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| 1 | A donation drive to help PTSD victims and fund PTSD research. | Action Op. | LieBaron | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 05:01 PM |
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| 4 | PSA, or: what I wish I could have read as an 18 year old reading this shitFurther: By it's nature, a lot of PUA stuff is all about how not to come off as a manipulator, an abuser and a "creep". As such, it attracts a lot of those people, and you be more than a little wary of the people who spend their lives on this shit. Be wary of the misogynists and Red Pill types who have weird ideas about women, and who want to infect you with their weirdness. The whole Alpha\Beta quasi-scientific evolutionary psych schpiel is generally bullshit, and you should take it as a huge w… | /r/seduction | 26/03/15 03:00 PM |
| 1 | For all the people who argue that feminism is synonym to gender equality: doesn't it say a lot how placing the word "radical" before it doesn't exactly intensify the egalitarianism?Because that would involve admitting that feminists fucked up and you can't admit that they've ever made a mistake I sure can. The current wording of vawa is much better than the original, gendered version. But pretending that this was due to feminist malevolence (misandry!) is a huge mistake. Domestic violence is overwhelmingly gendered (inb4 feibert, strauss, good luck explaining the massive difference between hospitalisation rates), and vawa was still a massive improvement. (And of course NOW… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/14 12:31 AM |
| 1 | For all the people who argue that feminism is synonym to gender equality: doesn't it say a lot how placing the word "radical" before it doesn't exactly intensify the egalitarianism?You do realize that has absolutely nothing to do with VAWA, and that without VAWA, the police wouldn't be coming to those houses in the first place? I agree that police response to men's calls when abused are a problem (I've actually faced this problem myself), but the response is to educate police and spread awareness, not to shame the people who are helping female victims. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 11:41 PM |
| 1 | For all the people who argue that feminism is synonym to gender equality: doesn't it say a lot how placing the word "radical" before it doesn't exactly intensify the egalitarianism?Feminists would certainly not describe them that way, though, and VAWA in particular is definitely not discriminatory. (I'd also argue that even if a law benefits one gender more than the other, that does not automatically make it discriminatory) | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 10:16 PM |
| 0 | For all the people who argue that feminism is synonym to gender equality: doesn't it say a lot how placing the word "radical" before it doesn't exactly intensify the egalitarianism?So both liberal and radical feminists support legal inequality (gender specific legislation like VAWA or Title IX)? I'd not describe either of those as legal inequality. As for feminists who spend most of their time battling feminism, I'd personally go with semi-feminists or pseudo-feminist. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 09:28 PM |
| 1 | For all the people who argue that feminism is synonym to gender equality: doesn't it say a lot how placing the word "radical" before it doesn't exactly intensify the egalitarianism?Radical feminism is radical in the sense that it wants to change culture in a way that liberal feminism does not want to change culture; it believes the ultimate cause of inequality is an ideological construction of genders, IE patriarchy. The end goal of radical feminism is the destruction of patriarchy, in the sense of a radically different culture regarding gender and gender norms: They want to dismantle and deconstruct gender roles. Liberal feminists, on the other hand, seek mostly to remove… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 08:55 PM |
| 1 | " In the last 48 hours, at least 10 male callers have narrated their ordeal and have sought advice. However, their requests have been turned down."Something here doesn't add up. If you click through to their other article on the centre you get the following: She said that two males also approached the centre with complaint against their wives and the counselors offered them advice and also summoned their wives for sorting out the issue. One of the sources is in Hindi and puts "harassed" in quotation marks. It sounds like that could mean the people making the obscene calls switched tactics. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/14 12:11 AM |
| 0 | Gender Symmetry in Domestic Violence and why it isn't widely knownYou're accurate in your description of Straus and Feibert as fringe people in their field - for what it's worth, manboobz has an excellent writeup on Feibert (and by extension the claims regarding gender symmetry made by straus) if you google it (I'd link, but I'm not sure that linking to manboobz is allowed). How can a small cabal of agenda driven feminists keep the metaphorical "lid" on the real research for such an extended period of time? They can't, and they don't. You're butting your head … | /r/MensRights | 23/06/14 09:59 PM |
| -7 | Creating a complete rebuttal of feminismHardcore burn, bruh! | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 04:46 PM |
| -6 | 4chan successfully pranks twitter by behaving -exactly like- feminists. Media revises history by pretending that nobody was ever fooled.Eh, -/+ | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 04:30 PM |
| -8 | Creating a complete rebuttal of feminismDude, I'm a male feminist, and you don't really seem to understand feminism. Hell, you even contradict yourself: First you say that feminism always sees men as aggressors and that a feminist framework doesn't leave room for men to be the victims - and then you say that feminists do in fact admit that patriarchy hurts men, too. Could it be that you've misunderstood what feminists mean by patriarchy? I certainly don't think you've really understood it at all - and GWW's videos are like trying to g… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 03:04 PM |
| -8 | 4chan successfully pranks twitter by behaving -exactly like- feminists. Media revises history by pretending that nobody was ever fooled.Meanwhile, AVfM had daffodils for dumpsters day back in 2012. I honestly think that's a very telling contrast in terms of the two movements - Elam is not just an MRA, but apart from Farrell he's the only person who could reasonably be described as the 'leader' of the movement. I don't think you'll be seeing any really prominent feminist saying anything like that anytime soon. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 02:17 PM |
| 0 | 5 Exonerated in Central Park Jogger Case Are to Settle Suit for $40 MillionIt's generally not, though. One of the often-cited statistics relies on a study that included women lying about rape ("This non-descript person that I cannot possibly identify attacked me while out running.") in order to get access to birth control or sometimes to get sympathy. (The study was Kanin, 1994 - it should be noted that no one outside the MRM takes that particular study seriously except as an example of how badly you can mangle this kind of research.) | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 11:26 AM |
| 3 | Actual quotes: add these to the misandry hall of fameHeh. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 02:23 AM |
| 1 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.I'm not aware of anyone who's actually studying the distinction between penetrative assaults and made-to-penetrate assaults. The two have been studied, however, and in the article by Koss et al they compare them, and arrive at the conclusion that they aren't similar enough to be lumped into the same category. It seems to be more a matter of faith backed up by incredibly lazy and solipsistic reasoning. I mean, ditto? So far you've presented no arguments for why being made to penetrate should be c… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/14 12:58 AM |
| 1 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.The onus is on researchers to actually fucking study it they are studying it? What the fuck is your problem? I was merely clarifying why the definitions of rape are what they are. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/14 11:04 PM |
| 0 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.So? The onus is on you to prove that non-penetrative forms of sexual assault are as invasive as penetrative forms of sexual assault. But to repeat the first study "the acts experienced by men lacked the level of force and psychologically distressing impact that women reported". | /r/MensRights | 09/06/14 09:36 PM |
| -2 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.... Did you read them? If so can you give tell me how you arrive at the conclusion that they don't actually back up what I'm saying? | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 11:12 AM |
| -1 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.There's no real reason to say they're not comparable, unless you already have a bias one way or the other. Except for the studies I mentioned, you mean. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 10:18 AM |
| 0 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.I feel like you didn't even read the parts you quoted. In addition to what others have pointed out to you, here's the relevant part from the second study: However, abuse involving intrusive acts (penetration) does predict PTSD symptoms. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 10:08 AM |
| -2 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.People like you are the reason that male victims of female rapists are not taken seriously. People who think that female-on-male sexual assault is a serious crime that should be treated the same as male-on-female sexual assault by the police? | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 09:58 AM |
| -1 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.1: Not only is it (terrible) conjecture, it directly contradicts several of the studies I've already mentioned. 2: The logical consequence of your line of thought is that it would also be worse to beat up someone who had never been bullied or beaten himself, compared to someone who wasn't 'used to it'. 3: I think you've completely misunderstood what feminists and others mean when they say that rape is about power. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 01:28 AM |
| -4 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.the genders of the two involved and the form it takes shouldn't matter from a legal standpoint I agree. all I'm saying is that whether or not is psychologically different or not is irrelevant But they're not 'just' psychologically different, they're two different acts from an objective standpoint. If non-penetrative forms of sex can count as rape for men, why shouldn't they also count as rape for women? Ultimately, I think it would have to be proven that men or women were generally as affected b… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 01:13 AM |
| -8 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.From a legal standpoint, certainly. But I don't think it's useful to think of the two as 1:1 comparable when they aren't. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/14 12:24 AM |
| -7 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.And that's problematic, but there are also some decent reasons for it: You can find some of the reasoning here, under 'heterosexist bias'. The TL;DR is that it would be comparing apples to oranges on several levels - men and women experience it differently, are affected differently by it, report it differently in surveys (in ways that make comparing the statistics hard or impossible), and are treated differently by the law after the fact. Ultimately, 'being penetrated' is how rape has been defin… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 11:29 PM |
| 13 | A debate tactic I'm gettin' real sick of.The CDC study AFAIR uses the definition of rape as penetration through force or the threat of force. Attempted rape is when someone threatens to use force or uses force, but does not manage to penetrate. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Men's rights activist: Feminists have used rape 'as a scam' | Al Jazeera AmericaMore credible-looking, sure, but not actually in any way debunking the study. Hoff-Sommer's entire criticism of rape research hasn't really changed since the 80s/90s, and honestly it's a bit cringey to see her try to interpret questions that specifically includes "when you were unable to consent" as somehow including situations in which respondents consented. Ultimately she's calling for an entirely subjective model of rape, in which only those women or men who explicitly identify themselves as … | /r/MensRights | 07/06/14 12:26 PM |
| 0 | TIL pointing out the double standard of the M&M analogy makes me a racist.Hilarious? More like par for the course. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 09:35 PM |
| 2 | TIL pointing out the double standard of the M&M analogy makes me a racist.To be fair, Caxica is literally a nazi. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 08:38 PM |
| 2 | "Women are used as sex symbols"? How about "People are used as sex symbols"? A large collection of how males are represented in the mediaNope. The vast majority (if not in fact all) of the ads above are targeted at gay men, and what they're selling is a sexy lifestyle and a means of self-expression as gay men. I think it's interesting to see how ineptly the MRM deals with these ads. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 04:44 PM |
| 0 | "Women are used as sex symbols"? How about "People are used as sex symbols"? A large collection of how males are represented in the mediaIf so, that would definitely not fly gender-reversed. Really? That commercial is basically rape by deceit played off as a joke. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/14 04:10 PM |
| 1 | "Enthusiastic consent" laws give a free pass to women to rape men - if "rape"==penetration but not envelopment.Can you elaborate on that? I suspect your process could use some constructive criticism. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 11:49 PM |
| 4 | "Enthusiastic consent" laws give a free pass to women to rape men - if "rape"==penetration but not envelopment.... How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion that feminism is right-wing? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteAgain, the keyword you're ignoring is "interviews..." meaning everything it's based on is self-reporting. You don't think the fact that he didn't even have enough fucking beds for his children seriously undermines your position that he was a fit father? Is that something you would wish for you children? This was not something he found out in an interview - this was something he experienced by going to his house. No matter what cloud you think you can climb to, you're still just another feminist … | /r/MensRights | 13/05/14 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteI am still waiting for an answer, incidentally. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/14 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteYour wall of text is all attributed to 1) Mrs. Mackley, and 2) opinion Did you or did you not read it? I'm seriously beginning to doubt it. The report is based on interviews with both Mr. and Mrs. Mackney, as well as the children and a large number of their acquaintances - it is not 'opinion', it is the recommendation of a trained psychiatric professional with a PhD in psychiatry based on years of work. Hell, here's an account of when Sarnow actually visited the man with the children: Between Ma… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/14 05:00 AM |
| 0 | "I am Worth More"Would they live a decade longer? Which seems to be biological, not social. Have the majority of disposable income? Doing the shopping != controlling the income. Recieve the largest transfer of wealth of any group over 55? That sounds like a claim that needs a looooot of backing up. Recieve full citizenship wutj zero obligation to the state? Women have plenty of responsibilites, same as men. When's the last time you were drafted? If you look ar oppressed groups throughout history they mirror the … | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteYou mean that wall of text that began "Mrs. Mackney said?" Again, you're pointing to a woman's story as if by virtue of her saying it, He's not referencing just her testimony though - if it seems that way, it was a mistake on my part. But I take it that you did not, in fact, read it? Is that correct? You seem to not understand what makes an appeal to authority fallacious. There is no amount of authority that gives one the ability to change fiction to fact, no matter how badly she wants her ficti… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 07:47 PM |
| 0 | "I am Worth More"For women to be under trodden they need to misappropriate the struggles of everyone else. No. And even if it was true, where does that put men's rights? Or are you seriously arguing that men have it worse off than women? The above poster completely missed the fact the humour wsd aimed at the systemic overuse of labels to rank as a victim. That 'overuse' is definitely not systemic. There only 'real' label up there that I've ever heard real people identify as, but which I don't believe is 'real', … | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 07:32 PM |
| 0 | "I am Worth More"activism that suggests just being born male erases every possible disadvantage one could have in life It really doesn't. I think it's an attempt to turn the tables on in a small way and illustrate the problems that minorities face - it's not that it's impossible to pay, it's that it's harder. It's like that story about the teacher who takes his class to the basketball court, and asks them to throw the ball from different distances depending on their race, family income, etc. It's not that it's i… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteTime out; did you even read the parts of the report I posted? At this point I'm assuming you didn't. He was literally harassing not just his on-laws, but the people they worked with, and the people they knew, basically anyone they came into contact with on a daily basis. Your statement about Koss is a fallacious appeal to authority Fuck yes it is. Fact is, there's plenty of information on the study out there, and it's one of the most widely-cited studies on rape ever. Mary Koss is an experienced… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteAttacking a referenced source doesn't do you any good here. The research is solid. If you can't debate the claim it stands. The claim that rape is commonplace is a load of horse shit. The research isn't research, it's a bunch of assertion that don't hold water. I can debate the claim, but then we would be getting rather off topic. Suffice to say that Mary Koss is one of the world's most highly regarded experts on rape, and the attacks on her research amount to nothing but minor points at best - … | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 12:18 PM |
| 0 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteYou have again showed your bias. "Rape is commonplace" is an extraordinary claim based on manufactured evidence. Genderratic is a source on rape like Ken Ham is a source on evolution. The 'bad science' tag at the bottom is perfect, though. Abuse of the custody system by women? Much more commonplace than you'd like to admit Actually, I have no problem admitting that women often abuse the custody and divorce system. Men too. If divorce or custody cases reach a court level, they're bound to be mess… | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 03:39 AM |
| 3 | Feminists file false sexual assault report during "sexual assault awareness week" at my campus. No repercussions for false reporter.Only if the bullets are made of air. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/14 03:15 AM |
| -1 | Feminists file false sexual assault report during "sexual assault awareness week" at my campus. No repercussions for false reporter.I note your lack of concern for these people. What individuals? No one was in danger of anything. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 11:28 PM |
| 0 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide note"I'm willing to admit that whether I think a claim should be questioned or not depends on whether I approve of it to begin with." More like extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Rape is commonplace - conspiracies, by the state, against a single individual, with multiple people in on it for no motive or personal gain? Not so much. is an act of denying his right to have an emotional response to his ex-wife's abusive eviction of him from his children's lives. Bullshit. I'm not denyin… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 09:23 PM |
| 14 | Feminists file false sexual assault report during "sexual assault awareness week" at my campus. No repercussions for false reporter.A) There is absolutely no evidence anywhere that feminists were involved in this. B) No one was actually accused, so what sort of 'repercussions' would be appropriate? | /r/MensRights | 06/05/14 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteAlright, from the top: You are typical of feminist behavior - exhibiting exactly the behavior you criticize as victim blaming and rape apology when a rape accuser's story is even remotely questioned. Huge difference between questioning the statements "I was raped" and "The court is in on a conspiracy to get me." Men should probably just man up and take that, right? I never said any such thing. What happened to this man, and his family, is a tragedy. However, we have no evidence that he was actua… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 10:14 PM |
| 0 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteOr, you know, you could consider what I am saying, like an adult would. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 07:27 PM |
| -2 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteThe fact is of all of us that doctor is best situated to tell if he needed help, and that is his conclusion in very strong terms. Agreed. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteAs far as I can tell, that's not him saying it's the illuminati-controlled courts, but the guy that runs the henry makow blog saying that. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 01:54 PM |
| -2 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteI can't find anything like that in any version of the suicide note, and I've been unable to find anything else tangible? Do you have links? | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 01:42 PM |
| -3 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteThis case is a clear cut case of spousal abuse. It really isn't. We have his words, but no evidence. For all we know, it was a completely normal custody case, and Mackney was a disturbed individual - this is certainly an entirely reasonable conclusion to come to based on his letter, because if this was the case, well, his letter would probably look a lot, or exactly, like the letter we're seeing. I'd even argue that there is some evidence in the letter that Mackney was mentally ill - he seems to… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Step-fathers are nine times more likely to sexually abuse their daughters than biological fathers. Why do we never see feminists argue in favor of stable families?However, nothing makes sense without evolution and like or not humans are a product of our evolution. That doesn't make his thesis any better. Humans minds and societies are far, far too complex for evo-psych to explain most (arguably any) of it. There are far better explanations for this data: 1: Single mothers are more likely to be low-income, and therefore more likely to run into a huge host of social problems: 2: Self-selection among men - men with abusive tendencies tend to seek out opportu… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 11:12 AM |
| 0 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"I personally think that there are lots of pictures out there of me that I don't know about, from parties and social gatherings and so on. It's simply not feasible for most young, socially active people not to have their picture(s) on the internet, but women are far more likely to be the victims of having their pictures uploaded or spread without their consent. It's like saying you should never leave your house alone at night - it's a huge hurdle that most people aren't able to comply with. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 04:31 PM |
| 1 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"Yeah, but even in the example you brought up, she seems to literally be telling him to check his privilege - it's much easier to tell people not to use eg facebook to upload pictures when your own pictures aren't in danger of being stolen. I mean, facebook is a huge part of people's lives (and even if I wanted to take down all pictures of me, I'm not sure I could.) And women much more likely to have their pictures stolen and ogled over, just think of subs like realgirls or any of the many creepe… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 04:05 PM |
| 0 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"A good starting point for where it 'started' is probably this one. Hardly a shutdown tactic. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 02:47 PM |
| -2 | White male student at Princeton responds to repeated requests to "check your privilege"I think the phrase has become something it wasn't meant to be. I really don't think it has. I constantly see MRAs and other groups opposed to social justice issues complain that it's a shutdown tactic - but I never actually see feminists use it that way. At worst, I see feminist use it in the sense that, well, they should check their privilege, and then the person being told sees it as a personal attack. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/14 02:24 PM |
| -1 | The Reaction Of Feminists To A Male Rape VictimYou seem to be disproportionately angry - perhaps you should take a deep breath? No, I don't think that Paul Elam should be ostracised by the MRM because he's offensive. I think he should be ostracised by the MRM because the 'activism' he advocates - singling out individual feminists for harassment and threats ("enough pain" in his own words) - are nothing short of politically motivated intimidation tactics. GET FUCKING USE TO IT OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE TRUE EQUALITY IS COMING WHETH… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 07:00 PM |
| -7 | The Reaction Of Feminists To A Male Rape VictimWell, for lots of reasons. Mostly though, the MRM is just full of people who really don't like women, and especially feminists (the distinction between the two is often fuzzy in MRA discourse) | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 02:47 PM |
| -1 | The Reaction Of Feminists To A Male Rape VictimProviding personal information on someone, such as full name, addresses, phonenumbers, place of work, etc. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 02:18 PM |
| 0 | How to respond to discrimination in a college society.I'm a little confused here. You say you joined because you wanted your fellow students reach their goals. But I assume that one of the specific ways in which SWE helps its female members is by sending them to this conference? And you want them to send you, instead? I mean, you gotta pick one - either you want to help women in engineering, or you want women in engineering to help you. I mean that's like me, a white guy, joining a group dedicated to helping African-American students, and then dema… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 12:22 PM |
| -8 | The Reaction Of Feminists To A Male Rape VictimBuuuuuullshiiiiieeeeeet! Paul Elam talking about criticism of the site register-her, which was entirely devoted to doxxing: Do you think I am going to stop? It’s a serious question, because the answer to that question … should inform you of what will work for you or not work for you in dealing with me. And the answer is, of course, no, I am not going to stop. You see, I find you, as a feminist, to be a loathsome, vile piece of human garbage. I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea o… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 11:58 AM |
| -1 | British academic feminist research paper from 2000 details strategies for 'subverting' services for rape and domestic abuse 'survivors' by 'taking control' of services, 'ensuring the state employs femI agree that it doesn't have a coherent framework, but that certainly doesn't mean that it isn't ideological by any commonsense (and certainly not an academic) use of the word. In another comment you say that the civil rights movement was not ideological, but of course it was - and in fact, it was succesful in part as a result of the fact that it succesfully managed to challenge the dominant ideology of its time, just as feminism has been succesful because it managed to challenge (and is still c… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 12:30 AM |
| 0 | British academic feminist research paper from 2000 details strategies for 'subverting' services for rape and domestic abuse 'survivors' by 'taking control' of services, 'ensuring the state employs femSo basically you are saying that you do not want MRAs to have an influence on men's shelters, male survivors or the way that police and courts treat male abuse victims? And you do not actually want MRAs to set up shelters for men, nor do you want the MRAs in charge of such shelters to be consulted by the police? | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 05:26 PM |
| 6 | British academic feminist research paper from 2000 details strategies for 'subverting' services for rape and domestic abuse 'survivors' by 'taking control' of services, 'ensuring the state employs femThis is about the relationship between state services (police) and volunteer services for rape survivors, and the relationship between the two. The table only really makes sense in the context of the quote it's (bizarrely) inserted into. What she is ultimately saying is that increased feminist involvement with government entities like the police and courts through things like women's networks and support groups (and some of these women being called in as consultants by the police) has led to bot… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsI'm saying that her reaction was stupid. ... Getting PTSD is stupid? Or speaking up about it? And yes, it happens to men as well. For instance, George Zimmerman also claims to have PTSD due to threats and harassment. You can speak up about being harassed without claiming to have a serious condition from it Except, once again, she was actually diagnosed by an actual doctor. What, she's just supposed to hide that fact? | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsWay to be a human rights activist, dude. I'm sure that trivializing harassment, death and rape threats will be remembered as one of the great accomplishments of the MRM. She's toxic. Yeah, she's toxic for.. Getting threatened, I guess? I mean obviously the problem here is her speaking up about getting harassed, and not the people harassing her. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsAnd she doesn't have PTSD. So... there's that. Well, her doctor seems to disagree, so you'll excuse me if I take his word over yours. Seeing how he's a qualified doctor and you seem to think that PTSD can only be caused by combat experience. They go by whatever they can squeeze out of the people they con with their begging. Anita Sarkeesian made over 150k from it, and she wasn't even claiming to be threatened. It's odd how when people have careers, it doesn't matter what they do when they speak … | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsAlso, even then- Threats are not the same as, once again, seeing people die in front of you. She's a professional victim. No one saying it is the same. But PTSD is PTSD. What do professional victims earn? Do they go by the death-threat, or is there some other rate? | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 12:48 PM |
| 4 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWs"on the phone" != "on the internet" I mean, for fuck's sake, there's a reason why cyberharassment and stalking is illegal, and there's a reason why reddit bans doxxing - it's because it's not just "words on the internet", especially when it comes to threats and harassment. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 12:31 PM |
| 4 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsHaha, so edgy, making fun of someone who was harassed and received numerous rape death threats over numerous forms of socal media, including phonecalls, over a matter of months. But nah, she's a feminist, can't actually admit that she has PTSD or else we might have to take a good, hard look at the men's rights movement and the 'activism' it does. I mean, this movement is ostensibly about human rights, but fuck me if I can tell how trivializing the effects of harassment, stalking and cyberstalkin… | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Redditor logically disputes ban on game server after being falsely accused of "cyber rape," a crime created by SJWsSending explicit descriptions of rape to a minor is a-ok with you? | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 11:04 AM |
| 4 | Opinions on this (Read the comments section as well) IT HAPPENED TO ME: I Received Rape Threats After Criticizing a Comic BookIt's almost like different women were subjected to harassment. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/14 10:45 PM |
| 6 | Opinions on this (Read the comments section as well) IT HAPPENED TO ME: I Received Rape Threats After Criticizing a Comic BookAlmost sounds like these professional victims relish the threats because it validates their agenda. Can you find any evidence for her 'relishing' her harassment anywhere? Especially considering the way she actually describes her reaction: "My reaction to the rape threats wasn’t immediately fear. It was more of a Zen-like calm and a sort of “Oh, okay, here I am at that point now” moment." Can you justify calling her a 'professional victim', in light of the fact that she actually makes her living … | /r/MensRights | 27/04/14 06:22 PM |
| 0 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.You seem to be coming from an honest place, so I'll do the same, no snide remarks or nothing: This sub has a long history of trying to skirt reddit's various anti-harassment/doxxing rules. One of the best examples is this one (more here) where the admins stepped in and clearly berated the mods for trying to skirt doxxing rules and encouraging harassment. And this is still going on: One of the current top submissions to this sub is this one - if you read the article it clearly states at the botto… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/14 05:08 PM |
| 1 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.The question then is if you would also consider it rape if he (or she) was forced to use their fingers instead? Current definitions of rape rely on penetration, and if you want an expanded definition for men, you would need an argument as to why such an expansion would not also apply to women - there are a number of sexual acts that you can force on someone without raping them. Currently the research suggests that being made to penetrate is not as psychologically damaging as being penetrated, an… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/14 03:13 PM |
| -4 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.The reasons for only considering penetration victims rape victims are actually pretty good - It's generally more psychologically damaging, for one - in general, male victims of non-penetrative sexual assault do not show the same degree of psychological trauma. Furthermore, female rape is typically (and definitely academically) defined as penetrative, and if you want an expanded definition for men, you will probably also have to expand it for women. This would almost certainly result in a lot of … | /r/MensRights | 25/04/14 08:35 PM |
| -8 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.Holy Schmoly, did I say that you had? But lots of feminists have been harassed by lots of MRAs and other anti-feminists. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/14 08:24 PM |
| -5 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.So in other words, what you're giving me is dismissal of intelligent, polite criticism? | /r/MensRights | 25/04/14 07:59 PM |
| -19 | The front page article in the biggest norwegian newspaper "Aftenposten" today is about a psychologist suggesting that rape should be classified and punished according type and severity. The paper itself calls her brave, and agrees.Identification as a group member rather than as an equal human being, inferring inherent superiority What was this sub called again? r/humanrights? r/egalitarianism? With us or against us mentality Which of course never happens in the MRM... Right? Right? Dismissal of intelligent, polite criticism / discussion I don't even know where to start with that. Considering the sheer number of feminists being harassed and sent death threats, it's hard to take this claim seriously. Acceptance of unproven … | /r/MensRights | 25/04/14 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Leftist rag The Huffington Post runs article about a female teacher raping a male student. The comments are very sadly predictable.It stands for heil hitler, it's extremely common in neo-nazi circles. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Leftist rag The Huffington Post runs article about a female teacher raping a male student. The comments are very sadly predictable.National socialism literally means nazism. He even has 88 in his name for christ's sake! | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 02:42 PM |
| 1 | A donation drive to help PTSD victims and fund PTSD research.Then what exactly would? BBRF is an accredited charity, as seen here and here. Donordrive itself is a software bundles used by EG Doctors without borders and a whole host of other foundations. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 09:19 PM |
| 1 | A donation drive to help PTSD victims and fund PTSD research.There's this, is that enough? | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 08:59 PM |
| 1 | A donation drive to help PTSD victims and fund PTSD research.Fair enough. I didn't see anything in the sidebar. Given the high number of male PTSD sufferers, I figured this would be of interest to this sub. Will you permit it? | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 05:35 PM |
| 2 | I think we can all agree with this.The feminists who are concerned with women in high paying white collar jobs definitely outnumber those concerned with women in blue collar jobs. And why shouldn't they? Women (and men) in white-collar jobs greatly outnumber people in blue-collar jobs - that last article mentions that there's only a single coal-mining woman left with seniority. Furthermore, the number of miners is falling, while other sectors of the economy are expanding (The technology sector, for instance). It makes perfect sen… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Male actors may now have stricter body image requirements than women.I think the biggest change is that we've seen a shift (probably around 300?) towards a focus on muscle definition and being ripped rather than simply being huge. I mean it's not like Johnny Depp is a bundle of muscles - and average-looking male actors are incredibly common compared to average or even overweight actresses - for every Roseanne Barr you have at least 10 John Goodmans. I mean, apart from her there's... Kathy Bates, and Gabourey Sidibe? And their roles are fewer and farer between - I… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 12:24 PM |
| 3 | I think we can all agree with this.but make no mention about a lack of female mechanics, landscapers, coal miners, and other labor intensive jobs. That's simply not true. Here's a recent thread on blue-collar discrimination which should have a number of familiar stories to anyone who's ever actually listened to women in blue-collar jobs. Here's a Purdue feminist study of how women can/do assimilate into blue-collar jobs. Here's a history of the lawsuits by feminists against the federal government needed for women to gain access t… | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Privilege Checking is Classist and IneffectiveI gotta give you credit here. While everyone else here managed to get privilege wrong, you somehow managed to define it as the complete opposite of what it is, namely a suggestion to consider the viewpoints of others. I find it pretty hilarious that you're falling straight into the fallacy fallacy - not all political phrases are thought-terminating clichés, but in this case it's pretty clear that you're using "it's a thought-terminating cliché" as a thought-terminating cliché. Your baloney detec… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?Is she tweeting professionally? As in, tweeting things for her job on her personal account? People who are involved with community-building and activism or even publicity have to be active on twitter - whether or not hers is the official profile of the CFI-DC is irrelevant. CFI-DC also hired her in part because they wanted a more inclusive profile, so there's nothing wrong with her discussing feminism or whatever. That is also a part of her job. edit2; and i'm not trying to justify the aggressor… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?The stimuli which creates her 'post traumatic stress disorder' is something she submits herself to continuously and is a bit on the nose. She is a director for the Center for Inquiry in D.C. Being on Twitter is literally part of her job. More here. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?You understand that given how often feminists have been caught lying about online harassment I'm not inclined to trust her? You understand that given the fact that MRAs have been caught red-handed harassing feminists thousands of times for every false harassment charge, I see no reason not to? (Well, I say 'caught' - more often this harassment is proudly displayed as activism, hence sites like register-her that are dedicated to it) Really clever in middle school. Well, you have replied to like, … | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 09:40 PM |
| -4 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?Sorry where does it prove this was a legitimate diagnosis by a real doctor? She's said on at least one occasion that yes, she was diagnosed by an actual doctor. I have no reason to doubt her. Also if yelling at people for supporting gender politics online can cause PTSD aren't you worried about the health effects of AMR that does little but this? Good lord, are you actually saying that "no, you're the REAL bullies!" ? Or is it that men are strong and tough and can't get PTSD so easily whereas wo… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 09:29 PM |
| -4 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?Because obviously harassment and death threats is the same as being made fun of. I suppose when men get harassed, stalked and develop PTSD, they too need to just man up? | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 09:17 PM |
| 0 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?You're so funny. I mean, you're funny like a creationist making fun of evolution-funny, in that you're mostly showcasing your own ignorance of how mental health issues actually work or what harassment is like, but I chuckled for a good second before I started pitying you. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?1st world problems Again, she has PTSD. Stay classy. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 03:24 PM |
| 0 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?For serious? That's your response? "This woman doesn't have PTSD, because in my totally unqualified opinion you can't get PTSD from harassment." "Dude, she was diagnosed by a doctor and you don't know shit about PTSD." "I WAS JUST, LIKE, DISCUSSING IT, GOD!" I mean, sure, discuss away (or in this particular case, dismiss victims of harassment away), but don't pretend like I'm the bad guy here for pointing out that every single comment in this thread is bullshit victim blaming. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?And your opinion is important, because...? Are you in any way qualified to comment on what can or cannot cause PTSD? I assume (well, at this point I know) that you aren't. Harassment (including online harassment) can give you PTSD, full stop. This woman was harassed. She's been diagnosed with PTSD. Honestly, that should be the end of the discussion. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 02:50 PM |
| 5 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?Well, there's the fact that she was diagnosed with PTSD - but apparently the highly qualified mental health professionals of this sub know better than her own doctor. PTSD is a completely normal outcome of harassment and stalking - are you also going to make fun of male harassment and stalking victims? | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 02:32 PM |
| -8 | Disgusting. Disrespectful Feminist claims PTSD because she is an online feminist?PTSD is a first world problem? | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 02:20 PM |
| 1 | More women whining about female privilege - OKCupid's most popular date Lauren Urasek claims attention is ruining her lifeThe answer to that is no. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/14 01:37 PM |
| 3 | An analysis of Heather McDonald's interesting take on the Campus Rape Myth (including the fact that 73% of women who are considered "raped" by the system do not consider themselves rape victims), combGetting actual, informed discussion on rape statistics from Christian Right blogs is probably a long shot. Here's a good discussion of the fact that many victims go back to their abusers, or do not consider themselves rape victims: http://amptoons.com/blog/2004/05/03/the-iwf-on-mary-koss-rape-research/#research The TL;DR is that most rape is a part of domestic violence, and that DV victims do not necessarily think of their rape as 'rape-rape', but rather see it as 'just' abuse. The age of the st… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/14 06:33 PM |
| 1 | u/red321red321 give an awesome explaination for the need for men's rights and is showered in reddit goldThey definitely are, though. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/14 08:56 AM |
| -6 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?You seem to misunderstand. We're not against men's rights. We're against r/mensrights/the MRM. Equating the MRM and men's rights is like equating the rights of white people and r/whiterights. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 10:37 AM |
| 0 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?What the fuck did you say about me, you little bitch, and so on and so on. I mean, do you have a point here? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 10:26 AM |
| -1 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?And vice versa. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 10:15 AM |
| 0 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?Because you say so, I guess? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 07:25 AM |
| -3 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?Posts to AMR are sufficient proof. Are they though? I mean, you're making a pretty wide-sweeping claim about my character - it should be entirely possible for you to back it up. How is that even marginally surprising? LOL, but I'm the asshole here somehow? CA SB 115 off the top of my head, no search needed. That's hardly an unambiguous example though, is it? IANAL, but it seems like giving sperm donors access to their children is not really something you want to happen. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 07:09 AM |
| -3 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?No, you're a piece of shit person who uses a radical version of feminism as an excuse to be a piece of shit person. I double-dog dare you to back that claim up with a basis in my user history. "hates men Woah, I hate myself now? The MRM is anti feminist only because feminists are anti male. [citation needed] | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 06:50 AM |
| -7 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?I love it that your arguments basically boil down to "Well yeah, but you're a bad feminist." When basically any feminist worth the name will be bad by MRA standards, because the MRM is an anti-feminist movement. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 06:20 AM |
| -3 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?So, in your book, feminists only include AMRers and SRSers? Definitely not. But at least for AMR, it's just average, middle-of-the-road feminism. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:46 AM |
| -9 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?Yes, well, if we count "I'm a feminist, but"-feminists too, we might as well include Warren Farrell. Clearly that seems counterproductive. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:33 AM |
| -13 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?It's, again, not sheer disagreement that gets you treated this way, and it's disingenuous to suggest that it is and whine that you're being unfairly victimized. Was I whining? I'm pretty sure I just said that feminists aren't welcome here - and you seem to be agreeing with me. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/14 12:19 AM |
| -13 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?Even if that's true doesn't it kind of go against the point leftofcentaur was making? "You disagree, so we don't have to be polite!" | /r/MensRights | 03/04/14 11:59 PM |
| -16 | Am I being trolled, or does this "feminist not welcome in /MensRights/" really exist?and they are treated with courtesy and respect Are you serious? Anything that goes against the circlejerk here gets attacked, downvoted or ignored, while I've personally been told to 'fuck off' several times. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/14 11:00 PM |
| 1 | After three waves of feminism why are men still obligated to spend three months of salary on expensive engagement rings?Yeah, visitation rights are pesky. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/14 10:44 PM |
| 0 | been doing research into feminist theory and stumbled across this gem. that this way of thinking is considered scholarly and taught to students is really gonna set us backI think she's saying that the way Einstein thought about light was influenced by masculine gender norms, hence determined as in determinism. It's a pretty vague notion, I admit, but it's neither particularly radical or particularly feminist - I personally think she's wrong in this particular instance, although I don't necessarily think the overall proposition regarding gender norms and science is wrong. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/14 07:10 AM |
| 1 | been doing research into feminist theory and stumbled across this gem. that this way of thinking is considered scholarly and taught to students is really gonna set us backAlso no Copenhagen School of music theory - it's almost like different areas of study develop differently. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/14 06:52 AM |
| -1 | been doing research into feminist theory and stumbled across this gem. that this way of thinking is considered scholarly and taught to students is really gonna set us backI think you completely misunderstood what I said. Imo, she is saying that gender norms and gender roles have an influence on the way that scientists choose to describe the universe, and what they choose to describe. That doesn't mean that scientists are wrong, or that she is saying scientists are wrong. She is only talking about the discourse, you understand? Incidentially, she is also not saying that E=mc<sup>2</sup> is 'sexist' or anything like that. I personally don't agree with her (or at le… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/14 06:42 AM |
| -12 | been doing research into feminist theory and stumbled across this gem. that this way of thinking is considered scholarly and taught to students is really gonna set us backHaving read a bit more of her, and having actually read Derrida etc, I think she's being taken completely out of context and/or completely misrepresented. She's trying to describe basic cultural attitudes towards science as an essentially masculine field. She's saying that the fact that we value 'hard' sciences and 'hardness' in and of itself is even evident in the way that scientists choose to describe reality. I think her example here is incredibly bad, at least the way she phrases it, but I d… | /r/MensRights | 01/04/14 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?... On my shelf, since I read it years ago as part as my introduction to the philosophy of science. Damn boy, conclusions much? | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 05:00 AM |
| 0 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?You sound like you just looked those words up on Wikipedia. And you sound like you're just repeating right-wing talking points. For what it's worth I did not just look these terms up on wikipedia - I have a primer on Continential Theory right here next to me. The point is, to support feminism, you must rely on shaky philosophical foundations. Must I? That seems like the kind of claims you'd should be able to back up. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/14 01:53 AM |
| -4 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?Hooo boy. You replied a whole bunch of times (6! Really?) to my posts here - I'll just answer you here for brevity's sake. They are forced to present a biased picture because academia has for so long been conspiring to disregard evidence of gender symmetry in sexual and domestic violence that the culture of academia itself has become the source of the problem. In essence, what you're saying is that there's a conspiracy (well, you're literally using the word 'conspire'). I am honestly not certain… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 05:07 PM |
| -1 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?No, sorry, this is very often reversed in the humanities. That's a bold claim. Do you have anything to back it up...? If you look at the philosophy on which these things are based, you will find a lot of continental 'theory', irrationalism, and anti-empiricism. Not bodies of work in good repute in analytic philosophy or the hard sciences, by any stretch. Irrationalism? Are you saying that the humanities are working from a Romantic or Nietzschean framework? But yes - some Continental Theory. As f… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 02:52 PM |
| -1 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?Another way of saying that is that all opposition to it is suppressed. The impulse is to censor contrary views - this is particularly obvious here on Reddit. Do I need to point out that this is a very weak basis for establishing reliability? It's not. Feminism is well-regarded by virtue of its explanatory power - there really is no other framework with which to interpret gender in the social or cultural sphere. It should also be noted that there's a variety of articles being published every day … | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 02:36 PM |
| -2 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?However, as far as I know, "feminism" - by which I presume you mean well known feminists - don't seem to have come up with that sort of prediction. Feminism and feminist thought has largely defined the way gender is perceived in the humanities. It's not so much that individual researchers are feminists, as the fact that feminism is a completely accepted theoretical framework to work from - it's like saying 'evolutionism' in a context of biological research. Anyone who deals with gender in a soci… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 12:47 PM |
| -6 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?You can start here. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 11:16 AM |
| -3 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?A very good example in my opinion is turn-taking in conversation. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 11:04 AM |
| -3 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?Well, there are several problems that the MRM faces in order to become accepted in academia. Full disclaimer - I am a male feminist with some training in gender studies, though it is not my main area of interest or study. The good news To the extent that the MRM has any real insights, they will be proven right. Academics are researchers first, and ideologues second. That your worldview does not correspond with what researchers, academics and experts are saying does not mean that they are conspir… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 09:09 AM |
| -12 | Can we have a serious discussion about Academia?In short, people who cannot contribute meaningfully to society will have an axe to grind which they will take out by advocating for any labelled as "oppressed" and their vested interest only increases. You mean the way the MRM is fighting for 'oppressed' men? | /r/MensRights | 28/03/14 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Rape isn't always called rape, in CAnada you won't be charged with rape, you'd be charged with sexual assault. Calling it rape doesn't mean it isn't a sexual assault even though rape doesn't have sexual assault in the name. You figure out where this is going yet? Yes! Another round on the Carousel of Semantics! Wheeeeeeee! First of all, sexual assault and assault are not the same thing at all. Second of all, you are now comparing "sexual assault" and "aggravated sexual assault", two completely d… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 10:56 PM |
| -1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)"torture and aggravated mayhem -- with sentence enhancement for causing great bodily injury" Huh, how about that, you're wrong again. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 03:39 AM |
| -1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Go look up the word sexual assault. Ok. Again, chopping someone's genitals off its a sexual assault. "A statutory offense that provides that it is a crime to knowingly cause another person to engage in an unwanted sexual act by force or threat" So in other words no. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 03:28 AM |
| 0 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Again you keep showing you don't understand basic things It's hard to have simple definitions when the world is complex, buddy. If your understanding of sexual assault is simpler than mine, it's probably because you seem to know a lot less about the subject. Sexual assaults can range in seriousness from relatively harmless groping, to the most serious of which is not rape. Except that's not really a definition that anyone else uses, so have fun with that. Once you get into things like child abus… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Ohmygod, you finally understood. I am so happy. An entirely meaningless statement unless you believe that sexual assault is something less serious than rape. Obviously all forms of sexual assault are serious, but definitions of sexual assault (as opposed to as an euphemism of rape) pretty consistently refer to 'lesser' forms of sexual assault - rainn uses the definition "unwanted sexual contact that stops short of rape or attempted rape. This includes sexual touching and fondling", while the NCV… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Just at least admit that having your cock and balls cut off is at least as bad as what you call rape for women. Because this is obviously a position I've been arguing against this whole time. It's not like I said that your previous appeal to emotion was both terrible and traumatic. I like it when you pretend that I'm arguing that victims are not traumatized by these horrifically violent scenarios you dream up. I've only ever argued that all else being equal, 'being made to penetrate' is a less s… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)So long then, and thanks for all the fish. You gave me a real insight into how your side really is incapable of dealing with any of the arguments and points presented to you. All you can do is take 3 steps into an argument and then just keep walking back around and around and around. Can't say I am that surprised. Holy fucking shit likewise. This has quite literally been like debating evolution with a die-hard believer in creationism. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)I don't even understand what you are saying here to give a response to it. Admitting is the first step! Good for you! | /r/MensRights | 27/03/14 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Earlier, you said that your definition of rape was forced sex. For women, that's literally exactly what we're discussing. You're essentially saying that even by your own definition of rape, it's not necessarily a traumatic experience when women are raped. I have sources that back up my claim that 'being forced to penetrate' is more comparable to sexual assault than rape, and you've essentially replied with "but you can't know that for sure*, with nary a nod to the fact that I've got studies to b… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Some women you classify as rape will just shrug it off, because your definition is so fucking broad. It's your own definition. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)That isnt a violation and traumatic? Yes, I totally said that boys aren't traumatised when they are sexually assaulted. I totally did. Somewhere, I totally said that. Of course it's traumatic, you lunatic. But so is any level of sexual assault - that doesn't actually make all sexual assault rape. Oh Im very glad you noticed that!! You correctly identify it as denying women agency, and then you actually went ahead and actually made the exact argument. Amazing! Yes, saying that rape is a traumatic… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)What's ignorant? That a woman could be considered raped by someone like Koss but the person in question could not only not feel raped, but legitimately feel no violation, and not feel any emotional or physical trauma. It's ignorant because it's pretty obvious you've never actually read any survivor accounts. Like I said before: The invasive aspect of being penetrated is one of the worst aspects - and being made to penetrate is not invasive in the same way. Nothing is inside your body. Now, with … | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Uhhh.... and if that did not result in physical or emotional trauma, See, there we have your ignorance again. That's neat. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)I think you meant innumeracy there, champ. [lecture about physical vs. emotional trauma] I didn't say it damaged their bodies. I said it violated them. Honestly, you don't really seem to be arguing anything, other than that I must be wrong, no matter what I actually say, and that feminists are distorting facts. rephrasing something that was perfectly understandable the first time. Honestly dude, you're one of the worst writers I've ever seen. Ignorant, verbose and smug about both. I don't think … | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Honestly dude, you're making it more and more obvious you haven't read the fucking studies involved. The fact that women didn't consider themselves rape victims doesn't mean they weren't rape victims, and were therefore traumatized. You're comparing apples and oranges when you're comparing women's self-identification as rape victims and men's self-report of the symptoms of sexual abuse. Come back when you've read the fucking studies instead of these bullshit "welp, the feminist are probably dist… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Again - penetration. There are a number of reasons why 'penetration' is the measure by which we define rape (it's more invasive and hence traumatic, a greater violation of others' bodies), and you have continually ignored those reasons. This is not something I 'feel' like is different, this is something that the actual research into the question is suggesting (the invasive aspects are often emphasised by rape victims, for instance). So yes, I can totally "justify why". Once again, since you have… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Koss' definition includes penetration? But it doesn't 'include' penetration. Koss is counting women who are penetrated without consent as rape victims - and those women only. Not handjobs, for instance. Because all else being equal, that's a more traumatic/more severe worse form of sexual assault, and it's a relatively objective measure (trying to include a 'how traumatised were you' scale would be a very subjective measure) Fair enough, you seem to be arguing that such a question is necessary, … | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)In short.... if we apply you justification of why men being forced to penetrate someone should never be considered rape, then if that measure is applied equally and consistently to women then we must reject by that same measure women we would have previously classified as raped. Nope. Koss' definition of rape consistently includes penetration, if we assume that women are penetrated during intercourse - again, it helps to read the studies you're trying to criticise. I quote from her original stud… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)I have been and you have been giving me justifications that you use to reject the idea that it should be considered rape. But justifications you wont use when we look at what should and should not be considered rape for women. You are yet to even acknowledge let alone justify that you have selective rules for women compared to men. Except I don't. Where have I argued that women who aren't penetrated are rape victims? | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)If you skipped all the irrelevant hand waving prose you'd have barely anything to say. I'm glad we agree that most of what you've been writing is irrelevant hand waving prose. At any rate, found the problem: ... Oh FFS... So is it severity or is it trauma that we measure what is and isnt rape? Both, motherfucker. It's both, because oddly enough they are related. This is exactly what I meant when I said you were far more interested in semantics than in actually trying to understand what I'm sayin… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/14 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)You cant do it, that's why your responses keep chopping the meat out all my replies. Because most of your replies are you asserting that you definitely get what I'm saying, rephrasing what I'm saying, and then mercilessly attacking your completely idiotic version of what I'm saying: such as here: I do realise that they don't consider it rape. What I was actually trying to do was make my exact position clear to you, because honestly you didn't seem to understand what I was saying - as patronising… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)If you say that what makes something rape is the level of trauma sustained to that person then one of your problems I pointed out is that people like Koss do not ask about the level of trauma experienced by the respondants. Because that would be another study - in fact, the studies that I referenced in the last link I sent you. Koss was studying prevalence of certain forms of sexual assault, and argues that "being made to penetrate" and "being penetrated" are two different degrees of sexual assa… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Now tell me why it should not be considered rape. That's what I did. It's a different form of sexual assault. Ultimately I'm basing this on the studies done on it by scientists. It doesn't matter if men generally felt no trauma. That has no bearing on what is and isn't rape when it comes to whether you consider a woman raped, does it? Yes, of course it does. If you're just groping a woman, it's not rape. But honestly dude, you're also arguing against your own definition of rape ('forced sex'). Y… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Additionally, if the level of trauma is what makes it rape Is it so hard for you to understand that being penetrated and being made to penetrate are two different forms of sexual assault, both legally, psychologically and in terms of severity? Additionally, if you read the studies they cite (by now I realize this is a long shot - you don't seem to want to know more about this subject than what is absolutely necessary for you to dismiss whatever the experts in the field have to say), you'll see t… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)(Although men may sometimes sexually penetrate women when ambivalent about their own desires, these acts fail to meet legal definitions of rape that are based on penetration of the body of the victim. Furthermore, the data indicate that men's experiences of pressured sex are qualitatively different from women's experiences of rape. Specifically, the acts experienced by men lacked the level of force and psychologically distressing impact that women reported (Struckman-Johnson, 1988; Struckman-Joh… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Koss' justification for why men being forced to have sex should not be considered rape, is that they are not being penetrated. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)If a woman is having unwanted sex, she is by definition being penetrated, you ass. That's why, for women unwanted sex = being penetrated = rape. Men can have unwanted sex without being penetrated. I do wish you paid attention. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)That is your claim. You don't get to just make a claim and then act like that's all that is necessary. Well, no. You're literally arguing against the academic consensus because it disagrees with your worldview. You're free to do that, of course, but that's pretty much the definition of science denialism. (From wikipedia: "In science, denialism has been defined as the rejection of basic concepts that are undisputed and well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a topic in favor of ideas … | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)If I'm so wrong, and your position so well accepted, you should be able to find some reasonable logical justification for treating the subject this way. But you cant do that, can you? Horses and water and all that. You've repeatedly ignored my point that there aren't any real problems with the questions in Koss' study (or at least not the ones we have been talking about - there are other, realy, flaws), you continually muddle your definitions (sexual assault, rape and statutory things are differ… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/14 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)That's funny, because you clearly refuse to address any of the critical questions in this debate. What critical questions? You haven't actually made any criticisms that I (and plenty others, seeing as you're just parroting early 90's conservative talking points) haven't addressed, but you've refused to move on from my answers. And you've continually asserted that the studies we are dealing with are not made in good faith, in spite of the fact that Koss is widely respected in academia. And once a… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/14 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Is he also too drunk to meaningful consent? You were super clever when you mimicked the things I wrote, except of course for the part where you think that people who are too drunk to consent are also capable of pursuing others. you claim the latter wouldn't be traumatic as the former. Not my claim... Which again you'd know if you'd read the CDC study. If they are so self deluded about their rape not being a rape, then they wouldn't have ticked the "I was forced to have sex" box. Except people to… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/14 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)If rape is sex when you didnt want to, and everyone knows that. Honestly dude, do you even have a better definition yourself? Although, again, you're removing context in order to misrepresent what the actual question was. Then why isnt it rape if, for example, an older woman were to force an 11 year old boy to have sex with her and gets her pregnant and gives him HIV. Nope, he's just havung unwanted sex with a woman. That's not rape. Dude, statutory rape and rape are not the same thing. Do you s… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/14 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)"When you didn't want to" is never a measure for rape no matter how you spin it. That was also not the only question they asked, as I told you. I know. I'm the one who started quoting the actual questions, remember? Again, you seem to deliberately interpreting the question without context. People understand that "when you didn't want to" doesn't mean "that one time when you were kind of tired." You want to bet you're not half as skeptical when it comes to the studies you do like? Koss believes n… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/14 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Are you now arguing that women answered 'yes' to the question because they had rough sex? Because that suggests that you have some incredibly weird views on how people interpret questions in context (or in your case, a particularly literalist contextlessness). When people are taking a survey about rape and violence, they are probably not going to interpret questions about "force" as referring to rough sex. These questions are not difficult to interpret - except if you're overly literal and despe… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/14 02:19 AM |
| 1 | 1 page of my assigned reading for a required class. Apparently, being a housewife is comparable to being a "prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp."The American experience of war is pretty unique. On the Eastern front, and in Asia, rape was incredibly widespread (as it has been for almost every war in human history) - consider, for instance, that wikipedia notes over 1300 rapes in 10 days of American occupation of Japan - and that this was considered surprisingly lenient. On the other hand, around 2 million german women and girls were raped by the Red Army, and in some areas of Poland 50% of all women were raped. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/14 06:35 PM |
| -2 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Huh. That's a nice bit of fuckery you're doing there. The full quotes are of course "when you didn’t want to because a man threatened or used some degree of physical force (twisting your arm, holding you down, etc) to make you?" source As noted here, one in 5 answered yes to those questions. The 1-in-4 came from an admittedly too-broad question about drugs or alcohol - it should be noted that. Either you are a lying sack of shit or you swallowed way, way too much kool-aid. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/14 03:19 PM |
| -6 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)Self-identification as a victim is irrelevant to victimhood. Victims can (and often will) deny that they are victimised, in spite of the fact that they show the symptoms associated with rape victims (anxiety, depression, PTSD). If you'd actually read Koss' study, you'd find that this is exactly why she does it (and why every other researcher who works with psychological issues does the same thing). The study also does not ask "have you ever had sex that you later regretted" - that particular boo… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/14 01:05 AM |
| -25 | Tumblrinas post wildly inaccurate graph about rape statistics, gets destroyed by reality. (x-post from /r/tumblrinaction)The final graph is completely wrong. The 'unreported' number isn't guessing - it's based on victim surveys. That's not padding - in fact, it's a necessary step in discussing any crime, except maybe murder. Calling the 'reported' number 'inconclusive' is also wildly misleading - if no one is convicted, that doesn't we can't conclusively say a woman was raped - it only means we can't find the rapist. Once again, 'MRA' turns out to be an acronym for 'Male Rape Apologist'. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/14 05:40 PM |
| -5 | Why do people look down on /r/mensrightsIf Karen Straughan is the closest thing your movement has to an intellectual, your movement is lost. I'd argue that it's already lost the second your best outcome is that it becomes less misogynistic, though, and this is definitely the case. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 10:18 PM |
| -6 | Why do people look down on /r/mensrightsThat doesn't really say anything about the nature of the MRM. Most of the people in againstmensrights admit that men do face some issues - I've personally had the 'police not responding' problem as well. But that doesn't make the MRM any less of a shitty, misogynistic parody of an actual movement. For every guy on this sub that wants an actual discussion of the issues that face men (and perhaps even activism), there are hundreds who just want an excuse for their misogyny. It doesn't help that wh… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Female philosophy student receives a college job offer, responds with requests for outrageous concessions, then blames the menz when her requests cause the college to rescind their offer.If you actually read the source where they got that from, these are apparently not really outrageous demands in the field (nevermind that she's only mentioning them as possibilities, and makes it clear that she's realizes that she probably won't be getting all of them). At most, she's too blunt in her tone. And it's not like our perception of tone changes depending on gender, right? | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Females privileged over males in highschool? My experience as told by a highschoolerWas your friend named Albert Einstein, by any chance? | /r/MensRights | 17/03/14 04:51 PM |
| 5 | When did Cracked.com become so feminist?He really doesn't. I mean, he acts like John Cheese is some poor working sod kept down by Evil Boss David Wong - but Wong and Cheese are friends to the extent that John Cheese is John from John Dies At The End. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 01:58 AM |
| -1 | David Wong & friends censor Anita Sarkeesian's art theft debacle, claim it being a "MRA conspiracy" (xpost from /r/tumblrinaction)Or just, y'know, if it's funny. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 07:33 AM |
| -1 | David Wong & friends censor Anita Sarkeesian's art theft debacle, claim it being a "MRA conspiracy" (xpost from /r/tumblrinaction)Really? David Wong wrote a book where door-knobs magically turned into dicks. I'm 100% sure that another article about horrifying sex toys would be welcomed. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/14 07:03 AM |
| 0 | As a relatively new advocate for mens rights, What are some of the reasons the movement has not been more effective in changing legislation that is pro mens Rights? [serious]For what it's worth I know exactly what the MRM is about, and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to characterise the 'movement' as a hategroup. At best it's an anti-academic crank movement on par with homeopathy or creationism - and like all crank movements ultimately motivated by the secret fears of its members. At its worst, its misogynistic, creepy, more than a little rapey. There's also a huge number of outright racists and neo-nazis in the sub (there's plenty of regulars who also post to whit… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/14 05:44 AM |
| 0 | Similarities between Anti-MRAs, Flat Earthers, and Geocentrists. Are they back in the dark ages?You're looking at it wrong: Flat earthers and geocentrists see themselves as brave people speaking truth to power - and they are laughed out of the room by everyone and anyone who deals with these matters in academia. The same is true of the men's right movement, it is no more and no less a crank movement than creationism or flat-earthers. You're completely right that this is because crank movements are unable to look past appearances of course - many MRAs look at their own lives, conclude they … | /r/MensRights | 16/01/14 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Why does whiteness matter?Are you also against affirmative action for minorities? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/14 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Why does whiteness matter?Except I think there are plenty of white people who have never considered that there is a stereotype that white people are hardworking, and that this works in their favor. Like you said - white people don't have to think about the fact that they're white. I think this is a pretty good list of some male privileges. http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ | /r/MensRights | 15/01/14 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Why does whiteness matter?... I suppose we could call privileges the unspoken, positive stereotypes that exist for dominant groups - EG, if black people are perceived to be lazy, that means that white people aren't. EDIT: Just to clarify, that is not a comprehensive definition. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/14 11:28 AM |
| 0 | Why does whiteness matter?For what it's worth, the ideas around intersectionality were developed by an African-American woman, Kimberlé Crenshaw. It is not the same and it angers me when people try to group all of it under the same umbrella. Racism and sexism are not the same, agreed. However, they work in much the same ways, and benefit the same people - academics both in and out of gender studies consistently conceptualize them as analogous - they are both oppressive systems that are largely or exclusively social in na… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/14 07:34 PM |
| -5 | Why does whiteness matter?Full disclaimer, this is going to be a rather long post. I'm a white, male feminist, and I'm going to try to answer your as earnestly as possible. To the rest of you, that also means that I don't plan to engage with any comments you might have - I really am just here to talk to OP. In one of your posts, you write that white people have been blessed with not having to pay attention to the colour of their skin - and you're right, we don't. And people treat us better for it, especially in the US, w… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/14 08:49 AM |
| 0 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsDo you fucking understand that men can get stalked too, and do so regularly? As a male stalking victim, I'd describe my understanding of male stalking victims' circumstances as 'uncomfortably intimate' - whereas you seem to be in denial that it's very, very common for women to be stalked and harassed. At any rate, it seems kind of irrelevant to this discussion that men can be stalking victims too, though I'm not denying it. Also, I never intended to virgin-shame you (really, you brought virginit… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsUntil they revealed they were beta, jobless etc. FTFY. No, until they started crossing these women's personal boundaries. Again: Have you ever had a conversation with a woman, ever, or do you get all your dating tips from TRP? Yes it does, because it should tell you whether they're a threat, or just lovelorn. Except, of course, that plenty of 'lovelorn' people have done terrible things to the people they supposedly loved. Your entire final paragraph. One time, my brother had a slapping competiti… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsLook, firstly, if those 'beautiful womens' stalkers looked like Ryan Gosling, you know full fucking well they wouldn't be describing them as such. I see we're getting our knowledge of gender relations from SNL now. I know no such thing - in fact, I've heard plenty of women talk about how they've been attracted to men until they started creeping. Secondly, most 'stalkers' are exes fucking with your voicemail - shit we've all had that kind of rubbish. Nope, got lots of ex stories too - ranging fro… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsAnd once again, /r/mensrights fails to distinguish between female and feminist. I mean, you could at least have gone with Solanas or something. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/14 01:31 AM |
| -1 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsWait, she's a liar? The links you're posting just seem to suggest that she disagrees with MRAs. Finally, when women accuse a man of being a 'stalker' or 'creepy' you need to understand how potentially dangerous this is. It's what can, and does - frequently - lead to those men losing their lives (often at the hands of other men), being violently attacked or losing their liberty (where they will serve a sentence 2/3 longer than a woman found guilty of the same crime). Not a single part of that is … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsThe article also says directly that there are no direct threats made against these women. But as I said, it's entirely possible to harass someone without threatening them. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsThat's a pretty terrible defense, seeing as you're both. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 09:50 PM |
| -1 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsA red flag as to erratic, manipulative or otherwise creepy behaviour. At any rate, he hadn't threatened them directly (as per the article) - but that's not a requirement for harassment. It is entirely possible to harass someone without ever threatening them directly - like 'big red' getting anonymous messages about her dead dog being disappointed in her. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 01:08 PM |
| -2 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsFair enough, that just leaves register-her, the harassment of 'big red' and about a million other things. But I guess that MRAs are a subset of antifeminists in general, at least in the aggregate. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 12:57 PM |
| -1 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsradical Poisoning the well. Also, citation needed. lying [citation needed] abusive [citation needed] feminist Ok, so that's 1/4 right. I give you an F+. Also, 'several hours' != 'several months'. I was a stalking victim, and it really grinds you down - it's completely different from any confrontation of any kind I've ever had. You're also completely ignoring the fact that he approached them under false pretenses - and then you call the feminists lying? As for anti-feminist violence, I can think … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 12:32 PM |
| -4 | Toronto man faces charges for insulting tweets aimed at feministsIt's almost like a brief confrontation at a political rally (however pitched) is completely different from harassing a single individual for months- especially someone that you've met in real life. Also more than a little odd that an anti-feminist would show up for a pro-feminist job position in the first place - what was the end-game there? Did he meet them under false pretenses? That's a pretty serious red flag. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Anti-assault "Know Your IX" campaign on twitter paints MRAs as reactionaries; mocks people worried about false rape accusations as potential rapistsI... What? Nevermind; Tagging you as insane. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 05:12 AM |
| 0 | Anti-assault "Know Your IX" campaign on twitter paints MRAs as reactionaries; mocks people worried about false rape accusations as potential rapistsHonestly dude, you couldn't sound crazier even if you had written that with newspaper clippings. The MRM is hated (and laughed at, and despised) because it's a bunch of misogynists appropriating the discourse of a civil rights movement, much like 'white rights movements'. Nah, I'm just messing with you. It's all about the pussy passes. It's what Dworkin fought for, it's what De Beauvoir fought for, and by golly, it's what I fight for! | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 01:50 AM |
| -5 | "The idea of the 'gaming community,' and its endemic misogyny, transphobia and rape culture, all need to die...". Any response from MRA to this?Super trained guys, who are rough, macho, and absolutely alpha. Really? Blanka, E. Honda, Vega and Dhalsim would like a word with you. I mean honestly, your entire argument here hinges on ignoring all the characters that don't support your argument - but when the feminist argument is that male characters are far more varied and far less one-dimensional, your entire methodology (if you can even call it that) rather falls apart. Because your argument literally is that once you take away the non-ge… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 07:54 PM |
| -3 | Anti-assault "Know Your IX" campaign on twitter paints MRAs as reactionaries; mocks people worried about false rape accusations as potential rapistsIf we were judgmental of them, we would be hated for it. I think we can agree that one of the reasons the MRM is hated is because of its opposition to anti-rape campaigns, yes. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 07:18 PM |
| 0 | Anti-assault "Know Your IX" campaign on twitter paints MRAs as reactionaries; mocks people worried about false rape accusations as potential rapistsit had no right to be judgmental of the MRM, I'm pretty sure that right is called freedom of speech. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/14 06:51 PM |
| -6 | Is it wrong that I like proving feminists wrong?Creationism and 'evolutionism' are indeed like feminism and the MRM, in that one of them is a crank movement with no academic support at all, and the other is firmly established and accepted in academia. | /r/MensRights | 15/12/13 07:38 PM |
| 1 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussionThey did the culture shift through diversity promotion. I think that's a more effective approach. Get some minorities and women in the mix and we're on our way. ... You mean affirmative action? | /r/MensRights | 06/12/13 12:04 AM |
| -1 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussion1: All the bouncers have been trained at the Bouncer's Association, and so they all learn to be racist there. So firing the individual bouncer isn't a solution, as all the other bouncers are just as bad. 2: But then you get exactly what you get in real life - a set of rules which are fair and objective on paper, but which are racist in practice. Vague criteria are used to cull the undesired individuals - they "don't fit the image of the club", they have an attitude, their shoes are wrong, etcete… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/13 08:07 AM |
| 1 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussionUh, 'as a weapon'? What? But seriously though, good job never actually addressing my actual arguments and instead either misunderstanding or misrepresenting my standpoint - what do you think that our hypothetical nightclub owner should do in order to stop the racism going on in his club? And just to make it clear, the bouncer is a metaphor for institutional bias, so 'firing him' is not really an option. Should the owner try to educate his bouncer to be less racist? That might take years (generat… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/13 08:31 PM |
| -1 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussionSaying that any decision 'based on race' is inherently racist is an incredibly naïve and simplistic way to look at these things, especially since it's so often used as a way to recast anti-racism or the mere act of acknowledging racism as inherently racist. Again: Would that club-owner who told his bouncer to let in at least 10 percent minorities be racist? Is that a decision 'based on race'? Of course not. It's a decision that acknowledges systemic racism on the bouncer's part and seeks to addr… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/13 07:54 PM |
| -2 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussion'Stamping out' sexism and racism requires a cultural change, and that cultural change revolves, in part, around the privileged acknowledging their privilege, acknowledging that they are part of racist and/or sexist institutions. What diversity directors actually do is suggest and plan ways for institutions to do something about these issues, which may or may not include quotas or what have you. But quotas are not inherently racist - if you are a night club owner and your bouncer is only letting … | /r/MensRights | 04/12/13 05:48 PM |
| 1 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussionWhat an ass-backwards statement. Diversity directors literally work to ensure that institutions take actual steps towards inclusivity and diversity. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, unless you think that acknowledging racism or sexism is inherently sexist - in which case you're going to have a hard time defending your presence in a sub which ostensibly fights against sexism against men. | /r/MensRights | 04/12/13 04:12 PM |
| 12 | MCTC prof reprimanded for alienating white students during structural racism discussionThere's apparently a pretty ugly history of more or less overt racism in that place - including a noose being hung in the school paper newsroom. Their previous diversity director quit due to a hostile work environment - it's pretty clear that there's racism going on in this place. It's absurd that she's being reprimanded for singling anyone out, as nothing suggests that she did, at least not based on anything I have been able to find online - including op-eds and articles by students at the inst… | /r/MensRights | 03/12/13 11:09 PM |
| 5 | White men openly hated in ChicagoWait, and then you spend your free time here?? | /r/MensRights | 21/11/13 03:50 AM |
| 1 | "How Feminism Hurts Men" - a male feminists attempt at satireAlright, from the top: 1: The fact that someone says they were only joking doesn't mean that they were in fact only joking. "I was just joking around" doesn't fly on the playground, much less when you're an adult. 2: I'm not even sure what you mean by 'structurally'. Is or was Elam ever funny? No. 3: Yes. Strongly. 4: Yes. In fact, I think this is a strong reason to condemn Elam, as it's extremely easy to 5: So? Does the fact that he's a provocateur mean that he's not a sincere provocateur? If I… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/13 08:30 PM |
| 1 | "How Feminism Hurts Men" - a male feminists attempt at satireThat still doesn't leave you any wriggle room for AVfM. Also top lel that you brought up confirmation bias. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/13 04:17 PM |
| -1 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.And people would launch the same criticisms of many wild feminists - talking about a giant conspiracy of men colluding to oppress women, blatantly leaving out obvious details about the wage gap like conspiracy theorists selectively present ideas, making circular references to Patriarchy like Christians do to God. That's not what patriarchy means. See, this is exactly what I meant when I said that MRAs have no understanding of either feminism or the underlying theories. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 03:43 PM |
| 2 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Alright, you wrote a very, very long wall of text, so this is going to jump a little back and forth. First of all, the reason I have a 'simplistic' understanding of MRA arguments is that A: MRA arguments are simple (men have it hard too!) and B: MRA arguments or criticism of feminism consistently boil down misunderstanding or mischaracterising feminist arguments ('feminists argue that women shouldn't go to the authorities', notwithstanding that there's a huge difference between saying that autho… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 11:54 PM |
| 0 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Even if I accepted that they were supposed to be 'half' satirical (how the fuck is something half satire, anyway? It either is or isn't), that doesn't make a difference. Claiming 'satire' is the adult equivalent of schoolyard bullies going "What's-a matter? Can't take a joke?" - especially when the supposed 'satire' lines up perfectly with a string of shitty statements from all over the MRM - from 'date fraud' to 'creepshaming'. And here's what an actual professor had to say: “What they are doin… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 09:41 PM |
| -5 | 10 Ways to Be a Better Male Feminist - Exactly what you'd expect from Huff Po.Yes, there are many men who have lost their livelihoods and friends because a single woman said 'he makes me feel uncomfortable'. Many many. So many, in fact, that you will not have any problem finding citations for it. | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 07:02 PM |
| 2 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.This is the kind of comment that makes me more confident about the position of the MRM, because of how poor the opposition is at understanding basic things. At the very least I expect basic understanding of the other position. Ironically, I feel the same way. Especially the last part is rather telling: I can't count the times I've seen MRAs make a claim like "something bad happened to me, therefore male privilege doesn't exist." Or argued that rape culture isn't a thing "because people think rap… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 06:35 PM |
| 0 | 10 Ways to Be a Better Male Feminist - Exactly what you'd expect from Huff Po.Dude, what the fuck were you planning since you had to change your plans in order to not be accused of rape? | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 05:34 PM |
| 0 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Alright, from the top: It's entirely possible to support men's causes without supporting the MRM - I pay money to the local men's shelter, but I'm not an MRA. Similarly, lots of people who work for and with men's causes disavow the MRM for the same reasons I don't - there's just too much misogyny in it. And good for CAFE. I'll start clapping once they open it. Do I have to remind you how the tropes against men kickstarter went? Do you have any other sources on her being subjected to death threat… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 05:03 PM |
| 1 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Is clearwater even an MRA? And does CAFE even do anything except put out propaganda? But yes, I can - the largest feminist organisation here in denmark is helping fund research into masculinity, and also lobbied to increase men's ability to take a maternity leave. As an actual victim of actual bias against men, I do recognise that there are issues that our society could work on. But that doesn't excuse this movement from its consistent misogyny, nor does it excuse its virulent anti-feminism and … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 08:38 PM |
| 1 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Yours is an intellectually devoid movement of angry teenagers circle jerking in an echo chamber over nonsense. Pretty sure it's the other way around. Remember - feminism has support in academia, unlike the MRM. I mean, you can get conspiratory about that fact if you want, like the creationists and the climate deniers, but isn't it easier to just accept facts? | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 08:22 PM |
| 5 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.It's almost as if those places are meant to be places where feminists can have a conversation without being bothered by the members of the MRA hate movement. Almost. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 08:04 PM |
| 1 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Alright. I wish they'd be for men instead of against women, and I wish they'd be against rape instead of against rape convictions, and finally I wish they'd be activists instead of just an echo chamber, though only if the other two were true. Was that constructive enough? I have more! | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 08:02 PM |
| 2 | I am at a total loss for words. In fact, I'm practically devastated. Wake up, Patrick Stewart. I expect more from you.Well, no one ever said it to you, that's not really the same thing as no one ever saying it. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many Men's Rights activists deny the need for a White Rights movement?Noooope, we can trace 'western civilization' to at least the Greeks, so around 3000 years ago. Of course, 'western civilization' was never nearly as insular as people like to imagine, and there were a lot of influences from Persian and African peoples and thinkers in antiquity and before. People were trading and talking and marrying each other from Copenhagen to Baghdad for thousands of years. And that process is still going on. Most of the people I live with in my dorm are not Danes, and a larg… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many Men's Rights activists deny the need for a White Rights movement?Defeat sort of implies a battle, doesn't it? To the extent that we can use 'battle' as a metaphor for what we're doing now, I'd argue that I KO'ed you in the first thirty seconds when you were about seven thousand years off in your understanding of very, very basic history. I mean.. People also laugh when they're winning. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 01:40 AM |
| -6 | Man arrested after fight with girl in Totnes (rest of the jolly green giant story)Sure, I have absolutely no problem with the both of them being arrested. As for your absurd and violent fantasies, I'd prefer it if you and your girlfriend kept it to the bedroom, not really into the whole emasculation thing. But you have fun with it, pal :) | /r/MensRights | 05/11/13 01:59 AM |
| -5 | Man arrested after fight with girl in Totnes (rest of the jolly green giant story)I'm guessing because people here are cheering on or defending a 29-year old man who punched a 16-year old girl half his size through glass. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/13 01:31 AM |
| 0 | Why do so many Men's Rights activists deny the need for a White Rights movement?Actually, this is pretty funny too. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/13 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many Men's Rights activists deny the need for a White Rights movement?LOL | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many Men's Rights activists deny the need for a White Rights movement?10's of thousands? At most 3. But then having a knowledge of history would probably preclude you from being quite so obviously racist. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Salon's Mary Elizabeth Williams slut shames Robin ThickeDid he just call blurred lines great art? | /r/MensRights | 27/10/13 02:13 AM |
| 4 | Men, We Need A FrameworkI love it when MRAs show their true anti-intellectual colours. Truly, you lot are to sociology what creationism is to biology. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 06:35 PM |
| 6 | Honey Badger Radio: Anita and the Scourge of the Girl GamerThere's absolutely no doubt that the rhetoric he used was feminist, though. He specifically discussed the privilege of male groups. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."Just an FYI, I actually study psychology. For what it's worth, there's evidence that certain genes make people tend toward certain behaviours such as aggression, but it's incredibly hard to say anything much more general than that from a genetic standpoint. But evolutionary psychology, at least as it's prevalent in the public (and there's a big difference between the public understanding of the field and the actual field) is pretty much bunk, and is inextricably linked to wrong ideas about hunte… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."I'm saying that whatever biological tendencies we have be described in terms of a pack of wolves. People aren't wolves. We have an immensity of cultural and cognitive influences that make such categories useless. The brain is incredibly plastic, and it's extremely hard to draw hard boundaries between innate tendencies and cultural conditioning. But yes, 'alpha' is a pretty useless term. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."Doesn't change anything - people are still vastly more complex than that. It's a meaningless term mostly used to prop up traditionalist models of masculinity as being grounded in some sort of inherent biological tendency of men and women. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 04:47 PM |
| 3 | Honey Badger Radio: Anita and the Scourge of the Girl GamerDavid Gaider wrote a pretty epic takedown of straight white dudes, surely BioWare will never sell another game ever again. /s Also, the Tomb Raider gamers were sexist as hell. Can you imagine a young Indiana Jones being nearly as panicked? Better yet: Compare the reactions of the Far Cry 3 protagonist and Croft's reactions to violence. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Men, We Need A FrameworkDo all the sociologists at your institution base their theories on Macbeth? Or do you occasionally throw in a little Twelfth Night or Hamlet? I mean seriously though, you don't even seem to understand such a basic sociological concept as power. Bro, do you even Foucault? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 02:21 PM |
| 15 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."The whole alpha vs. beta vs. gamma vs. whatever is a huge fuckup. People are vastly more complex than that, and our confidence and social standing varies wildly pretty much from moment to moment. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 01:39 AM |
| 13 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."Honestly, the way you feel about the red pill crowd is probably very similar to how everyone outside the MRM feels about MRAs, and for the same reasons. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 01:36 AM |
| 6 | A question of 'Rape Culture'In some cases, I'm guessing it's because they'd then have to acknowledge their own attitudes as a part of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 11:04 PM |
| 2 | A question of 'Rape Culture'Patriarchy really is just shorthand for the gender roles and norms that influence us. It's not a conspiracy theory regarding some nefarious cabal of patriarchs. And historically, all societies have favoured men over women - women have been excluded from the workforce, the military, and the political process. I don't think it's true that men have worse working conditions. Or do you think that the millions of women who work in factories (particularly the textile industry) the world over have easy … | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 10:37 PM |
| 3 | A question of 'Rape Culture'I strongly disagree that people would not mind to see an accused rapist assaulted - look at Maryville or Steubenville for two cases where people have banded together around a rapist, against the victims. Instead, people deny that rape occured at all, and villify victims as manipulators and liars who want attention or money. I also strongly disagree that people who were mugged are disbelieved or assaulted are blamed in the same way that victims of sexual assault are, and even if it were the case,… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 07:27 PM |
| 5 | A question of 'Rape Culture'I think you've completely misunderstood the feminist position on alcohol and consent. People above a certain level of intoxication are unable to consent - EG if they're unable to talk clearly, walk properly, etc. This goes for men and women both. Feminists aren't arguing that people who are drinking cannot have sex, but that if you're at all in doubt as to whether your partner is too drunk, you should probably not have sex with him or her, and that even if they seem into it, they might not be ab… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 05:25 PM |
| -3 | A question of 'Rape Culture'I posted a comment in this thread, here's a link: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1ow5i7/a_question_of_rape_culture/ccwe2ev I'd also like to say that asking /r/MensRights about rape culture is a lot like asking /r/Creationist about micro/macro-evolution. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 04:40 PM |
| 6 | A question of 'Rape Culture'Actually, that's pretty much exactly what rape culture is - and certainly how it's used in academia. Here's an example, and here's another. I don't have access to them, but here's the abstract of the second article: This research departs from the familiar assumption that rape is an inherent tendency of male nature, and begins with the assumption that human sexual behavior, though based in a biological need, is an expression of cultural forces. The incidence, meaning, and function of rape in a cr… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/13 04:25 PM |
| 1 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityDo you have anything, anything at all, to back that up? Also, lol at feminism being anywhere near as powerful as religion, that is hilarious. Also lol at feminism being a conservative force, when it is progressive pretty much by definition (go to /r/progressive and make that assertion - have fun!) | /r/MensRights | 13/10/13 04:01 PM |
| 1 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityBecause when you're discussing, say, rape victims or domestic abuse victims, or the assault on women in politics, it makes so much sense to talk about the actions that women do to put themselves in those situtations. Extreme /S Feminists are explicitly trying to steer the conversation over to the actions of perpetrators, not victims, because our culture tends to focus on the actions of the victims as somehow justifying whatever happened to them - I'm sure you've heard the frankly idiotic metapho… | /r/MensRights | 12/10/13 03:31 AM |
| 3 | Study: Women choose feminist and social studies because they are for them, not against science, technology, engineering, and math.She means get out of the MRM. Feminists do. There's not much focus on men's issues because, well, women's issues are much larger and most feminists are women - but there's not really a dismissal of men's issues the way many MRAs pretend. Here in Denmark, for instance, the main feminist organisation has lobbied for men to get equal access to the state-paid pregnancy leaves, and contribute money to a men and masculinity research center. I also think feminists are the people who are doing the actua… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/13 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Anyone from Denmark here? I am looking for the title of a Danish bookActually, I was just being facetious, Carl-Mar is something of a joke, as is Hans Bonde, but if you really want to do some good for men's actual rights here in Denmark, here's a list of DV shelters for men: http://mandecentret.dk/ Here's a think-tank devoted to masculinity: http://www.taenketankenvm.dk/ (You'll notice it's sponsored in part by Kvinfo - don't believe the general Danish MRA nonsense about state feminism as bad for men.) | /r/MensRights | 04/10/13 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Anyone from Denmark here? I am looking for the title of a Danish bookI guess Mandfjols.dk is probably the best source for all things MRA in Denmark. Or maybe read the Breivik Manifesto? | /r/MensRights | 03/10/13 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Anyone from Denmark here? I am looking for the title of a Danish bookCarl-Mar Møller? Probably the most well-known MRA type in Denmark. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/13 09:11 PM |
| 2 | TIL that of the 20 richest women in the world, all of them except #17, inherited their money from either their husband or their father. (xpost TIL)The MRA anthem! | /r/MensRights | 01/10/13 09:51 PM |
| 1 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityHey, come now, I didn't say you were pathetic. Your arguments are a little lacking, but I'm sure you've got all sorts of things going for you. Maybe. I'm not saying there aren't other factors - no amount of outreach or education is going to make a sociopath a non-sociopath - but the fact that abuse victims are more likely to commit rape doesn't actually mean that other people won't as well. It also doesn't follow that abuse victims' behaviours aren't influenced by the culture we live in. Also, t… | /r/MensRights | 01/10/13 09:40 AM |
| 2 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityA, That is a false equivalency - to the extent that black males commit a disproportionate number of crimes, that is an effect of historical and continuing racism and marginalization. The same cannot be said for men committing the largest number of rapes. Do you have any sources on the Alberta thing? Any at all? No digging has uncovered anything. Honestly, I think it's a little funny that you won't support a corresponding poster against men - I mean, it's strictly true that men can be bad people … | /r/MensRights | 01/10/13 01:24 AM |
| -1 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityBut men do need to be taught not to rape. Women too, but the vast majority of rapists are men - and the (in)famous Don't Be That Guy posters worked. Really well. I suppose we could argue semantics instead of having a meaningful discussion about this poster - do you not see the difference between emphasizing the negative the way this poster does, and making the simple statement that men and women both are capable of bad things? Do you think you would feel the same way if the genders were flipped … | /r/MensRights | 29/09/13 01:26 AM |
| -2 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityDid you miss the part of the picture that wallowed in how bad women were? | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 11:10 PM |
| 0 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityDid you just argue that feminists support the idea that women aren't smart enough to commit crimes? Also, I literally just argued that there are non-misogynistic MRAs. That doesn't do jack-shit for the fact that your movement as a whole is rampant with it. PS lol, 'white knight' | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 08:10 PM |
| -2 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityCertainly, but they're not really 'things' in the sense that they're societal phenomena that we can do something about. When fathers seek custody, for instance, they are more likely to get it - and at any rate we always put the interest of the child first, which is one reason why default joint custody is such a terrible idea, because it ignores this principle. False rape accusations are vanishingly rare, certainly compared to actual rapes - and I'm honestly not sure there's anything to be done e… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 07:54 PM |
| -2 | X-post from /r/AnythingGoesPics on gender equalityIn our defense, pretty hard to take people seriously when they call you feminazis, and the movement as a whole is RIFE with misogyny and rape apologia. Hell, even this picture is all about how women are bad, and I saw it on r/all - sure, there are 'bad' women out there, but the way that the MRM seems to dwell on and wallow in it is more than a little off-putting - it's downright creepy. And it's characteristic of the movement as a whole. We men face issues, yes, and I've faced them myself (here … | /r/MensRights | 28/09/13 04:52 PM |
| 0 | /u/LittleOctopus asks "why can't we all just get along?" As suggested, cross-posts on /r/feminism... Post deleted within 29mins. Guess that's the answer.Nope. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/13 04:19 PM |
| 0 | /u/LittleOctopus asks "why can't we all just get along?" As suggested, cross-posts on /r/feminism... Post deleted within 29mins. Guess that's the answer.Please, their entire paradigm is insane. They hit no closer to home than the ravings of /r/conspiracy. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/13 03:37 PM |
| 1 | /u/LittleOctopus asks "why can't we all just get along?" As suggested, cross-posts on /r/feminism... Post deleted within 29mins. Guess that's the answer.YES! Honestly, I'd make the font bigger to emphasize the point, but your screen isn't big enough unless you're browsing reddit in a cinema. Describing /r/TheRedPill as infantile and autistic would be an insult to children's depth of thought and the social abilities of autistic people. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/13 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Fun fact: It's pretty easy to deconstruct notions of 'natural' vs. 'dangerous', which is one reason why doctors don't do it. Erectile dysfunction is plenty natural and not at all dangerous, unlike pregnancy which puts a lot of stress on a woman's body, and can be fatal. Still though, pretending that most abortions are due to 'laziness or stupidity' is one of the more misogynistic things I've read in a while, and completely ignores the reality of the choices that women face, and the fact that pro… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/13 11:24 AM |
| 7 | Now the feminists want to control our erections and vasectomies. Do men get any say when it comes to our own sexual organs? (xpost from /r/politics)Hey man, can you get me numbers on pregnancy related deaths vs. erectile dysfunction related deaths per year? Because pregnancies are dangerous, doofus (and childbirth is, too!) Erectile dysfunction... Not so much. Hell, pretty sure popping a boner is actually more dangerous than not popping it. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/13 02:33 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on my post "5 ways feminism is destroying our way of life"?Of course I am not serious. | /r/MensRights | 24/06/13 08:35 AM |
| 5 | Thoughts on my post "5 ways feminism is destroying our way of life"?I'm so glad I read this, I was a male feminist before but you totally convinced me. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/13 05:39 PM |
| 0 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenYou seem like a nice and reasonable person. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 06:32 PM |
| -1 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young women[citation needed] - I mean I did a little digging, and apparently the 44% figure comes from either misunderstanding or deliberately fudging data. I have yet to see any source outside MRA echo chambers agree with it. I agree that women are about as likely to hit their partner as men are. Male on female systematic abuse is still far more prevalent than female on male. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 02:08 PM |
| -1 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenHis point was literally that feminists didn't say 'all men' because then they would be called on it. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 01:06 PM |
| -2 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenI'm sorry, what was your point with that? Did you think that he made a reasonable point about feminism? | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 12:53 PM |
| -4 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenIf by "dogmatic" you mean "don't usually change their minds when some MRA comes by with the latest MRA talking point," then sure. I've yet to meet an MRA who was able to criticize what feminists actually say, it's always some bullshit about how feminists demonize men or won't help us or some bullshit. I like to compare it to creationists "criticizing" evolutionary theory. There are a lot of parralels, in fact: both MRAs and creationists are railing against concepts which have a long history in t… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 11:15 AM |
| -1 | Ontario schools will offer gender studies, thanks to five young womenThat'd be great advice, except you've got the wrong idea about the idea you're hating. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/13 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Help me stop caving into starting a relationship with girls I don't care about because I don't want to hurt them.You just need to learn that you have to respect your own wishes, that you have to respect your own boundaries, and that you hurt them more by giving them false hope. And you have to make your intentions and wishes clear from the start. | /r/seduction | 27/02/13 03:04 PM |
| 14 | How to game during class?Hey man - pay attention in class! You can bone ladies in your free time! | /r/seduction | 26/02/13 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Sex isn't the goal. Attraction is the goal, and sex is the reward.I think I see what you're getting at, but the way you phrase it makes it seems like if there isn't sex, there isn't attraction. What I think you're trying to say is that instead of focusing on the goal, you should focus on getting there, which is a cool and zen thing to say, and doesn't have that slight undercurrent of entitlement. | /r/seduction | 25/02/13 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Doing pick-up for 3 years, enormously successful for weeks but then one flake sets me into a spiral of depression. Seriously starting to hate women.Upfront: I strongly suspect that there was more going on than you let on, or that you yourself realize. I strongly suspect that you came off as desperate or even unstable. If indeed you are depressed GO SEE A DOCTOR. Depression is an actual disease, with treatments available. It also sounds to me like you sound entitled to a relationship. Maybe this is because my reading is tinted, I was just reading this link and this link, both of their stories remind me of yours. You still seem to think of wo… | /r/seduction | 24/02/13 04:14 PM |
| 1 | I'm a freshman in college and I've become the campus creeper. How can I change my reputation to a positive one?Just let it go for a while. Stop thinking about women, stop hitting on them, and hang with your buds while you improve in other ways. It'll blow over. | /r/seduction | 19/02/13 06:56 PM |
| 3 | How to Make Strong, Unforgettable Eye ContactITT: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcs15q7ueS1r36uqb.jpg Seriously though, I liked the article. | /r/seduction | 13/02/13 10:22 PM |
| 7 | Just changed my outlook on fighting/AMOG-ing and want to get some confirmationConfirm. Also - you sound like an asshole, and not in a good way. | /r/seduction | 08/01/13 08:31 AM |
| 8 | Wisdom from Psychopaths. "The trick is to stop your brain from running on ahead of you."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy : "Although there are behavioral similarities, psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) according to criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders are not synonymous. A diagnosis of ASPD is based on behavioral patterns, whereas psychopathy measurements also include more indirect personality characteristics. The diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder covers two to three times as many prisoners as are rated as psy… | /r/seduction | 08/01/13 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Approaching a "mean" or "cold" girl..it's like the whole interaction was a stream of shit tests.Alright, first things first: You cannot help this girl. Not as a friend, not as a lover, not as anything. You cannot 'fix' her, or rescure her, or anything like that, even if that is your impulse (and on some level, that SHOULD be your impulse.) She probably needs a therapist, and even a therapist might not be able to help her. You can be her friend, though, and her lover. The former is probably much, much easier than the latter. And if you are even a little hesitant, back the fuck out, the soon… | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 10:55 PM |
| 1 | My life is not the same as it was 2 months ago. Looking for what I think will be the last "puzzle piece" to complete me.http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SxOWbk0JlJI/TWMnGSeypUI/AAAAAAAAACI/RQtTpRmue_k/s1600/ted+mosby.jpg | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Problems with having game...You can definitely change the way you act, though, and over time your brain will re-wire. The brain, in fact, is remarkably pliable in this regard - this is why therapy can help with depression, which is also 'a neuro structural thing'. | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 08:25 AM |
| 2 | My life is not the same as it was 2 months ago. Looking for what I think will be the last "puzzle piece" to complete me.Are you in Texas now though? Because I'm getting Ted Mosby vibes here. I imagine they would be a dealbreaker to many women. | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Problems with having game...Alright, a lay every two months is not a particularly bad statistic. It sounds fairly average, actually. So maybe you game doesn't suck... It depends on how many women you've approached. You also seem to have self-esteem issues - there is a lot of 'never' in your post. You can change. But you have to identify your mistakes. Are you out sarging with others? Are they helping you? | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 06:22 AM |
| 2 | My life is not the same as it was 2 months ago. Looking for what I think will be the last "puzzle piece" to complete me.Being surrounded by girls is good, especially if they are attractive and like you. Use their status to up your own - and don't fuck anything up with any of them, especially as it seems you know their husbands. Just have one under each arm as you enter the club and try to have fun with them. Just have fun - if you are having a good time, go talk to some women. And yes, just talk to the girls about helping you meet other girls. They'll be rooting for you. Oh, and for the love of god, ditch the cow… | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Seddit just hit 100,000 subscribers a few seconds ago. What has been your favourite post ever made here?Might I suggest (again) the approach that MFA takes? (I described it here, but I do not know if you read it: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/160tbu/seddit_just_hit_100000_subscribers_a_few_seconds/c7ruje4 ) In particular, I think adding a tier like MFA's consistent contributors lets you create more of a community feeling... As for creating new content, isn't that the community's own responsibility? People will fight to the death for a piece of coloured ribbon, as Napoleon said.. Or in… | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 05:51 AM |
| 2 | On AA: "Just approach! What's the worst that can happen?" This. A field report, sort of.While I agree with you, I have to say that I would love it if salespeople chased me down with hookahs. | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 05:01 AM |
| 3 | Seddit just hit 100,000 subscribers a few seconds ago. What has been your favourite post ever made here?Since people are discussing possible directions for the sub (and since I don't have a favourite post), might I butt in with my two cents? Maybe add something like the consistent contributor thing they have on /r/mfa? And possibly some more stuff in the sidebar, arranged by level of difficulty (IE beginner, intermediate, advanced, master, for example) and type of game (daygame, clubs, parties, work), maybe even something like what was discussed below (by area and nationality, by age, etc). Also, … | /r/seduction | 06/01/13 04:43 AM |
| 1 | most English-speakers are still on that same playground, calling boys smelly and girls icky, while sneaking behind a tree to kiss each other.The thing is, the girls that like teasing and flirting will not stop like those things once you are in a relationship with them. Girls (and women) that like this kind of back-and-forth will never stop wanting (indeed, needing in terms of relationship) it. For many guys, it's a deal-breaker as well if girls aren't into it - I like teasing my partners. And to many of us, it's fun outside of the context of flirting - some of my male friends and I love to tease each other in various ways, although o… | /r/seduction | 04/01/13 10:09 PM |
| 1 | most English-speakers are still on that same playground, calling boys smelly and girls icky, while sneaking behind a tree to kiss each other.I read that as English-teachers, and since that's what I'll be from next year, I was a bit confused, and also felt somewhat singled out. | /r/seduction | 04/01/13 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Researchers put PUA material to peer review. Turns out it's all pretty much based on solid research and scientific evidence!Spot on. I'd also say that ethical concerns are a huge factor as to why these things are not being tested 'clinically'. On another level, pua theory gets a lot of stuff from the humanities, being that what a lot of seduction is about is discourse in one way or another - IE, presenting yourself in a certain way, etc. Hell 'framing' is a term taken straight from discourse analysis. Oddly, and somewhat perversely, I think 'pua theory' at some point ought to converge with feminism and gender studies… | /r/seduction | 04/01/13 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Every time I get this girl to go out, I gotta jump through all these verbal hoops. How do you handle it?"Of course you will, I'm the most interesting guy you know." Or something along those lines. | /r/seduction | 04/01/13 02:01 AM |
| 4 | Researchers put PUA material to peer review. Turns out it's all pretty much based on solid research and scientific evidence!The main problems with pua 'theory' is the NLP and evo psych stuff - many of the particulars are based on actual research. | /r/seduction | 04/01/13 01:57 AM |
| 1 | What do you talk about right after you approach?They're normal topics, which is the problem - you want to set yourself apart. Have the other conversations later. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 06:17 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeI don't deny that - what I'm saying is that it's a fairly useless stereotype. That said, some men and women will go to great lengths to fit in. And not brainwashing; culture. And culture is fairly malleable - it isn't long ago that pink was manly, and blue was girly, for instance. I have yet to see an evo psych argument for most of the specifics of male or female behaviour, but cultural analysis tends to offer a great deal of insight into gender norms. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 05:09 AM |
| 0 | This archive is well worth your timeAh yes, the common outlier called 'a university student'. I'm pretty sure my not being a complete bro-type doesn't actually make me an outlier. My point is this: You cannot move from the aggregate to the individual level. Even if you think that there is a trend towards men liking sports, a large enough number of men will just not give a flying fuck that pretending that 'all men like sports' (or even men in general) will be counter-productive. But if the (false) stereotype is prevalent enough, yo… | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 05:02 AM |
| 0 | This archive is well worth your timeMost of my friends don't particularly care about cars or sports, and in my experience sexual preference varies wildly - though many dudes go for the ones they are expected to go for, out of fear of being shamed (in other words, your false stereotypes are self-fulfilling prophecies to the extent that they are true). I'd also wager that most men like sex, although the same is true for women... Just like both sexes like breathing, pissing, pooping and eating. (actually, pooping's kind of a bore, yo… | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 04:11 AM |
| 0 | This archive is well worth your timeLiterally only one of those apply to me. Well done on undermining your own argument. TL;DR - they are merely false stereotypes. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 03:00 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your time.. Wait, why are you on Seddit? Just to improve your social skills? Honest question. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 02:48 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeSo you wrote a guide on 'how to trick women' so that you could afterwards accuse people of not reading the article when they called you out on being a shitbag of a human being? And not only that, but you did it on a website so craptacular that they published the above article on Solomon? Was that just to add to the trick? Were you trying to put yourself in the worst possible light for this 'discourse', just for a challenge? | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 02:47 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeAnyone in his right mind? The post itself is filled with misognyny, and there are plenty of people here praising it. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 12:40 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeYes. It's the asshole overlap of men's right activism and the worst parts of seduction.. Imagine that if your shits could throw up, then it'd be the product. | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 12:36 AM |
| -1 | This archive is well worth your timeOh, but I did - and I'm left all a-boggled as to why you'd choose those words if you did not, in fact, want to trick women. Perhaps you should go take a long, hard look in the mirror? | /r/seduction | 03/01/13 12:27 AM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeThat depends on whether you think that the above article constitutes "knowledge" - but it doesn't. It's a bit like saying you will try any training regimen that works for you, not realizing that some exercises are dangerous in the long run. Not the best metaphor in the world, but hopefully I get my point across: Thinking about women in this way might help you short term, but will definitely fuck you up. More to the point, it's wrong - women do not work the way described above, even if acting lik… | /r/seduction | 02/01/13 09:04 PM |
| 1 | This archive is well worth your timeWow... Such utter bullshit, I have only rarely read. Holy shit does that guy have trust issues (and self-esteem issues, too) - the reason why women say they want a nice guy is that this is what women THINK they want - they're not elaborately laying some trap for nice guys. But it seems that to this guy, women are pure evil, and he's remade himself as some sort of sociopathic ladies' man to accomodate. How sad. His dick must be the smallest thing in the universe. Of course, that's basically what … | /r/seduction | 02/01/13 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Comfort/Attraction building game: Top ThreeSame! Knew I wasn't the only one! | /r/seduction | 18/12/12 11:35 PM |
| 2 | [FR] The naked manTwist: Once she herself got naked, she was a man. | /r/seduction | 17/12/12 12:51 AM |
| 2 | How does one deal with a relapse of their one-itis ?Ps your old republic name is hilarious :D | /r/seduction | 14/12/12 03:22 AM |
| 2 | How does one deal with a relapse of their one-itis ?Colour me impressed! Hope it goes well with the ex, although if she left you for another guy, I don't see why you want to. First true relationship of yours, I'm guessing? Those are always shiitily tough to get over. I find that most people interested in seduction or self help in general ought to take an interest in fashion, or at least enough of one to follow malefashionadvice - but then, fashion's quite interesting to me, at the moment certainly much more than pickup ever was, even when I first… | /r/seduction | 14/12/12 03:15 AM |
| -1 | How does one deal with a relapse of their one-itis ?Dude, seeing that post - not a good conversation starter, at all. "So, did you see that I got so sad that I had to buy a cat, and also I asked these pick up artist creeps for advice on how to get over you" is not displaying high value, it's displaying very very low value. Sorry, but that's a hard truth that you have to face. I do hope your mother is better, I have been there myself. Oh, also, if that picture is what you still look like... Cut the goatee, start following r/malefashionadvice and g… | /r/seduction | 14/12/12 02:54 AM |
| 1 | How does one deal with a relapse of their one-itis ?If there is a shot (and we haven't a clue) then go for it, if that is indeed what you want. But it does sound like you are still the guy that she rejected, a month is not long to improve yourself, and I'm guessing you are very young. Go make sweet love to someone else, then see if she's still the one you want. | /r/seduction | 14/12/12 02:03 AM |
| 6 | How does one deal with a relapse of their one-itis ?Your approach sounds healthier. one-itis is only a disease if there's no chance of it happening. | /r/seduction | 14/12/12 02:00 AM |
| 14 | Ever dreamed of seducing Italian women? Be my guests.Caesarian americans. | /r/seduction | 13/12/12 06:14 PM |
| 1 | [Quotes] "When women love us, they forgive us everything, even our crimes. When they do not love us, they forgive us nothing, Not even our virtues." - Honré de BalzacWhy... Why would anyone downvote you for that? :( | /r/seduction | 12/12/12 08:32 PM |
| 3 | On the "dark side" of seduction.I know I'm not the only feminist on here, and I'm glad to see this stance from mods. The thing about PUA is that it gives you quite a bit of power, and not that much of an ethical orientation for how to use that power. I'm reminded of the jedi and the sith. Actually, maybe a good, recurring thread on ethics would not be a bad thing. | /r/seduction | 11/12/12 07:50 PM |
| 3 | How to make it clear you are interested in her sexually, without looking like a perv?I was saddened to see how many people took me seriously. | /r/seduction | 03/12/12 10:40 AM |
| 6 | How to make it clear you are interested in her sexually, without looking like a perv?You think? But i wrote field tested brah! | /r/seduction | 03/12/12 10:40 AM |
| 13 | How to make it clear you are interested in her sexually, without looking like a perv?What you want to do is invite her out for a night of heavy drinking - call it a girl's night out. Repeatedly tell her that she is one of the best friends that you've ever had. Then, at some point during your binge drinking (let's be honest here; you're the one who'll be drinking) - you make it so that she's positioned against the wall while you put one hand on the wall behind her. You look straight into her eyes, and whisper "Let's do something crazy. I want to be in you." Field tested, works ev… | /r/seduction | 02/12/12 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Ideas for the first few dates??Zoos are good, there's lots of awwwing, and always something to talk about to avoid awkward silences. Depending on her interests, art galleries or music shopping/ library hopping can be fun. Something with games. Parks. | /r/seduction | 25/11/12 12:39 PM |
| 0 | How would an alpha confront the guy your girl cheated on you with? Advice from Seddit?idiot. | /r/seduction | 22/11/12 05:39 PM |
| 2 | How would an alpha confront the guy your girl cheated on you with? Advice from Seddit?I get you, I do, but... The guy's not at fault. Your ex is. While it sucks utter and complete balls, the only thing to do is... Let it go. That might take time, but until you do, you won't be right in the head. There is really no way such a confrontation won't turn out bad. If what you want to do is confront the guy, then... Write him a letter and tear it up, or vent here (there are plenty of guys willing to listen.) That might not be 'alpha' enough for you, but it's damn sure the healthiest way… | /r/seduction | 22/11/12 05:38 PM |
| -18 | came across this twisted logic on facebookSauce? | /r/MensRights | 16/11/12 03:40 PM |
| 4 | A lot of guys in pick up need therapy, and not pick up.I'm not saying that they can't, I'm saying we don't want them to be. | /r/seduction | 11/11/12 07:49 PM |
| 10 | 5 Ways to Instantly Appear More ConfidentOf course you should try and appear more confident. The alternative now available to you is to knowingly cater an appearance of self-doubt and insecurity - you know what to do, go ahead and do it. There is nothing 'fake' about good posture. | /r/seduction | 11/11/12 05:56 PM |
| 10 | A lot of guys in pick up need therapy, and not pick up.There is no cure for sociopathy; you can only make them better deceivers. | /r/seduction | 11/11/12 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Problem with translating my thoughts into speechNot sure this is a question of introversion/extroversion. Speaking and writing are two very different activities, so it might just be the way your brain works. Which means that you just need to practice. But in spite of the similarities, speaking and writing are actually very different activities/performances, and neither is more 'real' than the other, which is what you seem to be suggesting; that when you write, you are somehow being a phony, while your speech shows your 'true' introvert self. … | /r/seduction | 30/10/12 01:44 AM |
| 4 | My phone is enabling my AAIf all else fails, leave home without it! ... Actually, scratch that. If your phone is distracting you, you will ALWAYS find a distraction, an excuse, some bullshit reason not to go talk to her. Realize that, then start talking, homeboy! | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 05:31 PM |
| 4 | costumes that help you with seduction/get laidThe man-kini. | /r/seduction | 23/10/12 04:47 PM |
| 2 | So today Ive decided that I'm going to stop being a pussy and just start talking to girls, here is the plan. Any tips?Have fun, keep it light :) | /r/seduction | 22/10/12 12:36 PM |
| 3 | How does one establish a social network or a list of friends that help you meet more people?Take the initiative, arrange outings for people, have fun, meet chicks - in that order. | /r/seduction | 20/10/12 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Lifestyle Guide (crosspost from /r/YouShouldKnow)Heh, you beat me to the punch :( | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 08:20 PM |
| -2 | I overcame the "I have a boyfriend" barrier. I have officially stepped up my game.Yeah, that phone call is going to be great: "Hey, honey... I'm breaking up with you." "What?! Why?" " Listen, I'm at this party, and there's this girl that I reeeeaaallly want to make out with... But at least I'm not a cheater. I mean, I just broke up with you. So there's that." OBVIOUSLY this is much better than going ahead and kissing the girl, realize that you are in a loveless relationship and then break up with your girlfriend later. [/sarcasm] | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 03:43 PM |
| 0 | I overcame the "I have a boyfriend" barrier. I have officially stepped up my game.No, they weren't, even though it hurt. Turns out things are complicated. Ultimately it's a question of trust between the two parties, and nobody else, not even the third party. | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 01:54 PM |
| 28 | List of Body Language actions and meanings to practice!As a psychology student, I cannot stress how much these things oversimplify body language - not just this particular link, but most such 'guides to body language'. You really do need to take a more holistic approach to these things when you read them. Be particularly wary of overly-specific ones. | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 01:30 PM |
| 3 | good opener from last night (field tested)You twisting the hand is just devious. Well played. | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 10:58 AM |
| -4 | I overcame the "I have a boyfriend" barrier. I have officially stepped up my game.Have you ever actually cheated? I have been on all three sides of the equation, and I think each time has been unique in terms of ethics. It's pretty easy to dismiss cheaters, but I don't think cheaters can be simply be dismissed as scumbags - there are many, many reasons for cheating. | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 09:50 AM |
| -9 | I overcame the "I have a boyfriend" barrier. I have officially stepped up my game.Then have a little empathy for the women. | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Sometimes people think I'm gay and it hurts my game more than I'd like to admitI have used "No, I just know how to dress" on occasion. Delivery confident, not defensive, with a smile. Comments, seddit? | /r/seduction | 15/10/12 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Is there any special rules for picking up feminists?Except you are talking to a feminist right now that doesn't. In other words, feminism is not at odds with fighting for men's rights in cases like custody. In other words, your assertion is demonstrably false in this very thread. In some ways, feminism is just as much a framework to think about gender roles as it is a movement. I think it is sad that so many men's right activists are vehemently anti-feminist and/ or downright misogynist - they would fare much better intellectually, emotionally an… | /r/seduction | 12/10/12 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever been asked if you were a womaniser and how did you reply?Oh that is gold! | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Is there any special rules for picking up feminists?Well, it's hardly fair to suggest that women who are working on women's issues (like slut shaming, rape, battery or equal wages) should instead focus on men's issues - nor is it fair to suggest that they do not care about them. One battle at a time. And things like calling women sluts (and accepting that women deserve to be shamed for being sluts) is what leads many rapes to not be reported - women know that if they were dressed provocatively or were drunk, there is a very real chance that they … | /r/seduction | 11/10/12 01:51 PM |
| 12 | Pretty sure I've become somewhat of a misogynist (Why ignorance was bliss for me).So either women are perfect angels that shit roses OR they are stupid bitches to be manipulated? It seems to me that you're the one with issues, not them. People in general, not just women, prefer charming doucheebags over nice but boring (or slightly annoying) people. | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Is there any special rules for picking up feminists?http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/faq-female-privilege/ I think the article makes a compelling case that female privilege is better described as 'benevolent sexism'. There is a phrase, 'patriarchy hurts men too', which I think is true - men should have an easier time gaining custody, for example, and being a feminine man shouldn't be a problem to men. I think the most compelling argument against most cases of 'female privilege' is that such privileges are better seen as rewards … | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Is there any special rules for picking up feminists?I think that's a bit weak a definition, because it undermines a lot of the things that feminism also says with regards to gender roles, cultural norms, male privilege, etc. In a lot of ways feminism is similar to anti-racism - it's about culture just as much as it is about legislation. For instance, it's not okay to denigrate black people with racial slurs, just as it is not okay to denigrate women with gendered slurs like bitch or cunt or what have you. Feminism gets a bad rap, and even people … | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 12:43 AM |
| 1 | [Outer Game] Improving your fashion senseI am glad you enjoyed it :) It's true, BTW - looking back, some of my favourite outfits of the past looked pretty... Terrible. But I didn't know, and hence I didn't care - and that resulted in many kisses for me ;) | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 12:19 AM |
| 2 | Is there any special rules for picking up feminists?Yeah, same game. In all probability you have an odd/wrong idea of what feminism is, if you are like most people - if you want to research these things, feminism 101 (I think .com) is a good place to start. Full disclosure: I am a feminist man. | /r/seduction | 10/10/12 12:10 AM |
| 2 | [Outer Game] Improving your fashion senseI'm not much of a player (I do well enough, but not anything like a lifestyle thing for me), but I do have this to say: There is definitely such a thing as dressing 'too well'. I often wear suits or at least shirt, tie and waistcoat with jeans, and I know some people have often seen me as a snob. So if you are a novice, shy, etc don't go for suits or similar clothes - your shyness will be interpreted as snobbery or aloofness in at least some cases. Similarly, you can be seen as a bit intimidatin… | /r/seduction | 09/10/12 11:46 PM |
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