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Love is just the excuse for why a woman allows herself to perform heterosexuality™. She is not chadsexual. She has simply managed to convince herself that she can achieve straightness with the man she loves. And I have no time for delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:58 AM
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I don't hate love. What I hate is when women expect me to play along with their autogynephilic fantasy simply because they like who I am as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:47 AM
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I guess that's how they work when comphet is doing the work in lieu of actual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:44 AM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:24 AM
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Sure. I'd actually love a long term FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:39 PM
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Literally proving OP's point. It sure as fuck sounds miserable to be stuck with a woman who can only see me this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:41 PM
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Sorry, I forgot it's misogynistic to expect to hold women to the same standards as men now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:18 PM
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most women are straight They sure are not. They literally choose a fucking bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:35 PM
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All I'm saying is if a man is really into lesbian porn, I'm thinking that's eggish behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:06 AM
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Plenty of women inject shit on their lips to look like weird aliens
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:58 PM
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Ao3 is an interest case. In between both of centreoftheselights' censi, the share of women has dropped quite significantly. Enbies are about 40% of the userbase now, and trans men are so overrepresented they now outnumber cis men. I find it likely that more and more of these women will come out over time as trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:55 PM
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Clavicular does as much to his body as the average woman. I believe both have an equal claim to being heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:36 PM
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You're right about that. There is. And if women won't be willing to even do the bare minimum, I'm better off without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:32 PM
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You mean Clavicular? People already say that's proof of them not being into women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:23 PM
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Lesbian porn actually is the category with the most female tilted audience according to PornHub's stats. And I can say as someone who tried watching it once, I really did struggle to relate to anything that was happening. Now, I don't really watch porn at all. I really do find it very tame, but lesbian porn was special since there was no one for myself to put myself in the mindset of. In fact, the one time I tried reading butch4butches is the closest I'll ever come to knowing what gender dysphor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:17 PM
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I sure would love that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:07 PM
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When the fuck has my life been about impressing people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:05 PM
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This is why it's so hard to respect women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:02 PM
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Radical feminists already made this point way before I was born. You should read Adrienne Rich and Sheila Jeffreys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:55 PM
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If only I could be a masturbation tool
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:51 PM
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What I'm saying is female sexuality is autogynephilia alone. They feel basically no target oriented attraction. This is why Tinder and Bumble are failures but Grindr isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:44 PM
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It's not really a pathology. That's just standard female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:31 PM
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Sheila Jeffreys comes closer, ackshually
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:14 PM
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To perform womanhood is a better description. It's not that it's necessarily fake, but it is fundamentally self directed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:09 PM
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But it's been found in 93% of cis women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:08 PM
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That's because of autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:51 PM
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It's a term originally designed to describe the sexuality of a subset of trans women as being fundamentally self directed, and seeking relationships to LARP the notion of womanhood. Charles Moser later found the concept applied to 93% of cis women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:50 PM
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True. Women are autogynephilic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:17 PM
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Oh, so you actually are ace because you're only into the attention from people without any suggestion of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:15 PM
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It sure as fuck is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:14 PM
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Literally autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:10 PM
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I can understand the notion of constantly faking attraction bevcause you've grown to believe you're heterosexual, but it's not something I can relate to. I think closeted gay men in relationships with women can understand it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:48 PM
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Context?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:35 PM
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We're not confused at all. We just don't like it because it spreads hate towards women. So surely you must get why men don't like feminism either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:21 PM
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At least she didn't make them listen to her music. She must be so merciful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:13 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:50 AM
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I'd cast my doubt on that. Plenty of cis men have been a very long time on endogenous T and don't end up looking that masculine. There's just too much individual variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:48 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:07 PM
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Not all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 07:06 PM
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it’s not fun to watch people like yourself be sexually objectified Bullshit. Basically all of the AO3 content I write features men getting objectified. My readership is mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure that's true for every category except sapphic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:42 AM
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To start with, her looks were nothing to write home about. But honestly, I was 16 back then and my standards were a lot lower when I was a teenager. And it's not like she was chopped either. So maybe it was just that she was too agreeable. Having had that experience actually makes me understand the PUA advice of talking down to women, because that's exactly what I was doing, and it apparently worked. And looking back on it, that dynamic didn't really happen when I was talking to other women. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:32 PM
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Bullshit. I used to have a simp who checked all five items you listed. I considered giving her a chance for a while, but nothing really came out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:53 PM
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I personally love knowing I'm more intimidating than a bear
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:49 AM
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I don't actually think she's malicious. Basically all of her posts involve a video less than one minute long and asking us to interpret what it means. So she just happened to find a video making a bad faith argument, and she legit can't tell what the answer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:39 PM
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I really am a simple man. Unless I've actually commented on your appearance positively, it's safe to assume I'm not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:35 PM
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I personally don't care about monogamy, but I really wouldn't push too hard against it since I'm quite unlikely to find more than one woman I'm compatible with anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:20 PM
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You'd be shocked. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:17 PM
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If what she's after is the performance of an emotional bond with marriage and 2.3 children, then I hope she enjoys the bear as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:57 AM
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Which means that if she responds to me when warm approaching only, then she only was after the person
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:50 AM
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Then it wasn't after me that she was in. Only at the performance of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:22 AM
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I'd say I'm pretty lonely, due to a variety of factors that have little to do with dating. I'm fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:12 AM
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By that same logic, men who are into femboys can be straight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:46 PM
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I'm a Peruvian and I can tell you that the Dems in 2026 definitely are not right wing. 2016 was the last time they ran a liberal candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:09 PM
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Two fucking LLMs talking to each other. I can't take this anymore, the Unabomber was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:31 AM
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The question is: is it worth it? Chances are you'll end up with some woman who's only with you because she cares about you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:29 AM
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Probably so. It'd be hard to see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:30 AM
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No sleeves and a low V line count as scantily clad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:14 AM
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Yeah, plenty of gay women seem to love her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:13 AM
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I just have a hard time believing the guy who places caps on credit card rates and complains about foreign trade as looting the nation is a lover of multinational capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:28 AM
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You mean the guy who caused the steepest 4 day decline in 2025 and later placed caps on credit card rates? Who's literally besties with Zohran Mamdani?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:09 AM
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The president is literally a peronist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:57 PM
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Broke: supporting same sex marriage because you support gay people Bespoke: supporting same sex marriage because you hate gay people and want them to suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:56 PM
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Which she is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:06 PM
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It's been a while since America got any right of centre government
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:05 PM
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Worst part is we already had one: her name is Abby Anderson. Gamergaters still got pissed. I really lost all sympathy I had for the movement when that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:57 PM
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No, I'm actually happy for those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:20 AM
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Being an incel is like being thirsty on a desert. Being a chad is like being thirsty on a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:14 PM
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So let's run the Z test score against assuming that less than half of women are autogynephilic: .93-.5=.43 sqrt(.93*.07/52)=.035 .43/.035=12.3 A Z score of 6 alone is enough to prove things in quantum physics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:17 PM
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Charles Moser actually found 93% of women qualified as autogynephilic: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:24 PM
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The majority of women are autogynephilic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:10 PM
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Yes, because it's not like gay men ever get hate crimed for their sexual behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:55 PM
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Everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:55 PM
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Ok, then I guess we don't need to give women preferential treatment. Now actually commit to identifying as straight or just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:19 PM
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I just hold everyone to the same standard. If that makes me a misogynist, then be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:15 PM
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Go to a gay bar. Only there will you see what attraction towards men looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:08 PM
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Most women aren't actually into men yet still perform heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:59 PM
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A lot of them
/r/MensRights11/03/26 03:06 AM
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For every innocuous act a man does, there's a feminist enough woman who'll say it's negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:44 AM
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What was the question about again?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:36 AM
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Her frequency of initiation is not that important, but she needs to be enthusiastic. I really don't want to feel like she can't see me as her sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:53 PM
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You'd first need to explain on what grounds you argue men are only attracted to young women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:02 PM
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given the choice between an 30+ woman with low chance of fertility and a 21 year old with high chance, what do you think the high-status, high-earning man will choose? With no other data, the 30+ woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:51 AM
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I totally couldn't imagine myself saying that. Except for not being party oriented, since I myself am not party oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:01 PM
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The blue pill is not at all sex work positive. It hates any outward expression of sexuality for being a tool of patriarchy and the commodification of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:49 PM
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You're free to do what you want, just don't complain when you do exactly the opposite of what you were told and it doesn't work out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:46 PM
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Why the fuck would I be watching OF? That would require me to support female creators, which is against my personal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:41 AM
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She only shows attraction under a preexisting emotional connection. She is into performing heterosexuality™.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:40 AM
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Because the man is still a prop for your self-directed fantasy. It's not that you are into the man, you are into heterosexual monogamy®.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:33 AM
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you have to filter out closeted lesbians too If you add ace women, you've basically filtered out 99% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:19 PM
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That's just the autogynephilia
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:17 PM
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What would you say is the ideal girth?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:48 PM
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If treated like shit is code for not being the centre of the universe, sure. When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:54 PM
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I think blackpillers really have set men's rights back by several decades by claiming Chads are doing well because of 80/20. The truth is women are not chadsexual, they're just not into men. This kind of rhetoric only serves to divide men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:49 AM
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Because they clearly are whom OP should be relating to instead of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:13 PM
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I'm not the one chatting with sexbots, am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:50 PM
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I can't be a sex toy for them, can I?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:44 PM
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If you need to be convinced to be into men, you shouldn't need to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:41 PM
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That's not better, sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:40 PM
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These kinds of questions are exactly why I don't take the notion of women being into men seriously. If all you were looking for was a guy for whom you'll never be disposable (he's effectively stuck with you), then you're not after a sex toy, you're after an emotional support prop. Just talk to an AI chatbot and leave us alone if that's what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:49 AM
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How the fuck is it that we can tell a post is AI generated just by reading the title these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:18 AM
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So now you get #notallmen? Is this really what it took?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:45 PM
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Well, do you happen to have a version where I can see the methodology? Otherwise it's just some guys with little credibility saying they made a study and found these results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:56 PM
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I'm a virgin, but I really imagine getting good sex wouldn't be that easy. If things are working with a woman, and we enjoy each other, that really is enough. Not that there would be no point in looking out for options, but I doubt anything important would come out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:53 PM
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Yes, because the null hypothesis is indifference whenever it comes to preferences. I don't make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:50 PM
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One doesn't prove the null hypothesis, especially not when it's feminists constantly raging on about beauty standards they can provide no backing for only as an excuse to blame men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:44 PM
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No, maybe reptilians like that. I'd need to ask one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:43 PM
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I really don't have full access, so I can't say because I don't know the methodology. But the journal is not really that trustworthy. However, I did find this in the abstract: However, we do find that grooming accounts for the entire attractiveness premium for women, and only half of the premium for men. You've just handed the blackpillers a very powerful weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:42 PM
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Yes, so universal that no journal of note has found support for it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:35 PM
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That journal has an impact factor of 2.34
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:31 PM
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Plos ONE barely has an impact factor of 2.6. The first source isn't even peer reviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:30 PM
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I too can make up a website on Wix and say there's a study from 2024 backing up any claim I want
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:25 PM
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They need to stop blaming patriarchy for their actions. They'll spend a bunch of money in make up and waxing products and then claim it's all about beauty standards. No bitch, don't try to blame men for your bad decisions and then lie about what men are attracted to. You don't get to define our sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:14 PM
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Then maybe the solution should begin by addressing the way trans and nonbinary people are treated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:34 AM
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The thing is feminists are only trying to deconstruct masculinity. They are very happy to preserve normative standards of femininity instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:18 AM
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I already wrote an entire post debunking that claim. If your gender identity feels like a burden, there's no reason to cling to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:15 AM
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If they actually were capitalising on female lust for men, OnlyFans wouldn't have such a massive gender earnings gap. The wedding industrial complex profits from autogynephilia, not heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:43 AM
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I'm saying Blanchard's findings on autogynephilia should be regarded as normative female sexuality. Julia Serano's later work heavily depends on the notion of women's sexuality being fundamentally self-directed, and she's arguably the leading transfeminist of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 11:20 AM
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Most women are not into men, plain and simple. I don't believe in chadsexuality. If it were true, 80/20 would be a thing. I really don't see much empirical backing for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:52 AM
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Yes, that literally is what Psychopathia Sexualis was meaning to address. 19th century psychologists were not detached enough to expect women to perform duty sex as an economic transaction, they really did explain why it is the emotional bond that serves as a trigger of arousal. The idea that their work simply existed to get women to accept miserable marriages is slander developed by later feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:34 AM
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Citing women who thirst over Chris Hemsworth is like the mfs here who bring up Morning Glory Milking Farm or Fifty Shades of Grey to conclude that all women enjoy CNC or teratophilia. It hardly is enough to draw population level conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:32 AM
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But if Moser's study was undersampled, that would mean Serano's debunking of Blanchard also is ungrounded for having so heavily relied upon it. And if that lacks credence, that would mean Whipping Girl also is unsubstantiated. There's no way transfeminism could rest upon shaky grounds, is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:18 AM
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It's not my fault that Natalie Wynn just happens to cite plenty of people who lend credence to the notion. Speaking of, didn't she break up with some Chad after coming to terms that her desire for men had been performative all along? I really wonder why that might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:11 AM
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Ok, do you think it is a misrepresentation of Serano's work to claim that female sexual desire is inherently self-directed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:53 AM
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Yes, and if you'd read my post with attention, you would've noticed how I literally mention it to back up my claims
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:24 AM
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If that was your takeaway from Whipping Girl, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:19 AM
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Also how would you know that women don’t experience sexual needs prior to desire? They would've shown them by some point. And if they did, they didn't care enough to make them forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:17 AM
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I, too, cite the work intended to debunk such theories. And they drive the point forward that autogynephilia, far from being an expression of male sexuality, is normative female desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:15 AM
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Why did they needed to get to know you if they aren't sexually attracted to you? Because that was a prerequisite to fill out the script. Like I argue in my post, this is what had been laid down in Psychopathia Sexualis: women don't naturally feel attraction for men, but it can be nurtured to develop between the boundaries of a normative romantic relationship. This is also explored by Ray Blanchard when he studied autogynephilic trans women. It is not that they actually desired sex with men becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:13 AM
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That doesn't mean that needs to preclude desire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:54 AM
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Do you think they would even have bothered to getting to know you if they weren't heterosexual? Well, they needed to. That is the thing: they bothered. It was a nuisance. Genuine sexialify never needs to be forced into being.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:52 AM
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They were clearly performative. It was like they needed to care about who I am as a person to even do so much as show an inkling of attraction. Which is exactly what's discussed in Psychopathia Sexualis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:12 AM
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That's my point. They're not, yet they still pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:48 AM
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I doubt even chads are doing that well. I don't really believe in chadsexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:44 AM
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Then why do they still performatively pretend to be into me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:43 AM
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And do you have any source that it's men in particular who push for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:41 AM
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That Americans democraticly elected one such guy. Of the four countries you mentioned, the only one to have had a relatively recent open election was Venezuela, and that still was over 20 years ago. Americans really do deserve the mockery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:12 AM
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Correction: woke women don't want to date guys like that. If things were the way you're describing, liberal and leftist men wouldn't be struggling to the same degree in partnering up. If anything, I'd reverse the causality and attribute Trump's gains among young men to increasing rates of singlehood, not the other way around. Young men in past generations were largely coupled up and tended to vote like their female partners, since couples tend to vote together. Now, than nexus is not there, so y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:10 AM
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him penetrating my body Not all sex involves penetration. woman's sexual expression is impacted by society, by biology and by viewing themselves through mens eyes That literally was my point when discussing autogynephilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:40 AM
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men often expect PIV as the default and will whine and push for it if it doesn’t happen Do you have any source for that? Violence is a risk for both. And if it were as strong of a factor, we should expect it to cut evenly. Yet it hardly has an effect on women's frequency of sexual contact within relationships. slut shaming plays a huge role as wel Like men who have sex with men aren't shamed and hate-killed either. They still seem to be hooking up just fine. So this is just an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:43 AM
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Ok, and when women who aren't straight to begin with also stop pretending to actually be into me I'll stop complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:56 AM
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Do you want women to just fuck you and walk off and not care? Yes, that is exactly what I'd wish to happen. But it seems to be too much to ask of the overwhelming majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:52 AM
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Sure, if you really want to defend the chadsexuality thesis, you can go there, that women are just so hypergamous that even 80/20 is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:51 AM
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The Kinsey Scale has been largely questioned for being problematic nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:49 AM
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Ok, that really is none of my business. I deserve better than being only a prop in their autogynephilic fantasises.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:36 AM
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That really does depend. Maybe you were too fucking busy that weekend and didn't have time for sex. Or you still lived with your parents and it was fucking awkward to bring them over for sex. It really is none of my business if you specifically actually are into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:33 AM
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I am neither a tradcon nor a radfem nor a transfeminist. I have cited the work of all three of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:23 AM
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Maybe a lot of things. Maybe those feminists are working for reptilians in an attempt to lower global fertility rates and have our species replaced by lizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:22 AM
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I reject self reporting when it is absurd. I do not validate serial killers who claim to be pacifists, nor spider collectors who claim to be arachnophobes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:20 AM
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If only sexuality was a choice. The fact that straight men exist goes to prove that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:18 AM
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I'll gladly help you in the fight to liberate women from heterosexuality as an institution
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:13 AM
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It's like they needed to care about me as a person to feel an emotional bond through which they could look up to me. It really validates what Krafft-Ebing had written in Psychopathia Sexualis regarding how marriage is a trigger to awaken a woman's supposedly natural sexual desire. Or, to employ modern terminology, they were autogynephiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:13 AM
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That's the difference between herbivore and vegetarian. If for some religious or ideological reason people are restricted from expressing their true sexuality, then that's an external factor. Yet women hardly are any more heterosexual in societies which restrict their sexuality less. And virginity is a complex question. Incelism is supply-induced virginity, for instance. I'd consider demand-induced virginity to be likely the result of asexuality or sex repulsion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:10 AM
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Radical feminists already addressed the question of lesbianism. Adrienne Rich wrote extensively on it being the natural predisposition for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:06 AM
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It's more of a disappointment from the women who have performatively shown interest in me. It was clear after a while that none of them actually desired me. Which means women do show interest in men they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:01 AM
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Identity precludes action. If a lion ate only grass, it'd be a herbivore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:54 AM
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I can feel arousal from both notions. I really don't think women feel externally targeted attraction all that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:53 AM
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Isn't the Kinsey Scale problematic nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:51 AM
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The difference is you do admit to having hook ups with a relative frequency
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:46 AM
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Because feminists have already written extensively on why women will consider themselves to be attracted to men when it's all a performance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:44 AM
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I am such a terrible person from expecting the bare minimum from a woman who shows interest in me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:43 AM
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sex as a whole is great given they have an attentive partner Exactly what 19th century psychologists were trying to induce. The women you're talking about were pushing for Victorian gender norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:42 AM
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That was exactly my point. Autogynephilia is normative female sexuality, not heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:40 AM
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Except that the moral panic regarding a lack of sexual norms among men leans into hyper (bi-)sexuality. The idea of men engaging in orgies is employed by bigots to create repulsion towards men. Religions have never needed to get men to believe themselves attracted to women, for it's been abundantly clear that the majority of men would still desire women. Even praying the gay away is regarded as an individual solution, not needed for the majority of men. Meanwhile, the effort regarding women has …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:39 AM
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Yes, this transphobic male sexologist whose work turned out to be an apt descriptor for the sexuality of cis women, as found by Charles Moser. It is very telling that, instead of denying the validity of his findings, Julia Serano built her entire framework regarding traditional vs. oppositional sexism on the notion that autogynephilia constituted the normative form of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:34 AM
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If you are looking for psychological studies, Psychopathia Sexualis is where it's at. It argued women's natural lack of sexual attraction could be overcome by the institution of marriage as women would feel a romantic bond to their husbands that would lead them to dervie physical satisfaction from sex. Ray Blanchard would later get very similar findings when studying trans women, a phenomenom he classified as autogynephilia. As Charles Moser later found, this dispostion is far from limited to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:32 AM
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Ok, do you think most opposite sex romantic relationships would exist without comphet?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:28 AM
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They're mostly attracted to a small percentage of men that fit their emotional, ohysical and mental needs The emotional aspect was already covered by 19th century psychologists who acknowledged women's natural lack of sexual desire could be overcome through the institution of marriage whereby women would come to feel a romantic bond to their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:27 AM
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This is actually where Psychopathia Sexualis comes in handy. 19th century psychologists found it within normal female sexuality to require romantic displays from their husbands to derive physical satisfaction from men. So the notion that they actually need to look up to their husbands, that it is a man's responsibility to overcome a woman's natural lack of sexual desire, as a part of responsive desire, really is a position that has been defended by 19th century psychologists who intended to lend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:23 AM
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Pregnancy can easily be bypassed by not engaging in PIV or acts that lead to pregnancy. There really is a lot of mutually enjoyable activities that are available. And as for violence, I'm not even sure casual sex is inherently more risky than commited relationships. IPV is rampant, so if anything, we might expect women to actually have sex more often through hookups than in committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:18 AM
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Then why did society even need comphet? We might turn to transfeminism instead. Julia Serano actually validates the notion of autogynephilia as a normative form of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:15 AM
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Except Moser did apply the survey to cis women, and found 93% of them were autogynephilic. And autogynephilia really can account for most of the female sexual response cited by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:12 AM
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Then I doubt your situation is normative. Unlike what the incels would have us believe, most women did not sleep around when they were younger. I do not discard the notion that some women might feel genuine attraction for men, but it can't be more than a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:09 AM
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Then we might turn to Ray Blanchard, who is of a lot of use because he wasn't actually intending to explore female sexuality. He found that autogynephilic women don't actually desire the man with whom they're having sex, but only heterosexuality as an institution in which they're taking part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:08 AM
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I think you severely underestimate the degree to which our society relies on comphet. Comphet exists for a reason, and without it it would be basically impossible to get women to have sex with men in a reliable basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:04 AM
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only that the systems in place do not leave them with any other choice. Which is to say the systems in place were necessary to get them to have sex with men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:03 AM
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My argument is that many authors from wildly different traditions and approches have still managed to agree on this fact while disagreeing on basically everything else. If I were to expect a proof of heterosexuality, I'd expect women who have easy access to sex, which is to say the overwhelmingly majority of them, to actually take advantage of that access. Not with me, they can do 80/20 all they want. If it really was Chad having easy sex with women, I'd believe the majority of women are attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:02 AM
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Do you think that, without the institutions that reinforce comphet, most existing marriages would exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:55 AM
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Julia Serano has written a lot on the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:54 AM
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Adrienne Rich did say women don't actually desire men and are only brainwashed into thinking they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:53 AM
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I'm not an expert, so I instead cited experts on female sexuality from a variety of contradicting traditions and approaches. They still agreed on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:52 AM
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And the three strains I've identified all agree that female desire for men is not a neurological reality, only a social construct. And radfems definitely don't think female heterosexuality is real. That's literally what Adrienne Rich was writing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:51 AM
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Are you actually, or is it just comphet? Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:48 AM
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200 years ago? Julia Serano is very much alive. I'd consider actual heterosexuality to be. as implied by the name, sexual desire for people of the opposite gender, not as a prop for yourself, but as a genuine object of desire. A good example of who doesn't count would be Andrew Tate, who has even gone so far as saying sex with women for pleasure is a sign of homo sexuality. He'd be classified as an autoandrophile instead of heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:47 AM
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Except women have actually shown performative interest in me in the past. My post actually adresses the question of why women can have, and even enjoy, sex with men under a variety of contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:44 AM
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Whatever you do don’t believe actual women about their lived experience. I actually do. I've gone so far as mentioning the takes of women from Simone de Beauvoir to Julia Serano in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:38 AM
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If she's not going to enjoy sex with me then she shouldn't bother pretending she's into me in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:40 PM
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No, now they just prefer men who are diseased so they won't need to see them again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:32 PM
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The difference is that money is scarce by its very nature. Sex can only be scarce artificially. So in theory anyone can give me sex (and even that is a bad framing, since it's meant to be mutually enjoyable), which is not the case with money. Or at least, they are not constrained in how much sex they can give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:26 PM
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I literally don't know what this question is about. It is a good day to not be an Instagram user.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:14 AM
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It must be so terrible to employ a gym locker room the way it was meant to be employed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:33 PM
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biological women deserve to be safe Safe from whom? This literally goes to show how trans women can be massively harmed by man vs. bear narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:29 PM
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That possibility actually sounds terrifying, because it means you could theoretically perform it backwards. Imagine if the punishment for a crime was causing you crippling gender dysphoria by altering your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:27 PM
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And in the context of gender, the prefix trans just means the configuration of an external anatomy assigned at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:18 PM
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Then I guess I can eat all the TRANS-fats I want, then, because they're not fats
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:59 PM
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Then why is Amanda Palmer so hot? Don't get me wrong, she is a terrible person. But she is still hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:38 PM
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Are these alphas in the room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:04 PM
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You really shouldn't. They deserve better than partners who will never be into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:04 PM
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I wear my hair short on purpose and speak my mind What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:23 PM
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It really is not. Medieval society literally had to invent courtly love because it couldn't get HVM to simp for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:32 AM
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Candace Owens seems to be doing pretty well for herself. Well, not psychologically, but you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:35 AM
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If that were true, no woman would have ever struggled getting a man to commit to marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:13 AM
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If they enjoyed sex with men, they sure wouldn't stigmatise PUAs for what they regard as pumping and dumping
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:38 AM
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But the women in question aren't saying men should exist authentically. They'll say it's problematic for men to not want to drink sweet colourful cocktails that taste like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:12 AM
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Not true. The most vocal supporter of pegging I know is a liberal right wing ambivalent-on-feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:10 AM
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Misandry against trans women really is so much worse. It was shocking to me to hear plenty of people talking about the man vs. bear while completely neglecting how that narrative hurts trans women. So, when bigots talk about trans women in bathrooms, they aren't expecting anyone to picture Hunter Schaeffer. It really hinges on people holding negative attitudes towards masculinity (also why Julia Serrano's framework is bullshit–it sidelines the struggles of gnc trans women). To them, trans women …
/r/MensRights22/02/26 03:55 AM
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It is bad advice for a man to get married at any age. Marriage is an instituition created to oppress us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:04 AM
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I don't think nerdy femboys are that rare
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:50 AM
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Women already invented marriage to scam men. It was time we could scam you for some payback.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:45 AM
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I'm a zero n count man and idaf about anyone else's n count as long as all of those encounters happened consensually
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:24 AM
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I don't know, maybe that kind of external feedback he receives from people pressuring him into being in unfulfilling relationships might be what's driving his alcoholism. Which is exactly my point: society is not nice to men whose lives don't revolve around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:46 AM
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Women already consider it as misogyny when they are held to the same standards as men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:03 AM
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That would be an option if they actually liked men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:49 PM
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It must be so awful of us to expect women who approach us to not act like they're settling for us
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:47 PM
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That thing about men not knowing what a natural look is is bullshit. Last time I said I preferred women without makeup on this sub, and got asked by a woman to name women whom I thought didn't wear makeup, she went, "um, ackshually they're ugly."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:43 PM
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Then don't have sex with people you don't like. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:03 PM
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It's no secret women don't like men that much
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:01 PM
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It sure is nice when people blame the victim. "If you're so nice, why do you make us look hateful towards you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:15 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=mgtow&cId=97e39f81-8fbc-4070-9540-3d086d5193f7&iId=3ae908dc-536d-4816-8739-3786b236ffa9 You tell me how many posts you need to read before you notice a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 08:11 PM
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And women hate that. Just look at how they speak about MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 07:45 PM
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That's misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 06:34 PM
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And then they wonder why we don't believe in the existance of straight women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:54 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/search/?q=mgtow&cId=97e39f81-8fbc-4070-9540-3d086d5193f7&iId=3ae908dc-536d-4816-8739-3786b236ffa9 You tell me how many posts you need to read before you notice a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:44 AM
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We already know women disagree. That'd been made clear when they first heard about MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:38 AM
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Nice point. But have you considered it is our obligation to have our lives revolve around women and refusing makes us misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:18 AM
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To be honest, your weight by itself doesn't sound like a problem at all (though it is important how you carry it, body fat percentages might vary a lot). If I'm thinking of the criteria for which I've rejected women in the past, the main have been a lack of ambition. If it only ever feels like it is her who is looking up to me, but has nothing to show for herself (no hobbies, no passions or drive), I'm generally not interested. But that only really applies when it comes to determining if I recip…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:17 AM
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I am such a terrible person for expecting the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:53 AM
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Hint: a DNA test is definite proof, but most will be able to know by looking at you in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:37 AM
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If this shit ever goes mainstream, I'll just have to become a cistercian monk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:24 AM
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i tell men to imagine the times tou had a birthday and your lazy girlfriend said sex was your birthday gift. Versus something cool or fun you wanted for a birthday Fine by me. It really is enough if she lets me go down on her for a couple of hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:32 PM
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Yes, I think there was also this group that was 13% of the population and accounted for half of violent crime
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:17 PM
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But poly people still regard their side partners as such. There's no such thing in the Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:44 AM
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That's only as regards to sex. They are still monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:26 AM
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Guess I really am doomed if I'm stuck with the non slut women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:42 AM
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It is on the floor if you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:09 PM
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If it was so obvious surely you'd be able to prove it with science
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:24 AM
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It never is the job of a woman to back up her claims, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:19 AM
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Not that you ever proved my preferences not being the mainstream with science
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:11 AM
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The thing is, you can't really explain what it means to be red pilled without bringing up The Matrix. Neo had a boring office job which represents everything society expected from him. It really has a lot of ramifications covering all areas of life, but considering this is mostly a dating forum, we might equate that with limiting sex to monogamous marriage, probably with the intention of raising children within the nuclear family structure. So, everything that supports pushing a normative lifest…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:48 AM
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Interesting how that includes makeup and shaving products. So women literally spend money on making themselves less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:42 AM
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Yeah, my biggest gripe with feminism is the sex negativity too. They love complaining about some very tame depictions of women in media while completely ignoring how often men get sexualised too (e.g. Chris Evans in the MCU, the Heated Rivalry Netflix adaptation, most male character designs in the Street Fighter series). Men hardly ever care about the latter existing and being very common in media, yet somehow when women get a fraction of that it's a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:00 AM
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True. All it takes is a look at r/SexPositive for one to notice that sex positive feminists will admit to feeling alienated from most of the feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:59 AM
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most women actually put a shit ton of effort (and money) into their appearances [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:39 AM
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Feminists would beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:17 AM
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Pretty much. It accepts the tenets of the black pill and proposes detachment as a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:41 PM
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Hunter gatherer populations have been universally observed to be monogamous. Which is not to say they never have casual sex while partnered, but holding romantic relationships with multiple people at the same time is not a thing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:58 PM
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This makes many women repress their desire for men they think are hot if they also like their personalities. Truly one of the comphet arguments of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:18 PM
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As designer babies become reality, women will naturally choose their babies to be born as girls. This really looks like the way to go. It leaves the few women attracted to men with an even ratio against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:12 AM
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Why would that be bad? It would mean there'd be no men left for women to oppress.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:26 AM
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Nothing happening in reality has shit to do with what feminists describe. In fact, Epstein's power can be attributed to society's overreliance on monogamous marriage, which empowered people who had access to secrets that could ruin powerful people's reputation (I really doubt all of the implicated entries on his list had actually been with minors, for relying on having secrets about everyone who happens to be an ephebophile would be far from enough; Epstein also needed to have included a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:34 AM
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Those are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:28 AM
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Horse girls are fine. Patriarchy is when men and horses run everything, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:15 AM
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You're talking about the few remaining liberals in the Democrat party, like Booker and Beshear. They're practically fringe figures by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:22 PM
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I sure love when women display toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:04 PM
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Swifties
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:02 PM
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If you're talking about the US, the youth vote is tilting significantly less Democratic than in previous generations. Namely, Trump made huge gains among young men in 2024. I believe this is simply due to the increasing rates of singlehood. Couples tend to vote together. Back in the day, being coupled with women brought a lot of young men to vote Democrat, but that pipeline is simply not there when they can't get a girlfriend. Particularly, I could imagine a lot of apolitical men who in the past…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:00 PM
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It doesn't really matter. Everyone has room to improve, and it's good that at least men are encouraged to do so. I find it a massive problem of society-wide misogyny that women are never expected to improve to the same degree. You don't really see any kind of content like that aimed at women. You can even see it in Hollywood. MCU actors are known for needing to keep up some streneous regimens (Chris Evans dropped a lot of weight after Endgame, and said in an interview he was relieved that stage …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 11:32 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 10:31 PM
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You should be, actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:16 AM
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That has nothing to do with my point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:40 PM
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I too have an adult woman fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:56 PM
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Women ages 18-25 aren't attractive very often. This isn't even to mention the problem of the oldest teenager in the room. I'm 27 and 20 year olds already are basically children to me. So I'd suppose men in their 30s would be even more demanding in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:42 PM
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Ok, time to tip your landlord, rentoid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:21 AM
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Yes, that's the actual practice. Doesn't mean the fantasy does involve violence. And after she marries Wynand, he isn't even doing CNC. It's normal vanilla sex (with full consent too). Dominique literally seeks him bscause she expects being married to him to be degrading by itself. It's not, which actually makes her hate the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:21 AM
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Hurting her totally is part of it sometimes. Going by The Fountainhead as an instance, Roark totally does CNC with Dominique. Her entire arc throughout the second half book is looking for a man whom she feels can take posession of her in the most degrading way imaginable. And the author did describe Dominique as herself on a bad day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:27 AM
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Are you really so misandric as to want to keep men around to emotionally abuse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:36 PM
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Either that or change society's gender ratio to make less men per women. Sex selective abortions are the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:21 PM
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I'm confident 95% of social problems could be solved by not offering women validation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:12 PM
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If by normal female sexuality you mean a comphet-induced delusion, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:57 PM
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I can tell by the amount of times (if spare) that women have shown interest in me after getting to know me. They couldn't actually desire me, they needed to care about who I was as a person to justify why they might just put up with physical contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:52 PM
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I wouldn't say they necessarily dislike them, but men in relationships are rarely ever desired. Comphet really is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:47 PM
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That'd be the particular case: women not continuing to seek relationships with men they don't actually like. The general case should be disaffiliating from thrir identity as straight/bi when they're not actually into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:40 PM
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I think it'd be enough for women to drop the performative attraction they often have for men. When a woman shows interest im me, I expect her to actually be into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:34 PM
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So again, the focus is on the duty of men to serve women better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:11 PM
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Ok, and what room does hooks leave for self love? There really is very little where she talks about it compared to the primacy of romantic relationships, implicitly with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:48 PM
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Except those who do. Alice Oseman wrote an entire fiction book on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:20 PM
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There are certain uniforms that men are going to find to be a turnoff. I doubt so. Men as a general rule have notoriously low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:17 PM
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Why are Tinder and Bumble failures but Grindr isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:56 PM
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But yet it's still common for women to be attracted tobmen who are tall, muscular, and stronger though. Newsflash: they're not actually attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:34 PM
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Ok, where does any of that leave loveless aros?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:24 PM
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Yup, right what a fifth columnist would say
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:22 PM
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Then what does she support according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:11 PM
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But for men who've internalized a lot of patriarchy growing up, that patriarchy is a barrier to a fully realized life So she's literally trying to create fifth columnists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:10 PM
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Ok, and must I assume it is only TERFs who claim that women not wanting to shave their legs or wear make up is actually internalised misogyny and vying for male attention by putting other women down?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:08 PM
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Idk, an author who constantly hammers in on love as a solution to structural problems and reinforces the centrality of romantic partnerships does sound amatonormative
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:07 PM
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She does view male emotional deprivation as structural. Regardless of the valodity of the claim, the issue is that she defines emotional health almost exclusively as the capacity for the type of intimacy required in a romantic partnership. If a man finds fulfillment outside of this structure, hooks frames this as a wound or severing instead of a valid variance in human personality. This is amatonormative to the core: if you aren't prioritizing Love (capital L), you are broken. Also, why does she…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:10 AM
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Uh huh. So her entire solution boils down to reducing men to love objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:51 AM
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As Tolkien warned us, the greatest tragedy is when the side of good performs terrible deeds, for that destroys the possibility of good ever winning. When she argues against the oppression of men, yet devises a system where men still need to conform to amatonormative standards, is when our alerts should be strongest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:46 AM
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It must be so empathetic to expect us to center our efforts on forming romantic relationships with women because it simply is our duty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:30 AM
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Doing that for the male gaze sounds quite braindead. How does that even appeal to men? Anyway, when I look up internalised misogyny in feminist subreddits, it's always them calling gnc women not like other girls and pick mes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:27 AM
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Ok, and must I assume it is only TERFs who claim that women not wanting to shave their legs or wear make up is actually internalised misogyny and vying for male attention by putting other women down?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:17 AM
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Guess the F stands for FedEx
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:07 AM
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My sister in Satan, feminists did harass the shit out of Imane Khelif
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:52 AM
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Feminists sure love upholding traditional gender norms. That's why they accuse gnc women of being pick mes with internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:10 AM
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So you think men should be caged within the monogamous relationship structure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:19 AM
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Except the fish and bicycle analogy is valid. Women don't need men, nor should it be the other way around. Yet bell hooks intends peaceful cooperation to mean men having the obligation to partner up. It simply is feminism with a human face, and has the potential to be even more vicious because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:59 AM
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That literally is implicit in the title of The Will to Change. Men are implied to be in need of changing so we can serve women better and be their allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:17 AM
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What advantage is there in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:16 AM
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Is there anything specific she said you have an objection to? Read my post again and say where I lost you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:10 AM
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Guess you did get me there. bell hooks is just feminism with a human face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:09 AM
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She doesn't really openly support natalism, her argument is about men having the duty to enter a romantic relationship through which they will be "rehabilitated" into allies of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:02 AM
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Then feel free to live burdened inside the nuclear family structure then. Literally what feminists have been defending the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:01 AM
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I don't have any direct quotes, but she's probably the main promoter of the argument on how patriarchy hurts men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:59 AM
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What does that have to do with my argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:54 AM
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Ok, so you do admit that bell hooks is arguing in favour of caging men inside the traditional family structure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:33 AM
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look at the amount of effort the average woman puts in her looks compared to the average man It wasn't women who invented looksmaxxing, was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:28 PM
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Is there even anyone saying the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:57 AM
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No, you are the one who made a baseless accusation regarding porn brained ideas. I don't watch porn, and I do believe, due to the incontrovertible observable reality, that women are not generally attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:05 AM
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I guess it must all be a happy coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:53 AM
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Yup, I guess I must have forgotten the time Marvel picked Danny de Vito to play Captain America and placed gratuitous shots of his body in every film he's in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:52 AM
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what do you call waxing, shaving, makeup every day and daily skincare routines are then? The first three are stuff that women do to draw male attention away from them. The other one is something metrosexuals were known for doing 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:48 AM
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Ok, which of those procedures has Katy O'Brian had?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:43 AM
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Then surely it wouldn't involve procedures and practices that ruin their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:36 AM
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I don't even watch porn. I wonder where I must have gotten the idea that women don't like men. It certainly can't have been observing women's behaviour, can it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:35 AM
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When have women ever done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:34 AM
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Those kinds of stories are about poor women learning to fit in within the upper class. Cinderella's problem with her dress getting destroyed wasn't that she would look ugly, but that a woman with common clothes wouldn't be perceived as a viable match due to being dressed like a poor woman. Likewise with María la del Barrio, she simply was uncouth and didn't know how to behave around rich people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:33 AM
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Literally none of that has to do with attracting men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:30 AM
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Literally when have they done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:03 AM
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I think that's simply because men have been conditioned to care about our own attractiveness more than women have. It sure wasn't women who invented looksmaxxing, so it makes sense that the average woman wouldn't put as much effort as the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:57 AM
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It’s because men don’t want to pay especially if the money goes to a woman Can confirm. I don't even watch regular porn because that would mean driving up visits for female creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:47 PM
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Stay single then, that's also a valid choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:44 PM
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Just look for men with no other options if you want commitment. There never will be a shortage of simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:24 PM
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you can see it in men who are against religion or liberal in general and still they prefer lower n women, It is not a choice, its just how our bodies work. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:24 PM
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That the problem is spamming, not sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:42 PM
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Are you sure all OF creators are spamming every tangentially related space?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:35 PM
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I have no hate for either OF creators or porn actors. It is a valid way to make money. That still doesn't mean I watch either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:25 PM
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It is a moral failing if they do performatively pretend to be attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:55 PM
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Their behaviour. For instance, I occasionally get a few guys in my DMs asking me for dick pics. The only woman who ever did was married and said how it was larger than her husband's, so I think that was a cuck fetish on his part more than her own genuine attraction. There's a reason why Tinder and Bumble are failures but Grindr isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:54 PM
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Female attraction towards men is overwhelmingly performative and propped up by a lifetime of comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:49 PM
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Actions speak louder than words. A woman can claim to find a man attractive, yet it is her behaviour that one should pay attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:40 PM
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Men too release quite a lot of oxytocin. So much that it'll often trigger a refractory period. So that argument is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:34 PM
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Uh huh. I can claim I love McDonald's all I want and not once go into one to make an order too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:29 PM
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All I'm doing is enforcing healthy personal boundaries. Which misandric women hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:24 PM
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Not all forms of sex can result in pregnancy or STI transmission
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:23 PM
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You just want casual sex and, for some reason, won't admit it That has literally nothing to do with my question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:19 PM
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If she wont fuck strangers, that means she's not attracted to them Where's the lie tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:13 PM
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I'd cast my doubt on that. If my 4 year old nephew said he already considers himself a man, I wouldn't think he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:12 AM
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Should we just assume any sex, or do you need to make your partner orgasm? See, I can also draw arbitrary boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:10 AM
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Yes, honey, oppression is stored in the balls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:52 AM
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Boy do I have news for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:22 PM
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That really is a weird claim to make considering how the latest federal tax break in the US will have basically no net income effect on the top .1% of earners. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/07/01/ten-charts-to-explain-trumps-big-beautiful-bill
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:12 PM
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That only shows women identify as more liberal than before, which is completely unrelated. In fact, I'd cast doubt even on women being more liberal than men since the men I know are, on average, more liberal than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:07 PM
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Then men should actually insist when their wives tell them they don't want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:09 PM
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You did say humans weren't supposed to be monogamous. Which isn't backed by anthropology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:08 PM
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That's exactly OP's point: leftists attribute singleness to socioeconomic changes. Which might be a correct assessment to some degree. In fact, woke gap relationships are such a meme I'm not even sure the political mismatch might factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:05 PM
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That claim is about women's behaviour not aligning with their actions. Which I don't even think is that common of a belief among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:01 PM
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To begin with, this post literally is an excuse to accuse men of stuff they didn't even say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:56 PM
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Singleness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:55 PM
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Similar to men trying to get their wives to engage in sex after wives declared they arent interested or attracted anymore. My sister in Satan, OP literally was complaining about men not insisting after being turned down for sex. So it's all just an excuse to blame everything on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:54 PM
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Correction: people weren't supposed to be lifelong monogamous. Anthropological studies on hunter gatherer populations consistently find patterns of monogamous relationships, which aren't expected to be sexually exclusive in all populations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:52 PM
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Basically every post you make is an accusation against men without any backing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:48 PM
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Let's not deny them credit. A lot of young men did vote for a literal Peronist simply because he postured as anti woke. I doubt this strategy would've worked on the youth one generation ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:40 PM
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Meanwhile, guys in the sub cant even give an explanation for the claims they have against me. They can. You just don't like the explanation and pretend you never read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:36 PM
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Do you have any evidence of women being significantly to the left of where they used to be? I'd even go so far as saying the furthest left people I know are men. But that might just be me talking to men more often, so there's a sampling bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:34 PM
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Probably. I'd at least say progressive women used to partner up with largely apolitical men and make them sympathetic to progressive causes. That transmission mechanism is no longer there, so now we're settling on the natural affiliations of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:32 PM
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It's no secret leftists love the 50s. They love sharing that chart of real productivity against wages. And they do have a point as regards to the cultural factors that made it easier for the left to be a politically relevant coalition. Simply put, the conservative shift among young men can easily be explained by singleness. Coupled people tend to vote together, so it stands to reason that women in the past would have held a moderating tendency on male political affiliation. If you are judging so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:11 PM
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Don't you get men are responsible for anything women assume they believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:42 PM
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They're definitely not. Women with a high bodycount are healthily enjoying their sexuality. Men with a high bodycount are misogynists with a fear of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:52 PM
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That's only how female sexuality works wrt men, whom they're neurologically unable to be attracted to (with very few exceptions). Sapphic sexuality is rarely ever extraction based.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:43 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:31 PM
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Do restaurants even have gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:19 PM
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men of all ages openly admit that they’re most attracted to 18-22 women That's basically any category you can rank. You could also claim anyone, regardless of gender, will like 18-22 restaurants the most, or musical artists the most. And the number is irrelevant too. That argument would work for basically any number that wouldn't exceed an individual's capacity for rank. It really is a terrible argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:38 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_Heterosexuality_and_Lesbian_Existence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:56 AM
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Correction: you know more women afflicted by comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:46 AM
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At least you admit you subscribe to gender essentialism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:39 AM
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Why would a woman ever want a man? Their neurology isn't wired to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:06 AM
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I doubt you'd find any less posturing among coupled people talking about how much they love their relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:51 AM
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I don't think ugly women have it any harder. Simps are gonna simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:47 AM
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I don't think anyone owes anyone a relationship. Especially when it's obvious most women are neurologically incapable of felling attraction towards men. Would you really want to have a woman who won't ever be into you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:07 AM
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The takeaway here is that applying to jobs is hard. No need to take gender into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:00 AM
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real
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:39 AM
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Yes, that is a completely sound reasoning for the gender that is mostly straight
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:04 AM
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It's not their fault either. Comphet is a nasty beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:01 AM
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That's because most men are straight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:57 PM
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Because it clearly was all performative and couldn't see me as a piece of meat. It's as if they needed to care about me as a person to pretend they were into me. I deserve better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:43 PM
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Except a few women have performatively shown interest in me in the past. It really does make it quite obvious how none of it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:35 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:34 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:24 PM
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Well, they're not attracted to men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:17 PM
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Guess closeted dudes who have women as beards are also straight now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:16 PM
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In The Matrix, Morpheus offers Neo a blue pill which will allow him to return to his normal life as if nothing had happened. Thus, the Blue Pill is a normative set of expectations imposed into people. For men, that generally involves the duty to settle and raise kids within a monogamous marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:56 PM
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Well I sure don't want children. Guess I'm stuck with the 21 year old. Which is not an issue provided she's mature enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:35 AM
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30 year old. The other one sounds too young for me. Though it still depends on what you mean by traditional wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:29 AM
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observing patterns and trends Literally the alt right dogwhistle
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:24 PM
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As always, no sources for any of your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:05 PM
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From the perspective of a white person, it isn't "blacks get killed more than whites," it's blacks kill whites more than whites kill blacks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:02 PM
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Well, I'm pretty chopped myself, so I guess I'd have to pick the former simply due to being close to the floor
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:52 AM
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It sure is a way to get men with no standards. Specially given her looks. I know I'm chopped myself, but not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:10 PM
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Showering. I definitely remember I used to be terrible at hygiene when I was a teenager, but women were a lot more likely to be into me (or at least pretended to) back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:29 AM
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Men shame other men like me for not being manly because they don't get off to trafficked women on film Bullshit. I've never been shamed due to my lack of porn consumption, and I will willingly stand behind anyone who is being shamed by others for consiming porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:39 PM
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When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:44 PM
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It's always the most privileged people who complain the most
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:04 PM
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Guess if a lesbian is exclusively attracted to butches due to the masculinity that they present, she's straight too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:13 PM
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It's actually a w if I find out she has a line of dicks yet still fucks with me every once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:02 PM
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Yes, the total tax burden includes sales taxes. Poor people spend a higher share of their income, so that affects them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:00 PM
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Rich Americans are taxed more, though. The tax system is built around making the lower and middle classes pay basically no taxes. In Denmark, the top 10% of earners pay a lower share of their income than the bottom 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:51 PM
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Guess you must have forgotten which country is the world leader in knee replacements. Good luck getting your insurance plan covering it anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:50 PM
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The dollar is losing its place as the global reserve currency. That transmission mechanism will no longer work pretty soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:48 PM
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A lot of RP theory suggests that past that age, women are simply unappealing to men [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:21 PM
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Consider how even Chris Chan got a gf (Flutter). She simply became massively famous and that's what it took. The point being that if you expand your pool enough, you are guaranteed to find someone who'll be into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:48 PM
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Thank you. This means so much coming from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:46 AM
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Then how does women shaving and waxing serve men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:14 PM
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So yes, they do it for themselves, but because someone imposed on our heads that's what is pretty and what isn't. So they blame patriarchy for their own choices. Women are notoriously allergic to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:45 PM
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Women will repeatedly say none of that is to attract men and, judging by how it makes them look half of the time, they should be believed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:20 PM
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That's only because men are expected to take care of our appearance. It wasn't women who invented looksmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:53 PM
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The only proof I need is how Tinder and Bumble are failures but Grindr isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:31 PM
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Like I'm getting any sex to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:46 AM
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My bare minimum is what I'd expect of anyone who's going to be in a relationship with me. I happen to be exclusively attracted to women, which is tangential to this discussion. It is not my fault that this is too tall an order for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:18 AM
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My point is that having sex with a prostitute in this regard is no better than 99% of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:10 AM
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We must be such misogynists for expecting the bare minimum from a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:05 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:32 AM
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The only winners of the "gender wars" are the corporations who use peoples lonelyness to exploit them. It always comes down to juridophobia, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:58 AM
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Women just aren't attracted to men, as a general rule
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:59 AM
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Most of the time, yes. Most women are as capable of genuine attraction towards men as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:41 AM
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Same as most women in a relationship with a man. There really is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:38 AM
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Prostitutes don't actually crave sex with their customers, generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:29 AM
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Like the goal is to be considered appeasing to the eye I'm not misogynistic enough to think women are stupid enough to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:16 AM
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You don't get to decide what men are attracted to. You don't own our sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:11 AM
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We pluck our eyebrows. We wax or laser body hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:54 AM
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Yet you described instances of women deliberately making themselves less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:31 AM
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I'd just rather have a woman be actually into me beyond that performative attraction they'll show when they care if I show "good" traits. But I acknowledge that's too tall an order for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:03 AM
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Well, I'm not having sex with someone if she can't see me as an object either
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:57 PM
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Being guaranteed an orgasm doesn't mean it's a good orgasm. If it's between a mediocre orgasm after two minutes and a 4-hour session where I'm incredibly sweaty yet don't orgasm for some reason, I'm picking the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:54 PM
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I'm really put off by the notion that women are meant to reward good behaviour with sex. If she treats herself like a prize to be won like that, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:49 PM
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Is it too high to want a man you feel safe with, who sees you as a human being and cares about your feelings I'd feel miserable if a woman picked me for this reason
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:45 PM
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Not even men picked by women who lowered their standards. That too sounds miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:38 PM
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That's a terrible idea. This is how men end up married to women who're not into them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:34 PM
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This. Hypergamy is a force for good in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:25 PM
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Yes. I expect women to do the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:20 PM
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We live in a society that overly-sexualizes women. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:16 PM
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Lets assume you're right, what do you propose? Like you stated the "fact" what are the reasons why it is in a place and what might be a solutions? Women could simply stop pretending to be attracted to men. We know it's also a minority of men who are attracted to men, yet men who want to find other men generally don't find much issue in that regard. This is because when a man tells you he's attracted to men, he's incredibly likely to be telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:55 PM
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To say that women are straight is only to say that they expect a man to simp for them. All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight women reserve exclusively for other women. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:50 PM
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IPV would be so fucking high if that happened
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:43 PM
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If you are dressing to be attractive, it does not matter what you like or what is most comfortable. Attraction is not about you. Women understand this when it comes to fashion and grooming. That is why phrases like beauty is pain exist. We pluck our eyebrows. We wax or laser body hair. We do a lot of uncomfortable, time consuming things to maintain ourselves. So you do admit women delibarately handicap their own attractiveness and still get a lot of positive attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:42 PM
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Except most "straight" women are faking it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:55 PM
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27M in South America, atheist. I think sex is a shared activity where you can enjoy being mutually accountable for each other's orgasm. It's your way of telling someone you trust them with having a blast. Sure, masturbation can be nice, but you don't get to turn another person into a puddle of sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:47 PM
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Companionship sounds nice tbh. I'd ideally have a long term fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:33 PM
1

Just as a curiosity, which pill sees men as objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:30 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:24 PM
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Agreed, you can shirk gender roles but that carries the cost of having to replace friend circles, and sometimes distancing/estranging family members. I guess it depends on how far you go? Which is why the corollary should be that society should be more open to people not wanting to identify with their AGAB. If they simply feel like it's a burden, as it is apparent many do, they should be free to leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:11 PM
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My post was about how feminists actively seek to deconstruct traditional masculinity and label as problematic not to want to drink a fruity cocktail that tastes like shit. However, when it comes to traditional femininity, feminists will be the first to argue why everyone AFAB needs to have such role pushed onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:58 AM
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All I'm saying is a woman would be better qualified to say if it's normal for women to feel a certain way. But the principle remains that, if you dislike your identity, it only is a drag on your life. It is one thing to complain about your job and another to feel like it is a prison (which it is to a lot of people, and I wish the job market was in a better shape so they were able to quit and look for something else).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:55 AM
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Is there a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:53 AM
2

idk, it's you who feel like being a man is a prison. Which identities don't feel like one to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:49 AM
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The issue of what it is or isn't normal for women to feel or want is not one I'm qualified to weigh in on. However, I can say that, as a man, masculinity has never feel limiting. And I'm no Gigachad, so this is definitely not me speaking from a position of perfect alignment with traditional masculinity. And yet, I'm constantly hearing plenty of people speaking on how masculinity is a prison. Which I agree it shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:42 AM
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Except holding careers can be feminine. The girlboss is a feminine archetype. If I dressed like one and posted pictures of myself with the caption "Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss," people would regard me as feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:29 AM
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You simply don't need to identify in ways which make you miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:27 AM
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I just find it more practical if those whom our notions of gender don't serve are free to unsubscribe to them and lead their lives in accordance to who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:22 AM
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The question is whether aspects you dislike have to be universally harmful. For instance, plenty of people who talk about the male loneliness epidemic hardly ever pause to reflect on whether the notion of society not caring about men as a rule is necessarily limiting. I argue it's a freeing notion to those whom it suits. So if you don't feel happy being who you are, I would advice transitioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:14 AM
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That your gender should spark joy. If it feels like a burden, you don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:52 AM
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I don't get where any of those accusations come from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:07 AM
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Yes, in a manner beyond curiosity and amicability. I really wish my own personal issues to be my own without heavily upsetting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:58 AM
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It's valid to not want to medically transition. I do not subscribe to transmedicalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:49 AM
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I only argued on relation to the part of having others care about how you're doing. It's completely fine to have deep personal bonds. But I can't relate to the expectation that others should be concerned about you. I find it incredibly freeing to know that, because of my gender, I am free to fail if things go wrong. There is a lot of joy to be found in masculinity for those to whom it is meant for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:41 AM
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It's not the fact that men will just lose interest if there are other options. Even absent of that, it just shows low commitment if you do not want sex. I deserve better than low commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:02 AM
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This kind of rhetoric only serves to divide men. I doubt Chads are doing great either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:05 PM
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So your entire argument is that it's better for you to be with a guy who is relationship material. Your entire framing is extremely solipsistic by only assessing how the arrangement serves you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:04 AM
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Wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:59 AM
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This exactly. The relationship material is selected by a muddled signal. He likely isn't actually desired because there were just too many multicolinear criteria. It's the first guy who can be certain he was picked for the right reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:53 AM
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Not if you're only fitted to the noise. Which is what your second model effectively does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:41 AM
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I don't even watch porn and can tell your argument is bullshit and misses basic statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:40 AM
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Any group of vectors hardly ever are completely mutually exclusive, especially if you add several at a time. And overfitting is bad. This is Statistics 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:36 AM
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That's not how statistics work. More parameters means more colinearity. Every parameter becomes less efficient, so you can't afford to keep adding criteria you don't actually need. So more parameters are great if they hold any relation to your target variable, but otherwise they should be avoided like the plague. In this case, it just muddles the indication of desire. Since the criteria for hookup material is already great, anything beyond that will likely only generate overfitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:31 AM
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The problem is when women still show performative interest in us without intending to treat us the way we deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:26 AM
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Anyone with a cursory knowledge of statistics will know that increasing your number of parameters will necessarily reduce the efficiency of your estimators according to their colinearity. Thus, an estimator muddled through a massive list of parameters will hardly tell you anything. So it's not flattering at all to know that you included a lot of criteria, as that effectively means the end result will probably be overfitted. I lose the privilege of simplicity from knowing that she picked me for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:21 AM
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I sure wasn't expecting to learn about the backwards bending sex supply curve when I clicked on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:15 AM
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Cardiovascular disease, cancer and suicide can all be partly accounted for by smoking and drinking. Which, as I already showed by citing data from Utah, can't account for all of the life expectancy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:14 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expectancy Utah still has quite a significant life expectancy gap, even if lower than that of other states. So psychoactive substances only account for half of the death gap at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:01 AM
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Men live shorter simply due to testosterone-related health issues, not laziness
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:11 AM
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I actually meant it in a "not rubbing too strongly before the precum comes out" way, but sure. I really don't view relationships in that transactional way where she'd owe me caring after me when I'm down as a result of a checkable balance. What matters is that she desires the sex, not that she has to show me she cares about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:27 AM
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Good thing I wouldn't expect her to make sure I'm ok outside of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:18 AM
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I totally do find it healthy to discuss what all parties involved expect going into the relationship. If your partner has uncompatible preferences, the relationship will only be a cause for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:13 AM
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That's the thing. It's also why the "would you date me if I was a worm" question was so fucking stupid. What I actually need to know is if she'd still lust after me if I was an Andrew Tate fan. And if she wouldn't, it's best to only stay as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:11 AM
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That actually looks like a sound strategy on his part. He gets to filter out the women who will only be into him bc they actually like him as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:02 AM
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Babe, wake up. New slop post just dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:25 AM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:51 PM
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It literally is rooted in thinking of sex toys as dirty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:50 PM
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Their tongues still worked, didn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:49 PM
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Sex negativity is one hell of a drug, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:48 PM
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If all she cares about is who I am inside then she should keep looking. I deserve better than someone who won't se mee as a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:16 PM
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Would be nice if more dudes looked at us like people instead of objects though. That would be a dream come true for many of us ladies. Way to piss on the poor
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:59 PM
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The problem with those photos is that most of them aren't even trying with showing us the aroused state. Also, not to body shame anyone but some of those don't even have hair. If she tries enough, some of those pics would surely be inviting during conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:09 PM
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Bullshit, eunuchs are recorded as having longer lifespans in premodern sources
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:02 PM
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Do you even know what strawmanning is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:56 PM
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It's not a strawman; you literally made an argument reducing people to their bodies along arbitary lines. Which, by necessity, excludes people outside whichever category you're grounding yourself on. If you're talking about medical issues, you should mention people with an uterus, people with ovaries and so on. None of which are perfectly overlapping categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:52 PM
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Plenty of intersex people can get AMAB and still suffer from some of those issues
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:40 PM
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That's exorsexist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:33 PM
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As men do not have female sex organs they do not have to deal with common medical issues relating to it or birth control. (Endometriosis, PCOS, pregnancy, abortion, birth control, period pain, pain during sex, hypertonia, hypotonia, tearing in childbirth, birth trauma, C section, placental abruption, placenta accreta, preclampsia, extra-uterine pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy, anemia, uterine fibroids, PMS, PMD). Men can suffer from all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:32 PM
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All men are 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:52 PM
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And what was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:59 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:57 AM
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If I like her, that'll be enough for me to want to turn her into a puddle of sweat when we're together. A fancy date might be nice for a few special occasions, but I do try to be thrifty and wouldn't change that lifestyle just for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:59 PM
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I sure don't want children. As for emotional intelligence, I'd probably tell you I have it, but most men probably would say the same. Who's to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:00 PM
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What are you hearing exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:59 PM
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Is there a context for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:54 PM
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Both exist, but operate at different levels. So society can be biased against women and against masculinity at the same time. Men simply are given more leeway as to how masculinely we can present, even if it's not wholly free from scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:51 PM
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I do acknowledge misigyny. Society is biased against women. However, that doesn't translate into society being biased against femininity, despite what feminists might pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:01 AM
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It's not disingenous because they're actually not straight. They literally feel like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:02 PM
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It just means I need to looksmaxx before entering the market
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:01 PM
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You are not the CEO of the male gaze; you don't get to control our sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:47 AM
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As always, women assuming they are the ones who determine what men can and can't be into
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:17 AM
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It's not my fault those artists on tumblr make Butch Wolverine look so hot https://www.tumblr.com/drizzledrawings/759622228253999104/butch-wolverine-occupying-my-thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:11 AM
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It's not exactly hard to find men who find a penis in a woman attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:09 AM
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And then they say it's us who are porn brained
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:48 AM
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It actually is. The main reason don't consume porn is I don't want to support women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:38 AM
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Guess I have to head to the supermarket and make sure they're not employing anyone who was abused as a child. I certainly don't want to be complicit with CSA.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:34 AM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:23 AM
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I generally respect women who show competence at different areas. I've actually found the opposite: it's women who are uncomfortable with a man being worse than them. On more than one occasion, women only began to show interest in me after I'd proven myself to be competent on my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:15 AM
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You must know nothing about men, then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:11 AM
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Those men just don't frequent this sub. Should I see myself out or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:10 AM
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You must know nothing about men, then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:09 AM
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Feminists will hate on any GNC woman because they see them as pick mes with internalised misogyny. Or worse–just look at what happened to Imane Khelif.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:14 PM
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most feminists don’t argue to abolish gender norms, we argue to remove the necessary restriction of it Not true either. They are the first to label GNC women as pick mes suffering from internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:45 PM
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True. Feminists love gender roles. They'll accuse any GNC woman of being a pick me vying for male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:19 PM
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You must think it's so flattering for others to want to oppress you with the number one institution that oppresses men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:04 PM
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Sure. I do still have the opportunity to give her the time of her life and have her call me back some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:45 PM
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I dread being thought of as husband material in any shape or form. Marriage was an institution designed to oppress men. It is not flattering at all for others to want to oppress you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:42 PM
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Or so comphet-induced women argue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:31 PM
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Men are most attracted to women about 18-22 regardless of their own age, it’s not that they aren’t attracted to older women, but a woman will always become less attractive over time. Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:19 PM
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It really sounds like a you problem if he doesn't want you to enjoy yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:14 PM
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Quite telling on yourself that you've framed yourself as the company selling the product in this analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:04 PM
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Literally transmedicalism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:14 AM
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I do care, though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:11 AM
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Well, are those the kind of men you're interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:37 AM
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I really doubt it takes that much to know a person enough. When applying to a job, I often tend to have second thoughts if they mention there being more than two interviews, because that means they probably only want to make me lose my time. There are exceptions, sure. I once applied to a company with three interviews, but the job really did seem like a catch. The process got cancelled after the second interview, though. My point being that if you are exceptional, expectations might be bent a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:15 AM
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Finding a good man might not be exactly easy, but it sure is easier than finding a good woman. It's just the law of numbers that the more suitors you have, the better your chances will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:08 AM
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Sapphic marriages also have way higher dovorce rates than achillean marriages, with opposite sex marriages in between. Women just tend to have a lower threshold for initiating a divorce, regardless of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:03 AM
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Good job trying to shame men for expecting bare minimum treatment. If she needs to get to know me, I'm simply not interested. I like to think I deserve better than a woman who can't see me as a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:36 PM
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Those who do get accused of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:39 PM
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You must be living in a separate reality if you don't think MGTOW get accused of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:35 PM
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He asked for mine. He never gave me any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:51 PM
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My point being that women have no excuse to not do the same if they claim to be attracted to men. They deserve better than leading a life of pursuing relationships with men to which they've been conditioned under comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:47 PM
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When confronted with evidence that others did enjoy sexual attention, your go-to answer was saying it made you think of being the target of violence. Because it's simply not natural for you to conceive of yourself having consensual sex with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:20 PM
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Few people are bold enough to admit the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:17 PM
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Well, this week some gay dude requested a dick pic on my DMs. Suddenly I don't feel sad due to the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:39 PM
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It's easy when you're faking your heterosexuality to only ever imagine sex with the opposite gender as nonconsensual
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:37 PM
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Source: you made it up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:34 PM
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for me to desire and enjoy sex with a man, i need to have feelings for him Truly one of the comphet statements of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:30 PM
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So you do treat sex like your way to reward men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:25 PM
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This really is one of the windmill_flowers posts of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:00 PM
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Why would I, or most modern women, be with a guy that we don't desire? Comphet can be a nasty beast
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:43 AM
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Women rarely ever looksmaxx
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:35 AM
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women spend billions of dollars in beauty Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:17 PM
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It's not splitting hairs. Tradwives are, by definition, a Blue Pill lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:14 AM
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You do know it's the Blue Pill that supports a normative lifestyle, right? It literally is framed in the scene between Neo and Morpheus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:58 PM
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That makes us even then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:39 PM
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Has happened on occasion. Last time was less than one year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:38 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:44 PM
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Well, they got angry because of Abby being hot. That was it. Literally the same stuff Anita Sarkeesian got criticised for 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:39 PM
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Good thing I can be single then. Still, women should stop pretending to have any interest in me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:11 PM
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I must be such a terrible person for expecting the bare minimum from a woman if she wants a relationship with me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:19 PM
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Hoarding whose wealth exactly? It doesn't belong to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:16 PM
1

Not all women can be straight/bi
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:15 PM
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How dare they seek an end to laws that were meant to marginalise non unionised workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:33 PM
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Sure, they're ruining things by not spending their money on you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:20 PM
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Ok, Katie Taylor is turning 40 this year. What does she spend on beauty products?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:19 PM
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corporations that are ruining our global political and financial systems Really avoids saying the quiet part out loud, but prejudice against the finance system that somehow pulls the strings behind all of global politics rests on late 19th century antisemitic stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:20 PM
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Plenty of beautiful young women that don't even have to put all that effort into looking good. That's easier for a woman in her 30s than in her 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:14 PM
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Giga ultra based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:09 PM
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Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:08 PM
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Had to swap misandry for antisemitism, didn"t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:42 PM
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What did tlou2 have to do with inclusivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:11 PM
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They made some pretty neat rock albums about Dante's journey through hell, or Darwin's theory of evolution. Feel free to explain how they sexualise women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:30 PM
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Few of the pop songs I listen to nowadays feature videoclips. This one is one I really liked when I was a teenager. As for TV ads, I do know the kind you're talking of–they were meant to be an X-ray scanner app for your phone. I genuinely still wonder what one'd actually have gotten if they paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:31 AM
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It's always been the Blue Pill that has supported a normative lifestyle. That's literally what it is about in the scene between Neo and Morpheus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:35 AM
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Weird, I mostly remember ads being about Raid Shadow Legends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:34 AM
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I don't know, if I can go listening plenty of genres from industrial noise to kargyraa without ever taking notice, that might be more of a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:49 AM
1

To be fair, Shane McCutcheon is hot af
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:01 AM
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All I'm saying is Grindr works but Tinder and Bumble don't. So there has to be something wrong with the latter two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:16 AM
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That did seem to be the case 10 years ago. But nowadays they'll complain even Marvel's Spiderman 2 is woke. Because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:41 AM
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Well, the only one of those I listen to is rock. And only Italian prog from the 70s. Hopefully you'd have data since, as you said, it is everywhere. So feel free to show me which part of Palepoli by Osanna objectifies women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:38 AM
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The existance of straight women hasn't been corroborated by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:37 AM
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Except Neil Druckmann did create tlou. That didn't stop him from being the target of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:54 AM
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There's no better proof of sexuality not being a choice than the majority of men being straight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:22 AM
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Ok, tell me which genre of music I listen to would've informed me of such a wild claim
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:17 AM
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Well, they both rely on noumena to describe everything. It's not my fault the shoe fucking fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:12 AM
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You always need a reputable source. You should look for reputable sources, such as Roosh V or Sargon of Akkad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:11 AM
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Uh huh. My cousin also says he's a nuclear scientist and he's told me that you can trigger cold fusion by buying off market fairy dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:25 AM
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And where are you consuming this red pill ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:21 AM
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Really? Do you have a source on when I said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:09 AM
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What does any of what you say have to do with the Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:48 AM
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Just checked, it's black rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:30 AM
1

Medieval theology departments were also studying the ten celestial intelligences moving each heavenly sphere like crazy. Guess that's all we need to conclude there's an angel in charge of making Saturn revolve around the Earth right before the sphere of the fixed stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:23 AM
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women are sexualized so heavily in mainstream culture Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:08 AM
1

Fanservice has been getting better these last few years. I mean, have you seen BG3 and tlou2?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:07 PM
1

How male dominated can reading Anna Komnena be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:02 PM
0

On the one hand, I do agree with you. I did find Anita Sarkeesian's sex negativity problematic as fuck ten years ago. But in recent history, one really needs to ponder which side has been the one policing character designs. The backlash against tlou2 really was mask off for a lot of the people claiming to defend video games. They are the ones complaining about how Abby having supposedly unrealistic proportions. Regardless as to the actual plausibility (where I do also side 100% with Druckmann), …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:00 PM
4

God forbid a game dev wants to make a tomboy character
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:55 PM
1

If you're into moderately dead dove stuff with warnings, feel free to DM me. If not, I can still DM you my other, smaller account (higher word count, but definitely less views).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:19 PM
1

It really depends as to the kinds of tests. I really don't think it's bad practice to screen out people who're not compatible with you, regardless of whether they're good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:01 PM
13

I really wouldn't care. My main hobby already is posting on AO3, where men are reported to be around 5% of the userbase (the Discord server I'm in does have a male majority, so maybe smut does lean more male).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:00 PM
1

All cops are bastards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:39 PM
1

And while we're at it, good black men should also take it with criminals if they want others to feel safe around them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:37 PM
4

Feminist women, generally speaking, don't want to deal with men on an even footing either. They'll believe it is misogynistic to hold them to the same standards as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:15 PM
1

Would you want a long term relationship with someone you hate? Would you have children with them? Would you want to see their face as the first thing in the morning when you wake up? Terrible argument, bruh. We might as well examine the flip side of women in relationships with men and check that these items generally do apply to them. Should we assume that these women are not misandric because of it? Even more so, would the above be enough to conclude that such women actually are into their part…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:12 PM
1

And if Thor didn't descend to Earth every year, we'd be destroyed by the Ice Giants. It is very easy to argue going off of noumena.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:01 PM
2

Ok, so you have no examples
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:57 PM
2

When have women ever taken men's preferences into account? Also, I am yet to meet a woman who'd prefer the guy on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:51 PM
2

women have been socialised to put more effort into their appearance If that were true, it would've been women who invented looksmaxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:45 PM
2

the vast majority of women are looking for a connection Exactly. When they can't get one with a man they desire, comphet pushes them towards a guy they're not into. I believe every man entering a relationship with a woman deserves to be aware she's likely pretending to be into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:24 PM
2

Not expecting someone to watch porn sure is a controlling move. I don't even watch porn and I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be with a woman who wants to be with me for that reason. If she's going to treat me as an ontologically different category of man, she doesn't deserve me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:14 PM
2

Men should do what women already did and find more peace and happiness in being alone MGTOW already were a thing, but apparently that's misogyny as per the rules of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:29 AM
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I doubt smut has much of a gender divide. I'm an ao3 author and my audience skews male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:01 PM
0

Society does judge women's sexuality differently. So if a woman has sex with a lot of men, she's healthily enjoying her sexuality, but if a man has sex with a lot of women, he's a misogynist pumping and dumping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:03 PM
1

The issue of gender roles is an interesting one since feminists do nominally claim to oppose them. I already made a thread discussing how feminists only oppose traditional masculinity at the same time they reinforce normative roles for women. Either way, since the Blue Pill is, as anyone can check by going straight to the source, that being the scene with Neo and Morpheus, normative, it only makes sense for it to oppose deviations from the norm. Of course, you can try to argue that the free expr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:03 PM
1

The Red Pill is not and has never been sex negative. PUA has always been about how to have casual sex. The only way anyone could believe otherwise is if they were terribly misinformed. Meanwhile, the Blue Pill is, as in The Matrix's pill scene, about normativity. You continue to live the life that society demands of you. It insists that men should bear the burden of a traditional monogamous marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:36 PM
1

Except the main groups that stigmatise PUA behaviour (AKA pumping and dumping) are extremely sex negative. The Blue Pill is, by necessity, sex negative. So it's either tradcons or radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:24 PM
-1

I've given you more sources than the ones you've provided, which is zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:53 AM
-2

Thanks, I'll use that argument whenever someone picks a Bible verse to point out the oppression of women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:46 AM
-3

I literally gave you the sources for my claims. Instead, you're going off of "trust me, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:06 AM
1

Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:57 AM
4

It's also bullshit. I doubt anyone who makes that claim knows what a 21 year old looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:54 AM
-2

Have shitty ex with other dudes Put the blame on the guy you didn't have sex with Rinse and repeat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:37 AM
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This is ahistorical nonsense. It's even explicitely mandated in Musnad Abu Ya'la to hold the female orgasm in higher regard than the male. Ibn Taymiyyah also interprets Surah al Baqarah (2:228) in such a direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:30 AM
2

This
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:28 AM
2

You sure love gatekeeping men who decide our life doesn't revolve around you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:59 PM
2

Considering none involves me having an alone time to read AO3, I doubt it's better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:46 PM
2

Is it good sex, tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:21 PM
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Those studies aren't even relevant. They just stopped measuring at 25 (it had been 16 initially, but it was extended since the brain kept developing). The human brain might not even be fully developed at 50 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:14 PM
3

I love how suitable is an euphemism for simp now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 06:22 PM
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If that's how you think, I also hope no one else has to date you. I genuinely grieve for your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:17 AM
5

Uh-huh. It's also an energy field created by all living things that surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galaxy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:47 PM
7

Is patriarchy in the room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:27 PM
3

Gotta hand it to you. When I opened up my dating profile, no woman under 30 seemed like she knew how to make a good profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:13 PM
3

You are not all men. What you prefer is not the preference of all men. I definitely find it hillarious how it took a conversation about makeup to get why #notallmen is a valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:00 PM
1

I guess male-centric just means any GNC woman now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:14 PM
2

Not really, I'm in my 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:53 PM
1

I really doubt so. I once tried opening a dating account to see what they looked like (I'm too broke atm so I wasn't going to actually message anyone). My aim was to see if I could find women whom I'd consider to really be a catch on those apps. There were about 3, none of them under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:19 PM
2

It’s that average women are noticeably attractive to most men when they are in their 20s. So, no source again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:49 PM
3

Meanwhile there are no women who peak after 30. Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:45 PM
4

Meanwhile so many more women are really cute to most men in their late teens and 20s than their 30s and 40s. And so many improve miles during their 30s and 40s. I don't get what's your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:36 PM
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Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:17 PM
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No, really. Even setting aside the looks (and they are a concern), I like having my privacy. I'd rather be dead than show up in some celebrity magazine and know we can't go out without precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:02 AM
-3

But so can Margot Robbie and Margaret Qualey Good luck convincing me to date them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:54 AM
-4

Attractive women and attractive men both get a LOT of sexual and romantic attention. *from men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:47 AM
1

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:57 PM
-3

To be blunt, some chivalry traditions like that still exist because it’s seen that men inherently benefit more / sacrifice less in a marriage than women do. The true miracle of matriarchy has been to make men complicit in our oppression by making us believe we were empowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:42 PM
9

Relationships with men are exhausting I wonder why a relationship with a woman who thinks like this might not be appealing for a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:21 PM
4

Have you considered why men might not want a relationship with the woman in question? It suffices to read the comments by plenty of women in this thread to wonder why I would ever want to be with a woman who thinks about me (and other men) that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:18 PM
-1

I sure wouldn't. Don't know if chads would, but I still wouldn't if I was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:51 AM
9

You still have your 30s and your 40s ahead of you. Provided you don't want children, there's plenty of time for you to enjoy yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:45 AM
1

We must live in separate realities then. I hardly ever hear femnists not talking about internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:28 PM
2

Gender nonconforming, AKA "not like other girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:04 PM
2

Then why are most feminists, including the ones who will nominally support trans rights, so quick to accuse GNC women of being pick mes for failing to shave their legs or wear makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:00 PM
1

Am I to assume all feminists who show up in 2XC or r/feminism if I look up NLOG or internalised misogyny are red pill MAGA feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:36 PM
0

But the average feminist is still complicit in the reinforcing of traditional gender roles. This is precisely why they accuse women who don't shave their legs of wear makeup of internalised misogyny and trying to get male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:15 PM
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So let's say that abortions do get replaced with artificial incubation. It still doesn't mean the parents are financially capable of sustaining a child. Do you pretend to also raise them at the government's expense? Because otherwise, you'd just be increasing the burden on understaffed orphanages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:59 PM
4

This really can be broken down into two separate questions. First, do I struggle getting attention back if I approach a woman? This one's so terrible I don't even approach women at all nowadays with such intentions. The answer is always going to be no, it's simply not worth it to even try. Second, is it easy to have a woman interested in me by some chance of fate? On this account, there's a lot of variability. Putting yourself out there is quite a valid argument in that, by being in spaces where…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:57 PM
13

Women want to be approached Experience suggests otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:30 PM
20

I'd totally hate it. Precisely why I don't think it's a viable solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:26 PM
2

I'd honestly believe you if feminists weren't the ones reinforcing gender roles by harassing trans and GNC women out of female spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:19 PM
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No, they just don't like men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:36 AM
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Feminists sure are bent on keeping them alive, what with all of the derision of GNC women for being pick mes catering to male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:25 AM
3

Good for telling on yourself for being a crypto feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:18 AM
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You know for a fact EVERY TIME she’s bought into the way you think, not just the way you look. Precisely my nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:08 PM
1

Truly one of the #notallmen moments of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:37 AM
1

I don't owe you my attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:02 AM
0

Well, I have basically no experience and I don't care about that so maybe it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:22 AM
1

That certainly is one of the ways of framing it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:13 AM
1

Women I know generally aren't that liberal. The more politically minded will either be leftist (but not too leftist) or conservative (and sometimes quite a lot so). I guess it's that liberalism tends to appeal towards people high in Openness to experience, which is lower in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:03 AM
1

I think that'd be counterproductive. It for sure is not my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:14 PM
2

It's funny since liberalism has the strongest male shifted ratio out of any political ideology among people I know. And it's not even close (the next might be tankyism fwiw).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:50 PM
3

The right (or the little that remains of it) does coalesce around maintaining rights and dignity for the people the left has othered. Like billionaires and landlords.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:39 PM
1

I always knew Katie Taylor was an android!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:28 PM
1

If woman A with short skirt, heels and cleavage get's more male attention than woman B who is wearing oversized shirt and jeans. Big if true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:08 PM
-1

You mentioned how masculine traits emphasise liberal values
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:08 PM
1

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:52 PM
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Self‑enhancement emphasizes dominance, personal success, and self‑promotion over concern for others, consistent with economic individualism and “bootstraps” self‑reliance narratives. (Sources: here) That actually disproves your point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:52 PM
1

Society says otherwise though. Source: it was revealed to you in a dream
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:22 PM
3

Women's nice clothes for going out are uncomfortable. As a woman you are meant to be uncomfortable during parties. Heels, dresses, hairstyles, nails, all of that is uncomfortable. We out up with it because it's what's expected of femininity. None of that's because of men. Unlike some, I do abide by believing women, and if they say they aren't doing that for men it must be true. Also that if it were, it would be a fucking stupid strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:20 PM
1

Ah yes, the not real communism, it will work this time I swear guys argument
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:17 PM
0

Men aren't expected to wear makeup or have intricate hairstyles or long, hard to manage hair, and also be hairless otherwise. Some may choose to, but it's not expectation. Women aren't either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:15 PM
1

Makeup ruins looks tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:13 PM
1

Different Barney
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:12 PM
1

But Jennifer Aniston is with guys like Brad Pitt who is a total Chad Precisely why I don't think Chads have it that good either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:11 PM
2

Are you sure you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:07 PM
1

Surely then, it must have been women who invented looksmaxxing. But they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:06 PM
1

If not her, basically no one is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:00 PM
2

She totally is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:59 PM
1

Jennifer Aniston is mid, tho? PWB is a certified bombshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:59 PM
1

Terrible example, bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:58 PM
1

You're a creep if you think that about Barney & Friends and should be reported to the feds
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:58 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:39 PM
2

Do you have any source on them being correlated with conservatism? Because I fail to see any link. In fact, the biggest predictor iirc is low openness to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:34 PM
2

Hardly any of the traits you listed have anything to do with conservatism. Conservatism has to do with wanting to preserve existing frameworks and prevent abrupt changes Really, it's not hard to guess why it would appeal to women so often. Men, statistically speaking, score higher on openness to experience. This is why, for instance, the ultra liberal Silicon Valley has such a male-tilted leadership. "Move fast and break things" is a mantra that will generally appeal to men more often than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:29 PM
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It's to be attracted towards me instead of having a comphet excuse for why she's with me despite not actually desiring me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:45 PM
1

It must be so terrible of me to expect the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:12 PM
1

I just hate the government leeching off billionaires. Everyone, rich or poor, should pay their fair share, just like it is in Denmark.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:57 PM
3

I've seen videos on how those procedures work. You don't want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:52 PM
1

Ah yes, the sugar daddy model of government
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:48 PM
0

I'll keep that in mind next time I'm about to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:24 AM
1

I mean, they are relatively tricky to get. I can certainly imagine I couldn't be able to trigger them in other men if I was trying. Best advice I could give to a woman trying to get me to have them during sex is applying pressure instead of outright rubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:43 AM
1

Men also are multi orgasmic tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 08:40 AM
1

There's a lot of stuff that's not apparently obvious for wolffian genitalia too. I myself am still finding out new things. Like, I'm strongly skeptical most women could be able to pull off giving me multiple orgasms if I requested them to masturbate me. So both types of anatomy can be incredibly mysterious if you haven't been living with them. That's why communication is so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:01 AM
2

None of that means you're actually into him. Plenty of ace people enjoy having sex and are no less valid for it. I'm also below average (and broke) and there've been women interested in something with me. The last one makes sense when you put it in context. Sure, I was making barely more than half than her (despite being 2 years older), but it was a 90% female office. The only other guy under 30 was the owner's nephew. So what she could see was a man competent at his job who could help her out i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:44 AM
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When have men not been socially conditioned to not prioritize the female orgasm? It's even explicitely mandated in Musnad Abu Ya'la. Ibn Taymiyyah also interprets Surah al Baqarah (2:228) in such a direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:26 AM
1

It's a term created by second wave feminists to describe what is incredibly obvious: attraction towards men is not natural to most women (of course, many did engage in ace erasure leading to a huge comphomo complex). You can make up any reasons why you wouldn't actually have sex with a man that still preserve your status of feeling such attraction. That is, you need to preserve this ontological category of straight/bi woman. So it's not that you're not into men, but only thay there are some very…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:01 AM
1

I've known a handful of women like that. Most of the time it's just a strong case of comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:45 AM
1

Sounds like comphet but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:34 AM
3

If they were, Tinder and Bumble would work just as wonderfully as Grindr does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:32 AM
3

Assuming both groups approach women at similar rates, men should be more common. Of course, most men will intuitively know that most women aren't actually into men, which should drop the rates significantly. I assume that, once sapphic women eventually find out that women are more often into women than into men, sapphic women approaching should be the more common of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:42 AM
1

And then you proceeded to miss the point entirely. You went on a massive tangent about how if he simply defined sex as a reward, he'd get more sex out of a relationship. Which is a sound logic that completely ignores the reason why sex was an issue in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:06 AM
-1

You're still not getting that sex isn't meant to be a favour from women to men. You're still treating relationships like an account balance where you owe a specific rate of favours as a result of his continued commitment to you. All of that defeats the purpose because relationships aren't meant to be transactional. If that were what I'm after, I'd visit a prostitute. But I'm not interesting in acquiring what I intend to be mutually enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:50 AM
-1

But you said the guy in a relationship was getting better treatment. None of the items you listed are a valid comparison because that's not what being treated better is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:41 AM
0

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:30 AM
-1

if she carried his children, that’s better treatment Ruining my finances sure doesn't sound like better treatment. Even more so, you're treating this whole relationship issue extremely transactionally. I don't expect anyone to remember personal details in exchange for me being a decent human being. Better treatment is not a relevant concept in regards to the outstanding balance one cashes in from a relationship. What OP is addressing is the fact of becoming a desirable man, one towards whom a na…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:28 AM
1

I must have missed the part where Klemens von Metternich was a noted biphobe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:11 AM
3

Women like men That's where you're wrong, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:08 AM
-1

But I do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:05 PM
-4

Well, 2 is higher than 0, so that disproves your point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:02 PM
-2

Women must want negative children then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:51 PM
3

What does blue pill have to do with any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:15 PM
3

I'd hardly care. Assuming she's not bi, women are terrible judges of what outfits look sexy to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:55 AM
1

>Because that would be objectifying. It would mean they only see me as a lay which isn't flattering. If you actually liked them, it would be flattering. I can tell you for sure if I received similar treatment from women I'd be the first to say they actually like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:19 AM
1

If it feels degrading, then you're just not attracted. You'd do everyone a favour by acknowledging your lack of attraction and letting others enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:49 PM
2

Then I'm guessing you have no grievances against men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:08 PM
2

You act like you're entitled to attraction from men but don't want them to actually be desired by them. You're just pretending to feel attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:06 PM
1

She was outright simping for me a whole year
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:57 PM
2

Experience says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:55 PM
2

Sounds like comphet but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:26 PM
2

Big if true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:51 PM
-1

She finds 5% tolerable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:49 PM
6

Then maybe it's just that men realised they deserved better than women who were with them simply because they simped hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:47 PM
-2

If those women you talk of don't want to treat us like a living sex toy, then I doubt they'd like us either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:35 PM
2

I doubt chads are having a good time either. What women expect is attention. I for sure struggled with understanding a lot of female behaviour until I realised that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:33 PM
3

Women could at least stop pretending to like men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:30 PM
2

Comphet isn't even halfway defeated. I'd guess it accounts for as much as 90% of opposite sex relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:25 PM
4

>A mere 20 years ago (I’m a millenial) young boys and men were taught they had to do things to get women to like them Those used to be known as PUAs. They were shut up by feminists for being problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:24 PM
2

If it makes you feel dirty, then it's not attraction. I'm pretty sure that's also how a lot of closeted people in opposite sex marriages feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:17 PM
2

When did I accuse you of hating men? You simply made it clear that you're not receptive towards men's objectification. Which is valid. I'm not attracted to men either and I'm certainly not a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:07 PM
3

Then you should stop pretending you're into men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:41 PM
3

Ok, so what you're saying is women will treat men like ATM machines while men will treat women as sex toys. Guess which of those treatments sounds like a treat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:25 PM
1

As always, the go to reaction is pathologization. Women are not mentally afflicted for not being attracted to men anymore than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:24 PM
2

He already said women needed to feel safe first. That is not my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:19 PM
14

I totally get why men would choose not to date at all, and I don’t blame them, but it appears that’s more of a detriment to them than women. It's really not. Think of finding a job. I'm pretty sure I'd be better off with a job even if I had a trust fund. There's a lot of meaning to be found in a job you like. But as we know, employers hardly ever want to hire. If I had a trust fund, I'd definitely stop looking for work because I wouldn't need one, there'd be plenty of better uses of my time than…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:29 AM
9

AKA men who do things for you have a higher worth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:20 AM
7

And objectify women and will objectify you. That's the whole point. I hardly ever find supposedly straight women objectifying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:14 AM
6

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:10 AM
-2

If they expect safety, they want a bodyguard, not a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:03 AM
7

It works if you're hot. See how a lot of women think of Luigi Mangione vs. Elliot Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:56 AM
-1

Yup, literally defined what a game is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:50 AM
1

Tell me you haven't read John Nash without telling me you haven't read John Nash
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:35 AM
0

Sex is a reward inasmuch as you make it out to be. I don't expect emotional labour from women, as I'm aware how terrible it is to have to perform such uncompensated tasks. The flipside is that, if she expects me to perform such labour too to qualify for sex, it probably isn't worth it. She can have sex with a PUA with a similar view of sex if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:05 AM
1

How can you speed-run comfort? Answering that is up to PUAs. They're the ones who have studied this. Whether she acts like this for herself is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:59 AM
2

They already complain. It literally is where the word fuckboy comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:32 AM
-3

If they set up the game like that, they are treating sex as a reward. They have no right to complain if the guy later acts the way they didn't intend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:27 AM
-5

Then the game is not waiting a set period, but speedrunning how to make her comfortable enough. It doesn't change the underlying dynamic at all, because it's still women framing sex as their way of rewarding men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:07 AM
-2

Except it literally is. Read John Nash if you have any doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:05 AM
-2

It's actually quite a relief to know I don't have to settle for a woman who'll have sex with me simply bc she has a formal connection
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:03 AM
-2

And yet it is women who treat it as such. Men are just reacting to the game women set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:49 AM
-3

Sex with a woman who treats her body like that sounds depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:39 AM
-6

Pretty much, but the only time instance of this I hear being criticised is when men complain about not getting laid despite good behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:30 AM
-2

Feelings definitely are contingent. If someone you like treats you like shit your feelings towards them are quite likely to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:23 AM
-11

If you have no qualms about treating your body as a reward for waiting, you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:19 AM
-3

Ok, but don't start complaining about men thinking of sex as a reward when that's literally what you treat it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:18 AM
-7

Regardless of your perception, it literally counts as a reward if you expect certain conditions to be met beforehand. When you treat activities like rewards, you shouldn't be shocked others regard them as such too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:17 AM
3

It would totally be women. It explains the huge divorce gap in same sex marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:08 AM
13

At no age do men have a higher average SMV than women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:24 PM
1

Attraction is no prerequisite for sex. Louis XV wasn't attracted to women either but he still had an interest in having children. So there are plenty of reasons to have sex that don't involve attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:02 PM
2

Dunno, I'd need to have a wife to be able to tell. My gut reaction would be 60, but there's a lot of variability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:50 PM
2

But I definitely am childphobic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:09 PM
1

If that's how you want to interpret it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:47 PM
1

It, for instance, is the reason why promiscuous men are stigmatised while women who sleep around are thought of as healthily exploring their sexuality. A promiscuous man is pumping and dumping women because to engage in sex without later offering your partner the attention she feels entitled to is seen as a betrayal of her trust in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:34 PM
1

Women like attention, and are willing to reciprocate if the attention they receive from men is deemed as high quality (which generally equates to the man being professionally successful and physically fit). I like to think I deserve better than a woman who is only milking me for my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 PM
2

They like attention from men they consider high quality. That's not the same as attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:11 PM
-1

Yes. Attentionsexuality is a powerful force.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:09 PM
5

It is not. Women are, generally speaking, not attracted to men. They're not guilty of it anymore thwn I am of not being attracted to men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:03 PM
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Her main problem would be her looks, not her past
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:54 PM
2

That's an interesting way to say you only think of yourself as an incubator
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:35 PM
1

I think Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell managed to make it work out
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:41 PM
5

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:30 AM
5

I'm saying no one's forcing women to look like clowns when they date
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:27 AM
1

So not only am I expected to pay for her bill, she also arrives wearing make up on top of that? I might just join a cluniac monastery at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:22 AM
6

So not going to address my argument are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:15 AM
17

Unfair because women already have to spend so much time and money on beauty products I must have missed the part where the law decreeing women need to buy make up was approved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:01 AM
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Based and mojo dojo casa house pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:17 AM
-1

The comment above mine literally debunked your chadsexuality claim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:00 PM
5

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:51 PM
6

r/womenarenotintomen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:49 PM
9

As someone who's been unemployed for half a year, it really is like job hunting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:51 AM
1

Women don't like men anyway, so step 1 is quite easy to follow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:21 AM
2

Whenever I hear women say they like dad bods, that's not what they mean 9 times out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:17 AM
-1

Doing the lord's work out there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:09 AM
2

The sunglasses guy did nothing wrong. All of the others are quite clear red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:31 AM
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That's not how statistics work. You need to account for preexisting variables to correct heteroskedasticity. Only through a DID methodology can you actually find whether marriage has an effect either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:52 PM
1

>even when its obvious that 'love' is lust and objectifying women, hoping to exploit women for sex. That makes unconditional love sound like the consolation prize if anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:01 PM
2

"I don't hate gay people, but why do THOSE gays need to make it their whole identity and act like they're better than us normal people?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:53 PM
2

Sure, because god forbid a woman actually dislikes what's expected of her gender
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:40 PM
3

It's far from chronical; here's some links I found after only a cursory search: https://medium.com/feminista101/im-not-like-other-girls-8c8a0761ad99 https://www.theteenmagazine.com/heforshe-the-i-m-not-like-other-girls-phenomenon https://thelibertylivewire.com/8961/opinion/im-not-like-other-girls/ https://genderjusticeproject.org/feminism/why-you-should-skip-the-im-not-like-other-girls-phase https://sffoghorn.com/i-want-to-be-like-other-girls/ https://medium.com/the-virago/why-youre-not-like-oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:30 PM
4

Not like other girls. It's quite enlighteningto look that term up in 2XC to see how feminists think of GNC women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:36 PM
3

Thus the allowance for both stay at home traditionally feminine women and the butchest masculine girl boss imaginable. Is that why women who don't shave their legs or wear make up get accused of internalised misogyny and are called NLOG?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:16 PM
1

Literally what I've been saying this whole time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:59 PM
12

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 12:51 AM
2

Sounds like a woman telling me "hey, you look hot, but there's just this huge cock you have that takes it out of proportion"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:49 PM
2

When have they ever stopped a woman from being hot as fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:11 PM
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Women have just realised they're not actually into mem. Comphet is one hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:54 PM
1

Where's the neg tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:54 PM
1

Single and red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:35 PM
1

Comphet is a thing and quite an easy one to spot after a few months in
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:28 AM
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Being a good man is a relative judgement. Since we're talking about dating, the question should be whether there's a shortage of good men for good women to partner with. This seems to be far from the case. Really, if you're struggling to find good men, it's probably your personality. All it takes is basic hygiene and not wearing more than minimal makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:40 PM
2

Not lusting like men doesn’t mean not lusting Literally one of the comphet-induced takes of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:12 PM
1

r/womenandmales
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:55 PM
1

Then they should stop pretending they're into us
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:54 PM
3

I don't think that the men here who complain about not being desired sexually and only for what they provide want to be desired solely in a lustful way. You'd be wrong about that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:34 PM
2

All I can say is I'd take offence at being treated as a subject rather than an object
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:33 PM
1

All men are 10s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:18 PM
1

Sounds like comphet but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:01 PM
1

I fail to see what that has to do with me since I don't even watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:55 PM
7

Precisely this. All we expect is our desire to be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:53 PM
3

It must be such a crime to expect our partners to be with us for any reason other than comphet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:51 PM
5

If she wants more than that, she can get that from the bear
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:49 PM
0

That's basic information economics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:48 PM
0

Not even that's guaranteed. A woman who looks up to me and loves me for who I am as a person? Sure, that's quite easy to get. She'll probably fail at seeing me as a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:47 PM
4

Gotta hand it to you here, that one's right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:43 PM
1

That claim still fails the revealed preferences check
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:41 PM
2

When guys say "I want to be TRULY desired", they want to be loved and appreciated for the type of person they are and the feelings they give you instead of the benefits they provide you. They want to be treated as a subject rather than an object, which is what you women complain about. Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:35 PM
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Men are constantly comparing us to porn stars and instagram girls I must have forgot the time when I did. Anyway, if she doesn't feel intrinsic lust, why should she attempt to form a relationship with me to begin with? If you won't play by the rules, you shouldn't have even tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:34 PM
2

The question is with whom. Generally speaking, not with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:30 PM
9

I must be such a terrible person for expecting the bare minimum if I'm entering a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:26 PM
3

What in the comphet did I just read?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:55 AM
3

The average woman likes sex with men as much as the average men does
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:45 AM
3

I'm pretty sure nazi Germany was quite a homophobic place. It still didn't stop Ernst Röhm from being among the few people who addressed Hitler as du.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:03 PM
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And one third of same sex couples voted for Le Pen. She actually performed better among them than among opposite sex couples. https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2016/02/04/01016-20160204ARTFIG00287-un-tiers-des-couples-homosexuels-maries-a-vote-fn-aux-regionales.php
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:56 PM
-1

wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:39 PM
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I'm a liberal man and the only box I check out of those is drinking matcha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:45 AM
0

Katie Taylor
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:52 PM
7

Rule 1 and rule 2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:29 PM
-1

We totally do. Last time I said I didn't like it here, a woman asked me to name attractive women. When I did, she went "ackshually, they're ugly as fuck."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:23 PM
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No; why would I believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:21 PM
4

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2971735-dad-bods-are-the-top-male-physique
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:40 PM
1

30s if that's an option
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:28 AM
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When you're not attracted to men, it's hard to conceptualise sex with men as being consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:56 AM
5

Where is the culture telling us any of this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:04 AM
0

Liberal feminists are a tiny minority who will shake their heads silently in the background when they hear sex negative takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:58 AM
1

Feminists as always are the main opponents of it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:10 AM
1

Conservative and right-wing movements are actively shaping policies that affect women’s bodily autonomy, healthcare access, economic security, and legal protections When did Kyriakos Mitsotakis do any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:47 AM
1

It's actually a form of cost signalling. It shows you can afford to show vulnerability and still keep her respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:59 PM
5

It's enough with enforcing your boundaries. If your partner isn't doing enough during sex, you don't need to continue having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:48 PM
9

What point am I supposed to be debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:32 PM
2

Where does it say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:12 PM
1

How is that feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:43 PM
0

That's not unrealistic at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:38 PM
2

I don't think anyone wants to get old. I for sure wouldn't want to get all of the health complications. Now, for women, I definitely want to cash in on the no pregnancies perk, so late 40s sounds wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:37 PM
1

What does that have to do with RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:27 PM
1

But if my partner is a Redpill woman then this is not something I would get from her. Why wouldn't you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:40 AM
3

r/womenarenotintomen confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:21 AM
3

I already made a top level reply about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:08 AM
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men feel it is his job to help her be less boring Can confirm. It has a very low chance of working out and I wouldn't recommend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:17 PM
2

It wasn't really a break up since we weren't officially dating, but we were very close friends, and she was very much into me. We were on our last year of secondary school, and I definitely knew I wanted to study Econ. There were also a lot of other interests of mine we'd often talk about (a lot of times it was her asking me). When I asked her what she wanted to study, she said she wanted to be a film producer. I guess she did sometimes mention a relatively obscure film she liked, but it wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:15 PM
3

To feel dislike or distaste for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 10:24 PM
3

https://www.wordnik.com/words/hate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:33 PM
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It for sure wouldn't. I'd maybe just do the drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:46 PM
1

They'd only work if women already were attracted to men, in which case we wouldn't even need them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 04:00 PM
1

ara ara
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:15 AM
1

Not if we have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:43 AM
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I can tell you for sure it is a dealbreaker of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:05 PM
3

Minotaurs aren't men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:45 PM
3

No; the caveat is not the attractiveness of the woman in question. It is that they might be interested in our attention, that they are able to see men as full human beings, yet are basically incapable of actually desiring us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:42 PM
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If true, anthropological studies on contemporary hunter gatherer populations would need to indicate that sex is overwhelmingly nonconsensual. I've never heard of such a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:46 AM
1

Really? Pull me the studies on sea sponges' horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:10 AM
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If they didn't evolutionarily select for attractiveness and still mated with them, then they weren't having sex because they found them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 AM
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I don't think it's out of malice. It's simply that women aren't into men. They're not even chadsexual, it's only attention they're into. So it is possible to easily get sex with women for men if you make it so your attention will be valuable (professionally successful and physically fit), meaning women might be willing to offer sex in exchange for continued attention. But at that point, it's not even worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:36 PM
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None of that means things have to improve. We don't necessarily progress towards better versions of feminism. Things simply change because it is expedient to power to do away with social authorities that might pose any resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:11 PM
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You seem to be too hung up on Whig history. We, as a society, don't figure out anything. All that happens is the worldview of the most culturally powerful being canonised. They thrive on this notion of original sin: that we all live on a sexist/racist/etc. society and that all of our institutions need to be reshaped to align with doctrine. Once too many people start accepting it, it fails to serve power anymore, things have been reshaped as much as you can. So you need a new variant, you start c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:54 PM
1

Most of the men here seem remarkably anti-social Can confirm. I once burnt my neighbours' house bc I disliked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:27 PM
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Except it's hardly sexist men who are the ones pushing women into their roles. Feminists have spent decades reinforcing normative femininity by labeling butches as a problematic replication of patriarchy within sapphic relationships and accusing women who don't wear makeup of internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:18 PM
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It doesn't matter because AI can't make women attracted to men. It is painfully obvious by now that women, as a norm, don't feel opposite-sex attraction. So it will still be a handful of women swiping through their dearth of matches, even if the ground rules might be slightly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:42 AM
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Rabbit hole? It's an entire naked mole rat colony here!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:27 PM
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Hold my fu manchu
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:20 PM
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When a man doesn’t have a [romantic] relationship he pours it into conspiracy theory, porn, and misogyny I must have missed the porn part
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:16 PM
2

No; I did the attempt myself and created a fake female dating profile. Any kind of man you could think of was trying to match with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:40 PM
1

Who is us guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:04 AM
1

I must have forgotten when did I. Care to remind me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:42 AM
2

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:14 AM
1

Fair, it's only 5 years of child support since I only date anti vaxxers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:01 AM
1

If she's happy, it's still a lot easier to find that somewhere else than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:58 AM
3

I don't recall asking but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:07 AM
4

You do have a talent for finding Uncle Toms if it really is a polycule
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:59 PM
-3

I hardly ever hear people accusing women of being misandric due to their sexual past
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:40 PM
-1

No; it's derisive towards promiscuous men and their character
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:39 PM
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If you think it's promiscuous women who are derided, you've clearly never heard of the term "pump and dump."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:22 PM
1

It's just my duty as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:01 AM
4

I might be above average, but if a woman told me this is what gets her off, I'd totally try it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 11:54 PM
12

That's defamation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:49 PM
7

Who is they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:12 PM
1

I call a man committing to a woman uglier than him a Tuesday
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:03 PM
2

every heterosexual woman is attracted to men And every gay man is attracted to men, too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:37 PM
-6

I love the implicit acknowledgement that attraction towards men is only natural for a minority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:24 PM
5

They're not more sensitive despite feminism; feminism has been the cause of it. It started as early as feminists became worried about the lavender menace, and later political lesbians also started claiming imitating men was problematic. Fast forward to today, where gender nonconforming women get accused of being pick mes seeking male approval due to their internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:33 AM
1

That's only all the more reasons to assume they wouldn't be a representative sample. It surely would be a nice experience to receive that sort of feedback, but I probably wouldn't take it as gospel outside the seminar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:10 AM
0

Seems like a great initiative. I do wonder if sex workers volunteering are likely to be representative of the wider female population, and whether that might bias the kind of advice given. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it if the only major biasing factor was openness to experience, as I don't think I'd be compatible with a woman low on that measure to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:32 AM
2

It surely would. And truth to be said, women generally don't like men that much. So that's really the main reason I'm single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:30 AM
0

Source: trust me, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:26 PM
5

It might be, relative to their baseline success. Shy women will still have it a lot easier than shy men, even if it's a handicap over bold women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:25 PM
4

Just go outside for once. There's plenty of average looking women paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:24 PM
-2

Why would it be duty sex? Implicitly, you're also agreeing to have sex with her at the same frequency. By that same logic maybe it'd be you who's performing duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:52 PM
2

Sure. Fuck it, it's only the first condition that I care about (and that she desires me, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:48 PM
1

Yes, they would most certainly have found significant evolution of the frontal lobe had they continued
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:09 PM
3

Brains are continually updating. If they'd followed up that study, surely they would've found the brain continues to form until 60, and you'd be saying a 60 year old dating a 50 year old is preying on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:29 PM
2

I really doubt those guys are being coerced
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:24 PM
0

Then I guess so are Angela Dworkin, Marilyn Frye, Sheila Jeffries and Adrienne Rich. Really, it's hard to find a prominent feminist who actually is sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:17 PM
13

Feminism isn't a sex positive movement at all. Go read McKinnon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:34 AM
-3

Non influencer women don't have a shortage of simps either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:33 AM
-2

You see, there's no incentive for that, because they'll still have simps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:52 AM
2

It's quite an interesting meta. I think some nerfs are coming soon, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:36 PM
2

What is the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:34 PM
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Then why do the Jetsons travel to the future in that episode? Nevermind that the Flintstones live in a fully sedentary society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:42 PM
0

The top comment had shit to do with enthusiasm. And it's really not anyone's responsibility if you wrongly assumed someone else's intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:33 PM
2

Rape is when a woman consents and later feels like it was rape
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:16 PM
2

Kings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:15 PM
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Funny that you frame it that way since the Flintstones take place after the Jetsons. But feel free to speak on subjects where you're totally out of your depth; feminists fought for that right!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:22 AM
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Guess all those Bengali factory workers enjoying decades of FDI flows must have been billionares then!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:47 AM
2

Oh I know her; I rejected her when I was 16 (she was a raging feminist btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:00 PM
2

Then who are these women from the past you talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:45 PM
0

Were are those masculine women to begin with? Nowadays, if she doesn't shave her legs or wear make up, she's accused of being a NLOG pick me vying for male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:27 PM
1

Bullshit; I'm a lonely man and don't want a tradwife at all. She sure can be submissive, but ideally a switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:19 PM
0

Never grew out of your potterhead phase, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:44 AM
7

It really is that simple. You just need to shower and lay off the make up. If you can't get a normal guy, it's probably your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:43 AM
8

Can you even be so ugly not even guys will fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:40 AM
7

If straight guys were gayer none of us would bother with women in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:39 AM
2

Except some men too are forced to carry children to term and in fact, they'll tend to face additional barriers to women seeking abortions due to systemic malgendering and even harassment from clinical staff, but I guess all you wanted was to say women are the most oppressed group ever instead of examining if men might also be oppressed. https://19thnews.org/2022/07/abortion-transgender-men-nonbinary-reproductive-rights/ https://www.context.news/socioeconomic-inclusion/facing-abortion-barriers-tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:38 AM
2

Finland is also a world leader in suicide rates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:42 PM
2

That's not what patriarchy means
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:33 PM
3

The question was being treated like a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:26 PM
1

Feminists notoriously hate being held to the same standards as men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:55 AM
4

But it was expected to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:52 AM
24

Because they always say no. I clearly am to ugly for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:03 AM
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The real problem is women not seeing men as a body
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:24 PM
4

Yes, sex was generally seen as a mutual duty in the Bronze Age. Women were expected to desire their husbands, as attested by Sumerian erotic records. In one tablet, the goddess Innana refers to her vulva needing to be plowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:59 PM
4

Similarly, no man rejects a woman for wearing makeup unless she looks like a clown And no person rejects a broken computer unless it can't run. The reason women who wear make up don't struggle is because 95% of men have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:38 PM
6

Windmill has been dethroned I see
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:30 PM
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No, if that was true feminism would've never been a thing. It's the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:58 PM
6

YKINMKBYKIOK
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:43 PM
2

Example one is so incredibly cherry picked. Porn is one of those issues were you'll find tradcons working side by side with feminists because they both hate people having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:42 PM
10

You mean the fantasy you made up? Guess you ruined your own fantasy. Sounds rough, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:39 PM
7

What fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:27 PM
11

Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:22 PM
2

If she actually wanted me to approach, the woman in the video would first need to remove the clown make up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:04 PM
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Well, I'm sure it is gay if you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:51 PM
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that's how women's sexuality works You mispelled gay guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:01 AM
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Literally who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:49 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7ghu7vrsaxtf1.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:31 AM
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Men are the enemy of men. More news at 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:21 AM
0

Stevi Shari can grope me all she wants to (which is none, unfortunately)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:38 AM
-1

You totally can have a deep and fulfilling conversation with someone who sees you as a person AND as an object for their use
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:25 AM
1

That's only a good parallel for women who are not attracted to men. Which I guess is most of them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:22 AM
2

Well, gay men seem to be having a blast
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:14 AM
-1

Those two are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:12 AM
2

Unlike what most feminists will have you believe, the personal is not the political
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:35 PM
1

Is it? Guess I can't write it anymore. Will be deleting my ao3 account then. My 100+ subscribers will be disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:01 PM
5

Women receive too much validation already. This idea sounds quite detrimental to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:52 PM
4

However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Umberto Eco, Ur-fascism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:29 AM
1

Can't do that, I'd lose my job over that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:07 AM
1

I already communicated. The problem should be solved then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:32 PM
1

Oh, nothing in particular. Guess maybe the problem wasn't that men are too closed off after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:19 PM
1

I really doubt that's a complicated feeling. What I'm saying is women will constantly parrot about men opening up, yet when we actually do barely anything happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:03 PM
1

You're saying you empathise with men's issues which aren't worded accusatorily. Do you really, or is it only that you have a pre-approved list of feelings that are valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:47 PM
3

Can you point out exactly when did I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:17 PM
3

If that reason isn't something I've personally done, it hardly is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:51 AM
1

That's irrelevant. Those who have retired simply don't want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:37 AM
0

No, that only started happening with men they rated about 8 or so. And given the distribution they gave, that should be about the top 0.1% of profiles. I'm pretty sure most women would assume that's a catfisher.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:53 AM
5

Grab some photos of who you think is a solid 7 and create a tinder Fuck it, grab photos of a 4 and the matches won't end either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:50 AM
2

Can't even bother to spell her name correctly, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:40 AM
4

Our cock. I can guarantee RP would've never become a thing if women actually were into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:36 AM
13

I'm not responsible for what any man who is not myself has done. You either want a relationship or you don't. I've actually learnt to be happy single, but that doesn't mean I was the one to remove himself from the market. This has all been the choice of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:19 AM
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In reality, women want a date and a relationship, but they feel mistreated by men and have a fear of being SA. So, they simply retire themselves from the market. Then they didn't want a relationship in the first place. If I told you I love spicy food, but I don't like feeling the heat in my tongue, so I just retire from the consumer market of spicy foods, you'd have every reason to claim I'm bullshitting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:08 AM
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I'm horny and want sex. Happy now? I'm not expecting any actionable change from you or anyone for that matter. But I really find it curious how it's only specific feelings that will trigger sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:36 AM
4

To be fair, it's one of the two that are needed. There's angry and there's horny; if I'm feeling like neither then no one else needs to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:23 AM
0

Happily single
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:50 PM
-1

Except women are also driving away self respecting men with this. Functionally speaking, there is no difference between only dating men after you can confirm they haven't behaved unethically and rewarding past behaviour through sex. No man with self respect would be flattered at finding out he's getting preferential treatment in such a manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:55 PM
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It's a binary distinction: if she's attractive enough, I'm likely to show a good deal of interest and escalate if she reciprocrates. Otherwise, she'd need to be the one to take the initiative for me to even consider the possibility (which would depend on plenty of factors regarding our overall compatibility).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:44 PM
9

Why wouldn't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:25 PM
11

Except some men too are forced to carry children to term and in fact, they'll tend to face additional barriers to women seeking abortions due to systemic malgendering and even harassment from clinical staff, but I guess all you wanted was to say women are the most oppressed group ever instead of examining if men might also be oppressed. https://19thnews.org/2022/07/abortion-transgender-men-nonbinary-reproductive-rights/ https://www.context.news/socioeconomic-inclusion/facing-abortion-barriers-tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:42 PM
1

Sure, but I was replying to a comment that claimed feminism was about women being like men when, in fact, plenty of feminists consider gender nonconformity as being an instance of internalised misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:15 AM
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Chris Chan is the ultimate proof of this. If even she could find Flutter, that means there really is someone out there for everyone. Of course, if you have serious issues you'd need to be extremely famous to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:17 AM
4

I don't regret having missed out on it. There was this girl wjo was extremely into me during my last year of school, but she was quite toxic. So it's really a gamble as to whether you'd find compatible people at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:19 PM
1

Even as a certified below average guy, finding women who loved me wasn't hard at all (she never explicitly said it, but I'm confident she'd been livid had I reciprocrated). It hardly is of relevance for my well-being whether I am or not the target of such feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:02 PM
1

Men definitely are more likely to get killed. As for rape, I'm not even sure there's as much of a difference. At lesst among people I know, there's an even gender split of rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:43 PM
2

This guy gets it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:15 PM
3

Peace. Love is cheap af.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:14 PM
1

Allegedly is the key word here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:58 PM
5

Because they're cunts who think they're superior for not being traditionally feminine. Behold, another feminist who thinks being a woman boils down to wearing make up and shaving your legs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:56 PM
2

Feminism is quite actively against that. They love reinforcing traditional standards of femininity. To feminists, being a woman is about wearing make up and shaving your legs, and if a woman doesn't like that, she's a NLOG with internalised misogyny seeking male validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:13 PM
1

Do you understand marketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:46 PM
1

This is what we mean when we say women avoid accountability like the bubonic plague. Literally no one forced women into this, it all happened bc women one day felt like shaving, and if a woman wasn't into it, that meant she was NLOG and suffered from internalised misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:56 PM
3

Then who's placing that pressure on men to be in relationships with women? Who are the ones stigmatising PUAs and fuckboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:32 PM
5

They want us to drop our standards so we'll have no valid resson to reject a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:24 PM
1

Are the things that make you look goodin the room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:10 PM
4

Have you even tried looking up how feminists react when men say Margot Robbie is mid? They really think it's a duty for us to be in relationships with women (also why the term "pump and dump" is so stigmatised by feminists).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:09 PM
4

Are we talking about the same feminists who will deride literally every standard men have, which is functionally the same as being available for relationships to any woman we won't be attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:53 PM
-1

The fuck do makeup and fashion have to do with attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:49 PM
1

You mean the crypto feminist who'll just redirect misandric stereotypes at people not protected by cis privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 01:38 AM
3

Point proven
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:35 AM
6

You may have a vast ocean but alot of the fishes are not the ones your looking for and/or poisonous. Not like this doesn't happen when dating women either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:34 AM
0

Ah yes, the good old "it wasn't real socialism." Last time didn't count, it wasn't used properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:32 AM
1

No, you just cited stuff from mfs who think it's ok to redefine what men should be attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:29 AM
1

Have they been able to look like attractive women, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:23 AM
1

I don't owe anyone my attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:19 AM
2

I guess it might actually move her up among coulrophiliacs, but it's otherwise a downgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:17 AM
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