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FIELD REPORT FDStrategist/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:36 AM
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DISCUSSIONFDStrategist/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/06/21 09:21 AM
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Right? I cringe so hard remembering that one 🤮
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/21 07:24 PM
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I love this one about men who fixate on the artist rather than the art! I couldn’t put my finger on it before but you’ve articulated that so well
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/21 03:22 PM
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Mustn’t collect weapons as a hobby Mustn’t insert items into his foreskin to make his mates laugh Mattress cannot be over 8 years old No hoarders Run if he thinks he’s worked out how to categorically disprove all religions Mustn’t be a picky eater - especially avoid men who refuse to eat meat when it’s on the bone Run away at any sign of sports/video-game related aggression - ie temper tantrums Avoid men who think they have the option to quit their day job and become an actor - with no form of t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/21 03:19 PM
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Hey, hope you’re doing ok, just checking in now you’ve had a couple of days to digest everything 💜
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/06/21 09:23 AM
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I am so impressed at how clearly you are seeing through the gaslighting and manipulation, you are amazing! I just want to add my support, this will be tough, but you will get through it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/06/21 12:40 PM
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Thanks for this. Over the course of lockdowns and the pandemic I’ve just stopped wearing makeup. But I still have days where I see other people with layers of foundation and contouring and fake lashes and I feel inadequate.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/21 03:57 PM
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I love this, and so well written! I didn’t realise quite how much it had affected me until recently, me and my BF were trying to choose something new to watch, so I picked something with a vaguely interesting description and it turned out to be so bad! I suddenly realised I would have never even been comfortable to make a choice with any of my LVM exes and I would have been belittled so much for something so bad. The way things are now we both laughed about it and picked something else. Also rem…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/21 11:01 AM
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Has anyone watched ‘Say I Do’ on Netflix? It’s like queer eye but with weddings. The episode with Mel and Mattie is giving me strong LVM vibes. When she’s telling him she needs him to be able to step up and make decisions and he comes back with the fact he spent 20 years in the military having everything done for him.... urgh, and when they eventually circle back to the point and she asks him to promise to put more effort it, his eyes dart up and right as he’s saying it. He’s going to carry on e…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/07/20 10:36 AM
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Thank you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/20 01:09 PM
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What is the IG account name? I can’t find it on any of the photos
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/20 12:24 PM
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Right! I thank my lucky stars I was out shopping that day and was not checking my phone, otherwise who knows how far things could have gone before that nasty sour attitude came to light.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 03:28 PM
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Definitely dump the guy. That feeling of his actions being “SO aggravating”, he now knows he’s had that affect on you, if you accept the apology something else will happen because he knows he can get away with it. You deserve better than this old sleaze, and you deserve better than to feel that aggravated by someone you’re romantically involved with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 11:17 AM
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It sounds like terrible advice and comments you’ve had on that sub. Relationships do require work long term, but from both people. You’ve expressed what you want and need and he hasn’t done those things for you. In my own experience I’ve been through the exact same thought process as you in 2 long term relationships, and what I’ve learned is to trust your instinct. It’s not about the grass being greener or the honeymoon ending, it’s about things with that person not being right, and that’s ok. B…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 11:14 AM
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I’m really excited to see the answers to this. I’ve had a few bad dates over the past year, and I think I’ve got pretty good a vetting and recognising when to shut things down, but now I’m seeing someone where it feels really different in a good way. If I tell him I won’t have sex outside of exclusivity then he knows what he needs to say to get some right? Weather he means it or not, it’s like giving him the key. Do we just keep telling them we’re not ready to be physical until they bring up exc…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 11:06 AM
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If you are keeping the idea of an “us” with him, you will be holding yourself back from meeting genuine high value men who want the same thing as you. If you keep the idea of “us” it’s like you’re waiting around for him to be ready. You deserve so much better. He might tick a lot of boxes on your list but not being on the same page about commitment means you 2 do not have compatible values. If he does not want commitment, what is he after, casual sex night after night? A pick-me who gives him th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 10:57 AM
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Lucky for me I can’t think of any from when I was a teenager, but back in January this year a tinder match called me a “buck toothed, frog-eyed c*nt” because I didn’t reply to his message quickly enough. I spent a lot of time researching and considering adult braces after that comment. F~ck that guy, I have a great smile and I love my eyes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/07/20 10:50 AM
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Anyone got any advice on how to act with that Queen energy when a guy treats you right? I’ve a date tonight, he has put a lot of effort in to impress me, which is something I am absolutely not used to, but I know I deserve it. How do I gracefully accept the effort he’s put in?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/07/20 01:16 PM
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This is excellent advice! I would also absolutely say trust your gut. I get the idea of a social media detox, but completely detoxing from your phone? Seems weird, especially during a pandemic where realistically any one of our friends or family members could be taken to hospital at the drop of a hat. It would make more sense to delete the social media apps, maybe news apps and web browser, but cutting off communication from everyone? My instinct is he’s romantically interested in one of these f…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/07/20 01:11 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good location tracking app? I have a first date this weekend, and my best friend wants to be able to check I’m safe. I’ve tried a couple of apps but they all seem to have subscription fees, or the location services access is not quite customisable (eg she shouldn’t have to share her location with the app to be able to monitor my location)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 03:08 PM
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What is the correct way to report? I had a man dm a reply to one of my comments on this sub
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 03:05 PM
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Ooh I thought of another: Fluent in sarcasm = “I am rude and I don’t care if I upset people because I’m unable to hold a genuine authentic conversation”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 11:25 AM
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Urgh I hate “just ask me anything” so much!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 11:24 AM
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Painfully accurate. The eyes glaze over and you realise you could be anyone, he doesn’t care. He’s not in the moment sharing it with you. He’s faraway in some fucked up porn fantasy in his mind
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 09:25 AM
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Right!? I just finished rewatching, I love it so so much. The way she levels up and learns to put herself first. I love all the characters and the way they grow
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 06:59 AM
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Anyone else notice an obscene amount of guys taking selfies in bed, some even pretending to be asleep for it? Makes me howl every time. “This is the view you’ll have when you ride me because I cba to go on top”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 06:54 AM
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I really relate to the part about wanting to keep your space your own. With the levelling up I’ve been doing this year I’ve focused on hobbies, taking care of my mind, my body and my home environment. Because of all the effort I’ve put in my house has come to represent my safe space, and I will not let any man inside until I absolutely trust him (same goes for my body of course - I can’t quite put my finger on it but with everything I’ve been through and the effort I’ve put in to overcome it, my…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/07/20 10:46 AM
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For me if his communication in away leaves me in doubt I’ll walk away. It’s not so much about the amount or his communication personality as to how it makes me feel. Has he put effort into the communication to show he is interested?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 05:14 PM
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Yess!! It’s incredible how differently you see a situation once you are outside of this, and not even just romantic relationships. I’ve experienced this in a professional setting too, looking back I’ve no idea how I found the strength to get through it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 05:06 PM
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I love this! Similarly I’ve found through levelling up I can easily identify if a person is LV and I no longer care what they think of me, it is so freeing
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 10:51 AM
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I know this feeling, don’t worry you’ve got this! Sometimes it can feel like we are doing all the right things to level up and to value ourselves, and as much as we want to not care about these men, rejection still stings. Keep focusing on yourself, and with each man that doesn’t work out you get stronger and you learn more. Remember attention from men is abundant, sexual desire does not mean he values you. A lot of the times it’s just a case of the trash taking itself out. I recently felt like …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 10:43 AM
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This is an excellent observation! And confirmed by so many stories in the comments, got me thinking about my LVM ex. He would toss so violently in bed, like the way a whale does when it swims up to the surface and crashes into the sea, it drove me mad. I was always awake first for my morning routine, I would tiptoe out of the room in the dark, forgo the music I love to listen to in the shower and basically be quiet as a mouse. Meanwhile the odd occasion he had to get up first he would be so nois…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 10:15 AM
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I absolutely struggle with this too, so relatable! I think what has helped for me is really analysing and questioning the feelings, as well as the other options. Last time this happened to me the guy I was crushing on was detached and unavailable, appeared high value but not. Meanwhile I had someone else with high value qualities showing interest and working to impress me. I did some work and reflection and research, and learned about transference and how we are drawn to people who treat us the …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/20 01:03 PM
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My first ever date from OLD, it was 9-ish years ago, we met on POF. I met him in the city centre and he picked a bar, it was incredibly pricey, we purchased separate drinks. After 10 minutes of chat he spotted some friends he knew across the bar and told me he was going to go and say hi for a minute. Fast forward 40 minutes I’m still sitting alone. So unbelievably cringe and awkward. I wish I’d have had the strength I have now, and the knowledge and belief that I deserved better
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/20 12:38 PM
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Omg this is so on the nose. I used to hold a lot of resentment because of this but now I’ve let it go
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/06/20 12:33 PM
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Thank you for sharing this, I’ve read through your replies to other comments, and I can appreciate where you’re coming from, it sounds like a lot of thought and work is going into the healing. As much as some users have said this can be seen as petty, toxic and not the behaviour of a high value woman, I actually kind of love it. I have 2 exes who were porn addicts, they were both so insecure in their own ways and to imagine how they would have reacted to this gives me a good giggle. 9 times out …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/06/20 06:26 PM
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I received a message from a member after I posted about a tough breakup on another sub on my main account. So grateful to whoever it was that brought me here, it has been legitimately life changing. I’ve become acutely aware of who in my life is high-value, and who is not. It has given me such a carefree queen energy in my career and approach to dating
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/06/20 04:23 PM
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He can’t even get the Hunger Games quote right
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/06/20 10:06 AM
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Has anyone seen the post in relationship_advice where a woman has lost it with her man because he told her he prefers fully shaved pubic hair? She has some Queen energy going so far, that guy and all the LV commenters are beyond confused. I hope she dumps him
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 09:56 PM
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Did he use LinkedIn to reach out to you and ask you out? If so that would put me off. That is not what LinkedIn is for. You shouldn’t feel bad that you ignored his follow up request, you chose to prioritise your own safety in the early stages of the pandemic when guidelines for meeting people were not clear. It’s not a great sign that he was not more concerned for yours or for his own safety. My instinct is to leave it and not reply, and I kind of get the impression you might be leaning that way…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 08:37 PM
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Looks like you’ve decided to ship it with no note. I did something similar once after a breakup. Have you blocked and deleted him from social media and your phone contacts? Seeing as you mentioned that you have a frail conscience, it might be good to have him blocked in case he interprets the gesture as an invite for communication (LVM minds work in weird ways)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 08:24 PM
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There’s a phrase/idea that comes up a lot in FDS that has really stuck with me: Sexual attraction from a man does not mean that he values you as a person. The first time I read that it really resonated with me and has stayed with me ever since. Every time I am communicating with a man, this is what’s in my mind, stopping me from getting carried away with emotions and fantasies. Until I have proof, and his actions show that he values me as a person (not just an object to f*ck, or to conquer) then…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 05:31 PM
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Ahhh I am so glad I didn’t marry him. At the start of lockdown I burst out laughing one day at the thought of having to be in that situation with him. I am so much happier alone. He was a PA and towards the end, violent. The proposal was the lowest effort. He was the kind of guy who never pays attention to what anyone else is interested in, if he bought you a birthday gift it was something he liked rather than something he knew you would like. He knew I would like a bit of fuss for a proposal. H…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 02:32 PM
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It’s too bad he only “almost” feels bad enough to give up on this crap. And what’s this “I don’t think what I did was that creepy”. He’s even acknowledging here that it is a bit creepy, and he’s ok with that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/06/20 10:50 AM
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I feel this, definitely enough reddit for today. This makes my skin crawl and gives me nausea. I can’t fathom how both individuals in this relationship have such low respect for themselves
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 01:02 PM
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For me personally I just focus on the feeling, let my mind go blank, consistent deep breathing to maintain blood flow. I don’t imagine a person or a scenario, for me it’s about how it feels
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 10:30 AM
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Wow this is an amazing story! You are an amazing and strong person for the way you’ve stood up for yourself, for recognising he wasn’t going to change, and for all the growth you’ve shown. Enjoy this time for yourself you deserve it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 10:25 AM
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What makes it feel as though he is dragging out the divorce? My gut instinct is to cut things off with this man, and I get the impression your gut might be telling you the same thing. It can be tough to make these choices but so worth it in the long run. The right guy will not leave you wondering about if he is still interested in his ex or not, if you can trust his timelines or not.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 10:24 AM
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It is a natural part of being human for most people to feel aroused and to be interested in sex. Have you tried any vibrators? There are loads of great options for toys rather than casual hookups while you are focusing on levelling up or dating. Be mindful about what you are reading, just because something is in a book or an article it doesn’t make it so. Sometimes it can be helpful to find out about the author and if they have similar beliefs and values to you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 09:33 AM
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You shouldn’t minimise yourself and your voice to impress a man or make him more comfortable. How has this affected female and family relationships, do people engage in healthy debates and discussions with you or do you notice people become quiet and closed off when you talk?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 09:20 AM
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I’m wondering if your job as a cashier is enough to pay the bills and put food on your table, you don’t have to answer this I know that’s personal, I’m just curious if there is any need in your life for you to consider going dumpster diving with this guy. If there is a need for this, maybe check out the female level up sub. I would avoid this man. he is too old to be pursuing any kind of relationship with you. Check out some of the other posts in this sub on age gaps.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 09:14 AM
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You are 100% right that if a guy is interested he will let you know. Is it not illegal where you live to talk on the phone while driving a car or bike? Not only his own life is at risk here but other innocent road users if he loses concentration.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 09:02 AM
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This is great advice, if you ‘need good comebacks’ in preparation to interact with this person they are not a friend. You’ve seen that she can treat another woman the way you want to be treated. You’ve made your boundaries and expectations clear and she has not respected this
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/06/20 08:58 AM
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Make up is a skill, and not an easy one! When someone compliments you, it’s a compliment on that artistic skill rather than your natural appearance. It depends what makeup style you have, but most people know that a person doesn’t naturally have red lips and gold eyelids for example. If a guy thinks your made up face is natural he’s probably a LVM. It’s a really personal choice, if you like wearing makeup and enjoy the process then go for it. But at the same time I understand how the expectation…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/20 08:32 AM
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Have a read of the handbook for a start, the fact that you feel like you need to find a crush probably means you shouldn’t, focus on yourself for a while. Level up and focus on developing your Queen energy. The bit where you said “it usually lasts a long time” suggests that you are not recognising red flags and wasting too much time on each man. If you read the handbook and keep active in this sub you will see how FDS women recognise and deal with red flags
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/06/20 08:23 AM
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You’re doing the right things, keep it up. I’m in a similar place and I know what you mean about the loneliness. Sometimes it gets to me too. When that happens I feel it, usually have a bit of a cry, and I journal, I keep writing and writing until my words turn from sadness to the things I am grateful for. Each moment of loneliness passes. Moments of loneliness are not good places to be in to inspire a new romance. Focus on your body and your home environment. Make it yours. Make your body feel …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/06/20 10:56 PM
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I’ve recently realised the same thing, I have no great examples of healthy relationships that I’ve been part of or exposed to in my life. Mine have all been car crashes one way or another. My parents divorced when I was young, one of them has a new partner and that is not a healthy looking relationship. I’ve been thinking of friend’s and ex boyfriend’s parents but none of them seemed ideal. I would often think to myself “they’d be much better off apart” Then thinking about what we see on tv and …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/06/20 07:15 PM
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I saw a beautiful comment on another post a few days ago about how sometimes we want to do so much for the men we love, like you with your ex boyfriend, and what the person said was to practice changing the focus of that habit to yourself. Think of all the things you would do for your ex, and do those, or equivalent things for yourself. Express love to yourself with acts of kindness to yourself, or gifts for yourself. I know this doesn’t quite help with your family situation, but if you practice…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 04:25 PM
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Looking back at my “last straws” is actually a great indication of what FDS has done for me. A few years ago a last straw was a guy losing his temper over a video game and throwing furniture at me. (6 yr relationship) The next one was when I realised this guy had absolutely no intention of getting a job and moving out from his parents where he (fraudulently) received benefits. (9 month relationship) Check out how different my last straws are since FDS A guy stood me up on our second date without…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/06/20 04:19 PM
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Refused to leave the house because he had a spot on his face and “everyone will be looking”, yeah because you’re that much of a big deal. So I had to do all the shopping, which I conveniently paid for as well. This guy also refused to wear shorts in hot weather but would moan about how hot he was constantly. Violent outbursts caused by video games. Expecting me to drive 30 minutes to pick him up and bring him back to my house so we could spend time together (lived with his mother) Agreed to go 5…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/06/20 02:54 PM
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Met a guy recently who showed great potential. Has a job, own home, well travelled and educated, can drive, looks after himself well. We had 2 dates. But the communication was terrible. He would text and ask me how I am then not even acknowledge my reply til the next day. Then it got a bit longer, almost 3 days between replies and I realise he is not interested and does not care. I assumed he was ghosting but then get a long text starting with “sorry been a bit busy”. I’m sorry “a bit”!? I know …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/06/20 08:56 AM
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This is amazing, thank you so much for sharing! You are very inspiring, I am going to look for some courses with the specific goal of being self sufficient. I love how you’ve found a passion for science and that you’ve set boundaries for your sleeping needs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/06/20 09:31 AM
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What kind of plans did you make for your forever alone, if you don’t mind sharing?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/06/20 12:32 PM
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This is excellent! I love the moth metaphor so much. Definitely what I needed to see this morning. So much of what I see and read has lead to a spiral of blaming myself which I am struggling to break out of right now
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/06/20 08:52 AM
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This is an amazing idea, I love the thought of directing my acts of service and expressions of love to myself rather than to a man. Thank you so much for sharing, I’m inspired
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/06/20 09:44 AM
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Very beautifully put, I love this. I still remember vividly my first real break up, and I cringe at the essays I wrote to him, the begging, the need for answers. I am so glad to be stronger now, to have been able to love and nurture myself. It’s an ongoing journey but now I’m getting good at weeding out the LVM and the block-delete.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/06/20 09:34 PM
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Thanks for the advice, I’ve been unpacking this and I’ve realised a few things: I’ve seen similar comments on a lot of other posts on here where the conversation goes on a lot longer and the woman tries to tell the man what he’s done wrong, and seeing as I wasn’t doing that I thought being polite was ok. On this occasion it was his honesty that surprised me so it felt ok for to end on a polite note. However why do I fee like I need to be polite to some guy who’s trying to take advantage of women…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/05/20 10:16 AM
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Online dating
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:20 PM
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The nice-ness probably won’t last long to be fair but this is where I’m at in my journey and I’m happy with my progress so far. On this occasion there was a kind of politeness to the whole thing from his side, where other matches have been gross and sneaky. Within about 10 minutes of matching we established we were looking for different things, no time wasted, no hurt feelings. However in one of my other replies I’ve mentioned a more extreme example where I had zero tolerance and totally don’t w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:12 PM
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I had one the other day tell me he was looking for a wife, then 2 messages later (TW) it was a disgusting comment about choking me with his fat you-know-what and finishing on my face. Instantly blocked and deleted.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:06 PM
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It sounds like you are nailing FDS and surrounding yourself with the right kind of people. I would have been like that 8 - 12 years ago, and I’ve known other women who would too. There’s also a lot of story arcs in films and sitcoms that show fwb leading to more which can be misleading for some women. I’m glad I’m not that person anymore
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:04 PM
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Did anyone see the front page livestream just now of that poor woman playing music with the reddit trolls bullying and harassing? I am heartbroken for her. I’ve noticed such a huuuuge difference between comments on reddit live-streams by men and those by women. The men seem to get so much more encouragement and support and the women get abuse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:51 AM
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Having spent some time now with an FDS mindset I completely agree, it’s sad to see the amount of women putting up essentially with abuse and even more depressing the amount of men who think that it’s acceptable. That was me not long ago on my main Reddit account and thankfully someone left me a comment recommending FDS and for that I am so grateful! (My main account username contains a word banned by FDS and I received warnings for commenting so created this one) I know I still have a lot of wor…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/03/20 08:24 PM
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I love this advice and it really works for me! Even the ones that seem like they have an hvm have had to coach and mother him to make him what he is and he is mediocre at best.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/03/20 07:41 AM
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It’s been a very surreal series of events. Things were going really well. Then the other day I was pms-ing hard, I didn’t tell him that specifically but I was conscious that my language and tone in messages might be coming across a bit short, so with the aim of clear communication I told him I was not really up for chatting and that I’d be in touch tomorrow. He took this to mean he’d done something wrong so the next day he messages me and suggests that we no longer see each other seeing as we’re…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/20 10:46 PM
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I’m struggling with coming to terms with the fact that the guy who I thought was HV turned out not to be. He showed me his true colours this week and I’m working through the disappointment of it and letting go of the future I was imagining. So now, especially with Corona virus everywhere, I want to focus on myself and levelling up instead of dating, but not sure what to aim for next
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/20 06:43 PM
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I have a LVM as a brother. He’s 27 and still lives between my mum’s and my dad’s houses. He is pornsick and has been for a long time. He has never had a girlfriend. He does have a sex doll. If any girl ever does try to date him I will tell her she can do better because I dread to think how he would treat a real human woman. Sometimes I feel sad for him and the life he has, but he has made his own choices and turned down every offer of support.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/20 06:21 PM
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