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It does matter but not in the way you are thinking, if you smell bad it will repulse them.
/r/seduction17/06/25 08:48 PM
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If I am going to do something, anything, especially if it matters, I generally find I do it better if I am chilled and relaxed rather than stuck in my head and obsessing about it. If he has the skills, being stuck in his head and mentally flapping, being uptight, worrying, getting beaten down on every failure, sounds less productive, than just doing the same thing, having a laugh and getting over temporary drawbacks. Next time, I sit an exam for example, what do you suggest I do on the day, shou…
/r/seduction17/06/25 06:31 PM
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Further to add if you are bothered about the outcome, you will be feeling pressure. She will also feel that pressure and class it as “creepy”.
/r/seduction17/06/25 04:25 PM
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The minute you have expectations for your approach, your possibly going to start beating yourself up, and start taking it too seriously. You can still be direct and tell women what you enjoy and what you are looking for, whilst not giving a fuck if it goes anywhere or not.
/r/seduction17/06/25 04:21 PM
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And you think someone obsessing and focussing on the appointments, is going to get more appointments than someone chilled and relaxed?
/r/seduction17/06/25 04:19 PM
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The answer to that is that you can have a "goal" that depends on you, not a goal that depends on her Spot on. The only goal I have is to have fun and enjoy myself. And this is totally on myself, she wants to be bitchy, sad, annoyed, angry, whatever, that's on her, I can and will stay happy, there is no need to buy into her frame. As for rest of the post, in total agreement. As for the "goal" of getting laid. WHAT???? So unless I am thinking about it in my head all the time, does my sexuality jus…
/r/seduction17/06/25 10:48 AM
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Please, just go and talk to her.
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:06 PM
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Fair, I have not seen those. Did not realise this sub was so basic.
/r/seduction15/06/25 04:57 PM
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Nice
/r/seduction15/06/25 03:03 PM
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Psycho Cybernetics basically teaches how to visualise and backs it up with evidence ie, Sports teams doing better with a visualisation session of success, etc. Sure its on Kindle Unlimited, The folks on RSD Nation back in the ay used to orgasm over it at any mention (Watch an infield, visualise you are doing the infield, over and over again).
/r/seduction14/06/25 09:00 PM
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Being quiet all by yourself in a corner, talking to no one, as people wonder "why is he so weird and anti social" is not what we mean in dating about women liking mysterious guys. Who the hell said that was what it meant?
/r/seduction14/06/25 07:02 PM
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I didn’t try and do 100 hours of pickup advice at once and still don’t. I focussed on working on approach anxiety first, do I could get comfortable walking up to women. Then once it felt natural I added a bit more and a bit more. As far as watching videos goes, I watch listen to the same ones over and over again (obviously breaks in between) so it sinks in deeper and deeper and I can apply what I have experienced. As far as skills and drills go. I like to think 1 hour of video should be 5 hours …
/r/seduction14/06/25 12:50 PM
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When they say "Do you want to go upstairs" or "I want your penis inside me". Generally means its on. But I am sure if you are over analytical, you can find some wierd statistic to base your views on instead of trial and error through taking action. Also, women like men who are confident, waiting for them to lead you, is not confidence.
/r/seduction12/06/25 03:02 PM
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The woman will always bring it up.... sooner or later. Just don't promise or imply anything else, if FWB is all you want. Also, if you want to be FWB only, don't get butthurt if she later finds someone who wants a relationship with her.
/r/seduction12/06/25 03:00 PM
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There is no right or wrong answer. Be prepared to lose a few leads, experiment and learn to calibrate intuitively.
/r/seduction11/06/25 08:46 AM
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I want to say this shouldn’t need stating. But as an older guy I have seen quite a few guys get married, think they have “won the game”, stop trying, lose all motivation, let themselves go and…. Wonder why they are in a sexless marriage full of passive aggression at best. The ones who seem to have happy marriages actually have shit to be getting on with in their lives and still have purpose.
/r/seduction11/06/25 08:33 AM
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Men lead women follow. She has said she wants a date, now you plan one or you don't.
/r/seduction09/06/25 07:20 PM
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Thank you
/r/seduction08/06/25 07:44 PM
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Are people seriously suggesting that my body language in a club could somehow change a girl’s mindset and make her want to be with me? Lets try an experiment, next time you have a job interview, or just go into a shop, create the most negative closed off awkward body language you can, and tell me how it goes.
/r/seduction08/06/25 03:23 PM
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That’s a cool story bro.
/r/seduction08/06/25 09:17 AM
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How do you advise people to change these beliefs? That’s what matters really.
/r/seduction08/06/25 09:17 AM
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Oh yeah… totally
/r/seduction08/06/25 08:39 AM
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I used to use lines and openers a lot, however.... I would stop thinking about it when outside, they would just come out naturally. However it took me a while to trust myself to stop thinking about it and trust the process. Rehearsal ---> forget ---> Comes out naturally. Its like driving a car, when I am driving, I focus on navigating, eveything else is subconciois. But to get to that point, when I first start lessons, I had to spend lessons in the car park just changing gear, had to have everyt…
/r/seduction07/06/25 04:57 PM
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Like I agree with what OP says in principle. But guys who are socially anxious, got lots of negative beliefs, etc, cannot just "become normal bro".
/r/seduction07/06/25 02:35 PM
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I just remember some video by Cajun regarding this whole way of framing things. I have played with it a bit and it is effective. Why am I going to treat a woman like someone I have just approached and must "imrpress", when I can just believe I am already fucking her, this behave and act that way, the strongest frame always wins. At the time, I was quite intrigued by it.
/r/seduction07/06/25 02:14 PM
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Thats some proper old school PUA stuff, I like it.
/r/seduction07/06/25 01:37 PM
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I want to add, when listening, focus on your breath, not thoughts in your head, it will enable you to be fully present. That said... nice post.
/r/seduction07/06/25 01:25 PM
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In some ways it is easier, they are not looking at you as a provider, you just have to be fun and gfive them what they are not getting at home. NOTE: Not my kind of thing, but each to their own.
/r/seduction07/06/25 11:15 AM
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Yes say something, then see how they respond.
/r/seduction06/06/25 11:01 PM
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Why would you record this hit if you are not trying to instruct or teach? Better idea... just my two cents.... actually goto these places and do some people watching.
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:21 PM
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If she likes you, you will get away with a few more fumbles. Basically you just have to make sure you don't fuck it up. This does not however mean, she will take the initiative and lead the whole interaction. However, yes.... some actually WILL do that, but I would say that is the exception not the norm. She may position herself next to you for no real reason, keep walking by you, make strong eye contact. You still need to approach/walk up/make a move however. But at this point, all you have to …
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:18 PM
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There is no right or wrong answer to this. I have bought women at the bar before, never straight the way. But you know what if a woman buys me a drink, I am going to buy her one back. Some woman, granted I didn't meet her "at a bar", it was actually a restaurant that also had a bar. I was chatting to the bouncer outside, and some woman tried butting in, I totally ignored her for a while, then finally gave her her validation (some attention, everyone loves attention). Eventually she moved on to a…
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:14 PM
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40s here, yes but I am more picky. Look most women I meet are from social events on Meetup and I do spend time in bars that are not geared towards teeny boppers. Do I pay for the first date. Yes. Do I try and choose expensive dates to "impress" her with, no. Look I have mates who I have just dragged out for a few drinks or a meal, because they are mates. This is no different. I am not a foodie, so I do not do extravagant meals. However I do not do McDonalds either. For me to get to that point, I…
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:01 PM
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Only speaking for myself, I am fine in real life. However, I hate texting, would rather just phone someone. So when it comes to texting I suck. And I am aware I need to sort this out, as at end of day, its just another skill. However, want to sort some more important things regarding lifestyle out first.
/r/seduction06/06/25 01:39 PM
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No OP said in regard to dating apps, and I mentioned texting. Do you communicate on a date with text messages? Why would I need to send text messages on a date?
/r/seduction06/06/25 01:29 PM
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Workplace is off limits. Women who have been involved with friends are off limits. As a slightly older guy, no 18 - 22 year olds. No lying on my intentions, I am quite up front that about it just being fun.
/r/seduction06/06/25 12:50 PM
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With Necrophilia, you don't need game, just a shovel.
/r/seduction06/06/25 12:48 PM
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Change your goals. Once a goal is completed, you need a new one.
/r/seduction06/06/25 12:30 PM
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Agree and carry on, then eject.
/r/seduction06/06/25 11:13 AM
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Attractive women always have a boyfriend. It actually means nothing, if it does mean something, they will make firm boundaries and bring it up themselves. If there is no ring, it is not serious. I draw a line at married women, at the end of the day, I don't know who they are married to, and don't want a slab of muscle kicking my door in because I messed with his wife.
/r/seduction06/06/25 09:54 AM
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Not dating apps related, but AI related. If I am going to go out in an evening and am feeling a bit low energy. I will ask ChatGPT to "Impersonate a board of seduction experts, consisting of Hypnotica and Ross Jeffries, and have them give me some pre-sarge ritual to get my state up and solidify my beliefs in myself and also impersonate Mystery and Neil Strauss to give me some warm up exercises to get the social juices flowing" All I am going to say is, it works for me. Women spend hours getting …
/r/seduction06/06/25 09:51 AM
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He is talking about texting and sending messages, not being mid date. You communicate with your voice on a date, right? If you call chatting online a date, then I apologise. Granted I do use chatGPT for text game advice, text game is something I do need to work on. But I generally prefer just calling someone, its less hassle than texting and messaging.
/r/seduction06/06/25 09:47 AM
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I initially started out with Mystery Method, when I was too self concious to even approach. That helped quite a lot. No I did not try and do the whole method consciously. I just worked on approaching, then once my approach anxiety was at manageable levels, I added another step. Waited till I did it automatically, then the next step and so on, Although this did help.... initially. I was also doing a lot of inner game stuff, focussing on congruency, (beliefs, thoughts and actions all aligning) amo…
/r/seduction06/06/25 09:43 AM
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It depends on the women. I have noticed that flaky women are generally more keen to meet, once you flake on them "who is this guy that can fob me off, most guys are desperate and needy, what makes him so special". However, it will only work on "some" women. Yeah I have not done it the way you said, but have had to postpone dates before, then suddenly they really do take the lead in sorting out a date. In other cases, they just disappear as they feel rejected. My normal approach, when it comes to…
/r/seduction05/06/25 07:30 PM
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He says hello to a woman and she starts banging him.
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:50 PM
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So what you are saying is every time you talk to any woman, they instantly jump you and you have sex? How about, that confidence you created from cold approach, you use for talking to religious women, and you just cut out the sexual escalation. I am assuming as you can talk to any woman and it leads to sex so well, to the point, that you need to stop talking to women, that your social skills are pretty good. Socialising is not just about sex.
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:48 PM
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Look, pick up can be addictive. There is a certain high from talking to a random person and it leading somewhere. HOWEVER.... like anything done to excess, it can become unhealthy. Also in a lot of cases, it is used by guys to get validation from other guys, as inside they still feel worthless. Its the same as a lot of things in todays society, a little bit is fine, but excess is unhealthy.
/r/seduction05/06/25 12:54 PM
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Fair point.
/r/seduction05/06/25 12:39 PM
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Do it consciously first, accept resistance. Once you do enough reps, it will become second nature. Do you goto the gym? If so, when you first started, did it feel natural, part of your life or did you have to make a conscious effort to go? Then after a while, its just a natural habit and it feels weird if you don't go.
/r/seduction04/06/25 10:10 PM
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I would rather live this life and enjoy it, rather than have a "content mindset" where I stay stuck in my head about IG. But yeah.... thats just me.
/r/seduction04/06/25 06:34 PM
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I would say "things I could of done differently" or "things I could do better". Try studying something (lets move away from dates for a minute) and constantly telling yourself you make mistakes and fuck up. Your not gonna do well. When it comes to this shit, and yeah dates go bad. I reckon a lot of guys are way too harsh on themselves, focus on the negatives and don't notice the things they did right. Unless you have a frame of mind where you can actually learn, well lets just hope you "get luck…
/r/seduction04/06/25 06:25 PM
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If it is facts and figures, can be put on a spreadsheet or presentation, yeah.... don't bring it up.
/r/seduction04/06/25 06:23 PM
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This basically. And also be relaxed and have fun.
/r/seduction04/06/25 06:22 PM
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That wasn't me initially who downvoted your comment. To prove my point, I will now downvote it. See it is -1 instead of 0.
/r/seduction04/06/25 02:47 PM
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Go there for a code when you are not working. See if any of the regulars gravitate towards you.
/r/seduction04/06/25 12:17 PM
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Read No More Mr Nice Guy and do the exercises
/r/seduction04/06/25 12:14 PM
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You remember the guy Rasputin from the Game. Look for Hypnotica Masters Circle, Attractivator and "Attractor Factor". Just listen to those every night, then go out. Sort out your inners, your outers will take care of themselves,
/r/seduction04/06/25 08:34 AM
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Implementing a bit of Misery Method if your completely useless with women, is totally different to living for The Game only, spending 8 hours a day approaching sets and living in a dysfunctional house where everyone hates each other. Look I like going to the gym, but if I made it all I did in life, it would probably not be a good thing.
/r/seduction04/06/25 08:32 AM
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Just ask chatGPT to become guru of choice. Job done. Or better yet a committee of them so you can get advice from multiple angles
/r/seduction03/06/25 11:04 PM
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If you want to recruit a wingman, you need to be doing approaches, not getting blown out, then all sorts of wierdo's will come and want to be your wing. In your case, based on your spelling, I imagine you are the wierdo. Do you have money to buy a guy a few drinks if he approaches women and introduces you? Now... you don't want to approach a guy who is obviously getting somewhere and escalating, that would just be odd. You want a guy who approaches, and doesn't care if he is blown out. Ya see, h…
/r/seduction03/06/25 10:55 PM
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Just accept rejection is part of the game.
/r/seduction03/06/25 09:09 PM
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RSD dude.
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:48 PM
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They are there to be practiced. Me and 2 wings used to practice routines on each other for 2 - 3 hours every Saturday afternoon before going out. Then when we went out we would just "go natural", but the stuff we rehearsed would always naturally come up. If you just read it, then try to consciously "perform it" well good luck. You will be stuck in your head. Its like martial arts, you practice kicks and punches in training, but once your in the ring, you need to be present and muscle memory take…
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:48 PM
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Bit late for that bro, everything around you marketting and advertising. EVERYTHING IS MANIPULATION. Think you really wanted that phone in your hand? Think you really wanted the exact food you purchased, the car you have, the clothes you wear. Bit late for "no manipulation" bro.
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:13 PM
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Nice marketing attempt. Make out its forbidden, give a story about some guy with two women. And people click your link. Anyone who knows anything about marketing can see right through this gimmick.
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:11 PM
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OK, well you know best. Anyway, have a nice day.
/r/seduction03/06/25 11:39 AM
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Never been out around France, apart from some night club once at Euro Disney. But my personal advice is, be chilled and relaxed (ideally get into this state before you leave the door) and talk to everyone. If you have wingmen, yeah you can push each other into approaching and lift each others mood/state. However, Solo, you do not have this luxury. However that is also why Solo can really boost your social skills. But I want to emphasise the talk to everyone. Its too easy to enter a lower state a…
/r/seduction03/06/25 07:26 AM
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what about men? Look for the "pig Woman" experiment, thats how easy and thirsty men are, The jokes about "men would fuck anything with a pulse" do have a grounding in reality even if not totally true. There is nothing that needs to be added.
/r/seduction03/06/25 05:50 AM
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Oh right, I guess everyone who would read your post would have their approach anxiety instantly disappear due to hearing this new viewpoint. No... this is logical information, for it to dissapear, it needs to be viewed as more than just logical information and facts. Also, for you to take notice of this and apply it, it needs to have value. As its free from a random person on reddit, there is no value and I don't have any social proof. So you have no reason to listen to me. I'm just being brutal…
/r/seduction02/06/25 06:44 PM
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You honestly believe that in a bar or club, nobody has their own worries, their own thoughts, their own lives and instead choose to focus all their attention on you and what you do. Seriously, step off your pedstal, nobody give a fuck. Also "The walk of shame" is Army slang. Its when a girl gets banged by a squaddie and she has to leave the accomodation block, and everyone watches and laughs. Then has to go through the guard gates by the guard room. And everyone who sees it really does know exac…
/r/seduction02/06/25 03:00 PM
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Please do not ask her if she enjoyed your company. Please be sure of yourself and your worth. It will help you greatly in all aspects of life, not just seduction.
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:34 PM
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Forget reading and conciously analysing shit. Get something like Hypnotica's Masters Circle Hypnotalks or Collection of Confidence. Listen to the hypno every night, Then go out in evenings and introduce yourself to women, "Hi I am so and so". Watch the reactions change as you rewrite the shit in your head with the essence of being a Masters Circle Man. Its easier to speak directly to the subconcious with hypno, than to just read book and acquire knowledge. Also the Ross Jeffries Unstoppable Conf…
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:15 PM
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Have you read the sidebar yet, the wiki?
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:03 PM
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And again... none of that resonates with me. I did not view talking to women as a waste of time or energy. Anyway I will say this again, lets agree to disagree.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:04 PM
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If the woman views it as harassment
/r/seduction01/06/25 06:09 PM
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Nice post. Night game is a chaotic adventure that unfolds not a predictable thing that follows structure
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:59 PM
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London is probably best place. Nottingham, fine for night game, but not day game, there is an actual bylaw, I may have had something to do with that due to back in the day when there were 3 or 4 lairs plus some regular day gamers. All just ping ponging off of every woman, which is what caused the issues. As RSD are no longer on the scene, people have stopped doing day game so much now, so you are more likely to stand out rather than be another of the Yad stop guys. Granted, they were good times.…
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:39 PM
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I personally disagree, if a woman looks good I will tell her. I am not trying to game everyone. Granted I am pretty sure you use Mystery Method from a lot of stuff you write (I may be wrong, just an assumption), so I know that is different to what I use. But... if it works for you.... it works for you.
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:26 PM
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Just an enthusiast. I am going to say that personally our beliefs are the core of who we are. As for frame, the strongest frame always wins, so the person with the strongest beliefs will always dominate. If you are unsure you are attractive for instance, well, you will let other decide that belief for you. Instead of being the player, you are the played.
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:24 PM
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How is socialising and talking to women injurious, harmful or unproductive. Its fun, should I not do anything fun in my life because its unproductive? Talking to fellow humans is part of life to me, not a waste. Anyway, I will stop this convo with you, it may be harmful. Lets just agree to disagree. Have a good un.
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:23 PM
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It was some of the language you used, "fatal" and so on. That just did not resonate.
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:08 AM
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Congrats bro. I always found the regret ate me up, more than a rejection ever could.
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:07 AM
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OK... that makes sense. I had had relationships before (and after) I discovered the seduction community. I had worked in a couple of night clubs, bar staff, glass collector and promo work. I had friends who at the time, I did not understand how they attracted the women they did. I also had a ton of rejections as well as some successes and also a lot of "Lets just be friends". So when I first read seduction material (The Game), I was not working with a blank slate. I had loads of reference points…
/r/seduction01/06/25 08:06 AM
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Also..... taking photo's, crafting a bio, the algorithm, etc. That takes time and energy. Soz bro, would rather just have a shower, put on some decent clothes and step outside. Less hassle.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:56 AM
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I find it harder to get interest from someone online, last time i used a swipe app I must of swiped 20 - 30 women before getting a couple of matches. The percentage of getting a date from that was even less. Where as IRL, you can use your gut instinct and know who will be receptive and who won't. Most of it is just intuitive. With just seeing a phot o and bio, I find it more challenging, its pot luck.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:54 AM
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OK well you do you. I hope your life brings you joy and happiness.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:46 AM
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OK... well thanks anyway.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:45 AM
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Hard to answer, people interpret "advice" different ways. I have dabbled with a few systems, but I never saw them as gospel or "the only way to do things", it was more of a "I wonder what will happen if I try this" just out of curiosity. Take Mystery Method Opinion Openers for example (at this point, I no longer use them, just for the record, but when I was more socially anxious, it helped), I would see how outrageous I could make them and get away with. Same with other things. As for the you mu…
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:43 AM
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The multiple social events taking place in cities any and every day. As well as places where lots of people go. Personally I don't view interacting with other humans as a waste of time.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:35 AM
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I agree, that is evolution taking place. However, I am not sure how that opposes a requirement to go out and be social as opposed to doing nothing. Hint: I do not agree with shitting where I eat, I will not get involved with co-workers (no matter how tempting it might be). So I need to goto social places.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:22 AM
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Your not chasing and scaring them away.
/r/seduction01/06/25 07:19 AM
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Inner game comes down to your knowledge and skill. Not only being able to think on your feet but what to say and how to react… all the way down to your physical posture and how you carry yourself. I want to say I agree but also your beliefs (a person who believes he is attractive will act, feel and behave differently to a man that believes he is one inch too short thus un datable). To me, frame is like the container for the interaction — your unshakable baseline. Inner game is the toolkit you br…
/r/seduction01/06/25 01:28 AM
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Hello DeadDog, In your view, what’s the difference between inner game and frame — and which one collapses first under real pressure?
/r/seduction01/06/25 12:23 AM
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Also heard the same excuse that OP brought up on cold approach: “if you’re smooth and have good looks you’d have it easy on any dating apps.” Basically doesn’t matter what means of finding women you use, you gotta have decent looks social skillsets. At the end of the day, you gotta talk to them face to face. The line "He was hot until he opened his mouth" exists for a reason.
/r/seduction01/06/25 12:11 AM
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Putting yourself out there just means not sitting in and going to social places. Look I dunno what part of the UK you were in, but where I live in the UK, women do not do home invasions to meet men.
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:50 PM
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Ok well thanks for your insightful post, have a nice day.
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:23 PM
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I think your inner game is kinda fucked just from all of this. Have you seen the state of the sub?
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:20 PM
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Just better than cold approach. For you..... And if its better than cold approach... well so what.... I enjoy cold approach for the sake of it in itself..... what does it matter?
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:17 PM
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If online works for you so well, why do you even care? You are clearly going to argue with anyone who says otherwise. What is your purpose here?
/r/seduction31/05/25 11:11 PM
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Non neediness, you are not chasing or perusing them and they find you attractive, Neediness and desperation scares them away. You are not having the effect. This is why peeps write 3000 word essays on non neediness (and also eye contact).
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:29 PM
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This mistake becomes fatal. You can’t afford to misread interest anymore. Why how does rejection change? That was my biggest mistake. And trust me—at 30+ that mistake costs way more than it did at 23. Time. Energy. Emotional bandwidth. All down the drain. Dude your 30 not 90. Surely you can still go out and have a laugh, if it leads somewhere, cool. If not you spent an evening talking to someone. You talk to her thinking she likes you. You build out a whole vibe in your head. But nothing is actu…
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:20 PM
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Rarely happens that way. If he is super violent and does beat her about, she will probably say you raped her. Look I am not gonna go all moralistic on you, its life, this stuff happens. But.... your next door neighbour. Don't shit on your own doorstep, is meant to be a metaphor, not literal advice. Good luck bro.
/r/seduction31/05/25 08:36 PM
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GFTOW
/r/seduction31/05/25 08:24 PM
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Move away, own it and behave like everything is normal or live a life of awkwardness. Hopefully her fiance isn't a violent psychopath. Sooner or later she will mention she got fucked in your car just to piss him off. Then boom boom, end of story bro.
/r/seduction31/05/25 08:06 PM
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Either quit, or sort your inner game out. Better than being half in and half out. Or transmax, and let a man lead you so you don't need to take action.
/r/seduction31/05/25 07:37 PM
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I found sets of 3+ the easiest, once you open, the other girls will go back to talking amongst themselves. You just need to make them comfortable with you. Addressing the whole group as opposed to ignoring them, seems to do that better than homing in on one girl. As for a 2 set, well say you get with the girl. Whats her friend now going to do, either have a wing man or recruit a wingman. Read Mystery Method "Group Theory", don't read anything else, its too technical.
/r/seduction31/05/25 07:28 PM
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To ruin your life
/r/seduction31/05/25 07:21 PM
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Get into a decent state before you leave your door. As for structure, there are plenty of resources out there, and different people will argue semantics. However.... look for "Too late, mate" and the follow up "52 first dates" which is more technical. Finally, make a habit of starting small talk with one person every time you leave the house. Remember its a marathon, not a sprint.
/r/seduction31/05/25 06:26 PM
1

I am pretty sure whatever your hair style there is some woman who will not like it. What is this magical haircut then, that all women like. Also accepting some women won't like you - well handling rejection is part of the game.
/r/seduction31/05/25 06:18 PM
1

Yes but it is better to have some women attracted to you, than no women because of your insecurities.
/r/seduction31/05/25 06:06 PM
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Now you sir, are talking things that matter, not surface level bullshit. Please cut that out on this sub. By the way, what colour socks should I wear?, There is this one girl I have been staring at for years, I added her on Facebook, but I need to know what colour socks will make her approach me and her take the lead (this sub in a nutshell). Also one time she said she wanted a nice guy, and I am so nice.
/r/seduction31/05/25 06:04 PM
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Third week—work got hectic for her. I suggested hanging out twice that weekend. Both times she said she had other plans. I didn’t say anything, but I was clearly upset and my tone in our chats changed. You asked her once, she said no, you have other things to do right. If she says no, give her space, let her come back. Women generally come back if they are attracted, and you leave them alone. If you are asking her multiple times over one weekend, then changing your tone because some woman was bu…
/r/seduction31/05/25 04:56 PM
1

Well thats the sub killed off. Cheers Joking aside, yeah its the same thing over and over and over again.
/r/seduction31/05/25 01:23 PM
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Really depends on the context. I used to have a shark tooth around my neck on a leather cord. Was good... people commenting on it. Others just ignoring it (just an easy way for someone to make conversation with me). Then I bumped into some leftie hippie who went nuts over it (not in a good way) until her friends dragged her away. Although yeah you could say that was peacocking, wearing something to get me noticed and give interested women an excuse to talk to me, normally when you chuck that wor…
/r/seduction31/05/25 01:17 PM
1

OK, move on. Or carrying on arguing with her.
/r/seduction31/05/25 01:13 PM
2

That stuff works at a scary level (currently using them).
/r/seduction31/05/25 12:40 PM
1

Thank you for sharing your journey.
/r/seduction31/05/25 10:05 AM
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Nice post. I am not a coach but will give my two cents: Your student was using the outcome of an approach to assess himself. This will have led to to spikes and troughs in regards to dopamine hits. As opposed to giving himself internal validation ( as opposed to using sets for validation) for the use of his skills. Yeah everyone wants positive outcomes. But if you become dependent on them for validation, basically what you described will happen. Not to mention, state crashes and weird energy flo…
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:39 AM
1

100% agree.
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:22 AM
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Thank you Gramma Nazi guy. Have given you an upvote.
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:21 AM
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Clearly in this case it was. Who dares, wins Interesting insight into the horror story you play in your head by the way.
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:19 AM
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Ideally lead the whole thing. If you start listing pro's / con's you are going into facts figures mode. If it can be displayed as facts or figure, put into a spreadsheet, or a presentation... do not go there. She wants to have a fun time and relax, not get decision fatigue, because you are unable to lead her through an enjoyable experience.
/r/seduction31/05/25 09:00 AM
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I am going to say, dressing well and owning the look is more important. Also as far as the shaven head thing goes, I am also going to say it depends on your age. If your an older guy, shaven head + goatee or facial stubble, is probably better than thinning hair or a horse shoe. Of course if you are self conscious of it and doubting yourself then no it will not help. Its almost like what goes off in your mind is the most important (shocker eh). As far as being muscular, again confidence and belie…
/r/seduction31/05/25 07:56 AM
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Its almost like their is positive side to be in the "friendzone" and not be perusing your "friend" and actually just being a friend.
/r/seduction30/05/25 10:17 PM
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Having a good looking wingman makes everything so clear! I promise lol I have been there. I used to hang around with a guy who was an ex-model. Yeah if a woman was just DTF and approached him, he would get laid. Another experience was some girls saying they wanted to talk to him as he was hotter than me, I left them to it. Then they came back to me, and I said what about hot guy, there exact words were "He was hot until he opened his mouth" basically he just tried to escalate too fast. Then in b…
/r/seduction30/05/25 09:00 PM
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Your friends and family will overlook glaring issues and tell you "you are fine the way you are". They are not people I would personally take seriously on that sort of thing, a night out sarging or random internet strangers, are normally the best sources of truth. Assuming you can handle the truth.
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:50 PM
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Does it work? If so.. carry on If not... try something else.
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:28 PM
1

Nah... they don't want to get beaten any more.
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:27 PM
1

When your attending her funeral, lillies are normally the best choice.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:45 PM
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I'm not one for dating a friends ex. Just a nope for me. But then again this is 2025, things are different. However.... Her best friend was telling me she wants a “nice guy now” which just put me off as if she went through a hoe phase and now wants me to fix her Personally what I would do is take that as a hint to read and apply "No More Mr Nice Guy" by Robert Glover to your life.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:37 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with the implication that I have to be an endless stream of consciousness (more based on your last bit). But I do believe that beliefs, emotions, actions and words should all be aligned. thus I am congruent. Instead of saying one thing and thinking or feeling another. However, there is still times when a filter is needed. IE, if I want to bend a girl over and shove my cock in her, I won't just blurt it out.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:35 PM
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I did not know that by doing cold approach, non verbal's ceased to exist, mind blown. So what happens, I give a "mischievous grin" and what... do I not need to go and talk to them afterwards? Whilst I would agree, you can turn a cold approach into a warm approach with some non verbals and forcing an IOI. Your post does not exactly read that way,
/r/seduction30/05/25 01:25 PM
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Getting jacked does not change the fact that you as a man need to lead. Women don't look at a man and think "Wow he is jacked, I will now lead the interaction". In fact if you look like you have your shit together, they will actually EXPECT you to have your shit together. Note: I am not saying do not get into shape, however, it is not a way of bypassing being able to talk to a person and having social skills. You do it for you.
/r/seduction30/05/25 01:16 PM
1

"I want to stay friends" is just a polite way of saying "fuck off".... forget about her and move on. Lets put it this way, if she really wanted to be your friend, she would reach out.
/r/seduction30/05/25 01:13 PM
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In the context of this post, if I am at a point where I am trying to keep the conversation going for the sake of keeping conversation going, then that is where I would break rapport. If its one of those conversations where time just dissapears and its like being sucked into a bubble with that person, then no. However at that point, I would also be trying to bounce them somewhere after the social event (even if its go for a drink) and would be arranging meeting up before next organised social eve…
/r/seduction30/05/25 12:58 PM
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No.... better to leave it on a high, than drag it out, and bore them with your lack of enthusiasm. Proper term is "breaking rapport". Leave em on a high, so they want more. Then re-engage later.
/r/seduction30/05/25 12:17 PM
1

Do you honestly view yourself as being worthless unless you have a tattoo. Sort your inner game out.
/r/seduction30/05/25 11:34 AM
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Thanks
/r/seduction30/05/25 11:11 AM
2

This, I would of at least sent a "Hey, although I enjoyed your company, I did not feel the spark or any chemistry". Letting people down politely without being a c**t is something women have unintentionally taught me.
/r/seduction30/05/25 11:09 AM
1

Solid
/r/seduction30/05/25 10:43 AM
1

Find an asexual guy. Problem solved.
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:15 AM
1

What exactly do you mean by "try to polarize", its an overused buzzword, without an example, its kinda vague. Accept you are going to crash and burn, and go in for a close regardless, you will naturally calibrate as you get more feedback. I try to refrain from the work stuff but then i am only left with some deep questions that i find irrelevant! Like what? Again this is kind of vague. You are talking to another person, with their own history, experiences and life. Yet outside talking about work…
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:06 AM
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If your typing it, thats the state your in. Your clearly not in abundance and you clearly give too much of a fuck. This post is it externalising in one way. It will externalise in other ways as well, and she will pick up on it subconciously.
/r/seduction30/05/25 07:19 AM
1

Just message her saying you are not free this weekend as you have something planned with Louise. Add some pre-selection and jealousy, instead of the desperation, neediness and emotional over investment this post stinks of.
/r/seduction30/05/25 07:00 AM
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Should I be kissing them at the beginning or middle of the date instead? If I feel a woman and there’s that spark, I don’t wait until the end of the night like I’m trying to time a dramatic movie scene. Why hold back genuine connection just to check a box before saying goodbye? If you’re treating the kiss like a “move” — like it’s some calculated action you have to take — you’re stepping out of the moment and into your head. That’s why it feels awkward afterward. You’re looking for the next move…
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:03 AM
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Add "Right now, I feel like..." to the beginning of everything they say, if you cannot fathom that women are not robots and what they feel and say changes as they know you more and more. Also, even if she is saying what she said, she is clearly thinking about having sex with you, hence why she said it. Maybe she was trying to convince herself, who knows, who cares.
/r/seduction30/05/25 05:35 AM
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The more you keep believing that and telling yourself that, the more your reality will wrap itself around that belief. I want you to spend 5 minutes a day, talking effortlessly with a woman, enjoying it and you both having fun (whatever that may mean). Rewrite your inner horror movie into something useful. At the minute you have an autopilot that purposefully drives a plane into a mountain. FIX IT.
/r/seduction29/05/25 06:23 PM
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Stay present, focus on the person you are talking to, not the shit in your head. Be genuinely curious about the person you are speaking to. You will be speaking to another person, with their own history, interests, and personality. How is that not something to talk about. Also make gentle jokes and tease them. Its not about you, its about them. NOTE: If its a topic that consists of facts, data, numbers and could be put on a spreadsheet, do not talk about it. Keep it emotional, not factual. NOTE …
/r/seduction29/05/25 05:42 PM
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Told a girl I like that it would be better to stay friends because I dont want to be reminded of our relationship. So you were in a relationship? It only lasted a week but during thay time we hung out all day everyday and even called for hours on end after school and went on a date. I also said that to eliminate the possibility of getting friendzoned if she does decide to text again. So to avoid the friendzone, you put yourself in it? Do I text her later down to the road and see if I can get som…
/r/seduction29/05/25 03:47 PM
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Women respond to the subconscious not the conscious, explaining something factually does not simulate the concious mind. This is seduction billy basics 101.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:57 AM
1

Escalate What was your purpose opn adding her on insta, if you have no direction in life. Maybe just validate her like an orbiting chiode, isn't that what guys normally do on insta?
/r/seduction28/05/25 05:30 PM
2

Whilst I enjoyed "The Game" and "The Truth". I think its more for the fringe maniacs of the seduction community. I may be wrong, but I don't believe the average user of this sub is out gaming 8 hours a day for 2 years solid, which what the "Guru's" seem to do, have done. So whilst I agree, that obsession with Game and Seduction can corrupt a persons soul, I do not believe that implementing some Game on weekends and doing a bit of inner game work through out the week, is quite what Strauss/Style …
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:26 PM
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"Lets go grab a coffee...." Pulling the trigger is part of escalating things. Sure you can become a great sexless conversationalist. But ultimately men lead and women follow. Yes there are exceptions, but they are the exception not the norm. If you are never going to see her again, why do you care if she thinks you are confident enough to show your true intentions (unless great conversation really is your intention).
/r/seduction27/05/25 07:55 PM
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Raw attraction (I don't just mean physical) which is emotional beats preferences which are logical. IE, a grounded man, who is sure of himself is better than a [insert preference here] man who is ungrounded and unsure of himself. Ultimately though its a numbers game. But if your stuck in your head, worrying about some random persons preferences, well you know what they say "The man that is stuck in his head, won't get any head".
/r/seduction27/05/25 04:49 PM
1

Don't dip you quill in the company ink. The workplace is for working. If its not related to the job, do not do it or talk about it.
/r/seduction27/05/25 12:55 PM
0

If you believe you are creepy, then you will become creepy. Change the internal dialogue.
/r/seduction27/05/25 11:35 AM
2

Keep taking action, remember rejection is part of the process, its what carves your character.
/r/seduction25/05/25 10:32 AM
1

You should be doing them regardless. Whats next, ability to breathe plays an important part?
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:56 AM
1

Fear of losing what they have. Not sure why it matters tbh as far as this sub goes. Just stay as yourself and don't lose frame. Yeah you may be scared of losing what you have, but there are plenty of fish in the bar.
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:50 AM
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43 year old here. I shaved the hair off. Felt better ever since. When women walk up in a bar on a Friday or Saturday night and ask if they can lick your head. Damn that shit is validating. Also, if your not hitting the gym, start. Not to bulk up, but for confidence and endorphins.
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:48 AM
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I am in partial agreement with what other peeps are saying in that she is using you. HOWEVER.... if this is your FIRST date, then congratz. Even if it goes nowhere, at least you will have more belief and self confidence. However, this could be a bit risky if something happens with the deal. But life is full of risks, it is the man who embraces them, instead of hiding and making excuses.
/r/seduction24/05/25 12:06 PM
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This... it all comes down to reading the person and being able to see where they are at and calibrate. As well as being able to keep a strong frame and let rejection roll off you like water off a ducks back (easier said than done). I would also say this is something that comes intuitively over time, the more you go out.
/r/seduction24/05/25 09:34 AM
1

I have a learnt a lot of guys have negative thoughts running in their heads and create amazing narratives so they can avoid taking action.
/r/seduction23/05/25 01:07 PM
1

Does that comedian focus on the same audience forever, or try new jokes with new audiences.
/r/seduction23/05/25 12:20 PM
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If your going out just to hookup... good luck. If you are going out to have fun and talk to people... then its quite easy. Desperation and neediness is repulsive.
/r/seduction23/05/25 10:35 AM
1

Gay best friend, friend zoned dude buying her shit, brother, friend, who knows.
/r/seduction23/05/25 10:02 AM
1

As much as I like day/night "Game" (if you need to put interacting people into some wierd box), Facebook is stupidly easy. Send Friend Requests, sooner or later you get a "Do I know you", say you think you recognise them from somewhere. Ask em what they are doing at the weekend, say your meeting them for a drink (remember to sort logistics). As people like commenting on their looks on here (as it is apparently the be all / end all of everything), I am probably a 5/10 and 43 years old and have no…
/r/seduction23/05/25 09:27 AM
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Sounds like its YOU that thinks your wierd or a creep. Then yeah, strongest frame wins, you influence a person who was neutral into believing that. Congrats on powerfully influencing people.
/r/seduction23/05/25 08:26 AM
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Gave you an upvote sir. Peeps don't like being handed the keys from their mental prisons.
/r/seduction23/05/25 08:25 AM
0

You missed out "Covert Contracts". "If I am a complete doormat, agree with her on everything and I supplicate her to hell and back, she will love me forever and ever" --> "Why does she not love me for ever and ever, I am being so 'nice' and repressing myself, it is so unfair" (contract made in head by "nice guy" with no one but themselves)
/r/seduction23/05/25 07:53 AM
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Im at the point where he has just done the bootcamp. Its not grabbing me as much as "The Game" did. However, it seems more rooted in reality, and it does not push the "PUA Lifestyle" like the Game did either. The guy writing it seems quite down to earth and relatable (to me), defo some cringe moments at the start that I could relate to.
/r/seduction22/05/25 09:04 PM
1

Find a girl that actually ticks your boxes, instead of trying to turn a girl into something she isn't.
/r/seduction22/05/25 03:42 PM
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Improv class, cooking club, salsa dancing, cocktail classes, singles holidays, walking clubs, I could go on. No one fgives a fuck about your face but you. However if you do give a fuck about it, people will see your lack of confidence over your face and be repulsed by you. Are you going to let your face dictate your sex life.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:46 PM
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Not OP. Just got that book on Kindle, thanks for advising it.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:27 PM
1

Look your as old as you are. You either make changes and improve your life you don't. You either base your life on what other guys say, the negative ones (there are plenty of positive ones, but you only mention the naysayers) and quit like a loser, or you say fuck it, and do what you can from where you are. Your life will be what you make it, nothing more, nothing less.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:27 PM
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Its not a about "nice guy" vs "bad boy", you are creating roles here, cool you can make a persona out of one of them if you want. Why not be inauthentic on the other end of the scale. No its about personality traits. Are you agreeable, lie to avoid conflict vs say what you want and live your reality. Are you a guest in her world or is she a guest in yours. Being willing to walk away vs clinging on like the needy desperate cuck you are. Speaking your mind vs getting angry over covert contracts. B…
/r/seduction21/05/25 07:11 PM
0

No iuts better to work on yourself and your skillset, with multiple women. Rather than obsess over one woman, driving around following her and posting on this sub. I approached a woman and she rejected me. Yeah move on, you can approach now, develop your seduction skills beyond that, with... guess what.... a different fucking woman.
/r/seduction21/05/25 06:51 PM
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If you are at the point you are posting on reddit for a particular girl, then yeah, move on, your in robot mode. Theres a difference between "theres this one girl who my cousin said looked at me with a smile, what do I do bro" and "How can I get more confident approaching".
/r/seduction21/05/25 10:19 AM
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In agreement, I would also say "vague goal". My own goals are, to be confident, to attract women, to keep frame (ie not become a doormat), to embrace abundance and too be willing to walk away if a relationship is not working. Even then I would say they are vague, as I have not defined the actual relationship I want.
/r/seduction20/05/25 01:23 PM
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