watch what they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:03 AM
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even assuming you're not arguing in bad faith, literally just google it https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=women+made+app+to+red+flag+exes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:39 AM
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Women literally just made an app about complain about toxic exes the #1 app recently lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:07 AM
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Isn't it fucked up how we have to treat women like a flighty temperamental animal for something as important yet innocuous as family formation. All this discussion about courting women seems ironically dehumanizing because just being a decent reasoning & cooperative average human being isn't enough for them. And they can't even say being decent, reasonable, and cooperative is the bare minimum because violent criminals get women all the time. I know my flair is blackpill but that's just the genet…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:30 AM
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Something that isn't acknowledged enough is that the most dangerous thing to women is men...because the men have made the world so safe and removed all the other dangers for women. Without men all those dangers come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:42 AM
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Because when we try to befriend women first, we get friendzoned then accused of being an evil manipulative person for not being Chad wanting to know someone before deciding if we want to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 12:55 AM
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You can’t escape gender, ethnicity, phenotype, disability, and a host of other immutable characteristics. Your point is moot. You're getting into dangerously blackpilled territory, there. And even black female to black female, there are a host of immutable characteristics or privileges that differentiate them from one another. ok Like I alluded, black pillers are just doing “sociological dynamics analysis” but from a pathologically defeatist whiny myopic doomsday purview I agree. But we are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:11 AM
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You can't escape gender so your comparison was nonsensical as far as the blackpill is concerned. Notice how when I offered that actual relevant blackpill comparison ( black female to other females), it's a lot less poignant. Which is why you made the contrived comparison between black female and upper middle class white guy and called it blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:10 PM
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this allows him to avoid uncomfortable truths and the uncomfortable situations like putting himself out there that fixing it would entail. Why do you think that those are comparable to acknowledge that you will be unloved your entire life, die alone, and a core part of the human experience is something that will be unavailable to you? That's way more of an uncomfortable truth than "if I tried harder, I might have succeeded." The only uncomfortable truth would be "if I tried harder, I *would* hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:57 PM
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Based on common “black pill™️” rhetoric, I should’ve offed myself because I was never gonna have it as easy as an upper middle class white guy from the suburbs or something lol. lol lmao, even That's not what the blackpill says at all. You're a female which trumps everything. The blackpill doesn't even apply to you, unless you want to talk about not being as desirable as a white woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:31 PM
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Though coming up with an “it’s over” mindset starting at 12 is insanely unfortunate It's not an accident. It's not hard to notice what kind of boys girls pay attention to and the ones they shun. It just so happens most young boys are on the shunned or friendzoned side. From there, with the internet being age-neutral, it's not difficult to extrapolate your romantic life trajectory by comparing other peoples life trajectories.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:25 PM
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Bluepillers sure do love making arguments that go "men only like x because [reason entirely unrelated to x correlating with better life outcomes]."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:41 PM
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I'm an incel and all the incels I've known don't seem to have much trouble making friends either. It's very obviously a different skill set than attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:05 PM
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Ah yes, the princess era where you have nothing unless you work for it and everyone holds antipathy for you regardless of what your outcome is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:29 PM
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There is no rward for being a male centered woman* *because feminists made damn sure to legislate anything they could possibly need a man for into government authority. In many western jurisdictions men don't even have the right to defend their property from thieves anymore lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:53 PM
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Men have been socialized into seeing pictures of themselves as narcissistic, vain, and cringe. Women have been socialized that taking pictures of themselves is normal and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:17 PM
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Not exaggerating. Not a single time in my life. Some of the women I've asked out looked disgusted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:08 AM
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It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will do to rationalize morality being irrelevant to female sexual attraction. "Uh actually those good men that women aren't attracted too...must be secretly bad!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:24 PM
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You're just arbitrarily deciding what proximate cause is "enough" to establish something as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:30 AM
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Rights don't exist. The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Oh wait, humans didn't like that. Too unfair. Rights exist, but only some humans deserve them. Oh wait, humans didn't like that. Still too unfair. Rights exist, but all humans have them. Oh wait, humans didn't like that. Still too unfair. Rights exist, except certain ones that make people feel bad like subsets of freedom of association, speech, and property rights EXCEPT in regards to sex ( a double exception ) >…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:13 AM
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It's crazy how women transform from equality of outcome socialists to staunch libertarian once sex is involved. And they don't even recognize the philosophical contradiction. Sometimes they even get mad when sex is referred to as capital.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:43 PM
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I'm so tired of women using this tired excuse "b-but predators exist! that means my privilege isn't actually a privilege!" I guess being wealthy is not a privilege because thieves, scammers, and fraudsters will always exist...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:17 PM
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If women were truly concerned about the danger they would hardly leave the house and only under strict conditions, yet it takes Sharia law to -force- women to do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:05 PM
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well you're wrong, so whatever. society is increasingly concerned about young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:13 PM
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you don't get to choose what is valid trauma or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:49 PM
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It is ok to be insecure, and in some cases it is justified. People act like insecurity is a cardinal sin that is never justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:48 PM
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Nah you're trolling. You're a regular poster here. No fucking way you've never heard about dark triad traits and how they correlate positively with sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:01 PM
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It is when you look at what traits have positive and negative correlations with sexual access.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:52 PM
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Following your definition, Type 2 incels don't actually exist. It's just boogeymen that are useful to strawman in real arguments, as if because some trolls exist on the internet it's a serious position that people you disagree with actually hold. The institution of monogamous marriage is the closest thing to real life implementation and advocacy for sexual socialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:38 AM
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When you are failing they say your flaws are why you're failing. When you're succeeding they say your merits are why you succeeded. Even you were the exact same person with the exact same qualities in both cases. What's the name for this? Confirmation Bias? Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:18 PM
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It's hilarious seeing people compare rape to circumcision, especially the ones trying to win a victim contest implying rape is worse or just as bad. It's really not, in a very obvious way. The rape of a man is seen as not as bad as a rape of a woman, rape of an adult is not as bad as rape of a child, and mutilating the genital's is seen as worse than 'just rape'. I didn't make the rules, it is what it is. But when it comes to male circumcision, suddenly genital mutilation of children is 'no big …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:16 PM
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The problem is that this is incomplete: Boring "nice" guys aren't entitled to sex I should be entitled to not be bothered by criminals and socially maladjusted men, but women keep reproducing with those men with their 'reproductive freedom' and making the consequences thereof everyone else problem. Why is it so easy to say "men aren't entitled to sex" but when men want to say "women shouldn't be entitled to taxpayers subsidizing their reproductive decisions then" suddenly bodily autonomy gets th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:58 PM
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Notice how the qualities that you say men say makes a good man benefits everyone and excludes behavior that hurts everyone, but the ones you say make a good man really only benefits you and himself, and doesn't even exclude behavior that harms everyone else. It's a very 'interesting' difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:43 PM
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When I say attractiveness, I'm not talking about looks . It's way more than that. Maturity, wisdom, life experience, self-confidence, etc. These are very attractive traits! Women thinking that these traits make them attractive are just as delusional as men who think being a Nice Guy is attractive. This notion that older women are less attractive is baseless. Ask most women, and they will tell you that older women are more attractive because we know ourselves and what we want. Did I misread the O…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:24 AM
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Because it's successful while doing it. why would a rich person feel bad about being a millionaire by hurting people? If he was capable of feeling bad he wouldn't be a millionaire. In OPs case, if he wasn't a bad person he wouldn't be as successful with women. Why should he feel bad about being a bad person, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:24 PM
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If that was true then explain all the Hikikomori's, the lying flat movement, the NEETs, and the doomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:50 PM
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The issue is that women were encouraged to shit on men as some kind of liberation and have zero pushback from it. Even on reddit if you dare to critisize women, their actions or bodies, you would be called out and banned. The same but about men will not get the same treatment. I went on r/WomenDatingOverForty once and I've seen posts about men that would have gotten you banned anywhere else on reddit if you said it about women. And yet women here will make false equivalence all fucking day as if…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:30 PM
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The biggest smoking gun is if as many men said they had a rape fetish as women do, women could be crying bloody murder about rape culture and how that stat is the bloody glove proving it. But a sizable number of women have a rape fetish and it's "just a kink/preference" and doesn't say anything about how women conduct themselves. And we know that women believe that sexual interests inform real life conduct because women insist it does for harmless male fetishes -already-. Women are allowed to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:37 PM
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"Any price the free market offers is, by definition, fair" What wonderful insight. If only bluepillers could apply their libertarian ideals of sexuality to governance and the economy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:30 PM
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Did you forget that there's a lot more to society than reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:28 PM
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Men already accept that no one cares about them except for what he can provide for others. It's women who have a problem with the idea that no one cares about them except for the possibility of sex she can provide to men. It's women complaining about sexual objectification, not men complaining about utilitarian objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:10 PM
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I'd like to see an example of a civilization collapsing because of That's like saying "show me an example of a social media influencing human behavior" in 2000 as evidence social media has zero impact on socialization. It has literally not been possible for people to be physically socially isolated before the technological revolution- you had to be in physical proximity with those you were socializing with before the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:41 AM
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This is wrong. There are artificial economic distortions introduced by technology and government action. It's like saying that humans do not naturally labor for food because they live in a socialist government providing food for them. It's disturbing how much people will dismiss human behavior in history as not being a product of nature, but then turn around and say what is happening RIGHT NOW, at the cutting edge of the technological society, is "natural behavior".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:40 PM
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it won’t affect society one bit The affect will be extremely profound. Lonely men are probably physically socially isolated. Physically socially isolated men don't just gather dust alone in their rooms, they go on the internet. These young men are on the internet, and they see a lot of information. They WILL be biased towards information that conforms with their lived expiernece ( A society that does not care about them at best, typically discriminates against them ). They will be entirely uncoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:26 PM
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Your problem is this: why would you want to make a long term commitment and put yourself in a vulnerable position ( divorce, child suppport ) to someone who would give all the benefits of a relationship with her away to someone else without imposing those risks upon him? Humans generally don't like being upcharged for no reason other than the sales associate doesn't like you as much as another customer. You'll just take your business elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:25 PM
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It's because nerds were nice enough to be willing to at least her feminists out, whereas rappers would just tell them to shut the fuck up. But feminists couldn't help themselves from seeing that as a merit instead of an opportunity to henpeck even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:29 PM
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The experiment has already been run and the results are in. This. It's so strange seeing people make baseless speculations about alternative possibilities as if actual history didn't already happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:26 PM
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where is the problem? there is no contradiction men wanting to have sex does not make them bad. men not wanting bad men to have sex does not make them bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:59 PM
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“leading,” Having to decide what to have for dinner because she doesn't know what she wants is leadership. protecting Don't pretend that men aren't expected to put themselves in harms way to protect their woman. Drafts still exist. And before you say "b-but draft doesn't happen!" tell that to Ukraine and Russia. providing Women expect her man to earn more money than her. Women expect the men they date to pay. Women treat his money as their money, but her money is her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:53 PM
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This. It's the difference between teaching moderation to a rich fat kid whose parents buy him whatever he wants vs trying to teach a subsistence farmer nutrition theory. The latter is going to eat whatever he can get his hands on and still probably be healthier than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:47 PM
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What does this have to do with him expecting default submission without inspiring it? Because the default position -is- inspiring it the man inspires respect by leading her, providing for her, and protecting her. things still expected of men in the current year, except he doesn't 'inspire respect' for the efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:10 PM
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submitting is just respecting someone's authority enough that you take it on good faith that listening to them is the better outcome. Or pretending that you do, which still reinforces their status to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:07 PM
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I’ve never understood why some men expected a woman to default “submit to him” Are you joking? You're a PPD mod. You should at least be aware of what the sexual consequences are when a woman doesn't respect a man. without him inspiring it. the man inspires respect by leading her, providing for her, and protecting her. things still expected of men in the current year, except he doesn't 'inspire respect' for the efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:51 PM
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"Always paranoid" doesn't make sense in this context. It's just 1 and done for each kid. It's not like you're getting annual paternity tests wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:09 AM
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Good people don't exist because if they were a good person, they wouldn't think that they were a good person! I am a profound philospher! Thoughts generated from the mind of the utterly deranged. People have taken Christianity's "no person is without sin" concept and went way too far with it. Here's an easy way to tell if someone is a good person: Do they contribute more to society than they take? Do they not violate other peoples consent and liberties? If everyone else behaved like them, would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:01 AM
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In short, men can be called losers for similar behaviors on both sides of the political spectrum. It's not seen as acceptable to call women losers for any reason on either side of the political spectrum outside of some very far right memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:49 PM
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For me and some other single women I know, no man means that we have not sought romantic relationships, romantic attention, or sex from men in years. Ok. So the "as she pleases" rate for you just happens to be measured in years. Doesn't disprove my point. I and some other single women I know make more than the average American household and are not benefiting from any wealth redistribution from the average man. I don't know about your personal circumstances, but unless you had top GPA, test scor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:51 PM
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Starvation and exposure isn't a natural outcome of a father abandoning his children and wife. The two aren't comparable, because one is a natural consequence of bad decision making, and the other requires state enforced punishment for bad decision making. They are not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:24 PM
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Something you have to keep in mind is "No man" isn't actually no man, but taxpayer wealth redistribution, hiring/enrollment preferences, and the still having sex as she pleases. How many single mothers would there be if, in a modern western country, there was a real risk of death from starvation or exposure for her or her children for irresponsible reproductive decisions? Too many on PPD compartmentalize facets of peoples lives, as if it's not all interrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:04 PM
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People keep assigning so much horseshit to the friendzone when it's not that deep. Friendzone is simple: One party likes the other party as a person and also as a romantic prospect. The other party only likes the other party as a non-sexual person and is otherwise not sexually attracted. It is not any deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:39 AM
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If there was no lie, then why were so many men under the impression they were lied to? No one wakes up one day thinking society lied to them about clouds being radioactive green for no reason whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:44 PM
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You know what I mean by preferences in facets of other humans being seen as discriminatory and illegal that is contrasted in terms of sexual attraction preferences being totally fine. Stop playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:05 PM
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The difference is that no one is telling women that they must be morally contemptible if men aren't attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:04 PM
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The issue is that in literally every other facet of society, we control how people are allowed to express their "preference". When someone has a "preference" in a non-sexual context, we are liable to call it discrimination and make it outright illegal. I'm not saying women should be forced to date men they aren't attracted to. I'm merely pointing out the latent hypocrisy that is contrary to the social values they espouse otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:16 PM
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Why would you think that because men are sexually attracted to femininity, that it follows they would respect it? Maybe that's how sexuality works for women, needing to respect something to be attracted to it. But that's not how men work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:58 PM
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Men aren't the ones saying "I'd never date a woman who reads and studies hard, that is so corny" Men think femininity is degrading because it damages their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:13 PM
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On the other hand some people just don't wanna go through the motions of "training" someone. This smells like bullshit. Does not pass the smell test. It's just an excuse to cover for your subconscious rejection of a loser. How often do you go into a relationship and everything just works out without you having to communicate with them? Even if you're married, it probably didn't happen. If you have ex-relationships, it certainly didn't happen. What "training" did you have to do in your first rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:21 PM
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It's midwits playing linguistic games and trying to make "Good" mean something other than what it is. If you have to put good in scare quotes to describe a morally upright and contributing member of society, you're full of shit. If you move the goalposts and say being good is the bare minimum in an attempt to downplay and diminish the value of being a morally upright and contributing member of society, you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:45 PM
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however around 20% of the American population earn that amount How old is that demographic, though? What's the marital status of that demographic? Young women (18-23) expecting a guy their age (18-27 ) to earn 6 figures is ridiculous; that's less than 1% of the population. That's why they want 6 figures; it's not something they could be earning themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:21 PM
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"People who believe AI can replace real humans should be judged" See how dumb a statement that is? What is it about the sexual economy that magically makes the statement false?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:28 AM
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It's more like Try = 0.1% of getting a cute girlfriend. This could be attributable to a rounding error.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:30 PM
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The women on PPD seem to have trouble understanding that predators and exploiters will exist in any complex social system, and they confuse the existence of such exploiters with endorsement of the exploiters. No clue how you can come to that conclusion despite literally everything in society saying otherwise OTHER than the women spreading their pussies for deadbeat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:58 PM
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You said you let them live rent-free. You don't think that's possibly a conflict of interest for them telling you to your face that you're a creep? I'm beginning to suspect you are, in fact, a creep. Letting women stay rent-free is creepy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:35 AM
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EVERYONE looks rough. Women use products to conceal it to varying levels of effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:17 AM
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Unfortunately, you don't get to decide if you're a creep; other people do. You are indistinguishable from a creep who insists they aren't a creep. Most creeps don't know they are creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:15 AM
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So you're saying that you're not considered a predator because you don't "look" like one, despite being creep. Almost as if the shaming has little to do with behavior but more with lookism...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:16 PM
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Elliot Rodgers was a decade ago, sis. This is like using 9/11 to justify carpet bombing the Middle East. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:51 AM
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but a lot of guys really do give off “friend vibes” by just being too nice and they expect it to lead to something more It's crazy that this is seen as a problem, not a green flag. And people wonder where sexism comes from...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:39 PM
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The funniest thing about feminism is that if women were truly held to the same standards, we loop back around to sexism because women are not men and do not act like men, and women would fail those male standards of behavior. It's not that feminism is unfalsifiable. It's that feminism expects women to be treated better than men, because women will fail the standards of being treated on the level of men ( with the same expectations of emotional continence, duty, and obligations ), which is sexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:31 PM
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There is no sixth sense. It's just: -is she equally or more physically attractive than he is? -does he enjoy her company? -is he heterosexual? -will he not be in social jeopardy having a sexual relationship with her? ( this covers the "I'm not attracted to my female friend that is married" bullshiting ) Then he wants a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:23 PM
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Men and women aren't the same. Women respond to shaming language more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:16 AM
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Ah, yes, if we tell criminals they are naughty boys, they may stop committing crimes. This mindset is why we still have so much crime in the first place, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:22 PM
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All these posts denying there is a sexual market feel like "Don't call them slaves, call them 'workers'." because calling a spade a spade makes you feel bad, so you want to pretend it's not what it is. Women generally act like trust fund baby capitalists with their reproductive capacity. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:28 PM
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The people selling can choose to do business with you or not. It's just that it's been made illegal to refuse to do business with someone for most reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:18 PM
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Women aren't radicalising men. They are. In the same way that harm can happen via discrimination when exclusively voluntary associations take place that don't violate anyone's rights, women harm men via exclusionary behavior despite the women only engaging in voluntary associations without violating lonely men's rights. The West just spent the past several decades establishing that such trends are a valid cause for concern. You can't suddenly pretend it's not just because sex is involved now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:06 AM
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The sexless boys are the ones who look the other way when the Gestapo are knocking at your door for wrongthink. They'll probably join you in the camps ( fascists love a scapegoat) or be sent to war, but they already have little to lose. You are losing more than they ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:38 AM
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There is genuinely nothing that can be said to make them hate you more. I disagree. Just a small "incels are right, I just won the lottery of birth" goes a long way. Staying humble and remembering that no one got to choose to be born at least doesn't feel like you're spitting in our faces for the crime of existing. My personal theory is that there are men who have made it all the way to their 20s without having even been with someone. That's me. They see thread after thread about women who are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:21 AM
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Anyone else notice how when there's a discussion about the unsavory aspects of female sexuality, everyone is dismissive? But when it's about distasteful aspects of male sexuality, suddenly men need to change their behavior for the good of society? Men like no-strings-attached sex with women they don't know? Stop treating women like sex objects. Are men attracted to teenagers and those in their early 20s? That's grooming and creepy; they should date someone their age. On the other hand: Women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:37 PM
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Men aren't mad because they believe sexual attraction is moral. Men are mad because women lie about sexual attraction being moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:24 PM
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Men keep talking about sex with women like its something that is done to women. Because women act like it's something done to them. If the average man asks a random woman if she wants to have sex, she doesn't treat it like he asked to engage in a casual pastime or service. Men keep saying men prefer younger women. Entirely irrelevant for male sexuality being disgusting, and only makes sense if you assume it's awful by default. Men are the ones who consume gross sex fantasies from porn sites, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:38 AM
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It's another episode of women playing at being hardcore libertarians and social Darwinists while they arrange society to be socialist in any other area where they don't have an overwhelming advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:37 PM
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You are correct, but you are also dismissive of the desperation. It's very easy to say "know your place, salesman" when you're in a position of privilege and not the salesman desperate for a paycheck to keep a roof over his head. If you don't like it, don't pursue complete strangers. "If you don't like it, get another job" What an insightful take. I don't believe any "salesman" ever thought of that before!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:35 PM
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It's not unintentional Women find male sexuality disgusting and are trying to turn men into asexual worker drones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:32 PM
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Society already has arbitrary and self-serving concepts of "personal responsibility", convenient how that's not a problem though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:36 PM
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Burden of proof is on you. You can't just make shit up and say "but there's no evidence it's NOT true!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:34 PM
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Women nor society are applying any oppression, they are not stealing or forcing you to do anything nor are they trying to control you or your body. This is simply not true. A sizable amount of government welfare is the state subsidizing women's personal reproductive decisions. It's literally just women leaving you alone and wanting you to leave them allne. They want to be left alone, until a criminal accosts them then suddenly it's every man's in the vicinity's responsibility to help them It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:21 PM
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Women aren't even reproducing with men they DO like. Women are just straight up not reproducing. Women are not fulfilling their reproductive responsibility, it has nothing to do with "I don't want to mate with men I don't like", that's just a convenient excuse to gain sympathy. You're not even having kids with "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:21 PM
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And the only way to find out if it is consensual or not is to make the sexual advance, because men can't read minds, and women aren't interested in making their interest obvious. You are setting up a kafka trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:13 AM
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Men have a sense of duty, and failing that, the threat of violence to prevent them from engaging in socially destructive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:33 PM
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Exactly. The unfortunate truth is that men want women more than women want men, ceteris paribus. It's more like the utility that women want out of men has been highly socialized ( as in socialism ), while the utility men want of women has not. It's like a market where a business is trying to compete with another company that can have the government print money to loan to themselves.. The former will never be able to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:29 PM
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The global economy is highly complex, and most men's participation is vital -> Most men aren't worthy of relationships -> Women do not value those men > Civilization is not worth maintaining. That's basically what women are collectively saying Women don't have a sense of duty, so they don't feel obligated to reproduce with men they aren't strongly attracted to to maintain the civilization they enjoy. I've seen it written here before, women saying that they would rather humanity go extinct than f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:15 PM
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I've had this idea about archetypes same as OP. I'm unique behavior-wise, and unsurprisingly, I haven't had any women interested in me my whole life. There's a reason women who are into black men don't want "normal person, but black guy," but lean into the men who express a hypermasculine stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:35 PM
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Pigeonholing men into archetypes is the opposite of caring about personality. It's treating some people as interchangeable units as long as they fit a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:31 PM
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This is like when someone asks you want you want on your pizza, you list off a bunch of ingredients. Then you give them their pizza and they get mad that it's not the kind of pizza they wanted because the crust wasn't gluten-free because you're supposed to JUST KNOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:14 AM
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\Tupac getting rejected by women because he was too nice* Hello, HR? \Tupac being a boisterous misogynist* Aw, you're sweet!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:58 PM
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"normal people don't believe what you say" and "what you say is a terminally online take" is a form of S.I.G.N. ( shame, insult, guilt, need-to-be-right) language. Bluepillers like saying it because it reframes the argument with them having an unfalsifiable position ("-I- don't know anyone with these concerns" -> "It must not be a common issue/stance" -> "If you are the only one with a problem, then you are the problem" ) The solution is to just ignore the people who come to an online debate for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:14 AM
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I am in awe of how profoundly short-sighted and wrong your post is. Here's a simple thought experiment: being a republican while having a democrat boss and coworkers, or vise versa. Does that mean being a democrat or republican isn't normal, depending entirely on your extremely local demographic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:06 AM
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Of course you would, because you do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:43 PM
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People who think the predicted negative outcomes of a behavior are a "Revenge fantasy" are just as delusional as people who engage in the Just World fallacy. If I say "if you stick your hand on a hot stove, you'll get burned" it's not a revenge fantasy of me hoping your hand gets burned. It's me telling you not to do it because I don't want you to get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:35 PM
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Stop pretending "freedom of association" means anything when it only lets people discriminate without consequence. That's literally what it means. The civil rights act wasn’t about forcing anyone to like someone,it was about stopping businesses from excluding people based on race or gender. People should be free to associate with whom they want, regardless of the reason. it just allows them to act on their biases with no accountability Not your business. You're not entitled to people treating yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:01 PM
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You didn't substantiate anything you said. "wow I can't even" and "no that's not true." is not an argument. when in reality it simply exposed who thrives when people have choices and who doesn't. It exposed who thrives when people have choices by... explicitly removing freedom of association. Removing choice from some people. Removing legal protections won't make people suddenly prefer you. It will stop businesses from being forced to pick or consider people they dont' want to. The sociosexual m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:21 PM
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You not liking something doesn't make it an invalid solution. Islam is going strong with billions of followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:09 PM
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If you're poor, it's a YOU problem. You need to pick yourself up by your bootstraps and put in an honest day's work for once in your life instead of complaining about the economy or the job market. It's so tiresome seeing liberals say "government needs to enforce fairness because mutual consent and freedom of association aren't fair," then turn around into staunch libertarians when it comes to relationships. And before someone replies with "hurr how government make relationships fair?", that's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:59 PM
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I'll take the love, as long as the "disrespect" is only for legitimate ( as I see it ) reasons and not meaningless hen pecking ( i.e. you didn't read my mind and do house chores exactly when I wanted you to! ) If the 1st option includes henpecking and inane, nonsensical nagging, I'll take option 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:43 PM
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Western men have been domesticated more than any other group of men, and still they do not behave close to well enough for women to feel comfortable looooooool. Men could be literal chattel slaves to women and women would -still- feel uncomfortable about how men behave. Women will never be satisfied with how men behave, because men will never be automatons that exist solely on women's terms. Men can accept that women have their own agency ( if they didn't, feminism would have never got off the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:38 PM
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Women are part of the relationship dichotomy, you can’t have a guy who has a bunch of friends and is roaming around being courageous and easygoing and then at the same time never been in a relationship and is struggling to get dates that’s impossible Just World Fallacy. Bluepillers really love that one. Also, you did not account for looks. An ugly man can easily have lots of friends. That doesn't translate to ease of getting women. Did not read the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:21 PM
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The government is already intervening and making things worse. Less government interference would improve dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:07 PM
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You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. I am Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights That's not even true outside of- dating Right. This mentality is just a derivative of feminism. We need social, financial, and government intervention everywhere to make society more fair, except in the one place where females have an overwhelming advantage. Coincidence? I think not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:40 PM
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Little boys walk around in Spiderman suits, that doesn’t mean they’re being “conditioned” to be superheroes. Uh...that is literally what is happening. They won't have superpowers for obvious reasons, but they are certainly being conditioned to adhere to the comic book morality cape heroes have. You've never heard of the Comic Code Authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:20 AM
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Jamie, assume you're talking about the Netflix show, is a total work of fiction because making media that is in good faith and accurate about crime or incels will get you called racist and misogynist. Here's what an accurate "incel" show would look like: -has a few friends because schooling makes it easier to form shallow connections through proximity, not deep friendships, though -he goes to zero non-mandatory school events. No, there's no "losers go to homecoming anyways", that's bullshit. May…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:33 AM
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Women don't want "financial stability". If they didn't, debt wouldn't be at an all-time high. You want the ability to have whatever you want without putting in the effort to afford it. Or, similarly, and still bad, you DO put in the effort to afford what you want, which makes you dissatisfied with men who are satisfied with less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:45 AM
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No woman has ever said all you have to do to get a mate is be nice. You should stop telling people what their own lived experience is. I've seen it enough that I know I've been seen it said it in no uncertain terms. No one is going to give you a source for everything they've read while scrolling social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:58 PM
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>says there is no just world fallacy >then proceeds to assume negative qualities about lonely men can't make this shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:47 PM
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It's funny. Animals near certainly have feelings but that doesn't stop anyone from butchering and eating them. But having sex with a robot that idiots believe has agency? It deserves rights and to have sex with it is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:41 AM
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Evidently not true. Pets don't get to choose their owners, yet they seem to have no problem expressing love for their owners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:00 AM
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It's hilarious how much men have domesticated themselves, and now women turn around and get the ick at "modern men". Utopia doesn't exist. Modern men are about as good as it gets. The alternatives are probably worse, if you care about autonomy. Personality and archetypes don't exist in a vacuum. You can't pick and choose which facets of masculinity express themselves. If you don't want men to be dominant and authoritarian, you get submissive and egalitarian men. Men aren't going to be vampire pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:58 AM
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Men need relationships like humans need religion. Women need relationships like humans need tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:29 AM
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It's hilarious seeing Peterson shit on mgtow but I just know he would burst into tears and probably suicide if he had to live our lives. He couldn't even handle his own normie life without getting addicted to drugs and almost dying. I doubt he could handle being romantically and socially isolated for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:53 PM
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lmao you can't make this up me: "Why do women act like time before the 20th century didn't exist?" you: "My grandfather was born in 1909" Whereabouts were they put to death and where? Again, do you think religious law was just a joke they put in their holy books for a laugh? Such a joke one of the holy book narratives is God himself intervening to prevent an execution for breaking the rules. Witch hunts happened, people freaking out over something that doesn't actually exist and wasn't really me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:46 PM
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Again, murder always existed, too. So did rape. Doesn't mean breaking religious law was regarded as "oh, you did a minor oopsie, just make sure no one finds out ;)". Even divorce was such a big deal that it took the monarch of a nation to brute force the rules to be changed. You already know, because you use the term "sneaking into barns" and "open secret". No shit people aren't going to volunteer themselves to be tried as criminals. But it was done in secrecy because they knew it wasn't allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:40 PM
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Why do women act like time before the 20th century didn't exist? People took religion very seriously. For those who didn't, there were religious laws with specified punishments for breaking them. Sure, people always cheated. They are also always murderers. Except back then, there weren't state institutions with plenty of food and board to house them. Guess what happened? Did you think "adulterers are to be put to death" was just a joke and no one did it? It's crazy how modern people see "people …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:09 AM
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People who are worse than you in every way fail upward because they have a positive view of themselves. Just World Fallacy strikes again. You should stop doing that. Never being good enough. The lived experience demonstrates this. It's not a result of men beating themselves up alone in the dark. If you’re getting the same negative feedback over and over again What negative feedback? Not being given a chance to even try? Everyone knows what it’s like to try and still fail. That's not what the iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:26 PM
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It’s a subset of men that hold such deeply negative beliefs about themselves This mindset doesn't just arise from nowhere. Usually it arises from repeated failures while seeing people who appear to be worse than you in every way fail upwards. beliefs about themselves that they see perfectionism as the only way out Not perfectionism. They know that who they are is not good enough, and they do not predict that a better version of themselves will get a different outcome. That's far from perfectioni…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:01 PM
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no to discount your effortpost but that you're comparing dating to a job interview is crazy and I'm not interested in such an arrangement. Ironically, I botched the job interview for where I currently work, but got the job anyway because my boss knew that I had qualities that I didn't show during the interview itself. The problem is that women either never get to know me enough, or the ones who do decide that those qualities aren't good enough for a relationship (in other words, friendzone )
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:50 PM
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See, most men were the “nice guy” at some point, the one who listened, cared, waited, helped with homework, gave relationship advice to the girl crying over her “toxic” boyfriend, carries a kind of romantic scar. It’s not always visible, but it’s there. You know what's hilarious? Men weren't like this in history. Then women had feminism. Men genuinely tried to change. It turned out that women didn't like the men they asked for at all. I'd wager if men went back to "women should be seen, not hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:00 PM
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How much does someone have to try until they are justified in giving up ( I made a thread about this and mods blocked it, lmao )? As much as the average person? i.e. no trying, just do what comes naturally? Get their overall stats to be above 50% of all men their age range (i.e. average height, weight, fitness, salary, and wealth)? Above 70% of men? 80%? 90%? How many cold approaches? 10? 100? 1000? Do they need to start a steroid regimen? Do they have to buy masculinity courses? When people say…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:31 PM
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You're insane. Relationships are a two way street. It is, by definition, an external locus of control. You can't make people like you. Just World Fallacy. So you have a friend who self-sabotages, and you conclude that it is applicable to all men. Nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:18 PM
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He did not have a good face, so tired of hearing this. He was below-average and weird-looking. He also didn't have much money; his parents did, and it wasn't an absurd amount, evidenced by the fact that no gold diggers were flocking to him. He was a goofy-looking, short, biracial man who barely made it into the middle class in an area where people were white, attractive, and wealthy. He didn't stand a chance with the demographic he was after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:16 PM
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OP is just straight up wrong. There is no debate here. OP is a woman who has no clue what the male experience is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:30 PM
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Women should be free to do whatever they wish, as long as it's legal and consensual - this goes for men too. It's funny that society has already agreed that "legal and consensual" is not enough ground to allow something. Not to mention that "legal" is a meaningless self-serving weasel word. Freedom of association is "legal and consensual", until it isn't. Certain groups being excluded is seen as enough of a reason to make "freedom of association" take a backseat to the wants of the excluded grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:49 PM
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For you and them. More importantly, for everyone else. When a woman decides to have a kid with a bad man, it's not just her, him, and the kid who are affected. If the kid becomes a criminal, it's society paying for that decision. If the mother goes on welfare, it's society paying for that decision. If that child enters the public education system, it's society paying for that decision. If the father is a criminal, other men see that and decide to act more like a criminal to increase their chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:42 PM
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This is so stupid. You know full damn well how men act towards male "bad apples". If words worked, there wouldn't be bad apples. If anything, the feminization of society has made the punishments of "bad apples" more lenient. It's not men who advocate for "soft on crime" policies. It's not men treating criminals like they are merely children who made an oopsie. Are you sure you're a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:06 AM
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I don't think women need to do anything when rejecting men. If you're intelligent, being rejected repeatedly in and of itself is enough of a heuristic to know that there's something wrong with you. The problem arises because society is lying to men; men arrive at the wrong conclusions about why he is being rejected. Then women perpetuate the lie and attack anyone trying to tell the man the truth: he needs to improve his looks, money, and/or status. Women will reflexively lie and say it is his pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:53 AM
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*Unempathetic beings. This is just flat out wrong. Otherwise, women would have never gotten the rights they have to begin with. It's like complaining that the person giving you money is too poor to give you more money while you're begging. gtfo of here *Not in tune with their emotions at all, unable to look inward and see character flaws they might have. Thus, making it hard for them to actually work on relationships. We are in tune with our emotions, we are just logical enough to know that in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:10 PM
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"Conservative men compalain bout the decline of society, but pornography exists!" I'm tired of this dumb argument. Porn is no big deal. Prostitution has always existed. What are the things that have not always existed, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:51 PM
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Your use of the term has clearly biased connotations. Literally just google the term. It's not that hard. come to regard (someone) solely as a friend, despite their unreciprocated romantic or sexual interest. Well, what do you know? It matches up with my definition, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:54 PM
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Friendzone is specifically if a person pretends to be your friend to get something out of you. That's not what the friendzone is. Friendzone comes from when a woman says "I like you as a friend," which is a rejection when a man asks a female friend out. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:38 PM
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You didn't demonstrate the friendzone isn't real. The friend zone doesn’t exist. You need to be a man and tell the girl you like her directly & stop being so scared. Mot of the friendzone term comes from "I like you as a friend" which happens when you ask the woman out. It's not like men are just pretending to be a woman's friend and waiting for her to offer sex at some point. Also tired of the implication that men can't develop attraction to a woman after getting to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:33 PM
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There is a clear correlation between the ability to acquire romantic relationships and LMS. Congrats, you discovered the status component. Most men don't have "#1 in the world" to boast about. The men who have the most trouble getting women are typically located somewhere a standard deviation to the left of the attractiveness bell curve, with normal to introverted interests. Attractive men are still interested in having easy casual sex with those men's looksmatch (passable women), while ugly wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:14 AM
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bruh did you seriously just compain about the military "wanting to control women's bodies" because of dress/grooming codes? The very same military that has rules on grooming and dress for everyone? Holy shit, windmill flowers is such a shitty troll. I can't even say she makes women look bad. I might even suspect "she" is a male troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:14 PM
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If workers don't like the job they can quit and get another job somewhere else or even employ themselves. Are you saying that the dynamics of mutual consensual relationships still require government intervention ( and often, making it so the relationship is no longer mutually consensual ) to make things fair for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:43 AM
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look up what a selection bias is. you're a normie integrated in normie social networks then saying that because you don't see non-normies / losers in your social networks they must not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:37 PM
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It's crazy how women act like staunch libertarians when it comes to the sexual market, after all the campaigning for government intervention in the economic market.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:33 PM
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And any price the free market offers is, by definition, fair. Reasonable people recognize that absolute freedom based on mutual consent isn't actually fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:28 PM
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I clicked on a link randomly 2024 Bondi Junction stabbings Reading for how the perpetrator is a misogynist... His motive remains unknown. OP can't be trusted to tell the truth.. Here's a free mass structural violence against men as a result of misandry: Circumcision. Even if you take the most generous justification that "it's cleaner", it implies men can't be trusted to maintain their hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:09 PM
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Shaming works only as long as you choose to give a damn. Just straight-up wrong. Did you forget there's more than 2 people on the planet? Other people can react to rumors about you regardless of how accurate they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:19 AM
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the hapless male virgin who endured endless humiliations was a stick character of comedies from the era You should dig a level deeper. The heroes get relationships. The side characters get relationships. Hell, the -villains- get relationships. So what does it say about you as a person when you can't identify with the heroes, villains, or even the background characters? No story you've ever consumed in your life can even conceive of anything similar to you as a person. You feel utterly dehumanize…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:14 AM
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What they think is that they've performed the required service to women. Society told them Women Want X And Will Give You Y So Long As You Give Them X. They've provided X. Now they're realizing society lied. This. It's like society is pulling some lawyer bullshit on young men "I may have implied if you do X, you will receive Y. But we never had lawyers draft a contract and sign it, so you're not entitled to shit you loser." It's weasel bullshit and no one likes that kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:04 AM
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You know we live in a gynocracy because feminists can campaign to get a game taken down if it makes them upset. Happened multi times. Anyone remember Rapelay? Hot coffee? Meanwhile, it didn't matter how much Christians whinged about violent videogames, they weren't ever successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:46 PM
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Cold approaching is a humiliation ritual, annoying even when a stranger strikes up a conversation platonically. I've had men strike up a conversation with me before, and it never leaves me feeling any better than if they hadn't talked to me at all. I'll still engage in the conversation just to pass the time ( which I assume is why they are doing it ), but I could have just as well spent that time not talking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:53 AM
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How would you even notice this unless you were staring at them. At which point, YOU are the problematic one. wtf is this hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:49 AM
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Avoiding approaching women 0% chance of success. Avoiding helping women in public I don't help anyone Avoid looking in our direction at the gym I avoid looking at anyone Avoiding us in the workplace No one wants to be 1:1 with a woman and open themselves up for a he-said she-said HR bullshit that ends with you getting fired just to save everyone a headache, time, and money Avoiding marriage no fault divorce What are the ways in which you do it and why There is no benefit to treating women better…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:44 AM
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I made friends at work, but they all moved away. This is the primary issue. People are rootless, and over time, communities and social circles degrade because economic opportunity can't be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:37 PM
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If they were useless they wouldn't have developed the way they did. Something about fools removing a fence because they forgot why it was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:24 PM
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Imagine how devastating it would be for humanity if, back in the medieval ages, the average young male peasant were unable to get married because the peasant women all thought there was a better marriage prospect waiting for them in the city. That's basically what's happening now, except for some reason, the young men are being blamed for being loser peasants.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:54 PM
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I've given up on dating (more like sent my own way). It's not just a reaction. It's basic reasoning and extrapolation. If the women who know my personality and like it enough to be friends with me aren't attracted to me, then I have zero chance with cold-approaching strangers for dates. And what do you know, my dating app experiences follow this prediction. Your argument is as dumb as assuming that young men are turning down sex, parties, and friendship to play video games. What is happening is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:38 PM
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Then maybe they should pursue their female counterparts (non white women) instead of chasing white women? Sounds like a very obvious solution to me. Why would you assume they are chasing white women and not simply chasing any women, of which white women are included? No one said anything about chasing white women specifically. A white woman naturally preferring to sleep with white guys is more racist than a NEONAZI with a fetish that would pump and dump a non-white girl? Neonazis marry non-white…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:14 PM
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Oh boy here we go, the usual "it's not racist it's just preference if I'm categorically not attracted to [race]" I feel that’s mostly a big problem if non-white men only want to date white women or prefer them over non-white women "I feel that's mostly a big problem if MEN [...] Blaming men again for female preferences. You're even making up a scenario to justify it. ( Tu quoque ) Being a fetish or someone’s pump and dump material isn’t a compliment either Assuming the worst. Being a fetish or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:43 PM
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It's SUPER EASY to not be threatening to someone. I'm black so that life experience alone is how I know you're full of shit. People can feel like you're a threat even when you're doing nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:36 PM
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in a way that doesn't threaten them. So we're back to men are supposed to read womens mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:52 PM
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get labeled a heux scarer people don't want to invite you places anymore your social life dies in a feedback loop women love downplaying things they've never had to experience or deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:37 PM
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I had female friends/acquaintances. They all rejected me. Wat nau?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:29 PM
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My discomfort is due to a man with zero chill. And what is the "chill"? I don't understand the contention. This entire argument started about women not liking directness, unlike men, and you're just confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:31 AM
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Well, of course you're going to say that; you're a woman, and directness exacerbates your discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:03 AM
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We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think being a woman's jester just so you can be accepted or dismissed on her whim is masculine. I honestly don't even know what flirting looks like. Every time I see someone provide examples, the only difference between "w rizz" and "l rizz" seems to be how accepting the woman is of his advances. It all ranges from banal to cringeworthy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:05 PM
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But his point is that flirting is not masculine at all. Speaking indirectly is not a masculine trait. Again, that was their point. Speaking indirectly to maintain plausible deniability is socialized out of men because men prefer direct communication. Again, their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:41 PM
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This was a completely different thread than I was expecting. You're right but for the wrong reasons. The actual reason is that white's have an overwhelming advantage in dating and non-white issues are simply incomparable. This is why so many incels are non-white. They are more likely to reject the both red pill and blue pill in favor of anything looks based Because in a Western society, their non-whiteness is the primary thing hindering them in dating. If you stop pretending that female dating p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:35 PM
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An interesting question is why is it that mediocre men don't bother with looksmaxxing, while attractive men do? No, I don't mean mediocre men that looksmax and became attractive men, while the men who didn't remained mediocre. I mean, model-tier men seem to be more liable to engage in looksmaxxing, while mediocre men simply give up and try to make it work with what comes naturally to them. The only demographic of mediocre men that seem to care about their clothing is average black men. Or maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:20 PM
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So tired of this dumb shit where a woman can like or dislike whatever she likes in men and it's just a preference, but when men like or dislike something in women it's misogyny and problematic. Just shut the fuck up and stop trying to dictate what is ok for men's sexual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:16 PM
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She's...tilting at windmills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:24 PM
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There is a crucial difference. Some groups i.e. right wing, redpill, will proactively say that the extremists and trolls don't represent the core of the beliefs. While other groups i.e. left wing, feminists, will only say that the extremists and trolls don't represent the core of the beliefs only after getting significant push back for it ( see: TERFS ) and are otherwise silent. Though, I can see the argument that redpill/right wingers are proactive about denouncing trolls because they are alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:54 AM
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Bruh, even women use literotica to get off. Almost no one masturbates to the ether to satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:48 AM
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I'm actual sex they have to make an effort to turn a woman on. I doubt it. I'm an incel so I have no frame of reference but I suspect men don't try to turn the woman on because -they don't have to-. They are in full "doesn't matter, had sex" territory by the time you give it up to them. And by the time you are dissatisfied with their performance, they are even further into "doesn't matter, had sex" and if you don't like it they will just move on to the next woman to have sex with. You've already…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:37 AM
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>Your data doesn't count, but me having no data at all is valid I love this game /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:33 AM
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and the Redpill claims to magically have them The redpill doesn't claim to "magically" have answers. The redpillers explain the entire sequence of reasoning along the way to the redpill. You don't know much about the redpill. Could you prove me wrong? Steelman the chain of reasoning the redpill operates under, starting from "Women don't seem to be attracted to me as much as other men."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:10 AM
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It's astounding how modern society functions: "humans are flawed" obviously "men are flawed" obviously "women are flawed" misogyny!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:05 AM
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By your logic women should all hate men because of the disproportionate amount of violence that Men (tm) inflict on people weaker than themselves. This would be a valid point if not for men also being responsible for all the security and comforts of civilization that women enjoy. Imagine if there was a group of people who were responsible for a disproportionate amount of violence towards women, except they didn't produce anything. Actually, I don't need to imagine, because that's irrelevant to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:02 AM
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Imagine how absurd it would be to say, "There's more to life than your family's happiness. Just don't have a family and seek happiness elsewhere!" That is effectively what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:59 AM
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Of course, they have to blame the red pill for the state of men. What are they going to do? Blame women? Never going to happen. I can guarantee you that the mainstream is going to find anything and everything to blame except women until the end of time. I would say they are under the mistaken impression that the social contract is gender neutral, but they know it's not because they still expect men to uphold the masculine aspects of the social contract to this day and chastise men who are not. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:39 AM
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These threads with women saying "that thing men want? not important at all" is so tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:05 AM
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Those are the men who are easily having sex, not the ones who are not. "Gee, why are these wealthy people not valuing money as much?!? $20 is $20!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:16 AM
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That doesn't mean you're entitled to safety. America, for example, famously decided that police are not obligated to protect citizens. It's not their job. Now, tell me where the entitlement to safety comes from. Punishing someone after the fact doesn't mean you were entitled to safety. It means they broke the law. See also: most governments can and will execute citizens or won't hold state actors legally liable for harming or killing US citizens in specific circumstances. Or will you say that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:17 PM
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It's appalling that women on PPD don't seem to understand social contracts and realpolitik. They are 'debating' on the level of us saying, "If you don't maintain your vehicle, it will degrade, and you risk crashing the car" and their response is the equivalent of saying, "Are you threatening to crash the car?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:17 AM
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Where in any country's constitution or bill of rights does it say that citizens are entitled to safety? Honest question. But none springs to mind, personally. If I'm right, think about why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:41 AM
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Where in any country's constitution or bill of rights does it say that citizens are entitled to safety? Honest question. But none springs to mind, personally. If I'm right, think about why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:41 AM
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You fundamentally do not understand the argument. Very few men are actually in the position to protect women Because of the mostly male police force and military. I know you'll want to say "there's women in the police force and military!" Women have not been any significant number of the police or military during any serious conflict. You don't "need" the protection of men because men have arranged for society to eradicate almost entirely the dangers from which you would need protection. Similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:34 AM
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The end game is like the mouse utopia experiment Women are aggressive towards men (check) Women regularly engage in infanticide ( check ) Mass anti-social behavior ( check ) Subset of males checking out and engaging in solitary pursuits ( check ) Result: extinction. That assumes nothing changes. It will because some people are still reproducing, and they will reproduce their behaviors and inclination towards reproduction. Those groups tend to be religious and/or sociopolitical regressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:38 AM
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That doesn't matter. They are acquiring and maintaining relationships. They are more successful than anyone who is not. It is, by definition, attractive. Otherwise they would be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:35 AM
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Explain abusive men and how they never seem to have trouble getting relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:23 AM
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Also, to put it bluntly - being kind and good and so on don’t improve your dating odds. What bluepillers don't realize is how much of a smoking gun this is against women. Being kind and good absolutely improves a man's desire to be committed and raise a family with a woman. There's no rational reason why the opposite should be the case. It begs the question about female sexuality. It would be like if we lived in a society that encouraged oral hygiene but that lowered women's attraction towards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:21 AM
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Not really true. I see articles from leftists asking, "Why are men checking out?" Even beyond the west, I can assure you that Japan cares about men checking out ( NEET/Hikikomori). It's similar to South Korea ( not sure what their name for it is) and China ( laying flat ). If anything, it's your view of men checking out is limited in scope, being only concerned with the romantic/sexual aspect and not the economic and social aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:14 AM
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: why do bluepillers constantly spout this stupid thought-terminating cliche For similar reasons people above lower class assume that people are poor because poor people are lazy and not due to external economic factors. To be bluepill means that life worked out for them serendipitously. If it didn't, they wouldn't be bluepilled because they would have had to learn how to do serious problem-solving and critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:15 PM
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Ruining his chances with not just girls but a normal social life in HS, then ending up a under employed or unemployed man in his 20s That's nonsensical. You're putting the cart before the horse. If the blue pill worked, people wouldn't engage in red pill strategies. You wouldn't be here trying to deradicalize young men because -they would already be on your side-. They would listen to the advice society has been infusing them with since birth to have a normal life outcome. But that's not what is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:50 PM
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If it's not real, then why are normies so terrified of it that they are making media like Adolescence and then demanding children watch it to pre-emptively deradicalize them? Are you saying that young men are radicalizing themselves for no reason and making an informed decision to reject a normal life in favor of being bitter angry redpill/blackpill losers? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:51 PM
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You have it backward. Your demand for a source ( implying that common sense is false unless an authority backs it ) is an appeal to authority. Banque de France’s study has several economists/economist professors who support my claim. That's why it's an appeal to authority. Did your source account for the fact that men work longer hours, take fewer vacations, work harder, and work smarter? I'll go even further and say that this gender difference in and of itself would increase male wages because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:04 PM
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That isn’t a study, that’s an opinion article. Now you're making an appeal to authority fallacy. Feel free to refute the 20 point list. Common sense doesn't need to be cited. If you got 100 “likes” a day but it was all women you were unattracted to (completely different political alignment, overweight or underweight, etc.) would you consider any of those women “options”? Yes. You're basically saying that if you don't like any of the 100 flavors offered, the free ice cream isn't a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:06 PM
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Not going to bother arguing about the gender pay gap with a feminist. I looked for a source and it just said the same shit I was saying. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/there-really-is-no-gender-wage-gap-there-is-a-gender-earnings-gap-but-paying-women-well-wont-close-that-gap/ was the first google result and the 20 point list is just common sense. I didn’t include that women are less likely to be the victim of a violent crime because the majority of violence against men is perpetuated by other me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:57 PM
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It's hilarious how the things you put in "male privilege" has been utterly debunked. There's no glass ceiling. There's no pay gap. Men simply work harder, smarter, and more dangerously than women. Might as well say that someone forced to work 80 hours a week has the privilege of being able to work more hours. You have "less likely to experience sexual assault" for men but not "less likely to be a victim of violent crime" for women. I also notice you don't have "has a slew of romantic/sexual opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:19 PM
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It's not just social media. Men are being raised by overwhelming feminine influence. Most school teachers are female. A sizable number of children are the products of single mothers. Even when a father is involved, he might be a milquetoast centrist or liberal who is unaware of how to be attractive to women. No one is getting radicalized solely because seeing radfems on social media. It's getting rejected by female friends; it's seeing who is popular with women; it's getting henpecked or pre-emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:33 PM
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Because women who want an age gap relationship just get one there's no reason to talk about wanting one. For obvious reasons, men talk more about the relationships they want because they can't get them. Do you think Dicaprio is on Reddit talking about how to bang 20-year-olds? He just goes out and does it. Similarly, women talk about "where are the good men" because they can't have them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:33 PM
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Is our plight an April Fools joke to you? We are truly the most oppressed demographic in human history /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:58 PM
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Men want positive qualities in their friends and wives. These positive qualities often overlap between them. Women want qualities different from those of their friends and husbands. Some of these qualities are negative and desirable in a husband but not desirable in a friend. Some positive qualities in a friend are seen as negative if they were a quality in the husband. Women want platonic friendships with men because it's easy for men to have positive qualities. But it's not easy for men to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:35 AM
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You are so close to understanding my point. Also flabbergasting how yall think actual fucking problems They are not "actual fucking problems". What is an "actual fucking problem" is relative. I'm not poor so being poor is not my problem to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:24 PM
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No one’s fault but your own. The government collected my tax money under the threat of violence and using it for whatever purpose they please is "no one's fault by your own?" Men defend deadbeat dads and support financial abortion, pay sexually successful men in cash to help them avoid supporting their children. Some woman somewhere supports rape, I guess that makes women rape apologists, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:02 PM
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Men fundamentally can't "go their own way" as long as the West is under various levels of socialist governance. Explain to me how much we're "going our own way" when a woman with five different baby daddies is collecting food stamps. She is already getting what she wants out of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:10 PM
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Actual problems: -I can't get a girlfriend Not actual problems: -housing costs ( stop being poor ) -income inequality ( stop being incompetent ) -poverty ( stop making bad financial decisions ) -war ( just don't get drafted lmao ) See how easy that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:38 PM
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They aren't. You are having sex when you want it in addition to friendships. It's like asking why you don't feel hungry when you can eat whenever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:15 PM
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Not really. People have no problem accept that men are responsible for most crime. People here wanna bring up that its women filing for divorce and want to completely ignoring adultery statistics show men cheating more and cheating being a major cause of divorce. Where is the data that men cheat overwhelmingly more than women enough to support women initiating divorce overwhelmingly more than men? Also, that evidence needs to be -married men- specifically, not unmarried men otherwise you'll have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:14 PM
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A woman can almost certainly have her sexual needs met by propositioning enough men. A woman can almost certainly have a family if she wants. She can certainly have children if she wants. She is more likely to be able to find a husband if she wants than a man is able to find a wife. Options == opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:47 AM
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Remove all forms of government welfare ( especially the public education system ) and affirmative action hiring. You'll be shocked at how quickly women realize they needed men all along. Women's current sexual behavior is an effect of socializing the costs of their reproductive decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:12 AM
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A man with no friends but wife/girlfriend is usually fine. A man with no wife/girlfriend but friends is usually upset about no wife/gf. Men don't need friends nearly as much if they have a wife and children. But no amount of friends makes up for no wife/gf. Wife aka FAMILY is more important than friends. People downplay it by forgetting that a wife is family. Most people will agree family is more important than friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:59 AM
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Responsibility without authority is slavery. Authority without responsibility is tyranny. Men ultimately have no power over women's reproductive decisions when you include abortion in the calculation. Men have no decision-making power on whether a woman keeps or terminates the child. No authority. So, a man having to pay for a child he didn't want is effectively slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:45 PM
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I've seen it explained as that women seem to be able to just drop a relationship cold turkey and they don't seem to be affected. For example, women will drop a several year long relationship and have a new man the next week. Similarly, icks. Men don't have an equivalent of "I saw a woman doing something innocuous and lost all interest in her, relationship history be damned"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:21 PM
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I can offer a relatively unique incel derived perspective. I feel like sex is such a normal part of the human experience. Nearly every modern story has elements of romance. Even stories trying to present characters as "total losers", those characters STILL have relationships. So to lack sexual experience means you're not human. That's the way the messaging comes across. It doesn't help that in every normie discussion involving incels, people assume the worst about the incel. Sex itself is kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:28 PM
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Good thing words are abstract, so you can say you want "A, B, C, and chemistry". But you're not saying that. You're saying "A, B, and C"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:58 PM
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That means my standards may be A, B, and C but I’m not going to date A, B, and C. That means your standards aren't "A, B, C" but something else. It's like saying a passing score is 70, then turning around and saying, "70 is the bare minimum. I can't believe you did the bare minimum, you do not pass." The passing score is not 70 if you're failing someone when they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:55 PM
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the deviation is much smaller for girls because you’re masking and camouflaging better. I don't think they are better at masking, it's just when women are high functioning autistic it's just considered quirky or cute as opposed to...autistic and offputting in males.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:02 PM
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people suddenly became lazy and autistic about a decade or two ago Do you have evidence for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:25 PM
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The standards are nonsensical because you have a stated standard that isn't their actual action-expressed standard. If you say, "I'm only looking for A, B, and C. Where are all the good men!" Then someone comes along and says, "I have A, B, and C. Date?" then you turn your nose up at them because they did not also have D, E, and F, then you were lying about looking for only A, B, and C. The one lacking reading comprehension is you. This is basic reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:47 PM
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Why do you think anyone cares about how attractive they come across to random people on the internet they are not trying to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:47 PM
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It's a direct result of the government providing services historically only provided by close family members. Now, women are interacting with strangers en masse with the assurance that the strangers are unlikely to be a physical threat. "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:38 PM
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You can't know someone's internet activity when you meet them in person unless they reveal that information to you. This is common sense. Otherwise, society would not need cybercrime divisions for law enforcement because everyone would just know what someone's online activities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:34 PM
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How is whining on the internet unattractive? Do you have a special detector for people who whine on the internet? That meme about women being Professor X and being blind depending on how attractive the man is, is apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:26 PM
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No one is mad at women for having standards. Men are mad because women have nonsensical standards which they'll throw away for bad men with (to men) obvious red flags, but then lie about what the standards are to other men i.e. I meet all the standards you just stipulated. But you still say no when I ask you on a date. That means there are more standards you failed to enumerate. Why did you lie by omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:21 PM
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There is no conspiracy; they aren't broken. Men just can't accept that women are not attracted to most men, and as an individual didn't make the cut. There is no algorithm rigged against you; you're just not as attractive as you think and aren't getting the attention you think you deserve. They aren't deliberately keeping women away from you to try to get you to pay; you're just not attractive enough and women aren't interested. All these copes with dating apps are sad. The most obvious solution…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:24 PM
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That's like saying, "We are discussing the minimal standards for how to construct a building. Stop talking about the laws and building codes; we already assume those are met." BPers being intellectually honest challenge: Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:11 AM
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The women on PPD are always saying, "personality and confidence is more important than looks...if I'm already sexually attractived" Because they don't seem to understand what a standard is. OP doesn't either. Also, OP is another person who doesn't understand. No one gives a fuck about your anecdote. We care about the statistics. It's like saying, "never giving up is more important" when someone tells you that gambling is a losing proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:20 PM
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A lack of experience in romantic relationships is not "no experience with women." Believe me, incels "experience" women all the damned time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:00 PM
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There are men who take no for an answer- women are just not attracted to those men. There is no choosing better when they’re all like that. Because the men who do are either invisible or asexual to you. because no one has ever held them accountable for their bullshit. We tried, it's not our fault women find affirmative consent a complete turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:20 PM
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So you're saying you told them, in no uncertain terms, "no I'm not doing a threesome" and they still kept bringing it up? You need to choose better lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:53 PM
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I think it's just a dumb joke along the lines of "Unlimited Breadsticks? Ok I'll have 100". How many of them have seriously try to set up a threesome? Just asking is not significant. People tell more offensive race based jokes in interracial relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:04 PM
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I think the reason most men want a bisexual female partner is the potential for a the woman bringing another woman into the bedroom however unrealistic this may be. It's not that deep. Arguably even an unsubstantiated and made up stereotype based on a dumb low brow joke. It's because men don't see women as sexual competition, and you don't have to worry an angry ex coming and ruining your life with her. A female ex can't come back and knock your gf up while she pretends its yours. No risk of pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:50 PM
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I'm gonna say it's because women have been conditioned since we were little into having internalized misogyny. Wow, that is fucking amazing. You manage to turn androphobia and homophobia into actually being misogyny. Feminists are fucking magicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:43 PM
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. Women faint and fawn over men when are good with kids There are arguments that is not what is happening. It's not because those men are "good with kids" but because men with kids are preselected. Preselection is another thing that women find attractive in and of itself rather than because it has a correlation with positive attributes. to the point women pretend that any man at the park or grocery is an exceptionally “good dad” I've been at parks and grocery stores, and I've never been hit on i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:41 PM
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Clearly not true due to: Single motherhood exploding as women acquired more freedom of choice. Abortion exploding as women acquired more freedom of choice. Women pretend to care about children in order to virtue signal or for their own benefit ( public education reduces the burden of childraising on women, welfare and food stamps doesn't go directly to children it often goes through a woman first. ) It explains why men are so much more likely to be deadbeat dads, many will straight up abandon th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:13 PM
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The difference is that men aren't trying to get slashfics or trashy romance novels banned, unlike women trying to get all sorts of nerd culture or male targetted porn censored or banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:38 PM
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Unwanted sexual attention is nearly always rude and unpleasant. I've been hit on gay coworkers, and never once have I felt like I needed to make a scene or ruin their life over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:27 PM
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No one believes "women only go for a-holes". The contentious belief is that women are attracted to a-holes specifically because they are attracted to the a-hole traits. To clarify, it means that women aren't attracted to a-holes because of a correlation between being an a-hole and other positive traits, but that the trait of being an a-hole is in and of itself attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:33 PM
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Males have less of a right to bodily integrity than women do in America. Last I checked, female circumcision was illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:18 PM
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Because women have generally established themselves to be unreliable judges of character, so your perception can't be trusted when you say "most rapists look like normal people". Women treat innocuous socially awkward men as more of a risk than the men with clear red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:30 PM
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What people post on the internet, especially a debate forum, has little to no correlation with how they behave in real life. If what you were alluding to was true, I and most redpillers wouldn't even be able to hold down a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:26 PM
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Many (I would probably say most) of us are aware from personal experience that predatory men exist, and most of us have seen that they tend to look pretty much exactly like the other men. This is hard to believe as women seem to be completely blind to red flags when they are attracted to a man, and will make up red flags when they are not. "predatory men look exactly like other men" sounds like "average looking man" which plays into the thought that women have an instinctual disgust for average …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:46 PM
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It's the same vein as "money doesn't make you happy" arguments. They are deflecting or too dumb to understand that more options means it's more likely that some options will make you happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:18 PM
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You're right inceldom is waaay worse because the homeless have tons of support and help to the point that most homeless are because they are either too mentally ill, drug addicted, or because they want to be homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 08:46 PM
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Nah that's bullshit. Most men are not toxic evil monsters who are going to hurt and kill women. Arguably, it is not even going to make a woman's life worse ( other than her neuroticism, which causes her to make her life worse as a reaction to him being in her life ). Men are in a desert. Women are in a grocery store, but it doesn't stock Fiji.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:42 PM
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And if I was starving, homeless, jobless, etc it would be a "me issue" and a "me problem" to deal with. Your arbitrary assignment of empathy does not inspire others to empathize with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:36 PM
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Interestingly, women treat virginity as more of a red flag than known bad dating history. They treat male virgins like it's low reviews instead of no reviews. But they'll give guys with "low reviews" a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:01 PM
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Not getting your dick wet Is very difficult to handle as a human being, that's why religions that call for celibacy acknowledge how difficult it is and don't even expect every believer to be able to endure it. And that's voluntary celibacy. Now imagine how awful involuntary celibacy is. It doesn't turn men into buddhas; it turns them into demons. It's easy to say "not getting your dick wet is no big deal" but when's the last time you've not hate any romantic relationship with women for a decade …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:27 PM
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I don't know why you think it's funny. It's normal for the have-nots to be envious and seethe at the haves. Do you laugh at homeless people too? Because the homeless are "just jealous" they don't have Teslas?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:46 PM
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The complaining is because a combination of women having ridiculously high standards (if a man is not in the top 1% of looks he has to put in heraculean effort to qualify himself) but then make exceptions for things that really shouldn't be ( i.e. boyfriend doesn't wash his ass), then claim the bar is in hell, resulting in retarded advice like "take more showers" and "have you tried wiping your ass?".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:22 AM
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...what? The "Extracting" was in reference to how MEN are considered. Men are only valued for what value can be extracted from MEN. Acquire reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:02 PM
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This is why women don't 'objectify' an attractive man, It's really "interesting" how a man liking a woman for her inherent qualities is "objectifying", but a woman only being attracted to a man for what he can do for her is somehow not. It's like insisting someone liking an art piece is a low brow utilitarian compared to someone who prefers a toolbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:25 PM
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No, sweeping statements about demographics are fine, it's just what you posted specifically is dumb. Men are more likely to help women even if it means putting himself in danger significantly more often than women are to help men if it means putting herself in danger. There are men who won't help women, that doesn't make the above false. There are women who would help men. That doesn't make the above false. The problem with your statement is you're claiming GENERALLY men do not love women becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:07 PM
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"Bad people exist therefore no good people exist." Jesus Christ, read what you're writing before clicking submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:59 PM
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Every man loves himself unconditionally. And that's basically it. This has to be projection, but this is very obviously not true. Who kills themselves more?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:50 PM
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Just because he uses her for her body doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate her other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 03:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with being valued for your vagina. It's a whole lot better than being valued for nothing at all other than what value can be extracted from you. At least sex can be enjoyable for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:27 PM
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I did and it was a dumb argument. "Women are not allowed to register for the draft" does not negate that it is compulsory for men and not for women. Bad things MAYBE happening to women during a war does not negate men being forced to fight in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:20 PM
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Woman have always had equal responsibilities to men Trivial to prove wrong: military draft. You've just been yapping this entire thread just to yap. You've clearly run out of reasonable things to say so now you scrape the bottom of the barrel by spouting blatantly wrong things. Step away from the keyboard, for your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:04 PM
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Women don't need to be toxic and cruel for men to feel resentful of their selfish, narcissistic, and hypergamous behavior. No need to say that women are being bad to justify men's resentment of women. Feeling resentful over unfairness and deprivation even when the other subjects haven't done anything "wrong" is normal and people need to stop pretending only evil people feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:55 PM
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Supply, demand, exchange of good and/or services. How is that not a market? There's no silver bullet, and it's certainly not making anything and everything piously immitate freemarket capitalism. It's funny you bring this up because the sexual revolution was basically a free-market capitalist revolution in the sexual market. Historically, people had a diminished capacity, enforced by the state and religious authorities, about who was allowed to have sex and on what terms. Now people are free to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:21 PM
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I stopped reading about halfway through, but it sounded like you expected to be able to put the relationship on a pause and resume it whenever you felt like it. He then learned that if you were truly passionate about him, you wouldn't have done all that bs and would have moved in and married ASAP. You LITERALLY put your job as a higher priority than your relationship with him, and then you act shocked when he re-evaluates the relationship? If I was married to this man and he divorced me, I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:43 PM
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I was thinking about this earlier today about how fucked up it is that there are normal men who are incels. Once you accept the premise of a "sexual market" it's completely deranged to think about. The poorest Chinese beggars still got married and had children. India has an entire "untouchable" caste. Those untouchables -still- got married and have children. How fucked up is it that the sexual marketplace is so out of whack that there are non-deformed non-disabled non-mentally ill men are seeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:12 PM
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Men ignore-to-resent unattractive women for existing. See: ceaseless unsolicited critique and complaints of blue hair, short hair, facial piercings, overweight and obesity, small breasts, flat asses, motherhood, tattoos, mom jeans, makeup… Wait until you see how men talk to men. It's the same way. More instances of a woman so used to being privileged than when a man talks to them like a man it feels like oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:36 PM
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Because men despise unattractive women, older women, and unavailable women. Men don't despise those women, they are simply regarded almost at the level of a stranger male; mostly indifference. You confuse this as being despised because you're so used to the privilege of being a fertile and available woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:31 PM
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even when those hormones are desperately needed to regulate heavy bleeding and debilitating pain from half a dozen common menstrual disorders. "even when [a bunch of shit that is not anyone else's problem]" See, you're doing it right here. Women can't help themselves. Quick to demand everyone has to help you when it's -your- problem. But the all subsidize dick pills. Yes, including federal and state subsidized health insurance. Infertile old buzzards get Viagra and Cialis for pennies so shut the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:27 PM
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I believe the majority of men are quite angry that their reign over women has ended and many men are now forced to compromise and share responsibilities. It's crazy that you believe this despite all the privileges and subsidies that women receive. Men are angry because men are still obligated to provide what women want out of men, while any obligations women had towards men are being voided or downplayed. The most quintessential example is women cry out "my body my choice" but then turn around a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:14 PM
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Depends on how far you're willing to stretch the definition of choice; In modern western society, a woman can decide not to personally associate with men, while a man has no choice but to subsidize women. So are women choosing to not associate with men because that is their freedom? Or are they only able to make that decision due to sociopolitical dynamics dictating that she can get everything she wants out of men in an impersonal manner. For example, a single mother doesn't "need" a father or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:02 PM
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In LTRs with men, I’ve felt a bit more “interchangeable” and that they were mostly choosing me for basic reasons vs knowing me on a deeper level. I wonder if men being forced to play a "numbers game" to have any results in dating causes this. They don't particularly care about you, because for them you were just attempt #1084 that happened to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:15 PM
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Patriarchy means that society defaults to the supremacy and primacy of men. Maybe it's because, at least when it comes to acquiring wealth and influence, men are better than women. You don't go into sports and cry that women can't compete with men; the reasons are blatant. To believe that people are magically equal in mental faculties is pure ideology. Where are the female Musks, Bezos' and Zuckerbergs? What, exactly, is preventing a woman from creating a useful and popular digital application o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 03:14 PM
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They are not understood. Otherwise there wouldn't be entire memeplexes about "feminine mystique" or "what do women want ( not even women can answer this )"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:29 PM
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The main problem with nice guys is their use of ' covert contracts'. That is where you do something with the expectation of reward without ever informing the other person e.g. helping themmove house then expecting a date. That's not a problem with men. That's a problem with women thinking it's normal that men will do hours of effort of manual labor with no reciprocation or payout. The other annoying thing is that they are so passive- they don't flirt or build sexual tension or scope out feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:16 PM
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Wanting to have sex doesn't make you a bad person. Being upset you can't have sex doesn't make you a bad person. Being upset that a bad person has better life outcomes than yourself does not make you a bad person. Doing good things because you expect reciprocation, rewards, or benefits does not make someone a bad person. Only doing bad things makes you a bad person. Goodness for goodness' sake is -saintly-, not a prerequisite to being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:36 AM
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>wearing something is not the same as commenting something. They are remarkably similar, being that you are exposing others to stimuli involuntarily on the basis of bodily autonomy and freedom. The only reason to think otherwise is that you believe you should be able to do whatever you want with your body, but others should not be allowed to do whatever they want with their body ( their mouth and speech is part of their body )
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:03 PM
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Women love to exaggerate what it's like to be seen as a non-person. You demanding what other people are allowed to think, say, or look at is more dehumanizing than someone ogling at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:57 PM
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Unless a man is so physically attractive that women sexualize him, a man must sexualize women he wants to date. Otherwise, she will treat him like an asexual blob and then act shocked and betrayed when the human being that is man does indeed have a libido, and he wants to fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:44 PM
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More evidence of the disparity between how easy it is for women and how hard it is for men dating. Female OP can advocate for something retarded like this because it doesn't meaningfully affect her chances at forming a relationship. Meanwhile, any man with a modicum of social sense will viscerally cringe at the idea of whipping out a consent app during a date because he knows how that would go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:40 PM
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it is mutually exclusive to being a good person. Substantiate this. Why is wanting sex bad, how does it make you a bad person? Jesus Christ at his death was not reciprocated. One friend sold him out and gis best friend denied him. Based on your rationale, his whipping the moneylenders prevents him from ever being considered a good person. Or is ONLY sex-related desires invalidating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:59 PM
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Way too many women on here act as if expecting some level of reciprocation, reward, or quality of life is mutually exclusive with being a good person. By their standards not even Jesus Christ himself was a good person. Not a single good person has ever walked this earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:09 PM
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Men don't want women dressing in a way that advertises her as being on the sexual market, whatever that means for the culture. There's a reason many cultures dictate that women dress differently when she is unmarried vs married. The answer is obvious; look at how men dressed women in "the patriarchy" vs how women dress themselves post-feminism .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:04 AM
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>That's the most ignorant statement about women I've ever read or heard Sharing men across time counts too. Women engage in preselection, men do not. No relationship history is a red flag to women, but a green flag or neutral to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:05 PM
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>Most women are not fine with sharing men either. Not sure where you get that idea. Sharing men across time counts too. Women engage in preselection, men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:04 PM
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>So of course women will pick out the top guys. Men would do that too if they had such a vast array of people to choose from. Hot take: Men -would not- do this if we had a vast array of people to choose from. Men instinctually do not want to raise families with promiscuous women. So, while men would -want- to pick the most attractive women, men would see the most attractive women have too much competition/body counts and set their sights lower. Not all men are just out to get their rocks off, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:27 PM
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Dating is fundamentally an external locus of control because it requires -another person- to accept you. You can do nothing wrong, and that still doesn't force -another person- to accept you romantically. You can do everything wrong and still get another person to accept you romantically. It is the quintessential external locus of control. Most other things have a better correlation between effort and results.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:22 PM
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If they were called creepy, they were acting creepy #BelieveAllWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:22 PM
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Creepy is charming when it's an attractive man. Confidence is arrogance when it's an unattractive man. It's all so tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:20 PM
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This doesn't account for men who have had a very brief relationship or paid-to-play out of desperation. I'm 31 non-virgin, but only because of escorts. Another one of my friends my age hasn't had a girlfriend in a decade, and that's not because he wasn't trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:05 AM
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Losing your virginity "late" is far better than with the wrong person Let me guess, you are female? When I met this guy on a dating app who showed me affection, I thought, “maybe I should just get it over with.” You only have this opinion because virginity doesn't devalue you as a person. Men and women are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:03 AM
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Why do you think a man can only want hookups OR a relationship? This can be reduced to "man just wants intimacy," You reframe this as "man just wants sex," so you don't look like an evil cunt for shaming men for wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:37 PM
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There is a huge difference between "how nefarious guys can be" and "anyone with bad outcomes gets what they deserve." So we’re really trying to pretend only attractive men can be assholes, got it. Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:15 PM
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You don't know what the Just World fallacy is. The just world fallacy is that whatever outcomes someone has, they deserve it. In this case, it's the belief that if a person has no options, it is because they are a bad person ( the World is Just in that women are avoiding a bad man, punishing the bad man for being bad ) The belief that an unattractive guy with no options will be virtuous to make up for it is something different, not really a fallacy. Wishful thinking, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:11 PM
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There’s a reason the person has no options Just World fallacy Having no options doesnt mean youre grateful when you get an option. But it is more likely they will appreciate being given a chance when no one else gave them one Will claim he wants a relationship because he cant get hookups. Just making shit up Even if he doesnt pump and dump, he clearly doesnt like the woman and is only tolerating her because she fucks him. Assuming the worst Similar to 1, as soon as he THINKS he can do better he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:37 PM
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Bro they are no, at least not in western society. No one is telling unmarried childless woman to "woman up", get married, and have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:06 AM
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It is astounding how women seem to so unerringly detect the duplicitous nature of "nice guys" no matter how well deeply it is hidden ( indeed, a man is not truly nice if he is not unconditionally and unwaveringly nice in any and all circumstances! The fibbing fiends!), but then turn around and complain about how men with red flags other men can clearly detect are masterclass manipulators. Women don't see anything strange about this, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:11 PM
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So the onus isn’t on the person who is a bad choice to be better If they were able to be convinced to be better they wouldn't be bad in the first place. This is the same moronic reasoning as gun control. Gun control doesn't stop criminals from having guns, it just makes having a gun for law abiding citizens more difficult. Likewise, adding all these dumb rules to courtship isn't going to make the bad men obey them or be better, it just makes it more difficult for the guys following the rules. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:39 PM
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I've had friends of both genders. I'm still dateless at 30. Seem's like being able to be friends has little to do with being sexually attractive. This argument is just "your personality is the problem" from a different lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:19 PM
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Personality doesn't matter much. Otherwise, you don't have a way to explain the phenomenon where a man has no problem making friends at work/school, but mysteriously, not a single woman wants a relationship with him. And before you say, "They aren't your friends," I'd say them wanting to spend time outside of work with you even well after you stopped working together counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:37 PM
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The easiest and most visible signs of a degenerate personality are prostitute use and porn use This is outright misandrist, considering the vast majority of men use porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:08 PM
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Everyone does this. It's normal internet behavior. If you think it's a specific demographic of people doing this, you are dumb and blind. Everyone thinks they are correct; hardly anyone can be convinced that they are wrong. I guarantee you that every time you think you won with a "solid argument," there are dozens of people who didn't respond because they think you're an idiot not worth engaging with at all. But unlike the redpill, it's apparent that the bluepillers are trash at steelmanning the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:01 PM
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It's not necessarily true that attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, but an unattractive man understands the concept of luck and investment when he"make's it". If you only manage 1 relationship by the time you're 30 years old, you're going to take it a lot more seriously than if it's your 100th.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:47 PM
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You have no way of knowing this. You just made it up. How often do you come across people like this in real life to come to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:10 PM
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"well-traveled" and "adventurous" are just codes for high maintenance and high body count. I'd rather take the homebody so I know that when we take a vacation, it's because we're extremely bored and not just because she needs social media attention and to waste money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:53 PM
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You can't judge someone based on their internet behavior. You thought he was creepy because he was ugly. You're projecting his irl behavior based on how you perceive his looks and his online posts. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:22 PM
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It's hilarious how you conclude that heterosexuality isn't sustainable despite it existing for billions of years. As opposed to saying that feminism, equality, or modern western society isn't sustainable, which has only really existed for a couple of decades. People already understand that the concept of "rights" isn't entirely sacrosanct, and I feel that as the quality of life worsens, people won't demand so many rights. Especially when some of those rights aren't theirs to take advantage of bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:50 PM
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Those people are venerated precisely because it is abnormal and difficult ( arguably impossible, if you consider all the sex scandals) if you have a normal human psychological profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:39 PM
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It's not. I think you're just declaring it is without substantiating. If you live in a climate you're adapted to, not having a shelter won't kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:35 PM
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shelter isn't a need every poster kvetching about sex not being a need always keep slipping up like this. why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:31 PM
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You just debunked yourself... Under your reasoning shelter and clothing aren't a need either. Otherwise you could say hazmat suits are a need because some people decided they liked living in irradiated spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:21 PM
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Solitary confinement causes psychosis and suicide and is considered torture. Sounds like they should learn to be happy with their loneliness. No I'm saying scientifically no sex will not kill you but solitary confinement will and isolation which is self solitary can also lead to suicide. If they have to choose to kill themselves then that means that it doesn't kill them, or they wouldn't need to kill themselves. Sex is an action between two or more people. That activity isn't necessary to surviv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:07 PM
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You keep saying OP is 'explicitly' separating need from entitlement, but that doesn’t change how people hear and interpret it. It means they are ignoring what OP is saying and arguing against a strawman. plenty of people, across all ideologies, push back against this framing because it has historically been used to justify entitlement. Such as? Hard mode: No mention of fascism, socialism, or communism. but the reality is that this rhetoric has led to entitlement before, and that’s why people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:53 PM
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Dangerously based take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:41 PM
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The root of suffering is desire. Just stop desiring things, and you won't suffer. In pain? Just stop desiring to be not in pain. It's really that simple. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:33 PM
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It’s not ‘projection’—it’s a recognition of how language shapes expectations. OP proves you wrong. It is literally projecting- you're assuming because YOU believe that need directly leads to other people being obligated to provide, that it is a universal belief. You are projecting your own beliefs and use of language onto OP, despite OP being explicit with their use of language. OP is explicitly saying "I am not saying X, and X is a different subject" and a bunch of responders are responding as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:01 PM
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Isolation will kill you. Proofs? Not having sex isn't the same as not having brain stimulation. Now you're arbitrarily deciding which sources of mental health "really" matter, enough to be a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:53 PM
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You’ll literally die from exposure without it. This isn't true. Depends on the environment. If you don't want to die of exposure, just move to a better climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:51 PM
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Who is the authority on needs, and why are so many people in this thread confident they are an authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:48 PM
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No that would eventually kill you. Which is because of its isolation. For sure to suicide. Women will really say this shit, then immediately turn around and say sex isn't a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:43 PM
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Nah, you don't need clothing or shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:27 PM
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Calling sex a "need" in this context often comes with the implication that society or others are obligated to provide it. No, that's just you projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:24 PM
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lol so now you’re defending hate speech "hate" speech is valid speech. The concept is mere justification for thought termination, wrongthink, and censorship. Excessive hate rhetoric correlates with propensity for violent actions and actual violent actions. How is this a controversial statement? Not really. Gamers and incels may do a lot of hate speech but do less violence in real life than other demographics. You're trying to conflate hate speech with actual violence and then use that to claim t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:32 AM
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My issue is with the compulsion for vitriol, violence, and violative ways. Why do you think "hate speech" is anywhere near as bad as actual violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:20 PM
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You literally use the group that has sex slaves as your example. So yes, the implication is there, rather blatantly That was more of an example that social regression in the post-modern era is not only possible but is already happening, not that it radical islam is the only way society could regress. Stop being disingenuous. It clearly shows their birth rate has been going down every single year. The % annual change is clearly trending upwards, towards positive. It is getting less bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:19 PM
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It also inspires and leads to IRL violence perpetrated by boys/men in a way that the women pipeline does not. Can you post evidence of this incel to violence pipeline? The demographic of incels also just so happens to overlap with the least violent demographic. Or is this another instance of "any loserish looking man who commits violence is an incel, regardless of his actual sexual history"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:09 PM
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The girls who wear turtle necks and long skirts, the girls who exercise modesty, are effectively invisible to the male sexual eye. Well, that's completely wrong, so it's a moot point. Clothing doesn't make women invisible to men unless the clothing makes it impossible to determine her features.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:44 PM
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So rape? (Edit: it's telling you all jump to this) It's more telling that women immediately jump to rape instead of any of the slew of historical examples that lead to higher birth rates without rape. Yes, Russia is known for caring about what the world thinks of them/s Powers care about geopolitics. They haven't seen a birth rate increase since the Taliban have retaken it. Their rate continues to go down. They haven't seen a birth rate increase since the Taliban have retaken it. Their rate cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:43 PM
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The difference is those countries would be willing to force higher birth rates, and the reason they don't is fear of Western liberal democracies raining hellfire on them if they try it right now. The entire point of OPs argument is that these Western countries will have severely diminished capacities for global egalitarian policy enforcement as the population collapses. See: ISIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:53 PM
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OP fundamentally misunderstands what a Madonna/Whore complex is. It's not "I want to have sex with lots of women but then I want my wife to not be the town bike" It's "I cannot be romantically attracted to a woman while also seeing her as a sexual being" and the inevitable conflict resulting from the fact that a woman can be a sexual being without being a whore, which most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:18 PM
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Yep. Women don't realize that by creating overbearing Byzantine rules, they are selecting the men who disregard the rules then they think that's what men are like because the men following the rules are invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:42 PM
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Because too many men have less than a 1% chance of success, and even that can be attributed to a rounding error. What's the actual reason you think it's fine for men to ask out dozens, hundreds, or women? The dating market is so fucked even warm approaches have single-digit success rates for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:32 PM
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I have seen too many success stories coming out of TRP (and men who are not part of TRP) that I think it's inaccurate to say dating does not follow that trend That's because the failures get censored, banned, and told they are invalid, not having tried hard enough or lying about the effort they put in. PPD itself bans black pill "rhetoric" and "woe-is-me" (all posts relating to 'I tried hard and failed, this sucks!' falls under) Confirmation bias, simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:20 AM
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Civilization is about humans getting out from underneath the boot of nature. It seems like the consequences of sexual liberation are predictable, and it's no accident that every major civilization has warned against promiscuity and adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:16 AM
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The alternative is shitposting and radicalizing propaganda. Notice how you're posting here on PPD. Notice how you're even aware of redpill, manosphere, MGTOW, incels, blackpill. It's not happy or satisfied men who are creating this content.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:15 AM
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Nothing hurts empathy more than understanding why someone is doing something wrong and knowing they will do it anyway despite you telling them why it's a bad idea. I think you're confusing "not understanding" with not acknowledging someone's emotional state as a valid reason to make a bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:41 PM
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Generalizing is necessary otherwise debate is utterly pointless because there's always going to be an exception when it comes to human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:05 PM
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Yes. I was specifically referring to the socioeconomic conditions leading to rise of Hitler. Birth rates at historical lows Loneliness epidemic. Single mother epidemic. Marriage at historical lows. Divorce at historical heights. Incel and redpill schools of thought breaching the mainstream ( not that mainstream agrees, but that the mainstream feels the need to acknowledge it at all meaning it is popular enough for mainstream to be aware of it ) Any one of these conditions sure it could be dismis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:10 PM
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This guy would be in Germany in 1930 and say, "Nothing is happening, stop complaining. Anyone who thinks another war like the one we just had is on the horizon are just losers upset they are poor." It is very obvious there is something going on, when you have incel and redpill terms being mentioned in mainstream media. Are fertility rates crashing everywhere? Nothing is going on; people are still getting along, so stop noticing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:39 PM
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It is a gendered issue. Both genders do it, but one gender does it in an absolutely insane way. Men will take a risk, and when the negative consequences happen, they acknowledge they took a risk, and the L. They will acknowledge that they shouldn't have taken the risk. If women take a risk, they will blame other human elements involved. They don't acknowledge they took a risk; they blame the other humans involved for the negative consequences. Women will also be neurotic about the risk level of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:31 PM
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We already have this communal-childcare It's called the public education system and welfare more open partnering Single mothers stay dating. Baby mommas. The difference is that as the population falls, socialist policies will be less affordable as the tax base gets poorer, dumber, and smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:16 AM
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I was going to explain, but then I decided you get what you deserve. You might as well complain that traffic signs are threatening you with a car accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:58 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit A. This reads like you want women to be accountable for the actions of men. No. Men want women to engage in less risky behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:01 AM
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Many women do not take precautions in their behavior, and many other women defend those women, so it calls into question women's ability to engage in precautionary behavior. Night clubs are only popular because so many women feel comfortable dressing skimpily and getting drunk in the presence of many unknown men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:58 AM
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Good job; this discussion is specifically not about you. It's about the women who make bad decisions and then are surprised when bad actors take advantage. This isn't about people making reasonable decisions and bad things happen anyway. Again, women seem to have trouble comprehending personal accountability because if you did, you wouldn't have even responded. You would have known this isn't about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:57 AM
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Enough women do not that it calls their take responsibility for themselves into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:55 AM
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Accountability for modern women is strictly a legalist or social construct. If she's not breaking any written rules from an authority figure, then as far as she is concerned, she has no responsibility over any outcomes resulting from her actions. A man knows; talk shit get hit. No amount of government will change this fact of human nature. Men conduct themselves accordingly. A woman believes that because she is not allowed to be hit because of words, she is free to say whatever she wants, and an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:45 AM
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There was a good post on 4chan about this. It was about a man saying that he doesn't want to get hit by a car, so he takes precautions not to get hit; it doesn't matter that, as a pedestrian, he had the right of way. He didn't want to get hit by a car, so he stopped crosses when a reckless driver passed. A nearby woman was confused about why he stopped because they had the right of way, and if he got hit, he could sue the driver. He explained to her, be that as it may, for him to be able to sue …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:33 AM
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We're living in the end stages of mouse utopia. Less interdependency means fewer bonds form. Fewer bonds result in more transactional relationships. Sexual dynamics is already highly asymmetrical as a baseline, so few transactional relationships form because men have less to offer to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:10 PM
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That’s why its just a minority of men The numbers don't look good once you take older people who grew up in a completely different social environment out of the equation Nice guys and manosphere guys dont want to be a regular guy. They want to be the attractive loser/asshole who barely does anything look pretty and get women to fawn over them so he can treat them like shit. lol ok, I've seen more manosphere talking heads advocate for strong monogamous relationships ( well, they would if it wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:20 PM
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It's amazing how mods approved this thread. I wonder if a "men are the superior gender" thread would pass muster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:49 AM
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Nah this is bs. You just get called arrogant if you're unattractive and assertive or confident. There's no escaping the horns effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:34 AM
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When we are honest, men don't listen. lol if listening to women was working, men would do it. If listening but only "when we are honest" worked, men would generally still be doing it, because it would work, then other men would see it was working, then copy that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:15 AM
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Finally, the reason why many women don't care is because for many, if not most men, it's just a Motte-and-Bailey for sex and relationships Believing sex and relationships are important for mental health shouldn't be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:46 AM
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Yes. Women get enough coddling. Low value men don't get enough coddling. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:30 AM
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This is the most clear-cut case of projection. Also I don't know if I need to tell you those people would call you pathetic and probably beat you Uh-huh, traditional and conservative societies would take more offense at men lamenting how unfaithful and promiscuous modern women are than the unfaithful and promiscuous women. I call this projection because you are literally incapable of understanding how people with a different culture would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:23 AM
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It's really interesting how easily a man can convert friendship with a woman into a romantic relationship, while women seem to deny the possibility as a general thing. Methinks all the dialogue around this subject is just a bunch of kvetching from women because it makes them look bad. Objectively speaking, why -wouldn't- you want to marry and have children with your best friend in life? I'd even go as far as to say the only reason men aren't doing it already is because men aren't homosexual, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:35 PM
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The problem you have is you perceive any analysis of societal issues causing loneliness and involving the state of women with it, has to be a misogynistic point of view. They do this because they know, on a subconscious level, it is women's fault, but the current social norms dictate you're not allowed to say women as a class are doing anything wrong. Hell, you're scarcely allowed to criticize single mothers, baby mommas, or women exploiting welfare systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:26 PM
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No I said they would understand how fucked up it would be if they never had a husband/wife, never had their children, and had no hope of having either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:17 PM
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They'd probably understand because, despite the absolute hellish shit they go through, they still have husbands, wives, and children that give them a reason to power through it. How do you think they would feel about young women being promiscuous and unwilling to marry men of their caste or have children? ( rhetorical question: I'd wager you're incapable of that kind of abstract thinking and will project your own beliefs ) I'd suspect they'd feel a lot stronger about that than about the gainfull…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:16 PM
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If you understand, you would address the issue with the nuance and care of a starving people's economic problem (i.e., starving is terrible and something must be done, but you can't just force other people to give them food, but what happens when no one wants to give them food? ) Typically, the response is akin to "durr, just stop feeling hungry!" No understanding at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:33 PM
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Uh-huh, and how many of those women are virgins? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:31 PM
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Your biggest mistake in this post is thinking such a mindset is reasoned or rational. My conscious brain isn't thinking, "I need sex, and I am angry I'm not getting it," until my subconscious brain has already given me that feeling, and my conscious is only trying to understand that feeling and how to resolve it. A starving person isn't thinking "all those overweight people sure are unhealthy, sucks to be them" they are thinking "Why do they get to have so much food and I do not"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:28 PM
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>This kind of argument seems to come up every so often, and it really just boils down to a fairly simple threat: if women don’t do what men want, then men will force them to anyways. This is such a stupid mindset to have. "If you keep slapping the bear, it will eventually get annoyed and probably maul you" you: "Are you threatening me?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:19 AM
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Total bullshit premise. It requires at least two people for a relationship to exist. Someone can be lonely and fail to form social bonds through no fault. A fuck off with the infinite self-improvement treadmill that treats everything as a personal fault because, theoretically, at an undefined point in the future, they might form a relationship because of it. If everyone refuses to give you a business loan, it could be because you have bad credit. Or...you could be a black person in 50s. And it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:32 PM
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Nope. No one owes anyone anything. Amazing how when you point out the logical conclusion of "no one owes anyone anything" suddenly the person who said it reels back and goes, "w-well you still owe me the things I enjoy from you"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:24 PM
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I wouldn't count someone as a "late virgin" unless they are at least in their 30s. The resentment truly comes in when you go through the "it's my fault, I got to improve" only to end up exactly where you started years later: zero dates, zero experience, same gross matches and bots on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:02 PM
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See, the issue with "this just can't happen" is that you deliberately ignore the fact that it takes 2 people for a relationship to happen. You already know that people can dictate whatever terms they please, so how is it impossible that a man happens only to meet women who decide he doesn't meet their standards? It's statistically unlikely, not impossible. And humans exist in large enough numbers the "unlikely" will happen with some regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:14 AM
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If a woman won't look past flaws, she just gets a better man. lmao I must have missed the all time high marriage and childbirth rates
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:49 AM
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Damn it's crazy seeing you backpedal on what is a need or not based on what you, personally, value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:30 PM
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It’s like people making a conscious effort to give it the least charitable framing possible. Welcome to anything to do with male sexuality for the past several decades. Male sexuality has to be evil or bad; otherwise, women will have to think about how they rejected men who wanted to create a family with her to have shallow sex with men who didn't see that quality in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:28 PM
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There are some men that are in that 60% that simply don’t have realistic expectations and don’t have the resilience to continue their efforts in the face of repeated failures. What do you mean by "realistic" expectations? The de-facto "whatever your outcome you have you by definition deserve it"? Their resilience gets sapped because they are engaging in their own version of Apex Fallacy. Does an in-shape, gainfully employed man "deserve" an obese single mother simply because that's the only demo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:39 AM
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What people dont accept is being forced to continue said pregnancy when abortion exists Infanticide has always existed. You're not "forced" to continue pregnancy. It is a consequence of your actions just as much as someone betting their life savings is "forced" to pay off their debts, and they can't just "abort" their debt just because they lost the gamble. So what about people who dont want children? Don't have sex. From what I hear on PPD sex isn't that big a deal, so it should be so easy to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:25 PM
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A: Pregnancy is a possible consequence of sex. Women should only be having sex if they accept the possible consequences of sex. Informed consent is important. Society has decided if you don't understand the consequences of sex, you cannot accept it and, therefore, cannot consent. This is why minors cannot consent to sex. If you are not willing to accept the possible consequences of sex, you cannot consent to sex and should not be having sex. B: Abortion is murder. Murdering babies to get out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:48 PM
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Only bad people complain. Exquisite trolling there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:19 PM
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As a bad person I can do what ever the fuck I want Based. And same. All my female friends through the decades must have just been able to detect my awful personality. I wonder why they wanted to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:01 PM
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"shitty personality" ah yes the frustrated emotional venting taking place anonymously on the internet that is indicative of a shitty personality, because only bad people vent about being sexual losers ( because the non-losers have no reason to vent about being sexual losers )
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:58 PM
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Just from the rhetoric I always assumed it was a “yea and you made me that way” sort of identification. I'm an incel; this is accurate for a lot of us. No one is born deciding to give up on life and happiness. Like bruh a caste system was made, put us in the bottom, then spit on us for being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:53 PM
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Why? Men are reacting to women's instinctual disgust of men. Why should I care? When people hate things, bad things happen. If the hate is easily preventable, it's in your best interest to do so. So you’re justifying bigotry, and you think that's gonna garner sympathy? Women justify bigotry against men all the time in the name of protecting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:20 PM
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Kids in high school aren't "dressing like whores" lol lmao, even
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:36 PM
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Bro, you just disagreed with what is basically, "Don't wear a whores uniform if you don't want to be treated like a whore" with a side helping of "some places you're not even allowed to wear a whores uniform." You act like dress codes don't exist for men. Dress codes exist to maintain a minimum level of decorum and formality. Why do you have to dress like a whore? Why does it pain you that there are circumstances where it is not allowed? Something tells me you're not ass hurt about men having to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:14 PM
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Ask not why redpillers coincidentally also hate women but ask what it is about men's lives that causes such an overlap between hatred of women and the redpill. People don't hate things for zero reason. Most people don't hate things that have only ever done good by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:03 PM
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I still blame women for your plight. When people see a crippled animal, there are enough people that want to see that animal taken care of and cured. There's an entire industry around doing just that. No one's fault, no one's responsibility, yet they get assisted anyways out of the kindness of human's hearts. But when people see a socially crippled man, suddenly he's on his own, and it's entirely his fault for being crippled, as if it doesn't require at least 2 people for socializing to occur. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:00 PM
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Girls and women are taught from birth that their bodies cause boys and men’s bad behavior, There must be secret sisterhood meetings where women constantly shit on themselves because I've never seen this happen in a public space. The closest thing is Dave Chappelle's "Don't wear a whores uniform if you don't want to be treated like a whore", and even that idea has had severe pushback in the past decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:53 PM
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"My penis isn't wet" IS a real problem. Enough men don't get their penises wet; they start seeking radical solutions and alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:41 PM
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How is emotional abuse real lmao just stop caring about their opinion lol stop taking them seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:39 PM
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You might as well be a starving person you don't need food as much as you think you do. You have a total misunderstanding of the suffering involved. When I see an attractive woman, I get depressed. There's no rational reason for it. I'm not "overthinking" and bringing myself down. It's an immediate, subconscious, visceral reaction to a total lack of intimacy. We may not need women, but my reptilian hindbrain sure damn thinks it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:33 PM
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It astounds me how abusive men can so easily enter relationships, even when known to be abusive. But women can somehow detect an incel miles away and knows to avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:54 PM
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Abusive men are more sexually successful on average. That gives reason to believe that not only can women tell, but they are actively choosing abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:52 PM
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I brought up "between sexual partners" to add context for the reason for blame. I'm saying, she chose him. Her fault for choosing a dog that bites.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:50 PM
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With all the moral culpability that is assigned to sexless males, people have made it seem like women are good at detecting evil men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:30 PM
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In that, most abuse happens between sexual partners. Which means the woman chooses that man. This means that the woman is rewarding that kind of behavior the man engages in with reproductive opportunity. Women -could- choose cowards barely capable of violence ( the various flighty cowardly prey species on the planet is evidence of this ), but they do not. Why do they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:02 PM
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Women aren’t responsible for men’s illegal or antisocial behavior. Women contribute to antisocial behavior by rewarded the personality archetypes disposed to those behaviors with sex and reproduction. Unsuccessful make way more noise towards threats of “social uprising” Lol, "threats". Most -actual- violence from men to women is by someone the woman voluntarily associated with. Most violence towards women is domestic violence from a sexual partner. “Nice guys” are entirely responsible for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:00 PM
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Blame is not zero-sum. In addition, if two different people say mutually exclusive statements, it's not hypocrisy it's two different people having different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:34 PM
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Still both. They could remove abusers from the gene pool, but that doesn't mean the abusers aren't responsible for abusing. I have way spicier takes than that lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:32 PM
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Why do so many bluepillers engage in false dichotomies Both are to blame; man for leaving and woman for not choosing better No one is to blame, but the baby mama is suspect because she has priors He is to blame Comparing not wanting money taken from you to not being able to murder babies, lmfao Men get blamed for being sexless losers on PPD all the time, you even participate in this yourself. Too often "creepy" is just code word for man she doesn't like being a sexual being. You are deliberately…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:00 PM
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Maybe it's because our internet circles, but I see far more ridicule and vitriol directed toward male "disney adults" than the female ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:12 AM
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It's not a double standard. The things that make a woman a "loser" are not the same things that make a male a loser. What causes a woman to be looked on is fundamentally adult ( manipulation, promiscuity, adultery ) What causes a man to be looked down on is often related to arrested development.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:10 AM
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Mewing was a whole meme on social media, guy. Your demographic and culture isn't the only one that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:17 PM
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Nah. Everything is "it's just terminally online dorks" until suddenly it isn't. See: pua, incels, redpill, Tate, looksmaxxing, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:08 PM
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Which means if you're a single man, you're either not genuinely trying to find a relationship, or there's something very wrong with how you currently present to society. Are women sex machines or humans? Do you believe female sexual choice is also based on morality? Women aren't machines you put in moral virtue until sex falls out. The idea is that if women are not choosing a man, he has something wrong with him, is sexist both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:12 PM
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"internalization" is just a dumb unfalsifiable concept for when someone from a politically protected class has opinions about the demographic they belong to that are politically incorrect. God forbid anyone ( except white men ) believe the demographic they belong to has flaws. I'm black btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:02 PM
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They just want to make the woman feel bad for not picking supreme gentlemen like them. Yep They believe the survivors are responsible because they are “rewarding” the abusers. True. Women could end crime within a few generations by collectively refusing to reproduce with criminals. Because these RP guys don’t care about the next generation of abusers. This is wrong. We don't care about abusers in the context of protecting women. We care a lot about the consequences of evil men reproducing ( more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:37 AM
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Nah. Modern society has made independence and consent sacrosanct. This necessarily means that you are responsible for your choices. No one else can be held accountable for a woman choosing to be with an abusive man other than herself. This is completely separate from the abuser being accountable for being abusive. It's not an either-or. Both are true. You mentioned in another post you didn't mention gender; cut the bullshit. You know full damn well when men make bad choices, people are quick to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:28 AM
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Nope. It's because women don't want to have kids. Authority = responsibility. If no one can force women to have children, and women dictate whether they have children on their terms it's 100% their responsibility for not having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:46 PM
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It's all bullshit, just an excuse to hate low value men. Friendzoned men being angry is a result of feminist indoctrination. Allow me to illustrate how it works from the perspective of The Friendzoned: Serendipity puts me into an interaction with a woman Being a good non-sexist man, I don't immediately assign a woman value based on how much I want to have sex with her I interact with the woman I enjoy her company Now that I enjoy her company, I decide if her appearance is enough to detract from …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:37 PM
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This isn't entirely true. Very often, intra-group violence will be blamed on external causes when the perpetrator is a politically protected class. You've never heard of "internalized racism" or "internalized misogyny"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:20 PM
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I don't think female sexuality is that complicated; it's just that everyone wants to avoid the elephant in the room that women evaluate men sexually on a completely separate axis from the man's likability. A man would have no problem having sex and marrying his female best friend. The more he enjoys her non-sexual aspects the more he is willing to compromise on her deficient sexual aspects. The assumption is that she is -somewhere- on his sexual spectrum, and she can improve her position on it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:20 PM
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What I wrote is related to sexuality. Women don't have an instinctual fear of men because they are afraid men will punch them in the jaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:49 PM
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When a woman sees a man and assumes the worst of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:56 PM
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If the "male gaze" is leery and lusty. "female gaze", at least as most men will experience and is similarly offensive, is disgust and unprovoked hostility
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:05 PM
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It's just as reasonable to ask your partner to stop wasting time and money on "pointless bullshit" ( conveniently defined by whoever is asking ). That is, not much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:46 PM
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I literally made a thread about this and the mods didn't approve it, lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:08 AM
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This is high-key misandry. Just assume the worst of men and that women only got married because they had to rather than they had a different priority ( to get married and have a family )
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:55 AM
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Nothing is “demanded” of men or women. Riiiight, there is no demand for men to keep their sexuality to themselves, while women have license to flaunt and exploit their sexuality. There is no double standard of sexuality. There is no such thing when a man and women are drunk and they have sex, the man is a rapist, and the woman is a victim. A man without gainful employment is a loser. A woman without gainful employment can be anything from just "finding herself" to a stay-at-home mother. I've nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:23 PM
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Precisely what I said, "Anything, specifically because they are women." Even childbirth isn't demanded of women, it all gets generalized to "young people need to have more children" as if young men have any particular say in regards to reproduction. Can you name anything demanded of women based on womanhood that is also politically correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:54 PM
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Men and women are not the same. Ergo, their issues are not the same. Ergo, men have different mental health needs than women. The most basic demonstration of this is that women don't have mental illnesses as a result of total deprivation of intimacy because it's nearly impossible for a woman to be involuntarily deprived of intimacy. There are no solutions in the current zeitgeist because demanding things of women because they are specifically women is verboten.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:39 PM
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They failed as conventionally attractive men becouse they are pathetic losers Why do you believe this dichotomy? Are women machines that you put in "Winner coins" in until sex falls out? You don't think it's possible for a man not to have any women attracted to him without him doing anything "wrong"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:01 PM
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To be happy when you are alone means that you have the capacity to enjoy your own company and do things without a partner or even friends and find happiness and fulfillment in those things. It also means that you do not crave a relationship just because you are painfully lonely and miserable. This isn't a binary; what's the timeline on this? There's a huge difference between feeling frustrated and lonely because you haven't talked to friends/partner in a day vs a week vs a month vs months vs yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:07 AM
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That is garbage advice. You might as well say, "The cure for suffering? Stop desiring anything". It's very frustrating seeing people who haven't ever endured forced loneliness talking about how to be happy alone. To anyone who says being happy alone solves loneliness, I challenge you not to speak to anyone outside of a professional/familial relationship for at least 3 years. And even then, it would be a choice, not something imposed on you. Anyone who says "learn to be happy alone" has never bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 04:18 AM
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Women have a tendency to say "ew, collecting data is icky" but then also turn around and say "you don't have any proof for what you're saying". I think op just has a subconscious desire to exploit plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:12 AM
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Hilarious seeing women say "looks aren't everything" then turning around and saying Gosling is "just average". You'll never understand how hilarious that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:35 PM
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Bruh, you completely missed the point. "Problem" in the critical thinking sense, not the negative connotation sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:16 AM
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Yep. I only really internalized the red pill in my late 20s, and by then, it was too late for me. Before then, I was black pilled since my mid-teens and had given up. Now I am black pilled again, the agepill. The best thing to do would be to redpill boys as soon as possible to be the best they can be while they still have peers who sincerely care about them. Once you're an adult, people rapidly stop caring about you unless you're exceptional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:07 AM
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What is categorically bad about RP, is how incredibly dehumanising it is to women; women are treated as hyper-simplistic objects It's almost like simplifying a complex problem is the best way to start solving it. And in this case, the complex problem is female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:00 AM
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Stop with the just-world fallacy bullshit. I have had all of those, and it doesn't matter if you aren't being exposed to enough women. And while it's easy enough to say "just meet more women", that isn't necessarily a given. I never cold approach women because I know I'm not attractive enough for it to work. And what do you fucking know, that lack of attractiveness also translates to warm approaching. If it was my personality, why have I had no trouble having female friends? I make an average -h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:49 AM
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I think Lilith is broken; she has a reasonable take again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:31 PM
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It's fucked up how women find male being (yes, a man's sexuality is part of his being) so disgusting that they will regard most men with disgust unless he either: a) Acts as an asexual agent b) She's also sexually attracted to him. "B-but there's more to relationships than sex! Platonic and familial relationships exist!" The issue with that line of thought is that it isn't claimed because of the exaltation of agape love but is merely a rhetorical tool to distract, divert, and gaslight the fact w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:00 AM
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While we are equal We are not equal. "Equality under the law" is an entirely different concept that idiots conflate with equality in nature. People need to realize that these are not the same. I'd even go as far as to say that conflating the latter with the former is actively dangerous because it leads to dumb situations like a female firefighter who literally can't perform job duties, and women in the military having different fitness standards than men but the same responsibilities and authori…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:51 PM
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It's not a contradiction. We think because of our brains. Sometimes our brains doesn't give a fuck what we think and does stuff on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:40 PM
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Each and every man who claims that they assumed women would settle for any nice guy no matter how unattractive he is because “sexual attraction isn’t important to women I sure hope you're not saying that men weren't told that being a good, nice person is attractive. Because we were. No one was told, "Be nice because sexual attraction isn't important to women." we were told, "Be nice because being nice is sexually attractive to women."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:34 PM
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It's really simple: most male chimps will fuck most female chimps. Most female chimps only want to fuck the alpha. As a result the males compete to determine who is the alpha. Humans didn't evolve much past this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:56 PM
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What is meant is that women can get the things that men want out of life with very little personal effort. A decent job, a decent home, a family, someone who loves them. Bias for females gets them the education and job. The previous builds on to get a decent home; sometimes, a woman doesn't need anything at all but to marry a wealthy enough man. And not even that, if your husband is military. Having children or not is the woman's choice. Men naturally love women; just don't be obnoxious or catty…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:01 PM
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Hot take: ER was a gentleman who got radicalized because acting like a gentleman got him zero relationship results. That is exactly what was stated in the comment thread. while being racist at black men Being racist doesn't make you a bad person. To claim otherwise would mean you believe that good people didn't exist until AT LEAST 1980 AD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:37 PM
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...women build their perceptions of men based on how less than 1% of the male population behaves How a minority behaves IS part of how that class behaves. It's generally not women going around raping men. It's not merely a coincidence; it's due to biological conditions, so of course people notice these differences in inclinations that result in a behavioral, difference
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:14 AM
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Numerous studies in sociology (e.g., Christakis & Fowler, 2011) demonstrate that alienated individuals are far more susceptible to extreme ideologies, not because they are brainwashed, but because they seek validation and belonging This doesn't tell the complete story. I don't think it's that alienated men seek validation and belonging and thus subscribe to extremist ideologies. It's more like they have no social capital to lose, so they don't dismiss extremist arguments out of hand but sincerel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:52 PM
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I hope none of the men saying they'd choose A would ever complain about false rape accusations ruining lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:44 PM
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Women have always hunted. Women have always fought. Not significant. Not 100% of oil underwater welders are men, but no one it is saying it's anything approaching an egalitarian occupation. Might as well say humans are transexual because a minority of humans are. But "women's work" wasn't about protecting women There is at least some level of it being about protecting women. You just have to look into the reason why modern militaries don't let women serve as front line infantry. Men do stupid th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:49 PM
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It's not equivalent. Dismissing weather as a legitimate threat is stupid. Doing so dismisses the effort people have put into preventing the harm that weather causes. No one dismisses bad men as a legitimate threat, but some good men protect everyone from all kinds of dangers. It's like saying, "We don't need a military. Everyone in the military sucks," when the military is the reason bad men aren't roving around in bandit gangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:38 PM
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Deeply insulting to anyone who has ever had a loved one die from exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:27 PM
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Why is intimacy different? There’s a difference between a SERVICE, which is the commodification of those examples you used, and the BODY ITSELF becoming the commodity. Nah, this is just hand-wringing because sex work makes people feel uncomfortable. Someone using someone else's body to produce goods and services isn't fundamentally different from using someone else's body for sexual pleasure. If that’s how we look at it, then we shouldn’t ever question other unethical market systems such as chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:15 PM
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Kind =/= meek. Just because you're nice doesn't mean you stay silent when you see injustice or unfairness. Just because you're a nice person doesn't mean you're stoic. And nothing is more unjust than evil men doing better than good men. That -includes- relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:37 PM
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I had this scenario in mind while making this topic. According to the women on PPD, if push came to shove, then the women could have performed just as well as the men did. They just don't, because...? I'm still trying to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:30 PM
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The protection aspect is strange women aren't getting attacked daily Because of a powerful government, military, and police. most men don't know how to fight You don't need to know how to fight to be dangerous. Someone who is armed, accosting someone unarmed, doesn't need to know how to fight to have an overwhelming advantage. Women dont want realtionships and they don't necessarily need The argument is that women don't want or need relationships because the things a relationship with a man woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:28 PM
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think they are hyper-independent really aren't; they're just hyper-interdependent without realizing it. Thank you, that is my point. Feminists act as if they do not need men. There aren't nearly as many men stating that they do not need women. Now I'll grant you there are far more men saying they don't need -anybody-, but those men are dismissed as antisocial fools, unlike the feminists claiming that they don't need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:23 PM
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what are you actually proposing? There are artificial and natural limitations preventing men from fulfilling their socioeconomic demands. On the other hand, many women's demands are fulfilled with varying voluntary and involuntary supply levels. That latter is contributing to the former. This topic is important to acknowledge because the feminist position is leading to extremism on the part of the men who are being made to fulfill women's demands. In contrast, no complementary expectation is mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:20 PM
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The idea of mine work being a male-only thing is super Western and Modern. The idea that there is "men's work" and "women's work" is neither Western nor modern. Just because there are exceptions here and there does not make it true that every civilization independently concluded that there is work appropriate for men that is not appropriate for women, and vice versa. Why would that be the case? Were all men everywhere, throughout time, simply being sexist? because you are cherry picking the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:04 PM
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This is all to say without the benefit of choice women are perfectly capable at filling in traditionally male roles Were the women mining the raw materials and constructing the factories? Saying that women can operate the entire gamut of the supply chain is an entirely different statement than saying that women can operate a factory or transportation. My point is that men have. We wouldn't have civilization if men didn't. But there hasn't been a point in history where women have. There is no com…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:52 PM
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But "profit" is essentially another way to say "producing social value" I don't disagree, but the original point being contended was that only people who don't produce value ( so using your reasoning, only people who don't produce profit ) take credit for being of value to society. Obviously bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:45 PM
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It's not weird at all; it's basic economics. It's like saying security is kind of weird because you're commodifying safety. Or saying health insurance is weird because you're commodifying health. It's just economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:34 PM
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That doesnt mean we wouldnt do them if neccesary. How do you know you could do the job effectively en masse if you've never done the job en masse? You are only assuming it is within women's capabilities. Like I already mentioned, women actually had to do mens jobs during wars. Working in a factory is not a "men's jobs". I'd even go as far as to say farm work is not a "man job". Doing hard labor and fighting wars are "men's jobs", and women don't do that even in wartime. The timespan of women act…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:29 PM
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And exactly what fields count as "directly responsible for creating and maintaining society"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:18 PM
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There are more things in the world that are dangerous besides men. This only supports my point in OP: women have been so coddled in society they forget that wildlife and nature are truly dangerous just by themselves. I doubt women could protect themselves well because, historically, they did not. It's men who went hunting, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:14 PM
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What if asia didnt exist anymore? Do you think we‘d all walk around naked cause we didnt have anyone to produce our clothes? The global economy would certainly collapse, and we've seen what it looks like historically when large swathes of the population die and the economy collapses. People aren't walking around naked, but they are wearing the same clothing for extended periods of time because it's all they have. Its absolutely crazy to me that men think just because some industries are dominate…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:49 PM
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I don't understand why people are so desperate to push this idea that men have never really cooked or cleaned anything That's not what is being said. What is being said is there is a very clear concept that some things are "women's work" and other things are "men's work", and that "men's work" is more readily available as a service. . Women basically only didn't do manual labour when they weren't permitted, but otherwise it was pretty common for her to do the labour of the farm while the baby wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:42 PM
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It is not a coincidence that financial compensation is positively correlated with sexual access. What you are describing is already effectively happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:32 PM
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I don't think they can be so cleanly separated. Sexual supply and demand interfaces with broader economic supply and demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:29 PM
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You named a bunch of shit that a woman will do for a specific man and then name societal tasks from men The economy was not always so specialized. The entire concept of having a police force is a relatively modern invention. People have equal abilities to support themselves and make their way independently through the world now. People have equal -opporunity- to support themselves, not ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:28 PM
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Because treating all men as bad harms the good men. and likely something women participated in as well The difference being argued is that women don't -need- to participate, and men could have and have done it well enough on their own. The same can't be said for women nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:26 PM
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Define "productive member of society".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:24 PM
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Is Lilith a mods troll alt account or something? What the fuck are these threads getting approved for her shitposts? How the fuck is Remember, being a good person should be seen as rewarding in itself. If youre only nice in hopes of treats, youre not really nice. Keep in mind, there's a difference between being a good person and being a gulliable pushover Not inducing rhetoric? How the fuck are my effort posts getting rejected by mods, but all these baseless assertions getting approved? Mods kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:10 PM
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There is overwhelming evidence that dark triad traits lead to increased sexual success. There is little reason to believe that "Nice Guys" only pretend to be nice. And even if they were, such manipulative behavior ought to increase their sexual success. In addition, nice guys are called assholes for a specific reason and not for general behavior. It is unlikely nice guys are assholes, rather than a specific event leading to a specific response. It's absurd to assert that someone who got into a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:06 PM
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She's not really a justification for Patriarchy any more than an alcoholic is a justification for Prohibition or a shooting justification for gun control. Most people aren't mentally ill and/or stupid and can partake responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:49 PM
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Relationshipless losers who sometimes say mean things about women on the internet are a more significant threat to women than the men assaulting women. You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:20 PM
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If responding to hate "radicalizes men" then they were never good to begin with It's how you respond that is radicalizing. The response is often a combination of disgusting and ridiculous. A lot of the time, it feels like the women on here are either operating on moon logic or simply don't know statistics and blathering about their feelings or propaganda. The most glaring one is "incels are violent," despite incels being less violent than probably any group you can think of. Usually conflating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:02 PM
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Incels are not dangerous. A woman is SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to be assaulted by a non-virgin male, -especially- going by per capita. Most assaults on women are by a boyfriend/husband. Being a misogynist does not make a sex-having relationship having male an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:27 PM
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I'll let you in on an incel secret: places where women post such as PPD and twoX do more to radicalize incels than the echochambers. Do you want to know why? What women post about themselves removes all doubt. We aren't stupid; we recognize what an echo chamber is. Incels in the incel echochamber typically don't hurt anyone but ourselves. But women in their echo chambers often admit to callously harming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:01 PM
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I don't think it will. The only thing that will resolve incel hate towards women is to make the incel not feel genetically invalidated. ( Well, an alternative is to make the incel accepting of their perceived genetic invalidity ) The reasoning is really simple: "I did everything I should have, but there's not a single woman that thinks I'm worth reproducing with. Something is wrong." The answer to that is typically blaming the incel, which justifies the hatred the incel feels, or agreeing with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:52 PM
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Women confuse lack of sympathy for lack of empathy. I can understand why some bad people do bad things or make bad decisions, but that doesn't mean I feel sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:43 PM
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How old are they? How long have they been together?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:26 PM
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I already have friends. I can't have sex with friends. I can't plan a future with friends. I can't get married, have children, and have grandchildren with friends. I can't buy a house with friends ( I can, but it would be stupid to do ). I can't get tax breaks for having friends. I can't get power of attorney with friends ( I can, but it would be weird) Next thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:02 PM
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I've had multiple threads denied for "inducing rhetoric," but somehow Lilith threads keep getting approved. Something tells me the mods are biased...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:19 PM
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DISCLAIMER: when I say friends, I'm talking about REAL FRIENDS. Not I'm-pretending-to-be-friends to get in her pants This is such a tired-out and untrue statement that I'm starting to be convinced this is a projection. There is no reason not to believe a man when he says he wasn't friends with her just to have sex with her. There is no reason to believe someone can't want to have sex and be friends or more. There is no reason to not believe a man when he says he fell in love with his female frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:09 PM
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The biggest issue is because the father is still in the picture and can come back at any time, and there's already precedent of her choosing him and assigning him the highest value ( bearing his child )
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:16 PM
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Nobody who's not an incel would not be creeped out by this. That's an amazing argument there. "If you disagree with me that this is bad, you're an incel"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:01 PM
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If invisible women existed, then why do women act like being sexually harassed is a core part of the female experience every woman has experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:58 PM
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I am a lot more worried about my son growing up to be a misogynist than I am worried about him being a victim of “misandry” Whenever a woman says this the first thing you need to ask her is, "is your son circumcised" You'll be astounded how often the answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:10 AM
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You say you don't detect any open misandry anywhere...but you had him circumcised. It's no wonder you don't see any misandry, you're fucking blind. Would you ever have your daughter circumcised?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:07 AM
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This. No shit, he sides with his father. Where did his genetics come from? Evidently -not- from a man who wouldn't hit you. Not saying you deserve it, but you made a choice and he is the product. To believe otherwise would be self-hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:01 AM
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That doesn't necessarily mean they are unrelated, it is highly likely they ARE related. Not every suicide is a dramatic emotional event that has a direct trigger. There are sometimes many factors. If I killed myself right now the root causes would be from more than a decade ago, so I can easily see Norah going through a similar thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:58 AM
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I don't know how this is a debate; it's glaringly apparent feminists have double standards. The women who gave us "beautiful at every size" still discriminate against the men who have similar BMIs. They aren't upset that 'men' don't find them attractive, but that attractive men don't find fat women attractive. It's no surprise these same women would be cunthurt that their pussies are unaesthetic but then turn around and shame men's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:28 PM
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What is this supposed to mean? The only things I can think of is porn acting out rape fantasies (no more "borderline illegal" than a movie murder since it's a fictional crime and just acting) I'm not into it so I haven't noticed, but from what I hear cnc ( consensual non-consent ) porn has been getting removed from major platforms. Something not being literally illegal doesn't stop content from being banned from major platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:23 PM
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You're on the right track but it can't be said enough that the core of the issue of disaffected young men is that young men's problems are their own to solve, but women's problems are societies and men's problems to solve. The blatant privilege flies in the face of the claimed oppression that women face. If a man is struggling, he's an entitled loser to whom no one owes anything. If a woman is struggling, it's because society is sexist, and she needs to be given privileges and opportunities to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:51 PM
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just world fallacy of course it's a bluepiller saying that about romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 AM
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It's not hypocrisy because men and women aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:22 PM
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There's no point in doing these 'tu quoque' with women because they'll just agree and amplify, knowing full well the experience is not even remotely equivalent. "Yes, lonely women do not deserve a man," knowing full well the things that would make most lonely men lonely would not make a woman lonely, and it's comparing apples and oranges. You just make them feel smug and correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:00 AM
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You're either being dishonest or you're blind. If you've ever received money, goods, or services from a non-friend in excess of, say, $20 (yes, this is an arbitrary number), without directly asking for then it's probably because you were a woman and not because they were just that nice of a person. Most men don't receive shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:43 PM
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"Empathy for women", read: "Bend the knee to my feelings and wants, and sideline your own." Women are not machines you put in morality coins in until sex falls out. -> Women do not reward morality with sex There is no correlation ( if anything, there is a negative) between morality and sexual success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:33 PM
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Why? Because we've never observed men bothering other men in public, so clearly it's about getting laid and not just being friendly. Sis...you've never seen hustlers, beggars, or muggers? Men don't bother men with sex because...most men don't want to have sex with men. Also, I've been talked to by male strangers just wanting a friendly conversation while minding my business, waiting in a line, or drinking. I don't know if they were gay or not; it doesn't matter because it never reached the realm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:14 AM
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The red pill would be moral if women found morality sexually attractive. You're saying more about women than about the men who want to appeal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:34 PM
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Bluepillers need to stop conflating what they want to be attractive with what is attractive. Brandon Sanderson is not getting young fertile pussy before he was wealthy and famous. Neither is Terence Tao. Humanity will get more of what reproduces the most. It's the Pookie's and Ray-Ray's reproducing, not Sandersons or Terence's of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:25 PM
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Some people do let homeless people live with them. I'm saying that such a person is likely more empathetic than someone who does not or would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 06:48 PM
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The fact is that there is medical consensus that circumcision has health benefits. There would also be a medical consensus that female circumcision has health benefits if the countries practicing it were a world superpower instead of the gynocentric west. All the same arguments that apply to male circumcision apply to female circumcision when you're not being intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:32 PM
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Basically a "let them eat cake" mindset. Sex is no big deal to you even though you've never gone without it, so for someone with issues with sex, you tell them to just get over it. You are projecting with accusations of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:29 PM
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Do you also believe all people who eat animals lack empathy Empathy is a spectrum, and no one is at the 100% empathetic end. People pick and choose what to be empathetic about. or is that belief just limited to women who won't sleep with sexless men? A woman who refuses to have sex with sexless men is less empathetic than a woman who would. Sex is a big deal to actually do, but it's no big deal to go without And you're surprised I'm saying you have an obvious unempathetic streak?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:25 AM
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You're confusing entitlement with idealism. Ideally, people would stop enslaving and slaughtering animals and eat lab-grown meat. That doesn't mean I feel like I am entitled to everyone else being a vegan. Ideally, women would have sex with sexless men. If sex was no big deal, then you wouldn't recoil at this idea. And as you have demonstrated sex is a big deal, then it is a problem that there are sexless men around. There are women who could solve this problem, but they don't. That calls those …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:58 AM
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You arbitrarily decided what was worth feeling empathetic about in a way that happens to be self-serving. That's why it casts doubt on your self-declared empathy. Lmfao having sex with sexless men js like volunteering to help the homeless? No, I'm saying that your so called "empathy" clearly has limitations to it, like how someone who refused to help the homeless might be empathetic but clearly not enough to help the homeless. I'm saying you may have a non-zero level of empathy, but there is obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:55 AM
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I'll say it right here. Women should have empathy and have sex with sexless men or their "empathy" should be called into question just as much as someone who claims to be empathetic but refused ever to volunteer, donate, or give money to the homeless. It's possible they really are empathetic but I'm still going to wonder what is up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:05 AM
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"Hey guys, I'm a little frustrated about stuff that's not related to [thing we're doing together], so if I get a bit snappish, it's not you guys, it's me. I'll try to manage it, but if it gets the better of me, just give me a moment." Why do you think that's a sign of emotional intelligence? Emotional intelligence would be not needing to say anything at all because you are in control of yourself to not snap at someone at all. Neither do you need to ask to understand someone's emotional state, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:35 PM
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It's hilarious seeing all the female posters say "what do you mean, this sub is just as bad!" It shows how biased women are. I highly doubt an OP that goes to the gist of "all women are whores or potential whores. that's it. That's the thread" would pass muster here. But a woman says, "All men are rapists or potential rapists, keep yourself safe" on that sub and it's just women protecting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:44 PM
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The statistics say that just as many people think embryos have rights. My point was that some people cannot understand that people operate from entirely different premises and argue too far downstream. It doesn't help that some positions on the opposition are often thoughtless and hypocritical. i.e. embryos don't have rights but kill the embryo without the woman's consent and it's murder, pro-life but anti-child welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:36 PM
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If you don't understand the difference between positive and negative rights, you shouldn't talk about freedom. This lack of understanding is also why Abortion is being debated btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:20 PM
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Dying from exposure is not dying from a lack of shelter, it's dying from exposure. Go somewhere else where the weather isn't so extreme. You didn't need the shelter, you needed to get away from the weather. Likewise with sanitation. For lack of healthcare, it's the illness that killed you, not a doctor not being there. I'm pointing out how stupid your argument is. If someone kills themselves from depression because of lack of intimacy, you would say they didn't die from lack of intimacy; therefo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:31 PM
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It is clearly a need. No one dies from a lack of shelter, sanitation, health care, etc, yet people have expectations. Even with exposure, it's not because they didn't have shelter but because they didn't have a climate-controlled environment; indeed, no one is entitled to that. No one is entitled to a house, a roof over their head, etc. If someone's at risk of exposure, it could just be as easily argued that they aren't entitled to anything and they should migrate to a warmer climate. The whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:17 PM
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As long as a certain subset of women are extremely loud but with no pushback, the assumption is that they are representing the greater group they claim to be speaking for. When men say wild off-the-cuff bullshit, there are plenty of men dogpiling him and saying he doesn't speak for all men. For every incel talking negatively about women, there are a dozen more calling the incel a loser who is wrong. And often, the reasoning or excuses that result in the position are denigrated. A man is suicidal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:31 PM
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Men's love is conditional, transactional and fake. Women's love is deep, selfless and consistent. Lmao, this is a projection. Women did not come up with "men and children first." It's not women who are expected, and do, die for the other gender purely on a gender basis. What's the selfish transaction happening when a father dies defending his wife/girlfriend? Or even just generally attempting to protect the peace?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:36 PM
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A man can easily recognize that while they are personally attracted to fat women, they can still parse that most men are not attracted to fat women. They might even shorthand that observation with "men aren't attracted to fat women" because it's obvious it is a generalization. On the other hand, women will say, "Women are [x]," but it doesn't mean all women or even most women. A lot of the time, it's "a minority of women" and "some women" then using that as an argument against a generalization t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:11 PM
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Women's standards are only so high because of the numerous safety nets that socialize the things women desire from men. Women don't have to be careful about who they marry; just get a no-fault divorce. Women don't have to be careful about who they have sex with; just get an abortion. Women don't have to be careful about destitution; all sorts of welfare programs. Women don't have to be careful about childcare; the public education system is effectively daycare and lasts most of the child's life …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:51 AM
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Oh boy we got a "feminism is equality" poster. I'm going to keep a lookout for you arguing with the feminist posters on PPD because they are frequently saying "feminism isn't about equality " to justify the utter lack of feminist action on male issues while feminists opt for increasingly inane causes. Something tells me I won't see it, though. EDIT: Nevermind, you are one of those posters lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:23 AM
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People disagree with you, which is the problem. And while I'm pro-abortion, your argument sounds the same as someone insisting slavery of blacks is ok because they aren't human. You're just playing with definitions to avoid confronting the morality of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:45 PM
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It's more like it's not fair to make someone else pay the consequences for your decisions, and abortion is making the unborn child pay the consequences ( its own life ) the consequence for a woman choosing to have sex without wanting a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:10 PM
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Hot take: rape is an exception for abortion not because "the woman didn't choose to have sex" but because it's important not to reward rapist genes with reproduction. Accountability/responsibility has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:08 PM
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This is an issue of male disposability which has nothing to do with women. lol here comes that quantum patriarchy. Anything that benefits men at the expense of women is patriarchy. Anything that benefits women at the expense of men is also patriarchy. Women have zero input in society until they could vote, of course. Even after they can vote, the influence isn't enough to matter /s Most people help those who they see as needing help. Not true. Statistically, people will assume men don't need hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:47 PM
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Wow, that's strange; I said to measure your relationship history compared to the broader population, and you only mentioned OLD and implied it's all about OLD. Statistics unrelated to OLD show the average number of sexual partners, life milestones, etc. It's not hard to tell. OLD is a way to directly experience your position rather than making assumptions from raw numbers. For example, someone might be unattractive but still have a well above-average body count because they have many transaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:25 PM
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Eh, that's a no from me. I couldn't love an illiterate, unemployed, boring woman. Damn, I guess love didn't exist until the 20th century, and even then only in some wealthy countries. Being unemployed was a privilege. Boring is a personal opinion, I'd wager most people made due regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:19 PM
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Go to dating apps and compare your results to those of other men. More broadly speaking, compare your relationship history to the broader population. Just because SMV can't be mathematically determined doesn't mean you can't surmise a person's league based on their results. For example, I know I have low SMV because every woman I've asked out IRL has said no, and I get very few matches in OLD. I don't need to measure my face proportions to determine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:27 PM
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You are creating your own boogeyman and then crying about it Education doesn't matter, our careers don't matter, our hobbies are useless and boring, women are valued for being attractive and submissive. Your education doesn't matter; a man will love you even if you are illiterate. Your career doesn't matter; a man will love you even if you are unemployed. Your hobbies don't matter; a man will love you regardless of your passion. Imagine saying that a parent doesn't actually love their child beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:19 PM
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...Where do you think concepts like "women and children first" come from if not for valuing women above men? You can say that "men" don't love "women" in the sense that a stranger usually won't directly sacrifice their own physical well-being for the sake of another stranger. But that's also absurd because such a sense of self-sacrifice is a spectrum, and women tend to be privileged on that spectrum compared to men. When people say men love women more than women love men, they aren't only talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:10 PM
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They don’t think that all they were was a live masturbation device . Which is what they were. Chad has zero feelings for them. I think they do know, this is why they cry so much about being sex objects. They want to shame Chad into commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:32 PM
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OP basically made an entire thread to basically humblebrag, and the mods let it pass. Meanwhile, the mods block legitimate threads with effort into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:35 PM
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The amount of times I’ve seen men answer the prompt “the way to my heart is - cooking for me”. That’s really not attractive to most women lmao. Lmao leave it to a woman to think someone answering a question "what would make you love someone" with "they do something nice for me" is unattractive. Seriously, what do you expect them to say? "The way to my heart is spending thousands of dollars on someone else?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:49 PM
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Nope. Men and women are not the same. Men objectively do less "shopping around" than women do. If the gender dynamics on OLD and not IRL were flipped, a sizable number of men would just use it to find a good one to spend the rest of their lives with and then stop using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:20 PM
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That says something very bad about guys in PPD when their own words sound like strawmen. Unless you are quoting actual posts that is the very definition of a strawman lmfao And even then, it would still be intellectually dishonest. It's meaningless to paint every group by the worst shitposter of that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:44 PM
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Happy relationships aren't formed by people pressured into them. It doesn't work today and it damn sure didn't work back then. Are you saying that most people in human history weren't happy? Most of human history is people being forced into relationships by station of birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:46 PM
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Redditors post all the time about how incels are violent despite there being less than a dozen incel mass murderers in the past several decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:29 PM
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"nice guy" is simply a misandrist slur. In every other situation, someone who puts effort into something for benefit isn't treated as some disingenuous evil manipulator. If someone is a philanthropist because it gives them tax breaks and good publicity, hardly anyone says, "You're a fake philanthropist; you only gave money to charity for personal benefit!" And it's immediately countered with "doesn't matter, people were actually helped" "You're only a doctor because it pays well? You're a bad pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:36 PM
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lol not everyone can improve to be above average. Judging from how women rate men, I'd even say most men could not improve to be (online dating) "average" looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:27 AM
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It's incredible how quick women are to say this on here as if, if it weren't for men caring about women's issues that don't affect men then we would be living in a very different society. But when it comes to male issues that don't affect women, suddenly, it's When are people going to just come to terms with the fact that reality is often harsh and disappointing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:21 AM
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Not even remotely the same, the same way a woman upset she can't get pregnant is a completely different discussion than a man upset he can't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:05 AM
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Redpillers and blackpillers should respect the sexual preferences of women instead of getting angry at them for not being picked. What's with this false dichotomy I resent women for not picking me. I don't respect them for it at all. It's not respectable for women to not pick me while they are picking drug dealers, deadbeats, and other criminals. I believe women should have the right to not pick me. This isn't a contradiction. There is nothing shameful about being unchosen by women since that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:00 PM
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It's not society's job to educate or employ people either, but reasonable people generally agree it's a bad thing when someone is uneducated or unemployed and that person doesn't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:12 PM
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If you’re a shut in, socially stunted person now, The social conditions producing shut-in socially stunted people were nonexistent for most of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:04 PM
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single men who are incapable of making even one positive argument for why women should date them. Do you believe that the men complaining about not being able to get dates are worthless human beings? If not, you contradict yourself. Or do you think women engage in transactional relationships and only date men when they can get something out of it that they couldn't get without dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:58 PM
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You and only you are to blame for your circumstances in dating, sorry. Very obviously not true. We live in a society. Literally. No one reasonable would say "You and only you are to blame for your circumstances in employment/education" you libertarian weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:40 PM
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pumping and dumping is not taking away from the pool of relationship candidates. It does take away from the pool of good relationship candidates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:22 PM
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They aren't real. Whenever you go to femcel spaces they always eventually talk about having a boyfriend or an ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:21 PM
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This sub loves to ignore women who are ugly, awkward, or generally undesirable. Because they don't exist. Where is the female equivalent of incel forums? Or are women so much superior to men that being involuntarily single, undesirable, and discriminated against doesn't bother them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:33 AM
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"The treat isn't a reward for pressing the button just because the treat pops out when you press the button" They are clearly referring to reward in a Darwinian sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:31 AM
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You're saying you're slaying genZ women and there's nothing wrong... What about all the genZ men who couldn't have a good relationship because you were pumping and dumping the genZ women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:29 AM
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How do you feel about the housing market? What about unemployment? What about birth rates? An inversed age pyramid could not possibly influence the economy, right? You sure like asserting "everything is fine" when it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:25 AM
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If economics and governance are any indication, a generally harmonious society will never exist. Those with the advantage will constantly press their advantage until it's so oppressive the losers force a system reset, and the cycle repeats. But I think women can't afford a system reset because, for women, this (western liberal democracy) is it. Suppose societies in the future decide that various groups don't deserve equal rights, and they can use the information age to point to the slew of data …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:09 AM
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I went to bars/clubs before I gave up. The only people who talk to me are men. I'm not sure if all of them were gay, but at least some of them were. If I were more attractive, I'd wager some of those approaches would have been women. So when people say that as a man, I have to do the approaching, it just sounds like bullshit because I know some men don't have to, and I was good enough for some men to be willing to approach me. I'd sooner believe that, generally, women just don't like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:23 AM
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We certainly live in a patriarchy We don't. We call it a Monarchy when a monarch rules. We call it a democracy when the people rule. Why call every system in which men rule, and not -because- they are men, a patriarchy? I'd even give it to you that the period where every man could vote, but women could not, a democratic patriarchy, but that hasn't been true for several decades. And even that isn't entirely satisfactory. If we live in a patriarchy, what do you call a system of rule where the rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:26 AM
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Are women sex objects or not? Assuming that if someone cant get laid it is because they are lacking merit, implies that women have robotically sex with those who have merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:16 PM
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Do you have evidence of this happening in first-world countries, and it explicitly being done to female infants and not infants in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:38 PM
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I must be a misogynist because I struggle to think of something positive to say about something specific to women in general. That can't just be reduced to something they are simply born with but a result of their agency as human beings. But judging from a lot of the comments, a lot of men are even worse than I am because the best they can come up with to answer this question isn't even something positive about women but feeling sorry for how women are affected by something. It makes me want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:18 PM
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But majority of you stay dead silent or support the rapists ones. lmfao rape is considered one of the most heinous crimes, moreso than murder sometimes. No one supports rapists. But what we do is not get caught in our feelings and consider if a situation is actually rape or not. If we at least got to see more of you get mad at rapists The state of society is such that the only way this would manifest is the lynching of those accused of rape because you don't consider the belief that rape is one …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:59 PM
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This doesn't happen in civilized countries, and you know it. Women are more valued in the places that matter. If anything, you should be grateful to your countrymen that such barbaric behavior has been so thoroughly stamped out that it's unthinkable in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:50 PM
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It's probably because no one wants to be a statistic. No matter how nice an area you are in, that statistic isn't 0%, and you don't want it to be you, so you take measures to make sure it won't ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:44 PM
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Something else that doesn't seem to be pointed out so far is positive/negative feedback loops. An attractive person will carry themselves with a confident demeanor because they get responses their entire life that makes them confident. An unattractive will carry themselves like a beat dog because they get negative responses their entire life. Even the typical example of an "ugly/fat guy with confidence" example is probably because the person in that example wasn't flat out made to feel worthless…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:41 AM
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Discounting online friendships. I don't have a lot of male friends, and only one is married. The rest are all single for as long as I have known them. One of them was actively trying to be more social and still failed. Only 1 female friend, and she's the wife of one of the male friends. I get along with them but hardly talk to them. They try to reach out, but I usually don't want to spend time with them because we have different interests. I don't have any issue making platonic friendships or ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:22 PM
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Well you would get into shape for your own confidence What confidence if other people don't give you a reason to be confident? You can't be confident about how good you are at boxing if you've never boxed just because you have the theory down. Confidence without results is simply arrogance. It’s not about women it’s about feeling comfortable in your own body being healthy. Why care about being healthy? What's the actual point if you don't really care about living longer? Live longer for what? Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:40 PM
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It's annoying to have to police yourself for eating. There were no tangible benefits to being in shape but a lot of costs ( not being able to eat what you want, having to exercise when you didn't want to, etc )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:32 PM
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I've always lived a sedentary and introverted lifestyle. Without actively counting calories, it's very easy to go over budget. One of my pleasures in life is eating unhealthy food. Without an external motivation to not do that, there's no reason to deny myself happiness. To me, being in shape didn't have any merit in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:29 PM
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There are more mass murderers who have posted on reddit generally, than incel mass murderers who specifically posted on incel subs or forums. It's not actually because of fear of violent radicalization; that's just used as an excuse to ban politically incorrect speech beliefs about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:46 AM
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Of course I know him. He's me. I went from being obese, living with my parents, ungroomed, and making ~30k a year in fast food. I had social hobbies playing D&D every week, sometimes multiple nights. I lost weight to a normal BMI, got in shape, started taking grooming seriously ( I even tried to grow a beard, for fucks sake, the genetics just weren't there), got a new job making ~70k a year, moved out and got an apartment in a nice part of town, and started going to meetups. It took me about 2 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:38 AM
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It is virtuous. It's not because men are desperate and have no standards; it's because men love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:35 PM
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lol redpillers are so full of shit. You've become pathologized by modern society. Improvement is a natural masculine instinct. It's in our DNA to constantly improve, to always be challenged, to perpetually grow! Do you think hunter-gatherers were constantly on the grindset? Did they think, " Hmm, how do I hunt 0.0001% better? How do I make this tool better?" No, most of them just did things simply because it was the way they were taught and they would teach those things to their children. -Some-…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:33 PM
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What makes the journey of self-improvement "difficult" is the challenge of not relapsing back to bad habits on so many levels and keep up the good ones. Loneliness is the biggest factor of relapse. This happened to me. Lost weight, got in shape, went from obese to normal weight. Nobody really cared. I still didn't get any matches on dating apps. So I gave up. Now I'm obese again. If I had gotten a girlfriend, it would have been easier to stay in shape just by virtue of having that critical layer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:22 PM
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So what about all the incels who are capable of changing their unattractive habits? They are actually just secretly evil, and women detect this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:14 PM
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You are a retard. What happened to women not being vending machines? Unless you're an asshole, smelly, or really ugly or fat, you should be able to get laid in high school. "You have to be a bad person to not get sex from women" Aka "If you're a good person then women would have sex with you" Fuck out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:24 PM
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That's real easy to say for a woman who has sex on tap if she wants it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:18 PM
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Don't forget being a Prepper in case society collapses. Wouldn't want to be caught lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:15 PM
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They’re saying to not internalize it and let it ruin your self esteem. Why would being rejected not damage your self esteem? And a "ruined self esteem" is just when this happens enough, That's like saying "don't let being in debt ruin your credit score". That depends on being able to pay the debt. Some people can't...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:35 AM
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You absolutely can. Their argument that is written exists independently whether I read it, and my counter argument may or may not be applicable to what they wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:00 PM
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Such a dumb strawman. What is being argued is that, and the data supports this, is that the number of sexual assaults when porn is available is dwarfed by the number of sexual assaults when porn is banned. *some* men will forcefully acquire sex if they can't watch porn, in far greater numbers than men who will forcefully acquire sex -because- they watched porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:38 PM
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Sis...no one -needs- anything. The worst that happens is they die. /s Sarcasm aside, your own argument defeats itself. You don't -need- a computer or internet to talk about the evils of pornography, yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:30 PM
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Yes. I don't need to read their essay to disagree with someone trying to argue that the sky is brown. At least I'm polite enough to acknowledge I didn't read their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:26 PM
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I don't think it's just the disparity in sexual opportunity, but that it has knock on effects influencing broader dynamics greater than most anything else. There's no getting away from sexual competition. Meanwhile with economic competition you could argue that in certain kinds of human organization ( such as tribal hunter gatherers with no competitive tribes and plentiful food) there's not necessarily any real economic competition. That's not to say that economic competition is irrelevant in ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:20 PM
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Didn't read. Hard disagree. The disparity in sexual opportunity is what leads to lack of connection and empathy. Men watch porn because sex with women isn't as readily available. Sexual satisfaction is prioritized over genuine connections Who are you to demand others value "genuine" connections, whatever the fuck that means, over their own sexual satisfaction? Why should men lock their sexuality in a box? Are women ever going to be expected to lock their lack of sexual attraction to most men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:45 PM
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Americans. Civil war isn't like a chicken pox where you get it once then never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:52 PM
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Toxicity in attractive men can be attractive, the same way people like spicy but not too spicy food. Toxicity in unattractive men is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:01 PM
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Nah. The most important thing to be successful in a social interaction is for -the other party to want it to be successful-. Two people with severe social problems can have a successful social interaction if they are both talking about things they mutually like. Two of the most socially savvy people in the world can have a failed social interaction if they decided they hate each other and refuse to be cooperative. The idea that any 1 party is "responsible" for the outcome of a social interaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:18 PM
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I'm not talking about their sexuality itself, but the habitual lies and misdirection when they make claims about it. It's one thing to say you like hot people. It's another thing to lie about it and claim personality is more important when it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:14 PM
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It's not about arguing to convince women to be attracted to what men want. It's to point out the distasteful qualities of women (toxic femininity) because society decided men aren't allowed to point out the elephant in the room concerning sexual dynamics and female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:27 AM
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It's funny because when men treat women with a similar caution that women treat men ( potential predator who can ruin their life on a whim ), suddenly the cries of misogyny and insecurity come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:20 PM
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The inefficiencies in liberal society brought about by pretending people are equal when they are not, and even going as far as handicapping itself to preserve the illusion of equality means that in the long term it will probably lose to a society that does not handicap itself in such a way. For example, a society where women have no rights but has a 2.5 fertility rate is going to eventually replace a liberal democratic one with a 0.5 one. And since western society is hyper-individualist, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:31 AM
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Obviously not. Without the support of men feminism would never have gotten off the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:45 PM
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But dating, sex, and relationships are not and should not be "fair." Why not? Asking someone to give you their mind, body, and soul is incredibly intimate and vulnerable and they absolutely have the right to refuse for any reason. There are plenty of conventions, mores, and laws that are concerned with what people do that don't affect anyone else or only take place between consenting parties. Personal autonomy is not enough of a justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:11 PM
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Literally just compare number of virgins aged 20-25 in prison then compare number of virgins aged 20-25 earning a STEM degree. Anyone not being dishonest knows what the numbers are going to look like. It's so obvious what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:10 PM
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Why? WHY is it creepy? Why the fuck would you -not- want to be friends with someone you want to have a long term relationship with? Why do you have to wait until you have sex with them to be friends with them, if you want to do both? Normies are actually insane. Society is sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:36 PM
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You are by definition treating him as a threat if you're cautious around him. You're not cautious around rabbits, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:06 PM
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Women and simps complain about generalizations but then turn around and defend women treating all men as predators because some men are predators while saying that treating men as non-predators is not worth the risk of being assaulted. What's it's called where you -know- the general case is counterfactual to your assumption but still assume it anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:00 PM
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Women and simps complain about generalizations but then turn around and defend women treating all men as predators because some men are predators while saying that treating men as non-predators is not worth the risk of being assaulted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:59 PM
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Same. Society has traumatized a sizable number of multiple generations of men into being incapable of projecting desire. But it's ok, because they didn't want those men anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:06 PM
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wtf is this non-reasoning. men find a lot of women attractive, and women seem to be doing just fine. If anything, women finding so few men attractive is the root of the problem, because there is higher demand for a scarcer supply, so when one of them becomes available...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:37 AM
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Red Pillers like to use this as an example of how ALL males have it more difficult than ALL women. Which is clearly not true. No one is saying this in good faith. You made this shit up. At least this thread is good for identifying another feminist troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:07 PM
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So I should just say yes to every man that approaches me because it's mean not to? You completely missed the point. If it wasn't for the disgust response, you wouldn't be asking this question at all. You can kindly reject people Which has nothing to do with -why- you're rejecting someone, or that you rejected them before you had a conscious reason for doing so. What if she already has a boyfriend? Is it still unkind to reject another man's advances? More missing the point. If you really want a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:49 PM
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Finding something pretty and sexy isn't inherently a negative disposition, unlike perceiving something as disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:44 PM
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And no, not being interested in dating a certain man is not being unkind. Women not being interested in dating a certain man absolutely has it's root in being "unkind". The instinctual disgust women have for men, not for any reasoned considerations. That's not to say that the reasoned considerations don't exist, but those don't cross their mind. You wouldn't say the instinct to squash a bug is "not unkind" just because it's usually in the humans best interests to do so and it's nothing personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:02 PM
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The idea the people aren't allowed to rant and vent is stupid. "b-but it's not productive!" don't care. Don't like the content, don't peruse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:48 PM
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Wouldn't be seen as "aliens" if you didn't act like aliens. What else do you call it that socialization dynamics instantly changes as soon as a female enters the group? Even if you want to blame men, the men are doing it -because they want to have sex and it increases their social status by doing so-.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:06 AM
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You're female, so it's not even remotely the same. It was a -choice- for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:10 PM
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Unless you've been a virgin at 27 lmao you have no fucking clue about what you'd "rather" do. Regards, actual 27 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:08 PM
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I swear the women on PPD are borderline braindead. "Attention from being desired for sex isn't a privilege because not all the attention is positive". Being wealthy isn't a privilege because some people will want to steal from you. Being a celebrity isn't a privilege because sometimes you don't want some types of attention. These women are making me a misogynist in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:40 AM
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Ever thought it's because the people who overtly advocate for violence get banned? You don't see people saying violence will happen because those posts are removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:58 AM
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So you aren’t looking at any of the links above? I did, you are wrong, another person pointed this out with evidence that countered yours, and you had no further argument. But it's the "pill poppers" in denial, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:55 AM
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I'm sure in nazi germany most people weren't talking about the death camps over lunch. Must mean they weren't real and even if they were it wasn't a problem and even if it was a problem they deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:47 AM
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lmfao in another comment thread you were posting about how you've already posted evidence for your position. Come the comment thread that you were referring to, you can't even argue your position? Then you get surprised when people don't trust anything you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:40 AM
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Some people live in a bubble...but they are still alive you fool. People have different lived experience to you. Their lived experience isn't invalid. People don't just wake up one day and decide to be bitter asocial incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:37 PM
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Is the woman a virgin? No? Then it's the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:50 PM
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If you read more you would also have seen the "no one is entitled to anything" parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:37 PM
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why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:11 PM
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If there is no gender war, then what is feminism and why did it have 4+ waves?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:05 PM
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The end result is stuff like, "I should oppress weaker people because... why not?" Exactly. The end point of "no one is entitled to anything" is "why the fuck should I be following your rules?" The only reason the social contract works is that adhering to it has less disadvantages than breaking it. Some people will decide that the risk of bodily harm is an acceptable risk to not adhering to an increasingly skewed social contract. Some already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:49 PM
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The problem is people pick cherry pick rights and arbitrarily decide how far those rights extend without any underlying basis. Just whether they like something or not. For example, a lot of people have no problem doing away with freedom of speech as soon as that speech is something they don't like. They endorse bodily autonomy, but suddenly the parents right to choose supersedes the individual when it comes to genital mutilation- but only if the child is male. Right to self defense is diminished…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:43 PM
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In most cases, a man can't know if his attention is desirable until he has already given it at which point if it wasn't desired he is a pest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:22 AM
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People irl can see someone's reddit posting history?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:07 PM
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What’s with all the hysterical hand-wringing and pee-pants fear of a woman with a typical sex drive? Just leave her alone. What do you mean? That's what's happening and leading to observations like OP. If women don't accommodate men in a way that makes it clearly more advantageous than being a sex pest, then the sex pests are the winners who will reproduce. The statistics support this. Most rapists have had consensual sex at some point. Most rape victims knew the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:16 PM
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Men cannot hold this idea and the idea that women gravitate towards drug dealers/losers/freeloaders/criminals simultaneously. Sure we can. Dark Triad men break the rules and are rewarded instead of punished for it. The unattractive man who adheres to decorum never approaches her. Never rewarded. The attractive man who adheres to decorum never approaches her. Never rewarded, The unattractive men who breaks the rules approaches and gets punished. Sometimes rewarded, even. The attractive men who br…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:22 PM
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having a fulfilling relationship is not a right No one is entitled to anything. Enjoy your chattel slavery "b-but that's different!" Why? Because you're not fine with it? Too bad. You're not entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:50 PM
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You cannot know if you're accepting of solitude unless you've actually been isolated. I'd even go as far to say you can't know unless you've been more or less involuntarily isolated. It's just that it's important for men to not put women and relationships up on a pedestal. And this is merely an idea on the path of "desire is the root of suffering". It's not an original idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:36 PM
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Confronting one's fear of solitude =/= acheiving enlightenment. Just dismiss people not liking being in the state of something as "fear". People aren't afraid to be alone. They are already alone and it sucks, which is why they don't want to be alone anymore. I never said anyone is over socialized. You are implying it. I wouldn't buy any stock in sexually frustrated men's revolutionary potential even if I were a gambling man. Why do you think they would organize around sexual frustration as a bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:45 AM
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Food and water aren't needs, because all that happens is you transition to the afterlife without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:10 PM
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The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone. This is such a midwit take. The best move ANYONE can make in ANY circumstance is to be content with their circumstances. If you aren't bothered by anything, then you're not bothered by anything. That is Buddhism whole thing. Of course here in the real world things aren't that simple. It's so absurd that peoples actual responses to men wanting basic things in life that used to be easily acquired, but are no longer possible because …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:05 PM
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When I said "relationships on tap" I wasn't just referring to sex. Because most of those men “on tap” just want to fuck her, not be her friend. Among the men that want to form a relationship with her, some of them will want to be her friend. Just because you have to put in effort to filter men, doesn't men you're not better off than the people with no options at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:31 PM
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Lol. Notice how when a woman says she is lonely, no one says "shut up woman, you can form new relationships on tap". But when a man says he is lonely, suddenly it's "you're not -really- lonely, you just want sex" and "oh, you are really lonely? Try making some friends first" The difference between advice towards men vs advice towards women is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:26 PM
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It's just one of the many deflections normies come up with because if they were straightforward and replied "shut up incel. I don't care about you. no one cares about you. stay invisible and die quietly." you wouldn't engage with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:23 PM
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I'm saying I've done it and couldn't attract any women I was attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:53 PM
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Because if you knew the actual reason you could either work on solutions of get blackpilled and give up. A woman lying about her relationship status doesn't help anyone but herself. A woman telling the man asking her out "you are short/ugly/poor/boring/stinky" is at least sometimes actionable or tells you the problem. Now imagine if every woman responded with vague lies, you'd have no clue what the problem is until stuff like redpill and blackpill goes HERE ARE COMMON DATING PROBLEMS MEN HAVE an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:33 PM
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Men are being held accountable; it is called going to trial and, if found guilty, going to prison. I'm so tired of this society that thinks anything less than being unpersoned and struck from all records isn't being held accountable. Both sides do this shit and it's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:05 PM
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You can't have a polite society if being polite screws you over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:33 PM
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Easy to say "such is life" when you're winning but as soon as people decide to shirk the framework of liberal capitalism suddenly the tears come out about how it's not fair and something needs to be done. Oh you got shot by death by an outlaw for your wife and money? Sucks to suck, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:58 PM
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What's not mentioned often enough is that if your starting point is low enough, self improvement becomes pointless. You put in years worth of effort to get in shape, get your finances in line, etc only to get...landwhales and single moms? No thanks, I'll go back to being fat and eating whatever I want. Onaholes feel better than sex anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:15 PM
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If you don't think there's a difference between a preference for hot people, and hot being a -requirement- for attraction then I don't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:13 PM
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Very interesting you're assigning character flaws to losers when losers are, by definition, determined by 2nd and 3rd parties. None of those traits make someone a loser, the only thing that makes someone a loser is other people deciding someone is a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:14 PM
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There is some nuance that you are deliberately ignoring. On a pure attraction basis, women would rather die alone than be with someone not hot. You might say, "obviously!" but that is not true; men don't work that way. Men would rather be with a below average woman than die alone. Women are willing to have transactional sex; trading sexual access for children, support, and security. I'm assuming that you think that these two different behaviors can be lumped under the same behavior determining t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:00 PM
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Many things are futile but society insists on at least trying anyways. Only when it's something bad that affects men is society so eager to say "oh nothing can be done, lets not even try!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:25 PM
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Can you explain your logic? That is the opposite of sense. If men are more reluctant to seek medical intervention, then the number of diagnosed men should be substantially lower, not higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:43 PM
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is that they do not need social skills at all to succeed in dating, career or life autistic women vs autistic men is the biggest evidence for this. Either "autistic" women are substantially more socially savvy than autistic men for some reason, or social skills are don't really matter for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:40 PM
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Oh no you're not in love with her you were in love at her Oh no you're not in love with or at her, it is the idea of her Oh no what is the degree of difference between your idea of her and what is actually her. Oh no people put on different faces in different contexts, how can you say which one is actually her? Oh no so now we can't distinguish between the multitude of ideas of her, so trying to distinguish if the love is "legitimate" based on proximity to her is futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:57 PM
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How men get their dick wet is part of how society functions. It's incredibly obvious that if the most reliable strategy for having sex was killing people, you'd have a very different society compared to if the best strategy was amount of books written.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:49 PM
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Can you define what the patriarchy is? Can you point to successful non-patriarchal systems? Why do you think patriarchal systems succeeded where non-patriarchal systems failed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:48 PM
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Learning styles are a myth, boys just suck at learning. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:44 PM
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If they weren't qualified, then why friendzone? Why would you have wanted to be friends with them if they are such assholes. In order for this conversation to even happen you'd have to have interacted with them enough for them to have caught feelings to begin with. Queue the kvetching about how they were secretly manipulative assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:37 PM
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Hot take: nice guys are usually justified in lashing out, because they did everything they were "supposed" to do and it's probably not their first time getting rejected/friendzoned for it. There's only so many times you can do an unpaid internship and get told "no, we're not hiring you on. We think you're a good worker but you're not a fit for the company. But you can stay for the unpaid internship tho tee hee" before you lose your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:27 PM
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Many women with "low self esteem" are actually vulnerable narcissists. The women with actually low self esteem are already going to similarly unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:03 AM
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It's not that men are put on a pedestal, it's that the only one who can hold bad men accountable for bad romantic behavior is women. Men have already been telling women to not date dangerous men, about red flags for men, etc. Women don't listen because it's what they are attracted to. So we don't have any sympathy for the women who ignored the warning signs and get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:17 PM
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Do you have anything to back that up other than anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:40 AM
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So you're saying social reasons is the reason they stayed, not necessarily that they dated. And it's self evident that for dating looks are the most important because without looks, no dating happens. With a shitty personality, an attractive enough guy is still given a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:39 AM
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I'd argue that it's a self perpetuating cycle. Women treat men with wariness and distrust, so men have to be more "predatorial" to get women's attention. Men who aren't predatorial and not exceptionally attractive will quite literally get zero attention. Women aren't exactly going for soft boys or approaching average men first. Women effectively reward the predators, so those are what men become.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:26 AM
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It's funny people have this take without a second thought, but there's nothing really stopping any women from having children and a hell of a lot of support for any women, including the incompetent ones, from having children. And those women go on to....create the next generation. Of incompetent women who will continue to reproduce and incompetent men who will create problems for everyone else. Then people come to the conclusion it's those dumb men who are more of the genetic burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:09 AM
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I get what you mean, but I think most men would choose wife over friends. Men only start choosing friends over wife once wife is secured and start getting exposed to the negatives of having a wife. I have never heard of a man with zero dating options choose friends over having a woman. I've heard a great deal about men choosing a new woman over their existing friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:58 AM
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"They have no bread? Let them eat cake." The only reason there's other jobs available is because there are people doing the foundational necessary ones, which are often not pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:56 AM
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Social skills don't matter for dating. I have no problem making a positive impression on anyone I talk to over an extended period of time. But if someone does want to talk to me at all ( such as in dating), then none of that social ability matters. And what happens in the situations where a woman somehow ends up talking to me anyways? Friendzone. It's been said before, but if personality was the problem then they wouldn't want to be friends at all. The usual respond to that is "dating is differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:26 AM
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...So you start of with OP saying that parents giving dating advice isn't normal, then you proceed to say you have neglectful parents. Amazing. Practically, by your own admission, you don't know what normal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:14 AM
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I'd say sex qualifies as a need, insofar as extended periods of sexlessness/romancelessness certainly causes extreme levels of mental distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:16 PM
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I was more talking about the integration of girls into the boy scouts, or the attempt to do so. I didn't pay attention to the outcome of that debacle. Not to mention most women don’t need an organization to support each other. I agree. Women have a massive in-group bias for women, while men have an out-group bias in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:42 PM
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The world doesn't need to be completely fair for your own efforts at self improvement to matter. It mattering is contingent on if it determines success or failure. If you can succeed without trying, or fail while trying, then it doesn't really matter. The real fallacy here is from you, a "never just world" fallacy that claims there are never situations where effort and self-improvement pay off. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's possible to self improve and still fail. To say otherwise …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:39 PM
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Men don't have support networks, it just so happens that nearly every male support network was systematically dismantled over the past several decades for fear that male support networks were hiding The Patriarchy. See: boy scouts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:14 PM
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What if the women are not properly socialized and not giving proper signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:55 PM
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If they were obvious we wouldn't be having this discussion. Maybe it's obvious for extremely attractive men where women can't afford to faff about with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:49 PM
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No apparent attempt at improving, just doomerism Why would I constantly qualify my doomerism with every discussion I have? Then they'll just nitpick about what I did do, even though I went above and beyond. I lost 100 lbs I lifted weights up to .75/1.25/1.75/2.5 I went to meetups I 'touched grass' The only thing I didn't do was cold approach women. I literally talked to more women back when I was playing D&D than when I was actually in shape and trying to meet people. Furthermore, that's beyond …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:22 PM
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I am friends with a guy with horrendous social skills. Now he did get a gf. Evidently not, considering he has multiple female friends and even a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:10 PM
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"Women decide if they want to have a relationship with you or not" You have no idea what you are talking about. ok rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:08 PM
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It is more likely that men are going to band together and change society than to collectively "self improve" for a nebulous goal with negative ROI ( if you have to self improve to get women, then the women you're going to get are probably not worth the effort you put in to improving ). This is very clear from historical circumstances as well. Class mobility was practically nonexistent unless you took advantage of a power reshuffle from war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:03 PM
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As a "pretty person" myself, I have experienced times when my attractiveness didn't matter if I displayed a particular negative social behavior. I already said negative behaviors can make you less attractive. I have also seen many ugly people overcome their looks with positive social behaviors. So you doomers are just flat out wrong. Why would I trust your lived experiences instead of my own while you don't extend me that same courtesy? you refuse to develop positive social skills / mental quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:32 AM
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See, you're confusing negative mental qualities being unattractive with positive mental qualities making someone attractive. That's why I pointed out the difference. Name any positive mental quality, and there's a negative spin version of it for when a physically unattractive person has the trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:19 AM
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There is no "attractive behavior". The exact same behavior will be seen as sexually attractive, neutral, or sexually unattractive depending on who is doing it. If how the behavior is perceived is based on who is doing it, then it's not the behavior itself but the person doing it. i.e. confidence is perceived as arrogance if you're a low value male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:18 PM
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Freedom of speech must be utterly incomprehensible to you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:18 PM
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Statistically incels do less crime than any demographic you could think of ( I've don't recall seeing any other incels talk about their experience in prison), and equivocating laughing over crime with being a criminal is toxic femininity in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:23 PM
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Lol that you think it's jealous it's more like catharsis. Women have all the sexual power and act like they are moral agents because of it, so it's refreshing to see living proof that women aren't particularly at mate selection. You mentioned incels, so I'll point out that single moms are evidence that incels aren't incels because they are bad people. Unless you sincerely think saying mean things on the internet makes you a worse person than a deadbeat dad or a woman who separates a father from …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:06 PM
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That hard pill to swallow that women and bluepillers won't accept is there is basically zero correlation between positive mental qualities and attractiveness. That's not to say that negative mental qualities aren't unattractive. Even social savviness, the attraction is merely incidental to their status in a social hierarchy. BP constantly engages in double think, women aren't vending machines you put goodness coins in to but dating is a meritocracy so if you're failing it's because you didn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:49 PM
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Men are upset about this because women are usually not inclusive of men in this jovial "living their best life" behavior. And before someone says men would be included if men wanted to be; being an asexual jester is not actually being included. Men will not leave their sexuality at the door while women talk about their 'sneaky links' The men who find it distasteful probably lack one or more of the following: fulfilling social life, a romantic partner, a tolerable job, and well paying job So thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:42 PM
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I care, and I will always use it as a wedge because it is the most blatant, obvious, clear as day example that feminists aren't willing to do SHIT for men. Even when they were getting circumcision banned around the globe they couldn't even be bothered to add a "ALL circumcision is bad" clause. Oh wait, they fucking did. They literally went as far to say ALL female circumcision is mutilation, but somehow those same women couldn't make the cognitive leap to stop doing it to their own sons as well.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:26 PM
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a set or category of things having some property or attribute in common and ~differentiated~ from others by kind, type, or quality. If sex/gender wasn't a class then feminism wouldn't exist or even be imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:31 PM
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Okay, so why don't men fight for that then? Women love this argument. As if men didn't fight for women and feminist casuses en masse. Again, it really shows which gender actually cares about the other. Men do fight for it, it's just ignored because no one cares about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:28 PM
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You know full damn well when people say "go outside" they aren't talking about going to walmart. Now you're just straight up lying. I can't believe a single thing you write if you say you've ever been to a walmart where people are just passively visibly happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:26 PM
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Why not? Why does every class, including men, have to be 'inclusive' but not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:24 PM
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It's really telling that none of the responses to this are "try to hook him up with one of your female friends" If the most you're willing to do for him are empty platitudes he can find on the internet - he's not much of a friend. And this highlights the problem with modernity; men are on their own. It's every man for themself, and even 'friends' aren't reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:00 PM
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So you would say employers 'ignoring' any application based on race or gender isn't oppression, it's just 'ignoring' those applications?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:05 PM
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The problem with the "go outside" argument is, society is increasingly becoming as such only "winners" are outside to begin with. Only socially adjusted people are outside doing things. Everyone else is 'go to work, go home' on repeat. There could be tens of millions of shut in isolated 'losers' and if you went 'outside' you'd never see them, falsely concluding that those people posting online are just making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:04 PM
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Female circumcision - banned Male circumcision - legal Sure is "equality", huh? When female circumcision was defended on religious or aesthetic grounds, those defenses were rejected. When male circumcision is defended on religious or aesthetic grounds, suddenly genital mutilation is worth keeping around - but only for males. This behavior can be generalized to society in general and it really shows which gender actually cares about the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:58 PM
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Women want to talk about their feelings/problems to feel better. Men want their problems to be solved to feel better. Notice that one of these is something therapists can actually do, while the other the therapist can only hope things work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:12 PM
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Why do you come here just to advocate "actually, everything is fine". What are you trying to accomplish? It can't be deradicalization, because telling people that their lived experience doesn't matter and everyone else is living fine, isn't going to work. You sound like someone saying the economy is totally fine and there's no red flags because the stock market has been at all time highs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:51 PM
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Men definitely start getting deranged if they go for too long without sex. You could argue it's a chicken or the egg situation, but there's little evidence to believe that women have a manic incel detector.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:35 AM
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This. The fact OP had to add "yeah they may be x, but that's not too big a deal"...get the fuck out of here. Come back when your example is "It's so and so, you'll literally have never heard of him because he's a plumber and there's hundreds of people with the same name". OP's idea of "male with low status" is...someone you could google and get first page results on. lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:45 PM
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I'm so glad that I was born as this attitude began and not centuries in the future after it leads to the collapse of civil society. It's really fortunate we'll all be dead before the real consequences start happening. This is an example of male narcissism and sexual entitlement I can't understand Ah yes, that narcissism and entitlement of extrapolating trends and educated guessing on what happens when the population shrinks and no one wants to do real work because everyone is out for themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:28 PM
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Well if they’re struggling to attract women at all, then they likely have no value to any woman. Which would count as no objective value in my book. "Any price the free market offers is, by definition, fair."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:36 PM
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Male sexuality is predatory because if we aren't, women will ignore us. You have to be very physically attractive or high status for women to take the initiative in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:40 AM
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Confidence doesn't matter. People have mistaken correlation and causation; attractive people are more confident because they know whatever they do is more likely to be positively responded to. "Insecure" people have a history of negative responses and adjust their behavior accordingly. People need to stop bullshitting as if people are independent from the influence of the external. You are not an ubermensch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:25 PM
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It has so little traction that westerners are hearing about it. Just like the redpill had "no traction" up until tate was on mainstream media then suddenly you couldn't tell such a bald faced lie anymore because liberals were crying about the negative influence tate and the manosphere was having on young men. "no traction", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:13 PM
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If that were true we wouldn't need dating coaches at all because the default feminist ideological motivated advice that young males are indoctrinated with would already be working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:18 PM
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"get a hobby" is just a normie buzzword they use so they can pretend if a man can't get a woman it's due to a character flaw on his part because admitting women just aren't interested in "good" men, a good man can easily be alone just from bad luck, conflicts with the "women are wonderful" concept. If having a hobby mattered, why don't women need hobbies? I never see the advice slung in the other direction, yet the advise is ostensibly gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:01 PM
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No, that explanation doesn't explain anything. People just mindlessly parrot it without actually thinking. In both groups, men are more single than women. If "women are dating older men" was the answer, you wouldn't see older men 30-40 STILL significantly single more often than women. The only time these numbers reverse, is past retirement age. So unless women are all dating men on average 10+ years older than them, "women date older men" doesn't explain shit. IIRC the average age gap is only ~2…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:49 PM
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Notice that you consider it a price? Then women wonder why men care about body count. You're admitting dick-in has a price to pay and some men have to pay different prices, for varying mileages!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:56 PM
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This makes sense but it makes me think that women organize people into an internal caste system. It would explain why it's so difficult to get out of the friendzone and they get angry when someone in the "friend" caste tries to get into the "boyfriend" caste.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:53 PM
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And from his perspective your rejection of him amount to "I don't like you -that- much" which in any other context is known to be deeply offensive, but when it comes to romantic relationships ( and only when a woman is communicating the sentiment) suddenly it's ok. Like if someone you thought was a friend says about you "they aren't my friend, just an acquaintance" you don't think you'd be upset at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:49 PM
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Penis size obviously matters, otherwise people wouldn't have insecurities about it and kvetch about how it doesn't matter. Same thing happens with most other things concerning male attractiveness. Looks doesn't matter, until the data is too much to deny, suddenly "obviously looks matters". Height doesn't matter, until the data is too much to deny, suddenly "obviously height matters". There just hasn't been any study on the correlation between dick size and sexual success, so it's still in the pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:53 PM
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In a 90% women and 10% women world, humanity would have never left the stone age. Arguably, we wouldn't have even entered the stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:18 PM
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lol it's more like men are willing to cut their losses even if it hurts while women will get deep into sunk cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:18 PM
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"Man vs Bear" is a huge argument against democracy now that I think about it. You can literally get people to change their entire sociopolitical response by changing minor details. "White man vs bear" will get different answers than "Black man vs bear". Now imagine just how easily they are finessed with dumb questions and arguments that are more subtle...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:13 PM
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Yet another thread full of "no one is entitled to anything" that can only ever end in "no one is entitled to a safe and functional society". Yes, the concept of giving people stuff you don't want to give them because the consequences of what they'll do if you don't is valid. It's not a threat. It's called living in a society. Society is a balancing act. It's why you pay taxes. Hood black culture is a good example of this in play. When asked why they think it's okay to rob, hurt, or kill people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:30 PM
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The "red pill" ( formerly PUA) didn't exist 20 years ago. Nowadays, if you ask someone about the red pill they'll being up Andrew Tate and misogyny. And you're saying it hasn't gotten any traction offline lmfao. You have no longer term thinking abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:02 PM
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a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice true trying to logic women into being attracted to them false They are warning other men that because they are not the first choice, the risk they take being involved with women exponentially increases
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:52 PM
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What's even crazier is that MatchGroup shares bans between applications, and bans NEVER expire or can be appealed. You get banned once and any piece of that set of credentials is out of their online dating ecosystem, forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:18 PM
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A guy can't afford to just be normal, good, and boring. He has to be attractive and/or exciting. Which by definition excludes normal average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:13 PM
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Normal people don't understand the nuances why some mentally disabled people will hit their head or smash it against a wall when overstimulated, but that doesn't mean the conclusion to make is that deep; the behavior is obviously harmful and they shouldn't be doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:52 PM
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Do men not realize that striking up a light convo in the spirit of flirtation isn’t the same as street harassment This is determined entirely on the whim of the woman being talked to. Who are you to tell the victim what is or isn't harassment if she felt uncomfortable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:47 AM
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if you want to overcome approach anxiety=approaching more, really simple It's not that simple. Anxiety isn't overcome just by confronting the source of the anxiety, it's by SUCESSFULLY overcoming the source of the anxiety. A fear of heights isn't overcome by jumping off of tall places and then dying, it's accomplished by jumping off of tall places and then not dying. Likewise, a fear of approaching women isn't solved by approaching women and getting rejected, it's solved by approaching women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:43 AM
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How do you reconcile "that person is average" = "that person is worthless"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:38 AM
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A chance of success can't be reduced to below 0%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:07 AM
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that they miss that their facial expression makes them look like they wish that they were never born into this world. Typical inversion of cause and effect. The expression is a result of their experiences, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:36 AM
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Bad people will always exist. There isn't much you can do about it. But good people do exist, and they can make rules and social structures so that bad people don't win over good people. You are not a better option. Youre the same thing in a different font Wanting people and society to be good, reward good people, punish bad people, increase the amount of good people, and decrease the amount of bad people makes me... evil and abusive? Makes total sense. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:39 PM
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lol if women didn't need to choose better, then spousal abuse would not exist. If women did not choose to be with abusive partners, then abusive partners wouldn't exist. By definition. Pointing this out doesn't make someone a bad person. It's funny how whenever someone does, women try to equate it being an abusive or bad person. Do you think that these reddit posts are of the same substance as wifebeating, rape, murder, theft, drug dealing, child abandonment, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:30 PM
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there seem to be more men who think their dating struggles are an injustice Bad and evil people having better life outcomes than good and fair people is, by definition, injustice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:21 PM
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Not being in the percentage of "bad men" doesn't mean you deserve better. That's what I thought I read until I reread it, but then I realized that's what you mean anyways. Bad men get partners. The data shows that bad men are better at getting partners than good men. Society can not and will not be able to sustain that trend. Women need to choose better. It doesn't have to be me, but it does have to be someone without a criminal record or baby mommas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:01 PM
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It's really tiresome seeing this idea that you're not a good person unless you're literally better than Jesus. God: How dare you ask to be delivered from the Cross! You're not entitled to anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:55 PM
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Your reasoning is flawed and my argument is based on the same reason that a woman making out with you doesn't necessarily mean she consented to sex. You can't know just because she is making out with you that she consents to you touching her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:58 PM
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How do you expect someone, who's been going their entirely life being told that touching a woman without explicit consent is sexual assault, to inexplicably break that conditioning? Especially when even in the contexts where you assert it is acceptable to do so, it's not actually necessarily so? If she decides she didn't like it, it's still just as much sexual assault as if you approached her randomly in a store and did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:44 PM
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Wow, a whole 2 people who are independent actors. That's not a group nor coordinated terrorism. The wiki page has an entire subsection that lists all the men that identify as incels that have gone spree killing. Wiki is not working for me, but I'll assume it's more of the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:36 PM
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You are not entitled to people not complaining ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:07 PM
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A handful of murders over the course of several decades only means something because people want to hate incels. It's just a post hoc justification. Other groups have murderers at actually statistically relevant numbers, at least moreso than incels, yet no one says "x group is bad" Hell, serial killers have FAN CLUBS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:58 PM
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because a group of men who called themselves incels engaged in terrorism Who? First I'm hearing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:56 PM
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It's not that mysterious - the blackpill/incell movement has screwed over a lot of dudes who were already struggling. The blackpill and incels didn't do shit. People have always regarded low sexual value males in a similar way. They were saying similar things about "Nice Guys". "It's because incels are icky misognist murderers" is all post hoc justification. Otherwise people wouldn't be talking about isolated incidents like ER a whole decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:53 PM
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Why is it only an expectation that women should have to "listen to men's problems?" Men are listening, who do you think is doing the radicalizing? But men can't give men families or children. In order for someone to find "no reason to disagree" that other human beings are subhuman, they must have that belief to some extent to begin with. This is simply not true. It's merely a matter of being able to view things through different ideological frames. Women have behaviors x, y, z. In ideology a, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:55 PM
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It's more like: "No one is listening to me or cares about my problems. Then I found this guy who has the same problems and he seems right about a lot of things. His worldview is practically a science, it has predictive power, and he has demonstrated this to me. Now he's telling me women are subhuman and I have no real reason to disagree. Everyone who is saying he is wrong about women being subhuman are the same ones who don't care about my problems and seem to want to make my life worse." If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:36 PM
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There's nothing about being"trauma dumped on" that necessitates "organizing." War is never the only option, yet it happens all the time. I'm not saying what "ought" to happen, but what probably will. The main thing people who are constantly trauma-dumped on want to organize is 1) their exit, and 2) avoiding spending more time with that person. And then 2 keeps happening until either 1 happens or they meet a likeminded person and now you have redpill, mgtow, manosphere, blackpill, incels, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:40 PM
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I'm curious why their "free trauma-dumping outlet" must be female. Because if it's not women, then it's just going to be a bunch of disgruntled men talking to each other and organizing. You probably know where that leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:28 PM
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It hasn't even gotten as worse as it could easily be. Wait until war breaks out in more countries and people will see the disconnect between how women and men are treated. Women will be allowed to just leave the country to safer ones, men could get literally kidnapped. They somehow have the same rights, and the former group can vote for war the latter group has to fight in. See: Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:21 PM
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The count could also be explained where women still have a lifetime sexual partner count of 8, except all of those women are having sex with the same handful of men ( leading to the top tier men having body counts of 30+) It's still alpha fucks, beta bucks. It's just not women having sex with every alpha who exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:19 PM
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Why are you more angry that women don’t feel safe around random men than at the men who make us feel that way? Change it from gender to race and it's readily apparent why it is offensive: "Why are you more angry that white people don’t feel safe around random black people than at the black people who make us feel that way?" You can throw a tantrum about it if you want but that won’t change that we would legitimately rather encounter the bear. "We know that they are lying, they know that they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:40 PM
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You can't even be trusted to be honest about your own behavior even when we know you are lying about your answer. Saying you’d be in the woods with a bear is an opinion. No. There is an actual answer to that question. If you were ACTUALLY lost in the woods and you heard a rustling, you'd sooner hope it was a person than a bear. My point is that if it WERE an actual boots-on-the-ground decision made in the moment we all know what answer you would choose, so why even lie? There is an near objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:36 AM
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Women can't be trusted to objectively self report their self experience because women will say things like "I'd rather be alone in the wood with a bear than a man" and "I'm an incel. Oh I've had boyfriends before. Let me just change the definition of incel. I'm a femcel!" You can only be trusted that you are being honest about what you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:46 AM
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Something is obviously going on, and crying "it's not LITERALLY 80/20, so nothing is happening!" is disingenuous and others have noticed it the dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:18 PM
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Accountable: (of a person, organization, or institution) required or expected to justify actions or decisions; responsible. I'm noticing an unsettling amount of people in this thread operating on shame based morality rather than guilt base morality. They speak of an external authority that needs to exist for people to be held accountable. When it's really as simple as reviewing a circumstance and seeing what factors existed that lead to it. Yes, some of those factors will be your own decisions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:05 PM
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It's actually crazy that mainstream media has stuff like "women don't need men". That's how socially accepted it is for women to completely disregard and denigrate men. On the other hand, the redpill and blackpill is ALL about either getting with women or coping that women don't want men. It's all about changing ( or the inability to do so ) yourself to be what women want. Then clowns come along and say "redpillers want a replacement for women because they don't like that women are people!" I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:00 PM
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*24 hour a day job. You never know if the way you sleep will give her the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:47 PM
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I love these threads because women come out the woodwork with apologetics for abusers. They make out abusers to be highly competent and savvy, despite men somehow being able to detect dangerous men without having to be in an intimate relationship with abusers. I suspect the answer really is a simple: "women are more ok with being abused than with being with a weak low status man".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:01 PM
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What is the difference between being codependent, and depending on other people to be healthy? Codependency sounds like something modern society just made the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:55 PM
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I think they are saying "things are about as good as they could realistically be, given the circumstances". And they are right. Things have never been better for women in human history. To decry the current state as a "bad time" means you need to get some perspective and grow up. You'll never live in a crime-free fantasy land. Adults come to terms with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:25 AM
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Nope. You have one of the female mods justifying the "man vs bear" misandry over the course of several threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:55 PM
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Because there is a low key understanding that the "extremists" are correct; there is something deeply wrong with modern society, and the "extremist" has logical answers as to who, what, why, and how to solve it. Non-"extremists" think the lukewarm half measures that aren't working now will work eventually...somehow. As a result, the "extremists" have to be censored so the status quo supporters can maintain power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:29 PM
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If you are on this forum, then you "like to argue". Does you think you have a personality problem regarding "likes to argue"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:25 PM
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It says something about women that they collectively answer a question in bad faith to make a point to men...but that they are answering in -bad faith- is evidence that men aren't actually that bad, so why does the "point" need to be made? Then when men explain "that is not your honest answer, you are answering in bad faith and your reasons for answering in bad faith is even worse" they say "we answer in bad faith because of men like you!. "this is why women choose the bear!" while in reality th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:17 PM
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And neither does the hypothetical say "rapist and/or murderer" yet you still assume the worst. Are you saying that rapists/murders are at least as common in humans are black bears are common among the US bear population.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:54 PM
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men have a tendency to invade female spaces in really disrespectful and aggressive ways that women don’t nearly as much with male spaces. lmao. At best you can argue that it may not be women but people doing it on behalf of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:36 PM
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Misogyny (and racism, etc) is ultimately a product of making a judgement on how humans should be valued and it's inevitable that when you rank humans, some groups will do better or worse than others. Is a chicken better than a tuna? It's a nonsensical question. But when you add the context of "which is better given I am using them for the purposes of consumption and I have so and so resources available" and there is a more clear answer. This is why despite being black I understand white supremac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:27 PM
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I think it says a lot about the current state of marriage when you analyze the terms you just used: "party" and "celebrate". Not stronger terms, such as "ritual", "ceremony", "oath", and "bondage". It's like, no wonder marriages are so frivolous. It just amounts to a party and celebration, which are ephemeral in nature. Not an attack on you or anything, just food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:05 AM
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Sounds made up to be honest: porn addict crossdresser 46 year old incel fantasy of being with younger women And somehow a real persons conclusion is "I can make this work! I'll give him a chance"? Meanwhile there's actual incels in their early/mid 20s without nearly as much baggage who don't get a single chance. doubt.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:59 AM
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You can argue for a position without actually living it. Never heard of "do as I say, not as I do."? I'm saying she's the equivalent of a homophobic preacher who turned out to be gay. It's about how she herself didn't live up to what she professed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:38 AM
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No. It's because Pearl is not actually redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:05 AM
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Men cannot do anything collectively for the common good, any more than women can This is wrong. Men can and they have, historically. Likewise women can and they have, historically and in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:55 PM
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I called you stupid because you cast the first stone, and you ignored the rest of the argument lmfao. You're not owed not being called out for being an ignorant moron. Ironic you talk about tantrums when you're the one refusing to engage ( but still bothering to respond how you don't want to engage) because you were called stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:28 PM
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*chooses to go to debate sub* *doesn't understand argument* *doesn't read elaboration of argument* *unearned sense of superiority* Not a good look for your side of the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:49 PM
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Not my fault you're too stupid to follow. I can spell it out for you: When twerps harp on about criminals impregnating lots of women I like to point out the sort of women they impregnate. This is the observation that "bad men are more successful with women than good men" Your average twerp would be scared by them. This is implying that the reason the above observation is happening is because the "good men" are "too scared" to be with those women. Implying that the reason "bad men are more succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:33 PM
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Your average twerp would be scared by them. Bullshit. Those women aren't interested in "squares" or "corny" men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:55 PM
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isn’t it obvious that the person has to pass some baseline acceptability of looks? There's been a whole meme about "women don't care about looks" (as much as men) that has suffused the cultural zeitgeist. When the data shows they care about looks even more than men. So no, it's not obvious in the way commonly presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:30 PM
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Where we differ is what that minimum level of immutable physical attractiveness. I don't disagree. My disagreement is that women communicate as if "vibe" is the starting point of attraction when it's more like step 2. It's not like men don't care about "vibe" but we still acknowledge that step 1 is physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:13 PM
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I'll give you boring, but why assume they are insecure and lack confidence? You can be secure and confident in the knowledge that your interests are niche and people generally don't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:03 PM
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Women are upset when their value as a mother or housemaker is referred to. No one is telling them if they aren't a mother or homemaker they are worthless though. Meanwhile men have no choice but to be defined by the value they bring to others and society. No one cares, not even the women complaining about "people" whose value metric is based on their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:04 PM
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humans can assess behavioral attractiveness from social media presence than from a flat image. Men have photos of their likes and hobbies and friend outings and events and vacations and buds chilling drinking beer and playing basketball on social media. There are captions and IG stories and so much more. I'm saying that this "behavioral attractiveness" is not even assessed unless the man meets a minimum level of attractiveness to be considered for additional observation. In effect, it's not sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:59 PM
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Most of the instagram men being thirsted for by women are well above average looking. Why is it that very attractive men can have an "interesting vibe" where average looking hardly ever have an "interesting vibe" enough to overcome their looks? It's not the same for women a woman doesn't need to be well above average looking to be thirsted after by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:43 PM
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If someone uses the words "all women" or AWALT, then it's likely they do mean all women. You are arguing in bad faith or engaging with trolls and then...arguing in bad faith with the non-trolls on the basis that the trolls exist. No one in a serious context says 100% of men/women are x or y. We can't even say that about gender specific features, like ovaries, ability to give birth/produce sperm, penis, etc. If someone doesn't say AWALT/all women, then it would be foolish to say they're talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:48 PM
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Women require more than generic static photo images to feel aroused or “attraction” in the way men seem to feel it. Most women require intuiting his vibe and presence to feel attraction. This is best done IRL. I doubt this is true. Men on instagram get women thirsting for them all the time if they are attractive and have the "vibe" ( read: looks, money, status ). It's very possible to do it online, it just runs into the same issue as with online dating: most women are simply not attracted to mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:34 PM
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Most of the time it's accepted as just that...a generalization, with just as many men who don't fit it as those who do. When negative generalizations about women are brought up, the comment section has many men who try to claim "all" women or 99% or at least 95%+ of women are like that. The irony.... It's *women* who go "but I'm not like that! stop generalizing!". You really think the men who are capable of generalizing themselves with grace, are incapable of generalizing women? You're doing wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:12 PM
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Women do not have empathy for men; it's cut and dry. The most damning evidence: Western women campaigned to get female circumcision banned on the UN level. Women cared more about women on the other side of the planet getting circumcised that the boys in their own country, cities, and neighborhoods. When that was done, did they start campaigning about male circumcision? No, women moved on to complaining about increasingly inane bullshit. When you bring this up, the response amounts to "not my pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:32 PM
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Let’s be real, men here don’t care about giving any empathy towards women either. It’s evident in every comment section. People need to realize that they are just as shitty as the opposite sex. Bluepillers love this bullshit. If I say "I don't have empathy towards y group -anymore- because of x reasons" idiots like you come along and say "wow you don't have any empathy? maybe that's why x happened!" Goodwill is not an endless well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:25 PM
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The funny thing is you -only- said "women don't need sex". Implying you agree that the other conditions exist. I'd say sex is a lot more fair and equitable condition for love than good looks, status, wealth, attention, and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:20 PM
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Damn, I got nothing to say to that logic. I mostly agree with you, but I don't entirely agree with you. Specifically, the bits about putting humans above animals. But I'll concede I'm somewhat of a hypocrite on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:54 PM
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What have you done to campaign against animal rape? Unless you are vegan ( and arguably, even then) you are a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:34 PM
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What have you done to campaign against animal rape? I hope you're vegan, otherwise you're a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:34 PM
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*I'd rather life go extinct because it generally doesn't adhere to the females free will to procreate Fix'd that for you, taking your own reasoning to it's logical conclusion. Why are you limiting it to humans? You literally just said it's forced on ALL females. You are an actual death cultist lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:12 PM
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Oh, so only positive traits can be masculine/feminine? Is rape masculine or feminine behavior? If it's feminine behavior, explain why it's mostly males of every mammal species engaging in rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:57 AM
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No. If you are in a car then it is on you to vocalize "I don't like where we are going. Stop and let me out or go to where I want to go". After which the onus is on them to correct their behavior or to let you go. But if someone is driving and you don't say anything, you are implicitly consenting to where they are going. You are not entitled to transportation. Just because you don't like where they are taking you, doesn't mean they are obligated to drive you anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:25 PM
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It’s funny how someone can do gymnastics to say someone is not entitled to a ride when the sole reason they are in that location is by his choice. She agreed to get into the car with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:00 PM
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Yep. This is another thread that the women and bluepill males disagree but don't have any actual arguments against. They are using strong shaming language to shut down the discussion. Women don't seem to realize they are handing W's "creeps" like OP (outside of bluepill/women echo chambers) when they are incapable of formulating a reasonable counterargument to OP and just devolve into strawmen and ad hom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:19 PM
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She said yes but what was the alternative. You are not entitled to transportation lmfao. It's hilarious how the "you're not entitled" song and dance switches up REAL fucking quick when it's about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:54 PM
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Your post has "vote with your wallet" energy. Of course, that concept turned out to be total bullshit because even if you as an individual are conscientious with your money/attention there's enough total retards who will out vote you that all you can do is pretend it's not there and not happening. It doesn't matter that I'm not spending a single dollar on microtransactions, because there's guys spending $1,000+ a month that they can listen to instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:19 AM
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It's good for gaining more inner peace. I did the improvement, meeting up, trying new things, getting new hobbys. Nothing worked, nobody cared. Pretty much what the redpill advises, except redpillers say it something was supposed to change if you did those things. So I can rest easy knowing that, at least for me, it's really not my fault and the blackpill is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:50 AM
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You are right, and OP looks like they already knows those are different positions from this quote: its a "we dont like sex" AT THE LEAST they definitely do not desire sex as much as men. This is a FACT that we need to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:39 PM
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Seeing so many others dunking on OP not by dismantling his arguments but "haha OP doesn't have sex with women", which they have already admitted to. Not even agreeing with OP, but you lot come across as a bunch of screeching chimps than reasonable people. The top post is even "I don't have time to do anything but laugh at you" with a bunch of women somehow also finding the time to respond to -that- post similarly. Then they wonder why incels get radicalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:16 PM
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Nah. You don't need to have sex to look at all the data and determine "women don't like sex ( nearly as much as men like sex with women )".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:08 PM
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In business for example, those who cut costs by doing morally wrong things make more money than a non profit ever could. That's a very nice way you framed it. Totally doesn't reflect terribly on you at all. /s Polite society generally desires to create laws or informal rules to stop businesses from doing morally wrong and unethical things. Everyone deserves safety On what basis? Women keep repeating this as if it is self evident; it is not. It could just as well be argued that people only 'deser…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:43 PM
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How do women reconcile that 'the spark' inevitably fades but only ever wanting a relationship with the initial spark? Wouldn't you think that having 'spark' is ultimately irrelevant for the wellbeing of the relationship considering how ephemeral it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:26 PM
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Like most well adjusted healthy men want equality for people, regardless of gender. Whether or not it gets their dick wet. I see right through your faux positivity. Hasn't been true for most of human history. Isn't true now. Love when women imply that every society in human history other than the current one in current year with current politically correct mores are mentally ill or maladjusted. I get that you only see the benefit of woman as one thing Women's chief domain and primary utility to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:17 AM
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The difference between him and a man on the street was not goddamn attractiveness - but the fact that we had been talking for 1-2 weeks. Lady, you met him online. 1-2 weeks is nothing. It's so easy to put on a persona through text it's ridiculous. Yes the difference is that he was attractive because if he was some random guy on the street you would not have been talking to him for 2 weeks in the first place. A random man on the street asks you "want to go to get in my car", you'd say no. Please …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:12 AM
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Because that isn’t a part of the social contract. It is. If women collectively decided to stop having sex with men indefinitely, it doesn't take a genius to know how quickly women's right to choose would be removed. See: China. What you do with your reproductive capacity -is- part of the social contract whenever the powers that be feel concerned about it. See also: roe v wade. Because it benefits you to. People advocate and behave in ways that don't benefit them all the time. Some value self det…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:45 PM
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No it can’t, but ok. Says who? You? Anyone can say anything they want and ultimately the only thing stopping them is the threat of death and/or violence. The only reason you have the freedom you do is because there's more people in your locale willing to kill to preserve it than people who are indifferent or adverse to preserving it for you. Back in history times where men were free to force relationship, what can you say to them that can't similarly be dismissed as "no. your feelings are not my…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:26 PM
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Its also societies responsibility to maintain order and balance with common law and a justice system. That sounds dangerously close a social contract, which is only agreed upon because it's sufficiently beneficial to the participants. It’s no one’s responsibility to give you a relationship. This is part of the social contract that is being failed to be upheld. Why should they obey the social contract that benefits you, when for one of their highest concerns all you can say is "you're not entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:13 PM
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It's more like "good men are entitled to have better life outcome than bad men" and if you disagree with that, how do you justify "people (women) are entitled to safety" when you've already established your position doesn't care about justice or righteousness?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:03 PM
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Physical safety is a literal necessity. You are not entitled to physical safety. It's your own responsibility to protect yourself. Not even the police in the US have a responsibility to protect. What now? What happens when your assumptions and axioms are no longer agreed with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:59 PM
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The women responding to this with downvotes and saying "it's not rare" are missing something from the male perspective: the kind of man who acts that way is not common. The reason it's not a rare experience for women is because that minority of men do it to every women. So you have (making up numbers here) 5-10% of men being jackasses to 80-90% of women and women thinking it's a problem with men. Because women make it a faux pax to ask women out, there's a kind of selection pressure for men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:02 PM
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“Y’all” being the significant population of men who act like women are acting irrationally for being afraid or extra cautious around men. The issue is that women seem to be 'extra cautious' around men they don't need to be, while that caution disappears for "Tinder date who changes plans on you and suddenly the 'date' is you in his car taking you to his hotel room". You try to pass it off as "you were young, and you know better *now*" which is TOTAL BULLSHIT. You knew better all along, it's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:54 PM
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I think the difference is that a father telling his daughter not to trust strange men is talking to a -child-. She doesn't know any better and is more easily manipulated. It's easier to tell a child "don't do x, it's dangerous' than try to explain the concept of nuance and uninformed decision-making to a child. An adult is capable of making situational judgements so ought not need to operate on blanket discriminatory practices and should be able to gauge a persons danger level by their "vibe", s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:09 AM
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enough black men are violent criminals that many people aren't exactly willing to roll the dice and hope that the random black man that they encounter on the streets isn't it. See how fucked up your reasoning is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:38 AM
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It's amazing how the women on here do more to support the redpill than redpillers in an echo chamber ever would. You can practically spell it out for them how what they are saying is incredibly offensive and polarizing and they'll still be blind to how the "man vs bear" question makes them out to be misandrists. "Noo women aren't saying all men are untrustworthy predators, we're just try to make a point! About what? Women feel unsafe around men. Why? Because men are untrustworthy predators. Oh b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:16 AM
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And also because men who require the subjugation of women to “feel” masculine… are not masculine. This is utter bullshit and cope. There's a reason it's men and not women doing the banditry, raping, and pillaging in history. You can say it's -toxic- masculinity, sure. But to claim plying violence and domination is not masculine is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:37 AM
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What a loaded question. You know full well people are not allowed to be honest in that discussion for fear of outright censorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:45 PM
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The purpose of answering "Bear" was to convey just how terrifying it is to be a woman in today's world. It was to say, "Hey, shit is bad out here, fix your shit men!". No one knew it would blow up like it did, and now it's too late - we have to own this position. Yeah and that's really fucking stupid, because society is about as good to women as it could possibly be without more overt dystopian surveillance or thought policing. It amounts to crying fire is hot or the night is dark. We've done as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:14 PM
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The problem is absolutely NOT "overwork". People had more children -during- industrialization ( harsh working conditions and 80+ hour work weeks) than in post industrial societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:18 PM
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Keyword here is -choosing-. The men who are lonely aren't choosing it. Huge difference between a rich person living a minimalist lifestyle because they enjoy it, and a poor/homeless person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:43 PM
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Neglect and isolation -is- being treated badly. He wanted more. He wanted to fuck her. So it’s not valid because it’s incorrect. So what happens when it's every woman who is rejecting him? The feeling is still invalid because you'll find a way to blame him for that too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:30 PM
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Wow we sure have an incel expert here. Let me respond, as an incel. Their worldview is defined by a total lack of empathy and nuance, much of which is caused by isolation and inexperience. You try to spin this as if incels just woke up and decided to be bitter virgins one day. The lack of empathy is a response from the lack of empathy given to them in the past. "inexperience" is also a kind of experience, humans do not exist in a vacuum. I don't need to personally be in a hundreds or thousands o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:18 PM
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That guy is an ass. You should change your flair to radfem. If that guy is an ass, telemarketers and solicitors need to be publicly executed for toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:01 PM
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they aren’t actually randomly mean to me but they don’t want to fuck me so I feeeellllll treated horribly Why is this seen as invalid? When a woman says "I feeeeellll unsafe!" and men dump statistics at them they get told "this is why women choose the bear".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:51 PM
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The guys who are attractive and want a committed relationships, get a committed relationship. The guys who are attractive and don't want a committed relationship, can still easily get relationships. The guys who are unattractive don't get relationships at all. There is a constant reduction of attractive committal men in the dating pool, leading to the appearance of men not wanting committed relationships ( because the remaining ones that do, 'don't count' due to ugliness)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:42 PM
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This. Western feminist, which includes men, went campaigning to get female circumcision being done on the other side of the planet banned. They were so fucking signal boosted I was aware of it before I even knew I -myself- was circumsized. The very women on this forum say "not my problem" and "feminism isn't about helping men" when you bring up they didn't lift a single fucking finger to stop the circumcision being done to boys in their own countries. These same women expect men to have empathy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:40 PM
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Men don't have a clue how bad it is for actually ugly women The world ignores is. The world rejects us. We feel like we're on our own but at the same time for on nowhere. So you are experiencing what the average and below man experiences. Congratulations, you achieved Equality™.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:27 PM
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If it's literally a random woman vs a dog, a woman easily. You can't assume the dog is even trained whatsoever, much less a hunting dog. For all you know you could get a dog that doesn't know how to do anything but bark at useless shit but then shuts up and flees when an actual threat is around. At least a woman can be trusted in a literal do-or-die situation to at least try, self evident by human evolutionary history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:28 PM
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It's the logical conclusion of the "if you won't literally die then you don't need it and it's entitlement to want it if you don't have" argument. You have no basis, using your own reasoning, to differentiate it other than that you personally don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:39 PM
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This. I'm a similar living example, but from the incel angle. I make decent amount of money, and don't spend my money on anything except food and computer stuff. I live alone because roomates would suck, I already disliked living with my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:58 AM
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If you think the lack of qualifiers makes it ambiguous, you're a misandrist. No one who hears "bear" assumes it's a berserk grizzly. A lot of the women choosing "bear" assume the bear just leaving them along is in the cards. If it's "ambiguous" then you REALLY shouldn't choose a bear. Enjoy getting eaten alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:10 PM
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Careful, what kind of narcissist feels entitled to love and affection from their spouse? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:15 AM
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It is the law that protects me. That is enforced by the police. The law is an abstract concept. It does not protect you. There's no official feminist stance on any of that Ok, lets act as if this is the case. Is there or is there not a social expectation that men are supposed to protect women if they witness one being assaulted? Oh look, we've gone from "they never say that" to "yeah they say it, but they don't mean it." You are right, I should have started with "only credible threats count". My…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:27 PM
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I can't not be "owed safety" by someone who isn't threatening my safety in the first place. Oh please, go ahead and pretend there's no expectation that police officers have a duty to protect to the point it had to go to court to determine they did not. Similarly, there is (was? I don't know what the feminist stance on this is anymore) a social expectation that if a woman is being assaulted, male bystanders ought to intervene to protect the woman. I know, because I report them all the time. Someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:31 PM
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You completely sidestepped my point. You can need something to live, be upset about the lack of it, and still not feel entitled to it. And that is for -needs-. It logically follows that non-needs are less extreme. Therefore: people can want sex, be upset about the lack of it, and still not feel entitled to it. That is literally all I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:55 PM
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It means that I have the right to not be harmed That's not what it means in the context of "women aren't owed safety". No one is saying "if women won't give me sex I'm going to hurt women" outside of radfem strawmen. According to the laws and government of my country, I am. Oh, so now entitlements and rights are determined by law? Guess the incels just need to have the law changed so that women owe them sex by right then...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:51 PM
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You're not entitled to anything, not even promises being fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:42 PM
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Braindead take. Food and water is a basic human need, and humans need a source of food or water that in modern society is almost certainly the property of someone. Yet no one says anyone is owed food and water.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:30 PM
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societies come and go. The world keeps on turning. And one day all life on earth will end anyway. You are so astoundingly braindead you forget that you live in an -exceptional- society that cares so much about the concept of consent to begin with. Feminists hear "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots" and not realize what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:27 PM
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How many times do we have to read "if women don't owe men sex, women aren't owed safety" etc.? You fundamentally misunderstand this rhetoric. You are not entitled to a man stepping in to protect you from being assaulted. You are not entitled to a police force, firemen, hell even safety regulations. That is what "women aren't owed safety" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:22 PM
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From what I've seen, women have no issue being completely polite and kind to guys they have zero sexual interest in. So do men, what the fuck are you talking about? Have you never had a job before?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:11 PM
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Let's be honest, the "good things" are often just the bare minimum, not-shitty things to do. "No one is entitled to anything" includes "good things" which blows out your entire world view. How do you reconcile this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:03 PM
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You don't do good things to get laid, you do them because they're the right thing to do. ...and when women reproduce with the men who don't "do the right thing" more than the ones who do, you get a bunch of men who think the men who "do the right thing" as a mark to be taken advantage of. Do you see the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:58 PM
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And I think just about every woman can relate to being creeped on by some older man when they were a child. So you choose the bear, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:34 PM
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Imagine if we treated economic grievance with how women treat men with relationships: You're not entitled to a job. Why do you think employers owe you a living wage. Can't get a job? Can't be the economy, you must be a bad employee. Anything other than at will employment is oppressive and basically slavery. Can't help what employees you feel are a good fit for the business. You are qualified but this conman is simply a better fit for the company's culture.. I actually wish economic regulations w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:30 PM
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It's more like men are tired of women complaining about the consequences of women's choices in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:03 PM
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Men are notorious for not committing, future faking , low effort , hiding from friends/ social media to women they want to bong but don’t want to have a formal relationship with. "Men", huh? Not just a subset of highly desired men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:57 PM
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why assume people want a high value woman? I'm a mediocre man, so a mediocre woman should be good enough for me yet mediocre men don't seem to be good enough for mediocre women nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:52 PM
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His point is that you're not going to meet the socially isolated guys because they aren't in your community, they are isolated. You don't know how bad it is, because you don't know about them or how common/uncommon the guys whose life amounts to "go to work, go home, repeat" are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:47 AM
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I assume it's typical labeling anyone confident but socially low status as "arrogant", "egotistical", "narcissists" and other such terms. If you're a "loser" you're not allowed to be confident and authoritive when you're in your lane and wheelhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:35 AM
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Based on how they described themselves they are a “nerd” whether you like it or not . He is (probably) neurotypical, gainfully employed, had normal social development, has a normal enough social environment to have no problem getting women. And he also likes so shit on "social outcasts" and assume the worst of them. What is this, if not a normie?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:22 AM
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Normies can be mathematicians and play videogames lol. Just the fact that you seem to think all nerds can't get women is proving my point. That you think that was my point is why you're not a nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:53 AM
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You're not a nerd, normie I lowkey dislike how basement dwellers, NEET's, and social outcasts hijacked what being a nerd is. An actual nerd would never say this while bragging about they have no problem getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:17 AM
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The men who "couldn't survive a day without technology" are of the same genetic stock of the men who did. There is no real reason to believe this except a peculiar strain of self serving misanthropy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:09 AM
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Bullshit, where are the feminists in ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:01 PM
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Yes. That was my point. Men don't have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:27 PM
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So which part of that makes me have high standards if I'm strongly considering a woman on my own (lacking) looks level? If I'm a male 3-4 should I only be looking at 1-2 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:26 PM
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Nah. I'm a 30 year old virgin and was seriously considering asking out a coworker even though she was straight up a 3/10 or 4/10 and barely even liked her personality but because we shared some interests. She already had a boyfriend. I imagine it's far worse for men who are actually desperate for women. You can see it for yourself; look at escort websites. I'll tell you that women aren't willing to spend 100s of dollars just to have the company of mediocre or worse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:14 PM
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Amazing how men need to be spending their 20s toiling or they are worthless so they can...have the option of getting a woman who didn't have to do any of that and very likely despite the right move to be do nothing for her still managed to screw that up. Sounds like a raw deal to me. The counterpoint is that "it's not for women, you do that for yourself and the women will just come as a consequence of it" but that's bullshit. Men are totally content with a minimalist/spartan lifestyle and having…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:12 PM
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Dating inequality can be fixed, and it can even be fixed without violating anyones freedom: Total removal of welfare state. Total removal of alimony/child support. Removal of public education, it's just treated as publicly subsidized daycare. Ban hormonal birth control. Corporations aren't allowed to externalize costs by dumping their waste into the public, neither should women be allowed to externalize the cost of their reproductive choices by dumping the pollution into the water supply. The en…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:46 PM
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My experience is similar. I am not a social person at all. I never initiate a conversation with strangers. Random men have initiated conversation with me several times in my life despite this. Meanwhile a woman has never ever initiated a conversation with me out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:25 PM
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No one wants to die, but if men aren't willing to die for the country there is no country. Likewise, if women aren't willing to have children there is no country. You don't think women have a similar responsibility to form families so children can be had, and so that the children are raised in a good environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:13 AM
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In the sense that if men aren't willing to die for the country, there is no country.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:42 AM
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Do you believe that men have a responsibility to die for their country?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:48 PM
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If someone says "men are shallow and violent and want to fuck attractive women without commitment and wealthy powerful men think they deserve the world because they hare hard working" I wouldn't say they are a misandrist. They just identified the negative characteristics that at least a sizable minority, "enough", men have. "I'm lonely because women are shallow and hypergamous and only want to fuck Chad and then try to use me for my money and make me raise somebody else's kid and all these land …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:46 PM
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Because the horrific state of dating is a result of women's freedom of choice, if you're dissatisfied with the current state of dating then you are dissatisfied with women's choice which makes you a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:23 PM
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I really wish women would stop acting as if romantic loneliness is comparable to platonic loneliness. You don't make a family with friends. You don't have children with friends. You generally don't leave your legacy to friends. You don't give power of attorney to friends. People don't say families are joined with friendship, it happens with marriage. "Blood is thicker than water." You don't buy a house with friends. You don't buy a car for/with friends. These institutions, laws, and memes exist …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:38 AM
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I'm not talking about what you think, you narcissistic cunt. I'm speaking about broader social trends where losers get increasingly socially isolated while winners win more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:10 PM
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If people didn't get mad about being called a virgin it would probably lose its sting. Yeah fucking right, men could stop caring about the stigma of being a virgin and it will still have a stigma, because the lower social status it implies. You're pretending the women don't engage in preselection, and that men who want to be around women have incentive to avoid men that women don't want to be around. THAT is why virgin/incel is effective as an insult. It lowers your chances of successful sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:46 PM
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"Hungry people are so needy and desperate for food. Maybe if they stopped doing that people would be more inclined to give them food" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:46 PM
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Since you’re referring to women’s sexual choices, that has little to do with friendship and more to do with the guys’s ability to illicit sexual arousal in that woman in the right context. No disagreement here. Stop with this main character non sense of thinking that people, especially strangers truly care enough about what you do to label you a bad guy. People care enough that "incel" and "virgin" are insults. You're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:43 PM
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I've made friends. I've even had female friends. Doesn't somehow invalidate what it feels like when you ask women out and get nothing but reject and usually a look of disgust. Women really love to pretend their sexual choices are a meritocracy, and men who "fail" must be bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:48 PM
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It's actually crazy how women will dismiss loneliness as no big deal...while they are the gender with an instinctual aversion to most men which reflects in the way they treat men, which in turn reflects how men are treated in aggregate. Women treat most men as either secret rapists or eunuchs, and don't see how that could affect men's psyche?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:21 PM
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This is ultimately a consequence of women being the passive gender. Historically, the only thing women could do that couldn't just as well be explained as "something humans do" is childbirth. Kind of passive. Pregnancy is something that 'happens' to women, not something women 'do'. While for men, engaging in high stakes conflict such as warfare is what men do that isn't easily reduced to "something humans do". And warfare is very obviously active. What are womens benefits that they appreciate ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:45 PM
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Basic politeness I really doubt this. Be more specific about what "basic politeness" entails. respect Respect is earned. Everyone has to earn respect. You are not entitled to respect You're just providing evidence for the adage that women think equal treatment is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:33 PM
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Most men simply don't realise how much coddling they get by default. Can you provide examples? I'd wager most men don't experience what you are speaking of, but because women engage in social pre-selection more often your view of "men" is limited to men that women are more inclined towards. For example, anything related to "Women do x for their boyfriends, that's coddling!" is instantly invalidated by all the men who -don't- have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:03 PM
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If it weren't for being with women irl it is so easy to end up hating women if the online ones are all you have to go off of. This. It's one thing to be told "Women are crazy, they believe X" in a 'toxic' forum. What really radicalizes is when you come to a place like here and women say the absolute dumbest shit. Like a few of the regular female posters unironically saying they feel safer around bears than men. When I see the women in my "peer group" behave exactly as I predicted and base my 'mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:38 PM
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You were on track up until the "feeling entitled to sex". Why do they always posit that is our (incels) position? If "no one is entitled to anything" and "life isn't fair", we come to that line of thoughts conclusion. You are not entitled to not being hated for no reason. You are not entitled to us engaging with your frame at all. If life isn't fair, then we're going to be unfair right back, with each individual interpreting it differently, and to varying degrees. We're worthless losers? Good. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:00 PM
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Having female friends just radicalizes dateless men even further; because the gaslighting "Your personality is why women don't like you" is invalidated. If their personality was so awful, then why do they have friends? In addition, having female friends doesn't make you more attractive to women, it just increases your exposure to women ( increasing the likelihood at least one will find you attractive enough to date, but it is not guaranteed ). I debated putting this one on but some need to hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:01 AM
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You don't know the difference between North Korea and South Korea...just take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:33 AM
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It doesn't matter what women want until they start picking up rifles and rucking their gear ( or men are willing to do it on their behalf). It's 2024 and judging from Ukraine women generally still aren't going to do that. If not now, then when? It also seems like men, west and east, are increasingly disinclined to fight to sustain the current system.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:18 AM
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It's the same way a straight man isn't going to start dating gay men if he can't get a woman, You've never heard of prison gay? This is absolutely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:13 AM
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It's crazy how women will say "being alone is more appealing than being in an unsatisfactory relationship". You can only have that stance -because you have relationship experience-. Being actually alone ( as in, zero relationship experience and/or zero ability to acquire one if you desired it) is worse. The proof is that every woman who writes that statement has relationship experience; it means she has become discriminating with her choice, it's not a result of scarcity. You make that statement…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:10 AM
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You forget that what you see in public is, well, being filtered by people who have a social life. You're hardly ever going to see the men and women who -don't- have a reason to be outside. You won't know them either, for obvious reason. For example, my experience is the opposite; I work in IT and 4/7 ~30 year old young men on my team are basically incels ( including myself). That's actually crazy, for gainfully employed intelligent men making decently above median national income. Even 2 of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:57 AM
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That's incorrect. North Korea and China have birth rate issues off the top of my head. The only reason African countries don't is because it hasn't been long enough since they've industrialized, but they are still on a downward trend. I don't know about Russian birth rates, but it's probably not optimistic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:54 AM
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You are implying, per capita, that you're more likely to be assaulted by a man than by a bear. Because most of the times bears leave you alone. As if, most of the times men aren't similarly leaving you alone. Wow, you've met a handful of bears? That sample size of a double digits at best sure beats out the literal thousands of men who never gave you a second glance. A lot of men don’t simply kill what they catch either but at least a bear isn’t going to fuck my corpse. Oh, this is a troll. You g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:22 AM
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I think an interesting question is what distribution of chance does it take before women change their answer. i.e. would they rather take a 5% chance of being eaten alive vs a 0.01% chance of being raped. Those %s are made up, someone less lazy than I could probably come up with numbers with a basis in known data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:54 AM
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Such an "obvious fact of reality" women literally made a meme about "women aren't as shallow as men when it comes to looks" into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:22 AM
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What a laughable misandrist take on men. At least the desert analogy isn't saying anything negative about women as a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:09 AM
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but in reality the advantages provided by this gap includes the overwhelming ease of dating, relationships, marriage and having your own family in comparison to if that same woman were simply a man. Not just there; it extends to easy of employment both from employers/coworkers wanting to have you around, and in the service industry attracting customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:08 AM
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I will pose my question again because you seem to have gotten pretty far off track from answering it: I've answered it multiple times, you are literally too unintelligent to comprehend the simple point. I'll repeat it again. Intelligence has a correlation with with success among humans. Societies who let their more intelligent members make decisions will generally be more successful than the societies that don't, with the former replacing the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:05 AM
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England, who has arguably won the most competitions (in terms of wars) in modern history, has frequently had female leaders at the helm when doing so. Exceptions. Point to me all the female generals and officers, not figureheads and nobility. NASA employed many female engineers, programmers, and other logisticians in winning the space race. Wow, it only took thousands of years of history. Imagine where humanity would be if it wasn't for misogyny /s. But the real issue in your premise is the fals…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:55 PM
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Your opinion that a person who wins a weight-lifting competition has done so because they are more logical than Queen Elizabeth I Lol you completely missed my point. Get out of your feelings. That you think that when I'm referring to sports when I use the term "competition" in context of societies and selection proves my point. My opinion is that the brutal Darwinian competition that human societies engage in means that those who are able to better engage in warfare would defeat and replace thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:12 PM
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The reason that is conventional wisdom is because historical factors provide evidence it is the case. If men were more emotional and women were more logical, then the societies that deferred decision making to women would out-compete the ones that disregarded women's input.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:05 PM
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"sexual incompatibility" is meaningless if the point of marriage is reproduction and continuation of your culture and bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:51 PM
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Idc about the men because they’re getting what they want regardless lol you think men want to be trapped in a loveless marriage where they are forced to provide for someone they don't care about, maybe even hate? "no pill", huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:39 PM
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Are you a virgin? That would go under the "literally alone" if so, otherwise you have not been entirely so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:01 AM
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Does 'situationship' fall under "I don't have a steady partner" or the "[...] I have a steady partner, but [...]"? The meme exists to describe an actual phenomenon. "I don't have a steady partner" means entirely different things for women than it does for men, and it's not the literal meaning of the term. Also, the image you posted doesn't seem to account for age so the results are going to be biased by including older generations who never had to deal with the current sexual, social, and techno…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:59 AM
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Oh boy it's this cope again: Men marry later in life, women marry sooner and typically marry/date older partners. However, only 25% of 30-49 men are single, much closer to women's 21% single rate of the same age bracket. If 18-29 women are with 30-49 men, and there is still a substantial gap, then are younger women also dating the 50+ brackets? There are still more men that are single in every age bracket up until men start literally dying from age sooner than women. You yourself admit there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:58 PM
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Which is funny, because when certain people want to be treated as an end ( incels), suddenly "you're not entitled to anything!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:04 AM
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No, I'm saying in absolute numbers there's *enough* NT men willing to date autistic women, that autistic women that want to date NT men are easily able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:34 PM
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It's not a fair assumption. And you don't have to make assumptions, there is data indicating that autistic women aren't attracted to autistic men, and that for neurotypical men autism in women isn't as much of a dealbreaker as autism in men is a dealbreaker for neurotypical and neurodivergent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:09 PM
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It's probably good mix of entitled coomer manlets with no discipline whose lives been minimized into clicks on their PC and taps on their phone, but also men who are desperate, hurting and afflicted aiming entirely the wrong way These are the same people, jackass. No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!". If anything, society should be grateful these men are impotent with learned helplessness and "no discipline" becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:51 AM
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i never said and don't think men think that Oh really? You were already called out on it I love that “gamers” is in there with “low income” and “lives with their parents”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:36 PM
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"women don't have hobbies" is not even close to "the things you like make you an unlovable loser" It's also reference to things that aren't hobbies, such as scrolling social media, watching whatever mainstream media slop, or eating at restaurants. Not actual hobbies. And men just say those women are boring at worst, not that women are unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:08 PM
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The misandry is so blatant and society just accepts it lmao. Imagine if men en masse told women that their interests that were dominantly female made them losers if those interests provided no utility to men. We'd never hear the end of it from feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:07 PM
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They are probably not, "objectively" speaking. Look at the animal kingdom, and it's usually the males that look more aesthetic than the women. And in all those sexually dimorphic species, they are still usually attracted to their females than the males. How many species where the females are more aesthetic than the males? None come to mind. We're biased because we are humans, so I'm going to make an assumption from what I see when I'm a less biased third party and assume that it probably applies…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:41 PM
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I only see the argument that men will be arrested for approaching women online. It's exaggeration, but there are likely consequences that men should be worried about: -getting physically assaulted because a white knight -getting banned from the establishment, which might be your regular hangout -false claims, which can run the gamut of losing friends, being banned from establishments, getting fired, or being arrested. It's like saying women shouldn't have to be afraid of being raped because some…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:18 PM
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I remember when I said that men are more open to dating bisexual women because they want to have threesomes and not because they are champions for LGBT rights. That's because both of these are wrong. Men are fine with bisexual women because other women doesn't mentally parse as a red flag, as far as body count is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 01:51 PM
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So in other words, you're even more aware that he hasn't been found guilty yet than I was but you're just assuming he is guilty anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:05 PM
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Just to be clear: Andrew Tate has been charged with sex trafficking and rape. People really be writing this shit as if it means the person is guilty. If this was true, why is he out of prison? Oh what's that, there was not enough evidence? Then why assume he is guilty?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:07 AM
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Arguable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:04 AM
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You're a woman. No shit your experience is different. Since you're not male, you have no fucking clue what the atmosphere of forced politeness, indifference, or distancing towards yourself feels like. Women are nearly unconditionally included and received positively. Leave it to a bluepiller to see such a disparity in socialization, practically segregation, and conclude "hmm, this must be happening because men are bad. There's no other explanation for this".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:22 PM
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I don't think it's autism, or people suddenly stopped understanding socialization. It's that there's a kind of assortative socialization, similar to the club scene. Men have to pay to get in ( bring value to the circle), women get in for free. Reflected in the wider society, men just don't have enough value to compete with celebrities ( including local ones ) while women don't -have- to have value other than a minimum level of physical attractiveness. This is also exacerbated by social media. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:39 PM
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