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Purge - CMVDora_Bowl/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 10:22 PM
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Purge Week!Dora_Bowl/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:52 PM
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These examples were used to highlight to the OP that their demand for mathematically rigorous reasoning to justify evolution psychology is a flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:53 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/RzPyO1SUJU You might be interested in this OP. I would really encourage red-pillers who love to throw around evo-psych just-so stories to go and read through a proof-based mathematics textbook (maybe Analysis I by Terence Tao) to learn what real rigorous reasoning looks like. Evo-psych is simply not it. We know events like the Holocaust, 9/11 and Vietnam war happened and we do not need rigorous mathematical proof for this. We do not need theorems and ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:51 PM
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I will find it endlessly funny that Red Pillers will hold extreme skepticism to humanities, but then eat up evolutionary psychology as completely true and without significant issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:42 PM
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I am puzzled about your earlier reply to t he other person, you said social deviance is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:49 PM
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Why would that make it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:42 PM
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Do you believe it people considered eating oatmeal abhorrent and nobody would want that person in their community that eating oatmeal would be unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:38 PM
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This cannot be real, we all know, no man makes above $60’000
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:27 PM
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I did not see anything about a just world fallacy in that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:00 PM
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It does does necessarily follow that because an individual is being judged harshly that it is bigotry. People on the spectrum can be difficult to deal with and your reply reads mostly like people ought to just deal with unpleasant social situation, which seems completely unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:59 PM
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We've had the same anti-science bullshit for over two decades It will be different this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:56 AM
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think that the people who are hesitant to trust governments on this aren't without basis Something important to cover here is that most people's beliefs, from their own perspective, typically have a basis. People who believe that scented oils can prevent cancer have a basis for their belief and can even make arguments for it. Like I could say I believe cinnamon essential oils cure cancer because I know someone who sniffed them daily and their cancer disappeared. Vaccine skepticism is unwarranted…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:55 AM
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I do not know what you are going on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:35 PM
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Just make your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:32 PM
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No, because there is not a global epidemic of measles and mumps right now, these are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 07:31 PM
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Is “I’m vaccinated” going to be the new virtue signalling thing people put into their dating profiles in lieu of a personality or any actual hobbies or interests? Letting someone else know you are immune to a contagious virus is not virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 06:01 PM
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Where in the post did they do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:18 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/n7bf87/why_should_a_woman_have_sex_with_you_what_do_you/gxbvy0y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Nobody SHOULD do anything, except for follow what they want to do I see this statement on here a lot(discord and subreddit) that the only thing people should do is what they want to. I do not particularly like this because: 1) There are things I want to do, that I think I should not do. What I wanted to do last night was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:03 PM
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Crypto had no barrier of entry for gender. You could of thrown in $100 7 years ago and made bank. You could of thrown $1000 six months ago of various coins and hit x20 on your money. Retirement money. Who do you think buys the memecoins in the pump and dumps? You are not talking about the other side of the transaction here, where someone loses their money to the magical coins because they were the ones who bought it at the top then crashed down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:15 PM
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All the data we have(discord and surveys) says that men outnumber women 2:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:57 PM
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Okay and most men will not use it so, so nothing wrong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:47 PM
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Not a bad statement, just a dull observation like saying "all people are great artists" because they have the potential to be, no one is going to disagree with that, but it is rarely going to tell or explain what humans are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:43 PM
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Reread it, it was not about a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:39 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fbzfk6/what_are_womens_opnion_regarding_redpill_hypergamy/fj7n02w/ What else about RP do you think "can't explain a lot of human behavior, are logically incoherent, or based on false data"? All the things they call "outliers", which is just a word for "my theory is terrible", it is a good concession though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:24 PM
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Users on here who identify themselves as Blue Pill do not really concern themselves with what "TRP means" by the word, most people on here who call themselves Blue Pill just use it as a way to signal their disagreement to the discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:03 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/iqcoq4/is_anyone_in_this_subreddit_even_blue_pilled/g4rep54/ I consider myself Blue Pill in the capacity I reject gender essentialism and advocate for abolitionism, I reject hypergamy(in most definitions at least), I reject a lot of the Evolutionary Psychology that is used and the studies, I reject that there are “male” or “female” nature’s in a certain sense and I think some of the history, philosophy and other things with regards to the humani…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:57 PM
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You must have made an error here, no one mentioned feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:10 PM
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I am a self-identified feminist; I have read a lot of philosophical work on feminism and have participated in some activity conducive to my feminism. Ask me anything apposite to feminism, and I will best answer with my personal perspective on the issue or if the question is about another perspective, I can do the best to answer that. Ask away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:07 PM
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The men’s rights movement disproportionately focuses on problems higher class men face(sexual assault allegations, alimony etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 09:04 PM
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It confused me how exactly civil code can promise jury's leniency to the accused of criminal violence. This goes a bit about my knowledge to effectively commentate on, but I think the first part in which she says something roughly about the right to take the law into your own hands was abolished, that it is implicit in the Napoleonic code that husband's who do decide to take justice into their own hands will be shown lenience. I am actually going to take a bit more of a look into this. I have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:28 PM
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What are you trying to say here, that she copied Engels ideas and botched them? Curious to know which representation of Engels she used that you think she gets incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:39 PM
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Generally I will be friends with people who share similar interests to me, so I do not specifically seek out male friendships. What I do with my friends is usually discuss or do the similar interest with them(or both at the same time).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:56 PM
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Do you think that avoiding relationships that don't make one's life better/that overall don't have more positive effect on a person is entitlement? No, and I see no reason why it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:44 PM
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What was your argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 07:59 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:56 PM
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There are some studies that suggest there is an implicit bias against women, then also when women negotiate they are seen as pushy, unappreciated or overly aggressive, while men would be perceived as assertive. I can show you the research regarding this if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:46 PM
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I am not suggesting that at all. I do imagine, ideally, most companies would prefer having women work at them for various reasons other than pay though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:42 PM
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I agree, women slut shame each other a lot more than men do, but it does not mean it is a problem. Women can be(and sometimes are) misogynists. The second applies to men as well, and I would think that it is oppressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 05:41 PM
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Slut shaming Gender pay gap(which when adjusted for properly, is estimated to be somewhere between 4 to 8%) Expectations to take on certain roles, for example people might think there is something wrong with a woman who has no children as 30
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:24 PM
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He's controversial because he takes a hard-line approach not accepting lazy reasoning Considering he does a lot of this himself, that is kind of a terrible take.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 06:17 PM
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That is just what half The Red Pill is; misogyny and bitterness window dressed as scientific and rational, but fails to do so on every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:06 PM
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I did, and it seems like Gilligan's Island is not the only fiction cited in that post. But considering it is a Manosphere blog, I was not expecting much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:01 PM
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The 80/20 rule does not apply to dating. 20% of men are not dating 80% of women, or having sex with them, or anything along those lines as there is little to no evidence of this occurring. I guess your post could make for a fun thought experiment, but the reality does not really happen. Before someone quotes the OkCupid statistic, it was just that women rate 80% of men on OkCupid below average, this says nothing about who they are dating or having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:00 PM
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Gilligan's island, is that not fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:58 PM
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Well it is true that vasectomies are technically reversible, there is complications and these complications only further with time. The problem with comparing vasectomies to women's birth control, is that, while women's birth control does have complications, it is a lot more accessible and has a lot less risk. “it’s expensive” - not more expensive than an unplanned child with the wrong person. Ideally, a man should at least be able to afford a sperm retrieval and IVF treatment when more establis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:24 PM
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I don't know where men here came up with the notion that "Chad gets harems". This is surely a hyperbolic interpretation of what people on here mean when they say "Chad gets harems". Do you really think that people mean "Chads" have 20 wives and womanly servants like rich powerful men do? What people are trying to refer to here is that attractive men have more access to women(hence why you see the term "soft harem").
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:23 PM
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It would need to be heavily moderated to keep out certain people concern trolling or looking to debate off-the-hinge topics with no interest in it. But if that was in place, I think it would look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 07:30 PM
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I would say the norms are a lot different, I had a moderator actually warn me about my low-effort comment in their megathread. Decided to test it out this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:02 AM
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I remember having a conversation with someone complaining about how the teacher said something along the lines of, “white men have historically fetishized indigenous and foreign women”. I asked them if they thought it was untrue and they responded with something along the lines of, “even though it is true, this should not be taught!”. This kind of rhetoric comes off as a power discourse to me; the people complaining about it usually are not doing it for reasons they think it is untrue, but rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:26 PM
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There is nothing contradictory about these 2 views.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:32 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ifar7l/evolutionary_psychologys_take_on_womens_long_term/g2phcp1/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:49 PM
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The latter
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:46 PM
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Unpopular, as in not a lot of people on here share these views: Gender is a social construct Evolutionary Psychology is a poor theory Controversial, as in these views would be divisive: Sex is a reward for men Casual sex, in general, is probably bad for a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:56 PM
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The political stance would be more aptly named as "anti-abortion", because that seems to be the stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 08:11 PM
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Some of them were adults that previously attended the University, but yeah, I would hardly say this is anything conclusive or has the implications people might assign to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:36 PM
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People in that post are kind of jumping the gun on this. The study is not really too conclusive about anything(as usual in psychology) and it does not mean these differences are biological or innate. It should also be noted that one of the studies involved a narrow group(students from University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire) and asked them to imagine how much they liked doing it. These redditors really need to calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:27 PM
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Love is agent relative- a person's reasons for love are usually different than another. Love also gives us a reason to treat someone different in itself. For example, if someone loves someone, it might be a reason for them to try and risk their lives to save them. You can see differences in platonic love vs. romantic love in the reasons they do give people. One large contrast here is with regards to sex and how people might feel special duties towards their partners that entail them doing sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:17 PM
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In these cases with my friends, it was hardly making an assumption of interest. It was more along the lines of literally thinking they were interested, and then lashing out because they were lead on. One of my friends got pages of text messages threatening to rape her and how the person was going to commit suicide. In another case one of my friends had someone destroy something of hers in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:40 PM
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This is why I think it's so hilarious when women claim they want to be 'treated like men' then cry 'misogyny' when it happens. A man's world IS defined by antagonism. These are not cases of being "treated like men". I have no idea where you are getting this from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:30 AM
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Being disagreeable with men is a good idea. I know a few of my friends who are too nice to men, and as a result the men usually take it as interest, make romantic advances on them and proceed to become extremely violent or vitriolic when rejected. One of my friends found it quite alarming that her munificent gesture of patiently explaining a topic she was passionate about to someone and they mistook it for interest. Women are much better off taking a detached indifference when dealing with this …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 08:25 PM
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You ought to convert to Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:18 AM
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I have no idea what point you are trying to make, you seem all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 12:08 AM
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I do not know what this has to do with Biden starting a war, or did the definition change because you did not get your orange guy re-elected?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 02:13 PM
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Biden’s started zero wars too? This is quite confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 01:41 AM
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Joe Biden or Trump, they will get bombed. Even if someone like Sanders won, I would have no doubts he would be dropping bombs too. I am sure the media and intellectuals are all doing a Third Reich style justification for Biden bombing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 08:18 PM
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In short, he wants to pass on his genetics; this seems to be a really male thing to me that I cannot understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:09 PM
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http://www.smbc-comics.com/smbcforum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4771 relevant to a post that was made today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:59 PM
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What are PPDs thoughts on adoption? I am perfectly fine with it, and if my spouse was, I would have just adopted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:58 PM
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I find these statistics misleading in the way they are represented because they typically include things like rent, utilities, home repair etc. in the total calculation that it costs to raise a child. The way you present this also does not count how much of this cost is necessary for raising a child as well, so framing it as "out of reach" here might not necessarily be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 04:46 PM
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The issue here is that people are not debating what you said above, but they are debating about a theory that explains what is happening. Red Pill is a theory about what makes attractive people attractive, a lot of people disagree with this and hence a debate happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 03:35 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/i03pv7/why_wants_to_truly_love_someone_anyway/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:23 AM
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I do not believe in "true" love, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 03:20 PM
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This ought to just be called the “UMC discussion post”. I notice 80%+ of class discussion here is discussing what constitutes as some small amount of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:54 PM
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Motherhood is still mostly socially constructed. The idea of mothers - and by extension motherhood - being something like nurturing, caring, understanding, or we can take more concrete examples of how mothers are expected to drive their children around, change diapers and feed children. None of this is some fact of the universe and men are capable of doing most of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 01:31 PM
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That might not help the issue, people here would just not tag themselves and would have an incentive to because people would discredit their argument based on the flair. This is already an issue with the gendered and pilled ones, making geographical location will just make this problem worse. If the concern is about knowing who you are arguing with and if their perspective is “valid”, we would need age and marriage length tags as well. There are 50 year old people on here who have 20+ years of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:56 PM
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I am a moderator on here(PPD-Angel), if you wanted to make the subreddit I would certainly allow you to advertise it on here(perhaps other moderators would not).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:48 PM
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Why not take the initiative and make it yourself? There is not exactly some high barrier for entry for making a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:43 PM
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Toxic masculinity is when masculinity becomes self-destructive or harmful to other people. Toxic masculinity is bad and is something men ought to avoid by definition. Aggression, assertiveness, and emotionless All of these behaviors can be positive though, or you can imagine negative consequences for these. Being emotionless might work to get someone through a difficult time for example, but then doing that to the point you dull your own emotional processes and ignore them is harmful. Being aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:24 AM
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What do you think about the fact some women are attracted to violent people, just for the sake of them being violent or law breakers? Who are these women? I am going to assume they are not exactly okay themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:34 PM
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In my experience you find almost zero actual people who adhere to libertarianism, which is why it might seem weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 04:22 AM
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Confidence is masculine. I would also think men are attracted to confident and assertive women just from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 11:08 PM
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Yes, like if Ted Cruz froze to death I would not care really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:12 PM
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Not doubting this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:58 PM
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This person was not some kind of American hero or anything. https://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/rush-limbaughs-most-outrageous-moments-25-msna74822 It is not particularly tragic, even if you did agree with him, he has people like Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager to carry his torch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 09:39 PM
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Never said this, but even if they did it does not make it okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:48 PM
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I don’t recall the comments after Sandy but I definitely don’t recall negative comments about the California fires. Even if there was negative comments made about the California fires(which I am almost certain there was), the commenter is acting like this is some kind of justice being done for that and millions of people in Texas deserve to suffer because of it(even if they did not make those comments themselves).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:12 PM
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No, you see, everyone in Texas needs to be collectively punished for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 08:11 PM
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Northerners get to enjoy people dying, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:57 PM
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Kind of disgusted at watching people(mainly liberals) laughing at Texas losing power because it is a red state.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:21 PM
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The Progressive political movement was (and still is) aligned with the Eugenics movement, pushed for laws later embraced by the Nazi party of Germany, and has a deep history of racism. Yeah, the Nazis pointed towards the Californian sterilization program with their own. The difference was the Nazi program, if I recall correctly, was a lot more centralized than the one in California, but they both had similar outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:14 PM
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Another way you could look at this is that racism is unjust discrimination. You can imagine situations where it is justified to discriminate someone based on their race such as casting them for a film or having them work as an undercover agent to infiltrate a gang.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:09 PM
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Libertarianism is not about self-interest, even if people might believe it for self-interested reasons(this is probably the case for a lot of political philosophies or voting patterns). Libertarians just proport to believe in strong negative rights and almost no positive ones; they want less restrictions on what people can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:00 PM
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When assessing someone's political beliefs the reasons why they hold the beliefs matters a lot more than the beliefs they hold. Libertarians and progressives both hold that sex work ought to be decriminalized/legalized. Libertarians would cite there reasoning as it being unjustified legal overreach over markets while progressives would frame it as a women's rights issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:46 PM
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http://brents.faculty.unlv.edu//research/socpersp.pdf Page 324, last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:44 PM
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But apparently, it’s racism on the part of the viewers. The white girl loses “value” to the audience, and they’re less willing to pay to see a girl they know is with black guys I read some report about the brothels in Nevada a while ago and this was something that was discussed in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:28 PM
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It is going to be interesting how it will play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:05 PM
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A post on the sex worker subreddit would be sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:59 PM
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Not really asking for a peer reviewed study here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:46 PM
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How a prostitute would be forced to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:25 PM
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do that say " a specific law would be implemented forcing prostitutes to serve all races"? how legalizing prostitution would lead to prostitutes being forced to serve all races etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:21 PM
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how legalizing prostitution would lead to prostitutes being forced to serve all races etc Okay then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:08 PM
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You can link to the law that forces prostitutes to have sex then? This is the main contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:05 PM
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I certainly did not claim they are exempt from discrimination laws, but rather there are no specific ordinances to my knowledge that are anti-discrimination or practices for that matter specific to these brothels, in fact some women who work in them openly refuse to have sex with black men. If there is some law in Nevada that requires the people in brothels to have sex with someone, I would be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:01 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/comments/bjkihl/no_black_men/ You can search "black men" in their search bar and find plenty more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:01 PM
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Usually it is black males.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:45 PM
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i just had a very interesting convo about this and how legalizing prostitution would lead to prostitutes being forced to serve all races This would not happen. The scope of anti-discrimination practices in The United States does not seem to indicate someone would be forced to have sex with someone and in practice where there are legal brothels(Nevada) there exists no anti-discrimination laws or practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:39 PM
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Difficult to gauge because there is not a lot of posts about politics on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:59 PM
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They’re progressives You might be assuming they are. Did any of them talk about the "bake the cake controversy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:54 PM
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There’s also a Level of hypocrisy because they’re against businesses right to deny services in other sectors How do you know this? Do they talk about this? It would not surprise me however, considering some of the other hypocritical and ridiculous things I have seen sex workers talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:50 PM
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Lauren Wolfe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 05:47 AM
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Most conservatives are decent people, the real issue is reactionaries using the label to make their beliefs more palatable to the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:11 AM
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The latter I was referring to was not cancelled by trans women, I can get her name later if you want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:02 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:12 AM
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It is about as real as alpha male, so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:05 AM
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The cancel culture stuff is a problem, I can agree with that, but the right certainly does not sincerely care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:02 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 01:01 AM
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There was some attempt to “cancel” J.K. Rowling and there was a successful cancellation of some other woman not too long ago too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:30 PM
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She compared the way conservatives are “persecuted” right now, to the way that Jews were persecuted during the Holocaust. Before that she was posting some anti-mask rhetoric and some incident involving pronouns in her twitter biography. The entire discourse around cancel culture just shows the proto-fascist tendencies that the “right” here has. On the one hand they support this ultra brutal free market capitalism, on the other hand someone getting fired from their job due to this is unacceptable…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:23 PM
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This is more of a way of calling someone lazy, the video games are not necessarily what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:23 AM
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Are there any women who actually enjoy videogames? Here? There is quite a few. I often see on this sub and elsewhere women complaining about and deriding guys who play videogames On this subreddit? I have doubts you see this on here often, considering it is a topic that is rarely brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 10:58 AM
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You’re literally trying to tell me the dictionary is wrong What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:50 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:23 PM
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He combined a bad argument against abortion with taxation is theft. Extremely memeworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:18 PM
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He can just kick out the wife and child from his house, the fetus cannot leave. Taxation is necessarily theft is also a pretty difficult position to defend as it begs the question that you are entitled to all of your pre-taxed income and that you would even have that property in lieu of a political apparatus that requires money to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:17 PM
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20 weeks for doctors advice probably means that if a medical professional recommends it due to a terrible birth defect or a high chance of it harming the mother it is legally permissible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:11 PM
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Just going to point out the “top 20% rule” is not some kind of fact of the universe, there are other ways it can be distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:10 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276597069_Violent_Female_Victimization_Trends_across_Europe_Canada_and_the_United_States#pf30 Little work has sought to establish whether the homicide decline is affecting both male and female victims, and in the same or different ways, and whether patterns vary between countries. Little cross-national work has been done to establish whether rape rates are generally rising or falling and to explain similarities and differences between countries. The pictu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:52 AM
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It might be the case it will go up(and down) short term but overall it has declined significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:18 PM
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Sexual assault - among other violent crime - is dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:09 PM
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Derek Parfit, Russ Shafer-Landau and Nora Roberts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:53 AM
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Anyway it is important to note that the love interest(Christian Grey) is a successful businessman, billionaire and described to be quite physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:27 AM
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You read the book right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:26 PM
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What about 50 Shades of Grey?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 06:16 PM
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They probably want attention, remember they are "lusting" after them when they become "famous". Do women secretly want to be violently used by a sick person with no sense of morality? Probably not, considering most women are not lusting after these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 03:32 PM
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I would assume barely any.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:37 AM
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At some point though it is justified to remove someone from a platform and I think what Trump said reached that point. My question becomes at one point is twitter justified in censoring someone to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:34 PM
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It would be more fair to say that people disagree with it because of what they are protesting about. If people stormed the capitol building over not getting covid stimulus checks it would be seen as a lot different by most.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:29 PM
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Trump is actually banned from Tik Tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:27 PM
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People dislike her for her views, not her skin color. But I doubt Candace Owens even believes what she says, considering there is evidence of her outright telling lies. She is just like an actor playing a character.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 06:23 PM
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How would you say it was in line with it, any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:35 PM
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This logic is misleading. The composite rate is still relevant to those who are not married for deciding whether they should ever get married. This just creates another issue. If the divorce rate is 50%, for instance, surely that would not mean an individual person would have a 50% chance of divorcing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:59 AM
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Many people say that divorce rates are up because people aren’t taking commitment as seriously as previous generations The divorce rate is dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:56 AM
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If you take the discord server numbers to indicate anything, it also shows it is 2:1 gender ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:50 PM
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Why are there way more Q4W posts than Q4M ones? A lot of the QuestionForWomen posts are secretly CMVs where the OP wants to push a view on people or they are just posts that ought to be relegated to r/askwomen, but might be a bit to odd to post there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:49 PM
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It’s a foundational principle of libertarian philosophy. If you’re unfamiliar with this A lot more interested in the arguments as opposed to just saying things, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:39 PM
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Your blanket railing against a libertarian viewpoint I am not railing against the libertarian viewpoint, I am just saying that it does not exist in the real world- you might as well discuss the economic theory of Middle Earth at that point. But if you want a place to start, how about maintaining the principle of voluntarism when applied to economic activity? I am not entirely sure what this entails, what is the argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:02 PM
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You could just name a few, that would help. You do know more about this than I do, so you ought to have no issue, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:45 PM
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Which arguments do you want me to address?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:24 PM
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Adam Smith would probably disagree with modern libertarians, as he did believe in government intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:19 PM
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The “actual” ideas are kind of irrelevant because you find little of it outside of the Internet and almost non in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:07 PM
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A lot of libertarians parrot their opinions from people who are funded by think-tanks for large businesses, so they are going to shill for those businesses even if they do not realize it. It is precisely these "ultra-rich" people who use their power to influence politics that fund libertarianism. I would not take libertarianism as a sincere political position at this point, because 9/10 times these people are just repeating the talking points fed to them from some propaganda system. The Koch Bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 02:31 PM
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A better argument is that if it were true that people are not having children due to financial reasons, you would expect as people make more money, they would have more children. But it appears that birth rates drop as income increases. Even in poorer countries the people with higher incomes have lower birth rates. There are obviously some other factors involved in these decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 09:24 PM
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You got me, the official feminist Instagram page says this. I will immediately notify my failure to the CEO of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 09:17 PM
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The concept of democracy, fascism or socialism is unfalsifiable, but there is not really an issue with that. A question like “do we live in a democracy” has an answer similar to “do we live in a patriarchy” does as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 09:16 PM
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Patriarchy is just a way of describing specific institutions, norms and ideas. No one thinks there is some cabal of men sitting around you can identify as the patriarchy and a lot of the structures are not really intentional. Rape culture, assuming women are in subordinate positions and toxic masculinity are examples of what would fall under this. The mischaracterization that anti-feminists make is a conspiracy theory of course, but the overwhelming majority of feminists simply do not see it tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 06:12 PM
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These tech companies kind of know what they are doing. For instance, Facebook claims that it is a neutral platform when it suits them and a publisher when it does not, so it just varies based on the lawsuit. It would not really surprise me if twitter did the same thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:03 PM
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I do not really see this user advocating for government regulation, you can even see on the comment below he is encouraging people to just leave those social media platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:59 PM
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Phobias are irrational fear/hatred Homophobia does not refer to being afraid of homosexuals, but rather prejudice. The term is a bit misleading(I think this was intentional) to call people who disliked homosexuals as being afraid of them rather than other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:32 PM
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Is it racist in your opinion to only want to date or filter out a certain race? Transphobic to not want to date a trans person? Homophobic to not experiment with men etc? Bigotry has to do with discriminating against people for what are morally irrelevant characteristics. The race someone is could matter to someone just as any other aesthetic quality could such as curly hair, brown eyes or long hair. The same would just apply to those other 2 things. Sometimes people can have irrational reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:31 PM
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When people use the word "average" on here what they really mean is "most", so I do not see this as that much of an issue. You will notice when people say "the average man cannot get into a relationship" they back the argument up with statistics showing that a large number- sometimes a majority of men are not in relationships. This might not make sense, but this is typically what is meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:27 PM
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Toxic masculinity is a set of negative traits, behavior or ideas, so things like misogyny, arrogance, violence, homophobia, hyper competitiveness etc. But it is typically the issue being an excess of these types of traits that are traditionally masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:28 PM
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No, I mean you could just make this a general discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:02 PM
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All things being equal, women generally prefer men who are a little taller than them. I do not see why this needs to be a question for women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 12:19 PM
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Which study is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 11:37 AM
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Too many people are too stupid to distinguish between objective vs subjective ‘I’ve never met, seen x, so it is bot true’ ‘I like short guys, so women generalt preferring large men is false’ ‘it is easy to get laid, incels don’t exist’ These are not subjective statements though, these are people using their personal experience as a way to argue for something objective(even if they are false).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:53 AM
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The paper the OP posted is directly challenging the view of the one you linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:49 AM
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What does feminism have to do with false rape accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:21 AM
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Then, many women seem to brand this line of thinking as absurd and ridiculous I understand the line of reasoning, but it does not not even seem that absurd. Men seem to gain a lot of their self worth based on the amount of women that want them- women having sex with men or wanting to have sex with them is how a lot of men seem to measure themselves. It actually is true that women reward men with sex, but from the woman's perspective it is simultaneously true that they are not rewarding them. Ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:59 PM
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It’s definitely intriguing, do you use the principles irl? Can I ask what political beliefs you hold? I am not an Objectivist, I have just read quite a bit of Ayn Rand. With politics my philosophy on it is a lot more conservative, but the reality of the situation causes me to side with socialists or progressives on a lot of actual issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:59 PM
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Ayn is the founder of the philosophical system objectivism, still unsure exactly what this entails Objectivism is a name for Ayn Rand's philosophical system. It is named "Objectivism" because she takes it from the tripartite of: intrinsic, subjective and objective. Intrinsic means phenomenon that are external to the mind, think of something like h2o or brass. A subjective phenomenon is dependent on the mind, so think of something like pain or love, that exists, arguably, in the mind. The objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 07:30 PM
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That subreddit is de-facto ran by Red Pill men and needs to appease them. Giving women advice about having terrible behavior would just make them look bad to the men who have a say in how the subreddit is ran and make it look more like r/femaledatingstrategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:56 PM
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If no, why? It does happen sometimes, but in general no. The spaces where introducing women ruins them is if it is some kind of escapism from real life like an extremely nerdy hobby or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:13 PM
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Why do women gravitate to these? As far as I can tell there is not a lot of empirical research done on this yet- at most you can find a list of twitter users following the podcasts by gender, but there are a few reasons I can think of: The crimes presented in these podcasts disproportionately happen to women, which might make them more interested in it The way the podcasts are structured might appeal more to the demographic of women, it might not actually be the topics but the way those topics a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:01 AM
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In the past decade, it seems that there has been an explosion in the number of men who simply are not engaged with society at large Is there? There's a lot of guys these days who are not seeking out employment The unemployment rate in the United States was below 4% before COVID-19. who are not learning any skills I have no idea what this means? who are abstaining from relationships with women Young men abstaining from dating women is actually something I do not see as that much of an issue becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 05:14 PM
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Catcalling is done by people of a certain social class, so you are not generally going to see everyone doing it. If business executives could see women out there windows when they had meetings and catcalled them, I would highly suspect it would not be that much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 04:58 PM
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Request to allow rad fem content here to better understand their positions. There are not a lot of them here so they would never make content, the only thing you will see is non-feminists making posts about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:19 AM
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What do you mean “oppressed class”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:34 PM
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Tbh, didn't think it was a derogatory term. Thought it was just like alt-right Alt-righters think this is a derogatory term to, that is why they often rebrand themselves as "libertarian" or "classic liberal".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:31 PM
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No one is going to label themselves as a social justice warrior because it is a derogatory term, asking is not going to help too much. If you are asking users on here if they want to label someone as one, you run into the issue of them just using it as some shaming word for someone who believes any progressive values- which is in itself vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:29 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:12 PM
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I am sure there are people shilling on there, but probably just for themselves like r/pennystocks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:57 PM
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You do not even need to make that argument u/YoMomas_azz’s argument just fails to take into account any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:06 AM
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I decided to look up this quote, it was not by Emma Goldman, but rather someone named Michel Houellebecq. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none Does Houellebeqc think that this was not the case before? Comparing dating markets to economic models is always ridiculous and Houellebeqc seems to ahead of his time. Anyway we will carry this idea on, suppose someone had a piece of artwork that they wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:39 PM
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Popular music and pop entertainment is something that doesn't really acquire money in the same as they did in the old days of traveling shows, circuses, and theatrical productions. A celebrity today is also a model, someone who can be used to advertise certain clothes and products. Culture still existed before this though, this is not some modern phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:18 PM
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Some users on PPD doubt the existence of the female social matrix You mean someone you made up thinks this. Can y'all explain what's the deal with the female social matrix and how it affects the dating landscape? It is just a social hierarchy for women, there are many different forms of social hierarchies women participate in(even gender mixed ones) so giving some exhaustive description of it would take too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:19 PM
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context or pretext, we men are not deceived by that Which is why women ought to lie about it, because no matter the number, men will make some irrational situations up in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:53 PM
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The OP edited it out, so I am just going to ignore this analogy now as I think it is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:47 PM
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Would you want a car with high mileage? So then N-count does not matter with this analogy, but rather the amount of times she has had sex matters. What would the difference in this analogy be between say one person driving a car for 10'000 miles and 20 people driving it totaling to 10'000 miles? Putting this terrible analogy aside, no woman on here thinks that N-count does not matter, but rather they think the number devoid of context is meaningless. Would men rather get with a woman who has an …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:13 PM
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What does the city do if they defy lockdown orders?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:47 PM
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Men's traditional gender role of killing spiders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:44 PM
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Women can afford to be more selective with sex because men make the bar for how easy it is to have sex with them really low or how a lot of men are willing to settle for the first decent woman that asks them. The same applies for relationships, even if men's standards increase a bit, they are still flooding women with offers and most women do know that men are really easy. This plays out in a real market with money, take OnlyFans or any parasocial platform(twitch.tv is a good example) men are wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:29 PM
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What did you want to discuss here exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:28 PM
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Someone could catch Trump using the washroom and not washing his hands after and it would become news now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:07 PM
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If you have sex with someone knowing full well it is going to be a one time thing, but the other person believes they are embarking on a relationship, I don’t think you can really consider the sex consensual. You could just turn this around on the other person though because they are only having sex with the other party because they think it is going to result in a relationship. Another crucial point that people miss here too is that even if something is done without consent does not mean it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:49 PM
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About what we are teaching now a days, I agree with her: people don't know history, they act as if we don't have a history nor consequences for our actions Yes, but making these grand narratives of history or learning broad overviews of historical events does not usually yield true representations of them, this would not fix the outlined issues and might just make them even worse because people might think they know, when in reality there is a lot more nuance. She gave an example of having a cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 07:06 PM
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Is that the Modern Times one? I think a lot of the problems they identify are real, but they misdiagnose or give monocausal explanations for them. It has been a while since I watched it, but a few things I think they got wrong: Paglia has a complaint about university professors focusing on specific areas than grand narratives and thinks it is because professors are all divas and crying. I think the real reason why this is the case is because as time goes disciplines become much more technical an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 06:09 PM
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Okay, who else thinks that egalitarianism means that you treat all people in completely the same way without any difference between strangers, friends, family and your beloved ones? Where has this idea come from? I am not entirely sure what this entails. I think there is a sense in which we ought to treat others no different than our loved ones, but there are obviously other duties we would have towards those other people. Where this idea came from is probably some strain of thought in the West …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 05:30 PM
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If they are dating you for your income and you are lying about it, then I see that as a bad thing to do. As far as I know lying about STDs is illegal. I do not think lying about income in the context of dating should be illegal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:28 PM
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I am not going to read this terribly formatted post. But anyway I hope this addresses the post: There is no universal age someone hits the wall. Some people will hit the wall at 40, some at 30, some at 20 etc. It is going to happen to most people if they live long enough, but generally men have a lot more time because most of what makes them attractive is not tied to physical characteristics, but other things like social standing or wealth, which increases by age so it a lot easier for them to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:06 PM
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Lying about STDs, income or anything else that is relevant to the other person Pursuing someone where there is a power imbalance and using that power imbalance to your advantage(see some age gap relationships or relationships with mentally disabled people) or in most cases using it to promise a promotion at work or an implied threat of job loss if they do not comply etc. Taking advantage of emotionally vulnerable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:03 PM
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I have read the book. I did not find it particularly interesting because I already agree with the premise of the book(that the division of labor in the household is uneven). NPR has a good review you can read. https://www.npr.org/transcripts/722173367
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 11:45 PM
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Impossible to know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:35 PM
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1) Women are not monolithic and have varying preferences 2) People can say one thing and the other party can misunderstand what they are saying because there is something implicit in the sentence, for instance when men say "I like blonde girls" I assume they mean blonde women who are attractive, adult women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 03:02 PM
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Not really annoyed, I just disagree with it entirely. Well in fact I disagree with the looks/personality dichotomy as it is misleading because you cannot separate the two so clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:56 PM
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Probably, but the above observation is extremely trivial. It is just saying effectively nothing. The fact is that most people can be persuaded to do anything if the circumstances are there, but whether or not most people currently would is a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:01 PM
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So it appears to me that the majority of infidelity may be externally influenced, but please discuss! I do not think the majority of infidelity is going to be externally influenced as you put, but people will certainly use it as an excuse as to why they cheated. It does not seem to follow to me that someone mistreating you or having pressure on you necessitates cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:00 PM
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Given that only about >20% of Americans even make $100,000 in annual income AFAIK, most of the advices here are, by definition, entirely worthless to the majority of people regardless of their physical attributes Okay, but wait, you need to pick one here. If the people here are overwhelmingly a demographic of "small capitalists and labor aristocrats"(which there is not a lot of evidence that this is the case) then they would be giving advice to people of the same demographic. If this is the case…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 01:42 PM
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It is a betrayal of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 04:23 AM
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Probably a variety of reasons. Asking them directly might yield a better answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 11:06 PM
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I do not accept Evolutionary Psychology as a way to describe human behavior. You can read here for a summary of some of the reasons I do not like the project I am writing my bachelor thesis on evolutionary biology and moral epistemology, so I have been doing a lot of reading on evolutionary biology. An error I notice people make is that they assume that natural selection is the only way evolution happens; there is genetic drift, mutation and gene flow; not just natural selection. When I am done …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 01:39 AM
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I know most of us live as though free will exists, and that if we REALLY take seriously the idea that it may not, it has very profound (and arguably devastating) practical consequences. It is unclear it is even possible to live if free will did not exist. I do think that if someone believes in libertarian or compatibilism they might view things a lot different, but then just believing in some hard determinism seems impossible. Like I can say I do not believe in free will, but then if I walk into…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:12 PM
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Who is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 05:08 PM
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Philosophy of the idea interests me less than practical application of it. You might like this then: https://www.pnas.org/content/114/38/10071#:~:text=Such%20research%20has%20shown%20that,and%20academic%20settings%20(17).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 04:33 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:52 PM
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Hate debating smart people I am not that well read on this subject actually, it is just that people use free will in different ways and some of those ways do not really make any sense. People actually do disagree about what the definition of free will means(see libertarians and compatibilists) and what is trying to be described when speaking about free will. This is why I would push for a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:42 PM
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by control I mean free will Still, I do not know what "control" in this context means. Who or what is controlling my actions? The term “free will” has emerged over the past two millennia as the canonical designator for a significant kind of control over one’s actions. I assume this is from the SEP. The issue with this definition starting right off is that there is disagreement over this definition(see the difference between libertarians and compatibilists). I would ask you what you think of dete…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:39 PM
2

What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:46 PM
2

No, I am asking what you mean by "control" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:45 PM
1

then you have absolutely no control over whether or not you're successful in relationship. What does this mean to have control then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:20 PM
2

What's your thoughts on free will? I do not know what you mean by free will here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:20 PM
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This is not what people mean by equality though, not a lot of people mean "exactly the same" with regards to skills, strength or anything like that, but mean equality in the sense when making a moral decision that only morally relevant characteristics are taken into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 04:15 PM
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I do not find this surprising at all. People do this kind of thing because they are terrible at actually arguing with incels so they need a way to tell them to "shut up" without actually saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 02:41 PM
1

You can use sci-hub(whatever the domain is now) or I can use my educational institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:47 PM
1

Yes, and I read the conclusion to the paper. I can access these papers for free in various ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:43 AM
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I read more than the abstract.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 02:37 AM
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Yes,I can actually.In a conversation I had about this topic on this sub I said this. I cannot find the comment, but I suspect it is taken out of context. Also,this sub is literally called Purplepilldebates so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that lots of people on this sub are bluepilled I think it is unreasonable to expect most people of a certain demographic believe that view, even if they claim too. They didn't but evolution takes a long time,and the Paleolithic era makes up most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 10:19 PM
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this sub will try to say that socialization is 100% to blame,others will claim it's just a part of our biological programming Can you find me one person on here who says it is 100% socialization, literally one? No one believes this, so stop making it up. Let's look at things from an evoluntionary perspective.In hunter-gathers societies men would usually be the ones to hunt animals for food,and women would gather food and take care of children.Women would even get help with childcare from other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:43 PM
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You are on a forum where people unironically believe in AWALT and some “female nature” and you complaining about this? Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 04:08 PM
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When people talk about sexual coercion they are usually referring to things like bosses, professors or landlords using their position to gain sexual favors from people, not simply giving an ultimatum to end a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:36 PM
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Yes, but I am attacking your point the is/ought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:11 PM
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I am just using that as an example, whether or not it is true is irrelevant for the purposes of my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:09 PM
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Let's start with the obvious. Lots of redpillers/blackpillers often use evo-psych findings not to show how society IS, but how society should be. Going to actually challenge this and say perhaps they are not really getting an 'is' from an 'ought' but there is an implied 'ought' built into it already. The Is/Ought gap is effectively pointing out that moral principles(oughts) cannot be deduced from strictly descriptive premises(what is). Take the following argument: (1) Starving causes pain (2) Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:38 PM
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A good example would be Rollo Tomassi's armchair Evolutionary Psychology Warbrides it is just some gross abuse of the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:26 PM
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As I pointed out with the top comment, this does not really respond to the OP's point though, they are not talking about the results, they are talking about the misuse of a field.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:13 PM
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Redpill isn't about /ought/ at all, it is about /is/ If it was about what "is" then Red Pill users would be concerned with accurately getting theories of behavior correct then, which from your reply and many others, they seem to ignore it. You also need to understand that older scientific studies into gender differences usually have methodological issues meaning the conclusions you can draw are limited, and newer studies are simply not funded This is not true just from a quick google search, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:11 PM
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The post is about the misuses of a field and not about whether or not it works though, so it does not seem like you are responding to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:00 PM
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You can find almost all of this online by just “picking and choosing” though, why do you even need some awful forum to find this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 01:09 PM
1

It is unclear to me how Red Pill even works anyway, it seems most people who are successful do not need to read it anyway. What advice on there do you find compelling and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:41 PM
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Why does there have to be an alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:35 PM
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I know 20 men that say otherwise from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:32 PM
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Yes, and I am asking why you think men are insecure or misogynistic for thinking that? You seem to be the one struggling with this thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:58 AM
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I think women should actually lie about their partner counts actually, but lie up instead of down to weed these men out if they do not want them. The reasons why they lie is probably out of fear of judgment, but I think that is mostly irrelevant anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:55 AM
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Why do you think men are insecure misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:54 AM
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I do not think it is the case that misogynistic or insecure men care about it, but it is the case that reactionaries and men from foreign cultures seem to care about it a lot(this is the Red Pill demographic by the way and who It is written for). I think most normal men from Western countries do not even really think about this from my experience and I do not really see any evidence that men, besides on here do. It is also apparent it is not even about the N-count anyway, but just being a “slut”…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:52 AM
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Disclaimer: I am white, over 6 feet, and educated Disclaimer: no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 05:44 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:00 AM
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This is just done after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:22 PM
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N-count would just be a proxy for personality, I doubt people care about the actual body count as much as they let on because there is no way of verifying it, and they always go "you can just tell" or 'slut' tells etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:39 PM
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I suspect it has something to do with the personality of the "low-N" woman, as opposed to how much sex they are actually having.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:32 PM
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There is some research on it, I can pull it up later when I have a moment, but I think it might just be people with more extreme political views in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 11:23 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 10:13 PM
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As far as I know, men who do work out are more likely to have “conservative” views, but your average “conservative” is probably not some muscular chiseled God.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:50 PM
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https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010782417301889 Looks like a lot of it is to get out of parenthood due to the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:41 PM
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I do yoga and a bit of weight lifting, I am pregnant right now so I put this off temporarily and usually just go for walks when I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:36 PM
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There is no choice. You either date a super masculine right-wing muscle man or a weak left-wing soyboy. This post is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 03:01 PM
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Nonsense, I suspect men use it as a coping mechanism of some sorts because it seems to confirm what men complain about constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:16 PM
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I find the juxtaposition between the article linking to the "parasites do not have rights" sign and the paper by Thompson because Thompson argues that even if the fetus is considered a full person with rights, a person should still have the right to abort it. When greater numbers of us understand the cultural priority of caregiving, a movement will grow strong enough to challenge the dominant market mentality that disfavors family obligation for both women and men. Justice Ginsburg’s brand of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:32 PM
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I noticed that we have some newbies in here who seem puzzled by what "hypergamy" means and what it looks like - I have been on here for years and still struggle to understand what it means because everyone has their own definition of it. What is your definition of it? the tendency of military wives to absorb their spouse's rank and accomplishments/achievements - almost claiming them as their own. I guess women do this, so I believe in hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 10:41 PM
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No, she supports transgenderism her work was just one of the larger reasons why it was brought into the spotlight in academia at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:18 PM
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Are terfs seen as villains by a big cross-section of people and if so, why? I suspect they are irrelevant to most people, but I would certainly think that most people who know about them see them as "villains". Also, is there a dominant belief that the struggles of women and males who transitioned into women are the same? I am not too sure about this, but I doubt it because that does not really make a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:57 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/gn6t7h/pickmes_are_honestly_dangerous_to_women/ https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/du0gjo/to_all_the_pickmes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dndas9/pickmeitis/f5a66op/ You can read their posts on it, the comment sections usually reveal the issues they have with it- namely it is a bad deal for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:43 PM
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How did trans inclusion become such a major topic in feminism? For the philosophy side of feminism, a lot of it can probably be attributed to the popularity of Judith Butler. You can also combine this with the fact that there are a lot more people coming out as transgender. TERFs are the legacy of of second wave feminism; there was a split between feminists that supported transwomen and feminists that did not and this is just how it is manifesting itself today. As for why you might be seeing it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 02:37 PM
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I think feminists are really making a mistake to advocate to "kill all men" or "all men are trash". Killing all men would be inefficient, putting them into forced labor camps and having them work to death would be a much better use. All men are trash implies they have some value. I can make sculptures out of trash at least. Anyway on a more serious note, do you have a problem with AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:51 PM
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Avoid being pump and dumped Dread game Seeing if he will put in some effort for you(related to #1) Comfort level, a lot of women do not like having sex right away unless they have some trust first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 08:55 PM
1

You would not even have the hard data for that either. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:02 PM
5

Why do Blue Pill users always moralize? Oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:52 PM
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Because polygamy existed it proves 80/20 and that proves AF/BB so Red Pill is true? This is exactly why Red Pill users are relegated to their communities to circlejerk this because it is immediately obvious to most people how awful this is. I will just grant you this argument makes sense, but if it does reach the conclusion you proportion it to, it would disprove Red Pill because people are now, largely monogamous. Whether or not it is “natural” or “unnatural” does not really matter except for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:51 PM
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The “compared to what” could be used to justify just about anything. You could have justified chattel slavery with this for instance. “We should abolish slavery” “what are you comparing it to, huh? If you compare it to how slaves were treated in the past it is a lot better now”. No thanks Sowell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:23 PM
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Sorry to hear about this. My condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:21 PM
3

People still face a lot of sexism, I suppose I missed the part sexism disappeared.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:14 PM
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The position I take is that looking good is just better than “game” or “personality”. I do not deny “game” matters, but, all things being equal, looking good is the most important part. People assume better intentions from attractive people, let attractive people get away with more and even think attractive people have better personalities without even talking to them. This just seems obvious to me, and for anyone who it is not obvious to there is plenty of studies that highly suggest this is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:08 PM
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I would think most of it is because of how much attraction varies culturally. There are probably some things that are human universals and would be good candidates for how attraction is shaped by genetic factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 04:31 PM
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Those are who parents are. I doubt men with daughters are ecstatic about having old men pursue their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:15 PM
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I think there are some women that go for older men, but that is not really a majority. Most women will end up with someone around their age bracket or actively pursue that. I feel society has an assumption that if an older guy is hitting on younger women that he's a predator or has self-esteem issues which I don't think is necessarily true It is not necessarily true, but that is probably often the case which is why it became a stereotype in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:57 PM
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About 1/5 women are diagnosed with anxiety disorders. Most people are going to experience anxiety at some points in their life too. Assuming someone you are talking to is not experiencing anxiety seems safe to assume, so there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:44 AM
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best understood in such a context I do not find this particularly convincing. I think things like behavioral neuroscience or sociological explanations make a lot more sense to me than stories about evolution and it also seems a lot more useful to because knowing why we might have evolved a particular mental capacity does not seem too helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:42 AM
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That is what I originally wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:28 AM
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Male identity in general is getting a lot worse, men have no idea what they need to do, all their traditional roles are evaporating more quick than they are being replaced. It is not looking good, I hope it improves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:27 AM
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I have talked to a few Red Pill users extensively they range from miserable to having really good lives, but because I do not have a grasp of how the entire population of The Manosphere or The Red Pill in general is, I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:26 AM
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I do not really think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:23 AM
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More money, more sex, more free time and free from the lies, how is it bad for men. I am not really sure if this is the case though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:20 AM
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So, are you a Cartesian dualist or something? No our psychologies are indeed products of evolution I agree with this, but it does not follow that I have to accept Evolutionary Psychology or any of the garbage that, say, Rollo wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 01:19 AM
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“The RP’s existence harms more than it helps.” —- unless you’re a man. No, I mean bad for the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:22 AM
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I am a bit more neutral on Evolutionary Psychology in general, but the stuff on The Red Pill is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:21 AM
1

Maybe it does
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:16 PM
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I am not too sure if it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:11 PM
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I consider myself Blue Pill in the capacity I reject gender essentialism and advocate for abolitionism, I reject hypergamy(in most definitions at least), I reject a lot of the Evolutionary Psychology that is used and the studies, I reject that there are “male” or “female” nature’s in a certain sense and I think some of the history, philosophy and other things with regards to the humanities seem suspect too. What I think is that in the final analysis the Manosphere is bad for men too and The Red …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:08 PM
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Also, we really going to pretend all of the CHAZ shootings weren't carried out by far left, antifa sympathizers? I have no idea, I am unable to read their minds. The rest of your comment is not really worth addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:16 AM
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I think you might be correct that if it was distigmatized a lot more men would be okay with it, but I do not think it is fully due to the stigma. Some people want families and children with the woman they are seeing for instance, and transwomen cannot get pregnant. There might be a few other reasons to you could think of right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:31 PM
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Saint BlacksOps2Cel. Not a lot is known about him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:07 PM
2

I think antifa finally has one killing after all this time and alarmism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:55 PM
10

Most incels are not going postal, incel violence is low to non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:24 PM
1

I think even in that case I would if it was early in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 07:07 PM
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No, but I do not want to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:13 PM
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Never. If someone even asked me that question I would assume they were from The Manosphere and I would immediately leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 05:05 PM
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https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ You can give this a read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:46 AM
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It should be legal, but there is issues with that. You can see in some countries where it is is legalized it helps protect traffickers. Decriminalizing it might be better unless those other problems are addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:29 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/3nulm2/how_do_you_block_a_user_on_reddit/cvs3gmw/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 12:05 AM
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No, I explained my position. You can refer to that when you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:44 PM
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I see men getting attacked for simply stating their preference like They are not "simply stating a preference" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:34 PM
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My point is that he is misunderstanding the arguments leveled.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:27 PM
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Agree to disagree on the preferences make no sense. I'm OK with people calling him irrational. The people who disagree with you are disagreeing on those grounds and not the mere fact men having preferences is misogynistic or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:15 PM
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Suppose for example I did not date men who wore baseball caps because I believe that men who wear baseball caps are child murderer. This would obviously be an irrational thing to do considering that men who wear baseball caps are not child murderer. The contention here is that women with certain N-counts do not necessitate any of the undesirable traits such as a higher chance of cheating, higher chance of STDs/STIs or inability to pair-bond. People are disagreeing with the conjectures that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:36 PM
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Trump wanted to ban Tiktok because it has Chinese spyware in it or something along those lines, not because of the political messages on it. There is actually a lot of Trump supporters on it too as far as I know. Given that Trump has been complaining about free speech and censorship on the major social media platforms Trump was complaining that a social media platform marked one of his twitter posts as controversial. He wanted to remove section 230, to my knowledge protects social media platform…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:56 PM
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Is Tiktok explicitly a feminist or political platform or is it simply libertarian in its approach to free speech similar to bitchute and discord in that regard. Even if there was only feminist or any type of other discourse dominating Tiktok, it does not really reflect the stance on free speech. As far as I can tell Tiktok allows for a wide-range of political opinions similar to discord or reddit, but there are probably limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:39 PM
1

That makes a bit more sense, I should have been more clear in my original post. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:24 AM
1

I think the point of The Mythopoetic Men's movement was that confirming to the opposite of "deep masculinity", or what society would deem as masculine was harmful towards them, perhaps my history of this is a bit off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:22 AM
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Thats why I left feminism Thank God
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:10 AM
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No men are responsible for their toxic masculinity, that is the point I am trying to make here. Their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:09 AM
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You cannot possibly claim feminist literature seriously deals with toxic femininity with the same attitude as toxic masculinity. There is literally an entire section in The Second Sex dedicated to this. They attempt to give a causal account of why women might find themselves contributing to it, but ultimately think women are responsible for fixing themselves and fighting against the systemic oppression that lead to it. They also think men are conditioned into the roles they take on as well and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:08 AM
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I never said Dworking used the term, I said feminsits realised their kill all men strategy was not a good look. My point here was that the term was never used by earlier feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:01 AM
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Feminist literature blames all bad female behaviour on patriarchy The way they use "patriarchy" is just more of a blanket term for the problematic parts in the culture- which can and often does include women in this analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 01:00 AM
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Not only do they not use the term, they blame this on men.... or when they are being PC patriarchy Yes, because they are telling men to take responsibility for it, because they largely perpetuate it. Essentially feminisms main mantra... everything is men.... men die... its due to sexism against women.... even dumb things that feminists themselves created are due to patruarchy.... This is not the case, a lot of feminists think that women are part of the issue too. You can see this in The Second S…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:59 AM
3

What does "normative masculinity" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:57 AM
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Toxic femininity effectively exists though in feminist literature, they just never use the terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:33 AM
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Dworkin and Solanas never used the term "toxic masculinity". The term came from the Mythopoetic Men's Movement, which was in fact a response to second wave feminism's emphasis on women's voices. The Mythopoetic Men's Movement thought that modern-day culture prevented men from reaching what they called "positive masculinity" and they contrasted this with "toxic masculinity" as the opposite. Obviously feminists appropriated the term(as they are concerned with helping men as well), but the origins …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 12:12 AM
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The term is pretty much just meaningless in discourse right now, but originally it was meant to describe how men's attempts to conform to masculinity harms them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:56 PM
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It was coined by Men's Rights Activists, so this is just false right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:49 PM
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In your opinion then, who best represents the positions of radical feminism. This depends on what you mean by "radical feminism" Solanas is to my knowledge widely referenced in feminist studies and as such can be reasonably seen as a pioneer. For non-liberal feminists, the most notable thinkers are Catherine MacKinnon, Simone De Beuavoir, Andrea Dworkin, Sheila Jeffreys and Miranda Kiraly. To address Solanas, she is discussed in more non-liberal feminist circles, but not nearly to the extent one…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:40 PM
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What I think happens is that when women move on, they have already done it mentally a long time ago so it only appears it looks like it takes longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:07 PM
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My loose theory is that in the countless millennia of pre-historic times, Men were killed more often in war and hunting and were the risk takers, so Women constantly found themselves either needing to latch on to a new Man in the tribe for survival or were being taken away by the other conquering tribe and therefor had to adapt to new Men all the time. Evolution stopped in the pre-historic times and all behavior is the result of natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:06 PM
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I actually do not think it does to the same extent. The women on here are a lot more tolerant to the blanket criticism they get and most of them do not care or are even particularly triggered about reading Manosphere forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:49 PM
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1) The women from FDS who come on here to argue are terrible to engage with. 2) Men dislike reading anything about themselves that is not praising them. Any criticism put towards men they will automatically hate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:46 PM
4

Is that a deal breaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:27 PM
4

Most people have them, disqualifying someone for that would be insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 01:26 PM
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For me, personally, my deal-breakers have probably constrained instead of expanded. They have mostly stayed the same: I would not date someone who committed a real terrible crime or someone who has extremely bigoted views.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 12:58 PM
2

You think it is correct, not everyone does. From their perspective they probably think the exact same thing. I do not mean to imply some skepticism here, but you need to kind of consider their point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:53 PM
1

I think the exact same thing about a lot of Red Pill theories too, but I can kind of imagine the motivations to believe this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:46 PM
2

Not a lot of feminists pay attention to Solanas, in fact most of them that do appear to hold her up as a problem. I would hardly call her a thought leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:41 PM
1

What evidence is there it is biological? What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 11:34 PM
1

The gap between men and women voting is not even that significant and at some point men outnumbered women at voting. I do not see this as a biological reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 09:17 PM
2

Who are these women having sex with? I presume it is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 08:38 PM
8

Women being sexually liberated would benefit men to end of getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 08:24 PM
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It is the story telling; it is really dramatic and exciting. If it was presented more clinically, women would have no interest in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 04:49 PM
11

I probably would not like it- but then again if they are an adult it would not really be my place to make some objections to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:17 AM
2

Does that make me "homophobic?" Hell, maybe, but it's more revulsion than anything else. Not fear, but revulsion, not to mention jealousy at being attracted to a sexual critter with a similar appetite. When people say "homophobic" they do not typically mean that you are afraid of homosexual people. I do not really know, I can not read someone's mind. There could be homophobic reasons for avoiding trans people- but the again there could be other reasons, which I suspect is usually the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:01 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/il25xg/this_was_just_streamed_on_facebook_live_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf This seems really bad to me. I think anti-lockdown protesting is kind of facile, but it just seems ridiculous to arrest someone over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:43 PM
0

Go to Red Pill jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:36 PM
2

A dishonest Red Pill user, how shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:52 PM
1

I do not know what I am being asked, to defend something someone else said?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:47 PM
1

I do not know what point I am proving to you. I have no idea what you want me to address here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:45 PM
0

No thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:42 PM
8

Most of the women that I have asked if they would be okay with it if a man had plastic surgery have told me they wouldn't be okay with it and some have even said it's outright disgusting for men to do such a thing. I asked 50 of my female friends this, and they all said the opposite. When men are asked, they usually say they prefer natural beauty They say they prefer this, but what they probably mean is that they want it to look effortless. It is kind of like the no-make-up make-up look or the "…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:41 PM
3

What did you want me to address?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:41 PM
2

Here is my armchair Evolutionary Psychology theory. Back in the pleistocene stone-age era, the people that modified there bodies using paint and rocks were seen as more intelligent, thus the people who did this are seen as more attractive and that is why now, in this present day, these people are selected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:36 PM
3

Well, the onus is on you to explain why it's so seldom the case that BP'ers directly address the points TRP'ers make. Not really, I am not in control of what other people say or think. They make bad arguments too that I would not even defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:33 PM
3

It just seems like a lot of Red Pill users find it unfathomable people disagree with them. Most people do disagree with it, thankfully, but this just makes it impossible to talk to someone who thinks everyone who does disagree with them is ignorant, unintelligent or has not read enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:27 PM
3

Did you know it is possible to disagree with The Red Pill and not be ignorant? This seems so violently conformist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:22 PM
3

I am mostly just trying to illustrate how unproductive this line is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:18 PM
6

I would not listen to this user OP, they do not know anything about hook-culture; they are a divorced middle-age ex-housewife from some affluent circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:11 PM
3

He would just be the former male, with money, but he can not be divorced because (1) it is unlikely the woman will divorce him and (2) his money was acquired through criminal measures so there is nothing to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 04:09 PM
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If a woman dates an alpha, she is a whore that is destroying Western Civilization by rewarding a criminal with her vagina. If she dates a beta she is just using some spineless amalgamation of carrot cake and bunny rabbits to drain his resources before divorcing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:58 PM
10

Even with The United States it is not as widespread as some people would lead one to believe. If you focus on it and are obsessed with the casual sex scene, it will probably look like that. Statistically, most people are not having casual sex and the scene is rather small, it is probably just the same people all trading sex with each other and most people are in or prefer monogamous relationships. Anecdotally it appears to be the case to me as well, but anecdotes are quite useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:55 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:47 PM
8

Hook-up culture does not really exist here either as a widespread phenomenon, most people prefer monogamy or are in monogamous relationships these crazy wild trains are a small amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 03:44 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:33 PM
4

What is your issue with this term?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:25 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 11:07 AM
2

It is mostly males.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 11:07 AM
5

Blue Pill users will often say that Chad does not “really exist” and only exists in the mind of Red Pill users or Incels, but I have a knockdown argument for the existence of Chad: (1) Chad is a being that is more attractive than one can imagine (2) Chad exists as an idea in the mind(As Blue Pill users accept) (3) All things being equal, a being that exists in the mind and in reality is more attractive than one that only exists in the mind (4) If Chad exists as an idea in the mind, we can imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:47 AM
1

That is great
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:49 PM
1

They are justifying the self defence from information Rittenhouse did not have by saying he executed criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:38 PM
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Rittenhouse did not have access to those records, but this debate is literally useless to have. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:25 PM
1

It is a terrible situation, but reactionaries and “conservatives” want the protestors shot and killed, so they will automatically defend Rittenhouse off reflex. I do not know why it even matters what the people killed did either, Rittenhouse obviously did not know that. It just mostly comes off as humorous to me at this point that they will circlejerk themselves to death about “law and order” and support extrajudicial executions. Nothing unexpected however.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 08:14 PM
0

I saw it, it just makes no sense to say that dating has some one purpose, considering that people go on dates for sex and free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:55 PM
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The purpose of dating is to get to know each other. Politeness, attentiveness and reciprocation are basic expectations and requirements for behavior when going out on a date It straightforwardly is not, people go on dates to get sex or for free food. I mean, you literally wrote this in your post so you disagree with your own point already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 08:46 PM
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I suppose this just hinges on the definition of "asshole". I do not know what some random reddit post on Tinder says about this either. Men who are disagreeable and do bad things have sex, I think most people agree with this so it is unclear why this debate persists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:55 PM
6

This already happens anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:29 PM
7

Men would also largely pursue minors between the ages of 13-16 You can see my comment in this post, but this is really short-sighted to think absent of a judiciary system there would be no one being protected or any consequences for actions. They would just be a lot more lethal and brutal. "Some 40 year old man is pursuing my 13 year old daughter, I mean it it is not illegal, looks like I can not do anything about it and nothing is wrong about that" good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:26 PM
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Probably similar, just with more brutal punishments. The people in this post do not understand what if you just "legalized" rape women's family and friends would protect them instead. Instead of dealing with HR firing a man from his job, or going to a campus tribunal or getting arrested her father and brother would just come and kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:20 PM
2

David Buss's evolution of jealousy is an example of a just-so-story; Jealousy in men is triggered by sexual infidelity and jealously in women by emotional infidelity. The evidence Buss provides a reason why this might be the case- that being paternal uncertainty is a larger problem for men so they evolved to care more about it. But what you notice about Buss's explanation is that he goes from a survey to assuming this was evolved with little evidence for the latter claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:02 PM
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I'd add sexual selection Sexual selection is human behavior. A lot of evolutionary psychologists write about human sexual selection. Which parts of evolutionary psychology do you primarily object to? They have a tendency to focus disproportionately on the "stone-age mind". They make a lot of creative explanations about problems our Pleistocene ancestors faced and then use that as the basis for why a specific behavior might have adapted. This is pretty much just the popular "just-so-story" critic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:49 PM
2

What is your current understanding of evolutionary psychology? Evolutionary psychology is an approach to studying human behavior. Evolutionary psychologists think that human behavior can largely be explained by innate psychological mechanisms and that these innate psychological mechanisms can be explained with reference to an evolutionary history(notably natural selection).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:25 PM
3

You do not have to reject a "ton of science" to find people like Buss questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:20 AM
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What, if any, part(s) of women's evolved long term partner preferences do you question the validity of? I reject Evolutionary Psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 12:41 AM
1

It is probably better to just leave if there is that much distrust.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:31 AM
2

Seems too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:16 AM
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How can a woman be unsure about paternity. I think a better 'gotacha' would be taking children to a councilor to see if the father is molesting them or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 03:07 AM
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They are not legally obligated to continue paying or even morally obligated I would think. It is just unclear who is going to disagree with you there. For me it does not make a lot of sense to financially cut someone off for doing sex work, unless you moralize sex leading you to thinking there is something relevantly different in this situation between “regular” work and sex work, which does not seem to be the case besides some hang ups people have about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 07:07 PM
1

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:47 PM
1

I mean you can find the 70% divorce rate increasing and share that, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 04:17 PM
1

70% of marriages in the U.S. end in divorce This is literally just made up. Your post is removed now so xD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:59 PM
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With the alarming rise in divorces and broken families in the U.S. and Canada especially The divorce rate is falling. Raising children is a teamwork and requires household stability. Otherwise, studies have shown a plethora of childhood issues can occur and may even affect their adult life. What is your take? Considering men do not do too much of the child-rearing in general, it is not really "teamwork", in fact, a lot of women would probably be better off single and raising the child then with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:44 PM
1

Not really trying to argue semantics, just trying to ask what your definition is here because these terms can mean a lot of things to different people. In some sense the word "objective" can mean mind-independent, meaning that something is objectively true if it is would be true regardless of someone's mental states. Something like the Earth is round could count as this. But then something like the girl's dress is beautiful might depend on the psychological states of humans. If you take your boi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:19 AM
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I would assume there is a difference, yes. I mean knowing the square root of 256 is probably useless to me, but it does not mean it has no truth value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:11 AM
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It might be useful for humans to believe in God or Santa Claus, but we would not want to say that is an objective truth, would we? I am more looking for the definitions of "objectivity" and "subjectivity" you would use, because if you use "useful to humans" as "objectivity" this can lead us to a lot of counter-intuitive or absurd conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:25 AM
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This hinges on what you think "objective" and "subjective" means. I generally think that aesthetics are objective; in the capacity they are extensions of a certain type of reasoning. I would have to ask what you mean by "objective" and "subjective" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:16 AM
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See the edit to my main comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:03 PM
1

Your posts are a waste of time and i'm baffled that you dont' see this Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:19 PM
1

Do you think anyone else commenting on this has watched this video, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:00 PM
2

I have no idea why I would watch that video.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:57 PM
5

That makes more sense then. In that case those are some odd expectations, considering most women do not even know or care what hypergamy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:55 PM
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To neurotic men on the Internet, I can believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:46 PM
10

Not shaming male sexuality usually means do not shame men for ogling at teens, wanting to cheat and in some extreme cases rape. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:45 PM
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I would not watch that video. I do not find the Red Pill argument for hypergamy convincing so I would just reject that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:43 PM
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I do not even know what that means, apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:32 PM
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This person just gave a bunch of bad advice to women. It just allows pathetic men to take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:28 PM
15

It is not “please men” it is “placate to some insecure men on the Internet”. I am not a Red Pill user, so I do not believe that men are, while generally insufferable, pathetic children that need hand holding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:28 PM
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I enjoy number 1 where he tells women to "admit their hypergamy" and then number 4 where he says "stop giving men dating advice". I actually want him to follow number 4, except for women. Anyway, I briefly just read his 10 tips, here they are for anyone interested: Admit your hypergamy Don't lead men on Understand monogamy is hard for men Stop giving dating advice to men Take responsibility for the men you date Check your privilege Become comfortable with male emotions Stop shaming male sexualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:21 PM
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Do women lose attraction to men "show their feelings more"? That seems like a huge assumption to make. All the stories I've heard, the woman has lost her attraction and sees him as weak and unmanly I have heard opposite stories. There is probably something else happening here that you are not accounting for, that being: 1) How are men expressing their feelings? You can see how someone being a blubbering baby could make someone uncomfortable. 2) What is the context here, how quickly is this happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:08 PM
3

I assume the user means that it is not illegal to call someone that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:52 PM
1

Not in the mood for whack-a-mole today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:41 PM
2

Now we are talking about college campuses here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:20 PM
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Feminists have been trying to expand the definition of rape to ridiculous extremes and it's time to push back against that. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:48 PM
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And predictably the "journalist class" of people have coined a new term for it: Femicide. What is your disagreement with this term?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:10 AM
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Thank you Exiting the labor force I actually understood this as different types of unemployment; like seasonal, cyclical etc.. Thank you for clarifying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:42 AM
1

What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 02:28 AM
1

I am going to try to do a quick ban speedrun if I can right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:49 PM
1

This happened a year ago on my other account, I can try and find it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:43 PM
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Askfeminists will ban people for challenging them in meaningful ways. I got banned for saying that if you consider gender a social construct, that it does not automatically follow you can choose your gender arbitrarily(they banned me for, to quote the moderator “transphobia”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:36 PM
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I do believe there are men who think there is no point in putting in the effort to get a relationship or sex, as I have met people that hold that view. The question is how much of them account for sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:23 PM
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I would challenge this by saying that this is not necessarily an issue. If someone told me for instance unemployment was up, in a vacuum it does not mean the job market is bad or there are no jobs, it could just be a bunch of people sitting at home with their parents not working. The same applies for sexual activity. A lot of these men and women could simply have no interest in sex for whatever reason. I personally know some people that are content(allegedly) with pornography and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 09:22 PM
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I decided to look at the top mathematics, biology and economics journals, was surprised to find zero feminist, Marxist or poststructuralist nonsense in it. Decided to ask some friends/people I know who work in those fields or have experience in academia, same sentiment(some of them are disappointed Marxism is not popular in economics). I just have to ask the question where this stuff takes place or who takes it seriously. I had an exchange with someone on here a while ago that prompted me to loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:53 PM
4

Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:50 PM
4

No idea
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:48 PM
5

No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:46 PM
8

You did see the name of the user who posted this, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:41 PM
7

Being bored or repulsed by someone you are dating is a good justification for ending the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:36 PM
1

He has a cooking show
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:09 AM
5

I actually think most Red Pill users are boring, not Machiavellian masterminds or abusers. Look at Rollo Tomassi and that Stonetemple person- or any of the Red Pill users that showed themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 12:19 AM
1

Crying over death, did not change a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 10:12 PM
5

What is dating ineqaulity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 12:27 PM
4

In the case of labor, that would mean a larger workforce receiving declining wages There are other factors to consider as well right? This is precisely why studies exist, because some things can not just be reasoned out in an armchair. In a vacuum the supply and demand might make sense, but then other things happen like increased spending because it is increases the overall amount of consumers. But we do not have to merely speculate about this and we can look at studies on it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 01:58 AM
3

It passed 50% of women in the 70s I believe, but at this point this is just trying to nitpick I think so I will stop here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:24 AM
1

People would have different goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:58 PM
0

They certainly did not halve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:53 PM
4

Considering that work force wages were not halved when women entered the work force in the 70s(I think they actually went up because it bolstered economic development) yes they would probably disprove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:42 PM
1

What is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:34 PM
2

What do you mean by happiness is "subjective" and success is "objective"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:29 PM
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Studies exist precisely for the reason that our intuitions or "instincts" - especially with regards to large numbers or probability - are terrible for assessing how the real world operates. Economics is a really good example of how fallible people are. I talked to someone who believed that wages were halved when women entered the work force and there are plenty of people who think that double the workers = half the wages. But the actual studies on this do not really show this is the case. I do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:28 PM
2

Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:44 PM
4

Do not know why it would worry the women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:38 PM
3

Yes, but nothing about that suggests people care about the individual users that much. Chances are no women on here will encounter Red Pill men. Even the women on here who agree with The Red Pill would not even want anything to do with them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:34 PM
14

I get the impression that the women on here, for the most part, do not care about what happens on The Red Pill. Not everything is about Red Pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 07:27 PM
10

Yes, it is difficult for me to understand. These Beta men need to learn their place as the ones that get the left-overs and have to pick up the check.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 11:31 PM
3

People who get educated in legal studies probably go to law school.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:18 AM
0

And no. the moment you say 2+2=4 "reeks of white supremacy patriarchy" there is no longer misinformation. The 'reactionaries' finally have a point. Who is saying this? What influence is this having on mathematics or the real world? A lot of this academic nonsense is going on in twitter posts or is internal to academia. Reactionaries and conservative fear monger over nothing constantly(See Peterson on Bill C-16 or Hicks on how postmodernism is taking over academia). You know it, I know it, everyb…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 01:30 AM
0

You mean "the applied social sciences" and you missed some there I am aware of this, but these are social sciences, I am obviously not going to list them all. but we are losing our reputation by aligning ourselves by these ideologues The loss of the reputation is from reactionaries spreading misinformation about them or hyper-fixating on any controversies that do happen. I am not wishing to disclose which but I don't think he was alone in his thought... keep looking I am probably better off goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 12:59 AM
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Social sciences will never be taken seriously like that They are taken seriously. Anthropology, legal studies, linguistics, psychology and sociology are extremely prevalent. What are you talking about? Even academics in economics are going in the bandwagon. Claiming that 'economics is meaningless' and that 'we need to destroy it' because it is 'capitalistic in nature'. Where? I am looking at some articles in economics journals that were recently published, I am not really finding any of this. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 12:39 AM
6

I just wanted to ask redpilled people to consider AWALT and non-heterosexuals in the terms of their dating strategy It might have you served you better to make this a question for Red Pill. But most redpilled men are too far gone in many ways and are stuck in their view, so it is a little pointless Probably not, they can elaborate on it. Also your flair is amazing Someone said it about me once, I thought it was quite humorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:12 AM
6

They mostly care about having sex, I would even posit their models of reality are based on that goal. If that is the case, I do not see why they would be concerned with lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:00 AM
5

I wanted to finally write a post about Red Pill and Evolutionary Psychology. Anyone have any Red Pill posts pertaining to that subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:58 AM
4

A while ago there was a user who would go on about "the lesbian death bed" any moment an opportunity was presented. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:50 AM
8

There is a subreddit(do not remember the name, perhaps someone else knows) that is an off-shoot of The Red Pill for homosexual males. Lesbians do not fit into Red Pill theory, for a similar reason that how to make tacos; it seems irrelevant to men who want to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:46 AM
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This is like saying "if you want a good job, get valuable skills", it begs the question, which skills? People on here are concerned with that women and men find attractive specifically not generally. I will give you one thing, you sure know how to write a lot and convey little.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:24 AM
3

Where would they all come from? This subreddit is less about Red vs. Blue now, but just more general discussion about dating, relationships and gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:47 PM
1

There are a few others, but they are more exclusive and pre-select members, so the rules are more relaxed. If they want you in their discord, they will poach you off the subreddit one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:42 PM
7

Relative to other subreddits, that is nothing. Even a subreddit like r/TheRedPill that boasts three times the subscribers is largely irrelevant outside of niche circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:36 AM
4

The subreddit has only 80'000 subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:22 AM
1

But who’s to judge? In this context, myself. It would be impossible to rule out selection bias in data and hypotheses being tested and what’s being modeled for one thing. Anything can be 100% correct and still lead to flawed policies because of what it necessarily leaves out. Yes? I do not think it is possible or ideal to aim for 100% and flawless studies, that is just unrealistic. It’s the oldest trick in the book of people in power to leave out the facts not supporting their agenda and emphasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:20 AM
1

I guess it’s way more difficult to prove that the nuclear family was only used in the last 200y than to disprove the ansence of the nuclear family model beyond 200y ago I am lost what this has to do with validity of gender studies at this point. Anyway, People used to live with their families; children, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandmothers and even, at times, this included servants. It made sense for them to live together for reasons due to agricultural, domestic and familial duties were easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:16 AM
1

Thank you, I suppose. I do not see an issue with the article you posted. Imagine taking 100 male upper class libertarian scholars and have them work for 20 years producing papers, statistics and books cross referencing each other in the field of political science and economics If it is properly done, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 10:37 AM
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I read through the whole thing, I do not really see the proof here besides you just state this FDS's response to the tragedy of the commons is collectivization: FDS thinks like a team, while TRP thinks as an individual man This is just clearly untrue, they are concerned about their collective well-being too by your definition. What I do notice though is people redefine "collectivism" to just mean "things women do", so of course they are going to be more "collectivist" when it is circular like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:53 AM
2

FDS just replace "feminism" on here. At least there is some progress being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:05 AM
4

What did that video have to do with FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:03 AM
2

Do not see what the issue with calling third world countries terrible is, because a lot of them are by most metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:51 PM
1

Why did you move there, do you mind me asking which country?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:39 PM
1

Curious, would you want to live in a third world country?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:47 PM
4

I think Right-Wingers are generally okay with this because the subtext is that "men are trash, they need to improve". A more radical feminist might be calling men "trash" as a call to become separatists or something else they would disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:05 PM
1

gender studies is based (as far as i know) exclusively on things like literary analysis and ideas, it is not based on any kind of observational "social sciences" practices (like anthro, sociology and "psychology")and data etc I am looking at contemporary gender studies journals right now. Found an article Equity and Reconciliation Commission and justice, a lot of writing on reproductive health rights, an article analyzing systemic violence on Syrian refugees, an article on genital modifications(…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:01 PM
2

gender studies is made up baseless nonsense I do not understand how gender studies is "made up baseless nonsense". You do know what gender studies is right? It analyzes gender in popular culture, historic ideas of gender, historic ideas of sexuality and just general history. I do not see why this would be more baseless than anthropology or history. judith butler made up? What are you referring to here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:03 PM
1

Gender studies have been monopolized by feminist beliefs This is like saying "physics has been monopolized by science". Gender studies was made by feminists and the work it is built on his feminist work. What else would there be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 05:00 PM
1

The problem with The Veil of Ignorance in this context is that Rawl's kind of presupposes people want Liberal Democracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:48 PM
1

Do you know what else Lacan said? √(-1) = the phallus. If you want to use psychoanalysis to bolster your argument, I would at least look for contemporary accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 04:38 PM
4

I doubt they lost 8 billion dollars from that one advertisement, I think it even lists the other factors at the end. Is there more information on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 11:23 PM
25

1) Sexual activity without an orgasm occurring can be pleasurable in other ways. I do not find sexual activity without an orgasm necessarily disappointing. 2) Achieving an orgasm from strictly PIV sex is extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:02 PM
3

Why wouldn't they be? It's not like they're married Because they are in a relationship What obligation do they have to not seek better? None, but that does not mean they are going to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:11 PM
3

but I do think they're scanning for better alternatives What leads you to believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:08 PM
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You are assigning to much intentionality to this. Most of the time when people get into a relationship, they are not thinking about marriage immediately, but rather they just want someone to spend time with. They might want to marry that person eventually sure, but it is not some constant husband audition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 04:03 PM
1

Who is this a problem for? I do not really see this as a paradox either, could you explain why it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 03:34 PM
2

I am Nazi for thinking race science is nonsense, this is new.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:19 PM
2

Sure, continue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 11:27 PM
3

If someone wants to message me about this and debate, I am open to it. People into race "science" are just usually violently racist and are unable to refrain from personal attacks for a moment so it would get shut down on here I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 02:03 PM
1

I could not figure out why he would defend The Bellcurve, but it turns out he just wanted to go on his own separate tangent about nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:45 PM
1

No, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:42 PM
3

Just get to your argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 11:30 PM
4

Correct, you can message me about this if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:28 PM
-2

Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:54 PM
0

Yes, like Sam Harris /s Do not really want to get into this debate on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:43 PM
4

Yes. For a while I was curious about old studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:10 PM
12

If I think someone saying X race has a low IQ using garbage science they got from The Bellcurve or The Pioneer fund, does me not having scientific studies to say, prove a belief that I have invalidate the former? I would not think so. So my question is why does critisizing something mean that I must have another independent view. Which raises my question - since you guys are all pro-science, wheres all your credible studies? Proving what? Here is a study on bird migration that I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:00 PM
2

Looking at it right now, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:45 AM
3

That would not break the witch-hunting rule to link the comment someone made on here. I just find it difficult to believe some of these comments are posted by people. In addition to this I also find it strange to characterize all "women" on here like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:31 AM
3

I am actually for focusing on the details of posts, they happen to be important sometimes. What people need to do is be more charitable and stop picking fights over semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:19 AM
4

Who believes that here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:17 AM
5

It was made by a series of past choices, someone’s height was not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:53 PM
3

When there was a shortage on then it makes sense for medical staff to have them first. As people learn more about this virus, it also makes sense to adjust the precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 09:48 PM
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Men should just stop using online dating all together. They constantly complain about how terrible it is, the numbers are there to show it and they seem to want to put no effort into improving themselves to use it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:03 PM
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Usually when this topic comes up about weight(or in this case n-count) vs. height is people cite that the relevant difference is that men can not choose what height to be, but people can choose their N-count or weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:01 PM
1

Did you ever read the Michael Bailey book, it is quite humorous. I think autogynephilia is real, but it is blown out of proportion and probably a lot more rare than people would let on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:50 PM
2

You just answered your own post, so what did you want to discuss? Did you want to share your thought process?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:52 PM
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Replace the word “men” with “myself” in these rant posts and they begin to make a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 02:51 PM
1

Is there a missing part to that “Central Park Karen” video? I did not want to ask the users in the other post about it, they seemed sensitive over it so does anyone know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:44 AM
1

I am skeptical about it too. She definitely felt threatened though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:41 AM
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I think it is just some vapid reactionary talking point they got from some else. I doubt you will get an answer. Anyway, apparently the dog was threatened before the woman made the scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 02:17 AM
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You said the cause was because it was uncancellable that caused it, must be misreading then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:33 AM
1

It was not because she was "uncancellable", it is was because they were irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:16 AM
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No, why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:14 AM
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Someone else here pointed this out too: but the men might not even notice what is happening, which is unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:08 PM
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Perhaps women move on quickly because they only leave the relationship once they have no feelings left. It might look like it happened in the “the blink of an eye”, but chances are it was just the last straw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:57 PM
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It is possible it manifests in different ways though. 66% of intimate partner homicide victims are women, for example. But when you look at assisted suicides, that number drops below 50%. With more men overall dying as a result of domestic violence: Do you mean assisted suicides here, or suicide induced by domestic violence? The Davis R.L. Article suggests that, but not assisted suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:06 PM
1

“everything is a social construct” This is what I am referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:21 AM
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In your first point you mention that a person is a myriad of positive and negative things. This is the true difference - truly loving someone is loving the negative things about that person What if they were only negative things, that would be unhealthy, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:27 PM
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Gender is not a social construct Why do you think this? Academic feminists keep pushing the “everything is a social construct” despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary Interesting, could you name a few for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:26 PM
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Made a typo in the title, it is supposed to "who" not "why". ;___;
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:37 PM
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I do not really feel like debating that topic right now, perhaps some other time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:22 PM
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Gender abolitionism, I think if people stopped thinking in unnecessarily gendered ways it would make dating a lot more pleasant for most people. But I do not think the dating market is unfair, if anyone does they can explain it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:18 PM
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Someone ping me when the soft rape-apologist comments come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:37 PM
2

where is the line between coercion and pushing? Pushing is coercion, especially when that person has some level of power over you(in this case probably physical).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:37 PM
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woman's love is for the utility of a man and not the man himself What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:03 PM
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There are women who are promiscuous with no damage, that is the issue, and it could be the case most of these women are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:24 PM
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It does for some of the arguments on here. People claim it damages women to have sex or causes them to be jaded etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:15 PM
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You are making an error here by conflating standards with the decisions of what people wear. As far as I know there is no where in The United States were women can go topless without it being seen as obscenely sexual or illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:13 PM
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Does it cause it or is it correlative? This is what people are concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:09 PM
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Functionally it is just when a woman does something they think is bad. Woman cheats? All of them are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:08 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-louisville-idUSKCN24R025?utm_source=reddit.com I wonder if the right-wingers in favor of Second Amendment Rights are okay with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:33 PM
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When people say this they are saying it with the intention that hobbies or passions increase someone's chance of getting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:30 PM
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Can you explain what your post is about, it just looks like complaining, but I have no idea what the theme is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:23 PM
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Editing it for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:28 PM
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Why do people make the assumption that sexless men are all doing it completely involuntary as opposed to simply just choosing not to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:16 PM
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Insecurity or moralizing beliefs about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:30 PM
1

Are there any academics pushing this right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:07 PM
1

Go buy right now then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 01:42 PM
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30 years ago a woman only had her social circle to choose from. Now it's the whole world. This does not really matter if women have more choices in this context, they will not automatically get what they want. This is like saying because you can buy a $1 million dollar gold watch on the Internet that people have the choice to do this, which is ridiculous. Same as above, women have the whole world to choose from so they just form soft-harems for the top 20% men. Soft-harems are not happening Immi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 01:27 PM
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Technology and the internet gave women unlimited options when it comes to men This does not mean that women have unlimited options. enabling hypergamy and leaving 3x more young men sexless than young women If this is happening how do you know it is because of technology? Maybe traditionalism coming back? How would that even happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 12:49 PM
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Just letting you know so you waste no more time, I am blocking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 12:32 AM
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I am a bit unsure about European countries. I also can not read the articles you linked, would you be able to show me where it says 40% of men are Incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:43 PM
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It keeps changing so it is difficult to attack. Would you like to explain how you interpret it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:36 PM
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Did you have the context for the second source.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:36 PM
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My cynicism has gone so far it looked back around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:21 PM
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I am not and I have no idea who this is being addressed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 07:20 PM
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Depends on why he is considered low value. Men are not valued as much for their physical appearance as women are, so ageing does not really have that much of a drastic affect on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:36 PM
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I guess I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:36 PM
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You must be mistaking me for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:29 PM
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I could not tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:24 PM
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You must have replied to the wrong user.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:19 PM
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Why are you telling me this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:15 PM
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Objectification is not wrong in itself, but what makes it wrong is the harm it causes to other people: using them as ends, denying them as individuals or in some extreme cases having ownership over them. Making someone an object of affection is not necessarily objectifying them, and even if you wanted to call it objectification it is missing the point. I do not think spinning your wife around or comparing her to a baked good is harming her in any way, so it is unclear what the problem is. I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:24 PM
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It is probably more the areas I volunteer in. I doubt something like volunteer firefighting or Alcoholics Anonymous has more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:29 PM
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If I wanted to score points on here I would just be an anti-feminist and attention whore that way. I think that would be far more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:24 PM
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The volunteer work I do is almost all dominated by women, men need to step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:43 PM
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Easier by male standards, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:51 PM
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I would guess most of them are egalitarian feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:16 PM
1

I actually agree with this, I just disagree the sex is the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:47 AM
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Or they just point out the obvious that the girl who takes a new dick every weekend is a poor choice for someone to be on your team as a life partner. What happens after this though is that people would think that if she did get into a relationship after that this is somehow wrong. I disagree that having casual sex has some kind of direct causal role on whether or not someone is going to have relationship success though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:19 AM
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Why do people here seem to think all women who have casual sex can never be considered for an LTR? The elephant in the room is that this is mostly a moralizing thing. There are some people here who seem to effectively argue that a woman who has casual sex should not get a relationship or needs to be punished in some way. The reality of the situation is that women who engage in casual sexual encounters will often get relationships- what people seem to want is that they end on on r/wherearealltheg…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:44 AM
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Two-thirds of young women identify themselves as feminists, so good luck with this Red Pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:20 AM
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How is that a weird definition of Red Pill? People can certainly be naturally Red Pilled, or Red Pilled without knowing it. There is some idiosyncratic theories and sets of knowledge that no one would really come to by their own conclusion. You would still want to make a distinction between "Red Pill man" and "Red Pill user" as these seem to be different enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:28 AM
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I did
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:06 PM
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I will choose the first one because this fictional situation makes it easy to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:56 AM
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Not calling people incels, it is an incel talking point however. It is probably better you ignore me if this upsets you that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:55 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:50 AM
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For anyone who believes 80/20 like the OP is saying, proof is not going to matter so why waste time? You can just look up dating statistics and put it together yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:46 AM
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It is just some vapid incel talking point and I will stand by that. 80/20 is not real and valid In the way the OP understands it, it certainly is not real. You have fun with the post though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:38 AM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:11 AM
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Yes, and those women are free to date after that because they are not owned by men simply because they slept with them. I think you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:09 AM
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He does not have ownership over them or anything, this is just how men think about it so it makes sense for them to accept the Incel 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:00 AM
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If you have the weird definition of Red Pill where someone can be Red Pill without knowing about it, I am unsure. If you use the definition of Red Pill where you need to know about it, I doubt it because it these communities are really niche. I had a brief discussion with a very RP man on here the other day who said Christians are all BP The survey results on here show that Red Pill users are a bit more likely to be Christian(or religious) than the Blue Pill users.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:55 AM
2

Excuse me, can you tell me what brand of rock you're living under? Limestone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:53 AM
1

While the other 80% of men are left to compete over the bottom 20% of women This is pretty ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:48 AM
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I would certainly deny what the OP wrote because it is just untrue. top 80% of women only really go after the top 20% of men. While the other 80% of men are left to compete over the bottom 20% of women This does not make a lot of sense. It makes it sound like some men just have literal harems, which is clearly not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:40 AM
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If you don't know what this Rule is, it is the idea that the top 80% of women only really go after the top 20% of men. While the other 80% of men are left to compete over the bottom 20% of women. It gets worse every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:38 AM
2

I briefly looked at it, it seems like 80% of posts do even have a picture of the person and if the post does they are usually doing something really strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:56 PM
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I dislike it. There is not too much more to say about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:34 PM
2

I do not see why we should discuss non-existent people doing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:03 AM
2

It must be frustrating you are unable to answer them then. He made up a group of people to blame, which is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:48 AM
0

No, please explain it I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:35 AM
1

Peterson's problem is that the post-modernists give everything up to interpretation He does the exact same thing too? I mean he says that there are limited amounts of interpretations that do not get people killed and some other evolutionary things etc. but he agrees? post-modernists choose not to engage in dialogue for understanding because ultimately that understanding is "cowing" to one side or the other. If you ever read any work by Derrida or Foucault you would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:46 PM
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Well the foremost "villain" he says would be Jacques Derrida, the French philosopher Yes, I remember the video he talks about Derrida and misquotes him on "there is no outside text" and completely misunderstands. You are also aware that Peterson does not believe truth exists(see his debate with Sam Harris on truth), so it seems like that is a better description of his beliefs than Derrida.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:22 PM
3

I mean who is he even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:16 PM
2

Listening to his lectures? Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:08 PM
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Post-modernism boiled down is that nothing has meaning, and there's no such thing as truth or good. Only interpretations. Where did you get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:01 PM
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He blames post-modern collectivists, the people who solely try to judge others by their characteristics I have no idea who these people are. I mean it is probably broad and vague enough that it ranges from a student with colored hair and a university professor. for creating "us vs them" ideologies to place the blame strictly on those pre-existing groups instead of placing the blame on the people most responsible for our misery You just described like 20 different ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:49 PM
2

There is a lot in the body and it is hard to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:42 PM
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Any ideology that shirks responsibility or blames others listening to Jordan Peterson I mean if you listen to Jordan Peterson he essentially blames some non-existent group of people for why Western Civilization is declining. There are places in the world without strong feminist movements, men who - by Western standards - are considered masculine, men do not get coddled or comforted in any way and there is plenty of challenges for them. You find these places mostly in the third world, and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:34 PM
4

What is your post about. Did you want to discuss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:25 PM
2

When people start generalizing Red Pill or their ideas they start crying nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:14 PM
3

Whenever n-count comes up, the talk always turns to "how many is acceptable"? Theoretically other factors would have to be calculated such as the velocity of the N and the context. 5? 10? 20? Less than triple digits? The function of having the exact number is that so the men who are against "sluts" is so they can use studies to justify their repulsion towards them. There is probably some other "scientific" way you could measure it like sociosexual attitudes or something similar though. Quite sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:10 PM
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They will often look exactly the same and will be executed in exactly the same way, but as I said before they probably have an incorrect assessment about why it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:43 PM
4

Negging is essentially teasing(obviously it can be taken too far) and I assume teasing is part of flirting. I think Red Pill users might misunderstand why it works though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:29 PM
1

How do children of stable two-parent households turn out on average? There has been some research on this(see Cross, Christina 2019 and there is also some CCF research on this somewhere) that it is household income and access to recources. Obviously household income is going to be higher if there is two people in the equation. Left to their own free will, humanity cannot be trusted to make the best long-term choices for itself. So who gets to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:22 PM
2

Negging does not "really" work on me. If the person doing it in question is attractive, I would probably just play along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:16 PM
2

N-count is just a proxy for “slutty” or some set of undesirable behaviour, so in that sense, yes it is possible to assess. In terms of guessing the actual number, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:13 PM
2

What kind of media did millenials consume growing up do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:25 PM
9

To clarify - although the definitions for “emotional labor” are somewhat broad, when most people reference it, they’re referring to who does more domestic chores, and the exhaustive burden that places on one partners shoulders when chores are not split evenly. For the purposes of this thread, that definition will suffice. Not usually no. Emotional labor is the process of managing your feelings, other people's feelings, doing work that involves empathy/sympathy for others or teaching is another o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:16 PM
3

Yes, and that is among another reason why the argument is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:35 PM
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so I saw a post on here that asks if women don’t like to be objectify, then why do they ___? If men hate getting used for their financial recources, why do they show them off so much? You can see why this argument is immediately terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:30 PM
8

So how did you get from divorce outcomes to attitudes about feminism, pill color etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:17 PM
5

I love androgynous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:52 PM
7

So what I can find is it cuts men’s programs funding, but it does not seem to be stopping protesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:27 PM
7

however things like title 9 had been used many times to stop meetings I tried to look this up how Title IX has stopped meetings or groups, I can not find anything about it. Could you give me an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:00 PM
2

You can read the subreddit and tell me where you find that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:36 PM
8

How did feminists cause circumcision, problems with family court in the capacity of custody(I think there might be an argument for other areas in family court) and financial Abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:30 PM
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I assume that was the subreddit you wanted to bring up. Instead of relying on your visceral reaction you can just read it though. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:31 PM
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You can read the subreddit sidebar in r/AgainstMensRights and find me posts in there advocating for getting rid of them if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:29 PM
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He might even get elected to be the president.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:07 PM
-1

I am not going to do research for you on this, it would be a lot easier to tell me which feminists do this first. Which of you guys would like to be the ones to get your lives ruined by feminists for proposing that women prove must the relation of their child's father and for proposing that men be allowed to withdraw from child support Anyway you can do a quick search on r/askfeminists(I would recommend r/gendercritical too, but it is gone) to see the opinions on there some random feminists migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:06 PM
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Women mostly work in the office whilst men mostly work in the field This is just untrue and has been for most of human existence, but I would rather move away from this pivoting. yes other men are in this equation but women are the biggest counter to anything a man wants to say because their voices are protected by feminism Guess who usually has control over the work places, social media etc. where people get fired or cancelled, there is your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:01 PM
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I would recommend men who are really concerned about issues such as financial abortion, circumcision, family court bias etc.(the issues Men's Rights Activists are mostly "concerned" with) create their own space for it and/or work with the feminists who are also oppose this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:51 PM
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What do you think? Men did (and pretty much still do) all of the heavy lifting to allow for a comfortable society. This is just false, women do a lot of essential work for keeping "society" running and always have. The average woman has more power than the average man in what she can say and do Who do you think grants this to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:45 PM
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I suspect you mean r/AgainstMensRights, as the subreddit you linked was banned. They are not against Men having rights on r/AgainstMensRights, but they are against the Men's Rights Movement. This context you are leaving out is important, as you can be a socialist without supporting National Socialism and support democracy without The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:36 PM
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Men built society in the sense that they made it comfortable to live in What does this even mean? men do not have as much power as people believe right now When you consider most of the powerful people in the world are men, this is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:31 PM
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Feminists are typically against child support because it causes women to be dependent on men/systems of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:23 PM
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Women to do it for them I suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:15 PM
1

Did you have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:42 PM
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Except the teleological purpose of sex is to create a child I am not going to grant this, what is your argument for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:38 PM
2

You are ignoring the intentionality here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:36 PM
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If you cross the street, it would make sense to be aware of the potential for a car to hit you, so it is a good way to look both ways. What would be ridiculous to say though is that someone who crosses the street and got hit by a car chose to get by that car. Likewise it does not make any sense to say someone chose to have a child because they made the decision to have sex in the similar sense to what I wrote above.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:09 PM
-1

The issue with this is that someone having sex is not necessarily choosing to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:36 PM
4

Is this really a contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:29 PM
3

Yes, when you consider that it is a necessity to lie to males to protect their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 09:28 PM
2

Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:50 PM
3

What about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:48 PM
9

It is unclear what nature even means here and it is even more unclear to me why it would matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:47 PM
1

I usually include Europe too etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 03:08 PM
1

Red Pill, and by extension “game” would not work in a pre-sexual revolution society. You can try doing Red Pill game in Saudi Arabia or Egypt, it is probably a lot different there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:28 PM
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I suppose it is because they want someone to choose to have sex with them, as opposed to paying someone for it. It would be like paying people to like photos on instagram or something similar to that, it do es not give that kind of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:13 PM
2

I hope they do a demographics survey one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:54 PM
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I do not see how simply describing how people in different social classes behave with regards to dating or relationships is a problem. These are some of the few, I disagree with all of them though because surely RP concepts apply to all human beings and therefore nobody regardless of class is immune to them. Red Pill is a response to dating in Western cultures, so it would probably not apply to all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:50 AM
1

What is the context of this quote?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:16 AM
2

I have some friends on here who helped me learn how to get into a relationship, but the subreddit itself just makes me a bit more thankful I am in the relationship I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:13 AM
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As bad as we may be in confiding with each other you teach us harshly that it is far worse to confide in women. What the OP posted makes it seems like we are doing a poor job at this even.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:22 PM
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Make sure when you recreate your patriarchy you include a giant tower with a microphone on top of it for all the men to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:20 PM
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makes computer noises
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:17 PM
7

How do you know? Can you see inside me? I am having an internal and individual empathy right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:14 PM
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Okay, I am having an empathy right now, now all problems for men are solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:10 PM
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It is unclear why what you do is my concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:09 PM
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No, I mean what does having empathy look like to you, this is what I am asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:08 PM
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This is why I asked what you have in mind here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:03 PM
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If you have ever had to deal with someone who is having issues for an extended period of time it can be a drain on you. What do you have in mind women do here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:01 PM
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They call others those names as an alert about how bad their lifestyle is That is clearly not what is going on, see my other reply further down this comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:58 PM
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You confuse criticism and straightforwardness with lack of caring (as women often do). Yes, we are critical of each other and straightforward with each other. This is not what is going on here, the men calling others simps, betas, soyboys etc. are not doing it to their friend or as a critical exercise, but it is done to other them; it is a way to separate them out as "not real men" by segregating them into the class of lesser men. For the rest of your comment this is probably not the case, men s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:56 PM
3

I think there should be a book written as a group effort by men called Why Feminism is the Source of All Problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:52 PM
3

From what I have read, I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:49 PM
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There are polls taken about this, and it comes to something around only ~25%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:39 PM
1

If the woman's problem is something akin to she can not find someone who is at least 6 feet tall with a $125'000 a year income, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:37 PM
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Men generally are and they even put other men down by calling them simps, betas etc. The men on here hate incels and men in real life, especially the more "Chad" ones probably do not care about any of the issues on here as well. I think you are mistaking the circlejerk of misogyny on here with men caring about each others issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:16 PM
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The real issue is not that women show apathy towards men, but the fact that so many men, including yourself see this as some kind of issue. Men are not entitled to women's emotional labor, and I suspect this is what all of these posts assume. You never see the men on here(or anywhere else for that matter) complain about how apathetic men are towards other men's struggles in certain areas or how men are apathetic towards women, it is always the problem when women are not doing this. If you got ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:09 PM
1

How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:58 PM
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Do not quite see what your comment is about then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:50 PM
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Honestly you could trade out the nouns in femaledatingstrategy etc. and red pill subs and they would essentially sound the same I find this to be a really uninteresting point to make. The two subreddits are a lot different as well as people post memes in r/FemaleDatingStrategy and there is also no hard "theory" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:37 PM
2

Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:03 PM
2

Not saying anything at all would probably be best then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:48 PM
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A lot of girls are interested in people, while guys are interested in things I have read/heard this before, where is this from or what is the basis for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:46 PM
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I do not understand the initial comment then, or is he just telling them to go talk to people on there?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:45 PM
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Is there a bunch of women on there now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:38 PM
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Where's this idea come from that women are boring Generally speaking men and women have different interests, and those might seem boring to the outside group. People ask me why I like philosophy or trading card games, it seems monotonous and dry to them, but then some people and myself both find these activities particularly exciting, for someone outside it is boring just as talking about celebrities, cars or or History of the 18th Century English Aristrocracy might be boring to me. Activities w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:30 PM
0

Why do you think they are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:59 PM
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And never did I claim that. You can go continue this with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:40 AM
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It is Red Pill users who seem to be propagating this themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:28 AM
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Considering a lot of Red Pill users seem to be libertarian, I think they might be interested in minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:26 AM
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Power differentials cause consent to become dubious, which is why there is an issue with a 40 year old dating, say a 16 year old. I do not really expected Red Pill users to acknowledge this however so not really any point posting this as a top level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:49 AM
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I would not say it makes a woman low value, but it is probably a sign because men are typically expected to initiate, and it kind of shows no men worth her time are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:45 PM
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I thought they would have high dexterity scores :3
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:39 PM
0

It still is nature and nurture, what are you even talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:04 PM
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You could have met plenty of people in real life who have been sexually assaulted or raped, they could have just never told you about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:31 PM
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I do not know what his graph is based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:30 PM
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I have no idea what his graph is based on besides how he feels about it. I think this is what he was getting called out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:49 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/23f3xl/sexual_market_value_smv_of_males_vs_females/cgxgd9t/ I found this on another subreddit. I suppose he is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:40 AM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:26 AM
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Man redditors are weird. Half them have been raped or sexually assaulted, violently abused by their parents or some other rare misfortune. Is there something in this platform that draws these people? You will notice the people who tell the stories. People are a lot less likely to vent about how they were not raped, sexually assaulted or abused by their parents, it would come off as strange if they did. If you did a poll asking redditors if they had been raped, sexually assaulted or violently abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 07:18 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 03:47 AM
5

I did LSD with my friends for the second time yesterday evening, I find it quite enjoyable, but I am trying for a child soon so it will be the last time I can do it again in a while. I really do think most people would benefit from doing it at least once, but maybe the possibility of getting a "bad trip" could be too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:13 PM
2

Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:05 PM
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Ok so thats public, but 60 years ago you could argue ‘well they take care of all our kids privately and take care of the house etc.. so we all collectively agree to play our role as public protectors since they play their role as private emotional and household caretakers’.. fine fair enough.. The real reason why women used to be house wives is that there was no washing machines, dryers, easy food preparation, food preserving and refrigerators. In the 1950s women had to do this role out of "nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:46 PM
2

Did you have any examples you specifically wanted to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 11:59 PM
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The subject in the form of a series of questions is: "Why won't my wife/SO let me stick it in her ass? Why won't she do everything with me that she did with her previous partners? It would make a lot more sense to ask why instead of why not. Men typically see it as bad if a woman wants to do less with him than she has done with other men, and like I said before - that can be the case sometimes, but I think that for the majority of women, restricting sex to purely vaginal their way of saying "you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 02:11 AM
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It dispels the whole game theory that men just need '' game '' to succeed with women Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 12:41 AM
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What I am more puzzled about is who disagrees with this here? I mean I suppose you are right, but I would have to ask what is so interesting about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:49 PM
1

Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:46 PM
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The way someone looks is part of the way someone’s personality is evaluated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:41 PM
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You know who “mates” the most? People from lower socioeconomic classes and I doubt this process is that complicated. As for the neuroticism from social media, these people making it more complicated than it needs to be made their own bed. There is also upsides to social media people forget, that being it allows them to connect or meet with people they may never otherwise would have. I also really do think any attempt to “fix” this would be worse than the actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 05:56 PM
5

Which feminists are you referring to and what is their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 05:20 PM
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Which is why it does not seem to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:24 PM
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As far as I know it was kind of a response to women or men saying other women were kind of an "acception" to Red Pill or something, then they would just respond "AWALT" or something similar to the feminist "not my Nigel" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:23 PM
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I wrote a comment about my thoughts on "AWALT" before and this is what I think about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/fbzfk6/what_are_womens_opnion_regarding_redpill_hypergamy/fj7n02w/ Suppose I believe all men are rapists. This would mean that if you are a male, you are a rapist. Let us suppose someone interjects by saying that they know a lot of people who are men and did not rape, then I argue back “every man is a potential rapist or has the capacity too” or “he may not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:11 PM
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Some studies show it as low as 1.7% and as high as 4%, but there is probably no way to know the real number. The 10% number that is typically cited is probably false and it is weighed a lot by certain socio-economic classes were paternity fraud is much more likely. See: Anderson, Kermyt. (2006). How Well Does Paternity Confidence Match Actual Paternity? Evidence from Worldwide Nonpaternity Rates. Current Anthropology - CURR ANTHROPOL. 47. 513-520. 10.1086/504167.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:45 PM
4

I do not know what an "inherently male trait" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:41 PM
1

People have sued for it, see: Tina Marie Hodge v. Chadwick Craig
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:19 PM
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If they are worried about having their babies switched they can ask for the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:11 PM
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I do not think there should be mandatory paternity testing, but it should be available(ideally for free, but in the United States right now that seems unlikely) if the father wants to to test for it. The rate of paternity fraud is really low anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:05 PM
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I feel like a lot of people dismiss people's observations made through online dating I would just dismiss most people's "observations" because they are 1) uninteresting 2) riddle with bias. That said, I think any unnatural circumstance you put certain types of human beings in can still allow you to make observations about their nature and nurture It is unclear how someone's observations can work as the basis for an entire human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 10:44 AM
1

How so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:00 PM
2

I can just describe what the patriarchy is, the way men oppress women and how women can free themselves from that oppression with no morally normative evaluations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:47 PM
1

Yes, but you can discuss feminism in an amoral way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:42 PM
1

The Red Pill is sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:32 PM
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In that sense, I still would believe that a debate about sexual strategy is not amoral unless specifically defined that the parameters of the debate must not include moral questions. You could imagine saying something akin to, dread game will increase your chances of a sexual encounter (1) If you want to have a sexual encounter, you ought to employ dread game (2) You want a sexual encounter (a) You ought to employ dread game The conditionals in (1) and (2) are concerned with the agent's goals, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:30 PM
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The strategy is amoral.Whether you are moral for following it is another point. TRP is amoral because it doesn't concern itself with whether a strategy is morally good but whether it works. My issue with this is that I could just say this about feminism, but then I suspect Red Pill users would disagree with "feminism is amoral".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:16 PM
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Amorality is just kind of the indifference or lacks the quality of "rightness" or "wrongness". If we are having a debate about the best way to prepare babies to be slaughtered and eaten, this can be done ignoring the ethics of doing so. You can discuss a sexual strategy in the same way. You can just say this about literally about anything however. I do not think it is wrong, but more just trivial and boring because you can say it about literally anything. The real issue here is that values guide…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:33 PM
1

If someone goes to a job interview they are doing it to try and get a job, in the case of the one night stand this does not appear to be the case. But this issue is rather trivial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 02:06 PM
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You could have a girlfriend and still have all of those problems, so I can see how in certain contexts the statement "getting a girlfriend won't solve your problems" makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:20 PM
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Also when you consider someone with a partner can have all of those problems that seems to make the case even more weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:07 PM
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"getting a girlfriend won't solve your problems" What is the context of this? I doubt if you handed some insecure, lonely and emotionally distress incel a girlfriend he would just stop being that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:06 PM
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It was with regards to the comments like this: If you turn a ONS into a relationship then it is no longer a relationship that ends after "one night" lol you don't really know if its an ONS til you never talk to each other again You mean same night lay. One night stand is just that. One night only. This is just seems like to me an odd way to evaluate what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 12:04 PM
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What a convincing argument, you should write for a conservative journal or PragerU.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 10:08 AM
1

It looks like post participation is really low lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:49 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hiov7l/how_many_one_night_stands_lead_to_relationships/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf There was a couple of replies in this post that went similar to “if it becomes a relationship it was no longer a one night stand”, which just comes off as kind pedantic or strange to me. As far as I know a one night stand just has to do with the expectations of the sexual encounter and not what happens in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:48 PM
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I know some people who have done this, the relationships did not last too long though, but that is probably more of a function of my demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:07 PM
2

Nazism is a far left ideology. That's how they saw themselves, that how they were seen by others at the time There was a "left-wing" part of the Nazi Party, but for the most part Hitler despised them. When Hitler was in power he barely did anything socialist at all. It also makes no sense to call Nazi's socialists in the context of Germany at the time. There was already a socialist party(Social Democratic Party of Germany) and a left-wing party(Communist Party of Germany). It was National Social…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:36 PM
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Because people can disagree with it. Not everyone is going to automatically buy into everything they read. I have not read the book for a while, but if I remember correctly Esther’s argument is mostly based on a straw manned version of feminism, but she makes a convincing argument against her mischaracterization.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:15 PM
6

I fail to see why this matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:11 PM
6

It probably got too much attention from that J.K. Rowling rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:08 PM
5

I am really surprised about gendercritical. Anyway I am glad I made a purge week during COVID-19 because that will likely be the last one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:04 PM
2

Can you link this happening, I never see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:36 PM
0

I think Rowling is just being a baby about it, to put it bluntly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 08:33 PM
1

She is not being put on trial on like Faurisson, this is really dramatic. People are leaving a company because they do not like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 10:11 AM
1

I do not understand why J.K. Rowling is a freedom of speech issue? Is the new bar for freedom of speech accepting everything everyone says?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:04 AM
1

I thought it had to do with some journalist saying he would doxx him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:02 AM
1

I definitely feel that there is some kind of sisterhood between women. Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:01 AM
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It does not, these are things men(probably the ones on here) worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:44 AM
1

There is no “team woman” or “team man” or any of that in real life. What generally happens is people with vested interest in protecting people in similar situations will engage in the “team” behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:44 PM
1

I do not quite understand your point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:41 PM
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I think it is hypocritical, but then women should not care because there is no real rewards for appeasing to men’s random word desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:40 PM
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I do not know, do you think a rape victim being hurt is nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:39 PM
2

I think women can understand it, they just think it is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:34 PM
1

It does mean something, but I am failing to see how it implies soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:23 PM
1

I would certainly want an explanation on how rodent migration would affect crime. I have no idea what the argument for the claim in this post is, you can explain it to me if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:22 PM
1

For the same reason why data on rodent migration would not tell me about inner city crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:13 PM
-1

I think I agree with it being an exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:53 PM
2

I do not think that data tells me there is soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:07 PM
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I have no issues with the data, I just do not see how it implies soft harems exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:07 PM
2

I do not really hold the stories people tell on here in high regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:06 PM
1

I do understand mathematics, I also understand making sweeping conclusions with a small amount of data is terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:24 PM
3

The discrepancy is not that far apart to justify “soft harems” existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:23 PM
-1

I can see why it is “vehemently” rejected then if this is the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:17 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:08 PM
6

The data does not support what you are trying to push here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:05 PM
1

Considering people are a lot more equal and free than they were say 200 or even 70 years ago, this is just some nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:04 PM
0

There is not really a good reason to accept that premise. Some people probably feel like it happens, but that is not too convincing for anyone outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:03 PM
4

All behavior people find creepy is likely unattractive, but not all unattractive behavior is creepy. It is easy to imagine someone finding wearing Hawaiian shirts unattractive, but not really creepy. If a man who is seen as unattractive does anything, it is creepy. A sexy man slaps a random women’s ass and calls her a bitch, he is a good flirt. Yes, because then it is a wanted sexual advanced because the person is attractive. A person can enter their residency and have it be perfectly legal, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:55 AM
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What I wrote was they can "generally do more" without being seen as creepy, nothing about this contradicts what you replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:35 PM
9

Attractive people can generally do more without being seen creepy, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:17 PM
32

Creepiness is subjective because it is a feeling people get about something. There is generally creepy behavior like stalking, looking too long at someone or saying something overly sexual to them outside of an appropriate context and these will give most people a that feeling of creepy. But then there are other behaviors that might creep someone out, like simply being unappealing looking. But people get to decide what they find creepy or not when it comes down to it. So yes, a young man could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 04:46 PM
5

Red Pill users regularly tell me AWALT is just a heuristic, so I do not know what it shows about the behavior of women in any meaningful way. I think “AF/BB” is just the Red Pill way of coping/explaining that the woman left someone for someone she saw as a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:53 PM
1

I do not know why people care so much about some dull quote made by some author.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:47 PM
6

What is stopping my partner from helping with keeping a household?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:31 AM
1

What do you mean by "real"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 09:30 PM
7

Projection. Conservatives want less government In what sense? They constantly go to war and expand the military, they also wanted some giant wall built around the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 09:29 PM
2

Do you believe the people rioting are thinking about the optics of the protest? I would doubt that consideration even comes to their mind, as the looting and rioting is opportunistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 07:12 PM
7

When it comes down to it "conservatives" like authority a lot, they just want it directed into a specific direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 06:50 PM
38

You called it “arbitrary reasons” in your title, but those do not appear to be arbitrary and often are not. Without further context, I really not think too much about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 06:24 PM
11

I have a pair of fangs folded into my mouth that can be revealed to the male to show that I am capable of protecting off spring from predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:58 AM
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No, the OP misrepresented the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:20 AM
4

https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/theredpill You can check here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:17 AM
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This is counting people who comment/post only. They are also not percentages either as far as I can tell but probably multipliers, so the way you are presenting the data is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:16 AM
1

Men’s status does change with their partners status, so good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:46 AM
5

Male stand-up comedians are just as repetitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:45 AM
1

Your issue here does not sound like student debt, but just someone with poor finances you would not want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:43 AM
2

What is the advice you had in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:35 AM
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I do not think so, it will pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:15 PM
2

Yes, and I imagine people would rather be free from a cage than to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:18 PM
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I do not think they really "prove" feminist talking points, but they often agree with them. They obviously disagree with what most feminists want. Funny thing is that is belittling other people’s struggles is SJW 101 and anti-semetism 101. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:38 PM
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Men are not going to die if they do not have sex. I think most people(hopefully) would choose food and water over sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:50 PM
1

Could I say a Ferrari is a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:49 PM
3

I would not take fascism or white nationalism seriously. It ought to be treated like Flat Earth or something along those lines. It gives it too much validation to actually want to argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:14 PM
11

Does Rollo understand that it is just not women doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:12 PM
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The reason why people view cheating as wrong is because it breaks a kind of promise. People assume monogamy with their partner and cheating is deception and breaking a promise that was implicit or explicit. I do not think it is "worse" if one gender does it, or if it is a homosexual relationship or polyamorous one that involves 3 people. The reason why cheating on a male would be seen as "worse" for the male is that for whatever reason men feel different about female adultery(the reason could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 01:41 PM
3

This is barely worth paying attention. One woman makes a tweet, then Rollo says it confirms his Warbrides theory. If you do not notice most libertarians are exactly the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 01:25 PM
0

/u/userleansbot dora_bowl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:13 AM
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Neutral, it just depends on the tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:30 PM
5

Okay, so what if someone does understand all of this, does it automatically lead them to make the same prescriptive conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:54 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:15 PM
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I do not know why Blue Pill users have to provide a sexual strategy. These questions remind me of people who ask Red Pill users about homosexuality or lesbians, it just does not really seem to be part of their theory. Anyway I would not want to give blanket advice to people(especially men) because everyone needs to hear different things and has their own set of unique problems to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:49 PM
3

That sexuality is not as straight forward as people would think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:43 PM
2

You only called the latter “BS”. I agree with you otherwise though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:20 PM
1

Does this mean the one night thing is also “BS”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:11 PM
2

they'll be practicing abstinence because of school closing? People will not be meeting new people at school.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:35 PM
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Some schools are being shut down and the students will be vacating dorms, so that would have an affect on dating. This will be a short-lived thing, and once the virus passes everything will be back to the way it was and forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:18 PM
1

I do not really buy into the relativist idea of attraction that is implied in your post, so this seems lost on me. It makes no sense when I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:17 PM
0

I am unable to piece together the argument here it just sounds like something about voles and gorillas, then from that the conclusion is that “80/20” will always exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:03 PM
3

It clearly is from your earlier comment. Keep at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:47 PM
8

You are better off just making your argument explicitly instead of just hiding it in a question by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:43 PM
0

It does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:40 PM
3

Okay great, then go message them and talk to them about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:39 PM
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I find nothing about it shocking. The Red Pill is boring truisms covered up with edgy and faux intellectualism. Male “nature”(how most men are not saints or amazing) is just obvious to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:35 PM
8

"Righties" can make their own art.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:57 PM
3

There is a lot of work on this(one I can think of off the top of my head is David Frederick and Melissa Fales, also see research by Mons Bendixen and David Buss) Women(straight women) are generally more upset by emotional infidelity than sexual infidelity. Of course women are still going to care if their partners are cheating on them in the sexual sex however.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:55 PM
1

I would think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:03 PM
2

As usual everyone will go on using their own personal definition they like the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:01 PM
8

Why would women be in trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:37 PM
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I have no idea. All I can say is most of them probably are. At the same time I do not think even close to a majority is getting the amount of sex they probably want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:40 PM
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As long as they have a handle on their mental illness it seems fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:38 PM
1

and I expect you to get a lot of pushback on it. And you were incorrect, this entire post is just people agreeing with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:46 PM
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What would it take to convince you that feminism is not a hate movement, or a religious cult? The problem with this is that feminism entails so many different beliefs that this is technically correct. There are feminists who advocate for what would be called hate movements, and I imagine it can get cult-like. It would be like saying "religion sacrifices people to Gods" or "science is sexist". For instance they can find one feminist going like "kill all men"and this vindicates it being a hate mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 11:10 AM
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People had recreational sex for before birth control, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:48 AM
3

Love would be biological. Love does not seem any less "delusional" than any other mental states or emotions, so what is so special about that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:34 AM
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An easy way to look at this is to see how the word is being used. Essentially "Blue Pill" can just be translated into roughly thing I do not like. You can see similar things when people use words like capitalism, patriarchy, socialism, SJW etc. There really is almost no difference here as far as I can tell. It appears to me you are over-thinking this as you can tell Red Pill's definitions are not models of clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:31 AM
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Here you are: It's scary to see how our society lacks real ideals. There is no ideal body, no ideal man, no ideal women, everything is relative. Its pure decadence. Thats how we got to fat models. GLOGANG is a vanguard against modern decay. Like Plato, we still acknowledge objective beauty. The warrior has to be trained in their body and soul. He HAS to lift and read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 12:38 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/fcbtwg/invitation_to_join_our_reading_group_on_trpred_we/ Well here's a chance for you to learn the classics with like minded men without any left wing distortion. Furthermore the Manosphere has a tendency to engage in empty posturing about helping men and "building an empire I was just thinking about literature the "proper" or "regular" ways of reading it, then I saw this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:46 PM
0

How does this argument even work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:29 PM
5

What will the PPD woman do tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:29 PM
2

As far as I can tell the male imperative would include polygamy, spreading their genetics as much as possible and dating young women etc. What is interesting about this is that if a culture was set up for men to maximize this “imperative”, it would involve a lot of other men missing out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 06:45 PM
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I just do not see how an option being present means that option will be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:19 PM
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Probably
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:04 AM
2

Women are generally hypergamous What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:03 AM
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That has to be a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 11:16 PM
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This is like saying that because someone owns kitchen knives the option to cut their family up is still present. What does this really say?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 11:15 PM
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This is typically not what Red Pill users are saying when they refer to hypergamy. As far as I know the definition that is used in social science(which is presumably the one you are using) has problems as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 11:12 PM
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When Red Pill users explain hypergamy to me, it makes little sense, but from what sense I can make of it I think it is a rather dull observation. People tell me hypergamy is that “women seek partners who are equal or better than them” or something along those lines. This is roughly my criticism of it and why I do not find this observation amazing. Hypergamy, as I have had it described by other people and the definition I understand you are working with, that women are always looking for the “bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:19 PM
2

Is there data on 18 year old girls dating 35 year old men and how those relationships work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:57 PM
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You can just make up any situation to remove the actual issues with it then in the case. There is nothing inherent wrong or problematic about a 35 year old dating an 18 year old and just looking at it in abstract removed from the context is unhelpful. I could come up with cases of incestous relationships, necrophilia or marrying a waifu pillow, but in real life the people who do these things or the problems that come with them exist. It is possible for an incestous relationships to be fine by re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:56 PM
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I would think this is not probable, considering women usually do not ask men out. If a woman did decide to do this, chances are she does not see him as "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:43 AM
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I am going to guess money, status, they just genuinely enjoy working in the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:57 AM
2

I am not trying to make a syllogism here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 01:49 AM
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I think it is because they think FemaleDatingStrategy is feminism, and feminism is Blue Pill. That makes the most sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 01:26 AM
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I will ask this here because I do not think this deserves its own post. What is hypergamy? I am confused at this point. Why would for instance women finding most men unattractive(like that 80% statistic or whatever) prove it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 09:12 PM
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Yes, I do not see the contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:58 PM
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It is not, you can just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:49 PM
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The problem here is he is assuming symmetry I think. To me, at least, it makes sense that in a lot of real life situations that do not involve simple boxes cooperating is a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:23 PM
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Now time to add game theory to the long list of things Red Pill users misunderstand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:07 PM
2

I have read a lot of game theory. You could explain how it looks in a relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:01 PM
2

This dilemma is easy to understand, what does not make sense is how it applies to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:58 PM
1

I was wondering the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:58 PM
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It makes more sense to just be cooperative, as a one-sided relationship does not seem like it would last.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:56 PM
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I see no issues with being a feminist and having men pay for things, why would that be one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:05 PM
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If women were truly principled they would not pick and chose what benefits women the best, they'd either be 100% for equality or 100% for tradition..... Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 05:37 PM
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Okay, I understand now. Thank you. Yes, I agree that you are justified in calling it out, it can be dishonest at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:53 AM
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This is not an error though. Being Blue Pill on the subreddit, as in specifically attacking or disagreeing with The Red Pill is way different than simply being what they would call "Blue Pilled". I am saying that Blue Pill users on the subreddit are not necessarily the same as what Red Pill users would call Blue Pill. Does this make sense, I hope I am not being unclear here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:18 AM
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I would not want to do it, and I am okay with supporting a stay at home father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:55 PM
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You are misidentifying something here though, typically when Red Pill users call people Blue Pill they are not referring to say people who self-identify. Typically they are referring to specific traits, attitudes and beliefs of a person. For instance, someone with a Red flair could actually be considered Blue Pill and vice versa. In this understanding there is a uniform set of beliefs(even if it is unclear) because that is what they would be using the word to describe the person who has these se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:25 PM
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Frequently, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:11 PM
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There is not a lot of Blue Pill users or women saying that here, so it does not happen that often. I am sure you can find instances of this, but I can also find instances of men with Red flairs advocating for shooting feminists and rape if I dig hard enough, it does not really mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:26 PM
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If a man marries some 21 year old virgin Catholic girl, then it would be strange of him to expect her to be able to provide all of the sexually degenerate acts he would want. Someone like that most likely has more conservative attitudes, which would, I imagine, translate into bedroom activity. People who have a lot of sex do it because of their personality traits in most cases, and do not get their personalities from who they have sex with. It is unlikely you are going to find some really low or…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:23 PM
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This does seem like a case of ignorance though. A lot of men are indiscriminate with sex, if the woman did understand this she may not feel as special. There is a fact of the matter whether or not this man(or an man for that matter) has a genuine interest in her, and the woman can fail at recognizing this fact. The friends with benefits situation you described sounds no different than a regular boyfriend/girlfriend, except there is no formal or informal implication of commitment(if this really m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:17 PM
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In a lot of these cases the woman is usually aware that this is happening, but holds out for hope. It is kind of difficult to discuss these types of real world situations that do play out and how they relate to hypothetical cases, such as the one presented in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:13 PM
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There is not a lot of praise, but there is no debating that with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:35 PM
1

Why do you think it is a better model than MBTI?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:54 PM
7

Sexual Strategy is Amoral
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:53 PM
1

I have no idea what your response means.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:51 PM
2

MBTI is more fun though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:44 PM
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Its amoral after all. No, you misunderstand it. Only male sexual strategy is amoral, which is why they are having such a fit over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:33 PM
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It really is not. You should see the amount of men who lose their minds over the existence of this subreddit. You can keep repeating your dull "muh just world fallacy" you read on some poster or whatever, I have no idea why I would even care about that. It is quite clear there is an abundance of hysterical men on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:24 PM
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Okay, here is what you do: Go back to my comments. Read them. Quote where I formed the argument you think I am making in the specific comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:19 PM
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It bothers the men on The Manosphere, and these men typically have paper thing egos so if you talk about men in a way that is any less than worship, or the Lord forbid say bad things about them these Manosphere men clutch their pearls. Their personalities account for most of their outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:08 PM
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This is just agreeing with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:24 PM
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I just think you are misreading my argument. Nothing I can or want to do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:10 PM
1

Perhaps
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:59 PM
2

Perhaps, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:19 PM
0

I think I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:04 PM
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They are both different uses of the word. In one use respect, they typically just mean something along the lines of giving regard for their rights or boundaries. In the second sense it means holding someone to an honorific status due to ability or other positive properties. Women usually use it in the first sense, while men usually use it in the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:31 PM
0

And because of that, it hits the wallet of men much harder Again, you do not have to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:53 PM
6

MGTOW wants nothing to do with you. Thank the Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:51 PM
5

In the process of empathizing with someone it usually works via shared experience and or understanding of their predicament You can listen to them, it works pretty well. I understand why MGTOWs or Incels are upset for instance, I just think their diagnosis of it is off and how they usually want it to be fixed is just nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:41 PM
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Let’s see if anyone here has actually learned something from the other side and if this sub is capable of some occasional wholesomeness. In the way that the men here describe their problems in regards to dating, gender roles, workplace issues, legal systems etc. I do understand what the problems they are bringing up are, and some of them are legitimate grievances, but the gross answers they give to them or who they put the blame on is usually so off, I do not even want to entertain it. A good wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:39 PM
0

hypergamously(looking for the best of the best in sexual, romantic and economic marketplaces, regardless of price/risk) How does this stop someone from not being ambition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:27 PM
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This is kind of a difficult question to answer, but the boring answer would be both are influential. There is obviously some level of mimetic desire when it comes to how people perceive height as valuable in their partners. The idea of women, say, wanting men over "6 feet" and everything else that comes with that obviously due to a huge cultural influence. Whether or not something is nature or nurture too, I would imagine, would be based on the tacit assumptions people make, so it quite unclear …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:14 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:11 PM
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100% biological. There isn't a single culture that can or will ever form where in shortness could make women excited and turned on while tallness is mocked and rejected. Cultural universals do not imply biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:08 PM
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Men, I would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:40 PM
1

Then go tell women to split the bill with you. As for your argument that when a boss invites his employees to dinner, the boss pays, it's different. The point was to show when it is reasonable to expect someone to pay because of a cultural expectation, you misunderstood the argument. Off course you are saying that women and their time are more valuable than men and our time when you see this expectation of men paying for the date as reasonable. If you don't agree with this, then what's the logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:39 PM
1

Go right ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:32 PM
2

Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 03:35 PM
1

There is a good solution for this actually, you do not have to date. There really is no significant social impacts or any legal impacts of not going on dates. You can't say that the one who invites should pay for the meal unless you also agree with the statement "Men should pay for the meal 95% of the time on dates". It is a cultural expectation that really has no legitimate authority over anyone. I do not really see how it follows from what you said that "Men should pay for the meal on 95% of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:22 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:08 PM
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That was not my intention, what I was saying is that there is a cultural expectation that the person who initiates the date usually pays, and that person is usually a male. So yes, men will pay for it most of the time. Was there anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:03 PM
3

How so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:00 PM
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You can just talk about the expectations on who pays for the date first. There is a cultural expectation(at least where I am) that in most cases if a person invite someone out on a date(usually it is the male doing this) they are expected to pay. If they do not want to do this, they can and should discuss it before the date. What this little debate does do is allow is for people to write Cosmopolitan magazine, Psychology Today etc. articles about it that usually conclude the same dull thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:58 PM
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Do you think men should pay for dates or do you think splitting the bill is the best choice? I do not really know how to answer this question. In some situations yes, in other situations no. I find this entire squabble about paying for dates to be irrelevant and easily solvable. What do you think about the rising number of women pushing back against splitting the bill? Is there one? I was unaware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:34 PM
1

As I've said before - psychologists and anthropologists have a very vague understanding of human sexual nature. They come up with theories and a lot of those theories contest other theories. I would imagine the reason why this is still discussed in the social sciences is due how underdeveloped they are in comparison to hard sciences. A lot of geneticists abandon notions of human nature I would claim with great care, and I think as psychology and anthropology develop(there is some forms of anthro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:46 PM
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I think in a proper understanding how evolutionary biology, the concept of human nature is undermined. There is no ahistorical or atemporal human nature that just exists to be discovered. It becomes quite unclear what human nature is, besides simply just a concept people made up to describe general human behavior. This is not to say I do not believe that humans do not have innate capacities, but the concept of human nature is really ideologically loaded when it comes down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:05 PM
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Red Pill users could read a woman going on about how she finds her husband attractive because he decided to say "no" to someone trying to sell them a vacuum cleaner. What does not "prove" Red Pill at this point? How does this even "prove" Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 12:51 PM
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That was my mistake, I am poor at reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:38 AM
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Statistically those women are probably less likely to have their marriages end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:36 AM
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A lot of “weebs” play it, there is denying that. The character design is clearly aimed at being more anime-esque in aesthetics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:33 AM
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The endless skins for Akali, Ahri and Yasuo. The in game emojis are clearly targeted at weeb demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:06 AM
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This is interesting, but then people would just ask whether or not those women were giving those men endless amounts of sex, which is what the main concern on here is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:00 AM
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These are the women with high N-counts who are really sexual, which means they are low value. Good try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 12:03 AM
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I do not get the impression these men on The Red Pill are trying to fix anyone else's problems but their own. They give advice, but I suspect that advice they give is not out of a genuine service for other people, but rather an ego boost for them. They even admit at times they do not care about fixing things. My experiences with men is that they often are fixers This is really unclear what this means to me. When most people have problems they try to fix them or cope with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:56 PM
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I think it is lower than 20%, probably closer to maybe 1-5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:45 PM
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Yes, and I would apply this to other ones as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:13 PM
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I address this already in 3.1 of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:10 PM
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I disagree with this. If I wanted to change views here I would write in a way to appeal more to emotion or other sentiments as opposed to just writing what I think. There is no way this post will change anyone’s view here, but perhaps some can change mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 07:30 PM
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I have never experienced this. It would probably be a gradual process I imagine, and not just like a switch even if it did feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:51 PM
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Good thing that attraction doesn't have anything to do with medicine then.A better analogy would be you having a diet of MacDonald's and after winning the lottery and eating gourmet food for a year ,dismissing MacDonald's as an option. The analogy was not the problem, but the argument behind it was. You used the argument to try and say how it would have been different in the "past". How quickly the women dismiss these options doesnt invalidate them as options.They are playing the game and they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:49 PM
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Fucking hell this is psychotic. If you think this, than that is fine. I am not here to convince you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:36 PM
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You’re treating a man below your threshold as an entirely different gender of creepy monsters and it’s fucking weird. If you read my post and you seem to have a problem with this analogy, I offered some other ones as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:31 PM
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Red Pill theories, at least from how it appears to me, are extremely vacuous truisms that 95% of the adult population would agree with, but they are often covered up by edgy language or faux-intellectualism to make them appear more complicated than they can be. It just turns out people have an initial negative reaction to The Red Pill, but once you realize how banal the claims they make, that are allegedly Red Pill such as "women like attractive men" or "making yourself more attractive increases…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:27 PM
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Why should a woman of 50th percentile attractiveness be attracted to a 50th percentile male? This just does not make any sense on its own, which is why I am asking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:20 PM
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This post would probably be a good response, if I was trying to convince anyone on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:19 PM
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I would suggest finding someone who can sympathize with you about this to talk about it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:15 PM
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I do not know what hypergamy or AWALT is, and I do not really care so perhaps I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:52 PM
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I address this in my post, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:51 PM
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I do not know what he basic tenets of these are, so probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:40 PM
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You can just say ugly women That does not work, because then people would say even "ugly women" can find someone to ejaculate inside of them or date. I am not stuck on this analogy however, you can change it to what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:28 PM
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A woman on an imaginary 50th percentile of attractiveness should be attracted to a 50th percentile male I find this to be a strange assumption, I am going to have to ask why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:27 PM
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I do not know why it would matter if they "used" to be good enough. At some point some certain medicines or medical procedures used to be "good" enough, but people do not use them anymore, this seems like a poor argument. Your standards rise depending on the options available to you and the people that used to be good enough in a smaller pool don't make the cut in a larger pool. They would not though, the point in my post is that the pool is not even increasing, those men are not even playing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:14 PM
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You made this into a debate about semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:11 PM
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I was looking for disagreement. I tagged it as a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:11 PM
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What about the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:09 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:41 PM
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Instead of the questions, just get to the argument you want to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:23 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:42 PM
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Because when people think about gender, the way that they construct it is that it necessarily has to be this way. People on here discuss male and female "imperatives"(how these imperatives have any legitimate authority is a mystery to me) and how these "imperatives" are both at odds etc. So for example the male "imperative" is procreate with as many young women as possible, and the female "imperative" is to marry or something else. You can think what you want about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:41 PM
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Cringey no, but it just comes off as really strange and can span into the territory of disgusting. it’s interesting to me that one of the more common female kinks gross Is this common, I would not think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:35 PM
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Depending on the context, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:58 AM
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I do not know how I would react, but I know it would be negative. That is just too disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:36 AM
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Probably not, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:27 PM
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It is probably better you leave this to discord chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:06 PM
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As far as I know I was the only one who left.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:56 PM
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They will call women that are competition "sluts" in some cases, so it would just be kind of true by definition. It is a shaming word used to try to denigrate someone. Women can call other women sluts and it can have nothing to do with sex, so that should tell a lot about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:12 PM
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Woman. I would raise the one adopted child because part of the point of having a child is that I am the one who raises it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:07 PM
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I think I would in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:10 PM
1

How is promiscuity immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 03:51 PM
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From the articles I have read it can be 4 months or 10 years. Does not seem that low to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 03:47 PM
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Falsely accusing someone is a crime already and people face jail time for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:02 PM
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I watch Brood War, League of Legends and some Warcraft 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 01:05 AM
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I like witchcraft, feminism and astrology. I also enjoy moral/political philosophy a lot, Warhammer and competitive gaming, which is something few women do as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 11:48 PM
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They are usually trivial unless they are strongly held.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 11:27 PM
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No one is saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:56 PM
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If you are around my age(18-22) and you talk to a libertarian who is around you, they are usually insufferable contrarians. The brand of libertarianism they subscribe too is seen as really repugnant and perfect for contrarians. The stupid things they say like taxation is theft, the “if the child consents” etc. Is just the kind of edge-lording a contrarian wants. Every libertarian I have to talked to in real life are just like the ones on reddit, which made me completely abandon the title. It got…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:30 PM
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I think people with super polarized politics views like being MAGA weirdos, Stalinists or anything like that is usually unattractive to people outside of those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:21 PM
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Explain to me why it is, I do not care about people spewing logical fallacies they read on some poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:16 PM
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I agree with you, I am insecure and projecting, so it is not too bothersome. I just do not see that as a problem for my argument however.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:45 PM
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I do not really care too much about biology here, that seems like a tangent. Women probably do rate most men as below-average looking, and that is probably the case. Does this really mean that women are picky and are only willing to date the most attractive men. From what I, and most people can see it does not appear that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:44 PM
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You only believe that because you breathe air. There is my counter-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:41 PM
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I do not know what proves or disproves hypergamy at this point, so I will just reluctant agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:32 PM
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That does happen, but then women date men who are less that ultra-Chad quite regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:30 PM
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You had no argument in the first place, you just called me insecure and projecting. Something you need to remember on this subreddit most users opinions are pretty useless, as in what you think about them has no immediate impact on their life, and you are no exception to this. I guess you think I am projecting and insecure, I can not really argue against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:28 PM
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The issue I take up is it is misleading to call someone picky simply because they are not completely indiscriminate. The fact that men are willing to have sex with 300 lbs women or old ladies or whatever else they consider low value, it does not seem to follow that women are extremely picky. If you use that as your definition of picky it seems really meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:23 PM
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Just for the record this is a debate subreddit. If you want to just call people insecure or insult them, then go somewhere else. You have to realize you are a nobody on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 06:20 PM
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What I do not really like is women are being called “picky” because they are not indiscriminately having sex with or dating any man that asks. If you really do think about it, women are not that picky considering all of the men they actually do date or have sex with are often way less than perfect ultra-Chads. It makes no sense how Red Pill users will constantly masturbate about how different men and women are, then just constantly compare them. Red Pill users call women picky because they are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:06 PM
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On average probably. The average male is not a stand up comedian, so I would not use them as examples. There is also issues in quantifying “funny” as well. From personal experience I find women have a better sense of humor than men for instance, but that might be because I am a woman and I do not find male humor too entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:00 PM
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I mean they do demonstrate hypergamy, because the way Red Pill users typically choose to define hypergamy is contingent on what the latest science says. A lot of Red Pill users will use the OkCupid “study” as proof of hypergamy, and if you show them contradictory information such as the fact the study also shows women message men back in a more even distribution etc. etc. The definition will just change, so it is impossible to really argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 04:57 PM
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This seems to be the only acceptable comment that actually addresses the OP at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:38 PM
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But testosterone itself, along with it's major metabolites, has not been shown lead to anger or hostility. Archer, J. (1991). The influence of testosterone on human aggression. British Journal of Psychology, 82, 1–28. Van Oortmerssen, G. A., Benus, R. F., & Sluyter, F. (1992). Studies on wild house mice IV: On the heredity of testosterone and readiness to attack. Aggressive Behavior, 18. 143–148. Kouri, E. M., Lukas, S. E., Pope, H. G., Jr., & Oliva, P. S. (1995). Increased aggressive responding…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:52 PM
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You can find studies that show evidence for almost any view, this is true. What needs to be remembered is that not all of these sources are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:31 PM
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The Red Pill describes a broad set of blogs, subreddits, forums, YouTube channels and websites that are dedicated to "game". Some common Red Pill beliefs: Gender Essentialism Anti-feminism Masculinist/Neo-masculinity More right-wing/conservative political beliefs What is your moral characterization of RP? I do not really know, I think a lot of it is posturing. Things like manipulating people, I generally think are wrong. Outside of that it ranges from okay, to strange, to awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:06 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/6xnydy/how_to_get_aesthetic_physique_my_experience/ This post is literally titled How to Get An Aesthetic Physique + My Experience and gives a guide on how to get an aesthetic physique. I am puzzled at how you can get the message “sleep more, you will feel better; drink less soda, you will feel better; eat better, you will feel better,” out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:15 PM
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The issue with this line, is that if it is as frequent as you claim, it should be easy to find. For instance, I would claim that Red Pill users constantly botch evolutionary theories and misunderstand them, it is really easy to find such instances to critisize because it is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:13 PM
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Some of these posts are not even telling them to lift for aesthetics, but are literal guides on how to lift for aesthetics. This is clearly more than just lift, they are not trying to sell them on it but writing guides for people who are already sold. Red Pill users make arguments frequently as if there subreddit is private and people can not 1) read their sidebar 2) read what is actually posted in the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/dvm0sd/the_most_important_part_of_lifting_no_one_talks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/e374tg/beginners_guide_to_getting_in_shape_part_1_why/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/6xnydy/how_to_get_aesthetic_physique_my_experience/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/31mesm/quick_recommendations_for_building_an_aesthetic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1xm2x7/male_aesthetics_long_article_but_worth_it/ You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:05 PM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:00 PM
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Testosterone is one part of it, another issue is that men are often taught not to take out their emotions in other ways such as crying or they lack the social support systems to have people to vent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:57 PM
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As I have said this 100 times, people's fantasies have context and stipulations to them that is often missing. For instance, if someone has a fantasy of being a rock star; they want to have women adoring them, playing in front of crowds of thousands of people and partying, the fantasy does not include practicing for hundreds of hours or sitting in a chair for hours signing autographs or getting controlled by corporate overlords. The rape fantasy and submission fantasies would follow in the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:02 PM
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Men break things, assault people, murder, scare other people and other violent actions. Women crying might cause a few more tissues to be used, or in the worst case a trip to the hospital from anxiety. This is not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:41 AM
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This was really entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 12:58 AM
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No it isn’t at all, you just read extreme feminism sources Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 12:27 AM
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It is pretty well known in the men's rights circle they talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:40 PM
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Okay, you have read the book, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:09 PM
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I do not know why you are discussing a book with me you have never opened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:02 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:58 PM
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I believe he got that from the Madonna-whore wikipedia article, which is incorrect. I am going to edit it out later.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:55 PM
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I am reliable, supportive, fairly educated, I generally like to think I make good decisions and I have high levels of self-control. I think I am okay looking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:48 PM
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You are misunderstanding what Freud was trying to get at with the Madonna-Whore complex. He was saying that when men become damaged in some way in their development, they are unable to see women as people, so they either see them as a Madonna or a Whore. Freud was not trying to describe some universal facet of human behavior, but rather a defect that arises from unresolved Oedipal conflicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:43 PM
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What do you mean, I mean feminists talk about the Madonna-Complex only because Men's Rights Activists plot on ways to put women on rape farms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:40 PM
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Men's rights activists like to talk about ways to rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:17 PM
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While conventional wisdom in feminist circles has painted the Madonna Whore complex as a burden for women needing to fulfill multiple roles in a relationship Why do you have to make things up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:15 PM
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This will not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:59 PM
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Some men do feel this way, I am not too sure how common it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:08 AM
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It can make men feel threatened or insecure at times I would imagine, but not turn them off in any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 11:43 PM
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For anyone who wanted more diverse and novella posts, here is one for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:17 PM
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It is a concept with incel connotations. Typically when this is brought up it is also implied people ought to be with their looksmatch and if they are not it is unjust or unfair. This is what people ignore about it and why users like u/atlas_b_shruggin deny this concept and why moderators on here would remove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:09 PM
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I did, I made a typo, but it should be obvious from what I typed what I actually mean. It was edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:02 PM
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Women often do not like damaged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:00 PM
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Typo, I meant I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 08:59 PM
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No, I do not feel this way. I am sure men feel like it though, but that is not really too concerning to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:52 PM
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The topics might be the same, but that would be expected with an inquiry into any other subject. If you look at any debates in philosophy, anthropology or psychology, they generally stay the same, it is just different positions develop over time. My question would you or anyone else who thinks the debates do not substantially change, would be what other subjects would be discussed here that you think are not give any or enough attention? To me, the scope of what would be up for debate would be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:51 PM
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I really do not see virtue signaling happen on here. What is a lot more common is people doing the opposite and edge-lording over how amoral they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 04:32 PM
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I do not understand what those statements mean, so I am going to reluctantly disagree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 01:38 PM
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If I am not mistaken, I think you are describing alimony, which does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:58 PM
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You might like hiding from humanity by Martha Nassbaum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:48 PM
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So why not get to the point and explain why rp is true? You can still have discourse using Red Pill language without believing any of it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:40 PM
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Now threatens to take the house AND kids. I think prenuptial agreements are about how property is split, which property is considered marital property or not, protection from paying off debts of the other spouse and inheritance. As far as I know a prenuptial agreement will not help with who gets custody of the children, child support payments and pre-marital assets in most cases. One of the resident lawyers can correct me on this if I am misled about this, but as far as I know this is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:28 AM
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So you are saying that cheating on your wife is okay as long as you lie about it and they don't find out, right? What's the real difference here? Perception? That is not what the post is about, but yes I would probably agree with that to that end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 05:45 AM
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This is not a disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 06:45 PM
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Only the mods can tell me what to do in PPD, and I will behave as of expected of me by PPD rules, not what you ask. No, I don't care about your feeling Then I will just not reply or waste my time reading the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 06:42 PM
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Yeah, but what I'm saying is a lot of women get defensive when you ask to see the test result for proof. It signals you don't trust them I suppose if they are allowed to think that, then they can think that. What I am saying here is that there is also a chance she does not know about the STD/STI. I think if she does know she has an STD/STI and lies about it, that seems like it could easily affect the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:44 PM
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That post presumes sexual history provides crucial information or is important foundation for the man, hence she should lie so it isn't used against her. Yes, and I think when you do grant that, because of how they can misconstrue the information women are better off hiding it. I think some sexual history would matter, but the point is, is even if it does not matter women should still just try to be silent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:36 PM
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Sexual history can be just as relevant to a relationship as financial history or criminal history and all that If someone was in debt 10 years ago, and they are currently financially well off, I do not really see that as an issue, same goes for criminal history in some cases. A woman lying about her sexual history is no different than a man lying about spending time in jail. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:33 PM
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But opportunistic lying to present yourself falsely in a better light IS part of the foundation of a relationship I do not really think this is always necessarily the case. You would kind of have to evaluate how relevant that is. I think if it does not harm the relationship in the long run, such as lying about income or something similar to that could, it could be fine to kind of present yourself in a better light.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:27 PM
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I just made an entire post about it that you can read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:26 PM
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I think I could in some cases, I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:23 PM
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I am confused here, I do not think sexual past is something people build their relationships on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:18 PM
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I imagine there are sorts of things which you feel uncomfortable or guilty about which you will decide is not relevant because of your feelings which makes you a horrible candidate for a relationship at all. Perhaps, but this is not really an argument though, perhaps someone can make a private chatroom so everyone here can have give each other hugs and talk about how they feel about me. This post is not about me. If the details of something someone is guilty or uncomfortable about is relevant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:17 PM
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As I have repeated this to other users in this post, I do not think that basing a relationship on a lie is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:14 PM
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I asked you about the man lying to see if you did. Lying about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:13 PM
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because they don't matter to YOU I am not talking about myself in this post, so you can find that person who is and reply to them. That's no foundation for a healthy relationship As I have repeated to other people on here, I do not think sexual past is a foundation for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:11 PM
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No, what I’m doing is seeing whether you had a double standard about who should get to lie, and I commend you for being consistent on the lie being ok so long as it doesn’t really hurt someone. Where is this double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:08 PM
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You mean she's illiterate and couldn't read the test result? She could have never got tested and perhaps the symptoms have not shown up yet. I'm talking about asking to physically see the piece of paper showing the STI test result vs asking her to tell me what the result was (without verification). Yes, and I think that is reasonable to ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:07 PM
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You've made your view very hard to disagree with because it isn't a "costy" or "risky" view. I do not really think so, some people seem to have an easy time disagreeing with this. It seems like you just agree with the post, but really want to disagree with it. I agree your discussion questions would be great, perhaps you can make a post asking some of those or I will in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:05 PM
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Do the non-abusive men have an obligation to protect women and fix the things the abusive men broke? No, but it could be a supererogatory action. When people have moral obligations, it means that failure to meet that obligation is immoral. I do not really see men refusing to fix broken women as immoral no more than I think refusing to fix someone's house for free is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:03 PM
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If your partner asks you about your sexual history, then it's quite relevant for them It does not really matter to me if they consider it relevant or not. Some people think it is relevant if a political candidate failed at running a private business, this does not really mean that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:02 PM
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Believe it or not, most women get defensive about that. Asking to see the test implies there's no trust This is not even really about trust, people can have STDs/STIs and not even really know about them, and this will actually harm the relationship if your partner catches one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:01 PM
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His criminal record was in the past, he's straight now, why should the past matter? I agree it does not matter in a lot of cases. Or his past debts or health issues If the debt is in the past, this is fine and is a past health issue, same thing goes for that. When you take the role of dictator and unilaterally decide what should and shouldn't matter to lie about in the relationship, you're dooming it anyway. I am not deciding here though, I am inferring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:00 PM
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Oooooh and here I thought men irl don't care about n-count .There should be no problem revealing it then. Perhaps they do not, perhaps they do, but either way the better strategy seems to be dishonest. Anyway the main reason a woman should not hide her n-count is that it's very probable that the man will find out the truth later in the relationship Then he would leave either way. In situation one, where you tell him he definitely finds out in situation two he might find out. situation one, hidin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:58 PM
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Would it be Ok then, for a man to lie about his income and job status, to impress a woman for the sole purpose of getting in her pants? If she consented to the sexual activity and it did not involve hurting her in some way or breaking some promise, sure. But again, you are bringing up a different argument here and I would ask you continue that argument instead of bringing up a completely different point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:56 PM
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If she lies about her sexual history, we're supposed to assume she's 100% honest about STI status? Yes, but I mean you can literally just ask for an STD/STI test, this is not that unreasonable of a request.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:54 PM
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If one lies about it, it's because she thinks he would care, and if he would care, he will care even more when she lied about it. This can be a major lie or not, depending on the guy. Yes, and if he does not know, then it will not be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:52 PM
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The consequences will still be present. What consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:52 PM
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I am looking for disagreements here, not what you think about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:48 PM
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Again, no where in my post am I arguing to base a relationship on a lie. I actually do believe that lying about things such as status, income, age, health, criminal record etc. and basing the relationship on that will create problems. I just do not think sexual past is as relevant as most of those other factors. You will always afraid of your partner learning the truth. The options are being weighed out here. I think in most cases they will never find out about it, so it will not be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:48 PM
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lying as the basis of any serious relationship will doom it I agree with this, but I no where in this post is there anything suggesting that people should build their relationship on a foundation of lies, I actually do think that would fail. I do not think someone's sexual past is a major foundation for a relationship. Lying about your job, status, income, age, health, criminal record etc. could lead to issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:46 PM
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I don't agree that lies are a good foundation to build a relationship on. You are misconstruing my argument here, I am not telling anyone to build their relationship on a foundation of lies. I think this is a gross mischaracterization. I would not think relationships built on major lies about income, job, status etc. would last very long. These kinds of truths are easy to dig up if the man wants to, and to be lied to might be far worse than if she had come out with it in the first place. The opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:44 PM
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I am looking for disagreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:39 PM
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I do not really see government paid tampons as that much of an issue to die over. They turn privileges into rights What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 03:27 PM
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Yes, I do not really see why that would be impossible unless you have a really strange definition of rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:18 PM
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I am kind of doing a bit more reading on it, but as far as I can tell on the articles I am checking it is not necessarily incompatible, but there seems to be no consensus on it. I think my formulation was straw-manning the Catholic position a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:22 AM
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Really? This is kind of a surprise to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:07 AM
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here is nothing to prevent Catholics from believing in evolutionary biology that was kicked off by God but is not explicitly guided by Him I agree with this in a sense, but they deny natural selection, as I understand, is unguided. I think if they did agree with evolutionary biology, they would have to concede that the majority of work, accepted theories and people working in that field have strong disagreements with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:07 AM
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Catholicism explicitly accepts evolution They accept evolution, but this does not mean they are in acceptance of evolutionary biology. A crucial part of evolutionary biology is that natural selection is often held to be one of the most prominent reasons for evolution(others being gene flow, genetic drift and mutation). As far as I know, most Catholics would accept intelligent design, which contradicts natural selection, i.e. God guided evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:24 AM
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There are many Jews and Christians who believe in evolution The Christians who believe in evolution accept intelligent design, which is in stark contrast to most theories of evolutionary biology. Evolutionary theorists generally accept evolution from natural selection, and the intelligent design argument explicitly rejects that notion. I do not think it is possible to agree with contemporary evolutionary biology, considering how crucial the notion of natural selection is in it and call yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:18 AM
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