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You’re welcome to your opinion. But far too many of the women in your generation watched the women in my generation suffer. They aren’t signing up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:51 AM
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No it’s not. I was mom. I did everything. My husband showed up for holidays and birthdays and claimed credit for the shit I did. Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:38 AM
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They don’t need to reflect. “If I could be a dad, I would have kids” says it all. It’s easy to want kids when you don’t have to do the real work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:33 AM
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Women ignore 99.99% of people. Everyone does. We go about our lives, and unless you are a friend, family member or coworker, we have no reason to talk to you. This isn’t cruelty. It’s normal, no one has the social energy to talk to everyone. Do you go talk every single person you see in the run of a day? Or do you ignore all but those that are important?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:56 AM
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Or, or, men could become something women want instead of threatening to burn the world down if they don’t get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:03 PM
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The anus is not meant to be used that way. It’s high risk and you clearly have never done or done any real research on it if you are trying to claim otherwise. Anal rape frequently ends with severe damage and a colostomy bag. What you see in porn is not reality. Those women have been given injections to relax the muscles and kill the pain. Performing anal sex on a woman who doesn’t want it is a power trip and a way of hurting someone you claim to care about. Women do not have to submit to every …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:36 AM
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Yeah, you’re wrong. It hurts. It’s risky. There’s infections and tearing and all kinds of things that can happen. But if you want to take it, feel free. If you don’t, you don’t ask anyone else to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:13 AM
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So your volunteering?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:59 AM
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This question almost always refers to anal. And that is painful. As far as I’m concerned any man asking for that should volunteer to be pegged first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:39 AM
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It’s a convo that goes him: “hey I’d like to try this” her: “I don’t want to I tried that once and didn’t like it”. Him: “wah!!!!! You did it with him, why not MEEEEE 😭😭😭😭”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:48 AM
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Staying single or switching teams are becoming prevalent options. Young women aren’t really dating older men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:08 PM
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Did you just compare a religious tale written by a man to actual history? Dude, you lost everyone right there. 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:16 PM
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Knowing what you can say to whom is a social skill. I’m not telling my boss to go fuck himself, but I will tell my brother that. If I understand this correctly, you’re just mad cause you can’t get away with whatever you want cause you have no social leverage. All the whining in the world won’t change that. Women have been told from a young age that pretty girls get treated better. Sorry no one told you that, but now ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:28 PM
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Women aren’t running around preaching at average men for no reason. Same as average women, they are largely ignored. The ones who are getting preached at are the ones criticizing women. If you shut your mouth, everyone will be happy to ignore you. If you want to go around bitching at everyone, don’t be shocked when people fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:11 PM
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Develop a social life. Learn to be nice to people because it’s the right thing to do, not because you want something back. ETA therapy can help you with this. Skills have to be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:43 AM
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This. Huge overlap. They are looking for a relationship with a hot woman. But they have no qualms about stringing along an unattractive one for sex while they keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:40 PM
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They are gonna leave me alone now??!! For real??! That would be amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:13 PM
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Absolutely a million times happier. I haven’t found a dirty sock hiding anywhere since I stopped dating 5 years ago. My house stays clean, I do what I want when I want and my finances are very stable and able to provide me a comfortable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:37 PM
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If you can’t explain your argument so other people can understand it, your argument is invalid, nice try tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:32 PM
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“I want a man who makes at least as much as me cause I don’t want to financially support someone” means a woman is a gold digger in your eyes. So what do you call a man who doesn’t want to support somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:33 PM
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Yeah ok bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:10 PM
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That’s what happens you let your sex drive do your thinking for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:10 PM
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I want to be a millionaire, lots of people have access to it. Does that mean I’m entitled to the same? Or am I gonna have to work for it and earn it on my own merits?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:08 PM
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That’s absurd. Women making high salaries do that because they want to. For them. They aren’t doing it for men. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:06 PM
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Men pretend they have no standards. But they also pretend that the average woman is aged 18-25 and weighs 115 pounds. They completely ignore the fact that the average woman is their mom/auntie/cousin, has had kids and carries a few extra pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:59 AM
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As long as everyone’s honest it’s fine. If a married couple wants an open relationship, that’s their business. But they also have to be honest with those they are chasing. It’s not fair to be seeking a relationship and end up dating someone who’s married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:21 AM
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As a middle aged woman. Trying to help other women in their 40s rebuild their lives post divorce after being a SAHM is brutal. Couldn’t be more thankful I always worked. Starting a career now would suck, I’ve got friends making half what I do, and my income is pretty average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:16 AM
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That is something men as a whole need work on. Men used to be able to have a beer (or 10) and talk to their friends about their problems. It’s sad that they have lost this ability
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:02 PM
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Women don’t want to be on the apps. The harassment is endless. I’ve never made it more than 3 days before closing my account. Last time I had one open was 5 years ago. All the marketing in the world won’t change the experience. The apps are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:57 PM
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You’re welcome to your perspective. But the reason for DEI is because women get pushed out. This is not a new problem. I’ve been watching it play out for years. It’s not the work women are refusing, it’s the bullshit that comes with it. When men accept women in the workplace and stop pushing them out, the DEI will run its course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:41 AM
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We do need a more equal society. Why don’t women work in hard labour jobs?? Could it be the endless sexism and harassment they endure for stepping foot in a male space? When women can have equal opportunities to men without that, we can talk about the rest. I’ve personally known more than a few women who were ultimately run out of their workplaces. The most recent case I watched go down was a female mechanic less than a year ago. The men in those industries have to start letting women in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:27 AM
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If you can propose a real solution to address it, sure. I’d like to see younger generations find ways to pair up and be happy. But otherwise, this an entirely pointless debate. It just turns into whining as many of these comments show. Life isn’t fair. When women have problems, we make it really clear how we want them solved. Allow us to vote. Pay us fairly. Don’t rape and assault us. Men are just demanding that this problem fixed without providing a viable solution for how it gets solved. We ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:08 AM
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Here’s my question. How would men’s sexlessness be addressed? I have not yet seen a viable solution for this proposed on this sub. What measures do you want taken to resolve this issue? Your post lists all the solutions that aren’t viable. But it doesn’t give a suggestion for how this should be addressed. Cause the answer really depends on what you think the solution should be. It’s not important enough for other people to lose their rights and autonomy so you can have sex. But if you can find a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:00 AM
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I had a decent job and a rental by 21. So did my daughter. I bought at 31 and she bought at 28. Yes I’m older, and had a different economy. But she’s 29 and is dealing with same economy you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:22 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:17 PM
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Are you fucking kidding me? So you innocently minded your own business, never said anything bad about women and got called a misogynist? Sure that’s 100% believable 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:15 PM
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Did you forget that women over 25 exist? They aren’t all living at home 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:12 PM
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Do you hear yourself? A job and an apartment is a bare minimum, no one wants to date someone unemployed and living with their parents or homeless. Somehow you’re jumping to villas and yachts from that? Those are called luxuries. A job and a home are basic necessities. Literally the bare fucking minimum for survival. Ffs 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:10 PM
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And yet women are managing it…. It’s literally the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:14 PM
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They aren’t being called misogynist for being single, they are being called misogynists when they say misogynistic shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:00 PM
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Yeah, no one is criticizing that. Enjoy your single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:41 PM
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So you also just don’t like your available options? Or are you also going to complain that you don’t have ANY options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:16 PM
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And you also have the option to ask out people you’re not attracted to. But you dont like your options. It’s the same issue on both sides. Attractive people have the most options, unattractive people have the least. It’s not gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:07 PM
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Options for? Last I checked fat girls have options for casual sex but not relationships. They don’t want that. What aren’t you getting about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:59 PM
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Then they should be trying to create options. Ask out the fat girl. That’s an option. Choosing not to ask out the fat girl is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:52 PM
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Increasing the birth rate is the governments problem. It’s only needed because capitalist economies require constant growth. Women aren’t going to do this because you think it’s best. Women are going to do exactly what they are doing and the government can figure out a new economic model that doesn’t require us to destroy our planet with incessant growth. This is actually necessary and soon or the climate will destroy us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:08 PM
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How bout if they be a good mom instead? Cause a “good dad” seems to do the bare minimum and get praised for it, while mom works her ass off remembering and managing all the little details. That’s the actual point here. Women don’t want to do all the work anymore. Dads don’t even understand what the work actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:06 AM
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I’ve heard some women say “I would want kids if I could be a dad”. There’s a world of difference in the two roles. My daughter is childfree and I 100% support that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:13 AM
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Well you said you want to be desirable to men in your previous comment. And really, this pursuit of yours won’t make you desirable to women. This behaviour is considered gross to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:49 PM
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Yes and no. Ruining your life for something you want is stupid. No one gets everything they want in life. Sometimes knowing when to just accept it and be happy with something else is a skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:46 PM
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So you want to sleep with women to make yourself desirable to men? I just can’t even with whatever’s going through your head. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:45 PM
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There’s more to life than sex. Focus on a different goal. Being miserable and doing nothing is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:42 PM
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So what it sounds like you’re not understanding is this, women are not safe around men in general. Some may be safe, but hey, 62 million. We don’t know who is or isn’t safe. Behaviours stem from that. If you want to be emotional beings, make friends, or go to therapy. But don’t expect women to sympathize when we actually have to fear for our physical safety when we interact with men. If you want to fix the problem, fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:49 PM
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It gets brought up because it’s a cause and effect thing. If women were safe, they would be more willing to date. Given the lack of safety, women have to be much more careful and many opt out after a few bad experience. The lack of safety is the direct cause of all the problems men are complaining about. You can’t solve the male side of the problem without first solving the female side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:33 PM
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I assume you mean yes to both. Cause ugly people have friends. Obnoxious people less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:40 PM
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That’s a fucking insane take. Therapy bud. It will do you a world of good
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:10 PM
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No one is gonna love someone who hates everyone. You have some serious internal work to do. Your height isn’t the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:09 PM
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I wonder how far I can push that at the office, I’m already 30% tattoos and they struggle to accept that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:35 AM
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Like I said. Prostitution with extra steps. If that’s what you want, it would be cheaper to just hire one in your home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:34 AM
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230 pounds. No make up. Natural color (some gray strands) hair in a clip. Professional attire for work (slacks and blouses, with camis to ensure no cleavage). Sweats and tshirts/hoodies the rest of the time. Still getting hit on. I don’t know what it actually takes to repel them, but let me know if you figure it out, I’m trying too and it’s not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:30 AM
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Poor Asian women care about survival. They don’t date white men cause they want to, they date them cause they see it as a path out of poverty. And that’s why men who date those women are considered losers. They are literally preying on women who have no other real choice. It’s prostitution with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:27 AM
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Well, as an actual older woman, no. By 30, women have generally had enough of men’s shit. Our patience gets thinner as a time goes on. No older woman who is happy with her home, job, friends, family, etc is thinking “my house looks great! You know what I need? Someone to treat me like shit and leave dirty socks all over my house and dishes in the sink”. For those who did marry in their twenties, that’s about the time divorces start happening. Older women love being single even more than younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:17 AM
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I’m human who has studied and understands economics, markets and supply/demand. Gender is irrelevant here. The dating market is a market like any other. Buyers want the best product for the cheapest price. (Hottest woman, least amount of effort). Sellers want the highest profit possible. Best man (attractive, financially stable, mentally stable, kind, supportive, whatever that individual woman values most ) Least amount of investment to get it. If you offer a seller $10,000 for their car, and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:14 PM
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I’m not sure where you got homophobia from my comment. But women are fine with men making that choice. Those who want to date will still date because it will never be 100% of men that opt out. Those who don’t will continue on with their lives and be thankful to be left alone. You have no leverage here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:42 PM
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The person who has the higher need of anything is the person who has to take initiative. This applies in all facets of life, real estate, sales, employment, dating. Other markets shift due to changing conditions. The dating market is more static. The balance is in favor of women due to their willingness to stay single and men’s higher sex drive. The only time this changes is after a major war when the actual gender balance changes. So ultimately, those who survive trumps wars will have better ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:35 PM
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What do you expect this to achieve? Manosphere spaces have been blaming women for years. The end result was women getting wind of it, getting angry and becoming even pickier. Women are the selectors and have options (including the option to stay single and still have kids if they want them). Blaming women for men being single isn’t likely to change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:14 PM
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They are also fine with staying single if they don’t get what they want. Men are not. If men aren’t willing to settle, then they can stay single. But women aren’t going to lower their standards because “it’s not fair”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:45 PM
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They don’t. And they seem to forget that historically, short, fat, poor dudes took what they could get and were thankful for it. They had fat, ugly wives if that’s what was available for them. The other option was to go be a sailor and frequent syphilitic whores at brothels. Now we have a generation of unattractive basement dwellers demanding model tier women for free. I can’t imagine why that isn’t working 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:41 PM
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That’s exactly what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:09 PM
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So young men listened to the advice of other men about what women do and don’t like and it burned them. Shocking 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:02 PM
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If they are happily single, they give zero fucks what men do as long as it doesn’t impact them. You are complaining about two different women and saying they are the same. The single woman who’s happy, doesn’t care, she’s not on the market. The woman who wants to be romanced is a woman who wants to date. She can have her pick of men and she’s going to choose the one she likes best. If that’s the dude who brings her flowers, great for him. Sucks for the dudes who think they can do the bare minimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:32 PM
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The women who want peace, aren’t in the market at all. That’s why the ratios are so skewed. The few women that are in the market are in high demand and have choices. They may choose a man or they may ultimately decide they didn’t find one worth keeping and decide to drop out of the market completely. I think the ratios on the apps are a pretty clear indication of this. There are vastly more men looking to date than women. If you want to date, you need to be a good option. Better than peace, AND …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:37 PM
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The dating market is in women’s favour. Period. So many women have chosen not to date, cause cats and wine are awesome, that its a tight market for men. Your dating pool is literally smaller than ever before. You are in competition with all the other men who also want to date, in an increasingly smaller dating pool. If you don’t want to do the traditional stuff to get her attention and stand out from the crowd, what are you going to do? You can’t just be average, ambitious less Joe and expect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:19 PM
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I wonder if it’s not the spaces themselves women dislike, but the behaviour of the men that frequent those spaces?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 01:27 PM
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That was option number 2. Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? Most dudes don’t make enough to support a wife. They get options number 1 and 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:14 AM
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No one values working for a boss. What they do value is freedom, stability and independence. All those things come with working for and having control over your own money. Women are increasingly realizing this SAHW thing is a bad deal. We have all seen what happens when a trad marriage goes sideways. Men always claim they are willing to “share” right up till the marriage breaks up. Then he’s willing to drop $500k on lawyers just to screw his ex over. Being financially dependant on another human …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:28 PM
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So she’s supposed to take the risk of reducing her lifetime earning potential to be your partner with no guarantee. Gotcha. Can’t imagine why women are not singing up for this deal… s/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:20 PM
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So of course if your partner gives up their earning potential you are prepared to split the assets and pay alimony if/when it doesn’t work out. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:50 PM
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You have just clearly stated the issue. Women are working and don’t want to do all the chores. Boys can learn to step up and share the workload, make enough money to support a willing housewife or stay single. Any expectation that women will continue to do it all while working is ridiculous. Put down the gaming remotes and go cook dinner. It might save your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:21 PM
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Women who opt out completely are mostly safe from these abuses. So for those women, it is a victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:41 PM
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“Choose better” isn’t the flex you think it is. The better choice might be staying single
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:55 PM
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The comments here did not surprise me. No one has to lower their standards. If you don’t want to date a single mom, don’t. She will find someone or else fulfill her life in other ways. If you can’t find someone that meets your standards, figure out how to be happy alone. If you can’t do that, it’s a you problem. Figure it out or fuck off. Don’t expect everyone else to accommodate your wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:05 AM
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She wants a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:59 AM
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Older women. Yes. Younger women. No. Unless the dude is extremely hot. If a young woman claims to just want sex, she’s got low self esteem and is hoping the sex will make you want to keep her around. An older woman has experienced relationships and knows she doesn’t want a man in her house. Source, former low self esteem young woman. Current doesn’t give a fuck what you think, get out of my house, older woman. And even now, he better be super hot or I’ll go find my vibrator instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:46 AM
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I have pmdd. Prior to being medicated, I was batshit crazy for a week every month, never mind the cysts and excruciating pain. Me not being at work would have been best for everyone. Workplaces need to start accommodating these conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:44 AM
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I’m not at all confused when I get lesser treatment because I’m less attractive. It was drilled into my head from childhood pretty women get treated better. It confuses me that men are shocked and hurt when they get the same treatment. Then they become angry and lash out cause they didn’t see it coming and expect it to be different. Your acting like being treated as less then if your unattractive is a strictly a male problem. No it’s a human problem. Being angry at women for treating ugly men th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:04 PM
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I’m not accused of having moral failings cause I didn’t let my situation turn me into an asshole. I accepted my fate and got on with my life. You let yourself become an asshole and then you’re hurt when you get called out on it? You have the power to make different choices and not be so angry, but you don’t and that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:41 PM
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It’s not any different for women. If I tell my hot friend her mechanic is an asshole, she says, oh that sucks. He’s nice to me. She doesn’t understand or really care, cause it’s not her problem. If you tell me, I struggle to date, I’m gonna say, oh that sucks. But I don’t really care. It’s not my problem. Do you want me to tell you you’re ugly? You already know. And if you’re in this sub hating on women, yeah people are gonna say it’s your attitude. No one wants to date someone who hates them. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:07 PM
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This always confuses me. As an unattractive woman, I always knew I had to work harder to get what I want, and not just in dating. If a male manager has 2 equally qualified candidates, he’s gonna choose the hot one. I don’t get the same treatment at the mechanics that my hot friend does. I often can’t get the help I need at a store because young men would rather help the hot chick. Is it frustrating? Sure. Do I go online and lose my shit over it? No. I find other ways to be happy and ignore it. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:18 PM
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You can want whatever, you still aren’t entitled it. “I highly doubt your right” is not the same as actually doing some research and understanding what the history of relationships really was. But of course that would require effort and might actually show you a reality you don’t want to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:45 PM
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It’s still not structural discrimination. Individual women discriminating against men isn’t structural, even it’s in large numbers. Government saying men cannot get married unless they make a minimum of $XYZ Would be structural discrimination. What’s happening now is a bunch of whiny man babies trying to make themselves into victims rather than admitting they have to change to achieve their goals. Women don’t want whiny man babies. If you’re too scared to approach as your comments have indicated…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:28 PM
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Women and men have been using each other for thousands of years. Marriage for love has always been extremely rare. Arranged marriages were the standard for generations. People hadn’t even met before they were paired up. They did not love each other lol. Love is a fairly recent cultural concept. You have a ton of history to study. Your complete lack of understanding of how relationships used to work and why they don’t work that anymore is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:19 PM
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I have never seen someone be so wrong and refuse to listen to anything. There have always been more men than women because men tend to die younger. There have always been leftover men. And you’re completely missing what structural discrimination is. That is a specific term referring to actual laws in government institutions that discriminate against certain people. An example would be natives being sterilized against their will for decades because the government says so. Or women not being allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:00 PM
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Because relationships are about making each others lives better, not worse. If you don’t add value to her life in some way, she has no reason to be in a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:40 PM
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Thank you!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:00 PM
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What discrimination? Are you a minority? Disabled? Or just a selfish asshole that no one wants to be around? Cause that last one isn’t discrimination, it’s natural consequences. Gaslighting in what way? Women see what their friends and families relationships are like, they probably have a had a couple relationships themselves and after weighing pros and cons they make their own decisions. If the choice they make is to stay single, then again, that’s natural consequences. Maybe you need to do som…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:52 PM
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Ok well if women are lying about not wanting relationships why are you even here? Your whole post is about how women staying single disadvantages you, now you don’t care? Someone’s lying here, not me tho 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:38 PM
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This is incorrect. As a married woman, working, with kids, I had no time for friends or hobbies cause my husband was lazy and I had to do everything, my evenings and weekends were always spent taking care of kids, cooking and cleaning. Now, as a single working woman with grown children, I have lots of time for hobbies I was forced to abandon years ago. Time for solid friendships, time to read, time (and money) to travel. I’m happier this way, and no I don’t have dating options. I’m older, overwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:24 PM
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Women aren’t going to lower their standards cause they don’t have to. Men aren’t really competing with each other anymore, they are competing with the peace a woman experiences when she’s living single. It’s not about looks, it’s about how much value a man adds to her life versus how much work he’s going to add to her life. If he’s more work than value, he’s staying single. What changes could men make to make themselves more valuable and less work?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:10 PM
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Then stay single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:19 PM
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Clearly that’s the excuse you’re using. But willing hurting someone you claim to care about isn’t biology, it’s you being a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:19 PM
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You can’t say you value and respect someone while also saying you would do something to hurt them just cause you want to. Thats not respect. It’s pure selfishness. You don’t even care if you hurt her, so no you don’t value and respect her. You just tell yourself you do. Likely you have sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies and only value what she does for you while not actually caring about her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:10 PM
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OR you could value your partner enough to understand that would hurt her and you wouldn’t want to do that. If you don’t value your partner that much, then you don’t deserve her and the resulting breakup is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:43 PM
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This is probably the most sensible post I’ve ever seen here. Since most women are also average, they aren’t getting the guys with LMS, those guys are dating 9-10s. So they are evaluating what left by personality and picking the best of the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:32 AM
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Why not just stay single? That’s what an increasing percentage of women are choosing. Why take the risk for someone you aren’t even attracted to? It’s not like abusers wear signs. They like to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:30 AM
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And yet there are so many forms of violence that don’t kill you. Just cause you didn’t die doesn’t mean you aren’t in danger. Your statement is ridiculous. Its only purpose is to minimize the lived experiences of millions of women who have been subjected to abuse in their homes. I suspect you are incapable of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:28 AM
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You do realize that women are in the most danger from intimate partners right? Smart adult women aren’t counting on a man they are dating for protection… from the man they are dating. Young women may be foolish like that, but they will learn, usually the hard way, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:46 AM
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That’s what grabbers and step stools are for. I do just fine at 5’3” without a man to reach the top shelves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:42 AM
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You asked why women don’t date fat men. I told you why. I even prefaced it by saying you don’t actually want to know the answer. But now you know. So don’t whine about being a virgin cause you’re fat unless your willing to do something about it. Thats a choice you are making. If food is more important than sex to you, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:19 PM
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Ya know, denial might be a big part of your issue. You know you’re fat, you know that it affects your dick size and you have now learned that women also know that and are judging you on it, well before you ever get to the point of showing your dick. The only actual solution is to lose weight, but you would rather try to convince me your dick hasn’t disappeared yet so it’s ok. It’s your life buddy, so good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:15 PM
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So you have been lucky thus far. But since the fat in the pubic area does affect dick size negatively, that will be the perception from women. And you might be surprised at how well endowed you actually are if you lose the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:48 PM
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Unfortunately, it is true. I watched my ex gain 250 pounds. Guess what disappeared? https://lifemd.com/learn/does-your-penis-grow-when-you-lose-weight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:42 PM
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There’s no “fat dude” fetish like there is for BBW. No dude wants to hear this. But you lose 1 inch off your dick for every 30 pounds extra you’re carrying. So depending on your starting size and how much weight you’re carrying, there will always be the question of if you will be able to satisfy a woman. Cause size does matter to some extent, if you have gained so much weight there’s only an inch or less left, it will definitely hinder your ability to satisfy in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:33 PM
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So the expectation is that women are supposed to know who’s gonna pay child support and who isn’t despite the enormous amounts of deception men employ in their efforts to get laid? I mean, sure, at my age, I could figure it out. You know how I learned? Experience. Women in their child bearing years presumably don’t have the same experience I do since they are 20 years younger than me. Do you think there’s some guide that tells them which men are bad and which are good? Or do they maybe learn tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:17 PM
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Um, how to be a wife was the only thing we were taught? Then our society completely changed economically and everyone had to work. We tried to do it all, and burned out spectacularly. Our daughters watched that happen. The smart ones paid attention and don’t want to make the same mistakes. Everything else you said is pure fiction. I’m absolutely astounded you would say men didn’t hold women back. Did you get no history education at all in school? You aren’t worth my time, or any women’s time cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:48 PM
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What do you think women have been doing? We had to figure out how to run house, raise kids and work full time jobs. We were not given any guidance at all on how to do that, our parents thought we were going to grow up to be housewives like our moms and didn’t tell us shit. Our brothers had college funds that were saved for them. We got, “ well we didn’t expect you to want to go to school, can’t you just take a cheap nursing degree? You don’t need to be a doctor, you’re going to have babies, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:16 PM
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Women don’t get extra subsidies for education. Benefits and subsidies are based on family size and income. As for your DEI claims, that hasn’t been a factor in hiring practices for women in a very long time, they apply to POC. If men had simply accepted women and POC in the work environment instead of trying to push them out, none of that would have ever happened. That is a direct result of your predecessors behaviour. If white men try again to push everyone else out, that will get doubled down …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:28 PM
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That’s some lovely click bait. But if you read and understand what it actually says, the lower tax rate is due to LOWER INCOMES (aka, that pesky wage gap we are always fighting to change) and family size. So it’s back to, if men took the lower paid caregiving jobs that women primarily do currently instead of chasing big tech cause it’s fun and easy, and/or they took the kids, they would get the same tax breaks. This gap is the result of choices made, not government bias. Women are fighting for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:39 PM
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What exactly do you think the government does for women like me that it doesn’t do for men? Sure there’s social programs in Canada, it’s all based on income, and just as many men collect as women. So that argument doesn’t work here. Do I think it should be abolished? No. Tents aren’t safe in -35 degrees Celsius. Not for anyone. We need to keep people housed so they don’t die. It’s that simple. Do women get higher payments? Again no. Benefit levels are always determined based on family size and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:17 PM
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Quite frankly, I did. I paid for my education. I suffered the grueling hours it took to ace my courses while raising children. I fought for a good a job. I faced being underpaid and disrespected cause I had tits. I fought to be paid equally and treated like an equal member of the team. I pay just as much taxes as anyone else, male or female, who makes my income. And my daughter? She did the same but without kids cause she doesn’t want to procreate. She’s now an indispensable member of her all ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:48 PM
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That’s ridiculous. Women have higher education and earn their own money just like men. I don’t get government benefits beyond what any man making my income gets. I make more than my ex, my daughter makes more money than her ex, and we take care of our own shit without government assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:35 PM
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Not just support her while married, but also be willing to pay alimony if the relationship doesn’t work out. Women don’t want to be left holding the bag with no work experience or a stalled career.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:31 PM
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Equality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:01 PM
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That’s a holdover from the old days when “single parent” meant “divorced”. It doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the home. You are really reaching to try and convince people that single moms are evil and abnormal, rather than a completely normal family structure. Very few married couples make it the whole way, most kids will live in single parent homes at some point. The ones who start there might be the lucky ones cause they don’t have to go thru the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:21 PM
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As I stated in another comment. If we wait for ideal situations, babies won’t be born. Would a two parent household be better? Depends on the parents. What if dad works 80 hours a week and is never home? Or he’s abusive? Or he abandons his family during his midlife crisis and drags mom thru the divorce from hell? Which is more damaging, being abused or neglected? or having a single parent? You are trying to apply black and white thinking to situations are shades of grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:08 PM
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Lots of things matter. But being able to provide a safe stable home is first and foremost. Everything else is pretty debatable. If babies were only born to perfect parents in perfect scenarios, there wouldn’t be any babies. There’s no such thing as perfect parents, a perfect situation, or perfect lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:38 PM
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The line is drawn when the safety of the child is at risk. Obviously. A child being homeless is not equivalent to a child having a single mom. One is in active danger. One is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:29 PM
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The subtext in what he’s saying reads to me like he wants someone completely submissive. Loud = has an opinion and wants it heard. Naggy = has expectations of his behaviour. Won’t just pick up his dirty sicks for him. Obnoxious = doesn’t just do what she’s told. So he wants to go back to women and children should be seen and not heard cause that’s more convenient than actually improving his behaviour and treating women like full fledged adult human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:29 PM
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Your whole post was about independent women being horrible. It’s pretty clear you’re the kinda guy who wants the bangmaid, not an actual human partner. I’m glad your other comment is that you don’t date, cause getting stuck with you would be an awful fate for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:46 PM
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Don’t be ridiculous. Older people usually outgrow that obsession. You will get there someday too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:20 PM
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Relationship skills are learned. People learn how to communicate effectively, they learn how to compromise and they learn how to treat a partner so the relationship can succeed. People in their 20s are learning these lessons and it’s expected that problems will arise and breakups will happen. Humans learn by trial and error. No one older wants to get into a relationship with someone who is over 35, has none of these skills and is probably very stuck in their ways after decades of being single. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:39 PM
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Your post isn’t about staying single, it’s about trying to date. Women don’t care if men actually choose to stay single, it’s a valid choice and many women choose the same. Your post is actually about men who have been single for a long time and are still trying to date. And ya know, there’s a reason it’s a red flag. Hint: it’s not about looks, it’s about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:47 PM
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Your assumption seems to be that people give a shit you are trying to improve. That assumes people give a shit about you. The average person doesn’t actually care about anyone outside their social circle. The real world demands results, not “effort”. If you are successful in your attempts, you will naturally attract someone, if not, you stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:28 PM
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Dating is about getting into relationships. Why would someone waste their time on someone whose company they don’t enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:18 PM
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That was my point. You get special treatment based on your disability, in the workplace. And that is mandated by western governments so you have a chance at survival. What makes you think that’s going to extend to the dating world? You aren’t owed everything you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:19 PM
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Society can make laws that force institutions like schools and workplaces to be inclusive of minorities, including people of different races, genders, and abilities. But that really is “special treatment”. “Normal” people don’t get those exceptions. If I can’t get along with my coworkers, I can be fired. If I can’t do the work in an educational program, I would be failed. And if I can’t attract a partner, I remain single. Unfortunately, for some reason, autistic men have translated that special …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:43 PM
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let’s check in with those women when they are 40, they will be singing a new tune.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:59 PM
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I don’t feel bad about it either. There’s a lack of morals in these relationships, on both sides. The types of women who do this shit make all of us look bad. Hardworking women with decent morals are judged right along with the women who do this. This isn’t a “men bad/women good” situation. This is a “shitty people suck” situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:29 PM
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I sure would. Any man who decides his best bet is to buy a woman 20 years younger than him is a fool and any woman willing to be bought is a prostitute. I judge the foreign ones more cause at least if he’s paying for a western woman, he’s got real money, the foreign ones are discounted for the “average” man. And frankly, I don’t even judge the woman that harshly, cause it’s a fucking tough world, we can’t all be educated, if they have the looks, they might as well use it. You go sister, get his …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:59 PM
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No. But he’s not walking around acting like his $300 car is the shit and he’s the man. He just drives it and is thankful if it keeps running. He also doesn’t complain when his car fails cause he knew it wouldn’t last.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:34 PM
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Exactly this. It’s pathetic to watch them walk around all proud with their woman and everyone is laughing at them inside. No one respects these dudes. It’s such a visible sign that they are an absolute loser and they don’t seem to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:32 PM
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I just said he can do whatever he wants. But don’t pretend it’s something it isn’t. It’s prostitution with extra steps. And in the end, she will take him for every penny she can get. So hes setting himself for failure in the end. She will get her immigration papers for his home country, leave him, and take everything. And he better not whine about it after and play the AWALT card, cause he signed up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:10 PM
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If men want to be passport bros, whatever, but don’t pretend it’s a love match, and don’t complain when she takes your money in the end. I absolutely laugh internally when I see some old dude with a 25 year old Asian girl. I have no respect whatsoever for that man. I think he’s a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 02:59 PM
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It’s just not a priority for a lot of women, we tend to be focused on friends, family, school and career with a side of “if I meet someone nice that’s cool”. Women are looking for relationships, not just sex. So they are waiting to meet the right person, not just any person. Thats why dating apps and cold approaches are so unappealing to women. The right person isn’t gonna be some random hottie. It’s gonna be someone who is in your circles and has lots in common with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:03 PM
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I wonder when governments will realize that this overrides capitalisms need to constantly grow. There are simply too many of us right now and if we keep growing our populations the earth will find a way to wipe us out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:45 PM
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I don’t think unattractive guys agree with you that it’s easier to get pretty girls now lol. Unattractive men were never getting pretty girls unless they are rich. Gold digging has been around forever. But a regular unattractive dude can’t even get a woman in his league, which he could have back in the pre internet days. A small social circle allowed him to show off his personality to beat out the other ugly dudes. And the ugly girls had to get married, and had to choose someone. Might as well b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:23 PM
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See the thing is tho, men are interested in dating in the current environment because they want to chase pretty girls and get their dick wet. Women want stable relationships, which isn’t actually achievable for unattractive people in the current market. So that middle aged dude, probably does want to date. Hell, if I met someone I was really attracted to who was also attracted to me, I’d want to date too. But the internet has ruined us for chasing in our league. He wants someone he’s attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:08 PM
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It’s not a skills issue. I don’t want to date someone I’m not attracted to and I’m financially stable enough that I don’t have to. Presumably he feels the same way 🤷‍♀️ I’m aware of what my league is tho, so I’m not out chasing hotties either. I just settled into single life and I quite enjoy it. As I’m sure has been pointed out many times before, unattractive men aren’t competing with Chad. They are competing with the peace women (especially older divorced women) have found being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:37 PM
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Except that it doesn’t work so many people, especially on the men’s side, end up alone. Remember, unattractive women are pretty content being single and are far less likely to settle than unattractive dudes. I say this as a happily single unattractive woman (over 40, overweight)Those who do have success dating outside their immediate circles struggle to form lasting relationships. The attractive rich dude from the other side of town has nothing in common with me. Pretty hard to base a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:02 PM
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Prior to the internet, the dating pool for everyone was their small town and social circle. This meant that the numbers were pretty balanced. There have always been about 5% more boys than girls, but they go off and fight in wars etc. so basically, there was one man to one woman. This means, the bottom of the dating pool paired up with each other cause they had no choice, it was necessary to survival. Attraction only mattered for the top of the dating pool. Everyone else took what they get. Addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:39 PM
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This was beautifully and accurately written. I’ve been single and celibate almost 4 years and feel the exact same way. Once a woman has some time to find herself and grow her independence, she may no longer feel the need for a man in the house. I definitely don’t want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:20 AM
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Again, the standard western culture involves corn addiction and rap videos. You are talking about outliers. Women are all hoping to find an outlier, a diamond in the rough but keep finding standard western males with standard western values. And since standard western males are highly exposed to the manosphere and all the toxicity that involves, 80% of single women are simply choosing not to date. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will women choose singlehood and artificial insem…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:36 PM
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You’re acting like looks are the issue here. Being overly religious is abnormal in western society. If you have strong religious beliefs, then your dating pool is limited to those within your religion. There’s a very slim chance you could date outside your religion and try to convert them in or yourself out, but that rarely works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:24 PM
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You’re right. There’s introvert and extreme anti social and they aren’t the same thing. I’m an introvert. But I still socialize at least once a week. My socializing involves smaller groups, and may only be 2-3 hours, with plenty of downtime to decompress. And I still randomly chat to neighbors and coworkers daily. If you can’t handle that level of socialization, therapy is probably not a bad plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:03 PM
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Holy shit your defensive. Get over yourself. I said in my initial comment and several other comments that my issue is with UNNECESSARY use of big ass trucks. I get that you live rural and haul a horse trailer. In that case, no judgement. As an Albertan I certainly get that they are necessary at times. I also know that pavement princesses don’t need to exist to boost some assholes ego cause he has a small dick or barely hits 5’4” and that having 1 kid doesn’t immediately mean you need a mini van …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:08 AM
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In Alberta? I thought you lived here. This isn’t exactly a walkable place. But there’s a huge difference between unnecessarily driving a big ass truck and driving a basic Honda or Toyota. Just look at the difference at the pump. A basic ass Honda civic takes about $50-60 to fill, you get approximately 700 kms out of that. Trucks aren’t getting anywhere near that for fuel economy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:22 PM
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100% fair. I’m a 3rd generation Albertan. We have our own ways out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:11 PM
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Because men with low confidence exhibit certain behaviours that are obvious. Lifted trucks also tend to be aggressively and angrily driven as tho the driver is trying to prove his manhood. As I stated in another comment, it’s not necessarily about the dick size, it’s the attitude that comes with it, the lifted trucks are just visible sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:21 PM
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As a frugal, financially and environmentally responsible person, this is what bothers me so much. Plus the cost of gas and the damage caused to the environment driving a beast like that. All that cost and damage for an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:36 PM
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It’s less about the dick size itself and more about the attitude that comes with it. When a man feels like he’s shorter or has a small dick, the aggression and anger can be unmanageable. It’s called “small man syndrome” and that’s what women are actually avoiding when they avoid shorter men or those who appear to be compensating for something. ETA. This is why “some” short men can have enormous success. If he shows no signs of that aggression, anger or need to compensate, he can absolutely date …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:33 PM
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Damn. You guys should work on that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:24 PM
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The pavement princesses drive me nuts. Who the fuck spends $100,000 on a truck that never does truck things??!! Small dick dudes. That’s who. Lifted F350 to drive to his downtown office 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:55 PM
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The failure here is understanding that if no one wants you, you need to change. No one ever wanted undesirables. Makeovers and therapy exist for people who want to improve enough to be worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:52 PM
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Where do you live that no one says thank you? Canadian here, we all hold doors open for each other and everyone says thank you cause it’s common courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:49 PM
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Not only do women not care if you drive a fancy car, we also wonder what you’re compensating for if it’s overly fancy or you’re driving an oversized or lifted truck you don’t need. In my province lifted trucks are a dead giveaway to a small penis. It’s a great way to let literally EVERYONE know that you have a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:27 PM
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Let me see if I can find any fucks to give…. Nope, nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:16 AM
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I’m not American 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:09 AM
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It does seem to be hard for them to hear. It’s 5 days after I originally posted this comment and I’m still being attacked in the replies. Some men are absolutely floored and dismayed that older women just don’t care and aren’t interested. I’m actually surprised they care this much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:20 PM
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You don’t know me? Maybe keep the personal attacks to a minimum, they aren’t supporting your argument and make you sound unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:57 PM
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Why are you all bent out of shape? Like really, full on personal attacks cause I said I don’t care enough to bother anymore? Sorry your dating pool is shrinking cause women don’t think it’s worth it. Given how many times Ive read that women over 30 have hit the wall and aren’t worth the effort, you all should be happy we are voluntarily removing ourselves. Now you are free to chase all the 20 somethings who will give you the time of day. Oh wait, what’s that? 20 somethings don’t want men over 40…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:56 PM
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No one said I was? I’m over 40 too. Since I don’t think men are worth my effort, I dont put much effort into my appearance. I make sure I’m clean and presentable for work and live in sweatpants and tshirts the rest of the time. I could lose weight, change my hair and makeup, but again, we come back to, I don’t want to. I don’t think the reward (a man) is worth the money and effort that would go into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:02 PM
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Reposting here. Apparently we can’t support the original posters view in a debate post?? As a happily single woman, can confirm. I’m not seeking any men. At all. Ever again. And in fact, should one approach me it would be a hard no. Even if he looked like Brad Pitt. Once a woman has been single for a few years and her life is set up comfortably, she starts to ask if she would be willing change things to make room for a man in her life. The answer starts coming back, no. I’m also noticing this wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:15 PM
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I’ve heard women say they would want kids if they could be a dad. But they never want to be a mom. There’s good reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:14 PM
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Thanks tips. I don’t need advice. You missed the point of thread. I’m not seeking any men. At all. Ever again. And in fact, should one approach me it would be a hard no. Even if he looked like Brad Pitt. Once a woman over 40 has been single for a few years and her life is set up comfortably, she starts to ask if she would be willing change things to make room for a man in her life. The answer starts coming back, no. I’m also noticing this with younger women who don’t want or already have kids. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:54 PM
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Guess men better figure out what they can bring to the table or learn to enjoy being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:57 AM
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We don’t find them attractive either so I guess that’s fair. If they want companionship from women they better figure out what they are bringing to the table. Money won’t cut it, we have our own. If all they are gonna do is weigh my couch down for me, I have better things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:51 AM
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Those cultures and demographics are swiftly disappearing thankfully. Hopefully within my lifetime all women have complete freedom. Meanwhile there will always be ways to get pregnant without a partner. Perhaps less safe then artificial insemination, but effective nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:36 AM
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A lot of women don’t want kids or providers. If a woman does want kids, she has alternatives to settling for someone she doesn’t want kids with. Artificial Insemination has been a round a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:16 AM
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Fun = willing to get off the couch and do things, shared activities, dates and sexual adventures. In my experience, men over 40 aren’t really interested in this. Loving = showing affection to your partner. Presumably due to past relationship trauma, older men struggle to open up and show affection. Sexy = sexy. The wall exists for both genders. The silver fox exists, but he’s rare. The balding overweight couch sloth is far more common tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:04 AM
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As a divorced woman over 40, can confirm this. My life is fabulous as is and dating has been proved to reduce the quality of my life pretty significantly. Its too stressful and I always feel like my space is being intruded upon. I make good money and have a solid government pension. A man would have to add significant non financial benefits for me to consider dating him, and men over 40 typically add no value except money. They generally aren’t fun, loving or sexy. (Obligatory, not all men, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:10 PM
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Again, you’re trying to blame women when that’s just wrong. women support each other in doing what they want. I’m obviously the strong independent type. I do what I want and I wear sweatpants while doing it. I’m not here to impress men. Idc. Other women choose to be hot and spoiled by men and I respect the time, effort and money they put into looking good so they don’t have to work. It’s men who get upset and trash talk women for being independent or for being useless. For being unattractive or …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:50 PM
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You work really hard to blame things on women. The shit you say doesn’t even make sense but you’re willing to double down on it. We, as a species, are in an extreme state of evolution right now. What we are experiencing is the social equivalent of the Industrial Revolution, which we still haven’t sorted out. It’s still a war between communists and capitalists, after almost ten generations. Absolutely no one knows the right answers, everyone’s trying to figure it out. Men and women both don’t kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:37 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Cause at best, women born in the last 50 years in “free” countries have been given a mixed bag of messaging ranging from “look good to attract a man so you can stay home” to “don’t ever be dependant on a man”. No one knows what female independence looks like yet cause it’s never been done before on a large scale and it will take several generations at a minimum before we figure it out. Nice try tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:13 PM
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Women have only been allowed to be Independent for the last 50 years. And only in progressive countries. In many countries women still aren’t allowed to leave their homes without a male companion. Prior to that the patriarchy forced dependence on women. Men however have been able to experience independence for thousands of years. Obviously female independence is still in its learning and development stages, there are still many women alive today who were taught only dependence. Men on the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:43 PM
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This attitude seems to pop up in men who want to date only super attractive women. Those women devote a lot of time and money in their looks and don’t develop themselves much past that. Your wife is more likely an actual average woman who doesn’t worry that much about her looks, she’s living her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:29 PM
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Because sex is irrelevant to the point. Women can take it or leave it, apps mean it’s available “on tap” if it’s wanted. The real challenge for current men is competing with the single life. Women being financially independent means that men have to compete with her single life, meaning they have to be wanted as they are NOT needed. The single life is pretty sweet. I wouldn’t give it up, it’s way better than being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:05 PM
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What is with the bullet points? Your comments are super annoying to read. Try a paragraph or two instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:02 AM
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I notice that the large majority of the comments are some version of “it’s not fair!”. And I really want to slap these dudes. Life isn’t fair. It never was. Women have an easier time dating, and a harder time with almost everything else in life. Autistic people historically were not accommodated in any way, shape, or form. Until 20-40 years ago, they could fit in or fuck off and no one cared. I honestly think we as a society fucked everyone up when we started worrying about being fair to everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:11 PM
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Men often make exaggerated inferences based on arguments made by TikTok “stars” to confirm to themselves that women are more awful than they are. See how it takes two sides to play this game?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:07 AM
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You’re so full of crap. You commented on another thread that you absolutely date and fuck overweight women. You lie to them about what you want and effectively pump and dump them. Why would an attractive woman want to be with a liar who doesn’t respect women? If you want a forever person, you need to be worthy of a forever person, which you just aren’t. Looks aren’t everything, and your personality is severely lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:58 PM
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The only difference for women in the higher weights is that they can get laid. But it will be a horrible traumatizing experience that will make them feel like absolute shit. Dating when you’re obese is awful for everyone. I tried dating while obese, I ended up so traumatized that I won’t try at all now that Ive lost the weight (80 pound loss). It gave me too much insight to how horribly men can treat women and I’d rather stay single and celibate the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:03 PM
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100 pounds is NOT overweight, it’s morbidly obese and no one, male or female, is getting real matches at that size. At 50 pounds overweight (which is where my 3 guys are) you get matches, but they are also overweight. As for matching with women that are overweight now, that maybe delusion on their part, which happens the other way all the time or may be that you don’t look as good as you think. If you lost 100 pounds one would assume you’re carrying around a bunch of excess skin and don’t look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:50 PM
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That’s absolute bullshit and I’m tired of hearing it. I know three men that can’t get dates, my best friend, my ex husband and my son. They are all overweight. Every one of them wants a thin woman and treats overweight women like crap. They would all be happier with an overweight woman since not one of them wants to eat healthy and exercise so they need a woman whose lifestyle matches theirs. But “I don’t want that, she’s not attractive!! 😭😭”. So instead, they all get to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:36 PM
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Agreed but with an addition. Men don’t care about who a woman is, as long as she looks good. The men complaining could drop their standards and date less attractive or overweight women but refuse to do so. Or if they do, it ends up being a pump and dump scenario. They treat their looks match like crap and then get angry when they can’t get women out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:14 PM
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I’m on my own journey trying to figure that very thing out. I’m currently operating on the theory that men in general are selfish. They make decisions based on what they want with very little thought given to how their decisions affect others. A good example of this, is my dad (dead now) who forced my mom to move a 5 hour drive from both her children, and all her grandchildren while we were all still very young. His choice blew up our whole family, my brother and I were left to struggle on our o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:02 AM
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I agree, I’ve posted before that the change in social patterns has a lot to do with the current issues in dating. But that being said, even if social patterns hadn’t changed so much, women would still choose to be single if that was valid option back then. The lesson to take is that men have never been a good option for women and if they want to be a good option, there’s a vast amount of work to be done. My daughter has seen both me and my mother evolve past who we were when we were married, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:38 PM
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Today’s men aren’t necessarily any lower quality than their grandfathers. The grandfathers success came from the fact that women in his time were forced to accept bad relationships as the best of their bad options. If women back then had the same choices women today have, grandpa would have been lonely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:29 PM
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It’s going on dates, having fun, getting to know people. There might be sex if there’s multiple dates that go well. They might get into short term relationships. Or even long term relationships without living together or planning to get married. But they aren’t all out just casually fucking anyone and everyone. They are just living their lives and focusing on what they want to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:18 PM
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You assume they are having casual sex. The truth is likely that they don’t want commitment for the same reasons men don’t want it at that age. They are working on themselves. Getting educated and building careers. Some may date casually and some may not date at all. But they aren’t all out having a “hoe phase”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:04 PM
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This is gonna blow your mind. A very important factor in relationships is commonality in how you eat and activity levels. The women who love dad bods are attracted to them because that’s a visual signal that they are both kind of lazy and probably eat a similar diet. That’s why it’s common to see couples where both are overweight, or both are fit and healthy. It’s rare to see couples where one is fit and healthy and one is not because that’s relationship killing difference. Your going to eat wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:56 AM
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How do u figure? 50% of millennials get married. 50% of those marriages fail. That leaves 25% of millennials in a happy relationship. Which actually means my claim that only the top 20% get to be happy is closer to the truth than what your trying to claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:08 AM
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How many of those marriages are good healthy marriages? The divorce rate is still 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:47 AM
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She would be better off without the dude who screams and yells at her and has had 9 jobs in the last 1.5 years cause he can’t hold one for more than 2 months. He treats her horribly, she has to pay for everything and she STILL has to do all housework and groceries etc. Good relationship > single > bad relationship. She will learn this soon, she’s still young. And when she does, that’s another woman off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:43 AM
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This does happen. I’ve also seen men push their girlfriend into gaining weight, out of fear that if she’s attractive she will leave him. But if she’s not she has to stay with him. My daughter’s last boyfriend did this to her. Stocked the house with pop and candy, etc. always insisted they have takeout, etc. that relationship is over but now she’s struggling with her weight. And her new boyfriend resents her for being fat and treats her like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:33 AM
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It’s the same and it’s different. Both sexes are guilty, but it’s like this… Men will have sex with average/below average women but won’t get into relationships with them. Women want the relationship not just the sex. So ultimately, the women quit dating, and just hit the apps for a hottie when they want to fuck, leaving the attractive dudes getting laid, and the average dudes getting nothing. Women will get into relationships with average/below average men, but won’t just have sex with them. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:27 AM
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Men in general only want LTRs with 9/10s, regardless of what their league is. Beauty is the end all, be all for men. So even your overweight, minimum wage making, basement dwelling men, will not get into relationships with average and/or overweight women (In North America, the average is overweight, that’s just facts). Average women are used for sex and discarded. Since average encompasses all but maybe 10-20% of women, the other 90% are only finding men who want sex. After x number of years of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:43 PM
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He’s sugar dating and pretending that’s not what’s up. Newsflash, the older he gets, the more that’s gonna cost him, they will want rent paid, etc, etc to even talk to him, never mind food.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:07 PM
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This is the real problem. Tell a fat guy to date a fat woman and he will immediately whine about how she isn’t attractive enough. They all want some ideal hot woman way out of their leagues and refuse to settle for someone actually on their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:49 PM
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If there’s kids involved, it’s gonna be almost a 100%. No one wants to fuck up their kids stability if there’s a choice. Even without kids, divorce is a difficult and expensive process. So it’s still gonna be the large majority. Before a marriage ends the partners will try a myriad of interventions to prevent the divorce. Conversations, promises to change, trial separation, counselling and therapy, etc. My marriage was actually over somewhere around year 5 when my exes drinking and violence got …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:19 PM
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In the case of a long term marriage, it’s likely that the relationship was dead long before it was made official. In that case, the person moving on already had years to process that the relationship was going to end before it actually did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:53 PM
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And it still didn’t last 🤷‍♀️. Because you’re over 40 and settled in your life and she’s in her 20s and still figuring things out. Still comes down to a failure to be compatible. You may have gotten along but your life phases weren’t compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:21 PM
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I sure did, and what I got from it is simple, you date women who have nothing in common with you but you are attracted to. You’re still single cause attraction doesn’t do shit for compatibility and your relationships don’t last. So back to my original comment. Stop chasing hot and aim for compatible and you might actually end up in a happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:06 PM
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So you’re still single because you date women that are at a different phase in life than you are. Shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:58 PM
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So how come none of those relationships lasted? presumably because you’re over 40 and you have nothing in common with 20-year-olds
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:51 PM
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If you’re already balding at 20, then that sucks but most men who are balding are well over 30 you need to stop chasing 20-year-olds
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 PM
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This whole sub seems to be constantly about men wanting women out of their league and being angry cause it’s not working. If your a hot 20 something, date a hot 20 something. If you’re fat, date a fat girl. If you’re nerdy, find a nerdy girl. If you’re over 40, women over 40 are your market. A fat, old, nerdy guy dating a hot 20 something is gonna be miserable, she might be hot, but you won’t have anything in common. You won’t want to eat the food she eats to maintain her looks. She’s gonna want…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:24 PM
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You’re right, it’s better. All the support without all the stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:21 AM
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So a bunch of angry men are finally gonna put down the remote and get off their asses and do something? You guys can’t even organize men’s support groups and expect women or the government to do it for you. Yeah, there’s been an increase in incel violence, but it’s always one loner shooting up a school or grocery store. What you’re talking about would require actual organization that current generations of men are simply not capable of. Even if you did try to organize, it would have to be online…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:46 PM
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I don’t see it as a loss for me. I’m much happier now than I ever was in a relationship. I’ve had bad enough experiences to genuinely prefer being single. There comes a point in life where the risk doesn’t seem worth the potential rewards anymore. I hit that point 2.5 years ago, and the longer it goes, the more I enjoy my life as is and the less inclined I am to try again. Sex is not the same incentive for women as it is for men, we don’t “need” it. I get my emotional needs filled far better by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:25 PM
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That last part is bang on. Why would we care about random men’s opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:59 PM
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We aren’t going to be on dating apps or out man hunting either. We literally just go about our lives. If we meet someone IRL who ACTUALLY seems like a decent guy and someone we would want to date, we are open to it. But experience has taught us to move with extreme caution even then. I’m 2.5 years celibate and not bothered by it. I could easily see myself staying this way permanently. I enjoy my quiet life with friends and family and really don’t want to go back to being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:57 PM
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His dad (500+ pounds) had custody thru his teenage years. He was a normal weight when he lived with me. It’s not a situation I had control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:40 PM
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This is 100% the problem. 30 years ago, my parents had rules about us being home at least 2 weeknights a week, otherwise we were never home. It’s easy to date when you’re always out meeting people. That’s why older generations (like mine) didn’t struggle as much. If gen Z wants things to change, they need to leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:09 PM
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It’s not bait and switch. For some guys, “get in shape” is all they need to do. For others, there may be another issue, such as being broke or a social skills/personality issue. So getting fit is a great starting place for anyone struggling to date. If that doesn’t work, then they can reflect on what else may be the issue and work on that. If you ask a good friend for dating advice and they immediately tell you that you need to lose weight, get a better job, sort out your finances, learn to soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:41 PM
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I put my son (19 yrs old, approx 300 pounds) in boxing and have point blank told him he needs to loose weight, get in shape, get a drivers license and learn how to get past his social anxiety or he will not meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:36 PM
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Yes but those women don’t exist in their eyes. Only hot women (instagram models etc) actually exist. The guys complaining could be standing in a room with 100 women. But they will only see the top 10%. The thin ones under 25 wearing 2 pounds of makeup and slutty clothes. The other 90 women just don’t exist. That’s where AWALT comes from. It’s not ALL women, it’s all the women they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:20 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PassportBrosOnTop/s/C2kYqM3PfC
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:05 PM
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Foreign women are starting to put “no passport bros” on their dating profiles. Something tells me if the numbers double it will pretty quickly stop being an option at all. Shockingly, foreign women don’t want you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:32 PM
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Completely fail to realize that the attitude becomes so ingrained their moms can spot it. If your mom can spot it, you bet your ass anyone your own age can too. Had to call my 19 year old son out on it. Fuck was he embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:54 PM
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They become redpilled because they want women out of their league for relationships and want to play chads game with average women in their league. Average men always had a chance with actual average women. But they had to commit. Average men didn’t have access to casual sex. The redpill is a direct result of men deciding that wasn’t good enough for them. And now they are driving the market into the ground whining publicly about it. If you all had kept your mouths shut and accepted your deal, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:40 PM
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You aren’t understanding. Red pill is making these men MORE unattractive. As an average woman, I always dated average dudes. I knew “Chad” would just be a pump and dump scenario (we aren’t actually dumb. shocker, I know). So any average dude had a reasonable chance. Now, no dude has a chance, regardless of looks. If average dudes want to play chads game, they are no longer dating options. So me and all my average looking ladies (aged 25 to 66) are ALL out of the dating market. We are out because…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:01 PM
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They don’t seem to understand that with it being so mainstream, we can spot them a mile away. All it takes is one statement that sounds vaguely pilled and we are out. I’ve given my best friend (male) and my son shit for following red pill stuff, cause it’s a massive turnoff to all women when they start talking about chad. They are literally screwing themselves over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:14 PM
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I would argue that it is having an effect, largely that of driving women out of the dating market. The more mainstream it gets, the more women run into posts about it, the more women just say fuck it, men aren’t worth my time if they are playing games like this. I’m a middle age woman who always had a fairly active dating life, up until I ran into the pill shit online 3 years ago. Haven’t dated since, and not for lack of options. Additionally, we talk to our friends and family about it. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:31 PM
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At higher ages, we as women are more aware of the caregiver aspect that’s coming up. I wouldn’t date much older than me at 43, cause I don’t want to date someone whose health is gonna fail well before mine. I’m not interested in being a nurse. My mom is 66 and she says the same thing. She’s not interested in anyone over 70 cause she doesn’t want to be a nurse!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:02 PM
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You feel it’s the bare minimum. But statistically, it’s the top 5% in North America. Your dating pool is what it is, not what you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:52 PM
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It is if they also have to be not fat and under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:20 AM
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It’s the age that makes it so low. Only 21% of women in the US are between 20-29. And men of all ages are chasing them. Take the married, overweight and the single moms out of that pool and you are left with very few women that meet the standard. Non fat-under 30-no kids is the male version of 6-6-6. And just as ridiculous an expectation in North America at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:51 PM
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I’ve known this for ages. I wondered when you guys were gonna figure out that you actually ARE chasing after the top 5% of women. Every time I see “all I want is a non fat woman under 30 with no kids” I wonder how delusional you have to be to not realize that’s the top 5% in North America. It’s not female hypergamy that’s the issue, those women deserve the top 5% and are not gonna settle for average. It’s been male hypergamy all along, you have been shooting out of your leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:55 PM
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Make sure your also someone everyone likes. Everyone might know the creepy guy sitting in the corner, but that’s not gonna get him far.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:29 PM
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Don’t date. Only system that works 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:12 PM
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Sliding scale. More attractive women will get more relationship offers, less attractive women will get less. So, an instagram model type would have every guy trying for a relationship, while an overweight woman will only get offers of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:11 PM
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Oil change 1 hour 4 x a year. 4 hours labor Dinner and dishes 1 hour 365 days a year. 365 hours labor. You see how that math doesn’t quite work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:34 PM
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My dad was a tradesman, HVAC. He didn’t reshingle his own roof without help from his roofer buddies. It would have been a shit job if he did. All these tech bros and other office workers would either kill themselves or wreck the house trying to do it. Frankly, I wouldn’t trust any of these guys to change out a lock, never mind fix my roof. They aren’t handy, they just wait for the wife to call the roofers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:42 PM
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Ok let’s break this down in terms you might be able to understand. Paying the bills requires 16 hours of labor per day done by two people. 8 hours each. Childcare, cooking, cleaning, finances, chauffeuring, animal care, home maintenance, social scheduling and attendance, etc, etc, etc…. Takes another 8 hours a day. One person is doing all of that. So in the traditional Gen x family with two working parents. That’s one parent, the father, doing 8 hours labor a day. And one parent, the mother doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:06 PM
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Then there should also have been someone doing half the housework, etc. but there wasn’t. All you’re doing now is proving my point. Men did 25% of the work by paying half the bills and doing no housework etc. While women did 75% of the work by paying half the bills and doing all the housework, etc. but the men were “breaking their backs to pay for it all”, according to you. Your math isn’t mathing there bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:46 PM
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Did ya miss the part where women were also working and paying half the bills? Or do you figure my ex husbands cushy office job that paid the same as my cushy office job was harder and therefore he deserved to not have to do anything at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:20 PM
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Gen x weighing in here. That was my life. Made half the money, paid half the bills, still did all the housework/childcare/social planning etc. we were told we “could have it all”. We weren’t told that having it all would destroy us mentally and physically. Younger women have figured out this is bullshit and don’t want their mom’s lives. Young men DO want their dad’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:01 PM
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This whole thread is about mass immigration as a policy and how it affects dating. And now you’re mad and calling me racist because I pointed out an actual problem that’s resulting from mass immigration? Did I single out a race? Or a color? No, you did that. Jumped right to brown people. Screaming racism every time someone discusses immigration policies doesn’t work to shut down the conversation anymore. Mass immigration policies are fair game to be discussed. They affect everything, housing, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:03 PM
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My favorite person (not a boyfriend) and I are just like this. We text all day about random shit, send memes and vids, whatever. When we hang out, we talk about everything. Politics, culture (he’s Lebanese Muslim Canadian, I’m white agnostic canadian.), our families, our pets, books, shows, our plans for our day off, or nothing at all. We can sit for hours and not say a word to each other while being perfectly content, that takes time tho. That comfortable silence comes from years of knowing som…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:18 PM
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Everything you just said is incorrect. You don’t follow Canadian immigration news clearly. The temporary residents are a huge issue because they never intend to leave and they don’t. People who receive deportation orders don’t leave. The government is trying to pass laws that allow illegal residents to become citizens. Our government is following the century initiative and attempting to increase our population to 100 million (more than double our current population) by 2100. We are bringing appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:33 PM
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There’s only 11 million people in that age range (25-44). And our government seems bound and determined to keep increasing immigration. This is the first time the difference has been significant enough to get its own article. But if immigration keeps increasing the numbers will get worse. Additionally, Canada has a huge population of temporary and/or illegal immigrants. If we factored those in (which would be majority male) what are the REAL numbers? The current numbers are only accounting for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:18 PM
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This IS happening (article from last week) https://www.calgarysun.com/news/national/immigration-surge-fuels-male-population-boom-in-canada So I can’t imagine it’s going to be good for the men on this sub. If you couldn’t get a date when there was gender balance, you sure as hell won’t be getting one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:33 PM
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This is it exactly. Women having been given the opportunities have far exceeded what men can do. We are higher educated, and more successful in the workforce. Men are still thinking they deserve a woman when they work at Walmart. On top of that, women are still doing the lions share of housework and child care. My daughter watched me work myself nearly to death while also doing everything at home. Guess who doesn’t want to get married and have kids? Men need to step up to be worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:09 PM
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If you live in a country with high immigration, odds are there’s a gender imbalance. This was in my local paper last week. (Canada). We now officially have 141000 more men than women in the 25-44 age range. https://www.calgarysun.com/news/national/immigration-surge-fuels-male-population-boom-in-canada So stop assuming it’s 50/50. There are more men than women in western countries with high immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:31 PM
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You just used your lack of friends as an excuse why you can’t go meet people. It was a fair assumption. But the next thing you did was make a bunch of excuses for why you have no friends in your current city. You havent made any effort at all to make any friends in your new city. If you don’t like the people your age, make friends from a different age group. You’re not a teenager anymore, doesn’t matter. Don’t like your coworkers? Try talking to your neighbors. Still can’t make friends? Voluntee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:59 PM
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It’s probably an indicator of a deeper problem if you can’t find 1 person willing to go out with you. You have no friends at all? Cousins? Siblings? Coworkers? Anyone? If you can’t maintain a single platonic relationship, how are you going to navigate the complexities of a romantic relationship? If that’s the case, getting cleaned up and going to the bar won’t solve your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:40 PM
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Because staying home and scrolling apps while gaming is a lot easier than cleaning yourself up and going out to talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:57 PM
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No. Religious communities tend to be closed off to outsiders. You would have to be able to fake it pretty well. Immigrant women rarely immigrate alone. They immigrate with parents or husbands. If they immigrate with parents, it’s likely the parents will be choosing their husband, and they will choose someone from their community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:26 PM
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I’m Canadian. We still care about our health 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:45 PM
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And yet they do 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:38 PM
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Historically, that’s been true. Women were in charge of cooking, cleaning, family organization, appointments etc. men didn’t give any of these things a second thought. Education on these things was mainly passed down mother to daughter, it wasn’t taught in school and social media didn’t exist. Men literally had no clue. That has improved in younger generations for obvious reasons, but not as much as you would think. Men as a group are just starting to learn these things now, and it’s a whole new…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:05 PM
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Women will nag men to eat better. Women will nag men to ensure that hygiene standards are met. Women will encourage men to exercise. Even if it’s just an evening stroll. Women will nag men to go to the doctor. This failed with my father and he died at 54 because he refused to go to the doctor after he dropped the engine from a ‘72 barracuda on his arm. Dropped dead of a pulmonary embolism a week later. My mom apparently didn’t nag enough that time. Women will nag men about bad habits like drinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:33 PM
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It’s really simple. A persons personality will be determined in large part by their life experiences. A very pretty girl will have always been treated better and gotten away with more. She will have been constantly told shes pretty starting from under 5 years old. She will have been spoiled and given gifts just cause she’s “so cute”. Therefore, they do what they want, and treat people however they want because they have never been put in their place for it. A girl who grew up being less attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:01 PM
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Your first sentence clearly stated your problem. You go for women who are equally or more attractive than yourself, according to you. You probably aren’t as attractive as you think you are. So actually your going for women who are just more attractive than you. Men don’t get to date up in looks unless they have something else going for them, ie: money or an amazing personality. Your theories here are just you trying to cope with the fact that you simply aren’t desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:55 PM
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No he doesn’t have a chance, if a woman finds out a guy lied he’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:50 PM
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This is a bizarre take. Some people are just introverts and prefer peace and quiet over other peoples drama and screaming children. I would counter with people who cause drama or who let their kids misbehave in public, causing others to hate kids, are trashy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:23 PM
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I never said anything about age. I said it’s a valid choice for SOME people. Someone who’s asexual might make that choice in their teens. Most people would make it after years of experience. The age of people making that choice would depend on the person and the experiences they have had. Normally I wouldn’t expect someone in their teens/early 20s to make that choice. My sons 19 and has no dating experience. It would be a bit early to see what direction this is going to go for him. My daughter i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:23 PM
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My past relationships were not great. Moreover, I have been watching generational struggles in dating what with my mom, my daughter and myself all dating in the same time periods. Our struggles are all the same. Men want super hot, young, thin women, regardless of their age and attractiveness. If you don’t meet those criteria, it doesn’t matter how smart, kind, capable or hardworking you are, they will use you for money, sex, cooking and cleaning and then drop you when it’s convenient for them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:12 PM
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Marriage and relationships aren’t for everyone. I spent my teens/early 20s dating. My mid 20s-mid 30s married, my late 30s dating again. Now I’ve spent my early 40s not even attempting to date and it has been amazing, my stress levels are way down. My depression is pretty much gone. I’ve had a few years to develop my interests and hobbies independently, and I love my life now. I’m happier now than I’ve ever been. And I’m at the point where it’s likely I would reject anyone who asked me out cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:54 PM
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Ffs. You decided to date an attractive woman who likes clubbing. Presumably, you knew she liked clubbing before you dated her. Now 4 months in, she’s supposed to give up something she enjoys because you are insecure. No. If you want a woman who stays home and doesn’t go clubbing, then you find one who already does that. You can’t change people to suit your preferences. You might as well break up with her, cause this relationship is already doomed, you aren’t compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:33 PM
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If there’s nothing wrong with it, then why is everyone so mad about women playing the field in their 20s and then settling down in their thirties when they are ready?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:41 PM
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He feels it should be mentioned because these red pill idiots think looks are the most important thing. Literally a bunch of 5s at best chasing 9-10 women. The last thing they ever want to do is date a chubby girl with a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:29 PM
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Because they hang around party girls who like drugs and casual sex and are often willing to put out free sex for free drugs. That’s not your market anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:31 PM
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Only the stuff that matters right?! None of that pesky external stuff 🙄 s/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:26 PM
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Shockingly, older women also enjoy their bachelorette lifestyles and don’t really want to compromise on it either. If a woman wants kids that bad and can’t find a man she WANTS to raise kids with, she will have an unprotected ONS, freeze her eggs and get a sperm donor or adopt. Women are not the ones who suffer in this scenario. We just adapt like always. This obsession with women ending up alone is silly. Women who want kids have way more options for how to do that than men who want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:14 PM
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Dude, at what point did either of us say we do that? I’ve been overweight most of my life, that was never a game I played. And I don’t think Lilith does either. You are making the mistake of blaming actual average women for the behaviour of attractive women. That was the whole point of my original comment. Men keep chasing hot women and then blame ALL women for the behaviour of hot women. It’s not all women that do this shit, it’s the ones you all want to fuck that do this shit, cause they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:05 PM
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Back to the original comment, “women who INVEST in their looks are looking for a return on that investment.” Thats what Lilith is talking about. That return can come from escorting, only fans, sugar daddies or a rich husband. But yes essentially, women who put out huge $$$ and hours a day in effort for hair, clothes, makeup and an ideal body are doing it to make money in one form or another. They are not doing it to please broke joe average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:48 PM
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No it doesn’t. Those messages are more often than not a “shotgun” approach. It’s well known men play the numbers game and match and message women they aren’t interested in all the time. That’s why women quit dating sites en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:39 PM
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Thank you, I was just about to explain this to him. Men here, thankfully, are not actually the general population of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:08 PM
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If you are only interested in young, attractive, thin women, you are only interested in the top percent of women looks wise. There’s outliers that like older women and chubby women but they aren’t here complaining because they are out dating those women. The guys that are here complaining, as evidenced by all the comments that say “I want an attractive woman!!! 😭”, are complaining because they are chasing hot and don’t have the money to attract it or they did attract it and lost all their money,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:45 PM
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The comments here proved exactly what I’ve always thought is the issue here. The guys here are constantly complaining about the 80/20 rule. But then they chase only the top 20% of women exclusively (young, thin, beautiful) and decide AWALT. Here’s the thing, the cold hard truth that has existed for all time, women who INVEST in their appearance do it to get a return on that investment. They see men as wallets, and their appearance as a way to open those wallets. Most Men who date and marry these…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:47 PM
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You are not understanding that there’s a difference between child support and alimony. Child support pays for the kids. Alimony pays for the spouse who sacrificed their potential earnings to care for the family, regardless of whether or not there are kids involved. If you want a stay at home wife, you are responsible for paying for her lost income in the event of a split. They are two completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:02 PM
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As a woman who has lost 70 pounds post divorce, it’s just lifestyle changes that aren’t possible in a relationship. Living alone means I can ban all non healthy food from my house. Booze, sugary drinks, sweet/fried/salty snacks, red meat (I have high cholesterol) and especially take out and restaurant food. I have only coffee for breakfast, eat fresh fruit for lunch, salads with chicken breast for dinner and plain Cheerios with fruit and low fat milk at bedtime. I get 1 cheat meal a week. Ive ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:45 AM
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Hindsight is 20/20. I’d love to go back and do things differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:45 AM
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I’m Canadian, it’s def happening here. Can’t say bout the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:43 AM
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I wish this was true, but I raised two teenagers. I used to nag them to go out, cause I found it so strange they were always home and worried about it. My girl did socialize a bit and she’s had a couple boyfriends. My son is a hard core gamer who really NEVER goes out and has never had a date at 19. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t following one of these pills at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:50 PM
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And then as a young adult, I was out on weekends. House parties, bars, picnics, bbqs, backyard fires, community events, kids stuff like zoos, amusement parks, movies. Up until roughly 2010, I was always out doing something at least once a week. Both when I was single and when I was married with kids. Now, I’m the same as a everyone else here, technology let me give in to my introvert impulses more and more over time and now I almost never do that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:44 PM
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This 100% true. I have always depended on my extrovert friends. They know I’m an introvert and how to help me socialize more. I’d be lost without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:41 PM
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I find it very difficult to maintain a convo with someone I don’t know, especially by text, in person allows me to read their body language. But I also mentioned that I would usually be meeting someone with other people there that I DO know well. So the conversation tends to flow much more naturally that way. Two introverts trying to make conversation on their own is awkward as fuck 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:35 PM
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In theory, yes. But I’m a shy introvert. Online dating doesn’t make it any easier. All my relationships are the result of IRL meetings thru friends. It’s easier to talk to someone new with the support of a friend. As a shy introvert, text convos and/or video calls with strangers are the seventh circle of hell. First dates are even worse. I deleted my profiles a couple years ago and would much rather stay single than try to deal with that. The only way I would date any one at this point if I met …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:19 PM
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Women can find sex no problem. For sure. But they aren’t getting quality relationships off OLD. And since they want the relationship, not just the sex, it’s just as bad for them. That’s why the ratio is so off. If women were getting what they wanted on OLD, there would be more women on it. Technology is the the problem, not women, not feminism, not whatever else you want to blame. And it’s a problem for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:42 PM
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It’s OLD and I guess cold approaches in grocery stores etc, as to whether or not it makes a difference, idk, those are the two worst ways to meet someone so I doubt they have much success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:07 PM
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If you have friends and social hobbies, then yes, you can meet someone while “not looking”. But a big percentage of the guys here are gamers. They work and go home. No friends, no social activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:41 PM
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Well, historically women were forced to marry no matter what. So it didn’t matter how good/bad a man was, he would still get a woman. The equation was this: any relationship > single. Now the equation is this: good relationship > single > bad relationship. So now men have to be good enough to be preferred over being single. But since this is the first time in thousands of years that has happened, they have no clue how to achieve that. It’s gonna take few generations to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:57 PM
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Who says your gonna get mauled? See this is the problem. You jump to worse case scenario without considering that there’s value in the activity. I live 2 hours from the mountains. I’ve been hiking, camping, quadding and fishing all my life. I’ve had tons of encounters with animals. Geese, bears, moose, which were scary but exciting. But also, deer, rabbits, loons, eagles and many others that are just really cool. I wouldn’t give up my experiences because of the risk. What’s the point of living l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:29 PM
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As a parent, you are somewhat trapped by society. I was more of a free range style parent myself, but there’s limits cause if a teacher at any point decides what your doing is risky, you will now be dealing with CPS. And it did change fast and got progressively worse. My older kid actually turned out well, she was born in ‘97 and it was still possible to play outside, there were other kids who did. So she’s more adventurous and willing to try things. My son was born in ‘04 and there was no kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:20 PM
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Don’t know what that is, sounds boring. 2. Yes there’s cameras now. So you’re not going to do all the things we did, but the point is, due to your upbringing, you won’t take ANY risks, that’s the problem. There’s tons of risks that aren’t illegal, the 3 examples I gave didn’t involve doing anything illegal. But they all involve a risk and they are all fun things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:29 PM
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All your best stories in life will come from taking a risk. Good stories are what makes a person interesting and fun to hang out with. Gen x always has the best stories cause we grew up with no supervision (I had two working parents and a key to the house at 7). I couldn’t even begin to list the crazy shit I did when I was young. We got hurt, a lot and we had a lot of fun. Gen z is basically the helicopter parent generation. Overprotected and never learned to take risks. Your date isn’t going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:39 PM
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Brothels wont solve the problem. There’s escorts etc now that many incels wont use cause it’s not about sex, it’s about being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:00 PM
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Not so much anymore. People are far more isolated than they used to be. As a divorced 43f, I don’t meet people in the real world anymore. I wfh, and I’m fairly introverted, don’t drink or party anymore. OLD is awful so I gave up entirely and just enjoy my single life. The kids basically grew up online. I was utterly confused when my teenagers never went out. As young adults, they still don’t go out. Kids don’t drink and party like we did. They don’t seem to really socialize at all outside of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:10 PM
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But would they want a dude that’s bigger than them doing it? That’s the question ya all need to be asking yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:06 PM
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So, first it’s women’s fault cause we voted for it. But now that the numbers and facts prove that it’s both sexes who voted for it, you don’t care who voted. Nice backpedaling. Also, women ARE giving up having kids and relationships to pursue careers. That’s what this post is about and what half the sub is mad about. Now they can’t get women AND they have to work for them. Aw 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:18 PM
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63.8 % of women voted and 60.6% of men voted. That’s a 3.2% difference. Hardly the HUGE majority you’re trying to make it out to be. You can’t sit here and say that women are at fault for our majority male government’s policies. We have had exactly ONE female prime minister and she lasted all of 132 days. The policies you are upset about were put in by a majority MALE government. https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=rec/eval/pes2021/evt&document=p1&lang=e But sure, it’s all wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:07 PM
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In a country where government and corporations, whom the large majority of decision makers are men, are importing labor to keep wages low, your saying that’s women’s fault 😂. It’s greedy men who want huge profits off real estate and the backs of the working class. When the working class got too uppity they decided to import slave labor. But it’s women’s fault 🙄 Oh btw, maybe you’re too young to remember, but JT got voted in by young people (men and women) who wanted legal weed. At least we got t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:59 PM
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Even if a man’s fertility doesn’t drop significantly, he’s still on a clock. 40 year old men get 40 year old women. Despite the fantasies, they aren’t getting a 25 year old at 40 unless they are filthy rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:28 PM
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People with actual hobbies have things to talk about. All the “normies” I know including myself have hobbies and talk about them. Going on a first date with someone who I can discuss hobbies with is much more fun than going in a date with someone who has nothing to talk about. Obviously only one of them is getting a second date. Hint, it’s not the guy with nothing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:10 PM
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The attractive ones tend to not be so bad, cause they do it when people are around. The unattractive ones are especially creepy cause they wait till your alone. Trapped in an elevator/parkade/empty hallway, whatever. That’s scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:01 PM
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The apps are dying a slow death. Women have left en masse. There will only be a dating renaissance if men step up and start approaching. I’ve been single/celibate for two years. I live in a large building that is FULL of single men, they check me out when they think I’m not looking and most of them are friendly and smiley when I’m around, they have known me for 2 years and I’m one of the very few single women living here. But not one has found the courage to speak up. Others that don’t talk to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:41 PM
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It’s a choice that we make. I’m going on two years, purely by choice and have no desire to start dating again. Since removing myself from the market I’m significantly happier and less stressed out. So I’m guessing it’s gonna be a real long dry spell cause I have no desire to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:19 PM
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Because for every 30-50 pounds a man gains he loses an inch of dick https://penuma.com/blog/does-losing-weight-make-your-penis-bigger/ It’s simple math boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:56 AM
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Oh! I’m going to have to read that!! Thank u!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:34 AM
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I’m gen x canadian. I fully plan to use MAID when shit gets out of control. My kids don’t plan on having kids cause we don’t think it’s gonna get better for a few generations. Society is gonna need a long time to adjust to the population collapse. I really don’t think people are going to continue to live to 90 years old here. It would be unbearable. If we don’t opt out on our own, the government will force it eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:24 AM
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Depends on location, small town maybe not. But I live in a big city. It’s literally less than a few hours on a dating site to get whatever I want. And that’s for an overweight, over 40 woman. There’s always going to be attractive guys looking for quick sex. If average guys don’t want to commit to average women, we have options. That’s what all these incels are angry about. Your angry about it. “She’s delusional cause she banged a chad”. No she’s not. She knows she can bang chads whenever she wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:14 PM
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Your still missing the point. It’s not delusion. I’m well aware that I’m average at best. Knowing that, I would always date average guys, short, chubby, didn’t matter as long as they were decent people. But the reason for dating average guys was because I wanted a relationship, not just casual sex. However, average guys are pulling the same pump and dump/situationship type stuff. They don’t want to commit to average women. So they use us placeholders. Average women like me decide, this is bullsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:57 PM
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This guy is a special one. He went thru all my comment history and started replying to my purple pill comments, on a post in “neighbours from hell”. I have my doubts about the girlfriend, he’s excessively invested in this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:52 PM
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It truly depends on the drug, and the stage of addiction, meth is creating a storm of violence, opiates are creating a healthcare crisis. All I’m arguing is that addicts aren’t harmless like people want to claim, even if the damage isn’t direct (violence). And I’m not blaming addicts. I’m just exhausted of this narrative that addiction doesn’t cause issues for everyone else. It 100% does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:18 PM
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Idk who your replying to. I didn’t say any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:35 PM
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https://edmontonjournal.com/business/record-number-of-opioid-calls-strains-alberta-ems-system/wcm/8a0229a3-d2cb-4f56-b350-318bfff501f0/amp/ Common problem in Canada. Many people have died as a direct result of there not being ambulances available due to the overdose crisis. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6719368 What if this was your mom/grandma? What if you have a heart attack today and have to wait 30-60 mins for an ambulance cause a bad batch hit the streets and the overdoses are overwhelming today…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:31 PM
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This is common in my generation. (Gen x). Post divorce my ex husband gained 300 pounds, needed me to teach him how to do the day to day banking, clean the house, book appts etc, etc. Then he lost his job and became a full time drug dealer and hasn’t filed his taxes or anything in almost ten years. He also has no social life anymore and spends all his time alone or with “clients”. I hope millennial and gen z men aren’t still doing this. A lot of Gen x men are suffering enormously due to how much …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:17 PM
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Are drunk driving and domestic violence rates marginal? Do they have no effect in society as whole? You are just moving goalposts. I can do that too. You claim addicts aren’t violent, i prove they are, you try to change to “but it won’t affect society!!” Really? What’s the effect of millions of people not being able to use transit or walk to work safely? What’s the effect of high rates of domestic violence (this includes siblings, parents etc, not just spouses)? What’s the effect of high rates o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:51 PM
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Here’s a sampling of a very few of the most high profile crimes by addicts in Canada in the last year or so. Our transit systems in major cities are longer safe to use cause the addicts took over. People are randomly attacked daily in all the major cities here. https://globalnews.ca/news/9147430/saskatchewan-stabbings-myles-sanderson-death-overdose/amp/ https://globalnews.ca/news/9599142/downtown-calgary-stabbing-police-april/amp/ https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2023/3/28/1_633339…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:15 PM
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You have clearly never been exposed to a mid-late stage addict. They can be exceedingly violent because the substances have destroyed their sanity and they know their life is destroyed so they don’t care what they do to other people. “Just” being addict is exceedingly dangerous for everyone around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:37 PM
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Seems to me it’s pretty obvious that this guy doesn’t want a party girl. Which is fine. Don’t date party girls. However, the problem is this. He wants a hot woman. Party girls put a lot of time, effort and money into their looks when they go out partying and post pics on instagram. The women guys like this are actually compatible with aren’t going to spend 3 hours and hundreds of dollars to look good so they can hang out at home. So guys. The solution is easy. Stop focusing on looks and start da…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:02 PM
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But, the women who suit their lifestyles are “fat” or “unattractive” cause they don’t stress about their weight and dress up with 5 pounds of makeup to sit at home and watch their man play video games. They want women who are hot, regardless of anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:18 PM
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If wages went up at the same rate as housing costs, it would still cost 30% of a single income to pay for housing and the kids could afford to have babies. Come on, you claim to be a genius. Guess math and economics just aren’t your strong point eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:12 AM
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And yet you can’t understand that there’s a difference between the economy when your kids were born, checks notes, at least 20 years ago and now? Ya know, when rent and mortgage payments averaged no more than 30% of a single income and it now costs 50% of two incomes to afford a home? That high iq isn’t doing you much good if you can’t understand basic economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:46 PM
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So age isn’t the issue, clearly intelligence is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:50 PM
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People over 25 with life experiences and a modicum of intelligence actually look at their budgets to decide if they can afford to have kids before they have them. So yes, young and dumb people still pull shit like that. Then they raise the future traumatized delinquents that will not contribute to society. Responsible working class and middle class people opt out when they realize their kids will suffer if they have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:19 PM
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Young people in the western world shouldn’t get invested in having kids at all. The economy/housing situation is screwed and people are too broke for babies. This is playing out in Canada right now and it’s gonna play out in other places too. Honestly, I think it’s gonna be interesting to see how this goes, but the hyper focus on the “sexlessness epidemic 🙄”, is a joke. The young men who focus on this to the exclusion of all else are gonna have some hard lessons when reality hits and finding a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:12 PM
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When I’m considering a guy for relationship, I’m way more concerned with personality and compatibility than looks. I’ve dated some fat/short/ugly dudes with great personalities. If I were to be looking for a guy for casual, which is rare btw, has to be a hell of a dry spell for me to do that, none of the personality stuff matters. Im gonna bang him and kick him out. So the only thing that matters at that point is that he’s hot. And I’m well aware that I can bang a hot dude with pretty much no ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:57 PM
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Can confirm. This works both ways. The more satisfied I am with my life, the more men come sniffing around. Almost like happy people draw others to them and miserable people drive them away? Shocking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:01 PM
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The problem is the hyper focus on looks to the exclusion of everything else. Your average “Stacy” has experienced pretty privilege all her life. She doesn’t have to work on her personality, hobbies, or career prospects. She spends loads of time and money on her looks, expecting that she will get a return on that investment (hot, rich dude). Being in a relationship with her would be an absolute nightmare cause she’s gonna be demanding and have very high expectations. She’s gonna blow thru your mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:14 PM
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70% of relationships fail in the first year. As we all know, more than 50% of those that make it to marriage will still divorce. Do you think that happens cause relationships are easy or hard? https://2date4love.com/relationship-breakup-statistics/#:~:text=What%20percentage%20of%20couples%20break%20up%3F&text=70%25%20of%20straight%20couples%20break,breakup%20rate%20drops%20to%2020%25.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:33 PM
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I never said a thing about older women or age at all. It doesn’t matter the age. Your too old to date high schoolers and most women have some relationship/dating experience by their 20s. The ones who don’t, aren’t going to be ones you want to date, cause your all upset about me saying your gonna have to drop your standards. They can be patient and tolerant when teaching a man in his early 20s how it all works, but there’s an expectation that by your age, you will have some clue. There’s also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:13 PM
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Women under 25 are the most pursued demographic, men of all ages are chasing them. They have the most options. They will be the first to nope out when you do something clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:59 PM
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With no relationship experience? Yup. What woman is gonna want to put up with all the bullshit of teaching you how a relationship works when she can just find someone who already has experience? Your comments have revealed your cluelessness about how it all works and the fighting would be ridiculous. It wouldn’t be worth the effort, especially since you want a relationship for “status”, not because you actually care about someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:51 PM
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Men around here like to believe they are going to band together and take down society if they don’t get attractive women. It won’t happen. It’s easy to believe this a huge problem affecting millions when you spend all your time an echo chamber and your social media algorithms are bringing you incel content all the time. It’s actually a very small proportion of men being effected. The numbers will likely go up, and more will fall to addiction, suicide and crime. However. If the numbers got big en…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:40 PM
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Having read the post and all the comments, you are absolutely clueless about what’s involved in a relationship. I would genuinely feel sorry for anyone who tried to be in one with you. Also, having only had casual sex, I’d be willing to bet you’re terrible in bed. Relationships are where the learning happens. People have to be fully comfortable with someone to open up about their needs and wants, that doesn’t happen in casual sex. You need a relationship for a lot more than status. But having wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:06 PM
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Men do not hate makeup and plastic surgery. They hate the fact that women don’t look like that naturally. They want us all to wake up looking like an instagram selfie everyday. The women who get the most attention are always the ones who invest ridiculous amounts of time, effort and money into their looks. Women who dont do those things are considered unfeminine and tend to be overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:51 AM
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No thoughts on men lying about their height. But women shouldn’t lie about their weight, for the woman’s sake. I’m an overweight woman, and men are not gentle about this. A woman lying about her weight is gonna take huge hit on her self esteem when he either ditches her right off, or pumps and dumps her. Be honest from the start or you’re gonna get hurt way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:30 PM
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No they haven’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:34 PM
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Why would I tell this sub what behaviours we use to identify them? There’s behaviours. People know what they are. A guy who is an incel but didn’t exhibit any of those behaviours, would not be assumed to be one. A guy who does exhibit those behaviours will be identified as one, regardless of his actual status. Your definition is the correct literal one, it’s not the one that gets used in the real world. No one really cares about whether or not someone is having sex, they only care about the beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:52 PM
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First off. You went the wrong direction on limited time. I’m 42, not 62, mortality isn’t my concern, and I’m hardly running out of time for any of the things I want to do. I have a full time job, a home, 3 animals that require care, two adult children, an aging mother with health problems, and friends that need attention. I have a few hours a week to spare. Im not gonna spend that chasing disappointment. There may be a small percentage of young men who genuinely want guidance. But the prevailing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:35 PM
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I already answered that. It’s all in the behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:01 PM
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Yeah, something tells me you and I don’t run in the same circles there bud. Just cause something is outside your realm of experience doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:56 PM
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I’m saying that older women have limited time and if they are engaging in casual sex, it’s because they don’t have time/patience for a full relationship. If young men were willing to be taught, we might have the patience to deal with it. But since they are only seeking their own pleasure and are frequently too arrogant to be taught, there’s zero benefit to the woman. Alpha widow?? 😂😂😂😂. You should see my ex husband. That poor bastards so homely he hasn’t touched a woman in 8 years. I married him…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:54 PM
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Behaviour. It’s really not hard to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:47 PM
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You’re assuming young is pleasurable. In my world young = inexperienced. That’s not a thing I want to deal with. He might be teachable, but more likely to be too arrogant to give a crap cause in his world young = pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:06 PM
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For relationships obviously that’s what they want. But since they can’t have it they pull all kinds of bullshit with older women hoping they will get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:03 PM
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Doesn’t stop them from trying. I’m not anymore. I quit dating completely two years ago. I also stopped participating in kink events/clubs/chats. Want to guess why? I’ll give you a hint. It has something to do with the mass amounts of single young men who flooded all those avenues and drove ALL the women away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:01 PM
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Yeah. Too many incels tried this. It’s not the sure fire bet ya think it is. Older women are now aware of the game. Source, I’m 42F. I’m well aware of the game. Any man more than 5 years younger than me would be immediately shutdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:42 PM
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It’s the attitude that develops as a result the insecurity. Men who have what we used to call “short man syndrome” are always looking for a fight. They put others down, are rude, abrasive and if they get a couple drinks in them, they will fight anyone. They aren’t good partners because they don’t treat their partners any better than anyone else. Not all short men are like this. But enough are. No one cares if you’re short, just don’t be an asshole about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:58 PM
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Job losses happen to everyone at some point. Did the person start immediately trying to find another job? Or did they give up and sit on the couch for 6 months and do nothing to mitigate the situation? If it’s the first one, then of course one should stand by their partner while they get back on their feet. If it’s the second, that’s an issue Edit to add: the first step should still be marriage therapy if the partners actually care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:29 PM
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So if your partner is massively stressed out about work/finances/family or any of the other things that can happen, your should be able to sleep around cause their libido tanked? What if it’s an undiagnosed hormonal problem? Those can take years to even find never mind fix. My point is, outside of the honeymoon period, dry spells happen. To everyone. For a myriad of reasons. If you can’t handle that, you can’t handle marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:15 PM
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1-2 months? Are you fucking kidding me? In a marriage, that’s a blink of an eye, and there’s any number of reasons that could happen. Women can’t have sex for at least 6 weeks after having a baby. It’s very common in my home country for men to leave for months at a time to work in the oil fields, should their wives be sleeping around while they are gone? How about military spouses? What if your spouse gets cancer and is suffering thru treatment and can’t have sex for 6 months or longer? If the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:06 PM
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I am. But I had a ten year marriage and lots of dating experience when I was younger. Now I enjoy the simplicity of being single with no kids. I manage by having very good friends, 2 cats and a chihuahua that is my 24/7 companion. My life is uncomplicated and stress free in a way it’s never been before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:58 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. And there’s a good chance she would have preferred to bury the whole thing and forget it. But people likely started asking her what happened when he started acting different. Pretty hard to hide something like that at work. So the “shittalking” was probably a case of someone asking why this guy was acting weird and or hostile. And her, being put on the spot, telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:53 PM
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Nor is he entitled to mine. But since we value each other as real people we make it work. That’s what people do when they really care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:30 PM
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I’m with you. My closest friend is an ex. We have an invaluable connection, but we don’t work as a couple. Neither of us was willing to give up everything we had because we couldn’t date anymore. We took a break for a few months, let our hearts heal and rebuilt our friendship stronger than ever. I have more than a few friends who have been my friends waaay longer than I was married (10.5 years). There’s a better chance a friendship will last a lifetime than a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:05 PM
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So I’m still hearing that this about you without any consideration for her. No one wants a selfish partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:04 PM
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It’s like your failing to understand that real friendship is it’s own thing. It involves hugs, talking, and doing activities together. What changes if you make it relationship? The sex. And you are willing to sacrifice all things you already had (the stuff women value) to have sex (cause that’s what you value). That’s the problem. I really don’t know how to make it clearer. It demonstrates a clear lack of character and makes a person feel like you don’t value them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:02 PM
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Number 1 rule of dating. Don’t shit where you eat. Coworkers and friends are off limits. Millions of people find relationships despite this. Most people who find someone they find attractive shoot their shot early on in the friendship, like within weeks of meeting. Making it clear from the start what they want from that relationship. Waiting months/years is deceptive. Your forming a friendship on false pretences and that makes you a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:57 PM
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Women value friendships for what they are. We have emotional attachments to our friends. Those grow based on an assumption that your friend likes you for who you are. Not for what you can do for them. If you have friend who will only be your friend if he can borrow money off you all the time and rejects you as a person when you say no, that’s not a real friend, and it’s gonna hurt and you will feel betrayed. If a woman has friend who will only be her friend if she has sex with him and he will re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:39 PM
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So you know if you get rejected you can’t stay friends, but you value the friendship so little that you shoot your shot anyways. Wow, it’s sure puzzling why a woman would reject you when you just demonstrated that her friendship means less to you than your dick does. S/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:31 PM
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It started going downhill at our clubs about 5 years ago. All of a sudden we had masses of single men showing up. I think the word had gotten out that they had a shot in the kink world. They destroyed our clubs and our chat rooms. We used to have a balanced ratio but they all turned into sausage parties cause the women noped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:57 PM
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50?! 😂😂😂. Going by his attitude I figured late teens
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:49 PM
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I’m 42 and I had to leave the kink world because what she said is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:41 PM
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It’s consensual non consent. Aka. Rape role play.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:34 PM
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Do you hear yourself? Women can only be my friend if they are willing to fuck me. But I care about them. But men can be my friend without the sex cause I actually like them. You don’t like or care about these women. You want to fuck them and are mad cause you can’t. Why? You laid it out. Your selfish. You care about you more. I’d be willing to bet you don’t have many male friends either with that attitude. My friends, male and female, are my friends because I like them and enjoy spending time wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:47 PM
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And then they immediately stop doing things for their friend cause she won’t fuck him? Wow. Incredible mental gymnastics to say you care about that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:42 PM
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So let’s turn this around. Cause you think it’s about being unattractive and it’s not. You have a male friend. You guys hang out all the time. You tell him everything cause he’s your friend. Sometime after this relationship is established, he reveals that he’s gay and just wanted to fuck you the whole time. He doesn’t actually give a shit about you. How do you feel? Cause that’s how women feel when someone they thought was their friend pulls that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:29 PM
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Oh yay. Another off topic essay. Were we talking about 46 year olds and 30 year olds? No we acknowledged in multiple comments that in the older age groups, that age gap is not the same thing. We were talking about 30-35 year olds with 19 year olds who haven’t left home, finished school or started their careers. And it’s interesting to note that your marriage which likely started when you were over 30 and she was likely under 25 didn’t work out. Hmm, I wonder why that was? But hey, thanks for chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:25 PM
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42f. I’m comfortable with 10 years older to 5 years younger. Puts us in roughly the same life stage. I’ve dated even younger but there was a noticeable maturity gap. That being said, anyone basically 35-50 is in roughly the same life stage, Career established, typically already have kids or don’t want them. I don’t see much issue with age gaps at this stage of the game. What bothers me, is men over 30 chasing women under 25. A man over 30 typically will have a career established, his own home an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:20 PM
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Thanks, appreciate you pointing out the obvious for him. I love that he wrote us a whole essay about the wrong topic 😂 I’m a 42 year old female. I’ve dated a dude a ten years younger than me. It’s a completely different ballgame at this age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:41 AM
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You start seeing this in early to mid thirties when the myth that older man = success gets busted. The disappointment crushes them and the shell starts to form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:58 PM
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The men who truly believe they want women 10-15 years younger than them, care about one thing only. Sex with hot women at any cost. Which is a strong trait in young men or men who never grew up. By the time a man hits his thirties and is moderately successful, he’s not going to want to spend all his time off shopping and going to clubs and parties. A 19 year old woman is going to exhaust him and make him miserable. By that age most men realize that. They start looking for women their age who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:50 PM
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They aren’t going to give preference on sex. Immigration is about filling jobs. You know what Canada desperately needs? Construction workers. Are we gonna let a bunch of women in that can’t fill those roles or are we gonna give preference to young single men that can? Edit to add. The government cares about the economy. They give zero craps about you personally or the dating market in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:56 PM
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That seems fairly unlikely. That would mean tons of single women immigrating without family or spousal support. Women are more risk adverse than men and less likely to do that. Social networks are more important to us. Women immigrating would typically do so as a couple or a family. A country that tried to deny single male immigrants would find itself at a distinct disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:48 PM
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That’s exactly the point. A lot of men chase “hot” with no consideration for whether or not they are compatible. Then don’t understand why it all went sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:37 PM
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Sex matters. But you can’t only worry about sex when seeking a long term relationship. Libidos can come and go through out the years. If there’s nothing but lust in the relationship, the first dry spell will kill it. Also, someone who was previously attractive can become very unattractive if the personalities aren’t compatible. Imagine this. Slightly overweight dude, loves to stay home and game, watch movies, eat junk. He gets a hot woman, she’s fit, pretty and active, wants to be out shopping o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:31 PM
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Young people and men tend to see love as a something exciting that gives you “tingles”. That’s actually lust. It’s strong in the beginning and dies out, regardless of how attractive the person is. Real love is when you would do anything for someone and they do would do anything for you, without expecting anything in return. That’s the one that lasts and builds strong relationship foundations. Marriage is not actually about sex, even tho sex is part of it. It’s about partnership. That’s why this …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:07 PM
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They are inflicting huge damage on both sexes in those areas. It’s directly impacting women obviously. But it indirectly impacts men when women remove themselves from the dating pool as a result of those behaviours. There are far more men in the dating pool then there are women. The more women remove themselves due to trauma, the smaller that pool gets, aggravating the already significant imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:35 PM
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K. But if he has a good career in the west, and he abandons it to go chase love in Thailand, how’s he paying for the apartment? Is he waiting till he retires and has money stocked up? Or is he trying to do it while he’s young and still needs to work? Practical realities take precedence over romantic love. Remote work is great if you can get it, but employers hate it so that’s not that easy. There’s some jobs you could do it, there’s way more where you couldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:04 PM
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Ok. But that doesn’t make the financial/practical realities of living overseas disappear. Once you actually have to pay bills and buy your own food, romantic love is gonna be pretty low on your priorities list.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:45 PM
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That’s your dating pool shrinking. That’s the point. Less women dating, at all ages. A 25 year old woman leaving directly shrinks your dating pool. A 40 year old woman leaving indirectly shrinks your pool because that means more older men chasing younger women cause their dating pool is shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:39 PM
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Canada doesn’t. They try to collect but it very rarely gets paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:35 PM
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That’s the US. Canada is totally different. Our housing is batshit crazy. So is almost everything else and our taxes are way higher to boot. Look it up if ya don’t believe me. I live in a very small 1 bed apartment in the suburbs of Calgary for $1500 a month and that’s downright reasonable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:45 AM
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Personality and proximity, and a little bit of being good looking. Women got to know you in non threatening social situations. Also, you mentioned being autistic. High functioning autistics were treated like normal people back in our time. It was usually undiagnosed. You sucked it up and learned to deal with the world or you got left behind. So you HAD to learn to function in normal society. These guys had every possible accommodation made for them when they were young and in school. Now they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:36 AM
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No they really can’t. Run the numbers. Average rent for a basic ass apartment in Canada is almost $2000. Higher in the cities (where the jobs are) lower rural. Average home price is over $700,000. Over a million in the big cities. Daycare runs an average of $1000 a month per kid conservatively. Your out $3000 with one kid before any bills get paid, or anyone eats. You still have to pay utilities, car payment, insurance (car, house, life), internet, cell phones, FOOD, clothes. The list goes on. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:25 AM
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I know a ridiculous amount about the differences. I was a young mom (16 when I had my daughter) so I relate well to my kids, and they spare me inappropriate details, but yeah, I know roughly what’s going on. My daughter (26) is about ready to throw in the towel and quit cause it sucks and she doesn’t want kids anyways. My son (18) is struggling hard and still a virgin. He’s an overweight gamer. If he doesn’t change, he’s screwed. But my most surprising resource is my very good friend who is a 33…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:43 AM
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Bang on. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:55 AM
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LTRs get harder as ya get older and more set in your ways. I think at this stage in the game, it’s the kinda thing that does just happen when your least expecting it. Trying to seek it out in apps or whatever is just gonna turn ya bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:04 AM
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I can’t change your mind if that’s what you to believe. But things like daycare (or lost income), appropriate housing, food and clothes aren’t optional. And sure you can cut out extra curriculars, but that sucks for the kid. You can not save up for education, but you are preemptively screwing them over for life. So yes people should consider what kind of life they can provide for their children before they have them. Will young dumb people still do it? Probably. But people with common sense are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:51 PM
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Oh I know that lol. I just got fed up with the whole thing and decided to take a break from it all. But then have not felt the desire to end the break. I actually found dating itself was a huge stress, you don’t realize till ya stop trying. Im a year and half in, im not seeing my status change anytime soon. I have a couple decently attractive guys I could bang tomorrow if I wanted, I just don’t think “the juice is worth the squeeze” to borrow a phrase from RPs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:39 PM
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Take that up with your government. They are gonna keep supporting anyone who will have kids so our population doesn’t completely collapse. They can’t do shit about the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:50 PM
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Hard to say for sure. But i suspect if I was raised in this time, where marriage and kids aren’t expected, my life would have taken a different path. For as long as I can remember I was told that someday I would marry and have children. Wasn’t even a question. My kids were raised with the message, do what makes you happy. If that’s marriage and kids, great, if it’s not, also great. Acceptance of alternate lifestyles is a great part of our current culture. People aren’t forced into niches that mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:15 PM
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You are either very young or not living in a western country. Here’s an article to start you on your way to learning reality. https://www.moneywehave.com/the-cost-of-raising-a-child-in-canada/#:~:text=Most%20estimates%20for%20the%20cost,age%20of%2018%20in%20Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:54 PM
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He didn’t ban it. He made some loosey goosey rules around it that are very easy to dodge. His half assed measure had absolutely no real effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:17 PM
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Going back to diapers and potty training was the worst part for me. And my second was a boy so he did not potty train easily
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:14 PM
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It’s a complicated issue with many components. But your right about foreign investment being a big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:10 PM
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That’s a myth you tell yourselves to make yourselves feel better. Women have many reasons for leaving bad marriages. And no one does it on a whim if there’s children involved cause it’s damaging to them. Alimony is very rarely awarded anymore since most couples are both working and child support is a pittance on what it actually costs to raise a child and rarely gets paid anyways. The mother is often spending money in court to force the father to pay and that can end up costing more than the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:08 PM
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It’s the men that would be leaving the gene pool. If the women are doing artificial insemination or ONS to get pregnant, they are gonna choose top sperm donors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:59 PM
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A big age gap is tough too. I had seven years between mine. They get along, but raising them was two totally different experiences. I was young and way less stressed out with the first. By the time the second came I was burnt out and overstressed. My ex and I both worked decent full time jobs (made around $100k a year combined back then). And we still had to have a side hustle on top of that to buy a house in 2013. In Calgary, in one of the worst parts of town. It was brutal for us and it’s gonn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:44 PM
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If that works for you, that’s great. But it’s not gonna work for the “average” dude. If your going to tell young (high school/college age) men that, you should def talk to them about what it actually takes to do it. I think the passport bro movement is giving a lot of guys this idea that it’s simple. It’s a thing that may work for SOME but it won’t work for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:38 PM
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I love how guys try to make that sound so easy. Like, your gonna build a career in the west to get money rolling, assuming you can do that while the economy is in the shitter, which it definitely is. Then completely abandon your career in the west, and go start over in another country. Unless you make really good money, that’s not actually a reality. And remote work? Employers fucking hate remote work, those jobs are in high demand cause they are hard to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:21 PM
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Lots of people do dumb shit. But reasonable people who consider the consequences of their decisions, actually do sit down and work out their budgets before they have kids. And right now, budgets are squeezed so tight here that people can’t stretch them to afford bigger homes, daycare bills, extra food, etc etc. that shits all really really expensive. I’ve lost count of how many times times I’ve heard or seen a millennial/Gen z saying they would like to have kids but they simply can’t afford it 🤷…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:13 PM
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We pay more than 50% of our take home incomes in housing cost. Food, fuel, electricity, communications are hideously expensive. There’s a severe lack of jobs paying an actual living wage. Non homeowners are being priced out of even being able to rent. People with good full time jobs are living in tents and vans. Schools and healthcare are massively overwhelmed. People in their 30s with college degrees and full time jobs are living with their parents or stacked in apartments with roommates. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:03 PM
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That may be the point for you, and many others. But as I stated in an earlier comment, here, in Canada, millennials and gen z can’t have kids because they can’t afford it. Some will do it anyways, but a significant portion of the young population here, doesn’t plan to have kids. So dating for them is about having fun, enjoying life, and maybe finding a good life partner to help with expenses. Which ironically, is very similar to how dating works for older people as well. Did you think we all sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:55 PM
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I feel ya. I’m not getting grandkids cause my kids can’t afford it and we are concerned what life would be like for them if it’s this bad now. Best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:16 PM
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If a woman really wants kids but doesn’t find a man she’s willing to live with, she will still have the kids. Women are pretty adaptable that way. Especially when they see that so many women end up single mothers anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:35 PM
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This was posted ten days ago. The body has been deleted but the title is self explanatory. https://www.reddit.com/r/toRANTo/comments/157xxxi/my_dream_is_crushed_and_im_moving_back_to_my_home/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:20 PM
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Can’t blame you for that decision 🤷‍♀️. I enjoy the single life myself, it’s simpler.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:17 PM
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A lot are. There’s tons of articles in the news about it. Immigrants are getting pissed off and going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:17 PM
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That’s actually happening in Canada. Gen x(my generation) had less kids cause we couldn’t afford it. Millennials and gen z are so damn broke they can’t afford kids at all. So our government is lying to potential immigrants about how great it is here and bringing in over a million people a year to suffer along with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:44 PM
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Which they will do and not just femcels. I’m an average, overweight (not obese) 42 year old woman. My marriage was a disaster, dating post divorce was horrible, my kids are young adults, don’t need more, I make good money, support myself. And women enjoy sex, but don’t have the same high sex drive men do, we manage just fine without it. So I opted out. If I was young now, there’s a good chance I would have never bothered. Society was different when I was 20 and woman were expected to get married…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:29 PM
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Nitpicking on comments and derailing the topic is what triggered your rant. Was the point of my comment race? No the point was a guy with nothing going for him shooting for women way out of his league. And race is absolutely a factor in the dating world in Canada and the US. Trying to pretend it isn’t is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:23 PM
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On reddit, ya gotta be clear or the entire topic gets derailed cause you were “racist”. People love to nitpick comments for something to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:57 PM
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I can’t speak for USA specifically, cause I’m Canadian, but obviously similar. I’m not gonna say all or most. But I am gonna say there is a subset of men who truly believe that they should get a hot woman despite their obvious shortcomings. My best friend is an over 30, fat, brown, broke dude. He’s chasing super hot white women in their early twenties and refusing to date anyone actually on his level. He’s actually a really great guy who could be a good boyfriend, but he’s gotta drop his standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:24 PM
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All women were young back then? I’m pretty sure older women have always existed 🙄 Young women tended to be thin more often in that time, due to the lack of processed food. But they also weren’t allowed to wear makeup or revealing clothes, so they would not be considered attractive by todays standards. They had strict rules and curfews to abide by. Young men had to face her father if he wanted to take her out on date. The man was definitely paying. I’m pretty sure dating wasn’t really any easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:19 PM
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You hit the nail on the head with this. only noticing pretty girls is a trap I swear 90% of these dudes are caught in. They think Emma Watson is “mid” or “average”, when reality is she’s a top teir woman. Until these guys start realizing that “average” is actually their moms, aunties and cousins and not a less attractive movie star, they are screwing themselves. Edit, spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:57 PM
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It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that a super hot woman on tinder is a bot or an escort. Super hot real women aren’t gonna be on the apps cause they get plenty of attention/dates irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:19 PM
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He’s broke as shit cause he’s paying for sugar babies, whether he’s aware of it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 11:24 PM
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Here in Canada they passed MaiD. (Medical assistance in dying) that should clear up the pesky aging problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:06 PM
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My best friend is my ex boyfriend. Reason? He is incapable of having sex with someone he loves and respects. It’s not cute or sweet. It’s a very serious issue that will impact the rest of his life if he doesn’t seek therapy to deal with it. He absolutely adores his mom, his sister and me. Would do anything for us. He would be a great partner if he could deal with that disconnect. If he doesn’t, he’s doomed, he will never be able to have healthy happy sexual relationship. Edit to add: I forgot to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:36 PM
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Dude, your asking a bunch of basement dwellers about a water diet. The only diet they know is the Cheeto diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:39 PM
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I’m sure there are those who are genuinely going their own way in both sexes. But they aren’t online talking about it because they genuinely don’t care anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:36 PM
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Its not about hard and fast numbers. A 20 year old who is just barely out of school and is still living with parents, is learning. She doesn’t really have a clue yet. A 30 year old with a full time job and his own place is at a completely different place in his life. One that puts him at significant advantage. Take those same 2 people at 30 and 40 and no one gives a shit cause they both have life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:24 PM
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Women are constantly shamed for eating “all kinds of food” in this sub. Land whale is a pretty common term on this sub. Nice try tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:55 PM
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No flatearthers for me, but lots of RPs. I imagine it’s pretty much the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:22 PM
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100% man bots get made too. No business is gonna pass up the money that comes with that. Women are already choosing single over dating. Why wouldn’t we buy a bot that can help around the house and have sex with us the way we want? Your revenge fantasy would completely backfire here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:20 PM
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Yes, but those women aren’t the super hot insta thots that these guys want to sleep with. They aren’t wearing revealing clothes and ten pounds of makeup to go to the club. They are at home in sweatpants reading a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:29 PM
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Women aren’t lying to have sex. They don’t need to. It’s not the wanting sex that’s a problem. It’s the lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:40 PM
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They have the choice to do that. But there’s consequences. Namely, the huge numbers of women opting out of the dating market once they have had enough of the crap. So if you guys choose to continue the cycle, you can fully expect the dating market will be tiny by the time your 40. You think the dry spells suck now? Just wait till your older and there’s no women in your dating pool. Dry spells might last decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:30 AM
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Juggling multiple women by means of deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:25 AM
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To improve the situation the first question to be answered is this. “Why are women opting out?”. Until you answer this you’re just spinning in circles. The answer by the way, for many of us, is this: Men lie to get sex. The redpill encourages “spinning plates”. Which is the exact problem. So, you guys are actually just making the problem worse. Source, voluntarily celibate woman. Tired of the lies, better to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 05:24 PM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/9436368/public-transit-safety-canada-ttc-mental-health/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:50 PM
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Unfortunately, this is incorrect. Our country is experiencing a massive increase in random violence, particularly on our transit systems, all down to homeless junkies. There’s several stabbings a week. There is an increasing amount of violence coming from this demographic post covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:29 PM
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? I didn’t say women date down. I said dating ON YOUR LEVEL is not hypergamy. Dating up is hypergamy. It’s a very simple concept. Most women date on their level. That’s not hypergamous. A minority of women date down (that’s the group you seem to want to be bigger), a minority date up (hypergamy). Those are called outliers. I can’t dumb this down anymore. Sorry if you still can’t understand the difference between hypergamy and women dating on their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:39 AM
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You just stated that in order for it to NOT be hypergamy women would need to date under their height and under their income. That’s some impressive mental gymnastics that the only way it’s not hypergamy is if they date down. The definition of hypergamy is dating up, dating on your level isn’t hypergamy 🙄 Dating down is just dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:43 PM
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So it’s still hypergamy if she marries someone her height and income? That’s moving goalposts. Hypergamy is dating up. Your defining it as “not dating down”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:26 PM
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Maybe some of the very young do. Adults go where the jobs are. No one’s abandoning a good job in a city to go live in small town on welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:23 PM
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It’s not that all women are the same. It’s that the men who are complaining are focused on certain types of women (pretty, young, party girl types for casual sex, pretty, young virgins for realationships) The rest of the women simply don’t exist in their minds. So their experiences lead them to believe all women are the same because they only focus on one or two types.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:14 PM
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Are people choosing to immigrate massively to those cities? No they aren’t. The only province that had a positive interprovincial immigration rate last year was Alberta, with a gain of more than 10,000. Every other province lost people. It’s no secret that the majority of those people went to Calgary not Edmonton. Calgary is the one seeing massive increases in rent and a ridiculously high unemployment rate because so many people are moving here. “Best” city is about more than size. It’s the city…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:25 PM
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We only have a few good size cities here. After Toronto and Vancouver the next best is Calgary and it’s getting exceedingly unaffordable as well because of all the people who have been priced out of Toronto and van. It’s expensive to live here and social benefits don’t even cover rent anymore. In Canada, you work or you starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:48 PM
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I chose to focus on the male side because this sub focuses on the male side mostly. There are some young women who are like that I’m sure. But my experience with the young women I know (my daughter, 26, and her friends), doesn’t align with that. They are dating and getting into relationships and getting married to very average young men. They however, are not IG model, party girl types. Of course the young men they are choosing are also fairly well grounded and choosing to date these average loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:14 PM
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42, f, divorced with adult kids. My theory on what’s happening here is that the majority of the people here are from the “participation trophy” generations here and that’s causing huge issues. These generations were raised by helicopter, snow plow and tiger parents. They were told they could do/be/have whatever they want. Their parents and teachers removed obstacles and challenges so they don’t know how to earn those things. So now we have two generations of adults who believe they are entitled …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:55 PM
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My thoughts on that are that outside of Toronto, most people who live in cities here, also spend a lot of time in the country. I’m third generation calgarian, my kids are 4th. I’ve lived here my whole life. But I can camp, hunt and fish just like any rural raised girl. That’s pretty normal here. I don’t believe it’s the same thing for people raised in cities in the states (other than maybe Alaska?) And those things do build masculinity and survival skills. So American men do seem fairly feminine…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:32 PM
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Possibly. But relationship dynamics are def different here. Women rule the roost. The guys who advocate for going to Asia, want submissive women. Also, Canadian women are used to fairly masculine men. They also hunt, fish, camp, etc. citified American men aren’t going to be able to keep up. A Canadian woman wouldn’t choose to be with someone like that. They would likely only end up with a stronger rural American man, which isn’t really the type that’s advocating to go to Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:27 PM
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Canadian woman here. We are far from being submissive. These guys want a woman who will do what she’s told when she’s told, that’s not a Canadian woman. I make solid money, im strong enough to dig my car out of a snowbank on my own. I’ve been hiking and camping many times in my life, with many animal encounters. If a bear doesn’t scare me, a man isn’t going to, he can get his own damn beer and make his own damn sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:15 PM
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I think as Canadians we are more tolerant of the little things like height and race. I see the same things you do. Maybe it’s cause we all look the same in a parka and a toque?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:07 PM
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Sometimes it’s the only advice that can be given. If someone isn’t interacting with people on a social level at all, then they won’t be able to date. All other advice is useless till they learn to socialize. So it’s a case of, you’re not wrong, but learning how to socialize is the only option. It’s a struggle, I would suggest in the scenario you described that the individual should seek therapy to help build social skills and possibly a support group to learn how to spend time with people, rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:50 PM
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Hell no. Getting along with my animals is a must. I’d never get rid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:50 AM
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Dogs are a natural ice breaker, I have the tiniest dog (4 pounds full grown). So absolutely every kind of people, kids, adults, old people, women and men will stop me to ask questions about her, especially at the dog park if they also have dogs. Dog people love to talk about their dogs, especially with other dog people. If one of those people is a guy I’m interested in and his dog gets along with my dog, ya never know what might happen 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:28 PM
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Young men view sex as the most important part of a relationship. Full stop. Women view all the stuff you just removed from the equation as being more important than sex. Longterm relationships are about having a partner, someone to share life’s joys with, and someone to stand by your side in the difficult times. Sex is just sex. It’s part of a healthy romantic relationship, but can be obtained in other ways ( casual sex, prostitution, masturbation). A life partner cannot be achieved in any way o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:56 PM
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Do you really think single women are immigrating en masse?? Lmao. I live in a high immigration area. Theres tons of single men, I’m over 40 and overweight, but I turn down advances from immigrant men ten years my junior pretty regularly. All the young women I see have boyfriends and husbands with them. They aren’t leaving their families and everything they know to go live in a new country all by themselves. There might be outliers but what you wrote was pure revenge fantasy 🤣. Reality is, it’s m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:40 PM
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That’s a lot of words to say exactly what I just said. We aren’t having sex with unattractive men, we aren’t making babies who would have a miserable quality of life based on climate change and overpopulation. And we are contributing by working which gives us the power to make those choices. Your absolutely right that there needs to be suffering to correct the situation. Guess what? That’s you. It seems like your just bitter cause in this environment you can’t compete for women and you can’t com…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:06 PM
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How are women reluctant to contribute to society. Other than refusing to have sex with men they find unappealing solely for the purpose of reproducing? I def wanna see your mental gymnastics on this. You just openly stated that women are taking men’s opportunities, so it sounds to me like they are contributing, just not in the way YOU want them to. Ps. Def not a climate change denier, and I am a firm believer in overpopulation being an issue right now. Don’t project.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:45 PM
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It’s that bitterness and anger that makes them do that. They want to bring your down to their level. It’s horrible to go thru and takes ages to rebuild your self esteem after.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:43 PM
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Doesn’t mean we will give them a chance. “Chad” has always been a hard pass for me. I knew his game. Now I won’t date at all cause I’ve seen so many men of all types try the same shit. I’m obviously not alone in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:33 PM
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Exactly my experience. It’s not chad. It’s every type of man you can imagine. They all try. I won’t date at all anymore cause the times have passed when you could assume that chad was to be avoided but average guys were a safe bet. They are just as risky but with an extra dose of bitterness and anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:31 PM
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Populations go in cycles. This is NOT the first time there has been a gender imbalance. It makes things harder but how you deal with it is on you. Getting mad at women for something out of their control is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:27 PM
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It’s also detrimental. A personality change is rarely permanent. So if a dude changes his personality to get a girl, then goes back to being himself, which is not someone she wants, the relationship ends. You do have to “be yourself” to find a relationship that will actually work longterm. Ex. Guy pretends to love going to clubs and bars even tho he hates it. Gets a girl that loves clubs and bars. They get in a relationship, he doesn’t feel the need to continue doing something he hates and she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:42 PM
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I love this so much. First time I’ve seen someone say this in this sub and it’s so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:34 PM
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It gets better with time and experience, but this is why age gap relationships are so frowned upon. A woman might be legally an adult but at 18, she doesn’t know shit about shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:30 PM
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1 isn’t new. Older men have been taking younger women forever. Men need resources which take time to build. Women need beauty which reduces with time. There’s never really been a time in history where women would have been dating younger men with no resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:21 PM
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Common interests isn’t so much about liking absolutely everything they do. But there has to be some basic intersection on lifestyle. A couch potato gamer can’t get with a person who hits the gym every day, and goes hiking, biking and camping every weekend. Their lifestyles are completely incompatible. Two hikers would be great, even if she’s into makeup and girly shit and he’s into cars. They will still be able to spend time hiking together, they just might do it with less conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:59 PM
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It’s not tho. Social circles were entirely different back then. No one wanted to stay home when we had no streaming services, minimal tv options, crappy video games and no social media. Everyone was out most nights of the week. A casual gathering had 15-20 people on a average, fairy equal mix of men and women, constantly shifting individuals. One person would bring their cousin that was in town, or a new friend or coworker, so there were always new people. Add alcohol into that mix and you bet p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:51 PM
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I’ve wondered about the intensity of these crushes myself. Seems like something I’d expect from someone much much younger, not a grown ass man in his 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:32 AM
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Regardless of whether she’s chubby or fat, it’s on the line and presumably I’m more generous than you, he’s not on the line between the two, he’s fat. Which makes the chubby girl at the very least, his level. Edit spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:31 AM
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The reason that example popped into my mind immediately is because this very same guy has dropped more than a few pill comments over the years. He wouldn’t openly admit to being pilled, but the only reason I know pills exist, is him. I found this sub because a post popped up on my feed and it immediately reminded me of him. Following the sub for the last couple months has absolutely firmed my belief that he is in fact a follower of the pills on some level. Reading the posts and comments from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:02 PM
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This post hit home. I’m watching a good friend struggle enormously with this very thing and have no idea how to help him. (Open to suggestions) He’s over 30, brown (doesn’t bother me, but it’s a big deal to a lot of other women in my country). He has a low paid job with terrible shifts (his only day off is dead centre of the week). He’s broke and in a lot of debt. Lives in an illegal basement suite and drives a 15 year old car, that he still owes me money for, cause his last 15 year old car died…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:40 PM
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Not to the extreme they think it happens. But yeah, we are always watching how he behaves in different environments. Men do it to, if a woman is a bitch to the waitress she probably won’t get a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:18 AM
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It 100% matters. If someone treats everyone else badly, they will treat you badly too. That’s why women do so much of the “shit testing” you all get so mad about. We want to know what he’s really like, not just the mask he puts on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:11 PM
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At what point did I say USA? Oh sorry, you must be one of those arrogant Americans who forgets there’s two other countries in North America eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:53 AM
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Two of your examples are frequently eliminated from women’s dating options. Military men and doctors have certain reputations and women have a tendency to avoid them, no matter how good looking. Just an FYI for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:37 PM
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My apologies. I was off in the exact math, I trusted someone else’s numbers. Just ran my own. There are 307,257,554 women in North America. 21,560,000 are between the ages of 20-29. 42% of them are overweight or obese. Source, google search North American population statistics, not hard to do, you can even do it yourself if you don’t trust my numbers!!! When you break out the math there, it’s 4.06% of the female population in North America who are young and fit. So great news guys, you don’t hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:50 PM
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It is just basic social skills. An art form that has been lost due to social media. Now we have a generation who doesn’t know how to have regular conversations with people. And those regular conversations are how you meet people. You don’t have to be attractive to have them, you just have to be human. Talk to your neighbors, talk to people in the grocery store, the dog park, literally anywhere you exist. Keep practicing. Then when you see a girl that’s cute, you can have a convo with her, just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:45 PM
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My point is that I don’t live in some rich white suburb allowing only men of a certain demographic the opportunity to have conversations with me as the other commenter tried to imply. I live in a neighborhood that is multi cultural and populated by mostly people who can’t afford to live in established neighborhoods in my city. Instead we live in an experimental suburb that has been built massively above standard density levels with significantly lower building standards then we have ever allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:34 PM
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And it makes perfect sense to filter people that way? We live in the same area, have similar life experiences, eat similar foods, enjoy dogs. Those are the opportunities men have to approach me. There’s a right and a wrong way to go about it. I explained the difference between the two very clearly. So your trying to imply hypergamy where there is none.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:43 AM
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My apartment building elevator and the grocery stores are examples. And solid ones cause I’m in that elevator 4 times a day minimum. I’m at the grocery store 2-3x a week. I work from home, so outside of those places I don’t exist to be approached. With the exception of the dog park, but in your eye that’s also screening immediately cause it’s my neighborhood and my dog park right? It wouldn’t just happen to be because that’s where I am? Here’s a couple facts for you, I live in a country with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:47 AM
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Make eye contact, smile. Position yourself slightly closer to her. Slightly!!! (think 3-4 feet instead of the new post covid norm of 6 feet) reach for a melon, briefly bringing yourself into the 2 foot zone, but don’t stay there!! There’s more but they are subtle and learned with time, but that should give some starter points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:58 PM
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I get what your saying, I think your exactly right on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:52 PM
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I’m older, I spend waaay more time in a grocery store than a club lol, I hear ya tho, your approach is bang on. Use visual indicators in any situation to try to start a convo that isn’t based on her appearance. Pretty girls know they are pretty, they get told at least ten times a day. It’s boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:16 PM
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He said it, 1/500 were successful. So for men with low self esteem who are scared to approach he’s advising them to hit on 500 women out of their league. 499 will shame, demean and and humiliate them, but it’s worth it cause if they persevere, the 500th might be so desperate and vulnerable she may have pity sex with him. Bearing in mind we are talking about men with low self esteem who can barely handle 1 negative reaction, nevermind 499 and would likely kill themselves before the 100th rejectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:11 PM
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Excellent point about engaging. If I’m not interested I’m polite and answer questions but avoid eye contact and don’t ask questions. If I’m interested, I’m gonna check him out and ask him a few questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:57 PM
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I can’t find the thread now, I’m sorry. It may have been deleted. The reason age is relevant here, is because the massive age range those women have to choose from, means their dating pool is significantly larger than anyone elses. Let’s break it down. First, remove the gold diggers, they will marry a 60 year old for money, they are rare, but still remove a percentage of those available 2% of women. Next, the top women in that group, they are going to marry the top men in that group, so on and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:54 PM
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So how should they learn it? By making inappropriate sexual comments to women out of their league who will then shame and demean them? Or by having actual conversations with average women and practicing body language and eye contact until they figure out what gets women to respond? Your way is going to end with a ton of traumatized virgin men. My way gives them a fighting chance, although it takes time and effort, cause anything worth pursuing always takes time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:19 PM
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Logic skipped a few generations. We might reach one or two that genuinely wants help. That’s my hope. But tbh, most of these guys are so stuck in their delusions, a 24 yr old perfect 10 could give them an exact list of how to date her and they would tell her she’s wrong 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:13 PM
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The old guy hoarding six women is looking out for their best interests? I very much doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:58 PM
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That’s where eye contact and body language come in. I knew those men were flirting, they made it obvious without needing to directly say it. The reason the guy waits three or four times before speaking is to get an idea of her schedule, if he’s leaving around that time anyways, he can tweak his schedule by two mins to be there regularly. If he’s smart he won’t do it everyday, but maybe 2-3 times a week for a couple weeks? That’s long enough to get a rapport going and gauge interest. Edit spellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:55 PM
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In the interactions I described, I obviously knew they were flirting because of eye contact and body language. An interaction doesn’t have to be blatantly sexual for a woman to understand the intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:52 PM
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So the young men should be listening to the single 50 year old who is the direct reason pretty women get so fed up with constantly being hit on by inappropriate men that they now shame them online? You are the reason why these men are so scared to approach at all and have actually NO CHANCE if they don’t find a way that’s non invasive. But sure. Let them listen to you, a guy who doesn’t understand that women are staying single and refusing ALL men as a direct result of the behaviour you just adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:50 PM
1

My exact thoughts, pretty much word for word. Media/social media has conditioned them to honestly believe that some 80% of us don’t even exist!!! If they had to rate me, judging by the ratings I see on here, I’d get like a negative 10. Im over 40, overweight, and very average looking. But that’s so completely unrealistic, I have far more dating options then they seem to. I’m rarely single unless I genuinely want to be, and the men I date aren’t horribly disfigured. They are very average, sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:41 PM
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Your completely missing the point. Sexualized, rushed cold approaches have far less chance of success than say, asking, and genuinely BEING curious about her book. That would indicate an interest in common and may make her more receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:43 PM
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In that context. Possibly. Ive had guys strike many a convo over my tattoos. If they have tattoos and it’s in that context, it’s less off putting. But I’m still aware that he’s sexualizing my tattoos. Edit spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:38 PM
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No cause it’s a sexualized comment. You just indicated that you approached her cause you were checking out her body. Compliments on any aspect of a woman’s appearance is the worst approach. With exception of maybe complimenting her handbag?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:29 PM
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A 4 would be generous in this forum. Did you see the post the other day where they were rating a young, thin, cute girl between 2 and 4 because she had bad hair and clothes? Like seriously?? Young, thin, cute is less than 2% of the female population in North America and most dudes from 18 to 65 are chasing them. Married or not. It’s pure fucking delusion at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:29 PM
1

Exactly. I’ve dated both and those were my experiences. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:18 PM
2

Lessons learned with time. Super attractive/rich dudes can be pretty shitty people. They don’t tend to treat others well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:59 PM
1

Haha, I wouldn’t date a 6’2 dude or a dr or special forces, ever again. Experience taught me they can be shittiest people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:58 PM
1

I absolutely would. It always boosts my mood. Height has never been an issue for me, I’m 5’2. I prefer a man closer to my height cause experience has taught me a significant height difference can cause positional issues in the bedroom. That being said, I will and have dated men in range from 5’1 to 6’1. Always figured out any issues that arose. My last boyfriend was 10 years younger than me. I’d be cautious doing it again, because there are generational/cultural gaps that can arise, but I totall…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:04 AM
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They could literally approach anywhere. The “fat” or “ugly” (who are actually just average ) women aren’t being approached 10 times a day like the super pretty ones. So as long as the approach is polite and respectful, they are more likely to be flattered than upset, even if they aren’t interested. Source: I’m a 42 yr, very average, overweight woman. Being approached is like a once a month occurance, if that. so when it does happen, I’m flattered, even if I’m not interested. As long as it’s resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:48 AM
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You can’t get them to see what they are doing wrong. They are absolutely convinced they are deserving of a woman who looks at a minimum like Emma Watson (she’s only average to them, they would much prefer a Scarlett Johannsen). Their rating scales are completely wacked out. Emma Watson is rated consistently on here as a 7 when in reality she’s at least 9. But they rate themselves at least 1-2 points higher then they really are. So these guys are pissed when they approach women that are way out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:25 AM
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It’s a hell of a delicate balancing act. Most people can’t manage it long term. Some, like my friend, can’t even do it short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:32 AM
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No he won’t. He will try, but he will actually be incapable of doing it. I’ve been there. Had great sex with my ex boyfriend until he developed feelings. Once he grew feelings he literally couldn’t anymore. We are best friends now and he treats me better then he ever did when we were sleeping together, because he loves and respects me and it shows. Given our close friendship, I’ve heard him talk about women he does sleep with, and he borderline hates them. It’s sad cause he’s such a great guy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:55 AM
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Gen x logic, thank u, I love it. It seems like the logic gene skipped a couple generations. I can’t believe how many times I’ve wanted to scream reading the comments from these young guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:58 PM
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I didn’t say YOU were. I said those are the themes I see men rallying around on this sub. I’m fully aware that not all men are like that, and it’s great that you arent. Unfortunately, you are a minority here. I had a fair bit of sympathy for mens dating struggles when I first joined. I know young women nowadays are more shallow as a result of social media. I know OLD has made dating significantly more difficult than it used to be. However, I’ve spent months being attacked by men who are “struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:07 PM
2

This is so true lol. From the perspective of an overweight, white, straight, 42 yo woman, I’ve been approached IRL a half dozen times in the last 6 months. The people who approached me? All people who would normally have a much harder time than a straight, born and raised Canadian, and they took their shots anyways. Three young black men who recently immigrated to Canada and two lesbians (one of the lesbians took two shots). I’m not interested in men younger then me and I’m straight, so none of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:42 PM
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It’s hard to have sympathy for someone who chooses in his depths of despair to denigrate women. These are the themes I see these men rallying around I won’t date a fat a woman, they are pieces of shit. (I’m fat, and so are the majority of women past their 20s. if I was sensitive about it, that could drive me to KMS) Women are only good for sex. Spinning plates If the only way to get sex is lie, then I’m gonna get real good at lying Women should show sympathy to men by having sex with their unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:58 PM
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There’s huge subtle pressure on women from a very young age. We are supposed to quiet and sweet and kind. No roughhousing, sports, etc, etc. as we get older we r supposed to always look good. We can’t be fat, thats the worst thing a woman can be, which is BS cause we are supposed to be able to carry extra weight, we are biologically designed for it because we need weight to carry healthy babies. We have to have Nice clothes, makeup, nails, hair. Now we are also supposed to be smart, educated, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:22 PM
2

Technically, we can have it all. Reality, it’s a fucking nightmare, not a dream. I have a great career, had kids (adults now) and a husband. My ex husband was a useless twat who didn’t do anything for himself or the kids. Within ten years I was so burnt out I was forced to take several YEARS off work to regain my physical and mental health. “Have it all” is euphemism for “destroy your health working harder than anyone should ever have to”. I do not recommend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:16 PM
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So all the guys who keep complaining that they are a 7 but can’t get a woman who they think is a 7 maybe need to accept that they aren’t actually 7s? Cause it’s subjective so, if women don’t think those guys are 7s, then they aren’t. They are whatever the market says they are right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 11:57 AM
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It is a spectrum. She’s overweight. She’s not obese. She has a bigger frame, and a rounder face with a few extra pounds. If she was actually obese I would have rated her lower. And yes, older people are generally heavier. But it’s not like people suddenly gain weight in their late 50s. They are gaining weight their whole lives. So there’s a still a huge proportion of women (say, women under 45) in the dating pool that are heavier due to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:33 PM
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Average isn’t about preference, it’s about averages. I see a lot of women in my day to day, most do not look that good. When the majority of the population is overweight, that’s what average is. It’s not what you want it to be 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:14 PM
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I noticed that some are being realistic. But the majority are immediately docking a couple points because she isn’t model thin. A is probably a 7 IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:38 PM
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If I let the men in my life be in charge of finances, I’d be broke af. Long term planning? They couldn’t plan their way out of a paper bag. Both my serious relationships, marriage and LTR dating, were financial morons while I’m trained and have worked 20 years in business admin and accounting. Neither one was capable of making a meal plan a week in advance nevermind a 5 year plan for the family. Your assumptions that men are naturally better at this stuff is incorrect. Some people are planners, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:57 PM
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Wow reading thru the comments confirmed exactly what I thought all along. A lot of guys are straight up delusional. It’s likely down to social media and regular media. When I see things like, “Anna Kendrick is average”, I gotta shake my head. These young men grew up believing that less attractive actresses are average. Reality is, majority of actresses are at least a 7. They wouldn’t be actresses if they weren’t. No one wants to watch a movie with a truly average woman as the star. So the rankin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:15 PM
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I (42f) can’t challenge your view. It’s true. I’ve been married, it was awful. I dated in the late 90s/early 2000s before I married, it was awful. I dated after my marriage, still awful. I’ve been single and celibate for 1.5 years now and couldn’t be happier. Other women in my circle are going the same way for the same reasons. Now that we are no longer financially dependent on men, and don’t even really need them for babies (artificial insemination), they need to adapt and give us reasons to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:43 PM
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I can’t speak for other women. It only bothers me cause of the high rates of STDs in the gay community. So I’d still date guy that was bi, but I’d be much more diligent about STD screening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:58 PM
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I grew up in the eighties. Women had the choice. Technically. But there was immense pressure from friends, family, and media to get married and have kids. Parents especially would be up your ass about it. Nowadays, that’s not the case. There’s still some pressure but not near as much. I grew up being told I would get married and have kids some day, all the time. My kids grew up being told to do what makes them happy. Theirs is the first generation that was actually given that choice and not sham…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:40 PM
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So you guys really like using a term from the 80s that describes the problem of women who lived in a time where marriage and kids were expected and any deviation from that was a source of shame and embarrassment. It doesn’t apply now. Marriage and kids are a choice now NOT a requirement. The wall isn’t really an issue. Times have changed and people can choose if and when they want to get married. 34k is a pretty specific number, are you maybe a little bent cause that’s all you make and it distur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:21 PM
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The wall is a myth created by young men. Young people are pretty universally unable to understand how much better life gets as you get older. Youth, beauty and boundless energy are seen as the best thing ever and the advantages of being older are never noticed. I’m over 40. I’m divorced. My kids are grown. I make good money, and it’s all mine. I do what I want most of the time. I have the freedom, time and money to live how I want. I can doll myself up, put myself out there and I have an excitin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:06 PM
1

Everyone has crap happen to them. I’m talking about day to day treatment. Like say, two women are in a grocery store, one’s pretty, one’s average. They both need help. The pretty one will have three employees (likely male) offering to help. The other one may have to get assertive to get anyone to help her. That stuff happens all the time. Everywhere. Not just in the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:19 PM
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Ignored, treated like crap, or TREATED NICELY UNTIL A GUY GETS WHAT HE WANTS, then treated like crap. Since u seemed to miss that part the first time. There’s no trust left once this happens a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:51 PM
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Yes, but marriage, having kids, and divorce are all tied together. A married couple who both worked and never had kids, wouldn’t see the same discrepancy in the divorce. But significantly more marriages result in kids than not. That’s why the averages work out the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:13 PM
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Only if they have kids and take leave. Single women aren’t as likely to have kids. If they do, there’s a good chance they can’t afford leave. It’s only 55% of your regular pay. So outside of marriage women aren’t having 3 kids and taking 3 years in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:10 PM
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I never said it wasn’t. I said women lose ground in their careers when they stay home with kids. Which is generally a minimum of a year for each baby in my country cause that’s what our government gives for parental leave. 3 kids? Minimum three years off work. Just that will set a woman back significantly in her career. She will lose advancement opportunities or be forced to take them much later than she would have if she had taken no time off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:05 PM
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Are you a woman? I am. Men do not treat average women the same as pretty women. Even other women don’t. Pretty women have always been privileged. That’s why there’s a term for it, “pretty privilege”. It’s easier to be nice when everyone around you will bend over backwards to do whatever you want them to. It’s not so easy to be nice when you have stand up for yourself to be even treated fairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:01 PM
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Because women lose ground in their careers when they stay home with kids, even if it’s only for a few years. That can set a woman back decades in her career. Women don’t profit from divorce. Men just don’t see how much damage is caused by a woman staying home with the kids and get it in their heads they are being divorce raped, when in reality they are only compensating women for the losses they incurred by caring for the family instead of working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:57 PM
5

Pretty women are consistently treated better than others. Average women are not. They are ignored, treated like crap, or treated nicely until a guy gets what he wants then treated like crap. If pretty women had the same experiences, they wouldn’t be as nice either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:43 PM
1

Pretty women are consistently treated better than others. Average women are not. They are ignored, treated like crap, or treated nicely until a guy gets what he wants then treated like crap. If pretty women had the same experiences, they wouldn’t be as nice either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:24 PM
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Oh. So in your world it’s ok for a father to put his kids thru the trauma of watching their dad die while they are children, as long as he isn’t inconvenienced by being divorced and having to actually pay for his kids. Got it. You don’t sound selfish at all s/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:02 PM
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When it’s fake or bordering on codependency. There are naturally kind and courteous men, those don’t bother me. There are men who are faking it to get sex. It’s way more obvious than they think, and they will turn into complete assholes once they get what they want. And then there are the ones who are so desperate that it’s clearly going to turn into codependency if you allow it to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:40 PM
2

Again, I think your bitter and trying somehow to equate being dead to being divorced? Most divorced dads I know are still in their kids lives and paying child support IF they don’t have 50/50 custody (which is way more common here) A 60 year old isn’t gonna be around to do anything for his kids, except to be a burden for a few years before he dies. There’s a pretty significant difference. All your doing is trying to hijack my comment cause you are bitter about divorce. Not the same thing bud. Ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:35 AM
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Bitter much? ANYONE having children, male nor female, needs to consider if they are going to be around to raise that child. 60 year olds having kids is bullshit. Interesting how you twisted that to suit your agenda tho eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:20 AM
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Mid thigh shorts and a crop top are perfectly acceptable for casual wear in public. It’s a standard outfit for girls starting around age 10 in my country. I wouldn’t wear it, cause it doesn’t suit me, I’m over 40 and overweight, but it wouldn’t cross my mind to give a crap about another woman wearing it. If she looks good in it, great for her!!! If you can’t control your boner cause someone’s wearing that, go home and stay there. Women aren’t gonna wear burkas cause you have no self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:35 PM
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Nature doesn’t cover every eventuality. We have morality for the rest. It’s morally wrong to have a family that you can’t take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:42 PM
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There’s a point where men shouldn’t be having families regardless of fertility. It’s not fair to your kids to have them knowing you will die before they reach adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:13 PM
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The average dudes are actually getting average women. The guys complaining online about chads don’t really understand what’s happening. They think they are average. But they aren’t. Maybe lookswise they are average, but perhaps they have no social skills, they are misogynistic, they are living in moms basement with no job. Men don’t factor that stuff in when they decide a woman’s rating, they go purely on looks, women do factor those things in. So the guy who thinks he’s 5 looks wise is actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:36 PM
3

We have been separated 9 years. He had one girlfriend in the first year but has been involuntarily celibate since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:12 PM
3

Yes, his old boxing coach. I’d like him to get back into boxing because I think it was good for him, and some of the coaches are great role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:16 PM
2

Thank you 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:14 PM
7

He has no clue what he wants. He’s two months from graduating high school and I’m of the opinion his father drags him down. That’s an opinion I can’t voice tho, I have a rule about cutting him down to the kids. He doesn’t like where he’s at, but doesn’t yet know how to move on from that. His dad is 400 pounds and an alcoholic who barely works and barely parents. They live as bachelors, and eat like crap. I have my son come to me just to cook me supper once a week. I’m teaching him the importance…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:23 PM
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My son is my focus right now, there’s nothing I can do for my daughter. She’s had bad experiences and needs time to recover. For him, i encourage good hygiene/grooming, I model healthy eating habits, I’m teaching him to cook healthy meals. I encourage him to be active, lose the weight ( while trying to walk the tightrope of not hurting his feelings in the process, weight is a tricky thing to talk about). I’m teaching him to drive and pushing him to find work. I encourage him to go out with his f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:14 PM
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It’s painful. My daughter (26) seems to have given up due to bad experiences. My son (18) has never had a date. He’s overweight, not the prettiest, plays way too much video games, and his father whom he lives with is incel and a very negative person. This attitude def effects how my son behaves. I worry for them and that’s why I lurk this sub, to try to figure out how to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:38 PM
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Given the state of things post “me too”, it’s probably not the best idea to be getting that drunk and hooking up. In my young partying days, a woman who hooked up while drunk wouldn’t be pressing charges of any sort. Nowadays, it’s not uncommon for that happen. Even if you aren’t convicted, being charged and going thru court would be devastating and ruin your reputation. For everyone’s protection, it’s really best not to be getting that drunk, or if you choose to do it, to do in the company of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:25 PM
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Thank you for a male perspective on how this should work in order to protect the woman in this situation. Please teach the other men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:05 PM
3

Wow. I don’t actually know a single woman who left for another man. Clearly you aren’t quoting real life. Just your assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:01 PM
4

Wow, your description of Australian politics and aboriginal issues, is just like Canada. Our government has gutted our social programs. Instead of helping disabled/poor people with affordable homes and a livable wage, they gave us medical assistance in death. Our natives suffer on reserves without clean drinking water or proper homes. Or they come to the cities to be abused by the cops. And your points about finding work after being an SAHM are spot on. Traditional marriages meant the man cared …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:34 PM
2

It absolutely happens in Canada. You ever walk by a homeless camp? Where do you think all those older women came from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:27 PM
1

Doesn’t work that way. How’s she supposed to pay for a lawyer? How’s she supposed to take care of herself while the court is taking years to process the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:23 PM
0

I appreciate the offer of help, but we are in Canada. Our legal system is a lot different than US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:50 AM
16

So why don’t men take the risk and give up their careers? Why do women have to do it? Maybe we need reverse traditional marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:58 AM
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Used clothing, cribs,etc is already a fact of life for most parents here. Only the very wealthy buy all new stuff. You forgot to factor in the cost of buying an android instead of an iPhone, because a phone is essential here. They are used as home computers, home phones and emergency phones. No one wants their loved ones driving in the winter with no phone. That’s deadly in a snowstorm. You assume we are wasteful with our money. Some people are. Many, many are not. As for men not being immortal,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:33 AM
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Yup. It’s a completely different culture than you are used to. The square footage thing, we have a ton of single family homes, and nowhere near the density we need. The boomers fucked up there. It doesn’t change the fact that people who need those homes can’t afford them. It doesn’t change the 1% vacancy rates in our cities which cause rent to be insanely expensive. Why do people wait so long to have kids? Education is crazy expensive, resulting in tons of student debt. People are paying that of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:28 AM
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Meh. I hate the gym. Prefer to get my exercise naturally with daily walks, etc. I wouldn’t want a gym rat. Also, I liked my men a bit chubby for the cuddles. Lots of women do. Chubby dudes are usually still strong enough to move furniture etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:00 AM
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My mom had her first at 20. I had my first at 16. We were pretty damn young. I’m 42 now, my moms 65. Dads dead, grandparents all dead. It’s not about our ages, or how many kids we have. It’s about the fact that it is not normal here for kids to support parents. It’s simply not done. As for the number of kids, if the average Canadian had 4+ kids the likely outcome is everyone starving. We have low wages, high taxes and insane inflation. Each generation chooses to have less kids because we can’t a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:38 AM
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She did call the cops. There’s nothing they can do. She can’t hire a lawyer cause he has all the money. This is a common problem for women who are SAHMs. There’s legal aid, but it’s almost impossible to get. Our government gutted the program. Happy cake day!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:17 AM
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Again, you are assuming a cultural norm of children supporting aging parents. Which is normal in many parts of the world. But it is not the norm in western societies anymore. Especially the US and Canada. Hasn’t been for generations. My parents did not support their parents, I did not support them, my kids are not going to support me, and they probably won’t even have kids cause they can’t afford it. That’s 100% normal here (Canada).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:10 AM
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So in 40% of relationships with children, men either aren’t working at all or are only working part time?? We both know that isn’t really true. Im sure there’s a large percentage of women who make MORE than their partners. But the men are still working and building careers in most cases. That 3% of men who are getting alimony? Those are the ones who actually stayed home with kids and didn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:04 AM
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I’m not sure where you live, but millennials and zoomers are absolutely struggling to survive here (Canada) right now. We are in a housing crisis. They can barely afford rent, nevermind being able to buy a home or save anything for retirement. They sure as hell can’t afford to support aging parents. They can’t afford to even have kids of their own. Perhaps it’s different where you’re from, but no one here is expecting their kids to support them. Edit to add: social security isn’t a living wage h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:37 PM
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Again with the qualifiers, marriages breakup for many many different reasons. People change over the course of 20-30 years. If you have the right to ask a woman to give up her youth for you, then you have an obligation to support her for life. What if you cheat? What if you become angry and abusive? Develop a drinking problem? She still has to stay married to you for you to support her? No. You owe her regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:25 PM
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Online jobs aren’t careers. They help the family out by bringing in a bit of extra money, but if your marriage suddenly splits up when she’s in her 40s/50s, an online job isn’t going to support her. It’s hard to get a real job at that age. Agism in the workplace is a very real thing. Marriages breaking up after the kids grow up is extremely common. Are you going to pay her alimony equivalent to what she would be earning had she built a career instead of staying home?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:19 PM
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If the woman was home with the kids and didn’t get a chance to build a proper career, then the man is responsible for caring for her. If a man stays home and doesn’t build his career then the woman is responsible for caring for him. Parttime/online/crafting, is not a career. It helps the family make ends meet but will not support an individual. That’s why men are the ones paying alimony. When more men give up careers to raise children, more men will get alimony. It blows my mind that you guys do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:08 PM
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And what about after the kids? That was my question. What happens in the future when the kids grow up? If/when the marriage fails?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:01 PM
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I’d be interested to know that as well. From what I’ve read in the comments, men still have the mindset that they can do what they want if they have a trad wife. That seems to be why they want one, freedom to cheat cause she’s financially dependent and can’t do anything about it. Freedom to drop their wife for a younger model and not pay alimony. Freedom to use women up with no consequences seems to be what they really want. Doesn’t sound very faithful or honourable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:35 PM
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Like my momma always said, hope for the best, plan for the worst. Most people get married hoping it will last forever, but smart people plan for the worst. Cause statistically, a lifetime marriage isn’t likely these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:30 PM
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I hope she creeps his phone and finds this shit. Divorces him before they have anymore kids 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:27 PM
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There’s valuable lessons. Like taking care of yourself, working out, etc, etc. But that advice is given everywhere. The problem with red pill is that the advice is given along with a huge dose of anger, misogyny, disrespect and a strong emphasis on LYING!! I’d never date a red pill man cause I could never trust him. If I heard red pill terms slipping out I’d be gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:20 PM
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Guys like you are rare. If all men had that attitude, we would be more willing to take the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:00 PM
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I’m younger gen x. Both my grandmothers were SAHMs. You bet your ass they told us to get jobs and support ourselves. Both tolerated cheating husbands only to be left in their late 50s with no financial support. And I told my daughter she had to work, I’ll be telling my granddaughters the same thing (if I get any 🤷‍♀️).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:59 PM
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If the world worked like this, great. But our society doesn’t. So the burden of the traditional relationship falls on the woman. Women give their best years to family instead of building a career. Then the marriage fails for whatever reason (I believe around 50% of marriages fail here) and she’s expected to be able to support herself. Men fight tooth and nail not to pay alimony, even tho they benefited from her work during her best years. I’m thankful beyond belief that I worked full time while …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:53 PM
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Just cause you don’t like it, doesn’t make it unfair. I’m sure you will be miserable in 20 years cause you’re setting yourself up for it. I said I hope your wife gets a job so she doesn’t have to deal with you in 20 years. I could care less how miserable you are, you seem like the kinda guy who deserves the misery he’s going to bring on himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:00 PM
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Fair alimony would be enough to support her comfortably. You think it’s not fair cause you don’t want to pay it. Getting fat isn’t really a choice, it’s a thing that happens when life gets busy (which it will with 6 kids) and you don’t have time to eat perfectly and exercise everyday. And you clearly weren’t joking, your statements make it clear that if she gets fat, you are out. So I hope for your wife’s sake she gets a job instead of popping out more kids, cause your gonna miserable to deal wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:45 PM
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So she has to tolerate you screwing other chicks just because you support her? Does that mean she gets to screw other guys too? Are you going to pay fair alimony if there’s a divorce or drag that shit thru the courts for years while she struggles then refuse to pay anyways? (that’s what tends to happen in alimony cases in my country).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:34 PM
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Not a fucking chance. I’m from a generation that was split. Some of us women worked, some didn’t. I worked. When my husbands drinking got out of control and he became abusive, I was free to leave. A close friend of mine didn’t work cause her husband wanted a SAHM. Their relationship is in the rocks now that the kids are adults. He locked her out of the house last week and told her she doesn’t live there anymore cause she doesn’t pay for anything. So she’s pretty much fucked now, she has no real …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:29 PM
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I think “lower your standards” is the wrong phrase here. Dating within your league is important for compatibility. What men need to be doing is seeking women who share their interests and stop chasing “hot and young” exclusively. If a guy is super into the gym, shopping for clothes, looking fleek, going to parties, then those young and hot IG models are right up their alley. That’s their league cause they are compatible. Guys who hate the gym, love playing video games, have no interest in clothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:10 PM
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Then you made your choice. You can chase the pretty girls and deal with the toxicity. Don’t bitch about it. It’s your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:11 PM
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Lol. Pure assumption. I’m more likely to date a short fat guy. I avoid chads like the plague cause I think they are a plague. Toxic women chase toxic men. Foolish men chase toxic women and assume all women are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:10 PM
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I don’t wear makeup. Got shit on for it another thread. There’s lots of women who don’t. But of course, you don’t see that. Cause your blinded by the subset of women who do that you feel are attractive and you don’t see the regular women all around you. Yes toxic femininity does exist. It’s not all women. It’s the ones you all want to fuck cause they are the prettiest. The rest of us are just chillin waiting for you guys to collectively pull your heads out of your asses and realize that the pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:15 PM
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It’s my preference, and frankly, many men prefer it as well. They know that they will wake up to the same face they went to bed with. I’ve never had an interest in makeup or hair and have zero talent for it. It also simply doesn’t suit my lifestyle. I work from home, spend my free time with my animals or close friends and family. I don’t need makeup and fancy hair to take the dog to the park or hang out and watch a movie with a friend. I’m not going to the office or spending time at bars/clubs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:36 PM
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I do not wear makeup. I will put on mascara maybe twice a year for a special occasion. I get my hair trimmed twice a year by a friend who’s a barber and wear it in a ponytail or bun most days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:08 PM
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I’m a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:07 PM
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Men want to have casual sex with the prettiest women. Those women tend to be obsessed with their appearance. Hair, makeup, clothes, etc. and they tend to have huge personality flaws, such as being a bitch and chasing money (to pay for hair, make up and clothes) We all get accused of being like that because normal women aren’t noticed or acknowledged. In the world view of the red pill man, we don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:36 PM
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The sexualization of women in media isn’t really an issue for me personally (a woman). But, It does seem to have a very strong impact on impressionable young male minds. They grow up watching movies with the most beautiful sexy women, with it being very rare for normal women to be shown. They develop a belief that most women look like that, and that when they grow up they will be entitled to have casual sex with women like that because that’s what media shows. When they become adults, most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:28 PM
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I can’t argue this. I know women who are obsessed with looks and money exist. But in my world they are the minority. I can spot them walking down the street. They are the ones who are obsessed with their looks, body, makeup, hair, clothes. They want the money because all those things are expensive. I suspect RP men believe those are the only women in existence because they simply don’t see the thousands of normal women walking around. They have eyes only for the prettiest girls, not understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:56 PM
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No we wouldn’t. Sex isn’t pleasurable for many species. They still exist because the drive to procreate is more than just a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:19 PM
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I don’t understand the point of this? Are you trying to say that without sex being pleasurable, men and women would not coexist? That’s def wrong. I would suspect that without the high pressures of sex, men and women would likely coexist more peacefully than they do now. Are you saying only things that are essential to survival are pleasurable? Also wrong. Hard drugs are a clear example of this. They release dopamine causing addiction which often leads to death. If there was some other point to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:12 PM
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I keep wondering the same thing. If it’s that desperate of a situation, why don’t they lower their standards? I’m getting to the point where I don’t think a lot of these guys are really involuntarily celibate so much as just shooting out of their leagues. And I think it’s just subconscious self sabotage because they don’t want to admit what their league really is. So really, it’s voluntary celibacy. They have the option to lower their standards or pay an escort 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:12 AM
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In reading the title, I thought there might be potential for discussion here. But nope. Just another delusional guy. Kindness does not equal pity sex. I treat everyone around me kindly. I’m Canadian, it’s ingrained. But no. If your that desperate, get an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:56 AM
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Pre historic literally means, pre humans. Pre = before. So before history or before humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:54 AM
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Alright, then your initial statement is true. What we know of caveman days is that most things were done by instinct, far more like the animal kingdom than anything resembling current society. Strength ruled supreme and we don’t know what kind of relationships they had, monogamous or polygamous. Likely polygamous, given how young women would have died in childbirth. A man would likely have many wives over his lifetime if he didn’t get eaten. Women would have gravitated towards stronger men to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:52 AM
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I’m not sure what time period you are referring to? Pre historic times would be pre humans. As in when the dinosaurs existed. Are you asking about caveman days? Are you asking pre Industrial Revolution? Or do you think the 1970’s was historic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:36 AM
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It really depends on the person. Some people value family more and in that case the partner matters more. Some people value their careers more and in that case the job would matter more. Everyone is different and there’s no one right answer to that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:41 PM
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It’s all algorithms. I have an interest in politics and finance. So my feeds will always show articles and videos of role models in those fields, male and female. I have zero interest in celebrity gossip, fashion etc so kardashians and the like never show up on my feeds. Edit to add, there are plenty of female role models in all types of industries, but unless you are interested in those industries, you wouldn’t know who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:58 PM
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It sure is. And the lesser qualified candidate MAY get the opportunity he desires. But more likely he will have to settle for the job he can get rather than the one he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:04 PM
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It sure is. And the lesser qualified candidate MAY get the opportunity he desires. But more likely he will have to settle for the job he can get rather than the one he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:45 PM
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Right now a handful of guys, comparative to population, are doing it. But if 20-30-40% of western men start doing it, how long before it goes horribly wrong? But then again, I shouldn’t expect any kind of forward thinking from someone who’s biggest concern is sex with a hot woman right now cause he deserves it and it’s not fair. You aren’t capable of thinking what happens in the future,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:32 PM
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Ok. So going overseas presents a few problems. I’m assuming you are speaking of going to more traditional countries to get the “good” girls over there. That’s frequently a scam, you go, you lose all your money and potentially a kidney. You actually do meet a girl but her family has no interest in her being with a western male. You are beaten and driven off by her father and 7 brothers if not outright killed. If you could make enough money to woo a foreign woman, her religion, culture and values …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:24 PM
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It started with envy and became objectification out of anger. Their brains can’t hold that much jealousy and hate and still see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:00 PM
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That’s usually accidental eye contact, if she keeps making and breaking eye contact tho, that’s probably shyness. So you can gently approach and be polite. Maintains eye contact, have a conversation with her. Again, be polite. Same as two General tips: Ask something more interesting than the weather that’s suited to the situation. At a pool hall? Do you play often? How long have u been playing? Tell an interesting story related to the situation, I was playing this one time and…. A neutral compli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:34 PM
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I’ve been trying to sort that out for the last week. I’m new here and a woman. But from what I’m understanding here, casual sex is the goal. Relationships are the poor man’s consolation prize. Unless the girl is a super hot virgin, then a relationship is the goal. Edit to add: super hot virgin girl must look like a model, fuck like a pornstar, and be completely submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:44 AM
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“You all” women is apparently being represented by the 9% of women who are open to casual sex. Who are sharing those 20% of guys that can actually get casual sex. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1293z02/9_of_young_women_are_single_and_sexually_active/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:07 AM
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I’ve learned patience, communication, healthy attachment. That it’s important to stay calm and not be overly emotional or temperamental. How to set healthy boundaries, take things slow. Be more open minded. I’ve learned that romantic love/sex is only a small part of life and there’s much more to experience. And I’ve learned that coping methods such as alcohol help short term but create far more problems longterm. That’s a brief summary and even at my age I haven’t mastered them. But I’m getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:00 AM
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Because you would like to turn a neutral debate into a personal attack? Yeah no. Ive learned plenty about myself and am constantly improving. I’ve never claimed to be perfect. Just another imperfect human trying to be better. But if you want answer that question for yourself feel free
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:12 PM
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Good or bad, everyone learns something from everyone they date. That’s the nature of the beast. Hopefully we learn how to improve ourselves along with learning what things we aren’t ok with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:00 PM
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Dating is how we learn about people and we learn what behaviours and warning signs to watch out for. If 20 year old me knew half the shit 42 year old me knows, she would have never dated the guys she did. So it will always have an impact. We learn that chads will pump and dump. We learn that normal guys will too. We learn to spot lies and inconsistencies. We learn that the guy who drinks a little now, might be an alcoholic later. We learn that a guy who exhibits certain insecurities, may later t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:26 PM
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I forgot to mention the personal attacks in my original comment lol. I’ve been called an old dried up hag, a femcel, hardcore feminist and probably a few others I can’t remember. Typical denial strategy, your argument makes sense but I don’t want to admit so I’ll call you names instead 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:33 PM
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I think it’s to do with the approaches of the different mentalities. There’s people who do genuinely want to hear both sides and try to understand and help. But it’s impossible when perfectly reasonable arguments are constantly rebutted with dug in stupidity. I’m one of those. I’ve been here about a week. I’ve commented dozens of times, on various posts. Sometimes there’s a good discussion. Most of the time it degenerates almost immediately into entitlement, pity parties, and cries of “but it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:19 PM
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You hit it. He got into a relationship with a woman in his league that he had things in common with. He didn’t try to change himself to attract a woman above his league that he has nothing in common with just for the ego boost of fucking a hot woman. That’s why they are successful. Aim for something you can achieve, instead of focusing on the unfairness of not being a “chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:01 PM
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They aren’t getting connection having casual sex, which seems to be the aim. The refusal to use prostitutes is because that won’t give them bragging rights for having “tricked” a woman into bed. That angle of it is about ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:24 PM
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Yes. It’s an extreme example. But frankly, still a better argument than constant repetitions of “but chad….” Which is essentially what this asshat I’m arguing with is doing. All women hate most men cause “chad”. It’s all about him being genetically deficient and that’s why women dont like him. Nothing at all to do with women protecting themselves from mens behaviours. Such as, violence, rape, stalking, murder, and for the 4th time in this thread, CASUAL SEX!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:06 PM
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Ok live in your loop of denial 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:25 PM
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Maybe shit like this has something to do with it?? And, for the 3rd time in this thread alone, because men keep pushing for CASUAL SEX!!! Women don’t start out hating men! Men do things over and over again and make women not like them!!! It’s not that hard to understand. I can’t believe how unbelievably thick you are!! https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/129ld9k/canadian_women_and_girls_killed_by_violence_up_24/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:16 PM
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Because most men aren’t offering relationships, just casual sex. Exactly what I just said they don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:01 PM
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I chose single. But I’m a woman. I’d rather have a rich handsome husband, but that’s not my reality. I accepted that I had to choose between fuck boys and single because of my genetics/financial status. I chose single and I’m happy with my choice. I’m not angry I can’t have what I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:50 PM
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Because babies need to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:47 PM
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If you choose to dwell on only the negative, that’s your choice, you will always be unhappy. Yes, they did things for their wives. And wives did things for their husbands. That’s what a partnership is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:37 PM
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And that’s life. You accept what you are capable of achieving and roll with it, be as happy as you can with it. It’s called “settling down”. And it’s an integral part of growing up. One must learn to accept the hand life dealt them and work with it or be eternally miserable. It’s never been fair, it never will be fair 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:34 PM
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So that’s not fair cause you want it and you can’t get it. Your choice now is, accept that you can’t get what you want (casual sex) and instead seek what you might be able to achieve (relationship with a woman in your league) OR scream into the void for all eternity that it’s not fair. I want a mansion. I wasn’t born into a wealthy family, and hard as I tried, I didn’t do well enough financially to afford one. It’s not fair because some people can afford mansions. I accepted that it’s not fair b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:10 PM
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Yes, but it’s such a small proportion now that women no longer trust men. It only takes one deceitful man to ensure a woman never trusts again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:53 PM
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Yes. Those men got lucky. Just like the wealthy playboys of historical times. Those men got the prettiest, wealthiest virgins to marry. Average guys got what was left over and they had to marry them, they did not get casual sex. It wasn’t fair then, and it isn’t fair now. Life is NOT fair. They accepted their fate and worked with what they could get. They did not spend their lives screaming into the void that it wasn’t fair. They accepted the hand life dealt them. Your generation will have to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:51 PM
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I get the frustration. I do. But the absolute refusal to change what really needs to change blows my mind. It’s like a child who is told they can have a treat IF they pick up their toys. They don’t want to pick up their toys. So they scream into the void trying to get the treat without doing the chore. “That’s not fair, I want it!!” They don’t get the treat and they learn that next time they will have to do the chore to get the treat. So now we have a bunch of men who want sex. They are told, re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:39 PM
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I shake my head. Because all the improving yourself won’t help a damn thing if you are still chasing women for casual sex. A very small percentage of women are interested in casual sex. Most want relationships. You guys have to offer what women want, which IS NOT another dude who just wants to get laid. 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:27 PM
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No it literally doesn’t. Because sex is not on the same level as food and shelter no matter how much you want to believe it is. If you want fruit and vegetables because they are most nutritious, but only bread is available, you will eat the bread because you will die without it. If you want a nice home, but a tin shack is all that is available, you will live in the tin shack because you will die from exposure to the elements. That is why a friend will help you in those circumstances. A friend wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:02 PM
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If it’s simply a physiological need like shelter, it shouldn’t matter their gender. You may want a mansion but live in a shack because thats what’s available. You may want a woman, but if a man’s available and it’s a physiological need, clearly you would be obliged to take what’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:38 PM
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An average male child born in the united states today will live on average 74.5 years. Not really a problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:30 PM
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No my feelings aren’t hurt. I’m just genuinely shocked, I know there’s stupid people in this world. But you are in a special category all your own. Please, do the world a favor and go without food for as long you have been without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:28 PM
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For now. My point is that more women are doing it at younger ages. Not that most women are doing it. And if you look up the stats past age 49, that percentage goes up. Because, as I said, we give up. We get divorced and don’t go back on the market. Or we go back and realize it’s horrible and decide we are better off staying single. So all those now divorced men are stuck staying single because there is no women for them. I get that your young and you think that’s not your problem, but what is yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:20 PM
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Are you fucking serious???!!! You will be uncomfortable and unhappy without sex. You will literally die without food. But if you think they are comparable, please, go a month without food.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:08 PM
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Ok. Let me know how that works out for ya when your old 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:47 PM
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We do give up eventually tho. I gave up at 40, but the behaviours are so bad and so consistent now, my daughter gave up at 24. It’s way more than 5-10% of men. Thats indicative of the mentality that women are only dating chads. Women avoid chads because they are known issue. It’s average dudes who cause the problems, and a lot more than 5-10% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:41 PM
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Ok. So you chase only sex. Women hate you for it. Your prospects become slimmer as you age. Because you are older and less attractive and because older women have been thru so much crap like this that they remove themselves from the dating pool (which happens at younger ages now btw. I removed myself at 40, my daughter removed herself at 24) Women are fine with this ultimately because we all know we are going to die alone anyways, men have shorter life spans. Single women live longer than marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:27 PM
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It really is. Men were bad 20+ years ago when I was young and dating. And worse when I was dating in my 30s. But this is simply out of control. These young men don’t understand the value of relationships and are completely focused on just sex. No wonder marriage rates and birth rates are declining so fast. Edit:grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:17 PM
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If that’s what you take from my post, and how you choose to behave, then the feminist world is coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:11 PM
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That’s a story you guys like to tell yourselves. It’s far more average guys than “chads” doing it. I’ve watched this play out for more than 20 years. The “chads” are pretty open about their intentions. A lot of women avoid them because they know their intentions. It’s way more often average guys who lie to have sex. A lot of guys here are openly admitting they are chasing women for casual sex. That’s the whole point of improving yourselves in the manosphere from my understanding of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:04 AM
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Net positive. I’ve learned more about the issues facing young people in the dating world. I’ve developed some (not a lot but some) sympathy for the men that I didn’t have before. And I hope it’s a net positive for them as well. I hope that somewhere in this sea of debate there’s a comment that will be able to reach one of them and help them break out of the rut. That can only happen if they are open to hearing it tho. There’s no positive for anyone who isn’t willing to consider the other sides p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:22 AM
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Young women are learning at a younger age what I learned in my 40s. It’s not worth trying to date these days. They are removing themselves from the market. My daughter (26) and a few of her friends have done that. Because they have been poorly treated by men. That number will get smaller and smaller as more girls decide they have had enough. Young men are shooting themselves in the foot chasing casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:19 AM
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Per OPs post. 64% in relationships. Close enough to your stat. Not gonna argue it. 27% NOT sexually active. Those are the girls who are NOT on the market. That’s the number I am saying is going to go up. 9% left potentially open to casual sex. That’s the number I am saying is going to go down. I can’t explain the discrepancy between young men’s rate of relationships and young women’s, my suspicion is that’s younger women in relationships with older men. Which isn’t the topic of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:17 AM
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Young women are learning at a younger age what I learned in my 40s. It’s not worth trying to date these days. They are removing themselves from the market. My daughter (26) and a few of her friends have done that. Because they have been poorly treated by men. That number will get smaller and smaller as more girls decide they have had enough. Young men are shooting themselves in the foot chasing casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:54 AM
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I’m well aware of the financial aspects. But people are already solving those problems non romantically because so many are single and we are in a housing crisis in my country. Roommates is likely to become the norm here for singletons. Women will forever weigh consequences against gains and find solutions. Financial stability isn’t worth being in a unhappy relationship if there’s another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:35 PM
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See my response to your other comment. It sums up nicely what young men need to do. If they start doing those things, the women will change as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:26 PM
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No, ironically, once I stopped trying to play the game, I stopped even wanting to. I have zero desire to have a relationship. I realized that I had only been trying to find one because society said I should, once I realized that I truly didn’t want a relationship, I became much happier. That’s why more women drop out of the dating game as they get older. Everyone learns it at a different age, but most women do eventually learn it. We take a dating hiatus for whatever reason, our lives suddenly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:21 PM
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It wouldn’t be perfect of course. But it can be done, that situation is already playing out in millions of households.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:02 PM
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Honestly, it’s the stuff so many young men seem to keep denying. Treat women with respect. Be less angry/violent. Don’t try to sleep with as many women as you can. Def don’t lie to sleep with women, this is the biggest one, it is devastating as a young woman to sleep with someone you thought loved you and be dumped anyways. This creates angry young women. Once your in a relationship, be kind, loving and supportive to your partner. And ffs, put the damn toilet seat down and pick up your dirty soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:00 PM
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How do they have numbers on their side if 100% of women and 15% of men are against 85% of men?? Men are bigger and stronger, yes, but a war like you describe wouldnt fought hand to hand, it would be fought with guns, and women are equally capable of pulling a trigger. So your math just doesn’t add up. 115 is more than 85. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:19 PM
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So if it’s not accomplishment to have men hitting on me (which I do in fact agree with), then it’s also not an insult. It’s literally nothing to me but unwanted and unneeded attention. Attacking me personally in this context doesn’t help your case, because I simply don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:15 PM
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My son left me? I said my son chose to live with his father. Which made sense to all of us as he was entering puberty. Do you think I’m upset by his choice? Not at all. It was the best thing for HIM at the time. My relationship with him is fantastic despite not living with him full time. I made this post because I still want what’s best for him. The future I described isn’t best for him. I can’t change it tho, todays young men need to change it. Young men cannot change it if they don’t understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:09 PM
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Men are after women of all ages for just sex that’s not unique to being old. The youngest, most beautiful women are pursued for sex far more than for marriage. That’s the number one complaint from women. Your not hurting my feelings by stating something that’s true for most people 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:58 PM
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My children are adults. My daughter was living on her own when my marriage broke up. Ironically I do know what being a single mother is like since she was born years before I married, its not actually that bad. My son, being an almost teenage starting puberty at the time, opted to live with his father. I PAID child support. As for assets, they were sold and split 50/50 because they were paid for 50/50. My husband and I made essentially equal incomes, throughout the entire marriage. sometimes his…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:38 PM
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What brought women into the workplace in the first place was a war that needed planes, tanks, guns, and ammunition. The men were all fighting. Women were the ones building all that. We have proven that we can in fact build airplanes if it’s necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:31 PM
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Dogs are pretty awesome too, I have both 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:27 PM
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In hindsight, yes. We grew up with media portraying the married with kids lifestyle is the one to strive for. Think Disney princess movies. Rom coms. There was no alternative lifestyle really being presented to girls back in the 80s (when I was a kid). Most parents didn’t really encourage female children to pursue careers, etc. the assumption then was still that we would become secretaries, etc, get married, quit working. Had I been treated the same as my male siblings, and not constantly floode…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:15 PM
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That’s certainly a possibility. They could do that. It would be more likely to happen if this massive change happened overnight. But I think it’s a change that’s actually already started and will happen slowly over the next few generations. A violent uprising is less likely in that situation as people will accept “that’s the way society is” once it becomes the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:09 PM
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Nope. Just an “old” lady who wants her kids to have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:58 PM
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I’ve been watching this play out for two decades. Woman wants to be a plumber. She gets her ticket, gets a job, there’s no bathroom provided for her on site, she’s subjected to a ton of harrassment from the men in the site who don’t want a woman there. Takes it as long as she can. Then gives up and goes into another field. This is one example from one person I was close too, but it’s by far not the first time it’s happened. So your theory that I’m out of touch because I’m old, doesn’t play out. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:52 PM
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It’s not man hate. It’s literally what I see happening. I want men to step up and do better. I’m the furthest thing from an extremist. Ironically, I want men to wake up and see that they are the cause of what’s happening and they need to make relationships appealing again, because they aren’t right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:48 PM
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Thank you very much for understanding what I’m saying. I want both my children to be in fulfilling relationships. But my daughter (26) is choosing to stay single because of being treated poorly by men. My son (18) wants a girlfriend, and I see very little chance of him achieving that in the current dating environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:44 PM
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My point is that men need to do that to prevent a society like the one described. I made this post to open eyes, not because I’m personally affected. I would love to see men as a group step up and do better. Some are doing it, but there’s so many that are going the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:39 PM
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This is a problem that men have to adapt to. We are not going back to the old world now. It was in place for thousands of years and now within a few short generations, it drastically changed. Men have to figure out what their place in this world is and adapt. Trying to force things to go back just won’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:19 PM
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That’s my point. Thank you for getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:17 PM
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I think what your failing to understand, is that eventually we all become old women and end up alone as mens lifespans are significantly shorter than womens. We live 20 years as fertile women and then another 40+ as non fertile women. I assure you that not all older single women are miserable. Many of us quite content and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:16 PM
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I’m actually Canadian, but we have all that shit here too. Just to a lesser extent because we have 1/10th the population of the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:11 PM
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How do you figure no kids would be born? Men would still exist. Even if they didn’t, we have sperm banks full of baby making juice. Do you think women wouldn’t find a way to clone that sperm? I’m pretty sure we would if we had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:08 PM
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Women attempting to break in to male dominated industries face constant harrassment from their male coworkers. Sexual and non sexual. So if a woman does want to be a garbage collector, she has enormous hurdles to overcome that have nothing to do with her ability to do the job. Btw, garbage collector is pretty damn good job here, well paid and minimal bullshit from clients. I’m sure there’s a few women who would like a job like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:03 PM
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That’s flat out assumption. Men of all ages still approach me pretty regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:00 PM
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Young men don’t need older women, but older men do. Men’s sex drives don’t diminish that much as they get older. They aren’t enough twenty year old virgins to go around, so men over 40 do in fact still need women over 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:58 PM
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I agree that society is better when we get along. My opinions aren’t from the basis of having been hurt. I’ve been watching all this in concern from the direction our world is going because my children are young adults, one female, one male. I want the world to be better for BOTH of them. Im actually more concerned for my son than my daughter at this point, because of my observations on how the dating world is. I would like to see the young men of this generation step up and actually make the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:52 PM
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Dude, at 42, I’m not having kids. I already raised two, my youngest is 18
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:58 PM
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I’m 42f. It’s easy. Young women are conditioned to believe they HAVE to be in a relationship from a young age. Older women have realized we don’t have to, and experience has taught us that it’s not worth it for us, we are better off alone. So we are now free to do as we please. If that means a woman wants to bang hot young men, she will. The hot young men certainly won’t be complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:25 PM
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Ah I see where your logic is at. You are assuming that women want more men. My point is that women don’t need to be in relationships or having sex AT ALL. Some choose to. Less choose to as they get older because society is changing and we are realizing our worth and that we don’t need to be in relationships. If anything it tends to make our lives harder. (FYI, I’m over forty, was married for ten years, have two grown children, and I am one who chooses to remain single now ). If men were to withd…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:44 PM
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You clearly stated earlier in the thread that men need to create incentive by withholding relationships. I explained that won’t work because women don’t NEED relationships. They are nice to have but not essential. I gave you 7 clearly stated reasons why women don’t need relationships. Now you say it’s a sexual standard, not an incentive. But you still haven’t explained how it helps you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:34 PM
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I still don’t hear an incentive. I hear what you want, but not how you think withholding relationships will achieve it. Or any realistic alternative as to how your going to achieve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:07 PM
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Ah I see. I think what your trying to say is that your gonna try to punish women by withholding relationships. That’s not incentivizing in this day and age. We are capable of making our own incomes We are capable of buying and caring for our own homes. We have options outside of marriage to have children. We have options for sex outside of marriage. We are usually social enough on our own so we have love and support platonically from friends and family. As single women we only have to care for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:36 PM
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🤣🤣🤣. Women will not “always have” their looks. We have our looks till about 25-30 if we are lucky. Then it’s weight gain, dull skin, gray hair and wrinkles. That’s why older men tend to be obsessed with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:48 PM
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This likely plays a role too. There’s not much money for fun for anyone these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:34 PM
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I did. He didn’t believe I would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:29 PM
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It’s not a thing people talk about. I don’t think fat guys want people to know. I googled it years ago when it first happened and it’s very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:10 AM
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Your not? Dammit!!! Can maybe just the RPs go and form a man only society in Antarctica or something?edit to add: I like most men. But I’m totally cool with guys like this leaving 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:43 AM
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This is very much like it was here, except we did end up with vaccine passports near the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:36 AM
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I’m getting the impression he’s not talking about the average beauty routine of a professional woman. He’s posting videos of instagram model makeup, the kind that changes your whole face. A lawyer can’t wear makeup like that to work and be taken seriously. That’s the kind of thing women obsessed with fashion do. The ones who do makeup like that usually have fake nails, fake tans, fake eyelashes, hair extensions, hair color, regular salon blowouts and all the designer clothes, accessories, etc to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:08 AM
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I’m in Alberta Canada. We had strict lockdowns and masking rules. Bars and restaurants were on lockdown for ages. Then reopened off and on with strict restrictions on masking etc. once schools reopened, If the school or certain classrooms hit a certain level of infection, the class or the whole school could be sent home for two weeks. My sons school had a high rate of infection so he wasn’t ever actually in school for more than a week at a time for almost two years. It had a huge impact on peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:05 AM
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It effects zoomers more than anyone else I think. It’s a combination of things that led to it. Im a mom of two zoomers (26f and 18m) and here’s what I see. They were mostly kept under tight watch as children, I would have liked my kids to be outside playing more, but the other kids weren’t allowed most of the time. So most of them grew up on devices. They lack social skills as a result of this. Young women are extremely cautious nowadays because of all the media coverage on sexual assaults, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:39 AM
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Glad to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:21 AM
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Your post is basically demonizing women for not doing the beauty routine. But you are clearly out of touch as to what it costs to do it. How much money do you make? Is it enough to spend $120,000 dollars a year on beauty before you have paid for your home or any food? Because here, only 11% of our population makes over $100,000 a year. So for the large majority of us, spending that kind of money is completely unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:43 PM
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I am a woman. I don’t pay for that for myself because it’s ridiculous. High end beauty products, nail salon visits, tanning and hair salon visits can easily run $2000 a month. Add in designer handbags, shoes and clothes, a man could easily be spending $5000 to $10,000 a month on his woman’s appearance. That’s $60,000 to $120,000 a year on just being pretty. That’s an good middle income salary in Canada. Spent on things that are completely unessential. You would have to be pretty well off to supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:29 PM
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In the younger demographics this is probably true. Once a man has a experienced a longterm relationship with a woman who focuses that much on her looks, he will hesitate. Those beauty products, salon trips and clothes can run thousands $$$$ a month. One of the fastest ways to run a couple/family into massive amounts of debt. Doesn’t matter so much how your woman looks when you can’t pay the rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:12 PM
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Nope. It’s been 9 years. He gave up and is working on eating/drinking himself to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:12 PM
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My favourite part of fat guys complaining about fat women is this. Fat women may be less attractive, yes. But fat men also tend to be less attractive AND because of how/where men gain weight, they actually lose inches off their dick. My ex husband went from 200 pounds to over 350, his dick inverted. No longer actually capable of having sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:07 PM
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As we get older, we realize it too. Relationships are a ton of work for women with very little return.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:52 PM
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Men don’t get this. At all. I nagged my ex husband for years to cut back his drinking, actually participate in the family activities and stop yelling at everybody all the time. He didn’t listen. I gave up. Started just ignoring him for a couple years. He was shocked when I up and left. Apparently he thought everything was fine cause I stopped nagging. Didn’t understand I stopped because I didn’t care anymore. Leaving was easy for me, it’s been 9 years and he’s still stuck on it and angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:44 PM
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If it fits neatly in a drawer, whatever. Sex dolls are creepy tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:50 AM
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That was a lot of words to say, men want super hot virgins. I’m waiting for the part where women are incentivized to be super hot virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:43 AM
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Came here to say this. It’s hard not to notice that men on this sub seem to think they should be able to have casual sex with whomever they want now and marry a virgin later. I can’t figure out how they think it’s possible to have it both ways. The thinking is completely skewed. This absolutely about wanting innocent virgins to control later, when they are ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:40 AM
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That’s totally fair, I sadly agree that it probably is here to stay. I wish you the best of luck in your adventures!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:35 PM
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I’m here cause I find this all fascinating. I’ve already been married, raised a family, done all the things. I have a good income and comfortably support myself. I could date if I wanted to, but I don’t cause it’s stressful and I’m past the age where I care that much about sex. I stumbled on this sub and it’s entertaining. I have no stake in this anymore. But if trying to tear me down makes you feel better, all the power to ya buddy!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:33 PM
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I don’t think people who struggle to get into relationships are bad people. I think exposure to RPs creates an unconscious bias that comes out in ways you don’t realize. So I fully support everyone improving themselves, physically, financially or whatever other ways they want to improve. i don’t support red pill ideology because it creates a bigger problem than it solves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:25 PM
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And I can’t figure out why your sexless and single hanging out on red pill sites. Your negative attitude doesn’t show at all s/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:19 PM
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Ok. Let me know how that works out when your 50, ugly, and broke with a horrible personality and can’t get laid without paying in cash upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:05 PM
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I didn’t ignore what you said. I agree that improving your surface qualities will make you initially more attractive. You also said the personality stuff can be done later. I’m explaining why it can’t be done later. Getting women to talk to you does not immediately get you dates. If you talk to women and your personality repels them, you still won’t get dates. It just perpetuates a cycle of being constantly angry at women, which we will sense. The more we sense that, the less we will be willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:03 PM
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Oh we know. You aren’t as clever as you think you are. There’s always something that gives it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:54 PM
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So you do all the things, women talk to you. But they sense the anger you have built up from years of exposure to the red pill sites. They refuse to date you. So now what do you blame it on? Your personality? Or, some other uncontrollable factor, like your height, women’s standards, the dating culture? I suspect most RPs are going to continue to blame it on an external, uncontrollable factor rather than doing the very difficult work of adjusting their attitudes. You can’t fix the outside till yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:51 PM
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Red pill solutions will work to get women to speak to you. However, if you open your mouth and the red flags start flying, that’s as far as it goes. So it’s not really a solution. Working on your emotional issues and personality are the only real solution, intangible as it may be. If the “solutions” actually worked, you would all be happily settled in relationships. You wouldn’t still be following the sites. It’s actually making your problem worse by perpetuating a negative attitude towards wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:37 PM
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From the perspective of an over 40 single-by-choice woman. When I first left my marriage, the loneliness felt unbearable, and it stayed that way for years. I “coped” for years and tried to find a new relationship. Eventually I came to realize that it was dating itself that was making me so very miserable. The difficulties of dating in the current landscape cause huge self esteem issues for everyone (men and women) and I honestly believe that we are all traumatized in some way by the experience. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:48 PM
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I don’t understand? I’m an average Canadian woman. Our culture isn’t that different from yours. Some average women want to sleep around, not all or even most. Most just want a regular relationship. That’s pretty hard to achieve when every guy you meet is doing everything he can to get you into bed without committing to anything. Honestly, it would solve our problems too if you all just went to prostitutes for sex and then dated with intention instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:23 PM
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I think you would be surprised to learn that many nice women do want to be married or in a relationship, but probably not the hot young party girls. Again, find a nice, AVERAGE woman. Stop focusing on banging girls that are out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:17 PM
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Your focusing on the wrong part of my comment and not understanding the point. Your choice as an average guy is marriage or prostitution. It is not, dating sites and banging all the hot girls. If you can’t afford a prostitute, still your problem. Find a nice average girl and settle down. Complaining on the internet doesn’t change your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:05 PM
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What are average guys offering that the “chads” aren’t? Are they better looking? No. Wealthier? No. Better personalities? No. Relationships? No. So if an average dude is offering less than “chad” is and is still going to pump and dump, why should a woman lower her standards to meet him? How does she benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:01 PM
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If they choose to, sure. And poor men can too. But they don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:52 PM
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Legalizing it solves nothing. The services are available for men to use and mostly ignored by the law here. However, men themselves don’t want to use the services. They want to fool some woman into having sex for free. Ego boost maybe? The only thing that solves this problem is men accepting their level in society, accepting that they will have to go for less attractive women and offer relationships. This is how it’s been for all of history. Wealthy handsome playboys got to sleep around. Normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:47 PM
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I can’t speak for your exact situation, but have I seen average men do similar shit to get sex? Absolutely. There’s not much a dude won’t do for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:53 PM
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No, it’s because experience has taught us that average men are often lying to get laid. In fact, at least chad is honest about his zero intentions towards a relationship, he doesn’t have to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:44 PM
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You invalidated your own argument by adding a qualifier “decent”. Men gatekeep relationships. We have to meet their standards to get a relationship. Women gatekeep sex. You have to meet our standards to get laid. You have a loophole tho, and that’s the relationship. If I as a woman am choosing between two guys, a chad or an average guy, I know the chad is gonna be a pump and dump scenario. The average guy is offering a relationship, I’m probably going to choose him. However, if he’s also going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:35 PM
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The mentality of men in this sub seems to be that they deserve as many hot young women as they want to have sex with. Women avoid men who only want sex, we want relationships. Men do not want to admit what the actual problem is so they blame women for high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:40 PM
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From what I’ve read on this sub, he absolutely would be upset about someone else being wealthy or tall, because that means they get sex and he doesn’t in his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:54 PM
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Average men probably could get average women. However, average men chase instagram models 20 years younger than themselves and expect it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:39 PM
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