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There is no point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:13 AM
2

Guess you're just broken then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:06 AM
1

What is the big difference between software engineer vs engineering management? What will this improve, given both are likely wfh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:18 AM
1

That's a very paranoid take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:19 AM
1

Yeah, that or there's a lot of married dudes in the closet hooking up with one another
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:57 AM
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Men have shit immune systems because of testosterone or so I've read Edit: article for discussion https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5075254/ This seems like something that men can't control across the board, but it's interesting how salient it is for women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:45 AM
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If you already suspect they are up to something, you don't think they're real men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:37 PM
1

That all sounds like a trap to give the woman control over the purse strings and relationship tbqh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:03 AM
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Yep, men are born to serve in women's eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:09 PM
1

The juice isn't worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 05:40 AM
0

tbqh you cut paste some bullshit stats without even providing a citation that I can reference myself or year of the study
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:56 PM
0

I believe that these stats are dated and don't reflect the present condition
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:05 AM
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How long ago were these stats gathered?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:24 PM
3

Stuff you never experienced or could verify firsthand
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:46 PM
1

Trading horses
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:42 PM
1

Really coming at it from a female perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:52 PM
1

It's certainly not too late to "kill off excess men"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:51 PM
1

I'm saying ostracize divorced people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:07 PM
2

Just get rid of your egalitarian mindset, 50% is a lot of people to include in your in-group
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:37 AM
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Great post, will go ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:45 AM
2

Yes, do you really think people are going to change behaviors that make them feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:01 AM
2

It's not about equality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:19 AM
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Doesn't get any better when they exit their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:09 AM
6

Why are your turnoffs relevant to the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:07 AM
0

Zoomers and women don't really understand how the world works and thinks all this shit will be magically automated and hands free
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:44 AM
1

It's a desperate move that only works on paper
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:27 PM
1

Unless the single moms and older women enact some punitive legislation on the men who won't man up and raise their children/marry them no, things exist in an equilibrium and there won't ever be a bottoming out
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:02 PM
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Waste of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:48 AM
2

You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:41 AM
4

They earn more than you because they work harder and are better at their jobs than you are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:30 AM
4

It's because people are stupid animals, it isn't that complicated, and the people who attempt some reflection on this are really just spinning rationalizations for their animal, instinctual behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:08 AM
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Men shouldn't have to wait till their early 30s to date
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:07 AM
1

Man I don't know if 2 and 3 can be ranked decisively like that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:42 PM
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Depends on if they've given up on women or not, they have more incentive than the married man given they have to shoot more shots to get laid, or none if they have entirely given up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:41 PM
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Do men need to know this so they are incentivized to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:37 PM
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The standards aren't getting ever higher, at some point you will just have to settle on what level of effort you're comfortable with expending and the consequences of that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:47 PM
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What do they have to offer other than fuckability? If there is something else, then they would be valued for that quality by most men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:45 PM
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>Their sperm is also old and defective. Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 12:36 PM
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Why assume the worst out of people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:02 PM
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Society still wants you to compete and spend money, they just want the losers to suck it up and keep quiet, but less competition does not benefit women or society
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 06:29 PM
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Children and teens shouldn't be taken seriously until they have fully committed to supporting themselves No one is looking out for you aside from your parents, and that only if you're lucky, there is no one to point fingers to and cry because they didn't take care of you and let you fall through the cracks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:50 PM
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Going for a night walk
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 05:48 PM
0

Adults aren't to blame, get a fucking job and work for a few years, you'll find out no one is responsible for you but you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:37 PM
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Parents also basically feed their children advice that solves or compensates for went wrong in their own lives, not what is best for their children's lives
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 09:36 AM
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Labor leftism has been dead for half a century or more
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 09:16 AM
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Yeah the modern day red pill stuff really blew that the fuck out
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 03:13 AM
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They had a parallel system of advantage and privilege that they still have today
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 02:45 AM
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Yes, people often confirm their own biases
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 02:44 AM
1

Why the same copy-pasted responses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 02:07 AM
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Men are not to be cared for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:59 AM
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You'd have to spend time with them, time is the most precious resource you have
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:53 AM
1

Neither, just die alone and childless
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:52 AM
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Men must always accommodate women, men are always wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 12:16 AM
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It's funny how you start wildly speculating when contradicted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 12:06 AM
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We should monitor men to make sure they are active in society, under threat of taking away their seat at whatever company they work for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 04:17 PM
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The ratio at birth is 1.05:1 males to females
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 04:16 PM
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I sure as shit would have done something else with my life if I knew women were off the table How my choices (in career, etc.) are going to impact my value as a partner has always weighed on my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 04:13 PM
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Not only is there a shortage of marriage material men, there isn't a pipeline and it'll be even worse for the younger women and girls of today when they start desiring marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:12 PM
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Most people here are coasties, most men don't have child support payments, and most women do not have children. You are making your personal experience global
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:32 PM
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Yeah you are damned if you do damned if you don't, deal with it Most men just don't give a fuck about single mothers until they get saddled with their mistakes, through taxes or dating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:17 PM
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What exactly are women's marriage rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:08 PM
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Have sex incel
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 02:51 PM
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Time to slash entitlements and make it happen
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:06 PM
2

Maybe you just didn't take those women off the pedestal. They are revealing themselves to be low class by their preferences, regardless of where they started out in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:10 AM
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Survivorship bias
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:03 AM
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They're also wise to women and their bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 02:00 AM
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Yep. We got rid of the most useless women just a couple months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:15 PM
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Thanks for caring by making my life a living hell after I put in all that work to be a good provider and father
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:10 PM
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Bullshit rationalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:02 PM
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Yeah, that's the tax, since men will be doing all the work to run the company that pays for those jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:51 PM
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Sure, but that will take away from other things men do. Women just assume men are lazy or something, most have their thing going on and try to be as good at it as possible, and that takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:41 PM
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If we're talking individual sex acts, it might be true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 12:46 AM
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Completely retarded, the world existed before you or I were born If you lie about your n count, you are just a moral weakling
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:13 AM
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Dead eyes
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/20 08:38 AM
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If the nuclear family is not sustainable, what is? Single mothers aren't sustainable in the long term, but that's what the alternative is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:09 AM
1

Are you black?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:41 AM
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Why do you care so much about society? You are not helping anything, except to increase the proportion of people in this world who are parasitic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:56 PM
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There's more dignity in helping your family, and they'll probably show more appreciation to you You don't owe anything to anyone unrelated to you, single mothers should starve and suffer for their mistakes or even their bad luck, just as you suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:40 PM
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You can never have too much money, and instead of money, you could spend your time (and money) on them giving them better experiences and so making them more well-rounded people who are more likely to reproduce You might just have a fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 05:10 PM
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It's also on you, you think that you should not suffer any judgement or consequences, including losing out on partners you otherwise find attractive Honesty would allow those people to make their own decisions, you don't want that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:48 PM
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You are not going to convince the billions of people in this world to change the way they think, it isn't just one group you can point a finger at
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:47 PM
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The sociosexual people may want those who are more restricted, and simply lie about their preferences as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:46 PM
1

Why not provide for your actual family then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:40 PM
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I'm not going to date a woman for 3 months, I'll assume she is fucking some other guy and is using me for the dinner dates and attention
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:39 PM
1

Not my thing, I don't watch TV
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:58 AM
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That's an entire other discussion People who watch TV are boring, people who talk about things they watched on TV are boring loudmouths
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:54 AM
1

Hope it works out for them then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:53 AM
1

Just don't watch TV
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:51 AM
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Yeah, just like a 30 year virgin old man has baggage, their virginity is baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:50 AM
1

Straight up okay with the starvation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:26 AM
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I too am one of these animals, and there's no need to live like a hermit, these beliefs don't necessarily mean that is the way one must live their life I almost feel like you are offended about the lack of consistency in thought and action, or that I as a male could have an ulterior motive or hidden belief, but I'm just reflecting what I see in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:49 PM
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The same individual is capable of great evil and good, why would you stick around and let them do the evil to you? Read the signs, what is there to gain in placing trust in a fickle and stupid creature?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 04:40 AM
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Women are in the negotiation/threats phase with men after this all blew up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:35 PM
1

This would not serve women's interests, women need dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:41 PM
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Good luck with your life, you don't have a damn clue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:15 AM
1

I've almost never taken advantage of it though, I've actively rejected most opportunities I've had for relationships I've been working on pulling myself out of the poverty I was born into mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:14 AM
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I'm attractive genetically in the physical sense, 6' tall and handsome face. Been considered good looking but awkward by many women. Good bone structure Autist af though and I went the beta route
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:11 AM
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Thing is you won't actually notice these tactics when someone actually dangerous (ie who has bad intentions and is willing and able to pump and dump you) when they come up That's just not how life works, the only people who will be obvious about it are likely hurt, half-hearted nerds
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:57 PM
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It's too bad you didn't inherit my genes, I'm not putting good use to them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:51 PM
1

Maybe, most people have enough experience including bad experience to lose their idealism I seem to read exasperated women looking for this sort of idealism when they are ready to settle as it signals commitment, but it's bad timing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:43 PM
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Why do women still think the sort of idealistic romantic love is even on the table when they try to find men in their 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 09:01 AM
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It's already stuck, doing that is getting it unstuck, dunno how that is supposed to make you accept the inevitability of being betrayed though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:52 AM
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Kinda yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:32 AM
1

You should continue to treat men as disposable until you yourself have to confront disposability, either by way of finding a man who can treat you so or until you age out Then you'll know true vulnerability and will finally have found yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:10 AM
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Women don't have that kind of consciousness, they are more present (no intention to give that positive connotations) and rarely think far into the future or past
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:05 AM
0

No one cares about your issues
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:10 PM
0

I think I have a fat single mother coworker interested in me and she talks about dieting as if that would get a man's attention, particularly an educated man that already has shown that he can practice delayed gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:10 PM
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Women have less opportunities due to less competence, and that's just not fair
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 08:50 PM
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Better single and childless than a single mother, for real though
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 07:45 AM
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Because they see it as a burden and something they have to do, they see themselves as a victim of society's beauty standards and want both the benefits that they've recognized and sympathy for any sort of work or for putting up with anything they find disagreeable that comes with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:51 PM
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Always the just-so stories with you, why bend yourself to fit into narratives that have no common base anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 05:21 PM
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Lol being very flexible, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:03 AM
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He's has a STEM degree and job
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:02 AM
1

Based on posting history
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:08 AM
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YOU personally want the traditional relationship except the man has no power, the man still has to do all the traditional things that YOU want you just don't want to be beholden to him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:19 PM
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We have FDS saying starting out with coffee dates are only offered up by low value men when it is a pretty common bit of advice in the wider bluepill dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:47 AM
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send bob
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:15 PM
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Sounds like when we talk about the benefits of marriage, women are compartmentalizing and not factoring the social status upgrade with the other drawbacks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 02:57 PM
1

What? Earning that kind of money? And what do you mean by "programmed"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:22 AM
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tbh I think I'd be fine with a crippled by debt sort of chick My personality is not the best and I have some cleaning up to do but I was pretty fortunate in terms of face and height... In the mean time I've focused on education and making money (something I did not have to start with), if I had to choose between kinda a drag financially but childless vs fully self-supportive but a single mother, I'd choose the fiscally insolvent girl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 07:03 AM
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Poorer in a strictly monetary sense, but likely with a richer life To spend so little is to be a miser
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:56 AM
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Yes. That phenomenon needs to be checked by true natural selection, but we don't allow that in our welfare state societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 01:51 AM
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Children are the future though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 01:39 AM
1

My OP relates the SMP to the marketplace for jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 01:38 AM
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This is due to the company operating in a high-pressure capitalist society If we lived in a society which was a bit more relaxed and family oriented from top to bottom this wouldn't be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 01:34 AM
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Butterface often overvalue themselves Imagine getting married to a butterface and suddenly she stops taking care of herself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:14 AM
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Lol, no deets
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:07 AM
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Not my monkey not my circus
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 10:36 PM
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You must be the type to believe everything they read given that is the commonly given number I do wageslave myself, I like what I do and I earn good money doing it. I do have nice things and they mitigate the stress of work, but I don't think everyone could do what I do Putting in 60-100h a week working or otherwise advancing your career is not for everybody and I would hesitate to say it improves your QoL...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:21 PM
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A lot of women do try
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:59 PM
1

You sound young
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:40 PM
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How someone looks has nothing to do with whether their marriage will be a dumpster fire, plenty of good looking people get involved in dumpster fire marriages and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 10:32 PM
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Empathy is for sure a starting point The way modern women think of and treat men is dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 10:13 PM
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There is more complexity involved, as you very well could be a decent looking guy but fall through the cracks because you are not going with the crowd for whatever reason In this case it isn't about sex and romance, it is about reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:18 PM
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Yes, that is more or less how I framed my explanation, otherwise they would be a true slob
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:16 PM
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I wish women would actually have empathy for the guys that fall through the cracks and wanted to be good husbands and fathers But I can't expect others to not be wrapped up in their own lives, and it's too much to expect the guy who built himself up to then take the scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:18 PM
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Your reading comprehension is dogshit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:16 PM
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How long do you want to keep going I don't think what I responded with could even be characterized as life advice Move on dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:06 PM
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All I have to go off is what you post, if it doesn't reflect your thoughts or beliefs, look into communicating and writing better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:53 PM
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In order for you to get the amount of validation you want you have to be seen as a winner and superior to others Not everyone sees things in terms of winners and losers, it's more of an ego thing and often times creates more strife than is good for the larger group This is prob an area where I also like to dominate others but I don't seek or revel in their extinction lol, there is always another chance at least in healthy competitions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:38 PM
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Your last paragraph kinda trailed off for me Personally I think we have some major psychological differences, social validation seems to be really important for you, knowing myself I have less need for it and can get it as a product of the few areas I choose to concentrate in
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:32 PM
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Sure, I think that that was more or less a red herring, you don't seem to be able to generalize your idea in all cases is what I'm saying If you don't care, why argue at all other than validation that your narrow view is right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:27 PM
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In what way am I biased? Biased toward noticing flaws in your reasoning? I know that we don't really put too much weight in logic and rather in generalizations and being flippant about biases in PPD, just pointing out in this case you are wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:22 PM
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Why? You've lived half of your life alone, why settle for someone who didn't think you were good enough and evidently has so little to offer themselves? Loneliness is better than a bad deal, and if your whole life had been lonely up to that point and you've managed, why would you cave in your 40s?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:15 PM
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Show me some stats, I don't know what kind of work you guys do but toward the ends of projects even well put together guys come out haggard, tired, with a few additional grays, fitness and hygiene can easily go out the window at least temporarily What this tells me is don't work so much harder than the average to the point that you have to make sacrifices elsewhere if you don't own your own business, because you'll come off as just a lazy slob and your efforts will go unrecognized by the masses …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:50 PM
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Depends on the man, to the insecure man insecure women can be endearing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:46 PM
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Perhaps you are just engaging in attribution bias Not sure where you're getting your data from, if it is anecdotal I'll assume you made a judgement without really have a 360 degree view of each individual in question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:43 PM
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What is the point of waiting that long, you can't even have a kid to lock the guy down Why would I love and marry a lazy leech who came into my life in its twilight years to spend my money and never give me anything (like a child) for the trouble?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:37 PM
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That's obviously not true though - there are plenty of people who are so focused on their education or job who sacrifice fashion, hygiene to keep working through a problem lol I'd hope it was a temporary thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:35 PM
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It's neither really, it's about who is and is not the bottleneck in reproduction Men have an unpaired X, those who are truly genetically unfit die early or are hampered for life, while women both can mask this and their inherent value as incubators give them more of a free pass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:32 PM
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I probably wouldn't want a LTR with one, but they likely wouldn't with me either
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:35 PM
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Yeah, I am looking at it from a subjective point of view...I assume if your energy is directed toward a particular intention you're more likely to achieve or get it Otherwise things just happen randomly, the world makes no sense, and there is no place for the mind at all A lot of women (maybe you are just special, not like, better than those other girls) through their actions don't necessarily put as high a priority on educational achievement or even income as they tend to say. Nerds aren't gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:38 PM
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Those whose primary concern is sex and getting it will likely form themselves toward achieving that goal, I am not going to argue the specifics of whether guys buying Belle Delphine bathwater are getting laid more as that is kinda moot Fact is most people who follow the rules and for example earn higher degrees are getting less sex and having less kids than average A lot of men and women who think they wouldn't fall for a sexy loser are kidding themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:32 PM
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See my edit, who cares really? I don't think that those men were being duped or anything The outcome is that there is less money to go around for the mediocre women who are these guys' match if dudes are spending it on streamers
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:27 PM
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Men who think with the head between their legs are getting more sex, thinking with your bigger head is not sexy and women in this day and age run on sexy until shit hits the skids I don't follow streamers but all women can be manipulators, whether they are putting out the good girl persona or are Belle Delphine. Just because a woman believes she is good and will put a man through an emotional and financial wringer because of it does not mean she is in fact good for that man. Fact is the thots ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:24 PM
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Why the fuck would a man want intrigue from the woman in his life? That is the last fucking thing I want
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:19 PM
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Women aren't arguing men work harder and push the needle forward more often than not...That is a beta strategy that works in a "patriarchal" society in which impressing women is not as important as say impressing your manager or whoever you report to in the male dominance hierarchy...They are arguing for superfluous traits that women themselves find attractive I think women conflate natural selection with sexual selection, there is nothing moral about women's sexual selection (though they will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:10 PM
14

Women want what is best for them and by hook or by crook will get it, it has nothing to do with fairness, morality, or any other bullshit they try and feed you with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:06 PM
1

Sure, don't fuck those men, but don't make them pay for women's children either. We need a new gilded age, not socialism What makes a man "genetically unfit"? If he is unfit, he'd hardly rise in the ranks of male social dominance hierarchies It isn't that he is unfit generally, it's about him not putting effort into the sexually selected traits that turn women off that are icing on the cake (and have the potential to lead to Fisherian runaway) as far as nature is concerned Female mate selection …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:04 PM
37

Women run a sexual cartel, the scarcity is artificial This is why American women fight against porn and prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:25 PM
1

I really dislike these maneuvers to save face and the emphasis on "attitude" women have, it is fundamentally dishonest and inherently limited as those above her will instantly recognize
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:01 PM
-1

What did you do to make him leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:32 PM
6

As far as women are concerned this is just natural selection and par for the course, there is no empathy to be had for men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:42 PM
15

Essentially women are totally okay with the majority of men being sexless slaves You expect these men to labor without any sort of incentive, except the emptiness of consumerism you're suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 03:51 PM
6

Yeah I've initiated a breakup and either she flies into a rage or bursts into tears and it goes through a few rounds before I am finally rid of her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 07:36 PM
2

Classic hamstering
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:18 AM
1

Charisma among men or women? They don't always coincide
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:14 AM
1

How do men get the advantage later on? Whatever imagined advantaged is tamped down by marriage, in which there is a severe penalty for leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:13 AM
1

Dating and domestic problems my family have had in the past that as a child I didn't understand but reflecting on as an adult I do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:23 AM
0

You want to have your cake and eat it too, and you think men will always be available and not take advantage of the shift in demand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:42 AM
5

It's a distraction more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:11 AM
1

Could be a male/female difference My ex said she didn't need sex but got used to getting fucked and wanted it more actively during our on/off phases Sex is intimate, it confirms the masculine desire for ownership when women submit to our sexual urges because they love us and want to keep us happy, I'm way more in the mood for cuddling when my cum is dribbling out of my girl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:10 AM
2

I've never wanted anal, and have had the opportunity presented to me multiple times and passed it up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:00 AM
2

You probably do lack impulse control if you are sleeping with 40 women in 2 years I have friends who brag about their lays similarly and how they're so good looking and whenever we get a look at these women there is usually some flaw that most would consider a dealbreaker for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:58 AM
1

People overestimate how much skill is involved in sex IMO All you need to be a good lay is cardiovascular fitness, be attentive to your partners reactions, and knowing when to shock and surprise I am not high n and have trouble finding mutual partners (often because of mental problems), but the partners I've had have been satisfied, sex is intuitive and doesn't require much skill (at least outside of ONS where there is a really short time frame to learn, which is probably why it is dissatisfying…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:56 AM
1

I'd prefer less experience but open to having sex with me I've been with virgins and it was a nightmare tbh, and I've been with girls who claimed to be inexperienced and did some weird stuff in bed but put in a lot of effort and ended up being really sexually attentive and satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:48 AM
3

I think a lot of women here lie or bend the truth for the sake of winning the argument This occurs to greater and lesser degrees, we have posters here who really talked up their husbands, inexplicably branchswung to another guy, and apparently are single now and loving every minute of it It's just one of those things, women put a lot of effort into saving face
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:45 AM
1

29 Not seeing a lot of new relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:18 AM
8

No, it's naive on your part to think that men would, and it would be naive on the man's part to engage
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:28 AM
2

Okay, what's your interest in this as a 3rd party?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:01 AM
3

Fuck off dude, I was trolling and she chose to take the bait
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 12:00 AM
4

Lots of chicks don't have the time for that organic shit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:41 PM
3

That is projection and isn't necessarily true, that is more something that many men learn for their own sake as that is the way women treat men If you couldn't bag a man young, you can't afford to be neurotic and misandrist if you still intend to find one post-wall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:40 PM
5

Where the fuck did you pull this out from, fucking freak
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:39 PM
4

It's been a year since I last saw her but this incident happened almost 3 years ago and we have more or less been FWBs/she's tried to repair things and failed. Her life is a mess and not enviable, I almost feel bad as her situation is complex but she really should have known better and will have something to think about next time I am not 100% happy being single but that is largely physiological I think, I enjoy having the time to myself again, without drama. That's generally what I remind mysel…
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:37 PM
4

I was close, the day it blew up was the day we went to look at engagement rings lol, we had also tripped on acid the day before and I wasn't about to buy an engagement ring in that state That night I get texts from an even bigger simp than I whining about having spent money on her taking her on a vacation...This was after she gave me hell for not buying an engagement ring right then and there...
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:23 PM
1

I really prefer to immerse myself in work, I find it keeps my mind off of intrusive thoughts It is satisfying to overcome the challenges, I find that worthwhile for its own sake, I don't need anyone to prod me
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:16 PM
1

I can't relate, my sex drive is strong despite more or less suppressing it, I want to have children of my own but my rational mind tells me it just isn't in the cards or really worth it I'm not a terrible looking guy but I'm pretty neurotic and grew up in poverty, so I've hyperfocused on schooling and work and I like to think I take an objective view of things. I've also been burned and seen other men go through worse, I've been pretty solitary and can keep myself entertained, all in all it is a…
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:13 PM
6

This Been burned once, but was attentive enough to drop it before it got too hot
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:07 PM
7

Get off MGTOW and go experience it then. I think it is worthwhile to have that experience, if you don't you are going to really just double over on yourself in anxiety, neuroticism, and overthinking.
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 10:05 PM
2

Not seeing a lot of relationships, the ones I do see keep their shit wrapped up tight though there is some spillage I see a ton of simps and pussywhipped men too, and women who are partnered but still willing to flex their sexual power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:00 PM
3

But she doesn't want those men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:56 PM
2

Taking anything anyone says at face value like this is incredibly foolish
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:55 PM
2

It's only superficiality when a man applies standards and conditions to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:55 PM
3

Maybe you just aren't lovable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:53 PM
7

Just the way it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:53 PM
1

Is that you? If so, did you really think you'd get better than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:49 PM
3

Then why argue and not just go your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:45 PM
4

You don't really understand the men who would potentially be willing to commit to a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:43 PM
2

Then aren't we better off just calling the whole thing off and avoiding relationships altogether? You can't have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:42 PM
2

Don't bombard me now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:39 PM
1

Not everyone believes we live in a patriarchal society. That was largely bullshit revisionist history tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:37 PM
1

No one is or should be given a job
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:53 PM
1

Women don’t want to have sex with low value men, that doesn’t mean that women don’t want low value men around entirely, every age has its slaves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:53 PM
2

Expose women and their children to the brutal reality of nature just as men are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:46 PM
0

It shouldn’t be regulated, but the consequences of the knowledge should take full effect, which will ultimately mean eroding of women’s soft privileges
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:40 PM
6

Agree Every single kid is getting a test without the mother’s knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:21 PM
9

Yeah that’s woman logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:18 PM
6

Most men complaining don’t have the options though so it isn’t a question of fairness but then becomes an argument in which women flaunt their sexual power and the moral goal posts shift
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:17 PM
5

Some women particularly in the pillosphere have tried to drop the pretenses and embrace the truth though But that isn’t ideal either, I don’t know if most men could accept women who are openly hypergamous, women kinda are forced to be dishonest or conceal the whole of their preferences to get the best outcome they can That’s not to excuse women, that this is their true nature is reason enough to drop all empathy IMO, and I do believe in a world absent of empathy for women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:29 PM
16

Yeah, Betas were never supposed to know tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:25 PM
6

Women want good men aka slaves In reality women are likely fully complicit in slavery under all its guises in all ages
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:23 PM
2

Last time I visited PPD she had left her husband and had more or less branchswung by her own admission, and now she seems to be single Smurf is a long time poster who once was very much bluepilled, it's amusing to see her story unfold and capitulate all the concepts and scenarios she once argued against
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:36 AM
1

Sure, hopefully they are not playing chicken You can probably label this as bitterness, but I think men sooner or later grow out of desiring relationships with women as well, if not desiring sex - In fact I think a good chunk of men may be romantics first, cynics next, finally to be led astray by their hormones and coerced into commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:31 AM
0

This
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:44 AM
3

Such a quick reply, you were just waiting to hear that weren't you? No one is going to rescue you if you misspend your life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:27 AM
3

Yeah it's false, you're just a hole and an incubator at the end of the day, and that's what all us men actually think deep down inside lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:25 AM
1

Depends on what standard of living she wants, I theoretically could but it would be a low quality of life I have no interest in a 40 yo woman just for her own sake
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:29 AM
1

6' I prefer between 5'0" and 5'6"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:24 AM
2

I want children You can't get your fertility back
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:27 AM
1

Women lack 'tegrity, their minds are fragmented by their very nature
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:41 PM
3

There are men like this but they are exceptionally rare and by buying into what is more or less a middle class value system end up being more monogamous and less a social threat than not I also see no antagonism in the examples I'd pick out IRL, they are part of the same social class after all and real world politics doesn't break across neat lines, in fact I think you are projecting this sense of a just world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 01:07 PM
1

That's the burden women have to bear and why their minds are fragmented
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 01:00 PM
1

I think I've discussed this a little bit with a Russian friend of mine, Russian law is slightly more in men's favor if there are no children involved I believe was the takeaway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:14 PM
2

Part of it too is that men do not age as fast physically as women, due to having for example thicker skin, more collagen, less proportion of body fat I think if you take your 31 yo and let him use as many products as you likely use to maintain a youthful appearance you'd think him to look 25 compared to other males
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:07 PM
1

Being "nice" or polite is expected of you at least in the middle class Being "nice" is so common that it verges on pathological because it is in fact beneficial for some people to be that way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:03 PM
7

IT is corporate
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 01:43 PM
3

It's not a conscious thought, I wouldn't deny it is an impulse or drive as I find so many women attractive, but my conscious thoughts are more monogamous The reason for that is not wanting drama or to split my income among multiple women, though that isn't a real danger as it is the taxpayer's who are funding the kids from those sorts of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:20 AM
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I grew up pretty poor and my life was very chaotic, I was the product of a teen pregnancy and wanted to make sure I was stable before I started a family, I've had extremely conservative views on family and sex since puberty more or less I changed my life up to pursue a more lucrative career so that I could provide for a family and be more attractive as a partner but it is looking like that was a bad idea as men aren't valued in that way anymore, or I'll be forced to eat shit anyway if I market m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 01:17 AM
3

This, being well-fucked leads to amnesia as far as manipulation, obvious lies, gaslighting, etc. are concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:45 AM
1

It depends, it might not help you as a man in your 20s sowing your seed to help another guy get laid But if you are a committed father and you don't intend on having many illegitimate children or multiple wives (and even if so) you do stand to gain through other men partnering up, it more or less validates the stable strategy by providing more stable men for your daughters and so on, and all of your children can benefit from a cohesive society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:23 PM
1

Yeah I don't know how many ppl on this sub have actually gone through abandonment when they needed someone most (say due to circumstances your life is in danger if this person abandons you or you are facing a much bleaker future for reasons) I've done this to someone and feel guilty about it, but our relationship was damaged
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:38 AM
5

You might just have to deal with non-monogamy, because you are attracted to non-monogamous men There are men who restrain themselves and don't exploit every possible option, but you seem to want to see him exercising his options (you say as much yourself, you acknowledge the RP frame) The best you can settle for is an uneasy truce given you don't want to play more conservative social games
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:27 AM
1

Sometimes the majority is wrong, or conditions change, and all you are left with is the subjective In fact, elements of experience can only be subjective, and much of what we call objective is really more or less consensus reality with nothing really rock solid underneath it...You'd have to be a progressive to believe otherwise, because we've seen through history what was once considered absolute and objective come under scrutiny and derision and besides that ideological commitment there is no r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:22 AM
1

Yeah, the idea that applying some kind of universal standard based on an imagined average will net you the best outcome is not so rational when you begin to factor in your personal situation, milieu, and experiences, there is no reason to believe that what is beneficial for the average (which can be an artifact and non-existent) will be beneficial for you, RP adopts a Bayesian approach No one has time for airtight deductive proofs, let alone an approach based on averages (for all we know, the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:12 AM
1

Every IT person is a corporate fairy tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:12 PM
2

Not to say I haven't seen it, but where I have it is usually working class men who want a taste of hot mess pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 07:02 PM
1

I think women like men like this, because they are more predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:34 AM
2

Very few men, even if beta, would raise another man's children
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 02:58 AM
1

Who cares? My sex drive isn't going away whether I'm MGTOW or not unless I take certain pills or get a surgery Your authentic self includes resentment and the struggles you have overcoming those things that have a negative impact on your life as far as I am concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:37 PM
1

It's not really a more or less thing, it is just a more thing, thinking that women will let men slide on the earning measure is outside reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:31 PM
1

If you live alone you can't help but take up and eventually become competent at domestic things College bitch drivel
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:49 AM
0

Who cares about the social situation, they're trying to do an arbitrage here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:29 AM
1

Lol, I just know that THIS PARTICULAR PERSON is easily triggered
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:18 AM
1

I think there is something about reading people's uncensored and unfiltered opinions that short circuits some women's brains We get the speaking for all women as a group, the attempts at browbeating men they've never even met face to face, the conjuring of strawmen, and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:15 AM
3

I don't want to speculate
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:07 AM
3

Men are better off not dating, marrying, or pursuing neurotic and obsessive women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:02 AM
1

We and us but there are only two people talking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:46 AM
1

I am too nihilistic for any sort of strongly held principles, I may not even have kids, if I do it will happen on my terms as close as I can get it and if not there are other things I can do with my life You and all women are just not that special, it is 100% the male sex drive that drives men to you and many men come to regret their desires, not because you are a deserving or interesting person in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:37 AM
1

I've found that views hardly matter when it comes to dating in the real world Regardless of who you are or what you have, you are not as special as you think you are, I really couldn't care less whether you would date someone like me besides I would love it if we lived in an ideal world, but we don't, if you can't deal with people having differing opinions you should probably not trigger yourself by reading them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:31 AM
3

I mean, I've had knives pulled out on me, been attacked while driving, and hit with a metal coat hanger by an ex Sometimes you need to put a bitch in her place
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:14 AM
1

Using yous and wes for decisions that never were really made, not by any individual
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:05 AM
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You've got really bad English It's some weasel shit to bring up that you're looking for a relationship, sleep with someone, then backpedal and claim that she never really asked if you wanted a relationship with her Not saying it doesn't happen, just that you aren't admitting to it and playing it off like it is not using someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:04 AM
1

Don't get emotional about Internet comments As I said, from a moral perspective I am for marriage and having children within marriage, but given the culture around marriage and relationships I'm not going to make it easy or not be choosey if I have the options particularly when I see what women do in marriage and after experiencing a youth of women playing their game to the hilt And from my perspective, getting the kid before marriage is ideal, the kid will understand (and if not, deal with it k…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:53 AM
1

This plays into women's hand too much, often women will try to force a thing with a guy who doesn't really want it falsely believing herself to be a man's equal, using a baby to force a guy's hand More power to you if you manage to do it right and convince a guy to marry you prior to having children, I'm all for it from the moral standpoint, I just don't think it is a good decision from the perspective of a man's self-interest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:38 AM
1

And you being both a blue pill beta slacker don't realize how much men put into being a provider or all the shit the average man puts up with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:14 AM
3

Corporations make the few men left handhold the women or outright do their work for them, so what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:12 AM
1

And the pendulum has swung so in favor of the married woman, who can eviscerate her husband, that many men are giving up on or at least putting off marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:06 AM
1

Yes, chaining men legally to their wives is what marriage was and is all about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:53 AM
1

I think you make the mistake of thinking men are prosocial enough to care and start some kind of gay movement about it The majority of people have children out of wedlock or get involved in some kind of "shotgun wedding" situation These are just observations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:52 AM
1

As far as women are concerned there are no low value women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:50 AM
1

This doesn't mean they have to work all that hard to get it necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 03:33 PM
2

Women are upset if the men they like aren't high up in the hierarchy though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:46 AM
2

Even better, there is a legal grace period with the foreign woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 12:34 AM
2

Everyone had the same strategy and it doesn’t work if everyone else adopts it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 06:22 PM
1

This
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:48 PM
3

All women choose #1 because you don’t get #2 without some scars and no one can see these circumatances and intangibles which would otherwise redeem him
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:47 PM
2

While it is unthinkable to women, I believe there will either be a total collapse of society, or a culling or new callousness unseen since the gilded age
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:39 PM
8

High betas making six figures (off the coasts, maybe 150-200k for those on) don’t have to settle for single moms tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:38 PM
3

Nearing 30 and assuming most women at this age are seriously interested in finding a husband at this age, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:36 PM
1

I am but it is for completely personal reasons, has nothing to do with MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 03:41 AM
2

I agree, and I would marry solely for the sake of children if that is what it takes, but absent children I would not marry I don't think you can trust anyone not to take advantage of a power asymmetry in any kind of relationship, there are no protections for the husband either IRL, there are a whole lot of "shotgun weddings" happening, most pregnancies aren't planned, and given how disadvantageous marriage is to men I can see plenty opting out even in the case of a pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:38 PM
1

Yeah, it is a huge problem that there is a power asymmetry, marriage just isn't a good deal and you have to be a fool to get married I wouldn't trust ANYONE to not leverage a power asymmetry in ANY kind of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:35 PM
1

Yeah, up to a point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:33 PM
1

Long term, women are worse off being single Women are not as useful as men, simply because they rely on their sexual value which begins to dissipate in their 30s and accelerates in their 40s, while men maintain a level of value that they developed or is inherent in them being more physically capable into at least their 60s If as a woman you spent your life relying on your beauty and male thirst to get by (and honestly, most women do to greater or lesser degrees), you are going to find you are le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:31 PM
1

Men also don't have as much need for emotional support, not to say that their need is 0
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:25 PM
1

Believing that society wasn't ready means you buy into the myth of progress, a hallmark of stupidity. Society doesn't progress, things happen which are good for some personalities and life circumstances and bad for others, things reach an equilibrium point under those sets of circumstances and other effects become more prominent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:08 PM
2

Women would rather that men be thirsty enough to go for the fat chick, that would give a lot of posters here a chance tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:26 PM
0

Lol is terming it filmed prostitution supposed to make us recoil in horror?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:25 PM
1

No major religion is advocating for casual sex relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:13 PM
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Sometimes that is the point, jack off and clear your mind so you can focus on other things, women don't deserve the attention Fuck your cult of masculinity btw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:07 PM
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Ban male masturbation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:01 PM
1

Thought you had a husband and were old af, how do you have any knowledge of what is apparently a recent trend, except what you could imagine?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:15 AM
1

Many women you meet in day to day life don't provide more than fleeting happiness either, and a whole lot of pain Shouldn't you be happy that these men are keeping to themselves and not bothering women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:06 AM
1

Lol oh you're just trying to help us now! Gtfo with your concern trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:01 AM
1

Obesity, ugly women Assuming the average man who mostly watches vanilla porn, if men have no issues with ED when watching porn, but do with their partners, their partners just aren't that appealing no matter what they argue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:00 AM
1

Maybe you just aren't that attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:43 AM
1

Are they marrying higher tier men though? Do those men actually want to marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:36 AM
10

Stop cherrypicking. I'm not looking at this from a 1st person perspective, I'm looking at it from a 3rd person perspective. I don't care about your feelings or your views on sexual ethics or morality. I am merely pointing out that people follow incentives, if we happen to be at a time and place where men are not really incentivized to become good fathers or hold out for fatherhood (because they have few prospects until their 30s), then many will simply give up even if they did have the potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:20 AM
1

There have always been 24h in a day Men likely have been more masculine in the past given the physical nature of work. Were men just not stylish enough for women? What evolutionary incentive is there for women to find what is basically a metrosexual man attractive? Women see these things through a lens of progress, but there is no progress, there is really only the swing of the pendulum or turning of the wheel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:48 AM
1

Why is it good to be thirsty? It is distracting and can harm you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:38 AM
4

Lol, what if he comes to expect this and age chips away at this supposed superiority you feel over these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:34 AM
4

How is your marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:26 AM
4

Men are fighting an uphill battle to win all that. The world beats some down, perhaps there are men who could be successful but given the social changes don't have the trickle of validation they need to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:14 AM
24

If you're not getting anything, what incentive do you have to tryhard? Even guys who could get something if they did (and may have say 50 years back, in a more cohesive and socially conservative society) are just not going to get enough feedback that spurs them to man up. You can't expect men to be sexless up to 30 yo and then settle into a dissatisfying marriage, enough will see that that's hardly worth it and just give up, which is what we're seeing and is to women's collective detriment to an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:06 AM
3

A man can be parted from his money - so he is not respected for it, and always has to be on guard. In the current legal regime, a man is in a critically weak position when it comes to divorce, and if a man is attractive enough where that is not a threat why would he marry? He obviously can get what he's after without the commitment The only world in which this works is if a woman dupes a man. She doesn't even need to do so consciously, many women instinctually follow a strategy of serial monogam…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:55 PM
2

Well we all know that women would stand to lose if they didn't lie like that, so they are going to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:39 PM
1

What exactly is a quality man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 11:46 PM
0

I think it is pretty normal to divulge history
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:56 PM
1

It is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:40 PM
1

What's left for the older women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:37 PM
1

tbh I've put effort into making women feel special and a good amount of the time it totally went over their heads unless it was something totally basic I did for them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:11 AM
0

TBH Indian and Paki men are pretty terrible, physically abusive
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 07:39 PM
3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus And women are just as vulnerable btw
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:53 PM
2

You are right but we can overcome most emotional abuse as well. I know my ex attempted this sort of emotional abuse but I was wise to it and kicked her to the curb (more like converted to FWB for a few years, though she'd break down when I said it was like that after she did what she did) when she started trying to pull some shit. Now I've cut ties with her for good and have little interest in jumping into another relationship with the same bullshit, it's that sort of experience that turns you o…
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 01:03 AM
1

After reading through replies, for me women would need to bring: 1) fertility - no point to a LTR without children 2) fidelity 3) frequent sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:08 AM
1

What is the measure of value, given your OP implies that there are fewer valuable men than there are valuable women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:07 AM
-1

Women will cheat on their Alpha partners simply to get their attention, women don't always just cheat in order to branch swing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 02:21 AM
1

Why would MGTOW post about that shit on /r/MGTOW ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 09:59 PM
1

I think this is just one of the many topics where women would prefer to not admit their preference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:08 PM
1

It can take years to get to that level, and there is a lot of trade and sacrifice along the way - that is time that is lost, and it isn't a PRESENT tradeoff - it was a decision made long ago that may not be panning out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 01:46 PM
1

Sure, but you are saying the tradeoff was worthwhile - how could you possibly know that, not knowing how that person could have been if their time and energy were spent elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 01:41 PM
1

You can't just quit and get that time and youth back. Same for men (I would have had a much more fun life if I didn't work so hard to the point of hurting my health, but I wanted to be sure that if I had a family we would not be poor like I was), but at least it is expected of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 01:32 PM
1

Women, by giving birth and being desired by men, don't invest the same amount of time in their white collar careers. The expectations for women are much lower. Young women who think all manual labor is going to disappear and are making life plans around that idea are morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:38 AM
1

First it's foolhardiness and testosterone, then it is just embracing death and disposability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:29 AM
0

Good point, plenty of men starfish too tbh but there is just naturally a little more oomph, the female average is way below the male average
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:14 AM
2

I'm getting up in my years and I don't really think I could love a woman like I would if we met while we were younger As far as I'm concerned, and I do want a family, any woman who enters into my life at this point is kinda just a finish line girl
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 07:43 AM
1

I work on myself, find someone and sweep them off their feet, have a crazy and intense relationship that eventually blows up and sucks the life out of me and reenter the building phase
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 11:00 PM
1

We are vulnerable to superstimuli (ie anime, porn, Tinder, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 09:50 PM
2

Lowered standards would be easier to come by if one restricted themselves sexually to only those whom they could have a LTR with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:34 PM
1

Posters on FDS likely won't be having kids or getting in relationships with their attitudes, probably don't represent the majority of women Pointless to even argue
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 08:33 AM
4

>The greatest tragedy would be to not have kids and not fulfill a lifestyle that not having kids allows you. What does that even mean or look like? If one never intends to have children, one inescapably will live a lifestyle that not having children allows Only if you prepare to have children and fail would this be the case, though that is probably not uncommon as most kids and relationships are not planned anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:59 AM
-2

Female grandkids? Why tf would I want to hear my grandmother's hoe stories, that's something to be ashamed of
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 10:39 PM
-1

That is just avoiding taking personal responsibility for your actions, or making an excuse for using people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 10:28 PM
0

But why pretend to love a guy who wouldn't want to have kids absent said love? And who cares if the human race goes extinct? That is such an abstract, bullshit concern Why do you feel your desires are more important, such that you'd ruin some guy's life over them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 10:14 PM
5

Could be he thinks that younger generation is prudish in reaction to things like OLD, he wants to get while the gettings good
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:05 PM
7

Why would you have a kid with someone you don't actually love or find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:04 PM
0

We fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:04 AM
1

Lol hell no I would rather die alone and childless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:36 AM
7

How long? I've known people who keep secrets and lies going for months, some do their entire lives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 09:08 AM
11

How would you know? Women lie and cover up their past, almost all do as it is pretty standard dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 08:55 AM
2

They choose not to let go of their idealizations until it is too late Also, an adult would recognize that they will never truly be fulfilled and will always be nagged by desire, and try to moderate it a bit and not let it wreck their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 08:39 AM
2

Lol my ex gf told me that she made me into what I was by suggesting I look for a new job and we'd only known each other for like 6 months, women always trying to claim men's achievements for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:26 AM
5

I kinda don't see the distinction, a man can make a legitimate choice because he is FA, most people who make this choice aren't so bad that they couldn't find ANYONE if they were willing to do ANYTHING but sometimes the juice isn't worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:18 AM
1

You can have a good life in some respects, it may be a lonely and sexually frustrated life but it won't be all bad, nothing is ever all bad all the time I personally think men should live this life not just in the case that they can't attract women but even if they can if attracting women means groveling and tossing out your dignity (and not just temporarily lying and kissing up to get in her pants lol, I mean if she is trying to place an ultimatum on you you shouldn't be afraid to go fucking nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:15 AM
1

Then my brother can take care of the kid? Is he for some reason not in the picture, or trying to scrape the kid off on me? This is some kind of kinship game theory angle, it's the sort of situation I'd have to say consciously I feel I'd act as if we weren't related but I wouldn't really know until I experience it This sort of thing has ruined families and relationships before
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:10 AM
1

There are many men out there who are doing their absolute best and are pretty moral individuals and it still isn't enough for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:06 AM
2

Aren't you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:04 AM
3

Getting saddled with a cuck baby means I am disappearing without a trace to begin my new life in Peru
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:58 AM
2

My father had a stepdad and he was a good one, you still run into issues of this guy not really loving you (especially if he has a child of his own - a half sibling) but it is better than the alternatives if the guy is decent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:50 AM
1

Over a year is okay, I'm getting old and kinda do want a family so it wouldn't be a problem for me But I would never go under a year after my current experiences And I would not marry unless there children were in the future within a year of marriage, there is really no need for a woman to be married and have me by the balls legally unless she is going to have my children in exchange and promptly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:49 AM
1

Except with a ring you are at her mercy legally
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:45 AM
4

So? Is that an excuse to enter into a relationship in bad faith, cheat, or DB your partner? Engineering is a nerdy profession (assuming nerdy means someone who has an almost all-consuming mental or intellectual bent, rather than into geeky pop culture bullshit and video games), if you want to excel in terms of being an individual contributor in this area you need to be able to get absorbed in your thoughts and model reality/consider as much as possible at once and this doesn't really lend itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:40 AM
7

I am an engineer, I see many engineers in this kind of relationship, they are essentially being preyed upon by their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:31 PM
22

When women settle, if their options aren't great and they want to live a certain lifestyle that they can't provide themselves or just want to keep up appearances, they enter into relationships that are DB from the outset
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 03:47 PM
1

Yeah I'm comfortable with that bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:49 AM
2

I had some sort of neurotic ego, not quite OCD, but it died when I started using psychedelics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:45 AM
1

Ugly but intelligent, we can commiserate about the human condition while I maintain my fatherly superiority having reproduced
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:42 AM
5

I am still coasting on young dick game with my ex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:40 AM
1

Hell no, no more handouts for women who drowned themselves in student loan debt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:39 AM
1

They often can't, society has to foot the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:28 AM
3

Usually the demands of the environment check female choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:15 AM
2

I do not believe that women entirely lacked choice for their entire history, that is feminist revisionism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:55 AM
1

I don't think I've ever posted on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:29 AM
3

I rarely use the term
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:02 AM
2

Buying into the idea that women were slaves in the past is stupid, women have always had some degree of sexual power and I'm willing to bet their social power has waxed and waned, particularly during the high points of a civilization or society
/r/MGTOW13/10/19 05:02 AM
5

You're one of the many people who have a hard time dealing with complexity and so mistakenly assume anyone who even remotely could be labeled as "red pilled" thinks exactly the same way, as if everyone who is labeled with this term agrees on everything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:54 AM
1

I don't I hold down a full time job and make decent money I need to quit drinking and smoking weed anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:40 AM
4

It's okay, because they will make up for it by grinding the remaining men to dust
/r/MGTOW13/10/19 02:46 AM
1

I shower daily and have no STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:04 AM
9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisherian_runaway It is possible that if sexual selection is the prevailing mechanism, females will choose traits that eventually create a liability for the species, and if conditions change to such an extent that the trait selected is extremely maladaptive could lead a species to extinction Not only that, women are often attracted to anti-social traits that are a net negative for society but which will propagate their individual genes further than men who act in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:57 AM
13

Women don't actually make good selection choices, and they definitely don't make choices that are 100% good for the human race
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:48 AM
1

I have been working my entire life to be a provider and it is still not enough without the rest of the song and dance
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:44 AM
0

You are treating this like a competition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 12:25 PM
3

Is there any difference between the terms "coping mechanism" and "strategy" besides connotation? Your post lacks content
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:39 AM
1

Yeah, I've heard people consider no-baggage to be suspicious in and of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 05:41 AM
1

The no-baggage baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 05:32 AM
1

Does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 10:25 PM
3

No, the OP hasn't made their way out of the school system yet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:32 PM
3

No it doesn't all come down to physical strength in the modern world, only in your 20s and if you remain lower class, it certainly helps but isn't the be all end all Grow the fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:28 PM
0

Why don't you go ask them on those boards instead of thinking this is something that all men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:26 PM
2

What do you mean by "our" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:21 AM
2

No, I don't feel regret any longer I'm amused at where I am in life considering my background I don't care for aging, and I don't care for living a long life though I am not embracing an early death There are things I want and wanted in life (that I am still working toward) but I am okay with living alone and only for myself, even in poverty (which I likely won't have to put up with)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 02:53 AM
1

There are no perfect or ideal people in the world, and I'd say neurotic people can have their strengths
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 01:56 AM
1

Men can choose not to commit to these women, or date them Women just want to make it seem like men are powerless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:53 AM
1

"Bad" men are attractive to women for their ability to carry a woman's genes far and wide, and "good" men are attractive for their willingness to part with their resources
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 06:50 AM
1

You can achieve low N and high libido with intense neurosis
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:34 AM
2

Because she doesn't have a legal tool to fuck you up if you don't keep your end of the bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:30 AM
3

I don't see what could be more intimate than procreative sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:28 AM
-1

I don't think people really want to hear anyone even being sad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:49 AM
0

Go for it, take it as a personal slight and not just a natural consequence of biology that you should just accept, see how it works out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:41 PM
0

Happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:33 PM
6

The modern millennial female would not say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:27 AM
0

Are you that weird metrosexual poster who is obsessed with youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:40 AM
0

Any post-Roman western society is going to consider middle age most men's prime
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:39 AM
1

Exceptionally high IQ does not help anyone get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:24 AM
5

Women choose dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:01 AM
1

This is one of those topics where it is too mentally damaging for women to accept the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:32 PM
1

Whatever bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:31 PM
1

Have you ever been in a relationship? It's not just about BJs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:31 PM
2

I've had sex with women who have and have not had children, having had no children of my own Women who have children have looser, more mobile/distended vaginas that are much less pleasing to deal with Also, experienced women are jaded and don't give a fuck about being a good lover - hence why old women are reviled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:21 PM
1

Doesn't sound dumb at all, dude wrote out several paragraphs with decent vocabulary, that takes a level education or intelligence whether you agree with what he wrote or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:19 PM
1

I know relatively ugly SE chicks who are kinda bodily attractive (because they worked on it) and pick out nice outfits and wear makeup while outclassing 90% of men in their work performance who have a naturally more masculine than most women vibe but still smol and fuckable and I have a tiny crush on vibe Then again I've dated even smoller but more facially attractive SE women who put less effort into makeup and were naturally more feminine, at that time I put my self on the line as that is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:14 PM
1

Doesn't really matter if you're past the age of fertility IMO, the guy may as well try for a fertile girl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:11 PM
4

Don't fail then - that is how men are treated from the very beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:02 PM
2

Do you not notice that men comparatively are either ruthless or robotic? Our inner world is ruthlessly eviscerated and we are forced into sharp contact with reality if we want to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:01 PM
3

Man I'm not terrified of being alone I'm just horny and want my oxytocin I could easily live and die alone but for that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:49 PM
0

You did not buy into the covert contract about what relationships should be like
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:43 PM
0

Being low libido has to be rough as a woman as men won't think you're worth shit (because you as a woman naturally demand so much) if you aren't putting out You can't just ignore your partners needs, there just won't be that many family men out there if that is how women are, or they will become family men through the woman's deception or through her decision to get pregnant at his expense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:40 PM
19

I don't like the lies and the demands, I especially don't like the demands placed on me with no mind to offer equivalent value
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:25 AM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:19 AM
5

You are full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:41 PM
3

What exactly do you remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:29 AM
4

Yes, often times impulsive risk taking leads to death or ruin Everything, human behavior included, exists in a kind of dynamic equilibrium and there are no ways to conduct oneself that are universally applicable regardless of the context of one's life. It's not really in a meek and short man's interest to act like an Alpha male, that will only get him quashed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:44 AM
11

Don't fall for this submissive licking or mouth on genitalia. The woman is the submissive one. If she wants a mouth on her genitalia bad enough then threesomes it is. I have heard from so many women all about the guys who spend an hour licking and bowing down to their gross lady bits. They fake an orgasm just to get the guy to stop. This seems almost like you're too wrapped up in a masculine identity rather than just being masculine There is no need for an attitude like this if you already are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:33 AM
2

I've dated foreign women and have to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:27 AM
3

Agree, outside of sex and all that comes with it the majority of women have little to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 06:00 PM
1

When it comes to not having sex when you don't desire it that's a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:52 PM
2

What's the incentive for men staying in the game (or, staying in the game with good faith toward women) with this attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 09:44 PM
4

This is an equalist perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 09:40 PM
2

What would men need a committed wife for without those emotional hangups?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 09:35 PM
1

You are like a sponge
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 10:15 AM
2

Outside the US yes, more comparative within the US
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 10:13 AM
1

Women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 10:40 PM
6

Man I am 28 and I am greying early Personally I find a somewhat youthful face/skin with grey hair attractive, it's a nice combination of dignity and youth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:17 PM
2

I would date girls down to 18-19, whether I'd commit would depend on the girl I'm 28 and have had 7 year age gaps in dating and interest with 10 year age gaps My situation is funny, I think I'm pretty decent looking but I have a nearly incel mentality, so I get a good bit of attraction from OLD but am incredibly awkward. Also I am a pretty intellectually focused dude so young people and their stupid opinions don't interest me particularly, and I am in my head enough that I can overlook or not no…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:13 PM
1

I don't think so My family wouldn't care, at least at my current age I can take another failed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:08 PM
1

Orbiting is common but most people do not have insight into their own unconscious behavior or that of others
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 01:57 AM
1

Yes, but this is a problem specifically with posters HERE who theorycraft/create a strawman based on averages in which the traits in question do exhibit high variance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 02:44 PM
12

Don't argue with the woman who can only think in averages and lacks contact with the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 12:39 PM
1

Nothing in my post claims that IQ is either genetic or learned, I was more so addressing the need for high IQ at this point in time within our society - maybe you're confusing me with the prior poster and should reconsider your own intellectual abilities Not going to bother arguing with you as you seem to have strong opinions and a tendency to jump to conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:18 PM
1

Personality: doesn't have one, is an empty vessel who conforms to my wishes and desires
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:12 PM
0

IQ is what built our technological society, no high IQ people, no technological society - and there must be continual advancement and expansion in order to maintain our current society (this growth and the need it creates is what creates room for technical, high IQ people)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:10 PM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:59 PM
2

Men do talk about their issues, but society/women don't like the way men talk about their issues
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:08 PM
2

Why do you think that is? Women don't use lethal means as more often than not they are trying to get some attention and know (if subconsciously) that they have inherent value to society
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:07 PM
5

Men don't have the social options women have as people don't value men inherently, do you think anyone wants anything to do with a man down on his luck? He's just seen as a weak, broken loser
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:05 PM
4

I think so. And women can't tolerate being unhappy for a length of time. It is necessary for men to find the strength to deal with unhappiness and unfulfilled desires, so they can build themselves up. Men are more naturally resistant to the hardships they’re forced to face as well and aren't as unhappy as a woman would be in the same position Women are the weaker gender but don't want to admit it, and over time the surviving men gain value and women get pissy and think they're entitled to commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:03 PM
1

Got em
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:58 PM
1

We've been operating on cultural and social deceit for hundreds if not thousands of years Women don't even know how to act without their smokescreen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:57 PM
2

Women also have more sex more often at a younger age
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:51 PM
1

Men are meant to lose that idealism as they get older, and as women get older they become more desperate (but unlike men will make a bunch of excuses and try to socially pressure/trap you so you don't go and follow your own interests by leaving her when her value plummets)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:49 PM
2

I smell fear
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:27 AM
1

Nah lifting weights isn't necessary unless you want to enhance your value in that way, all men must develop value of some sort
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:37 AM
2

You are autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:55 AM
1

It is not connected in a meaningful or necessary way, plenty of people who are not WNs affiliate with RP ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:48 AM
1

Truly objective knowledge of the world and others is not possible Most people say that RP is true to their experience. Given our differing situations in life, that may be true for some, but not for others
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:44 AM
2

In what way is it connected, except that some people who would affiliate themselves with RP also affiliate themselves with WN?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:41 AM
1

People can pick and choose what applies to their life and person, you do it and do not in fact have access to any kind of objective truth Stop engaging in pointless arguments with spooks or continue wasting your time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:37 AM
1

I am personally ashamed of my nerd tendencies, they are more often an expression of weakness (I can't get what I really want, so practice a holding maneuver in which I dazzle myself with vicarious fantasies), and dislike seeing it in other INT* types - what sort of inner life are you building consuming mass culture? Take psychedelics, experience ego death. Now that you realize your own emptiness, put yourself into life or death situations, take calculated risks. Study and be versed in many menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:32 AM
13

Yeah the previous poster is right. You debate individuals not an imaginary intellectual edifice, the details of which no one actually agrees upon. So much for your knock out punch LEL
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:27 AM
3

Also INTP and can confirm the first part, I'm naturally fairly attractive (6', mesomorphic physique, decent face, white) but not really giving a fuck about the outer world and social status comes through in how I've taken care of my body (not to say I don't pay attention - I'm older now and it is something I've had to correct, but I just naturally am not at the same level as others - also this is something I notice in female INTPs and INTJs, they also are bad at keeping it all together appearanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 01:19 AM
3

Kids are just accessories
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:15 AM
1

Great, a bellwether dad, sounds like something a loser would settle for
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:34 AM
2

Men in the same situation would get much worse treatment from women, "oh wow, what a poor soul who needs compassion." would never cross a woman's mind at least not while maintaining a sexual relationship, which is not the case with a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:28 AM
2

If you have such low expectations and opinions of men this is exactly the kind of man you will get
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:25 AM
1

I have dated 5' women being 6' and haven't really had fulfilling experiences, I think they're better off with shorter less masculine men as they tend to be fearful/timid around larger men even if they're attracted to them and require you to be excessively gentle interpersonally and physically, also women of that size are kinda fragile
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:19 AM
4

Whenever I have used "dread" it is usually in response to some mental games or shit tests that I decided to escalate instead of defusing because I don't like that shit and don't want to put up with it and will inflict pain in order to teach you to stop. Generally it's not something you lead with, toxic relationships take too much effort and that is what that leads to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:02 AM
2

If she were attracted to you she would trigger you to show your feelings, start a fight, and then have rough makeup sex afterward tbh And she would feel bad if things went too far
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:00 AM
1

I'm just speaking the language you chose to use dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:56 AM
2

This killing women and children thing is your anxiety speaking, men have nothing to gain really from killing women, the only men who do so are mentally ill There is no "combat" between men and women/children, that's just murder Physically coercing for sex is another story, but it usually doesn't escalate to killing I don't disagree that men have violent impulses and that violence can't be cathartic or pleasurable for men though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:48 AM
0

Black men maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:40 AM
-1

Cumming inside feels better physically and emotionally, the risk and intimacy of unprotected sex and the idea of filling my partner up with warm cum is all part of the appeal I will time my partner's cycle and try to cum inside whenever risk is low (including during periods, I don't mind and actually like the sight, smell, and taste of blood, and the idea of our blood and cum intermingling, unfortunately my ex wouldn't let me smear it all over myself and eat her during her period ;__;). I pull o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:38 AM
1

Lower and "UMC" women are whores, middle class women are typically not whores to the same degree as they stand to lose as the stakes are higher (high expectations and no cushion) Middle class people in general are the ones that stand out ethically/morally across history
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:50 AM
6

Your opinion doesn't mesh with my experience, but I was lucky enough to have a father who stuck around through actual hardship. I have to think you just don't know any better whether due to not having children, or not having a father
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:46 AM
1

Perfect until you're going through divorce but still love him at least on PPD comments
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:41 AM
3

Extreme projection here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:40 AM
2

Do you have kids? Are you the child of a single mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:36 AM
3

They're out to get theirs and some feel those low N people have something they want and they will take it, it's really as simple as that I can't see any self-respecting guy who has options or any kind of experience but is generally relationship minded being fooled by some of the hoes on PPD, they assume they give off no tells or hoe vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:25 AM
3

Nah, I know actual chads and they regret their impulsive decision making as they grow older in years and life wears them down, you come off as more of a poser There are plenty of dudes out there who knock up a bunch of slampigs and think they're alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:10 AM
1

No escape from consequences of hoeing, no quality man is going to want to be with a whore if he can help it You get what you give in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:59 AM
2

Do you ever feel like a sack of shit for not really contributing to any one of your kids life as much as you could have?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:46 AM
1

tbh you are just a whore, not everyone lives the life you live
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:45 AM
1

I get to do whatever I like basically, outside of obvious relationship destroying stuff like cheating. Give me my space and you get to keep your stability
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:38 AM
1

And that's when women start taking advantage of the legal system
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:37 AM
1

If I loved her I would stay, especially if we had a child. If she lost her beauty it's more an issue of her not giving me space, I can get by on memories and still love someone even going through a hard time but if you don't respect the shift in the balance of power it will create problems, doesn't mean I'm going to cheat I'll just want to entertain myself with other stuff than your body Also if she was a PPD posting hoe I'd bruise her cervix and catch a flight to Peru
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:36 AM
1

Butthurt fag
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:00 PM
1

Yeah and my lived experience tells me otherwise Yes, you need a flexible life plan starting at age 12 if you want upward social mobility, eat shit and deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 05:01 AM
-3

It is kinda playing along with me as I'll drop you after pounding your cervix for giving me too much shit It's playing along when it can be so easily taken away, that is something you should know as a woman tbqh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:20 PM
2

I doubt many woman could restrain me against my will, I would have to play along for her to actually get them on Also I may play along with mental games if I want to get laid but I'm not going to take any kind of submissive position in the bedroom, and don't think most men would without having some kind of weird fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:00 PM
2

How do you force him without his cooperation?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 09:33 PM
1

You can get one more likely than not if you put your mind to it and have the means
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 11:31 AM
2

I plan on spending most of my earnings now that I likely will forego having children of my own, the rest is for nieces and nephews
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 05:27 PM
2

Those revolutions are unjustified when it is possible to attain upward mobility through actual hard work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 01:33 PM
0

Making big bucks doesn't hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:31 AM
-1

Money counts for something, it is a sacrifice in itself to pursue the lifestyle of an engineer, but it is a sacrifice that can aid your children, you are failing at populational thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 12:14 AM
-1

This is not what post menopausal women do, for that they'd have to be appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 10:55 PM
-2

I'm not surprised that when women lose their fertility they would spread their legs for all comers, one of her two primary uses is no longer possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 10:45 PM
10

Right, but these guys aren't incels if they have access to relationships but aren't partaking, and real life isn't nearly so extreme that they have to put up with Beed Chungus. More likely they could find a woman on their level if they are willing to put up with her past and her neuroses, which is what MGTOW are not willing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:24 PM
-3

You have a problem in thinking you are smarter than the average individual
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:18 PM
12

If these guys who have the means to paraglide and shit made it a priority they could have girlfriends, wives, and families. If you have the means to live an exotic lifestyle like that, they have the means to get women, that they choose not to is what makes them MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:17 PM
1

If these guys are gainfully employed the reality is they will be a hot commodity as women age and desire families. Individual women have to compete against the rest of society and two parent households if they choose to have children alone. Men are much, much better suited to the job of being providers over the long term and absent any social assistance or propaganda campaign to stymie them easily outcompete women no questions asked I don't have a lot of respect for men who are earning less than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:06 PM
0

No, there is no need to have and raise children in that kind of environment, men do not crave social status and keeping up appearances like women do It's really best just not to bring children into that kind of world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:34 AM
0

Man you really are a basic bitch, you probably just like this shit because you found the guy attractive and it had nothing to do with any interest of your own, just replace all your likes with "guy speaking passionately about X"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:32 AM
2

Weird that you'd be into a guy who is in computing or engineering, but not into a guy who is a mathematician or physicist At the end of the day it's all math
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:16 AM
1

BB impacts your looks even if you are already good looking BB jobs tend to be sedentary, and if you aren't born into privilege and have to actually perform at work you have to compete against men who are willing to burn up all their free time and their lifeforce to get ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:45 AM
2

Yeah, just stick around here for a few years, see how many female posters marriages are falling apart or the trickle truth of their bizarre lives come out
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 02:11 PM
1

If it isn't mine, I want to bail at 0 years, 0 months, 0 days
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:49 PM
2

When were the statistics gathered, just because women in their 30s in the 80s and 90s made serviceable partners does not mean millennial women will
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:29 AM
1

wtf is this human spirit shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:31 PM
1

They aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:15 PM
0

Modern women cannot compete with actual men in the workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:26 AM
2

Yeah of course, women are kinda a hindrance without sex, I really don't enjoy the maintenance that's involved in a relationship (especially in a situation like this where there inevitably is going to be a lot of emotional upkeep) and the lack of freedom I don't think oral or anal would be enough for me, pussy is the main course and everything else is really just foreplay. Relationship sex wouldn't be satisfying for me without blowing a load in my partner, that is what releases the oxytocin for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 12:37 AM
1

That sounds interesting, is it basically the line of "you can't win, we don't care, and we won't change so deal with it and us" that has been going around lately?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 12:15 AM
1

I understand the body language and mental states of other men just fine tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:00 PM
1

Multiple prolific BP women posters on this sub have or are going through divorce in living memory
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:41 AM
2

What do alcohol issues even mean? Has a couple beers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:32 AM
-3

Women's relationships actually just hinge on how they can easily legally fuck up their husband if he goes against her will
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:26 AM
1

Nah, engage with me at face value or not at all, I don't care about your view
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 01:51 PM
1

If these guys are tall and white then they are likely middle or upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:24 AM
2

Sure you should have equal opportunities, but don't expect a hand up when competition gets cutthroat and people start sacrificing their lives and youths for their goals, most women won't be at the very top in their chosen profession for this reason (and can't afford it if they want families)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:15 AM
1

How exactly do you enumerate those options?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:12 AM
3

Is it fair for those who did have such long term planning skills while young to be paired up with someone who did not, pissed away their time and youth, and feels entitled to what the other has built?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 12:09 AM
1

Homosexual partner counts can blow up what should be an equal average, and the fact that the population structure isn't exactly 50/50, but there are actually many more men in the world than women, anywhere from 1 to 1.07 men for every woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 01:59 PM
7

Same with me, infidelity is what finally and irrevocably red pilled me Not just mere infidelity but the depths of the lies and manipulation, it was absolutely breathtaking and all of the mental gymnastics and theatrics she tried to pull to get out of it
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 06:34 AM
1

Yes, it is in women's nature to deceive to a greater degree than men, the expectations of character and integrity are much lower so it is not nearly as important to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:53 PM
1

A year is enough time to lose attraction to someone and then you're just roommates
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:43 PM
1

Your child will still be of lower status and have less means than a two parent household, and the fact that you couldn't get a husband speaks a lot about you over any potential gain you would get in terms of genetics with a sperm donor
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:30 PM
2

Sounds like you're just an object or accessory to them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:29 PM
1

You've admitted you are a shit lawyer in the past and never should have gone down that professional path, haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:27 PM
0

Lol veto power over what? That just sounds like you want to dominate the relationship after all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:25 PM
1

You can really fuck him up if he decides to cheat or play games too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 03:35 PM
0

It gives you an out from your responsibilities and shifts the blame away from your conscious self to some speculated unconscious motivation that made you do what it is you did
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 02:43 PM
1

I think you'd find this guy more attractive if you got roughed up by life a little more, you haven't really suffered enough yet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 12:08 PM
-1

Lol at the attempt to flip the script on the older man/younger woman thing It's just comes off as completely pathetic from that angle, there is no potential for life with a barren old woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:29 AM
8

There is more information available but that narrative is likely still present in some social circles, and people consume their information selectively It's hard for the human mind to imagine just how vast the world is and how many things are happening in parallel Society will still go on to shame men who speak badly of women and who shun marriage or don't participate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:32 PM
7

If men were completely rational rather than hormonal, and had all of the information ahead of time, they wouldn't marry period
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 04:07 PM
-4

As originally conceived, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 04:04 PM
6

Yeah it's an old, pre-internet person way of thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:55 PM
-9

You consented when you married them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:51 PM
3

It would be better to let the system collapse, no social welfare and if your children starve and die so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:50 PM
2

You're old
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:49 PM
3

The men in your head told you that, not real life men to your face (though I am sure I'll be contradicted)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:46 PM
6

Machines haven't made men's muscles irrelevant it only seems like that to you as a girl in college who doesn't really have any responsibilities and doesn't have a real job yet and never interacts with anybody outside her social class
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:28 PM
7

Another round of early 20 somethings trying to adopt a Marxist understanding of the world again This time it will work!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:25 PM
-6

Marital rape doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:23 PM
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Only someone who is wasting their lives on Reddit could have come up with this tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 01:54 PM
1

You have no idea what you are talking about you dumb bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:06 AM
1

That's a consequentialist way of looking at things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 03:04 AM
0

Christ, you were one of the chipper happily married women How are you planning on splitting assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 02:55 AM
2

A lot of college students use reddit (or women who were sheltered and haven't outgrown their idealization phase), so they'll say no But being attractive is a big source of women's power, I would say it is a double edged sword though as if you are both attractive and have used your attractiveness to lead a more comfortable life (the majority of women have used their femininity and sexuality to purchase a comfortable life) there will be a tradeoff in personal growth and competency, and if you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:50 PM
5

Given how hard men have to work, and the very real likelihood of failure, women should receive no social compensation or assistance for their relative handicaps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:43 PM
3

Not true because you catch feels and they cloud your judgement It's good to have red pill knowledge present in your mind so you can act fast when the time comes, but until then your judgement is often clouded and you catch feels One lived experience is necessary to really see women for what they are
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 05:37 PM
3

I think that there is such a thing as oversaving, which doesn't make sense as you can't spend your money when you're dead, and you only have one life and you're going to get the most out of it at a young age Oversaving doesn't really fit with the MGTOW lifestyle. I'd personally rather treat myself like a king, because while it may not directly increase my net worth, I think quality of life is important especially if you are pushing yourself professionally
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 04:05 AM
17

My ex would try to goad me into hitting her, then hit herself while threatening to call the police if I chose not to cave and hold her accountable for her shitty behavior
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:59 AM
73

Just a warning to younger guys, this is hard to pull off without some first hand experience in women's duplicity When you're young and inexperienced, you don't know you're in a situation until you're in the thick of it
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:57 AM
-12

Why save money if you do not plan on having children, unless you have some sort of goal, beyond what is necessary for emergencies and basic retirement?
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:54 AM
5

This may be an unpopular answer, but it's probably reinforcement and validation for our conscious life choices, to some extent Certain anxious psychologies (like mine admittedly) will gravitate toward viewing the object of their anxieties (the shit women pull in society and in relationships and the possible things that can happen if you get entangled with one) from a distance We're biological machines, we have libidos and (often unwanted) sexual impulses I personally like coming here for the pre…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:49 AM
2

Biggest LARPer on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 01:42 AM
2

It's only damage if important people care about it People don't normally think the way you do, or the way that PPD people think
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:11 PM
5

I actually built my life to be a provider type and have lost interest as my career has taken off My resources are all or myself now, gonna live like a gay man because there is no future
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:37 AM
1

I come before my genes You're yoking yourself to what are at the end of the day abstractions, fucking teenagers or people who retarded at a teenage mental level all up in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:16 AM
1

Not as an absolute rule There is a sort of communication between the sexes, that if not engaged in, will likely lead to no sex being had - you can call this unattractiveness if you want, I don't think this is appropriate if and when it is a voluntary action
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:12 AM
2

That self-improvement can only be about improving social standing is a very feminine way of thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 02:59 PM
3

I’ve had this issue before too, girl just wouldn’t take the hint
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 10:12 AM
2

Lol, how do you know you do these things to a greater degree than if you weren't jealous? All this is is rationalization of shitty and immature behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 04:04 AM
1

Women moved first, see your early start to puberty and the fable of Adam and Eve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:47 AM
2

You've already outed yourself as such a person
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:43 AM
3

Men shouldn't simp for women who've been the town bicycle
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:41 AM
4

Pendulum's gotta swing hard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:17 PM
0

Sure, keep it to concrete things like your workplace, not fairies like MGTOW
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 06:04 AM
3

Identities are for chumps tbh Stop identifying as MGTOW, shut up and do your thing
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:57 AM
5

If you have the willpower to go without more power to you I think most guys who go MGTOW generally are able to resist pursuing women (or are actively rejected), but there is going to be variation
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:17 AM
1

The thing is after 40 most guys who pursued a career are at least top 20% of male income earners. They have a good decade to find a woman between 30-40
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:51 AM
4

Who the fuck is the baseline to measure against, autist vs non-autist are mutually exclusive terms You don't know what the fuck you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 01:30 PM
2

Believing in unicorns sets you up for a false hope and false quest
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 01:04 PM
8

Or believe that there is a One out there, which implies NAWALT Or that women are not sexual beings like men and the differences between the sexes being more based in hypergamy, but magical vagina fairies
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 01:01 PM
6

If you really want to live a MGTOW lifestyle, keep your mouth shut and move on That’s what I’ve done and plan on doing more consciously, every so many years I find a new higher paying job in a new city
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 12:42 PM
2

Nothing about this is going to come from a place of reason The more men that are options for them, the more value they have and the more they can leverage those options to get a guy they actually want
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 12:33 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:05 PM
3

Are you female? Young women are fertile, old women are not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:05 PM
3

I don’t get dudes who even bother with over 40 yo women For me, absent family (maybe even then) the juice isn’t worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:03 PM
4

Autists have deficits in abstract thinking This whole sub is a bunch of bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:57 AM
1

Was this not true at any age I suppose being an educated professional just gives you access to a more desirable dating/mating market, but doesn’t do anything in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:49 AM
2

The way I talk with my male family is way too brazen and rude for most people to handle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:38 AM
5

Standards are much lower for women in the workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:42 PM
1

Agreed, more often than not it's not that women are better communicators or are more emotionally in tune with themselves and others, it's really just that women have more social value than men (because their reproductive value gives them something to trade on in social exchanges)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:24 PM
0

Well put
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:47 AM
1

I just see women as stupid whores 99% of the time now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:38 AM
1

An outsized importance considering the modern era
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:30 AM
2

Sounds like you have your head up your ass given you think that these men are doing what they’re doing to impress YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 02:17 PM
-1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 03:21 AM
1

I'm not your personal therapist bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:24 AM
2

Women will find someone else to fuck if you aren't going to put in the effort to fuck them, where previously you'd go through many more relationships and heartbreak yet have a greater chance of finally settling down when shit got real and you accidentally knocked a bitch up Now what will happen is misery for both genders (more women will become single mothers and find themselves alone as their looks go, many men will lack the motivation to really kill it in life because they don't have a family …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:07 AM
1

Because you're not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:04 AM
1

You need to take heroic doses of psychedelics so you can both not care but not wallow in self-pity like you are currently You are not that important and need to learn to accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:01 AM
2

There will be men who will satisfy their needs by themselves rather than chase women Some of those men may be better off for it (having an outlet while focusing on other things), some may fail to reproduce (if that was their goal) Inadvertently it probably has played a role in polarizing further the varying sexual success of men, tbh I personally just jerked off while getting through school for the most part until it became unbearable and I think many millennial men had this mindset that they'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:55 AM
1

Squatemalan mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:50 AM
1

I see that as small-minded, Üntermensch level thinking, and does not reflect objective reality but your opinion and perception. Also leads to a crab bucket mentality Personal growth is its own reward if you enjoy the process itself, and there is no peak but only perpetual extension of your own capabilities which should enlarge the self
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:45 AM
1

It’s the same notion as resting on your laurels, it prevents further growth But then this is a sex and relationship sub so personal development for its own sake is not the goal I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 06:28 PM
1

It's cool but it is a trap, and you fall into it because you start flexing your ego, because flexing your ego gets your dick wet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 03:12 PM
2

I agree, but there is a class of men who scorn the "constructed world" and consider it illegitimate and not real, and so do not develop the skills (social and otherwise) to succeed in that world. They want the competition between men to only occur in the domain in which they possess the greatest advantage (it is the same for high status but physically weak men with their respective domains of expertise) rather than at all levels simultaneously. It is an expression of psychological weakness. It w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 02:35 PM
2

Society has and will never crumble to the extent needed for what you describe as the real world social matrix to ever be totally relevant over and above what you describe as the constructed matrix, this is a fantasy of the high T but low status working class male
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 12:06 AM
2

People may want to have your qualities, but the fact is it takes time and effort to develop those qualities and they may not like the sacrifices they need to make to get to your level There are a lot of people with complexes because they are unskilled in some area, and so they treat it like sour grapes, good or bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 11:53 PM
1

The constructed matrix is the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 11:49 PM
1

There is no male social matrix, not in Western societies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 11:46 PM
1

Not really because some men will disdain you (but who cares because they're Betas and the only thing that matters in the Beta Social Matrix is production) and some will be jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 12:05 AM
1

Men are needed for their labor, 80% of able bodied men need to be tricked into propping society up and working hard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:06 PM
2

Religious people are harder workers and exist in a subculture that is more family-oriented Under certain conditions of competition they dominate Besides the delusional beliefs most religious people are just better people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 11:52 AM
3

It will be the only person in their lives who will be forgiving to a male
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 11:45 AM
1

Do you or your husband make more? I'm wondering why the disparity exists in your N count, sex and relationships take time and (at least emotional) investment, in my mind I would think less of you with this kind of disparity - if I could deny myself while working on these things, why couldn't you? Where would you be with all that free time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:00 PM
1

What do you do for a living, and what does your husband do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:22 AM
5

Obsession with n count is due to deep rooted fear of paternity fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:08 PM
1

Some of us wanted families
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:01 PM
1

Men have to compete with other men, and it is our earning power that gives us the greatest shot, some people are going to dump 24h into developing their earning power and let other parts of their life slip because that is what they think gives them the best shot in life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:56 PM
1

No one cares about you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:12 PM
1

Those offspring's broken lives can serve as examples
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:10 PM
3

You decided to let him cum inside you, now pay for the kid 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:06 PM
3

If you bluff and seem to NEED the other more but (pretend to) CARE less you are potentially putting yourself in a dangerous situation that could blow up in your face
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 04:45 PM
1

Point 3 is a historically fictional narrative and overly linear
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:29 PM
1

Why is this a problem or unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 01:20 PM
5

What kind of moron would associate ppd with quality discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:40 PM
1

I'm not attacking you, I am describing you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:09 PM
1

You are one of the most neurotic females on this sub Just give up and leave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:05 PM
3

I agree that most people here are probably average in terms of bone structure and unchangeables, and think they are hot due to deluding themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:42 PM
0

It's pathetic because it won't last and these older women are using it as an ego boost
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:37 PM
1

Yes LTRs are fine too so long as they are stable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:31 PM
5

>buy into the idea of families ​ What are you getting at here? Sounds like you are the conditioned one with this atomized thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:33 AM
1

Needed in what sense? You still pretty much need to get married if you want to have offspring, single parent households cannot compete with a married couple, so in my eyes marriage is still a need - but the need becomes realized when it is too late to change yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:01 AM
3

Augustus Caesar encouraged traditional morality while sleeping with others' wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:47 AM
1

Yes if that's what it takes I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:07 AM
1

Not all men go bald, and weight can be lost at any age
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:06 AM
1

Don't settle, it isn't really fair to the guy you are settling for. Just don't have children, if the men you want don't want you, the world didn't really want you anyway. And besides, your children will probably go through similar struggles or worse, why put them through that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:06 AM
0

He knew the risks Not gonna convince me otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:02 AM
3

What about modern life makes it so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:58 PM
1

The man also contributed and will share in the punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:46 PM
1

Nah fuck that, hold the men responsible for cumming inside the wrong women too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:45 PM
0

That's fucking retarded, I want these men to be scorned, locked up, and driven to extinction I want these men to be financially hamstrung (as is right) so that they don't go off to create more single moms, I would be all in favor of forcing men who knock a bitch up to be forced to cohabitate and support their offspring, and remove all social welfare to remove all incentive to pursue anti-civil sexual strategies (and let nature take its course for those who cannot support themselves and their chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 04:12 PM
1

No one has put me down but I have been prodded not to work so hard, because that would mean others would be expected to also work Personally, I think if you are going to be MGTOW, you should be sublimating the sexual energy in something like SKILLED work or a creative pursuit This is what will give you power and allow us to assert our will over our environment and culture
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 01:17 PM
2

Why would I as a man want other men to do shit like financial abortion and litter the pool of available women with single moms even more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 02:14 AM
1

Women are physically incapable of telling the truth and straightforward communication
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 11:15 AM
1

If sex is freely had there is not really a point to relationships except in female's minds
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:17 PM
2

Pump her and dump her like a normal person That's the world we live in nowadays, pair bonding is just brainwashing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:15 PM
1

God I thought you were smart No one thinks its women's duty to have and raise children, if you don't want them or can't afford them don't have them, if you want them its your own business and coming out of your own god damn pocket
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 01:40 AM
2

Why should you be compensated for it? It's your own business
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:42 AM
4

Baggage is defined by the opposite party
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:33 AM
1

It's either now or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:10 PM
2

Any sort of social welfare program
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:02 PM
1

You're just a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:40 AM
2

You're neurotic af
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:30 AM
2

The first one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:26 AM
1

In nature males would kill the children of males you came before
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:21 AM
1

There is always the option of letting nature take its course
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:19 AM
1

This is when you fuck off to another country
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:19 AM
3

Successful on what time span? This shit costs money and the people that are being helped are more or less human garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:17 AM
3

They're attracted to power
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:04 AM
2

Some men can't do better Some men (those with middle class values) are monogamous by choice, though all men have "polygamous" (ie their dick still gets hard for other, younger women even if they love their partner) urges
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:35 PM
2

Let's back up and say that this is what I want out of a prospective partner as it is something I practice myself, not something that women should have to do as a whole (I just see those who don't as suboptimal partners for me) You could probably dedicate more time to "becoming your best self" if you weren't sexually active as sex creates emotional ties and entanglements more often than not, and if you are the sort of person for whom it doesn't we are not really compatible and if a relationship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:10 PM
1

If you weren't banging Chad while putting off marriage I would have no issues
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 10:48 AM
1

You get those benefits whether you take them or not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:27 PM
1

Are you blaming men for your own high N count?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 06:25 PM
7

Yeah, the Internet and the brashness of feminism makes the ugliness that women were meant to hide extremely visible, and it is repugnant to men who would otherwise be betas
/r/MGTOW09/05/19 05:59 PM
1

Then the society is toppled, they become the new tops, and a new underclass of men emerges from the spawn of the losers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:35 AM
0

Yeah I know a guy who raped his autistic sister, is borderline retarded, still does just fine with women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:24 AM
0

There is nothing noble about having standards that you don't hold yourself to, it's yet another thing that we should look at women with scorn for holding to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:07 AM
1

I think I might
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 12:11 AM
0

Yeah, wouldn't want to be the husband dealing with the wife who read something and got in a tizzy, that's what I don't understand about any of the older married people being on this board
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 12:01 PM
4

The male as at least an equally important and I would argue a much more important role in their childrens lives. He should be making as much or more of an effort to ensure they grow into well rounded, responsible and morally sound adults as the mother should be. They are both responsible and should act accordingly. I don't think our societies think so anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 11:32 AM
1

What do you really have to offer beyond your looks? I know you're satisfied with cheap steak, so at least you have that going for you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 07:58 AM
1

You aren't special You're just another person Get over yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 07:57 AM
1

You aren't very fiery, I don't think this look really suits you, maybe tone down the man hate a little bit and just grow up and be a big girl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 07:44 AM
0

The only analysis that matters when we talk about it on this level is the aggregate, and in aggregate women do take more than they give, and men give more than they take That individual men are takers and individual women are givers is pretty much irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 10:30 AM
-1

Society wide collectivism leads to wealth transfer from working men to lazy women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 04:00 AM
11

Real talk, I want someone who doesn't already have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:48 PM
0

For women, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:45 PM
3

Yeah it sucks that the kid doesn't have a dad, why should I be responsible for raising another man's kid though, when I don't want to? It's my life, my time, my work and effort - why would you think I would value a child who I am not related to over myself or a child who is actually related to me? These are the real consequences of making a poor choice in partner
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 04:37 AM
2

The cat's out of the bag as far as men being under women's spell only a fucking fool could be blind enough to fall in love with modern women
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 04:31 AM
2

I mean, if you're looking at the same age, you're probably not that special yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:25 AM
1

Flair checks out Try to rely more on deduction than statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:42 AM
3

You gotta give the guy who is making bank the opportunity to peacock a bit, if you aren't wearing nice clothes, nice cologne, etc. and you are making that kind of money you are not doing yourself any favors. You fashioned the scenario so that you can have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:38 AM
5

It's best to assume they're all sluts and treat them accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:30 AM
1

Yes, men would have to pair bond young as well, we will not see it as there is no social pressure on men to do so, and women like to assume men who are actually out of their league are their equals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:26 AM
4

Where is this then exactly? Also I think your math is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:48 PM
1

You don't get to fuck up without acquiring some baggage If you fuck up hard you might cripple yourself That's part of being an independent adult, the rest of the world isn't going to come together to give you a 2nd chance any time soon, it would be better to take your failures and secrets to your grave and live in fear of them coming out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:43 PM
1

Can't have one without the other if we are assuming monogamy Use your logic brain
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:36 PM
4

You think they aren't gold diggers? Bleating "lol 6 figures ain't shit xD" just proves the point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:22 PM
1

I certainly think the bio dads who don't stick around are scum, but that doesn't mean you get to reach into my pocket
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:10 PM
1

But the child is still related to the mother There is no biologically ingrained existential fear or anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:58 PM
1

Weirdest dude on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:44 AM
1

Actually it doesn't sound like a bad plan. In combo with mandatory paternity testing + removing all social welfare this would be a good thing. Also, deadbeat dads should be forced to support their biological children or put through hell, why the fuck would I want to contribute to raising some other man's child?
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 10:48 AM
1

You just need to be hurt enough that that part of you withers and dies Just realize that absolutely all creatures are self-centered and after only their own interests and even the woman who loves you can and will betray you when it is in her favor to do so
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 10:39 AM
2

That is absolutist thinking, humans do not have that much integrity and foresight (to know that they wouldn't choose differently under different circumstances)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:34 AM
2

I believe it is an experience that one cannot possibly understand until they go through it, I believe that caring for children is nearly sacred, it changes your thought and being
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 02:44 AM
2

I would love to have my own, biological children with a woman who I could trust I don't see that happening, won't settle for less, and so MGTOW
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 02:32 AM
9

Men with a weakness for women breed
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 02:30 AM
1

Even if there is a pendulum swing back, it won't look like the mirror image of what we have today, a lot of men will be ground into dust as they always have been
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:26 AM
-4

Loser men have no place in society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:20 AM
4

I would think a good amount of those men get roped back into the dating world when they enter a comfortable phase of their careers and women start to get long in the tooth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:17 AM
1

All you have is a moral judgement to back your statement up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:11 AM
1

I would still like to have a partner and children, I just am not counting on it and accept that if I can't keep my dignity I shouldn't pursue a relationship + children (which may not be mine) I find a lot more meaning in productivity and I put my nose to the grindstone working weekends and long hours, there is a sense of achievement when it is tied to a goal like working on a long-term project or appeasing a client I have a lot of respect for my profession, though it wasn't my first choice it is…
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 02:50 AM
2

The voice of reason in which women try to claim that "we're both wrong"
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 02:36 AM
3

Is this a troll post?
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 02:12 AM
3

Why can't women pull their own weight and improve themselves, or place some blame upon themselves?
/r/MGTOW23/04/19 01:38 AM
0

What incentive is there for that when women get uglier by the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:20 AM
3

Sounds like a revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:11 AM
1

Honestly this variance in time kinda is an argument against monogamy in my opinion, knowing that preferences don't hold doesn't inspire me to commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:09 AM
8

Well, some people just have poor bone structure and bad genes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:06 AM
1

It's the bare minimum until you are in your early 30s and realize that progress doesn't really exist and your options are slim
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:42 PM
2

Man is worker drone of the house
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 05:38 PM
2

Women's past virtue was always smoke and mirrors
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:23 PM
15

Why would I care exactly? Knowing this means nothing to me
/r/MGTOW20/04/19 02:10 AM
9

Yeah, there is nothing sacred in a woman being your mother My father has been going through some tough times lately, while my mother has lost a ton of weight She's cheating on him now Also I found out she's taken out credit cards in my name
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 08:40 AM
17

Exactly.
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 03:13 AM
40

Women rely on men being addicted to pussy, and being able to abuse them because of this addiction A heterosexual man with dignity is an anomaly
/r/MGTOW19/04/19 03:11 AM
0

Weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 02:45 AM
1

A lot of men are just willfully blind to cheating, they let things that really would be obvious if you really thought about it slide Being bluepilled has its benefits, and its drawbacks
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 01:45 AM
1

In my case, yes because I wanted to make sure any family I had was stable as I come from an unstable family, but I now see that 95% of people do not share my time horizon and don't see things the way I do and it will be difficult to find a partner who shares my life experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:44 PM
2

Yes, because everyone looks after their interests first and foremost, so would never tell their partner something truthful that might make them leave Given that I'd likely never bring it up and look for signs, also I would go nuclear if I saw even a hint of cheating or that I am being used (as I have done before) Why the quotes around being settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:42 PM
2

Taking responsibility for things that are not your fault is fucking retarded and against stoic philosophy You only take responsibility for the things you can control, and in that you take full responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:24 PM
2

It would give me the option to move on I'd rather be alone if I'm being settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:13 PM
10

It absolutely matters Women like to think they can reinvent themselves over night but character rarely changes and all of the baggage and rotting garbage in their lives will make an impact on their future relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:34 PM
1

Women are largely chameleons without integrity, they have no good qualities, they are all very surface level
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:06 AM
1

It's like you're denying him a theory of mind, like he is just a robotic male and should have automatic responses that are in line with his current identity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:42 AM
1

She attributes her failures in life to her "intelligence"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:36 AM
0

I've dated INTJ women and they are certainly led by feelings and emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:31 AM
1

Man, the desire to turn your brain off is what I really don't respect about you and women who share this thought
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:08 PM
0

If you are truly curious why not read this book? https://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Year-Disguised/dp/0143038702
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:03 PM
1

The most men will give each other is a "that sucks dude", "I've been there", and maybe a couple tips on how to improve their situation. And that is in the anonymous setting and among friends irl, stranger men will take joy in your failures You're on your own for the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:01 PM
0

Why would other men care? What value do men have to other men? I think you used the idea of women using each other as sounding boards in another post. Men do this too, but they do it on reddit or some other anonymous venue, probably because if they were to do this IRL they would be seen as weak and it would be used against them You don't seem to truly understand what it means to lack inherent value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 03:32 PM
1

Wonder what this idiot was thinking you were going to say
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 03:17 PM
1

Are women more attracted to the immutable or mutable traits of masculinity? Compare the grizzled, shorter than average, potato-faced but perfomatively masculine muscle manlet vs the tall, broad shouldered, masculine facial bone structure but totally unathletic and effete soyboy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:33 PM
1

I don't think body language is fundamentally, consciously controllable. I definitely make adjustments, but I do need to make adjustments. What is more helpful is taking care of your health (exercise, sleep, diet) and familiarity, that has a much bigger impact on my body language than any sort of learning and trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:27 PM
2

How are these men supposed to implement better body language when they have no social reinforcement for acting the way they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 11:51 AM
1

It will take a while for women to adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:54 AM
1

What's the problem in giving individual women practical advice in these kinds of situations, rather than throwing our hands up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:50 AM
1

Head on over to datingoverthirty and you'll see
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:41 AM
2

Men don't have much value outside of their provider ability So a single man is going to develop his ability to provide, so he can have a chance of not being single anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:35 AM
2

Let them and their bastard children die If you want a free for all SMP you get a free for all economy with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:14 AM
3

You can't hold single, working men responsible for others' children, if it comes down to it those children SHOULD starve, if you DO take from the single working man you are just further disincentivizing prosocial behavior Society needs a shock to pull it's head out of its ass
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 02:10 AM
1

You're implying men should feel guilty about their predatory nature, it's like asking women not to wonder if he's really the best she can do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:16 PM
1

Or have no problem with it 🖕🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:28 PM
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There is a predatory aspect in men wanting any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:27 PM
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I think men just have more psychological depth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:09 PM
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Women will legislate more safety nets to take care of their bastard children that they'll inevitably have until the strain on society is unbearable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:59 PM
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If it's the same for guys, no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:36 PM
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What I said was your husband has a past, you aren't the only person in his life, and it is reasonable to learn from experience I guess that would make him damaged goods though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:42 PM
1

Wow, you're a real winner!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:21 PM
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What if you're not the only person your husbands ever been with I've had women do the long con thing on me before, and I've had people very close to me betray me, I don't think any human is fully trusthworthy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:20 PM
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My mother also did this, $4000 and growing every month, just found out recently too
/r/MGTOW27/03/19 11:08 PM
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On average, I believe the "behind every great man..." quote to be true Lol my ex gf also tried to take credit for all accomplishments I made during our relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:57 PM
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Yeah, I think the thing that makes me most apprehensive about marriage is the lack of legal protections or privileges I have I would honestly rather have a child out of wedlock, or have the child or at least pregnancy come first before marriage I see a lot of women who want marriage but no children and to me that is baffling, I just don't see what I get out of that kind of deal, there is no point to marriage for me as a man in the absence of children to raise Also, already had some issues with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:49 PM
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Even if your gf works she is still going to spend her money, then your money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:39 PM
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No, when I'm that old why would I bother? I don't really need the companionship as most women aren't intellectually stimulating and are too much maintenance, I am my own company and women don't really add much to my life aside from intimacy and sex and older women aren't really appealing sexually to most men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 07:08 PM
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Bootcamps are bullshit and the time period is too short to get any good Why do you suppose that every bootcamp graduate should be able to find a job anyway? Maybe that is more of an indicator how many 'tards are in your friend group?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:53 AM
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I have known female teachers and those with STEM careers that I respect Generally they aren't pretty though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:28 PM
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50 year old bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:25 PM
1

Nursing and law enforcement are known to fuck people up Seeing that every day play
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:18 PM
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No wonder you're so cold and fucked up Also what does it matter if your job is more physical, the median man is still stronger than 99% of women, no amount of physical labor is going to change the impact of testosterone and man's potential
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:13 PM
2

u mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 05:10 PM
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In this situation the man doesn't really care what you think, the violence is instrumental Really only a beta would care what goes on in a woman's mind anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:57 AM
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Do you think that there are enough hours in the day to hit all these things 100% and still be an interesting person with a wandering mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:45 AM
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Sexual strategy is amoral, I've seen men use fear and physical violence as a (risky) element of sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:53 PM
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Given men are still fertile, plenty of men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:54 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:53 AM
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Dude if you don't understand the difference after studying in uni, you are no intellectual
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:30 AM
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No, that never goes well If you're that infatuated with a woman it's a bad, bad sign
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:21 AM
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Ah you have it both ways, excellent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 12:02 AM
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Are we talking attraction for sex, or attraction for sex + a family and biological children? Women past 40 are pretty much useless for the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:33 PM
1

Lol about what? This is the deep truth, not the feminine realm of appearances
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:31 PM
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No one invented civilization, it arose organically and is a hierarchy of power. We are no different from animals truly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:21 PM
1

Who house trained him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:05 PM
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One of the things I've learned in my life is that statistics are moving targets, what is true for one generation (on which the statistics are based) may not be true for another Best example of this is educational attainment for millennials
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:02 PM
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Okay, you must have recently picked up this hammer and everything now has to fit in this conceptual framework, eventually you'll see how you are limiting yourself or just give up I do not disagree with you that genes and genetics correspond to some kind of truth about how the world works or anything like that, I just think you are putting the cart before the horse in giving what are theories of the world precedence over your direct experience, and that these things that you believe will deaden y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:06 AM
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I think you are begging the question wrt your abstractions (you take your mechanistic philosophy as fact, and place it before your experience, rather than taking some other philosophy to be true or suspending judgement as to what way the world is entirely) Thought and analysis or awareness did come before genes and genetics (I was not born with this knowledge, I learned about it through observation and books) experientially, for all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:30 AM
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Evolutionary biology, like all science, is an abstraction, it is a pattern that we have recognized and imagined There exists first and foremost our awareness, our intention, our will, and so on - these precede our abstractions of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:17 AM
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There is intention, we are all intentional beings, as are all living beings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:53 AM
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Superior social skill isn't even that a good part of the time, it is just leveraging their reproductive value, women have an advantage socially because men want to fuck them so they have a bargaining chip - not because of any inherent advantage in socialization Most women are boring af and not great conversationalists, just status whores Also makes sense, only men who are covering new ground get to breed, women can and do easily fill out positions in society that don't require much independent t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:44 AM
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Yeah no one would go into this if it didn't make good money Not only does it make good money, but you don't have to destroy your body doing it. Blue collar work is not fucking fun when you are in your 40s and 50s, obviously OP is a fucking loser nerd himself and knows nothing about working class people's lives
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 02:57 PM
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Yes, women who go for "Alphas" are selecting against traits that are good for civilization Men that spread their genes far and wide are extremely attractive on a genetic level to women because she hopes that she can hitch a ride on this dude's caddish genes and have her's spread through their cad offspring This does not mean that the "Alpha" is better than the "Beta", the "Beta" may very well be a better individual in fitness, intellect, and in genetics in certain ways, etc. but if inhibited wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 02:02 PM
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Everything that you do is selfish and there is nothing wrong with selfishness to a degree, you need to be selfish (take care of yourself) to live, and even in striving for tranquility you are seeking to minimize your suffering and live the best possible life as you see it Arguments about selfishness when you come at it at such a broad angle to me are absolutely meaningless I still maintain that to have children is the source of any kind of altruism, self-sacrifice, and future orientation. Any so…
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 07:01 PM
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Adoption is not an option, I want biological children. The closest thing I'll come to is adopting a relative's child or investing in my extended family in general I'm not a fucking charity
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 02:28 PM
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What kind of grave, irredeemable mistake would it take for you to leave someone out in the cold? Sure, the latter sounds okay, if we are talking about a truly voluntary organization. It would be rough for a while until the abject poverty becomes visible before almsgiving becomes commonplace again but it would be a very positive change, would force the dregs of society to adopt prosocial behavior (because they are relying on others' good will), and would be a necessary and needed correction as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 05:22 AM
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I would say that having children is a portal to unselfishness, that if anything can transform you or really instill forward-thinking attitudes and beliefs it is having children It may be good to let go of the desire, to confront the reality of not having children (at least, if you can't provide them the conditions you'd like), but these desires are something that always returns
/r/MGTOW18/02/19 05:22 AM
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Outside of sexuality, I think that men should work as much as they possibly can, make as much money as they possibly can, and invest it into their extended family. Don't be a slug, jack up the price of goods (especially luxury goods) by increasing demand, increase wealth inequality. Men have the endurance and object-intelligence to vastly outearn the average woman, put it to use regardless of how sexually successful you might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 05:11 AM
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Well, we should stop propping up people with low FTO and let them die like nature intends Remove the welfare state
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:58 PM
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What if you want children? There's no other way around it but to learn how to deal with women
/r/MGTOW17/02/19 11:13 PM
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You're just naive to think they don't fuck around on the side, or are too old to be fucking around
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 11:02 PM
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Women may not be attracted to neurotic men, but they are attracted to money (or your nice body, or your high status career), which can be a product of your neuroticism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:53 PM
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If you mean the barest possible existence that is just merely existing, women haven't needed men for a long while now If you want to raise decent children, give them decent and relatively happy lives, you need a father in the picture If you don't want your kid to be made fun of for wearing the cheapest clothes and eating cheap fatty foods, you need a father to provide that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:36 PM
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Lol, you can't be both It is incredibly foolish to think you can be every god damn thing at every point in your life People have times in their lives, AFTER they've built themselves up, where they loosen up and party and THAT is when they start getting attention from women They either wind up with an accidental pregnancy, or they fuck their life up and have to rebuild Very few people can CONSISTENTLY keep their balance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:35 PM
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Women love it when you flash your cash and start spending, it means they can get in on the goods Women and people are more stupid and primitive than they'd like you to believe, they are using their cave brains and not their high fto brains
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:32 PM
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True, women's power is almost 100% rooted in their sexuality and male desire, without male desire women are POWERLESS If women had to compete with men on a totally desexualized, sociopathic level, what exactly do people think would happen? In physical strength and in cognitive fields that have to deal with objects men are simply superior, there would be no contest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 06:10 PM
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If we're talking about benefits she shouldn't, or should downplay it In fact she should live in fear that it might come up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 11:33 PM
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Racism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 11:31 PM
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Women have said the exact same thing here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:27 PM
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The latter is so bad most self-respecting men will simply not take it and go without
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:17 PM
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Not possible. Women are an order of magnitude more egoistic than men, with sexual value but physical vulnerability that only dials it up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:04 AM
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So you think that more societal pressure will make men not want to become women? Stupid post, you're an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 01:26 AM
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I agree, this knowledge is poisonous for men and society tbqh It kills any desire to have a family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 05:30 AM
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My grandfather was a criminal Alpha and his emotionally unstable genes poisoned me and my father, and had repercussions on my family for generations I'm better because I care about the wellbeing of any future children I may have (and want to have) and watch my actions and behavior for their sake
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 04:15 AM
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In that case it is better to just invest in your extended family, and leave those women and their children impoverished
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 03:17 AM
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Men were never meant to know that this: 'I'm going to work hard while women gain validation and attention from potentially hundreds of men thanks to social media and online dating, then only be good enough after she cannot get her first choice...' Would happen, and this is nothing new but information was never as free as it is now They (this sort of man) was meant to believe in romantic fables and that women are inscrutable and mysterious beings Really, for a man women's humanity (hypergamy) is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:55 AM
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Hmm, to be a normie is to not have an identity? "Normies" get their identity from their social milieu, are you any less of a sheep having derived your identity from obscure Internet subcultures? You only did so because you were rejected by and/or scared of others, it does not make you superior in any way shape or form, and I doubt that you put any more thought into your identity (or maybe you did - you had a lot of time, being alone, to think about such things and find anything to dull that pain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 11:26 PM
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I don't have these problems, can't relate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:47 PM
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No you are not, that is quite young, especially for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:57 PM
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Loser mentality I'm at a much different place now than I was as a teenager, growth is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:24 AM
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No, men can deal with pain, they just like to get some care from their woman once in a while so play it up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:58 AM
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You are turbo gay, you are not a good example, I will even conjecture with enough alcohol or empathogens you will and probably have gone gay on occasion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:47 AM
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Well it's a good thing men have more collagen and don't experience aging the same way women do then There is a REASON men don't wear makeup, we simply do not have to because of our biology
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:46 AM
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Real men typically are very single-minded, we can only concentrate on one topic at a time, but we penetrate deep I've only just recently started using lotion and lib balm after years of parched skin, and even then I don't do this daily but the 1 day a week I decide I will dress nice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 01:22 AM
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So long as they are men, who are subhuman in her eyes bc her ex husband hurt her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 01:18 PM
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Being top 20% in everything is as difficult as being say top 5% or top 1% in a few different things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 02:53 AM
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Remove
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 08:55 PM
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I don't consider using all the tools available to you to be unnatural, the way society is is not because of some kind of beneficence but is a result of the collective struggle of all against all and this is the stable state, once you get comfortable and stop advocating for yourself it will all fall away, you will be domesticated and eventually put on a path to extinguishment
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:12 PM
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Yes I'd agree that a STR could have emotional value, but it is more valuable for the man than the woman given the work that is put into acquiring it (like a successful hunt), it only devalues the woman as it is only a hedonistic escape in this case. I would think less of a woman that gets a STR and would not a man for these reasons. The specifics you are getting into are uninteresting to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:09 PM
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No, we did not create a society, it grew organically People don't think it be like it is, but it do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:03 PM
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Dying young too, and you also expect to be seen as a tragic figure, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:58 PM
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Don't know what you are talking about, any relations that don't have the potential to end up in children are worthless IMO In this case if you play these games it's better for men not to commit and keep their options open until you are already pregnant, perhaps not even then, those who can't get children under this state of affairs would serve themselves best by acquiring resources and giving them not to women but to their family (ie tribe) The needy women without husbands and their children wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:51 PM
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Your womb and reproductive system are worth more than our reproductive system, your body is useless and inferior. A man that develops himself (and men have a much higher ceiling for self-development both physically and cognitively/mentally) is worth more than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:28 PM
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Sure, help others, but they have to want to be helped and I will not go out of my way to help anybody unless it will somehow benefit me People are better served and better serve society when they focus on setting good examples (first and foremost there should be a focus on the family in terms of values and all else falls out from that) and developing themselves Ultimately every man is an island, and should be a center of power and mastery over themselves and nature, the excess and development of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:21 PM
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Universal meaning is out of our grasp, we can only speculate. In fact I believe that when you sense a lack of meaning, this is a signal that you are not living in a way that promotes life and you should abandon what you are doing. You (rather this is what I do for myself) should progress toward living the best possible life you can, toward pursuing your personal Good. I don't think that the ego is necessarily evil or bad, I don't think it is bad that it returns, it just gets out of hand and puff…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:15 PM
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That you (I mean this impersonally) need a teacher, or at least a defined one (as opposed letting the world be your teacher and actively participating in the struggle of life), betrays a weak, childlike and/or feminine mind (also it is no surprise that women are so much more self-centered than men when you consider this, so much more emotional, and would explain why the Buddha for example hesitated on letting women into his circle). In my mind there is no darkness, the demons are meant to be har…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:12 PM
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Yeah, I've read into Buddhism a bit, I believe that these things one can discover on one's own (and not only this, but that they can be arrived at independently speaks to the truth in them), and these texts are just aids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 08:02 PM
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She is childless, I'd consider that a grave lack of success
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 07:20 PM
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I do not subscribe to any particular philosophy or ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 07:20 PM
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Also visualization, in other spheres of human thought
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:25 PM
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In practice it is a softening of attachment, and a process, you need to learn to let go of things you cannot control and will need to do so through your life long Ego never dies for long, it always returns to press you onward. It is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is a mark of immaturity that it inflates and in those cases you need to strangle it, perhaps with a heroic dose of psychedelics. Failing to do so, you become locked in anxiety and watch as the world leaves you behind and those mega…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:10 PM
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Millennials can't deal, refuse to let their ego die, and will just hole themselves up instead comforted by the glow of a screen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:00 PM
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Yes it would be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:46 PM
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Okay, you aren't really established then You could be mentored on your approach to research, on the tools that other historians use, it doesn't have to be about your exact topic I think I'll end our conversation here as honestly I'm not interested in talking to people who are still students. You shouldn't even be discussing something that has nothing to do with your vocation, we are talking about the world of business not academia
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:05 PM
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If you're a researcher then your job is creative Unless you are just a lab tech, which is what it sounds like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:58 PM
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With this personality I don't think she'd find the opportunity to scam anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:54 PM
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You have a formal idea of a mentor-mentee relationship, I don't necessarily see it as a formal relationship or something that is even one way. A mentor-mentee relationship comes into being when someone really outranks you, or has much more experience than you do in a field or activity, I could be mentored in for example public speaking while I could mentor someone in tech and approaching problems. When you help someone with a task you will notice whether they are just totally clueless or not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:46 PM
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Yes, balls in is the best way to learn, I'm 4 years into my career and make work my life. I'm not saying a mentor-mentee relationship has to be something formalized but tbh that is the only way women will probably get them. You can be both teacher and student to the same person, it's all about your ego and self perception. If you work in the corporate work on collaborative projects, you should kill your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:39 PM
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You probably don't work in creative, white collar work or in research then. The tasks I do change every day, and I may be expected to work on something I've never seen or touched before In the sort of work I do, everyone eventually specializes, to be a rude cunt when someone comes to you asking for your expertise is just hurting the company. Check your ego at the door Yes there are people who will fail, and no I don't think the mentor-mentee relationship needs to be formalized
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:05 PM
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Ah okay, it's just your ego then Personally I'm a bit more senior (in experience, not time spent in the company), I'm a workaholic and work weekends, I'll freely share and mentor those who I recognize as having less experience and knowledge as me and I expect the same from any man in the workplace But it isn't formalized in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:01 PM
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Women like a certain amount of thirst and will go for the thirsty guys over a guy who is capable of completely repressing his thirst That thirst is what drives men to approach women, and makes them manipulable, hence a woman can enter a relationship rather than merely have transactional exchanges with them Women like their men thirsty and at their mercy in terms of sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:51 PM
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Is that the case in your mind, or their actual policy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:49 PM
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How so? No one knows and is good at everything, do you work in a field where once you've completed your education you are done learning? I don't, so it stands that I can gain by mentoring Maybe you just feel vulnerability in the mentor-mentee relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:48 PM
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Taste is subjective, I prefer INTENSE and acrid spice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:33 AM
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That or as in my case, they will eat things that others find inedible
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:03 AM
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I like food I've started to cook for myself more I use an amount of spice (garlic, red onion, peppers, ginger, lots of acid and various other spices and spice mixes) that makes me shit hot 🔥 Other men can't really handle my spice level and I know from experience women have weak guts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:01 AM
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You are just ignoring your own blindspots, you're treating your man as a trophy in a different way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:05 PM
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Fuck off with your ego and butthurt pl0x
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:02 PM
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Whatever, 🖕
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:55 PM
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Maybe if you were actually good at it and not there for the paycheck and the prestige of the job you'd be taken seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 12:26 PM
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You are autistic, 🖕
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:29 AM
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Because AWALT is practical and not LITERALLY AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:22 AM
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But that's not the majority of women Those women are outliers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:21 AM
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I agree, career women are a mixed bag as far as looks, and incredibly machiavellian which is a huge turnoff when made obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:58 AM
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So long as you recognize that tone is decoupled from the argument itself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:51 AM
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Both the person and the argument were attacked, in this case you are tone policing If you want just outright permaban me, I don't give a flying fuck about this board, its posters, or whether my contributions are constructive or enlightening and I have expressed this multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 03:50 AM
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No, that is a moralistic judgement you are making and has nothing to do with the argument itself, you are merely tone policing Nice lawerly rhetorical move though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 01:07 AM
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Maybe you need to take some remedial courses and work on your reading comprehension what rape or assault victim who came forward against a celebrity has actually benefited from it? i can't think of one. I am saying that I doubt you can think of more than 5, I doubt you could think of a representative sample and will be vulnerable to confirmation bias in the few you do recall, and so this comment is worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:53 PM
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How many purported sexual assault victims can you name off the top of your head? Likely not a representative sample
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:48 PM
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How many can you name off the top of your head benefit or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:46 PM
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Because they make bad tenants and destroy his property?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 08:54 AM
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I am defiant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:10 AM
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Think through it you dumb bitch If women cheat less than men it must be single women who are sleeping with paired men which is hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:09 AM
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I don't see any moral good in the women not cheating part, those who are not technically cheating are just practicing hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:05 AM
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Well, it Western society won't last it will be destroyed by another society
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:02 AM
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I think the pendulum will swing in a direction which does not favor women as this will be the zeitgeist that favors humanity overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:00 AM
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I respect the role of the father as the highest attainable by men, I respect fathers but have not reached it myself (though have had some near misses), failing fatherhood I accept a surrogate role as a benefactor to my extended family, I'll never be a woman's pawn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uF3x_MBEa4
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:25 AM
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I come from a very masculine oriented family, my grandfather was a straight up bandit, thief, drug dealer, and thug who has been to prison and I suspect has been raped given his depressive and resigning attitude who lives with one of his ex-girlfriends in the middle of the woods (and I do not respect him as an educated man), and my father is a hardworking soldier and manual laborer, while I am a college educated and very serious (though proudly tall and handsome) priestly caste that is attemptin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:10 AM
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No, but I am oriented toward fatherhood and have a father who I have intellectually surpassed yet respect who I desire to honor I recognize that it is possible I have not reached this fatherly level, I do not have the patience or acceptance for others, I am focused on myself for the sake of my children or nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:01 AM
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Then there is no sentiment for them, we simply leave them behind, they had not the mental or physical strength to reach the next level and it behooves the fatherly man to leave this fact in silence despite showing the way for the boy I am of the opinion that the father must kill the ego, but as that poster mentioned I am fairly New Age If one accepts one's annihilation, one's wildest dreams and success necessarily accompanies it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:53 AM
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I fully agree, this is the boundary between man and woman and the point at which men leave women behind and the justication for man's existential equality (or superiority) with women despite their reproductive lack ​ I believe in men, but only those who fully embrace the existential struggle, we are the arbiters and creators of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:38 AM
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I cannot parse your meaning atm but the spirit of a man is to overcome his fears and his limits and you are already on that path and I can only give you well wishes as is the most you can expect of your fellow man, and I encourage you to check your chat
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:28 AM
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Sure, but though New Age I have a strict mentality, one must reach their absolute existential limits first, and as a man I encourage you to confront death and failure and accept them if they may come
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:12 AM
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Only when you push yourself to your limits can you accept yourself, this is self-actualization, when one has reached this stage one can finally reach self-acceptance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:09 AM
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I suspect your level of discipline drives you similarly, no man would push themselves purely for themself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:02 AM
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As I said I understand to an extent but the fatherly, pro-human drive prevails, I believe optimization of a male human life lies in the balance between these desires
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 02:57 AM
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I agree to an extent, I don't think the independent life is necessarily a life not worth living, you can contribute much to humanity (and the fatherly instinct desires this) as say Newton or Tesla have done so but I believe my appetitive instincts are a tad too strong and end up favoring women and family more than pure masculinity (which is intellectual and women can never understand) and children more than their achievements
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 02:51 AM
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That's a moralistic judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 03:37 AM
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A cunt, a womb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:18 AM
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You're just undereducated, Esau is a biblical figure In fact I'm not religious, though spiritual, heavily into psychedelics. Partially because of my psychedelic experiences I feel no need to be or appear consistent I practice apoliteia, I don't subscribe to any particular political ideology except for pragmatic reasons though I am in favor of a sort of Jeffersonian democracy I do not trust women, but I still want a family and the best possible life for my children, I will not compromise on this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 02:56 AM
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I'm grinding away for that family, it is either that or nothing and I accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 01:55 AM
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They tolerate or even play them in the younger generations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:42 AM
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Continue this thread Who will raise the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 02:00 AM
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Your child would be fucked without two incomes and a father
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:12 PM
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Women do like kind gestures, once they're on the hook you pull away, people start to get anxious and wonder why you are suddenly doing this and soon after their thoughts are filled with you The black and white thinking is a matter of inexperience
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:09 PM
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If you want nice things that is still the case Sorry you live in the real world and everything isn't just handed to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:04 PM
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Not personally but society-wide and they very well could have used their sexuality in their youth to get where they are today As well as raw sex appeal, I mean something deeper in leveraging their reproductive value
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:59 PM
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Women like being treated like dirt because they are treated like dirt by men who are their equal or superior, that is hypergamy You can't just treat women like dirt for no fucking reason, if you are a bottomfeeder you should NOT be treating women like dirt in the hopes of getting laid because it will not work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:18 PM
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Yes, because women have leveraged their sexual value to put themselves into positions of power Half the population are women, and enough men are thirsty enough or whipped enough to be captured in women's frame and vote in their interest, perhaps overtly out of a sense of righteous virtue and covertly in the hopes that by pursuing women's collective interests over men's in these instances they will individually benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:03 PM
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It's not actually easy for a woman to fulfill her hypergamous desires from a reproductive standpoint, most women who choose to be part of a harem and have children with such men will be on their own as far as provisioning goes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 11:54 AM
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Yes, women leverage their sexual power, really this is their only power and women's supposed superiority at relationships and social skills are really just a result of this use of sexual power and leveraging their innate reproductive value rather than ability, skill, or technique
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 11:28 AM
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Sounds like something a college student would say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 05:58 PM
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Do you think that’s pressure has stopped? It hasn’t Single men who exist in social circles that are mostly inhabited by couples are dangerous, the stigma is a social defense mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:28 PM
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TBH it makes a lot of sense if this were true, given how much she hates men and considers them inferior, disposable, etc. Would make a lot of sense if she had some past issues she hasn't worked through
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:36 PM
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Well, you don’t know what it is like to be a man and be emotionally brutalized
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:59 PM
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IMO I agree but I believe women are considered in touch with their feelings and socially adept not because of any inherent skill of theirs but because of their possession of something men don’t have, a womb, which gives them inherent value beyond a man and hence they have a much easier time socializing because they have something of value to offer right off the bat More often than not (and it can be seen here) women are operating at and leveraging a higher level of sexual power rather than being…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:58 PM
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What exactly do you mean that there is no such thing as consciousness, why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 07:17 AM
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We no longer believe in love
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/01/19 06:03 AM
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You are speaking for yourself, probably because you can't get a high value man's commitment, so you devalue it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:50 AM
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Not even my own mother will own up to her mistakes unless directly confronted and forced to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:47 AM
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Men do age, but due to biological differences between the sexes the physical impact of aging for things like skin and wrinkles isn't nearly as bad. Men look youthful for longer. Take away an older woman's makeup and moisturizer and what do you have left?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:46 AM
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I don't believe that you as an experiencing being are just along for the ride, you consciously make decisions that impact your life and the form that life takes in future generations (and whether you will have any progeny), who are constrained by these choices Evolution as a concept is something that is in a way dreamt up by consciousness, consciousness is prior to this and all concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:24 AM
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Evolution is driven by conscious actions at some point in time Evolution is dreamt up by consciousness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:59 AM
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I'm assuming high AQ people aren't actually autistic and we are referring to Internet autism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:43 PM
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Why would people like people who aren't responsive to normal human signals? Not to say I'm not on the side of the autists but it does justify the hatred and/or disdain for autists who won't play ball
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:39 PM
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Can already tell your relationshit will not last And he took you to Texas Roadhouse...Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:23 PM
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You are withholding empathy and care from objectively weak and not well off people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:20 PM
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God you are a petty bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:05 PM
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Have you told your fiancée your feelings about this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:04 PM
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I am denying that they are simply acting against their own interests, I say that they see no path forward for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 02:54 PM
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Why would someone not want to enjoy the time they have here You're a bullshitter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 06:09 AM
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I suffered a gunshot wound, could have been part of that statistic and it probably dropped my smv 0.5-1 points
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:48 AM
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Oh no I have a desk job I'm not physically tired, maybe mentally but even that isn't so bad to me right now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 09:55 PM
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Yeah same, I threw myself into the struggle so that I could support a family and now earn a high wage but am just tired now and am starting to think I don't want a family, I'm not looking forward to any of the bullshit I'd have to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:36 PM
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Well the birth ratio is 1.05 male to 1 female before we introduce the concept of polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:04 PM
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That's a pretty stupid idea These countries are corrupt and barbaric compared to the West
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 05:40 PM
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More sex to partners with little social risk for him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 12:11 AM
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I don't doubt that these things happened She admits to being like a 3-4 and I've got to think something is horribly wrong with her for her to subject herself to that, but women's self-esteem is largely tied up in appearance and at least if a guy fucks you you must pass some minimum threshold so I guess it is validating for ugly girls in that way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:25 PM
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Why is it a problem, why not just let them rot and do their own thing? Why are we seeing posters here pressure others to perform in prosocial ways? Are you seeing some kind of loss to you in their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:24 PM
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That she can provide for herself is only theoretical
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:04 PM
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Those aren't single dads, those are deadbeat dads
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:43 PM
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Single moms often expect others to pick up their slack and are socially parasitic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:15 PM
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You have a limited ability to create the world you want You are patronizing and positizoning yourself as the prize as an undesirable 30 something Your posts reek of overly optimistic new age bullshit that I am not interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:27 PM
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Men lie to themselves too, especially when young and horny It's harder to keep up the lies nowadays Lots of beta men still breed, but at the price of an unenviable life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:34 PM
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Men aren't supposed to know about these different rules IMO, that's one of the things that has really changed due to how cheap information is nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:27 PM
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That's not to say you aren't looking for a tough guy, just that you don't think you are a basic bitch and can hang with such a guy, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:24 AM
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Why did you mention former drug dealer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 08:07 AM
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That doesn't seem to be happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 07:16 AM
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Stop aiming high then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:30 AM
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That's kinda your fault for picking that sort of man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:27 AM
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So you are willing to adopt your man's principles?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 07:37 PM
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The individual woman isn't going to change this herself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:30 PM
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Until they see her without it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:58 PM
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Women do not have the productive capacity that men have
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 06:09 AM
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I don't think balding is ever a thing that makes a man look distinguished
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 11:44 PM
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They actually work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:43 PM
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As long as you are okay with that, personally I won't consider women who are having second thoughts about remaining old for the rest of their lives at an older age when I can just gamble on a younger woman or remain alone myself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:17 AM
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Not if you starve them first, or they'd be ineffective weaklings from a lifetime of malnutrition anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:21 AM
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What about women with families and commitments that cheat on their husbands who are going through a rough time (say they have to work nights and it is taking a toll on them)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:57 AM
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Then the democratic system can collapse under the strain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:35 AM
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Well the guy implies he has sexual energy, saying he is low T is a thought-stopping cliche, should be evident in how many BPs are rushing to the claim as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:34 AM
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They could vote and let the bastards starve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:25 AM
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Very easy and uninteresting way to dismiss his arguments and experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:17 AM
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The state is made of people fool
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:01 PM
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IMO men should keep enough distance to safely set women who stop putting out aside
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:50 PM
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What does "don't be an abusive asshole" mean? Like, don't cut my allowance just because I'm not sleeping with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:47 PM
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That was my father, cavalry scout
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:48 PM
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You merely choose not to recognize the power dynamic that is present in say the vast differences in size and physical strength
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:34 AM
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Externalize the consequences to someone else (like taxpayers)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 07:14 PM
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Many people (women) would like freedom from the consequences of their choices a well
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:39 PM
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Internet autism is a different thing than actual autism Most people don't know what actual autism looks like and can't differentiate it from OCD or normal human variation because they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 02:30 PM
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Your code is retarded and incoherent to me, we don't agree on definitions, why do you think I should hold onto your personal code?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 05:08 AM
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Eh that's not my definition, there actually has to be some gain to snitching, and I'd say some complicity in the crime involved Also men are not involved here so there is no code to uphold
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:59 AM
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Not like they can do anything about it or there will be any consequences for the rat Is it really ratting if the person reporting it isn't somehow party to the crime? That's whistleblowing, not ratting, it just happens to inconvenience you in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:39 AM
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All other men are potential romantic rivals I'm not even interested forming friendships with other males unless they can benefit me in some way, say if we are in the same profession and I admire their skills I don't care about other men's feelings and am likely to avoid a man who is incontinent with his emotions I will actively distance myself from pathetic men who try to tell me about their feelings unless our relationship is clearly one in which I am a sort of mentor (thinking of two guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 04:36 AM
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Does it matter if it comes from a place from vindictiveness? That hoe owes tax
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:27 AM
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I'm viscerally attracted to brown girls with feminine, white girl bone structure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 11:52 PM
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They have something to lose because of their values
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:10 PM
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I don't think women's sexual selection is necessarily a good thing, particularly where sexual selection occurs where other selection pressures (the pressure to actually be economically productive rather than just preening) are light or non-existent. Runaway sexual selection can pose an existential risk to a species, say if traits selected for during a time of plenty by females make life difficult to impossible for the male due to a rapid change in the environment, if all males were selected for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 05:54 AM
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They reduce it, and you may be placed in the middle class by virtue of income but not hold traditionally middle class values, which if held produce middle class people and families even in people not born middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 02:51 AM
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Men who cheat are as mentioned low value or do not have middle class values
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 01:28 AM
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If nothing has changed (and from certain perspectives nothing has changed as far as human nature goes) then traditionalism would win out The trouble traditionalism has is that people who are traditionalist can't tell those aspects of life that are nearly unchanging from those that are arbitrary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:21 PM
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What if women are attracted to multiple things in men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:13 PM
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What does commitment and romance look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 12:37 AM
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Yeah, there is no magic involved, I for one doubt that general AI will ever be a thing even in the far future but you have people making arguments coming across as them banking on the singularity being right around the corner All that sci-fi bullshit is just cringy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 09:35 PM
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No sex, no feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:45 PM
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Nah, that's a bullshit illusion women want to keep up just so they can squeeze as much out of men as possible Women who don't put out aren't worth it, women should be demonstrating their value by being good partners instead of being Keeper of the Pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:09 PM
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If you did that you'd actually have to stick by your partner for the benefit of your children Very anti-individualistic. No, just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 02:40 PM
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This, I definitely want low N but she has to put out for me early and often
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:38 AM
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Hence the term the juice isn't worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:13 AM
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Then they can share a man, which is ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 01:02 AM
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Why is the quality of life of a random bastard child any of my concern?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 12:50 AM
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Well sorry, it does
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 12:18 AM
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Not every woman is capable of this, many are not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:19 PM
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I've got my formula and it works
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:26 PM
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Does it just not come into play then at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:21 PM
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Obviously I haven't found one that is up to my standards and willing to have the sort of relationship I want I don't feel any pressing need to get into that relationship right now, if I don't get into that relationship I can invest the time in myself and my career The advice to be explicit about this is poisonous so I would appreciate it if you kept your advice to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:19 PM
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The toys and travel do attract women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:35 PM
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Are you black?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:34 PM
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Like I said, none of this should be talked about explicitly She can acknowledge this by being more deferential and feminine, which in my experience is the norm when the balance of power is in the male's favor There are enough women that are interested in this arrangement, and it's not like I advertise that this is the way it is going to be, I test and wait
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:46 PM
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Your curiosity is going to go unsated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:43 PM
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You are projecting female interests and desires into me Subjectively, if lower income and professional success also comes with deference and submissiveness and attractive feminine qualities and let's me buy a more attractive woman then lower income and professional success has positive relationship value At the end of the day it is a relationship, and I am not female and don't have female needs and desires, I want to be looked up to. I do not want an equal partner who just brings more of the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:43 PM
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You know how to pick a winner
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:01 AM
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It means if you fuck with me I will yank the rug out from underneath you I had a relationship in which there was a large income disparity, none of this was explicitly stated and I never made much of it other than being the final arbiter for any large purchases given it would be my money being spent and any help I got from her (say for trips) would be a token. I believe she puffed herself up (attempting to act as if the future accomplishments she imagined for herself were real today) so the mater…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:51 AM
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hicklibs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:22 AM
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wtf is this "equality as individuals" bullshit This sounds like some bullshit argument for womens' intrinsic value that they would never extend to men, or even if notionally asserted would never yield any concrete, material advantages for men as such an argument does for women In fact this leads me to think that women think that their intrinsic value as incubators makes up for any shortcomings they have as agents and productive partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:10 AM
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I don't know many women with better careers, I'm white collar and most of my coworkers who actually get shit done and make a big impact are men. I've dated a couple women with better careers, I was a foot taller than one of them so made up for it in other ways. She in particular was not able to keep up at her company (being the type that was really good at studying and not so much thinking and learning on her feet) and last I heard was seeking other work in a different field.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:20 AM
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This. I earn a fairly high wage and it is growing bigger year by year as I hop jobs and gain titles and experience. My money is part of my sexual value and I value it insofar as it can either directly or indirectly impact my value as a mate, but I definitely relish schooling coworkers who've been working at the company three times as long and know half as much and having the ability to give the middle finger to my employers because I actually am good at what I do and looked after my career over …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:05 AM
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When you lose your value (say, with age), shouldn't a man chuck you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 12:02 PM
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So long as you raise your own children with your own blood and sweat (money) that's perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 11:54 AM
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Not a worthwhile tradeoff for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 10:17 PM
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Tight skin
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:33 PM
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In practice, in the real world, other people are picking up the check for men who spread their seed, and men who spread their seed rather than invest in their family are primally attractive because they are more reproductively successful, even if that success comes with a weaker society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:54 PM
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Women can get away with being a net burden in relationships solely by possessing a pussy/womb
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:29 AM
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You aren't bringing in enough money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:19 AM
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I ain't doing no chores but I earn more than 90% of people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:16 AM
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You're older though, I doubt you are looking to have any more children
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:15 AM
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I am of the understanding that most (male) friendships are shallow and that your friends are willing to fuck you over at any time. The character of male friendships bears that out, we bond over shared activities, not feelings, and its better that way because no one gives two shits about your problems, we are just looking for a way to pass the time or get ahead. Many times you are only friends with someone by chance of being in the same place at the same time, like at school or work, and you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:02 AM
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The 3 Fs Fuck me Feed me Be faithful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:48 AM
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The OP gave me egoistic, feminine vibes, didn't figure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:44 AM
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What does a good conversation look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:41 AM
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Are you new here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:32 AM
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Deep dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 03:36 AM
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So you think that there will be men who are not only good looking but have nice jobs who won't make more demands on you at an older age than your prior bfs why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 05:23 PM
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If it was a choice, everyone would choose optimally
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:29 PM
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What do you have to offer in terms of friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:40 AM
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I was because I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:37 AM
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For all that studying and hard work, yes, men do expect better If you don't invest in us, why should we give a fuck about you and not just use you as a cocksleeve?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:35 AM
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That's such stupid bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:32 AM
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You can't even spell Hapsburg right Opinion discarded
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 03:30 AM
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Wow that's a pretty dumb opinion, no one wants to support a teen single mom with their tax dollars, and no one want to take care of your bastard spawn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:07 AM
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Why would you want to seek out a partner from as different a genetic population as possible? What if you had an advantageous recessive allele, like blue eyes, wouldn't you want to breed with someone that has those alleles so that your children will also have blue eyes? Inbreeding leads to speciation, it's not so cut and dry, your Darwinism game is SHIT
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:05 AM
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It's retarded to think that all people will be able to meet these pressures Something a young and inexperienced person would believe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:01 AM
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Good, sublimate those desires bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 06:59 AM
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Lol are you still young You don't get to choose or refuse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 06:54 AM
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Women are not as self-reliant
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 06:53 AM
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Should have had kids
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:29 PM
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Yep, millennials are the sacrificed ones
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:26 PM
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They're busy lying to themselves so that they can lie to others more easily
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 10:19 AM
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No, it won't be okay and there will be a record number of never-marrieds, single mothers, and broken families They'll all expect productive, successful people go carry them through life through voting for a $15 minimum wage, or mandatory 18% tips and 3% health and welfare charge, for example Those who have bought into the shittiness and can't keep it bottled up and in, will always expect handouts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 05:47 AM
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That's a misunderstanding of why these relations came about. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 10:51 PM
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Because the incentives aren't there. People follow incentives, if there are no rewards/punishments for following the social programming or if the rewards amount to a pat on the back, then people won't follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:53 AM
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Men don't look after men's collective interests the way that women look after women's collective interests Men contribute to society through their labor, but don't enjoy the fruits to the same degree that women (and children) do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:18 AM
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I'm not proposing anything greater than that people understand basic biology Start with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:40 PM
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