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Your premise is "TRP pedestalizes the average man". With the level of scorn TRP speaks with regarding them, it is not comparing them favorably to anyone, women or "the 20". In fact it's implicitly and often explicitly blaming them for "the state of the modern woman" ("caving to feminism", etc.) They do. Men have a much higher legal liability and expectancy to be competent. Both sides compromise physical standards to achieve marriage/LTR goals/avoid loneliness. It's not restricted to family court…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:21 PM
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I meant for human trafficking. I was basing my comment off of: "Trafficking" presupposing that one person is forced/coerced as an item of property held by the bargainer/provider and is not the bargainer/provider themself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:27 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:25 PM
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That isn't a refutation that if an interaction is voluntary, and doesn't harm external parties, it's not immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:16 PM
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I agree. Based on the comments I had to edit for clarity: Strategies are representative of a collection of potential actions, and abstract thoughts about approaches. Consent refers to physical actions actually taken or immediately pending.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:03 AM
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I should've been more clear. Strategies are representative of a collection of potential actions, and (necessarily) abstract thoughts about approaches. Consent refers to physical actions actually taken or immediately pending.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:59 AM
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In general - You require coercion or violence to interrupt free will. If something doesn't interrupt free will, you're fine. The topic headline, to clarify - I didn't say life was amoral. I said strategies are. Abstractions aren't moral or immoral. Actions taken by individuals are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:52 AM
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predispositions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:47 AM
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Morality is perceived subjectively. Amoral describes things that are not themselves objectively right or wrong. Change for example is dualistic. It contains vast amounts of details, all which have to be substantiated for there to be a basis to decide was it a net-gain or net-loss. Also, "strategy" isn't immoral. Strategy is an abstraction that manifests in certain material ways. Abstractions are amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:46 AM
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TLDR: Blooper wants to fuck his mom.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/16 09:37 AM
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Tragically it is still much too widespread. I doubt anyone disagrees on that topic, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 02:19 PM
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Nope. I don't either as you may have guessed from my earlier comment! We're all dealt a different hand. Gotta play it the best you know how. Long as you're not using coercion/threats of violence or violence, more power to ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:58 PM
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But happiness is subjective. No one approach is going to automatically make someone happy. You could set your own parameters for it, but extrapolating that onto other people is impossible. I do think people's (my male friends, or female partners) happiness matters. @ Prisons - and most of what people agree on, morally speaking, for people to be imprisoned over are acts of violence, which I addressed directly right off the bat. (In the USA's context, tons of prisoners are there for victimless cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:55 PM
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Pretty much if your tag is red here or depending the post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:51 PM
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Absolutely. And I don't fault them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:41 PM
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Haha, no virtue signal needed. I stated explicitly my position on-topic. I qualified preemptively because I wouldn't put it past this sub to just say "omg you need to pay for sex lawl you're just rationalizing it", which would be especially stupid when I just pointed out everyone pays for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:40 PM
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Exactly. There are tons of variables, and they add up. However in a world with only so many circumstances, other people (by the many millions) go through the same things. We have unique behaviors and traits, that doesn't refute we share a ton of behaviors and traits. It also doesn't refute that the input that determines these are material circumstances. It doesn't matter where you came from, there are tangible factors that created you. We have subjective preferences that seem to be arbitrary, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:36 PM
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I was referring to the "(in general)" part, where that's basically a decent basis for if anything is moral or immoral. If it doesn't harm an external party, and the active parties involved are agreeing to something without being coerced, it's likely morally permissible or amoral. Since the topic is really two points: Things are transactional Referring to sex work, specifically as what motivated my post... ...I'm only speaking to sex work obviously that is undertaken voluntarily. As far as sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:15 PM
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It is cold. It's fine though, it just means different things make people happiest, ultimately. It doesn't mean it's all superficial. TRP is more about predispositions than "everyone's always the exact same".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:55 PM
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Your premise is totally invalid because 80/20 we're so fond of referencing says most men are pretty much worthless in our eyes. Men sacrifice much more in a relationship They do. Men have a much higher legal liability and expectancy to be competent. Both sides compromise physical standards to achieve marriage/LTR goals/avoid loneliness. Men are more loyal to women Not sure where you got that. TRP speaks of biological imperatives, and how men's is to "roam/spread genetics". That's taken as a give…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:48 PM
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Feelings are results of circumstances you can evaluate. This isn't TRP exclusive by any means, and I was aware of this for many years before reddit even existed. You don't even have to believe in TRP's take on psychology (which is backed by professionals) or traditionalism at all to face up to the transactional nature of life. The nature of human action can be chaotic as a whole, but behaviors and actions can be predictable. People have their little oddities, but we all really fall into a few ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:21 AM
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Well if you are basically "sold off into slavery", and you could run, wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:20 AM
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That's true. I think they should probably concentrate on the repercussions of why those decisions are less effective on an individual level or for society, with tangible conclusions, rather than just making a comment about how one side or the other is "a loser" (or something similar). That's essentially a non-contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:12 AM
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How do you explain the West (the most successful societies), then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:10 AM
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The wall is real. A woman can retain her looks. You're referring to what, a 0.01% example that is a highly over-produced celebrity, on-screen product? And you can still find millions of more attractive (younger) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:07 AM
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They're not. They're compensating to secure a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 11:05 AM
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...when you run out of options. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 10:55 AM
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First of all women are more attractive and desirable than men at every stage of life, but it isn't just about that. LOL A lot of women are just choosing to not date/marry anymore, but the majority are still marry attractive guys who have both beta and alpha qualities. In future generations about 33% won't marry. In a few years, those projections will reach 40%s. In a few more, majority. Men are checking out too (heard of MGTOW?) Most women are married to guys they find attractive. Projection. Fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 10:54 AM
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No, that's unfair. I don't judge individual accusations differently. They're all innocent until proven guilty. That's western justice ethics. There's just a discrepancy in the cultures. One is of migrant centers where they believe women are subhuman, the other is a bunch of people partying where men constantly know to walk on eggshells in the modern campus culture and women get shitfaced like men do. I believe reports of "rape epidemics" in one place or the other, based on that innate logistical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 10:44 AM
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men are so easily parted from their money then they deserve to be Same applies to relationships and lopsided provider contracts (marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:58 AM
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Are sex is transactional. All interactions are. Everything is a resource; time, energy, physicality, intelligence, emotional compatibility. People make subjective judgments on how to trade these things at all times. I've never paid (directly) for it, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:57 AM
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Cheaper than relationships. Are sex is transactional. All interactions are. Everything is a resource; time, energy, physicality, intelligence, emotional compatibility. People make subjective judgments on how to trade these things at all times. I've never paid (directly) for it, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:55 AM
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Seems inevitable if it was by a feminist. The fact that it could push her from feminism isn't a testament to too much. Any sort of actual cross-examination of evidence can do that. TRP goes a bit further than just refuting bullshit statistics.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 09:33 AM
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This may be the most hilarious post I have ever read on this forum in years.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 09:22 AM
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While she may have been a factor, sometimes you have to man up and help people you can't cut ties with.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 04:53 AM
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Haven't seen yet film yet. Anyway... @Link #2 - "The New Feminism is not a war on men — it’s a war on women" This is invalid as a premise because most women aren't traditionalists. The people who make this argument most often are men’s rights activists, who are the saddest people in the world. They live on the internet. They spend most of their time in discussion forums crying their eyes out. And they blame feminism for every problem in their lives. (This argument is "it's a war on men".) Nice s…
/r/TheRedPill28/11/16 04:26 AM
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You sound more optimistic than I feel on most days as far as Western society itself is concerned.. Definitely troubling.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 05:24 PM
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You can avoid it, or go for a private contract.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 05:20 PM
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No offense taken. It is true, it's not that marriage as a concept is terrible. It's that marriage, conceptually at this point in time, is terrible. The court system is terrible as well. The issue is America is the third largest country, and has one of the widest ranges of various cultures and beliefs held within it. To get this "rigid control structure" you speak of would require people understanding the problem, facing it honestly, and having a real discussion about it. Then they'd be able to e…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 05:16 PM
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Well said. It's a great example of the passive-aggressive, ingratiating sexual strategy that is inherently employed by beta approaches.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 04:37 PM
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I'm just going to focus on one of your comments, which is a valid observation, but most of your claims are untrue. I would spend time to address them, but I doubt you're actually interested. It categorizes men and woman so differently ...and rightly so. Because they are highly different in the realm of sexual relations. If you want a more neutral, calm dissection of things, try reading the blog: TheRationalMale by Rollo Tomassi.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 04:36 PM
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He laid out some really good goals. Be neutral or "the interested ally". Present factual information in the frame of "well this needs to be accounted for" instead of "this proves you wrong". I would suggest studying a little bit of what is called the Socratic method of questioning, or "Socratic reasoning" (yes, it's a reference to Socrates). Essentially, you just ask people questions about their beliefs, or the topic, to draw out contradictions in the positions without making any claims of your …
/r/TheRedPill26/11/16 04:03 PM
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This is a great suggestion for anyone to help completely solidify the reality of TRP.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/16 12:59 AM
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Many women are definitely a bit plain and generic at times. Some will reveal themselves to be less so when they're more comfortable with you. Two things: 1) They are, at all times, much more concerned with social validation than men. That means they are not going to hold as many controversial opinions, and they especially won't give voice to them if they do. They will gravitate towards pop culture, and things that don't require major introspection, philosophy, ethical examinations, etc. Everythi…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/16 12:56 AM
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Solid post. It is repeatedly demonstrated that you can do everything right in life, and still lose. That is where outcome independence comes in. Being alpha, all that goes into it, is just "best practice", in order to retain access to pussy or commitment for longer. It's not a guarantee of anything. Women are far, far more impulse driven than men.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/16 12:50 AM
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Yes. Marriage is done. We're going to see a regression to harem structure. We're already seeing it. Various sources project 25-33% of people will never be married, a number that goes up constantly, and, when you think about it that includes the extremes more than the average. Some people will not get married because they can't, they're terribly low SMV. Some will be able to play the field and hold interest despite openly playing the field, because they're high SMV. The difference is women secure…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/16 12:47 AM
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Headline should read: Emotionally and mentally unstable person (typical woman) commits suicide immediately after having sex with man when first meeting him Covert matriarchy is real. Wright tells him she beats people up all the time. ... She asks him if he can tell her mother she’s 'not a loser.' She talks about her dog that died, her belief in justice and the afterlife. chick is a dumb cunt, wants social validation from a guy she just met and instantly had sex with emotionally erratic as fuck I…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/16 12:37 AM
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Agreed there, most of the mainstream when it comes to stuff outside of objectively evidenced science is pretty much all spin and reframing.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 11:57 PM
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Most of the article is an Appeal to Fiction and/or Appeal to Emotion. This chick, like many, have no interests or hobbies of their own. They just live vicariously through more beautiful and more socially successful people. Pity evoking, actually. It's also taking the most visible outlier exceptions to the reality that most men cannot (and do not) pull highest value (read: young) women. Now, they should try, if they know what's good for them. But they don't know what's good for them. The quoted p…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 11:53 PM
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Good thing it's based on peer-reviewed research that isn't a peddled government narrative then.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 11:22 AM
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That's a good point as well. The context of the article and my post being there are many statements from marriage counselors, so as I mentioned in the post; it's self evident they're failing. That said, we do know marriage is decaying terribly as an institution. People are avoiding it, particularly men. Your anecdote may be an exception; it might be successful in both areas (domestic and sexual) or it may be like what the article said: the marriage itself (a business transaction) is more stable …
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 11:17 AM
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Think of it like a kid. That's something that gets talked about around here; "women are like children - especially in regards to things where their sexual drive is active". So think of them like really stubborn kids. Some kids are great, they're helpful and want to learn. That's not who we're talking about, we're talking about little shitlords. You want to help the kid learn and grow, if possible. If you are going to be continually invested with them, you need to see some sort of level of perfor…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 11:07 AM
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It's definitely not new. It's just professionals; psychologists and marriage counselors and researchers, corroborating what TRP already talks about and believes. I also think you're right about that, as I mentioned in regards to other research earlier in the article. Women will lie, even in a private, confidential setting. That surveyed "equal rate now achieved" is probably in actuality women cheating far more. Given their access especially, and how hook-up apps and social media have altered thi…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:56 AM
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Literally laughed at this one. Thanks.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:50 AM
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I was about to say: They're better at certain things. But you kind of alluded to it: unrelenting, unmerited self esteem ...like coddling (read: not disciplining and refining, but just showering unearned praise) on kids. To an extent, kids do need some ego-building, but not to the extent the modern society goes to with it's participation award culture. They need to be guided towards successes. So, corrected when they make mistakes, with unflinching, stern delivery. And discipline for defiance. (M…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:47 AM
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Definitely a TLDR, which is why I said that numerous times to preface. Heh. I couldn't resist just commenting on it all, the whole thing is just one big TRP endorsement. It's not so much a revelation of content, as it is psychologists and marriage counselors exhaustively corroborating what we already talk about.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:40 AM
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I guess I could have put more context there. The stats just show that women will settle, just to achieve a goal like it's a check-box regardless of how wise a decision it is, based on where a perceived "wall" is (based on their perception). Years ago it was younger. Now we know, not like it was a controversial assertion, that women wait until after "The wall" (as we define it - not as they perceive it) more often. But at that point, women will feel that instinctual urge to leverage declining SMV…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:38 AM
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Ashkenazis and Khazarians aren't real Jews regardless.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/16 05:24 PM
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At the very minimum keep your options open for future plates. She may have not lost respect for you, and instead gained more, but if more of this behavior continues you go the "let's just be friends" route and pretty much only booty call her (plate her). Edit: after reading one of your replies - definitely think about plating here. Another infraction = demoted. And this is essential: women don't get promotions, after they get demotions. Ever. It is what it is.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/16 05:08 PM
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Thought Gallup's poll was 90%? I can only hope that's safe to extrapolate to everyone. Though from what we see from about 30-40% of people (liberals), I'd say it's not. Granted I'm just assuming there that the party divides extend into non-voters, as Libertarians are estimated around 10-15% of the population. Surely there are other groups, but a number of them go and support parties. Libertarians generally are just (still) aiming for their 5% of the voting turn-out, and Anarchists would be reall…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/16 04:47 PM
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...continued: T-shirt / divorce pill, from where we left off: There’s an important exception, though. These findings didn’t apply when women were on the birth-control pill: They responded differently to the T-shirt test by selecting partners who had similar immunity and were less “other.” One study even suggested that when “a woman chooses her partner while she is on the pill and then comes off it to have a child, her hormone-driven preferences change, and she may find she is married to the wron…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/16 04:04 PM
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That's a possibility, though people unfortunately do still trust the mainstream pretty faithfully. About 190 million didn't vote, but I sincerely doubt they're really "red pilled" about politics. Obviously, even if he isn't anti-establishment, Trump's supporters perceive or hope him to be. So, clearly not everyone there is simply voting party-line, or is okay with his more controversial positions. They just want something different, and find it a worthwhile risk. I think approximately 55% of the…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/16 10:21 AM
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California's actually over $400 billion in debt. And has no water supply. I support you rejecting the Fed though. But it won't happen, because any GDP is part of the federal system, and the fed will make life hell for them for withholding. It won't allow travel, it won't allow cheap exports, nor imports, and California wouldn't be able to militarily resist if it wanted to and had to. The fed also won't tolerate withholding agriculture and natural resources (that it claims supreme dominion over, …
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 09:50 PM
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I hope you're right, but he's been part of that group for a long time. I understand, he has to "play ball" with the big businessmen. It may be he was being Machiavellian, it may be that he has his own agenda, only time will tell.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 09:43 PM
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I agree, I am just saying who he is, his character, makes them believe his policy proposals. Even if most of the time people can accept politicians are playing them. They feel like Trump's different. Both things are factors.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 09:41 PM
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Remember: Briffault's Law (read below) Women already have a majority input inherently, on average, in society. What tips that scale to balance is true alphas / leaders being men which is a result of their physical defense gender role. They off-set majority betadom, and compensate for Briffault's Law. They have a cool head, they organize and command in the most vicious of struggles. They have the experience, so they ascend the ranks. And therefore they lead (domestically, societally speaking) whe…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/16 09:35 PM
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Republicans aren't an anti-establishment party. The establishment isn't "whichever party is in power now". It's "the two party system". Women tend to be massively predisposed to collectivism. They're also highly social creatures, and PC is their doing, yes, even many non-"liberal" ones. There are a decent number who are very intelligent, principled, and Christian, or any combination or all three. But to say his personality (and resultant inter-gender social dynamics) was not a factor is disingen…
/r/TheRedPill12/11/16 09:43 AM
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Susan Kolod, a psychologist in New York who specializes in relationships and sexuality, has a theory about why so many women voted for Trump. It all goes back to what they look for — and how they act — in romantic relationships. “In my experience, there are a lot of women [my friends and patients] who are very successful, assertive, competent. And around their spouses, they become obsequious and dependent,” Kolod said in a phone interview this week. “It’s not just married people; singles, too. T…
/r/TheRedPill12/11/16 09:28 AM
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Trump ran as a Republican, using mostly border policy and inflammatory rhetoric to gather support. Two words: plausible deniability. Get people amped up over some more blatant pandering and then claim "he's not a real Republican". When in fact he isn't, he's a lifelong Democrat. All he did was use less subtle versions of Republican demographical targeting. Had a short stint of yapping about independents awhile back, but he's been pretty much an illiberal. This way the elite gauge the interest in…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/16 01:48 AM
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If anything, despite the fact that Trump is authoritarian, Libertarians would pick him over Clinton. Libertarians are far more numerous than Green Partiers and growing a lot more. As are Anarchists. Hell, Anarchists probably are similar in number to Greens. If Libertarians weren't concerned with trying to secure federal funding, and went all out mainstream, they wouldn't be picking HRC. They're much more awake than the average bear.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/16 07:27 PM
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All it's saying is "I really like you." Because there are no unconditional magic emotions. It's "a strong liking". Love is to like as delicious is to "tastes decent". It's kind of implied, if someone's really into you that they really like you. Hence why people here are going to just chuckle and give other responses.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/16 03:25 AM
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For those who don't believe NRS: UK got a component of this globalist pedo-cabal exposed within the last few years, as well as many years earlier. Little was done. Pretty important to remember when you think about the people who hold controlling influence over most of the world came to power through British banks. More recently, the US is getting exposed (both candidates) : http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo http://yournewswir…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/16 11:46 PM
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From the linked article, an approximately 40-ish year old woman? every woman I know—no matter how successful and ambitious, how financially and emotionally secure—feels panic, occasionally coupled with desperation, if she hits 30 and finds herself unmarried. Wall detected.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/16 11:28 PM
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Some people are not just betas, but worship themselves for it, and try relentlessly and desperately to validate their world-view, poor life choices, and failures by projecting onto others and virtue signaling. It's extremely common. We know them mostly as SJWs. This is a passive-ingratiating sexual strategy on display. Pitiable, at best.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/16 11:25 PM
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Women are too solipsistic to guard their tongues. You can get even women who have a vested interest to lie, whether they're attracted to you (and it isn't immediately post-coitus), or whether they are wary of you and are friends, a friend's GF/wife, or whatever in a social setting, to confirm TRP. Go read the "conversationalist" reply on the recent "Charisma: you don't exist" thread. It's all about just careful questioning. Let people hang themselves because they're loaded with inconsistencies m…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/16 07:48 PM
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Savage replies p3n1x. Totally on point.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/16 07:34 AM
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Except TRP pertains specifically to scenarios where people are interacting with sexually charged interest, and the sexes are wired very differently for behavior in this regard.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/16 07:24 AM
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The context is a sexual relationship (of any kind). It's sexual strategy.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/16 07:21 AM
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You can recover. Just as people can shift out of the alpha frame to lose women, they can shift into alpha to retain them. It's all about what you want. She may still drift off eventually, but without having made any adjustments you wouldn't have seen the changes you've already noted. Women assess men for the current status. They don't fall victim to a sunken cost fallacy of past loyalty and contribution like we do, unless their actual position has no leverage and they can't even conceive of a po…
/r/TheRedPill20/10/16 02:54 AM
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True, it is relative. It's subjective preference. But still, men typically will entertain (and act on) the idea of ongoing relations with women commonly accepted as much less attractive than them, whereas women don't. That's dating down, not dating up. Wanting the best you can get isn't hypergamy. Hypergamy is basically only settling for people you deem higher value in a multitude of ways than you. Again, it's not something that TRP came up with. It's something that's been identified across many…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:15 PM
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She is only catering to you for access. Women are collectivists. There is seriously an extremely, extremely negligible amount of individualist women or women against the expansion of the state. It's an extension of their gender roles. She will morph back when you're gone. She's not yours. It's just your turn.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/16 08:01 PM
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It's similar to polygamy. They want to roam and spread genetics for sure, but not commit. I mean this is what the 'ideal' is for the highest value men able to achieve it. As per the typical RP demographical breakdowns of "SMV" (sexual marketplace value), the majority, be it 80% or whatever you want to call it, can't employ that strategy and comes to realize it pretty plainly. But it still does exist, that desire to sample variety. They don't "marry up"... / ...I disagree... But hypergamy isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:44 PM
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From what I can tell any political or sociological camp has it's fair share of idealism and theoreticals, and speculation. I guess you can boil it down to individualism versus collectivism, with the latter being a more generally, widely applied, broader "theory" that the West endorses. As for theoreticals, particularly the libertarian camps touting Austrian economics is fond of that, though of course that camp of econ's stuff isn't purely theoretical at all. I need to sit down and get back into …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:34 PM
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Refer to mrc84's reply. The majority necessarily are not able to enact the preferred, ideal strategy, and therefore settle, and sacrifice ad nauseam to their partner's ideals and social norms. This is just overwhelmingly demonstrated. It's inherent in a demographical breakdown of the "top sexual and relationship values" in either sex. The higher the value for a woman, the more hypergamous (dating/marrying up) she will be. Then she has a lower pool to select from, and so will not commit much. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:15 PM
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Depends, am I actively throwing myself at her for her money? Signed, Guy who hates Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:25 PM
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Well for me finding TRP was like a rabbit hole of reading about politics and sociology. Naturally with the interconnectedness of gender/family relations, politics and economics, I came across materials sometimes mentioning TRP (on reddit occasionally).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:19 PM
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It's similar to polygamy. They want to roam and spread genetics for sure, but not commit. Polygamy of course is marriage. It shouldn't be a huge deal for men, but most men don't have the resources to pull off polygamy. That isn't new to our modern age. Polygamist societies also got left in the dust by monogamous ones. I don't really care what people go for, just saying civil infrastructure and life was more stable and attractive in those places, so they out-innovated others and asserted military…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:12 PM
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It's not required to believe all of it at the same time. But it's everywhere, in the romanticized narratives all across the West and in SJW movements and identity politics, which are pretty widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:01 PM
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Oh, right, society doesn't exist and there's no objective data supporting the things I was talking about like marriage rates down, divorce rates up, amount of divorces female initiated up, the economic connotations to family building and marriage because people produce excess wealth in preparation for it. Do you even know what the word strawman means? There are tons of people who believe in the things I outlined in the level-two comment. So, yeah, I'm not fabricating arguments that aren't there …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:00 PM
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Go read my level two reply to Skinny's level one comment. I could discern this shit well before I ever engaged with other people who talked about it online, whether they were just people focused on the political parts of it, or like TRP the gender relations part of it. I just didn't call them BP or RP. That's how I found TRP. The mentions of it around reddit or elsewhere. Social dynamics are fascinating. At first I thought it was a bit extreme too, but it all falls right into place with what's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:51 PM
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Preface: none of this is moral or immoral. But it is successful for societies, individuals, and families, or detrimental. I am all for people being free to or run their respective families and societies into the ground or to better them. But so far it's not working out. Love is unconditional and isn't equivalent to "strong liking" but instead is some sort of magical force Women are delicate flowers Men are responsible for all the wrong in society, are inherently oppressors and automatically supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:44 PM
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It is natural to get feelings of attachment. That's a big part of what TRP talks about; the biologically ingrained tendencies of men to become committed when they probably shouldn't, and women to disengage when they probably shouldn't (hypergamy - which is a term not coined by TRP, and a concept that's been studied even in it's more extreme forms by many far before TRP was made). The feminiazation of the West isn't up for debate, really though. It definitely adds a failure to properly assess ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:27 PM
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Difference in first premises If people haven't read a decent amount of less-angsty, more-neutral-toned content from endorsed contributors or sidebar approved materials from the admins, or, a shining example; Rollo's blog TheRationalMale, then what qualifies them to make any sort of commentary on TRP? The answer: nothing. Blue Pill refers to numerous status quos that are taught since birth in the West. Like "love is unconditional", and "nothing in gender relations is transactional, it's all based…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:16 PM
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To some degree I expect it's trying to maintain a wider commercial appeal.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 08:11 PM
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I wasn't disagreeing with you. It's pretty hypocritical to complain about gender relations and family dynamics - which complaints are understandable even if you aren't into marriage since that shit is important for society at large - but then turn around and complain about the common social fabric not panning out for you in an individual anecdote. Because the fault in the anecdote is yours alone.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 08:04 PM
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It's a reminder that for people into marriage, go to Married RP. This sub isn't about marriage. It's also alluding to the fact that now-days sexual strategies are used somewhat as social engineering strategies with an unwillingness by those espousing those ideals (Feminists) to actually partake in an end-game, but rather they aim their agenda at others.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 07:51 PM
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Truly if you're complaining about a lack of promiscuity after a few dates, you're only criticizing yourself. Any woman will give it up. There aren't unicorns. All they're doing in that scenario is perceiving you as BB, so, complaining about it won't change shit.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 07:49 PM
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I kind of assumed that was what you meant. Didn't occur to me at first, silly me. As for the betas, of course, they aren't manipulating anything. I meant the woman manipulating them, which, they sure do know what they're doing there as well. Funny though you talk about attachment. She inherently cannot be attached to the cuck. She's using him for resources. Other, more desired resources (good sex, masculinity) are not present, and are outsourced. So she rides a CC for it, obviously. Her attachme…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/16 07:38 PM
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falling into For a lot of people it's a choice. I never wanted one myself, even before I was aware of how shitty of a business deal it is, or how bad gender relations have gotten. I definitely feel bad for guys who wanted marriage growing up, or now. But yeah, it's your risk to run, at every turn of the process, so, best of luck. You'll need it. The numbers aren't encouraging at all in favor of marriage survival and longevity, or divorce court and integrity of prenups for that matter, in this to…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/16 07:32 PM
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Outcome independence is mostly used for plates and LTRs, and not getting attached. For newbs it can be promoted in the sense of approaching and getting your feet in the pool, yeah, but that's also abundance mentality, and obvious that the guy new to the gig isn't going to be slaying it. So they better chill. If they became an emotional wreck they're not going to get very far. While I agree it's good to have some stretches of raising the N-count, you don't need to be getting 2-3 new, different gi…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/16 04:03 PM
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Yeah they will reject anything mentioning TRP out-of-hand. They also are living a lie, a complex lie built to prevent mind-shattering dissonance and emotional breakdown. So, they're pretty much fucked. Got to come to it on their own. You can lead a horse to water...
/r/TheRedPill11/10/16 02:31 AM
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Well I'd figure as much, for that. I chuckled though.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/16 02:31 AM
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Did you even try to consider what I said in my comment? This is not how men are designed to function. You cannot feel your way out of science. Getting a temporary rush, or not knowing you're being scammed, is not happiness. Of course they're not going to admit they feel like shit most of the time. They are performing mental gymnastics to rationalize why their own failure is actually their preferred choice. They're being explicitly taken advantage of.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 09:12 PM
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These people are just pitiable. But, they've done it to themselves. It's really sad regardless. They're not just failures on an evolutionary level, there are still a ton of plugged-in people who have zero respect for this. Though, that is changing somewhat. Poly / open relationships generally are nearly always initiated by the female. We know why, given understanding of SMV and social dynamics. Obviously you know OP, most of these guys are at the extreme end of the Blue Pill. Though sometimes th…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 09:06 PM
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Men aren't hard-wired to share. On a limbic level, they're not happy, and I don't need to ask them about that to know it. When they get in the zone of engaging their fetish, they might be getting a dopamine rush, but that is like saying a heroin addict is happy because he's happy when he gets a fix. Biology isn't my preferences. It's evolutionary programming. Men are designed to compete more for resources and fight over women. Debasing yourself goes against your nature and cognitive health integ…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:49 PM
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know their stuff Can you elaborate on what stuff you're referring to? How to manipulate pathetic betas? Or, the actual underlying dynamics we like to examine?
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:47 PM
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There are men who would be completely alpha by even TRP standards who fall into the evolutionary hard-wiring (involuntary attachment in net-negatives). That isn't a cultural influence. It is the same duty you just described; being a cold, logical thinker regarding survival risks and the obligation to defend a family or greater unit. That's why that commitment level exists. If all alpha or masculine, self aware, reliable and successful men didn't have that drive, it would be much more diluted tha…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:22 PM
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To be fair, Leftists are typically the ones promoting actual open relationships and actual open cuckoldry as well. Around here particularly, it's not just a political pejorative. I'm not even alt-Right, not that it should matter. (I'm real Right; libertarianism.) But still. The Rational Male - Rollo Tomassi
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 07:56 PM
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Well, I didn't assign a percentage ratio to the groups, only listed the groups. I'd say the anti-Feminists, the only ones who will stand up and criticize it, are pretty marginal though. Most people are apathetic, or complicit, and when something is as extensive and widely-affecting as identity politics is, that's as good as supporting it. Many believe in at least some of the false narratives that the further-Left-style camps peddle. Identity politics are very widespread and pervasive. You've got…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 05:22 PM
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It's sort of equal, as far as most expectations given the expecting party's SMV/RMV, and the actual supply rate of what's expected, but not really... There are alpha as fuck guys who provide and want a traditional family, and can reject the prospects of cheating that surround them because they're high value, because they don't suffer from hypergamy. Men are not emotional thinkers, they are wired to, when properly invested into someone, be committed to the point of death as that's what it took fo…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 04:56 PM
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It's almost as if AWALT is real or something?!
/r/TheRedPill06/10/16 04:52 PM
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Puritanical religious patriarchy and marriage. Maybe for you marriage is a top goal, and that's fine, I wish you best of luck in navigating the shit climate you've got to deal with. But for 80% of men, and probably 90% of women, it's no longer the goal. It's also an extremely bad business decision, and the odds are, no matter the woman, it fails cost/benefit risk analysis. Anyway that general, commonly held interest is subjective perception. It may actually be better for them, and make them happ…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 05:06 PM
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Sexual strategy is amoral. The real reasons they are less moral are not the resultant societal-wide dynamics of hypergamy, but hypergamy itself. It drives them to violate their own principles, promises and commitments. They basically will always act in self interest. Everyone will, but men are far more capable of sacrificing with way less to gain, because they're designed to do it. It's the respective biological roles of each side. Women create that threat of loss of attention to motivate men to…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 04:59 PM
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Sexual strategy is amoral. The collective and the obligation to it doesn't exist. It's an abstraction. Only the individual acts. Stop worrying about this shit. This isn't a political forum. It's about self improvement and enhancing your own masculinity. The totalitarian social justice shit has no place here. TRP is not about promoting itself. TRP is not about being MRA. It is not about making a bunch of noise and drawing attention. "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink." P…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 04:53 PM
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Yeah they do. That's why this subreddit is a thing (and why MRAs are a thing, MGTOW, etc). If people were more traditional and there wasn't betafication everywhere, TRP / the manosphere / whatever you want to call all of it combined, would never have become what it is. Remember the Laws of Power. Blend. In person we (TRP-only) don't attack Feminism and all that shit all the time, because it's either people who are: fanatics, enthusiastic progressives driven by identity politics who feel they are…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 04:22 PM
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Lol "I'm post-wall as what TRPers would say. I am hot, if I wasn't, we won't even be in this situation. He's always been more into physical looks, but he has found that it's never enough. He needs to be mentally challenged as well. Fortunately for me, he has always had his choice of women, this is not something new to him. I am not the least bit concerned that he's the way he is because he knows he's got options. He always had options. Happy you found your chill though! Stats can be such a confi…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/16 03:57 PM
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If women can't cheat, men can't cheat. "But, HSLB, men are required to provision women's lives and commit completely, to the point of dying for women they've never met and their thirsty beta orbiters uhh, listen to women!!!!"
/r/TheRedPill01/10/16 07:12 PM
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Right, I am with you there. I was simplifying, a more thorough examination as you have articulated brings up the considerations that they have intrinsic implications and power, and are often based on realities even when not specifically referring to strictly tangible, universal observations - such as a melanin level, which is vastly different than "lots of black people are irresponsible". One's a projection, the other is undeniable. That said, it's another topic and one of contentious debate whe…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 01:20 AM
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Good points there. We are disposable, it is our purpose. A cost-benefit analysis is inherent, even if not at the forefront of consciousness. I think women do use it, as I said, they 'hamster' and apply the thinking inconsistently so as to be self serving. I'm generalizing in my other post, but kids are often not thinking of consequences, whereas women realize them, and perform mental gymnastics to marginalize or deny them, or construe the outcome as "better if I am the one deciding". Kids do tha…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 01:14 AM
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I understand where you're coming from, and don't disagree. In that context, all systems of measurement and nomenclature are somewhat interpretable as constructs, but the concepts or realities they describe are quite real nonetheless.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 01:12 AM
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Absolutely. Kids are sponges. But when it comes to something against the rules, they don't necessarily think of the consequences, and they don't rationalize things are actually better off with them making the decisions (in most cases - sometimes they do). It's just the pursuit of gratification.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/16 01:10 AM
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Great post. Really well done, nice formatting. Good job providing sources. I will have to look into the linked materials. Two things: Social constructs: It isn't always too difficult to prove what a social construct is or isn't. A social construct is something that exists as strictly a result of cultural conditioning and not a result of biology or strictly concrete logistics and evolutionary need, or sometimes the term is used to describe things that don't have concrete, physical manifestations.…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/16 12:22 AM
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Need more people who get this. Great post. Good job, had your fun and evaded risk so far. Props for responding to lots of comments as well.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 09:56 PM
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A piece OP didn't get to: After decades after messing around, they’re ready to settle down. We have the time to do so (which she acknowledges) and the dating market is trash. We (liberated / TRP style men) don't squander our primes. But let's read on... Which is precisely where Alex was at about a year ago with his ex-fiancé, who -- kudos to Alex -- was four years his senior and under the crushing pressure of having kids right away, lest the opportunity pass them by altogether -- or, more precis…
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 07:54 AM
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As a rule of thumb, yes, I'd agree. But there are people who discuss stuff all over social media that weren't foreign to the topic before that.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/16 03:09 PM
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Inaccurate generalization. Also, not understanding attractive men can be betas. Alpha/beta is a dynamic, meaning, not static (not frozen still). Plenty of people came here because they were just curious; heard it bad mouthed, or because they were online looking up stuff about how social dynamics are fucked up. Most are guys who want to go from beta to alpha, true, but your comment displays a lack of understanding of most of what this sub's about. Plenty are people who have seen positive changes …
/r/TheRedPill15/09/16 02:08 PM
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After Ashley, I found the blue pill randomly from ask reddit. Started reading it and was like “this is complete bs” and found TRP from that. Hahahaha. Awesome. Suck it, redditors. Yes, TBP is complete and utter trash. It's just "anti-TRP". TRP references biology and proven psychology that pre-dates TRP by decades, not to mention a bunch of conventional wisdom that also pre-dates TRP by decades. Good write-up, well done. Best of luck going forward Swanson.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 10:03 AM
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That's great that things are looking up for you. Absolutely keeping working out, dieting right. People overlook those things, as it's convenient and easy to do so and just eat junk. But it'll continue to keep you being healthy and feeling better, and looking good. That's always a primary mode to self improvement for anyone, from any place, any culture and either gender. If you end up curious about the main TRP I would just advise you read one of the blogs like TheRationalMale. Actually looking i…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/16 07:43 AM
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No problem. Enjoy the holidays. Do a little something special. Let the actions demonstrate you are totally committed. Don't go overboard and make the actions build pressure where your words would have, but just continue at ease with the occasional something to keep things lively. If he brings up "oh this might work well as ____" for the wedding, go ahead and give your opinion, and leave it somewhat casual and let him press the topic if he wants. Don't be short, or cold or snippy about it, that m…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/16 07:35 AM
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In RPW (RedPillWomen) they use the acronym RMV more. Relationship market value. Both super-Chad and Billy Bottom-Beta are RMV 0.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 07:29 AM
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Kind of fucked up to tell a 24 year old she better lock up a man quick if she wants her fantasy life to come true. It's not though. It's an educated statement based on the time it takes for vetting and her ovaries dying. It's fucked up in a Blue Pill mindset. The modern "empowered woman" fantasy doesn't exist. She can't run around, spike her N-count out of the park, not develop any character, focus on her job and then have a family if she wants one late in the game (post-wall). The biological cl…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 07:26 AM
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lacy nailed it. Just like "monk" or "nun" mode, where someone single checks out of the market for awhile to self improve, take advantage of the time he's distant - exactly as lacy said; provided he's not fucking around or fucking up - and enjoy the space and utilize it. If you want him to be more interested, or think he's responding with dread because of something you're doing, when you do have time with him just treat it as business as usual. Be affectionate, be interested, relax. The goal of d…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/16 10:15 PM
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Instant gratification isn't as sweet as delayed. I can understand how you're getting overwhelmed with the prospect of something so big and that's such a major life goal, but if it's going to happen, it'll happen whether it's tomorrow, three weeks from now, or after the semester or otherwise. If he's truly committed, you will get a ring. It sounds like he is. So, obviously your excitement isn't going anywhere. Let that excitement transform. I understand the suspense may cause anxiety, but just fo…
/r/RedPillWomen12/09/16 08:20 PM
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Step one) Never speak to her again. Step two) Hit the gym harder. Your trainer is not the man in charge, you are. It's your responsibility to develop. Step three) Find active hobbies to get you outside of the house. Exercise aerobically, get out, smell the air, see the sights. Don't worry about your past, don't worry about mistakes and posting here feeling dumb. This forum is full of people saying "I fucked up" in various ways, every day for years. Own your mistakes. They don't affect your futur…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 06:56 PM
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I know, I preferred the good ol' days of HB#. Shit.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 03:57 PM
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Check out "Married Red Pill".
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 02:31 PM
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It seems a little far out to imagine that sticking your junk into an incredibly elaborate masturbation machine will actually be detrimental to society on a large scale Absolutely not a stretch. It will destroy the price floor for pussy women have created. When people aspire to build nuclear families they produce excess wealth stimulating economies as consumers and laborers. To a lesser extent, this is true even when they just want to be able to court women. These connotations are widely accepted…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 02:26 PM
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Exactly. It's easier to accept a lie, and to shun working hard. The biological mechanics aren't complex.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 01:48 PM
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It's weird. We know LDRs don't work... why would you expect one to work where you have to be apart for a year at a time, for two or four years in a row... Baffling.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 01:47 PM
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Yeah, my own background, growing up with older sisters who were at the top of the food chain so to speak... and them looking out for me as their little brother helped me accept reality haha.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 01:46 PM
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I love how widespread Regressive Left is getting.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 09:33 AM
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You sound like Neo and GLO. That's a good thing.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 09:32 AM
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I wouldn't say OP automatically thinks that. You can have a blueprint and reject it. The comforting lie, that's TBP. A fair few of them have come through here and tried to see what things were really about. They try to debate at TPP. It's not a debate. It's them hamstering why they can't succeed at a high level. It's not because it's fucking rocket science. It takes work. TBP is rationalizing laziness. Though, some of them might just not have the personality at all, to manage it, or they might h…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 08:50 AM
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There's a link below comment text entry boxes... bottom right, "Formatting help". It will tell you. As Shadowscuro said. ... * * b o l d * * without spaces bold ... * i t a l i c s * without spaces italics plus sign for bullet points + bullet points Right arrow > to quote quote ... ~ ~ s t r i k e t h r o u g h ~ ~ without spaces strikethrough There's a raised script too, but that's useless. Linking is also shown in the Formatting Help box. Also clicking the Formatting help box won't alter your …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 08:35 AM
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Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I won't go on too much about my own upbringing, but I had a TRP lens before I hit double digit age. Older sisters. I don't delude myself about what girls at the top of social hierarchies do just because they're family.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 08:27 AM
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A woman's most powerful / truest love is reserved for her children. Haha.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 08:20 AM
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The guy who collected all the "gf / wife" names is getting betas and sistahoods showing up to his house apparently? He's under police protective surveillance, he said.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/16 08:16 AM
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Don't worry about them. Your obligation is to yourself and your family. Maybe some core friends, but even then, all you can do is give your honest thoughts if you think they will be able to benefit from them. Hypergamy is a bitch. The race of people doesn't matter. Women gravitate towards men who will next them, and they will - under modern Feminism - mostly wash up like litter on a beach, far too late to change course and then rationalize blaming anyone but themselves. In a situation where cult…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:37 PM
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A research poll is far from putting their foot down anyway. They're done.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:32 PM
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This is far from putting a foot down. This is just getting irritated. They can expect to have the UN agenda shoved back down their throat extra hard. They're probably terminally fucked.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:29 PM
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It's just one option. She doesn't even need to be on the pursuit so to speak, as much as she can just enjoy the process of scouting (if she's into that). I'd say your tastes and approval should be primary and confident, she'll probably respond to that intuitively. Be subtle about it at first. Just bring it up casually when you go for drinks. Don't make every outing about it, but nudge her in that direction that she should be comfortable offering an opinion just during whatever daily outing. But …
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:23 PM
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woman fall prey to some mechanism of devaluation The current trends are such a system, but they have a price floor, because of biology. It can't change. The only real shake-up to the current imbalance comes sometime when welfare states implode because they're unsustainable. That's the only point at which government will relinquish the male gender role back to compartmentalized, individual family units. And that point can be held off in a rather intricate fashion, for quite a long time, as fiat c…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:16 PM
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Mom with the abundance mentality bit. Always ironic, that you can find conventional wisdom from so many places, supported by so many people that coincides exactly with TRP points. As some posts mention at times, you can drop TRP on people in disguised lingo and tons of people think you're brilliant for it. I always love the permanently platonic female advice. No vested interest and wanting to see you succeed means honesty. Obviously that means mostly from family. When they talk about other women…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 08:00 PM
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Lol my bad. I guess what was good for me is before I discovered TRP I had very little faith in humanity anyway. Hence my previous comment..
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 07:57 PM
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You've got to live authentically. Only you are accountable for your own happiness. You can't just flip a lightswitch and be the life of the party, or be happy with yourself, or be the high SMV guy. Everything worthwhile takes hard work. Recognizing that there is an issue is absolutely required to make any progress on it. Good luck.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 07:55 PM
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Solipsism: Point 1: She knows she's a skank. She knows only herself, in the now. The past is too obvious to ignore, and has social connotations therefore is rationalized silently that it's okay nonetheless. Point 2: She knows her own city, not Berlin. She knows only herself, in the now. Less personal, easier to contend without silence and less social standing to lose.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 07:45 PM
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You have preselection already waiting. You don't want to give her the idea that you need her to pick up women, but you can take her out and scope on others with her. "How about her?" And expose them to the idea of group fun right off the bat (or much sooner). That avoids getting your hopes up only to have wasted time when they discover you're in a relationship and think something weird is going on. If your LTR is pretty attractive, that can obviously help too. But if you aren't worried about a c…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 07:39 PM
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If that's what you're here for, expect perpetual disappointment. Or learn to admire your fellows who can recognize reality and adjust to it. When I first saw this place years ago I was pretty glad that so many other people understood the depth of how fucked everything is.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 07:27 PM
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So you didn't address any of my comment really. I'll take that as you see nothing wrong with men doing what they wish, just as you think women should be allowed to do. Which they should, I'm all for everyone having complete freedom of choice in their lives. I asked you already to substantiate your assertions of hatred, and you didn't. I won't expect you to substantiate the assertion about people here not believing in equality either. We already have a gynocentric society across all types of cult…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 06:41 PM
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Oh really? Ah well, sad/funny because it's true kind of thing.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 06:30 PM
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How do you know? I'd hope it was, because this is disgusting. Even still, there is no shortage of military guys who will tell you this is pretty par for the course.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 06:29 PM
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I was going to make a post about this, was thinking of how to do it. I suspected it might come up here. Basically these women are, as we all know, reserving their deployed man as BB, while carousel riding like madwomen. Their sense of entitlement is fully on display, as is their solipsism and rationalization that "they're being forced to cheat", that they've done no wrong, it isn't cheating, and their employment of a covert contract, the lack of any honor or integrity, this is just all TRP verba…
/r/TheRedPill09/09/16 06:27 PM
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You guys think women acting in their own best interests are bad. So how is it "hating women because they're women" if you recognize all humans should act accordingly in their own best interest? If women look after their own interests above all else, which you just admitted, then so should men. This sub isn't about hating women for acting in their own best interest. It's about recognizing that it will happen, and there's no such thing as unconditional love that keeps humans together and prevents …
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 11:01 AM
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That's an appropriate analogy, the orbiters. That's exactly what beta females are. The dynamic surfaces, regardless of who, or what, or where or when. Just because overall men are the alphas, and women are the betas, of course doesn't mean there aren't subsequent breakdowns in certain circumstances given relative SMVs regarding low value females orbiting men.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 10:33 AM
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It's the essence of the 'war brides' phenomena. Honor as it has been instilled into men taps into a biological role of protection which massively pre-dates the concept of cultural honor. That's why it works. It serves the same logistical purpose. For women, honor would have meant being eliminated from the gene pool, having their kids and themselves killed, and the conquering society going without a key piece of spoils of war, which they obviously wouldn't want to lose. Men would be eliminated to…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 10:28 AM
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Interesting to see you launch into an ad hominem without outlining anything, then preemptively announcing Argument From Silence, too. Weird as well, I didn't provide any specific examples. I spoke of international, irrefutable trends, as I will do very briefly at the end of this comment. True, you can choose to hold yourself responsible for anyone you want, provided they are willing to accept your help and shared moral agency. It just doesn't hold up as an argument beyond that, in any regard. So…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 10:20 AM
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Stop being anti-science. Feelings don't refute evidence.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 10:08 AM
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You're not responsible for anyone but yourself. If humanity deserves survival it will innovate accordingly. When humans face that there is a problem they are quite inventive and adaptive. Look at TRP for instance. Face the problem, adapt. But I was making more of a condemnation of the average quality of people than saying that humanity should be eliminated. I don't really care one way or the other if humanity makes it a substantially longer period of time or not. We're all on borrowed time, ever…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 10:37 AM
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Think about the social demographic breakdown. Most people cannot be a top value person. It's inherent in the relative status of such a definition. They employ a covert contract, passive-aggressive, ingratiating sexual strategy and don't want to have it pointed out that it's pathetic and doesn't work as well. They already know that. Some better than others, but in the back of their minds they all grew up seeing it. The truth hurts. It takes a lot of work to break into the top classification of hi…
/r/askTRP03/09/16 10:25 AM
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You could ask this question in an anthropology sub. Keep the wording as it is, make a different account so they don't see you have posted in askTRP. Primate evolution is relevant to gender roles, yes, and biological programming. Gorillas especially exhibit AF/BB. The issue is we didn't evolve from different things. We all come from the same species, and we are distinctly similar to gorillas behaviorally. Genetic similarities are irrelevant here. We're very similar to chimps, gorillas and orangut…
/r/askTRP03/09/16 10:11 AM
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Well, from your reply an hour ago to another comment, she definitely was interested in you at least for just a hook up, and you probably failed some shit tests. So now she's rationalizing you were a creep and she was right to disconnect, and she wants to distance herself and place herself above you (obviously) to anyone who may have known about your being an acquaintance. What do you tell other people? A) It's none of your business, nothing happened anyway. For your closer friends: B) We cuddled…
/r/askTRP03/09/16 09:56 AM
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Just musing... so her argumentation is just non-arguments and logical fallacies, character attacks, strawmen? Sounds like most people. Basically, she's shit testing, hoping to find a spine. It's remarkably easy to stay calm when people do this, at least for me. In topics you are confident in, you just ask for clarifications and evidence or actual rational arguments. Often you don't even need to make positive assertions of your own, you just use the Socratic method of questioning to draw out inhe…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:44 AM
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A lot of resources are on the line. As you said, time is one. Women have limited time in order to find a suitable man, of course they're going to test for weakness. Their window of time to succeed and breed is lower than a male's. As for the sickness, they're all sick, yeah. Men are sick this way too. So are children. Even in platonic situations people shit test. They just don't get talked about on here. People always vet for who they want to hang out with, who they'll share various resources wi…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:31 AM
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Of course women cheat more. It may seem as simple as hypergamy, but a lot is connected to it. Newbs to TRP need to realize some things I'm going to comment on. It should be common knowledge if you've read a decent bit of the sidebar or TheRationalMale and other blogs, but I see a fair amount of comments lately in my ever more rare visits that seem to indicate people wondering about things already explained... such as: Women are programmed to potentially detach or withhold emotionally, involuntar…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 08:32 AM
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In this topic (context / the verbatim of what OP said, he is not exaggerating in the slightest) : Retarded hypergamous SJW sluts with a thing for black guys get shot down by black guys! Dunham on Odell Beckham Jr: "It was so amazing because it was like he looked at me and he determined I was not the shape of a woman by his standards. He was like, ‘That’s a marshmallow. That’s a child. That’s a dog.’ It wasn’t mean — he just seemed confused,” Dunham recounted in the newsletter. “The vibe was very…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 07:51 AM
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True, I'm not disputing that on either count.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 07:19 AM
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That's true. Very violent crimes can often be crimes of passion, and logic isn't involved as to who is really to blame /u/Retspihi At least know the risks. I figured you already realize you can get your ass beat. However getting murdered is the marginal, worst case scenario. You can easily move on OP, and find others. Abundance mentality, in all things. Also remember, this is clearly an indicator that she's not even plate material. Plates shouldn't be fucking around on you, and they're even less…
/r/askTRP03/09/16 07:17 AM
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She will cheat on Bob as she's roping him in. The opportunity is built-in, or she won't accept him as BB. It's almost as if "first" doesn't exist in this sense.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 06:21 AM
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Why the fuck would I want my prize plate to walk out my door and be free to fuck whoever [Lack of abundance mentality intensifies] ?
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 06:07 AM
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I'll say it. By that logic, given that most people are trash (not even in TRP lens right now), and given most of those non-trash people won't actually ever meet each other, birth rates and marriages should be like non-existent. And even now, with idiots breeding into welfare states, it's dropping but only slowly. So is marriage. So given "no trash", both would be simply plummeting. Which I agree, most people shouldn't be procreating. Period. And women are trying to trap high value men, and settl…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 05:38 AM
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As someone else said, "overcompensating for actually feeling empathy". That should be "overcompensating for not feeling empathy". Women are social creatures, much more so than men. They want social brownie points. They'll even cry rape to protect social status. That should tell you enough.
/r/askTRP03/09/16 05:06 AM
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Statuatory may be in play regardless, so coordinate with your lawyer to see if you can use the evidence that she was willing and encouraging to see if you can get it lessened in a worst case scenario.
/r/askTRP03/09/16 04:39 AM
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You aren't the one who committed to someone else. If shit hits the fan and the guy confronts you, you can play dumb, and use that exact line on him. "I don't know you, I wasn't the one who betrayed you after making a promise to you."
/r/askTRP03/09/16 04:37 AM
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Firstly I doubt you're asking genuinely, because your post is framed as a passive aggressive attack given alpha/beta. Implying people who talk about common sense in regards to social interaction breakdowns and demographics (alpha/beta are a real thing, that isn't debatable, TRP didn't invent that gasp!) in TRP are automatically betas, or that all men and women who believe in it are betas. Sort of interesting to endorse the dynamic to shame people in your own way, and then also dismiss people who…
/r/askTRP03/09/16 04:02 AM
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I'd be interested in some research in this regard toward the US*, as this post is related to Europe. In the US, I may have remembered this incorrectly, but higher educated couples experience higher divorce rates with much higher ratios of female initiation. In general marriage rates and birth rates are down in the West, and I am nearly positive in the US the majority now of all children are born straight into broken homes. I could be wrong, though I'm fairly confident in all of that. Time-frames…
/r/RedPillWomen02/09/16 06:20 AM
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Yes, they make connections in certain ways better than men. Men use logic and scientific reasoning, on average, better than most women. Hence why I said they learn in different ways. The discrepancy in brain function in platonic states isn't completely fucked though. I understand what you're saying, but you're saying they exhibit no sign of effort, yet disagree they're taking what's being handed to them? If you wanted to see what women are capable of, look to the past at the transition. Now? It'…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 01:03 AM
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For sure, I'll give you that, as far as the absolutism. I always take AWALT as a practical self-defense generalization. It's about understanding what they're heavily predisposed to and capable of. Every last one of them, even if they don't act on it. Not every single woman ever rides the CC, even if she wonders, at a time when most women are doing it, if she could be happier joining her friends instead of being married and raising a kid. I've spoken to girls who literally have voiced that though…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 01:00 AM
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Simple enough answer by Moly. To be expected. The issue is evolutionary need. Western colonialism worked in changing dynamics slightly (temporarily) in contrast to tribalism/polygamous societies because it used the government; it used a threat of force. However it wasn't simply families bonding together with a common goal. The "powers that be" shared that goal. There were resources to be had, land to conquer. Now? They have it already. You're not going to change their minds with voting. They had…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 12:49 AM
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So 1% proves NAWALT? Women are programmed to be involuntarily/instinctively disloyal and able to detach from what are potentially net-positive emotional bonds, whereas men are programmed to be involuntarily/instinctively loyal and not be able to detach from what are potentially net-negative emotional bonds. I'm just going to assume you're familiar with the how and why of that, the historical male mortality rates influencing females, the split second decisions needed by males to protect passage o…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:57 AM
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Alpha/beta is invariable. Whatever the top allocation of men is, the rest are betas by relative consideration. You could kill all the alphas and the next tier of men instantly become the new alphas. Truly beta behavior is something different than just a relative standing of SMV. Generally though, there's a correlation as we know. The ingratiating, passive-aggressive strategy of making yourself (and your resources) overly accessible in the hopes that some female runs out of options and settles fo…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 10:09 AM
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It's because of how we're programmed, because of reproduction and social dynamics. If you want to actually get people in a platonic situation, neither has a major intellectual advantage. No surprise though they excel in differ methods of learning. Men are designed by nature to be the physically societally-defensive and interpersonally ideologically sacrificial lamb. Actually the most intelligent action in the social dynamic exchange is the Red Pilled man. Women are just taking what is handed to …
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 09:57 AM
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Every guy they hook up with "just because" chips away at their conscious until they all become the same soulless, hypergamous beast. Tragic I can't stop laughing, that wording... (Gotta laugh or cry?)
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 09:14 AM
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Well, yeah. Going by regressive logic since drinking means one human can't consent, then it also means the other can't consent since they're the same and equal in every way. So technically, literally by their standards, nearly everyone is a rapist and a rape victim. "All hetero sex is rape". Closing in on the goal.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 08:58 AM
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girl is an actual whore "She probably only had two sexual partners the whole time!" Way to make a throwaway to come here and get wrecked. Burden of initiation sucks huh? A male-slut is the perpetually friendzoned guy who gives the benefits of his commitment away and gets walked all over. That's why people don't respect them, from either gender, and why "friendzone" and "clinger" (AKA orbiter), "typical nice guy", etc. sting those types. Women can throw sex around no problem, unless you're a top …
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 08:39 AM
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They can thank gender roles. "We live in a post gender roles society!" "ooh buy me this dress, drink, shoes, dinner, clothes I want, the tickets to ____" etc. C'mon man. Seriously.
/r/TheRedPill30/08/16 08:33 AM
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Absolutely, no problem. I'm glad you can find people here who take a different approach and won't just base things on what the status quo implies people want to hear. Of course his work is going to affect him to some extent. That isn't completely an irrational fear either, even if it is a little exaggerated unnecessarily because he's specifically working and repeatedly exposed deliberately to that. Also, for the stress, that works both ways of course. Also same - sorry for the late reply, I don'…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/16 07:23 AM
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Haha, that radio analogy. The jester too, exactly. It's not that hard. Being in that setting is total detachment and professionalism. You don't take offense to stupidity. You know a lot of people are venting, or drunk. You don't overstep certain boundaries but it's still so informal. It really is just pure, unadulterated social interaction. Quite the clear lens to see behavior.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 07:19 AM
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Your value is only going to increase getting a PhD, obviously. Abundance mentality. You will have many other options. Cut her off completely. Don't make it a priority at all to respond to her if she tries to communicate. Your had your fun, your turn is over. Clearly there's a major lack of respect if she does this before you're even out the door. People explain shit away, oh I was drunk, but being drunk doesn't put ideas like that in your head. It puts ideas in like oh we should break this piece…
/r/TheRedPill22/08/16 06:59 AM
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Should note, on a 5 min ride with a somewhat attractive young guy in a nice car girls tend to feel comfortable asking relationship questions. They assume they'll never see you again. Disclaimer: I am aware, as others have pointed out, and I think OP is aware too, that this is an extreme sampling to view from. However, there is some serious value in it given that these women are operating without attempts to hide their imperative. They are letting loose, they are showing their true selves. There …
/r/TheRedPill14/08/16 09:45 PM
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she's 29 and the latest bloomer I've ever seen Cue hypergamy hyperdrive idling, spooling up... If he's dating up, she's dating down, he's a programmer (so I'm assuming makes decent, reliable income)... where have I seen this recipe before?
/r/TheRedPill14/08/16 12:26 AM
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This is kind of like, figuring out the maximum way to loot a store while a crime riot is going on, instead of stopping the riot. No argument here in the sense of, it's not a concerted "positive solution" effort. But it never will be. You described it accurately, it's an adaptation strategy discussion. So, TRP doesn't recommend anything. It just says how to go about getting what it is you want. Following the logic of men being less committed, more men being TRP and MGTOW, things eventually change…
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/16 12:08 AM
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Sounds like you guys have a good thing going, even if it's starting to take a toll on you. Good things in life don't come easily. Reading the comments, it appears you both have some very real stress factors, and that's to be expected. Your husband's concerns are understandable. He would not be able to forgive himself if his son was hurt in a preventable manner, and doesn't want to be in a position where he has to think negatively of you if something were to happen (whether he knows that or not).…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/16 11:05 PM
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While it's encouraging to see women making these observations, both online or in person, it's a distinct minority. People who are socially conservative in any manners are not popular, least not in large metropolitan areas, the media or academia... even if the only thing you're old school about are understanding the gender roles and biological dimorphism of reproductive dynamics. Feminist pollution of institutional education will take awhile to undo. It will take another generation or two to full…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/16 10:50 PM
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No problem. Yeah the non-resource based currency is a big problem. How banks issue notes and charge interest per unit loaned to the government for distribution creates, obviously, infinite artificial debt.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 06:09 PM
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There's a lot of stuff I agree with there, I was under the impression you were advocating abolishing money. You're talking about present situation; fiat currency, as opposed to money. That I agree with, as I implied already. I would say just use that terminology (fiat currency), because you'll get a lot more clarity and support that way. That was my main point of concern. Not all science is so biased. There's no denying the influential folks and the government affect studies but that's why peer …
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 06:01 PM
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Preemptive shooting down this possible response (not that I expect it around here, really) "Then don't contribute what you're not obligated to do" Wrong. Contribute. If you don't therein lies an opening to examine the double standard when you are bitched at by peers/equals and literally assessed by superiors as not willing to put in extra effort.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 04:21 PM
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Definitely need to throw in arrests, sentencing and incarceration.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 04:17 PM
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Parasites? How? Because we use resources from the Earth? Because there's an ebb and flow to the sustainability and not destroying the overall supply of something? Technically technology has advanced our ability to exhaust resources and prolong life expectancy. But we're still advancing ecological conservation in certain ways. It takes time. Big picture. Every action has a reaction, sometimes it takes massive loss of profit or life to facilitate it. There's no such thing as 'cheating the life cyc…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 04:02 PM
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Why's everything being downvoted? Buncha bloopers in here early today? Downvoting is for spam, tempering, trolling, etc. Don't be a typical little reddit bitch.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 03:44 PM
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I doubt anyone has to tell you what was really going on. Lesson learned. Build on it.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 04:13 AM
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Point 1) "All genders" is a phrasing that implies there are more than two. There are "both genders". Point 2) We do have limited resources. Potable water is not the same as water. There's an entire purification process based on labor and investment to provide that resource in a refined form to people. That necessitates economic measurement, meaning the presence of money. There are valid reasons economies that are significantly centrally planned have failed over and over, in all types of regions …
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 03:47 AM
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Well, as far as reddit goes, yeah. Real life friends can be worthy. I know, laws of power, don't expose yourself, but honestly withholding useful information or the truth about social dynamics from people you care about is based, at least partially, in thinking they'll somehow reduce your options. That's fundamentally not RP. Abundance mentality. Worth noting I don't hang with people who would try to sabotage anything I'm working on behind my back because of either morality or their own interest…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 01:29 AM
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But you said Feminism is about equality, when it's actually about legislative entitlements. You have said in this exact post I am replying to: I lothe victimization and entitlement of all forms Unconditional love is what humans need and are entitled to Did you mean legislative entitlements are bad but general 'experience' entitlements are good? Because people are entitled to exactly nothing, in either form. Ideally for peaceful coexistence we should not destroy people's access to earn things for…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 01:17 AM
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and people of all genders There are only two genders. Trans are still one or another, regardless of if you choose to label them based on chromosomes or how they want to be perceived. It's male to female, or female to male. It's not a mysterious third gender. It is the praise of money by both sexes. The illusion that we own anything at all, Money is simply a tool, in concept. Even if it's current state is not ideal, people focusing on money is just how life works. It's a competition. We live in a…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/16 12:30 AM
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It really depends on all the variables. We can't be intellectually honest if we don't address those. It's like the wage gap myth. There are plenty of factors that go in to the equation for both sides. Do they have kids? Marital status? Relationship history? Looks? Salary? If it's a shit job, and they (men) are good looking, it balances out. If men are average looking and have a great job, it balances out. It's always a combination.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 07:19 PM
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She wants: Emotional support Validation Obviously as you already said, to have sex occasionally but she is using ASD, anti-slut defense, a mental health self defense mechanism. I would say you can work around that, get her to convince herself her boyfriend isn't doing what he should be but you don't need to. According to you you've already been just ignoring her and she still wants to hook up. You could say something along the lines of "What, not satisfied (with him)?" amid mostly radio-silence,…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 07:02 PM
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Yeah, I was just making a stupid joke.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 06:54 PM
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Women certainly don't want the guys equivalent to a sale item What they want isn't always relevant. The analogy works, even if there's a disconnect. The activity isn't the same. It's not so condensed, so streamlined. They don't simply grab and want to pay. It's more of a subtle push and pull, a vying for positioning for said sale items (alpha males). It's a much more gradual process. It doesn't take women much to get men, because most men aren't that top dog alpha. If you we were to scale back a…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 06:50 PM
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That's fair to say. At first I was thinking maybe those males wouldn't be as significant a factor in the gene pool so as to contribute to larger scale programming, but they definitely would be given the breakdown of alphas-betas and the sheer disparity of sexual dynamics.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 12:29 AM
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Next up: stare rape becomes a real thing.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 12:18 AM
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From a reply below to a different comment: One in hand is worth two in the bush. If girl #1 is hot, and you think you can fuck her, just fuck girl #1 instead of trying to set up a shot at girls 2 & 3. Trading up like that is a challenging proposition even for a guy with respectable game. From my reply above to the comment you replied to: Read that for a second as a 'scarcity strategy', which it also is. Which is a fundamentally flawed approach. There's another thing I want to mention, if it blow…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 03:22 AM
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Read that for a second as a 'scarcity strategy', which it also is. Which is a fundamentally flawed approach.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 03:20 AM
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Or having her fertility tested repeatedly lol
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 03:05 AM
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There were TRP responses in Relationships? That didn't get deleted? Or were they just downvoted into oblivion? Or what was this 'other forum'?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 02:50 AM
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Neo, weren't you talking about the change in supply and demand due to the advancements in warfare methodology? See my non-reply comment on this thread for elaboration. Pretty sure it was you, if not others as well.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 02:48 AM
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It's like pussy is becoming more and more watered-down, but the prices are getting higher. Cue market crash. Maybe not in the next few years, but within two decades. It's imminent. I forget who, but some regular contributors here have mentioned a number of times the technological advancement in warfare that rendered mass infantry invasions irrelevant; the development of the atomic bomb and the liability of "mutually assured destruction". In short, in the past some of the most principled, hardest…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 02:41 AM
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Of course she was a slut with a self reported n-count over 30 (I'm not kidding) Your post is spot on, which is why this part confused me. You say this like it's uncommon or something. Edit: lol downvoted? Someone got triggered? Aww.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 02:05 AM
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I’m really good at Good at deliberately ignoring or ditching the negatives in my life. That includes People who Visit my page and don't Like me. I don't bother even checking yo page. Lol Pretentious Douchebags, Meatheads, Dikheads...you name it. No matter how HOTT or Successful you are...IDGAF lolllll There is a reason why I look dam good for my age at 31. I don't deal with BS. Loll 1) SOLIPSISM Excels at detaching from aspects of life (including people) she perceives as current negatives (even …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/16 08:34 PM
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Just a reminder to a number of the people yet to come through... Reading the comments here, it seems too many people are trying to offer qualifications and explanations to women. Why do you think their hamsters are spinning into overdrive? Carry on.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 08:54 AM
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It's great that you are introspective about it. Think of where you would have been even after this, were you not trying to diet right and work out. Think of where you would be headed if you weren't taking steps towards being aware of this kind of shit. You might have plodded along on the border of, or balls deep in, depression for years. It's behind you. It was a learning experience. Use it as motivation. The women you will meet in the future will know nothing of the festival, or of the old you …
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 08:37 AM
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Attractiveness is a part of status. Tyga has crazy status. Status is more important. You can be butt ugly and pull women by having confidence and various assets (wealth, wit/humor, intelligence, etc). Will they try to upgrade if they find someone with equal monetary status, fame and charisma who is better looking? Of course. Because they're all components of status. Look at it another way: Not all male celebrities are physically attractive. But they're very attractive in general to women because…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 08:18 AM
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With how many people here acknowledge male role models demonstrating RP thought unknowingly (or deliberately), the homage to the 'old school cool', your points are extremely valid and it is surprising to see how many often disagree (not as response to this post but offering the views unprovoked in general). I am not a parent and I have little desire to become one, but if I was I would see this just as you do. My own father was the traditional masculine male and is a big reason why I was predispo…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 08:11 AM
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Refer to the above (or wherever) comment by cubicpolynomial3 (I can see why movies/TV...), and the reply I made.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 08:00 AM
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Listen to whatever you want. As you alluded to, it's a matter of understanding the subtle conditioning involved in the mainstream. Once you embrace TRP you see it everywhere, because it is everywhere. As long as you are aware that there's a war on for your mind, you can participate in the fight and be fine with a rhythm and grinding on some chick (they love the mainstream garbage) while knowing the content is vapid. As OP said, it's identifying with it that matters. The same goes for passive act…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/16 07:57 AM
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Democidal eugenics qualifies.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 07:07 PM
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That and the family planning programs since around 1980 I just responded to another reply made the same time as yours. I'm not trying to stir some shit pot of ethics or politics, just referencing that China isn't scared to do what they see as "greater good".
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 07:02 AM
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Keyword: estimated. A lot of different numbers get thrown around for recent Chinese history. Mao's Communist China and the "family planning" programs since, the "one child policy" they've had since about 1980. There's plenty to read on about it, it won't be hard to find under "Chinese population control" or similar terms. I am not making any political or ethical argument besides referencing that it is fact that they have done such things. And the motive for that type of program is most definitel…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 06:58 AM
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THIS JUST IN BREAKING: Man who understands subconscious nature adept at manipulating people! Shocking how few people get it.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 04:59 AM
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I meant nothing personal. You are the best judge of character for those in your life and that's all there is to that. I mean externally, don't worry too much about it. The people who truly trust and admire you will probably come around in time, to understanding there is a great deal of truth to your thoughts. It's fairly common, that the truth hurts because people are conditioned against it. When they have their views challenged and they feel dissonance, they get emotional. People truly will wee…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 04:51 AM
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This may seem like trolling but it really only serves to emphasize your point. China is so committed to not fucking around and using Machiavellian morality that they have what is estimated as the largest genocide ever taking place. Compassion is debatable there but the point serves, under the premise of perceived necessity, even if there is or isn't necessity for that level of population control.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 04:47 AM
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renzy77 had it phrased correctly. Women. AWALT. OP needs to stay far away from this chick. I'd say: Everyone needs to remember AWALT and protect themselves accordingly at all times.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/16 12:22 AM
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I asked how he found this out, and he only mentioned that the girl I was eating with had told him. So she's uncomfortable around you but still willing to try and secure an orbit. Pathetic AWALT. Distance yourself from everyone. Don't totally become withdrawn, be polite and concise. But remember, most people amount to nothing. Do not expose yourself, the world is a competitive place.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 08:58 PM
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I meant the unicorn was just a rare win in the sexual marketplace, not the actual person, and implied that unicorns are no longer women but dealing successfully with hostile ones I agree with you.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 08:26 PM
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The issue with what you're talking about is you're playing within a realm of plausible deniability. If you are dead serious and try to make some negotiation, you will get laughed at. You're assuming that she'll accept your provision, taking charge without asking, expecting that she'll provide something of value in return. So, ingratiating passive aggressive sexual strategy. You're not acknowledging women will see their presence as that reciprocated provision. The solution to all of this is not g…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/16 08:23 PM
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Holy shit. You didn't get divorce raped. You found a unicorn! I'm inspired with a bit of hope and I'm not even married. You definitely handled that the right way. The bit about the bait and the wrists was not a surprise in the slightest.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 09:43 PM
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It wasn't meant to be taken as "this is the first time people have been scared of men congregating". Most people here know it's typical, because of how we operate as a species. If you actually participated in this forum you'd know that that fear of congregation is widely understood here. Further, they are not the same coin. TRP is largely a school of thought that is against multiculturalist indoctrination, whereas the refugees are welcomed by SJWs, Feminists and the Blue Pill EU. The same people…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 06:45 PM
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Uh, what? Male utility "we have to work for pussy" Most people do, most do not simply get everything handed to them on a silver platter for being an heir to a fortune or company or being the top 1-5% most attractive. Even then, you still have to do work, it's just relative. Male disposability "we are disposable because of pussy" Basically. We are disposable because of biology. This is a very basic TRP truth. Very introductory stuff. Male duty to the female "we owe pussy" On an individual level, …
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 06:19 PM
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There's way too much money and ego staked in the NFL for female coaches to get much respect or become very widespread and longlasting. "Not For Long" is true for a reason.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 05:04 PM
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where everyone knows exactly what they are getting into and everyone is claiming victimhood. They don't know exactly. We do. Most people won't ever put it together that images you give to others are no longer yours anyway. aang1818's reply to you also says along the same thing. They will sit there and honestly and genuinely try to defend a double standard about a guy putting pics of girls up, versus a girl doing it to guys. We also know why they do this; to protect and sacrifice for women and be…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 11:42 PM
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It isn't misogynistic to understand biology. Men are the providers and protectors. The fabric of society is the safety net for them. "It takes a village" comes to mind. As max below said, it isn't a conscious, evil thing they're doing. They're hardwired for the survival of the species. Nature doesn't give a fuck about feelings.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 10:37 PM
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Hasn't TRP only been labeling itself self-improvement expressly for just the recent past? Might be wrong, I lurked a long time and browsed more than devoured, but that OP seems like a shitpost for sure. My reasoning is there are only going to be so many women who follow TRP and would instantly know in a brief conversation that "masculine self improvement" might mean TRP. Which for this case it did, and she just instantly knew it. Yeah, sure.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 09:56 PM
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It says a lot that people can accept in passing, with some degree of humor - generally that's a requirement for the observation to be accepted as valid - that women are the volatile, more emotional sex. We even have data that shows men simply excel more in fields related to mathematical logic and such, yet if you ever tried to make the dead serious argument for solipsistic tendencies being predominant in women, most people will shit themselves and be horrified of being seen with you. Once you ac…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 09:39 PM
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I'm quite confident it would be possible, although getting a conviction would be another story. As to the results it would have for him, it may just further alienate him by polarizing everyone against him, supposing they were all against it (they'd likely be) and then he did it anyway. He'd be establishing a new frame, which is clearly needed, but that can be done other ways.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/16 10:33 PM
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This is true to an extent, but think more along the lines of how social media evolved: There's a Chad out there in every X amount of people. Chad is now more visible, as is his preselection, to his immediate area (remember women will share, men will not) Direct avenues of contact with Chad (and vice versa) are now available (Now add in specific hookup sites blowing up, not just photoalbum/networking.) Chad is now more visible to his regional area Where Chads are concentrated is now more visible …
/r/TheRedPill29/01/16 08:56 PM
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literally justify deadly physical force against someone else Against their own family. It seems both of these women have manipulated the father successfully and are siphoning all blame toward OP. Disgusting. OP you need to be taking socalnonsage seriously.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 05:57 PM
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Only issue I have with it is: or it might be a total confession with crying. If its the latter then you might be able to find a solution down the line. The solution is immediate, and obvious. Disengage. Gather what evidence you have and what you need, to protect yourself be it job, assets, reputation, anything. Then completely disengage. It's not about teaching her a lesson so other people take note or society becomes a better place. It's about protecting yourself. Emotional investment is your p…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 05:19 PM
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Cue Chad in 8-10 weeks (if not sooner - I'd bet he's already there/waiting) Cue breakup in 12-16 (if not sooner)
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 04:26 PM
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We live in a society where the neurotic of the two sexes is in complete control legally. And people wonder why so many more people on average (at least in the US) are lazy, stupid, unsuccessful, vapid clones of each other. They're breeding little narcissistic idiots at every turn. Takes a village?
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 11:28 PM
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victory ...was temporary. And is already on the way out of the door. Marriage is being vacated. Sexual strategy and power dynamics are being examined more widely. TRP isn't a lighthouse in an ocean. It's the first ship in a fleet. This stuff just takes a rather long time. Decades instead of rapid fire developments that are more easy to perceive together.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 06:20 PM
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Don't forget shopping. The hamster shoots, she scores! Triple play!
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 03:21 PM
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This is why feminists are always okay with advice like "Go lift. Be confident. Dress well" but not advice like "have standards". Increasing male power means taking it away from women, so they'll never stand for it. Because they want the best of both worlds. OP totally nailed it in the last sentence of his post. In a subconscious way some of them know better than others to target certain parts of a man's identity/power, while keeping the things that provide excitement and attraction. The gradual …
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 01:13 AM
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The true feminist message of this film? That men and women are completely interchangeable, except men should still be masculine, but only in ways that let women “have it all.” You struck right at the core with that. The torn-between modern woman, who still wants traditional masculinity, but wants it in a form it doesn't come in; subjugated.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 01:00 AM
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Browsed the comments a little. She got called out. Won't matter. She'll think what she wants to. Another perpetually lost female.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 12:28 AM
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Oh, he referenced Rollo right away. Of course it's declared war on his life.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 10:07 PM
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Seems he does, if he's referencing Rollo right out of the gate.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 10:06 PM
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run by feminists and cucks. Welcome to the West. I remember seeing it said feminism and what we're seeing in the West is the institutionalization of natural evolutionary biology and men being the disposable gender. So really, this stuff is present outside "the West" as well. It's just worse here. But people are waking up to that truth. We're seeing it start to appear in general outside of TRP a lot more lately. The pushback takes time though. I think you still have opportunities to use TRP minds…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/16 05:16 PM
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Did they expect their behaviour to result in marriage proposals from quality men? Maybe in part. They are probably doing it for mostly money. Part of them wants to believe a fairy tale of what they're doing being empowering. They may see themselves as even more self-reliant, critically thinking and genuine. What man doesn't want those qualities?
/r/TheRedPill19/01/16 04:58 PM
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And sometimes, it works. Not really. Did Alice hook up with her WK? Even if she did, it appears you've said she frienzoned him for awhile to begin with. Regardless, exceptions only prove the rule.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 04:28 PM
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Adorable troll. Feminism is cancer, even people way outside of TRP know that. It's kind of getting to be fairly common. Also, this stuff works. It isn't "oh my god, it doesn't work!". No. The opposition is "but it's immoral!". Nope, not immoral either. Take your strawmen and leave, or make a real argument on threads that aren't already mostly buried.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 04:22 PM
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There won't be actual need or validity to a TRP 2.0 until multiple centuries have passed and they've completely evolved past the current model. Which likely won't happen because everything we see from the model indicates this is how and why our species has grown the way it has. Evolutionary biology won't kick in and fix something that isn't broken. It isn't a human that gets caught up with feelz. TRP truths are here to stay. They always have been, there just hasn't been a P2P environment like th…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 03:48 PM
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Was catching up on some TRP reading and wanted to just take the opportunity to say, ABC you always have really insightful comments. Have a good holiday.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/15 03:09 AM
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Welcome back! Congratulations on preventing your house from being stolen from you.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 11:02 PM
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Great post. Not sure if I can really add too much, you were very articulate. It's all about what you want out of a relationship. If a plate is really more distant and there's so much less of (any sort of) connection, then yeah, tell her no, translation: get the orbiters she spends more energy on retaining to worry about her. If she provides you with a more fully fledged good-plate experience, then you've got a better situation going; give and take. Help her on your terms, just like OP said. The …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 10:55 PM
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Well, I think that with 100k+ subscribers, Old adage: (one that seems to be less common nowdays..) For every one person saying it, there are another ten thinking it. You can rest assured millions have read here, or among MGTOW or feminist blogs, and many have discussed the concepts (and opposing ones) at length with trusted friends and family, etc. I told stories that unintentionally revealed TRP theory in my practical examples, though I didn't use the terminology I've seen folks around here add…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 10:37 PM
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Female Hamster tries to rationalize a situation. Male hamster is exactly the contrary, it makes you a irrational crazy bastard, accepting every kind of bullshit in order to get emotional satisfaction. Both are the same. Solipsistic thinking to protect the mind from cognitive dissonance resulting from active, detached introspection and not engaging in the means to a rationally desired end. The thing is women have a way harder time with this than men, as it pertains to reproduction (obviously not …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 10:26 PM
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I read some of the comments, to address one of your replies and some other comments in general: Facebook is not going anywhere. It is the second most used site, next to Google. It is by far and away the most used site that isn't a search engine. Many sources of media have their own, verified section (page) of Facebook, and Facebook is conti What you're seeing is probably just isolated incidents of Entitleds who exhausted a previous abundance of orbiters by using them until they cracked. To addre…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 10:08 PM
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This girl has threatened hurting herself in the past and shows signs of Borderline I need to distance myself and create a healthy supportive environment. Make sure to protect yourself. Don't delete anything where she has threatened you (by proxy of hurting herself) or in any other way. Hamsters, if they cannot rationalize a desired win-back, or do not desire it, will seek other ways of recompense. She may try to ruin your life entirely. She may only just try to ruin your social standing among mu…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 07:55 PM
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I suppose I should have worded it better, ultimately it fails. It can spread for now. The virus has cells left to infect.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 07:28 PM
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It all stacked up, and how shes on tinder looking to “settle down. That doesn't stack up. Nor do "only 3 fucks with only bfs!" from a girl with that sort of SMV, on tinder. Do whatever you like but don't buy any bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 07:20 PM
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Ask them about their hobbies. Don't just let conversations get onto serious topics. Be light-hearted and have a little more fun just simply interacting with people with no expectations. Try and see what makes them enjoy what they like so much. Also to address one of the other comments, where you said you want men to do most of the work in pursuit: The type of man you really want to chase you will chase you if you give them reason to think there's something to pursue there. I'm not saying be a sl…
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/15 07:00 AM
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Clearly you are washing your Red Pills down with SJW tears.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 08:38 AM
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It won't work. Anything that disregards the laws of nature so vehemently is doomed to fail spectacularly.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 08:36 AM
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I was just thinking of writing up a post on the futility of social engineering, or rather, not really expounding on it but explaining how my sisters all confirm TRP truths to me, and the tone in which they do so as premiere-SMV women really says a lot.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/15 08:33 AM
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Love it when Molyneux destroys the "15 reasons to date a single mother". He is ruthless when it comes to welfare states.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 09:25 PM
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Yeah. There isn't much substance over at The Blue Pill. Purple Pill Debate is at least slightly better, but they still will angrily dispute obvious empirical fact because they don't like where the basis of those facts leads to when TRP succeeds in proving the basis is valid to begin with.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/15 05:02 AM
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Haha, Edit: Addressing new users, this story involves snippets of a lengthy meeting with "Sally" that support the lesson. This was not a verbatim retelling of all elements of that meeting. You're meticulous OP. I do not doubt you are a lawyer at all. This post is a nice change up, as it provides a strictly business context to where an emotional mechanism is predominant, even when potentially large amounts of resources are on the line. Perhaps, especially when that circumstance is a reality.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/15 04:52 AM
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That's what TBP relies on. Nearly everything they say is a strawman that demands AWALT as a necessary logical extension to conscious thought, deliberately misrepresenting the context of the statement (which is admittedly a practical generalization and not an absolutist decree).
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 11:40 PM
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You are operating on the assumption that she was trying to secure an LTR, and also the assumption that OP did lie by omission. He could have said "I only want fun" and she can interpret it as "ok, but I can change your mind" and never even state that as a goal. As for wanting fun as opposed to an LTR, it does seem she wanted fun primarily if she is calling him daddy on the first date and fucking him in the backseat of a car right when they are first meeting. Hmm. I will say though you are right …
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 10:59 PM
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nonetheless subject to its influence. Refutes own criticism anyway with the conclusion. Culture is a byproduct of natural order. And to imply the biological clock isn't a real thing just shows you aren't going to find any good argumentation. It's just resentment for a natural process. It doesn't change anything.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 08:59 PM
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Two issues: 1) Ethics: Exchange of culture and ideas are increasingly global, not national anymore. 2) The people behind the US empire won't be falling with it. The world economy is industrialized and vastly interconnected. The ties between the extremely wealthy and powerful globally have never been stronger. They couldn't give less of a fuck about the ideologies of their workers, so long as their material wants are met.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/15 11:06 AM
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What? Typical blowback from radical extremist groups, that come from countries that can't even invade Israel (let alone other Western nations) and would be torn apart in mere days if they tried? The West enjoys a certain level of comfort from it's military enterprising. It's mostly a consolidation of wealth and economic power, really comes at the cost of other nations. Is it sustainable? We'll see. Is it ethical? No. My feelings? Do I really need feelz or rational thinking to see the wars are a …
/r/TheRedPill30/11/15 12:07 AM
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I'd put money on her not being a virgin already
/r/TheRedPill29/11/15 09:52 PM
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Morality is subjective. But whatever judgment you cast for an action, then you should cast it on all demographics. For instance, I can only assume Blues despise all magazines that tell women how to attract men and improve themselves for other ends as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:00 PM
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Just think about the absurdity, if there was "how to not steal" training for minorities there would be riots in the streets So much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:38 AM
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No one called that "thought policing." We'll just ignore that completely false statement. It was also an appeal-to-emotion projection (non-argument). He basically said, "I know what yes and no mean" and got threatened with violence from groups of people, in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:02 AM
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