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Idk man, girls can sometimes play the maybe game very well, and provide some scraps so you don't run away. Like it's weird really, hard to gauge situation...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:20 AM
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It is very common to instead of just cutting short, girls pretend for a variety of reasons. Like ifood-calls, free gifts, ego booster, etc. Lots of women rather not throw benefits or maybe's away, they can roll with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:07 AM
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It is only work because girls are rarely reciprocate, not to say rarely nice in the sense of also try to make you feel good. It is only work because the other party isn't/doesn't want to do their part, like it is this simple. If girls either just said no, or did some dating back themselves, none of this would be a big issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:20 AM
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Exactly how i "fixed" it, i however did reduce my success amounts significantly. It's good when it works but it's even rarer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:08 PM
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Yeah, very shitty situation for all parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:07 PM
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Biology and sexuality, can't run away from your own feelings and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:37 PM
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Sure, i get your point, this is what you can do in this situation, it's stoic in a sense. The problem is that if 99/100 dates are like this, it gets to you eventually. We aren't perfectly rational beings, stuff like this does tilt you in a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:52 PM
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If you do that you also don't get what most look for. Connection, love, lust maybe, partnership, trust, and a shoulder to rely on, kill the loneliness, etc. At this point hookers are more efficient and the dating game is broken. Like it makes no longer sense if it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:46 PM
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I mean, you have to go on a date to see it happen. And even if you just leave, you yet again went on a date that sucked, that gets to you over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:46 PM
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Male dates i mean. Me liking then is not always reciprocal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:36 PM
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Thanks for saying what i would!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:35 PM
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I mean, the issue is men want to look for reciprocity, love, partnership, camaraderie, and ultimately support. Most girls just passively absorb a guys efforts and put out sometimes so he doesn't give up. Those girls are basically prostitutes in my eyes. And the "work" is dealing with all of those hooker LARPers, while trying to find a decent girl, and unfortunately, you can't know at first glance, so you have to gamble. I would move mountains for a girl that would do the same for me, but i have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:50 PM
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Idk man, it is present in maslow's pyramid, only higher than absolute basics. So i guess life without it s very miserable isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:43 PM
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Yeah sure but if you are rarely getting payback and hate the work, it is hardly worth it, irrelevant to if others will or not. Btw the amount of work is not relative to the rewards. If you only take sex into account, how much do you work for having 50$ in your pocket, this is 1 hour with a hot girl here in brazil, if i only want sex, a girl has to be either hotter or cheaper, else it makes no sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:41 PM
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Yeah, that has no value to me since i am not looking for having children, nor in need of a house maid. All i'm saying is that it is very bad to ones self esteem to always be on the driver's seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:37 PM
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Think for a second, isn't that the literal reality most women live in? Not literally put out, but even just suggesting that i should go to X place with her/invite me somewhere is already too much. Sure instant pussy would be nice, but making the first move SOMETIMES is more than enough. Bro i am not a human doing, i like some attention sometimes ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:36 PM
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Most of our dates are bad dates, like 90% of the LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:29 PM
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Sometimes (most times), guys really just want to have something casual with a hot girl. But yeah it is unsurmournably hard to do that, without doing some faking, it seems girls aren't into that at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:25 PM
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Brazil, also known as Bostil We like the country as in the place it self, it is a paradise, but inhabited by the worst most scummy people you could know. We have no sense of unity so this place is a backstabbing fest with people only looking after their own asses, because everyone is deep in the shit. From politician to beggar, everyone will backstab in a chance to get some better life even if a little bit. Everyone is very poor and works too much, so anything goes for the money here. Top countr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:23 PM
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For men in general too, most men just accept the suffering part and somehow learn to enjoy it. Those are usually the hotter guys that get results more often than not, if you have a bad record it becomes very annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:19 PM
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Or you are more likely than not, not very attractive, so the girl is also not very interested. And even if she is, she is used to you doing 90% of the leg work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:18 PM
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Maybe not intense, but certainly high stress. You need to talk to a feel different people, keep the parallel interactions secret, you also need to remember everything from other dates previous, you need to run game. You are also tired of doing all of that and just want to for once not do any of that but that means another guy is willing to do more effort. I am also competing with hotter guys (there is always a bigger fish, said qui-gon), so i must make a differential. If i finally score a girl, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:17 PM
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If you aren't it's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:11 PM
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Just stop OLD, it is one big ass scam. Do it IRL instead and let match group go bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:10 PM
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Yeah this might be a good approach!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:09 PM
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On point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:09 PM
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The deal is that 99% of the time you are doing voluntary work, with no payment whatsoever. Work is one thing, working without pay is a form of slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:09 PM
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Staying home doesn't help even if getting laid is the only goal. If men want something they are forced to gamble in this game, you can't possibly know if a girl likes you before you meet so you need to keep expectations at a a minimum. Men need to do this because more likely than not he can't afford to wait, girls he is turbo into so is every other guy, so he must be strategic, even if it sucks! Like at the end of the day men get what they can and usually it's not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:08 PM
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I really don't think the dimension is the same. Sure it all helps, but makeup and short clothing works wonders for women, also making herself easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:05 PM
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The thing is, most guys have been there done that a million times with dates that didn't amount to anything 99% of the time. Most of the times girls who are attractive know ir and just play turbo passive, so you feel like doing 99% of the effort on a date, it feels very much like you are trying to convince a client to buying your products. Which feels like shit, when what most men want is to feel worth it and liked/loved, not someone who is "at service" of the princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:03 PM
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You were looking to settle down. As i don't like being in exclusive relationships, (i tried, i really did), i am forever stuck in this cycle. I can get the gym part, but i don't live in the US, getting your money up in a third world country is not a dating goal, it's survival, it's beyond impossible, people work until they are like 50/60 to have any stability. Money works here because girls can skip this lifelong grind by dating, men actually lose by dating in this scenario. Now if this isn't en…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:47 PM
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Actually it's more about SOMETIMES, i get asked out/invited places. Never happened to me that i introduced myself to a girl and she herself suggested something. Or like a girl declines a plan but offers something else!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:33 PM
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You rarely get anything back from the effort, rewards don't match the payment. I am not doing heart surgery for minimum wage, no way!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:31 PM
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You are correct, i said nothing of that. What i tried to say is that dating is an unrewarding ungrateful work, but you are kind of forced into it. 99% of girls won't give you a good date, or even try, but you need to do it because else you won't find the 1% It's a forced gambling situation!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:28 PM
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More like intense, high stress, unpaid voluntary work. But yes you are on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:25 PM
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Well we already know it's very hard to get that, so men need to work with what they have sadly. Getting super high interest, especially for casual relationships is very hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:16 PM
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I think the big deal with you here was that you had a choice. If men could take a weekend to take a vacation where he played passive for a while, most would be satisfied. Always active doesn't feel reciprocal, also gay relationships is a whole different game, it is closer to men's EXP but still quite far. I don't get you ever needed to make sure you weren't an axe murderer before even saying hi on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:14 PM
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You 90% are guaranteed shit. Humans are lawnmowers, we can eat basically anything, with a large enough group hunt every single animal in existance. Humans are monsters man, they will destroy entire biomes before starving. We can eat bunnies and elephants all the same, hardly any human tribes starve. Worldwide hunger is mostly caused by human interacrions Dumb ass take to be fair!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:08 PM
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Bro if men only looked for sex they would likely just hire. Men want to feel loved and desired, bedroom fun is not that fun if you are the only one playing the game, it becomes an exercise in masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:05 PM
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You must be kidding if you think this could possibly make any difference fr. If a guy if fat to that point there is little saving. Like FR imagine how weird women would feel if you manage to take them to a hotel? And you took that thing off?? Men have normalized it, women REALLY DON'T
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:06 AM
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You can however just ask a friend/hire it, like it's not that hard, you can buy that service instantly, or just get it for free. You can't really buy muscles instantly (you can buy protein powder/PEDs, but that is not instant and also dangerous). Men can't escape the grind lile women can!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:42 AM
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Woman aren't required commitment to put a makeup on and be better for it. You can't go to the gym for a month even and expect anything to change!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:04 AM
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I mean, show biceps only works if you have great biceps/work out a lot, shirt trick is legit. I don't get the last part at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:03 AM
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Yeah i can get the appeal, for me personally is a big no no. I have a medium mullet, very skinny, with long ass face, i have strabismus so my eyearea is terrible, so i basically try to draw attention away from my eyes. So long ass hair, glasses that hide it well, possibly sunglasses, and have large hair to draw attention away from eye area, nice beard too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:01 AM
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Compared to a guy who trains every weekday, thats 5/7 days of the year AKA commiting to doing something every day for that time. Besides, women get immediate results in 1 hour, men get results after many months of doing a 1 hour commitment in the gym + nutrition, this required way more discipline and focus, not to say willpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:38 AM
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Yeah but when a woman spends that hour she gets instantly better for it. For men in your example they need to commit to it to only MAYBE in the end get their reward. Women get their results immediately, men need to commit for long periods of time, hoping for payback, all while mantaining discipline. Women can just say fuck it on a weekend, or do it everyday. Men are required to stick to the plan for results, time is a requirement. Women can choose and pick when they need the boost, and do that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:36 AM
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Yes, better be born again in this case, hopefully with a competent mom!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:33 AM
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I don't even know what that could possibly be. If it is what i am thinking it is widely considered very fucking gay af here where i live.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:32 AM
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Yeah i've seen so much counter evidence, straight up mysoginists with many women. Like not wiping your ass is too much, but yeah being hot can make you get away with a lot of shitty stuff. Being nice is a good bonus for real!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:26 AM
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Bro wtf on first paragraph, like fr wtf. Like this extent is just gross, bizarre stuff. But yeah, somehow i think none of that matters at first stages of attraction, so a hot guy with shit in his ass usually beats a clean dork. And well, all of us rather be the hot guy than the dork, cleaniness aside, the deal is we just want attention, to feel ultimately high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:16 AM
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I mean, i bet this is much rarer on women. Anyway, making yourself easy and dolled up is ALMOST surefire for women, and ALMOST irrelevant for men... Men are much more lenient on the easy ones. Women won't take it even for free sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:06 AM
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Idk man, i have yet to see a guy who doesn't like that for real. Maybe not dating, but for today most say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:36 PM
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I don't think merely changing to more stylish clothes has the same impact between the genres. Like a guy getting a suit is different from a girl wearing a bodysuit, the girl has much more impact. You aren't wrong, but men don't go from zero to hero like some girls can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:30 PM
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I mean sometimes you just need a lot of loving for a day to teach you that you can, getting flirted and hit on everyday can be too much. Just take attractive girls for example, they get too much attention. Medium girls can better control the attention they get!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:25 PM
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I mean, you must add an moderately attractive face and a good build to be super hot. The thing is, being a maybe for women is easy, being a "yes, definitely" is much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:23 PM
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Provided paid makeup services in the past, as in advice or actually do makeup. That is my definition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:15 PM
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Lesa than 2 hours at max, sometimes 3. My girl is a pro so in 40min/1hour she is ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:45 PM
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The other commenter said it already, all these girls need is to get better at doing said makeup and maybe go for a class, like no joke. I saw a girl who was professional at makeup, most "tutorials" aren't helpful because they aren't tailored to their faces, simple as that. Like girls with round faces shouldn't make use of any makeup that further widens their face unless they did something previously that straightens it. Similar to how not all guys look good on suits, too skinny or too fat, no ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:38 PM
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I mean the deal is that men would greatly benefit from the self esteem bonus they mostly need, from feeling hot for a day, they can internalize the belief they are indeed attractive, and that helps with approach anxiety!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:32 PM
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Wait, that's basically me at raves, minus the makeup and plus dirt/mud, but that's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:30 PM
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This style is not universal at all. Like these 2 styles don't fit every ambient, are you really showing up in an underground rave in a suit?, to a daytime uni class on a hot day in leather?, like sure style matters but it's very complex, for women too but they have many more options. I usually wear normal, but at parties i am shirtless and on shorts, possibly full of mud and extremely drugged, and sometimes i pull, vibes are king, and clothing helps with that. If it's cold i just wear bandanas, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:53 PM
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I am the OP, so for real, can you think about something that can get a chubby (not really obese) 5'6 janitor laid. Because i can tell you what can get that same person but she being female laid, like i can fr. A guy however, i can't help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:27 PM
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It is quicker than putting muscle and keeping, having money and status. I'm seeing a pro makeup girl, i learned a lot about this shit. Like it isn't super easy, but once you know it it's quick, and doesn't take much time. Men HAD that luxury in the past, nowadays women can choose and it became harder, all we knew is get job and house and a wife will come, most boys are so ill equipped that even take shower/cut hair is news to them. The thing is, what women typically want is very hard to achieve …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:10 PM
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Young kids preach for 6ft, but IRL people barely notice. What people notice is X%+some wiggle room taller than me/you/my boyfriend/dad/someone else, absolutes don't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:07 PM
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I mean sure, it doesn't really cost that much to try. However i would say it is 90% of the times negligible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:05 PM
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Nah man, a few centimeters of bone in his face can make him good looking even if short. Being fit certainly helps, it isn't a cheat code tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:04 PM
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But nowadays it still works to make it much easier to get laid. Most men having no idea what makeup is capable also doesn't help, "natural looking" is turbo fake. Like you aren't wrong but i ain't too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:03 PM
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I mean this is all correct, and i agree with you. I stay simple and i jam with that, just jeans and my checkers shirts, i have all colours! However this isn't instant fix for most men, you can't really just show up in a party like this and expect to go from zero to hero. The thing is, women can skip most self improvement by doing these things and get their fix of care and attention. Men still need good game, cultivate a hot body, and have some powerplay (money and status). You aren't wrong, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:51 PM
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Like all they want is to minimize the pain of rejection, like we all do. At one point you want to change your 1% chance of getting something romantic out of your interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:10 PM
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Chad face doesn't require grind, like you can look hot without being tall. Like tom cruise is short but he is chad af, especially young tom cruise. But if he was taller it would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:08 PM
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Enh man, maybe in the US, most guys in brazil are moderately fit, very few are turbo fat. And to be someone who gets more yes than no as an answer it's not there. Fitness takes a few years, makeup takes a few hours. Makeup can make very plain girls look gorgeous, fitness can't fix an ugly face that hard, nor does it make you 6ft or high profile. I agree that it's the best tool men have though, this is simply true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:07 PM
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I don't believe they really help that much? Like most drunk girls won't notice unless he is super short. Makeup can do some miracles and short clothing is an universal hack, it doesn't come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:03 PM
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I mean i agree with you, but isn't the post CMV? Anyway you are on point, we can't play that game very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:02 PM
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That makes no sense with anything that i've said. All i said is that women have many ways of BECOME HOT NOW, even if it's temporary. In a pinch or when her self esteem is low or she just needs to fuck, she has options to do that. Men can't just wake up and say FUCK IT I NEED TO BE WITH SOMEONE, that requires way more dedication and work than women require for the same "i just need a warm hug" they are looking for. It's very easy for women to get some loving, not ony the sex but the caring and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:58 PM
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The thing is, most man want to feel desired, cared for, belong with the other person, and feel the same "romanticism" they try to provide to women. Men wouldn't care to approach, if interested women would totally reciprocate his efforts, they would totally love to approach. The thing is most of the time men do 90% of the initiation, and rarely women initiate back, even in some relationships. I will give a very crude example, if a man saves a bit, makes time, prepares, set things up, buy flowers,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:52 PM
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Honestly, i don't see much difference in general, i am from brazil and although groups do exist, people will adopt you or just interact normally if you are chill. I usually hang only 20min, half an hour at max to not kill the group, but i just present myself, greet, ask if i can join for a little bit, and exchange socials when i am about to leave! Like if you respect PLUR, avoid touching people, and just try to mingle quick, and just dodge if the people aren't feeling it, if you are respectful y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:30 PM
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LOL, guys forget the meet part. They flirt first and meet later.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:23 PM
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Always single, that's my jam😎 But FR i don't do full randoms, i think chasing maybe's is a waste of time. Like i really don't understand why men find it so hard to understand that Men are boring, boys are the real deal, incel guys trying to "man" up, when they should be trying to go full retard boy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:21 PM
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Being bad at lying is always bad, lying to people you like is shitty, lying to protect you and others from shitty people is not. He can't defuse situations, socially protect his girl/friends, get what he needs when he needs from others. Like always lying is bad, but autistic people are so bad at lying they fuck up at work, friendships, family, because they fail at even at least sugarcoating the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:49 PM
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I think the deal with ND people in general, is that trying to act NT and do the same thing is a dumb move. Like you should try to find completely different way of doing it than what NT people do because you aren't one of them, the deal is that, in the end, you must adapt to better suit your bonuses rather than fix your flaws. Only think i know that actually help neurodivergent people fill more normal for a while, "medication wise", is MDMA and Good strong mostly THC weed, or extract.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:46 PM
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Ah i think that this is why maybe it is a strategy issue or venue issue. If you want to talk and actually interact with people, the very front is the worst place! You are looking at backstage, food area, rest places, smoking areas, people at the front want to dance and listen to the bass, not really mingle. Maybe at the parties you go, but raves and parties are great to just talk and meet weird randoms, lots of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:52 PM
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The only thing i see here is women being totally not trusting of their boyfriends. It is a shitty situation for both sides, isolating your partner from his friend's group is manipulative and undermine his support structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 11:18 AM
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You mean frat parties and the like, yeahhh they attract the mostly wrong kind of crowd for me. Try a midsized EDM event, be it hardstyle, dubstep, and king of all psytrance, seems the US is lacking in a trance scene unfortunately. I mean there is also a lot of hidden factors i can't possibly explain, the deal is you can probably work it out yourself. The premisse is the only way to increase your odds at playing dice is to roll more dice, so you kind of need to get out there, the trick it to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:25 AM
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I mean if you are actually butt ugly it can be the case, i figure that the amount of guys claiming to be butt ugly can't possibly all actually be true, most are Larpers. It took me 5 months to find someone i see regularly, like you gotta insist on it because even if you lose it can pay itself back by just enjoying the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:21 AM
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So, the thing that must be clear here is: 1. You don't like the junkies being around 2. You don't like the junkies interacting with you 3. You don't like the drugs themselves and hate it by osmosis. 1 and 2 you can really dodge with basic social skills, 3 is tough. Like you may not realize but you are around junkies all the time, a lot of junkies are just normal people without their gear on, clothing and chemical. Ever went to a hospital?, restaurant?, full of junkies too, it is just a normal pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:18 AM
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You only lose if you focus solely on getting laid. One trick i do is always talk to the guys first, unfortunately disarming people is required because "every guy just wants free pussy", you then just be friendly and watch for OBVIOUS signals, like grabbing your hand or leaning in very heavily. And just make contacts, social proof is a very good to rely on, it is solid once you know enough people, overall making 10 friends is still better than getting absolutely nothing by not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:38 PM
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Most party sex happens after the party anyway, and if you do a good job in between parties LOL. The social networking i think is king to get sustainable and avoid rolling dice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:09 PM
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No women make great friends, and honestly i like my female friends alot too i value intersex platonic relationships. They can help you out in many subtle ways direct and indirect! Like a "no" women isn't always lost time, the best way i find to handle approaches is trying to get the most of them in all ways. Sure i might only hit 1% of my approaches for sex, but i hit like 30/40% for platonic or aquaintances, i am honestly getting a lot out of it, and possibly improving future odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:06 PM
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You don't need to fuck on sight man, desperation is anathema not only to women but to all kinds of success. Just say high, make friends, vibe together, tell about yourself and hear back and HEAR FOR REAL. The world is a small place, even if you didn't exchange socials, you will bump into them. Being liked is very, very hot, and if shit goes south, you have an army behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:52 PM
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Oh no the deal is that the act of sex itself is vastly varied depending on your state of mind. Booze gets you more physically impulsive so in bed you become a bit more dominant, or make you completely tired and basically all slow and tired. Weed can reduce refractory period and kind of grounded, you slow a bit down and feel stuff a bit more. MDMA is LIKE THE MOST WONDERFUL SEX EVER, every touch to your skin feels like a micro orgasm and the amount of love and connection you can achieve is yet un…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:49 PM
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You meet at party first, get to know them later. Think more carefully, the deal with the party is the comemorative mingling vibe at it's core, it's dance around the fire. Book club reunion, church meetings, art exposition, all are kind of a party of sorts, you are there celebrating something in the end, you can apply the literal same concepts in these places. Practice PLUR, enjoy whatever together, and start building your crew. Who knows, maybe after sometime you will find yourself at a "party" …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:24 PM
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Well, Fortune favours the bold! But yeah molly is the ultimate social glue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:18 PM
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I mean this is where i would actually say the following, majority of ravegirls i got with were recurrent girls i knew in previous parties, only once or twice complete strangers. Really random girls are super hard for me, however, i do expand my social circle anyway and that eventually catches some fish, and i do refuse shitty over demanding girls. That said i am indeed very prosocial and extroverted, so it does come naturally to me sort of to just be kinda flirty with people! Not trying to sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:35 PM
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Yeah man fucking while on drugs is incredible, will follow your advice! LOL. Tbh you are 100% right, the relationships are as fluid as they came in, that is a problem fr. However the secret of relationships at parties is starting from scratch, friends first, maybe's later, relationship last, the dumb part is mostly men try to "lock down" his success by dating a girl he kissed two times, that is dumb af. Better know eachother first then work something out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:00 PM
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I mean most girls are if you skip timing, it's just some girls make out with most guys eventually, and some do it in a span of 10 hours. And well if you kinda keep in touch/are a regular, most of these girls are friendly at least and won't talk ill on you, in fact the opposite if you did a good job LOL. What your case seems to suggest me is that you don't bite safe bullets enough. Girls who kinda know you already, and by being know as an overly polite but proactive guy, is better than being a ul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:50 AM
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To answer 1. This pure dumb shit, just play the neutral game and strike when the iron is hot, like red glowing hot, or the girl is really your total Jam. 2. You will win in most scenarios if you consider other good things, enjoy good music, make new friends, get fucked up and see flying pigs (don't do FlyPig that shit is evil) 3. Exactly my point, chad can go full caveman and pick a random girl and carry her on his shoulder to bed no words spoken, you mere mortal, abide to different rules. 4. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:39 AM
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Man i literally have a crooked eye, broken glasses, skinny to the point i can get into the keyhole (not the k hole, not my jam LOL), socially awkward af, and kinda noodly body language. This year alone i saw like 3-4 different girls more than once, all at parties. You must be unaware of parties with different flavours, people on alcohol get agressive, like mentally agressive, try going to a rave or techno club with people doing other stuff and see how the vibe shifts. Molly girls kinda will give…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:22 AM
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I mean you have nothing to lose by keeping trying because overwhelmingly the experience will be positive. Also you guys think you can be Chad and just start flirting right away, the optimal path is to begin friendly and actually just ask the questions a bit later, straight up, no need to be ambiguous, it's not about being subjective, the hard part is not putting pressure to comply on the girl. The kind of the deal "Ya know if you want it i kinda do, but if you don't we chill" kinda talking, like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:18 AM
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Oh no we just call that Harm Reduction here LOL. The deal is this taking care of others is part Unity and part Love. The responsibility part comes when you don't give candy to the gremlims, and actually stop people from doing stupid shit they will regret. "Like no Johnny, don't tattoo a dick in your forehead, let's wait for your candyflip to end before doing that shall we".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:00 AM
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And the deal is, a party is basically a brute force therapy you pay for. And if you like the music then it is an always win scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:52 AM
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And actually friends. A bit of a history lesson here, but MDMA was first looked at by some militaries US included, as all new stuff is, and it's first use was actually as a truth serum. People don't really think about but it feels like a slog to lie on xtc, and that translates to, deep down, if a girl says "hey honey, i kinda like you hihi", you can bet some safe cash on it being exactly what crossed her mind when she said it. Thinking out loud can be problematic but 99% of the time is a life sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:51 AM
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Oh shit i actually never heard anyone say that last part, maybe because here in brazil that last part is anathema to the culture LOL. But yeah thanks for the info, agree wholeheartedly, and also sorry for the judgement, we are on PPD after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:47 AM
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I believe it is much more simple than that, it is just about realizing people 90% can't really hurt you, and 99.9% of the time they don't want to, the deal taking action always. Shitty actions conclude that you failed, not taking action will rot your mind with maybe's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:34 AM
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Tf, what is the joke here i really don't get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:26 AM
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Party deserts? I hear people were still raving even when the venue/town/way home was literally falling apart around them. Anywhere there are parties, some severely more than other by gigantic orders of magnitude LOL. And yeah coke is so great man, you snort some and you get that wonderful wish of snorting some more, cyclically, not my Jam, it is after all an emergency button.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:11 AM
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I mean yes and no. By meeting and doing partying women might start associating you with fun and that helps a lot. Chad doesn't need a party because he is Chad, Chad can get laid at funerals, we best start deviating as using Chad as a comparison similarly to how we can't really understand how the price of food affects elon musk's daily meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:08 AM
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No the thing is, at a good party, where PLUR is practiced, he might just be called off gently first, the humiliation is actually shame. It's only expensive at first, you will get invited to some much cheaper yet questionable gatherings pretty quickly. And in the end, only by doing the motion a few times and getting experienced on the most cushioned enviroment you possibly can. The organizers are sworn to guard everyone inside, even shitty people, so rarely fights and actual name calling happen, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:05 AM
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Nah i was actually hoping for someone to try and dismantle this, but i honestly believe it is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:59 AM
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If you can prove that their lives will be objectively better if they do go, like actually prove it, and they still don't go? That's called you don't actually want any of that,you are drum rolls A COSPLAYER, A POSER, LARPLORD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:36 AM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:33 AM
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Always remember the golden rule of R/drugs The correct way to administer all drugs is by boofing, it's law!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:12 AM
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The place will grind your social skills quickly, nothing like getting into any drug to make an otherwise socially inept nerd to become the next slim shady, wolf of wall street, casanova, if he can get a few dollars discount on that weed LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:11 AM
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The problem with needles is that they are dirty and likely contaminated. There is a large amount of nurses and doctors who are junkies, i am currently seeing a nurse. She literally offered to inject shit for me. However i am terrified of needles, and i rather not go into crybaby mode, i will go from her top man to her most pathetic child very fast. Just test your stuff and be safe, cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:09 AM
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You are doing it the wrong way tbh. I think the surefire way is to just get to know people first, and let the escalating part be done after or at a future party. Obviously go for the easy pickings if they show themselves. People avoid alcohol when other shit is available because alcohol is not always the best party flavour. I prefer personally doing xtc+weed/cigarettes, it fits my goals much better, since my issue isn't really anxiety but social phobia, and well, you can only know peace and love…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:48 AM
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Sure but you can't REALLY tell it perfectly. It all becomes in the end a game of Poker, where you play by statistics and sometimes gamble. She bets her time and sexual access, and a guy bets also his time and probably money and status. And well, when stakes and risk is high most people don't think it's worth rolling the dice. Like sure, imagine you flirt at your job/school, 80% of the time nothing happens, but 10% of the time you get laid, and the other 10% you get fired/ostracized.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:42 AM
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Men usually did most of that during the entire human history to, unsurprisingly: Kill other men, and take their women for them, it is shockingly common. Hell even the amount of men in the armed forces that end up meeting someone on deployment is large, so you are in fact kind of right. Biggest motivator to war and bloodshed was women for most boots on the grounds. Why take an entitled wife at home if a woman in need of a husband just got her old one killed, by you most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:33 PM
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Normal people fuck as a normative part of life. Like people primary goal after survival is usually fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:19 AM
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These people are totally not the norm, their virginity is irrelevant to their lives as a whole. The average virgin isnt jesus christ and cant aspire to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 05:58 PM
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Surviving is not living, if there isn't really good reasoning and purpose behind said celibacy most go crazy. Why do you think priest prey on the little kids so much, since the dawn of time. Sure you won't die, but biology will torture you into breeding one way or another, and punish you for failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:50 PM
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The damage to ones mind might be significant to cross the border between living and surviving. Sure he won't have a heart attack, but it will most certainly be a sad uneventful life, which also stands no legacy because he likely doesn't have kids either, so no heritage. In the end yes you can survive, but the depression/mental health issues will rot your mind, making you a husk of a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:47 PM
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The thing is martial arts is not actually about truth but belief nowadays. Sure muay thay can beat tae kwon do in a fight, but realistically none of them matter because knife/gun/big guy/group all trample over all of that. Martial arts is only useful to boost confidence in small scale situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:49 PM
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Because by evolution, the following rule is basic. "The better adapted tend to successfully reproduce and their offspring is better tailored to deal with the enviroment we live in" So the evolution happening is most of the men that are struggling will fail to reproduce and die off, while the "chads" or just men who manage to get women and children, will have genetic future. So those men may adapt and do as you suggest, but they will never truly like it, nor it will ever be the norm, simply becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:34 PM
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Like bro, wtf. Tae kwon do can def hurt people a lot LOL. And in the end if you go by that argument, i much rather have a concealed carry license, doubt you can beat me in a fight if i have a big iron LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:59 PM
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Even filtering for good options women have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:02 AM
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Technically yes. But women have a lot more options on average than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:55 AM
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Only men with practical choice can. If he dreads loneliness so much and can't pick and choose his company, i don't believe you can say that's love. All they can do is learn to love something they initially didn't and that's tricky!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:30 PM
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Most men rather have that than no one. It would be easier if sex and intimacy even among friends was more available to men. But men sometimes just need a warm hug and someone to tell them it will be okay. So they may non-optimally do it with someone they aren't so adamant about!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:25 PM
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If you don't have leverage you can't possibly love someone. A starving person will take any food they can get even if it tastes horribly. Similarly, most men will take whatever they can even if she is terrible. Haven't you heard of people learning to love each other?, that's only a thing because they can't have what they actually love, so they force themselves to love what they can have. It's like toxic gratitude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:01 PM
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Maybe he catches a hot girl in rough patch of life, needy, or for any other reason just is down to try something with this not so attractive guy. It is like the lottery, sure wasting X dollars in a ticket may not be very good, but it is uncalculably higher than not having any. So an ugly guy insisting on only going after hot girls, is playing a losing game, but if he just tries once in a while seeing if he is lucky, he doesn't really have much to lose. He only loses if he stops also giving atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:28 PM
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Sure but that ain't easy and taxes our brains a lot, which is a ya know, stressor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:06 AM
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It's not about hurting people, it's about capacity to act when required even if it means hurting people. Hate him as much as you want, "a monster who can control his aggression is a good man, being incapable of harm doesn't mean you are good, it means you are just weak." Not exact words, but it flies. Also violence and physicality seems to rarely cross women's minds, but men tend to deal with it daily more often, so we are always aware of aggressive body language and take shit seriously. Like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:10 AM
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Not only of he, drum rollss, gaslight her into oblivion! Like an insecure guy afraid of losing his affection source is very likely to do this, just keep her under the shadow, and by undermining her mental structure, slowly position himself as her only lord and savior. How do i know this?, i was this guy in the past shamefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:02 AM
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Or chopping other men's head's off, it works the same way. Imagine more tragically, all our ancestors that bred came from the guy who ultimately won the dating game, even if it meant chopping wood. You like big strong powerful men because he is just like your male ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:54 PM
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The lizard brain go is "me show big and strong, other men see scary, me keep me girl". Like showing muscles is more a show of power than beauty, like he liking other girls is less important than scaring other men. In a primal way, it is easier to get rid of other men than to make every girl like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:48 PM
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A very small minority i would guess. Like not literally a virgin, sure, but absolutely ran through, neighbourhood snack?, yeah not that much. The thing is most men will go out with these girls, just as long as no one knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:44 PM
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It's relevant sure, but not well used by this sub. Like the einstein's here can make a sound argument sound like dogshit because of bad usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:42 PM
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Honestly i believe this the final issue. Besides that a promiscuous women will usually end up wielding a lot more power in the relationship with an average bro. Like who is the "lucky one" who needs to work to keep his "prize" in this scenario. Not only about confidence but also you know, actual quality to keep said woman sated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:38 PM
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The truth tbh is that the girl who had more partners has more knowledge of the possible guys she can get. In the end the more she knows what is available the worse men find it because she is more likely to realize he is dogshit. Also the evo psych explanation but you already read that one here a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:35 PM
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Every public party to be honest, but at least in the psytrance scene here guys know to take no's as no's. Guys don't even try that much because if you push yourself and a girl screams you are either getting kicked out, absolutely mauled, and if there are dealers around possibly killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:09 PM
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Because of children that don't know how to behave, all men pay the price, because one can't just take the compliment graciously, we all end up dry cus girls are scared. On the self esteem, it is multi parted. For argument let's say self esteem has a internal and external component. If you only have the internal part, you are delusional, not in tune with reality. If you only have the external part, you likely have issues like depression, paranoia, etc., mental/internal problems. If you have neith…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:28 PM
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Self esteem is partially derived by exterior confirmation so this is expected. And honestly, when people make stupid comments or make mistakes, i find that it is best to burn these problems at the root. If someone makes you a compliment that is not welcome or insulting, you should call it out cleverly that it was not okay and too far, and then act normal. Now if behaviour repeats after that then you have a problem. Sometimes all it takes is the balls to tell someone they are doing shit that's wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:08 PM
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I mean this is your opinion/preference, i can't possibly reply to this other than, if it suits you, then go for it. I seen girls on both sides of this opinion, who like or don't like compliments. The catch here is people who are your friends should be aware of your boundaries!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:31 PM
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Strangers no, but girls from friends, RESPECTFULLY is okay. Like wow this dress is new, or you changed you hair it looks nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:39 AM
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I mean the only reason i wouldn't like that is simply because i am not gay, plain and simple. Honestly if i could force myself to like that, i 100% would, but i believe sexuality is congenital, so i was unfortunately or fortunate enough to be born heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:38 AM
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If your metric is just getting laid then sure. But people approaching adds a lot of value to you as an entity, as in people care about you and will come to you because you are valuable and matter. Not saying doing the approach is bad, but always doing it is 100% not good, especially if you hit home very few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:35 AM
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I mean it surely is a completely different ballgame when you are partnered. Also IMO both of these were incredibly disrespectful to both your partner and you, and that negates any possible good effect attention might give you. Complimenting girls with boyfriends respectfully is insanely hard, most of the times i don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:34 AM
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Gay man compliment does literally nothing with my confidence sexually. It may be nice but means literally nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:32 AM
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Idk about you, but getting laid is a form of attention too. Besides i know SO MANY ego lifters and workaholics that i can't really trust your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:34 AM
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It's better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:52 PM
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Yeah but that is from her part, not me saying no to her. Perspective is key here, because girls finding me good looking might help me get sex later, because my confidence with woman in general has increased. Attention from men will never improve my chances of having sex unless i'm gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:01 AM
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Men are honestly seen as merely useful tbh. I myself relate a lot to this reply, truly. Oof this rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:24 AM
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Actually, this is correct. What i precisely said is that i envy the amount of attention women get. I also say it from my own shoes, it is a futile exercise to imagine if i too was a girl in this situation, it isn't ever possible. What i said is i wish i had a lot if attention too, as a man. So you are right, i just cant ever be in that spot so for me it's irrelevant!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:18 AM
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What can they do when all else failed. It's easy to be addicted to coke and stable if you have an income. Watch this person lose his morals and dignity as soon as the money dries up/he loses his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:13 AM
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Then self esteem issues are not real, because you can just fix it by yourself? Reputation and social credit is the most powerful weapon a person can have always. From job hunting to dating, your social standing often matters much more than the truth. It is smarter to befriend the boss than to be super competent to get a promotion. Besides, self esteem is useless if only you believe it. This is obnoxious discussion btw. "Just accept this truth" is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:11 AM
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100% based, after you get a taste of it, it's worse than crack. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:07 AM
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Insanely sane take considering previous interactions with you on the Sub LOL. We 100% agree here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:05 AM
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Because they likely never really lacked it to give value to what they have. Very much a white middle class girl problem if you might ask
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:04 AM
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I mean action does not correlate with results, and in dating, very poorly does. All humans love attention, it does good for your mental health in healthy doses. Considering how most men seem to fare dating wise, always trying to make it happen is a dumb idea ROI wise The best course of action is just to be as hot/attractive as possible, and only act when opportunities show AKA be reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:02 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:57 AM
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Men who exude that mentality must be hot, rare exceptions. Besides you said yourself, glances and looks are good, always, but hey catcalling and stalking is never fun. It seems to me that you get that there are limits, and that proper attention is very fucking welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:57 AM
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I mean, most guys would love to sometimes be reactive, like even a simple provocation is enough of an invitation most times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:52 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:47 AM
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Yeahh, but once you got some attention, you learn what you are missing, and it becomes more obvious the shitty situation. Honestly, the parties i go to a lot of drugs are involved, girls feel safer to interact, so it helps a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:47 AM
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I am, but it is still hard, kind of obvious that people find it hard to interact with you if you aren't present. Your comment is spot on, i am lucky i am extroverted!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:43 AM
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If you are hot and high value, you don't need to provide anything to others. No money, no media, no nothing, your mere existence suffices them. If you rely on providing you are setting yourself up to drained dry, dumb idea. But you seem to like providing and being useful, why don't you get me a drink while i talk to my friends? It wouldn't hurt you right, you so rich anyway? Also remember to tag me on your IG posts, so people can find my profile too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:42 AM
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Self esteem without any outside confirmation is just delusion bro. You can think you are hot shit all you want, if others don't see the same, you will look quite crazy socially. It may work for you, but i can't deny reality that hard. This is exactly why women parade around, and fill their faces with makeup, it just works, everyone corroborates that they are hot shit. Differently from fat women with hairy armpits saying they are hot shit, it becomes a fucking joke. Self esteem is partially defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:38 AM
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Yeah now you tell me, taking action and doing shit for a terrible ROI is not manly, it's just being dumb and abusable. Always face tanking the problems and never demanding some retribution is dumb. Such mentality makes you nothing more than a sometimes useful slave socially. All humans want validation, your suggestion makes you easily manipulable. I know a lot of girls as friends, they call men like you, "gastronomical contacts", useful to pay expensive dinners!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:31 AM
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Besides being hot, the rest of other "male values" are just being useful to others, which is a bit abusive. Sure you can find motivation outside of dating. But to me a rich guy/famous guy who isn't hot is just using pseudo prostitution, and it just feels and looks pathetic. Sure but i would only HAVE to do that if i wanted children, else it's hardly a worthy trade!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:24 AM
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It is useful to know you at least have some value. Very little self assessment can be done over no results at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:18 AM
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This has nothing to do with the OP There are many enviroments where women can possibly only lust after your flesh, and those even when nothing happens, are hyper ego boosting Like it's one of the few situation where you have the power in the interaction!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:17 AM
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My biggest fear tbh, i don't get any attention rn imagine later!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:11 AM
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Yeah you got my point perfectly. This knowledge is very valuable!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:08 AM
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Isn't the thirst mostly innate?, all throughout history men were known to be horny, it never changed. Most ancient wars were fought over women!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:06 AM
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I think this is part instinctual, you might not have experienced it but it is in your DNA to want it. But yeah it makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:05 AM
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They don't get punished for it plus some guys like it. No one is stopping the girls, and some even incentivise it. A bunch of guys would be in heaven in your place as weird as it sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:01 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:59 AM
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Usually they are also more humble, funny, and better company, hot girls have too much ego sometimes!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:57 AM
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The deal between us is that we actually enjoy each other, met at hobbies and don't see each other often. So for now it doesn't matter. She lost 40kgs in the last 3 years, actually unrecognizable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:54 AM
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I mean to actually be like that you need to be pretty hot. However the utter lack of attention men get makes it seem like this is true. Byt everything is a lot when compared to 0
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:51 AM
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Sure but never getting is damaging from a logical sense. If no one is trying to buy, and you have a hard time selling, one wonders if the odds aren't good or the goods are odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:47 AM
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Oh no, drunk and drugged people, even sober, sometimes don't realize some people are a couple. At least in the Trance scene guys usually just laugh, say sorry and stay put, i never seen a fight over it LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:46 AM
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Marketing to gay men proves or say nothing about your attractiveness to women. Being gay man bait might actually signal you are doing something wrong, attracting the wrong kind of attention!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:44 AM
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Your take makes little sense. The attention from girls is good because she is risking a no/making the first step. If gay men do it to me there is no risk or tension for straight men because the outcome is always no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:42 AM
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Girls will simp hard just not in pubkic because it degrades their image. They however simp turbohard in private!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:39 AM
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Nothing to add here you are right..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:37 AM
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I mean, i hand out with a mostly LGBT crew in college (psychology students, i do engineering), and the gay attention helps but it's little. They know i am not gay so them taking courage to speak first is not that impactful because there is no risk involved, they don't want to do anything with me, thankfully tbh!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:17 AM
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I believe for 20 somethings is somewhere around 35 it seems, never more than 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:12 AM
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People in this sub would call her post wall, i don't feel that way!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:10 AM
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It doesn't matter if women were easy or hard, it only matters if they were easy or hard FOR HIM. If he can get access to the easy women he is happy, if he can't he will comdemn it. The logic is they don't want to pay for what others had for free!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:07 AM
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I mean wall is quite subjective, in time everyones appearance rots, and people become jaded. It just happens on average faster to women. And from a selfish perspective, it makes sense for men not being selected anyway to seek solace in this revenge fantasy, even if its fake!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:04 AM
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I mean, 32 year old, divorced multiple times, family issues, age shows a bit when the makeup is off. By this subs definition, she is post wall, but i personally couldn't care less, i am 22 btw. She treats me better than any girl ever did!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:00 AM
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I mean this is fine, but personally i love the attention!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:51 PM
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Sometimes people haven't noticed you yet! A brief hi and small talk is enough to gauge for me...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:50 PM
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She is 100% post wall, 10 years older than me, like in a club she doesn't REALLY stand out. In the end she is hot to me and that is what matters!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:48 PM
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How would you know if you don't ask that's what i am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:46 PM
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I mean i may not be all men, but her thinking the situation is rad too, is a main goal. It must always be win win for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:36 PM
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Basically so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:32 PM
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How else would one know if it's reciprocal if they don't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:31 PM
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Horniness, more willing to take risks in favour of possibly a good outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:28 PM
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It often doesn't go well for men either, so someone has to take the onus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:26 PM
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Yeah, biochemically yes, but this is where actual connection comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:24 PM
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Honestly bro, 30 secs is under performing af.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:22 PM
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It propably boils down to: They don't have to!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:10 PM
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I mean, a simple approach is to have a male friend backing her up, suddenly it's alot safer to do all of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:09 PM
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Oh no, the kind of attention is the blatant flirting or demonstration of interest, even for friendships. In my case, it's the willingness of others to want me however they wish, and make first steps. I try to keep my goals with my approach to make people happy, so i reduce outcome dependency. No expectation is a game changer!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:07 PM
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I mean if i make advances i get some few results. But passively, i don't think i got that kind of attention more than twice, and it felt AMAZING!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:59 PM
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Fat women are still women, get all the good treatment bar the lustful ones. Hell, most men are protective of women close to them, even the fat ones. Like 50% of my female friends are on the fat side, no issues here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:55 PM
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I mean no need to be sarcastic here. What i am saying is that personally most of my struggles is wanting attention, not sex/romance, the validation is king here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:52 PM
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Oh i mean this goes beyond dating, like even if i think the girl is ugly/not my vibe, It's the ego boost, i feel like hot shit after, helps me approach too. And i miss that attention more than the sex/dating, it's empowering!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:47 PM
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This is not my point entirely. I just think we need to keep in mind that our minds and subconscious is very very VERY recently out of the savannahs, so we still are biologically geared to do exactly what our ancestors did. We maybe don't need to literally chase lions, but what is required is that we evoke the ancient image that men and women have of eachother, even in symbolic ways. This is where the dilligent worker/entrepeneur could fit in, the women that takes care of others even if they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:22 PM
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I am forced to agree, TRP advice may be weak, but bluepilled advice is like completely useless and counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:23 AM
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I mean if he wants to keep doing similar activities in his free time he must enjoy it someway. I am just saying, men like the bruteness of some jobs, it's a natural allure, but very few are insane to actually enjoy getting injured multiple times. I bet those injuries your dad has he sees has the possible shitty outcome of something that he mostly enjoys. You know, sometimes exercising the power to stick 2 very sturdy and hard steel pieces together, knowing you both know how and can do it, is ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:10 PM
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I actually agree with you, it just often correlates with tiresome jobs, the deal is that men don't like the suffering, they like that they are capable of facing it and being powerful, even if by knowledge or just being stronk af. You are right, actually on point here. Most men would like to have a "regular" job and leave the physicality as a hobby if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:59 PM
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Ah but the men themselves see it differently, maybe not backbreaking slavery, but using the full extent of your strenght just feels very good. There is a difference in a man chopping some wood for his fireplace in the woods. And a man cutting stones while getting whipped in a schorching sun until he drops dead. We like being strong, but getting abused is no fun for anyone you are right. You can spot that many men take those phisically difficult jobs as hobbies many times, woodworking, mechanical…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:01 PM
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If you include the love of orgasming, then yes LOL. Sometimes just having a good time with a hot stranger is lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:26 AM
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That is the PUA approach, and while i might already know the answer, was it worth to you in the end. Because besides the weight loss, it didn't seem like that much brutal work. Tbh i am a party junkie myself, i managed to turn my slight drug problem into a very good social avenue and actually stopped caring about both girls and drugs significantly. I used to drink myself to sleep, and be constantly tortured by the horny, but now i only maybe take some few things at festivals only, and while i am…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:06 AM
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There is no actual walmart equivalent where i live, like there is walmart but the shops are wildly different. The "sell everything you can imagine" shops aren't that here. But yeah i kinda call cap, i technically find most of those guys attractive even if they are average, the girls not so much. When i dig into a few's life, it is usually a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:45 AM
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What i mean is that are those products supperfluous to actually being clean and smell good? All the conditioner and special soap isn't actually required?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:43 AM
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Do you think the self improvement thing is a zero sum game? As in if i get better i am taking away from someone else? Or if all men self improved most would get okay results or the small differences would perpetuate 80/20?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:41 AM
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Idk that depends on census and statistics. Here where i live the average is 70ishkg, between 5'7-5'11, and black, makes about 3-4k monthly by the time they are 26 (i am excluding extreme poverty because it plagues the country, and drives stats much lower), and has a fitness hobby, usually football. Actually brazil is only easy for foreigners because we have stray dog syndrome, it's actually quite decent in the country male wise, but we are a culture obsessed with being hot so this is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:38 AM
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Mind explaining, this is not self evident in the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:29 AM
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Yeah maybe it is the case, but i can't be that definitive, but yeah fair approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:27 AM
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Yeah that is what i am saying. If you ever go countryside and just look at the more average bro there, they might be equally ugly, but most young working men tend to be much fitter, even helping old bill fix his fence is much more work an IT guy has ever done. They might say stupid shit, but the working physique and whole sweat, strenght wielded and the ease at which men do it compared to women, is a common trope on both fiction and accounts from women IRL. Like there is the male essense that at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:26 AM
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It seems to be a common consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:21 AM
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From the male perspective, men could for thousands of years survive on their own. A small group of men is more than capable of surviving. So the only real challenge was the beyond survival deal of reproducing, this is where men stepped up to fight, compete, conquer, work, and struggle for greatness. The current issue is that when women aren't no longer available as goals, achievements for men to conquer, they have very little incentive to do anything really. So you get those NEETs doing the bare…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:49 PM
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As a man and due to lack of interest, i actually bought into that crap. Is like it not required at all to just smell nice and fresh? FR now, it seems like SUCH A WASTE OF MONEY then, like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:25 AM
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A man with just shampoo and some coconut soap can get groomed real nice. Women need to take much better care of long hairs because they look weird if you don't, with conditioner and a bunch of creams. I also hear a lot of women experience a lot of intimate discomfort with regular soap and it both hurts her and the bacteria inside, but i can't say anything about it. Guys can basically wash their entire body with regular soap no problem, and if he shaves no shampoo required even.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:13 AM
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This is a generalist take i had, the true result is only by knowing as much as you can about your girl, and just establishing your own limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:43 AM
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Yeah if you count all ages i totally agree with you, but the age where it matters, where the fuckfest happens and people get laid, that is from 18 to early 30s, i DOUBT the figure of married stays the same. Finding a wife is not that hard, finding a woman that wants to fuck you and maybe date later, yeah that is the real issue. Like i could just do the following, start trying to find widows, and women reaching their 30s and find the ones in a rough patch, then you give them all the love and roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:55 AM
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Alright mighty man, let me ask you a quick question, imagine you have a guy not looking for commitment, he bought into apps because he just wants to fornicate a lot. In this case what would be a good course of action you could offer, i know you aren't a pickup artist, so your advice might differ a list. I would totally kill for a pro to give me a "target list", and just go:"your main demographic is idk 28yo, serious looking and more on the femme fatale side" Or "Go after those weird goth alt chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:35 AM
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As in completely banning all other forms of sex besides monogamously dating and marriage? Yeah it honestly is tried and true. It just sucks that we don't really have a way to enforce it, people don't really fear helltime anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:03 AM
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Have you seem the size of their butts?, some are easily bigger than my head without being flat. Like bro those stats are like A OK, it is very similar to the girl i was going out with. And me being a very skinny man, i appreciate some extra cushion so that we don't imitate the minecraft skeleton everytime i bump.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:41 AM
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Overweight you can change, i was just fucking a girl who is 32, she found someone willing to date her so now we are friends again. I am 22, yeah, not complaining, at all tbh she was great. She was 100kg 2 years ago, she is full of scars from weight loss and some loose skin, mainly boobs. But hey she fixed the problem miraculously, i bet to myself she was 26 when we first met. Average girl not bad at all. Also i am not american, fat is not standard in brazil, in fact skinny af is quite common her…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:30 AM
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I don't suspect the American government will just make the next recruitment ad for the army targeted at incels, and just find another hellhole to shove them into. Not even american myself, but it is how they deal with problems there, they find someone to blame and fire all weapons at them, literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:20 AM
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Money can't ever be an equalizer for the future because giving the financial advantage back to men is impossible and kinda just cruel to women so it misses the point. Honestly we need to just figure out how to make men hot literally not subjectively (like most men know EXACTLY, what can make a woman hot or not, it is widely agreed upon), but objectively hot. Or just put female viagra in the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:07 AM
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Honestly the only viable solution is to make women more safe, both biologically (pregnancy) and physically (violence), and just put female viagra in the water, i can't really see many other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:04 AM
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Fair point, do you imagine the problem of pairing ever being fixed while you can still take advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:02 AM
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Honestly i call bullshit on all of that. Statistically there many different studies pointing different reasons why the average man is struggling, especially the young ones which matter a bit more. Second is that below average partners always struggled, all marriages i know between ugly people are born out of partnership, not out of joyous love, it feels weird af. And the last one is basically trying to dismiss the caster of the questions, if those men are saying they are average, it is dishonest…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:01 AM
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Then you statistically are doomed to suffer, accepting it as "it is what it is", is just surrendering. This is the kind of stuff that blackpillers say, which is pure defeatism, do you really wanna suffer in silence and cowardice and not even try to do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:34 AM
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By definition they were still the average, it is just that the quality of the average increased significantly. This is the core of my question, what can you do to improve a man that doesn't involve changing the contrast (comparing him to lesser men, like when passporting), or general genocide? Because well as an average man, who is struggling, hearing that is basically akin to incel advice which i will not cite here because it is ban worthy. But using an elongated cord to preemptively resolve fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:33 AM
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Yeah but if you aren't top you better lean much closer to it than you might expect. Knowing there is better out there will leave a lingering feeling on every person's life of settling, and it rots away your soul. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:28 AM
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If we go by that assumptions then it would be justified to do whatever it takes to get a mate. Something like 80-90% of all ancient tribal wars the main goal was to kidnap brides, all the way to viking raids in the 500s. If we assume we can't tame biology we either invite suffering or allow chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:37 AM
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Because as i posted in the previous comment, and in another response. This is not at the core of the male fantasy. The male fantasy is the savage corruptor or the noble savage. A rugged man just doing his thing that charms a civilized women into her most primal desires. Men don't want to dance mostly, it is seem mostly as a bait, the savage man is in essence a hunter, he wants to be charming by his mere masculine energy, not by being sly with words and graceful. No wonder in a metaphorical sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:09 AM
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Not by being desired by being, but by doing. Men could be funny, rich, talented, strong, etc. But these aren't things that you are, those things are merely achievements, not inherent to you as a person. It is mostly a performative act, and that is where men see women transactionally, because most of the time they just want to be loved by who they exist as, not for their service. Besides you don't "build" a personality, your identity is yours, you are who you are, if someone doesn't like your per…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:47 AM
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I think this is quite the male fantasy yes. Just a random worker chopping wood or laying bricks near a castle shirtless, only for a mighty and beautiful princess to take interest in your humble soul and be mesmerized and melted my your overwhelming manliness. The same way women dream of being the tamers of savages, men tend to dream as being corruptors of the pure, to bring out the whore from inside the maiden, fill her heart with lust to the point where civilized manners are no more. Also the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:25 AM
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It might actually be the case, often the relationships between average or ugly people are the ones most filled with trouble and drama. I advise you don't because you might unbury shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:59 AM
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Beta attraction isn't just money, it is rooted in confort above pleasure. Like a Beta guy in her eyes doesn't hold any power over her, she can threaten cheating or actually cheat more easily than he can, if she outearn's him she can more readily be disrespectful to his manhood. But ultimately the Beta guy is a confort choice. As in this power girl boss you refer to is usually thinking, "enh, he's nice to me and i am needing of a baby daddy since my clock is running (if she wishes kids), besides …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:11 AM
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Yeah really on the street, actually both men and women look at everyone instinctually, even if for miliseconds, but they do. We are social creatures and tend to be aware of your surroundings, obviously not possible at a crammed metro station, but on a sizeable avenue where you can actually glimpse at people's body fully, like the inside of a mall. Try to notice after you cross some people in the street which details you remember, it is mostly sexual attributes and starkingly remarkable details, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:57 AM
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Interesting find, i will definitely watch this on it's entirety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:53 AM
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Is the average guy that much of an asshole?, because i am friends with a bunch of different dudes and man most of the time even the strangers are chill. Yeah but having a great personality and being butt ugly is what you call a friend, not a lover. What men usually struggle with is being hot, because if you don't like his personality i bet he doesn't like your too! What is a challenge for most guys is how do they appear hot to the girls who like his personality, because personality wise, there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:51 AM
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Dating and marriage i bet Beta attraction. Hooking up, i call bluff, he's either a rizz spitter, or he is well versed in the arts of manipulation, or just such a piece of stereotype in his niche that he is a walking fantasy. Like the punk junkie who is a guitarrist in a rock band who also is incredibly political, this guy doesn't need to be hot, he is a walking stereotype and certainly will be a chick magnet to the right crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:47 AM
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I know some sad things happen when the partner doesn't live up for the best. I was going out with an older girl this summer break, i am 22 and she was 32. We had an amazing month, but well, she is 32, looking to start a family yada yada, so in the end she is now starting to date a guy her age, who is pestering her since college. I heard from her that he was after her even during his marriage, giving hints but never cheated. I also heard that he was "ok" in bed and not as large, i mean thank god …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:44 AM
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People all have individual cultures, but some aspects of american culture are universal. Like here in brazil, rice and beans is the DEFACTO lunch and possibly dinner every single day, be you poor, rich, black, white, north or south. Your lunch is 90% of the time rice and beans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:37 AM
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Precisely, most men instinctually take an instant look at women the moment he sees them, they just do. You never noticed a man's eyes doing a body scan moving up and down in a split second? Men do it to other men too but it's more as a threat assessment thing. I think women do it too besides the sexual part but it is super fast for men looking at women. It's literally instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:31 AM
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Simple, Beta attraction. They are basically trading something else in exchange of affection. Quite simple actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:28 AM
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Maybe at the start, but to say the USA doesn't have it's unique culture is weird af. Besides, if americans get wiped due to not breeding there wouldn't be much culture clash from interbreeding between cultures so that it morphs. Again just weird to have to point out but, most cultures on the planet aren't pure blooded, multiculturalism reigns supreme in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:43 AM
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She is desirable just not the most desirable, unfortunately nature gave men a singular dick. Women often find the average bro gross, not just not desirable but big no no. This is what i was trying to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:39 AM
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Women don't evaluate the average men as desirable even when they are out looking. This is where my question lies. Why is the average bro so rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:38 AM
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It's not about men having money, is more about women not having access to it. Which is a terrible idea overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:37 AM
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What i am trying to say is that people of american or any culture don't breed, the immigrants will take over. And a large portion of worldwide immigrants share these cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:36 AM
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You said not being exclusive, which is an open relationship, which makes it by definition polygamous, because you are fucking more than one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:35 AM
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I mean i get your point, it's just, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:34 AM
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It's not the score of the woman that matters. But men will check out all women at least for a couple seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:33 AM
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Australia for us has a reputation to be the place where we basically go to farm money. Simple jobs like construction and babysitting are incredibly overpaid considering our own currency, so we basically go to australia to farm money. Here in brazil it is pretty common to basically plan to work abroad for 10 or 15 years and just retire because our currency just sucks that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:35 PM
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I mean that is the point why men agree with non exclusivity. They consider the possibility of being polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:24 PM
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Yeah not the case here at all, where you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:23 PM
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Ehn actually yes most men pay minimal attention. It read it somewhere some good time ago that the fastests responding stimuli humans respond to is sexual. Like before a man has actually noticed the color or her clothes he already noticed the size of her boobs and breasts and possibly started getting hard. It is so automatic that you can sometimes see a hot girl just a glimpse in the street, your brain registers that half assed (or fully assed LOL) information, and you might arrive somewhere hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:22 PM
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Actually many i would bet, being military lost a lot of prestige currently. Haven't you seem the pictures of guys with the nerdiest possible glasses and faces, with a marine haircut while being buff AF? I think those struggling marines are in a similar class to the gymcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:16 PM
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Actually based, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:14 PM
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This is why the rotation thing is a thing. If you keep a woman around you don't need to find another. Or you just keep women around so you don't starve while hunting for new ones, like putting food in the freezer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:13 PM
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What i am saying is inherently desirable. As in "check that guy across the street, he do be kinda hot LOL", Like men do to women often. Also yeah lifestyle contributes to developing a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:12 PM
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How can MORE STDs help? Im baffled...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:10 PM
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Yeah that is the content i watch seldomly, because it is shitty af and affects my mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:09 PM
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I go to parties and college all the damn time, also go shopping for food and the likes. I don't see many couples at all. Sure maybe most people are paired off but i rarely see actual couples together. Even at bars and restaurants, most are friends groups or families of older people, i don't see many literal couples. Sure i spot them due to the volume of people, but certainly most people are single, especially in their 20s which is my age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:08 PM
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Boot camp does that too, have you never seen marines getting whacked for not having tied their shoelaces. You need to up in time, in impeccable form, no excuses tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:06 PM
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It's not about making peace with not being ultrasuccessful. It is quenching the horrible torture of a constant unsatisfied libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:04 PM
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Yeah but what you are talking about is personal. What i asked in the OP is what can be changed for the majority of men so that they by default succeed. The historical sexual output (as in having kids) of men is less than 1, so most fail to reproduce, in the past that basically meant sex because contraception was non existant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:03 PM
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Most woman do wish to be mothers, if they aren't mothers already the clock starts ticking. Geriatric pregnancies start at 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:01 PM
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Fair take honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:00 PM
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Yeah sure, however i don't think this is ever going to happen. What can be done for the average man to become similarly hot to women as they are to men?, you really think nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:00 PM
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I mean i don't notice most men stinking at all. Besides the male body is much less demanding about cleaniness than the female body. Overall men have a much easier time cleaning themselves. Just consider that if men go bald, they basically just need a soap bar for the entire body, while girls need intimate soap, shampoo, maybe conditioner, normal soap, and probably more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:58 PM
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Where, how much is rent in fairyland? Seriously though, just where?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:56 PM
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No need to solve the problems of the dead. It is sad to see the most common historical solution to incels is getting them unalived ASAP. This is just depressing tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:56 PM
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There was a huge backlash about the feminist parties demanding enlisted women be removed from the frontlines at the start of the war, and many fled service. The few women in the frontlines are nurses and non combat personnel, but mostly medical staff. Having women in enlisted army is literally bad for cohesion, armies worldwide ban even having brothels too near to the barracks to avoid distracting soldiers. Also desperate and tired men, coupled with vulnerable women, is a bad bad combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah there is no going back unfortunately or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:52 PM
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Yeah that is what my current track record points towards. Still this is insufferably little compared to what most and i wish, that it becomes a frequent topic in therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:51 PM
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Some do, before 30, but after 30 it becomes much more aggressive Nearing 30 the want of having a partner starts to get closer and closer to a need or obsession to the point they might reduce standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:50 PM
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Well i can't possibly say anything about them as i have zero experience there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:48 PM
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I honestly half agreee with 1st paragraph, relationships maybe, but casual sex, big no no. I don'y get the second paragraph, what getting out of their own way could possibly mean here. Like if they are ugly it's literally on their face, i honestly call cap on it being purely behavioral, else those coaches would have a very high success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:47 PM
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I mean it's something that is at least irrevocable, as in nothing can be done to remove this power bar extremes. Honestly the thing men wished the most is to be innately valuable and not variably valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:44 PM
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Im working on it, rest assured.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:43 PM
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Your math actually doesn't check out at all. Like if you have 1 guys for every 10 girls, and they only like the 10% there would be actually 1 guy for every 100 girls. You need not a raw ratio but men being sparsely distributed, no matter what if 1000 men were available to 10k women, and they were all together, still 100 men would get most action. Now if you split them all where there is literally only one men for every 10 women in a large radius, then it could be effective. It is the german scen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:01 PM
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I mean it is the worst part that they are so antidrugs. It seems like a lovely place, i however am very much a rave hippie, i need my vitamins LOL. Israel however is goated for the Trance scene, i would love to enjoy some Goa there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:56 PM
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Bro this place is filled with incels too, don't delude yourself. Women here are just as picky as most western countries, you just will never see it because we idolize foreigners here because most people hate the country. So just speaking with some slang and not knowing portuguese is enough to get girls attention here. Foreigners also are very easy to spot here, so you are in no issue if you come over. I am not technically incel, but i manage to get laid like once a year or so. The worst part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:53 PM
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As i read in another thread, what is much more attainable is rather obvious. Match Group antitrust fund, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:50 PM
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Honestly, i don't see it happening at all. Always a bunch of simps after them, sure most are just desperate to fuck, but they still are after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:49 PM
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Care to elaborate, i don't see it happening in brazil although it is very westernized too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:47 PM
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I mean the only stupid culture currently is western one, so we kind of are the oddity here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:47 PM
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Equity is such a cancerigenous idea, Yuck. And well men aren't waiting all that long. After 10 years of waiting they will just go crazy and become as lunatic as rollo tomassi is. I am not working 10 years to support a glorified hooker, it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:46 PM
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Idk if you are aware, but at least where i live in brazil there are maximum wages, it's just that rich people have other means of adquiring money not capped by it. If you cap housing prices no one would build or invest into housing, because it would not be economically viable to build them. We would just trade a houses are too expensive with a there are no housing available problem. Also price controlling is a very very bad idea economically, it is at the core of how the soviet union went broke,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:44 PM
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Yeah, do you believe it won't matter much?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:40 PM
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Honestly if it was actually just that, i would totally buy in, but it seems not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:40 PM
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I think the club thing depends on the scene, at least on the rave scenes it is frowned upon. For example, some funk and trap parties here in brazil are more receptive to this behaviour, the Trance and techno scene not at all, but for me it is hard because i hate funk/trap, but i love electronic music, so i get a bit stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:39 PM
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I mean you are basically citing chad stats here, but you said you still got around in the US, it just got much better when you moved. Interesting, how do you deal with the locals, do you get a lot of backlash locally, or at home from family? I am not american so i can't have any say on that. But here in brazil it is a flesh carnival, like we literally have the carnaval holiday, which is basically a fuckfest, like literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:35 PM
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Actually this is absolutely what an average girl looks like. Most men would happily give her the time of the day given she doesn't make it too hard. Like sure she might not be everyone's cup of tea, but most guys wouldn't regard her as gross at all. If that is average than it is honestly fine. I live in brazil so the only difference between this girl and the average here is that she would be much darker and a bit less fat, and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:32 PM
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Ahh so men are either dumb or smart, while most women are mid?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:28 PM
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But relative can involve magnitude, the average bloke nowadays is very different from the top guys. If top and mid where more alike, don't you think the difference and thus the behaviour would be less intense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:27 PM
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You answered your own question, women at 30 want something serious due to their life stage, so they might reduce their expectations to get paired off quicker. Thus it is well known at least to me and you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:24 PM
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If you have that body, any kind of fashion can work, it will just change the crowds of girls you attract. Like hot is always hot, but some prefer hot geek others prefer hot jock, but step 1 is to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:23 PM
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It does make sense, but with women in the workforce, it would make no sense to artificially pay men more, companies would just lose money by making labor more expensive. While i agree this might work, i don't see it actually happening, it is a dumb choice in a capitalist sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:22 PM
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Do men or women have that much IQ on average? Yeah getting more equal institutionally is a great start. How does all of that make men be intentionally traditional?, i believe most men would be in for some actual equality, i would love to split bills and be pampered sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:20 PM
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Do you believe if the gap between the top and the average is reduced the problem would be less severe. Like if your average bro was ripped like your common bricklayer and had a salary to support a humble family, ya know, like it used to be in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:18 PM
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At least for first world countries i don't actually see population collapse. I just see a majority of the population as either indian, asian or muslims, it's already happening. The first victim will be the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:10 PM
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Below 30 there certainly is, there is not much value in relationships of commodity, or desperation. Like it is quite well known women at 30 jump into almost any relationship they can get, i've experienced this myself. I might be 20syo, but i like older girls for many reasons, but the ones around 30 always want serious stuff, so i am forced to date younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:08 PM
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I agree on the most part, i just have to contest one specific thing. On a dating sense parties are actually horrible, your best bet is making friends and dating after you already are friendly. You can very easily become a persona non grata somewhere, if it becomes apparent to other's that you are there for women only. Especially the more deep into a scene you go. For example Raves, especially Trance raves where i usually go, it is heavily frowned upon to hit on people, the girls using dental flo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:05 PM
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I mean you are kind of missing the question. The aging thing is women getting more desperate because of bioclock and the men being more able to exercise Beta attraction which is essentially buying affection. What i am saying is what could happen to make men be seen as hot as women are on the average scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:58 PM
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Average in any given society, what you did works but isn't average. You aren't the average singaporean citizen, you aren't even a native. May you tell me more about your journey, genuinely curious. Btw fitting username.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:56 PM
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As in the current situation in ukraine? That is the exact situation you are reffering to. What is happening is most of the boys are needlessly dying on both sides while women just flee the country and abandon them, doesn't seem to be working as it did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:54 PM
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As i suggested in the OP, yeah i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:53 PM
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Well that scenario usually would mean near instant populational collapse, just a dumb fucking idea. Keep them hot, our survival depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:52 PM
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Like in the example i gave, i think it may have been worse than that tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:23 PM
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May be a local or age thing, but i don't see this happening at all. The average woman has infinitely more options than your average bro and wields this like a weapon all the time. Also most couples last less than a year, most older guys stop bothering and just hire, it is legal where i live so no issue here. Maybe my circles are just bad, but it is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:23 PM
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I did see the title of the post, it got some traction indeed. The biggest deal is the simps i agree with you, the current culture is made to breed those stupid simps. Bro i repeat this every day to every friend i meet. I HATE SIMPS, DEEPLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:19 PM
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I can see the point you are making here. But from these images what i can see is that all those men are fit in a non artificial way, they just work with their bodies a lot. And that is what makes this attire much more sexy, it helps bring out details of a fit body overall. Many would discard your opinion for your age here, but honestly i kinda of agree with you here, this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:17 PM
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This is not practical at all, it doesn't make the average man attractive also, it just limits women's options? About the pill it is true, also hormonal contraceptives are not good for your health, so different methods are much welcome. On the tribal aspect, there is no going back, and advising and incentivizing the best course of action is letting the men murder each other, is just a dumb idea overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:14 PM
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What you seem to be telling me is that you changed your behaviour because you had money, i bet this is the reason and not the money itself. Every single rich guy with hot girlfriend that i knew was a cuck ALL OF THEM. And always when they lost their money they lost their relationships too, the deal is that a girlfriend was basically a rented good, so he couldn't ever count on her if he ever needed too. This to me at least, is just added stress and no extra benefit to ones life. Idk how old are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:40 PM
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Is being just a means to an end, merely useful, a path to something else, enough for you? Sure it helps getting laid but at this point it doesn't differ from a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:40 PM
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You basically proved my point. Money isn't processed as a resource in our primal brains, what women see is lavish food, fine clothes, and nice places, not money, you having access to that because you are rich still doesn't fully click. Merely having things is not the point, you must show the lifestyle you can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:29 PM
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Actually most people, from media to your average college friend. It is very widespread?, yes, and if it isn't where you live, how much is rent over there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:12 PM
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But it's advertized as helping you get laid and it is just cheesy af most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:38 AM
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Not good or bad, but there is useful knowledge and useless knowledge. Just reframing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:37 AM
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Because he needs to compensate the lack of raw attraction, simple as that. Often in those 30% marriages the guy is either hotter or just somehow more desirable than the girl. I really do believe this whole provision and service thing to be partially true but slightly gaslightning, it is just too convenient to be a woman at all times for this to not be bullcrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:14 AM
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Men and women in this case, people is not gender specific that's why i used the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:11 AM
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But money and status for women is still more primal than literal money and status. Money is still big and strong because he can hunt and bring food and resources back to shelter, paper means little. And status is much more about social power than literal power, like a thug is often more socially powerful than a random banker. It still boils down to having physical attributes that reflect such traits and not just having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:10 AM
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The only metric that matters in the end, is either with or without a woman or women available for your preferred relationship model. Like if your top frame isn't enough to get what you want, you stand in the same place as before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 12:06 AM
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Because trying is not free, in fact it is very expensive. Would you bet 10 years of your life on a 50/50? I rather just get some money, go party/do videogames/whatever makes you happy, while being independent, and just live my life. Is a woman's company worth giving up mcdonalds and mental health for 10 years, sometimes you can conclude that no it is not. Solitude can be a powerful weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:31 PM
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I think this is more due to a lack of analytical qualities than "just try it" Being 99.99% sure is enough most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:02 PM
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The same way men like big boobs and nice asses, they just do. The idea is that at least by being hot and sexy woman want to fuck you because they want to fuck you, no secondary benefits at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:39 PM
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Both are shallow but somehow people say women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:37 PM
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JFL to be honest, these people invite their own suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:36 PM
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Exactly my point LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:59 PM
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Most guys who want relationships can get it. But a significant percentage just want to have sex, and that is where it get's complicated. Most of these relationships are based on Beta attraction which is very fragile and not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:58 PM
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Which is a lot more difficult and laborous to have or create. If you are hot and boring you are getting mostly desired by merely existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:54 PM
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It is more that the lack of it hurts you, having good frame but being butt ugly is not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:50 PM
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What is the purpose of a woman to this man? Besides sex it seems like a useless unreliable burden to the man. And no men aren't supposed to provide, thank the feminists to getting rid of that, women are more than capable now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:48 PM
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Yeah this is accurate, it is a smaller percentage of men who actually prefer a single partner, especially early in life. That is provided he has the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:47 PM
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I mean, if it helped you then that is great. I just don't think it delivers on it's promises LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:37 PM
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Men care much less about that. It only matters when his mother sees your face, which he might make sure not only her but no one will. For sex men couldn't care less, all you need is wet holes and some technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:40 AM
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Again true af, just LMAO²
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:38 AM
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If you believe you need to climb a mountain to get a date, but you are certain you can at max reach 90% of the way. Why would you bother climbing in the first place? If men know they can't reach the current beauty standard no matter what, why bother starting. Like why do all the effort if the result is the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:37 AM
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I can get behind the last paragraph, this was indeed helpful, i rather get laid less if i dodge some bullets. Red flags are a very good thing TRP teaches you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:27 AM
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This i can't blame biology upon, but more about just turbo bad culture, and overall vanity. Like this kind of shit holds no kind of usefulness or concrete value to constitute gratification. Only part that i understand, is well this guy is successful so getting him is hard, that is acceptable. But feeling great about how you bagged a guy who let's into his car/home is just plain stupid, you hold absolute zero value from doing that. His friends who get a free ride back home from him on a happy hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:26 AM
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The more correct approach is. He was a banker, now he works mcdonalds, we won't be homeless but our standards will go down. Now most girls who actually love their husband would stay, i seen it many times. But a banker loses his job and becomes a literal bum and just does nothing anymore, not even try to get any job, yeah that guys deserves to be dumped. Like there is a very serious difference in, he lost his job so i can't buy new Prada's, and he lost his job so now we are going to be literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:22 AM
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What is a BM, not getting what it means? I know he has 10 kids, or something, all mothers hate him bar the one with him now, so my bet is that he was used, happily used but still. I really don't know any women who goes "Wow, elon musk is so hot" for real without joking. And he is a bad example even because he isn't even ugly. Take bezos or zuck who look like a mario turtle and a lizard respectfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:16 AM
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I think this semantically false but i get your point. The thing is what you describe is not about rule 1, but rule 2. Having your shit together isn't attractive, but not having your shit together is highly unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:12 AM
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The lie about game is more often a lie to yourself than to others. It is in some shape or form self brainwashing, employing all sort of techniques to mold you into a different being. But don't act surprised when you notice many men who are good at game struggle with identity and self image a lot. It's like trying to fit a steel rod into a triangular hole, it just can't fit in, unless you deform and damage it. And well no wonder a lot of redpill coaches end up being revealed as lunatics, it is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:10 AM
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Attractive≠hot. He is prime material of a betabux. All the mother's got out with a big bag of money, children with a fat heritage too. All the mother's publicly talk a lot of shit on him. I bet a billion bucks if he decided to donate all his shit and live in a farm no one would bat an eye on him. To be fair he isn't even that ugly to begin with, especially with the multiple procedures he has done, fairly tall also, so he is actually a bad example. Now think some actually potato looking rich men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:44 PM
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But that is not Game per se, the redpill might call it that. The correct term is social intelligence and predates the redpill by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:20 PM
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Which ends up being a dumb long term strategy, people forgot that maybe they can get away with asshole behaviour, but their sons and daughters will pay the price. People don't even have kids anyway, this world truly doomed LOL, shitty people need to be actively stopped and we bred a bunch of cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:51 PM
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What you are trying to say is that you need to repeat the lines and mannerisms until you forget how to act otherwise. Which is just people usually intentionally change behaviour. In essence you are just teaching yourself to be naturally manipulative and seductive often in a toxic way. Which is kind of playing games still, most naturals aren't playing games at all, they are more often than not just charming people all round who also happen to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:49 PM
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I mean i bet average is half the girls here, most people are, maybe here a little below. As always most problems in this sub are mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:43 PM
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That what you describe isn't game, is just a mix of social inteligence and interpersonal skills. Game is a shitty term in this context, naturals aren't playing games so why call it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:11 PM
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Sure, only if said women is no good at all to begin with. A good woman can lift a man much higher. I mean i really think money only matters when it is not enough, like if you can't even pay gas to get to a date you have a problem LOL. However not owning a mercedes or a jeep (both quite luxurious in my country), isn't exactly a game breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:09 PM
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As in what you are saying that game is useless. It only helps, or mostly helps people who don't need help at all. I actually find guys who are less socially aware to sometimes do better, they don't realize or care about how obnoxious cold approaching can be from the receiving side.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:04 PM
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I mean a lot of the "junkies" i meet come from random places, from mcdonalds, to banks, in the weekend they all look very similar, it's just that the banker has more and better drugs LOL. The deal is that quality women is relative, ever went to any EDM festival, swarming with hot chicks. Like why would you require a "quality" girl if you just want to hookup? The only requirements are: nice, hot, not playing hard to get, besides that, i really don't care how many dicks she sucked, in fact the mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:02 PM
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LOL, never went to buy drugs directly from suppliers, basically never seen a gun that wasn't in a shop. I mean those suppliers are the true bad boys, the clients look like children there LOL. Even still, chill hippie who sleeps around is my forever mistery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:51 PM
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Then we are in accord, i have nothing to add here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:49 PM
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I mean the men AND women who are hippies. Do you really think those guys got no rizz? Like those guys remain fucking well into old age. Stuff like local culture, them being good to talk to, drugs, all sorts of things. I am talking because i do interact with the types a lot, so i see them in action
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:48 PM
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I am one of those guys, i want to just get laid too, but what is the point if lie to the girls. I want to feel loved, even if by many, if i trick them into it, then what value do i possibly hold?, at best a skilled liar. And well, the "how to get laid without being an asshole" guide is yet to be released.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:44 PM
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Yeah i honestly find it baffling that TRP pushes just one viable way out. However about the first paragraph, yeah that is possible, but i can't really see a chill, slow talking, fairly unreliable guys to be "bad boys" or strong framed at all, in fact what you are describing here is more akin to thugs and drug dealers than their actual clients LOL. And well how the actual stoners get laid idk, it could be that hippie culture and being stoned together allows them to be more relaxed with other girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:41 PM
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I answered this question already, the post is just poorly phrased. Besides going to the gym and getting physically hotter, the other options just help you have access to pseudo prostitutes, not women genuinely wanting to have sex with you. As at this point i fail to see why just not hire someone directly. Because with money and status you are basically paying for access. The details i explained exhaustively in plenty of other comments, i would find them if i was on PC.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:36 PM
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Not rock bottom at all, but i feel that you can be handsome even if you are crippled, it is far worse to be ugly and retarded than a cripple, that is for sure. Like a bro in a wheelchair, can still be fun to be around, have a pretty face, and do some gym, he is far better off than someone who is autistic, or just lost the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:32 PM
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Honestly what is the deal with just being fucking honest, people are so soft nowadays. If girls just said very clearly "i am not into indian guys", maybe the indian boy would not think that he is an evil mysogisnic autist who stinks and is weak, he would just know girls don't like indian guys, lr more clearly, those girls don't. Lying is such a disruptive thing that does a lot more damage than honesty, bro preferences can be anything, hell preferences can even be racist and be fine, but accusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:29 PM
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Bro most chad's i know are drug addicts, who aren't all that fit to begin with. You can't gym an attractive bone structure. And while exercise plays a part, it's mostly during childhood. What can i do now, just say gg ez mom diff? Idk for me chad is attractive face, tall, and nice proportions. Like i was going out with a chick who used to be fat af, like she got much better looking, but now she needs to basically get surgery to remove a bunch of skin and get any boob volume, because her natural …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:25 PM
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I do agree that TRP is important, i however think it is impotent. Sure i can get confident and go finally get my 3-4 daily approaches a day, and not feel miserable for it. But no mental gymnastics can protect you from a metoo accusation. The deal that men have to realize, is that the female model of fighting problems is far more effective in the modern world than the male one. Women are interdependent, they can't get shit done alone so they band together, help their sisters, divide the good men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:21 PM
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No not at all, i am a dick haver who isn't delusional. I am still baffled why any hot girl would be lurking around here, you have guys hot on your tail and a life to live, why bother with this sub LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:14 PM
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Precisely my point, did you mean to reply to me? Why redpillers can't accept this fact?, it's something so obvious LOL, maybe they never had honest sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:12 PM
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Actually i remember hearing that from old VOD's Bros just wanted to be loved, and now we are deep into a gender war, what a fucked up world man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:11 PM
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While i agree with you, i think the topic should be aborded still. Like we know we don't need it, but it's hard to forget about icecream if you are constantly around people eating it. Just how the first step in drug rehabilitation is getting rid of all the junkie friends, but you can't really do that as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:10 PM
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Like then she still doesn't wany the guy anyway, she would still just be using him as a gateway to the luxury you provide. It's just a difference of scale, makes no sense for a man to provide any of that to a girl, if what he wants is to actually feel loved for him. You know most of the girls on the yatches are hired right, no smart man would allow a civilian girl to be using his money like that, they are decorative pieces, art. What i am saying is, it is still a dumb and self abusive way to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:08 PM
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Then what is the point of marriage if you always pay. At least hookers are more skilled at sex and don't cause dead bedrooms LOL. Seriously, why then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:04 PM
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Ironically it does mostly fail spetacularly at that, because most of what TRP does nowadays is say woman bad. No one really talks how to get rid of the pain and desires a man has.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:03 PM
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Reality is often a product of your own mind tbh. Much can be done from many different spots in life, sure you can't do exactly all that you want. But when you look at it from a colder more calm perspective, you tend to realize you always have a few options, no matter how stupid they sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:02 PM
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Not much to add here, this is on point. I however believe this to be more in a spectrum and thus have more variance than given credit, sure women are more socially orientated, but most people overall are in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:59 PM
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Have you ever known perma junkies? Like there are a bunch of those in any party you go, they seem to do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:57 PM
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Yeah but not even at getting laid honestly TRP helps. What it does is helping you to become a very attractive LTR partner for those leech girls, but using those fake promises to pump and dump said girls and have casual sex like that, by lying, which is not ideal. It seems the only honest ways to get laid casually for men, and for women too, is by being hot and seductive, there isn't much to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:55 PM
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I see that in a similar lens to prostitution, if you are accumulating all of that to basically trade it for affection, from someone who values you purely conditionally, i rather just pay upfront. A hooker is 200 bucks where i live, if you aren't either cheaper, be it time, patience or money wise, or provide more than just a pussy for me, then i don't see why not hire simple as that. I think the idea of TRP is quite disconnected from the actual advice. Like yes money is important with women, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:38 PM
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Bro, not all the fucking ladies, but if i was wheelchair bound, a few would be a lot, and well i see them manage it, think about it they can skip leg days. Honestly i rather be crippled than being autistic, being dumb and retarded does far more damage with women than not being able to walk, the micropenis is basically a cripple too, but i think this can be surgically fixed. Why would you take the attention of a girl who does not want you for you, she is no more useful than a prostitute at this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:31 PM
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Honestly 80% of modern redpill is about terrible laws, how to avoid being called a creep, paternity fraud, and blackpillers in disguise. But my problem with game is that it is hardly honest, and the ones that succeed are the ones who are already like that to begin with. If your personality isn't actually aligned with the teachings it becomes incredibly ineffective. Like some guys are just needy, i know i am, sure i can not be clingy and cry begging for scraps, but that is inherent to me, it will…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:23 PM
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What i am trying to say is, if you are rich and powerful, using that as a currency to buy affection from "civilians" is just dumb, why not hire directly then, the quality is often better. I hire hookers myself from time to time, it just doesn't scratch the being desired itch, which is why i don't get those guys, why go through herculean effort to convince a woman to prostitute herself to you. Just hire, if you don't care about her wanting you, hire it is cheaper and of better quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:17 PM
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I know what you are saying about the rich bros. They know they are "impervious to trouble" because often they can just shove money at any problem in their lifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:13 PM
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My OP isn't wrong it is just not very well typed out, i am currently sick af, barely breathing properly, so i am a bit dizzy. Also i don't put ANY credit on self reports like that, they are mostly biased. Besides all of that, what i mean getting laid is being hot, as in a pure sexual being hot, independent of other factors. Wealth/power/status is something that isn't inherent to a person, every time you use it you risk losing it or spend it. Let's compare. Imagine a hot guy with a six pack and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:09 PM
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Honestly yes, i do, but i don't believe that the self improvement is all that necessary, i have more success when i am not showing "on the path to greatness" traits to the world. I have more success while absolutely drugged out of my mind at a rave, wanting to forget responsibilities, being chaotic af, and when not at a party, just being a YOLO crazy person, i just don't care anymore attitude. When i set to have goals like lifting, get a better job, move out of parents, try studying more, being …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:01 PM
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I mean i don't really see being less retarted and more socially calibrated to be game, Game is doing that only when it is required, what you describe is just emotional intelligence. Besides, no amount of tools or being prepared guarantee success on a field where random shit are so prevalent, there are infinite variables to take into account when dealing with people. Sure you can improve your chances, but the most useful parts of TRP aren't even original, they are mostly forgotten common sense LO…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:27 PM
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Oh yes you are right, but blackpillers are mostly lunatics still.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:21 PM
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Gymmaxxed or trying, focused on making money, has decent game with the girls, is not autistic, grooming on point. Those are the most telling facts to me. Some don't even know TRP but practice it to religiously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:20 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly. Becoming hot is the first goal of any human being, even for women, most guys will take hot and dumb, you could be a perfect GF but if you aren't at least somewhat attractive you will suffer. Hot is king.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:18 PM
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I mean they want to make babies, they just managed to simulate it without the onus of children (AKA contraception). Similarly how women do want the guy with resources (tangible and intangible), but sometimes they don't get it but are still into that, as in if offered they will take it. Women mostly see the casual sex as a step into something more serious, eventually. Think with me for a second, for millions of years provision and security meant big and strong, the hunter is the manliest "archety…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:17 PM
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Honestly i agree wholeheartedly, sure TRP does point out that a lot of women suck, but it is not because they are women, most people fucking suck nowadays, women are just given more opportunities to hurt "you" specifically. Btw your nick is funny, idk why, it just made me giggle LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:09 PM
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Yeah i am agreeing with you here, we reaches consensus it seems. Given a guy is hot those things help, but if he isn't hot the effectiveness of the rest is heavily reduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:07 PM
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Yeah i totally agree with you, the most useful advice is hardly original LOL. It also isn't as effective as it looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:05 PM
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Honestly not at all, most pillers want to get casual sex, if available, most guys get into relationships not by choice but by lack of options. The paying comes in many currencies, it all depends on if the deal is fair or acceptable. Most fair deals come in the same coin, like 2 relatively wealthy people looking for stability is fine, a poor person looking to date rich, not so much. It is worse when you trade in different coins, like a hot girl that is broke looking for a sugar daddy, it is the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:04 PM
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What i am saying is that some dates only occur because the girl wants their meal paid for. If paying the bill is something that is irrelevant to you being together then it is well, irrelevant. If you ask to split one day and your relationship crumbles get worse, it is a bad sign of covert prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:58 PM
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Well but none of those directly solve the issue of not being seen as hot by women, it MIGHT solve the problem, but not always works. In fact most guys still struggle when i meet them IRL. I see the stoners, the playboys, and the thug cosplayers doing much better with women than the gymmaxxed bros. Not to say they don't ever score, but they have a much harder time than some bros who are just existing. And that kind of baffles me, what is the "secret of the stoners", because although i do some dru…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:52 PM
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But it certainly helps to such a level that the chance it might not work is negligible, it's worth the risk. And TRP does have very low success rates, besides it doesn't really is required like degrees are. Also if you think about it, a degree not guaranteeing a good job is a huge fucking problem in the modern world just as much as putting effort into dating hardly has any correlation with success most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:48 PM
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Which don't make you hot, maybe attractive but not hot. This is basically my point, maybe most guys come looking for something TRP doesn't provide. Now indeed some look to get laid in any form, or just get a girlfriend and fuck off. But not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:46 PM
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This is very basic stuff honestly, it makes your mental health better by knowing what is actually happening, but the problem of being sexually desired and hot, did it help you alot? Because if only the lift weights and don't be autistic part helped you, then that is like 20% max of redpill and the rest was useless to you. Which is fine, but it seems that 80% is just bullcrap
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:41 PM
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Yeah, honestly i really think the actual specialists, AKA psychologists/therapists, should start to take academic interest in the topic, because leaving armchair psychologists of reddit and incels.is to solve these issues is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:39 PM
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Gym i agree with you, being strong and defined is actually seem as hot, ESPECIALLY for the gym bunnies, they like that in spades.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:37 PM
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Millionaire spinning plates who is ugly is beta too. Being seductive, or rugged is a personality trait, being rich or famous isn't, both dicaprio and keanu reeves are famous and rich, they are nothing alike, similar to idk tom cruise and henry cavill, nothing alike. What attracts women personality wise is the stereotype of a rich man or famous one. They like the cocky and finesse attitude of the stereotype most likely rather than the money itself. Like Grey is the characther that ties her up and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:35 PM
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Bro you never seen a good looking wheelchair bro have you, they don't REALLY struggle that hard, as long as he is not deformed most do fine, hell i see a lot of disabled people at parties. Social status is a resource too, even if that resource is "the vocalist is my buddy, maybe i get some VIP's in the future" or "I fucked him, i am the biggest fan of all" The fairest transactions ever are done in the same coin, hot with hot, rich with rich, fun with fun, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:25 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:47 PM
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Honestly the redpilled bro is playing smoke and mirrors too. The thing is he is flashing traits women desire, he gets them but never delivers on the woman's intents. Redpill guy is theoretically the best partner a woman can have, but i find it rare that he actually provides it. Besides being a pickup artist is a much more simple means to an end, it doesn't really involve decades of work, you just need to get your mental in order and learn how women think and provide the correct inputs. Why put i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:47 PM
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Makes sense indeed, but still it is totally based on smoke and mirrors. If the reason she is attracted to you is provision, EVENTUALLY she will desire it from you, this is why guys often complain that the girls they hookup with eventually want to get serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:42 PM
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RP is pure acting, game is just modulating behaviour which is basically just acting. Sure you might act so much that it becomes your core personality, but yeah it is not natural, totally artificial. If it was natural you don't need game you would just exist, i know a few guys that are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:40 PM
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No it is inherently different. You don't lose anything by providing a six pack to a woman, but you lose you money if you give it to someone else. You can't really be parted of your hotness by others, but you can be parted of your richness by a women. You spend money to date but you don't really spend hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:37 PM
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If it won't help you fix the problems you have why even bother learning it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:35 PM
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Precisely, but PUA is 90% dead, hard to do in today's political landscape (not worth getting accused of stuff just for slivers of pussy) And well blackpill is useless, they are just crazy af and need mental help, it is no longer about looks over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:34 PM
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Getting laid is different from being hot, most guys want to be hot, not useful. And if you are trading resources for sex, that is prostitution, and it's cheaper to hire one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:32 PM
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Social skills don't make you hot, they make you attractive, and it is different. Most guys want to be hot, not attractive. As in attractive guy who isn't hot is the picture of the betabuxx we see here. Guys want to be the alpha sex gods they imagine chad to be, they want girls to want their dick basically. The difference is that girls fuck attractive to get something else he provides, but girls fuck hot simply to fuck hot. I typed it very loosely i hope you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:30 PM
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You are talking about attraction here, which i agree. I fail to realize however how this makes a girl think you are hot. I had both experiences, being treated as hot and being treated as attractive, and being hot is 10x better. A girl attracted to you doesn't want to fuck your brains out, she wants you for other reasons and will tolerate sex to have it, a girl who find you hot will have sex with you until you can't take anymore, because sex is the end all be all of her attraction to you, which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:27 PM
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PUA is part of the redpill but not at all it's entirety, for a long time now the consensus has shifted. You are basically saying that "Women use makeup, men lie". Because you might not think of it that way. But most of game is reframing stuff in a better light and often involves omission and lies, which is kind of bad tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:23 PM
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Wdym, i talked about a lot of things in the post.... Redpillers are quite obvious, very much so, some pillers don't even know the pills they just act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:21 PM
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But i am too member of some tribes around here, but i don't necessarily am bound to them. As in i first like something, for example, i like electronic music, so i go to raves, they have local culture and customs, so when i go there i respect and act according to such. Different from, i don't like anything, but other like electronic music, so i will start going to raves and engaging culturally because then i might start enjoying the music. Like my tastes are mine and i go where they are, my taste…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:20 PM
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Blackpill has some good points too, but they too are extremist, if the male beauty content was not such a taboo as female beauty isn't, maybe men would be more well informed about how to be hot. I sometimes think very seriously about pausing my engineering major to go study this kind of shit for real, as a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:15 PM
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Basically agreeing with me here. Do you think women don't like to be prostitutes because of social stigma or they don't like the actual being one. Maybe if we stopped shaming the honest ladies, that work as prostitutes, more girls would flock to the profession. Likely making it more accessible financially and men used to the services, which wait, is how it was for a long time LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:13 PM
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Idk, all the talk about game and plate spinning and getting sexual access to hot women suggests that to me. And even if it wasn't most guys, it is still an undeniably large percentage of guys, which still deserve some attention to the issue. Besides, i think this is self evident, so much it's hard to explain it LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:11 PM
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As the other commenter said, the stoner sometimes has a better shot with girls, ESPECIALLY the young ones. He can: •Give them drugs •Has alot more time to spend on her •Time to party •Is hotter more likely due to gym •Has more funny tales and stories depending on taste, office drama or travel experience might be boring to a young girl, or too alien because she can't do that easily. •Stoner will likely have more interpersonal skills and be more down to earth, super successful people live in a dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:09 PM
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What i am saying is that social status and connection just makes you throw more coins in the slot machine. As in you roll more times you are more likely to win a few times. But it all comes from the base, like a guy like stephen hawking was very famous, but he was all fucked up, he did get married 2 times, but one time was before he was all crooked, and the second was something like his nurse/therapist i can't remember. But if he wasn't ugly he may as well have had many more opportunities. Also …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:02 PM
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It still makes no sense if you don't actually share that status in any shape or form. Because you aren't your status, it becomes like any other form of transactional relationship, if you don't provide she will neither. What i am trying to say is, they are indeed attracted to it, but i can't see how this is something that women find hot in the sense of sexually hot, evident by how most girls would gladly cheat with a chad to get his genetics, the whole dual mating strategy debate comes into play.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:54 AM
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That is mostly PUA, which is a part of TRP but not all of it. Game has limits too, also not worth it sometimes, rarely actually, if you can only get girls by acting, you will still never feel safe and relaxed with her, kind of loses the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:49 AM
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Yeah but i honestly can't grasp that, how a person being simply famous makes her pussy wet, i can't believe bragging rights is all that powerful honestly... Besides, and how money even makes women sexually attracted, makes no sense to me. Unless of course you lie about commitment, but then again it is unlikely that said girl finds you hot. And if you don't care about her raw attraction here, why not hire a hooker directly, much more efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:47 AM
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Bro but that kind of dodges the question. I am not arguing that money makes people attractive, but i doubt it makes them hot. I don't understand how men can do all of that to date basically a hooker, who endures having sex with you for secondary benefits. Most guys want to be actually desired i think. If you don't care about being desired, why not hire a hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:44 AM
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Bro, like sure i do believe most girls are like that, but god damn that is so pathetic LOL. Must be why i am so into alternative girls, at least they do their own thing because they actually like it. Imagine being in a relationship with a fucking cultural puppet, that sounds so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:42 AM
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It isn't as effective as it sounds, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:39 AM
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Btw, cheers from São Paulo. I am not saying about value, but why would having big number in bank account make pussies wet? I had better luck being emotionally smart and being well dressed/groomed, also being skinny, than flashing money or shoving status around. 2 questions: •Wtf is even social orientation? •Why does having wealth/status/power make someone HOT, attractive is obvious, but what about HOT?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:25 AM
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I might be dodging the question, BUT. It is much easier to find a fit 20yo than a fit 50yo. Similarly it's much easier to find a fat 50yo than a 20yo (althought fat is much easier to find than fit overall). I would prefer the fit 50yo, but they rare af.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:22 PM
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And i don't get why he asking, how can i be hot so you would want to fuck me is something so absurd. It really isn't simple how attraction works, proof is most people that are indeed attractive don't know exactly why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:10 AM
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Not arguing with the need. I am just saying that it deeply, profoundly sucks, and obviously affects mental health. So not really a need, but a serious nuisance that is of utmost importance to be adressed. These guys don't either know how, or if it is possible to fix whatever issue they are fighting. There is no one for these guys to seriously go to for help with unatractiveness, between redpill coaches, feminazi brainwashing, and useless therapists (they are not trained on this issue most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:57 AM
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Most men really don't care, complaining doesn't make them less hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:50 AM
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Some guys really do be that horny. Most guys really don't have personality issues or other kinds of issues really. No sex makes you really grumpy when you don't have it in a while. Obviously fucking everyday is nonsense some guys try to spill here, but having less sex than once per three months is really bad for mental health on average, although the standard deviation can be quite drastic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:33 AM
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He is trying go say Hot, all that is code for hot. Like who is surprise hot girls want hot guys as boyfriends/partners LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:25 AM
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I will admit, i am not only into gym girls, but i'm a sucker for that natural jacked look some girls have. While i am skinny, my type skews a little heavier, so girls like Lean Beef Patty, Maya the amazon, and BuffGothGirl (all instagram influencers, look at them yourself), are my type totally. Now obviously they are in peak condition, but the girls i am seeing, skew to the fit side, so it really is a type LOL. I truly believe most guys lie when they say they don't like those fit girls, they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:18 AM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:44 PM
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I mean you are basically on point with the things you said. For personal advice tho, the following might apply. Move to são paulo if you aren't around yet, the asian neighbourhoods are basically infested with otakus, like it is not that uncommon to see cosplayers walking around there. Also a lot of the galleries have specialized in geek merch, from cosplay wigs to action figures (the collector kind), and they are usually packed with weebs. Besides, there are many events around geek culture in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:52 PM
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Basically bingo, this is what i was trying to get to. GJ summarizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:45 PM
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Yeah that makes things SLIGHTLY harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:46 PM
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Idk man, you can always enjoy it without drugs, i actually don't do drugs most of the time. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:30 PM
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Are you really trying to suggest that hanging out with a crowd that likes the same shit as you is bad?? I haven't said you shouldn't do what you are suggesting either. Most people know that having a welcoming social group is very good, i think you are standing on a very, sharp, coarse, and irritating hill here. You aren't wrong per se, but what do you have to lose from being in a healthy friends group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:52 AM
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Bro changing your social circle has NOTHING TO DO with "hanging out with an uglier crowd", you've seen those cosplayer girls?, the absolutely jacked bros dancing shirtless at raves, hell even the gymbros are a rather healthy community. You are talking extremes here, i didn't at any point suggest that therapy was not good, or somehow worse. But the very therapists are there to among many things help people find healthier and more sustainable social groups, like if you enjoy anime, you should 100%…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:28 AM
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The crafts men take are usually different types of crafts. Way more men are into blacksmithing or woodworking. Now what most men and women fail to realize is that crafts are crafts. I know many guys who let the girls do all the "other" parts of a craft. Like knitting a towel for the table he made, sewing a leather handle for a knife he just forged, or even simpler stuff like painting and decorating that box he just made.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:20 AM
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It is usually a family thing, AKA parents are strictly religious and shove their kids into the youth groups. Unironically it is a massive fuckfest and a disaster of lightning fast relationship formation. Yeah they can't fuck without being dating/married, no one said they can't get flash married/start dating at like 16 out of horniness. Not to count all the cheating and lewd stories in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:15 AM
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Actually true, i have a very christian friend who reports this, they struggle to get young ones into the church
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:13 AM
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Some horny ass couples, but couples nonetheless. Alcohol fucking sucks balls, it is by far one of the worst drugs out there. Worse than it just like the really really heavy stuff like fent, meth, some research compounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:11 AM
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On point, precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:09 AM
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He caught the yellow fever i think LOL. He may be a little frawnier, softer looking too, more akin to the eastern beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:09 AM
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The worth of participating or not is relative. My post is not a suggestion against self improvement, but most ways of self improvement are relative. Like fit and healthy is always positive, turbojacked not so much, similarly, if you are into metal, being in all black and leather is very fashionable, but your clothes still have to fitting and clean. Changing to a social circle that better suits you, will help your mental health more than anything, but even without dating, being accepted for what …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:07 AM
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Bingo, it just happens that the younger ones get into this scene out of some weird sort of trauma usually. "Yada yada im sad and miserable so i will dress as a goth to show the world i am sad and miserable". Then they find the goth community or fix their life (AKA grow up) and usually become just normal people who happen to be into metal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:59 AM
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The all fixing multiplier and corrector of all equations, the ultimate laws one and two.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:58 AM
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I mean you aren't wrong that people phase out off their interests. But at least for raving it is not an aged thing, at least here the average of the crowd is around 30, which is quite high for a party scene. I guess it is so because it usually involves being highly independent, you need to take a bus, some 2 hours or more away, set up your camp, and survive on your own for up to a week, like most teenagers/18yo's either can't or aren't allowed that degree of indepence. Besides all of this hippie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:57 AM
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Go for it man. THE WORLD DESERVES THE BEST OF YOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:28 AM
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No sir, what i tried to say is, getting attention while being overweight basically translates to: "I am getting results even if i am not doing perfect" But it should never be an excuse to do better, the ones enjoying you now deserve your better future self "If i self improve, i will make the people who already appreciate me happier, they deserve this treat" For your context it means, you should strive to not be overweight because it is bad for your health, but if that is not enough, maybe reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:38 AM
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Try finding a more PVT kind of event, if you make enough friends you eventually will find yourself invited to one of those smaller parties. They are much more connective and light in the social sense, it is less chaos and madness, and more like a philosophy reunion of junkies under psychedelics and psytrance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:32 AM
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Let me bet one thing, the people who were getting dates there were the groomed, good smelling, and socially pleasant ones? See this is where the actual bluepill advice makes sense, they only omitted the previous parts, like social proof, genetics, status, finances, etc. More like proof that blue pill advice is not fake. Its only that redpill is a step down the iceberg of truth, with blackpill right behind it. Pills are part of a cocktail, people arguing right or wrong are mostly nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:09 AM
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I know a few 6'3" guys who did struggle for a while, albeit a little one, when their game was seriously off due to reasons, unstable mental, one was autistic af. Besides, sure changing scenes is not a miracle, but trying to stick your guns closer to home is 99% of the time beneficial, one of the reasons is the one you typed, being easier on the heart to handle rejection, but alsl an important one, is that having a genuine interest might help you expand your social circle massively, and have a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:05 AM
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Ahh i see, this is the main problem then. Look you need to go the social circle route at raves, unless you are turbo hot. You need to kind of meet a few girls, be good company, NOT TRY TO FUCK THEM, and get their socials as a friend, and just hang around them and go to other raves with the same crew, because once you have a big mixed gender friends groups, those friendly girls will hopefully be social too. And when that happens, they will kindly inform other girls he is single. Not to say to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:58 AM
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Again on point, i didn't know this word before, it is what my generation would call clicking basically. You hang with someone and you just click with them somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:45 AM
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Basically this, it works like a fucking charm, goal of the post was to suggest others do somethihg similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:43 AM
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What they fail to realize by bigotry or by foolishness, is that most of these "hot girls" are just plain girls, with gym bodies, lots of makeup, and sometimes plastics, wait until they finally get a hot girl, spend the night, and when she removes the makeup before sleep he realizes his mistakes. And in the positive notes, those "plain girls", sometimes are just slacking the self care beauty routines, as i got a bit older i started getting an eye for more than just beauty but potential, i have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:42 AM
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I mean what TRP fails to teach is that money isn't what is attractive, it is the lifestyle and experiences you can provide. When you are a billionaire, what will a 100k extra a year change in your lifestyle?, not much, so it is irrelevant to attract women. So when you have enough money to have all the logistics covered with quality, good house, good car, money to go out, and some free time, going further has diminishing returns. Same with muscle, if you are already defined, fit, and strong, gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:30 AM
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Doing drugs and dancing is not required, but being active socially is at a rave, although the enviroment is welcoming and peaceful, most people are still dead scared of making first moves, even just for friendship. Like a change of enviroment won't magically fix all problems, just make them easier, but you still often need to act to get things to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:19 AM
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I am easy too i am also a junkie, i guess we are a match. Besides the girl i am going out with has hardly done any drugs for real, not ALL girls are junkies, neither all guys, i see a lot of nerd otakus, cosplayers, the whole deal man. Raves are a very diverse place, sure the junkies are majority, but there is all sorts of people there, bro i even met family at a rave LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:14 AM
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Your interest in history could mean you also manage to travel alot, you could go on some pretty cult trips and meet women that way, you got to be creative with your interests. Besides, contrary to what many will say, yeah it is a dangerous thing, bu MDMA saved my life quite literally, i now use it when i don't have parties to go to at my therapist, it is super productive and i manage to dig much deeper into my feelings. It helped my social skills immensely and also reminded me of what happiness,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:11 AM
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6'3" hot guys THAT STRUGGLE are more likely to be doing something very wrong and not okay for that crowd. Those should just steer clear, i know a few jerk jocks that only get by when they go for girls in different majors, after a while everyone knows he is an asshole. For the average guy, changing crowds can do wonders, and what i mean by crowd is not just "hot crowd" or "ugly crowd", it is much more about culture and values. And well if he is an asshole with dark triad traits, goths are more su…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:04 AM
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Hilarious, but hey there are some weird fetishes out there, check the other commenter on BDSM stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:13 PM
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It 100% matters, no sex is really bad, compared to even some sex. That said, they need to realize that most of these coaches are scammers, and look at the ACTUAL cases of normal guys who tend to score well, and it all boils down to being a well adjusted person who looks good. So you basically need to look as good as you can by grooming, gym, health, etc., but also need to look your best to a target group, being a specialist increases the potential both a guy or girl can reach by a lot. Get a ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:11 PM
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And again, a noble thing you as a guy could do in this situation is rely on this as positive motivation. What i imagine is this, wow, look at how all these women like me, they treat me well and they find me attractive. Wouldn't it be nice if they found me even hotter however?, i bet they would be happy to see an even hotter version of me, so maybe i should hit the gym and get a killer body, not only to be hotter, but because it will make the people who like you, happier. Motivation based on posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:07 PM
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To answer one, you aren't realising there are niches within niches, so there are some pretty deep rabbit holes you can get into. I got invite to a fucking terrorcore party, just look that shit up, turboniched. And well second part is true to a T, the ambient is very sexually charged, but you rarely get anything by being a cold approacher there, you neee to be a known figure there, and if you fuck anyone EVERYONE will know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:02 PM
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I reiterate, if the situation is truly that miserable where you live, just pack up, no need to suffer for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:54 PM
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If he hates the idea of even trying i bet he might not enjoy it that much. Maybe he is missing something awesome (my mom owns a "knitting shop" idk how it is in english, but it is a big rabbit hole). But yeah i would try first the things he is more lukewarm about, like idk biking, i know that most groups at least where i live are fairly mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:52 PM
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Also i am not her boyfriend, i just fuck her sometimes, she is directly aware of it. Besides the whole topic, i find it important to act like i do too, if you really want to see someone, make time and move some mountains, it is often well worth it and people are glad about it. Not just for sex related things, but for friends too, i acted as credit card for trusted bros more often than i remember, they would do the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:50 PM
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And to add to your quote, as most rave people do. It is our job to weed out and hopefully better educate these people on local etiquette, complaining is for the weak, 80% of the bad behaviour i've personally found is from a lack of understanding the situation, if it is purely bad faith, a good fucking smack is often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:47 PM
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I mean if it is that toxic in america that the girls are locked in their rooms doing absolutely nothing out of the mainstream, then idk what to say, can't really comment on experience with american culture. That said, if it is that hard on the local culture for a guy to get a date, just pack up your things and leave. For a myriad of reasons men all throughout history have done that, moving to better find a partner is not a douche tactic at all like some people think it is. The passport bro thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:44 PM
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I think it's quite the opposite actually, the more underground you go, the more people are actually there for solely the incredibly niche music than about having hookups. It gets actually more relationship oriented the more underground you go, because the people are few, and when you find your turbopunk weirdbass cringecore rave bae, you know you won't find another one soon so people tend to stick, to a toxic level actually, people forget to see if they have compatible lives outside the event an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:40 PM
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That is actually a bad idea, if he hates knitting that would be a self inflicted torture and redflag. Now that doesn't mean he can't find something he REALLY enjoys that is either gender neutral or that he will be a top option there. I mean in a car show, the veteran tuning mechanic is king, especially if he happens to be well groomed and aesthetically fitting the enviroment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:35 PM
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A 9-5 is not that much time, let me give you a real life current situation. The girl i am seeing is nurse, she works 12/36, AKA every other day, lives a literal mountain away from work, basically nonstop. She is basically going on a rave with me directly from work, staying at mine and going straight to work right after, and that is taxing. If you really want to go out, you CAN make time, it eventually pops up an opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:33 PM
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No woman is always an exageration, like i would have to think very hard to find a field with literally zero women. And besides that, there is the factor that being super into something, can be attractive, if you are able to be OK and have friends normally, you could be the guy bringing the girlfriend to meet DND for the first time. And i really doubt you actually don't like anything that has some women in it. I live in brazil so this is a local thing, but not many girls play football, in fact pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:30 PM
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I mean there is some status that can be attained without being a pro player, maybe you are content creator or streamer, maybe you do news, maybe you are an analyst or something. Or again just a turbofan who knows a lot about the thing in question, with credibility. And well, there is also a deal about maybe that struggling person exploring his niches for real, like electronic music?, try a festival, like gaming?, try some convention, like cars?, go for an autoshow, obviously it is good if you al…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:20 PM
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I mean it is indeed harder, but i guess this is the part where i think people get some weird looks but it's awesome. I see plenty of older folks in raves, sure it will always be weird for a significantly older person to hit on young people. But the girl i am seeing right now is LITERALLY 10 years older than me, i only figured that out after we were already fucking. So maybe there is no abundance in your niche, but by being a very niched person, who mind you, still takes care of appearance and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:11 PM
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Because it is better to start with baby steps, and well, you don't need to excel at every place you go to, focus on the best traits about you and play your cards accordingly. Personal example, i am a fucking loose cannon of a guy, up for anything, mild junkie, loves loud music, i am extroverted, lack some filters, have a pretty dark sense of humor. So i really struggle at places where i can't just show my wild self, and people mistake me for a boring person. Like i could improve that, and i am i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:55 PM
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I am not from europe either, i am from brazil, such a weird place, both suck and it's awesome at the same time. Anyway people often ommit information and/or assume everyone is american on the internet, people also love to project american reality to every corner of the planet. And idk how my overall theme doesn't apply, try to find a welcoming enviroment and culture before you go after women, it will make it much easier. Or are you going to tell me that american culture is completely homogenous …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:48 PM
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No, although it could be also a plug, it certainly add points. Well NOT ALL NICHES ARE SAUSAGE FESTS, raves are almost 55, 45, although most people overall aren't single there, it was shocking for me, but raves are much less of a fuckfest than people give it credit to be. A trap party or a country show is much, much worse in that fuckfest department, sure raves are EXTREMELY SEXUALLY CHARGED, but people rarely fuck strangers, it's just that when it happens it gets very explicit. Also, even if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:38 PM
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I still think a guy has better luck trying to get with a gamer girl if he is a gamer than a normal girl, this is verified by many women that actively complain about partners playing way too many games. Also, the actual live events that gamers go to (tournaments, conferences, some parties), are better than purely online socialization, gotta be there personally, and many don't even bother. IT HOWEVER, is not an excuse to be a loser, get in shape, wear fitting clothes, etc, good looking is kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:32 PM
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I am a promiscuous, junkie, love the music, don't really care about N-count that much (there is reasonables), like if she is 30, with like 30 N's, not exactly that many guys, like 1,5 per year, if she is single this is actually reasonable. Now if i get somewhere like 1k N's, that's concerning, drug dealers involved, concerning too. What i am saying is that this is where I FIT IN, it's a very different world than mainstream culture, so in the same vein, an overly serious, painfully reserved guy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:52 PM
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Personally, enthusiastic can be super awesome, but it can't compensate for 7 whole points. I would say an enthusiastic 4 is superior to a starfish 7. Enthusiastic 6 is superior to a starfish 10. Basically worth some 4 points here. That said if i don't think a girl to be close to a 5, that means i find her "ugly", i would say i need to at least be neutral towards a girl for it to work. Overall as long as i find her attractive (AKA not repulsive), it is a mostly a matter of her behaviour and how s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:26 PM
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I mean treating it as a complete joke is also unnatractive. But i got the most success just being goofy and trying to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:37 AM
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Most cultures are somewhat patriarchal in those indigineous moderns, however they are only slightly so. This is the thing, those cultures promoting that women's primary goal is to help grow the tribe, doesn't necessarily mean they treat their women badly, but certainly means they view them primarily as breeders. Not dissimilar to how boys are seen as basically future servants to help the tribe, be it building hunting or crafting, hell even breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:35 AM
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The answer is not love or liberty that's for sure. Women were treated like breeding stock, as it was since hunter gatherer, however when agricultural cultures came, the respect and reverence for the female figure diminished. We both know that indeed women were forced to be permapregnant, although in some cultures that was a "noble goal" deserving of utmost respect, but mostly they were treated like cattle. As red/blackpilled as i am, i wish for this to never come back ever. We need different sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:16 AM
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I think this is more of a question of WHERE that drive is gonna go, rather than if it will be gone without women. I bet most guys would be tuning up old wolkswagens, learning some manly craft like blacksmithing/woodworking, and getting a high elo at games.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:58 PM
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People are trying to debate without them and it just ends in shouting contests, because their logic doesn't operate on a common plane. Thus discussion becomes endless and pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:07 PM
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You can't do anything of that if you don't take a basis for granted. Because a term like TRP is not a basis, basis would be the shared experiences and facts witnessed by the ones idealizing it, and so, what is really needed is to expose those core basis first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:03 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:59 PM
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Idk it is definitely possible. And also, you can't debate anything without a basic axiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:58 PM
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In this scenario, at least you can build some logical thinking and discussion. At least the conversations flows somewhere, if you can't even agree if the earth is flat or not, then you can't even start talking about climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 PM
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You can't argue with people that don't believe in such axioms or have different ones, because the same question will breed different answers and lead to inconsistency. Just as blackpillers redpillers and bluepillers can't really reach a common ground because their basis is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:17 AM
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It only "helps" in a holistic way. It may change their perspectives and all, but still most men here will remain with their dicks dry and the girls with cats to feed. It's like a guy comes and asks, how to get laid, and a girl tells him "stop being a mysoginist", and he follows the advice and, besides maybe being a better person he didn't get laid either, so his problem is still at square one in a way. I REALLY believe academia should begin offering therapy for these sorry fucks and use it to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:25 AM
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I mean that is a perception clash thing, which is okay. I however believe people arguing aren't coming from a point of trying to either help others or expand their view, instead i see much more basically people preaching what they believe trying to make you join their team.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:14 AM
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I actually would agree with you if discussion was proper. People here rarely say what they believe, instead they are mostly trying to win arguments. And if they don't explicit that personal experience it's worse. I don't really believe a guy struggling to get any attention would really benefit from a second man telling him that it just happens for him, might be true, but ends up just reinforcing bad self esteem from the already fucked up man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:07 AM
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It may be fairly obvious to you, but some people here have cube shaped brains, and can't grasp that. Also it means 99% of discussion is pointless and/or done in bad faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:44 AM
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I mean it might be true but, THIS IS VERY HARD TO BELIEVE, if you can find it i would be turboglad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:15 AM
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The gender ratio wouldn't work out even if they wanted, there are way more men than women in the incel area
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:47 AM
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I think it means, tell me all your innermost secrets while i write them all down to use and abuse against you later. Otherwise if she can't bite your ass for it, she isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:08 AM
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Ultra soyjack cuck language, he is a super simp basically, as in he is incredibly supportive to women no matter what they say........ Even if its stupid.....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:15 AM
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I LOLed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:20 PM
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Well getting dogpilled is weird af /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:12 AM
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Actually when i personally started doing that, i only ever talked what was necessary and always end up in a group. Have i ever got laid because of that, no, but did i have fun, HELL YEAH.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:03 AM
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So both my parent's are present, most of my immediate family is also present and stable, for the country i live in i have an insanely good financial situation. Yet i only ever had a single girlfriend, relationship was toxic yada yada. I actually feel bad about having had that experience because i know deep down what being loved feels like, what sex feels like, but i fear i won't ever get it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:57 AM
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Wrong there are only one category of women. Not because there is only one category, it's more because one is perpetually empty LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:54 AM
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W w wait, i was starting to criticize the post but, it's actually perfect. Imagine if you gave this opportunity to an incel, he would immediately turn into the most cringe heellicker known to mankind, become an ultra soyjack cuck. Really, this is so on point LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:43 AM
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Survive yes, happy, highly doubt it. Especially as i've experienced it, i know what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:40 AM
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I don't know i might be kicked out of the house soon, so i will need a place to stay. I am quite young and virile, have a very high drive. I make delicious Ramen and barbecue, also know how to wash dishes. If any girl needs a housemaid and a hubby i can be both. I currently study engineering so maybe the sugar boy can become a daddy come time. I also want kids eventually. Ladies are lucky i am not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:26 AM
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My understanding is that dropping out is more in line with sabotaging society than doing nothing at all. The goal of not working for those NEETs is to try and hurt the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:22 PM
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You kinda dodged the question, what makes you interesting?, even the intellectual reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:46 AM
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Raves is where you find it, it wasn't me who told you that. But just go and try to make connections with people very calmly, and try to click with them, only after you ask for contacts on drugs. Focus on the visibly fucked up ones LOL. Also better try to enjoy the music or you will creep people out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:44 AM
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You are also trading such hours getting an education and also the fact that those hours might be more intense. In terms of cost benefit for example, a CEO and a zero skills employee with okay salary is quite similar. The CEO earns a lot more but usually works and has studied much harder than the employee, but the employee basically just showed up to work, and bears much less responsibility than the CEO. Idk if you are a man or not, but a lot of guys actually enjoy "backbreaking" (with moderation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:41 AM
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I mean dead end jobs aren't always bad. Like some jobs are just excel spreadsheet work, which means like basically no work ever if you know how excel works. Or stuff like gatekeeping (idk how this job is called in english, the guy who opens the condos doors basically), is another stupidly passive job. Minimum wage sometimes is just an easy ass job, sure sometimes is coal mine levels of work, but you can find some low level good jobs. Hell i would kill for an excel job right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:09 AM
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I mean maybe that guy is trying to fix your libertarian flaws with thunderous conservative dicking. Like women think the scent of pussy cures the flaws of assholes. Both may be flawed, but some succeed, seen it too many times to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:34 AM
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So you are saying that men lie to get laid?!?!? Shocking news.... Now seriously, this is not a problem with being libertarian or not, this same guy would change his pitch to a more conservative girl if she was hot enough. If a guy wants to smash he really doesn't care about playing fair, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:27 AM
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I mean some people define NEET as a dead end job too. Like considering american living standards, a guy with a job can very well rent a micro apartment in a smaller city and do just that working a mcdonalds kind of job. Minimum wage is livable and considering those guys have like zero extra expenses, suddenly a ps5 or a giga TV isn't alien. Meanwhile in a third world country, if i got kicked out of home i would prioritize getting a GF ASAP, no way one can feed himself without at least 2 incomes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:24 AM
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Haha big funny nose LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:17 AM
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I mean maybe not living under a bridge. But i've had PLENTY of friend with homes that LITERALLY had no furniture (maybe a bar table, and some stools. Like the guys would literally have like a 55" TV and a PS5 (not the 5, this was long ago), a big puff, and THAT'S IT. I still have a friend who doesn't have a stove.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:06 AM
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The babies trust you (well their mom) by default, you can only fuck up by making them lose that trust, otherwise you don't instill confidence, you transmit security basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 02:50 AM
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Not to be overly pessimistic but this is mainly bullshit.. Confidence is not gained, insecurity is. Do know babies, yeah the little fucks, won't ever found a more confident person than a baby/child, because confidence is a natural state, we are naturally curious and exploratory. What really happens is that men get negative feedback constantly and get insecure about their sexuality. This gaining confidence thing is much more about challenging those limiting traumas than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 01:43 AM
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Wrong, and ugly man without confidence is not seen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/23 01:37 AM
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Kiddo, i only ever had a single girlfriend, my entire life. Not having access to casual sex i wanted to have didn't stop me from cheating on her, or make me love her more, i just was with her from lack of options. Nowadays i feel bad for having made her suffer while being innocent, but i actually don't regret it, i had no other choice or option if i wanted to get laid. Would never do it again that's why i haven't had sex in a few years... The fact i couldn't get laid casually didn't make me "val…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:41 PM
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Deeply saddening i know.... I just found time to answer it now, but truly i answer you first because it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:33 PM
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Bro drinking beer is a cultural practice since ancient times, it is inherently social and cultural. And tbh i bet you haven't ever attended, because even the ones who aren't fucked up are having a similar nice time and being kind/friendly/receptive/etc. Drugs do play a major role but the enviroment and the culture that the music brings is quite the carrier. 30% psytrance songs are about drugs, 30% about hinduism/india, and 30% is just unity/connectivity/community preaching, which makes you wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:56 PM
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I mean happy in the moment, badboys aren't sadboys, they might have completely fucked up lifes and be kind of assholes, but they often are party animals too and that makes them happy. And besides some drugs just make you happy if you have the right setup, especially mdma and other stimulants in general
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:14 AM
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Yeah it seemed odd to me at first, but i realized that girls are kind of weird in the way they dress, like the most forward and horny girls could as well be wearing bhurkas. Those clothes (or lack thereof), are actually really pretty, so girls having an enviroment where they can be basically nude without creeps harassing them is nice. Not to say guys don't try to flirt or make moves, but they are mostly very respectful about it. And tbh considering the massive amount of couples and such, most gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:12 AM
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Rephrasing, toxic MAINSTREAM culture. In other words the dominant culture in the western societies is toxic af.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:46 AM
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Not really, a bunch of simps still support the gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:45 AM
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Dating apps are too visually focused, they are the epitome of the culture i said most men can't hope to compete in. I like how it worked out for you, but besides the apps, you still had to socialize, break the ice, spit game, which is much easier on a drug filled happy hippie culture place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:45 AM
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Yeah for me it's a hookup thing, FWB ideally, but tbh, i see a LOT of couples, actually a good percentage come with their girlfriends there, so it's actually not all about hooking up. In fact people trying to solely hookup stand like a sore thumb, 99% of people are there to enjoy the music solely, and have the freedom to be goofy, and wear whatever they want, i saw outfits ranging from topless to a full pikachu costume, lots of girls dressed as fairies too. And no i haven't gone on dates because…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:42 AM
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Idk man i think it's because during the events, no one cares/remembers about anything like political strifes or conflicts, that is washed aside. And college and work aren't as immune to that as a party/rave, people are there exactly to run away from that!! Idk exactly but i can feel confortable being my goofy self and using my best tools to break the ice (i love dancing), so i could spend 5 minutes dancing with a random before even asking their names. And that actually comes out as really authen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:37 AM
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Then what is actually touching grass then??? I agree the front line was full of mud, so no grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:22 AM
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Which is a prerequisite for dating....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:20 AM
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I am more of the hyperactive kind of "retard", so making an approach with a girl doing Hakken is much easier than breaking the ice otherwise. And also people are rarely mean to me, which is already an improvement, it may not be love, but everyone gives me a chance and (try) to listen to me. Surprisingly some girls made moves which is bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:00 PM
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Your example is not that good, people might have loved him, but he probably didn't feel loved. Feeling loved is much more important than simply being liked. This is why simply getting a gf would do nothing to a guy self esteem if he doesn't feel she genuinely likes him. Feeling loved and belonging is a need, we are social creatures after all, and considering culture, it is only acceptable for men to get that fix from women. And heterosexual men usually dont enjoy male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:40 AM
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Look this has a few mistakes but they are more complex than they seem. To have sex is a WANT as you won't die, but to achieve heterosexual sex you need a woman, this is just obvious logic, and to not need woman you are kind of required to give up on this want. And you are coming from a peaceful negotiating perspective, most men/women relationships didn't work like that at all, let me explain. Imagine a caveman, now if he saw an attractive woman, would he likely try and become attractive to her, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:44 AM
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I am not op but think for a second, He is likely a heterosexual man, so he indeed need's something from the girls because it can't be sourced elsewhere. And since sexuality is mostly inherit to a person (i never seen someone truly change a sexuality, only getting out of the wardrobe situations), he is indeed at mercy of women to have a satisfying sex life. So yeah i bet he needs something from women, its however simply logical, not a moral shortcoming
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:01 PM
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Honestly many other guys might revel when i type this. But as a (possibly future) father i would totally encourage my daughter to do whatever the fuck she wanted as long as she does that responsibly and safely. If she wants to dress slutty, my job is to warn her of the impact that does to her, men WILL view her differently, similarly if she dresses modestly, and then complain no guy is hitting on her in a club, oh well why could that be LOL. Like i really part from the principle that i am respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:09 AM
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Sometimes its even the guy shit testing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:06 PM
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Actually quite the opposite, numbers only show what a trend is or isn't, mostly. What really matters is what you can do about YOUR situation in YOUR context
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:55 PM
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If you are heterosexual then you need women to have sex, and if sex makes you happy it's because of women. So logically woman will make you happy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:50 PM
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IMHO it would be a woman doing the legwork. Insanely infatuated with the guy who is kind of just going about his life. She invites him to stuff, generally pampers him and is regularly DTF but not necessarily always. If you really want some good examples of this, watch any of those corny romance animes, the plot is literally always this, a nerdy dumb fuck who is just regularly handsome, and a girl does fucking everything to get this guy, does all the active work, basically a weeb's dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:27 PM
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I call bluff on this. I have many friends who are fucked up both looks wise and mentally, and are in some weird fucked up situations. One is currently fucking his cheating ex who is also a cocaine addict, she cheated on him with a dude who is now getting cheated on with the guy she previously cucked. She is mentally ill in many ways and he is too, but ever since he got back to having some form of regular sex, he got visibly better. He confessed to me quite clearly that he in fact hates her and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:22 PM
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The crux of the issue here is there are two kinds of self improvement. The one where the goal is secondary and the ones where the goal is primary. So for example, if you want to go to the gym to lose weight, or be stronger, you have a primary goal, as in going to the gym is directly linked to what you want. However if you go to the gym to get ripped so girls will finally notice you, you have a secondary goal, because you don't actually care about being ripped, you care about women's attention. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:47 PM
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