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Yeah, I was definitely still maturing a lot when I was in college and was recovering from a traumatic childhood, it's no excuse but the men's right bullshit definitely won me over for a minute. Especially growing up in a culture that tells you to hate feminism constantly. Not like I don't think men deserve to be safe and happy, but the mens right movement was mostly reactionary and anti-feminist when i was on it, and lots of very toxic anti-women ideology was pushed. Women have so much more to b…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 10:38 AM
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Fully agree, I regret every comment I made in this sub 10 years ago.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:48 AM
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All angry people? Many protesters get awfully angry while their dictators are happily living in luxury. Sometimes happy people should be more introspective and consider how their actions could possibly be awful. There are plenty of muslim extremists who know without a doubt that they are right, and they are content in their beliefs. People like that should let others affect them. Obviously this advice is true in some cases. But it's a very limited scope.
/r/seduction21/07/16 12:22 AM
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This is a good time for us to end the conversation. Hope all goes well for yah
/r/MensRights31/03/16 11:31 AM
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I could say the opposite, that you should really embrace opening your mind to other people's advice. You're saying that you don't want other people questioning your belief. You're literally justifying having a closed mind.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 09:27 PM
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I really don't need that life tip. But thanks for suggesting it man. We're both literally on a subreddit right now that is dedicated to supporting a world view in hopes of getting other people to believe in good treatment of men, and not to believe sexist things about men. That being said, I think this conversation might be a bit more cumbersome on your end than on mine. I hope you're feeling good man, I don't want our disagreement to make you think that I don't like you, it's just the nature of…
/r/MensRights30/03/16 07:47 PM
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I posted two sources, and I could post more, but they would be to books that you'd have to pay for and then read. What makes more sense to do on the internet? Link someone to a book that they will not bother to read, or post them to wikipedia that then sources it's statements with sources. I might not be up to standards for a college essay, but it's a reddit comment dude, it's fine to be casual about it. Seriously though, if I posted a wikipedia article on why the story of Noah's arc or the gard…
/r/MensRights30/03/16 04:45 PM
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Sorry, I realize that I worded that wrong, what I meant to say is that there are religious jews that accept it never happened. I didn't mean to imply that every religious jew believes in it. This link I didn't read through all the way, but it does an adequate job to my reading of explaining that there are jews who believe the historical consensus. Also, you shouldn't believe that the jews were ever slaves in Egypt. There's absolutely no proof to the claim. Anyway, hope you're having a good day b…
/r/MensRights30/03/16 02:21 PM
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I like how you're getting downvotes for this when even religious Jews accept this never happened. The Exodus was made up, also since we're talking about egypt the pyramids were made by paid workers, not slaves primarily.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 01:29 PM
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Yeah, I definitely agree this is sexist. But if this was worded differently then I would really appreciate this sign. Treating men like they're the only aggressors is fucked up, but if you witness harassment against a man or a woman, you should do something about it. That definitely is a real problem in colleges, it's a shame they worded it in such a sexist way.
/r/MensRights13/02/16 12:37 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence
/r/seduction12/01/16 05:03 AM
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They're too busy fighting nerds to touch the military.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 09:38 PM
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As a dude with a big head I feel like it is less attractive for a dude.
/r/MensRights10/01/15 04:55 AM
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I was just joking, I didn't assume you meant that.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 02:45 AM
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When white men don't get attacked by cops it's privilege, when white women don't get attacked by cops it's because they're oppressed. Wait....
/r/MensRights26/12/14 01:23 AM
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This is what I'd like to know, without context the numbers mean very little.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 03:08 PM
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Lol, but you're a man and she's a woman, she can't be privileged, it's impossibru
/r/MensRights10/12/13 03:13 AM
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She can't be violent towards you. Violence = Pain inflicting physical force + privilege. That's just the definition, shitlord.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 02:51 AM
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Well it's true that the vast majority of rapes occur when one or both parties had drank alcohol, that much really isn't contested. The way they phrased it makes me think they were trying to avoid "victim blaming". They can't tell victims of rape that they shouldn't be getting blackout drunk, because that would be saying that they put themselves at a higher risk of getting raped, which implies (somehow) that they were to blame for the rape. Drinking doesn't make rapists think that a drunk target …
/r/MensRights10/12/13 02:50 AM
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God I bet you even compliment them too because you're a "nice guy", go hold your own door open, shitlord
/r/MensRights10/12/13 02:45 AM
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I mean I totally agree with you, I've been attracted to mean girls too often. Glad to see you've changed you're taste.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 10:43 PM
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After all, who could love someone just for their looks if they are a bad person? I don't want to be delusional, plenty of people can love someone even if they're horrible. But you shouldn't want to be either of those people. I just think it's important to keep in mind that attraction can make finding people easier, but true happiness should come from being the person you want to be.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 08:06 PM
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I'm 23, and I gotta say that around 16 i felt similarly. There's not many people out there right now telling young guys that they should feel attractive in their own skin and it's such a shame because it happens all the time for girls. There are just as many ads that have guys with six pack abs as there are ads with attractive girls. Anyway, I just wanted to say I know where you're coming from and I hope you don't let it get to you.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 12:07 PM
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You should lose weight, yes, it's something I'm currently in the process of. But if I could offer advice it would be to not compare yourself to others based on attractiveness. I know it's an annoying trope but there is so much more to a person and judging your self worth on physical attractiveness isn't helpful. Anyone can lose weight, anyone in the world can do it, but there are likely things you do that not anyone can do.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 11:59 AM
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I don't think you understand my point. If we're talking about freedom of speech from a philisophical viewpoint then reddit doesn't "determines your level of 'freedom' of speech". It's simply ignoring it in certain circumstances.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 01:06 AM
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Freedom of expression is a philosophical term and a legal term. He's referring to the personal value of freedom of expression, not the legal terminology, that's why he said he wasn't arguing the legality of it. Hope that explains things better for you.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 12:15 AM
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A big thing about rapes is that many of them occur while one or both of them are drunk. And yet bars and clubs and parties are where most people try to meet members of the opposite sex. I think that a more healthy view of sex would be one where you try to meet people sober. But no feminist will ever agree with that and they'd call it victim blaming.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 05:17 PM
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That's precisely why you should get upvoted. We all need to take a deep look at ourselves and realize that there's good parts to us and bad parts. The goal is to be a better person as often as you can.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 05:15 PM
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Thanks for caring about equality.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:10 AM
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On a serious note though, the Halo effect has a huge effect on how men are treated.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:22 AM
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This makes me want to read his stuff, but I really can't suffer through any of it.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 11:12 PM
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Way too accurate.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 10:59 PM
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Something that always bothers me is how people make judgements about people based on what they think the person believes when really they have no idea. People have told me that I've looked really happy when I've been at my most depressed, people have no clue.
/r/seduction08/08/13 11:27 AM
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Then I don't think we're in disagreement. Neither of us are criticizing sexual images of people in comics. Cool.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 04:44 PM
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Well here's my question, do you think that women look sexual in comics but men don't?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 03:40 PM
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So we shouldn't compare females in comics to women erotic things either. These things can't be compared, right?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 02:03 PM
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Well you said that romance novels are meant to be erotic, so you can't compare them to comics since there is no comparison to be made. So therefore if men in comics are not treated erotically because it's not an erotic novel, then why can't I make the same claim about women in comic books? If you're willing to make that claim without any actual basis, then I can assert the same claim about women because comics aren't erotic novels about women. It sounds like you're trying to ignore that comic bo…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:26 PM
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A romance novel is meant to be erotic and sexual; unless the comic book is an erotic comic, there's no comparison. So then women shouldn't complain about how women are portrayed in comics?
/r/MensRights04/08/13 11:47 AM
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LOL. Gonna have to use that one.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 09:06 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/qPnk0C7.jpg Comics like this are trying to say that it's not a real problem for men, even though every romantic novel for women is covered with attractive men. The sad truth is that not all feminists are supportive of men.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 09:01 PM
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There should be an equivilent of neckbeards for women. I suggest "she-beards", "crotch-forests", "armpit-beards", and "no, that isn't peach fuzz, that's a full on beard".
/r/MensRights03/08/13 08:56 PM
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Well of course its victim blaming since women are always oppressed by patriarchy and thus are perpetually victims. If anything these cops raped this poor women with their patriarchy.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 03:06 PM
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Defecated on implies pooping on someone + power. As an oppressed class she can't defecate on cops.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 02:39 PM
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Really nice to hear it from the source. It's good to know that there are women out there who call it as it is and don't mind getting offended occasionally. I try my best to treat women the same way I treat men, it just so happens that I'm offensive infront of men, so I'm also offensive infront of women. If the women I know feel like they're treated in a sexist fashion because I'm offensive, then the men I know should be 10 times more offended.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 08:27 PM
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I was going to say the same thing. Betting that he wasn't drugged. Its been shown that in at least one case people will say they're drugged when they aren't.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 11:59 PM
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It's funny how being clean, liking cuddling, and talking to animals like they're babies is considered feminine. I'm not saying I disagree with you, I think you're entirely right, it's just funny how retarded gender roles are.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:43 PM
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http://www.ibdna.com/regions/UK/EN/?page=paternity-testing-ban-upheld-in-france Another source on this in case you doubt wikipedia or it's source. Edit: As I read I learned that OP's title is slightly misleading, personal paternity tests are banned, but court ordered ones are not. However, the article reads that the court ordered ones are "a drop in the water" in comparison to the foreign administered tests.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 02:55 AM
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The problem with marriage is that you're forfeiting a large sum of your money when/if you (50/50 chance) get divorced. A prenuptial agreement will not necessarily save you from that. Either you get married and bet on a 50/50 chance, or you don't get married. If you chose to leave it up to luck, then that is your prerogative. Women are awesome, but the legal system benefits them. There's no reason to play the game when it's that far in the other person's favor.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 06:19 PM
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SRS HEADLINE: MAN NEEDS TO ROLL ON FLOOR TO PUT OUT THE FIRES OF PRIVILEDGE!
/r/MensRights11/02/13 06:11 PM
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Agency is a vestige of sexism that people cling to in arguments about women's right. They try to make it sound like women aren't responsible for their actions, but men are. And they say this in support of women!? If you're a woman, then you are JUST as responsible for your actions as a man is. If you and a guy are both equally drunk and you have sex with him, then neither of you could technically consent, he's not solely to blame. If a guy asks you to do something you don't want to do, then don'…
/r/MensRights11/02/13 05:31 PM
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I love how people think they control their SO. At the end of the day, cheating is a decision that anyone can make. And it's really only the fault of the person making that decision.
/r/seduction10/12/12 01:05 PM
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Yeah, that sounds familiar now, definitely why I added him as a friend.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 10:38 PM
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A slave with a kind master is still a slave. I dunno why but that line resonated really well with me. And I have already added you as a friend sometime in the past. high five
/r/MensRights06/12/12 09:52 PM
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The demon has attained so much power that it can no longer be contained to the coin. It's already too late.
/r/seduction04/12/12 02:40 PM
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Well I'm sure you're right. I haven't watched tv in awhile, so I don't really know how censors are acting now.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 09:37 PM
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It annoys me that this same joke wouldn't be okay if it was a girl, but the joke is funny to me regardless of the sexes of the individuals. Hate political correctness.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 09:27 PM
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I'm very liberal, but I definitely agree that liberals praise free speech one minute, and hate it the next. It's all or nothing people.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 09:18 PM
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I think your hang up is on the dispensability of relationships, not the multiplicity of relationships. You say that men shouldn't sleep with many women, but your reason is that if a girl doesn't have sex, the guy will just move on to the next one. I think the problem there is that the guy is willing to throw away relationships, not that he wants sex with multiple women. If you have sex with multiple women, it doesn't necessarily hurt the individual women. But if you leave one woman for another, …
/r/MensRights13/11/12 04:36 AM
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I don't drink, and never have. One benefit to this is that I'll never have a night where I'm hooking up with a drunk chick/a chick won't hook up with me when I'm drunk. I think it's really dumb that it's considered weird to try to flirt with a girl when she's sober and level headed. But that same girl would find it normal if you tried to sleep with her while she was drunk and high. People should be more open to hooking up when they're sober, it would solve a whole bunch of problems.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 02:06 PM
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Yeah, if a woman can't take financial responsibility of her child, she shouldn't have the child. She should get state money, but not the money of the biological father, since he has no say in what she does with her child.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 01:22 AM
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A woman's body produces a child, the child should be her responsibility.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 11:08 PM
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This is true for the most part, if men weren't allowed to vote, it would benefit women, if men couldn't hold public office, it would benefit women. But there are cases where it really wouldn't affect them, like if a man had the right to practice his religion, or be free of religion, it wouldn't really affect the privilege of women. Or if gay men could get married, it wouldn't really affect women's privilege. So the zero-sum game you're talking about only works in certain context.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:10 PM
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People think that rights are a zero sum game. As in, if men get more rights then they're taking those rights away from women. People don't realize that the fight for men's rights and the fight for women's rights aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:34 PM
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How is it that she hold political power? And I can't believe that an atheist is against gay rights.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:20 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCsMKypvmB0
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:36 PM
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All that would happen is that a 3rd party would replace a party, or a third party and current party would merge. It's not going to break the two party system.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:18 AM
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To be honest they are right that clothing has very little effect on rape. A rapist is looking for vulnerability, and women who are dressed up fancy usually aren't vulnerable. Rapists usually go after drunk women, or are drunk themselves, time and time again it's shown that alcohol and rape go hand in hand. Feminists can't argue that it isn't the case, statistics will prove time and time again that either the rapist, the victim, or both were drunk when the crime happened. So instead feminists usu…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:45 AM
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you say that sarcastically, but SRS is filled with men who believe that.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:40 AM
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http://www.humantrafficking.org/countries/japan I really dislike Japanese culture, way too much sex slavery.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 01:56 PM
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My bad, I'll delete this if you want. Also I tried to check the rules but it didn't work, it says it's on a private subreddit, just wanted to let you know. I'll take your advice though.
/r/seduction25/09/12 09:50 PM
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Looked into the user's submissions, almost all of the submitted links were to r/ufo or r/conspiracy. I don't care what this person thinks.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 01:59 AM
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If this makes you feel any better, and I know this is probably down the road for you. My uncle had a similar thing happen to him. He lost a lot of money so his wife took off with the kids and moved to another state when they were children. They never really knew his side of the story because at that time they were too young to know any better. Now my cousin in 23 and finally talked to his father last year (after I asked him to), and my uncle finally had his chance to explain himself. Now my cous…
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:15 PM
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I'm just saying that people don't like to talk about Caucasians who weren't slave owners and were slaves themselves. They lump all groups of white people together when talking about slavery. That being said, I could give a shit less about this issue. I'm not to blame for the actions of my ancestors, neither is anybody. You can't be to blame or feel ashamed for actions you had no part in.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 09:54 AM
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I live in america, but all my ancestors were from Ireland originally, it's more likely that a member of my family was a slave than it was that they owned a slave. Although people don't like to talk about that.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 09:35 AM
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This is exactly why I tell people that I plan on never getting married. I hate how good, respectable, honest men can be fucked over because women are treated better. It's not acceptable that a woman can abuse you, and then turn around and have the state award her the children. It's not fair, and I'll spend my whole life trying to fix problems like this if I can.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 09:32 AM
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Dude, I don't know what it is, but men's problems never get the spotlight.
/r/seduction19/08/12 07:09 AM
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Justifying an action is not contrary to taking responsibility for it. There are plenty of things which people get mad about that I would never feel ashamed about. "taking responsibility" is not something you do just because you have an unpopular opinion, I'd have to be proven wrong in order to actually feel like I need to take responsibility for something.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:26 PM
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What am I not taking responsibility for?
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:06 PM
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Yeah, they're meant to penetrate the psyche. What's you're point? That's still not homophobia, racism, or sexism. OOOOOH YOU SAID THAT WORD YOU WERE CONDEMNING THE USE OF game Well my whole point is that you used it in an appropriate manner. Meaning that the words themselves aren't bad, but it's the meaning behind them. For instance, if I stuck a knife to your throat and said "I'm going to fucking kill you", you have a right to be scared and defensive. However, if your friend was joking and said…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 02:29 PM
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You just said fag, nigger, and cunt. Does that make you homophobic, racist, and sexist? The obvious answer is no. Saying something isn't wrong, it's saying it and meaning it. Gamers rarely mean anything they say when trash talking, it's all mindgames. Feel free to disagree.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 12:49 PM
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Wonderful reasoning. I've taught many a female friend how to act in this manner. If someone makes fun of you, you need to have the confidence to dish it back. If you do it consistently enough you're no longer the target. I was picked on horribly in elementary school, I know that being picked on sucks, but complaining about it NEVER stops it.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 12:44 PM
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I love your point about how men have problems with low self esteem. I like how women complain about look issues, as if it isn't a problem for men as well. I know it's always fucking bothered me, but I guess that doesn't mean shit compared to women.
/r/seduction18/08/12 12:36 PM
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Yeah, I think it's comical. The entire notion of offensive words bothers me. It's not the words that bothers me, it's the mean or hateful way they say the words.
/r/MensRights31/07/12 02:06 PM
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The only one that bothered me was the name calling one. I dislike that it's bad for women and acceptable for men. But I think name calling should be allowed for both genders.
/r/MensRights31/07/12 11:18 AM
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Next circlejerk will need to take down all it's content......
/r/MensRights06/07/12 08:28 AM
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Well I don't believe that other people's rights inhibit our own, I think we chose to limit our rights as to not interfere with the life of others. But again, my main point is that natural rights are not nearly as easy to argue as rights that governments chose to protect. Edit: To clarify, legal rights are considered rights bestowed upon by the government. These are not natural rights which exist with or without government.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 05:31 AM
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Cmon, that's a bit of a stretch.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 07:38 PM
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It's a lot easier to argue rights from a government standpoint. Seeing as the rights you believe you have are subjective. For instance I believe I have infinite rights in theory, but I definitely don't actually have all those rights.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 07:36 PM
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She's basically saying that guys should be a little persistent. There's nothing wrong with trying to convince a girl to have sex so long as you're not forcing her. I feel like you're taking her advice as being a little too aggressive if you think it's a problem. As a guy I've had sex after having me say no plenty of times, by feminist logic I MUST have been raped plenty of times.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 05:49 PM
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Yes, my point was not to jump on words like how srs does. Someone can be a fucking asshole on reddit, but srs won't say a word unless they include a word like cunt, slut, nigger, etc... It's all context however.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 10:23 AM
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That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it's not the words themselves but the thoughts and feelings behind them. If someone said spergy just to say spergy, like I am here, it's not offensive. The point is that it's not words, it's context that's offensive.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 09:43 AM
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I'm okay with that, I'm speaking specifically about words being poltically corrected. Saying spergy or neckbeard itself isn't the problem, it's that people will say these without remorse while calling slut terrible. The problem is hypocrisy, the other problem is that she was being ignorant, we shouldn't be looking to humiliate her or anything, we should just impassionately explain why she's wrong, and why she's a hypocrite. At least that's what I'd like to see.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 08:52 AM
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I get that, I just want to make sure that we don't become the male equivalent of SRS. I like to think that mensrights knows that political correctness is that bad way of going about making change.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 08:35 AM
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The use of spergy and neckbeard doesn't bother me. I hope r/mensrights doesn't participate in the idiotic game of who's the most politically correct. The key thing to notice about this thread is how she is upset about women being called sluts, but she has no shame in calling men spergy neckbeards. She is like SRS, she is like the politically correct hivemind that we SHOULD dislike. They talk about political correctness, but spew just as much vile hate as the people they're correcting. The soluti…
/r/MensRights01/07/12 05:41 AM
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Damn, good job collecting those sources.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 04:33 AM
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My point is that you're not stereotyping black people, you're simply citing statistics. However you are stereotyping white people by saying that they're privileged. Since privileged is a stereotype and generalization. How do you feel justified using stereotypes when you agree with them, but not when you disagree with them?
/r/MensRights29/06/12 06:25 PM
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It's still obnoxious regardless.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 05:43 PM
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Also, does this logic not extend to blacks in prison as well? Doesn't your logic mean that blacks aren't in prison because they're not privileged, but due to the fact that they commit more crimes? I'm wondering if you'd apply this logic to race instead of gender.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 08:27 AM
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My main point is that you should either generalize or you shouldn't. If you say that a certain race is privileged, then you should then stereotype in other ways as well. To not do so is hypocritical. So if you aren't willing to make negative steretypes, then you shouldn't make stereotypes about privilege, and visa versa. Honestly I don't care much which stance people take, I just really dislike the inconsistency because it's hypocritical. If you are willing to make negative stereotypes alongside…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 08:22 AM
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I'm not saying that individuals can't be more privileged than other individuals, just that you shouldn't stereotype or generalize that privilege to an entire race or ethnicity or gender. Edit: In addition to what i just said. I wouldn't say that certain races are better than others, my whole point is that we shouldn't generalize. If I didn't generalize, then I wouldn't assume anything due to race or gender. You're just reinforcing why generalizations are bad.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 08:03 AM
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Everyone keeps trying to get me to watch it because I'm a nerd. It's not like I don't get the references, it's just that the jokes with references to nerdy things seem to really shallow. As if they asked their nerdy friend about something he was interested in, and then found a way to make a bland joke about it. Then again, maybe I'm biased because I don't watch tv and don't pay for cable.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 07:44 AM
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The big bang theory is a terrible TV show. Ever since I started seeing people watch it I couldn't stand how obnoxious the laugh track was.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 07:36 AM
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Again, that's subjective. Racists and bigots can make the same subjective and bold claims as you and say something equally undermining as an ad-hominem attack. It's funny however that the comment I made about African Americans was easily defended by you, and you gave reasons for why they commit more crimes. But you seem to objectively think that Jews just have it better. It's pretty funny that you make excuses for some generalizations, but not others. I'm not saying you're points are entirely un…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 06:39 AM
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Do you not see my point though? You're saying that the difference is how true they are, but isn't that incredibly subjective? How likely do you think it would be that a man from Palestine would evaluate jewish generalizations fairly? And with fairly good reason, Jews in Israel could be considered extremely privileged since they were handed land that didn't belong to them, backed by military force and american support. Is it thus okay to say they have it better than Palestinians? I agree that the…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 05:59 AM
5

Being a rich slave owner was definitely better than being a slave, by no means of the imagination am I saying that. What I'm saying is, it's either okay to make generalizations or it isn't. If you make nice generalizations based on history, but not bad generalizations based on history, then you're a hypocrite. For instance, if you call white people privileged then would you agree that more black people are criminals? Surely you would have to since they're far more likely to be put in prison than…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 05:17 AM
2

I'm saying I try not to, if you're going to call me a hypocrite for the women prisoner rate line, then know I was using the logic against itself. But yeah, I try not to make generalizations unless it's for humor.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:44 AM
4

Well I wouldn't do the research because I don't even believe in the idea of privilege. To believe in privilege is to say that you can stereotype an entire group of people as having things better than another group. I try my best not to make broad generalizations outside of humor because they're usually not accurate and very vague.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:18 AM
18

White women have the lowest prisoner rate. They have TONS of privilege if you use that term.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 03:14 AM
16

Add this to the list of false rape accusations that SRS doesn't believe exist.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 07:16 PM
5

Unfortunately it's hard to find it anywhere in reddit.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 06:35 AM
20

Love it but wish it was more objective.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 06:02 AM
1

This just in, comedian KT Tatara actively advocating hate speech. /s
/r/MensRights26/06/12 12:08 AM
2

Social commitment and social contracts and often used to describe the same idea and principle. The fact of the matter is that you should not be held to contracts or commitments which are based on selfishness and jealousy. There's a time and a place where you should realize that some contracts or commitments are intrusive and that they shouldn't be followed. Regardless of whose trust you're violating, they shouldn't put trust in you in the form of jealousy and selfishness and intrusiveness. The s…
/r/MensRights18/06/12 06:04 PM
1

Well I sign end user licence agreements and break them all the time. Plenty of people I know personally, good people....will do harmless drugs even though their work doesn't permit it. Not all contracts should be followed because they're bad. That's my whole point.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 05:49 PM
1

I'm not saying that it's a great idea to cheat. Just saying that it's contract that I don't respect. If someone cheats then I don't feel bad because it's a bad social contract to place on a person. Social contracts shouldn't be used to support jealousy and selfishness.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 03:51 PM
1

Lying is horrid, but so is pressuring people into only having sex with you because you're selfish. If someone signed a contract saying that they'd play video games with one person, I probably wouldn't respect that contract either as it's harmless to play video games with another person. Like it's harmless to have sex with another person if you use protection. Everyone should have standards for what contracts they respect. Personally I respect the contract of monogamy even less than I respect an …
/r/MensRights18/06/12 03:48 PM
-4

I would jump on the offer, but mostly because I don't think monogamy is a good thing to begin with. I think a person should have the freedom to fuck whoever they want, and trying to pressure someone into only fucking you is jealous and controlling. I realize this view is uncommon, but I don't think that influences the validity of the argument.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 06:02 AM
3

Clearly all these topics are that of a hate group. /s
/r/MensRights10/06/12 03:24 AM
1

Well, I've had women and men tell me that stereotype my whole life. I obviously wouldn't keep the stereotype going now. What gets me though is that I don't want to make sex look like a bad thing, I think sex is a great thing, and I think we should endorse thinking about sex a lot. Except we should endorse it for both genders roles, not just men. Men don't only think with their penis, but I would like it if in the future both men and women are motivated by sexual attraction and sex in general, as…
/r/MensRights09/06/12 06:20 PM
3

They're trying to fill the gender role expected from them. Many women will assume me to say things like that, and even if I've been guilty of saying that jokingly, there's no reason to generalize about an entire gender like that.
/r/MensRights09/06/12 06:00 PM
2

This reminds me of a comment in r/atheism. Theists will ask atheists what is stopping them from going out and raping if there is no god. Is god really the only thing stopping them from going out and raping constantly?
/r/MensRights09/06/12 05:58 PM
2

Violence is definitely an issue for boys but I could see them leaving out perversion for a reason. Either way I think my point stands that it's a little one sided.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 04:01 AM
13

I like this but it's clearly written from the perspective of a woman (the bottom of the image says it's adopted from a woman's poem). If it were a guy he would have mentioned something about being considered violent even when he isn't. How men care about their appearance as much, if not more than women. That men can't show interest in women without looking like a pervert. How men are expected to fight the wars for America at least, as we die the most in war. I love when women support men, but th…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:01 PM
4

Wow...what a martyr.... This thread is highly upvoted and most of the top comments are positive.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:53 PM
9

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rape-dismiss-20120525,0,3372200.story?track=lanowpicks Another story on it. So fucked up.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 02:42 AM
3

She doesn't seem like she's in it for the argument, she seems like she has some inner hatred for men, she needs counselling probably.
/r/MensRights22/05/12 05:22 PM
4

"Oh NOW it's offensive" is the best commentary for what you said. His comments were bigotry turned around to prove that bigotry is only seen one way, and the fact that you're infuriated by this makes me laugh. There's a reason why MRA's are called misogynistic, and it's because we're not allowed to say anything offensive, even when groups like 2xChromosomes can post overtly misandrist images without the whole subreddit being called sexist. Huge double standard.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 12:50 AM
1

I don't disagree that there's correlation, I doubt the causation.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 08:22 PM
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Without a doubt you're right. But I doubt you can say why children are better off with two parents, just that they happen to be so. Or maybe you can show that there's a legitimate reason why they're worse off, maybe you can show me. I'd wonder if it has anything to do with social expectations both of the parent and the child, what lead to them being single parents, etc...
/r/MensRights14/05/12 08:08 AM
2

Don't like this, it makes the assumption that a man and woman are necessary to raise a child. It's not a big deal or anything, it's just wrong. A kid raised by a single parent could be raised just as well, or a kid raised by gay parents. Not trying to be politically correct or anything, just wanted to correct it.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 05:42 AM
0

Haha, I get downvotes almost every time I talk about this, it's not a surprise to me anymore. I don't think it has anything to do with you. Thanks for backing me up though, it's cool to know that not everyone hates me for thinking that way.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:21 AM
4

I got circumcised when I was 18, had phismosis or however it's spelled. Jerking off felt more or less the same before and after. It's not a perfect comparison because of the inability to retract my foreskin, but I figure it's close enough. I still hate how they do it to babies and think it's terrible.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:13 AM
1

Is it not selfish to want someone to do something only with you? It might be biological but it's still selfish.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 09:17 PM
1

It's fine, I just don't like to think that people are to blame for other people's actions. A manipulator doesn't force someone to do something, they coerce them. Well, not under these circumstances.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 09:16 PM
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Not a virgin, I actually am in a friends with benefits relationship. And I don't think I have an emotional disorder just because you disagree with me.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:50 PM
2

Don't hate him (theoretical person I guess), just want to treat him like an adult. It's not like I wouldn't advise people away from doing it, but if they do it then they need to realize it's just as much their fault as the woman's.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 07:35 PM
1

Well we should hold people accountable of their own actions. Regardless of whether or not they're men or women.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 05:31 PM
-2

Oh of course, left that out. I meant to emphasize how jealousy itself can't hurt you. But condoms can do a great job preventing most problems.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 03:44 PM
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The only reason why cheating would cause harm is if someone is a jealous person. If I had a friend who hated it when I hung out with other friends, then it wouldn't be my fault for hanging out with other friends, because they're jealous and it's their fault, not mine.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 03:43 PM
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Cheating causes no bodily harm, it neither takes anything from you or changes you in any way. All it does is break a social contract that's often unspoken. No idea why people think it's such a big deal. People are selfish creatures.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 06:57 AM
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A man doesn't need to call himself a feminist, they can call themselves egalitarian. I'm not a feminist because I'm not actively advocating for the equality of women, in all honesty I don't think American women really need any help because they're legally better off than men. Would I have been a feminist when the movement was starting? Of course.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 06:54 AM
2

I hate this type of attitude, but so what? If a dude falls for this shit then it's his fault. Also, why isn't this style of dating referred to as prostitution?
/r/MensRights29/04/12 06:45 AM
2

So fucked up, this woman should have to take care of her children with her own money.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 01:12 AM
2

Please don't let r/mensrights become a facebook screenshot subreddit.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 07:37 PM
1

Either you know me personally or ask me.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 09:24 AM
1

Yeah, that's exactly what I would expect to happen in that situation. People get mad whenever I mirror women's comments like that. Especially when I bring up something like how men being raped in prison is considered a joke. Then women say that "doesn't count"...
/r/MensRights14/04/12 09:24 AM
1

Well here's the thing, if you say something and make it obvious that you don't mean it, then it's not really the same as saying something and meaning it. If I said all girls are bitches/cunts, I wouldn't mean it, I would just be saying it to say it. Therefore I'm not being bigoted, I'm just being offensive or using shock value comedy.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 09:21 AM
1

Yeah, if someone can say something to me without fear or repercussions, i should be able to say the same thing back.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 09:18 AM
4

When women say things along the lines of "all men are jerks/dicks", it really doesn't bother me. It only bothers me if I can't say "all women are bitches/cunts" right back at them. I care about equality more than I care about being politically correct. My point being that I don't care if someone vents about their current situation by being sexist, so long as they wont complain when someone else does it.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 09:07 PM
1

It's because you can't argue against being called unfunny. It's probably just a power trip for them.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 10:18 PM
1

Yeah, that basically describes what I've seen so far.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 06:04 PM
1

Well, lets hope it's easier to do ten or so years from now.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 07:32 AM
2

I always found this funny, you'd think that feminism would be all about sexual liberation, but a lot (not all) of the feminists I've seen have been anti-porn, critical of group sex, and they often say (at least on reddit) that consent can only happen if a man asks a woman if she's okay with having sex and she says yes. (AKA: no implied consent at all, if she doesn't yell "I WANT TO SEX YOU" then you raped her, no questions asked). Sorry for the rant, but I'm amazed at how true all these things a…
/r/MensRights08/04/12 07:17 AM
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Odd, I'm 21 and this is basically what I want to do when I'm older. I want to be a single father with no question of who's child it is. Only difference is that I'd rather adopt.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 07:06 AM
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Didn't see this as it originally unfolded, but I can't stand this shit. I see blatant troll posts and comments so much in here. Is it so hard to believe that men deserve advocacy just as much as women do?
/r/MensRights08/04/12 06:57 AM
12

She's an idiot backed into a corner, that's the type of argument you should expect.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 06:48 AM
1

LOL, I figured someone would say that. I feel like most people here are religious, they just don't let it affect their decisions too much.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 05:21 PM
1

Well my heart goes out to you. I hear it's not easy there for atheists, that true?
/r/MensRights07/04/12 08:40 AM
16

You must be fake, it's the only option, SRS wouldn't say otherwise.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 03:40 AM
1

Oh wow, thanks for the detailed explanation man. I'm not really desperate right now, but I know you're writing a more general comment here. You're probably accurate that I should put more value in meeting cool people, not even just women, but people in general. Thanks man, helpful advice.
/r/seduction07/04/12 02:49 AM
0

Good point but can you show where you get that information? I couldn't find it in the article.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 02:21 AM
1

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be complaining, I live in Massachusetts, it's a religious state, but I don't think it's nearly as extreme as the conservative states.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 02:13 AM
4

I honestly couldn't take too many of the nice guy points because they didn't hit too close to home, but "seeks approval from others" hits close to home for me. I'm not self conscious at all, but I definitely notice that I seek a lot of approval from others as a confidence booster. I find it nearly impossible to just make myself feel confident. It doesn't seem like a switch I can turn on or off, but I actually need to achieve something to feel confident. If anyone has any advice then I'd love to …
/r/seduction07/04/12 01:22 AM
1

I don't disagree with either of these statements and I live in America. So tempted to move to Europe.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 01:07 AM
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It's okay though because men are privileged, so it's cool if women ruin their lives.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 01:04 AM
2

Thanks, this is exactly what I was asking for. This is pretty fucked.
/r/MensRights29/03/12 04:29 PM
2

Didn't realize this was a thing, sounds like a good way to limit trolls.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 10:46 PM
4

You asked for something reasonable while not complaining and blaming the person. Pretty awesome if you ask me.
/r/MensRights16/03/12 08:45 AM
1

I personally think that's too sensationalist, but it's accurate. There are some feminists who attack men's rights like they're nothing, and only want to escalate the privileges of women. But I'd always try and give people an out, don't treat it like all feminists are radical, they're not.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 05:14 AM
11

Thanks. I feel like people treat it like it's a battle. But it doesn't have to be thought of that way, and I don't think it should be treated that way. Protecting men doesn't mean you always take something away from women, and vice versa. Anyway, thanks for the compliment :).
/r/MensRights10/03/12 12:45 AM
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I don't think it's a zero sum game. Think about Feminism and Men's Rights being different states of the same country. Now if one has a government to advocate for it, then the other one should as well. Imagine if rich states weren't allowed to have governments because they don't have "real" problems, even though they might actually have more problems. This would mean that the poor states would get better access to advocacy, and only their problems would be resolved. Personally I think that everyo…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 10:59 PM
7

Then the girl should be thrown out as well.
/r/MensRights20/02/12 12:00 PM
2

Thats such an idiotic way to make a point, by only categorizing and insulting the people you disagree with.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 04:49 PM
0

I'm thinking you could probably get more, but it's up to you whether or not you find that moral.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 10:38 PM
0

Well are you paying equal shares or are you paying more.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 08:04 PM
3

its a troll
/r/MensRights26/01/12 08:04 PM
3

http://www.trafficticketsecrets.com/speeding-ticket-facts.html http://www.halfsigma.com/2007/02/hot_girls_get_f.html Women get fewer tickets. I should probably remove that from the list as there isn't enough proof to say that it's because they're women, and not just that women are better drivers. Anecdotally I can tell you how my sister got pulled over 5 times and only got 1 ticket, and how I got pulled over only 4 times and got a ticket each time. Or I can tell you about how my mother got out o…
/r/MensRights22/01/12 03:05 AM
1

I'm totally cool with that. I said what I said because awhile ago at least I'd be getting into arguments with SRSers everyday and needed to hear this patriarchy bullshit. Personally I think that equality is never going to be even, because that's such a huge task that it's nearly impossible to accomplish. What I want is for us to strive for equality, which is what I think the US is currently doing. My point about saying this is that I don't mind if men or women have "privileges", I just want us t…
/r/MensRights22/01/12 02:45 AM
5

If patriarchy means that women are privileged, then it's matriarchy. But I doubt SRS members would agree to that.
/r/MensRights21/01/12 06:40 PM
11

They also get out of speeding tickets a lot easier than men. If they're statutory raped then they're more likely to be looked at as a victim. If they rape, it's not always seen as a crime (see the woman who raped a thief for 3 days straight). They get less jail time for similar crimes. The list goes on and on.
/r/MensRights21/01/12 03:59 PM
3

Nope, they're just as bad, if not worse than the guy who cheats on her. /s I feel like this is too uncomfortable for some women to deal with, because they feel cognitive dissonance. Therefore they like this explanation because it puts the blame on the man. This is just speculation, so feel free to totally disregard it as such.
/r/seduction11/01/12 10:58 PM
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I agree that it should be accurate in theory. But if it's just a response to another list, I don't see it as a bad thing if he does the list the way she did her's. It's whether or not he wants to prove a point by being factual, or if he wants to be subjective to show there are also subjective problems he observes. Up to him in the end. I'm always for being more honest and factual though.
/r/MensRights04/01/12 04:50 AM
8

In all fairness, I think the point of this list was to copy the original, most points are valid, but some are probably included even if they're not objective, and are just observations.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 11:00 AM
4

Did he say he ever called girls ugly? That seems to be the role of his wife. Don't forget he called himself a dispassionate observer of these events.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 10:47 AM
1

Yeah, one or the other. It's also too dependent on female birth control. That's why I can't wait for the easily reversible vasectomy.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 05:15 AM
1

Well why should men be forced out of intercourse to avoid fatherhood, but not women? (As abralin suggested). I don't think you get that I'm not advocating this, I'm playing the devils advocate if you will, explaining why this logic is wrong by arguing it.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 04:06 AM
0

I don't believe that, no. I'm taking a premise "it's her body" and keeping it consistent.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 10:41 AM
3

SRS troll, please ignore.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 09:37 AM
0

To the latter point, if you want to bring up human rights, you need to be consistent about it. For instance, if you said it's a human rights issue while at the same time endorsing torture or something, you're views would be contradictory. See what I'm getting at? As for your first point, I don't know what I'm ignoring with respect to biology. Sure it'd be swell if guys could have an equal say so in the matter of ownership, but it just isn't that simple because a woman has more biological repercu…
/r/MensRights01/01/12 09:36 AM
0

You're trying to set apart ownership and biology. Not really sure what you're trying to say. I realize a woman is the only one who can biologically make a child. What does that have to do with my point? And pro-choice/life is relevant if you get into rights. I'm saying it's not a good area to bring the topic.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 08:22 AM
0

I don't have to do for this argument. It's simply logical, ownership of children is implied by our society, but if it's truly under ownership of both, then it doesn't matter who's body it's in. If it's only the ownership of one, then it does matter who's body it's in. We have a society that has parental ownership after birth of both, before birth of one. That's inconsistent logically. Also, as an issue of human rights, presumably you're complacent in allowing a woman to kill her child (as am I),…
/r/MensRights01/01/12 07:16 AM
0

I think you see my point. I do not agree with that, so therefore if a woman can't be told what to do, neither should a man. If a woman doesn't want to be a single mother, she shouldn't have intercourse. I think we see eye to eye now.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 06:49 AM
1

That's good :).
/r/MensRights01/01/12 06:45 AM
1

Keep in mind, if men have no rights to a baby's life while it's in the mother, even though he helped produce it, why is he responsible after she gives birth because he produced it? You can't have this both ways either it should apply to both or apply to neither. Also, if it's a human being with it's own rights, then why is a woman allowed to kill it? Shouldn't the father protect the child from the mother if this is truly the case? Or is it acceptable to kill something which is living inside of y…
/r/MensRights01/01/12 03:55 AM
-2

Your statement isn't logically consistent though. If the man has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body, then a woman has no right to tell a man what to do with his body But if it's her body then it's her child. His body didn't produce it.
/r/MensRights01/01/12 02:17 AM
1

When men can become impregnated, carry a baby to term, and give birth - we may have reproductive equality. Until then, biological differences make true equality absolutely impossible. All I'm asking is you this to stay consistent. I'm fine with men having no reproductive rights under this one circumstance: which is, if the child is her's because it's in her body, then it's her's after birth as well. If a father feels like ditching the kid, it's now his right because it didn't come from his body,…
/r/MensRights01/01/12 12:02 AM
2

While you are right in your observations. Its anecdotal, im not gonna blame it on feminism, but I will say that women are usually the ones who say that male genital mutilation isn't the same thing.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 10:03 PM
1

Cognitive dissonance on the part of the cops
/r/MensRights31/12/11 09:55 PM
6

Never done a drug in my life and I disagree with you.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 09:53 PM
0

.....logic? I'm entirely pro-choice, so don't think I'm demonizing people who get abortions. But it's killing a person. Given, there is a window of time where it's more like killing a sack of red blood cells, but I don't like drawing that line. I'd rather just admit it's killing and do it anyway.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 08:44 PM
0

Read 99whelan99's comment.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 08:30 PM
0

Thank you, that essentially sums up exactly what I meant.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 08:30 PM
0

I'm taking the "it's her body" reasoning to it's logical conclusion. If it's her body, then the child is thus her property and not the man's. So yes it would extend to a father who wants to be a father.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 08:29 PM
2

And abortion is killing a person. I'd call that a negative impact.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 08:27 PM
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Personally I find that "It's her body" is only applied when it helps women. Technically, if it's her body, then the child is her sole responsibility as well. The man didn't birth that child, so he isn't responsible for it. If it's her body, then why is it his responsibility? Why does the man lose all rights at abortion, then gain all the responsibility at birth? I find it to be contradictory/inconsistent logic.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 10:03 AM
2

That's what I loved about it, it shows you truly how abnormal it is to turn men into sexual objects. I want this to happen more.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 03:27 AM
1

Haha, it's cool. I don't really mind things like that unless it's said with an attitude, if it's just a correction then it doesn't really bother me. I do the same with logical fallacies occasionally.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 02:16 AM
1

bad habit
/r/MensRights29/12/11 07:40 PM
10

Being of that certain sexuality, race, gender, and religion means that you're privileged, racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc... And that's not a stereotype, not a generalization, it's just fact. /s
/r/MensRights29/12/11 08:01 AM
2

True, shouldn't of posted it here. It's something I'd like to show people here, but it's not really relevant. Just downvoted it myself.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 07:48 AM
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Male privilege was true at a certain time, sure, now is not that time. Legally and socially men are not given as many privileges as women. Of course one gender will always be more privileged than the other. Personally I only want to make it so that legally we have no privilege given out based on gender, skin color, sexuality, etc...
/r/MensRights28/12/11 08:03 AM
4

I'd probably feel safest on a floor of just the elderly.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 06:32 AM
7

Wonderful. That's a really great resource for this male privilege nonsense.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 01:49 AM
11

"How about the argument that women might feel safer knowing they're on a floor that only has women on it? If people don't like the hotel's rules, don't stay there. They're not the only hotel in Copenhagen and I'm sure they have more than one floor. We have female only gyms, a female only floor in a hotel is hardly a big deal." I can only imagine she'd find it racist if there was a whites only floor. I guess it doesn't matter if it benefits her.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 01:36 AM
1

I'm male; why would I want to harm myself? That reasoning means nothing to me. Plenty of people do things that harm themselves, think of poor republicans. None the less, I was just saying it's respectful. That's not what SRS is out to do; I don't feel like large groups can be generalized like that. Sure the leadership doesn't want to do that, but the members of the group surely do. There are problems with all of reddit, I accept that, that's not a reason to ignore problems, it's only a reason to…
/r/MensRights27/12/11 12:27 AM
1

Well, you're being really cool about men's rights for the most part, and I really do respect that. But just for the sake of argument This statement also applies to Reddit-at-large (and really all of America as well). I'm only trying to hold SRS responsible for it's flaws. And as a group which is about the fucked up things reddit does, it's pretty fucked up to ignore the problems of an entire gender. I realize that the world is ignoring it, but it is awesome to see you notice that it's a problem,…
/r/MensRights26/12/11 05:05 PM
1

Realize when I say they're, I'm not talking about you specifically, but SRS as a whole. I doubt you'd deny that a good amount of your members totally disregard men's issues. Gender roles don't imply legality. But I understand now it's what you meant. Women are treated more favorably than men in law when it comes to issues of equality. If you want to talk about abortion, you're talking about something with huge grey areas. Given, I'm entirely for abortion myself, but it's allowing a woman to kill…
/r/MensRights26/12/11 11:09 AM
2

What we are sorry for is completely and utterly immobilizing any and all of the advocacy and activism being attempted by r/mensrights We hope that this month-or-so will provide r/mensrights much needed assistance and more importantly, that they will be able to accomplish a staggering amount in terms of advocacy and activism. So basically the point of this I'm seeing is that they think they're "holding us back", and so, if we aren't linked to, we should be able to do monumental things to help men…
/r/MensRights26/12/11 10:22 AM
1

I like their beards
/r/MensRights25/12/11 05:43 AM
1

You love me, you really love me ;)
/r/MensRights25/12/11 12:04 AM
1

Well in a way that I think is similar to you, I'm not really concerned with outcome. But instead I'm only interested in opportunity. So it doesn't really bother me how many men get parenthood as long as they're given an equal chance. Given time and struggle it should naturally work itself out with more social organizations and knowledge on the subject. The big jump is having equality in law, or at least, that's all I'm concerned about personally. Personally I don't think that social changes shou…
/r/MensRights25/12/11 12:04 AM
1

Haha, yet you're still talking to me :D
/r/MensRights24/12/11 11:48 PM
1

Haha, well I likely won't go by their site again after this
/r/MensRights24/12/11 11:47 PM
1

Lol, I'm not mad, I'm happy. I love getting the attention of you guys, because you guys need to troll in order to deal with us.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 10:57 PM
1

Wish I knew this before hand.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 10:31 PM
1

A thread I made got pathetically trolled by an SRS troll. Achievement unlocked.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 10:31 PM
1

Very well spoken. I don't want to return to "traditional" gender roles. But I don't want things to stay the way they are right now either. I want freedom of and from gender roles, at least in the legal sense. I don't think that's going to lead to a collapse, it's not like traditional roles didn't lead to a collapse anyway.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 10:28 PM
1

I often feel like that as well, but I suppose a feminist could say the same about men's rights, that it's not about equality. Regardless, that's definitely how feminism represents itself today, much more so then men's rights.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 06:12 AM
6

Seriously, he pretty much hit the nail on the head. Feminism as an idea is great, it's just seeking equality for women. But most "feminists" now do not want that, they often want superiority.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 05:24 AM
2

I'm 21 and I talk to everyone about men's rights. Occasionally a girl with over react and get mad at me, but if she does I just explain in deeper context. So it is very people to have a conversation with like-minded people, but it's few and far between.
/r/MensRights23/12/11 04:29 AM
4

I dislike shit reddit says. It claims to be a circlejerk, but it goes around talking about how morally superior they are. That way if they are ever bigoted or wrong, they're just trolls and circlejerkers, but if they're right, than the circlejerk has shown others the light. On numerous occasions members have told me that they have no interest whatsoever in educating offensive people, and that they just want people to not say offensive things (aka censorship). Their group points out problems in t…
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:42 PM
8

Nice try feministtroll's 99th account
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:35 PM
2

get out! Go back to SRS plox.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 01:32 PM
3

HB 5882 [CAPA] actually makes it a crime for a woman to "change or attempt to change an existing housing or cohabitation arrangement" with a significant other, to "file or attempt to file for a divorce" from her husband, or to "withdraw or attempt to withdraw financial support" from a man who she has been supporting, if it is determined that the woman is doing these things to try to pressure the man. Swapped man and woman and removed mentions of pregnancies to leave the possibilities open for th…
/r/MensRights17/12/11 12:10 PM
1

Gotcha, so you thought he was lying. My bad then.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 04:30 AM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/na7dw/feminazi_attacks_reddit_reddit_contain_so_much/c38170j Read that comment and my response and see if that fits what you meant, more simply, did you mean he made up the story or that she wasn't actually a woman. If it's the former than I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 04:19 AM
3

Read my last comment with wally whiskey.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 02:58 AM
2

If she meant he made up the entire story then I'm wrong, but if she meant it like she wasn't a true woman, than I'm right. Gotcha. I'll gladly accept that, but she Sophanax could have made it a lot easier if she clarified that instead of just hurling insults. Although, I'd like to hear from her mouth that she thought the story was fake.
/r/MensRights15/12/11 02:57 AM
4

Then tell me where I went wrong. She said his wife wasn't an actual woman. But she is an actual woman, and it's the same way someone would say someone isn't actually a scotsmen. Please inform me of where I went wrong.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 04:24 PM
4

You assumed that about him. And I quote, If he had any stipulations on paying for her college education, he should have informed her beforehand. Many men don't anticipate their feelings about supporting their wives education free of charge. Some want them to work, and vice versa. Maybe if she was interested in the human capital, she should have told him, that way he wouldn't have supported her financially. 3. This one baffles me. You state that staying home with your child is selfish, as if that…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 04:19 PM
2

Whenever I see irrelevant I read it as Irrelephant. That is all
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:57 PM
5

Your example goes both ways, if he was paying her way through college and she knew she wasn't going to do ANYTHING with it, maybe she should have told him in advance. It's like if I gave you a Mercedes Benz free of charge and you crashed it into a tree for fun. If you're in a relationship and would do something that selfish, you don't deserve to be in a relationship.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:47 PM
3

It's honestly a shame. My dad is a lawyer and handles a lot of divorces. I have a pretty good idea of what the legal landscape is right now, it's pathetic how biased it is.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:41 PM
3

You must not have understood what I posted. Or, you cannot read. Which is it?
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:38 PM
4

From wikipedia (for quick referencing) Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis. Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis! Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis. His wife was an "actual woman".
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:23 PM
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Haha, that's the best way to look at it. Also, I'm sorry to hear about what happened, personally I think if a woman threatens to "take the children away". Courts should automatically be in favor of the guy. That's so shitty that they favor women so much that they can threaten men without too much of a fear of losing custody.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:20 PM
1

Yeah, that's my problem with them. Plenty of things they link to are jokes taken out of context or things that are genuine discussions.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:08 PM
4

You're awesome. Sorry these shitredditsays shitheads are downvoting you.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:07 PM
5

I'm surprised he married someone who he put through college only to not get a job. Clearly he should raise his standards.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:05 PM
1

How do you figure? He put her through college, so hypothetically he could do the same for the kid. He was also smart enough to ask her to get a job as well. I know quite a few dads who are called deadbeats if they don't work, why isn't it the same for a woman?
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:05 PM
3

God forbid he asked his wife to work after he pays for her college education.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:03 PM
3

No true scottsman fallacy. Also, get out!
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:01 PM
1

Such a shame.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 09:57 PM
1

Why specify women, I'm sure it's gender neutral.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 08:25 PM
5

Oh no, now shit reddit says won't be able to take our sarcasm out of context.
/r/MensRights11/12/11 08:22 PM
7

See? No double standard at all.....wait, it totally is a double standard.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 07:30 AM
15

So if a mcdonalds store employee grabbed a woman workers ass. You would not accept a comparison to the same event in a target or walmart?
/r/MensRights28/11/11 07:59 PM
11

Please don't do this. I really hate SRS, but they shouldn't be outright banned, that's something they did to me, and it's often just a way of shutting up the opponents viewpoint. It's a quick solution for a larger problem.
/r/MensRights28/11/11 04:49 PM
2

Or ignore them.
/r/MensRights28/11/11 01:27 PM
1

Yep, it's infuriating sometimes
/r/MensRights24/11/11 07:59 AM
12

r/shitredditsays If you're uninitiated, take a look at the subreddit. It's intended purpose is to out people on reddit who say offensive things. But they inherently define offensive as being directed towards a minority. To them, white men or men in general can't be offended due to their privilege. tll;dr: that subreddit is cray cray
/r/MensRights22/11/11 08:49 PM
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2XC thinks it's terrible. SRS thinks men are privileged, and thus it's okay to treat us terribly. I like 2XC a lot better than SRS.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 08:45 PM
2

What.The.Fuck.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 06:16 AM
2

Of course. I was just fact checking since I happened to have significant experiences.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 05:24 AM
1

Hey bill, thinking I might want to chop a bit of your dick off, is that alright? HELL FUCKING NO
/r/MensRights21/11/11 12:06 AM
1

Wait wait wait. It's not that there are none. Personally I had a condition like phimosis where my foreskin was too tight. In many cases it is basically necessary to get a circumcision. I am not by any means supporting circumcision, even if I had perfectly legitimate reasons for it. So yeah, there are benefits, but the chances of having a case like mine are rare. Most people don't need circumcisions.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 12:05 AM
4

I don't really care about objectifying people. We are sexual objects, as well as intellectual objects. I can't see how denying that helps us progress.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 09:19 PM
3

I'd love to see a company try it, if they get away with it, awesome, if they don't, double standard.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 04:26 PM
7

It's so shameful that feminists cast out women like her, she's very brave.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 08:05 AM
1

Well, try it, if there is an uproar, then call them out for sexism.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 11:11 PM
5

Not a christian so it doesn't really bother me. This is obviously a case of women being seen as the victims in all scenarios.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 04:43 PM
4

Not a MR issue. It does show a social double standard though.
/r/MensRights07/11/11 09:12 PM
3

I didn't mean the bots, I meant because the headlines in SRS are links to the original comment.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 09:08 PM
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I agree 100%. I've been linked there twice, and whenever I try to defend my argument, they say that the subreddit isn't about discussing, it's just about pointing out "offensive" comments (Even if they take it entirely out of context). They're definitely trolls.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 05:06 PM
1

I agree, it's useful in a few ways. I wouldn't go around calling myself cisgendered, but it's useful when used in context. They just use it to be excessively politically correct.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 05:01 PM
1

Were you linked here from there?
/r/MensRights06/11/11 03:06 PM
3

Well I don't think men should be responsible for a pregnancy if she decieved him into it. I don't think anyone should disagree with that :/.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:39 AM
4

Well in this case the woman admitted to it. But it's not the only legal case where it's one person's word against the other's.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:29 AM
3

Woooow.... They're probably stalking my account at this point.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:10 AM
11

Did you read the article?
/r/MensRights05/11/11 06:03 PM
2

Yep. There's a lot of convincing trans/traps
/r/MensRights05/11/11 05:40 PM
2

I know, it's just the only example I could think of.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:44 PM
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Yep, I agree. I think it's good that your comment is the most upvoted. It shows that you're not the only one who catches on to this. If any feminist trolls want to point out any trans hate from mensrights just link to this.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:24 PM
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http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4507/1196890135431tb0.jpg It's not always that simple.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:18 PM
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True, I guess it's also technically correct that the same thing could happen with a woman as well. I think it's definitely not a men's rights issue. Not to be a broken record tho, but if it bothers you, you're better off just downvoting it.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:17 PM
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Actually watched the first 32 minutes of this. It's not the most sexist conversation I've heard, to be honest. But it does show some of the common perceptions about men that are inherently ignorant. For instance, it treats the lack of education of men to be the fault of men. Would feminists apply this same way of thinking to women in the past? Aren't there reasons why men are avoiding college? Also the panel talks about why there are "no good men", and how women have unreasonably high standards.…
/r/MensRights05/11/11 04:05 PM
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Yep, not the first time a woman has supported impregnating themselves without consent of their partners. Men shouldn't be held liable legally in cases like this.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 03:24 PM
1

Well then, there's not too much disagreement between us I think. At least on those topics mentioned.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 12:07 AM
1

I mean, that's fine that they wanted to take it down over their sensitivity. I think that's a dumb reason to take down a display, but then again, there's nothing which makes me have to agree with them. I don't think I said they were too sensitive by the way.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 10:51 PM
1

I was just curious if you were supporting them or not. You say they're overly sensitive and I agree with you. You want protesters to remind "us" of this fact. "Us" being an ambiguous term likely referring to the consumers in the area. So to go over your views, you think the store owner did nothing wrong, the protesters were overly sensitive, but the gore was still a good reason to protest in light of recent events in the area. Personally, I feel like murders and a Halloween set up are entirely u…
/r/MensRights01/11/11 10:34 PM
1

Well your reason for them protesting was the gore, yet their reason as you're admitting is violence and not gore. So you would be ok with a 'hypothetical' protest, where they're protesting the gore. But the actual protest, which was violence against women, you've yet to endorse. I'm not using "admit" in an offensive tone, just trying to get your account straight. I'm just trying to see a clear picture of what you're saying.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:56 PM
2

I just figured it was because it was referencing a display of a bed with blood all over it, certainly conjures an image of domestic abuse more than just violence. But I'll admit it, I shouldn't assume. But you admit it wasn't just them being put off by gore. Right?
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:05 PM
2

So they were protesting because they were put off by the intense gore. I guess that's their prerogative, but that doesn't appear to be at all why they were protesting. The reason they were protesting appeared to be that they found the display to be harmful to female victims of domestic abuse. I personally don't see any implication to the latter.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 07:48 PM
1

Haha, seriously. It's getting annoying. Anyway, happy cake day.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:38 AM
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The subreddit tells it's members not to downvote comments, but I'm assuming some members don't follow those rules. Nothing wrong with that, they should do whatever they want.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 08:35 AM
2

That's exactly what I said I know, you pointed out a mistake I made, so I fixed the mistake. What's the problem? In this case, I do not believe this man was doing anything wrong, I think there were good reasons for protesting his store, and I think the vandalism was unjustified and undermined what points about awareness the protesters may have had. Well put. Edit: What were the good reasons for protesting his store?
/r/MensRights01/11/11 04:31 AM
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How about this: "Being offensive has the potential to be good or bad, but it is not inherently good or bad itself. It is heavily dependent on context." I already believed this, but I guess I should have been more specific the first go. Out of curiosity, do you believe that this man was doing anything wrong by being offensive? Do you think there were good reasons for protesting his store? Do you think the very small level of vandalism was justified?
/r/MensRights01/11/11 04:17 AM
-1

Exactly what went through my mind.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 03:11 AM
-1

Haha, I think there's no better irony. It's an honor.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 02:58 AM
15

misogyny and misandry are never justified.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 06:09 PM
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Being offensive is good. If you wanted to be offensive during the time of slavery, all you would have to say is "Slavery is wrong" and everyone would be offended. They felt like what they were doing was justified, so calling them wrong would offend them. If you went into a country with sharia law as a woman without a head garment, you'd offend a lot of people. Offending people is great. But year after year people lack the willpower to stand up and protect the idea of being offensive.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 06:08 PM
2

There was an AMA exactly like that, this thread was a response to that one.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 07:14 PM
1

Even if it is a fake story, isn't it more interesting to see the revealing comments? Knowing that redditors are glorifying a pedophile?
/r/MensRights27/10/11 07:12 PM
1

I don't think you catch my drift, I'm saying that there's a potential that god can be disproved. As in with 100% certainty. It may not be the case, but I'm saying it's possible. Whether or not that's true is an entirely different story.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 06:43 AM
1

I'm not against being immature, if someone uses a fallacy against me I'll occasionally shoot it right back at them. I guess idealistically we shouldn't though. It does hurt the movement as a whole.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 04:17 AM
1

Just correct you partially. God hypothetically can be disproved. It would need to be under the circumstance that god's existance is a contradictions. For instance, a square circle cannot exist anywhere, even if it's impossible to observe we know a square circle cannot exist. If god fits into the definition of a contradiction, he can be dispoved. Otherwise, it's as you say. Not trying to bait you into a religious discussion, just wanted you to think about that.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 04:16 AM
2

I don't think anyone mentioned this. But if the beatings by her boyfriend bothered her so much, why didn't leave him? And how do we know he didn't fight back in self defense? He can't defend himself in court if he's dead.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 11:19 PM
1

Herp derp, I'm retarded, I thought you said something else.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 10:33 PM
1

I agree, blaming the victim isn't logical, I don't really blame MRA's if they do it though. No movement is perfect.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 10:14 PM
1

I agree with you, I said blaming the victim is wrong.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 10:13 PM
1

That wasn't really my point. My point is if its so bad why do they do it? I personally don't think we should. But I don't care if others do.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:41 PM
2

Thats what really bothers me about it I think. When a man physically attacks a woman they never accept that the pain was justified. But yet violence can be justified from a woman to a man. They are essentially giving women a monopoly on violence. By no means is that equality or justified.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 08:38 PM
4

Same thing with feeling uncomfortable about your spouse making more money. It's perfectly fine when women complained about it.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 04:34 PM
0

It's excessive for good reasoning. If people want to find information on her and how she accused men of being potential rapists. They'd find a description of how she recanted, thus being informative and helpful to those looking for information. Also, if we allow that for anyone, then women could have half assed appologies on the expectation that they'd be taken down from the site. It's good she did appologize, but it's better for the article to remain up.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 11:00 PM
1

Yeah, it's unfortunate it's such a silenced issue (rape in prison)
/r/MensRights25/10/11 12:36 AM
1

Both are great points.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 10:23 PM
2

I agree with you entirely. When I asked if there was any truth to be had here, I wasn't only asking if either of them were true, the answer could have been anything. I guess that's what I get for being very vague.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 06:58 PM
2

I like this point of view
/r/MensRights24/10/11 05:25 PM
1

Yep, that's horrifying. o.o
/r/MensRights24/10/11 05:05 PM
1

Grinnell college dorms, where those who want to be gender free have their own dorm area, to seperate them from the rest of the students.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 04:50 PM
2

Yeah, thats all I would ask for, taking her off the site seems excessive.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 03:26 PM
3

Maybe they could add it in as a discription or something. Say she offered an appology, just a thought.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 03:16 PM
11

It's just not fair, what girl would threaten rape to make a guy keep his mouth shut?
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:11 AM
3

This couldn't have been said any better. Every misandrist and misogynistic comment usually falls to the bottom of the page
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:08 PM
1

Hahaha, it's alright. I did respond to her original comment though and did say I think sexual crimes are a bit exaggerated. sexual crimes are terrible, but I think people treat it like a witch hunt. I saw a girl post a comment on facebook recently where some guy asked her to go to a concert, and she didn't know the guy well. Almost every comment was about how the guy was going to try to rape her.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:54 PM
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As a male victim, this is the way many men will see you, you're incapable of being molested by a female. If you were a girl he wouldn't be telling you to feel bad for your dead rapist, he'd tell you that fucker got what he deserved. Keep that in mind.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:46 PM
1

I said she doesn't have a gender bias. As she seems to believe in equality. Her views on rape seem a little odd, I'll admit. But that wasn't what I was focusing on in that comment. I was only saying in this comment that believes in equality. It's the same if someone thought that all black people should be forcibly killed, but so should everyone else. It's not racist, but it's still psychopathic.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 09:39 PM
1

So what you're saying is that you'd welcome some guy you may or may not know well going down on you while you're passed out at a party, meanwhile having someone take photos. Hey, glad to see there are people who don't put sex on a pedestal. Views of sex probably need to become even more liberal before they get better. The mens right's movement is just demanding equality though, nothing wrong with that.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:12 PM
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I think she's saying that not all unwanted sexual actions should be punishable, and that if I went to a party, and went down on a girl who passed out, then had a friend take a picture, I shouldn't face criminal charges, regardless of gender. If she's consistent with this, I don't see her as having a gender bias.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:08 PM
5

Don't feel too guilty, I don't think any girl who gets treated the same by a guy would care about the person who molested them. Also it may be worth it to get new friends.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 08:03 PM
15

Well be a generous to the guy, it's tough to report things like this. But he shouldn't feel bad reporting it, and things aren't going to change until people do. If you report the rape it should be better for people after you.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:39 PM
2

Also, the original thread you linked to didn't use it as a fallacy. "Women don't start wars" -Michael Moore, a spineless white knight, on Politically Correct w/ Bill Maher I don't see any argument being made. This is simply an insult. Not an attempt to disprove his remarks.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 10:49 AM
2

You didn't do a very good job avoiding it being used in your argument. While you did separate your argument from the headline, your headline insinuates something about the people in your argument. For instance "Is r/politics a bunch of nazi homo retards?" These people are wrong on a lot of issues and here's why. The first line being the headline, the second being the body. What you're doing is trying to separate a link between these these two when there is a well defined link. When you reference…
/r/MensRights05/10/11 10:46 AM
2

I think you're missing the big point here. You're saying it's not fallacious. In order for it to be, there needs to be something about being childish which is relevant to the topic. Even if they are childish, their point could hypothetically be correct, that's a fallacy. Need I say more?
/r/MensRights05/10/11 10:02 AM
2

It doesn't matter which point a) or b) you're referencing. Being an angry child is both unproved by you, and irrelevant both topics. Angry children could be correct about a or b hypothetically. They are irrelevant attacks meant to make their arguments less valid. Like I said, if you had proof of something that would be relevant to the argument, that wouldn't be ad hominem. For instance, If I was debating someone about the revolving door in politics and I said you can't trust politicians to tell …
/r/MensRights05/10/11 09:43 AM
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Of course, but how is being an angry child relevant to micheal moore being spineless? Your insults were not used to disprove their point. That makes it an ad hominem. Even if it were angry children who made this post in question, them being angry children does not itself disprove their point. Even though like you know, they provided no basis for him being spineless, and they were using ad hominem. If you had any rational basis, like proof that they were in fact children, that may be useful infor…
/r/MensRights05/10/11 09:18 AM
1

You should have just conceded that point. You were hypocritical, concede that fact. Ad hominem is insulting someone instead of attacking their main point. What you have done is insulted them and argued the point, but your insult was used the same way, to try and insult a viewpoint to make it seem less credible. Also, ad hominem has nothing to do with accuracy of the claims. If I called Ron Paul a crazy conspiracy theorist, I'd be accurate, but if I said that to disprove his view of the fed, it w…
/r/MensRights05/10/11 08:45 AM
19

Retaliation may not be legal, but socially it is condemned when a man retaliates and it's reinforced when a woman does it. This leads to guys like this being treated unfairly. Unfortunately, the law isn't blind.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 08:30 AM
4

Misandrists is great, but I think the point of it to begin with was that feminists claim to be pro-equality, and their scorn of men's rights was showing that they weren't pro-equality. Misandrists doesn't have the same impact in my mind because if they hate men, it's obvious they'll have scorn for us, making the statement sound redundant to me. How about earning scorn from female supremacists since 2008?
/r/MensRights29/09/11 06:09 AM
0

100% agreement with you. We shouldn't blame all women for the problems of some women. At the same time however we should hold women accountable for their problems. The same way men were held accountable for their problems a long time ago.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 06:29 PM
3

Yes, it's entirely based off of a stereotype. One that is considered general knowledge due to the amount of articles posted here regularly. For instance, the poster campaign saying that men should basically hold back their urge to rape. We as a community see this on a daily basis on much more broad terms then just my friends. It didn't back up it's argument, but that's because it's redundant if you actually read this subreddit.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 06:04 PM
5

This is a case of your anedotal evidence against our anecdotal evidence. Sadly, those comparisons mean nothing, because you can't try to prove broad statements with personal experiences. But there's hope, if you want to prove that most feminists don't consider men to be potential rapists, you could show statistics, or show a study on it. Something more objective than just how your friends feel. Sorry to be rude, but you have no reason to insult this subreddit due to unsubstantiated beliefs.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 05:42 PM
16

Lol, I love how nerds are seen as sexist compared to the general population. Not only is this notion ridiculous. But look at this this way, nerds are far more likely to be victims of sexism than the women they're supposedly sexist towards. How many times do we hear sexist sentiments toward nerds? That they must be ugly neckbeards, that they're incompetent, socially inept, etc... Girls treat nerds pretty poorly. To me it sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
/r/MensRights17/09/11 06:17 AM
1

Seriously hard to watch.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 03:31 AM
1

The theory behind feminism should be the theory behind MR. Equality in the legal sense of the word. Feminists do not stop at equality under the law, they want women to be just as or more powerful than men so that it's equal. This means they will sue companies like walmart because they don't fire competent male supervisors to hire women. Walmart as a private company should by no means be forced into hiring women who aren't as competent as the men they had hired. Feminists also want women to get p…
/r/MensRights05/09/11 10:35 AM
3

That reminds me of female cops.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 10:42 AM
3

I was just about to post the full episode, good job there. It's so worth it to watch the whole thing.
/r/MensRights31/08/11 06:57 AM
5

I agree with what you're saying. I don't think a man should have a choice over a woman with abortion. But if a man doesn't want to be a father and she decides against adoption or abortion, he shouldn't be forced into a fatherly role.
/r/MensRights26/08/11 08:50 PM
1

TIL that sam kinnison had a kid with a guy's wife and now she's forcing the original guy who's also a commedian to pay child support
/r/MensRights19/08/11 07:44 PM
-1

Specifically, they disapprove of r/mensrights' blanket condemnation of all feminists It's not so much that MRA's hate all feminists but the feminist movement. The movement as a whole has done terrible things to men, it's only fair that we blame them for their misdoings.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 08:13 PM
3

thank you
/r/MensRights15/08/11 05:35 AM
1

Thanks for taking the time to show the clear bias. It's pretty obvious the motivation for these kinds of studies.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 08:06 AM
3

There's a lot of questionable things going on here, I don't think we should rush to any conclusions. She may have been just fighting back.
/r/MensRights12/08/11 03:19 AM
3

Men can be looked at as property but not as equals. Oh feminism, you've truly lost your roots.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 04:56 AM
2

I don't think you understand...
/r/MensRights10/08/11 07:57 AM
3

I kind of agree with this one. She shouldn't have said it, but I don't think she's saying it's a good thing. It seems like a dumb joke. Odds are she just slipped and said something that wasn't very nice to men out of frustration. I would probably do the same.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 07:45 AM
1

Seriously, if this is what feminist thought is, the next logical step is to strip men of their power to these potential rapists don't rape.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 06:22 PM
1

I know this is parody, but it so closely resembles the actual thought process.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 07:44 AM
2

You know, there's a lot of men out there who rape, that's a fact. But I'm a guy like many guys out there who would never rape a girl and it hurts when someone insinuates that I'm a step away from rape because I'm a guy. Edit: meanwhile, feminists often appeal to emotional abuse, saying that they don't want to be oppressed verbally. Do they not realize that calling all men rapists is verbally abusive?
/r/MensRights08/08/11 07:40 AM
5

The type of man who does/says sexual harassing things is really a rapist waiting to get loose. It is a frank disregard (and hatred) of women as people. Harassment needs to be considered a prelude to potential rape – and treated as such by authorities. One of the comments, I'm not sure if anyone posted this already. This is fucking ridiculous. More treatment of men as being potential rapists.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 07:28 AM
1

sarcasm It's totally acceptable because women have been given a role of servitude for so long that in order to have equality, we need to give women more power over men to even it out. We also need to counteract the patriarchy by getting rid of relationships with male authority and replacing them with female authority. It's only fair.
/r/MensRights08/08/11 07:15 AM
2

Holy shit, thank you.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 08:15 PM
2

Well, I don't think it would drop any less or more than other crimes, but if I have my facts straight, I think most crimes aside from things like internets crimes have been on the decline in the last 20 years, although again, I could be wrong. So we should probably see a decline, probably not disproportionate to the decline in other crimes.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 10:57 AM
4

I'd like to take a second to mention that the study is 21 years old now. So it is a little dated.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:43 AM
4

I like how the link not only shows that women attack more often across the board, but they also attack with more severity. So much for the "men can hurt women more" defense. Not that it wasn't already a crock of shit argument.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 09:41 AM
4

To add to this point, if he does it he might need to ask the school for permission to run it. If he does that and they turn him down, he can sue them for discrimination.
/r/MensRights30/07/11 10:51 PM
2

In all fairness I think the point he's making is that marriage is only at the benefit of the woman long term. Divorce, alimony, child support, child custody, it all goes in her favor. I'm sure you know the risks.
/r/MensRights29/07/11 07:28 PM
1

That was very eloquently put. I'd also like to note that pointing out a woman lacks looks is considered offensive, but pointing out a guys success is not a taboo. Another double standard.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 11:01 PM
1

Yes, they are. But I wanted to clarify that self worth for men comes from masculinity/success, where as women derive it from attraction. At least that's how I often observe it.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 10:54 PM
0

I'm not saying it's innate. I'm saying it's oppressed on people from society to either be masculine or feminine. Maybe I should have been specific about that.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 02:31 PM
4

There have been several cases of false rape claims that basically go along this premise. A girl regrets having sex with a man, like when she has a boyfriend. Since it's actually happened before I have no problem upvoting this.
/r/MensRights21/07/11 11:39 AM
1

I try to use light words when talking about insanity. I just have an odd perception of the world.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 03:45 PM
21

Holy fuck this is the most disgusting talk. I really think this is what bothers me the most about misandry. It's talked about like men are always guilty, and women are always victims. You would think that after all the violence commit by women in the media recently you would think that people are catching on, but they're not. We live in a society where women have social and legal advantages over men (child support, alimony, child custody, etc...). And not only do they have advantages over men, t…
/r/MensRights17/07/11 07:03 AM
1

This totally should happen, just not by me.
/r/MensRights16/07/11 11:38 AM
1

huh?
/r/MensRights15/07/11 05:58 AM
1

Thats marriage for you
/r/MensRights13/07/11 07:06 AM
1

I mentioned in another thread yesterday that I don't think we should sleep with just one person. Mostly because sex is in no way linked to love personally.
/r/MensRights13/07/11 12:20 AM
3

Actually, that seems rather logical. At least this way we can put a name to the trolls. Not to put ideas in the trolls head.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 07:28 AM
1

Yeah, I totally agree with that.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 05:14 AM
2

Yeah, it's a real hassle occasionally.
/r/MensRights12/07/11 02:24 AM
1

Also, I want to highlight the part I'm directly referencing. While there were a few sex differences on some of the personality and individual psychological variables, rarely did males and females differ in terms of social, personality, and individual psychological predictors of hookup experience. Contrary to our prediction based on the continued sexual double standard for men and women that selfesteem would be lower for women who had experienced hookups and higher for men who had experienced hoo…
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:47 PM
1

As a college student this really interests me. I definitely see this phenomena, and from men and women alike I hear the opposite. Hooking up a lot doesn't seem to heighten anyone's self esteem. Although I think this is due to society calling hook ups bad. Not because there's actually anything wrong with hooking up.
/r/MensRights11/07/11 11:40 PM
1

sure it's fox, but give it a read through
/r/MensRights07/07/11 07:32 PM
4

False rape claims are more common than you think.
/r/MensRights07/07/11 06:02 AM
5

Yep, life can be hard for both men and women, legally and socially.
/r/MensRights07/07/11 02:21 AM
1

So much for not being sensationalist, THIS SUBREDDIT IS FULL OF SHIT But yeah, at least it was consistent
/r/MensRights06/07/11 11:44 PM
1

Lol. You said something incorrectly, my degree in english is finally useful.
/r/MensRights03/07/11 02:38 AM
3

I'm an atheist as well. I notice it's a trend to attack atheists as a whole. Since the group itself is considered fringe or degenerate by some, my argument must be invalid. It's as if people are listening, but just waiting to write off everything you say as being baseless. Whats terrible is that atheists are so often on the defensive, that they get fairly decent at arguing. Then Christians see how well atheists argue, and assume they must be argumentative. I think it's similar with mens rights, …
/r/MensRights30/06/11 08:53 AM
1

Exactly the same thing here. I thought about equality under the law and noticed that we are very unequal to women. And that equality instead of privileges (on both sides) would be better.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 01:41 PM
1

While I myself am a liberal and disagree with many libertarian views. I will say this, the man who I feel really started the tea parties was Ron Paul. And his actual voting record is supporting individual liberties the majority of the time. That said, he is anti-abortion, anti-immigrant, and anti-taxes. I hope I don't start an argument, I just want to be helpful.
/r/MensRights13/06/11 06:43 AM
1

Well, the reason I question the idea is this. I think of rape as I think of any other crime. They're not really looking for the most attractive person to hurt. They're looking at the easiest person to attack. Provocative clothing may simply not come into the picture. And since we don't have enough evidence on the matter, we really can't know for sure, but since things seem to go my way, I'm more inclined to feel that I'm right in assuming rapists usually don't focus on clothing. The reason I say…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 04:18 AM
5

I see where you're coming from. I'm just trying to get that message across. I've seen women make mistakes in college, I'm still in college, and I can tell you from personal experience, women make themselves ten times more vulnerable by drinking, and specifically drinking without a friend. I never drank alcohol a day in my life.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 10:01 PM
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To be honest, I've done my research, and I can't find a single stitch of evidence saying that women who get raped are more likely to dress provocatively. In fact, most evidence points in the other direction, that rape victims are dressed normally. As a community I would like it if we stuck to the facts. And the facts show that alcohol is a much bigger factor in rape than clothing. If you want to prevent rape, like everyone on this subreddit does, tell them to stop getting pass-out drunk, don't t…
/r/MensRights11/06/11 09:19 PM
89

My dumpster is not for babies. Women can stop infanticide.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 08:40 PM
2

Well, heres the thing. I don't really trust the "facts" on this one, but supposedly, most rapists don't remember what their victims were wearing, and in most cases women are wearing something like jeans and a tshirt. Now I've seen these lines spread before, and I've looked them up on google. I can't actually find ANY numbers behind them, and I'd love to find the numbers, but I can't. What I will say is that if we don't have proof to the opposite. That is, if we can't prove that rapists go after …
/r/MensRights11/06/11 05:13 PM
2

Well in that case it's still the fact that they're vulnerable which makes them the victim. The slutty dress seams to just be a coincidence.
/r/MensRights11/06/11 06:41 AM
2

Honestly, I'm glad it got all the upvotes it did, this subreddit never ceases to amaze me. What confuses me is this: How far are we willing to go with this argument? They'll say a man shouldn't show off money in a ghetto. But should he not wear a suit in general for fear of being mugged? Should a man never wear tight clothing for fear of being raped by another guy? How far are we willing to push this. What would really impress me is if we saw criminals the way they are. They are people who spot …
/r/MensRights11/06/11 06:41 AM
1

Most comments on the thread reflect that already
/r/MensRights10/06/11 05:05 PM
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Dressing like a slut doesn't get you raped. The girl who's dressed like a slut is most likely to have a lot of male attention on her. Thats a hard victim to rape. The silent, drunk, passed out girl in the corner is a great rape victim because no one will notice where she went at 3 in the morning. OPs scenerio is one that seems like it makes sense, but really it's not. Rapists would probably love to rape the slutty girl, but that's not a good victim oddly enough. Being drunk and passing out is wa…
/r/MensRights10/06/11 03:28 PM
2

I applaud you.
/r/MensRights09/06/11 06:14 AM
1

If we just define feminism as equal legal opportunities to men, we'd probably all be feminists. We'd all be MRAs too if we defined it similarly
/r/MensRights09/06/11 03:22 AM
8

I'm sorry to hear that. Such an unfair double standard.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 04:22 PM
2

Thanks for keeping an open mind about it. If there was a way to transfer karma I'd do it for you.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 03:53 PM
2

Wow, I didn't bother looking for a repost because I figured they'd only take it right from her youtube account if anything. My bad.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 02:51 PM
4

Makes her seem rather intelligent.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 04:26 AM
7

Watch some of her other videos, especially her old ones. Like this.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 04:26 AM
-1

Nvm, I saw it.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 03:32 AM
2

Is it the one with the make up? If it is, I've seen it. Hilarious.
/r/MensRights08/06/11 02:58 AM
1

Well, thats reddit for you. Personally I agree that sexuality is heavily dependent on culture. Our homophobia in this country is out of hand. Men are afraid to be labeled as gay or bi. And the more men are afraid of it the worse it gets. I don't think it's a fear thing that makes people change from being straight to gay. It's like growing up in a culture where a certain type of food or music is considered bad, if your taste develops in a certain way, you likely wont change it even if it's irrati…
/r/MensRights07/06/11 09:26 PM
3

Personally I think this would be great if it was for both men and women. What bothers me the most about this is that they excuse the women's behaviors. the underlying reasons for many women's offending, such as drug and alcohol addiction, mental health and their often long histories of domestic violence and abuse. Meanwhile men aren't seen as having underlying reasons for offenses. When obviously it's true of both sexes. Regardless, we should try to have rehabilitation and not prisons. Prisons d…
/r/MensRights07/06/11 07:26 PM
3

Well in fairness one thing you said is that straight men may be more sexually timid than non-straight men. And while I've seen several bisexual guys, I've also seen plenty of gay men who wouldn't touch a woman. And thats just saying that straight guys aren't afraid to try new things, they don't want to because there's no attraction there. And that happens with plenty of gay men too. hope this helps
/r/MensRights07/06/11 01:11 PM
7

To be fair, thats like the saying "I'm just saying". If one were to say something like, "you're fat, I'm just saying..." it doesn't really stop people from getting annoyed. While I agree you were just presenting a view point and you weren't trying to sound arrogant. I think you'll be very disappointed if you expect people to react to that correctly. Sorry, I argue a lot so I like to give advice when I can. Take it or leave it.
/r/MensRights07/06/11 02:10 AM
4

If this were written from a straight male's perspective it would be sexist. just complainin'
/r/MensRights07/06/11 02:04 AM
44

Lets not get involved in petty arguments. Anyone who actually reads this subreddit for more than a minute can tell that we're not misogynists, we're just looking for equality.
/r/MensRights03/06/11 12:10 PM
3

Simply put, you'll never see something censored to that extent on mensrights
/r/MensRights26/05/11 05:18 AM
8

I never really saw this as a big issue, some people like to sleep with many different people. Others like to stay in long term relationships. I usually respect both, different people want different things is the way I look at it. I usually respect someone based on their intelligence, common sense, and other meaningful factors.
/r/MensRights17/05/11 03:01 PM
1

I agree with you. We need to ask ourselves whether or not sex at that age should be forbidden or not. Then we need to enforce it without a bias. I was just trying to wrap my head around the cognitive dissonance is all.The double standard of sex in this culture is absurd.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 06:07 PM
2

Well, the issue I have with it is that men I know anyway tend to say things along the line of "That kids lucky" and they would never say anything bad about the female statutory rapist. But they don't think it works in the other direction. So they tend to think that enjoyment of the sex is a good reason not to punish the rapist. I just don't think most people would feel the same way about a "lucky" girl getting statutory raped.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 02:49 PM
6

I have a question: With boys getting raped, it's a common thing to say the kid is lucky, and that the boy probably enjoyed the event. Well what if it was a young girl in the situation that claimed to enjoy it? Would our culture still look at it the same? I hope I don't get downvoted for this, I'm seriously doubting that regular people would be okay with a little girl having consent. Unlike these little boys.
/r/MensRights10/05/11 01:19 PM
4

I respect your levelheadedness. I've talked about it before and said it should just be a matter of withholding information or not, and I think you agree with that to an extent. If guys now a days saw transgendered male to females as legitimate women, I don't think it would be worth mentioning at all. Considering they do, I think it's not unfair to ask. It's definitely not the worst thing they could do. But I can see why it would be a big deal for a man.
/r/MensRights09/05/11 02:57 PM
1

I think the real problem here is that there's expectations that are clear and present, and they're being avoided. Which is clear and deliberate withholding of information. For the sake of argument I am treating american gender lines as normal. They're not, but it's not what I'm trying to argue for anyway. So if you're meeting someone new, and there's this big facet of your personality, which you think the other person might care about, is it your responsibility to tell them? Well certainly not, …
/r/MensRights09/05/11 12:33 PM
1

I think this whole issue is a matter of terminology. I learned a practical definition for excuse and justification recently. And I think it applies here. An excuse is when you do something wrong, admit it's wrong, but say that the scenerio forced you to do it/you accidentally did it, and that the wrong doing wasn't your fault. When it comes to periods, a girl is making an excuse when she said being a bitch was wrong, but it wasn't her fault. Alternately a justification is when someone does somet…
/r/MensRights06/05/11 07:31 AM
1

Well in context what I was responding to was him saying: "If you want kids try and find a woman who wont divorce you and claim child support as soon as she gets bored with the relationship. (easier said than done and one reason why the birth rate is dropping)." I was saying adoption is an alternative. But what I was saying was it's different in the sense that you're not making a kid. Thats all.
/r/MensRights28/03/11 03:36 AM
1

Adoption would work, but it's not really your kid.
/r/MensRights27/03/11 05:38 PM
5

Upvote for not being a troll. Thank you kindly.
/r/MensRights23/03/11 11:03 PM
1

Fucking smart
/r/MensRights18/03/11 02:27 PM
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