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Does it, though? I haven't seen it; I only watched this trailer. You're probably right; that is the prevailing mainstream sentiment, and certainly what film-makers use to attract female audiences. I actually want to see this now to see what they do with it.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 05:28 PM
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Did we watch the same trailer? Handsome charming alpha John Stamos is hired to make the other two, who have become complacent men during their marriage, back into attractive men again. One of the wives says "I'm glad you untucked your balls" (presumably after he mans up). If anything, this is a Red Pill example. See: Red Pill LTRs. I'm not singling you out, OP, so please don't take this as a personal attack. But this subreddit has become too much of these kind of posts in the last year -- "look …
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 04:31 PM
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I always thought it was because most redditors are college kids. Young people are exploring their new adulthood, sexuality, and trying to figure out who they are and how they fit into the world. Colleges are always hotbeds of political debate/discussion, and a lot of outrage against the status quo. It's an environment where "intellectual" debates are prevalent, and they are still desperate to fit in. As people get older and get jobs, they find that all that stuff isn't as relevant to them anymor…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 03:49 PM
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Thanks for clearing up my misconception. I mean that sincerely :)
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:10 PM
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You mean "oxymoron." A non sequitur is an unrelated comment, like if I chimed in "I like pancakes."
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 05:55 PM
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If they keep it 50/50 from the beginning, they can avoid all kinds of HR or legal issues. That's what most HR departments are concerned about -- they're terrified of any kind of actions coming their way and do whatever they can to avoid potential problems. Most of the "problems" they foresee never come to pass. As in this example, it is very unlikely an engineering firm would achieve a 50/50 gender staffing ratio. In practical terms, most of the stuff HR departments decide ends up being a major …
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 08:24 AM
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Yeah, I get that. Doesn't matter from an HR perspective. And try to relax.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 04:10 PM
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From an HR perspective, I can totally see why this would happen. You have a 75/25 M-F ratio now, that is totally subject to change in the future. They can't just redesign the facilities every time there's a different ratio. They're just trying to cover their asses for all kinds of situations that could potentially arise. It sucks your good idea got derailed in committee, but that could come from any kind of chump, male or female. We don't have to turn everything into a gender war around here. Wo…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 01:08 PM
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I've noticed this when watching Australian shows on TV. It's rampant. Once I noticed the up-talking, it was all I could focus on.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 02:15 PM
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reads headline I'm gonna go ahead and guess "they dig it." reads thread Yeah.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 03:56 PM
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One day the Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake!” The Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man, “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The young man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would b…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:20 AM
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RP theory is about what behaviors and patterns naturally attract women. How you apply that knowledge is up to you. You can use it to pursue 100s of notches on the bedpost, or to attract the highest quality woman possible for a long-term commitment. Or whatever you want in between. We all have different goals. RP opens up options for you.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 04:46 AM
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Right. Alpha Man can moisturize, as long as he does it in a manly way.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/13 04:54 AM
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Fantastic post. This is what this subreddit should be all about. Thanks for taking the time to write all this and post it.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/13 06:20 PM
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Was getting hot and heavy with this sexy blonde I've been wanting for a couple weeks. But she wasn't DTF because she's on the rag. Ended up banging this other HB8 the same night. Both of them keep texting me relentlessly. Haven't pursued either of them in the last 3 days because I'm focusing on my business. Taking care of my financial fitness. The female abundance is always present; when I'm finished with my business tasks I'll shack up with one or both of them, or another one altogether. Life's…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/13 03:32 PM
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First two posts about being a Westerner in the 3rd World reminded me of this article: http://postmasculine.com/life-through-the-eyes-of-a-beautiful-woman
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 09:10 PM
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I love it. You saw exactly where the interactions were going and why. You controlled your frame and what you were looking for (or not looking for, in the Jane drama situation). Abundance mentality feels great, doesn't it? 10 years ago, I would have done anything to bang either of these girls in those situations. These days, I can be selective, because I have abundance -- which oddly, creates more abundance! Life's funny like that. I've turned down more pussy in the past 2 years than I ever had t…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 08:49 PM
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This is a level beyond going from one position in the game to another (beta to alpha strategy). This is transcending the game entirely. You don't leave it, but you gain a meta-perspective on it. It's like becoming self-aware. It's the true meaning of being redpilled. What you did that night was to know the rules of the game so well that you could interrupt them and control them, rather than being controlled by them or trying to get them to work for you as if they're mystical gods. You went beyon…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 08:43 PM
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I seldom ask a girl for her number. I prefer to jockey into position where she offers me hers. If it seems like it's her idea, it's a much more positive interaction. By "jockey into position" I mean steering the conversation/interactions to where she knows she has to meet you again.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 08:24 PM
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Thanks. I've been struggling with the "dark triad" stuff.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/13 08:21 PM
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This is such a keen observation. I've never thought of shopping as entertainment; I figured it was a chore that some people enjoy for some weird reason. Putting it in those terms (viewing shopping as a chore vs. entertainment) is some good insight.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 04:15 PM
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I agree that the red pill is a morally neutral set of observations about male and female behavior, and a set of strategies for navigating the sexual marketplace... I'll do my part to keep it that way. I clearly have different opinions than yours with regards to the other parts of your post. However, it would detract from the forum to turn the discussion into a political-social debate. We can find plenty of that elsewhere, should we seek it. May you attain and share Red Pill knowledge, and use it…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 03:02 PM
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This place isnt misogynist, its about admiring traditional values and social norms. The 1950s was an era where men were men and women were women and everything was fine and fruitful. I completely disagree. This subreddit is about understanding women's behavior and being a better man -- not some retro 50s ideal of "traditional values" that never existed. YOU might love that whitewashed uber-conservative bullshit, but that is NOT what TheRedPill is about.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 02:25 PM
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Been living in Asia for 3 1/2 years now, including one year in Korea. As OP said, they know what it's like to be a woman. And I have also seen lots of Western women get depressed when they see that they can't measure up. I don't even see Western women as sexual beings anymore -- I can't see myself being with a non-Asian woman. The Asian ladies know how to treat a man and they spoil you.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/13 02:14 PM
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There's no fear of the rejection itself, just failure to accomplish what I set out to do. So you're still outcome-dependent. You gotta let go of that. It's all a numbers game. Hell, some of the most fun approaches are when you get blown out of the water, because you have a fun story to tell. You shouldn't care about getting laid/escalating at all. A man who has abundance knows he's going to get laid anyway (either on this approach or one to follow), and simply does not give a fuck.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/13 03:55 PM
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Great post. I like a lot of feminist tenets, like equal rights, a woman should be able to be anything she wants, we should respect their POV/experience. I think these are all good things, because I believe in fairness for all people. The major divergence I have with feminism now is their take on gender roles. Whether it comes from culture or biology, I like my women to be feminine and girly/pretty. I like them to relish that feminine role. Feminism teaches a lot about how that's so awful -- I'm …
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 10:47 AM
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Because we are Morpheus. We liberate men when we spread the knowledge. And like Morpheus, we break things down for people and offer them a choice: The Red Pill or The Blue Bill. Most men still choose The Blue Pill. At least they get to make the choice.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/13 02:19 PM
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Yup. Happens all the time. Bros before hos. It's not worth the drama, not to say, the loss of friendship. You're a valuable commodity. You get to pick and choose. Choose the ones that aren't hooked up with your bros.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/13 08:09 PM
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I know “zeta” is not a Greek letter Yes. Yes it is. Stopped paying attention right there.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/13 08:01 PM
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Eh. But women talk. Men act. We're men. Let them talk. It makes them feel better. We act. We don't need an equivalent whiny article. We wouldn't have time to read it anyway, because we're too busy taking care of business.
/r/TheRedPill19/05/13 07:35 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/13 02:38 PM
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it operates from the perspective that getting women is difficult. It really isn't. I totally agree with this now. But (former?) dorks like me need PUA material and forums to learn that. We need to explicitly learn the "tricks of the trade" to go from an AFC to a PUA. Now that I'm on the other side, I tend to scoff at people with the "I'll never fuck/understand" women mentality. But I used to be there too, and it took experienced guides to take me where I am today.
/r/seduction28/04/13 04:46 PM
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Be social with EVERYONE. Seduce/charm men, women, people you want to take home, people you don't, cool kids, nerds, sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads. Find a way to connect with each person. By building enormous social proof in this way, half of your seduction work (of the people you DO want to fuck) is done for you. Since this is Reddit, I know the inevitable "but I'm socially awkward/ I'm an introvert/ I can't do it" posts will come 'a' flyin'. Guess wha…
/r/seduction28/04/13 04:24 PM
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How did you do that?
/r/seduction18/04/13 05:37 PM
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Brilliant!
/r/seduction18/04/13 05:35 PM
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Also I'm bad with names... Mnemonic devices. They work. Set yourself apart by being good with names.
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:51 PM
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Going alone to a party can be liberating, because you are free to chat up everyone without any social expectations from others. Chat up everyone -- guys, girls and anyone in between. There's loads of material around about how to be a good conversationalist. The number one tip: get people to talk about themselves. You start with the typical getting to know you chitchat (where you from, what do you do, etc.) and try to segue that into something that they are passionate about. Also, try to remember…
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:49 PM
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I expected this article to suck, but ended up liking it. I think it addresses your question -- having the good, active traits described without the socially negative aspects of those traits. The term "alpha male" indeed carries a lot of baggage. I think of myself as an alpha male, but seldom describe myself to others as such because of that baggage.
/r/seduction18/04/13 04:37 PM
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Go out with the intention of crashing and burning. Get rejected on purpose. See hoe spectacularly you can fail. If you do this, you can have a lot of fun with it. You'll also slowly realize that rejection is no big deal. You have to hear a lot of nos before you hear a yes. There's a lot of overlap in this with sales. The product you're selling is you.
/r/seduction14/04/13 03:25 PM
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Yup! And have fun with it / don't take it too seriously.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:25 PM
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OK, your initial post and comment are kind of hard to follow (and I read them several times). But, it seems you separate your "friend" self from your "sexual being" self. If you were acting like a sexual being all the time, you wouldn't feel choked up when things get physical suddenly. Try to integrate these two aspects of your personality more closely. Good luck.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:56 AM
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It's all about how you steer the conversation. Listening isn't always about doing the psychologist thing and letting them ramble. You interject with funny/playful stuff. And for the love of God, if they start talking about their issues/dramas steer them away from that shit quick. You want to keep the frame of being an exciting/fun man, not their therapist/girlfriend.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:48 AM
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Why the fuck are you getting downvoted? This is straight from the manual. It's completely solid advice.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:44 AM
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A "prospective" girlfriend? Sounds like you are way too outcome-dependent, and this is what messed you up. You also have one-itis. Time to go back to class, son. Read the sidebar.
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:40 AM
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Some people, me in particular, just aren't very social. Stop believing this. You've resigned yourself to being "not social." Like it's a congenital disease or birth defect. The truth is, some people are naturally social. They don't need PUA tips. The rest of us have to work at it and become social. It's a skill, and like any other skill, you get better at it the more you practice. You suck at it at first, and it's easier to give up than keep plugging along. If you persist, you get better at it a…
/r/seduction07/04/13 06:21 PM
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Came here to say this (fuck ten other women). If you haven't forgotten her by number 7 or 8, you're actually a character in a romcom.
/r/seduction07/04/13 05:55 PM
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Korean dude had a confident, sexual frame. The girls were into it. You've been conditioned to not be sexual right away because it's "rude." Korean dude embraces his sexuality and acts sexual. I bet he acts this way to lots of women, and a lot of them are turned off right away. These girls happened to be into it on this occassion. He keeps doing his thing because he knows it will work for him a certain percentage of the time. I can't get over the fact that if someone were to approach a girl, and …
/r/seduction07/04/13 05:51 PM
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Indeed. I prefer the Jolly Roger.
/r/seduction26/03/13 04:41 PM
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Ditto for Art of War, and also the Tao Te Ching. Art of War uses a lot of Taoist principles. My favorite quote from AOW is "the greatest warrior wins without fighting." What this means is that he has won the battle before it begins, he has redirected the energy/forces/players/battle/game to accord with his will, and the outcome is good for all. However, it is the Art of WAR -- not the art of peace negotiations. He has a lot of specific examples about how to win medieval Chinese wars. It's got al…
/r/seduction26/03/13 04:38 PM
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Great article! This is totally where I'm at with Pick Up. I got into this initially to get girls, but my goal totally has shifted to overall self-improvement. It's all about creating a quality vibe for your life and person, so women are naturally attracted to you. Picking up girls is just part of it now -- but still a really fun one. So many people think being a PUA is about saying some magic words to trick women into sleeping with you, and that's so far from the truth -- as if that were even po…
/r/seduction22/03/13 03:31 PM
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Great Field Report. I love the opener. I also love staying with the 3-second rule so effectively. Good job!
/r/seduction22/03/13 02:58 PM
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You're never fully dressed without a smile.
/r/seduction13/03/13 06:18 AM
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Cheers!
/r/seduction09/03/13 05:50 AM
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Excellent, my friend.
/r/seduction09/03/13 05:48 AM
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Ah, understood.
/r/seduction09/03/13 05:48 AM
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Yikes. I will try to apply the wisdom of your cautionary tale.
/r/seduction08/03/13 04:14 PM
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Nice FR. I was amused that you felt down for not getting her number, but you ended with a kiss. Sounds like you had a fun time! Which is the point. It's no biggie you didn't get a # this time. There will be plenty of babes and plenty of #s. It's all practice. I totally feel ya on the whole "don't ask for the number or you'll seem needy/creepy" thing. Sometimes I don't go for it because of that. Other times, I dare myself to risk looking creepy and ask for it. And sometimes, yeah, your worst fear…
/r/seduction08/03/13 04:07 PM
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A fair point.
/r/seduction06/03/13 07:57 PM
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I find it amusing when people say "HB6". You remember that HB stands for "hot babe", right? So she would be a 6 -- not a HB6. Anyway, good on ya! You don't learn anything if yo don't take chances. There is no failure except in not trying.
/r/seduction06/03/13 03:43 PM
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I see your point about being confident she'll call. If this works for you, more power to you. However, I see problems with this. When someone calls or texts me, I want to know who it is. I don't take calls from numbers I don't recognize. My approach is almost the exact opposite of yours. I generally never give out my number to a girl. Instead, I make her come up with the idea that is is a good idea for her to give me her number. It makes them more invested in you. But then, that's my style. I at…
/r/seduction17/02/13 04:55 PM
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I think it's interesting. I think there is a connection between not jerking off and getting more girl action. This can be psychological, social, or just you make more effort to get girls when you can't fap. A lot of the nofappers have good insights to offer about that. One thing I don't like about nofap is there's a tendency of some commenters to equate fapping with other vices and they have a crusader mentality to turn nofap into the masturbatory equivalent of Alcoholics Anonymous. We all gotta…
/r/seduction17/02/13 04:42 PM
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It was written in 1936 and uses old timey language and references, but the principles are solid. Have fun, my friend. You can go far.
/r/seduction16/02/13 08:33 PM
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You wrote quite a long post here, and I read it all. I admire your lack of hesitation to put yourself out there. You clearly have no problem with approach anxiety. Good job! However, every single one of these approaches crashed and burned because of some underlying akwardness or clumsiness. This happens sometimes. It might be an off night, it might be statistical averages, or you might need some work on some other aspects of your game. Sounds like you at least had fun with it, which is good. Eve…
/r/seduction16/02/13 07:33 PM
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Right on! You went for it and it paid off. Pretty fun, huh? And if things don't work out, who cares -- she's just some fry girl at the A&W.
/r/seduction16/02/13 06:50 PM
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Not to mention that travelling women are easy pickins. They have a heightened sense of adventure and are open to new possibilites. And they know what happens in Other Place stays in Other Place. Good times.
/r/seduction16/02/13 06:46 PM
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Teach the dogs some tricks. It reflects good on you and the dog. Ladies love it. Segue into other topics.
/r/seduction16/02/13 12:46 AM
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Well spoken. The most "alpha" thing you can be is someone who makes others feel good about themselves. It demonstrates confidence, class, and charisma. It's the highest valence level on the Alpha Chart of Alpha-ness.
/r/seduction05/02/13 03:29 PM
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She's just a person -- her being hot shouldn't affect you. Be yourself around her. Super-gorgeous women are used to everyone being fake around them (they all want something), so she appreciates sincerity. Don't think "I'm not worthy" -- someone is going to get to fuck her. Wouldn't you rather that person be you? Get a push-pull attraction going like you would with any other girl. It's all just playful fun. Hot chicks like to be seduced, too.
/r/seduction27/01/13 02:03 PM
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Okay, try this one on: All these sexually-repressed women need/crave a badboy in their lives. Be the badboy.
/r/seduction27/01/13 01:53 PM
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Thank you.
/r/seduction25/01/13 10:34 AM
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Good on you. All this stuff is just info, and you make of it what you will. Some people use it to score as bunch of notches on the bedpost, some use it to find "the one." And everything in between. It's all about being a more attractive man. Use it as you will.
/r/seduction24/01/13 03:00 PM
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I like it. The more girly the article of clothing, the more potential for playful laughs. Good show.
/r/seduction24/01/13 02:47 PM
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I used to get flustered by compliments. Something that helped me was this piece of ettiquette advice: When someone gives you a compliment, a sincere "thank you" is all that's required. It makes me feel less pressured, like I "owe" someone something. Maybe this will be helpful for you.
/r/seduction24/01/13 02:46 PM
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Smile. Keep your hands relaxed, at your sides. Don't wear sunglasses.
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:15 AM
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8-9 months? This one better be just one girl you are trying to schmooze. Sounds like you have a bad case of one-itis going on here. Since the language barrier is so present, the only productive time is when you are with her physically. If that's not possible, there's no point in putting energy into this. You got excited because you have ""good chemistry" with a pretty girl. Now go make it happen again with more hot girls who are available.
/r/seduction01/12/12 01:01 PM
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Not to take away from your point about persistence, but it was Thomas Edison who was credited with inventing the lightbulb.
/r/seduction01/12/12 12:55 PM
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This guy gets it. This is suppossed to be fun, not anxiety-laden. Have fun, don't worry, be happy -- and they will come a' runnin. Good post.
/r/seduction01/12/12 12:47 PM
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Berns’s study also found that there was almost no connection between his subjects’ stated preferences and what their brain activity showed. “This suggests that our reward pathways may not only be activated without our recognition, but perhaps even in ways that are contrary to what we think we prefer,” Friedman says. This should be written on 12-foot high letters on the mountaintops. Women often say they like certain traits, but clearly go for different. It's not because they are lying. They real…
/r/seduction22/11/12 04:57 PM
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I don't think his sample selection is scientific. He was dating women in Manhattan. Hardly representative of all American women. That being said, I much prefer dating Asian women. They are more appreciative, have less hang-ups, and don't get fat.
/r/seduction22/11/12 04:53 PM
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Read the material and decide for yourself. You don't have to try anything here. Read the FAQs; see if it gets interesting or makes sense. Mystery mentions how he prefers the term "attraction," to "seduction," and I thoroughly agree. I much prefer the term attraction. In this community, you can learn how to create attraction. Your aim is to become more magnetic, interesting, high value, desirable -- attractive to women. The woman goes home with you because she's having a fabulous time with an exc…
/r/seduction19/11/12 01:45 PM
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I think sometimes about when I was 8, and what I thought then about what I'd be like as an adult. I owe it to that kid to be as cool as he thought he was gonna be when he was a grown-up. Here's my tips for "being the man you always wanted to be:" Get and stay healthy. Learn how to eat properly. Get in regular exercise you enjoy. Keep improving your social skills. Read every "How to Talk to People" book you find. Keep challenging yourself to be the most charming, conversational, and social person…
/r/seduction19/11/12 12:54 PM
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Did I just hear someone say "conga line"? Seriously, who can resist a conga line? Nobody, that's who.
/r/seduction15/11/12 04:45 PM
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According to me. My standards. This is the frame I set.
/r/seduction06/11/12 10:04 PM
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If I have spent the energy and creativity to build an interesting life for myself, have become the best version of myself I can, and make everyone feel light and playful when I'm around, then yes, I deserve the best women :)
/r/seduction06/11/12 02:13 PM
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If you're too nice, you are boring and predictable. Girls like the badboy because he's unpredictable, which is exciting. You don't have to be the badboy. Throw in some unpredictability with your nicetude.
/r/seduction06/11/12 01:52 PM
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Did you smile when you made contact with people? A sincere, warm smile is always returned.
/r/seduction06/11/12 01:40 PM
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Excellent compromise! I find if I'm at the bar drinking water, someone invariably makes it into a "thing." Then there's weird energy because you're "the guy who doesn't drink." Great way to diffuse the potential bad vibe.
/r/seduction06/11/12 01:17 PM
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The responses are exactly what I'd expect. No girl is going to go out with a random stranger who hasn't chatted them up yet. If the first thing you say to a woman is "will you go out with me?" of course she will say no. You have to build up some comfort, attraction and rapport first.
/r/seduction03/10/12 06:29 AM
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Conflict avoidance. It's of the ways they communicate. When they make some excuse other than "I'm not into you" you are supossed to read between the lines / mind read and know they really mean "I'm not into you." Supposedly, they can interpret these kind of subtle signals from each other with no difficulties. In their communication mileu, it is better to avoid conflict so nobody loses face. It's a perfectly honest and acceptable way of dealing with situations in their world.
/r/seduction02/10/12 11:52 AM
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Above all else, this stuff is supossed to be enjoyable. My take is that all the specifics are there to guide you until you become a "natural;" i.e., it becomes internalized. Go out and take a break from worrying about "running game". My bet is that you've already internalized a bunch, so "game" behavior will naturally come out. But seriously, if it isn't fun anymore, take a step back and figure out what your motivation is. You want to have fun.
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:46 AM
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Smiles are awesome. Put a lot of energy into it. You will get smiles back. It might lead to something.
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:42 AM
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Make sure she knows you are specifically recruiting her for that role. Most girls LOVE it and will get way into it. Not all of them are smooth or effective, but it's definitely a fun time for all.
/r/seduction01/10/12 02:30 AM
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Commitment's fine and dandy. My take was he didn't follow up with the umbrella girls because he "had a thing" for the church gal. It wasn't clear to me if they were dating already or not.
/r/seduction30/09/12 10:57 AM
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Cool story, btw. But you see where I was going with the "church girl" question, right? He denied himself the opportunity with those 2 hotties because of his oneitis about her... oh well.
/r/seduction29/09/12 01:26 PM
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How did things work out with him and church girl?
/r/seduction29/09/12 01:08 PM
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This is a great read! You put a lot of good stuff together. I love the part -- someone always knows where the cool haps are -- BE that guy. Of course! I like to go to events alone too, for the reasons you mentioned. I always try to meet a lot of people when I go out alone. Establish instant social proof, etc. Chat people up. Sometimes you end up meeting people you actually might want to see later.
/r/seduction28/09/12 08:03 PM
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This article has the same snarky tone that a lot of writers have when they talk about the PUA community. They have already judged the community to be a bunch of losers who want to learn how to trick a bunch of women into sleeping with them. I don't care if they snark on the community or not, but it clearly shows they haven't done their research. I find it especially amusing when a male author, as here, poo-poos PUAs, and I think to myself "you should just check it out a little more, man -- you c…
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:58 PM
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Each approach is just practice and fun. Some of my "failures" have been more fun than my successes. Playing the game in and of itself is fun. Outcome doesn't matter.
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:40 PM
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You will either a end up fucking her and getting in this weird sitch being the "other man" or b keep talking to her and become her emotional therapist hearing about her relationship problems whenever you talk. If neither of these options appeal to you, just don't call her anymore. It's fun you got a hottie's number, but it's not really worth it to involve yourself in her drama. Unless you want the crazy drama.
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:23 PM
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i'd hate to beat a dead horse, but "seduction" for women is almost as simple as talking to the guy, and then demonstrating interest through body language, and words. sounds familiar, but the difference is that she ultimately controls the extent of the interaction (assuming most guys want to have sex with her). This is conventional wisdom in PUA circles, and it makes sense on the surface. But I have thought about these 2 points a lot, and I disagree. Please consider my two counterpoints: "Women's…
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:10 PM
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Do you think it's because she wants to pick a fight, or because she just wants some empathy?
/r/MensRights28/08/12 10:49 AM
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Go balls to the wall. Try to hustle a car when you need it to back up the lie. Same with an apartment. You might even make her love you. Eventually the whole thing will come crashing down on you in a dramatic scene at the end of act 2, probably at some public event where a lot of people will witness the speech and make quips as they leave for home, disgusted with you. There will be some bittersweet ending to it all that ties up all the loose ends. Seriously, am I the only one here that sees next…
/r/seduction24/08/12 03:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure that was from Mystery's book. And that was my influence for this attitude.
/r/seduction15/08/12 04:31 AM
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None of us sedditors have the "instinct." That's why we're here. That's why we actively and explicitly learn this skill. The dudes who are "naturals" never have to practice or think about it. 18 is far, far from your prime. Most 18 year olds are completely clueless when it comes to women. If you study and practice this material, you will be light years ahead of your peers, my friend.
/r/seduction14/08/12 06:22 AM
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Thanks for the props. If you have a bunch of numbers, why not go through them and try to get something going? If you have her number already, it's one step closer to getting somewhere.
/r/seduction14/08/12 06:13 AM
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Ugh, that sucks. Maybe you're attracted to flakers? At least you're still getting some f-closes.
/r/seduction14/08/12 06:10 AM
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Agreed -- I'm not saying I never ask for a number. But it's better odds if she asks you for yours.
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:58 AM
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I think it's kind of annoying, but sometimes fun. I'll only exchange a few texts at a time because I'm a busy guy :)
/r/seduction14/08/12 05:57 AM
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Most AFCs would NOT do that. Seriously -- this is not a good friend. Maybe he was joking, I hope so. If you want to continue to be this guy's friend, make him understand that that kind of shit is simply not cool.
/r/seduction13/08/12 05:08 PM
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Average Frustrated Chump. Check out the glossary/faq's for more -- we often bandy about jargon in comments here.
/r/seduction13/08/12 05:06 PM
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Hell yes, it will.
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:24 PM
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Think like a salesman. A salesman has to ask lots of people to buy and gets plenty of "no"s before he gets a yes. When you are chatting up a girl, you are making a sales call -- the product is you, and you want to demonstrate what features make your product better than similar products on the market. But unlike sales, flirting with and attracting women is fun. Get into the fun aspect of it, and you will no longer consider it such a chore.
/r/seduction10/08/12 09:21 AM
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Of course there are risks. There are risks everywhere. A savvy traveller always finds out what they are. An adventurous traveller goes and creates experiences despite the risks. A pussy stays home because he lets fear dictate his actions. Millions of grandmothers tour Thailand every year. Do they let the stories I HAVE been long enough to hear (thanks very much, junior) dissuade them?
/r/seduction09/08/12 05:17 AM
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This article is brilliant. I feel like I know what it's like to be a hot chick back home after living here. Thanks for posting this.
/r/seduction08/08/12 09:34 PM
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Jealous much?
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:53 PM
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Yeah, I think you could be a real ladykiller in Japan. Get your degree and hook up an English teaching job in Osaka (or any big city, really). Go out every night. Have a blast. Meet lots of ladies. Earn lots of stories you can tell your 1/4 Japanese grandchildren. Go all native and shit like Tom Cruise in Last Samurai.
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:39 PM
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Yeah, stay in the USA. It's safe. Comfortable. It's a nice little groove. The border patrol and TSA will keep the bad, scary men away from you. Seriously, there are dangerous places in every country in the world. You know you're not supossed to walk through the 9th Ward in New Orleans at midnight. When you visited Tijuana, someone told you what areas to avoid. When you go to Manila, likewise someone will tell you what's up. As a tourist, you will be hustled through securely by taxis, handlers, w…
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:33 PM
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Interesting. I've never quite come across that before. I've also never been to Thailand. I think people here generally are appreciative for any efforts you make to learn their language. But they will relentlessly mock you when you make the slightest error in pronunciation. Maybe the ladies can't stand the cacophonous sound of you butchering their beautiful language. :) I assume when you ask them why they don't want you to learn more they don't give you a solid answer...
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:53 PM
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Let me ask you this: are you handsome? Are you fat? I don't think you have to be handsome, but being fat is kind of a deal-breaker for Japanese women. I was fat when I lived there (and never did hookup), but the average and ugly looking dudes were doing ok. Some Japanese girls will find you exotic, they are curious about you, they are curious about what it would be like to fuck you, etc. Other Japanese girls won't even give you the time of day. Most foreign dudes there did OK, and some were amaz…
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:40 PM
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I totally agree that there is no reason to DHV here at all. But I don't think the OP is glossing over that. I think he's made it clear that you don't have to have a lot of game to make things happen here. You can be a fat old sugar daddy, a fat young sugar daddy, a broke-ass fat daddy, or a fun charming PUA of any income/fat/daddy level, and you will still have that DHV. So that part of attraction/seduction doesn't enter into the equation. I don't think it was implied anywhere that all the local…
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:29 PM
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Yup. They know you got that American passport, and you have the High Designated Value. One of my friends is Viet Kieu (American of Viet descent), and he is by far the most successful of all of my crew with the ladies. He's the best of both worlds for these ladies -- he's got the rich foreigner cred, but he's not all "weird and foreigny" like the rest of us.
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:07 PM
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I guess you didn't take it either. Sorry if I was too harsh.
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:59 PM
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Right on, man. If you ever come to Ho Chi Minh city, I'll hook you up. And yeah, let the word out. I wish I knew about this place when I was a sexually frustrated lad of 21. You can shout it from the rooftops, but people aren't gonna flock here in droves. Most people are too afraid to leave their home countries to live abroad, even for a year, and you and I both know it. Those who hear the call, and are not afraid, will find a way to make it happen no matter what. Not to say that this place isn'…
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:56 PM
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As much as you care to. You learn how to get by. The "let's teach each other our languages" theme is a fun getting to know you game. You can also play with it -- learn wacky stuff and say "i love you" or whatever and they eat it up.
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:40 PM
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It's a shame this comment got downvoted. It is hard to tell here sometimes a beautiful, fun, intelligent woman from a beautiful, fun intelligent woman who is also working. A lot of them here are working until they find their husband -- from their client base. It's a reality of life here most peeps in the States cannot accept/understand, and I think the fact your comment got downvoted shows this.
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:37 PM
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Alpha and beta are zoological/anthropological terms that were borrowed by the seduction community to basically label dominant/passive behavior. Calling a man an "alpha" or "beta" in the seduction context labels how dominant or passive he is with his relations to women. But men (and all people) are more complicated than that. The same man that is the CEO alpha dog in the office may also be the beta in the bedroom, the alpha at the bar, the beta on the golf course, etc. As far as it relates here, …
/r/seduction08/08/12 06:23 PM
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Get comfortable with touching. Be a touchy feely person. Do you like massage? Go get a massage this week and get in touch with (pun coincidental) how good it feels to be touched by other humans. Learn a few massage techniques: just learn how to give a semi-decent foot rub and neck/shoulder/head rub. Give your massages out freely to everyone. Women NEVER will turn down a foot rub or neck rub so long as you have surpassed the "I'm reasonably sure he's not a serial killer" threshhold of your acquai…
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:53 PM
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You know what's it like, when you're with a woman? And her breast is like... a bag... of sand...
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:35 PM
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I like the seduction and attraction. If I see a woman I'm instantly sexually attracted to, I still want to chat with her, feel her out, show her how fun and charming I am, and build some kind of sexual tension and attraction with her before I say "let's go have sex." I've had women do the direct approach to me before (ask to have sex with me before we've built a proper connection), and it was a big turnoff. I need to form some rapport first. I need to be seduced, and to seduce. I wish I could se…
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:32 PM
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I never answer texts right away. That drives them crazy. If you answer a text message right away, you may have just failed a shit test. Texts are a form of nonsynchronous communication, and are meant to be answered/read when I want to. If they need to communicate urgently, that's what the "talky" part of the phone is for. Be unpredictable with your communication patterns. And don't be a text slave to the goddam phone, for crissakes.
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:13 PM
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I thought this was interesting. If anything, I certainly strive to be the personality traits described under ten. But BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! for the quiz you linked. I am NOT giving out me email to godknowswho for the quiz results. That's weak when they pull that shit, and you should be ashamed for posting it.
/r/seduction08/08/12 05:01 PM
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Who wrote this number system? I remember Mystery saying we don't rate women under 6. Maybe it's along those lines a comparison for men.
/r/seduction08/08/12 04:59 PM
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Here's what I got out of this post: if you do the actions of a confident person (outer game), it sends a feedback loop to create confidence in your inner game. The whole "fake it till you make it" thing. I know I actually start to feel happy if I force myself to smile. It's a physical-psychological response. He's making the same case for creating Inner confidence by acting like a confident person would. It's just one more tool for eventually making you as confident as the Dos Equis guy.
/r/seduction08/08/12 04:50 PM
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Yeah, this totally not my style at all. But if it works for the OP, more power to him. I have seen some "smooth barracudas" hypnotize a lady with this approach. I have seen others get blown clear out of the water with it. In both cases, the smooth operator did not give a FUCK about the eventual outcome when he went to go do it.
/r/seduction08/08/12 04:41 PM
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I hate being labeled a player. In my group of primarily male friends, I'm the one that gets with the most women (I'm into PUA lifestyle, they are not). They sometimes tease/praise me by saying what a player I am. But it always is said with just a hint of jealousy. I just usually smirk and laugh it off -- hasn't that hip-hop music you kids listen to these days taught us that it is good to be a player? The word "player" has negative connotations. It certainly has that connection with someone who "…
/r/seduction08/08/12 04:34 PM
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I think that's the point where the material has become internalized. You read the theory, you practiced, and then all of a sudden you're acting what is now normal for you, and women just get blown away by you. Of course, by this time you are dripping with confidence and magnetism anyway, so it's not like you have to make a huge effort.
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:35 PM
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I upvote this.
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:26 PM
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Nothing attracts like confidence. A man who knows himself is very confident.
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:22 PM
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I play "marry, murder or shag." If you're talking to a woman, for example, you pick three random men in the room and she must assign the role of marry, murder or shag to each of them. That is, they have to marry one of the men, murder another, and shag the other. The men can be random strangers, aquaintences, friends, or a mix of all. She then has to explain why she assigns each man his specific role. She then has to choose 3 women for you to marry, murder or shag. It's a really fun game, and pe…
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:19 PM
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Go to a poor country which has the look you are into. Russia and Colombia spring to mind. That story you heard about Thailand is silly. Anywhere you go in the world, including your country, there are people who like foreigners, people who hate them, and most people don't care. Thailand is very safe.
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:01 PM
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Shhhh! Don't let the secret out! :) Southeast Asia is a la-la land for picking up hot chicks. I've been here a year and a half and I never want to go back to America and whiny, bitchy, fat American women. I'm in Vietnam, personally. The girls here are beautiful, fun, love to have sex, and love to take care of their men. I feel sorry for all the poor foreign bastards I meet here who have brought a girlfriend from home with them. I seriously can't keep up with all the women in my life. As a PUA, h…
/r/seduction08/08/12 02:51 PM
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I think there's a similar dynamic in Russia, Ukraine, et al if instead you are into really hot white chicks.
/r/seduction08/08/12 02:45 PM
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Agreed. I prefer to play the attraction game rather than the seduction game.
/r/seduction07/08/12 10:26 PM
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I think it's great that you bumped into the ex on a night where you were having such success. Why? Because you got to feel what "old you" and "new you" are like. You are obviously "new you" now, but seeing her stirred up old emotions and ways of being. It's a good comparison to see just how far you've come. And also, you feel both modes so close to each other -- old and new -- and you can choose which one you want. I'd look at it as a goodbye to the old way of being, "ah, that's what I didn't wa…
/r/seduction16/07/12 03:54 PM
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First time I saw this username was today. I will go ahead and waive my right to make the one joke. (I was totally going to until I saw your post; I can see where it would get old.)
/r/seduction09/07/12 03:47 PM
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Sorry you're getting the downvotes. I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Props to the OP for overcoming that AA -- but this is just a step. Too many guys get too excited to get a phone number. It's a good step for an AFC to get a phone number, something he's never done before. But ultimately, numbers don't mean shit -- it all depends what you do with them.
/r/seduction08/07/12 10:52 AM
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Read Sun Tzu's Art of War and don't ever tell anyone you're applying this to seduction. I'm pretty sure almost everyone will think you're creepy. I have also applied Sun Tzu to seduction. And no, I didn't tell anyone because it sounds creepy :)
/r/seduction07/07/12 11:20 AM
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I almost never ask for a girl's number -- if you sufficiently build up her interest, she will ask you for yours. This happens at a time when you are about to leave each other's company. Macrohatch is right -- you should have stayed with her in the moment. Asking for her number can put her in bitchshield mode. As an aside, I don't consider getting a phone # to be that significant -- a lot of guys pat themselves on the back for a "number-close." Getting a phone # is just a way to continue your att…
/r/seduction03/07/12 11:22 PM
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All these skills can be learned. No one is doomed to be an AFC if they don't want to. Good find; thanks for sharing.
/r/seduction01/07/12 06:39 AM
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It kind of looked like she went to hug him in the video. He took the hug, but if you aren't comfy with that, you can totally spin it. Like say playfully, "whoa, I don't hug people I just met, you perv." Kind of a neg. Later, when you want to escalate, you can refer back to this moment you met, say she's worthy of a hug now. You just escalated kino, brought her back to that hook you established earlier, designated your value and hers, and made things a little more playful and interesting between …
/r/seduction30/06/12 12:08 PM
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I love in the tips how he emphasizes to just start talking to people -- anyone -- and get your social proof flowing. This can get you back in the zone so quickly. Also, when the social proof is flowing, the HBs start to notice you, and you don't even have to worry about noticing them. Makes the interactions with them all the more smoother.
/r/seduction30/06/12 11:56 AM
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