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1 pay off any and all debt you have 2 splurge maybe 1.5k for a knockout bespoke suit 3 open up a vanguard account and binge on coffee this weekend while learning the basics of investing, and put all of it away there sans enough to cover 6 months expenses - keep that in your bank savings account 4 live as if you never got the money
/r/askTRP26/03/18 02:55 PM
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Nope Edit - well there are plenty of sexually attractive young single mothers, so yeah, but they are obviously disqualified from relationships provided the male has any modicum of self respect or options
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:23 PM
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A guy who is genuinely average relative to other men cannot get a woman who is in his same relative percentile compared to her peers. This is where the frustration lies. Yes being fat/old/littered with kids from random guys makes you below the threshold of a 6/10 18-35yr old man with neither of those comparable situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:59 PM
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That broader range of attraction is by default incorporated into definitions of looksmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:39 PM
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Because most men realize that women they know to be looksmatched with them are still out of their league despite bringing to the table nothing but their on-par looks. Its depressing to really contemplate and really gas lights young men that aren't in the top 20% or so but still above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 03:09 PM
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"Enough women are like that enough of the time so as to necessitate an AWALT worldview unless explicitly shown otherwise on an individual basis"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:03 PM
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American Urban/Suburban South/Southeast - It is ALL about status/social standing (money usually comes from status here, not the other way around, less BB type people), with raw height coming in 2nd followed by facial aesthetics/physique, then personality/skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:36 PM
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Based off the blurred-lines 2017 definition they do all the time from my personal experience. Most men just don't care. And the few that do aren't taken the least bit seriously unless they are a minor or some extenuating circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:24 PM
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Why not hate both? They're both two extremes - I don't get along too well with people that are too awkward and anxious to even look you in the eye, and I don't particularly care for people that never shut up and won't ever leave you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 04:22 PM
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I'm fully accepting but not living in lament or depression or anything (at least not for reasons that have to do with interpersonal relationships). I view dating now akin to the concept of unweaving the rainbow espoused by Richard Dawkins - just because you take away the magic and the "feelz" and ground it all in fact does not diminish its subjective beauty or significance, but rather it allows you to truly appreciate it in a light of truth and understanding, even if the reality is harsh compare…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:57 PM
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Moreso the latter that my views are not hard line red, but rather I can't think of a premise that I don't agree with at least to some extent. Hell, I wish it weren't true, but 100% of my pre-rp and post-rp experiences with women ended up exactly as one would expect given the red pill premises. The red pill is a testable hypothesis. Years of experimentation and observation with it have left it unfalsified, with all the evidence pointing towards it being truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:09 PM
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Record setting amounts of academic scholarship, strategy game champion, lifetime of intellectual achievement. I have reason to believe I am fairly intelligent. I am extremely red. I consider myself to be a scientist and there is not a single idea I hold that is not subject to change if the appropriate evidence presented itself. I come to PPD because I enjoy it. I don't know why, I just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:40 PM
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I agree, but I also accept the corollary that most men aren't abject saints, but the overwhelming majority of greatness is male. It has less to do with gender as a whole and more with underlying IQ distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:36 PM
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If the carousel never existed the attraction would obviously not poof into existence. Unattractive dudes are unattractive dudes regardless of their partner's N count. However, in the absence of the carousel, the marriage/family part would at least stand a chance. IE anyone from the American south with grandparents/great grandparents age type of family can vouch that even if the physical part never was really there, the functional part of the marriage lasted without a hitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:18 PM
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My whole life I've been on the center-left/progressive end of the spectrum and Trump was the first Republican I've supported in my entire life. My values never changed, however the zeitgeist has shifted so much that now to be a classical liberal puts you in the center/center-right part of the spectrum. Everything I used to despise about the right (censorship of speech and ideas, science denial, religious indoctrination, constant moralizing etc.) is now the hallmark of the modern left. I do not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:08 PM
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Women aren't affected at all, hell they're love it because it will keep the bottom 80% from even bothering with them. Chads will keep chadding and the masses will have their opiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:17 PM
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They're just like men - creatures entirely driven by incentives and controlled by biological imperatives. They're also unlike men in that society tries to obfuscate that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:02 PM
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All personality does is separate you from those within your caste of visceral attractiveness. *note there is still a difference between personality and power/social status
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:06 PM
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Casually dated girls of every conceivable nationality - PhD students and dropouts, teachers and porn stars. As far as girls that actually approached me, I have NEVER been approached by a girl who wasn't either wasted or fat as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 02:56 PM
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Anyone watch the sargon of Akkad vs Thomas smith debate? Smith is exactly what comes to mind when I picture an adamant blue piller
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 02:39 PM
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Actually the height comes from the eastern side, the Asians/Serbs/Czech in my family were all 6ft+ while the "traditional" white relatives are all 5 9 or 10. And true to my heritage I did in fact fight mma haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 08:51 PM
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Possible jew in western european dna - strategy game champion and recipient of enough scholarship to put 8 people through college, while also 6'1 and jacked a la western europe....but there was one place the Asian genes did take their toll :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 08:06 PM
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eastern European, Japanese, western European mix third generation on one side, long enough term to not even know on the other I was an incel and self described "hopeless romantic" prior to TRP. Dad told me "just me nice, just me yourself etc." Current N is well over 100 just 3 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:03 PM
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Was in a frat, had the time of my life, usually rolled up to parties with a dozen or so girls and the preselection alone worked wonders in getting me laid every time. Its all about the ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:12 PM
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appearance - it just so happens that appearance correlates with youth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 02:25 PM
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Never tripped again since then, never had to. Life is good man, life is good.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/17 04:14 PM
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I think all the -ist and -isms of the world do in fact exist, and that many people are negatively affected. I just think it is patently absurd to suggest in 2017 that there is not only a prominent anti-female sentiment, but that there is more anti-female sentiment than anti-male sentiment. The past may be different, and some people may be old enough to remember when it was, but that doesn't change that the pendulum as it is now has swung the other way and there simply isn't a case to be made tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 03:28 PM
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That's what I took my first time and my life was literally never the same - I overcame all of my more abstract/existential fears and started reading so much I accumulated a personal library. I also became more sociable overnight. If you have experimented enough with other substances I would definitely suggest taking the plunge down the rabbit hole.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/17 03:23 PM
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Experiencing ego death is a fantastic thing to have under your belt, and is quite easy to achieve: just take 7 grams of 'shrooms to the face, that sure as hell did it for me.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/17 07:41 PM
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More likely to breed does not mean should breed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:39 PM
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Neither really happen once you're past level 12, you're actually given huge advantages in that regard levels 16+ and other players are punished if you even perceive others as not taking you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:35 PM
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So I guess we need to stop incentivizing them to have kids because they do nothing but harm to society and the mothers themselves. My view is that if my taxes go to them they're no longer a right they're a privilege. But my whole pro-eugenics thing is a different argument for a different time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:08 PM
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Female - higher "vitality", higher "charisma", muuuuchhh higher "luck" stat in a sense. Strength has been nerfed to the point of being near useless in the current 2017 patch anyways, the only ad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:05 PM
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I noted in a different comment that it is both a cause and a symptom due to the fact that it starts a feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:03 PM
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When you are financially stable and emotionally mature and find someone that fits those same descriptors. If that isn't a possibility then don't reproduce, society is better off without your genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 12:59 PM
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I never said it was because they were black or that genetics or anything like that was in play, but the reality is black culture in America is overwhelmingly cancerous and single motherhood is both a cause and due to the feedback loop it perpetuates also an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 11:13 AM
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The amount of mothers that are single because they took the time to find a suitable time, place, and mate in life to intentionally procreate then became single because the man died or something like that is an overwhelming minority of cases. Early age single motherhood is arguably the sole reason black america is the most maladaptive demographic relative to other longstanding populations in any other country in the world. Anyone can google the stats too, across the board its bad for the kid, its…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 10:37 AM
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You're cancer upon society and 99% of the time it is entirely your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 10:20 AM
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It's better to generalize when dealing with large numbers and better to treat people as individuals when dealing with individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 02:37 PM
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I think you are actually partly true but for the wrong reasons. Most bluepill men have never seen a change in their status. Most people who are red have seen both sides, which is a major factor in influencing their perspective. At least it was for me. Going from lesser than pond scum smv during a time where all of my peers were sexually active, to a "chad" stereotype later put a lot of things in perspective for me. It allowed me to truly see the sexual marketplace from all angles, something whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:43 PM
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I disagree with characterizing half the country as human garbage for voting for trump as per Ana. My all time favorite intellectual is Sam Harris and if you think Cenk doesn't have an extend history of intentionally misrepresenting him and anyone else who speaks the truth about islam you're just a liar. I think TYT are apologists for islam and blm. I think free college education is not a right, and I think funding it even if it were is nothing more than a pipe dream that Bernie would not have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:57 PM
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which I think is ridiculous, and we probably agree there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:22 PM
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You're allowed to not like someone in your own party without it mandating that your political affiliation change, its not that hard of a concept. Where did I ever state I was against equality? I am 100% for equality of opportunity and you can't show me a single place I stated otherwise. This makes me, by your definition, a liberal. You're not a liberal because you don't want equality of opportunity, you're a regressive. You're a regressive that is mad that voices of reason have emerged to say "e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:20 PM
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I firmly support your freedom to express your ideology at work without being fired, but in tandem I would support my freedom as your coworker to call you out for being wrong without repercussion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:15 PM
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Their facts and charts discredit themselves. The entire foundation of BLM hinges on the idea that blacks dying to cops is an epidemic, while more blacks die at the hands of other blacks in Chicago alone while no one bats an eye. So yeah, any argument stemming from that is de facto not going to be well-reasoned. Same thing with feminists and the notion of patriarchy. Or Christians and metaphysics. They all have the right to express their ideas, and everyone has the right to dissent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:07 PM
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When did I say I thought trump was better than Hillary, I voted for neither because I hated both. You keep putting words in my mouth because you so desperately want me to be a right winger for some reason. I have watched TYT and still do, and I think Ana is a holier-than-thou moralizing piece of shit. Cenk is also flagrantly intellectually dishonest. I don't even really watch sargon that much, my regular consumption is a rotation of sam harris, bill maher, and Jordan Peterson. People like you de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:02 PM
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If you genuinely felt there was a problem, and addressed it in a way bereft of moralizing and arguments from emotion, and backed it up with intellectually honest evidence, I'd have no problem. But if that's how people operated there would be no more feminism, black lives matter, religion or anything based on charlatans and sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:58 PM
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Its sad that it doesn't because people nowadays can't hear opposing sides and resort to shutting down opinions that don't fit into their ideologies
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:48 PM
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So you just want to whine lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:44 PM
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I am a liberal so I have everything in common with real liberals, but nothing in common with regressives. Things they disagree on - abortion rights (I'm adamantly pro-choice) teaching of alternative science in school (get creationist bullshit out of the classroom) THE DAMN ENVIRONMENT (possibly the biggest problem humanity is facing, I run an environmental nonprofit for fucks sake) and many other smaller things edit - even though I disagree with ben on a lot of issues, I respect him more that hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:41 PM
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Also liberal =/= regressive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:29 PM
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I don't understand how that disqualifies him as a liberal. There are some things about Bernie I really liked, and there are some things that are entirely indefensible. You don't have to be a right winger to acknowledge someone's glaring deficiencies. And lets not pretend that he's done nothing but go downhill since losing the primary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:28 PM
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I was going to vote for Gary Johnson before he went full cuck, so I abstained from voting. That's for ignoring the actual substance and going for the attempted ad hominem though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:24 PM
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I'm proposing an idea using evidence to back it up, while remaining completely open to evidence that proves my view wrong. That's the scientific method. You're just throwing around buzzwords and incorrectly contextualized debate terminology while by your own admission advancing an ideology that has no supporting evidence. GG no re
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:22 PM
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Because the regressives CONSTANTLY deny it and try to change the world to fit into the mold of their worldview based on that denial. And please do tell me how not believing in the fantasy of gender nondifference disqualifies me being a liberal...and you wonder why the left is eating itself. Sargon, Dave Rubin, Sam Harris, Bill Maher - these are the real liberals, not the cancerous regressives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:20 PM
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And those beliefs and ideologies are useless without evidence to back them up. My realz > yalls feelz
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:16 PM
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Statements of fact without supporting evidence are useless, no moving goalpoasts just a weak reply on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:09 PM
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People who go out of their way to point out biological differences are just correct. I'm a liberal but I don't ever think there will naturally be as many women programmers, soldiers and CEOs, just like there will never be as many male nurses, teachers, and service reps. And THAT'S OKAY as long as everyone has equality of opportunity. Fuck equality of outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:08 PM
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We shouldn't. If a woman wants to be a programmer and a man wants to be a teacher there should be nothing holding them back. But we shouldn't try to remedy disparities that have biological origins by pushing the notion that men and women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:56 PM
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Because your views are useless without data to back them up. As long as you make an intellectually honest case for anything I could care less what the point you're trying to prove is - capitalism of ideas and all. The problem is that the evidence is more convincing that there are extant biological differences between sexes that can heavily influence career choices, and as far as race goes blacks aren't looking so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:54 PM
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If you could actually provide data to back up your claim I'd have no problem and would defend your right to say what you have to say and would not want you to be fired outright
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:46 PM
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I agree, and I would have been defending the communists then. The pendulum has just swung back to the other extreme end with the progressive left now standing in as an exact clone of the moral Christian Right of the 80s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 12:45 PM
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I do recognize that they have the right to do so as a private company, but I am rightly outraged by the fact that if someone from the left did something equivalent they would at worst get a slap on the wrist. People are mad about the absurd double standard at play, which was the topic of the manifesto for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 01:20 AM
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I wouldn't expect to hear it from an alleged victim herself, but the notion that someone at the top of a social hierarchy that regularly hung out with hundreds of different girls wouldn't be the exact type of person privy to that type of gossip is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:22 PM
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I was in a fraternity, every time someone was accused I knew, and I kept in regular contact with literally hundreds of girls that loved to gossip. Not a single accusation I heard of came out to be proven true, and not only that but they were in fact proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (security camera footage, dozens of eye witnesses etc.) to be fabricated. So why are false accusations more of a problem then the actual "problem", especially in the most demonized circle where it supposedly happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:17 PM
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I honestly couldn't name a woman I know who eats healthy, rigorously exercises, and otherwise puts effort into her appearance that wouldn't have a shot at dating provided she put in some effort and measured up in all other criteria. Its female solipsism to not believe that looks are her primary value. I just don't think a large majority of women are willing to put that type of effort forward because its not required anywhere else in their lives. This is also rare among men, but certainly not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:44 PM
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Buts its more than thinking they can get him, but that they are entitled to a man of his overall quality despite their own mediocrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:19 PM
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During college I never knew a single girl who was sexually assaulted, but have 4 close friends falsely accused. The one accusation (not one of my friends) that ended up making the news on my college campus was later revealed to be a blatant false accusation because there were security cameras in the room where it all went down. As far as I can see false accusation is now a more widespread problem then actual REAL assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:08 PM
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I agree that looks are by and far the most important thing for women in terms of attraction. That's why I don't understand why so many average and below-average looking women think they deserve a man that literally has it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 07:59 PM
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Well when you take a demographic and simultaneously bombard them with validation and instant gratification 24/7 on social media, while at the same time telling them they're a perpetual victim in the classroom, its not hard to see why you have this female chiaroscuro of narcissism and self-loathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:03 PM
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I don't mind people expecting a lot, but the problem is that most women think they deserve a man who excels in all areas of life while the only thing she truly excels in is the looks department (if even that).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:59 PM
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I am demonstrably in the top 5% for looks, top 1% for intelligence, and top 10% and rapidly climbing for earnings. So why would it be wrong for me to disqualify up front 95% or so women from a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 12:54 PM
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Women also get immense societal benefits by just existing, boo hoo everything else is spoon fed to me but I can't ride the cock carousel without consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:31 PM
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because men and women are different, which is true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:54 PM
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Because hypocrisy implies that both parties are held to the same standard. Men nor women are more or less important, just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:59 PM
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The entire premise here hinges on the idea that men and women are the same, which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 01:20 PM
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anything too forward by a girl I don't find attractive - at least I'm honest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:41 PM
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salman rushdie has a jawline about as defined as amy schumers abs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:33 PM
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Someone wanting to have sex with you out of attraction - phrased perfectly enough? cmon that's such an obvious nonexample and not what was being talked about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:14 PM
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Someone wanting to have sex with you and someone finding you attractive are synonymous, I don't know what you're getting at. If my goal with a girl is a relationship I'll treat her the exact same way I would if she were someone I just wanted to bang because attraction is attraction is attraction, some girls just need X attraction build up for sex then X + Y for relationships, and some vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:59 PM
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I actually love Pokémon but it's more an intentionally cheesy play on words and trp concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:49 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:47 PM
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The idea is that yes looks are important, and you need to maximize what you have, but unless you're grotesquely deformed you can still put in enough work in other areas to compensate. It will be harder for some than others depending on the level of compensation needed but never impossible. Case and point I am a viscerally attractive and objectively successful young man, and yet Salman Rushdie and Peter Dinklage are out there fucking much hotter women than I ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:32 PM
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I mean as a whole. I know plenty of single and looking women that genuinely believe they are doing all they can by looking good, having a tinder, and hitting bars. "I'm obviously putting effort to put myself out there, what more can I do! OMG why are no guys hitting on me". Where as yes plenty of guys don't realize they look like shit or don't care enough to change it, but there are faaaaaar more guys that dedicate a large portion of their time looking up strategies online on how to pick up girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:28 PM
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I agree - however there is a MASSIVE difference between what men and women respectively consider as putting in effort. A lot of women's version of "putting in effort" would be considered barely trying by a lot of men. I don't think they're being disingenuous, they just don't know what its like to really have to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 12:54 PM
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Deep down I'm still insecure addicted to the validation that slaying strange brings, throw in a heavy predisposition for risk taking and a hedonistic worldview and there you have it. There are far more men like me than most people realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:43 PM
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Your snowflake victim complex is so strong, serious advice man stop complaining and start working on yourself and maybe you'll get a little some some too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 11:10 AM
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I didn't realize normies became trilingual cage fighter musicians that read hundreds of books over a period of years...the amount of blood, sweat, tears, and self loathing I put in day in day out without wasting even a second over half a decade made me a hell of a man, unattractive facial features be damned. "Normie" lol wasting time ragging on others instead of improving yourself is why you're stuck in incel land my friend, trust me it's escapable you just have to put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:19 AM
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a combination of hitting the gym and engaging in degrading sex acts with some college freshman age girls
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:26 PM
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By definition anyone who undergoes INvoluntary CELibacy is an incel. I also don't think its that common for a male to go from 12-18 without so much as slow dancing, kissing, holding hands with a single female despite being dead set on having a girlfriend and consciously putting in effort to do so. What separated me from other incels is that I actually put in the necessary work to break free instead of whining online about shit out of my control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:35 PM
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I had an extended period of my time where I was involuntarily celibate...entirely deprived of female experience in all way shapes and forms in an environment where the majority of my peers were...what world do you live in where that doesn't = incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:21 PM
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I quite literally didn't so much as touch a girl throughout middle and high school despite wanting a girlfriend since 5th grade, hated myself and the way I looked, really said everything incels say. I definitely can relate, or at least empathize far better than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:40 AM
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It's not fixable for the same reasons many systems in the world aren't - incrementalism and externalities. It's only going to get worse, palliative care via concepts like the red pill are all we've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:34 PM
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I'm not saying you shouldn't learn how to be fun, I'm just saying that as far as the returns on a singular activity go lifting gets you farther than anything "fun" if you're annotherwise invisible male
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 07:26 PM
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Wanna know what hot girls call a fun guy that isn't viscerally attractive? A friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:19 PM
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Yes of course they lie. They want a man who naturally knows how to attract them, aka has the best genetic predisposition and status. Women abhor the idea of lesser men learning to means to seduce them, it is against their biological imperative. We are animals, and mating is a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:56 PM
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I hadn't held hands, kissed, or had any physical interaction of any remote kind with a female prior to being 18 in college, and that girl was the only one until 19. But that aside its not working hard in and of itself, its working smart. I worked hard as an incel but I worked stupidly because I was caught up in being a metrosexual nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:21 PM
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I have no empathy for either because I've been both and they are both beatable with proper goal setting and hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:12 AM
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You could easily fit any of those into your day as well and they are all great. But if you're an average guy and all you do is eat, sleep, television, and work, the one singular best activity you could add is bodybuild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 03:31 PM
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Same reason women have more suicide "attempts" but they fail, where as men actually kill themselves more. Men are more likely try to make the pain stop at the root cause (for better or worse), women are more likely to cry out for attention/help (for better or worse).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 12:29 PM
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I really can't think of a single damn thing you could do for one hour a day in place of lifting that would yield such an amazing broad spectrum of results over a long period of time. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 12:24 PM
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While I don't disagree I think there is another factor. Nowadays in school, even if you act in self defense/defense of another you still get in severe trouble for getting in any form of altercation regardless of the situation. The pussification begins at youth and the idea that you are never to intervene, only to report to a higher authority, is browbeat into men K-12.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 10:01 PM
0

The problem there is that you think you are in the friend zone with specific girls. This is the biggest lie men buy into. The friend zone is close enough to an all or none thing that it should be treated as such - essentially you are either a beta or an alpha and girls as a whole either want you or not. I never changed my personality - but I added 40 lbs of muscle, picked up the guitar, travel and know multiple languages, got a half-sleeve done by an acclaimed artist etc. Seriously once you lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:51 PM
4

I had plenty of female friends when I was a blue pill incel. The problem was I was basically seen as a gay friend because I was...welll...a blue pill incel. Though I do agree that for a majority of guys who have problems this is where it lies, in that they have no idea how to act around women romantically or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:25 PM
5

It shouldn't be defined because it doesn't exist - how orwellian things have become that such an absurd oxymoron as "consensual rape" even gets thrown around. This is why Donald Trump is president.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 11:13 AM
1

I keep a camera setup in my bedroom when I go out after being a victim of a false accusation myself and seeing it happen to many other acquaintances in college. Its better to be paranoid than to have your life ruined by your garden variety BPD millennial woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:16 PM
18

I used to consider myself a hopeless romantic and was in love with the idea of love, was a super nice guy, and blue pill as all hell. The transition began when my first girlfriend, whom I went full beta bux Disney prince on, cheated on me with an ex that used to violently physically abuse her. I formally began identifying as red after I began dating a girl purely to test RP ideas on as a kind of social science project, and every single core RP idea played out just as they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:48 PM
6

As someone who lives with panic disorder I actually have more understanding and empathy than most in regard to mental illness. Something like depression is real, out of your control, and is cause to seek help. Something like ADHD is not really a disorder, and is over diagnosed and frequently adopted by normal people as a way to seem quirky or to excuse undesirable traits. Ultimately I see no difference between a man who believes he is actually a woman and a man who actually believes he is a fox.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:29 PM
6

I was referencing the big picture there. Gender dysphoria, ADHD, gender non binary sapiosexual. These types usually have a laundry list of perceived maladies that they almost take a sort of pride in reciting. You're not special, you're just a little weird. I'm definitely fucking weird, most of us have shit about us that makes us weird. Stop trying to be a special snowflake and just live life and deal with whatever consequences come if your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:57 PM
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I'm under no illusion that I have any chance of swaying any SJW/bluepill types on this or any topic. The point is to sway the silent observer on the fence, same reason why intellectuals debate creationists or climate change deniers etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:51 PM
7

Yeah, my point is that if you actively partake in something that is widely considered strange, you shouldn't be shielded from any (legal, of course) repercussions incurred by your own conscious choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:46 PM
11

And you think ascribing a formal diagnosis and inventing medical terminology to describe every little idiosyncrasy and indulging in someone's delusions about their sex IS conducive to mental health? And where do we draw the line with dictating what people must accept as normal? How long until I get charged with a hate crime because I refuse to address some cunt dressed as/convinced she is a cat with a meow?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:44 PM
2

Most of my obscure porn knowledge comes from hovering over shit that comes up on the random videos on home pages and just wondering what type of guy beats off to that kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:09 PM
7

Self explanatory and just as weird as you imagine. Most guys know what it is because they hovered over it in disbelief when it popped up on the front page of a porn site. Apparently there is a market for it, there wouldn't be the supply without the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:46 PM
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Because I'm not convinced gender even exists, nor does it NEED to exist. You are either a man or a woman. You can be a girly man or a manly woman, but you're still a man or woman. I support your right to cross dress if you so desire, or to change your name or undergo surgery if you so desire. What I don't get is that nowadays we have to have a formal diagnosis of every idiosyncrasy. We need to feel unique and be told that we aren't weird, we have XYZ and its normal. Well I'll be the one who says…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 01:32 PM
3

Girl A you mentioned is not a slut at the present time. She is laying the groundwork to be a slut but current is just a girl that talks about sex a lot. Girl B is honestly irrelevant because the slut designation is more of a means to an end, being the disqualification of a woman as monogamy/mother material, and being a hooker, regardless of the slut semantics at hand, does just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:54 PM
8

Every girl I've dated and even a few that I was in the process of one-night-standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:42 AM
1

So obese people should be celebrated for being a disgusting waste of resources? "Indulging in something to excess" is a total non sequitur to "deserves to be hailed as an achievement".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:41 AM
2

A girl that, by either her own admission or by an obvious extension of her actions, pursues frequent male validation via physical interaction. The party girl that gets gang banged by rappers or frat stars is a total slut. The serial monogamist that only puts out for boyfriends, yet has 10 different boyfriends a year, is a slut. The girl that vets partners and only offers sex after serious commitment has been firmly established is not a slut, and will have the countable-on-one-hand body count to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:38 AM
2

I now put my resume out there at the 6 month point in a new job. Plan on doing one or two years but there are no downsides to trying.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/17 02:54 PM
1

Shrooms gave my life more meaning and spiritual fulfillment in 8 hours than did 12 years in the church
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 04:02 PM
2

Red Pill. The matches I get on tinder are few, far between, and not even half as attractive as many of the girls I'll pull one night stands with. On the flip side I know guys that are far more photogenic than me that never pull girls at bars/parties, but will show up to date functions with some bombshell arm candy they got off tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 02:23 PM
9

Depends on the source of the number as well. I'd prefer zero, but would have no qualms accepting 1 committed boyfriend every 3 years. So 2-3 if dating someone also my age of 23, 1 if i was dating an 18 yr old and 4 if I were dating a 27 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:27 AM
1

You could be shit out of luck ugly as hell and fat at 5'2, but I guarantee that if you got some 16'' arms and sub 10% body fat with a wardrobe change and quality haircut you could be a bare minimum of average and pull any girl around your height (which is still a substantial amount of girls out there). No man lacks the potential to be at least a superficial 5, and with the proper social status/charisma/talent can easily be a 6-7. It just takes a level of effort and time few instant gratification…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:24 AM
1

There are numerous points of data out there about how skewed hiring is towards women in STEM fields has recently become. I'm sure plenty are qualified, but my argument is that across the board more women get handout jobs than do men, therefore the premise stands that education/employment is easier for women, no matter how ultimately marginal/endemic the tilt in their favor is. Further, despite this, a lot still have the gall to say men have it dramatically easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:31 PM
1

You can still be qualified for a position, yet be less qualified than other candidates. I'm sure any female that was diversity hired into, say a crazy engineering position was "qualified" in that she could competently perform her job, but that doesn't make it okay that a man with better credentials was denied that same job just because he didn't have the right chromosomes. This dilemma is most observable in STEM and higher level management/business fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 07:11 PM
1

Instead of "omg its a woman tax, I spend $300 a week at ulta/sephora because patriarchy beauty standards put a gun to my head" something like "here is empirical evidence that teachers-->professors-->employers are across the board less likely to give me good grades-->hire me for the job just because I'm a woman when you control for everything else. Except its the opposite that is true and that is what men face, and can put forward substantiating evidence for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:51 PM
1

I love gems like this, the same feminists that claim men need to be less stoic and open up more and be emotional actually do have the self awareness to realize how off-putting that behavior is. Welcome to the red pill sweetheart ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:29 PM
1

the grass is always greener, except I can't think of any serious point that a woman could make in that regard that doesn't either fall apart in the face of evidence or have nothing to do with being a woman as opposed to just poor life choices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:11 PM
1

Makes fun of someone for the person their name is based off of, has name that is a play on words between leftist terrorist group and misandrist charlatan
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:08 PM
2

Then drop the keyboard warrior SJW bullshit and go to the Middle East where women actually have it worse if you care so much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 04:09 PM
2

I would so much rather be a woman in the western world. I'm 23 in the US and can undoubtedly say every single aspect of life would be either equivalent or easier if I were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 04:08 PM
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Same reason all the other groups pull the intersectionality crap. They won all their real fights, but there's still money on the table so they have to find/invent new issues to receive funding to combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 02:19 PM
1

Fake it until you make it. If you have the money, hookers/sex tourism/strip clubs will help in the beginning stages. There is definitely an exponential curve type scenario with men that correlates to previous success with the opposite sex and comfort engaging with them, for most young men I'd say this turning point would be N>10 provided they are college age, at least for me it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 03:32 PM
1

1 - 18 2 - I'll never be satisfied due to the same hybrid OCD/narcissism type drivers that fuel my bodybuilding, reading, career etc. Successful yes in terms of raw stats vs the vast majority of males, but still far from satisfied. 3 - Definitely boosted my ego but I can't honestly say it made me more confident around women, but rather more confident/secure around the other guys! The confidence with women came after "faking it til' I made it" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 07:56 PM
2

I feel like modern dating has fucked men because your league IS NOT your smv. The vast majority of women that are my equivalent place on the SMV bell curve consider themselves out of my league and getting with them takes effort that my lazy shit self doesn't want to put in so I'm not satisfied in that respect. Me and the younger generation is absolutely fucked by how hypergamy got potentiated by social media and the internet in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:34 PM
1

I lost it at 18 then dated a girl after that for a year. Shit got real between the age of 20-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 11:02 AM
1

Man, 23, around 80-90 if only counting PIV
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:37 AM
6

After spending my early years as a hopeless romantic who was lauded as the nicest sweetest guy, I never managed to get a girlfriend or even so much as kiss a girl. I was friend zoned beyond belief despite doing everything that society, my parents, and the media said I should do and I was deeply depressed because of it. Then I became a the living embodiment of dark triad in college and began fucking girls left and right. Girls that I hadn't met but a few hours prior would show me texts that beta …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:53 PM
2

Listening to enough of that stuff will turn you into a quivering pile of beta cuck and is extremely blue, whining about getting your heart broken by a woman you pedestalize isn't red as far as I know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:47 AM
2

blue pill - mayday parade, sleeping with sirens, pierce the veil red pill - motley crue, guns n roses, red hot chili peppers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:56 AM
1

Why do humans fall for any sort of behavior that involves deliberate manipulation and concealed motives? We're just organic machines, and in the recent years a lot of the female code has been made publicly available.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:59 AM
2

thats why they only have sex with him at first and then cut it off them moment he is attached
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:21 PM
1

Great post, props to the legal decimation of the other guy and the poise and grace in handling your situation with your kids in mind. I guess my only question is if you're hiring for your company!
/r/TheRedPill25/06/17 11:51 AM
1

It is possible to be on the less photogenic side/just not have good pictures of yourself. Hell at one point in my life I was literally told by a girl who I was set up with for a grad a date function that she only went because her best friend made her, thinking I was going to be ugly based off my available pictures. She thought I was hot irl and I got laid. I also know the inverse - guys that are ridiculously, model-level photogenic, but then in real life are 5'6 and chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:38 AM
1

they want commitment with a HIGH VALUE man - advertising it right off the bat means you are desperate (bad and weird)/have no options (aka no preselection)and therefore low value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:29 AM
3

so you genuinely think that your girlfriend would have remained faithful if it weren't for that one guy....as if it isn't painfully obvious that if it weren't him it would have eventually been someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 11:46 PM
10

But it is. Her sexual availability is a resource. That resource is in demand, and has a 100% chance of being used should you not take it for yourself. You have a chance to take it - no matter what decision you make she's still a slut and going to cheat, so you may as well get laid. Or you could jerk off alone while thinking about how moral you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:53 PM
1

Who would tell the guy? Chances are if she is cheating on someone she isn't actively trying to get caught, what really are the odds of someone close enough to both parties to know they're dating, and be close enough friends with the guy to care about him, to witness something in public that is beyond the amount of doubt it would take to compel him to tell? If your girl is at a bar, and you're not there, you've already lost and its you're fault for being in a relationship with a party slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 08:49 PM
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It's basically the tragedy of the commons - if she's willing to cheat willy nilly with you at a bar or at a party, it means she'd be willing to cheat with someone else too so you may as well be the one who gets laid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 05:28 PM
1

1 - 8/10 - When it was really popular I was frequently told I look exactly like Boo Boo Stewart playing "Seth" in twilight, except leaner with a few more pounds a done a very well done tattoo. 2 - no 3 - if I had to guess 75 4 - 2 formal girlfriends 5 - nothing much now that I work, most is work related (chamber of commerce events, community involvement, volunteering) 6 - I went from virgin to most of the aforementioned N in college 7 - yes because you actually have to work for it, though there …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 07:37 PM
1

That depends entirely on how long one goes without sex. If I haven't gotten laid by a new girl in that ten days to two weeks span of time I'll dramatically lower my standards for the night purely for validation and release. I don't date at all but I'm extremely selective when it comes to girls I will have sex with more than once and partake in activities with that aren't overtly sexual in design. I'm also a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 07:32 PM
1

Sugar in the for of raw fruit is fine in the morning/early afternoon, gotta get those balanced micros. I still consume 5 servings of fruit and vegetables each a day while prepping for a physique competition and I haven' been sick - even a cold - for 3 years. Great post I just had to add that in because there are people out there who would read that and genuinely think cutting out fruit was a good idea.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/17 10:34 AM
2

1 I had my dad from life up until college, and then a fraternity brother from college onward. 2 my dad always inquired throughout middle and high school into my personal life and constantly asked if there were any girls I liked and provided advice on how to get them. He told me to be nice, act the gentleman, and I will find someone who likes me for who I am. I understandably never even kissed a girl until college. College onward my best friend and fraternity brother (my little, ironically) mento…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 03:31 PM
1

He is in his 70s and currently still fucking a woman that is hotter than the most attractive lay 99% of men who read this have had so yeah, what he's doing is obviously working to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 12:39 AM
3

there is a difference between submissive (i.e. open to multiple options when making decisions, not complaining or holding it over your head when she doesn't get her way, etc) and being an annoying piece of shit that literally never has input when asked what she wants to do, but then still complains about the outcome. Most millennial girls are the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 10:06 AM
1

it made me feel like swallowing the red pill when i came to that same realization a few years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:47 AM
1

My numbers aren't off lol. And where as I think that excuse would have worked even 10 or so years ago, literally EVERYONE has near constant internet access in some way shape or form. Most poor people have smart phones, literally anyone can google "how to eat healthy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:55 PM
4

I don't get the whole excuse of poverty/not having the funds. I am an extremely active, muscular young man, and although money is far from an issue for me, I still manage to eat for about $6 for an entire day's worth of extremely healthy food. A nonbodybuilder/woman could probably use my same diet but only need to consume between $4-5 worth. This is CHEAPER than what most people who ACTUALLY financially struggle spend on food on a day to day basis. Does it suck that corporations contribute to it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:15 PM
2

Am a dyed in the wool red-piller who also spent time as the executive director of an environmental conservation/science education nonprofit. I personally hate the extensive overlap between TRP sexual strategy and other tradcon concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 10:46 AM
1

Me 20 her 19 I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 05:24 PM
1

None of which detracted from the point, which you obviously understood despite saying it made no sense, and is certainly not wrong and can be proven right by just shutting your computer and going out on any college campus, any big city night life, or getting on tinder with a girl friend decidedly less attractive than you swiping next to you and watching what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 12:45 PM
1

What a lot of women don't get is the importance of facial aesthetics in judging women. If you don't store much fat in your face and have good genetics you can get away with having a little more fat on your body. Of course, at a certain weight you will eventually begin to lose the beauty in your face and that point is the cut off. The rocking' body is just icing on the cake for a pretty face, and when someone is overweight it is not the problem in an of itself as opposed to what that weight does …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 12:38 PM
12

tell that to my ex-girlfriend who cheated on me with a more alpha guy despite being perfectly happy and still fought to get me to take her back for a solid year after the break...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 12:31 PM
1

I'm pretty sure you just didn't really read closely then, its not that hard to follow. I'll offer a simple metaphor. A low smv man trying to get a woman would be like a person starving and having no available food, where as the low smv woman would be like a starving person who has some food available but chooses not to eat it because she thinks it isn't good enough for her and chooses to starve. Low smv woman at least have a choice, and still receive validation, where as a low smv man has it far…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 12:28 PM
2

I had my first date at 19, shortly after both getting my first kiss and losing my virginity in the same sitting at 18. That little snippet of time had dramatic effects on the evolution of my views on women and dating. It's not that the wait itself made me bitter, it's that the girls who turned me down throughout high school all wanted to be friends and lauded me as a nice guy who any other girl would be lucky to get, then when I adapted the college hedonistic psychopath asshole lifestyle I was d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 01:09 AM
1

I 10/10 think I'm arguing with Deepak Chopra. You're using big words you may not even fully grasp yourself to be pedantic to try to project intellectual superiority without addressing any argument at all. Woo woo alert.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:56 AM
1

The notion that atheism is a religion is puerile nonsense. Do some followers act culty and give off the vibe? Sure. But the tenants are not based off of any faith or impart any worldview, morality, values, etc. Saying atheism is a religion is like saying abstinence is a sex position, or abstaining from eating is a dish. Its simply not true nor intellectually honest. If your argument is one from pragmatism then so be it, but don't try to pull obvious non sequiturs to make it. I guess you could ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 12:44 AM
1

Ahh, the old "atheism is a religion argument" coming from someone who sounds like a wannabe intellectual snowflake who majors in religion but skips most classes to smoke pot. And there is no "supposed" nature about the bronze age, the bronze age definitely happened. Can't tell if trolling or just weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:57 PM
1

Because those positions are almost exclusively sought after by men. But why work for something when you can whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:22 PM
1

How do you go about conflating accepting reality for what it is as opposed to living Bronze Age comfortable lies as weakness?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:27 AM
1

Red 23 Male Atheist/anti-theist 10 - I don't go around proselytizing (unproselytizing?) but my lifestyle and choices are heavily influenced by scientific literacy, secular morality, and awareness of my own mortality I think there is no conflict between atheism and red pill beliefs. If anything there go well together in that they both are about accepting what may seem to be a harsh truth and making the best of it as opposed to willful ignorance of reality. Unfortunately the subject matter attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 11:08 AM
1

Religion I never general makes you into a little bitch by definition- subservience to sky man of your choosing is inherently not masculine. Also as someone who was deeeeply involved in church activities in multiple different churches I can safely say they are straight up beta male factories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:08 PM
2

I don't think anyone really ever made that claim, even the reddest of reds. We just think society/culture/media whatever nebulous influential entity of your liking DOES say that being nice can get you a girlfriend. Most of us really did just want one good girl and not sleep around at all before getting burnt and realizing how women really do function in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 11:27 PM
7

If white supremacist tend to hate blacks, then a movement based around female superiority will probably...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:22 PM
1

So when boutiques have nice items on display it's their fault when someone seals them because they just couldn't help themselves since they had an easy opportunity, or maybe they had a drink. Your logic is too strong bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 01:36 AM
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Just finished that book myself, so much better than the usual self helpy circle jerk stuff people usually take excerpts from Edit - referencing the book "Influence: the psychology of persuasion"
/r/TheRedPill21/03/17 12:58 AM
2

After quitting my first job out of college that I was absolutely miserable in, which I was too afraid to do because of fear and oneitis for the job, I just finished my first week in my new job, and despite being fresh out of training and barely out of college I had the best stats in the state within the company for the position (banking for what it's worth). After finally finishing my 3 year long bulk I started cutting for the first time about 4 months ago, and now for the first time in my life …
/r/TheRedPill19/03/17 04:20 PM
1

Watch what they do, not what they say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 02:57 PM
0

It's the tragedy of the commons. If you don't dick that slut down someone else will. If she wants to maintain her value she will, it's really not the guys fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 02:01 AM
2

I'm quite experienced and would never wife up a high n girl, have many friends who are in same situation. I'm not saying the people you describe don't exist but high n in women is just not desirable across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 04:47 PM
2

Encouraged false rape accusations and demonized male sexuality on a general level - maintained sexist divorce court - poisoned the social sciences and promotes believing in feelings over facts - produced countless eyesores and encourages the mass production of said eyesores - engages in social media witch hunts and ruins careers of men who have amounted to far more than any feminist - may eventually end civilization as we know it by destroying the nuclear family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 03:17 PM
4

Should add I'm in the states. Unless you're in an extremely ghetto area or filthy rich it's actually pretty difficult to find hookers with backpage gone. It's pretty damn looked down upon unless you're in vegas
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 01:20 PM
6

I'd say only 20%. Only the really poor and really rich are frequent customers, and then you have the hedonists like me and some of my friends who just like hookers, but even in upper middle class party culture groups I've found most guys still prefer strip clubs and don't even know how to find hookers to begin with (I haven't found one since backpage went down)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 11:39 AM
2

The real problem lies in the fact that you have college level classrooms shoving the 1 in 5 bullshit down malleable kids throats. I don't think most of the casual feminists are charlatans, just the ones in academia perpetuating this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:23 PM
1

That's not a "red pill " way of life, that's a degenerate thug way of life. Good for you in making something of yourself. Unfortunately it just so happens young women are more sexually attracted to the former but that's an easy attitudinal fix that involves nothing mutually exclusive with the plan of success you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 12:01 PM
3

Were the threats because you wouldn't drink beers...like cmon haha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:58 AM
21

You had frat bros follow you to your house to heckle you about not slaying strange and chugging beers, you threatened to shoot them, and now they want internships? Wow what a totally not made up play on a nerd fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 11:31 AM
2

If we're going down this rabbit hole chemically castrated males would out-technology any breed of females
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 11:50 AM
21

For every male dictator there are a dozen male nobel prize winners, every male killer a hundred thousand male firefighters and surgeons etc. women wouldn't have the technology to complain about men if it weren't for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 11:54 PM
3

It's easy as hell to sit in a peaceful all white city in Vermont and call the people who actually have to deal with friends frequently being robbed and mugged and harassed by blacks on a regular basis racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:58 PM
3

What pisses me off the most is that, as a liberal, it's the affurmatuv akshun blatant racism by liberal educators that validates everything the right does. Idk how they can do shit like that then wonder why kids end up with racial tensions and heavy skepticism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:45 PM
2

The likelihood is pretty small but hey shit happens, southeast United States?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:28 PM
4

Of course your first impulse is to stick up for the minority despite not having any remote clue what you're talking about since you weren't at MY school, which like i said was a graduating class of 20 so I knew everyone very very well. If you have time to shoot hoops at the gym for 3+ hours every day of the week and for who knows how long on weekends, you have time to study. Especially if the school gives you a free laptop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:21 PM
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Yeah they paid half retarded blacks "academic" scholarships to play sports. Of course no athletic white kids got these though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 09:01 PM
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My high school only offered honors and AP, private school with only 20 people in the graduating class. The black kids really just happened to have the lowest gpas despite being pandered to at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:49 PM
9

How does knowing that entire segments of the population can get your same results in very important areas of life with half the effort NOT effect you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:35 PM
5

Just took all honors and AP classes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:33 PM
2

I had a 4.5 and G-Rome (legally that, not Jerome) had a 2.3
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:26 PM
15

The same reason that it pissed me off in high school when the black kid with half my gpa got the same academic scholarship I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 05:35 PM
2

Enough to where if you don't know how to act, dominance is your safest bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 03:56 PM
1

I think the ease, access, and removal of stigma from abortion is the only relevant fully feminist issue that doesn't boil down to a victim hood competition oppression Olympics among people that would rather complain than work harder. Now outside of the west there are a loooooot of issues and needs for feminism but that's a separate issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:57 PM
1

It came from years of real world experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:13 PM
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You want what's best for you. She's a slut, plate or next her. Even if you believe male and female promiscuity to be equivalent, and this make you hypocritical, it doesn't mean in any way shape or form it's still wrong (i.e. a reformed heroin junkie probably shouldn't date another one, hypocrisy is irrelevant to pragmatism). Look out for #1, why the hell would you wife down a skank. You're only throwing to the curb what countless guys have before you haha, don't worry about losing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 11:16 PM
1

Definitely stopped after that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 07:11 PM
3

All dead women are like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:29 PM
1

Most women in okc are in the age range where men are peaking though no? What 21 yr old women are on okc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:24 PM
1

Most women in okc are in the age range where men are peaking though no? What 21 yr old women are on okc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:24 PM
0

Hey if it works it works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:19 PM
1

I have a small gap between my front teeth but refuse to spend thousands of my hard earned dollars for ultimately a very minor superficial change. Do not understand the American obsession with absolutely perfect teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:09 PM
1

Yup! Edit: downvoted for not being a serial killer XD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:00 PM
2

No woman's smv ever goes up when she goes from a healthy bmi to an unhealthy one? I don't understand the need for quotations around the word evidence, no one gets more universally attractive when they get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 03:43 PM
16

I used to be the sweetest guy on earth. My first girlfriend quite literally complained I bought her too many gifts, wished that I fought back when she argued with me and shit like that. Her older sister said I treated her better than any guy ever has. She cheated on me repeatedly. She was only the second girl I had sex with and I was basically an incel all my life. One of the guys she cheated on me with was her ex that regularly beat her. Fast forward two years and after modeling myself as a Pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:59 PM
2

That's the whole premise of a mans SMV. It's a balance of looks, game, and social status, where a mild deficiency in one can be ignored if there is compensation elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:41 PM
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Because she ignored the guy wanting a relationship because he wasn't a challenge and didnt give her the tingles and instead went off and fucked a bunch of chads? Your question kinda answers itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:39 PM
2

I think it's like wealth distribution in that the difference between the say top 15% to top 5% to top 1% is absolutely mind blowing in scope. And that most people are shit poor while very few have almost everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 12:16 AM
1

Of course the feminists sites like buzzfeed are happy since the rising herds of the obese means more feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:58 PM
1

I have zero expertise in medicine or practical human anatomy and have read little to no literature in those specific fields and will admit to having absolutely no idea. Edit - if this is going into the realm of the ethics of euthanasia I say it should be legal provided there is a consensus between the family and the doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:14 AM
4

Mother Theresa was a terrible person...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:06 AM
2

What detectable quality makes life, specifically human life, different than any other smattering of molecules? Consciousness. What is the only indication of consciousness? Brain waves. What does a fetus not have until, conveniently, right around the cut off date for legal abortion where it would be considered late term? You guessed it. Argument credits to Carl Sagan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 02:04 AM
1

Because it's an embryo not a separate human life by any criteria. If it's not human who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:26 AM
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It's one of those just world vs pragmatism arguments. You experience enough of the real world and you realize that it is useful to lend credence to some stereotypes, and doing so does not make you whatever -ist word du jour the sjw crowd has in store for you. For example I think the concept of being too emotional/having no unique interests is directed at millennial women. I would agree based on observation. I think it also applies to men as well. How many men do you think have literally no hobbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 12:52 PM
3

Rumor has it Michael Bay is in the studio now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:51 PM
2

Like I already said, you can experience both validation and other negative emotions simultaneously. Once again, you may find that the negatives outweigh the positives, but this does not in any way shape or form mean you still aren't receiving validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:39 PM
3

To be honest I have never been soberly approached in a sexual context by a woman, but when I used to have a more metrosexual wardrobe I would get the occasional advance by a gay man. I'm straight as can be but did indeed find it validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:26 PM
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I didn't say validation was all they got, sure you can be both repulsed and validated at the same time. You may even argue that the negatives outweigh the positives, but the argument that there is no validation is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 05:06 PM
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But it is not analogous in the least bit. It would be analogous if it were sex instead of money. If I were to ask a woman for sex, even if she finds me unattractive, it is validating because regardless of what she thinks of me she gets the ego boost of knowing someone finds her attractive enough to mate with. I suppose I would find any sort of person asking me for money validating because even though I don't ever dole out money to beggars/gold diggers of any sort, it still makes me feel good bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:31 PM
1

I guess the hypothetical scenario requires a little more context. It is also entirely possible to feel both validation and negative emotions at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:26 PM
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Because the flipped script is supposed to get men to "realize" that unattractive men asking women for sex for nothing in return is not validating. Huge false equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:24 PM
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If any woman approached me for something over the infinite amount of other available men I would feel a validation of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:23 PM
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I feel like this is a poor attempt at a "gotcha", false equivalence when you flip the script. But the answer would still be yes I'd find it validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 04:02 PM
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No, the bottom 66% of women are invisible to the HIGHEST SMV MEN. Even a blue haired land whale can amass a huge cucknado of validation on social media and matches on tinder, just not from her ideal man. This is the difference between the uglies within genders: low value women can't get attention from the men they think they deserve, low value men simply can't get attention from women period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 01:58 PM
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At face value most women view most men as average so I think while you're right with the concept the amount of men thought to be in that grey area is extraordinary high
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 01:08 PM
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I hate the term anti-feminist in the same vein that I hate the term atheist. Any fan of Sam Harris will know this stance, along the lines of "I don't wake up and say I'm an anti-astrologist, or non-vegan". I just don't subscribe to another specific set of absurd ideas and don't think that should warrant a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 09:12 PM
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Its the self defeating cycle of inceldom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:56 PM
6

Is simultaneously thirsty as hell but entirely void of confidence with actually placed in a situation with women available in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:20 PM
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"I dated a few guys who were otherwise just like you but majoring/pursuing a career in some stem field"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 01:21 PM
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1 Base her life around social media 2 Be chock full of slut tells 3 Think she is some kind of intellectual because she reads internet articles, but never touches books
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:58 PM
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There is no rape culture, nor is there a rape hoax culture, there are just bad people. Fortunately it is easy to screen them out from a relationship standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 01:26 AM
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If she's an ardent enough feminist to make feminism a first date talking point she is probably a piece of shit regressive leftist and I don't think I could date anyone that was ideologically maladaptive. Secondly, as someone who knows enough guys that have had false rape accusations leveled on them, and having been through that waking nightmare myself, that's a no from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 11:29 PM
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Then its probably just one of many things she is interested in and if she were a firebrand psycho it will probably have shown through already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:36 PM
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If she is vocal enough about being a feminist that it becomes a forced talking point during the very start of the dating/vetting phase then it is a hard next because you already know what type of feminist she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:52 PM
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Trump pushes a dangerous form of nationalism sure, but never made a statement beginning with "as a white man" etc. Stop pushing people towards the right with that type of language.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:10 PM
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I completely agree with what you're saying but any argument from a financial standpoint to defund planned parenthood is just an attempt at masking religious bullshit and doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:29 PM
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I think there is a huge difference between saying "I believe this to be an affront on my identity" and "I believe this to be an affront on my identity and therefore you must be censored/educated/subject to penalty" If you looked in my original post I noted the left IS my side, so I'm not engaged in any I know you are but what am I nonsense. Are we all that surprised that when the progressive hive mind demonized the straight/white/male intersectional demographic that many within it may feel their…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:18 PM
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Trump never used race baiting, never lectured people on pronoun usage or lack thereof, and never took a stance on any identity of that sort. Did he play towards nationalism? Of course, but if you're running for the American president of course you should market yourself in such a way that appeals to the American identity. Tribalism will always be somewhat intertwined with any kind of major election but the identity politics nonsense is unfortunately endemic to the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:16 AM
1

Because if you're out of town celebrating something with your boys it's a great way to close the night. Idk I love hookers despite being otherwise quite successful with women. May you Rest In Peace backpage we are still mourning your passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 03:10 AM
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I agree, she is out. I'm normally not one for conspiracy theories but if there is even a grain of truth in the "Hillary has failing health" one she will for sure not run again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:54 PM
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I'm not? I'm just giving a summary of the arguments and rationale used by those I know who would, as requested by the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 11:43 PM
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I love me some hookers man, no shaming from me. The only "shaming" of the cash transaction that I have observed is if that is the ONLY way you can get laid. As in not only are you unable to get laid by conventional means, but your only leverage (no weed no car skills etc) is cold hard cash. I can understand that criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:50 PM
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But the whole linear time thing comes into play. Used to be a patriarchal society is not the same as currently a patriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:43 PM
1

This also assumes the existence of the ever elusive "patriarchy". So if it only benefits a smaller subset of men, is it really patriarchy or just "men who work really fucking hard and are workaholic jacked sociopaths tend to prosper in a material society-archy" which is a no brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 08:56 PM
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I never liked trump to begin with but I'm still happy that its not Hillary, if for no other reason than it makes the left (my party) take a long and hard look at what happens when you double down on identity politics. If it takes trump to save us from the 3rd wave feminists/black lives terrorists/college campus faggot snowflakes/islamic obscurantists then scorched earth it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 08:48 PM
2

Until Dawkins' 747 comes crashing into your argument and you realize the concept of first cause has been thoroughly debunked. Cmon even apologists avoid this one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 08:39 PM
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There are two problems with that argument. One I think you just admitted to being a flat-earther if i read that correctly...and two you can replace "God" with anything and still have the same bullshit argument. "Not if your wisdom is from Vishnu/Thor/flying spaghetti monster"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 08:19 PM
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You can believe you're being intellectually honest and use what you truly believe to be coherent logic and still come to completely absurd conclusions. See flat earth, early theories that competed with the molecular ones, blood letting, hell 100 years from now we will probably be looked back at and laughed at for how we deal with cancer treatments in that same vein. I'm not convinced that time directly correlates with progress either, but you can't seriously believe that the newfound understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:50 PM
1

Well science did kill god/gods, and Aquinas' arguments are easily debunkable. I haven't reread Aquinas in a while, but I'm presuming the arguments of his which you reference are his "5 ways", since that is the primary one of his put forward by believers. All of them end up in being a sort of "I don't live far enough in the future to explain this therefore god" sort of non sequitur or are otherwise just sophistries. It is easy to see how a man who is clearly intellectually astute could come to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:00 PM
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Aquinas has been thoroughly debunked and it was possible to follow "logic and reason" to any number of utterly absurd conclusions back in the iron age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 06:52 PM
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I think he would have changed his mind given enough time to see the more long term effects of our "intervention". I do agree with his main point though, in that the Baathist regime was fucking bat shit crazy and obscurantists trying to label it as secular had no idea what they were talking about. His view was Saddam is insane and evil and needs to be removed, and whatever happens next can't be worse, where as reality indicated he was wrong on the latter, the former is still a valid assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:49 PM
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And now that you're Christian your ability to articulate a coherent argument based on logic instead of ad hominem is out the window. You're no different than the feminists you know, both living their lives in fear of an imaginary patriarch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:41 PM
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Make a tinder/instagram/anything consisting of photos of any women that were consistently rated as 6s and they will be bombarded with attention. The end. And yeah I agree with your points in the war. That the most well read and well spoken man of the 20th century had one single controversial view on a single event does nothing in the face of the big picture of his career.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:25 PM
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And what point of his was ever pseudoscience nonsense? The only issue I could take up with him was his unwavering support for the invasion of Iraq. He surely never said anything as dumb as your non sequitor of "men think some women are average therefore average women don't get attention"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:25 PM
2

this may be the worst attempt at pseudo intellectual nonsens I've ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:56 PM
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Yeah I really don't get how OP can make that claim, then follow it with "female egos are not inflated"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:22 PM
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Her two older sisters and their group of friends did this too. They literally had validation competitions. My parents will never fully understand my sincerity when I say I refuse to date another American millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 02:42 AM
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"Modern feminism is totally about equal rights, supplicate to us because we're dangling pussy in front of you, disagree with us in the slightest capacity and we will publicly shame you as a misogynist etc" and as far as your example goes the woman in that case should be mad only if she was told to expect an outcome contrary to what happened, and the only ones espousing that would have been feminists! And you still haven't addressed the net disparity in privilege since doubling down on the causat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:56 AM
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That's why I tried to date more girls that were on he "cute" side than "hot" thinking I'd avoid that nightmare, unfortunately any woman attractive enough to be sought after enough by a remotely high smv man seems to fall prey to this. However in my travels I will not this is a problem endemic with western women and noticeably worse in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:52 AM
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Can you not be upset about externalities or unforeseen consequences? Especially if they were the result of the decisions of others only loosely tied to yourself who were a combination of ill informed at best and intentionally manipulated by self-serving actors at worst? Does your pressing of fault/cause mean that you concede that women are more privileged now, just that men for some reason don't deserve to be angry it this because they collectively contributed in some way to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:47 AM
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Yes me personally, but me personally with a sample size large enough to preclude it from being anomalous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:30 AM
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The amount of beautiful young women I have personally met who did not have absolutely absurd egos and near addiction to "likes" and other forms of meaningless validation can be counted on one hand. And in college it was quite literally my job to constantly interact with beautiful women by the thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:19 AM
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The entire socially active female population of a big state school...well yeah I agree. Most girls at the university are vapid bimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:13 AM
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The average woman, at least in my demographic 18-24 yrs old, has an absurdly inflated ego and constant barrage of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 12:08 AM
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Either you're slightly older and never been around girls that use instagram...or yeah that. My last girlfriend literally had an excel spreadsheet that kept records of how many likes she got on photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:52 PM
1

It gets interesting when you realize that children crying to get what they want is a learned means of bypassing adult rationality in order to achieve often myopic goals, and that the adults can't act in their best interests due biological and social conditioning and give the ignorant children what they want. But once again, whose "fault" it is doesn't fucking matter because the reality is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:44 PM
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You want me to say men did so bad? Okay, obviously men in various roles of power were complicit. The means in which our status quo were created have no effect on its ends. Women have been and always will be able to convince men en masse to do that which is beneficial to them at their own detriment, as I have already pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 10:53 PM
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I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance with that argument though. Abortion is legal so your personal feelings about it no longer matter and the time to argue from ethics is long past, what you have is the choice to either lose out amount A of taxpayer dollars, or amount A10 taxpayer dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:41 PM
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Because women are essentially playing life on easy mode and yet have the nerve to demand that they are owed even more, are oppressed, that males are faulty etc. Because they say they want equality but only when it benefits them and the groups that spend the most time nagging others about their privilege are actually the most privileged now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:37 PM
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I feel like the argument from the funding perspective is a bullshit attempt to try to mask the religious nonsense swirling around beneath the surface. If they were so concerned about funding, they why to they give a damn about giving $300 to perform an abortion to a low income single mother, but are completely okay with spending even more through medicaid for her checkups and birthing a candidate for recidivism, the money for it to go to school, and ultimately the money to incarcerate it and ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:35 PM
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Thats what I addressed with the tragedy of the commons analogy. Far too many men truly believe that supplicating to women will benefit them, and that if they don't do it someone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:28 PM
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Because women will never actively fight against that which benefits them, and men fall into the pitfalls of biology with a tragedy of the commons like scenario playing out. I'm not even entirely sure what a solution could be, but I am sure the first step is getting a general consensus that "hey, you know what, the pendulum swung a little too far back, and where as things have experienced a net improvement, women have it easier in most if not all walks of life now" out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:13 PM
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The lionization of single motherhood by the left is a cancer, only worsened by the right's reluctance to allow access and ease of abortion procedures to low income areas aka the ones spawning the criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:10 PM
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The source doesn't really matter as much as the existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:08 PM
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It is much cheaper to prevent the births in that demographic than pay for them later, I see the argument that some people make and I think it is ridiculous as well. Abortion saves EVERYONE money. We agree on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:10 PM
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I would be hard pressed to believe that anyone genuinely believed women had it better, and that those arguments come from more of the anger phasers/kids that don't read books type of crowd. A higher floor for physical strength isn't really the privilege nowadays that people make it out to be. If someone is going to assault you when you're walking alone at night they probably have a weapon and it doesn't matter how big you are. For all the females that say this is a legitimate grievance, why do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 04:07 PM
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But if a women keeps the child, especially in an ideal world where she has uninhibited access to healthcare subsidized abortion, is it not entirely her fault she went through with the pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:52 PM
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I agree with much of what you said. I am fully supportive of abortion rights and think abortion should remain readily accessible, made even easier, and be covered by health insurance. I'm sure we agree on this. This however has no connection with your thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:44 PM
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No, the issue stems from the fact that women now have all the same advantages as men but none of the drawbacks that "evened it out" so to speak. Women definitely used to have it worse, I don't think anyone can be intellectually honest and argue the opposite. However the reality of our current situation is more akin to "women now have all the privileges that men enjoy, in addition to their own exclusive ones". Men are rightly upset about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:19 PM
2

Everyone feels like they have irrational pressures put on them nowadays. But the net difficulty in life is far lower for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 02:21 AM
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Yeah I receive the same constant "be confident/stoic" message all guys do. I would argue that is far more difficult than the "run 3 days a week and just somewhat watch what you eat" message girls get. Its not hard not to be fucking fat. And fat shaming is great. I'm all for socialized medicine, you wanna know why its impractical? All the land whales (male and female). Fat shaming is no different than the cigarette smoker shaming that is pretty mainstream. Its bad not only for you, but everyone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 06:37 PM
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I've never in my life met a woman who didn't have a shortage of male suitors who wasn't either clinically diagnosed mentally ill (like agoraphobia levels of anxiety, actual suicide attempt depression etc.) or obese. If you are even average in the face, hit the gym a few times a week, and just don't eat like complete shit you will have sexually charged male attention available to you. Even complete plain jane looking girls can get a 1000+ tinder matches in the span of a week (I've seen my girl fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 06:32 PM
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I don't deny the existence of these things, but rather the amount of males who need some form of external assistance in sexual strategy absolutely dwarfs the amount of females that require any assistance, especially if you removed the group of females that would be fine if society had the balls to say just lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 06:20 PM
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TRP is sexual strategy. Women don't need any assistance in sexual strategy since all they require for attention and validation is their mere existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 06:07 PM
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Women already do, RP is just leveling the playing field for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 05:42 PM
3

Its not the major as much as the people drawn towards it. Same concept like why women don't want to date gamers. Its not the action but the demographic it attracts. Same reason men steer clear of vocal feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 05:47 PM
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Yeah, I have enough self respect not to want any girl that had that spend her youth and sexual prime engaging in such activity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 05:00 PM
1

This is why I just won't entertain any WESTERN woman in a serious relationship. Party girls gave away their best and you just get the leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 12:38 PM
0

High value men fuck women far below their league all the time. Its called alcohol. You've obviously never borne witnesses to a fat chick friday...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 02:16 AM
2

And savants and virtuosos and heroes...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 12:39 PM
4

You said it yourself, you personally could not understand because of upbringing/genetics/circumstances etc. Just like I can't how someone would want to murder someone outside of a self-defense scenario etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 12:36 AM
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All men are potential rapists in the same vein that all people are potential murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 08:35 PM
2

I feel like its either one partner having their cake and eating it too - either af/bb girl or harem man - or two partners that equally indulge that, while i personally find it impossible to imagine doing due to my feelings about love and relationships, at least morally defensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:21 PM
1

I don't think any positive form of self improvement or increase in awareness is negative, too little too late purely is going to be pretty subjective though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:38 AM
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You can be an attractive young woman and literally sell your virginity for hundreds of thousands if you so please. You can be an attractive young man and literally not be able to give it away. That should be enough in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:31 AM
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I feel like it varies by age: 35 and up the stigma is worse for men (playboy asshole bachelor who was too selfish and never settled down), under 30 worse for women (omg you're so pretty validation validation validation how do you not have a boyfriend)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:10 PM
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Anything that you take pride in and enjoy. Who gives a fuck about the perception of "alpha". You are not your job. You can be the most alpha school teacher if that is your calling, and you could easily be the biggest blue pill cuck ex special forces firefighter turned oil rig worker. Find what you enjoy, THEN worry about how to monetize it.
/r/askTRP27/01/17 05:20 PM
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When a girl deep down inside knows you're into her but she strings you along as an orbiter because she likes the validation; complains to you about the alphas she hooks up with and says things like "you're the type of guy I'd marry later in life" - on the flip side if it is a girl in the friend zone 99% of the time means the guy can't soberly imagine hooking up with you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 02:50 AM
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Suit and tie for work, chinos and button ups/polos for any typical outside of work funcion. I thought this was how all remotely well adjusted men dressed haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:18 AM
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happens frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 10:06 PM
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But I don't think it is. Fame as in international acclaim/facial recognition from strangers across the country is rare, but with enough work any low smv man could build a business or become a pillar of the community and become locally famous and that would be enough. For example an abject 3 man could easily bag a 6/7 with this sort of fame, and be ecstatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:22 PM
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But the man was already quite famous before that, but was far from being able to date a model. Plus a what point does one become "famous"? My point being that your typical ugly guy with a low smv can become high smv by accruing enough fame or social status etc. and thus smv is not set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:16 PM
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Nope. Take someone like Salman Rushdie. He is an intellectual hero of mine, but damn is he an ugly fat bald fucker. If he were the exact same person inside and out, but didn't have the whole fatwa international fugitive badass thing he wouldn't have been able to marry a supermodel. Your SMV is MUCH HARDER to improve if you're ugly as hell, but it is definitely not impossible and far from set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:36 PM
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Well yeah...hell go to YouTube and you can observe it happening. A lot of the good looking well to do fitness youtubers do stuff like this. Search "Connor Murphy picking up girls shirtless without saying a word". If you're attractive enough you can be half naked in an inappropriate location to be so, very creepily approach a beautiful girl, and still get her number provided you meet the criteria. If 99% of other guys did that shit he'd be a "creep"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 02:28 PM
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The topic of groping strangers is not something that comes up or is advocated at all, in any capacity. This whole idea got blown up by the whole Donald Trump grab em by the pussy thing. Its not ok to grope strangers. If you happen to be well over 6ft good looking and overflowing with cash, strange women will in fact let you grope them, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 04:43 AM
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My point was more that the dating market is so absurdly skewed that the average woman can AFFORD to be so picky as to disqualify a man because of his shoes, where as the opposite is true for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:15 PM
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I wasn't referencing you or anyone else on this thread, sorry about any confusion there. Was speaking from my own personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 02:31 PM
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Just want to emphasize that last part. Women will never understand the visceral knee jerk reaction guys get towards high N count women because they don't get them towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:41 AM
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You can have everything going for you yet have a woman who would otherwise be all about it turn you down because of your shoes. If that doesn't prove how lopsided the supply/demand for options is between the genders...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:39 AM
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Before answering the first one I would like to give the caveat that there is a difference between high and acceptable, i.e. I still probably would red flag and not date a girl even if it were below high. With that said I would say high is >9 for a girl my age - fresh out of college. It is high because even if you actually managed to lose it at 15 and date a new guy every single year (which indicates problems of its own), you still slept around. Actions that add are vaginal/anal intercourse, I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:30 AM
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I strictly watch POV-style porn regardless of the subgenre or what have you because although many things turn me on, watching other men is certainly not one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:53 PM
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I discovered this gem of a sub after the fact but if anything it has pushed me more red
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:20 PM
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I am a very active liberal who frequently volunteers and runs a nonprofit dedicated to environmental conservation. I am an atheist, and an anti-theist in the same vein as Harris/Dawkins/Hitchens in that I believe religion not only to be an obvious lie, but a pernisicous lie. I voted for Obama because my main concern was the environment. However I describe my liberalism as classical and align more with figures such as Dave Rubin and Bill Maher and disavow myself from the insanity that is 3rd wave…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 02:32 PM
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It should be treated like every other crime in that you have to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, not prove innocence. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:19 PM
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Well to reply in your same tone, I'd say you're a cuck who can't get a girl that hasn't been passed around like a blunt on 420. Most men do care but just don't voice it for various reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:11 PM
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Yes get, considering women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the ones approaching. Why would I want to commit myself in a relationship to a woman that a man of lesser value was able to nonchalantly have for a night?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:48 PM
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If anything this almost proves my point. The stereotypical silicon valley guy was the nerd that never got much female attention before falling into money and status almost overnight. And my point wasn't that women love frat bros etc. - they do ;) - but that the men who are at the top of the SMP food chain very much so are picky about your N count when it comes to serious dating
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:40 PM
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For me I've seen the opposite. The line of thinking being that if I'm high value I don't want a woman that many other men were able to get, especially if it was lesser valued men getting her for one night stands or things of that sort. It degrades my value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:12 PM
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I have one friend who consistently does things that get him laid that would land most 5/10s in prison. You would have to have autistic levels of social skill at a certain level of attractiveness to be considered a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:08 PM
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Yes too afraid to voice their disdain, not too afraid to find out to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:06 PM
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From my experience I would say that most of TRP is actually atheist/agnostic leaning and believe the world is the farthest thing from just, myself included in both of those descriptors. Men really do give two shits about how many/what type of people were inside a girl they would consider a serious relationship with. It says more about the girl than anything else could. But like I stated in the post, most men also keep it bottled up because they can't afford to voice how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 08:02 PM
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I completely agree, with the distinction that men differ as to what is HIGH. All men are offset by a high number, but what defines high varies from man to man to some extent. From my experience I would offer that the higher value a man, the less lenient he is towards a number that approaches his definition of high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:56 PM
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most actually avoid sorority girls like the plague after college because we know what they were doing - source am frat guy and keep in contact with large amounts of other greek life people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:54 PM
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One way or another guys always eventually find out. I never said guys are too afraid to ask, and for myself and all of my close friends who I've talked about this kind of stuff to the N count question is always asked when things start moving towards a relationship (and verified too if possible). Also you would be VERY VERY surprised how much cognitive dissonance a man can possess in a relationship. I'm by no means defending men who do this, I think it is idiotic, but I know very many men who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:50 PM
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I don't think being off put by a high N count woman in terms of dating is "cruel" by any means, but I agree with the notion that women are very out of the loop regarding how many guys truly feel about their past
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:45 PM
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Thats why I said more than not, as in any number >50% of men. Pro athletes are overall a small minority of men, and frankly a lot are dumb/ghetto and those are the ones dating the strippers. I don't have any stats here but I would imagine most won't end up SERIOUSLY dating, as in dating to marry, the stripper. And it is possible to be a model/actress and not be a slut, I don't see how those two are connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:36 PM
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there is no such thing as a creep, just unattractive men that have the nerve to think they could be in your league
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 07:30 PM
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My boss, a mid 30s female, just got divorced. Despite having a trust fund and being worth enough to retire at her current age and still live an upper-middle class lifestyle with no financial insecurity, she still is getting child support and other payments. These funded the party her friends set up for her after the divorce was finalized. As conceptually disgusting as it was, it was a hell of a party though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:48 PM
1

stop being nice and stop being yourself. see the jerks all the girls you have a crush on complain to you about? you'll be them in a few years and you won't regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 06:00 PM
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most likely saying "you look great" when you look like a gelatinous piece of shit, a la lena dunham
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:17 PM
1

More like for every man that thinks a woman is unattractive, there are 10 that would fuck her if no one knew. Out of those maybe one or two are of equivalent value and would date based on looks provided the rest checked out, which I feel was more the vibe you were getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 02:05 PM
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Yes, when we (classical liberals) won over the country on the issue of gay marriage rights, the amount of formal NGOs and otherwise paid individuals or entities that sprung up around that time necessitated the invention of more problems to secure the funding that they discovered was there for the taking in social issues. This is how you have people like Anita Sarkeesian making bank talking about complete bullshit in the video game industry, and once respectable media outlets pushing "manspreadin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 01:58 PM
2

You're handed endless validation, whether warranted or not, simply by virtue of being female
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 01:54 PM
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I think its bad with guys don't get me wrong, but its a whole other level of messed up with girls because they receive 24/7 validation via instagram, Facebook, the other social media, and the constant validation of interactions with most males. Its a tricky situation because the vapid land whale 3/4 REALLY believes she deserves an interesting 6/7 guy for a boyfriend, because 6 and 7 guys may occasionally fuck her when blackout or like her photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 12:35 AM
1

I was referencing the VGC generation of the games. It is essentially chess in that you have a limited amount of "pieces" in which you try to slowly whittle away at the options your opponent has and force them into moves that allow you to take out their pieces while they try to do the same to you. The "sheer number of considerations for every move" is higher in a game of pokemon VGC than chess. I have played both at a competitive level. The thought process in the VGC is literally identical to tha…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/16 10:04 PM
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I was referencing the red pill as an entity. There are an uncountable amount of hit pieces on this sub across many sites and a whole other sub dedicated to its satire. Obviously we don't have the best perceived social value by being here. You weren't addressing the content of the games I mentioned but rather the stigma, and so I turned that same style of thinking over to the red pill. On the same page there now? As far as the rest of the ad hominem there I say sure, I definitely look down on the…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/16 09:17 PM
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Well honestly the average person sucks. The average man only beds 7 or so women in his lifetime, won't break 50k a year in earnings, believes his life is controlled by a magic man in the sky, and is overweight. The whole point of this forum is to strive to be the 20 in the 80/20, or rather to rise above the average. I don't think the social value of an activity you would partake in for 30 minutes a day really matters. If we based every one of our decisions on the perceived social value that othe…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/16 06:53 PM
1

And I'm also sure that publicly broadcasting the fact that I'm currently rereading Hitchens' "god Is Not Great" would not be socially acceptable considering I'm in the bible belt. What people think of your activities has zero relation to how productive they are for you. Its also not like I tell women I play pokemon, I do it for me because I believe it to be mentally engaging and require a form of thinking that I otherwise would not be able to practice within the confines of my job, hobbies, and …
/r/TheRedPill25/12/16 06:03 PM
1

So aside from your apparent fear of being judged for what you do in your free time what do you use to back up that claim?
/r/TheRedPill25/12/16 12:59 PM
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I have a good bit of specifics in the initial post, what specifically would you like specified?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 08:50 PM
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I'm not sure they ever were. But now instead of being one type of bad, they are another type of bad, I never said they were good to begin with. But as far as this current moment in time is concerned the deck is stacked against men and as someone who literally just got out of the US education system and is heavily involved with youth in nonprofit work I can attest to its flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 08:28 PM
1

If you go back 100 years every aspect of life as we know it was also different, and both genders have their desired behavior enforced by corporal punishment, and the whole idea is really a false equivalency
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:39 PM
1

I never considered my behavior "bad" by any means. You haven't seen true bad until you've seen the epidemic of black boys from single parent homes in school. But anyways I think any behavior associated with masculinity is demonized and any with femininity is pedestalized. So it's less about direct gender and more about that above spectrum, which is why the "neuroatypical" special snowflakes complain about it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:41 PM
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New and old system? What year did you finish up school?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:11 AM
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You don't fit the typical behavior standards and probably had big pharma shove uppers down your throat, and for that my heart goes out to you. Neuroatypicality and the oppression olympics has nothing to do with this claim and you probably share the same grievances I do, and only have a female dominated education system and feminism to thank.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:02 AM
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In the context of dating or just in general? You didn't specify so I'll go off the general response. Well for the AVERAGE man it's literally everything entailed in being a second class citizen: From the moment you are born you are expected to conform to feminine behavioral standards. If you do not act like a girl in class you will be doped up on amphetamines and labeled ADHD or otherwise defective at learning. If you do not walk on eggshells with everything you say to your female classmates you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 02:51 AM
2

Well I was the nicest sweetest kid I could be who took pride in being himself, ended up friend zoned by every woman I ever had feelings for and listened to them gripe about how the bad boys treated them wrong and how they wished they were nice like me. Eventually my heart broke beyond repair and I did a 180, started acting like a complete jerk to women and have reaped success like I never thought possible. Everyone's advice was bullshit, Hollywood was bullshit, and even though i may not like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:05 PM
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Staunch atheist here, still think sluts are worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:55 PM
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I'm not seeking approval or looking to reconcile anything, Im advocating a mild dosage of video games as something positive in the face of the hard line 0 tolerance towards them often expressed here. Kind of like how alcohol is bad in excess, but a glass of dry red wine a day actually does wonders.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/16 02:47 PM
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I'm a 22 year old American, and as such have grown up in a culture that all but sings the praises of female sexual expression. Despite this, I find girls that sleep around as absolutely disgusting and worthless for relationships, and I think this is just an innate feeling. I have plenty of female friends like this, and I treat them no differently and fully support people's right to sleep around if they do choose, but I think an decisive majority of guys feel the same way I do but just won't be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 12:56 PM
1

because some drunk college girl who woke and regretted letting frat boy #5375 fuck her the previous blurry night is way different than the literal gangs of muslims that grab strangers in alleyways
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:21 AM
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Because the various surveys and studies show that n count does matter, and especially matters with women. I can also anecdotally add that women who are virgins/only did it with a select few long term boyfriends tend to be more emotionally stable, loyal, and seem to bond with their partner better. Women with a past history of 1 night stands are just worthless not only because of the cringe factor, but from an investment standpoint they are a much higher risk with a lower reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:56 PM
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I think we both agree with eachother but got a little lost there. I'm arguing against the people that say all video games in any capacity are bad. It's an untrue blanket statement that honestly some people (fat neckbeards) may need to hear, but what I'm saying is that my 30 minutes of Pokémon or Magic nestled in between my nightly reading and guitar practice I view as mental cross training and think would be beneficial in small doses for anyone looking to improve their cognitive ability. I fully…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 06:11 PM
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I feel like it is because it reminds them of what they used to be, like they associate it with the old loser beta them in high school before they unplugged because of the strong association between gaming and certain behavioral patterns around women. God knows I played the unproductive time sink bullshit back before my college Chad transformation.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 06:05 PM
1

Well for one I think realizing ones hypocrisy is good for personal growth and introspection, but that aside you wouldn't say that because an overwhelming majority of published books are abject garbage that all books are a waste of time. Same with video games, of course in moderation.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 05:54 PM
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Of course, nothing taken to any life consuming extreme is healthy. My point was to say that to paint all games with the broad brushstroke of "unproductive" is incorrect at best since there are some that require much critical thought and calculated thinking, and flagrantly hypocritical at worst because it is for the most part done by men that will waste a significant portion of the lives obsessing over things like sporting events that offer the same mind numbing entertainment with no practical ap…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 05:49 PM
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Like I said I agree that most are, but I don't think anyone would sit here and say that playing someone in chess would necessarily be unproductive. I don't see how moving the board on a computer and reskinning it puts the player in the 9th circle of red pill hell, especially when the ones critical of it will sit around and literally turn off their brain watching football all Sunday etc. I just wanted to point out the cognitive dissonance there.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 05:39 PM
1

Some girls look fine with short hair, but no girl looks BETTER with short hair than they would with long hair
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 03:31 AM
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The more alpha you are = a higher % chance of positive outcomes with female interaction. There is no magic level of alpha that pushes that % to 100. Everyone from kings to celebrities have unfortunately experienced this firsthand.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 08:02 PM
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is it that masculinity leads to mental illness or that mental illness leads to things society likes to attribute to masculinity but in these cases is entirely unrelated (i.e. aggression, manic behavior, etc that stems from garden variety common mental ailments)
/r/TheRedPill23/11/16 03:08 AM
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This is exactly what happened to me at 18. I will offer you a warning man even though you still are a man, hormones and psychology are still extant influences and going from never even kissed a girl to no longer a virgin turned me into the biggest blue pill loser for the girl. Tried to date her, got used and abused and acted the human door mat. From someone who went 0 to 100 as yourself I would honestly advise cutting her off and repeating a time or two before spinning plates.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 02:38 AM
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