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Thanks, people are so brainwashed by pick-ups and pill colors, these are like foreign concepts for some. Both. I've just always strived to understand women, and more broadly people. Social skills didn't really come to me naturally. I had to fine tune my instincts and intuition. I learned a lot by dating women and observing their behavior, then reflecting on it and learning from what worked and what didn't. THEN I applied the seduction techniques I studied. Most men get it backwards. They want to…
/r/seduction12/01/21 08:12 AM
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Well put. We have an enitre generation of men that have been culturally conditioned to placate to women for sex and attention. And it doesn't make you look like a gentleman - it makes you look like a loser.
/r/seduction13/12/20 01:05 AM
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Interesting. So what we've demonstrated here is that women are mostly questioning whether or not a guy's interests are actually genuine. Whereas men are mostly questioning whether or not girls are even interested at all lol.
/r/seduction06/12/20 10:04 PM
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Here's a good one: I had to do a group project with the hottest girl in my class. She was strikingly beautiful. Just my type too. I told myself "You have no chance with a girl like that. Don't fuck up this project hitting on her." I could sense a lot of tension and frustration between us during the project, but I couldn't figure out why. After we finished the project, she looks at me and says: "I don't have anymore classes today. I'm probably just going to end up going back to my room alone and …
/r/seduction06/12/20 08:01 PM
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It's because most guys aren't going into dates with the mindset "I got this." They're thinking "She's too pretty for me, she can't be that interested, I'll probably fuck it up." So rather than taking every hint as a positive signal of interest, they sit there and analyze whether it's a signal of interest at all. When I was younger I blew so many chances like this thinking things like "she's too pretty for me, she's probably just being friendly." My dumbass not even equating the fact that we're h…
/r/seduction06/12/20 07:43 PM
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I didn't mean it that literally. I mean it like, in your opinion, what is it about you that you think makes you disinteresting to women? I'm trying to get a better feel for what you're going through. Having standards and rejecting women should raise your value but it isn't everything either.
/r/seduction06/12/20 09:50 AM
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Then you might need to increase your standards for yourself first and foremost. Once you hold yourself to higher standards, you'll tend to hold women to higher standards by default. Why do you feel women are disinterested in you?
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:52 PM
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This is this the exact mentality I'm talking about lol. Your priorities are in the wrong places dude. And I'm both a romantic and a kinkster so that's independent of this.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:49 PM
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I'm a guy and this is the formula I've always used.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:42 PM
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Same here. As the guy I always felt like I was the one setting the rhythm and leading the kiss.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:38 PM
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I disagree with the last sentence. I'm 28 and I'm all about those deep passionate kisses. Feels more intimate. But there's an art to it. And a time and place for everything.
/r/seduction05/12/20 08:36 PM
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Most women have a submissive nature, and there's no shame in that at all because it's very natural and desirable. But many men will mistake that as having some proverbial "upper hand" in a relationship. But rather, women can dominate through their submission just as men can end up submitting through their dominance. In other words, she's gaming you just like you're gaming her. And chances are she's probably more experienced with men than you are with women.
/r/seduction04/12/20 10:07 PM
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The idea isn't to ignore it, but rather to master it and control it so it isn't a "need." Now your sexuality is a resource you can share with others, rather than a bad itch that needs to be scratched.
/r/seduction04/12/20 06:33 PM
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Sex becomes all about ego and you start seeing people as empty bodies. Like OP described - ejaculating, refractory period kicks in, you feel guilty or unfulfilled, and perhaps even ask the girl to leave. It can be very dehumanizing. You know what's even worse? When you think you're being this ice-cold rock-solid player, only to realize that the girl is only playing along and allowing you to think that because she was actually playing you the whole time. The hunter becomes the hunted.
/r/seduction04/12/20 06:29 PM
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This is the root of the problem. Most of the guys around here are so insecure and so worried about "body counts" that they can't even form a genuine connection with a woman. When you're willing to settle and take any girl you can get it makes you look like a low value man because you have no standards. Build yourself as a man, develop some standards, start using them to qualify women, and make them take YOUR shit tests. Then you'll come off like a guy that has value to offer instead of a needy b…
/r/seduction04/12/20 06:19 PM
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This is actually one of the most difficult seduction skills to learn. The simple answer is abundance mindset and outcome independence. You see these terms thrown around here all the time. The issue is that most men are trying to create an imaginary abundance mindset they don't really have, so it comes off fake because they genuinely are very desperate and outcome dependent. The best solution is to develop a real abundance mentality, which comes naturally when you're actually meeting and dating l…
/r/seduction03/12/20 05:41 PM
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This is correct. Most of the advice getting passed around here is just making guys even more confused and awkward, stuck in their head because they become analytical and over-intellectualize everything. Seduction zombies. Seduction is not of the mind it is of the body. You would generate much more success by tapping into your instincts and intuition as a man, rather than filling your head with more technique and theory. Remember, men and women have been seducing each other for millennia, and non…
/r/seduction30/11/20 05:57 PM
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Can confirm. The women that approach me are usually below my "league" so to speak. The girls I'm interested in either put out singals or do nothing at all lol. Have also notcied other men looking at me with a level of resentment/envy. They either look at you like they want to be you, or like you represent something they despise. I'm guilty too. I'll admit that I've looked at another man with contempt because I felt insecure in his presence. Straight up.
/r/seduction30/11/20 05:03 PM
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Test it for yourself and find out. It works.
/r/seduction29/11/20 09:33 PM
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My personal persepctive is actually very similar to yours, so I'm not lumping people together unfairly. Collectively as a culture sex has become less valuable. That's not really an opinion, it's just the current state of culture. Hookup culture and pornography are fueling these changes too. This conversation reminds me of a quote from the movie Fight Club where Marla says: "The condom is the glass slipper of our generation. You meet a stranger, you slip on on, you dance all night, and then you t…
/r/seduction28/11/20 09:30 PM
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Because sex no longer holds the weight that it used to. Casual sex was only emerging in our culture a few decades ago during the free love movement. Before casual sex became acceptable, sex was viewed as a symbol of love and commitment. It's was reserved for very specific people during your lifetime, and it and it held a lot of value because it really represented something special to people. But nowadays I can got to a party and have a rough sex threesome with two girls that are practically stra…
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:31 PM
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The media and corporate America are systemically exploiting sex to promote marketing and consumerism by intentionally keeping people sexually unhealthy, confused, disconnected, and insecure. People are more out of touch with their sexuality than ever before.
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:18 PM
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I think he means that women no longer have any scruples about having lots of casual meaningless sex with many men and other women, which he has been slowly realizing as he probably grew up believing that most women were of higher morality than most men. At least that's what how I interpreted his comment. Sex is mostly certainly losing it's value collectively in our culture.
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:16 PM
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It is really unfortunate for everyone. Men also take heat for casual sex and get stereotyped as players just as women get stereotyped as slutty. And this is only scratching the surface. These days I see both men and women struggling to obtain the sex lives the want. It's part of the reason I post here, I want to unify the sexes so we can all start having fun again. I'm with you, the most attractive women are caring and nurturing, with a little strength and confidence too. There's definitely a ba…
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:06 PM
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As a man I thoroughly enjoy foreplay and have never done it for the sake of a woman. I never understood the idea that women need foreplay but men don't. Sex is literally a need for me to be in a relationship with a woman. If we cannot maintain a satisfying sex life, I will fall out of love with her. When the sex is good, usually everything else is too.
/r/seduction28/11/20 07:35 AM
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It really comes down to the fact that attraction isn't intellectual and it can't be manufactured. The real scam is this philosophy that you can make any girl like you so long as you string together the right combination of techniques and tactics. But that just isn't how attraction works. Naturals know how to spot genuine attraction and nourish it. That's the real secret. Instead of trying to trick girls into liking you, find girls that just actually like you and seduce them.
/r/seduction28/11/20 07:31 AM
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Really the questions we should all be asking ourselves are: What kind of connections am I having? Am I fulfilled? Am I prioritizing my safety? How many people have I been in love with? What have I learned from it? That double standard is never going to disappear (just like the double standarda women impose on men) and hiding your number from guys that ask will just be a red flag to them. Rather, I think it's best to look for people we are compatible with so that these issues cease to exist in ou…
/r/seduction28/11/20 07:25 AM
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What I've come to realize is that men are physical creatures. I would much rather express my affection towards a woman physically. I would much rather connect with her physically. Horniness and intimacy are 100% connected for me. And I've come to recgonize that horniness is often a desire for initmacy for me. I think this is a big misconception between the sexes. Women often need intimacy before sexual connections. And men often need sex before intimate connections.
/r/seduction28/11/20 07:15 AM
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Jealousy isn't the right word, even though there is an element of envy involved. It just comes down to the fact that men and women are fundamentally different, even though nobody wants to accept that. If both of us were to post ads looking for casual sex on a sex personals website, then your inbox would be flooded while I would get somewhere between zero and a few replies. There's literally no comparison here. But there are plenty of other examples we could explore. You know what else doesn't im…
/r/seduction28/11/20 07:05 AM
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I don't want to get into a debate about whether it's right or wrong, but I can explain why a lot of men feel this way. And it's because there's really nothing impressive about a woman who's had a lot of casual sex. If you frequent this sub, then you've probably noticed most men are only getting laid infrequently, if at all. So a man that can bed lots of women is somewhat of an over-achiever because it is not the norm for men. On the otherhand, nobody's impressed by a woman's ability to get laid.…
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:15 AM
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Wanting to have lots of sex isn't a shallow or meaningless goal. It's more so if you're specifically making shallow meaningless sex your goal because that almost always stems from insecurity. I want to have lots of quality sex with quality partners and become the best lover I can possibly be. Who wouldn't want to experience that level of connection with others? But I notice a complete difference in the mindset of people who only look for shallow casual meaningless sex with one time partners, and…
/r/seduction28/11/20 06:03 AM
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Guys, do yourself a favor and internalize this advice.
/r/seduction28/11/20 05:46 AM
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Cold approaching literally says to a woman "I have no options" because guys that are natural don't cold approach. It shows that you lack experience with reading women's attraction signals, body language, and social cues. Cold approach is also essentially negotiating for attraction, which is why most guys end up wasting their time on women that are just toying along with them for attention.
/r/seduction28/11/20 05:39 AM
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You have to flip your perspective. You have to stop saying "I have a low opinion of my personality." And start saying "I'm in the process of developing a stronger personality." Stop thinking of yourself as a loser and start thinking of yourself as a badass-in-progress. And this isn't telling yourself a bunch of bullshit affirmations, to believe it you have to start taking steps to develop the traits you feel you lack.
/r/seduction28/11/20 05:32 AM
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Not questioning your experiences, I just want to add in that I have had positive interactions in these types of locations provided there was some mutual pre-screening between me and the girl. I've also been approached by women before so I've been on the other side. One of the things that guys don't realize is that even if you are attracted to the person, it's really jarring to just instantly put your life on pause and tap into flirting-mode. People aren't always just down to socialize in the mid…
/r/seduction28/11/20 05:27 AM
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It is possible to be a natural without being a social butterfly, but you're playing a different type of game. The universal quality of all naturals is that they have an ability to connect with others in a way that feels authentic. This is why I've never been a fan of game/pick-up. It feels pre-meditated.
/r/seduction28/11/20 05:16 AM
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A big part of confidence is knowing your worth and being able to walk away. Really confident guys don't fear rejection because they have an attitude like "I don't want any girl that doesn't want me." No girl will respect you if she can tell that you don't respect yourself first and foremost.
/r/seduction28/11/20 04:57 AM
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This should be top comment.
/r/seduction26/11/20 12:52 PM
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You do realize that some women are actually flattered to be asked out even if they aren't interested. How can you really assert that she was catering to his feelings? Are you that disingenuine? Do you also realize that if men never took the risks of accidentally making things awkward, women would never get asked out and everyone would just be single? Because if she had said "yes" how would that change your response?
/r/seduction26/11/20 12:51 PM
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Right? If he's a corporate manager that's one thing. But why has it become a crime to say "Would you like to go out for coffee sometime?" to a colleague?
/r/seduction26/11/20 12:25 PM
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I agree with this. If people could just communicate maturely and act like adults this wouldn't even be a problem. But so many people have made it a problem that people are petrified to even flirt with a co-worker. I find it peculiar because desiring connection with another human is like this most natural thing in the world. But nowadays were all so scared of each other that we feel safer hiding behind dating apps.
/r/seduction26/11/20 12:23 PM
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That's my only point. The more boyish/masculine guys have no qualms about having to approach women and the more girly/feminine women have no qualms about being approached. It's mostly people outside of the gender stereotypes that complain about this dynamic.
/r/seduction25/11/20 07:05 PM
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People with nice guy syndrome are so imbalanced that they need to spend time developing their shadow and their darkside. Hedonist and psychopaths have the opposite problem and need to tone down because they walk all over others. The nice guys need to tone up because they're the ones getting walked on.
/r/seduction25/11/20 06:58 PM
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I still don't see what that has to do with anything? Some men like those aggressive/dominant women. You're still really missing the nuance of what I'm saying. My only point was that the people who most often complain that it's a social expectation for men to approach women are mascluinized tomboy types of women and feminized passive nice guys. This literally has nothing to do with your shy friends, fat friends, etc. because it has nothing to do with actually approaching, rather it's about people…
/r/seduction25/11/20 06:48 PM
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I hear you, but you're going to waste a lot of time and opportunity waiting for society to change as a whole. I used to think the same way, but you'll realize as you grow older how valuable your time (especially your yonuger years) really is. It really is up to you to just take action and BE the change and inspire change in others. You'll be surprised how many people will have your back if you take that first step for others. People respect leaders not followers. It's not just about frequency of…
/r/seduction25/11/20 03:18 PM
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While that may be true (not calling you a liar, I've had success with women while watching porn as well) it would also depend on how you or I subjectively define porn addiction. It would also depend on how you or I define "killing it" with women as well. There are plenty of drug addicts that kill it with women, but 98% of drug addicts are pathetic losers people straight up avoid. What do you think these 3 guys have that you or the average guy doesn't? I also find it peculiar that you know the st…
/r/seduction25/11/20 01:23 PM
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OP, you're getting a lot of the standard, optimistic, politically correct advice - and all that stuff is fine. But I'm going to give your the darker bad boy side of the equation because you need both to be balanced. First and foremost, you gotta cut the porn out. Porn is one of main things that makes you give off that creepy-pervert-loser vibe because you share you're sexual intimacy with a cellphone. You don't want to be pussy-whipped by a cellphone. And nobody articulates "that guys's a porn w…
/r/seduction25/11/20 01:14 PM
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Stop treating sexual release like it's a need or an addiction. If you WANT a sexual release, either share it with a woman or relieve yourself using your imagination. There isn't one single guy on the planet that is a natural and kills it with women and is simultaneously porn addicted. If you try to quit but can't, then it's an addcition. Porn makes men feel pathetic, weak, needy, and docile because you turn to a computer screen for your sexual intimacy. You're literally pussy-whipped by a damn c…
/r/seduction25/11/20 12:28 PM
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This is the crux of the advice he really needs to hear. Hell, this is the one piece of advice most guys here really need to grasp and understand. Guys, really internalize the message here.
/r/seduction25/11/20 11:42 AM
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You have to remember that most single women are walking around hoping and dreaming of the day they meet some cool and attractive guy and they connect with each other and he seduces her panties off and they go on countless romantic adventures together. Might as well be you lol.
/r/seduction25/11/20 04:07 AM
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So long as your gun and your marksmanship is better than the other guy's gun and his marksmanship.
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:53 PM
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OP, I would agree with your general thesis. Most of the advice passed around here is borderline pathetic. Most of the men here have no idea what they even have to offer a woman. However, I would also ask you what kind of investment do you have to offer a man? It seems that you characterize your sexuality as your primary investment. To many men, that's honestly not worth much in a hookup culture. There's high risk investments and low risk investments. There's high return investments and low retur…
/r/seduction24/11/20 11:22 PM
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So what? Just because you know outliers or people that don't fit the bill doesn't mean that it's "simply not true" for others. It's a general observation, not a hard set rule that applies to 100% percent of the population. Use some common sense, it's like you aren't even grasping the nuances here.
/r/seduction24/11/20 04:21 PM
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I think the answer would be to spend as much time as possible in the real world focusing on living your life authentically and refining yourself as a product. Just go against the grain by talking to and flirting with the opppsite sex shamelessly. People are dying inside to have a real human connection these days. What's really sad is that people have basically turned to the cell phone for their friendships/social interaction. And now many people turn to the cell phone for relationships and sexua…
/r/seduction24/11/20 10:24 AM
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I didn't say women that struggle with dating, I said men and women that reject this dynamic. I rarely see feminine women complaining that men approach them - conversely, I often see them wishing men approached more. It's usually the masculinized tomboy types that stigmatize men for approaching women, then turn around and claim that there's no good men left. Frankly I avoid these women because their energy is so chaotic and they're so disconnected from their feminine nature. Two masculine entites…
/r/seduction24/11/20 05:31 AM
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Women are aroused by feeling sexually desired by men they're attracted to. Men are aroused by pursuing sexual desire towards women they're attracted to. Men are active. Women are passive. Men wage sexual conquests, women get sexually conquered. CONSENSUALLY. Men fuck. Women get fucked. Giving. Recieving. Penetrator. Penetrated. You'll observe the men and women who complain about this dynamic are almost always passive feminized men and domineering masculinized women. Their lack of sexual polarity…
/r/seduction24/11/20 04:42 AM
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It's funny you mention that because I think of myself as a pretty average guy but I do way better in real life. A lot of girls get super nervous and excited because they aren't used to guys approaching confidently these days. Then on online dating I barely even get matches and the women that message me are way below my league lol.
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:49 PM
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You mean like the girl thinks you're so attractive the you're out of her league? That does happen because I've had girls that I thought were out of my league yet ironically they thought I was out of their league. The bigger issue you'll face is that women will stereotype you as a player if you have good looks or dress well AND have good game.
/r/seduction23/11/20 10:04 PM
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Exactly man, that's what I'm trying to convey to these pitch-only guys. As you improve the product the pitch improves with it. As you get more attractive, healthier, successful, confident, etc. You naturally become more charming or charismatic, espcially if you work on those skills directly. There's no combination of magic words and techniques, it's all conveyed through your energy when you just know you're a good catch.
/r/seduction23/11/20 08:58 PM
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Thanks brother. I don't think of myself as a pick-up artist at all, but rather a lover and seducer of women. I've always strived to understand them better so I can connect with them more deeply and authentically.
/r/seduction23/11/20 06:07 PM
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It's more about refining your personal style and maximizing your looks with it. You don't want to be a rugged outdoorsy guy and dress like a banking executive. Just like you don't want to be a medical doctor dressing like a heavy metal guitar player. But every male archetype has the ability to look slick and well put together when your style is refined and maximized. What I see is that most guys want to appear plain and ordinary to be universally appealing, rather than polarizing a certain type …
/r/seduction23/11/20 05:30 PM
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Those are mighty big words coming from Steve Urkel, player.
/r/seduction23/11/20 04:25 PM
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Most of having "good looks" for men comes down to being healthy and physically fit, carrying strong posture, dressing well, smelling good, having good hygiene, being well groomed, stylish, etc. Then pair that with non-physical traits like eye contact, voice tone, wit, charisma, charm, confidence, masculine polarity, and the ability to comfortably create and hold sexual tension with women. That arsenal of qualities is pretty much a guaranteed reciepe to be above-average as a man. I'd love to see …
/r/seduction23/11/20 04:22 PM
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Honestly I don't think it's so much his game that appeals to women. I think it's more so the fact the he provides them with free drugs and alcohol which culminates in wild uninhibited sex with broken party girls. He's a risk taker. He flirts with cashiers and waitresses because he owns his sexual desire and doesn't give a fuck whether women get offended. He owns the fact that he's a suicidal drug addict. SOME women will see that lack of inhibition as confidence. I'd rather have wild uninhibited …
/r/seduction23/11/20 01:29 PM
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There's really no specific way a woman can attract a guy that every girl wants. If a guy knows every girl wants him, he's going to go after HIS top choices first and probably use that power to date lots of beautiful women. This is a small percentage of guys, and they're so over-validated they can literally end up using hundreds of women for sex during their lifetime. To get random guys to approach you - aside from looking, smelling, and behaving attractively. you need to show guys signals of int…
/r/seduction23/11/20 01:07 PM
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My best girl dookie-ing out her mouth again :) Where are all these deranged men jumping out of alley ways and dumpsters dragging screaming and crying women down to hell with them? This is so absurdly rare, and practically non-existent in the US unless you live in prison or gang-infested environments. Women aren't getting gang-raped in broad daylight walking their dogs downtown, even though the media has done it damnedest to make you think that's a regular daily occurrence. Men literally don't re…
/r/seduction23/11/20 12:45 PM
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This is good advice but you don't have to lie to women about your stingy friend to justify why you're asking her out. Just own the fact that you're attracted to her. No explanation needed. If you approached her and she barely knows you, she knows why you're asking her out.
/r/seduction23/11/20 12:00 PM
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GrandMasterUnhinged! That's my next username! You've read my post history, so you've probably seen that I'm actually a fairly respectful and articulate guy. And while I certainly know many slutty women, I have never called a woman a slut before because I don't judge my peers like that. Matter of fact, I want the women I like to be slutty with me, so I try to create a space where they can safely explore themselves without feeling judged. I actually love and adore femininty. Women are amazing. And…
/r/seduction23/11/20 11:51 AM
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It's honestly the main reason men and women don't get along well and don't trust each other anymore. Everyone goes on a date completely guarded calculating the situation to protect themselves and make sure they aren't the one that's going to get fucked over. It's really tragic that it's come to this.
/r/seduction23/11/20 10:06 AM
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Not sure how this relates to the discussion, but I believe I might be one of those rare personality types as a man. Highly introverted, highly intuitive, high in empathy, etc. And I very much struggle to find women I vibe with emotionally. That being said, I would love to find a woman that's empathetic, hypersexual, interested in philosophy, and owns a BDSM dungeon. Dream girl qualities. So this basically proves your point even from a male's perspective.
/r/seduction23/11/20 10:00 AM
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Why do you live in this black and white world where you can't work on self-development and work on your game too? It really disturbs me that you think self-improvement is only for conventionally attractive people. The payoff of improving your life far transcends picking up women. That statement alone says a lot about your self-image... "Type isn't something you can control." EXACTLY. Because attraction isn't something you can control! Stop thinking that you can control biology. I like petite wom…
/r/seduction23/11/20 09:53 AM
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Practicing self-development, developing your masculinity, and learning to relate to and bond with the opposite sex is not "pitch stuff." These are fundamental life skills you need to become a successful man in life. This is only "pitch stuff" if you're just faking it to get girls. In which case I would advise you to work on your confidence, self-esteem, and self-worth and stop pedestalizing women so much. This isn't "pitch stuff." This is stuff you should already be doing for yourself and your h…
/r/seduction23/11/20 09:35 AM
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I think this is a really weak mindset. What do you think of a person that rushes out to buy an obviously shitty product because they got duped by the marketing and promotion? Because these are the women you'll be dating. And when they eventually figure out that you're a fraudulent product, they'll want to return you and get their investment back. Really think about what you're saying here. Quality is subjective but I'm really thrown off by your statement "marketing traits are percieved to make a…
/r/seduction23/11/20 09:14 AM
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It really is the key concept men are overlooking. Game is like 10% of seduction. The other 90% is self-improvement, confidence, authenticity, actually talking to women, trusting your instincts and intuition as a man, facing your fears, and doing general hot guy shit that's attractive to women.
/r/seduction23/11/20 09:01 AM
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Actually, I completely disagree with this. Working on the pitch only really helps you in real world scenarios where you're actually interacting with women. The guys that kill it with online dating are the ones that can convey value or attractive qualities through a picture or a bio, hence proving my point it's about the product not the pitch. The pick up community has spent decades trying to sell men the illusion that you can look like Ron Jeremy and be rolling in bitches just because you have s…
/r/seduction23/11/20 08:55 AM
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The dating world is filled with broken people breaking other people. Every player has an origin story of getting played by someone else.
/r/seduction22/11/20 08:39 AM
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Keeper of the keys of toxic masculinity! I love it! Write a book about that one you fem-troll slob. It's so easy to make shit up. Your shit just transcends the whole retardation scale. I never "came at you" bro. Some other guy called you out on your bullshit, and I told him you were a fem-troll and to disregard your bullshit. Everything beyond that was general commentary, but you took it as a personal insult because you saw yourself reflected in it. And you've been on some nonsensical "women are…
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:44 AM
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Ideally you want to do the work to level yourself up and learn some game, then you have both. With only game, you're still just negotiating attraction. If your only ambition in life is getting pussy, it's not the worst strategy, but it's not so cut and dry either. Most of those guys just end up being losers drowning in debt, problems, depression, and addiction. I have a friend like this that nearly just died from an overdose the other day. And the pussy he gets definitely isn't quality man.
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:32 AM
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Most definitely. I've blown so many opportunities by not taking that chance. So many guys reject themselves before they even give the girl a chance to reject them. As my mentor says: "As a man you have to just get comfortable with the fact that you have a dick and balls between your legs and you're willing to offend if needed. If you don't ask for what you want, then you'll be disappointed with what you get."
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:24 AM
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Dude I'm a lover and a Dom, I can't just break down an entire seduction in a step-by-step process or something. Can you ask a more specific question? How do you define "setting the mood?"
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:18 AM
0

I know you're not a lady, I've talked to you so damn much on here that I inferred that a long time ago lol. You're hilarious though. I love being the proverbial toxic thorn in your little fem-troll side. I'm a writer and I can't even make up the fem-rage dribble you write. It's comedy gold! I love that you think I'm trying to impress you with my "alpha display." Thank you JetPillar, I haven't laughed like that all day. Keep reading my post history, you know you adore me!
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:12 AM
1

There's no dead set formula to this, you gotta find your style. I'll even switch it up based on what kind of chemistry I share with the girl.
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:01 AM
7

I don't get this mindset. It's like you're saying "I'm a low value guy, but I have great game." If you're going to invest in a skillset, why not invest in yourself as a product rather than your pitch as a salesman? I'd rather just be the most attractive and seductive man I can be, rather then a guy with really great game. Your achievements in life speak for themselves. I'm broke, anxious, and worried about life but still can get choosing signals even in a world-wide pandemic. Honestly just being…
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:59 AM
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For women it's do the self-improvement work, act like a fucking lady, and make yourself approachable to men. Unfortunately we're living in these weird backwards times where men and women are more suspicious of each other than ever before. People are afraid to own their sexuality, afraid to convey attraction, afraid of sexual tension and polarity, afraid of rejection, afraid of social interaction, and totally misguided by internet/media. And all of that makes for a shitty product, so people keep …
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:47 AM
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Most women will give off a vibe that they want more with you than conversation if they're interested anyway. The biggest lesson here is that there is no certified fool-proof way to mitigate rejection or the risk of being offensive. Honestly if you're doing the self-development work, then you should have the attitude that if she blows this opportunity it's her loss anyway. But hell, she probably wants to fuck somebody, might as well be you. If she rejects you, you still have like millions of othe…
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:39 AM
3

Most of the guys here simply do not understand women, and their brains are so polluted with pick-up books, pill colors, animal social hierarchy, etc. that they can hardly even have an interaction with a woman without coming off like they've rehearsed a pre-meditated performance. You gotta embrace your strengths. I'm not the most playful guy either. I'm more like the strong, silent, present type. But I can get playful once I warm up to a woman. It takes time to build chemistry, attraction, polari…
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:32 AM
0

God, you've gotten even crazier haven't you? Do you need me to call the doctor for you, darling? I don't want to see you lose your last shred of sanity. And you should tone it down a bit. Now I'm not the type of man to tell a lady (I use the term loosely) how to dress, but your vitcim complex is clearly showing. You should know me well enough by now to know that I'm not entertaining your silly nonsensical debates. You just spew overly-emotional hyper-radical feminist gibberish that never makes a…
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:20 AM
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It's not a be all end all necessity. I'm a hardcore introvert, so that side of my personality only tends to come out once I've warmed up to a girl. But if you can make her feel like a little girl in a fun way then you're golden. The internet has people too wrapped up in game, dating is supposed to be fun.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:57 AM
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Get out of your head and trust your instincts and intuition. There is no blueprint to seduction. Rejection is always a possibility.
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:21 AM
0

You really live for this shit don't you? Lol I never forgot: "Women can say SLUT but men can't, just like black people can say nygga but white people can't." This is by far my most favorite thing I've ever read on the entire internet for the sheer retardation factor alone. And I'm giving you full credit, girl. It's a real gem. It always puts a smile on my face, so I gotta give you props for that one. I hope you're doing well and fighting the good fight of putting all of us privileged and entitle…
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:39 AM
0

I don't let those experiences cloud my views on all women! In fact, I partially blame myself for not having the self-confidence to address that crap and walk away from those women at the time. But I've learned from those lessons. I think many women these days often lack social skills you would think would be a given. Perhaps that is the result of their pedestalization? I commend you for speaking out against reverse sexism. I can't really do that as a guy, because I will be immediately shunned an…
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:25 AM
1

What's NOT sad about women using a dating website to solicit their homemade pornography or straight up prostitution? That's almost as sad as it gets. Do you respect a woman like that?
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:51 AM
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Not all of them
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:49 AM
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Basically. If you do the self-improvement work, act like a fucking man, and talk to women, the rest pretty much works itself out. But men are so stuck in their heads overanalyzing game and pick-up they completely miss the entire foundation of seduction. Quit trying to scam women and just make yourself a quality option, it's that simple.
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:48 AM
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That woman is a psycho-femininazi. She argued with me for days lecturing me about how men are forbidden to say the word "slut" because only women have the right to say that word. She literally wants to suppress men's freedom of speech. Not people's, MEN'S. Of course, because feminism, it's totally acceptable for a woman to have open relationships, threesomes, group sex, whatever she pleases, no judgement allowed. But as soon as a man says "I'd like to explore my sexuality and sleep around" and y…
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:19 AM
1

Oh I agree with you, it's absolutely tragic. I think it's so terrible that so many men have never had a relationship with a woman that was really into them. Like "I'm-so-excited-tear-off-my-clothes" into them. I think everyone should experience that level of mutual attraction with someone. I believe people would be much happier if they had these connections! It's a travesty that so few people know what a healthy relationship looks like anymore. I think the majority of women would rather not be p…
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:03 AM
1

It's extremely common for girls to use dating apps to promote their onlyfans accounts and their social media platforms. I've even seen women on dating apps soliciting prostitution. It's sad.
/r/seduction22/11/20 02:29 AM
1

It sounds like you want to be a player but you're scared to leave your current partner.
/r/seduction22/11/20 02:26 AM
1

Probably. Every girl and her grandmother is trying to make a career out of being a cam girl, amateur pornstar, nude model, or social media influencer. It's like "wow, another girl that monetizes her nudity and sexuality over the internet. Yawn." This may sound weird, but once upon a time, getting to see a girl naked was a rare occurrence and it made you feel special for getting that from her because that wasn't for every guy to see. Now I pretty much assume a girl has a catalog of nudes on her h…
/r/seduction22/11/20 02:12 AM
2

Ethan?
/r/seduction22/11/20 01:35 AM
2

I hear you dude. I like metalhead girls too - and they were pretty rare even before the pandemic. I'm giving online dating a shot because of the pandemic, but I'd honestly rather just approach. Real life seduction is so much easier.
/r/seduction22/11/20 01:03 AM
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The fact that you only want to date women 10+ years older than you before the age of 26 is what makes it strange. If you had just said "I prefer older women" I wouldn't have asked. I'm intrigued by the significance of the numerical preferences.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:57 AM
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Most men put all of their focus on the pitch, so the product doesn't sell because the product sucks. Most people are aware of it when a salesman is hyping up a lame product, because a quality product isn't a hard sell. Quality products sell themselves.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:53 AM
1

Trust your instincts, Luke.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:38 AM
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Guys that are really anti-seductive are the men that a overly nice and submissive towards women. They think by being as harmless and well-behaved as possible they'll make the woman extremely comfortable. They're always 100% gentlemanly and dissolve all the sexual tension. This is a killer strategy if you're trying to be her gay girlfriend, because women don't value these qualities in men they want to sleep with. Seductive guys assume the dominant role and lead the interaction. They're more focus…
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:32 AM
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If you start putting on a performance it will seem really out of character. It's best to find a way to do this that feels natrual and authentic to you. You want to make it feel like you're a little boy teasing a little girl on the play ground. Sexual tension, polarity, and attraction are supposed to be uninhibited and instinctual. This comes from getting in touch with your inner child. You can't learn this through game.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:22 AM
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You're pedestalizing women. You pedestalize them so much that you literally give them special treatment at your own expense. It's not natural for a man to be subservient to women like this. You've been socially conditioned to behave this way. The cure is to develop stronger self esteem and get deeper in touch with your masculinity.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:10 AM
2

May I ask why her being 10 years older than you is a requirement? That's an uncommon preference.
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:04 AM
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They rationalize that they avoid hurting the guys feelings because they aren't directly rejecting him. They think he'll just take a hint and leave her alone. Really this just pisses men off because it's insensitive (sensitivity is a feminine trait), and men blame themselves thinking they did something wrong. Feminism has also sufficiently scared women shitless, so they have a constant fear that if they reject a guy, he'll go psycho on them. While this can and does occasionally happen, this is mo…
/r/seduction22/11/20 12:01 AM
1

Dude you're an average guy, stop calling yourself ugly. You have a small window of time in your life where you will be surrounded by horny teenage girls that want to date cool boys. Don"t waste it.
/r/seduction21/11/20 11:45 PM
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It's because most of the men that post here have never dealt with a woman that had high interest in them before, and that's a tough pill for most men to swallow. All their lives they've been guilt-tripped and pussified by a feminist society and taught to pedestalize women. They think it's completely normal for women to be flakely, ignore their texts, ghosting, playing hard to get, etc. They think it's normal because it's all they've ever known. But the reality is that women rarely pull back and …
/r/seduction21/11/20 11:39 PM
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Own it but you don't have to spill your guts out. It's okay to talk to multiple girls. It's okay to keep your options open. Just because a woman decides she's ready for a relationship, it doesn't mean you have to give her one if you don't want to. But it's also not cool to deliberately lead them on either. If they ask just tell them you're down to keep seeing them but you aren't ready for anything exclusive yet, if that's the truth. If she leaves, she leaves. For some reason there's this weird d…
/r/seduction21/11/20 11:06 PM
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That is one of the best ways to approach women because you genuinely have a shared interest to start a conversation about. You have a much higher chance of making a genuine connection than "Hey I saw you from over there, you're like the 50th girl I've approached today, but I was just so stuck by your beauty I just had to come say hi."
/r/seduction21/11/20 09:17 PM
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Only mess with women that have high interest in you. If you chase women that demonstrate low interest, it says a lot about how you value yourself. Not all women deserve your time or attention.
/r/seduction21/11/20 09:11 PM
3

I have a friend that I have witnessed do this before. Never do this. Every woman in the venue sees this happening and it's pathetic. Even I as a man was creeped out by this behavior, because you can see all the women closing themselves off, yet he just keep machine gun approaching through them. Moral of the story is only approach the girls you like. But have fun talking to women in general. I only really approach girls that show mutual interest, but I'm happy to flirt or joke around with just ab…
/r/seduction21/11/20 07:18 PM
3

Absolutely. When I was younger I used to hang out with and even date many feminist-type women, and I had a tomboy for a mother. So needless to say, I internalized this stuff from a young age. The irony is that even the self-proclaimed feminists women aren't actually attracted to overly-cautious socially-avoidiant men that hide their masculinity, despite claiming they want more feminized men... I think what might be happening with some of these guys is that they look lustfully at women that don't…
/r/seduction17/11/20 12:57 PM
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It sounds to me like they raised you well. You started being honest with yourself which then gave you the confidence to be honest with your parents too. And that led to being honest with the girl. So many people struggle with being transparent with themselves and others because they didn't have such a support system growing up. Many young people grow up in environments where they are essentially judged and punished for their honesty, so they end up hiding and closing themselves off to the world.…
/r/seduction16/11/20 11:42 AM
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You have cool parents. Appreciate them and enjoy yourself. And remember to practice safe sex.
/r/seduction16/11/20 07:53 AM
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OP, this is solid advice. Don't listen to all the cynics roasting you in the comments. This generation of men is so brainwashed by feminism, hollywood, and god knows what else, they don't even have the social awareness to realize that if a woman doesn't like you she will avoid making eye contact with you, close herself off, and reject you through her body language. If a woman looks uncomfortable, stop looking at her. If she looks back at you nervously, warmly, playfully, or lustfully, those are …
/r/seduction16/11/20 07:43 AM
2

I agree. But tell this to all the guys in the comments insisting that's it's creepy and socially incorrect to look people, particularly attractive women, in the eyes.
/r/seduction16/11/20 07:36 AM
2

Keyword here is "seems." Many of these types of people learn from a young age to portray a fake security that appears confident, but many of these people have an extremely low self image, which is why they've put so much effort into portraying an image. Even some of the women that are objectively gorgeous are often insecure about their looks or other aspects of their life too. As you get older you get better at seeing through people and picking up on these nuances. Trust me, most people aren't a…
/r/seduction13/11/20 04:05 PM
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I used to think I was the only guy in the world thay got roasted by his mom every day... I actually think this mom-behavior is a common origin story for boys to grow up with low self-esteem or become nice guys and people pleasers. Remember that your mother is you main model for femininty while growing up. So your main model for femininty is constantly telling you things that make you feel inferior. So that eventually becomes your default self-image. Naturally, you don't want to feel inferior, yo…
/r/seduction13/11/20 03:51 PM
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Between mask mandates, social distancing, and metoo, I need hard choosing signals to approach right now. Even in a pandemic I have no problem appraoching in places like grocery stores so long as it's warranted.
/r/seduction13/11/20 01:47 PM
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I'm 28 and I miss that way of life as well. Social media was just starting to take over when I was in high school. Things were getting weird then but it was still pretty normal. Nothing like it is today. People didn't have a paralyzing fear of social interaction.
/r/seduction13/11/20 01:43 PM
1

You approach women at the gym the same way you appraoch women anywhere else on the planet. Either you pick up on their choosing singals/signs of interest or you demonstrate your choosing signals/signs of interest to them. Think of it as matching in real life.
/r/seduction13/11/20 01:31 PM
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Now that you mention it, I should also mention that negative actions or a lack of action can destroy your confidence as well. Positive actions will help it grow and develop, while violating your personal code of conduct or doing things that make you ashamed of yourself will wreck your confidence. This is why we have a society full of people crippled by a sense of shame they're eagerly trying to justify. It's the antithesis of a humble confidence and leads to self betrayl.
/r/seduction13/11/20 01:14 PM
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Confidence doesn't work this. There's a reason this forum is filled with "fake it til you make it" people that are probably worse off than they were before they started. Confidence comes from security within your unique qualities and abilities. You can't get confidence by faking it or copying other people. You can take inspiration from others and put a unique twist on it and make it your own, but you want the majority of your confidence to come from within. The crucial step nobody talks about an…
/r/seduction13/11/20 06:07 AM
1

This is not confidence, this is manipulation through withdrawing communication and playing psychological mind games..."playing hard to get" (aka pretending to be abundant). This stuff only works on desperate little boys. You're setting OP up for failure because confident men understand the difference between a unconfident woman "playing hard to get" versus a woman that truly lives a lifestyle of abundance and has limited time. If anything "playing hard to get" conveys weakness and lack of confid…
/r/seduction13/11/20 05:49 AM
1

I don't seek out confirmation bias, comments like this ARE confirmation. Never once suggested that women don't have prefrontal cortexes. This planet is filled with women with highly developed prefrontal cortexes! However, I enjoyed your assertion that psychologists are just a bunch of "egotisical white men," as if being white, male, or egotistical somehow invalidates scientific research or psychological discovery. Do I need to write the "why men date abusive bad girls post" to scratch your equal…
/r/seduction13/11/20 02:22 AM
1

Because that data completely invalidates the whole "men are inherently toxic and oppressive, women are born victims, gender doesn't exist, let's pretend like men and women are the same" agenda modern society fetishizes so much. Radical feminism can't thrive with data like that.
/r/seduction12/11/20 11:24 AM
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Most of the men that post here are so entranced with the colors of pills and animal social hierarchy that this message will probably blow right past them, but I think you've highlighted an unfortunate reality with the "good boys" and the "nice guys." It's not so much that they're judgmental towards women's preferences, it's more so that they're frustrated that they aren't a woman's preference. And it stems from the scarcity mindset. They resent the fact that these women went out and had fun with…
/r/seduction12/11/20 10:45 AM
2

I've often said to other friends that I would rather date a bitchy/slutty woman that's in touch with her femininity than a "strong and independent" tomboy or a sex appeal-less "nice girl." However, I also have the objectivity to recognize women with toxic behavioral patterns and avoid getting involved. Some works of art should be admired from a distance.
/r/seduction12/11/20 10:26 AM
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It's detrimental because she can sense you are hiding something. You aren't trustworthy because nobody is that nice and perfect unless they want to get something from you. You aren't doing this on purpose, but rather most men are disconnected from their masculinity and have not integrated their shadow. And that disconnection with their primal instincts often leads to the weird self-destructive or toxic behaviors that turn women off to nice guys. Whether this causes low self esteem or is a result…
/r/seduction12/11/20 10:08 AM
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A few reasons: Psychology is complex. Many people who have traumatic/abusive experiences/childhoods tend to end up seeking out people with these qualities as well. Many of these women have daddy issues, or grew up having poor early experiences with males. Their models for healthy masculinity are low. Some women like this end up dating abusive men, some go full radical feminist. It depends on how the individual processes the trauma and copes with it. They overlook the abusive qualities in favor o…
/r/seduction12/11/20 09:43 AM
2

Absolutely. I spent so much time hiding when I was younger that it would have ultimately been so much easier to just face social/romantic/parental rejection head on than to maintain the illusions I was creating. Hiding my truth killed my confidence. Girls would rather have a guy they know is real. Even people that dislike you will have more respect for you if you're real. Tell the truth. The key is to never ever do anything you're ashamed of or that violates your personal code of conduct. If you…
/r/seduction12/11/20 03:14 AM
1

A lot of strange advice being thrown around on this post comment section. Very few people are naturally funny in a way that's also entertaining. Most of those "funny guys" have a social funny bone that stems from a deep unhappiness/unfulfillment with life/themselves. There's a reason most comic genuises are also depressed addicts. Humor should only be one small facet of your personality. Women would rather have a fun guy than a funny guy. You can be fun without being a jokester.
/r/seduction11/11/20 11:12 PM
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Right on man. I don't see too many other men with this mindset. And that's the unfortunate thing about the PUA business - it takes serious dedication, sacrifice, and honest self-reflection to develop that level of self knowledge and mindset. Most guys are so stuck in the ego they'll probably never get there. It's not exactly a formula you can package together and mass market. It's really sad because ultimately most guys realize either consciously or subconsciously that they are unattractive to w…
/r/seduction10/11/20 05:54 PM
3

Not all interactions with women have to result in dating, sex, or relationships. Just sharing a brief moment of subtle desire with a woman can be a sensual experience.
/r/seduction10/11/20 05:29 PM
2

You're 100% correct. There are some diamonds and nuggets hidden in the rough called "game." But even as a teenager I knew the PUA game was nonsense. And you can't even blame guys for falling into it because the marketing is strong. But there's a reason they're called "pick up artists"...that's the gimmick. Any guy can learn to pick a woman up for the night. Keeping them around is a whole different game.
/r/seduction10/11/20 04:23 PM
2

Exactly. If you can master this, you will actually BE a seductive man, rather than just appearing like one through seduction techniques. And those are the types of interactions women are craving, not some tactical PUA nonsense.
/r/seduction10/11/20 02:00 PM
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It's refreshing to see fellow men and women interacting with each other like normal men and women are supposed to, isn't it?
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:54 PM
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When I look back on the girls from my past where things fizzled out quickly, it is almost always because I was being inauthentic, we lacked sexual polarity, or one of us was dissolving the sexual tension instead of feeding it. I'd say you've highlighted thr top 3 reasons guys friendzone themselves. Reason number 4 is self-rejection. Let the girl reject you. Don't put her on a pedestal and create some narrative about how she's too good for you and you don't stand a chance with her. Let her make t…
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:50 PM
2

See my response to the other guy that asked, I break down what I did to reintegrate this instinct in my life.
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:31 PM
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Get a journal and starting brainstorming what you personally feel it would take for you to feel more confident in yourself. Write it all down and describe it in detail. Now you have a blueprint to start taking action. Begin making the changes you described to build that confidence organically. Use your journal to track your progress. Don't do this for women, do it for every aspect of your life. It is up to you to mold yourself into the man you've always wanted to be. Girls like guys that are com…
/r/seduction09/11/20 10:28 PM
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The advice itself is great, but it's insane that this isn't instinctual anymore. A few decades ago everyone knew to do this. And the main reason it isn't obivious to people anymore is because we live in such a politically correct squeakly clean society that most men feel deeply uncomfortable showing their sexuality to the world now. But the reality is that humans are merely smart animals, and dating is essentially human mating rituals. There's no way to effectively convey your sexual intentions …
/r/seduction09/11/20 10:21 PM
15

This is totally accurate but the sad reality is that most men need books, classes, coaching, and seminars just to learn these simple lessons of "don't be a simp and have some self esteem." The fact that boys don't realize this either instinctively or because their father's didn't teach them is absolutely shocking.
/r/seduction18/10/20 12:01 AM
1

Think of it this way: Say you're talking to a woman with really good girl-game, but she's fat, unattractive, and has a displeasing personality. Would marketing and promotion make any difference in your attraction level towards her? Because I don't really care how well a girl like that can market herself, I'm just going to go talk to a girl I'm genuinely attracted to. She puts all the effort into marketing and promotion because she knows she's essentially unattractive. Game is good but most men j…
/r/seduction09/10/20 03:29 AM
11

Following your instincts is extremely liberating. -That line pretty much sums up the crux of most of the dating advice I give other men. In todays backwards PC world, just trusting your instincts and intuition as a man and confidently and freely expressing your masculinity can go pretty far with women.
/r/seduction07/10/20 06:16 PM
1

This is literally the definition of the kind of stuff that repulses women...
/r/seduction04/10/20 10:58 AM
2

I think the moral of the story is that he could've had the relationship he wanted with a beautiful girl he liked years ago had he just had the self-confidence to go after what he wanted, instead of dicking around for years creating self-sabotaging narratives about how she's too good for him. In this case the alcohol was somehow a wake up call for OP. If you can just be the man you want to be while sober, girls will respect you infinitely more for it.
/r/seduction02/10/20 05:59 PM
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"fatphobic" LOL
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:40 AM
1

It's honestly one of the most empowering things a man can do for himself, to cultivate his masculine energy for himself and polarize feminine women with it.
/r/seduction25/08/20 07:14 PM
1

Finally, some else around here other than myself is actually talking about the necessity of masculine polarity.
/r/seduction25/08/20 06:18 AM
2

So, this is how an immature, engaged, high school dumbass, with no car, no job, and no money trims the hedges. That was like eight burns in one sentence... If you're in good physical shape and have looks down you could work on building your wardrobe, work on your style, work on your charisma, work on your vibe, work on your personality, work on your humor, work on your presence, there's so many options. Attraction and seduction is so much more than looks. Journal about your ideal life, your idea…
/r/seduction24/08/20 07:25 AM
2

So here's the big secret no man on the planet (or at least in seduction) seems to realize. Guys can reject women too. If you talk to a woman, and the only thing you like about her is her looks, let her go. It's okay to qualify women on more than looks, it's called having standards. And it will make it seem more like you are both trying to figure out if you're a good fit for each other, rather than you trying to prove to a girl why you're a good fit for her.
/r/seduction22/08/20 09:38 PM
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Obesity in men really screws up male hormones and sex drive, as does sugar and all the junk he's putting in his body that's making him fat. He literally lacks the physical stamina it takes to have sex. When I was fat it was harder to get aroused and I fatigued quickly. Now I'm fit, eat a natural diet, and maintain low body fat, and I'm constantly horny.
/r/seduction22/08/20 06:29 AM
7

You're spot on here - it's changing both gender's expectations.
/r/seduction22/08/20 05:49 AM
1

What I really want to empathize is that I never said the parents were doing this consciously or maliciously. We all do this to others and most of us are simply doing it inadvertently. If you get my point, then I don't know what there is to disagree about? I never suggested that we should undermine the parent's judgement. My only argument was that we shouldn't undermine the feelings of the teenagers either. I really want to drive the point to the young man that posted this the he has not done any…
/r/seduction21/08/20 06:47 PM
1

Your entire obnoxious rant just proves my point. You're just an angry bitter incel that doesn't understand women. Enjoy your misery.
/r/seduction21/08/20 06:16 PM
1

You're probably like me, a perfectionist. This mindset can really take a toll on you. But realize people aren't defining you by your lack of achievement, nor are they defining you by your achievement. Maybe your parents, but not girls you barely know. The real question is, how are you defining yourself? Don't waste time on girls that don't like you. Rather go for girls that really like you that you also really like, and go fucking ham with them. That's real attraction. I don't know about you, bu…
/r/seduction20/08/20 04:26 PM
2

I gotcha man. I was just throwing that out as a cheat code since you said you were trying to accumulate experience. It's a boss move. You'll stand out in contrast with a society full of grown ass men that follow little girls around on the internet.
/r/seduction20/08/20 04:15 PM
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I understand this concern, and I'm not sure if you are male or female, but you must understand that this is very real. And I wish someone warned me when I was his age. I'm not tellimg OP he is a victim. You are still missing the point there. And it's not the parents, it's SOCIETY. What I'm trying to tell him is that he will be facing stuff like this for the rest of his life. Parents will fear for their daughters safety around him. Girls will assume he wants to sleep with him. Some women will fin…
/r/seduction20/08/20 04:09 PM
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This is kind of an advanced move, but I would suggest meeting girls in real life, or even online dating, and then NOT following their social media. You'll probably want to follow a serious girlfriend, but I usually don't bother with a girl I'm seeing casually. Guys who get a lot of women don't tend to follow women's social media. They don't need to because they're actually with them in real life. Plus women use social media for social proof. She wants you to notice all the attention she gets fro…
/r/seduction20/08/20 03:44 PM
1

You're still missing the point. What I was telling OP was that as a man he will be screened like this for the rest of his life. Certain people will define him as dangerous because of his masculinity and his sexuality, without even getting to know him. No matter how good of a person he is, people will assume that he is potentially capable of sexually abusing women simply because he is male. This is why you immediately related this conversation to rape, sexual abuse, and smart parenting. Becuase w…
/r/seduction20/08/20 02:39 PM
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This girl will grow up traumatized and sexually repressed since her violent and narcissistic gang banger brother "fucked up" all her boyfriends.
/r/seduction20/08/20 12:29 PM
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You literally said this exact quote: "if they’re protective of them can you really go ahead and be mad about it?" When I say I get it 100% percent I mean that despite everything I said I would STILL be overprotective of my daughter and screen boys like this as well. Quit projecting your nonsense onto my words. And yes, I watched my female friends get abused by their parents for dating as a teenager. I heard stories from others. This issue affects the girls as well as the boys. At no point did OP…
/r/seduction20/08/20 12:10 PM
0

Sexual tension.
/r/seduction20/08/20 11:17 AM
1

You've actually achieved a lot for your age. Of course you feel inferior if you compare yourself to psychology and law students, but you aren't considering all the people your age that work at Rite Aid or MacDonalds and never even went to college. All the people your age that are buried in debt or addicted to drugs. You have a lot going for you. And really, girls don't care about these things that much of you're just dating casually. But the best thing you can do is simply own it. Girls don't re…
/r/seduction20/08/20 09:24 AM
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I would agree with this, but OP said he overcame his suppression and now he's sharing too much, so that seemed like the bigger problem he wants help with. But I also think we need more information to get a deeper understanding of OP's personality. I was one of those suppressed guys too, and ironically that advice helped me. I felt more confident speaking because I knew my words had impact. I stopped stumbling and stuttering and spoke with conviction. I used to fight my suppression by trying to p…
/r/seduction20/08/20 09:15 AM
1

Well this guy said he is over disclosing everything, so I figured he needs to tone it down some. He's probably dumping his life story on girl's he barely knows which is really off putting. I'm also introverted and high in empathy so this strong silent mysterious stuff works with that personality type. But it isn't supposed to be artificial, it's more like cutting out the unnecessary fluff and blabber from your speech and delivering the important points with a stronger impact. For me it's actuall…
/r/seduction20/08/20 07:21 AM
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Stop dude. At what point did I say I was mad at the parents? I'm old enough to have a daughter, so I totally get it 100%. I've also been a teenage boy and I remember dealing with these types of situations. I've also witnessed parents like this basically abuse their daughters for having a sexuality. This also a "male problem" that isn't discussed or acknowledged very much, which is the way that young men's masculinity and sexuality is villainized. There's a lot of layers to this issue and I'm emp…
/r/seduction20/08/20 06:52 AM
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Welcome to manhood dude. Get used to your masculinity and your sexuality being villainized. All that "male privilege" those feminists think we have? You're getting a taste of it. Many parents are prejudiced towards teenage boys. EDIT: Discussing male issues and teenage boy issues does not undermine female issues, nor parental preferences, for those that seem to need it spelled out in writing. I honestly thought that was a given, but I forgot it's 2020. Note that these issues affect the teenage g…
/r/seduction20/08/20 05:45 AM
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For playfulness, just goof up every once and a while. Kid around with her like you did when you were a little boy teasing a little girl. Dating is supposed to be fun, but most people are really uptight and take it too seriously. I like comedy so I can't help sprinkling jokes in regardless of how intellectual the conversation gets. Just relax, don't get too uptight or too serious. Always remain in your masculine energy. Sexual tension is so abstract you have endless options. Most guys are really …
/r/seduction20/08/20 05:23 AM
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Get comfortable with silence and learn to speak decisively and deliberately with conviction. Most people love to hear themselves talk, instead your words will hold substance and you'll be seen as one of those people that doesn't speak a lot, but when you do it's heavy and purposeful.
/r/seduction20/08/20 05:02 AM
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Intellectual introvert here. Here's what you need to know: Do NOT keep it intellectual 100% of the time. You will wear girls out and scare them off. DO have intellectual conversations but mix in a light hearted playful vibe, empathy, masculine energy, and sexual tension. This combo is fierce and gives you the balance you need to go from boring and brainy to intelligent and mysterious.
/r/seduction20/08/20 04:57 AM
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This is incomprehensible.
/r/seduction20/08/20 03:55 AM
1

So you're just another one of those defeated "women only care about looks" guys. You're never going to get any positive attention from women with your bitterly unattractive attitude. Women are repelled by men that talk like you do. There is a real message here, but it's nuanced. And it's soaring over your head while you drown in your own cesspool of negative bullshit.
/r/seduction18/08/20 05:32 PM
1

Creepy is usually the result of one or all of these three things: Flirting with someone where there's no mutual attraction. One party having a significant higher level of attraction/investment than the other. One party hiding their attraction from the other party, so their actions mismatch their intentions. You'll also notice that these three behaviors are generally needy and unattractive in and of themselves. Look up my comprehensive guide on here called: "This is how you stop creeping women ou…
/r/seduction17/08/20 08:09 PM
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You're missing the message....
/r/seduction17/08/20 07:39 PM
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That's part of it because people will give you a lot of flak these days for talking about these things openly. For the people that choose to believe gender doesn't exists - everything you're saying invalidates that supposition. So it's an issue a lot of people have polarizing opinions on. A lot of people will contend that it's a positive thing that men are becoming feminized and women are becoming masculinized. Coincidentally, these are also often the people that read key words, get mad, and com…
/r/seduction16/08/20 05:46 PM
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You don't need to sleep around or play texting games to land a good guy. That kind of behaviour is more likely to attract the lower vibrational guys that don't want relationships anyway. Chances are you probably aren't dating guys that are actually looking for relationships. As a guy I can tell you there's a trend right now where men are becoming less relationship focused and more noncommittal. There are a lot of influencers right now telling guys that this is the way to go if you want to date a…
/r/seduction16/08/20 05:26 PM
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Disagree with number 2. As a man you can show women YOUR choosing singals and indicators of interest. This is actually a higher value move than the 99% of men that prefer cold appraoch or panhandle for pussy.
/r/seduction16/08/20 04:37 PM
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This will fly over most people's heads in today's cultural climate, but there's a lot of truth to this. We're living in a society full of feminized men and masculinzed women, and if you take just take a hard look around you can see the detrimental impact it's having on health, culture, and society.
/r/seduction16/08/20 03:55 PM
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Girls are used to guys making it easy for them so they like a challenge. Guys are used to girls making it challenging for them so they like it easy.
/r/seduction15/08/20 11:59 PM
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I love short girls and I don't have this problem at all. I usually caress their cheek, tilt their chin up, tilt her head back, whatever feels natural. Gently move her into position, it's a boss move and girls genuinely seem to enjoy the boldness of it.
/r/seduction15/08/20 11:53 PM
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It's more so that working on yourself brings you a natural confidence and fulfillment in life where you can genuinely believe that you are enough as is because you've built yourself into a man you can be proud of. This vibe is attractive and contagious and can draw people towards you or at very least gives you the freedom to talk to others without really caring about any outcome. That's what people really mean when they say "just work on yourself and girls will come to you."
/r/seduction15/08/20 11:44 PM
1

With women it's more about the vibe and energy behind how you say it than what you actually say.
/r/seduction15/08/20 10:16 PM
9

I feel bad for this generation of children raised by the internet...
/r/seduction15/08/20 09:26 PM
1

It does convey a masculine archetype to a degree, but even more so it's probably because it's a "uniform" of sort. It makes it look like you're doing fun and attractive shit with your life.
/r/seduction15/08/20 09:24 PM
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I know man, and that's also the hardest area for me to give advice in because I'm a very introverted guy and I keep a small social circle. You will have to get comfortable meeting women alone. Can you sense when a woman is attracted to you? You can be looking out for choosing signals and indicators of interests. They are signs that a girl is interested in meeting you. Once you get pretty fit, groom well, dress well, and build up your confidence and charisma, you will have women checking you out …
/r/seduction15/08/20 09:20 PM
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I know it isn't really the answer you want to hear but most of it comes from experience interacting with women. Just reflect on your experiences with women and learn as you go. It is important to become comfortable and confident in yourself as a man so you feel seductive and attractive. Trust your instincts and intuition as a man. I know this is all very vague but it should resonate more once you start racking up some experience with women.
/r/seduction15/08/20 09:10 PM
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The main problem is that those youtube guys mostly give out attraction and seduction tips and tactics that make you overanalytical and put you into your head. They're capitalizing on a niche. You have to realize that you will mess up all the time when interacting with girls and you can't follow a script. These days it's better to be human than perfect. You should ask yourself what would it take for you to feel attractive and seductive? Because the girl isn't dating your game, she's dating you. S…
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:57 PM
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The best course of action at this point is to stop watching those youtube guys, focus on building yourself up to actually be attractive and seductive, and socializing with enough girls to create opportunities for them to see you being an attractive and seductive man.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:44 PM
3

You might want to rethink your lifestyle proclivities if you're this stressed and anxious dude.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:28 PM
2

"Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me."
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:17 PM
3

Don't underestimate this one guys.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:13 PM
2

In my experience when a girl is heavily attracted sometimes they'll give like one pre-school level shit test and then just become more attracted and validation seeking. But more so in the context of a new relationship girls will shit test in the beginning to see what they can get away with.
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:33 PM
1

Lol I really like to end fights before the trolls come out.
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:26 PM
2

I get some of the most blatant choosing signals from teenage girls. I think it just comes down to women liking older men. I think it's because older men have more experience and tend to be more aligned with their masculinity. Conversely, younger women tend to be more aligned with their femininty and carry less emotional baggage.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:24 AM
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Like I said before, you can believe whatever you want, I don't give a shit lol. I'm choosing not to give you examples because you're wasting my time. My intuition told me that you're acting like a sarcastic ass to me right now because you can't understand a basic social skill without data and hard examples when you should be able to figure this out on your own. There's a reason my advice has top comment on your forum. It speaks for itself.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:12 AM
1

There's definitely traits that overlap, but for some reason guys interpret "be confident and masculine" as "be an asshole and treat girls like shit."
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:07 AM
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No. Trust your instincts and intuitions as a man and you will sense the difference. I figured this shit out on my own as a teenager before I even really knew what game was. Every shit test is unique to the situation and my original comment is some of the realest advice on shit testing you will find. The key is to be aware of them while they are happening.
/r/seduction15/08/20 08:03 AM
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In one instance she's testing your confidence to see how insecure you are, if your full of shit, and how much of her shit you'll take. In the other instance it's blatant disrespect. This is pretty rudimentary stuff dude.
/r/seduction15/08/20 07:41 AM
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Most people that have been with a few women can tell the difference between a woman that's teasing them or testing them versus a woman that's blatantly disrespecting them. You shouldn't need scientific data to understand this.
/r/seduction15/08/20 07:37 AM
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Dude you can believe whatever you want, I really don't give a shit lol. But you clearly don't understand how shit testing works.
/r/seduction15/08/20 07:31 AM
1

She was hot in the 90s. I don't know what the hell she looks like now lol.
/r/seduction15/08/20 07:23 AM
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Honestly dude I was referring more towards the Joe Pesci types. Angie Everhart is pretty hot.
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:54 AM
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He knew he had her before she knew it.
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:47 AM
0

Boys play offense, girls play defense.
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:44 AM
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This isn't exactly how shit tests work dude. Every woman will shit test you in the beginning. Most of them aren't even conscious that they do it. It's only when you're still getting shit tests deep into a relationship that you know you have a problem. The purpose of shit testing is to check your masculinity, your confidence, your strength, etc. She is literally testing you to see how much of her shit you will take, how much shit you will allow her to get away with. The only reason shit tests are…
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:41 AM
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I give this advice all the time and people always want to tell me it doesn't matter. This one is huge with feminine women. It seems most men go for the bad part and totally overlook the masculine part.
/r/seduction15/08/20 05:30 AM
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There are some pretty rough short dudes out there. But those dudes usually aren't bad in the charming, handsome, and charismatic sexually appealing way. They're usually just straight up risky and dangerous bad.
/r/seduction15/08/20 05:26 AM
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There's no mystery to this. It's masculine sex appeal. It's literally the same reason we like bad girls. They have feminine sex appeal.
/r/seduction15/08/20 03:48 AM
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The eyes, Chico. They never lie.
/r/seduction15/08/20 03:18 AM
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All girls under 30 are pretty much taken. If it's not a boyfriend its friends with benefits, side guys, orbiters, a guy she's "talking" to. Basically, they have options. So you may be in one of these categories. I'd play it cool. Flirt with her. Pretend that it doesn't bother you that she's taken. She might gravitate towards you because she's losing interest in her boyfriend. Also keep your options open and don't catch oneitis. Girls and guys are opposite. We don't like when girls have a ton of …
/r/seduction14/08/20 10:03 PM
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Maybe I should clarify: It can be manufactured or counterfeited, but that isn't real chemistry.
/r/seduction14/08/20 09:21 PM
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You don't want her to be thinking about her boyfriend, you want her focus on you. If her boyfriend is important to her then she will bring him up. Girls will often hide the fact that they have boyfriends because they want your attention or they're looking for their boyfriend's replacement. If a girl cheats for you or leaves her boyfriend for you - don't let it go to your head. Chances are she will do the same to you someday too.
/r/seduction14/08/20 08:47 PM
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It's when two people feel an energetic synchronization. It can't be manufactured or counterfeited.
/r/seduction14/08/20 08:39 PM
2

Based on the way you describe your personality and how you rate satisfaction of life experiences with a number system tells me you're a prime candidate to get wrapped up in that sort of thing if you ever got into it. Many people treat drugs and partying like a "hobby" until it's not fun anymore. Then it's an addiction.
/r/seduction14/08/20 07:33 PM
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Take my advice. With your personality type, you should never experiment with recreational drugs.
/r/seduction14/08/20 06:49 PM
2

Just let it go man. Don't worry about it. These things happen. Sometimes we meet someone and go "Well they're hot enough until I meet someone better" and then we fall in love. Conversely, you land someone out of your league and realize despite how hot they are on the outside, they're pretty ugly on the inside. Stop looking at her as the "former practice girl" and just be happy that by some twist of fate you found love. I also don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to practice your seduc…
/r/seduction14/08/20 05:08 AM
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Hey man, I posted a guide here in seduction a few days ago called "this is how you stop creeping women out or feeling creepy around women." I think it would be very helpful for your concerns especially number 3.
/r/seduction14/08/20 02:16 AM
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It's because most people think cold approach is cringey. I'm not saying that's how I feel, but I've heard a lot of people say it's cringey, weird, and creepy. You have to keep this in mind: A woman's perspective towards cold approach being a positive or negative thing is going to reside solely on the guy doing the approaching, his game, and her attraction level towards him. Her reaction could be anything from "It was fate." to "It was sexual harassment." A man's perspective towards cold approach…
/r/seduction13/08/20 09:41 PM
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Honestly man I think you're over thinking this if you're at the point where you're tracking days and measuring percentages. That's the kind of stuff that makes you needy whether you text or not. I'd just play it cool but that's me. The "high value" thing to do is just do whatever you want with conviction and not care what other people think. That's real high value, not the fake high value everyone promotes here. Would James Bond be this invested? He would just do whatever HE wanted.
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:47 PM
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This is boss advice man, especially setting the premise with honesty. It takes a man who's comfortable enough with rejection and vulnerability to do that. Most guys are so concerned with pleasing a girl and matching her expectations to get sex and validation, that they don't even ask themselves, is this girl compatible with me? The irony is that even if you aren't compatible, the girl will still respect you for having standards and speaking your true intentions.
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:33 PM
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I don't know that you're doing anything idiotic, but you should consider whether or not you really want to be involved with a girl that posts about her ex-friends with benefits on social media.
/r/seduction13/08/20 07:07 PM
1

Those are my preferred ways to answer a woman's questions. It's much more witty and charming and playful than it is to answer all of her questions directly. This is brilliant, by the way: "The most attractive man is the one the woman imagines for herself. By being mysterious you set free her own imagination. In her mind you will become whatever she needs."
/r/seduction13/08/20 05:16 PM
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Because it's not normal to just walk up to people and go "Hey what's your name?" with no context. You need to convey to her through your vibe, your tone, your energy, your body language, etc. Use your nonverbal communication to convey your interest and intentions if you want to be aloof verbally. Girls are more socially aware, so she'll pick up on your vibe and you can use her response to guage her vibe and interest level.
/r/seduction13/08/20 03:23 PM
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I posted a guide here a few days ago called "This is how you stop feeling creepy around women" which will probably be helpful to you. Also realize that introversion is in no way a setback in dating, it is only a setback in approaching. Understand the nuance here: You will have a harder time approaching and meeting girls and warming up to them, but once you do it will be much easier for you to really connect with them on a deeper level. So being introverted isn't holding you back, you just have t…
/r/seduction13/08/20 03:14 PM
2

Most guys are so shallow and have such low standards that all they care about is looks because they're dating from a place of scarcity. To get the higher value guys, women have to do the self-improvement work just like men do when we want to attract higher quality women.
/r/seduction13/08/20 02:58 PM
0

Woowoo call the PC police! There's men out here using a word sexist radical feminists don't like! But it's okay for women to use sexist words, because you know, black people can say nygga!
/r/seduction13/08/20 01:05 AM
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I'm not reading that bullshit again. You had no point, never did. I used a word you don't think I should be able to use because I'm a man. You're the sexist. This shit is obnoxious. Get the fuck over yourself. I'm not bragging. I'm laughing.
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:00 AM
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You never presented a debate. Just continuous rants and insults because I used one little word you don't like. It's pathetic. The real difference between me and you is that I'm not trying to be right because I have nothing to prove. I'm just observing how far you're willing to take your little charade. To insanity. Get help.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:40 PM
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Yep that's what I thought. No debate. Nothing argument. No contention. Just change the subject. Classic PC feminist victim shit.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:25 PM
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This is cute, you're all butthurt and projecting all over the place again. I'm not mad, nor am I pushing you around or trying to silence you. I entertained your "debate" 20 times over. Same shit different post. You called me sexist cause I used the slut word. I said that I'm not sexist and I don't give a fuck what you think. It's that simple. How is that pushing you around and silencing you? That is your victim complex speaking again. Unlike you, I'm not oppressed or powerless, that's why I don'…
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:04 PM
2

I do agree with you, but cosmetic dentistry can be very expensive. Your buddy got a good deal.
/r/seduction12/08/20 09:06 PM
0

Reverence doesn't mean supplicating to every woman's demands, or making sure that all women remain unoffended at all times. You're just mad because I won't let you push me around and guilt trip me into playing your "women are victims" game. You don't get to instruct people as to how they can and can't talk. You don't get to decide that women can say certain words but men can't. You want to empower yourself by silencing others and taking away their power and that's not the right way to promote ch…
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:40 PM
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We had your discussion. 20 times over. Same old story. By the way, I don't hate or emulate women. I LOVE women. I have so much reverence for the feminine. That's what I've been trying to tell you the whole time. You're barking up the wrong tree with your bullshit crusade.
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:16 PM
0

Just keep emulating the men you hate. That's what your type does best.
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:07 PM
0

Just because some bat shit egotisical feminist types some words on a keyboard doesn't make them true. Your grandiose opinion of yourself is disgusting. I think you try very hard to compete with the boys even though you're highly unaware of it. I told you, I used to hang out with feminists women and advocate for their cause. I stopped that shit when I realized how terribly sick people like you were fucking healthy women up. Nothing epic about it. I just understand where you're coming from.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:58 PM
1

You want to express yourself physically in masculine ways. What comes to mind for me is meditation, yoga, martial arts, weight lifting, calisthenics, parkour, sex, etc. It's usually alluring to men when women dance because they're expressing their bodily awareness and their feminine form. Women are attracted to a masculine form so they appreciate a similar bodily awareness. This is all very primal instinctual stuff.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:53 PM
4

I am promoting self-improvement. I said it was "overrated" ironically because the people that need it most are also simultaneously the ones here saying it's overrated.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:47 PM
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I don't have to manifest it because it is my reality. I know you think you're being witty and satirical, but radical feminist emulate the same behaviors they despise. Remember, I used to be on your side. I understand the game you're playing. Drop the sanctimony act.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:42 PM
1

Even if you aren't interested in dancing, you can trigger the same allure by developing bodily control and awareness in other ways.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:25 PM
5

I have a tooth with a tiny chip in it I doubt people even notice, and I thought that was a setback lol. Chances are you could pull this off if you're pretty fit. After you introduce yourself to a girl and she asks how you're doing say: "I'm bummed out because I was doing chin ups the other day and accidentally knocked my tooth out on the fucking bar. Now I've gotta save up for a new tooth." It's not a line because it's real. You're owning yourself. And now you've established that you didn't get …
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:11 PM
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Self-improvement is vastly overrated on here because most of the people on here have no success, no hobbies, no friends, no lifestyle, and no confidence. So they either blame all their failure on their looks or validate themselves by calling attraction a "numbers game."
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:59 PM
1

Why even bother replying?
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:51 PM
1

Why don't you believe me?
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:40 PM
1

Lol you don't believe me? That's hilarious.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:36 PM
1

It's the truth. His name was James. We grew up together. Most of what I know about British culture I learned from him.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:32 PM
1

I'm just wondering. I haven't met too many people from the UK and I like to learn about the culture. I had a friend from Great Britian in middle school. He was cool, but his parents were snarky and confrontational as fuck.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:24 PM
1

Are all people in the UK this snarky and confrontational? I've always heard that but I assumed it was just a stereotype.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:17 PM
1

I tried to help you and you told me to chill. I told you I was chill and you told me to chill again. You are projecting. You think I'm all unchill and defensive when I really don't care. I gave you 3 different sets of advice, take what you want from it.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:11 PM
1

I guess it depends on where you're at, who you're with, and what game you want to run. In my area social media doesn't mean much, and I value my time. Results are results.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:07 PM
1

I always understood that. It's just how you're reading it. You just think this is personal because I said your advice was bad, when in reality it's not personal I'm just trying to be as help as possible to the average.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:01 PM
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What do you mean turn around? Why do you think I'm mad at you? I can't give advice that applies to the UK because I've never been there and I don't know their customs. What I do know is basic male and female dynamic and what I've witnessed gets me and other men results, so I gave that information out and 230 people have agreed with it so far.
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:50 PM
0

Results are results, and results speak for themselves. Always do what gains you actual results rather than what people tell you over the internet.
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:32 PM
1

Yeah but you can be honest in a rude way and honest in a polite way. In my experience most women are polite in a neutral way. Most women would just take the damn number and never call the guy rather than bluntly reject him publicly in a gym where she has to see him over and over again. Or she would say "I have a boyfriend." Most women with a heart aren't going to say "No I don't want your number" unless your approach is threatening or similarly uncalibrated. And I've had a few different women re…
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:25 PM
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I'm not uncalm dude. I figured you were probably younger and in a different country than me. I'm not sure what customs are common in the UK, but that would be bad advice here. I wasn't going in on you personally but I wanted to explain for people outside your area why that's a bad move. Do whatever is preferred in your area just make sure you're the one setting the frame and moving the interaction forward. In my area we have a lot of girls giving guys social media because they want followers or …
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:19 PM
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In my experience when girls try to run game like guys do it comes off really contrived. I know she's trying to pick me up because as a man I understand game better than she does. I'd suggest turning on the feminine charm and allure and seducing him. I think you can pull this off in a shy way or a confident way.
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:08 PM
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Maybe for teenagers. I'm in my 20s and I don't have time to follow random women around on social media. I'm only even on reddit because we're in quarantine. Either she wants to see me or she doesn't, and if she doesn't I want to know because I'd rather not waste my time on a girl that doesn't want to see me. The phone is just a tool to schedule a date. Social media makes you a woman's follower. Guys that get laid aren't sitting around following women's various social media profiles because they …
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:50 PM
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The guy is asking because he wants to approach women at the gym. How is that "people they already know deeply?"
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:43 PM
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Bad advice. Social media is the opposite of "close." And it's not "odd" if you value your time. Like I said in the post, it's the more mature approach. I don't know what planet you guys live on where the only thing people communicate with is a bunch of social media profiles? You're also letting women set the frame when you take this route. You aren't getting her phone number to "keep it touch" it's to schedule a date and seal the deal. You don't want to be a woman's follower. Let me give you a s…
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:35 PM
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The thing is I'm not sexist, I'm not offended, I'm not bent out of shape. I really don't care. I'm just fucking around with you, hoping someday you'll present a shred of intellectual thought. Yet all I've seen is how insecure, self-righteous, entitled, and millitantly emotional you are. You're a radical feminist. A fanatical PC zealot. You've used every made up bullshit PC buzzword in the book. Your arguments are utterly illogical. You have a serious victim complex. You want to act like you're s…
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:10 PM
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I usually just say something like "This is my number - you should hit me up sometime." Or "Where's your phone? I'm going to give you my number." I don't do this a lot but I've never met a girl that was like "No thanks, I don't want your number." That would be excessively rude. A feminine woman would just take your number and never hit you up rather than reject you publicly like that. And this should go without saying, but this is after you get to know her a bit. Don't just walk up to girls and d…
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:13 AM
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I don't know that it's done in chivalry. What it comes down to is that many guys are tired of investing time and energy and effort into a girl only for it to not go anywhere because it was all a big game. So now men are pushing for sex and hookups as fast as possible so they feel like they're getting something out of it before she flakes. Not to mention, why the hell would I want to commit to a girl that's led on and rejected a bunch of guys anyway? Like it or not, your girlfriend is an extensio…
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:49 AM
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This is actually the root of most of these issues. We didn't get as much love and attention as we needed growing up, so then we develop a low self image and seek that attention from others.
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:42 AM
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Well ideally I don't get rejected and she'll actually contact me later, but even if she doesn't it doesn't actually feel like a rejection. But it's also like saying: "If you want to hang out with a cool guy, here's my number" rather than "Hey you're hot and we talked for like five minutes, will you give me your phone number yet?"
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:37 AM
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Yeah but leading guys on repeatedly for amusement is equally off putting. This is one of the reasons why guys have stopped comitting to girlfriends and relationships. Girls are too risky to be long term investments because of stuff like this.
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:12 AM
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SUCCUBUS!!!!
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:08 AM
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Girls think guys want a chase because girls want to be chased. Girls think guys like a girl that's hard to get because girls like guys that are hard to get. When a girl shows little interest or is too inconsistent, I get turned off and lose interest. Especially if I have a lot of options. Why am I going to waste my time chasing one girl when I have a lot of options? I have more respect for a girl that doesn't play these games. What you want to do is seduce him without playing games. Use your fem…
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:57 AM
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Oh I believe it. JetPillar is a random fanatical PC zealot and I feel very sorry for her. I wonder what happened to her in her life that truamatized her so badly that she jumped on the PC bandwagon and became a radical feminist. Deep down I don't think she actually hates men or masculinity, she's probably just a misguided soul who's faced a lot of pain in her life and has developed a victim complex. I feel sorry for her because a happy person would never get so upset about one little word. I hop…
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:47 AM
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The only way you could ever pull this question off is if you sincerely 110% don't care because you're already seeing a bunch of other girls. And even then, guys like that don't need to ask this question because they don't care. Those guys have the attitude that she's lucky to get a shot with HIM. Further more, when you ask this question, it subconsciously communicates that you aren't seeing other girls, which as stupid as it sounds is actually a turn off to most women even though they will never…
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:17 AM
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I'm not offended, I'm not angry, I'm calm as hell. This is funny. Like I've already told you 100 times, I really don't care what you think about me. All you've proven is that you know how run around in circles with your little emotional arguments rather than presenting a genuine debate. Got a problem with a word I used? Get over yourself. With all the positivity I experience why would I care what some random fanatical PC zealot on the internet thinks? I honestly feel sorry for you if one little …
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:00 AM
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There is truth to this. But at the same time, how many female friends have you had that you would secretly be into having sex with? The difference between that and an orbiter is that with the orbiter she knows it and is taking advantage of that. I've also put girls in my friendzone, so as men we can have orbiters too. The difference is that men will often still have sex with their orbiters. Girls won't do that unless they get dumped or something. Or we might just flirt with the girl for shits an…
/r/seduction11/08/20 11:46 PM
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I personally wouldn't approach in a gym without choosing signals. But if you can get some indication of interest then by all means go for it. And here's some extra advice: Always go for the phone number. It shows that you're serious about connecting with her and it's the more mature approach. Most guys ask for social media because they're scared they'll get rejected if they push for a phone number. The irony is that girls give out social media all the time and it's relatively meaningless. If a g…
/r/seduction11/08/20 11:11 PM
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Great advice! This is why it's so imperative for men to actually be an attractive and seductive person, rather than just learning attraction and seduction tips. However, mystery can go a lot deeper than having abundance mindset and outcome independence. It's also about behaving inconsistently, standing out from other guys, your vibe, unpredictability, spontaneity, etcetera. The list goes on and on. Women like mysterious men because she gets to unravel him and solve the mystery. It's exciting for…
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:35 PM
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I haven't "attacked" you for being PC, nor am I telling you that you can't be offended. Let me spell it out for you since you seem to be so inept: You have every right to be offended by anything I say, and you're welcome to challenege it. But just because you have a problem with something I say doesn't objectively make it a problem. You responded to my comment passive-aggressively implying that I'm promoting sexism, so I responded to you because I disagree, and you lost it. Your ill-logic is all…
/r/seduction11/08/20 09:36 PM
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They're missing the cheap hair dye, short hair cut, thick rimmed glasses, and boyish features.
/r/seduction11/08/20 07:56 PM
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This is good advice but I disagree with the grocery store. I get straight up choosing signals at the grocery store so that isn't off limits to SOME women. I wouldn't advise doing pick up at a store though, choosing signals makes it more natural and organic. I'd also like to add that if your only goal is one night stands, go for women who are looking for that as well. I'm usually weeding out this trait, but seduction works much more seamlessly when two people are on the same page.
/r/seduction11/08/20 07:27 PM
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I've actually heard this from female friends of mine. And these aren't even super hot fit girls. But they say because they aren't doing the approaching, they don't get the guys they want. Because the guys they really want don't approach them, they say they feel like they have to take what they can get, which is like choosing the guy they dislike the least. So I don't know what the solution is. Women start approaching? Lowering expectations? Unfortunately, I think everyone hates this because I do…
/r/seduction11/08/20 07:16 PM
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I think you misread something because you just reiterated my point here, but only as if we're somehow at a disagreement.
/r/seduction11/08/20 06:19 PM
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How did you come to that conclusion? I'm not asking cynically, I really want to know if you know some deeper insight into this.
/r/seduction11/08/20 06:16 PM
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Normally. But usually in these types of arrangements it's the guy doing stuff for the girl because he likes her and her taking advantage of that.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:54 PM
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Those are the types of girls I don't say that to because they're often being sincere. You can often tell which kinds of girls are the ones that use men like this versus the sincere ones.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:37 PM
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I agree with you, but this is one of those things people complain about a lot on here, and I'm putting the accountability on the men on this one. Because men these days have no standards or self-respect and settle for this shit. This problem isn't limited to women because as men we will also keep girls around as friends with benefits, make out buddies, or just so other girls see us hanging out with girls. This isn't so much a "women are deceitful" problem as much as it's a "know your value" prob…
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:26 PM
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Even if you still really like the girl, it atleast gets you out of the emotional turmoil of "she likes me, she likes me not" and the clarity alone can be freeing.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:14 PM
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Men usually speak from a place of logic except when they're being emotional, women usually speak from a place of emotion except when they're being logical. So in a sense you do have to translate girl speak into guy speak, which makes me wonder how often women have to translate boy speak into girl speak, and how easy or difficult that is for them.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:11 PM
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Thank you dude. I'll do some brainstorming, even if I can't come up with an article I can probably think of a few tips to get you started.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:05 PM
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This trips women up too, because they're used to men accepting their friendship as consolation for rejection. I've told girls before: "No, that's okay, I just don't see you as a friend." I don't always say that, because if she's sincere then I'm usually cool with that. But you guys need to realize that when most women say "let's just be friends" she's really saying "I'm politilely demoting you to orbiter." Or as Hyde puts it on That 70s Show: "If a girl breaks up with you and says let's just be …
/r/seduction11/08/20 04:27 PM
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Most men friendzone themselves out of fear of rejection. You'll will end up blowing so many more shots with girls by hiding your intentions than you will being straightforward and getting rejected. Rather than giving her the opportunity to reject you, you're rejecting yourself for her.
/r/seduction11/08/20 04:14 PM
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I didn't use the word in a derogatory sense. I used it as an adjective to describe a woman who lives a particular lifestyle. This isn't addressed towards any person in particular or to put anyone down, this is the accurate definition of the term. I'm not proud or ashamed because I'm not placing any more or any less importance on it than any other word I used. Just because you don't like it doesn't make me sexist. Your lack of logic is all over the place because you're following rules that you ma…
/r/seduction11/08/20 04:07 PM
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Presentation is important and I can appreciate your desire for more detail but that's too specific. I don't even want to suggest what I do because rather than thinking critically people will just think emulation is some sort of cheat code. Just keep trying bro, there's a lot of trial and error in finding your style. I might write a follow up on style if enough people want to learn that from me.
/r/seduction11/08/20 03:12 PM
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I'm mostly self-taught so unfortunately I don't have book recommendations. I might try and explain how I learned this stuff on my own and post a follow up article if enough people want to learn.
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:59 PM
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She isn't dating your game, she's dating YOU.
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:56 PM
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It's a huge problem that nobody ever discusses. And not all pretty people misuse that advantage to take advantage of others. Most of them just feel a sense of freedom others don't because they've been validated their who life. You have to build yourself into a man that YOU belief is attractive so that you can give yourself the validation that others got that you didn't. Plus, when you feel attractive about yourself, other people will feel you are attractive as well, and you will attract them wit…
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:55 PM
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We could sit here all day debating which forms of pornography are worse than others. Much of that will come down to the individual. The key is to lose your dependency on the consumption of sexualized content for self-gratification. This will change the way you look at women as well as your own perception of your sexuality as a man. A good rule of thumb is that if you can jerk off to it, then you probably shouldn't be looking at it. For some guys that may be hardcore pornography, for others that …
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:46 PM
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The reason that disclaimer is so bad is because it completely disregards the social norms that men and women have learned to follow when communicating between each other. But even worse, it tells the woman that you expect her to feel uncomfortable, which also causes her to expect herself to feel uncomfortable. It also tells the girl that you have probably made other women uncomfortable in the past which is why you feel the need to present a disclaimer. A confident guy would never say something l…
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:37 PM
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The reason that disclaimer is so bad is because it completely disregards the social norms that men and women have learned to follow when communicating between each other. But even worse, it tells the woman that you expect her to feel uncomfortable, which also causes her to expect herself to feel uncomfortable. It also tells the girl that you have probably made other women uncomfortable in the past which is why you feel the need to present a disclaimer. A confident guy would never say something l…
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:33 PM
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Apparently a mod didn't think this advice was strong enough on it's own and removed it thinking it could cause more harm than good because I didn't mention the importance of active listening and calibration. Since it's a big post, I was trying to keep things concise and natural and as far away from the termanology of pickup/game as possible, which is why I also omitted abundance mindset, outcome independence, etc. So instead they have posted a sticky on it and fixed it now. My opinion is that th…
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:29 AM
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Right on man, glad I could help!
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:15 AM
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No problem man, glad I could help!
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:14 AM
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Because "women can say slut because black people can say nygga" is some of the most dumbass bullshit logic I've ever heard in my life. You're just calling things sexist that you don't like because you're offended and you have some grandiose ego in which you believe you're entitled to decide how certain people can and can't speak, which is racist and sexist in and of itself. I didn't say my use of the slut word was wrong and I don't care. I said I understand the nuances and context of the word an…
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:11 AM
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Your 30s isn't too late for you to lose your virginity. You still have a good chance. Staying away from porn will help you in ways you can't imagine. Just look at the comments.
/r/seduction11/08/20 10:03 AM
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You wasted my time. I felt like I should reply to you to learn and understand more about your persepective since you replied to my advice. All you've done is complain repeatedly about why you don't like it and why you think it's bad advice without any attempt to understand the depth behind anything. If you think my advice is so terrible and you hate it so much, then why are you even here?
/r/seduction11/08/20 09:59 AM
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This entire time I've corresponded with you, which has been a massive waste of time and I regret even bothering with it, you have misquoted me and continously taken everything I said out of context. You aren't even comprehending the nuances of what I'm writing as you continue to ignore them. You're the outlier here, just get over yourself already.
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:50 PM
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If you look at your quotes and the words I wrote you will see that they are worded completely differently. They aren't even my quotes. They're misinterpretations you created. You're simply misinterpreting the contexts and the nuances behind what I'm saying. That's okay. I don't expect everyone to understand or agree with my advice. It's no big deal to me. I hope you atleast found something positive in that behemoth of an advice list, there are some hidden gems in there.
/r/seduction10/08/20 09:04 AM
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I'm not mad at all. I was asking you that question honestly because I was intrigued if those really were your preferences. You're just taking it really personally. You misquoted me numerous times stripping my words of all nuance and context. And you still don't seem to recognize that this advice is just as much about men not feeling creepy about THEMSELVES as it is about not creeping women out, and you continuously ignore that.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:28 AM
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I never said there was anything wrong with it. I said it wasn't common. And I never said it was good advice for all women. That's your deal. You're literally making up fake quotes right now because I didn't kiss your ass when you called my advice poor. You shared your opinion and that's cool. But you not everyone agrees with your opinion either. It goes both ways.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:18 AM
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Cannabis boosts libido while high, but it lowers it overall in general daily life. I see the reduced sperm count idea getting passed around a lot, but I don't know if there's any empirical data on that yet. I wouldn't read too much into it.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:03 AM
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How am I supposed to give advice that applies to 100% of women? This is ridiculous. You don't have to think my advice is good. I'm fine with that. But that doesn't make my advice objectively bad. Most of the women here said it was positive. You are in the minority here. And you're taking a lot of my advice out of context. I said a lot of women are uneducated and lack critical thinking skills. Guess what? So do a lot of men. That advice was given in the context that men shouldn't pedestalize wome…
/r/seduction10/08/20 07:51 AM
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This isn't an issue of me being sexist, it's an issue of you having insanely illogical made up standards. How do you come up with this ridiculous bullshit? This might be some of the dumbest "logic" I've ever seen on the internet, and that's saying A LOT.
/r/seduction10/08/20 07:39 AM
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Realize that my advice doesn't revolve exclusively around pleasing women and their desires, much of it relates to self-improvement for men and giving them the skills they need to build courage and confidence to be themselves around others, especially women. Also realize that just because my advice doesn't reflect you or your friends preferences doesn't mean that many other women don't appreciate these qualities in men. I have gotten more responses from women saying that this is the kind of stuff…
/r/seduction10/08/20 07:32 AM
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I find these things to be universally important to most women, and most men want to be as universally appealing as possible.
/r/seduction10/08/20 02:01 AM
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So you prefer men that are out of shape, effeminate, can't hold eye contact, and don't create sexual tension? Interesting. Your preferences aren't common.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:43 AM
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I'm actually a huge advocate for active listening and calibration, and I usually mention them in my general dating advice. But since this list was pretty exhaustive already, I figured that I touched on these concepts with empathy, social skills, female behavior and dynamic, etcetera. Active listening comes so naturally to me that occasionally I forget that some people really need to hear that piece and practice it.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:14 AM
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Actually I see A LOT more women using the SLUT-word to refer to each other than I see men using it. I think the philosophy that using that word automatically makes someone sexist and disrespectful towards women's sexuality is something that you made up, and I'm not buying into it. By your philosophy, loads of women are sexist towards each other. Or is it just men that can't use the word? This is utterly illogical, and it kills you because you're probably used to men buying into your BS. I don't …
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:06 AM
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Because I know I'm not a sexist, even though you're weirdly obsessed with trying to convince me that I am. Let's be real: You called me a sexist because I used a word you didn't like. And you're so PC drunk you can't let it go. This is like feminist-trolling at it's finest.
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:34 AM
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Since I'm not selling a product or service I can cut out all the BS and just boil it down to the essentials.
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:11 AM
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Thanks for sharing, hopefully the guys will see this and take note.
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:08 AM
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I'm not doing anything wrong or sexist, if you actually read the text closely you'll see that A WOMAN called me a "player." I never used the term in reference to myself once. Holy fucking shitballs! Maybe this isn't some abstract attack on women's sexuality after all? The feminism lecture has been real, but don't you have anything better to do than try and convince me that I'm some degrading sexist jerk all night? Because when you phrase it that way you aren't actually judging my word choice, yo…
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:06 AM
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I like your explanation of "you do not verbalize your feelings you demonstrate them." This is what women seem to respond to. Expressing how you feel rather that telling her how you feel. Communication involves many senses yet we prioritize the verbal. I believe the emotional connection can get so strong that for some it can transcend from empathy into borderline telepathy.
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:55 PM
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You are more than welcome to add that! However in the context of dating apps, I think because many men face so much rejection they're screening for compatibility. Some guys are looking for specific types of sex and relationships, just as your probably are too.
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:47 PM
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Mobile changes the formatting. By number 3 do you mean getting comfortable with sexuality or understanding female behavior and social dynamics?
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:44 PM
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You're being obnoxiously self-righteous. You're defining my entire character as a man based on me using one little word that got you triggered and offended. YOU are the one that's being judgmental here. You can replace the word "slutty" with whatever less-sexist adjective you want. Feel free to edit my writing to your PC heart's content. But your perception of me is not my perception of me and I really don't care what your perception of me is because you're just an angry person on an internet fo…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:39 PM
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As men we are biologically hardwired to feel the desire to spread our seed to fertile women. There's no use in fighting this desire because you can't help it. Rather develop the strength to accept it for what it is and the discipline to control it rather than allowing it to control you. I like to appreciate women like works of art. Am I going to put every painting I've ever admired up on my wall? No, just the ones I really liked and connected with. Jordan Peterson says something like "a man soun…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:27 PM
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You can practice empathy while holding masculine frame. I don't understand why you relate empathy to heartbreak and abuse...
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:18 PM
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Believe it or not, I'm actually a bit more aware than you would like to give me credit for. I actually understand the nuances and the context of the words being used here. The difference between me and you is that I'm not on a self-righteous soapbox right now lecturing people how to think and talk. I don't have qualms about my political incorrectness, you do. And you obviously have some really twisted ideas about men as well. If the "bros" in seduction bother you so damn much, why not spend your…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:14 PM
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This is a really great point dude. These angry minorites often tend to have the loudest voices in media, culture, politics, and society, which is why it's become accepted as the mainstream narrative. Most women in alignment with their divine feminine energy actually have an admiration for the masculine and male sexuality, just like men have admiration for the feminine and feminine sexuality. So the key concept here is that it's imperative to be a type of man that a woman would admire, because wh…
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:58 PM
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And how has that strategy been working out for you? Nobody said anything about acting like a feminist. I think you're confusing empathy with sympathy. Or in this case SIMPathy.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:39 PM
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That kind of stuff meant something to women in the 1950s but they're desensitized to it now. Be gentlemanly where it counts but otherwise just be yourself.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:33 PM
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What's the true nature of promiscuity? I want to get a better understanding of what you're asking before giving my thoughts.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:30 PM
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Thanks for reading, I'm glad it resonated! I hope the guys will see your comment and take note.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:27 PM
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And I'm sure all that time you spend jerking yourself off to the Hub surely makes you popular with the ladies. Women just LOVE a man with a killer porn habit.
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:22 PM
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Actually this advice has been getting great responses from both men and women. Since you seem to be an authority on the subject, why not write your own sensible seduction guidelines for the people who want to pretend like life is some feminized liberal arts college campus and share it with us in the comments? I welcome females to share their perspective here, no matter how radical their beliefs may be. I'd also love to hear exactly what you find "toxic" about my advice? The seduction guidelines …
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:15 PM
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I'd rather you do it for women than not do it at all. Most guys won't even do it for themselves, so if you can do it for women, it's worth it. If you can do it for yourself? Even better. Your journey is testament to this.
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:32 PM
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Don't make weak excuses. Practice self-development.
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:27 PM
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For many guys this will be an entire lifestyle change. This is not a quick fix, it's a journey.
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:14 PM
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You don't put them below you. You just put yourself first, and you can still do that and practice empathy. That has nothing to do with seeing women as "less" than you are. If you can learn how to empathize with women while holding your masculine frame, this will drive most women wild. The reason it's not commonly discussed is because most men can't do it.
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:13 PM
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If a man has sex with 100 women, he's a male slut. If a woman has sex with 100 men, she's female player. Got it yet? I was only using the termanology that's common among men to convey a message from one man to another. No need to get your PC feelings all butthurt. But if you want to have an objective discussion about internalized sexism, let's talk about how you choose to use "you guys" as a euphemism for all men rather than addressing me directly when you have a personal problem with my word ch…
/r/seduction09/08/20 07:04 PM
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Okay, first off, women aren't stupid. Women can pick up on vibes and tell which kind of guys are the ones that have slept with 5 girls versus 100. Why did you even think that would work? Imagine if you were talking to a slutty party girl that's been with over 100 men and she told you 5. Would you be naive enough to fall for that? This is a shit test. What you want to do is acknowledge it but play it off cool. When a woman said I seemed like a player, I said: "Yeah I'm a lover, but I'm damn selec…
/r/seduction09/08/20 06:17 PM
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Actually, her comment starts with "Hey, neato fact," but I figured it would be okay for me to share my experiences. You know, as long as you're good with that, of course.
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:35 PM
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I've also faced the reverse problem before as a guy. I was pushing for more of a long term friends with benefits and the girl was like "nah I just want a hook up."
/r/seduction09/08/20 12:27 PM
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I feel you - I'm not particularly interested in getting married. At least not for a long time. But those women you speak of that are beautiful inside and out. They're a different breed man. They usually do most of the fun stuff early on and are mature enough to get married by 25. Women also have a strong intuition for high value men, and when they land one their mindset changes from "I'm exploring my options" to "I better not fuck this up."
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:21 AM
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That doesn't even happen to most people though. Most men either marry their college girlfriend or some single mother or woman that's aged out of her prime and ready to settle down. The reason those rich men get those women is because they have the money and success to offer them. Those girls that are beautiful inside and out are usually scooped up and married before they hit 25 by guys who have their shit together and a young age. Starting during your teens is ideal, but I'd rather start in my l…
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:13 AM
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It may not be common but it definitely happens. Many dudes get in their 30s or 40s and get wealthy and create attractive lifestyles and start plowing through milfs left and right. But it doesn't even have to be some crazy sexual shit. There's plenty of women out there looking for the father figure / provider types.
/r/seduction09/08/20 03:00 AM
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If you look at the comments, most of other women are saying the same things as OP. What I took from that is that the men are making themselves the center of attention and the women are turned off by that. I'm not in my 30s, but my prediction is that these men probably feel like their at the higher value because the women are over 30, and they feel like they're doing the woman a favor by giving her a shot with them. The irony is that it's a role reversal, usually younger women hold a sense of hig…
/r/seduction09/08/20 02:36 AM
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Part of being a hot, confident, and masculine guy is that you don't care how you compare to other guys.
/r/seduction09/08/20 01:50 AM
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It definitely does stunt your growth because most of the women you will date will be past the learning/experimenting phase while you're going through yours. So it's not an ideal situation but these guys can still kill it. I've also seen some girls in this age range post here that they're virgins or really inexperienced as well so not all women are highly experienced at this age either. The main reason this is more problematic for men is because women expect men to be leaders and that definitely …
/r/seduction09/08/20 01:16 AM
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I'm not denying anything - I said that stuff to motivate him to really put some thought into what's holding him back so that once he figures it out he can start improving those things. Once he gets his insecurities in check it will increase his confidence, he'll feel more entitled to a fulfilling romantic life, and girls will pick up on it too. Also, just to share from a different perspective: I started dating as a teenager and even my experience level fucks with my confidence and self-worth. I …
/r/seduction09/08/20 12:06 AM
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So your mistakes reveal your red flags and character flaws. So if I'm interpreting this correctly, your contention is to focus on developing yourself into the type of man you want to be rather than creating the lifestyle you want to live? If so I would agree with this. She isn't in a relationship with your lifestyle, she's in a relationship with YOU. I think a lot of men choose the route of lifestyle achievements and accumulating reaources because they think it excuses them from doing the self-d…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:10 PM
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I really wouldn't describe myself as a charasmatic dude, but it's something I strive to improve on. It comes with confidence and feeling the freedom to express your authentic self. I would look at some role models you consider charasmatic, don't copy them but observe their behavior and see if you can channel a similar vibe with your own personality. My presence is what I rely on. I practice a form of meditation called mindfulness which helps me keep present when I'm with people. I'm also high in…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:02 PM
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This isn't playing games - you're just dating a narcissist.
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:28 PM
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Once you cultivate a strong masculine presence, build some game and charisma, and develop and understanding of female behavior, you'll probably start seeing rapid success.
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:23 PM
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Everything you're doing is fine. You keep it exciting by offering variety and connection. Girls want a sensual experience. You want to give her emotional highs and lows and everything in between. For example, one day make sweet love down by the fire. Revel in that passion and intimacy. The next date, fuck her like an animal. Revel in that lust and perversion. If you set the template, she'll probably follow your lead. Girls just want to feel your presence. Since she likes oral, lick her from head…
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:21 PM
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You need some charisma and some understanding of female dynamic as well as male dynamic (most men overlook this one). Otherwise you're just a ripped handsome dude that's still shy and can't talk to girls. Good news is - if you've got the fundamentals in check, girls will make it easier on you once you give them a taste of your charm.
/r/seduction08/08/20 10:05 PM
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Can you elaborate on your mistakes being a representation of who you are? I've never heard anyone say that before and I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not sure that it's healthy to use your mistakes to represent yourself unless I'm misinterpreting this.
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:58 PM
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It sounds like this girl is just tripping then. At your age it's worth it to keep your options open, don't let this girl's entitlement mess with your head.
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:19 PM
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The problem is that this is not a simple question with a simple answer. But here's how I define it: Attraction is polar energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. The source of your attraction is you masculine sexual energy. Your masculine sexual energy will polarize a woman's feminine sexual energy because opposites attract. Attractive people understand how to cultivate this sexual polar energy and radiate it to others. These people are mostly doing this intuitively and in…
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:00 PM
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Guys are really verbal. Chances are the only way to know for sure is for you to ask him or for him to tell you. Since you're a girl, you have endless options to show him that you like him. Turn on the seductive charm and flirt with him. Guys are really verbal, visual, and physical, so that's the most obvious senses to appeal to. I'm convinced that every woman has the power inside of her to be a seductress, it's just about optimizing your feminine sexual energy first.
/r/seduction08/08/20 08:38 PM
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As a hardcore introvert I'm confirming this.
/r/seduction08/08/20 07:03 PM
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You probably don't actually have dating problems man. You'll be surprised how much of that you'll develop instinctively and intuitively. You have personal problems that are preventing you from dating. You don't feel like you're good enough for girls so they aren't going to be convinced you're good enough for them either. What do you think it would take for you to feel like you're deserving of a girl's attention? What can you come up with?
/r/seduction08/08/20 06:52 PM
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So I guess always wearing condoms, looking out for red flags, and not being so phobic is probably the sanest solution for people that want to experience fulfilling sex lives?
/r/seduction08/08/20 06:09 PM
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There's a whole artform to this, and I can't teach you how to paint over an internet thread.
/r/seduction08/08/20 04:58 PM
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What I usually say is something like: "Listen to her words and retain that information, but pay closer attention to her actions ans behavior." I need to add that to my cliff notes. Yes, eye contact and body language are fundamental to sexual tension. If you have a strong sense of empathy you can use this to your full advantage.
/r/seduction08/08/20 04:47 PM
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Here's my cliff notes: Be authentically confident in yourself, be flirtatious and spark sexual tension, and be in your masculine energy at all times. Trust in your instincts and intuition as a man. Most guys are too nice to be flirty and sexual, too insecure to believe in themselves, act like the girl is doing them a favor by even acknowledging his presence, and they match her feminine energy. Don't do any of this. Flirting and sexual tension is more about the vibes, energy, and tone you bring r…
/r/seduction08/08/20 04:26 PM
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It's because girls are just as confused about boys as boys are confused about girls. And their whole lives they've been conditioned to believe that men are horny sex animals that prioritize sex over everything and just want to get laid 24/7, and if you want to keep him around you better keep him satisified. They don't even realize that if a dude can't keep it up 99% of the time it has nothing to do with them.
/r/seduction08/08/20 03:39 PM
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I agree. I personally believe that most people choose to be as shallow as they can afford to be. If a man OR a woman thinks can get away with dating mutiple people in the same circle - they'll probably try it. I only brought it up because you presented OP with a hypothetical role reversal scenario, to which my response was that scenario DOES happen to guys all the time. And guys talk to each other too. And we make observations like "that girl plays with people's feelings." I don't think men are …
/r/seduction08/08/20 03:19 PM
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If a girl falls for a guy's friend it's "an unfortunate accident that wasn't supposed to happen that way." When a guy falls for a girl's friend he's "being a player and an idiot and taking advantage of women."
/r/seduction08/08/20 02:37 PM
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I agree with you, but this shit happens all the time. I've seen plenty of girls start dating a guy then fall for one of his friends instead. It's a massive double standard.
/r/seduction08/08/20 01:58 PM
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I mean I don't really know what to tell you man, your situation is all over the place and I'm not even sure which girl you're talking about at this point. What I am telling you is that if you want to flirt with multiple girls you're allowed to do that. Don't lie, cheat, or lead people on. Be considerate and respectful But you have every right to keep your options open and date around. Women do it all the time, and so can men. And if a woman you aren't even dating blocks you on social media, accu…
/r/seduction08/08/20 01:55 PM
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Dude these are huge red flags. What this girl is doing is controlling and mainpulative. If she isn't your wife or your girlfriend then you don't owe her an explanation. I'd be vigilant in case this girl falls into the overly-attached-creepy-stalker camp. I'd also suggest not referring to yourself as a player, defining yourself that way often attracts this kind of stuff.
/r/seduction08/08/20 12:35 PM
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Like most of the population, you probably think confident and assertive means impressing and entertaining girls just because they give you the time of day. Confident and assertive means that you believe in yourself and you're self-assured enough to feel the freedom to express yourself. This isn't a pick up problem, it's a personal development problem. I want you to do this exercise: Reflect on what value you feel like you have and could share with a woman and write those things down. Then make a…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:31 AM
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There is no "appropriate" amount of time to wait. And if a girl can sense you like her but you avoid flirting while you wait for the ideal time and place to manifest itself, she'll get turned off. Rather you should express your flirtations gently, turning it up slowly like a dimmer switch. Play off of her responses and feedback. By setting the template, you're taking the lead and presenting HER the opportunity to flirt with YOU. Rather than waiting around for her to give you permission, you pres…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:21 AM
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This is the correct answer. The reason guys are asking these questions is because in western cultures people are being conditioned to believe that flirting is a switch you turn on and off to achieve a specific goal when desired and convenient, rather than a mode of being and self-expression. OP, there is no "appropriate" amount of time to wait. And if a girl can sense you like her but you avoid flirting while you wait for the ideal time and place to manifest itself, she'll get turned off. Rather…
/r/seduction08/08/20 11:20 AM
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If you're familiar with "The Boondocks," they actually did an episode about this very issue.
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:03 AM
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Exactly. 30 hookups doesn't mean much. The real power is in keeping them around, where they start pursuing you.
/r/seduction08/08/20 12:00 AM
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All this means is that he's found 30 girls that were willing to put out. It doesn't even necessarily mean he's good. You can make that happen easily if you're heavily involved in partying or drug scenes. Here's a secret: Most guys aren't limiting themselves to only 9s and 10s.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:57 PM
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This is the downside of dating people that know other people you know. The good news is - girls talk to their close friends, but they don't go blabbing about their sexual experiences with their co-workers at their work place. One, they're deathly afraid of looking like massive sluts and ruining their reputation doing shit like that. Two, if you can't get it up, it makes her insecure too. No girl wants people to know that a guy couldn't get it up for her. It makes them feel like they're unattract…
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:47 PM
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On a side note - this is why I'm even skeptical and distrusting of most straight men as well - I know how they think. This is also where women don't understand why their boyfriends don't want them hanging out with guys and assume it's them that we distrust.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:32 PM
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They're more sexually liberated than straight people are. Imagine if it was a straight man treating a woman driver like that?
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:27 PM
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So the people in prison are just generally rapey people inside or out? I'll buy that. So what we've concluded is that rapists will rape just about anything, regardless of gender. Do they still house gay people in general population or is that considered alternative living? I'm guessing it probably varies by institution.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:21 PM
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He's reaching to twist my words around and turn it into a sexism issue. Once you start raping dudes in prison, you're gay. Or at very least bisexual. It may be a direct result of isolation, but it's still male on male sex. Which was the crux of my whole point: men are raping each other more than they're raping women.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:14 PM
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Oh man, I've been getting the "you need to change your opinion" responses all day. Because they demand that I be tolerant of their beliefs and expereinces while being totally intolerant of all of my beliefs and expereinces in the process. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Yep, specialized treatment and equality are literally polar opposites. But what would I know about that? No matter what level of adversity I face I'm not allowed to be a victim in this society. I don't have that privilege.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:09 PM
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No, you're just looking for an excuse to go on a gay rights rant so you can call me a bigot and lecture me on political correctness. What I am implying is that there are more men raping each other than raping women. Take what you want from that.
/r/seduction07/08/20 10:56 PM
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When other girls acknowledge a girl's interest, that's about some of the most blatant choosing signals you're going to get. This girl is making it so damn obvious for you that other girls are noticing it and bringing it to your attention. This girl will probably just hand you the pussy in a decorative basket if you just show a little initiative with her.
/r/seduction07/08/20 10:21 PM
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What they don't realize is that being ripped and getting money REALLY helps. But you still have to have some level of inner game. You widen your options, and you can get away with more mistakes, but if you have no inner game at all then you're just a ripped dude with a lot of money that still can't talk to women.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:55 PM
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If you factor in all of the different prison systems, there's probably more gay rape in the United States than there is straight rape. Food for thought.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:41 PM
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I have known some gay people that were pretty chill. But anytime my intuition has told me something was really off about a dude's vibe, I'd straight up avoid him, then end up hearing about stories like what happened to you later on. It's funny because men get a terrible rap these days like we're the crux of all of society's problems, yet gay men get a pass on this as if they don't qualify as regular men. Then ironically this behavior is coming from the same people screaming for "equality." I've …
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:38 PM
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Flirting is hard to understand intellectually, it's one of those things you really have to experience and practice. I'm confused by "behaving like a dog to be sympathetic to girls?" What's this mean? I might be able to find some videos or something, but I don't have articles bookmarked or anything. Type "Casey zander flirting" into youtube and see what pops up. He teaches a very natural form of game. The fearless man is another solid resource. It's hard to find online content that isn't pick up.
/r/seduction07/08/20 07:24 PM
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Here's the thing man, I've had sex. With different types of women under different types of circumstances. I've experienced all the complex thoughts, feelings, and emotions that come with sex. You are speaking with speculation and conjecture because you haven't been there. And if you were truly comfortable with soliciting prostitution then you wouldn't be grasping for people to validate your choices over the internet.
/r/seduction07/08/20 07:15 PM
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My advice is that afterwards you will feel even shittier.
/r/seduction07/08/20 07:05 PM
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It's more nuanced than that, but you're thinking from the perspective of a guy. This stuff resonates with girls if you know what you're doing with it.
/r/seduction07/08/20 07:00 PM
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It's the part where you feel shitty about yourself after you've ejaculated because you paid a prostitue 200 bucks for 30 seconds of sex and now she wants you to leave. Rather that losing your virginity to a girl you like you lost it to a woman you paid, a woman that's fucked hundreds of men illegally, and you have to live with that for the rest of your life. And that's probably how you'll go about obtaining sex because that's the only way you ever learned how to get it. Why are you comfortable p…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:53 PM
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Fair enough. But feminine women aren't always the overly submissive type. Some of them are go getters as well. A dentist woman I know comes to mind here for me. It's not just confidence, it's also polarity. It appeals to her emotions on an intuitive and instinctual level.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:45 PM
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If I feel like I'm just as hot or hotter than she is, I expect atleast equal effort/investment in the relationship whether she exercises or not. And this is with naturally skinny girls, not women out of shape. Unhealthiness is also a red flag for things like depression and whatnot because those women often care less about their bodies than fit/healthy girls. Right? It's that hype the pick up guys push that women don't care about looks so they can sell their products to ugly men. You can't be ove…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:41 PM
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I'm a man. Of course I have a fetish for feminine women. You like your women masculine? If a guy is hot but he's a dick, girls acknowledge his looks and may even sleep with him but they don't like or respect him. If he has no social skills, they'll hang out with him but won't date him. A hot guy with a creepy vibe won't get far. I have so much better luck with women when I'm centered in my masculine energy, and I think I'm pretty average. Vibes and energy are huge with women because they feel ra…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:27 PM
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I don't understand man, something is really off here. If you have no standards, you're 23, you have friends, you have abs and shit. You should easily be able to pick up some fat chicks or girls with low self esteem at a bar or online. If you've never flirted that might be the problem, you might give off the vibe that you're clueless but desperate.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:18 PM
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I should add on that all of this goes out the window once she gets oneitis for you. Then it's a complete role reversal.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:14 PM
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It's not about what others will think of you, it's about what you'll think of yourself. Imagine the cringiest most empty post nut clarity times x100000000.
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:12 PM
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Women fetishize experienced men, men fetishize virginal women. This is why an abundance mindset makes you more attractive. You don't even have to have true abundance - so long as you appear to. Women have a natural abundance so it does nothing for us. The reason viginal men are a turn off for most women is because once she gets past her experimental phase, she wants a man that knows how to read a woman and touch her body. If she knows you get other women - you must be doing something right. Also…
/r/seduction07/08/20 06:06 PM
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I have the opposite problem. I just moved to a new town and all the women I've seen so far are all out of shape. I'm not ripped or rich but I'm fit so this is a real problem.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:56 PM
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Here's my cliff notes: Be authentically confident in yourself, be flirtatious and spark sexual tension, and be in your masculine energy at all times. Trust in your instincts and intuition as a man. Most guys are too nice to be flirty and sexual, too insecure to believe in themselves, act like the girl is doing them a favor by even acknowledging his presence, and they match her feminine energy. Don't do any of this. Flirting is more about the vibes, energy, and tone you bring rather than the spec…
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:53 PM
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Women have that visual animalistic attraction just like we do. But women are also opportunistic. She feels no instinct to "spread her seed" like we do. Her instincts are to get pregnant, ours are to impregnate. So she's looking for higher quality sex partners. Men are looking for variety.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:32 PM
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I don't think anyone here is ripped or rich. 10% of seduction is the guys that give advice, and most of us are probably pretty average, give or take. The other 90% of seduction is basically dudes that are virginal looking for advice.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:29 PM
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But here's the flipside: Imagine you were dating a swell woman in her 30s that was motivated, financially independent, and took good care of herself. She's basically a milf. But then you found out you had a shot with a 22 year old French model. You and I both know we'd drop the older more stable woman for the hotter younger one. Women will drop the hotter younger guy for the older money and status guy.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:24 PM
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Women are turned on by what other women want and what they can't have. Women also have the biological instinct to be protected and provided for. So if a man has money and status, even if he's ugly, he's powerful. His power can finance her lifestyle and he raises her status in the process.
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:14 PM
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They often are conventionally hot, but I meant energetically feminine. Have you ever been around a girl before and been like "wow, THAT'S a woman." Like you can feel her femininty engulf you like a magnetic field. These women have a gravitational pull. I meant to type masculine guys, but the masculine guys often are the hot ones that do well with girls. Have you ever seen a guy talk to a girl platonically like he doesn't care, yet she's all into it laughing overenthusiastically at his lameass jo…
/r/seduction07/08/20 05:06 PM
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Absolutely. It automatically cuts out all women that are above their healthy weight/BMI. If she's shorter than me and is anywhere near my weight, then you know it's body fat. It's also just the simple fact that our eating habits won't be compatible and she won't have the stamina to keep up with me in bed. You'll also be less likely to put up with shit test and games and bullshit from average girls because you know you have options.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:57 PM
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Like 1980s hair metal tight.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:48 PM
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In my experience, the more visually appealing you are, the less game you need. But if your game is really off or you lack basic social skills, it repels the girl even more because she had higher expectations. But girls get insecure around guys they think are more attractive than they are. But their biological desire to be protected and provided for is why they're attracted to men with status, regardless of whether or not they need money. It also increases her social status. I notice that most st…
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:45 PM
2

"Oh, hello sir, it's nice to see you back again."
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:27 PM
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Significant increase in attention + significant increase in self-confidence. It's like a feedback loop where they melt into each other as you continue to get in better shape, feel more confident, and get more attention. One caveat to this: People will start giving you looks, like other men as well, because now you have the stigma of being a "fit guy." Also, your standards for women will go up because you won't settle for a girl when you feel like you're hotter than she is.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:23 PM
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I'm with you here. I just wrote it that way because that's how OP phrased it. The major takeaway: Do it for yourself dude. Not the future pussy you don't even have yet.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:16 PM
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I just phrased it that way because that's how OP wrote it. I agree with you though. I personally have no interest in looking ripped, and it isn't worth the time or effort to me. I just try to stay lean and muscular. Greek statue shit.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:13 PM
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I actually find that women are just as visual as men, but their desire to be provided for outweighs that. As men, our desire to impregnate fertile women outweighs our desire for status, so we go visual, but status and money does make already attractive women more attractive. I think the one quality that translates both sexes is masculine and feminine energy. Average women literally become 10s when they're super feminine. And masculine guys always seem to have female orbiters.
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:09 PM
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Same here brother. My parents sheltered me, tried to control me. My father didn't teach me how to be a man, and my mother raised me to be a nice sweet boy. It was emasculating. I had to learn to develop my masculinity on my own.
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:04 PM
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No problem man. Breaking this pattern is hard to do and I want to help liberate men and women to express their natural energy. I'll also add that you may notice that men and women lose their natural masculine and feminine energies when they get hurt and accumulate baggage. That's why you'll notice when people are younger, especially if they have good childhoods, they'll naturally be very boyish or girly. Yet people who had traumatic experiences often tend to grow up to be masculine women or femi…
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:32 PM
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That's a really common problem because society has conditioned men to be more feminine and women to be more masculine. Just remember that it's not about being overly gentle or overly aggressive. It's about feeling the freedom to be a boy and express yourself as a boy and not apologizing for your manhood. It's not disrespectful towards women for us to express our masculinity. Even though they don't like to admit it, because they've been conditioned to believe that we're all the same, it's our mas…
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:42 PM
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Well you definitely want to be respectful towards women, but you want to act like a boy at the same time. This is where most guys go wrong. They try to match the girl's energy thinking it will make her more comfortable, but she wants her opposite. Think of it this way, would you be more comfortable around a girl that's gentle and feminine, or would you be attracted to a masculine tomboy type of woman? Opposites attract. That's why those ditsy girly girl types are usually dating hypermasculine ma…
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:08 PM
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It's not a mathematical equation, different girls are going to have different responses to different vibes and energies. Here's the cliff notes: Be authentically confident in yourself, be flirtatious and spark sexual tension, and be in your masculine energy at all times. Trust in your instincts and intuition as a man. Most guys are too nice to be flirty and sexual, too insecure to believe in themselves, act like the girl is doing them a favor by even acknowledging his presence, and they match he…
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:34 PM
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At your age you can be obvious about it. Take advantage of this.
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:13 PM
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It's not so much about the exact words you use, but the tone, vibe, and energy behind it. That's what women are paying attention to.
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:11 PM
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If you're 23, you have a wide circle of friends, and you exercise, then something is really off. Men are so weak these days it's easy to stand out if you have your life together. I'm guessing either your game is underdeveloped or you can't accurately gauge a woman's interest level. Or you're really picky.
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:58 AM
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Do not pay a prostitue man. This is not about purity or being a prude or breaking the law or any bullshit like that. This is about your goddamn self-respect as a man. Do you want to be the type of man that has to pay for pussy? Have you considered what that will do for your self-esteem, to realize that 99% of men out there getting laid did it on their own without having to pay a prostitute? I would rather you fuck an overweight alcoholic single mother on welfare than a prostitute. At least you k…
/r/seduction07/08/20 11:53 AM
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You shouldn't be getting ripped, getting rich, or reading books to approach women. You should be doing those things for yourself as a man. Being more attractive and approachable to women should merely be a byproduct of that work and improvement you've done for yourself.
/r/seduction07/08/20 09:44 AM
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Nice save there. Too fraudulent to stand behind the words you say.
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:09 AM
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See that's my point. I have been having a real conversation. You have strayed from the topic every single time trying to morph everything into some kind of abstract injustice towards transgenders. You clearly have an agenda your campaigning for and it's poisoned your objectivity. So now you want to isolate the "conversation?" Anything you have to say to me you can say it. I'm not foolish enough to message you for another self-righteous lecture on political correctness. The gender studies class l…
/r/seduction07/08/20 03:04 AM
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You need a different forum if you have canine related appraoch anxiety. This is for humam related approach anxiety.
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:53 AM
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At first I really thought you were trying to have an objective discussion here but I was somehow inadvertently offending you with my word choice. The truth is that this has nothing to do with my ability to be inclusive. The reality is that you're just so caught up with "trans issues" that we can't even have an objective conversation because you can't be objective. You relate everything back to transgenders like you have some weird hidden agenda. Everything in life doesn't have to revolve around …
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:48 AM
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It depends on how you look at it. Because all creatures carry both masculine and feminine energy (yin and yang if you will) this transcends beyond gender and gender equality. We're talking about energy here. And it relies on one to believe in the concept of energetic polarity. It can't be exclusive by default because it's applicable to all living creatures. And I don't think it's incorrect to suggest that most women want to be centered in their feminine energy while most men want to be centered …
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:27 AM
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The only transgender people I've known (like personally beyond a simple conversation) were all biologically men than want to be women. I found their preferences and proclivities to be so diverse between each of them that it's extremely difficult to be inclusive, which is part of why I said I just try to address people as individuals. I think you should consider that just because someone isn't necessarily being overly inclusive, it doesn't mean that they're being intentionally exclusive either. I…
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:57 AM
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You could interpret it that way, and I certainly don't blame you if you do choose to interpret it that way. I do believe that the issue exists, so we can definitely meet half way there. But my advice might not be applicable to people in that camp, it's too far outside of my frame of reference. I have dated some bi-sexual women, but I haven't found my advice to be any less applicable with them than straight women so far.
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:43 AM
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I guess I need to find a way to get better at transmuting that vibe to the women in my life then! Yeah, agreed. And I even find that most women are more receptive to men who own their unique weirdness and sense of expression rather than men that conform to the mainstream cultural standard.
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:08 AM
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I see that you're dead set on turning this into a transgender issue when it never was and never had to be that way. So with that in consideration, my advice is based on my life experiences as a straight man that dates straight women. Trans-people are welcome to take away whatever they want from that, be it positive or negative. I'm not here to tell people how to think or what to believe, but I also know the power of my advice based on the responses people give me, and what I've gone through to l…
/r/seduction07/08/20 01:03 AM
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My experience is that it relates much more to a woman's maturity and intelligence level than her age. I've met plenty of older women in their 30s and 40s that are extremely immature, unintelligent, and entitled. I've also met younger women that are smart, mature, and humble.
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:31 AM
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If you go back to the beginning and re-read these posts, you'll see that the original guy you responded to (who responded to my initial posts) claimed that women have a "biological need to be dominated," which you said "seemed off." I took the liberty to clarify what he meant by that, about how heterosexual men and women have millenniums of biological programming imprinted into our DNA that drives our behavior patterns. You were the only one who used the term "gender" and equated this to a gende…
/r/seduction07/08/20 12:21 AM
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Honestly, I don't see why you chose to edit this. I thought your intital response was on point and I agreed with it. I was going to commend you for standing up for the little guy without trying to take me down for expressing myself in the process. I still don't understand why you're making this into a trans-people issue. It never was about that and still isn't about that. Me expressing my thoughts and giving dating advice is not some abstract injustice towards trans-people. But regardless it was…
/r/seduction06/08/20 11:27 PM
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Okay, I appreciate your response, but I'll admit that I have no idea what you're getting at here. The salesperson and client example is applicable in the sense that the salesperson is the one leading the interaction. The salesperson is usually trying to appeal to the client. Some sales people just have no sense of authority and yeah this dynamic is reversed with limited specialized products and markets but it's a general analogy. I said I have been approached by straight women and I AM a fan of …
/r/seduction06/08/20 11:11 PM
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My opinion is that I shouldn't have to say it. This is a cold appraoch question in a seduction forum. Anyone who wants to join in and give feedback and feel inclusive is more than welcome as far as I'm concerned, but I'm also not going to edit everything I write to be as PC inclusive as possible. I just don't see this as a men's rights issue. But just like LGBT should have the right to express their thoughts and preferences however they see fit in a safe community, so should straight heterosexua…
/r/seduction06/08/20 10:45 PM
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Great response! I think this is a great appraoch, at least for me because I don't believe in the concept of casual sex and at least want some form of connection involved even if there's no comittment. I like that you took into consideration that the guy is as much of an individual as the girl, as is his sense of expression. Most dating advice, even dating advice written by men, seems to ride with the supposition that most men are basically all the same.
/r/seduction06/08/20 10:21 PM
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Okay, let's look at it this way then: I'm not being inclusive. My advice was strictly directed towards heterosexual men who want to seduce heterosexual women. We don't need to get into a gender diversity discussion because it's not applicable here. I'm sure this probably offends you, and I don't mean it that way at all, I'm just putting it bluntly to get my intentions across. I wouldn't go onto a forum with a dating topic asking advice for LGBT people and tell them that they need to be more incl…
/r/seduction06/08/20 10:10 PM
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Absolutely. Just like when a salesperson approaches a potential client, the salesperson is in the dominant role and the client is in the submissive role. This isn't a gender equality issue, this is just basic human social dynamics. People just get uptight about the words "dominance" and "submission" and turn it into a PC-gender issue. I've actually been approached by straight women before and I'm a fan of it. In my experience though, they don't even want to be in the dominant role. They resent i…
/r/seduction06/08/20 09:50 PM
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It's not so much about ignoring women, that kind of falls into the territory of being fake and playing games. It's more about being strategic with your time, giving her space to wonder about you, being spontaneous and unpredictable, and making yourself scarce so she values the time you give her. These things provide girls with excitement and emotional highs. If you just ignore girls without these other qualities, it's going to back fire on you dude.
/r/seduction06/08/20 05:09 AM
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Look at it this way: When a man approaches a woman, he is in the dominant position and she is in the submissive position. He is penetrating, she is recieving. He is playing offense, she is playing defense. When he asks her out, he is the dom and she is the sub. When he picks the venue, he is the dom and she is the sub. When he takes her hand and walks her to the car, he is the dom and she is the sub. When he pays for the date he is the dom and she is the sub. When he goes for the kiss, he is the…
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:46 AM
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I don't think that anything you described here is "masculine behavior" There's absolutely nothing toxic about true masculine or feminine behavior. Only people that are toxic, which really has very little to do with their gender. Frankly all the things you've described come as common sense to me. I didn't realize I was a rare breed. What I think it comes down to is having presence and empathy for your sex partners. If a man does all those things you described, it says more about him as an individ…
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:39 AM
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The root of the issue is that very powerful people in the media industry are using their platforms to push these agendas. Then the cattle just line up for the slaughter.
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:19 AM
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I think many men would be ecstatic to approach women with the intent of sex while being totally forthright and honest about their desires. The problem with this philosophy is that it doesn't work. The only women that respond well to the open solicitation of sex are usually prostitutes.
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:16 AM
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I want to confirm this as well since you're getting irrationally downvoted. People who have never worked in media just don't understand. And often some of the people who do work in media are so wrapped up in it they don't see it either.
/r/seduction06/08/20 04:06 AM
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Personally I had very little success with women when I was a more passive and submissive guy. It never ended positively. I also don't buy into the whole "alpha and beta" nonsense just because that's become culturally popular on the internet over the last decade. What I'm talking about here is millenniums of biological programming that's literally imprinted into our DNA. This far transcends any modern social construct. I do however appreaciate the points you're making. I agree that there's certai…
/r/seduction06/08/20 03:59 AM
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Most of the dating advice I give here is pretty straight forward in the sense that it's basically applicable to all women. This one is a bit trickier in that regard. First off, you need to start expressing your masculine sexuality by yourself. You can't just turn it on suddenly cause a girl came around. You need to get comfortable with it because if you aren't comfortable with it first and foremost, she definitely won't be either. With women, this is one of those things where empathy comes in ha…
/r/seduction06/08/20 03:46 AM
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He means that she needs the man to stand up and be present and take the lead. She needs you to be the dominant leader in the interaction so she can be the submissive follower. This dynamic will also translate to the bedroom. You have to penetrate her mentally and emotionally before she'll let you penetrate her physically.
/r/seduction06/08/20 03:29 AM
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I think the problem here is that the guys who are being totally normal think they're being creepy, and the small amount of guys that actually are creepy think they're being normal. I'm not even talking about approaching though. It's almost like men don't feel the freedom to express their masculinity or sexuality when women are around in general. Like they have to neuter themselves. I think most men know when it's time to walk away. What I'm talking about is more of this nice-guy-I'm-harmless-let…
/r/seduction06/08/20 02:58 AM
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Thanks for the detailed response man, this is what I was hoping for. So it sounds like to me you're very confident in expressing your masculine sexuality, it sounds like you're expressing it in a very honest and direct way (rather than a taboo, forbidden, or shameful way) like you would discuss any other topic. That level of comfort and acceptance of sexuality is probably really attractive to the girls you date because it gives them permission to express their own sexuality without feeling like …
/r/seduction06/08/20 02:39 AM
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And all these years I thought I was average, yet I'm actually hotter than the sexiest man alive as dubbed by People Magazine. Never saw that one coming.
/r/seduction06/08/20 02:06 AM
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This is really counterintuitive but it helps to just be honest and talk about it. Tell your close friends and family so you get more comfortable with it. Pick people who aren't going to judge you. I had these problems really bad when I was a adolescent. My doctor put me on two different perscriptions and I had to see a therapist. I also had a really judgemental family environment that stigmatized me and made me feel even more ashamed of myself. It all became my dirty secret I hid from everyone a…
/r/seduction05/08/20 05:55 PM
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This is solid advice. You're describing a very natural form of game, which has always worked way better for me than the robotic pick up shit peddled around here. What do you usually do to establish that your friends with benefits relationships will also involve passion and intimacy? I prefer to convey that as an expectation on both ends, rather than a "let's just use each other for sex" vibe.
/r/seduction05/08/20 05:38 PM
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I know this is a joke, but it really needs to be said. Like some dudes needs this hammered into their skull. Some of my friends literally believe that they need a woman's permission for them to even express a semblance of their masculine sexuality. Which is really great for the feminist types that hate us, but this is problematic for the rest of man-and-womankind, because women need us to express our masculine sexuality for them to even feel attraction in the first place. This is literally where…
/r/seduction05/08/20 05:21 PM
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I had traumatic experiences throughout childhood and adolescence. Basically went from no self-image to a poor self-image as I grew. It's been a long journey overcoming this. I think it definitely complicates emotional maturity and emotional intelligence, and I'd say it's probably pretty accurate that in the US 83% to 90% of people carry some sort of repressed traumas. It's interesting that you mention that, because I'm also a very empathetic person and an active listener. These are two of my maj…
/r/seduction05/08/20 12:11 PM
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Can you describe your approaches or how you usually initiate contact? It would be much better to give you my informed persepctive rather than general advice.
/r/seduction05/08/20 11:53 AM
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That's what scares me, it doesn't matter whether how many partners a girl has had or how sexually adventurous she is. And you can't expect them to warn you that they have it because often they don't even know. It just seems like the only way to truly stay safe is abstinence, which I really hate to acknowledge. Plus condoms don't really help with kissing/oral/handjobs/fingering.
/r/seduction05/08/20 08:28 AM
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I thought HIV wasn't transferred orally, which is why they say you can still kiss people with AIDS? I thought I was well informed on STDs, but it seems like the risks are even worse than I thought... So is oral sex with cling wrap/condoms on the only preventative here? Because that sounds really weird and I wasn't aware that people really did that.
/r/seduction04/08/20 02:14 PM
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Gradually eat better food and quit eating bad food. Go for walks. Do 10 push ups. Do 5 if 10 is too hard. Do 1, that's a start. Do the most basic exercise possible. Step up self-care a notch or too. Pick one thing about yourself you want to improve on and work on it. Add a new piece to your wardrobe. If you're energy is this low, you probably don't need to be dating. Girls are going to expect you to have some energy.
/r/seduction04/08/20 01:41 PM
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Just cut them off bro.
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:56 PM
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They know their expiration date is creeping up.
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:42 PM
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It sounds like you feel like you have to entertain girls or these girls expect you to entertain them. You should focus more on expressing yourself and building a connection. Remember, all she is is a pretty face until she proves herself otherwise. Men have really messed up dating because most have no standards so women have an inflated sense of value. Anyone can practice nutrition, fitness, self-care, and self-improvement. The hard part is learning what changes you need to make and how to do. Yo…
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:35 PM
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You need balance. Give her the best of both words by being both a bad boy and a gentlemen. This unpredictability is seriously sublime stuff to women. One day make sweet passionate love down by the fire. Revel in the intimacy. The next day, fuck her like an animal. Revel in the perversion. Women love this stuff, it's exciting for them.
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:21 PM
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What did you use to do that you aren't doing now? If you've had women in the past, you can do it again. If you had a date every weekend, then you can talk to women, and probably pretty well, so that's nonsense. As for depression, it's cliche for a reason, diet and exercise really can do wonders. I have insomnia, but I feel so much better when my sleep is in check. I'm also a big believer in self-care and self-improvement. Women can sense when a dude takes good care of himself and is actively imp…
/r/seduction04/08/20 12:15 PM
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I'm just messing with you because this really isn't appropriate for seduction bro. Also realize that most skinny legs are normal, even athletic people struggle with the leg gains.
/r/seduction04/08/20 11:14 AM
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Yep. You might as well be a giraffe.
/r/seduction04/08/20 11:11 AM
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In my experience, when women are being friendly, they normally just smile like a normal person. When it's a choosing signal, it's usually some obnoxiously overzealous smile like they're a damn anime cartoon character.
/r/seduction04/08/20 11:09 AM
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That's fake shit. The male equivalent of playing games. Don't do any of that. You want to be available enough for her to enjoy you and appreciate you and connect with you, but you also want to be unavailable enough that she doesn't know where she stands with you and doesn't take you for granted. You want to be a bit of a mystery for her to wonder about and look forward to. You want to provide he with an emotional experience. This is key. Let her unravel you like a rubix cube. Personally I find i…
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:13 AM
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Unfortunately I think this bleak picture is fairly accurate, based on how I used to behave, and how I've seen other men behave throughout my life. I think mental health for young men is steadily decreasing as the years go by and most likely at an all time high for my lifetime. I'm 28, and I wouldn't say my journey is complete yet, but I'm constantly learning and improving. However my journey began as a teenager. I was painfully unaware growing up. I wasn't exactly aware that I was unaware, but I…
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:01 AM
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Is HPV the only disease you risk contracting orally?
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:23 AM
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"Slut slammed" LOL
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:21 AM
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My high school sex ed teacher introduced himself to the class as a "born again virgin." He said he only had sex one time and immensely regretted it and regained his virginity by repenting for his mistake and saving others through his sexual education work. As a teenager you just accept things as they are, but looking back as an adult, I have a real problem with this. He enforced the abstinence only policy as well.
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:17 AM
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So what are the best ways to keep ourselves safe (as men) and reduce the risk of contracting this variety?
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:10 AM
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It's because confidence is directly correlated with your success levels in everything that you do in life, which includes dating. You shouldn't need to take a seduction course to learn that. They should be teaching it to children in public schools, but they don't. The reason confidence is so vague is because it has to be developed individually. Most people don't actually develop a healthy sense of confidence, which is why a very average concept seems ao elusive.
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:06 AM
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So you basically approached an underage girl then approached that underage girl's other friends? This really sucks, but it was an unknown unknown. Perhaps next time try and be more aware of your surroundings and environment. Try to look for signals and body language cues so you can pick up on which girls are open to being approached and would genuinely be interested in meeting you. Honestly if I was a teenage girl I'd be pretty off-put by an older guy that approached me then approached my friend…
/r/seduction04/08/20 02:46 AM
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I would agree that the majority of adult males are not self-aware which is a leading contributing factor towards settling. Self-aware men tend to recognize the difference between love and lust. Not in the poetic sense, but in the sense that a self-aware man can differentiate between his attraction level to a woman because she's a sexual opportunity versus him actually liking her for her. Most men these days are low self-esteem, low self-confidence, and low self-awareness, yet highly sex focused.…
/r/seduction04/08/20 02:00 AM
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Dopamine.
/r/seduction04/08/20 01:24 AM
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Wouldn't herpes qualify as one of the rising diseases that's transferred orally though? I mean, even if he sleeps with a girl that has herpes and uses a condom, won't he get it from kissing/oral/fingering before he ever even penetrates her?
/r/seduction04/08/20 01:22 AM
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Then you should realize that it's much different than dating girls your own age.
/r/seduction03/08/20 03:45 PM
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It's not a "problem," but the scenarios are different. Do you have any experience dating older women? It's not as simple as compatibility.
/r/seduction03/08/20 03:42 PM
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It can be counterproductive, but it doesn't have to be. What I've noticed is that people who have fulfilling sex lives tend to have a better balance between their purpose and goals and the pursuit of sexual opportunity. What you should do is use this energy and desire to propel yourself forward in life, which coincidentally usually results in more sexual opportunity anyway because you become more attractive and have more to offer. Sex shouldn't be an endgame and you should plan your life around …
/r/seduction03/08/20 03:30 PM
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Lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 03:11 PM
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Dude. Lol. Trust me. Lol. I'm chill. Lol. I obviously struck a cord with you with my supposedly aggrandizing statements. Lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 03:09 PM
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Condoms will pretty much have you covered when it comes to penetrative sex. I think the biggest concern is diseases that can be transferred orally. I saw a commercial that claimed these were becoming progressively more common. Whether that's true or not I have no idea.
/r/seduction03/08/20 02:45 PM
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This is a different scenario. Younger women and older men is fairly common. Younger men with older women is seen as more taboo.
/r/seduction03/08/20 02:41 PM
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Yeah, it is. It's a reference to something you're probably ignorant towards. Enjoy jerking yourself off trolling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 02:31 PM
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I find this to be true, most people just aren't aware of it. From career choice, to clothing choice, to hobbies and activities, to materialistic wants...most of it relates to creating better sexual opportunity whether directly or indirectly. You should look into sexual transmutation. It's the philosophy of cultivating sexual energy and using it for higher purposes.
/r/seduction03/08/20 11:33 AM
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Rather than have a relationship talk or put her on the spot, I would just hint at it. Drop hints that you want to level up. I know it's stupid but girls prefer when you're capable of communicating this way. She'll catch on and address it eventually.
/r/seduction03/08/20 10:33 AM
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It sounds like you're really good at identifying what's attractive about other men but you aren't very good at identifying what's attractive about yourself. It's called insecurities and we all have them, but you should avoid sizing yourself up to other men - that's the root of your issue here. I think Jordan Peterson says something like "Don't compare yourself to who someone else is today, compare yourself to who you were yesterday." Do this instead. No good will come from comparing yourself to …
/r/seduction03/08/20 10:02 AM
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No, not really. "Aggrandizing" is an absurd word choice here, and you know nothing about me or how objective and intuitive I am. Honestly I was trying to balance being polite with being honest because everyone gets offended when straight people discuss these subjects. I described my intuition to give the benefit of doubt. But I'll put it bluntly for you this time. Transgender people stick out like a sore thumb. It's beyond obvious to me and most people I know who know transgender people as well.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 09:36 AM
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I overlooked it at 18 as well. Most men do. In fact, most men in their 20s, 30s, and 40s will likely overlook this as well. A pick up lieftyle appears much more glamourous than a self improvement lifestyle.
/r/seduction31/07/20 11:03 PM
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This is how smooth guys think. It's not really even cold approach at this point, it's just talking to girls and creating opportunities. Have you been doing this with masks on, or do you live somewhere that's normal now?
/r/seduction31/07/20 10:41 PM
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This is the best advice we could give to an 18-year-old guy, and sadly it will be the most overlooked piece of advice posted here.
/r/seduction31/07/20 10:02 PM
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A lot of average girls are very beautiful in unique or quirky ways that make them stand out to me. My favorite girls are the above-average types, too imperfect to be a model but too perfect to be average. They're perfectly imperfect.
/r/seduction31/07/20 09:54 PM
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But again, the only reason those issues exists is because most men are such losers they're willing to tolerate or even encourage that behvaior if there's sex involved. Dating is inherently manipulative to some degree, but bartering money or material goods for sex is like the lowest form of manipulation, and many men and women go that route because deep down on a subconscious level they know they really don't have much else to offer.
/r/seduction31/07/20 08:10 PM
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This is a solid post man. Sadly many guys will go down this path of settling. Settling for a girl, settling for porn, settling for involuntary celibacy, or settling for an unfulfilling romantic and sex life. I'm not going to get all mushy on you guys, but I'm going to tell you something I heard my self-improvement coach say once that nobody ever said to me before. "You deserve to date the type of women you want, you deserve to have the relationships you want, and you deserve to have the sex life…
/r/seduction31/07/20 02:51 AM
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I don't know who TS is, but that's basically what we're saying: Improve yourself and make yourself accessible to women. Find the ones that display mutual attraction and seduce them. Most of these guy we're referring to are trying to skip the self-improvement phase and the attraction phase and basically just panhandle women for pussy.
/r/seduction30/07/20 09:46 PM
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The difference is that those guys think as long as they have the text game down, they don't have to actually be high value. They're selling themselves short as well as the women they want.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm kind of a maverick and even I find this stuff well beyond the threshold of cringe.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:07 PM
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The introspection and reflection on the experience is where the real growth and improvement comes from. It's invaluable. The number of approaches is irrelevant, as is the number of lays. Quantity does not equal quality.
/r/seduction30/07/20 05:16 PM
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You don't control the frame, you polarize her feminine frame with your masculine frame.
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:55 PM
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That's kind of a broad question, but these are the core things to remember: Be authentically confident in yourself, be flirtatious and spark sexual tension, and be in your masculine energy at all times. Most guys are too nice to be flirty and sexual, too insecure to believe in themselves, act like the girl is doing them a favor by even acknowledging his presence, and they match her feminine energy. Don't do any of this. Flirting is more about the vibes, energy, and tone you bring rather than the…
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:53 PM
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Been saying this from day one. Finally glad to see someone else who understands. Seduction is an artform, not a fucking "numbers game."
/r/seduction30/07/20 02:42 PM
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I think this is a pretty common guy thing. We feel like we have to impress the girl and make her like us, because we come from a frame that she probably doesn't like us so we have to prove how great we are. This isn't what girls really want though. She doesn't want you to go out of your way to impress her and make her like you. The fact that she's even there means she's at least intrigued, so come at it with the frame "of course she likes me." When you try to impress her, you aren't allowing her…
/r/seduction30/07/20 11:18 AM
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She's a dwelling place for demons bro.
/r/seduction30/07/20 11:00 AM
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Look I'm not judging you for this, but I love hearing stories like this from women, about the creepy shit they've done over their infatuations with guys. I think it's cool because it shows that being creepy-level attracted to someone is just part of being human sometimes. We've all done something weird over a girl or a guy before.
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:23 AM
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You don't understand how this works. This has more to do with women not respecting their boyfriends than men not respecting other men. Most women keep their options open for better opportunities. Many women aren't above seeing multiple men at a time, especially if they aren't comitted yet or are in a new relationship. Some of these girls will often hide the fact that they even have a boyfriend. My moral obligation is not to cheat on my girlfriend. That's it. Some of the girls I helped cheat didn…
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:14 AM
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You don't understand how this works. This has more to do with women not respecting their boyfriends than men not respecting other men. Most women keep their options open for better opportunities. Many women aren't above seeing multiple men at a time, especially if they aren't comitted yet or are in a new relationship. Some of these girls will often hide the fact that they even have a boyfriend. My moral obligation is not to cheat on my girlfriend. That's it. Some of the girls I helped cheat didn…
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:12 AM
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Women are cool with these arrangements until suddenly they aren't cool with it. Many women feel entitled to attention/relationships in the exact same way that they complain men feel entitled to sex.
/r/seduction30/07/20 09:52 AM
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If personal growth and development makes a man a 10, then that would mean I'm a straight up 10 now because that's how I've spent most of my time over the past few years. It's been a long journey. Sadly my looks don't match up with the lifestyle/mentality.
/r/seduction30/07/20 09:42 AM
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See that's the problem with the mindset most men have. They think if they can't attract 100% of women therefore they aren't attractive by default. Not all women are going to be attracted to you just like you're not going to be attracted to all women. Becoming as attractive as possible is a good strategy. You should do that. It creates more options. But even then the real skill is finding women you're attracted to that are also attracted to you, and recognizing those opportunities and capitalizin…
/r/seduction30/07/20 09:34 AM
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There's a delicate balance between being present at all the right times and being aloof at all the right times. If you want to inspire someone to chase you then you have to provide enough incentive first.
/r/seduction29/07/20 01:30 PM
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I say this all the time. There's either attraction or there isn't. If I'm not attracted to a girl then no amount of game, persuasion, manipulation, strategy, or technique is going to change that. What all this stuff does do is vastly improve your seduction provided attraction is present.
/r/seduction29/07/20 01:01 PM
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The thrill for her in this is being with a younger, healthier, less mature man. You don't have to do anything special, just act like a 23-year-old. That's what she wants. Older women are more aggressive, so be aware of your boundaries and enforce them if necessary.
/r/seduction29/07/20 12:49 PM
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Out of all the seduction advice I give, as simple as this is, it really is one of the foundational pillars of my game. The key is to be engaged in the conversation, listen to everything she says sincerely and retain that information. But more importantly, observe her actions, behavior, and her body language. Take note of the idiosyncricies and disconnections between word and action. With some women the array of difference can be astounding. Bonus tip: I got sick of being shit tested by girls whe…
/r/seduction29/07/20 12:03 PM
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This is very real. I don't think most of us guys truly realize how sexual most girls really are. I've had situations like this "just happen" as well. What's worse is that I can look back on all the countless subtle hints and signals I've gotten from girls in the past that I missed out on. Stuff that flew over my head when I was younger, but is so obvious to me in hindsight. If I was just more aware and observant and trusted my instincts and intuition, I very well probably could have fucked a lar…
/r/seduction29/07/20 02:19 AM
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Interesting. I'll give you my thoughts on this. I wouldn't put too much stock into the drink thing because I think that's pretty relative to a man's income level and personal habits. I've more or less quit drinking and lost all interest in it. I have no interest in paying 12 bucks for I drink in a bar I wouldn't have paid 3 bucks for at the liquor store. So when I meet a girl, I don't want to set a precedent of drinking/partying. I also think it's a weak move, like saying "my company isn't good …
/r/seduction29/07/20 01:21 AM
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You're lucky, my parents didn't teach me anything about women, game, or manipulation. I think my dad is too clueless to even know enough to teach it, and my mother really wants me to get married and give her grandchildren, so telling me this kind of stuff would be a detriment to her goals. I'm entirely self-taught. I do think what you're touching on is an energetic/intuitive thing for women though. I think they can sense which guys are the passionate-sexual types they can safely open up with. I …
/r/seduction29/07/20 12:45 AM
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So fraternizing with the enemy then? Sneaky! I'm not a fan of one night stands either, unless there's some logistical reason, like I met a girl on vacation or something. I prefer long term partners. So I'm intrigued, can you spot the difference between a man that is genuinely interested in you vs a man that just wants to pick you up? What signs do you look out for?
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:21 PM
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I guess I think of seduction as more of a philosophy than anything. I haven't been with 100 girls and I don't try to seduce girls regularly. I pretty much only try to seduce the girls I really like. And frankly many of the girls I've been with have had a lot more partners than me, which is a big turn off for guys as well. I want to feel special too, like we had a good connection and I'm so smooth she just had to have me, rather than simply landing a girl that dates around a lot. So I definitely …
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:49 PM
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I wonder how many impressionable children this song influenced during the 2000s. I mean, we are in seduction after all, right?
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:27 PM
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I would actually agree with you on this. A girl that picks up a lot of guys is equally a big turn off for me as well. But also realize that not all seduction is pick up. Many men just want to learn to be better lovers and seducers so they can be more attractive to the girls they genuinely do like. Most women prefer a man who knows what he's doing.
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:57 PM
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What's absolutely despicable is that these two people sealed deal on their marriage with revenge/retaliaition sex with strangers, which might honestly qualify as a form of sexual abuse, or at very least spiritual abuse. And the woman here had absolutely no regard for how this affected the man she used. This is common. Some of the girls that have used me for sex were in quasi-open relationships with vague boundaries and wanted to even the playing field with their boyfriends. The difference here i…
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:41 PM
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I think the advice here is be aware of your own value as well as the value of the random girls you stick your penis inside of.
/r/seduction28/07/20 11:47 AM
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I don't think this is you being out of touch with the times, I think it's more so a case of teenagers repeating something they heard someone else say or saw on the internet and they're misusing the termanology. Young people do this pretty regularly. I even saw people doing this in college. Funny story: I was 11-years-old when the 50 Cent song "P.I.M.P." came out. Keep in mind that I was a white kid growing up in Tennessee at the time. I started telling people that I was a pimp because "I wear co…
/r/seduction28/07/20 11:23 AM
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I don't make videos. Might pursue that in the near future, but right now I'm just trying to help others learn and improve in my spare time. Masculine intuition is using your instincts and intuition as a man to read a woman's behavior, polarize her attraction, and put her in her feminine energy. You do this by staying centered in your masculine energy, leading the interaction, and sparking sexual tension. You want to flirt and touch her enough to turn her on without overdoing it. Most men do too …
/r/seduction28/07/20 10:52 AM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Most people are as shallow as they can afford to be. Women treat men differently when you have looks, money, or status. Men treat women differently when they have looks, sex appeal, youth, or feminine charm. I've actually dated a lot of "average girls," and have had amazing relationships with some of them. But I could have been the ideal boyfriend to all the "hot girls" that never noticed me or gave me the same chance.
/r/seduction28/07/20 10:25 AM
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You're missing the point we're making here. He's saying that once the 9s and 10s found out how rich and successful he was, their attitude towards him totally changed. He instantly became relationship material when only moments ago he was only hookup material. This is literally the definition of shallow. And just to keep it 100, men do this too, we just don't really care about money and status. But believe me when I say an average girl can hit the gym, get on a diet, revamp her style, get a make …
/r/seduction28/07/20 09:54 AM
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It's not just marriage, I wouldn't tolerate a girlfriend cheating on me in a relationship either. But I do have a feeling that marriage rates are going to hit an all time low over the next decade. Another Dave Chappelle quote that just came to mind: "Chivalry is dead. And women killed it." Lol.
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:15 AM
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This exactly what I'm talking about. She views her husband as her romantic/financial provider while she viewed you as dick-her-down-Dudley. What shocks me is how many women will put their relationships on the line just to get some dick. Don't let that nice girl persona fool you. Yet I still see men trying to lock down girlfriends when women would rather play the field. Yet we were always taught it was the other way around. Dave Chappelle also addressed this once in a stand up where he talks abou…
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:03 AM
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That's because those are like the top 5% of women and most men would do anything to be with a girl like that. And we recognize those girls when we see them and they usually get scooped up and engaged or married by their early 20s by guys that are on a similar level.
/r/seduction28/07/20 06:46 AM
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Interesting. I'll throw in that I'm not a 9 or a 10, I'm not rich, I don't have a high powered career, I'm 5'9, and I've never dated a model. I used to be a geeky mega-depressed pothead and a general part-time fuck up. Far from Chad. And I allow women to believe that I'm a broke college graduate and that I'm a frugal non-materialistic person (this is actually true). What I don't tell them is that I'm also completely debt free, most of my money/savings are in investment accounts so I'm saving for…
/r/seduction28/07/20 06:20 AM
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Every aspect of media and modern culture is being watered down to purely image focused. Rather than actually living life, people are creating an image of their ideal life, and it's destroying the culture. If a woman spends all her time going shopping, consuming food/drinks/media, taking selfies, checking her 18 different social media accounts and dating apps, and spends the weekend drinking and clubbing, she's low value. No question about it. She's literally no different than the guys who spend …
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:09 AM
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It could be that, but in my experience girls don't really date orbiters unless they get broken up with. When a girl breaks up with a guy, it usually bacause she met another guy who presented himself as an option. Most girls are the type to talk to other guys in this sense. This is what OP referred to when he said if you date hot girls, you have to deal with guys trying to steal your girlfriend all the time.
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:54 AM
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In my experience, a guy will fall into one of five categories with a woman. The side guy, boy toy, friends with benefits, fuck buddy. You're attractive and you have sex appeal but you aren't a provider. Mutual attraction. The orbiter/white knight. You have the provider energy and offer her lots of attention, but you lack sex appeal and she isn't attracted to you. One sided attraction (male). The boyfriend. She's attracted to you, sees you as a provider, and you have some level of sex appeal. You…
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:46 AM
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I was actually just talking about this to someone earlier. A lot of those really hot girls never developed a personality because they coasted on their looks their whole life. Even though they are physically stunning, personality-wise, they're actually pretty low value. And keep in mind that media is warpping women's minds further compounding this issue. The highest value women are the ones that are gorgeous and by some miracle either don't realize it or don't define themselves by it. So they act…
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:25 AM
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Remember that most girls are never really single in the true sense. They usually stick around until they find the new guy. And even then they have orbiters. Realistically she probably started talking to this guy before you broke up.
/r/seduction28/07/20 03:14 AM
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I just reread my post and I never used the term "hot women." If you're referencing OP's use of the term, he's using it as a euphemism to describe women that are above averge in looks and high in demand by men. Hot is also going to be subjective based on the guy who says it. There are women that pretty much all men objectively agree are hot, and then there's women that certain men will find particularly hot. And that includes a lot of different factors depending on what he likes. Most women that …
/r/seduction28/07/20 02:54 AM
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That's usually how it happens. It's not your fault, it it's not an issue of being good enough. Her actions were entirely self-motivated and your emotions were collateral damage to her. But a woman's reputation reigns supreme in her world, so she has to hide you from her friends, family, and especially her boyfriend, who probably still believes his girl would never do something like this. Also keep in mind that if you're a hot guy (and you may not realize that you are) or you have strong game, ba…
/r/seduction28/07/20 02:44 AM
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Somehow I started recognizing this as a teenager. I'm not sure what it is about me or my energy, but I've had far more women view me as the side guy than the boyfriend. Things like this happen a lot, and you wouldn't even expect it because most women will only reveal this side of themselves to very particular guys. I want to elaborate on the part about women indulging in their needs. Keep in mind most girls have been reading comsos and watching chick flicks and all this kind of stuff from a very…
/r/seduction28/07/20 02:27 AM
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Ideally you should start with indirect flirting and steadily progess it and become more direct. In my experience women respond best to strong indirect flirting with a little physical escalation mixed in. If you're authentically confident and you have the masculine intuition to pull this off, you'll be golden.
/r/seduction28/07/20 01:52 AM
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Once you elevate yourself to this level the tables will start to turn. Other men will be intimidated by you, you'll have lots of women giving you attention and trying to steal you from your girlfriend, you'll be flirting all the time, your girlfriend will be the quivering insecure wreck, and you'll constantly be reassuring her that you "just get along better with girls for some reason."
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:53 AM
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I somewhat agree, but what a lot of guys don't realize is that women will go to different types of men to fulfill different needs. It certainly helps if you have hobbies, passions, and education, but some women will stereotype you as a boy toy and bad relationship material if you have solid game and are too sexually exciting/experienced. They'll happily cheat on their boyfriends or jump into friends with benefits relationships with you, but if you start talking boyfriend/girlfriend, they'll run …
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:42 AM
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This has been my experience too, which is ironic seeing as many of the high profile dating coaches that pick up artists follow have publicly stated that self-improvement is the truest form of game a man can have.
/r/seduction27/07/20 02:53 AM
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Yeah, I know, you think you have me all figured out. Look at it this way: You used "we" and "us" as euphemisms to speak on the behalf of all women. You used "you" as a euphemism to generalize the behaviors of all men. You referred to a man getting something out of HIS car in front of his OWN house as "harassing us or lurking at us," after he saw a girl he liked and tried to approach her. I already explained to him why his behavior was creepy and inappropriate, he's learned from his mistake and w…
/r/seduction27/07/20 12:38 AM
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Looks like we found the fear stricken sexist. It used to be a social norm for people to approach each other and have conversations with each other, day or night, regardless of gender. There's not less fear to talk about it, there's just more fear in general. People are more scared of each other now that ever before. Whether you're convinced of this or not it's the truth.
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:44 PM
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Just seems like this all went over your head, but I'm glad you find it so amusing that you're laughing your ass off about it.
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:40 PM
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Hey man, I see you're taking a lot of criticism for this. I'm a big fan of what Casey teaches, and I basically combine his style self-improvement game with my own dating successes and life experiences, and these two elements create the foundation of the advice I give. Many of the people here aren't interested in this kind of advice. They are so wrapped up in the pick up illusion that this kind of stuff just doesn't resonate with them. This form of game is about being seductive and attractive, ra…
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:35 PM
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I never said it was a justification or a good way to think. I said it was considered normal behavior back then, but it's not considered normal behavior now. Just because something is outdated doesn't mean it's bad. Just because something is current doesn't mean it's good either. But it does mean that many people will have to catch up to the new standards. And a few decades from now, everyone will look back on the current cultural standards of 2020 as obsolete and outdated, so really it's all rel…
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:28 AM
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You speak your truth and hope that it resonates with her too. If it doesn't - fuck her. Do you really want to be in a relationship where you're constantly walking on a tightrope between creepy and simpish? Because the closer you get to someone the deeper the conversations get and the more you have to face the tension.
/r/seduction26/07/20 07:09 AM
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There's two angles to this you need to remember. One is that this was a bad way to appraoch a woman, but you realized that and you learned from it. Do not beat yourself up for being a "creep." You simply made a mistake. Two is that a few decades ago this probably wouldn't have been a big deal, but between coronavirus, political correctness, feminism, sexual harassment in the media, and all the other fearmongerering going on, people are more afraid of each other and suspicious of each other than …
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:49 AM
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The creepy part is you wanting to "slide in," like it's some low key shit she won't pick up on. Realize that hot girls are getting messages from guys trying to hit on them every single day, they've seen it all. The main reason most men choose to "slide in" is because of fear of rejection anyway. If you were 100% confident you would go for what you want without fearing the outcome. All the other guys are "sliding in," so you want to something different by standing out. The suggestion to respond t…
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:36 AM
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The reason you liked those dancing girls is because they "just knew how to move their bodies," right? This is only one facet of sex appeal, but it's one that speaks to us on a primal level. It's bodily awareness. So the key here is to find masculine ways to cultivate your bodily awareness. Those dancing girls expressed their bodily awareness in a very feminine way by dancing. The first examples that come to mind when I think of masculine bodily awareness are martial arts, yoga, exercise, tai chi…
/r/seduction26/07/20 03:31 AM
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Good move pushing for the phone number. As you get more experienced you'll realize that girls give out social media profiles in place of phone numbers when they aren't serious about seeing you. If a girl will give you social media but she won't give you a phone number, you're wasting your time. Any girl that is serious about seeing you will gladly give you her phone number. Next time try taking it to the next level and inviting her out on a small date right there, then ask for the phone number. …
/r/seduction25/07/20 04:20 AM
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That sucks man, but it's good that you're informed on the law in your area! Disregard paragraph one and proceed to paragraphs two and three.
/r/seduction25/07/20 01:41 AM
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I think all of this can be boiled down to one core concept, and it's a major concept that men struggle with in dating. Most women want men to read them intuitively and instinctively and behave accordingly. It's because men are logcial and women are emotional. She wants you to use your emotional intelligence to read her. So you have to juggle this while leading and maintaining masculine frame. The types of men you're describing, this is what they do. These are the types of men that women fantasiz…
/r/seduction25/07/20 01:38 AM
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Learn the laws in your area. Where I grew up, it was legal to consensually date girls that were 16 even after you turned 18, and vice versa. I think the cut off age for that was 20. Many guys still felt that it was too risky due to concerns that the girl might withdraw consent post-breakup. I've had girls that were clearly underage shoot me straight up choosing signals. It's kind of cute. I just smile at them and keep it moving. If you approach a girl and find out that she's younger than you exp…
/r/seduction25/07/20 01:21 AM
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I feel you there man. I'm a seriously introverted guy too so that's the biggest hurdle for me. It's not hard to get some momentum going after a while, but the initial conversation is pretty much the hardest part of dating for me.
/r/seduction24/07/20 07:15 AM
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I don't think you can really force yourself to take a pause, it's just something I've learned to do over the years. I grew up with a poor sense of self-esteem so I had to learn to accept a compliment too. I had to realize that it's perfectly okay for someone to find something they like about me and tickle my ego a bit. It doesn't make me a douchebag to accept a compliment. When a someone gives you a compliment, they want you to enjoy that little moment. The worst thing I've seen people do is bas…
/r/seduction24/07/20 07:11 AM
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That's exactly what I'm saying man. But we have to be objective here because there's two sides to this. Most women believe it's acceptable to reward a man treating them financially with sex, and so that's become a societal norm. But men are also encouraging this behavior by buying drinks or gifts for girls they want to have sex with. So for me the key here is to date girls you're interested in for other reason beyond sex, and encourage her to contribute to your life in other ways that aren't sex…
/r/seduction24/07/20 06:55 AM
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When a girl gives you a compliment, don't act like you're shocked to be recieving a compliment, play it off cool. Just look her in the eye for a moment and say "thank you" in a calm voice. I like to flash the girl a little smirk as well. That's pretty much my default response. If I felt like switching it up, I'd probably respond like this: Girl: "That's a cool jacket, I like it." Me: "Really, you like my jacket?" Girl: "Of course! I love ____ style." Me: "Yeah I always knew you had good taste." …
/r/seduction24/07/20 02:02 AM
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You're lucky in this scenario because if you were a man posting a similar question, you would be getting very different responses about how inappropriate and toxic your behavior is. If this guy likes you, he'll probably be happy that you took the liberty to make the first move. I don't have any problem with girls approaching or anything like that, and I don't find it creepy unless they persist after I've declined interest or something. The biggest issue you'll likely run into here is that even i…
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:30 AM
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It's not a move, so it's not designed to "work." When I meet a girl I'll shake her hand and look into her eyes regardless. For escalation, I let girls make the sweet touches while I make the strong touches. This keeps it pretty simple. It's not so much about the touch itself, but rather the way you execute the touch in my experience.
/r/seduction23/07/20 08:08 AM
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If you're a woman, then it's totally acceptable for you shoot your shot at his workplace. If you're a man...proceed with extreme caution.
/r/seduction23/07/20 07:28 AM
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Yeah don't buy into that bullshit man, just do what's right for you. I'm "retired" now but I was heavily involved with recreational drugs/partying for years. Those people are so wrapped up in that lifestyle that it's like a culture shock for them when they meet someone who genuinely enjoys sobriety. To some degree they're envious. Same. It's not really worth it. My fitness and nutrition is on point now, so I want to date women that can keep up with my stamina. I have no time for drunk girls. But…
/r/seduction23/07/20 06:54 AM
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Since you're straight edge, you probably don't want to date girls that are into drinking or partying either. So this is actually an asset to your situation for two reasons. One, you can pretty much meet women anywhere you want because your romantic interests don't revolve around drinking and partying, so don't confine yourself. Two, you'll stand out from other guys because you actually have the balls to express your interest to a woman dead sober in a non-sexualized environment.
/r/seduction23/07/20 05:33 AM
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The key to loving yourself is transforming yourself into a man that you would be proud of. You have to make yourself into the type of man you would admire. Only then will you feel free enough to love yourself. This is what most guys get wrong. They try to figure out what type of man a girl would admire so they can feign that identity for her. Girls want a guy who admires himself first. She won't believe in you if you don't believe in yourself first.
/r/seduction23/07/20 04:14 AM
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I mean I ususally break the touch barrier as soon as I meet the woman with a handshake. But I really don't have to put this much thought into it unless the girl is nervous or something. They tend to go for the little sweet touches like tapping your arm or moving a curl behind your ear. I go for the stronger touches like the handhold, the guiding, and eventually the kiss. I honestly thought this was pretty normal because it usually works for me.
/r/seduction22/07/20 09:24 PM
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Not really. I break the touch barrier where it counts.
/r/seduction22/07/20 12:36 PM
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I agree. I prefer to allow women to break the touch barrier these days.
/r/seduction22/07/20 06:52 AM
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It depends on a few factors: Most guys straight up miss these signals, I'm pretty intuitive/aware of my surroundings and even I miss these signals sometimes. Some girls are just smiley/friendly people, and I try not to read too much into it. Recently I had a girl do this same signal, and I would have approached her, but I thought she was looking at the guy behind me. Then I realized the guy behind me was an old man and I felt really stupid because this girl was totally my type and I was attracte…
/r/seduction21/07/20 10:21 PM
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Absolutely. I went through a lot of what you're describing while growing up, and from many different sources. I allowed it to destroy my self-esteem, self-image, and sense of self-worth for a very long time. Psychologically I think this is some of the worst stuff you can do to a developing human because you're pretty much invalidating their existence, which is something young people are already questioning anyway.
/r/seduction21/07/20 09:43 PM
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I'm a guy, and I just wanted to say that I've noticed over the years that most guys are generally approaching less and less. From talking to other guys I've found it's usually either fear of rejection because they've been rejected in harsh ways before, or they have low self-esteem problems so impending rejection simply crushes them and isn't worth the risk. The other reason is that many guys are scared of coming off as creepy. There's a lot of weird stuff going around about men because of the wh…
/r/seduction21/07/20 04:07 AM
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Most people are unattractive because most people don't have the guts to be who they want to be. Most people are more concerned of what others think of them than what they think of themselves. Not only is it unconfident, it's inauthentic. People want to date someone they know is real so they can form a sincere bond based on genuine connection, trust, and honesty. Unconfident people are inauthentic, insincere, fearful, and lack the sense of freedom it takes to express themselves in a charming, cha…
/r/seduction21/07/20 03:50 AM
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In a lot of cases it's not that a particular attribute is inherently positive or negative. Much of that is conveyed subconsciously through your own perspective towards your own self-image. So part of this is determining what YOU think your positive and negative attributes are. I also find that if you're a man and you're actually getting compliments, then you're doing something right Also, keep in mind that while you look at people you percieve as higher value than yourself with envy, there are o…
/r/seduction20/07/20 10:01 PM
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No, I said it this way because I meant it this way: "Most men can't read women's body language for shit. They can't read her vibe or signals. They don't understand how the polarity of masculine vs feminine. They don't know how to hold conversations in a way which women find exciting. They don't know how to touch a woman in the way that she wants to be touched. They don't know how to seduce women in the way that women want to be seduced. Women aren't going to give you pussy because you want it, t…
/r/seduction20/07/20 07:07 AM
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Absolutely. I feel better about myself because I'm taking better care of myself, which therefore makes me look and feel more attractive. I also get more attention from women now because I look and feel more attractive. And because I'm getting more attention from women, I'm starting to feel entitled to their attention because I know I have options. This is how you create outcome independence and abundance mindset organically. Pessimism kills your game because women don't want to hang out with guy…
/r/seduction20/07/20 06:47 AM
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You're welcome. I don't know that it's necessarily something to be paranoid about, but it is something to keep in mind. Older or more experienced guys will probably be able to pick up on your lack of experience and they might take advantage of that. Ironically the desperate guys will probably be too naive and just jump for joy that a woman even took interest in them at all. But we live in a society that fetishizes young/virginal women, it is what it is. I'm comfortable dating younger/virginal gi…
/r/seduction20/07/20 04:30 AM
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So here's the thing about creepy - a lot of what people call creepy has less to do with the actual behavior itself and more to do with the behavior the person is coming from. For example, if a girl finds me highly attractive, I can probably use some stupid pickup lines and it will still work because she will simply be thrilled that I made some kind of move. But if a guy she thinks is highly unattractive used the same lines, she'd probably say that his lines made him creepy. So if you are pretty …
/r/seduction20/07/20 03:11 AM
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I'm one of these guys. In my experience, the girl's loss of interest has nothing to do with intelligence or intellect. It's because guys like us have a bad habit of getting too caught up in logical-informational mode, and that gets really overwhelming and intimidating for some people because it makes it difficult to connect in other ways. Romance is more driven by vibes, energy, and emotions. Can you imagine if your girlfriend was going on intellectual rants like Jordan Peterson all the time? Th…
/r/seduction19/07/20 10:58 PM
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Interesting, never thought of it that way before. Since so many men see skinny girls as the holy grail of attractive women, that never occurred to me. I thought possibly there was some kind of skinny fetish to all this, because I'm surprised how many skinny guys seem to genuinely be into fat girls, but I think your idea is more plausible.
/r/seduction19/07/20 10:44 PM
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Can someone explain to me what it is about fat girls going after skinny guys? This seems to be so common.
/r/seduction19/07/20 09:55 PM
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This is huge, you think they can see through you into your past, but really they're only evaluating you on who you are in that moment.
/r/seduction19/07/20 09:54 PM
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Never said anything about "winging" anything.
/r/seduction19/07/20 09:40 PM
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Learning to trust my own instincts as a man was huge leap forward for me getting better with dating.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:25 AM
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This is great advice, however, I just wanted to throw out that I don't explicitly follow everything in the dresscode department and I still get decent results. Your clothes need to be congruent with your style and your style needs to be congruent with your personality. This is the most important aspect of clothes/style, right next to fit and I can't stress it enough.
/r/seduction19/07/20 08:17 AM
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It's best not to get into an argument with random women dude. No matter how vicious and uncalled for she is, everyone will take her side because of political correctness. If you're talking about shit test, then the best thing to do is to learn to recognize shit test so you can either pass them or side step them. If she's just straight up being rude and insulting you, don't feed into it. That tells her she's got you by the balls. You can simply call her out on her impolite behavior and leave. She…
/r/seduction19/07/20 05:05 AM
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It's better to live with failure than regret. You can learn more from failure.
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:52 AM
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I'm not saying that it isn't weird or uncommon, lots of people are sexually frustrated, including women. But I've tried to answer all your questions thoroughly and I've given you tools that helped me based on my experience. I'm not perfectly happy with my life or dating either but I'm always learning and improving. Based on the responses you've given it sounds like your problems are more personal than they are relationship problems, with the root of your problem being that you hate yourself and …
/r/seduction19/07/20 04:50 AM
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I agree that there's a lot of really bad advice going around here in seduction, but speak for yourself man. Not everybody needs consistent systematic plans to get the results they want. There are other styles of game and they do work for some people.
/r/seduction19/07/20 03:18 AM
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I'm with you here man, I don't understand these guys who approach hundreds of women and still can't get the results they want. I'm a guy and that's even a red flag to me, much less women. I have a friend that does this and I avoid going out with him for that reason. It's like he doesn't even realize that most of the women can literally see him approaching all over the place and they're cringing hoping he doesn't come their way. It's embarassing.
/r/seduction19/07/20 03:12 AM
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My only contention is that I believe this is why approaching feels like a chore for you now and you're relieved to go out and not see hot girls. Of course part of that is fear of rejection and anxiety, but it also just seems like you've turned dating into a full time job and it's stressing you out. This is part of why I go against a lot of the people here with my anti-pickup philosophy to seduction. Isn't dating supposed to be fun and enjoyable? Good sales people are capable of selling people th…
/r/seduction19/07/20 12:40 AM
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Solid advice.
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:33 PM
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This is a good response. Women often promote what they think they are supposed to like rather than what they actually respond to. A lot of this comes down to a woman's values and her subjective opinion towards a specific man. Two guys can use the act same type of sexual tension on a girl, if she finds the guy overall attractive, it will be charming, confident and probably work. If she finds him unattractive, she's more likely to see it is creepy and weird. As a guy that's been hit on by both att…
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:33 PM
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I can answer this. Guys aren't attracted to bitchy girls. It's the inverse of same stereotype that girls are attracted to asshole guys. What the bitchy girls and asshole guys have that nice girls and nice guys don't is sex appeal. Bitchy girls have a stronger sexual edge to their demeanor, temperament, and personality. Most people don't want a nice guy/nice girl or a bitch/asshole. Men and women are pretty similar in this regard. Most people want someone balanced. A man that can act like a gentl…
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:21 PM
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Just re-read my responses and think critically. The answers are all there. Good luck.
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:04 PM
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Yeah but most of our parents weren't pick up artists, most of our parents got laid like normal people do. His comment, while funny, was really irrelevant to my point.
/r/seduction18/07/20 08:59 PM
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Whatever you're doing is obviously working for you then. 80+ is pretty high. If that's how you define success then you're more successful than me. I'm curious, what are your goals here? I'm not asking cynically, I just have more of a quality over quantity approach with dating so my advice might not be good for you if you're trying to rack up 200 lays or something. Man, that dude just took everything I said, watered it down, and repackaged it in pickup lingo. I said dudes with solid game are usin…
/r/seduction18/07/20 08:57 PM
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That is called dry prostitution - buying a good or service for someone under the implication that sex will be given in return. I don't buy fancy dinners for women, and if I do then I usually want more than sex out of the whole ordeal. If you buy things for women and take them on dates you don't really want to go on because you want them to sleep with you, you're kind of hovering in this territory.
/r/seduction18/07/20 08:22 PM
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That's cool, keep doing 30 to 60 approaches a week and not getting results. I'm going to try and help this guy who's obviously burning out from continuous rejection.
/r/seduction18/07/20 06:03 AM
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Yeah, a thread about how pickup up isn't working for this guy. It's gotten so bad for him he dreads even seeing hot girls now. He's relieved to go out an NOT do pickup.
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:50 AM
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My advice was so good you plagiarized it. And not all seduction is pickup.
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:46 AM
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You took a shot at my advice then stole it.
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:42 AM
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Plagiarist.
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:40 AM
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You literally just took what I said, watered it down and reworded it. And you shouldn't have to approach like 30 to 60 "maybe" girls a week to get results. If it takes 30 to 60 girls a week and you still can't even get a date there is more going on here than approach anxiety.
/r/seduction18/07/20 05:31 AM
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So then you've already decided for yourself that 100% of women you like will reject you. The reality here is that you aren't even giving the women a chance to reject you because you've already rejected yourself for them. That large body of evidence in your mind isn't evidence, it's insecurity. My guess is that you're only saying that because you've never had a girl use you for sex before. It doesn't feel good unless you're also using the girl for sex too. And it's not besides the point. I gave y…
/r/seduction18/07/20 04:44 AM
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Don't listen to this guy. Dating is not a numbers game. Cold appraoching girls constantly is like the worst way to meet new women. But if it's what you like to do, by all means, have at it.
/r/seduction18/07/20 04:06 AM
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The pickup illusion is the belief that dating is all a numbers game. False. There are many more variables involved than the amount of girls you approach. The mentality that you have to approach an absurd number of girls to get a response is kind of a working harder not smarter approach to dating, and it makes you look weak to most women. But the pickup industry capitalizes on that because that illusion - nothing matters as long as you approach relentlessly - is what sells. It isn't really attrac…
/r/seduction18/07/20 04:01 AM
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I can't really answer that because my actions would entirely depend on the girl, how much I like her, how much I think she likes me, the other options I mighy have, the other options she might have. There's a lot of variables.
/r/seduction18/07/20 03:31 AM
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No, I just want to know where I stand with a woman and I don't expect her to tell me directly and honestly.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:42 PM
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Yeah that's a pretty enpowering move for us guys. Why don't you talk? That makes it sound like you're just benefits without the friends part.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:40 PM
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I mean this is just me, and I'm probably not like other guys, but if I'm having sex with a girl, I'm going to be actively observing her behavior to try and guage how much she likes me. So with some girls it's pretty easy to tell, others can hide it pretty well.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:33 PM
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I've been saying this for years, and nobody ever wants to hear it. Probably because there's no pickup artists teaching this kind of stuff.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:30 PM
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It's because this isn't real attraction. You bought into the pickup illusion and are finally seeing it for what it is.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:18 PM
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There's a chance he might already know that you have developed feelings so he's creating distance. On the flipside, he may just not care. But if you tell him and he didn't know, now he knows.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:16 PM
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I love to smile at women - I'm just self-conscious about my teeth.
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:10 PM
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Just to let you know, even if your only an average guy, you will blow a lot of opportunities with women thinking like this. You'll be in such a negative headspace and form such negative opinions about yourself that you either will not recognize it or will not believe it when women demonstrate interest in you. I blew so many opportunities with girls when I was younger because I made dumbass excuses for their behavior because the idea that they liked me and were giving me a free shot was an unimag…
/r/seduction17/07/20 09:08 PM
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This is a good description of the combination of abundance mindset, outcome independence, and assumed attraction that everyone here is looking for.
/r/seduction17/07/20 08:56 PM
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That's because dudes with solid game aren't manipulating girls into liking them. Their using their skills to create stronger attraction, or capitalizing on the attraction that's already there. If you're trying to use game to manipulate girls into liking you then that's a rough path and that's not really how assumed attraction works.
/r/seduction17/07/20 08:51 PM
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Most girls are used to guys hitting them up constantly, repeatedly, and predictably. Now you stand out from the others because you're the guy that's challenging, spontaneous, and unpredictable. Remember that episode of That 70's Show with Fez and Nina? "We will make him aloof-er!" .
/r/seduction17/07/20 05:34 AM
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Kind of a combination of both. I had a rough upbringing and had real serious self-esteem issues because of it. I basically used to hate myself. Bringing that up because it's been a long journey for me, and I've bombed with a lot of girls over the years - which is how you learn. I can remember being as young as 10 years old and somehow knowing I was the type of guy that was a "lover" of women, whatever that means. I was romantically/sexually attracted to girls even as a kid. I didn't have many fr…
/r/seduction17/07/20 02:52 AM
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Not sure what part of the US you're in because I don't see this regularly, but it doesn happen. If a man is so jacked there's no doubt he's on steroids...that's really not super attractive. It reeks of insecurity. The hot girls tend to go for guys that are skinny, fit, athletic, maybe even average body types. I don't see very many hot girls with jacked juiceheads. Those guys often have shitty and ironically feminine personalities. The other possibility is that I've noticed a lot of guys here my …
/r/seduction17/07/20 02:18 AM
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What if you put yourself out there and got success? Many of the girls I've dated, I pretty much expected to be rejected, and then was pleasantly surprised when I wasn't. Rejection hurts, but that success is an equally powerful feeling too man. You might consider re-framing your persepective. You should know that rather than reject you, some girls will string you along hoping you'll give them free attention or buy them shit. Some girls even use guys for sex too. This is so much worse than being r…
/r/seduction17/07/20 01:55 AM
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You have to level up and make yourself into the type of guy where being yourself is good enough. Only then can you "just be yourself" and it's real.
/r/seduction17/07/20 01:25 AM
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Dude I've gotten straight up choosing signals from a few girls with masks and still didn't approach. They were cute too, but the mask thing just weirds me out.
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:16 PM
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So the big secret here is that most guys are deathly afraid of rejection and deathly afraid of creeping a woman out. So as a response, most guys are very subtle and indirect and beat around the bush while flirting. The tragic irony to this is that while it usually spares you the pain of overt rejection, it ends up creeping out the girls that would have actually been interested in you because you aren't owning the seduction. And the girls that would have rejected you straight up - don't even appr…
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:14 PM
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The eyes, Chico. They never lie.
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:30 PM
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I haven't delved too much into dating apps to be giving advice on those, but girls are girls really. I've noticed that my friends as well as people on here have really polarizing results. I usually either hear that dudes get a lot of success because the women are so low value that the guys actually seem extremely high value men by comparison, so they play that game. Or I hear that the women are so picky and spoiled with attention that you can't get any results and when you do they flake, bots, o…
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:54 PM
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Good lookin' out bro. But as long as you got something positive out of it, that's all I care about.
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:37 PM
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Case. In. Point.
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:16 PM
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This is an even better example of what I'm talking about.
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:29 AM
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This is really not how this stuff works man...stay off the hub dude.
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:23 AM
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Have a place that's clean and well kept and furnished/decorated with quality items. Make sure your bedroom at the very least has a masculine vibe/design. You want your lair look like it's fit for a prince. This doesn't mean you need flash and pizzazz. But a high value guy isn't going to sleep in a grungey room filled with cheap beer posters, sports memorabilia, and a resin coated bong.
/r/seduction16/07/20 10:01 AM
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Where do you live at? I don't think there's the same level of fear where I'm at. I see girls walking around without masks a lot.
/r/seduction16/07/20 09:41 AM
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I just try to accept it. I had ance all throughout my life as a teenager and well into my 20s. It only started scarring a few years ago when I started using some acne cream some dumbass dermatologist gave me. Most of my scars are hyperpigmentation (flat red spots). I'm lucky because I only have a handful of indented scars, but I miss the smooth face I had when I was younger. I don't think my scars are bad enough to be a deal breaker with women, it's just my insecurity. My biggest problem is the …
/r/seduction16/07/20 08:29 AM
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Man it's going to sound like I'm being tough on you for a minute, but I'm just trying to give you some food for thought cause I've been down that road and you might find that it's not all that it's cracked up to be. I'm totally not telling you what to do here either cause you gotta live the life that's right for you, just sharing my experiences cause you sound similar to me when I was 21. So I grew up in the South East United States. I'm saying this because if you're from a place like California…
/r/seduction16/07/20 08:06 AM
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When I was in film school I wrote a whole analysis on this film. It's very dense because there's so much detail to take in, and it has this really odd energy where it's a subtle film yet in your face at the same time. Nobody makes movies like that anymore.
/r/seduction16/07/20 07:33 AM
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I'm in the same boat as you. Just graduated, moved back home, looking for jobs, nobody to socialize with, and most of my hobbies are more introverty things. Right now the best thing to do isn't trying to meet women, but doing self-improvement work so you can pull higher quality women when this is over. When gyms are open, you could appraoch there. I'd say an even smoother move would be to invite a girl from elsewhere to go climbing with you. That way you're introducing her into your element. I'm…
/r/seduction16/07/20 06:00 AM
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The combination of all of the problems I describe is what kills the incels. Guys like you and me lack most of these problems except the self-esteem part, and I'd wager that 99% of the population feels like they could improve on their self-esteem, so that isn't saying much. What I believe is that your level of DGAF-attitude is completely congruent with your level self-esteem. So if your self-esteem is 60% positive 40% negative, you're probably putting out a vibe that's 60% confidence and 40% inse…
/r/seduction16/07/20 05:38 AM
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There's a lot to take in here man, so let's break this down. First off, if you're dating 21-year-old girls, those are women in their prime. They're like the luxury car that everyone wants to drive but nobody can afford. Girls that age have endless options. If you're going on dates and pulling one night stands with 21-year-old girls -- that IS success. Not the level of success you want, but success none the less. You definitely aren't an "incel." What you need to do is define what your level of s…
/r/seduction16/07/20 05:21 AM
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So this is a tough one man but I'm going to try and help you as best I can. First off, good move on lifting and dressing better, those are essential. People act like taking good care of yourself is a feminine/douchey thing, but your self-image levels up tremendously when you can become the type of man you want to be. That's looks, clothes, physique, voice, attitude, lifestyle, everything. I find that this is key. Be a man you can be proud of, irrespective of women. I was raised to be a people pl…
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:53 AM
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Dude hit the gym hard and get on a diet. Then build a nice wardrobe, groom yourself well, and practice your social skills. I started exercising and getting my diet right at 25 and I feel and look healthier now at 28 than I did three years ago. I lost the pretty boy skin tone I had as a teenager and I don't get constant erections 24/7, but other than that you can still be in your prime.
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:20 AM
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Right, and 1976 NYC at that. Yet Travis has the same exact mindset as a school shooter - only his shooting was for a good cause so he WAS admired for it. Had he successfully assassinated the senator, he would have been seen on the same level as a school shooter.
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:05 AM
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The one that really gets under my skin is when he writes his mom the letter talking about how great his imaginary girlfriend is. I couldn't imagine feeling the pressure to have to lie to my family about having a girlfriend when I didn't. And then imagining them being proud of me while I sit in a dirty apartment taking speed pills. I always wished his taxi friend made some more attempts to help him. 1970s NYC culture probably had a lot to do with him keeping his distance, but Travis literally tel…
/r/seduction16/07/20 03:39 AM
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I know two particular girls that did, but they were the really low self-esteem type of girls and were passed around some of the other guys in my social circle frequently, unbeknownst to most of those guys. So it was like come on man, not only are you banging the chicks your friends have already fucked, you're paying too. I actually grew up with this guy even know we aren't friends anymore. I mostly feel sorry for him because he was raised in a household where he was taught some very bad things a…
/r/seduction16/07/20 03:26 AM
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Right, I gotcha. I like that scene - it shows how Travis is so absorbed in his own world that he couldn't even comprehend why it was socially incorrect to take a classy woman to a porno theater. The most incely thing he does to me is that he's willing to do volunteer work for a political party he doesn't even believe in just to get close to a girl. I mean, we've all done dumb shit to impress girls, right? But he takes it to the level of attempting to assassinate the candidate she works for just …
/r/seduction16/07/20 03:19 AM
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And then you have to live the rest of your life with the stigma that you're the type of guy that pays for sex. I can't imagine anything more destructive towards your self-worth as a man. I had a friend would buy weed for girls under the implication they put out, basically paying him with sexual favors. Man I lost all respect for that guy when I found that out. I was like "now you're offically that guy that has to trade girls weed for sex because you can't get laid just being you." It's sad.
/r/seduction16/07/20 03:10 AM
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It's funny that you mention that because I used to watch Taxi Driver all the time and I totally identified with Travis Bickle. Ironically I was having sex at the time so for me it was more about stuggling with my introverted nature and frustrations with society. Travis is like the 1970s version of an incel because of his unstable personality and madonna/whore complex. I think he's far too charasmatic to compare to many of the guys this is aimed at. Some of these guys just downright hate women. I…
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:59 AM
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Intetesting stuff, I might check out some more of your other videos later. I actually started doing what you call emotefulness intuitively after years of dealing with chronic anxiety. My background sounds similar to yours. Started having panic attacks and severe anxiety at age 13. They put me on medication, CBT, CAT scans, saw therapist, neurologist, etc. People who downplay anxiety don't realize how destructive anxiety really is for some people, because it's not the anxiety itself that's so deb…
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:47 AM
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I consider myself to be a hot and confident guy so I don't do shit like that by default because it's against my policy. I can't think of anything more detrimental to your self-worth as a man than paying a woman money just to get some pussy.
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:10 AM
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My guess is that these guys are so low-self-esteem that they know on a subconscious level that a negative reaction from a girl would simply destroy their already threadbare self-image. I started dating and having sex as a teenager, but I still had the low self-esteem stuff and I felt like I needed women's approval at all times to accept myself as a man and feel good about myself. I'd also say that most of these guys probably have killer porn habits and porn makes you see women as these mythical …
/r/seduction16/07/20 02:04 AM
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I get that you're an anxiety coach so you're probably not going to give out your best secrets for free. But you didn't even explain how you overcame your anxiety. All you told us is that you had it and now you don't, which makes this feel like a marketing attempt and it makes me question your credibility. What I would like to know is what specific actions/changes you made in your transformation that took you from severe panic and anxiety disorder to an anxiety-free life? What was the turning poi…
/r/seduction16/07/20 01:52 AM
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Mixing seduction with psychology can make you an manipulative asshole or it can help you learn to create genuine connections with the types of girls you really want. Why did you use this on countless girls? Part of this shit is that it it's up to you to be ethical and not get countless girls attached to you for the fuck of it. The difficulty to fall in love, wanting to be in control, and the mental block are all pretty normal for guys that go down this path. But it's not normal in the sense that…
/r/seduction16/07/20 01:41 AM
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This is a real thing and it's called prostitution. It's a serious criminal offense. But beyond moral, legal, and safety concerns, you should never ever pay a woman for sex under any circumstance because hot and confident guys don't do shit like that.
/r/seduction16/07/20 01:32 AM
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Man I'll be straight up with you, I've had a few really cute girls throw me choosing signals, and I didn't even approach because the mask thing weirds me out. And I'm not one of those people that's living in constant fear of getting sick, it just feels weird hitting on a girl in a face mask.
/r/seduction16/07/20 12:45 AM
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The problem is that most of these guys are extremely low confidence/low self-steem, compounded with a lack of social skills/experience with women, and then being incredibly needy/lustful because they're so sex focused. It's a tornado of negativity that simply pushes women away and leaves men feeling terrible about themselves. This is a solid post man. I hope things work out for you with this girl!
/r/seduction16/07/20 12:30 AM
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I guess my point is...who cares? I grew up in America in the during the early 1990s to the early 2010s. I get your point that feminism encourages women to be promiscous, just like religion encourages women to be celibate. But none of that had anything to do with my proclivity towards being a bad boy. I was a bad boy irrespective of women.
/r/seduction15/07/20 10:35 PM
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Well thank you for educating me on sex practices from around the world. I still don't know what any of that has to do with my subjective life experience or why you're so dead set on trying to prove to me that feminism encourages promiscuity. I understand the contention you're trying to make, but it's an extreme belief and I still disagree with it. Dudes that are naturals, bad boys, players, or just have a good understanding of women's behavior have more going for them than "it's just feminism, b…
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:53 PM
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That's not what you said. Your exact words were: "Seduction community wouldn’t exist if feminist didn’t exist and most of you would be married, meanwhile the REAL bad boys or “naturals” would be seducing your wives cause you would’ve never learned game."
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:46 PM
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I'd love to see some research go into plant seduction. That's fascinating. I guess every plant, animal, or creature on Earth wants to get laid sometimes...
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:42 PM
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This is a prime example of what I'm talking about.
/r/seduction15/07/20 09:23 PM
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If you look you'll see that OP has posted this same thing in like 100 forums all with the same title. Clearly someone on a warpath.
/r/seduction15/07/20 08:05 AM
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My bad boyness had nothing to do with feminism. I wasn't just a bad boy with girls, I was a bad boy in every aspect of life. I had a very rough adolescence and I was involved with a lot of bad things, which also allowed me to be a bad boy with girls.
/r/seduction15/07/20 08:00 AM
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PUA is a new thing. Men and women have been seducing each other going thousands and thousands of years back into recorded history. I see seduction as an artform, PUA is a commercial industry.
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:57 AM
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Interesting. I didn't even realize men's rights movements were a thing...
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:37 AM
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It's because some very sinister and powerful people have sold women and society the lie that they are inherent victims of circumstance. Not all women believe this stuff because not all women view themselves as hopeless victims of circumstance, and thank god for that.
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:34 AM
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I don't really agree with this. I don't think feminism is helping men or women, and the art of seduction has been around much longer than feminism has. I'm also unmarried, I was basically a bad boy as a teenager, and the game I run is pretty natural compared to what most guys do. And I don't attributed any of this to feminism. It's all product of my subjective life experiences such as my upbringing and my formative experiences with women.
/r/seduction15/07/20 07:24 AM
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If anything it's hurting women.
/r/seduction15/07/20 04:53 AM
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Of course. Who taught you that alcohol is a requirement to get women?
/r/seduction15/07/20 02:26 AM
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I just looked up images of those two guys, and I'm thinking OP is in the former category here... His descriptions of himself in his responses aren't adding up.
/r/seduction15/07/20 02:21 AM
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Interesting, so you would say that the neutral to negative treatment mostly just stems from simply being male? I assumed it was probably the transgender thing since I've been a guy my whole life, you get used to people treating you neutrally/negatively from a young age. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, because I'm only speaking objectively here. But as a highly intuitive person, I can often differentiate a trans person from someone that was born their gender. I'm not trying to sound mea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 01:45 AM
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Most guys set the bar for themselves so low that you can easily stand out by doing these things. An average man on a self-improvement journey with strong game will almost always out perform a physically attractive man with bad game and bad habits.
/r/seduction15/07/20 01:31 AM
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So first thing to keep in mind is that when you are a man, nobody really cares. There's no special treatment because you are more or less invisible and expected to take care of yourself. I have no idea where the feminist types get all this hooplah about men receiving special treatment... I'm not judging you, but part of the reason people are reluctant to help you or socialize with you is because you transitioned. Most people are deathly afraid of saying the wrong thing that might accidentally of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 01:18 AM
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It would have been ideal if I was in the gym back then putting on 35 lbs of muscle mass, but I was a sedentary alcoholic so at 5'9 180 lbs I was skinny fat.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:14 PM
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I'm not judging you, but your experiences aren't normal or reflective of the average guy's struggles or results. A huge portion of the people asking for advice here are guys that have never had a girlfriend or don't even know how to approach. Which is why I'm suggesting that your experiences say more about you than anything else. Most men will never even approach 1000 women in their entire lifetime.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:10 PM
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Don't take it so literally, it's still in your best interest to pursue and approach. What people mean when they say this is that you will create more opportunities for yourself. Self-improvement is the highest form of game, because rather than just trying to appear high value to get women, which is what most guys do, you're actually making yourself high value and women will pick up on the authenticity.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:05 PM
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If you've genuinely been rejected over 1000 times then that says more about you than it does about women and dating. The other guy is right about that.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:00 PM
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It's hard to explain because sexual tension isn't a pick up tactic, it's real attraction. It's intuitive and instinctual. A guy with solid game can create sexual tension, but it's too individualistic and situational to be summed up as a technique. It all starts with attraction though. The girl has to have some level of attraction towards you or else it feels weird and will set off red flags and she'll avoid you. Provided she's decently attracted to you then you create tense and sexualized moment…
/r/seduction14/07/20 03:42 PM
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Exactly. Girls are already way too image focused in this media addicted society, and this is only feeding into that. The guys that complain that all girls care about is looks...this is how you're contributing to that by reducing yourself, your life, and your sex appeal to a series of contrived images.
/r/seduction14/07/20 03:24 PM
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She certianly isn't telling you about the other guys she's seeing. My rule is to always be honest if they bring it up, but I don't bring it up. In my experience most girls are dating other guys so they tend not to have a problem with this until they decide it's a problem. Rules might be different if you're involved in open relationships. I'm talking about casual dating.
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:53 PM
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You take regular tension, and then you make it sexual. This is not me being a smartass, it's just that there's a thousand different ways to do this.
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:52 PM
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With all that in consideration you might want to try consulting with a nutritionist or fitness professional then. I don't have a trainer or anything and I don't use a public gym. I educated myself on fitness and nutrition so I'm entirely self-taught. Just saying this because I'm unsure of how effective my advice will be for you, it's just what's worked for me. I also do intermittent fasting sometimes as well, but it doesn't sound like that's necessary for your situation.
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:43 PM
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The average woman isn't as sex focused as the average man. Attractive women automatically have an abundance mentality when it comes to sex. So they're looking for quality not quantity. When you see an attractive woman, it turns you on. You can't control this. When a woman sees an attractive man, it turns her on. She can't control this. You may already have a girlfriend or be seeing a different girl. But you would still enjoy the moment of flirting with an attractive woman even if you never inten…
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:29 PM
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No, I was always about 135 even while sedentary. Then I started drinking and then shot up to 180 over the course of like one year. It was just plain unhealthy. So I quit alcohol and got my diet right and occasionally did some light exercise. Then when I got myself back down to 135 I started taking exercise more seriously and really cracked down on the diet. Keep in mind that a guy that's 150 lean and muscular looks a lot different from a guy that's 150 and skinny fat.
/r/seduction14/07/20 01:11 PM
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At 180 lbs my diet was beer, dr. Pepper, frozen dinners, fast food, canned soups, deli sandwiches, chocolate, and cookies. What I eat now is a diet of natural minimally processed whole foods. I don't really go to restaurants and or buy prepared foods. I eat lots of lean meat, eggs, seafood, and some dairy for protein. Lots of fruits and vegetables for vitamins, minerals, and fiber. Nuts, seeds, olive oil, and coconut oil for healthy fats. Occasionally I eat whole grains like rice and oatmeal but…
/r/seduction14/07/20 12:58 PM
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I was more so giving the benefit of the doubt. I was overwieght at 5'9 180lbs. Now I'm 5'9 148 lbs lean muscle, I literally cannot imagine being 5'6 220 lbs. Or even 5'9 220 lbs. I was miserable at 180 lbs at 5'9 and compared to the average "overwieght person" that's still pretty low at that height.
/r/seduction14/07/20 12:35 PM
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Honestly I'd like to see pictures of the two girls. That will speak for itself.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:01 AM
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So with all this in consideration, an average man that is average in real life could stand out as high value on tinder? I guess at the end of the day it's all relative to what you value in women. But between you and me, the fact that we're even taking women's value beyond looks into consideration says a lot about us in comparison to the types of guys that frequent these boards. The higher you raise your standards for yourself, the more your standards for women go up too.
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:58 AM
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I've also noticed this from my friends using apps: They pick up low value women, so they appear extremely high value men by comparison to those women. They don't have killer profiles, so the women are pleasantly surprised they got a better deal than they thought they would.
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:47 AM
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The one thing I've noticed is that guys who tend to have a lot of success on apps tend to be the same guys that COULD have similar success in real life with those same girls. And probably better ones with the real life effort. So to an extent game is game but real life is leagues better.
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:36 AM
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That's really heavy at 5'6.
/r/seduction14/07/20 09:06 AM
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Dude, I'm not judging you at all but 220 lbs at 5'6 is either really unhealthy or you're like the most roided up body builder ever. But this also is proof straight up for the guys that think looks are the only thing that matters with women.
/r/seduction14/07/20 08:37 AM
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The one thing I want to mention here is that these are all things that every guy should already be doing for HIMSELF. Don't start lifting or try to pick up a bunch of hobbies and activities because you think it's going to get you laid on tinder. Do it because you genuinely want to and it makes you happy. When girls meet a man that's actually genuinely happy and proud of himself, they can sense it and they find that attractive because thst's what real confidence looks like. For example, I don't r…
/r/seduction14/07/20 06:29 AM
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If you break eye contact, look back immediately. If a girl won't fuck with you because you got startled for a split second, forget about her. What matters is that you owned it rather than sneaking glances. Be careful though, cause sometimes I just like to check a girl out, and then she initiates eye contact even though I never had any intention of approaching. So then I feel like if I don't break the eye contact then I'm leading her on. Also, girls can sense when you're looking at them even if t…
/r/seduction14/07/20 02:12 AM
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It's odd isn't it? Just keep at it bro, lots of negativity out here these days.
/r/seduction14/07/20 12:03 AM
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I think the types of things that happened to us are extremely common for guys these days. I study psychology too and I'll share some of the realizations I've come to. Hope this helps: You probably did create negative associations around masculinity and your father. Even though my father was present, he was more of a provider than an actual leader or teacher. My mom, who was mostly the one that raised me, has a lot of weird hang ups around men and has an unrealistic paranoia about male behavior, …
/r/seduction13/07/20 10:34 PM
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Right on man. The smarter types are taking advantage of this opportunity to improve in areas they would have less time or ability to normally. I don't know what it is about me, but I seem to thrive when everyone is is struggling. Like it seems the worse the rest of the world gets, things just start falling into place for me. It's weird.
/r/seduction13/07/20 06:48 AM
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It definitely makes a difference. Every aspect of my life used to be negative. I was miserably depressed, hated people, chronically anxious, defined myself by childhood traumas, ate a terrible diet, had insomnia, never exercised, hated my body, used drugs, and had a tiny social circle of other drug users. These days I'm drug free, love to exercise and maintain a pure diet. I prioritize my health and wellness and live a self-improvement lifestyle. I've learned to love my personality and my introv…
/r/seduction13/07/20 06:18 AM
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If you get the body in shape and refine every other aspect of your game and fundamentals, even with an average face you will surpass most good looking men.
/r/seduction13/07/20 06:08 AM
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Okay, so I'm not sure what's going on here because my response to OP regarded his assertion that incredibly hot girls aren't primarily impressed by looks. My statememt deviates a bit by asserting that most men don't have problems attracting women, most men have problems actually being attractive. Which includes but isn't limited to low self-esteem, low self-confidence, discomfort with sexuality, discomfort with masculinity, and a lack of understanding of women's behavior and expressions. What I …
/r/seduction13/07/20 05:30 AM
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What I find most attractive in a woman is when she's centered in her feminine energy. I know this is abstract so bear with me. The most attractive women I've ever known, they all oozed this sweet feminine essence. It made their presence as a feminine being intoxicating to me, even if they weren't exactly my type looks-wise. Spending time around them made me feel like a man and it was exciting. Think of it like magnetic poles, feminine attracts masculine like a magnet. Women like this are getting…
/r/seduction13/07/20 02:57 AM
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That's because most guys have such low standards for themselves and for women that literally all they expect a woman to do is look or feel sexy. There is some truth to this. I read a psychology article thag asserted that a woman needs to feel desired by a man in order to feel desire for that man in return, which is why most women won't show much interest in men that don't approach first. I've also coincidentally read that a man's greatest desire is to feel respected and admired by a woman, which…
/r/seduction13/07/20 02:32 AM
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Okay man, I'm going to be real with you here because there's a lot to take in and I'm passionte about helping people overcome these issues. So the first thing is that you need to work on your self-esteem, self-confidence, self-image, inner critic, and your social skills, whatever that means for you. This isn't a weekend retreat, it's a journey. Next, you need to learn more about women and women's behavior and interact with them more often to get more comfortable around them. This is a difficult …
/r/seduction13/07/20 02:20 AM
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I've manifested more personal growth in the past 4 months that I did in years prior. Even though things really suck right now, there are blessings in tragedy.
/r/seduction13/07/20 02:01 AM
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Definitely doesn't apply to all women. Often times it's the man being social inept in these situations. But I am genuinely surprised at some women's social ineptitude sometimes because we were taught to believe as boys that girls are socially smarter than us.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:13 PM
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What I mean is that I think you have belief that men and women are the same and don't have respective gender pre-dispositions. If you do believe this it obviously shapes your world views just like my beliefs shape my world views. So I don't think of it as a "problem." We're just different. I'm not afraid to disagree with others but I don't expect others to agree with me either. You keep responding to me defenisvely and I don't understand why. There's a difference between someone not understandin…
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:08 PM
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I respect people who can agree to disagree. That's rare these days.
/r/seduction12/07/20 05:02 PM
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I agree with all your points too. That's exactly what's going on here. People are confusing the natural balance of masculine and feminine energies with gender equality and political correctness. The two concepts are essentially unrelated. What's unfortunate is that the gender-agenda is successfully making people 50/50 and it already is having a negative effect on physical psychological health, I see it all the time. It's detrimental. That's a cool description. Another one I heard was that when a…
/r/seduction12/07/20 04:35 PM
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That's what I'm saying, there's not too many beliefs I'm dogmatic towards. Conservative, progressive, etcetera. No political affiliations. I'm all over the place sometimes. It kills my friends cause they always assume I share the same beliefs with them until I don't haha.
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:48 PM
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No, I got your point, even though it's incongruent and all over the place. What I'm telling you is that I respectfully disagree and you haven't presented any real evidence to convince me otherwise. So you resort to writing me off as judgemental and insecure because I won't falter on my statements rather than sincerely challenging my assertions. If there's something you believe I'm misunderstanding, feel free to explain. I can't be "in the wrong here" because I'm not trying to be in the right.
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:42 PM
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I've noticed from your replies that you have a really defensive attitude and you somehow relate everything to sexism. You even did this on my replies about clothing and self-expression. I sincerely think you're reading way too much into my posts and projecting your own agenda.
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:33 PM
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This is actually a real phenomenon and they're called "pussy drinks." I don't think pussy drinks are something most women even take into consideration. It's something that straight men judge other straight men for which I find to be the oddest thing as a guy myself, but I've seen other men do it.
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:31 PM
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Progressive people tend to think progressive things are good, and conservative people tend to think conservative things are good, so that makes sense. I've never really viewed myself as either progressive or conservative so they hold no intrinsic value to me. I think of myself as more of the free-thinking philosophical type, so pretty much anything backwards is fair game to me.
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:23 PM
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I'm not being judgemental even though I know it's easy to try to discredit my assertions by just writing me off as judgemental, but the reality of it is that I am playing devil's advocate because I don't agree with you but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for the sake of a friendly debate. Your respose doesn't demonstrate that I'm an insecure and judgemental person, all that it demonstrates is that you have a penchant for men that cry daily, drink sweet alcohol, and hate beer. That's lite…
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:16 PM
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These days people blindly think that anything progressive automatically = good. South Park even did a few episodes about this. Me personally, I'm not drinking anything to appear progressive or masculine. A drink is just a fucking drink to me...
/r/seduction12/07/20 10:20 AM
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I don't know. I just don't like them because they're sour sugary poison (I'm a health freak), but my guess is that the other poster is stereotyping margaritas as a "girly drink." So if a man drinks a margarita he's progressive and open minded and if he drinks beer he's buying into traditional gender roles. Do people not see how absurd this all is?
/r/seduction12/07/20 09:31 AM
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These men aren't trying to be sexist in saying that. We've established that not all women wear "revealing" clothing to show off or impress others. But you do have to acknowledge that because some women actually do dress to impress others, some men believe that all women dress to impress others. This is confusing for many men, particularly the less socially aware types, because on one hand you have women deliberately portraying themselves as sex objects for attention, while on the other hand we h…
/r/seduction12/07/20 09:15 AM
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You're getting caught up in stereotypes. A man crying doesn't make a man feminine and a woman liking cars doesn't make a woman masculine. You're literally the one promoting gender role stereotypes if that's how you define masculinity and feminity. What I'm talking about is energetic. All people are energetically masculine and feminine. And ideally a man is mostly masculine energy and a little bit feminine, while a woman is mostly feminine energy and a little bit masculine. Nobody said anything a…
/r/seduction12/07/20 08:32 AM
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So let it be known I hate the obnoxious PUA guys, but one of the things they get right is that it is imperative to hold masculine frame and create a "man to woman" interaction. This will help keep you centered in your masculine energy and it will keep the woman centered in her feminine energy. A woman wants to date a man that makes her feel like a woman, and rightfully so becuase I want to date a woman that makes me feel like a man. She wants her opposite and I want my opposite. This is becoming…
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:58 AM
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What do you think would be the best ways for a man to do this? I'm a writer so I'm pretty solid with the eloquent words part, it's more so bringing about the complicated emotions and translating that into a real life relationship. I'd be happy to PM you if you don't want to talk about this here.
/r/seduction12/07/20 03:39 AM
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You know, I've heard that good sex is supposed to be more mental than physical. And that if you can stimulate a woman mentally, all the physical stuff will follow like clockwork. I think there's truth to this, for both men and women, but maybe even more so women. It's underrated.
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:40 AM
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Unless the woman texting you this is your daughter, you're in dude.
/r/seduction12/07/20 02:15 AM
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I think that occurs because many guys have talked to girls like that and got a horrible reaction and then internalized that it must have been something they said, did, or there is something inherently wrong with them. So they want to everything they can to prevent that experience from happening again. I remember when I was younger I never even entertained the idea that a woman just might not know how to talk to a man or accept a compliment. As I get older the more I realize how socially inept so…
/r/seduction12/07/20 01:48 AM
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I love lots of women's parts, and the brain is definitely one of them. A girl that can hold a deep or intellectual conversation is wildly attractive.
/r/seduction12/07/20 01:35 AM
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I knew this was going to get downvoted. It's still okay for women to have preferences for taller/larger men and nobody cares. But a man with preferences for smaller/slimmer women is seen as somehow disrespectful towards women. The double standard is astounding.
/r/seduction12/07/20 01:02 AM
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A woman's desire for learning, knowledge, and education is a serious turn on.
/r/seduction12/07/20 12:32 AM
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The real dating problem that most men have is low self-esteem, lack of self-confidence, discomfort with their own sexuality and masculinity, and a lack of understanding of women's behavior and expressions. I've been really surprised by some of the girls that have shown interest in me before. A lot of attractive women already had stunning boys when they were young and it's played out for them. They're more impressed by a man that owns himself and makes her feel like a woman.
/r/seduction12/07/20 12:24 AM
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This has more to do with whether or not a girl finds you subjectively attractive rather than you being objectively attractive, but I've found that girl's who percieve me to be good looking/high status tend to have less tolerance for mistakes because they have higher expectations. Coincidentally, if you do things correctly, they're generally more impressed and excited as well because they see you as the "catch" in these situations.
/r/seduction12/07/20 12:14 AM
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Right on. Since you mentioned this, it got me thinking. Because times where I was meeting or dating a girl and I could tell she was deliberately trying to impress me, I thought it was cute, but it didn't necessarily make me more attracted to her. What's more attractive is when a woman is already doing impressive shit for herself and I just like it.
/r/seduction11/07/20 11:41 PM
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Let me ask you a question, would you date a girl that weighed more than you did? Chances are girls are almost always going to go for guys that are taller than them. I'm 5'10 so I'm only 4 inches taller than you. But I only really date girls that are 5'9 or less and weigh less than I do. This is mostly programmed into our biololgy. Women want to feel small, and feminine, and protected. I want to feel big, masculine, and strong. So I'm naturally attracted to petite women. You are disadvantaged to …
/r/seduction11/07/20 07:59 PM
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So when you were a little kid you were doing shit just to impress women? Start doing shit to impress yourself. It's natural to do things to impress women because sex is truly most people's main motivation in life. And the consumer market exploits this to infinity. This is why we literally live in a sex culture. If you want to break out of this cycle then stop worrying about impressing women and worry about impressing yourself. I won't lie to you, part of why I take good care of myself and dress …
/r/seduction11/07/20 10:27 AM
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There's a few reasons girls do this: Most likely she's using tinder as a marketing platform for her social media accounts. Just so you know, girls that give you their instagram aren't serious about going out with you. If a girl seriously wants to see you she will gladly give your her phone number. Don't be a sucker for this stuff. Option 2 is that like many girls she has low self-esteem and uses the attention she gets from guys to give her an ego boost. Option 3 is that she's messing around with…
/r/seduction11/07/20 09:06 AM
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I think it's pretty normal to clam up around people you really like, you definitely aren't alone there because I do it too. Another trend I've noticed here is that women spend an enormous amount of time trying to attract men by emulating what they would find attractive in a man, while men do the respective opposite. I've noticed that what we have as a result is women trying raise their attractiveness through their careers, finances, and independence, while men are trying to raise their attractiv…
/r/seduction11/07/20 12:42 AM
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This is a stupid argument, and not all sex results in procreation. Your genetics aren't going to die off because you're too ugly to procreate. Your genetics are going to die off because you're on the internet complaining that you can't get laid because you're too ugly, rather than taking the necessary action it would take to improve your chances of getting laid. Women aren't going to just throw free pussy at you while you sit at home on reddit. Somewhere deep down you believe you have a chance o…
/r/seduction10/07/20 07:16 PM
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"The eyes, chico. They never lie." Never forget this. Eye contact is one of the most powerful seduction tools a man can use. A girl can't hide her true feelings when they're reflected in her eyes. But just as her eyes reveal herself to you, your eyes will reveal yourself to her. This won't work if you're a fraud. You have to believe in yourself and own the seduction first.
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:51 PM
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See guys, we have men coming out here saying they even lose interest in a girl if the eye contact isn't on point. If it's that important to some of us guys, think about how important it is to womem that are expecting you to be confident and are expecting you to seduce her.
/r/seduction10/07/20 06:46 PM
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So what the girls mean when they say didn't feel any sexual chemistry is that there's a lack of sexual tension between the two of you. Sexual tension is what separates friendly platonic people from romantic people. You should be honest with yourself and consider do you truly like these girls, or do you just want to get laid? Because I've noticed that when I really like a girl the sexual tension is hard to contain. It's just kind of flows out. If you really do like the girls then the problem prob…
/r/seduction09/07/20 11:13 PM
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I may be a Grand Master, but we are all Knowledge Seekers.
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:49 PM
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I'd more or less agree with this, but I look at it from a slightly different perspective. Acting needy is just straight up unattractive. You shouldn't act needy even if you're being true to yourself. So I don't think of acting less needy than you actually are as game, I think of it as being smart. You aren't tricking the girl or acting like something you're not. You're just keeping a leash on one of your less attractive qualities. I think it's pretty normal for us to feel needy until we start ha…
/r/seduction09/07/20 03:11 AM
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I know you want a checklist with bulletpoints and a three act structure, but that isn't how sex works. Here's what girls want: They want you to tap into your instincts and intuition as a man and vibe with them. Feel her presence, read her body language, and escalate accordingly. Stay out of your head and dissolve into the moment. Use your masculinity to seduce her and turn her on. The paradox to all of this is that you probably won't be able to do much of this without prior experience unless you…
/r/seduction09/07/20 12:44 AM
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You don't have to bring it up. I never had a girlfriend until I had my first girlfriend. I never had a kiss until I had my first kiss. And I didn't tell either girl they were my first. I could also potentially be some girl's first boyfriend or first kiss without even realizing it. Movies, music, TV, and books make a big spectacle about these things but your first experiences are special only because they belong to you. When it happens, don't focus on the milestone just enjoy the moment.
/r/seduction08/07/20 11:51 PM
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It took me a while to figure this one out too dude so I think that's pretty normal. You have to remember that women bring out different sides of themselves for different men. A lot of her behavior will be reflective of your behavior. This is how it's been for me: Girl: "You're kind of a player, aren't you?" Me: "Well, I'm a lover. But I'm damn selective." End of discussion.
/r/seduction08/07/20 11:33 PM
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Abundance mindset is knowing, not pretending, but KNOWING that you have an abundance of options, so there's no need to chase or pine over a single girl.
/r/seduction08/07/20 11:13 PM
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You handle this like a pimp would. I'm speaking metaphorically for those that need it spelled out for them. You put yourself out there and shoot your best shot. It doesn't matter if you are the only guy that approaches her or if 10 guys approach her. The girl chooses. If she chooses you, you win. If she chooses a different guy, you cut your losses and move on. You shouldn't worry about girls that choose other guys over you. If a girl doesn't want you then you should just let it go and find a gir…
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:43 PM
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There's no benefit in ever telling a girl you were using game on her under any circumstance what so ever. The reason is because girls don't want guys that know game and pickup. Girls want guys that are real and authentic and comfortable and confident being themselves from day one. They're always going to get upset about it because you straight up told them that you tricked them by using manipulation tactics to seduce them. Imagine how you would react if you fell for a girl that was really soft a…
/r/seduction08/07/20 08:10 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. I'm 28, but I had a woman in her early 30s try to pick me up for a hookup. She said I was really attractive for my age because I looked like I was like 16 years old. I don't think I look 16 at all but you can definitely date older women even if you look young for your age. Some women are into that. Oddly enough, I have the hardest time with women that are my age. The women that are really into me either wind up being in their 30s or practically teenagers. My gue…
/r/seduction08/07/20 07:48 PM
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Yeah, this is the real reason. It is vain and it's cringey. Most men weren't raised to take pictures of themselves to show off to girls. A lot of us that remember a world before social media find this over-empahsis on image cringey and obnoxious, whether consciously or subconsciously.
/r/seduction08/07/20 04:34 AM
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It's not internalized misogyny. Photography is not a "girl" or a "boy" thing. He feels weird and embarassed about taking pictures of himself to display on the internet to get dates because it feels inherently narcissistic. This however is a pretty common "guy" problem. There's something subconsciously unsettling about reducing your entire sex appeal to a couple of photos and a short bio.
/r/seduction08/07/20 04:27 AM
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You've actually told girls you were using game on them? Did you expect not to get a negative reaction telling them that?
/r/seduction08/07/20 04:18 AM
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I'm only 28 but I like younger women and I'm open to dating women as young as 18. I just wanted to tell you that as a man you should never allow other people to scrutinize you for liking or dating younger women. Men are biologically programmed to be attracted to young and fertile women because they are physically more capable of carrying healthier offspring. You can't help your attraction to younger women because it's nature. My real beef with this is that it's a massive double standard. If a yo…
/r/seduction08/07/20 04:11 AM
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Most introverts aren't really empowered to develop themselves in a way that's true to our nature while growing up, which I think is the core issue here. It takes a lot of work for guys to develop themselves like you described but meditation/mindfulness definitely helps. I've also noticed most introverted women around my age seem to be closed off or somewhat disconnected from their true nature as well. But I still love introverted women.
/r/seduction08/07/20 12:02 AM
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Not everyone is living with the same level of panic/worry as others. I rarely bother to wear a mask when I go out in public, and if I met up with a girl and decided I liked her, I'd go for the kiss too. It's all relative to perspective.
/r/seduction07/07/20 10:39 PM
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I'm not mad. I see guys trying to make this argument here everyday and it's WEAK. Your father got laid, your grandfather got laid, and all your ancestors sons, fathers, and grandfathers got laid. If they didn't, you wouldn't be here. So please explain to me how out of 3.5 billion women on the planet, what's so damn wrong with you that you can't find one single woman that wants to sleep with you? Because I'm not buying the "I'm too ugly" defense.
/r/seduction07/07/20 07:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing this! I really wanted other guys to see how naturally equipped we really are to be sexy once we harness our true presence. Do you find guys with this vibe to be pretty rare?
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:04 PM
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Thanks for sharing! I've noticed that when I tend to feel nervous around women or try to force a fun and positive vibe, they seem to reflect that and feel awakward as well. I find if I can really push through that nervous tension and calm myself down and just be present with a woman, it almost always works out well for me.
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:53 PM
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When I say "low energy" it isn't to imply an absence of energy, which is what I think some people interpret that as. It's not that an extrovert has an abundance of energy and an introvert has an absence of energy at all. It's just a different form of enegry. You can be an energetic introvert, but it's a slow and steady energy (think the tortoise and the hare proverb). An introvert's energy is in his presence. That calm and stable presence you refer to can really get girls excited.
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:48 PM
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I don't know who you're referring to, but I can throw this out there: all the male characters in movies and tv shows that I thought were charasmatic badasses, they're almost always introverted characters. I'm struggling to think of an extroverted movie character that I would describe as seductive. I actually believe that seduction comes more naturally to introverted men, once you can get over the initial hurdle of warming up to a new girl and feeling the comfort to express yourself authentically…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:21 PM
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Weak.
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:13 PM
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Think of introversion like it's the force and you're a Jedi in training. Since the extroverts out number us, we have a rare skill set they cannot access. Think of the empowerment that one could obtain from refining and perfecting such a skillset. I'd love to hear how my writing changed your perspective if you want to share.
/r/seduction07/07/20 08:27 AM
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Guys, here's dating tip number 21: Observe a woman's behavior rather than following her words. Many women buy into the "it's 2020 gender doesn't exists" garbage because it sounds wonderful to the people that choose to live in PC fantasy land. Most women that say stuff like that have been conditioned to believe it but subconsciously the really don't want it. You can observe it through their behavior.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:50 AM
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No problem man. I want to help other introverts make the same transformations I did. If I get really good and reach all my goals I might even write a book about it someday. It's such a deep and unexplored topic.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:41 AM
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This list is a list of what NOT to do. It's all unattractive shit guys think they're supposed to do, but women hate it. So what you're basically saying when you say that this is what you're looking for in a guy is that you want a guy with an attitude that is confident in himself and comfortable in his own skin, and treats you like he treats a normal person except with some sexual tension sprinkled in. Am I correct? Because if so we're about to make a bunch of dudes brains explode here. They will…
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:22 AM
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Guys, notice that she says "quiet confidence" "calm humor" "leads by intelligence." These are introvert strengths. Could you imagine a world where extroverts were emulating this behavior? Can you picture that image? That's how stupid we look emulating extroverts.
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:09 AM
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So we live in a society that is geared towards extroversion. Introversion is fairly stigmatized in America. Most of my life I was very unhappy, never felt a sense of belonging, and had severe anxiety. Went through a lot of rough shit growing up and grew to hate people. I also knew I liked bonding with the right people and feeling deep connections and feared being lonely/abandonment because I never felt the security of belonging. But I also felt like socializing was like having to put on a perfor…
/r/seduction07/07/20 06:05 AM
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You're lucky, it took me forever to learn this. This doesn't just apply to dating either, it's life in general. I always thought I had to act all animated and outgoing and perform for everyone like friends, parents, co-workers. I had severe anxiety and accepted it as my default state because it was all I knew all my life. But ever since I embraced the fact that I'm a low energy introverted dude I'm happier and I feel way more comfortable in my own skin. I'm just a different breed and I've learne…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:27 AM
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I never said that it was bad, but I wanted to keep it 100% real with OP because I do stereotype girls that approach over eagerly in sexualized venues. The key here is that this only works when the guy is comfortable being used for sex because he also wants to use the girl for sex too. Because then both parties are getting what they want. If a girl approaches me in a nonsexualized setting, I know there's some level of genuine attraction involved. No beer goggles or impaired judgement. It's hard t…
/r/seduction07/07/20 05:12 AM
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No problem, I wish girls did this more often so I'm glad to help. You sound like you might be a lot like me. I'm a really sexual guy but I'm also really selective. I don't like sleeping around or having one night stands. I like finding girls I'm really attracted to and then going fucking ham with them. But I've had a couple of girls ask me if I was a "player." So I didn't mention this because I'm a really introverted and intuitive guy, so I don't know how well it works on average guys, but the "…
/r/seduction06/07/20 10:26 PM
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Most of 1-19 can be summarized in number 20. Most of these mistakes are basically weird things guys do but they shouldn't. That's all dating mistakes are. Weird behavioral things guys have learned to do but doesn't work. It's pretty comprehensive though. I think it would be beneficial to follow this up with a list of what to do, to help guys replace these bad habits. The only one I disagree with you on is number 5. I'm a super introverted and low energy guy. When I act high energy or extroverted…
/r/seduction06/07/20 10:00 PM
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It's because they've never actually had it happen before. So guys have some porno fantasy in their head when they say that. Like they think young French models are going to just walk up to them and throw sex at them. When girls immediately proposition sex like this it's just weird and creepy in real life. See, the women that approach aggressively like that actually are desperate. That's why it feels that way. Most girls that aren't desperate don't approach guys because they don't have to. It's l…
/r/seduction06/07/20 09:33 PM
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So I think a lot of the other guys that are responding to you are either very inexperienced with women in general or at very least being approached by women or they have very low standards. Women approaching comes off way better to me in non-sexualized venues. So what I'm saying is, when women appraoch me in a bar I tend to stereotype them as "players" and assume they do that quite a lot. If I'm attracted to you, I'll still probably be into it, but I'm also still making the assumption that it's …
/r/seduction06/07/20 08:51 PM
1

See, in a normal society where people behaved rationally then you are absolutely correct. Men should treat women like women and women should treat men like men. What's going on here is because we are living in a culture of political correctness people are trying to dissolve the concept of biological gender roles. The result of this is that men are losing their instincts to behave like men and women are losing their instincts to behave like women. A few decades ago we wouldn't even be having this…
/r/seduction05/07/20 12:06 PM
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They're just mad because they believe that everyone should share their viewpoint simply because it's their viewpoint. It's like entitlement + narcissism × 100.
/r/seduction28/06/20 01:41 AM
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Thank you for saying that man. Glad I could help. It's a big distinction because a man to woman interaction isn't really platonic. If it's a man to woman interaction you aren't really trying to be her friend. You're showing her you're a man and making her feel like a woman. So I'd say it's sexual by default. Many people also refer to this as masculine frame because if you want a woman to be sexually interested in you then you can't really treat her like you would treat a friend. You have to trea…
/r/seduction28/06/20 01:37 AM
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I think we are in agreement, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people don't share the same perspective we do. I've developed my social skills to get pretty good at reading signs but some men just don't seem to have the awareness for it. Reading people's signs cuts out a lot of these problems. But like I said my initial posts were mostly aimed at men. I don't think women really realize how much some men worry about being labelled creepy or predatory. That's like the worst thing we ca…
/r/seduction28/06/20 01:02 AM
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I see what you mean by scam now. I agree that the level of shadiness involved in those examples is creepily suspect. Like, if a woman gave me an address to a restaurant that was really her house I would think that was creepy as hell too so I don't think that's a male or female thing in that sense. See, I think I'm a normal guy, so I would have just invited the girl to the park then invited her over afterwards. If I wanted a girl to come straight over I'd say so. What makes this creepy to me was …
/r/seduction28/06/20 12:41 AM
1

Please don't take this as me being condescending because I already told you in my first response to you that I agree with you wholeheartedly, but you're looking at this from a woman's perspective and overlooking the nuance of what I'm saying because this was directed towards men. I'm not blaming women for being scared of predatory men. This post was never was about blaming women. We're all in agreement here that presatory men are bad. Let's stop with the "you're blaming women" defense. This is w…
/r/seduction28/06/20 12:26 AM
1

Interesting. I don't really see it as a game though. As a man, I'm attracted to feminine women with feminine attributes. So it only makes sense that a feminine woman would want her opposite. A masculine man with masculine attributes. It's just how sexual polarity works. Men in women balance each other out when they're in the right energy. That's the core of the issue here, masculine women and feminine men...
/r/seduction28/06/20 12:07 AM
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I think you might be misinterpreting what were saying here. I'm not sure how this anecdote really applies. It sounds like you were showing interest but were scared to own it so she initiated for you.
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:58 PM
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I absolutely agree with you. But the root of the issue is that some women stereotype all men as disrespectful, predatory and rapey regardless in the same way that some men stereotype all women as slutty, loose, or easy regardless. The line is blurry because men are losing the instinct to take the sexual lead and women have vastly different ideas and beliefs about what does and doesn't qualify as consent. So people are very confused and scared right now because most people really are trying to be…
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:54 PM
1

So if a man tried to get you to come home with him and you were ready would it still be a scam? I'm not trying to trap you in a debate here, I'm legitimately curious what makes it a scam? OP's girl brought him home and OP wasn't ready for sex so was she scamming him? Like why is showing sexual interest a scam?
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:29 PM
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There's no whining. I don't care if you dislike it. Downvote me all day. I answered the question thorougly and honestly. If it offends you that's YOUR CHOICE.
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:19 PM
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I really have no qualms about fulfilling my role and expectations as the boyfriend so long as the girl fulfills her role and expectations as the girlfriend. The probelm is half the women renouce this stuff and call us disrespectful, predatory, and toxic, while the other half of the women are all like "where the confident guys at?" So now men and women have lost the instinct to do what originally came naturally to them for millenniums.
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:11 PM
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It provides contrast by explaining what ISN'T a man to woman interaction. This is a seduction forum, get over yourself. No need to get your PC panties all wadded up.
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:00 PM
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I agree more or less but I've noticed that this kind of stuff usually only works on the more confident or socially aware guys. I've noticed many guys (myself included in the past) tend to miss these signals simply due to low self image or social ineptitude. I can't even begin to tell you how many options I blew with hot girls when I was younger just because I wasn't convinced at the time that I deserved a girl of that caliber, even when they were literally handing the seduction to me. Confidence…
/r/seduction27/06/20 10:50 PM
1

You guys can downvote me all you want but this is the definition of a "man to woman" interaction. This accurately answers OP's question whether you agree with it thematically or not.
/r/seduction27/06/20 09:25 PM
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I'm not suggesting you try and get her to do feminine stuff, just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all. Many of the women I've dated do shit like this. In fact, the more liberated-feminist types stereotype men's behavior even more than the normal girls do in my experience. But generally you want to keep a woman in her feminie energy and keep yourself in your masculine energy. Just be aware of that at all times.
/r/seduction27/06/20 09:15 PM
6

It means behaving like a man and treating a woman like a woman in the classic sense. Rather than interacting with all this gender neutral platonic nonsense people are so stoked on these days.
/r/seduction27/06/20 09:06 PM
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It's funny because most men will take these opportunities to show off their masculinity by feeding into the stereotypes. If the roles were reversed, unless you were seeing a feminie woman, you'd be getting a lot of shit for asking her to do stereotypical female shit like this.
/r/seduction27/06/20 09:04 PM
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Girls are going to expect you to handle this aspect of the interaction. They mostly expect us to handle all of the sex related stuff. They want to play defense to our offense. Even girls I've been in long term relationships with still expected me to be in charge of all the sexual progressions pretty much all the time. Understand that men are as much of a mystery to women as women are to us. Don't let the overconfident feminist types fool you, they don't understand men nearly as well as they thin…
/r/seduction27/06/20 09:00 PM
1

I have acne scars and it still bothers me, but I used to worry about it so much more than I do now. I noticed that there are lots of highly atrractive women that have acne scars too and that wouldn't stop me from dating them. And this is on top of them wearing makeup and they're still pretty to me. So I think this isn't as big of a deal to women as we think.
/r/seduction27/06/20 03:57 PM
2

Hey man, I'm a lot like you, same age and everything. I want to try and help you because it helps me in the process too. I think I might be more experienced than you though so here's some things I've learned over the years: There's no right way to ask a girl out of it works. But rather than asking a girl out, invite her out. This way it's more like she's rejecting the invitation rather than rejecting you. Here's the difference: "You seem like a cool girl, would you like to go out with me sometim…
/r/seduction27/06/20 03:13 PM
1

I have a friend who rather than just straight up inviting me to hang out, he hits me up and tells me to let him know if I would want to hang out. I find this to be the oddest way to make plans and it woke me up to how unconfident this phrase sounds because it basically forces the other person to make the first move even though you delivered the invitation. So now I avoid say things like "let me know if you want to hang out later this week." In your case, she's really saying "I'll let you know if…
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:46 PM
1

The hard part is finding all the other Neos of the world. This would be the golden ticket for achieving these deeper friendships and relationships based on authenticity.
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:40 PM
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I find online to be pretty brutal because people just straight up ignore you or quit talking and don't even specify why. Atleast it real life you build up confidence and resilience by taking risks, and you can usually learn from your mistakes based on the girl's reactions. It was never meant to be rude. That's why I said "I know you're just playing the game OP." Cause it's not personal. It's just the way these platforms work. And everyone knows it but nobody else will say it. Things don't have t…
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:36 PM
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I don't think people even realize just how fake and contrived it all really is, but it's crazy when you realize how much time and energy people will waste of their lifetime following these things. People would rather consume all this content rather than connect with their families, community, connecting with hobbies, etcetera. I've tried to ditch the system but it's lonely. I spoke to a wise man that instead urged me to find a way to make the system work for me within my own parameters, but to n…
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:28 PM
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Word. I keep getting downvoted so this stuff must be getting under people's skin. So what do you have better results with, real life or online?
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:19 PM
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You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. I'll rant about how fake Rolex is too if it's warranted. I work in media. I see this shit every day and it gets old, so you'll have to excuse my silliness but I get sick of how fake, contrived, and inauthentic everything has become.
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:13 PM
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I just hate that it has to be so shallow. Most of the photos I see of girls on these apps, it's so obvious to me that they're posing for a photo opp. It's so obvious that they're trying to show off the best parts of their body. It's so obvious that they're trying to make it look like they live some wild and crazy life that they probably don't and it really turns me off. You can't reduce an entire person into a couple of photos and a one sentence bio. People have confidence, vibes, energy, person…
/r/seduction27/06/20 02:08 PM
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Just looking out for OP.
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:54 PM
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No I understand that, but it doesn't really change my position on why I think this is a bad move.
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:52 PM
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What part of it is real and authentic? The scripted lines? The cropped photos? You said you pretty much just sit at home, but the purpose of the photos is to create the illusion that you live a diverse and exciting life. I'm not bashing you OP, I'm bashing dating apps in general. I don't understand how people don't realize how fake this whole process is. And how shallow it is because it's based solely on creating a contrived image.
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:49 PM
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It's not that smooth to start touching a girl's thigh or neck and then say "do you wanna kiss me?" This is kind of a weird way to initiate a first kiss, especially if you're in public. This move may work on teenagers but most adult women are going to be turned off by this.
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:40 PM
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Man this shit is so fake. I know you're just playing the game OP, but are people blind to how fake and shallow this shit is?
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:30 PM
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Don't do this OP this isn't smooth.
/r/seduction27/06/20 01:24 PM
1

Dude you'll only drive yourself crazy overanalyzing this. Give her a few days to respond. If you want to text her again, take that chance. It's your life, you should do whatever you want to do. She's probably not worrying about you right now becasue she's living her life doing whatever she wants to do. So if you never hear from her again, FUCK HER.
/r/seduction26/06/20 07:59 PM
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This is a really difficult question for me to answer because I got my first girlfriend as a teenager. So I learned most of these skills intuitively and instinctively just by dating girls. To be honest with you, I'm not a big fan of hookups. I like to have relationships or friends with benefits. I don't want to sleep with a woman one time only to never see her again unless there's some logistical issue like we met on vacation or something. Relationships are completely different from hooking up in…
/r/seduction26/06/20 07:45 PM
2

Yeah, it's very attractive. I've actually given girls I wouldn't have approached a fair chance because they made the first move. I don't think women realize how underrated this is.
/r/seduction26/06/20 02:17 PM
2

I agree. Even if I'm not attracted to them, I still respect them for having the tits to own their interest and show it.
/r/seduction26/06/20 12:54 PM
1

Yeah execpt it's not accurate. You need to forget about what you think you know and start opening up to some of us that have been there and actually know.
/r/seduction26/06/20 12:11 PM
1

That's been my experience as well. Many of the girls I catch checking me out are unattractive to me or below my standards of interest. Or they are out with their boyfriend or some random guy I'm assuming is their boyfriend. I always laugh at that because it defies the stereotype that men can't keep their eyes on their partner. I take it as an indirect compliment. Like she's so bored with her boyfriend she'd rather take a look at me instead. This is interesting because I'm white and I have the re…
/r/seduction26/06/20 10:12 AM
1

Interesting. Do people really use online dating to make friends? I'm on the same page as you there. I see it as a quality over quantity approach to dating. I also would describe what we are discussing as the mindset of a seducer. I see pickup as a completely different thing. Seduction is genuine. Pickup is just selfishly fulfilling needs/desires. Any tips on developing sass or outcome independence? I'm not sure what sass even means in this context honestly. I developed a level of outcome indepen…
/r/seduction26/06/20 09:55 AM
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You aren't going to get a real girlfriend or a long term relationship out of a hookup. That's not usually how that works. It sounds like you lack these skills based on the way you type and because you've never had experience with a real long term relationship. You need to realize that when a girl hooks up with you, she knows you're just trying to use her for sex. The twist is that most of the time she's just trying to use you for sex too. Most men don't see women they hookup with as material for…
/r/seduction26/06/20 09:05 AM
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Healthy confidence and the habits of the 99% aren't exclusive to men. Overconfident asshole narcissistic men are probably sleeping with overconfident bitchy narcissistic women. You should also keep in mind that some women will prefer to date assholes with arrogance and sex appeal over unconfident insecure guys that lack sex appeal. It's not that it's necessarily a woman's preference, but genuinely confident self assured masculine men with sex appeal aren't all that common anymore. So the asshole…
/r/seduction25/06/20 04:54 PM
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Dude that's crazy, I couldn't have said it better myself. I had no idea what was going on either when I started getting looks and attention from girls. I thought I was getting judged or punked or something, like there's no chance in hell a girl could be looking at me in a postive way lol. I'm glad I'm not alone here. Do you tend to approach these girls or just enjoy the moment?
/r/seduction25/06/20 04:17 PM
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Yeah. I also grew up with a lot of bullying, didn't really have friends, screwed over by a lot of girls, got into drugs at a young age, the works. So I'm kinda surprised by some of the girls I get looks from now. Obviously they have no knowledge of my past, but I remember how it used to be when girls straight up avoided me...
/r/seduction25/06/20 02:34 PM
2

Yeah, I agree that fit goes farther than style. Confidence + clothing you like AND that fits you well is the deadly combination. In my experience, style is realtive to the types of girls you attract. I'm probably not turning the heads of any cheerleaders. I tend to do better with the gamer girls, alternative chicks, artsy fartsy women, etc.
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:24 PM
1

This isn't true. You don't have to be shredded with a Lambo just to get looks from women. Just be cute and healthy with a good sense of style. Confident and masculine. Will you have women chasing you down the street like a damn axe commercial? No, but that's unrealistic. I don't know what the hell "insta-laid" even means, but with realistic expectations this stuff works. Men actually used to be stylish, sexual, flirtatious, playful, etc. This stuff used to be common and acceptable a few decades …
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:10 PM
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So despite what everyone else says, I actually believe in America men of this generation are actually more sexually repressed than women are, which is why many people have a problem with this kind of stuff. It was the other way around back in the day, but it isn't anymore. And it's currently it's very acceptable to repress men's sexuality. From my experience, girls do like this kind of stuff, but they don't like that they like it. It probably makes them feel slutty about themselves or causes som…
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:02 PM
1

What is it about the color grey? Would black or any other color have the same effect?
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:51 PM
2

Many people these days avoid eye contact. It's something you have to work on if you didn't learn it growing up. People have become really socially awkward because of technology and social media so I'd say that's pretty common these days.
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:29 PM
2

Maybe. But in my experience she's giving me attention and validating me in the process if she initiated the eye contact. Especially if I don't return the eye contact. This is often an approach invitation though. I've also inititiated the eye contact and gotten this in return. But regardless, it's an opportunity to play with her.
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:17 PM
1

I thought I answered pretty thoroughly. What else would you like to know?
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:34 AM
1

Yeah I rock backwards hats too.
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:31 AM
1

Do you have any tips for getting into this mindstate? I'm too serious sometimes so I get inconsistent results with this.
/r/seduction25/06/20 01:06 AM
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Looking people in the eye, flashing smiles, initiating interactions, helping people, standing up for people, giving free compliments with no expectations, maintiaing a positive attitude, motivating others, facing fears, sharing with others, owning your flaws and mistakes, giving without recieving, the list goes on and on. Most people are self-absorbed, narcissistic, insecure, and validation seeking. Pick a real person or a movie character you think is confident and study their behavior.
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:49 AM
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You have a cool mom. When I was your age my parents tried to cock block me everytime I brought a girl home. In hindsight it really messed me up psychologically because I felt emasculated and internalized that my sexuality was a bad and negative thing. Your mom is low key trying to help you become a man. I'm jealous dude.
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:42 AM
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You appear confident by not doing the shit the rest of the 99% of the population does.
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:36 AM
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I think there's a lot of variables here based on the people and the culture you're around that determines what is or isn't douchey. When I think douchey, I tend to think of those Jersey Shore guys, the country boy look, or dudes that cover themselves with bling and designer clothing. I would stereotype these guys as douchebags. To give you some context I'm 5'10 white, lean, thick brown hair and dark brown eyes. I'm kinda the artsy-rebellious type. I wear stuff like tight black t-shirts or V neck…
/r/seduction25/06/20 12:28 AM
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Honestly man, every time I leave the house thinking "wow, I kinda look like a douchebag in this outfit..." That's when I get the most attention from women. I think of it like this. Women shit all over each other for dressing slutty, but guys like it, right? Men judge each other for dressing douchey, but women appear to like it. On me atleast.
/r/seduction24/06/20 11:57 PM
3

Dude you're getting trolled.
/r/seduction24/06/20 10:21 PM
1

This is what women do when they're into you. It doesn't mean that she'll date you or sleep with you, but it does mean that she's attracted to you. If you want a seduction to be easy - this is the moment. I'll also tell you though, I've had women do this to me and make it creepy. It can get pretty intense. I don't know how common this is for other guys, because nobody really talks about it, but it's something I'm becoming more comfortable with and I know how to enjoy it now.
/r/seduction24/06/20 08:18 PM
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Thank you
/r/seduction24/06/20 07:43 PM
2

When a man and a woman are equally attracted to each other. She thinks he's hot and he thinks she's hot. They both pick up on it and things escalate from there. As men, women will generally expect us to do the escalating. They're the mice and we're the cats in this scenario.
/r/seduction24/06/20 07:36 PM
9

This sounds redundant, but a really good seduction is when both a man and a woman are seducing each other at the same time. It's like a sensual game of cat and mouse where both parties are pushing each others buttons and racking up the sexual tension without acknowledging it verbally.
/r/seduction24/06/20 07:24 PM
2

I get your point man. I've just learned to stop caring about this kind of stuff. If someone gets offended by a simple "hello" I really don't care. That's a bigger reflection of who they are than who I am. People are too self-absorbed and entitled these days and it's impossible to keep up with what every single person might find offensive. So I've just been keeping it real and doing what I was raised to believe was normal before everything got all weird a few years ago.
/r/seduction24/06/20 05:45 PM
1

I mean, you don't always have to turn every interaction into an approach. Sometimes when I see women I like I just smile and say hello to be friendly. Sometimes even with women I'm not attracted to. It used to be normal.
/r/seduction24/06/20 04:47 PM
1

Normally when I approach girls I say something along the lines of "I really dig your style." Or "you seem like you have a pretty cool vibe." Something that isn't explicity sexual and isn't as cliche as "I saw you and thought you we're cute." Sometimes you don't even have to acknowledge why you're appraoching if you set the right vibe with eye contact and whatnot, she knows because she can sense it. I just moved to a brand new city so since things are opening back up I was thinking of going with …
/r/seduction24/06/20 12:50 PM
3

It's not creepy to simle at a girl and say hello. That's just being a normal person unless you stare at her like some maniacal cracked-out lunatic.
/r/seduction24/06/20 11:39 AM
1

This is interesting man. Thanks for sharing. I am a very introverted guy and I agree that comfort level is big thing for introverts both male and female. Introverts can also be really great lovers once they feel comfortable though. It sounds like these girls may have been more on the spectrum of extreme shyness/anxiety. They don't get laid because of fear is such an interesting statement. What do you think they were so afraid of?
/r/seduction24/06/20 11:14 AM
1

This has been my experience as well. Good description.
/r/seduction24/06/20 10:47 AM
1

Not watching porn and carrying a positive energy aren't mutually exclusive phenomena. Case in point here.
/r/seduction24/06/20 10:45 AM
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People were normal in the 80s and the 90s. It's just a dumb stretch of an excuse to justify social media addiction cause we live in a "look at me" culture now.
/r/seduction23/06/20 06:51 AM
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It's because feninism and modern culture has convinced them that they are victims or circumstance and men are the victimizers. Social media culture causes people to see themselves as the center of their own universe. People don't usually act or talk like that in real life because deep down they know it's petty and disrespectful and they'll be judged for it.
/r/seduction23/06/20 06:47 AM
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Anything anyone posts online or social media is because they want other people to see it by default. It's the paradox of it all. People try to make it look so casual and nonchalant, but anything uploaded or posted on the internet is premeditated by default. Most people seeking validation would be doing hobbies and activities, dating, athletics, throwing parties, doing talent shows and shit if we were still in the 90s. You know, like actually achieving things. Everything these days is about the i…
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:52 PM
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Who said only? Seduction is just one facet of the many areas I'm constantly improving on. Unfortunately, many of the guys here have no experience/success with seduction and it's eating away at their very soul. I think this is why it is this way.
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:28 PM
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I have an anterior pelvic tilt and can't pull off a perfect squat yet. So it only makes sense that I can't pull off a perfect seduction either. Yet that doesn't stop me from squatting and seducing.
/r/seduction22/06/20 10:21 PM
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Thanks for the breakdown man! I think I might be in better shape than I'm giving myself credit for because most of those bullet points are pretty intuitive for me. The main one I struggle with is breaking the touch barrier and progressing with it. I've always allowed women to break the touch barrier with me to avoid overstepping boundaries. Kissing and all the sexual stuff comes naturally to me it's just the initial stages of touch. So it sounds like my biggest issue is simply not meeting enough…
/r/seduction22/06/20 09:53 PM
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It's just social media addiction dude. These platforms are strategically designed to suck the dopamine out of the users brain leaving them addicted. Many of the major players in silicon valley have openly admitted this. This includes reddit, facebook, youtube, all of them. Also realize that most people, which includes girls coincidentally, have really low self esteem and they're addicted to getting external validation from others. Most people want to look like they live the life of a celebrity o…
/r/seduction22/06/20 09:36 PM
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I guess I'm better off than I thought I was because 100 to 300 sounds really high to me. Thousands sounds absurd. But I guess it's all relative to your specific goals.
/r/seduction22/06/20 09:06 PM
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No dude she's actually right on this one. I am a guy and I do this and I'm telling you girls really dig it.
/r/seduction22/06/20 07:29 PM
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This is boss advice. This what people are trying to say when they say "just be yourself." Great breakdown man.
/r/seduction22/06/20 11:19 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it man. In my expereince, women really want this part of the bonding experience and they really enjoy it, unless they're just using you for sex. It's just hardwired into our biology and neurochemistry to desire intimacy with others. You don't have to overdo it. Just keep it real and be bold and share you want. Just don't do it in a way that makes you look like a depressed little pussy. That's what women don't like. You're going to get a lot of mixed answers around here bec…
/r/seduction22/06/20 11:11 AM
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Talk about childhood memories and philosophical depressing shit in the most confident and masculine ways possible. Tell it like a man and own it. I'm a highly introverted dude so I actually enjoy this and find it one of the more deeply fulfilling parts of bonding with a woman. It's part of the seduction in my mind. Get comfortable with being a huMAN.
/r/seduction22/06/20 03:41 AM
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Thanks for this man, this is the kind of advice I've been looking for. I know this is a really vague question, but what worked for you that you ended up keeping? How did it all click together when you finally figured out how to create this dating/lifestyle for yourself? I guess what I'm asking is what's the best advice to make this work for myself? I've done tons of reading/research over the years and frankly I've concluded that most dating advice is pretty useless for me because it doesn't vibe…
/r/seduction22/06/20 03:28 AM
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I figured you were about to go all PC on me.
/r/seduction22/06/20 01:23 AM
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Then why even bother asking?
/r/seduction22/06/20 01:18 AM
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He took two current social issues and made it sound like the title of a metal band or some shit. It's satire.
/r/seduction22/06/20 12:59 AM
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It's what guys are being sold on as the solution to their dating struggles.
/r/seduction22/06/20 12:57 AM
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Most guys are trepid about hitting on girls with boyfriends. So they inquire.
/r/seduction22/06/20 12:56 AM
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Yeah I've seen a handful of his videos. I thought he gave really solid advice. The only dating coach I really follow anymore is Casey Zander. He mixes dating advice with self-improvement/life skills. His whole style is about ditching the pickup tactics and just building yourself up to be as attractive and confident as possible. More my speed cause pickup was never really my thing anyway. I also thought fearless man, girls chase, and mindful attraction were all pretty solid. But like I said I try…
/r/seduction22/06/20 12:44 AM
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What dating coach is it? My problem with cold approach is that there are so many variables involved. You've gotta be pretty resilient towards rejection because I find cold approach is mostly just a numbers game. You win some lose some. Plus I mostly want to date women that I know also want me, in cold approach you really have to sell yourself unless you get an IOI or a signal.
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:36 PM
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Can't argue with that man. Some women have mad game. They can be so good we don't even realize they're gaming us. I just have to disagree with the other guy's position that women don't have to do shit because men all men have low standards. Not all men have low standards. And keep in mind women's looks/bodies/makeup are all a big part of their game. For a woman, her fundamentals is literally the most important part of her game. This is also my biggest struggle with dating bro. And it's just gett…
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:08 PM
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I don't believe that everyone attractive should be in relationships. I really do understand what you're saying. I just don't see the problem with assuming one would have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. I have a lot of male friends I don't get to see that often that always ask me if I have any girlfriends. Family memebers ask me this too. I'm often not dating any girls so I totally get you on that part. The question does get old. But I don't get offended by it because I realize that most people expe…
/r/seduction21/06/20 02:51 PM
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The biggest indicator to me is that he just met her. I've never met a girl that wasn't single that asked me if I had a girlfriend shortly after meeting her. In my expereince, girls with boyfriends don't ask that question to guys the barely know. I'm also trusting OP's ability to read whether or not someone is just making small talk vs. truly taking an interest in his life.
/r/seduction21/06/20 01:45 PM
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I would agree with this. Most women definitely have a type. I don't buy into the whole 80/20 rule or the whole incel philosophy either. Most of those guys just haven't found their way yet. But I still wholeheartedly disagree with the other guy that you initially said was correct.
/r/seduction21/06/20 01:41 PM
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At very least she's intrigued.
/r/seduction21/06/20 01:33 PM
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Yeah, your friends and your grandmother aren't a brand new girl you've just met at a new job you just started. Just about any time a girl has asked me that question shortly after meeting her it almost always led to something. Usually the girl either wanted to hook up or wanted a relationship. Maybe I'm just lucky but I assume this happens to other guys too.
/r/seduction21/06/20 01:28 PM
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This is basically what I tell people all the time when they say they want more options with women.
/r/seduction21/06/20 01:23 PM
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There's a lot of advice given on this sub. And a lot of it isn't good advice either. What have you tried? In your opinion, why didn't it help like you thought it would? Are you positive that your awareness level of your own league is accurate? "Hot" and "leagues" are very loose terms that can be interpreted fairly subjectively. What kinds of girls do you want to date? What types of relationships do you desire to have with them? What do you in your own words feel that you bring to the table in a …
/r/seduction21/06/20 12:07 PM
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Right on man. It's almost like your buddy feels like he's manipulating a girl by expressing his interest in her. I've been there and it really sucks to have that outlook on things. Girls want to hang out with cool guys they like and are attracted to. Also, nice username.
/r/seduction21/06/20 10:16 AM
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I get what you mean, but people can and do put surveillance footage on social media sometimes. Why would someone film a guy approaching a girl and put it on social media? I don't understand the point in this unless the guy was striaght up harassing the woman.
/r/seduction21/06/20 09:26 AM
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When you're in public you're pretty much always under surveillance.
/r/seduction21/06/20 09:03 AM
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Dude, if you're appraoching girls in public you're pretty much always being filmed...
/r/seduction21/06/20 08:32 AM
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I swear pornography has ruined this generation of men. I was in high school ten years ago and most of us never even considered asking a girl for nude photographs. We were too busy trying to figure out how to ask for blowjobs and shit...
/r/seduction21/06/20 08:27 AM
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Solid. I think I can answer this. It's really unfortunate but most men on a subconscious level do believe they have to manipulate women, they just don't see it as manipulation. Most men do not believe a woman will take them as they are, for who they are. So most men believe they either have to trick the woman with pickup tactics, or demonstrate value they can offer her to win her affections. Men also don't want to get rejected. So "do you have a boyfriend?" feels a lot safer than "I like you and…
/r/seduction21/06/20 07:48 AM
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Your problem is that you hate women. You hate them because you don't understand them and you blame them for whatever it is that's eating away at you inside. I tried to help you and you just give me shit for it because it's easier to blame women for your problems and ignore my advice to justify why you're an incel. Don't overdose on all those pills you're swallowing man. You CAN change.
/r/seduction21/06/20 05:52 AM
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I am absolutely the exception. But you're only looking at it from one angle. Guys here love to gush about how 80% of women only want the top 20% of men, right? So if 20% of men get 80% of women, do you really think those 20% guys will take any woman that shows a sign of interest? No, because they have so many options that they qualify women in other ways. What guys are the seductive guys that just know how to vibe with women? The upper 20%. So I'll totally agree with you that 80% of men have low…
/r/seduction21/06/20 05:13 AM
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Hey, I don't know why your response to me about getting downvoted got deleted, but this is what I was about to post: It's because the pickup community has sold men the illusion that looks don't matter as long as your game is on point. This is how they continue to sell products to ugly men. Game and seduction skills can help, but you can't feign attraction. Guys here won't believe you because around here women have a reputation for giving bad dating advice, so if you're a woman posting here guys …
/r/seduction21/06/20 05:00 AM
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Right? So the effectiveness of this line has much more to do with your attraction level to the guy asking than the line itself, would you agree? I actually use a more silly and open ended variation of this line. I'll say "So how many boyfriends you got? 3? 4? More than that?" And she'll usually laugh and say "Oh no just one." And I'll laugh with her and say something like "I'm surprised, I figured you would probably pretty popular with the boys. I thought they would be lining up to take you out!…
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:43 AM
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She's interested.
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:30 AM
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Just wanted to mention that not all men see it as an invitation. Often times they're just asking because they don't want to bother you or waste your time if you are already in a realtionship. I get your sentiment though because many guys are so used to being single they can't even fathom why a woman would want to be single because they believe all women havr their pick of the litter. They don't realize that for most women it's more about quality than quantity.
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:22 AM
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This is solid advice. Took me a minute to learn this. Unless you're trying to date her long term or have a serious relationship, don't even acknowledge that she may be seeing other guys. Chances are she is, and it tells her straight up that you're probably not the kind of guy seeing other girls so now she knows she's your only prospect.
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:16 AM
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You talk like you see men interested in dating you as your sworn enemy or something...
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:09 AM
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I don't think OP is using this on total strangers. I think these are girls he's meeting through his social circle. Why shouldn't pretty women have boyfriends? Do you realize how often women just assume confident and attractive men have girlfriends? Hell I think I'm average at best and I get hit with that line from women. But I will say I used to worry about that as well. But then I realized that as a straight man, most of the women in the LGB-whatever community aren't attractive to me anyway. No…
/r/seduction21/06/20 04:07 AM
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Pimp shit.
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:48 AM
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You can actually pull off the "of course" line with the right tone. If you feel like you're being an asshole it will most likely come off that way. You have to say it like "damn, I missed out then, huh?" You have to be completely comfortable with allowing the girl to see that you're interested in her and disappointed by her unavailability, but not in a way that it really gets under your skin or anything.
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:44 AM
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No man I definitely believe you, and I actually think we're on the same page. Game does work. It absolutely can make you more attractive and can help you pull girls that aren't all that into you initially. Not saying it never works. But if a girl has already labeled you creep, game and pickup tactics won't save you. That statement was mostly aimed at the people implying that all you need is game, and that if you can't pull a girl it therefore must be a reflection of your lack of game.
/r/seduction21/06/20 03:37 AM
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No, I'm not looking for a woman to agree with me. I never was. I simply stated my perspective AND a woman just so happened to agree with me, and called your line cringey in the process.
/r/seduction20/06/20 11:50 PM
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Yes, exactly. Thank you for sharing this! The truth is seduction works the same way for guys. If a girl doesn't meet my minimum interest for looks, I'm not attracted to her. It doesn't really matter how sweet her personality is or how willing she is to put out. It's not going to make me any more attracted. If a girl's looks spark my interest, even to a minimal extent, her personality, vibe, attitude, etc. can make a huge difference in whether or not I'd be interested in dating her. If I'm highly…
/r/seduction20/06/20 11:08 PM
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It may just be me, but I kinda dig a hairy mound. It's once the hair starts creeping down their thighs and legs and shit...different story lol.
/r/seduction20/06/20 10:49 PM
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I basically agree with you but at the end of the day, the way I see things is, results are results. No need to overcomplicate things if you're getting the desired results. For whatever reason the boyfriend line seems to be working for this guy. Like I said, if a girl is already pretty stoked on you, she just wants you to say SOMETHING. Even if it isn't the smoothest badass player seducer shit. It's just the human element in all of this.
/r/seduction20/06/20 09:28 PM
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She has a low self image. That was my problem. I didn't know what to do with female attention because I didn't believe I deserved it.
/r/seduction20/06/20 09:14 PM
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Nothing wrong with a little bush
/r/seduction20/06/20 09:10 PM
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Would you describe yourself as an intuitive and introverted dude? Because I try to go for the whole chill and mysterious vibe too and I don't see what's profound about this...but people in the comments seem to have really polarizing opinions.
/r/seduction20/06/20 09:04 PM
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The problem with this theory is that when a girl is already highly attracted to you, you can say a lot of lame shit and pull it off. This is why some girls are even adamant that nervous and awkward guys are cute. They were literally already attracted to them. If a girl is lukewarm on you to begin with with...these lines aren't that smooth or impressive. If she finds you really gross or unattractive, there 'a a good chance you'll be labelled a creep or sexual harrasser for saying shit like this. …
/r/seduction20/06/20 08:59 PM
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If anything, all the dating advice I've read online just kept me stuck in my head rather than being in the moment and made me feel even more awkward. Learning how to improve yourself, develop confidence, improve social skills. All that stuff is great. But like I said, once I get comfortable expressing myself around a girl, all the romance stuff just comes out naturally and intuitively. And the worst part is the way all these ten step guides turn meeting people and dating into a chore. Flirting w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:46 PM
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That's definitely true, I've noticed those people tend to lack self-awareness and sometimes even fall on the autism spectrum. Then people like me, who fall more on the introvert/social anixety spectrum. It's like you're behaving totally normal, but you don't trust your natural instincts and feel awkward. I've noticed most anxious people are socially fine once they get out of their heads and just trust their intuition. The people that are truly difficult to deal with are the ones you refer to, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:38 PM
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Never forget this. This is why this question always yields subjective answers.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:53 AM
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So she shuts off to guys and pushes them away? Sounds like more like she has a hang up around dating/sex/men than a fear persay. I'm just basing that off my experience with girls that couldn't take compliments/attention. Oddly enough I've had my own problems like this as a guy.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:49 AM
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They most certainly exist. We just don't hear about it.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:44 AM
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The counseling advice is good advice, but more alcohol is not good seduction advice. Don't get drunk to pick up boys. It's unnecessary. Honestly if what you want is a real relationship, bars aren't you best place to meet guys. I've never met a girl in a bar that I wanted to make into a serious girlfriend. Your best bet is to determine what kind of relationship you want and what kind of guys you want that relationship with and put yourself out there around those guys.
/r/seduction20/06/20 05:43 AM
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So she's attractive and gets attention from guys but chooses not to date? What's she afraid of?
/r/seduction20/06/20 02:49 AM
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Just interested in hearing other people's experiences with this because nobody ever talks bad (or good either) about female incels like they talk about male incels. I remember when I was in school and I can remember some of the lesser attractive and more awkward girls that never got any attention from guys. Much like the male incels, their sexual frustrations were written all over their faces. As a guy, I can see it in their body language when women are really dissatisfied. I always felt bad for…
/r/seduction20/06/20 02:46 AM
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This issue goes both ways. Women these days have this weird inferiority complex where they feel like they need to reject many traditional gender roles and compete with men and it gets kinda weird to us sometimes because most of us like women that own and embrace their femininity. Men are socialized to believe women are delicate little flowers that need to be protected and fall apart when a guy makes one wrong move. And the way they see some women act, it just confirms what they already believe. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:33 AM
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I agree with this. I'm a highly introverted guy and I struggle to connect with strangers. So when I meet a girl sometimes I feel like I'm behaving super awkward and socially inept. But once I warm up to her and get comfortable all this romance stuff just comes to me naturally. Men and women were built for each other. We're talking about millenniums of conditioning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:08 AM
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I was very big into partying when I was younger. Not even to get girls, I just enjoyed experimenting with substances. Not really into it anymore. And I really hate bars and party places, the environment is way too stimulating for me to enjoy myself anyway. Sounds like we're on the same page there. I do what I can to optimize my looks. I've been told I'm attractive but I also used to get teased for my looks a lot. I think I'm pretty average but I started taking much better care of myself and I th…
/r/seduction20/06/20 01:29 AM
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Most guys act that way because deep down they don't like themselves and aren't happy with their lives. Most of the men of this generation weren't socialized to set themselves free and become the beasts they want to be. They were socialized to be blind followers to culture and society and place women on a pedestal above themselves. The elusive "confident guy" is usually a guy that has somehow broken this cycle and is living his authentic truth. This is wildly attractive because it demonstrates th…
/r/seduction20/06/20 01:11 AM
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Absolutely not. I know what I'm talking about because I've been there. I've been so low that I couldn't even get a girl to look at me, and I've also been successful enough to be seeing multiple girls at the same time. You are correct that most women are swarmed with attention. But the truth is that most of the guys swarmimg women with all this attention aren't really the type of guys they even want attention from anyway. Most "incels" have very logical and fixable reasons as to why they do so po…
/r/seduction20/06/20 12:36 AM
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Yeah except I have never seen this question asked or answered. And the link you provided does not even remotely relate to or answer the question I asked. The point of this post really wasn't about physical limitations. It related to people's EXPERIENCES with other people with physical, emotional, and psychological limitations. I was hoping to hear from someone who had experience in this area because there is such LIMITED information on it.
/r/seduction19/06/20 05:42 PM
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To be honest with you, as a man I'm not really comfortable dancing. It's not something I want to do with other people and I don't really listen to music you can traditonally dance to anyway. Since I don't dance I'm usually not in situations like this, but I would try and get a girl alone and away from all the dancing people so I can make a real connection with her. That's more my speed.
/r/seduction19/06/20 04:17 PM
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Right. Dudes that don't watch porn carry a better energy. So girls feel more comfortable around them. It's really simple but it's just something nobody ever talks about. My suspicion is that it's because so many people watch porn that very few are actually aware of this.
/r/seduction19/06/20 04:05 PM
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50 Cent - P.I.M.P. I remember when this song came out back in 2003. Pretty much introduced me to the game.
/r/seduction19/06/20 01:44 PM
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It's totally possible for you to sleep with her without either of you catching feelings and remaining friends afterwards. But regardless you should realize that things between you two will never be the way they were before whatever that involves for you two.
/r/seduction19/06/20 01:21 PM
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I'm a super introverted dude but I don't go out much and socialize sparingly. However I love women and have a high sex drive. I want to have deep relationships with lots of women be them romantic and sexual or primarily sexual. I'd be open to juggling multiple girls at the same time, or even maintaining a serious relationship while still seeing a couple of side girls. I'm not really interested in going out and partying/socializing with them. I want to spend lots of one on one time with the girls…
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:58 PM
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Yeah this is a pretty good example. It's not so much the nervousness though. It's the suspense and anticipation. Why did she sit by me? Is this going to lead somewhere? This is so exciting.
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:42 PM
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I think that probably goes farther with girls since they often like to be the submissive ones in an interaction. I've had lots of problems with anxiety in my life so it's not my favorite feeling.
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:40 PM
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Yeah, it's not talked about much since porn is so mainstream and acceptable now, but you gotta remember that back in the day if you were a porn watcher you were considered a loser. And the problem with it is that porn just makes you awkward around women. Many of these guys that would describe themselves as "incels" spent their entire adolescence watching porn and never got the opportunity to interact with real women which totally stunted their growth socially/romantically. I consider myself one …
/r/seduction19/06/20 12:37 PM
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Right on man, totally agree. It's funny because I've literally given my friends that advice without even realizing it. I tell guys if you want a girl to chase you, you need to make her experience with you and emotional rollercoaster for her. As guys we want everything to be chill but that's often when women start creating drama. They get uncomfortable when things are going too well. So I learned to switch it up to reduce the drama. What would you say would be the benefit in making a girl feel ne…
/r/seduction19/06/20 03:32 AM
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This is spot on bro. Absolutely agree. Do you know any advice or resources on this subject to learn more and maximize results? This is exactly what I was referring to. I think some of it comes to me naturally but I'd like to learn more.
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:28 AM
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There's a small portion of men that would truly qualify for this title. Most of them are people that are mentally retarded, severe psychological illness, burn victims, missing limbs, handicapped, midgets, autism, etc. No amount of "game" can make these very real issues disappear. The "incels" you are referring to are on a different level. Most of these guys lack options for reasons that are totally fixable. Most of them often are very physically unhealthy and lack a masculine vibe and and appear…
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:24 AM
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Dude, they all "sorta have a boyfriend." That's how the game works. Sometimes it's more than one. She probably wants to make you "the other guy." Proceed with caution. And if she does leave her "boyfriend" and commit to you, know that it's only temporary.
/r/seduction19/06/20 01:00 AM
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Most girls aren't going to respond very well if you tell them straight up that you want to have sex with them like this.
/r/seduction18/06/20 08:18 AM
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That's not really how it works man.
/r/seduction18/06/20 08:10 AM
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Didn't watch the video. My gut reaction was "That dude kinda looks like a fag. I probably wouldn't hang out with him." And I don't mean fag in the gay sense of the word. You'll probably find that girls find lots of strange things sexy. It's probably the novelty this guy offers.
/r/seduction18/06/20 07:29 AM
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I guess it varies a lot then. I had better luck making friends and getting girls in high school. Most of the people I knew in college seemed pretty stuck in their shell. My college experience sucked and I hated it.
/r/seduction18/06/20 07:20 AM
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That's awesome. I took many psychology classes as electives in college. It's a hobby of mine, in hindsight I wish I actually minored in it or something. I'd love your opinion on this if you want to help, so I'll put it bluntly based on my reflections: So, I think because our mothers are our models for feminity, we learn how to interact with women through them more so than any other woman. My mother was very controlling, domineering, and judgemental. She took pride in being a self-proclaimed tomb…
/r/seduction18/06/20 06:56 AM
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The other guy summed it up pretty well. He broke down how to get there. It's mostly a mindset you cultivate through improving yourself and molding yourself into becoming the type of person you really want to be. None of this just accept me as I am crap. You have to become. I'll be honest with you, I'm not happy with where I'm at in my dating life right now. But when I was at my best, I developed this mindstate. It can get to a point where if you feel like you have more to offer than a girl, YOU …
/r/seduction18/06/20 06:12 AM
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You feel you owe her that much because you're a man and you know it's the right thing to do. It's rare for a girl to take a guy out and pay for him, so you know that gesture means something. Many women on the otherhand, they no longer value male attention and validation because they're so used to getting it. Male attention is like a stock and the markets low as hell now. And what's even worse is that many women are so used to male attention and validation they even feel entitled to it. This is t…
/r/seduction18/06/20 05:44 AM
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Can you define "having interest towards me" and "cold as ice?" We really don't know what that looks like cause we weren't there.
/r/seduction18/06/20 05:33 AM
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Like you said, I think the key here is finding people that are compatible. I tend to find a girl that meets my desires, and rather than showing my interest to her and present who I am and what I have to offer to her, I fall into the trap of trying to determine what's she's looking for to see if I fit the mold. It honestly sounds kinda lame and sneaky when I type it out like that. I'm not sure where I picked this habit up at, but I'm really bad about being a people pleaser and trying to work on t…
/r/seduction18/06/20 05:30 AM
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Hey man, I would describe myself as a heavily introverted guy with a high sex drive. I have a very small social circle and prefer to spend my time working on myself and invested in my hobbies. I would love to hear any advice you can give me to start taking steps towards creating this kind of sex life for myself. This is the type of "game" I want to learn because it suits my needs and personality. Any resources you could recommend would be welcomed too. I'd be happy to message you directly if you…
/r/seduction18/06/20 05:00 AM
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It took me forever to realize the mere fact that the girl is even there is a huge sign she's into you. Her making herself available is how she shows interest. She expects you to escalate and take the risks and lead becasue that's how women percieve men should show interest. It's like you play offense she plays defense.
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:42 AM
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"I want to pound your pussy" LOL So I recently wrote a passage about this elsewhere. I think the main problem is that nobody can really define what modern dating is or is supposed to be, so there's an uneven playing field right now with women dominating. So here's my solution: men need to raise their standards. What I've noticed is that almost all women, regardless of looks, popularity, social status, education, or finances almost unequivocally put themselves first and do what's best for themsel…
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:26 AM
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Thanks for sharing this advice. I fall into this trap where I'm more concerned about providing the girl with what she wants than finding a girl that's suitable to give me what I want.
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:14 AM
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I'm kind of in the same place as you, so I figured I'd offer the reverse perspective. I'm a guy and I just started a tinder account for the first time in my life about a week ago. And I'm going to be completely honest with you. Since dating apps mostly rely on looks, and so many of the girls I saw on there basically presented themselves as sex objects, it's been really difficult for me to see myself pursing anything else more with them. And I think as guys, we're so used to flakey girls these da…
/r/seduction18/06/20 04:08 AM
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Man, absolutely no judgement here, but I'd like to hear your story if your down to share. How did this happen to you? How did you realize you had it? Do you know who gave it to you? What have you learned from this experience? How could you prevent this from happening in the future? What advice would you give others? I can't offer you too much advice in return because I have no experience with STDs. But I would love to hear your story if you want to share. I know it takes some guts to open up abo…
/r/seduction18/06/20 03:48 AM
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Dude he gave you a really positive and friendly response and you insulted him. So then he gave you the raw truth and you insulted him again and now he's the negative one? Do you want people to give you honest answers or do you want people to just tell you the same recycled lines you say you don't want to hear?
/r/seduction18/06/20 03:42 AM
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Just imagine that you are one of those hot guys that gets a lot of attention from women. These guys are similar to attractive women in the sense that they can attract abundance pretty effortlessly. At any given time you're probably juggling a fuckbuddy, two girls that want dating/relationships, and 3 or 4 girls you keep around just to give you free attention. You're so used to talking with women, that losing attention from one you were only lukewarm about to begin with is pretty meaningless and …
/r/seduction18/06/20 03:20 AM
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This shouldn't be your first move, but I'm a big fan of gently tilting a girls head up, gazing down into her eyes, and planting a kiss on her. It's a dominant move and it's got that whole romance movie vibe without being corny. Never had a bad reaction with that move before. But it's all in the energy of how you pull it off. I'm a pretty introverted dude so some of this shit just comes instinctively to me.
/r/seduction18/06/20 02:17 AM
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I like this response, it's poetic. I agree that there is no logical answer to an emotional process, so it sounds like the root of the issue here is men being detached from their emotions. So that leaves me to ask the question, how can I express my feelings and desires for women better? Or perhaps just for life in general?
/r/seduction18/06/20 12:55 AM
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Con artist.
/r/seduction17/06/20 09:13 AM
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In my opinion the "high value" thing to do is to let her go, unless it's really that important to you. Either she's playing games or she really doesn't want to talk to you. That's what it comes down to. From my perspective, the problem is that dudes will play into the game and keep hitting girls up when they do this shit. Men allow women to get away with these immature tactics because most men have such low standards they'll tolerate it. What's worth more, her pussy or your self-respect? Think a…
/r/seduction17/06/20 08:51 AM
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You've got to read her body language, that will help you gauge whether or not you're moving too fast or too slow for her. But regardless she's going to expect you to take the lead unless she's one of those aggressive-feminist types.
/r/seduction17/06/20 01:22 AM
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Who knows, but for whatever reason, it seemed like a surprise to her. I'm just used to getting positive reactions with that rather than neutral/apathetic ones. And frankly, I would do that for any girl I worked with that asked or just happned to be walking alone when I was too. Like why leave separately? I wasn't trying to pick her up that night and I don't think I did anything inappropiate. I could have been misreading her interest level, so from her perspective it was either too forward too so…
/r/seduction17/06/20 01:12 AM
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I didn't really ask, I basically straight up said "I'll walk you to your car" and started walking with her. She's young so I figured she probably was just taken aback by it, and possibly have never had a guy offer to do that before. I was taken aback cause most girls say thank you or something whereas she was just like "uhhh okay." That was a first for me cause it seemed like she liked me up until that point.
/r/seduction17/06/20 12:08 AM
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That's hilarious and it really does sound so corny. If I were to make comments like that it would deliberately be in a corny ironic sort of way as a joke. I can't imagine it seriously. I wonder if that ever worked for that guy before so it's like his go-to routine now. I recently told a girl I'd walk her to her car at a volunteer job (it's in a bad area) and she acted like that was weird, so maybe she saw that as some kind of macho posturing. I really just wanted a reason to talk with her while …
/r/seduction16/06/20 10:24 PM
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No, I'm not saying most men don't have lower standards than women. They generally do. What I'm saying is the argument that women have it easy and they don't need seduction because even ugly women can get lots of men is a weak argument to me. That argument relies on the assumption that all men have low standards which is not true. I've turned down more women than I've slept with because I qualify them on more than looks. They absolutely tried to break out the seduction tactics on me, and mostly f…
/r/seduction16/06/20 10:06 PM
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Yeah, I agree man. This is the most insightful post so far. This stuff defintely comes to me more naturally when I view myself as the prize, which usually comes about when I feel like I'm more attractive than the girl is. Because in those interactions I feel like I'm the more alluring person so to speak, so that probably feels like confidence and dominance in her eyes. It seems like the most powerful move I've ever used with women is being able to look them directly in the eyes under tension. It…
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:42 PM
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Yeah, that's the idea, that it's a natural thing rather than a routine or a tactic. Do you have any stories or examples of times when a man tried to be seductive and you hated it? I'm curious what that would look like. I think many women don't realize how difficult it is for some men. Men for the most part are clueless and willing to try just about anything if they're convinced women will like them for it. That's why concocted pick up tactics are so prevalent. There's a lot of influnencers selli…
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:19 PM
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I don't think you are being rude, and I totally respect your opinion, but I disagree. This argument comes up a lot and I think it's really weak because it relies on the assumption that most or all men have low standards and only qualify women on looks. There are absolutely men that are considered attractive by a wide variety of women. Those men also tend to fall into the seductive category I'm talking about. So perhaps it's not so much that women are doing anything special, or is it that these m…
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:06 PM
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I can relate to some of this. I was raised by my mom and had lots of female friends growing up. Naturally I liked being around girls so I think I was subconsciously emulating them because it did make them more comfortable around me. But I got hit with a lot of that "you're such a nice guy, best friend, brother, etc." And I knew that was not good... When I started playing into my masculine side I noticed that I was kind of a natural and girls were more open to dating me, but I was also a lot more…
/r/seduction16/06/20 07:43 PM
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This is what I was thinking, because actors/models seem to be the most obvious examples of people that can pull this off. I think with them it's a combination of both being trained to do this plus generally being confident/handsome. But I still find it odd how most men just inherently lack any sense of seductive charisma...
/r/seduction16/06/20 07:31 PM
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It all comes from confidence but it goes beyond that. I've met men that were highly confident but they weren't seductive or masculine. Being confident does not guarantee success with women. Take Barack Obama for example. He presents himself as a highly confident person, but nobody thinks of Barack Obama as a seductive man. Someone like Russell Brand on the otherhand is a man that women view as seductive. There's a huge difference here.
/r/seduction16/06/20 07:26 PM
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It all comes from confidence but it goes beyond that. I've met men that were highly confident but they weren't seductive or masculine. Being confident does not guarantee success with women. Take Barack Obama for example. He presents himself as a highly confident person, but nobody thinks of Barack Obama as a seductive man. Someone like Russell Brand on the otherhand is a man that women view as seductive. There's a huge difference here.
/r/seduction16/06/20 07:26 PM
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That's quite a philosophy. I would sincerely love to hear how you came to these conclusions?
/r/seduction16/06/20 06:21 PM
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I was hoping someone would stumble along here with some insight about how to learn this. I've picked some of it up instinctively and by watching actors in movies and by people watching. I don't know if that's common or not, because I'm a pretty introverted dude so I often prefer to just stay silent and let my body/vibe do the talking for me sometimes. It seems to work a lot better for my personality than trying to be the outgoing life of the party type.
/r/seduction16/06/20 06:09 PM
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I agree 100%. But some of these guys also have a way of using their body language in a masculine way that's seductive to women. I think the zenith for a seducer is to be able to communicate everything with a woman through nonverbal communication. Where she just follows your lead without having to say a word. That's the romance novel type shit women fantasize about because it's a bodily/emotional awareness/connection most people can't obtain. I mean, what's more attractive: a girl that presents a…
/r/seduction16/06/20 05:47 PM
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Confidence is a big part of it, but it goes deeper than that. It can be expressed in a certain walk, posture, gesture, stance, voice tone, facial tick, eye contact, vibe, energy. Even with confidence most men don't know how to use their body in a way that's seductive and sexual to women, unless they're doing it unconsciously. Or they're faking it. I think with women it's more conscious yet effortless.
/r/seduction16/06/20 05:42 PM
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I clicked on that hyperlink just to see what it was, and I didn't even seen any actual dating advice. Just looked like a bunch of women fingering themselves to overly cynical anti-male propaganda.
/r/seduction16/06/20 04:34 PM
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Simple. Don't have money. If you do have money, don't give it to bitches. Problem. Solution.
/r/seduction16/06/20 01:09 PM
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The eyes, chico. They never lie.
/r/seduction16/06/20 01:06 PM
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You should know that there is a subtle but big difference between being a bad boy and a jerk. Bad boys tend to love and own themselves and aren't afraid to show it because they aren't afraid of other people's reactions. Jerks tend to be arrogant narcissist that are overcompensating for the fact that they don't like themselves and they fear other people's reactions. It isn't obvious if you're looking at it at surface level, but the bad boy is real, the jerk is fake.
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:35 AM
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This is really good advice man. The only part I disagree with is the awkward silences. Those are the moments where some serious sexual tension can be made.
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:25 AM
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He means show her "who's boss" in the sense that he's not the type of guy to pussyfoot around and validate her through text messages for weeks on end, he's the type of guy that going to set a date to meet up in person for a man to woman interaction cause he's not playing games.
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:21 AM
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Your brain ‘learned’ that you weren’t capable of self regulating and need someone’s approval to do something. -This absolutely makes so much sense. Like, your whole post finally expalins why I turned out the way I did. I feel like I need people's approval to do anything, yet I've felt like my entire life I've never earned my parents approval...no matter what I do, or how successful I might become, I'll never be enough.
/r/seduction16/06/20 09:09 AM
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Having penetrative sex with anyone counts as losing your virginity. Please don't have sex with a prostitute. You will lose a lot more than your virginity and you will regret it for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction15/06/20 12:19 PM
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Either you aren't that much of a prioriry to her or she's fucking with you.
/r/seduction15/06/20 12:38 AM
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Don't worry about it. Many of them have multiple sex partners. They just don't talk about it.
/r/seduction14/06/20 07:35 PM
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Find things that she likes to talk about and let her talk about those things. Then ask questions and take a genuine interest. Be present with her in the moment and don't get stuck in your head. Make her feel like she's the only woman on the planet in that moment. Occasionally interject witty jokes, banter, insights, and observations. Be charming and charismatic about it. All of this will make her see you as a "good listener." Once you become a really good listener, it doesn't really matter what …
/r/seduction14/06/20 05:35 PM
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Girls these days are pretty much spoiled by massive amounts of male attention. It doesn't really hold any value to them anymore. You're going to have to show interests in them. You will have to take full responsibility, put in almost 100% of the effort, and then probably even some extra to get the results you want.
/r/seduction14/06/20 05:27 PM
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This is mostly really good advice, although I have no idea what the hell the phrase "non-toxic masculinity" even means. That sounds really silly to me, and I don't know anyone in real life that actually talks like that. Also, OP, you're probably going to get mixed results if you go around telling women your honest sexual intentions. That can backfire if the woman doesn't share your intetions, or doesn't like the direction you're trying to take the interaction. It can work sometimes, but it's har…
/r/seduction14/06/20 10:06 AM
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I was thinking about this and just realized the easiest way for you to do this. The answer would be to become the type of man that women want to surround themselves with. If you watch people, you'll see guys like this every once and a while. It's like the cycle is reversed. The guy just sits there being cool while the women kiss his ass and pedestalize him. We all want to be that guy. Just watch how a woman's behavior changes when she's around a man SHE percieves as higher value than her... Ther…
/r/seduction13/06/20 07:40 AM
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Thanks man, good looking out.
/r/seduction13/06/20 07:23 AM
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That's just one piece of the whole puzzle here. And in some cases, growing up around women can be equally detrimental because they program you to buy into thier bullshit. I had a friend who grew up in a household with 3 sisters and a single mom and they really did a number on him. He's clueless. Even though I'm aware of this whole cycle I still get trapped in it too. I recently blew my chances with this adorable blonde girl I wanted acting all needy and shit and pedestalizing her. I'm pretty sur…
/r/seduction13/06/20 07:22 AM
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It's just like the job thing, or exercise. You can't get good with girls without experience. You can't get good experience without girls.
/r/seduction13/06/20 12:26 AM
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So I've been in your position and I've been on the otherside as well because I've had phases where I was dating and had lots of female friends and I've had phases where I was totally single and never interacted with any women. There's layers to this issue. The first issue here, I want you to know is not your fault. We are programed at a very young age to put women on a pedestal by media, society, our parents, etc. It's really hard to break this cycle if you didn't grow up around a lot of girls/w…
/r/seduction13/06/20 12:08 AM
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It's because you followed her around and waited on her. People that are really socially aware can sense when other people are watching them. Dude, I'm a guy, and if I noticed a girl was checking me out in a store. Then waiting for me outside as I was leaving, then approached me all trembling and nervous and said "Hey, what's your name?" Unless she's a goddamn supermodel, I'd be trying to find a way to get out of that conversation as soon as possible.
/r/seduction11/06/20 07:41 PM
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They were into those guys before those guys even hit on them. You'll learn that the rules can change signifciantly when a woman is already sold on you.
/r/seduction11/06/20 07:21 PM
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This is the vibe you want to go for.
/r/seduction11/06/20 01:09 PM
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Girls like that are the ones that feel so entitled to male attention that they become actively frustrated when the attention they're getting is coming from a guy below their standards. Most quality women will politely reject a guy they aren't into if they have to. These kinds of girls take a bad approach as a blow to their ego. In her mind she's like "Who is he to think he's good enough for me?!" So unless you did something else that was really socially incorrect I wouldn't worry about it.
/r/seduction11/06/20 12:57 PM
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Mix this with being casual, playful, and sexual.
/r/seduction10/06/20 05:19 AM
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No, that was general advice. Not my personal definiton of game and pickup and all that it entails.
/r/seduction10/06/20 02:13 AM
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I never offered my definition of game and pickup.
/r/seduction10/06/20 01:57 AM
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Yeah, it's too bad I didn't have a dating coach when I was younger. Would have saved me so much time and heartache. Of course, there's always more to learn. My social skills still need some touch up work. I still get anxious. Those pesky "nice guy" habits die hard. But sometimss the most important lessons are right in front of our faces, we just can't see them.
/r/seduction09/06/20 08:36 PM
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Quite the opposite actually. I was so paralyzed by all the fear, anxiety, and insecurity that I basically had no choice but to learn some game - only to realize that if I just trust my instincts and intuition, I'm kind of a natural. That's why for guys like me the "just own yourself" and all that kind of advice is actually way more helpful. But regardless I think all men should learn the female nature aspects of game.
/r/seduction09/06/20 08:17 PM
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I've found a little game with a little natural is a good balance for me.
/r/seduction09/06/20 07:32 PM
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Nothing wrong with game. It works. My only point is that you don't need it. This works too. It's just a different energy.
/r/seduction09/06/20 07:07 PM
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Great post, would love to hear your pointers man, I sent you message.
/r/seduction09/06/20 06:32 PM
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This is really great advice. Men don't need game and pick up. They need to learn how to own themselves and express themselves. Just be authentic and be masculine. Nature should take care of the rest.
/r/seduction09/06/20 06:03 PM
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This is why I'm encouraging men to step up their game and raise there standards. That's the only way to compete with the all nuances of the modern era you're describing. You're right. Many of those unsuccessful/ugly men will never get the benefits and life experiences that many girls get, and it sucks. Being hot is an advantage in life. But the key here is that the only reason those ugly chicks you mention can settle for desperate men is because desperate men settle for them. If desparate men di…
/r/seduction09/06/20 02:39 PM
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3 models, a photographer, and one random black guy.
/r/seduction09/06/20 02:10 PM
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I've been saying this for years. Women are not attracted to you. She is attracted to what you can provide for her. She is attracted to what you symbolize to her. It's not about you. It's all about her. This is why self-improvement is the only real "game" there is. Everything else is fake.
/r/seduction09/06/20 12:29 PM
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"Man, bitches come and go, every nigga pimpin' know." -50 Cent
/r/seduction09/06/20 10:17 AM
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Yeah but the thing is I'm not an "incel." I can get women. And I personally have no problems comitting to a relationship if it feels right and it's what I want to do. This is good advice for lonely men that are hurting. Is there anything I wrote that you can actually dispute? You haven't presented any evidence to actually discredit anything I wrote, you literally stopped here just to post a mild burn.
/r/seduction09/06/20 09:51 AM
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That's the thing man, unless you are trying to raise a family, there is no logical reason to date. It isn't about logic, it's about emotion. I like women because it's instinctual for me. Biology programed me to love women. And when I get one, it makes me feel like a man, and I love it. I want to feel her feminine energy. You want this too, because you are crushingly lonely without it. It's brain chemistry bro. And women are not logical creatures, they are utterly illogical. They make their decis…
/r/seduction08/06/20 06:20 PM
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I'm not sugar coating anything for him. Quite the opposite, I'm being very real with him. I never addressed his lack of female friends. It isn't common to have never had even one female friend. And that's a big red flag to women. The only statment he made that I addressed was his statement that all the other guys have no problem kicking it with girls. As if he is aware of what ALL the guys at his school are capable of. I don't know what you are calling the minority, but I've noticed that a huge …
/r/seduction08/06/20 05:27 PM
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