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Icy_Rub1839/r/seduction30/09/22 07:46 AM
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LifestyleIcy_Rub1839/r/seduction09/09/22 09:01 PM
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Outer Game Icy_Rub1839/r/seduction21/10/22 11:42 AM
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LogisticsIcy_Rub1839/r/seduction28/10/22 10:40 AM
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I rely solely on online dating.
/r/seduction01/11/22 12:37 PM
1

I assume that they all want me dead so I avoid looking on the street.
/r/seduction01/11/22 12:35 PM
1

Maybe not, just woken up.
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:10 AM
3

They're really not. Whites and blacks still have dating on lock, although Asians are getting a lot better.
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:08 AM
1

Dominating what?
/r/seduction01/11/22 09:34 AM
2

That's proper weird. Still very short. Part of the reason he struggled. That and being below average looking didn't help.
/r/seduction31/10/22 08:35 PM
1

None at all irl.
/r/seduction31/10/22 04:24 PM
-2

Try and escalate it further next time you're with her.
/r/seduction31/10/22 03:30 PM
1

What is a Caucasian? Are you one? Is it safe?
/r/seduction31/10/22 09:05 AM
1

Married ?
/r/seduction31/10/22 08:56 AM
2

Was thinking the same. Better to go in with some perceived attraction then clueless and look stupid haha. How has your approach game been?
/r/seduction31/10/22 12:08 AM
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Thanks buddy
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:49 PM
1

For me I tend to wear an overshirt, t-shirt/shirt with dark jeans and boots. I either wear red, navy, blue or black. Oh and a bra over my shirt.
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:38 PM
7

Staring at you, smiling at you, eye contact, biting her lip and if you catch them looking at you a few times are pretty good indicators.
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:39 PM
4

Get them to meet you irl as soon as possible. You've got to strike while the iron is hot when doing OLD.
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:26 PM
1

I usually say "Hey ..., you seem interesting". This usually brings about a response. Don't compliment their appearance. It's absurd.
/r/seduction30/10/22 06:01 PM
3

Not necessarily, they might be uncomfortable. Just got to build their comfort levels. A good way is to not continue escalating when you can see that their uncomfortable. This will help to build trust and comfort. This happened to me a few months back when this girl was at my place. She was a bit uncomfortable at first and didn't really want to do anything but appreciated me being understanding. When she came over next time she jumped my bones pretty quickly. Although if it happens a few times th…
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:52 PM
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Is this a red flag in some of your experiences? I've heard that some women on dating apps specifically ask for this in order to get a free meal. It's neither here nor there. It's about what kind of interaction you want to have. Going out to dinner with someone is when you're going to find out whether they expect you to pay for everything or whether they'll go dutch. And no, you don't have to pay. Just know that you're going to screen some girls out If they're looking for a guy who pays for every…
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:34 PM
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New hairstyle, tan, muscle and cosmetic surgery.
/r/seduction30/10/22 02:20 PM
5

Wait and see if she comes back. If she does then proceed from there, if not you'll know she's gone.
/r/seduction30/10/22 11:15 AM
1

Chris Hemsworth, Gilbert Gottfried or Channing Tatum.
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:04 AM
3

I lost mine at 20 and it was after I looksmaxxed hard. Things became much easier as a result and I did well after that.
/r/seduction30/10/22 08:54 AM
6

$0.50 per woman? I'd hate to see them...
/r/seduction30/10/22 08:43 AM
1

Indubitably.
/r/seduction29/10/22 07:08 PM
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Believe whatever you want, not sure why it bothers you. If he was good looking he he'd have turned out differently in some aspects.
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:44 PM
-1

I don't know what a Caucasian is. They don't exist. If he was good looking and tall he wouldn't have had issues getting laid. I put him at about 5"5/6 judging by photos.
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:33 PM
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Because no one has ever lied about their height... The fact that he blamed a lot of his lack of success on being short despite 5"9 being average height in the US tells me he was shorter.
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:27 PM
3

He wasn't 5"9.
/r/seduction29/10/22 06:11 PM
1

Try and work on all areas of your life as best you can, ie. looks, money, "game", etc. It's all an ongoing process.
/r/seduction29/10/22 05:16 PM
97

Tbf any advice on the Internet, particularly with dating, should be taken with a pinch of salt. Anybody can claim to be anything. You can trust me though, I've slept with over 2,000 women and can teach you how to do it for only $1K...
/r/seduction29/10/22 05:13 PM
1

This is why I like to keep dates short and sweet. Less chance of this happening.
/r/seduction29/10/22 04:28 PM
1

Good man. You won't regret it.
/r/seduction29/10/22 04:00 PM
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He wasn't bad looking, but he was very short and had a tiny frame and tiny dick. He also was nowhere near good looking enough to have girls approach him, particularly hot girls, which is what he wanted. He did look Asian too and I've heard that Asian men can be discriminated against in terms of dating in the US.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:54 PM
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Wear a bra over your shirt/jacket when you go out. This will signal that you're a real go getter and an idgaf attitude. Girls will be really impressed and might ask you why you do it. Many will want to brag about how they pulled a man with such great fashion sense.
/r/seduction29/10/22 03:32 PM
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Keep her guessing. The worst thing you can make her feel is boredom.
/r/seduction29/10/22 01:43 PM
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Sometimes. Preselection is a thing. Depends on what the girl is looking for too.
/r/seduction29/10/22 07:47 AM
1

Even better. A true alpha move. A bit concerning that Malta is actually my next trip abroad...
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:35 PM
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They also threatened to punch me if I leave the country.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:17 PM
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Good idea.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:15 PM
4

Someone threatened to punch me if I set up a profile. What do you advise in this situation?
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:05 PM
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Business events, coffee shops, church are decent bers. Online dating? Probably not.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:04 PM
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How do you even get into that situation?
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:58 PM
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Compliment girls on their outfits and ask why they chose it. That's usually a good conversation starter, particularly if you've got a cool one.
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:41 PM
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If you can get someone like her once you can do it again.
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:39 PM
2

There are billions of women out there and not one is superior to you.
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:37 PM
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There are billions of women out there and not one is superior to you.
/r/seduction28/10/22 05:37 PM
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Aren't restaurants/dinners your scene?
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:41 PM
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True words.
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:39 PM
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Keep simping and paying for meals bro.
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:25 PM
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Taking them out for a meal for a first date is still a simp move no matter how you try to brush it off. I've never been conned for a free meal because I don't need dinner dates to get laid. You probably need them because you lack confidence and need to simp. Because you can't pull it doesn't mean the rest of us can't. Keep having girls use you as a meal ticket/simp, but don't try to pass it off as a good idea and advise others on what to do. Therapists are cunts btw. Therapy is useless.
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:25 PM
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Ice cream is an interesting idea. Never tried it. $20 for ice cream? It had better be amazing...
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:17 PM
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I don't care if she's hot either, no dinner date as a first date. Particularly if she suggests it. If you want to go out with girls who don't like you then you do you.
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:06 PM
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Never heard of it. I'll give it a look.
/r/seduction28/10/22 04:01 PM
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Bro, you're an actual dickhead if you go on dinner dates as a first date. If you want to be used as a free meal ticket so she can fuck another guy then be my guest. I'm abusive to idiots like you who pass off bollocks about dinner dates being a good idea. This turns other men into simps I'm not going to be happy about going on a dinner date if suggested, but I'll just politely decline or offer an alternative. If she really wants a dinner date then I'll just move on. Can't you eat food at home? B…
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:54 PM
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Lol dinner as a first date is a terrible idea.
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:30 PM
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Have they? Are you sure? Too many dinner dates seem to have clouded your eyesight.
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:15 PM
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Your advice is shit.
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:12 PM
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Good answer.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:54 PM
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You're the one suggesting getting some shitty food. Take notes of what exactly?
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:51 PM
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A museum can be fun and free. Worth a shot.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:49 PM
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Exactly.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:48 PM
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I need to draw the point home. No dinner dates or death.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:48 PM
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A factual one. I'm not joking either.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:48 PM
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True. Dinner dates are silly anyway.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:46 PM
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Who is poor? Who are you talking about?
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:46 PM
1

Well, if she suggests dinner or even breakfast I'll just assume she wants me dead.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:46 PM
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I care. I can have a good meal at home. Go for a quick fate (30-60 minutes) and then go from there.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:45 PM
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That's weird, but okay.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:44 PM
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Or just suggest quick drinks or coffee/juice for 30-60 minutes.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:43 PM
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I don't dinner dates. No way.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:43 PM
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Yes, cooking meals together is a great bonding activity. Plus higher chance of something happening. With my current gf we did this for our second date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:40 PM
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Sounds awful.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:38 PM
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There are billions of better places. I like food establishments, but not for dates with a girl I've just met as they're pointless. I've ate the same breakfast at home for the last six years and SHE thinks she can change it?
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:37 PM
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I don't eat on dates. She can eat, I won't. I've got food at home. We can do something else, but a meal? Fuck that.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:34 PM
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I'm not doing on a first date. No chance.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:33 PM
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I can get dates, I often go on multiple ones during week. I can give advice because I know what works and what doesn't, "brother". Why on earth would I go on a dinner date? Answer me that. The fact that you're in favour of them tells me you're a simp/dickhead.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:32 PM
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Or just avoid the dinner date altogether and either get quick drinks/coffee or just move on.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:23 PM
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If she suggests dinner repeatedly then just assume she wants you dead.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:21 PM
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Because they're pointless and only simps do them? So you're telling me you genuinely take girls you're interested in out to dinner?
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:17 PM
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That is very true. I never do dinner dates. Drinks, coffee, juice or a free museum work for me. Dinner is a complete no no, particularly first time meeting from an app. She has to show she's worth the time and investment.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:15 PM
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Split it for what? Drinks?
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:06 PM
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Yeah, I'm not doing a dinner date no matter what. I'll suggest coffee or drinks or whatever and if she just wants to do dinner I'll leave it as dinner dates are pointless. Money isn't an issue, time however is an issue. I never asked if I should do it, I just asked whether her suggesting a dinner date is a red flag that she's not interested and sees me as a mug.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:06 PM
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I'm open to long term or short term. I don't see what that has to do with anything.
/r/seduction28/10/22 02:03 PM
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That is a wise philosophy and I completely agree. She has to show that she's worth investing in before you do that.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:57 PM
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That she'll actually want me dead and is just using me for a free meal...
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:53 PM
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It was normal in the 1950s. Not now. There are women who actually do this for free meals, so I haven't pulled this out of thin air: https://www.yahoo.com/now/33-percent-women-admit-going-150000190.html Besides what even is the point of one?
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:53 PM
-1

Okay. That's a shame. No dinner date for me then. 🥺
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:51 PM
1

So when we go for breakfast and she's eating what will I be doing exactly?
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:51 PM
-3

I'm surprised people do this. No matter how much I like a girl I won't take her to dinner for a first date, even if I'm starving.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:48 PM
0

Wait, you actually do dinner dates for a first date? Why?
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:44 PM
-5

Exactly. Only simps do dinner dates as a first date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:38 PM
-2

Meal in a park? Seriously? I meet girls via OLD. This isn't Victorian times ffs.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:35 PM
0

I don't see why you're trying to suggest something I wouldn't enjoy (breakfast) for a first date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:32 PM
0

So what exactly do you should I do whilst she has breakfast? If she wants breakfast she can have it at home and so can I.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:25 PM
0

Well I'm not eating. I don't eat on dates. She can eat whilst I have a coffee or juice or something. I'm 29.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:20 PM
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She can eat breakfast. Sure. Other guys will try it but personally I don't see a point as it won't work. What will I be doing for breakfast exactly whilst she's eating?
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:18 PM
-1

Well you're not going to get it by doing a silly dinner date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:13 PM
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Good job on it working for you, I wouldn't try it personally. If a girl agreed to a breakfast date with me she'd have low or no interest imo.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:12 PM
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If a girl suggested a breakfast date I'd assume she wanted me dead personally.
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:09 PM
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Yes, even a nice coffee house/juice bar is good. I've actually had decent success with museum dates (they're free).
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:08 PM
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Why breakfast? Wtf?
/r/seduction28/10/22 01:04 PM
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No, I've specifically turned down dates with hot girls because I don't do dinner dates and they wanted one.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:58 PM
1

Or better yet just avoid the dinner date altogether. I never do dinner dates. No point.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:58 PM
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No meal dates. They're off the table completely. Quick drinks, coffee or even a museum. Keep the spending cost down.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:43 PM
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Not really, as she's happy with the agreement and this was laid out from the start.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:41 PM
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She could theoretically but she doesn't want to. I like it this way. Tbh I only agreed when she assured me she wouldn't see other men. I wouldn't agree otherwise.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:34 PM
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Yes, in a sense. As long as I'm upfront with her.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:23 PM
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They are. Cliché too.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:18 PM
-1

No, I've got food at home.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:18 PM
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Yeah, it's a bad sign if she's insisting on it imo. Particularly when you suggest something more casual like drinks or coffee. With my current gf however we cooked a meal together at her place for the second date. This is completely different imo and is good for bonding.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:12 PM
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She's fine with me seeing other girls as long as I tell her.
/r/seduction28/10/22 12:10 PM
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Yeah, I never do dinner. Either drinks, coffee, juice or even a museum. Dinner dates as a first date are for simps.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:59 AM
1

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:55 AM
-1

I never do dinner as a first date. I'm not a simp.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:46 AM
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Only do it once she has shown she's interested. I'd say about five dates in is okay. However my current gf and I had our second date cooking a meal together at her place. That's a good date and builds bonding. Dinner at a restaurant? No.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:44 AM
1

Be careful how? What are you talking about?
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:42 AM
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Yes, it happens. Nonetheless why would you even do a dinner date as a first date in the first place?
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:41 AM
1

Yes, I always do drinks/coffee/juice or a museum. Never dinner.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:23 AM
2

None have suggested it to me lately, I was just wondering generally. I'd never do a dinner date as a first date as I don't see a point. I've even turned down dates with highly attractive women specifically because they wanted a dinner date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:22 AM
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Never heard of it. Personally I'd rather die than go on a dinner date as a first date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 11:19 AM
1

Where do you tend to go for dates?
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:59 AM
0

Lol no, I won't do a meal. In fact I've turned down dates with hot girls specifically because they wanted to do a meal as a first date.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:49 AM
0

Well yeah, that would probably happen if she's out for a free meal. I don't do dinner dates as I don't see a point.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:46 AM
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I never do dinner either, partly because of the scenario I mentioned.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:43 AM
2

You've got to take your chances when they come around.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:37 AM
1

I haven't approached a woman in eight years personally.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:35 AM
1

Just go and have fun on the date. Alternatively you could meet her for a first date and see if you like her. You could then invite her to yours for the second or third.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:32 AM
2

Two flakes and she says this? Bro, have some self respect and move on.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:25 AM
4

Every girl is replaceable, no matter how "perfect" you think she is. Men need to remember this. This makes oneitis much easier to control.
/r/seduction28/10/22 10:19 AM
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Younger women tend to take much less time and effort in getting them back to yours in my experience. Women around 32+ tend to take a bit more time.
/r/seduction27/10/22 09:10 PM
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Sometimes, although usually it's the second or third. Depends on their age. Dinner dates are a complete no no.
/r/seduction27/10/22 08:34 PM
8

Quick drinks/coffee or even juice. That's it.
/r/seduction27/10/22 07:49 PM
1

Get better photos and get more followers.
/r/seduction27/10/22 08:04 AM
1

Sometimes they have bi friends and they might invite you for a night out with them. If they like you and there's drinking involved it can definitely lead somewhere. Happened to me with my ex.
/r/seduction24/10/22 09:54 PM
2

Where do you try to meet women? Online, bars, social events, etc? Have you tried looksmaxxing?
/r/seduction24/10/22 06:06 PM
4

I have Asperger's myself. The first step is to make yourself as physically attractive as you can. This will make it much easier. What exactly do you struggle with? Dating in general or just trying to get laid?
/r/seduction24/10/22 06:01 PM
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Lol I'm white. I'm not a silly "Cock Asian". They're not genetically predisposed to be so, I should say Western white women.
/r/seduction23/10/22 09:25 PM
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They're really not, though.
/r/seduction23/10/22 06:09 PM
1

Beauty isn't really on the eye of the beholder. Some men are just buggered due to their situation. I don't see why your friends can't meet women themselves? Aren't they a bit embarrassed that they need to be set up? I know, hence why I haven't had a female friend since.
/r/seduction23/10/22 04:53 PM
1

I normally invite them back to mine for the second date. Works quite well.
/r/seduction23/10/22 04:30 PM
1

White women aren't like for example, they're poor longterm partners. I'm assuming you're looking at others?
/r/seduction23/10/22 04:16 PM
1

What type of women do you go for?
/r/seduction23/10/22 03:47 PM
1

The richer you are the more they'll gravitate towards you. Me for example I've been told that I'm the pure, exact spitting image of the guy from the "Being Ugly: My Experience" video so I'm pretty buggered regardless.
/r/seduction23/10/22 11:22 AM
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Yeah, it is better offline. The hottest girls I've pulled have been offline.
/r/seduction23/10/22 11:15 AM
1

Women have countless options now, even the ugly ones. You have to pretty much blow the rest out of the water. You have a good base at least.
/r/seduction23/10/22 11:11 AM
1

Probably low interest on their part then. Where are you based and how do you look?
/r/seduction23/10/22 11:07 AM
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Arrange to meet her within a few days of when you first start talking. Time is your energy here.
/r/seduction23/10/22 10:57 AM
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I prefer it when they chase me, not me chasing them.
/r/seduction23/10/22 10:39 AM
0

Try and keep some contact (just not too much). Remember women have countless distractions as a result of social media and dating apps so you've got to keep yourself relevant.
/r/seduction23/10/22 10:33 AM
1

Let them vent, just don't partake in this feminine behaviour.
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:32 AM
5

If she's making you wait to have sex and you accept it, if you're paying her money and you're not even dating, etc
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:27 AM
2

Would you be happy for her to sleep with other guys while you wait? Genuine question.
/r/seduction23/10/22 08:20 AM
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Rule number one...be good looking or tall (preferably both) or at least have a good size.
/r/seduction22/10/22 11:52 PM
0

I'm the same. I never approach women as I know it'll be a guaranteed rejection. Most women want me dead.
/r/seduction22/10/22 11:37 PM
-5

Where are you based? If you're going after white women for example then this won't work.
/r/seduction22/10/22 11:32 PM
4

A month? At least date a girl who finds you attractive...
/r/seduction22/10/22 07:42 PM
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A couple of months of waiting? No way. Don't be a simp. If it goes beyond the fourth date then it's probably not happening. Date other women.
/r/seduction22/10/22 03:55 PM
2

You can't change these things, so don't dwell on them. Everyone has some insecuries. I'm white and borderline deformed for example, it's very tough for me without drastic measures.
/r/seduction22/10/22 01:53 PM
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Yes, I know. I was wondering if men actually fall for it.
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:06 AM
1

Yes, this happened to me over 10 years ago when I was 18. I learned quickly. But other men still fall for it. You live and learn.
/r/seduction22/10/22 08:06 AM
1

It did actually happen to me when I was 18. She kept stringing me along expecting me to buy her loads of stuff. I learned a very valuable lesson.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:21 PM
1

Live and learn, brother.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:17 PM
1

But trying to meet potential new girls through her is stupid, too. A lot of people push this idea that it's good.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:12 PM
1

Why would I pursue it anyway? Meeting potential girls through her isn't a good idea either.
/r/seduction21/10/22 03:03 PM
2

I mean aports, fighting, business, trains, etc I'm not sure what this girl who just wants to be friends can offer me.
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:54 PM
1

Yeah, I'm good. I don't see a reason to keep them around. My interests are pretty much all male oriented.
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:50 PM
0

I'd move on if it happened to me. I'm not prepared to simp for her.
/r/seduction21/10/22 02:46 PM
1

Either way best to not waste anytime with her.
/r/seduction21/10/22 12:40 PM
2

That is true. I actually did have it happen once when I was young and clueless and she just tried to get me to buy her shit, talk about other guys to me and do nothing in return. This only happened once and it was over 10 years ago and I swore to never let it happen again. It's humiliating.
/r/seduction21/10/22 12:39 PM
1

It's better to be a bit of both, but better to be more towards the side of player/hook up vibe.
/r/seduction21/10/22 11:53 AM
19

Think of it as a "no" Anything other than a solid yes is a no.
/r/seduction21/10/22 11:50 AM
1

Terrible idea.
/r/seduction21/10/22 11:12 AM
1

I know that this is late, but if you say that you wouldn't find me romantically/sexually attractive and ugly then why wouldn't your friends also view me like this? I haven't had a female friend for 10 years as the last one only used me to buy her things.
/r/seduction21/10/22 10:34 AM
3

Exactly. It's like telling a rich man that he makes lots of money...
/r/seduction20/10/22 09:41 AM
3

There's literally no reason to call her pretty.
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:21 PM
2

That happened to me a few times at the beginning of the year. Are you meeting them online?
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:15 PM
7

Well it was pretty silly tbh.
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:12 PM
5

So? What logical reason would you have to tell her?
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:11 PM
7

Why would you tell her she's pretty?
/r/seduction19/10/22 09:10 PM
44

I am completely numb to everything now. Breakups don't effect me. Even the death of close friends and family lately just doesn't seem to effect me anymore. I don't know why.
/r/seduction19/10/22 03:42 PM
1

Yes, I remember when I would tell dates I lived with my parents and some of them looked rather disappointed. It's not particularly sexy.
/r/seduction18/10/22 08:38 AM
8

They can, but I'd personally move on. She can be replaced.
/r/seduction17/10/22 03:57 PM
1

I've got dark blonde hair and average height...does that mean that no woman likes my hair colour?
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:57 PM
1

You make a good point. I've had something similar before when this girl grabbed me in the club to make out with me, but I thought she was going to say something and so I kept turning my head to her to say "what?". This happened about four times and then she gave up.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:38 PM
1

I have some ridiculous tales about when girls were flirting with me only for me to realise months/years later.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:36 PM
1

I thought she might just like my bracelet.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:27 PM
-4

Build up your neck and getting more muscular. Try to wear darker clothes too.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:58 AM
4

Make yourself more physically attractive, become more outgoing and sociable and actually offer something for a potential partner. Women are no longer reliant on men financially so you need to actually bring more to the table.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:59 AM
1

Cosmetic surgery.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:00 AM
1

Not just women, but everything in general.
/r/seduction15/10/22 06:32 PM
0

It's tough. At times I even think about ending it all due to it.
/r/seduction15/10/22 05:37 PM
1

Why?
/r/seduction15/10/22 04:31 PM
1

Yes, it's pretty terrible. I'm pretty horrifying to look at so I know they'll reject me anyway so I try to not to give them validation.
/r/seduction15/10/22 04:09 PM
1

I have extreme social anxiety and I assume that all women will find me ugly and are disgusted by me so I avoid looking at them at all costs.
/r/seduction15/10/22 02:17 PM
3

I avoid looking at all women on the street. I just blatantly look up at the sky when they walk past.
/r/seduction15/10/22 01:37 PM
2

Yeah, I had that before. I was trying to pretty much fuck anything and I was even going after girls I didn't find particularly attractive who in turn shot me down. I guess it served me right.
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:04 PM
3

Realise that people are either going to accept you or they won't. Their opinion isn't relevant, what matters is your opinion.
/r/seduction14/10/22 12:49 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction04/10/22 10:41 PM
-2

I'm only 5"10.5 but I tend to either put 5"10 or 5"11. It doesn't hinder me really. Although I'm decent looking so it evens itself out.
/r/seduction04/10/22 04:09 PM
273

Better than being called ugly.
/r/seduction04/10/22 02:34 PM
5

Absolutely, don't even list it on your profile. I guess if you're Liberal and you live somewhere like NYC or Seattle then it doesn't really matter, however.
/r/seduction04/10/22 12:42 PM
1

Most are fine. The one who commented here just seemed unreasonably offended over my comment and made baseless assumptions. I wasn't talking about her, I was just talking a general trend I've found.
/r/seduction04/10/22 12:19 PM
1

OLD is great from a time management perspective and if you're at least decent looking with good pictures you should get some success. However, be prepared for many girls to have absolutely ridiculous standards, even the ugly/below average looking ones.
/r/seduction04/10/22 09:32 AM
13

A decent list. The best tips generally are to looksmax, get well taken photos (professionally shot preferably), don't lie about anything (how you look, your height, job, etc), try to avoid controversial topics (politics, even horoscopes), be selective on who you swipe on and to go a few days without logging on as this can help your algorithm.
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:53 AM
1

Don't do dinner as a first date...
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:21 AM
4

You seem upset. I said tend to be easier to sleep with quickly. It's not always the case. I generally pick younger women because they're more attractive than women in their thirties and older, which they are. I don't care much for women in their thirties or older as I don't really date them.
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:03 AM
1

Exactly, the only time I would see the opposite really is in fictional TV shows. Usually when you see guys saying that they see "ugly or average" guys with hot they're girls they're usually just jealous and they're severely underrating the guy. Women's expectations have become ridiculous in many senses. I've seen ugly/below average women rejecting much better looking men due to dating apps and her abundance of options.
/r/seduction04/10/22 08:01 AM
3

It depends on the age. Women under 23/24 tend to be much more down for sleeping with you on the first ot second date, but the older they get the more difficult it tends to be.
/r/seduction03/10/22 08:58 PM
3

Have a backbone and don't be a pushover. Call out any of her bullshit and don't simp for her.
/r/seduction03/10/22 08:02 PM
1

Looksmax first and then apply game.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:14 AM
1

Meet other women whilst you're out there too.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:01 AM
2

It's better to travel to countries to meet women than to travel to see a specific woman imo.
/r/seduction02/10/22 10:45 AM
1

Wait...people genuinely go for dinner on first dates?
/r/seduction01/10/22 11:01 AM
7

If you've hooked up before you can do it again. I know you said you feel other factors were at play but you still did it. You're not hopeless. Your current mindset certainly is, however.
/r/seduction01/10/22 10:42 AM
1

So then I'll leave the date to go and eat, or she can come with me to my place.
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:40 AM
1

Why would you go for a meal on a first date anyway? Why even agree to this?
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:38 AM
1

I have a few dating apps running simultaneously. 27 isn't that much.
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:37 AM
1

I never do meals for a first date. If a girl suggests a meal for a first date I assume she has bad intentions. I even said I only go for an hour to an hour and a half.
/r/seduction01/10/22 08:36 AM
1

Doesn't really happen here.
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:10 PM
2

Most men don't have either.
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:04 PM
1

Where on earth do you live where this happens?
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:03 PM
1

Bizarre.
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:02 PM
1

Where on earth do you live? Ime couples are mostly looksmatched and when they're not the man is usually better looking.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:48 PM
1

They must have money, I doubt the women actually like them.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:47 PM
2

That is very bizarre. Women tend to date up due to having an abundance of options. Most couples I see are either looksmatched or the guy is better looking.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:40 PM
1

You must live in an alternate reality to me.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:34 PM
3

Yeah, I do muay Thai and been in several fights. Random fact but I was a football hooligan when younger so it kept me out of trouble.
/r/seduction30/09/22 05:34 PM
1

What if I get hungry and tired?
/r/seduction30/09/22 04:00 PM
1

Maybe, although I was just using my case as an example about being rejected by girls I'm much better looking than.
/r/seduction30/09/22 03:10 PM
1

I once told an ugly man on the street that it's okay to be ugly. He punched me on the tooth.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:48 PM
2

Being rejected by girls uglier than you is the worst.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:46 PM
1

Lol don't worry, it's not your fault. I was just using my situation as an example.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:05 PM
1

Myself for example I am incredibly ugly and almost subhuman, I don't think anyone could find me attractive.
/r/seduction30/09/22 02:01 PM
1

Some people are beyond help, you cheeky monkey! Myself for example I'm very ugly and bottom 2% in terms of physical appearance, I'm pretty much screwed.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:55 PM
1

Most of them have tried, they're just always rejected and have in turn given up hope. Trust me; these guys have tried everything. They're just universally unattractive to everyone. Anyone who says otherwise would be lying unless they actually dated them. Also, 100 matches on Tinder for a woman isn't a lot lmao. Most likely that's the best they can get, hence why most couples are looksmatched. Most people settle in terms of relationships.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:54 PM
1

Oh no! At least you're tall though.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:37 PM
1

Yeah, I doubt that. Women tend to date up in terms of attractiveness or finances. This is especially true with dating apps. I'll show you examples via PM.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:30 PM
1

The only way that I'd believe them that they'd prefer the janitor is if they actually dated him. Until then I'd just assume they're lying. Why do incels exist in your opinion? Why can't they find anyone? I've met people who admitted that they are universally unattractive to everyone. Explain why that is. Why do the top men get near enough all of the likes/matches on dating apps?
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:28 PM
1

Most couples are on the same level of attractiveness.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:17 PM
2

They are objective. Nobody is going to prefer a balding, 5"3, ugly looking janitor over Chris Hemsworth for example. Why do atttactive celebrities all seem to have similar attractive features? They're subjective to a point, I.e. a girl might prefer a good looking brown haired guy over a good looking blonde haired guy for example, but they are both still objectively good looking m
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:16 PM
1

Looks are pretty objective, I just see things for what they are. You just might live in exceptional circumstances where you see average/ugly men with hot women, but this is far from the norm.
/r/seduction30/09/22 01:08 PM
1

I'm pretty objective with my ratings. Also, I'm only sexually attracted to women so if anything it should be the other way around. You're probably overrating the women because they're what you find attractive.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:55 PM
1

I'm not though. I even said that the men tend to be better looking.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:49 PM
1

What a life that would be.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:30 PM
1

That can happen, ie. cheating on the rich ugly guy with the good looking pool boy.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:24 PM
1

Bizarre. Maybe you're underrating the men and overrating the women. Again, I'm sure it can happen. However it's just extremely unusual.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:21 PM
3

Usually due to money and she's using him. Like I said the man tends to be a bit better looking, this is particularly true with the advent of dating apps meaning women can pick the best looking man available.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:15 PM
1

Well I'm sure it can happen, it's just extremely rare.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:14 PM
1

Usually due to money and she's using him. Like I said the man tends to be a bit better looking, this is particularly true with the advent of dating apps meaning women can pick the best looking man available.
/r/seduction30/09/22 12:10 PM
0

I wouldn't go to Australia tbh. I'm not a fan of authoritarian governments.
/r/seduction30/09/22 11:40 AM
-7

Canberra must be the extreme exception to the rule. I've been to many places in the world and I've never seen this. Couples are usually looksmatched or the man is slightly better looking in my experience.
/r/seduction30/09/22 11:22 AM
6

That must either be extremely rare or you're just bad at rating. I honestly find that very hard to imagine.
/r/seduction30/09/22 11:18 AM
3

Advice obviously... I barely touch them. I don't want to appear inappropriate.
/r/seduction30/09/22 09:21 AM
31

I honestly don't think I have never seen an ugly guy with a hot chick, although according to people on the Internet it seems to be this every day occurrence.
/r/seduction30/09/22 07:41 AM
2

Where are you based and what's on an honest assessment of your looks?
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:41 PM
1

How often do you try to meet women? If you've pulled in the past you can do it again, remember that.
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:12 PM
1

There are billions of women in the world. She is replaceable no matter how "special" you think she is.
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:08 PM
23

No dinner dates until she's proved that she's worth it, this would probably be the fifth date minimum. You could end up spending a lot of money for nothing. A nice cafe/coffee shop is good, as long as it's not a full on meal. Even a nice juice/smoothie bar is good. Try and find somewhere nice and relaxing with minimal background noise, this will help to ensure you can have an actual conversation and build rapport.
/r/seduction29/09/22 02:33 PM
2

Treat them with kindness, but don't tolerate bullshit.
/r/seduction29/09/22 02:23 PM
3

Talk to and date other girls. Realise that this girl can be replaced, no matter who she is. This will pretty much cure your oneitis.
/r/seduction29/09/22 01:37 PM
5

That's why it's always best to see a few girls at once. If one goes wrong it doesn't really matter.
/r/seduction28/09/22 07:31 PM
3

It'll fluorescent green so can't miss me.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:59 PM
3

I'll try it next time.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:53 PM
2

Somebody suggested men should wear sports bras over their shirts in order to appear confident. What are your thoughts on this?
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:48 PM
1

I was at the gym with my friend the other week and he told me a few girls were checking me out. However I tend to be oblivious to my surroundings in general as I can get serious tunnel vision.
/r/seduction28/09/22 03:46 PM
3

Lol she probably likes the power she has over him.
/r/seduction27/09/22 08:38 PM
1

I met two ex gfs on the London tube. I guess look for signs of interest.
/r/seduction26/09/22 09:42 PM
-1

Wear a bra over your shirts or jacket. This will demonstrate confidence and an idgaf attitude.
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:54 PM
0

Good man. Even if you only train your neck your frame can simply just look more filled out. Which type of clothes do you wear too?
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:34 PM
2

Which hairstyle do you currently use? Bulking up, particularly training your neck, will certainly help you appear more masculine. Maybe even try growing some facial hair and having a slightly shorter hairstyle.
/r/seduction26/09/22 03:27 PM
3

It's hard to tell with girls in customer service. They might just be being kind and doing their job.
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:16 PM
1

Don't take it personally, just see it as part of the game.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:10 PM
3

You have to be very good looking/rich to do well here. Even below average looking women have tons of options.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:10 PM
0

Because many women have had bad experiences with rejecting men to their face, so they tend to use less direct forms of rejection.
/r/seduction21/09/22 05:08 PM
2

It's good to keep in regular contact, particularly these days when women have dating apps, IG and FB meaning that you could be replaced easily. You don't have to go overboard, just send her things you know she'll like (like a funny meme) and say it reminds you of her.
/r/seduction20/09/22 08:21 PM
2

That's why it's best to see multiple women at once rather than waiting on one. If you waste multiple months, or heaven forbid years, on this one woman and nothing happens then where does that leave you?
/r/seduction20/09/22 03:57 PM
1

You're probably better off finding a woman who actually likes you and finds you attractive rather than one who makes you wait.
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:49 PM
1

Your first point: Well, that's nice. I'm not sure why I'd have to include her in my group. Second point: Again, we do fine without women in our group. Why do they need to be included? Doesn't she have her own friends?
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:39 PM
1

My male friends are like that. A woman cannot be my "brother". I also look at how well they'd have my back in certain situations.
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:13 PM
1

Not everything. I kind of see me and my male friends as a sort of small gang/brotherhood.
/r/seduction20/09/22 01:08 PM
90

I guess it's best when the other person considers you more attractive than themselves and they're doing the chasing.
/r/seduction20/09/22 10:11 AM
1

What else would I do?
/r/seduction20/09/22 07:39 AM
1

If I were to go on a date with a girl and she said that we'd be better off as friends should I accept this silly offer?
/r/seduction19/09/22 09:10 PM
1

I have male friends for other things. What can these female friends bring?
/r/seduction19/09/22 09:09 PM
1

Better than needing your female friends to set you up lmao.
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:55 PM
5

Yes, generally that is a very good sign. How else is she acting?
/r/seduction19/09/22 05:01 PM
1

There are far better ways to meet women.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:56 PM
1

Yeah, good company and sex.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:33 PM
1

Okay well you keep wasting your time lol.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:28 PM
1

And they will know that you've already been friendzoned by her, hence being lower value in her eyes.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:23 PM
1

Many women have their guard up about sleeping with you on the first date and don't want to seem like a slut. This makes it easier from that perspective.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:16 PM
2

Fair enough, I get you. I tend to just go for an hour first date and then invite them to mine for the next. Works pretty well.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:03 PM
2

My bad, been busy so misread. Yeah, it's ridiculous how some guys will put up with such nonsense.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:01 PM
2

First is a bit much, but after the third? Yeah, it's probably not happening.
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:50 PM
1

So why would they consider you?
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:49 PM
1

Me or him?
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:48 PM
2

So how long would you be prepared to wait for mediocre sex with a woman who doesn't even like you?
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:46 AM
2

Not just sex, but like it or not sex is an important part of dating. I don't see why I'd wait to have sex. I don't see a point.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:41 AM
4

You don't have it on the first date and you can spend time building a "connection" as you call it in between. However as I said if it goes beyond the third she's probably not interested and you're wasting your time.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:40 AM
2

Yes, so therefore don't waste your time on a woman who is wasting your time by making you wait.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:38 AM
3

Yes, okay. Therefore I'll just find another woman who is attracted to me/likes me and won't make me wait instead of wasting my time.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:36 AM
1

If she's attracted to you then why is she making you wait? Even if she is attracted to you you could easily find another girl who is attracted to you who won't make you wait for some silly reason.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:18 AM
2

If she finds you attractive why wouldn't you try to sleep with her on the first, second or third date? Is the wait really worth it? Again, if she's making you wait then you could easily find another girl whom actually likes and is attracted to you instead of one who is wasting your time, such as the one making you wait.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:14 AM
1

Yeah, that's pretty unusual for that to happen. Why would they want to set you up with their friends?
/r/seduction19/09/22 09:15 AM
2

Oui.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:41 AM
1

Give examples... I've got girlfriends and women I date, that's enough.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:38 AM
1

Nope, sorry. Not buying that at all. I'm not waiting a long time for sex. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard. As I said if she starts pulling that card out I'll just move on. Waiting for sex is never worth it so I'd rather just spend my time with someone who actually likes me and finds me attractive, not one who wastes my time.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:22 AM
1

Well that's nice if they do. Why should I hang around with them? What would they possibly bring?
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:19 AM
1

They really don't, though. In fact you often need to watch your banter around women. There's even a campaign regarding it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:18 AM
-4

Because they can't be that interested if they're making you wait. As I said they probably just see me as a mug/idiot if they're making me wait. There are plenty of other women out there who are interested and will sleep with me quicker. I'd rather spend my time with them than some woman who makes me wait for the Hell of it (which is never worth anyway). I'm a man anyway, why would I care about an emotional connection for sex?
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:16 AM
1

Being able to tease each other in a joking way is banter. You'd be honestly shocked by some of the things me and my mates say to each other. It's good as it's helped me to become thick skinned. Nope, I just have a very diverse set of friends with various lifestyles.
/r/seduction18/09/22 11:18 PM
1

Yeah, I'm not sure about that. If you look at viewing figures for these sports then you'll see who watches it more. Why am I wrong about banter?
/r/seduction18/09/22 11:11 PM
1

Women don't tend to be as good at banter as men. It's generally harder. I have a wide variety of friends, it's just none happen to be women.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:58 PM
1

Piss ups equals getting drunk. How many women like football compared to men? Or boxing/MMA? Men are generally better at banter than women on average. Sure, you might be able to find women into these things but they're pretty rare.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:57 PM
7

Up to a month!? Wow, that's mental to me. If I don't have sex by the fourth date I give up.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:32 PM
-1

Why would they not mind waiting if they "really like you"? That's a contradiction.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:22 PM
8

How long do you tend to wait?
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:18 PM
12

That's a big leap... Got a source for that?
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:54 PM
20

Based on what?
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:40 PM
37

Seems creepy and dishonest...therefore I say go for it! In all seriousness though you should only join such a group if it's what you actually want to do, if you meet women there then great but it shouldn't be your main objective.
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:25 PM
6

Relax bro, I've had little sleep and been travelling.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:59 PM
1

Tell me what women would really be interested in going on piss ups, fighting, football, banter, etc? I've never met one. Yes, we all have a variety of interests but I tend to be very choosy about whom my male friends are. I often choose them on based on how well they'd have my back in certain situations. Also tbh I kind of prefer being by myself most of the time.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:32 PM
5

The wait is never worth it. You could easily find a girl who is into you and will sleep with you quicker. If it's gone over the third date she probably sees you as a mug.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:25 PM
34

I don't understand why on earth you'd wait to have sex. What's the point? Genuine question. If it goes beyond the third date I just assume I'm wasting my time.
/r/seduction18/09/22 05:13 PM
2

Maybe, although if you've been friendzoned you might already get a rep amongst her girlfriends as a guy who was unworthy of her. This can happen. Yeah, I've always been fascinated with them. I have weird obsessions like that.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:23 PM
1

My interests are generally very male centric: sports, trains, fighting, etc. I don't see much point. I'm not sure what I'd get out of this dynamic, particularly if she's attractive.
/r/seduction18/09/22 01:45 PM
2

By meeting with/talking to several women at once. One woman isn't important. Getting hung up on one shows you are rather needy.
/r/seduction18/09/22 12:06 PM
1

Look your best. Sometimes when you go out alone girls may even approach you and invite you over to where their friends are. It's happened to me.
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:56 AM
1

How do you even become friends with a woman? Haven't had one in years, don't really see much of a point.
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:43 AM
0

The last part is a terrible idea.
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:02 AM
1

Women who friendzone you generally won't wing man you believe it or not. Plus it's a terrible idea to remain "friends" with a woman who friendzoned you.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:54 AM
1

I don't actually have any female friends tbh. I don't even know how to even get one.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:51 AM
1

How do you even make female friends? Genuine question.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:43 AM
-4

Really? Honestly I've always heard it's not good to have female friends.
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:19 AM
2

What's wrong with being a white guy?
/r/seduction16/09/22 10:35 PM
1

The Iceman Cometh with a good post...eth.
/r/seduction16/09/22 11:20 AM
2

Yes, that's the best philosophy. Take what is good and discard what isn't.
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:59 PM
3

Apologies, I misinterpreted your comments. Many people on Reddit just assume you're an "incel" if you like Wheat Waffles, even if he offers good advice.
/r/seduction15/09/22 04:16 PM
2

I said that I don't agree with the majority of things he says, but this video and his videos on dating apps for men are correct.
/r/seduction15/09/22 02:35 PM
7

Good luck, man. Remember to try not to get hung up on her, particularly if the feelings aren't reciprocated. Plenty more girls out there and you're only young.
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:12 PM
8

Whilst I don't agree with most of what Wheat Waffles says, he does a good video analysis on it here: https://youtu.be/azBEWpbtlxM
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:06 PM
5

Is she also pleased to see you when you start talking to her? Watch for body language too.
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:02 PM
56

She makes conversations easy, she wants to spend time with you, she laughs at things you say (no matter how unfunny) AND she touches you/bumps into you. The last one is a huge sign.
/r/seduction15/09/22 11:55 AM
2

Beard, tan and bulk up if you decide to go bald.
/r/seduction14/09/22 09:48 AM
5

Correct. People need to remember that it's a good thing that it's your fault as you have control over your life.
/r/seduction14/09/22 07:25 AM
2

Thank you, I will give it a look.
/r/seduction13/09/22 11:16 PM
0

No, it's genuinely what I believe.
/r/seduction13/09/22 10:57 PM
1

That would be fun. BTW, this is random, but I love the name Julia.
/r/seduction13/09/22 10:09 PM
1

But how can you gauge it on a first date? Sometimes it takes a bit longer for it to develop.
/r/seduction13/09/22 10:08 PM
1

Thank you, although I am a perfectionist so I tend to over analyse.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:29 PM
1

But what is this elusive spark exactly? It's incredibly ambiguous.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:27 PM
2

Well yes it is. However if you haven't used either and your pics are accurate/you haven't lied then it may be something else.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:18 PM
1

Do women you're interested in call you it too?
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:17 PM
7

Absolutely correct and anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is probably trying to sell you something. They're not EVERYTHING but they need to find you at least decent looking to have a chance.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:22 PM
2

Why? Generally that's what it means. Looks aren't everything, but they're certainly an important factor.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:21 PM
2

It's a very important factor, BUT it isn't everything. Often it is what is meant by "no connection", that I do know.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:19 PM
1

Yes, "cheeky monkey" is used in a more endearing way here.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:10 PM
2

Why? It could be flirting on their part.
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:48 PM
-6

That's a shame.
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:43 PM
-13

Have any of them called you a "cheeky monkey"?
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:36 PM
0

I think as long as you're not lying in your photos it shouldn't be an issue.
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:28 PM
1

If she says this after meeting you via an app (obviously seeing your pictures) is this still true?
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:46 PM
1

What else would it mean?
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:15 PM
-16

This. It just means she finds you ugly. I wouldn't look too much into it.
/r/seduction13/09/22 03:04 PM
4

It's just gibberish really. What they really mean is that they have better options.
/r/seduction13/09/22 02:56 PM
1

Have you tried online dating at all?
/r/seduction13/09/22 09:28 AM
0

Lol I obviously don't talk about such things when I'm out with women...
/r/seduction12/09/22 11:15 PM
4

It's just what a few have told me regarding their experiences.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:42 PM
-4

Yes, from a few years ago. Depends on location and age too.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:48 PM
6

You're better off trying irl. Women in general get huge amounts of messages on online dating and hot women get an even higher amount. However the better looking you are the higher your odds. You've still got to stand out and not simp. Make actual witty anr interesting conversation.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:17 PM
-1

Maybe bimax/Lefort 1 for slightly retruded maxilla.
/r/seduction12/09/22 07:46 PM
2

Exclusivity in itself is a bit silly, but this is even worse.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:13 PM
-3

Fair enough, I've always assumed that women tend to dislike white guys, particularly white women. It depends where you live I guess.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:01 PM
1

Actually, not necessarily. Some guys have agreed to exclusivity with a girl despite not actually being in a relationship with her. It's mental.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:59 PM
-20

I think that white guys are generally liked the least by women, but you can either be a victim or you can own it.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:56 PM
-1

Lefort 1 for slightly retruded maxilla and maybe under eye fillers. These are all I really need. My hairline/is actually really good so I don't need a HT.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:54 PM
1

Looksmax in all areas. I'm saving up for a few surgeries until I approach any woman. It'll cost a lot but I'm prepared to do it. You've got to pass a certain fresh hold beforehand.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:46 PM
9

Looksmax in all areas. I'm saving up for a few surgeries until I approach any woman. It'll cost a lot but I'm prepared to do it. You've got to pass a certain fresh hold beforehand.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:34 PM
61

If you're the guy that they want approaching them then it'll work.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:04 PM
16

Glad to hear your story. Ironically I've actually heard a lot of white guys complaining that being white is a hindrance as no woman likes white guys.
/r/seduction12/09/22 04:47 PM
9

Exclusivity without being in an actual relationship is a bit absurd. Don't agree to that.
/r/seduction12/09/22 03:06 PM
1

Personally I think it should be the woman who brings up exclusivity. Just keep seeing her and she should eventually bring it up.
/r/seduction12/09/22 03:05 PM
5

Asked be your gf on the first date!? That's Hella quick... Will she be talking about marriage after a month?
/r/seduction11/09/22 11:11 PM
1

Glad to hear.
/r/seduction11/09/22 08:15 PM
2

Okay, I was being kind...
/r/seduction11/09/22 07:44 PM
120

Sounds like she's using you as she sees you as a bit of a simp. Move on and find someone else, preferably someone who actually likes and respects you.
/r/seduction11/09/22 06:03 PM
2

How accurate are your photos to how you look irl?
/r/seduction11/09/22 04:28 PM
2

Assuming you're not lying in your photos on Tinder and you're getting a lot of likes/matches on there then you should be fine in person, too.
/r/seduction10/09/22 12:30 PM
2

Be ambiguous. Say something like "I could always do with another" in a cheeky/funny way.
/r/seduction10/09/22 11:35 AM
3

Looksmax as best as you can and then worry about "game" imo. Get the basics right first.
/r/seduction10/09/22 10:11 AM
2

His books are pretty good too, particularly "The Unchained Man". I'd definitely recommend them.
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:36 PM
2

Have you read his books too?
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:33 PM
3

Yeah, he even delves into the importance of looks and how you should make yourself as attractive as you can. He also says to not dwell on single things, but rather the bigger picture. He's often not mentioned but he's one of the few I actually like.
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:30 PM
2

Yeah, he's quite active on YouTube and on blogs.
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:23 PM
1

I've had a lot of failed dates/rejections lately too.
/r/seduction09/09/22 09:01 PM
2

Just try to make her feel as comfortable and at ease as best you can.
/r/seduction09/09/22 08:54 PM
2

I think it's ridiculous, but I have been able to be successful with girls who have said it. She might just be shy and lacking in confidence.
/r/seduction09/09/22 08:52 PM
1

Thank you, but I'm not trolling. I genuinely believe this.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:12 PM
1

It's not bad, it's just very fast.
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:07 PM
1

Exclusive after three dates? Damn...
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:04 PM
1

Damn, that's pretty brutal. Hopefully your next few years will be prosperous in whichever venture you try. Where are you located?
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:57 AM
1

Thank you, but I'm not really sure I am. I'm being serious too.
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:52 AM
2

Exactly. It's quite low if you're already 6"3, handsome and jacked...
/r/seduction08/09/22 10:47 PM
-2

It really is. It's quite degrading too.
/r/seduction08/09/22 09:09 PM
1

No, if a woman looks at me I assume that she finds me hideous and repulsive. They may even look at me in complete awe over how I look, but ime it isn't good.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:55 PM
1

Probably not a good sign, I'd forget about it.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:44 PM
1

Maybe, but there might be a limit. If you look REALLY bad there's only so far it can take you.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:39 PM
1

Already have done, no luck.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:32 PM
1

If you're ugly then women pretty much want you dead.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:32 PM
2

My main issue is that I'm a very ugly man and no matter what I seem to do I have no luck with women at all. I now just completely avoid looking at them on the street/making any eye contact with them as it would just give them validation and I just assume that they all would find me ugly/want me dead.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:50 PM
1

Yeah, I actually fight in muay Thai.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:36 PM
1

Not sure, my situation is pretty hopeless. Approaching would be pretty humiliating and rejection would be pretty much guaranteed.
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:38 PM
2

Yes, every day. Most want me dead.
/r/seduction08/09/22 06:35 PM
1

I've lost most motivation for those kinds of things unfortunately.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:25 PM
1

I've got some money.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:20 PM
1

No, my situation is pretty much fucked. I live in London.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:12 PM
-3

Yes, it doesn't make a difference.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:09 PM
1

I'm really ugly. It's just something I have come to accept.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:07 PM
2

29.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:04 PM
3

I assume they all find me ugly/want me dead so I don't. Plus it just gives them validation.
/r/seduction08/09/22 05:03 PM
5

You should have made a move there and then. Although she may do this to a lot of guys with no intention of doing anything. I wouldn't worry about it.
/r/seduction08/09/22 04:31 PM
4

This is incredibly vague... In what way did you "vibe"?
/r/seduction08/09/22 04:25 PM
42

You're doing better than me, I haven't approached a woman in eight years. If you've gotten results in the past you should be able to get results again. Nothing stopping you from repeating your past success.
/r/seduction08/09/22 04:23 PM
1

I've done fine with dating apps and I've always gotten good results. They're not the problem. My issue is irl.
/r/seduction08/09/22 04:06 PM
1

Yes, I agree with that. But you should also maximise your physical appearance as much as possible. My physical appearance is so bad atm that it does repulse people. I'm pretty kind to everyone.
/r/seduction08/09/22 03:11 PM
1

Thanks, I'll watch it. As I said I think it's both a physical and mental issue with me. I can sort my physical side out as it's really bad and I can also work on other aspects.
/r/seduction08/09/22 02:30 PM
1

I've had quite a lot of unsuccessful dates lately, this has really effected my confidence.
/r/seduction08/09/22 09:12 AM
1

Thank you but I don't believe I am at all.
/r/seduction08/09/22 09:04 AM
1

No, not at all. I've been rejected a lot in the last few months.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:59 AM
1

Yes, it is.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:56 AM
1

Women can still get plenty of options irl too, whilst the average man gets nothing. Dating is hard in the sense that they get so much choice but get to pick the best ones. Well he succeeded in his goal then. I wouldn't mind if it were constructive criticism but he just did it to hurt my confidence. I've been told that I'm the spitting image of the guy in the "Being Ugly: My Experience" video. Again, you haven't seem what I look like. I've given up ever finding a loving partner as it's impossible…
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:52 AM
1

These "women who don't fit beauty standards" can still open any OLD profile and get tons and tons of matches/likes. Men can't get that. These women also don't want to date ugly men. Who said anything about women? I was pointing out my situation as it's hopeless. I don't hate women for the fact that every single woman in the world finds me ugly, I just accept it as part of life. As I said some guy in a previous thread I made was calling me ugly and telling me I've got no hope no matter what. That…
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:37 AM
1

Maybe because those men know that approaching women is futile for them. Women don't like them.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:24 AM
1

You're discussing extreme outliers, even a guy in another thread said that I was beyond help/hope due to how I look. What even was the point in the OP? "Be confident" is the most cliché saying where it's at the point of meaninglessness. Again, you haven't seen how bad I look. You'll change your opinion if you saw me.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:22 AM
1

Yes, but like I said you'll only her platonic friends. You won't get romantic ones. You just have to accept reality that some people are beyond hope. If that's you then it sucks, but it's life.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:14 AM
1

Just say "You seem like a nice girl, we should hang out".
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:12 AM
1

They'll only like you as a friend if you're ugly but have a "nice personality". You haven't seen what I look like so you don't know how hopeless the situation is.
/r/seduction08/09/22 08:05 AM
1

I'll give them a go, but I think my situation is irredeemable at this point.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:56 AM
2

But her advice isn't good. What even is the point of this post? If you're ugly to everyone how does it help?
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:51 AM
1

Hard to be confident if you're universally ugly.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:46 AM
1

Some guy on this post said that I was universally ugly to everyone and had no hope which doesn't help. Women can also ACTIVELY avoid you at all costs on public transport, walking on the street, etc. I'll give those books s read.
/r/seduction08/09/22 07:43 AM
0

Therapists cost too much. Non verbal rejections exist. You just need to look at their reactions. Plus looking at them/approaching them simply gives them validation.
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:49 PM
0

Also, you seem to contradict yourself a lot too. If I'm ugly then there is no hope. That's a fact. No amount of silly self improvement can make me attractive to a woman lol. Ugly means ugly to everyone in the world.
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:30 PM
0

I really don't know how to meet them irl. I don't look at them in the street either. I just assume they find me hideous. When I say "dead" I don't literally mean DEAD, I mean they just wish you didn't exist and had never been born. Women only want certain men approaching them.
/r/seduction07/09/22 11:07 PM
1

Keep telling yourself that. You offered no useful advice so I was pointing out where you were wrong.
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:41 PM
1

My thread never got removed, I deleted it. Ah, as embarrassing as being "subhuman" and ugly?
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:40 PM
0

I've done fine on dating apps before, I can do it again. I already do that. Doing that. Maybe. True. No, I assume that every woman on the street wants me dead so I don't even look at them. I only do OLD instead. Haven't approached a woman in eight years. Thank you for the comment.
/r/seduction07/09/22 10:19 PM
1

Ironic.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:50 PM
1

So if I am ugly like you claim, what is the next step? Is it completely over for me? Will no woman ever find me attractive?
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:46 PM
1

Touch her a little bit during the date, this will help to gouge her level of interest. Bring up sexual topics and only go for dates around an hour at a time.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:42 PM
1

Your mindset is very negative I've noticed.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:36 PM
1

Looks aren't really subjective.
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:31 PM
1

In life you need to accept things for what they are, not what you want them to be. You need to then adapt accordingly.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:22 PM
1

They have hundreds of options so you've got to be the absolute best one to get anywhere. There's nothing wrong with it, you just have to accept it for what it is and act accordingly. Your negative mindset doesn't help.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:21 PM
1

That's a fair assessment. No I'm not very flirty. I don't read body language very well.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:00 PM
1

If you did give actual useful and constructive feedback/criticism I'd be more willing to take your advice on board. The fact is that as women on OLD have so many options they can afford to be very picky, no matter how attractive you are.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:55 PM
1

Good answer. Thanks.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:41 PM
1

I take advice which is actually useful, if you can't offer any useful advice then I'll discard it. Same as anything. You were the one calling me ugly, so there's nothing much you can do if you're ugly. You're pretty much buggered. The only legit advice is to maximise your looks as much as possible.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:37 PM
1

Lol that's some of the worst advice I've ever read. I've done all of these things, but according to you I'm universally ugly so it doesn't matter what I do. Nah, some people are c***s. I'm probably one. Lol after you were calling me universally ugly and now you're all "positive mindset, bro!" Again, you said I was ugly. This would be impossible if that were true. You're contradicting yourself.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:30 PM
1

Why am I probably ugly? What should I do? How can you get better if you're ugly? Give examples.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:20 PM
1

Ugly means you won't get anyone. Objectively above average given my life experience. Again...if I'm ugly what should I do? Give me a good solid answer.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:18 PM
1

You said I was ugly. That means I should give up. What else am I meant to take from that?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:12 PM
1

So how do YOU recommend getting above average?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:12 PM
1

Bro, a minute ago you were telling me to give up as I'm ugly so I've got zero chance. Now you're telling me I have to improve. Which is it?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:10 PM
1

So what is your solution if I'm ugly to everyone in the world?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:08 PM
1

Okay we've established that I'm universally ugly, what is your solution is my question?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:06 PM
1

OK, so I'm ugly. Happy? What's the solution?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:05 PM
2

How am I getting dates then if I'm objectively ugly? That doesn't make sense. I've also been very successful in the past so how do you explain that? Also, if I am ugly what should I do? Give up on life and dating in general? What's the solution?
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:04 PM
1

Same way some are way above my level whilst others are way below. It's just life. By acting disinterested/rude on the date. That's a general sign that she considers you a freak/wants you dead ime. I never said you can be successful just by being nice, just that I was kind in spite of her being rude.
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:55 PM
1

Nope, I am kind to everyone and treat all with respect. However I didn't understand the rudeness. How could I possibly overestimate my own attractiveness?
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:33 PM
1

I didn't call her ugly per se, just below my level. She was the one who implied I was a freak by being rude/uninterested even though I was kind and polite.
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:18 PM
2

There are people objectively better looking than me, just as there are people objectively uglier. Same as near enough anyone. That's a baseless assumption.
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:12 PM
1

I know. Lesson learned.
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:10 PM
1

Based on what? If you're right and I am below average what's your solution? Give up on dating/life? Never try again as it's hopeless?
/r/seduction07/09/22 06:09 PM
0

Again, she saw what I looked like in pics so I don't know how that's possible.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:53 PM
1

Not just one, but several lately have failed. This just hurt more as she was several points below me looks wide which is just embarrassing.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:52 PM
0

Then why would she agree to go on a date with me if I "wasn't her type"? That makes zero sense. I didn't say that she should be enthralled, just that she shouldn't be delusional and act above me like I'm subhuman. I at least treated her kindly and with respect. I am objectively above her looks wise, that's indisputable.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:47 PM
0

Nope, I'm kind to all women and treat them all the same. I always ask good, non-boring questions. However like I said many women have become deluded due to OLD.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:31 PM
0

Where else would I go? A nice bar or coffee house are the only options. Maybe she's just delusional due to Tinder and social media.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:12 PM
-3

It's pretty bad being rejected by a below average/ugly girl. I know.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:07 PM
1

Just a small bar.
/r/seduction07/09/22 03:59 PM
1

Do t have any female friends, let alone lesbian ones.
/r/seduction07/09/22 03:50 PM
1

Yeah ofc it's not a big deal...it's just that these are things that are deal breakers and mean that they can't find a partner. Men don't "masturbate" more about these things than women, these are things which women choose partners based on. Your advice is useless. Women are the ones trying to change society's standards of beauty rather than actually making themselves more attractive, look at plus sized models and "beauty at every size".
/r/MensRights02/09/22 11:10 AM
1

I have a feeling that you believe that there's "somebody for everyone".
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:15 AM
1

You've said it several times about these women not being able to get men that they're attracted to. This makes them voluntary celibate. What are your solutions for these male incels then? For "femcels" all they need to do is go to the gym, put on makeup and have realistic standards. These men can't make themselves taller, can't change their race, can't change their face unless they're willing to spend thousands on risky surgery. How on earth do they become incels in the first place? It doesn't m…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 09:10 AM
1

Women can only be voluntary celibate. The fact that you admit that they can't lock down men they're "attracted to" goes to show that they're only going after the top men.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:22 AM
1

Where did I say that women are fucking all over the place? I don't care what they do, my whole point is that they have countless options for both relationships and hookups. Whether those options are any good on the other hand is another matter. However it's better than having no options which the majority of men have.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:18 AM
1

And most men don't have anyone sexually interested in them. Obviously it's much easier for men to orgasm and women need to be selective over whom they have sex with, blame biology for that. However that is why only 10-15% of men are attractive to women as they want the best man available. Women are the choosers whilst men are the suitors. It doesn't matter if these men have social skills or not, most of then are universally unattractive to women. Most women have poor social skills as well but it…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:14 AM
1

I don't watch porn either. Never seen the point.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 11:35 AM
1

Yes they can. All they need to do is open a Tinder or any other online dating app and they will get inundated with messages and likes/matches. The opposite doesn't happen. However as I said keeping him around is another thing.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:55 AM
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Because incels are a male problem. These men can't get sex with ANYONE. These women CAN get sex with men they're attracted to, it's just that they cannot get them to commit in most cases. They're voluntary celibate.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 10:19 AM
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Why does it bother you if women can't be incel?
/r/MensRights31/08/22 07:54 AM
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I'm not an incel so i don't know why you're making the first point to me. The OG incel wasn't a woman, incels have been spoken about for hundreds of years. Women can still get sex from men that they're attracted to, it happens all the time. However actually getting him to commit is another thing. However ugly/below average women still will have hundreds of options on online dating and social media. The opposite isn't true at all. Yes, I agree that women need to be more selective with regards to …
/r/MensRights30/08/22 11:18 PM
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Any woman can get sex, the difference is that they can't always lock down the men they want the most. The vast majority of men don't get anything and most men will become incel soon if trends continue. I'm a heterosexual male so I wouldn't have sex with a man, so that's a strange point. Involuntary celibacy means that you can't get ANYTHING, not just the ones you're attracted to.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:21 PM
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There is a debate as to whether women can even be incels.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 11:39 AM
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Modern Western women don't tend to make great partners either. This isn't a man v woman thing.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 01:07 PM
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So what would your advice to these men be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:08 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn't mean much, look at the "beta bux" dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:14 AM
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Average women still get hundreds of likes/matches on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:42 AM
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You're only thinking of the good looking men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 08:41 AM
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No, not at all. I am very pleasant with them. However I avoid looking at women on the street at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:04 PM
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But I'll admit surgery is my last hope or I'll have to look at more extreme permanent measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:24 PM
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You're utterly delusional if you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:27 PM
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Yeah I don't really trust Turkey tbh, I heard horror stories about it. Italy maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:32 PM
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English.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:47 PM
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They'd like a certain partner but it doesn't mean they'll get them. A lot of people get married to people they're not attracted to, look at "dead bedrooms". It doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:34 PM
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Well time will tell. To sum up my situation: look up the "Being Ugly: My Experience" guy on YouTube. I was told I look like him and Nigel Farage. I'm very ugly so this is my only hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:33 PM
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Well time will tell. To sum up my situation: look up the "Being Ugly: My Experience" guy on YouTube. I was told I look like him and Nigel Farage. I'm very ugly so this is my only hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:32 PM
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How do you know if I have people attracted to me now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:31 PM
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Yeah, it's the only good advice. Your advice is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:10 PM
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I'm not fat, I'm in good shape. I'm currently saving for cosmetic surgery. After that my dating struggles will be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:09 PM
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Why should I listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:59 PM
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The only method is to make yourself as attractive as possible. Your method doesn't work for 95% of men. You're talking gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:51 PM
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Maybe because your advice is useless. It will only work if the guy is good-looking. You talk as if unattractive men haven't tried all those things. The point is that it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:52 PM
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Nope, not in the slightest. I have severe social anxiety and aspergers so it's OLD or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:00 PM
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It's worked for me...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:40 PM
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Yes, acquiring wealth is also legit. Maximising your physical appearance and your wealth are the only legitimate dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:35 PM
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Which is done by maximising your physical appearance...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:22 PM
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People settle, doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:09 PM
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Yes so they'll only pick good-looking, tall, muscular or rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:02 PM
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The ONLY legit advice is to make yourself as attractive as possible. All other advice is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:57 PM
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Well then stick to that. I usually ignore them if they ever talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:53 PM
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Irl doesn't reduce them but keep telling yourself that. If you fail on online dating you'll fail irl too. Online is much more convenient and time management friendly, whilst irl you have to approach like some pathetic dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:53 PM
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I have made myself as attractive as possible and reaped the rewards on online dating as a result. It was the easiest and best solution. Everything else follows. If you yourself want to humiliate yourself by approaching women irl then go right ahead as you just make yourself look like a cunt. Some of us have a bit more self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:51 PM
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I haven't approached/talked to a woman irl since 2014, but online dating is much more convenient for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:45 PM
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The only solution is to make yourself as attractive as possible. If you're too ugly for online dating you'll be too ugly for real life too. Your advice is horrible for the average man as he'd probably end up on a register if he started "approaching irl".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:44 PM
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I'm not an incel I'm just calling out your useless/terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:39 PM
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Why would an ugly/average man have a lot of options? Give a reason other than money/resources. The opposite happens all the time however.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:38 PM
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Ugly men having an abundance of options? Unless he's got a huge amount of money it's never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:35 PM
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6.5? Wowwwww that is so attractive. I'd love to be rated a 6.5...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:34 PM
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6.5 is still average/not attractive. Doesn't mean much. You're either hot to women or they want you dead, no in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:33 PM
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Well the opposite doesn't happen (ugly men with an abundance of options rejecting good looking women).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:32 PM
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So? It's the same irl where women still have an abundance of options and only find a small subset of men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:31 PM
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Tinder IS real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:22 PM
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They do though, any woman can create a Tinder or dating app and have hundreds of suitors. Why would that make us all Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:20 PM
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It is though, women date up whilst men date down. I've seen some very ugly women rejecting good looking men due to them knowing that they already have hundreds of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:17 PM
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You talk as if women don't already have hundreds of options irl too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:15 PM
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Okay well you keep on coping with approaching irl like a dickhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:13 PM
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I got hit on twice last time I went out, but I ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:12 PM
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Nope, not possible. Online dating or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:12 PM
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Again there are no other ways to meet women. I haven't approached a woman since 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:10 PM
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There are no other ways to meet women. Although admittedly I have been rejected by women on Tinder dates way below my looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:08 PM
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Why are you so obsessed with messages? Messages don't mean ANYTHING on online dating. What matters is getting actual dates/laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:07 PM
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Below average women still get a lot more messages than average men on OKCupid if you want to talk about how messages are supposedly really important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:06 PM
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So what if they're "messaging them"? That doesn't mean anything. I don't care about messages on online dating, I only care about getting actual dates on it. It's almost impossible for women NOT to "message" men they deem as less attractive if they consider 80% below average. Take into account that this study was done in 2009 too, before dating apps. Me personally I do fine on online dating and nearly all my lays have been on it. I rely on it exclusively. Although I am pretty good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:05 PM
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Obviously men want the most attractive women ideally, who wouldn't? The point is though that only certain men can be attractive to women on dating apps (good looking, tall, muscular or rich). Women on the other hand get hundreds of options just by merely existing on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:02 PM
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A "great personality" doesn't mean anything and is incredibly vague. If we're going by anecdotal examples I know funny, kind and outgoing guys who get NOTHING as they're unattractive (they're below average height, balding, below average facially and white, all of which are detrimental in dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:00 PM
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That doesn't work anymore, particularly when all women have hundreds of options via online dating, social media and irl. Your advice is horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:57 PM
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Yes and men filter it down to the point where even unattractive women get more attention than the attractive men. Men shoot high but end up low, whilst women shoot upwards and date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:56 PM
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I don't know then, what I will say is do what makes you happy, within reason ofc. I personally have slept with Muslim women within a few dates and there have been no issues whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:17 PM
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You won't get pregnant if you're not stupid. Which religion is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:57 PM
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It depends on the age. A good question would be why she's making you wait in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:52 PM
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If a woman makes the first move on me I generally think it's part of a plot or a joke. But that's just my $0.02.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:47 PM
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A woman who makes you wait for sex (past the third/fourth date) doesn't find you sexually desirable. The key is to find the right balance between a player/provider vibe. Something like 80% player 20% provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:35 PM
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And ugly/average women still get tons of likes/matches whilst ugly/average men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:05 AM
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Not true at all. Ugly/average women still get loads of attention online, way more than men of equal attractiveness. Any Tinder experiment proves this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:04 AM
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No, I never chase women. As soon as she takes a while to respond to my messages/doesn't respond I delete her off my phone/all social media and never message them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:07 AM
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But only certain men ate able to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:37 AM
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So men who are universally unattractive to women (short, ugly, white, balding, etc) what would you advise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:29 AM
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Yeah, I think you're lying. Women don't care about personality if you're ugly, short or white. Your extremely rare anecdotal exceptions (if they're evsn true) don't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:08 AM
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Yeah, I've even been rejected by girls way below my looks level on Tinder. Many of them become a bit deluded due to all of the attention. Irl I ignore women in social settings, other than it being for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:22 PM
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For me I haven't spoken to a woman irl in seven years (other than online dating) and still have a high body count. It's much harder irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:13 PM
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You're either extremely good looking, an extreme outlier or larping. Women only want good looking men, tall men or rich men. I know many men who haven't had sex in years as an anecdotal example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:10 PM
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Well they can, Tinder/OLD experiments prove this. Even ugly women get hundreds of matches/likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:25 PM
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They must be extreme outliers or just getting hookers. You can only get laid if you're good looking, tall or rich. A "great personality" is meaningless. When I say get laid I mean getting one night stands/fast sex. I'm not bothered about the men you know getting sex in relationships (which is even if they exist). I can also say that I know guys with "great personalities", hobbies and passions and yet never get laid. The reason being that they're unattractive physically to women (short, not very …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:14 PM
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I find it incredibly hard to believe that 30% of men have had 15+ partners. In order to have done so you need to be extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:53 PM
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They would still need to be attractive to be able to sleep with someone. Also, are you saying that it's in fact easy for men to get laid and that the Blackpill/Redpill is wrong? It's all about "personality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:25 PM
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No, I'm sorry I'm not buying that at all. Particularly given the 80/20 rule. Sure, there are definitely more men who have slept with 15+ people than women, but the average for men is around five (if they're lucky). You'd have to be extremely attractive to sleep with 15+ people as a man, unless we're counting prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:16 PM
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If white women don't hate white men why then have I seen a lot of white women bring up white male suicide when it has absolutely nothing to do with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:03 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about, I'm just pointing out that women can get laid whenever they like. The opposite isn't true. Men have to be desirable to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:53 PM
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Okay, so reality is now sexist? Okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:41 PM
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Sex is earned for men. In order for a man to have sex he needs to be good looking, tall, muscular or rich/successful. Men tend to lie about these things and exaggerate and women tend to downplay. Women can get laid whenever they like due to having hundreds of suitors. The opposite isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:37 PM
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What would you say the average partner count for men was? Would you say that men have it easy in terms of dating/getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:32 PM
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I don't care if white women prefer all other races of men over white men (which is a fact). I'm just stating that white guys have it the hardest in terms of dating as they're the least attractive and even their own women hate them. I'm not bothered about white women as most modern white women don't make good life partners. I've also dated a lot of non white women so I don't know where your observation that I'm somehow a white nationalist comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:31 PM
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The OKC study is true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:01 PM
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Extreme outlier. No way do one in three men have 15+ sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:57 PM
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Yes, absolutely. Also it doesn't state whether these men were straight, gay, etc. Gay men I'd imagine have generally a much higher count than straight men so that'll distort it a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:53 PM
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This country is like 85% white so obviously most people getting married would be white. However in clubs/dating apps white guys aren't desired at all. Same as in the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:51 PM
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It is, it's just that white men aren't desired at all here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:47 PM
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Traditional marriage is good, not modern ones. The divorce rate can attest to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:47 PM
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Traditional marriage is good, not modern ones. The divorce rate can attest to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:46 PM
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I live in London.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:45 PM
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You talk about marriage like it's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:39 PM
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Not just families, but society as a whole. I'm not really bothered about marriage, so this doesn't concern mem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:39 PM
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It's ironic because modern white women usually make bad wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:36 PM
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Who cares about marriage? They often only marry them to keep up appearances, they're worried about the stigma of marrying non white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:35 PM
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Who cares about marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:33 PM
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Okay, well believe what you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:33 PM
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Only because there isn't enough non white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:32 PM
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Extreme social anxiety and aspergers. I only rely on online dating therefore. It works for me as I'm good looking but I'm grateful it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:21 PM
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Not possible for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:19 PM
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Either way there is no way that a third of men have a laycount of over 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:11 PM
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Why does this bother you? As a white guy I can admit that we're not desired. However I just do what I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:09 PM
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Except for white women who prefer non white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:05 PM
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Not ALL do, but the vast majority do because they're part of an undesirable and unattractive group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:05 PM
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I'm definitely top 15% in terms of looks (which is what online dating is all about). I only use Tinder, Bumble and Happn. You might just be strange outlier (average looking and can pull on OLD), but the average man can't pull on these apps. Where else are you going to meet women other than online dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:04 PM
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They settle for them because of convenience but still desire other races of men. They also don't marry other races of men because of stigma created by white men as they know they can't compete on a level playing field. Also given that there are far more white men they're more likely to know white guys and so end up marrying them for convenience. There's a saying "white for the need, non white for the seed for a reason". Non white men are just far more attractive and desirable. It's futile to den…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:01 PM
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No, they don't. Asians earn way more than white guys. White guys are also the least physically attractive. The only thing that white guys had going for them was being high earners and now even that is changing. No wonder why they're offing themselves so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:55 PM
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Why are you finding it so hard to admit that white men are the least desirable race? Are you white yourself? Why would it bother you? Most white men struggle with dating for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:52 PM
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White women still prefer other races or men as white men are the least desirable race. I told you that many women settle for men in marriage, which explains why many white women marry white men. Not because they're attracted to them (nobody really finds white guys attractive). They marry them mostly for convenience and cultural similarities/settling. Who cares about marriage if your own race of women find you undesirable and resentfully marry you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:49 PM
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I'd say top 5-10% probably, particularly given that I only do OLD where you have to be in the top 15-20% as a man. Having over 30 isn't "normal" or average tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:43 PM
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I think plenty of men exaggerate. I've got a laycount of over 30, but that is all from OLD. I never talk to women irl and I ignore them. I'm not sure what category that puts me in. I'm only 28 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:39 PM
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You just proved my point...they enjoy sex with more desirable and attractive men (non white men) and settle for low value unattractive men (white men).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:35 PM
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The men that they want to marry (the top 15%) aren't always available, so they try to settle with a lower male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:33 PM
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They grow to hate them, particularly after they had more manly/attractive partners (non white men) in the past. If you're dating as a white guy you're going to have accept that you're at an extreme disadvantage compared to other races of men. There's a reason that the majority of incels and suicides are white guys as deep down they know they can't compete. White women prefer men of other races for sex as they're more desirable, but they marry white guys for money or convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:29 PM
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Why would they want to get married? Women still have hundreds of suitors to choose from in terms of marriage, it's just that often they don't get the guys they want to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:23 PM
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That's the thing though...the vast majority of men don't get one a year. Look at dating app statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:21 PM
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White women still hate them, marriage doesn't mean much. Plenty of people hate their spouses. White men are still at the bottom of the dating totem poll. White women would rather be with an ugly man of colour than a good looking white guy. That's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:19 PM
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Yeah and women barely put any effort into their profiles either and yet still get countless options. Women still have hundreds of options irl too (hence why they don't need apps). The problem is whether the suitors are actually any good, so it's a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:17 PM
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Do you also think that men tend to have a lot of suitors/options?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:15 PM
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White women hate white men the most and prefer men of other races, this is one of the reasons why the white male suicide rate is so high. White women will always pick a non white guy over a white guy as white guys have the lowest SMV/desirability of all men. Look at the amount of white women complaining about white men and how much they love BBC/are BBC only. It you're a white guy you have almost no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:13 PM
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Again, another extreme anecdotal outlier. That doesn't discredit the fact that the vast majority of modern men find it extremely difficult to get laid. Look at dating app statistics and compare men and women's results. Do YOU think that men have it easy getting laid/ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:10 PM
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Why? Getting laid is nearly impossible for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:04 PM
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If we want to use outliers I can also say that I know a lot of men who haven't gotten laid in years. Albeit most of these guys are white guys (who are the least popular male group and are hated by white women).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:00 PM
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They must be very good looking or tall, otherwise they're huge outliers. Why are women ITT bothered by men's partner count all of a sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:58 PM
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I find that really hard to believe, particularly with dating apps. Maybe the over 35s find it easier to get laid as they have more wealth and assets, but not the average under 35 year old man. Many are struggling to get anything. As dating apps become more and more common this will only get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:50 PM
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Listing anecdotal outliers doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:45 PM
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What isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:34 PM
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I can do it fine and I still do it, but the vast majority of men can't which is a fact. So many men are struggling to get anything, just look at how much inceldom is rising. As a man you have to be good looking, tall, muscular and/or rich to get a one night stand/quick sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:33 PM
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Well any woman could just go to a bar or open Tinder and get laid with no effort. That's pretty easy. For a man he has to be good looking, tall, muscular and rich to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:18 PM
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Most men want to have careless sex and one night stands, but the vast majority CAN'T get these things. Only certain men are able to get these things. Women on the other hand have multiple suitors for dating and ONS. However the catch is whether these guys are actually good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:56 AM
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Do you think that the average man has an easy time getting laid and has a lot of options? Can the average man get laid? The average man is pretty much incel don't forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:31 AM
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Interesting story. What prompted you to make it out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:28 AM
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I agree, which is where I think that subs like this are useful for men. You can see where other men are going wrong and up your game. It really isn't that difficult to get into the top 20% of men, you just need to be prepared to up your game. For example after a few failed dates and relationships I looksmaxxed, moneymaxxed and sorted my psychological problems out, all in which make me a much better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:26 AM
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Also, why do you care about men and their partners? Just because SOME are sleeping with a lot doesn't mean that many aren't struggling to get ANYTHING.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:09 AM
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Does this survey include gay men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:07 AM
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Well men had it easy in dating and getting laid so it's pretty relevant. How do you think you'd do as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:06 AM
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As a man you can just create a dating app profile and you'll be inundated with suitors, even if you're ugly. How are men messing this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:03 AM
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I'm almost embarrassed to be a man now tbh. We have it so easy in dating and yet still have incels/are failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:00 AM
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I find it really hard to believe that a third of men have a laycount of 15+.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:57 AM
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I believe that both parties are lying. Men would exaggerate their count whilst women will downplay it. I don't care about how many people women have slept with, but let's be real here. But I thought that men have it easy with women, so why would they blame them if they're successful? What advice would you give men who can't get laid then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:55 AM
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Believe what you like, but reality says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:52 AM
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I'm not assuming anything, I'm stating reality. You are the one claiming that men have it easy in dating and getting laid when it's clearly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:51 AM
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Yes, only CERTAIN men (the top 15%) have more sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:47 AM
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You're misrepresenting the data. Men (85-90%) don't have more partners than women, it's just that the remaining number is skewing the data as they are having A LOT of sex. So incels/TRP are wrong and it's actually easy for them to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:46 AM
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In fact the data actually shows that women have more sex than men, it's just that the top 10-15% of men are having more sex than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:44 AM
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So what is your point? That men have it easy in terms of getting laid and dating and women have it difficult? Reality says it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:41 AM
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So do you think that men have it easy in dating? Explain why so many modern men are struggling/inceldom is rising then. Even ugly/average looking women can get hundreds of suitors by simply creating an online dating account. The reverse doesn't happen. What am I "assuming" exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:38 AM
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That's out of choice, though. Who do you think has it easier in the dating scene? You talk as if men have it easy in dating, whilst in reality it's ridiculously difficult for 90% of men. As I said only CERTAIN men are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:34 AM
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Only CERTAIN men are able to have sex. The vast majority of men are lucky to get one a year. You talk as if it's easy for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:13 AM
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The men were probably exaggerating (or many were gay) and the women were probably downplaying their numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:10 AM
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I agree with you, although ultimately it can set the bar way lower. It isn't very difficult to outshine the average man in most areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:08 AM
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No, as I said I wouldn't be a stay at home husband. I would expect my wife to be the primary caregiver in any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:37 PM
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So I'd want to make my own money rather than relying on my wife/girlfriend. I'd still expect her to do 80-90% of the childcare. That would be prearranged before we had kids though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:55 PM
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Because I can provide for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:52 PM
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Because I can provide for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:47 PM
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Because I'd want to be making my own money/working on my purpose in life and not relying on my significant other to provide for me. I won't be in that situation luckily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:47 PM
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So I'll just make more money then or I'll find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:27 PM
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Nope, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:26 PM
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So then just make your own money or don't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:47 PM
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Many women like the idea and find it very rewarding. The vast majority of men would find it degrading and humiliating I would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:24 PM
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Why would men want to be a stay at home dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:22 PM
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Why would men want to be a stay at home dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:21 PM
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I find it a really weird dynamic and I'd be pretty embarrassed to be a house husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:13 PM
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Yeah, I get that too. However it is getting much harder in the dating scene due to women's extremely high standards and men's thirst.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:18 PM
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Yes and I believe you. I was just pointing out that my scenario happens a lot now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:53 PM
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That can happen, but her sense of her own attractiveness may also have been distorted by the sheer amount of attention she would be getting on online dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:59 AM
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I understand that, but it can also be due to them becoming a bit delusional with regards to their attractiveness after receiving so many likes/matches/messages on apps like Tinder and Bumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:52 AM
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I've seen good looking men (7.5 up) rejected by women who are around a 3/4 as she thinks she can do better. It can go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:29 AM
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It's not a personal taste if it's objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:00 PM
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Objectively I am more attractive. However you seemed to miss the part where I also said that I've pulled and dated more attractive women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:15 PM
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Lol silly me...typical Sunday. But I have seen some delusional comments on Reddit so it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:30 AM
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Who do you think has it easier in terms of getting laid: your average man or your average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:15 AM
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I am talking facts. This can be DISPROVED by any woman just setting up an online dating profile and being able to be inundated with messages. You're living in a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:14 AM
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But any woman could get laid, particularly with online dating. The same isn't true for men. That isn't an "outlier". You're simply delusional if you deny that. I've also seen below average looking women rejecting good looking men because they have "better options" due to social media and online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:09 AM
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I don't know, I'm pretty good looking and yet I've been rejected by women a lot less attractive than me. However I have also pulled and dated women even better looking than me. Leagues can be all over the place really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:01 AM
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Nope, any woman could just open an online dating account and get hundreds of likes/matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:18 PM
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I've been rejected by women who are a lot worse looking than I am, whilst I have also scored a few points higher. These things can be difficult to navigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:10 PM
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I would never do it myself. I would find it rather humiliating and degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:08 PM
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But that's not true though, any woman could still just open an online dating profile and they will get hundreds of matches/likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:03 PM
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Yeah, no... All women can still get casual sex at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:01 PM
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Probably due to many having completely unrealistic standards and a much lower sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:39 PM
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