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DiscussionLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:37 AM
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LazerArray/r/askFDS16/03/20 01:23 AM
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CMVLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:47 PM
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Question For WomenLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:55 AM
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CMVLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:39 PM
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CMVLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:14 PM
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CMVLazerArray/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 04:54 PM
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Imma use this, its wrestle mania out here with these people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:42 PM
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You called yourself "head of security". You're stuck on that cause you don't know what hyperbole is The ideas you hold around the protection of your partner are a silly gendered fantasy. opinion backed by nothing but your emotional subjective opinion which is useless in the world of evidence, facts, and logic. I really don't just shit on men. I love and admire men. I'm lucky to have lots of wonderful men in my world and I don't do dumb shit like lump all of a gender together. I shit on TRP becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:41 PM
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I bet most good shooters are men tho right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:35 PM
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But most men couldn't protect a woman from an armed assailant with their bare hands either Never said bare hands, you pulled that outta nowhere. The way you describe it, the duty to protect someone you love has to apply universally where "it's the thought that counts" and not the result. Quote me, what did I say that could have given you that impression. Therefore by your logic if a woman truly loved her man SHE would eagerly volunteer to go downstairs to check on the weird noise in the middle o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:34 PM
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So in the event of a home invasion. It's not the man's job to handle the invaders until police arrive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:29 PM
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Don't point out the exception pretending its the rule. Sure 10% of women can shoot. So what about the other 90%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:27 PM
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What do you mean, i don't see your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:19 PM
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you right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:16 PM
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Pretty much every normal person man and woman knows that men should protect women My mistake was bringing this question to reddit. There are few normal people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:15 PM
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I think YOUR protective instinct is LARPing. I’m not talking to ‘men’ in general I’m talking to you. Based on what? Your emotions? How can you possibly come to that conclusion without knowing a thing about me. I have many wonderful relationships with men. Disagreeing with one silly dude on the internet is not having an issue with an entire gender. Bull, all you ever do on this page is shit on men. Based on your past behavior, nobody would believe you. The only reason you disagree is cause you FE…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:12 PM
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I don't think you know what logic is. I'm confident you can't back that claim up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:05 PM
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sure dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:03 PM
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Because I don't have any issues with men in general. Classic example of women saying one thing and doing another. Shall we go through your posts where you describe the problems you have with men? I understand where your coming from. LOL no you don't. You think men's protective instinct is LARPing. If you go out and ask most men in relationships, you think they are going to agree that their desire to defend their women is LARPing? You have to hold this fantasy in order to feel safe. I get it. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:01 PM
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Here is YOUR problem. You understand very little about men and you don't care to understand in the first place. All you do is project your own assumptions onto others with an attitude. You should know that you are not like most women. Most women want to believe their man is capable of defending them if the time to ever do so comes. Your opinion is not that of the majority. You take you fringe subjective opinion and use it to trash what others think instead of honestly engaging them. This isn't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:47 PM
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Yet most women would instantly dump their man if they heard some intruders downstairs and HE tells HER to check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:37 PM
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I'm someone who will take preemptive measures to protect those I care about. What will you do, just sit and hope things stay peaceful?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:36 PM
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"head of security" hahahahahaha! How is that not LARPing? Head of what security? Do you hand out cards titled "head of girlfriend security"? What you are doing is very disingenuous. You are taking what I said LITERALLY so that you don't have to take it seriously. It's what people do when they run out of logical rebuttals. Mostly common among women lol. Quit acting so bigoted towards others and their opinions just cause you disagree. You come of like a condescending individual with no actual poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:30 PM
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That's obviously not what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:19 PM
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How does my male partner being shot first help me? Why are you already against your own hypothetical man lol? If my male partner has a gun in our home he's already made our home much more unsafe for myself and for him and for anyone who enters it. Wait, a weapon against home invaders is a danger to the family. Why do you already assume whoever is in charge of the gun is irresponsible? Dudes who think they can handle active shooters are the people who end up murdering their neighbors kid or shoot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:18 PM
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Dudes who think it's their "duty" to protect women are insecure, childish, LARPers who really do their partners a disservice or who seek out incompetent partners so that they feel safer. Where does that lack of charity come from? As a man, I'm bigger, stronger, and faster then most of the women I would date. Its only logical that the guy should be the head of security. I know exceptions exist but they are not the majority and that is what I'm speaking on. The threat of other men is real, feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:09 PM
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Are you asking why men and women get together? Bro seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:56 PM
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Nope, they are condemned because hoes have a lower chance of remaining faithful. It's logic, it's because of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:55 PM
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defending those who can not do so themselves. i dont think we disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:50 PM
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I've risked my personal safety yes, because if I didn't, the harassment could have escalated. You have a very bigoted way of looking at my opinion. You won't even give it a chance cause you already decided that my opinion was trash before you even engaged me. You are hostile because I'm a man who wants to make sure the women he cares about are safe? Just cause I believe that you automatically went to "Oh so you think she is a child." I came here to understand the opinions of others, not to fight…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:47 PM
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Let's say most men are not successful home defenders. Cool, but most successful home defenders are men so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:35 PM
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I think it's kinda unfair to assume most men expect a virgin. Sure they will take one but we are aware of the low probability of finding one. Most dudes just don't want a girl sitting on top of Mt. Dickamanjaro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:33 PM
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Oh, lol my b
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:31 PM
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Emotional garbage, find someone else to dump this on. Our desire to protect is exactly why men are the best at leader roles. It can't be denied that women look for protector/provider qualities in men. Real men stay ready to protect what's important to them. Women like you just sit there and hope things stay peaceful. You're not strong and independent, you just benefit from a world MEN MADE SAFE.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:30 PM
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Duty, responsibility, same shit. You do feel some responsibility to keep your agreements. I don't think we disagree really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:22 PM
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The people with the loudest disagreements are redpill rage dudes, feminists, and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:21 PM
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Those are called delusional women. I'm speaking about the woman YOU would chose to cuff. Hope those aren't delusional too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:19 PM
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That's just your bias speaking. I just stated what he said and the counter argument. What Tate said holds up while his opposition was trying to make a point that if your girl can sing to a bear then let her. That's a stupid point to make cause it will never happen and just cause I agree with Tate on that doesn't mean its a problem. It just means that in this instance, he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:18 PM
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So you can handle an armed home invader by yourself? Do you believe most women can?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:13 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:10 PM
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We means the relationship too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:07 PM
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try me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:06 PM
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Experts say... Maybe🤷🏿‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:03 PM
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These people think America is the world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:02 PM
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You didn't even read the post did you lol. I never said men should hover over women. Most women ARE NOT capable of protecting themselves from men who intend to harm them. I know it feels good to pretend you're Black Widow but you aren't. We had to lower military standards cause MOST women couldn't meet the same physical standards as men. Would you date a dude who you felt would run if things went south? Go ahead and lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:01 PM
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We will just have to disagree then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:50 PM
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I said YOUR woman in the post. I mentioned the commitment YOU agreed to be in. What do the sleeper agents among the good girls have to do with my overall point of protecting the woman YOU chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:48 PM
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Great, your wrong. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:44 PM
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A man should always be ready to protect his territory(the things and people he gives a shit about). That include everything you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:43 PM
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My fault, carry on lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:42 PM
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If you hear a bump in the night and your man tell YOU to go check it out, he still gonna be your man tmro?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:41 PM
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So me and you were homies and we went to the club? In this scenario we are lady killers. If you approach a woman of interest and found a way to slide in the fact that you wouldn't protect her (like you said). What do you believe your chances are of closing. I ask because I don't believe any woman with knowledge that you wouldn't protect her would give you the time of day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:39 PM
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No, your in rage because you felt the need to talk about how manipulative and dishonest women are when it had nothing to do with the topic. Why do you insist on mentioning the bad ones when I made it clear this is about the good ones? The woman you would CHOOSE would be a good one right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:35 PM
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Reach
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:29 PM
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Nature/Logic. The fact that it works and has worked. The lack of alternative is also something you can look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:28 PM
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Never said I didn't like it man, read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:27 PM
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So why wouldn't the same apply if a woman loves a man? Why wouldn't she feel a duty to protect him? I never claimed she wouldn't. But MOST women CAN'T protect a man from a physical threat. She protects him in other ways sure, but physicality is our domain as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:24 PM
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What grounds do you have to make that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:22 PM
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How many women in general can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:21 PM
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Nah, I'm right. You just don't know it yet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:20 PM
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Cowards don't get laid, I'll be happy to take your share.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:19 PM
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I pray you make it out of the redpill rage phase man, see you on the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:18 PM
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Dude, I already know that stuff, you came in like nobody knew that. That just wasn't the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:16 PM
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Most women aren't fit to fullfill that role. Physically, most women cannot compete. To put most women in that role would be illogical. If nobody fills that role, we suffer. Only a man can fill that role. "If I don't who will?"-Son Goku
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:14 PM
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I said YOUR woman. Not a random girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:12 PM
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You're supposed to get through the redpill rage phase, not marinate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:11 PM
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I know all that stuff man but that's not the topic. If YOU chose a woman to commit to, then YOU are in charge of protecting her from physical threats. If she isn't like modern women, would you protect her or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:07 PM
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I didn't dismiss, I just said it isn't the topic. We are talking about if there is a duty to protect YOUR woman bro. I'm sure you wouldn't wife a hoe so isn't it your responsibility to protect the woman YOU chose?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:00 PM
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Protect the good ones. Even if you believe they're too few.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:57 PM
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Dude, that story was debunked. The woman at Tate's house was cheating on her bf. She then lied about being forced to go to his house. He got investigate, she cried and confessed, end of story. People who still believe this WANT to hate Tate but can't logically defend their hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:56 PM
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Depends on how close I am to smashing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:53 PM
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Duty, responsibility, whatever word you wanna use. If you have committed to a woman, she rightfully expects that you protect her from physical threats. It is the most logical option, and the man agreed to be cuffed. That alone should be enough to call it a man's duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:51 PM
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Agreed, they gotta move out the way. The guys who stay out of the way are never a woman's first choice either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:45 PM
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Are you aware of the fact that women are treated more leniently by the law. Women have shorter sentences for the same crime as men. Look at the #METOO movement, literally a movement that got Bill Cosby locked up based on nothing but women’s words. No evidence was even required. Yeah men may be aggressors most of the time, but we are also the protectors most of the time too. Being over emotional often backfires on men, same is not the case fore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:35 AM
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I believe it is just how they are. Only way to avoid it is for the people in their lives to present options to these women. The reason so many women are so emotional is because they tend to get what they want by being emotional. Men are more incentivized to control their emotions because there are more negative outcomes for a man being emotionally unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:14 AM
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Emotion is the opposite of logic and everyone has emotion. But to claim that both sexes are equal in such matters is quantifiable BS. No disrespect but that’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:06 PM
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Are you saying women aren’t stubborn. A big reason men are better at business is because they are more willing to listen to their betters than women are. Women today can’t be told a damn thing. They see it as oppressive, it’s stupid. Every desirable guy realizes this. Women literally cannot handle the truth, they find it oppressive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:52 PM
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If that were the case, why are women the more frequent relationship killers. Men experience anger, and that makes them act out of pocket, but women experience every other and kill relationships with others (not just bf’s). You don’t hear stereotypes where men hate other men do you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:48 PM
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This is why you see lesbians questioning why men have such a hard time getting women. Women are seen as more genuine by default. When a man tries anything, it seems like he has an altering motive. Which is why men have to be amazing to get women. While women just have to be decent to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:45 PM
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Because both men and women see women’s intentions as more pure naturally than men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:43 PM
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The way I see it. If pms is a excuse for bad behavior. Then men’s desire to spread the dead is enough excuse too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:40 PM
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Aside for anger and aggression related emotions, how else do men react?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:38 PM
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Well you are plain wrong, on gender values logic more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:37 PM
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No I can, just testing my options lol. Give eke a minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:02 PM
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Y’all are the ones who express emotion in an illogical manner most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:01 PM
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That is NOT case and point. What more efficient way have men ever been shown?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:00 PM
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You ain’t gotta read these type of papers on men huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:58 PM
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He won’t engage because he doesn’t know how to. Women make so little sense that men will be at a loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:55 PM
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Holy crap, I don’t wanna read all that, can you condense it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:53 PM
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My perspective on such things is that the man is at fault. I have the Patrice O’Neal perspective on such topics. Because of the lack of accountability on women’s part, I choose to put it on men. No point in having fruitless expectations.😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:49 PM
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I agree with your point about emotions running high. But there is only one gender arguing about the lack of emotion in the other. I don’t think I have to speak further on the topic. But I will. Are you going to claim that it’s mostly men who are generally more emotional when it isn’t needed? With all honesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:45 PM
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Oh my bad for interpreting that wrong. I 100% agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:03 PM
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You checked if they were liberal sources, I gotta start doing that. Might convince some think headed people I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:01 PM
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No, women know what words mean. They are not animals. I’m saying women don’t hold meaning of words to the same significance that men do. If a dudes mad he won’t say he’s fine. He won’t engage or will say how he feels. Passive aggression is seen as a female trait by both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:48 PM
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Since the Karen meme is blowing up, I agree with the first part. But are you really gonna sit here and claim that women are not unnecessarily illogical frequently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:42 PM
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Idk about that. The way you worded this reply basically puts the full responsibility on men to figure out what women are saying, while we give women the blessing of speaking clear and concisely. That’s the part that men are frustrated with. We’d be fine with the whole thing if it wasn’t for this culture insisting that women are just as smart and capable as men. If that’s the case, why with the confusing communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:40 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:36 PM
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Big facts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:32 PM
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I actually have seen that. But in most cases, it's a man surrounded or raise by women who act like that. Like guys with all sisters, or single mother houses, or plain simpish men. Overall, passive aggression, even though there are men that do it, is a feminine action by the standards of both men and women. Both can come to a very good way of dealing with this through introspection, it just doesnt come naturally. I disagree, its incredibly obvious that women have a natural advantage when it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:57 AM
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That's just an "I'm a better person than you" way of avoiding the question
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:24 AM
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You're making generalizations and statements that are so vague and subjective that no meaningful information can be derived from them. You haven't given any examples of meaningless info. Are any of the examples I gave wrong or do you disagree from a purely emotional perspective? In case you were unaware, "most women=50% or more" I hope that makes the statement a little less vague for you. IDK how to address your issue with the "women are", I guess if I say "women are humans with vaginas", I'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:21 AM
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Most women have an enormous list of requirements for their mates. But the most common ones seen amongst most women are protection, provision(whether or no she can provide for herself), and genuine desire. These are all things that mostly men had to figure out. Women are terrible at explaining why they do what they do. That's why any man who seeks dating advise from women is a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:40 AM
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When discussing a topic that involve a large population, generalizing is the most effective way of getting the point across. I also never said things like "all women or all men", I said most. I notice a lot of people attempting to discuss inter-sexual dynamics issues with a "case by case" method. There isn't enough time in the world to consider every single individuals unique characteristics. For example, you can safely generalize that most men look for sex before a relationship. I said" most" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:37 AM
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I can tell you didn't bother reading lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:21 PM
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It's called generalizing, much like you did in this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 09:20 PM
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It's a difficult position for a man and takes practice to get around. The tough part is the fact that the "creep" label is born from a woman's subjective judgement of a man upon first meeting them. On top of that, women will share their opinions with other women, and women's opinions on men are often easily influenced by the opinions of others. So one girl might think you are creepy, tells her girlfriend who would have though you were fine, and now she thinks your creepy just cause her friend di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 02:48 PM
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You are very charming, have a nice day lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:45 PM
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When it comes to men selecting any woman, men in general put little to no thought in a woman's status, career, and money. The reason I posted this is because I believe women in general (your personal life and reddit women do not count towards the general western population) do not know or care to know what men select for in the women they meet. A HVM is a man desired by many women. The women themselves have designated him as high value. So even if you don't believe guys who exercise their many o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:30 PM
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lmao sure ok. You'll hear whatever you wanna hear tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:53 AM
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Wait sooo.... you guys realize women age right? We're humans, not the sex dolls you wish we were. What happens when that sweet, innocent 20-year-old turns 30? 40? You gonna stick around or be a cheater like 95% of men? You are obviously too biased to have a genuine discussion about the topic lmao. Yes we realize women age, she ain't gotta be young to keep her but when it comes to picking her up, yeah she gotta be young cause you are competing with young women lol. Young women are OBJECTIVELY mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:38 AM
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No I know for a fact men can love older women, because I have been with my partner for many years and I’m almost 40 Your subjective experience doesn't speak for all men. Many years means how many years exactly? Are you saying that the new 40yo you is more attractive visually 20yo you? But my husband does not think youth is the top priority, in fact he values my intellect and our shared interests Lol what kind of evidence is that. Any husband would say that to avoid arguments and confrontation. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:29 AM
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YOU were the one who said women lose their value at 30 (you even lowered that to 25 in one comment here!). And YOU were the one who said that the only thing women can offer men was youth and looks, and that men care about nothing else - that they don’t care about education or intelligence or financial contributions. Isn’t that the whole point of your post? No I said that youth and beauty matters VASTLY more to men than education, career, and money. SINGLE women lose their value at 30. Age 25 is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:05 PM
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I say it's both honestly. 60% laws and structure. 40% peoples attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:29 PM
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Lol jeez I can see where your mindset is, you're emotions towards this lead you to paint the man in a very unfair light. So has the woman provided nothing worth investing in in your example? You think committed women immediately lose value once they hit the big 30? What about kids, what about time spent together? If he chose her there's got to be a reason he didn't do her like the other women right? The way you set up this less than generous example would have you think this man married the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 08:39 PM
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Ikr, society is so male supremacy oriented that men don't get a say in whether a fetus gets to live or die. We got the world by the balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:52 PM
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You sure it's not just the fact that most women don't want to do those jobs? I don't think mailmen, garbage men, and sewage men care too much about gatekeeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:42 PM
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Near their own age or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:30 PM
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I had an example addressing it when I talked about flat screens being sold for 50k. People consider you to have been fooled if the salesman sell you a car for way more than it's worth. Sure people can have an asking price, but once again, an average flat screen isn't worth 50k. People will call you insane if you have that as an asking price.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:29 PM
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What about the women who want to become mothers and have children? You see a lot of women electing to have kids in their late 30's. The mainstream even encourages it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:05 PM
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Men don't look for women who actively try to emasculate men and get off on it lol. What is so complicated about that? Women who get defeminized by men dump they asses. You never hear men saying dumb shit like "these women are threatened my us." They dump those men because they are useless to the women. Take that concept an switch things around. We don't like women you describe because they are useless to us. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 02:02 PM
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HVM is just the top 20% of men in a general sense, simple as that. Other may argue top 10% but whichever it is, it's a small minority of men. The foundation of a man relationship with a woman is beauty, health, accessibility, and attitude. Sure there is more to it but those are the major "make or break" aspects men in a general sense agree on. Everything else is subjective to the man. A woman could go through major financial loses and other hardships but so long as the foundation holds, the hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:52 AM
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Do you believe the vast majority of HVM behave like Trump or like Gates? I would argue Trump because he's a man who has always known his value to women. Meanwhile, Gates was always a geek on the inside even though he was successful. Same with Bazos. I see why women would want men to have the Gates attitude, less competition for them, less options for the Gates man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:36 AM
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We just don't want the contest. Bigger smaller doesn't matter. The real question is, why do you insist so badly on growing a dick just to measure it against mine? Not saying you can't have success around men, but why must you compare success, because it's not men doing it. I thought it was supposed to be a partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:30 AM
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That is not how dealers work, you broke character into modern woman lol. The dealer needs to sell the vehicle, he's not like "fine somebody else will idc." Women are basically like "cash up front and I MIGHT sell you the vehicle" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:20 AM
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Men naturally want younger women because they are objectively the hottest. They also birth the healthiest babies with the least amount of medical complications. Just those things alone blow older women out of the water. Men don't feel bad about this because every older woman has been the hot 20yo at some point but missed their shot, usually because they were focused on career or just never made a choice and enjoyed their many options thinking they would remain forever. And honestly in these grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:09 AM
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The ones considered to be HVM by women. You know, the guy every single woman competes for. The guy who can have a rotation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:56 AM
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Lol no argument from me. Shouldn't be getting married in the first place. Especially when you have so much to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:55 AM
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You can see women's solipsism on full display just by cruising this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:54 AM
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Huh? One of the most common places to meet a spouse is at college or work! So? Just because people meet at the job/school more often doesn't mean the man was looking exclusively for a woman with a certain major. Those women were just closer to the man everyday when compared to the waitress at Denny's. Also what's with women thinking their subjective experience speaks to the general population of women? I'm glad you can make it work, but what if we put 1000 different women in your position with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:51 AM
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Where in the hell did women get this idea that we are intimidated by your success? Men already have to be challenged by the whole world. Why would any man want to come home and have a dick measuring contest with the person that's supposed to be their partner. Women use the intimidation thing as cope for why dudes aren't attracted to their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:44 AM
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No, why you a cop?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:41 AM
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Most women are after their careers straight outta college, where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:39 AM
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Who said he plans on dumping them. A man wouldn't marry a woman he "plans" on dumping. Men know what divorce courts do to them. But young women would 100% get with an older dude if he's successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:37 AM
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Well you have to look at how most women define educated. Most women would put themselves in that category just cause they have diplomas. A diploma is quite common so yeah I'd say they view themselves that way. They'd also say they'd rather die alone than settle for an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:35 AM
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What you would do personally speaks nothing to the general population. You may be correct about women having no reason to seek a breadwinner when they are fully capable of it. I even mentioned that it made no logical sense in the OP. But read through the thread, there are many more examples of women who want a man whos equal or preferable more financially set.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:33 AM
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Y'all just summon conflict outta thin air don't ya lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:27 AM
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The few men who make enough have the same mind set, they just have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:25 AM
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You are speaking for yourself. I think education, career, and class mean a lot. If you're gonna accuse me of speaking subjectively, I'd avoid leading the next sentence with "I think." It's generally middle to upper class men bringing in women from foreign countries and marrying them. Sure a lot of them don't work out but the same can be said about marriage in general. You're entire assumption of their behavior can be said about most women considering the vast majority overestimate themselves and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:22 AM
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If you want a rotation of women so none are ever over the age of 25 you are not high value, lol. I would rather be single than get with a guy just to get dumped at 25, what a waste of time. Famous people are obviously a whole different ball game, people will put up with more shit just to be able to claim they were with someone famous. Lmao, no if most women want you, you are high value, plain and simple. What you want and what you would do speaks nothing of the general population of women. The f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:15 PM
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How is it a sham institution?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:01 PM
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So are women willing to step up and do the jobs men do. Like sewage maintenance, garbage disposal, anything involving heavy lifting. Stop joking, women would be hopelessly lost without us. Nature would overtake civilization one more without all men lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:59 PM
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I'm baffled at women's ability to turn subjects with general topics into something about them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:49 PM
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I find it a bit hard to believe but to each their own. I'm gonna stop talking about you and focus on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:47 PM
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How many woman actually do that. Cause the vast majority of women focus on career first then family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:45 PM
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Simp is a man who will do things for women in general at a cost to himself with little benefit. It's not that guys don't like it, it's just idiotic from a logical POV. It is definitely red-pill, it was red pill advocates who were using the term way before it got popular. Men might marry around their education level sure, but that's a matter of proximity. The man wasn't looking for the girl with the diploma, she was just the closest and he decide he was ok with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:44 PM
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You took it too far. When it comes to a women he may have kids with, a man will want the younger women, less chance for pregnancy complications. If he has investment in her, he won't leave her. But HVM have the option to go down the Leonardo DiCaprio path and have a rotation of women. Also a HVM who takes good care of himself can keep getting young women in his 50's. We can do it if we play our cards right, women can't. 30yo single women can't make the demands they used to when they were 20 caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:40 PM
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I believe that guy applies as the insecure loser that was spoken about earlier. It could also be a cultural thing. I have Indian friends in that same situation. Their parents provide for school and all but in return they gotta get a man or woman the parents approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:33 PM
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Plenty of women will try it, few can make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:27 PM
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Oh thats nice, most women aren't and you sound like em lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:26 PM
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Every dude need a bit of reluctantly_red in them. Maybe add a bit of suger lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:25 PM
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Yet it's always the successful women who ask where all the good men went.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:24 PM
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A lot of women I know say the same, "Oh the intangibles matter more to me." Their actions tend not to match their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:23 PM
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If you can do it, more power to ya. That's pretty tough to do for the vast majority of women especially one who want to be good mothers. If you can pull it off that makes you and your friends an exception. Exceptions don't invalidate the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:21 PM
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Idk, red pill is picking up. Look at how fast terms like simp caught on. It may be more modern than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:19 PM
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IDK about that, there are way too many factor that go into that. A dude will get with a woman because she is close, not cause of her diploma. Most people get married to those who they spend the most time with. (In this case co-workers) but I don't believe these dudes do it cause they care about that diploma. Sure that diploma gets women closer to high earning dudes but the hot secretary at the front is in the same running. I might work with Hannah in the lab but I walk by Stacy every morning. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:18 PM
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And a lot of those relationships don't work out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:09 PM
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Alright, if it bring you happiness then I got no complaints
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:08 PM
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How come you didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:07 PM
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That's a good example actually, I find myself agreeing with you there. Men do indeed have a limit to how low they will go. But the things that determine where she is on a man's scale don't include her diploma. Although, I would say women's issue today is their self categorization. You have women who are 7's and lower ranking themselves as 10's. And because they think they are 10's, they won't look at that 7 dude who is actually at her level. Since women don't respect men's opinion on their appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:06 PM
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I used mine as an example of why it's a bad idea to use anecdotal evidence. Your grandpa and my uncles opinions hold the same weight since they are both personal experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:00 PM
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Great so you have something relevant to the topic or you want to keep patting yourself on the back since?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:58 PM
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You say that but money is a "make or break" thing for women. He can be wonderful but if he doesn't earn enough, that could kill his chances. Same isn't true for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:55 PM
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Lets keep anecdotes out of it. I'm a man and my preference in women didn't change cause I hopped tax brackets. I still wanted em young, hot, and tolerable to be around. Difference is I actually had more options one I hopped. Could you clarify what those articles are supposed to convince me of cause one talked about how fragile the family is and another showed that top earner in the same class have worse marriages. I understand that there's an education gap but is it affecting women's dating pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:52 PM
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At least the red pill takes women wants into consideration. Which is more than I can say for feminism. This "you can have it all" attitude is failing you women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:42 PM
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Your reality /= The reality Your truth /= The Truth You thinking you're high value /= Men thinking your high value "Your reality" is irrelevant to the topic. You don't have to try to convince me HVM want to keep you, I didn't believe that from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:33 PM
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I said not your grandpa smh. I don't care to talk about you grandpa, his experience doesn't speak for all men he's a boomer for Christ sake. If you threw him back to age 20 today he'd be on my side lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:28 PM
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OMFG you know what I'm saying. Stop with the technical bs. A man can raise a woman to prominence and it's seen as normal. A woman won't even look a lower mans way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:26 PM
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Oh snap, dang fellas she got us. Her personal experience trumps all. She lives the life of every woman ever, can't compete with that point. Why didn't I think to use my personal experience to describe a general population. Tsk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:19 PM
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lmao, yeah no not to a HVM you ain't. Cause he has more options of pretty women that you do of HVM. You bring the same things to the table any other chick brings. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:15 PM
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You are right about keeping it to yourself, idek why she would say that. Also she posted a very thot-like photo on instagram lol. Well Steph did but to us me, it's thottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:11 PM
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Typo I meant shouldn't, but you knew that lmao. But overall yeah you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:08 PM
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you are still incorrect as statistics show educated women are the most likely to get married You sure about that? https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/marriage-rates-decline-reason-economically-attractive-men-jobs-income-a9098956.html Even logically that doesn't make sense since High earning women have less options. You think women are more successful with less options. Nah its a competitive market for these HVM. Some women HAVE to lose, unless high earners are more ok with being side…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:06 PM
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Um, ok good for you. Never said women shouldn't level up, just that you should view you bag as something men should care about. But y'all females hear what you wanna hear tbh lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:53 PM
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If you don't mind me asking. What qualities do women like you possess that HVM would be interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:49 PM
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Ayesha thotting it up saying she wants attention from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:45 PM
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Ughh your half right. We aren't threatened, feminism really messed up y'alls perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:43 PM
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I didn't move the posts at all. I said Hollywood, managers, CEO, artists, lawyers all make Hollywood function. I never said actors specifically actors alone. Wow no woman considers 6 figures a HVM. You are trippin. Women out here are saying that's the minimum. That's the top 10% of men. If that's not high value, you chicks have zero appreciation for what men do to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:41 PM
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Your like the hulk bruh. That other personality that comes out when you least expect it lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:37 PM
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Who has a better chance between the two though? You know what the answer is quit cappin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:35 PM
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I never once brought men's dangalang into this. But since you did I'll say this. You won't be wifed up if you can't get his pp hard anyway lmao. You can be a fantastic, successful woman but if the pp ain't with it. YOU ARE OUT! LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:34 PM
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Very true, but one again, throw that pretty low earner in the same proximity, she poses as a decent threat in taking that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:31 PM
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Ugh the feminist. Why would men care about a pot o gold we won't get a piece of? I'm okay with you having the bar really high, but when you realize you ain't getting what you want, blame your overestimation of yourself and unwillingness to meet men's standards. You are not the prize since you require more from us than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:29 PM
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She has to be that level to get close to that man, to be in his proximity. Not to get picked by that man, cause he ain't considering that too hard. If I took the pretty cashier and put her in the same proximity, you be competing with her just cause he like the restaurant she works at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:25 PM
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In the situation of fat MIT grad vs pretty cashier we all know what any man would choose. The answer to that question speaks to the fact that men don't consider women's achievements when it comes to choosing a gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:22 PM
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First off quote me, never told women what to do. Second, no the same doesn't apply in reverse because men and women are not the same nor are they treated the same. Women like masculinity and men like femininity. Why would the rules be the same if we have completely different goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:19 PM
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I'm actually baffled at how much women think men care about this stuff. It is not classist TO MEN!!! That's the perspective of a woman. Kings will take a peasant and make her a queen. What I've been saying has been true since the dawn of humanity. We don't look for the perfect girl, we look for one we like enough. We weigh the negatives and positives, "Are her good qualities good enough for me to tolerate her bad one." We are not nearly as complicated as you think, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:16 PM
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No any man with a choice and is aware of his value wants young women. 30's will NEVER be prefered over early 20's and thats a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:11 PM
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What do you mean by class. People on here have their own definitions nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:09 PM
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Yup, we are incredibly simple creatures
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:06 PM
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Lmao wtf are you talking about. I never even said "all women." You arguing with a dude who ain't even here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:04 PM
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If you ask an unhappy married man (not saying it your grandpa) if he loves his wife, he'll say yes. Your grandpa has a multitude of reasons to say that. Plus by telling me he barley can work a smartphone, it tells me he isn't in sync with the way the dating market is. My grandpa and uncles tell me not to trust these hoes so ig those anecdotal example don't mean too much huh. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:59 PM
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I've noticed that women are trying HARD to sidestep this question. I think it's because this question exposes the fact that women's degrees don't help at all when it comes to getting a man. That degree is a cherry on the sundae. I'll still eat that sundae, cherry or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:55 PM
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The woman I work at the office with is closer to me than the cashier at McDonalds. I see her everyday, I get the chance to engage with her more often. I'm not picking her because of what she did, it's because she's close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:51 PM
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You're doing everything you can to avoid answering the question lol. The simple fact that a man is willing to date several levels lower than himself for the sake of looks and personality proves my point. To address your example, yes he would pick the zoo woman but not because she's a zoo coordinator. It's cause she NOT the bitchy woman. But if you switched the zoo coordinator with the cashier, you know what the HVM would pick. You don't realistically want to know how far down the ladder a man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:48 PM
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Oh well thats fine. As long as men aren't getting blamed for the difficulties women are having idgaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:32 PM
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Men on PPD: Feel free to do whatever you want, just understand that there are consequences to the choices you make. If you work on your career till you're 30 then decide you want a man, you'll have a hard time finding the guy you want since we don't care about your career and you aren't as young as these other women. Women: how dare men require anything of us. You should accept a successful woman like me. I think I'm high value therefore I am and any man that doesn't agree is an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:30 PM
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Read the thread, they so are lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:23 PM
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Kings can turn any woman they want into queens. So even if she is lowborn, he'll wife her up if he likes her enough. Statements like these are exactly why I said women don't know what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:21 PM
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I have never once in this whole thread told women what to do. Do whatever you want, but live with the consequences. If you wanna aim for the top men, then its a rough competition. HVM are few and if that's all you aim for, of course the pool of men will be smaller, that's common sense. Yes, we value women for more than looks, but looks is number 1. You can be hot with a degree and still be dumb. We want a woman who's cooperative, women at our level tend to want to compete and men don't want that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:19 PM
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So you want a man to please you, but don't care about pleasing him. Lol ok good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:14 PM
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You don't care what men want, yet you would like a high value man? Ok good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:06 PM
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But if you ladies get in the business of trying to get men, you will have no choice but to arouse us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:05 PM
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Holy shit how many times I gotta say it. Your success isn't something that can make or break you. No HVM will look at a fat woman and go "Ehh i dont like how big she is but at least she's got a PHD"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:03 PM
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You side stepped the point. If a HVM had that option, he would choose the cashier. Even if he's in an ivy league school, he's not choosing women based on their major. He's choosing based on looks, personality, and accessibility. This thread chooses to take my hyperbolic example literally in order to sidestep the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:01 PM
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Women definitely care about that stuff, no doubt. Think of it like this, if Ms. Success was fat and Ms. Cashier wasn't, Ms. Cashier has a better shot at getting that man. Hell even if Ms. Success as mean and the cashier wasn't Ms. Success would be up shit creek cause a HVM doesn't give a crap about her degree or 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:54 PM
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When did I say any of that. I just said it doesn't improve your chances of getting the guy you want. If Ms. Success is fat or mean or both, that degree does nothing to help her with Mr. Right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:50 PM
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I definitely believe it happens often
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:44 PM
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People will downvote for the pettiest things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:43 PM
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Rich men do wife up women with no job tho. Cashier can be more attractive than Ms. Success if she isn't fat, mean, and wants the guy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:41 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:40 PM
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Most women don't know what it takes to qualify for the right guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:38 PM
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See look, it's good that you make music and all. But you would be immediately kicked out of the running if you were fat and had the "I don't need no man" attitude. Nobody thinks that spending 6 years in med school will give them a boyfriend. They may not be going for specifically a bf. But the definitely thing it will help in getting one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:29 PM
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More like it's not a make or break aspect that will save a women if she's lacking elsewhere. Kinda like how ugly men will have a boost if they are rich. Women in the same situation don't get a boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:24 PM
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If you put the ivy league grad up with cashier and the grad is fat, mean, and thinks her degree entitles her to a hvm and the cashier is the opposite, who do you think that guy would choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:18 PM
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That data in that article speaks mostly to the 1980's. Our ideals as a society has changed since then. While you're husband may be an exception, that doesn't make the rule invalid. If you have a different article with current data I'll give it a gander. Otherwise we will have to agree to disagree. I simply don't see how someone who is willing to marry down would care about the financial success his partner if he's already expected for the most part to have more money than his partner. Men want l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:06 PM
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Are you speaking for other women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:34 PM
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The pattern usually goes, woman wants success, woman spends years working towards success, woman achieves success before 30yo, woman now wants children and husband, woman can't find man good enough, woman is miserable despite her success. You may disagree but its a fact that women today are more miserable then they've been in years, yet they are more successful than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:33 PM
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Actors are not equivalent to doctors, lawyers, investment bankers etc which is what women mean when they say "HVM". And the world of UMC educated career people is completely different from Hollywood. So according to you, none of those things you listed exist in Hollywood? Actors don't have doctors, lawyers, managers? You should probably rethink that line of logic. Also "6 figure salary" tells me nothing about the class and education of your mentors. Even plumbers can make 6 figures after being i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:29 PM
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Poor women are more likely to divorce. Uneducated women are more likely to divorce. Good lord... Show me that study then, cause I call horse droppings. When I said "date down" I meant the literal sense but even then. Women do not fuck down that is absolutely false. She will fuck a man who's poorer than her but she doesn't view it that way, because most likely that guy is a CHAD. He's hotter than most men and compensates for his lack of fund with other traits, that's fucking up for her. Because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:12 PM
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I love how you asked me a question and then answered it yourself lol. I currently have and had several 6 figure mentors in my time and most of them are with women who have no job. Also, Hollywood is a collection of the worlds most successful people who tend to date other successful people. It's not real life for average folk but for successful people, it is. Its the perfect sample group to test these theories of "successful couples succeeding because they are both successful."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:58 PM
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“Dominant population” doesn’t mean much when you’re talking about high value males. It does when the vast majority of women all aim for the same small group of men. Doctors marry doctors more than their secretaries. You’ve noticed several people saying the same thing in comments below. Doctors may marry doctors more often than secretaries, but what about nurses lol? Lemme ask you this. Would a doctor turn down that pretty, well mannered secretary just because she was a secretary? My entire point…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:49 PM
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Good thing reddit isn't reflective of real life then huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:41 PM
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Women don't study or work to impress men by the way. Then why do so many women use their success as a reason they deserve a high value guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:40 PM
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If that's how you view most men then the problem isn't how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:37 PM
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Nope, some culture maybe but not the dominant population. A King can make any woman a queen. A queen won't look at anyone who isn't already a king. Once again, why would a man care about a pot o gold he isn't likely to get a piece of?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:34 PM
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Those women are generally not just sitting on their asses, they are organizing clubs, participating in PTAs and HOAs, volunteering and running side gigs. A woman who works at McDonald's has demonstrated that she is not a self-starter and will likely get fat on your couch. Jeez, way to throw young women under the bus there. So all cashiers are bums to you huh. It's not like successful people ever had a crappy job in their lives. Even average happy people have had small beginnings. Sure they get p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:31 PM
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That's nice. What is the main goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:08 PM
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It's funny how you have to take things there. The high value dude think the same way, you can be educated for yourself, but it doesn't do anything for us men so we don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:06 PM
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No. Lol, than why would your anecdotal example hold any weight to me? Because I would have to make myself miserable and stop doing the things I love only to find a partner. So what's the point of being in a relationship if I can't be happy? What? First off, nobody said you gotta go full traditional to get a man. Dude's ain't out here asking you to churn butter lol. You're gonna have to explain that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:03 PM
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But high value men are not marrying McDonald's cashiers. They are marrying fellow doctors and lawyers. And from those doctors and lawyers, they select the most attractive ones. Are you sure, plenty of successful men marry women who aren't working at all. You gotta take into account that if I marry the McDonalds cashier, she ain't gotta keep being the McDonalds cashier anymore. No, lady Dr. Law is not competing with Ms. Cashier because Ms. Cashier gets pumped and dumped at 31 You say that as thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:54 PM
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That's all well and good for your friends. But just cause you came up with exceptions, doesn't mean the rule doesn't apply. Does the fact that I have non traditional female friends who complain to me about their lack of success in the dating game change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:44 PM
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Good thing reddit isn't representative of real life. The High value dudes don't care either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:38 PM
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I see where your coming from. But aren't the women who are increasing their finances also shrinking their options of available men too? Those HVM are in demand because they are rare. Since they are in high demand, that means they have options. The first thing a man looks for and cares about is looks, followed by attitude, then accessibility. Those are all traits that a woman who works as a McDonalds cashier can possess. So Ms. Success is still competing evenly with Ms. Cashier. So are her chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:36 PM
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Most men don't care about the poor, uneducated part. We don't want lazy women though. It's fine for women to want those things in a man, np. A rich man would be willing to get with a McDonalds cashier so long as she fulfills his requirements. Usually those are that she's kind, healthy, and willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:26 PM
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I'm not too sure about that. The mindset you describe is incentivized by the environment and a lot of women who think this way won't realize its unhealthy until they are no longer desirable. Not only that but younger women are encouraged to make these mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:22 PM
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Yeah alright good talk you haven’t changed my view but thank for giving your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:57 PM
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Never said men don’t cheat, we definitely do. You never answered my question, funny that. And as for the taken women I slept with, notice how I never said I knew they were taken at the time. Hindsight is 20/20 I found out after the deed was done. And you have no solution to any issues so why bother is who’s you sound when describing that a person will cheat if they want to. “Why bother wearing a vest, he’s gonna shoot the whole clip at you anyway.” Tell me, in you honest opinion, between the two…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:41 PM
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I think anything that takes even a tiny bit of control from women is frowned upon. Not just the phone thing, even just guy learning to get better with women inspires the same kind of wrath.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:23 PM
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You can tell all those people to screw off. And women can say the same to me. Difference is I’d ask for consent first and I have a valid reason to do so. People don’t like when cops search stuff until they find something that could have possibly affected everyone else. Not saying cops are always right but there definitely are good cases for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:18 PM
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Did you even read the OP. Because I said forcing anyone to do anything is abuse. It’s not a set amount btw, it’s until she earns my trust. Trust is something to be earned. Ik a lot of women think they should be trusted off the bat because of what they have between their legs but that isn’t how the world works. You subconsciously assess everyone you socialize with to see if they are worth hanging out with, dating, and trusting. However long it take to earn a guys trust is up to him, it varies. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:14 PM
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I’ll check it out but that title leads me to believe that it’s abusive and I really don’t see how it’s abuse if she agrees to in from the beginning. It’s like a girl asking you to choke her hard in the sack then calling the cops because you did what she said. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:49 PM
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I understand that you don’t care what people do, but I’m interested in why. If you don’t care about that why are you replying to me. My OP is about trying to see why it’s looked down upon to go through her phone. If none of that interest you then fine. You care that the car work, I care about how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:38 PM
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You do the check because she hasn’t earned your trust yet. It’s a form of vetting. If I trust her, it will be because Ik she’s comfortable with giving me access to her phone. It definitely proves she’s not a typical girl who vehemently guards her phone. You have it in your head that me having access automatically makes me a tyrant and that’s completely unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:35 PM
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Lol the tracking dude is nothing like me, that’s a completely unfair comparison, I just wanna know who you recently texted. He wants to know where u are every second of the day. Lemme ask you, do you think insecurity is a bad thing all together. I mean you lock your doors when you feel insecure about your home. You work out when your insecure about your body. And you work to achieve great things when your insecure about you current circumstances. Btw overly strict parents create sneaky kids, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:27 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:09 PM
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Well first off you have to want to. The girls on here went crazy cause they think I’m forcing something on them. I wouldn’t make you do a thing, I just wouldn’t date you. You not agreeing to it is a great way to determine who is and isn’t worth dating to me. If she values her phone more than me then it’s been a pleasure doing business lol. And the reason I brought up sex was to point out the fact that most women are willing to spread their private for you but would rather die than unlock their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:03 PM
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I mean technically you are, even you played the same field as me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:54 PM
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Yeah, intersexual dynamics is an interesting concept. What‘a funny is how little people really know about it. Btw dating someone and being together with them are two different stages of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:50 PM
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Great, I personally think it’s a great way to see how much you girl values you. If she picks her phone over you it’s quite telling in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:47 PM
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Tell me, do you believe trust is something to just be given or is it something to be earned? “If you don’t trust her, why are you with her?” Wow really😑Do you just blindly trust people simply because you are attracted to them? Should I trust girls in my class just because I would consider dating them? Should I trust the girl at the bar just because I think she’s drop-dead gorgeous?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:45 PM
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Do only strangers ask you out or something? Are you not familiar with any guys at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:39 PM
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Yes I apply it to my self. And it’s not scheduled like that. You just do it until you feel she’s earned your trust. Her agreeing to do it is already a big step since so many women are against the idea. Different guys have different trust thresholds and the frequency at which they’d look are varied. But that doesn’t matter because it’s women who guard their phone so ferociously. Explain to me how what I said was abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:38 PM
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Going through her phone more often then not is just a simple “hey babe lemme see your phone real quick” then I sit next to her, scroll through her recents and get on with my day. Only search if your suspicious is justified of course. She has to earn my trust, because trust you’ve earned worth more that when it’s just given to you. Nobody does home paternity test and men get shamed endlessly for even suggesting such a thing. We live in an age where women can get dick just as easily as when you or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:33 PM
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Dating is the process of familiarizing yourself with someone. No matter who it is you date they become less of a stranger as you date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:18 PM
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But did u tell the person on sight that you would date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:14 PM
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Thx for clarifying. Your right, what your friend goes through isn’t my business. But the road gets slippery when you talk to your girls about me. What your ex did wrong was he forced you to do all that stuff. I 100% agree that it’s abusive. But that isn’t what I’m saying. Is it still abusive if I let a girl who’s interested in me know that I don’t date girls who keep their phones from me? It puts them in a spot when the have to decide what they want more, phone or me. And when I say I want acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:11 PM
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Would you ladies ever give men that luxury? No you wouldn’t so why do you think you deserve it. It called “the game” and whether you love or hate it we all have to play it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:02 PM
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Persona’s my favorite jrpg series but that’s besides the point. How am I a shitty bf for wanting to make sure my girl stays loyal. Ik you wanna take my OP to the extreme when you say I deprive her of privacy but when I said access to he phone, I didn’t mean control. A simple “hey babe, lemme see your phone real quick. Then I sit right next to her and look at her recent snaps, emails, and calls/texts. It’d be like a drug test, if she’s consistently passing then theirs no point to check all the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:59 PM
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You assess everyone. Even people you know. I’m sure you don’t just turn down strangers, you’ve turned down guys you know to because (through subconscious assessment) you determined they weren’t right for you. Any man who’s been in the friend zone knows what I mean and so do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:48 PM
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Alright, but right off the bat you’ve framed yourself to be the issue here. You’ve gone with the “she didn’t do anything wrong, it’s just my mind getting the wrong idea.” You completely threw out the idea that you weren’t wrong, you won’t even entertain the possibility that you may be on to something. A man’s greatest biological fear is being cuckholded. It’s up there next to never getting laid. Our male instincts are specifically tuned to sniffing such things out. Call it our male intuition. Fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:45 PM
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Lol ok, tell me how does one know if their partner won’t cheat. Are clairvoyant or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:34 PM
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Well if she’s done nothing to earn my trust her confidence in letting me see her phone would definitely boost my trust in her and give me a reason to trust her. I’m surprised at how many people think trust should just be blindly given.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:33 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that basic human interaction include many different things INCLUDING MANIPULATION lol. It’s not cynicism, it’s logic. I’m actually pretty optimistic, just not foolishly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:31 PM
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Don’t you think that as her bf I should be the first to know if she’s having mental issues or struggling to get pregnant. Did it occur to you that trust isn’t something to be given blindly but that it’s should be something to earn. And why is it bad to be insecure. People have been lead to do great thing due to their insecurities. I hit the gym and got in shape cause I was insecure about being skinny. Kanye got famous because he was insecure about living in poverty and the livelihood of his mom.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:28 PM
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What would be the point of a test if I told you it was a test? That’s like handing your students the answer key along with their exam. Surprisingly girls will abide by your standards if they like you enough to do so. If she moped out on you just cause you want to see her phone. She must not have liked you that much in which case, you shouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:19 PM
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What’s the difference between a test and an assessment? What did you use to decide they weren’t dating material for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:15 PM
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Are you sure about that. Tell me, in the event that you partner was hiding something from you, what would be the most effective tool to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:15 PM
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Ummm that’s why I rubbed it in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:13 PM
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Access doesn’t equal rummage. But hey man that’s cool. I only specifically mention the phone because it’s the most common and effective too for infidelity. Aside from the phone there are very few ways to catcher her being funky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:12 PM
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If he’s that suspicious that he looks at your reddit then it’s time for a talk lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:10 PM
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That extremely common
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:09 PM
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Well you are taking it to the extreme. When I say access I don’t mean control. And one doesn’t ask for access unless it’s a warranted suspicion. Just like the example you gave. And if your partner was cheating, what would talking for, they’d obviously lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:08 PM
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What would your wife want to hide from you? I feel like you know where I’m going with this but I can’t think of anything else and all people on this post want is blind trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:05 PM
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Not a very great relationship if your too scared to share your personal thoughts with someone you already spend every waking moment around. But we both know that’s probably not the reason you won’t give him access.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:02 PM
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What would be the most likely tool my partner would use to cheat on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:00 PM
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I didn’t demand a thing. I would establish from the beginning that I wouldn’t date her unless she gave me access. Also, a large chunk of human interaction is manipulation. A baby cries to get you to feed and carry it. You manipulate you superiors at work when you ask for a raise. Your girlfriend manipulates you when she wants something from you and sleeps with you to increase her chances of getting the answer she wants. Not all manipulation is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:58 PM
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Why wouldn’t you want me to see that stuff is my question? Cause you could just let me skim through your phone then rub it in my face afterwards and be done with it. Why do you feel the way you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:54 PM
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It would be treated like color code drug testing. The people who show more consistent negative results for drug use get called in less frequently because they’ve shown they aren’t doing drugs by consistently passing. If that person was going to cheat anyway, why on earth would I make it easy for them. If someone wants to rob my house, should I just leave the door unlocked anyway since their gonna try to break in. No that would be dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:52 PM
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Basically what he said. Subconscious assessment of character. You do it whenever you turn a guy down when he asks you out. You determine his character isn’t the type you’d want to date. People do the same thing with trust. You wouldn’t trust a homeless man in a dark ally would you? That cause he didn’t pass your “test”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:48 PM
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Lol that’s hilarious. Hopefully your bf has a sense of humor about these things lol. Plus I don’t think he’d be looking for that because I assure you he’s searched up weirder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:45 PM
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Thank you. I’m gonna use this as a proper explanation for what I mean by testing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:39 PM
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What can be more embarrassing than what he already knows about you. Are you afraid to be wired in front of your man or is it something you know for a fact would upset him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:37 PM
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No we would pass the test then rub it in your face for not trusting us haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:35 PM
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So what is your reason for wanting to conceal that stuff from somebody you let smash you? You already showed that person your actual privates so what other privates are worth more secrecy than that. Do you every ask yourself why you feel the way you do about certain things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:34 PM
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Don’t care what porn men watch, so long as it ain’t kiddie porn. My point is that we assume men are hiding something. Why don’t we feel the same about girls and their over defensiveness of their phones?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:28 PM
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Ok, I enjoy my privacy too. Access to you phone doesn’t mean I’m looking at you conversations from 10 years ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:25 PM
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I’m arguing that you do test people. It’s all subconscious. What that person shows you is enough for you to decide they are right for the job. Like an interview. Albeit more enjoyable in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:23 PM
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What you hiding lol. You’d do it for someone if you liked them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:21 PM
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Yeah, your right🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:16 PM
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I disagree with you there. You have to earn trust from even your parents at one point. Everyone just has different was of testing someone’s trustworthiness. No one just trust somebody for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:15 PM
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Yeah I’m ok with the reverse. In general men just don’t care and will throw you their phone. Not saying there aren’t defensive men but that most men don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:13 PM
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Can I ask what it is you do to determine the trustworthiness of these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:11 PM
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Why does it matter what she sees. Are you ashamed of what you keep on your phone???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:10 PM
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Do you think trust is something to just be given or earned? Benefit of doubt is not trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:09 PM
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You’re taking it to the extreme for no reason. When did access to your phone become watching your every move and thought policing? What kinda things would you wanna keep private from your man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:07 PM
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Can I get an example of a conversation with a friend that you would want to keep private from your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:05 PM
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I’m not saying you don’t have a right. But why is it frowned upon when I require my girl to allow me to look at her phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 05:02 PM
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When was I appointed in a position of authority that entails speaking on the begalf of women? There is no neglect since there is no specific curriculum that I have to go by. Writing my free mind does not have to suit your categories of intellectual fulfillment. Nope I just expected you to respond to the comment, not give me pointless reasons on why you shouldn’t have to respond. This is a debate sub after all. If you didn’t wanna respond to a specific point why bother saying anything at all? You…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:49 PM
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Calling out what, exactly? Women like masculine men that are being civilized and educated, as Jordan Petersen puts it. Have all the men lived in a bubble to not observe girls go for "cool guys", men go for "pretty girls". As a preachool teacher, I see it happening even in toddlers, mind blowing on what planet these people live. It’s easy to see what women like but I notice how you neglect to mention how women would never admit that liking the cool guy can often lead them to be attracted to bad m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:03 PM
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Yes and like men’s deception, it should be called out. Men calling it out is just a part of the game to tip the balance in men’s favor since doing so would de-platforms women from the moral pedestal they’ve built. It’s also no different from what women already do. Once women lose that moral pedestal, they lose the social authority they have over matters such as relationships. Also women should stop expecting men to treat them with respect just cause they should treat their moms and sisters with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:59 PM
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This right here. End of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:15 AM
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But we are brought up to believe women aren’t deceptive in what they do and that they should be treated special. Redpill does indeed tell men to look at themselves. It kills two birds with one stone, watch for women’s deceptive behavior and improve yourself as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:01 AM
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Yeah, you get all of the normal benefits of having a girlfriend. Redpill gives you the knowledge to see through a women’s deceptive tactics. You are just harder to deceive as a redpill man. Or you could indeed just decide it’s not worth the hassle based on what you know about female nature. There is indeed a point to having a girlfriend. The real question is whether or not it’s worth it to have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:27 AM
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My bad on that then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:43 PM
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Nothing INHERENTLY wrong. You most certainly should be held accountable for what you do with it. Gold diggers should be held accountable for their manipulative ways even tho it stems from hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:32 PM
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Love our talks🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:35 PM
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Didn’t address the rest of what I said there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:01 PM
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Lol no you didn’t. You just said it depends on the guy. So do you have no idea what you yourself are capable of bringing to the relationship, it’s all for the guy to decide?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:22 PM
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There’s nothing inherently wrong with hypergamy. It just that society takes no steps to hold women accountable for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:16 PM
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That’s just an excuse to not answer the question. Once again, women absolve themselves of any responsibility and shove it off to the men. How am I as a man supposed to treat you like your special if you ladies don’t even know what’s special about yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:11 PM
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I’ve notice a lot of them trying to change the nature of your question and giving themselves excuses to not answer your question. I do appreciate the straight forward women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 04:54 PM
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Hi Lilith. So you know what YOU want but you don’t know why anyone would want YOU?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 04:41 PM
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This is the special that made me start asking questions 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:56 PM
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Her answer was, “I bring nothing tangible to the table and I shouldn’t be expected to if you really like me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:22 PM
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Jeez, you ladies usually have a whole list ready when it comes to the guys you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:07 PM
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I predict that women will make their answers needlessly more complicated than the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:05 PM
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IOI’s isn’t something an average chick would tell you about. That’s fisherman advice. A girl will just let you know if the chemistry is there. She won’t tell you how to create the chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:42 PM
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Whatever Lilith, idek why I debate you. Your terrible at it since you aren’t the least bit willing to have your mind changed. Other RP dudes would probably tell me I’m dumb for even arguing with you. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:35 PM
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How is any man supposed to know whether or not she wants to be cause by them. Asking them would just turn them off. And if a girl doesn’t want me, then I ask a fisherman how to get a girl to want me. Women don’t make their wants transparent, if they did, then they would be getting approach by more guys that they don’t want. But if I figure out what she wants without her instruction, it comes off as more genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:32 PM
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Alright, whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:28 PM
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I would disagree that it’s more helpful. Unless you can interpreter that she means the opposite of what she said. But a fisherman has actually caught fish, a fish has no experience in the field. It also has an indent I’ve to lie because it doesn’t wanna get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:47 PM
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NO ONE MADE WOMEN A FOCUS other than men. You guys paid a useless thot for her bathwater. Girls break up with their guys because “he didn’t pay enough attention to me” how often you hear dudes say the same, you gotta never be around him for him to feel that way. Our moms, dads, sisters, teachers, female friends, and friends of female friends all tell us to focus on her. If she ends up leaving us, it’s always our fault, for not treating her right. And if I remember correctly, women make fan clubs…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:45 PM
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Nobody joins anything randomly. Everyone has a reason. Some men were hurt, some men saw others get hurt, some women are curious and get convinced, some women observe the popularity and think there is a bit of truth to it. Her joining because her man is in it is just another one of those innumerable reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:30 PM
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I don’t understand your point. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:25 PM
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Don’t care for PUA stuff. If you’ve been active in the manosphere for decades, you would know that AWALT and NAWALT aren’t to be taken as statistical truths. When men say, all women are this and that, it means that so many of them are like that, you are statistically better of treating them as if they were all like that. I personally agree that women are like teenagers, not literally but their actions show less maturity. Women are the biggest spenders yet aren’t net tax payers. They’re financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:22 PM
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Those women are a minority and they’re typically in the harem of a red pill guy and accepting of their situation, so they’re involved by default. Nope, plenty of single and married women. Some couples discover it at the same time and come to agree. Mostly traditional households. They don’t have to be in harems to see the logical points RP talks about. There is a reason feminism is dying and redpill is growing. One of them can back up the crap it spews.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:58 PM
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That anger is the result of men realizing that women should not be as much of a focus as everyone made it seem. Stupid things like “You need to grow up, find a nice girl, and treat her like a queen” or “happy wife, happy life” or “ik this girl didn’t work out, but you’ll find you’re soul mate.” Men are mad at mostly themselves for wasting time chasing women fruitlessly and they’re mad at the people who encouraged it. Like when people say you look good after losing so much weight, part of you get…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:52 PM
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It happens because people want to use the insane fringes of a group to discredit it as a whole. It’s usually done as a way to avoid logically engaging in debate for fear of being wrong about that topic. An ideologically biased person’s ace card.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:43 PM
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I can understand where your coming from but at that point, it’s more women’s problem than ours. I also have seen quite a few women claiming to be redpill. Whether it’s true or not remains to be seen but there are signs of women wanting to be a part of it as the community grows. There isn’t a single popular thing in the world that women won’t want to be a part of. I believe the same applies to TRP and it’s growing popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:38 PM
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Those are definitely part of the RP but not the main message. You only think that’s the main message because those are things that involve you. The main message is for men to increase their own value, and to not hold female validation on a pedestal because it will only hinder you. RP gives information on how to accomplish both and logical arguments to back up anything else it talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:28 PM
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Yeah, and I said that to depict how little your involvement is when it comes to “picking you up.” Tbh, women feel like they should be involved in everything. There isn’t a single popular guy thing in the world that women haven’t tried to be a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:24 PM
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Well if you think about it. A man would know how to get a woman better than a woman. Why would you ask a fish how to catch it. It would make more sense to ask a fisherman how to catch fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:18 PM
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Eh yeah, some do. The main message is that your more hypergamous than you’d let on. You also have some feminists saying to kill men but I doubt that’s the main message.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 03:11 PM
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RomComs is far down the list of men’s preferred movie genres. The same can’t be said for women. Men aren’t observing the RomComs aimed at them, they are looking at the ones for women. It’s like a hunter finding out what the most effective bait would be for his prey. That’s just an analogy, no women aren’t animals to be hunted. Men try to be the thing women like, supply and demand. Women say stuff like “have a good personality” or “I just want a man who’s nice.” Women conveniently leave out/downp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:52 PM
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RomComs have an audience of predominantly females. Even if they are made by men, women positively respond to it. The movies most women respond positively to are those cheesy romance movies. So while the dude is an idiot for thinking the nice guy wins like in the movies. Women never really denied this when questioned about it. You do mislead by saying you want a guy like him(points to screen.) Then the men you actually pick are nothing like the movie guys. Men are at fault for believing the movie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:30 PM
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You don’t tolerate those movies, you enjoy them. Who tf goes to a movie they just “tolerate.” Romcoms have more females audiences, men made those narratives and women support them and give the most positive feedback. Logically, a man would see this and assume, “Oh, chicks must dig this.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:23 PM
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No lies, TRP calls out both blue pill men and women. You just see women getting called out more often because there are more questions and discussions centered on women than blue pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:19 PM
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It's the leverage with which men are recruited into the subreddit. Yeah, when somebody is down, they seek answers as to why things happened the way they did. You are treating redpill like a movement, it’s just a collection of logically provable information about women. why isn't there more management/encouragement by the "ideal" members to be less unsavory? Essentially role modeling them towards better RP behavior. There is, look at people like “Better Bachelor.” He’s a great example and very po…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:43 PM
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Not trying to gatekeep. Are you saying that the only type of men that would subscribe to TRP are the type of unflattering men you described? Like nobody who is successful with women would want to be redpill? Every group of people has its collection of unsavory types. But you shouldn’t take the worst of redpill and use them as representatives. There is also a stage of red pill called redpill rage and it’s a stage of redpill that all men go through, very few exceptions. It’s kinda like the anger o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:32 PM
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I completely disagree. She most certainly is not as pretty as the younger option, that is objectively wrong. Too many older women remain with the same standards they had when they were in their twenties. There are countless men who would also disagree with women being more emotionally mature with age. What you described would indeed be a more attractive trait but it isn’t what most older women display. Notice how most men still call their wives crazy even after being together for years. Im gonna…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:15 AM
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Your deliberately avoiding the question. TRP talks about those type of tactics too. Chemistry is yet another vague answer. What specific thing about her is more attractive than what a younger woman has to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:00 AM
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Like I said, if he CAN get younger girls, then he won’t see a point to dating an older woman. What is it about her that would make him “like” her more? Not gonna let you get away with being vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:53 AM
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Why would that 30 dude get with her if he can get a younger woman? You haven’t answered that yet. What benefit does she give him that could possibly beat her competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:38 AM
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But she doesn’t have the options she used to have. When she was 20, the hot business owner wanted to scoop her up. Now that she is 40, the 40 yo dude will only get with her if he can’t get the young girls. A successful 40 business man who CAN get hot young girls won’t want to commit to the 40yo woman. And nothing she does at that age will make her more appealing commitment wise to men with options. The same isn’t true with men. If he has money and if he stays in shape, young girls are all over h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:25 AM
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You just described blue pill men discovering TRP. TRP is just a collection of data and what men do with that data is up to them. Most men end up seeking that’s data when they feel bad about themselves. How can men be red pilled before they read about red pill? You conflated blue pilled distraught men and red pill men just because red pilled men were once distraught.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:14 AM
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And the majority of marriages are actually among people about the same age (+-5). And not 10-20 difference as trp fantasizes. And half of all marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorces are instigating by women. Marriage isn’t a very good measure for this kind of thing. Women don’t magically become unattractive at age 30. That’s just where the decline starts and if you put most 30 yo women side by side with young 20yo women. Most 30yo are outclassed by youth and beauty. Again if a man has acces…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:02 AM
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Men age like fine wine=men get more attractive as they age. Men gain more experience, money, and status as they age if they didn’t screw up in their 20’s by spending money on a girl or never saving. Women age like milk=women become less attractive to men as they age past 30. What men find attractive in women is mostly their looks and nurture abilities. Sure you can have a good job but that doesn’t really effect our attraction towards you since we are already willing to get with women who make le…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 12:45 AM
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Women might judge a man based on his ambitions and drive to obtain status, career, money, but marriage is not based only or even primarily on the ability of a man to provide. But of course, the resources or at least a potential to obtain them is important. At the same time, some women don’t value resources above other qualities such as attractiveness and personality (like manly personality, brave, strong, outgoing, confident, direct etc). Resources and protection, forgot the protection part. All…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 12:36 AM
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But hostility and aggression are incompatible with a sterile, corporatized world like this one, where there are no lands to conquer or enemies to subdue There are no lands to conquer sure, but there is territory to defend. There will always be aggressors looking to take what you have. Same reason we keep a lock on our doors. And to think there are no enemies to subdue is naive. Think of the corporate market. In order to stay on top you have to be aggressive. And competition must be aggressively …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:09 PM
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It may have been vital to building it but it surely is not vital to maintaining it. Um what? Things like military power, a masculine thing, is definitely needed to maintain things. Also masculine traits like leadership, aggression, dominance, etc. Are you saying that these things aren’t necessary to run a first world country?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:51 PM
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Feminism is ruining society and most certainly isn’t about equality. Since you didn’t give an example I will. One example of men being oppressed is the fact that men have NO reproductive rights. None at all. TRP talks about this and it’s a direct result of feminism. The increased sexual freedom women received was never followed with responsibility. Men are expected to be the most responsible in a situation where they have no power. Increased rights for women is cool, nobody is against that, unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:47 PM
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My definition of Chad is a genetically gifted male. Just cause he’s Chad doesn’t make him a High value man relationship wise. Others might say Chad means high value man. Depends on the person. I'd say your theory is pretty devoid of.. anything. If that were true you’d be able to tell me why. Your response was really devoid of... anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:25 PM
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Or maybe masculinity is something that men can’t help but display because they are men and men tend to be masculine. Also masculinity was vital part to building a comfortable first world in the first place. So logically it makes sense that it’s vital in maintaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:20 PM
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Possibly, but in order to think that about the men, he has to already have a red pill idea of treating women. He thinks, “These women will always be willing to be unfaithful for a Chad like me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:16 PM
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Different definitions for Chad at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:12 PM
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What do you mean false unflattering light?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:12 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen that study, it sucks. When men leave, it’s because she can’t hold up her end of the marriage bargain. Of course it has to be a very serious illness. You need to account for how women don’t get sick as often as men do. Look at the life expectancy between men and women. And other thing like the length of the relationship. Yeah a guy is more likely to leave if it’s 2 to 3 years but if it’s longer, the woman has us beat. But mUh FeMaLe HyPeRgAmY still applies. Woman won’t leave a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:06 PM
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I mean, having a bunch of women willing to cheat on their boyfriends with you is probably going to have that effect on some Chads. Yeah, that effect is them realizing what the things red pilled men talk about through experience. Imagine being the guy who slept with a countless cheating wives and gfs? How could they not develop a red pill view of things? He’s probably thinking that he shouldn’t get married since he has witnessed first hand how unfaithful women are capable of being and how good th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:53 PM
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None of those women, or women in general, would have considered those men for marriage had any of them not had the resources to support them. That’s what the marriage agreement is. Exclusive sex in exchange for resources. It’s been that way since the beginning of humanity. You can make it sound as rosy as you want but that’s the backbone of a committed relationship. Plenty of women in my circle are actually making more money than their bfs/spouses. Your example is also not the rule. Men are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 09:47 PM
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Yeah no, red pill men do not think they are worthless. You’re either lying or didn’t bother to make the effort to know anything about TRP. If women didn’t hold a man’s resource gathering ability above his personality, why do so many women leave men who fall ill or get injured and need to find a new job? Hypergamy. If she sees that he can’t make money(resources) to support the lifestyle she’s used to, she’s out. It’s not “his” version of the world, it’s the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:25 PM
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So in your mind, a red-pill man is the opposite of Chad? Did it ever occur to you that Chad himself could be red-pilled? TRP is all about men knowing their own value and making steps to increase it. You really think that Chads don’t know they have what most women want. A lot of Chads are fully aware of why women find them attractive in the first place. Since they deal with the most women, it makes sense that he could piece things together and figure out that hypergamy favors him, provided he isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 08:15 PM
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Yeah I lived near KU campus for a while and these girls out here be sport fucking. Literally all you had to do to get laid was take a Snapchat pic of a fridge full of liquor or a table full of weed and suddenly they be wondering what you doing tonight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:21 AM
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Nah, a woman can be a complete loser and still land a man willing to treat her like a queen. A man actually has to make something of himself to get a chance with a woman. Men work hard to get a woman, women work hard to keep a man. A woman’s hard work consists of not being out of shape, not being bitchy and annoying, and satisfying her man sexually. From a man’s point of view this seems like the simplest of things. Compared to what men do to acquire and maintain attraction, women have it easier.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:13 AM
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Very true within the realm of boyfriend/girlfriend/fiancé. That isn’t always the case if your married tho. If she can get the government to hold your balls in a vice grip, no amount of alpha energy will save you from the family courts. Being alpha with your woman involves a lot of giving her what she needs rather than what she wants. But if she possesses the power to punish you severely for not giving her what she wants then the juice ain’t worth the squeeze at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:59 AM
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I didn’t really understand your second sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:34 AM
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As are you. I will respond because I don’t take things on reddit as seriously as you seem to. We don’t have to be close or even know each other to use the word bruh. It’s just a word used the same way as when you say buddy, pal, or mate. Social distancing in high frequency also causes depression as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:44 PM
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Probably the guy who expresses his own metaphorical depression rather than trying to change my view on a CMV post. Get with the program bruh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:44 PM
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I’m not the depressed one here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:34 PM
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Yeah, you got a point. Lack of trust is bigger with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:32 PM
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First, I wouldn't even ask her how many past relationships she's had. I don't care. I would, it’s a good way to get a good view of her character. Second, her past relationships could also be failing because she needs a man that knows how to guide her. Very true, but one must also be aware that she might not be the type of woman who want guidance from a man. Most women don’t know they need it but is it worth trying if her resistance to it is too great? Lastly, I don't care about her body count ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:29 PM
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Your are looking at it in an optimistic way. But the stats show what is actually happening. Look at Instagram, it’s all about validation and it’s popular world wide. Don’t even get me started on girls DM’s. It’s the same as if crime was suddenly legal, crime would inevitably increase. Combine that with women’s need to be validated being higher than men and you have what I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:20 PM
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You might be right. But it is something dudes wish they knew about when things don’t work out. I’d argue that it’s something that should be a rule. Too bad it is discouraged by people who say things like “her past doesn’t matter, she’s a different person.” It does matter, I need to know if she used to peoples elbow her boyfriends in their sleep cause they cheated on her in a dream lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:14 PM
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Idk if it’s in the same league. The fact that she was a lesbian isn’t a deal breaker for dude the same way a bi guy is for women. If I found out Scarlet Johanson used to eat pussy, I won’t be like “ew you used to eat what?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:08 PM
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They aren’t attracted to them most of the time. Not that they dislike them. Like if women found out Robert Downey Jr. got ran through by multiple dudes, they wouldn’t feel the same way about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:01 PM
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They make pills for that I heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:56 PM
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Knowing about a woman’s past relationships can be a good way to get a good view of her character. So saying nobody cares is just untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:55 PM
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The main comment got deleted but I got the idea. I never thought about the fact that women also don’t like guys who’ve been ran through by guys. The concept of anyone being taken by a man is viewed in somewhat the same way by both sexes. Mind blower right there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:54 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:32 PM
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It’s all the same to me. Whether her high N came from casual sex or relationships. A high N on either front means her relationship bonding capabilities are shot and she’s been ran through by too many different people. Her ideas of romance in both cases will have be altered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:14 PM
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A man can kill all his kids, but as soon as he kills his wife too, its considered familicide. He still killed his own kids. True, but even with this taken into account. Women still beat men in killing kids. So in the case of men being more of a danger to kids, your wrong. Maternal filicide is on the rise, especially with single motherhood rising. A man can be a well-known cheater and still get remarried. I have also seen this in my life. In fact. We have a POTUS who did this. And she can still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:06 PM
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Yeah, but it is a red flag. Red flags aren’t deal breakers, they are point where extreme caution is recommended. Red flag traits are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:59 PM
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Female virgins? I find that hard to believe since women have more opportunities to sleep with the hottest guys thanks to technology. While also not needing to have game and having little to no hoops to jump through to get into a dudes pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:42 PM
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I meant for the cheating not the beating part, I should have clarified. Also, I thought we were talking about men being a harm to children. The reason women don’t kill other family members more often is because they aren’t physically able to most of the time. That ain’t the case for children though, since women have physical dominance over them. Your moving the goalposts again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:39 PM
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Her wising up and choosing you doesn’t account for the possibility that she is the issue that ruined those past relationships and will quite possibly ruin yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:15 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:11 PM
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All my Aunt’s gal pals had husbands that would cheat on them or beat them. Therefore, its safe to assume all men are scum bags solely based on my perspective. Could it be that my Aunt made friends with dysfunctional women who make bad choices? No. No, IT MUST BE MEN. There are laws that punish men for such behaviors. Not for women. And there is very little reward in trusting men with children and alot of risk. Aren’t women the ones who kill their children more often? Mother’s filicide rates are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:08 PM
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Basically we know statistically that not all women are like that. You are just better off assuming that they are because so many of them are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:25 PM
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I never said all women. But there are certainly enough women doing it that they are shifting men's view on all women. It creates a fallacy where men think that all women are degenerate worthless sluts. So your problem is his wording then. Fine, replace degenerate “worthless sluts” with “women that sleep around.” Happy? Do you have an argument that isn’t super emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:22 PM
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So the typical “Every girl I look at (and probably want to fuck) is a skank. Therefore, ALL WOMEN ARE SKANKS.” That’s very stupid. Hm, yeah that’s totally what I meant. You neglected to tell me how my evidence is wrong tho. I deleted my Instagram after high school so it isn’t the women I look at. It’s most women. Why are you calling them skanks tho😂 Wrong premise. The 3 month rule is to WEED OUT thristy men. The male equivalent would be to WEED OUT gold diggers and psychos. Not abandon marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:18 PM
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No one said all, that’s you. Most women do that. And nobody called them skanks. You’re too emotional. It is so obvious that you hate men. At least try to make it subtle Lilith. No one will take you seriously if you can’t keep the She-Hulk in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:09 PM
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SOOOOOO mamy men are rapists, that you might as well treat them all like that! Its lessnof a risk to assume men will rape children when people’s backs are turned. Your attempt to reverse my argument doesn’t work here because you have no evidence. My evidence is social media. Log onto Instagram and say I’m wrong lol. The explore page has nothing but sexualized women. I doubt they had a gun pointed to their heads. Do you have evidence that most men are rapists that will molest children behind peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:51 PM
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Having sex with someone immediately doesn't get you a relationship. Never said it had to be immediately, a woman can have a high body count along with a high boyfriend count. A woman who’s had a lot of boyfriends is a red flag as well. Also if marrying women didn't benefit men they wouldn't do it according to your logic yet I bet you believe marriage is bad for men. That because men simply aren’t aware of the risks or are emotionally blinded. I guarantee you that most men who went through divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:45 PM
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His philosophy is good enough for him. TRP advocates ways to get what you want. If he doesn’t want a super interesting life then that’s his choice. IMO that’s still well within the bound of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:39 PM
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Don’t lie. Sleeping around benefits women because they get to sleep with a hot guy and possibly get him into a relationship. If it only benefited men and not women, women wouldn’t have high body counts. Women use sex as both entertainment and a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:35 PM
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No, they use it to describe all women. How do they use all women “reward the bad guy”? THEY DONT. They just assume they women do, but some women they like fucked some man they hated. It’s statistically impossible for it to be all women. It’s really just most women. The concept of AWALT doesn’t actually mean all women because that’s impossible. It means that soooo many women are like that, you may as well treat all women like they are like that. If half the tires on a car don’t work, don’t drive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:33 PM
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Most men don’t expect to get any virgins because of how unrealistic it is in today’s society. Back in traditional time it was an achievable goal and the only reason some guys want it today is because they used their older relatives as examples. Women’s sexual freedom makes this near impossible since women are now even encouraged to sleep around. The most that some guys ask for is a low body count. The lower the count, the higher the value. A perfectly chaste woman is almost like the a faithful C…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:26 PM
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But there is evidence proving flat earthers wrong. While there is evidence proving that most women post pictures to varying sexual degrees. Same logic, but one is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:16 PM
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You kinda moved it again, thought we were talking about trophies but I’ll bite. Just because she asked for it, doesn’t absolve the perpetrator of the crime in any way. It merely highlights that the situation was avoidable if the woman was competent enough to use her available options to get a desired outcome. Of course the context matters in situations like this. She doesn’t always have control of such situations. People use the “she made herself a trophie” argument when the woman has enough con…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:13 PM
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I mean one situation uses the logic correctly and the other doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:03 PM
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The “Women are wonderful” thing isn’t about seeing women as people. It’s about seeing them as near perfect humans. That’s why guys hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:00 PM
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You’re moving the goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:59 PM
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So what if it’s the same logic? One is right and one is wrong, that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:57 PM
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Nice misrepresentation, I almost took you seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:21 PM
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Is that what you got from this. I think your the sick one here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:20 PM
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Lol take care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:32 PM
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No, I didn’t know that cause you changed the definition of generally to suite what you said. Which is fine but you should have specified that that is what you meant in the post itself. At this point, idek if you know what the words “shrill” or “offended” mean. You called men out, denied that you did, then acted like the pushback you got was undeserved. If you gonna claim all men don’t stop at 18 don’t be surprised that some men tell you to screw off. It’s like poking a snake, being surprised it …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:29 PM
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I feel for those girls but it doesn’t make it right to paint most men as predators because some men are. That’s a purely an emotional point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:15 PM
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So men in general are the men you described? General isn’t a lot to you? General means mostly does it not lol? So were you not, indeed talking about most men? Or do you not know what the word “generally” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:11 PM
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That evidence doesn’t even talk about pedos. Boy are not predators just because they are perverts. It’s also kinda ironic that you use the BBC as evidence even though they’ve been found to have ties to pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:01 PM
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You obviously didn’t read my response. I specifically said you didn’t say pedo. If your points were so “obvious”, why are you getting blasted for it. You even said “Y’all don’t stop at 18.” “Y’all” literally means all. You blatantly called men out there. But we just want to believe whatever we wanna believe huh lol. You made a dumb claim then got called out for it. Just take the L gracefully, like a Kween.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:55 PM
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I even explain how for some men it’s a slippery i slope NO you didn't, anywhere. ​ I used pubescent girls as one of the examples of fertile. Me saying all men like fertile isn’t me saying all men are pedos. Ik you used it as an example of fertile. It was your ONLY example. If you indeed dont mean most men, why only use a pedo example to explain men's desires. You also said this: We don't think y'all magically stop at 18. We know for a fact you don't. Again, clearly implying all men. Then proceed…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:40 PM
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Men like boobies, women develop boobs at a young age, therefore most men are pedos? Wtf kinda logic is that. You’re making most men responsible for the behavior of the sins of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:51 PM
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You didn’t follow that line of thought at all. If I missed anything, why haven’t you told me? I said I think all men like fertile looking. So why would you only use girls in puberty to describe a trait shared by all men That’s literally the only time I said all. OP said that as well. Yeah, and you agree with the OP who said all men. So remind me how I strawmanned you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:49 PM
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I think all men like “fertile looking” as OP so nicely put it. And for a lot of girls that starts at puberty (which was 11 in my case). And yep the moment you have to wear a training bra men go from “that’s a kid” to “omgggg boobies” and it’s a clusterfuck. I dont believe I strawmanned you at all. You even said all men, and used an example saying that we go for girls when they hit puberty. But Ok lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:41 PM
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Men like boobies, women develop boobs at a young age, therefore most men are pedos? Wtf kinda logic is that. You’re making most men responsible for the behavior of the sins of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:29 PM
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You are just an expert at denial and moving the goalposts. Your whole response can be summed up by you saying “it’s not that big a deal.” Whoopi is a bitch to EVERYONE, men most effected. Address the numerous examples I gave you. You avoid doing so because you know your wrong. But your too prideful to admit it. A big rich company panders to big rich companies...... This is shit a teenager could figure out. Im sure you believe Hillary Clinton won the election in 2016 then. Since you think so high…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 09:29 AM
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There’s no hope for you if you think main stream media = reality. Even teenagers have learned that’s not true. That’s just a poor attempt at trying to diminish how much reach the main stream media has. Billions of dollars and you think it doesn’t have that much of an effect on how the general population receives information. It’s called MAIN STREAM for a reason. Even YouTube caters to them by always putting them on the trending page. Your the only hopeless one here. Lol Want to talk about how Po…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:34 PM
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If you didnt hear about Asia Argento taking advantage of a teen boy, that’s on you. It was big news when it came out. I addressed your imaginary double standards. If you dont like it, stop making imaginary double standards. No it wasn’t “big news”, MSM barely reported on it. But they kept up with Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby for every second. And there wasn’t even any physical evidence against them. Just witness testimonies. Word of mouth is the weakest form of evidence. Asia was NOT largely …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:04 PM
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Your comment is useless and addresses nothing from my comment others than that you would have preferred me to say “some” women. Classic response of someone with nothing constructive to add. Your just looking for a fight. Hope you figure out what angers you so much Lilith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:41 PM
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If post nut clarity had an on/off switch, men’s decision making would be godlike and women would lose one of their most effective weapons. I seems like men’s greatest weakness is their desire for women. It really fogs up the logic lenses. At least we are expected to be responsible for our libido usually punished for it when it’s deserved too. Can’t really say the same for women, in fact there are cases where the man is responsible for the woman’s libido too. Like when you hear women dodging resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:48 AM
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Nah, just that specific argument. I mean yeah I love looking at women too. Lol It’s so incredibly common. It’s in the same league of cliche as “it’s not you it’s me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:03 PM
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I’m not talking about actual sex, I’m talking about the person you have sex with. Men could have outstanding sex with any woman. But just cause the sex is great doesn’t mean we will commit to her. She could fuck my brains out the back of my neck. But just because she made me cum like a rouge fire hydrant, doesn’t guarantee I’ll want to wife her up. If she fucked Carl, and I have reasons to believe Carl is the scum of the earth. I’m inevitably going to feel some type of way about her. Won’t stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:58 PM
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Ah the classic “your just meeting the wrong women” argument. Love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:50 PM
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Thank god, you too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:42 PM
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But many women are afraid to tell men, since many men, not all, but many are inclined to think of women who enjoy sex as dirty whores. Everyone enjoys sex, men aren’t mad about that, that would be absurd. Women constantly lie and tell men they have had fewer sexual partners than they actually have. The rule of thumb me and my group of girlfriends used in our late twenties was “divide by two.” For some reason it really inflates men’s ego to think that they are somehow the best sexual partner that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:41 PM
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Tell me, is there a nice way to let a girl down when the reason you won’t date her is because of her promiscuous past? However I explain my reason for not dating will be seen as slut shaming. I’d go so far as to say that the act of just not dating promiscuous women in large numbers is see as slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:32 PM
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I meant to say defend and no I’m not being obtuse, you just didn’t read enough into what I said and made assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:28 PM
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Sure whatever, you love betas. I concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:26 PM
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Lol keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:25 PM
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And I didn’t encourage it or use it as an example. My main point was still relevant to the topic. Counter-Lol! Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:24 PM
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Lol it’s women that hate settling. If you didn’t hate settling, you wouldn’t have so much disdain for betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:22 PM
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No, your trying to equalize the nature of men and women’s decision making. An average man would sleep with 100 different women if he could. Not cheat with, just sleep with. Do you believe and average woman would choose to do so as well? The answer is NO! The fact that there is a difference in what those sexes would do is what I’m trying to point out. That’s why I have to keep repeating myself because people like you keep thinking men and women are equal in their desires. THEY ARE NOT. We want di…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:20 PM
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Outliers don’t break the rule, you definitely aren’t an average woman if you’ll gladly take 100 of everything at the buffet. Don’t say duh as if most women are like you Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:04 PM
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Wow, um I’m pretty sure both sexes worry about cheating, it’s not exclusive to women you know. Guys commonly worry about that guy you tell us not to worry about. It’s so common that it’s a popular meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:58 PM
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Yes we’d do so happily, it’s called settling. Men in general are fine with settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:54 PM
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That’s what I’m trying to say. Men don’t feel what you feel. The only one with a problem in that situation is the woman, generally. That’s how we are different. If men COULD have more than one woman we would. Look at the thread with me and the other commenter, she had the same problem and didn’t understand what I was trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:52 PM
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I don’t think anyone really expects a wife to be ok with that sort of thing. I said what I said to illustrate the difference in thought processes between the sex’s. Like how women can’t imagine a man living a polygamous life with his wife, and the husband still loves the wife over the other women. It’s just like how a woman has to like a guy to fuck him. A guy has to like a woman to fuck her again. Men can better separate the body from the person, women have a harder time with that. Sex is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:44 PM
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Where’s the evidence that cheating is only with someone they leave and become in a relationship with? I understand they cheat, I know why they cheat. You’re very hung up on believing no one can understand men cheating other than men. Like it’s really not that complex, it’s very simple. The only one hung up on the concept of cheating is you. I never once even used cheating as an example. Your the one who brought cheating into this and now your trying to accuse me of defending it? The question is,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:34 PM
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Buuuut he never gets rid of the antique car. He can’t bring himself to. That car gave him its best years, that’s why he still polishes it and gives it the very same good treatment he had been giving it for years. That car was loyal. Anyone can twist an analogy to suite their narrative. I used the car analogy to describe how men view wife goggles. You used it to push a narrative that men are never faithful. I guess your saying that a man will inevitably cheat because he can right. Good thing huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:18 PM
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People on this sub like to claim women cheat as much as men, so how exactly can we be naturally monogamous if we cheat often too? By monkey branching to someone better and staying with him. Would you hold onto 2 hvm at the same time or pick the best outta the two of them? What you said about cheating is more of an example of hypergamy but I believe hypergamy is connected to monogamy. Why not just have both men instead of choosing? I’m sure there are some women that wouldn’t choose but outliers d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:00 PM
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It doesn’t make things necessarily easy. An average man will always have to put in hard work to get consistent casual sex. TRP just clearly defines the rules of the game. I guess it’s easier in the sense of knowing the rules as opposed to being deceived through the blue pill lense. TRP men who learn how the world really works are like, “I now know that no matter how nice I am, I will never get laid unless I get my money up, my muscles up, and my success up. None of that Disney shit is gonna get …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:37 PM
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Coming from a man that can’t understand why women wouldn’t sleep with 100 men other than they have to be naturally monogamous. Never said it was the only reason. Just pointed out that natural monogamy could be one of the reasons why a woman wouldn’t thing to just partake of that many men. Of course her biological clock, eggs, and her hypergamous nature are all contributing factors. But that really doesn’t disprove my claim. No shit men and women can be different, but nothing supports that they’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:07 PM
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In all honesty, it’s the same as when anyone else wants you. Is the ego boost bigger though? I have been in a situation where my friends girl wanted to jump my bones. Didn’t go for it and I told my boy a couple days later since I couldn’t do him like that but I can’t deny that it was flattering in a way. I’d still say no because to a blue pill man, any validation from a woman is a big ego boost. That’s why guys can remember complements from 3rd grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:35 PM
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Yes you do have a tough time understanding. From your response I can tell that you are incapable of seeing things like this from a perspective other than your own. Men and women are wired differently, people will have an easier time in life if they just try to understand this simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:25 PM
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It’s not desperate. Like I said, women have a tough time understanding because they are NATURALLY monogamous. Let’s say 10 insanely hot women lined up in front of me and all of them were madly in love me. If I could have my way, I’d want to have them all. But I’m supposed to integrate into a monogamous society so I’d have to pick one. That one would logically be the one I deem to be the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:18 PM
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I get it from the simple fact that a man would be happy sleeping with 100 different women. I don’t believe a woman would be prideful of having 100 different men inside her. She’d be prideful of having 1 high quality man. High quality by her standards since they vary slightly from woman to woman. How many sexually dimorphic females have babies with multiple male? Excluding a male that killed her previous mate to then mate with her. That part doesn’t apply to civil humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:05 PM
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If you’re a woman it makes sense that you feel that way. You are naturally built to be monogamous. Men have teach ourselves monogamous disciplines. We are naturally built to be polygamous. Though we can have favorites.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:41 PM
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The concept of wife goggles is similar to a man who cherishes a car that he’s owned since 1998. The car was very valuable in the market in 1998 and the man payed full price for it. He keeps the car up until current day. A 98’ is on valuable to the man personally because of the good memories and tough times he’s gone through with the car. Other people might look at his car and think it’s junk but the man still loves it. Of course a wife is a human so you wouldn’t treat them exactly like a car but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:06 PM
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That’s a new one, always thought they were one and the same. Looks like I learned something today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:23 PM
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I’m in agreement on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:06 PM
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How so? This is news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:59 PM
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She could still over react. Women aren’t children, they are capable of putting puzzle pieces together. “Oh so you won’t do it cause I slept with XYZ, so you calling me a ***”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:57 PM
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Because they DISLIKE those traits in the parters they seek
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:55 PM
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That’s like saying a short girl has no business disliking short men. What she is has very little to do with what she wants. She could have had too many boyfriends in the past. Her wanting a relationship first doesn’t excuse her promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:53 PM
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So just because I’m sexually attracted to a women, I should then be able to commit to her because sexual attraction is present?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:35 PM
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Never said you should mate. But which would you prefer for marriage or long term relationship? A low body count prude or a high body count hoe? Both love you and are loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:34 PM
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So why do people come to the conclusion that a trait is unsuitable for their personal standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:31 PM
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You chose to take it that way. I’m not going to apologize just because your interpretation of what I said pissed you off. Try to understand what I’m saying before you make judgments. I’m not responsible for your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:28 PM
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That is such a surface level view of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:26 PM
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Guys like sleeping with slutty women. We don’t like dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:19 PM
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You said yourself that disliking promiscuity is slut shaming. Having preferences involves disliking stuff. So by YOUR OWN LOGIC, me not wanting to date promiscuous women is slut shaming because I dislike promiscuity in women for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:19 PM
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Gosh, women get real pissed about this stuff. Doesn’t hoe mean sexually promiscuous? Why do I have to take responsibility for the way she reacts to my preference. I’d understand the anger if I straight up called her a hoe but that’s not the case. I simply refuse to date her because she is too promiscuous for my liking. What’s wrong with me having standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:15 PM
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Simply rejecting a woman because you don’t date women with a promiscuous past, no matter how lightly we put it, is seen as slut shaming. We don’t have to call you anything. You simply don’t allow men to have this standard. Why is rejecting a woman because she is slutty a bad thing while rejecting a man for his height and wealth is perfectly fine. This is why guys say that women don’t like it when men have standards. It’s hypocritical. “Rules for thee but not for me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:57 PM
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You dislike promiscuality. Disliking promisuity is called 'slut shaming. And you just proved my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:30 PM
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I don’t call her a hoe tho. I just reject her because she is one. Is a hoe not a sexually promiscuous person or did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:22 PM
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No, women take the act of my rejecting them on the grounds of their promiscuity as slut shaming. Never said I call them hoes. It’s just easier to type hoe when describing such a woman. Your reaction kinda proves my point though. The fact that you couldn’t understand what I was trying to say and immediately accusing me of slut shaming is how most women react.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:20 PM
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I was stating that she is a hoe. I don’t call her one. You misunderstood my use of parentheses. Any way we explain our reason, she will take it as us calling her a hoe. We don’t have to directly call her one for her to freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:15 PM
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Notice how I didn’t CALL anyone a slut. The reason for my rejection is because she is a slut. I’m talking about her state of being. I have the freedom to have whatever preference I want, one of those preferences is that I don’t want her to have been a hoe. How would you inform someone that the reason you won’t date them is because they’ve had too many past partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:59 PM
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Your comment shows exactly what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:54 PM
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You have to realize that to many women, the simple act of avoiding them due to their “slut” tendencies is seen as slut shaming. If a woman asks to start a relationship and the man tells her the reason he won’t do it (cause she a hoe). We are deemed slut shamers in that regard. We don’t even really have to insult a woman, the act of rejection IS the insult. There is really no nice way to let a girl down when it comes to this. It’s incredibly likely she will get emotional, and because of that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:22 AM
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More like aggression is sexy. The rest is right but the first part leaves too much open to gas lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 10:50 AM
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I think there hasn’t been a conclusive study on this because it just seems unnecessary. There’s a reason why stereotypes like “you can’t turn a hoe into a housewife” exist. There is some truth to it. You ever notice how calling a woman a hoe is a more cutting insult than when done vice-versa? It’s the go-to insult for a man. Just like how calling a man a virgin is the go- to insult for women. They are insulting because they are seen as negative characteristics to those respective sexes. So to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:19 PM
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Men typically don’t wanna date a hoe. We will gladly sleep with one. We find hoes unattractive relationship wise. Men don’t have to like you to sleep with you, women do. Men have to like you to sleep with you again. What’s stupid about that? Women like men who are already good in bed. How does one get good in bed? By having experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:47 PM
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If she makes ME wait but all the dudes before her got to throw her some back shots then it doesn’t feel like it’s worth the wait. For all I know, her coochie could be a national treasure that charms all who get the pleasure of making its acquaintance. But if I hear 6 other people got to raid her lost ark on the first expedition. Finding the treasure doesn’t seem like much of an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:38 PM
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TRP is illogical? In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:29 PM
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Anything will seem directed towards someone if that someone is the subject of criticism. But TRP men are not mad at women, they are mad at how society treats women compared to men. Women and society are the subject of our criticism, women take it as an attack, it’s a matter of perception. If I say that women shouldn’t get special treatment because I as a man am not afforded the same privileges. Women take it like we mean women shouldn’t get any privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:07 PM
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The difference is men don’t lie about it, that’s what we call women out on. Men don’t generally try to hide their hoe”ness” and women do. It’s women who are know to do stuff like hide their body counts. Plus, women like men that other women like. Women like men who are experienced in the sack. How does one gain this experience I wonder? It’s almost like you prefer men with hoe”ish” tendencies(excluding cheating of course) Male hoes are definitely happier than female hoes too. Men have always val…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 09:00 PM
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Experiencing emotion always runs the risk of getting stuck in them, even the good emotions. This doesn’t just apply to TRP, it applies to all humans and anything capable of emotion. Even your dog can be stuck in a state of constant sadness. The thought of that actually hurts a bit(I love dogs). Crying is externalizing your sadness and depression. Working out, yelling, angrily typing online, punching a punching bag are all forms of externalizing anger. What makes how some TRP guy’s way of venting…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:35 PM
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Alright we agree, that’s exactly what TRP does. Everyone copes differently. While you might be sad, other might be pissed. But no matter how you cope, you don’t wanna be stuck in that phase. TRP give men the truth that society lied to them about and young men are picking it up now, me included. If any of them get upset, they aren’t mad at the truth, they’re mad they couldn’t learn it earlier. It coulda saved them a lot of heart ache and thoughts of “you’re not good enough.” We could have more ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:24 PM
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Let’s say you would really like to have a husband and you went all the way up till your adulthood and some not knowing that men are incredibly visual, and that your career and status are not considered very heavily when a man chooses a woman. All while society told you that men are not that visual and we indeed look at you career and status. Of course you spend a considerable amount of time gaining your success and status and in doing so, your looks aren’t at the level it would normally take for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:14 PM
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Your basically just saying to deal with it, just don’t get mad. One of the ways any human deals with anything is anger, especially once you realize you’ve been lied to and told that the reason you can’t get what you want is your fault. It’s like lying to a child for years about Santa clause. Then when he finds out Santa isn’t real and the kid questions why he was lied to, you tell him it’s his fault for believing such a thing and that he is a moron for not being able to figure it out. Would that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 07:30 PM
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In theory this thought experiment would make sense. But in order for it to work the way you describe, both parties would need to live their experiences through logical lenses. We already know that women focus on emotion and men on logic, so I don’t see much of a difference happening. If the sexes switched places, men(women) would just demand that the toilet seat be left up instead of down. That pretty much sums it up for me. The reason for all of the contention is the fact that men and women sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 05:23 PM
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Both of the sexes do bitch. It’s just that one bitches from a logical POV and the other an emotional POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:37 PM
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It good that you would but you are just one person. I’m sure there are plenty of good people who would be willing to help. Here the problem though. The left actively demonizes men to a ridiculous degree. I read several articles saying that “Men are making less money and have less job opportunities, this is bad for women who are actively searching for a partner.” They talked of only how it effected women and didn’t even mention the fact that men are poor and jobless. All of traditional media whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:27 PM
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There are too many states that don’t require proof, and the reason I bring up women is because they have the most offices designed to help specifically them and they require very little verification to use, which makes them easy to abuse. Men don’t even have domestic abuse shelters, yet look up the amount women have even though domestic abuse rates are almost the same for both sexes. Since women are the bigger population, they will always have the favor of voter majority on top of female privile…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:54 PM
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Both men and women are capable of grossly abusing a system. I’m not opposed to helping people but the welfare state has grown to go far beyond that. When I think of helping people, I think of Soup kitchens, homeless shelters, places that help the poor search for jobs, stuff like that. All of those things seem good at face value but lemme give you an example of my own experience. I was at one point homeless. So I decided to stay at a homeless shelter. From there I searched for a job, worked, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 01:36 PM
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No the problem is that high population areas like cities vote overwhelmingly Blue. Cities will always vote for welfare systems since they like free stuff and don’t care where most of the money comes from. So net tax payers(men) are forced to help fund the lives of people abusing a system with no attempts to at least regulate it. And even while cities us welfare systems, they obviously aren’t effective and have done very little against poverty. Look at cities like San Francisco, people literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:56 PM
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That’s called tyranny of the majority. Especially if the majority of voters are women who will vote only for things that benefit them. Then you mask your intentions by saying it helps everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:34 AM
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Nope. There are all sorts of characteristics that can make a man seem creepy, many of them being definitely within the man's control. I never said anything about traits being uncontrollable. It’s that we DON’T know which traits would creep a specific woman out. It’s not like we can read minds and immediately know which trait you personally find creepy. For example, how am I supposed to know you like my humor without exposing you to it? You might find it creepy while many other women I know find …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:33 PM
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They are free to choose any man they want. No man really has a problem with that alone. But we get annoyed with women because when their attempts at the super valuable men fail. They force us average dudes to sit and listen to them grumble about how men suck because the man they wanted had options and decided that there were better options than her. Another issue is the fact that a lot of women just don’t understand men and have trouble seeing things from our perspective. They are under the impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:33 PM
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Yeah, some women want you to be persistent. It risky though because a woman who wants you to and a woman who doesn’t act the same way when you attempt it. Men are scared of being accused of being a creep because women only think men are creeps if they don’t find them attractive. There’s no way for the man to know whether or not she thinks he’s a creep without trying. That’s why more and more guys would rather just not try.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 11:41 AM
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There are plenty of places to get free condoms, though. Yeah but nobody really bitches about condoms. Also they are not as reliable as any of the choices women have and are easily sabotaged. If we had a pill that would change the game. Plus men still don’t have over 12 gov assisted options. So even if vasectomies were assisted, the responsibility would still be more on the woman since she has more options. Why do I have to have surgery because a woman can’t be bothered to force a man to wear a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 11:19 AM
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There is also plenty of evidence that people support promiscuous women. Examples include media, numerous articles online, feminists, slut walks and marches, most of the democratic left, and men looking for just sex. There are a lot of women who are unapologeticly promiscuous. And most of the are still dishonest about their body count because on a subconscious level, they are not proud of it. You not being part of that exact group doesn’t mean they aren’t prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:06 AM
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I do yes but more like 70%. Not everywhere sex happens is an appropriate place for foreplay. But sometimes the location itself can do the job foreplay is supposed to do. I just get off to how much a woman craves me. Foreplay definitely make the job easier. All I do is look for a woman’s switch and it’s game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:06 AM
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Well this only applies when we want relationships. We don’t put pressure on. We don’t wanna force women to do anything they don’t wanna do. I don’t believe that the set standards are too high really. If a girl didn’t meet our standards, we just leave her be and go on about our day. No harm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:03 AM
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She just has to derive pleasure from it. I don’t have to be the best she ever had but I definitely don’t wanna be the worst. But if I could help it, I’d like to be the best, it’s a pride thing. We feel more manly and our egos shoot through the roof if our partners really like bedding us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:58 AM
-1

I understand what you mean. But so long as we live in a free county and the adult age is 18. As an 18yo it’s your responsibility to be wary of people trying to coerce you. This doesn’t just apply to porn, but to all aspects of life. They do make you sign contracts and rehearse scrips and women can back out whenever since they don’t get paid until after the scene is done. Anyone who is try’s to recruit anyone under age should be punish to the full extent of the law.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:42 AM
-1

Porn encourages men to ignore hygiene? You sure this men aren’t just gross. I don’t think porn is responsible for men’s hygiene.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:38 AM
-4

Why do you care if you don’t plan on giving [pedos] a chance in the first place. [Child] porn will never disappear so long as there are men who want [children] but can’t get [one]. If other men can be influenced by the porn the [pedos] enjoy, doesn’t that make it a consequence of not giving the [pedos] a chance. You started with this and gave no clarification that you didn’t mean all pornography. Should women stop caring about child abuse too, along with the abuse of women and teenage girls? No?…
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:35 AM
-1

The men still find ugly women beautiful. It is subjective after all. Keep in mind, this is the generation of men being raised mostly by women.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:32 AM
-1

Well that’s not a charitable representation. Not all porn is violent in that way. Soft core porn is a thing. Men’s tastes are too varied to pin the all to one category.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:30 AM
-4

Yeah, ig that’s one way. But you would still have the problem of porn being on the internet. Other men still have access to it.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:28 AM
-4

So yes? I’m not sure about tour answer.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:27 AM
1

Exactly, I’ll be here all week.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:24 AM
1

Don’t act like you had any real arguments lol. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:24 AM
2

Why would you take it out if you didn't want the V? Because if I was a deadbeat, I wouldn’t care. Sex? Who doesn't? Someone who doesn’t want a losers kid No. It's your fault if you want to engage in sex. Then the same applies to the woman. And it’s even worse for you if you knew the guy was a deadbeat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:20 AM
1

But a woman can make you wear a condom? Yes, by closing your legs if he refuses. Boom you legally forced us If you know you have to pay child support to a woman you don't even like, you suck at choosing women. Why are you depending on someone you know is an asshole to be responsible. That in itself is a dumb mistake. Will you acknowledge a man choosing to be a shitty person? Of course, if a man decides to sleep with someone he knows is crack head. He’s stupid for choosing to sleep with a crackhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:16 AM
-2

But they decided they would rather watch porn than take the time to do all that stuff. Why would they care if they were less attractive?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 03:02 AM
-2

Ouch, well you do have the option to just not be around those men don’t you?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:59 AM
1

But those guys that decide to take porn over women don’t about having sex with you. They are content with porn. How can you possibly stop people from doing what they want to do if they aren’t bothering you?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:57 AM
-5

You are 100% correct and I’m sure the guys who don’t want to interact with you and just wanna watch porn feel the same.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:55 AM
-20

Why don't they have a chance with women? Are they too lazy to get out of the basement and go to the gym/get jobs/study? Yes, those may very well be the reasons. What can you really do about it if the don’t care?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:54 AM
-3

You are beautiful women with the ability to attract with just your looks. Us men can’t control the guys who are out slinging dick picks everywhere. Isn’t the fact that you have to deal with creeps the price of beauty?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:51 AM
-13

You are beautiful women with the ability to attract with just your looks. Us men can’t control the guys who are out slinging dick picks everywhere. Isn’t the fact that you have to deal with creeps the price of beauty.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:50 AM
-1

But not all pornography is child pornography. The vast majority of men don’t like child pornography. If you think they do, can you provide evidence?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:48 AM
3

No, it's your fault for taking your dick out and inserting it into a woman. Why did you willingly open your legs if you didn’t want the D? Did you not want it? You opening you’re legs is a pretty clear sign you wanted it. Is it our fault that you want it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:46 AM
1

Lol wow, you have zero accountability woman. I can’t make you take birth control, I’d get arrested if you didn’t want to. If you know he’s a deadbeat and you still sleep with him, you suck at choosing partners. Sex doesn’t happen without you’re say so, you aren’t a defenseless child who is incapable of saying no. The same exact thing applies to men. If you believe this than you agree with me. The person with the most power is the one with the most options and that is women in this situation. Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:40 AM
-3

I’m still having trouble grasping why you women care about men you will never sleep with. Porn won’t go away so long as women continue not to give these men a shot.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:23 AM
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But so long as there are men who have no chance with women, then there will be a market for porn. This ensures it will never go away. If it makes men want do get freakier, isn’t that a consequence of not giving these men a chance?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:20 AM
0

I thought FDS don’t sleep with LVM. If nobody wants them then they are out of the SMV.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:18 AM
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The only reason it exists is because women don’t want them. So long as that’s the case, porn will never disappear.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:16 AM
0

Don’t they have the freedom to do it though? Why would they stop just because you think they should be doing something else?
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:15 AM
-1

What if they don’t care about not being repulsive to women and are satisfied with porn.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:14 AM
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It seems to make many more depraved, often seeking to sadistically abuse women in ways they have seen, such as coerced or painful anal sex, strangulation or forcing her head down deep-throat Why do you care if you don’t plan on giving these guys a chance in the first place. Porn will never disappear so long as there are men who want sex but can’t get it. If other men can be influenced by the porn the LVM enjoy, doesn’t that make it a consequence of not giving the LVM a chance.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 02:13 AM
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Then they need to except that men will naturally find them unattractive for doing so. With freedom comes responsibility for your decisions. Men shouldn’t be shamed for not wanting to date those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:09 AM
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So women opening their legs wasn’t their decision? It our fault you opened you legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:06 AM
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If he's already a deadbeat, he should keep it in his pants. If you know he’s a dead beat. Don’t open your legs. Or MAKE him wear a condom. He can’t put it in if you don’t open your legs. You have the most power in this situation so logically, you have more responsibility. Wrong. Men also have vasectomies, pull out method, spermicide or not having sex. And? Even if we didn't, and men had more, you'd still find a woman to blame women. You still have more far more options. All which are more effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:05 AM
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Then what are those LVM supposed to do. Women don’t want or care for them at all. I doubt they want to spend their time getting repeatedly rejected.
/r/askFDS16/03/20 01:49 AM
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The toxic part comes when all of their counter arguments we disproven and the turned volatile rather that just admitting they were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:47 AM
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Tell me, when dealing with a man who is a deadbeat who you want to sleep with. Which comes first. Does he penetrate you first or do you open your legs first. Also, men only have condoms, women have over 12 forms of birth control. Plus after pill, abortion, and adoption. Women may not have 100% responsibility but it definitely ain’t 50/50, y’all have should have more of it. And men are punished by the law as though they have 100% responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:37 AM
1

Indeed, the women on this post were indeed toxic. That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:04 AM
2

Tons of people answered this in the post including me, go look at those
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:03 AM
2

I was being slightly facetious. You’re a woman I’m guessing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 12:12 AM
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Not if you acquired those privileges at the expense of men. Which is exactly what things like women’s reproductive rights and job quotas have done. The iceberg is the unintended consequences of those privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:49 PM
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Hm, yeah idk about that. PUA is dying because it being shown not to work and it’s not worth the insane amount of time it takes to learn pick up techniques and try them an women. You gotta get rejected by so many women only to end up getting with very few of them. Also the money that pickup artist charge for mentoring is absolutely insane. MGTOW using PUA tactics seems weird to me as they just don’t wanna mess with women at all in order to protect themselves. I usually see them laughing at women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:44 PM
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I disagree with you there. MGTOW in no way, encourages violence. It encourages men to just not associate with women. They are definitely not redpill rejects. Where did you hear that? Incels probably do have a connection with the red pill but I equate the the rejects of FDS, femcels. Those are the women that decide to marry themselves since there are no men good enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:25 PM
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This is true but I see this as a growth in population. There’s not a single redpill man that hasn’t gone through redpill rage. It like super saiyan levels of rage. Like being told Santa doesn’t exist, you get made that everyone was in on the bid to lie to you. Some can even get stuck there. One thing TRP could improve on is how to shorten manually shorten the length of the rage phase. But we do definitely have our share of bad eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:08 PM
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It makes sense that you can’t see the bigger picture. You ladies have so many advantages and your egos are so titanic that you can’t see the iceberg your about to crash into.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:04 PM
1

I feel like the risks of pregnancy and the damage it does to men’s life will be a better than catching a whif of your own nut stank. The increased sex men will have as a result of the pill may actually encourage cleaner balls consistently. Actually the thought process might go like this. “Oh boy, my girl came over and I’m bout to tear her ass up.” “Oh shit, better not forget my pills, I don’t want no damn kids, no sir.” sniff sniff “Goddamn my nuts stank, don’t want her to smell this, I better g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:00 PM
1

That’s because it is growing. People new to it will always face the anger stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:52 PM
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FDS does indeed want women to have their expected gender roles eliminated while at the same time holding men to traditional standards. The whole “rules for thee but not for me” deal. They don’t take into account that any man, including the ones they want, will have a problem with this concept. Any man that disagrees with FDS is deemed low value scum. It is filled to the brim with hypocrisy. That might be why they ban men from all discussions. TRP does focus on developing the dominant and masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:50 PM
1

My thoughts exactly. We really shouldn’t even need a pill for men but to many women consistently “forget” to take theirs. Do you believe men are likely to make the same mistakes at the same rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:30 PM
2

It would be a good substitute for men not wanting to spend that kind of money. Plus it works for men who want to have kids later on, but would still like to consistently have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:23 PM
2

I would hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:20 PM
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In short, women are becoming tyrants and the red pill is censored for telling the truth. The toxicity shown by the women in this comment section after being proven wrong solidifies my this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:49 PM
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We are both miserable. The difference is that women caused their own misery and just drag men down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:43 PM
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I’m baffled by the amount of toxicity in this comment section, it seems like when women are proven wrong, they just go full tyrant mode. I’m not religious but the Bible might have been on to something when it mentions women. I might owe Jesus some money lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:41 PM
1

I like my Dub’s the way I like my women. Hot and consistent. Have a nice day.😁
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:15 PM
1

It’s not the rights that make us go cray cray, it the fact that you women aren’t held accountable for what you do with that freedom that pisses us off. There’s nothing strong or independent about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:09 PM
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He does have some blame to take, but the woman has way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:06 PM
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If the woman walks into a dark ally that obviously looks dangerous and is know for hosting multiple assaults, she is partly to blame. If she gets attack while innocently walking down the street then she is blameless. The difference is the chances one has to prevent the bad outcomes within reasonable bounds. Are you telling me 12 plus birth control options, after pills, telling him to wear condoms, and adoption isn’t a reasonable way to prevent things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:02 PM
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You have some blame because you didn’t take the proper measures to keep yourself safe from dead beats. Why would you sleep with a man who hasn’t proven his commitment to you. On top of that not forcing him to wear a condom. Then on top of that not using the 12 forms of birth control or the after pill. And then choosing not to put it up for adoption or aborting it. You are 100% without a doubt dodging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:56 PM
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So your saying that you are comfortable with criminals being in the military just because past civilizations did it? Should we not have women’s rights since we did that in the past too? I don’t care about old times, we have advanced to be better. Or do you not care about that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:53 PM
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You are reaching so hard. Bad men don’t care, so you need to watch for them. Don’t zebras need to be wary of lions. The lion doesn’t care for the zebras well-being so it’s on the zebras. Bad men don’t care about women so it’s on women to watch for em. Or do you wanna put that on men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:50 PM
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Listen, dead beats don’t represent men. Just like you believe gold diggers don’t represent women. You shoulda made sure he wasn’t a dead beat before jumping in the sack. A dead beat isn’t gonna care about a vasectomy, so you need to be responsible to avoid them. Quit dodging responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:45 PM
1

Murder, robbery, rape, and drugs. That kind of serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:41 PM
1

Most criminals in prison for serious offenses come from single mother house holds. Tax dollars maintain prisons. Tax dollars come from citizens. Therefore single moms (generally) raise burdens to society. What don’t you understand about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:35 PM
1

Criminals who attack their own communities aren’t warriors. Don’t insult real warriors by making such ridiculous statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:28 PM
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Yeah kick back men. It’s not like we will put you in jail for not being able to afford child support. Relax men, you are responsibility free. Dude, women get government assistance if they can’t afford child support. Don’t tell me they are taking responsibility if the are not at risk of dealing with consequences. And pregnancy is a choice the woman makes while forcing the man to pay, it is not 50/50 at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:25 PM
1

Single moms raise the most criminals. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:22 PM
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Nonsensical argument. If society ran like this, you could be victim of robbery and it would be your responsibility for not effectively safeguarding against all possibilities even if you tried like most women try. Lol my argument is nonsensical. Tell me, if i decide not to put any locks on my house and leave the door wide open while living in a dense population area, and someone breaks into my house. Am I not stupid for taking no measures to secure my home. The robber is to blame but do you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:17 PM
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Do you have examples of this. I can’t think of a responsibility that is expected of women that men don’t also have off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:43 PM
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Lol omg this is why men say if women led society it would fall. If you want evidence of how bad things can get if we maintain our current coarse then look at the state of the UK and countries in the EU. If you don’t see the problem of a declining population and increased immigration then I’m wasting my time talking to you about such matters. You have a nice day ma’am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:41 PM
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See my reply to the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:20 PM
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The mental image that formed was hilarious. Thank you. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:20 PM
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I’ll give you an example. Since women have all the reproductive rights and men have none. Women have the final say on whether or not babies are born. Since that is the case, the rise in single motherhood is the fault of women. Since you are the gatekeepers of sex, it is your responsibility to be careful of who you let inside you. But since women aren’t expected to take responsibility, you blame the men. Even while having over 12 different types of birth control and men only have condoms. Men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:19 PM
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Kinda like how it’s always seen as suspect for any man to be seen anywhere around kids. Blame the media for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:05 PM
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No you’re completely wrong. The real issue is that female empowerment gives power to women, without the responsibility. This actually allows women to exploit men with the full backing of the law and society. Anyone with power and no responsibility becomes a tyrant, no exceptions. Shoulda listened to Uncle Ben.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:03 PM
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Why should women be forced into poverty when they can make their own independent finances ? Makes absolutely no sense. What do you propose happens? In America you will not force women to be with undesirable men that they do not find attractive. Period . What is your issue? When did I ever suggest any of those things. None of what I said ever even suggested any solutions, I just pointed out the problems. You got emotional while writing this and misrepresented me. However it doesn't mean that soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:55 PM
1

You completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. There is nothing natural about the current state of the sexual marketplace and the relationship market place. Laws and ineffective societal biases are destroying those marketplaces. Women want equality yet still expect men to be traditional while the laws impose traditional standards on men with women having complete freedom. You are just sitting in the middle of a burning building and pretending everything is fine. I can understand why thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 02:14 PM
1

You are speaking in a subjective sense. I’m talking about women in general. I’ll give you the answer. Women wouldn’t just be happy and content because all men are high quality. They would just raise their standards even more, so now instead just picking one of the amazing men, they would turn their attention to the best of the amazing men. Essentially viewing the amazing men as normal men, even though by normal standards, they would be high quality. That’s unrestricted hypergamy and it’s what is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:38 PM
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It relates to the point I’m trying to make. It isn’t to help me, it’s to try to get others to understand. I never said women shouldn’t look at the whole package. Will you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:31 PM
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They won’t except men with potential for acquiring resources not being an option for them to fall on. This is because they still want to use those men they don’t plan to sex for resources.(friendzone) Of course they wouldn’t admit this because if most men knew they would be disgusted. So even if these women don’t like these men at all, they will always call them losers for not WANTING to pursue women. They don’t wanna give up any options. That includes the options they are least likely to take. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:28 PM
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Well women don’t look at only genetics when considering relationships. They look at what resources a man brings to the table. Those things include wealth, status, intelligence, and humor. Good genetics just make things easier. What if all men were great by those standards? How do you think women would go about choosing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:20 PM
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Ok. Imagine this, what if all men in the world were amazing. If all women already want only the best men, how do you believe things would pan out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:06 PM
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Well yeah, don’t know why your mentioning that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:53 AM
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Are you talking about sex? If so that is not true because you don’t do yourself the same way you do others. If that’s not what you mean then you should phrase you statment better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:28 AM
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This is Purple Pill Debate, not the Useless Opinion Community. If your not going to defend your opinion then it is of no value to anyone but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:07 AM
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I don't think this is true at all. I'd say women tend to forget previous partners - especially the sex. That just isn’t true generally. Women tend to look for men who are equal to or better than them.(they prefer better) They judge quality more harshly. And they use their past experiences to judge current once a lot more critical than men do. This applies since women usually have a mountain of preferences and higher standards compared to men. Men are nowhere near the same, we don’t judge as hars…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:45 AM
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I think this might be male projection. It’s possible that it could be projection. But women in generally compare their current partners to their previous one more often than men. This really kinda makes what I said seem plausible. If a man had sex with a model, he'd find sex/relationships with ordinary women unsatisfactory? That is female projection right there. I’m not denying that it happens. But in a general sense, men don’t find other women unsatisfactory after having a high quality one. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:26 PM
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Men are willing to wait til marriage provided they are looking for relationships. A woman who can resist the temptation to “explore” the many options she has is very attractive relationship wise. That attitude changes once he finds out that she smashed other men without having them jump through the hoops he’s expected to jump through in the present. The knowledge of a high body count makes her unattractive to the man in terms of relationships and he reverts to just wanting sex. If all women foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:48 PM
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What do you mean by that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:13 PM
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Not “more than” equally. That’s what it means to care about someone. They are taking responsibility for themselves because they can and will handle things themselves but then if they do, they’d be justified in making the claim that you don’t care. It’d be an accurate statement. If you didn’t take the initiative to see what they need and be there for them they’ll feel neglected. If they have to spoon feed everything directly to you they’ll feel like they’re forcing you to care about their problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:36 PM
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⁠>By paying attention to what type of person they are. I’ve had friends and one boyfriend do this but I’ve seldom ever been accused of being “uncaring” because I pay attention to previous behavior and non verbal cues to figure out what “type” they are. I use this to try and empathize and figure out what they need. If you’ve been dating or friends for a while typically you’ll have other opportunities to see how they express themselves. You basically putting responsibility for how you feel on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:32 PM
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Don’t blame Chad, he’s just doin him. If you had his options you’d do the same. Its the fact that men tolerate this hoe positive attitude we have towards sex. Bring back slut shaming!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:15 PM
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Not if you wanna raise kids. Don’t really care in any other sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:03 PM
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Then having experienced Chad, women will find every guy that isn’t Chad unsatisfactory. They then resort to using men and walking atms, giving him sex only serves the purpose of keeping the cash flow alive. My boy Chad done fucked the commitment outta these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:02 PM
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Sometimes the woman does say it but if the guy honestly believes he wasn’t being neglectful or that there isn’t a problem he’ll express this and nothing will change long term. But what about the times women don’t say it? I don’t think this is gender specific. I have make and female friends that do this and it’s typically for 2 reasons. ⁠They want you to keep asking repeatedly or in intervals while being very affectionate. ⁠They need some time to process what happened and you can come back later …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:55 PM
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Go back to FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:01 PM
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With the first one many women do that to see if the guy is a traditional or modern gentleman if he’s even one at all. What’s the difference between a modern and traditional gentleman. I’ve mostly known girls to do that when they felt emotionally neglected and they want their boyfriend to reaffirm his love and attraction to her. As men we are taught to approach all situations practically, as that is the most efficient way to solve most issues we face. So we are confused when women end whole relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:20 PM
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Guys who use alpha-beta typically pretend that women decide the alpha abd betas There will always be a difference in how everyone describes an alpha. The one true verifiable thing people can use to determine alpha status is the result. If women consistently fall for him, he is at least considered for alpha status. If he isn’t successful in his attempts with women, no one considers even suggesting he could be alpha. This means that women do greatly influence that. I would say 60/40 women=60. If n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:20 PM
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Alpha male can be interpreted in many different ways.m and can change depending on the state of society. To say they have nothing to do with women isn’t true. The common trait everyone associates with alphas is that the get a lot of women. Women, by being attracted in the first place, are involved in determining woh is and isn’t an alpha male. Also, who doesn’t fantasize about what they want. You say that as if women don’t fantasize about the life they want and the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:13 AM
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I would say it mostly stems from people being raised to think men and women are the same and capable of the same things. Monogamous marriage is in danger because women have an unfair advantage in that area. A woman’s wealth, status, and custody of kids isn’t in danger, which gives them freedom to act out of pocket. A woman can cheat or ask for a divorce for bs reasons and actually gain instead of lose. Men cannot do any of that because he stands to lose everything because of the biased courts. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:21 AM
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I blame the unsupervised sexual freedom women have. This wouldn’t be that bad if it wasn’t for the weak men that are born and raised in the current gynocentric western society. These weak men don’t hold women responsible for the mistakes they make with the freedom they now have. Mistakes like single motherhood and promiscuity(which lower a woman’s commitment value to high value men) are praised and encouraged, which shouldn’t be the case because there is nothing to be proud of about those things…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:53 AM
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Do you mean like observing and ascribing meaning to a mans behavior without him knowing? Like seeing if he’ll pull out your chair for you, hold your door etc. No, but a woman does use the expectation of a man to pull a chair for her as a shit test. If he does, she may think he is kind of a push over because push overs do the same thing. But he could also just be doing it to be nice. So she would apply more shit tests like seeing if he will open the door without being told to or seeing if he's wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:32 AM
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A shit test is a woman’s instinctual urge to test her man’s masculinity. Women become masters of this as they mature and men are generally unaware of the methods women use to shit test them. Men who are aware of this are usually men who are greatly experienced with women or those who subscribed to TRP. Men who are aware usually find them annoying and intolerable because most of the methods women use come off as vindictively manipulative. From a man’s perspective, a shit test is just a way for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:07 AM
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Because they can still get what they naturally want, that being commitment from the best of men. The little amount of consequences allow for a large room for error.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:00 PM
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Your right, men are naturally polygamous. But relationship laws and females pickiness do a good job keeping that in check.(too good imo) Women are naturally monogamous but in today’s society are encouraged to act polygamous since there are very little consequences for it now. If you line up 6 HVM in front of a woman. She will most likely chose the best one and have him commit. If you line up 6 beautiful women in front of a man and he’s unrestrained by laws and all those women would like to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:47 PM
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The difference is that men will go for women who are equal or better in the looks department. Women generally want better in the money department. I believe the genders treat the concept of settling differently. Where men are generally happy with it and women feel like they shouldn’t have to do it and do it begrudgingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:37 PM
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Yes you do. Women are having more casual sex than ever. There are articles and tv programs encouraging women to enjoy their choices aka hoe around. Not mad about it, more hoes means more sex for HVM without relationships. And men not sleeping with those women can focus on themselves over women. Which eventually make the HVM in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:40 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:28 PM
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Shit tests are born of constant insecurity for women’s choices in men. You shit test him to remind yourself you chose correctly. Women easily lose confidence in their decision, that’s why they frequently shit test. The more frequent the shit test, the more insecure the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:19 PM
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Looks wise women are generally better looking than men and have cosmetics and other advantages that men don’t have. So men aren’t worried about women looking better than them because most women already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:56 PM
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It stops when you decide that what you have is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:50 PM
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Man they really jumped out the bushes to gas light you but then when you come with the facts suddenly they ghost haha. Wouldn’t it be simple common sense to come to the conclusion that the group with the most chances to cheat would statistically do it more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:41 PM
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Very informative, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:24 PM
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Wait, can a lesbian can sleep with a man and still be a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:19 PM
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Makes sense now why less men are bisexual compared to women. There’s not much of a point, it relates back to women preferring decisive men. Men have to decisively choose to be gay or straight. Do you think some gay men find it less attractive if they find out a man was dominant in the past with a woman? I’m leaning towards no but my knowledge on gay/bi culture is limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:28 PM
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Less single dudes commenting on PPD since they’ll be busy pounding them robotic cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:18 PM
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If she withholds it from one man but gives it to another without making them jump through the same hoops as the first man then yes. If she were truly a virgin or something and not having sex at all during the dating faze then no. Those types of women are very few nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:12 PM
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Almost as if there isn’t a whole field called psychology saying that the human mind isn’t always (actually almost never) straight forward. It’s very hard for me as a man to sympathize with that. I live in a world where as a man, I’m held to the highest standard and left almost no room for mistakes. Women wanted equality and wanted to be treated like men. You got what you wished for and are now held to the same standard as men. You have not been in the position of being a woman asked to perform d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:48 AM
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There are men who come to the conclusion of hatred. But TRP by no means encourages it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:36 AM
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I don’t understand these arguments people propose. Like “what if that was your sister?” or “would you say that about your mother?” As if it make sense to compare my mom and sister to every other woman in the world. No other woman in the world gave birth to me and no other woman in the world is my sister so of course we treat them differently compared to other women. It’s annoying how people try to lay claim to the thing my family member have done just because they share the same genitalia. I als…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:33 AM
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I put and edit on the post saying that instead of justified, I mean that it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:14 AM
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Already seen it. Doesn’t change my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:12 AM
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Well I did state the reason. Do you disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:05 AM
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Just because you ask someone if they’re ok, doesn’t mean they are. I mean do some of the things women endure in porn look pleasurable, comfortable or even pain free? Well people aren’t mind readers. It’s your responsibility as a human being to clearly state to someone that you are uncomfortable, nobody else’s. How is anyone supposed to know you suffer if you keep it to yourself. You also seem to forget that women do porn for money. They deemed that those unpleasurable acts were worth it for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:03 AM
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My OP is just meant to explain why men aren’t slut shamed. I made the post this way because people frequently compare the sexes in this regard when it doesn’t make sense to compare them due to the huge differences I pointed out. Ik women get slut shamed but my post just explains why it happens, not the ethics of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:45 AM
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Well, nobody shames geniuses for that as well. Well yeah, they’re already being praised. I don’t understand the purpose of pointing that out. Sluts congratulate each other on the fact that they are capable of going against the flow, ignoring the stigma. So we agree then. You’re right, most people would fold under the pressure of slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:35 AM
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So porn in excess isn’t healthy. I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. The problem I see most people having with it is that they believe it is the root cause of dysfunctional relationships. I see it as more of a way to cope with relationships being in the dirt. It seems like you are heavily underestimating men’s ability to settle for thing that aren’t the best. Most men will be just fine with not having the girl of their dreams. They won’t turn down most women because they don’t look like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:24 AM
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So defend the violence if you want to side with porn. cracks knuckles Some men get their rocks off to women who like being willingly degraded. If anything unwilling is going on, rest assured that most men wouldn’t approve of it and would have any production company doing such things terminated. The actors in those videos sign contracts, are given scripts and know what they are getting into. Watch behind the scenes during production, everyone always asks if the women are ok between cuts. If women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:35 AM
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True, the problem women have is when men they normally would date would rather consume porn than be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:23 AM
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Well geniuses don’t congratulate other geniuses for solving a task a non genius finds hard. Non geniuses will praise geniuses for solving tasks non geniuses find hard. Humans will always admire other humans who do things they themselves find difficult. Idk where you got the idea of me wanting to shame people for doing easy stuff, I never suggested that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 09:05 AM
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A women will rarely sleep with a man she find unattractive, unless she’s in a situation were she’s forced to settle. Which is a situation young women rarely find themselves in. I suppose if promiscuous women ever did sleep with unattractive men on a large scale then yeah she would be heros to other women. But that isn’t the case, women have a problem with promiscuous women because they sleep with the men other women want. They devalue the bargaining chip women use to get commitment. If a man can…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:55 AM
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He has a point, dead bedroom are very common and it’s usually the women who cause them by not wanting to have sex with their husbands. But if those same guys were to watch porn , their wives would complain even tho they don’t wanna sack them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:45 AM
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Everyone bitches, if women get to constantly bitch about men then men should be able to bitch about women. Perfectly balance, as all things should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:40 AM
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He used it as a hypothetical to illustrate how pointless it would be if we outlawed violent prom. Women would just complain about the next thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:26 AM
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How does a high N count in a woman translate to good communication. It’s not like she is expected to be articulate to get laid. Your trying to equate men and women in this regard and it simply doesn’t work. Men don’t NEED women to be good in bed because men are willing to teach them. Most women aren’t willing to deal with a man who isn’t already up to their preferred skill level in the sack. They are not willing to teach me, it’s a turn off to them. High N Count men who are a bad lay are not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:47 AM
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Guys will still ask to take it off or even slip it off themselves without asking. Many women have experienced this, just so you’re aware. If a guy asks to take it off you have the power to say no, if you say yes that's a mistake in your judgement. Guys who take their condoms off without the knowledge of the woman are scum. Those men are shamed and disparaged as they should be. Don't even try to make it sound like those men make up the majority of accidental pregnancies. ​ And also - just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:38 AM
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They only feel annoyed when the guys they don’t want try to step. Believe me, they love the attention and admiration. It’s only an annoyance because it’s abundant. When it starts to fade they switch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:22 AM
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That’s what frustrates me the most - that the onus is always on the woman to protect herself from men and not on men to be better people. I dont agree with that. Men already make up a vast majority of police, firefighters, soldiers, and security guards. We are already in charge of yours and everyone else's safety. Net tax payers are men, child support payers are men, alimony is payed mostly by men, governing is run run by mostly men. Men are always held responsible for everything. Women are rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:18 AM
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"it’s automatically the mans fault, for everything" Says who? Who's in charge of that? And if his performance is bad, surely that should be the man's responsibility? I'll use the example of abortion to answer that. I will not argue it's morals as that is not the topic. When the abortion rate and things like accidental pregnancies are brought up. What is it you hear most often. You hear things like, "Why didn't you wear a condom" and "how about learn to keep it in your pants" or "She wouldn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:02 AM
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The virgin quality is only valued in the context of an LTR. Promiscuous women are more attractive to men who just wanna get laid. They ruin the market for other women because if men get what they want right off the bat, they have no incentive to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:18 AM
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Being hot also includes fitness. If he’s tall then it make things a little easier. Keep in mind that even though men don’t control their height, women still put a lot of value on it. He would still have to be a decent talker, be intelligent, be successful. He would have to meet that woman’s specific standard, which he won’t know about until he make the attempt. So add the anxiety of rejection to the things men deal with weather he is hot or not. Chads still have to work to stay Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:54 PM
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I can give you the benefit of the doubt. But like I said, you are an exception. Your friends would be exceptions too since people are friend with people they share qualities with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:31 PM
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I agree, in terms of seeking sex, slut are more attractive. The give what men wan in the most time efficient manner. Very logical statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:23 PM
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Your situation is very unique then because most women don’t run into the high class men you describe. If you are being truthful then you are an exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:59 PM
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You do realize that it’s impossible to talk about a group of people without using some form of generalization right? And you also realize that a generalization doesn’t me 100% right? I would hope you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:56 PM
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Did any of those HVM commit to you long term? HVM only care about your body count when they consider commitment. No man gives a damn when it comes to just sleeping with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:45 PM
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I said ATTRACTIVE MEN. But hey if you think r/niceguys are attractive that's your opinion. Different strokes for different folks ig. Ask any guy, women do not make their wants clear, you use hints instead of being straight. Sure there are some who are straight up like men are but they are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:28 PM
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how about all the women who go the extra mile to make sure they wear his favorite perfume, do their hair the way the like, wear that little dress he finds so desirable. That stuff doesnt happen during the courting faze. How do you know what I like if i just approached you or we are on a first, second, or third date. We are BOTH expected to look good when we first present ourselves. I'm tired of women acting like only they try to look good for dates. Like i don't pay for my nice clothes, my shoes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:22 PM
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Thanks for that less than charitable interpretation of my opinion. What work does a women put in when it comes to courtship? And what judgments do men pass on women besides their body count and weight? I’m not gonna let you get away with making vague statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 08:52 PM
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Lol Nah you just NEED me to be upset so that you don’t feel wack for sounding ridiculous with all that verbal diarrhea you just tried to serve me. But that “wind” blew that diarrhea back in you face and now you got doo doo breath. Miss me with them mind games girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:55 PM
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No lol, I wrote this so people would try to change my view in an attempt to learn something new. If you had enough sense to read the flair you’d know that. Your comment is tired and boring, just another female who thinks she knows shit, trying to devalue someone’s opinions just cause she thinks her coochie is made of gold. At the end of the day, bummy women like you are the ones crying. Keep coping lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:47 PM
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Lmao are you trying to say that you know what turn me on better than I do. That hilarious omfg. You sound so proud about knowing how our lizard brains work, as though that’s something difficult to figure out, if you need college for that girl, yous in trouble. Holy crap that’s funny, you can just ask a guy what turns him on, he won’t be shy. Same ain’t true for a women, we gotta already know or figure it out. Ain’t got a problem with that but we ain’t equal on this one boo. This is exactly what …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:39 PM
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It is. The proof is all of the people that came to comment saying that I shouldn’t slut shame. Anti slut shaming is at an all time high. Which definitely means slut shaming is at an all time low.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:24 PM
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It’s been so long....since I’ve seen another logical person.....in these comment threads. faints from exhaustion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:09 PM
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Makeup helps sure, but are you really gonna tell me that most guys will turn women down over it. Gtfo I have enough real life evidence to throw your comment out the window if that’s what your saying. Guess what, if we end up getting with you, we gon be seeing that bare face whenever we wake up next to you. You really think we don’t know about that? You ever see a man dump a girl because she didn’t have her makeup on while chilling in the house or when it gets messed up during sex. And I definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:07 PM
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You’re making assumptions. I never said people do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Do you know what it takes to motivate people to lose weight, because it definitely isn’t body positivity. All that does is encourage people’s bad habit. Also recognize that even so much as mentioning someone’s weight comes off as rude to most people and would be classified as fat shaming anyway. This is straying from the topic so try to get back on track with your responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:00 PM
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Now that you mention it, that is weird. I think the expectations change depending on the gender. I also don’t know that much about lesbian culture because I never needed to. Like is there a large amount of lesbians that expect to be paid for? Are there many that wanna consistently split? How do you decide who approaches for courting. I think it’s just a whole different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:52 PM
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I hope you aren’t insinuating that I’m bitching. Just because I bring up a certain topic doesn’t mean I’m bitter or anything. I do agree that men can be jealous and that those men aren’t the ones getting female attention. I only bring this up because I see many women wondering why male promiscuity isn’t treated nearly the same as female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:47 PM
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What is there that guys don’t tell women tho. We don’t hide much of anything in a general sense. Men don’t get fussy btw. Being fussy isn’t what attractive men do. They adapt and overcome to get what they want. In my opinion it’s women that don’t communicate well. For example, they want a man that’s nice but not too nice. What’s too nice? What’s not nice enough? A girl won’t tell you, she expects you to read her mind or just know. It’s not like what men want is complicated, women make it complic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:30 PM
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I’m not necessarily say women should be shamed as a standard. At least that’s not what I’m trying to argue. It’s just that male and female promiscuity is often compared and people say they should receive equal treatment. I’m not arguing for shaming, I’m just explaining why men don’t get shamed and why they do get praise. Beautiful women aren’t being shamed, it neutral treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:15 PM
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They’re getting used like napkins. Ik for a fact these women feel good in the moment. But they don’t feel good about the fact that their number just increased. They just try to forget it. Any woman will have fun so long as they are young and beautiful, but after that fades, idk about that. They still get laid but the emotional harm is something fierce. In my experience that’s the case at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:11 PM
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Idk depends on what he really wants
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:06 PM
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Did you just compare women to athletes? Nobody notices a naturally athletic person until they DO something. Same with any talent. If I’m a great runner, nobody will notice if I work in a cubicle everyday. You would maybe have a point if women were expected to approach men, then they’d be doing something. But they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:03 PM
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My bad, sent you the wrong reply
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:56 PM
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Yeah quit assuming things and just challenge my view. Never asked nor wanted sympathy. In fact I enjoy the fact that getting laid ain’t easy for guys. Just stated the facts. If you aren’t going to change my view then why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:45 PM
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Oh boy, what guys are into on an individual level isn’t something I can speak for. We a VERY decisive when it comes to thing we like and don’t like. I can speak in a general sense. Most men want young submissive women with good sex drives. Beyond that and what people be doing in the sack is up to them. Women will have to pull some Houdini level magic to get men to explore things we aren’t comfortable with. We are VERY stubborn in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:43 PM
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It’s not men complaining most of the time tho, it y’all. You the ones complaining that you ain’t getting commitment and saying we need to “grow up.” We fine fuckin sluts. We just answering your questions. I’m guessing your going to call me an incel because you have no proper argument right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:36 PM
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Rapist and killers get punished. Men suffer from those assholes too. Being wrong about promiscuity matters if you know how to stay on topic. Miss me with that redirect attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:32 PM
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Oh really, then explain the many articles out there talking about “where have all the good men gone.” You telling me a 600lb women is natural? What work do you put in to look good? What, makeup and not overeating. No man asked you to put on makeup. No man is like “Hold up bitch, is that Summer nail polish?” and then nexts her. Don’t bring you nonsense near me heathen!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:31 PM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:21 PM
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anything that involves chicks being wrong about something or getting them to accept responsibility for their bad decisions. Is always going to be hard as hell. I’m not even saying that to be rude, it’s a genuine struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:20 PM
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I hope he keeps his wife in check. She be outta pocket sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:16 PM
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Is you gon add anything useful.... or nah. I’m assuming nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:15 PM
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Never specifically said they are hard, they are just part of a list of thing you need to have. And whatever you lack, u use more of the other traits to compensate. What’s harder than those this is acquiring status and success. That’s why you de hideous men with pretty women. He’s doing something right and it’s not just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:14 PM
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So you mean to tell me nobody uses the anger of being made fun of to help motivate them to push through the pain of working out. Must be a guy thing then. Or people have become incredibly soft as of late. Keep in mind that people broaden the definition of fat shaming to even include constructive criticism. It’s seen as rude to mention that someone is too fat, why is that a thing. Fat shaming is like bitter medicine, you don’t like it but you need it. People don’t like doing what it takes to be d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:12 PM
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I suppose in that sense you are right lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:07 PM
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I already said they aren’t the benchmark, they don’t represent men in general. Admitted I don’t have data to support this, as doing a study on such thing would be difficult and not all that reliable considering that it would be very trust based and I believe many control groups would lie to save face, even if anonymous. I can totally admit that they are very bias but the reason I believe a lot of their arguments hold water is from my personal experience with women. I hold nothing personal toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:06 PM
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That would be a very tough thing for men to accept. Men generally have narrow conservative view of things. That’s why you don’t hear about men making out just to try it. It why men have a very defined line when it comes to their sexuality. That’s just how we are, we like what we like ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:59 PM
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I personally blame the huge amount of simp men for this. Men don’t act outta pocket because of all the different contingencies for the male horn. Nobody tolerates bad behavior in men. But women proved they can’t handle the freedom they have because of their inability to accept responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:39 PM
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Divorce rates seem lower because marriage rates are in decline. I never claimed they were the benchmark. The growing attempts at censoring also sho that someone is worried about what they have to say. Notice how r/TRP is quarantined but FDS is up and running. Those are just examples. They have also spread to other platforms like tiktok. They really are growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:29 PM
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Women should quit going for fuckbois then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:25 PM
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A virgin man is a deal breaker for many women. Women overwhelmingly value a man who is good in the sack. Tell me, how does one get good in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:24 PM
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Not true, women show more interest in men with high body counts since the want guys who are great in bed. Women reward that behavior. Quit blaming men for women’s mistakes. They should make better choices in the men they choose to sleep with. It’s seriously annoying how women want all the freedom but non of the responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:21 PM
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Well that view exist because women are cheating, divorcing, and are more unhappy than ever. This means they don’t think the men they date ended up not being HVM. Manosphere is comprised of men with first hand experience with that stuff. Their growing numbers is worth the questioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:17 PM
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Ahh, I think men who can get what other women struggle to get will always be praised. It’ll stay like that so long as women continue to like men who are good in bed. No changing that. The thing is that women don’t do anything in that field.(courting) They get their praise when their relationships last long and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:11 PM
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Then ig we just disagree completely on this. It may be because we have different definitions for HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:06 PM
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And you don't live in the real world. Your way of thinking doesnt solve issues, just creates them. Keep your verbal diarrhea to your self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:55 PM
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By male reproduction do you mean just sex or having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:53 PM
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If thats true, then why do women across the board lie about their body counts? Also the men who do commit to high body count women get frequently cheated on. The chances are higher, so it makes sense. It only seems like HVM date more "sluts" because very few women have low body counts or lie about it. Men usually lie about how high their body count is. How many virgins or low body count women do you know, and would you say they have a hard time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:52 PM
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Wait, why would straight men care about anything lesbiens are doing. I agree that your reasons for slut shaming make sense and I would say they are part of the overall view towards promiscuous women, along with the ones I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:44 PM
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I wouldn't say they're super concerned. The manosphere encourages men to not get in relationships at all. Just answering the women complaining that the men they do want won't commit or "Where have all the good men gone." They point out the different ways women put themselves in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:39 PM
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as a general rule just stop passing judgement. Lol least I'm not a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:36 PM
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Hey, I'm not the one blaming women here. I never claimed all men were anything. Don't push your assumptions onto me, I might have to report you to HR. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:29 PM
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Dude Niceee. JK thats just my personal opinion, you dont have to like it and I dont force it on anyone. I just want to talk about the OP. Would appreciate it if you wouldnt stand on your moral high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:24 PM
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You can not like it all you want. If women don't like self centered assholes, why do women constantly end up with them. I swear every girl thinks her ex is an asshole, you rarely hear them say they are still cool with their ex. That says a lot about womens taste in men more. That asshole is just being himeself, why do so may women gravitate towards him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:22 PM
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That is not true in a general sense. Just because you are an exception to the rule, it doesnt mean the rule is null and void. Women won't say they want a guy with high body count but they do say they want a man who is good in the sack. Tell me, how does one become good in the sack?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:18 PM
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Who said I didn't? I just said I wasn't mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:11 PM
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It doesn't apply to men because women hate virgins and think they are losers. This isnt man's making its women's. Maybe if women accepted the consequences of their decisions we'd hear less complaints. Or if they didnt value men with high body counts so much, then the double standard wouldnt exist. Among all of the habits miserable women partake in, promiscuity is usually on the list. And the only one who controls how promiscuous women are is women. Men got no hand in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:07 PM
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What did I say to make you think that?Lol I'm not mad at anyone, If you wanna sleep around go ahead, doesn't affect me in any way. In fact I benefit from it by getting easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:03 PM
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Yes dear....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:59 PM
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Just because you dont see it, doesnt mean its not true. I'm just a man describing what its like to be a guy. We have to put effort in to get laid, you dont, that simple. This is true because as a man, I have to deal with women in dating more than you. So how bout you quit telling me my experiances are wrong because you dont go through them. Seem kinda bigoted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:58 PM
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Im not justifying shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:54 PM
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Listen, high value men will have sex with you. Every guy will want to have sex with you. Because men love young beautiful women. HVM want low body count women not to sleep with but to commit to. You need to understand that just because a man will sleep with you, doesnt mean he will commit. We are not the same as women. We dont have to like you to sleep with you. We can hate your guts and still blow your back out. Ever heard of hatesex? Women have to like a man to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:52 PM
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By virgins I mean low body count women. Sorry for not clarifying. Women mostly get neutrality up until the want commitment. Then men bite back because they don't date sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:42 PM
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I personally believe the shaming is something a person needs, not necessarily wants. But thats just my personal opinion. I agree with everything else tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:40 PM
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Your free to think its stupid, its an opinion after all. But my OP still stands. Male and female promiscuity are to different to be compare, the double standard is fair in my. I don't see how it isnt because the amount of effort required is worthy of praise. A man who gets a lot of girls is really funny, beautiful, high status/wealthy, or a mixture of those things. None of that is required for a woman to get laid. Most sluts nowaday are treated with neutrality anyway, men just dont commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:38 PM
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Some want praise, some want neutrality. But men and women are often compared in this regard when they shouldn't. Because what men and women find attractive arent similar. Men like virgins, girls like studs. Different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:33 PM
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You'd be suprised at how many people find that hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:30 PM
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No, women should learn to keep it in their pants so that they don't devalue themselves by sleeping with a bad guy. Again, quit trying to blame us for your mistakes. We can't be treated the same on this issue because men and womens intrests arent equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:29 PM
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I just explained it. It relates to sluts because some female sluts believe they are no different from male sluts and should be treated with the same praise/neutrality as male sluts. They get clowned for that opinion. If you still don't get what I mean then idk how to better explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:24 PM
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That is incredibly uncommon, I've never seen that. If that does happen then those guys are dicks. People just mostly leave you alone to do your thing cause everyones there for the same reason. I've can see people being too scared to go because they expect to be made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:21 PM
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But let's be honest. A 90 N count man is far less common than 90 N count woman. A man has to be a rock star to get that many women. A woman just has to say yes. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:15 PM
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Some female sluts believe they are no different from male sluts. They get clowned for that opinion. From what I've seen at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:12 PM
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But they arent shamed when they're in the gym. Being fat is one thing, staying fat is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:08 PM
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Nope, men will take sex if offered. Women are praised for their ability to resist tempting situations. Don't go down this route of blaming men for females sluttiness. We don't encourage it the way women do, and we arent the gatekeepers of sex. Sex only happens if a woman says so, so y'all have the power. With great power comes great responsibility. So if a woman decides to become a slut, thats on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:07 PM
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Common sense. If sluts go and sleep with all of the men, it devalues the value of sex to a man. Making him less willing to commit. One of the big reasons men get girlfriends is easier sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:02 PM
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My OP just states that men and women sluts arent the same. What you stated is just another way to blame men for women's choices. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. With great power comes great responsibility. You decide whether sex happens or not so you are in control of who enters you. We should really just stop blaming men for women's mistakes. Women should learn to say no and learn self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:59 PM
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Yeah, not what I meant in the OP though, thats just my personal belief
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:48 PM
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I do believe that but that's not what I'm arguing nor what I really want to discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:46 PM
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This is woman stuff I as a man can't sympathize with. As a man, nobody gives a crap if we're sad, we just adapt and overcome. I suppose the difference in our thinking is exactly why both a father and a mother are improtant. Dad teaches you how to deal with the hardships of the world. Mom gives you the love and nurturing you need so you dont depend on the system and the rules and others for it. People will be mean regardless, nothing we can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:44 PM
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Name calling instead of an argument got it. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:39 PM
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All i can tell you is that good men don't commit to slut. Because of this, slut end up miserable and become even bigger sluts. Women become sluts by choice, that choice negatively affects them. Humans criticize bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:37 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:33 PM
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I guess men and women view this differently. Best I can do is give you an example. When a man grows up after being bullied in high school, he didnt like the bullying but acknowledges how the situation made him strong and prepared him for the assholes he has to deal with in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:32 PM
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I didnt say women struggle. Men do care about hotness, we just don't have the same competence standards as women. Women who can handle themselves are cool but it doesn't effect our attraction to you in the way you thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:29 PM
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Humans wasnt the right word to use. Thx for the correction. It is only bad when women do it because the most miserable of them always have a very active sex life while the ones who arent promiscuous seem happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:24 PM
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What would you say is the “easy route”. As a man I can’t see one beside prostitution. I would say the reasons they are shamed are subconscious. It always turns out that the most miserable women have a very active sex life and the ones who aren’t seem happier. I won’t speak on gay culture as I’m not familiar with it. I can only speak for heterosexual culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:21 PM
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Yeah the guys who aren’t those things ain’t getting girls. You really just wanted to diss men with that statement. Lol And yeah, as men, we don’t care about your job or accomplishments because when something needs to get done, we will handle it if the woman can’t. We can do that and be happy. Women have a hard time with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:14 PM
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Agreed, female sluts hurt women’s chances with good men. Male sluts chances get better. I’m arguing that the double standard has good reason to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:11 PM
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We don’t shame specifically to help people. For example, if I make fat jokes at the expense of a fat person, that would be a strong motivator for them to get in shape. Not the only motivator, but a big one. Whether it’s nice or not doesn’t matter, they got in shape to stop the insults and shut people up. So in the end, it did help. You only think it’s wrong because it’s mean. That’s a weak reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:07 PM
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What I’m saying is that men and women aren’t on the same level in regards to promiscuity. The quality of women matters of course. You not a stud if all you do is bang fat chicks.If a man were using sex workers he’s not a stud. Idk why you would even bring sex workers up, that’s not even what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:04 PM
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Let me clarify then. Men are praised for being slut because they work hard. I never even mentioned female shaming. My point is that men deserve the praise they get and shouldn’t be compared to women in regards to promiscuity. Now do me a favor and clearly state what you disagree with because I may have misunderstood the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:00 PM
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You should be in good shape for yourself and your health. Your man comes second to that. If you are unhealthy, you lose on three fronts. Your self esteem, your health, and your man all run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:56 PM
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The word slut is a general insult. If I hate a bitch bad enough, I’ll call her a slut. Not because she is one but because I don’t like her. What you describe is people using those words as general insults. Women do indeed virgin shame by saying stuff like “girl you are missing out” or “your such a goody two shoes.” Very few men would next a woman for being a virgin. It’s women who encourage men to be sluts. Men just acknowledge that he is successful with women and act accordingly to be successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:53 PM
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Slutty behavior among women is a bad behavior. Humans shame bad behavior. It’s deemed bad behavior because humans generally want LTR’s at some point in their lives. Idk what else to tell ya. Sluts do indeed destroy the SMP. They do that more often because shaming as a deterrent is not common anymore. There’s more sluts because society foolishly deemed it ok to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:43 PM
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Many people think male and female sluts are equal. I’m simply saying they aren’t. Women don’t want to be praised because it’s a simple thing to do. But they see men getting praised and think it’s unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:38 PM
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I don’t think men ever just become slut. This is because a man will never get laid consistently just because he has a dick. But a woman will get laid consistently just because she has a vagina. I believe difficulty is a huge factor. Women don’t understand why sex is so important to a man because for them, they don’t have to try hard to get it. Lower value men turn into high value men in the eyes of women if he consistently gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:36 PM
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Don’t like Jim very much but he’s right on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:28 PM
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Lol you don’t have to care about my opinion. I’ll have an opinion if I want to. Either try to change it or get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:26 PM
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We don’t shame anyone for doing easy things, we shame people who expect praise for doing easy things. The OP talks about people who think male and female sluts are on the same level. They are not. You second paragraph is not true at all. Men will sleep with almost anyone if they’re welcome to. It take some supremely messed up stuff to creep a man out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:23 PM
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Slut shaming is necessary because the more bodies she adds to her belt, the less desirable she is to high value men. It hurts her chances of finding a LTR. That’s why many women lie about their body count, they know on a subconscious level that that info won’t help them with a guy they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:16 PM
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Congrats on the 13 years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:13 PM
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Men getting laid often shows women that the man possesses traits that are appealing to most women.(the ones from the original post). If men were as picky as women, then a promiscuous woman would be impressive in the same way a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:06 PM
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Women want men who are good in the sack. But in order to become good in the sack you need experience. If women say they want low N count men, they are completely ignoring the fact that a man isn’t born a stallion, he has to become one. Men and women both make fun of virgins. The difference is that men will finish laughing at him and say “we gotta get you laid.” and women just point, laugh and inform other girls. Which lower his chances with women even further. The chances of a man helping to bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:18 AM
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I think part of the reason why men feel like the responsibility for dating mostly falls on them is because of women’s constant dodging of responsibility. When it comes to sex, women are the gatekeepers and hold the most power in that domain. But if anything goes wrong in that domain, it’s automatically the mans fault, for everything. “His performance was bad, he wasn’t big enough.” But if a woman underperforms in the sack, we just deal with it or are willing to get her to a point where she is sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:06 AM
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You forget that catering to the male ideal of beauty is not at all difficult. Just don’t get fat and be pleasant. Quit making it sound like women have a hard time getting a man. They don’t at all. They have trouble keeping a man. A woman’s quality is truly tested when her sexual allure no longer clouds a mans judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:35 AM
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The reason you SEEM less interested is because you have far more options that require no effort. Every option a man has requires effort and any failed effort is mostly seen as “thirsty” or “creepy” by women. But the second a high value man comes thu you act as thirsty as guys, but without the courage to act on that thirst and face possible rejection from that man. So you just HOPE he approaches you, which he probably will. He will also probably fuck you too, but he definitely won’t commit becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 09:31 AM
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They get our attention by being naturally attractive. None of that natural attraction was a result of anything she did. Also, if men truly stopped worshipping women for simply inhaling and exhaling, women would be screwed and do what they usually do, complain and demand we change for them. Women really aren’t funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 07:07 AM
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I said that already, few men do it. Even with that being the case, women still handle rejection worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 02:55 PM
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Most men don’t do that, few do. Most women can’t handle rejection well, few can. If you dispute this, bring evidence. Women are on top and still complaining they are oppressed. Perpetual victims, through and through.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:15 AM
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Nah men did that for conquest and domination. Your statement is irrelevant cause women didn’t have a choice back then. I love how people like you need to bring up barbaric times when faced with modern questions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:22 AM
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Dude, tons of women will fuck the plug lol. The fact that he’s the plug make him hotter to some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:07 AM
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Single career men or men who focused on developing themselves rather than focusing on women are happier after 30 because they have accumulated more wealth, status, and success. All things that women are naturally attracted to. Women who focus on career have tons of fun in their 18-29. They are young and beautiful so they have their pick of men. But once their looks start to fade around 30 or 35 (it varies among women) their chances of getting into a relationship significantly drop. Women’s wealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 08:00 AM
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It would have to be the thought police because the “action” police can’t do anything unless the law is being broken, and women have more legal advantages and rights over men in general. That’s indisputable, no contest. But ok, how do you tell the difference between someone promoting a man for doing a good job and promoting them for misogynistic reasons? How do you tell the difference between a woman getting fired for incompetence and a woman getting fired for misogynistic reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:00 PM
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Oops I thought you meant like the wrecking ball lol. But that issue is far more simple that what the other commenter stated. She was saying that one of the huge problems in the workplace that revolves around how people thought of others (misogyny) Ther only way to fix that is by proving them wrong. Unless you deploy thought police tactics, but that’s just trying solving oppression with more oppression. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:39 PM
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Haha or you can give the other one a ball and chain too. That way the one who is most effective with a ball and chain is paid more. Why take away a ball and chain, it’s illogical to hinder efficiency too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:23 PM
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We view sex to have the same type of necessity women view resources to have. A woman won’t marry a guy who owns nothing and men won’t marry a woman who intends to stay a virgin for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:42 PM
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Women shame sluts because they devalue the currency of sex, which is what women use to to bargain marriage with a man for resources. Men usually only shame sluts when they want a ltr from men. Men don’t commit to sluts because the potential for adultery is high. Women subconsciously understand that if men gets easy sex whenever they want, they loose motivation to commit and keep resources to themselves. You will never see a man get married knowing he will never have sex. This is also why men fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:34 PM
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I don’t look down on women. Women in general take rejection poorly, it’s an observable fact. I never denied that there were actual misogynists but all you can do is succeed in spite of them without rigging the game. That’s how winners are made, by succeeding in spite of hardships. Women today seem to want success but think they shouldn’t have to suffer to achieve it. Complainers don’t win, they just demand that the game be made easier for them. That’s why people think feminists are perpetual vic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:18 PM
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The only thing I will give you is that women do get hit on more at work. There are a substantial amount of relationships started at the workplace. Everything else you mentioned, men do deal with them as well.Just as much if not more. We are just better equipped to deal with them. Men just don’t complain about it as much as women do because we understand and accept the realities of our individual situations. For example, getting passed over for a position(rejection) is something men have had to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:21 AM
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Misogynistic?! Which companies are like that? What hardships do women face in companies that men don’t also face?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:01 AM
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I may have used the word comfortable with the wrong connotation. When I said comfortable, I meant more like advantageous, compared to men. Also it’s not like anyone said you can’t complain. It’s just that the most common answer you’ll get is “go start you own thing” or “work somewhere else then” Quotas are by their very nature, meant to make any situation unfair. No debate needed. They are made to give one an advantage over the other. It handicaps the side that doesn’t receive it. It also shows …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:57 AM
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By you're logic men should change policies just to make things more comfortable for women because they are women?That's not entitled?! If a companies standard of treatment really do violate fairness, then go find a business that doesn't. If employees are mistreated then they won't work for the abusive company. Since they loose employees, they suffer in the free market and are forced to change or fail. I'm not saying that companies are perfect because there are some abusive policies that all comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 07:45 AM
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You need to focus on doing what’s best for you. My redpill rage was fierce and I just felt like telling all of my friends the truth about woman. My minor attempts to do so we’re stopped by my friends telling me, “that’s probably why you don’t have a gf” or “that’s how you die alone man.” I learned that people won’t listen to TRP unless they need it for their specific situation. Even then it’s not a guarantee they’ll drop the blue pill. That’s why they say men don’t redpill men, women do. What he…
/r/askTRP26/02/20 06:38 AM
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They weren’t alway woman worshipping. Remember patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:24 AM
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Female complaints are inherently taken more seriously than yours. Use that to your advantage and get your gf to complain to the director.
/r/askTRP26/02/20 06:12 AM
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I believe it’s in their nature to make sure their partner has resources to provide. But modern times make it so she is more easily able to acquire her own resources. Even though this is the case, women still adhere to their nature of wanting a man that have more than she has. This reduces her options with the more resources she acquires. Then it ends up seeming as though there are fewer worthy men left. The men who aren’t as well off and successful as women seem invisible to them. Then you hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 05:16 AM
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I see where you are coming from. It’s not like gathering jobs didn’t have their own hazards. Mothers do the same thing really. But at the end of the day, the doctor is the one leading the charge. The price of being the leader is that your decisions can affect the lives of everyone involved. The blame for failure, while it may not be entirely his fault, is placed on the leader of almost anything. That in my opinion far outweighs the risks faced by a nurse. That isn’t to say a nurse isn’t pivotal …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:26 PM
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Your right, but it is difficult to achieve. The jobs that classify you as a “hunter” always involve more sacrifice than the “gatherer” jobs. You sacrifice time, effort, and family to be successful in these prospects. Same principle applies when you compare nurses to doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:13 PM
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So safer work carreers = gathering? Yes, being populated by mostly women. Men dominating the STEM fields, dangerous jobs, CEOs, etc=Hunting I disagree that they are, the worship is all online. Disagree there, but I can chalk it up to subjectivity between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:09 PM
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All the women who would say no were killed and kick out of the gene pool. So the only women who survive were the one who would easily change teams. They evolved to doing it willingly. Strange or not it’s a fact. So trump would be making these women pop out orange babies if the women couldn’t get child support and alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:02 PM
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I guess I disagree that it helps a woman find a higher quality guy if they have a career. For men it makes no difference because at the end of the day, he’s the one who is expected to approach and in order for a woman to be willing to give him the time of day, he has to already have his shit together. All we want is for her to desire us sexually, be loyal, be and stay attractive. In our heads, we are on top of the job thing but we won’t turn down help if offered. If it isn’t offered oh well.🤷🏾‍♂…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:19 PM
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Why is it hunting and not gathering? Keep going to the same spot, do same behavior, carreers look more standard and safe...like gathering. Because gathering was only possible after men risked there lives to make those grounds safer. It mirrors modern day because men still dominate the more risky life threatening jobs and women tend to work safer jobs after it was made possible by me. And now you are bringing up nature as if it's uncontrollable. And we have nurture going against that. Yes, your n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 04:05 PM
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The best way to date a doctor as a man is to be a doctor or better. A male doctor may end up with another doctor sure, but he doesn’t NEED her to be a doctor. In most successful relationships, both partners may be working good jobs. But you’ll often see that the man in that relationship works a job with more wealth, status, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:52 PM
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Women have always slept with their conquerors, willingly. Back in the old days, invaders would kill all the men and take the women. They gave em a choice most of the time, die with the men or become our women. Guess which one most of em chose. Its the same today, just way less barbaric. Instead of killing other men, you make yourself a better choice than those men, then the women just won’t sleep with those other men. It’s all submission, she has to submit to have sex with anyone, and they can o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:46 PM
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I believe there’s a way to win. It may involve confronting harsh truths neither side is willing to face atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:37 PM
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Then I’ll say we are being nurtured to go against our nature. A career is just labor you do to acquire resources. Its modern day hunting. Women back in the day didn’t hunt, the took care of the family. It’s the same concept. Men and women have always been monogamous since they only mated with alpha males and needed them to protect them during pregnancy and the offspring after birth. Men became polyamorous when communities among early human were formed. Women were hypergamous in order to survive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:34 PM
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I highly doubt that man, money and power soak panties like a clitoral tsunami.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:19 PM
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No they are not winning because they are going against what they biologically want to do, which is have kids. Women in the workforce is a direct cause of declining birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:16 PM
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I would say men primarily just search for a woman who kind, attractive, desire them, and are as sane as you can find them. Men don’t really care generally about being equal to women in status and wealth. The only reason it’s not more common is because women don’t generally date men who are equal or below them in wealth, status, or physical attraction because they care about that stuff. Don’t have a problem with that since it’s nature but it’s also the reason why career women tend to not have kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:13 PM
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You’re right, we aren’t the same but society would have us believe that we are. Women are told they can do what men do. Things like sleeping around and having a career occupation and a family at the same time. It’s significantly harder and for a woman to do those things and way more harmful to their biological imperative. Not because men make it harder, but because it goes against their nature. They tell men they have to act like women. Conflict, criticism, and masculinity are seen a bad and hur…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:04 PM
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Most women do have this assumption because those women think pussy is all they have to bring to the table. That’s hilarious compared to the laundry list of things women have for men. What does society expect women to bring to the table in a relationship? You always hear women complaining about how bad men are (men ain’t shit) but those same women keep sleeping and being around these bad men. Why do you think women do this so often? Men who aren’t desperate and have options look do not view sluts…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:37 PM
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Women have this tendency to assume that because the guy they want wants to sleep with them, they must also want a commitment. Not always the case. Instead of being wary of this fact and adapting, they chose to continue with the same method and eventually evolve into thinking all me are selfish, heartbreaking, pigs. If she would just understand that it takes more than pussy to land a quality man, she would be having better luck. Society most certainly does encourage women to try all their options…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 02:17 PM
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Depends on how you define winning. Women who don’t go down the career path have more time to try for the right relationship. You see articles all over the internet of career woman unable to start the family they wanted because they spent their time chasing financial success. Nothing wrong with that but decisions have consequences. Success takes time and by the time they achieve it, men around her age are perusing younger versions of her to fulfill their biological and evolutionary imperative. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:46 PM
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Really, you have up till your 35 with all the options you want and that’s still not enough? Sure our biological clock isn’t like women’s. But that’s still years of relationship attempts on hard mode. Women hop from relationship to relationship on easy mode. If anything, women should definitely take it much more seriously if your time is so limited. By your logic since your time is so valuable you shouldn’t be spending time “finding yourself” or “having fun when your young.” Heck by that logic, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:29 PM
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What, how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:08 PM
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I think men only complain when they try to do the same and get shamed for it. Society encourages woman to go out and have their fill. But then society turns around and shames men for not committing. Usually happens when that woman who originally didn’t want anything serious catches feels because you consistently slept with her. She then complains to the man for not catching feels like she did or on social media or to friends, coworkers, and family. Men do this as well but woman do it more becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:08 PM
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I mean fantasies like that. I’ve seen them say things like “he’s with a low value woman”, “he’s homeless”, or “he lost his job.” And they are happy about it. Same with guys but I definitely see it more on FDS. From what I observe, men tend to generalize rather than speak subjectively. That’s why you see slightly less revenge fantasies on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:57 PM
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FDS is just a bunch of woman who don’t understand the concept of earning what you want. They think they deserve everything just because they exist. They apply this thinking to almost everything then go back to the echo chamber because they desperately want to hear someone tell them their behavior is the right thing to do. Lurking through FDS has helped me get passed my redpill rage by learning to laugh at that kind of absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:48 PM
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Their time is worth more than a man’s by virtue of them being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:38 PM
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I usually see a lot of posts like “I saw my ex four years after I worked up the courage to leave him and he’s now a drug addict” Both sides definitely have revenge fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:36 PM
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In my hs days there girls I got friend zoned by were pretty attractive. I would have liked a smoking hot piece but I never needed it so I didn’t care to stress over not getting the hot girl. I just shot my shot then moved on. However, the 3 girls that caged me were girls who’s personalities I genuinely liked. One of them never had any intention of giving me a chance, she knew for a fact I liked her since her friends were dating some of my friends. She just enjoyed the attention and favors I’d do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:57 AM
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People should be more detailed about the type of ambition. There good ambitions like chasing success, wealth, and self improvement. Then there’s bad ambitions like chasing someone to leech off of, a life of crime, etc. Being hypergamous is in itself a type of ambition. It’s impossible to be ambition-less and hypergamous by definition. We live in a time where the social connotation means more to people than the actual definition. Like how nowadays rape can be classified as inappropriate touching …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:26 AM
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I have to disagree with you there. Most women will say they wouldn’t touch him and truly mean it atm. They SAY it because it is deemed the socially acceptable answer. They say is PASSIONATELY because they understand the chances of that happening are extremely low. It’s easy to hate and dehumanize someone you’ve never met face to face, that’s why the internet is so full of trolls and dark humor. But if Trump were to be face to face with these women and requested to grab em by the pussy, 90% of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:15 AM
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Remember the Prohibition, yeah it will go the exact same way with porn. Outright banning something indiscriminately just makes the desire for it stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:44 AM
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Well let me clarify. If there is an issue (of which I do not see atm) then they will weigh them against the positives and decide from there. That being said, the weak being left behind is the price we pay for having a free society and a free market. In fact, porn is just an attempt from the free market to help solve the problems mostly men face in the SMP, so the weak technically arent being left behind, they are adapting to their situation. Those fetishes you speak of have always existed, the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:56 PM
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Jeez, straight dudes have to work the hardest out of everyone to get laid. I gave up trying to get women to understand this (there are a few times when I can’t help myself) but I understand why they have a hard time grasping it. It hard to understand the value of something when you yourself acquire it like it’s nothing. It’s like when the rich look down on the needy. They don’t really have any motivation to understand men because men will line up at their front door regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:55 PM
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I rarely get a satisfying answer to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:46 PM
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Woah, I never said they were weak minded, idk where you got that from. You can still contribute to society and watch porn. It becomes an issue when porn prevents you from being productive. Also, actual sex can fuck up both men and women. Example, a woman’s partner employs new sexual techniques like exceptional violence (chocking of various degrees) and now she can only have that thing done to her. Not every partner is okay with that and now she has to cope with the fact that she will cum very in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:42 PM
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Your assumption is correct. That being the case, I assume that you believe the best line of defense a child has against these things are well intentioned and well informed parents. Men will always have that sexual urge and it will just keep gnawing at them until its satisfied. I know i compared porn to drugs earlier, but with proper moderation it can be used to attain the same effect as no fap, and abstinence. If they are messed up prior to porn, at least they arent using women to satisfy their …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:41 PM
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I don’t see what is really sad about it. I see porn as something to be handled like anything else you indulge in. It should be fine with moderation. It’s not like these men would pass up real intercourse with a woman if presented with the chance. I see that most of them may suffer from anti-social ailments. If that is the case, I believe more than just porn itself is what messes them up. You usually turn to something addictive when something you actually need is lacking. For others, instead of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:10 PM
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Possible, although I believe the real world may have fucked them up so bad that they decided real woman weren’t worth the risk. Your response sounds the same as when people blame video games for the worlds problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:31 AM
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I’m using this😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:28 AM
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No woman is attracted to a loser low value male. The problem lies in that woman with your mindset think the average decent guy is low value. That you deserve the best of the best purely because you are a woman and nothing else. The only way a man feels he deserves the best is by checking off all the boxes of what women are attracted to, that being wealth, status, looks, and power. Women are attempting to do the same thing, thinking us as men are attracted to the same thing you are. We are not at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:02 AM
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From what I see, the vast majority of men are either supportive of sex workers or indifferent. The person running project melody is still a human doing all of the movements and interactions the other girls do. The selling point seems to be the interaction Melody is able to do. And to run all of that tech can’t be easy either. It seems like Melody just puts more work and brains into that activity and the market responded positively. There is no hate for the other cam girls, it seems that there we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:49 PM
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I highly doubt that most of the viewers on chaturbate are porn addicts, it basically just another genre of prob that has many fans. I’m sure there are some addicts mixed in there but I don’t believe it’s most viewers. That’s just an uncharitable assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:58 PM
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You believe every guy that watches porn has no ambition?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:51 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:49 PM
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Nothing wrong with being a weeb. So it seems like all the backlash is coming from people with no experience in the free market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:01 AM
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I agree that there are a lot of men who complain too much but that’s not what the comment you replied to was talking about. He was referring to the actual issue of women choosing to fruitlessly chase Chads while people around her own level are invisible to her. That’s a lose lose situation. You illustrated the problem for the men’s side but there is a problem on the women’s side that is too often ignored or blamed on the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:01 PM
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Insecure about what, not being a Chad. That’s not what most men have a problem with. It goes beyond men just being better and trying harder. The problem stems for women’s unrestrained hypergamy. Not saying hypergamy is bad but society doesn’t limit women’s instincts (hypergamy) the way it limits men’s natural instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:35 PM
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How could you possibly have gotten that idea
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:15 PM
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Will do, good talk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 02:31 PM
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I personally don’t believe in karma but that being said you aren’t exactly wrong. Having said that, sleeping with somebody’s girlfriend is far less of a risk to society than arms dealing. I would say most guys treat this situation same way girls react when some dude gives them money on the internet because they posted that they were #brokesquadlol. If it’s coming your way and it takes little effort on your part, then why not🤷🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 02:10 PM
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Most guys treat it like regular sex. No real point in thinking about it. If she wants to cheat she will. If not with you than it will be with some other dude. The only time men usually pause and think about it is when they personally know the cheater or the “cheatee.” May as well get your nut and keep it pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 01:40 PM
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I’m normally emotional and feel the need to correct a lot of female misconceptions and incorrect statements. You know, the stuff you normally find on FDS. Combing through FDS has helped me practice restrain lol
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