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Inner Game Hegemon1984/r/seduction19/10/20 04:33 PM
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I'm half filipino / half white... I got this 😎
/r/seduction02/06/22 02:05 PM
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It has to do with body language, how you project yourself to the world, and how you think. Most guys can't pick up on the subtle cues that give off a "creepy vibe". They don't know what it is. Consequently, they believe it's just "all women just want chad." In reality, if the same guy changed his mindset, he'll "magically" find more women attracted to him. His body language is inherently more confident, his tonality improves, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:53 PM
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I went to a Roosh V conference in Phoenix. All the men proclaimed to be Red Pill, but each of them had a shared feature: They were loners; their vibes reminded me of an ex-convict who was recently released; tried to one-up you in some way. A few were successful businessmen, most were not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:05 PM
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The real question is: How will you change it? Why not work within the parameters that currently exist? It is easier to embrace and work with what you've got than changing the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:18 AM
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I'll ask you a different question : Do you accept male nature? It's in men's nature to oppress women. That's how humanity has survived for so long, So why can men's nature be controlled but not women's? I acknowledge it, but I don't accept it since it isn't useful for me in a practical sense. I could oppress a woman - any man could - but how would that help me in life? The reason for acceptance is because it assists you and your goals. I could debate all day long regarding why men's nature shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:31 AM
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Auras? Really? Red Pill men - both in real life and online - tend to give off pretty negative vibes. It certainly doesn't improve your social or dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:09 AM
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What do you mean non-traditional? What do you think RP is?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:42 AM
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It changes everything. If you hate women for how they operate, how can you expect success? You have to truly accept women for how they are. Truly. Are women more hypergamous and promiscuous nowadays? Yes! Good for them. It's how they survived millions of years. It makes sense from a biological standpoint. How can you hate nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:41 AM
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If you're interested, here's the video I'm referencing in the OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYWgxOjEPKs&t=198s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:27 AM
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No, that is acknowledgment. Not acceptance. Acceptance is, well, accepting how things are. It isn't bad. It isn't good. It just is. You operate within those parameters as objectively as possible. If you complain online about something, it means you disagree with it. That means you think it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:26 AM
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Most RP men I've encountered online tend to whine and mock a ton. It isn't a sign of true acceptance. You shouldn't have a problem if women nowadays are more hypergamous or promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:20 AM
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How very interesting. I've always wanted to venture into South Africa. However, I've been told by a few guys abroad SA felt like the United States dating wise. I can attest to your Colombia statement. I was in Bogota for 2 weeks. I got a TON of interest from the locals. I was absolutely floored all of my numbers were solid. Every. Single. One. No flakes. No matter how shitty the set went. However, I didn't speak Spanish and I couldn't capitalize on the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:29 AM
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Interesting. On a side note, I've got a buddy who lived in South Korea. He and his boys were slaying over there apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:25 AM
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The ones you'd expect. Saudi Arabia - virtually all of the Middle East and North Africa - Argentina, Italy. There are a few more, but that's what pops up off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:21 AM
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Hehe I'm heading to Wroclaw this Feb. Got a connect over there. I'm curious how it'll be. Everyone rants and raves about how great Poland is. I don't want to overhype anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:12 AM
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I live in Chicago. There are no reprisals since the city is absolutely massive with an extra helping of tourism. I personally wouldn't say American women are hard. If you want to use PUA terminology, the United States is very intermediate level. However, what I've noticed is that dating an American woman is a long process. And they generally don't make it easy for you. One fumble - or, at least a big enough fumble - and you're out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:57 AM
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All of this checks out with my experiences. Most European women I've met were "white collar" overall. And I think the best part about European women is the fact they really are easy to hang out with. I could be more of myself without all the game required on American chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:52 AM
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My n-count is 7
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:28 AM
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Whoa what the heck didn't expect to see you here!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:52 AM
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I've dated tons of Eastern European women. They're different, sure, but overall I'd say they're more receptive to cold approach compared to your average American woman. We will see, though. I head to Poland early 2023, so we'll see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 12:31 AM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:40 PM
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I thought that'd be the case, too. But it isn't. Russian girls REALLY love me. I never had a bad experience with one. I'd say stoicism is definitely true with Polish and Czech women though. But remember, this is all in the United States. I'm sure I'll get a drastically different response in their home countries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:15 PM
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Just the women. Interestingly enough, British guys and I are very neutral with each other. The issue is that I'm playful, high energy at first, and a bit silly. The Brits don't seem to like that. Germans are next on my "Do not Vibe Well" with list. On the other hand, Russian women simply match my vibe and Austrians kinda play along for enough time. Other ethnicities I've had mostly positive or neutral, leaning positive experiences with are Polish, Czech, Lithuanians and lots of EE countries (exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:58 PM
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For some reason I feel like British women might be open to exotic men who are also culturally similar to them (so your US side will work well), and no language barrier too. I live in Chicago. The Brits and I absolutely do not vibe. If I had to choose which European ethnicity I don't get along with the most, it's definitely the British. On the other hand, I had the best experiences with Russian and Austrian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:47 PM
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Went to Bogota last year. It was great, but the language barrier fucked it up. I had a ton of interest by simply being bold during my cold approaches, but I couldn't capitalize on the opportunity due to the fact I didn't speak Spanish. That, and half Filipinos / half Whites look Hispanic. My value boost was merely the fact I was an American, but not the "best kind" (aka white). It's funny you mention Southeast Asia, though. I do plan to hit the Philippines eventually, but mainly due to the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:38 PM
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PUA here. Why not have a rotation instead of poly? I'm from the pickup artist community. We don't really practice the poly lifestyle. If a girl we're with is banging another dude, we don't really care since we have another chick on the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:46 PM
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A lot of guys get jaded/upset with the situation and it shows. Just take a look around this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:51 PM
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Or do both. That's what I'm doing. As someone who practiced pickup consistently for over 1 1/2 years, I've discovered game is one of those skills you can lose quickly. Not only that, but gaming in the US is, well, a long game. As in - it takes quite a while to seduce a woman. A few hours, followed by a date or two before you're finally able to seal the deal. Even then, you can flub along the way and lose your progress with a specific woman. Also, due to the multicultural nature of the United Sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:51 PM
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Learn game. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:48 PM
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Do you want true traditionalism like Saudi Arabia or something else? I highly doubt we'd go back to 1950s era morality unless a major religion overthrew the current government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:29 PM
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Sems to be the opposite should be done in the Western World where fertility rates are dropping and a lot of societal troubles are arising. Ironically, in traditional countries like Eastern Europe, fertility rates are lower than Western Europe. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Fertility\_statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:59 PM
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Brother, I hate saying this, but there's too much word salad insomuch I can barely comprehend what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:40 PM
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I spent about 6 years as one of the trainers for a local chapter of Red Pill guys. I spent a lot of time back then helping the younger guys learn how to run game. I have watched the dating market shift dramatically in that time. Personally for me... the dating market has never been better. I'm curious - but you may not have the intel I need, so that's fine - but have you traveled to other countries and observed the dating culture there? If so, how does it differ from the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:22 AM
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Growing and maintaining a social circle, including making female (and male) friends without the expectation of sex or a relationship, which is what all people, every goddamn human should do if they hope for a romantic or sexual relationship. And that's what most people do. No argument there. I'm more a nomadic type who doesn't like establishing deep connections. So game is an excellent way to meet girls for me. Let me guess, you have videos, blogs, or social media posts to click on? I'm not skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:17 AM
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No. Charisma is a natural affinity and pleasure taken in socializing with all sorts of people without a goal. Charisma is a natural affinity for some, but not all. It can easily be taught if the student is willing to push his limits - and hard. I know guys who LOVE to talk, but I most certainly wouldn't call them charismatic. You describe seeing women as a means to an end. That isn’t charisma, that’s desperation for female attention. To you it is desperation for female attention. For most pickup…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:07 AM
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What, exactly, do you believe “game” is? Cornering women who are busy and willing to say whatever it takes to get rid of a sales pitch? Game, in it's most basic form, is charisma. What you're mentioning is "cold approach", which is simply a way of meeting women, but not exclusively. There are pickup artists who focus on meeting women via social circle - or hell, providing enough value that YOU create the social circle of hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:59 AM
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Situs like the ones OP posted are reasons why I laugh at MGTOW & blackpill dudes who believe in the lookism lie. I've seen some pretty busted dudes date women above their leagues in Denver, Chicago and Dallas many times. Game works. Charisma works. Guys who believe in exclusively looks and money need to touch grass and simply observe the people around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:39 AM
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I have a fairly pretty friend who is dating a guy that is most definitely lookswise not her match. But he's a genuinely awesome guy if you take the time to get to know him Omg but game doesn't work right???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:36 AM
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I'm heading to Poland first from the United States. And I've always wanted to travel and test my game on the locals there to see how the dating market differs compared to the United States
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:51 PM
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No, my game is inherently geared for those in the 18-25 range. Once I discover their age and the background, I tailor it to fit their life experience. Usually it's the fun, playful version of myself. How do I know I've had a more exciting life that most? I've met a ton of them. Most of them just entered college, maybe visited a country... once, but that's it. On the other hand, I've lived in multiple States, visited multiple countries, have crazy party stories, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:19 PM
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How do you get over the different mentalities and life stages? Or do you just hook up so you don't give a shit about that? Lots more emotion spiking compared to older women. Less logic, more playful. Qualifiers work exceptionally well on women ages 19-21 since you seem 'cooler' than them. Consequently, the more they invest, the more they're bought into me as a person. Life experience helps, too. I've objectively had a more exciting life than 99% of them. So it's easy to capitalize on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:16 AM
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Here's one: https://www.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/comments/sjubxg/my\_1\_year\_pickup\_journey/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:44 AM
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The reason being lots of guys don't come from a background like you did. I certainly didn't. Growing up, I was shy, introverted, and kept to myself most of the time. Maybe "be social and have a good time", doesn't come naturally to certain dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:34 AM
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You do know RP teaches certain pickup tactics too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:32 AM
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If it did hurt, I didn't feel it nor do I care. The quality is fine, the amount of dates I've gotten is fine, too. What's an extra few girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:30 AM
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It's not because I target them. I meet 'em off the street and coincidentally they're 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:58 AM
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I'm on a hiatus so I can focus on my freelance writing business. Other than that, I re-posted my 1 Year Anniversary thread on r/seduction. Check it out here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/t8f6pl/reflection_my_1_year_game_anniversary/ Edit: It was removed idk why, but you should still be able to see the thread content.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:45 AM
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a) more women know about PUA's - they call them f*ckboys, and incel losers, and don't want to associate with them Fuckboys, yes. The term "incel" is not known to the general public outside of the internet. I have heard women use the term fuckboy, but not incel. I've met business women, college girls, party girls, foreigners, etc. I think they'd probably use the term "weirdo" or just say, "he's hella weird" instead. b) womens expectations and standards have gone up exponentially since then you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:41 AM
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Todd V for outer game + GirlsChase if I need auxiliary techniques to use infield. James Marshall & Julian Blanc for inner game. Eckhart Tolle for "passive" inner game when I need to practice mindfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:34 AM
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Short or not, it hasn't affected my dating life one bit!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:28 AM
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Objectively tall lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:25 AM
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I am one. I've seen it drastically transform my life. I doubt what I personally experienced from pickup is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:24 AM
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There's a common misconception you don't have to be yourself as a pickup artist. You do. We call it the comfort phase. However, it isn't some low value version of yourself, but rather, a high value version of YOU. The real you. What you're truly capable of without lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:21 AM
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Some people think 5'6'' is short, some don't. Hence why the quotations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:20 AM
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I'm "short" (5'6''). It hasn't hurt my dating opportunities at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:09 AM
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Gotchu. 'Cuz I'm a 29 year old dude and I've dated 19 year old women before, so I was curious if that's considered toxic or predatory lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:05 AM
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Exactly. If a guy wants to learn cold approach seriously, I'm happy for him. If not - well then, less competition for me and my tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:53 AM
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Blog, copywriting and technical writing. My primary goal is blog posts for small to mid sized tech companies. I'm a software engineer with over three years experience. I'm hoping that gives me a leg up in the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:52 AM
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On the rare occasion it does happen, if it's not toxic or predatory I'm pretty much indifferent to it What do you mean toxic or predatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:46 AM
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Never got into OLD. Thank fuck OLD was stigmatized in the 2000s when I was in high school and anyone who used it was a loser. The belief stuck onto me until this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:42 AM
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Can't wait to start my freelance writing business! Goal is to save up $$$ before dipping off to Eastern Europe. I'm excited to see how the dating market operates over there compared to the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 01:40 AM
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Okay but why should I choose a guy who took until he's older when I could have one that got it right from the get go who is my age? You wouldn't. Go with the younger guy. It's a smart decision. Most dudes in their early 20s aren't well put together though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:00 PM
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Pickup artist here. Most PUAs don't really engage the red pill community. Todd V, Julian Blanc, James Marshall, you name it. They may make a token video as to WHY they disagree with certain aspects of red pill, but that's as far as it usually goes. Pickup teaches theory, yes, but PUAs tend to be highly pragmatic and only focuses on a specific theory if it benefits you infield. Red Pill seems heavier on the theory side and consequently, may delve into other manosphere circles a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:45 PM
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American men don't have to worry about it for much longer. By the beginning of 2023, I plan to become a digital nomad and dip off to Eastern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:25 PM
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Hypothetical dating scenario about “women liking older men” Go to Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia or South America. Everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:24 PM
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I cannot fathom unironically believing this A man child at 20 will be a man child at 35, a mature man at 20 will be mature at 35 Most men begin maturing at 25. That's what happened to me. When I was younger (18-23), all I cared about was raves, girls, drugs, and breezed through life like a feather in the wind. I had no long-term goals nor any role models I could aspire to become. Fast forward a few years later, I realized my life was drifting by and I hadn't achieved much - if anything - in life…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:21 PM
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Agreed. My sister and I are the kids of a medical doctor. She ended up marrying a marine and has 5 kids with him. I'm currently living with her so I can save up a ton of $$$ for my new freelance writing business... and the kids are loud
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:49 PM
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I feel that brutha, day game is going to rock for the next year or so in Poland. I've dealt with ethnic Ukrainians back in Chicago. They're tough cookies to crack (ironically enough, I vibe super, super well with Russian women), with this whole situ in Ukraine, I'm curious how that'll change
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:37 PM
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Has anyone seen any RP field reports about building bridges with Ukrainian refugees? Not yet, but once I hit up Wroclaw, that'll be one of my first objectives. If you're nomadic (or seeking to become a DN), you're in a really good spot in EE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:39 PM
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Hey I think I recognise your username... You're supposed to be spreading the good word of submissiveness! But anywho, pickup been exceptionally useful to me. I've dated dozens of women in Chicago and racked up 7 notches thanks exclusively to pick up skills I learned. With this refugee crisis on the way + influx of literally thousands of women, it can only go UP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:35 PM
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I'm a PUA, not someone who p4p. Also, I have connects in Wroclaw, none in SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:12 PM
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Ukrainian refugee camp day game, when? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:06 PM
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I'm starting my digital nomad journey in Poland, Ukrainian refugee camps is where it's at 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:04 PM
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I'm becoming a digital nomad early 2023, I can't wait to hit up my nearest refugee center in Poland
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:53 PM
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7 in total. 1 girlfriend, all the rest were one-night stands. If you want more stats, one lay was from day game, one from social circle. The rest from night game.
/r/seduction27/02/22 02:48 PM
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Usually my place, but I live next to a cafe so it was easy. After we've gone on a few dates and I gain her trust more we dip to either her or my place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:41 AM
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and straight women will actually reciprocate. This is the real answer right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:41 PM
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Where did you post this before, TRP, Seduction? SwoopTheWorld, it's an international forum for PUAs and TRP folks. Couldn’t you also just lie and say you’re a student there, if you’re blending in well enough. I mean if you’re in the cafeteria or library it might seem suspicious if you’re simply “waiting” for someone. Yes, you could. It's funny you mention that. I had to change my strategy once I landed in Chicago. Girls in Chi town are hella cautious and once they realized I wasn't a student, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:53 PM
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I was born in 1992. 1984 is from the dystopian novel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:35 PM
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What country are you in? Also, what is your strategy for college campus game? That sounds like something I would be good at as I used to do it when I was actually in college. United States. Let me give you my old tips & tricks post for college campus game. College campus day game was my bread and butter before the lockdown. They're far superior to malls, nightclubs, or any venue in my personal opinion. Just be aware, one question that always comes up is: "So, what are you going for?" In which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:45 AM
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me too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:19 AM
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If she says she's into Lacuna Coil or Evanescence you're in But in all honesty, I really resonate with hipster girls hella hard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:18 AM
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Hitting on married women though? That’s crossing a line. Maybe you’ll be on the receiving end of infidelity one day, and you’ll be able to appreciate the suffering you’ve helped inflict on our country’s servicemen. While I'm a pretty amoral dude, this one I agree with. It just sucks since they're so, soooo receptive and enthusiastic to please you. When I lived in MO, they were everywhere. Virtually all of them were hella receptive, but I couldn't go through with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:09 AM
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No, we're taught inner game as well. Look up James Marshall, RSD Julian (or JulianHimself), or a plethora of other PUAs out there. What I - and dozens of other PUAs I know IRL and online - is mix game theory. For example, my outer game is primarily based on Todd V. However, when I'm not infield, I practice mindfulness meditation or good mindsets which help me achieve my goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 01:28 AM
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Why dont they just go PUA instead of TRP? PUA teaches exactly what you described and much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:21 PM
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Usually the girl saying she's trans comes out in convo before it gets to that point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:44 PM
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There's a major difference between real life and "studies". And lemme tell you shit works like fire lol... Girls dgaf once I'm 20-30 mins in convo w them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:40 PM
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Maybe you do. In my experience girls go with their gay friends 90% of the time... Tbh lots of girls are hella bored at gay clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:37 PM
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Yeh I see whatchu mean. Still that shit wouldn't happen in the States. Our equivalent of the article posted above are bouncers charging a hefty entrance fee for dudes while chicks get in free
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:36 PM
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Lololol sounds like my first "gf" in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:32 PM
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It's pretty easy tbh. I posted a guide on what I do at gay bars on this thread. Easy as pie compared to normal nightclubs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:04 AM
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Lol I make it work. I posted this on another question asking if I get blown out by straight chicks at gay clubs. I'll repost it here: No, since I don't hit on them directly. If you want my "game stratagem", when it comes to gay clubs, I'll tell you. I usually get warmed up by talking to everyone first. This is mostly gay guys. Once I chat up a few peeps, I've probably gotten hit on at least once lol. Let's say I see a girl. 9 times out of 10, she's with her friends. Her friends are gay 90% of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:53 AM
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It's just way easier at gay clubs. Why waste my social and mental energy with bitchy chicks when I can go to a venue that's more efficient overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:47 AM
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Well, I'll tell you right now a gay club has a much more upbeat, social vibe compared to your typical bar/club. It's easier to get into the social mood
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:33 AM
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Do you mean women have bitch shields?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:30 AM
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And why didn't you have a good experience at bars?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:27 AM
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It seems as though females are very on guard at bars. A straight guy trying to meet someone at a gay venue, that would seem a hard thing to pull off. Do a lot of straight single females usually go? Yes, plenty. Usually with their gay friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:22 AM
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Yeah and tbf gay dudes are super friendly... for obvious reasons, but the social momentum and positive feedback you get from gay clubs really puts you "in state", if you wanna use pickup terminology. Consequently, that + lower bitch shields + vibing w a girl makes it so much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:22 AM
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You'd think so, but that's not usually the case. Alot of straight women go there because they have gay friends. The women I've met at gay clubs are bored outta their minds tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:20 AM
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That shit don't exist in the States... that'd be considered discrimination lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:18 AM
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Dude, yes. Their bitch shields are waaaay lowered at gay clubs since you're most likely the only straight dude there. Feminists are just hella salty since I found a loophole in their system. But here's a few pointers if you want to try your hand at a gay club: Just vibe with everyone, including the gays. Make them think you're "one of them", if you catch my drift. After you established social value with the regulars/patrons, then approach the girls... but not in the way you're thinking. Don't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:16 AM
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To them I say... Seethe more. Seriously, I dont advertise to other straight dudes to go to gay bars since... Ironically... It's my mini straight paradise. My friends I did tell just don't want to go since its full of gay dudes and are afraid to get hit on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:38 AM
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I've hooked up with one girl from a gay bar, and her guard was much more down than usual even though she knew I was a straight guy. Just another reason I call women goofy. Exactly. This is why going to a gay club to pickup chicks is waaaaay easier. No competition whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:58 PM
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1984 is from the dystopian novel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:44 PM
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u/gimpgirl555 I'd like you to do me a favor and spread your message to every man and woman across the world lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:52 PM
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And you can easily fuck it up. I'm a pickup artist and I've dealt with literally hundreds of women. On dates, cold approach, tryna pull after everything seems solid - but you fuck up just once, and depending on what it is, it all goes to shit. Granted, it IS good practice, but it takes up a whole lotta time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:48 PM
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Hey man, even if its 10-20 degrees warmer, I'm gucci
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:44 PM
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I believe if you set your mind to anything, you can make it happen. I've dated dozens of women through sheer practice of cold approach and I started off as a small, geeky Asian nerd. And I never went to college to learn programming. As is, my family contacts me quite often, but we're not in the same boat. I have lots of goals and dreams to accomplish, they're all settled with families. I vaguely keep in contact with them. I have friends, but they're replaceable. So, my connections are shaky at b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:44 PM
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You better speak Spanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:40 PM
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its a cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:36 PM
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No lol, I get to work
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:07 PM
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Very fair question. That does make a difference - to an extent. For example, I live in Chicago. I'm currently visiting Springfield, MO to escape the cold. The dating scene here is very different in either cities. However, they're still within the scope of US dating. Girls in both cities carry US values of varying degrees. You have no exotic value. Your game fluctuates greatly and will have to switch whether you're in either city. Meanwhile, in other countries, dating is extraordinarily different…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:07 PM
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Nah, I'm serious. I look at my drive and the shit I've accomplished in life and I'm curious why others can't do the same. I used to work as a CNA (ie. I wiped disabled people's ass for a living) and lived with two roommates. Now I'm a successful engineer who has 12K saved up. If all you do is read, write, and talk about not having sex, you must really, and I mean REALLY, care about it so much you'd be willing to upend your life to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:00 PM
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Right… but if you aren’t going to provide financially, how long are they sticking around? Who cares, make cash and smash ass son. But in reality, if you want a long-term gf, don't spend lavishly on them lol... get to know 'em and since your value is already sky high, make them comfortable with you And is your potential target going to be anything to help financially support the future family? Hopefully by that time, you're earning enough from your online job to make this question null, but even …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:58 PM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:55 PM
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I think lots of inexperienced dudes need to go through that faze if they're daring enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:52 PM
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Why would they care if they never see you again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:44 PM
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If anything it's in the interest of all feminists to discourage men from shopping for wives in the developing world in order to protect those women from developed world exploitation... Oh fuck yeah gunna exploit em like fuckin king leopold II
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:44 PM
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Complaining is bad for the soul
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:26 PM
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then get good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:25 PM
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Yeah, but I'mma dip my toes in it just to see which specific writing niche fits best. I'm def torn between copywriting, content writing or technical writing tho. If technical writing doesn't pan out, I'll try copywriting next
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:24 PM
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They sure spend lots of time/effort thinkin and complaining about it online lol, esp those involved in literally any 'pill' sphere
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:08 PM
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I’d rather complain in comfort then fuck girls in squalor Whatchu mean if you work online, you probs make american $$$, and you live like a king over there lol Most americans make 1.5K usd online monthly and live great in lots of SEA countries
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:04 PM
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Nah, but I've volunteered to do technical writing at work. My co-workers don't know why, but I tell 'em I just have an interest in it. In the meantime, I've been looking into copywriting / content writing and I'd be niching down in tech since I already got experience in it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:00 PM
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So far I've only hit Bogota and Japan. Been getting my grind on this freelance writing business so I can officially begin my travel across SEA and EE. First country to hit is def the Phils (I'm a flip so it's easier for me to blend in), before hitting up Poland, Latvia, Romania, Belarus, etc. I already got game, so I want to find countries that ain't as time consuming as the States, but also ain't to easy. Plannin to hit the phils as easy mode tho, so I can rack up an assload of notches before d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:55 PM
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What countries you plannin to hit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:17 PM
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I suppose you're right in that aspect. You need street smarts and the ability to read body language / tonality to see if shit is a scam or not. Lots of dudes who can't get laid don't possess said skills. But still, overall, it's waaaaay easier than in the States
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:15 PM
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Yes, street smarts if you've got 'em. Lots of things can be self-taught, no college degree (ie. debt) required. Don't make big ass purchases is another one. If you need a car, go the cheapest route you can follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:13 PM
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i fully acknowledge the privilege i have in being able to say, plan and do all that. My brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:12 PM
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Depends, what does said individual have going for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:10 PM
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Doesn't have to be a software engineer, just have discipline and save a set amount of $$$ per month
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:08 PM
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You're blackpill, what do YOU have going for you in the States? If it's career you're worried about, lots of jobs have gone remote due to covid. Family? Yes, it's a shame, but most of the times, their goals don't align with your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:07 PM
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They stifle themselves by remaining in situs not conductive to their success is all
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:05 PM
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Lots of them don't exclusively want you for your bank account... you've got social value as well, especially in the Phils
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:04 PM
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Nor am I. I'm Filipino / White
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:03 PM
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No, but there's a really good chance man. Esp if you're a white American in some of these countries
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:03 PM
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My favorite response thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:55 PM
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true enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:54 PM
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Oh? Are you a politician or something? Don't know how you'd improve it for all men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:48 PM
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Yes, but I suppose I'm different than most people. I'm inherently nomadic. I get bored of a city after a few months before dipping. I don't care if I've already made ties in aforementioned city. It's such a shame people are so reluctant to take risks or chase what they want at some imaginary expense or because others don't want them to. If you want something so badly, go on and get it no matter the cost imo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:46 PM
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Sure, I've met quite a few dudes who have... and they're happy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:43 PM
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I'm a software engineer who spends his money wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:43 PM
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No, I'm in the process of learning freelance writing so I can become a digital nomad. It's cheap as fuck in all three countries I mentioned. All you need to do is save up at least 10k, make at least 1k or so online before dipping abroad. After that, you get a long-term visa -> renew it every few months. For reference, I'm a self-taught software engineer. Took me two years of studying to land my first job. From what I understand, making money online takes far less time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:39 PM
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Taylor Swift
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:19 PM
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Active pursuit is on a downturn. Hey man, that's GREAT for me. I'm an active cold approacher. Less competition is fucking wonderful. I don't have to deal with stupid hobbyists who have a tendency to burn down cities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:05 PM
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Pickup
/r/seduction27/12/21 01:59 AM
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Fair warning, it's 99% field reports. Won't be of much use to beginners. Mostly intermediates and above.
/r/seduction25/12/21 03:23 AM
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What? No, as in - if you're portraying yourself as this fun, silly guy, most Russian women will try to be fun and silly just like you. They try and make the interaction easy for the guy by copying his vibe in my experience.
/r/seduction25/12/21 02:39 AM
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Amen. I've never - not once - had a bad experience with a Russian woman. I've said it once and I'll say it again: If you're looking for a woman who is easy to talk to, who will match your vibe if you lead, and overall are a joy to be around, Russians take the cake hands-down.
/r/seduction25/12/21 12:39 AM
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Hey brother, I like your style. So, I'll be honest, I ditched the sub since it gives a fuckton of beginner level advice and it's full of dudes who believe you should be "natural" with your interactions. Hella lame and only works on girls who are inherently into you. It doesn't account for girls who are neutral or don't give overt IOIs. Got a sub you may be interested in, I'll ping ya the details
/r/seduction25/12/21 12:30 AM
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Indicator of Interest. Also, u/rotter111 is full of shit who probably doesn't game. Ignore his advice lol. If I only approached girls who gave me IOIs, I'd never have met my ex-gf, dozens of girls I dated, etc.
/r/seduction24/12/21 01:38 AM
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200
/r/seduction22/12/21 03:46 PM
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29
/r/seduction20/12/21 08:19 AM
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It's TRT I'm on it forever
/r/seduction20/12/21 02:13 AM
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Bro I'm on week 5 of shooting steroids up my ass and I feel way more confident vs before I started. For some reason, I'm nailing night game waaaay better because of it
/r/seduction19/12/21 09:38 PM
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Yes, but I also eat alot. So I have noticeable arms, chest and shoulders... but have a stomach. But I get agree on the haircut and smelling nice part
/r/seduction19/12/21 08:01 PM
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Sort of. Kind of. ... Not really lol I'm 5'6'', slightly overweight, and only hit the gym 3 times a week. I still do well for myself in both a day and night game setting
/r/seduction19/12/21 06:13 PM
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If you're looking for techniques, I'd recommend Todd V. Just remember, the goal is 80% comfort (ie. Be yourself in a high value manner) and 20% value (ie. Push pulls, qualifiers, etc) I won't lie, when you first start employing techbiques infield, you'll be terrible, socially uncalibrated and obvious with them. As time continues on - hard practice of a single technique for a month or so - they slowly integrate into your personality
/r/seduction19/12/21 05:46 PM
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Nope, I like Austrians way better
/r/seduction18/12/21 08:12 PM
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God, I agree. I fucking love Russian women. If you're looking for a woman who is easy to talk to, who will match your vibe if you lead, and overall are a joy to be around, Russians take the cake hands-down. I don't think I've ever had a bad experience with a Russian chick.
/r/seduction18/12/21 03:24 AM
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Stepping out of your comfort zone, learning techniques and implementing them infield. They'll be sloppy at first, but eventually they'll perform as intended. Also a good wing who is devoted to game. Biiiiig help during night game.
/r/seduction18/12/21 03:22 AM
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See, we've got opposite experiences. Must be our game styles or how we carry ourselves. But I get terrible reception from British women in Chicago. And I've been gaming full-time for a year lol
/r/seduction18/12/21 02:04 AM
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No, hell no, fuck the British. I get the exact opposite experience compared to yours. I get blown off hella fast with the Brits. Irish are okay. Best women for me are Eastern Europeans (especially Russians) with positive experience with the French
/r/seduction18/12/21 02:00 AM
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There are two types of "naturals". a.) Guys who've gotten girls since they were teenagers. We're not talking about these types of naturals. b.) Guys who were previously unsuccessful with women, but became "natural" by being true with their intentions and genuine sub-comms. I'm assuming you're talking about the latter vs the former. The reason why it takes so long with natural game is due to the fact it's incredibly abstract compared to learning techniques (ie. push-pulls, qualifiers, statement o…
/r/seduction17/12/21 07:37 PM
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Don't knock it til you've tried it
/r/seduction17/12/21 07:29 PM
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In my experience, natural game is the slowest to implement out of all the pickup styles which currently exist. I'd personally recommend against it unless you've put in hard time infield.
/r/seduction17/12/21 07:27 PM
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It's easy. You don't have positive reference experiences. I used to hate clubbing, bars and night game in general. But my buddy is the exact opposite. I'm the day game guy, he's the night game guy. So we do both equally. Once I started getting more attention, easier attraction, and overall just upping my skillset at night, I began to slowly but surely prefer it over the day. All you need is one or two positive reference experiences (ie. you make out with a girl, you make a connection with someon…
/r/seduction17/12/21 07:18 PM
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Natural game still exists. A HUGE subset of r/seduction practices it. I personally don't, but I know this sub is heavily into it Edit: If you're interested, I made a list of game styles which currently exist in pickup. Helped lots of newbies. Link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jiqk3c/hegemons_list_of_game_styles/
/r/seduction17/12/21 05:00 PM
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Wtf hi
/r/seduction14/12/21 08:06 PM
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It's been one of my go-tos for a while now. Visited Bogota this Feb, while I overgamed the shit outta the place, it was strange to see how normal relationships operated over there lol... especially compared to American girls where you HAVE to run value based game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:18 PM
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Sort of. My Dad won custody of myself and two sisters over my Mom. He was a medical doctor and she a housewife. However, she took us without his permission over to California. Long story short, he thought she'd return after a few days... and she was gone six months to live with my Aunt with my siblings and I. He filed for a divorce. My Mom tried getting custody of us and made up a bunch of shit about Dad. He had a ton of receipts and managed to prove her story wrong, though. At the end, he got c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:13 PM
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Whelp, thats one country to get married in if you're a Western dude. Ironically, I'm half Filipino / half White lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:58 PM
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Yes, but I more so mean, countries that, let's say for example, don't require the men to give up half his shit or provide alimony after divorce. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:05 PM
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I live in Chicago and the dating scene here is definitely worth it. At your age, I discovered the RP and PUA community. I'm 29 now. However, if I had to change one thing it's don't focus on theory. No more watching RP YouTube videos, nor reading RP articles. Be pragmatic. Focus on your dating life and take steps to improve that. Learn techniques, inner game strategies, and get out infield in either a day or night setting. I couldn't tell you how many dudes I met who "weren't ready" and spend yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:13 PM
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This is why I'm not a big fan of RP. Yes, I believe lots of their theories are, in fact, valid. But to varying degrees. Lots of RP dudes paint women like Jews you'd see on Nazi propaganda posters - an exaggerated version of stereotypes that MAY hold some truth. I've met a few RP dudes irl as well, and lots of 'em are bitter. It's why I'd prefer the pickup community any day vs RP. However, in my experience, RP strategies work especially well for women in the 18-25 range; not really educated or go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:00 PM
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Don't worry, I was the same way at 23. Well, I was too try-hard at clubs/bars/raves... I'd get women into me, but I'd never capitalize on their interest since I was too scared of my own sexuality. I didn't discover the red pill / PUA sphere until I was 25. What really changed my mindset is: Do you realize how short life is? It can end at any moment, so you minus well give it the best you fucking have, no matter how long it takes you. In my experience brother, just head in the RIGHT direction (ie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:27 AM
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This is the best explanation I've seen regarding beta behavior. Being a beta not necessarily a bad thing - in actuality, and ironic saying this in the 21st Century - its GOOD for society as a whole. Betas are the backbone of all healthy civilizations. But if you try using beta game at the club or hell even day game cold approach, you are doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:01 PM
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It is too late brother, I have begun shooting steroids up my ass A month or two from now, I will probably write a field report on how TRT helped my game overall
/r/seduction18/11/21 06:50 PM
1

Whelp, I have 113 testosterone. Super low T.
/r/seduction17/11/21 05:17 PM
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Ya I'm getting tested anywho so it'll determine if I'm really low T or not. I'm meeting up with them tomorrow, so we'll see how it goes
/r/seduction15/11/21 06:15 PM
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Eckhart Tolle is terrible for inner game. I've seen many guys get fucked up by reading his books. So, no wonder you're struggling. Eckhart Tolle is fuckin' amazing. He's the foundation of presence I utilized for every set before I took my hiatus. He consists of the core - as in, simply being aware - off that, I build off a vibe I choose is suitable for the moment. You were on r/CovertPickup. I distinctly remember seeing your username. Have you checked my audio infields? This is completely normal…
/r/seduction13/11/21 04:13 PM
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This is some beginner level advice I'm able to do approaches, nail them some of the time, but lots of time I struggle due to a technical issue (ie. approach was too sudden) or the fact I'm not projecting the right vibe required for the situ (ie. sexual intent, a fun flirty vibe, etc)
/r/seduction13/11/21 04:05 PM
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29
/r/seduction13/11/21 02:49 AM
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developing some patience my dude Baaahhh I know I should. I really should. But I keep comparing myself to the old me a few months ago who was texting multiple girls, taking them out on dates, back to my apartment FROM THE FUCKIN' STREETS To now... A guy who is struggling past the first 5 minutes on the open... and hell, sometimes has a whole session of getting blown out
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:26 AM
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Whelp, I'm hitting the TRT doc on Tuesday, we'll do some bloods and find out
/r/seduction13/11/21 12:08 AM
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I do all three already lol + take Ashwaganda and DAA Granted, I started working out approximately a month or so ago, and I'm already seeing the "honeymoon gains" in the mirror. I'm just lookin' for an extra confidence boost infield TRT seems to be the answer
/r/seduction12/11/21 11:48 PM
1

We'll gladly take in serious gamers into the fold, here's to hoping a few puas take an interest to a true pickup community
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:05 PM
1

Why do you hang out in this shit sub, come back home to r/CovertPickup
/r/seduction02/11/21 04:59 PM
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This is moreso intermediate level advice. If you're a beginner, I'd highly advise using a canned open / structured open (ie. observational, situational, direct, indirect, etc), but if you want to jump to "the next level" so to speak, you have to trust you have those opens etched into your subconscious. That's when you tell your brain to shut up and trust whatever you're going to say is right. A majority of the time you DO jump back to an observational opener or whatever your preferred style of o…
/r/seduction16/10/21 06:25 PM
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Sort of. It's a mix of structured/natural. This post was intended for intermediates. On the surface level, this seems to be beginner level shit, but the point is to yes, use a model for an open, but eventually, you've got to trust yourself and don't rely exclusively on said model. The model (ie. observational opens, direct opens, etc) eventually just becomes another open style on your game repertoire.
/r/seduction16/10/21 06:23 PM
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Oh shit wazzap brutha
/r/seduction15/10/21 08:01 PM
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He's usually involved in those bitcoin "dump eet" memes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:50 AM
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I don't speak Portuguese );
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:01 AM
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RIP I'm a hapa who only dates whites and latinas
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:28 AM
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Grapes are tasty
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:27 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:19 PM
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Aw fuck yeah, time to submit hella sweet memes I've been saving up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:10 PM
1

How do you ridicule thirsty simps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:50 PM
1

Boi u tryna tempt me into goin south side to get shot
/r/seduction27/09/21 10:59 PM
1

How much better/worse is uchicago vs northwestern
/r/seduction27/09/21 10:50 PM
1

Bruh how beefed up is security in uchicago gunna be solid snaking that bitch tomorrow probs
/r/seduction27/09/21 10:49 PM
1

Bruh ur right Northwestern is prime game venue lots of 6s and 7s tho. Girls seem nerdy af lol
/r/seduction27/09/21 10:25 PM
1

Aw that sucks imma hit up Northwestern for now then heard they open to non students but we'll see... What's ur experience w northwestern girls
/r/seduction27/09/21 03:45 AM
1

I'm coming from far north and I'm crossing thriugh some ratchet ass hoods.... How did u get there
/r/seduction27/09/21 03:41 AM
1

brutha university of chicago is straight up in the hood of south side and i heard they aint even lettin in non students w/o clearance
/r/seduction27/09/21 03:16 AM
1

Pick up the phone son
/r/seduction26/09/21 05:37 PM
1

I see u mofo whatchu think of Northwestern in evanston
/r/seduction26/09/21 05:35 PM
4

It's easier... but don't think you can bring your American style game over to LatAm countries and expect it to work. Over in the States, we run a more "value" based game which American girls eat up like crazy. Think push-pulls, qualifiers, etc. When I went to Colombia, I tried the same thing and the chicks would get offended or blow me off. What I discovered that works is simply being a fun guy. That's it. Just be normal. Wrote up a whole FR about my time in Bogota
/r/seduction20/05/21 11:06 PM
1

*cough* r/CovertPickup *cough* to anyone reading this
/r/seduction13/05/21 06:51 PM
8

Yeah you can blame society’s blue pill conditioning and girls but that’s just having a victim mentality. They need snap out of the mentality and Be a man and take control of the life they are given. Not a RP guy here, moreso PUA but I agree with this sentiment. Lots of guys whine that "chad" is getting all the girls and something something about blue pills that reinforce their lack of action. It doesn't matter. People, the world, and society doesn't give a shit. What are you going to do? Expatri…
/r/askTRP29/03/21 02:12 PM
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Added my man
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:41 PM
1

Fosure man, I believe it. It's hard NOT to focus on, "Oh no, I'll be stuck in intermediate purgatory forever!" since I exclusively focus on trying to land same-day-lays and push the set as far as humanly possible. In hindsight, I know I should try to open -> run game for a solid number -> move onto the next girl, but I just stay in set for an hour or so at a time tryna bring the girl back to her/my place. In any other case brutha, I'm in a private sub filled with intermediate-advanced guys, we'd…
/r/seduction25/03/21 02:17 PM
6

Sweet Lord and the regression of skill, fuck that shit. I'm experiencing it right now. I'm 9 months into game, but I exclusively practiced outer game. Once I switched gears to inner game, my verbal skills plummeted. I felt like a newbie again. Ejecting out of set early; sounding nervous/anxious after the initial approach; qualifying myself to the girl when she should be qualifying; etc I was like, "What the fuck, Hegemon? I know this is bad game... why am I doing it anyway?" I had regressions be…
/r/seduction24/03/21 11:44 PM
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Getting rejected is very beginner level shit. There's a reason why so many intermediate-advanced guys bounced off r/seduction years ago. It's filled with an overabundance of AFCs (average frustrated chumps) who don't bother finding this shit out for themselves or have the balls to go out.
/r/seduction22/03/21 02:47 AM
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"Hardships." Getting rejected on social media. Not even in-person. Yeah, I'd give a pity upvote if OP got shot down by a guy who she was crushing on in-person. Shit sucks, believe me, I know. But online? That isn't even worth a tweet, my dude.
/r/seduction22/03/21 12:46 AM
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Who hurt me? 9 months of extremely consistent, hard labor out infield for hours at a time. Even when I first ran game and cold approached women out in the streets, I never ran to a support group. I internalized it, discovered what I did wrong vs what I did right, and kept at it. I worked past the motivation, when my legs burned from walking for so fucking long just to find a cute girl in the dead of winter, despite winging with guys who came and went. And you're sad because you got rejected by s…
/r/seduction22/03/21 12:35 AM
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I don't say this very often, but this is just a girl fishing for pity points. Guys who've gone through the same bullshit of getting rejected hundreds of times, I feel for. It's a soul-crushing grind that takes months of consistent work and practice to get even a GRASP of what you're doing right. What do we have instead? A bunch of dudes on r/seduction back patting some girl who got rejected on Instagram. Not even in-person, mind you. This is the weakest form of rejection anyone can get. Holy shi…
/r/seduction21/03/21 11:56 PM
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Brutha there's a reason why I switched to a private sub for game. Far too many times I come across posts like OP's. That and a fuckton of game denial
/r/seduction21/03/21 11:04 PM
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It's just Instagram. It's the weakest form of rejection you can get.
/r/seduction21/03/21 11:03 PM
1

If someone teases you (maybe because you’re already teasing them), beat them at their game, show you’re confident and smart as much (if not more) than them. If you can’t, then that wasn’t a shit test, it just was you unable to handle that kind of interaction with those people. Sounds like a good way to pass shit tests
/r/seduction21/03/21 11:00 PM
2

I think I heard a similar quote from Dead Like Me
/r/seduction21/03/21 10:45 PM
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Wait, you're sad because you got rejected ON SOCIAL MEDIA. Holy shit, if you knew what guys who got good at game have to go through
/r/seduction21/03/21 10:43 PM
1

Lololol that's why when I said her pet had a slavic name ("Tata" or something close) she told me, "I just cringe when I hear slavic!"
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:27 PM
1

Lol why do they need to feel better about themselves
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:21 PM
1

Yeah, she told me something along those lines. She was more in-tune with her Scandinavian neighbors up north compared to slavs
/r/seduction16/03/21 05:07 PM
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My current game objectives is technically to practice inner game, but my overarching goal is to land same-day-lays, hence why I tried bouncing her around and stay in set. I'm not against fishing for phone numbers by any means, but I've been practicing trying to land SDLs for a few months now. I'm getting there, slowly but surely, like a ladder. The vibe was good- at first neutral, then receptive, before she became highly receptive.
/r/seduction16/03/21 03:56 PM
1

Let's see if Chat works
/r/seduction11/03/21 03:04 PM
1

Looks like I can't PM you. Are you new to Reddit?
/r/seduction11/03/21 03:03 PM
1

Hmm, I'mma PM you. I sense promise in your dedication to pickup.
/r/seduction11/03/21 03:02 PM
1

Do you mostly run day or night game?
/r/seduction11/03/21 02:57 PM
1

I'd highly advise a good wing in your situation, OP. I've been gaming for nearly 9 months now. I tough it out, but having a wing who knows what they're doing and is going through the same pickup journey you are helps a ton. That, and learning how to game without motivation.
/r/seduction11/03/21 02:50 PM
1

Check out Todd V or The Natural Lifestyles
/r/seduction07/03/21 11:30 PM
1

Practice acceptance and learn to adapt otherwise you’ll have the same issues no matter where you live I'd have to disagree with this one. As a software engineer who works remotely, I live in Milwaukee and don't vibe with the culture at all. I can't explain it. The people aren't terrible - a little distant, to be honest - but I vibe super well with Chicagoans. And this is coming from a conservative dude. However, if you hate the culture of where you live at, just move elsewhere; preferably in a c…
/r/seduction07/03/21 10:37 PM
1

Whelp, I can't give you a first-hand account of Raleigh, but from what I heard, Raleigh and Charlotte are good cities in the East Coast for game/dating if you want a more traditional relationship. As a bonus, Houston is pretty similar. Lots of cute girls looking to get into a relationship/date a high-value dude.
/r/seduction07/03/21 10:31 PM
1

Don't expect people to know on this sub since 99.9% of dudes here don't approach. Also, why the hate for Chicago? It's day game heaven over there.
/r/seduction07/03/21 07:33 PM
1

Nah man, I was (still am, just much more confident) geeky as hell. Before game, I reckon I got laid three times in my life. This brings my lifetime lay count to 7.
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:08 PM
1

I went through a weird pickup journey. So, I officially began November, 2019 - February 2020. Had to stop after 3 months due to the lockdown. Within that timespan, I got 3 lays. After that, I restarted my game June, 2020 - present. Within my second iteration of game, I was able to land 1 lay. However, my game is far more structured and I'm able to see where I am in the set now. Think Neo during the final battle with Agent Smith in the OG Matrix. I know what to do and it's not all over the place …
/r/seduction05/03/21 04:02 PM
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I wouldn't call myself a beginner haha I'll be honest, this thread is a repost from 5 months ago. I've been gaming incredibly consistently for 8 months now; no breaks; 4-5 days a week. My early-mid game is good, but I need to work on my end game. Each time I go out in Chicago I easily land 1-2 instadates per day before I get socially exhausted. But I like your idea, it's the traditional PUA route. I think it'll work fosure, it's just that I'm so absolutely focused on SDLs and I've worked on it f…
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:39 PM
1

What I've been doing instead is pushing the set as far as I could. For example, let's say the girl doesn't want to bounce to a bar after getting some coffee at Starbucks. What I'd do then is take her number, sending her a pinging text, and try and have her come out at night. If that doesn't work, find out her schedule and set up plans a day or two after meeting her.
/r/seduction05/03/21 03:26 PM
3

Hi Levi, nice post. Where's my report boi! :P
/r/seduction05/03/21 02:48 PM
4

I love how Pook takes game and puts it in a fictional narrative for the reader to enjoy. Particularly when Pook talks to the newbie. Has very strong The Great Divorce vibes by C.S. Lewis
/r/seduction05/03/21 01:57 PM
5

That's exactly why I like cold approach. I'm not confined to the few girls within my social circle.
/r/seduction05/03/21 01:28 AM
1

First and foremost, waiting two days to text a girl is way too long. After a cold approach, I usually send a pinging text like "Hey [name], it was nice meeting you ;)" after 5 minutes. After that, I wait a few hours depending on her BT or text her the next day. If I were in your shoes, ping her with one more text. If that doesn't work, find another girl.
/r/seduction04/03/21 08:15 PM
3

Clearly
/r/seduction04/03/21 05:18 PM
5

You mean, like, literally every guy in the world?
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:25 PM
2

Good idea. With some of the theory I see pop up here, I can't help but be amused.
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:21 PM
0

For cold approach
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:15 PM
0

Ya gotta start somewhere my man
/r/seduction04/03/21 04:12 PM
3

That's very true. Love the response. Yeah, I feel like I'm very open with that allotted span of time. I'm a highly technical, structured PUA (learned it from Todd V), so I'm only "on" within the scheduled block.
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:52 PM
1

Hi u/AppearanceAccording6 we want to see that report on you-know-where!
/r/seduction03/03/21 08:48 PM
1

Nah, this sub is trash. I'm in a private sub for game.
/r/seduction03/03/21 05:37 PM
2

You know the answer, Grack. What did I tell you about r/seduction?
/r/seduction02/03/21 03:00 AM
1

Sure. It's easy. Start cold approaching.
/r/seduction02/03/21 01:57 AM
3

That's literally how most guys do it But this sub was initially created for guys who wanted to be good at pickup What we currently have is geared toward beginners which drives away intermediate/advanced PUAs who've spent years infield
/r/seduction24/12/20 04:03 AM
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That's how a majority of people on this sub learned game in the past Pick out a PUA instructor who suits your vibe, check out his material, practice it infield Easy as that
/r/seduction24/12/20 03:36 AM
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I work as a software engineer, I'm well above the poverty line In any other case, your advice works for guys who are trapped on social media aggregate sites like Reddit. However, for guys who are committed to game, I'd advise learning it formally by a pickup instructor
/r/seduction24/12/20 02:26 AM
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If you live on Reddit sure
/r/seduction24/12/20 02:20 AM
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I believe this could be best described as "normal guy" game
/r/seduction24/12/20 01:58 AM
2

I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the re…
/r/seduction23/12/20 08:46 PM
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It's invite only. I can put in a word if you actually approach. Fair warning though: 99.9% of the posts there revolve around infields and what you did right and wrong. Don't expect any moral busy-bodies either. We believe whatever works. A few may believe in "negs", but I think most don't.
/r/seduction23/12/20 02:42 PM
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We just have to accept r/seduction is a hive of newbies for now til forever I'm in a PUA sub for intermediate/advanced guys, but I revisit seduction in HOPES I see something new
/r/seduction23/12/20 01:59 PM
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Agreed. I'm tired of seeing "just be honest gaiz!!!!" for the 487th time
/r/seduction23/12/20 01:55 PM
12

tl;dr wake up samurai, we have a girl to seduce
/r/seduction20/12/20 11:30 PM
2

Maybe that's apart of the equation, but dating was objectively easier before dating apps / social media became popular. I recall girls being more receptive to some random guy coming up to them compared to now. I could make numerous mistakes back then, but the girl wouldn't bounce unless I reeeeeally fucked up
/r/seduction19/12/20 06:57 PM
1

They both work
/r/seduction19/12/20 05:12 PM
1

Here's some nostalgia for you :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0OXeA9M1As https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ And the mother of 'em all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDyx_dLrhc Edit: Then there's this song they played a billion times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T7_1nPQoS0
/r/seduction19/12/20 03:34 AM
3

aww how cute
/r/seduction19/12/20 03:27 AM
4

Didn't it suck when PLUR culture started dying out in 2014? Every raver felt like family during 2012-2013. It was sad watching people grow more cold and distant as time passed by
/r/seduction19/12/20 03:09 AM
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Maybe a mix of negative interactions + online dating? If anything, if I had to blame a bigger culprit, it's online dating / social media hands down. I believe Tinder and Instagram started making heaps and bounds in 2014, but before that, everything seemed a lot more simple. As an example, I was heavily into the rave scene in 2013; back then, I saw the most fob Asian dudes hook up with incredibly cute rave girls. I'm talkin' coke bottle glasses and all. The shit you'd see in WWII propaganda poste…
/r/seduction19/12/20 03:01 AM
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I don't think it's exclusively just shitty men. I think there's more to the story. Dating was easier in the 2000s - early 2010s. A big reason was the lack of validation associated with social media and online dating. Those two things were coming up in the incline, but didn't dot the dating landscape en masse yet. Hell, I remember there was a massive stigma around online dating in the late 2000s
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:39 AM
1

Okie doke, I can finally respond. So, I have good verbal game. It's how I'm able to net solid phone numbers 1-2 times a week via day game cold approach. My problem stems from the fact I learned pickup in an incredibly surgical - yet effective - manner. I obey the advice I'm given to me to a T. When it comes to text game, I've been instructed by a big chunk of pickup artists to use it exclusively to set up logistics. That strategy personally doesn't work for me. I've tried it numerous times and s…
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:29 AM
1

I've been told by a bunch of PUA veterans than Fridays and Saturdays are the worst since everyone is usually doing something those days; especially since it's after the work week
/r/seduction19/12/20 02:26 AM
1

Lol tf you sayin man xD Do you have a baby face or something
/r/seduction18/12/20 11:33 PM
2

I'm actually infield now, but I'll make a longer response when I get back I already have good verbal game lol, I should send you a link of one of my infield audio recordings
/r/seduction18/12/20 10:57 PM
1

I heard that's the best option vs texting, but I personally haven't tried that yet
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:51 PM
5

I personally still text, but she's already invested enough after the first date so you don't have to text as much
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:38 PM
5

But I whore out on those days!
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:20 PM
1

Southeast Asia, South America or Eastern Europe. Don't get me wrong, you'll still have to learn game, but you get a massive value boost as a foreigner in most of these places. I've known quite a few guys who couldn't nail it in the West, but found themselves dating women much easier in the three locations I mentioned (esp the Philippines)
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:19 PM
11

Precisely
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:15 PM
1

I was in a similar boat as you during my early 20s There is no solution unless you plan to expatriate to SEA, SA or EE... and I hope to god you're an American Be pragmatic: Play the cards you're dealt the best you can
/r/seduction18/12/20 09:12 PM
3

Do you mean two weeks from now? Ehhh, I'd keep her in the backburner man. Do some flirty text interim. Better yet, if you utilize social media to your advantage, keep her hooked that way. If I were in your shoes, I'd find another girl
/r/seduction18/12/20 08:06 PM
5

Mostly callback humor with a little flirtation cut in-between. For example, I'm texting this 19 year old girl as a 28 year old dude. She asked what age I was and I gave her my response which was: "Damn, does that mean we have to do some secret agent shit to sneak you inside bars 🤨" Something non-logical like that. Am I really going to sneak her inside a bar? Fuck no. I ain't goin' to jail for a girl - but it makes for fun, flirty banter Pro-tip: Most Redditors don't have the $$$ to do this or th…
/r/seduction18/12/20 08:04 PM
5

Oh that's not the end of it I'll ping her a day or so later; something that provides value, but also something she doesn't feel compelled to respond to After that, I rinse and repeat the Body strat and then close soon after
/r/seduction18/12/20 07:48 PM
20

Don't get me wrong, I do too. Yes Ladders are utilized for two reasons: 1.) Compliance testing 2.) Having the girl qualify I only use Yes Ladders before I ask a big request, particularly instadates if we're in person or having her agree/schedule a date if it's over text However, as an aside, if I'm in person and I want to number close, I use a qualifier. For example, "You know, I was a little iffy when you said you were a secretary. Not going to lie, I thought you were going to be a little borin…
/r/seduction18/12/20 07:09 PM
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It's most effective in person, but can work in text too. It's pretty much having the girl say 'yes' a few consecutive times in a row. For example, "Are you a fun person?", "I'm assuming you like your city?" Shit that she can easily say yes to. It makes the girl more acceptable and willing for future big requests like a date Good source on implementing the Yes Ladder: https://www.girlschase.com/content/yes-ladder-and-getting-women-say-yes
/r/seduction18/12/20 06:44 PM
2

Good post. Love it my man I've been gaming for six months now very consistently. Since college campuses are off-season and I can't cold approach on the streets due to Winter, I've been struggling to escalate or close at indoor malls.
/r/seduction15/12/20 06:00 PM
2

I'll tell you what though man, it doesn't take long to jump from absolute beginner to "high beginner" - as in, you're getting on dates with some consistently. It took me 2 1/2 months to get to that point
/r/seduction14/12/20 01:46 PM
1

I already got dates before joining it. The intention of the subreddit is to improve guys who're in the intermediate/advanced range
/r/seduction14/12/20 01:42 PM
1

Then I doubt the leader would extend an invitation
/r/seduction14/12/20 01:38 PM
1

Have you done any approaches or written any field reports?
/r/seduction14/12/20 01:28 PM
-16

Exactly. This subreddit has become a joke. Thank god I was invited to a private PUA subreddit with guys who actually practice game and don't give out generic, self help advice like this
/r/seduction14/12/20 03:34 AM
12

Good self-help advice. Pity we're on a subreddit called r/seduction
/r/seduction14/12/20 03:00 AM
1

I would know, I've used them before and gone out for a while now. I couldn't tell you how many times I've turned neutral sets to receptive ones by having the girl qualify herself to me over and over again. Also, I don't mean canned lines. I mean techniques like push-pull, qualifiers, free association, etc
/r/seduction01/12/20 01:16 PM
3

Agreed. Guys respond to different types of game. The prevailing mindset on this subreddit is moreso toward "natural game". You've heard it before, "be the best version of yourself and the girls will come", "it's all about confidence!", "Just love yourself!". Yeah, that's great advice and all, but I'm betting the average game newbie probably doesn't care much about abstract, inner game concepts that takes years to build up.
/r/seduction01/12/20 03:06 AM
1

Looks like you're going to have to take action
/r/seduction01/12/20 12:57 AM
1

Whelp, I usually approach girls with or without a mask on. When it comes to the mask, I just do the approach anyway. If they're ugly or old, I dip.
/r/seduction30/11/20 08:43 PM
1

"Complaints about how hard life is", where are you getting this from? I said I'm a single-minded person. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, "no incentive to convert you to anything". "Stop thinking like a loser," "your weak mind rejected it because it’s 'too hard'". I can see why you haven't fully left the 9-5 yet for your coaching job. Autism-level awareness, my man.
/r/seduction30/11/20 08:31 PM
1

Just curious, where do you live? I'm in Milwaukee and most places are open
/r/seduction30/11/20 08:25 PM
3

Bruh all your posts so far reeks of self-righteousness Maybe you should focus on game to learn how to properly communicate with guys you want to convert to your side
/r/seduction30/11/20 08:19 PM
1

Nah this shit works for me
/r/seduction30/11/20 07:05 PM
3

For starting off, yes. Motivation + a "just do it" mentality. I've been gaming very consistently for five months, but there are so, so many times where I just don't feel like going out. It's like going to the gym; you don't feel like going out, but you do it anyway. I discovered relying exclusively on motivation isn't a good idea in the long run.
/r/seduction30/11/20 06:50 PM
1

I'd also like to address the amount of shit flinging there is on this sub for different game styles. I swear, not only do we get beginner-level advice on this sub, but every other game style is practically shat on unless it's natural game. The idea of using push-pulls, qualifiers, or anything that stands out as a "technique" is downvoted or shot down real fast by an army of self-righteous "naturals" who exclusively focus on inner game. Anything else is "creepy", "morally wrong", and isn't accept…
/r/seduction30/11/20 06:44 PM
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I disagree with your sentiment. I've stated this before on another thread, but I'm an incredibly single-minded individual. If I focus on building a business, I exclusively focus on that. Girls aren't even a side goal. They're non-existent, because in my mind, there is only the objective. On the flip side, if I'm focused on getting girls, there is nothing else. I eat, breathe, and sleep game until I hit my goal. There is no room for "secondary objectives".
/r/seduction30/11/20 06:18 PM
5

> This, of course, does not apply to everyone, mostly beginners. Sounds like this entire sub
/r/seduction30/11/20 06:16 PM
4

Ahhh understandable my man Good work, glad to see you're making progress
/r/seduction28/11/20 08:54 PM
7

When you say dates, do you mean instadates or dates planned out via text?
/r/seduction28/11/20 08:24 PM
3

I've been gaming very consistently for five months. I exclusively do day game cold approach, but there's an easy way to avoid becoming a girl's orbiter: Be sexually polarizing. When I approach a girl on the streets, the girl knows I'm interested in her, have a dick, but I spike her emotions / have her qualify so much that she'll either hate or love me. There's no room for getting friend zoned.
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:09 PM
1

Exactly. At least Jake didn't orbit around Sherry
/r/seduction24/11/20 02:01 PM
3

I'm a bit different. When I'm focused on something I'm working on, I push aside game and dedicate myself to the task on hand. I'm aware other men state it's better to have women as an addition to a busy / exciting life, but I tend to be incredibly single-minded. For me, it's either A.) Exclusively focus on my life's goal B.) Exclusively focus on gaming women I don't really have an in-between
/r/seduction23/11/20 06:43 PM
1

Sergio, is that you?! :D
/r/seduction20/11/20 11:04 PM
4

Or you rethink your strategy and calibrate... just like video games!
/r/seduction20/11/20 11:04 PM
1

Probs San Diego, Salinas, and if you have a passport / speak Spanish, hitting up Tijuana
/r/seduction20/11/20 07:43 PM
1

Here's a little tip that I learned after practicing cold approach for five months. If you want to get a solid number, get an instadate, pull a girl home, whatever you need to qualify the living hell out of the set. Of course, the girl should be aware you're into her, but the second she knows she's in a Man-to-Woman interaction, start having her qualify. Fast. Sprinkle a few flirty lines here and there, but qualifiers are your best friend
/r/seduction20/11/20 07:14 PM
1

It's plausible, but if I were in your shoes, I'd hit up San Diego. It's the only city off the top of my head in California that resembles a normal US city outside of Cali Source: Former Arizonian, born in LA, and visited CA alot
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:59 PM
1

I didn't jump through any hoops gaming in Chicago. The primary reason I traveled there is simply due to the sheer abundance of women compared to Milwaukee. More girls -> More sets to practice on -> Overall better game Edit: I see you live in Los Angeles. I strongly suggest moving out of California. I don't say this often, but LA is one of the hardest - if not THE hardest - cities in the US to get laid.
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:54 PM
1

I tend to laser focus on things. Before I learned game, I spent a full two years teaching myself programming. After getting a job as a software engineer with NO college degree, I zoomed in on pickup. Here's a little secret: If you're serious about learning game, go practice pickup at a major metropolitan city near you. It does something to the mind. You don't know anyone there. You feel freer compared to gaming in the current city you live in. I learned much, much faster in Chicago than the city…
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:05 PM
5

I wholeheartedly agree. It took me years of missing out on opportunities, watching my best friend bang chicks who I met from raves, and being an overall pussy that led me to the PUA community. Now, my devotion to the game is absolute.
/r/seduction20/11/20 06:01 PM
1

Yep, I remember the first three or so months I'd walk a shitload of hours across downtown Chicago to get 6-8 sets in
/r/seduction20/11/20 05:58 PM
1

I'm curious, what's your height?
/r/seduction20/11/20 02:59 AM
1

Exactly. Given how lots of guys here practically live on Reddit from their day to day lives, I wouldn't be surprised if they just settle for whatever comes their way. That, or as it says in The Book of Pook, they'll suffer so much anguish being lonely and sexless, they'll have no choice but to act.
/r/seduction20/11/20 02:58 AM
1

Yo former Denverite here. I miss Beta Nightclub lol Anyway, Milwaukee has a metro pop of 1.5 million. Not as big as Denver, but it's getting close. I notice a more social circle oriented vibe here compared to the Southwest where I'm from. Girls are from the 6-7 range, with a few sprinkles of 8s. Overall, I'd say it's a decent city to game in, but it's far from optimal. Compare this to Chicago where you continuously have an air of anonymity. The girls are far more receptive, complete that with th…
/r/seduction20/11/20 02:40 AM
1

Yo man, 1984 is from the book, but I'm 28. Yes, it's primarily directed at younger dudes. I believe with time, particularly when guys hit 30 and up, do we begin to realize girls and sex aren't really a big deal.
/r/seduction20/11/20 02:34 AM
2

I'd highly recommend cold approach
/r/seduction20/11/20 02:31 AM
4

As it should, friend. I feel the most compassion for men who've gone through mental / emotional torment and seek to learn the game. It would be best if guys didn't have to go through what I (and presumably you) have, but I'm afraid most people have to learn the hard way
/r/seduction20/11/20 01:18 AM
2

No problem. May the Game give you all that you seek
/r/seduction20/11/20 01:14 AM
2

Friend, the PUA community is massive. There are different game styles, beliefs, etc. I can't encompass the entire community, but I can give you a starting point. I've made a list of game styles that have existed throughout the decades. If you wish, decide which style best suites your personality and continue your research from there. Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jiqk3c/hegemons_list_of_game_styles/
/r/seduction20/11/20 12:59 AM
2

By "record the date", I mean at a Starbucks or something. Kinda weird if I recorded them at home
/r/seduction19/11/20 07:58 PM
1

You know what, I make a post devoted to this
/r/seduction19/11/20 07:32 PM
3

I'm enslaved to Dead by Daylight. Got 2k hours on that mofo
/r/seduction19/11/20 07:31 PM
1

Here's a good one: "Man, I came out tonight to talk to girls... but you know what... I don't feel like it anymore. It's just gunna be a boy's night out."
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:45 PM
-15

Only to you boo 😘
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:30 PM
7

It's funny you mention that. Do you know what makes people serious about gaming? It's not the desire to get a girlfriend. No, that may prompt you to research game, but not enough to take action. The answer is pain and suffering. The fact so, so many opportunities passed you by. Your best friend fucks a girl you're interested in 20 minutes after meeting her. Shit like that
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:24 PM
-19

Like I said, less competition for me and my friends Thanks for checking out of the game bro 👍
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:18 PM
11

Nah man you got self respect No one should be okay with that shit
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:12 PM
4

Yep, the people who truly wish to change themselves research shit on Google religiously. That's how I started learning about the PUA community It was a little obsessive. I read up on game theory, techniques, inner/outer game strategies, anything I can get my hands on ... Without consulting or asking anyone for advice
/r/seduction19/11/20 05:09 PM
3

Amen. I personally refuse to touch dating apps, but an Asian buddy of mine is a god at it. Gets dates virtually every day, but I digress. You're right, women don't care about the Coronavirus. As long as you present yourself in a high value manner and have good game, they'll run across town for you
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:24 PM
1

See, that's a good reason to not game. I'm betting a majority of redditors here don't have this issue, though
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:11 PM
-13

You're right, on the surface it sounds like a good excuse. But unless these guys live in a bubble (actually, cancel that, I'm sure a vast majority of guys here play video games and never leave their rooms), there's absolutely no reason to take proper precautions and talk to women. None. At the end, it doesn't matter. Just means less competition for me and my friends who honestly don't give a flying fuck about this pandemic and take the necessary precautions when gaming
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:10 PM
-4

Same tbh It's an easy ass fix But the dudes here treat it like every girl they want to approach magically has the bubonic plague
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:00 PM
45

Sounds like this entire subreddit lol 95% of the dudes here never take action due to one excuse or another. Whether it be race, height, "b-but there's a pandemic!", an unwillingness to confront their inner demons, etc Just laugh at they face and continue racking up notches or keep learning the game
/r/seduction19/11/20 03:37 PM
-2

Of course, all good pickup artists do that. How else can you expect the pros to point out what you did right or wrong?
/r/seduction19/11/20 01:37 PM
1

Thanks. Sent.
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:16 AM
-4

Got it. Meeting this Latina Hipster chick on Friday from cold approach. I qualified the living hell out of her. That, accompanied by projecting sexual intent I learned from James Marshall really made that specific set skyrocket. Like you, I record my sets. I'm not sure if you'd have the time, but do you mind listening to it and giving me brief feedback if you can? I'd be eternally grateful.
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:09 AM
8

Kissing a girl lowers the chances of see her again? Interesting. I've been gaming for five months very consistently. I'm able to get instadates / 1st, 2nd dates relatively often, but I don't kiss. It's been my objective at the end of every date to kiss the girl. Any suggestions on how far to escalate on the 1st - 2nd date?
/r/seduction19/11/20 04:01 AM
11

The only thing I hate about day game is the sheer amount of walking you have to do. I literally lost 10 pounds over the span of 5 months exclusively due to day game lol
/r/seduction19/11/20 12:26 AM
2

I heard your day game is rough, but Finnish night game... ho boy... they have the award for biggest sloots of Europe. Lots of international PUAs say the best countries are Finland, Poland and Lithuania
/r/seduction19/11/20 12:24 AM
1

I believe they call that "indirect direct" in PUA terminology
/r/seduction19/11/20 12:21 AM
2

I have a version of that I use infield "Oh my God, even with that mask on that smile is too adorable." Usually I say it when I notice the girl smile upon my opener
/r/seduction19/11/20 12:20 AM
22

I personally open direct. It's usually, "Excuse me, that's the cutest fucking look I've seen all day and I had to say hi," that's it. I recently learned factual conversations actually kill the set. Even if you have push-pulls, qualifiers, etc. It doesn't matter. What does matter? Spiking her emotions + qualifying. Alot. tl;dr be polarizing
/r/seduction18/11/20 08:48 PM
-5

It's really not a big deal. If you see a girl with a mask, slip your mask on. If you see a girl without a mask, keep the mask strapped to your chin. That's the full extent of "navigating around the whole mask"
/r/seduction18/11/20 08:44 PM
3

Good work! I strongly agree, I've been cold approaching for five months. I got to where you're at at the 3 month mark, so congratulations my man
/r/seduction18/11/20 08:33 PM
4

It's a very abstract concept compared to techniques. Hell, I'd say it's a little woo-woo So, let's say you see a chick on the streets. You approach her with the intent of "I want to fuck her so bad". With this mindset, your vocal tonality changes, as well as how you carry itself Compare this to techniques (ie. push-pulls, qualifiers) where you go out to practice something specific (ie. I want to practice push-pulls today, so I'll say shit like, "That's the cutest fucking look you gave me, but yo…
/r/seduction15/11/20 05:20 AM
2

Not much tbh Less women outdoors, that's true. But they're still open to getting approached. The only extra step now is to determine or not to wear a mask with the girl you see across the street
/r/seduction15/11/20 12:54 AM
7

Guy here, but I'll answer your question. Yes, they very much do. I'll give an example: I've been cold approaching very consistently for five months now. Before I "projected sexual intent" in my sets, I ran a very structured game and was getting pretty good. However, all I managed to do was have very fun, interesting conversations. Yes, the girl knew I was into her, but I didn't give off this sexual energy like I do now. What did I get? Lots of dates, but no sex. I recently started learning how t…
/r/seduction15/11/20 12:50 AM
3

I'd dispute that. As someone who approaches very often and very consistently, this sub only provides beginner level advice
/r/seduction14/11/20 10:55 PM
3

That's probably an accurate assessment
/r/seduction14/11/20 03:31 PM
23

Here's an even better solution: Play your weaknesses to your advantage. Be playful with it. For example, I got a tooth extracted nearly two weeks ago. It wasn't in the back row of teeth, nor was it in front. If I smile big enough, you could see a chasm where my tooth once was. While a girl hasn't noticed it yet, if one DID however, I'd agree and exaggerate the situation. Ie. "Oh yeah, I'm cosplaying as a country boy. Doesn't it look sexy? Just fucking with you. I got a tooth pulled about a week …
/r/seduction14/11/20 05:38 AM
3

I strongly disagree with your point learning pickup doesn't fundamentally change who you are. It's funny. Everyone who hears about the PUA community just focuses on the techniques themselves. Meanwhile, many PUAs - Todd V included - focus on how you view yourself as a person. To stand up for yourself and what you believe in. I'll give an example: Before I discovered the pickup community, I was incredibly introverted, didn't stand up for myself, and was overall pushed around by my co-workers. Onc…
/r/seduction10/11/20 06:21 PM
2

This is going to sound racist, but whatever. So, I believe every race has a tendency to be good at one thing vs lack at others. Asian men - including half-Asians / half-Whites like myself - generally have the lowest amount of available testosterone from puberty. Why is it? I don't know. It's one of God's mysteries. In return, Asians tend to be high IQ, great at academic sciences, but consequently, timid and/or low self-esteem. This displays itself in the dating market: Women aren't exclusively i…
/r/seduction10/11/20 02:43 PM
1

I do approximately 16-25 approaches per week consistently. I go out and do day game five days a week (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday) with 4 sets during the weekday and 6 during the weekends. I'm a very structured person and practice game religiously. In regards toward your second question: Yes, I work as a self-taught software engineer. It took me two years to learn everything myself, but when I got the job my entire focus shifted on game
/r/seduction10/11/20 08:01 AM
1

I keep hearing about him. Kinda want to check him out
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:53 AM
1

Anything that's Man-to-Woman (ie. "You look cute", "That outfit is way too adorable", etc)
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:37 AM
4

Whelp, as Mark Manson states, "You won't be absolutely sexy to some girls if you're not creepy to others." I've met girls who absolutely loved me and other girls who thought I was creepy 'cuz I approached them on the streets. It's no big deal. Really, it isn't. All I do is look back at my set, try and figure out if I fumbled, before moving onto the next
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:29 AM
1

Yep, if she isn't responding, continue displaying high value behavior + have her qualify a bit. That generally does the trick. As a bonus, throw in a few premise lines to remind her the convo is Man-to-Woman
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:13 AM
1

No, they don't count toward my notches. Btw, love how you're bringing in old school PUAs on this subreddit. It's nice hearing where our roots come from
/r/seduction10/11/20 01:05 AM
1

I see you're a fan of natural game. I'm not a fan of it myself, but to each their own. I'll say this: The techniques that I utilized worked pretty damn good in a night game venue vs a decent amount of times during the day. At first, like any skill, using techniques felt awkward and bumbly. I knew this, accepted this, and after a while (generally a month of constant practice), it engrained itself into my personality. Push-pulls, qualifiers, etc came off as second nature. PS: I love how all these …
/r/seduction10/11/20 12:59 AM
1

Your name is u/pua_max, there's a popular pickup artist named RSD Max and his intro on all his videos is "Was geht ab!"
/r/seduction10/11/20 12:53 AM
4

Its from the book 1984
/r/seduction09/11/20 10:30 PM
2

No probs man we all got our tastes I do the approach even with the mask, but if I see they're old or ain't as hot, I dip
/r/seduction09/11/20 10:17 PM
3

My man giving me that hope Appreciate this
/r/seduction09/11/20 10:05 PM
6

Yes, there's less girls out, but still very workable. However, the only difference socially is you're going to have to calibrate whether or not to wear a mask by checking out if your girl has a mask or not. I always have my mask strapped to my chin just incase
/r/seduction09/11/20 09:52 PM
2

Ye p much
/r/seduction09/11/20 09:29 PM
8

I've outschooled dudes during night game who were significantly more jacked than me. Muscles are nice to have, but they're certainly not the end all be all
/r/seduction09/11/20 09:22 PM
3

Milwaukee and Chicago
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:42 PM
6

Right now, the streets. I've done it so much I can pinpoint the exact days, times and locations where girls congregate
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:20 PM
7

Yeah man, I'm mainly a technique based PUA. I've done them so consistently that push-pulls, qualifiers, etc is engrained in my personality. I think once I establish a sexual demeanor in set, I should be good. Tbh, this is the first time I'm practicing anything mindset / demeanor based
/r/seduction09/11/20 08:11 PM
10

While I wouldn't advise it now, you know, being married and all, it's a good demeanor to have!
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:55 PM
11

Here's a little start guide I created. It's a list of game styles that have existed throughout the decades in the pickup community. Feel free to puruse around and decide which suits you best: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jiqk3c/hegemons_list_of_game_styles/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:49 PM
3

Hey man, looks like we're on the same boat On an unrelated note: Was geht ab is that you?! :p Props if you get the reference
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:35 PM
13

In that case, I strongly recommend learning game theory, experimenting with it a bit, before you inevitably find the right type of game that suits you as a person
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:18 PM
10

^ this guy doesn't approach
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:16 PM
22

A few guys here are PMing me. The first thing you need to do is start cold approaching
/r/seduction09/11/20 07:16 PM
54

I try my man
/r/seduction09/11/20 06:55 PM
2

Learn the game. The top posts here are nothing more than, "be the top guy bro!" or "just be an athlete lol", while those paths may be helpful, they're not the greatest. As pickup artists - you ARE on a subreddit called r/seduction after all - I'd advise treating college campus like a mixture of cold approach and social circle game. Here's a trick: Most guys in their college years, no matter if they're the lowliest geek to the top-tier social guys, don't have great verbal game. They use their sta…
/r/seduction08/11/20 01:21 PM
1

I followed your plan, but here's the thing: I'm extremely self-motivated. Most guys aren't. I practiced day game in Arizona before setting up any career for myself, still got lots of dates - mainly because I ran "red-pill" style game and am an unethical bastard who gamed his patients - but I still didn't advance my career. So I spent two years teaching myself how to program virtually every day, got a job as a software engineer, and now I devote myself to the game.
/r/seduction07/11/20 02:07 PM
1

Probs had shit game tbh That, or you can't take a compliment
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:38 PM
1

I can date both. In a matter of fact, next week I'm going on a date with this 30 y/o hotel manager I met in Chicago via day game. Then again, I've dated a ton of girls within the 18-22 range. The age doesn't matter, but rather, if they're into your vibe, personality, etc. They can be 18 all the way to 30. I personally don't go past that unless I just wanna bang 'em with no strings attached
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:36 PM
1

nah
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:32 PM
2

You're Asian. We don't age.
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:30 PM
1

If they consent and are legal, we gucci "My body, my choice" "Her body, her choice"
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:25 PM
1

Probs not, but sexual consent has been 18 in the US since as long as I can remember No matter, this argument will go nowhere So imma enjoy dating 18-22 y/o girls as a 28 y/o dude
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:23 PM
1

I'll give you something to think on: My body, my choice. You have no right telling someone who can date who
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:21 PM
-1

That comparison is retarded af One is literally enslaving another human, the other is dating within an extended age gap And judging by the onslaught of downvotes, everyone here strongly disagrees with you too
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:18 PM
1

One is legal, one is not. I'll give you this though: My Dad tried to persuade her NOT to date him due to the age difference. It made her chase harder. At the end, they broke up since he's a fundamentalist Christian and if she REALLY wanted to marry him, she'd have to drop lots of things
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:13 PM
-1

Uh no. Fuck no. Fun fact: My Dad, who was 40 years old, was engaged to a 19 year old Latina. She chased him like crazy Ironically, I had a crush on her. It was hilarious - yet weird - seeing her with my Dad
/r/seduction04/11/20 09:10 PM
1

Then that's the prime culprit. You go into sets without thinking and just approach as many girls as you can. You don't have social anxiety, but you're socially disconnected
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:35 PM
1

How were your approaches? If you as a person write short, fast responses, I'm going to assume that reflects how you are as a person. Did you "shotgun" approach (ie. Approached dozens of women without thinking how you're going to make the set stick, going without a game plan, etc)?
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:31 PM
1

That's a vague response. I need objective facts. I'll give you an example: When I game, I go out five times a week. Every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. I exclusively practice day game with the objective of hitting 4 sets each time I go out. An exception is on Saturday and Sunday since I drive to Chicago where I'm free to approach 6-8 women each time I'm there.
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:24 PM
1

I can give you a few tips, but the biggest issue is how devoted are you to the game? You state that you "practiced game for years". What does that entail? How often did you go out? How many times did you approach?
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:09 PM
1

Well, I'm a 5'6'', 28 year old Asian guy with an average physique. I don't work out and primarily focus on verbal game / day game to seduce women. I've been gaming consistently since November, 2019 - February, 2020. Took a (forced) three month hiatus due to the lockdown. Started back up June, 2020 - present. So far, I've gotten 4 notches, 9 makeouts, and a ton of instadates. I'm currently at the point in my game where I'm able to hook + instadate girls, get a solid number, but I'm learning physi…
/r/seduction02/11/20 09:03 PM
1

Work. Lots of hard work. The process of becoming terrible with women -> decent -> good is a long (and painful) journey within itself. No amount of inspiration or motivation will push you in the long run. There were many times I've gone out and day gamed even when I didn't want to. It's a grind, my friend, and will take months to start seeing results. This may be unpopular, but I personally believe a man is truly ready for success when he's gone through enough suffering in his life (with anything…
/r/seduction02/11/20 08:55 PM
-14

I know this is good advice, but... another fundamental r/seduction post? You could google this and find this exact advice in 10 seconds or less
/r/seduction28/10/20 02:31 PM
2

Holy toledo, I admire your dedication, but 2 1/2 years seems like an awfully long time. How often did you game?
/r/seduction24/10/20 02:25 PM
2

The sad part is lots of dudes quit way too early or think they'll get results fast. I posted this because I really want guys to succeed, but they need to know they'll go through a "beginner's hell" of sorts before they start seeing results. Even then, it's subtle results (ie. Maybe a girl stays in set an extra minute longer, she laughs a bit more, etc). And it builds up from there
/r/seduction24/10/20 12:55 AM
3

Look at the picture. It's about encouraging dudes not to quit. Why? Because lots of other PUAs I've met quit way too early or expect fast gains. My post references a more accurate picture how long it really is to start seeing noticeable gains
/r/seduction24/10/20 12:07 AM
2

Yep, I agree. Learning game isn't easy by any stretch of the imagination. I started November, 2019 - February, 2020. Took a (forced) 3 month hiatus due to the lockdown. Before starting back in June, 2020 - present. It felt like starting all over again. I'm at the point of getting consistent solid phone numbers and instadates. Remember, once you commit to the game, you're in it for the long haul
/r/seduction23/10/20 09:01 PM
1

Muscles alone. When you gain muscles, your face and body tend to change structure. Hair falls under style.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 04:31 PM
1

Interestingly enough, money is the lowest on the totem pole of attractiveness. If I had to rank the most important to least important concepts in terms of attractiveness, it'd be: 1. Game 2. Status 3. Muscles 4. Style 5. Money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 04:14 PM
1

Actually, you're not too far off. I've seen lots of dudes who were overweight or ugly land girls you wouldn't believe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 04:10 PM
1

This is true. However, the #1 most important thing is game
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 03:58 PM
1

Agreed. She's currently my backburner chick to practice my text game while I approach other women. I'm pretty low investment atm, but hey who knows what'll happen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:06 PM
1

I'll be honest: The only reason why I'm persisting is due to boredom. She'll be known as my "backburner chick" while I work on other girls
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:04 PM
0

Oh how I wish you were right in all texting scenarios Currently texting this 18 y/o chick I met from cold approach. She's receptive, but every time I try and schedule a meet-up, she deflects it... We were supposed to meet last Friday, but due to the fact I run mainly value based game, she wanted to know me more via text. She's highly introverted, nerdy, but cute. She's suggesting we meet on Friday at an arcade, but we'll see as the week progresses on Edit: Oh yeah and insecure af
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:22 PM
4

Yep, it does. Over time, I came to appreciate women and grew interested in their life. Makes for great sets
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:32 PM
2

I can guarantee that's not the case. Unless you're calling me Chad ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:19 PM
1

Then that's your choice. I'll tell you what though, I've met women with your exact mindset who I managed to instadate (ie. date that exact same day instead of simply fishing for a phone number). You never know! The right guy comes in when ya least expect it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:02 PM
2

I used to feel the same way. You do have options though. I believe Roosh V details that it's possible to expatriate abroad and create a family that way. The thing is: You'd have to raise your family in your spouse's home country instead of the Anglosphere. How do I feel about that now? Eh, not much, really. Was a big fan of Roosh - hell, because of him I discovered the pickup community - but I discovered more positive, pragmatic pickup artists like Todd V which tend to have a much healthier view…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:00 PM
1

Then that is your choice, friend. However, most MGTOWS claim to "go their own way" to do something productive in their lives (ie. create a business, work their way up the corporate ladder, etc). When reality kicks in, they don't approach women simply due to anxiety, an unwillingness to confront their inner demons, believing overblown "truths" that rarely occur in real life (ie. sexual assault charges), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:51 PM
1

I'm grateful for discovering the pickup community. Without it, I'd be an AFC totally clueless on how to attract and keep women. Very life changing if you decide to take the hard path and practice pickup consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:45 PM
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I know. Big sad ):
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:22 AM
5

Taking a girl out to a date the exact day you meet her instead of simply getting a phone number
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:21 AM
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Probably because it's you. It's not your style. I've dated and slept with women off the street. People are different. It's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:11 AM
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If it's a good pickup artist, you probably won't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:04 AM
1

Agreed, if you're a beginner. I couldn't tell you how many times I switched neutral sets to positive ones.
/r/seduction29/09/20 12:53 PM
1

Yep, had moderate AA and I got an assload of rejections. I cared about it for a little bit, but eventually I became numb and/or analyzed my sets to see how I fucked up
/r/seduction27/09/20 03:03 PM
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Good. Time to make a schedule friend.
/r/seduction26/09/20 12:48 PM
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You know, I really hate the generic "It's a numbers game", more than any other dating advice out there. Every set should feel unique. Unless you're an absolute newbie, it shouldn't be a "numbers game". Stating that you're going out to shotgun approach girls gives the impression you're mindlessly gaming women without reflecting back on your sticking points vs what you did right in the interaction. What also irks me is only going for receptive women. Yeah, don't get me wrong, it's fucking awesome …
/r/seduction26/09/20 12:43 PM
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This is why I personally don't listen to women's dating advice unless it's generic or obvious. For example, u/thebadsleepwell00 states you should engage a girl's friends if you approach a group. Yeah, fucking duh. It's going to be awkward af if you don't. PS: I know a few guys who treat women poorly... and with respect. They do well with women in their own ways.
/r/seduction26/09/20 12:26 PM
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Yes it does work like that. I couldn't tell you how many times I've hooked girls who were straight-up neutral -> positive within the span of a few minutes. Displaying your personality in a high-value manner, while simultaneously using game in bits and pieces as 'spice' in the interaction.
/r/seduction26/09/20 12:16 PM
1

Get saltier
/r/seduction25/09/20 10:33 PM
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There's a reason why I approach isolated sets compared to 2-sets or more. It really is too much work and I'd prefer focusing on a single target vs juggling two girls at once. I'd imagine the deeper I go into game, I'll be able to handle it, but certainly not now.
/r/seduction25/09/20 08:49 PM
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When I gamed (pre-envy), I used to half-step everything I did. At that point, my game was decent, but I wasn't compelling enough. The biggest change once envy kicked in is the fact I took greater risks, played to win during an interaction, and utilized rage to drive myself as far as I could with my target. EDIT: A big factor on improving your game quickly is how devoted you are. My buddy and I practice day game 4-5 times a week with 4 sets per day. Except on Saturday where we knock out 6-7 sets.…
/r/seduction24/09/20 12:35 PM
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I'm in... sort of an agreement with the envy part. I used to be envious of my wing 'cuz he pulled so many instadates and I didn't get a single one. However, I utilized my envy to push and improve myself at a much faster rate compared to going out alone. Now I get more instadates than he does. Envy can be a useful tool.
/r/seduction24/09/20 01:09 AM
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Holy shit, I agree. All my successes didn't come from street, mall or park game. It was college campus day game... And I'm a 28 year old guy who doesn't attend college lol
/r/seduction23/08/20 09:35 PM
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Don't worry, I got another one on the way
/r/seduction23/08/20 05:18 AM
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This sounds like a pretty deep topic. I'd strongly recommend creating a post for that.
/r/seduction23/08/20 04:56 AM
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Exactly. Especially in Chicago where you encounter "rival PUAs" who aren't apart of your unit. My buddy and I day game at Millennium Park near the Cloud Gate monument. A few of our approaches kinda go like this: "1-set spotted." "Alright, this is your type bro. Go for it." And "Shit, 2-set. Angle's fucked. Let's take a detour so we can approach from the front." "Is that a three set? Hm. Mixed set. Guy looks like an orbiter. Open the orbiter first." And then of of course, if we catch other dudes …
/r/seduction22/08/20 09:53 PM
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Amen. I do day game cold approach exclusively and while I'm still relatively new at this, it feels far better than being some AFC trying his hand at online dating.
/r/seduction06/02/20 03:07 PM
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You know, I think this whole #metoo fiasco is blown way out of proportion. I run my sets at college campuses, malls, and aggressively sexually escalate at nightclubs if the opportunity arises. I've never had a sexual harassment complaint filed against me. Nor has anything negative occurred except for some snappy chick just flat-out ignoring me or blowing me out when I do an approach.
/r/seduction19/12/19 02:38 AM
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Height doesn't seem to matter during night game. The two notches I secured at night were both taller than me. White and relatively attractive. During my night game sets, I was more sexually aggressive and the women seemed to respond well to that. With both sets, I pulled from meet-up to bed within 3-4 hours. During my day game sets, I use the "natural" game I ran in Arizona and it isn't getting me far in Wisconsin. Hence why I ask the correct game to use over here.
/r/seduction11/12/19 12:06 AM
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Ayyy it's my boy John Sonmez
/r/seduction16/10/19 11:28 PM
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Yeah man, she's the first girl ever where she offered to give me HER number. We're going on a date tomorrow and we'll be alone. I'm going to make her MY girl.
/r/seduction13/07/19 04:46 AM
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Beta orbiters, now is your time to shine!
/r/MGTOW09/04/19 02:35 AM
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Well, I go for attraction the first instant I meet her and then I go for comfort. My opener is generally "Excuse me, I know this is kinda weird but I thought you were cute and I had to say hi." This makes it so she has no doubt in her mind I'm going after her because I'm attracted to her. After that, we talk about our interests, passions, etc. It's actually quite boring if you observed it from a distance. I was told by RSD Max the biggest thing I should focus on is attraction (but not very much)…
/r/seduction24/02/19 09:59 PM
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Hey man, Still doing direct day game, however, I'm getting a ton of numbers and the girls do respond... but after a while they stop responding which sucks. Got any tips to overcome this?
/r/seduction24/02/19 09:46 PM
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Yeah, but the girl I did get a number from, I felt the interaction was pretty crapola. Yesterday, I did three sets and I felt like I had a damned good day. I met this girl who was incredibly invested in the conversation, asked me personal questions, etc.
/r/seduction18/02/19 03:52 AM
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Huh, I noticed that about myself. When I force myself to cold approach, I become more outgoing, but I can certainly sense that I'm being a "try hard". I'm sure the girl notices this, too. I'm currently undergoing the "fake it until you make it" mindset which I hear helps ALOT. Just envision yourself as an alpha and your mind will mimic how an alpha acts, talks, and carries himself. If you're cold approaching as a direct game alpha dude, how would you do it?
/r/askTRP12/02/19 12:44 AM
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^ the guy that inspired me to have this mindset.
/r/seduction11/02/19 11:31 PM
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What do you think of the 'fake it until you make it's mindset?
/r/seduction11/02/19 09:36 PM
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That's where I am right now. I'm becoming far more comfortable with approaching and now I'm developing two strategies: The first, the whole "fake it until you make it" mindset. For example, I ask myself 'What would an alpha version of myself do in this situation?' The second is correct intentions. When I first started out, I focused purely on numbers (ie. meet 5 girls a day) but the quality of my interactions felt subpar. This time, I'm going to ditch the numbers and focus on getting laid.
/r/seduction11/02/19 09:31 PM
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I let my intentions known the moment I meet them. I look them in the eyes and say "Hey, I know this is kinda weird but I saw you from across the hall/room/whatever and I thought you were cute and I had to say hi."
/r/seduction11/02/19 03:10 PM
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I tried it in the past and it worked (as in, better interactions), but then I took a long hiatus from game due to pursuing a career. Once I returned to game, I started thinking numbers.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:50 AM
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The numbers game intention or the "I want to get laid" intention?
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:30 AM
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Mmm, depends on the situation. I primarily day game at a community college. If it's during the day and students are walking around to and fro, probably an insta-date. If it's during the night or late afternoon and people are going home, probably a number.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:23 AM
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It changes my inner game and consequently, my outward actions toward women. If I tell my mind I'm out to get laid, I'll portray myself as a man worthy to get laid instead of fumbling through the conversation.
/r/seduction11/02/19 05:19 AM
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Each girl taught me something and each teaching fit accordingly to where I was at the time. In hindsight, each girl taught me something valuable that helped me progress. Like how to correctly approach or escalate? That's the thing for me. I learn a few things (ie. don't prod so deeply into someone's history, do ask 'why?' they do the things they do, etc), but sometimes, I forget what I learned and make the same mistake a few days later.
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:41 PM
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Thanks. You've made a big help to changing my mindset, Josan. I'm going day gaming tomorrow, but yeah, it really is all about intentions. Not some arbitrary number.
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:05 PM
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Alright. Yeah, I currently keep count of how many women I approach per day (3-5, 5 days a week) so I can calculate my success to failure ratio. But you're right. I think I'm developing a "how many girls can I approach a day" mindset instead of focusing on actually fucking girls. Just curious, what type of game do you do? Direct or indirect?
/r/seduction09/02/19 10:58 PM
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Btw when it comes to escalation at the date should I do mild, moderate or heavy Kino?
/r/seduction08/02/19 09:47 PM
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UPDATE: What do you know... I just got a text from the hipster Latina and she sent me this: "Saturday I believe I can only go out early not late afternoon as I have an event to attend." It looks like I can play this to my favor and send that text you told me to.
/r/seduction08/02/19 08:31 PM
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I had all of those things. Literally all of them. Just toss in a strict religious upbringing and you're me.
/r/seduction08/02/19 02:11 PM
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By "vibe with" I mean I could feel an emotional connection blooming between her and I, it wasn't strong, but it was happening. By "exude attraction" I mean my inner game wasn't too strongly focused on sexual intent and I felt like I was missing... something from the interaction. I don't know what. I spoke freely with her and when I put my hand behind her back, she didn't move toward or from me. She felt very neutral toward my touch. My text game is virtually non-existent. I only use text for log…
/r/seduction08/02/19 06:10 AM
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It really depends on how I feel or the girl I meet. Yesterday, I met an amazing hipster Latina girl who I felt like I vibed with, but I didn't exude enough attraction so we texted back and forth a bit, she followed me on Instagram... and she flaked. Even if I'm not "in state", I still approach. It takes me a good 2-3 approaches and some inner reflection for me to become "in state", but I'd say I'm improving my calibration.
/r/seduction08/02/19 05:48 AM
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That's true, but I'm trying to accelerate my learning curve. I've read about guys here who attained game in two months by reading Models alone. I want to be like that. Therefore, I'm trying my best to get any useful information I can implement in-field and break through any boundaries I'm currently at.
/r/seduction08/02/19 05:37 AM
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Hahaha, love the meme, but here's the thing: Every interaction I do is meaningful. I speak to a woman, try my hardest to learn about her, and mentally note any mistakes or successes I made during the interaction.
/r/seduction08/02/19 05:32 AM
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Alright. Liam Mcrae from TNL talks alot about Kino. This Saturday when I day game, I'll focus alot more on touching. As a person, I find our conversations rather boring, but I have learned some Kino by holding a girl's hand for a while when she introduces herself and I introduce myself then I let go. That's the only Kino I've done so far.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:58 AM
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I need to remember this. On Saturday I'm going to try a whole new approach to game. I'll have to go into deep research on Friday.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:54 AM
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So pretty much a normal conversation with well-timed touching involved? I really need to re-think how I approach the seduction process. I currently have Friday and Monday off for approaching, I'll need to re-evaluate my escalation and comfort game. So far, I don't really physically escalate. I talk about mundane things, but if I really spark with a girl, we share music, talk about sorta-kinda similar interests we have, etc.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:51 AM
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Alright. I know this is going to sound a bit weird, but I'll need a blueprint on how to do this. When you do text game, what would an example conversation look like?
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:46 AM
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I refuse to do online game. I only do direct cold approaches.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:45 AM
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Shit, it probably explains why my approach count has gone down. I used to do 5 day game approaches after work, but now due to trying to form a relationship in a 15-20 minute timespan, it's gone down to 3 per day.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:44 AM
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Damn, just straight up? I got this number tonight and I haven't text her at all. So... just post that?
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:37 AM
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Well yeah, in person after I'm about to leave (I try and spend no more than 15-20 minutes with a girl) I ask for their phone number. Alternatively, and as of recently, I state "You know, I like how you're really passionate about [topic we talked about here]. I'd like to see you again. What's your number?"
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:37 AM
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So literally just: "This Friday 8PM at the Mall" or alternatively "I'm going to the Mall this Friday at 8PM. Let's go." Is that what you're aiming for?
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:31 AM
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So, in accordance with how r/seddit approaches text game, how would I reword the following text I posted above?
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:27 AM
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More like after the first two texts. I believe I've seen you in my other thread about text game. A majority of the time, I don't do text game, but mostly use it for logistics. Usually, my texts look kinda like this, "Hey, are you available Friday afternoon?" Usually they respond no or give a BS reason why they're not available and don't text back. I feel like I'm not forming enough attraction in person. In general, I do 1-4 texts, leaning toward the 1-2 range.
/r/seduction08/02/19 04:20 AM
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Audible
/r/seduction07/02/19 01:49 PM
1

Well James has the 'Jedi wave', so close enough.
/r/seduction07/02/19 04:07 AM
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Oh dude, just listen to him say 'Really?'. It sticks and makes you ask yourself, "Are you really that needy? Come on now, there's an abundance of girls out there."
/r/seduction07/02/19 03:53 AM
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So, just text her as if I was talking to her in person? Apologies, like I said, I'm a brand new dude when it comes to text game. I mainly do direct cold approaches during the day.
/r/seduction07/02/19 03:49 AM
1

PUA Episode III: "Revenge of the Indirect Gamers".
/r/seduction07/02/19 03:43 AM
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Every time I get needy for a girl to text me back I hear Austin Rising's (the guy who did the narration for Models) voice say, "Really?"
/r/seduction07/02/19 03:40 AM
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Oh man, i don't know. I'm really having trouble seeing if I should pursue or not
/r/seduction04/02/19 04:00 AM
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UPDATE: She is texting me on Snapchat like crazy. Damn, I wish I tapped into this power up earlier.
/r/seduction04/02/19 12:41 AM
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I discovered how to do proper day game with a 9-to-5 job. I generally go out to my local community college for two hours after work. Generally from 6:15pm-8pm with a goal of 5 approaches. I do this 5 days out of the week. I then head back to my house which is less than 5 minutes away and reflect on my game. So far, I've gotten 3 numbers out of 20 approaches during day game. I feel day game is far more natural for meeting women. Night game is WWII all over again. No wonder they call it the "night…
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:37 AM
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Oh boy, it's funny you mentioned day game at night. I just got blown outta the water at my local nightclub by straight-up doing direct game (I use it as my primary technique at day game). The rejections weren't harsh, but it appeared every girl I talked to at the club found me dreadfully boring. One girl even brushed me off before twerking on her friend's ass.
/r/seduction03/02/19 08:27 AM
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Oh dude, I sent "Hey [her name], it's [my name], the Asian dude you met tonight. It was nice meeting you." She responded almost immediately with "Heyy"
/r/seduction01/02/19 06:25 AM
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Yeah me either. I'm honestly not big on online game, which includes apps or text. Soooo... I'm stuck in a rut. I want to message her on Snapchat before I go to sleep though.
/r/seduction01/02/19 06:04 AM
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Haha no thank you, my man. Btw, do you have any suggestions for Snapchat game? I'm trying to think of what to say to this girl. My mind is blank.
/r/seduction01/02/19 06:02 AM
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Thanks to u/alec5280 for the "I'm thinking about attending a class" thing. It worked, brother.
/r/seduction01/02/19 04:24 AM
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I'm watching a YouTube video on rapid escalation. It's good shit. I have to try it out.
/r/seduction31/01/19 05:49 PM
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I'll be sure to check them up. If you're familiar with Sasha Daygame, I find his approach similar to Models, except more pragmatic. Do you know any books which teach anything similar?
/r/seduction31/01/19 05:16 AM
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I have three areas in my list: An outdoor mall, the community college, and downtown. I currently live in Yuma, AZ and that's literally all i can think of atm
/r/seduction30/01/19 11:15 PM
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You know, I actually haven't. I feel like it'd be too long meeting and attracting a woman within the span of an hour.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:53 PM
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Alright, would four days per week be good enough? I know a buddy of mine who runs game 5-6 days a week and after a few months he started becoming successful. It's just that every man has to put his time in. I'm trying to do that by approaching 5 days/week.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:23 PM
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I already do. I just feel like I should go out 4-5 times a week.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:14 PM
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Nah, I came from Denver, CO and have no ties to the college campus here.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:11 PM
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Damn, those are some class A explanations. Thanks for the help, brother. I begin my first trek tonight after work. I'll let you know how it works out.
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:06 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem. I currently work as a medical assistant and I'm not a student there. However, I'm 26 years old so I could easily fit. Since they'll probably ask if I'm a student there or what degree I'm pursuing, what should I tell them? NOTE: I'm going the Mark Manson / Sasha Daygame vulnerability and honesty route, so I don't know how dishonest I can be throughout the whole interaction.
/r/seduction30/01/19 08:53 PM
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Here's one idea: I live really close to a community college and I plan to day game there after work for at least two hours. I'm just not sure how lively it will be past 6pm.
/r/seduction30/01/19 08:43 PM
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I usually bring my lunch from home since I'm trying to save money. There is a Starbucks nearby, so that's one option.
/r/seduction30/01/19 08:35 PM
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It very much is a lack of confidence. I feel like I robotically obey every piece of PUA advice I get without ever getting the reason why I do it. For example, look a girl in the eye. Check. Stand upright and speak from my chest. Check. It feels very performancy. I'm re-reading Models and I feel like I need to do some soul-searching to discover why I'm not confident.
/r/seduction30/01/19 05:58 AM
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So, here's my problem: I can maintain eye contact, that's no problem to me. But still, my frame fails and my mind wipes when I'm talking to a girl at a club. How can I fix this?
/r/seduction30/01/19 03:20 AM
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Yeah, but I'm working on getting out of the beta doormat mentality.
/r/askTRP28/01/19 10:26 PM
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Just a few people. I have a few co-workers Im cool with.
/r/askTRP28/01/19 08:45 PM
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I've been there since September 2017, so quite a while.
/r/askTRP28/01/19 08:30 PM
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No. This actually happened.
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:42 PM
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You should subscribe to him. He creates good content, especially if you're a software engineer or apart of the IT sector. Good stuff.
/r/seduction12/08/18 07:55 PM
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Yep, it should have been. Like I said, I can't explain it. Hence why I vowed to never pussy out again. I tend to keep my promises, so the next time this happens, I'll be prepared. EDIT: Maybe I do have an explanation. It's a YouTube video of John Sonmez aka the Simple Programmer. He discusses why people are afraid of success. URL here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu12PdmwVcE
/r/seduction12/08/18 07:36 PM
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It was horrible. It was my first time being in a situation like that. I just froze. To be honest, I felt embarrassed as strange as that may sound. I'm a half-Asian/half-White male and I have a strong affection toward white women. I never expected to be in a situation like that, especially since 3 out of the 5 women were white. I imagine it's the fear of success. I just didn't imagine it'd hit me that hard.
/r/seduction12/08/18 06:58 PM
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Oh brother, let me tell you a story. About two years ago, I had a friend named Nicole. Now, I personally wasn't attracted to her, but many men were due to her gigantic ass. We left a popular nightclub in Denver, CO called Beta Nightclub. We ran into this man and his wife and three HOT AF girls from Florida. They were visiting for the Summer. The man and his wife, a sexy Guatemalan native, decide to invite me, Nicole, and the three Flordians back to his apartment. The girls were there to party. I…
/r/seduction12/08/18 04:59 PM
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Yep, I was just thinking that. More direct, less 'colorful' like "you down to meet".
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