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Yes, we can both agree, it must be very difficult to convince a woman to look beyond shallow surface appraisals when it's all you really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:57 PM
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Obviously, Everyday Feminism is just someone's obscure blog, and those of us who read it sometimes meet up for tea. Just a few million folks, it's the quiet intimacy that draws us together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:36 PM
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Very well. Now, you were trying to describe why I should ignore the people who use Tinder for relationships, and those who go to nightclubs to hang out with people they already like vs. simply using them both as a crude meat grinder? Because it looks less like the redpill's actually proved an AWALT cock carousel, and more like it's emotionally invested in the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:28 PM
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For now, we're talking about the people who use Tinder. The less than 1% of the human race, more men than women, who keep it going, for multiple reasons, while also using other dating sites. This doesn't prove anything about a cock carousel, except that men seem to like the idea better than women, and it's causing those who invest in the idea of one to get frustrated with the fact that women clearly have a seller's market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:55 PM
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Wow, look at them unleash the dogs! That powerful group you keep bringing up were a few students and a fire alarm. Oh, right, and all those politicians who do things like politicians do...unless they're masculine men fucking over other men. Then they get a pass from the MRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:35 PM
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women hate being tricked So do men. The rest of your sentence ignores all the women who are fucking their beta boyfriends' brains out. Or calls them liars. Easy to do when you're venting in an echo chamber, but there's no reason for anyone else to rush to sign up for your conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:03 PM
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Tinder has 50 million people per month. There are roughly 300 million people in the US alone. Even if Tinder was exclusively used for short term hook-ups, which it isn't, and they all only regarded their sex partners as a dick, which they don't, you're still speaking of a minority of people. Also, churches are multi-billion dollar too. Many are very against hook-up culture, some to the point of insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:57 PM
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I agree nurture is underrated. Maybe because of the word "nurture"? A lot of people aren't afraid they'll be nurtured to death if they join the outgroup through a failure to adhere to social norms. Night clubs and tinder don't exist in your world? What about casual hookups? Could there be some fallacy of composition at play here? Selection bias? No really, that's not how you disprove such a thing. Just curious, what percentage of the population is going to nightclubs and signing up for Tinder? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:47 PM
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True. But she's one person. Seriously think about that. There are anti-feminists who were feminists. There are anti-MRAs who were MRAs. It's less anyone running victory laps at this point, than an idealogical demolition derby. The reason the manosphere is excited, is because the mainstream's idea of engaging them has been shit like this. With the bar set that low, anything is an improvement. I'm at least hoping more honest portrayals will force them to actually evolve, for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:19 PM
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As defined by who? Anti-feminists with an axe to grind, as they search for more outrage porn to fuel their online slacktivism? I forget, what has the manosphere done about Rick Perry rejecting prison rape reforms? How has publicizing "the pussy pass" helped men who are locked into a system that artificially inflates prison time, and denies them any way to reintegrate into society? And explain how common distortions of sociology, like "alpha fucks/beta bucks" theories (Because common long term re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 12:09 PM
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We were talking about people calling a redpill user a liar for sharing personal information about his own partner. Anecdotal data, of that nature. Presented here. In this subreddit. Do I need to write a legal contract for you to understand context?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:51 PM
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No, seriously, 5th and I were talking about a subject, and you pointed to me mirroring exactly what he did (after acknowledging his individual statements were true and only disagreeing with his conclusion) as a problem. It's a pretty objective test for you failing to be objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:39 PM
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No, you're just out of the loop. For example - This is what me and 5th were arguing over. Now, there are two ways you can handle being out of the loop. You can ask questions, like an adult, or you can wave your partisan flag high, and attack the person you disagree with. Choose wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:28 PM
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They're all based on me arguing with redpills who aren't speaking of personal anecdotal data, and reference works cherry picking social science studies or, who, like 5th, is cherry picking a self report from a woman in order to paint his personal narrative about her. The data objectively exists regardless of their personal opinions on it's validity. I'm looking for me calling someone a liar, about their own direct experience. And not as a defense against someone calling me a liar because I dared…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:05 PM
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Before I say anything else, thank you for this post. It's why I keep coming here. My apologies, for confusing your motivations with those who won't give me a genuine conversation. Your posts have often been helpful, and I really don't give posters like you enough credit, sometimes. Even if we often disagree... Unfortunately... I have no common frame of reference with redpill posters. I don't know who speaks for what, on a lot of issues that aren't covered by the redpill's founders. I can't alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:37 PM
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Show me? If I've been a complete dick in the heat of the moment, I may need to give someone an apology. My argument has always been that there are many different types of sexual strategy, and that the redpill focuses on just one, to the exclusion of all others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:55 PM
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So, did you deliberately forget that I was called a liar about what I typed? Interesting. Don't respond to it, I'm a liar. Give in, I'm a butthurt attention whore. Add to the discussion, by questioning what kind of subreddit the redpill prefers vs. what one some of it's users think it has.... And, judging from the votes, I'm a lying butthurt attention whore. Of course, defending myself against any of these attacks is whining. :D It's a beautiful pissed off circlejerk. Guess my comparing the redp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:05 PM
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How is it cool to tell a redpill that their partner is a fantasy? I don't see how that could be construed as a personal insult though. "You're a liar who made up your partner. Nobody who looks that good, acts that good, would want to go out with someone like you." It says a lot about your mental state that you're okay with this as a debating tactic. Suddenly, we can just dismiss anyone whose anecdotal data upsets us, unless they invite everyone to a skype chat, and doxx themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 12:55 PM
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Finally, downvoting people who reply to you is also breaking a sub rule. So if you aren't going to follow rules here, you shouldn't appeal to mods to enforce them for you. It's even more hypocritical. Nobody stopped anyone from downvoting me. I didn't report anyone for it. Haven't you noticed moderation is broken here? And it's not just me being called a liar. How is it cool to tell a redpill that their partner is a fantasy? Do you even care how disgusting that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:42 PM
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Pretty much, so, wanna show me where I actually lied? Or are you just going to join in on the circlejerk? Show me exact words. And none of this "different interpretations are now obvious lies." weasel words bullshit I've come to expect lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:20 PM
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From an insult to hate speech now? Don't mind me. I'll just be documenting your every distortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:11 PM
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Or the manosphere doesn't absorb information well and we tire of repeating the same conversations?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:06 PM
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No, I observe calling people liars in a debate subreddit is a blatant insult. I observe that you've accused me of encouraging everything from locking up men who can't pay child support to betraying rape survivors, because nuance offends you, and it's easier for you to make up what you want me to say. And if we're going to resort to insults now, you've been behaving like a child. You represent the failure of the manosphere. You make every disagreement personal. You always dive for the worst possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:58 PM
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You really don't seem to understand how it's working. The Youtube comments, for example, are patrolled. Opposing comments are covered with an instant reply and follow-up circlejerk. Your theories of sexual selection are limited. You cherry pick what works for men with pretty shit empathy, advocate a fairly mainstream conservative sexual strategy, then pretend you've uncovered a great truth instead of acknowledging how hard you're working to cover up the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:23 PM
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I'm not British. I'm not sure how you got that idea? And you're misunderstanding something - many of the redpills I've seen really do believe that they welcome speech that offends them, challenges them. They wonder why feminists do the exact same thing they're doing, with no self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:09 PM
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Odd. I'm the one who keeps asking for neuroscience and specific biology to the redpill's soft science evolutionary psychology. I keep asking why we need dogmatic interpretations of the data...? And you really have no idea how easy it is to encounter the redpill's official company line outside of your subreddit. They spam Youtube. They spam /r/short. /r/deadbedrooms. I even found the "betas can't get laid" mentality on the news after a shooting. Which is curious, since betas as incels is an inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:07 PM
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Honestly, I'd have no troubles with any of this at all, if so many in the redpill didn't sell itself as a larger voice than it really is, or pretend to be defending the first amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:59 PM
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So is abortion. So are contraceptives. So, really, fucking alone doesn't determine who moves on to the next generation. A lot of failed alphas who don't have any long term beta traits are being weeded out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:52 AM
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So, basically, you're too offended to debate about the dangers of echo chambers, since I really can't be bothered to give a shit about what passes for redpill political correctness. Thank you for your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:46 AM
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Wait. What? Why the fuck wouldn't they? Are they really shits about this kind of thing? Have you reported them? Can you link me to posts, so I can report them, just so it's on the record?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:17 AM
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Something seldom talked about, is those with less common wants are facing a market that doesn't advertise to them, where what they want may be trying to conceal everything that appeals. I was linked this article, when I presented common redpill SMV evaluations to a younger woman who plans to Domme me. Check out what's happening in the comments section.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:13 AM
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I really need to hear the answers to these.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:53 AM
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That's fine. People don't seem to understand that I'm not offended by my ban. But here's the thing: I was called a liar for reporting what I wrote. None of the mods stepped in - here. That's the important thing. But I needed to make this about more than me, and just my ban. So, there's the question of why anyone was surprised I was banned? Some people really believed the redpill was a place where men could just vent, without any censorship. And, sorry, but no - it's a place where an angry minori…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:48 AM
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The redpill is very PC in a hyper-masculine libertarian kind of way. You just proved it by your emotional reaction to it being called a "Safe space". It's very selective in what kind of anger it allows, so that it's a safe place for some men to express some ideas, and not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:39 AM
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I am attacking a type of behavior which you happen to engage in You made an accusation. I've brought up an issue. Now we're going to talk about it. The redpill isn't about a free speech zone that represents men exchanging any and all ideas to find out which ones work best. It's not a place for angry men to vent. It has an agenda. It wants very specific answers. Very specific anger. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:32 AM
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Depends on the individual. I'm 40. She's 23. We share common interests in the art of storytelling, struggle with similar abuse issues, and we're completely honest with each other. Plus...compatible kinks, since this subreddit cares way more about that part... Anyways, I can't argue for not being shallow, then turn around and suddenly tell her: "Sorry, but the redpill wants more of this kind of thing, and their approval is making me feel ill." Our ages aren't really ideal for either one of us, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:21 AM
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How about that rule where we don't attack posters? Did you forget about the part where that one was forgotten? I was repeatedly accused of lying about what I posted. Some redpills couldn't imagine I'd be banned for that post. And the reason is because the redpill talks about an anger phase. The redpill argues that we need to let men express that anger phase, no matter what it has to say. The exact opposite of a safe space. So... it's been clear from the start that those ideals are full of shit. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:03 AM
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After the divorce, she raised us all by herself, and she didn't fuck around with guys who only wanted one thing, and weren't shy about making it clear what it was. She was a single mother. Also - I'd probably be better off today, if I hadn't met my dad at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:02 AM
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SRS is a circlejerk. You were banned for breaking the jerk, same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:26 AM
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Actually, my dad had schizophrenia. The kind that Hollywood loves. Religious iconography. Paranoia. Disassociative identity disorder. Violent. Mom left him to keep us safe. There was no way she could have known he would suffer from mental illness - he was the child of a rape. The medicine that eventually gave him was mind back wasn't available when it happened. They never fell out of love. When my father was back...really back, they were remarried. By then, cancer kept him in constant pain. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:25 AM
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Of course it does. I'm banned there, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:17 AM
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Mine was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 03:21 AM
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It's not him. It's the support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 03:21 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 03:20 AM
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She's putting on an act. This is her Jessica Rabbit social mask. Only an idiot would assume this is on the level. There might be something here, but there's no way she's interested in someone like me. I'll just ignore it, and maybe she'll get bored and go away? I'm probably just reading way too much into this. See 3. Get the hell out of there. Beat self up later. This is why I hang out with people who don't let me complete that cycle, and who make sure I know what they're up to before they do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 03:17 AM
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But we're talking about the redpill, who are. Edit: And I'm not sure that mass brigading from the manosphere counts as a fair exchange of ideas, but whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:42 AM
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Got it. You seem offended that 2x wanted to be safe place, despite the mods forcing the issue. Or that deadbedrooms was supposed to be a neutral zone, and not a recruitment center for a hate group stuck in the anger phase? I'll give you the MRAs. Still... Guess manspreading really is an issue... At least from a certain type of man. At least, suddenly, you understand why feminists need to ban so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:34 AM
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If it was more dedicated to shitting on small businesses and indies, and really cared about short term shareholder appraisals more than long term happiness? Yeah, I'd call that whoring yourself out for corporate interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:30 AM
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Like this? Same combative attitude. Same result. But one ban wasn't so popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:19 AM
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I don't intend to debunk all of EP. It was more to highlight that it's a soft science still, filled with guesswork. Are you familiar with the history of early psychology? For example, it's tendency to explain culture through biology? Label runaway slaves as mentally ill? Use mental illness to explain homosexuality, and sexually assertive/aggressive women? What I see in evolutionary psychology are familiar growing pains. And, of course, a lot of gullibility about self-reporting. For example - whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 02:05 AM
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Can you see it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:59 AM
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Except... I used to hang out at 2x, years ago, and it was a great place where we understood each other. Then it began to attract the manosphere. Then it became a default. Now, it's no longer so safe. The redpill can be found jerking off in men's rights, making it difficult for sexual assault survivors to be taken seriously, except as a sometimes useful attack on feminism. The redpill was invading dead bedrooms, circlejerking away... But just little old me, agreeing that women might want to fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:59 AM
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Can you see it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:37 AM
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OH! Apologies, I can see it. Hang on...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:02 AM
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Over there. Some redpills believe their subreddit doesn't ban the way others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:57 PM
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I was banned after I posted that. They didn't give me a lot of details to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:52 PM
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Examples would be if you were talking with her and sitting next to you, she would rub your leg with her hand softly. That's obvious? We have different definitions. To me, obvious is if I can't pretend it's something else. It's why I'm in so much trouble in my other window. She doesn't want to be friends. She doesn't want to be lovers. And she says she's thinking with her genitals. It doesn't give me much room to maneuver.... I wish there really was a blue pill advice subreddit, to help me out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:49 PM
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Symmetry in terms of penis size to body size. Height was an issue. The article reported previous experiments involving penis size. Why don't you ask the author which ones they're referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:44 PM
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If you don't want Passive aggressive much? Why not simply prove I'm lying? Go on, nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:40 PM
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I mocked an experiment which failed to account for all variables. You asked for a link. I provided one. How much homework are you expecting me to do for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:33 PM
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So...wait. I was headed for life as an incel before Ritalin, and got kinky as hell with it there to help me focus, and this is evidence that therapy has me in a chokehold? I'll admit they were terrible at getting me laid, but Christ, they absolutely hated my "Die a virgin" plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:29 PM
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All of the statements you make are technically true. It's your conclusion that's misleading. Now, explain why you're cherry picking data? I can play that game too. Let's see what you can admit - He initiated sexual contact without warning. He was fucking her, as best he could. She was screaming in her head to get out of there. She felt powerless. She emphasized all of this in her speech, many years later. There is no criminal mindset, there is no active criminal behavior, on her part. She's a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:22 PM
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You have a unique username. So do I. It's not hard to find us in a thread together. Do you not understand how search engines work?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:14 PM
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She didn't fuck him. He was fucking her. I'm not the one who claimed she was screaming at herself to get out of there, that was her. I looked up her sexual history, and that's how I found out she was a rape survivor. All it did, was provide perspective on the rest. she found it funny She's a comedienne. It's her job. You should hear the jokes other comedians have made about the shit that happens to them. Do you need links?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:07 PM
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I know you are lying about several of your interactions with me (source: this thread). You've provided evidence for every defense I've made. I try to raise awareness about PTSD and emotional trauma, sharing my personal experiences. You are offended and compare me to Mattress girl. I bring up the problems with "financial abortion", and you avoid many of the issues I actually bring up, in favor of some character assassination. You accuse me of making things personal, while making things personal. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:01 PM
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Including, remember, men who are nearly blackout drunk being taken advantage of by sober women. Yes, if we define taking advantage of him as entering his room, and not leaving as soon as he initiates sexual contact. Despite screaming at herself to leave, and exhibiting common signs of shock, like dreamlike thinking. Nevermind how rape survivors are likely to behave in that situation. How are you not writing a blank check for drunks to take advantage of people? "Oh, well sure, she froze up, your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:53 PM
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Yes, there are shitty people who identify as feminists. Not sure why that makes us special. make it personal Like you're doing right now? if femini Because it's impossible to tell the difference between a sex positive intersectional and a random politician trying to scare you into voting for them? Or, for that matter, any random Tumblr? I believe that's true for the manosphere. It's my entire complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:41 PM
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I like the part best where you can just pop in at random, claim I believe whatever you want, call me a chronic liar when I argue with you, and the rules against personal attacks just don't count whenever you're involved. So much for an objective debate subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:37 PM
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You argued that me not sexually assaulting someone suffering from a PSTD flashback was mind reading, and impossible for all the men who manage to not ever do it. Do you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:31 PM
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Hint: Strange women don't hand you their number and bring up the subject of going out together because it's how they learned to be friends on Sesame Street.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:29 PM
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Also, men who are both asexual and aromantic. And it's probably impossible to measure men who really don't give a fuck about social validation, because they tend to either be more successful, or more arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:59 PM
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Have you tried using Reddit's search system? How much time am I supposed to dedicate to this search? Apparently, anyone can just pop in here, ignore the rules and call me a liar, and I'm supposed to set aside time to encourage this bullshit, or they win? I know why I was banned. I was an asshole who called them disposable sex toys. I'm not pissed because I was banned, I'm just observing it's hypocritical considering what they call other people, and their demands that we get rid of political corr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:56 PM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:51 PM
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Here's an idea - why don't you use Reddit's shitty search system, and tell me how you see it? I'll admit to calling them "disposable dildos" or some such, which is just as offensive as the things they call single mothers, but I thought part of the charm of the place was that you didn't need to be politically correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:48 PM
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MRAs, on the other hand, love their false accusations. Since they're part of the manosphere, it counts against the redpill. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:43 PM
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Like the time you pretended I was in favor of men being locked up for an inability to pay for child support? Then there was this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:21 PM
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That's a creative use of calling out "No true Scotsman". I never said they weren't feminists. And it allowed you to dodge the point being made too. Do you want to try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:18 PM
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Submissives in general are only submissive to someone who earns our submission. Not sure why you'd think otherwise. I've had just as much practice ending breaking up with people as most anyone else here. Read the wiki page How do you think I found the critics? If you want me to be more specific about my own misgivings - The title of the book is a strawman. So is the "noble savage", which I guess he got from his Pocahontas/Dances With Wolves/Avatar marathon. And Ghost in the Shell? C'mon, even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:15 PM
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Except male dominated relationships are a minority of relationships. You guys don't go for whatever is the best tool, you go for "What gives an angry man with poor social skills the best chance?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:57 PM
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Sure women date down. If men represent both the highest and the lowest, as many in the manosphere claim, with women in the middle, some women will be forced to date down. Especially once they hit "The Wall". (Makes spooky fingers.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:50 PM
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Actually, I did read the critics. What else am I supposed to do, when there's no bookstore nearby and you haven't linked me to the book itself? chat to RPW What makes you think I haven't talked to any? Or read their subreddit? They're submissive women. I can relate to them way more than I do most of the people linked here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:44 PM
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Just curious - what is evo psych's explanation for why popular evo psych is obsessed with giant cocks? Is it too much porn, or the domination of socially awkward men driving the field? The best study so far, by which I mean the most unintentionally hilarious, revealed that women most preferred giant penises on giant men, so long as every other possible trait was removed from the equation, including texture mapping. They didn't care about them anywhere else. It's almost like the women were select…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:40 PM
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Ah, right, all branches of feminism, and everyone in them, counts against all feminists. Very well. At least feminists aren't shooting people, the way anti-feminists in their anger phase do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:16 PM
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I was banned from the redpill, because I observed that their beliefs made it easy for women who wanted to use them as disposable sex toys, in response to an article where a woman admitted using them as disposable sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:06 PM
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It'd be great if the blue pill better understood dominant and submissive personalities. I've had perfectly decent conversations with some really good redpill women who could keep an open mind about what works for other people, in marked contrast to most of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:00 PM
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But.... Just what is this "opposite problem" you talk of ? Women in toxic male dominated relationships, where they protest that they're equal until a few questions reveal that he has her ovaries in his backpack. I know you guys struggle to deal with the fact that we're not a matriarchy, but it really shouldn't be this difficult to catch up with the rest of us. Then send them RPW's way. Thats what they do :) Make excuses for toxic male dominated relationships? Trap men who want love in relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:44 PM
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You're going to use Justin Bieber doing the exact same thing Miley Ray Cyrus did as proof that the redpill is right? Clearly, what the world wants is celebratory smut as reward for their steadfast dedication to sexual repression. 50 Shades If we're weighing in on BDSM fantasy, I'll just point out that more people watched "The Passion." true blood Funny you should mention that one. It also has scenes where the men are being raped by the women. Did you just fast forward past those parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:22 PM
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I'd say many described as "male dominated" aren't really male dominated, similarly many self-described as egalitarian won't be egalitarian. How did they arrive at those figures? Self-reports, again. Unfortunately - It's difficult to find completely accurate hard data, outside of actually involving yourself in as many lives as possible, and even then, directly observing the data is going to change it. A further problem is that feminist and redpill is going to automatically sort out who trusts us,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:09 PM
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We're just evil people who make it all up in order to bewitch the minds of the good and noble redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:41 PM
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Oh, sure, because psychiatrists/therapists never deal with clients completely reading way too much into their beta behaviors. Boy bands? Alpha as fuck. They eat gangster rappers for breakfast - it's why so many kids are into K-Pop, these days. And the Dr. Who fandom is probably only beta men, given how special he makes his companion feel, in the great big universe. And of course, it's fun hanging out with Dommes and listening to them complain about the lack of honest beta behavior among male sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:38 PM
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There's a surprise. You're incredibly wrong, because you lowball how many relationships are male dominated. Roughly 40%. And while it's true those relationships report slightly more sex overall (Once more per month), high testosterone dominant, where high T is socially encouraged to go for as much sex as possible, is going to do that. I've been in relationships with high T women that also featured more sex than average. (Judging on competitive drive, high libido, persistence when discouraged, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:22 PM
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On one hand, women have much less testosterone. On the other, Women are much more sensitive to testosterone. C'mon, this is all pretty basic. If you can't even know the basics, why should I trust you on anything else? By the way, I haven't lacked for compliments, or sexual harassment. Maybe you're doing it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 04:03 PM
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Well, 45% of women will experience some hair loss. But I'm more curious about why the redpill ignores statistics like the more than 60% of women who aren't in male dominated relationships? Hamster away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:57 PM
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How curiously judgmental. "Let's talk about amoral sexual strategy - as long as my boner isn't freaked out by it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 04:03 PM
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It's...easy to subvert her, if you can find bold Victorian men to help you past your undesired inhibitions, no matter what sex they really are. Note: communication, soft limits/hard limits, safe words, aftercare, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 03:36 PM
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Alone on the Strange is suggesting more forms of competition, however. Intellectual honors would give some a boost. So would more artistic challenges, for that matter. Boosting social skills will help everyone. And psychological help is useful, if that help has some standards applied to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 10:27 AM
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Wait...does this mean signing up for Reddit to get advice just made things worse for me? Because all it did was make me angry, and question everyone and everything...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:54 AM
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So, if I understand your terms properly - My alpha: High intelligence. Verbal wit, and charm. Self-discipline. Professional level creative talents. (Even if my disease has been taking them away from me.) Scaring the living shit out of shallow people, just to entertain myself. Humiliating terrible Doms. Allowing people to audition for me, rather than me asking them out, and taking that for granted? And my beta would be... Being good with kids. Being a good listener. Patience. Compassion. My handi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:41 AM
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Apologies, but I asked about your first successful approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:13 AM
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Interesting. I tend to hang out more with other social introverts, and gender flipped LGBT circles. Especially if they can express their thoughts in a paragraph or short story form. Meeting offline tends to happen only when there's already an attraction. So, it really is more about individual personalities and preferences, rather than the larger demands of a subculture?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:40 AM
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Hahahaha, flattery will get you everywhere. This is why the redpill should stop any and all pretenses towards advocating for male rape survivors. "Well, your honor, the jury has come back with a verdict: On the question of hot or not, we find the defendant is hotter than the plantiff, and we'd like to ask her for a phone number!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:34 AM
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There are some people (me) who only talk to women when they want to sleep with them. And you'd be amazed how many of you there are. It seems like a reliable part of making friends on the internet is eventually comparing notes about folks just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:21 AM
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It's curious. Autistic women have masculinized brains, closer to cis men. Men and women with higher testosterone levels tend to score higher in persistence, in ways both good and bad. There are men and women damaged by unwanted sexual harassment from people they're otherwise attracted to. There are men and women who think sexual harassment from people they're attracted to is a compliment. And so on. I've not even covered intersex, or transgender. But your innovative idea appears to be a binary c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:19 AM
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I'm not arguing she's not part of the problem. I'm arguing he's contributing too. I've been in a similar situation. A friend verbally consented, but her voice was distant, emotionless. We stopped then and there, because checking in with her was more important, and the sex could wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 02:23 AM
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Apparently, we're using different definitions of alpha and beta. Can you list what traits you consider beta? Beyond what a blue pill would see just by glancing in the redpill subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 02:18 AM
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For example, some redpills tell me creativity is worthless, which is nice. Also, wrong. It may reflect on their creativity. It may mean they're shit at flirting unless it's all surface level... But they're wrong. Objectively wrong. And I know that creativity is something traditional masculinists can use to get laid too. So there's no reason for the redpill not to know this. I realized there was a larger problem, when I finally opened up earlier about the things that were helping me, creativity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 09:08 PM
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I addressed the RP's claim to explore all possibilities, not it's preferences for 'functional generalizations' and aggressive hypermasculine self-caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:50 PM
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Other redpills are complaining about prolonging the anger phase and turning it into hate. If you were as intellectually honest as you claim, you'd take it up with them, instead of whatever you were trying to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:47 PM
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Keep in mind, the people actually commenting are a minority who've already given this more thought than average. With that said, I've seen redpill terms and the anger phase pop up in other locations. Most people are not great actors. If they're upset, some people will pick it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:45 PM
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And the Red Pills are even more pathetic: They’re not even pretending to be the man they want to be, they’re pretending to be the man a woman wants them to be. How it looks to me, when the redpill men and the redpill women, claims that you need to be their definition of alpha. There's a difference between simply showing some vulnerability, and being a broken black hole. In any adult relationship, you'll need to support each other. But the redpill preaches that you can't lower your defenses. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:08 PM
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The woman who makes me blush, isn't looking for a reflection. More like the Yin to her Yang. I'm not sure why the RP has trouble admitting most of us aren't extreme outliers with gender traits, and some of us who are, are wired in the opposite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:53 PM
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Bitter rage. It's not there among the intellectuals, who preach zen acceptance, but when you claim men are disposable and women can't be trusted, it's like pouring napalm on the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:51 PM
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But some people are screwdrivers, who like to get into other people's heads. Would you say that being attractive is bad in the kink community? No, of course not. But one of the most desired women I met was pissed off at shallow people, and did everything she could to communicate an "I don't give a fuck." She ended up looking like a bald tribal George Washington. It didn't help. Her "I don't give a fuck." only ever made sure she was going to attract everyone who liked the confidence and the power…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:40 PM
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If you can't read tone or her face, and don't know that some people are conditioned, to the point where they find themselves moving in automatic response, or just allowing bad things to happen. It's why communication is important, and you don't just assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:49 PM
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Okay, so I've been told that female dominant relationships don't work, and that they're the source of my unhappiness. I'm told I need to lead, even though it's not who I am. I'm more than comfortable with being emotional support, so long as I get some in return... And I'm given many opportunities for things to become sexual. Too fast. Because... Anyways - I hang out with BDSM folks who are into femdom, or switches who like to mix things up. Or creative people who just like combining sex and thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:40 PM
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Right, forgot - surface beauty counts for way more than intelligence, sense of humor, or strength of character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 06:17 PM
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Violent just describes the force of the sexual repulsion. Kind of like how you guys feel for more dominant women, or RPW feels towards emotionally vulnerable men? There are people for everyone. I'm trying to phrase how other sexual markets see what the redpill subreddit is offering...it lowers your SMV? But it's difficult to do, because some of us really don't even like sex being isolated by itself... And doing so, completely destroys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:56 PM
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Your universal trends of attraction are gender based, even for gender flipped and equality groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:36 PM
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Like Pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:11 PM
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Feminists disagree about a lot of things. This is why the generalizing about us, and the stereotyping, is really backfiring on the idiots doing it. Some feminists want more options for women who aren't old Lara Croft. Some feminists want better storytelling. Some want more ethical storytelling. Some just want to kick ass, and look good doing it. These do not all have to be present in Lara Croft. She needs some personality flaws, to even be interesting. And purely reactionary characters seldom in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:04 PM
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Or whatever emotions she's feeling when she feels powerless to say "No." If she's suddenly as enthusiastic as a slave, looks like she's been abused before... by your jump to surprise porn, the mood completely broken, why aren't you to blame for ignoring it? Do you really think she's aware that all that's going to happen, before it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:53 PM
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It's complicated. There's way more acceptance of LGBT in some places, which inspires reactionaries elsewhere. Those who are the exact opposite of gender stereotypes were allowed to express ourselves...and turned out to be just as noble or just as messed up as the rest of humanity, which inspires another backlash... Plus, people love to generalize over abstract concepts, and project like Hell. The right is arguing with the extreme left, the left is arguing with the extreme right, and the sensible…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:39 PM
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You're confusing a few things. There are sex negative and sex positive feminists. If you can't figure that one out, you don't belong in a debate subreddit, because it's a pretty huge thing. Sex positive feminists would actually prefer that women's breasts look more realistic - like they'd actually been touched by someone on the design team, at some point in their lives. Got that? Some of us want to make your videogames way kinkier than they already are. We'd still like more options for non-revea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:42 PM
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This scientist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taylor_(scientist) Don't see anything about him quitting his job. And many feminists thought his apology was a good one. We just hated the shameless bullshit anti-feminists used him for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:32 PM
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Can you explain why someone who can't read terror in the eyes of another and who just randomly demands sexual satisfaction without a clue what they're asking from other people, should be allowed to run like a hurricane through life? I know toddlers generally support the "Natural disaster" theory of social interaction, but most of us grow past it. Some sense of self-awareness, and an awareness of others is why we have civilization in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:18 PM
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Sighs. I'll stop playing dumb then, and answer the spirit of the question, instead of the letter. While everyone else was struggling with puberty on their own, my suicide attempt meant I was forced to endure socialization and communication classes in a partial hospitalization program. Reading body language, helping people express their intended message... It probably wouldn't mean a thing. Except. Curious about puberty forcing me to have erotic fantasies? I studied thousands of them, because I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:53 PM
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I'm as tall as you can be, and still be considered short by almost everyone. 5'6''. Average looking face (bites down urge to provide my own, much more negative opinion) but I have instincts and responses that some people think are adorable as Hell. My new nickname is "The blushing bride", apparently... Intelligent? There are many forms of intelligence. And we both know IQ is a questionable measure. Besides, what does it have to do with SMV? Plenty of very dumb people are having sex, even as we s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:20 PM
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How did you leap to deciding that two physically unattractive people aren't attracted to each other? Because I've seen the completely batshit insane definitions used here to declare people unfuckable, and they're unintentional self-satire. I can assure you, there are millions of people happily bumping uglies by that definition, whether or not your gag reflex approves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:59 PM
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you're not exactly describing the positives and your advantages here. How would I? Apparently, anything anyone says good about me, reflects badly on my character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:53 PM
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Have you experienced that? An "egalitarian" relationship where, say, you're always asking her to go out with the boys, but there is an assumed right for her to go out with her friends, say. No, actually, that one's something that's an intellectual understanding, at best. Especially since all my closest friends are women, and most men and I end up struggling to understand each other, long term, once they don't need any emotional support. Female dominant can be a very unpleasant place to be, as yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:52 PM
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BP - some people who believe anything are assholes. I can't stand BP men and women who have a redpill plate spinning strategy, but who don't want to admit it. Their tortured rationalizations are why sex positive feminism has such a bad reputation. TBP - I. The vague. I've linked the empathy vs. analytical thought article about a thousand times on Reddit, but it's infuriating watching my side reduce everything to "The Force." I imagine it's like Obi Wan Kenobi said to Han Solo "You can do space m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:25 PM
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Some of us obsess over not becoming like them. And do you know how disgusting it is to have to rate what that does for my "SMV"? All I will say is, it helps if you can legitimately pass the tests. And even anti-feminist women are way more understanding about it, if the anti-feminist men they're with are treating them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:09 PM
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Does this help? It's written for the lay public, but shouldn't be too bad. At the very least it explains some of the more romantic forms of arousal, from a concrete neurological point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:46 AM
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Why would anyone listen to me? The information is already out there. It doesn't seem to have made a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:33 PM
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All I gotta do is point to the right orbitofrontal cortex (emotions), the right insula (subjective perception of things like your heart), and the right caudate nucleus (judgement), then wonder why so much of EP is based entirely on ignoring them if your at a glance SMV scouter readings are high/low enough. Any theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:42 PM
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Me? Indifference? Ha, I wish. But sex wasn't my top priority, ever. Even if it might help me deal with my fear of sex, I'd turn it down if the offer wasn't enthusiastic, or it required me to wear a mask. And I was always more fascinated with people's minds - their sense of humor, their imagination, their memories, and their dreams. Until I came to Reddit, I had no idea how all that kept turning into mutual kink. I wish I could forget. It's too tempting to try to manipulate people into not wantin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:33 PM
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Ah. My apologies, I've met too many who actually feel the way you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:24 PM
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So, I found out what they really say about ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX, LOL AWALT!! Women in relationships know that their feelings about their partner can vary from day to day. However, most women probably do not realize that fertility-related hormone processes operating outside of their awareness might contribute to these changes. As we have shown here, on the crucial few days on which conception can occur, women evaluate their partners differently, apparently raising their standards for sexual desirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:14 PM
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Or, you could pass the information on to everyone who needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:47 PM
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It's respecting the man for having the qualities to attain such a woman. Better a sociopath who gives you tingles than someone who only makes me happy? Okay...you're creepy as Hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:43 PM
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I didn't even know they'd decided people protesting them were open game for the internet to stalk and harass. Guess they really aren't serious about taking the high road.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:39 PM
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(951) 320-1370 Go to them. They believe men are violent more often than women, due to women calling the cops more, and men putting more women in the hospital, but they emphasize that they're serving all victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:37 PM
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Guess Register-Her never happened in your parallel universe. Tell me more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:35 PM
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Paul Elam has a history of openly doxxing women he doesn't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:19 PM
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Curious, how social workers are trained to identify a primary aggressor and have programs for violent women, but you guys are still fighting a war against second wave radical feminism. When Doc Brown offered you the keys to the Delorean, were you just so eager to travel back to the 80's-90's that you forgot how bad things really were?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:17 PM
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Reddit doesn't like doxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:07 PM
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If I couldn't talk about human sexuality, why would I be here? But given all my handicaps, and the fact that I did a horrible job of remaining chaste despite them... While other people with far fewer handicaps failed using a redpill strategy - maybe a conquest mentality isn't always the best approach? Yes, if you're dominant, go with that - there are some women looking for it. But don't assume it's a universal key that opens all locks. If I could find the link I was given by another redpill - ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:55 PM
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I take medicine - without it, I wouldn't have gotten this far. Unfortunately, it's effects are complicated... And what advice does that community give for pushing through it and out the other side ? Have you been following it ? They generally give the same advice as people working with PTSD/Phobias. Gradual exposure, at my own pace, to what triggers my phobia/memories, with people I can trust to rewrite the association. It takes time. And patience. It's just...frustrating. There's zero family su…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:36 PM
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Ah. Well. This is going to be a problem for your sexual strategy, isn't it ? Strategy? I'm a sex positive feminist - I'm pretty much required, by law, to be as sex positive as humanly possible even while having a panic attack. Some people think that's cute. And not in a platonic way... Are we talking properly freaking out phobia level fear It feels like I'm having a heart attack. Or going insane. It hurts. But do you know how hard it is to avoid everything sexual around other people? At least in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:01 PM
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Well, that isn't a useful attitude to have is it ? I hope you're already over this one. Yeah. If nothing else, I owe her for finally curing me of my blind optimistic trust in others. Shouldn't you be facing down and conquering your fears YOURSELF ? Kind of impossible, when my phobia is a fear of sex, or more specifically, a fear of being aroused around other people. Or them being aroused around me. Or them even seriously thinking about having sex with me. It's like, I've already conquered my fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:43 PM
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So you wern't actually raped ? She said I raped her. If there weren't witnesses to all our time together, if she hadn't confessed before I ever heard about it? How'd you keep getting in these situations ? "She likes to scare the shit out of me! It must mean she's trying to help me face my fears." It's no good relying on others. You knew it was true. Why the need to convince others? Because... I don't know. Doesn't it bother you, when people call you a liar? Even when you see liars on tv getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:14 PM
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Medical professionals. They've been a constant part of my life, since I was a child. I keep calling you snowflake as you keep seeming to have the impression that what you are doing is rare. It's not. This is basically how about 80% of guys operate. If you ignore the street/internet harassment and slut shaming? Do you just live in Mr. Roger's neighborhood? Plus, the ever popular "I don't care about your looks." way to keep the conversation on someone's looks. Some try to cover their agenda with c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:01 PM
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The most frustrating thing about redpill philosophy is that it claims to be a philosophy. Also, a hard science. And while I don't doubt it's often hard, I question whether anything that religiously cherry picks mass market science reporting in order to justify it's own sexual identity counts as an intellectual discipline. Seriously, the internal contradictions are frustrating. How can they claim women are only turned on by a good alpha jackhammer, then argue they also represent male sexual assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 12:43 PM
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For starters, don't call it Beta Bux. I tried that one, way back when I had money, and was an idiot. Turns out "Don't buy me expensive things" doesn't really mean "I'm too shy to ask." I wish I could go back in time, and take back all my mistakes...but there's no reset button. And then there was the woman who paid for my hotel, my meals, and lovely gifts, who claimed we could have a nice long term relationship if I'd just ignore questions about why she was only offering me one night stands in ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 11:52 AM
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I said some of us didn't compromise our morals, despite you claiming that we needed to....and yes, some of us really took studying and more important, practicing our ethics, hardcore. Especially in kink sites, that's pretty unique, unfortunately. So much so, that it counted in my favor. The exact opposite of what you claimed would happen. It helped compensate for when I was scared. It helps me get into relationships long before I'm ready. The fun part is where you claim it's only good for long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:56 AM
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Just curious - how many misogynistic assholes on the net do you think can throw their hate into a beautiful flow? Well enough to get paid for it, I mean? Also, most people take those raps about as literally as women who sing about men being no-good cheaters. Were you the kind of guy screaming at Disney's Hercules because Meg was a complete misandrist? It's a bit different than "GUYZ, WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY WOMENS VOTES OR ITS THE END OF CIVILIZATION AND WE WON'T GET OUR PENISES WET!!1!1111"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:36 AM
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Unfortunately, that kind of shallow measure seems to be a thing. When I was in a relationship with a conventionally attractive woman, everyone treated us like we were in a Disney movie. All smiles and pleasant banter. It made them happy to see us happy. Awww. Too bad she was the kind of woman who'd torture her pet to death. Or kick me out of my own bed, in the most literal sense, when she wasn't forcing me into it. I'm so much happier, now that I'm free. Fuck shallow people. If you can't respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:23 AM
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Odd. I never once said any of the bullshit you just shoved down my throat. So, are you a liar, or just too emotionally caught up in this debate to think logically? Which is it? Because - I simply observed that you guys are worthless at helping me with my relationship problems. "Women are turned off by guys with sensitive beta traits."? Good try. But this isn't your cuckold porn. And then there's your repeated failure to explain the popularity of sensitive boybands (they wouldn't be rich if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:12 AM
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That's the problem when you guys limit your understanding of the world to whoever will touch your penis - you really limit the sample. It's not science, anymore. It's just masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:29 AM
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I was just observing that many women don't want a master. And not all men are suited to be one, or even want to be one. A true dominant isn't troubled by such observations. They don't need to cover for their instincts by hiding behind crude appeals to popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:49 AM
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I'm not saying we're naturally dominant, like anything in life apart from eating and shitting it is a learned skill/behaviour. AKA, a roleplay. It turns out, chicks dig that. No kidding. It's a pretty common kink, and an underserved one, at that. If you can't appeal to someone's mind, go straight for the groin. And if you want to keep your dignity while doing it, pretend you're saying something deep about human nature. You won't actually keep your dignity, but enough reactionaries will cover for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:33 AM
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If the majority of you were dominant, you wouldn't need to be taught how to keep your own frame, or how to keep from worshipping your partner, and you'd focus on not letting that dominance hurt anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 12:15 AM
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Says the folks who think feminists don't acknowledge male rape survivors despite every feminist subreddit (and most feminists) taking the opposite position. Or the way you guys blame 3rd wave feminism for the sins of Mary P. Koss, a second waver. Are you that dumb, or just a liar?
/r/MensRights22/10/15 12:10 AM
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I wasn't a fan of the scatplay.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 07:07 AM
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Yeah. Many of us become switches, and partner up with other switches. If you get two people who just want to make each other happy, it's like a power exchange game of volleyball. And since we know what we're looking for in a Dominant, many of us are better able to play one than your average redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:47 AM
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Yeah, when I invite homeless men under my roof, it's because I hate men. When I give them food and entertainment, it's all about castrating them. When I sign petitions, when I raise awareness, it's all to gather souls. Enjoy clicking away at your outrage porn, hero.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 05:49 AM
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Kyriarchy. You know, that theory you pretend means black slaves were more privileged than the white women who owned them? And as for manhating, you're the guys who are supposed to be defending the rights of men, but are so shitty at it, that you need to constantly complain more feminists aren't doing it for you. Not that you even thank those who do. You guys don't want allies for men. You want to be hated. It's all that keeps you going.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 02:16 AM
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Of course not. I didn't include a handjob.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 02:05 AM
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Why are you acting like it's some big movement? Idiots pushing a narrative. Ironic, since MRAs have been falling over themselves to find every single feminist (out of millions) who hate men. But still an accurate call. I'll agree MRAs are idiots pushing a narrative.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 09:57 PM
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Just curious - why aren't you using your powers of overthinking, for good? You need to able to see opportunities, as well as potential disasters. You should be able to create "everyone wins" scenarios. These aren't impossible. They objectively exist. Even if it's not always a 50/50 split. It's what people are talking about, when they mention positive energy. And there is such a thing as positive masculinity. That's what you're really looking for...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:46 AM
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Men's horniness seems scattershot. Almost any woman will do. It kind of helps that you're in a subreddit that debates the redpill - you know, those cheerfully desperate blokes who will explode if they don't have non-stop jackhammer sex, like a bad porn parody of Speed? And you don't see the guys who really don't want to have sex with random strangers, because they're busy doing whatever else it is that has nothing to do with you. Most are unaware this insane subreddit even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:34 AM
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Great. Now, explain all of us who were fucking slut shamed before we lost our virginity? C'mon, hamster, spin that wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 02:23 AM
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You mean the RPW who admit to getting mad when their captain shows human emotions, because they can't keep roleplay to the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:27 PM
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It's not that simple. Just by being confused for a woman on the internet, I hit every single feminist issue pretty hard. Folks I'd just try to cheer up would assume I was hitting on them and a Manic Pixie Dreamgirl romance was about to begin. Soon, I learned to keep my guard up. And in no time flat, I'd learned a deeper appreciation for the belief that "A bitch is any woman who tells a man no." Some men would get irrationally angry if I dared to make them lose face in public, and they projected …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:51 AM
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That might convince me if it wasn't the exact opposite of my experiences. Some conventionally attractive women are shallow as you, some enjoy talking to me about philosophy, and what we can do to create a better world. Since I tend to avoid shallow people, and they have little use for me, I don't need to deal with them the way you apparently do. Thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:15 PM
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At least you've still got an active fantasy life. If you hit on shallow women, you're going to discover what shallow women care about. Pretending AWALT just exposes that you've got some growing up to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:11 PM
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When women report a common response to sexual assault, and they can't figure out what it means, and substitute their own theories instead, just because they're paranoid about false accusations? They're making things a lot more dangerous for both young men who trust them to give honest and informed sexual advice, and for their partners. You can't just assume everyone knows how to accurately read nonverbal communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:06 PM
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See for yourself. Apparently, the cure for shock paralysis is just manning up. Nice to know that all the medical doctors who disagreed were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 06:31 PM
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No, I wouldn't. Would you tell a straight woman to have sex with an asshole who feels entitled to her body, without her getting anything out of the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:55 PM
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Nah. More like a Republican who thinks the GOP needs to stop slut shaming men and treating them as expendable NPCs in their sandbox gaming. The closest they get to endorsing rape is "You froze up, so it gave me permission." Which is already depressingly common. Their views on exploiting women and any men who get in their way, are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:27 PM
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The problem with "Tumblr feminism" is that you have a bunch of anti-feminists dedicated to finding the worst things assholes say on Tumblr. When I do the same thing to /r/mensrights or /r/theredpill, suddenly, I'm being a bully who hates men. Why the hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:23 PM
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They are. It's up to you how much you shoulder that handicap to maintain good morals. Right. Maybe that's a handicap with the kind of assholes you want to fuck, but some of us refused to compromise our morals at all, and expanded our knowledge of them, to the point where we could go past "But, I'm a nice guy!" and actually help people. It's why I was invited to hang out, and make deeper connections... Because apparently, it made me unique. And those who wanted a moral partner were willing to giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:15 PM
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Sexual strategy is amoral, remember? You need to put aside your personal offense, and honestly evaluate whether the many parts of the brain responsible for assessing sexual attraction (looks, romantic chemistry, individual long term modifiers) and sexual repulsion (for example, close family members, people who seriously offend our standards, and whatever sex/gender, if any, we're not attracted to) are multi-tasking. It makes sense to me. As a 0 on the Kinsey scale, my ridiculous reaction to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:54 PM
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So, I was expecting any of the following - Pretending sexual assault is fine, if the victim freezes. Demanding the right, as a father, to not give a shit if your kid is supported, at least financially, somewhere, by someone. Not giving a shit what social diseases you spread. Psychological abuse for fun and profit. But these are just shallow, manipulative, assholes being shallow, manipulative, assholes. There's a huge difference between a pretty shitty human who offers the bare minimum contributi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:14 PM
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Oh, please. The redpill is so determined to check it's morals in at the door, that it thinks morals are a handicap to getting laid, when they're just as likely to be what gets your foot in the door so that you can show what else you offer. If your ability to make a connection isn't up to par with a junior high locker room, it might all be priceless information, but stop pretending they evaluate all possibilities objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:06 PM
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So, wait - you list criminal justice victories as revenge? Nice. You do know the difference, don't you? And I love the part where you dismiss community support as feels. No wonder why the manosphere is a toxic toilet that leaves men angry, scared, depressed, and bitter...unless women validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:57 PM
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Your title is a lie. The victim was of age in DC, and consented. The consent is invalid, because she abused a position of trust and power, which makes any sexual contact automatically a criminal act, regardless of how thrilled the victim was, afterwards. We can't take chances on this kind of shit. Some young men and women are wrecked when you destroy these kinds of boundaries, and some of them are perfectly capable of faking enthusiasm if there's enough social pressure. But in this case, it seem…
/r/MensRights16/10/15 01:04 PM
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Right, asshole. Feminists number in the millions. And you guys understand's men's issues? That's rich. Apparently, you didn't get the message when people told you they wanted a men's rights group that offered more than "Get rid of feminism!" as it's entire gameplan. You're not an activist group - you're harassment at Slutwalks. You're conspiracy theorists who spread lies about the amount of false accusations. You don't have ideas - you want men to think they're disposable, because it makes them …
/r/MensRights16/10/15 04:58 AM
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There is a reason that many men are reluctant to speak out on behalf of men. Oh? t is because people like you label us "misog I was raped, by my foster sister. I was beaten and raped by an ex. My brother was beaten with an electric fan by our babysitter, while she wasn't wearing any clothes at all. In survivor's group, we talked about the women who wrecked our lives. I've never stopped talking about any of this shit. I've raised Hell on againstmensrights about comparing false accusations to rape…
/r/MensRights16/10/15 04:26 AM
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Curious. Redpills constantly take my metaphors literally, and the whole point of the redpill to begin with, is to crunch abstract thought into concrete reality, with as few conflicting hypotheticals as possible. Here's the problem with your sexual marketplace: You're Wal-Mart. You're Coca-Cola. You're the dark side of Walt Disney. Whenever you guys measure SMV, you want to appeal to as many people as possible, in only the blandest, least threatening sense. For a bunch of self-declared outlaws, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:26 AM
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Nice speech. You're still paranoid as Hell, and you're a fucking child who'd rather go it alone than make an alliance with potential allies. This is why the traditionalists are kicking our asses. Because radfems. the mainstream, and social conservatives agreed on the whole "Women couldn't hurt a big strong man" deal. But you? You can't swallow your fucking pride. You see a feminist who gives a shit about men's issues, and you throw a tantrum about the label. That's why I don't consider you any k…
/r/MensRights16/10/15 02:55 AM
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And CAFE teams up with Paul Elam and Tanveer Ahmed, and you can't figure out why they're controversial? Really? Are you just in the habit of writing a blank check for whatever the MRM does?
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:43 AM
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Got. Every asshole who identifies as a feminist speaks for all of us, while the latest anti-feminist spree shooter only represents themselves. Why is it that Paul Elam got all those donations, while Silverman's shelter crashed? Who knows, it's all a mystery. You guys can't be bothered to actually back up your rhetoric. Over a hundred thousand of you, clicking away on karma bait, and yet, I poll people in the social services, and they've never even heard of the MRM. So cut the shit. You're just a…
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:31 AM
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Intersectional 3rd wave feminists: Talking about male survivors since before there was an MRA subreddit. Do you want to try again?
/r/MensRights15/10/15 11:07 PM
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Yup, the proper thing for MRAs to do, is refuse to give any place trying to help men any ad money for the article. That'll send a message.
/r/MensRights15/10/15 10:57 PM
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I read that you like slurs. I wasn't interested in rewarding you with a reaction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:18 PM
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Who said we regard any same sex attraction as something bad? We regard lying about it as the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:30 AM
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Nah, I am a very strong and stubborn personality, is it really that unlikely that people like women who are easy to deal with? But not men who are easy to deal with? Oh, right. I forgot, almost everyone who takes the redpill thinks Donald Trump would win the presidency if it wasn't for the forces of evil. Myself, I'd rather a woman of good character be strong, and one of cruel and selfish character be weak, but that's just me. There aren't nearly enough men and women of good character to begin w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 11:06 AM
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Except there you are, whining that we always stereotype just as bad as most people in the redpill do. As for the redpill being gay - please. They could be bi or pan. Those of us who are attracted to one sex exclusively are in the minority. Besides. We limit accusations of being in the closet to contributors who describe men's bodies in loving detail, and consider sex with women something they're forced to do for social status/validation. It's not exactly like we're making up shit about other peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:53 AM
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Especially if you belong to ISIS. If we're going to pull bullshit metaphors out of our asses, anti-feminists get to be the reactionaries against US foreign policy. Why can't feminists ever stop committing human rights abuses?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:40 AM
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I am repulsed by dominant women. About time I finally met an honest pillbug. Most pretend submissives are just expressing women's true nature. Not just because of their character, but because they are repulsive, looks wise. Damn, nevermind. Here we go exploring strange new worlds again... But it makes sense, sweet, beautiful women had everything handed to them all their life. Especially the offers for free dick pics. Is it really free beer/RPG loot if sexual favors are expected out of it? Sure, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:32 AM
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I like the part where you're whining to a woman about being stereotyped. I'm beginning to think the average redpill is oblivious to anything besides looks, power, and wealth is due to some really serious bugs in the hardware.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:15 AM
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Except feminists have been talking about this for a while now. Here's a challenge for you - find me a major feminist subreddit that doesn't support male rape survivors.
/r/MensRights15/10/15 01:06 AM
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My entire family is monogamous with their partners. We do exist. I've tried forcing myself to be poly, in order to accommodate others... It feels like an obligation, and it makes me feel cheap. Wish I knew why. I'm okay with my partners seeing other people... But not with them asking me to do the same. Why do you imply not wanting to commit comes from fear rather than other reasons? It's not an exhaustive list. There is no way this is more than 90% of cases. How could any single reason cover 90%…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 12:29 AM
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Oh. That explains why I did so much better at this offline. I thought I was just showing signs of my disease rapidly advancing. It's part of why I've been avoiding the public...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:09 PM
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I'm incompatible with figurative language. Here's my error crash report.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:02 PM
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I bow to your expertise on this one. I've tried mirroring the ideals masculine incels claim to adhere to, when reaching out to them, and it turns out angry internet pissing contests aren't nearly as rational as Reddit claimed. Any tips?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:59 PM
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Lol, what? Dude, the brain is the most important sex organ there is. Join your forces together, and you also get the heart, the soul, and everything else that comes with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:16 PM
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Some parts of this sound completely bluepill. If you throw away the "MAN MUST LEAD, WOMAN FOLLOW!!! GRRR!" gender traditional roles some people - but not all of us - go nuts for, he's talking about sharing each other's worlds, basically. Since I'm traditionally feminine, and most of the women attracted to me are tomboys, the genital bio-truths he advocates are worthless, but the "stand up for yourself" and "communicate effectively" parts of all that will hold true for anyone. The power bits are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:13 PM
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Well, I have a dick. Sometimes it gets wet. The owners of the wet pussies were usually singing the same song as me. Just curious - why is it more important that we had fun orgasm time together than everything else we did, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:03 PM
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I think all of this stuff is because of the incels lack of experience with people in general and deep seated issues with self-esteem. I'm not sure that's all. I mean, I'm a self-esteem black hole, but I learned how to entertain people/flirt/provide emotional support and desperately clung to being a drug dealer through other people's brains. (In a healthy way, all self-depreciating edgy metaphors aside.) With incels - I think it's really about their negative mindset? I mean, take flirting with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:59 PM
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I talk about gamma women, because I hang out with them every fucking day, online and offline. You're the one who thinks you can learn about half the planet from looking at who wants to fuck complete strangers. Also, you're the one who belongs to a paranoid worldview. Get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:53 PM
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So, basically, men are desperate animals who'll fuck anything with a vagina? Women must feel awesome about that. I love when you guys are the real misandrists. ll I'm saying is that your condition doe And yet, I'm the only blue pill who read all your stupid bullshit, until I understood the core concepts involved, and regularly links to hard science to refute it. Because I have to work way harder to be taken seriously than any of you do. What this subreddit knows about feminism looks like the par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:45 PM
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Because they have no idea what positive feminine traits are, or how they can work for men. So, they leapt to things universally regarded as negative traits, and blame women for not breeding more of them into the gene pool. This is what passes for logic in this subreddit. Christ, it's so fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:41 PM
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If they want to be treated like a vagina, yes. Christ, do you guys ever stop masturbating long enough to realize how much many women HATE that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:39 PM
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Hey, neat. You identified the problems I'd have, if I didn't have self-awareness and decades of cognitive therapy. And yes, I'd say you're expressing a bitter douchebag philosophy. women are valuable because they have vaginas. See? I didn't make that up. You said it. The redpill goes in with that attitude, while I keep wondering why it's so easy for me to make friends because I take the radical feminist view that people are more than a support system for their reproductive functions... And that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:35 PM
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We won't convince each other, because people keep trying to save my life despite me being unemployed and mentally ill. Usually, they're women. And then there's your theory that women are automatically valuable because they're a support system for a vagina, ovaries, etc. Wow. That's....incredibly stupid, actually. Hey, let me play - men are automatically valuable to society because of their upper body strength. They might not ever get to fuck, especially if they feel like they're owed sex while b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:18 PM
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My dad was just ill. It wasn't his fault. And he was a child of rape, which the family never forgave him for, as a kid, so I can kind of understand... My doctor... He prescribes my meds. He doesn't try to get creative. I don't need to be scared I'll end up in the hospital again. I really shouldn't let it all get to me. I'm really sorry. Not your fault. But thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:02 PM
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Okay, there's a huge problem with this list. It assumes there are no Gamma and Omega women. Many of the women I've met through BDSM are just giant sex nerds who take their love of geek culture into their love lives. And they adore snark fests. And Omegas? The lovely ex who raped me had to be taught why it's important to change her underwear, and that she'd have a lot less murderous fantasies if she'd stop hiding in her tiny room with the curtains drawn. She looked attractive, but since she refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:57 PM
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Why are you avoiding everyone who isn't a close friend Snow? Do you really want to know? Last chance to look away. I'm serious. Okay... It's because I've decided I can make my life simpler by looking normal, and blending into the background. It really cuts down on unwanted positive attention. Except. I'm not normal. And I never will be. Because I suffer from hebephrenia. It's a neurodegenerative disease, known for hitting hard and fast. And because I also suffer from complex PTSD and a sex phobi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:35 PM
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Your words. Yup. My anecdotal data. Guess it's not allowed when incels paint everything in simple b/w terms. personalities and traits Can be worked on, same as physical fitness. Unless you're too proud, and too arrogant, and demand people love you without getting anything in return, beyond the behaviors that signal your addiction to a neurochemical high.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:32 AM
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No, it's a humblebrag to you, because you think sex means everything. You've never been used for sex. It feels like shit. It feels like you're disposable, and you can't trust anyone ever again. It teaches you that all you have to offer, is sex. How long can you stay attractive, before nobody gives a shit about you? I really, really, understand men and women who've been burned by it. I won't attack people for not wanting to talk about it, but don't you fucking dare tell me that I'm not hurting ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:29 AM
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I was raised in the gender flipped experiment you propose. Whatever the female version of blue balls is, I gave a lot of it. And I still have serious issues about feeling like a complete slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:26 AM
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Don't even start. You misrepresented what I said. I've said I don't believe incels can't do better than me. How is that demonization? You can criticize a behavior or a belief, and not hate the person. but for me it's just a word describing a life situation that I have no control over. Yeah, I know it seems like it...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:14 AM
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Well, strictly speaking, yeah. If I ever end up attracting a woman, first thing I'm going to do after sex is bang my head on the nearest wall for being wrong about myself this whole time. At least you're honest. Someone whose personality became shittier but he remains able to attract women - nah, that guy isn't incel and never was. Someone that toxic, can't it be mental illness? I just...how do you become that angry? That trapped in the past? slut Men can be sluts too. I wanted to be married, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:06 AM
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People tend to hold up their end of the conversation, as a baseline. She was giving him every chance, because she believes in doing right by everyone. It's why she's a friend in the first place. her So, so far we're at "refuses to allow most people who are upset at being alone into their exclusive club", "claims my hope and faith incels can do better for themselves is demonizing them", and "just assumes I'm a woman, because reasons." You're really not helping your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:55 AM
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Given how few incels there are, it's pretty damn unlikely for someone to be unattractive to ALL people. So, then, any incel who loses their virginity was never an incel to begin with, by the measure you propose. They just didn't know any better. And someone who becomes so repellent that they will never have sex again, still can't get into this exclusive club. No wonder there are so few. It's more ridiculous than lesbian purity tests. humble brag Oh, yes - "Hey! I'm a total damaged slut nobody wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:47 AM
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Well, there's the fact I mentioned more than one person, and you can't imagine my friend sincerely caring about someone in pain, unless "tingles". You have a pretty shitty personality. Work on it, and maybe you'll stop repelling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:34 AM
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Really stepping up to the plate, weren't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:16 AM
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What in the ever living fuck, I thought you said he was an incel? Are you arguing that someone can't fall into involuntary celibacy? He had the looks, but his charming personality sent everyone running for the hills. And it only made him angrier. Which only made more people avoid him... His sexual market value was pretty fucking low. Few women are that desperate, unless money changes hands. my sex life The point was only about attraction. I have mental illness, I'm poor, I'm terrified of sex, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:55 AM
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Also, the list should include "Just for fun."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:27 AM
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seems he was talking about something hurtful in his past He was talking about a woman he loved, who saw him as a passing sex toy. He never got over it. Ever. And it was all he'd talk about. It was driving other women away, and he was convinced he was a forever alone. She was my deepest friend, and the best "Shoulder to cry on." After listening to his tale of woe - the long version; she said she'd never use him. And that should have been the start of something good... But he angrily accused her o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:15 AM
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Your first guy seems more eccentric than a "loser" to me, like I said, he doesn't fit my textbook image of the "male loser". Is it textbook, or stereotype? I've never met anyone, in real life, who meets the "angry obese shut-in fedora wearing neckbeard who wants a life like porn" description. Is she a single mom perhaps? No. What is she living on disability before? Not sure. I know she used to work Hershey Park? Did she need extra money? No. Actually, they don't live together. But they spend so …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:45 AM
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What happened next? He screamed at her? insulted her? He accused her of not giving a shit about his pain. He wanted a therapy session, not a date. And yeah, people need to give more of a shit about each other, but... Hmm...I think, reading the rest of your post, we're talking about two different populations of people. Those I've interacted with, argue that they're forever alone, but they're not part of an organized internet community? This leads to all kinds of questions about the differences be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:16 AM
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Daniel Radcliffe is a fucking sex icon to a lot of teen girls. I'm not talking about the movies. So he's a swift talker Who has no filter, and is terrible at understanding basic human interaction. He rambles, all over the place. He comes across like he's high. So are a lot of average blokes. Do they jump in the air? Do they yelp? Can you fuck with their heads without even trying? Great, so some minor financial struggles. She supported him, yes. Is he hot? Not in the least. Average build for a sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:52 AM
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How the hell is that "picking up a fight" He didn't like her changing the subject back to the present day. if it wasn't actually a figment of your imagination. Welcome to the rest of the world. We actually have reasons for believing the things we do, that have nothing to do with you. So you have zero other redeeming qualities? Because that's what it would mean to claim they crushed on you just because of that. ...okay, fair point on that one. You're right. But anything else I offered them isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:38 AM
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I was thinking more "hyperactive Harry Potter look alike" who runs his mouth at a 100 miles per hour and is scared of gay jokes. Also, he's terrible with money, and keeping jobs. She did dump him when he started trying to be more redpill, though. Then there's almost senile, but a nice guy and he means well. Used to think he was a wizard. His girlfriend isn't going anywhere. She's been there by his side for over a decade now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:24 AM
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I've tried to hook incels up, and every single time they bothered to show up, they picked a fight with the date. Whether it was her getting bored of spending the entire date talking about other women, or him assuring her that her taste in first person shooters was terrible, it was all really eye opening. Also, half the people who crushed on me, did so just because I wasn't an asshole or a desperate doormat. I really find it difficult to believe these men can't reach that low bar...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:15 AM
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Oh, you mean those sexy, jacked, charming exciting bad boy "loser" boyfriends? No, because I don't get all my information about life from cheesy 80's comedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 04:09 AM
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Poly. Experimenting/exploring. Terrified of commitment. For social status. Some forms of mental illness - a manic phase can be hypersexual, for instance. Sex worker. No boundaries. Emotional connections/sexual healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 12:16 AM
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Just curious - how do you account for marriages where the woman has a higher libido than her partner, and he's the furthest thing from an alpha? Can you explain the difference between a delta and a gamma? Apologies, but when all of this was explained to me, it was Alpha (self explanatory masculine extreme), Beta (geeks, alternative culture, may have a feminine side), and Gamma (at the very bottom - really offering nothing to anyone). Why is this entirely based on her appraisal of him? Most troub…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 12:05 AM
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So, my entire argument is that you can't boil human sexuality down into a one size fits all formula, and now you want me to throw darts at a username and a few angry posts, in the hope we'll both get lucky? Doesn't work like that. Why don't you tell me where you want to improve? Assuming you're even serious about wanting to actually learn anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:05 PM
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Good thing I never said a word about homosexual women, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:55 PM
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Do you know what those parts of the brain actually do? I'm saying that human sexuality can also be triggered through both a visual, and an emotional connection. If you read between the lines, it also explains so called demisexuals - once you know there's a part of the brain responsible for physical attraction, it's easy to understand that in some people, it may not work at all, and skip straight to needing an emotional bond for sex not to feel like a turn-off. People sensitive to emotions, to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:52 PM
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I'm a male rape survivor who hangs around the manosphere. Of course I looked. The lying little shits didn't expect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:15 PM
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What you mean is, "you're wrong about OKCupid" No, I mean you guys selectively report the OKCupid data to mislead people. There's a difference. And when you claim that this gives you a scientific backing lacking in your many critics, you're assuming an authority you're completely lacking. Is there even a single blue piller who can say the same? Sure. Try me. say exactly what you believe about human sexuality Sure. You guys focus on the inferior temporal cortex, neglect the orbitofrontal cortex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:12 PM
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It's modern womanese for "edgy." Compared to the above answer, which is modern manese edginess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:57 PM
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Pansexual, in practice, generally means you've got zero problems with non-binary genders. Trans, intersex, agender, gender fluid, etc. It's kind of controversial, in that some bisexuals are just as obsessed with gender roles as straight people, while others ignore the "bi" in their name, and mean "pansexual", but really don't want to explain all that to people who only just now figured out LGBT, and would be confused by GSRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:54 PM
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I'm not saying the opposite of what I mean. I've simply observed you guys cherry picking data, and crudely generalizing whenever possible to cover up complications, in a way Donald Trump would envy. Outside of your echo chamber, in a real debate, it's a joke. If you want respectability, try to actually earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:45 PM
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Uh-huh. And that's why I can find feminists protesting war crimes, and helping men through the social services, while the manosphere seems shocked whenever they discover there isn't a single feminist subreddit that supports covering up male rape survivors. Tell me another one. Most aren't even aware of what branch of feminist thought Mary P. Koss represents. "DUH, 3RD WAVE?" is either a sign of severe neurological damage, or laziness on par with most lichen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:12 PM
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It's because we're asked to seriously debate ideas like "DAE think feminism just hates heterosexual men?????!!!!!" with people who learned all they know about feminism from anti-feminist circlejerks, and who frequently suffer from convenient amnesia after being corrected. It doesn't improve any with "But AWALT offers plenty of subtle variations on the one personality profile we created for all women!" To debate it, as if it's a legitimate point of view, is to simply hand it a tactical victory it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:04 PM
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TRP has way, way, way more science supporting it than blue pillers do Would that be the one where you guys observed OK Cupid women think most men are physically unattractive, but ignored the part where they still message men they find physically unattractive, or the part where you sided with the cult of Scientology on psychology, because you guys decided it was too feminine, and confused feminine for "Lying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:59 PM
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Oh, for fuck's sake. You just have an anxiety disorder, mixed with some paranoia, and you're going dark side because it's a nice safe bubble where you're rewarded for being ever vigilant and hope can't hurt you. I mean, crap, I'm currently avoiding everyone who isn't a close friend, but at least I'm not trying to pretend it says anything about half the planet. There are plenty of women who defend their low status 'loser' boyfriends to everyone who can't see what they offer. There are mothers who…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:34 PM
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For him? Not sure. First, we'd need to know a little bit about what he wants in a partner, besides "A pulse"? But for now, it might help if he learned how to flirt. You're not expected to just suddenly know who is interested in you, and how much they're interested in you, out of the blue. There's a feeling out process. Just speaking for myself, it was easiest to learn how to hold my own by hanging out with LGBTQ friends. There was zero bullshit about gender roles, so I could admit to being innoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:21 PM
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Sure. No problem. Find her attractive, but I also enjoy talking philosophy with her, and the fact that we can compare notes about how fucking brain damaged the redpill is? 2-???. I'm not going to count them all. We enjoy writing stories together. The rest is just all about great conversations. Sorry your penis is controlling everything you do, but we're not all as helpless as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 02:31 AM
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This bullshit fantasy about how average looking men can't get laid, unless they alpha up, as determined by some really unimaginative men who can't compensate with their energy and/or charm. If you're an actual beta, and not a gamma, you can probably get laid. But the redpill has decided words mean whatever they want them to mean, and they hamster away any attraction that they can't smash into their "Hypergamous sluts" model.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 01:36 AM
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I think it's telling he mentally turns this - They are so desperate to please that they put aside their own needs, and place the object of their desire on a pedestal. Instead of appreciating her, they worship her. We are only human, and pedestals are narrow, confining places to be -- not to mention the fact that we tend to fall off of them. Into People will tell them they’re evil misogynist rapists – as the articles above did – He completely ignores the fact that the same article talks about abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 12:05 AM
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Back then, I thought I had all the answers. Love? Sex? Being the one chased, instead of chasing? But I don't want an endless chase. And I don't want just sex, either, with declarations of an undying love. I want to find someplace, I belong. But I don't know how to belong. How would I even find out? I don't think that part of my brain even works. It's why I keep going places where I really don't belong. At least then, it's all out in the open. Yeah, that's a real problem. A fucked up moral compas…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 11:27 PM
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Thanks, my hands are still fucked up, but I think I found a doctor who could help me. Here's hoping. Have to wait until January though, sucks. It does. How long has it been? Hope you are well! So-so. But that's an improvement? I'm taking time to myself, instead of using other people's orgasms to avoid figuring out what I actually want out of life? Did you ever ditch your moral compass Thanks to my fucked up everything, my moral compass thought it was a sin to even consent to sex. Love to say I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 10:22 PM
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It's not stupid because TRP doesn't just cater to one type of man. There's married reactionaries with a high libido in TRP, high libido reactionaries in relationships, and of course, the really bitter high libido reactionaries. TRP gives sexual strategy to all high libido reactionaries regardless of what their goal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 10:00 PM
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Can you guys use beta the way everyone else on the planet does? So that we can stop pretending to be amazed when social protestors have wild sex together? Because it just comes across as desperate denial, and a huge cuckold fetish, otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:57 PM
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I wasn't sure. But yeah, it was good seeing you around these parts. :) How is life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:50 PM
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The race that just a short while ago conquered I just observe that white people were still big on the whole burning witches thing before a plague destroyed the Americas, and simply handed them all kinds of space to expand into. Exploiting slaves and immigrants, making the most of world wars, beating the shit out of sexual minorities, committing war crimes and destabilizing one region after another... If that's white civilization at it's best, no wonder all the good ones aren't big on boasting. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:43 PM
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Well, yeah. I mean, my dad was a crazy fundamentalist, and I missed out on the whole "having friends over at my house" part of childhood, so... What else was I supposed to do? You learn by doing. Apologies for lashing out. I'm just sick of talking at walls around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:30 PM
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According to the redpill, charm school begins and ends with the Dark Triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:19 PM
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I don't think women actually like men at all. You try to be friends with a girl you get called a pig, if you were a girl that wouldn't happen now would it? Never happened to me. What the Hell else did you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:15 PM
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Odd. I thought my whole life was pretty much a social experiment, but the redpill was busy ignoring it all, because they don't like the results. I kept breaking traditional masculine frames and was completely rewarded for it. Not just a little, but a whole fucking lot. Way more than I was ready for. I mean, I pretty much confirmed that what they describe exists, as a limited sampling of sexual identity, but since I can't endorse AWALT, (and yes, I know how they hamster it) without laughing cruel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:11 PM
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I have a fear of sex. Flight or fight or freeze. Some folks find it hilarious. And some dominants are sick of men who only fake it. It's okay when I'm with friends. And I don't ask people to censor themselves. I pride myself on creating safe places for people to express themselves without judgement. I wish there were more. But some really just don't know when to quit. And when they decide they have a right to mess around with my head and my body whenever they want... If I could trade places with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 01:06 AM
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Greasypole and I don't agree on almost anything, but I agree with his assessment of the above...until he goes off to dismiss all critics of the redpill, as usual. We live in a society where straight men who stand out are rewarded for it, despite some really shitty opinions. Of course some redpills are going to discover social privilege isn't something we're just using to make them feel guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:25 PM
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You'd think. Unfortunately, it became a huge scandal on the internet when she complained.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:24 PM
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Ditto here. It's why you need to be careful when studying humanity. Our brains are the most complex structures in the known universe. When you try to understand us, without accounting for all factors, it's easy to go off on a wrong path.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:23 PM
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Oh, by all means, go ahead and use this as an example of how the red pill debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:21 PM
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K.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:19 PM
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Ironic. The redpill has called women and their supporters every crude insult they can think of. Did you forget? And. Smug moral superiority? No, just disappointed. Your emotional rants have led you to argue people can magically shrug off shock trauma paralysis during an unexpected sexual assault. Now you're unable to even argue for an experiment trying to prove large dick mate selection was ever actually a thing in the general population. Hey, the ancient Greeks just proved the opposite, if we'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:19 PM
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K. Not much point in arguing with you. All you've got is "You don't understand", and your innocent faith that a bigger dick is something evolution selected for, when this experiment doesn't ever actually prove it. Edit: Seriously, how long did it take us to invent clothes vs. modern pornography? It's pretty clear you're too emotionally invested in this, to have an actual conversation about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:49 PM
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Oh, yes. One more thing. When your best counterargument is this? Yeah, I'm pretty okay with what this told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:21 PM
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Yup. It's why empaths leans towards the arts, not videogame programming. It's also why many charming folks are terrible at telling you how to get laid like we do. If you're terrible at figuring out the human cost of your actions, you turn to the redpill, in complete desperation. Because they understand your need to have every single thing spelled out for you, step by bloody fucking tedious step. And with little room for improv, no wonder you guys need to keep frame. No wonder why you're only abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:17 PM
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Mhmm. I simply reported that human sexuality is a complex system based on many interdependent factors. This is an objective fact. You don't get to argue it. You don't get to erase this fact when arguing for evolution. In the real world, you generally don't know a man's dick size until you've already at least thought about fucking him. Or he sent a dick pic to a complete stranger. How is that sexual strategy working out? The study asked women to think about flaccid dicks. Which is interesting, si…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:09 PM
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When he attempts to understand why women are sick of being constantly pressured for relationships/sex, and fails like he's a space alien new to our planet. All it took for me to figure it out, was just being kind of feminine and hanging out on the internet. I quickly developed issues with sexual objectification/harassment, and had to hang out in 2x if I wanted to talk to anyone else who understood. Other dudes who intentionally performed the experiment, but went all the way, and actually imitate…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:59 PM
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Read. Christ. I don't know why I thought I could avoid explaining things that should be painfully obvious. You can't extract the individual elements of sexual attraction and measure them accurately, because they're context dependent. Every single time you attempt to do this anyways, you're giving the arts and soft sciences, which, at their best, are based on factoring as many complex factors as possible, more reason to laugh at STEM failure. But keep at it, anyways. It's fun watching you guys ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:44 PM
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Ah I see, you've moved on to claiming we are wrong because we are ignorant. No, I said you're ignorant because you cherry pick data, and pat yourselves on the back for accurately modeling variations of a single sexual strategy. It's still stupid. Just what is your objection ? It seems to prove the hypothesis it says it set out to prove. It was used to prove women aren't interested in casual sex. A follow up experiment, decades later, focused on whether or not she'd go out with a guy who expected…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:20 PM
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I've got zero problems with referencing Dawkins when he's not being an idiot. Everyone has their weak points.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:12 PM
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Check it out. Way more scientists than those who think we're going to solve all our problems by simply placing women in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 03:10 PM
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Well, I can disprove global warming if we're going to play that game. I wonder what the wildest ideas I can find that are supported by an actual scientist somewhere are? Also, read this before you go into panic mode. And by the way, that blue pill submission was a parody of the redpill. C'mon, did you think Jonathon Swift really wanted to eat the Irish kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:50 PM
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Suppose I can give you a drug that melts your brain and simply makes you unbelievably happy for the rest of your life? Would you want it? what if you were told you're in a happiness machine, would you like to be unplugged? Does the poor lunatic who confuses this for a happiness simulator carry a gun?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:40 PM
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Do you know where I can find books online? Otherwise, I can only send you the Amazon link. It offended sex negative feminists, conservative reactionaries, and the gatekeepers of mainstream thought alike with things we'd regard as everyday parts of the internet, just a few years before the world wide web hit the public consciousness. And if you wish, her older books are 50 Shades of Everything You'd Expect from women born before the sexual revolution. She also did one for men. Well, what can you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:31 PM
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Dawkins Great at understanding selfish genes, terrible at understanding why a woman would complain about being hit on by a stranger in an elevator at 4am in the morning. I can see why the redpill would regard him as an expert in everything sexual. By the way, it's difficult to take all of this seriously, when science is just now figuring out that women who lie tend to minimize their sexuality, or that there are women capable of expressing it in aggressive ways. Or the experiment where they expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:55 PM
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Evolutionary psychology Which is better than regular psychology because it skips straight to the sex and violence parts. Soft science EXTREME! It also tends to avoid anything too feminine, like it learned everything about human nature from an internet image board. Genetics In a world without consensual recreational sex, this is the only way to count who is winning. Popular science Clickbait extended to book length. Half of these really belong in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 11:12 AM
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If you've got a different kind of redpill besides what's offered everywhere else on Reddit, by all means, share the details. Negging and playing coy only works when you're trying to get innocents in bed. And again - I never said the redpill offered a single model for leadership. I said it was sexist trash, and of limited use, as practiced all over the place, and in the side bar. I also said that it's pretty shit when dealing with anything more than the most primitive instincts and emotions. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 10:54 AM
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Except that I just pointed out that your example isn't indicative of the only view of what it means to lead. I never said it was. But what I'm told over and over by redpills, is that men need to lead, in some form, if you want a stable relationship. "Women, the oldest teenagers in the room." C'mon, if you want to talk about how AWAL young submissives with poor impulse control, just be honest about it, instead of pretending it's not about angry masturbation. These are all exciting ideas in manosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:09 AM
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See, my entire point was that I shouldn't need to spell everything out. Why would you think that I'd even attempt to cover the wonder and complexity that is the elusive redpill ideal? what it means to lead Some people prefer to lead side by side. Some women are destined to lead. It's not controversial, except in a redpill safety bubble. sensitive men and porn stars Ah, got it. So, 50 Shades is totally what women actually want, and whatever women like that the redpill doesn't approve of, can be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:11 AM
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Because we don't all agree on the measurements, past surface appraisals? With any long term connection, these differences become more pronounced. And even sticking to surface appraisals of simple looks, which is not the complete story on SMV, things like colored hair, tattoos, and subculture/fetishes complicate the numbers. Do you really want to pit rugged vs. metrosexual vs. androgynous and pretend that it's not subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:01 AM
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Out of curiosity, what "traditional gender roles" are you referring to here? All kinds. What kind of personality would represent a bad fit Oh, c'mon. I know the redpill likes to live in a fantasy world where SMV can be measured like DBZ power levels, and it's prepared to cherry pick on behalf of some really shallow people like someone desperate to immigrate into America... But even you can't possibly ignore the "If she isn't fucking you like a submissive porn star, she doesn't give a shit about …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:43 AM
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I'm not advocating what works for me. That would be ridiculous. I'm advocating what works for individuals. Men and women both. There are some people who love exploring the boundaries of good taste. They're not all looking for traditional gender roles. There are people who are into traditional gender roles, and who express that through mutual loyalty until death. When the redpill takes someone who's personality is a bad fit for their strategy, and then tries to blame them for not making it work, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:47 PM
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TRP is about being desirable, having women chase you rather than the other way around If that was the truth, they'd focus more on diversifying. They've figured out how to appeal to a fraction of the sexual market, and now they think they have all the answers. It's more like an oversexed version of Fight Club.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:40 PM
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We're in a debate subreddit, where the redpill tries desperately to defend/deny their bitterness about everything I just described. And everyone knows why the internet is really offended by the idea of women not hiding their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 10:31 PM
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Almost as though you are trying to convince me men as a whole didn't object to feminism in the period 1945-1980. Which version of feminism? Which men? You seem to be arguing that anti-feminist/conservative men are the only ones whose views count. And that flies in the redpill, but it's lazy as Hell everywhere else. Sure, you can handwave us off as white knights and manginas, but then it's just sad when you get offended about me insulting you. Feminists won arguments in the culture wars, simply b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 09:01 PM
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The part where you claimed that women didn't oppose no fault and sexual promiscuity. You can't claim these changes were gendered without rewriting history. Many socially conservative women were very opposed to no fault. Conservative women and sex negative radical feminists found common ground on opposing the third bullet point, with many sex positive feminists arguing that you needed to treat short term partners with the kind of respect and dignity afforded your friends. A hybrid between short t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:34 PM
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You mean taking a photograph of you in a scene to remember a moment? Like how our memory normally behaves? Question: Who is the real narcissist? Those who take a brief moment to do this, or those who devote hours to screaming about these and many other women on the internet because sex isn't a gift handed out to everyone just for existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:53 PM
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/r/againstmensrights is just against MRAs. No sub is perfect, and I walked away for good reasons (sick of apples and oranges comparisons between rape and false accusations, for example), but if you're expecting them to hate men non-ironically, you're going to be really disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:27 PM
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Oh, for Christ's sake. It's easy to find TRP members advocating marriage as a long term goal, preferably with a woman who allows her captain to make all the really important decisions. If you want to speak for the red pill, break off into another branch, so we can at least keep track of you all. Though this explains why you folks can't tell the difference between 2nd wave gender essentialists and 3rd wave sex positive intersectional. Well, that and those words have lots of syllables. I understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:22 PM
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Second wave radical feminism and the redpill practically agree on almost everything, except they disagree over what's good and bad about it. Those of us who figured out how to get past our worst instincts years ago, and those of us who have other worst instincts, just roll our eyes at the whole thing. The hate crush is so over the top that it's like you're the only people on each other's planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:16 PM
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Just for fun, I googled it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:45 PM
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I just said that sexually assaulting someone can result in a freeze response, since, you know, that's just common sense medicine. If I'd have known it would be so offensive to you guys, I wouldn't have ever suggested the red pill could be trusted to handle last minute resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:19 PM
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Oh, would you rather I talked about how the manosphere seems obsessed with how much like rape sex can be, before they're actually risking a conviction? Because we can talk about that, if you prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 07:09 PM
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Seems so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:44 PM
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Here's a handy guide: If the redpill says it, it's only as intelligent as the person saying it, and you should instinctively read their minds, or else you're an idiot they can safely ignore. If anyone else says it, it's as literal as machine code. #KillAllMen? Fuck! We're doomed!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:24 PM
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It's certainly useful if you want to play games with immature young women all your life, and you need to rationalize it to yourself. And really, you might have a better chance of persuading me the redpill knew what it was talking about before you tried to convince me some of them were too stupid to know when they were sexually assaulting someone, unless it's carefully spelled out for them. Dalrock Why am I not at all surprised he advocates going for the young ones? Not hard at all. And if there …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:14 PM
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It's the bloops around here who have an unfounded belief backed by their inexperience that they are correct. You keep assuming that anyone who disagrees with you is inexperienced. I've yet to see any actual evidence offered other than that accusation. Also, which side needs everything spelled out for them, again? I mean, seriously, how hard is it to look for what gives someone a big old Duchenne smile? He'll present it in such a way as to piss Bloops and Females off... Because we have lots of fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:53 PM
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Of course you guys thrive on it. We're already established you're reactionary as Hell, competitive to a fault, and seriously convinced more than half of the world is trying to fuck you over. Half of the ideas I've seen presented on the redpill subreddit are based on the idea that if it pisses enough people off, it simply must be true. And open to criticism? Dunning-Kruger covers it. you're getting 100's of positive results one way... and 2 or 3 another way... You start pursuing the first strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:47 PM
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Wolf allegory isn't consequential. The concept of an Alpha male is all throughout the ecosystem. Like in spotted hyenas, emperor penguins, sea horses, spiders, and angler fish? There are plenty of Alpha males that are stupid children with little to no redeeming qualities that skate through life anyway because they're confident in themselves. So, I guess Sarah Palin is an alpha male too? Edit: Though to be fair, there are just as many useless alpha males in prison as there are in corporate and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:30 PM
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You're ignoring all the ones who aren't meeting their goals. I wonder who made them paranoid? You're also trying to make this about all of you vs. just little old me, but I'm far from the only one pointing out the flaws in how the redpill's theories are applied. Upping Alpha, but losing Beta, makes you mucvh more fuckable, but a less good relationship prospect.... Most sane people try to combine the virtues of both. If you give me a choice of black vs. white, that really reflects on your lack of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:01 PM
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These terms have existed as long as humans could observe behaviour in packs of wolves. Pity they were wrong. The head janitor is an alpha if he's confident and unapologetic. I've met plenty of assholes who are confident they always know what they're doing, and refuse to ever apologize. They don't get very far without connections or talent to compensate for it. Mostly, because they're pretty fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:51 PM
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Except they're observing what generally works when they cold call complete strangers. If you can't see the handwaving involved in those results, it's very possible that you're unaware that people disagree with consensus evaluations over the long term. What happens beyond shallow first impressions. Or, in plain English. So, when you present a single number for sexual market value, and claim it's objective, you're already only giving half the story, at best. What you're really doing, is encouragin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:36 PM
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Of course it is. Let's talk about what the redpill claims turns off women. For example, the claim that men who don't mindlessly conform to traditional masculinity will even turn off bisexual/pansexual feminists. How does that work, exactly? They are stabbing their own gender in the back. They are literally selling out their own sexuality, their fellow man, and most importantly they are in a con-deluded world where they think the world revolves around them, and if they show they are different in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:15 PM
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Well, not if you stopped putting your compunction to take everything as a moral commandment away. You misunderstand. According to the red pill, I have a negative sexual market value. According to the blue pill, the red pill is full of shit, and really just has a kink for cuckold fantasy. Since the bluepill explanation is applicable to my life, and it explains why the redpill has a huge crush on Chad Thundercock, I saw no reason to assume they were lying. The purple pill subreddit, meanwhile, act…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:57 AM
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Good for you snowflake. I am glad to see everything is working out OK. Things are going shitty, thanks for asking. I came here to find answers for why my friends kept crushing on me, and found out instead that I was supposed to exploit that for sex points to impress a bunch of misogynistic assholes. Thank the Goddess it's not just a bunch of redpills giving each other handjobs here, or I'd still be just as lost. Why the fuck do you think 50 shades is the best selling mommy porn since FOREVER ? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:38 AM
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Which is why it's a good thing more than one someone was willing to take a shot at me. And it turns out....one hell of a lot of women fall into the responsive desire camp.... And hardly anyone else is aware of this fact. That has nothing to do with my criticism. It's the part where you guys think a reactive sexuality will be blown away by a man handling masculinity like a 5 year old playing dress up. Or else that she wants to be the Harley Quinn to someone's Joker. Again, you pick and choose wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 10:43 AM
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So a woman who thinks she is low libido.... because she can barely muster the energy to screw her fat bald hubby once a month.... Will discover a whole rush of libido once My Harley and Leather Jackets swings by with a "How you doin ?" This is the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. You guys managed to figure out a single sexual profile, and you're so proud of yourselves that now you use it for every single woman on the planet. Then you wonder why everyone's laughing at you. It's kind of like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 10:23 AM
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You don't speak on behalf of the redpill. And seriously, when the redpill claims that women suffer from low libido because men just aren't stereotypically male enough, how does that make any sense, for anyone besides women attracted to that type? You guys are living in a bubble, and gaming yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 09:48 AM
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He called the police a few weeks after it happened. Not during the trial for child support. That's normal. Was she even aware she was pregnant then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 09:21 AM
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I find what the redpill subtracts to be more interesting. For example, according to the redpill, therapists shouldn't need to worry about female clients attracted to them. They're the ultimate 'beta male', after all. Listening and sensitivity are all part of the job description. Or take social diseases. According to the redpill, they're not important - a man who sticks his dick into as many attractive strangers as possible is irresistible. Then there's the way they handle asexual women and lesbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 09:15 AM
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I was referring more to the part where the police never got back to him. Him even trying to file a complaint, plus witnesses to her confession, are evidence. Whether or not they're evidence enough, is another matter entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 09:05 AM
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My mom stayed with a man in ill health, my father. He had the worst kind of bad health - it was paranoid schiz, with some disassociative identity disorder. And- Wow, are all of the answers here full of shit. It was love that kept them together. You know, love, a neurochemical addiction similar to cocaine? May cross over to other neurochemical highs? She was also fiercely loyal. And all of these good traits only bit her in the ass when my father's delusions got so bad that it endangered all of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:40 AM
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Your opinion in this case? The police simply didn't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:29 AM
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A feminist conspiracy to keep men out of business...really? And you do know that we're not all biologically incapable of working with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:22 AM
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Either that, or we're aware "sink or swim" leads to tragedy over and over again. The real question is whether you're sheltered or just fortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:19 AM
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Just curious - are you in favor of the victim being forced to pay for the child? Because under our current system, there may be consequences for him, as well. And you don't get to handwave those consequences, or simply take a stand in a world where they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:12 AM
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Female teachers overwhelmingly defended. Where? By dudes who hope it happens to them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTnqcSVhbVg You realize it was linked to feminist sites and subreddits. Feminists representing the movement in the MSM cover up the high incidence of mothers committing child abuse. That says more about the MSM than it does us. What are their motives? You realize we've been talking about predatory women since at least the 90's? Even Jezebel, who are pretty shitty people sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 08:06 AM
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I'll respond more in depth, when I've got some more time free again. For now, I'd like you to respond to this. And a quick observation - your government is slashing away at the social safety net where ever possible. Of course they cut funding for male rape/sexual assault survivors. And if it makes people angry at their ideological opponents, so much the better for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:28 AM
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What I like best about your approach, is that you demand perfection in feminist groups before you'll consider them allies. It's the DOS prompt approach. You crash far too easily, and you're getting in the way of broader acceptance of your platform. Are you really telling me you can't find anything in common with these folks? Go ahead and demonize away. Look for every flaw. It'll just prove you're more anti-feminist than men's rights activist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:41 PM
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My apologies. You were describing how you think second wave style radfems and kids on Tumblr speak for the rest of us. You're also a hypocrite who freely disassociates the MRM from it's worst elements, in a way you won't allow us to do. By all means, continue your angry internet rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:30 PM
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INTP or INFP. According to them, there's only a 4% preference for logic over mediation, and I admit to trying to combine both approaches. At least, I do when I'm not in my anger phase. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:48 PM
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Or that in every case an otherwise identical woman would have it worse. Like I said, you really don't understand kyriarchy. I can easily acknowledge a poor black man in the criminal justice system is facing parts of the machine a poor black woman might not. Ditto a poor white man vs. a poor white woman, for that matter. Curiously, the difference seems really extreme in places where conservative anti-feminists have their way...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 02:50 PM
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That isn't how the theory star It started as an anthropology term. I know some in the MRM believe that women ruled the Earth back in the good old days when they couldn't vote for their leaders and pregnancy could be a death sentence, but there are some things too stupid to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 02:37 PM
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Check out this example of raising awareness about men's issues. Compare it to how /r/men's rights approached this one. The MRM refuses to team up with potential allies, because sacrificing men means nothing to many of them, if it can help them demonize feminism. Not just feminists they disagree with - all feminists. That's their primary goal. It defines almost everything they do, as a movement. And some are so uninformed about men's issues, that they think a society run by anti-feminists is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 02:22 PM
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Ironic, considering you think a patriarchy means every man has it awesome, and ignore all the cruel laughter headed your way from anyone who studies culture and history professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:56 PM
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You still don't know what a kyriarchy is. Or a patriarchy, for that matter. Whatever keeps your hate boner raging. Since other folks at least recognize intersectional feminism, even if they think we're greatly outnumbered, I really can't be bothered to care whether or not you believe a single word you're typing at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 01:23 PM
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Unfortunately, yes, Pizzey was threatened. But so were a lot of feminists. The internet's revealed that there are some really nasty shitheads who want to settle every debate with a threat, and sometimes actual violence, plus all the trolls who really enjoy cheering every side against one another. But that aside, whatever happened to you shouldn't happen to anyone. Thanks for talking about it - the more of us who do, the more it can't be covered up anymore. Not by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 03:50 PM
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Sometimes toxic people do form groups together, and reward toxic behavior. Sometimes, they even manage to provide useful services while doing so. If you're a toxic individual, that model for success looks way more attractive than the other kinds. But what to do about the conscience? Maybe if you claim everyone really does it? Maybe if you claim everyone who doesn't is lying? Or just a weak victim? That's what's really happening here. Their origin stories don't matter so much as their destination…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 02:00 PM
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How are you now? Are you safe? Do you have people to talk to? How is your life in general? I don't know what you've been through, and I won't pretend to know - I was raped by women too, but I found support. Also Mary Koss introduced the Made To Penetrate category in her first campus rape survey - thereby deep-sixing any and all female-perpetrated rape and sexual assault on males. Mary Koss believes the sexual assault of men isn't as serious as the sexual assault of women. On that point, she's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 01:37 PM
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Here. Arrests under the Duluth's primary aggressor model made more headlines when the trend began. To find out more, we'd need to look at specific locations, and track how each police force handles the cases. Because there's dramatically conflicting data on how well reporting a woman's abuse will go for you. You're looking at an alliance between social conservatives and 2nd wavers. Their beliefs about "good girls" vs. the need to punish bad men, plus the sex negativity all align. It's why the CD…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 12:39 PM
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So, here's the task before you. You need to explain why more women were arrested under the modern Duluth model than ever before. Anyone can observe it's been applied unfairly against men. You need to explain why you blame 3rd wave feminism for a patriarchal model that was created before then, and most aggressively attacked by the second wave. Do you even understand the different branches of 3rd wave feminism, or are you like the folks in the media who think a Return of the Kings article signaled…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:46 AM
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That's the redpill, actually. They insist we all need to de-evolve back into gills - their philosophy, in practice, is entirely "our way or the highway".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:21 PM
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In this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:14 PM
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Take some responsibility for a change. The redpill is trying to turn everyone into a caricature of alpha, and pissing out enough hate that it's no surprise some fucked up people buying into it's toxic worldview will turn to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:04 PM
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One more time. They taught me how to engage women on a sexual level. One woman raped me. It shows that they weren't leading me astray when teaching me what women wanted. Contrary to what the redpill preaches. I've reported you. As I said, I'm not playing any more games. You misunderstand lots of comments, whether or not they're badly written, and you look for openings to do so. You never admit your understanding was wrong, and you continue to mock what you wanted me to say, instead. You stalk my…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:57 AM
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I said that feminists taught me how to be attractive, and engage women on a sexual level. Do you see how that might have set me down the path that led me to getting raped by my girlfriend? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:44 AM
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Except he's convinced men have to make the first move. Since I didn't, obviously I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:44 AM
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I said that I learned how to become someone sexually attractive, to some women, because I listened to feminists. One woman took that sexual attraction too far. I understand you need things explained to you. I understand you're terrible at reading any subtext. I'm not going to judge you for that... But I'm not going to play your game anymore, either. You only ever see what you want to see. The years haven't taught you any more wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 03:40 PM
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You're the one who claimed people should settle for terrible sex they don't enjoy, not me. But it sure didn't take you long to bring rape into it. Never very far from your thoughts, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:50 PM
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I know you are but what am I? Good answer! It's very clear you think feminists couldn't possibly have anything to teach about all the communication, foreplay, and actual sex that went into our relationship before she raped me. Not sure why, but that's the hill you've chosen to die on. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:48 PM
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We're just blowing off steam. We mock their bullshit, and we move on. Not sure why you'd look for useful information about sexual strategy there. Or at the redpill, either, since any actual useful information tends to be cherry picked, and available in a more complete form elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:42 PM
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This post sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:26 PM
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They can break the law. It's not hard. "Oh, I had a wonderful time with you, girl from Craigslist. It's so great that lonely men like me can hire someone like you to just keep us company. Oh, sex for me? You shouldn't have."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:12 PM
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Children do get catcalled. It began for too many girls as soon as they hit puberty. To a lesser degree, unattractive people get catcalled too. It's not a compliment. But just hanging out with attractive women in bad neighborhoods, I've learned that catcalling can turn into stalking or violence, fast. Most times it won't, but it only takes one or two incidents before it all seems ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:06 PM
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Fine. Men can hire a hooker. Same deal. Nobody's an involuntary celibate, so long as they can have soul sucking by the numbers sex with someone they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:54 PM
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Every time I go there, all I see is cognitive dissonance and psychological affirmations that TRP is true. Like the way we make fun of them for their homoerotic crush on Chad Thundercock, despite being for gay rights? It's because much of their "Biotruths" are ripped straight out of cuckold porn, without even a repaint to cover the crime, and that kink requires two dudes to really work for everyone. They'd be happier if they just admitted it. Or, maybe you mean the virgin shaming? Because we're f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:49 PM
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No, I'm pretty sure it covers "Learned how to drive a woman wild with lust." Edit: Oh, right. She must have been in my apartment at the time by random chance, and not because we were in a relationship...a relationship that wouldn't have happened, if I hadn't first learned how to actually be someone worth loving, and how to make her feel as wonderful as she could make me feel, before... Does anyone care to explain why I'm being downvoted?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:21 PM
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The blue pill is just there as detox for those of us masochistically torturing ourselves by reading the redpill. There isn't really a blue pill lifestyle, but they needed an enemy in their LARP, so we play along sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:15 PM
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Oh, it's you. Yes, they actually tied me down to the railroad tracks while twirling their stylish moustaches. You have no idea how hard it was to perform under those circumstances. Why did I trust them to help me get past my fears and inhibitions? What could they possibly know about attracting human women?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 01:02 PM
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So, I'm confused - are you arguing that the government and media scaring the shit out of the population, in order to try to control it, is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:38 AM
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Considering that listening to sex positive feminists got me into one exciting relationship after another, as well as raped by my ex, I'm just going to assume that your ideas of what feminists think is based on MRA/Redpill outrage porn and karmabait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:29 AM
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Of course attraction is not just lust at first sight. It's still lust though, it still has a strong element of initial attraction at first sight Wrong. Attraction isn't purely physical. Good chemistry goes a long way. People in long term relationships can be completely mismatched in looks, if they have other things in common, and looks aren't their top priority. Contrary to the skull fucking stupid hate jerks posted to Reddit, many women who can't offer their partner looks aren't being showered …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:25 AM
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High testosterone folks tend to enjoy a higher difficulty than those without. If you try to make something impossible, more men are going to go for it than women. (But as women are more sensitive to their lower amounts of testosterone, it won't exclude women entirely.) It's a good personality trait, in some ways - not all challenges are insurmountable, and they may disguise an opportunity. On the other hand, this mentality can lead to high stakes risk, of win big or lose big, while someone with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 11:09 AM
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Are you a DOS prompt? I really shouldn't need to explain how all this prep work is helping you get ready for a relationship. Do you think it works like a Disney film? You build connections. Attraction isn't always "Lust at first sight."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:54 AM
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Over extending our military, failing to do something about government corruption, and struggling against barbarians? You're probably right. But what does it have to do with this article? Oh, wait, you believe feminism was responsible. Or maybe it was the cooties plague?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:39 AM
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AWALT is our tool!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:37 AM
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You really need to start hanging around a wider range of women 18-25. Studying how to be a decent therapist taught me there's way more demand than supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:28 AM
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Sure. Here was my successful strategy to become attractive, despite being the exact opposite of everything the redpill preaches. I. Open up completely. The trainwreck was inevitable, but led to lots of great advice. For example, not complaining 24/7, or freaking out if nobody was talking to me right away. II. So what to do with myself instead? Join up with a chatroom and practice my social skills in the equivalent of a holodeck. Nobody cares about your looks or nonverbal communication there. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:22 AM
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Like a prostitute? Or perhaps you mean that they can't even figure out how to find sex inside of a committed relationship? You can make the claim, but most of the incel men I've met, just expect sex to spontaneously break out with "high SMV" simply because these men exist. They're spoiled by the media, and would be happier marrying their image board of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:44 AM
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It's normal human behavior when emotionally stunted partners expect to be babied by their new adopted parent, and can't stop themselves from amplifying his emotions when he gets upset, or they're resentful at his weakness, instead of having enough strength and self control to step up and be a rock sometimes too. It's all based on not ruining the fantasy. There's a huge difference between a healthy release of genuine emotion together and turning him into a therapy junkie. Pretending otherwise is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:05 AM
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If I google this, how many porn results am I going to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:55 AM
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Have you read the sequels? "Women on Top" shows the wider range out there today...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:54 AM
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Keep telling yourself that... The incels I've met turned down the thirsty Chads breathing down their throats, so I guess more was needed... Maybe not every woman wants to get jackhammered by an emotionally stunted man whore and his Pokedex of social diseases?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:47 AM
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I'll admit, that was a bad post. The RPW has little to do with what's going on over in RPM. And that's to your credit. But I'm not entirely sure you guys are off the hook on roleplaying. How many captains cry alone, where their first mates can't ever see it? How many first mates bite an honest tongue? That is, in fact, why all fetish bullshit IS female topping from the bottom It can be a problem, but there are many other options. I personally avoid Fetish.com...actually, I've never even heard of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:40 AM
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RP is kink, without the imagination. It's based on what gives tingles, features a lot of role play, and staying in character. We're just more honest about it. As for direct power/soft power - my entire point was that soft power needs to have some empathy for direct. Dumping all the responsibility on them, and asking them to not screw up? Exactly what you're talking about as a problem. The only difference is that the blue pill doesn't always need to spell all of this out in tedious detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:37 PM
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Just curious who downvoted this, and why? Her decision is just a sensible approach to any relationship. Is it the gender stereotyping? Guess it's only not okay when men are involved..? I've tried Captain/First mate dynamics myself. I've hung out with people trying it, and we've all compared notes. There's a world of difference between the exchange of power and simply handing someone complete responsibility for the future. It's exhausting. Especially since, as many Dominants will tell you, submis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:54 PM
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There is nothing wrong with asking people to overcome their instinctive urges in order to not be a victim. We're not talking about urges. When your body decides that you're going into paralysis, it's creating physical changes designed to prevent you from moving. The part where you avoid it, is you're trained to engage in survival behavior instead. Think military training. Think therapy, with a trained professional. Not everyone can afford it, and I've yet to hear your realistic plan for training…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:32 PM
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But the alternative is what, that the mod team says that position isn't allowed here? Do you really want mods to have the kind of control over what people can and can't say? I'd argue that some hard and fast rules for everyone is the wrong approach - there will always be a scenario where such rules make things worse. And I'm okay with newbies getting a little extra hand holding. But there's a difference between hating the actions and hating the group identity. "This behavior, I feel, is rape." m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:48 PM
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No, they are generally arguing against the law or the rules of rape being changed such that having a reasonable belief that you have consent is no longer the legal line. It's not reasonable in the scenario we're describing, and that's why they're losing. desperate and horny vs. survival response I might believe your assessment if I wasn't a high libido man, who was raised in social isolation, and didn't lose my virginity until much later in life. Desperate for the social validation losing virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:42 PM
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You made up the bullshit part where she wants to silence her responsible critics. Try again, this time without the bullshit. Or else defend the "We know where you live, bitch." school of media criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:41 PM
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If we're not going to assume good faith, and look instead to the worst we can imagine about each other, allow me to debate you in that vein... Why do you approve of death/rape threats? I'm not talking the random comedy kind. I'm talking there is no difference from a legitimate threat, and they would be completely illegal if delivered offline. What ideas do they express, that actually criticizing her occasional exaggerations and tabloid journalistic technique wouldn't? Also, should we hold the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:36 PM
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Yes, we'd tell him to break off here and try to create a situation where she is more responsive. The trouble is, you guys are only doing that when someone asks about a very specific situation. Nobody's doing that in the "wave of false accusations in college campuses" threads, and they completely believe that a freeze response is akin to suddenly fainting with a case of the vapors, so that everyone can see how ladylike you are. And I'm not sure you believe otherwise, because you keep insisting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:29 PM
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They can be argued. The problem is when they're argued, clarification is given, and then those who want to make the insults act as if nothing has changed. Strawman arguments will just turn this place into a basic cable debate. If you think psychological coercion is a form of rape, and you think RP is a form of manipulation/coercion, then it's not unreasonable to assume that most if not all rpers are rapists/potential rapists. It's unreasonable to pretend they're all unaware of the possibility, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 03:02 PM
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I already said - list the specific signs that things are going wrong. "Is she wet?" is as useless as "Is he erect?". More useful - Flat monotone voice, emotionally distant or Silence + No physical response at all, or one that's the bare minimum to avoid conflict? (Spreading legs only when you push, while staring blankly into the distance like a war survivor.) What's more important, horrible sex, or taking the risk of traumatizing someone, and dealing with the consequences of that risk? One of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:56 PM
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Alright, thank you for explaining your perspective. Now, consider what I've said before - my stance is, and always has been, if you're the initiating partner, you have a responsibility to keep an eye on your partner's responses. Make certain you know you have consent. It needn't be verbal, but we both can name signs things are going great, and things are going bad, fast. This is useful information to the red, blue, and purple. They're not all great at reading people - some are practically flying…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:37 PM
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So your solution to a risk of rape.... is to stop men cold approaching women ? I know the idea of a strawman is to make you look good, but I'm just going to simply assume you're suffering from impaired judgement. Come back when you're ready to have that adult conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:13 PM
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We've already covered our disagreement over whether or not the Redpill's present beliefs about shock paralysis might lead to a rape. This has nothing to do with redpill philosophy, and everything to do with common sense medical awareness. You can ask men and women to do everything in their power to alert a partner, but when the initiating partner is making a cold approach, and may confuse a lack of responsiveness for 'starfish sex', the odds of something going wrong increase dramatically. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 01:20 PM
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Stereotypes have definitely described trends for thousands of years accurately. You mean like the one about how the Irish can't be civilized? Or were you finally embracing 2nd wave radfem gender theories about a rapist lurking inside every man? We live in an information age. If someone can't find a wise woman, their prejudice announced itself. There's no reason to pretend we've all suffered a lobotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:53 AM
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One of the weaknesses of FeMRAdebate was that similar rules were used to get around the rules against insulting people, and everyone who wanted a war would simply pretend whatever insult they wanted to convey was a genuine belief in the other side's point of view. Is there a good reason to believe either of the examples you present? And this is coming from someone with no love for the redpill, who sincerely believes that some of their beliefs about active consent might lead to a rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 04:46 AM
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What's offered without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Nothing in Op's rant is worth debating. None of the crude stereotypes offered are any more true now than they were the first several thousand years they were offered. At some point, a line needs to be drawn - either you take learning about the world seriously, or you're really just an angry group of reactionary men just like every other group of angry reactionaries throughout history. If the redpill needs an actual explanation f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 04:01 PM
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A cheerful troll with a sense of humor beats the other kind. You have a good day too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 03:42 PM
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Ah. Dunning-Kruger strikes again. Nevermind then, bask in the light of your own brilliance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 02:47 PM
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I was an artist, who hung out with all the creative types. Also, psychology majors. I know the STEM cells of Reddit have a jerk going over how worthless all those are, mostly because of the struggle to understand anything deeper than fan art and how many regard psychology as a con game like good Scientologists... But. There were a lot of creative women capable of comprehending complicated things without having them explained, considering that theory you just pulled out of your ass. Also - Top wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 02:43 PM
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I was being sarcastic to combat you're sarcasm. You were playing dumb, so I called you out on it. Anyone who knows the difference between all the forms of intelligence, is too smart to make the argument you did, in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:58 PM
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Right. Memorization doesn't equal insight, creativity, or judgement. Otherwise, our computers would be teaching us. Now, if you can explain, in depth, how you've come to the conclusion that women can't exhibit those traits? Start with "My anecdotal data..."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:54 PM
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Being emotionally vulnerable around women keeps landing me in relationships/the friend with benefits zone. But I tend to avoid women who have weird beliefs about what men should be. If you're trying to get into their pants, I can understand your perspective. Edit: Oh, right - AWALT, so anyone's experiences to the contrary are irrelevant to the circlejerk we're aiming for, in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:43 PM
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You brought up patriarchy, not me. I'm all about updating our understanding of the kyriarchy. How's your morning going? Pretty decent, considering. Yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:36 PM
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You can't find anything wrong with the claim that women and the Chinese are basically overeducated parrots? Because I can find plenty of white men who are too, in any decent internet circlejerk. And the claim that nobody can be both an artist and a philosopher? Do I need to spell out what's gone wrong there?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:26 PM
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Your bitterness totally justifies any lazy stereotypes you both may share.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:26 PM
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Now read the rest of it, without your beer goggles on. I'll wait, if you need to sober up first.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:15 PM
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Meanwhile, all it takes for a feminist to speak for all feminists are government connections. Or a tumblr account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:03 PM
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I'll edit to spell it all out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:00 PM
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More self-serving fantasy bullshit. In the real world, people tend to pair up with people like themselves for any LTR. That goes for looks too. Unless they're looking for something else, in which case, looks are overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 11:47 AM
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Most Most. Also, you're not controlling for all variables. A woman struggling with a serious mental illness - or more than one - quickly finds that there are a lot of shallow assholes out there. Especially if she's more intelligent than average, but is isolated from her intellectual peers. I've seen it. Over and over again. If all I cared about was looks, right now, I'd be married to a model with submissive tendencies and a belief that, outside of abuse, divorce comes from the devil. Also aborti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 03:12 PM
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Right, your kids might be absolutely fucked, but who cares? Your childhood is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:34 AM
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If you want to have sex with attractive women, you need to either be an 8+ male model or make A LOT of money. I understand you fear and resent them, but not all attractive women consider looks and money their top priorities. Not that he's going to be providing anything else with his "I've got to fuck an attractive woman. Any attractive woman will do!" attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:25 AM
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Actually, I said "make work". Hobbies can provide a purpose. So can volunteering. And you're the only one who called him a loser. I don't think of him that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:49 AM
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Okay, let's go back to the past then. Once upon a time... The females were scared. Their new master, moving like a panther among them, could smell it. But was it just fear? His heart beat faster. He felt a stirring down below. The air seemed alive, like the moments before a storm. And suddenly, he knew. He grinned at the youngest, tearing her apart in a single glance. She turned her head away in shame, and clutched her breast, harder than was necessary to protect it. The fear in her eyes wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:10 AM
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Still waiting for you to point out an actual flaw instead of getting offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 01:56 AM
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You sound like a few of my friends...only they went for the "It's weird, and you're hilarious." approach to dealing with sexuals, like evil puppetmasters. Can I ask - what brings you to this corner of the net?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 12:05 AM
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It's not just men pressuring for it. My ex simply ignored my rule against it, and she didn't even like anal. She just wanted the thrill of doing something taboo. Another ex wouldn't stop talking about anal. Ever. That was a really short relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:54 PM
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Not sure, honestly. I'm a guy with mostly women as friends, who only women seem to understand, and everything I know about flirting and battles of wit, I learned from women? My girlfriends have all been bi, and one thought she was a lesbian before we hooked up. Make of that, what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:46 PM
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Oh, right. How could I forget? Women's bad relationships reveal what they really want, while men's bad relationships reveal what women really want. I love that you guys picked the redpill as the metaphor of choice for your escape from reality. If you never get your hopes up, you can't be hurt. It's the most masculine return to the womb ever imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:43 PM
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I know. But parody, while exaggerated, reveals a lot of truths that most won't dare admit. I've seen incels who actually believe all this. Besides, minus the misogyny - It's kind of like facing a haunted house mirror of my past self? This is cathartic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:33 PM
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Developing my personality!? T-that's ...some kind of erotic mind control?! NO! You must give me sex, of your own free will, and get nothing in return! Stop pretending to be incel. You just hate women too much to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:17 PM
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This tells me that redpill men really want to fuck women who treat them like shit. Maybe all this cuckolding fantasy is because you're really a bunch of subs in denial?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:12 PM
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Doesn't do any good. I can recite the "Sex is beautiful and someday the right someone will - " speech by heart now. And those who don't go for that one, just say "It's not important." It's like - serious panic attacks without warning...you get to be afraid of being afraid. It's crippling. I've been homeless already, because I was completely frozen when my roommate wanted to upgrade our friendship, and things were just too uncomfortable after... It's not something I can just ignore...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:04 PM
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Hang out with other asexuals. It'll help. They're not all aromantic, and there are women who would kill for a guy who wants to cuddle and have fun, but not demand sex. I mean, you're not going to be attractive to most people, but you're very attractive to some people, if that makes any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:55 PM
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Yeah, that'll do it. Hmm... May I make a suggestion? Make your inability to get innuendo work for you. Let them see you try to process whether or not it's innuendo. It'll make you come across as an innocent, and there are people who enjoy teasing/corrupting innocence. Especially if you're an easy blusher. Or, play it as deliberately teasing them for being afraid to say it, by playing innocent like a sadist, and there's a few women who will go out of their way to make sure you know exactly what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:52 PM
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Nah. Phobias are phobias. And PTSD triggers just make them worse. But. No matter how crazy you feel when they hit, you'll always come back from it. Also, you have no idea how comforting it is that you can understand analogies. Whenever I log onto Reddit, I feel like I'm on an alien planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:26 PM
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I already mentioned the part about primitive base impulses. I already mentioned the part about to varying degrees. You just didn't like me insulting it at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:22 PM
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You seem to be thinking you're talking to an evil woman, rather than another guy who used to think he was an untouchable incel until I decided to actually improve myself, rather than singing about how I was never meant for Heaven's light.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:19 PM
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Ditto. And people really don't get it. It's like "Imagine a fear of spiders, and spiders live inside of you, and everyone you know." It's a really shitty way to live. And I'm not sure who is worse - the people who think you really need to meet their tarantulas ("Pet it!") or the people who think you're so pure and noble for being terrified, and hope you never change. Sorry...about the rant. And the spiders. I just...have never met anyone who is still scared. Everyone else I meet speaks of it pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:15 PM
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Or if you actually read about their bodies, so if you ever met up with a woman you could give a spine melting massage? It's an easy way for things to escalate. We do live in an information age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:05 PM
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Right, I should have added that ya'll believe women don't mature fully, and need a strong masculine guiding hand, or they'll manic pixie themselves to death on the cock carousel. Also, they only see in men's eyes, a series of selfies that totally validate them. Though that validation can also come from babies! They're like cats, but you can mold them into your personal army. It's because the feminine is weak, selfish, and confused, you see. It needs to be saved from itself. Because if it has it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:03 PM
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So...I'm not the only one? o.o ... Why are we here again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:25 PM
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Pretty sure most butch lesbians can do better than a shallow homophobe. If any try to flirt with you, just tell them you're flattered but you're straight. If it goes beyond that, the fact that they're a butch lesbian is the least of your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:24 PM
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Why did whatever god or deity exists think it is ok to endow someone with less than 12 inches? Out of consideration for a woman's agony? Because impaling her gut through her through her cervix sounds like one of the most painful deaths I can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:19 PM
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It helps if you don't overthink it. It's vaginal/anal, (with an exception for female on female) because magical medieval virginity powers (for straight women)/depowering (for everyone else) sticks with you until you're as close as possible to traditional PiV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:04 PM
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Seeking to improve themselves or their condition through a relationship. This can be through a disciplined man with social status, and talents/skills, or a wild man with "tingles", or just finding a beta provider to sucker into being her wallet/emotional tampon. Oh! Or, if he's a sociopath, that's the hottest. The redpill has learned a lot about women from Charles Manson. (Most women in human services, by contrast, were born post-wall.) It also adds that if women see a serious problem or twenty …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:55 PM
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My first girlfriend used to tell me to "think with your dick" but I had no frame of reference for what that means. Like what is "horny"? Or "physical release"? Your dick gets hard yeah but theres nothing there. You sound asexual. There's a myth that asexuals don't experience any kind of sexual stimulus, but for many, it's more like, there's not an automatic connection between the turn-on and someone else. For most people with an active sex drive, think of it like being hungry. You want something…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:31 PM
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Flips the bird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:19 PM
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So what did the doctors do? I have the feelings you are talking about Psychiatric malpractice. Yeah. I have schiz, but because it was caught in time, I showed no signs. My doctor assumed there must have been a mistake. Not that I can entirely blame them - these were new anti-psychotics, and my schiz isn't the most common type. So, he took me off of it. This was a mistake. Worse, it was a mistake that happened when my old doctor was retiring. My new doctor decided I must have OCD, instead. He had…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:16 PM
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH, Wow, do you need to get out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:35 PM
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You made some really great points about me not being a sports fan, which totally wreck my points about women's soccer kicking ass in terms of American viewership.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:33 PM
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Not really sure what's that about No, you're doing it wrong. When you see something like that, you ask what the doctors did, if you're curious, or leave it go, if you're not. That way, you express some empathy and find out what information you're missing. Right now, you're talking in machine code, which is terrible for getting to know people. Nor that You really need me to explain what a troll is, or what it means when a woman "gets wet"? Or this I'd just be myself when I talked to women (not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:30 PM
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IF there was money there, They would be fucking doing anything to get it. They can only do what actually occurs to them. Tell me, do YOU have a membership to a local/state female sporting team? I also never played a Pokemon game. So, there's no way it'll ever succeed. Note: Ridiculously overpriced professionals assured us the Gameboy was dead, and JRPGs were a niche' genre, which only a few socially stunted boys ever played.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:20 PM
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Also, Rugby's top 20 hard men. It could always be a porno, but Jesus Christ, you're insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:17 PM
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If your only male role models come from the WWE, I can understand how you'd think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:13 PM
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So why, then, in my new role as the Department of Education's Mental Health Tsar, have I called for a strict and rigorously enforced age limit of 16 to be placed on gym memberships, unless accompanied by a supervising adult? Can you point to the part where she only bans men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:09 PM
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Thank you for providing an example of the sexism I brought up earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:01 PM
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90 percent of everything is garbage. And the soft sciences are why women are actually making progress in corporate, these days. It's not like anyone else was attempting to measure emotional health, social relationships, and group dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:01 PM
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It's okay. I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:52 PM
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10/10 in looks If I were a 10/10 in looks, I'd show you the photo now. What would I have to lose? People who like me rate me cute to average. People who don't, will find plenty of reasons to keep their clothes on, unless they're into scaring the living shit out of people. Is there a separate scoring system for sociopaths? super promising future in academia or career Once upon a time... Put it to you this way, when the doctors fucked me up, I was just beginning to make connections for my art and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:49 PM
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Of course. And that's why the internet makes fun of the redpill. You guys just try to hack your way past her firewall, and you have no idea how depressing that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:59 PM
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Based on reading the headlines linked to Reddit? There's plenty of use for them in corporate, when diverse populations are trying to get along and generate the best work possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:46 PM
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Okay, that one was worth an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:43 PM
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I'm sure. Right up until you get to the part where women were pressuring me for sex, and compare it to the redpill belief that men chase women, not the other way around, because only women are sensible enough to assign sex with them any value because the world is unfair and hates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:41 PM
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You look for a long term friend with benefits, or learn everything you can to max out your charisma beyond "random asshole" or "nice guy". Seriously, why should you expect complete strangers to drop everything for a night of what they expect to be bad sex? Did you learn everything you know about human sexuality from internet porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:30 PM
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Women only ever try to "fix" bad boys with high SMV who already have the image of an alpha male in their minds but lack the qualitie Actually, some women kept trying to turn me into a badboy alpha male, because I was too shy and insecure, but had all the personality qualities of a good provider. It was hilarious. I was terrified of sex, and they were hitting me with the "Do as thou wilt with this body. Please? I'm naked now - that unlocks your demon form, right?" This circlejerk about women hati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:26 PM
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I wasn't trying to. In fact, I said the opposite, that women explicitly DO NOT play at the same level as men. And my point was that it's not an excuse for people who insist that women's sports are inferior to men's, because sports are about competition, or we wouldn't have salary caps and weight classes. Women's sports, when handled correctly by promoters and advertisers, are just as entertaining, and can bring in money too. In fact, many male athletes are overpaid, compared to the actual money …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:00 PM
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AWALT - all women are like that, to varying degrees. It's a survival strategy, ensuring the best chance of success. It begins by listing some common base human instincts, while ignoring others, remains sketchy on higher level thinking, then adds horror stories. It shows all the common logical fallacies associated with anger's effects on judgement, especially when it comes to group stereotyping, and a detail oriented preference for the negative, which is why accepting it as an objective reality a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:50 PM
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Yeah, you're all about the stereotypes. You assume I mock fedoras, when I'm more likely to observe they were considered stylish until Wal-Mart started selling them, and it's more about class warfare than fighting for women. I used the term neckbeard while arguing that anyone who completely fits the stereotype is likely mythology or a deliberate reactionary choice. There's also some able-ism there. But I'm not going to apologize for mocking men who harass my friends and loved ones, then hide behi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:37 PM
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Sure. We're kicking ass in the soft sciences vs. the sciences designed to get a headline from some idiot who doesn't understand science. It's just a pity that the manosphere only focuses on feminists who play to the media, or Tumblr. It's why they're playing catch-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:21 PM
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My point was that pretending women are exactly the same as men, is discrimination which favors men. You've yet to prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:17 PM
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Except I've been fucked over by life, and I've seen the other side of women. They're not saints...most of them... But. People who've been fucked over go one of two ways. Either they will fuck over everyone else on the planet to get out of their situation, or they unite in community to elevate everyone. At least, everyone who shares their ideals. Believe me, I'd still be a virgin if there hadn't been so much pressure to let some people have their way with me. Meanwhile, power tends to be a disinh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:15 PM
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You claim it as a fact that AWALT, because you insist short term mating strategies + long term mating strategies for women who prefer traditional gender roles covers everybody. Doesn't work that way, unless you're pitching a wacky sitcom to the red states. There are women who try to fix emotionally vulnerable men, and even if you can't admit women might be telling the truth on that front, at least look at all the porn they're masturbating to. Seriously, you want to acknowledge every single part …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:11 PM
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How women compared to other women is why there's a difference in viewership. At least when they had full ad support. Stop playing stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 04:01 PM
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I'm sure you'll be happy to know that what I actually want is for all men to strive to help each other for the sake of their own gender and slam every single woman who dares to shame a man for NOT being chad thundercock. That's actually a pleasant change. I wish there were more of you. I mean that. No, I take their gains as a result of power and influence, just like any other group's gain. I'm not sure what you're referring to. That feminists are to be thanked for stuff? No, my point is that thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:38 PM
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I like the top show on the sidebar, where we see that if women were faced with an army of souless plastic automatons from another planet, they'd prefer to fuck the one with the broadest shoulders first, with height and penis size closely related. Only men would perform science this brain damaged. "We've got to remove all the other variables, or we won't be able to prove how shallow women are!" The one with the big penis, by the way, exhibits a penis that, when flaccid, is the size of an average …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:28 PM
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Because people are more interested in the competition among closely matched individuals than forcing women to play exactly like dudes with way more muscle mass? Just check out the WNBA. Boring as Hell, because they refuse to lower the baskets. They won't acknowledge that the women aren't as tall as the men, and many of the best jumpers in the world are going into dance instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:17 PM
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They underperformed compared to their international counterparts. The women didn't. How the women performed compared to men doesn't matter. Remember boxing? Unless you want to make every dude compete with each other, and deal with the lawsuits from all the instant lobotomies, nobody cares. Stop making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:13 PM
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Oh, if we're going to get into specifics, you forgot to account for any impulse control, or reigniting the spark, plus polyamorous couples who remain faithful to each other while allowing full sexual exploration. You forgot to account for low libido/asexual women. You forgot to account for the fact that we've found genetic structures which determine whether or not someone's more likely to be a cheater. If you can account for all those in your Crayola sketch, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:10 PM
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The money is there. Just because some middle aged dudes (and not others) failed at it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If we'd listened to you, there never would have been a Sims. Or a Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:05 PM
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So, basically, to sum up, you take any recent gains by women for granted, assume that money and power automatically redistributed itself according to wants and needs the moment we discovered sexism is a bad thing. I give you credit for giving a shit about the men left behind by society, assuming you do, when the manosphere has made it taboo to ask anyone what they're actually doing. And refuses to reign in any man who crushes other men, because ya'll want to be Chad Thundercock too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:03 PM
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Yeah, dudes are so rational about their dicks. Especially when it comes to size... Tell us again, how important it is that they're so big they're able to make a woman's cervix bleed! No woman would ever want a comfortable ride!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:58 PM
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Show me where the guy who claims he naturally hates women and regards them as a masturbation aid listed a single reason to convince you he's able to break that frame, ever? Like I said, he's a roleplayer. If not in real life, he's certainly full of shit here. If you want to interact with a desperate personals ad, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:56 PM
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Pair bonding is a neurochemical similar to cocaine. Some people also experience natural highs when performing altruistic deeds, regardless of social approval. Stop pretending basic brain chemistry doesn't exist. Reality isn't going to change to accommodate your emotional shields. It just makes you look like you're missing some really important parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:51 PM
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No need to force anyone to watch. Women's soccer set records in the US. And all it took was advertisers taking them seriously, when the men underperformed. The problem is that you want to ignore the fact that men dominate advertising and media. Their narratives and their goals, are what define our culture. It's not just men who are sick of the "My husband is such a stupid piece of manchild trash and I'm a humorless gatekeeper of sex" commercials and comedies. Men think that's something everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:44 PM
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They want a guy who will challenge them, sure. But a guy who gives them an automatic fail no matter what they do, isn't really challenging them, is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:34 PM
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I like the part best where you pretend we've never met an unattractive and socially awkward dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:31 PM
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That's why there are women who stay by dudes in comas/after strokes, etc. I know it's tempting to hide away after you've been burned, but maybe you've had too much internet...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:28 PM
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You can bet they don't put ugly women on the pedestal. That's why it's considered offensive, by many woman, of any level or definition of attractive. "I have functional eyeballs, and I learned everything I know about a relationship from Charlie Brown/Disney/Google image search." Also, I've seen women you'd probably regard as unattractive be placed on pedestals too. It's getting tiresome reminding the horny shallow folks here, but sexual objectification of intelligence is a thing, even if it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:25 PM
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If you can't acknowledge when a woman is doing something right, if your secret is to ignore her/devalue her no matter what she says, you're just a roleplayer. If you're not doing that bullshit, don't give hope to those who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:16 PM
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Hi. Mind explaining why you're "my way or the highway"? Because that's the real reason incels don't get laid. I mean, shit, here's information out there, if you look, on how to give people an orgasm with your voice alone. I know, because I read it, and applied it, and it works. The problem is, it's not called "How to give people an orgasm with your voice alone." It's called public speaking, massage, and how to write a good story that invokes the senses. And I shouldn't need to explain how that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:14 PM
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Just curious - can you explain things like why women's athletics don't earn nearly as much money as the men? Because I've noticed a lot of men have zero problems with boxing weight divisions, but add women to the mix, and suddenly it's lowering standards. So much for the thrill of competition. It's like how I can tune into a match of the year on NXT between two women, and then watch them get called up to the big leagues, where they'll play reality show stereotypes during the piss break matches. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:55 PM
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It comes from limited contact. They see redpill men, with the worst of redpill women offered as an occasional curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:30 PM
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Yes, you roleplay a high value guy, and experience some success. Pity it's crippling to her growth, but that's the way parasites are, in the circle of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:26 PM
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And I hung out in internet kink chatrooms, where my ability to give good conversation, meant I got way too much attention, because the women were desperate for a guy to talk about something other than sex. Location is everything. Think outside of the box, a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:20 PM
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Can you be more specific? Apologies, but...I don't understand what people are doing wrong, and it's difficult to find any information. Most of my friends are either trying to be Quasimodo or turn flirting into an artform/IQ test.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:15 PM
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Yeah, nice fairy tale. This is true if you're looking for a quick hook-up in the usual locations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:09 PM
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In a heartbeat. It'd be the quickest cure for a sex phobia. As fun as it's been meeting men and women who want to help, there are just as many who really, really, just want to get off to scaring the crap out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:06 PM
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The law is already changing. Silence is not consent. And I really doubt that forcing neckbeards to make sure they're not raping someone is going to result in more prosecutions, over the long run. We've known about the freeze response in sexual assault victims since the 70's. There's no excuse for ignorance in the public now. Yes, we need to teach people with a freeze reflex how to get past that, but it's not easy. You need to actually scare people first. Good luck getting that into classrooms. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:00 PM
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Because outside of their subreddit, I can have an actual conversation with the red pill women. They'll admit traditional gender roles aren't for everyone, but are trying their best to play a support role. Some may find some success, some will be exploited by abusive assholes, but at least other options exist in their worldview, if this doesn't work out for them. And it's depressing watching the Red Pill Men and Blue Pill pretend they aren't real. But at least they've been pro-active about dealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:40 PM
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Or, I've spent the past few years at /r/mensrights and /r/theredpill, dealing with overcompensation, to the point where every woman is assumed guilty, and proof in her defense often means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:32 PM
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You keep claiming that. But your method is to take someone with a serious mental handicap, who can't tell that it's bad to finger fuck a complete stranger, and tell them that it's okay. No wonder why the red pill can't figure out how to get laid. Their enablers have built a crib for them, and don't give a shit who pays. One more time - when the worst kind of shock paralysis hits, you can't even speak, unless you're trained. Someone who takes advantage of it, probably isn't innocent - you've yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:21 PM
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The part where they think millions of other people are LYING when they log into the internet, and talk about their sexual and relationship failures...and successes? They hurt, but they devalue other people's pain. They demand respect, but refuse to give it. They're a toxic circlejerk that's elevated the anger phase into a self righteous hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:12 PM
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Who are these "people" you keep naming? The worst feminists of Tumblr and traditional minded men who feel they need to protect everyone with a womb?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:09 PM
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I want to replace that line with nobody thinking sex is an automatic green light, just because you froze. I'm not okay with casualties. There are way more people with PTSD than your imaginary neckbeard who can't tell when someone doesn't want to be fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:59 AM
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You're not reporting what actually happened. She was chased from the scene before she could finish. You're also going to argue that whipping someone determined to be silent can't contribute to any paralysis when it turns into a scene that might spread a disease or create a new life? Rape is never just about the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:57 AM
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I'd love to debate them, but they hand out bans like they're trick or treat candy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:08 PM
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Also, a correction: Shia LaBeouf's exhibit did not give people permission to do whatever they wanted to, with him. As soon as everyone was aware of what was happening, they moved quick to rescue him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:07 PM
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Another problem. Those same guys who can't see whether or not she's terrified? They've appointed themselves the judge of whether or not she really meant "No."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:04 PM
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The ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:53 PM
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I think we are seeing the same scenes. If that were true, you wouldn't deny Shia LaBeouf was raped. Also, I'm trying to raise awareness of this problem, so the socially awkward neckbeards don't actually rape anyone. Because whether you like it or not, when your body decides to force you to play dead, words may be beyond you. Traumatized women who play nice and say the wrong things, without giving consent, while they freeze up and scream at themselves to escape, is another problem entirely. Contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:26 PM
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Ah... So if you have previous agreement, then proceeding further is perfectly fine ? I wouldn;t have said so. I'd have given the standard "break off, go do something else, return later" advice. Seems you are more of a hardass than me. I have multiple sexual assault PTSD, and a sex phobia. Taking things one step at a time, and learning to face my fears, with someone I trust - it's why I'm not a corpse. Because flight, fight, or freeze would hit hard, I always needed to give detailed consent befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:07 PM
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One is awkwardly attempting to address a mutual problem - it's making the partner with the low libido the cause of the problem, but whatever, at least there's an effort being made, and some sign that the relationship actually matters. I'll be here all night, if I try to tackle every problem. The other is just trying to scare someone into staying, and ripping them a new one. Can you understand that even if there are no differences to you, there are to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:21 PM
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Look at it this way - were you ever able to tell when someone was in the mood, even without a "yes"? Because if you can't, I don't believe you're married. You don't need to tell me what signs you look for. Just take a moment to think about them, and the warmth they bring with them. Now, I need to ask... How many of those signs are "Suddenly goes silent, eyes unblinking, totally unresponsive, like they're having a stroke?" or "Shaking bad. Curls up in a protective fetal position while crying, see…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 02:11 PM
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It could be a lot of things. In order to even have half a clue, I'd need to actually watch the show. But this is the internet, so here's my irresponsible guess instead - Maturity is way more important to the people who actually have it, than to those who don't. And some dudes actually enjoy being a father. Of course, this tells us nothing about whether or not they're compatible, whether either one's wired to cheat, what will happen when things are at their worst, or what secrets they might have.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:37 PM
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Because you're scaring the shit out of wounded men who think women will cheat on them the first chance they get, unless they Dom her? If you guys were a positive influence, I wouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:23 PM
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For those who don't want to rationalize rape away, here's why you need to get some form of consent before trying to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 01:08 PM
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Hence, why "Yes means yes." is a thing now, despite efforts to claim it's all about trapping innocent young men. Women may freeze. So can men. Men may become irrationally lustful. So can women. "mad with lust" Not an actual medical condition. legal line
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:28 PM
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You really don't see a difference between incompatible sex drives, and "You're going to die alone without me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:44 AM
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Any given day, check out the top posts on GoneWild. Do you believe they're representative of the general population? Right now, they have 400+ users online, and it's nowhere near a peak hour. I don't believe every story that makes it's way there, but the reality is that some of us are statistical anomalies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:41 AM
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Welcome to the wide world of science. Freezing up to a sudden sexual assault is a thing. Want to try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:24 AM
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Just curious - how do you hamster away all the stories where the woman is the victim of a cheating spouse? Do you only care when it's a man in pain? Also, I'd love to hear the redpill theory on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:19 AM
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Here they are, totally hamstering away a man being raped by a woman. You were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:46 AM
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Can you explain how bisexual and pansexual women follow these theories? Just curious. Because while I've happily shared everything I did to avoid getting laid with you, I never got around to actually confessing what finally turned me into a complete slut, and they factor in pretty heavily. Also, if you can explain how a desire for masculine men among their traditionally straight counterparts totally means melting for insecure dudes who freak out if you're not in the mood? I've heard what many st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:31 AM
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Except, I can see the redpill make up bullshit, without even trying. And I'm not talking about "open to interpretation" or "conflicting evidence." For example - I. The redpill's claim that women's brains don't mature? Why don't you publish that one? It'll revolutionize neuroscience. II. The frequent claim that it's not rape, if the victim is too paralyzed from shock to do or say anything when you suddenly sexually assault them? That's the kind of advice that could destroy two lives. You guys cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:30 AM
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Hey, you're the one who thought a woman who said she didn't like muscles was lying to herself. I was just observing how incredibly full of shit you were, and everything you've said since has only proven my point. If you want to think of that as a victory, by all means...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 07:09 AM
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In my experience they're basically adults by 24-25 or they're never really adults. It's because you're literally not a full grown adult until your early to mid-twenties. I never said everyone matures. But when you're claiming that AWALT childish, like most of the Redpill does, it's kind of impossible to ignore their preference for women so young...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 11:31 AM
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Yours is a minority opinion. By the rule of the redpill stereotypes as a "good enough" science, you don't even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 11:07 AM
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Status trumps all A television actor, back when that wasn't respected, in a sci-fi show that was canceled in it's third season (and only got a third season because nerds really liked it), before sci-fi became famous? What makes him higher status than any random senator or CEO? Besides, women hit on men for their intelligence/wisdom/creativity quite often, even if they're not successful yet. If you've never experienced it, maybe you need to lift more than your weights. muscular men Not sure why y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 10:13 AM
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I think you'll find most people immensely benefit from TRP because it's astonishingly accurate in describing the realities of male/female attraction. For example, the part where the red pill describes women as the oldest teenagers in the room, is completely true, because they'll only date teenagers. Once their brains begin to mature in their mid-twenties, women mysteriously lose their beauty, and it has nothing to do with the red pill being a bunch of shallow shits with control issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 08:59 AM
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Except, in the real world, this dude drove women mad with lust. Nimoy played like a bottled cyclone. The sacks of Spock mail reached 10,000 letters a month, mostly from women, much of it torridly erotic. Leonard Nimoy fan clubs sprang up all over. So, the real question is why you're denying reality? Is it because you're projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 08:53 AM
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I've seen the list of risks. They're frequently exaggerated, like the myth about most or even all divorces ending in alimony to the wife, or come from sources like these.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 07:10 PM
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By that logic, any rape survivor is completely justified in fearing and hating everyone who belongs to the same demographic as their rapist. Do you accept responsibility for the consequences of people practicing that philosophy?
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 06:51 PM
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And it's a very small penis. Exchanging grade school insults has been a real step up in the quality of this conversation. You only hurt yourself when you try to understand people.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 06:33 PM
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Your dialogue is very movie treatment friendly, compared to most field reports, especially the snappy comeback, ending in no reaction from them. Also, each of these women accurately represents every other woman, because "AWALT, LULZ!", which is the first rule of hard science. (By which I mean science typed with an angry erection and no peer review.) I breathlessly await the next chapter.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 12:40 PM
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Say you actually manage to bang one, she can still say you raped her, even if she had a smile on her face Meanwhile, on planet Earth, most rape claims, true or false, never see a courtroom, much less a conviction. Reddit focuses on worst case scenarios. It's like refusing to go to the beach, because of Shark Week. For some reason, her word has more weight, EVEN THOUGH SHE ALSO HAS NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT SHE WAS RAPED. He said/she said is rarely enough reason for a conviction. drinking There a…
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 12:17 PM
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Indeed. Obelisks originally were "phallic". And doors were vaginas. But why stop there? A belly button can either be an asshole or a clitoris. Goatees are obviously meant to represent public hair. And it's very clear that your posts represent your dick. There is no Freud in my post Yes, there is. Your brand of evolutionary psychology de-evolved. You would have if I hadn't quoted it. Not really. I'm kind of proud of it. pedantic correction Well, you had to be right about something, sooner or late…
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 12:06 PM
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I'll trust Forbes and InvestingDaily over a random Redditor, thanks.
/r/MGTOW13/09/15 03:12 AM
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They're not aware, because a lipstick smile only screams exposed vagina the same way the Washington monument screams penis. Like I said, your Freud is hilarious. Especially given the sexual repression and issues with mothers. And don't worry, I'm not going to erase my post. I love where this is going. You're a beautiful example of Dunning/Kruger in action.
/r/MGTOW12/09/15 10:49 PM
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Shareholders can decide to sell their shares, if they have no faith in a CEO, negatively impacting the value of the company's stocks. Historically, when women were hired for the job, their evaluation hasn't always reflected the company's actual performance.
/r/MGTOW12/09/15 10:39 PM
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Half of them will be paying alimony and/or child support. When only 15% of divorces involve alimony, and most men don't even try for custody, don't you think that soundbite is a little misleading?
/r/MGTOW12/09/15 09:17 PM
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it is subconsciously "seen" and interpreted in the lower regions of ALL male mammalian brains as the tempting/taunting "please fuck me" presentation-display of an ostensible submissive. This is especially believable if you're not aware of how basic color theory works, ignore culture whenever possible, and abstract thought makes you break out in a rash. A corporate CEO wearing a traditional lipstick choice isn't trying to look like a lost little sheep, looking for her shepherd. She's instead tryi…
/r/MGTOW12/09/15 09:02 PM
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An example of them mocking someone who never gave her consent. Flight, fight, and freeze are the body's three reactions to danger. If you trigger a freeze in someone, they're literally being forced to play dead. Contrary to popular Reddit opinion, they don't get a vote in it, and it's not for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 06:13 AM
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When you took the redpill, did you swallow the whole bottle? He was one of the few men in my life that were truly kind and respectful to me, which is why I latched on to him so much. Oh, look, Chad joined the bluepill. Yeah, I should have said... writing men after blue pill just seemed wrong. It didn't fit without the quotation marks. I understand that your learned everything you know about being a man during your journey to defeat Duke Nukem Forever, but surely there are better ways to get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:39 AM
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Rape game is when you assume "No." is a tease without making damn sure of it. Some people have been abused all their lives, until they find themselves reflexively saying yes to things that will hurt them. For them to say "No." is a huge step forward. Making them say "No" over and over and over again, until they finally give the answer you want, or just don't say anything, anymore, while they're triggered to hell and back? That can wreck the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:28 AM
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Vanity is associated with women/gays. Maybe for you. It's kind of the opposite of the tomboys I usually end up hanging out with. I always did think that RPers had a very similar thinking pattern as radical feminists. Just tweaked a little bit. I watched TERFs discover "The Red Pill". They were excited that it confirmed everything they believed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:49 AM
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It's the overcompensation. Many Redpills come off as a one dimensional caricature of straight men, and the refusal for many to see it while hating on women and worshipping at the throne of Chad Thundercock is exactly the same behavior I've seen in some closeted folks who later came out. When posters upvote "faggot" as an appropriate name for kids when they misbehave, it quickly becomes interesting. In many cases, I suspect it's just because they're completely tone deaf and reactionary, but since…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:50 PM
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Notice the part where men arrested him? Of course not! Let's talk some more about how fucked up and spoiled women are. Bring on the karma train, choo-choo!
/r/MensRights09/09/15 08:52 AM
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It's a shame that you didn't double check any of this, because you made some good points. For example, Vietnam and the draft. Fortunately, we don't draft for such horrors any more. But still - Forensic science digest and Kanin again? You do realize that the former regarded women as more likely to be lying if they wanted to be examined by another woman or got pregnant from the rape? And even then, couldn't actually get the numbers you're claiming? As for Kanin, he's refused to let anyone double c…
/r/MensRights09/09/15 08:32 AM
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If the redpill was offering that kind of honesty, nobody would object in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:32 PM
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Right, too much sincerity in the boy's lockerroom. Keep keeping frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 03:30 PM
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Because it is. Some of us are turned on by intelligence, and not in a "we're better than you" kind of way. We're just as shallow as those attracted to appearance, but in a different direction. We needed a word to describe that, because brain damaged idiots kept insisting that looks always come first for everyone. Apparently, STEM majors are terrible at identifying projection - who'd have thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:32 AM
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My ex tortured her hamster to death for fun. It fucked me up way worse than anything she ever did to me. Please tell me that your sister got help/arrested?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:10 AM
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So, how do you guys answer critics who observe that the best, most successful couples are those who manage to enter into a win/win sync up, based on understanding each other as individuals? Your stereotypes are generally based on the promise that you can hack one narrow personality range like a computer, and you're coasting on misogyny to cover the giant gaping holes everyone else on the planet can see in that game plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 06:01 AM
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No, no, you're getting confused. A fetish for stupid people is known as taking the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:54 AM
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The key word is "Objectively." Not sure how you missed that, but if you could go back and edit your post now that you've re-read everything and re-evaluated the life decisions that brought you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:51 AM
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An even better analogy would be a feminist teaching men not to rape, because it's in their natures to want to dominate women, regardless of consent. Also, it's a more hopeful message, because it suggests men don't want to give into their worst natures, while the redpill has no such hope for women. But there's an explosion of outrage whenever someone makes the suggestion seriously, or even ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:32 PM
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This also ties in to the fact that I deal with domestic violence survivors on a daily basis, and some of the things TRP says come perilously close (and cross in to) the things DV survivors have internalized. Can you expand on this? I'm a DV survivor, and so are some of my friends. And while I can recognize the redpill is toxic, I'd prefer to hear a professional opinion on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:28 PM
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You should play F.A.T.A.L., the roleplaying game for sociopaths who think "The average men were rapists" is historically accurate. Historians certainly agree that the game exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:17 PM
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If gender and sex are the same thing, how does this quack explain the masculinized brains of autistic cis-women vs. the masculinized brains of trans men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:13 PM
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Because we're talking to racists who keep arguing black women are objectively less attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:10 PM
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Because an outside observer is always less objective than someone actually in the relationship? You have an endlessly fascinating view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 02:03 PM
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In general, men are more "forgiving" of women's lack of physical attractiveness than women are forgiving of men's lack of physical attractiveness. Explain these statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:53 PM
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But it's in your base nature to be one. Also, men are known to lie. Women should be careful, because AMALT. See? Redpill logic about women, applied to men. How does it feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:36 PM
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Dammit, I briefly got my hopes up that one of the good gentlemen here had somehow become enlightened, until I saw it was you. :p with the hungry eye of an aging supermodel stumbling upon a lonely billionaire. That's a depressingly accurate way to describe it. It's even more depressing when more than one woman does it at the same time. I really don't know what planet Reddit is living on, where this never happens. (Edit for redpills who often forget: Attractive/unattractive isn't just about looks.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:31 PM
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So, your argument is that life on Earth is inherently logical? But it's curious that they'd leap to the conclusion she was confused. Maybe she just wanted a middle of the road frog like herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:17 PM
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It's not just the name. Without doxxing myself, other names online lean more towards clockwork, nightmares, and blood as a theme. Also, NOTAGIRL, but that was just me giving up, and picking the most feminine internet username I could think of. Still, I find it amusing whenever I come across someone essentially saying you don't know wtf you're on about cause you're a feeeemale. At least until they find out I'm not an evil feeeemale, then they argue I don't know anything about women at all. If onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 01:11 PM
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I've yet to go anywhere, where they don't make this mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:54 AM
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She's saying she likes analogies. Why are you so terrible at understanding women? Should we trust you to be giving advice about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:49 AM
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Have not met many male submissives who were desperate to prove that the only successful method to find partners and stay in long term relationships with women is to become their property. Because I've never once advocated becoming a slave? Just what are you cooking up in your meth lab? Your views are useless to red pillers because you are the antithesis of a dominant leaning male. Your views are of no use to sadistic Dominant such as myself in a long term M/s relationship because your role has a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 11:43 AM
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There's that cuckold fetish breaking out again. Christ, you guys should just make a porno already. The view that the majority of the world actually behaves this way requires dumbing shit down to porn caricatures, ignoring anyone who reports different, cherry picking science, and a lot of guilty masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:13 AM
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If someone uses you, they're usually promising you more than a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:08 AM
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There are hundreds of millions of people in the US alone. Even 3 percent of them would still be millions of women. Since the redpill is usually describing women with no empathy, damaged maturity, poor reasoning, high partner counts, and no sense of shame... Because no matter what philosophies it claims, we're talking about the redpill as many posters actually practice it... 3 percent seems generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 04:00 AM
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Objectification is when you think of someone like a trophy, or furniture. You don't care about anything except the visual or the purpose. Sexual objectification is when what makes you hard/wet is all that matters. It can be a horrible thing, if someone uses you. But. Consensual sexual objectification between two people can be fun, if you don't carry it beyond the sex parts. Sexually objectifying characters who don't really exist is common, and it's only a serious problem when it floods the marke…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:50 AM
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They're wanting you to show you empathize with their pain, and they're shit at analogies, and empathy. And communication of any sort. Not to mention, they're assholes who never stop bringing up rape and trying to devalue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:42 AM
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A better analogy - think of the woman who has her child switched with another. It's closer to that, in terms of potentially inflicting traumatic emotion. But in this case, the one who replaced the child was the one you love. And there will be no consequences for her betrayal, beyond you possibly leaving the life you've shared together. For many men, there's already a fear of being disposable, or not really loved. Not being able to trust anyone. It's why so many masculine narratives are about a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:31 AM
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That's nice. I'm unemployed, and my roommates have been women. Maybe the problem is just assholes, of both the male and female variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:25 AM
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If that's not his fetish, anyways. You realize you live in a world where "financial domination" exists? Anyways, it's pretty clear the redpill is obsessed with it, because it gets really pissed off when you talk about men who are neither alpha or beta cliche, and women who prefer sensitive. It can't address either point, beyond "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" Which is a great talking point, in grade school, but fails to win converts beyond men who are terrified of being replaced and men who want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:23 AM
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Different couples, different explanations. The relationship is all about her, and she has the empathy of an intestinal parasite. He's being modest. As long as you don't take modesty too far, it can be attractive to some women. She's aware of his low self-esteem, but thinks she can help, or he compensates for it in other ways. She's trying to push forward the pluses when they're in public, because she has his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:17 AM
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Not at all. After all, the redpill is all about bedding as many of them as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:13 AM
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They upvoted the claim that if a woman doesn't have sex with you in an hour of meeting you, she's just not into you. It's possible many of them are still underage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:10 AM
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Most women know that a guy who claims to be a nice guy is usually far from one who is actually a good guy. Also, sounds like he was an incredibly fascinating fellow! I'm sure they couldn't wait to talk about how nice he was!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:07 AM
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I can always count on cartoonish amounts of shallow elitism in this subreddit. If you think she's too big to be sexually attractive to anyone, you really need to get out into the world more often, you sheltered little snowflake. We're not all hooking up at the meat-markets, and standards change if you think you can make a sincere connection with someone. This is just as hilarious as when the redpill tried to claim a guy was low SMV because he didn't lift, and had a body they rated too thin. Neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 03:03 AM
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As a male submissive leaning switch, I'm especially able to call you guys out on your brain damaged ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX bullshit. Especially while watching patented redpill techniques crash and burn with women who aren't into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 02:51 AM
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They're meeting women who are already looking for a physical connection. They don't represent every woman, or the entire planet would be using Tinder. You're not including women who need an emotional connection, first. Or those who suffer from crippling anxiety disorders, fundamentalist cultures, or who've been burned before. You're also not including women who do plan to fuck you, once they've made sure you know what you're doing first... Among, many, many, others. I mean, crap, I've had sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:30 PM
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You're the sex God claiming every woman attracted to you will fuck you in an hour. It's an odd delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:15 PM
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Hahahahahaahahaha, wow. So, the woman who took my virginity...by force (she had advance permission for consensual non-consent, due to my PTSD)...wasn't attracted to me? Interesting. Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:12 PM
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You seem to be claiming you only don't care about looks because you have no choice. I don't think most men would pick an emotionally abusive woman with stunning looks over one who made them look forward to each day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:09 PM
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Okay, I'll play. If she's only with me because of my penis size, I already broke up with her. And I'm currently in a relationship with a woman who has a wife who thrills her in all the ways you describe for number one. I prefer our mental connection to the just sex my exes offered me. Besides, she's encouraged me to pursue whatever physical connection other women offer, and already helped one sexually harass me... It's not like I'm really lacking either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:59 PM
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People, and women, often don't believe this, but the lowest SMV men are the ones settling for looks and not minding an obese or very homely girl Except, for me, a woman with an amazing mind, who creates worlds for us to explore together, who can argue philosophy with me, who brings out the best in me, shit - I fall in love every time. She is the most beautiful person on the planet to me. Looks don't really factor. If I only wanted a conventionally beautiful face to look at, I'll do an image sear…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:33 PM
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Yeah, that one was just sad. I've met a lot of women trying that dread game... Has it worked for anyone? I'd love to hear some success stories. I've only seen it buy time...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:22 PM
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we dont want men reading us I've glanced in from time to time, because I was challenged by one of your members to open my mind. And yeah, you're pretty far from being the desperate fangirls of the men's side that Reddit claims...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:19 PM
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Varies depending on the individual. Sooner or later, you're going to realize that a bunch of angry men who've all been burned aren't the most objective judges of character, and stop relying on their stereotypes as guides to human behavior. Are you really saying women don't buy the men they love Christmas gifts, birthday gifts, and sometimes just for fun gifts? Because we're talking about more than just the first few dates, in red states, or countries where they abort most of their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:09 PM
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So, basically, everyone who couldn't get their ideal mate, is holding back everyone else they might give their heart to, according to redpill theory? Good way to play on people's insecurities. I'm not seeing any self-improvement. Just a demand that real life be more like Disney porn. And male hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:02 PM
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Because it says women are more generous. In other words, many women are the ones buying stuff to show their love. The exact opposite of a gold digger. That's the problem with redpill theory. It claims women want a porn star, a Dom, or a wallet. Sure, some women do. The rest are being deliberately ignored so the redpill can circlejerk about how horrible women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:45 PM
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Technically, it's not just the money. There's an art to gift giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:41 PM
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It's implied we're talking about the evaluation of the women rejecting them. If you want a legal document spelling it all out, we'll be here all night. The man is "trying to buy her off". The blame is still on him. Instead, he is responding to what he knows the woman values. If he couldn't pay for her, obviously she doesn't value money as much as you think. If it was just an ordinary courting, he probably wouldn't be accused of trying to spend his way into her heart. Many men with an actual sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:39 PM
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hey look, the top 2 items on the list of things women say they want but never actually follow through on. I keep hearing about how feminist women don't want feminist men, and I'm beginning to think you guys actually believe it. Of course, any feminist who offers their own contradictory experience is a liar, because covering your ears and screaming to make the bad thing go away is always the most mature response. So, who burned you, and why do you associate them with all women? And by the way, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:33 PM
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It has nothing to do with "men not having anything else to offer" - they aren't useless husks of men. Why do you assume a man has nothing to offer the world just because a woman rejected him, and was offended by him trying to buy her off? I said nothing about the potential of the men in this scenario, how other women would rate them, or who they are to everyone else in their lives. We all have more to offer than just being someone's partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:26 PM
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developing traits women are looking for... Like developing feminist beliefs, or developing a sincere interest in a woman they're only planning on using as a disposable sex toy? Good to know. I'm skeptical, of course, but maybe they'll make me eat that doubt yet. really? I only ever needed help with shrinky type things once in my life; the female shrink who did my triage assesment pegged me as bipolar & in dire need of medication. The head of department who ended up speaking with me regularly jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:20 PM
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Circlejerk is a good excuse for " Don't think differently". So is Reddit's karma system. If too many people get in, who don't agree with the group's goals, they can easily derail everything. Then the core users would just move to another subreddit and the problem returns. Do you really believe that if a ton of feminists decided to invade the redpill all at once, they wouldn't get banned for debating the basic purpose of the subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:12 PM
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Who spends more money on the opposite sex there? In my experience? Whoever has more money, or it's a split check and shared bills. But I won't deny there are men who are afraid to allow anyone to spend on them, for fear of losing face, and women whose company is expensive. Often the blame is placed on the man for trying to spend money to buy love, but it is evident they use that method because they are responding to women's desires. If we're going to be honest to the point of cruelty, the blame …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 06:02 PM
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Shrugs. I can never figure out how you confuse simply giving a shit with a superiority complex. We can't all turn off our concern for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 05:28 PM
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The inherent problem with the redpill isn't the knowledge they've gained. It's the bullshit that's grown around it. They're faking traits women are looking for, with some admitting to lying in order to get laid, expressing nothing but contempt for women looking for men who agree with their ideals. Others are burying their untreated anxiety/depression issues, which leads to horrible outcomes in the long run. And they're encouraging a one dimensional view of success which is going to probably end …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 05:19 PM
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Lol. Where did the theory come from? Feminists. Who created it? Feminists. Who lobbied for the laws? Feminists. I forgot, time froze, and we never left the beginnings of the third wave. Nobody's learned anything since. Thanks for reminding me. Hey, when you take a piss on the feminists who agree we need a gender neutral approach to domestic violence, is it a sexual thing for you? Because it's pretty clear helping men isn't your priority, or you'd actually be looking for allies. The manosphere ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 05:02 PM
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You mean people get upset if you break the jerk in a circlejerk? Do tell. As for the related discussion subreddits, yeah, they're too quick to ban, and they can be condescending, but if they weren't strict, they'd be flooded. Kind of like how 2x has become the "men's opinions on women's issues" subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:51 PM
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Yup, women associate money with love. It's why they're more giving of it than men, which was the biggest gender difference observed between the two. If we still lived in the early 20th century, you could pretend it was other people's money, but as it is, you're really stretching to justify your premise. The researchers even admit they didn't do enough research to find out whether or not men could become hoarders, and fuck everyone around them over that way. What are your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:43 PM
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Nice. Now re-read it again. Notice the part where it asked why being a feminist is considered a hate crime? Now, look at your post. What does it have to do with anything? It's an honor to be insulted by an expert on dumb assholes, with so much personal experience in actually being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:39 PM
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If you count the redpill and /r/gendercritical as major gender oriented subs, sure. You're beautiful when you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 04:37 PM
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I also know way too much about rape and false accusations of rape. I'm all kinds of fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:38 PM
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The co-dependent people I've met in real life, come from abuse. Some are assholes, some aren't. I met a few who were pretty awesome people once they escaped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:33 PM
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Nope, but if they're sacrificing for another, they're at least trying to be. And the odds go up considerably, that they're outward oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:17 PM
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The Duluth model, which features a primary aggressor model to be determined by the officer at the scene, and offended gender traditionalists when women started being arrested more? You did know it women were being arrested under it, didn't you? And it was the officers, who really make shitty intersectional feminists, by the way, who were responsible for a lot of the misandrist bullshit? Oh, and state legislatures. CDC Yeah, they simply hired the feminist who agreed with their bullshit, while ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:15 PM
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If you hang out in Reddit, sure. They know there's not as much karma coming in for a fair sentencing. Which means that a courthouse where everyone's facing the same sentence has as much moral authority around here, as the worst. I wonder what you'd find if you kept track of locations and the people involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:40 PM
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All the pent up frustration, pain, and heartbreak of his life will be unleashed into mostly positive energy. That's good judgement. What about those who say the redpill made them more depressed, more anxious, and they feel like shit? What about those who ruined healthy relationships, because of it? Blue pill assumes RP theory is the quick 5-10 sentence thing (ie: hold frame, lift...) Not all of us. And I'm not nearly as shocked by it as you might think. I've known Goreans, if you're familiar wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:32 PM
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I've dealt with a few sociopaths, and they were all really good at talking about themselves. I've also met some empaths who just got on the scoreboard. This quiz is really testing for functional sociopaths, who know how to manipulate others effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:07 PM
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You claim that the anger phasers are finally seeing the real world - but anger is often cited for it's interference with good judgment. It often relies on shortcuts of thought, and in group vs. outgroup prejudices. Which is why they often fail to represent the theory. What makes this anger any different from it's mirror opposite in women? I'm not talking the women who are right about the theories of feminism. I'm talking the ones who are just as wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:52 PM
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What if, instead of always being coddled by the law, many women are just getting a fairer justice system, which their male counterparts should have access to, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:46 PM
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Fighting lurid generalizations...with lurid generalizations? You aren't much better. The idea is to point out that hyperbole can work either way, and that the situation is the result of immature people, rather than just men, or just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:38 PM
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As a result of holding frame against women bitching at him, Trump is heading upwards in the polls as a candidate for President of the United States. Yes, that's the only reason. Though I'm sure it's the only reason the redpill is voting for him, because let's face it, logical decisions aren't it's strongest suit. Rappers can talk about smacking bitches around, and they've got dime pieces lined up around the block, dripping and ready to go. So do sensitive pop singers and actors. It's almost like…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:36 PM
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So, men acting like violent rage puppies to other men, and doubling or tripling their sentences is a noble maturity for women to emulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:24 PM
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That's fair enough. I've met hypocritical feminists, as well as honest ones. The honest ones always did their own thinking, same as any honest red pills I've met.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:15 PM
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Matt Taylor, on the other hand, cried like a little girl and got beaten on that much harder for it. You have a shit memory. Feminists didn't think the shirt was appropriate. He apologized pretty sincerely. Most feminists were like "Thanks for the apology. It's cool." The manosphere had a nuclear meltdown, meanwhile, because hey, any chance to demonize feminists is one they've got to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:10 PM
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What, I don't get it, what does that have to do with anything? Plenty of them are not compensated for anything, ever seen /r/gonewild? And yet, there are still women paid for taking their clothes off. Quite well, too. It's a reasonable career choice I'm told, all things considered, especially with college being so expensive. Besides, we both know the interaction in /r/gonewild is fairly basic. And most girls might do that on Instagram or Skype to easily get some guy's attention. Most of the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 03:03 PM
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Or if you studied women's issues, the way a cardiologist studies the heart? Why is it a hate crime to specialize? Edit: I wonder if anyone has an actual answer to this? Somehow, I doubt it...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:43 PM
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Because the only feminist thought I've seen referenced from anti-feminists doesn't represent mainstream sex positive intersectional/liberal feminism? I mean, one upvoted philosopher in men's rights patiently explained to me that kyriarchy means white women were more oppressed than the slaves they owned. Genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:41 PM
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All the girls flashing their boobs or asses on the other hand... Who are compensated for their time. Did you think they all enjoyed it? Meanwhile, as a guy who can actually hold an intelligent and, just as important, entertaining conversation with a dancer when she gets off work, without ever asking to see her tits, or treating her like shit to mask insecurity? It's been made more than clear to me, that the supply isn't meeting the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:37 PM
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So, if it's all about alpha status...despite the fact that alpha status was disproven as a thing in wolf packs, and we should take it with a grain of salt... Why do women keep crushing on/having inappropriate fantasies about, their underappreciated therapists? And why is giving sexual healing a fantasy for some women? Are you guys sure you didn't just read too much into The Royal Rumble?
/r/MarriedRedPill29/08/15 02:30 PM
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Granted, all the guys flashing their dicks at complete strangers seem to be operating under a handicap of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:23 PM
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"I want a relationship with mutual respect" Always worked for me. When she tells you to not let her run over you, just assume good faith. I'm one of those idiots who says it, and it's more about my fear of accidentally doing it somehow, and just needing reassurance that we'll be able to communicate with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 01:54 PM
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Find some passive folks. Introduce them to some aggressive folks. Watch them make a trainwreck together. It happens over and over again. You can set your clock by it. If everyone was always both giving, and accepting, while remaining assertive, at all times, this wouldn't ever be a problem. But surprisingly few people are able to achieve that kind of constant perfection. And even people who speak the same language can't always understand each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 01:39 PM
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There are also situations in the middle in which some partners like to be extra forthcoming with something, and can always ask if they are both comfortable with that. Ideally, both partners are forthcoming, and seek the best time for it. For example, if your girlfriend is sick, and has no energy, it might not be the best time to share your thoughts about marathon sex. That's it. That's the big secret to having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:53 PM
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Having determined the baseline value for women is is their very existence, Snorts Good one! I guess, if many women are invisible to you, that might seem a sane and even reasonable statement. By the way, being the gatekeeper of my own sexuality worked out for me. No reason it couldn't work for you. While men's main "critical streak" might be focused more on looks and nurturing ability. Aka "No fatties" or "butterfaces", "don't stick your dick in crazy", and avoid "psycho-bitches". All of which ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:50 PM
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The question is, will she deliberately try to do something she thinks is unjust or harmful to me if I did not "respect my own boundaries"? Some will test you. Some won't. But either way, how is someone supposed to immediately know, everytime it's happening? And why would you ask them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:30 PM
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I like the part where you guys claim women in their teens and early twenties are the best, especially if they need a man to keep their wild mood swings under control - Then when you claim women are the oldest teenagers in the room, you wonder why everyone thinks you're a bit thick. There's also your "ALPHA FUX, BETA BUX" theory, which totally explains why women are masturbating to emasculated vampires and boy bands. It's almost like you whipped your dicks out, and said - "This is the only scient…
/r/MarriedRedPill29/08/15 12:03 PM
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-There's someone for everyone, just try until you meet the right person! I got a lot of that one, from men and women of all ages. The rest, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 11:47 AM
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Not just you, but if everyone was the same, how could a co-dependency exist? Why do some people die trying to save others? And why is it that people who struggle with genuine empathy for others, automatically assume everyone else is the same? I can understand an emotional connection is difficult to make, but there are other senses, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 11:35 AM
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Just curious - how do you handle your wants in a relationship? Do you share them with your partner? All of them? As soon as you have them? Even if it's a bad time? Or. Do you keep them to yourself? Do you sacrifice everything for the one you love? Because these are two very common extremes. Both men and women are guilty of them. And between those two extremes, are the rest of us. When a woman says she doesn't want you to let her walk all over you, she just means she wants to know you respect you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 11:29 AM
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Christ forbid two women have different opinions. By the way, I only graduated high school, and every woman I've ever been in a serious LTR relationship with, went to college, because they're the only people who have the slightest idea what a kyriarchy is. So, if you can stop being a bitter shithead for just one moment, you might actually learn something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:50 AM
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And...what a surprise, a woman is downvoted for saying she had great sex with a five inch cock, because the red pill HATES good news. And has a chest heaving man crush on her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:44 AM
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There's a difference between getting help with social skills, and what the redpill actually does. If they taught swimming lessons, they'd slut shame the women for their swimsuits, then preach a fear of sharks and brain eating parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 07:22 AM
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I hate to admit it, but this is one where the redpill actually has half a clue. Before I hit 30, I used to think older man/younger woman pairings were sexist bullshit. After 30, most of the women hitting on me were late teens to early-mid twenties, and a few were pretty aggressive about it. I think it's more due to a lack of maturity in most men their own age, rather than finding older men more physically attractive. If you give a young attractive man, and an older attractive man the exact same …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:37 AM
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The redpill's sidebar argues they're never more than "the oldest teenagers in the room." This is why they're a misogynistic toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:07 AM
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Yes, a lot of good advice. Sometimes, I'd even try to follow it after I'd exhausted all the other options. The two most important pieces of advice I received were: I. Stop attacking yourself. It not only killed the mood, it tortured it first. II. Playing hard to get is different from playing impossible to get. My first serious love never forgave me for not understanding the difference. If she hadn't made me promise never to do it again, I'd probably still be a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:59 AM
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That's why I only agreed with the - It's reasonable to think men and women might just naturally gravitate towards different professions but let's not pretend that how men/women are treated due to social dynamics doesn't play a role. Part, while rejecting the definition of feminism/blue pill they came up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:36 PM
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I thought you thought I was a woman misunderstanding the realities of being a dude. This is an important distinction for men, because if we want to be successful, we need to figure out what actually causes you to feel the feelings of attraction. We do that by observing the guys you actually go home with. I agree with - The truth is, attraction is an instinct that operates way below your conscious ability to do math. But that doesn't mean the chemistry isn't there. A chemist knows that if you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:31 PM
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If you don't think feminine and masculine are biological, you're welcome to that opinion. High testosterone changes behavior and mindset, but it's nice to be an idealist. Are you a TERF, by chance? If you think all men and women are divided between feminine and masculine equally, and can change as needed, you really need to try keeping up. Society may be unreasonable in it's demands, the differences between feminine and masculine distorted into grotesque caricature, and there are endless complex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:10 PM
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Mild boredom/irritation/amusement is whining now? You really need to reappraise the tones you're associating with me. But text is read in silence, so I don't blame you for it reflecting your thoughts about me. I'm sure the blue is often just as guilty. At the moment, I'm dropping most of my guard, reserving only a little bit of low expectations, in case you decide now would be a good moment to attack. This is due to prior bad experiences, and doesn't reflect on you at all. I agree with everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:02 PM
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I'm a guy. I'm not an attractive one, at least, not in the sense most people associate with the word. I look cute, at best. I mean the "I want to adopt you." kind of way. This isn't a good thing when you're 40. My looks have been held against me, by people who place priority on them. I'm reporting what allowed me to compensate. This really isn't easy for me, because I have a sex phobia, and breaking attraction down to raw mechanics feels dehumanizing. But it's curious the reactions I've been get…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:27 PM
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It's actually more like every single question that's been asked about feminism in here - they're mostly signs of severe brain damage caused by suffocation inside an information vacuum, combined with an addiction to internet outrage porn, and panicking about the worst possible outcomes as if they represented a common trend. With that low bar set, I thought I was actually improving on the ethical standards by sticking to only attacking sentiments with upvotes attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:55 PM
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Right, all those successful corporate CEOs are really hurting, deep inside. And Doms just can't find anyone willing to touch them. But of course, there are limits. What moral values are you objecting to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:24 PM
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Curious. Is a co-dependency self interest? Perhaps if we stretch the meaning of the word, and pretend that nobody in one is self-aware, or making a conscious choice to sacrifice their happiness for another. Such games can entertain young cynics, if they're not up for complications. But. That's the problem when selfish people try to understand anyone different than themselves. Most are pretty shit at it, because they're not motivated by anything other than their own self-interest. evolutionary ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:17 AM
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Have we not met? I'm one of the most hated, extreme, a devious fucks on /r/theredpill. I don't cherry pick the nice shit. Perhaps if you'd tell me what you consider canon, then? And share a few priorities? I can't tell you what anyone's testing, if I don't know what you want tested. Red pill is not misogynistic Hahahahahaha, wow. Thanks for the link. You're cute when you try to offend. Don't get out much, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 02:53 AM
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You seem to count redpill theory as being "The best of redpill". Masculine security, and a traditional view of the genders - both of which can be incredibly helpful to some masculine men and feminine women. I won't deny you that. But. I include "what's getting karma, and what redpill is prepared to allow when attacking out groups." I see little effort to keep the most angry pills in check. They're a wildfire, and their unchecked anger/bitterness/paranoia is toxic to anyone struggling with trust …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 01:20 AM
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Right. I forgot you guys are as literal as a DOS prompt. The point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:44 AM
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Because whenever I just debate what I see, I'm told I don't understand Redpill theory. It's like arguing with Christians who aren't living up to their own scripture, and preach things they didn't get from the Bible, but keep believing the abstract ideals of their best thinkers are more important than any actual practice from the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:39 AM
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If you're an unselfish lover, it counts as a plus in your favor. If you're not physically attractive, you need as many pluses as possible to compensate. Getting laid once isn't nearly as hard as getting laid anywhere near close to often. Isn't that what you guys are focused on?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:36 AM
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You make connections. You do realize the "friendzone" isn't always a "no sex" zone? Many women also compare notes with their friends. Word can get around, if you know what you're doing. It won't be the only thing you're graded on, but you want as many good reviews as possible. Think of it as resume building, if that helps break it down for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:31 AM
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I'm just quoting redpill posters making upvoted comments. If you guys don't know your own theories, who can speak for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 12:19 AM
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The problem with testing redpill theory is that few professionals are using the same terms, so there's a language barrier, and too much of redpill theory conflicts with itself, demands simple answers to complex problems, or exists as a "Take that!" For example, the redpill theory I've seen offered is that "I don't want to be fucked like a fleshlight" can't possibly be criticizing the almighty porn hammer approach to sex - it's talking about basement betas, instead! Chad Thundercock is a sex GOD!…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 06:04 PM
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Exactly, it was all about isolated bubbles, rather than timing and reflecting larger trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:39 PM
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Link to the study. Previous attempts to measure women's responses to an offer of a one night stand were limited to attractive guys just randomly offering complete strangers, which is the kind of clumsy approach you'd expect STEM men to come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:37 PM
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Except I prefer to just provide links to direct evidence whenever possible. Neuroscience may be still in the dark about a lot of things, but it knows enough to prove that the purple pill theory, as you describe it, is the only one worth listening to. It's just that we can argue endlessly over sloppy generalizations, interpretations of conflicting anecdotal data, and the burden of proof. From what I've seen, blue pill prefers to just let things naturally progress in a relationship, and doesn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:30 PM
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Like this? There's also that whole thing that therapists deal with - erotic transference? Just being able to talk freely about sex, their experiences, hopes, and fantasies, turns women on. (Men too.) It's common enough that people who listen to them, deal with a code of ethics about not taking advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:17 PM
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It's not as high for more recent marriages. Did you see the part where they predicted the new statistics if these trends continue? No? And re-read OP. We're not talking about previous generations, which have completely different circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:10 PM
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Keep in mind, the redpill believes women don't have sex for pleasure. It's all about being validated by the redpill's mancrush, Chad Thundercock. But... I'm cute at best (The kiss of death!), and once, with enough experience, my partners began giving positive reviews... v//v I don't know why that's not something more people take the time to learn how...I mean, there are anatomy charts out there to help, plus women sharing their experiences, and with some basic communication...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:06 PM
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There are also studies which show women are turned on by guys who they feel they can tell anything, especially if she thinks he knows what he's doing. But once again, the RP shows why it really stands for roleplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 05:00 PM
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Odd. It was those kind of talks that kept turning my friendships sexual. Maybe you're just really boring, when you talk about sex? Either that, or women aren't The Borg. But that's just silly talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:58 PM
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And repression is great for turning it into an obsession. Ever try not to think about something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:56 PM
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I've added context to my post. You can't claim that modern marriages resemble those of previous generations, because much, much, fewer end in divorce. And OP is talking about modern marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:52 PM
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New marriages have a better chance of making it than 50%. The divorce rate is falling. Which part of that is misleading?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:49 PM
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You can honestly make the claim less people are hitting the anniversary mark, due to less marriage in general. So why the misleading "If you get married, you only have a 50/50 chance.", which requires you to average all couples together, including those from previous generations where sex outside of marriage wasn't socially acceptable? It's a scare tactic, and a cheap bumper sticker, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:47 PM
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Because it's claiming that the data is the same for new couples, as it is for all couples combined, which is misleading as Hell. It used to be much more socially unacceptable to have sex outside of marriage, which resulted in a lot more couples who weren't compatible, long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:43 PM
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If we look at the percentages who made it to the 5 year mark, it's perfectly acceptable to look at the data of couples from as recent as 2010. 10 year anniversary data goes up to 2005. 15? 2000. More people are getting married because they want to, these days, rather than because they need to. The high amount of divorces following the introduction of "no fault" shouldn't be considered a statistical norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:41 PM
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The percentage of people making anniversary marks is on the increase, which can be compared objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 03:57 PM
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Of college-educated people who married in the early 2000s, only about 11 percent divorced by their seventh anniversary, the last year for which data is available. Among people without college degrees, 17 percent were divorced, according to Mr. Wolfers. The 50% myth needs to die. Stop spreading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 03:53 PM
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I found the original, and yeah, it's clear why they edited it. They were doggy style. She wanted to get on top, before they started arguing. How bad they argued, why she wanted to change up (was she uncomfortable?), and how she felt about him telling her she didn't get a vote in how they fucked, I don't know? I also found this. While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she couldn’t legally give her consent. It didn’t help…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 01:44 AM
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I'm just observing that it might explain why some women, as unconcerned with your suffering as you were with her's, might seek revenge after? It's the only reason it would go to court.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:52 PM
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So, you'd just go ahead, and let her suffer the consequences? Really explains why someone might pretend they never said "Yes." A strange bit of poetic justice, if you're convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:46 PM
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Hahahaahahahaahaha. No. They never miss that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:55 PM
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Nah. I read all kinds of in-depth essays on the fear of being too sensitive and losing the sex/relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:55 PM
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I was fucking her ... when all of a sudden she said, "Wait stop ... ." I refused and we argued. ... She tried to squirm away ... so I had to use some muscle to prevent her from escaping. I was able to finish ... . Afterwards I told her she was selfish and couldn't call an audible so late in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:50 PM
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I disagree with the author on banter. Some of the most brutally honest people I've met, keep up a shield of cruel banter. If you take it literally, they're pure evil. But it's a way to both entertain, and reject people without them taking it too personally. The real people underneath are often worth knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:02 PM
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So, I looked at reviews of Models: Attract Women Through Honesty. Written by Roosh's forum. Watching fans of an admitted rapist argue over whether "emotional seduction" was an advanced PUA only for experts made me feel violently ill. Because deep honesty and maintaining a good chemistry with someone... That's also part of just being friends. That's how you make connections that can last you through the bad times. It doesn't need to be limited to sex. Also, the writer's wrong about banter. Banter…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:56 PM
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I wish. This was pre-internet for me, and an overdose of sleeping pills sounded like a peaceful death. Since I was just one of millions of people to have that exact thought, it didn't even come close to killing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:12 PM
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I sincerely hope you do not believe that most cases are like the ones you see on the television, with direct evidence of guilt, like a bullet casing or a photograph. Most cases are won on testimony and cross examination, which does very well in exposing liars. No, it was more learning about how the human brain works, and knowing how easy it would be to abuse that information. Add in the media's love of a good scare... But mostly, it was after a few grillings about my own rape/PTSD by Reddit... s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:20 PM
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This is a refreshing change. Thank you. Most of the Reddit debates I've had... I just spelled out the problem, haven't I? Is there anywhere I can go, to debate legal issues and philosophy, where some common sense is assumed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:39 PM
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California's penal code is so vague that it could either describe "I had a few drinks, lost my inhibitions, and had sex!" as rape, or be attempting to limit it all to "I was half unconscious, and couldn't resist." I'd expect anyone with common sense to know what it means, but what about the rest of the planet? And who defines who has common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:04 PM
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This is rape. The first element is nonconsent, which here manifested itself in the form of crying. The accused proceed to then, in your words, "attack" the victim. How would you prove that consent wasn't given, in a he said/she said? There will be no signs of a struggle, due to the paralysis. Odds are good that someone with a paralysis response will also have a mental health history. The defense is sure to use it. And if they're any good at all, they're also going to take advantage of any holes …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:42 PM
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I'm a man. I was raped by a woman who took advantage of my sexual assault PTSD/sex phobia. I'm now aware that you think concern about serious mental health issues is the same as infantilizing women. Here's the differences - These aren't just about women. A black out drunk regains consciousness. There's also plenty of time before they drink so much they loose all self awareness. Fight, flight, or freeze survival response is also temporary. There's absolutely no reason to have sex with someone in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:18 PM
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The reason for the Yes is Yes, is that it's intended to close off loopholes. For example, we know - and I've personally experienced, the reality that flight, fight, or freeze can make it difficult to speak at all, when going into severe emotional shock. You'd think the lack of a "Yes." and the tears would be a sign there's at least a "Let's talk about this." attached, but some people use the lack of a voiced "No." to go ahead and attack. They're not at all oblivious to what's happening to the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:58 PM
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Especially if you watch all the Reddit anti-feminist subreddits, and think they're objective observers. It amazes me that one of the biggest complaints about subreddits like /r/thebluepill or /r/againstmensrights is that they do the exact same thing back to anti-feminists. The people complaining have zero sense of irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:36 PM
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The problem is bumper stickers and people who expect others to know exactly what they mean by them. Does yes mean yes to you, if the yes is given with a stare at nothing like a doll's eyes, in a monotone voice? Because those are signs of emotional shock, and you should be shutting it down, before the two of you get hurt. Sex isn't such a scarce resource that it'll be your only chance to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:32 PM
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Some women do. Some women don't. But it's not that simple. Some women are emotional terrorists who love their children so much that they can suffocate them. Some are amazing mothers who wonder why they don't strangle the life out of the screaming shit/vomit grenade. It's not an easy job to raise another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:24 PM
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Some loser who constantly keeps "objecting" when someone on their facebook feed posts one picture or article relating to someone they find attractive? How often does that happen? It seems like the worst people are being used to attack everyone else. Granted, that seems to be the entire point of the internet. It is allll about fucking for the ones "raising awareness" in response to a friend not finding BBW's or androgynous boys attractive. I will also admit that the assholes who give everyone els…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:17 PM
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No, it means that they got their views on love from media, and are paying the price. If you don't want to ever get hurt, in even a small sense, you have very high standards. If you want someone who reads your mind, and knows exactly when to seduce you, you have very high standards. If you demand to be loved for who you are, no matter who you are, you may have almost impossible standards. And if you believe excuses about how all women have impossible standards, you're just enabling them. If you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:06 AM
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Down, Scrappy Doo. You're one who took "most of the" out of context, then gave it a new meaning, because your brain shuts down whenever you read my posts. If you want to argue that your friends would accept any woman's love, go for it. I won't argue - it's one of the most insulting things you can tell a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:23 AM
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He's forever alone now. Nobody wants to know him. And it's curious, the conclusions you leap to. I describe a few, you decide they're all. You're so desperate to corner me that it's affecting your judgment. You're interested in winning, not any kind of conversation. You'll also recall I was asked about what I've seen. My life. Not everyone else's on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 02:49 AM
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Oh, right, I forgot. "Government is a myth." And so are public works, and "the social safety net". And even if it existed, the government would be a nice diverse huggy rainbow of diversity all around - hell, men are probably the minority. And it would be free from corporate interference...which is also a diverse huggy rainbow of diversity in the leadership positions. Anyways, you're the only one talking about how nobody gives a shit. I'm limiting it to you don't really give a shit, apparently, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:36 PM
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I am. It's curious how the manosphere refuses to demand the alphas running the country give a little more to their fellow man. You simply change the subject, because you're so anti-feminist that you can't even admit there are powerful men responsible for the state of the world today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:25 PM
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How do you know that? Hanging out with them, and thinking I could help. Introducing them to friends. nuance Let's say a woman grinned, teeth bared as wide as possible. It doesn't really lift her cheeks, just her lips. If anything, her eyes look trapped. They'd read that as a success. They'd continue doing whatever created that expression, or worse, amplify. That's actually how I met the first woman I ever did anything consensual with. She was grateful that someone could accurately read her cry f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 09:07 PM
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that's a bold statement. What do you think a shotgun does to your head? Another bold statement wrapped up in an insult. The cries for help are given help when it's women because they're women. And if I'd never actually been in group therapy, all over this state and the one next door, I might be gullible enough to buy in to what you're saying. Nobody gives a shit when the 22nd veteran commits suicide a day Maybe you don't. I let one move in with me, just to keep him off the streets. Why don't you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:54 PM
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Men successfully commit more suicides, because they're more violent, and they don't care what anyone finding the body sees. The numbers change dramatically when you count failed suicides. I know redpill dogma is that they're all cries for help, because the redpill causes hallucinations, but even the cries for help, are given help, because most of us are not sociopaths who ignore cries for help. I wish more suicides of all genders made cries for help, of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:20 PM
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"I will never know the love of another wah wah wah..." I've met them. My roommate is one. They drive me insane. They've deliberately sabotaged all my efforts to hook them up with someone, because they're too scared to take the risks. I'd have more sympathy, but my fear of sex is fight, flight, or freeze. I scare myself to death every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:15 PM
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You mean the statistics about men refusing to get help, and being shamed for it when they try, often by other men? Or the statistics where more people ought to be helping, because there's a shortage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:59 PM
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If you think neuroscience is in ANY position to actually explain human behavior then you haven't been paying attention. Okay? Plus, it's not even clear that it'll help Don't know what I was thinking. Evopsych explains things with respect to how they would have correlated with reproduction. Which explains why Evopsych scientists are reproducing like rabbits. They actually have a code of ethics about sleeping around with their clients, similar to therapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:56 PM
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That's why the hospital forced me to drink the charcoal. They thought I was a woman. Thanks for clearing it up. No wonder why you guys don't think feminists ever help men. You don't even know what's really out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:06 PM
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There's a difference between someone who struggles, and someone who will never know the love of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:01 PM
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In real life, most of the "forever alones" have really high standards, can't detect nuance in a conversation, and refuse to compromise. They may have an anxiety disorder too... It's pretty much the same thing as Reddit, but with less conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:17 PM
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I prefer neuroscience. Also, if you look at the arts, you can generally find what people want, independent of what they claim they want. Things either appeal to the widest possible mass audience or a steady counterculture, when they want to make a profit. Or, they manage to find crowd funding for when they're targeting a passionate niche'. The problem with Evo Psych, is it's used primarily by people who ignore chemical rewards for novelty and sense of humor - the whole "Surprise!" thrill of expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 03:05 PM
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Yes...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:58 PM
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Judging from their reddit reports? People who struggle with creating a spark. Most are socially awkward, but there are some who are amazing at a conversation - they just don't know how to mutually escalate their way into any fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:50 PM
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She thought she was a lesbian before we got close, but she was bi. Most don't like men and women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:36 PM
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Wow, you discovered our secret! It's allllll about fucking. Christ, you're good. Who cares about accurate media representation? Who cares about mental health, violence, suicides? You have a penis! And it asks all the hard questions! (Pun very definitely intended.) Christ, if these are the truths the redpill represents, it's no wonder why the warning label includes warnings about cloudy thinking, hallucinations, and paranoia. Edit: And by the way, BBW women? A porn category. Feminine men? You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:29 PM
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Considering she preferred women to men? And the feminine to the masculine? I'd have managed to avoid her entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:17 PM
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It's...I don't know. I went through a lot of shit, so people who went through a lot of shit... We talk? Share notes. Try to keep each other sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:16 PM
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She ripped me apart whenever I made a mistake. She kicked me. She fucking raped me. She tried to kill herself. The last time it happened, I called Crisis on her, and let them listen in our Skype. And after that, I finally ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:11 PM
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Here's a handful more. I. He was gay, but in the closet. Dead bedroom was killing her. II. Would invite her to hear all the rape jokes he and his friends could come up with, about her rape. Didn't give a shit about her orgasm. She was a model, by the way. If it wasn't for her crippling self-esteem issues, and her Catholic faith, she probably would have found another. III. Verbally abusive, stole from her mom, and was in and out of jail. (She broke up with him. So did his next girlfriend.) IV. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:08 PM
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One friend flew through a window. She still tried to defend him. I'm pretty sure she could do better. Do you really want the whole depressing list?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:38 PM
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It stays the same, while AWALT is potentially negative, i'd say me and other rpers see a positive side in women as well, otherwise we wouldn't bother. Ditto, but for masculine men. Even the socially awkward kind. Minus the part where I'd ever date one. It's box fort! and I am guarding it, not hiding. Good job, soldier. I leave the transmorgifier/time machine/redpill fort in your hands. Also, upvoted for a sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:30 PM
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we all have a touch of narcissism No, we really don't. I've struggled with the opposite problem most of my life. And learning how to deal with that, eventually meant I met all kinds of people with crippling self confidence issues. I'd scare them to death just by liking them. Which really, set the stage for all kinds of warm fuzzy trolling. It turns out, sadism can be a force for good, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:16 PM
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I'm several shades of mentally ill, poor, cute at my very best, and I have a crippling sex phobia. Oh, and I'm short. If I can get into a relationship, so can everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:04 PM
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May I suggest trying a long distance relationship? I know they're frowned on, but I love the fact that it's impossible to make anything happen before you know each other. It's a great filter. I've met most of my LTR partners in chatrooms, just because there are so few men looking for more than a "pump and dump", who could keep up with them. i do have friends that are very intelligent and i can be whole days and weeks talking about common interests with them How do you find them? I know this has …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 01:02 PM
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It's a fetish some men have. Ditto fisting. Try not to be so literal-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:52 AM
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And I've dated way above, and met way too many women who could do better. Not sure why you think your anecdotal life experience cancels out the life experience of everyone who disagrees with you. Then again, I imagine things change depending on the company you keep. I'm sure that women in the random pick-up scene have many more options than the women who want an intelligent conversation first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:50 AM
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Got it. All women are narcissists, and they never undervalue themselves on your planet. Which one is that, by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:28 AM
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Not really. For example, if a woman tried fisting her previous boyfriend, or kicking him in the balls as hard as she can, to the point he vomited up blood, nobody would think twice if she was reluctant to try again. Now, suppose it's anal that only hurt her? Does her refusing it means she doesn't want his cock as much as she wanted the cock of her previous lovers? She has other ideas in mind for it, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:24 AM
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Except the evidence suggests she's more likely to look for an equal. This is you, right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:14 AM
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The one I showed you was an asshole who thinks anything she did in the past is owed to him. Fuck him. Or, rather, don't. Does that spoiled baby represent the red pill ideal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:09 AM
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He thought she wouldn't respect him for not having enough partners. It had nothing to do with any kind of judgement of her. Also, if you sincerely think someone's a worthless whore and continue to date her anyways, it's pretty clear that it's a toxic co-dependency, one way or another. For both your sakes, I'd recommend seeing other people. Especially given your inability to justify yourself as anything more than a sometimes useful dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 10:52 AM
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Some men are the gender in demand. Some women aren't. Pretending otherwise is an incredibly boring game. Myself, I can't stand shallow people. I'm more attracted to a heart of gold and an imagination to shame the devil than any image.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 10:43 AM
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Of course. You guys are all about making relationships stronger. One of the first posts I saw was a guy who felt insecure about his girlfriend having more partners than him. Can't find it now, but the end result was encouragement for him to break it off with her, and find himself with other women. How is that helping? Unless you're incredibly paranoid about women - which, to be fair, you guys totally are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:11 AM
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Because clearly, insulting any alpha means I must mean them all. So, explain AWALT in light of your new opinion about negative generalizations? Can you attempt to think outside of that cardboard box you're hiding in?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:18 AM
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We're talking about the redpill. You know, in response to the cartoon you scribbled up about the blue. Are you going to argue the redpill doesn't do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:03 AM
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The actual text of the legislation which doesn't say at all what you're reading into it, and which most people agree is vague. Your prejudices seem to be blinding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:39 AM
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I know what the redpill claims feminism stands for. Meanwhile, on planet Earth, most feminists regard enthusiastic consent as being for everyone. If you wanted an echo chamber, you shouldn't have come here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 04:37 AM
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Fairly reputable anti-feminist blogs. Come back when you can offer more than emotional arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:18 AM
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Where did you get that idea? I was raped by a woman who decided my PTSD paralysis was consent enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:32 AM
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Perhaps you've heard of fight, flight, or freeze? It's that last one, that's critical. And an adult gives a shit what's going on with a suddenly unresponsive partner showing signs of emotional trauma. Sex requires taking some responsibility - it's not a place for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:11 AM
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Are you seriously that retarded? The CDC disagrees with the FBI. Next question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:05 AM
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Also, I'm just stereotyping alphas, because they're dangerous. You know, like women. It's just being cautious. Christ, you guys are sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:35 PM
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Obviously. It follows a pattern. Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus If you force this penetration into your own vagina or anus, find me the part where it says you're the real victim, and your victim isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:32 PM
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This is called backpedaling. Or, you're a fragile, easily offended member of the right wing political correctness police with no real sense of humor and a chip on your shoulder. blacks Totally the same as a personality type. I get that the red pill prefers we carefully place every criticism of it in bubble wrap while it calls feminism names, but they're just really horrible at motivating us to be doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:27 PM
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Either that, or I'm throwing some cold water on the alpha worship around here. Please stick to reality. There are good aggressive/assertive/passive men. There are evil aggressive/assertive/passive men. There are men in between. A "do whatever feels right" approach doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:37 PM
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Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim, who is totally the one being penetrated, by the way.” Nope, still not buying into your conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:33 PM
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If we're talking with this analogy, competing alphas will punch the betas before they move onto the alphas. According to the philosophy of Vince McMahon, there's nothing that can go wrong. And then those that can't compete will just become herbivore men. Or suicide bombers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:05 PM
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Come hang out with us, in the bad neighborhoods. There are enough dangerous men who completely believe never losing frame means punishing anyone who gets in your way. Blue pill has no concept of positive masculinity beyond men he Actually, I count men who help children, and men who help other men. We just have different ideas about what counts as helping. For example, giving a man a roof over his head, until he can get on his feet? That's helping. Breaking up his LTR, by playing on his insecurit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:50 PM
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Spoken like someone who's never watched competing alphas punch each other into brain damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:34 PM
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I know. My point was, no, it's ridiculous to claim that giving women basic human rights destroys civilization. It's the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:22 PM
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Sure, why not? For example, let's say we embraced the goals of mainstream feminists, and tomorrow we gave every woman the freedom to rape and murder whoever she chooses without consequence? And rocket launchers. How long would civilization last? This is the exact kind of thing A Voice for Men is trying to prevent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:19 PM
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I like how you deliberately ignore things like romance, creativity, any kind of complicated chemistry above an animal...or maybe you don't? Maybe you can't feel it, can't understand it. Maybe that's why you need the red pill, to learn how to tell you to go through life like you've been programmed for just one type of woman. Oh, and typing in caps just makes you look desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:51 AM
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Do you know what caused the slutwalks? It was the belief that a rape could be prevented, if women would just stop wearing revealing clothes, or having sex. All of which is horrible advice - if anything, rapists are more likely to go for the women who don't dare draw attention to themselves, and have a hard time arguing with orders, for obvious reasons. And many rapists are close friends, family, loved ones. Also, too many women would be called sluts, no matter what they did. Slut shaming doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 11:13 AM
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Should women be serving longer sentences, equal to men's current, or men serving shorter sentences, equal to women's current?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:07 AM
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My point is, what signs can a woman who is trustworthy offer, to give her any advantage over a woman who isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 04:04 AM
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farting is rape Why not post that one to the feminist subreddits, so we can observe how popular the idea really is? Wow, look at the NINE schol So, you missed the part where those were only a few of the scholarships available, and they want you to sign up? Okay. This isn't about race Right. We need to ignore that, so we can keep our anger against women narrow and focused. You still didn't answer whether women should be punished more, or men less? I'm sure you have very specific ideas on the subj…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:13 AM
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Just curious - Which of these feminist run projects are you against? Project Unbreakable. Just Detention International. Successfully lobbying the FBI to include men in it's definition of rape, a definition of rape which says nothing about whether the victim must be the one penetrating or being penetrated?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:38 AM
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It said the victim was kind of fucked up by it, actually. Explain how that's a win?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:30 AM
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I.So, is this a tacit admission that men can't compete with women on an equal, level, playing field? II. Yes means yes generally allows for nonverbal. The idea is simply that the two of you actually check in on each other, like adults. It means you can't plow your way through someone paralyzed in horror, then claim they had an obligation to say "No." III. Your theories on how drunken hook-ups are handled is noted - you should write more legal thrillers. You have a talent for it - taking a few ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 02:12 AM
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Why should we support anti-feminism, when the loudest members in history argue with bullets? We could always question who is writing history, of course, but nah. Better to just claim it's our ideological enemies for reasons of evil and call it a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:50 PM
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Actually, that's been my point. There are men and women in happy LTR that aren't a dead bedroom, despite him being more bluepill/beta/whatever.... So, why does redpill refuse to learn anything from them? Why live your entire life in vague fear, where nothing can really ease it? Is living a single sexual fantasy 24/7 worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:47 PM
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What else do you think is going to happen to whatever you're pointing a gun at? Some level of destruction. It might be only a small amount, it might be a localized event...but unless you're talking toys or rubber bullets, AGALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:40 PM
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Libido inducing doesn't mean indiscriminate libido inducing. And yes, unless there are other factors at work, the second woman probably has more options. But what if the high testosterone didn't turn someone into a model, and she gave up shaving her moustache. Would you and your friends still prefer her over a woman who was maybe 30lbs overweight and had an attractive face, by whatever measure you care to use? Because that's not what I've seen from the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:37 PM
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Sure they are. The idea is that guns are designed only to destroy, and you should always be careful around them, or tragedy can strike. Redpill use this analogy, to describe the many kinds of harm a woman can potentially do. Gun safety isn't for the benefit of the guns, it's for the benefit of the people handling the guns. A common sentiment around redpill, no matter what side you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:30 PM
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Your analogy falls apart. According to you, women are guns. We're handling each other just fine. By the way, most gun owners know how to check whether or not they put bullets into the gun. Unlike the redpill, it seems..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:19 PM
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more likely to be And if you've never met a high libido woman with some extra weight...do come visit Earth, sometimes? I've not noticed them lacking for options. Also, testosterone alone doesn't decide how faithful a man will be, or how many partners he will seek out. That would be vasopressin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:15 PM
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You guys have yet to prove all women cheat, or have a serious desire to. You guys fail to explain basics like why looks don't matter in an LTR. I'm simply looking at people who actually made a good faith effort to explain reality, instead of circlejerking over the most misogynistic explanation. Until you guys up your game, it's still closer to the truth than you'll ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:08 PM
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If you assume all guns are loaded with bullets, you'll probably shoot a child to death for pointing a squirt gun at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:05 PM
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It proves high testosterone does what it does, a finding which will surprise nobody. What about the rest of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:04 PM
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I like how you guys mirror radical feminists comparing men to guns. Gotta admit, they've got the better visual metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:56 PM
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That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. At least I'm looking at reasons why some women actually cheat, and some don't, instead of just ejaculating bitterness all over the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:54 PM
1

Good analogy. I assume it speaks for people who - Don't like redpill. See no need to subscribe to redpill beliefs. Have happy relationships with women/are happy women. Get their kicks from making fun of redpill. You guys do a shitty job of convincing most women that they're loaded guns. But that's the weakness of only targeting insecure/hurt men with your message.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 09:45 PM
1

Why not come visit my love and I on Skype? You're already doing such a great job of entertaining us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:25 PM
1

Makes some popcorn. I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but your feminist issues fascinate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:18 PM
1

Wow, you're already writing an erotic fan fiction about me. You're really obsessed with this, aren't you? Edit: Tell me more about how every feminist just wants to be dominated by a good strong alpha, the way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:11 PM
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It was a serious downgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:09 PM
1

Hey, it's like baby's first troll. So cute. Don't let anyone tell you that you're not special - you just keep at it. But for now - Since you're out of everything except insults, I'll leave you to jerk yourself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 08:02 PM
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Facism: Because I take WWE philosophy seriously. I'm sure only the wisest and haahaahahahha, no sorry, can't finish that one. But fascism is great for diluting the idea pool. It's like mental incest. Can't wait to see what deformities await in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:56 PM
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Not sure what you want to know. I was raised to be afraid of sex, but they taught me how to flirt, how to make my partner feel good, establish my own boundaries...they taught me I wasn't the only one struggling. They introduced me to the varied sexual fantasies of the world. But I forgot - some anecdotal data counts here, and some doesn't. How could I forget to respect your prejudices? Can you even breathe outside of an echo chamber?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 07:52 PM
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And the police threatened me last year because I tried to call 911 on my ex. They were the exact opposite of feminists. They couldn't have been more masculine if they tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:13 PM
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They hear who they want to hear. She tells them men and women are different, so she gets to go where other feminists can't. You pretend it's her casting her witchery, when it's more like she's an Uncle Tom who couldn't let go of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:11 PM
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OH NO, NOT OUR QUEEN! Christ, your argument is stupid. So is she, but please stop rewarding her for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:04 PM
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Except most sex positive don't do that. I owe sex positive feminists for teaching me to accept my sexuality, as a man. What really happens is that the anti-feminist horde obsessively hunts down any feminist who confirms it's beliefs, then organizes a parade so that the entire world may marvel at her. Let the karma/likes fall like confetti!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 05:02 PM
2

I think it's shallow to reduce an entire relationship to someone's asshole. And I'm talking constant pressure and ultimatums. If someone needs anal that bad, in good faith, they're going to bring it up earlier in the relationship, way before it gets to "anal or fuck off". But. Apparently, you're the spoiled child who thinks any disappointment is worthy of ending an entire LTR, regardless of what else it may offer, and has offered. You treat people as if they're disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:54 PM
1

Nice bumper sticker. Libertarianism: A circus without a safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 04:37 PM
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Hey, neat, you rewarded the guy who told you what you'd already decided. Tell me, do feminist works only count if they're marching under a feminist flag, or are you prepared to talk about this like an adult? Because feminism is why we take women's health seriously, these days - we used to use men as a baseline for everything. And while click bait and karma whoring focuses on the myth that men can't be raped, then pretends feminists say it, have you ever looked at how feminists on Reddit answer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:58 PM
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Because usually it's less about a serious fetish, where he needs anal in order to be emotionally fulfilled, and more about power plays where he doesn't like someone having hard limits. I'm not going to just ignore the existence of abusive personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:52 PM
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The subtext where I said I don't believe it's wrong to have needs in a relationship, but not all wants are needs? It's really only subtext if you're playing stupid, or actually have a serious handicap. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:39 PM
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So, subtext really doesn't exist for you? Wow. No wonder why you needed the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:16 PM
2

Age: 40 Occupation: Was an artist, and an advice columnist for a social rehab center before the disease hit and everything went to Hell. These days, I annoy people who have no hope by doing my best manic pixie dream impersonation. It seems to actually work, if you don't go overboard with it, and there's some genuine compatibility. Country: USA. Marital Status: Submissive leaning switch. What pill are you: No idea. Can someone define what the blue pill actually is, in concrete terms? (If such a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:14 PM
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Because it was a stupid question. You created a strawman, lit a torch - why should I stop you? The remote possibility you genuinely believe that's what I was telling you, only makes this more entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 01:36 PM
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"I need anal now, like oxygen!" Yeah, I can agree that he should be allowed to leave. They'd both be much better off. Also, he should get a doctor's note, and show it to every woman he dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 01:32 PM
2

Because clearly, someone who is afraid they'll never see you again if they don't give you anal, is offering enthusiastic consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:34 PM
3

It's basically like a Dungeon Master's guide to monsters. You don't know what stats any individual woman has, or what attacks she's going to use, but if you're a high enough level she might be captured by your Poke' balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 03:20 AM
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They probably don't even know how professional help can actually help them. Unless you actually study these things, how would you even find out? Most movies, most television, most games, go out of their way to mock the professionals. And there are just enough people who are bad at their jobs, that almost everyone has a favorite horror story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:50 AM
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Probably depends where you go, who you know. I generally prefer the company of other people who don't want a short term. Any relationships I've been in, I was more or less drafted because I wasn't behaving like other men. But I've certainly met women who preferred alphas, and went out of their way to try to push me into redpill behavior. I'm just not sure why you think that's new? "All I want is a nice guy" I've never heard anyone ever say these words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:45 AM
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Not everyone is able to understand other people as well as you or I, and you know it. They come to you guys for advice - not more abuse. Their lives are usually already fucked up enough without you pushing them off a cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:29 AM
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I saw the red pill talk a man into being even more paranoid about his lack of sexual success compared to his girlfriend's, despite his insistence that she'd been good to him. And let's not forget the "If she loses her libido, it's because you're too beta, and she just wants your money!" from the good doctors. Can't be stress, can't be the pill, can't be depression, or a variable on again, off again, libido... It's not worth even debating that kind of brain damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:17 AM
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You don't need to be a TRPer to lie and emotionally abuse others. No, but I've seen the redpill actively encourage it, which is another matter completely. Second, your usage of language seems to reveal a belief that somehow seduction removes agency. No, it doesn't. My concern is that the redpill doesn't give a shit about hurting the other partner. The ability to turn off your empathy is generally regarded as a core trait among sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:00 AM
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After watching the redpill lie repeatedly, boast about lying, and wreck marriages by teaching it's own members to be paranoid? I probably should be angry. I'm a little worried that I'm not. And disappointed that you missed the point of all this - that while anger can be healthy, the revenge you guys are encouraging is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:35 PM
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Good. And I mean it. You have my respect... Now, about all the redpills who are lying, emotionally abusing others, seducing people already in a relationship, and insisting AMALT/AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 11:02 PM
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Shrugs. Getting rid of the cognitive dissonance was a painful and rage inducing process. Tell me - why is it okay when the red pill does it, but not when it's directed back at you? You do know that your poison doesn't exist in a vacuum?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:59 PM
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Just lying and pushing/emotional abuse until a no becomes whatever you want it to be. Then pretending that's not abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:55 PM
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Oh, please. We manage to get laid without making anyone else's life worse or sabotaging long term relationships. The redpill just uses the little common sense good advice it gives as cover for being a hate group at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:50 PM
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Recent research showed that incidental anger (created through movies, readings, and memories of anger-inducing events) seeped over to employees’ judgments of their coworkers and acquaintances. Compared to happy and sad participants, angry participants felt less trusting of these coworkers, though they played no role in evoking the employees’ anger. Consistent with the Appraisal-Tendency Framework, participants ratings of individuals’ control of their own actions mediated the participants’ lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:34 PM
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So, here's a point: Giving into rage makes things worse. Anger damages judgement. And no amount of bitter self-pity will change either of these facts. The redpill isn't about self-improvement - it's non-abusive advice is generic as Hell. It's about tearing everyone down with you, and getting revenge. It's a child's game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:17 PM
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Most women don't want to be on a pedestal. You guys placed them there. Now you want women to pay for your mistake, because they didn't accept the gift of being exactly what you wanted. And you're going to overreact in the opposite direction. Yeah, that's mature. No wonder nobody was fucking you for your personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:55 PM
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Fortunately, I never had an orgasm in class. I still don't know why mom thought that might be a problem, and I'm okay with never finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:02 PM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 03:49 AM
1

Great. So then you have even less reason to speak for me. I've met some good athletes, but I prefer a good writing partner. Or someone who makes me laugh, and can laugh herself, until I think we're both going to die. If you think that's bullshit, it just reminds me how lucky I am that I don't share your boyfriend's appraisal of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 11:21 PM
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Got it. Your penis speaks for me. I can't be attracted to intelligence, or an expressive face, because you can't jerk to it. Does your dick have any other lessons to teach?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 10:43 PM
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We dated. She was my ex. I consented, back before she started drinking. The terpers are constantly crowing and harping how they just "speak the hard cold truth" without regard to the sensitivities of rational, well-adjusted people. And I'm pretty fucked up just from reading them. Seeing it from other people...why am I even here? Have fun. Enjoy the race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:29 PM
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I'm watching shallow assholes vs. paranoid misogynists. I'm really not sure who I want to win, anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:17 PM
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The woman who raped me was much more attractive...good to know it was a wish fantasy come true. She argued it was. You're shallow as Hell. f you're a 3; all you're gonna fuck is another 3 (or under). Then someone still fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:15 PM
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You failed to address the part where women are more sensitive to testosterone (which is an androgen) than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:10 PM
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Let's do another analogy. Man is at an NYC Starbucks with his Macbook. Someone grabs the Macbook, and runs off with it. Other people blame him for flashing his Mac around. Call him a liar, and say he wanted it. Someone screams that these false accusations are going to destroy the world as we know it. Man's mocked by complete strangers, who also threaten to steal his TV. Oh. And he gets a bullet straight into the gut. He's pressured to keep it, because the infection looks cute. I hope you underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:03 PM
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Uh-huh. You've arm-chair analyzed people on the internet based on them talking trash, and decided "desperate sociopathic losers" can pass for a professional diagnosis? Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:58 PM
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Testosterone levels affect women as well. However, women create lower levels and are more sensitive to androgens than men. Got that? It is an individual's responsibility to protect themselves from rape. Do tell? Let's hear how you blame the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:47 PM
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cares whether a bunch of randoms on the internet take it seriously. And they can spend hours telling you why they don't care, bakka!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:25 PM
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When you guys roll up stereotypes like these, like proud dung beetles, does it ever occur to you that you're the last people who should ever advocate for male rape survivors, and that you have nothing to say for relationships involving women with higher libidos than their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:18 PM
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I think I'm just cute on my best days, and it would be nice to be good to people without worrying about them crushing on me and complicating ruining everything. Obviously, looks play some part, especially for shallow people, but how important they are, and how much you need, varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:12 PM
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How overweight are we talking about? I've seen a redpill post claiming 30lbs over is a social death sentence. And by frumpy, I'm assuming just comfortable clothes - jeans and a T? I tend to hang out with women who are creative, can make me laugh, have a good sense of ethics, and are sex positive. They don't all look the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:05 PM
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If they avoid all women who lack emotional maturity and they view all women as emotionally immature than they would avoid all women which they don't I said they avoid women who have emotional maturity, not the lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:44 PM
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So, the woman who paid for my meal after asking me out is a terrible feminist, or a good one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:41 PM
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modelling is also a surprisingly difficult career, meaning that being a perfect 10 isn't the main criteria they go on. It's certainly helpful but you can talent your way there so long as you're still attractive. Plus willing to avoid sun damage, watch your diet, and are okay with being objectified to Hell and back by strangers. It can't be an easy path - the models I met with mental health problems were as lonely as I was, and I was terrified of people back then. With that said - You can still t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:37 PM
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I had the exact opposite experience. Being sensitive to other people's emotional needs kept turning into being asked to be sensitive to their romantic/sexual needs. End result: I feel like I have no use besides giving people a cheap erotic thrill and sorting out their messes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:08 PM
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I said that they avoid women with more emotional maturity. According to them, age grants a woman nothing, by order of their ephebophile boners. This despite the mountain of evidence which suggests that our brains don't finish maturing until mid-twenties at the earliest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:37 PM
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No, really, you guys do a great job of convincing them men don't really give a shit about them, unless they're from Stepford, and that otherwise, they're completely disposable cum dumpsters. Take a bow. This is MGTOW not TRP, totally different This is linked in the sidebar
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 01:20 PM
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They're not just skeptical, and keeping themselves safe. Many are outright paranoid. They're actively avoiding women with more emotional maturity under the delusion that women are supposed to behave like narcissistic teenagers. They're also scaring the crap out of men and women alike, which is only not an issue if you buy into their garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:58 PM
0

That's really just replacing one problem with another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:48 PM
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Hello. I'm apparently the exception who keeps ruining these circlejerks. I mean, there are a lot of brainy women who are overweight and frumpy who would love to meet a handsome, attractive guy who would have sex with them just for their mind. It's amazing how rarely they're single, and nobody's hitting on them. This is just one of many reasons why I think the Redpill is trapped in it's own Matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:47 PM
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Thank you, talking points parrot. With that helpful post, I don't need to be accused of insulting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:33 PM
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Odd. I'd expect redpills to at least try to understand feminism from all the ranting I see about people not doing their homework. And I don't mean "understanding just enough to score karma in a reddit circlejerk."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:40 AM
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Yes. I was abused early in life, and for a long time, attracted abusive women looking for a victim. Ironically, it was feminism that taught me to expect more out of a relationship. At the same time, I met some really amazing women. I'd like to know why the redpill claims women are less mature than men, when men are far more likely to attack strangers and abandon their children? I mean, if we're going to stereotype based on the worst, why not look into the men who will kill you just for rejecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:40 AM
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Because they're the straightest dudes in the universe, terrified of looking gay for even a moment? Besides, if they really believed it, they wouldn't be obsessed with weight lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:30 AM
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I. Women, since we're going to crudely stereotype, tend to evaluate looks harsher than men, but also don't let that stop them, the way men do. Pretty sure we can ignore any exceptions. Hey, why don't we tackle race next? II. Since the most common cultural stereotype is also that women are seeking a long term commitment, while men are seeking short term sex, men get the stereotypes of the meat markets, while women get the stereotypes of "getting to know you." One thing I've learned from Reddit, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:27 AM
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In female erotica/fanficion etc. the male character often portrays borderline sociopathic behavior. You know what we call it when you have a woman displaying sociopathic behavior in an erotic story? A mainstream movie. How can you pretend this is all unique to women in a universe where Basic Instinct exists? Do you know what a Femme Fatale is? Some women send love letters and marriage proposals to serial killers. Let's define what we mean by "some". There are billions of women in the world. In o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:45 AM
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Why is it not okay for us to slut-shame, but perfectly fine for you to virgin-shame? It's not their virginity that's a problem, it's the claims inexperienced men make - when you meet someone who claims to be an expert on women, and then suggests they all look alike upside down, for shock value - seriously? That's the kind of thing a virgin might believe. Then why is almost every post about tearing women down? Don't pretend it isn't. When women talk about men, the way the redpill talk about women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:22 AM
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My thought is that they need to start dating outside of their favorite image search engine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 07:08 AM
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It was. No matter what else was done to me, before dad got treatment, at least my parents recognized mental illness couldn't be healed by faith alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:12 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:06 AM
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If I wanted to go to heaven, I needed to kill myself before puberty. This was Dad's idea. In reality...well, nobody can present evidence heaven even exists. Even if it did, suicide isn't a cheat code that beats the temptation game and opens instant access. All sex is evil. Again, dad. It was easy to believe, when my only exposure was forced by my foster sister. But the fear of sex was far more toxic, to the point where it destroyed my life. And it was guided sex that's helped with that fear in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:10 AM
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Yeah, I was banned for observing their simultaneous obsession with getting no strings sex with women they don't respect/hatred for those same women calling them disposable fuckboys. Apparently, Chad Thundercock is more sensitive than they were letting on.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/15 03:26 AM
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It's about long term relationships, and how looks aren't the end all, be all of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 02:48 AM
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My anecdotal evidence speaks for everyone. Love the way that works. Redpill anecdotes are 10 million times as trustworthy as anyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:37 AM
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The harassment still exists. And some of us first meet people on the internet, and then meet offline. We're not in 2001 anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:34 AM
1

Not as many as you advertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:33 AM
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Source? Also - So, why do women to leave their husbands? The most common reason women initiate divorce is infidelity with over 37 percent of women citing that is the cause of their marital breakdown. Coming in at second and third is emotionally unavailable husbands and immaturity, respectively. Women, overall, cited more reasons for divorce than men and were more likely to divorce because of emotional or physical abuse, incompatibility and immaturity. Seems like a lot of women prefer those "beta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:39 PM
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Except she was expressing contempt for the "masturbate with her body" approach to lovemaking, not shaming betas. Keep trying. The contempt for "beta men" is your brain damaged projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:28 PM
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I'm a guy. My ex is a woman, as are most of the friends who keep falling in love with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:24 PM
1

Sorry, but some men are cat people. We don't all need constant validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:11 AM
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We're not an actual unified philosophy. We're just a bunch of folks who get together to mock the red pill. Instead of chasing impossible ideals, we prefer to live in the real world. The irony of the Red Pill, is they want every interaction pre-programmed. Many are just running simulations, seeking women who don't challenge them. If we were really sticking to Matrix references, they're the ones who took the blue pill. But a single ideal man? How would that work? Do we combine everyone's strengths…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 05:09 AM
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These days, they claim to be more about racial pride, more than active terrorism. If yon't like being compared to other hate groups, stop using their debate techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 04:21 AM
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Shouldn't be surprised, everyone knows you guys are terrible at pattern recognition, or you wouldn't need to have it spelled out how to flirt with someone. And since, either way, you didn't deny that he was reading bullshit into her post, and this is the best distraction you've got...trying to argue technicalities with all the grace of a DOS prompt... Shrugs. Thanks for proving that most redpills aren't capable of a good faith debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:22 AM
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AWALT is based on the same logic you can see in the KKK and TERF philosophy. You find the worst behavior in the group you hate, then claim the minority speaks for the majority. Instantly, you get to both hate, and feel like the hero of your own little adventure, speaking truth to power. It's especially tempting, for some people who've been hurt...you've got to deal with the poison somehow, and it can feel like a catharsis to share your pain with the world. Especially when an echo chamber amplifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:11 AM
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You're missing the overall pattern. You guys claim she can only get off from an alpha. You don't need to spell out what you think a beta is for, in that scenario, because you guys repeat yourselves on the subject constantly. And I already gave the redpill a chance. It can't explain why I was raped by my ex, it can't explain why I can't seem to keep a friendship without someone falling in love with me, and it's "We don't need to believe your anecdotal data" attitude just proves to me it has no an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:59 AM
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You guys cling to your fantasy that every male who isn't an "alpha" is substandard, when that same page includes a woman who is looking for a man with some emotional intelligence and shared ideals. In other words, she's looking for a beta. She regards a beta as superior to your kink. The problem with taking the redpill seriously, is you guys only count what makes you hard. You're Goreans without the imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:45 AM
1

If you don't see an AF in there, you're in deep denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 11:53 PM
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The redpill satirizes itself. I like how they also ignored any answers that didn't fit into their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 10:42 PM
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If a woman did all those things for me, I'd just be doing things for her in return. It's just the way a friendship works. I'm not interested in a co-dependency. Sex doesn't enter into it, until she at least gives me a sign she's at least interested, and we have some kind of chemistry together. If she needs me to read her mind, we're just not compatible. But if there's some genuine chemistry between us, and if there's a mind worth discovering without super-powers...things start happening fast. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 09:18 PM
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No red pill man here takes this conversation seriously, because of the incessant hamstering of Nuh uh, that thing that I like isn't a red pill tactic, only those things I don't like are red pill tactics! from the females here. I watched the redpill subreddit claim that not wanting to be used like a fleshlight was an endorsement of ALPHA FUX/BETA BUX, LULZ. If you can't figure out why that's earned my pity, and most people laughing at your cult, you're not in a position to lecture anyone about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:38 PM
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The only one who thinks I'm trying to censor you, are the voices you talk to, that nobody else can hear. Are you high? And you're not arguing against AWALT, but you're offended that I thought you might believe you think AWALT? Is it a guilty conscience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:35 PM
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Why don't you tell me what a BP type is? Because I really doubt you have the slightest idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:29 PM
3

Absolutely. Ever hear of confirmation bias? The redpill tends to go out of it's way to select for women who want what it offers. Now, carefully explain why I should ignore the women who were attracted to me, in exchange for the crippling paranoia and bitterness that the red pill wants to offer me? Or why I should ignore my friends and family? Also, let's face it - the redpill theory is that monogamy is a myth, and that a man needs the validation of many women's bodies before his life has any val…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:25 PM
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No, I'm calling you ignorant, because you didn't even bother to do your homework before we attempted to find an answer to the question you asked. I'm calling you ignorant, because you believe an answer thrown together on the spot, without information, has more value than one arrived at by an exchange of ideas. It's an immaturity that's all too typical, and why you're no longer worth taking seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:40 PM
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So, basically you either don't take this conversation very seriously, or you need to take us to your home planet. But. I should thank you guys. I've met a lot of good women when we bonded over shooting down the redpill paint by numbers approach to harassment together.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:36 PM
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A restriction on future actions of a human being can also be said to inflict suffering upon them. Only if they can experience suffering. You can't just write rainchecks for it, and end the debate. Otherwise, why not think about the human rights of the men and women who won't be conceived because a mother was forced to give birth on someone else's schedule? Do you know how many people are alive today, thanks to abortion? Why don't their lives matter? I realize I'm essentially flipping off Pro-Lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:29 PM
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That link is about why the answer isn't simple, not a deflection, or a denial that an answer exists. But thanks for making a scene, and advocating ignorance. It's about what I've come to expect from Reddit debates. There are more colors in the world than black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:01 PM
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are males suffering ill effects You're altering the definition of human suffering. A fetus has no awareness that allows it to be capable of processing pain in a way that creates true suffering. This is about everyone except the fetus, which has no opinion on the matter at all. And the very real emotional pain caused to some fathers is not equal to the amount of equally real physical pain inflicted on mothers. It exists in almost all pregnancies regardless of whether any emotional pain is involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:01 PM
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Your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:52 PM
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See my reply to the last time I was called on that. Abortion is a gender issue, because it only affects the suffering of one gender. And that's what pro-life arguments miss. They don't even pretend to give a shit about human suffering. Minimizing human suffering is one of the most basic, core components of a sound system of ethics. If your system of beliefs increases someone's suffering, and depends on psychological abuse to spread, and appeals to magic and ignorance... And sparing as little gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:27 PM
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You're using an anecdotal case to back up someone using crude stereotypes, in a subreddit where people who believe AWALT dominate. If you weren't arguing AWALT, thank God, there's hope for you. But if you take my suspicion that personally, probably not too much...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 06:13 AM
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ing to your fantasy. Your friends doesn't disprove anything I said. Attractive people are treated much better by society than ugly people. And you do i Just be proud that you're shallow. Own it. No need to pretend we're all like you. The most beautiful woman who ever confessed feelings for me, by traditional measure, I rejected, because she was a pro-life conservative, and a submissive. It simply wouldn't have worked. The least attractive, at least by the same measure as the first, I gave her a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 06:03 AM
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Very well. Only one gender has the potential to suffer, because of the lack of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:48 AM
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If you were reduced to the cognitive awareness of a fetus tomorrow, would you consider that a life worth fighting for? What if you needed an organ transplant? Do you deserve priority over those who are actually suffering, without the organ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:47 AM
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Clearly, terminating the life of a new born infant immediately after it's born is morally wrong in most cases. How about a few seconds before delivery? A week before, when it has an almost fully developed infant brain and responds to stimulus, etc.? How many people would actually support any of those? More information.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:37 AM
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Because the kid doesn't count at all? Or is a child the same to you as a fetus? Because I can explain the difference, if you're confused. With that said, locking men up for not being able to afford child support? Yes, that's punishing men for sex. Why wouldn't it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:32 AM
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They claim it's murder, but they don't do much to help the kid once they're born. Face it, it's about punishing women for sex, for the most part. Especially given how many lies there are in anti-abortion propaganda, and the fact their best argument is trying to emotionally traumatize people with disturbing visuals. And how many pro-lifers are willing to get an abortion themselves, so long as nobody knows? Abortion is a gender issue, because it really only affects the health of one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:51 AM
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No. Everyone does it. Including you. Hahahahaha, sorry, but you're such an innocent. You cling to your cynicism like a Fundie to his Bible. It's all about your faith. Thing of it is, my friends range from models to some of the ugliest people around, by conventional measure. I really don't give a shit about looks, but I've gone mad for a good sense of humor. Also, keep your racism to yourself. Will agree on the bad breath, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:35 AM
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Many women are opposed to And there are women who really question that whole vaccination thing. Pregnancy is a women's health issue. The right to control what her body is used for, instead of waiting to be harvested is a women's health issue. The amount of pain involved, the emotional suffering, is all a women's health issue. And the fact that many people, both men and women, think that a fetus, which cannot suffer, has more rights than she does, is proof that women aren't the highest up on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:30 AM
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Yes, there are people who will, sure. But you guys are allergic to any words that divide up groups of people into more than one personality type. And you immediately assume the worst, based on all your favorite lazy stereotypes. Also, there are ugly men who have enough charisma to get away with things bland good looking only wishes it could.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:15 AM
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Society is gynocentric. Women's interests are held above men's (rather than an equal view/no inherent preference). Like when we closed down all those abortion clinics? Is that why jobs where women excel vs men, such as working with children, and emotional/mental health support are underfunded, while we always have millions to throw at new stadiums, whether or not they make their money back? Why does the manosphere have such a difficult time admitting that the criminal justice system abuses men m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:11 AM
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Hey, neat, you've turned a hard fact of life into a thought terminating cliche'. Dunning/Kruger would be proud to know their names are attached to so much of redpill lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 01:51 AM
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Hmm. Thing of it is, my social skills were horrible - I stared holes into people to hide that I was terrified of them, and I'm not one of the beautiful people - at my best, I still had a skull too big for most hats, and short limbs, that made me look like an ill advised chibi Jesus doll. But some women still approached me, because corpse paint and business suits stand out in a crowd, and apparently, there are all kinds of different definitions of attractive. Even if you're trying to be creepy. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:28 AM
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Just curious - why is your SMV only based on "at a glance" measures? It's accurate if we're all suffering traumatic brain injuries, but long term sex friends/relationships generally place less value on looks. She's also completely right that women, in general, tend to be more forgiving of faces they see as less attractive, if the chemistry's still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:11 AM
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So? That makes her a horrible person. When you try to pull an AWALT out of it, it just makes you the textbook definition of a bigot. Shrugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 11:57 PM
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And this is why we call you guys a cult. Your science is based on making up a theory, then either cherry picking the anecdotal data, or manipulating it, until it suits your conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 11:54 PM
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If you think the news shows you the objective state of reality, you really don't understand how they make their money. Keep snorkling through the clickbait. Let the internet take you on a tour of all the dark side emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 07:47 PM
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And now you're arguing with the voices in your head again. Bluepill really only exists to mock the red. How that relates to your post, only you can know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 02:25 PM
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While some blues feel men are shitty and sometimes have a fantasy of a utopia of a female led world with women all over the world joining hands.... All our best satirists say so, so it must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 08:41 AM
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Depends. Some are polyamorous, and they'd probably enjoy it, if the guy was entertaining enough, and didn't embarrass himself. Others are in horrible relationships with abusive partners... But there are also women who'd hate it, still. Monogamy is a real thing that exists, even for those whom are serial monogamists. And even if you wear someone down, it could wreck them emotionally. Others just don't want to date men. Edit: I'm curious why this answer has offended some people? Lesbians do exist.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:02 PM
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Hahahaha, really? Almost every woman I've ever talked to, would like a lot less being hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 10:54 PM
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The statistic is that one woman in five will experience some form of sexual assault. That's different than just rape. Now, if we can agree on that much, we can start breaking it down into specifics? Do you see all drunk sex the same as drunken sexual assault? Do you believe drunken sexual assault is an issue, or should getting drunk be a blank check to attack anyone? I realize these may sound like strawmen, but I've met people who see them as their serious view - I'm just trying to find out wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 09:54 PM
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You guys reduced all of feminism to worst case drinking scenarios, in selected colleges. There are thousands of post secondary schools, in America alone. There are also feminists who enjoy both recreational alcohol, and recreational sex. You guys ignore any who don't match your ad hominem attacks, and then cry when it's flipped back on you. So much for men being more logical and adult. But we knew that was a joke to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 09:42 PM
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Can you show me where most people think that two people, equally drunk, counts as the man raping the woman? Because it seems to be a position more held by gender traditionalists, feminist or otherwise. Claiming it's a majority feminist opinion just exposes how emotional you guys get when someone mentions your trigger words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:55 PM
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Meanwhile, I don't need to throw insults, when I can just observe your actual flaws. I never denied there are horrible feminists, so calling "No True Scotsman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:52 PM
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Robin Morgan's a 2nd wave TERF. These quotes, out of context, also ignore that marriage used to be radically different than it is now. Many of those women grew up in a time when marital rape was legal, and abortion wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:45 PM
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Got it. So Bernie Sanders is a Nazi, because socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:40 PM
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Odd. I swear I included signs like "How is their balance?" and "Are they able to recognize what's happening?" How terrible are you at observing people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:35 PM
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Got it. Feminists are responsible for everything any of the millions of people identifying as feminists do, but anti-feminists aren't responsible for other anti-feminists, because you're amazing hypocrites relying on emotional arguments. Thanks for clearing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:27 PM
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It's okay. Anti-feminists still have the higher kill count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:23 PM
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Because you click on karma-bait, argue with tumblr, and pretend I say whatever you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 08:04 PM
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You linked me to a study of college kids. That's longevity? No. Also, we'd be foolish to ignore that the religions most associated with hating shallow hook-ups (for women) and divorce for any reason, really push both male dominance and family/community ties. How are these factors compensated for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 07:12 PM
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I based it in part on what actually happened when I had Jim's problem. I just skipped the part where Sally dared me to buy the condoms, if I was so sure I was unfuckable. shrugs Although, she was into the sex for the sex itself, and not the "It buys me things!" And she wasn't nearly as unchoosy about who she'd sleep with as your caricature. In fact, the shitty way she was treated by men who only wanted her for sex nearly convinced her she was asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:56 PM
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Actually, it was more "Jim is apparently not giving these two women the time of day. What a dick." But I was wrong about him. Because one day when he was listening to Sally talk about her problems, she started messing with him, a little - he was the only guy she knew who didn't just want to sleep with her. And yeah, she knew she used to keep men like that around, because it was safe, but it became suffocating, because she was branded a slut, and soon it's all anyone wanted from her. He blushed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:41 PM
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No, my argument was that your hypothetical is dishonest. There's a difference. Jim, if he exists, is rare. Most people don't struggle with social skills so bad that they need help just to play through the tutorial stage. That's why most advice you get is vague - it's like a gamer telling you to throw a dragon uppercut, when you haven't even figured out how to turn on the computer yet, or know what to click on. But fortunately, there are advice forums out there, as well as libraries (and libraria…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:21 PM
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Okay, let's find a few facts we agree with - There are more dominant men, than dominant women. Unhappy relationships between submissive men and dominant women exist. So do happy ones. Now I need to start asking questions - Women are happiest when they are with a partner they can look up to, even dominant women. So, only in traditionally masculine ways? She can't look up to him for being a better writer or a better cook? Also, what about happiness between equals who challenge each other, and brin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:03 PM
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Now, this is curious. Because what satisfies me emotionally is people being happy together, without hurting anyone. That means, I'm perfectly okay with a submissive woman hooking up with a dominant man, if they both go wild for the idea. And I'm quick to call out a dominant woman, if she abuses a submissive man's trust. I even wish boring vanilla folk the best. So, where do we disconnect, other than the red pill can't admit there are dominant women and submissive men happily swapping body fluids…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:38 PM
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Considering that I've seen the redpill sabotage relationships, I certainly agree with the unnecessarily unhappy. part. Now, explain why you think we're opposed to more happy people in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:28 PM
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In your scenario, we see an employee exploited despite his best efforts to become better at his job. He can't catch a break. Nobody will even tell him what he's doing wrong. Wow, is that a lot of bullshit, metaphorically speaking. Because the information about ways to improve your appearance/emotional intelligence/charisma is all public domain, and you don't even need to join a dangerous sex cult to get access to it. Since it all worked for me, poor, mentally ill, and far from the masculine idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:19 PM
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No, you're right. If we stay in the metaphor, he's totally getting exploited by those dudes, and I do feel sorry for him - maybe if they'd put out a little, instead of being so hetero? They clearly led him on, by making him a salaried employee. Hell, just by making eye contact. And the worst part is, every man in the world is just as bad! Now they owe him at least some sincere "bros before hoes" anal. I think that's the moral you were going for. Edit: Seriously, we could make the redpill circlej…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:52 PM
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How drunk? Christ, if the internet talked about sex the way it talks about intoxication...wait, it totally does. Nevermind. No wonder why there's so many clueless people. So, back to the issue at hand, are we talking "Wheee, I have a buzz and I'm totally giving myself social permission to free myself!" or "Whoah, I didn't know that my balance was going to go so fast. Can someone slow this ride down?" or "Hahahaha, where am I? Who are you? Seriously. I really don't know. Hahaha. I'm not drunk. Wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:47 PM
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You know, it's curious what all 3 of the hypothetical scenarios leave out. For example, slut shaming doesn't exist in your magic kingdom. Neither does sex for it's own sake. Not unless a man seeks it. Then it's sacred. Because Jim wants to drive the best, most expensive cars around, before he's even learned how to drive. Sally could teach him. So could Betty. But Jim won't seek anyone he sees as beneath himself, and he will continue to be miserable, because he deserves all his dreams to come tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:37 PM
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I doubt I'd change many minds. I'm content to leave this here. I understand that the pick up scene is shallow, but the idea that it's either that, a 50's marriage, or this, is why science doesn't take the redpill very seriously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 02:25 PM
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It's ironic hearing this from a redpill, since you guys are notorious for reflexively dismissing any information that doesn't support your "ALPHA FUX, BETA BUX, AWALT, LOL!" mantra. I guess it's different when your faith gets involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 09:47 AM
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How can we have a good faith debate, when you refused to address any of my points? I might as well argue with myself.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 01:20 AM
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You didn't address my point that you exaggerate how often cis is used as an authentic, hate filled slur, for the karma bait. You also failed to observe that the times it's used in over the top, Spaceman Spiff worthy phrases like "Die, Cis Scum", it generally refers to the deliberate erasure of GSM from the mainstream, and the removal of their rights. What you really object to, is just a taste of your identity being marginalized.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 02:51 AM
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Except there are good reasons to use it, outside of talking about trans people exclusively. When we're talking about popular culture, "cis" is a good descriptor. It often insists on a simple and exaggerated gender binary, which is just as much fantasy as Superheroes. Yes, sometimes tumblr abuses the word, but not nearly as often as claimed. It's just a few people, and their tens of thousands of anti-fans.
/r/MensRights21/07/15 12:10 AM
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Guess we can't have straight people anymore, since that's an oppressive word too. That cis-male is also non-handicapped, non-left-handed, non-elderly, non-baby, non-asleep, non-freestyle-rapping, non-high, non-bleeding-profusely, non-being-insulted-by-a-dwarf, non-has-difficulty-finding-office-work-because-of-a-regretted-facial-tattoo. So, a healthy right handed child to middle aged man, and he's awake? But you have no objection to any of those labels.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 03:22 PM
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So why pretend to be something you're not? So you won't get hurt? There are never any guarantees... You're listening to the wisdom of scared children pretending to hack the human mind by studying a few pick up scenes, while completely missing out on the experiences many happy people share together. I mean, you do know the red pill is just a roleplaying fantasy, don't you? Try looking at what it's been failing to observe.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 03:03 PM
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You just make these things up So, now that you know I'm not, has anything changed? I left FeMRAdebates over this issue, in part because it led to scenes like this one.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 02:23 PM
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So either you clicked on zero of the links provided in the text, or you misread. The results indicated that 15.4 percent of college women reported experiencing legal rape Which was it? Edit: And the votes objectively prove that men's rights really doesn't give a shit about the facts, whenever a feminist is involved. Thanks for the disappointment, folks.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 01:39 PM
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And some of us are just more feminine, or androgynous, naturally...or just not overcompensating for something... and actually share some of the same problems and concerns as many women. Since men's rights really thinks it would be awesome to be sexually harassed, and really seems iffy on whether or not it's okay to simply fuck people who are paralyzed by fear/emotional shock, because they can't say "No." And you just offered horrible advice for how to approach a guy like me after I was raped by …
/r/MensRights13/07/15 08:28 AM
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Yeah, except we're not all alike, actually. And this kind of post is why you guys keep seeing men join up with your hated enemies in feminism, no matter how many times you reassure yourselves it's just about getting laid. Also, if masculine dudes want more masculine dudes offering safe spaces for masculinity, how about actually starting them, in the real world, and not just the AAA gaming industry's single player options?
/r/MensRights13/07/15 02:37 AM
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Considering that there are serious factual inaccuracies with the arguments OP's friend made, I wonder how many of the posters here would challenge their own beliefs? Mary P. Koss is one of my least favorite people due to her refusal to count forced envelopment as a rape for CDC statistics, but the claim that she said one in 4 women was raped is a myth, and other researchers have replicated her findings, with better questions designed to eliminate any potential misunderstandings about consent. Th…
/r/MensRights13/07/15 12:06 AM
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Some of us genuinely enjoyed learning.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:01 PM
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where is the human solidarity against unjust imprisonment? Hey, if you want to argue there are asshole women who don't give a shit, same as asshole men, we're not even arguing. But try, sometimes, to give credit to the women who are actually working on helping men in trouble directly. And are you suggesting we force the economy to pay every job the same wage Nah, just that we stop showering money on whatever random things dudes like, while continually neglecting important things that more women …
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:19 PM
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slavery Mostly men running it. Damn feminists and using their pussypass to get out of running the for profit prison industry. No, mostly we complain about feminists whining about false wage gaps Because every woman who plays quarterback in the NFL would get paid just as much. And we can't help it if girls want to do useless jobs like teacher, therapist or social worker. Also, it's reasonable to have less female CEOs because the shareholders will make sure she costs the company, regardless of her…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:34 PM
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Or you could try an actual reliable source. Wonder why nobody else mentioned well behaved boys getting a grade boost?
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:20 PM
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Except the screenshot was taken after the drama stirred up. It was successful before then. And you have regulars like TyphoonBlue who were upvoted for defending it, who suddenly experienced a dramatic crash after everyone outside of the men's rights subreddit discovered the post. You can believe whatever you want to believe, of course. It's much easier to tell yourself that everyone just hates men for no good reason. But back to our original topic, which was you guys making up bullshit reasons t…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:08 PM
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This subreddit, until the thread was brigaded by nearly every meta sub in existence. The Admins should have wiped out everyone for it, but apparently, it's okay when the issue is about whether or not to save children. Here, check out SRD confessing to their part.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 05:35 PM
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I'm just against spreading lies that result in kids drowning. I wasn't aware it was a controversial opinion, until I started exploring some of the threads around these parts.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 05:02 PM
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Because wanting to do the right thing is always the wrong thing in /r/mensrights. At least it's easy to see why you guys keep complaining about creepshaming.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 04:51 PM
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Meanwhile, on planet Earth, life guards are paid to give kids mouth to mouth. And it's not hard to find ordinary heroes who aren't as chickenshit as you lot. What you guys really do, is scare the shit out of emotionally vulnerable men, in exchange for all that hot sticky internet karma.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 02:10 PM
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Considering /r/mensrights regularly tries to convince me that "toxic masculinity" means "all men are toxic" and that it would be better to let children drown than risk being thought a pedophile, I'm going to simply thank you for the entertainment.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 01:52 PM
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Good luck with that. Some of us have tried before. They're not actually interested in improving men's rights as much as they are their anti-feminist activism. For example: They'll claim that poster (which they only have one photograph of, and haven't yet proven is part of an actual campaign.) represents us better than say, Project Unbreakable's feminist creator including men's stories of rape, because they hate the word feminist more than finding allies. Edit: Seriously, they'll fuck us all over…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 01:08 PM
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Those who abused you, even if they were feminist, were shitlords. (Shitladies?) I'm sorry it happened. Were you able to find any help? How are you doing now?
/r/MensRights17/06/15 12:28 PM
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You surgically remove context. "Teach men not to rape." was a response to safety tips for women, which included "teach them not to dress up like sluts." The irony being that women confident enough to show what they've got are actually safer from sexual predators, and "sluts deserve it" is all too common a way to attack victims, regardless of anything they actually did. Sure, "teach women not to rape" would be a great addition, as would accurate statistics getting out in the wild, but pretending …
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:06 PM
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And then what? And if she declares he's dead, doesn't know him, out of the country, etc? Shove the baby back in her? Put everything in legal limbo till she finds the guy? Unfortunately, absent a legal challenge by the father, that's the advantage she gets for actually carrying the baby. You simply want equal privileges for unequal responsibility. Men abandon their kids: send 'em to jail. The primary concern is that the child is cared for. When a mother abandons the child, she's usually dropping …
/r/MensRights16/06/15 02:32 PM
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troll autopilot engaged. Wow, all the classics. Thanks for the nostalgia.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 04:04 AM
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I believe the father should be contacted. But the reason we allow for anonymous baby drop-offs, is so the baby isn't dead. Which do you prefer? We don't live in a perfect world.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 03:53 AM
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So you favor forcing men to pay for children produced by their rape? Only according to the voices in your head. at's quite helpful to all those You should get that looked that. Question: if it's all about who had the uterus why can women abandon their obligations even after birth? Not if the father wants custody.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 02:59 AM
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It's not so hard to believe when the men on top reward each other for aggression/risk/greed, while spamming billions of dollars into the fine art of tearing apart anyone who's vulnerable. Any women who advance in that system are shaped by it. Even feminists. A feminist politician is still a politician who must raise money, make connections, and win votes to survive. A feminist CEO is still a CEO who must appease her shareholders. And both must play politics. They have as much in common with the …
/r/MensRights15/06/15 11:38 PM
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I legitimately don't care. You guys had your chance to convince me you had our best interests at heart, and you didn't even try. You're an anti-feminist rebranding, nothing more. It's your only priority, and any men's issue unrelated to it, dies a quiet death here. kyriarchy It covers class, race, gender conformity/identity, disability, mental health, sexual orientation, etc. Those who ignore those aspects of a male identity can't be taken seriously, even if they're teenagers on tumblr...you kno…
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:45 PM
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Supporting male rape survivors means giving all dads, everywhere, the power to simply fuck over their kids? Here's a better idea - create a way for men to carry the fetus to term. Everyone benefits, then. And men can have a real abortion, instead of the imaginary kind.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:32 PM
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Feminists are the ones who never called me a liar for speaking up about it, which is more than I can say for the some of the MRAs here. And please, learn what a kyriarchy is, and how to use the term responsibly.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:14 PM
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Curious, I remember this feminist taking a stand against rapists getting custody. But there's your selective memory again... Anti-feminism is way more important than actual change.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 09:56 PM
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Everything. Got a moment? Okay, so let's begin with the basics. Consequences. They don't exist in porn, which is why it's fantasy and rape isn't. In real life, that sex can lead to a new life being created - what happens then? And then there's the issue of self-defense. Who will the police believe, if she has any bruises? Even if you do? Who will anyone who doesn't know you, believe? It's not just about the sex. It's about your future, in the next few days, the next few years...maybe even the re…
/r/MensRights15/06/15 06:57 PM
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Of course there are women on top fucking men over. And men's rights is right to call them out on it. But it's all I see this sub focusing on, while also claiming that calling out the toxic forms of masculinity is the same as demonizing all masculinity. It's deliberately ignoring a lot of victims, who really need someone to fight for them.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 03:40 PM
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You mean my claim that the men on top fuck over other men every single day? Kind of reinforces it.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 05:38 AM
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Thank you, for doing this.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 01:25 PM
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Good luck with that. Most enjoy being bitter and angry more than they like actually helping, and they tend to subject potential allies on individual issues to a purity test few will achieve. Just compare their achievements in combating male disposability with any workplace safety inspection team. Ask them why they ignore the things men do to other men? Make them explain how they help men who have been raped/sexually harassed by women, by their constant flirtation with the redpill, which is fille…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 08:07 PM
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Especially if you ignore violence in the reconstruction era, segregation, and the way in which American housing laws discriminated against black families. And of course, there's always the way white folks got sweetheart deals in the criminal justice system, when compared to their black counterparts who committed the exact same crime... enough research Obviously, you need to do a little more.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 06:22 PM
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Patriarchy, if it were a real thing, would collapse overnight, because it would simply require too much energy to maintain. Not much for studying history, are you? RP highlights the differences between what women think it is socially proper to say they want (ie, the social constructs) and what biology makes them actually want (ie, evolution). So true - after all, red pill scientists have hit on many young women in bars and nightclubs (and the street), in order to gain some percentage of short te…
/r/MensRights25/12/14 04:30 PM
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You seem confused. They wanted to talk about gender issues. We were able to raise awareness about technical privilege, implicit bias, and imposter syndrome. The questions and responses in the AMA also gave both male and female Redditors a platform to share their own experiences in and suggestions for environments unfriendly to women. Many women supported our answers by telling stories of their own experiences. Numerous men asked how they could help be allies–and many people jumped in to offer he…
/r/MensRights22/12/14 10:45 AM
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You dismiss any answer you don't like, especially if it involves state of mind, and pretend it's all spin, because medical/legal malpractice means nothing where your ethics are concerned. If not enough women are taking stupid risks, you demand we include those under duress or with known medical conditions to even up the odds, and then, even when I meet your demands to name something stupid some women are doing, throw a tantrum because, for stupid reasons, a Western junk food diet, and lack of ex…
/r/MensRights18/12/14 04:40 AM
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I've been asking you to stop putting words in my mouth and engage me in conversation for a year now. I used to think it was because you were a master manipulator, but now I suspect you're just oblivious.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 04:51 PM
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pretending to be too fucking stupid to know the difference between one sex being at higher risk for a trait than another, and a trait that's purely based on sex. Can't give a shit. pretending to be too stupid to know mental illness is a medical disease Can't give a shit about that either. As long as you're stuck in troll mode, I'll leave you to play Glenn Beck with yourself.
/r/MensRights17/12/14 06:01 AM
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How do you cure a biological sex? Are you saying men's personalities are decided by their penis, or just that they all have the same personality as the Darwin Award winners? Please choose the comic book misandry you're pulling out of your ass, and we can work from there. Eating disorders are diseases. Yes, they are. But you've confused bad habits and symptoms of something more serious, possibly on purpose. I can't believe you're this stupid accidentally.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 07:11 PM
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One sex is less risk prone? Is this genetic? Why not look into a cure, instead of throwing a tantrum whenever it's pointed out? No those are diseases. Like that. So, if something is a disease, everything similar is a disease too? Good to know. Eating at McDonald's, because it's right by work will be added to the DSM, as will being stubborn. You hold men and women to different standards. Nope. I never defended the women in the Darwin awards. The only one with different standards is you. Gotta mak…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 06:55 PM
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That's a question with odd assumptions. If one sex is less risk averse, overall, and isn't under any pressure to prove they have a set of ovaries by killing random strangers to satisfy honor, they're naturally going to die less, for idiot reasons. Poor diet/exercise - without a good reason. It adds up, later in life. Deliberately ignoring health warnings. But you're not going to count it, when you can claim to get confused about the difference between accepting different body shapes and worrying…
/r/MensRights16/12/14 06:43 PM
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No, I'm just rejecting the way you've framed the debate completely, because it's circlejerk nonsense you pulled out of your ass. Again.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 04:19 PM
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If you wanted to talk about diseases where men are the primary victims, you should actually give it a try, instead of making lame excuses whenever men do something wrong.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 05:31 AM
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Hey, they should start including women who repeatedly go back to abusive husbands and get murdered as a result in this to bump up female participation (men too but that's less common). Because Stockholme's and the psychology of victims of long term abus is comedy gold? Well, this subreddit does get all the mileage out of it, that it can... Just curious - what do lions offer their victims? Can the lion be there for someone in need, when nobody else was? Can the lion provide a roof over their head…
/r/MensRights15/12/14 10:11 AM
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True, of course. My turn. True/false: Men suffer from eating disorders too. True/false: The "just get over it" theory of curing body dysmorphic disorders is recognized by the medical community as the best possible approach. True/false: Darwin award winners have many reasons for what they do, despite this subreddit not very randomly focusing on failed seduction.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 07:49 PM
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Curious - I don't recall defending any of the women in the Darwin awards. But you're trying to expand their definition to include victims of diseases that hurt men and women both, just so you can attack more women...
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:58 PM
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You literally stated that you were using this tactic to get laid. I said that a healthy way to find sex with a partner who wants to have sex too, is to talk to them like an adult and let anything that develops, do so naturally. Of course, since you think of women as either helpless children, who have no desire of their own, or sex criminals, and you can't imagine actually talking to any like an adult without being paid for it... I can understand your confusion. And are you denying that any women…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:47 PM
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trigger warning: I can't tell the difference between a disease and building a bomb. Also - I wasn't aware body dysmorphic disorders were due to a conscious decision to impress men, so much as what happens when the brain's body mapping is out of whack. Teach me more about your mad science, doctor? If you want to pretend there's never a societal influence, so you can absolve everyone except her from blame while dancing on her grave, by all means... It's what I've come to expect from you. Simple an…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:31 PM
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When a man jumps off a bridge to impress a woman he's doing that for his own self esteem and confidence. That's how you're impressing women now? Between that and the sexual harassment, it's no wonder so many MRM are sensitive about the V-card issue. Really, you'd be more successful if you'd just talk to women like they're equals, and try not to force the chemistry...but, oh, wait - I forgot AMRsucks only does that when they're trying to get into someone's pants. The fan fiction about my love lif…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:19 PM
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Sometimes, calculated risks are needed to achieve a greater goal. Othertimes, people decide that making an internal combustion engine would be easier if it contained less safety measures than a hand grenade without the pin inside.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 12:46 PM
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So, they hired Dr. Giggles to do it? The detainee was “diagnosed with chronic hemorrhoids, an anal fissure, and symptomatic rectal prolapse”.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 04:36 AM
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I saw a daughter just as bad as the dad, and a mom who retreats into fantasy rather than helping the two hotheads communicate. If you think anyone in that trailer is perfect, you've really got low standards.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 04:24 AM
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If it does cause that effect in some people that's no excuse to ban games. We agree. These people should stay away from such games and films. That reminds me - You're aware there's currently no warning for sexual violence? We have warnings for mild language and comic mischief, but not rape. If people are likely to experience PTSD from trolls and heavy criticism on the internet they should probably not start internet debates There's a difference between heavy criticism, and "This isn't just a thr…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 03:46 AM
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Also, you go from targeted psychological abuse to an accidental bump...I'm asking honestly - are they nearly the same thing, in your mind? One has a very high probability of causing PTSD in vulnerable populations. We're not suprised when it damages sensitive kids - when do you become old enough to magic off the harm? Accidental pushing, by contrast, doesn't have many support groups.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 02:20 AM
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Not sure how you get "It's sexist against men", because it portrays violent men, in order to entertain a mostly male audience. Is that your roundabout way of admitting toxic forms of masculinity exist, without giving feminists the slightest credit and jeopardizing your standing here?
/r/MensRights14/12/14 02:09 AM
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The links you provide have convinced me these people are idiots. And that may be giving them too much credit. You get points there. My criticisms of GTA still stand, and they're criticisms shared by other gamers. It really is sexist against women, even if the storyline also focuses on the violent games men play with each other's lives. She claimed she got PTSD from the shit the internet threw at her. You do realize there are people who killed themselves, because of what the internet threw at the…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 01:34 AM
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Totally like NASA.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 01:23 AM
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I love how in this subreddit's dimension, men never take these risks to impress other men. The effort put into the denial, just so you have an excuse to resent women more, must be exhausting. Also, it's pretty fucking stupid.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 01:10 AM
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You mean when you guys got confused, and scared yourselves into believing KillAllMen was literal? I'll admit, it was the perfect example of the kind of oppression the MRM usually focuses on - the imaginary kind. And it was hilarious. Thanks for the reminder.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 12:49 AM
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Actually, they complained that you can fuck prostitutes and then murder them to get the money back, and that the series is known for creating women best described as either backstabbing nymphomaniacs or victims... Have you actually played the games? ...and it's sold at family stores. As for the PTSD, I'm really sorry it's getting in the way of people who want rape and murder threats to be taken as a friendly internet hello. But we're not going to pretend bullying can't cause psychological damage…
/r/MensRights14/12/14 12:36 AM
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The first article is a photoshop, the father's day thing was a 4chan mass sockpuppet hoax, and lil purrfect femme is a poe. Three strikes is enough for me.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 12:17 AM
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Depends in which country you've been raped in. The FBI definition only requires that the victim didn't consent to a penetration, without saying who is penetrated.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 12:03 AM
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Lil purrfect femme is a satire tumblr.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 11:52 PM
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Feminists against Father's Day was a 4chan hoax, featuring an army of sock puppet accounts.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 11:23 PM
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Nah, feminists just don't like the part where the entire range of women for them to play outside of online, is a player reskin that requires a cheat code... Do you deny it? ...also the main women in the series range from the violent backstabbing nymphomaniac girlfriend in part 3 (who is also a rapist in San Andreas) to the pathetic ungrateful, nagging, hypocritical, nymphomaniac wife in part 5. Oh, and the ungrateful dumb blonde daddy's girl, headed in mommy's footsteps. (Source: GTA wiki) Do yo…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 01:08 PM
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Why not 100% women, and you can kill them by attacking their giant breasts? Because that actually happened, once, on the PS2 of all places, and there was a decided lack of feminist outrage. Also, have you just never played the Fallout series?
/r/MensRights12/12/14 11:58 AM
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Brazil isn't a developing nation. Stranger rape can easily take the form of a home invasion, or tricking the victim into inviting them inside their home, knowing the invitation itself will work in the rapist's favor. None of this has anything to do with clothing, but it does have lots to do with accusing the victim of sharing some responsibility. The only time "It's what you wear" can work, in theory, is if a rapist would normally never think of raping you, but your revealing clothing just nuked…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 08:56 AM
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A minority think that the woman bears some responsibility for placing herself in a dangerous situation. A dangerous situation, based on their own beliefs - again, where is the evidence that a woman with the confidence to wear eye catching clothing in public is engaging in high risk behavior? They seem unaware that most sexual assault occurs at home. Brazil is far from the context we're talking about. It's not exactly a primitive cave tribe. Are we limiting the debate to the US, UK, and Australia…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 07:27 AM
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Curious, I expected you to be upvoted, despite the fact that there's nothing like what you described in the article, or when I hit the Mad World link. And as this is the internet, I even expected the worst representatives of feminism to put their two cents in. Maybe I was supposed to read every reader response, and then consult you and your blackboard for conspiracy theories?
/r/MensRights12/12/14 06:09 AM
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My point is that it is not victim-blaming to suggest that clothing choices might be a factor in the overall risk of being raped. At worst it is simply bad advice, not rape culture. Not rape culture? In some countries, they've even won the debate. Meanwhile, evidence to the contrary disappeared down the internet's memory hole. obviously you're prepared to take on a little risk to your personal safety Simply repeating yourself won't make it any more true.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 05:59 AM
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I'm going to ask you to prove that having the confidence to wear sexy clothing, and attract a lot of eyeballs, is more dangerous than being too afraid of pushing social norms and allowing others to dictate your boundaries? Because it's very clear you're new to all of this, with a wealth of wisdom about rapist psychology pulled directly out of your ass.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 05:07 AM
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Right. Anyone, man or woman, who is also cheating on their partner MUST be a feminist.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 11:10 PM
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This should provide some context. Democrats and Republicans both run for office based on saving taxpayers money, and getting tough on crime. But in a soundbite culture, we've taken that to obscene levels.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 10:56 PM
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Not actually appearing anywhere in the article: the word "feminists."
/r/MensRights10/12/14 08:25 PM
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Can you offer your honest appraisal of this? Several feminists came here thinking this was a men's rights issue, and that we might find common ground, but were rebuffed.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 06:19 PM
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Nope, just willing to give the traditionalists on the right a free pass so you can be a pure anti-feminist circlejerk. It's why threads about conservative men abusing other men go nowhere here, and potential feminist allies can't get a word in edgewise past the brain dead chant of NAFALT!
/r/MensRights09/12/14 11:56 PM
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Can't argue that. There's still a long way to go. And my apologies, if you read my original response to you. I misread a comment here - rereading the article clarified that she was old enough to make her own decisions, and should be held to the same standards as anyone else "just following orders." But one problem I keep noticing with these articles - where is the boy's voice in all of this? What would have happened to him if he had refused? The threat of violence takes this past statutory, does…
/r/MensRights06/12/14 03:15 PM
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So, I've looked over how the LA times website covers statutory rape. The results are mixed. Warning, there's a paywall over the second one of these, but you can read the title and photo caption. Anyways - Sometimes, it's "alleged sexual relationship". Sometimes, they're charged with sexual misconduct, child molestation, and child annoyance. At least at the LA Times, it appears this can work independent of gender. But here's an out of nowhere rant I found in another paper, where the writer calls …
/r/MensRights06/12/14 02:11 PM
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Here's a more recent article, which, although about a tv show, shows how far some people will go to make some pretty fucked up shit okay in their minds, if a teenage boy is involved.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 01:31 PM
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Read it again, with an open mind. At every turn, it's reporting her story, in her own words, and then revealing the facts that show who she really is. It's possible for her both to be abused, and then abuse others, going above and beyond. As for a single publication reporting things with sanity, that's not exactly something you need to wait for. Check out the date on this one.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 01:20 PM
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Shishy also admitted she was present when Akhandananda had sex with two underaged girls at the yoga centre, but said she didn’t fully appreciate his actions were wrong at the time. So, basically, you and a hundred other posters didn't actually read the article? It uses the same terms for both, and calls her out for hiding what she did, despite her story. It also adds: She broke down as she said she accepted she had caused significant trauma to children who worshipped her.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 12:34 PM
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You're projecting.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 10:13 AM
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Quote me where I said this was his fault. Fine. Tell me where you stand, so there can be no possible misinterpretation. speculation I said he's in several high risk categories. That's a fact, not speculation. You are aware his life story is available online?
/r/MensRights04/12/14 10:07 PM
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He said he was raped, and he's in several high risk categories for PTSD, a condition which is often tied to a freeze state. We've been over this kind of thing before - I already know you feel that his rapist can't be expected to read his mind, or give a shit about checking in with him... You're okay with victim blaming. You've already made that more than clear.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 09:45 PM
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Because vulnerability to PTSD is genetic, and a freeze response can be tied to previous abuse?
/r/MensRights04/12/14 07:08 PM
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They could have seen a sexual encounter, broke it up, and then found out that it wasn't consensual. You seem to ignore or dismiss the fact that neither of the participants behaved like it was. I'm not questioning that a person might freeze up when scared, though I don't think it's that closely tied to fight or flight. Why? It's tied to PTSD, pretty heavily. By the way, his father had PTSD. And he grew up in an abusive environment.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 04:15 PM
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I said I questioned why he gave her his sperm, when she made clear she wanted to get pregnant and couldn't be trusted. His attitude of "It beats masturbation" doesn't answer the question, and sounds like something a troll would come up with. Your refusal to admit any of this, simply proves that you aren't here to argue in good faith.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 01:31 PM
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One woman who came with her boyfriend, who was outside the door when this happened, whipped my legs for ten minutes and then stripped my clothing and proceeded to rape me… Show me where it wasn't even remotely possible? If you'd argued his views on duty are sincerely fucked up, and that they're the real reason he's traumatized now, we could have that conversation... But on this planet, there's no such thing as "I have the right to fuck anyone who doesn't resist." And hiding behind rape survivors…
/r/MensRights04/12/14 05:32 AM
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No, because I only said I had reservations about parts of his story, not that I believed he was making it all up. And I've asked you why it's okay for posters on this subreddit to call him a liar, but not those in AMR? You keep dodging that one. Make a new thread and call out this subreddit, if you feel he's been completely honest with us.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 05:19 AM
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You mean, exactly like you've done from the start? And again, no matter how you try to spin this, I'm actually trying to help the man, despite any mistakes he's made.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 05:07 AM
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One of us actually gave the man advice, and linked him to a relevant case. It wasn't you, curiously enough. You were too busy trying to defend this subreddit when it didn't take a male rape survivor seriously.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 04:57 AM
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Him refusing to stop the project while she whipped him proved that women can be violent towards strangers, if given the opportunity - are you seriously arguing it was easy for him? Are you also going to claim that her abuse, and the context under which it happened, makes a freeze response less likely on his part? Finally, are you seriously suggesting that anyone can shrug off a freeze/flight response, if they just wish hard enough, after the fact? Or do you get all your facts about human threat …
/r/MensRights04/12/14 04:41 AM
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Okay. I was raped, by force, the first time it happened was when I was 5. Read this. Comments?
/r/MensRights04/12/14 04:30 AM
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I just linked you to proof that flight, fight, or freeze is real. I linked you to witnesses, one of who said they intervened. Explain how it's still questionable? Use nouns and verbs.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 03:47 AM
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Even sex where you give up control of your reproductive rights?
/r/MensRights04/12/14 03:25 AM
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