Sexualizing Women

Littleknownfacts · 2018-01-11T19:21:21+00:00

Well I think context matters. When women say they don't want to be sexualized, they usually mean they don't always want to be sexualized. They don't want to worry about being sexualized when they are not doing sexy things, like riding the bus or doing laundry. Clearly in the bikini crotch shot she is sexualizing herself, that's when women want to be sexualized. If you know how to read a room, it's not that hard.

LSTW1234 · 2018-01-11T19:42:24+00:00

Women want to be sexy but they don’t want sexiness to be considered their only source of value and they don’t want to be sexualized all the damn time. Which in theory should not be that hard to grasp.

As you grow up you realize you can’t control the terms. Ariel Winter is super young, eventually she will realize it.

Electra_Cute · 2018-01-11T19:13:31+00:00

It is just virtue signalling.

Maikowski2 · 2018-01-11T19:15:11+00:00

I mean, what else can you expect from reddit and especially mass media celebs? Of course she wants to be sexual and not be sexualized. That is only way she can keep a straight face, be innocent and popular at the same time.

Entropy-7 · 2018-01-11T20:40:30+00:00

Women want to be sexualized by men they find sexy. Other men can go die in a fire.

SpaceWhiskey · 2018-01-11T23:00:53+00:00

So if someone posts a sexy picture of themselves on social media, they are only allowed to be sex objects? This argument is so frustrating. She wasn’t complaining about getting sexual comments on her sexual picture, she was talking about being sexualized during non-sexual situations. It’s shitty to slap a label on someone and not see them as multi-faceted beings. To post her sexual pictures next to that headline is a silencing tactic, this is what sexism looks like.

crumblesnatch · 2018-01-11T19:25:40+00:00

Selling music/acting/art/whatever to a US market must be so weird. The culture is simultaneously puritanical and degenerate, and companies want to appeal to the widest audience possible, leading to some pretty jarring contradictions.

IckyStickyPoo · 2018-01-11T21:38:24+00:00

Everyone wants to be viewed as a human being - a whole human being with thoughts and feelings and ability to feel pain and love and capacity to achieve.

No one wants to be viewed as having value by their body parts only.

Because if you are viewed for body parts only, then it goes way back to a prehistoric fear of being eaten (by animals or other humans) or used for those parts (as slaves or raped etc).

Women have a long history of being seen by men (the dominant gender) as something for his use, not much differently to his use of animals. Animals are still used in the same way today. However, women were never going to put up with this state of affairs forever. As soon as the age of brute force was over, women began seeking equality. Men never had anything superior to women but for their brute strength - which has become painfully obvious to even the most misogynistic of males.

There's your explanation.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-01-11T20:57:34+00:00

When women say they hate being sex objects it's because they hate being viewed that way by men they arent attracted to. If they are into you, they love it.

Dubslav_von_Chekem · 2018-01-11T19:33:12+00:00

Teehee, don't hit on me you silly boiz.

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-01-11T19:38:32+00:00

Why does it seem like women often say they hate being sex objects, while also sexualizing themselves and using sex or the idea of sex to get what they want

Women love to sexual themselves. Especially on a safe space medium like social media where they won't feel physically threatened.
Women find intense validation in men and women thinking they are sexy. It's deeply psychological for them.
Women hate being sexualized when they want to be taken seriously. I think men have a hard time separating the two and so they become mutually exclusive. It's very hard for me to take you professionally and seriously if you flop your tits in my face. While men can and often are seen as sexy in the workplace for being professional, assertive and authoritative, those acts from women are rarely seen as sexy. Probably deeply psychological on the part of men too. Women would rather have it both ways.
Women see this inability of men to take them seriously and sexy simultaneously as a sort of injustice. The mutual exclusivity of the two is distasteful for women. They would rather have it both ways or men have the ability to switch it one way or the other.
Monetary profit. She basically made a career selling her pussy. We aren't talking Natalie Portman here. She's a TV actress and a poor one at that. I'm guessing she is sad about the fact that she has to flash her butthole for views just to stay current in the modern age.

AstuteBlackMan · 2018-01-11T21:36:38+00:00

Because. They're hypocritical. They want to be viewed sexy only when they want to be viewed sexy. And they want to be viewed sexy but not have attention thrown their way but they also want attention but only from guys they like that are cute.

They also don't give a damn about sexualizing men.

MoodyAres · 2018-01-11T19:52:02+00:00

The most obnoxious hyper feminist I know posted on twitter that she used her sex appeal to get a mechanic to fix her car for free on a holiday.

Power plays within power plays boys.

crackrocksteady7 · 2018-01-11T20:05:19+00:00

Why does it seem like women often say they hate being sex objects, while also sexualizing themselves and using sex or the idea of sex to get what they want

Shit test

BiggerDthanYou · 2018-01-11T20:25:38+00:00

Try reading her first quote more carefully.

"oversexualized and treated like objects" ≠ "sexualized and treated like a person"

She isn't saying that she doesn't want to be sexualized. She's saying that she doesn't want to be treated as a mere sex object.

Similarly you might enjoy paying for your girlfriends dinner or your friends beer, but you don't want to get treated like nothing than a mere money dispenser by random women.

despisedlove2 · 2018-01-12T05:24:38+00:00

Female power is primarily sexual in nature.

This feminist whine is just another attempt at securing the right to use that power, and not have any responsibility arising from having done so. Fits the definition of feminism rather neatly.

MrPerfidy · 2018-01-13T05:35:19+00:00

One of my go-to shit-starting/attention-stealing op tactics is to ask women why it's considered totally normal to walk around bearing the exact image of your naked ass by wearing tights/yoga pants, whatever. My wife also, wears those kinds of pants, and I ask her why she doesn't think it's weird to show the entire world the exact shape of her ass, and she acts like I'm just weird for even thinking that. Strangers obviously are much more hostile but no woman has ever offered even an attempt at a rational explanation for this behavior. I think the hostility comes from suspecting that I know the rational explanation. I get a lot of They Live moments out of mentioning it.

Taipanshimshon · 2018-01-11T19:15:12+00:00

Why does it seem like women often say they hate being sex objects, while also sexualizing themselves and using sex or the idea of sex to get what they want

because thats what they do when they are presenting an image of any sort

BisquitBill · 2018-01-11T19:21:00+00:00

Why does it seem like women often say they hate being sex objects, while also sexualizing themselves and using sex or the idea of sex to get what they want

Its one of the many paradoxes of the feminist movement, to claim one is not an object but then complain men don't find women attractive enough to look at.

VAOTOMARNOCU · 2018-01-11T23:00:40+00:00

ESFP women are usually dumb as fuck, no one takes them seriously

madscientistlove · Thu Jan 11 23:01:25 2018 UTC

OP, can you please edit your post to include a brief summary of the linked post.

BisquitBill · 2018-01-11T23:44:44+00:00

I wouldn't mind be sexualized myself, although it would be odd considering I am both fat and out of shape.

newName543456 · 2018-01-12T08:11:15+00:00

People are sexualized unless explicitly declaring themselves as asexual.

Problem is, as usual, who is sexualizing and in what context. If it's done by someone unattractive, well...

MercedesBenzoAMG · 2018-01-12T09:49:42+00:00

Who the fuck even is this random bitch?

(Would normally put that under automod but it's not here)

quicklogaccount · 2018-01-12T18:29:14+00:00

Why does it seem like women often say they hate being sex objects, while also sexualizing themselves and using sex or the idea of sex to get what they want

Some people that get outraged by it believe that women that sexualize themselves are free to do it to their benefit but others aren't allowed to do it "against their will". In practice they believe that since "women can change their minds", EVERYONE must acknowledge this change and act accordingly. No such thing as "using one's past against her" strikes as fair.

Also, some people believe "you can eat some cakes and save others for later", in this case meaning only one's intentions (words) towards you define how you can fairly react to them, not her actions.

stillinpsychosis · 2018-02-14T20:42:42+00:00

Sexually objectifying someone is basing their worth off of sexual attraction. You can't force other people to do that to you, you can't sexually objectify yourself. it isn't being sexy or using sex. it's other peoples perception

[deleted] · 2018-01-11T21:28:05+00:00

Lots of comments calling people incels and saying she gets to make the choice of when to be sexualized.

I look at it like this.

No one is entitled to be treated a certain way. Meaning, you can denote treatment that incites violence, but no one is allowed to dictate how people, treat them in specific ways.

Just like men shouldn't dictate women's sexuality, women cannot dictate a man's sexuality.

Title	Sexualizing Women
Author	ppdlurker
Upvotes	12
Comments	104
Date	January 11, 2018 7:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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