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DiscussionIckyStickyPoo/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:51 PM
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DiscussionIckyStickyPoo/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:27 AM
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DebateIckyStickyPoo/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 11:39 PM
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ScienceIckyStickyPoo/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 01:55 AM
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Agree. Women associate love with love and will love a man the same before, during and after sex. But... if you're not having sex, then something is wrong (if the person didn't have a low/no sex drive from the start). So, love and sex do go together. Sex is a bonding thing you do together. It doesn't come from "love" - when I want sex, it comes from being horny, but I do feel closer to him afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 10:27 PM
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They are paid for raising children in my country, lol. How much are they paid? What is their weekly wage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:44 PM
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Not the same as earning money yourself. You're then dependent on another human being for your daily bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:38 PM
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Woah, if they paid men those rates weekly for working at their jobs, men would be rich - rich I tell ya! Who the allowance is for Rate (weekly) Eldest or only child £20.70 Additional children £13.70 per child
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 12:37 PM
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Is society even gynocentric? No. Powerful men control society. The richest people in the world control society, most of which happen to be men. What is good for the rich is lots of people to make money from and get even richer. The rich need people continually churning out babies and raising them, so they must make it easy for people to perform this role. Children are a prime focus of society. The greatest idiots in the world believe that women are getting privileges, when in fact they are simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 03:55 AM
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you're not the audience for TRP. you won't ever understand it because it's not for you. Interesting that not even RP can explain that quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:38 AM
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This quote doesn't sum up TRP either. The quote literally says it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:16 AM
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Hmmm, so RP is not just a B movie (as per the top comment thread above), but it's a B zombie movie.... Instead of brrraaaaiiiiins, we hear sssssssex.....ssssssex..... http://majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/msp347.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:15 AM
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'I am man, king of the jungle. All the monkeys either want to bonk me or bother me or be me.' It's the only possible reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:08 AM
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So, you actively tell them to quit analysing women? I hate to tell you this, but I don'tthinkthey'relistening....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:05 AM
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Because it's Red Pill. Ah, based on puffery and fakery then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 12:03 AM
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Explain then why it says that males are the only ones who accomplish anything (and all the other 'creatures' don't).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:52 PM
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killallwhitemen ...was a tweet by an ethnic minority woman who apparently didn't want white men to attend a class meant for minority women. It was a thoughtless tweet, and it's not, nor ever has been, something that sums up an entire movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:49 PM
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That's just 7 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:41 PM
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The quote is not literally true or real, you did not ask me about RP and their theories But the quote is meant to 'sum up RP'. Therefore it is RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:35 PM
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According to our data, which comes from the U.S. government, from anonymous and aggregated spending transactions from Citi, and third party data providers, men spend more than women on just about everything, including dining out, travel and electronics. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/women-vs-men-guess-who-spends-more-2011-11
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:27 PM
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According to our data, which comes from the U.S. government, from anonymous and aggregated spending transactions from Citi, and third party data providers, men spend more than women on just about everything, including dining out, travel and electronics. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/women-vs-men-guess-who-spends-more-2011-11
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:27 PM
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Don't over analyze it. Interesting. Do you ever say that to RP'ers when they are endlessly trying to analyse women? Let's examine this further, shall we?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:23 PM
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Hmmm, so RP and their theories are not 'literally true or real'? It all just 'sounds nice' to RP ears? I think we're getting somewhere... Though, I must admit I'm still very fond of the idea of RP being a B movie set. I'm not sure if I'm willing to let that go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:21 PM
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Male humans, but only some of them. Aha, finally some answers. Thank you, my good sir. The situation is more dire than I suspected. But carry on. Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:17 PM
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But.... yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:16 PM
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women control the vast majority of consumer spending. Men spend more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:14 PM
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It's not a field report, it's a movie quote from a B movie that doesn't exist Interesting. strokes beard So, does it follow that all the RP members are unwitting actors in this B movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:12 PM
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Lol what do animals "accomplish"? Sounds like the poster of that quote would like to make a point of it. Apparently, all the 'creatures' would like to twist the arms of men, so they are accomplishing that, if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:07 PM
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So, it's like yet another fantasy field report? Just meant for motivation? Men need to think that they are the only ones who can accomplish shit to actually accomplish shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:04 PM
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I fail to see anything stupid about raising kids to be assertive and achieve in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:32 PM
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My post says it outright that it's especially about the ability to say no to unwanted sexual advances. Praising girls for looking pretty can go hand in hand with praising them for being smart. Girls seem to be getting the message that pretty is everything. It's a very superficial world and young girls are going crazy for fake everything and unnecessary surgical procedures to alter their bodies. Yes, it's fine to say a girl is pretty, but girls hear it way too much, instead of focusing on what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:31 PM
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That sounds bad, but kids walking around flashing their genitals doesn't.? Say what???!? There is no 'flashing of genitals' in a culture in which nudity is not sexualised. As I said, we don't live in such a culture, and therefore cannot go nude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:21 PM
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The title of the thread itself assumes an either-or decision where one doesn't exist. That's what I was responding to. The title is just a title. I explain what I mean in the body of my OP. It wasn't an either-or. That's just silly. A girl can be a girly-girl and still be taught to stand up for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 09:03 PM
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I'm not sure what kind of daily interactions people are having where they need to constantly fight to be treated well. My OP was specifically talking about a man pressuring a woman to have sex. I treat people nice and take care of them; they treat me nice and take care of me. Yay, everyone wins and no one had to fight. Because all men can nicely take no for an answer from a woman who is nice to him and then take care of her???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:58 PM
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I don’t have to be a raging cunt to get my way you know. There was nothing in my OP about being a raging cunt. That is a non sequitur. I can be assertive. But gently and diplomatically. You're going to be "gentle" to a man who is pressuring you over and over and not accepting a "no"? Sometimes in life, you have to stand up and say what you mean without any shadow of doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:57 PM
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So.... it's "stupid" to try to fix the problem of girls who find it difficult to say no to sex when they don't want it?? When the problem is that girls are currently being brought up in a stereotypical fashion? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:33 PM
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Not sure about the marriage bit. If you're talking about having sex with really young girls, I don't want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:29 PM
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And in what percentage of rape cases is the woman actually knocked out? I have no idea, but if you put up resistance, it's what's going to happen to you. Yes, women do actively avoid certain places all the time. No, men can't just walk wherever, but they are far more likely to be able to walk home at night without being sexually assaulted. A woman would much rather someone punch her and take her wallet than drag her off and rape her. The risks are greater for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:27 PM
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You think girls behave as they do because of their upbringing. Do you also believe lesbians are homosexual because of their upbringing? Some things are innate with girls and boys, and many things are influenced by society. It's easy to see that by the different ways that girls and boys in different cultures behave. Sexual/romantic attraction is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 08:19 PM
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If you put my brain in a females body there would be a very low chance of me being raped. I would punch,kick, scream before any of that could happen to me. In most of the rape cases I read about this doesn't happen. You'd actually have a pretty high chance of being raped. Because you wouldn't have learned the defensive moves that women have - avoiding certain places and situations. Punching and kicking won't help when he knocks you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:47 AM
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Why are rejected off-topic posts from god-knows-where appearing in PPD as comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:45 AM
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I was thinking of the past polynesian cultures, in which sex was pretty free and nudity wasn't seen as sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:41 AM
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Getting sex? By fighting off all the other brazen women who wanted to get into bed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:51 AM
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Someone is desperately looking for attention today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:44 AM
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Australia. Most girls uniforms in Australia are also dresses. And girls won't play naturally in front of boys so they don't show their underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:38 AM
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Every time I visit a playground i see girls in dresses being restricted by those dresses. And i visit playgrounds often - I have young kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:37 AM
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You seem to be having a bad day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:36 AM
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If your daughter is not naturally assertive and you push your own agenda on her in an attempt to make her more "successful", while ignoring what her natural state wants to be, you're failing as a parent. Assertiveness helps in every area of life. Would you also say the same for a boy? That a shy boy shouldn't be helped to be more assertive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:35 AM
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If women are upset that they aren't getting commitment from sex Are they?? I never tried to get commitment from sex. The idea didn't occur to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:34 AM
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In truth I don't know of any parents who discourage their girls from sports and stuff. Like maybe if you're in your new Easter dress, but thats not the same thing. I see girls in playgrounds everywhere finding it difficult to play because they keep stepping on their dress hems, keep trying to pull their dresses down and don't hang upside down so they don't show their underwear. I was such a gorgeous and gregarious child I was treated like a minor celebrity wherever I went, and I think it set me …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:32 AM
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And yet... Women today are different to the women of 1950. I wonder why...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:23 AM
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What that is, is soooooooo unrealistic. There has never been an age or decade in which people always waited for commitment before having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:22 AM
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Well, they could in past civilisations. But we're unfortunately living in one in which children are too often sexually abused. So we need a healthier society first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:20 AM
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I was just having a joke in response to your irony. My view is that what happens in childhood greatly influences the adult you grow into. Just being able to say "no" is helpful in life. Being told you can't do "boy things" and must do "girl things" must have an impact. I didn't say anything about girls being taught to do boy things and not "girly" things or restricting them. I was more about exposing them to lots of different experiences. Same for boys. Teachings in childhood must have a strong …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:18 AM
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It is indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:10 AM
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It doesn't override it. But it helps a lot. Helps in being able to speak up to a man when you're alone with one of them, despite living in a society in which almost all the bad stuff you hear in the news is done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:10 AM
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We don't live in the right society for that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:02 AM
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You don't get it. Men can be damned scary. Not individual men but men in general. Look at the news pumping into our homes every day - news that is full of negative things that men are doing, to men and women. And then you have women being taught to be sweet and pleasing. It's a very difficult mix. It's better that women be taught to be assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:01 AM
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Yes. My guy is extremely loving. The more loving he is, the more love I give in return. I'm not an overly affectionate person. He brings out the best in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:59 AM
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No can do. I'm freezing up and yielding to your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:57 AM
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Watch what they do not what they say Yep, and you see women everywhere loving men who love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:55 AM
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girls who want to be assertive can do it without being taught Not true if they are taught the opposite if they freeze up in those situations then that was something innate With some personalities, but generally, people can be taught not to freeze up and instead simply speak up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:54 AM
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Because tbh, you get even more flies with shit. Okay, that made me laugh - I'm so stealing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:52 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:48 AM
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Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:46 AM
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Am quite certain men confused by women who didn't say "no" to sex when they didn't want sex would rather the women had not just yielded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:45 AM
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I also have an 18 year old son who I make sure is not ashamed of his masculine self. Excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:39 AM
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There shouldn’t be overly specific approaches to raising anyone. As with any other child, girls should be raised in a manner that gives them the capacity to be autonomous, respectful to others and take responsibility for their actions. That sounds very specific. And I agree. All of that can be done without developing an unnecessarily combative personality or chip-on-the-shoulder paranoia about the imagined patriarchy. My OP was nothing about ANY of that. We shouldn’t be trying to engineer sweetn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:33 AM
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human values I like that. I'm sure you're very proud of your daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:30 AM
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Nothing masculine about those traits. And if girls learn to say "no" when something makes them uncomfortable, the better for everyone, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:28 AM
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It has EVERYTHING to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:28 AM
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This served me greatly in my adolescence, especially in my dealings with boys, during which I always felt confident to say NO and understood that it was not my responsibility to placate or please them in any way. That's great. That's the essence of my OP. I still cooked and baked cookies with my grandmother for the whole family, I cleaned up after my male relatives Hope you don't mean you were solely taught to cook and clean up after male relatives while they didnt have to do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:27 AM
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I think parents should raise their children in accordance with the child's character and needs, and not according to a worldview/ideology. Following OP's advice to me is how to be a tone-deaf and calibrated parent IMO. Respond according to what your child needs, rather than what you think they need. I don't understand this in the light of my OP. I wasn't talking about an ideology. These are very simple things. Do you think there are any children, boys or girls, who should be worried about showin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:21 AM
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It's nice to share - but many parents let boys get away with pushing and taking toys away from other kids, but will insist upon a girl giving up her toy and "playing nicely".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:18 AM
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But what about the ones who don't? What about the girls who freeze up and don't say anything when a man touches them sexually? What about the ones who are saying "no" inside but not verbally?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:17 AM
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Wow, my list was made up of extremely mild suggestions about allowing little girls to play and being praised for what they do and not how they look. And you think that's akin to teaching them about sodomy and castration???!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:15 AM
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That statement is overly dramatic. Girls being more assertive is apparently "complete and total female erasure".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 03:12 AM
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Sigh. I did talk about 'preparation'. Women are only just being allowed into certain army roles. They would need to move in in much bigger numbers and rise up the ranks. If men decided it was women's last day today, yes, they could kill us all. And then they would die, too. Most would go nuts and kill each other. The men remaining would die out. And that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 10:46 PM
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That is not a formula. Everyone likes fit bodies and confidence. Newflash - it isn't news.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:51 PM
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I'll raise you about 200 men I know who can't get sex without being in relationships. You know a lotta duds, Lewis Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:50 PM
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LOL, there is a comedian whose name escapes me who told a joke along those lines: "Do you ever wonder when you go out with a woman whether you're going to go home with her that night? Well, she already knows." Yep!! That's one reason why terpers are so funny. They don't seem to know this. Somewhere I recall hearing a funny story about a woman who was going out on a date but didn't want to be tempted to sleep with the guy for some reason, so she wore some really ratty, holey old underwear to help…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 03:48 PM
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When people are paid on performance then men make more hahahahahahahahahahahaha thanks for that laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 01:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:45 PM
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What good deals for men? Having to support a woman and children singlehandedly, and a wife so sexually repressed she disliked it and found it dirty and only wanted to have sex when trying for a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:53 AM
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Men offer money and women offer their bodies. Only if the man is very rich. Otherwise, couples are pretty matched in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 03:03 AM
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I was using a 'sweeping blanket statement' when I said that. And as you just pointed out, sweeping statements don't include everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:57 AM
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And I am asking why it matters when it comes to movies. Females have many varied roles in life. From soldiers to sportsplayers to homemakers to business people to mountain climbers to farmers etc Movies generally highlight extraordinary lives or fantasy lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:15 AM
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It means that a man who is capable of experiencing deep emotions is more valuable in a relationship (in general). He will: love his wife/SO (she or he will feel loved) love his kids/step kids (they will feel loved) feel joy on special family occasions (his happiness will be infectious and will add to the sense of family well-being) feel distress when a close family member is very ill (he will try to help them or at least give emotional support. They will feel supported) have understanding of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:13 AM
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Men don't understand the importance and scope of variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:58 AM
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It's fine to sexualise. We're all sexual beings. The problem is when you treat someone as if they have no other value or abilities or humanity than their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:57 AM
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Correct is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to blanket statements about genders - apart from the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:56 AM
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Yes, really. Women in general don't have much use for unemotional men in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:55 AM
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Men of the most value to women are the ones who are deep emotionally. And this kind of man prefers to be in a relationship. That benefits women. Men who are shallow emotionally are good for sex, and this is a benefit to women (who want casual sex), too. The only women it doesn't benefit are those numbnuts who think they can corner a man with sex - most women are much smarter than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:50 AM
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A dumb reply often comes after a blanket statement. The solution is not to make sweeping, blanket statements about a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:40 AM
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Depthhub is a cesspool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:37 AM
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Say wut? What does that matter when it comes to movies? Men play very, very unrealistic roles in movies - all-action leads, spies, gunslingers, young CEOs etc etc. It's fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:34 AM
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It's more than okay to discriminate against those who are hitting on people who are at a tender age. Including when grown women hit on teenage boys. Creepy. And wrong. Of course, the difference is that you don't tend to hear of boys being abducted, tortured, killed etc by women - so that element is removed. It's not okay to discriminate against all men because of a percentage who do these things - no. But it IS understandable that teenage girls have an extra element of fear in terms of men hitti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 01:15 AM
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You don't get it. Male actors post pictures that sexualise them - but they don't expect to be treated as nothing but sexual objects because of it. A male actor can be a 'heart throb' and still get parts as an action lead or a spy or a CEO of a company etc. A woman 'heart throb' is likely to get parts in which she's just there in a supporting role in which she does nothing but show off her cleavage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 01:06 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:45 PM
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I think your OP is a bit confused. You're talking about a controlling grandmother, not a feminist with feminist beliefs. Feminists don't believe in anyone controlling women. I agree with you in allowing your daughter to discover her own obstacles and not have her head filled with someone else's beliefs or a victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:45 PM
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Let me make this easy for you, Mr Smoogs. How often do you see news reports of teenage girls who have raped, abducted, tortured or otherwise harmed adult men??? Now, tell me, how often do see news reports of adult men who have raped, abducted, tortured or otherwise harmed teenage girls or women? We can do it like this if you like - you find all the news reports of predator teenage girls in the past month and I'll find the news reports of predator adult men - and then we'll compare. And we're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:12 PM
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heheh I don't have the strength to go full crazy on the idjeets in here. One of them just used the word "shit" in a comment to me about 5 times over because he couldn't control his rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:00 PM
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That's not feminist. That's controlling. In feminism, a woman should be able to forge her own path, whatever that may be. Being a homemaker is perfectly acceptable. Nothing wrong with sports, not everyone needs to go to uni, not every woman needs to push through the glass ceiling. Not having a focus on finding a husband is a good thing when you're young, because you haven't lived enough of life to know what you want out of life yet. Peopple who marry under age 25 have the highest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:53 PM
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Happy feminist here. My SO does not have the reins and neither do I. In previous relationships, my husband/SO's tried to grab the reins - it was awful. If I'd been raised feminist, my life would have run so much easier. I never would have got married too young and as a virgin (huge mistake) and would have never accepted the shit behaviour from my husband that I did (my family's religion said that I must stay with him) and I would have done things so much differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:49 PM
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Everyone wants to be viewed as a human being - a whole human being with thoughts and feelings and ability to feel pain and love and capacity to achieve. No one wants to be viewed as having value by their body parts only. Because if you are viewed for body parts only, then it goes way back to a prehistoric fear of being eaten (by animals or other humans) or used for those parts (as slaves or raped etc). Women have a long history of being seen by men (the dominant gender) as something for his use,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:38 PM
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Yes, it's a problem if she won't take a morning after pill. If he offers to pay for it and goes with her to get it, and watches her take it, it's more likely to happen. That's a lot of complaining about male contraception. Feminists bankrolled the female pill. Many men didn't want the female pill to happen, but it happened anyway, because money. That's why I'm saying men should get together and bankroll male contraception. Did you know it's already actually here and working? All they need now is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:22 PM
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No, men and women should each take responsibility for their own bodies and what happens to their sperm and eggs. Women don't have "all the power". They only have power over their own bodies. Men have power over their own bodies, too. They can wear a condom or get a vasc. Yes, birth control fails sometimes. Men should be aware of this before they have sex and do everything they can to prevent it from happening. Men do not know if a woman will change her mind about abortion or if she won't be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 09:14 PM
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Doesn't matter. Men have equal power beforehand to stop it. He then has no care about the 'after'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:41 AM
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If a condom should break, she can take a morning after pill. She still doesn't need to be on libido-sucking, cancer-producing hormones all year long. Men should be bankrolling male contraception and stop whining and expecting women to do everything and take all responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:40 AM
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Ah, you couldn't handle straight out logic. Ejaculation of sperm into a baby making device is known for making babies. It's like putting a naked flame near kindling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:37 AM
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Men have all the power they desire pre-sex in terms of reproduction. And they should exercise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 08:00 AM
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You can say that, but the fact is that women own their own bodies and can choose what happens. So the onus is on men to choose what happens to their sperm. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:51 AM
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Women have options that mess with their mind and bodies and hormones. Fuck that. If a woman has casual sex a few dozen times a year, why is it worth it to her to ruin her hormones all year long? Nope. Better to insist on the men wearing condoms. Better for avoiding a number of STDs too. You say questioning a woman can kill a sexy mood? Will it be a 'sexy mood' killer if she has a baby he doesn't want? Better to wrap his dick to avoid all that, don't you think? It's simple. If women have the choi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:49 AM
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Women do rape men all the time. Women do rape men, yes. But it's not okay. Which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:44 AM
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No. Although I've seen it happen, I haven't seen it often, and the woman was very drunk. Women don't do this because they don't need to. If all they want is a casual fuck, men will swarm in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 03:11 AM
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And men also have a particular responsibility to ensure that they are fully protected before having sex. If they are not 100% certain that the woman they are bonking - hasn't been ill lately (illnesses such as a vomiting virus or diarrhea can affect birth control) hasn't taken a medication or supplement that could affect her birth control will definitely abort should she become pregnant is of sound mind does not have any personality disorders is not especially fertile and may become pregnant eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 03:08 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:59 AM
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Rapists are more likely to come from the poorer socio-economic backgrounds - whether the father is there or absent. Sexually hesitant men are more likely to be shyer from birth. Boys who are outgoing from birth are far more likely to approach girls. You'll see the difference in the playground between boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:59 AM
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So thugs have a male role model and the sexually hesitant don't? Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:48 AM
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The "final choice" belongs to both. If only women have the "final choice" then women raping men would be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:46 AM
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No, comments that aren't on point or don't add to the debate belong under automod. Satire can be a debating technique, used to highlight a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 02:45 AM
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The rest of my post was satire, meant to highlight the stupidity of blaming women alone for something both men and women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:21 AM
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Why put all the responsibility on women? Can't men be responsible too? Sounds like you want to let men get away with sticking their dicks into known baby making devices (female genitals).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:20 AM
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To my knowledge, none of my friends have sent nudes to guys they weren't dating. Sending nudes to strangers isn't bold, it's plain weird and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:00 AM
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Nah. Women love sex, too. Therefore, the onus is on everyone. We need to work out how to stop these men and their dicks. I guess some kind of forced chastity belt? The belts could let the wee out but not allow PIV. That could work. Someone has to stop these guys. They're ruining society. Or just straight-out sterilisation. That would save lots of women from having their offspring. Whaddya reckon??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:47 AM
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Women absolutely DO make bold moves on men. I've been out to lots of nightclubs with friends in my life. Cannot count the number of times I've seen one of my girlfriends, or another woman, just rock up to a guy and try to get him onto the dance floor. Dates have absolutely come from that. My single friends contact men they like on dating sites. And they will tell someone to tell a man they like that they'd like a date with him. A good looking guy will get female attention, without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:39 AM
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How the hell does a woman who doesn't even know she's a Jedi is able to use a Jedi mind trick at random to get out of a chair? How is a random girl with no training whatsoever able to beat Kylo Ren? A male who's trained for years when she hasn't really fought anything of substantial value. I thought everything came to Rey far, far too easily, too. I liked the movies, but thought that aspect was ridiculous. Yes, it is poor writing. Happens in a ton of movies with male leads - the men are able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:38 AM
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Good looking men will not get laid if they do not know how be dominate and escalate. You're kidding me, right? A good-looking guy will be pounced on by girls. The most confident girls (and even some of the less confident) won't let a hot guy get away if they can help it. If you're talking about just casual sex and not relationships, yes, he'll have to work a bit harder, but not that much harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:28 AM
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abusive and harmful mothers also have a similar effect stunting social and psychological development in boys and young men who later display mild to severe issues relating to women. Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:24 AM
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Negative. Rapey men most often come from a background of criminal behaviour - in their family and social sphere. If their father is a rapey criminal, the son is far more likely to be. A single mother who kept a tight rein on her children and earned enough to keep the family well out of poverty (together with love) is more likely to raise kids that achieve in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:11 AM
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The most assholish and rapey thug types often have the most overly loving and controlling mothers. Negative. Such men are far more likely to come from households in which the kids are routinely neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:08 AM
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Too bad lots of deadbeat, degenerate men run about sticking their bareback dicks into women. What can we do about these men? Sterilise them? Any suggestions on these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:05 AM
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I can't say, I'm afraid. I don't read romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:02 AM
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I don't even recognise the word 'beta' when it comes to human beings. I was just listing books that have male main characters that are not typical 'alphas'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 05:01 AM
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Women generally dislike submissive men, because they are looking for signs that a man is a man. To a woman (generally), a submissive man is like taking on a child who will never grow up. But as for books - there are lots in which the men are not stereotypical alpha males. 'Reverse harem' books are huge. In which a woman has a sex with a group of men devoted only to her. And they are not stereotypical, because the men are willing to share. Typical romance books with non-typical male love interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:09 PM
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Maybe you felt the same way. She obviously didn't, and you missed the signs. I'd have a hard time believing she was in love with you right up to the time she met the cashed-up beta. I could run off with any number of cashed up betas if I wanted to. But I wouldn't give up what I have. What I'm saying is that RP's view of women is wrong. Most women would choose love over a cashed up beta. I'm sorry she left you in the way that she did. I hope you have a new beginning now with someone much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:40 PM
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Men design things for efficiency. Shame that school didn't use to be all that efficient. It didn't really result in stoics either. Kids dropped out as soon as they could. Kids weren't taught to think for themselves. Loads of schools run by men were later found to be abusing the kids. As a man, I've always had harder time learning from female teachers, and they always outnumbered male teachers. But ultimately in the end, I learned better when I learned by myself. I think both boys and girls need …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:35 PM
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Ditch RP teachings, but keep the real world teachings about caution and boundaries. It's what someone does that matters most, not what they say. And remember that love is real - despite what RP says. When I think about my partner, I feel a rush of love. That's after 7 years together. No 'chad' can come in between that. I mean, for what? A bit of worthless posturing and cheap, practised Chadly behaviours? - that's all as hollow as fuck. RP fail to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:10 AM
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True, but that 50% can become all you need. After 7 years with my partner, I've discovered I didn't need the other 50%. It all just worked and is better than what I originally wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:03 AM
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Girls are taught to please, but they're still not "acting like themselves" to sit at a desk all day. Just because you don't act out, doesn't mean you're not affected. Who or what do you think men design things for?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:58 AM
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People tend to think that everyone deserves to find love. People don't tend to think that everyone deserves casual sex. When men talk about their 'need' to 'pump and dump' - I'm afraid no one has any sympathy. Likewise, if a woman talks about her need to extract wealth from one man after the other, no one would have any sympathy - if she's too unattractive to do it, then why should she feel entitled just because pretty women can easily do it??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 02:39 AM
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school teaches little boys how to act like little girls. Really? In fact, school teaches kids to behave in an unnatural way - tied to a desk most of the day and doing work they don't like. Is that acting like girls??? The education system was designed by men and has been followed ever since, except that hitting students has been outlawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 02:34 AM
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Sorry, most women don't enjoy sucking dicks, but do it for their man anyway. A small % of women enjoy it. They wouldn't enjoy it even if men heaped praise on 'cocksuckers'. And yep, that includes sucking chad's schlong. It's an awkward, boring and tiring thing to do that doesn't turn most women on- in fact it turns many women off if they're expected to do that before every sex session or a few times a week. But the whole "ya cocksucker" insult really does filter into the heads of young women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:41 AM
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Yeah but it keeps decreasing. That says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:36 AM
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Sorry, but most women dislike cock sucking. I've heard this way too many times from way too many women. When they do it, it's to please their man. A small % of women actually like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:35 AM
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Huh? Women can be attracted to older men. I'm just talking in general. In general, women of all ages are the most sexually attracted to men aged 24-30.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:33 AM
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Yes but women hear it as "an insult". In general. They also hear "ya sissy" as a general insult. Girls grow up not wanting to be seen as sissy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:32 AM
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Not seeing it You don't have to "see it". Stats say that age gap in marriage has decreased.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:48 AM
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They're attracted to them for relationships, and can be sexually attracted as well, but they will still find men who are 24-30 the most sexually attractive. Women aged 40-70 are the biggest group of readers, and romance is the biggest (or second biggest) genre they read - and the main male characters are usually aged 24-30. Everything from sweet romance to erotic romance. The covers feature shirtless young men with full heads of hair and muscles. If 65-year-old women were sexually attracted to 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:43 AM
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You're talking about RMV. Her sexual attraction is different. And, increasingly, women aren't opting for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:42 AM
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They prefer slightly older men. Usually no more than 3 years. Because the guy will be a bit further advanced in career. She still lacks the same choices men do if she ever wishes to have babies. Her sexual attraction will be for men in her age group up until around age 24-30. And her sexual attraction for men in that age group (24-30) will be lifelong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:39 AM
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Yeah and who was attacking the girl? So, women need men for protection from.... wait for it... men. Do you see the elephant in the room here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:33 AM
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The overton window is being confused with is desirable in men's eyes and what is desirable in women's eyes. Old men have never been "acceptable" to young women - they always seemed creepy. 18-year-old women weren't sexually attracted to much older men, but they had far fewer choices in life. Men were sexually attracted to 18-year-old women, so it was a good deal for them and not something that needed changing. It wasn't the overton window acting on women's views, but the greater choices in life …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:29 AM
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Not from women's point of view. And if men wanted it more, then they should stop using the term 'ya cock sucker' as an insult. You guys make it sound hugely undesirable. In fact, it's been a habit of men over centuries to put down just about everything women do. I wonder what the consequences of that are??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:10 AM
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They are doing that because they do not have male protection anymore. Women never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 03:02 AM
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A big yes. He has thick hair to his shoulders, sexy eyes, sexy smile, tall and nice body. I first saw him only in photos, and he was mega cute. I wanted to take him to bed there and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 05:30 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 03:17 AM
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Aren't you supposed to be ceasing to give me any attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 02:09 AM
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Endless easy-to-catch pigs with all of their fat, piggy fat. And nothing to do but lie about and enjoy the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:57 AM
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They can be. I'm picturing island-type pigs: https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/403142604125087834/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:55 AM
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That's because you're not a married man who is dissatisfied sexually. How do you recommend a man who has done everything I described above and still doesn't get sex from his wife, go about getting it? I've been in an LTR in which the guy hardly ever wanted sex. He worked at home and was a workaholic. There was no way of getting sex from him. I ended up leaving him. I certainly wouldn't have cheated because that's the shitty way to go about it. I gave myself the best chance to find someone more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:53 AM
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My hypothetical island has the kind of pigs they had on survivor island. Just pink, friendly dog-like pigs. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:50 AM
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Women who need no such provisioning fall in love with betas all the time. You are being poisoned by red pill rubbish. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:48 AM
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Woo!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:47 AM
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Hide behind gay lube if you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:47 AM
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Eh...If I suffered some horrible accident and lost my dick, I'd hope my wife would stay faithful. However, I wouldn't begrudge it too much if she cheated That wouldn't make me cheat on my guy. Faithful is faithful. I actually thought you were a woman until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:45 AM
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More like most women settle down and marry betas regardless of real attraction. No, dude. Settle down. A man doesn't need model looks for a woman to find him attractive and fall in love with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:41 AM
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Then marry Wilson.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:39 AM
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Gimme some'o'dat ginge... https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/f4/ee/4af4ee1e31c1cb9b9006c73e17090e56--redhead-men-ginger-guys.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:37 AM
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What's wrong with his face? His only issue is he's overweight. His face could be seen as pleasant. Buartha is saying (I think) is that you disprove the claim by rp that women are only attracted to the top % of Chadly looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:35 AM
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A few others would act on their bisexual urges. Yes, they would. After ww2, quite a few women began living in same-sex relationships, due to lack of marriageable men. Would be interesting to know if all of them were actually lesbian/bi-sexual, or some were simply desperate for companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:28 AM
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are women more attracted to other women than to betas? No. There's your answer. Most men are what rp refer to as betas. Most women happily fall in love with and marry betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:19 AM
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Pigs act like dogs - they are friendly and come to you for attention. Easily caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:17 AM
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Its fairly straight forward. If you aren't getting fucked by your wife, and you're not a fat fuck slob, go get it elsewhere. Not sure why you'd be against this. I'm against it because I think it's better he divorce her, so that he can live more honestly and allow her to go find a better relationship. Rather than lying and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:15 AM
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I'm going to stop giving you attention I support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:13 AM
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Harvey Weinstein is not rp. This is embarrassing for you. You can't dig yourself out by keeping referring to Weinstein. Most of the quotes I posted, including the first one, are NOT about Weinstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:08 AM
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Eh? The first link is about marriage, dude. By one of your endorsed contributors. I'm not looking for ghosts. It's just what I've seen when reading rp. I showed you the links and quotes. Now you're backing out. And that's okay. I expected that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:01 AM
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He eats bulk meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:56 PM
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My answer? Either 2. or 4. Probably 2. I like sex too much to go without. I regretfully have never fantasised about having sex with a woman, though I do find them attractive. To have sex with someone, I must be attracted to them physically. Therefore, the man is out and the woman is in. Though it would take me a long time to warm to the idea of that, I'm sure it would just seem normal after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:54 PM
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In my scenario, he doesn't lose weight, nor get any hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:47 PM
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Don't change goalposts then ask me to prove a new goalpost. I don't even know what you mean by 'uncle vas' or 'silverbacks'. But here, as I claimed, are rp'ers encouraging the use of sugar babies. Before you embark on your journey into a new (or many new) vaginas, understand that you may blow up your marriage. You should fully accept that before you go ahead. Then mentally divorce that woman who is not fucking you. You should follow all the usual red pill advice, lift, learn game, follow your mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:39 PM
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For the blood to start flowing, I have to have a fantasy or some thought, or something happen in my brain. I basically get a brain boner, then blood starts flowing, then I'm randy. It doesn't matter if it's the same piece of erotica I've read 1,000 times. People don't realise it's happening. Well, easier for men to realise it because they get a bit of a boner. Women's 'penis-equivalents' are hidden inside their bodies. Some women are more sensitive to it happening and notice it more than others.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:33 PM
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Is it reasonable for a woman to assume that children should be part of a marriage without asking about it first, or not pressing for a hard agreement on it? Yes. Children are usually expected to follow a marriage at some point after marriage. If someone absolutely does not want children, then they should be sure to state this and ensure they marry someone who is on the same page. At the same time, it's best for the person who does want children to talk about this with their partner before marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:14 PM
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People often end up doing or trying things they say they aren't open to doing. Of course they do. What I'm saying is that men can't lead a woman to sex if she has decided she isn't open to casual sex, most of the time. Also, what I'm saying is that women lead themselves to sex, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:05 PM
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I don't understand how feeling aroused sparks arousal Your body sends blood to certain areas. You realise you're horny when you begin to feel aroused due to this engorgement. They're aesthetically pleasing, but I'm not sexually attracted to them the way I am to a man's body. Oh I'm definitely attracted to a man's body in a totally different way. In all honesty, if you are, then you might be a bit further towards the middle of the Kinsey scale (while still staying far enough in the straight direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:59 PM
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Well then you agree with me. Yes. What I meant in the other comment is, the question is not so much if women in hindsight or open or closed to the idea of casual sex, it's more of what they think in the right moment with a man. Yep, I got you. But I still don't 100% agree. It definitely is more a case of a woman being open to the idea of casual sex beforehand. A woman who isn't open to the idea is just not going to have it - am not saying never, but close to it. If she's open to the idea, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:46 PM
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Lol, that sugar baby guy was not rp. It's was obvious he was processing his divorce. Tons of rp'ers are using sugar babies. They sometimes openly admit it or encourage others to use them. The rest are just saying "Yeh, I'm pushing 40/50 but all these hot young 21-year-olds want me bad". Still, for the rest... Wife only has to be pleasant, sexually available, honest and take care of herself. Why is it so few seem willing to? Even when she just gave birth a few weeks ago, has toddlers 24/7, has se…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:42 PM
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Women are turned on by the fantasies going through their head at that point, or the bodice ripper/50 shades of gray she just read. But what causes fantasies to go through their heads and what causes them to read erotica? Natural arousal happening in their bodies/minds, that's what. Straight women are not bisexuals or lesbians. Although this wasn't my point, yes, we are turned on by women's bodies. Women's magazines are full of women in bikinis. If a topless man and a topless woman walks down the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:14 PM
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I know with all of my heart that without societies constraints women would be incredible sluts. I also believe that. Not all women, but most. It's what was natural in former Polynesian cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:09 PM
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Women do not value the availability or "casual" nature of a sexual encounter, they value the excitement and feelings it brings them. Some women, yes. Women are not opposed to sex shortly after meeting a man if he arouses and excites them enough. She would have to already be open to the idea of casual sex. Generally she would also already be horny or drunk or an excitement-seeker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:06 PM
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Very few men have the ability to inspire that kind of lust in a woman unless she is already predisposed to hooking up or drunk. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:04 PM
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The women who are attracted to men off the bat aren't making them wait 3 months to have sex with them. I do. It's not about "making them wait". It's just about making sure of who the person is first and being comfortable in myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:04 PM
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women get turned on by being wanted To a greater degree, women simply get turned on by their own bodies. Bodies want sex. It's biological. Vibrators don't "want you" yet women still "have sex' with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 09:00 PM
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Have you really never known a girl who's had sex in a semi-public place, blown someone in the back of a taxi, etc? That stuff can all be really hot to certain women, including women in relationships. But zitdok is still right. The excitement for the woman comes from her desire - NOT from how quickly and easily she got the guy to have sex with her. In other words, she doesn't gain any validation from the ease and speed in which she gets to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:58 PM
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Lots of people who want to screw it up anyway No argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:53 PM
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I honestly believe RP'ers are better off not marrying. It wasn't a quick jab at all. This goes deep. Trust me, it doesn't make me smile when I read married rp. What do I read on married rp? I read about men who are talking about staying with wives that they find unattractive (but are good mothers) until the kids grow up, and then get divorced - while fucking sugar babies etc on the side all the while. I read about men manipulating wives with cold, childish behaviours when they don't get sex/get …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:51 PM
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If she is in this setup, the only reason she will leave me without a second thought is because my SMV is very very low. And that means I simply failed. How can you frame it as 100% you failing if she cheats or leaves you? Some women just want attention or are flaky people and it's not due to the "failure" of their husbands that they are like this. Some women will never cheat, no matter how awful their husband/partner is, because they don't believe in it (I'm in that category. And I've had an awf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:36 PM
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50% divorce rate means that some woman divorced their husbands and some did not. Also, among that 50%, some of the divorced husbands will be incompatible with family life, and some of the husbands will have divorced the women because they want to return to the single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:25 PM
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Yes, It is not red pill to GET married AFTER you "swallow the pill", and those guys will tell you that, but they use red pill to improve marriages that already exist In that case, red pill marriages will die out, once the people in marriages currently die (or those marriages combust). So, no, you're wrong, red pill concepts are just as important and applicable to marriage as they are to single mens lives. Not really, because the concepts only apply to existing marriages. Single RP men aim not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:21 PM
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the Red Pill only harvests them for their vaginas Otherwise known as "field reports". Otherwise known as "Chad fan fiction". Otherwise known as "fantasy".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:15 PM
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A nation with degenerate marital values will be outbred and replaced in several generations. And yet... Western Europe thrived - from the 1600s onward - when the vast majority of its women married in their mid-twenties, and they worked until that age. Now, with a huge number of women working in careers until age 30-35 and then having children, the west will do even better. From strength to strength. All we need do to create stronger families/more children is to make combining a career and childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:09 PM
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I was agreeing with an RP'er. Christ on a bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:54 PM
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Then who should? People who want to get married and have families and love & respect each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 07:53 PM
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Having a kid is not a meal ticket. It's a ticket straight down. Why did you rely on someone else for your own protection against having a kid? Women's birth control can fail at any time, without them even knowing. If she and you were rowing a boat across the top of a massive waterfall, would you happily fall asleep and let her row? Your partner of 2 years is telling you she has it under control, but she's no expert in rowing. Or would you stay awake to check you were both steering the right cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:44 PM
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Enthusiastic cheers I agree. Marriage is not RP. RPers should not marry and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:28 PM
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The question must be asked - how the hell would you sexually satisfy 4 women?? If the relationship is one-sided, as you said you wanted, they couldn't go elsewhere for sex. But what if each one wanted you in their bed, having sex with them every night?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:25 AM
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Um. No. There's little to nothing makeup can do to make someone look younger. Even if you're speaking on plastic surgery majority of women can't afford that and that doesn't even make you look younger. What are you rattling on about? I'm not talking about women trying to look younger. I'm saying women now have the liberty of choosing a man for his looks over his wage, because they earn money, too. Women still want a man who earns well, but looks are the major factor. But either way that still do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:50 AM
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I'd rather have been killed by my in-laws than be made into a wage slave by the government. Death is better than what that woman did to me, and I mean that. If you didn't want kids, why'd you have unprotected sex? I fully support men's options. Men, use your options not to have unprotected sex - take responsibility for where your sperm goes. After all, your sperm doesn't just blow down the street, and zot, impregnate random women by osmosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:09 AM
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Income comes from both employment and investment return. I don't really understand your challenge, seems like you are trying to be right for some reason. I'm just stating the facts of what it's like here in my country. I'm not trying to be "right". Investments can make a big difference, but not everyone invests, and here in Australia, just paying the mortgage can take everything you've got. An average house in Sydney is a million dollars. Just a 3-bedroom, single storey, very ordinary house.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:01 AM
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Women don't value looks as much as they do money and status. Increasingly, they do. They used to not be able to afford to do so. These days, they can, and they do. Maybe if you're like 60 but at 30-45 the value still goes up and men can still have sex. Lmao. Women's womb begin to close at an earlier age than them anyways. Women are becoming very aware. I don't think men have any idea how much women discuss men's sperm online (women who are actively thinking about/trying to conceive/or just plann…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:55 PM
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$150,000 is a big jump from $100,000 (which is the minimum for 6 figures). Lots of mechanical and civil engineers in Australia are earning $80,00-$90,000 in their first couple of years out of university. By age 27-29, they're earning $100,000. Earnings plateau once people hit their mid-thirties, so they generally really can't expect to be keep earning more as they grow older than that. So, $105,000 etc might be their ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:45 PM
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And they say male solipsism isn't a thing. Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:35 PM
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None of this theorycrafting about sperm and icky older men matters IRL So you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:35 PM
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They really don't. If you keep making money your SMV goes up. If you workout you'll be fine too. You're looking at it from a man's perspective. He thinks his value should go up. But from a woman's perspective, he doesn't look as good as he did in his twenties (in general) and if she wants children, then she wants a man who (generally) is no more than 5 years older than herself. Because his sperm will be better than the older man and he'll stay younger longer for the kids as they are growing up. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 11:00 PM
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Men don't peak. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:10 PM
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I think men find pride in providing for women. It's also the source of the most marital breakdowns. Men find the grind of providing to be too much over time, and the fights escalate. Relationships in which the women provides as well lifts the burden from him. Money makes things a lot easier. Lack of money and the stress of young children etc can make for a stressed couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:09 PM
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Men desire young, fit and fertile until they die. So do women. Which is why so many read romance novels that feature young, fit and fertile men. Realistically, most men and women cannot have such partners their whole lives, and also, they choose to have someone to be their life partner and build a family & children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:06 PM
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Well men don't peak in their early 30's, but their mid-late thirties. This is about the time that the nerds. This is where the people who have been concentrating on their careers, but aren't geniuses, will start to hit 6 figures (and a sizable investment pot), putting them miles above of most people who have been job hopping. That must be in the US? Loads of men here in Australia - whether they are tradesmen or university-educated, will hit 6 figures in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 10:03 PM
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That sort of age difference happens more in the second/third marriage set, where he's 55 and she's 42. Even at those ages, I don't think it happens that much. Most 55 year old men look old to a 42 year old woman. Her dating range is more likely to be 38-48. (Unless she's very unattractive, in which case her options narrow)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:55 PM
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From my observations, she still dates A for fun but she eventually enters a relationship with B. Nope. Choice A would never be 'fun'. She'd date a 22-year-old Chad for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:51 PM
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Stinkin' rotten spermjackers!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 12:23 AM
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I am fairly certain that T is strongly correlated with libido though. Do you disagree? It's correlated, but not the only hormone etc correlated with sex drive in women. For instance, I have a high sex drive, but normal T for a woman. A trans person presents a different issue. The fact that the person identifies as male generally means that their brain is partly 'male'. They'll respond differently to T than a woman who identifies as female will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 12:22 AM
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I'm pretty certain that all women report heightened sex drives when dosed with T. Are you? Here is an article about women with low T - it even includes a blood test readout: https://www.restartmed.com/low-sex-drive-women/ It talks about why T can get low. But women who do not have low T but also a low sex drive can't be helped by adding T. It can be difficult to determine which women can be helped by T: How to identify women whose low desire might stem from low testosterone activity remains unkn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:45 PM
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I'm pretty certain that all women report heightened sex drives when dosed with T. Are you? Here is an article about women with low T - it even includes a blood test readout: https://www.restartmed.com/low-sex-drive-women/ It talks about other causes of low sex drive in women - if those aren't fixed, all the T in the world will NOT help. There is a reason that researchers are looking elsewhere to improve the sex drive of sexually hypoactive women: Sometimes, flibanserin is called the “female Viag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:43 PM
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I would guesstimate that half the women in this comments section have been cold approached and then kiss or fuck closed later that week. Loads of cold approaches. Not once did it go any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:06 PM
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Seriously, have you actually seen women who look like models approach men? They don’t because they don’t need to. I have, because I have a large number of friends who are models. (Goes with one of the two businesses I run/used to be in). The women who like the quieter guys will 'make it known' that they find a certain guy cute. Why do they do that? Because they don't always like the men who approach, that's why. If they only get to choose among the 'approachers' they might not get the men they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 09:02 PM
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Only to read and listen to testimonies of women who are injected with high doses of testosterone and what this does to their personality and sex drive. lol if T could fix the sex drives of women with low drives, there would be NO women with low sex drives. Thing is, it ONLY works for women who happen to be deficient in T. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:52 PM
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Those evil succubi can be tempting, but in the end they will only suck you dry of your life force. Yes. Do NOT give them any of your sperm. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:47 PM
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Men are hierarchical: your status in the pecking order is constantly scrutinized, and failure to maintain your position results in less status. So are women. They ALWAYS were. Pecking order exists for women as well. They used to gain status & hierarchy through their husbands (which is why so many wanted to marry doctors & ceo's). But these days, they are increasingly competing on the grounds of getting college degrees, making their own money and building their own businesses. (And often also mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:46 PM
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I can't imagine a younger guy older girl combo though. I just can't imagine it. What's it like? Best relationship I've ever had. Not because he's younger - just because of who he is. How can you respect him? Why would him being younger mean that I don't respect him? A man being older means nothing. Men can be childish, demanding, tantrum-throwing etc at any age. I don't hold respect for older men simply because they're older. That would be pretty dumb. I have more love and respect for my partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:37 PM
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Been that guy. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 08:18 PM
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Manhood is something you have to continually earn. How? I see men going to work, hanging out on the weekend with friends and having a drink and a laugh, buying stuff, going away on trips, playing with their kids. At times, they've lost their jobs or become very ill for months. There have been lots of relationship breakups. Some have been through a lot - divorce, death of loved ones. Others have sailed through. I've had the same groups of friends since school, and also many new (via work & parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 11:27 PM
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Gasp, feminists are individuals. And sometimes they ask opinions of other women or feminists on something they're not sure about. All part of growing up and navigating the world you find yourself in. The woman who wrote that post actually wants to be approached and asked out. That's different to many women, who would dislike that. I understand the guy asking if she has a boyfriend first. And she did state that he was polite, so I'm guessing he was asking first out of politeness (and also so as n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:32 PM
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how many women here actually identify as feminists yep. defend this sort of shit nup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:25 PM
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modern Slut Walk feminism Music to my ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:24 PM
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Young women date older by 10-20 years men all the time. All the time. Sorry, but a late 30s/40s man who is a 5/10 (as stated in the post I was replying to) is very unattractive to a young woman. If he doesn't have money, she wouldn't date him (and most young women will go for a young man with good looks over an older man in any case, money or not) Yes, young women do date older men. But 'all the time' is misleading. Marriage stats tell us that the largest group of couples are aged within 3 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 06:09 PM
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You're looking at physical ability, not leverage in the dating market. Physical ability is still important but has less important in a post-physical labor world I'm looking at what was stated in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 05:55 PM
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I have come to this realization that right now my SMV is at its highest its ever been (maybe the highest it will ever be (physically)) and yet I continue to stay true as a MGTOW. Knowing this, its difficult to maintain being MGTOW when I could be going out with attractive women, instead of what I pulled in college. Stay strong, brah. May the mgtow force be with you and shield you from the wimmins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:40 AM
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20s: Physical 10/10 + Status 5/10 = 15/20 Late 20s - Early 30s: Physical 8/10 + Status 8/10 = 16/20 Late 30s - 40s: Physical 5/10 + Status 10/10 = 15/20 You're looking at that from a man's perspective. From a young woman's perspective (under 30), the late 30s - 40s man who is a 5/10 physically and a 10/10 in status is still just a 10/20 or less. If money is her goal, she'll go for him. But for most young women, he's out of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:35 AM
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Men peak at age 25 or younger. They will never do better than this age. https://www.wired.com/2011/07/athletes-peak-age/ Career-wise, a man will generally peak much later. If he's an entrepreneur or entertainer, he can peak at any age from 16-old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:28 AM
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I did. Now I'd like others to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 02:41 AM
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It's a thought, but it isn't possible. When women stay home and men control the workforce, then men have all the power and women have zero. And the more and more male-led society grows. What is built and what happens in a society will be based on the interests of the most powerful males. Women become a servant-class who are there to serve men and children. It's totally fine for a woman to choose to spend her life as a homemaker, but she benefits from all the women who choose to go out to work. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 02:28 AM
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As long as feminists frame rape as female victim male aggressor it doesn't matter what they do. They've also been framing it as male victims and female aggressors. At the same time, feminists recognise who the majority of victims are and who the majority of perps are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 01:16 AM
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There is plenty here you could learn if you put your agenda aside for a moment. I am only willing to learn from facts, not from speculation and anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 01:15 AM
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You just don't like the fact that the opinion disagrees with yours. I didn't state any opinions in my OP. I asked a question, gave some facts and invited discussion based on facts. You claimed that 'bpd women are big on false rape and DV accusations'. I'm asking where are the links and quotes on this. Nowhere did I say I disagree with it. I can't disagree because I do not know the facts on it. If you do know the facts, quote them and link them. Otherwise, it's wild speculation. I posted plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 01:14 AM
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BPD women are big on using false rape accusations. Also false DV accusations. There should certainly be a registry of false accusers. Also the number of false accusers is a lot higher than most people think. Statistics only count the number of proven false accusations (which is very very hard to prove) so most accusations end up being inconclusive. This comment sums up for me what is wrong with PPD. The highest rated comment in this thread contains no facts. Just wild speculation and personal op…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:25 PM
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If you want links you can just google them. Then I might as well start an OP here in PPD and make all the comments myself. Here we share logic and opinions. Opinions are useless when asking something specific and not common public knowledge. It's speculation by people who don't know what they're talking about. Logic does not enter a discussion until the facts are known.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:23 PM
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So more rapes have been reported to police however the number of cases referred to the Crown Prosecution Service (the courts) have stayed the same, which suggests the increase is in cases with insufficient evidence. Yes, more victims are being encouraged to report. But what happens is that the police won't go ahead with a case that has insufficient evidence because the chance of a conviction is so low. And the problem is that with most rape, there is 'insufficient evidence'. Even in cases with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:20 PM
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And a class A0 idiot for believing an allegation of murder by the same token? Er, it's a bit hard to "allege" murder. A victim is either dead or not. The poster said they'd never known a girl to be legitimately raped, which had made him skeptical to rape claims. My reasoning is that just because your own limited experience points to A doesn't mean that A is the truth. In other words, just because you've never known someone who was legitimately raped doesn't mean that rape doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:13 PM
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"Slut shame/fear of what will happen next does affect teenage girls and can lead to false rape claims - in a small percentage of cases. I'm glad you looked into it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:08 PM
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Its much more of how feminism refuses to change how it talks about and that frames the discussion on sexual assault which in turn influencing how its discussed in public. This in turn makes it even harder for male victims to come forward. ? Feminism has been trying to change the definitions, including definitions that exclude male victims. Before feminism, except for rape by strangers in which a lot of physical damage occurred (including death), rape was framed as the victim somehow inviting it …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 10:02 PM
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It's my OP. I'm just trying to get some facts for a change and not endless speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 01:36 PM
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you got that license the day your chromosomes paired up as XX Must still be in the mail. They can neither file false abuse claims nor try to mess with me romantically. Ladies of PPD, do not, repeat DO NOT mess with despisedlove romantically, you hear? Leave the poor man alone. Stop sending him wily kisses and nudies through private messages and such. He's had enough. Must he live behind barricades his whole life??? Stop trying to kick it in with your harlotty high heels. Have some mercy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 09:31 AM
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You did read what I said right? I'm agreeing with you dummie. Its not. Only thing by and large that will is removing feminism. Yes, yes, because society used to do sooooooooooo much for male victims of rape and kids suffering rape/molestation from priests etc before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 09:26 AM
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Women are unfortunately given the license to destroy men's lives. I somehow missed getting such a licence. How do I obtain one? This is one of the reasons my office and home have cameras, and I avoid relationships with women. I am nothing more than a blackmaileable meal ticket to them. Women are spending their lives, right now as to speak, to breaking through all your defences and attempting to blackmail you. There is a photo being circulated of you on the netz that has the 'meal ticket' marker.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 06:10 AM
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Please provide links.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 06:04 AM
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BPD is Borderline personality disorder. I have read plenty of articles associating them with false accusations among other aberrant behaviors (an I also experienced it in real life). I'll look up some stats because I'm just going on memory atm. Memory and anecdotes have no place in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 06:02 AM
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Of course. We take precautions against a lot of things that are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 05:58 AM
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False rape accusations are common enough to require precautionary techniques to prove one's innocence after the fact. That's not the same as saying "false rape accusations are pretty common".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:40 AM
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Other stats are in line with this one. That's a weasel statement that means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:39 AM
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there is nearly universal agreement that it's better for guilty persons to go free than to ever wrongly punish an innocent person If everyday men were raped at the same rates that everyday women are, men would not agree with this. Because allowing 100 rapists go free means punishing potentially hundreds of new victims. At the same time, I don't agree it's ok to punish an innocent person and send them to jail. I just wish our legal system was better at proving rape. We need something else - maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:21 AM
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I think this women wouldn't see a problem. That's terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 03:16 AM
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While I agree with "believe women" isn't something to aim for, it for the most part isn't pushed to be a legal standard. No, it's not a legal standard. At the same time a lot of rape victims never come forward either, especially male ones. And how do you deal with rape when the victims don't come forward because they get attacked for it? "Believe women" isn't going to help male rape victims. It certainly isn't going to help men who are falsely accused. And it sets up unrealistic view of women be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:58 AM
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only 5.7% of reported rape cases ending in a conviction 5.9% are coded as false allegations. That's across about 150 allegations at one university, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:51 AM
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As I understand it, one of the problems is that the police and defence are not allowed to use a history of previous false accusations. So the same woman can come in again and again with dubious accusation, and every time be met with the same trust. Seriously? That's wrong. That doesn't mean a woman who has falsely accused someone of rape before can't be raped. In fact, they are more likely to move in circles in which it can happen more often. But it could factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:48 AM
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It's almost like we should leave the judgement to... wait for it... JUDGES. But police can decide whether it's worth building a case or not. They are also critical to whether the accuser decides to go ahead or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:45 AM
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I don't know who the false rape accusers are because I don't think profiling is right. ??? What I do know is that false rape accusations are pretty common You don't know that because it isn't correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:44 AM
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Not talking to police is good advice for any accusation ime Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:43 AM
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Seems like people shouldn't have intimate relations (or any) with people who exude unstable red flags. Not a good idea. I'm not offering up my genitals to someone who sends me 40K texts. Ha! I think she sent the texts after he wanted nothing more to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:42 AM
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So we can't talk about the amount of false rape accusations. Because it's a rabbit hole. Talk about it in your own thread, if you want. Ok, so what do you want us to ttalk about? What is your point? The title and content are clear. What kind of background do the women have who press false rape charges? Anything said must have links and citations. Otherwise, it's useless speculation. I gave such links and quotes in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 02:40 AM
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Yes but title ix campus rape is the main issue, not false criminal charges I care little for what rp discusses. It's mostly childish sap. I wish to talk about false rape accusations overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:24 PM
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Of all accusations the number of cases proven true is about the same as the number that is proven false. Citation!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:12 PM
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They discuss it all. Ad nauseam.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:08 PM
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Can we at least make an effort to distinguish between actual false claims and claims that where the guy was just found innocent? That doesn't seem to exist in rp land.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:06 PM
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Do you have anything to back up the claim that females with bipolar disorder are disproportionately the ones falsely accusing males of sexual assault. RP are thin on facts in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:02 PM
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In a lot of these cases though, the "facts" are nothing more than how the girl feels about the encounter, and how she feels about the guy, and often times it doesn't get reported until days or even weeks after it happened. It's very difficult to take feelings as facts and evidence and take someone to court over it. Yes, that does happen. But is it common? It doesn't seem so. And rape can often be reported weeks or months or years later because the victim has been too numb emotionally to report i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:00 PM
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Does it surprise you that men have feelings? I admit to being surprised they didn't take me up on my offer, and afterward, I felt pretty shitty about offering what I did. Picture a guy who has no trouble finding girls for sex, who wants a relationship with a certain girl, but she doesn't want him - and then she offers just sex while she's looking for someone better? I didn't come out and say it like that of course, and I didn't see the situation like that at the time, but I did when I gained a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:50 PM
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Well researched. I bet few rp'ers bothered to read those links.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:39 PM
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Sorry, dead wrong. I have offered 'friends with benefits' sex three times in my life. I've been turned down twice - if a relationship wasn't on offer, they didn't want anything as they considered it would be too painful. And the third time it turned into a relationship and he later told me that was what he wanted all along. The net effect is that I haven't had the experience of casual sex, but not because I didn't try. Of course, sometimes men do offer relationships to get sex. But you stated it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:35 PM
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I just think that women expecting to be believed 100% of the time without question, and getting upset when the man's side of the story is considered is a bad thing. I agree. I've never thought that "believe women" is a good thing to aim for. It has no place in the legal system. Instead, it should be "listen to people who report crimes" (And then, without bias, get the facts and make determinations)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:29 PM
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You'd just made some whacko claim about female supremacism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:26 PM
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only 5.7% of reported rape cases ending in a conviction That means that 94,3% are ether withdrawn, unsubstantiated or proven false. Keep that out of this thread, thanks. Also, withdrawn means withdrawn. It's not a euphemism for 'false'. I know a teenage boy who withdrew his accusation against a grown man, as did the other boys who were also accusing him. They're all afraid of being thought of as 'gay'. They were 10 and 11 years old at the time they were preyed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:23 PM
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Surprise, surprise, criminal scum does criminal stuff. Yes, criminals gonna criminal. If many Red Pillers come from this special place, why is this the one crime that magically isn't common in hell? ??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:14 PM
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Stick to facts and links. Stop getting all emotional. Doesn't help an adult discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:04 PM
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There are a lot of 'false accusers' that are a mix between these two. I'm going by the stats in my links. Please provide links rather than just saying "a lot". The thing is, people tend to view their claims with a whiff of suspicion because they are generally the type of people that already have a reputation for embellishment and lying in other areas of their lives. They throw their 'rape' story out to see if it gains any traction, and a lot of the times, it doesn't, and becomes a non-issue. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:03 PM
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Just how do you think those committed relationships happen? Love, respect and sex. I don't believe most guys get into committed LTRs for the sex alone. Maybe you would consider ceasing to use the phrase “pump and dump.” Pursuing just for sex alone does invoke this - whether it's men or women doing the pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:58 PM
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I don't think sex outside of marriage is negative. I'm just answering the post above that claims that men not pursuing women for sex will lead to no babies being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:56 PM
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I've never known a girl who was actually legitimately raped, not they would make it public knowledge or anything, but the 2 cases I've seen have made me skeptical to rape claims, especially between 2 people who have a pre-existing relationship. I've never known anyone who murdered someone. I'd be a class A idiot to believe murder doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:52 PM
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Why, not convenient for female supremacism? Oh, fuck a duck. I'm just sick of rp delusions, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:51 PM
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People who will actually rape them? Women who falsely accuse someone of rape are at risk of being raped if they are named? I can't see that happening. I see falsely accusing someone as a criminal act, so they should be named.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:50 PM
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If men can’t act like men and pursue sex with women then how are future generations ever to exist? You know, call me old-fashioned, but I tend to think it's best if children happen within a committed relationship, rather than a pump-and-dump scenario. When men pursue relationships, children happen. So there are absolutely no worries about future generations being born. When men pursue just sex, children usually don't happen - and if children happen, single mothers are created. Not so good for fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:46 PM
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If these false accusations are so rampant, why hasn't Weinstein quashed the rumors? Surely he's powerful and rich enough to provide alibis and corroborating witnesses for himself. Yep. He can't quash them because they're true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:43 PM
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People who have their lives ruined by false accusations are indeed victims. Yes, indeed they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:40 PM
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If you name them, wouldn't that make them easy prey? Easy prey for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:40 PM
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Because he kills her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:39 PM
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BPD women are big on using false rape accusations. Also false DV accusations. Links are always helpful. Also the number of false accusers is a lot higher than most people think. Statistics only count the number of proven false accusations (which is very very hard to prove) so most accusations end up being inconclusive. I'd prefer this discussion not go down that rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:38 PM
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We don't know, because they're statistically insignificant. So much so that we don't need to rehash this bullshit every other thread. I never see the backgrounds of the kind of women who falsely accuse people of rape being mentioned. I just see some ridiculously inflated number of false accusers being stated by rp - that's it. As if everyday women run about making false accusations for fun and giggles. I thought it might be time to take a look at just who is lodging false rape charges - what kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:35 PM
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Yea, made a mistake on the number. Agree that false accusers should be named.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 02:32 PM
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Well, if three of my friends are with aspergers men, and all three men come from caring families, I can't see how it's true that no one cares about them. If trp helps 2% succeed, but makes 80% of them develop an intense hatred towards women, I can't see how it's helping overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 11:08 PM
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Yes, your wife definitely sounds like someone who can't deal with stress. My ex-husband was like that (except he'd explode in anger/violence towards me). Things like money stress, work stress, stress caused to him by his own family. Sounds like, in your wife's case, with counselling, she might be able find ways to work through it. I try to deal with stress by keeping the big picture in mind, and also letting my partner know when I need some alone time due to stress, so that he knows it's nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 11:05 PM
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Thanks for letting me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 10:57 PM
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Eh, I married super young as a virgin. Yes, I tried hard because we were married and he was the first man I (thought I) loved. But there was no 'unbreakable bond' due to the marriage certificate. It was easy to walk away from him (apart from the fact that he was violent and I was pretty damned scared of him). I don't plan to marry now. My partner and I are solid. There hasn't been a single time in 7 years in which I've thought I wanted to walk away (I can't answer for him). I wouldn't cheat or l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:34 AM
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Need a bit more context. Do you know this couple well? Are you sure she's a princess type just from what she looks like? If she left a good, loving man that she loved (the doctor) just for the good looks of another man (the 'greek god') then she'll probably wind up pretty unhappy in the long run. And not just because of the money, but because she's someone who is unstable and spends her life jumping to each next shiny new thing. But if she had a good reason for leaving the doctor husband, maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:25 AM
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Another study looked at brain activity where the participants were shown some emotionally provoking image, and then asked to stop feeling sad, angry, etc... Men showed much greater efficiency in terminating their emotional responses. Other tests say the opposite: https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/guys-more-emotional-girls/1077730 They don't let on what they're feeling, but their physical reaction shows something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:38 AM
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Women lack agency. How? I see women divorcing men, starting up businesses, becoming entrepreneurs, trying to get a better deal for women in positions of power/government etc If they lacked agency, how would they do any of that? Society coddles women. How? It coddles children. Not women. Women are just as (if not more) shallow as men. Yes. Just as shallow (not more). Women find dominance and status sexually attractive. Not exactly 'dominance', just not feminine behaviours. Mate value is more impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:28 AM
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But I do think in high stress situations or when thoughts and feelings collide women on average skew more towards feelings. I agree with all your post, except for this. Having young kids, I see mothers in high stress situations all the time. (Kids running onto a busy road, falling from play equipment, kids approached by an aggressive dog in the park etc). What I see is immediate, effective plans of action, whether the kid is hers or not. We've seen this over and over in school shootings, in whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:09 AM
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... people still write poetry... Yeah but poetry doesn't carry the prestige it once did. Once, you'd know the names of the most famous poets. Now, only people who are into poetry do. Novels, on the other hand, are still highly popular. People can name famous authors without any difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:40 AM
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Be as physically attractive as possible. Men also hate nagging and like nurturing temperaments. No one likes hostile women. The intangibles would be social skills, intellect, good personality. Perfect advice for men. I like all of that in men and I'm sure most women do, too. Being that this is a dating advice for women thread, I'd advise women to look for those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:03 PM
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Poems are different. They go too far back. Stereotypes are stereotypes because they've been held for a looong time. So the past is very relevant. How many times in PPD have you heard the term '1950s housewife'? I see it all the time. In terms of writing, even today, men get more literary awards than women. https://qz.com/838175/the-national-book-award-and-other-top-literary-prizes-seriously-under-represent-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:59 PM
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gazongas I'm stealing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:41 PM
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FSM Frisky sado-masochism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:39 PM
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If I were a guy, I'd take the feminine woman. She'd drive me nuts, but I can't abide "blunt and aggressive' people, so your other example would be out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:37 PM
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Subjects like writing take intelligence but are seen as more feminine. Am not so sure writing is seen as feminine. Academic writing has traditionally been seen as masculine, as has 'intelligent' fiction writing. Until recent times, literary awards went to men, not women. Women were seen as fine to write things like mindless romance, but rarely capable of writing great literature. I agree with the rest of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:31 PM
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I know what you mean about crying being effective to stop arguments. I'm not a guy but I rarely cry and never during a disagreement. If my partner were to see me cry, his world would stop. Because I've cried maybe twice in a 7 year relationship. It must be awful for your girlfriend to use the 'crying victim' thing. I mean, maybe it's effective to stop the argument, but do you think you've started losing a bit of respect for her because of it? And in the end, her tears don't mean much? Or, maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:24 PM
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Why do you think male hormones makes them cry less? why did they evolve to that? ;) because it was more efficient to not cry. and women cry because it prevents conflicts and call for empathy. Ah, I thought you meant that men consciously decide that crying isn't effective. Yes, I would I agree that, in part, crying isn't as selected for in men as it is in women - speaking in an evolutionary sense. I don't entirely agree that it's effective for women to cry. In some circumstances it certainly is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:45 AM
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Scientifically speaking. More genes are being expressed, including a percentage of genes previously thought to be switched off. And the genes can switch on and off during a lifetime. Loads of variability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 02:13 AM
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The first part is true, except that men largely stop crying due to social pressure and hormones. And women don't cry to signal they want to be led. Most of the crying women do is when they are alone and no one can see them. They can't possibly be doing it in order to be led. You don't seem to understand this about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 12:05 AM
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No, women are more different to each other than what men are to each other. Women are just that varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:52 PM
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Well put. And, omg, all the things I've missed out by not having casual sex. I'd never cheat on my partner but if I were to go back to age 18, I'd do things so differently. 'Saving myself' for marriage was the worst mistake ever. What I didn't know then was that the kind of men who are impressed by virginity/very low n count are duds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:37 PM
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Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:31 PM
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And yet... you red dudes are huddling in trp all day because you can't get yer dicks wet and spilling over into PPD and the internet with yer blather. While children starve in Africa and people are mugged in the street in broad daylight. Please explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:13 PM
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all masculine men are sexist. Depends how you define masculinity. I see weak-minded, unintelligent men being sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:49 PM
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Yay horror films what is your fav? Hey, no faves. I like the old gothic type horror, such as The Omen and The Exorcist. And the new 'classics' such as The Conjuring and Woman in Black. And I like some of the new psych horror, such as The Invitation (2016). The movie, It Follows was a pretty cool idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:31 PM
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Feeling that you have to live up to societies expectations in order to even be a man is not entitlement. It's both. Some men feel entitled to have these things, because they see other men having them, and history tells them that men had the upper hand over women. Men who've thought about it at length (and there's lots of them here in PPD) can see history for what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:27 PM
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YOU: "Ohhh, but honey I was just hanging about on PPD shooting my mouth off and not bothering to read any history."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:22 PM
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Nuthin' that hasn't been discussed into the ground at PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:20 PM
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In most cases they are though. Am not getting in that one. That way lies madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:43 PM
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I didn't say it was "inexcusable". And certainly didn't say it was inexcusable in people who have challenges in understanding the world. What I said was that rp gathers aspies in. Aspies are also alienated by non-aspie men. Do aspies gather to pour hate on chads, or do women cop the brunt of it? You see, in general, women cop the brunt of hate from men, just because men aren't getting what they want from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:42 PM
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No if a man cheats it is just because he wants some variety, it won't hurt the relationship nor his ability to pair bond, if a woman cheats she is evil, incapapble of sustaining a relationship of any kind, and likely mentally ill. True words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:38 PM
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Strange how women knew they were trapped, then, and sought to free themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 07:36 PM
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Everyone is sexist at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:22 AM
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Big range of sexism. But I can't abide any of it. Leaves me cold. He believes things like this: if a man fucks up in business, it's because he's human. if a woman fucks up in business, it's because she's a woman. If a man cheats, it's because he's a man and therefore led by his dick (it's biological). If a woman cheats, it's because women these days are trash. if a man gets a higher position in a company, he won it fair and square by merit. If a woman gets a higher position, it's because she's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:15 AM
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My friends are female. Their husbands/partners are male and have aspergers. Sorry I wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:05 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:04 AM
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She propositioned him for sex. And gave him every reason to think she liked him. And then a few days later sent a blunt text saying she wasn't interested and stop texting her. No wonder he was hurt and trying to understand what the hell happened. The "whore" comment in his case is just him blowing off some steam and very understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:45 AM
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Ultimately, she tried to negotiate her own lack of desire for a man who was good on paper, but who she found deeply unattractive. Yes. She tried to negotiate her lack of desire. But he wasn't even 'good on paper'. He was much older, fat, hairy and weird. She was just lonely and allowed herself to grow attached. She made a sexual move on him and ended up not liking what came next. All his rough throwing her around during sex (red pill style) couldn't save that sad sexual encounter. He didn't do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:29 AM
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I'm not getting into that one. Suffice to say, I have three friends who are with men who have aspergers and none of them are sexist. But these days, rp seems to be casting a drag net for as many young aspie men as they can find online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:04 AM
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I'd take a high functioning aspergers man over a sexist any day of the week. Staying with a sexist man would kill me inside, day by day. I'd be embarrassed to go out with him, embarrassed to have him around my friends, annoyed by his blathering about women, and bored by his sexism in the bedroom. If the aspergers man shared some of my interests - star wars, horror films, my kind of music etc - then we might find common ground. But, a hella lot of aspergers men on PPD seem to be red pill. In othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:48 AM
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Electing people based on skin tone or gender only reinforces the bias you say you're against. I'll just say this. You're wrong. Because it's easy as hell to say that "the best person for the job" is 100% white men. And, you can't be what you can't see. If women and black people etc don't see themselves in positions of power, they're far, far less likely to strive for such positions. And, companies with women in the boardrooms have been proven to do better than those with just all men. And, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:31 AM
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The stable was never a shelter. It was always safer and able to live better out on the plains. It'll never go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:23 AM
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Different girls don't require different types of game. They like what they like when they first see a guy. She sounds like she was into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:22 AM
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Rape isn't an exclusively male thing. It also isn't and exclusively common man thing. If you read what I wrote again, you'll see that I didn't say the above things. I said that "feminists are against rape and harassment, and that isn't going to destroy the common man". Of course rape and harassment isn't exclusively male and of course those things aren't exclusive being perpetrated by common men. You want women to lead society. No. Feminists want 50/50 men and women in seats of power etc. They v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:57 PM
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low dominance women are petrified of masculinity Sheesh. No. I've seen such women relieved to be with a guy who she imagines can 'protect' her, seeing as she is a bit spineless herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:43 PM
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They claim to be against elite on paper but by their actions they're not only being funded by elite but are also attacking common. You mean because they're against things like rape and sexual harassment? That's hardly going to destroy the common man. Feminism is also for lifting people out of poverty. And poverty is behind a lot of crime and people falling through the cracks. That's also not destroying the common man but trying to fix the problems and make society more equitable for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:39 PM
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Which is your country, so that we can check this out for ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:29 PM
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The sad thing is feminism thinks it's winning when it strives to be above common normal men when the true evil lies within the elite. If you happen to read feminist theory, you'll know that this is a basic tenet. Feminism holds that patriarchy benefits the elite, and subjugates lesser men and women as a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:24 PM
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this is how the feminist/sexual revolution/emancipation of women era ends. The horse has bolted. I'd like anyone to explain how it's going to be put back in the stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:18 PM
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Nothing. This post was created conclusions-first. This was not written in good faith. The answers OP wants are all in the body of his post, which has little to do with the article. This is bad thread-making. My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:14 PM
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Not being an asshole doesn't mean "weak". And lots of girls wouldn't bang a drug dealer. Those who would are likely to be interested in the drugs - get it? You learning trp's stuff still wouldn't get you anywhere with such women - unless you became a drug dealer. And by the way, trp's methods of "courting" are pretty useless if the woman isn't instantly attracted to you. Women (just like men) know within a split second if they're attracted to someone or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:11 PM
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Well, if I ever should see my partner's dick break off and join a game of quidditch, I'll know it indeed possesses magical powers. For now, I'm more than happy with its performance ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:08 AM
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What can feeble females do but submit under the force of all that firepower?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:06 AM
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Why not try to cram this all into your narrative of poor innocent women being oppressed by the entitled sexist patriarchal men? You are making up this narrative, not me. I was debating and you seemed to lose your way and bust out this emotional stuff. shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:06 AM
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Bitches sometimes make me want to hate fuck them into their place. I'm afraid penises just don't have any kind of magikal powers that can "put women in their place'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:03 AM
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between two equally hot men, women would rather fuck the more asshole-ish, because women are fundamentally attracted to dominance Hell no!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:57 AM
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That's talking about how much harm a bully could inflict over a long period of time. And I agree it can be extreme. And people do commit suicide over it. But a victim can potentially get away from a bully and move to another school or place, but they can't get away from a rape or murder that happens to them. And the bullying/belittling is normally not so serious that a person would commit suicide because of it/carry the scars for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:45 AM
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Guns are easier to track, yes, but most men who kill with guns don't think hard about the consequences, so I'm not sure how that comes into it. Most mass shooters seem to expect to die or be caught at the end of the killing spree. Stabbing is pretty guaranteed if the other person is asleep or drunk - or even if you simply cut the jugular. It's unpredictable and messy, yes, but if the other person doesn't expect it, you'd have a very good shot at killing them. Women are biologically equipped to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:38 AM
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Bullying and belittling are as bad as murder or rape? Can I ask if you'd rather be belittled or raped? Or bullied as opposed to being murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:05 AM
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Women don't have the raw physicality needed to kill human beings for sport Yes, they do. They can wield a gun as easily as a man. And they can easily stab someone who isn't expecting it. Instead of killing people outright they abuse and neglect their kids and those kids go on to become felons and serial killers. Abuse and neglect of kids happens with both men and women, and if men were looking after kids to the same degree as women, the rates of men abusing kids would shoot up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:01 AM
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The term "cognitive dissonance" is used on PPD way too much (mostly by the reds). So you're already fitting right in. I love things that change and challenge my beliefs. But here in PPD, we're a heap of anonymous users. I'm not about to change my beliefs based on something an anonymous user says. There's a lot of anger and desperation behind the theories and stories, and although I empathise, I'm not so weak-minded as to get caught up in that. For me, it's not unwillingness to change beliefs so …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 11:49 PM
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/u/IckyStickyPoo responses are primarily opinionated points I gave hard stats. Now, while I do think he/she has a point with a few of his/her counterpoints, by and large he/she isn't "refuting" facts with opinions. I'm glad you realise that I wasn't refuting facts with opinions. I was indeed using facts. Also, remember that facts can be cherrypicked and manipulated. All of his facts were one-sided and divorced from the larger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:21 AM
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Yes they absolutely do sacrifice in different ways. As I said, both men and women suffer. The way trp have it, only men suffer - while women seemingly have some giddy, protected life in which nothing bad ever happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:20 AM
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Love Respect Sex For both. In that order.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:18 AM
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The point of the whole thing was what lucky breaks women are getting. It was not about men. I asked specifically what lucky breaks he thought women were getting. The stuff about men was whataboutism. I hope you're clear now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:17 AM
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Good for you. At least you're aware of when you go off on a tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:53 PM
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Thanks for your list. Women naturally engender more sympathy and compassion from society writ-large and individuals. These sympathies are coded into our language as infantilization (lack of parallel usage, different connotations for words, etc.), our idioms, our customs ("women and children first"), and social structures (men are drafted into the military, are expected to occupy the most dangerous jobs, etc.). I don't see any of this as being "designed". 'Women and children first' is really a th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 11:51 PM
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People lie! Quoted for truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:16 PM
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Men who are concerned about women who might get a thrill cheating with another man should probably try to find women who are not thrill seekers. I'm a thrill seeker. But I'll never cheat. I've known some dead-boring men and women who've cheated. They have no imagination to make their lives more exciting and get cheap thrills out of "seeing someone on the side".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:16 PM
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We're expected to tread water or drown--there are no social mechanisms or conventions designed to prop us up. I'm curious. Can you outline what these social mechanisms and conventions are that are designed to prop up women? (Must not include things that are designed for the welfare of children).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:11 PM
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The aim of that political movement is seemingly to lay the blame for every problem a woman or women have on men. Feminism isn't meant to be about laying blame. It's about 'taking the red pill' (if you like), stepping out of the matrix, and seeing that the power structure of patriarchy is damaging to both men and women. And then it's about fixing it so that it's more equitable for everyone. Therefore, feminism seems less about holding women to a higher degree of personal responsibility for the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:06 PM
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We were talking about countries where it's the done thing for men to have side chicks/extra wives. They're not all 'rich and powerful'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 07:56 PM
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OK let's say you can't have sex anymore, many years into an LTR but he still wants it, are your views still the same? If the situation was reversed, it's about the same as if he is permanently bankrupt. Well, I had that situation in my last relationship - except the person not wanting sex was my partner. For years, I barely had sex due to his sex drive being so low. Would he have been happy for me to go and fuck younger/hotter men on the side? I very, very much doubt it. When you go into a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 07:53 PM
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Go and ask poly people if love and monogamy is the same thing. I already covered that when I said "unless it's an arrangement decided at the outset". If they both know they're going to have side dick and side chick, or equal multi partners, then it's fair and equitable. But in the situation where women have no choice but to accept their men having side chicks, it's not fair or equitable. The arrangement is forced upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:06 AM
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Okay, fair enough. But what's wrong with wanting a lot of sex with different people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 08:03 AM
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Would you say the same for men? If men desire a lot of sex with different women, are they depressed, lonely and insecure? In need of constant validation? Were they raised wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 04:42 AM
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Whatever, dude. I know what subjugation of women looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 03:47 AM
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Those kind of cultural values are a result of systemic oppression of women. It is not love. It's not love, honour or respect - period. Call it something else entirely, because that's what it is. Call it fondness of a subjugated spouse, if you like. I don't need to be a part of a culture to know what's wrong and what's right. For example, the Saudis were forcing small boys to race to death on top of camels in recent decades. Yes, it's a moral opinion that this is wrong. There are no "facts" - it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 03:11 AM
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What about if he solicited prostitutes or otherwise gave you love and affection but fucked younger/hotter women on the side? Divorce rape imminent for all of those things. He can stick his worthless "love and affection" where the sun don't shine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:43 AM
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Hypergamy has nothing to do with new and varied men. It has to do with upgrading and getting a better man. That is true. But you misunderstand - I'm saying hypergamy is a matter of circumstance, not something that's hardwired. And I'm saying both men and women desire new and varied partners. She might not want to upgrade at all when she cheats. She might well just want variety and something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:42 AM
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You misunderstood me (or I wasn't clear enough). I was reacting to the notion of never dating again because you wouldn't find someone as good as your partner (if he died or left you). And I was saying, if he died, then he'd die being the person that I thought he was. But if he left me, he'd leave me not being the person I thought he was - because my partner and I are really happy and in love. So, if he suddenly left me, there would have been things about himself he wasn't telling me. And I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:40 AM
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Rich high status men cheat and keep side chicks, they still honor, love and respect their wife. No way of loving, honouring or respecting your wife if you have side chicks. None at all. Unless it was an arrangement agreed upon at the outset, and most probably with her having side dick at her disposal. Would you believe a wife can love, honour and respect her husband if she has side dick he doesn't know about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:19 AM
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Women, and it's not a secret, are biologically wired to want to mate with the most attractive men. Beyond that, some women desire a lot of sex with different men because they love casual sex, some women desire one high-value man, some women desire sex with lots of men for the attention, some women want lots of casual sex but find it too risky, and some women prefer to be on their own. Women are not biologically wired for hypergamy. Both men and women will be inclined towards hypergamy if the sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:33 PM
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It's women controlling their hypergamy desire for new & varied men to stay committed to one man for life. Fixed that bit. And I agree that marriage for both men and women means controlling desire for other partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:22 PM
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"Oxygen thief" Oh, I agree. Someone who marries someone while fully intending to cheat on them is an oxygen thief.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:20 PM
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I think that /u/vandaalen would agree, since he's experienced high-quality soft harems... Video evidence of these women saying as such? Otherwise, we don't believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:44 PM
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Though in reality, I'll admit, the wifey in this scenario may just end up being bottom bitch. Which for a woman isn't the worst place to be as long as your getting the "heirs" benefits. I'd divorce rape the crap out of him if he relegated me to even second best. Love & respect or GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 08:36 PM
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I think the terps are just hard up trying to imagine what the actual benefits are of being female lolz. The only thing they can come up with is banging old rich dudes for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:32 PM
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Is he going to enjoy all that sex with the 50+ women i mean, without a dick? Because in his brain, he'll still be male, but dickless. I wouldn't want a 100 billion if i had to swap to having a penis. My partner would leave me, so i'd have to replace him with some male hotties on my island. But then the only way i can have sex with the hotties is with a penis. Or with them giving me buttsex. This arrangement just isn't going to work. I'd feel like King Midas in his castle of gold. All of the good…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:27 PM
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Having sex with an ugly old man is every bit as gross as a straight woman, and probably more. Men are already half used to saggy balls, but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:20 PM
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Amazed at how many guys here are ecstatic about the chance to hop on an 'ugly old guy's' dick for a few years (and then divorce him). You do realise that you can prostitute yourself to rich old gay men right now, don't you? (Gay men who desire sex workers, that is.) In some places, it's even legal to marry them. Go for it! No point in holding back on your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:46 AM
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With me comfortably near the top. 100 billion dollars, a private island with endless toys, guns, and 50+ women who owe their lives to me. With you still a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:38 AM
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But just remember, you actually have to put up with having his dick near you and inside you. The horror. Not worth it, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:25 AM
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There you have it then, the things males did for females: incredible ideas, and protection from foreign rapists (or forceful assimilation of foreign pussies, from the other tribe's point of view). Males weren't the only ones to have great ideas. That was just a "what if". And if males didn't attack then women wouldn't have to worry - which means males were a big fat problem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:08 AM
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We don't need males centering their lives around 'doing things for females'. Human females are not queen bees. And males are not interchangeable. What if you killed the one male that was going to have the incredible idea that was going to mean the difference between starvation and survival for his tribe? And if you killed off most of the men, who would protect the tribe against attack from another tribe that didn't kill off its males?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:51 AM
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Feminism today is a lobbying group for women. it can go too much that way. But that's mostly due to trying to fix the inequalities. Some feminists go too far, but the basic principles are sound. Just like some antiracists can go too far but the basic principles are sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:46 AM
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Men can get free condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:43 AM
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Feminism is very broad, but if you truly believe in equality of the sexes, then you're far likelier to be intelligent than someone who believes otherwise. You don't have to believe in every part of feminism for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:10 AM
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Women have no superior protections nor are feminists trying to get them any.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:08 AM
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That's the main principle and bedrock of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:07 AM
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What? That is one of the nuttiest things I've ever heard. Prehistoric cave women would have been doing things all day long. survival is hard. Men were not 'doing things for them'. everyone had to do things just to live. Your list is great. but research says that the communication was short and sharp - and it had to be. you can't make a lot of noise when tracking animals. women, on the other hand, needed a lot of communication due to the enormous number of different things they needed to know and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:05 AM
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Does any man who dates a woman stand up and say plainly that all he wants is sex??? NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:01 AM
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More intelligent than whom? The population at large. The belief that men are women are equal as people generally comes from people who are among the most intelligent. Not always (you did see me mention 'individuals' right?)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:15 PM
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An if women should be better empowered to be agents of their own life, it's to make them more powerful and independent than men? No? That would be silly. Both men and women can be independent and have power as needed. You'd kind of doubt it with your description. They just went to long hiking trips with their buddies and came back with some meager portion of meat... I hardly said that. Conditions could have been very harsh. I was just pointing out the 'cave woman; side of things, which would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:13 PM
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There are two broad many categories of male feminists, who on the whole are more intelligent people. They are also very varied individuals with varied beliefs and actions, who cannot be typecast. There, fixed that for you. Like, what do you make of the male politician who was outspokenly against same-sex marriage and homosexuality and whose wife leads an anti-abortion movement - and he was caught having sex with a man in his office? So yeah, what do you make of him? Are all politicians secretly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:38 PM
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More active vs. more passive; I don't know how much more plainly I can put it. How were men more active than women? Women were certainly active while gathering, hunting smaller animals and watching children all day long. I can put forth much more plausible reasons for hunters to develop language than gatherers. Go right ahead!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:26 PM
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Women staying safe in the cavern is still the case today. Caves could be damp, dark, stinky and also fill up with smoke - people would not choose to stay in them all day unless it was snowing or thunderstorms outside etc. And being that cavewomen provided up to 80% of the food, she wasn't doing that stuck in a cave all day. Men work more, in more risky jobs, they earn more, and women stay more at home. Men work more in paid jobs, but they don't work more. Yes, men do more risky jobs. Even femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:14 PM
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A pregnant woman can't do anything by herself so she gets whatever other people can provide her. That was just a joke. Anyway, a pregnant woman can do most of the things she did before she was pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:55 PM
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Don't think so. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:37 PM
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I have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:25 PM
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Who do you follow? The tall guy. Why? Because everyone can see him. That makes sense. Why are men "agents" and women "objects?" Because men go out to hunt and women stay close to the village to gather. That makes zero sense. In fact, women were responsible for 80% of the caloric intake of our hunter-gatherer ancestors; that last 20% was important, though. It was meat, and increased protein is believed to be responsible for our development of larger brains. Yes but that 80% included small animals…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:19 PM
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It seems to be what women want, though. I've met very few women that show any initiative in anything or who are confident enough to make a decision. It's obvious you haven't met many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:11 PM
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An archetypal woman would stay safely in the cavern by the fire while the man gets out to fetch food and wood. That was never the case though. Simply speaking, females are naturally more "objects", and men naturally more "agents". In no way can I agree with this. But expecting a man to spontaneously decide if the availability of strawberries justifies buying them is a dream, and it's disappointing to see that men are expected to provide this dream. A pregnant woman gets whatever food a pregnant …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:10 PM
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Women who are not dating us, strangers on the internet, why can't you admit your nature? What's the incentive to keep up the lie to strangers? There is no coverup. That's a ridiculous notion of rp. Women are clear about what they like. Young men aren't "figuring out the world", but just acting on biological sexual drives. All consistent with RP. Young men are indeed figuring out the world and themselves and what they want. If it was all just "biological urges" then no man would bother to follow …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:02 PM
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And I don't see how you can possibly claim that what men want in the situation doesn't matter. If a woman needs to grow up before she marries, then she needs to grow up. I'm saying that what men want doesn't matter because if she marries just because men want to marry a 20-year-old woman, it's not going to help anyone. Divorce within a couple of years is likely. Even if a woman goes through a period of exploration before deciding what she wants, getting anything from men (sex, marriage, children…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:58 PM
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Men don't have wilder years when they are younger. That statement is nuts. Of course they do. Men often have party years where they drink too much, take drugs and risks and have sex with different women. And then many come to a point where they want to settle and have children and a wife. They would love to have anal threesomes or whatever they are into regularly even when older. Nice for you to tell me what all men want to do. Except that I have eyes and can see even movie star men wanting to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:51 PM
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It doesn't matter what she considers to be her peak. It certainly does matter. The best she can do only depends on what others consider to be her peak. The best she can do generally when she marries is when she considers she is ready - right then and not before. She cannot do her best in terms of a man if she's not ready. Your analogy means nothing at all. Women are not products but autonomous beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:47 PM
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The stated age was '20'. If she lasts in a relationship from her early 20s to her late 20s, and then marries him, that relationship has a lot more solid foundations, because she's had a chance to grow up. But, most times, a relationship that starts when she is 20 will dissolve. The "best" a person can get is what he/she goes for at his/her peak ability to get things. Just because a man might consider a 20 year old woman to be at her peak doesn't mean she considers herself to be at her peak. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:46 PM
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The bottom line is that we don't want to settle down with a woman who already gave her younger and wilder years to the pizza boy. And yet many men think it's ok for themselves to give their younger and wilder years to wild women. Truly top-tier men ought to get (i.e. settle for nothing less than) fulfilling relationships plus the sexual fulfillment that goes along with landing a gorgeous 20-year-old who could fuck any guy she wants. And she's likely to divorce him later on because she was too yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:18 PM
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Women won't answer honestly bc regret and shame. What they don't realize is failure to give men reasonable explanations for this behavior leads men to formulate their own theories like RP or think they need to act like jerks/players. Do men ever give women explanations for leading them to think they want a relationship when they just want to 'pump and dump' them or for being attracted to busty fake-boob bimbos when they're young but wanting a 'good woman' to marry when they're older?? Or do men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:08 PM
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The question "is the blue pill just denial and delusions" is a circlejerk. If that title was posted about RP, it would be zapped by mods within minutes. It's unanswerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:56 PM
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Like the fog of war. Hidden and concealed for opportunistic behavior and rationalizations for bad behavior. Something something mask true colors... Thumbs beard while nodding and looking sage Just kidding. The fog of war is exactly how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:49 PM
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You should have negged him a bit by casually mentioning how batshit boring his job must be. That would have got you the BJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:47 PM
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It's not just you, man. It's been bugging me for a while. Some flairs have been crazy long and distracting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:27 AM
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Eh, I see it from time to time and I find it really distracting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:27 AM
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Wuts your point? Is there one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:10 AM
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Well, those things would be "acting feminine" and it would be a sliding scale up from there. Things like only liking chick flicks or running out of the house if he saw a spider etc. Yes, good looking guys win the battle most of the time - same as good looking girls. But, most of the time, people do themselves a disservice when they consider themselves ugly or unattractive, because there are almost always people of the opposite sex who like your look.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:01 AM
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Well, what they say says otherwise. Including me. Apart from the 'feminists' bit - it is true there are quite a few feminists in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:54 AM
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Some want a 50/50 relationship where you do half the dishes and she mows half the lawn. Say wut? Why not just do the dishes if they need doing, and mow the lawn if it needs doing? Half/half stuff as you described it be nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:13 AM
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If you tell a man you are overwhelmed, they will try to fix it He'd probably try to fix your stress with a cuddle that leads to sex (if that's how he likes to de-stress). And while I would like that kind of solution, some women wouldn't, esp. if their real message was that the house needs cleaning. I also really, really disbelieve that most men would like to fix the problem when it comes to house cleaning. It's still a prevalent, subconscious view in partnered/married men's minds that they alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:07 AM
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If he left me, married or not, he would have made a choice to break it off with me, right? Which means there were things about him that I didn't see. Like, he must have been lying when he said all those things to me about our future together etc Or, he must not be someone who knows himself as much as I thought he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:49 AM
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I don't remember ever talking to you before. But please, do keep up the good work. Giving up on women is a fine goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:45 AM
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I'm assuming some are and some aren't like that. My confusion is that the vast majority of women would say they masturbate. So I wonder this: out of the ones who would stop desiring sex if they didn't have it, do they lose libido altogether or keep their libido but just not want a man to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:44 AM
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A man who acts masculine but looks ugly has far better chances then a man who looks fine but acts feminine. If you'd said "ordinary" instead of "ugly" I'd agree with you. In general. Men acting feminine generally isn't attractive to women. And I'm not talking about expressing feelings or being sweet and caring. I'm talking about fussing endlessly with his hair, a soft/girlie voice, walking like a woman with swaying hips, saying "oooh" a lot, having topics of conversation that remind you of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:50 PM
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If I were an impressionable and inexperienced man, this sub might make me give up on women altogether. Oh wait, it has. Oh, cool. I feel like I have accomplished something good in my time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:35 PM
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I find the forum is filled with experienced, overemotional blowhards who had their fill of cock while it was fun and now realize those guys don't want to settle for them. How do you figure? Most of the women here seem to be in happy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:34 PM
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Were you ordering a cake and did he ice his phone number into the frosting? =) I'm not electra-cute, but when I started dating the guy who is partner now, he made me a cake and iced my name on it. So cute I almost died.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:33 PM
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I feel exactly the same. No one would compare to the guy I have now. If he left me, however, he wouldn't be the guy I thought he was, and all bets are off. And, even if he died...the want for sex might eventually drive me to date again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:29 PM
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But you would go crazy without sex? I've never heard a woman say that before. I've definitely said it a few times in PPD. If I couldn't get sex, I'd have to fill my life with some very, very challenging stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:25 PM
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No its a very female centric / female brain type thinking. I don't understand this train of thought. Do you have any scientific links?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:17 PM
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The problem is that you told him what to do. Men do not like being told what to do. My experience has been that men are better with direct communication. I'm not saying you should tell your partner what to do, but you can say "We both need clean towels. How about I wash them on Mondays and you wash them on another day?" He gives his thoughts on that - maybe he thinks they only need washing once a week and if you wash them on Mondays, then he'll do the vacuuming on Saturdays. And you both make a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure most women have trouble balancing their wants and needs so close That they discern exactly what they need when they need it and communicate it constantly. Do men have this same problem, in your view? If you mean it as a general human thing, and explain what you mean more, I might see it differently. In terms of women, I see the women I know well to pretty much know what their wants and needs are. Their communication of those wants and needs to their partners could be lacking thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:50 PM
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So you're so easy going you have zero expectations of your partner or has it been that each long term partner you had fell so short of the bare minimum expectations that you never had a chance to express to them what you truly wanted and needed ? I expect to stay in love with them and continue to feel passion for them - and that's my biggest want and expectation. Give me that, and I'll overlook a lot of small things. And I'll give him my love, respect, time and patience in return. Life's too sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:43 PM
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Constantly receiving a "passing grade" indicates worthiness to continue the relationship. Constantly receiving a "failing grade" indicates unworthiness to continue the relationship. Do you mean you actively and consciously and constantly give out shit tests to test your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:30 PM
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Why would you want the company of women if you're not fucking them? Most are not worth anything but that. You'd be better off asking those men that question. The good news for you is that the age of robot women is at hand/coming soon, and you'll be able to have one of those for fucking, and not have to deal with real women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:28 PM
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I've heard of this. I can easily believe that a small number of men are willing to pay for the 'girlfriend experience' and just for the status of having a beautiful young woman on his arm or just for the human contact. If she states upfront there'll be no sex, he can't complain now, can he? Also, some men are asexual, have erection problems, have prostate problems where they're dribbling urine, have health issues (cancer etc) and don't feel like sex - but they want the company of a woman and som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:06 AM
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Women don't know what they want. Untrue of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:58 AM
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No. And by that I mean it's not just women who do this. Anyone who says only women do this or who buys into the ridiculous notion of only women giving out 'shit tests' is seriously deluding themselves. It's HUMAN to do this. Both men and women tend to forget to respect the person they married and end up grinding the other person down. It's very, very easy to scream and whine and complain when things don't go your way and pile onto the person who is most familiar to you - your partner. Nothing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:55 AM
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Nah, not at all. I don't like to be dominated, that much is true. But I don't like to dominate, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:06 AM
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The underlying bitterness is strong in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:28 AM
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I disagree. With many men, if he likes you, he'll be actively looking for ANY indication that you like him, and he'll see innocuous, totally platonic things as indicators, too. Women don't realise that just talking to some men can make them think you like them romantically. If he has a crush on you, his mind will add things that aren't there. This is why "nice guys" often get incensed when they realise a woman isn't romantically interested in them - because they assumed that she was, just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:24 AM
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Yes, I've seen that exact thing in action. And women who are a bit on the dumb side fall for it. Some women just fail to see "buttering up" for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:17 AM
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Why would I run after some shy loser who's too scared to ask me out? How does that bode for any potential future? I don't see someone who's a bit shy as a loser. I think its cute. I'd see a man who approaches me boldly as someone who's likely to have approached hundreds of women in this way in the past, therefore maybe a bit of a slut (which is fine, but not a good match for me) and it also makes me think that maybe he won't hold back on doing this in the future if things between us go a bit sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:15 AM
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It's complete nonsense to say spatial intelligence completely belong to men. Men are, however, better at spatial tasks than women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 08:56 PM
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A lot of gender is performed. The conditioning is strong. I've seen very girlie, giggly, giddy teenage girls go into the armed forces - and become totally different in less than a year. Do you have links to the old people experiments? Very interesting. Especially seeing as you have very elderly people who are super active into their 90s and beyond, and you wonder how they see themselves and what makes them different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 08:29 PM
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Top marks on that reply, matey. Good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 08:22 PM
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He's not my type at all. But I know a lot of women would respond to him. Within a second of looking him, I'd think he'd do well with women because of his earnest, overgrown-boy, teddy-bear kind of look. He's tall and has an X-factor kind of good looks that aren't perfect, but you could imagine him being the male lead in comedy movies. But, he's homeless, very possibly has a mental illness, and is sleeping on the streets. He's not picking up hot babes of his own age. They're not taking him home. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 08:21 PM
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But remember guys "Game doesn't work" Very tall, fresh and healthy looking, good-looking man prostitutes himself to older women - who feel sorry enough for him to give him a place to sleep plus they get a good screw out of him? And he has all day every day to devote to this, and the women know where to find him when they feel like a root. That's what game is? Being that he's living on the streets, it's a good bet he has a mental illness. His cited number of women could be in extreme doubt, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:32 AM
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Hobosexual Best thing I've read on reddit all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:21 AM
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Go have a cup of covfefe and calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 07:31 AM
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I'd agree with you that Joe is the more submissive one. Bob is doing exactly what Bob wants to do. Also, relativity can apply on smaller scales. In most relationships I've been in, I'm AAB relative to the girl. I'm righteous and have more power than the girls. Your AAB model doesn't make any sense. You can't be a crusader/king/conqueror of nations, but maybe just a high beta. You either are a conqueror or you're not. (Richard Branson etc) You wouldn't be happy being anything less. No just acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:14 AM
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How is that making it woman friendly? I'm just asking why it has to be woman-hating (against all women). It's the substance. No one cares about individual men ranting about their individual lives - if women have done crappy things to them, then it's reasonable they should rant. But the theories about all women being X,Y,Z are weird and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:00 AM
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And I am Trump. Git off social media, will ya?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:56 AM
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and as automation rears and women's advantages in socialization become more central for job placement... what good are men? Ok, yep, that one I understand. I think it's behind a lot of things that men do (both good and bad) - trying to prove their worth. I guess, from women's side of it, many women feel like they enter the world to be in service to people their entire lives, like a servant class, esp. if they have kids very young. Lots of women are opting not to have kids because of this. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:54 AM
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A D cup is probably an indicator of a woman over that of a teenage girl. Breast size is more likely to become larger and rounder after the early to mid-teen years and after a pregnancy or two as well. Perhaps larger breasts were indicators in our past that a woman is a good breeder and able to produce children. (Not that all women grow D cups after having children. I'm just saying larger breasts are an indicator that a woman has passed her early to mid-teen years, and possibly has had children.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:35 PM
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You are correct. RP keeps rabbiting on about how things we desired/needed in our evolutionary past are still hardwired into our brains. Yet, what you outlined proves that we change and adapt as our environment & society etc changes. Yes, there are some 'hangovers' from our evolutionary past, but we are very adaptable. We no longer need women to be built like oxen and so don't select for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:31 PM
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You seem to really like security, at the expense of everything else. Which is fine. A lot of people are more comfortable with a secure, predictable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:25 PM
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I'm unsure what percentage are on the spectrum. I know it's higher percentage than in the general population. I guess the need for systems is a giveaway, and the need for things to be spoken in direct terms before they are understood. But still, they can't all be on the spectrum - wouldn't add up statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:23 PM
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its mourning an era where the things you want and crave were much easier to obtain, in better quality, and new(er) than what is available now. But they really weren't. Jobs were as boring as they are now, but you tended to stick at that one job all your life - as opposed to now, where it's common to swap jobs. If you weren't in the top strata of men, you got to choose from a group of women who were basically ordinary to unattractive, and you got stuck with her your entire life, even if she was h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:25 PM
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Lots of women like to escape to rape fantasy worlds, as evidenced by their porn search histories. Are their rape fantasies making them happy, yet? I don't know anything about that. That's not my kind of fantasy and I haven't spoken to any women about this, so I can't speculate. According to western women's searches on pornhub, they search mostly for lesbian sex & ebony. https://www.pornhub.com/insights/womens-favorite-searches-worldwide
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:22 PM
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Oh I absolutely try to get in the mood. I don't purposefully shut down. I love sex and kick myself that I can't warm up on some occasions when he's in the mood. I'll still have sex with him - most of the time - when I don't feel like it, but I'll tell him beforehand so he knows what to expect. It could be because I have a high libido - and when I shut down, I really shut down. Other than that, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:14 PM
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You're blue, and you're on their side. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:09 PM
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We arnt discussing the .05% failure rate of hormonal birth control It's higher than that. Yep, I give up on discussing this with you. You obviously believe men should be able to run around sticking their dicks in wherever with no responsibility. While women have to take on all the responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:08 PM
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Feminism hasn't found equality. Feminism made men obsolete, and it's up to men to figure out how to deal with that lack of purpose. Why do men feel obsolete? And why do men lack identity? You say you were born 28 years ago and therefore have no stake in what went on before (oppression of women) but yet, at the same time you're buying into this oppression by inferring that men had identity back then (via this oppression). I understand you not wanting to take on responsibility for the past (becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:01 PM
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To be fair, I view most people as inferior or boring in many respects. Finding equals or people I can relate to much is a rather rare occurrence. I don't find people inferior but I do find most people boring and can't relate to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:51 PM
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It would be nice if RP framed their sub like this - instead of making up theories about all men and all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:49 PM
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To women, men are inferior. No. I'm a woman and don't see it like that. Yes, there are challenges in understanding the other gender, but it's not a case of women seeing men as inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:45 PM
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I am just reciting a line of reasoning that has been brought forward by bluepillers here. Don't recite, cite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:41 PM
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The Blue Pill flaired men worship the ground you walk on. They've got you pedestaled so high you all are pissing on them. I don't see that here at all. There's no worshipping going on. In general, the male blues here just have the kinds of personalities that women would find attractive in real life, because they're down-to-earth, know who they are and sound like they're in control of their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:36 PM
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Okay - I wish I could get aroused into wanting sex when I didn't originally feel it, but it just doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:23 PM
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Lots of us escape into fantasy worlds, I guess. Which is why human beings love watching movies. As you were, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:20 PM
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Yeah, I really thought I could hold them to the same standards I hold myself and other men to, lol. That's really nice, Guitars. Is RP making you happy, yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:49 PM
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That's also one of the reasons rp is "misogynistic" it doesn't give hot girls the leeway they normally get. If you do something shitty you get called put on it. I don't think you know the meaning of that word. No one cares if a group of men come together to discuss boundaries - which is what not letting hot girls get away with shitting on you is. RP is misogynistic because (among other things) it claims (repeatedly) that women, in general, make poor judgments in almost all areas of their lives, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:46 PM
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They also sing about true wuvv a lot and sound very vulnerable in their songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:15 PM
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impregnation is 50/50 Yes, exactly. she has 100% unilateral say on weather or not to be a mother... Not if her birth control failed and she has moral objections to abortion/didn't realise she was pregnant until it was too late. There are no unbalanced power dynamics. He has complete freedom to choose to use condoms, abstain or get a vasc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:10 PM
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Smarter women will think more about the reasons to not have sex with you. This is so silly I don't know where to begin. Women do like sex, you know. They're not trying to think up reasons why not to have it, in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:13 AM
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Yes it is. In both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:11 AM
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Apparently, from what I am told by red pillers, alphas are men who can get lots of sex with girls. Therefore, women like men like those from One Direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:15 AM
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No. Tell me what you think will happen if women start shooting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:32 AM
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Yep men have those two things, and vasectomy. He can choose to do any of those things. Women have 50% say in whether a sperm fertilises an ovum. Her birth control can fail - not her fault her body houses a uterus. And the man is fully aware that her body has a uterus and eggs before he squirts his sperm in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:16 AM
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Ever hunted? Gutted an animal? If women start randomly shooting men what exactly do you think will happen? No, and I never want to. I don't eat animals. What do you think will happen if women start randomly shooting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:14 AM
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The other day he turned over and just asked me if 'I wanted to have sex', and for the sake of my sanity I had to explain to him that women aren't ever going to spontaneously want to have sex. Am interested in what that means. Are you saying he's able to seduce you into wanting sex when you didn't feel like sex to start with? My SO asks me if I want to have sex pretty often, and most of the time, I do. I don't need seducing first. But seducing me won't help at all when I don't feel like it - I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 04:10 AM
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I'm not talking about hand to hand fighting, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:20 AM
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I have shot guns at a range. I haven't shot any men, no. But why the hell do you imagine a woman with a gun is any different to a man with a gun? They can both inflict exactly the same damage to another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:18 AM
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True, men can wear a condom. Would you give a higher % of responsibility to men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:16 AM
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The rate was about 2.8 per 100,000 people for the five years prior. In the years afterwards it went from 1.5 to 0.9 and has stayed at about 0.9 for years up until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:14 AM
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You're only going to get 75% of women thinking about what your dick feels like inside them if you're Brad Pitt Maybe 15-30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 11:03 PM
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I think your first reaction to hearing that a guy really wants to play into all that forced, choking, making her cry stuff we covered in the other threads and then some is more of a sane one. Being very, very nervous. True for me. And even more nervous because some men have killed women and then claimed that it was a just a sex game gone wrong (choking). It's a nope from me. If you try to choke me, slap me, pull my hair, pretend to rape me etc, you'll be getting a big ball slap from me, and sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:23 PM
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Yea yea I know, all those highly educated spinsters are just strong independent women who need no men and just have the money to support themselves, but I ain't buying this. I think most people would like to be with someone in a committed relationship, sooner or later. And even it's just a minority of them who has to decide between marrying down and staying single - if their odds are something like 60:40 or whatever, this is still really fucking terrible. Terrible for who? Or do you mean the odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:11 PM
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If you don't make single mothers there will be no more. Yes, this makes sense. But it doesn't stop the fact that millions of men are out there creating single mothers and the net effect of MGTOW on this is nil (not taking away from the fact that women are 50% of the process that creates unintended pregnancies).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 10:06 PM
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No woman is capable of causing even 1% of destruction a violent man can cause(just look throught history). That's a little silly, because if a woman takes up arms (as some did in history and as some are doing today) they can cause every bit as much destruction as men. No woman is capable of causing even 1% of destruction a violent man can cause(just look throught history). That feeling of pure anger is a characteristic of the alpha male. The feeling of pure anger and wish to destroy and win is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 08:15 PM
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But now at 30, I'm thinking more and more about it as a pragmatic way to stop any suffering and complicated situations. Suicide is a dead end and that's all it is. Every human being suffers. Self-hate is hard but you could find yourself in a totally different place in a year or two, wondering why you used to feel so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 02:04 PM
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Nah, it happens sure, but generally men are chill and women are bitchy ho ho ho no. My partner works in a huge company of almost all men. They are not chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:57 PM
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The most dangerous creation of society is a man who has nothing to lose. Or woman with nothing to lose. When women are pushed too far, they'll fight back fiercely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:54 PM
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Hint: It's not gun control or mental illness. In Australia, those were exactly the things that were causing those types of shootings. Lack of gun control and mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:52 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily project that women's suicides will increase proportionally with men's though. Their social role is changing but not wholesale vanishing I'm projecting that based on what is currently happening (women's suicide rates increasing along with men's) and also what things would be like in the future if your scenario played out. It would be hellish for everyone to have that number of men committing suicide and would cause a lot of depression/trauma in the general population. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:31 PM
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Another key point made by others on this same discussion thread and elsewhere is that women who wait to marry at 30 or older are in direct competition with younger women. Yes but men of that age are also in direct competition with hotter younger men, so most of the younger women are not available to them. Most commonly, the age difference is not more than 0 to 3 years. A lot of late 20’s/early 30’s women make numerous complaints about dating and marriage options at those ages. And so do men in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:21 AM
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haha yep, not that dire - will edit. I think I got all caught up in the sadness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:17 AM
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Man, that's depressing. And if 20% of men commit suicide by middle age, then about 5% of women will also be committing suicide (if men committing suicide 4 times as much as women holds). People are just never going to be happy, by and large. Even if we design a way to provide for everyone without most people having to work, what would people become without the drive & struggle to achieve? Seems that women of the 50s who didn't do paid work got through with antidepressants. Are we all doomed to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:54 AM
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Go sit on the naughty chair. And if I catch you swearing again (saying AWALT and the like) I'd be washing your mouth out with soap!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 03:03 AM
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First off, hypergamy formally means marrying up, socioeconomically. TRP and PPD tend to use it to mean whatever the fuck they want, colloquially/informally. First off, we go by rp definitions of their own tinpot theories in this forum. So it doesn't matter what the dictionary meaning is. It's obvious that women will be marrying down more frequently in terms of degrees as more women are graduating from college than men. Obvious to who? I say they will, but RPers have been arguing blue in the face…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 03:01 AM
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pre-tax salary, not take home Yeh, tax is a killer. It's 50% here once you earn over a certain amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 02:51 AM
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Oh, you're changing it to "far above their station" now to avoid being wrong? No. Even one place above their station. Women were far more likely to marry in their own social class than not. Somehow, the poor people of the Middle Ages disagree with you The guilds of the Middle Ages agree with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 02:50 AM
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Thanks for the links. The second link said the study contradicted an earlier study that said women are less likely to get pregnant via rape. So who knows. I think the last link was the most telling. It said the majority of pregnancies happened in teenage girls - and I would guess that the majority of those rapes were carried out by teenage boys. Teen boys and girls are likely to have a high incidence of pregnancy - very fertile eggs and sperm. They really need to note the age of the rapist and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 02:48 AM
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I think it could be a happy marriage, but the person craves attention or has a sex fetish or sex addiction. I have none of those things, and can't imagine cheating on my partner - but if I did, I can imagine I would feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:54 PM
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Covert-NPD Yep - that would describe him well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:53 PM
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Maybe my view is very skewed. I run 2 businesses, with extremely low overheads as I create my own products at a very low cost, so it's almost all profit. But I make nowhere near a hundred grand per month. When someone says they're making a certain amount per month, I think in net dollars, not gross. It's hard to make that much a month straight after working a shit job - which is what was being claimed. You're doing very well to be making that much from a pizza store.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:47 PM
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Nope, I didn't see the word random when I was writing my reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:42 PM
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On a scale of sheldon cooper to charlie manson, where did he fall? lol what a scale. He was very dominating, liked to make the decisions and then started getting physically abusive. Before I married him, he was like a best friend nice guy. But as soon as he had the wedding ring and I lived with him, he dropped the facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:42 PM
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I would not consider such relationship happy. It is illogical. Doesn't seem logical to me either. But that is the claim. And men have been in marriages and cheated for centuries, while claiming to love their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:40 PM
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But the people that most represent a counter to RP ideology? They do, and it's fair game to bring up. A lot of people would counter rp who are not feminist and don't use that lingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:39 PM
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They also say women will fuck the more attractive man, but she can always get commitment so she stays with her bb and just simply cheats. Yep, so they're saying she's trying to 'trade up' and get just the one man. Just like I said. But the more recent stuff I'm seeing is a woman perfectly happy with her husband but just wanting a bit of variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:37 PM
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I believe the n-count study is a good dispute to this. I've known virginal brides and they do seem to be happier with less. I was a virgin bride. I fell out of love quickly and started disliking sex with him after a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:57 PM
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OK – virtually this entire posting summary seems like one big justification for women to have sex with hot, sexy men while they're young and marry the unattractive Beta Provider Schmuck in their late 20’s/early 30’s. Yeah why not? What's wrong with that? Except the beta shmuck provider can be hot and sexy too, and frequently is. She trades her youth for access to said resources. Not worth it to have sex with someone who's unattractive. Also – she gets the benefit of producing children in her you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:49 PM
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And your staff wages and foodstuff etc etc would eat up a hell of a lot of that. You're not making that amount as net profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:40 PM
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Trp says nothing of the kind. Oh yes they do. And they say if a women cheats, then it's to find better 'breeding stock' but if a man cheats, it's 'for variety'. If you can't see how stupid it is that rp is tying themselves in knots trying to explain female cheating, good luck to you. Umm, so I've heard Yeah, yeh, every rper is trying to frame himself as an alpha god.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:35 PM
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Seriously, I think about having sex with three different guys just on my walk to work. Doesn't matter where you fuel up the car as long as you park it at home! Bless you. Sometimes I feel like a deviant in this forum. And I have never even cheated or been a cc'er lol. Many here don't seem to believe women have sexual thoughts - unless an alpha runs his game on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:26 PM
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You moved the goalposts when you added the word RANDOM to your OP. That should have been there from the start if that's what you meant. Of course men don't help random men. That's not patriarchy. And you DID mention patriarchy as part of your OP, which is which I explained what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:24 PM
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The Bible is too old, man. And most of its teachings weren't even followed. Re your 16th century law - I want to see a quote and link. I'm not saying they didn't attempt to help the starving. And so they should help women seeing as they didn't allow them to earn decent money. But I want to see the specific info. Re your 1908 info - that's very recent, about 100 years ago. Feminism had already started.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:22 PM
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You cannot discuss a fuzzy term like "BPers" as though they all go to huffpo and tumblr. That's ridiculous. I've never even seen these tumblr forums talked about here by RPers. RP, on the other hand, means a specific group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:17 PM
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In the Middle Ages, poor families preferred to have daughters (instead of sons). The reason was because women could marry up into a higher social class. Men were pretty much stuck where they were. It was only the upper classes that preferred sons (because men could retain their high status). Peasants married peasants - or just shacked up without marriage. Nobility married nobility. The number of women marrying far above their station would have been few. Women could do little to change their pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:14 PM
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So when you masturbate, is it just to your thoughts? I could never lol. Yes, just that. Porn turns me off. So mechanical and fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:04 PM
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There's another rather nasty fact to human reproduction which goes with it: it appears that rape has a higher chance of resulting in a pregnancy than ordinary consensual intercourse. Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:01 PM
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Just about everything that blue pillers say that involve the buzzwords "privilege" and "patriarchy". I see those words brought up by rp much more. I never use those words, unless in discussion with an rper who used them first. Oh and just seeing the words "okcupid study" gives me hives. Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:00 PM
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100k a month, eh? I know there's a lot of bragging about money in the rp forums, but that takes the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:58 PM
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Wow, we can't help our thoughts. It's what we choose to do that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:56 PM
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That's the Bible. What else have you got that's a lot more recent? (middle ages etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:53 PM
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AF/BB Nah, rp says women don't want to have more than one man at once - they want one alpha at a time. I'm talking about a situation where the woman is in love with her husband, yet still craves variety. She could be having affairs with BBs. What alpha wants an older married woman when they have young single women???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:51 PM
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There are definitely still 'old boys networks' etc at play. Men at the top of their professions are more likely to cover up for each other. Look at this from writer John Grisham - He's trying to say that men are thrown into prison for just 'pressing a few wrong buttons' and looking at child porn. That doesn't happen. He's trying to excuse his buddies: "We have prisons now filled with guys my age. Sixty-year-old white men in prison who've never harmed anybody, would never touch a child," he told …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:46 PM
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The laws making sure women - specifically women! - don't die of starvation, regardless of their status and age, go all the way back to 3rd century. What laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:19 PM
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Yes, the man I met a few months after I left my husband. It went on for a while and I thought it was a comfortable FWB. I was not ready to jump into another relationship. He got hurt. I didn't realise he wanted more. I stopped seeing him when I knew and felt terrible. He was very cute but my head was in the wrong place after my divorce. I just needed to be free. I have known this to happen with a few of my female friends. It gets very messy. With one guy, he kept coming around to see her even a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:05 PM
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Offers and opportunity mean nothing if you're determined to be faithful. But if you're an attention-seeker etc, you'll generally find a way to cheat. Unattractive men do cheat, because there are always women (unattractive or not) who are looking for attention. Newer studies are finding women in happy relationships are cheating, which means they're not branch swinging to alphas, but just looking for a bit of 'flavour' or variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:51 PM
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That was wrong of your friends to do that, and yes it was sexual assault (or rape, depending on what happened).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:38 PM
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Everyone has biases and filters that affect how we analyse things. And computers ARE shared. Lots of women's computers are shared with their teenage and adult kids for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:36 PM
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Yeah, very extreme sexual fantasies have existed for a long time. I'd say not through most of our human history - because nakedness and sex were out in the open. Oral sex definitely wasn't as much an ordinary thing before the age of porn though. Porn made it a big thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:35 PM
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so I doubt he's the right winger you're so clearly trying to imply he is. In no way am I implying that. Everyone has biases and filters that affect how we analyse things. And computers ARE shared. Lots of women's computers are shared with their teenage and adult kids for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:32 PM
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lol yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:21 AM
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De Sade was largely about torturing and raping young children. I seriously don't think most people get off on that kind of thing. People like him are not the usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:19 AM
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And fathers. And dinosaurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:58 AM
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Literally every woman I've had sex with wanted to be dominated, pseudo-forced, held down, maybe choked a little. "I love it when you're rough with me." Could I just confirm something I thought I saw you say the other day? Was it you who said that a woman raped you? Only reason I'm asking is that this woman would be one who didn't want to be dominated and instead wanted to do the dominating (in the worst possible way).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:56 AM
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I'm not sure whether the google data analyst was not interpreting data through his own bias filters - such as the google employee that was recently fired for his biases. I mean, it's not certain it's women doing all that searching. Computers are shared. It's also not certain if women are searching violent stuff because of childhood sexual abuse/depression etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:53 AM
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I have a very high sex drive but don't watch porn. I find porn very tedious and greatly dislike watching women give blowjobs, which it seems porn is mostly about. Boring as hell. I don't like anything that has people forced to have sex either. I find nothing sexy about it. I have sex with my partner every day and also masturbate. No way can he have sex with me as much as I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:45 AM
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What chain?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 12:24 AM
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It would seem so. This sex worker says: "“I’ve had a 90-year-old client, and right down to young men. But the young ones are a nightmare. They want to try and do gymnastics and think it’s real sex." Here
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:13 PM
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Broader definitions of rape - such as penetration of the vagina by fingers while a woman is asleep etc being rape and also counting every instance of rape, such as if a woman is raped by her husband every day. Most instances of rape in Sweden are being reported by immigrants/children of immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:54 PM
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Good on you dicklord.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:40 PM
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Oh my, you're comparing women taking about their dates with a drunk guy pretending he knows rocket science?? You dudes really have a problem, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:10 AM
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Great Scott! You've nailed it (although I'm triggered just using the word 'nailed'). There's just one thing to do - lock up all the men, and then women can "visit" the prisons in order to try to educate them not to rape - and then be violated and triggered and unwillingly seduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:08 AM
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Maybe edit your mind to remove your filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:05 AM
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The experiences of the few red pillers who are actually telling the truth don't reflect most men's experiences. And, eh, women talk, esp. when they've had a few drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:05 AM
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And that's why no one should ever ask men for advice on how to date women either. Men's experiences with women will differ. Just as women's experiences with men differ. Seeing as this is a rape culture thread, I will say I have never been in a situation where rape happened to me or came close to happening to me. Does that mean my experiences mirrors that of all women? Nope, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 01:41 AM
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Go on a lot of dates and make sure to respect the womans' boundaries by never flirting with or touching her then report back to me how many second dates you get. If I like him, I'd second date him for sure. Almost all the men I've dated didn't flirt or touch me on the first dates. Flirting would have been fine, but they didn't. Touching might have made me think 'oh, all he wants is sex? Next.' All i want is intelligent convo and an interesting personality. But all women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:27 PM
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I agree we shouldn't put rapists in the same boat as sexual harassers etc. Different kettle of fish. And can we please all agree that grown men from ages 18-65 would in fact date 15 year old girls if they could and secretly see nothing wrong with that? I don't agree with this. Not all men are interested in children. From what I see, most men would like a partner who he could share interests with and whom he didn't have to father/put up with teenage talk. The age of consent here is 16, but I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:21 PM
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That's a silly thing to say. Feminists date and marry men all the time. Why would they do that if they think all men are rapists and that all sex is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:07 PM
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Okay, might be a whole different ball game there. I can't imagine doing this, but I'm going to believe you that NYC is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:27 PM
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If he wants you, he'll give up the other women without you having sex with him. Never have sex with a man you want for an LTR who is seeing other women. That's a fool's game and you're lucky it worked without you getting your heart broken. "Falling out of love" with him if he continues to plate you is not guaranteed to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:51 PM
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If I'm having sex with a man, he may not have sex with anyone else. Those are my rules. So, no, I cannot be plated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:43 PM
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Yeah, i know that female contraceptives were passed a long time ago. I don't agree though that the standards would be as high. They'd be as high "on paper" because they have to be, but a lot would get fudged. Because the terrible effects of women's contraceptives are being constantly swept under the carpet. So it's real and it's happening right now. But we don't care, because, hey, less babies and big money. I've read that LSD is psychologically addictive. What do you find good about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:41 PM
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--it's our nature and imperative to go out and compete, to slay dragons, to fight and win, to make money. That's my nature, too, and a lot of women's. --staying at home with kids would bore me to tears to the point of wanting to stab myself in the neck. Most men, even today's low T pajama boy hipster metrosexuals, don't want to do it and would be bored out of their minds doing it. Me too. And many women return to work for the same reason. They can't do it. --we know you will lose respect for us …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:32 PM
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I'm talking about the incel forum, in which they did absolutely keep talking about government run sex for men - forcing women to provide sex for men. In a rape, someone has actively done something terrible to another person. Most rape victims, however, don't fantasise about killing all the men in the world. They might fantasise about killing that one person. Women didn't deliberately "not give sex" to incels, and incels are not victims. No one victimised them. You could also say that better-look…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:26 PM
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Okay! I see you're someone who likes werdz, lot and lots of werdz, but not action. Good show, matey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:17 PM
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heheheheheh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:15 PM
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Why are you still here? Go away...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:15 PM
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I'm outed! Yes, I stayed to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:14 PM
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Yep, the 'enjoy the decline' people are just going to snipe and whine away in their miserable forums and never do anything to actually change the things they say they hate. Two feminists changed the world with the pill. Action, not words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:13 PM
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The manosphere has tons of older men and I see men in trp brag about their income. There is money there. And if they get together, they could start a movement and bring in guys who do have billions. That would be an amazing thing. Real action, not just trpers hating on women in their women-hating forum. Something that changes the world. Like a couple of feminists did back in the 50s. The manosphere could actually mean something and stand for something - stand for men. Change is possible. You jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:10 PM
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I think it's simply the fact that women's hormonal pills are biologically easier to make. They tried to make a hormonal BC pill for men but it caused some of the subjects to become permanently infertile and there was a suicide IIRC. So it's not like they haven't tried to make BC pills for men. It's just not as easy to do because biology. There are thousands of women this has happened to because of female contraception. Infertility, becoming suicidal and babies growing in the wrong places - leadi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:07 PM
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You can't bring a pharmaceutical to market by soliciting donations. AND YET, that is exactly what vasalgel is doing - asking for donations. As per my OP. There are enormous financial interests opposed to vasalgel. For one, manufacturers of HBC for women. All other conventional contraceptives are aligned against vasalgel too. YES. As per my OP. That doesn't mean it won't and can't happen. Vasalgel is already almost there. most importantly, Vasalgel would put birth control in men's control, withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:58 PM
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What I was saying is that when a relationship first starts, people make a lot of time for each other - including long sessions of sex. This tends to drop off later on when they're living together. Life takes over and they're both busy. The man's anatomy being what it is, he can come quickly. And slowly, sex ends up being about him, without the man intending for this to happen. I'm NOT saying men are sexually incompetent at all. And the situation I just described doesn't always happen, but it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:53 PM
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They are close - most of the money and research has ALREADY been done. They just need to know it can be flushed away and the man's fertility restored. I'm not saying the manosphere has to do it all - they can start a movement and get big players involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:47 PM
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Yeah, i noticed girls in school rubbing on their stools in science class lol - way before I myself became aware of my own sexuality. I was a bit slow - age 14. When it hit me, it hit like a truck though. No boys involved. It was an all-girls school.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:44 PM
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Are the penis rings good? (Eh, sex toys don't provide better stimulation. My OP was about how mechanical and fast the orgasm was. It's good, but sex with my partner is 1000 times better.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:42 PM
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I also know women paying alimony. They're American friends. Yes, they bitch about it. I don't ever hear of men that are happy about it though either. And from what I read in PPD, many states in America don't have alimony anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:38 PM
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Why don't men want to do it? Is it just because they'll feel they'll lose attraction in their wives' eyes, or other things? I want to do this with my partner, but so far, he hasn't made the leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:37 PM
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Yeah. It's all fun and games until she says she's pregnant. Then they expect her to 'deal' with that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:35 PM
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I don't think men could, no. There's a bit of suction and bit of vibration, and pretty fast, depending on speed setting. But, why does it matter? Men can do what a machine can't. And, my OP is saying that it felt a bit mechanical and too fast and too strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:34 PM
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Government funded vacs and sperm/egg freezing would be great. Married women who've had their kids and would like to go without contraception would love this. There would be far, far fewer abortions. Men would have greater power to choose whether they become fathers or not. The govt could open themselves up for litigation though if the frozen sperm/eggs 'went bad' in the freezer and didn't work. I just hope the new male contraception options are soon here, and govt funded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:31 PM
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That's not about men being shit in bed. It's about life. When people first meet each other, they're likely to make a lot of time for each other. Sex is often long and relaxing. But a year or so down the track, when they're living together, things can rapidly change. Sex is quick because they're both busy - and men are generally able to orgasm much quicker than women. It's an anatomy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:26 PM
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Evan isn't good looking relative to what's commonly defined as attractive.... I think he's very good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:50 PM
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There is an aura of "men are no longer needed lolol" in your post. No such thing. You were reading it through some filter of your own. That being said, the fact that women need the Super Sucker Blaster 3000 to get off with any level of efficiently simply proves the point that women are more difficult to get off. lol my post does NOT say that. I have been very efficiently getting off on my own without toys of any kind for many, many years. A minute though is damned fast. You said the point of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:45 PM
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"Sex Among the Animals." Maybe rethink. That sounds like a woman's memoir of dating red pillers... Nah, that's kinda cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:39 PM
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More stinky blathering...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:36 PM
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Atlas I need some breeding tips ASAP I don't know why... I read that as you wanting breastfeeding tips from Atlas at first. I was about to tiptoe away...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:27 PM
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Okay! Top job on that post matey. Top marks. Pat yourself on the back. Good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:22 PM
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Stop stinking up posts with blathering and say something real. Say what you mean, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:19 PM
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Agree with all of this. I'm actually not certain about the vagina being a 'dead cavity' for most women though. I don't know what most women would say. It's not that way for me, at all. Every bit of it feels good, esp the fornix area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:18 PM
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Bored at work You were not. You love my posts and wish they were pages longer. Entire books even.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:07 PM
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Typical bloop with a "it is all men's fault" post. How on earth did you get that from my OP??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:06 PM
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Uh, who are you describing as duds and why? That's kinda offensive. I know several women, myself included, with higher libidos than their partner. Yep. Men being described as duds if their sex drive isn't raging is a prime reason why men exaggerate their sex drive or refuse to seek help for a low sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:01 PM
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/thread /dead in the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:55 AM
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There must be some doing okay - I do see people bragging in there. And they can get together and start a movement and bring in people outside the manosphere who do have a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:54 AM
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Radioactive isotopes don't sound good. Do you mean the Indian version and not vasalgel?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:53 AM
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Good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:50 AM
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Yes to all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:49 AM
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I️ thought OP just said it doesn’t affec ejaculation? Yep, according to the info on their site.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:46 AM
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Women needed birth control BECAUSE of the patriarchy. Is that not a little unfair on men? I get it - it was men making women constantly pregnant. They could have abstained or wore condoms. But, people in committed relationships like to have sex without condoms. Women were just given a bad bodily design by nature. It would be far better if we could choose to get pregnant or not. There are serious design flaws, including women's bodies not being properly designed for childbirth. So says I.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:44 AM
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It takes more time to culminate, yes. A lot more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:37 AM
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Male contraception has always existed: condoms and vasectomies. What is this post? Read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:35 AM
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Because they all broke from paying child support Nope. Many say they are never getting married or having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:35 AM
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It's an internet forum not a consortium of Fortune 500 CEOs. There has to be some manospherians making a few hundred thousand a year. Esp if they don't have kids or wives to support. You don't need to be a fortune 500 to make that kind of money. And if they all pool together and then bring in lots of men outside the manosphere... they could do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:34 AM
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And that's why Big Pharma won't fund it. They'd rather have everyone taking a pill every day. More $$$$$ to be made. Yep, agreed. Some women's IUDs and implants last for years though - up to 10 years one of them I think. But... the men's contraceptive would be taking business away from the women's. And the men who run it all are so much more comfortable doing this stuff to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:31 AM
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women need an extreme mechanical gizmo to "extract" an orgasm from themselves right when they wake up in the morning. Wut? That's just me that's not horny in the morning. I have no idea how other women operate. Why does any mention of women's libido or orgasms bring some manospherians out with their 'but whaddabout muh leebeedoh??!!' I said little about my personal libido in my OP as it wasn't needed. But, because you misunderstood my post - I don't need a machine to orgasm. I'm aroused pretty m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:53 AM
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Then what is the problem? Birth control pills, IUD's, condom manufacturers, the Church. Lots and lots of interest groups that will covertly fight against this. Plus add to this the FDA which is mostly just run by drug companies. Yep, I quoted someone saying this in my OP. This is understood. Drugs cost billions of dollars to bring to market, even if by a miracle we can get this to the US with hundred million, no company is going to be interested in it. Simply not enough money to be made. Vasalge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:47 AM
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It's just not quick - that can be long and you can end up going numb and he can tire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:38 AM
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Yea, 4 partners and your talking to your friends about sex toys. You have probably had 60 partners. Only sluts and whores talk about sex toys with other women. Your laughable. More like a cum cumpster at 60 partners. Thank you, incel. Your comment has been very insightful, enlightening and whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:36 AM
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MGTOWs maintain they still use women for sex (if they want. Many of them "don't want"....) All of the manospherians have a hate of single mothers because they say they siphon men's taxes and also make them fearful that a sexual encounter will lead to fatherhood. So, why not do something about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:34 AM
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I've heard of that quite a bit. It depresses me to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:47 AM
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You found a sex toy. Congrats. No one cares. Then why are you here commenting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:22 AM
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I don't think there is evidence of 'betas dying' when tribes were nomad. We have pretty recent evidence of the Australian Aborigines, who were nomad. All tribe members seemed to survive. Women gather most of the food in tribes anyway, so betas are provided for by women. Yes, agriculture definitely would have helped the weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:20 AM
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Which IMO is the main reason as to why it doesn't exist. Yep. I have a quote about that in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:18 AM
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She's acting as a mother trying to mother a child, when in fact he's a grown man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:14 AM
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If you're not going to read an OP properly, go race squids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:09 AM
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If you hear bzzz bzzz bzzzzzzz late at night, you'll know you're being cat called. Take out the batteries before you get too triggered (or too turned-on, whichever comes first....)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:21 AM
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The reality is a lot of us are not wealthy and those of us who are often can't be "out" about our support for the MHRM. In addition, few of us are scientists. In addition, large corporate funding would be needed to develop and trial a form of male contraception up to FDA standards... and large corporations are publicity-sensitive and know that there's a hell of a lot more good will and money in "protecting women" than in "advancing men's interests." There have to be some wealthy members. You don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:16 AM
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I hope it's not harassing you with its alpha vibrator-gaze and making you get wimmin tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:11 AM
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Have you donated to male birth control then? Yes, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:09 AM
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If I was around in the 50s, I would have donated whatever I could have afforded to. These days, I'm interested in women being able to stop having their hormones messed with all their productive lives and men being able to control whether they become fathers or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:38 AM
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What's the gold?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:28 AM
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That might or might not be it ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:25 AM
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A lot to digest there, Fig! Gee, you started early! I think I was about 14. I've never needed anything lovey dovey or feelings-related in order to climax either, but it's always involved a rush of different sensory things and seemed like a "deep" experience. But this device made it all seem so mechanical and clinical. Like, press a button and there it is. I kind of thought only men could orgasm like that and women needed more. I was wrong. Hope you didn't think I was framing women's lack of orga…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:24 AM
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I call bullshit on this one. Never once have I been seduced by a vibrator! That is the single best response I've seen yet to the claim that women tend to have reactive sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 02:15 AM
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Probably, as long as she gave a bit of guidance as to the spot. My partner tried it on me on Sunday afternoon, and yep, all good. Especially good for parents with young kids who have very, very little free time for sex. I wonder how it works on anorgasmic women I'd say they have deeper physical problems and a device probably can't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:14 AM
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Because that money would be better put to use on things men want like sex dolls or its superior form of holographic neuro-simulation (ie. The Matrix). Men of the manosphere want single never-married mothers not to exist because they are hysterical about them sponging their tax dollars. But they're not doing anything serious about it. All they gotta do is stop the flow of sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:07 AM
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But... for all that, single never-married mothers are still a thing, and the manosphere hates 'em. So, this is a real solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 01:05 AM
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Should no fault divorce include no support? Makes no sense to have no support of kids if support is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:39 AM
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They're doing hookers and blow in Vegas hotels right now, they don't have time for that shit. lol yet they have endless time to write their bloated meanderings in trp and mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:36 AM
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Because the description is pretty clear lol and because there are different brands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:24 AM
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No, I am asking why the manosphere can't fund it. There is indeed a strong in-group bias in the manosphere along with the constant hate of single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:16 AM
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hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:13 AM
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Candy? She makes a lot in her business. Just looked them up - they actually cost about $40 in the USA. And they cost her a LOT less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:13 AM
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Of course women will be bitter. Divorces are often bitter. A better way would be working 3 or 4 days a week and the other day/s caring for the kids. A nanny for the in between day/s. If a divorce happens, they continue, just in separate houses. No alimony or child support needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:11 AM
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Ever seen a man gladly pay it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:00 AM
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Raging hormones be raging hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:00 AM
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I've seen those posts. It's all about chipping in a few dollars, but there's been no real huge push with serious money behind it (from what I've seen).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:59 PM
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Eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:57 PM
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Yes 100% true. It's just that, with all of the unintended pregnancies, it's obvious that condom use isn't always being observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:57 PM
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They have the choice is they find a woman who wants this. But there are not many men around that would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:56 PM
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Sigh, yes. It's just the speed and the mechanical aspect of this from a 'cold start' that surprised me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:52 PM
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Yep. You wonder why manospherians aren't lining up. This is their calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:08 PM
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I do not believe that type of man has the appropriate foresight for bothering with such things As I said, parents would be taking their 15 year old sons down to get this injection if it was proven safe and effective. And then it would last until they were 25. Given that brains are properly developed at age 25, I'd say a lot of men would then choose to go have it done again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:07 PM
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where are the men pouring their monies into this since according to men HERE its SO important? Seems complaining about women and their baby-making wombs takes priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:02 PM
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I imagine there's a lot of research that's still to be done - and that's why they need a heap of funding. With the female pill, the testing was effectively done on millions of women, but I realise that any new male contraception will have to be just about perfect before they release it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:00 PM
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Cool, good to know your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:48 PM
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Yes but very young men (who produce most of the babies of unmarried single mothers, as far as I know) are unlikely to go to the expense and bother of vasectomy and freezing sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:47 PM
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I looked it up and added the info at the bottom of my OP. Seems they can flush it away but still need more research to be 100% certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:30 PM
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For the cucks, mandatory paternity testing would get that shit out of the way right now, that should be a legislative focus and also achievable. Apparently, you can still jizz with vasalgel and the other methods like it. All problems solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:25 PM
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I can TMI my vasectomy vs ejaculate volume experience if you like. TMI away. We need more open, frank discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:21 PM
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It can just be taken out at any time as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:20 PM
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I love bleeding all over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:16 PM
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I don't know what this injection thing is Vasalgel and RISUG. In my links.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:12 PM
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Jeez does it really cum down to jizz?? (excuse the pun) Schrodinger's Cum. Well, there's also Schrodinger's baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:10 PM
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Because it's ONE injection that lasts 10 years. As opposed to hundreds or thousands of condoms over 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:06 PM
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Pfffffh, OF COURSE I am all for it. Let's make this a thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:03 PM
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They want to jizz ribbons of elmers glue like in the movies. lolz Men probably won't use this if it moves them further from their dream of spewing out buckets of powerful man milk. Well, it doesn't jizz far when it ends up in a condom. The jizzing could be a problem, but when compared to having babies they don't want, surely they'd be smart enough to weigh up the costs. Or not. Edit: Okay, so from other posts below, it seems that men can still jizz, but it won't have sperm in it. That's gold, ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:03 PM
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A lot of men don't want to use condoms at all. They should, but they don't. Plus, you have to remember to take them with you at all times and use them effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:00 PM
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Why do you think the guys knocking up single mothers are going to be forward thinking enough to bother with it? If it was cheap and effective, they would. One injection last for 10 years. Parents would also take their teen boy to the doctor to get it, just like mothers take their teen daughters to the doctor to get the pill now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:54 PM
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I like the idea of motherhood as a profession. It would allow to punish incompetent parenting. So, you're all for paying mothers to do the 24/7 job that they do, complete with the 'danger' money for the high maternity death rate/sleep deprivation etc? YAY!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:23 PM
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I think if it becomes acceptable for men to stay at home and care for kids, then things will change. At the moment, women know that this burden falls on them (if they want to have kids) and so if they choose a man whose income falls way below hers, then the lifestyle she's worked hard for and wanted for her kids might be severely impacted. There would be a percentage of women who only want a man with a status that matches hers/is higher than hers just for the status alone. This kind of woman wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:21 PM
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You realize most party girls are banging red pill types. Very doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:44 PM
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Paid for with exclusively women's tax money? Stuff for women isn't exclusively paid with men's tax money, so no. And the government isn't using taxes to pay women wages for having and raising children, which is pretty unfair. Women are just expected to do it, like it's some hobby or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:44 PM
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They DO get evaluated before being allowed to work. And yet, lots of them are obese and on drugs and exhausted - and allowed to be on the roads in that condition. I don't understand you. Women don't give birth yearly until their retirement. Truck drivers do work yearly until their retirement. The risk for truckers is spread out over a lifetime of work. The risk for pregnant/birthing women is confined to two events (on average). Yet, the risk to these women per 100,000 is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:41 PM
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Per 100,000 childbirths, not per 100,000 women per year. Thanks, Captain Obvious. Although, that's not correct either, because some women will die due to pregnancy-related conditions. Average amount of births per woman in the US is around 2. Average amount of years worked by men in a lifetime is... well at least an order of magnitude higher. Which makes the death rate for women (in terms of pregnancy/childbirth) even more dire. The death rate for these women is higher than truck drivers, over ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:20 PM
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Who said women who party are dumb, damaged, insecure or low quality???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:01 PM
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If people have grown tired of the topic, surely they'll just die as soon as they're posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:59 PM
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And what's the main reason, may I ask? I don't think there is one, but I've read that a big reason is that the woman believes that the man is just under stress and he's lashing out but it's not the real him, and that he'll get back to being himself if she just rides it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:55 PM
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That's normal - everyone's different. That's why I gave my experience and said that I have a high libido and that I'm not alone in being the way I am (which is saying that some but not all women are like me, because it annoys the shit out of me when a woman attempts to speak for all women in this forum). Many years ago, I did have some friends who accepted the risks and had lots of one-nighters. They enjoyed it. I'm too risk-adverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:38 AM
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Is that so absurd in your mind? It could be one reason, but you framed it as the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:30 AM
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Why are you? God knows. Instead, I could be filling my pool with all that free cash and swimming in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:29 AM
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The hot girl also tends to be the funny and outgoing one too though. Not from my experiences - it's a mix. Usually, the most popular girls/women are a bit overweight and very affectionate/warm/funny & laugh a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:28 AM
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Strongly disagree. I've seen men call their wives to fetch them something, and the woman comes running. I've seen men make the decisions about almost everything on a daily basis in a relationship (old neighbours of mine) and the woman constantly concede. Not all relationships operate the same. Egalitarian relationships do absolutely exist. Of course they're imperfect, as is every relationship. But it's not just a perception. When a big thing comes up, it's discussed and agreed upon in a way that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:38 AM
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To some extent (more than what some women would care to admit) this goes towards securing the pecking order of said group. So imaging the position of the least attractive girl in the group you would witness time and again your friends constantly being hit on while you, at best, sit and wait or at worst attempt light conversation with one of the guys who isn’t really interested in you but is the wingman to keep you distracted in order for one of his buddies to score. lol women don't have a peckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:28 AM
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Damn, why the hell am I working so hard and making a few hundred grand a year and then paying half of it out in tax?? Where's my free money and gifts, dammit!? The government doesn't seem to realise that I am a woman. What is this bullshit? Why the hell am I paying for penises to scurry about creating babies that the penis's owners do not want to pay for and nurture? Off with those penises!! Or at least put some kind of stop to them. Vasectomies for all men, until they've signed a guarantee of "…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:23 AM
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And finally, their occupational death rates are estimated at 24 per 100,000 per year - rated the 7th deadliest job in the US. Seeing as you mentioned having and raising children as a viable job for women - it should be mentioned that the death rate for women on the job in childbirth/pregnancy was 28 in every 100,000 (2013, USA) and 25 in every 100,000 (2015, USA) https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/health/maternal-mortality.html Pregnancy and childbirth is also dangerous to women due to the risks…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:11 AM
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Men in the absence of women - in prison for instance - are violent dark triads.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:14 AM
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you can have different varieties of sex with men other than PIV, but you can bring yourself to like only a few of them because you have a lower libido. Being more sexually selective makes you have a lower libido by definition. No, being sexually selective does not give you a lower libido. It does give you a lower drive to go out and seek sex. Sex is often not rewarding for women for a large number of reasons. So many women prefer to stay at home and masturbate. Lol, who care for science when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:12 AM
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Orgasming once a week does not make you have a high libido Oh dear, you didn't read my post properly. I said that I have trouble getting through 2 days without orgasm - which means that I have them every day, 7 days a week. I think maybe women just don't get how high mens libidos really are I think maybe some men don't realise that many women have lived with men, and know exactly how many times a week men want sex. It's often not every day and generally not twice a day. I am pretty much always r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:38 AM
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Because it's not an effort to understand women. It's an effort to understand the men who can't get women. Which is ok. But rp make it out to be something it's not. The efforts and experiences of these kind of men will never lead to an understanding of women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:32 AM
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And???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:04 PM
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Just kick Chad in the nuts and run....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:03 PM
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Right. Now the question that remains is what did the other guy mean? It was big D's OP. He gets to define the terms and what the discussion is about. That's what OPs are. Now if you lecture him about him having used the wrong word that is a separate discussion than the previous one. You did not change his point or opinion. You are just debating semantics and not the merit of his argument. It's up to the commenter to state that he or she has changed the terms of the discussion and gone off on a t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:23 PM
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I think every blue here and most intelligent reds would understand that he's saying 'groping means unwanted grabbing: therefore, it's unwanted and can't be anything else'. You can't argue with that. If someone wants to discuss something else, they can but they have to redefine it - such as 'do some women sometimes like to be grabbed/touched by some strange men but not other men?' And the answer would be yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:14 PM
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Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:10 PM
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I'm slapping any man who gropes me. Unless it's Chad. No woman can resist the Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:08 PM
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I don't think so, our morality is probably more informed by our sexuality. No, sexuality is informed by morality - look at it esp. from a female perspective and you'll see it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:06 PM
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Somewhere along the line, definitions have to mean something. If they mean nothing, then we're all talking double-speak and nothing means anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:04 PM
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How do you manage to have this little reading comprehension? That is the constant frustration with lots of ppl in pills other than blue in PPD. Reading comprehension. It's pretty dire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:03 PM
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How did you get that out of what she said? They seem to have Chad on the brain constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:59 PM
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You don't know what the definition of libido is. If you can only have an orgasm with Chad while a man can have an orgasm with anything below a 5/10 in casual encounters than you don't have a high libido compared to us. Oh jeez. Where do I start? Men do not possess the correct apparatus to give the majority of women easy orgasms during PIV, Chad or not. By libido, I mean the desire to have an orgasm, not the ease by which you can one during PIV sex. Those are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:56 PM
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You're just reading it all through some weird moral panic filter. Be at peace, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:51 PM
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I agree with you that most girls aren't out there spinning plates, but I disagree with the reasons. I think that desire for sex and libido get mixed up a lot in these discussions. I think also that men get the idea that most women have a low libido because they aren't out seeking sex. But there are strong reasons why most women don't seek casual sex. I have a very high libido, but I never went out looking for casual sex. The risks, for me, seemed too high. To explain (warning, TMI) - I can absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:45 AM
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No, of course not. Same as men not fully understanding how women feel - which makes trp's efforts laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 11:16 AM
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'Moral panic' seems to be your go-to phrase. Actually, I think that we'll keep moving towards public nudity being okay, bit by bit, and that's a good thing. I'll still never think groping is A-ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 04:07 AM
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I'm not even talking about a tinhorn dictator - just a man who sees himself as the leader of the household. He could be super benevolent and nice, but ... how can I explain this...? I guess, my esteem for him would change, because I'd start to see him as deriving his ego from petty things rather than 'big, important' things outside the household. So, a man who wants to lead the household is a lesser man in my eyes. No judgement on people who want to run their household in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 04:02 AM
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Evidence is there that people were pretty egalitarian before the start of agriculture - and that the power structures began afterwards, because for the first time, some people had more than others and ways of keeping that excess food to themselves. I'd see the age of the alpha male springing from that, and women wanting to be with the alphas who could provide the most food.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:56 AM
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That worries me - not the maladjusted jackasses but those on the spectrum. Because they can't help who they are. Doesn't excuse the women-hate, but I still don't want to debate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:55 AM
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Do you really think most men have problems understanding women? Why then, do women seem to understand men? It's interesting. I think men get nervous talking to women because a lot of pressure is on men to approach, and they run the risk of being rejected. Rejection feels awful to both men and women. There's also far more pressure on men to be smart/high status/confident/knowledgeable etc. And they worry about looking like an idiot or something in the eyes of women (and other men).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:52 AM
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Evidence is there that people were pretty egalitarian before the start of agriculture - and that the power structures began afterwards, because for the first time, some people had more than others and ways of keeping that excess food to themselves. I'd see the age of the alpha male springing from that, and women wanting to be with the alphas who could provide the most food.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:46 AM
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Life isn't supposed to be a smooth ride. No, but you don't want to end up with a sexual assault conviction either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:43 AM
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So your saying women never like to be groped? Even by men they are attracted to? I go by the meaning of 'grope' that is 'unwanted grabbing of someone's body'. Therefore, it can't be liked because it's unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:41 AM
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It's not "dominate" it's dominant. No, the word in that context is definitely 'dominate'. Bad grammar to use the word dominant in that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 04:00 PM
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Yes, it does. I have to wonder how many of the thought leaders of rp are also on the borderline of the spectrum. If it turns out that this is the case, I'll stop debating rp'ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:58 PM
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You sissy pajama boy, running from a fight. Come back 'ere so's I can dominate you some more!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:55 PM
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Okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:53 PM
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In fact, you can make a great case that we’ve been progressively breeding “alphaness” out of males since the agricultural revolution. Nope, that's when it started getting bred in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:53 PM
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That doesnt mean it'll overpower women's desire for a big strong destructive alpha man. Only a small percentage of women want a "destructive" male in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:50 PM
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if you don't like the word "king", use "leader" or "dom". Same same. Because there's always a dom, even if you don't think there is, even if you don't intend it. Yes. I'm dominating you right now. Don't take it badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:46 PM
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You can't have a relationship between two people where the balance of power is precisely equal all the time. People in a relationship have different areas they're good at, and the balance swaps back and forth at times - and most times it's just pretty even. No, it's not old fashioned thinking that someone's the dom. Someone is ALWAYS the dom. And in every relationship I've ever seen where the woman says "we're exactly equal", she's the dom. My partner and I are equal. I'm so not a dominant perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:44 PM
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Yes but if they do happen to want that on that particular night, and sometimes they do...they certainly don’t want you to ask “excuse me but umm would you mind if I umm...groped you?” Yes. I think the lines get crossed where women encourage sexually aggressive behavior in hot guys by responding to it with lust. What lines? And 'sexually aggressive' sounds a lot different to a couple doing a bit of dirty dancing on the dance floor. Unattractive guys wanting to know how to attract women watch thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:38 PM
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Yip. Git out there and start a groping!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:30 PM
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If it makes you feel better, use the word "leader" or "dom". Because someone's got to be the dom. All those words lead to the same path. Most women I've met can't run their own lives very well. Or at least they do better when a man (their father, their husband) does it for them. Nice anecdata. And even if they can run their own lives just fine, they don't want to do it. They strongly prefer having a man go out and earn the majority of the money while she works a job earning less money (but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:29 PM
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How does a relationship work with two kings? Wrong question. The concept of a king in a household or in a relationship is childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:23 PM
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Again, so what? Yip, I agree. So what. A red piller in trouble is no skin off anyone's nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:42 PM
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Do you think most women DO want to be the king? In my experience ,when you let a woman be king or force her into that role, she hates it, and she really can't do it. And in fact she really cant do it even when the only person she has to "rule" is herself. Oh for shit's sake, it's a house and a household, not a castle and a kingdom. What is this "can't do it' nonsense? Can't do what? Live in a house and run a household? You're severely overcomplicating things. Most women would not know what you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:38 PM
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I find the thought of a man as the leader of his household revolting. When I see a relationship like that, I invariably feel sorry for the woman and think the man is a complete dick. Also, when I see a woman dominating her husband, I feel sorry for the man. I can't feel attraction to a man who wants to be the leader of the household. It feels childish to me. But I know, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:25 PM
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Gotta love the hand wringing moral panic. That's pretty naive. And who says it can only happen at a bar? Groping can happen in a lot of situations, and if the woman reports it, a lot of things can result. The man can lose his job, get slapped with charges or get punched by the woman's boyfriend/male bystander etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:19 PM
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Imagine a club where some people are dancing. A hot guy goes up to a girl and starts rubbing up on her. She's okay with this. No, not unless she's intending on having casual sex that night and on the lookout for a hot guy, and she is ok with physical contact from a stranger on the dancefloor. Otherwise, if you want an LTR, a hot guy rubbing himself on you is signalling that he just wants sex, and he is therefore of no value to you whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 02:12 PM
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Pretty sure it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 09:00 AM
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Men changed from being hypergamous in the middle ages, as their situations changed. So can women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:04 AM
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Women will be just fine. Change can happen quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 01:57 AM
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You conclude that if everyone knows something, it is not an RP Truth. But these obvious truths ARE the basis of Redpill knowledge. I'm concluding that RP cannot claim these things as "rp truths" as though they were the ones to identify them. If everyone knows and it's common knowledge, no group can claim to identify it. The Blue Pill does not deny these obvious truths. That's impossible. It subjugates them. Meaning that they are not given the amount of priority that they should - they are downpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:56 PM
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I'm no feminist but just in terms of abstract justice I'd have no problem calling this sexual assault No one was assaulted. If it was, then everybody at a football match who sees a streaker could claim sexual assault. The fact that it was done in a closed room and that he started masturbating certainly kicks it up a notch, but he still didn't assault the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:42 PM
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We all know that women prefer good-looking, successful men. Yes, everyone knows that. CONCLUSION: Not an RP truth That "Nice Guys" don't get laid, while "bad boys" do. Most women want nice guys and have sex with nice guys. It's an RP falsehood that only bad boys get laid. Bad boys get laid by bad girls - to put it in as simple terms as possible. CONCLUSION: An RP falsehood That Men and Women are different - they desire and value different things. Everyone knows this. CONCLUSION: Not an RP truth …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:33 PM
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Are you Australian - sounds like you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 08:55 PM
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It will change though. If women can't get a 'professional' man, they'll have to opt for a man that is blue collar and/or with less education.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 08:55 PM
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Things do seem to be a bit different in australia judging what Australian women have told us over the years here at PPD. Yes, things are more relaxed, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 08:52 PM
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Good post. But you can't, unfortunately, dish up rational statements to this crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:59 AM
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I read a well known red piller say this a couple of days ago. He said he would never stay at home with the kids because he would 'lose his masculinity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:56 AM
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What hypocrisy of feminist women? Maybe my perspective is different because I'm Australian. Women with degrees will often happily partner with men who work in trades here. A psychologist woman with a carpenter husband is pretty common. They're often all still in the same group from highschool - no one cares who became what.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:53 AM
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Yes, exactly what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:48 AM
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S'all there on the sidebar, dude. Sounds like you want to present a sanitised, watered-down-beyond-recognition version of trp. That won't cut the mustard. Also, a stickied post won't stop pesky women from reading further - you can't stop 'em. See, you gotta get more tricksy. Maybe rename the sub 'Last year's shoes sales' - that'll keep those harebrained females out. And this subtitle will really knock the females and blue males for six: No red flair? Don't care.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/17 05:08 AM
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That would be fine. He can be in charge of himself and I can be in charge of myself. But that's not how a 'captain' is portrayed in rp. He's portrayed as making the important household decisions and guiding the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 03:41 AM
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A victim doesn't talk endlessly about rape farms etc. Women didn't deliberately hurt you. But you guys talk about rape farms. How do you think that makes women feel? I'm genuinely sorry for anyone who feels on the fringes of society and rejected by the opposite sex. But I have no sympathy for the ones who have sicko fantasies of doing harm to people who haven't knowingly done harm to you. And that stuff was allowed in the incels forum. You had free rein to talk there - no oppression or silencing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 03:02 AM
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I loved being "in charge," and incurring all the benefits which come from being the Captain I couldn't see someone who thinks like you being happy in an equal relationship. You're probably better off finding a woman who enjoys being a first mate. RPW is full of them, so they definitely exist. Isn't that the Achille's heel of an "equal relationship?" that two willful people will eventually want different things, and will find compromise difficult? That's what happened to me, anyway. Probably, yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:40 PM
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You could, if you were a man, be raising another man's kid which is much more devestating right? Cheating is one thing but being tricked and lied to about something so important seems to me like it would hurt much more. Yes I agree that a child that isn't yours adds another, devastating layer. But remember, men can go and off and cause a pregnancy elsewhere - with that child being raised without his wife's knowledge. That is incredibly hurtful, too. Both situations are bad, and the feelings of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:20 PM
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Why because they have? They are financially independent of men today. You answered your own question in the thing you said about it being tough to work when "shitting out a kid". Just because most couples are the same level looks wise doesn't mean they are financially. 60% of husbands make more than their wives. Yes, but men make more from the outset in many professions, for no good reason. And then continue to make more than women each year either because they started on a higher salary or beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 11:53 AM
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So... book that is almost 20 years old that cites research that is up to 16 years old. We're going back almost 40 years here with some of this stuff. It's complete rubbish to say that women have gained 'economic independence'. To this day, women still have to stop work to have babies, and their opportunities in their careers are lessened if they have children, if they're able to hold down a career at all. Women still look for security when marrying, because they largely have to. Most couples are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:22 AM
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When 80% of women are spread among 20% of men, this leaves a lot of idle, sexually-frustrated men with lots of energy to expend and they seek other outlets to fulfill it. When are certain groups of men in society going to stop seeing women as prizes that are awarded to the top men or given to men in general to stop men from doing bad stuff? Is that all we women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 02:54 AM
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If women REALLY wanted sex, they'd pay men But... women can easily get sex. That's like saying "If men REALLY wanted porn, they'd pay for it". And, well, with so much free porn out there, most men don't have to pay for it if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:46 PM
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Trp claims that she is just too ugly for Chad to settle for her and too hypergamous to settle for beta Bob herself Chads don't settle until they're old and ugly themselves, and then they use their wealth to secure a woman in an LTR. Men don't want to settle for beta Betty either, if they can get better. She's pretty and 26. She can obviously do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:41 PM
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Pretty sure she put her own thoughts out there on public display. It's not public. I can see the symbol next to her post - it's 'friends only'. If a friend of mine did this, I'd be horrified. No, you didn't out who she is, so that's something at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:38 PM
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I'm not sure you should be putting what is a private post of your friend on public display. But, if I were to analyse, she sounds genuinely confused. It totally goes against what RP claims - that a pretty young woman in her prime will have legions of men at her call and that young women live in some kind of blissful bubble. It doesn't sound like she's sleeping with these tinder guys - and therefore, they have no interest in her. These guys are out looking for the low-hanging fruit, which she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:04 PM
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Sticks, I know, but I have "37yo" in my flair and when you said "once they hit 38" I was trying to be funny by implying that you chose "waking up at 38" to diss me. Oops, sorry, I can't see your flair from messages. Since when did you stick that in there? lol Yes, we're in the same age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:43 PM
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But even assuming all of it will happen RP doesnt bank or even slightly cares about women declining fertility. The mainstream rp idea is clearly about not marrying and not having children. Womens fertility and desire to marry beta bux is irrelevant for rp, they repeat the advice to not go down this path every other post. White fence, couple of kids and a dog is as far from their dream life as it gets. Yes, obviously. Everyone here knows this. But they do say they'll be picking up hot babes that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:41 PM
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I just found it funny that you chose 38, because I am looking forward to seeing if your prediction turns out to be true next year. Guitars, I'm very obviously talking about a time that is 10-15 years into the future - being that the majority of trp'ers are aged from 18-25. A single year from now, nothing much will have changed. I'm in my mid-thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:25 PM
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No one knew about her then. This was the one that was going to get her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:22 PM
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Well raising awareness is not enough for you? You could call it raising awareness but I'd call it continual mud-slinging at feminism without doing much of anything that's actually going to bring about change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:22 PM
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"a train" is 2 men 1 women..... "a threesome" is 2 women one man... Why? It could be 2 women and one man just as easily. But why call it a train at all? Seems silly. maybe 1 women out of twenty would truly want to be the subject of a village gangbang. I'd say that very rarely would a woman want this. Certainly not 1 in 20. In women it's arousing (and probably simultaneously disturbing) whereas in men it's highly agitating and shuts you down, it makes you want to GTFO ASAP. You think women find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:20 PM
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This question has stumped me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:23 AM
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Really? So a guy who's lifting, eating right, and working on his career and "mission" is gonna be left high and dry at 38? He can do all that and still not look all that at age 38. (Unfortunately, most people don't age well, despite keeping healthy.) Anyway, a "well-paying job, lifting, healthy body and good social skills" are not RP theory. They are just general, common good sense. It's the stuff about keeping a soft harem, never marrying, dropping a girlfriend at any sign of "disrespect" and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:47 AM
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Physiology aside for a minute, you're telling me women are more mentally equipped to participate in gangbangs/having a train run on them than they are sharing a high-quality man in a LTR/Marriage (polygamy)? What is this 'train run' nonsense? You were talking about a ratio of 5:4 women to men. That would mean some men might have two women. Not have a train run of women speed through them. But yes, I am saying that two men and a woman make more physical sense than two women and one man. Because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:08 AM
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Some women would end up sharing, yes, but they are uniquely better equipped for this than men. No, men are better equipped for sharing than women. One woman can have more sex than one man is capable of. His equipment is lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 02:00 AM
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The word "cuck" has lost all meaning. Yes it has. Which is why I used it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:14 AM
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Drinks would definitely help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:12 AM
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Haha, are you kidding me right now?! : D Not kidding. I'm talking about the main users of trp, who are 17-25. It's going to be a very different world in 10-15 years time. TRP is guaranteeing them they'll be swimming in money and hot babes by age 35-38.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:10 AM
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The RP solution: "emphatic rejection followed by cynical exploitation." - /u/GayLubeOil. With the knowledge of how society has duped you, fight back and take what you want now that you are equipped to deal with the bullshit. Except, RP is a double dupe. Just like a cult. RP is going to produce a lot of men who arrive at age 38 wondering what the hell happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:07 AM
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Thanks :) But it gives no answers to the issues, so it's not of much value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:59 PM
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the problem is that it becomes boring and they leave. That's a huge problem. People seem to like to fight. Hence, PPD, RP and TBP. (RP and TBP are fighting against BP and RP, respectively)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:54 PM
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Is it because you sense a decline in good men? Not at all. My opinion is that young men these days are a hellavulot better than men of older generations. So it's interesting to me that rp-type men seem to have fallen between the cracks. Is the conversation mildly interesting or does it affect you personally? Mostly, it isn't interesting to me, but I suspect that's because the general age of the rp'ers is so young. Many of them seem to be about 14-18 and when I start getting clued in that the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:50 PM
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I bet if I got most of the women half of those couples alone, speaking frankly, they'd say they neither love nor respect their men. And you'd be wrong. I spent a lot of time in women's discussion forums when my kids were babies, and I know exactly how women speak about their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:16 PM
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they're not taught to be child-rearers, they're taught that child-rearing is oppressive and enslaving to women, and that narrative combined with the "have sex with anyone you want" and freely available contraceptives has led to a plummeting birthrate (which the same turbo-feminist social engineers now seek to "fix" by importing millions of third worlders). I don't agree. Motherhood is still lauded and media/families etc place heavy emphasis on women as mothers. Yes the birthrate has dropped but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:14 PM
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Many people are enjoying life and love the people that they are lucky enough to have in their family or friend circle. Of course. I'm talking about wider issues. Lots of people hate their jobs and wish they could do something else - but they're doomed to spend most of their lives at their jobs. Don't encourage this kind of thinking. This isn't how the world works. What kind of thinking? And how does the world work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:10 PM
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Men and women are as different as it gets inside the same species Again, I don't agree. it's not what I see. The female version of emasculation is defemininization and desexualization aka feminism Nah. The 'feminisation' women had was largely just a role they were forced into. It was never who women were.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:08 PM
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The problem arises when the things you want to do include money or other people. Yes, very much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:35 AM
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I can indeed speak for most people - because most members of couples would insist they love and respect each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:34 AM
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Not all wives have low sex drives! I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying that it's common, due to the reasons stated. Yes, a new man and different situation can certainly recharge her drive - although hormonal contraception still has a large part to play. And, when small kids get older, women often find sex drive returning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:33 AM
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Femininity is the absence of masculinity. I don't agree with this. Men and women are not so different. There’s no female version of ‘emasculate’ and it wouldn’t be an insult if there was one. It's not exactly the same as emasulation, but it's a definite thing that many women feel deeply - yes, at the very core of their being. Female 'emasculation' is the reason feminism began.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:30 AM
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I tried it that way. Didn’t work. Good for you, lad. But for most people, that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:54 AM
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Men love women; women respect men. Love and respect go both ways. If they don't, it's a shitty relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:42 AM
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I forgot to flair it - it's just an open discussion. Definitely, we have agency. It's just that the pressures are strong to play defined roles and beget the next generation of tax payers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:36 AM
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They have a lot in common with the things you listed. But all Muslims don't think/feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:33 AM
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No, it's not necessarily you. RP has a distinct group of people in it who have a distinct set of opinions. And if you look online, the women who are the most vocal about sex will be the most adventurous - having had sex with lots of men, threesomes, bdsm'ers etc. They are also the women that men are most likely to have casual sex/one-night sex with, which may skew men's view of what 'most women' like. Some women do like rough or BDSM sex. But also many don't, or don't want or need that in order …
/r/askMRP05/11/17 08:52 PM
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with you. If she's like me, then it's with anyone. Hard and fast is fine for a change-up, but slow, teasing and practised is the only thing that will get me there. Overwhelming desire, colours-in-my-head, losing-my-mind build-up and orgasms will only come from slow. 'Hair pulled and thrown around' would leave me dead stone cold. The husband I married when I was very young was super dominant and ended up liking rough sex after we got married. I hated it. To me, hard and fast feels like a boy gett…
/r/askMRP05/11/17 08:01 AM
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Just look at the median salary for women vs men. This isn't hard to do if you have any brains. Correlation isn't causation. Pretty women can secure wealthy men, ugly women cannot. It's a statistical fact. Yes, you got me. I didn't go for someone like Harvey Weinstein because I'm butt ugly. Woe is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:40 PM
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My tastes don't change all month long.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:54 AM
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Both of those men have zero attraction to me. Yes, too masculine. I prefer shoulder-length hair over short/shaved/bald. I don't like faces that look too 'rocky' or big jawed. I don't like big muscles or furry body hair. I'm not sure why. Maybe I think we won't have anything in common - like he's way too masculine for us to meet in the middle, and he'll bore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:49 AM
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don't forget artificial uteri. Yep, that's certain to happen at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:40 AM
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The backup is that men have evolved tougher bodies and minds to deal with work that women have not. There is nothing tougher than a woman in childbirth labour or dealing with the death of a baby. If you don't understand natural selection, I encourage you to read more about it. I encourage you to learn a little more about, well, everything, before you attempt to debate in a discussion forum. But the fundamental rule is: those that reproduce define the gene pool and the species. If working women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:40 AM
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It's still a statistical fact. So, show the facts. <You're probably an anomaly because you're ugly. That's a very juvenile statement. You don't belong in discussions forums if you're going to come up with things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 07:31 AM
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Working is not for women, despite the economic pressures. You have no backup for that statement. Women who work more have less children and will be replaced over time by those who chose a family life instead. That's what it means for evolution to catch up. That makes no sense. Robots will never replace all jobs. If that was possible it would have happened by now. That's an incredibly juvenile statement. Lots of things haven't 'happened by now' throughout history because we didn't yet have the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:56 PM
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Your OP sounded halfway sensible until the last third. The vast majority of women have very little idle time, so the question is silly. Evolution doesn't 'catch up'. A percentage of women do the 'harsh work of men', though it's true that men are stronger, taller etc and a far larger percentage of men are suited for this kind of work than women. But this kind of work is increasingly being phased out and replaced by automation - in the future almost all of it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:25 PM
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Because 90% of household income is spent by women. Men actually spend more than women do in total. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/women-vs-men-guess-who-spends-more-2011-11 Kids change things, but that cost is being incurred and spent by both parents, no matter who actually physically pays the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:03 PM
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You wicked, wicked woman. I think I am in lady love with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:00 PM
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Are you really using an anecdote to disprove a general trend? I'm not using an anecdote to disprove a theory. I'm asking a question in the face of the OP's claim. Are you really listening to the actual argument that the OP is putting forward? "No the claim is ALL WOMEN EVERY SINGLE ONE want a guy who they can extract resources from without him questioning it. If a guy shows he is too willing not to give his money to her she will move on. Not some women, BP guy, 100% of them." https://www.reddit.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:51 PM
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TRP is a role play forum. Why would you want to go in there out of costume?? Here's the costume You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:50 AM
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I think 100 redpilled men could fight a million feminists in debate. Yes they could. They couldn't do it well, mind you, but they could give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:37 AM
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Yes I have seen it. I've seen men ride the pussy carousel in their wild younger years and then decide in their early 30s they want a wife and kids, and then want a 'good woman' to marry. Then after a few years, they decide the wife is too boring and they have an affair with a wild woman or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:51 AM
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Why in the name of fuck do you imagine all women want to extract resources from all men? I earn a few times more than my SO. Am I supposed to extract all that he earns anyway? If what you're REALLY saying is "I'm really smart and that must be the reason I don't have a date" .... then just admit you're looking for a way of blaming women. Already, your OP says more about you than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:45 PM
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thoughts? Why not just type "my girlfriend helped me"??? and see how much girlfriends help and support their boyfriends through all kinds of things. https://www.time-to-change.org.uk/blog/true-friends-are-there-mate-going-through-depression I’m Chris. I'm 21. I've lived with depression for most of my life, ever since I was a kid. I still felt so alone and dissociated from my few friends and family that I started to have thoughts of suicide. Eventually, down the line, I made a move to attempt it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:38 PM
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Only as much problem as I'd have with any inaccurate statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:21 PM
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lol Horribly, that I can understand. If they seriously can't get a girl, I guess a robot must look half ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:59 PM
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Why are you so sexist as to assume such a low intellectual capacity of women? Why are you being so silly as to put this forward as an argument? That is the real question. You could say, why do men get married? Rp would say that those beta schlubs have no idea what they're getting into, and need rescuing from such delusions by rp. And those men are 30+ (having been rejected by women in their CC years - as the rp party-line goes). Those men must have an intellectual capacity of 2 if they get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:35 PM
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Yes, a partner's income is more important to women than it is to men - because if women want to have children, they do not have the ability to make what men can make over a lifetime. But, a woman's attraction for a man will still be for looks over status or dominance, and she'll go for the most attractive man who still meets other criteria (personality, character, income etc). Which results in most couples being evenly matched in looks. (Where couples are not evenly matched, they are likely to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:30 PM
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Glad to be of service.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:16 PM
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Childbirth and child-rearing is taxing. Yes it is. But a young girl doesn't know that before she falls pregnant. Beforehand, she, just like a young man, thought she was invincible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:15 PM
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A woman can enjoy being submissive to her SO without it being an act while still having a mind of her own otherwise. She can enjoy it - absolutely - but she's still playing a role. My ex for example was very submissive to me but the complete opposite to anyone else. Because she was playing a role with you. It's not because she was pretending, it was very natural to her when she was around me. It's just I brought that side out of her and she has no reason to submit to anyone else anyway. It's bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:12 PM
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Glad to hear it. Although I'm quite sure there's a market for people who want to read about women who marry their rapist or whatever. Books cater for every taste, no matter how bizarre lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 08:06 PM
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How you gonna look after dem bot babbies when you is at work all day becoming a high valuez male?
/r/TheRedPill02/11/17 12:09 PM
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My favourite comedians are female, but I like male comedians too. I found an old book by Erma Bombeck once. She is a scream!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:04 PM
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Eh, I view most men like I view most women. They're people, nothing more, nothing less. Zero disgust or fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:54 AM
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There's no contradiction here... a woman can be submissive while still having a mind of her own, you're thinking too black and white. She can, but she would be playing a role - and therefore she either identifies as a sub or a first mate. Otherwise, she cannot be submissive because it would go against her nature. You can be submissive without being a conformist, but you didn't read the article, which explained the research and what men preferred. They preferred women who are not submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:47 AM
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I assure you most men like submissive women Fuckkkkk no. I have seen the opposite wayyyy too many times. Men don't like rough, abrasive, overbearing etc women but they do like a woman with a mind of her own. Women who are submissive are often judged to be on the dumb side by men - and men do not usually like dumb women. Generally men who have poor self-esteem like submissive women - to make themselves feel better. And science says so too: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/sara-eckel/women-think-men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:36 AM
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Just saying no won't make it false, everything is gynocentric now, because gynocentrism is trendy, because "we" have to pay for the decades of mistreatment "we" did to women. lol if you were being made to pay for it, your right to vote and own land would be stripped, you'd have to stay at home with the kids and put up with your wife cheating with other men, you'd have no means of divorcing your wife because you'd be left destitute, you wouldn't be allowed to study at the majority of colleges, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:40 AM
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unsuredness, humbleness, submission. These are attractive traits in women lol wut?? Only to people who are into the doms/subs or captain/first mate type of thing. Otherwise, men don't find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:29 AM
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Confidence is masculine. lol wut???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:27 AM
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Women are, effectively, shaming men for their lack of masculinity. No?? People can't help what they are attracted to. If you are male, are you attracted to feminine women or masculine women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:22 AM
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Ohhh lol. I guess it's not as bad as the sex-with-dinosaurs craze that was around for a while ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:21 AM
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We live in a world where women are in control already. No. Everything now is made to make women's life easier at the expanse of men. No. The fact is, there were already shortages of men before and women didn't take over, this is not linked. Immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:19 AM
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raped and disembowled by Pyramid Head What is pyramid head?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:22 AM
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My wife's favorite novel has the protagonist killed during a gang rape and the male protagonist then goes and saves her from the underworld. Eek, was the male protag part of the group that were the rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:22 AM
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You're 100% right. Confidence by itself isn't going to do it. It's part of the way there, but isn't helpful on its own. I'm not masculine. I mean I like sports like most guys, and I'm not a pushover, but I have a small frame and am below average height. I'm nor the aggressive or the 'take-charge' type of man, I'm pretty quiet and laid back. To top all-that, I look 5-7 years younger than my age. You don't need to be aggressive or take-charge. Aggressive can definitely be a huge turn-off. Quiet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:14 AM
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Women appear to be extremely poor selectors of mates. Seems the men are just as poor in their selection, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:56 AM
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What regularly tops studies of attraction in women is.... Status/Dominance. Looks are below that. And height is way below that. Dead wrong. Look at a large number of couples. What you'll see is that couples generally match each other in looks. Therefore, each member of a couple is going for the best looking person of the opposite gender they can get (who also fulfils character criteria). If what you said is true, we wouldn't commonly see this. You'd instead mostly see women with men who don't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:55 AM
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Ok, and in turn, thanks for letting me know I should put you on my ignore list. You're just someone who wants to whine and not actually do anything practical. Feminists took on the conservatives and churches when they funded the entire concept, research and making of the pill in the 50s. Maybe men can make something happen, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:57 AM
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End if what? Bad code, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:53 AM
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We're talking about war, not about the general shittiness of the world. War brings desperate situations - poverty, disease, people having to flee their home. Which means women and children are left vulnerable to rape and having babies without any medical care (the females). Many will die in agony. You're making a claim and not backing it up. The men in charge of the world don't care about men as a group, and now that our only actual bargaining chip (the threat of organized violence) is pretty mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:52 AM
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Yep. He was doomed from birth to be a dickhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 12:43 AM
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Esp if it has a “no dick pics” module. Anthony Weiner needed that module when he was a boy. Actually, even as an old-ass man he needs that module.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:00 PM
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If you say so. Else reconsider. Continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:36 PM
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Uhh you do realize that men are the ones literally getting torn apart and dying right? Yes, of course. You do realise that women and children are literally dying of disease and hunger, right? And women and young girls dying in agony in childbirth without doctors, right? And tortured by rape, right? While many of the men fight endless wars and cannot manage to come to a peaceful agreement, right? No it wouldn't, because most men have no power or influence to say so. Men have all the power to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:29 PM
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nerd 01100001 01101100 01110111 01100001 01111001 01110011
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:21 PM
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I havent seen men bitching about the matriarchy in ancient Rome or middle age England. Because it wasn't. It was a technological change, not a mood one. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:16 PM
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It's funny how you get into a tither about the emotional implications of the language used. That is such a typical male/female disconnect Yes, yes, cheating is just bodies rubbing together. Means nothing. I'm looking at this too emotionally. Men are not like that. If they catch their woman rubbing her body on another man, they don't get into a tither about it. It's nothing. Just body parts. You are right. It's my female disconnect that's to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:15 PM
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There is no pussy carousel. Except for the top 20% of men. That's a myth you keep telling yourself. There are tons of men with no job or a low-paying job who are pretty ordinary in looks, who have a lot of sex. Granted, they will have a lot of friends, go to a lot of parties, and probably take a lot of drugs/alcohol - like the women they have sex with. The men of rp do not generally match that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:12 PM
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Women and children are mostly the ones suffering rape and starvation and disease from today's wars. If men stood up and said no more circumcision, it would stop tomorrow. Women would NOT stand in their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:50 AM
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*#0000ff identifying here. I demand you acknowledge the full spectrum in your statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:29 AM
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I'm not a hillary fan, but she did say that was about wars happening today. A lot of mothers don't want their babies touched, but the fathers insist, telling them it's needed for hygiene etc. Men need to band together and change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:15 AM
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Yep no way do we live in anything close to a matriarchy. The world still has men in most positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:11 AM
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Men fled teaching younger grades a long time before the pedo thing really came to light.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:10 AM
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You don't consider most men to be human in the first place, in all likelihood. That's a red pill/black pill fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 01:14 AM
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Wh-a-a-a-a-t?!? Facebook is full of this. It's super common. And among all ages. I have hundreds of women on my facebook. I see everything from 'book boyfriends' (pics of random male models they think would make good characters from books they've read) to pics of half-naked firefighters and male models.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:25 AM
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Of course men initiate more. But you said women don't. And by the looks of that info, they should - because it says less attractive men message women, and if a woman wants a man more attractive than she is, it's up to her to message him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:22 AM
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lol no. Lots of online initiation by women these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:07 AM
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When I was single, sure thing. My single friends and I would share around pics of hot guys on facebook. It's pretty much the done thing among single women? Married/partnered women do this too - but I consider it disrespectful when you're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:06 AM
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I'm not sure. People can jump into sex quickly, and normally when you have sex, you'll take a shower, and so the no-makeup look could well happen way before love has had a chance to develop. Some women look totally different without makeup - such as Sofia Vergara (although unrecognisable without makeup, luckily, she still looks good without) I do hear about women who are "unlucky in love" with none of their relationships lasting more than a few weeks or months, and you do wonder why they keep ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 12:03 AM
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Ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:56 PM
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Maybe in casual sex the man generally initiates, but I'm saying that I'd hope that the woman wanted it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 11:55 PM
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But if she wears so much makeup and fake hair that she looks entirely different after a shower - and the guy she's dating sees that for the first time and thinks 'ugh' and is turned off - won't that affect her absolute value? Because if guys keep dumping her, she won't have the same hold on the market she would if she looked pretty without makeup. Or, she has SMV but not as much RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:19 PM
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Pictures of men aren't stimulating that's all. It doesn't mean we think you are all ugly. More like neutral. Speak for yourself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:14 PM
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Some people seem to have a very inflated view of themselves. Since we're talking about women specifically, I agree that some women would see the 'primped' version of themselves to be the real version. See what you think of these two women, who consider themselves to be so beautiful that women hate them. To me, honestly, they both look like average women who have done the best they can with themselves with hair and makeup (a ton of makeup with the second lady). I think both are attractive but don…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:11 PM
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explicit, verbal "yes I agree that getting a verbal yes is awkward. I think colleges are swamped and are trying to work out the best way of determining he said/she said. I think that in practice, the 'verbal yes' thing is not going to work. they're about criminalizing the person that wants sex Hopefully, both the man and woman wanted sex, not just the man? It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the burden of this law will fall disproportionately upon men It doesn't take a genius to figure o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:04 PM
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I guess there's some naive hope in me that men, being men, give the slightest bit more of a shit about men than women do. Trust me, they do. And in the past, when they thought they knew what was 'best for women' - they didn't. At least now we have a bit of open conversation on both sides. But when one side controls the conversation, bad things happen. We're experiencing it now, or are at the very least certainly transitioning towards that world. Women may not have direct control, but the ones wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:47 PM
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MORE negative than rp???!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:33 PM
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They could call themselves 'traditional conservatives' or something. RP is associated with muck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:26 PM
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And it is absolutely okay to have theirs hurt because hey, they're men! Making them uncomfortable or not caring about them is what society is all about. No, it is not okay. But men still have no idea what the 'female gaze' would look like in full swing. Because women don't control the TV & film, don't control advertising, are afraid of being seen as sluts if they stare, don't control business and politics etc. If women did control all those things, men would swiftly see the female gaze in action…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:24 PM
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On the one hand, no - women will favor women every time. Not every time, and not always intentionally, but yes, women are biased because they've haven't had the experience of being male. Men don't like living in a world that women control They've never had the experience of it. Men don't create the species, ergo we'll never be as valuable as women, ergo the only way to begin correcting this inequity is to... have fewer men. Men create half of the DNA for the species. If we cut men down to a thir…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:18 PM
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I think its just a way for them to filter out feminist men, in that sense it works well for what they want. They want naturals and they want feminist men to stay as far away from them as possible But they don't need the red pill to filter out anything. They can decide their own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:11 PM
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She'd just bang you and toss you aside, and promote another woman instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 06:01 PM
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Can you imagine if PPD was a real life bar?? lol It'd be all fun and games until Lewis Cross turned up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 06:00 PM
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Without facts and evidence in the OP, it's hard to have an opinion on it. esp. since I'm not American and am not familiar with your college system. I will say though that the proposed solution is ludicrous. Tons of men chuck in their degrees to do something completely different in the years after graduating. And if women or men end up as stay at home parents, are their degrees not useful in imparting wisdom to their kids, making a more intelligent nation? A better solution would be to examine ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:58 PM
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Yes, I found it all so weird when I first came here. Many months later... it's still weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:43 PM
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Yeah, dude. Anonymous guys talking to anonymous guys about anonymous girls. We're convinced!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:40 PM
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They say it, but they ignore the fact that in the twenty years immediately following WW2, adults were just glad to be living in a world without war but women were still anxious and unhappy with their wifely roles - if the enormous sales of anti-depressants are taken into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:39 PM
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back to being a decent human being Is the opposite of what mrp promotes. They promote cheating, training wives like animals, disciplining wives like children and all kinds of things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:32 PM
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Ha! It's just weird as shit that any woman wants to be associated with the red pill. RPW could call themselves something else and still have the same goals, and wouldn't be tarnished by the rp association.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:28 PM
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We need a society with 66% women and 33% men :D Careful what you wish for. Women would take over everything - politics, business etc. As a man, would you want to live in a world that women controlled? Women decided that they didn't like living in a world that men controlled - hence the suffragettes/feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:15 PM
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I read an article the other day about a very overweight woman who lost a lot of weight - and then was surprised to find that the attention from men (catcalls in the street and requests for dates etc) dramatically decreased. Her new slimmer self was finding it hard to even get a date. When she mentioned this to a male friend, the friend told her something that shocked her - that men think fat girls are are an easy target for sex. In any case, being that fat is just extra padding around a human be…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:09 PM
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Lewis? Who's talking about him? But the idea of Chad is absolutely wrapped up with the idea of genetic good looks and body.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:49 PM
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Well said. (And if that was the kind of advice trp imparted in general, they would be A-ok. Shame it's not.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:42 PM
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That's you maybe. But c'mon, there is an overload of Chad mention from red pillers. The specific mention of Chad had lessened over time - I think because they can see how funny blue pill thinks it is, but it's still a thing, whatever you call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:10 PM
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Facially disfigured individuals would also qualify as assault upon my psyche for causing involuntary mild disgust and pity! Make it stop! Put a bag on his head! Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:54 PM
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Physical strength, yes, definitely. But I was talking about abuse of positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:53 PM
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Have heard a lot of terps saying they want women go back to being 1950s housewives. But for the ones who believe that men and women are equal as human beings, then they believe in the core principle of feminism, but reject some of its other theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:52 PM
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No, red pill, where they can't stop talking about the Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:49 PM
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It's hard to imagine. A world without masculine energy would be boring, as would a world without feminine energy. Though I guess you wouldn't know that if you had nothing to compare it to. We would have developed very similar technology and innovations but mostly at a much slower pace. Because if women are tied up having babies, they are naturally going to be severely restricted. It would be entirely stupid to imagine that women wouldn't have developed high tech. Some parts of it would have move…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:46 AM
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Do I assume you don't have a girlfriend or wife? I understand what you're saying to a degree. Men drove me crazy when I wasn't with someone. I know it's not the same thing, because I could get an attractive guy pretty easily. But when I was having a break to get past a shitty relationship, I found it hard to stop thinking about... men. I normally have a high sex drive, but when I don't have sex for more than a week, my sex drive goes into overdrive. When it's been months, I'm practically salivat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:22 AM
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Sadly, we give the feminists more credibility because the male gaze hurts their fee fees and we dare not make women emotionally uncomfortable. I see a hella lot hurt fees fees in rp over the female gaze at Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:00 AM
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Can't drag a post from idiot week into this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:57 AM
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Women gotta do what women gotta do. Just can't stop those cock-sucking, non-1950s, non-men's-standards-caring hussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:45 AM
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You can understand why preening men who are showing off their bodies are disgusted by preening women who are showing off their bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:40 AM
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Yes but that's how a lot of human societies operated in the past, and how a couple of them still operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:04 AM
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Well, I know men who have been in situations where a group sex was happening, in terms of a drunk consensual female and a few guys - but they checked that the woman was okay with it, and then walked away. And, also, I know a couple of guys who got the woman out of there, when she was too drunk to consent. As I said, decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:03 AM
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No one cares about single men not being able to have as much sex as they want. Because sex out of a relationship creates nothing, does nothing - except for creating single mothers (which face enormous difficulties). No one cares about men wanting 1950s wives. Because they just don't. People would care if single men were saying they want to find someone to love and cherish. Women would care especially. Society cares. Because committed relationships often result in children, and we need children. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:56 AM
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The strongest of the men could if they engineered their tribe that way. They would get access to the 'best' women, aka rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:40 AM
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Wits or GTFO. No argument, no correspondence can be entered into.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:37 AM
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Why do the African bush men live so peacefully alongside the women of their tribe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:35 AM
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Bless you and go in peace. Try to turn your head should a sexy woman pass your path, so that sin does not enter your mind nor your eyes be ruthlessly assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:32 AM
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Indeed. Some women. Doesn't do it for me at all. Shirtless men who are working or just walking around (no preening) do it for me. My partner most of all - he assaults me on a daily basis with that shit. In fact, I feel triggered right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:28 AM
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Come back when you have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:26 AM
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Then what is it? 51% of male college students said the same thing. If you think it's natural, then it's ingrained in the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:25 AM
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If sex was consentual, how were they risking all that? Abuse of power and position. Two male police officers inside a police van could well be terrifying to a teenager, especially a handcuffed teenager. They could claim she carried out a number of crimes or even harm her and claim they found her in that condition. But... it's highly unlikely she agreed to it. Who would want to suck two pig's sweaty, smelly dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:23 AM
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Pigs, in other words. They're letting too many pigs into the police force.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:17 AM
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But a lot of men would do this if they thought they would be without repercussions Sooo... we are living in a rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:15 AM
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Not easy at all if the person is decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:14 AM
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Is it masculine though? Women abuse power, too. Female managers have been known to sexually harass male staff - due to some sense of power I'm guessing? I know men do it more often, but men are more often in positions of power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 03:06 AM
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Slut shaming is very much alive. And fear of being seen as a slut is still very much a thing. Young girls sometimes commit suicide over their perceived shame after a rape or after intimate photos of them are uploaded online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:39 AM
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male gaze, objectification and tit size Those things sure are riling up the good pastor. I think his brain might go on boil if he sees those video game chicks. It's not just men like him, it's also all those shirtless facebook and twitter preeners whining that women shouldn't be displaying their bodies for anyone but their boyfriends/husbands. Do they even lift? Well, yes, yes they do. Those guys post endless streams of their shirtless gym bunny selves, carelessly assaulting women's eyes and min…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:33 AM
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Do you make up facts as you type? Do you comprehend as you read? I said there are less men than women around after age 50 - this difference is slight but increases with each year. More men than women will die of things such as heart attacks, leaving less men around. Science, come back me up. Thanks again, science. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:16 AM
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She can identify with what she likes. Her choice and I respect that. But - she's still a feminist if she believes in what I said above. If she didn't eat animals, she'd be a vegetarian, even if she didn't identify as one. Feminism might not be the best way to promote gender equality these days, as it's dragged down by certain radicals and over-sensitive numbnuts. But women don't have anything else right now, and whatever name it's called by, some men will still hate women having the same opportu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:00 PM
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Agree with your post, except for men being more attractive than women after age 50. I mean, have you seen 'em? I think the effect is simply caused by there being less men around after age 50, so there's more competition for them. More men will die of heart attacks etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:49 PM
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However the point is that women who are about 40-50 would be dating men who are 40-65. Women aged 40 would mostly prefer to date between 35-45 year old men. Women aged 50 would mostly prefer to date between 45-55 year old men. Source: my single aunts and older women where I used to work, at a large company.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:45 PM
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a womans peak attractiveness was probably before 30. It is. And so is men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:41 PM
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Maybe women -- given the relatively more egalitarian and gender-equal society we now live in -- would drop the ridiculous pretense of never approaching. I agree - because many of the best men are not confident even to approach women, so it's a benefit to both women and men. One issue is that a women worries that a man won't like her if she seems too 'forward' and also worries he'll think she's 'easy'. Those are old-fashioned terms, but the stigma is strong. Women don't want to be seen as 'sluts'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:42 AM
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But we'll be on the receiving end of the social instability that comes along with that. Why the fuck are women always responsible for keeping men 'stable'? Are we their mothers? Women tired of being used as pawns throughout history. We're not gifts and rewards for men. Oh, and "incel types who went down this route" of being nice to women were never nice if rejection made them toxic. Women get rejected too by men you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:36 AM
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That means that most men have nothing at all to offer women, since women never have and never will be sexually attracted to the vast majority of the male population. Most women want a one-on-one relationship with a man, and most women want children. Therefore, most men will end up matched with a woman/women, for all or at least for part of his adult life. Most couples are pretty well-matched in looks. Most men will find a partner in life (the ones who want a partner, that is).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 11:28 AM
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My understanding is that for people who are suffering emotional distress, it helps to know that others care about their plight. Would you be likely to care about people who are calling you inferior and had all kinds of derogatory names and theories about you? (speaking about rp here of course, where women are whores and men are cucks - unless they do what red pill thinks men and women should do)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 10:59 AM
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There is no "feminist fold". Cassie is a feminist if she believes that women are people and believes in equality for both men and women. She's not an "anti-feminist" if she makes a propaganda red pill film.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 06:28 AM
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Rape is not the physical act of sex? He might wish to dominate and control and humiliate, but he can do these things to a man if he so wishes. No, rapists generally target women because they wish to specifically hurt women. And as I said, pump and dumpers do not see sex as love with the women they P&D.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:10 AM
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Respond to this thought experiment: would this man have walked free if instead of grabbing her breasts he stabbed her with a knife? It has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 02:45 AM
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!! No. Your links say 1000 people were killed by BH. These people included a number of women. So if we're looking for many thousands of males who were victims of BH, I'm going to think that must be the 10,000 males kidnapped to become soldiers. You also said "females are always spared" by BH, but that is untrue. I'd rather not argue this further - horrifying what happened to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 02:43 AM
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No, good comprehension would tell you that I think death is death, no matter who suffers it. One kind of death is not better than another kind of death, when at the hands of BH.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:48 PM
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For the users like /u/IckyStickyPoo who seem to claim that women being raped is worse than men being killed & kidnapped in larger numbers Terrible comprehension, man. In no way, shape or form did I say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:36 PM
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Your link says 1000 people were killed. Those people included women. Am going to stop it here. Pretty awful to be debating these points when so many people lost their lives/were raped/starved. Doubtless, many of the boys who were kidnapped and forced into BH died fighting, used as human shields, raped and starved. Just as many of the girls who were taken into sex slavery/slavery suffered a similar fate - though not as many might have died. Look, you're debating someone who is as biased and human…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:34 PM
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My EXACT point. The OP says the thousands were murdered. I am saying they were captured to become soldiers. (Not that many boys and men, along with many girls and women, weren't tortured and killed - more males than females being killed.) Thanks for the link! (And next time, use better comprehension)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:39 PM
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Your short-term memory must be in really bad shape. Obviously, that was in response to you saying this "worst one might say that it is a partisan piece of journalism that attempts to cast one group in a favorable light at the expense of another through biased questioning and editing" You see, the problem is that feminists seem to operate under the assumption that gender issues are a zero sum game, that any attention for male issues which aren't framed in a way to make the problem about women fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:37 PM
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But rape is sex. It remains the act of sex. There are other ways a rapist could choose to harm a woman but he chooses sex. And men who pump and dump are not seeing the sex as love. They just want an orgasm. (nothing wrong with wanting orgasm by the way)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:31 PM
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In media, your next meal is based on whether or not you have people's attention. Correct. But you can't call it a documentary if it isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:25 PM
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Thanks for your "question". For one, she could have asked Elam about his daughter and others, who point out that in the 10 years he's been running A Voice fr Men, he has barely done any activism for men, all the time bitching about women doing nothing for you, while sponging off his daughter and girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:23 PM
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Also, the evidence in the breast grabbing case relies entirely on her word against his. She was bruised. It was not just 'grabbing breasts' - it was squeezing hard enough to cause bruising, which is extreme pressure, after she was crying and begging him to stop. Breasts hurt severely if squeezed hard enough. The article about the stabbing student does contain that info -- the judge didn't want to damage her promising career. In the case of Brock Turner, the judge was worried about the impact on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 07:48 PM
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I think it's funny - you guys are constantly complaining about how the MRAs are practically nazis; we even have a nice quote in this very thread where you - personal you - say ad verbatim that it's "not harmless" if MRAs aren't depicted as literally Hitler. Now I give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't exactly mean it like that, but the mere fact that it doesn't even seem to register to you how far beyond any reason such a ridiculous statement is really tells us a lot about you. What th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:29 PM
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So... link the articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:19 PM
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Ok, so then bigotry against gay people is ok then? What the hell? What does racism have to do with gays? You are all over the place. Oh, you so if I define blue pillars as ignorant morons for which I don't know anything about their skin color that's ok, because I can see their views that are readily posted? You can do so for the blue pill forum if you wish, it's a contained arena in which you can readily see what's being posted. Although, there are no sidebar theories they all subscribe to. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:19 PM
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I'm not in favour of banning movies. And yes I know some feminists wanted it banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:16 PM
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How do you know that she doesnt make an attempt if you have seen little of it? From what I've seen and read. It was not like Atlas made the documentary ;) That I would watch. For the lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:15 PM
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doubt it I doubt that anyone who has a low sex drive understands how important sex is to someone with a high sex drive. An ex partner rarely wanted sex - and I doubt he understood what that was doing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:13 PM
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That's super weird. Are you certain you're not a duo-personality with smoogs?? And can we be certain??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:10 PM
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Life is fucking shit without intimacy with others. It is truly agonizing. Agreed. Makes since that a woman would never understand because people are waiting at their every step to make them comfortable. Tell that to every woman who's only been used by men and never loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:05 PM
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women's issues Were not "women's issues". They were human rights issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:03 PM
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Why in the world would men care about the plight of women trying to get jobs/education ? Fucking hell, seriously? That says woeful things about red pill men. It's saying "We don't care about your rights as human beings if we can't fuck you."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:02 PM
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Holy shit, just stop telling men that "looks don't matter" Women don't say this. Some men want to believe it. Many PUA spokesmen base their income on it. But women don't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:58 PM
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If that's RP, all the blues here can wrap it up and go home. Nothing to debate. Thing is, you don't need the red pill to be the things you listed. (And you left out the mutual wanking over the hate and fear of women, which is the most important ingredient, bar none, in rp.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:52 PM
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Which most don't, so... Eh, it's common in my country. It will happen in yours too. Only a matter of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:49 PM
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Men do not get turned on by your degree. Marriage stats of college students disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:48 PM
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They generally make an attempt. They certainly don't just let the interviewees talk on and on without asking any hard questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:47 PM
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You said I was awesome, and yep, guilty as charged. I'm glad you were serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:45 PM
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Then it's not a documentary. It's propaganda. And propaganda isn't worth watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:44 PM
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That's not the credible source I asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:41 PM
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for an adult male lack of sexual touch IS lack of love Nah. If men saw sex as love, they would never rape. Men see sex as part of romantic love, as do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:33 PM
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If I made a docu about child molesters and placed them in the best light possible and ignored all the bad stuff and didn't ask any hard questions... I'd say you might be onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:27 PM
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Damn, that sounds oddly familiar... You literally said, "BH had slaughtered thousands of males before while always sparing the females." How can I not point out that that statement is wrong? It's not "sparing" to leave women and children in the woods with no food or to take girls into sex slavery or to use girls as human barriers during gunfire. And I cannot find the thousands of males who were slaughtered, nor have you provided links.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:23 PM
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Something you would never have done had she made a documentary that was more to your liking, so stop pissing in my pockets and tell me it's raining. You don't know me. I can't stand journalists who aren't real journalists and documentary makers who don't present the full picture. You're awesome. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:19 PM
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I am betting dollars to donuts the answer will be something about them abducting these girls And I'm betting you'd be right. Women's interest groups wanted to get the girls back from sex slavery and they made a lot of noise. Not a bad aim. And they couldn't bring back the slain boys. How about I now make a bet on how much men's interest groups did for all the boys taken to be soldiers? Did they care and what did they do? OR, instead, did what really rile them happen to be the fact that the stole…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:13 PM
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Attempts at character assassination, how unexpected. Nope, just pointing out the background from which she came. It's relevant. I didn't assassinate - I stated I wasn't saying it as a certainty. I have no issue with actors from low-budget horror films. But if they swap from that to making documentaries, I'm watching carefully to see what their real intent is. You get a bunch of guys telling stories about how bad men have it, the MRAs aren't depicted as literally being Hitler but actually get a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 01:07 PM
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Watch the documentary (or just this particular scene, there are a whole bunch of headlines about this. "Boko Haram killed xy people". "Boko Haram did this and that, yz dead". "xz victims in Boko Haram attack" (by the way, it's the neutral term as a rule, and usually only hidden somewhere in the article that out of a three digit number of people, only one was a woman who got caught up in it). No, dude. I want links to credible sources about the thousands of males killed by Boko Haram. And not kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:58 PM
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In regard to Cassie Jaye herself, there's a possibility that she simply wants attention - after her career as a failed actress (low budget horror films, wearing very little). I'm not saying that's the case, but to me it seems there's a possibility. Because the men's rights film seems to be made for attention rather than to make an unbiased doco. And you can bet your ass she wouldn't have gotten all that footage if she'd acted in a manner befitting a documentary, because men's rights would have w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:55 PM
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What I wasn't really aware of (and I think this goes for most people) was that BH had slaughtered thousands of males before while always sparing the females, yet this wasn't worth any outrage or just some indignation, but merely got shrugged off in a few headlines - basically, the complete "disposable male"-dynamic in full swing. Do you have links for this? As far as I know, around 50 schoolboys were slaughtered. The 'thousands of boys' were taken to be soldiers. And the boys that were slaughter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:39 PM
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So racism doesn't exist then? Racism is views against a whole race of people. I am speaking about a contained online group in which I do not know the colour of skin or background, but in which I can readily see the views that are posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:58 AM
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Hey GoldPilot, you're doing a great job arguing against shooting women That's a bit of a losing game in here. The more you argue, the firmer in their views they grow. There's a name for it that's known in psychology but I can't remember it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:53 AM
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EDIT: Why don't I ever get a tag in when I'm getting dogpiled in these contemptible back-and-forths? Fdreal got a tag in. Would a Blue Piller back me up for once? I think it's because the blue pillers in PPD are made of pretty strong stuff (they have to be to listen to the crud that is posted here) and if they see a debate happening, they just see it as business as usual - no need for backup. Backup is the red pill way, which is why they are all in rp - looking for support and backup for their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:22 AM
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Point is many women choose to stay to be repeatedly assaulted. Point is that women stay for different reasons: they think it's "just the alcohol or drugs" making him do it, and it's not really "him". The woman's empathy gets the best of her. they think they are being "strong" by staying - they think if they endure the bad parts of their marriage, he'll change and the marriage will be solid again. they have kids and think the kids need their dad and a father figure in their lives. They don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:17 AM
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Women are only domestically abused in order to avoid being alone. What do you mean by that? Hope you don't mean that women stay in an abusive relationship to avoid being alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:10 AM
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Hardly fake. Easily proven. And is a fair comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:02 AM
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You're looking for something to be triggered by at this point. She had bruises on her breasts - which is evidence, as is stabs marks on a leg. There is NO blatant double standard between two unrelated cases. I could say that this man walking free after sexually assaulting his tinder date is a result of men getting off way too lightly after such assaults - which is actually what I think: https://www.chinchillanews.com.au/news/man-who-assaulted-tinder-date-walks-free/3189330/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 12:00 AM
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"Personal" to who? A personal insult must be directed at an individual. That isn't an insult. It's an observation of an overall group and what is posted there and tolerated - no well-adjusted person would be associated with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:07 PM
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Jesus. Women generally like cuddles. One of the best things about being in a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:50 AM
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Yep!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:51 PM
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Evolution doesn't go "forward". Evolution just happens. Yep! Otherwise, chimps would be evolving to become more human-like instead of being perfectly adapted to their environment the way they are. They are patriarchial as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:49 PM
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A well adjusted rep-pill aware male Does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:47 PM
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He grabbed her boobs so hard she was bruised and crying and repeatedly asking him to stop. Would he have liked her to grab his balls so hard that he was crying and refuse to let go? It's assault. She consented to sex, not to be assaulted and hurt. The case of the female medical student I think is pretty wrong. She assaulted and stabbed him. Yes she was affected by cocaine and alcohol but she still seems dangerous. Mind you, the case of the girl does not prove that girls get off lightly, as there…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:44 PM
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But really, if you seriously think women are 100% fine with a guy showing his emotions, you're in denial I indeed don't. Some women, like men, are complete wimps and are always looking for a rock. I meant in the sense of showing vulnerability. In that case, that's not showing emotions "too much". Depending on how far you take it. If you're all 'woe is me' all the time, yeah, that's too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:33 PM
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I'm not sure if you're aware, but women are rather turned off by a guy who shows his emotions too much. I'm not sure if you're aware, but I'm a woman, and am not turned off by a guy who shows his emotions. People who show their emotions "too much" - whether male or female, are unlikely to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:06 PM
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You know somebody got convicted of sexual assault because he grabbed her boobs while penetrating her consensually? link?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:04 PM
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If female circumcision just involved removing the clitoral hood as opposed to the entire clitoris, then people definitely wouldn't care as much. I know I wouldn't. That would be terrible. Way too many nerves go to the clitoris to remove the hood. The penis is not like that. You could compare to circumcision by removal of most of the labia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:24 AM
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Selective Service They are signing up for the armed services get their genitals mutilated at birth A lot of mothers don't want this but the fathers do. I don't see you going after the fathers. or to work all the shitty horrible jobs that are primarily staffed by men I don't see men lining up to care for aged and dementia patients - cleaning up shit and piss and bed sores all day long. I don't see men lining up to be nurses - who strain their backs all day and deal with blood, vomit, shit, urine,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:18 AM
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matriarchal society Who wants this? Most feminists wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:11 AM
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I'm just exhausted with society not letting men be men. Try being exhausted by thousands of years of society not allowing women to be women. Women barely know who they are. At least you men have a history in which many of you were allowed to be all you could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:08 AM
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Do you see how I could be accused of rape by the hysteric SJW's in that case? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:50 AM
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Shit, he needs to at least buy me a couple of slap-up dinners before he knocks me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:22 AM
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Well.... Force the women out of veternary science and psychology and the men will fill the gap. If it's good enough for the Goose, it's good enough for the Gander. Women ARE expressing concern in the psychology field. It's mostly men that are the leaders/on the faculty boards of these professions, by a long shot (psych and vet). They can help bring about change. You can prove that can you ? I think you'll find that (say) Psychologists are better paid, and have more prestige than (say) computer p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:21 AM
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lol that's one expensive bribe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:24 AM
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Women are better off not going for a guy who flashes money and gifts at her. Because that is an indicator he likes to buy women with money. And if he bought you with money, then he's more likely to see you as an object that needs to provide value for the money he invested. In the future, he might coldly decide you are not providing as much value as he'd like, and he'll dump/divorce you for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:22 AM
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Very much so. They often seem very insulted when you insist and even think it means you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 02:08 AM
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Veterinarians and Psychologists are about 80:20 women. Programmers and Mathematicians are about 80:20 men. So when feminism sets about “unskewing the programming/Mathematics jobs”, and are successful in that endeavour, this skews the whole jobs market in favour of women.... Because feminists DO NOT attempt to undoes the vets and shrinks. Feminists want to, but the thing is that the 'want' has got to come from men. The biggest reason that men left psychology and teaching is stagnant wages and los…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:53 PM
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Oh yeah, to top it off, lots of feminists would consider me a "woman hater" for even saying all of this. When I am the most pro-woman you can be. I am pro-choice, pro-PlannedParenthood, and pro-WomenInSTEMFields. None of what you said sounds like hatred of women. It does all sound based on very personal experience though. Socially awkward/not very attractive men are not called creeps by feminists. Men who make sexual suggestions or touch are commonly called creeps - and although the red pill den…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:28 PM
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Do you think you could attract new men, on a consistent basis for casual sex with no makeup or nice clothes? Yes? For sex or LTRs. I look fine without makeup. At least, I hope so! My SO met me without me wearing any makeup and men still look at me all the time when I'm not wearing makeup and haven't bothered wearing anything special. I don't think all men are that much into the makeup/false eyelashes and tight clothes look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 05:54 AM
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Pity parties as as weak as peanut galleries clucking endlessly about them. #PPDcritique Pity party men cause a lot of harm to women and children, and to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 04:06 AM
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Well that’s fair, but I mean who am I to tell you how to judge it. I know what you're saying. I'd say that non-reds can judge the rp theories but they can't judge the effectiveness because the users of rp are anonymous and the users themselves admit that the field reports are often wildly exaggerated. We also don't know how often sugar babies are being called 'plates'. So, there is no real way of judging the effectiveness of rp. We CAN judge the effectiveness of general things that are common to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 03:49 AM
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Doubting your expertise Your comprehension is lacking. I never claimed expertise of any kind. I only claimed to have read the rp sources that I said I have. That I have read them is what was disbelieved. My conclusions are my conclusions, whatever they may be. Now, if I said I didn't believe you had buttsex with squirrels when you said that you did, I would be questioning your personal honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 02:50 AM
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Bro, I lift my fingers every darn day to type out longass theories and posts on the internetz. That's how I know I'm alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:25 AM
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Well physics is the truth, but /r/physics has only 197,611 subscribers and /r/theredpill has 231,436. Appeal to popularity denied! Well, if we're going by numbers, lemme throw this one out there ;) : The 'Bad Girls Advice' facebook group had 200,000 members before facebook shut it down. And they were mostly Australian women. https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/bad-girls-advice-female-only-group-200000-members/3171130/ They are very fringe and certainly don't share the views of the majority of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:17 AM
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That is indeed a personal attack. If you don't believe I've read those things, obviously you've seen me say it. Which I have and which I've said I have. Actually, I mentioned many non-reds reading the rp sidebar, blogs, theories etc just minutes before your post about not believing that I've read this stuff. But... attack away. Means zero to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 12:05 AM
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You have to judge before you can debate. Judge is not the best word as hopefully most of us can be open-minded. But if we take the word at face value, then yes, we need to judge a topic before we can debate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:59 PM
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Ok but my point is more towards the fact that I have no idea what OP is trying to get out of judging TRP so I cant recommend what she should judge it by But that's part of why non-red are here at PPD. What are we here for if not to judge RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:29 PM
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I don't believe you can accurately restate one RP concept or have read one piece of the side bar, rollo, roosh, heartiste, anything I have read all of that. You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it. And, stop with the ad hominems, ok? It's pretty low to say I haven't read what I say I've read. I don't attack you on personal grounds and make up things about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:26 PM
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But to really understand the drive that men face to validate themselves through sex? I don't know if women can truly appreciate that. Some, maybe, but not overall. No, I'd say in general we don't understand it. But if that was all trp was about, there wouldn't be such opposition to it. If there was a "real" red pill women group, in which women are trying to grub as much as they can out of men while at the same time talking about them as though they are shit and making up weirdass theories about …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:22 PM
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Everyone judges everything. It just means to form an opinion after looking at the facts. Most people who judge will form an opinion based on very loose or secondhand facts. Here in PPD at least, we have read RP's sidebar, seen their theories, thought leader blogs and posts countless times firsthand etc If someone wants to judge the men in rp as being "losers" without knowing their personal histories, then yeah, it's negative. But if someone has looked at rp's theories and judged those theories a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:13 PM
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nonexistent In your opinion tone based No. It's based on the posts of most terpers. Which are whiny and express underlying hatred of women. When terps make attempts to translate their stuff into something approaching "PC speak" it gets watered down so far and changed so much that it doesn't even share a meeting place with the original. Not that they need to translate their stuff into PC. It just highlights their theories and teachings for what they are when they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 11:03 PM
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He said he loves her. And he was very confused. That's not red. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:13 PM
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lol thats just acting like a guy. TRP teaches men to just act like guys Nope, it teaches them to act like whiny children who hate women and who have to pretend not to feel emotions in front of women. It's weird on top of weird on top of weird. That's trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:11 PM
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... mustard isn't very hot? Depends on how you prepare it. https://www.thespruce.com/what-makes-mustard-hot-1807025
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 09:04 PM
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Life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:15 PM
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I mean it's a fact: women could all stop using makeup and dress up in potato sacks tommorow and men would still want to fuck, and by extension, LTR them. True. I rarely wear makeup and my partner likes the way I look when I first wake up. He doesn't care what I wear. If I'm often in paint-splattered baggy overalls, (when we've been reno'ing for months on end) he still wants sex with me. Also, I wouldn't care if he never brushed his hair and never wore nice clothes. He'd still be hot as mustard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:10 PM
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Only after we had a successful race (built on the backs of men) did women come in and try to take over. It was also built on the backs of women - more so than men, because they had to work plus undergo pregnancy and raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:23 PM
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If me lifting weights, dressing well, learning how to communicate my intent effectively and talking to women is manipulation in your head then you should seek therapy. That kind of advice is abundant. That's not the crux of the red pill. The crux of the red pill is mutual hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:18 PM
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You stigmatize mental illness for no good reason. Psychopathy is not currently considered a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:17 PM
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This post is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 09:53 PM
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Going through life like that, you eventually figure out that the reason people aren't gravitating to you is because you're boring and if you want to have a more magnetic personality, well.... you have to be kind of an "asshole!" Not an asshole like an actual malicious person who goes out of his way to harm others, but an "asshole" who isn't afraid to create a little social dissonance by teasing others and who isn't just a carbon copy of some "nice human" specimen. That's fair enough. But you gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 09:48 PM
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Trump brags privately to a friend about how women are so enamoured with him they let him get away with anything. Why would you take this as a literal admission of assault? Are you serious. He did grab a woman on the crotch - decades ago, and she went to the police to report it. I don't think anything much happened, so yeah, he got away with it. He probably did it other times and got away with it, too. I mean, he wouldn't have done it just once.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:19 AM
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I don't think anyone should 'automatically be believed' when they report a crime. Due process is what we have to discover what happened - even though it often doesn't work and rapists go free. Yes, give comfort and support to someone who says they are a victim, but there can't be automatic belief on the part of all involved parties. It should be common knowledge that you do not speak to the police without a lawyer. Kids should know and be told this. Police can twist things and get a 'confession'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:11 AM
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I don't see how this "doesn't have meaning", and I don't see how this relies on it being OK for men to wear women's clothing. Because you're not comparing like with like. That's why. Which makes it not a very good explanation for women getting gender role leniency in the past ~50 years. "Gender role leniency"! Jesus. What it actually was, was men having "no choice in the matter" because too many women wanted emancipation. Not all men, of course, wanted to keep women down. But enough did. And tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 12:48 AM
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I never said it was considered OK for men to dress as women. I said that it was also extremely controversial for women to wear men's clothing. Yep I know you didn't say that. What I said was that what you said didn't have meaning, because there was never a time in which it was considered ok for men to wear women's clothing. If you think we currently see femininity as inferior, I assume you don't think it was something that only happened relatively recently. I said "femininity has been seen as in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 08:42 PM
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Those answers are among the few very intelligent OPs I've ever seen in PPD. Thanks for posting and reminding me of why I believe in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:03 AM
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In addition, 100 years ago it was extremely controversial for women to wear men's clothing. If the reason that (now) women can wear men's clothing while men can't wear women's clothing is that femininity is seen as inferior, then we have to say that femininity only started to be seen as inferior in the past 100 years. ??? It's never been ok for men to dress as women. Because femininity has been seen as inferior for thousands of years. What you say would have meaning if this wasn't the case. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 06:55 AM
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I don't think most dads give good, if any advice to their boys about women. Just like I don't think most mothers give good, if any, advice about boys. I would just build up his self-esteem during his growing years - lots of sport and activities that he likes and in which there are other boys and men. Also, activities in which there are girls - because the more isolated boys are from girls, the more weirdass ideas they get about them. And give him the best opportunities in doing well in life. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 10:14 PM
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The reds say a woman's past should count. The blues say it's your personal preference for a man or woman's past to count or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 03:54 AM
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What if the women are statistical outliers as well and want sex 3 times a day each? You would be doing nothing else but bringing them all to orgasm all day long, and quickly at the point where you are not enjoying it and are not even having sex yourself - you'd just be giving them all oral. Hope you have a strong tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 03:52 AM
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This isn't anything about the general RMP/SMP. It's about an individual (me) and my own personal views. So, yeah sure dude. Feel how you want about the women you date. Every person has to make up their own mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 01:02 AM
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