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Men had supremacy over their women. I mean we can cherrypick patriarchies sure, how about 1950, America, list me the downsides oh enlightened sage of wisdom and wit
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 03:45 AM
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Most people are commoners, hence the name
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 03:44 AM
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Patriarchy has demonstrated itself as a social glue across time and space Has whatever alternative lifestyle you're peddling so done
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 01:17 AM
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They're just gonna keep gaslighting until patriarchy is restored
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 12:51 AM
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Something can work for some individual outliers and/or freaks without being sufficiently broadly replicable to be the glue for an entire society
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 12:51 AM
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It was for all men by virtue of being men, that they were the heads of their households.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 12:50 AM
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Truly impossible without castration or some other crazy hormonal/psychological intervention Men win or women win you're either at the table or you're on the menu
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 10:40 PM
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Needs everyone to be involved to work like Obamacare
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 10:39 PM
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Duh lol
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 10:38 PM
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Ok, needs to be patriarchy-er, 1950 style
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 10:08 PM
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What do you mean
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 10:08 PM
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What would that look like
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 09:52 PM
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What do you want
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 09:20 PM
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the same thing essentially. What marriage offers today is the worst of both worlds Not genuine, still expensive, yet not even permanent
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 09:20 PM
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You forgot the slash s Charlie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:00 PM
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What do you want exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:55 PM
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Is there anything more loathsome than a woman who does the Crooked Hillary thing and openly acts like she's above following the rules she expects others to follow? Without question, it's worse when women do it. Even women seem to agree, call it InTuhRnUhLiZed MuHSoGUhNy or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:50 PM
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this woman has some thinly veiled sociopathic tendencies. Which ones don't 🥁 Tip your servers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:46 PM
1

Truth/proof kinda rhymes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:36 PM
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Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:34 PM
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But it rhymes with the original, so even cooler
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:32 PM
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And apparently not less dangerous lol Doesn't metoo reveal that Hookers gonna hook though 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:31 PM
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No it's more like women are deeply scared and neurotic about their safety until giney tingles shuts it all down lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:26 PM
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I'm riffing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:26 PM
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handmaid Actually even a bona fide matriarchy would be a desirable alternative to what we have now The Mosuo, for example. Children are raised by women and their kin. Not monogamous, but neither is there an expectation of paternal investment When you have sexual anarchy and expectation of paternal investment, you have a random blip that can't last very long
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:23 PM
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Patriarchy solves all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:22 PM
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That's a big one in terms of not giving random men the benefit of the doubt Chad Only 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:22 PM
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Patriarchy solves all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:20 PM
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Patriarchy solves all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:20 PM
1

Patriarchy solves all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:20 PM
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I know the expression lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:19 PM
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Just sayin, for this one, the truth is in the pudding
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:13 PM
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Yeah, but this particular one memed because it tickles that part of the mind that gets outraged by women thinking they're some snowflake when we all know awalt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:11 PM
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Mid isn't ugly (she herself called herself mid lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:10 PM
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There's a reason it's a meme lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:08 PM
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Temporarily
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:08 PM
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Nope she isn't wrong, just an observation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:07 PM
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Calm down bro - No u you’ve taken a bit of leap there haven’t you 😂 Either you're completely selfless or you aren't. Pick one Then shove it up your sanctimonious bung
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:06 PM
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Enough guys will be at some point, that's how "backwards" ended up happening in the first place And girls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:06 PM
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Lmao when you start adopting single (opposite sex who is a parent)'s children then you can maybe start considering running your mouth about other people's magnanimity, until then you know where you can shove your sanctimony
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:53 PM
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1) not all 2) also fine, they're free to prefer what they prefer, and without patriarchy their chastity is far less reliable anyway 3) the best thing to do as a man in an environment without patriarchy is not commit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:32 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:23 PM
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You'd be surprised at who ends up mattering Time will tell 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:21 PM
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Patriarchy dies, confusion and angst blossom
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:18 PM
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I think a woman who is a widow, I mean I'm not old enough yet to seriously consider someone who has been through so much frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:17 PM
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I do not hold myself to the same standard, and in the same way that women prefer wealthier men or taller men, it is not necessary to offer what you prefer Besides, fuck you gonna do about it: toss me in hYpOcRisY jAiL 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:16 PM
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Many women also agree with restoring patriarchy 🤷‍♂️ Guess we shall see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:14 PM
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why do men have an obsession with forcing these women to settle Men yearn for the return of patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:13 PM
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If only one gender can win, it may as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:09 PM
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Days of Summer!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:01 PM
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Very specific and niche issue
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:01 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:01 PM
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They're not going to say it like that lol, you're taking it literally but not seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:55 PM
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Hence patriarchy is needed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:54 PM
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Ok, your question is why does it matter It matters because that was probably a better framework, at least for men, the era in which grandpa didn't have to have game And so in short, men should be working to restore the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:53 PM
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Why 500
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:52 PM
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For commitment >0 For not commitment could be infinite for all I care
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:51 PM
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Sure it does What is being gained for this heightened frenzy? Absolutely nothing. Patriarchy when
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:51 PM
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Are you talking about boats? Or normal life (99% of non sailors)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:50 PM
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Whistleblowers are usually mid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:47 PM
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"It's protect and shelter woman and children always" must be tied to submission to a man, and to men generally Else it's everyone for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:45 PM
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The woman saying it would be the first one to say she doesn't have to submit to no man, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:42 PM
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It's just icky, like how women's height preference works
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:27 PM
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Def con 3
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:21 PM
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“REAL MEN wouldn't have a problem with this,” one woman argued in the replies on Twitter. “It's protect and shelter woman and children always.” Patriarchy when convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:20 PM
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No offense this is all just silly and left field type stuff relative to the topic at hand, either it's "valid" or "ok" or whatever for everyone to follow their preferences, or no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:13 PM
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Chad Only
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 05:12 PM
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It's current year, odds are a given girl is, odds are at least one guy she fucked quickly, and if you're not that guy for a given girl, move on to one for whom you are that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:11 PM
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This but unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:08 PM
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But dudes act like the ones under them left got the great girls too? Yeah right. Kettle for every pot is I think what dudes act like, which is statistically demonstrably true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:06 PM
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But of course, because of the absence of patriarchy They're getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:05 PM
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Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:43 PM
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You'd be shocked at what men will put themselves through to have pussy on tap, even today when it is voluntary and they can walk out if they so choose 🤣 And back then men cheating and seeing hookers/mistresses was more acceptable/turned a blind eye to so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:38 PM
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permanent state of neurosis and anxiety about the future Or prioritize and maximize that which is available today, which isn't permanence, but impermanence When in Rome, do as the Romans do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:37 PM
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Haha that's what it was like for men in the 70s!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:34 PM
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my point is that the younger woman you are with now will get older as well and priorities shift. Just keep swapping out. Just think of it as an early divorce As far as my opinion on marriage : It depends if you want kids or not. Kids flourish best under a two parent household. I do want kids. If I didn't, I don't think I'd give a shit about marriage. That's if marriage were permanent. It isn't. So might as well cut out the middleman of expensive, destructive divorce and start off as separate cop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:32 PM
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Fully military mobilized population? I'm not following the asserted connection I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:31 PM
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🧔‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:28 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:27 PM
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I am not a virgin lol it's like clockwork with these people Hurrdurr anyone who disagrees with me is an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:26 PM
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Nothing is more miserable for men than modernity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:23 PM
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If only one gender can win, it might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:23 PM
1

90% marriage rate. Exclusive to wartime?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:21 PM
1

Which would be worth it if marriage were a lifetime commitment rather than the glorified quickie that it is today, breakable at any time for no reason or any reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:21 PM
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I could argue that it’s this defeatist attitude that blocks a great deal of men from having meaningful relationships and going out there and getting actual sexual experiences Odds are your grandpa didn't have game
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:17 PM
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For most men things would be better all else being equal even if not the perfect image What man wouldn't want their place at the head of the table of their family assured
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:15 PM
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How do you figure? If everyone's a BB no one is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:14 PM
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The older women get, Who cares what ugly women want lmfao Anyway ok think I got it age mates are advancing and you feel like the transition/sticking the landing isn't going as well as one might hope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:13 PM
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Indonesia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:11 PM
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what is basically a human universal preference in societies which expect paternal investment Is the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:11 PM
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I mean, define neurotic then Aren't you saying "if my preference is not met, I won't continue" is neurotic when men do it? Is it somehow not neurotic when women do it? Either both are neurotic or neither are
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:09 PM
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N count is a poor simulacrum for virginity preference. It's made up . There I solved your false dilemma where's my nobel prize at
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:08 PM
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manosphere guff LMAO compliantly brainwashed by globohomo against what is basically a human universal preference in societies which expect paternal investment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:07 PM
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Oh so it's ok for women to be neurotic about height? Fix your own house first
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:07 PM
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I'm trying to figure out what results you got from aligning your focus the way you did. Ain't nothing better in this life than pussy, and I disagree with the premise of pretending something else is anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:05 PM
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the trade off is you'd be sent off to die in another man's battle. Classic misdirection. There are patriarchies even today not necessarily fighting wars in any way different from the west. Not necessarily hand in hand Nowadays women will continue to outperform men, and when we marry its for love. Temporary. Whims like the wind. Keep outperforming, I like to call it accelerationism
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:04 PM
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Some people can only focus on one thing at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:02 PM
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Patriarchy shepherded people into the proper destination. Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:01 PM
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Yeah I mean you're welcome to go for "any preference women have is good" who is stopping you, but for damn sure any man who lets the outside world dictate his preferences, especially some worthless frocio bootlicker, is making a huge mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:59 PM
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So you don't get laid at all? Or the getting laid wasn't worth it? Or you think you would've gotten laid more if you'd had the different priorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:58 PM
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You talked about paternity tests lol You demand men's psyche catch up to modern realities but not women's (e.g. height preferences) Hypocrite Skippy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:58 PM
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Patriarchy prevents all this nonsense. But in its absence, yeah you're damn right men are going to make sure they get the best sexual release deal. Love? Even marriage, the highest form of commitment, is today a glorified quickie breakable at any time for no reason or any reason. Like everything else without patriarchy, marriage is just a temporary playing house to maximize extraction from men. Patriarchy was the compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:57 PM
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It's a shitty suggestion and it's apparently not even one you're making to women lmao start there and once all of them have cast aside innate preferences then you can move on to the gender you're not a part of
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:56 PM
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Oh so it's ok for women to have preferences "My BoDy My ChoIce" but not men got it worthless frocio bootlicker
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:55 PM
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Someone is getting the best deal lol. That guy might as well be me. If I'm not that guy for a given girl, then I'll be that guy for some other girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:53 PM
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It's current year Odds are there's at least one girl she hasn't made wait It's like the old line feminists used to say...treat all MnMs as poisoned
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:52 PM
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Hurrdurr just bury the ick that's way better than actually honoring your preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:51 PM
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Why were these mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:50 PM
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This is why patriarchy existed Effeminate losers who shove down their true feelings for a life of bland compromise don't exactly have it figured out. This is the best play Best deal or no deal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:49 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:48 PM
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For any girl at all? The proportion of guys who won't be that guy for any girl at all is quite low. However, even that small proportion of guys are better off fucking hookers exclusively than getting less than a girl's best deal. Patriarchy dealt with this issue, but of course that is gone now, so this is the best way to deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:48 PM
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For any girl at all? The proportion of guys who won't be that guy for any girl at all is quite low. However, even that small proportion of guys are better off fucking hookers exclusively than getting less than a girl's best deal. Patriarchy dealt with this issue, but of course that is gone now, so this is the best way to deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:48 PM
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Not continuing an interaction with a girl is a ridiculous power fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:46 PM
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Best deal or no deal If it's about dry spells, it's better to fuck hookers than settle for anything less than best deal It's current year Odds are there's at least one guy she's fucked quickly If you're not that guy for a given girl, don't waste time on her that could be used on other girls for whom you are that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:44 PM
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Better to fuck a hooker than not get the girl's best deal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:44 PM
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I understand. But women have moved on and are acting like birth control and paternity testing have been invented. Reframing things so they don’t cause so much distress can be helpful. That’s why I suggest the language used might not be helpful to the person using it. Nah that's just taking reality and bowing to it like a servant. Like telling a woman "we're not in the jungle anymore princess no need for a tall guy even if short guys give you the ick" Haha how could I forget only men need to shov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:43 PM
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Got it, no response because it's absolutely correct and only fucking losers shove down their disgust about not getting a girl's best deal, which is why patriarchy had the rules it did
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:42 PM
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If it's about dry spells, it's better to fuck hookers than settle for anything less than best deal It's current year Odds are there's at least one guy she's fucked quickly If you're not that guy for a given girl, don't waste time on her that could be used on other girls for whom you are that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:41 PM
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Hurrdurr dickwetting might take longer lmao Best deal or no deal If it's about dry spells, it's better to fuck hookers than settle for anything less than best deal It's current year Odds are there's at least one guy she's fucked quickly If you're not that guy for a given girl, don't waste time on her that could be used on other girls for whom you are that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:40 PM
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The favor is mutual It being current year, odds are she's slept quickly with at least one guy. If you're not that guy for a given girl, better discard immediately to create time and space for the girls you are that guy for
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:39 PM
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What's so ridiculous about firm boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:38 PM
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What's bad about firm boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:38 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:36 PM
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Well duh, enjoy it harder and louder so that men wake up faster
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:36 PM
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Well yeah because it's men who have the uncertainty (women know it's their child) along with the expectation to paternally invest That's like saying only women are anxious about menstruating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:36 PM
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Women should just thank their lucky stars men let it last even for 1 second much less how long it has It is the way of nature that the strong rule and the weak submit Just a temporary slumber
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:35 PM
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Best deal or no deal Don't waste time with time wasters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:34 PM
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Best deal or no deal Don't waste time with time wasters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:33 PM
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The relevant comparison is whether the POC woman is better off than the POC man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:30 PM
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It's gotten worse, probably why the candidates are getting worse (fewer good candidates willing to put themselves through it)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:28 PM
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Don't pressure, just discard immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:27 PM
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Can do, and he's explaining why should do Yeah, she would be more compatible with someone willing to jump through her hoops, win win
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:27 PM
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Umm this is nonsense. It's just like any other incompatibility. Onto the next one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:26 PM
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Well yeah, so I'm saying that this isn't playing our in the (tongue in cheek?) rosy way you contemplate in your OP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:23 PM
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Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:22 PM
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Pretty universal preference really, at least in societies that expect paternal investment. Best way to drop it is to drop that expectation as with the Mosuo (matriarchy, children raised by mothers and their kin)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:15 PM
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Preference for women's chastity when committing is a human universal in societies that expect paternal investment Either need women's chastity back (restore patriarchy) or get rid of paternal investment (like the Mosuo...children are raised by the mother and her kin)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:14 PM
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Hence men need to support patriarchy for better ensured fidelity on the woman's part, woman's chastity, and if desired one way cheating. Have cake and eat too. No downsides
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:13 PM
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And whilst many men do care about these numbers there's no male solidarity here. So you can act like you've got an army behind you but you really don't. Patriarchy came about once and will again
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:11 PM
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You got the ickick eh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:05 PM
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This sick society is built exclusively to cater to women, men are just livestock to be maximally exploited for gain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:03 PM
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Not by the mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:02 PM
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You guys make it sound like it's easier to win a world war by yourself and using only a walking stick as a weapon, than it is to get a girlfriend who wants to fuck you. I can't figure out if it's sad or hilarious the way you teenagers see the world. Lol survivorship bias in full effect. Why don't you spit on them while you're at it exhibiting your superiority Get your sons to play sports, or at the very least get the kid to learn how to become an actor. You talk about becoming a pro like it isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:59 PM
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Sure, many men want company and a wife and even children, but honestly that is not something that realistically most men can get without great risk and sacrifice that may not be worth it anyway The marriage rate was 90% in 1950. What risk and sacrifice are you referring to? World War II? They can focus on what men always do: invent, create, destroy, fix... ...Drop out of the labor force at never before seen rates. That's what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:55 PM
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poor little rich girl
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:53 PM
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The grapes are sour lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:53 PM
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. They don't believe that the right culture can help and encourage average people to be very happy with other average people. Such culture is not in effect, therefore they're correctly describing the present reality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:41 AM
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both sides obviously contribute to the underlying causes of a breakup Without patriarchy, there is only instability
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:08 AM
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Nope, and it's happening
/r/AllPillDebate19/12/22 07:07 AM
0

Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:31 AM
0

make you more bitter about not having a girlfriend and long for the 1950’s So you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:56 AM
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I like it when people prefer what I have to offer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:39 AM
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Speak for yourself I run on emotion logic is a prison
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:10 AM
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"no homo"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:01 AM
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They of course don't see it this way, but the reality is that their sisters wives and mothers, and other women, are competing with them, whereas before they weren't People tend to want better outcomes more easily than worse outcomes less easily Who will be better able to exert this mutually held desire in the long run, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:44 PM
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It's all facts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:42 PM
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Your point seems to be "men need to be given back our place st the top of society or we wont work". But that's not the case. Simply the lowest tier of men. Most men will continue to compete with each other for resources, and they are the ones who hold power in society, and they certainly wouldn't be expending any of their capital to protect basement dwellers. The middle class is shrinking, and the fringe class is expanding The prime age labor force participation rate continues dropping. There's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:42 PM
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Leaves out the left out. 90% marriage rate at 1950. As well as the nature of their interactions as not the head of the household, and the knock on effects there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:41 PM
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They’re just a much smaller percentage of the population. Which will get larger, as the proportion of non-productive men increase and the problems that go along with that exceed the sustaining capacity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:15 PM
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Right magically one day men went from being "bad" to "good* 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:07 PM
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Already under way
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:55 PM
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Unless you’re looking for a gold digger Dick gets wet either way 🤷‍♂️ is not going to be attractive to young women And it will be to older woman? Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:54 PM
2

All problems solvable by patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:53 PM
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When it does, is it ok if I come back here and gloat and rub it in your face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:46 PM
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It's what all the cool kids are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:42 PM
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Money would've been better spent on a hooker 🤣
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 09:35 PM
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Doesn't have to be all to be unsustainable. In fact, the unsustainable level is likely far, far short of all. No matter, we are about to find out what the tipping point in fact is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:27 PM
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All the things that have changed since 1950 Temporary state of affairs given (and rescindable at any time) due to the noblesse oblige of men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:12 PM
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Not gonna happen. Patriarchy will return for basically the same reasons it came about in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:10 PM
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The have nots are growing. There is an unsupportable threshold. We're about to find out what that is on the pathway to exceeding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:10 PM
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Good luck keeping it up Men are catching on If only one gender can win it might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:09 PM
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It's good for everyone, because otherwise there will be a collapse, which is why it was that way before to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:49 PM
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It didn't used to be deserved or not deserved. You were just shepherded it to it. 90% marriage rate. That's what men need.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:24 PM
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Men need to be shepherded to their place at the head of the household, as they used to be, in order to be sufficiently incentivized to contribute to the workforce. That's where the disconnect is happening, and the vicious cycle bottoms out one way or another, since there is a capacity limit as to how many nonproductive men a society can support
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:18 PM
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Men appear not to feel that way. For example, men are fleeing the labor force, record low labor force participation rate which everyone is hemming and hawing about, but what it amounts to is men need the motivation of families and being at the head of them in order to be productive, and so the plummeting will continue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:02 PM
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I completely understand that a woman whose slept with 40 men could be viewed negatively and I can understand why. But that’s not most women. So what is your cutoff for understanding how it could be viewed negatively... Is it 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:52 PM
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It's just not possible. Look at what's happening now, for example, Women vastly outperform men in education and outearn them in degrees, but efforts to the extent they exist at all to give men a leg up have to be done in secret out of fear that the vicious mob of greedy beggar women despite how much they are excelling will nevertheless criticize as muhsogony and oppression any such efforts. Equality when convenient Wasn't going to go on this way forever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:50 PM
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It's not an opinion For example: Women vastly outperform men in education and outearn them in degrees, but efforts to the extent they exist at all to give men a leg up have to be done in secret out of fear that the vicious mob of greedy beggar women despite how much they are excelling will nevertheless criticize as muhsogony and oppression any such efforts. Equality when convenient Wasn't going to go on this way forever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:49 PM
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As is very evident, that is exactly what happens. That's what women are doing right now. Time to reclaim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:35 PM
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Same initials bbw
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:33 PM
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Because the imperatives of each are in conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:09 PM
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Misogyny is richly deserved
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:09 PM
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Women just do the inverse lol is that somehow better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:08 PM
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Won't be so smug then will ya bootlicker
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:07 PM
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"people" do the thing. You're whining about men aren't you lmao. Yeah "inserted" it's a public forum on the community thread fuck are you gonna do about it whine even more whiny ass
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:07 PM
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Is it ok if I come back here to gloat and rub it in your face when it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:06 PM
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Is it ok if I come back here to gloat and rub it in your face when it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:06 PM
1

Real great society you got there discouraging industry so men can preen over their appearance like women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:03 PM
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Male entitlement will help save the day and rightfully restore patriarchy If only one gender can win, might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:02 PM
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If it applies to both it makes no sense to talk about 1. Clearly you're the one triggered that either you're too ugly for special treatment or that you receive special treatment only because you're hot Oh well get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:59 PM
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A dominant, patriarchal civilization will not be seen again as long as we remain technological unless women but in; and if they do it's guaranteed that whatever form it takes won't benefit low value men. We're more likely to see old school patriarchy where high value men get most of the females and low value men get nothing and still have to brutally compete for it. Be careful what you wish for. It'll just be 1950 again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:59 PM
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If everyone is a BB, no one is That's the surrounding reality. That's what's on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:42 PM
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If it applies to both, saying it applies to men is a deceitful half truth, which women excel at spewing of course
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:35 PM
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Patriarchy arose once, it can arise again bootlicker
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:31 PM
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If everyone is a BB, no one is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:30 PM
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Yeah women never make those tradeoffs ever for any reason. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:28 PM
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Some people are better at covering this up than others (especially women)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:03 PM
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Compassion only when deserved If the feminists had listened to tone policing and shaming we wouldn't be in this sick depraved mess that is current society, So you know where you can shove your tone policing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:01 PM
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the male sex should be allowed to peacefully die out. Or at least we should engineer heterosexuality out of them because clearly it's an antisocial trait. Go ahead and try If you can't fulfilment in life solely from the product of your actions and must instead rely on parasitizing others, then you don't deserve it. If one gender is to win, might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:00 PM
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And that's why patriarchy kept all this in check. They knew what they were doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:46 PM
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I hate the idea that women are so oppressed in every aspect of life and they are afraid to even breathe because there are men around Unironically the reverse is true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:41 PM
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I just don't want to get an std from all the circlejerk There's no literal or even figurative reasoning here for why women wouldn't argue it if they actually had an argument It's like saying "I don't argue with snowflakes because they make me cold" I guess men have to do everything why don't you link the post and I'll come up with your argument for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:37 PM
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sugar babies Raw?
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 03:35 PM
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Your dark thoughts on perfectly normal human desire to reproduce It's weird You're a fucking weirdo Thank God you won't breed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:34 PM
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would you ever date someone from this sub to either try to understand their point of view or in hope they might come round to your way of thinking? Sounds like a zany romcom A good example, would a redpilled man date a feminist? She's paying her half
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:33 PM
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You think men during the industrial revolution had time to sport-fuck and speed-date? No, they were on their purpose Because they were married and had families young unlike this perpetual endless dating thing that happens now Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:32 PM
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Normie girls be like "meh what I want isn't out there/committing to me, so I'd rather be single" Men need patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:27 PM
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It's a risk, sure, because how do you know? You have to try without getting to be certain, and there's a lot of trust. It's basically just guessing. The only way to properly manage the risk is patriarchy. Without patriarchy, men who commit are making a dumb mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:27 PM
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That's why patriarchy kept things under check it's almost like they knew what they were doing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:26 PM
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Nature only when convenient eh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:23 PM
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grind more mule
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:20 PM
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never History THOSE PEOPLE ARE DEAD FUCKING SELF PITYING FAKE MARTYRDOM CUNTS EVERYWHERE IF I DONT BENEFIT FROM IT I WONT ANSWER FOR IT YOU FUCKING HEAR ME
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:19 PM
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nAtALiStS Are you talking about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:17 PM
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Personality is mostly inherited, and even then nurture part, people don't control how they were nurtured
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:14 PM
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Guy: Men don't hate on women being selective of who women have sex with. Me: Links to a video of a man insulting a woman for not fucking him after date 1. It's current year. Odds are she's fucked at least one guy right away. Men would be ok with women being selective in principle, but it being current year, it's anarchy and she's probably given it up early. It is what it is. No need to be rude. Just discard immediately if a girl doesn't put out on the schedule you expect, and never pay one red c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:10 PM
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Lol not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:47 PM
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Or, you know, you could just keep complaining about it on the internet and hope for some virtual sympathy. That's what women do (and worse) about n count preference Everything for women, that's what this society is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:46 PM
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What is the enforcement mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:18 PM
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It is what it is Fuck are you gonna do about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:17 PM
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Whatever it is they think is being nice, just stopping it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:17 PM
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If only one can win, might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:16 PM
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Being a father of multiple kids, it's always the biggest guilt on me is that I don't get to spend enough time with all my children," said Cannon, who is currently expecting his 12th child with Alyssa Scott.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:58 AM
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The box being: when they were just baby-makers & isolated at home. Is what winning feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:32 AM
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It's already happening lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:27 AM
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Anything that doesn't involve men wholly and selflessly serving women's every whim while expecting absolutely nothing in return is demonized in this sick society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:12 AM
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Wtf fuckin high ass
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:03 AM
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Oh my goodness his highness is so deeply modest and self effacing too, we must all bow and prostrate ourselves at the feet of his beneficient, totally selfless, not-at-all motivated-by-gloating- at-the-misery-of-others-in-a-misguided-and-futile-attempt-to-stuff-down-his-tRaUmAs-when-he-and-everyone-he-knows-are-fully aware-the-world-would be-a-much-better-place if-he-resorted-to-a-more-permanent-solution that-rids-those-around-him-of-the-annoying- inconvenience-of-having-to-put-up-with-him magni…
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 04:53 AM
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Dick needs wetting ascending beyond your hormones Fuck that shit You will not be able to force women inside the box that they came out of—The box being: when they were just baby-makers & isolated at home. Not with that attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:48 AM
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His highness is so magnificent and superior, look at him bringing his extremely helpful and totally not self aggrandizing wisdom to bear on the lowly, deplorable mere mortals who couldn't possibly hope to compare to his highness' perfect, impeccable recovery
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 04:37 AM
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And if we DID get it to work, it would be super bad for society. Define bad How do you make a relationship work having the views you do about men? Not like the other guys or what damn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:56 AM
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What is this moron lying and whining about? Captain Recovery over here is aggrieved that the OP's recovery isn't progressing as quickly as his highnesses' is
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 03:53 AM
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You could equally say that women should be given hormonal libido enhancers to make them as horny as men. Why is it always men that have to be shaped to be like women? Oh that's right Livestock
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:47 AM
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Exploited
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:37 AM
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It doesn't, and I agree that many relationships start that way. However, that's the other side of the coin...since women have higher standards for casual, the concomitant inference is that the man will be dating down if they end up in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:36 AM
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Both figures are provided
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:34 AM
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Based and horsepilled
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:28 AM
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Yeah that's what they're doing, and you were explaining the discrepancy by saying that some of them are in same sex marriages, and I'm saying that some of the discrepancy is that women in that age range are married to older men outside of that age range
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:23 AM
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We are livestock
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:11 AM
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Doesn't seem like there are. Exceedingly small scale Like, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:57 AM
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because for every hetero woman who is married, there's a hetero man marrying as well. Some of the women are married to older men hence the stats not 1 to 1
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:57 AM
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I don't know how anyone can ever hear each other I think they're pretending
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:39 AM
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I guess only one gender can win then Might as well be men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:39 AM
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Married to older
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:38 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:38 AM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:27 AM
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Where there's a will, there's a lay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:27 AM
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Just under a quarter of U.S. men between ages 40 and 50 were childless, and about 17% had never been married by the time they reached their 40s. Both figures were noticeably higher than for women who had reached middle age. Just under 16% of women between ages 40 and 50 were childless, and 14% had never been married, according to the report.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:25 AM
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This is a case of a man being led by his genitals, not a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:12 AM
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Sleep mode
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:08 AM
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Which is? I'm dying to know Our oppressors. Farmers to our farm animals. The masters, we're the servants. We don't choose to be birthed by them. We don't choose to be born. We don't choose to be born with the compulsion to fuck. All of this is just the drowning sea we are thrown into. And as our reward for being the farm animals is criticism and blame Misogyny is a perfectly expected reaction to this state of affairs. Should be grateful it's not worse than it even is. No other animal species wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:04 AM
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What a cunt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:00 AM
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Can't take the money with you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:56 AM
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But she didn't have to start fucking him to stab him lol Omg woman entraps man and stabs him it's men's fault Your posts should be published everywhere so that men know what women are before they grow old and dementia takes them It is such an education
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:56 AM
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Easy come, easy go. Is it ok if I come back and gloat that I was right when it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:55 AM
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Nothing feels better than pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:54 AM
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Why blindfold? Why have sex? She says elsewhere she didn't want to kill him
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:54 AM
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Women good man bad because her kink involved (not killing, she specially said she just wanted to hurt him) I wish I could publicize your views so men know what they gave up their hegemony for. Look at this woman who exists out there aren't you glad for modernity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:51 AM
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Smuggery against reddit strangers really seems to have helped you recovery from your whiny TrAuMa
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:50 AM
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He was fucking blindfolded during sex Anything to defend women eh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:49 AM
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Here's hoping
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:46 AM
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It was during sex she had him blindfolded But of course men are also way more violent in general YOU SAID ONLY
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:45 AM
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Hookers 🤷‍♂️
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:41 AM
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Like the other commenter said, maybe collapse was just inevitable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:41 AM
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Prime age men increasingly drop out of the labor force--> there is a limit beyond which this is no longer sustainable-->collapse Something can be smart in theory but unworkable for other reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:40 AM
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Won't make the collapse any less unpleasant doe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:39 AM
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Prime age men increasingly drop out of the labor force--> there is a limit beyond which this is no longer sustainable-->collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:38 AM
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+1
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:37 AM
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Compared to what
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:36 AM
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Only men get off on harming others https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/12/16/shocking-video-shows-moment-woman-admits-to-stabbing-date-as-revenge-for-us-drone-strike-in-iran/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:36 AM
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Aweyeee
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:35 AM
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Hope you've got the same energy when you're experiencing the results of same grandpa
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:35 AM
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Made nearly a mil this year 🤷‍♂️
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:35 AM
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Knowingly "cucked", but it's irrelevant because that's the way the structure is set up. Paternity certainly only matters in a society where there's an expectation of paternal investment, but since in the Mosuo they're raised by the woman and her kin, well, the woman knows it's her child
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:34 AM
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We're all going to be experiencing the consequences once the proportion of nonproductive men exceeds the capacity of the system to support the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:33 AM
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Modernity will be everywhere soon enough
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:30 AM
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Well the outcome, we will all have to endure it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:29 AM
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Not everything is the responsibility of evil women. They will share in the outcomes all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:28 AM
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Sure, men are perpetual children Fuck you gonna do about it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:27 AM
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It's taught them to drop out Enjoy supporting them through your hard earned dollars thank you for your service o7
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:26 AM
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No, it was having families, and now that they increasingly don't (and even the ones that do, even fewer are at the head of those families), they will increasingly stop working, and that is what is happening. Enjoy 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:25 AM
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People are what they are "I wish they were something else" isn't really going to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:24 AM
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Lmao
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:19 AM
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Having the families is what gave them the motivation to work
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:18 AM
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Be the casual sex guy, if not for a given girl then the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:17 AM
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Most of them probably can't name that specially. They just know they don't feel like contributing and so they won't. Families just happened before, and then they felt the urge to rise to the occasion. No longer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:17 AM
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Americans are drinking more now than when Prohibition became the law of the land
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:15 AM
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Generally until they have their own families. That used to happen pretty early on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:14 AM
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only women are allowed to want anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:13 AM
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Men without patriarchy are lost
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:12 AM
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I'm starting to think the ones dropping out are the smartest
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:11 AM
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The guy in 1965 was correct. You're about to see the dramaric conclusion Whatever else it will be, it won't be funny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:11 AM
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He doesn't need a therapist He needs a patriarchy
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:06 AM
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In matriarchies like the Mosuo, children are raised by women and their kin. The women do all the work. The men chill all day Coming to a social strata near you Many such cases already
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:05 AM
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Apparently there isn't a limit
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:05 AM
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We are about to find out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:05 AM
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They were creating babies lmfao Society will be fine. Your peace of mind is counting on believing it (You might be old, but those at your age at the collapse of every empire also hoped the sun would set on their consciousness before having to endure it)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:04 AM
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Let's see how low the prime age male labor force participation rate can go, and how many nonproductive men a society can support
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:00 AM
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Let's see how low the prime age male labor force participation rate can go, and how many nonproductive men a society can support Like everything else, there are probably limits
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:00 AM
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It's a thing that happens Ever been to a club even once?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:59 AM
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Apparently not enough for an increasing number of men (see above)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:59 AM
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Literally not once It's just you I have seriously never seen something so icky in my life as you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:57 AM
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Double the supply of workers, halve the income You know, it's fine In matriarchies like the Mosuo, children are raised by women and their kin. The women do all the work. The men chill all day Coming to a social strata near you Many such cases already
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:56 AM
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Enough to work Now no incentive Enjoy whatever this is I guess lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:55 AM
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A family Being unemployed is a lot more fun nowadays. There's video games, porn, the internet, and opioids. What more could a man want? Are symptom, not cause
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:52 AM
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Men were incentivized to work by having families Without the incentive, well, you get the above Here's hoping that welfare state has room to grow
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:51 AM
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Odds on bathroom fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:50 AM
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Lmao regardless of why they're dropping out of the workforce, it's indisputable that they are And they're going to need to eat Thank you for your service o7 Up until the 1960s, work rates for prime age men in America were consistent and very high. And then starting in the mid 60s, something changed. And since about 1965, we have seen a relentless and almost (inaudible), consistent retreat from the workforce for those men. Today, the work rate for prime age men is lower than it was in early 1940,…
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:49 AM
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Unfortunately when it comes to the thing that lies beneath the vulnerability, some are beautiful and inspiring and some are pathetic and whiny I'm sure you already know which one you are Sorry to be the one to break it to you but not all "be yourself" is created equally
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:49 AM
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Who should they listen to, some stunted freak stuck in his teenhood Check out this timing. I'm sure the coinciding with the feminism/sexual revolution is wholly coincidental Up until the 1960s, work rates for prime age men in America were consistent and very high. And then starting in the mid 60s, something changed. And since about 1965, we have seen a relentless and almost (inaudible), consistent retreat from the workforce for those men. Today, the work rate for prime age men is lower than it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:47 AM
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Feminism/sexual revolution (check out that timing below)= men don't have their seat at the head of the table of their family. Men are fleeing the workforce because that's what was incentivizing them Let's see how low the prime age male labor force participation rate can go, and how many nonproductive men a society can support Women can enjoy being mommy and daddy, breadwinner and homemaker Hope this is what you meant you wanted! Up until the 1960s, work rates for prime age men in America were co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:45 AM
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Alas the relevant idea here is watch what they do, not what they say Also, many of the men dropping out of the labor force, they may not be able to articulate exactly what it is that makes it not seem worthwhile But in prior years, they would have had a family, and thus an incentive Let's get that welfare state Bernie let the modernity survivors fund it
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:41 AM
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Long as there's enough not-dissatisfied men, nothing to worry about 🤷‍♂️ Thing is, the prime age men labor force participation, it's not just stagnating, it's dropping Let's find out how many nonproductive men a society can support
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:33 AM
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Aww poor widdle whiny frocio begging anonymous strangers about how quickly he had to grow up so gross and pathetic like a little girl, Then you go around talking all tough lmfao you are literally the most disgusting person to have ever existed in the history of humanitu Pweasaase mommmmyy can iiiii ride a ponnnnmny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:31 AM
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Yeah women are so universally happy now 🤣 At worst, only one gender can win Fine Men it is
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:30 AM
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1950 would be fine 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:28 AM
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They're trying things like muh generous maternity policirs, but those countries that have those have the lowest birthrates So while governments recognize the problem, they're too chickenshit to implement the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:28 AM
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Made plenty of money doesn't really matter any society that guarantees men at the head of the table of their families, that's what I really crave, and the men dropping out of the labor force left and right are smart enough to have realized that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:25 AM
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Well leave aside happy or whatever, until like 60 years ago people would marry young and all that's bundled into that would incentivize them, not this endless infinite perpetual dating thing. Modernity is a great way to experimentally find out how many nonproductive men society is capable of supporting...that prime age male labor for participation rate just keeps on dropping
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:19 AM
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You're not as clever as you think you are. Hopefully for your own sake you realize that before it gets you into trouble irl Just sheer unadulterated 'sex that isn't with me upsets me, a grown adult'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:11 AM
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Governments sure are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:08 AM
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AF/BB in the wild
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:04 AM
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70-80% overweight/obesity rate Can't compete
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:03 AM
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For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:02 AM
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The have nots shouldn't always hate on the haves - Mostly they should learn from them. Presumes it's about learning There's the Matthew effect For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. (the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:02 AM
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Why so hostile? Guy just wants to be the casual sex guy. If you're not that guy for a given girl, next. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:59 PM
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Sociosexuality isn't the same as wanting to overall, could just be with the monogamous partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:57 PM
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A government program with massive birthing incentives and the expectation the man and woman will take turns staying home to care for the young child is one example of how equality could be maintained The countries with the most generous policies in this regard have the lowest birthrates. Gotta treat em lean to keep em keen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:55 PM
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Women would rather be victims than happy 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:52 PM
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Checkmate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:48 PM
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Due to factors outside of my control Typical woman lmao I just tripped, slipped and fell on his dick in these clothes For oranizational tips try Marie Hondo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:44 PM
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Sure, just sayin They find other ways too lol like prison guards apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:43 PM
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Even if so, planning to have any children? Guess what you're setting them up to be lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:43 PM
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It's not that you specifically attract broken people. Broken people will leech on to anyone that will let them, they don't discriminate. So why do you let them? No one does anything for free. People do things that they get something out of, even if what they're getting isn't readily visible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:42 PM
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If you want traditionalism, offer it Submission is part of traditionalism Otherwise, modernity for modernity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:40 PM
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So a couple of generations of doing this and we are back to Patriarchy Not fast enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:37 PM
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In the context of that post, this question amounts to can you forget what you know about a person
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:34 PM
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Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:33 PM
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Women will find every way possible to milk their sexuality for their gain that's liberation dontcha know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:32 PM
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Comparing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:31 PM
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Funny that this is the best comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:31 PM
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Well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:30 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:30 PM
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Lol criminals still reproduce the most
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:30 PM
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Lol no they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:44 PM
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Wealth has been studied to make people happier, and wealthier people are less moral All of this is just "brainwashing of fake imprisoning neurotic dying middle class morality" The rich (and the poor) know better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:43 PM
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It's almost like patriarchy had reasons for being how it was 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:41 PM
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Morality without reciprocation and commonality is a sacrifice made for nothing Follow the laws, nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:34 PM
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Unless for some higher purpose, leaving anything on the table during a race to the bottom is martyrdom, a sacrifice made for nothing. No one's stopping you though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:30 PM
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"just stop being nice", women hate that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:29 PM
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I'm saying that men won't stop until women do, and they aren't and won't, so it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:25 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:23 PM
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So I might not like it but I'm not gonna do anything about it. But if you ask me my opinion and how I choose to conduct myself, and how I expect the people who I call friends and role models to conduct themselves - it's don't be a lying, manipulative POS. That goes for men and women. Women can stop lying first 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:22 PM
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Pressuring nah, but "sure I'm interested in a relationship... with the right girl" is fair game. Just look two comments up for the girl who thinks it's ok to lie about n count lol Don't like it, beg your legislator to change the law🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:12 PM
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no need A lot of women really want to have kids without the stigma of single motherhood or testtube babyhood
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:10 PM
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Is this some sex euphemism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:09 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:07 PM
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Not reliably enough or in sufficient numbers to be accessible. no way to know you're you. It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:07 PM
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Hot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:05 PM
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This whole n count thing is a poor simulacrum of virginity preference. Good luck locking down a girl while you're in high school I guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:05 PM
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However, it's natural to have a better impression of someone that paid for you, because he did something nice for you. You would probably have a better impression of anyone that did something nice for you on a date or not. I don't care to make a better impression for a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:04 PM
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No it isn't, how's it saying that at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:03 PM
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If you’re always running into sluts, you’re existing in current year
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:03 PM
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Yeah I mean it is lol that's why the saying goes "you're paying the hooker to leave" You seem not to put much value to avoiding negative feelings it's that classic middle class self flagellation suffering = good morality that keeps them locked in their prison Even FWB, yeah if the tradeoffs are worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:02 PM
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Difference is men want to fuck both the short term and the long term women (if anything the long term one will be hotter), while for women odds are the short term guy is hotter Inflicting imprisoning misery over a longer period of time is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:01 PM
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Even if you saw the same one regularly, there are no ties making it difficult to break the tie
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:59 PM
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You're free to prioritize your interests, and so are men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:58 PM
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Settling is a long term arrangement you're trapped in You're not trapped with the hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:58 PM
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Everyone can lie about everything Ain't no laws against it "Oh sure I'm interested in a relationship...with the right girl" *Rent fancy Airbnb and pass it off as your house Go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:57 PM
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What was the shortest and longest amount of time it took for that to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:56 PM
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"surely some other girl will take one for the team agree that the soft qualities will make him worth fucking but it sure as shit ain't gonna be me"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:55 PM
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Criminals have more children
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:54 PM
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It's only available in like 2-4 states depending how you define it. can't have too much humanity in the criminalization complex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:54 PM
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Yeah the disease of modernity is spreading everywhere. Pre-sexual revolution was better for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:53 PM
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Mediocrity, compromise, settling, etc. are for the mediocre It's basically what women do "I'd rather be single than settle" except there is a difference that men have a higher sex drive, so the equalizer is to quench the thirst with hookers Not necessarily "Stacy" but whatever constellation of attributes you are going to be satisfied with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:52 PM
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The research they mention in the article? I think it's this one https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811080749.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:51 PM
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Yeah so I'm saying that's a better way to meet the need than a suboptimal civilian pairing. Quench the thirst and then keep going
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:49 PM
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It's not my theory it is the OP's theory. My theory is that concluding that 70% of them cheat on their spouses based on the results from an extramarital dating app survey is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:49 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:48 PM
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Given that women decide if the sex happens, that's the reward and they are pickier if it's less investment. So if you're a guy, be that guy for a given girl, and if you aren't, move on to the next one for whom you are that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:48 PM
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All else being equal, quicker will be better for the guy not only because guys love fucking but for other reasons like the one you mentioned that happened to be incidental It is what it is, that's the game
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:47 PM
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Better to make decisions not fueled by the need to dick wet, as those will be the optimal decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:44 PM
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Worth them questioning their hooker reluctance
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:44 PM
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70% though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:43 PM
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Every individual is unique and has their own preferences and priorities when it comes to relationships. Oh sure everyone's a special snowflake, but overall Women raise their standards for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:43 PM
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Women raise their standards for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:42 PM
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Lol so the thing to explore is necessarily whatever else but not how they came to the conclusion they don't want to fuck hookers, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:40 PM
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Better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:39 PM
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a survey by extra-marital dating app Gleeden
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:39 PM
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Most men were better off pre-emancipation You're right though, modernity is spreading everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:38 PM
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It's current year Odds are ..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:36 PM
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What's the shortest and longest amount of time that's taken
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:36 PM
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Let's say you see someone and then don't approach them because they're not attractive enough to. Tradeoff made She was attractive enough to pursue if she was responsive. Someone hotter, maybe less responsiveness would be ok Happens all along the trajectory
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:33 PM
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If you're gonna pay might as well pay for guaranteed sex with a hotter girl Of course, that has nothing to do with your own reasoning RE fucking hookers. You're married lol by that reckoning you're already a betabux So is it muh STDs, muh sex trafficking, something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:32 PM
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You clearly don't even think it should be ok the table lol, or if anything only as a last resort You're understating your perspective in the latest comment Like the other guy said, constant post nut clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:23 PM
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No one knows, maybe that's what awaits on the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:22 PM
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Decreases birthrate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:21 PM
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Haha basically yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:21 PM
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It is what it is. If she wants you to wait, onto the next one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:20 PM
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Attractive is attractive Catering to gaze means doing the things that make you attractive, of which that is the most fundamental. Is a person only "worthy"/not worthless if they're attractive? Is a person only "worthy"/not worthless if they have a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:20 PM
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Bold of you to assume that they, in this scenario, don't have a side guy they fuck while still dating the other schmuck. Ugh imagine waiting in current year
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:18 PM
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The real reason is a conspiratorial mass gaslighting to keep the nice nice in order to keep them ready for exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:17 PM
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He knew that tradeoff. She was no responsive early on, and apparently not hot enough to make it worth pushing through anyway Tradeoff assessment can happen early on for both genders also.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:16 PM
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Men let themselves get into suboptimal situations because they have the constant urge to fuck and accepting bs seems better than dick continuing to remain dry Fucking a hooker is better than doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:16 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that sometimes women are the direct cause More women attempt suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:15 PM
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There's always tradeoffs across different aspects of preferences. E.g. girls make up for being less attractive all else being equal in other ways (or can be more abrasive which they compensate for by being hot) Take the hot-crazy matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:14 PM
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This response to what's being said is gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:08 PM
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Guess as for the OP that particular girl wasn't hot enough. There's some threshold everyone has, that varies depending on the person, where it's like "fuck it it's worth it even if it doesn't work".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:07 PM
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Meta-gaslighting "Why'd you hit yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:03 PM
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without blaming men Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:02 PM
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Modernity is spreading everywhere just a matter of time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:01 PM
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It's not about it being triggering, it's about the idea that stating a reality is expressing the opinion that something is of little worth That's the definition of disparaging. But for example "women find short men less attractive" isn't an opinion Words have meanings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:00 PM
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He's tweeting constantly, dueling with AOC, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:59 PM
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Yeah TRP is making a huge mistake not including fucking hookers as part of the toolbox or whatever, I unironically agree Guess I've got my answer to the question: you do think you're better than your richer and more accomplished betters who fuck hookers Hope you're recession proof 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:58 PM
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Keep around the other ones who are talking to that make you feel good. It doesn't matter whether what she did is her "fault" or not, at worst chalk it up to bad timing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:57 PM
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I guess that depends on what happens in the long term. I could see him becoming even more obsessive over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:56 PM
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Why does it have to be either or?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:54 PM
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Is saying that short men are less attractive to women disparaging to short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:54 PM
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Thing is that many men will let a girl walk all over them, it's like a frog boiling in water, they suppress one part they're uncomfortable with and they keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:53 PM
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That male gaze = preferring women who aren't fat isn't disparaging any more than saying women prefer tall men is disparaging short men It's just stating a reality Is reality disparaging?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:46 PM
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Maybe you think you're better than the poor/working class men who pay for sex, but you also think you're better than the rich men who do? So the neurotic imprisoned middle class with its web of useless rules and ideals is the peak existence lmao Suit Yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:45 PM
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Men who are cool with fucking hookers: *Ancestor men *Rich men today *Poor/working class men today Men who think fucking hookers is beneath them: *The neurotic, imprisoned, effeminate middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:43 PM
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Worked for the ancestors men, and for rich and working class/poor men today 🤷‍♂️ You aren’t gonna make it through life without negative feelings. Minimize is the best that can be done, and that's the thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:42 PM
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I don't think saying that pursuing not being fat would be a fundamental part of catering to the male gaze amounts to "ragging on fat people" Why do you think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:40 PM
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Whatever avoids negative feelings the best
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:39 PM
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I think twitter is different in that the tweeting itself seems to have a very addictive component to it, now jet fueled by the fact of his being its face
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:37 PM
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1) Long as dick stays wet, no incentive to change. 2) even dry spells are better filled fucking hookers than accepting a suboptimal outcome just to wet dick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:37 PM
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Ah triggered gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:36 PM
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Better to be patient and end up with an optimal outcome than just rush into it Their frustrated by dry dick in the interim, and frankly they'd be better off paying a hooker than imprisoning themselves into suboptimal "Never settle" is not just good advice for women lol it's also good advice for men The biological urge to fuck, well, the ancestor men knew how to deal with it. You fuck hookers. Guys today thinking they're too good to do so is modern effeminate nonsense. Purely a middle class neuro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:35 PM
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No you don't. If I'm gonna play I'm gonna play to fucking win
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:34 PM
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"I know you are but what am I"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:33 PM
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The OP didn't say men are catering to it either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:33 PM
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To put it really succinctly, modern women want egalitarian, 50-50 relationships Ok, great, start with date #1
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:32 PM
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Whatever the pressure is, they aren't actually catering to it, because they aren't meeting the most fundamental standard of not being fat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:31 PM
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Or, just go along with the ones that play out ideally. Responsive communication from the being. It's so early on anyway. It's not like no women anywhere ever aren't responsive from the start lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:29 PM
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I'm saying the guy shouldn't do it lol. If some other guy wants to it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:29 PM
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🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:28 PM
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If women never wanted to cater to the male gaze you'd be complaining a lot harder. If you think there's no pressure on women to look good on women tben you're not listening to women. Ok I'll try again to explain this There's 1) Messaging pressuring to do the thing 2) actually doing the thing OP was saying there's no #1 on women. Your response was women are actually doing #2. However, they aren't, because they aren't putting the fork down. Men are indeed complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:27 PM
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It'll just be a button you can tap to stimulate the proper brain circuits lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:25 PM
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Whether it helps depends on the individual. If the second ghost is gonna put him into a six week funk, for example, well, that's the reality of his nature and character and rather than pretend he's some other person with different nature he may as well act in accordance with his nature
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:22 PM
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Her premise is that women cater to the male gaze, but clearly they do not The original commenter's premise is that men are instructed to cater to the female gaze. All There's more fat men. demonstrates is that they aren't listening, not that the messaging isn't there. Also there are more severely obese women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:21 PM
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Then let them pay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:19 PM
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Used to be = past women lmao I'm talking about now. It's muhsogynistic now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:19 PM
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Oh cool so you'd date a homeless smelly ugly guy you hate because he happens to be around you one day lmfao Most people like to act like they're such special profound snowflakes because acknowledging the reality would implode their medicare minds Everyone has to offer something, which it doesn't take very much thinking to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:18 PM
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That they won't put the fork down says it all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:17 PM
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They only want to be nice if it is rewarded in itself, so it creates negative feelings to persist with that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:17 PM
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Some people have thinner skin than others and would rather avoid the second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:17 PM
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Adjusting to the male gaze is about way more than just weight. It's a fundamental thing. They're not doing it. They don't care. They just call the preference muhsogynistic and move on. Ergo, they aren't catering to the male gaze how do you explain the behavior of Insta-thots and OnlyFans creators? An extremely small minority, as women like to remind when it's convenient Or the “how to attract a man” messenging included in women’s magazines forever? Not anymore, it's muhsogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:16 PM
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By that logic any advice (This was not my list, it was the commenter's list) structure their entire life, style, hobbies and personalities to the female gaze, to what women want in their dating partners. Would be about extracting whether given to women or men. The advice given women that you list isn't even about extracting from men though, it's about being some career bossgirl "lean in" or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:15 PM
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Lol don't understand what this is but Wikipedia sez It is not considered useful for sorting, but may be used for educational purposes, to contrast it with more efficient algorithms. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:13 PM
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Women also do the thing of pedestalizing an image of men and then being disappointed by the reality that emerges
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:12 PM
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I don't know much about this stuff but could be that Tesla big fish are spooked by how much of his time/brain space are being occupied by twitter and tweeting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:12 PM
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improve themselves for men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:11 PM
1

U
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:10 PM
2

1) More severely obese women than men 2) you were saying women cater to the male gaze when they clearly do not. 3) the OP was asking why are only men told to, and your response was that women are used to catering to the male gaze when this demonstrates that they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:09 PM
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Which spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:08 PM
1

People who think being nice should itself be rewarded and are upset that it isn't are better off not being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:07 PM
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This whole "oh cool her highness might actually give me some action" is a far bigger problem for most guys. Let it go forward with some other girl who doesn't make the mistake. Call it bad timing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:06 PM
1

Keep Hattie Mae outcha mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:05 PM
1

Thus forget about being nice, try it some other way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:04 PM
2

but if you've got other options fair play Options don't come from thin air. It's more like cutting out that which is perceptually cancerous rather than cutting your nose to spite your face...freeing yourself up to cultivate and pursue other more suitable options
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:03 PM
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Women have been adjusting themselves to the male gaze for just as long. 70% overweight or obese 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:01 PM
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He doesn't like not being responded to. That bothers some people, men and women. others aren't so bothered by it. that girl is a better fit for those types of guys that aren't bothered by it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:00 PM
2

He will pivot immediately if it’s the best course of action even if it makes him look bad This is important though for the type of business twitter is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:59 PM
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Because women often already have options so their challenge is generally sorting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:59 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:58 PM
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People only have so much mental/emotional space, some more/less than others. For him, non responsiveness is bothersome, so it's going to occupy mental/emotional space that's better used cultivating and pursuing other opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:57 PM
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Typical woman thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:56 PM
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Uhh yeah buddy I see you in the other thread about the non responsive girl too being like "waste your time on nonsense". So right back at ya You go get those preferred germs then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:56 PM
1

Being nice isn't necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:55 PM
1

U
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:51 PM
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If anything they both did. He wants someone more responsive, so no sense in wasting time with someone less responsive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:51 PM
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Why waste time on that girl and instead have time available for another girl who will be more responsive 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:50 PM
1

I for one don't care what you believe. If you prefer to believe all men are violent, that is zero skin off my back
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:49 PM
2

you see Meg, you're what they call a practice girl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:48 PM
2

It's an advertising business that he's running in a way advertisers are allergic to. Maybe he has a plan as to what to do about that (heavily court sympathetic advertisers)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:47 PM
1

Pretty predictablu lol vetting out people who I don't want to have anything to do with, and continuing with those it will continue with on germs that I prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:45 PM
2

Preferring to commit to chaste women is basically a human universal, I'm not sure of anyone who has ever preferred an infinity tall partner (whatever that would mean)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:44 PM
2

It goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:40 PM
2

May the superior prevail and the inferior be ground into misery
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:39 PM
1

https://screenrant.com/black-mirror-highest-rated-episode-imdb-white-christmas/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:34 PM
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It's not universal. How widespread, who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:32 PM
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Right so tragedy of the commons lol There's a reason it's called that Long as there's a next one doesn't really matter in a broader sense what happens Tell all your sisters to unionize and go on strike lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:27 PM
2

Even without read receipts, they probably saw it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:26 PM
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If there is a possibility it is going to improve your odds, and you don't like being nice for its own sake anyway, might as well give it a try. What have you got to lose? Worst case scenario you've discarded something you didn't want to do anyway (be nice for its own sake)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:25 PM
4

left her on read in real life. 👑 Reminds me of that black mirror episode
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:20 PM
2

so shouldn’t you be bending over backwards to make it more appealing to women? By that point goal already achieved lol onto the next one What like a tragedy of the commons thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:19 PM
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Seems like some other people want to deny it's possible at all costs Because of the implications
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:11 PM
1

You get the society you pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:10 PM
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They're going to complain if the man doesn't do it, so a man not willing to do it is ill served choosing her in the first place. You can do what you want,. If it's not acceptable to your dating pool, that's a you issue. If it's just about filling dry spells, better to pay a hooker than pay for a strong independent woman Best deal or no deal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:09 PM
2

Musk, via his family office, this week privately offered to sell additional equity at the same $44 billion valuation that he's essentially admitted was an overpay. When she's ready to settle down 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:58 PM
1

You don't care that much about social studies so in what alternative way could someone go about establishing to you the premise that the study has
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:56 PM
1

Hashtag murrica problems (and even then only partially)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:56 PM
1

What would you prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:54 PM
1

Cute
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:53 PM
3

Yep n count is a poor simulacrum for the actual preference, virginity preference
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:52 PM
1

Could be they're doing it on the DL...casual sex inherently doesn't happen as publicly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:50 PM
1

I don't care about making a better first impression for a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:48 PM
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The Bored Sex Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:48 PM
1

Doesn't have to be all to say that it improves the odds of the desired outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:43 PM
1

The dissatisfaction that makes them want to trade up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:43 PM
2

She's really into you if your thing works
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:42 PM
1

What's preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:42 PM
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The parameters are probably treating the desirability of the options available as irrelevant, so maybe the 50 year olds are cleaning up with women around their age?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:42 PM
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Younger women are hotter. To deny it is what would be self destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:32 PM
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It's not a remedy against the dissatisfaction lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:32 PM
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CMV: a guy shouldn't pay for a date, they should split the check, unless the woman is traditional If she's a traditional woman, pay all the way But if she's modern/feminist/strongnandindependent/bossgirl, she should be held to the courage of her convictions Guy should pay his share, and if the girl "forgot her wallet", surely she has a Venmo account. FAQ (these are actual arguments I've seen women make when this topic comes up on Reddit) what about the wage gap? Childless unmarried women in citi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:30 PM
3

The age gradient for women definitely surprised us — both in terms of the fact that it steadily declined from the time women were 18 to the time they were 65, and also how steep it was,” said Elizabeth Bruch, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Michigan and an author of the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:28 PM
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personally prefer https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.amp.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:25 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/zo5svz/the_nice_guy_is_a_scapegoat/j0lrb38/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:19 PM
1

Even marriage today is a glorified quickie, so casual is the best thing on offer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:19 PM
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This but unironically
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:18 PM
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It doesn't make sense that women decline in attractiveness as they age?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:18 PM
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They stop feeling attracted by assholes as they grow up, since they don't actually have that much to offer as men. So it's just a coincidence they're not as attractive as they were lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:14 PM
1

Don't you have kiddos doe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:12 PM
1

Haha that's a cute sub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:07 PM
1

Damn not you too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:05 PM
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I mean are you saying it's true but he shouldn't say it because it'll hurt their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:05 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:04 PM
1

That dating bullies behaviour just vanishes gradually as they grow up. There isn't a magical age at which it just stops. They "grow out of it" as they lose their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:04 PM
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Sorry if this is incoherent, I took an edible. Obv
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:03 PM
1

Nothing works on everyone It's a good way to vet for who is super into you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:40 PM
1

Many actual alphas are in prison. The mission creep and omniscience of the modern justice system casts a wide (and in some cases unnecessary) net and it's a bad context for many of that kind of guy to stay out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:39 PM
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Even marriage is no longer permanent, so just think of it as an early divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:38 PM
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Even accounting for the impact of nurture, you also don't control how you are nurtured
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:30 PM
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So is height, but the visceral reaction is the same.. Ick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:28 PM
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Chadsexual
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:28 PM
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if the chicks are in their late teens and early 20s Ie when they're actually hot (some stay hot beyond that, but then they will have the same patterns) Their change in tastes is just a practical adjustment based on their declining sexual attractiveness Am I talking to dudes who were raised in middle-class families, born to cities that aren't the ghetto, or am I talking to wannabe thugs who grew around drug-dealers and hardened criminals? The middle class is a useless prison that doesn't even off…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:15 PM
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Gotta start somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:14 PM
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They know the solution but lack the courage to implement it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:12 PM
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My theory as to why the formatting is weird is because OP already posted this before and it was removed by the mods, so he’s trying to prevent it from being auto removed. Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:10 PM
1

Exactly, they should up their courage and stop playing nice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:09 PM
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Personality is mostly inherited
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:09 PM
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They lack the courage to do it. It does take courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:08 PM
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If it's not useful, might as well stop
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:08 PM
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It's current year Bowling alone And that's from 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:08 PM
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Yeah being a lawful asshole is probably less risky
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:07 PM
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They should just try out not being nice 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:07 PM
2

Better to be toxic than nice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:05 PM
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Why is it that women can only smell nice guys being manipulative but not smell that bad guys are going to treat them badly Giney tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:03 PM
2

Yeah they should just stop being nice already
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:03 PM
1

Just be a lawful asshole to the fullest extent permissible. That pretty easily resolves your false dilemma
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:02 PM
1

Baffling that "being nice doesn't work" is not leading to the conclusion "stop it"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:02 PM
1

You shouldn't base your beliefs in some childhood behaviour, as people change as they grow up. Define "childhood behavior". In other words, at what age is it your assertion that this "childhood behavior" stops. Early 20s? Something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:55 PM
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You don’t have to choose between being a chump and being a toxic asshole. But if you do have to choose, choose the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:54 PM
2

Nice is boring. But you don't have to stoop to being violent or misogynistic to get laid. Try being clever, funny, or interesting instead. Nobody dreams of meeting Prince Nice Guy or Prince Wifebeater. They want to meet Prince Charming. Not everyone can be clever, funny or interesting, but most people can be an asshole, and there's no reason not to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:52 PM
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Great spread the word stop being nice 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:51 PM
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This dramatic martyrdom on their behalf is exactly what people like you generally criticize as black and white thinking The context and profile of these people matters, No it just matters if they get dick hard. Dick wet by all lawful means available
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:50 PM
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Basically these bad boys are potentially exploiting vulnerable women. If you purely want to rack up numbers as a man, be sober and frequent places where women are intoxicated 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:48 PM
1

Homely Jeremy with the anti social tendencies, cannot rely on his looks and charisma to skate by, he’s gotta cut the asshole shit out and even then yeah he may not succeed but he’s got a better chance. How do you know? Could be the "even then he may not succeed but he's got a better chance" is being an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:47 PM
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Like what
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:45 PM
1

Evolutionarily selected for it because that's how their frail little bodies could survive in the ancestral environment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:27 PM
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Was that their fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:25 PM
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