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DebateEuphoricBrightTipper/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:33 AM
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Fortunately not, even less when I started using a pill... but sadly most of men are indeed desperate enough to keep an economy for these women parasitizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:27 PM
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Hard to say yes to a tattooed single mom with debt. Only worthy for sex when you are too desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:44 AM
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Single older Women just need to increase their dosage of antidepressants to cope, which is astronomically high compared to other demographics. That is how they get to be the "happiest demographic".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:22 PM
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Agreed we don't teach them to be adults until way later. In fact the idea of "teenagers" is also modern. In medieval times you jumped from being a child to being married and expected to behave as an adult. Today teen pregnancy is associated with everything negative but usually because those girls come from abusive houses and negligence. Obviously a teen in a rich house, if she does not get an abortion, will likely have a good life anyway. And of course, if you move education to your prime fertil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:46 AM
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So I guess the equivalent is a man not being tall enough? Nothing to do with his health habits and skills and so on, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:41 AM
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True. I hope society (especially women) stop saying being obese is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:40 AM
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That is what women love to do, pretend and lie each other and men too, then wonder why men don't take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:39 AM
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Then women ask men and the state to spend their money on fixing the shitty relationship they choose, for themselves and their bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:37 AM
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So you want a guy that basically does not need you at all? Why would he choose or stay with you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:36 AM
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Modern Women are not very healthy at all. They struggle a lot with mental health, overweight, social media addiction, immaturity, etc. They are just too arrogant to admit it and as long as they can get some guy to do stuff for them by sucking their dick, they will never improve as people. Just children with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:35 AM
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Projection. Even disgusting fat narcissistic women can get guys, while even average men struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:33 AM
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LOL, not true. Even when women were assigned a husband, family required a LOT from the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:32 AM
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Those "losers" usually have something those women value a lot, such as looks, money or some kind of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:31 AM
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The idea of teens being pregnant as bad is a recent cultural phenomenon because we now need to study years before having kids, but historically that was the standard, and biologically too. Now we add more and more academic requirements to finally get a job in mcdonalds with thousands in debt. No wonder why people are not having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:30 AM
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Nah, prime top men will just enforce this as they are doing. That is the condition for their commitment. That is why the movement is growing, as those men prefer trad wives and only way women have leverage with those men is being trad. Otherwise the movement would not be raising. Also you cannont police speech as you want anymore, in fact socials are moving to allowing more hate speech,.... so get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:28 AM
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feminists, as usual, projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:19 AM
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Nothing. I don't want to support or risk myself for any woman that is not my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:17 AM
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They also expect men to keep paying for their own anti-male education and judicial system. I truly hope crypto takes over and the state and its minions (most women) get the bags of the dying system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:11 AM
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Yes, but if the price of sex is too high and requires too much, it is cheaper to fap or get a prostitute. Women today are not that special if there is no sex, at least grandpas knew how to cook and clean too to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:09 AM
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Porn is already very popular, and VR porn is even better. Even today you connect VR porn to a fleshlight and you get a very good experience that none of our ancestors would ever have. It will get better fast with AI, including robotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:08 AM
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Not really. We have porn and soon AI girlfriends to dull ourselves. Unless you mean "dangerous" by not providing for parasitic women and not paying taxes for Israeli wars, of course. IDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:05 AM
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I mean, if you import enough foreigners you can keep things running... barely. Airplanes are starting to fall LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:01 AM
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It is also as stupid, because Japan is very walkable and have lots of third spaces (people eat a lot out) and yet they have a greatest problem than the West. Same for some countries in Europe, where birth rates are going to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:57 AM
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Bullshit. Third spaces still exist, and you can argue internet is the greatest third space ever invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:55 AM
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To be fair, although there are fewer hot men, they stay hotter and fertile for way longer than hot women. I guess that is the tradeoff, but women don't have to complain because men are not necessarily looking for a very hot woman, just a woman attractive enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:03 AM
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I do agree that pregnancy for women is very risky, though. Women do get sympathy from men, but usually it is women who are in their family or friends or so on, same as women to men. But on dating issues, as a social issue, I don't think women as a whole have it nearly as bad as average men to deserve any special treatment. That does not mean women don't have other issues we can have sympathy on, such as being treated as property in some countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:01 AM
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For sure, but sometimes social skills are a result or neuroticism or autism, so there is not really much you can do except mask enough to get a woman and hopefully she says when you reveal your true dull personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:58 PM
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How would you like it if I dismissed men's suicide rates because women have it worse all across the board? Women don't have it worse across the board. Women live comfortable lives even in societies where they are socially oppressed. For instance, they are not working in mines, shitting their pants in the desert fighting a terrorist cell, etc. and even when they do get to be victims of rape or violence, they get all the sympathy men will never get. Suicide rates are just consequences of way worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:57 AM
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Sexuality is a stage you reach after meeting and knowing the guy, and therefore it cannot be a criteria as you claim. If you meet the same kind of guys all other women want, why do you think you are their special woman? I would say that 99% of men with only sexual intentions can be filtered out by just making them wait a few days or weeks. That's all. If they stay interested, you may find the guy that can be a partner because he is not just looking for sex, or at least not desperate for sex enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:51 AM
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if men would agree that this is wrong, women would think there are good men out there 99% of men have absolutely no say and influence on what a minority of top men and most women choose. Also, who said this is bad? She is free to choose it, just as men are free to point out her irrational choices (men also have their own, though).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:42 AM
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Relatively speaking, women are way pickier on this, and often don't have problems dating men in relationships. That means uglier women still get more attention than average men will ever get. I'm not saying this is good or bad, nor I say this must change or could be changed... I'm just saying that it is kind of naive to assume both genders have it equal and it is just about attractiveness, when clearly women put way more requirements on men (job, looks, car, etc) than the other way around (just …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:39 AM
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Women complaining about dating problems is like rich people complaining about not enough millions or moaning workers not staying later. It is so cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:38 AM
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There is a gradient. Obviously an erotic drawing is less stimulating than a porn film, and supposedly an erotic robot will be even more arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:36 AM
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True, and I wonder why so many people are so insistent on saying love is somehow a modern social conspiracy. I guess it is because the reasons have changed a lot, but some kind of romance was always there, even if it came later after the arrangement or if it was just natural human bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:27 AM
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There are many things that books did not reflect. For instance, we know almost nothing about the everyday life of people in most of the past because noble people who wrote those books did not care about them nor found value in their customs. I think that it is natural for people to build a connection that later was called "romantic", more or less if you depend on each other somehow, be it friendship or a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:23 AM
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Yes, but autism always existed. I just think that it often gets worse when we let kids play only with ipads instead developing socially, but that is another issue. Women now don't have to choose between an autistic man of the town or staying single forever with low income. Women now can earn high income on their own, get a man from other continent online, show their lifestyle online, etc. Literally no reason for women, even autistic women, to choose autistic men. They rather stay alone. Meanwhil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:17 AM
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Yes, and he is sexually attached to having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:12 AM
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Yeah, I know many elder couples in which romance is basically dead for years, and yet they help each other go to doctor appointments or similar stuff. I wonder if maybe the part of love that is "choice" stays even if the emotional part is ephemeral. I really doubt couples today will stay together when emotional love goes away. The ideal of perpetual romantic love is to ingrained in media, and it is sad because we may face as a society a wave of very lonely people who "dare" to leave their partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:11 AM
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racism much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:08 AM
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Now it’s flipped. More women expect to experience romance than marriage and romance is seen as a fundamental component to marriage. Is it? It rather seems women are returning to convenience marriage, even at the cost of romance. If the guy is attractive enough, rich, healthy, etc. there is not much need for romantic love (which comes and goes anyway), just long term relationships. I'm not saying romance is death, but rather it seems that romance is going back to being constructed and conditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:06 AM
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Men get a wank even on drawings. The robot does not need to be 100% convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:03 AM
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I do not want to ruin your dreams, but I am working with autonomous driving which is waaay simpler than simulating human body during sex, and in my opinion it will be a great feat if we will see a replica of human hand in next 30-50 years. Cars need safety measures and follow regulations that sex bots don't need. It is not about replicating all the human experience, just a niche of it. There are already effective AI bots filling a market that is only growing. At the end this benefits both those …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:02 AM
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I think it'd be much better question to ask why women try to control Chad and turn him into nice guy. Then he turns nice bluepilled husband and she cheats on him. These desires are totally irrational, which is understandable. What is not understandable is why women keep insisting in their dishonesty even after being aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:53 AM
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Ask this to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:52 AM
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Well, they also have to pick you, and rarely there is a match. There is also not enough time to meet these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:51 AM
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I'm not angry. I'm just curious why do these women go to these events, if they have way more options online and just walking in a bar. Why would I be angry at them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:50 AM
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As most men, I'm not in the position to be picky. There is simply no point knowing those women will never pick you, even if you are better than them in many things. Dealing with one rejection is bad, dealing with 10 rejections in a row is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:48 AM
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Well, she may be attractive enough for a quickie, but often not for relationships. Remember neuroticism is more common among women, and men don't want to deal with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:47 AM
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No, but genders can be more aware of each other and avoid stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:27 AM
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DELET THIS NAO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:26 AM
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By sexual selection, those women are often the pickiest. Women can get a good man by just opening an instagram account and saying they are single. The guy does the heavy stuff. If these women are still single even having all those options, it is likely they are the picky ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:25 AM
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*Fewer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:18 AM
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Very weird so many women go to events as these if they can just open an instagram and say they are single. Not even a dating app!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:14 AM
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Well, it would be nice if the hypocrisy and performative ethics around it changed, even if nothing else does, at least we can stop gaslighting younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:03 AM
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Yes, and yet they downvote me. To be fair, you can say there are not enough desirable women either, but men find sexual desire enough for most women, as they are not as picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:02 AM
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I was talking about his status, not hers. Women find the status of a man as a variable that makes him more sexually desirable. That is how celebrities can get plenty of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:01 AM
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Then she "forgives" him and keep fucking him and looks away for a few more years. You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:00 AM
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I disagree. Otherwise those top men would not get so much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:59 AM
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Because she gets sex, probably some support and affection, even from a man that is not monogamous. Meanwhile, those lonely men get nothing, and on top of that have to pay higher taxes for being single, and work to keep the infrastructure for people who get everything. It is a no brainer men here have it way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:57 AM
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True, but women usually to stay with a prefer a high status man, even if he stays with other women. That dynamic you describe is more a male strategy, which is also riskier for women but funnier for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:55 AM
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bc he feigns interest in them and obscures that he is pursuing other women I doubt he would be able to hide that for long, and often he is honest with his interests, she is the one that marries in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:25 PM
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Well, that was originally the idea of marriage, but today people don't really have a religious reason to enforce that. We are back to just being animals and morality today is just performative. In the past it also made more sense to be committed to a woman that the man had to pay for and pay for his children, but today we have the state to care for the weak and orphans, we have birth control, etc. Commitment lost its purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:55 PM
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Finding a man you love and desire is not hard at all. If you love someone, you won't be satisfied with being a side chick. If you analyze these two statements, you find my point. Plenty of women find it hard to find a man they love and desire, and if they do, they often have to accept that guy is not exclusive. Plenty of women accept that with no issues, but the pickiest you are, the most likely the guy is too desirable to only enjoy one option. This is a bad argument for why men should be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:53 PM
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I agree the sexual revolution was a disaster, but at the end, mathematically speaking most women will never have a monogamous man that other women desire and also is monogamous and committed to them, and happens to be attracted to her alone. Not everyone can be happy, but I have no sympathy for women because they have WAAAAY better than most men they don't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:48 PM
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Most women don't want to share man, but clearly those men have multiple women who don't mind to enforce monogamy. Those men are not using women more than women are using top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:46 PM
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A lot of the time men are deceiving women into thinking that a given woman is exclusive with him when actually he is not. Any woman with an IQ over 50 can know if the guy is avoiding her for hours or days, can ask his friends and ex's, etc. Women who fuck those men know the guy is with other women, they just live on denial. In most cases, the guy is not even committed to those women but they marry in their mind. In any case, what is the matter? You get the guy you want, he gets the women he want…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:45 PM
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You can't give the top percentage of men endless options and expect them not to capitalize on it. This. Why it is so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:42 PM
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Monogamy is much much more important for women than hypergamy. From the perspective of the woman, she is in a monogamous relationship, and plenty of women don't mind it. He is the one having sex with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:41 PM
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Glad we agree on it, queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:40 PM
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even chad isn't worth the anxiety of having sex w a man who is having sex with other people. If that was the case, then chad would not be able to get sex with other women, but he does. Maybe it is not for you, which is OK, but clearly many if not most women have no problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:39 PM
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it’s almost shameful to be with a man everyone else is also with If that is the case, then why is he still getting sex in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:38 PM
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Being with a man is not a badge of honor It is not a badge of honor, but it is a badge of status for women to get the man other women also want and envy. I find it quite funny women talk about fearing they will be killed if they go out for dinner with a guy, and yet they do it anyway... either the fear is not so great or the desire for a desirable guy is way greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:38 PM
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You are right, but being a side chick today is not a big deal. It was in the past when adultery was punished because you could create orphans and broken families, which made perfect sense. Today, that does not have to be the case. Women also can work for themselves and they don't need a man paying their lifestyle or being committed to care for them. Commitment today is mostly performative and ceremonial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:35 PM
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How is such arrangement not balanced? He gets what he wants (multiple women) and she gets what she wants (the best man).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:33 PM
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Why do you think that a polygamous arrangement cannot include commitment? I don't like polygamy either, nor I believe it is ethical, but I think it is unavoidable as it was for a lot of history. Even in "monogamous" times, high men such as Freud and Jung had side chicks. Today, we create a false dichotomy that commitment cannot exist in such arrangement, but that is purely a cultural view. Regarding his time with you, I don't find it as a problem. Women are able to find entertainment and activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:32 PM
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Same as in a monogamous relationship. Usually a man with multiple partners finances the lifestyle of the women or helps them somehow. The problem is the ethical and romantic aspect of sharing your man. Also, as someone already mentioned, women get access to the man they truly want. In any case, most women dating those men already kind of know this, they are just in denial and wants the guy to pretend she is the only one (even when everyone knows that is not the case). Why the dishonesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:29 PM
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If women choose men they desire, other women will desire them, so it is unlikely those men will stick with those women. There simply are not enough desirable men for every woman that want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:28 PM
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It is not confusing logically, but rather women refuse to accept they don't have much control on the power they naturally have. They have and love the power to attract men they want, they just hate they cannot dictate how those men behave about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:33 AM
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Consciously? Not much. Unconsciously and by looks and just being women and men being horny for them? Almost all control of the sexual market. Women are just mad they don't have much direct control, but the power is there and it is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:31 AM
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the advancements in medicine keeping more and more premature babies and complex needs babies alive to reach an age they can receive an autism diagnosis. This is actually a very good point to study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:13 AM
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Sure, but I think that the raise of severe autism in the last decade, when autism was well defined and studied, still reveals a trend. But you are right, age of parents alone cannot be the only variable, there most be something we are missing... maybe some chemical or some medications used by parents? IDK. In any case, this is a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:13 AM
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Agreed, there may contribute too. The sad thing is that we cannot afford to stop having kids later in life, as population may collapse and the social programs will not be kept running by working population. Whatever the cause of autism is, it should be high priority, at the level of climate change I would say, because... who will care about the climate and environment if society lives on demographic collapse as in Eastern Europe for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:11 AM
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I think women hate their husbands more online, anonymously. Men hate their wives publicly, I hear about it all the time at work, staying longer hours even. Why? I think women love to sell a perfect life socially, so they keep the façade.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:08 AM
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I know women love to triturate brains of babies as a power fantasy, but abortion is not truly relevant here because you cannot diagnose autism during pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:06 AM
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https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/9836-ideal-height-56-woman-511-man?redirect_from=%2Fnews%2F2014%2F07%2F11%2Fideal-height-56-woman-511-man%2F
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:04 AM
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Feminism makes women to marry and have kids later, when it is riskier for them and the child. Feminism also tells women the lie that they can "have it all" and tradeoffs don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:01 AM
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Very sad, but you are right. These mentally disabled kids exist in greater numbers because feminism pushing for family later in life, where risk of disability is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:59 AM
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You know, you could move instead of pitywhoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:58 AM
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The raise of severe autism is too evident and unambiguous to be explained only by diagnosis. Sure, maybe in the 60s we used terms such as "retarded" but we already knew severe autism existed and its diagnosis was obvious. https://fortune.com/well/2023/04/19/rate-of-profound-autism-rising-not-as-fast-as-milder-cases/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:56 AM
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I read that some STD virus can cause anal and throat cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:54 AM
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Better diagnosis explains some of this, but also severe autism is going up, and that would have been obvious even in the 70s. https://fortune.com/well/2023/04/19/rate-of-profound-autism-rising-not-as-fast-as-milder-cases/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:54 AM
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I think I'm autistic too. It is hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:53 AM
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Sure, that can explain most mild autism, but there is also a raise in low functional autism which is way more obvious: https://fortune.com/well/2023/04/19/rate-of-profound-autism-rising-not-as-fast-as-milder-cases/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:52 AM
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Women having children in their 30s or 40s is not new; it's just novel that women are now having their first child at that age. For sure, but having kids that old is by far the best explanation for the epidemic of autism. Maybe having kids earlier somehow helps with having kids later? IDK, but that seems to be the most clear variable related to autism. What's also novel is the expanded diagnostic criteria for autism and other disorders, and the interventions that allow disabled children to live t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:48 AM
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In any case, I think there is a flaws in this assumption. Priests (usually) did not reproduce, so why they were still being born after centuries of church ruling? I think it is not genetic, but rather personality traits that may favor some men to reproduce and others to not. Sure, there may be a genetic component, but there must be a dynamic that keeps those "undesirable" men around. It probably can be attributed more to socialization than genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:38 AM
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I guess women will have to share, and they hate it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:25 AM
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Being smart is not necessarily sexually attractive to women. Plenty of criminals have huge sex appeal and they are dumb, and plenty of smart people are too nerdy and weak to be appealing to women. But yes, it was nice there was a place for both kind of men. Sadly, we are shifting to a sex-exclusive selection society, and the nerd guys are just collective Start Wars figures and watching anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:24 AM
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To be fair, there were also a lot of women that did not reproduce, such as nuns, and teachers historically remained single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:23 AM
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You are being very dishonest by comparing dating today to how it was 40 or even 20 years ago. Clearly dating today has shifted from the "I want a provider and stable man" to "I just want a hot man to fuck and ideally only me" for most women, since government artificially allocated resources now to them if they choose to date criminals or irresponsible men, so only physical matters now. Long run, it is a pyramid, because those rejected men will not keep contributing to a system that does not rewa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:22 AM
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No one is denying some short men do fine, but statistically it is uphill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:19 AM
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Eugenics are also genocide. For example, sterilizing some native americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:19 AM
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some folks are just gonna get left behind 🤷🏽‍♀️ I guess women will have to share, then 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:16 AM
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Well, what is wrong with that? That is a preference as any other. If she is getting cared of at some level, and he is getting cared of that way, and both are fine, maybe love is not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:21 PM
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It seems obvious, but you would be surprised how many people still claim "better alone than in a bad relationship", probably to deny the reality they refuse to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:08 PM
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They may not be looking for now but that does not mean they did not try, sometimes for years. For your mental health, sometimes it is better to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:07 PM
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...yet they also expect men, while being equal, to somehow earn more and be providers and stronger and more attractive. It is so mental: "We want to be equal, and we will push all laws to realize that, but obviously we want men to be better than us for us to even consider them".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:10 AM
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Would you be less upset if women didn’t say it was just as bad and only said that it’s an issue they’re facing? It would not be upsetting at all! Obviously plenty of women have issues dating. I just find that they use those issues to just undermine or push back against issues men have, even if the magnitude of those is not the same. If I was an empathic woman, I would say something like "Women also have X dating issues, but I understand most men have that worse in that dating aspect and it sucks…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:08 AM
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Agreed. Also changing the environment makes you realize if the problem is you or the place you live, so you can adjust accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:04 AM
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Not all women. Might be like trying to find a unicorn but there are women with situations like your's as well. In a sense he is proposing to do like those women. Those women don't find the man they want, so they rather stay alone forever. Think about it: women have way more options than most men will ever have, and still struggle to the point they don't date. Men taking the same decision is somehow "giving up" but women doing it is "empowering" for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:02 AM
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Good point. Also people don't realize you have to be brave to give up too. It is not like "bah, I'll never date", you are probably accepting a life of significant loneliness, no children, no more invitation for family parties because you are the "weird single uncle". It is not about giving up, but also about accepting the hell that comes from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:00 AM
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Why do you have to formally give up tho? Leaving the wound open "just in case" causes the most pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:53 AM
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To some extent welfare also subsidises single mothers perhaps. Yes, it also subsidizes crime. Those kids often become criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:00 AM
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Exactly. Why would successful men sacrifice their chance for men that have none?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:59 PM
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Yes and no. Men do this because other forms of status have been suppressed. Male only clubs are at best unpopular and at worse illegal. The irony? Women would have better men if men did not have only sexual status to prove themselves, yet also women benefit the most from male horniness, so that will probably never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:58 PM
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Yeah this is the power men have. Men can excel and fail in so many categories, while women only on very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:56 PM
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I don't think most meen feel threatened, rather they feel vulnerable. Men do feel threatened by violent men, of course, which makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:54 PM
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Yes and no. I can feel like shit compared to very attractive men, but I don't feel "threatened" by them, just eclipsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:53 PM
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I'm in the process of giving up, but also being open to possibilities. The problem is that it is like leaving a wound open, so it hurts. If I find a way to don't feel resentment regardless of the outcome, I'll take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:47 PM
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If you try to sell something and don't sell anything, you are not scared of customers, you are just rational and try selling or doing something else. Same for dating. Personally I never had any problem speaking to women, and ironically many men in relationships I know never speak to women at work, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:45 PM
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Growing up is also realizing when you are not born to be attractive. Dude, you don't have any special talent beside luck, and dating is shifting more and more to traits we cannot control or fake, such as height or face structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:42 PM
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You are speaking from a place of privilege. It would be too hard to realize what you got is mostly of the luck of not being too ugly or too short or too autistic. Some empathy and self awareness would not hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:39 PM
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Being successful at promiscuity is a hallmark of quality for men. Because men who are losers can't get women to sleep with them. But the same can't be said for women. They don't need any talent, skill or hard work to be promiscuous. Why cannot women get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:34 PM
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Precisely. I wonder if this is why most single men never approached women... it is self-demeaning and feels like begging. Disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:28 PM
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Relationships made sense like 200 years ago, when people relied directly on each other to survive. Today, the value of romantic relationships is only cultural and maybe spiritual. You are not dying for staying single, and yet society pushes for you to feel terrible for just not being attractive enough to get a partner (as if you could pick your own genes or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:27 PM
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you're already in goblin mode that can't be good for your cortisol levels. Menstruation is a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:25 PM
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So you got scared of the amount of competition Is not that a reasonable concern? If women have countless options, then it gets worse for men that are average because women are more likely to try only men over average, even if they are out of their league. Of course, those women will be used as fleshlights, but so far it seems they enjoy it, contradicting their claim to want equal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:24 PM
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Well, it is really upsetting that women have the audacity to compare them to issues most men face in OLD. No, getting too many matches is not as bad as getting zero matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:21 PM
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Way better odds than zero of most men. Only limitation is your time to pick among those men, so obviously you will pick the same guys other women pick and never ever meet men on your level that would want to have a long term relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:20 PM
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Women. Do. Not. Want. Meaningless. And. BAD. Casual. Sex Yet those women are very eager to make a hundred exceptions and give sex "just in case" the chad guy wants them for a relationship. Women are not being honest with themselves nor others. They don't want something and yet do exactly it as strategy to get what they want (and yet in most cases they only get dicked down).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:18 PM
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The only good thing of this is that we are hard to fool because we have been rejected so much that we know these women only want to date for their own financial and selfish interests... their children also will always go first, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:15 PM
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Sometimes cities have more competition, and it may not be worth it paying 3x more expensive rent for maybe getting someone, and having to change jobs, moving away from family, etc. I think people who grow in small towns do better IF they have connections locally. They may date people they studied with or neighbors they knew for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:07 PM
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Cities also have more competition, so it evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:05 PM
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A lot of “liberal” women are actually better bets. Those are the biggest feminist c*nts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:03 PM
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It does not seem to be what most women prefer, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:52 AM
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I think this is kinda a myth. Most "players" are social monogamists or promiscuous men that don't expect loyalty from women. They don't really have any close harem, those women are usually fucking other men or are married. Only example I can imagine of your assumption is a man with a woman in different city where he stays to work, for example. Airplane pilots are often like this. But it is more out of opportunity than desire to 'have a harem'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:47 PM
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It depends what you mean with women being better off with men. On marriage? Usually married people last more, but according to studies men have better health in marriage, yet it may be because women choose healthier men in the first place, but overall, married people are usually considered happier. On money? Well, women are the greatest users of government services, while men are the greatest contributors to taxes. I wonder if this counts as women depending on men, or not. Happy single? Well, si…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:39 PM
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A lot of men don't leave hellish women just because they enjoy sex, just as some women don't leave abusive men because they don't want to leave the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:37 PM
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why are most couples in the developed country world evenly matched with looks and socioeconomic status then? A lot of those couples formed before internet, or knew each other since childhood, or one of them became fat and ugly. You are assuming couples you see are formed recently and always looked the same, while clearly apps and the trends show that dating has changed. Women are still not independent for just being given jobs they are very inept to do, just for a company to look well. Women sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:34 PM
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If men are slaves to their own sexuality, then that’s 100% their own fault, t If you read what you wrote again, you can notice the fundamental contradiction of your statement. Don't worry. Women are also slaves of their own desires in other aspects, usually not sexual, which is precisely why feminism often pushes for laws to protect women from consequences of their own bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:33 PM
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Maybe, but to be fair, many men who are desired by women also keep their options open. I don't agree with most women here, they are too dramatic and feminist, but both genders cheat. I guess we cannot do much about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:56 PM
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Men are too horny to the point they are manipulated for that. Women are too picky to the point their hurt their own chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:50 PM
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Is not commitment precisely the action of choosing to close all other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:49 PM
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Better flyover state than another fly-away coast city.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:44 PM
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while still living a cosmopolitan lifestyle with all the benefits of living in a liberal area. Well, plenty of liberals love the benefit of moving to a state of lower taxes and they also visited states with less strict covid regulations. Not all liberals have same ideas, not all conservatives live in the county (in fact many are business owners in cities), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:43 PM
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True, but women also are less able to handle admitting it or being labeled as such. That is how women keep the privilege but also the façade of goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:52 AM
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The gaslighting is unbelievable, then they wonder why those men get so resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:50 AM
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What about women who put zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:49 AM
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I really don't get the point of this post, it seems like some twisted excuse as to why women reject nice guys. It is. Same with women who see incels as the biggest threat to women, for just one of them shooting like 2 women every 5 years... when in fact the biggest threats for women are the men they choose. Women have all the options to choose, and yet women are terrible choosing men but they will never admit it. They rather blame honestly nice men than their own shitty "intuition".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:48 AM
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I would say niceness is not enough, but still a good person is more likely to be considered "nice" or at least 'peaceful'. Sure, some people were good and disagreeable, such as Jesus calling out the priests, but not everyone was like that nor called to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:45 AM
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That is not a bad idea, I mean, there are many things couples should talk about... such as what religion they will have to raise the kids, what kind of education, who will work (if one or both), where they should live, etc. but sadly I don't think that is enough. Someone can change their mind, couple may be in disagreement during pregnancy, they can split, etc. and they are left with the same questions again and the plans may be lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:54 AM
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I usually agree with vaccination, but I don't know if mandates are the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:51 AM
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Why should they have to opt out instead of you opting in? Usually standard tests and stuff such as vaccine is like that. It is assumed to be performed until we opt out. But yes, I agree that the implementation may be a little complicated, I can agree on you on that. I just think the upsides are greater, but I get you don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:49 AM
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There are usually extra steps for that right to be accessed, such as courts and legal issues. The woman already knows that by birthing the baby. What is wrong with men also legally birthing the baby with a test? Truth is that commitment is dying. Marriage made sense like 200 years ago, but today everyone fucks anything with little consequence and guarantee. Science can help with the trust gap created by the collapse of marriage and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:47 AM
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To our direct benefit, it's good for everyone to keep a criminal locked up because you never know if you would be the next target. The court system and criminal justice system also directly inhibits vengeful responses, which increase crime in an area. Ironically most criminals are kids without fathers. If the father knows better the kid is his, they probably have more reasons to invest in them. It is all connected. By your (insane) logic here, then you're in favor of enslaving an entire populati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:45 AM
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Paternity tests may also improve the relationship between the father and the kid. He can know for sure the kid is his, making him invest more raising the kid and being more responsible. If they never know or they are never 100% sure, they are less likely to put more effort in theirs, just as women put less effort in stepkids. This security can improve relationships between parents and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:42 AM
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Child support laws don’t mean men don’t get to “run away” . And men can pay their mistress support secretly anyway which would hurt the wife and the legitimate children’s financial Security. I would argue it is better to pay for your own kids, even at the cost of some financial security, than paying for a kid you have nothing to do in the first place... that is basically throwing money away. But again, I'm not defending men having mistresses or paying or not for the kid. I'm talking about just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:40 AM
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Sadly, many of those tests are not legally binding, and in some countries such as France they are actually illegal. The man is just stuck raising or at least paying for a product of adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:36 AM
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I don't find standard paternity tests as a way to break down or reinforce relationships. That is not the work of the state in any case. Recognizing biological paternity has many more advantages than that. From healthcare, to freedom of mind for the father, to right of the kid to know who the actual biological father is (or isn't), etc. As you say, relationships are messy anyway, which is why adding some clarity using science can help so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:34 AM
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Can I test the baby that I have not admitted yet to be my child?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:31 AM
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I'm sure you can give the option for both parents to drop the test, just as they have options to avoid some vaccines or specific testing. By making it default standard procedure, you don't have to break the trust of the couple, and you don't have to "force" anyone to anything unless there is a disagreement, in which case it is the same as court procedures today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:30 AM
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What if she does not agree? In any case you are precisely exposing why the current system is so unfair, you are not really defending it effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:28 AM
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Yes, but you probably will not be legally able to test the kid before step 1, so you need to rely on court. Step 3 is stupid, since you can be a parent outside of marriage, it makes no sense to assume you are the parent just because you are married. If women really wanted to get rid of patriarchy, they would start with that very primitive assumption that makes no sense in the age of science. If you find years later, it is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:28 AM
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[ So you don't want to pay as a taxpayer for someone else kid because it is not yours, but you want an innocent man to pay for a kid that is not his? ] Yes, and so does practically everyone else. Between you or a stranger, who would you prefer pays for the kid? I prefer society to pay as a collective the burden, rather than use one innocent person as a scapegoat. I also doubt you would favor this if you were the stranger in question. The irony is that we already pay as a collective for criminals…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:25 AM
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Sadly, a lot of these tests are not legally binding, and you need to admit to be father to perform them. You can ask court to revoke your parenthood, but they just may say "no" and actually consider you hostile, make you pay double the child support for a bastard that is not yours, and put you in jail if you get near the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:23 AM
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Any hypocrisy on my part doesn’t change any of my arguments Well, it proves your arguments come from an emotional place rater than being rational. We all are hypocritical in some aspects, I can agree with that. If I was you and had your views, I would probably say something like this: I don't agree with paternity test because, even if it may have many benefits for the children and the man, I find it too socially disruptive to be considered. Still, I understand it is not always fair for the cucke…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:20 AM
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Rather than trying to get more women to agree with your beliefs surrounding paternity tests why not just find a woman who shares your beliefs about paternity test from the get go and have kids with her? Women weed out men who don’t share their core beliefs so why don’t men do the same? I guess the reason is that it is not about the woman, but about the well being of the child. In the same token we can say that we don't need to intervene as a state in abusive relationships, why don't women find m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:16 AM
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I suspect that is not legal before you sign the paternity certificate as the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:14 AM
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So you are the kind of mom that would oppose vaccines, right? Paternity tests are indeed important to know genetic compatibility, consider family history of health, donation, etc. It may not be urgent to know, but it is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:13 AM
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I don't want to pay for someone else kid, go stick the husband with it instead. So you don't want to pay as a taxpayer for someone else kid because it is not yours, but you want an innocent man to pay for a kid that is not his?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:11 AM
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That is why the test should be standard. If it is a standard test, as the hundred of tests babies get today after birth, then no trust has to be broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:10 AM
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You usually need to be legally the father to test the baby.... to know if you are the father. See the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:09 AM
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Most men already have the right to get a paternity test. Where they don't, they should. I'm on board with any man having this right. Usually the problem is that there is a legal catch-22. So you need to be a father to test the child, but the point of the test is to know if you are the father. A more legally neutral time, such as the time during the hospital, before any relationship with the child is established, is the ideal time for the best interest of the child and the father to have that inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:09 AM
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No. You insisting force against me, forcing me to have my child take a paternity test is a violation of my freedom from coercion. I hope you think the same about circumcision and all medical tests children get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:06 AM
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And men have always been able to cheat and father children with mistresses with no physical evidence of their offspring being developed- unlike women who carry pregnancy. So far a lot of law is there to protect women from men running away. The state has the incentive to do this because they don't want the children to be a tax burden. On pregnancy being risky, it is risky anyway if the baby is legitimate or not, and a lot of healthcare advances have helped pregnancy to be safer, which is very imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:05 AM
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On the flip side, if a good guy finds such a girl, he probably will not have to do it again because it can develop into a true loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:50 PM
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Understood. Party girls are easy. They are social, they go to social events, etc. Shy girls have to be meet in school or cafes or public spaces, and clearly there is a legal and cultural push against men doing that. Still, I think nerdy girls can open an app and get men interested in nerdy girls. If they choose the same men party girls choose, tho, they are in a losing game for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:06 PM
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It is probably more a lack of exposition. A random party girl will probably also not treat you as trash, but if you try to meet a woman in the library or cafe, that can be seen as harassment. Think from the perspective of men: They really don't have many realistic options to meet shy nerdy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:58 PM
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I thought women did not care what men want because women have abundant options? I agree that shy good women are often not liked a lot, but what can realistically men do? They really don't know if they just don't want to date or if they are shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:55 PM
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I'd prefer women who are monogamous, who have no history of cheating, and are not divorced. The later may be an exception, as there are many good divorced women that just happened to have had bad luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:48 PM
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Indeed, being treated as a second class citizen for just not being born desirable or neurotypical, is as bad as any other kind of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:47 PM
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A lot of women don't like that their men use porn as a substitute for them I thought porn was not good enough as the real thing? I'm hearing contradictory things here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:44 PM
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So... not a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:43 PM
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Rescuing older used up tattooed women, and raising their bastards, is not worth either even for low SMV men. It can go easily from zero to negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:42 PM
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That is a fact, but the post-nut clarity combined with the social stigma related to having no sex and watching porn as a subtitute only amplifies frustration in the long run I was referencing to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:40 PM
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If you observe carefully, you see many women only organizations or shelters, there are fewer homeless women even when women spend more and save way less money, women are also promoted to jobs just to boost diversity rather than actual productivity, more leave benefits if they have a child, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:39 PM
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Sexual pleasure is joy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:35 PM
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Even if that was the case, it is clear that women are preaching men something they don't do themselves. They expect men to talk to them and treat them as "equal" but, God, they would never really want to be treated as shit, which is how most women treat most men. So there is really no reason to take women that seriously on issues they have no idea about, such as what being a man implies in this society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:33 PM
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Sure, in the same token society is not owned anyone's contribution. If someone is not getting the same privileges and pleasures others get, it makes sense for those people to not contribute to such system. For example, if women choose abusive men, they should be left at their own instead spending millions of taxpayer money from good men to try to convince them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:12 PM
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When people are struggling with their own issues, other people's issues are out of scope. Why would men who are rejected by society even want to care about women terrible decisions of not not using birth control and their bastards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:10 PM
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The reality is that immature men are focused on shit like “body count.” Those same men then seethe because no one wants to fuck them. How is having standards immature? It is not unreasonable to not want the future mother of your children to have kms of dick, and probably not a good idea for the happiness of your marriage long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:08 PM
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How dare men have preferences? Just as women often prefer men with experience, men don't like women with too much experience, and that is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:07 PM
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I disagree. For example, many men had great genetics but were fat during younger days. Those men can get thin and get more sexual attention than they ever did, while people of his own age keep getting fatter. You may not go back in time and live that life again, but you can indeed live a great life from now on, although it indeed takes a monumental effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:06 PM
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I have 0 sympathy for your struggles with finding a virgin GF, that's a you problem, get over it. Most people don't end up going the distance with their first couple partners anyway. So? I have zero empathy for women that date abusive men and expect government (AKA other men) to step in and protect them from their terrible decisions. They don't need my sympathy, and yet they try to find a way to make it my problem too. Truth is that no one needs your pity, which is just a way to express your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:05 PM
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This is kind of desingenous. For example, third world people are not unhappy for comparison, but because they lack resources. In the same token, it is a perfect valid reason to be unhappy for not even being able to have love and make a family, even when society still expects you to pay taxes and contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 10:03 PM
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If she is not ugly, thin and under 20, she can make as much as a CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:49 AM
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To say that this is the reason why men can’t get laid in 2023 is a lie based on nothing. Why not? Women now have more options so it makes sense they date those men less. Government also is basically their provider husband, if they have a bastard they get paid for it. Most social safety networks prioritize women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:42 AM
1

So... porn frustration is not a problem after all? watching porn as a subtitute only amplifies frustration in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:41 AM
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That's unfortunate, but if they put the money they make from porn in a IRA they can retire on that, and marry a man that likes porn actresses to maintain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:37 AM
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You can make good money 🤑
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:36 AM
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Porn addictions affect the addict's partner too. Most of those posts are just women ruminating about husbands not loving them just for jerking off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:32 AM
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Because porn and actual sex are the same thing (if they were the entire incel community would have never existed) Not the same, but it helps. Women in porn also are way better looking. That is a fact, but the post-nut clarity combined with the social stigma related to having no sex and watching porn as a subtitute only amplifies frustration in the long run If that was the case, violence against women would get worse, not be the lowest in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:32 AM
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As an analogy, it was not your fault your house' stuff got stolen, but it still your responsibility to lock it and secure your assets anyway. This goes both ways, men often choose terrible women, but again, most men don't have many options anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:11 AM
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Drinking and smoking are also (unlike SMV, objectively) bad for you, yet people still do them. Agreed. Just pointing out that it is not only men's responsibility, but also women's, on their (ir)responsible decisions. I would also say women are even more responsible for dating terrible men because men desire women more than women desire men. Women also have more sexual control or at least more awareness in dating. I'm sure many if not most women do eventually take good decisions on dating, but pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:00 AM
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Usually there is more common empathy for poor people, though. It is taboo to laugh at poor people or call them losers just because they are poor, but for most of history that was common to treat them as trash. Which group is today treated as that with no moral or legal repercussion? Men who are not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:57 PM
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Yes, but it seems the fear is not as great as women claim it to be if they still do it. In any case, by fucking men that are way better than you, you are basically risking to be treated worse by virtue of having a lower SMV. In the past social classes prevented this dynamic or made it taboo, but now every woman is just a prostitute of higher men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:49 PM
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Only difference is the scale. Most women realize they will never be good enough to attract any rich man with countless options, and even if they do there is no way they will spend good money on them... so women go lower to parasite hardworking men, which is what most women have always done.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:47 PM
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You would be surprised. Women still expect average men to spend way more on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:42 PM
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Women still have a lot of sex with different men just because they are good looking. I'm skeptic they have such fear. Their worst fear is having to fuck men at their own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:41 PM
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True, but they are irrelevant or cheap in the dating market, so not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:06 AM
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Yes and no. It is a dangerous game. You can be labeled as sexist (even when that has nothing to do with attraction), and if you are not attractive it really does not help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:04 AM
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There is no part of the brain that only activates when you are dying of hunger. In fact, if that was the case that part would just die out. Brain adapts to the circumstances. If the worst you feel is hunger, then that is your hell. If is boredom, then boredom is your hell. For the brain it makes no difference at the end, it is pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:56 AM
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You may understand loneliness and hopelessness, but you lack the sense of empathy to realize others can feel that too for diverse reasons beside yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:32 AM
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Yes, today there are no real sexual and dating standards... people just have to be lucky. That is the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:08 AM
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You are speaking from a position of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:07 AM
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I don't know how it feel to die, so I cannot say. But if being near death is very common in your life, I suppose it becomes the usual negative emotion... just as today it is nihilism. You can argue that death felt better because at least they had faith in a better life to come, today missing out on living the only life we had is subjectively worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:30 PM
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32, 19
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:28 PM
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Cheating happens for different reasons in men and women. For men, cheating is a relief, a way to get satisfaction but they still love wife. For women, cheating is often just revenge or just the first step to leaving the husband. Both are terrible things, but both are also for totally different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:28 PM
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No one takes women seriously either. They are literally treated as retarded children by the state, giving them quotas and artificial job positions, subsidized help and work, rescuing you from the terrible men you choose, etc. But hey, at least women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:24 PM
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Brain is adjusted relatively to the best and worst experiences. If the worst experience today is loneliness, then that is adjusted to feel subjectively as bad as dying of cholera or tuberculosis. In a sense, having a comfortable life is what makes us less able to handle the worst. Meanwhile, the worst conditions make you the strongest and most likely to survive, such as bacteria in hospitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:22 PM
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Sex work is not slavery. In any case, many women have proven that they want also to ban porn and AI methods for men to get pleasure, just to keep the pussy cartel because they literally don't have anything else to offer. That tech is even easier to favor and implement than prostitution, with zero victims, and yet women oppose it for selfish reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:21 PM
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Not ideal, but that is beside the point. The state is already distributing wealth and surplus mainly produced by men, so it makes sense for the state to also ease the distribution of sex. Women liberation is subsidized by the state. The economic collapse of Venezuela and women going back to prostitution proves this point... women are unable to be truly independent, they need surplus of wealth men produce. Men also are unable to live without sex, so it makes sense to make it more accessible to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:47 PM
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Legal and widely available prostitution should be a good start. If roughly speaking, marriage is an exchange of sex and intimacy for wealth, it makes sense for the state to distribute also sex as it distributes wealth. In any case it is mostly women who benefit the most from male productivity. If more and more men give up on contributing to society, we will see more and more collapse of social systems which benefit women and parasites the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:43 PM
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Frustrated men reliably point out that attractive, popular men get laid for merely existing, so unattractive, unpopular men deserve the same. They don’t acknowledge the rights of women to choose a partner; they want women divided up and distributed equally among all men as though women are an agricultural product or basic human right. You are assuming same men that are sexist are also men who are not getting sex. Truth is that men being sexist or evil cruel to women have nothing to do with how a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:42 PM
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What is your idea of a solution? Force women to be intimate with the men with whom they don’t want to be? To force women to touch men they don’t want to touch? You can support prostitution and stop demonizing porn, for starting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:40 PM
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Men’s lonliness isn’t some easy thing we can solve through money or social programs Neither is women being beaten by the partners THEY choose, and yet we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:40 PM
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Give men proportional privileges to their expected contribution to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:39 PM
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For starters, it allows politicians to make laws that also benefit men (e.g. men after divorce not being ripped off) without looking like evil villains.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:38 PM
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- but why women should care ? Same thing I say about women hurt by their partners. Why should society care about those women if they choose those men? Most violence against women come from partners they choose, not from random incels that are too coward to even get out of the home. Yet women demonize the incel men more than the men they fuck, even when the men they fuck are way more likely to kill them anyway. Society also makes women's struggles as everyone's struggles. Why that is the case for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:38 PM
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Women aren’t the ones in this sub asking for sympathy, though Women do ask for privileges and special treatment, even undeserving. They push for laws, gender quotas, and benefit hugely by the system they support without any merit to back it up. Men online are asking for sympathy because in real world only women can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:35 PM
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The mental stability that some medications can give can also help you to fix your life, at least during the treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:06 PM
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Why don't women like to be called females? I think the term is preferred to women because men often talk about women as a whole, even when they are still teens or girls, when they talk about female attitudes and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:33 AM
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harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:32 AM
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Also, wanting to be married is a choice that's far more steeped in integrity than just wanting to get your dick wet with scags. Dick is more direct. Commitment only made sense when you depended on the man, but women are now powerful and independent, so commitment is just a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:02 AM
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You are assuming RP is about abuse, but it is mostly psychology in the same way we use it to sell trash. RP can be something as simple as a guy saying something implying he is already dating other women, and making the woman jealous or eager to compete for the guy. Sure, most women don't fall for those stupid tricks, but surprisingly many do. In a sense, RP suggest men to behave exactly as women desire men to be. In any case, RP is amoral. Sure, it can be a lie, but it can also be actual behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:01 AM
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It is true women are selective, but women also want monogamy. Women forgot that men are 50% of population, so there cannot be enough men for everyone of them. They will have to be secondary wives, or share the guy, or wait their turn... women hate that and hate men for that, and yet it is on their own power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:57 AM
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Women create their own hell and make the state to bill other men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:56 AM
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My body my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:54 AM
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Totally, but men always knew this. Precisely dating for men is realizing this from the moment they know they have to pay for the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:53 AM
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with a pizza 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:52 AM
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Yeah, HR witches.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:52 AM
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Why do you find it disgusting? For men sexuality comes first, then love. For women love comes first, then sexual desire. That is OK, both reach the same plateau.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:52 AM
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All of the work a woman has to do to keep her man interested is daunting I guess it is the payback for all the work most men have to put to even get someone interested in them. In any case, women are the ones that initiate divorce the most, so they are not really that eager to keep men interested. They know they have options, so women do have love but their love can shift from man to man in an instant, which is kind of worse than what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:50 AM
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I can’t imagine being married to a man who hated me. It’s truly amazing how OP is attempting to turn this into something that’s no big deal. Because it is not hate for you, I'd say it is hate for themselves... for not staying single younger, choosing marriage, etc. They just project it in their women, but they know very well that in aggregate is it better to be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:49 AM
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most guys aren't evil, but they also aren't always worth the effort of staying with either. The issue is that this views raise precisely in men that women stay with... they just end resenting and hating their wives. These are not sexless men, these are married men with children that feel betrayed by their own women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:47 AM
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Women are definitely aware of men wanting to use them for sex Why "use" is used in such inhuman way? Both enjoy sex, no one is using anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:47 AM
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You mean the men that don't exist for you (most of them) or the men you keep fucking and giving all sex to the point they don't feel any need to respect and commit to you ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:46 AM
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Well, if the men you do want end up hating you, and if lesbian couples end up being the worst... maybe the problem is not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:45 AM
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Yes, but men did not choose that. It is hormonal, just as women don't choose to treat 90% of men as trash... they just feel disgusted by them, and then complain when those men don't give them free stuff and narcissistic supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:43 AM
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That is why women shall support porn and prostitution. If men are not entitled to women, then they will not feel entitled to contribute to work and pay for your bastards and your fake female job positions to gain brown points. Keep those men happy and then women will be even happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:42 AM
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Precisely RP promotes behavior in men that women find attractive, though, but in a conscious way. Otherwise no woman would be fucking criminals or their beaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:41 AM
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Why do you assume this casts men as inferior or carnal? Men are carnal, that does not make them inferior in any way, if anything that makes them more grounded and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:40 AM
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Promiscuity was my life before family life More humble bragging, yes 🙄 Ok guys, I used to fuck like 50 women a month, but It did not fulfil me.. I needed lOvE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:39 AM
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Well, good for you, but it seems men are more open to be OK with terrible women as long as they get something from them, such as sex or housing work. This makes sense because men don't really need much from women, yet what they need is VERY important. Whatever that is good or bad is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:37 AM
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Judging by the comments you struck a few nerves…peeps are forget the purpose of this sub lol I don't get why. My intention is to explain this behaviour in married men, not to make them mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:36 AM
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It is not as much that women like bad boys, but rather that being morally abhorrent does not affect the attraction women may have for those guys, no matter all the shit they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:34 AM
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Women enjoy making their husbands suffer, for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:34 AM
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Most young men are having sex. So? You don't need many men (or women, but on other aspects) being frustrated with society to make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:32 AM
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Sure, there are exceptions and diversity, but I would say in average women expect the whole package... which is a reasonable request, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:30 AM
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Women talking about integrity, when they are the ones that push for marriage and divorce LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:29 AM
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Many men usually don't use sophisticated words for emotions. They use hate as a strong word for just normal disagreement or aspects they dislike on the relationship, but love is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:51 PM
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got it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:45 PM
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For sure, but I think sex drive in men is way stronger and more animalistic, so it is harder to control. Still it does not justify men cheating or the like, but as I said in the post, it explains the attitudes of many men towards their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:45 PM
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I honestly don't get what this comment has to do with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:44 PM
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I mean, you can sympathize with people that do stuff you don't morally agree with. I can sympathize with someone stealing to pay for their own addiction, but also I get that stealing is not sustainable and may actually hurt the collective long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:43 PM
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This is why I don't like cold approaches. I hate to say it, but many women do love cold approaches if the right guy does it. Otherwise it would not even be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:42 PM
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See? A win-win, but he had to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:40 PM
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I know it probably never going to happen, while women needs are indeed high priority for the state, the same cannot be said about male needs. However, legalizing prostitution at least is reasonable and valid, and give similar benefits. At some point the state will have to accept it as male productivity keeps dropping and never coming back for at least 3 decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:32 PM
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Ummm, maybe, but it is not better that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:31 PM
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Consumers cannot really know if a porn film came from abuse or not. The burden of proof is on the corporations and regulatory state organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:30 PM
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Sure, but often society does not just rely on people working, but people making a profit. I welcome men working for themselves and their own properties, and yet letting society rot around if they don't feel society is giving them anything of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:26 PM
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Women want men that are realized, men want men who are not damaged or shaped by other men already... Men expecting blank slate women is not less reasonable than women only dating winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:24 PM
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Most people, but not everyone. Some people were raised in the county, away from many communities, or in religious communities. My point is that every case is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:23 PM
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I mean, if you like her from a perspective of love, why not pay for her? That is a good investment. The problem is the men who simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:22 PM
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"younger woman does not understand that I am a failure" That may be a reasonable though from those men, and it may work after all. Not all men are winners, so why do you care if their preference is based on that reasoning? That is still a preference. In any case, not every man want to pay extra for a woman that has become less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:20 PM
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It is very important to have common grounds in debates, even if these things seem obvious, because otherwise we will default to debase the basics just to win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:49 PM
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Same reason why men end up earning more than women, then they complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:48 PM
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Wholesome. I hope you are happy. You can also explain that a lot of women in your age bracket are taken, or in loving relationships, so it makes sense to find partners in others age brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:04 AM
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Why would a preference for age be more predatory or a red flag than any other kind of preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:03 AM
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what 30 year old adult would wanna be with a 19 year old. I would... a blank slate to shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:02 AM
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Yeah, adults are adult. I'm sure a lot of younger women find older men as richer and more established, so it makes sense they have some appeal. They can just learn from it and move on, as you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:01 AM
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If women were really concerned, they would not buy trash from China in Temu made by Asian slaves, many of which are women and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:00 AM
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If only those were the only struggles of men. Women are treating as fucking royalty, even being parasitistic and inefficient, but companies need to prove how tolerant they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:00 AM
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I'm not just talking about welfare. But see this market dynamic: For millennia men gave women resources and women gave back sex and fertility. Now, the state is a proxy, which expects resources but don't distribute sex. Therefore, the system is inherently unfair for men, and increasingly inefficient as men realize they don't get any benefit off it. As more men drop out of society, women will have to carry the load of those men too, or rather drop the idea of civilization and share the few guys t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:59 PM
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Men complain themselves about their loneliness all the time. If you read carefully, most men are really caring about not having sex. If they really cared about loneliness, they would appreciate female friendship more, and yet women claim they don't. My perspective is that male loneliness is not a big problem, but I do agree with you that society in general is more lonely for some reason. But focusing too much in male loneliness is like saying that cacti is dying for having too little water. Cact…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:53 PM
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I actually vent my hate here in this forum so I can be extra nice with women in real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:41 PM
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Women struggles are just like rich people losing half their fortune... yeah, even the government has to bail them up. First, male loneliness epidemic is not such a big thing as women put it... it is just journalist fake crisis to manipulate men into buying more feminist turds. But wait, there is more.... Pink tax is not men's problem. Women choosing abusive partners (especially other women) is not men's problems. Guys ignoring women at work is not any man's problem, in fact they are avoiding it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:32 PM
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Yes, but those men are rather the ones treating the woman as trash or at least disposable, because, why wouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:27 PM
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Yes, there are enough women willing to make some bucks giving sex, and the state and all women will benefit if those men get sex, get motivated to work, and give more money to the husband-state women are married to today. It is not a win-win, but a win-win-win: women win, men win, the state wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:26 PM
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Sex workers don’t solve anything because the issue is the lack of validation. It could be enough to fool the lower brain parts of them, just as porn prevented those men from tearing down civilization. I guess sex work is just the next logical step to keep those men happy, as prostitution was for literally 99% of history in any civilized society. Same as women and their bastards getting money from the state for just existing. It is not the same as a caring husband and an actually functional famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:36 PM
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Nah, women are narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:34 PM
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So I point out for women to be aware of it, and also for men to take it into account, and anyone to disagree if they want. That is the point of this forum. Why do you care so much about the meta of the post? If it is pointless for you this observation, so is your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:32 PM
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Now, I'm blackpilled and so, but almost no one assumes I was a virgin. In fact I used to go to lunch with a female coworker and everyone assumed we were fucking. I enjoyed the status, tho. Men can be virgins for valid reasons, such as living with parents because rent is too high. Men may also not be virgins if they get a sex workers, but that does not make them any more winners. Don't put pussy/women on a pedestal. That is exactly what they want, for you to be desperate to spend money buying the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:29 PM
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State sponsored sex workers would be of great help and motivate those men to do great things for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:25 PM
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Glad you like it, same reason why men watch porn, because they like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:24 PM
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porn isnt especially when theres more ethical alternatives for people to get off to There literally aren't for most single men. The intention of men watching porn is not to hurt women. If there is a production that does that, it is the fault of the production, not the customers who don't have access to key information as the authorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:22 PM
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I'm not denying what you say is true. I'm just pointing out that fact is not unique to the industry of porn, and therefore it is dishonest to use that fact only against porn industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:21 PM
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They literally draw a face and then claim they are perfect as they are LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:20 PM
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So you draw a new face on top of yours to cause envy on other women? That is so shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:18 PM
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Because women assume men often rate the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:17 PM
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Good point. The irony is that a lot of things men obsess with, such as gym or exercise or making money, is precisely what make them desirable to women in the first place. Women are not very empathic on men regarding this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:40 PM
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I personally wish to see a standardization of living standards so we begin to see negative immigration rates. I hope the same, but I suspect it will not happen in my lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:39 PM
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I'm not generalized, I'm observing generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:38 PM
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You probably are on a phone. Almost all materials and components there are made by asian slaves. Get rid of it now!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:36 PM
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If you’re one of the group who don’t obsess over women, then why give a shit what they think? Because it has real consequences in real life. Same way that minorities such as muslims are associated to terrorism, blacks with crime, etc. even when only a minority of them are into that, just because their ethnicity have slightly more presence in those things they are associated with that. Typical example is the HR bitch. If you speak to women at work but you are autistic, you are a creep. So many me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:26 PM
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Women are also depicted as pricesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:23 PM
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Good point, although feminist journalists are wildly obsessed with incels being violent against women even when most violence comes from their own partners, who they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:59 PM
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And since we put up with a society that didn't work for us for a millenia, a couple of generations of hardship aren't that much in the grand scheme of things. I don't get what you mean with this. Almost all societies worked in the past for what they intended to, otherwise they would quickly disappear. Sure, they were unfair to our standards, but our standards are inflated. In a sense, we would also quickly disappear if we were not bailed out. Our society is artificially stable and prosperous tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:57 PM
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I've hardly ever observed or seen women complain or demonize men who go about their business and live their lives. Because that is normalized. Men being called "pigs" in disney films is not condemned, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:49 PM
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Women live now in the most comfortable and equal times ever, so I guess that adjustment will be uncomfortable for many of them. But don't worry, women will probably do as good anyway from now on, but they will have challenges as men do as society radically changes after an unnatural long period of stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:46 PM
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I observed men and women are responsible/irresponsible in different categories. Men seems to be more responsible on finances long run, IDK if the reason is they have more disposable income or rather they take more risks, but at the end they end up better. Women, however, end up better taking care of their own health and social relationships, which are very important things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:42 PM
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That is how it was for most of history, and still is... we rely on younger people to pay and care for us, whatever you have kids or not. You can argue that it is even more selfish now because even childless people expect other people's children to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:39 PM
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Let's Consider that we are rich precisely because we create systems that we rely on, and are paid by younger population. Poor countries lack those systems so their children are like their insurance. So is in rich countries but the resource is pooled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:31 PM
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They want to string guys along to pay their bills, feed them, and entertain them... Risky investment to rely on your sexual appeal to retire, since such asset is ever decreasing in value. No wonder why average women are way poorer than men in old age, they probably rely too much on secondary incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:32 AM
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The economy will not be the only thing to crash. We are talking about a collapse in infrastructure, demographics, whole nations unable to even enforce basic laws for decades. Sure, we will get a balance and we will not go extinct, but it will be very very traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:29 AM
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Boomers will spend all their wealth before dying, and generation X and others are less selfish but still are big enough to consume most resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:29 AM
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I'm actually weirdly supportive of the oncoming population collapse. You know where to start. In any case, even if nothing changes, childless and single people will have to rely on themselves and their own savings the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:26 AM
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That seems to be a safer transition to lesser population without collapse, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:26 AM
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So your solution is that people should be coerced into having children under the threat of social exclusion in old age Is it better than to coerce other people's children to pay for your lifestyle. The arrogance of modern life was thinking they would be free from the needs of fertility and children... but they just moved the responsibility up, to the collective. Those people have to live up to the consequences of their own decisions to not make a family rather than expect other people's children…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:24 AM
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None of that tax money and wealth is worth much if there is no one to be paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:23 AM
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Yes, because otherwise there is no future for ANY generation. But don't worry, if they saved money they can live and produce on their own to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:22 AM
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Us childfree people are paying for others kids and seniors too. Im taxed to death, even more so because Im self employed. Yes, and it is a thankless job. In any case, no matter how much money you accrue if there is no one to be paid for when you get old. If there are no young people, your money is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:21 AM
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Exactly. It only makes sense to take care of the old IF there are younger people to take care of them in the first place. If population goes does, no tribe, modern or primitive, will focus on the old... they will focus on the young, the future. It is sad but what is the alternative? Suck the blood of the last younger people and go extinct? Even if we choose that path, it will be ugly, how people start to starve and kill each other for food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:20 AM
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Y2K was based on speculation on technological systems. Demographic shifts can cause huge stress. You don't need the end-of-world scenario, there are many possible hells in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:18 AM
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Those systems are pyramids and rely on new people being born. I do think they can return your money, though, but in this scenario there will not be fresh money coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:16 AM
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Sadly, social security also relies on younger people contributing. It is also a pyramid. I don't think social security will go away, but it will be way lower than people expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:15 AM
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People read the title and answer this same shit. I quote: he problem is not the population number, but the intergenerational population sustainability. We pay taxes for older people, but as fewer yonger people are born, there is no way younger people can pay for them all and for their own children Again, the problem is not about the number of people... and people who say this, like you, probably don't see themselves as part of the problem, even when younger people are more valuable than we as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:47 AM
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Not only childless old people, but clearly parents will have a benefit if kids give them some money, which is not guaranteed anyway. Person A contributed to an economy, but since the system relies on younger people working, that contribution is worth less than someone birthing future taxpayers. This is, of course, from a purely utilitarian point of view. Person B is an extreme example. Most younger people are net positive or at worse neutral to economic. The good thing is that probably they will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:58 AM
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Pyramid retirement plans are probably over. They simply will not make sense. IRAs and 401k are probably good because they use your own money and put it to work, to work on itself. Supposing there is no huge economic collapse or hyperinflation in the next few decades, it is the safest option. Even if a lot is loss to inflation, it can be good money to at least live a comfortable life. But personally I think the safest option is to buy property, and learn the most skills on yourself. That way you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:53 AM
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It does not matter the reason, though. It could be taxes, inflation, low wages... all of it or none of it, it does not matter at this point. The population hole is global, mainly in the west, but it is already there and it is slowly moving up, squashing older people against the reality that the money they saved will be worthless as there are fewer younger workers able to take it to do stuff (or they take more of it to do the same, reducing savings).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:49 AM
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To some sure. Some women rather have Chad for a short time than be with some man they aren’t attracted to for a lifetime. Some women are fine being single or dating around or whatever. True, but most men are just playing lottery... "just give my body to this guy so hopefully he falls in love because I'm so spacial and unique blah blah". Now, it is true some women do have fun and don't make it a big deal, just as those men, but sadly women are more likely than men to mix feelings and expectation …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:45 AM
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Unfruitful expectations of men no one desires anyway, so no one is hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:40 AM
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I'm not justifying their abominable reasoning of those childless single men, but it is like tribes in Africa burning down trees that were put to keep the desertification away. They don't think about the future, but the present necessities. You mention these issues affect men in the present. Precisely, many things we enjoy today cost natural resources and the future, but if you don't have children for a future, there is not much incentive to care about it. We will just think about our next curren…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:57 AM
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he bad boy is the guy that bully’s others for being uglier and weaker, not the guy that’s ugly and weak himself. I thought it was bad guy that takes risky things, use drugs, etc. that happened to start as an athletic bully but it not disciplined enough to keep that after school and is now fat. Maybe the term bad boy is too broad. Most bullies are not bad boys in any sense, and plenty of very attractive guys seem to incarnate the lover archetype rather than the bad guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:52 AM
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Single childless Men don't really have any reason to think about the future of the planet. At the greater scheme of things, the planet will die anyway soon or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:45 AM
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Women usually make exceptions to men that have something unique. Being a gang leader or moving thousands from drugs, living a dangerous life, makes you kinda unique. They cannot help it. But the idea that bad boys are handsome and hot is kinda of simplistic... most bad guys just look average at best. If we talk about truly average guys, of course, and not bad guys as an aesthetic. Maybe the last is what you mean? If it is so, then maybe most men shall adopt that aesthetic too. Tattoos and gang c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:40 AM
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Last time I checked, women don't need any talent to get sex from any man, but let's follow your logic. Is just having sex with Chad what women want and what they define as winning? Not relationship or commitment? No exclusivity? No family? Then yes, women win. They don't need many chads, just a few to fuck them once in a while. If that is the case, your argument is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:34 AM
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Very sad other men have to rescue them from their own terrible decisions, like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:28 AM
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A lot of bad boys today are genetic trash. Fat, ugly, low IQ... but they do have some good rizz and sexual appeal for the violence. Of course women get mad when that violence get used against them LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:27 AM
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Women prefer violent men, capable of protecting them from animals, other men and the environment. Of course, when those men turn against them and beat them almost to death, they want the men they despise to rescue them, pay for their bastards, and pay for their terrible moral decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:26 AM
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Nah, opportunistic corporations did not do anything wrong to men. Women did. The state did, and still expect men to sacrifice for this corpse of a country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:22 AM
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Women are being “used up” aka choosing the winners The winners are choosing like 200 women at the same time. You just get a share of that, that is why most women resent most men... because the only men they fuck don't have any reason to stick with them. Now, you claim I'm flipping the script, but remember genders are 50/50. For every loser man, there is an extra woman... used as fleshlight for chad. Either they get a fraction or chad or the rare possibility chad chooses them (at least for a few …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:20 AM
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I agree porn is fantasy, but what is the problem? That makes those men happy. Probably that is what keep most men from going rogue and destroying society as they did in the past if they had no women. That and also falling testosterone. Porn is way more realistic than what women expect, tho. They want a husband that is 6 ft, half a million and a huge dong... but men don't expect a porn star. They want average women as much as always they did. Too bad women are suffering a little of the effects of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:12 AM
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Remember this rule: Women always blame men for what they are guilty of. Women want to control men's sexuality by creating pussy scarcity. They literally has nothing else of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:07 AM
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Chad isn't exchanging anything he has to give up for sex. He fucks, and he's still just as attractive as he was before. Meanwhile a John is now 200-500 dollars poorer. That is still his money, and John is probably getting more for his money than in a deadbed marriage. BTW, Chad is already sucking out your youth and desirability to drop you on the streets the second you are too old for him. Chad today is also infertile, so no trap baby. That is a worse price for women, to be fleshlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:05 AM
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Everyone wants to get the most paying the least. That is why you hire migrants. That is why CEOs abuse workers. I don't get how you think this is male only... men end up paying more taxes and they are required to die for the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:52 AM
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Yeah, that is why so many men are learning to avoid taxes the most. Put money in other countries, invest in crypto. Don't work if you don't have to, work under the table. Let single moms and whores on their own, fighting their own Israeli and Ukranian wars they support so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:49 AM
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Haha. "Women must have sex with ugly men or society will crumble." This is pathetic, and evil. You can't force women to have sex with you. Haha. "Ugly men must work, protect women, sacrifice their own lives, pay taxes for other men's bastads and single moms... with no sexual or social reward, or society will crumble." This is pathetic, and evil. You can't force men to have work for a society that disavowed them. Let it rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:45 AM
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Or just watch porn and forget about women. Don't interact with them if they don't find them appealing, be cold with them at work. That way women do not feel creeped and those men are not hurt more. I don't get why women hate porn so much, since thanks to it those men are not violent as they would be in the past. Also interesting you want men to fight. Fight for what? Used up women in their 30s on pills? Good men, just as good women, are already taken in most places. At some point you have to giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:43 AM
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If young women have countless options, and still they don't got a good man to marry when they reach mid age, that says more about her inability to meet good man than her options. If being alone would be the best option, they would have stop trying long ago, and yet some of these women are still looking for guys in dating apps after like 10 failed relationships in a span of 10 years. Either women are being dishonest, or they are not very self aware. and even w/ o options will be ok with being alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:38 AM
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If everyone broke up with you, you are probable who is wrong. Taylor is a great artist, but clearly a terrible option for dating. That's OK, not everyone is successful in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:11 PM
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Yes. If guys can make some concessions, women can too... but women rarely grow without any hardship in those areas, so it is harder for them to change their ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:10 PM
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They do consider those options, though. Women don't even consider most men in their own class. The problem is that men get women that are too low class they may just get women interested in their money, so that is probably why that usually does not end in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:09 PM
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This is a good point. Why would men find richer women attractive for that reason, if they will probably never get that money?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:07 PM
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A lot of men feel weirdly emasculated if the woman makes more than he does. I think that is a natural response for many men, but even so men are hornier than that. Meanwhile women just discard options for stupid reasons that has nothing to do with that. Clearly men are too loose in their options and women are too restrictive. Maybe it made sense in the past when most social classes were closer, but today social classes are basically other universes... so you lose (or win) people of your universe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:06 PM
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I just hope my money was not used to try to fix their bad decisions, though. They can die if they want to choose those dangerous men. Not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:04 PM
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No, men's problem is mostly how they're socialized, their mentality and the fact that brain scans show (many) men are emotionally stunted. Why is it men's problems that women choose such a ridiculously small minority of men? I'm sure they can t least get math. By that logic it's mathematically impossible for most men to get women and they should give up going to the gym, or bothering women all together. Because they are horny? See the rest of nature. Males are always trying even if they never ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:02 PM
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Marrying up often works for women, but at the higher levels of income the pyramid gets steeper and steeper, which makes it significantly harder. I agree. This is also why almost no rich or famous man is complaining he cannot find a partner, compared to literal celebrities complaining. It is almost always unemployed and middle class men complaining about that they cannot find women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:16 PM
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But if what you say is true, then this complain of these professional women makes no sense. There are almost no men of good money complaining they cannot get a woman, and yet there are women that are very rich complaining they cannot get men. Why? If men dated in the same income bracket, then why are richer women in that bracket having issues finding men? Even worse... If men are more likely to be richer than women in the same social class, then those men should be desperate to find women as ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:13 PM
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Why do guys with no wife or children even work and pay taxes? My only motivation is not being homeless. Otherwise I would let society and myself rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:08 PM
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How it is incel crap to talk about the reality that women want a richer men to be able to raise kids and have a healthy family? It is not something strange or even new. Men have always been required to put more wealth or some advantage for the benefit of the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:05 PM
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Those assumptions clearly do not apply to many women, but it is true women want a man that it at least better than them in some category... better looking, celebrity of some kind, or richer. This by itself is not a bad expectation, but they are indeed limiting their options. They may as well meet the perfect man, but if he earns just 10% less, he is left behind. This clearly is a very strict limitation that many women apply, and as women move upper to the corporate world, they will only have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:04 PM
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It is probably a combination of pickiness (which is healthy at the right context) even at an age that they have way less options (women usually choose men their age or older, even when those men are more likely to be taken). These women are not bad and they don't necessarily deserve this, but they are playing a game too late or rather their parameters are too strict. The best example is Taylor Swift. She clearly wants a man at her level, not only on looks, but also on wealth. She is now trying w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:02 PM
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I dont serve any man You personally may not, but you see how women modify their bodies in dangerous surgeries, consider terrible diets, and inject themselves stuff just to be attractive to 20% of top men. Of course, mathematically it is impossible for those women to get those men, and age is against them. You guys are really super mad that women have options and it's not you they want Women are very mad they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Choose an abusive man? Choose a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:55 PM
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If you are talking about incel crime, you find that it is extremely rare compared to usual crime from men that often have partners. Women just want to hate incels because they hate autistic men, so they want to make it look worse than it is. Truth is that most school shooters and gangs, etc. are not incels. In fact, criminal lowlife is often hypersocial. You need to negotiate and compete and sneak to win. Except for lonely criminals, most criminals have to interact with others. I'm sure loneline…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:51 PM
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The high prices of cities often undermines any benefit of walkability... you have to buy elsewhere, or the closest things to you are very expensive, on top of high rent prices and sometimes even criminality too. But that was not always the case. For literal centuries cities were the option of opportunities and cheaper life, where people got rich and middle class could thrive. I don't get why so much changed in cities, so quickly, but I long for cities to become livable and affordable again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:44 PM
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IDK, many people have traumas and they attract bad people, even themselves being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:50 AM
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CMV: If you choose to pursue trashy dangerous abusive men over being single, stop expecting sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:50 AM
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You are right there is also a component of personal responsibility, but consider also that not all public parks everywhere are considered social... most of them today are used just for people running or celebrating a birthday sometimes. Bars, gyms, etc. not necessarily approve social interactions with strangers, but they rather welcome established groups or couples, and probably consider lonely people a loss going there with a lonely image.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:47 AM
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It is true men are lonely, but I don't think they are struggling with it as much as media claims. Women are less objectively lonely but feel lonely harder because they usually have higher neuroticism as personality, so I think it evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:45 AM
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Thank you for being morally consistent in this issue. I just have to add that men not looking for society does not mean necessarily they want society to fail. They just don't feel a personal and moral connection or responsibility to it, and I'm sure plenty of women feel the same. Remember humans lived for over a millioin years in tribes of only a few hundred people. Maybe when we live in cities, or even towns over that quantity of people, some people shut down and just look for themselves. Many …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:43 AM
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I thought it was the raise of suburbs and cars, but in the 70s and 80s suburbs were very common and vibrant, full of communities and culture. Beside, the issue is worldwide... Europe and especially Japan are very walkable, and they also have these social problems. All these issues obviously came with someone no one wants to admit: Internet and Smart Phones. Now, it would be naive to say this tech created these issues, but it opened a can of warms. Maybe people were not made to instantly communic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:39 AM
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The key here is that there is no common society anymore to create anything. The lack of social spaces and energy is a symptom of something deeper, way more rot than people will ever admit. Only surveillance tech and centralized government keeps this corpse of civilization running at this point, not society. Go to any city. All ethnic groups have their own isolated communities at this point, but even their groups are dying. Most people, however, live in the bubble of their own apartment. They fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:36 AM
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So we should enforce rules to force reality to be fair for women, even if their disadvantage is biological, but not rules for men to help in their disadvantages?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:32 AM
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if you feel no obligation to make the world a better place, why would anyone feel the obligation to treat you well? Most men do buy the propaganda and treat the world well, behave well... for what? To be used as meatgrinders in wars, slaves of corporation, money cows for whoring single moms and politicians. The male privilege women point out is, of course, the top 20% of men that they serve and suck. . Some men wake up to this reality and leave the plantation. Surprise surprise... they are not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:31 AM
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Which is why we want all guys to be the “nice guys”. Isn't that kind of unrealistic as long as people have free will? Racist and sexist comments will probably never go away. Creating a survillance tech state and a network of whistleblower to police conversations would probably be used by the system to reinforce itself, not to make women feel a little more comfortable. But I get your intention is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:25 AM
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Most autistic men never get into a relationship, ever. If it was about effort, I'm sure at least half of them would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:19 AM
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Sure, life is most unfair to men (although the reward is greater for the few that win), which is why feminism is so abominable by selling women as victims to scam innocent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:17 AM
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You can always live off the grid In most of the west that is de facto illegal to establish any residence or lifestyle on "public lands". That is not an option, and has not been for a very long time. Also society is not the government, which is made of politicians and corrupt burocrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:15 AM
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This has nothing to do with how effective women are at communicating, but the longer a message is the more likely is to miss details of it. Like taking food after a medication, it deludes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:43 PM
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The irony is that in the past chad had to enslave betas to pay for his lifestyle. Now women have to pay for chad. Also chad is not improving genes. He probably got a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:37 PM
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This is how it is supposed to be. Dating is not an activity to do for 5 or even 10 years, it is ideally quickly done with it the time you find your loving partner. I hope you are doing well and I'm glad for you and your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:36 PM
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Got called desperate a couple of times by men Don't let that put you down. If you do it just enough to meet the guys you want, you will not look desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:25 PM
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Men do restrict their speech if they talk to men that condemn such comments, or if they are in work environments, etc. If some man protests, I'm sure that will not change the other guy, he will just take back the topic in another time when the nice guy is not there. Men don't really admit cheating as much as people assume, because it may make other men skeptic of them so they will not want them around their own family. Men do brag about recent past sexual experiences in the right context, but us…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:06 AM
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Exactly. It can work, but the other part has to put a little more effort.. not even that much, just initially to break the ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:59 AM
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For every man that don't ever get a partner, there is an extra woman that has to compete for fewer and fewer men or share the guy and his resources with other women. Life is not fair for women either, as genders are 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:58 AM
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The term autism may not be appropriate to use in all cases, but many people have social anxiety and trauma issues, which are as real and hard to handle as autism and similar conditions. Autistic people can use masking, which requires a lot of effort, and most of them do for overcoming some obstacles while taking job interviews or similar... but it is not nearly enough. The mask eventually slips.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:56 AM
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Yes, and it is a real issue. Some autistic women can also have issues in dating, because they may be shy or never leave the house. I do thing it affects men a little more because men have to be more active in their pursue of women, and men are more likely to be autistic, but it also affects women. Why do people find it so strange that autistic people exist? Even if it is not autism, depression and social anxiety are also a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:54 AM
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Being weak as a man is lacking of virtue. Strength can be physical and emotional. It depends a lot on your frame and hormones, not virtue. A man can be evil and be very strong both physically and emotionally (e.g. jail). Virtue would be to stick to your values; If that is what you define as strength, then I agree. “Women can pick better men.” Who is saying that it is some other man’s fault when we choose bad men? Women usually jump to blame men as a class when a bad men they picked or they dated…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:51 AM
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if being friends with racists & bigots is important to you, the. No, we cannot be friends. If you have a man like that, you will eventually know. Men and women cannot hide their personality for long. Mods may have a lot of power on reddit, but in real life it is pointless at best and dangerous at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:45 AM
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Don’t condone “locker room talk”. Sexist misogyny flourishes when other men find it funny and don’t speak out against it. That is harmless, just as women talking about men as "pigs" or stuff like that. Realize “the bro code” of things like covering for someone cheating or being abusive is wrong. It’s cowardly. You don’t want to be honorable because a man won’t like you? Weak & pathetic. If the woman is part of my family, of course I would tell her, but if the guy is my friend and she is nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:44 AM
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Nah you guys wouldn't use that power to stop sexual competition if you had that power. You didn't use it to stop sexual competition when you had that power in the past. Getting a fuck regularly or a bride required being a competitive man way back when too. Enforced marriage rules were themselves the regulation of sex for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:41 AM
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Why do you think those men would listen to other men? Ironically those men are more likely to listen to their own women, though. I'm sure many criminal men fix their ways for their marriage and family, because they do listen and she puts a strong condition and don't keep fucking him until he fix his ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:41 AM
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The problem is that often guys can be misinterpreted as abusers or criminals for helping lost children. To be fair, there are many bad men and most crime come from men, so it is a safe assumption to make for good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:39 AM
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It's about making society safer for all women, including your potential daughters some day. Not to get your dick wet. As long as I don't have any wife or daughter, I will not care. It is not that I hate women, the issue is that I cannot care about every issue. I'll care about my current reality, such as saving money, my mom, siblings, etc. Also, if women treat most men as trash, I don't think those men have any moral or emotional reason to feel compelled to sacrifice themselves or intervene for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:36 AM
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I agree some women are manipulated into bad relationships. Still not other men's problems to handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:33 AM
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Women started “picking better men” and then we entered an epidemic of “male loneliness.” According to posts women make they pick the worst men, and of course, they pretend all men are as terrible as their bad decision. Women just want men to hold each other accountable for the behavior that creates a pipeline towards violent or incel behavior toward women Not my problem. It is up to women and those men. Beside, incels are not the men cheating and beating women... it is the men they are picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:32 AM
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Single moms do affect me and society as a whole, as many criminals come from single moms (there are good single moms, no one is denying that, but sadly no one parent can be as good as two). I also pay for their bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:31 AM
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Women are too picky and their picked options are terrible. Those things are not contradictory in any way. But you already know this. No need to pretend you got it wrong, you are too smart for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:27 AM
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I get women being trapped by men who have nice words and manipulators, but the time they find out they should just leave. No one can hide their true self for long if you are close enough to them. The problem is that many women think they can change these men and even wait for them outside of jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:27 AM
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80% of women's conversation is how they felt about something, even if we do care about the what, no one cares about how you felt or shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:26 AM
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The problem is that women talk too much... studies say they talk like 2x what men talk. That dilutes the value of the content of the conversation, and people naturally shut down to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:25 AM
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Not me, the blue pilled men often do agree with everything women say or claim, no matter how abominable, just to get closer to them and hopefully get sex. Some of them I cannot blame, they are unconscious. I get you can agree with women on many things, but it is also OK do disagree. No need to insult your whole gender just for feeling holier-than-thou. Reality is more complex than women good / men bad. The irony is that many women end up fucking misogynistic and evil men anyway, because whatever…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:22 AM
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Judges put children first, even if the child is not yours, so it is likely you will pay for it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:18 AM
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Saying most men have more sexual impulse and less self control than women is a very valid argument. It does not have to be a reality men and women like, in fact it sucks, but it is not men's fault to have such hormones and wiring. What's next? Shaming lions for not being vegans?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:59 AM
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You have a good point there to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:55 AM
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Not necessarily hypocritical if you believe men and women are fundamentally different. It is not hypocrisy unless they believed men and women are equal, but they don't believe such thing. But you can claim they are wrong and expose your arguments, and maybe you do have a point after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:54 AM
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Because that is often the only reason why bluepilled men do it: to gain grace from women and hopefully get sex. They are hypocritical men, pretending they are more virtuous and less sexual than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:50 AM
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You are defending a position women make to justify the responsibility of their own picks of shitty men (even women having way more options than men). It is a thankless job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:48 AM
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You can move past cheating, but consequences will stay forever in the bloodline. Seeing how your siblings have Moroccan DNA and you have Cantonese DNA, or any other nationality, is the most common way people find out the truth. No need for paternity test. Islam is right about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:47 AM
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That strategy made sense like 200 years ago. Today, it is a losing strategy. Children soon or later will get a genetic kit, and they will find out her mother / grandmother was a cheating whore. I guess that is partially why ancient people were so restrictive on women's sexuality. We don't need that anymore because we can easily know. The sad thing is the poor man paying for a bastard and her mother whore without knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:35 AM
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Why is it hypocritical? Hypocrisy is doing what you don't believe. I would say sexually frustrated bluepilled men fit that definition way better, and project their own frustrations on self aware men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:27 AM
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Just ask anyone who found out as adults that their dad isn't really their father. That precisely is why it is worse, because parental fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:25 AM
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Dude, women will never reward you for choosing their shitty sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:10 AM
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It is more consequential. You may end up raising a kid that is not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:09 AM
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Yes. That is the sad reality of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:09 AM
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The law does not punish picking the wrong father. Imagine being a woman. Having 10x more options to pick men. Still pick the men other women pick, a man with kids elsewhere, that don't care shit about her. Then blaming all men for her own disgusting decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:08 AM
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some dudes here slam single moms yet are completely silent on the matter of the fathers. Because women have more selective and sexual power, and yet they choose the same terrible men that have children with other women, were on jail, etc. On top of that some women actively try to separate the kid from the father even if the father is a good person after all. Meanwhile men are punished by law for abandoning kids, but women are not for trying to separate kids from fathers or telling their kids lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:07 AM
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It is terrible anyway to cheat for lust or not, but in most cases if the woman cheats it means the marriage was already over and probably the guy will have to pay for your bullshit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:05 AM
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Yeah, but it is the cheating guy who pays. When she cheats the innocent man can pay too for a child that is not his and there are basically no rights for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:03 AM
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Ummm, because there is nothing wrong with power? The problem is the sick denial around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:03 AM
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At some point in your life, you will have to take responsibility. If you still want to blame men for being a single mom loser age 20, you can, no-one is stopping you, but it's pathetic now and it will be pathetic then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:02 AM
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Agreed. Women rewarded men sex for just being attractive, so why those men will ever be good or commit to them? Women created their own hell, but make no mistakes... the hell we men are living is way worse, so no sympathy for women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:01 AM
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That is good, but you don't need many women in apps to distort the dating market for everyone... remember genders are 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:58 AM
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Full disclosure, I'm a man. I think status is at par with physical attractiveness. That is why many autistic attractive men cannot marry, most of them die alone, because they lack the social status that women seek. Next, you have resources. This is less important than the later, but it becomes paramount as commitment progress. Money, savings, a stable job and income, etc. are important for women because, I guess, they get pregnant and some want babies and that is costly and they need help for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:00 AM
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The thing is that dating apps actually hide a lot of information. Curated pictures and profiles, fake personas, not revealed personality, etc. Apps "add information" in the sense there are way more options, but they are indeed curated options you will lose aeons trying to explore and risk being used as a fleshlight or a walking wallet in every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:56 AM
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A lot of women don't need to use dating apps. Men hit them on instagram or other social media, and that is how they suffer the same effects of being on dating apps. Of course, men who are most likely to hit successfully them are men that already mastered the game, so those women are probably being used as masturbation tools. It is sad, but women, if a guy it is way over your league, assuming he will choose you for any kind of valuable commitment is risky and very arrogant. That is why men lose s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:55 AM
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I think apps just feel a void that is already there to try to fill a social gap that internet and other deep social changes caused. No one knows anymore what is the ideal life, whatever it makes sense to have a family, whatever it makes sense to love and risk your finances... so no one commits to anything. We are lost. On apps, women use apps as much as men, they just stay there less time because it works for them to meet men, then they delete it. Or they use instagram. Whatever those men use th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:50 AM
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The theory is that women use app for a few days, get a partner, and delete it. On top of that many women don't have dating apps but they do have instagrams and social media where men hit them. So women use apps as much as men, they just stay there less time because it works for them to meet men. Whatever those men use them as fleshlights or not is not up to the app. Women have all options and yet choose the options that are also wanted by 99% of women, but they are arrogant enough to think they …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:46 AM
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Yeah, even in countries where prostitution is legal, often men are logged and basically treated as criminals... indeed sometimes it is criminal to buy sex but not to sex it, which is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:38 AM
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But men has way less to lose. They don't spend 9 month with a baby, they are not weaker, etc. Men can live on their own even if it sucks and they hate it, while women during pregnancy need help. Women being irrational in dating is more costly than men being irrational in dating. Women kind of know it... that is why they are picky, until they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:37 AM
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The "incel" insult is kind of outdated already. It assumes women's holes are a kind of rational validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:34 AM
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What it means that porn rots your brain? Is that a diagnosis or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:32 AM
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Men struggle with finding potential suitors than women simply because the average woman has higher standards than the average man. I mean, women get pregnant, so it makes sense they are pickier on that... but also they drop any standards when the guy is attractive enough. It is very animalistic, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:14 PM
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I remember reading news of men being arrested for not paying dates while women can walk away without paying their fair share. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:13 PM
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all the sexual interest women get from men below their league is worth nothing. NOTHING. It Actually, I would argue that is the only value women get from those men. The status and social attention is what feeds the woman's egregore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:11 PM
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Porn is the final solution to the woman question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:10 PM
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Point is that no one needs to defend any of these activities and they are no one's business. If you enjoy casual sex or porn that is the only positive needed to justify it. Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:09 PM
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You tell me! Are men here overall very unhappy with not having a girlfriend? Yes, but this is a forum about interaction between genders. I also add to the conversation that some men are OK with porn and it does not affect their relationships or rather porn helps them live sexlessness better. Not every man has the option to a relationship, and on top of that take them the option to have orgasms using porn is very cruel. Yes, society is designed for couples, but I think that is bad because it ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:07 PM
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Some of us are shy or autistic and undesirable anyway, so porn "effects" make no difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:02 PM
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Well, it cannot be taken away. Just don't shame people who are struggle with many things and use porn as a relief. Be empathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:01 PM
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That is very sad, but I'm sure it is like blaming alcohol or smart phones for your problems... it depends on the couple itself. I'm sure porn is not a problem for most couples and certainly most for men who just want to pleasure themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:00 PM
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Pick your poison :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:59 AM
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Still better than telling them not to, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:59 AM
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If reality sucks, don't blame porn for being chosen as a better more reliable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:55 AM
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I think that is the future. We live in post-marriage, post-family times. Men not going out is only a tiny portion of a greater problem anyway, and often it is not their fault, they literally have no friends or social life as a reason to go out, so no partner, so it becomes a catch-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:54 AM
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Technically if someone is an alcoholic and wants to drink himself to death, that is his prerogative. I'm sure porn is way less damaging than alcoholism in almost every metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:14 PM
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I love your comment. You put it perfectly. I have to add that I'm not saying porn is good in every way. It has many downsides, but it is a good relief that deserves its credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:13 PM
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Porn is useless All media entertainment is fundamentally useless then, pornographic or not. The porn industry is evil as fuck Can be said about even "noble" industries such as big pharma. All big industries have a dark side. Porn is not a substitute for sex, love or intimacy No one said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:11 PM
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... actual motivation to get lai Which in many cases will not be reciprocated for many men. If your intention is to use sexual frustration for those men to be motivated to pay taxes and work, sorry, those times are over. Society is not entitled to my productivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:08 PM
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the likelihood that a man ever will leave his bedroom and find someone. This is a myth, though. Most men work, do stuff, and yet they watch porn. I'm sure there is problematic porn about rape and such, but I guess it is not the most common kind of porn and most men don't feel comfortable watching such content.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:06 PM
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If you get your sexual release with porn, you are less motivated to actually approach women and get to the state that even you think is better than porn. Is that a feature or a bug? I mean, real women are costly, less attractive than porn actors, they probably have kids of other men and they have mental issues to make a stable family. Just as most good men, most good women are taken. It makes sense for men to find a more available, more democratic way to get an orgasm. Porn is one way. I agree s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:02 PM
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Overall porn seems to make people who watch it happy, while others complain about it. Yes. Weird how much women care about what men who they disavow and despise do with their own penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:00 PM
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It is just a form of entertainment. Streaming services are not natural either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:59 AM
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That's why porn is better than nothing...it lets average men know that being a man is not a sexual death sentence. You just have to chad up through reincarnation or plastic surgery. They can also get orgasms watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:57 AM
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Actually, manosphere content is very anti-porn... which is ironic because it is such a relief for men to have it. The disservice exists, but it started when society rejected those men. Why you make such a big deal about men that society wants DEAD?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:55 AM
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What is wrong with incels (who are autists), divorced men, and other lonely men finding relief in porn? You don't seem to be very empathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:54 AM
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A lot of women follow celebrities having kids on their late 40s or even 50s. The problem is that they believe they will have access to their same lifestyle, medical treatment and help if they choose to have kids at that age, but that is an assumption based on skewed observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:54 AM
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Adoption is not the same. Most people want a child with their own DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:52 AM
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Are you open to fuck those men to give them more options? Are you favoring prostitution or sex work for those men to be relieved? Are you being empathic to men not being genetically privileged? Probably not, so don't complain about the options I give them if you want to take any other option from them. The only low standard here is how these men are treated by society and women for just... what? bad luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:44 AM
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If people can cheat, they will cheat, men or women. Men go out for cheating more because it is harder for them to get women, but for women cheating is as easy as going to a bar and smiling. It is sad, but that is how humanity is, and that probably will never change. Women are hypergamous for sexual and desires reasons. They don't really care as much if the guy is a felon or cheats on them, they care if the guy is hot or some other key feature they cannot get in other men. You see how often women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:41 AM
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I get the spirit and I agree with it for issues that you can fix, but not all issues can be fixed. For example, being short or autistic. Bad genetics or autism is not a problem that can be fixed anyway. No man chooses porn as a first option. They just don't have any other option left to funnel desires imposed to them by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:38 AM
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Yes, you can conclude some feelings and irrational but don't have much power over them. I suggest to those undesirable men to just stop interacting with women, stop helping women, stop talking to them if possible, etc. It is way better "revenge" for those men than to play nice and then snap and do something they cannot undo, as some desperate men do. If they cut women, then at least that is seen as a retribution for their own lives, women are safe and they are not creating interactions that feed…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:32 AM
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Maybe because they are right about their criticism of porn, I just find the upsides are greater. Porn is a way to funnel desires that will always be there anyway, but are not always welcome by women. What should those men do? Suffer sexual frustration? Be delusional about someone ever loving them? Assigned wives is over. Those men will be alone forever. Porn is empathy for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:28 AM
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If you don't have any relationships, or you are undesirable as most men, then porn is a good companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:22 AM
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Why would be illogical for men to blame women but not illogical from women to blame men? Truth is that you have control about your looks and personality to a point, but if the other gender does not consider you attractive, even if technically there is nothing wrong with you, you will feel resentment and that is expected and natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:19 AM
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You are not an ugly man, so porn for you is not the only option. Good for you, but cannot be said the same for many if not most men who are heavy consumers of porn. We have to be empathic to them too. Precisely porn is what frees some men from sexual urges and women. They can just fap and forget, so I think porn is an ally here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:17 AM
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I'm supposed to not agree, but I agree. I would prefer my children to skip studying than to skip parties and socializing. I don't want them to live the hell I lived, and yet we put studies on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:15 AM
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Why would that affect interactions with women, if women don't want to interact with those men anyway? If porn truly worked for that, women would not be complaining everyday online about being approached. If porn stops "creepy" men from wanting women, then it does a terrible job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:08 AM
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I guess it is a net positive for women that sexually frustrated creepy men are releasing themselves with porn and not trying to date them, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:05 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-men-relationships-more-attractive-dating-romance-university-study-a8185026.html
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:03 AM
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Precisely older women did not do it because social rules and patriarchy, but as we removed that, men and women don't have any reason to respect others' relationships and families. We are entering to uncharted territory. So it makes sense for some men to just not play the game, at least for just a few months, and release themselves with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:01 AM
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So no point on shaming those poor souls :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:59 AM
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I mean, if nofap helps those men, I'm glad for them. Truth is that statistics are clear. 80% of men are not desirable. Why expose women to approaches from those men who they don't even consider humans? Better give them porn so they can at least not get depressed and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:58 AM
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I never had a relationship, you are right, but I have had sex. Porn changed my life. It helped me focus on my job, work, and retirement goals even when no one ever loved me as a person. Porn is not the problem, it is the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:56 AM
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Your urges are better directed into other things and used as actual motivation to get laid Sadly, if you are a middle class average male, such effort is in pointless. Women rather would fuck men who are better looking or richer than men their own level. Social skills are not that significant, and many men are autistic or shy. Even if there was one woman that liked you, why suffer so much rejection and spend so much money in something that may end up in nothing anyway? Is it really worth it when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:55 AM
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If porn causes issues, you can stop at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:49 AM
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Sadly, that includes married men, which probably will never marry them. Women prove again that they rather fuck taken men, even at risk of getting nothing, than men who are actually single at their own level. Clearly most men and women will lose in this arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:48 AM
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What is available for women may include married men that work with them. Clearly women prefer to fuck men who are taken and high value, even if any kind of relationship is impossible, than men who are single forever. Certainly I don't see the majority of these women ever forming a family with these men, and the sad thing is that most women want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:46 AM
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Most married men are watching porn. Are those men also incels? Imagine setting your value as a man on the other gender's hole LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:44 AM
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Why would porn impede a man from his responsibilities? In fact it can motivate them to work to buy better porn. On relationships, most married men are also watching porn with no issues. Men who are not desirable will not magically get relationships by stopping watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:43 AM
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For most men not getting any sex anyway, ED is not a problem. Men will not magically become desirable by just keeping themselves sexually frustrated. In fact, that frustration can be used by women to manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:41 AM
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Which is mathematically impossible, since not every woman can have the best man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:39 AM
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I mean, if you want a break from porn and that is positive for you, just take it. The problem is that a lot of people attribute almost supernatural features to nofap, and at the end it is not that beneficial to be worth the sexual frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:39 AM
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Also, many men were killed in war in recent history, the fact that men aren’t dying as much is leading to a surplus of men that women don’t want. It is true war killed many men through history, but we had countries with literally centuries of peace and non conflict. The idea that in the past everyone was at war all the time is twisted by history, which focus on war, but most of regions for most of time were full of relatively peaceful times. That may explain some demographic changes, but not sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:37 AM
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The reason most men don't have a partner today is because most women have chosen to be childless. It is true women are more likely to be childless than ever, thanks to birth control and such, but most childless women actually wanted to have a family and now they never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:34 AM
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Women want only a few men other women, not men at their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:31 AM
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A lot of people believe they are doing something wrong by watching porn, or they feel inadequate for that. I'm just telling them this: Your urges are valid. Your porn use is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:29 AM
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There are many arguments against porn, but the upside is way greater. I'm not trying to convince people who are against porn, but most of their arguments are on bad faith and are not very honest. They just want to demonize porn for other agendas such as women rights or feminism, not because they care shit about men or their well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:15 AM
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Right now, as a 21 year old, my male life would be almost identical to my female life. Men usually require another decade to be taken seriously by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:10 AM
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Don't have kids with guys that use you as a fleshlight. They will never stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:02 AM
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your entire reasoning proves why men are lonely lol. Women are the most depressed. Imagine living in tutorial mode and being depressed LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:02 AM
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Of course some women are this way but compared to men they are far more likely to foster higher quality friendships. How do you measure the quality of a relationship? It may as well that men have fewer friends because they are higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:01 AM
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Don't lose time on it. It is basically ChatGPT feminist vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:59 PM
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You sound arrogant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:57 PM
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Creating and nurturing meaningful relationships (romantic and platonic) requires a level of empathy. You need to be interested in the person and who they are, their thoughts, behaviours etc. You need a level of thoughtfulness and consideration to demonstrate that you appreciate they’re a part of your life. You did not only try describe men... you don't ask them anything, you made up a shitty explanation in your imagination to sell yourself better than men and feel better about this stupid post a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:42 PM
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Women have been punching bags for all of time Women have been the most privileged class in every society ever. War starts in Ukraine? Women can move out with no problem, but also they can vote for what affects every man and men not only have to pay with their lives but also pay more taxes for their own death and keep your bastards alive. All your family get killed? Women at least get taken alive and get a new life fucking the same men that killed their husbands and sons, as if nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:50 PM
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Well, what do you expect them to do? Ummm... be morally consistent? Stop gaslighting an lying even your own sons? Apparently that is too hard to do, so no wonder why almost all patriarchal cultures get it: Ignore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:48 PM
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Women are mad for living in the best times ever for being a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:47 PM
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Exactly. Ignoring them can also be offensive, but usually they cannot do much about it. Meanwhile, any other kind of interaction can be used against you. You would be surprised how easy is to work, complete things and do your work without even interacting with women. I wonder how relevant are woman at the work environment after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:46 PM
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How the fuck do you expect being liked as a woman if you have despised men for decades? Do you really not expect a pushback? Women get exactly what they deserve and I hope it gets way worse for them and there is no way back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:44 PM
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I have attended groups as such, but usually they are made of established groups, and they don't stay around to make any significant connections. In fact, I don't know anyone who have meet someone else that way that they did not meet before in school or somewhere else. I'm literally trapped in life. The West is basically an open-space jail for anyone who lost social support at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:40 PM
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You are right. Now I get why people use drugs, even risking addiction and despair. So many "recovered drug addicts" talk about these stories so enthusiastically. Maybe drugs had a positive impact overall, and the tradeoff on their health was worth it. But you cannot say this in real life without getting in problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:11 PM
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Women expect men to pay, invite, etc. so in a sense they all are paid by men, and so is most of their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:00 PM
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The city is full of competition and established social groups. It may be better to date people you already known growing up in your neighborhood or small town.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:59 PM
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A disturbing amount of people's lives have been going Home, Work, Home, Work, Home, Work for years and years. Well, going alone on my own is not an option. Women don't like men who don't have a group of friends or social life to look to. It is literally over if your friends moved on or you moved from another city and you have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:57 PM
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Some of us have literally no option but online dating. What to do if you have no friends because you moved or your friends moved? Go alone to a bar or club as a loser? It is pointless to go out and try to date if you don't have much social life going on, and for men that is very hard to develop after school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:56 PM
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good point, important to consider too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:43 AM
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It is the racist / fascist panic now. Same energy of people telling everything you like is sexist, homophobic, etc. but they are not self aware to see the irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:33 AM
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We already see this accelerated in Japan and South Korea. The West is just like 10 years behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:55 AM
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I guess it is like Japan, which is full of Porn and sexual toys, but people stop having sex with each other. Sexual open markets usually end up working for just a minority of people. Marriage was invented in many cultures at the same time for that reason, to create some regulation in the market. However, would society return to regulating sexual market? I doubt it, but it may fall and decay, and birth rates go to hell, and be replaced by other cultures that do observe such strong gender roles an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:54 AM
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The age of consent in 1890 in the US was 12 or lower. It is still very low in many countries and states, and those state that have higher consent age often have Rome and Juliet laws so that numbers usually does not mean nothing. It is more a cultural issue. Just because the consent age was 12 or 10 it does not mean marriage at that age was common, and in fact there were many restrictions, such as having to be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:51 AM
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It really is sad. Also tough for good decent men who would never touch a kid. Yes. I also think that put more effort on women, who have to be more hypervigilant while in the past they left kids do their things most of the day. It also puts more pressure on women, who are seen as the only trustworthy ones, and less autonomy on kids, which may influence why most courts give custody to women. But it is hard to get rid of the fear of abuse now that we are aware of it, so I'm empathic to their concer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:49 AM
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I would not say women = bad, but women = lack of self awareness. It is sad, but to be fair it may not be women's fault. Society sometimes babysits some groups and then expects them to perform as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:47 AM
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Good point. Porn also twist the views of men on women. Sadly, I don't think porn is ever going away, and it kind of replaced prostitution in the past. We will have to adapt, and this is just another adaptation of it, although I don't think it is a necessary positive adaptation... it feels like taking away some autonomy and collective trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:43 AM
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because children are now respected as autonomous proto adults instead of parental property I would say it is the opposite, since you basically have to be an helicopter parent. But yes, it seems they are treated as adults for choosing their genders and stuff like that, but then as disabled children you cannot let go alone to the supermarket.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:56 PM
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Exactly. Imagine being a woman: Having endless options to date men, like 50 birth control methods, abortion rights in most places, and total power to give the baby in adoption... and still blame men for their terrible decisions. You cannot make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:50 PM
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Then perhaps men as a whole should be more careful about their sperm? Men literally have virtually no reproductive rights after cumming. Abortion, adoption, most birth control methods... are on women's power. So yes, I blame women for their terrible decisions, because they have all sexual and reproductive power, fuck it up, and still expect men to fix their shitty lives for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:49 PM
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I would not welcome a new man around my kids, IDK, seems dangerous. Those guys also seem to be very horny to become a parent to a stranger's kids. Would you trust such men? Meanwhile, single moms are praised everywhere as warriors or something like that, for just doing what they are supposed to do... and they don't do it so good anyway often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:47 PM
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WTF I'm not insulting you, I'm using an analogy. Kids want to grow up because they believe they will get more fun and have a more satisfying life, but reality is that adult life is probably worse, more stress, more hurt, etc. Same with being virgin, we romantice having a partner even if it is not significantly better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:39 PM
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So, why they need to lie so much about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:36 PM
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Women are very eager to open borders to men that don't regard women as equals, though. They also sign stuff to release criminals and date criminals. They also turn down laws to protect rapist from deportation. Women are their own worst enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:36 PM
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Women are also more likely to be poor, even having all institutions and society on their side, women find new ways to lose in tutorial mode. They may earn more and have studies, but they are terrible with money, and worse if they are single moms. I guess they do this to get money from the guy. Women want dick and money from criminal guys, more than the well being of their own daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:32 PM
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The only reason women feel entitled is because they don't realize they will get old and lose every sexual edge they have in less than a decade. Yes, women are entitled because they believe their hole will not get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:30 PM
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Don’t romanticize a curated idea of the past when you know nothing about what life was actually like in that time, especially for women and young girls. The 80s and 90s are not that in the past, many people lived it and can corroborate what I'm saying. No one is romancing the past by just pointing out some positive or less bad aspects of it. It is like saying that I'm romancing Africa because they have a diversity of crops, while the fact is that Africa is worse on almost everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:29 PM
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But crime overall is less than ever, though. Sure, we can put kids in a bubble until they are like 18 and keep them totally safe, and then wonder why they don't leave the house, why they don't know how to make friends, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:22 PM
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I'm not talking about how real the show is, but the fact that the audience of the time it was aired on did not necessarily see friendship between a grown man and a girl as strange or alien. Most people who grew up in the 80s and 90s also know how it was to just go on their own, even being kids, and meet new people, grown ups or other kids. Clearly the views and assumptions about society are way more sexual than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:20 PM
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I think being an incel or virgin can be blessing, but since there is no perspective, it feels like a curse. It is like being a child... you believe being an adult is so much more fun (LOL).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:46 PM
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Interesting theory, it may explain a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:40 PM
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https://youtu.be/vjqt8T3tJIE?si=bezF-TDDrSWS\_lsa very nice video, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:25 AM
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That ismore a lack of self awareness, not arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:21 PM
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By that logic, love is not a thing because women want to marry criminals, rich people that made their money with corruption, and they manipulate men to get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:52 PM
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Even if no man cares, HR cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:49 PM
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I agree, but on some aspects men do get less judgement. For example, men are judged less for being careless on sex, while women are judged more on that, yet to be fair that judgement often comes from other women. On the flip side, men are judged more harshly if they don't deal with the consequences of sex. Meanwhile women can abort, give to adoption and have 50+ ways of birth control... men are just told to shut up and take the father responsibility they were forced into... and it is funny how p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:48 PM
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Women are rarely truly single, though. They always have orbiters that do what their would-be husbands and boyfriends would do, such as helping them move or pay them food.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:45 PM
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Make no mistake, I kind of agree with this, but for people who truly want a partner and make a family, it still is not enough to have a comfortable life, they want a life full of love and company... and not getting that is frustrating. But if there is a drug or something that make people think like that being single (first we would go extinct but anyway) then I would indeed suggest people to take it to get that attitude with makes logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:43 PM
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I can’t force other women to have sex with you No one is even suggesting that. In the same token, women are not entitled to any men's protection, seat on a bus, consideration for being women, money, etc. but sadly the state basically forces men to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:42 PM
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Men prefer to be unhappy than alone Women prefer to be alone than unhappy I disagree, but I do get your point, I just find it too simplistic. Women are never truly single, they can get dick with an app in 10 minutes, and they have orbiters open for a relationship at any time. So women are happy 'single' because they have options to not be single. Just as people can choose to be hungry so when they go to the restaurant they can eat a lot more. Men are also more comfortable being alone than women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:41 PM
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I hate to say this, but I think humans are social only when they have to. Since we don't have to be social to survive anymore, we don't socialize. It sucks because socializing is something that sucks short term but long term makes life satisfaction higher, just as exercise or working hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:37 PM
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I mean, if you are single and you cannot find a partner, it is better to get the best out of singlehood. Ironically that probably also increases the chances to find a partner because they want someone who is happy with themselves. However, some people put this to the extreme and make single people struggling sad. I would rather say nothing to them unless they ask, just be there as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:35 PM
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Yeah, that is a risk worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:33 PM
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Men often see sex as a part of love. Why not? After all, neither of us would not be here without sex. The idea of sex seen as something nasty or predatory is rooted on seeing sex as isolated act, or abuse, but a couple with romantic love and no sex is also doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:32 PM
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Oh no, men want love and sex... the horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:38 AM
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Partnered people still get more sex, they also often keep a richer social life as they relate to other couples and people with children. Very few single men can keep a life full of sex. Freedom is great, but if that does not include the freedom to share it with someone and yet that is something you want, then obviously it will suck... and most people eventually want a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:37 AM
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Women here brag about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:35 AM
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All this is just conditioning in your mind Psychologists say that social relationships are fundamental for a healthy life. I don't think it can be compensated by just conditioning your mind or deconditioning it, but I don't doubt it can help. That sounds like a problem of maintaining friendships Even if you have wonderful friends, a lot of them have family and move to other places, so those friendships become less accessible to go out and socially enjoy life. It has nothing to do with ability to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:35 AM
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I would actually argue the opposite... marriage was invented for women, to make men stay after she gets pregnant, to force them to pay and defend them and shame or punish men if they leave. Men don't really need to get married unless it is a good way to get frequent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:05 AM
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It baffles my mind that men even consider single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:03 AM
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The early societies of common goods are a meme. Sure, they shared goods, and also raped and killed other tribes for their resources. The sharing view was only limited to a small group in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:02 AM
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Property isn't actually natural Animals can be very territorial. I would argue that is a primitive form of property.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:01 AM
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Incel shooters is not a crisis. In fact, shootings are relatively rare and the chances of dying in one are astronomically low even in USA. Meanwhile, criminal men that women keep fucking women anyway are an issue. Men don't have to be lonely to be shooters or criminals, in fact criminals seem to do pretty well with women. But yes, mental illness and loneliness is a concern, but again, I don't think it is a crisis. It is just a perfectly valid response to society today... unless you also think so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:59 AM
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> if men valued company more than loneliness, then they would never pull away. Quite a lot of self-deletion suggests otherwise. Again, men have always been more likely to kill themselves, just as women are more likely to pretend to. Men in the past were more together than today, and yet this fact has not changed proportionally if loneliness was the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:56 AM
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stop trying to turn us into girls This. It does not work, it is stupid and men actually are easier to deal with if you give them a purpose. The "therapy" for men can be a negative cost as they actually produce when they work together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:54 AM
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Men are more disposable as individuals, but as a group it is the only thing that let the facade of women's rights be around. Otherwise women just would become prostitutes as in Venezuela. So I would not bit the hand that keeps women comfortable (women cannot even change a fucking wheel).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:53 AM
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Yeah, but men can be alone and do relatively OK for long time, even if it causes problems, but not necessarily emotional... just losing social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:51 AM
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It seems men have a more accurate and valid definition of loneliness, while women would rather do better if they define it as "overwhelm", which is a perfectly valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:50 AM
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Imagine defining your value on how agreeable you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:47 AM
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Agreed. Besides, there are countless married men that feel very lonely and depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:07 AM
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Exactly, that is what I'm trying to say. It is laughable women saying that hypergamy is natural and therefore should be accepted... but I doubt they also want to be property again and lose rights, which was also part of this dynamic. Of course they don't want nature, they just want what is convenient for them, just as everyone else, but they are being dishonest by using nature as an authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:06 AM
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Agreed, but many people still find individualism worth it. In fact, plenty of people could move back to their parent's house, as people lived most of history before marrying, and yet they prefer to pay a high rent because individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:04 AM
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Exactly, it is like MSM and women rather are trying to diagnose men rather than ask them. They just want to find an issue that they find problematic and claim men have to be X or Y (usually work to pay more taxes to the meat grinder) and then die to be happy. LOL. Although suicide and depression has risen for everyone, especially after the pandemic, men have not got worse than other groups relative to how they started. There are real crisis men have, like you know, being drafted to a failed war …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:03 AM
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But I guess men know that they really mean “sexless” Yeah, it probably is the case, but also remember that there is a bias online... such as chronically online men (like me) who never go out because there is not much for us outside. But most of that content are rather stupid articles of asking men how many friends they have. They say one or zero and then everyone freaks out, women blame misogyny for some reason (even when violent and rapey men get plenty of sex), government blame men of being to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:58 AM
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If society sucks for men, and there is no much for them, the confort is rather on getting away from it. Why rely on a system that takes from you more than it gets you? Let it die, and all the weak people and women that rely on it... well, they are on their own. Not men's problems. For ages men have abandoned whole civilizations to barbarians. Same with that ship before titanic, where men saved themselves and literally everyone else died. Society had to rewrite honor code for that not to be the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:56 AM
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Being comfortable by yourself and loneliness are not the same thing. No, I get it, the problem is that the term loneliness have a very negative connotation and yet there is no separate neutral or positive word for loneliness. Lonely is the closest, but it still negative. I get your concern, but the problem is the lack of terms in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:54 AM
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Not talking to your friends for 2 years and crying about being alone is no one’s problem but your own. Exactly. Same for women who choose abusive men again and again. I get they fall for them once or twice, but they keep falling for them countless times and expect others to protect them. No one can truly help those women but themselves if they decide enough is enough. Same with male loneliness, if it is a problem for them... loneliness is not always a problem for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:53 AM
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I'm sure suicide can happen for countless things, and loneliness is only one of them. If anything, loneliness makes suicide easier, but I don't think it is the cause. Men have life harder by default. People trust them less, they have to work harder for what women have by just having a vagina, they have to work and on top of that keep what they already have, and no one is there to defend them as women have. What is wonderful is that men are not even more depressed and they still pay taxes to this…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:52 AM
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Yeah, I wonder why do women care so much? Governments are literally genociding right now their younger population for a lost war, and yet somehow "male loneliness" is the problem. I think women empathize with male loneliness, but they feel it as women feel it, not as men feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:49 AM
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That is a good point. The only advantage of hypergamy is genetic, and yet now even that is taken away by anticonceptives. At the end the only women that want children just have children with the first loser they get before they get too old to reproduce, which undermine the very purpose of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:48 AM
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I'm not sure if the "lonliness epidemic" is anything more than natural selection at work? Not all males get to mate. In all speices. I don't get why you make it about reproduction? First, it is not natural selection, but sexual selection. But lets discuss it. Since a few centuries from now, the most productive men are not always the most successful reproducing. For example, Isaac Newton. Civilization is indeed a decoupling of reproduction from success. Literal criminals and rapists having childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:47 AM
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Well, only women can really be independent and do their own stuff instead bitching and legally bullying men to do stuff for them and pay for their bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:32 PM
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If hate for women was a cause, then why are women dating abusers? Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:28 PM
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I cannot deny there are good single moms that do the best for their children, but also it is not ideal for the child to be raised by a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:35 PM
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Women have birth control, abortion (in many places, regardless of moral issues), right to give it to adoption, etc. Unbelievably they feel victims of motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:33 PM
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Women can literally be narcissistic or dumb as a coconut. Neither matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:32 PM
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Sure, but it is less likely. Women have more reproductive options, from most birth control methods, to adoption to abortion. Therefore, if women have a baby, it is likely because they wanted at some point. Men? Not much to say, they are often forced to be fathers before they are ready or committed. No wonder they give the minimum possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:31 PM
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I get my pick of good men, bad men, good dick etc. Why would I want to give that up? Women have way more options, and I'm not asking them to give up on that. It makes sense for women to be picky: They want a good provider, good genes, etc. No one is denying that. I do condemn women often here deny that reality and tell LIES to even their own children, gaslighting. No, mother, your autistic kid is considered trash for life. He will never be loved and you brought here a person to suffer. You makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:17 PM
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and average women admitting they're average I think would go a long way to removing that root cause. Good point, although probably best chances for that are if men stopped paying taxes for their bastards (half women are single moms) that would help a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:01 PM
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Good point. Most men and women are unaware, but I do still believe those forces are there in some form.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:59 AM
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The irony? Those minority criminal men are not the ones having problems finding love and sex, in fact women are all over them. Women love signing petitions to release them early, to open borders to import unknown men who no one knows if they are criminal or dangerous. So yes, women all bought this to themselves. Clearly, Women's desire for men is not conditional to men being good or bad, misogynistic or not. Men as a category may commit the most crime, and yet they also created the very civiliza…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:58 AM
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Well, if you wanted a loving husband and children in a stable family so they don't grow to be incels and whores, then there is value on a good man as father. Sadly, women don't even consider human most good men, and men they consider desirable are not necessarily good fathers. There are simply not enough good men available that are also top 10%. Women have no problem sacrificing the well being of their children for good dick... no wonder why half of them are single moms. So, honestly? There is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:55 AM
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I’m a pretty average dude but I have zero problem dating lol. Then you are not average. Statistics say that 60% of single men cannot even get a date or sex. You just refuse to accept your genetic or neurotypical privilege by luck, which has nothing to do with talent or ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:51 AM
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but women aren’t going to start dating men they don’t like Did you read my post? That is literally what the title says. I only hope men stop paying taxes and contributing for nothing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:46 AM
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Using your sister example. I'm sure the sister has told her brother multiple times to change his behavior. Sure, but some things cannot change. Height, bone structure, autism, etc. Those men are doomed, and yet women still appeal to this claim that men can fix themselves and get dates. It is basically shifting ALL blame on men, rather than luck or women. It does not matter how much a 5'5" guy fix himself. He has to work 10x harder to get what a guy half fee taller would get for just existing. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:22 AM
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A few points to consider: A lot of couples you mention meet before internet. Internet has made the field harder to most men, waaay harder, and also created a way for people in couples to cheat. Younger men are struggling way more than their parents or grandpas at the same time. This creates a lot of resentment in them. Even if they find women later in life, they will resent those women for choosing them later and after they got money. This forum is about dating and genders. We are talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:18 AM
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I still don't get where that higher standard come from. From the same people that I'm competing against? From the Creator after making this universe? Maybe we shall higher moral standards, but on our terms, not social terms that want to keep most people as safe tax sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:13 AM
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A lot of those relationships were formed pre-dating apps, and most of those marriages are just second choices women take when they have baby fever or no commitment options from chad. Most of those marriages will not last a decade, though. You have a floating population of people just changing husband/wife every few years, destroying their finances and children's life in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:11 AM
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I don't think it truly is most men that have a problem with dating Women Say 80% of Men Are “Below Average”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:10 AM
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The most equalizing thing I've seen is the raising cases of bystander effect around women being attacked, and men doing nothing. See this example. Finally men are not working for free and risking their liver being stabbed for a group that scorns half of them for what their womanizer ex 10 years ago did to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:07 AM
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Considering how shitty dating is for men, I think men cheating is justified after being treated as trash by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:03 AM
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Why would women care? Why would women have empathy for their sons and brothers struggling, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:02 AM
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Precisely... My post is actually explaining why it would not matter even if women cared. So you don't have to care. It would not make any difference. I don't encourage men to care about women's issues either, though. if they are beaten by their boyfriend, let it be for choosing that man. We are not the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:00 AM
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It's not women's place to fix male loneliness. Why are you so defensive? I never claimed it is women's job to. By the way, in theory is not men's problem to fix women's problems either, yet women bitch women men don't support stuff such abortion or shit. Why is that his sisters problem? What do you expect the sister to do? It seems you stopped reading. See, I add here the next sentence To be fair, this is not women business either and their empathy is useless in this case to fix that. Just point…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:58 AM
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You don't behave in an upstanding manner because it gets you mad pussy. You do it because it is the right thing to do and you want to live in an upstanding world. The moral argument falls on its own weight if the world is unfair in the first place. It is like asking athletes to play by the rules when the game is a mix of children, older people, disabled people, etc. Now, I do play good as you suggest. I just know and understand why people would not follow the rules and play dirty, and I'm empath…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 12:54 AM
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This reminds me about the Roe vs Wade drama. Women online were asking why most single men online did not even care... I mean, if those men are not even getting sex and women treated them as trash, why the fuck do they think those men would be empathic to women's causes? It would be like asking someone starving to donate money for helping someone in Africa. In the same token, women don't care shit about men being left in the dust or being divorce raped (unless it affects the guy they are fucking)…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:03 AM
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That is good, but that does not hide the fact that many if not most women would take the side chick role if that implied privilege or comfort. Why live as a slave man, on his own and left over, if you could just join the harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:10 AM
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That is a good question. Maybe machines will make those jobs way easier for women anyway. But I suspect machines will have deeper effects on men, maybe they will actually get sex robots xD
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:38 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:52 PM
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That is true women are more independent, but precisely for that reason is that top rich and handsome men can just use them for sex and not provide or care for them when they get old... they are disposable for them, and they are OK with that. No matter how much women earn, they still prefer richer men, and they rather be a side chick of them than date and average men. If they choose to stay alone, they will suffer the same economic destiny of average men, being slaves to corporations and rent, hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:50 PM
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Yes, but they are not getting them and will not, and women rather be side chicks of a rich attractive guy than an average guy, so naturally all the society will rearrange around those powerful men. This is kind of how medieval society arranged too, so there is precedence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:46 PM
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Threats? What? These are impersonal collective trends no one can control. Asking individuals to go against their own self interests to stop these trends is not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:45 PM
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I can picture many women cucking their boyfriend with rich guys sure. I was reading about that too... the idea of women contributing to the relationship by selling themselves to rich boys, while returning to their normal boyfriends. I don't get how men would accept that, but it seems plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:43 PM
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Boomers will own everything, and probably sell their house to the bank before they die, so we better enjoy living with them for free as long as we can. I mean, maybe they can save money and actually buy some tiny property, whatever it means in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:42 PM
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To live... to keep working until death, to share nothing with a special one, to leave nothing to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:40 PM
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Women’s rights means treating women as people instead of objects. Most people want equality even if it doesn’t directly benefit them. People who are desinfraschesed will not care about any collective well being, though. This is not only about men, but women too. Have you seen a woman stop to provide a guy a jumper to start his care? I never have, and yet I have seen men help both men and women. Men will just act more as women act, selfishly. On replacing men on those bluecollar jobs... women? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:39 PM
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I do think young men need help especially because a partner may not be in their future. Sure, just as women don't need help from men either. They can raise their bastards on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:29 PM
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I wonder how "women rights" will look like when no average man enforce them as they resent women more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:28 PM
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What is the point of working for a boss if not for a family and yourself? Seems like voluntary slavery. Also women living with other women seems a disaster when one of them gets a boyfriend or has children. Same dynamic when friendships naturally die because love and family. But overall I agree, at the end, it will be over... but everyone will be too busy to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:25 PM
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It will be ugly. First for men, but down the line for everyone, and when they realize the cause it will be too late to fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:24 PM
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I suspect most of them will stay living with their parents, or only work the minimum to pay rent and pay for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:23 PM
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Yes, men who don't get sex and family will have no reason to work extra hours or extra hard. To be fair, women do the same... if they are cat ladies, they just live independently and die. It is just getting food and shelter for themselves! The difference is that men keep most roads and electricity. Everything and everyone around can rot for those men if they are not happy. You don't have to go back a few centuries. This is exactly how happened in Easter Europe in the 80s, and it STILL is recover…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:15 PM
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No, I get your point, but remember that each of those generations is significantly slower than the previous since the boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:10 PM
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Most men don't need to be incels to be losers in dating and romance, and so far that is what most single men are... losers, not at the level of incels, but losers. Of course this cause women to wait for childbirth longer and longer until they also become losers and depressed if they wanted to have a family and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:40 PM
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Low birth rates are a temporary condition. At some point the hatred of motherhood will no longer be pushed by the man haters. I doubt it is termporary, because the hole that dogma has created in the short fertility of women will have to be carried for years by generations. Imagine paying taxes to men and women who never contributed children to civilization, who no one loves and are just waiting to die decades, voting for stuff you hate, sucking your taxes dry... people will REALLY hate keeping a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:38 PM
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Nothing catastrophic needs to happen, though. Civilization slowly returning to tribalistic groups that treat women as property will probably not be seen as catastrophic. Men stopping contributing to society and letting everything rot, as it happened in Russia, will also will not be a catastrophe but such a slow process that you will think that things were always shitty anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:36 PM
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I don't believe that there's some massive apocalyptic event coming due to a percent of men not being able to get laid like a lot of these male self help figures like Scott Galloway would want you to believe. If you look at history, dating strategy has indeed destroyed whole civilizations at an apocalyptic level. Female selectivity is something which has been part of our species literally since our dawn, it's natural and society won't fall apart because women actually get to have a mate choice ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:34 PM
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once you lose that leverage youre instantly done? Thats typically not how most relationships work. That is how realtionships has been working for a few decades and now it is 10x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:31 PM
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Average men don't have ANY leverage. In a sense they do have leverage, but it is not immediately obvious. Women's rights will have a hard time getting implemented when 90% of disenfranchised men care shit about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:30 PM
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I hate to say it, but women have the power in this sexual aspect (they have the hole) so they make the rules. As a man, just don't be an idiot and put your own conditions if she wants something else (e.g. marriage, love, commitment, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:48 PM
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I feel society is very hypocritical on this, but they have the power so they can tell men to do what they want as a condition to their relationships. Sadly, men don't have much power here, since were are so horny that we agree to their shitty hypocritical contradictory rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:47 PM
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Yes, you win. Men are not envious as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:45 PM
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I guess the reason is that older women feel disenfranchised when men their age choose younger. If they cared about younger women being abused, they would stop using makeup and clothes made by asian slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:44 PM
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Men not controlling their behaviour is a problem they need to stop themselves because they CAN & just won’t. Agreed, and indeed prostitution does not intend to only deal with that problem alone. For example, Plenty of disabled men also can get sex thanks to prostitution. Plenty of single men who are not into marriage can also get satisfied and the women can make good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:30 PM
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That is only ONE reason of many to legalize sex work. Look, morally I'm against sex work totally... but legally, I don't really have any arguments against it. As relationships become more transactional, as women marry with infinite criteria, then it makes sense for quicker transactions such as prostitution to take over too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:29 PM
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Men following those models does not mean they are not attracted to average women at their level, though. Same as women who enjoy Christian Gray or similar books. They have fantasies of that kind of men, but they still date normal men (although, as I said, women are way pickier and often they are unaware of their 1 to 10 scale).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:25 PM
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For example, being nasty to men who approach you even to say Hi. I get getting mad at men who insist, though. Many men, including me, notice that women who are this nasty to men are often not that attractive, sometimes they are more masculine, fat, older, etc. Meanwhile attractive younger women are more picky but take the approach with humor and gracefully reject you. I wonder if the reason is that those average women are angry because they are less attractive? Or maybe men don't take them that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:22 PM
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Studies have shown more women are choosing to remain single and women are on average happier single. Most of those "studies" are articles of opinions of one or two experts. We know for sure that, for example, women live in tutorial mode socially speaking and yet find a way to lose... they use more antidepressants when older, they use more state assisted dead, they attempt suicide more (men just do it for good).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:09 PM
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I used ego here as another term for arrogance. It may be as well that women that are average or ugly are more arrogant as a way to protect themselves from abuse, just as men who also are on disadvantage in other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:07 PM
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I mean, we both can agree that sex work is not ideal. It is shameful for the woman, it suggest the man is needy, etc. But still works for them. Men are not so horny, those women make some money, etc. I don't see the damage long term except on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:50 PM
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Sure, sex workers can be abused and raped, but it is less likely for those men to go to a violent path if they have access to sex using money. Most advanced countries realized this. Same as drugs... you can make some drugs legal, like alcohol, and sure there can still be crimes for alcohol, but they are fewer. You don't need to help those men. Just let the sex workers, who do want to do it, do their work and you just... disappear. You are not giving men anything of value anyway, no wisdom, no se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:48 PM
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Adults do not bully other adults for being single. Maybe I did not express my point very well. But ask yourself who would you trust more: A single guy in the park or a single girl in the park. A guy with a family or a lonely guy in his 40s. A guy that is confident and has friends, or a guy with few to no friends. The bulling and gasligting against those men, who often have autistic traits, is not conscious. It just adds up with many people around treating them as less. Ironically feminists talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:45 PM
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Let's be honest, family only truly care about female members. If she stays at home, nothing wrong. If the guy stays at home to save money, he is a loser. If the father goes to help her move, she is independent. If the guy cannot move on his own, he is a loser. If the mother cares about her, she is so innocent. If the mother cares about the guy in his 20s or 30s, he is a mammas boy. On the flip side, this also means families expect more from women... to know to cook, help in the house, etc. but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:41 PM
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Most men don't care about beauty pageants. That is the interest of mostly gay men and other women. But yes, men can see a woman and compare how beauty she is. The difference is that men know their place and often date and even marry women on their level if they can. Why men know this and women don't? Well, because women don't have a point of reference. They are hit by men of all kind... ugly, beautiful, etc. Meanwhile men have to face reality, so they have a better sense of who is at their level…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:37 PM
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You are confabulating rape and violence against women with sex work. Not the same, and actually sex work can help reduce those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:23 PM
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Yeah, but shameful for the prostitute, not the customer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:01 PM
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Being social is indeed pretty nececcary. If you dont have any social life, ofcourse you have hard time dating. Yes, but not everyone is social, also women who are not social still have no problem with it. In the past non social men often compensated with other things such as riches or status of other kind. Today, options are narrowed to hypersocial people. No, not everyone is social and honesty if everyone was there would still be lesser social people who would be treated as underdogs. ​ This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:00 PM
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No it’s hate against disgusting and frightening misogynistic men If that was the case, why so many women date violent and criminal men that beat them or cheat on them or treat them as trash? Are not those men also misogynistic? Or suddenly misogyny only applies to autistic men that in your imagination hate women even when you don't even talk to them to know shit about what they actually think about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:47 PM
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I realized I have not seen a kid misbehave significantly in public in YEARS and I see many kids. Media often putting family as hell is very diabolic. Family will be ALL you have when job, friends, etc. go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:44 PM
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News outlets, TV shows, and journalists are trying to paint have kids as some sort of hell that strips you of your identity, and this movement is not organic. Usually they are associated with activists such as environmentalists that see humans as a problem. Of course they don't see those celebrities in private jets as a problem, but how dare working decent people have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:43 PM
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They should be focusing on studying or working not kids or getting married. Very weird the twist of our society to focus more on job and studying than a family, though. Jobs and studying have little sense if you don't have an enjoyable personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:41 PM
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There is no condition preventing them from doing anything in this case. There is. Dating today is only made for very social people, people with large groups of friends, young. If you happen to have moved and lost most of your friends, you are screwed. If you happen to put too much time studying or working and therefore losing some social life and social skills, you are screwed. So it is not as much personal condition but the conditions put by the dating culture today and how basically social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:36 PM
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Women want relationships and sex too. Women can just open an app for that. Plenty of them hate real life approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:30 PM
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Yeah, then get mad when used as flesh lights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:26 PM
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Are they? I would say women are the ones that rely on friends in emotional crisis. Men can be alone and relatively happy for a looong time, women don't, although women get social life for just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:25 PM
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Exactly. All this hate against incels is just hate against autistic men... most of which are harmless and don't hate women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:22 PM
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Rape and sexual assault do not count as "getting sex." Not rape or assault, but those guys indeed invade the legal gray area and women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:17 PM
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As stupid and insensitive as saying that depressed people can just "chill up" or neurodivergent people can just "socialize".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:16 PM
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Yes, I also have had that look of "how dare you hit on me", even when I'm just asking her to move her fat ass from my path.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:12 PM
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Also approaching is not natural for humans. For years couples were assigned since both were kids, or your only options were the 10 people in your tribe. Only psychopathic men can date with no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:11 PM
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I have a friend who tried to chat a girl up in a bar, stopped and returned to our group when it didn't work (this interaction was less than 5 minutes) and got punched in the head by some boucner on steroids cause returning to our group was not enough, she wanted him out (and bouncer dude was in a bad mood that day). Such disgusting women exist. Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:10 PM
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The potential reward: you end up meeting the love of your life or end up having sex 0.02% chance lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:07 PM
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What is wrong with complaining? If you don't like it don't read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:06 PM
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A few things: It is not safe to approach for most men. Most women would see the guy as creep at best and at worse call security and your zero status goes even worse, negative. The girl may not be available. She may have boyfriend, husband, etc. People successful in online dating are also successful in real life, so if you are not successful in online dating chances are you are also not successful in real life anyway. Porn may not be as rewarding but almost always guaranteed. Cannot wait for VR t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:04 PM
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the moral distaste of sex work is baked into the culture Only because toxic feminism. All cultures had institutions of prostitution, even medieval.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:01 PM
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Plenty of men are OK with sex alone. Some families suck and friends always marry or move on. It would be very selfish to also suggest those people have an obligation to care about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:00 PM
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are not going to support "normalizing" their daughters becoming sex workers. don't any of you think? Their body, their choice. I don't have any daughters, so I cannot care even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:59 PM
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Most men want relationships with abundant sex rather than sex with different women. Even most established men who have options often choose some exclusivity. So your assumptions are flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:58 PM
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... it's idiotic to believe women aren't dating you because you're a good person. A good person respects boundaries. If the guy does not respect boundaries, he gets more sex (also more problems, but he does not care). Therefore men who don't respect boundaries, who are bad, get more sex and relationships while respectful good men are left on the dust. It is not so hard to understand. It is not even about being a nice guy... you can be a very disagreeable guy and still respect boundaries and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:41 PM
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There is a simple explanation: Sexual attraction. The bad guys often are also more physical and that is why they get away with so much. Women are just animals, as men are. They just hate to admit it in their virtue signaling ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:35 PM
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Unless she is forced into that, it seems it is just a couple's decision. Also being at house does not mean isolation, you can invite friends, make your own home business, etc. But hey, I guess the only empowering job is sucking your boss' dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:33 PM
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My female friends all value their boyfriends/fiancés for being good people That is the key, you feel entitled to men being good as good people, not as men, in fact you don't recognize masculinity as a thing. Meanwhile women are praised for doing petty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:31 PM
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Millenial "stay at home" moms are indeed worthless. They hire someone to take care of the kids, they don't cook, they don't work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:30 PM
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LOL, bad men provide shit and treat you as shit and they still fuck them. No, lady, it is just sexual attraction. Women are just as animals they just hate to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:28 PM
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But if being a good person was contingent on you being rewarded for it, then you weren't really a good person. If being a good person is punished with less attraction and less attention, what does it mean to be a good person? To just be cucked by evil and disgusting people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:27 PM
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Show me a woman with no options, then you might actually have an argument here The forever alone women forum is full of women who claim to have no option, but if you ask carefully they are talking about the good looking guys that their friends date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:23 PM
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Most physical obstacles women have, such as being fat or ugly, can be compensated with makeup and losing weight and dressing well. For men? Spending half a million dollars on a surgery to get 6 inches taller is not very realistic. Getting rich always means other men will be poor, so it is a win-lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:22 PM
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Plenty of good girls fall in love with bad jokes. In fact it seems they are made for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:19 PM
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Plenty of good girls fall in love with bad jokes. In fact it seems they are made for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:19 PM
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You are using male-invented technology to deny reality. Women are just the inspiration, men are the rational force behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:52 AM
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Humans are rationalizing animals. Men are more rational but to justify irrational things. Women skip reason all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:04 AM
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You have to consider that a lot of relationships start OK but become toxic, when you have invested too much to leave without other risks such as never getting a relationship again, or she taking half your stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:02 AM
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Why complain that no one wants you if you don’t even like your options in the first place? Don't you think it is a little unfair to keep your health, make a lot of money, and be fit... for just finding a fat broke single mom woman? Sorry, there are not enough good women (nor men) for everyone. Staying single and using porn is a very wise and logical strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:01 AM
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Then they wonder why they die at 60 What is the point of living that long if you don't live life? Especially for men playing video games, doing drugs, not dating, porn, etc. What is the point of keeping health if when they get old no one will be for them? Better live life NOW. It is a very wise strategy to just live your life so it ends quickly and not just live a boring diet life until your 90s. Not everyone knows a purpose. I do believe I have a purpose, but if I didn't, I would be doing the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:59 AM
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I know this for a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:18 PM
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Sure, if you want to be horny and lonely and depressed, that is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:16 PM
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Men admit their own hormones own them, women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:14 PM
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Unfortunately, men are extremely horny, so we have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:13 PM
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Better women are already taken, or unaccessible. We only have single moms, fat women, old women, divorced women... not worth it more than just using Pornhub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:10 PM
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so finally seeing some good engineers (women/minorities) come through the door. Weird how you consider a good engineer by gender and minority of some kind, as if it was something relevant to the production.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:00 PM
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diversity hiring improving overall quality LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:59 AM
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This massively further increases women’s productivity I would argue most of what you mentioned, social life and family life, actually are detrimental to productivity and time at work. Don't get me wrong, family and friends are important, but women are not moreproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:58 AM
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"Patriarchy" is a boogie word for a the normal configuration of society, that benefits just a few men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:57 AM
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So men value more what women can give them (sex) rather than women themselves? Just as women value more what men can give (money). Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:25 AM
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All the comfort, environmentalist policy to protect environment, new ideas, tech, new drugs, etc. come from the West. Don't project your own uselessness to the West, which is by far the most advanced and greatest civilization that existed so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:53 AM
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Because all the comfort, environmentalist policy to protect environment, new ideas, tech, etc. come from the West. If you don't have that to contribute, it is easy to project your uselessness in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:52 AM
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It is most likely they will just bring 3rd world there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:51 AM
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Western countries are a plague on humanity. Tell that to all the 3rd world countries that depend on them for protection, money and as a goal for them to move as cheap workers. If Western countries are bad, other countries are indeed shitholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:50 AM
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I find it funny how anti-natalist celebrate this, considering that it only guarantees that developed countries are developing tech and knowledge for breeding cultures, and western countries will slowly die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:10 AM
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