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being funny and being a good comedian are two different things. I've known a lot of funny women. hilarious women, it's a very attractive trait to me. but they'd all make awful comedians.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:38 PM
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first guy is standing there all shoulders slumped dick in hand, second dude looks like he's finna challenge the camera to a fist fight come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:04 PM
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I'm not sure it's a matter of taste, per se. Adriana Lima is just my taste but she hasn't called me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:00 PM
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so you like thick chicks you don't have to go to such lengths to justify it, you're among friends here you don't see other people "regulating their attraction" because that concept is all in your head. I love a girl with some meat, I'm not regulating shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:10 PM
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yeah, assuming they get to the point where another person can even evaluate that. I think most people like that get stuck in an endless loop of messaging people on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:13 PM
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here's a redpill: the reason most unhappily single people can't find partners is neuroticism and overthinking. plain and simple. they'll go to great lengths and concoct elaborate fantasies to deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:14 PM
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physically harming another person is a criminal matter. a doctor can measure and communicate the damage in very objective terms. emotional harm is something you can try and sue someone for, but your chances of getting any traction are pretty damn slim. a person getting a judge to agree that a romantic partner hurt their feelings enough to be worth a financial settlement is so vanishingly rare that it's tabloid-worthy when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:06 PM
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we can disagree as to whether or not there are a lot of dumb lawsuits. neither of our opinions is wrong as there is no objective truth here to measure against. it would appear we do not disagree that hurt feelings are innately subjective and can therefor not be held to the same legal standard as physical harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:59 PM
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yes, I have a subjective opinion about a subjective topic. what is your point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:53 PM
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it does, however, mean it is not objective (as OP claimed) and cannot be placed on the same legal level as harm that is measurable. people sue each other for all sorts of dumb, subjective shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:37 PM
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this post is a mess. who is over-inflating women's status? I'm not. if you are that's your problem. in the same breath you're saying we shouldn't judge women but then that we should hold them accountable. what are they accountable for if they are not judged? organize your thoughts, jesus. you seem to imply that women as a class have lofty expectations put upon them and are unable to meet them. i have not observed that phenomenon on a society-wide scale. I have only seen individuals with unrealis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:26 PM
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you're bandying about a lot of logical language here. "objective," "equal in damage," etc. so tell me gallileo what metrics are you using to measure your hurt feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 08:06 PM
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of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:57 PM
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most men ultimately want to find a fulfilling relationship, we just want to be able to call the shots and enjoy ourselves on the way there. "I don't see a future or even a second date with this chick but I'm horny." whether or not we hit is ultimately the woman's shot to call, and a lot of men are jealous of that. they take rejection by a girl they have zero interest in beyond sex personally, and take it as a sign that they're not attractive enough as opposed to a sign that the girl isn't stupid…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:32 PM
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don't bother explaining real life to obvious porn addicts time is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:07 PM
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living life. this place got overrun by losers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:55 PM
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who are you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:54 PM
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don't underestimate how many dudes spend half their lives watching porn but are squeamish af about pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:48 PM
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that shit never lasts, it's just something attention whores and desperate dudes get into to feel special and get laid respectively. the normal way to get strange is either don't commit and sleep around or cheat, depending on your scruples
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 11:18 PM
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...if she wants to divorce A to marry B, one would assume any infidelity on her part is with B anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 07:20 PM
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CEO's are generally very socially smart, they're capable managers and delegators. you won't find much intersection between the population of brilliant mathematical and scientific geniuses and CEO's. people who are analytically gifted are, more often than not, deficient in social skills because they are natural systematizers. autism is the extreme manifestation of this tendency. this isn't to diminish mathematical genius, but to say it's social finagling and manipulating, not IQ that gets you to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:47 PM
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highly libidinous behavior is not feminine, though, it's masculine. femininity is to resist sexual scenarios until she has been seduced, convinced. men are the sexually generous sex. some of us would fuck all day every day and not get shit done if we could. femininity is the other side of that coin, it limits how much sex we can have. I love sexually generous women, but I'm not under any illusion that that's a feminine trait. but I'll also admit that I prefer masculine women, they don't require …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:34 PM
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As i said, I'm not claiming that every guy who wants to find a girlfriend in college is influenced by morality, but a hell of a lot of those guys are. they want a girlfriend because they want to have sex and believe it is immoral to "use" women for sex alone without intending to date them. that's not to say men don't organically, happily find themselves in relationships when they meet the right person but what I described is more often than not the mindset of single guys who set out to find a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:21 PM
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I'm sure that regret evaporates once they meet someone. I'm not denying that there are wild scenes in some cities, I'm saying it's never as easy as a college campus where you're living in coed dormitories with young, immature, and reckless people who are all +- 3 years of your age. shooting fish in a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:19 PM
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and my point is that those decisions are not made in a moral vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 09:16 PM
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I never claimed it was always a moral decision. for a lot of guys finding and caring for a future wife is a significant part of the morality they were raised in. there is still a strong abstinence-until-marriage culture in the US and while few actually follow it to the letter many guys feel it is wrong to hook up with a girl they are not dating and have no intention of dating. for a guy to engage in no strings attached hookups is still seen, quite broadly, as taking advantage of women especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:51 PM
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personal attacks already? this thread is still a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:41 PM
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even better to try them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:41 PM
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for plenty it is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:41 PM
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yes, plenty of guys play themselves by clinging to high and mighty goals and, more commonly, morals. I'm not debating this, I'm saying they're playing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:36 PM
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good on ya taking yourself out of the competition but you're playing yourself by not taking advantage of that high demand. no dude looks back and regrets all the crazy sex he had in college, but plenty regret wasting those years with one chick. there is no easier time in life to experience lots of sex with lots of people than college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:33 PM
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what good is "being in super high demand" if your intent is to saddle yourself with one chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:31 PM
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yeh but you're playing yourself by having a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 08:27 PM
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you wouldn't want to invest in the type of girl who would be ok with being a lifelong girlfriend but you would want to invest in the type of girl who would "pull the plug" and leave you for someone taller? you have odd taste in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:07 PM
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ok, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:05 PM
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you'll find the same lynchmobs on both sides, people who think his wife "deserves" nothing despite what the law says. but what exactly does this have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:05 PM
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marriage rates are going down overall, but they are declining faster among less educated people. educated people are also getting married less than they were 20, 30 years ago but still more than poor/uneducated people are today. uneducated people are the ones popping out kids while cohabitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:03 PM
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if you have a weird medical symptom and you google it, the first thing to come up will be accounts from the small fraction of people who had that same symptom and it turned out to be something horrible. the majority of people who's symptoms go away or turn out to be nothing don't take to the internet to write about it, generally speaking. it skews the casual searcher's perception of how likely the symptom is to be a serious, life-altering condition. if that casual searcher happens to be prone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:01 PM
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IIRC they get married more often than less educated, just later in life in the late 20s/early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:56 PM
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when someone is betrayed in a visible and public way, people tend to root for them to get theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:54 PM
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ok duly noted
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:53 PM
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yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:52 PM
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wild guess but I think any cheering for her to "clean him out" comes from her being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:41 PM
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nobody's forcing you to marry anyone, amigo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:36 PM
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his feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:30 PM
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doesn't it go up as the property ages and requires more upkeep, though? newer properties almost always have cheaper HOA fees than older ones for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:24 PM
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in the US yeah but China and India are selecting more than enough boys for them to still be vastly outnumbered
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:18 PM
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science the only reason scientists exist is because we live in such a safe, regulated, law-abiding society. if it was really dog-eat-dog as you're suggesting the gangbangers would be running rampant and not many soft white-collar men would be left. very few men who make a living on their brain in an office would have the physical strength to fight off career criminals and thugs. look around you, they're soft and fat. dead in days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 06:09 PM
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I understand 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 06:00 PM
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correct but that skills training is more accessible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 05:47 PM
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Sounds like the issue in your field is that masters degrees are easier to get than they were 20, 30 years ago. a master's degree used to be exclusive, now it's easy to get into a master's program even if you were a middling student.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 05:33 PM
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companies with phone farms in the Philippines have taken over many corporate office jobs. you can keep the company on retainer to, say, manage your payroll for a fraction of what you'd pay an HR manager. Lawyer salaries have fallen from a proliferation if law schools. a law degree is more accessible than ever before, so less qualified applicants are being churned out. to add insult to injury online legal databases make lawyers' expertise less exclusive. engineers are paid above average and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 05:22 PM
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the doubling of the workforce took many decades, women didn't all head to work overnight. the market had time to adjust. outsourcing expanded the labor force much quicker, to include people with entirely different costs of living. why would I pay someone $80,000 a year to manage payroll when a company with employees in the Philippines will do it for $800/mo? plenty of white collar jobs are outsourced. tons and tons of programming is done in India, for example. many HR activities (background scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 05:16 PM
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I'm suggesting it's not a factor. outsourcing and anti-union policies have depressed wages, not a few more broads in the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:59 PM
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"massive expansion of the labor force" as in paying someone in India or the Philippines to do your job for pennies. stateside women had nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:58 PM
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I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:53 PM
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younger people aren't getting married as often anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:51 PM
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delusional. 20+ years of rampant outsourcing is what has depressed wages
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:48 PM
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Ive considered fucking a bunch of women to be experiencing life my whole life. also drugs, partying, etc. it's not limited to things you personally morally approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 03:16 PM
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there it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:27 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:21 PM
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chicks with sticks up their asses? I've met them. mostly fat and trying to compensate by being "traditional."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:27 PM
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sloppy drunks who fuck around with lowlifes 10 times out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:00 PM
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yeah some people don't have fun. this all sounds incredibly boring you're not selling me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:55 PM
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so you're like the church girl who only ever has fine, upstanding boyfriends and then a fine, upstanding husband but "has lusted after" rebels. what's the difference, a few shreds of willpower? better to at least experience what you're lusting after in my experience. it's crazy how you guys see experiencing life as some kind of moral failing, it must be exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:53 PM
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racially conscious is a new euphemism for racist, correct? I can't keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:48 PM
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it's not just the middle class, my man. and I love chicks like that. call me an applebees fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:39 PM
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there's a pretty huge intersection between neoreactionary old white guys and old white guys who buy brides from more traditional third world countries so if "race mixing" is a problem it's an ironic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 04:37 PM
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I am very anti marriage. that said, what is hot and what is good for you are two different sets of criteria. chicks go for rebels the same way we go for hot crazy. I know not to date the psychos but I have to fight my impulse because the sex is so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 03:44 PM
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but the chicks you're talking about, like the OP of your link, are currently with nice guys. so she grew up, learned what's good for her, and got her shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:50 PM
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a difficult 30-something was once a difficult 20-something. nothing magical happens to chicks when they turn 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 02:03 PM
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18-year-olds aren't competition for 30-somethings. 28-year-olds, sure, but you can't tell the difference. if a middle aged man thinks that new crop of teenagers has any bearing on his romantic prospects he's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:55 PM
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glass houses my man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:49 PM
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I suppose we should get rid of juvenile court and try every teen as an adult, then. nobody who did dumb shit when they were young should get the benefit of the doubt, we should treat them as if they had the wisdom, experience, and decision-making capabilities of a fully-fledged adult. additionally, everyone who ever got fucked over by a shitty ex should take blame for that person's shittiness. having a bad relationship in your past shall, henceforth starting now, be a black mark upon your charac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:43 PM
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thanks I needed a laugh. yes, OP should head to an internet forum straightaway to find his wifey
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:05 PM
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probably so, I'm not arguing for them I'm calling out OP's delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:04 PM
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what sweet, feminine chore-loving 20-somethings are you meeting and where do you live, fantasy island? give me a break. date who you want but at least be honest that it's because you think they're hotter. 20-something chicks are all sloppy drunks who cuss like sailors and fuck around with lowlifes from tinder. that's how I like them but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:11 AM
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alimony is very rarely awarded and when it is it is almost exclusively to non-working spouses where an agreement was reached that they would quit their jobs (I'd say wives but a female friend of my mother's is paying alimony to her ex-husband.) in addition to being considered archaic and unnecessary there are lawyers in every city who specialize in helping higher earning spouses avoid it. and yes, she will get at least some of the savings that they ostensibly budgeted together to put away (many …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 08:32 PM
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Let's do the math: when she's married to him her income is effectively $150,000. when she divorces him it goes down to $50,000. she might get some of their marital assets, but she'll still only be making 1/3 of the household income she was accustomed to. and since she does have an income no judge would even consider alimony. she has no claim to any of his future income. so how is she financially incentivized? I'm not following your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:05 PM
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I don't recall the exact site but there are some online databases that post survey data every few years, IIRC some states aren't included
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:49 PM
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yes women do the bulk of household spending. groceries, school supplies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:48 PM
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I'll take your word that experience has taught you things but it doesn't seem to me that you understand how divorce or the legal system works. "they" don't calculate incomes at all... a judge may preside over the division of assets, but it is usually settled out of court. how assets are divided as a default is determined by state law but de facto individual ownership of marital property (IE his car her car) is absolutely taken into account. of course there are scorched Earth divorce cases but st…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:46 PM
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Chad is any guy who actually gets ass, an alpha is what internet virgins imagine themselves to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:52 PM
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mary poppins is a work of fiction no wonder yall have issues relating to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:48 PM
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wives make most household purchases, so yes his expenses will go down when he becomes a single man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:47 PM
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alimony is only awarded in 4-5% of divorces and is usually time-limited. it's much, much rarer than TRP would have you believe. more likely she's not making much on her own and now has to support herself (and all that that entails) on that salary alone. if she doesn't adjust her spending habits accordingly she'll quickly be in the poorhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:46 PM
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no it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 12:03 PM
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ah, fair enough then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:15 AM
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I think it's largely self-imposed. people get married and it's not imperative to stay attractive anymore, it gets deprioritized. then other life shit hits and they're eating takeout more than they used to and having an extra glass of wine or two a night and suddenly they're 50 lbs heavier and look like shit. older women can be total smokeshows, I've been with a few (not sure how I pulled it off but glad that I did.) but it takes a certain kind of person to be willing and carve out time for groom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:11 AM
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you're thinking first kid, though. some might have started in their twenties or thirties and had their last kid at 40, who is now in class with your kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:08 AM
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bizarrely absolutist thought
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 01:32 AM
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Women don't like being shunned or ostracized by other women no matter how dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:09 PM
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These guys mostly had massive drinking problems and would just stop going to work until they got fired. my aunts supported them. but you have a detailed imagination I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 10:08 PM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:09 PM
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next time you want a girlfriend don't bullshit around and act like you want to keep it casual. FWB's aren't beholden to you, they don't have to check in with you, nut up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:30 PM
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you torpedoed this one, chief. better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:24 PM
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his "point" is rambling and nonsensical my emotion is confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:23 PM
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the guys in question aren't usually that rich, I think there's more to it. but you could be on to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:12 PM
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...the fuck are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:11 PM
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I don't believe any such thing, I look at the numbers. it's entirely likely the wives have spousal life support policies from their husband's plan, that is very typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:13 PM
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I agree, especially for women. there must be a "now what" moment when the honeymoon is over
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:59 PM
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...every single woman is a golddigger? at least half of my female relatives have been married to a string of dead enders. most of the ones that aren't still out-earn their husbands. we aren't rich though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:31 PM
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to be clear you're claiming women don't have disability or life insurance? where do you get that info?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:29 PM
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I'm not taking it literally, I'm following it to its logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:52 PM
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when you win against the house, it necessarily loses when you shoot a deer, the deer dies. it loses. the house doesn't want to lose. the deer doesn't want to die. both will do everything in their power to avoid that fate. I'm following your analogies to their logical conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:46 PM
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if you think a chick is literally or metaphorically "losing" by banging you then you have some pretty major issues to figure out before chasing any tail
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:38 PM
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I have too, but I don't discount that there are plenty of weak women. I think it has something to do with women being socialized as caretakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:35 PM
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I understand, but that's a polite mixed-company dialogue. women talking among women is a different story. women are the worst slut/gold digging shamers and for good reason. men conduct themselves publically, women are covert.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:07 PM
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it's a very common occurrence, doesn't require Anna Nicole Smith level behavior. "did Sharon bring her new man around you yet? well you know she's only with him because _______"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:41 PM
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...do you not have female relatives to eavesdrop on? women are vicious toward other women they perceive as golddigging.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:35 PM
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leaving a sick spouse is weak behavior. men and women both do it at higher rates than they ought to, they are weak people. it's not a female thing or a male thing, it's a weak person who runs from difficult situations thing. I thought it was generally acknowledged Oprah is a lesbian and he's a beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:27 PM
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everyone loves conditionally, everyone has their limits. some people can tolerate more stress in a relationship than others and from what I've seen, people with low tolerances tend to gravitate towards each other. remember when you hear someone bitching about how conditional their partner is that that person (man or woman doesn't matter) is likely also very conditional. I see a lot of women who marry a guy for his money then complain about how demanding he is of her looks, and vice versa. these …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:24 PM
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statistically speaking husbands leave sick wives at pretty high rates as well. not being able to deal with the stress of a deathly sick spouse is a trait of weak people generally, not just weak women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:19 PM
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so that was my point that you took issue with and why I implied your example wouldn't work. I stand by that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:57 PM
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and I stand by it. 23-year-olds don't care about the same things 30-year-olds care about, they have shorter lists of must-haves because they can afford to. they date broke guys all the time, because most guys in their age cohort are in fact broke. as they get older they start to care more about stuff like money and career trajectory and father material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:36 PM
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some of them do, obviously, but my guess is they tend to be the ones who could afford kids on their own as-is. they want a guy to have a family with, but if push came to shove they could go it alone. I'd also guess that that lowering of standards comes after they've failed for some time to find a guy who fits the bill. It's like if you're buying a house. if you look and look and can't find anything in your budget that's move in ready you go for a fixer-upper that's a little cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:32 PM
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30-something single women aren't desperate due to a lack of men willing to date them, they're desperate due to a lack of men willing to date them that fit their standards and would be good husband material in short order. most responsible family-minded career-oriented men with earning potential are already married and working on families of their own by the time they're in their 30's and those 30-something women aren't as willing to date broke young dudes as they were when they were younger. you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:23 PM
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If a woman that picks men like this has lower standards, that means that women naturally pick based on career, income, home ownership and debt, no? those are all attractive qualities to women, yes. they indicate status and responsibility. So why would young women not pick richer men? Is it an instance of not being able to, or not wanting to? Immaturity and what's around them. most are in some sort of schooling and they're surrounded by similarly-minded young men. they're having fun and haven't s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:14 PM
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23-24 years old, likely still in school or working a service industry or entry level job, indebted, not a home owner, low (if any) income, not much (if any) money in the bank, living with roommates, and engaging in much riskier pleasure-seeking behavior more frequently than his older counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:03 PM
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that's correct and I gave examples thereof. they are at a different, more carefree stage of life. what I didn't say (and you know it) is that the average 24-year-old man is a drug dealer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:55 PM
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where did I say that's average? I'm pointing out examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:48 PM
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they do. they date the young men around them, they date drug dealers they date guys with drinking problems they date unemployed "artists" they don't particularly care about their boyfriends' career prospects because they don't know or care what having a career is like, what have you... they're young, they're having fun, they don't care and neither do the guys they date. as young couple's grow and mature into adult couples they may or may not get their shit together. I personally think most do, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:45 PM
3

you're correct it doesnt. that's why I didn't include anything about what those guys are like when they get married in my original statement, just what they are like when they are dating 23-year-old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:32 PM
1

who's talking about women? I'm only talking about this particular woman, what we know, and what we don't know. you are jumping to factual conclusions based on your moral ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:27 PM
3

reading can be difficult, I'll break it down: most early 20-somethings are losers. they're clueless. I've been there, we all have. if you've ever been to a college party (I sold drugs I've been to many) you've seen this dipshittery in action. women get married on average at age 25-27 after several years of dating. most men get married when they are about a year older. so clueless 23-year-old women are-- statistically speaking-- dating clueless 24-year-old men. sometimes those people grow up and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:25 PM
1

no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:17 PM
3

sometimes yes. sometimes those college liquor-chugging losers become responsible men. sometimes the dipshit 23-year-old girlfriends also become responsible women, that's certainly the best possible outcome. but sometimes they party themselves into obesity and divorce. sometimes the loser guys stay losers and college drinking evvolves into a bigger problem. my point is that most people are clueless losers in their early 20's, then some of them figure it out. but early-20's women, by and large, ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:15 PM
1

that's a bold statement. help comes in a variety of forms... most importantly family support. but getting family support necessarily requires some vulnerability and copping to having a bad time. families and friends help individual men get back on their feet all the damn time, it's a lifesaver. it could be as simple as "crash on my couch while you get your shit together, let's go to the gym"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:11 PM
3

I said nothing of planning. I said 23-year-old girlfriends evolve into 26 or 27-year-old brides. that doesn't mean it was part of some master plan from the get-go. women tend (statistically) to get into the relationships that eventually become marriage in their early 20's. doesn't mean they or their boyfriends are planning for shit at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:09 PM
3

you obviously think more highly of 23-year-old women's judgment than I do. early-20-something people aren't known for being great arbiters of good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:59 PM
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who said anything about responsibility? I'm anti-marriage so I'll never call it responsible, but those are the numbers. statistically speaking women date and eventually marry their college (or soon-after-college, or grad school, whatever) boyfriends. its easy to marry a 23-year-old if you're willing to start dating her when you are a similar age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:49 PM
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average age of marriage for chicks is 25-27 years old (depending on the stats you refer to, but solidly mid-20's) after a few years years of dating and engagement. so statistically speaking yes they are settling down into long term relationships that eventually become marriages at 23. women who forego relationships to build careers are a pretty small, coastal, wealthy minority and have the standards to be expected of that position in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:48 PM
7

23 year olds have much lower standards they date their loser college boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:42 PM
1

depends where she lives, that 10% isn't evenly distributed. if she's in California it'll be pretty easy, Kansas not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:35 PM
0

there's nothing weaker or more cowardly than suicide. better to get help when you need it (and let's be honest, women aren't exactly knocking down the doors of depressed, lonely, unhealthy men determined not to get help lest they "look vulnerable," so that much is a moot point) than let yourself get to the point where suicide seems reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:29 PM
1

certainly possible, but she wasn't the one who said it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:38 AM
2

but they don't. they can identify someone as the father but he can challenge them by buying a paternity test which, if she's lying, nukes her claim. anyone can accuse anyone else of anything but that doesn't mean it'll hold water or go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:14 AM
1

then that non-bio-dad who makes $100,000 a year can buy a $20 paternity test if he has doubts and render her decision null and void.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:29 AM
2

she's an unscrupulous person. we don't know whether she intentionally deceived the husband or not but since she used protection with the other guy signs point to no. she wasn't trying to have his kids. that's the extent of my argument. maybe she used condoms but for whatever reason poked holes in them, well never know. it's a long jump to conclusions to claim it was her intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:28 AM
2

there are plenty of settled tribes, this is semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:25 AM
1

just the coasts, it's a buyer's market in the interior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:25 AM
1

yes I don't understand the rationale. we've moved away from taxpayers paying for poor kids and toward the bio fathers paying, at least in the US as of 1996.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:23 AM
2

the concept of paternity, however primitive, became a concept around the same time as property.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:47 PM
2

we have already established she's a scumbag, no need to beat a dead horse. my point is simply that it's unlikely she deliberately had kids with the other man since they were actively using protection, however imperfect it turned out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:46 PM
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I go dutch on dates and it's never been an issue. I can't speak to their beliefs but I've never gotten into a discussion with a chick about equality or gender roles, they all have bigger issues to be concerned with like getting by day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:41 PM
3

I'm not following your doomsaying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:35 PM
1

gout is a disease of overindulgence, old men marrying young women have been the butt of jokes since forever, inbred people are the product of immorality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:34 PM
3

...I'd think a female-run society would eschew concepts like cuckoldry and paternity altogether. there are some tribes that do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:11 PM
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no the reason was because for a long time it was believed that the male provided the "seed" of humanity and the woman only provided the environment in which that seed could grow. the word 'barren' is an agricultural metaphor to this end. if you plant seeds and none of them grow the obvious conclusion is that you must not have provided the right conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:57 PM
3

interesting that you assume male infertility, not only today but historically, was always caused by some visible moral failure. kind of gives away your hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:53 PM
5

I don't know if she knew and neither does anyone here, but since everyone else has concluded that she must have not only known but intentionally and maliciously deceived her husband I'm presenting an argument to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:50 PM
3

there's been a real spike in victim complexes around here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:49 PM
2

or just leave the bay area
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:48 PM
3

you live in an immensely overpaid, primarily male area... I'm not sure what you expect, it's a seller's market for women. it's like if I lived in a place where average home prices were hovering around $500-600k with more buyers than sellers and I was sitting there with a $300k budget refusing to settle for a fixer upper. I'm gonna be waiting a looong time. your only real options are the same as mine would be in that hypothetical situation: either move to a buyer's market or make some serious con…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:04 PM
4

weakness isn't genetic it's how you choose to behave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:54 PM
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as I've said several times, she's a scumbag, but it's quite a stretch to assume she intentionally and knowingly got knocked up by her affair partner and cuckolded her husband. more likely she used protection with the other man and no protection with her husband, who she and everyone else assumed to be fertile, and assumed the kids-- conceived on accident despite condom use-- were his.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:29 PM
3

I don't understand your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:27 PM
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the kids are 4 years apart, so it went on for at least that long. And really, 2 failures over even just 4 years using only condoms when she's not on birth control and theres no plan B available is a pretty damn low rate of failure. let's assume they fucked once a week and let's assume the affair only lasted 4 years. that's 52 times a year x 4 years or 208 times total. 2/208 = 0.9% failure rate, so even lower than your perfect use statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:50 PM
5

3 kids, 2 pregnancies. over the course of a years-long condom-only affair it's not that crazy of a failure rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 07:36 PM
5

you always have the option not to date the crazy bitch. nobody's holding a gun to your head forcing you to have a girlfriend. your reasoning is insane to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:52 PM
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I have also been cheated on and I have been a cheater, I'm not debating personal experience. if the girl I'm fucking has a boyfriend you bet your ass we're doubling up on the prevention. I don't want her kid, not in the era of DNA tests where she could turn around and use it to fuck me over. it is known that she hid at least one affair, but there's no evidence to suggest she knew that guy was the father. that's a hell of a long jump to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:34 PM
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that's not necessarily true, she was clearly fucking him frequently enough that he believed the story and timeline for decades. and if she and the other guy were using precautions it probably didn't look like a probable scenario not knowing her husband's condition. of course it's possible she knew and pulled off a masterful and intentional deception for decades but it's not alluded to in the article and there's no incentive for her to do so. if she's trying to hide the affair and keep the rich h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:25 PM
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The characteristic "beta males" who spent their youth living under the old rules being kind and friendly and respectful toward women what old rules? there has never been a no ye olde being her friend until she fucks you rule. women have never been attracted to weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:20 PM
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is this a coastal thing or a rich person thing? sounds (to me) like you're basing this off of huffpo women's interest articles, I can't think of a single chick I met that did or said any of this kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:16 PM
4

France has a robust welfare state including fully socialized healthcare, very different attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:10 PM
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do they know it's the same guy? do they know there weren't multiple affairs? she confessed to one but she's a scumbag who obviously has no issue concealing such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:07 PM
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where does it say she knew the kids weren't his, though? AFAIK they both believed him to be fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:05 PM
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the only deception I'm getting here is her hiding the fact that she had an affair. there's nothing to suggest she or anyone knew the kids weren't his and intentionally concealed it. obviously she's a scumbag but concealing an affair that happened decades ago isn't exactly a master class in deception, people do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 06:00 PM
3

hair and skin treatments, personal trainers, personal chefs, surgeons
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 05:40 PM
9

that's not scarcity its desperation and prioritizing looks over everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 02:03 PM
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One thing that TRP doesn't understand is that these men look great as they get older because they have amazing genetics boatloads of cash. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 05:22 AM
1

the bulk of women on tinder never actually meet anyone, they just soak up the validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:48 PM
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both sexes are willing to date down relative to one standard to max out another. guys will fuck an ugly girl that they have contempt for if she's easy, women will fuck an ugly guy that they have contempt for if he's rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:52 PM
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define 'dating down?' many men will date down in pretty much every category to get easy sex and many women will date down in pretty much every category to get money. a short, fat dude who comes into money will shortly have his pick of significantly more attractive women just as a fat ugly old chick who's willing to put out will shortly have her choice of significantly more attractive men. same tactic different priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:09 PM
7

not on every chick but enough to keep your dick wet consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 02:18 AM
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This is my preferred way to get into relationships Well yeah you're a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:10 AM
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give her the ol' "I'm not ready now but I don't want to lose you"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:02 AM
3

either not trying or in denial about an unattractive trait
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:54 PM
2

?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 10:22 PM
1

yeh because I like tits and ass
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 09:18 PM
1

I'm listening. but government policies have directly contributed to more out of wedlock people and unemployed people are captive voters so I guess I'm not following. a jobless, dependent population is much easier to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 09:04 PM
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ayy lots of minifridge bodies tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 08:51 PM
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a chick who works at McDonald's probably won't put that on her profile its not sexy. I match with hairdressers and pyramid scheme moms and shit all the time though so it might be you live in a rich area they can't afford. Lots of those chicks are fat too so could be you're swiping left without reading their bio
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 08:30 PM
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that's such a tiny, infinitessimal little edge case... the vast, vast majority of the time when someone makes it to that age as a virgin they're either not really bothering to try (shy or too busy or whatever) or there's something glaringly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 08:26 PM
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maybe I wasn't clear I'm trying to ask how you concluded that marriage is a government control mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 08:06 PM
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theres an element of "don't generalize me unflatteringly" from women, that's human nature. nobody likes to hear a group they belong to generalized negatively, that's ingroup/outgroup. the fact is that systematizing human relationships doesn't work for most people because the tendency to systematize is exactly what makes those kinds of guys antisocial in the first place. people are unpredictable, so if you have anxious and inhibited tendencies dating's a minefield. I get it. systems are comfortin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 07:01 PM
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then you should know that the issue isn't the method of receiving information but the fact that it puts the cart before the horse which has turbocharged the incel problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:51 PM
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I hear what you're saying lewis and I'm telling you you're incorrect. read past the first sentence my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:45 PM
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you sound like tony robbins, dog, humblebragging doesnt go over well anywhere on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:42 PM
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this post makes OP come off as someone who has never been on a date, or has very limited dating experience >_> that's most people on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:35 PM
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the whole "if you ask her out be prepared to pay" line is womens wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:34 PM
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that's not the objection at all... nobody objects to dudes trying to improve their dating lives, that's some victim mentality bullshit. TRP misses the forest for the trees. they get granular about exactly what exact kinds of behavior, pursuits, etc. will make them attractive to women without realizing that intense systematizing is in and of itself deeply unsexy to women. they study how to appear not to give a fuck while actually giving so many fucks. people see that shit. you're better off to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:32 PM
5

government control mechanism weird take. tax-wise it behooves the government to encourage people to stay single. they pay higher tax rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:39 PM
1

Santa Fe is better for that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 01:10 PM
3

please. every single chick I know is fat. come down to the ABQ sometime you can have your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 01:46 AM
3

you like humiliation porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 01:45 AM
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their problem isn't a lack of single women due to old guys dating them, it's that the available women do not want to date them and aren't desperate for boyfriends. One of 3 things is happening with those guys: 1) theres something unattractive about them that is consistently causing the single girls they approach to choose to remain single rather than date them. 2) they're shooting out of their league and would have better luck with less attractive girls than the ones they're pining after. theres…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:01 PM
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there are certain issues that are emotionally loaded and attract (almost exclusively, in some cases) people with certain experiences in common. I can safely assume that a woman bemoaning the lack of good men is single and has had bad dating experiences. I can safely assume that someone who is intensely interested in dog rescue owns a dog. I can safely assume that a man who has a lot to say about how awful hookup culture is has been left out of it. I might not be right every time... I might encou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:28 PM
1

I don't think the majority of women are sluts, just the ones hanging out at bars hoping they fall on their future husband's dick. they're the ones who get passed around and you tend to encounter most often because they run the party scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:13 AM
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I don't consider it casual if he is doing things to make her think he's her boyfriend. it's a STR but it's not casual. clearly we disagree and aren't being productive in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:57 AM
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yes women definitely hookup with guys they've just met hoping that it turns into some kind of first date but that doesn't require any manipulation on his part, that's just a hopeful slut. hopeful sluts are the ones getting passed around, 50th times the charm
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:56 AM
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I disagree that two people dating each other, having sex, and spending time together has to have a label to be a relationship. that's a STR.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:52 AM
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yes in her mind she is having sex with her boyfriend because he is in every way acting like her boyfriend. he just pulls the rug out from under her at the last minute when she starts asking questions, blocks her, and then tells his buddies it was casual all along. she calls him a fuckboy because shes angry and regrets dating him. it wasn't casual sex it was sex within a relationship that he secretly intended to terminate before it could become a facebook official sealed deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:43 AM
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he is acting as if he is her boyfriend while assuring her he isn't yet but will be soon. that's not casual sex that's going through the whole relationship song and dance without a label. that's acting like her boyfriend but then breaking it off when she gets attached and starts wanting to cement the commitment. seen it go down more times than I can count, it's not casual to anyone involved except his ego. there are psycho bitches who do create a whole relationship with a guy in their heads but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:36 AM
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that shit takes planning and effort over time, not what I'd consider casual. casual is fucking with no strings attached, not nursing a crush into a one-sided FWB situation where you have to dangle the boyfriend carrot to keep it going until she eventually wises up. if you have to do that song and dance she considers you her boyfriend and the casualness is in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:19 AM
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youre not hooking up with most women. youre selecting for easy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:10 AM
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she sounds like a practiced criminal, which is probably why she knew what to say to get away with it. usually when a woman is caught tryna sex her way to the top other women in the organization are the ones to punish her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:03 AM
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figure of speech, common vernacular, not an anatomical statement. to clarify for the autists: a vulva is neither a feline nor a road.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:56 AM
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no jealousy, just something the ego eventually learns. didn't make an anatomical statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:51 AM
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and /u/littleknownfacts is correct. you ain't special.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:45 AM
3

don't discourage them from getting in bitch fights though that's what makes this place great
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:44 AM
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if you can fuck a girl right after y'all met so can (and have) a lot of other guys. it's one of life's tough lessons for the ol' ego. that pussy's a well-traveled highway or will be soon
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:41 AM
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I'm not sure women leverage their sexuality for that kind of stuff all that often just because there are consequences if she's found out. I mean, when I was dealing I got offered head all the time but that was broke junkies, not professional women in a professional setting with professional consequences on the line. it's not the 80's anymore, managers and HR departments are wise to that shit. that said, I see women leverage the male weakness for "I'm cute and can't do this, help me!" all the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:56 PM
26

...gives other guys her youth? what, is every dick she sucks a new crows foot? I got news for you it doesn't take long for a teenage dude to finish, she's not wasting that many hours. If you want every second of your future wife's youth you should start dating her in middle school and remain faithful for the rest of your days just like granny and grampa. you can raise a whole god-fearing brood and take them to church on Sunday. and friend because I want to shelter you from depravity I'll take on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:51 PM
5

polite catcall, you weren't intended to respond
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:16 PM
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how was it worded? more like "ay beautiful come over here!" or more like "you probably get this all the time, but you're really beautiful" two different things entirely in my book. one leaves you the opportunity to respond if you so choose and the other is just yelling at girls
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:07 PM
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approaching intends to initiate a conversation. it can start with an introduction or a polite compliment or just small talk. it's between you and the girl, and it's an attempt to gauge her interest. like "I think shes cute, is this worth pursuing?" catcalling gets right to the sexual point ("I wanna _____ those _____.") and isn't intended to be responded to. it's as much for your buddies to hear (in a "check out the ass on that one" kind of way) as the target
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 07:03 PM
9

even if you get a court-ordered 50/50 parenting split you still have to deal with that person and any other people they bring into your kid's life and not wanting to deal with someone you hate is a reason a lot of people settle for fewer parenting rights than they want. it's important to choose the mother of your kids carefully and make sure you're ok with having that person in your life forever. you can't go back once you've had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 03:47 PM
3

I think he's comparing today's challenges to yesterday's
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 03:44 PM
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most (maybe all now?) states default to shared custody and you have to convince a judge that you deserve more than 50% or (more often) voluntarily relinquish. problem is a lot of parents, especially fathers but I personally know a few mothers, take shit settlements to get an emotionally painful ordeal over with and avoid dragging out the case. most divorce cases by a significant margin are settled out of court. it's made even worse if the other parent hires some kind of aggressive ambulance chas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 03:38 PM
5

nuh uh we're concerned with 100% of thin middle class+ non-SJW college-age girls. that's basically all grills, since we're polymorphous men we don't discriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 04:33 AM
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no. I run into girls like that all the time, I didn't pull that description out of thin air. they all have lower class boyfriends and aren't in any way unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:38 PM
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class and behavior are inextricably linked, as behavior is derived from ones value set. middle class men would only be willing to date a lower class girl if she didn't have any lower class baggage or tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:37 PM
9

...you haven't studied economics or history, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:28 AM
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It is true. people from the middle and especially upper middle class are disgusted by the lower class. generally speaking they are heavier, in worse health, have different tastes (what the middle class would call trashy) and they don't share the same values or morals. UMC guys talk about how they'd date a girl from the wrong side of the tracks but this only applies if she looks and acts as if she's middle class. methinks they'd run if they found out she has a rap sheet, a kid, high interest cred…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:25 AM
1

Maybe. But a lot of women sign up for it anyway. Seems like a lot of them would rather be the soon-to-be-discarded side chick of a married high status man than the main chick of a low status one. It works when he's able to convincingly dangle an "I might leave my wife for you" carrot. You're right. But I think some rich men would be more likely to marry one of the young chicks if it wasn't for the social shaming. As it is, it makes more sense for the rich 50 year old guy to have an attractive yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 03:33 AM
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being a side chick is a dead end road, not worth it unless getting paid directly (sugar babying) is part of the arrangement. she's second rate in the present and will be less desireable in the future. the guys have to dangle that "maybe I'll leave my wife for you" carrot to keep it going I disagree that younger women have been made into "fucktoys for rich men." the vast, vast majority of young women date and sleep with guys their age but the contingent who play the side chick for a while are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:33 PM
5

definitely, all I'm saying is the young hot pornstar-age girls that TRP froths over aren't generally the ones getting into relationships with successful older men. late 20's is about the youngest you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:28 PM
2

yeh, for women taking care of yourself pays dividends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:26 PM
7

sure. but being a side chick isn't advantageous to a woman and that's my point. women want to be wives not booty calls. those men marry 30-40-something women. a bit younger but not scandalously so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:12 PM
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following social mores is an important part of becoming successful... or rather, knowing which ones to follow and which ones to strategically buck. there's a reason very few wealthy older men marry 20-something women even though there are without a doubt many cute 20-something women who would love nothing more than a rich husband. public shaming ruins people. no older man ever came out better in the court of public opinion for dating a very young woman. it be gets him labeled a creep and a letch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:09 PM
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I can't say I follow your logic. it's only advantageous if you consider banging the college athlete or president of the coolest frat to be a better deal for a woman than marrying the hedge fund manager. the vast, vast majority of college athletes don't become pros, they peak in college and end up working at Hertz.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:06 PM
2

betamax. any number of 1980's computers that were out-marketed by Microsoft. soft drinks that were out-marketed by Pepsi and coca cola. fast food restaurants that we're nerfed by McDonald's in the 50's. the history of business is full of great products that failed because of poorly-timed or shitty marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:03 PM
2

Can't say I agree with this. Even Hunter-gatherers climbed to success by innovation (bronze tools instead of stone ect.) The bronze age started after humans started forming larger agrarian settlements. Hunter gatherer lifestyle is not conducive to innovation. Those societies that still exist today are still in the stone age. This is totally dependent on peoples ability in general to find information, which is undergoing an overhaul. Regardless, salesmen still dont exist on a "need" basis it is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:57 PM
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men at the peak of their success arc's (mid-thirties - 50's) aren't dating 22-year-olds. they're dating women younger than them but still past what TRP would consider "the wall." a fit, attractive 30- or 40-something broad has better chances with a 40-50-something hedge fund manager than a co-ed. the co-ed might be cute but he'll be judged harshly for dating a girl that young.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:51 PM
2

In a society too small for salesmen you don't need innovation either, everyone engages in subsistence activities. But if the sophistication and resources are available to develop a new drug you need salesmen to convince people to invest in said drug. plenty of potentially awesome inventions go nowhere because they were outmarketed by their competitor. you need both sides of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:41 PM
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looks are pass/fail, they're what determines if she's willing to consider you at all. but charisma is what gets her out of her panties. plenty of good-looking dudes leave with a number at the end of the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:14 PM
1

you're churning out excellent /r/iamverybadass material
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:08 PM
3

being funny isn't charisma. you need confidence and social skills. and a fat guy is going to be a fail lookswise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:07 PM
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a huge part of attractiveness for men is comedic timing and social skills. your physical looks are a pass/fail thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:02 PM
1

are you suggesting that selling sex is as recent a phenomenon as capitalism? or that prior to that sex was only for people in relationships? wew lad, I've got a bridge to sell you...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:58 PM
2

don't go into science, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:56 PM
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How does the existence of famous scientists negate my point? Are you suggesting they all cloistered themselves away forever and never had social lives or cared for physical fitness? amigo that's a modern phenomenon. AFAIK Tesla is the only one who even remotely fits that bill and supposedly he was autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:55 PM
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no. people who donate every second to work at the expense of their physical fitness and social lives burn out in the long run. a nerd who goes to some parties and works out will be more productive for longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:41 PM
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are you suggesting there is a gene for being a "fuckboy?" I'm thinking that comes down to how you're raised. and anyway you're wrong. society needs salesmanship and politics. you need smooth talkers to represent and sell society on the new drug that the nerds invented, or convince people to invest in it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:36 PM
4

hop off braincels for a few hours and go outside, amigo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 03:12 PM
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there are plenty of affordable cities with thriving job markets, they're just not on the coasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:10 PM
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move somewhere affordable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:47 AM
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for someone with such a full and busy life she sure has a lot of time to maintain her facebook page. typical bored woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:43 AM
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be rich don't be poor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 02:38 AM
2

that minority of women is enough to keep his dick consistently wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 11:33 PM
1

stop giving instagram whores attention, jesus christ we're better than this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 11:28 PM
2

♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:56 PM
4

I'm just congratulating OP on his uniquely transcendent lifestyle. through his clear-eyed vision he has deserved the earned PPD gold star.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:46 PM
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what's the point of this post? you want a gold star and internet validation points? here you go: ⭐ you are The Most Original Person™ this sub has ever seen, congratulations on your awesome and unique, trailblazing worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 03:12 PM
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only if you marry a chick who A) makes significantly less than you and B) doesn't work during the marriage why anyone would do that is beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 02:28 PM
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kids born to young mothers in 2018 have a decent chance of being brought up without a dad, with a revolving door of boyfriends, in and out of poverty. I think that's a bigger issue than a larger but still relatively tiny chance of a birth defect which can be detected in utero and controlled for with IVF.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:52 AM
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it's just as pathetic no matter what's between their legs You probably haven't heard a man justify it that way because you don't date men and therefore don't especially care how men conduct themselves romantically. I only heard it because my sister was inconsolable for a few weeks, it was eye-opening
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:04 AM
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blah blah he wasn't getting enough affection, they were drifting apart, felt terrible about breaking up with her and couldn't bring himself to do it, "it just happened," on and on. guy was an embarrassment glad she's moved on. there are pussy ass guys out there I assure you, it's not a gendered thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:02 AM
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could be that you're scouring reddit for posts that reinforce your worldview and either don't know any shithead guys or are ignoring them. my sister dated a guy who tried to justify cheating on her, I wanted to put his head through a window.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 12:59 AM
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disagree, she approached a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 11:28 PM
1

indeed, they'll approach with some booze in them like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 11:27 PM
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I don't understand the point of your comments anymore. I stated that it doesn't happen except in scenarios A and B. you then tried to use one of the scenarios that I specifically listed as an exception to disprove my comment. if you want to debate the original OP post a top-level comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 11:00 PM
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theater people are depraved, he'll get plenty of ass
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:42 PM
1

bar not surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:39 PM
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but in my original comment I specified that women will indeed approach when they are drunk or have ulterior motives, so you're not disproving what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:39 PM
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last call like I said, drunk girls are another story
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:37 PM
3

ulterior motives, starfuckers and golddiggers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:47 PM
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obviously it's more complex than that in ways I don't realize or understand. I get that, I'm not claiming to understand what women put into expressing interest. I can personally tell a girl is interested when she engineers scenarios where we just happen to be in the same place at the same time, or starts showing up to parties/bars she doesn't usually frequent because I'm there. it took me a long time to figure that out and now that I get it I think it's pretty cute. the onus of actually initiati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:21 PM
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but those girls spent a long time trying to get the guy to ask her out, they didn't just throw out an opener, tell him he's hot, and ask him on a date. that's my point. there isn't a special class of guys that gets approached directly all the time by women for sex/relationships. it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:19 PM
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go outside and learn social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:15 PM
1

I'm talking about direct approaches, not women placing themselves in your general vicinity and hinting that they'd like you to ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:09 PM
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depends on what way he's out of her league. even if she's thirsty for a good looking guy she's not going to be the one to initiate. she'll "just so happen" to run into him a lot, but she won't ask him out: shell engineer a scenario where he asks her out, hint at it until he gets the picture. but if he's rich then all bets are off, she might throw herself at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:08 PM
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women "approach" by putting themselves in a guy's vicinity and looking pretty to encourage him to ask her out. they don't approach as men define it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 06:06 PM
5

riddled with it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:32 PM
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for good reason, I'd be suspicious of a coworker who was willing to approach me sexually at work
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:13 PM
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yes, those self-described career women who bitch about how they can't meet someone are the equivalent of guys who complain about how "nice guys finish last." that is to say, it's not their career that's the issue, it's that they're low value but either don't realize it or don't want to admit it. my uneducated guess based on articles I've seen linked here is that they tend to be hyper critical, controlling, and abrasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:11 PM
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the only women who approach men are either drunk or have ulterior motives. people on Reddit will tell stories about their friend who's so handsome women throw themselves at him in the street but it's all fanfiction. if a sober chick approached me out of the blue I'd dump my drink and guard my kidneys. here in the real world if you want to fuck you'll be the one approaching. ETA to clarify, I'm talking about women directly asking a guy out, not women indirectly hinting that they want to be asked …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:04 PM
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marriage is about consolidating wealth and resources and creating a next generation to inherit it and carry on that work. if you have a blacksmith's shop you'll want a wife to help keep the books and sell your products and have kids that you can train to take over when you get old. if you get an older stepson out of the deal that you can put to work right away so much the better. love marriage is a fairly recent concept, last 300 years or so. business practices have changed, you wouldn't necessa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 12:25 PM
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boring
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:25 AM
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it's not unique to men, it's unique to systematizers... a pretty small population who happen to be mostly men (from what I've seen.) systematizers want to be able to break everything down to quantifiable metrics, they want to know what percentage of meals you want to eat your favorite food at so they can compare it against what percentage of meals they'd want to eat their favorite food at to determine truthfulness. and when you add in all the emotions and insecurity that come with a subject as f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:24 AM
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of course it's not serious, but it says a lot about your mindset that you require mathematical breakdowns, however arbitrary, to understand emotional responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:19 AM
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you're trying to systematize a human perspective and emotion that you can never, personally, experience... why? how will attaching arbitrary percentages help you? what are you trying to accomplish by forcing people to quantify feelings? they're trying to tell you it's a pass/fail metric and you're insisting that there must be a secret formula they're not letting you in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 03:55 AM
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everyone technically has the option of not developing, but chances are you'll wind up fat and either homeless or in mom's basement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:13 PM
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it's revenge fantasies all the way down
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:42 PM
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sounds like a long-winded description of mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:39 PM
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well yeah, people love to get outraged and who is more outrage-inducing than a small minority of hypocrites complaining loudly? we can all sing kumbaya and set aside our differences because we agree that they're idiots. it's the same as guys who act as if there's a massive population of women spurning relationships until they're in their 30's. there are some, sure, but they're given an undue amount of attention because it's so obvious that their predicament is entirely self-induced. same with "n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:40 PM
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...ok. from your comments you seem to have a strong preference for environments without social interaction that could be even remotely construed as ambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 07:24 PM
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The guys who turn down the flat chested plain janes are the guys who CAN turn them down because they have plenty of options. . bullshit. single men with no other prospects turn down women they don't want to date for any number of reasons including "she's just not hot" all the time. not everyone is desperate for a girlfriend. an average girl being interested in an average guy doesn't automatically mean he's going to jump into bed/a relationship with her, he's a person with agency who may or may n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:33 PM
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yes I used a colloquialism to represent a more complex phenomenon. what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:22 PM
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just curious are you ASD?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:41 PM
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women have some kind of spidey sense for when another woman is a cheat or a user. if one of my sisters had an issue with a girlfriend of mine id pay attention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:56 AM
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it means they have legal recourse if they're treated abusively, not to mention the option for divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:55 AM
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99% of the time the marriage moves them to countries that treat women better. for those women, getting out of Somalia or the Philippines or wherever is worth putting up with an old man for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:08 AM
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ehhh... I've seen women get really protective of male relatives. like if her brother is dating a gold digger or bitch. but there has to be a previously established relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:05 AM
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If anyone's getting exploited in that situation it's the men. at least most of the time, and they willingly walk into those scenarios. those girls (and their kids) make out like bandits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:59 AM
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probably exclusively a big city coastal phenomenon, but that's also where most news outlets operate out of
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:28 PM
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yes that's what I'd tell a bitch who was making a big deal out of a dude striking up a conversation, it's juvenile and ugly behavior. what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:05 PM
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It's not a "low value" thing, stop trying to hawk your victim narrative. it's a "human experience" thing. we all have dealt with it and we all will deal with it again. if you fall to pieces and declare your life ruined because someone talks shit about you you need to examine your life and learn how to cope with hardship. if explaining that is "doubling down" then so be it. own your shit and be a grown-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 09:02 PM
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what? this was my only comment. as I've said before in other threads on this topic: if you can't navigate having some bitchy woman with an axe to grind talking shit without having your life ruined you probably should avoid social interactions generally, because it is 100% guaranteed to happen to everyone at some point in their lives. that's a big reason we develop social skills as we grow up: to handle confrontations and backstabby situations like that with as much grace as possible. If having a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:08 PM
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I have yet to see any guy have his life fucked up for "striking up conversation." the worst thing that could come of that is being laughed off or called a creep. that's the cost of doing business, so to speak, ain't a guy in the world who hasn't dealt with a bitchy girl. if thats enough to fuck up your life then your life is incredibly fragile and you should probably avoid social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:50 PM
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sooner or later being a total scumbag will catch up with you either in the form of legal troubles or family troubles. most of the unapologetic players I knew from a few years ago are shelling out for child support now. but being a self-righteous morality police officer won't get you far either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:24 PM
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clearly you acknowledge it's not as simple as your original claim. there is a back and forth of displays
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:22 PM
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there's definitely overlap, but in 2018 you can get away with shit tier social skills if you're smart or skilled in other ways. computers, for example. and it just so happens that personality types that tend toward awkwardness and introversion also tend toward an interest in science and math and "systems" more broadly. an awkward ASD guy who's a whiz at computers will probably never be a director or even middle manager but he can do really well for himself financially without ever having to go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 03:09 PM
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Males display, and females select from the males displaying. It’s about as true for humans as it is most animals. Not sure I buy this. Women are the ones out there injecting fat into their asses and getting extensions and spending untold money and hours on their clothes and makeup. if that's not a display I don't know what is. compare that to guys who have one shitty picture from 3 years ago with his ex cropped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:04 PM
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We are back to a neurotic uptight sterile puritan society thanks to political correctness, micro aggression sensitivities, and an attempt to push maturity stages further out, among other things. the parts of the country that export that kind of shit never stopped being puritanical. east coast NYT whiteys with generational guilt and sticks up their asses. down in the SW where we have more mexican influence nobody's ever heard of a microaggression. I hadn't until reddit. try that shit here and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 09:51 AM
3

breadwinner wives
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:15 PM
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the census bureau
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 04:27 PM
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maybe. I think it's one of the hardest traits to improve and measure, so the systematizers of reddit would rather ignore it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:58 PM
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Very few people on this site understand charm and charisma... it can override most other "unattractive" traits and make decent prospects who lack it look boring by comparison. it's an Xfactor in dating. it's why some "losers" get way more ass than guys who seemingly do everything right but lack social skills. nobody wants to be bored or feel awkward around their partner, especially women. in my opinion socially awkward and embarrassing is the worst thing you can be as a man, it renders all of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:47 PM
5

you have a 25% chance of winning the lottery? I've been doing it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:35 PM
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So in order to critique western feminism one has to delegitimize the entire global women's rights movement? that's some intense gatekeeping. have you ever been to a third world country?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:37 AM
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Or reliving a formative fantasy of their old high school buddy's hot mom from back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:33 AM
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I think for women this is probably a "watch what they do, not what they say" kind of issue because a lot of young guys especially will run scared from that girl when they find her. In theory I love a chick who puts out freely and often, but in reality the easier she makes it the quicker I get bored. And when I was young I blew several promising leads because she was sexually open and forward and I panicked. we like to think we're simpler than we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 03:24 AM
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in order to understand the average statistics you have to understand the average person: they struggle, at least occasionally, to make ends meet and can't afford services to help when things go tits up. basement's flooding, kid's sick, parents are getting older and dying, someone lost their job... average people have to handle that with minimal professional help. the stress that causes inevitably wears down their relationship with their spouse, since that's the person you generally see and inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:39 PM
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Just keep human nature in mind: people, in this case women, who are paid more will generally be more vocal about it than those who are paid less. people love to brag, it's human nature. that's why any time you see a post on reddit pertaining to salary you'll see a lot more people talking about how they make 6 figures than people talking about how they make $50k even though, statistically speaking, there are a lot more people making $50k than 6 figures. people who feel their salary doesn't reflec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:51 PM
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if you believe a government can forcibly change basic human nature on an individual level you have a lot more faith in government ideology as an abstract principle than any political or civics expert I know of. It's not a question of resources. that isn't that far in the past... women have been consistently earning their own salaries for about 50 years, salaries only existed as a reasonable expectation for average american men for about 30 years before that. feminism's followed very quickly on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:54 PM
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I would argue that this is, at least in part, because feminists are not actually that interested in corrected this imbalance, despite what they say. Why is that a statement on their sincerity? lots of people have tried very hard to do things that ultimately proved impossible. Feminism's inability to change the way attraction works on a fundamental level doesn't necessarily mean they're somehow talking out of both sides of their mouth or not really trying, could be the task is impossible. It's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:48 PM
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a bit extra in the coin pouch. you knew what all the male and female programmers at your company were making? either you're HR or making a sweeping generalization based on information you knew about yourself and a small handful of your coworkers. I've never worked at an company with the kind of pay transparency that would be necessary for you to be able to say accurately that women programmers get paid more than you and your male counterparts at those companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:25 PM
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yeah now that's fucked up. does he have any options? at least in the US he might have some recourse in civil court.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:29 PM
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I didn't claim otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:38 AM
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here I thought it was 'gullible,' chief
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:34 AM
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obviously. I just curious what theories his little hamster will generate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:28 AM
2

80% of men's photos. on okcupid. 10 years ago. judged by women who have never met those guys in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:27 AM
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it's not especially "fucked up," it's the same shit jealous chicks have been doing forever. a different version of the same shit jealous co-workers will do. jealous exes. It's annoying, it's not fun to deal with, but we all encounter jealous assholes at some point and they only have power if you lose your shit over it and react the way they want you to. I can't bring myself to be angry over some chicks petty bullshit. when she goes to the police and he gets charged I'll get angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:15 AM
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I have navigated my entire life of drunk fucking so far, it's not hard to tell when someone (including myself) is overserved so what is your story supposed to be evidence of other than that your friend fucked a chick who turned out to have an axe to grind? I was expecting a "an then his life was ruined he's in jail now" ending. sounds like his life hasn't been affected at all. just some slit talking shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:11 AM
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7 partners including long term relationships and marriages doesn't sound like proof of a sexless life to me. now if you told me the average was 1 and men were all forced to marry her first you might have me. but an average of 7 which includes all those guys who do marry their first sounds like dudes are doing alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:09 AM
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where's your evidence that an average man is having once every 5 months starfish sex? reddit sadsacks?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:09 AM
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it is when you consider that those 7 partners aren't spread out over a lifetime of desperate dry spells. for most guys there are long-term relationships sprinkled in between
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:07 AM
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I didn't. as long as you're not fugly you can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:05 AM
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So how is a guy like that able to "get that under control"? The same way people have been getting insecurities and mental scars under control forever. introspection and practice. Yet you expect a guy who ALREADY got the shaft to be able to pull himself by his bootstraps. I don't expect anything, nor do I care. If someone refuses to work on the social phobias that make dating difficult there's nothing to be done but for that person to have a difficult dating life. I'd say if a guy's been bullied …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:05 AM
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I doubt they'd go so far as to falsely file rape charges to the police. a he-said-she-said police report with no evidence to back it up is worth about as much as the paper it's written on. I think the girl he mentioned was blowing smoke to get him worked up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:30 PM
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sack up and stop being anxious are girls. don't be a dumbass. don't shit where you eat. I don't plan to quit having drunk sex anytime soon, but drunk sex and blacked-out-slurring sex are too different things. guys who are too consumed by anxiety to ask a chick out are best served to work out their anxiety before they try and get it in with anyone. did your friend get criminal charges brought against him? did she take him to court? I'm curious you never answered my q
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:28 PM
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I'm a short with a body by tacos and last I checked I do fine. chicks aren't as picky as they want you to think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:23 PM
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I'm sure there's supposed to be a 'gotcha' in there somewhere but I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:21 PM
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its evidence that the 'average man' isn't too unattractive to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:19 PM
0

I lol'd
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:19 PM
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what was the result of that? was he brought up on criminal charges? did she file a civil suit? sounds like a jealous chick talking shit. jealous people with axes to grind have always dogged successful, enviable people. if the idea of dealing with the occasional jealous asshole trying to bring you down gives you anxiety I suggest you never pursue success in any form.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:25 PM
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the average guy has around ~7 lifetime sexual partners, which breaks down, for most, to a handful of long term partners and a handful of hookups. the average guy also has a job and responsibilities and obligations and can't pour untold amounts of energy into crushing puss. all that considered that number tells me average guys must not be as unattractive as OkCupid study devotees would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:21 PM
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literal SUPERMAN has millions of dollars and is a target for exploitation, like every other celebrity. not something for an average schmuck to lose sleep over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:15 PM
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people only get old references on here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:06 PM
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that's why the state demands that poor mothers sue for child support and garnishes it to pay itself back if the mother is receiving benefits mothers who can afford the kid often don't go after the father for child support because it's a huge pain in the ass and they prefer to work it out outside of court. less than half of custodial mothers receive any kind of child support at all and the vast, vast majority are on benefits and having it garnered anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:04 PM
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It's the extroverted, laid back guys who go home with girls. the ones who are comfortable being around girls in the first place. "what if she calls me a creep and I'm a social pariah forever" isn't a scenario that crosses their minds. I didn't even realize there were guys who thought like that until I found this sub, tbh. the dude sitting at home terrified thinking about how hot Becky is but terrified she'll call him creepy if he asks her out is a high-anxiety introvert, probably with a history …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 12:56 PM
3

want them to be a bigger one?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 12:26 PM
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as a taxpayer I don't consent to paying for another guy's child support because he didn't want a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 08:59 PM
11

shit, even pulling out is more effective than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:01 PM
2

a lot of couples also dont want or can't afford a disabled kid
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 05:00 PM
2

doubt it, I've known several
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:23 PM
1

yeah that's definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:08 PM
3

long-term monogamy and it's codification (marriage in it's various iterarions) only happened after the development of agriculture, but people still paired off to have and raise young children. they had to, kids are resource-intensive and men aren't naturally inclined to invest in other men's children or a woman who isn't sexually exclusive to them. that doesn't mean either parent didn't have previous partners or won't have future partners (that expectation, to your point, isn't natural and came …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:54 AM
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45-60 y/o women are disproportionately killing themselves, per the report. unless it's grandkids I don't think many of them are caring for toddlers, but they are at the age where care for older children (including ones who ought to be self-sufficient) and aging parents intersect. thats uniquely difficult. many people are living longer and healthier, sure, but a ton (especially poor and working class people in the US) are growing older with obesity and attendant conditions. they need a lot of car…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:19 AM
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every male that dies decreases the likelihood that those babies will survive. a lot of resources need to be invested into baby humans they take a long, long time to be self sufficient and need a ton of care and protection. that's to say nothing of how many nutrients pregnant women need or how physically vulnerable they are in the third trimester. kill off half the adult men in your tribe and you're not going to be able to successfully raise many babies anyway even if every woman is impregnated. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:10 AM
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people are living much longer, often in ailing health, which puts more strain on their middle aged children, especially daughters. on the same token young adult children are more dependent on their parents than ever, especially mothers. it all adds up to a much larger caregiving burden for middle-aged women who, at least as far as I've seen, end up neglecting their own health or self-medicating with booze.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:59 AM
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a lot of 20-30-somethings are dying of overdoses in rural areas. early death of a child can absolutely drive a person (mother or father) to eventually kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:47 AM
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is that something that affected 45-60 year olds, though? that's baby boomer territory I know a lot of them delayed having kids but not to the extent women now do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:44 AM
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Eh, I live like a man in a hot woman's body You're INTJ so I believe you, however the giant majority of women aren't satisfied with gang banging chads for long it was a joke, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:37 AM
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sure, but there need to be extenuating circumstances beyond a simple overdose for authorities to count it as a suicide in statistics like this. the person's family may think differently but an addict dying of an overdose isn't something that warrants much thought from a coroner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:35 AM
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what the deceased's family thinks doesn't affect how it's officially recorded and counted in studies like this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:34 AM
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it's not affecting women more than men. the rate of increase for male suicide rose less than it did for women, but it still rose and increased by more total fatalities. female suicide (by my math) went from 6 to 9 per 100,000 while male went from 21 to 25. as for things that affect women specifically in this equation, to hazard a guess: single parenting and an attendant lack of savings, children dying of overdoses, long-term caregiving for disabled/addicted/alcoholic relatives
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:33 AM
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I think overdoses are usually ruled accidental
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:28 AM
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I'd imagine increased rates of alcohol and other substance abuse, the desolation of rural communities by a changing economy that has been pushing out the working class for decades, and feelings of worthlessness caused by a culture steeped in social media "highlight reels" all play significant roles. just a guess though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:05 AM
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Depends on the person. I had an ex some years ago who couldn't take no for an answer. she'd inundate me with texts if I didn't want to listen in person, and this was back when that shit wasn't unlimited. she tried to turn every answer that she didn't like into an hours long debate. we weren't especially serious (dating for a few months, but more "serious" territory than I'm used to or would have liked) and at the end of the day cutting her off made more of a statement than attempting to explain …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:47 AM
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maybe annoyed, I can't buy 'violated' unless he's being pushy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:08 PM
2

I don't think they give nearly as many fucks as you think. I doubt they even remember the guy 30 minutes later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:56 PM
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I think to some extent everyone does a bit less as they age. you're so head over heels as a teenager, you do a promposal and you wait for sex to make it "special" or whatever... then you realize that's bullshit. it's not necessary. if a chick my age, at 28, expected an over the top Valentine's day treatment from me I wouldn't want to date her. I'd say we're incompatible. I did that once before for a girlfriend when I was 19 because I didn't know better, I bought into the marketing scheme. It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:25 PM
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yeh AFAIK their data is proprietary, they conduct all their own research with it. this was 3rd party.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:12 PM
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well the website was seekingarrangement so it seems to me the totally-not-prostitutes on that site just assume those guys at the peak of their careers have the most money
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:40 PM
2

...men are getting gangbanged where you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:35 PM
2

yeh, parents nowadays are raising a generation of pussies who call AAA instead of changing their own tires.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:33 PM
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all caps HATE? that hasn't been my experience. those guys just don't get the time of day, they don't register on her radar. the percentage of women who will get offended at an unattractive dude for approaching her and react accordingly is pretty small. It's our male ego that equates not registering with some kind of abject hatred or insult, because that's how it feels on our end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:30 PM
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none of them will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:27 PM
3

except in the case of back taxes you're just compelled to pay what you owe. you have to knowingly and willfully avoid the IRS for a long time to incur punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:22 AM
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If every short dude was charming and good looking enough to be a professional actor their height would never be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:10 AM
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hookups turn into relationships all the time. in the real world guys don't have these sorts of extreme purity hangups and women don't have gangbangs that would make a pornstar blush in their pasts. everyone has a past, sure, but 99% of the time it's 2 or 3 terrible post-breakup drunken hookups and maybe a relationship or two. nobody's having amazing pornstar sex during one night stands, they're fumbling around nauseously trying to get rid of the spins. but a lot of times you wake up, laugh about…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 09:08 PM
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we live in a society that places high value on freedom and independence and individual sovereignty, so I'm not sure many people would agree with you that an abject lack of all of those things is 'neither good nor bad' for the person in question. their well being essentially boils down to luck of the draw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 01:59 PM
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the 100's was the Roman empire and most of Europe was tribal, and Roman society offered quite a bit of choice for male citizens. there were classes, of course, but they weren't as rigid as earlier societies. even (male) slaves could earn their freedom. the 500's is getting into the dark ages throughout most of europe. everyone's labor was owned by a lord. your description is pretty accurate for this time in history. the 1500's had a decent amount of options. soldiering, as you said, or adventure…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 01:52 PM
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I'm not exactly tuned in but I feel like I hear an awful lot about the evils of complicit middle class white women from the feminist peanut gallery
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 01:26 AM
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But what you believe is a choice. People leave religions, change their religion, and/or accept unorthodox doctrines pretty frequently. Deeply religious people would disagree with this argument. Then in that situation the man is responsible, but that situation introduces an element of nonconsent. I'm saying that consensual sex of any type, including sex-that-is-likely-to-result-in-pregnancy, cannot be treated as binding consent to parenthood, irrespective of the sex of the partner. You have not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:56 PM
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Yeah, but that doesn't contradict the fact that her religious views are a matter of her free choice. Indeed the entire point of religious freedom is that religion is a personal matter. So why do you care if it's a choice? Believing abortion is a mortal sin means it's not an option. Rare doesn't mean irrelevant. You're trying to marginalize the issue. I'm trying to keep the conversation grounded in reality. No, that's a bilateral choice (since women must consent to unprotected sex as well) Really…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:27 AM
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Also, if a woman is an adult, her religious views are a matter of her own free choice. In the US religious views are constitutionally protected. Whether or not that is a choice has no bearing on this fact. For one, Spermjacking is things like contraception sabotage or lying about being on the pill etc. sure. edge cases but legally valid grounds for a lawsuit. For two, the simple fact of the matter is she has a legally protected right to decide whether or not the fetus is born. She chooses if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 10:11 AM
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bullshit, i'm poor as fuck and need to lose 20 lbs and I do just fine. guys who can't find anyone to fuck them are a small minority and I personally suspect the large majority of them have mental health and/or socialization issues. those are guys who will fail to launch in damn near any environment but even they are living in unprecedentedly good times. A truly statistically average guy loses his virginity at age 17 and has about 7 lifetime partners. he's not doing bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 09:37 AM
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the internet. hookup culture. destigmatization of premarital sex. acceptance and availability of alcohol. relative unpopularity of marriage. compare that to literally any other time in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:42 AM
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'more exhausting than ever?' lmao homie it's easier than ever, but even still men aren't the mindless sex fiends always desperate for a lay that this kid insinuates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 08:36 AM
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When baby boomers were between the ages of 18 and 29, 47% of them thought that sex before marriage was just fine. When Generation Xers were in the same age range, 50% said it didn't bother them. And by the time millennials were in their late teens and 20s, 62% said premarital sex was OK. Saying something's ok when asked on a survey ("I don't judge it") and engaging in that behavior are two different things entirely. we have the internet and videogames and Netflix and free on-demand porn to distr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:46 AM
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or non-autistic man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:40 AM
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I assume you're a teenager but there will come a time when you're often too exhausted to chase tail and would rather jerk off that night and get your time back. if there's anything experience has taught me it's that most broads aren't worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:38 AM
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Not everybody is in the US. Who cares about backwater countries? Surely if we can prove other kinds of fraud beyond reasonable doubt, we can prove this kind of fraud beyond reasonable doubt. Certainly, but it is a long, drawn out, and financially draining process that is usually only worth the state's time and effort if large amounts of money is involved. most fraud is handled in civil courts where private citizens take on those costs themselves. Not to mention, malicious false rape accusations …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:26 AM
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Routine DNA testing at birth (or at least deregulate it so it becomes very cheap and accessible). what regulations? a paternity test costs $15-$20 in the US. you can go to LabCorp or wherever or mail-order. shit, AFAIK you can get one from amazon. the only legal limitations, IIRC, are that you have to do it within 3 years (again, IIRC) of the kid being born. that's a generous time period. if you wait until Junior's 12 to shell out for that $20 test, well, that's on you. Shared parenting as the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 03:21 PM
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this is right-wing mythology. those programs were done away with by welfare reform in 1996. "welfare" is quite difficult to get and comes with strings attached (under threat of felony) even when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 03:01 PM
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isn't MILF a schoolboy fantasy kind of concept where the viewer takes on the role of someone her kid's age? a 33-year-old could very easily be an 15-year-old's mom... that doesn't seem abnormally young for a MILF, it's bang on actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 11:08 PM
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a very small number of rapes are committed every year, and even bumping up the % of accusations that are false (assuming it's higher than the 2-10% estimate, even putting it at 20% for arguments sake) it's a fragment of an already vanishingly small number. these things just cause a lot of outrage and get a lot of press coverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:32 PM
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I disagree, the civil deterrent seems to work very well. we're talking a tiny number of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:11 PM
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he said/she said cases are much harder to prove than physical crimes, which is why most are considered civil matters. and yes it's well-known most people don't rape. the deterrent works. most people also don't accuse others of rape falsely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 07:54 PM
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in many if not most cases it's incredibly difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone made something up so it's not usually worth pursuing and dealing with the appeals process from a law enforcement perspective. I'd think the risk of the accused going after you for all you're worth is a pretty good deterrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 07:36 PM
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who's apologizing for them? I'm explaining why many people are hesitant to report sex crimes, not apologizing for people who make shit up. I'd hope and assume most of those people get slander and/or libel cases thrown their way in civil court.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:56 PM
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people feel shame about certain (or all) sexual acts, that's the difference. not everyone feels the same degree of shame. I'm sure some feel no shame at all but generally speaking, in our society, sex (especially promiscuous sex, and even more especially kinky acts) is still a somewhat shameful, taboo topic. I'm sure it'd be shameful to be accused of making up, say, a robbery but in a different, less viscerally offensive and stigmatized way. I'd much rather be accused of making up a story that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:25 PM
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being called a false accuser implies either that the encounter was consensual or that the accuser is a liar. by accusing someone of rape you are putting yourself out there as a potential slut/deviant/liar in a way that people accusing someone of a less personal crime are not. recommending security measures is very different than implying you wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 06:06 PM
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Why is rape the only crime that people complain about not reporting for fear of being labelled a false accuser? That can be said of any crime. because rape is one of the most difficult crimes to prove one way or another, and it's one of the few that reflects very strongly on the accuser. Male victims are notorioysly hesitant to report rapes for similar reasons, it casts the victim in a deeply unflattering light no matter how you slice it. "maybe he just regrets getting assfucked." by comparison …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:17 PM
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I personally treat shady characters with the same suspicion regardless of race but I don't have a moral issue with it. I couldn't care less if someone is more suspicious of shady black guys than shady white guys. I'm not sure how I can be clearer with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:35 AM
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yes, but that's obese (BMI 30+) and doesnt count just overweight (BMI 25-30.) overall it's about 2/3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:30 AM
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anxious attachment styles are brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:31 AM
1

what exactly would pulling up a picture of an average-looking broad accomplish besides giving you something to emotionally react to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:29 AM
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wrong, the stat I'm referring to is 20-39 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 03:19 AM
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...did I stutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:58 AM
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homie I got some bad news for you most women are overweight (in some areas significantly so) and therefore an average girl will be at least somewhat overweight in the United States. this is regardless of how you or I or anyone else feels about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:49 AM
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I wouldn't because i value my life and my shit and suspicious behavior is suspicious behavior, but other people can judge however they want. its their loss if they assume white people are harmless and some tweaker grabs their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:10 AM
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and in the example the guy isn't just being judged on his gender he's being judged by the fact that he's going into the women's bathroom. it's gender + behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:19 AM
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without taking any other attributes into consideration race is a terrible indicator of a person's nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:09 PM
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that's not the point I'm making, though. my point wasn't "if a guy gets the opportunity to cheat he'll take it," it was that on some level were programmed to seek variety. an opportunity to cheat is always a temptation for a guy and we can either overcome it or not. Morally speaking you'd never cheat on your girl ok sure but your dick is gonna try to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:07 PM
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I think this is all beside the point, and a conversation for another post. these aren't strong or even normal guys putting on a show of pussydom to get a girl, theyre just pussies. if anything they're being themselves to get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:04 PM
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Ever notice how many nice guys are around? They're trying to treat women how they want to be treated but it doesn't work. nah, they're just being pussies. they're scared they'll get rejected if they ask a chick out so they puppy dog around hoping she'll fall on their dick someday. "but my mom said to just be nice" is a convenient excuse. Men will do just about anything for women's love, including becoming doormats and self sacrifice. Those men aren't becoming doormats for women, they're just doo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:03 AM
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it comes from anxious men who blow their chances with chicks early on by getting overly attached projecting themselves onto "men" as a population and a concept and rationalizing that they, therefor, must be perfectly and completely normal. any guy who's ever gotten a legitimate shot at cheating (and whether he took it or not he was tempted) knows that's some bullshit. females cheat too but damn lol were not exactly virtuous as a group we're bad at resisting some strange
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:47 AM
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yes in "the west." all the rationalizing in the world doesn't change market economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 02:38 PM
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You are wildly underestimating how much being a dweeb is detracting from your attractiveness. nobody gives a rats ass what your body fat percentage is. if you were a 7 you'd be fucking 7's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 01:30 PM
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Every guy needs to be attracted to his partner, so she needs to fit his particular definition of "hot." beyond that it depends on the guy. some wife up strippers, some go for the cutie with a master's degree and a small business, some marry the chick they dated in high school. no hard and fast rules beyond "has to be attractive." as for how they meet those girls the ways and means are just as diverse. Christmas parties, business mixers, clubs, matchmakers, there's a gamut
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:48 PM
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From a legal perspective it's about determining who's a danger to society and who just fucked up this one time. Anyone can get in a bad situation and make a mistake especially when they're young and dumb and the law recognizes that. That's why you can often get a first time offense expunged if you haven't offended again in a certain time frame. From a societal standpoint a guy who broke the law one time, learned from his mistake, and never did it again is not a risk, at least not generally after…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:29 PM
2

because you're still very upset, it would appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:48 PM
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it doesn't represent you. you are not an incel. I get it, you're not One of Those™
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:40 PM
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it's sourced from the forum put forth to represent the group and host related conversations. settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:34 PM
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why would I seek out information about MGTOW "beliefs?" I dont care. sorry, boyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:23 PM
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everything I've seen on the MGTOW sub and your furious hamstering over this. column A/column B.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:11 PM
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of course that doesn't apply to every single one, just a significant majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:08 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed playboys, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:02 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed playboys, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:42 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed playboys, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:36 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed playboys, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:35 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed playboys, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:29 PM
1

it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's. they aren't temporarily embarrassed Playboy's, they're guys who have been rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:28 PM
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how exactly did 'women' dismantle it? women by and large want kids, and they pair with the men available to them. and numbers and populations being what they are, some of those women-- quite a few-- are going to end up with men who aren't father material. technology has enabled childlike behaviors from both genders. but the fact is your initial claim is wrong. Most little girls aren't born with fathers who work themselves to death for them. Most little girls are lacking a positive male influence…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:26 PM
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how exactly did 'women' dismantle it? women by and large want kids, and they pair with the men available to them. and numbers and populations being what they are, some of those women-- quite a few-- are going to end up with men who aren't father material. technology has enabled childlike behaviors from both genders. but the fact is your initial claim is wrong. Most little girls aren't born with fathers who work themselves to death for them. Most little girls are lacking in positive make influenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:26 PM
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it's quarantined but last I checked (a few seconds ago) very active. they should like being quarantined, they always talk of wanting people to leave them alone Occam's razor is very useful, you seem to be in denial about the nature of MGTOW's
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:20 PM
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didn't the incels go to braincels? thats still around. Occam's razor says a lot of MGTOWs are just AKA incels with a dash of denial. the casual observer has nothing else to judge off of... they're not going to go sleuthing to find other, better mgtow subs. they're going to see all the raging toxicity and infighting and posting of clickbait daily mail articles and write those guys off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:17 PM
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where do you live where fathers work (at all let alone 'to death') to support their kids? my sisters didn't have one. I didn't have one. none of my friends did either. 50% of kids don't even have a father present, and that's not counting the ones who are technically around but are addicts or deadbeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:15 PM
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If you go over to the MGTOW sub, which is really the main way that the group is presented to the world, you will see page after page of revenge fantasies and clickbait articles ("mom of 3 abandons her kids! see? women are terrible parents!") and comics edited to fit the content. I've even seen onion comics posted in earnest. you don't come off like a particularly analytical or "with it" group of guys with your shit together, you come off as bitter guys dealing with social rejection through denia…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:08 PM
4

what's an influencer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:01 PM
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What does it matter if someone is trained or trainable if they fail a drug test? if they have a rapsheet? it doesn't. it is incredibly difficult to find sober people willing to work among the unemployed working class population. I have been on the other side of this. Heroin is an opioid. it's what people are overdosing on. and run a search on alcohol abuse among middle-aged white adults and you'll find a great deal of results. Don't count on the media for accurate reporting. the largest cause of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:19 PM
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what you're saying doesn't make sense. men also can and do fuck whatever comes along all the time, and neither will have much luck fucking an inaccessible person. if my girlfriend's hotter friend is into me I have a ton of leverage, you're acting as if that never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:17 PM
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rural America
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:12 PM
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women who marry for money earn every cent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:11 PM
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they also resent that they'll never have absolute 100% security in their relationships and completely rid themselves of the risk that they might get their heart broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:09 PM
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men trade up all the time. girlfriend got fat but her friend still cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:07 PM
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sobriety and hireability directly affect labor supply. directly. if the people available for hire aren't sober, have felony records, have records of past drug offenses very few employers will count them among their labor supply. period. Someone who fails a drug test or shows up buzzed to an interview (very very common) is a danger to himself and other existing employees. I have experienced this phenomenon first hand. working class men in middle america, increasingly, are not sober. I'm not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:52 AM
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bitches love me so much it would be selfish of me to give it all to one girl. I believe in sharing the wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:16 PM
0

eh 20 is the older end of normal. it's not weird to hear of someone who lost their virginity in their early 20's because they were focused on school or whatever. plenty of otherwise normal people are virgins at that age because they don't want to lose it to a rando and haven't met the right person or don't have time for a relationship. it starts to get weird around 23 or 24 I think. people who are virgins at that age are virgins for a reason... usually mental or social hangups, but you have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:12 PM
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I promise you, it has everything to do with sobriety and hireability. the EU doesn't have as many mining and manufacturing jobs as the US. 3.6/100000 is vanishingly rare. I'd take those odds all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 03:47 PM
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If that was the case then explain why companies are having trouble hiring for such positions then? lack of sobriety and criminal records among working class men, stigma among middle class men (although that's changing) Too bad that's false. Have you even looked up the numbers or are you spewing talking points? I have I just literally disproved that. No you didn't, those numbers are very very low. there are hundreds of millions of people working and even the most common causes of workplace deaths…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 03:02 PM
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most chicks on tinder aren't looking for a quick hookup, they're looking for validation and compliments. it must be pretty cool to know that complete strangers who you'll never meet and who you have no intention of even dignifying with a response think youre attractive. talk about a pick-me-up, damn. sex before marriage is the norm, but most sex happens between people in committed relationships. I'd guess most people have some hookup experience but it's usually something like "yeah I had two one…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:20 PM
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Despite it doesn't. And men take those jobs as they have limited choices when they don't have a college degree something a lot of men today lack. I assure you plenty of men take those jobs because they are better than the jobs they could get even with a degree. an English major is going to struggle mightily to make more than an electrician. and a guy without a degree will choose electrical work if he is able and has a clean record over, say, working at a gas station any day. those guys do well f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:16 PM
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read again, friendo. what I'm asking is what is meant by "non-hypergamous woman." the definition I have heard from this sub is so broad as to encompass all of human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:09 PM
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what does "hypergamous" mean, exactly? the only definitions I've heard from the peanut gallery on this sub apply equally to men and women. namely, the desire for the best possible mate. I'll tell you, we do that as much as women. guys leave their girlfriends for a younger, hotter or just more compatible option all the time. ever dated a chick you realized was kind of a bitch? ever left her when you realized her friend was much cooler and less condescending and actually fun to be around with your…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:03 PM
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I am. men choose laborious jobs because the pay is better. That's a very different concept than 'female privilege.' Men also pick such jobs as like with women they are "restricted" in what kind of job they can get. For example men will have a hell of a time getting into any female dominated job no matter what. Where was women will have a hell of a time getting into trades. The reasons are often not the same for both. Who cares? the trades pay better. the jobs women can get without a degree pale …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 01:33 PM
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Men also want their attention. But that doesn't mean attractive women here aren't privilege. If we're talking attractive people privilege we're getting somewhere. attractive people absolutely have privilege. Would more say for the OP it may be local than anything else. As depending on where they live the only jobs available to him is such jobs. It might be regional, but there's always non-physical jobs. you can always work at a gas station or burger king. men choose laborious jobs because the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:35 PM
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Also, I think you're confused. It's not socially acceptable for anyone to beat up anyone, regardless if they are strong or weak. Bullshit, two guys fighting isn't stigmatized. go to any biker bar on a Saturday night and you'll see it, cops don't even get called If a girl was rich she would care more about looks than wealth in a partner, because she doesn't need more money. says who? It's primarily middle and lower class women engaging in hypergamy. I'm working class, our women aren't marrying up…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:22 AM
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thats a bad example but the key is that value is defined by the market. it's not innate. an apple doesn't have a "natural" or set value. whole foods could sell the exact same apples as Walmart for 3x the price and people would buy it, so that is the value of that apple at whole foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:26 PM
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so in the one hand you want to take biology out of the equation, but then make a bunch of points that boil down to biology. most of your sexism argument is nonsensical. I did not grow up with any messaging about the superiority of women, nor did my sisters get any free shit for "batting an eyelash." if they threw tantrums they got their asses beat. women who get free shit don't do so because of any innate privilege, they do so because their boyfriends/admirers want to signal wealth and status. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:29 PM
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you wouldn't be able to walk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 09:09 PM
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the women who put themselves out there for criminal behavior specifically have all the baggage of that lifestyle. junkies, STD's, single moms, rapsheets, most of them built like minifridges (in my experience.) yes risk-taking is attractive to women but criminal risk-taking will only bag you that subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:00 PM
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you pull badly behaved women by behaving badly. if sex with any available pussy no matter what the condition is the ultimate goal then it's all gravy, but I don't suspect the "nice guy" nerds complaining that women reward bad behavior would want anything to do with the kinds of chicks that ride with gangbangers. I sold drugs for a while and I got laid a lot, but it wasn't because the "bad behavior" made me more attractive: it was because I had a hookup. I attracted junkies and lowlifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:50 PM
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are you single? if so you will inevitably be exposed to more single people through your social activities and shared interests and that will skew your perspective. couples don't party as much, they sit inside and watch netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:44 PM
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and by what metric is being a pussy ("nice guy approach") good behavior that ought to be rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:41 PM
2

I just avoid relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:21 PM
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the treatment is pretty analogous actually. women with "suboptimal strategies" are mostly invisible. they're the majority of single women who get fat, who aren't in shape, who aren't interesting, who are lousy lays, who have kids, the list goes on... they're the chicks you settle for. most people would rather be single than knowingly be settled for out of desperation but a lot of people (men and women) are unknowingly (or in denial) in exactly that position. it just looks different for men and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:19 PM
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ok but I want a hot girl who thinks like a dude. women with feminine personalities are a pain in the ass... I don't want kids, I don't want to marry you, I don't care that what your mother said made you cry, and I'm not going to guess why you're pissed this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:12 PM
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maybe it's a regional thing, "you _____ like a guy" compliments are one of my go-to tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:25 PM
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eh, it depends how you word it. if you phrase it as another way to call her ugly then yeah shell be pissed. but if it's in reference to a behavior or skill a lot of women love that. "you're like a guy with how much you talk about sports," "you're better with cars than most dudes" "you could drink me and my bros under the table" "most chicks spend a lot of time on their hair you're like a dude"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:05 PM
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I don't think it's necessarily about not wanting to get laid their hands dirty as it is that you have to really commit yourself to those fields to get the licensure you need. many hours of training and apprenticeship required, which requires commitment and sticktoitiveness. for Uber you just have to pass a background check and have a decent car and you're good, you can do as much or as little driving as you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:12 PM
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I'm not in the market for a marriage proposal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:31 PM
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it's not about hitting some magical salary it's about stability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:54 PM
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in the open? no it's quite safe, but it's a crossroads for several kinds of trafficking. you have to look for trouble to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:16 PM
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nothing will teach you humility like the fast food trenches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:15 PM
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they had surprisingly good food but always seem to get turned into a taco John's before long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:09 PM
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I think this chick is full of shit and making excuses for her continued bad decisions. she wants to live a glamorous life but doesn't want to do the work to earn it. she moved to one of the most expensive cities in the world with a pile of debt and, judging by her job choices, no skills. a personal stylist? good luck, sweetheart. she tried to take an easy way out and got played. I'm not going to say she had it coming because it's a two way street, but I'm not sure what she expected on a sugar da…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:06 PM
1

is fazolis still around?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:57 PM
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I specifically said you and your buddies not the majority of teenage guys. I don't deny your experience, dont worry. I very much believe you couldn't get laid that makes complete and total sense to me. what I don't believe is that the majority of teenage guys, like you, are virgins throughout high school. average age of virginity loss is 17 across the board with plenty of fooling around before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:46 PM
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here you go again trying to reframe bottom of the barrel as some silent majority. it's not. most of us had girlfriends in high school, most of us fucked. it was a minority of mostly nerdy and socially-challenged dudes who didn't get any action I never said I was bottom of the barrel, I said I looked like a typical teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:35 PM
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occam's razor says you and your friends were just bottom of the barrel, friendo a teenage girl being attracted to boys her age does not make her a pedophile, what are you smoking? my whole point here is chicks are attracted to guys in their general age range which gets wider with maturity. a 16-year-old girl will mostly go for 15-18 year olds, a 50-year-old woman will go for 47-55 year-olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:15 PM
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bullshit, my friends and I all lost our virginity in high school. to our female classmates. we weren't top 10% handsome motherfuckers we looked like typical gross teenagers. teenagers are horny. they fuck each other like rabbits, doesn't take much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:45 PM
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i never said they were ugly, they looked like effeminate teenagers. teenage girls were into them in droves. because teenage girls are attracted to teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:33 PM
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you've got to be shitting me. masculine for their age? 14-year-old Justin Bieber attracted all manner of teenage girls and looked like a twink. same for harry stiles or whatever his name is and don't even get me started on what asian chicks are into
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:25 PM
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incel "muh teenage cutie is some 38-year-olds sugarbaby" logic has really infected this place. did their subs get banned again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:47 PM
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no they're attracted to one direction Justin Bieber type guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:43 PM
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its normal for teenage girls are attracted to teenage boys. adult women are attracted to adult men. assuming you met your husband as an adult I wouldn't expect you'd want to bang his teenage self.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:38 AM
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do I have an ethical obligation to end things? lol no, she's a grown-up. will I probably end things because trying to keep shit casual with someone who caught feels is a pain in the ass? yes. from experience, the last thing I want is some girl crying after sex and refusing to leave my apartment. awkward all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:30 PM
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you're assuming they were strangers before said first date
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:16 PM
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I had an interesting conversation on this topic with my sister the other day. takeaway was women police each other in ways that are invisible to men. we assume women get leeway because we don't see most of the ways women bully each other. women are brutal to other women who don't ascribe to their social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:22 PM
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the question was whether or not we'd date such a woman. yes, I'd date her. you're moving the goalposts. most guys aren't desperate enough to wife up whatever chick happens to be available, that's a dangerous proposition. in order for her to become a worthwhile guy's marriage material she'd have to clean up her act and demonstrate that she has her shit together and would make a responsible partner. nobody wants to have to babysit his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:13 PM
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spiders are not humans or even closely related, whatever point youre anguishing over is irrelevant. you haven't answered any of my questions here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:51 PM
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it's hypothetical and impossible that I would wake up as a woman and live a "gender flipped" scenario and I would date such a woman, have in the past. I just won't move in with her or marry her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:48 PM
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how is that hypothetical impossible scenario relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:29 PM
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why not discuss parents love? and men will protect women they don't have children with because they are in love with them. no genetic legacy on the line. that has to be the worst analogy I've ever seen on this site and that's saying something, I will not entertain it. humans are not spiders. are you still in love with both of those women? was it unrequitted? how did you know you didn't just really like them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:27 PM
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I don't think most men in the world are on sites like reddit talking about "the 80/20 rule." that's not a comprehensive sampling of men, that's the bottom of the barrel incel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:23 PM
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I took "not in a stable place in life and all over the place" to mean mentally unstable not financially unstable. I've never met a broke girl who's life was "all over the place" who was reasoned and sober and had her shit together. maybe I'm just missing them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:20 PM
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again, bullshit. when you love someone you absolutely put their needs above your own. look at mothers who go hungry so their children can eat, men who take bullets for their girlfriends. but that doesn't make it unconditional. you seem to be struggling with what conditional and unconditional mean. Have you ever been in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 01:15 PM
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they have before and probably will again. I try to keep them at a distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:45 PM
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already have. I wouldn't marry or move in with her but crazy is my weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:28 PM
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ikiwisi, and putting that person's needs above your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:26 PM
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Whis we? Who's doing the teaching? Your mother? I was taught no such definition and my knowledge grew and evolved as I became a man. I have always known that people fall in and out of love for all kinds of reasons. yours are completely arbitrary and based on childish fairytale morality where people need a categorically legitimate reason to fall out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 08:25 PM
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bullshit. turn off the Disney channel, we are just as human as women. If love is eternal then there's nothing magical about abuse or neglect that would suddenly terminate it. it either is or it isn't, you are moralizing this fairytale concept of eternal, virtuous male love furiously
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:42 PM
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So that's a no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:42 PM
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None of the scenarios I mention are "serious abuse or neglect," but all are valid reasons to feel differently about someone and call things off. I had an ex who would lie to me about little shit. Nothing major (that I discovered) but enough to make me realize she wasn't the person I thought she was and to lose whatever love I had for her. I wasn't neglected or abused, but I consider myself justified in not wanting to waste anymore time or emotion on her bullshit. I have been in love a few times …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:38 PM
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are you their divorce lawyer? have their ex-wives confided in you? a third party family member? someone with intimate details? because it sounds like a case of taking your buddy's side
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:46 PM
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have you ever been in a long-term relationship? been dumped? gotten divorced? been blindsided? have you ever broken up with a girl? dumped her? realized you'd rather fuck her hot friend? realized shes kind of boring and preoccupied with her Instagram and doesn't even try to like any of the same shit you like? hoped your girlfriend would lose weight like she promised but realized she wasn't even trying? Realized your girlfriend was lying about something important to you? Everyone has had that mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:42 PM
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I guarantee their ex-wives would tell a very different story. Most people, if there wasn't an egregious unavoidable fault, will present themselves as victims when telling their breakup stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:27 PM
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I come from a family of females so I've heard the other "the damn dirty bastard did me wrong" side more often but it's never once made it seem that radical feminists are actually correct about a significant majority of men. it's made me realize there are 3 sides to every story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:25 PM
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im trying to, but here you are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 10:53 PM
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en masse? I don't have time for that. I point out spergy bullshit when I see it, trolling is against rules here. you do realize you're in the automod, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 10:50 PM
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these comments have no continuity and make no sense in context... is that an accusation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 10:48 PM
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I don't care what you do or believe. nobody here does. there's no 'should'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:45 PM
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what kind of question is this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:36 PM
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I think you replied to the wrong comment, boyo, I didn't say anything about all vs most women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:36 PM
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this is what happens when you don't go outside and believe everything you read on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:23 PM
2

how can you see the ball with all those tears in your eyes bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:18 PM
3

I've approached girls taller than me. you miss 100% of the shots you don't take
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 02:22 PM
1

if you've met women who don't please tell me where to find them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 02:20 PM
1

the definition you sent was an architectural feature... so I take it you agree with mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 10:13 PM
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You haven't posted anything that demonstrates you can even define what a harem is but here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 09:25 PM
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You still haven't answered it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 09:12 PM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:59 PM
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and you need to take middle school english so i guess we're equal. answer the question though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 07:41 PM
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so I'm understanding you correctly: you wouldn't call a group of concubines who are all sexually exclusive to, let's say, an unmarried prince his harem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 06:01 PM
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harems were groups of women who were sexually exclusive to one man. within that construct, there were multiple titles and designations those women could have depending on the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 05:46 PM
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By "Blues" does he mean his mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 04:24 PM
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You continue to treat bigamy and harems as interchangeable concepts when they are not. The fact remains that a man can include as many women as he wants in his household, call them what he wants, will them what he wants, and instruct his family to treat them as such. Nothing prevents this but it takes resources. Harems have always required resources. There are plenty of attorneys available to settle the claims of multiple ceremonial widows. of course someone like Hugh Hefner will have an easier …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 03:55 PM
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I've repeated this in all of my comments, you seem to be struggling with reading comprehension. not I'mt claiming those marriages were illegitimate or not enforced because they were ceremonial, I'm explaining why people are limited to one spouse in modern welfare states. that spouse is bestowed with many legal and financial benefits by the state, but if a man wants to live with additional women and call them wives and give their children his last name and allow them to inherit his wealth he can.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 02:13 PM
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You are hung up on the word 'wives' when the whole definition you're going off of is a part of a building. those harems existed in societies without state entities that granted privileges and benefits based on marriage. It was purely a ceremonial designation. You can still have as many ceremonial marriages as you want-- fundamentalist mormons and polyamorous folks do-- but you can only claim those state benefits for one spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 01:09 PM
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that's the definition you sent boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 11:11 AM
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lol Canada
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 11:11 AM
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amen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 01:51 PM
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are you referring to a harem as a physical location, then? a part of a building to house women? nothing is stopping you or anyone from building such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 01:50 PM
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all the trashy fat chicks with the tattoos and the halloween costumes really ruined it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:51 PM
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as illiterate as you are clueless, sad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:48 PM
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You are arguing in bad faith because you are construing two different concepts: having a harem and having multiple wives. if you want to debate the legal issues around bigamy by all means please do but you sound woefully ill-informed when you try to conflate it with a harem. In this thread I am discussing harems. The countries with plural marriage don't bestow the same legal and financial benefits as western countries. One man claiming multiple adult legal partners or dependents creates a sludge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:20 PM
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There's literally nothing keeping a guy from having a group of kept women, side chicks, girlfriends, fiance's, spirit wives, whatever he wants to call them except for the fact that women have no interest in it. If he can find a group of chicks who are game to be in his harem he can have at it, he just can't confer state-sanctioned benefits on them as he could a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 11:05 AM
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Do you party? Do you have extroverts in this social circle of yours? Do you and your buddies enjoy socializing for socializing's sake? Do you hang out with these male friends of yours all the time or do you go out with other people? How wide is your social network? How many of them are actively going out, getting fucked up, and meeting girls in the wild as opposed to sitting around with their thumbs up their asses browsing tinder? Do they like music and concerts? Can they get tickets to concerts…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:57 AM
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This is an insane post... If you get "raging boners" looking at Scarlett Johannsen and Margot Robbie you're 14 and somehow haven't discovered porn. And if women are out there flicking their beans to pictures of "ripped men" I'm the queen of England. Here's the thing, I have a type but i can fuck pretty much any chick if she's down and I've watched untold amounts of porn with sub-margot-robbie looking girls. shit, if they looked like her they wouldn't be doing porn would they? most of what I watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:16 AM
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what restrictions against harems? a guy can keep as many women as he wants he just can't legally marry them or claim benefits on their behalf. good luck finding chicks down for that without getting paid, though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 09:43 AM
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I believe it, and I think it's a very small percentage even of teen girls who find themselves in that situation. I also wouldn't assume it's sexual because some chicks go nuts for Taylor Swift. It's an extreme manifestation of tribal instincts. I have a friend who physically wrecks his shit when his team loses. Can't control himself... he pulled a clump of his own hair out once. I wouldn't point to him and say "see that's how guys act when their team loses" because he's the only one I know who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:29 AM
1

Why do you insist on calling my job cushy? Do you think I sit on my ass and browse Facebook while drinking green tea all day? No I think you sit on your ass all day and type code. We've established this. That I go to work with my fanny pack and my man bun on an electric scooter and that I'm some obese obnoxious guy? I have no idea what you look like, never claimed to. Haven't thought about it. If it's such a cushy job why don't you do it? There's a literal dearth of programmers & other IT worker…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:21 AM
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I don't do dates in the wining and dining sense, but I'll smoke her out if she gets pizza or chinese. then we fuck. not necessarily in that order. capital-D dates are for wife material, I'm here for the hoes ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:06 AM
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That Beatles picture has guys in it too which lends even less legitimacy to OP's peak female arousal theory. Ultimately you're talking about a very small number of people who go out of their way stalk a celebrity who is going about their daily business, usually for some sort of self-promotion ("I got a picture with Logan Paul on my Instagram, follow me!" "I fucked Britney Spears, where's my book deal?") For the vast, vast majority of teen girls and people more broadly the closest they get to a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:44 AM
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I'm exaggerating your thought process. You're the kind of person who believes people mental overworking carries a lot less risk than physical overworking. I haven't mentioned physical work once, you have. I think developers who sit in front of a screen all day have cushy jobs. to all the people like you who rage when IT services don't work but see those who build & maintain them as lesser than hobos living in the sewers. ...where have I raged? I think most developers are out of shape and have ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 12:05 AM
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hahaha... oh wow... that's like 10% of medics. The large majority of medics might pull out a splinter from a finger and give a person a shot. Most medics generally do boring paperwork & interpretation work. Not every medic works in ER, nor are they a surgeon. In my country that's the definition of medic. The guys who drive ambulances and pick up people in medical crisis and take them to the hospital. Or theyre military. Are you talking about doctors? Nurses? Also medicine is a far older job than…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 11:02 PM
2

what an odd comparison. Medics haul people out of dangerous situations and administer life support and CPR and shit. Programmers sit in front of a computer screen and push updates. Every programmer I've ever known has been a weak, nerdy, fat man with shit for brains when it comes to social situations. and I have a pretty good track record of predicting when whiny dudes on reddit are programmers because of their frustration with women and oddly specific superiority complex about their jobs and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:44 PM
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to answer your title question: the same reason teenage boys display hysterical excitement over sports or video games or wrestling or whatever the fuck. they're young and pubescent and not completely aware of/in control of their emotions and hormonal To specifically address some of your insane quotes beamed in from whatever planet you're on: when they experience sexual excitement they can't control themselves as well as men do. You're conflating being excited at a concert and being aroused, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:27 PM
2

fucking reddit and y'all's moralizing and pearl clutching. did you fuck her? make out with her? no? who gives a fuck? why bring more female drama into your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:10 PM
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I am eminently confident that I would not be proven wrong about computer programming by doing it for a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:04 PM
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yes it's an antisocial and boring occupation, but a very socially acceptable one. one of the safest, least risky fields you can go into actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:32 PM
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programming computers isn't socially unacceptable what are you on about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 11:12 AM
10

OP made himself into some particularly low-hanging fruit in this instance
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:46 AM
1

it is a meritocracy you were just chasing the wrong kind of merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 01:26 AM
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you didn't answer my question: do you think Idiocracy presents accurate genetic science? I can cut the irony in your comment with a knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 02:22 PM
10

ok let's back up... do you think Idiocracy presents accurate genetic science?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 01:46 PM
6

or more likely his genes don't express themselves in that same specific way and he's not feeble
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 01:25 PM
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tons of people are carriers for those sorts of disorders and don't know it. a woman with disorder x won't necessarily pass it on... in fact, unless her partner also has that particular disorder, she probably won't. I don't think there's anyone alive today who doesn't have any disorders in their genetic code whatsoever. even "high quality people" can and do have disabled kids. all the time. mutated genes being passed along is how evolution happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 12:40 PM
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1) genes are much more complex than you seem to think. it's not as simple as "smart parents = smart baby therefore only smart people should reproduce." 2) a physically feeble woman probably wouldn't survive pregnancy/childbirth before modern medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 12:35 PM
1

I'm 28 and I heard of her, mostly butt of jokes but still
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 12:23 AM
5

anita hill is a household name but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 11:34 PM
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it's enabled his opponents to steer the discourse away from his resume as a judge and into he-said-she-said-40-years-ago territory. even if he ultimately ends up on the supreme court that's power.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:52 PM
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most women don't have the intelligence or self-control to be manipulative. like most people generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 06:31 AM
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yeah that's a tough situation, she sounds like a cunt. time to find some younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:45 AM
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yes I addressed that. what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:29 AM
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you're giving these assholes free rent in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:27 AM
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she just knows how to get under your skin and make you feel bad, that's not the same as manipulation. women end up in abusive relationships enough to make me think men aren't totally inept when it comes to manipulation. it's all about leverage and knowing how to use someone's jealousies and insecurities to make them do what you want, that's not a gendered thing. most women don't have the intelligence or self-control to be manipulative. like most people generally. manipulation requires systematic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 01:52 AM
1

just the entirety of the userbase getting excited over dick picks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 12:29 AM
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and watching porn and seeking out photos of attractive nude men are the same... how? last I checked women's porn preferences are female-heavy. lesbians, gangbangs, all that good shit. not dick for dick's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 11:51 PM
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not like gay men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 11:42 PM
1

lower risk with a prosty than a barfly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 07:31 PM
2

...those aren't women, my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 07:26 PM
3

creatives tend to have very feminine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 06:52 PM
1

I live near a high school. I wouldn't describe those as either soft or shrimpy, though most haven't reached their full height yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 02:23 PM
2

Chris Hemsworth is more popular among the older set. I have teenage sisters, they and their friends were all about Loki in the Thor movies and they're not some weird outlier. how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 02:21 PM
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Im using the celebrities as well-known examples of a type where the fuck do you live that teenage boys are all soft? sounds like some shut-in white people shit. but anyway, I guarantee the skinny fuck who dropped out to sell pills gets more ass than the high school athlete any day of the week
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:19 PM
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high class girls and alpha dude bros sound like caricatures to me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:17 PM
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yes my dudes and I have fucked plenty such chicks, we're no alpha dudebros. soft game, smoking and talking progressive politics pays dividends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:15 PM
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the middle-aged women who read romance novels, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 12:58 PM
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I don't know, man... younger women prefer more feminine looking guys. skinny Ed Sheeran, Post Malone, Harry Styles-looking soft-jawed motherfuckers who smoke them out and talk about poetry. when they get older they get more "you gotta be a real man." this isn't Every Girl™ obviously, but definitely a trend I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 11:46 AM
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a lot of the people who are attracted to TRP seem (to me) to be anxious and have poor social skills, so they worry about how they're perceived in some oddly specific ways. I also think many of them use to see feminism and still see women as some kind of moral authority... sometimes they want approval and sometimes they flaunt disapproval.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:25 AM
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I just think it's fascinating to hear you say, on the one hand, that men can never understand the female experience (which is true) but then on the other make sweeping assumptions about the male experience. being leery of shady intoxicated dudes on public transport is not a uniquely female experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:47 PM
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unless I'm missing something OP was describing that experience as uniquely female and something men cannot relate to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:28 PM
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what's the difference between every man and any man, though? every man in the vicinity of a woman is likely stronger than her, sure, whereas only 50% of men in a vicinity are stronger than me. but any man could have a knife, any man could have a gun which completely negates my physical strength. and if some guy does try to bare fist bumrush me it's much less likely that another guy will interfere on my behalf than if I were a woman. most men (the vast majority of us who aren't violent rapists) w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:10 PM
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no, you're putting words in my mouth. if you're going to rephrase my argent at least do it in good faith. any guy could decide to start shit at any time, any guy could have a knife or gun in his pocket. a thug in a bad part of town is much more likely to be armed and more likely to start shit with me, but hes also much more likely to try and take advantage of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 02:18 PM
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I don't buy this the way you've framed it up. our lives are all dependent on the people around us opting not to be violent. I'm not a particularly muscular guy, so if someone bigger wanted to beat me up my odds aren't great. if that guy happened to have a gun it's game over. it's not just women who's.lives are contingent on strong people (who are overwhelmingly male) behaving well, that's the human condition. and women are at an advantage because we have protective instincts. if a hypothetical m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:45 PM
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I'm just posting the numbers out of curiosity, relax
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 11:09 AM
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rape is very uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:53 PM
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appropos of nothing, but because I was curious: there are roughly 150 million men in the US (a little more but I'm rounding.) 22% of the population is under 18 and 15% over 65, so I'll exclude that 37% for the sake of argument. that's 94,500,000 adult men. 96,000 accused rape cases (assuming all defendents are male and no repeat offenders) gives you a 1 in 984 chance of being accused of rape and a 1 in 12,300 chance of being falsely accused. its 57 times as likely as it is that a person will be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:44 PM
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that number is pretty useless without knowing what percent of men are accused of rape to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:21 PM
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...so roughly the top 20% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 05:22 PM
1

let me guess, California?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 12:10 PM
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You never agreed to have it. It's not your child. plenty of divorced guys out there paying for kids that they very much wanted. So is CS slavery for a child you never agreed to have. kids don't materialize out of nowhere. If they were married or otherwise agreed to have or take care of the child then they have an obligation. Otherwise no. do these guys not know where babies come from? functionally retarded? as I said I no exactly no fathers who knocked a bitch up despite taking precautions. they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 12:09 PM
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I've never met a chick here in ABQ who cares or knows anything more about that shit than passing terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 11:51 AM
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Then it has nothing to do with "those poor wittle starving babies" At least be honest and admit that you think slavery is fine as long as its men that get enslaved. how is paying for your own child slavery? Fuck outta here, slavery is involuntary. wrap it up. pull out. its never been easier to avoid knocking a bitch up. most fathers paying child support weren't shanghai'd by a one night stand who wouldn't get an abortion, they were at one point a couple with the mother and broke up or got divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 02:17 AM
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I thought the excuse of violating men's rights and throwing them in jail was "so the child doesn't starve". the state will ensure the child doesn't starve, but it will then garner child support payments to pay itself back and divert federal grant money into revenue. this prevents the mother from using it for anything unnecessary if she is also claiming state aid. Well then why is most of the CS collected for women that are perfectly able to support their children? because as a society we determi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 01:30 AM
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I've never met a single chick here in the real world who knows about let alone cares about the kind of outrage-bait oppression olympics shit that the manosphere likes to rage at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 12:43 AM
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child support is garnered to pay back the state if the mother qualifies for those programs. its very, very difficult (if you go by the statistics, near impossible) for a non-disabled childless adult to get on those programs. the state is loathe to give away taxpayer money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 12:39 AM
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I think for the average chick who was never a stunner angst about looks goes away when she has a marriage and kids. I don't think so many moms would let themselves go like they do at such young ages if looking hot was a major concern. single and childless women and moms who used to be hot seem to be the ones who cling to their looks for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 02:20 PM
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and locally they are not in other vast swaths of the US
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:12 PM
2

non-hispanic whites are 62% of the population, not a massive majority
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:51 PM
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most men are bad at detecting setup elements in photos of girls. angles/posing/hair and makeup/photoshop, you have to train yourself to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:28 PM
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so your idea of "average" in America only takes into account lily white neighborhoods that's what I figured
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:20 PM
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if you dolled up the second chick and had her post with bedroom eyes or wiped the makeup off the first chick and dropped her in a track meet they'd probably be about the same
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:17 PM
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most cities have substantial Latino and black populations, or are we back to ignoring everyone who isn't white and using gated communities to represent average America?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:14 PM
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they're sheltered in an isolated upper middle class bubble and avail themselves of all kinds of services that cater to people with more money than sense... I mean if you want to try and turn every entrepreneurial New Yorker with an innovative new way of separating rich idiots from their money into a cultural case study you're welcome to do that but you're going to get exhausted real quick. these people aren't reflective of the way the other 99.999% of the country lives and these human interest s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:07 PM
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it's not an atypical city. pretty average, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:18 PM
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whatever edgy point you're trying to make has nothing to do with these sheltered dipshits or their 2015 website
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:22 PM
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sheltered dipshits with a website from 2015, nice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:04 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:15 PM
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of course they can be there's always outliers, I'm asking if you find most of them attractive. do you think most men find women who look like this attractive? I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:14 PM
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over 40 and 50+ lbs overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:58 PM
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the average young woman where you live looks like a stock photo model? you must not live in a place with any poverty or obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:57 PM
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people on this sub take clickbait articles written by sheltered dipshits incredibly seriously. discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:53 PM
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do you find most fat, older women attractive or some? most women, statistically speaking, are both fat and older so for your claim to be true you and most men more broadly would have to find the large majority of old, fat women to be attractive. maybe most men are attracted to fat middle aged women and have kept quiet about it for all of human history, but I personally wouldn't bet on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:46 PM
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most women I see going about my daily life are old, over 40-45 judging by appearances. as a 28 year old, I am not attracted to women in that age range. additionally, most of them are significantly overweight if not obese, have short dyke haircuts, and can't be bothered to put on anything nicer than sweats. of course its their life and their prerogative, theyre free to dress and look however they like. I'm not bothered by it in the least but I do not find them attractive. this and this are what a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:30 PM
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I'm not going to read this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 09:25 PM
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what's appealing about redpill is the edgy, intentionally-offensive messaging and us-vs-them mentality. it feeds on guys' need for both a sense of superiority ("I know how women really are, I have forbidden knowledge") and a "tribe." most of the advice itself is old as dirt and everywhere you look, but the packaging makes it feel shiny and new. seeing muscley guys on every men's magazine cover and in every movie taught me that girls like fit guys, but some clearly feel that the redpill's "you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 08:11 PM
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you're illustrating my point, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 07:57 PM
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most people who are very talented in their field are never among the 10 best... I am not untalented at my job because I will never make any national "top 10 best of..." lists. and I hope you're not making the argument that the distribution of those 10 rarified individuals reflects on the motivations of the general fresh-out-of-high-school population entering that field. What are your actualization criterions? Before you inevitably jump onto child-raising, how are kids of educated single mothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 07:56 PM
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sure, but you're using salary as a gauge as to whether one actualized their mental potential which is the same trap feminists fall into. a student could be a very talented artist, or teacher, who intentionally goes into that field with that goal in mind and never make more than $40k. not every job is equally compensated but that doesn't mean those who aren't in highly-compensated fields were partiers or drifters or MRS-students in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:04 PM
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you've gone around in circles talking about MENSA and Nobel laureates but haven't backed up your actual point except that you feel it to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:29 PM
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"NotAllWomen"; "NotAllMen"; Not An Argument. Obviously, there are outliers. Obviously, if they reflected generalities, they wouldn't be called outliers. On generalities below; but I'd also like to focus on one thing: there are definitely guys who don't know what to do with their life and decided to try themselves in higher education, or even got stuffed there by their parents just because parents tried to ensure their child doesn't grow up into a complete failure; there are party boys who waste …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:18 PM
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"To find myself" rings to me like an impossibly common female response to "Why the Hell did you apply for studying in a field that you don't have any realistic plans to work in?". Marketologists who made the ad simply utilized it. And to support it... I think it's an impossibly common response from college students more broadly who aren't 100% sure what they want to pursue. I'm asking how you can be so sure that this is a female phenomenon. the existence of affirmative action does nothing to sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:05 PM
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most incels and MGTOW's claim to have tried. a MGTOW saying "I tried it and it didn't work" is as valid as a TRP guy saying "I tried it and it worked." it's an issue of ideological faith. most Christian's find that Christianity works for them. they're a part of a community that has helped them improve as members and as people. but if Christianity had all the answers we wouldn't have a booming population of atheists. certainly, to your point, many of those atheists probably never bothered to go t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:46 PM
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I don't think that, but I don't think well-socialized guys who are able to talk to girls in a normal, healthy way find their way to TRP all that often. I think incels and MGTOW's are messed up guys from messed up circumstances who make their way to certain internet communities and mess themselves up more. those communities may or may not be TRP or an offshoot of TRP, I can't claim to know, but they seem to use the same or similar jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:45 PM
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I have no doubt there are aggravating factors and I appreciate that you acknowledge them. this issue is that TRP doesn't prescribe a routine in the way bodybuilding does... it's soft-skill advice that makes a lot of assumptions and, I think, puts a lot of messed up or borderline messed up guys in a worse position than they were, which creates incels and MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:19 PM
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so your source for a claim about the aggregate internal goals of a generation of women is... a community college marketing campaign? I'm trying to get to the root of your "common knowledge." the existence of affirmative action does nothing to support your claim that women attend college to fill a quota. they go to college to study in a field. as far as I know students have no way of knowing whether or not admissions has some backroom quota associated with that field. do you think black students …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:01 PM
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I'm not talking about "women-hating-men" or "newbies" I'm talking about the massive groups of failed men that have formed over the years in the wake of TRP. MGTOW, incels, etc. hand-waving all of those men away as "not knowledgeable" will only go so far. if there's a massive group of failed body builders out there who nonetheless believe in and have coopted body-building's core tenets then you might be on to something but I haven't heard of such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:57 AM
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but none of this supports your claim that women go to college to "find themselves" or "fill a quota," just that they don't enroll in almighty STEM majors as often as men and don't earn as much, which is common knowledge. once again, you're making a hell of a claim with nothing to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:46 AM
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I struggle with this persistent claim that "it works" when groups of failed men who have bought into RP and even coopted it's jargon (incels, mgtow, etc) are growing faster than RP I could sit around and talk about how well socialism works if I live in Denmark but someone from Venezuela could poke a lot of holes in my claim
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:27 AM
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Girls go to college to "find themselves", have a wonderful time, fill the quota and reap the benefits of the scholarship that was granted to them. Guys go to college to have non-zero chance of paying back their future mortgage loan Hell of a generalization... what do you base that on besides feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:18 AM
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antidepressants are prescribed much more liberally now, and mental illness isn't as stigmatized as it once was. technology, culture and diagnostic trends probably have a lot to do with this phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:14 AM
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sure, and when it comes to porn tropes all bets are off when it comes to age. 25-year-olds play "teens" all the time while 28-year-olds play "milfs." it's all about the actress's particular look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:44 AM
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a 30-year-old woman would have to go out of her way to place herself in a 21-year-old guy's way. she'd have to intentionally decide to pursue younger men, because their paths probably wouldn't cross organically. same with a 35- or 45-year-old. that's what makes her a cougar. a 26-year-old woman, however, is more likely to live and work among younger people and encounter young college aged guys in her day to day life. there's no exact age difference where you draw the line but that's generally ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:16 AM
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MILF just means "mom I'd like to fuck" not "woman old enough to be my mom that I'd like to fuck." cougar is just a woman older than the viewer's perceived self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:01 AM
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how is it hurtful? a lot if not most 35-year-olds have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:26 AM
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why? to read your term paper? nobody cares that much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 10:14 PM
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homie you wrote a novel and I'm on my phone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 10:12 PM
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I've had girlfriends before, I just don't prefer to be in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 09:15 PM
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its all depends how old the kid who would like to fuck her is. to a 15-year-old (teenagers watch a lot of porn) a 35-year-old is mom-age. to a 25-year-old yeah not so much. but I always thought MILF's were intended as a high school boy fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 09:13 PM
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I can't imagine how you'd want to only be with one person, so it appears we are very different people at a crossroads
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 09:10 PM
0

settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 09:08 PM
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you're obviously an introvert. most people on here are. you want to minimize (online) social interaction and only focus on the prospects with the best odds of panning out. you see communication with women who don't become your girlfriend as wasted effort. effort being the key word there. extros thrive on this shit. I love flirting with women, I love teasing them and giving them shit and getting to know them. most of the time it doesn't pan out, but the will she/won't she process is energizing en…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 07:56 PM
0

of course not, RP is roleplay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 07:42 PM
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It's appealing because it plays on ingroup/outgroup think. "we have these females figured out, unlike those beta cuck manginas over there." that kind of edgy outsider us vs. them rhetoric is enough to make some followers feel successful and "enlightened" without the presence of any other success metrics. a lot of conservative rhetoric these days is very similar, which is why you see so much overlap between TRP and "own the libs" type conservative groups. it plays on disempowered men's emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:58 PM
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👌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:50 PM
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nothing to lose, I'd imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:46 PM
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...what do you think this woman is getting comeuppance for? unless I'm missing something I don't think she did anything to warrant this particular 'consequence.' from her description it sounds like she was pretty roundedly chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 10:38 PM
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they want chicks who look feminine but think and act according to masculine logic. a pretty girl who thinks and acts as bluntly and simply as a man is the dream! feminine reasoning gets bashed as petty and over-emotional all the time. and tomboys get way more respect than feminine men (pussies/faggots.) I won't even get started down that road.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 10:50 AM
0

ok, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:53 PM
2

wow you are very virtuous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:37 PM
3

neurotic for thinking 2 drunk people fucking is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 07:37 PM
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upper middle class is not and has never been the majority, although people on this sub sure seem to act like it. for most women throughout most of history being a housewife was a slog.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:13 PM
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It's always going to be be something. If compulsory modesty were enforced tomorrow women would compare who had the skinniest wrists or who bought what brand of smock or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 04:40 PM
1

I'm talking about weed, you dildo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:41 AM
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preserved their bodies neurotic nanny bullshit. a chick who exercises, has a good skin routine and wears sunscreen but has some drinks on the weekend wont look any older than she would as a teetotaller and she'll look younger than a chick who doesn't drink and doesn't wear sunscreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:38 PM
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plenty of women have ONS' but 0% are sober
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:56 PM
1

autism spectrum disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:53 PM
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are you ASD or foreign?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:51 PM
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neurotic bullshit. plenty of healthy, attractive, successful people party on weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:50 PM
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neurotic, highly inhibited, and sheltered
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:49 PM
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it's not hard to be sexually successful. sell drugs and women will throw themselves at you. bring some bottom shelf fruity shit to a college house party and I can damn near guarantee you'll get at least half a blowjob in a bathroom before the drunk bitch passes out. the people (men) driving this "you have to be this tall and good-looking and white to ride" narrative are neurotic, highly inhibited, and sheltered. they see 'sexual success' as a sober, coherent, casual encounter with a beautiful wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:12 PM
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why is everything about validation for you people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 02:11 PM
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close your computer and leave your room. stop trying to systematize your romantic life, chances are it'll make you look like a sperg. take every opportunity to be social with as many people as possible. invite people to do shit you'd normally do yourself. try some shit that attracts a lot of women... yoga feels really good and even if nothing comes of it you get to look at some prime asses for 45 minutes. don't focus all your energy on cute girls, it's too obvious. the easiest way to meet cuties…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 01:53 PM
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nah, a lot of working class folks make a lot of money. plumbers or oil field workers or sought-after hair stylists can easily pull 6 figures year to year doing shift work, but their lifestyle is still thoroughly blue collar. they're the people you see with a jacked up F150 or e-class parked outside their trailer. by comparison, a middle class guy might only make $65k at his 9-5 salaried job, but he invests it and has a rainy day fund and college fund for his kids, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 11:17 PM
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happens in the hood where half of all guys are in prison or high risk of going to prison at any given time. the only men I've ever encountered with multiple women who knew they were sharing a man (not counting guys who string multiple women along who don't know each other exists) emerged out of this exact scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 11:14 PM
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I disagree, from the values and experiences described I think theres more poorly parented WC/LMC guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 01:22 PM
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they're not necessarily UMC
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 01:14 PM
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the whole "poor people have no time" meme doesn't hold up for anyone who's actually been poor. yeah there are some poor people who work 14 hour days at 3 jobs to keep food on the table but in my experience they are 100% exclusively single moms with multiple young kids and no support network. that lifestyle will grind you to the bone and doesn't get you anywhere, it's not worth it. 1 in 100 people like that make it to manager, youre more likely to get fired for falling asleep at job #3. poor guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 01:13 PM
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so does being foreign
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 12:59 PM
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Haitians were one of the "3 H's" back in the 80's/90's that described the most at-risk populations for HIV (homosexuals and heroin users being the other 2 IIRC) I don't remember why they were specifically so high risk... tainted blood supply maybe? anyway one would assume among local demographics that black women have probably had the most sexual contact with straight Haitian (and African, for that matter) men over the last few decades. there was a decent-sized migrant flow from Haiti to Florida…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 10:24 AM
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the anthropological and archaeological record
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 01:05 PM
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and that's not to mention maternal health issues not related to age. young parents are more likely to be poor, which means they're more likely to be obese, have high cortisone levels, substance abuse issues, the whole 9 yards... speaking from experience, I don't know a single chick who got knocked up as a teenager who wasn't blacking out multiple times a week (which is usually how and why they get pregnant in the first place) and who wasn't carrying around at least 50 extra lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:35 PM
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the children of older people aren't, as an aggregate, at a genetic disadvantage... there are higher relative risks for certain disorders for an older couple having kids but the absolute risks of major disorders are still very low. the vast majority of the children of older parents grow up perfectly normal, genetically speaking, and from my experience (and I'd assume the statistics would bear this out) healthier than the children of young parents. lower incidences of drinking, smoking, obesity, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 01:45 PM
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teenage parents do more damage with horrible parenting and fucked up, immature relationships with each other and financial instability than 30-something parents do by putting them at slightly higher risk for genetic disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 12:49 PM
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I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:53 PM
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I have never once "fallen into exclusivity" with someone who I never discussed it with... what a waste. if I have an opportunity to get in another girl and we haven't agreed to be exclusive I'll be on her like white on rice and I wouldn't expect my non-exclusive lady friend to turn down dick on my accord either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:36 PM
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nah that shit's temporary. the hornier we are the lower our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:52 PM
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then they don't understand the meaning and are throwing it around to sound smarter than they are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:51 PM
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solipsism is the belief that only the self can exist, not just a lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:41 PM
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the best way to raise boys is to enable them to play and bullshit with their friends/siblings/cousins. outside. at the park. at the mall. at high school parties. around girls. mom and dad can't teach your dumbass how to flirt or get a blowjob, you have to observe older kids. a kid who relies too much on mommy's advice when it comes to social dynamics is a kid who's too damn sheltered and who's social skills will suffer the consequences. helicopter mothers produce anxious boys who worry about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:37 PM
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everyone thinks they're a better catch than they are. everyone thinks they more than make up for their faults with their good looks and sparkling personality. once you understand that you'll understand why so many people are hypocritical when it comes to dating and romantic standards. you see it more blatantly in women because of men's thirst and desperation: there might be something about a girl that is absolutely nasty and foul, but some guy somewhere (more likely 10 or 20) will tell her it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:50 AM
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...before he cheats came out 13 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:05 PM
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nobody is shaming anyone for being hurt... if any guys are being shamed it's for cropdusting vast swaths of humanity with their overemotional reaction to one person's behavior and then attempting to construct a worldview around it instead of confronting what that specific woman did and what red flags they missed. you're right in that an edgelord who fancies himself some kind of "dark triad Chad alpha" and posts a lot about it on the internet is probably, in his own passive way, seeking revenge o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 06:58 PM
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women not understanding that approaching them can induce anxiety is like men not understanding that women feel strongly compelled and pressured to wear makeup. I'll never understand that, personally, but I've heard it from enough women to believe it's A Thing. it's easy to handwave away that which you haven't personally experienced, especially when it comes to emotionally charged topics. that's not solipsism, it's a lack of perspective and empathy. that said, i think a lot of the men on this sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 06:30 PM
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why would a group who's only desire is to commiserate amongst themselves care if they get new members?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:42 AM
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again i ask: how do you, a straight man, know what young girls are rubbing off to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:55 AM
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a 45-50 year old single woman with incurable STD's who's slept with dozens of men and has adult sons living at home is almost certainly white trash and will just as certainly date a similarly low class guy. I know many such women, I assure you they're not dating the picks of the litter they're dating single dads with dead-end jobs and drinking problems
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:52 AM
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idk, from the links in OP looks like they're picking more than 1. you're the expert though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:47 AM
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obviously there's a lot of girl-whos-desired-by-multiple-men stories out there. I wouldn't expect you, a (I assume?) straight male, would be looking them up when you're horny so I doubt you'd come across many.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:42 AM
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if I'm reading this correctly: liking fanfiction as a guy makes you an authority on female masturbatory fantasies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:35 AM
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how is it you're an authority on what chicks like to rub one out to, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:27 AM
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are you a chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:21 AM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:10 AM
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25 years ago was 1993, not really a sexually conservative time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:09 AM
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people go to clubs to drink, hang out, dance, have fun, and maybe meet someone. it's not thought out more than that. maybe I'll meet some chick to have fun with for a few hours, maybe I'll meet my soulmate, but I'll probably go home alone. most of the time bar-goers leave with the same friends they came with, get pizza or taco bell, and pass out. that's how most people operate. there are some who hope to soberly meet someone for a serious relationship at church or somewhere like that, but they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 11:54 PM
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I ask because you clearly think of human interactions in very polarized terms. that said, after this conversation I have to disagree with your second point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 10:26 PM
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nobody in the real world goes 100% all-in on any romantic "strategy," they take what they can get and roll with what comes their way. are you ASD?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 08:18 PM
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to what
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 08:16 PM
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you're the only one who seems to think they're mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:38 PM
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why
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:09 PM
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very, very few men will turn down the opportunity for a hookup because they're only interested in a relationship. this is your stated definition of "looking for a LTR." according to you, a man who hooks up with a girl he has no interest in dating couldn't possibly qualify as "looking for a LTR." that describes most men's behavior. this idea that there are large numbers of men out there who would turn up their noses at casual sex because they are purely looking for a relationship is a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:47 PM
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I don't personally care or browse those subs, but your advice is also noted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 03:06 PM
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your political opinion is duly noted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 02:34 PM
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by your own definition, then, only a vanishingly small number of men are "looking for an LTR" and women are likely to find their way into one by hooking up with a guy (again, by your definition) who's "looking for casual sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:52 AM
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wrong, I'm taking an opportunity as it presents itself. and that has no bearing on my desire or ability to find a long-term monogamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 03:46 AM
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who are you to tell me what I'm looking for? going out hoping to meet a nice girl to have a relationship with is all well and good, but it doesn't mean I'll be successful in that (hypothetical) endeavor. it also doesn't mean I won't end up stumbling across an opportunity for sex with a girl I don't want to date. like most people, I'm an opportunist. I may be looking for A, but I won't turn down B. most people don't go out into social situations with blinders on to everything but their one specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 02:51 AM
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what planet do you live on? wanting a girlfriend has never precluded me from taking a girl home who I had no intention of dating if she was DTF. I don't get morality points from the girlfriend gods for turning down sex with a drunk slut. only siths deal in absolutes, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:48 AM
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and its a scenario plenty of people find themselves in despite not actively looking for a relationship. intent doesn't really mean much when it comes to sex because men change their minds on a dime if the right (or wrong but available) girl comes along. very few guys who are looking for a relationship are going to turn down NSA sex with an incompatible girl, and people looking for a casual fuck end up dating that person, per my previous scenario, just as often. I have 3 friends who met their cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:42 AM
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2 people go out, get drunk, drunkenly hook up, wake up and realize the other person is actually pretty cool, make plans to meet again for a date, end up in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 12:42 AM
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it happens all the fucking time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 12:08 AM
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reminders of what? and why isn't it a private sub, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:43 PM
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it's ragebait written to be intentionally over-the-top and incendiary, it's designed to piss people off and is posted in very public forums for that same reason. it's very easy to create private safe spaces online, if incels wanted privacy they'd have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:08 PM
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if incels really just wanted to commiserate amongst themselves in their own spaces they'd make said spaces private.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 05:59 PM
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the same reason men are afraid of rejection. or public speaking. or spiders. fears and phobias aren't usually a gendered phenomenon. what power that be has determined it's "ok" for women to be afraid of rejection but not men? personally I don't think anyone gives a shit about either one, but men will get a "grow a sack and stop being afraid of rejection" response when they specifically complain that they can't get laid due to their fear. that's how people respond to complaints: they tell the com…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:49 PM
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being rejected isn't much of a thing, man. there's any number of reasons why some bint might not be interested in you, but your emotions are running amok and causing you to panic and throw your self-worth behind her instantaneous assessment. she probably won't even remember she talked to you in 24 hours, she's not setting her phasers to stun every time some guy asks where she's from. do a J and take a walk, it'll help you settle down. there's billions of women out there and most of them won't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 01:47 PM
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Strange, I remember the impartial talking heads on T.V. explaining how this regulation was imperative, and how if one didn't support it then they hated women and were probably okay with insurers covering Viagra but not birth control, the hypocrites. I guess now that they got their policy sold to the public on false premises and since it didn't fucking do anything (beyond canonizing an inequality between men and women into the law), it's all cool, we'll just let bygones be bygones, eh? I don't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 03:22 PM
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and has been since well before welfare reform act but here we are 22 years later
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:52 PM
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...at reduced or no cost to the policyholder. In a society where 86% of plans covered all birth control, and 98% of plans covered some birth control. Long story short, it's a government policy that needn't exist. It's a government policy that ruffled feathers but didn't really change anything in terms of coverage, but yet here we are discussing it. Directly. You're a fool to believe that they aren't at all. Schools, Planned Parenthood, and other tertiary actors receive government funds, and can …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:51 PM
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you have to prove you're employed or actively looking (which, no, you can't fake) to qualify and whatever child support payments a woman does get are then garnered to pay the state back. there are all kinds of strings attached... it's a felony to use SNAP for anything other than officially designated groceries at officially designated grocery stores, for example. you want to sell it for cash so you can keep your lights on? thats jailtime. any "welfare" in the US is more of a monthly loan than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:32 PM
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because right now it's a pie-in-the-sky proposal. once they see the tax hikes required and the reduced access to care that number will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:30 PM
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Yours is the, unfortunately, widespread notion that the male sexual experience and sexual fulfillment is at best unimportant and at worst something to scoff at and dismiss as irrelevant complaints. Please quote me where I said anything even remotely resembling that. condoms reduce sensation and birth control causes women all kinds of nasty side effects. there's always a price. if you're going to put it in a random bitch you don't know or trust you'd best take precautions. The fact is, women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:28 PM
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ever been on welfare? we were on and off growing up. in the US at least there are a ton of strings attached. child support and sometimes income gets garnered to pay the state back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 02:22 PM
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who's promising anything to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:59 PM
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sexual revolution made it so people don't feel compelled to have shotgun weddings when they get knocked up anymore. chicks have been getting pregnant "out of wedlock" and have had mysteriously shifting gestational/conception timelines since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:57 PM
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nah you'd just have a lot more shotgun weddings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:51 PM
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women are also capable of speech and can use words like "stop," "no," or "fuck off" if for whatever reason he's not picking up on her body language. socially stunted and ASD people can only get better through practice, being a bitch doesn't help anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:48 PM
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underreported, more like
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:57 AM
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not many feminists on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:55 AM
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condoms are available and you can pull out. the number of guys who took those precautions and still ended up with an unwanted kid is vanishingly small. "I don't want to wrap up because it doesn't feel as good, and anyway she said she's on birth control" is a far cry from "I have no control over my reproductive destiny"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:47 AM
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It was decided by the people we selected to represent us to pass laws, that's how a democratic republic works. very few issues are put to a public vote. I never voted on whether or not I want to pay for other people's rugrats to get educated or for retired government pensions or new predator drones but my tax money supports all that shit. and as a society we don't support single payer government-provided healthcare, which is why we don't have it. we support subsidized health insurance for certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:30 AM
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most abortions aren't D&C's
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:23 AM
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sounds like chicks rewriting history so it doesn't sound like they got rejected. "yeah I wasn't interested in him that way anyway"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 07:14 PM
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I don't disagree that we won't go back and I'm not trying to be prescriptive, but in other countries women marry men with large, well-connected extended families all the time. it's considered a plus, being from a well-to-do family is a further indicator of status. it is only western cultural context that defines 'successful' as independent to the point of isolation. and the ugly truth is that women who marry men who live around their extended families have more children with those men than those…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 08:00 PM
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right, but "high status" is culturally defined. in the west it usually entails having a degree and having a well-paid corporate job. but clearly that lifestyle is not conducive to replacement fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 07:43 PM
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we already tell them what they desire, they desire college educations and careers! that much has been intentionally changed in the last 40 years. I think it's as simple as letting people decide for themselves whether a college career (and accompanying debt) and 9-5 office job and daycare payments are really what they want rather than bombarding them with bullshit that "yes, it is! it means you're independent and capable! you can't possibly be fulfilled without a degree, you'll be a loser!" peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 07:37 PM
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Saudi Arabia being near the bottom doesn't tell me what metrics are used. I'm guessing it pertains to access education and career, which is what I'm arguing contributes to the breakdown of strong extended families. most people don't need education or the sorts of "careers" that require education, they need jobs. most people pursuing corporate "careers" are dispassionately going through the motions because they're supposed to. this idea that living with or near family is abhorrently unattractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 07:19 PM
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im arguing that the madonna whore dichotomy as a cultural artifact exists, this is a well-documented phenomenon (regardless of your opinion on it) and not "made up shit in my head." my observations of TRP are based on the claims made by guys here that I talk to, and I have a lot of material to work with. I don't particularly care what official doctrine says or what your individual interpretation is if it's not what I see broadly reflected in adherents. and the vast, vast majority of self-describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 07:05 PM
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neither is someone who makes a show of how little they care about things that are important to you. it's dysfunction all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:54 PM
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Though the Netherlands is consistently ranked in the top five countries for women by what metric? that's a meaningless statistic without knowing how it's calculated. the fact that it's considered a desireable state for women (or men, for that matter) en masse, to have education and capital-C Careers tells me that's not a communal, family-driven culture. its one that promotes individual accomplishment and advancement above extended family cohesion. the government is trying to foster communalism t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:52 PM
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Denmark is a western country with similar cultural perspectives on family and career as the US and the rest of the western world. it's similarly mostly atheist/non-religious where people are encouraged to pursue careers and education before and above starting or supporting their families. theres nothing "communal" about it. government incentives don't replace good ol' familial obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:28 PM
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true, but the expectation there is generally that he will eventually move back to or near the nice house that his parents have built with that money and marry a local girl and start his family there or that he'll put down roots and move his extended family to the newer, wealthier country. the expectation is never that he'll stay in the new country and assimilate into their culture and marry a girl from there and see mom and dad once or twice a year forever, though obviously that does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:24 PM
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Western culture's modern concept of family (parents and minor-aged kids living together with older children moving out often to far-away places to start their own lives and careers) is virtually unknown in human history or elsewhere in the world. and from a demographic perspective, it's suicidal. I can only speak from experience on Latin culture as a comparison, but it's much more communal. kids are generally expected to stay in the same vicinity as their parents and extended families often live…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:08 PM
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the madonna/whore dichotomy goes back centuries in art and poetry and theology and literature and anywhere else where men have documented their thoughts on women and romance. it is quintessential to our inborn male perspective of women and is a very well documented psychological phenomenon. TRP and individual members therein believe in plenty of dichotomies that they write chapter and verse about: girlfriend material vs plate material, single moms vs non-single moms, high n-count vs low n-count,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 04:25 PM
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the manosphere is deeply, deeply solipsistic though most members don't realize it. it's a cropdusting of male impulses and prerogatives on women by guys who, at a very fundamental level, don't understand the dynamics of social situations or how women operate. they know how they work, what they find attractive, what gets them aroused, so they project it onto women. we all have a knee-jerk tendency to look at women as a dichotomy: essentially sluts and non-sluts. you can call it good girl/bad girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 03:00 PM
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what is this optimal strategy and how does it differ from an "optimal strategy" for making friends and having an active social life more broadly? because what I do is what traditional "blue pill" advice tells you to do: go out, be social, make friends, talk to everyone, be open to new experiences, treat women like any other human beings. I don't work out, I've never lifted, I didn't study STEM, I probably drink too much, drive a shitty car, my strategy is pretty much the polar opposite of what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 02:38 PM
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I got laid like you wouldn't believe when I was still a weed guy, and I've never been much to write home about looks-wise unless you consider 5'7" Mexicans to be "chadly aesthetics." if you're charismatic looks don't matter much. they help, but you can still get ass by just going to parties, having a hookup, and having a large social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:07 PM
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every guy is niche appeal, nobody gets every chick swiping right on tinder or every girl's number at the bar. it's more about right time right place than about being irresistably, universally hot. thats how male attraction works, not female. some chicks like the skinny tatted guy in a band, some like the weed guy, some like the good looking nerd, some are into the activist, some (fewer than redpill mythology would have you believe) like the stereotypical football jock... but none of them are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 11:19 AM
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the ones sportfucking aren't the obese ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:41 AM
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guys who make a show of how much they don't care about the little things their wives care about are the ones who get "blindsided" by divorce and can't understand how their woman could be so heartless as to divorce them over dirty dishes. they don't see or don't notice the fact that she'd felt ignored for years and that resentment over his "DGAF" attitude had most likely built up for a very long time. it's a masculine strategy that works on other men and noncommitted women to a degree, but not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 03:52 AM
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not really. in the US the suffrage movement lasted about 20 years and there was only one year of conscription (1917) in that period. feminism as a movement has been most popular during peacetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 12:47 PM
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statistically speaking that is very common, most people date and marry within their same socioeconomic strata
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 07:28 PM
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31% is not some outlier fringe minority, it's about 1 in 3. the data doesn't support your claim that they are "refusing" to marry men who earn less. on the contrary, it says a significant plurality of women do so and they are doing it with greater and greater frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 07:24 PM
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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 06:00 PM
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career women marry men who earn less or equal amounts all the time. they might prefer someone who earns more in the aggregate but they're not refusing to marry anyone who makes less... the statistics bear that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 04:56 PM
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I never said figuring out the ways guys suck is more important than figuring out the ways women suck, I'm saying it's important to understand human nature and the ways both men and women can and will act to fuck you over if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 05:02 PM
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I agree: sodomy has always been more of a shaming tool in the judeo-christian tradition than an actual, prosecutable crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:56 PM
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I don't understand how you could possibly arrive at that conclusion based on anything I've written.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:54 PM
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yeah that goes way back. IIRC, in the medieval era there was an all-encompassing class of sex crime called 'buggery' that anal sex (and bestiality, and incest, and voyeurism, etc) fell under.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:43 PM
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there's an across the board human tendency to think we're more attractive than we are. very, very few people will admit they're not a great catch but many of us just aren't. men do this, women do this, everyone. most men will claim to have certain standards for what they want in a girlfriend, but most end up settling for something that doesn't meet all of them. same goes for women... what you see listed as requirements on a chick's tinder profile and what she ends up with are night and day. ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 03:07 PM
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in the US the bottom 20% is all fat. shit, the bottom 60% is all fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:56 PM
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I'm not absolving them either, I'm pointing out that there are always multiple parties involved when someone cheats or ends a relationship in a shitty way. those same shitty, backstabbing behavior patterns that RP ascribes to female nature are actually human nature and demonstrated just as often by men. it behooves a socially stunted man setting out to navigate the dating scene to figure this out first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:49 PM
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who are they being dumped for and cheated on with, then? whos there as a shoulder to cry on to tell her she made the right choice and her boyfriend didn't treat her right anyway? other women? every time? shitty, backstabbing women don't operate in isolation, there are always men (and women) waiting and egging her on to backstab her SO. that's human nature, humans are selfish, humans won't hesitate to throw someone else under the bus if they think they can benefit. if you're socially stunted in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:40 PM
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I'm responding to your comment that discussing male behavior is "completely useless," not making a top level comment responding directly to OP. I'm not sure what "rhetoric" is "balkanizing," sounds like abstract scary-sounding words. my point seems simple to me: understanding human nature as it applies to both men and women will improve ones social skills and likelihood of success in social situations, including dating. fixating on the ugly side of human nature as it applies to women exclusively…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:20 PM
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I didn't call you anything, but coming from anyone who tried to straw-man me that's rich. understanding human nature in all it's ugliness is critical to dating. many, many redpillers have a "men are wonderful" or at least "non-cucks are wonderful" (read: my ingroup) outlook (look at mgtow, most of those guys started as redpillers.) I've come across many on just this sub. that's the kind of thinking that gets you fucked over by guys who are just as human as the women you spend so much time studyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:08 PM
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but I said none of that... it's not about who they're dating, it's about understanding human nature. they will deal with men. they will compete with men. the current formula of discussing female nature at length while ignoring the fact that it applies just as much to men is how you get a bunch of dweebs who think they're alpha males because they read an internet forum. and by and large that's exactly what redpill's membership consists of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 11:54 AM
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the redpill claims to be about self-improvement especially for socially maladjusted guys. by that token, human nature should be presented as such and not "female nature."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 03:49 AM
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discussing human stimulus response as if it's specific to women creates a myopic view of relationships and social interactions and redpillers are already a pretty socially stunted group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:10 AM
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infatuation comes and goes. some couples are infatuated once and then fall into routine and some go through cycles... I've been with chicks who got in and out of my head for years and chicks who I was head over heels and then tired of in a week. either way, relationships would suck balls without that initial emotional rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:01 AM
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I think this is less of a male/female divide and more of a people who keep score/people who don't keep score divide. redpill and mgtow and their ilk peddle a narrative where a loyal, hard working husband gets absolutely blindsided by a suddenly cruel wife who's a slave to her "feelings"... but redpillers are also a notoriously socially obtuse group, and what more likely happens (what I've seen happen every single time) is that the wife has felt let down in some way for a very long time, has atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:57 AM
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an LTR without attendant infatuation and emotional investment would be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:33 AM
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who cares if ypu can afford it and she puts out?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 06:17 PM
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hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 04:23 AM
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when I was a teenager all the girls tanned and (at least in my part of the country) a lot still do. I don't see this anti-aging/sunscreen hysteria, sounds like a rich person preoccupation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 03:42 AM
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yes, but that's not a uniquely male phenomenon. plenty of women are late bloomers as well. the spergy dude who improves his social skills throughout his twenties and the the teenage fat chick who loses 50 lbs after college or the shut-in wallflower who learns not to be terrified of talking to guys are pretty equivalent. they are more attractive than they were when they were younger but less attractive than younger people who are already fit and well socialized. but this is all speaking in degree…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 03:41 AM
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famous actors who have gotten a lot of (top notch) work done and who can afford cutting edge skin treatments. don't know a single regular shmuck who fits this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 01:24 AM
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but a lot of men do and it is almost entirely a male domain with the express intention of making the user look more youthful than he is. teenage girls use acne cream, but so do teenage boys. I did when I was 14/15. chicks don't start on the anti-aging shit until they're in their 30's, usually. same time the hair loss anxiety usually starts for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 01:14 AM
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ya you're an introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 01:11 AM
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I think it's easiest because I'm not an introvert and have been able to easily maximize that scene. if you're not socially handicapped it is by far easier than tinder for a young guy. you're literally surrounded by horny, intoxicated young girls all out to have a good time. tinder's a massive pain in the ass by comparison. full of flakes and chicks out fishing for validation with no intention of meeting up with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 11:47 PM
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sure, because most people seek and ultimately end up in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 11:21 PM
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it depends on your strategy... the way to get the most quantity is to run the party circuit and you hit an age where there isn't as much of a natural party scene. a hypothetical guy who never struggles with women will never have it as easy as he does in high school and college when he's surrounded by hot young things day in and day out. its an environment that makes for absolutely effortless sex if your social skills are up to snuff. I lived it. for a guy who struggles in his youth, sure, things…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 10:25 PM
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I thought redpillers were all about finding a significantly younger, traditional virgin bride once they're older?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 10:21 PM
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We don't mind girls that are genuinely prudish/conservative. If we see her as worth it, then we'll try for it or drop them completely and move on. speak for yourself. no chick is worth working for sex, a pussy's a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 10:04 PM
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your personal experience learning social skills doesn't really disprove the point, though... there are plenty of women in the same boat who, say, lost weight and look better in their late 20's than they did in their early 20's. I'm 28 and starting to slow down... ill never slam as hard as when I was 17-22 and fully committed to the party scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 10:01 PM
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men go bald, though, which ages us. women using skin products and men using hair loss products is pretty analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 09:15 PM
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this paper wouldn't have to say that since it's not a survey or study, it's a review of existing literature across several decades. there have been many policy changes in that span of time that have affected behavior and parental identification requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 02:12 PM
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we can't say. since this was an aggregate review of existing literature spanning many decades and not a study of current populations we can't break down what the chances are for that group vs others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 12:52 PM
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it doesn't have to mention birth certificates. in the US birth certificates are how fathers are officially identified and how child support payments are channeled unless there's an official adoption. the state puts massive pressure on single mothers with babies of unknown paternity to name a father, and I'm sure many of those women genuinely believe the wrong guy is the dad. I'm sure many others name whoever is the best off of the potential suspects. an academic study based on word of mouth alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 12:45 PM
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it's easy not to be creepy if you have passable social skills within the context of the culture you're operating in. if you're foreign or raised in an isolated environment or have some kind of social impairment or anxiety issue I could see where it could become difficult in the sense that you want to play the game but don't know the rules. if you want so badly to be approved of by women but one word from them could seemingly fuck over your efforts for the foreseeable future run-of-the-mill bitch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 12:40 PM
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if he's smart he would, yeah, but the brightest and most educated folks don't usually find themselves in that situation. and I'd guess it depends what he's on the hook for... if she doesn't go after him for child support right away he might (stupidly, short-sightedly) think fuck it. he might not know he has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 12:43 AM
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not necessarily an affair, could be the mom wasn't with the father in any official capacity and named the wrong guy on the birth certificate. took an educated guess and got it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:43 PM
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your argument really teeters on the assumption that "experiencing the world" makes women less aroused by their eventual husbands, or that if that were the case it would be a game changer. I don't know anyone, male or female, who got married because 'arousal.' I also don't personally believe women lay around pining away for the stranger they banged at Coachella 10 years ago while hubby's on top of them. that's more of a guy thing: I've never been more miserable than when I tried to date a fat chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 06:23 PM
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fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 05:51 PM
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or perhaps he's a person with anxiety who overreacted as people with anxiety are wont to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 04:43 PM
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I commented on that further down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 03:23 PM
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this is because, in the US, child support payments are very important for state revenue reporting. for women on welfare child support payments are garnered by the state so if a woman is or may potentially be on welfare the father must be identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:59 PM
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OP is asking why women think a certain thing, not about it's validity or what men think. my post is an attempt to deduce how women project based on how men project. and women see men all around them who willingly become stepfathers but don't take into account the sting of being defrauded. in this particular scenario that's an exclusively male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:53 PM
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appearing masculine and aggressive is one thing, appearing anxious, butthurt and socially tone deaf is another. per the specific scenario, I'm talking about the latter. but even the most masculine, aggro guys I've known (and I grew up around gangs) knew when to back down. they rarely, if ever, looked foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:51 PM
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in both of those scenarios the person is being defrauded. not wanting to be a victim of fraud, not wanting to be lied to and cheated by someone you're supposed to trust is divorced entirely from ones willingness to raise another person's offspring. I imagine most guys react one way to the prospect of dating a woman who already has a kid and very differently to finding out the mother of "their" child lied to them and actually conceived with some guy she was cheating with. the first situation is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:40 PM
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it happens occasionally, is far from the norm. that too is male projection because it's often our ideal scenario: loyal girlfriend plus side flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:36 PM
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thats a myopic mindset. plenty of men look foolish for making a scene and (in their minds) "standing up for themselves" at bad times. its pussy repellent, smacks of poor social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:32 PM
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same reason so many men don't realize that casual sex with attractive strangers isn't preferable to a steady boyfriend for most women: it often is for them and they project. women who love kids (this is most women) love all kids, theirs and others so they assume that men feel the same. they project. their kid is a precious angel from heaven, how could you not be as enthralled with it's existence as they are? how could you be so shallow as to care who it's father is? projection all the way down. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:30 PM
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this chick is his friends girlfriend who just told him his costume sucks. there's not a snowballs chance in hell he's getting pussy from her. he's bowing out with dignity because his anxiety is triggered without making it unnecessarily dramatic. responding with "fine then I'm not coming" makes him look butthurt and theres no greater pussy repellant than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:22 PM
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I'm guessing anxiety is the bigger underlying issue emotion that they get rejected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 01:10 PM
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I have a 17 year old sister who's friends are constantly around, I'm very familiar with how they talk. you're describing the behavior of a much younger girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:59 PM
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based on the interactions I've had most of redpillers are pretty damn depressed and often outrageously anxious. to them, that level of barely subclinical maladjustment is "emotions."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:45 PM
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they care a lot about the women who won't fuck them. so much so that they feel their DNA is being rejected, according to another thread here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:40 PM
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I wish my daughter to be a unicorn, but it is not gonna happen. So maybe at least be in the lower tail of the hypergamous curve. You wouldn't want her to aspire the best possible guy she could find with plenty of money to support her so she could comfortably raise kids or pursue her passion project? I wouldn't want my daughter to settle if she didn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 12:01 PM
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because it's the most common way to diffuse hostility in the english language, but his point is still made. we have no way of knowing she didn't tell him "I'm sorry, but I feel like your costume might seem to boring. maybe try something else?" and based on every interaction I've ever had with a woman she probably did. women are much less direct than men and our directness can come off aggressive and mean, especially when it's over something that, to her and most people, doesn't seem like a party…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 11:53 AM
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these things are all in the communication, she can't read your mind. it's a difference of saying "I'm dealing with pretty bad anxiety right now and I think it would make me uncomfortable to come knowing you think my costume is boring, so I'm going to bow out. sorry." vs "fine then i won't come." the second one sounds a bit punitive and petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:04 AM
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every time a chick wants to give me head I will now consider it a rejection of my seed. my DNA does no good down her throat or on her tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:58 AM
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just abstinence from PiV
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 09:47 AM
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when I was a teenager I worked in a restaurant that (briefly) participated in a jobs for the disabled type program. people with that kids level of disability were brought in to bus tables or whatever while heavily supervised and they still struggled and made people uncomfortable. that's just reality, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 10:59 PM
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I only did a year of community college, so no not especially. I'm not making any arguments as to who colleges should and shouldn't accept, so I'm not sure who your comment is targeted at or how I should answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 10:56 PM
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who is this comment directed at? who is arguing that colleges shouldn't accept people on merit or that no lines can ever be drawn?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 10:22 PM
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the kid in the article is profoundly autistic and is described, per the article, as learning disabled. a person with that level of disability (did you watch the video?) isn't going to be able to have the kind of career that college prepares people for. for better or worse, every career requires some level of ability to navigate social scenarios and someone who functions at his level and is otherwise learning disabled will never have that ability. sending him is a waste of resources and, obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 08:45 PM
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Im stuck here wondering why such an apparently profoundly disabled kid is in college. sounds like mom is getting more out of it than he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 04:57 PM
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people are lazy and antisocial but there's still a stigma around dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 01:42 PM
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to the pearl-clutching dweebs on here, yes. "is it wrong for me to assume women who go to clubs are whores?" and "is a guy wrong for preferring an Amish virgin who's never heard of a club?" posts incoming...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 01:41 PM
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I wish they'd walk the walk and stop engaging with all those nasty tattooed non-virgins. protect their good Christian morals from such corrupting influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 12:24 PM
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that's very much a man's perspective on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 09:15 PM
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how do you know? that sounds like a man's perspective projected onto women if ever there was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 07:37 PM
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I consider chicks on sugar daddy websites to be prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:57 PM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:32 PM
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...who she has to go out of her way to meet precisely because it's his money she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:31 PM
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no it's a job title
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:25 PM
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most people wouldn't consider a lower class woman marrying a middle class man who she genuinely appreciates and finds attractive to be a golddigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:24 PM
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we call those girls whores
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:18 PM
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your definition of golddigger is more expansive than society's at large
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:18 PM
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pretending to be attracted to a guy to get at his money is pretty trashy behavior, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:40 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:32 PM
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again: nobody is disaparaging them for having sex, they're disparaging them for being dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:30 PM
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sure, and if you were to publically come into a large inheritance she'd find herself competing against a lot more women who suddenly notice how cute you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:22 PM
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an equally average looking poor guy wouldn't be dating her. if she claims she's not in it for the money she's being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:17 PM
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I never claimed she wasn't, is said she is being dishonest about it and people who value honesty (which is most of society be ause, as I said, honesty is a virtue) will judge her for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:13 PM
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spare me. men get beneficial treatment from their relatives and women who want to be with them, it's other competitive men who throw them under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:11 PM
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how I have seen every golddigger I've ever known behave, both in bed and out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:07 PM
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because she wouldn't be with him if he didn't have money and status, she'd be sleeping with a younger better-looking guy or dating a different rich older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:05 PM
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...which is why I never used the word ugly, I said his girl isn't attracted to his physical appearance divorced from his material assets. his looks don't matter, if he has money he could be average or ugly and the same hoes will come out of the woodwork wanting to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:02 PM
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she behaves the way she does to maintain his ego and her influx of benefits, of course, but it doesn't make her any less dishonest to outsiders who are responsible for labeling her a golddigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:00 PM
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most people wouldnt call when you're describing a golddigger relationship, that's just two people who are attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:57 PM
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benevolent sexism is the treatment attractive women get from men who want to fuck them and the protective treatment older matriarchs get from male family members who have come to respect them. the shrill middle aged harpy doesn't get shit, neither does the nasty fat chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:55 PM
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women want loyal yes men who will always agree and go along with what they say and men want loyal women who look the other way if they get a little on the side here or there. but that's not what men or women aspire to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:51 PM
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that sounds miserable and like a relationship with a massive power imbalance. from an outsider's perspective I'd say you were henpecked. it's fine for her to not want you to call her out and make her look bad in front of other people because I wouldn't want a girl to do that to me either, it's the holding you captive for days after that's not acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:44 PM
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I've never met an honest golddigger who admitted "I'm not attracted to my husband/boyfriend, I'm with him because he buys me shit." it's always "he has such an awesome personality," and his money "doesn't mean anything to me" and of course "I'm an old soul"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:42 PM
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the difference is the prostitute is honest, forthright, and transparent about her prices and services. honesty is a virtue, so she will be looked on more favorably by people who value it as a trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:31 PM
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when you're in a relationship with someone there's an expectation that you'll try to understand where they're coming from, good or bad, rather than point-blank telling them "no, you're wrong." if your girl is being paranoid you'll get better results addressing the reason why (either she values your friend's opinions of her and is nervous about making a good impression or is trying to stir up some drama that's not there) rather than telling her she's wrong. it's not acceptable for chicks to tell …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 03:28 PM
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I'm nothing to write home about, I just hold my drink better than 99% of women. chicks do damage control for choices made with beer goggles on same as we do. and yes on your second point. the girls who are into kink aren't the kind of girls most guys would imagine ourselves being kinky with. hot girls get attention with no extra effort needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:55 PM
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the market determines value, not just physical attractiveness. a chick who's a 5 and willingly puts out has a higher SMV than a guy who's a 5, because hotter guys will put in effort to fuck her. sexually speaking with relationship prospects notwithstanding, they're not equals or "counterparts." she is much more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:48 PM
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if your girl's a lousy lay she almost certainly always was. sure, maybe she drunkenly hooked up with someone like me some years before you met but I'm here to tell you that sex was still bad, still awkward, and her sloppy ass puked on my sheets. it's the spontaneity that pisses future boyfriends off and starts the obsessive dick measuring, and from there they project wild pornstar fantasies onto what in reality is dizzy, bloated fumbling. none of this is to say I'm not gonna brag it up and exagg…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:41 PM
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TRP is a bunch of lonely keyboard warriors trying to be the edgiest and "least PC" person at the party. many are ASD, all are socially stunted in some way. they're low-hanging fruit in the same way a fat feminist with dykey blue hair or a teenage girl going on about how she's a pangender vampirekin is. I have known (and been a member of) plenty of groups of guys who got together around a common interest and didn't make it part of their mission to offend. nobody gave a shit. there are lots and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:31 PM
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I am, actually. came up speaking mostly Spanish at home. usually when someone addresses with 'you' or 'you all' it's addressed at the reader, but perhaps I misread what you meant to write.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 03:04 PM
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addressing y'all women still excludes men. you ASD? somehow I managed to come up among popular media and mainstream education and never didn't realize women are human. the whole 'women are angels' (and redpill/mgtow) seems like an Asperger's thing, which has also had a slow. steady. rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 01:43 PM
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I'm a guy, boyo. odd that you're prosletyzing now when yesterday you were on about wanting to move past redpill. gotta tow the party line, ya? I must have missed out on all popular media and mainstream education because I always realized chicks are just people. you ASD?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 01:30 PM
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who's 'you?'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 12:50 PM
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there are different problems too I was just using your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:47 AM
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it would be more accurate to say different problems. and I'd take those problems any day. plenty of poor people zoned out on oxy like your mom, but they have to steal or pawn their possessions to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:20 AM
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yeah they're rare birds if you look at the population as a whole, but not if youre just looking at the upper middle class. I'm going to hazard a guess that in most of these "wife outearns husband" scenarios it's more like "wife has a steady job as a doctor/executive and husband has a high threshold but unreliable income as an author/real estate agent/day trader. some months he earns $0, some months he earns $200k."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:19 AM
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the difference is college educated women with money have the resources and leisure time to write self-indulgent screeds about how lonely they are. it's tough to write a blog post while you're riding the bus on the way to your second job.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:13 AM
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every group of people is a mess in one way or another, and better that you're a mess with money than a mess without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:10 AM
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a woman who earns $225k a year marrying a guy who earns $200k a year is still an elite marrying an elite from where I'm standing way down the ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 11:07 AM
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Sounds like an argument to avoid PPD. If it's bringing you down, ya. I mean, knowledge of female nature is truly heartbreaking. you mean your perception of female nature, the worldview you've bought into, is heartbreaking. Or at least it was. Now it's just something I can't un-see, and I'm thinking I might have peaked on what TRP has to offer, and the debates that followed learning about female nature. you need to be around positive people, people who have had normal happy relationships, and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 10:36 PM
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if you've accepted this world view as reality as you've claimed, why would you have any conception of 'moving past it?' if you surround yourself with negative people you will develop a negative perspective... so if your conception of reality is bringing you down to the point where you're asking us if it's possible to move past it take a break from all this redpill shit and surround yourself with more positive, romantically satisfied people. if you view the opposite sex as your adversary, or as d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 05:04 PM
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if you're concerned about your future mental and emotional health I think a trusted friend or therapist will give you better insight than strangers on the internet. we don't know you from Adam.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:45 PM
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for every Louis CK there's a Roy Moore. creepiness and grabby hands are pretty evenly distributed across the political spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:43 PM
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yes, I am asking you to clarify and explain what exactly you want to discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:34 PM
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should i take it you consider writing more than a bullet point to explain your argument to be hand-holding? you know this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:23 PM
14

did you just come here to navel gaze and talk about yourself? there's quite a few paragraphs of self-indulgence going on here for what seems to boil down to a rehashing of the same redpill shit we see in every other post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:15 PM
1

around the house or among the tribe ya AKA, on the farm or family business while mom and dad also worked on the farm or family business from sun up to sun down. back in the day before electronic appliances mom would be occupied with household chores all day every day, tending to the garden, going to the mill to get flour ground so she could then make bread, hand scrubbing laundry... now that shits as easy a pressing a button or going to the grocery store. there's no conceivable reason for a wife…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:02 PM
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this idea that significant amounts of mental energy should be put into "raising children properly" is a recent and bougie one. for most of human history children were put to work as soon as they were able, and left to their own devices enough to develop normal social skills by playing with other kids. thats a healthy, normal childhood. the overparented kids of bored mothers become stunted, unproductive adults. that's why we have this current epidemic of autismo romantic disasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:43 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your question. I think a sexually repressed, religious man who marries a sexually repressed, religious woman will have similar hangups around sex that don't usually evaporate as soon as they say their marriage vows. finding out your devout, virginal bride who grew up viewing most sexual scenarios as sinful is frigid shouldn't come as a surprise in that scenario. I personally would not date a religious chick for a variety of reasons, not just her mindset around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:34 PM
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1) dump her, easy. 2) I wouldn't date a chick with sexual trauma in the past, so I can't relate. as a hypothetical, though: if i really liked her and it was something she was actively working through and improving I'd stick around. shit happens to everyone, I've been through my share of family crap. 3) I'm not religious and have no intention of getting married, so I can't relate. religious chicks are a red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:33 PM
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people who find and are able to maintain mutually loving relationships don't end up on the redpill. why are you asking the kids on the short bus how to get into Harvard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 06:36 PM
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you people and your moralistic obsession with "right" and "wrong" and "should" and "should not." it's not wrong, it's just counterproductive for someone who doesn't want to constantly deal with the manipulative, bratty women who specifically fall under the label that RP mistakenly applies to 'all women.' the constant fear of being used or manipulated ("does she think I'm beta? is she really attracted to me?") and simultaneous condescension of the drug and party scene sounds positively exhausting…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 03:08 PM
4

good luck getting a bid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:49 PM
5

spergs leading the spergs and whipping them into a moralizing froth
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:16 AM
2

what opinions are they expressing, exactly, to earn this treatment? talk shit get hit, that's how free speech works. if all it takes to get you to retreat back into your cave is some bint calling you a creep you ought to learn the arcane social skill that we call "standing up for yourself." the problem isn't that women mandate what opinions certain guys are allowed to express, it's that those same certain guys are terrified of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:59 PM
1

why does that matter? easy attention is generated for them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:56 PM
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who is stopping them from expressing an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:30 PM
1

puritanism is still alive and well I see. and no, I don't care about the causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:28 PM
1

I'd never heard of those girls but now I'm googling them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:16 PM
6

what's so unique about a frat party as opposed to a normal party in your universe? the worst behavior I've seen (male and female) has all been at standard-issue house parties. how many frat parties have you personally been to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:12 PM
2

who's talking about gay guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 10:46 PM
5

at least where I live meets are total sausage fests. the only attractive girls there are dragged along by their boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:15 PM
2

but you can be damn sure it was a sincere compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:11 PM
3

I know a lot of car guys and I've never met such a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:10 PM
3

birth control is affordable, it can just be a pain in the ass to get. guys don't wear condoms because they reduce sensation and most chicks who aren't on birth control are either lazy or sorta-kinda want a kid (even if they won't admit it because it would make them look irresponsible.) it's almost never a money issue. I do think cheap over the counter birth control would solve for the women who are too lazy to go to a doctor/PP to get a script, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 07:03 PM
5

I don't understand this meme where any hobby that a guy spends money on must be low-key all about impressing women. he couldn't possibly be investing in his own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:57 PM
1

are you friends with any car guys? because that's not really true at all. I mean, maybe it is of guys who install cheap chintzy mods but they aren't the guys I'm talking about and, frankly, they're pretty uncommon. cheap chintzy mods will fuck your shit up in the long run and anyone with even a passing knowledge of mechanics knows that. it's mostly to impress other members of whatever enthusiast groups theyre associated with (muscle cars, asian sports cars, off-road Jeep's, whatever.) most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:34 PM
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IIRC most women getting abortions are married, which means either they and their husbands can't afford another kid or they want the kid but there's something developmentally wrong with the fetus. most chicks on the hookup circuit are using some kind of birth control... increasingly it's IUD's which have vanishingly low failure rates. the stereotypical scenario where a chick gets knocked up from a one night stand truly by accident is really, really rare nowadays. more often you see the chick who …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:30 PM
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do you have many guy friends in real life? guys dump stupid money into shit like cars and computer/system upgrades (more than every 4-5 years) and booze at about the same rate as girls dump stupid money into their wardrobes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:24 PM
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I think it's that their indirect communication style gets frustrating. most women are hesitant to say what they really mean, so they describe it in roundabout terms. if there's one partner (as in most heterosexual relationships) who communicates directly this can work just fine. but when you have 2 people in an intimate, life-sharing relationship dropping hints and dancing around the issue instead of saying what they mean... yeah that must get really frustrating. this is why blunt girls are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:21 PM
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this sounds like a difference in communication style. women describe things in more roundabout terms, men are direct. "I wanted that to happen" in a completely, autistically direct communication style would be: "I wanted to kiss you, so I was hoping you would take the risk of initiating it so I could know for sure the feeling was mutual and not embarrass myself and appear too eager"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:07 PM
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yes, I'm explaining the gender-flexible mindset and how it relates to "traditional" gender roles, not describing what women should or shouldn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:43 PM
2

I might have phrased that badly. with feminism, as I remember growing up in the 90's/2000's the message was "girls can do anything guys can. just because you're a girl doesn't mean you have to stay home with the kids or be a housewife, you can work on cars!" there was a concerted effort to break down gender roles. now gender roles are back in full force. and the message seems to be "girls are feminine and would prefer to stay home with their kids. if you have a vagina but like to work on cars yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:33 PM
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why does that matter? excuse-making and consequence-dodging isn't a strictly sexual thing. if a person is called out on doing something wrong and they think they can lessen the consequences or make it look not as bad by making excuses or withholding information chances are they will, regardless of what's between their legs. it's human nature. there's an argument to be made that men do mental gymnastics to save face even more because our reputations matter when it comes to getting laid. a fuckup …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:28 PM
3

we're not strictly programmed for civilization at all, but most people consider themselves civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:22 PM
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is this a woman thing or a human being thing? I see men pull the same shit day in and day out. it's a rare person in a rare scenario who readily admits they willfully did something shitty knowing full well that it would hurt or inconvenience someone. there's always a matrix of excuses and judtifications and attempts to make it sound like less of a big deal than it is. the only place gender comes in is the nature of the excuses, in my opinion. men tend to outright deny ("it wasn't me, I wasn't ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:18 PM
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I think we're seeing more traditional gender roles but insane flexibility with regard to what a person's gender is. saying "a man should be the breadwinner" sounds conservative until you factor in the concurrent belief that "biological sex has no impact on gender." transgender is trendy so the kids are losing their grip on the concept of masculine women or feminine men. if you're male but have feminine interests you must be a trans woman and vice versa. if you like the color pink and also workin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:12 PM
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The distinction is because in this scenario you are getting them, and they are getting you. I'm not a prize, I dumpster dive. I'd prefer not to, but I do. But they don't all need to own the room - just some of them. But you always own the room. You're alpha. you decide the flow of conversation. you lead the interaction. this gets the girl. have you ever been to a party? there's never a single person who "owns the room." there's a constant back and forth between multiple people (men and women) wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 07:51 PM
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I didn't ask about "hot women" who "also project confidence and own rooms". I asked about the women you fuck. why does this distinction matter? Are they owning the room, the way you are? I bet the answer is no, but they do gravitate toward you. the most memorable ones, yes, but I've settled for my share of uggos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 07:09 PM
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but you're wrong... hot women also project confidence and own rooms. it's why at a party most guys will flock around certain (confident) women who know how to flatter them and keep their attention. the cute awkward wallflower won't get nearly as much attention. this is all basic how to make friends and influence people shit, not arcane knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:54 PM
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oh please, you guys can't just declare anything as "red pill." what I'm describing is basic school yard social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:21 PM
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I mean, chicks flutter their eyelashes and look you up and down when they just want free drinks all the time. some will go to great lengths pretending to like a guy for free shit... when I sold weed I had chicks flirt with me for freebies all the time (but I also got head out of it on multiple occasions so at least some followed through) but the chicks I ended up dating gave the same sorts of signals. you have to take each girl as she comes and consider the context. I don't know if that's what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 11:11 PM
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not necessarily. a lot of women, in fact some of the hottest ones, are all too happy to marry an ugly old rich guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 10:05 PM
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sometimes, depends on the guy. most of the hottest girls I've personally been with have been completely, visibly psychotic. I wouldn't go on a second date with them let alone marry them. as I said, most of the men I know who are engaged or seriously with someone long term went for the less attractive but loyal good wife and mother material. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 09:11 PM
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I think women marry men objectively less attractive than their ideal and less attractive than the hottest guy theyve ever slept with in their youth. Everyone does. my friends who used to slam party sluts in their early 20's are mostly all seriously dating, married, or engaged to meh-looking women who their families like. sweet, sweet girls who will probably make great mothers but dumpy as hell and old before their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 08:33 PM
2

Brazil sounds grim asses are fat tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 04:08 AM
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i cant even understand the thinking behind this. it means they don't like you for ~~who you really are~~
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 10:18 PM
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keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 02:44 PM
8

I don't think mental health issues are a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 02:41 PM
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yes and he almost certainly pedestalized the previous trashy chicks he dated in the same way and it almost certainly ended badly for him because those relationships didn't last long. this wasn't his first rodeo. he had bigger problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 02:15 PM
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I think it's nothing more than speculation to say she or the photos caused his suicide considering he'd been through all the ups and downs of relationships before and battled a lot of other demons. that said, I think those chicks are narcissistic, talentless old sluts riding out their 15 minutes. they injected themselves into a dirty industry, acted in accordance with that dirty industry's social mores, then had the gall to try and turn their dirty laundry into a scandal 15 years after they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 01:58 PM
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the terpers who aren't foreign or ASD are high-anxiety nerds of the highest order. I've gotten lectured by quite a few of those old biddies about what drugs and alcohol do to your brain, it's actually hilarious. and they wonder why they're virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 12:53 PM
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I am an average man who has casual sex, so, AMA? I have always been a partier, I just enjoy the scene. I will usually leave after not too long with a girl to get high because, well, I also love women. I was a local weed guy for a short time... i quit because the money wasn't good and the routine got old pretty quick, but it got me laid like you wouldn't believe. I'm told I'm charismatic. I'm an extrovert. when I was young my parents were going through shit and my mom worked 2 jobs so I spent mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 12:45 PM
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Yeah, but are you critical of feminists? Do you criticize them when they claim to understand the male experience, or just when terpers claim to understand the female experience? sure, feminists are just as capable of being sanctimonious blowhards. I have yet to encounter one here, but I also avoid feminist-bashing posts because I find them redundant and boring. agree with most of the rest of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 04:13 AM
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whoah
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 04:01 AM
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I'm not asking you to judge anyone else's standards I'm asking what you consider a burden because you're being wildly inconsistent. signing up for the selective service for which you have a 0% chance of ever being drafted: a burden chivalry: a burden having to "prove yourself to be a mate" (whatever that means): big burden 9 months of pregnancy and labor: not a burden
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 03:54 AM
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We all have the ability emphasize with the situation of others to some extent. To just give up and say "I can never really understand" gets us nowhere. Sure, we can empathize with individuals as we grow to understand their situation but we as men can't claim to know how women as an aggregate think. As others in this thread have pointed out, women and female feminists make generalizations about the male experience all the time and nobody blinks an eye. feminists are one of the most criticized gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 03:50 AM
4

massive tax hikes so the state can care for all the old people without kids
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 03:43 AM
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do you only consider something a burden if there is a very high chance of dying?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 03:32 AM
3

so much straw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 03:30 AM
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that's a lot of straw
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 05:11 PM
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you certainly can, you'll just look like a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 04:23 PM
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thought process, not experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 04:01 PM
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the blue pill ladies seem to agree with me a lot, mostly because it's not meaningless moralizing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 04:01 PM
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any statement I make about the female thought process will inevitably be a projection (and probably a very obvious one) of the aforementioned male thought process. I choose my words carefully
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:56 PM
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lol did you just change a quote and try to pass it off?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:50 PM
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you guys upload anything bashing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:42 PM
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there it is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:24 PM
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I bash women all the time and get upvoted here... I've actually never once been called a misogynist. nobody gives a fuck if you criticize women. it's when you act like you know what women are thinking and then cropdust it with your own male sense of morality that you look like a blowhard. thats the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:21 PM
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where did either of us say you can't criticize women? I'd be in trouble if that were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:20 PM
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as a man, I can make relatively informed statements-- even generalizations-- about the male thought process, both "good" and "bad." I'm coming from a place of experience. any statement I make about the female thought process will inevitably be a projection (and probably a very obvious one) of the aforementioned male thought process. the more informed I think I am in this view and the more sanctimonious I act about it, the more I look like a massive tool. and if I get combative about criticisms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 03:00 PM
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no, and I don't think there should be programs to change women's behavior to negotiate higher pay either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:51 AM
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not the ones I know IRL, but not for lack of trying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 05:24 PM
3

yeah i think everyone knows a self-styled sex guru who has gotten laid exactly twice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:42 PM
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huh. I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:34 PM
4

are you trying to mock somebody in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:14 PM
7

TRP is guys desperate for validation all the way down
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:13 PM
3

this is right here is why people think y'all redpillers are butthurt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:50 PM
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the problem isn't that casual sex is hard to get, the problem is that an entire generation of guys have been raised as socially stunted shut-ins with good grades and test scores who fall to pieces when they try to talk to a cute girl. the number of guys I've met on this sub who never went to parties or smoked or drank in high school is mind-blowing. of course you won't get laid living like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:30 PM
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I don't see how you can say jerking it to porn is an acceptable stopgap and there doesn't exist an equally acceptable stopgap for women. it's easy: I acknowledge men and women are different. Maybe jerking it to insemination porn. But the point I'm hearing is it's acceptable to give men a shitty substitute, but women demand and deserve the whole experience and nothing else should suffice. I don't know where you're hearing that from, but it's not me. I'm not talking about right or wrong or accepta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:12 PM
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people get addicted to porn because they have addictive personalities to begin with. those same people would and do get addicted to gambling, video games, sex, booze, you name it. I don't think being exposed to a lot of kids hurts teenagers... I watched a metric fuckton of porn when I was 15-16 and turned out fine. I have a normal sex life. it's healthy to be exposed to sex even if it's not Realistic™ I can't speak to your analogy because I'm not a woman but I think it's a silly attempt at tit-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:45 PM
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you're confusing the desire for sex with loneliness. incels' problem isn't a lack of sex, it's that they want their existence validated by a woman and they see intimacy as the only way that can be done. that's different. I've got it in my head to do some dumb shit because I was horny before, but after rubbing one out that goes away. that much is easily taken care of with porn if you're not stubborn. I refuse to believe it isn't easier to be a horny dipshit teenagers today in a world awash with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:49 AM
2

a little of column a, a little of column b.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:35 PM
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nah, the message I always got was that girls take a "stop it, I love it" approach to horny boys. horny boys = attention and horny girls love attention, you just gotta wear them down enough that they'll admit they want to fuck. and I'm barely too old to have grown up with ubiquitous porn and exchanges of nudes and shit this is probably an even stronger message now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 10:09 PM
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right but I know people raised this way too and the resounding description has been "I was never told how to get with girls or that girls even like to have sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 09:57 PM
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right that's my point, the guy implies the sexual part but it's never mentioned. it's downplayed. and aren't you the one who was raised religious (I might be thinking someone else?) that's it's own specific brand of repressed white folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 09:46 PM
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I don't think the type of guys who are told all that are told anything about sex at all. it's not like mom and dad are telling them "women will want your cock if you get that research position," the topic is ignored. those kinds of whitebread parents present as practically asexual, I've known them. and those kids know that there's a party scene, it's no secret, but having fun and having sex was never presented to them as an acceptable end goal in and of itself (that lifestyle is for addicts and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 09:36 PM
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I think most male problems are the result of our propensity for risk-taking behavior. that's testosterone. we're more likely to binge drink compulsively (although women are catching up) and get involved with shit like gangs and drug trafficking. we get addicted to porn and video games and gambling. that's why you see higher rates of male suicide and homicide, aside from mental illness it's largely self-inflicted. that same risk-taking behavior, on the positive end, makes us more likely to start …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 09:18 PM
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I think the male drive for sex is easier to appease through artificial means than a woman's drive for kids. I can rub one out to any number of infinite free porn sources and assuage my horniness for the time being. a chick's only option to have a family without a man's cooperation is single motherhood and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I've seen some of my relatives go through it (with ample family support) and it's brutal. men have a lot of power over women when they get to the point o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 09:11 PM
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and it's beyond disingenuous to compare that to women who risk arrest and/or brutal rape if they go out sober without their head covered let alone drunk in a miniskirt I know you agree with me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:25 PM
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I guess if you only look at back alley-type assaults and don't count shit that goes down between a guy and his girlfriend or one of his wives or slaves. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume leanin.org doesn't trivialize the concept of marital rape or domestic abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:21 PM
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in what way? Libya and Saudi Arabia both rank as safer than the US wrt sexual violence according to that survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:05 PM
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I read it. they said the US has as much sexual violence as Syria and less than the DRC. I find that assessment and their decision to lump hollywood sexual harassment in with street-level sexual violence more than a little disingenuous. they also claim the US is the sixth most dangerous country in terms of no sexual/conflict related violence. anyone can pull up actual statistics based on actual metrics and not feelings and see just how bullshit that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:53 PM
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calling sexual harassment (which is what #metoo boils down to) sexual violence is more than a little disingenuous. there are many, many places where violent sexual assault is common place and even assumed to be wanted when a woman isn't deemed to be covered appropriately. equating that with a skeezy boss playing grabass or trying to get into his employee's pants downplays the severity of violent sex crimes that happen all over the world. I'm not saying the skeezy boss shouldn't be brought to tas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:43 PM
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but would those women be better off in the third world countries that supposedly rank higher for safety? as the child of immigrants I'm offended at the sheer privilege that someone would have to have to think this. a lot of women in my immediate community here in NM have come here to escape violence in places like Honduras and Guatemala and Venezuela. life's hard for them because they're almost all roundedly poor and, often, not here legally. but-- and this is key-- life's not nearly as hard as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:00 PM
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I invite any and all of the ladies from leaning.org involved in that study to move to a safer, more progressive country like Saudi Arabia or Libya. in fact, since they're in such grave danger I think we should ban together and buy them their plane tickets. it's a human rights issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:18 PM
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what moral rulebook are you following where a person following fashion and improving their appearance is "deception?" and what does a chick wearing makeup have to do with her genetics? are you only looking to fuck girls with naturally purple eyelids? I mean if you date a chick longterm without ever realizing that she's got saggy tiddies and wears a push-up bra I don't know what to tell you. and tell me this: is a guy who sits on his ass at a computer all day going to the gym after work deception…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 12:27 PM
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Jammerly has every quality I don’t want in a partner lmao. Bitter, argumentative, has to be right, can you imagine how unpleasant living with that would be? what an unnecessarily bitchy comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:18 AM
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I've definitely seen it work, but to /u/cxj's point, the people with the temperament to make it work long term have been pretty permanently off the market since they were 19 or 20. chances are none of us sitting here discussing it fit in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:13 AM
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take this question to a forum for those people because I've never seen that opinion expressed here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:04 PM
1

who are you arguing against?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:01 PM
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so much anxiety and white knighting on behalf of some dipshit who didn't protect himself. wrap your shit and pull out. it's easy. we can wank about theoreticals all day but the fact is every time I see a story like this her birth control failed and he didn't take any precautionary measures of his own. "she said she was on the pill so I went in raw." every time. the only way to avoid a traffic accident is never to drive, you can be an anxiety case who never leaves the house for fear of what-ifs o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:38 PM
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nah, reproduction has already slowed down and new, more efficient and nutrient-dense forms of agriculture are being developed every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:14 PM
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that's what happens when people never go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:09 PM
0

yes that's correct
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:08 PM
1

so by your logic there should be protests in the street over it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:44 AM
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begging for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:31 AM
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that's like saying shitty child support arrangements affect guys' second wives. Olympic stretching.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:12 AM
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Not too sure if current dating trends depict women wanting marriage material guys at 20, more later. Not all women are marriage material
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:09 AM
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all the pictures of "incels" seem pretty average looking to me. their problem, as always, is lack of social skills and a piss poor attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:59 AM
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I'm arguing they're not following strategies at all, they're taking what they can get. the number of people who are desireable enough to strategize (consciously or unconsciously or semi-consciously) is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:16 PM
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when I inferred these were conscious decisions you said they were subconscious, now you're agreeing with me that they are conscious but based on "semi-conscious" urges. I'm just trying to cut through the backtracking and figure out what your point is because you're all over the place. so to my original claim, most people do indeed bumble around and date whoever's willing and available without applying any such strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:57 PM
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you consciously drink and put yourself in that situation. I've had a lot of drunk sex, all of which was very much my decision to have. alcohol isn't an excuse for decisions you regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:54 PM
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could've fooled me. I think you are interpreting that I am saying that sexual strategy is conscious. I am not. These urges are as subconscious as hunger. now that we've established that you were wrong in your previous comment and these are in fact conscious decisions, my question is what percentage of normal people do you think are engaging in this sort of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:44 PM
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you can certainly keep bitching and moaning on reddit if you'd rather. no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:10 PM
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bullshit. what you listed up there involves a lot of conscious choice. you don't subconsciously or accidentally have an affair that conceives of a kid, you don't stumble and unintentionally rape someone. my question is what percentage of normal people do you think are engaging in this sort of behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:08 PM
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ya that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:00 PM
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just learn social skills and stop looking for shortcuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 07:00 PM
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this is a direct result of the state forcing women to name fathers on birth certificates since child support is garnered to pay the state back for benefits. a chick who was sleeping around when her kid was conceived may very well have no clue who the father is, but because she's forced to name one she has to make an educated guess. it used to be a field that could be (and in those cases usually was) left blank. it's not a nefarious or intentional "sexual strategy," it's women being sloppy sluts …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:58 PM
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when you close your computer and log out of Instagram and go outside and encounter real people in your real life, how many of them do you think have either the interest or ability to intentionally get into any of this crazy relationship strategy calculus that you're describing? as opposed to stumbling through life and earnestly dating/marrying/having kids with whoever is interested and available? to me it the number seems so negligible as to not even be worth mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:01 PM
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flirt. with. her. the kind of step-by-step boolean system that appeals to autists doesn't exist for getting a number. you have to be able to read and react appropriately to tone and body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 05:17 PM
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People work that out pretty quick if they arent spergy AF. getting some shit from your friends when you're being obnoxious about something should be a signal to tone it down, not drop your entire social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 05:14 PM
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I disagree, in my experience from knowing quite a few of these types, all of them were socially awkward dweebs with socially awkward dweeb friends. maybe there was some socially awkward dweeb infighting but it wasn't put on blast or discussed or complained about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 03:47 PM
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On asktrp there many post about friends reacting negatively when they start lifting and being assertive. I guaran-fucking-tee what these guys think is "lifting and being assertive" comes off as "acting like a jackass and won't shut up about his 2 weeks at the gym" if they had even rudimentary social skills they wouldn't be on askTRP asking how they could have alienated their friends... an already socially awkward guy who's now high and mighty on his gym routine and going on about about nailing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 03:18 PM
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a girl with sexual hangups and arousal difficulties doesn't like casual sex... what's there to argue here? you're entitled to your preferences and it's great that you found someone who fits the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:51 PM
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Half none of them don't look like their IG photos in real life. FTFY. I've seen some of these chicks at local photo ops, they're thoroughly average if a little more sweaty and constipated-looking (from sucking in their stomachs) in real life. filters and touch up apps do the lord's work for these hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 03:34 AM
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how old is the guy saying this? a guy in his 40's or 50's who just wants to live the bachelor life won't raise any eyebrows. but a guy in his 40's or 50's also wouldn't announce his intention to "dedicate his life to getting tons of casual sex" because that sounds autistic. a guy who's 19 or 20 saying this is going to get dismissed out of hand, like a girl who's that same age who announces she "never wants to have kids and wants to travel the world instead." ok kid, knock yourself out for a few …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:54 PM
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in your obvious contempt for average "loser" "chumps." unless you consider yourself a loser and a chump? anyway you post was deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:39 PM
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you can care all you want. by all means, take up the average man's satisfaction or lack thereof with his average girlfriend as your Issue™ but somehow I doubt you really care beyond trying to prove that you, redpill stud that you are, are not an average chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:07 PM
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who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:44 PM
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depends where you live, but sure, in most places that's true. that doesn't change the fact that they date and marry equally fat, broke, average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:31 PM
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fat broke men date fat broke women. average men date average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:22 PM
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please tell me how you can tell a womans N count by looking at her? I can't and I never made that claim, but I can tell how easy she is shortly after meeting her. this isn't an arcane skill, women put their shit on blast. the average man is a loser and a chump. most people are losers and chumps. most women are also broke fat losers. what does that have to do with not having the social skills to read people at a rudimentary level? it's not a personal attack to call your shitty friends shitty when…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:16 PM
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quote me where I said shitty women are rare. there are a ton of shitty women and I've met a lot of them... more than my share, probably, although I'm no saint either. the big difference between you and I is I don't think they're difficult to spot. these chicks aren't oscar-worthy actresses, and I don't know how you personally define the "average man" but most people can tell when someone is a bitch or an asshole or, appropos of your post, a ho. your shitty, easy friends have surrounded themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:56 PM
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nah, these guys are lying with dogs and humblebragging about the fleas. you get what you give.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:11 PM
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yeah exactly, these aren't career women in the sense that they're passionate professionals, they're just bored working women who are biding their time at McJobs they couldn't care less about until they can do what they really want (but don't feel it's acceptable to admit) and become full-time moms. they give real "career women" a bad name in my opinion. smart women who are genuinely intellectually curious and aren't just putting on an act to score a high society husband are very, very desireable…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:50 PM
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first off I don't think this is an issue for anyone outside of NYC. if that's where you want to live you have to take the good with the bad, and the bad is that there's not much pressure or incentive to ever settle down. I also doubt these chicks have much to offer the kind of men they're looking for if they're that desperate... that has fuck all to do with the fact that they have careers and everything to do with their personalities. being ambitious is great but what else is there about you tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:32 PM
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pure lust and also autism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 09:13 PM
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a repeatable, falsifiable study on the human ability to pair bond showing that it's affected in a statistically significant way by a woman's notch count
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:51 PM
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it's one reason, not the biggest. I took Women are the ones who generally end the realationship because they aren't happy with their men. to mean relationships more broadly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:50 PM
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my mind could be changed, I'd just need more evidence than you're apparently to able to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:49 PM
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