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1

Uh, yes. Yes it is. But I must've posted that earlier in the year 10 years ago because I'm 43. How and why did you even find this post?
/r/seduction19/08/22 05:49 PM
1

No I'm not.
/r/seduction19/08/22 05:14 PM
4

It's because it's blatant satire. She doesn't believe this; she's demonstrating how men sound when they try to control women's reproductive freedom. Jesus.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 04:25 AM
1

Yeah, her outfit is weird. I actually didn't know that about clubs. I don't go to them. That sounds dreadful.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 10:13 PM
-1

I read it as her being mad because her friend was told "You and your friends can come in for free," and it wasn't until they arrived that they were told that they only could come in for free if they met a certain physical standard.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 09:49 PM
11

This sickens me. I am a woman, and i can't think of anyone I know who would have wanted to help that woman in that way. I am thoroughly creeped out that an entire group of women supported her behavior.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 04:05 AM
1

Well, two of those characters are gods.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 06:30 PM
5

That isn't a shit test. It is a normal conversational question.
/r/seduction10/11/13 02:36 AM
-3

This made me sad, since you're saying the typical guy buys a girl a drink (implying it is super common) , and I've never been bought a drink by a guy I didn't show up to the place with. :-\ Then again, I've never asked anyone to buy me one.
/r/seduction30/07/13 09:59 AM
2

33 year old woman here. The guy I've been seeing is your age and lives at home so he can afford to pay more towards his student loans. I agree it is a wise decision for him to do so.
/r/seduction27/11/12 12:34 PM
1

Awesome! I like it. :-)
/r/seduction08/10/12 07:10 PM
2

It makes sense, but it would make more sense to force people to ask questions elsewhere if you also had a way to force people to offer answers there.
/r/seduction08/10/12 06:05 PM
3

The rule is incorrect. The rule says, "Hey, there are 80,000 people here who can help you, but you should instead go and ask the 8,000 people who usually don't reply."
/r/seduction08/10/12 05:40 PM
0

The problem with askseddit is that it only has 10% as many subscribers. If you needed help, where would YOU choose to post?
/r/seduction08/10/12 04:07 PM
2

Okay, I will give you that, but it still isn't a shit test. She just isn't interested.
/r/seduction05/10/12 04:40 PM
20

That doesn't sound like a shit test. That just sounds like she's racist.
/r/seduction05/10/12 03:04 PM
2

Well, we're going to go see Star Trek: The Next Generation playing at the theater for the 25th anniversary, so for two nerds like us, that's kinda like porn. I think things should go well!
/r/seduction15/07/12 10:46 PM
2

That's a great way to think about it! Thank you! So... here's to him seeing past his geeky-awkward-software-developer persona (which I just find adorable) long enough to realize that I'm in to him - and that he's in to me!
/r/seduction15/07/12 10:29 PM
1

I have a really hard time being flirtatious towards him. I'm afraid that he sees me as just a friend, and I'm afraid that being more flirtatious will.... frighten him. But last time we were out with our friends, GOD I wanted to kiss him!
/r/seduction15/07/12 10:00 PM
1

Best advice I've received in a long time. I have my first date in a very long time coming up a week from tomorrow (I know, Monday is a weird day for a date... but we're going to a show, and that's when the show is). I'm SUPER afraid - afraid he won't realize it's supposed to be a date, afraid he won't like me (even though we've known each other a while), afraid he won't let me kiss him, afraid I won't have the courage to try to kiss him..... But the thing is, that if I don't stop being afraid, I…
/r/seduction15/07/12 09:27 PM
1

Well, maybe a bar isn't the right environment for you?
/r/seduction23/06/12 03:22 PM
1

Part of it is about audience. I would have laughed my ass off at the tropical storm / loss of life line. If you have a nerdy sense of humor, don't change it... rock it until you find the girl who laughs with you!
/r/seduction23/06/12 01:20 PM
5

Ya know, that is actually how they treat anxiety disorder. When I was in the hospital in 2010, I was told that people may come up to me with strange questions in the cafeteria. I saw it happen to others a lot, but it only happened to me once. A teenage girl came up and asked me what year it was. The idea is to prove that if you ask someone a question that they think is dumb, nothing bad happens to you.
/r/seduction08/06/12 11:25 PM
46

I'm fine with that. I'd much rather help people who need it than listen to stories about how some guy got a girl at a bar to fuck him.
/r/seduction28/05/12 05:43 PM
1

Do you have a favorite meal? Do you want to eat it again and again throughout your life even though there are meals out there you haven't tasted yet? it's like that. Once you find what you really want most of all, you no longer have to try everything out there.
/r/seduction28/05/12 05:26 PM
55

I don't see the point of having two subreddits dedicated to the same topic.
/r/seduction28/05/12 05:18 PM
0

That isn't a fair question. It's like asking, "Do men like video games?" Sure, SOME men like video games. Some find them tedious and boring. The only thing I can say is that most people prefer someone whose level of intelligence is similar to their own. Highly intelligent women will like intelligent men. Less intelligent women will be more likely to find intelligent men uninteresting or intimidating.
/r/seduction16/05/12 03:27 AM
1

Blankets. Warm, cuddly blankets.
/r/seduction16/05/12 02:14 AM
9

Some women like short men. I'm one of them.
/r/seduction14/05/12 01:31 AM
-1

It sounds like you're happy with the older women, so why fix something that isn't broken?
/r/seduction06/05/12 08:25 PM
-2

I spent my twenties wasting all of my money just to get men to go out with me. I'm not repeating that mistake in my thirties.
/r/seduction06/05/12 07:36 PM
0

.I am heavy. I have been successfully working on it, but I have a long way to go still.
/r/seduction02/05/12 12:43 AM
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It was someone he recently met. She said no and has been avoiding him (someone we both know actually told me she was making an effort to avoid him). On the other hand, I've known him several months. Yes, that statement applies to me; the fear of rejection is HUGE with me because I've never had anyone I was interested in NOT reject me. I don't' expect everyone to return the sentiment. What is unfortunate is that based on past experiences, I expect NO ONE to return the sentiment (I expect to conti…
/r/seduction01/05/12 07:28 PM
1

Yeah, I am struggling to move the locus of self-worth off of mens' opinions of me. After 6 years single, it's not easy. I am getting better, but I am not yet where I need to be. I understand what you're saying about not trying. However, in the past, whenever I've tried with a guy, he's rejected me, so trying doesn't feel like it has any better of an outcome than not trying - it just serves to make me sadder. With the specific guy I'm thinking about, though, I know he asked someone else because h…
/r/seduction01/05/12 06:09 PM
0

Well, I have a "problem" going after men that aren't interested me in the sense that no men are interested in me. :-\
/r/seduction01/05/12 04:02 PM
1

I feel sad and afraid that she is right; that the man isn't interested in me and nether are any of the other men I'm interested in.
/r/seduction01/05/12 04:01 PM
1

What makes it reverse kino?
/r/seduction01/05/12 04:00 PM
-1

Well, the only thing is, I know he's not a coward about asking women out because he told me about another woman that he asked out (she said no, and he doesn't know this, but she refers to him as "the creepy guy".) And thank you! I've got a ways to go in my weight loss, but it always feels good to get recognition and encouragement!
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:43 PM
0

Regardless, I feel annoyed and disappointed.
/r/seduction01/05/12 03:41 PM
0

I actually am getting a new therpist. My company just switched health insurance providers, and she's not on the new one. I was sad about this until yesterday when she told me #1 that I shouldn't ask out the man I'm interested in or any other man and #2 that because I'm overweight (currently between a size 16 and 18, down from a size 24), I should stop letting myself get attracted to "normal sized" men because they won't ever want me. ><
/r/seduction01/05/12 02:53 PM
0

Actually, by default, I'm getting a new therapist. My company just switched health insurance providers, and she's not on the new one.
/r/seduction01/05/12 02:52 PM
1

GAHHH, you're right. I want to be like, "You asked the wrong girl out, dumbass; you are supposed to ask ME out!" And thanks! (Who knew my cake day was my BFF's RL birthday? I should have been paying more attention to him last year, apparently.....)
/r/seduction01/05/12 02:37 AM
-2

It could make it awkward to remain friends with him. That's the fear. Also, there is someone else who I am slightly less interested in that is a friend to both of us, and it could make it not okay to ask him out then.
/r/seduction01/05/12 02:24 AM
-2

I don't know.... she is around 40, I think. The conversation came up because I want to ask out a man who told me about asking someone else out (she said no, and according to a mutual friend, refers to him as "the creepy guy").
/r/seduction01/05/12 02:15 AM
0

That that is dumb because I prefer short men.
/r/seduction30/04/12 02:29 PM
1

Actually, I have paid for significantly more dates than have been paid for for me. And I'm not a feminist. It pisses my mother and sister off to no end, but I simply don't share their beliefs.
/r/seduction30/04/12 01:36 AM
0

Share your hobbies. The right woman will find them interesting. Do you really want to hide who you are to get someone who likes you for who you're pretending to be?
/r/seduction30/04/12 12:01 AM
1

If we said that no, there is no hope for an introvert, would you give up and resign yourself to a life of solitude? No? Then who cares what we say?
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:46 PM
-4

You're assuming I support feminism.
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:34 PM
-16

Because friends go out?
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:32 PM
-3

LOL. The pastor at my church is Dutch and gave a sermon around a month ago about being a good steward of your money. He said that we should trust him because he is Dutch and they call it "going dutch" for a reason. :-P
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:18 PM
3

I'm a girl, and unless it's just about sex, I don't respect a guy who wants me to sleep with him if he hasn't paid for anything. And yes, I will take my turn and pay for things, too, but nothing says, "I just want to be friends," like a guy repeatedly wanting to go dutch in the beginning. Also, I don't mean that in a, "I'm not sleeping with him unless he dishes out the dough," way. I mean it in a, "Oh, I thought he was interested in me, but his actions indicate otherwise. I'd better not get my h…
/r/seduction29/04/12 11:14 PM
19

Do a lot of people pet your pants? I want to pet your pants.
/r/seduction29/04/12 10:55 PM
1

Well, it'll make me more sad. I know he likes me as a person, but I kinda don't think he likes me as... a woman. Although I think he would if I wasn't obese.
/r/seduction29/04/12 08:16 PM
1

I think it's best to offer a venue if it's the first time you're asking her out. After all, you KNOW you're going to ask her out and as such, have time to plan a venue. She has no idea you're going to do this and is then put on the spot to think of somewhere.
/r/seduction29/04/12 07:57 PM
1

I actually have a diet / exercise routine that's working for me. I'm just impatient because I have to lose more than 70 additional pounds before I'm "normal" weight, and I don't want to wait that long to get a date! As for going out with girlfriends, that's easier said than done. I've always gravitated towards men as friends, and they don't so much want to go out and pick up men. Well, at least not at the same venue that I'd want to go out and pick up men.... I googled karezza because I never he…
/r/seduction29/04/12 07:12 PM
2

I would think they should be better than they were in my twenties. In my twenties, by severe clinical depression was untreated (I was seeking treatment, but it took over a decade to find something that worked.) I am a functional human for pretty much the first time ever.
/r/seduction29/04/12 05:49 PM
2

Tried it for the first time last weekend. Approached about a dozen guys. All of them looked away when I spoke as if I was a teacher who caught them looking at another student's test. Only person who spoke to me the whole night was a guy who tapped me on the shoulder, said "you're old!" and pointed at the door.
/r/seduction29/04/12 05:46 PM
1

I just want to get thin enough that men do not immediately write me off as a potential partner.
/r/seduction29/04/12 03:00 AM
1

It is hard. I haven't been approached by a man in YEARS.
/r/seduction29/04/12 02:50 AM
1

I wish I had that option. I knew at a young age that marriage and kids were my priority, but no men I have ever been interested in have ever been willing to date me. I got sick of settling for men who abuse me, so I have been single 6 years.
/r/seduction29/04/12 02:47 AM
5

I read it because I haven't been able to get a new boyfriend since my last one broke up with me in 2006, and I want to learn how.
/r/seduction29/04/12 02:45 AM
1

I'm... I'm fat. I have always been fat. I have lost 55 pounds but have 75 more to go.
/r/seduction29/04/12 02:44 AM
1

Who the fuck am I supposed to date, then?
/r/seduction29/04/12 02:43 AM
21

I can say that as a woman in her early thirties, yes, prospects have dried up by my age. I have to choice but to resort to trying to seduce much-younger men because they're the only ones who are still available. Unfortunately, most younger men aren't interested in a woman my age, so essentially, my prospects are zero.
/r/seduction28/04/12 03:26 PM
-1

Thanks for the update. That sucks, though.
/r/seduction26/04/12 11:47 AM
-2

Why would you want to "counter" a valid question? Just answer it.
/r/seduction22/04/12 10:02 PM
4

It's nice to hear a FR from a woman! I (also a woman) have absolutely zero confidence when it comes to initiating with men (because 100% of previous attempts have been unsuccessful), so it's good to see that it IS possible for a woman to initiate and not get rejected!
/r/seduction21/04/12 01:53 AM
1

I think it depends on timing, too. Like, if you walk up to a girl and ask that, it's devaluing. If you've been talking for a while and her glass has been empty for the past 15 minutes, I think it shows value.
/r/seduction19/04/12 01:07 AM
5

Ahh, that makes sense. I suppose there is also a lot ot be said for the difference between... Man: "May I buy you a drink?" and Woman: "Hey, wanna buy me a drink?"
/r/seduction18/04/12 06:13 PM
-19

Wow. One woman is a bitch, so now you'll never buy anyone else a drink again?
/r/seduction18/04/12 04:23 PM
1

At 4:30 he was still at work. He came over by those of us hanging in the break room and I said, "ohhhhhh, I thought you were leaving early?" with a smile. He said he got talked in to staying. He didn't talk to me the rest of the afternoon.
/r/seduction17/04/12 01:06 PM
1

So either shes not interested anymore (which is wierd, she was interested if sure) That is an entirely plausible outcome. I've gone out on plenty of dates with people I thought I was way in to only to find out they aren't what I expected.
/r/seduction15/04/12 07:19 PM
4

Oneitis stems from letting yourself develop relationship-like feelings for a person who you are not in a relationship. You develop a "mental" relationship where you think about the person all the time and think about how wonderful the two of you would be together. Having this already built up, if you ask the person out and get rejected, it feels like a loss because you're losing the imaginary relationship you had built up. I don't know how to get over an existing oneitis, but to avoid it int he …
/r/seduction15/04/12 06:01 PM
17

I tried this today, although I'm the girl and I tried it on a guy. We're allowed to play ping-pong at work any time after 4PM. Discussion came up at lunch, and I mentioned that I've never played. The guy in question was part of the conversation. He plays ping pong most days. I said to him this afternoon, "Guess what's happening at 4:00?" He said, "What?" and I said, "You're teaching me to play ping pong." He said, "I can't; I'm leaving early." I replied, "Oh well; more beer for me!" (There is be…
/r/seduction13/04/12 08:58 PM
7

I find it better to describe what I do rather than state my job title. When I tell people, "I'm a PS (Professional Services) and PMO (Project Management Office) Operations Analyst," I am met with blank stares. When I tell people, "I am in charge of yelling at people," (my job is to audit people to make sure they're following procedure - THEY ARE NOT) it both explains what I actually do and gets a smile.
/r/seduction12/04/12 03:41 PM
0

Well what I am saying is: don't get involved with that kind of girl.
/r/seduction09/04/12 12:04 AM
12

Nothing, but that's a feature of what you're looking for. If you're looking for random sex, you're going to find people who like random sex. If you want a committed relationship, you need to look for that. You can't look for random sex and then be sad when the woman isn't in to commitment.
/r/seduction08/04/12 06:04 PM
22

I am not sure I understand what your complaint is. It seems like you're trying to pick up women solely for physical pleasure but are bothered that there are women that want to be picked up solely for physical pleasure.
/r/seduction08/04/12 05:41 PM
1

As a woman who comes here to learn these techniques: no, I was not aware of them.
/r/seduction08/04/12 03:25 AM
1

Several much.
/r/seduction07/04/12 11:44 PM
2

It's going to be awkward, but you need to bring it up. She is taking advantage of you. As a woman, I am all for gallantry and the man paying - but I reciprocate. A man I was dating earlier this year took me out for two fairly expensive dinners. I didn't offer to pay for my half, and he didn't ask. But for our third date, I bought a fairly expensive pair of theater tickets for us. Like you said, I am an independent woman with a good job who can afford to take turns paying. I appreciate when a man…
/r/seduction23/03/12 03:39 PM
1

I don't know, but your title made me think of Zoidberg saying, "I'm SO in to you," and sucking on the professor's head.
/r/seduction20/03/12 01:01 PM
-1

She could. My sister was in a happy relationship with a doormat for many years. It ended when he turned out to be a sociopath who had been using different manufactured personalities and different names depending on what group of people he was with, but right up until then, she was happy.
/r/seduction10/03/12 08:11 PM
-1

....maybe she wants a doormat?
/r/seduction10/03/12 08:04 PM
1

Okay, a better way to put it would be: Let's assume you are correct and she doesn't know what she wants. If she doesn't even know what she wants, what makes you think you can know what she wants?
/r/seduction10/03/12 07:52 PM
-6

I don't even know how to reply to that. It makes very little sense.
/r/seduction10/03/12 07:37 PM
-4

Yes, clearly a bunch of men who are looking for advice on how to even get a woman in the first place know more about what women want than women do. o.O
/r/seduction10/03/12 07:11 PM
-4

Wouldn't it make more sense to ask women, seeing as it's a woman that you want to please?
/r/seduction10/03/12 06:57 PM
1

No. There is not a nice way.
/r/seduction10/03/12 06:51 PM
1

Chicago
/r/seduction06/03/12 04:15 AM
2

Fuck. No wonder I can't find a boyfriend.
/r/seduction06/03/12 03:53 AM
-2

Uh, since when? if you're only dating one person and they are only dating you, what the hell else is it?
/r/seduction28/02/12 05:10 AM
-3

If it looks like a duck and walks lick a duck and quacks like a duck, you don't have to sign it for it to be a duck.
/r/seduction28/02/12 04:17 AM
0

How am I generalizing?
/r/seduction28/02/12 03:41 AM
0

I just don't have any desire for a relationship Uh, it sounds like you're in one. EDIT TO ADD: Also, making a joke when a woman asks you a serious question just makes you seem like you are hiding something AND like you are an asshole.
/r/seduction28/02/12 03:13 AM
1

Most of the single ladies I see also look pretty focused on what they are studying. Maybe they're thinking the same thing about you, and you're both missing out because of it. I learned a lesson in not assuming things 2 weeks ago. I was at church looking for a seat and saw a very attractive man alone in a row. I assumed that he must just be waiting for his wife or girlfriend, so I sat a couple rows back. Sure enough, a pretty young woman went and sat beside him. After service, the two of them we…
/r/seduction26/02/12 02:16 AM
2

no skin off my bones This broke my brain.
/r/seduction26/02/12 12:33 AM
5

I don't give a shit if you want to give up. That's your prerogative. This just isn't the group to help you if that's your decision. If that's not your decision, then you shouldn't have led with (basically): "why are yous preaching a method that doesn't work because it doesn't apply to me?"
/r/seduction26/02/12 12:31 AM
1

Based on his post, it doesn't sound like he is looking for help changing himself or his situation, though. It sounds like he just wanted to voice his disapproval of seduction as a concept because he doesn't think it applies to him.
/r/seduction26/02/12 12:30 AM
2

Well, if you've already established that finding a woman isn't possible for you, then you probably should avoid the subreddit about finding women and maybe try r/MMFB or something.
/r/seduction26/02/12 12:20 AM
3

My central point -- and it actually relates to my digression -- is that I'm just not qualified for this. Then why are you here?
/r/seduction26/02/12 12:11 AM
3

Thanks, I made it myself.
/r/seduction25/02/12 11:39 PM
3

You don't like my dancing? Then show me how to do it!
/r/seduction25/02/12 05:33 PM
1

Thank you for the encouragement. I don't go to the mall or coffee shops, I thought the sidewalk thing sounded unlikely, and every time I see a man at a grocery store, he has a nagging woman with him. Also, I graduated college in 2002. It uhm... it's hard to meet single men.
/r/seduction25/02/12 05:00 PM
6

Wow. With all these people answering "anywhere and everywhere", it is making me feel even worse that (as a woman) I never get hit on. Shit.
/r/seduction25/02/12 02:35 PM
-1

I've been dieting and working out for years. It...hasn't helped much. I started a new diet this year, though, and have lost 11 pounds... but that leaves roughly 90 to go.
/r/seduction21/02/12 01:25 AM
1

That may ne the most practical advice I have gotten.
/r/seduction20/02/12 08:02 PM
0

That is good to know about going to bars alone. I've never really gone to bars, though, so I dont know how to strike up a conversation with someone. As forthwith rejection, think it stems from my size. I've been working for YEARS to lose weight with professional help, but it isn't happening for me at a tolerable pace.
/r/seduction20/02/12 03:46 PM
0

I don't unless I am at home with people I trust.
/r/seduction20/02/12 03:43 PM
0

Hot guys do not give me attention. Astoria average guys, I don't mean to be defensive and don't realize I am doing it at the time, but my BFF has repeatedly pointed out that when dealing with a new person, I act as though they have insulted me and I need to defend myself.
/r/seduction20/02/12 03:43 PM
0

Downtrodden with rejection,mostly. And I do not have the balls to go out to bars alone to try and make friends because a woman going to bars alone is construed badly.
/r/seduction20/02/12 02:00 PM
-1

No. I think he is wondering, "why is that fat bitch staring at me?"
/r/seduction20/02/12 01:57 PM
0

ha! Maybe I should try it.
/r/seduction20/02/12 03:49 AM
0

I'm a weepy drunk.
/r/seduction20/02/12 02:22 AM
0

That's a good way to look at it. Thanks!
/r/seduction20/02/12 02:09 AM
0

I've been working on it, but after years of nothing but rejection, it's really hard!
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:46 AM
0

Thanks for explaining!
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:35 AM
1

The natural thing for me to do is cower at the other side of the room. So far, it has never been beneficial.
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:27 AM
2

Do you have an example because I'm picturing the Futurama Fry meme.
/r/seduction20/02/12 12:21 AM
0

The latter one just looks.... drunk. :-P
/r/seduction19/02/12 11:55 PM
0

Any. Right now all I can muster is this.
/r/seduction19/02/12 11:15 PM
0

Thanks!
/r/seduction19/02/12 11:12 PM
0

It's kinda weird. I have absolutely no issue whatsoever talking to people, but I can't make myself smile at attractive men. I just... get scared.
/r/seduction19/02/12 11:04 PM
1

Mostly I wish I could get over that terror in the put of my stomach feeling.
/r/seduction19/02/12 10:04 PM
0

I never had looks. Get over your fucking self and take the time to treat someone if you want her to waste her time with your self-centered ass.
/r/seduction19/02/12 09:05 PM
0

Why do you feel entitled to invite someone out and not have it cost you anything? Sounds like the other side of the same coin.
/r/seduction19/02/12 03:18 PM
0

I googled that and got "Two Deaf Men Stabbed Because Woman Thought They Were Throwing Gang Signs".
/r/seduction19/02/12 03:04 AM
-1

Wh....what? Who says that?
/r/seduction19/02/12 02:52 AM
-1

Violence?
/r/seduction19/02/12 02:19 AM
0

Why?
/r/seduction19/02/12 02:17 AM
0

Uhm, if you read my other posts in the thread, you'd see that I stated that most of my past relationships have been started by me asking him out. And yes, I paid. And although I'm over 30 now, I wasn't near 30 when I started doing that. It sounds like you have a horrible image of women.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:57 PM
0

Sure! That's what it sounded like to me. We both have different preferences and understandings, both based on unselfish motives and different definitions of respect.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:55 PM
0

Uhhh I wouldn't say so. I'm well off. I'm not rich.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:54 PM
1

Huh. I find the exact opposite preferable. Pay until we know we click and things are going somewhere, and then it starts making sense to split things. Also, my feelings are that I make enough money to buy pretty much most things I could want. So that means that if I want to buy something, I do it. I don't need you to be in attendance. So like, in a nutshell, if I am paying for shit myself, I don't need you to be there.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:44 PM
-7

I find it baffling that you think it's in any way acceptable to invite someone out and then expect them to pay their own way. All that means is that we shouldn't date. I'm not gonna change your opinion, and you're not gonna change mine. EDIT TO ADD: It's not the concept of going dutch that I find disrespectful and sleazy. It's not discussing this until the check comes and then expecting the person you invited out to whip out cash.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:31 PM
-1

All I intend is that if someone takes me somewhere, they do it on their own dime - just like when I take someone somewhere, I do it on MY own dime. Just last night I brought a friend to a show. The tickets were $130 each. It would never occur to me to ask him to pay for his, since I'm the one who invited him to the show. All I expect is the same in return.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:30 PM
0

Yes, there are polite ways to bring it up. The last time a man wanted me to go dutch, he indicated this when the check came and he said, "Do you have cash? Put X dollars on the table." That is about the least polite way to bring it up possible.
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:19 PM
-3

I don't think we do have gender equality, and I don't think I should have to tolerate that chivalry is dead. Essentially announcing that the age of treating women respectfully is not going to make me give you a free pass to not treat me respectfully. And as for impressing my feelings about past men, it's less about them and more about me. I used to think that I had to take whatever sleazebag happened to come along. I am no longer of that opinion, so I am no longer going to tolerate sleazebaggery…
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:18 PM
0

LMAO! Love it!
/r/seduction18/02/12 11:17 PM
-3

A guy asking a girl out on a date is 1000x more likely than a woman asking a guy out on a date. I've been the one to initiate almost all of my relationships, and yes, I did pay when I was the one doing the inviting. And in fact, in almost all of my past relationships, I've been the only one with an income. I'm just at an age where I'm not willing to put up with that shit any more.
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:53 PM
-8

If a guy wants me to pay for my half of my dinner date and it's a first date, I don't want to see him again. It's fucking rude to ask someone out and then want them to pay their own way, and any man who disagrees is a self-centered pretentious douche. I don't play this ridiculous women's liberation equality bullshit game. We're not equal. Accept your role.
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:52 PM
-8

I don't buy into this women's lib bullshit. When women start getting paid as much as men do for the same work and men start carrying pregnancies, THEN we will be equal. Until then, you can at least buy me a fucking sandwich.
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:50 PM
-3

Alright, someone else to add to my list of men not worthy of my time. Oh, and yes, if I asked a guy out, he COULD expect me to pay.
/r/seduction18/02/12 10:49 PM
-6

As a woman, that is something we pay attention to. If you ask a woman out, you should pay for it. Not doing so is essentially the equivalent of if I invited you to my house for dinner, then only cooked enough food for myself and acted surprised that you didn't bring yourself a meal when I clearly stated that you were coming over for dinner. It's not a "gold digging" issue; it's a politeness issue. If you ask me out for the first date, I expect that you are going to pay for it. I will return the …
/r/seduction18/02/12 09:27 PM
1

Iis it tthe only thing in my way? No, but it is about 90% of it. Is it attainable? I have pretty much spent the past 20 years working towards it - every diet there is, working to exhaustion at the gym, even medical intervention.... And no, it Is not attainable. Someday, I hope to be a ssize 14. It will take years more of suffering, but a 14 may be attainable.
/r/seduction06/02/12 05:06 AM
0

I learned that no matter how awesome I am, it doesn't matter unless I am also a size 6.
/r/seduction06/02/12 01:11 AM
2

I have already wasted years and thousands of dollars on online dating sites and gotten nothing.
/r/seduction06/02/12 12:15 AM
2

I'm reasonably attractive, never married and childless over 30, and not "married" to anything. I just can't catch a break, though, because all the men I meet are taken.
/r/seduction05/02/12 11:15 PM
2

So I should lower my standards AND lie about my age? o.O
/r/seduction05/02/12 08:08 PM
1

Yeah, well, trying to set your standards so high that the only men who meet them are the ones who are already married and have children doesn't smell so great, either. That leaves me with: Lower my standards -OR- Lie about my age.
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:40 PM
1

Thanks. It's a long, hard, road.
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:39 PM
1

This could be helpful if the situation arizes again, but it's more of a historic occurrence. I never meet any single men any more, so more recently, it's, "Why can't my girlfriend/fiancee/wife/etc. be more like you?" (And I want to be like, "Uh, I don't know, how come if I'm what you want, I'm not your girlfriend/fiancee/wife/etc.?")
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:39 PM
1

I'm very pretty, but I'm overweight. I'm a size 18, which is the smallest "plus size" (in the world of women's clothing, size 16 is the largest "regular" size, and 18 is one bigger). I've been working on weight loss for my entire adult life.
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:36 PM
1

The problem is that we are most times to blind to see that what we want is right in front of us all along. How do you fix that? And how do you fix... Assorted Guy Who Knows Me Well: "Wow, Leelluu, you are so awesome that I can't comprehend how you are single!" Me: "That is so sweet of you to say! Do you think that you'd like to get a drink sometime?" AGWKMW: "Oh, I, uh, I didn't mean that I would want do date you. I just don't understand why other guys don't want to date you."
/r/seduction05/02/12 06:40 PM
1

I do! And most of all, there are TONS of engaged men where I work, and when I her them complain constantly about ridiculous things their fiancees put them through, I want to be like, "WHY ARE YOU SIGNING UP FOR THAT SHIT FOR LIFE when someone who wouldn't do that to you is RIGHT HERE?"
/r/seduction05/02/12 06:30 PM
2

Once you hit 30, you're allowed to round by decade.
/r/seduction05/02/12 06:28 PM
2

Trust me, your match is out there. I try and tell myself that about a thousand times a day.
/r/seduction05/02/12 05:19 PM
1

And trust me, there are men out there that are looking for more than just a one night stand or friends with benefits. The problem is that at my age, all the men who wanted that have already found it and gotten married, and what seems to be left are the men who are single because they do not want otherwise.
/r/seduction05/02/12 05:06 PM
2

I guess that makes sense. I don't have an ex to blame things on, though. I've had relationships. I've never been married, though, and the serious relationships I have had were long enough ago to pretty much be irrelevant to my life now.
/r/seduction05/02/12 04:59 PM
4

That makes me angry. Not that these men have larger samples sizes; that part makes sense. What makes me angry is that while I go out there into the world and try and be genuine and honest in trying to find a mate, there are a much larger subset of women going out there acting like huge cunts, which makes men think that I am going to act that way, too.
/r/seduction05/02/12 04:37 PM
4

That is the caveat. Since we're already at the age that we are and don't have a husband, men who are looking for a wife assume that there is a reason why we aren't worth it (or else we would already be married). It's like: you're only good enough for me to marry if you are already married (and therefore not available for me to marry).
/r/seduction05/02/12 04:36 PM
7

I didn't say I've been WITH a woman for 30 years. I said I've BEEN a woman for 30 years! Translation: I was born in 1979 with a vagina.
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:29 PM
4

Having been a woman for some 30 odd years, I am reasonably certain of how I work. What I have read here about shit tests is completely backwards. They ways suggested to respond would lead me to have the opposite reaction you are going for.
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:19 PM
15

As a single woman in her early 30s, I would say the opposite is true. As you age and remain single, your standards go way down.
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:11 PM
-5

You just broke my brain. If a woman demands an apology, you damn well veteran apologize if you want her to speak to you again. Do you not know any women or what?
/r/seduction05/02/12 03:02 PM
1

Okay, you're doing the same thing to me that I was initially speaking against: overgeneralizing! All I intended to convey is that causual sex is only non-damaging if the woman knows it's going to be casual sex. I am not saying that ALL women will be damaged by it or that ALL women want a relationship and that NONE want casual sex. All I was saying was essentially not to lead a woman on and let her think that the sex might lead to a relationship if you don't want it to.
/r/seduction14/01/12 11:58 PM
2

That is only partially true. No strings sex does not damage women who are looking for no strings sex. However, it does serious damage when the man thinks it is no strings sex and the woman thinks that it is just the first amazing night of a whirlwind relationship at its starts. If you don't make it CLEAR that this is gonna be a one time thing, that is the part that is damaging.
/r/seduction14/01/12 05:58 PM
2

Damn, now I have to take up smoking! :-P
/r/seduction07/01/12 12:36 AM
-2

I've never had anyone I was interested in be willing to be with me, so I took what I could get. I would rather cling to something that gives me 10% than drown with 0%. I only ever cheated with the same guy, but he would never have me long-term.
/r/seduction06/01/12 04:14 PM
1

Romantic. Definitely romantic. I want to convey that I'm interested in someone.
/r/seduction06/01/12 01:55 AM
1

Thanks! Although pretty much everything in Class 3 seems weird for a woman to do to a man.
/r/seduction06/01/12 01:47 AM
1

Like, making physical contact with someone to establish a connection.
/r/seduction06/01/12 01:46 AM
0

That dude is massively creepy but he has a very soothing voice.
/r/seduction31/12/11 03:45 PM
4

YAY! Someone thinks I'm young! You made my evening!
/r/seduction30/12/11 12:57 AM
0

No one on the internet needs to see my thighs.
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:17 PM
0

What made you think there would be one?
/r/seduction29/12/11 03:12 PM
0

Not with my thighs!
/r/seduction28/12/11 05:33 PM
0

Thanks! Women need to be able to seduce, too! ;-)
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:25 PM
0

black t-shirts a few pairs of jeans.. + awesome clothes For a woman?
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:02 PM
1

Yeah I don't do one night stands. I am only in the market for long term.
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:44 AM
2

"Younger" is relative. If you're 50, plenty of younger men have their shit together. I'm 32, and I find plenty of men 5 years younger than me that have their shit together.
/r/seduction28/12/11 03:58 AM
0

Yes, why?
/r/seduction28/12/11 03:50 AM
0

I was thinking about my office.
/r/seduction28/12/11 02:28 AM
2

Seem like you have your life together. I'm all for younger men, but not when they work at Target and live with their dad.
/r/seduction27/12/11 08:16 PM
1

o.O
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:11 PM
1

Sex never happens to me.
/r/seduction27/12/11 06:29 PM
1

Do you get retarded responses to the line? Often when i say it, people ask, "How did you do that?!"
/r/seduction27/12/11 03:58 PM
3

You're old enough to be my Monday? :-P Maybe you're older than me; I'm just used to people on Reddit being an average of a decade younger than me.
/r/seduction27/12/11 03:51 PM
1

A consensus has already bean reached, but thanks for offering your services.
/r/seduction27/12/11 03:33 PM
2

No, I am older so I started using it first ans therefor win.
/r/seduction27/12/11 03:24 PM
108

You could use what I use when people say I have nice tits: "Thanks! I grew them myself."
/r/seduction27/12/11 02:11 AM
7

Who is your favorite being? (I was going to say "favorite person", but for some people who experience social issues, their "favorite person" may be their pet). Think about how you treat them. Think about what it would feel like to treat them the way you treat yourself. And then work on treating yourself more like you treat them.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:06 PM
14

This made me facepalm IRL.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:04 PM
5

Maybe it's time to pick out which one you like best and focus on her.
/r/seduction26/12/11 09:58 PM
0

I don't know where you get your info, but as a woman on OKC, I get about 2 messages a month.
/r/seduction24/12/11 01:48 AM
1

I don't mean that I don't have free time. I mean that I don't have LIFE time. Like, being 35 and unmarried is not an acceptable option for me.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:46 PM
1

I only want a relationship.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:45 PM
1

I honestly feel like I don't have time any more. I'm too old to wait any longer to get married.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:30 PM
1

Yeah. And I have the "luck" of getting to be his best friend and share his house but never, ever touch him.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:30 PM
1

The best. And he's 27 and makes 6 figures.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:24 PM
1

He gets guys attention by existing. He got out of a four-year relationship in October. 12 people asked him out THAT WEEKEND. He had more than fifty prospects to choose from. He told me he's never asked anyone out because men always just come to him.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:17 PM
1

I don't know anyone like that. My only real friend is my roommate, and not only does he not like straight bars but also he is about a 9.9 on the hotness scale while I am about a 6, and that seems like a recipe for disaster. Also, if you've really been reading my other posts like you say, I'm sure you've come across the many arguments I've been in trying to convince people that yes, my doctor actually said that weight loss isn't safe or healthy for me.
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:10 PM
1

Well, what do you do when you've only ever experienced rejection? (And I am not young.)
/r/seduction21/12/11 10:04 PM
1

My.... profile? I think I need to learn to have the confidence to ask the type of questions you're suggesting. I used to have it when I was younger, but after literally hundreds of nos and ZERO yeses, I don't have it any more.
/r/seduction21/12/11 09:56 PM
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