Are men owed responses?

Main_Following1881 · 2025-03-19T04:54:04+00:00

How is this a male issue, NO ONE likes being ghosted and everyone complains about it

grown_folks_talkin · 2025-03-19T12:46:13+00:00

Getting used to the fact women could cease contact at any time, any place with no explanation was like a rite of passage in our 20s. Helped with developing a thick skin and having actions not be outcome-based.

I was genuinely surprised to see women complaining about being ghosted in my late 30s. People complaining about being ghosted comes off as emotionally immature.

Efficient-Baker1694 · 2025-03-19T05:02:48+00:00

Technically speaking no we are not. But men would defiantly rather have closure instead of ghosting.

Conscious-Truth-7685 · 2025-03-19T06:07:57+00:00

I'm not really sure why people get so upset over this. One, if someone is that dismissive of the time you have invested in them, why give two flips about what they have to say or think? Two, if they were actually honest with you about why they were cutting contact, it'd just hurt your feelings, so why expect this. Three, them no longer wanting to have contact with you isn't going to provide any clarity or impact you in any meaningful way that would benefit you in the future. If anything, it's going to impact you negatively and make you more likely to regress and develop the ideas found on these pilled subs about the gender you are attracted to. At least if you are ghosted, you can convince yourself of some pretty benine reasons why it happened and still keep your ego/feelings in check.

Often, when guys aren't ghosted and women are honest about not wanting to see them again, they demand an explanation as to why, how they can improve and grovel for another chance or argue why they are wrong for feeling that way. Nobody has time for that nonsense, and it's often best for everybody to just cut contact if there is no way to move forward.

CarHungry · 2025-03-19T05:14:46+00:00

"Ghosting" assumes there was an actual relationship, so there would be a precedent. If you do that alot without good reason than you probably just weren't a very reliable person to begin with. Unfortunately that IS the responsibility of the person who relies on you to find that out, as it is ultimately their burden. It's sorta like going broke at the casino. Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose, as they say.

This also goes both ways of course, gender neutrally.

shadowrangerfs · 2025-03-19T12:18:38+00:00

No one is owed anything.
No one likes getting ghosted.
Men are just pointing out how much it sucks. Pointing out how something sucks is NOT entitlement.

DGenerationMC · 2025-03-19T04:58:55+00:00

No one is owed anything.

growframe · 2025-03-19T11:52:48+00:00

This isn't a gendered issue, women complain about ghosting all the same.

Are men owed responses? No, they aren't owed anything. But it's a nice and polite thing to do to give clear closure rather than just leaving the thread hanging.

Kanenas_T_Potas · 2025-03-19T19:18:37+00:00

No one owes another person a response, but giving one and receiving one is generally better. Getting closure, feedback, and perhaps even a reality check usually makes the person on the receiving end grow, but bearing in mind you argue that the ghoster is entitled to not care about that, I'll instead argue that a more open approach to a break up would even be more beneficial for the person who is doing the ghosting. Let me elaborate:

Ghosting generally seems like a legitimate way to end a relationship. Yeah, it's a dick move to the person on the receiving end, but most people have done it at least once, and going radio silent gets the message across.

The issue is, that unless you're deling with a scenario where your physical integrity is in danger, Ghosting will also mean that the person doing the ghosting is not going to get closure either.

When you ghost someone, you are basically pulling the dust under the carpet instead of cleaning it up. All the issues you encountered with that person, all the things you didn't bother to say, and all the feedback you decided to deprive yourself of will start to gather inside you, leading you to repeat negative patterns and find yourself over and over again in similar situations.

This lack of closure, lack of grief, and lack of processing your emotions properly, which is aided by sitting with the other person and honestly explaining why you are breaking up/ leaving them, not only will affect the other person negatively, but will also affect you, because ghosting also means pretending that the relationship never happened; it means taking all of the issues you encountered and brushing them off instead of confronting them head on.

When a person ghosts, he or she is depriving himself or herself of properly articulating why he/she is no longer willing to be with another person. At first it might seem easy, but then, all of the things you wished you had said, all the regrets and all the unresolved issues and conversations will come back; perhaps not in the form of wanting to get the person back but definitely in behavioural patterns that will lead the ghoster to future bad relationships and avoidance of confronting issues that he/she needs to tackle in order to get healthy, stable relationships in the future.

berichorbeburied · 2025-03-19T03:56:58+00:00

What a man is owed
Or what I would want is for a woman to completely block me and cut me off
I’m tired of women coming in and out of my life
I don’t need a response
Just stop coming back into my life
If you’re going to keep coming back into my life
Then yes I need a response
Because I don’t want to wait for the day you come back
And I don’t want to keep doing this over and over
I have more than 5 women in my life who does this
And it hurts me on a level that I can’t articulate

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funfacts_82 · 2025-03-19T08:27:47+00:00

I will cut contact the moment i decide its not worth it. Noone owes me anything and i dont owe anyone shit either.

Family is different but rando people no way.

AreOut · 2025-03-19T11:07:40+00:00

It's just retarded, that's all.

wtknight · 2025-03-19T12:24:52+00:00

They aren’t owed responses, but it’s more polite. Let’s say as a woman, that your company fires you. Wouldn’t you want to know the reason why so that you know what you did wrong and can adjust your future situation or behavior so that it is less likely to happen again?

Upper-Professor4409 · 2025-03-19T15:03:13+00:00

People are owed basic respect, and being clear that youre no longer interested is part of that. Ive never ghosted any of my matches, if I dont want to go any further with them I tell them so theyre not left in a state of limbo where they arent sure where we stand.

ta06012022 · 2025-03-19T15:06:34+00:00

My view is that people (men and women) are owed responses in a committed relationship. Simply disappearing and ghosting would be bizarre in that context. The explanation could be as simple as "I'm not interested anymore", but you can't just disappear.

If there's no commitment or other type of agreement to an ongoing relationship, I don't think anyone is owed an explanation. Like if it's a woman I've just been having casual sex with, I don't think I need to explain to her why I stopped contacting her for casual sex.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2025-03-20T00:46:48+00:00

In a perfect world no one would be owned anything but since the government make sure to give advantage to women at my taxes costs the last thing they could do is have basic decency.

Clean-Luck6428 · 2025-03-20T17:30:46+00:00

As a millennial, ghosting only started happening until zoomers normalized it. It’s just shitty behavior from immature people with brainrot who are detached from the fact that they are talking to a real life person. Granted most people I know who ghost all admit they’d prefer being ghosted than to have someone tell them that they aren’t interested. Guess they’re just fucked in the head

We live in a society where some people think honest communication should only be a privilege for people you’re attracted to/can benefit from

Granted on apps I don’t really consider it ghosting if someone stops replying when you haven’t met or built any rapport. I’m early 30s so mostly am interacting with other millennials or zillennials and they don’t really ghost much. It was a real shock tho when I got asked out by a classmate when I was 27 at university. We had sat next to each other in class and we chatted before and after every class. Absolutely bizzare to have someone like that ghost you. That was an eye opener that this is definitely generational

Illustrious_Wish_383 · 2025-03-21T03:14:04+00:00

No one is entitled to a response

No one is entitled to their behavior being rendered exempt from criticism, either.

Pepes_parrillaXXX69 · 2025-03-21T18:27:15+00:00

This is gotta be ragebait lmao

James_M_Croft · 2025-03-21T18:29:26+00:00

None is owned responses.

But it is rude.

Anti_Thing · 2025-03-24T16:57:15+00:00

I would say that it's owed in that it's the polite thing to do (as long as he's been polite & respectful, of course), though on a personal level I've been rejected that way (& in other ways) by women so much that I've become used to it. I tend to blame myself for not being inherently attractive enough or for not trying hard enough, rather than her, though I do my best to move on & to try to find another woman to talk to or something else to do ASAP.

Proudvow · 2025-03-26T03:40:48+00:00

No.

You are also not owed the cessation of communication until you make directly clear that's what you want.

Ok_Complaint4767 · 2025-03-19T14:27:07+00:00

No, we are not. Women don't owe us anything, just as we don't owe women anything

Title	Are men owed responses?
Author	Dora_Bowl
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Date	March 19, 2025 1:34 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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