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| 6 | Corporations Rob Men, The State Kills Men | social issues | Lovecraftian_Daddy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/20 09:13 PM |
| 1 | You Can’t Debate Your Way Into A Relationship | Purge Week | Lovecraftian_Daddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 04:11 PM |
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| 22 | Regarding the "You guys criticize red pill but don't offer an alternative" criticismThe answer should be obvious. The counter to red pill is what is derisively referred to as blue pill: feminism, learning to empathize with women and see the world from a woman's perspective instead of discounting it and replacing it with sexist TRP buzzwords. When you understand the real benefits a woman looks for when dating a man, you can learn to provide some of those benefits. But no one wants to hear that, no one wants to quit cold turkey, so "common sense" is the methadone prescribed to re… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/21 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Is the "normalisation" of sex a contributing factor to the continual rise of incel culture?we're sold a fake reality where "everyone" is having sex. IT'S ADVERTSING. ADVERTISING CREATED INCELS. Companies get you to consume more than you need by shoving an unattainable ideal in your face (beauty, success, sex, etc.), and then introducing their product (car, music, hamburger, etc.), so that you associate buying the product with getting closer to that ideal. And when the product inevitably leaves you with disappointment and a bad taste in your mouth, you go hunting for another one and so… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/21 07:03 PM |
| 6 | The sexual dichotomy of most women is what is making it impossible for me to leave the redpillI guess I was idealizing this girl like crazy and when I learned what she did it was a shock That's normal. Some people are vampires for attention and will suck up your time just to keep you as an "option" with no regard for your feelings--this happens with all genders. If you need someone who doesn't sleep around and is interested in pursuing a deep romantic connection you have to say that. It's not enough to make assumptions about a woman and then blame her if she fails to measure up to your i… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/08/21 01:31 PM |
| 17 | Curious what this sub thinks about "cold approaching"If you want to understand women, read true crime. There are a million horror stories that start with a woman giving a guy a chance on a cold approach. The risk vs. reward is ridiculously lopsided for women, while the risks are far lower and the rewards much higher for men. If you want to approach a woman, join a community based around a hobby you like (or can tolerate) and hang around there for a few months and form some light friendships so there's at least some kind of a vetting process and so… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/05/21 03:28 PM |
| 0 | Re: Do you guys hate feminism?"Majority" works differently on the internet, though. If your exposure to feminism is cringe compilations on youtube or cancel campaigns on twitter, the majority of your experience will be negative. If there's only one feminist you agree with, but you follow all their content, the majority of your experience will be positive. This is true of any subject, and the reason people have a hard time agreeing on the internet: we can only experience an information bubble of our own choosing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/21 03:20 PM |
| 1 | If you’re a woman who is threatened by TRP, you’re exactly why it exists in the first place.It would be sadder for him once he learned that he would never even be in a relationship with you if he didn't keep "acting" and was actually himself. Caveat: "Just be yourself!" only works for good people. Most people are assholes. Putting up an act is the only way to have a social life or get a partner in that case, but it's worth putting the effort into therapy, etc. to learn to empathize more and be less of an asshole. A lot of TRP is doubling down on being an asshole and confusing it with "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/21 06:05 PM |
| 5 | Do you think BDSM pretty much universllay being "woman focused" says something about sexuality?Switches are kinda like the middle management of bdsm if you think about it. I see what you’re going for with that analogy, but switches are also translators that help doms and subs understand the other side. A lot of people become switches because they get curious and want to know what it takes to give the experience they want to get, or to receive the experience they want to give. I’ve also heard switches make the best doms for this reason: better empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Are all women disgusted whenever a man opens up or is vulnerable? Like subconsciously?Dude, that’s a false dichotomy. MOST women can accept a man expressing emotion, it’s a very low bar to pass. The problem is that men are too insecure about their emotions to realize they are insecure about their emotions, so they project their own negative judgements onto women. This process is called the shadow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/21 09:31 PM |
| 7 | "Dick is abundant and of low value"Exactly, the dynamics of casual sex in 2021 are punishing to men, so why bother? People who only want sex are low value regardless of gender, because they tolerate too much bullshit to not get dragged through the mud. Honestly, everyone should be working towards higher standards, for themselves as well as others. I find people who are open to change and eager to improve are more worth my time regardless of their current level of status. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/21 09:25 PM |
| 17 | From a Reddit trans community: "The hatred of men and people who are attracted to them in tucute spaces is getting annoying - and concerning"J.K. Rowling LITERALLY used her abuse by a man as an excuse for being a TERF. They really just want to abuse anyone with a penis and feel like they can get away it if the penis-owner is wearing a dress. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/21 05:10 PM |
| 3 | The problem with nice guys is that no one wants to think of themselves as "not nice".I think part of the OP's point was that nice people prove that they're nice by being nice, whereas assholes attack anyone who calls them out for being assholes, to maintain the lie (to themselves as much as anyone else) that they are "nice." I find it liberating to not identify as "nice" since that reputation will always hinge on how nice you are to assholes who will gladly take advantage of your "niceness" and abuse you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 04:53 PM |
| 14 | How has limerence affected you?Limerance is being obsessed with unrequited love (either because the object of your affections doesn't know or just isn't that into you), often to the extent that you can't think of connecting with other people and finding a real relationship. It's sincerely the deepest form of hell I've experienced: Needing one single thing to validate your existence and knowing you'll never be able to have it. I've experienced it twice, it left me emotionally crippled through most of college, but fortunately I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 04:36 PM |
| 12 | I came across a post talking about "toxic masculinity" In a group about animal memes. I took some screenshots of the top comments.You can't defend masculinity, as a man, to a group of people hell bent on demonizing your for being a man. I can. I usually concede not all forms of masculinity are pro-social. Being really excellent at killing people is usually masculine, sometimes necessary, never pro-social. But the work of civilization over the past six-thousand years has been men learning to work out their differences through diplomacy and democracy, instead of warfare, so you can't tell me all masculinity is toxic. If some… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/21 02:27 PM |
| 4 | Why I am not a Feminist.But this isn't the full picture. As men were also treated with grotesque unfairness too And in every instance, they were younger, less wealthy, and not as well-connected as the men oppressing them. Speaking up for young men, poor men, and men of color is male advocacy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/21 06:24 AM |
| 13 | Women rapidly lose interest in sex once in a stable relationship or living with a male sexual partnerWhere are you finding all these unemployed women though? Mythical creatures who live only in the enchanted forests of the manosphere--along with men who can raise a family on a single income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 01:03 PM |
| 11 | Women rapidly lose interest in sex once in a stable relationship or living with a male sexual partnerHonestly I'm not sure. I don't know how the market would work that out because people are incentivized to cohabitate and build families. No, that's just the culturally prescribed response to the incentive. People can cohabitate, and be married, without being married to the people they cohabitate with. Having fraternity and sorority style houses and raising children of the appropriate gender in each would also respond to current incentives. Economics is often invoked to support tradition, because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/21 12:25 PM |
| 11 | Is anything remotely true about RP or is it all about shock value?Things I’ve learned from TRP: 1) Shit-testing is real and useful. Sometimes you need someone who already fits the bill and you’re not prepared to support a fixer-upper. Extends to way more than romantic relationships. 2) Genetic Science is real, it’s just not everything. TRP tends to frame all sexuality as a competition of selfish genes: everyone wants the ‘fittest’ partner and women want the most resources for raising children. There’s even some evidence for AFBB in the types of men women find … | /r/ExRedPill | 13/01/21 08:20 AM |
| 46 | When people blame single men for their lack of “ going outside “, what counts as going outside ?It somehow still astounds me that men have become so socially inept they have to be told what "going outside" means and still manage to blame Feminism for their lack of dating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 06:08 PM |
| 12 | Interview with someone who lived during the sexual revolutionI think in the long run you are going to be correct though because its now self fulfilling. This makes me wonder if inceldom is just nature's way of getting unfit, nihilistic men out of the gene pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/21 03:18 PM |
| 8 | Thoughts on the Old Joke: "If men got pregnant, there'd be an abortion clinic one every corner."Well, men feel horrified about unwanted fatherhood Not enough to use protection. I call bullshit. Men are only terrified of facing the consequences of their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 09:53 PM |
| 14 | If all men struggling with dating were to turn gay, most would have their dating problems vanish, doesn’t that suggest dating is hard cause of women ?they will never admit that marriage solely benefits marriage. I fully endorse this typo. A lot of people kill themselves trying to live up to stereotypes to uphold an institution that does nothing for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/21 09:45 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Most women lack self awareness about their unearned privilege when it comes to sex, dating, relationships and socializing.so they assume women benefit from it in the same way. In fairness, many of them do. Men try to guilt trip attractive women about the pleasure they have access to because their response is literally sour grapes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 11:42 PM |
| -14 | End the violence ̷a̷g̷a̷i̷n̷s̷t̷ ̷w̷o̷m̷e̷n̷.̷ ! domestic abuse has no gender, therefore government policy should be gender neutral. #EqualityForAllThe reason why male victims are ignored is not because of "patriarchy" like some feminists say. all these laws and programs were pushed by feminist organizations. It's not the laws pushed by feminists, it's the absence of any equivalent push from men. Support for the victims of domestic violence is not a zero-sum game, and we can't expect women to advocate for us. As a former victim of domestic violence, we need men to proudly advocate for the rights of male victims. We deserve our own shelters,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/01/21 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Many men here seem to underestimate or downplay the role “charisma” and “presence” plays in female sexual arousal."Game" and "frame" are just types of lying--to women and to yourself respectively. It's possible to be genuinely confident, but most self-hating Redpillers treat this as a myth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Do men in these modern times want to be breadwinners?The economic conditions that made bread-winning possible died in the last century with Unions. Anyone who wants to do it now needs to either be born rich or work insane hours--neither of which is exciting. It's the cause of the current crisis of masculinity, but because an unspoken chain of command prevents men from challenging employers or anyone else above them in the social hierarchy, they blame women. Fortunately, women are no longer subordinate to men and they are increasingly not taking an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 03:59 PM |
| 4 | If you were reborn as an unattractive member of the opposite sex what would your approach to dating and relationships be?Judging by the reaction, it was way more clever than she thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Would you prefer the old fashioned/victorian dating market, where porn doesn't exist and everyone is a virgin until marriage?I think each sex wants the other one to conform to Victorian dating standards--while taking advantage of modern liberties and technology for themselves. Hell is other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/21 03:30 PM |
| 22 | What makes “mommas boys” undesirable? As a father, how should I tell my son to not be a “mommas boy” without at the same time promoting “toxic masculinity”?Exactly, don't even think about this until he's 13, let him be a kid before he has to become a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 07:47 PM |
| 13 | Are simps 100 percent to blame in simping scenarios?How did you make the mental gymnastics jump from simps putting people on a pedestal and giving away money and energy is bad and a mistake to be learned from, to child abuse and relationship abuse is okay? Red Pillers on this sub treat men as having the same degree of autonomy as children and blaming the world for all their misfortunes, so comparing them to child victims is par for the course. Grow up, men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/21 03:07 PM |
| 7 | Why Don’t Women Vote For Feminist Parties?The reason is that modern feminism is intersectional. You can't be feminism without supporting worker's rights, because women are workers. You can't be feminism without supporting the racial minorities, because women come in every color. You can't be feminism without supporting the religious minorities, because women belong to every faith. And if you're going to build a coalition that wide, you might as well work with an existing party, preferably the party that workers and minorities are alread… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/21 02:46 PM |
| 6 | Given how much the average woman cares about male height whether they realize or admit it or not and given how men have 0 control over their height. Women have 0 right to complain about just about any standard any man hasHigh Ns who want low Ns are predators--high N wants the power in the relationship and for their partner to have none (e.g. most sexist men). There's no power differential between a short woman and a tall man--on the contrary, they are both more desirable than average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 10:50 PM |
| -6 | The flaw with these quotas is it classifies rich, middle class women with parents as professors, drs etc as "oppressed" over homeless boys where no one in family has ever gone to universityNote: If you only mention homeless boys and men in response to the grievances of women and minorities, you don't actually care about men's issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/21 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Do you agree with the observation that FDS women buying themselves an engagement ring is the equivalent of an incel buying himself a sex doll?Exactly, the losers will all be OD'd or sui'd in a decade. Nature does not GAF about fairness, if you're not working toward personal growth, you're working toward personal destruction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/21 04:55 PM |
| 10 | A female marriage coach criticizes exuberant female selectivenessIt will be a social disaster and all that male sexual energy and lack of restraint will promote radicalism. Not all radicalism is equal. Building community support networks in a hypercompetitive, atomized society is a radical act. The days of impressing women with your ability to succeed as an individual have been foreclosed, being able to meet and support your neighbors is a much better way to both build and prove your value than the rigged game of online dating. Sometimes a disaster inspires a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/01/21 03:28 PM |
| 2 | An ideal feminist woman. 100% empowered and rejects the patriarchy.It was groundbreaking. I think it's worthwhile to be aware of its problems, but that doesn't diminish it's successes. Good media can define a generation. But for the same reason, every new generation finds a reason to dismiss the media that came before them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/21 11:50 PM |
| 8 | Men shouldn't blame women for the lack of male solidarity in society. Men should rely on men for help instead of expecting women to solve their emotional and psychological problemsThe hypercompetitiveness of American men causes them to resent each other instead of forming bonds. Men in other cultures have stronger religious, class, ethnic, or other social bonds. In this country, if a man is not your friend, he's competing for your resources. When unions were busted in the second half of the 20th century, most fraternal orders died out with them. We need to stop lionizing men at the top of the hierarchy and start valuing ourselves and our social networks before men in Amer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/20 04:41 PM |
| -1 | Someone asked me to repost this here after it was deleted in /r/menslib for being too much about feminism - i hope it's okay here :)they often lie and say they are interested and then start trying to show subtle signs of not being interested, hoping he takes the hint A lot of women are afraid of violence if they reject a man outright. IMO, it's far more dangerous to lead a particularly dense man on, instead of just straight up telling him "I'm not interested in you," but women are raised to avoid confrontation to avoid being labeled a "bitch." Women need to be more forthright and men need to be better at picking up hints. Yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/12/20 04:00 PM |
| 9 | Female Masculinities Scholar discusses Sherlock Holmes' "toxic masculinity". Can't resist making bizarre comparison to Trump, and conflating the character's thoughts on emotions with his view of women.Which is a waste. Men's issues decide global politics, so it's in the interest of all of us to be more sensitive to them. "Thing bad," is not scholarship. I've seen a better version of this argument on youtube: stoicism can be harmful to men. The need to suppress emotion to be seen as "serious" or even "politically correct" or "non-threatening" doesn't support men's emotional growth: it stuffs it in a box until it rots and explodes and we all have to deal with it one way or another. Like Cumberp… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/20 12:55 PM |
| 3 | Is this r/datingoverthirty post an example of AF/BB in reverse/from the man's perspective?Yes. Gift-based prostitution can be entirely consensual. When you manipulate someone into giving you want you want and dump them before giving them what they want, you are the asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/20 12:49 PM |
| -5 | Feminist shaming tactics needlessly cause lasting sexual repression or guilt in a subset of men most sympathetic to feminist concerns.Most men are entitled snowflakes who want women to be sex mommies who do everything for them, including start the relationship, while they continue to be the dregs of humanity and contribute nothing. If they internalize feminist criticism, fabulous! That's how I learned to pay attention to what women want. If men want women to do what they want, they have to do what women want, why is this hard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Are you willing to happily sacrifice your career in order to support your more successful wife?My ex went stir-crazy after a few years of not working. It doesn't seem like having free time would be just as soul draining as working, but it is. I had no problem with it at the time. I'm starting to get paid for my hobby, so if I had more free time, I would just do that. I found it bizarre that she didn't try to acquire a skill or stick with anything more than a couple months before getting bored. The reality is that few people of either sex have a genuine passion and if they aren't forced to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/20 02:02 PM |
| 6 | What are the causes and consequences of the growing number of men who are not participating in society?causes: capitalism consequences: chaos A society stops functioning when even one person has nothing to lose, as every single mass shooting from a dissatisfied, isolated, and neglected man has demonstrated. We need to take care of the people who don't succeed in this hyper-competitive society, or we won't have one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/20 03:50 AM |
| 27 | If women find less men attractive than men find women attractive, shouldn't women make the first move?Women, generally speaking, are very risk-averse and cowardly when it comes to these types of things so they cling to their insecurities and fear (and privilege) and offload the risk of rejection unto men. In fairness, men are also cowardly, but since we don't have the option of passively dating--we have to orient our entire lives around courtship--a lot of us are just turning incel instead. A coward dies a thousand deaths, indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/20 02:14 PM |
| 5 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadThis. Many Feminists are pro-porn and sex-positive, though they don't shy away from critiquing unethical practices in the industry or in mainstream sexuality. Obligatory Saarkesian quote: "It's both possible, and even necessary, to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/20 05:51 PM |
| 5 | When redpillers say they have evolutionary biology on their side? Is there anything that debunks their theory?There's a book all about this: Sex at Dawn is real evopsych and a wonderful antidote to pseudointellectual redpill bullshit. It compares humans to banobos, who are much closer to us than baboons, and explores how human sexuality may have been transformed by the advent of civilization. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/12/20 02:15 PM |
| 41 | Why is the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl bad? How does it differ from natural romantic fantasizing?I don't think the problem is the MPDG, I think the problem is her counterpart character: the selfish, entitled male-author self-insert character for whom the world is responsible for fixing all his problems because he is a nice guytm and perfect the way he is. If the MPDG's counterpart was an equally manic faery king, they'd just be a cute couple. A woman who works hard to make someone's fantasy come true deserves a man who will do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/20 06:51 PM |
| 7 | How much do (or should) you sacrifice your lifestyle choices just to conform with what the opposite sex finds attractive?It shouldn't be a choice between pursuing what you like and what the opposite sex finds attractive, it should be a Venn Diagram where you pursue the overlap, the things you like that the other sex also likes. However, if your only interests are anime, videogames, and masturbation or [insert female equivalent], you'll need to grow your circle for a while before there's any overlap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 04:13 PM |
| 3 | OnlyFans and nudes sent are eventually going to come around and bite women in the ass.I’d even say it’s the majority. "Most people agree with me!!" - Every Redditor Ever This is called manufacturing a public, it's a way to give your ideas more weight by saying your opinion is popular while offering zero evidence that it is. The conservative "moral majority" (which was neither moral nor a majority) pulled off this exact trick for years. And on the OT: Sex Workers limit their options with insecure men, which might be a boon, all things considered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/20 12:50 AM |
| 9 | The ways in which men "hurt" women and women "hurt" men: are they the same?Reminds me of the Margaret Atwood quote: 'Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.' Psychological damage vs. physical damage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 12:46 PM |
| 6 | The reason why most men struggle with dating is because OLD doesn’t work and cold approaching doesn’t workThis type is always looking for a bailout. That's because the people who exploit them are constantly receiving bailouts. A man who's determined to succeed despite the obstacles can still be attractive. But a lot of men with financial hardship make the mistake of blaming themselves. They expect pity from society instead of demanding respect. That's what makes them undateable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/20 12:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Yes, men feel insecure when it comes to women who are more successful than thembut relationships can feel uneasy if they feel one-side Power differentials are hard and extend to way more than just money; looks, experience, and sociability differences can all cause this. These imbalances simply require a higher degree of trust, and a higher quality of communication, because the problems they create are always highly obvious to the person with less power and nearly invisible to the person with more power. However, if everyone's game to work on it, you get the best of both wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/20 07:52 PM |
| 32 | How do you explain men redpill would consider 10/10s still getting horrible results with women?Women Redpillers explain any gaps in their theory by blaming women. The real reason is that men with low emotional intelligence are not only less valuable to women, but more easily manipulated. That value can be made up for by looks, success, wealth, etc. but those things won't protect men from predatory partners and the promise of a divorce settlement or at least a lawsuit is going to draw vultures. This is a problem for successful people of any gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/20 07:39 PM |
| 10 | Red Pill coachesWomen already have given on these men, the only thing left to do is a wait a generation and let nature take its course. | /r/ExRedPill | 24/11/20 03:04 PM |
| 75 | CMV: Men aren’t “intimidated” by successful women. They just don’t want a woman who will disrespect him.Men are terrified that women might treat them the way they've traditionally treated women. I've been on both sides of the income issue, if you can't trust your partner to make more than you, then you don't trust your partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/20 12:14 AM |
| 3 | Curious about the value of sex - how can the spectrum be shameful and boastful at the same timeBut it's your responsibility to communicate what YOU'RE seeking in my opinion. This. So many people just assume that the opinions they were raised with apply to the general population, and that’s almost never the case these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/20 09:28 PM |
| 3 | What’s the red pill equivalent for women?I think the problem is that self-improvement is hard and people spend all their energy searching for excuses to coast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/20 07:18 PM |
| 12 | CMV: The increasing gap in the dating world is more a narrative of increasing autism/aspergers syndrome than looksismAn inability to notice or communicate emotions at an adult level isn't autism, it's not genetic, it's a lack of emotional intelligence. Unfortunately, we don't teach it in schools and we live in a sociopathic culture that treats emotions and intellect as opposites. There are plenty of resources for men willing to learn, but most are too insecure to admit their immaturity to grow the fuck up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/20 07:13 PM |
| 21 | Stopped using 4chan a month ago but still very racist and sexist, how do I stop this and become a decent person?Try to expose yourself to a wide range of viewpoints I forced myself to watched every single Anita Sarkeesian video like Malcolm McDowell in Clockwork Orange. Worked for me. My current gf is amazing and really enjoys being treated like a human being. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/11/20 02:03 PM |
| 0 | Marriageable men do care about N-countHonestly it's a bit of a turn-off and tells me they're probably not the type of person I'd see myself with in the long run. That literally means you are making assumptions about a person based on their number of partners. Are those assumptions true? Would you even bother asking to check? I've never asked for N-count, because all the things that might indicate (are they committed? are they safe? are they into emotional investment or just thrill seeking?) I can find out by asking better questions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/20 03:32 PM |
| 7 | After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept thisbut clearly I should have obsessed over it glutton for punishment right here | /r/ExRedPill | 15/11/20 09:47 PM |
| 10 | How do you expect women to prioritize relationships when guys in their age range aren’t thinking about stability?Every time I have to pick between doing something that benefits the relationship or my career I pick the relationship. Easy. This can also be more of a sliding scale. In the OP's example, her bf is on an extreme end about not giving a fuck about his career, which could be fine for less materialistic women who share the same priorities. It's possible to balance the need for stability and the need for a relationship more evenly than that. Broadly speaking, we want partners that bring order to our … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/20 02:46 PM |
| 43 | Male Sexlessness Is Rising, But Not For The Reasons Incels Claim (Article)On the Chadpocalypse: Do a few Chads and Stacies really monopolize the market for sex? Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true? It turns out, the answer is no. And of course, it isn’t! Imagine how much sex those 20% of men would have to be having! A substantial share would need to be doing two-a-days on a regular basis to maintain that kind of share. In reality, according to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have … | /r/ExRedPill | 09/11/20 08:07 PM |
| 4 | Is the dating market really that dismal?The casual attitude was just so shocking to me it was like hearing about a sociopath talking about his last victim in such a detached uncaring way because they don't even think of them as human. This is THE TRUE RED PILL, manipulating the opposite sex to get all of what you want and none of what you don't. WTF do you think game is? When men try to extract value from women in the form of sex, emotional support, or basic life skills, women turn around and do the same thing. These women are red pil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/20 12:25 PM |
| 2 | Are people on here being serious?1) Men who don't understand women make appeals to "female nature," the same way people make vague appeals to "human nature" to explain away any aspect of psychology they don't want to understand. 2) Edgy humor is a tactic to get you to ignore the meaning of what is being said. The claim of "just messing around" or "trolling" or "doing it for the lulz" is a way to excuse deeply bigoted opinions that would be indefensible otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/20 12:10 PM |
| 11 | BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol.He should be paying her tuition for this quality of education. *chef's kiss* | /r/ExRedPill | 03/11/20 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Incel, Feminism and FDS megathreadOnly inferior men make this claim. Superior men can prove it and then other people to make the claim for them. If you were superior to women, you'd know it, because they'd treat you that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/20 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Do you believe in the concept of “alpha males?”I'd say respect more than confidence. There are plenty of fools with confidence that come off as complete jackasses. When a man's confidence is treated with respect, he gains authority, which is the definitive "alpha trait." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 03:22 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: Why do some men wish for lots of casual sex but shame women who have lots of it?Slut shaming wouldn’t work if promiscuous women didn’t secretly think their behaviour was shameful. Complete bullshit. There's nothing shameful about a man being short, but you can shame any man under 6ft for not being a 'real man.' Shame is just disapproval from society, it hurts whether its rational or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 02:36 PM |
| -4 | Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older?the normalization of polyamory What's not normal about it? Everyone is attracted to more than one person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/20 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Is there any "systematic" way to get the average guy to stop being such an unfuckable loser?the average guy who apparently is a porn sick loser with video games as his only hobby. /r/selfawarewolves You know this. This is what women are complaining about. If the description does not fit you, you have no reason to be offended by it. You cannot complain your way to a gf, you can only argue yourself into celibacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/20 04:35 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] The reason this sub constantly repeats the same talking point is because of an aversion to studying systemic problemsIn real life, lifting yourself by bootstraps is physically impossible, you need to reach for something outside of yourself if you want to get somewhere. It’s fair to say systemic issues are sometimes used as an excuse to give up, but that’s because people think you have to change the whole system to have a chance. Systemic issues are a wall you can move around, and advice that helps you do that is more useful than advice that has you ignoring and beating your head against said wall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/20 06:58 PM |
| 10 | Q4Women: Why shouldn't men view women's offer of "friendship" like a second-place trophy/consolation prize following a rejection?The easiest way to not be friend zoned is to not start. Say “I’m interested in a relationship, not a friendship.” Women respect it and you don’t drive yourself crazy with false hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/20 06:18 AM |
| 0 | The majority of people in this community have an extremely warped view of sex.If your society focuses too much on it, then it will be almost impossible for the sexually disenfranchised group to ever have a non-warped view of sex. Unfortunately, advertising provides a financial incentive to exaggerate sexual frustration and then sell people fast food and cars, which do nothing to alleviate the frustration, perpetuating a cycle of excessive consumption and spiraling depression. This is why we need regulation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 03:42 PM |
| 16 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.If you're still alive, it didn't work. TBH, blackpill is no way to live, it's just a highly addictive form of suffering. What's better is being open to inspiration and meaning in life wherever it comes from. Maybe that won't be a relationship, at least not right now. The most attractive people always have a lot going on in their lives and don't need a partner to justify their existence. Whether you want a relationship or not, that's the best place to start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 02:12 PM |
| 9 | Study: Men suffer most from being single over a long period of time, while women were more negatively affected by being in an unstable relationship but were not affected by being single for longer periods.Maybe this is something guys ought to learn from women. This. Most male friend groups I know are too obsessed about their internal pecking order to offer any support. Also, women's friend groups seem to be more optimistic, whereas men compete to be the most nihilistic and mock optimism--which is why black pill usually overtakes red pill without aggressive moderation. Imagine men actually promoting optimism and mocking nihilism. As unthinkable as that seems, it's what we need right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 01:46 PM |
| 4 | Study: Men suffer most from being single over a long period of time, while women were more negatively affected by being in an unstable relationship but were not affected by being single for longer periods.Who the hell wants to date a man who hates himself? Or, for that matter, uses biology to pity himself instead of working to become better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Why would a woman lie about their n-count to her partner if "insecure", "misogynistic" men are the only ones who, in her view, would care about a high n count in the first place?They don't believe it Source? I swear this sub is men telling other men what women think while trying as hard as possible to exclude women from the debate. To answer the OP: nobody who isn't insecure and misogynist asks a woman's n-count, so the only answer available is a lie. Source: I never once asked my ex her N in ten years of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 01:22 PM |
| 4 | Does female promiscuity follow the pareto principle like male promiscuity?Uh, yes. Time is limited and the places you go to meet hookups are not where you meet your gf. A lot of PUAs are surprisingly honest about their inability to handle LTRs, it's simply a different skill set and many men have to choose what to pursue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 01:16 PM |
| 13 | Realistically what's the lowest you'll go in terms of a woman's looks?It seems too dehumanizing to even consider. I think that's the point. Women don't assign a numbers to men because they understand how much it sucks to be a reduced to an object defined by market value. Men who have been treated as a number in the workplace might have some empathy in this regard. I've seen women who are conventionally very attractive who have smiles made of knives and nothing could make me attracted to them. I've dated women who I'm madly attracted to who are less conventionally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 12:33 PM |
| 4 | Why are 30% of Gen Z women not attracted to men?Same goes for Queer, Trans, and anyone under the "plus" label. What's "deeply decadent" is a generation of white men who think society has to conform to them. A lot of female people who would have been straight in older generations are now queer and bisexual and they vastly prefer tolerance and empathy. The only people who actually prize ignorance and coercion are traditional men and, since they are increasingly shunned by women, their approval is meaningless to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 12:16 PM |
| -1 | The physical attractiveness of a male sexual "harasser" substantially determines if the experience is enjoyable or traumatic, according to womenyou don't know if a sexual advance is wanted until she reacts. No. You don't know if a sexual advance is wanted until she reacts. Empathy and reading body language are not impossible, like 90% of what incels on this sub complain about. I swear, most guys online have traded in sex and romance for porn and the pursuit of pity points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/20 12:01 PM |
| 45 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.PPD has become men telling other men what women want and ignoring any women brave enough to interrupt the circle jerk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/20 02:50 PM |
| 10 | Do Men actually want women to take the lead when it comes to dating?So the dating strategy question is: do you want to be so attractive that people put up with your bullshit? Or do you want to not be full of shit? To me, it makes sense to raise the drawbridges towards anyone your suspicious of, but if you're suspicious of everyone, then you need therapy, not dating advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 02:41 PM |
| 3 | Are men unable to tell that women are way nicer than how much they are actually interested?This is depressing, but true. So many men believe attractiveness is an inherent quality they cannot change--when the only thing inherently unattractive is the refusal to work at becoming better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 02:31 PM |
| -1 | Monogamy will cease to exist in the future.“he's been reading too much RP.” As a real life poly person and not an RPer’s thought experiment, this shit is comedy gold. Applying an RP idea of what a woman is to polyamory turns her into the apocalyptic whore of Babylon who will bring Western Civilization to ruin by unstoppable power of her poon. For real though, most PPD posters don’t have enough emotional intelligence for a one relationship, let alone metamours, let alone multiple relationships. There is no danger of it becoming more popul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/20 02:36 AM |
| 13 | Blue pill men, would it bother you to find out a woman you are seeing a has much larger amount of sexual partners and experiences than you?Seconded. Fretting about your partner’s sexual history is so childish. If you feel inadequate as a sexual partner, no amount of inexperience on her end is going to reassure you. If you have sexual confidence, it doesn’t matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/20 03:46 PM |
| 20 | What elements of your sexual past could be a problem for future boyfriends?because the PPD men would throw it in your face and fixate on it endlessly If a guy is asking about your sexual past, it's to feed his own self-hatred and obsessive insecurity or to have leverage to use against you. Men who have confidence won't ask and can listen without judgement if you need to talk about it. You will not find them here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/20 07:04 PM |
| 9 | We don't need to solve the relations between the genders.Everything else social, including relationships and dating, is completely voluntary Man, have you seen the rates of depression and suicide recently? Among young people in particular? Most people absolutely need better gender relations in order to have a life worth living and survive the stress, anxiety, and disrespect that comes with debasing yourself for a "fair wage." That doesn't mean human connection is obligatory, it means we need to be working harder to have it and not expect it to come to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/20 02:00 PM |
| 6 | Has fucking on the first date become the norm for online dating?If over 50% of available men are competing for less than a third of available women, that explains a lot about the frustration men experience on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/20 10:59 PM |
| 42 | When dating women, it’s all about how a man makes her feel in his presence- looks matter, but they aren’t a woman’s top priority!It’s just one variable. Powerless men focus on the factors they can’t control. Powerful men focus on the factors they can control. Most women can tell the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 10:06 PM |
| 5 | everything in my life coincides with the red pill I CANNOT GET OUT OF THIS MENTALITYSurrounding yourself with a bunch of like minded people doesn't make you critical thinking, it does the opposite. In fairness, the same accusation can be leveled against this or any subreddit or subculture. The key, I've found, is learning the difference between truth and scope. I think the redpill absolutely explains a lot of the power dynamics in society, and not just in terms of dating, money, and Chadliness. However, the redpill is very narrow in scope. If you're only focused on power, and y… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/20 12:49 PM |
| 18 | Honest question, how can I avoid building resentment against women after bad dating experiences?Value yourself and don't care what others think. This is one of the easiest things to say and the hardest to actually do, but it is absolutely is the solution. You need to whip your inner critic into shape so that he's an advisor helping you improve, rather than a tyrant running your life. As soon as I finally did this and could honestly say "her loss" when I was undervalued, dating become easy for the first time ever. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/09/20 12:37 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is toxic masculinity?The debate is entirely on "how do we mold men into what we find desirable?" Never the other way around. I think pointing a finger at the other gender instead of getting off your ass and improving yourself is fucking lazy--but you make a good point that women do it too and mostly get a pass. A man is not responsible for a woman's mental health, he cannot supply all the missing love in her life, or make up for trauma inflicted by other men. This is all personal development stuff that your partner … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 12:31 PM |
| 8 | Do you believe porn negatively affected modern dating?So, yeah. It’s been great for guys The bitterness of men on this sub tells a different story. I don't think porn is exceptional--advertising, movies, and dating apps have also increased expectations at the same time that our mental, physical, and economic health is declining, leading to a total disconnect between our dating standards and what we can achieve--for both sexes. I think gender relations are screwed until we stop treating each other as disposable sources of content--but that's a lot t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 12:22 PM |
| 6 | Do y’all like women?American men try to put on a show for them so that they are entertaining but there's no real connection That's a great point. Despite women in the U.S. being financially independent, too many men still treat them like objects to be obtained, leading to the disconnect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 12:11 PM |
| 5 | Do y’all like women?(i never go up to a guy) Maybe you should. You seem upset with 'traditional' kind of man who strictly wants to chase a woman, so maybe try finding a man who isn't intimidated by a woman expressing interest? At the very least, consider it field research: you'll get to learn more about the kind of man you actually find attractive and that may help you attract more of that man in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 11:20 AM |
| 10 | Do y’all like women?Otherwise how would you know that what you're improving is actually working? Your self-relationship is actually an excellent barometer. I've never met a man who treats himself like shit and can actually treat his partner well. As for how to improve, that's personal, but getting up in the morning and exercising is more effective than any antidepressant and is a perfect place to start. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 11:13 AM |
| 11 | Do y’all like women?I’m more oppressed, no me! Since marginalization has become a source of power in Western society, white men have been obsessed with making themselves not only the most powerful group--but also the most marginalized! Unfortunately, everyone else can see this is obviously bullshit, and no one calls men out on their bullshit as much as women, therefore men hate women. As long as you think power is exclusive, you will hate anyone who challenges yours. I love women and I love being in a relationship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/20 11:05 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Blue Pill Feminism (Gynocentrism) lead to TRP/MGTOW movementFair enough. All feminist ideologies have common ground they agree and push for Yes: the idea that women should have the same opportunities as men. and there is also definitely a prevalent ideology that is more popular than others. Yes: intersectionality--the idea that women are also minorities, laborers, and live in colonized nations, which means oppression against these groups is also oppression against women. The trouble is--those ideas are so obvious, I don't see how you can reject them with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 01:32 PM |
| 8 | Does effortless dating work?I still think truly efortless dating doesn't exists. It does, but most men aren't attractive or confident enough to experience it. Except, ironically, when they're already in a good relationship and so happy and carefree that they can relate to women without caring how attractive they are. I've heard several men complain about how many easy dating seemed to be after they became happily married. The secret to Wu Wei is developing that confidence while you're still single. You can achieve it throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Does effortless dating work?Early term abortion for me. Men shouldn't be able to infect women with their wretched seed like the xenomorph in Alien. Not having your body hijacked is a basic human right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/20 01:19 PM |
| 9 | The amount of risk and investment a woman puts into the dating process is the same she will into a relationship.That’s an “if all things are equal” take. If they're not equal, make them more equal. Improve yourself. If you're not even trying to be a good partner, you will be cursed with settling for a low value woman who is doing the same damn thing. Hell is a mirror. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/20 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Why does everyone think men are "naturally" thirstier than women?Compare to the lone girl in the CS department. Attention by the truckload, a harem garbage pile if she would so choose. FTFY. I knew the girl in the CS department, she dated one guy with the emotional intelligence of gnat, he turned all their mutual friends against her, she spent the rest of her time in class existing as little as possible. The assumption that dating is a paradise for women exists to justify a bitter and entitled mindset. The only way out of this loser mentality is listening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/20 03:18 PM |
| 4 | Radical thought experiment: What would a truly deregulated sexual marketplace look like in the modern world?Assault would still be illegal, even the sexual aspect is ignored. It's illegal to hold someone down and do what you want to them, sexual assault is just an added charge on top of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/20 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Radical thought experiment: What would a truly deregulated sexual marketplace look like in the modern world?For a concrete example: Selling is legal Sex is legal. Selling sex is illegal. If prostitution was decriminalized people would be truly free to "make the choices they want within the legal confines of all the other laws that govern society." The laws against prostitution are inconsistent with the rest of the laws and based on the idea that the state needs to control women's bodies for their own goodtm. As for what would change: Advertising would be massively less effective if you could pay for s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/20 03:46 PM |
| 76 | Why don't the simps and pickmeishas just date each other?Pickmes don't feel comfortable in relationships where men are decent to them. This is sometimes true, but not normally true. A bigger issue is no radar: if you're willing to simp or pickme for anyone attractive, you'll waste your time with trash partners you should have dumped aeons ago instead of sailing past all the red flags. But the real answer is: generous people who live happily ever after don't normally visit complaint-happy subreddits like PPD. Source: In a relationship with another over… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/20 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Men are inherently born with no value, and need to demonstrate value to women and society.A man that is unwilling to do this is shamed for being a coward and is not regarded as a real man. This is the dysfunction of American society: everyone is exploited. Whereas children are exploited for their potential (as wage slaves, soldiers, etc.), and women are exploited for their ability to make children--men have nothing to exploit but their lives, and so we are literally exploited to death. All life has value. Thinking you need a death wish to be a Real Mantm is simping for tyranny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/20 09:47 PM |
| 15 | Being a "good guy" will not get you laid. As a man you need to have an edge because"morality" means nothingSelf-improvement is everything. Morality is self-improvement. People who think they can get away with having "good" as a label for themselves that only they can see. Real morality takes constant work on self-discovery and compassion--and people who take it seriously can recognize it in others quite easily. Ultimately though, morality is like any interest: it's only attractive to people who share that interest. However, it is much more commonly valued than the social-hierarchy-obsessed lizard peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/20 05:10 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: For attractive women, is dating in any way mysterious to you?There is nothing he could do to prevent that short of committing illegal acts. You are so naive. Women are most likely to be killed by their partner or ex: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-51572665 It's very easy for abusive men to make credible death threats and deny ever having said them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/20 05:01 PM |
| 10 | "Depressive symptoms were associated with engaging in casual sex differently for males and females. Males who engaging in casual sex reported the fewest symptoms of depression and females who had a history of casual sex reported the most depressive symptoms."I'd like to see studies that control for previous sexual abuse. Most young men aren't getting laid to cope with having their bodies treated like trash by an abuser--and struggling to reclaim their bodily autonomy as a result. Correlation is not yada yada But most men will just yell "sluts!" and not think a second thing of it, because most men have the emotional intelligence of a cement brick. Understanding women is as easy as imagining what it's like to be a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/20 03:16 PM |
| 28 | CMV: Women don't really want "good men"I'm here to tell you that this line of thinking is exactly what it is: a fantasy It’s amazing how many weak men try to excuse their failure by arguing that successful men don’t exist. It’s possible to develop high emotional competence and relate to women like human beings. If you’re not interested in doing the work, you will suffer the consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 07:12 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many dudes see sex as the best thing in the relationship, and other aspects as secondary or boring?Age has no bearing on maturity I've dated women much younger and much older than me for this exact reason. And I get shit for dating anyone outside my age range--you'd think it would just be for dating younger women, but it's amazing how many friends and family just want men to be baby factories, even if they won't say it outright like they do with women. Lastly, u/princessangelbaby_ woefully underestimates sex, it can not only be a spiritual and transcendent experience, it's indicative of poten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone had their problems solved by getting into a relationship?I used to agree with this, then I discovered abusive girlfriends. They are excellent teachers if you want to learn to appreciate being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 05:41 PM |
| 4 | Question for Women: How does your ability to have casual sex with really attractive men affect your perception of your attractiveness and expectations for the men you can marry?The all-women sex parties usually put the name "goddess" somewhere in the title. So they're more private about sex than men, but that doesn't men they have less of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/20 07:43 PM |
| 2 | So many issues could be avoided by legalizing and normalizing prostitution.I’m all for prostitution though and would like it to be distigmatized on top of legal and regulated. It's better to make prostitution decriminalized, as that prevents the license issues that allow cops and brothel owners to exploit and pimp women who fear losing their licenses. Also: if you don't need a license to fuck, why should you need a license to fuck for money? Destigmatisation will only come with visibility, people like to scaremonger about anything that isn't part of their world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 03:00 PM |
| 5 | Men can't handle life's burden of performance because they were not trained by their father to fight for what they want.Nature plays a huge role when there is no parenting. And as your example shows: having a father does guarantee having a parent: many fathers only train their kids to repeat their own fuck ups, rather than learn from them. I also grew up without a father, and I find it shocking that the most important lessons I learned aren't being taught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:12 PM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I see men who are even in relationships with women, and they're stuck in this Catch-22. If they start expressing their masculinity, it can scare the women because it's so out of character, and that is a time when it's essential he's able to make her environment safe, and allow her to feel safe. Most men are severely handicapped by the notion that sensitivity and masculinity are mutually exclusive. The exact opposite is true: the more masculine you are, the more you need to be sensitive to a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer men that know nothing about women for relationshipsAlso being naive about the opposite sex has no correlation to being open to trying new things. Well, young people tend toward both. Younger people also tend to be more incompetent at everything (lacking experience), so it's a matter of picking your priorities. As we age, open people tend to become more open and focused people tend to become more stuck in their ways. I haven't had any trouble finding 'moldable' women my age or older, because I'm pretty eccentric and outspoken and tend to repel an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:59 PM |
| -1 | Reuters: "Sexual activity among young American men has declined sharply since 2000, with nearly a third reporting no sex with a partner in the prior year...So although at first we can tell men sex is a want, large numbers of men will eventually have zero reason to try and will start crashing the economy. Thank you for realizing that economic inequality has destroyed men's gender role in society. In the 60's a blue collar job could afford a house, a car, and provide for a wife and kids. Today, a white collar job can barely afford an apartment in most cities. The economy hasn't shrunk during that time, it's been captured by people who don't work. Bla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:16 PM |
| 6 | The recent chain of posts reinforces how apathetic women are to men's emotions.Assume all guns are loaded. Assume all men are rapists. Men hate when this logic is applied to them and are willfully ignorant of their hypocrisy. I have even less empathy for men, because I'm living proof they can do better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 02:42 PM |
| 9 | For men who are upset they can't express their dark emotions with women, why don't you channel those emotions into art instead?And this is the reason we have mass shootings in the U.S. instead of mass paintings. Men need to stand the hell up and evolve instead of asking the rest of the world to regress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 03:43 PM |
| 26 | CMV: Playing hard to get is actually a good strategy in order to get with a high value maleIn conclussion, if you want high value men you have to be a high value woman yourself. So true. The guy in the OP's example is not High Value. Only people afraid of commitment want partners who play games. This is true of both men and women, but the guy in OP's example is clearly only interested in the first stage of a relationship and would probably cheat to get that excitement again after "settling down." People who are sick of games appreciate truly appreciate each other. This doesn't mean yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/20 05:37 PM |
| 24 | How much of female love is performative?This is also the result of applying a microscope to women without taking a second look at men. Most men would not go to the gym if they weren't trying to fit an archetype. Most men would not make more money than they need if they were not trying to fit an archetype. Archetypes establish life goals and values. They are not "performative." You literally do not have a personality outside of the archetypes you choose and how you adapt them to suit your situation. I know Americans have this delusion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 03:08 PM |
| 18 | What have we learned about women now that they have economic, social and sexual freedom?The Handmaid's Tale is strong in this one. Men with freedom behave just as badly and no one's talking about enslaving them to fix the problem. If men worried about bringing value to women instead of exploiting value from them, this wouldn't be an issue. Men who understand self-improvement already know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Women. Knowing what you know and what we discuss here, if you were a man , would you get married?Why should you have to enter into a legal contract with the state just to be someone’s partner? Leverage. Women feel they have less power in society than men, generally, and marriage allows women to leverage the power of the state against men. The harder road is creating a relationship of equity where your partner doesn't feel like they need power over you. That takes skill and compassion, and even if you do everything perfectly, you cannot force someone to trust you. The biggest hurdle is findi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Men don't approach anymore ...I actually think they shouldn't just hit on strangers if no prior contact has been made. This. As I man, I've started to constantly ask the question: what reason does she have to believe I'm not a serial killer? If you get offended by the question, then that empathy gap is your problem with women. Yes this is guilt until proven innocence, or as women see it: "better safe than an episode of that true crime show." The good news is that, on the flip side: creating safety is all the game your need. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 11:19 AM |
| 1 | FDS isn’t good dating advicein terms of getting an actually HVM it seems to fall flat That’s what the FDS Level Up sub is for, but it’s admittedly less popular, which is a decent metric of how many FDS women actually want a high value relationships and how many are just entitled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 04:26 PM |
| 1 | FDS isn’t good dating adviceit teaches them to not settle, but everyone does eventually Patently false. Almost everyone dies single, and many people never have an LTR through middle and old age. The question is if you can stand being by yourself. And if you can’t, why do you think anyone else could stand being with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Me and the boys getting ready to shitpost on FDSradfems actually agree with FDS and only dislike it because they are TERFs else they are cool with the misandry Can confirm. I'm cool with the misandry because snowflake men who are triggered by the phrase "Low Value Males" have just outed themselves as low value and their purpose in life is to shut the fuck up and level up. That was actually the same idea behind The Red Pill, before it got poisoned by blackpillers who'd rather complain about women than do a pushup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 01:29 PM |
| 4 | So lonely....I am the asshole for wanting to do what she asked? I wouldn't say you were the asshole, but you were mistaken: context and subtext are important and taking someone too literally can cause confusion. Source: any client-centered line of work in existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 12:09 PM |
| 16 | So lonely....See also: Stacey-only Incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 12:06 PM |
| 3 | Where do you disagree with the Redpill?I know women find looks important but never THAT important Some women treat social media as their real life and dismiss/apologize for assholes, as long as they present well at social events. Though in fairness, that's not just looks, it's actual charisma. Charming people can get away with murder. Like, literal, actual murder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 01:23 PM |
| 4 | Oh look 90% of male users hereIf you take a general statement as a personal attack, you have also lost the argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 01:00 PM |
| 6 | At the end of the day, women want all men to be simps. Also, women are chameleons and actors.Men want a woman to be their live-in maid personal chef supermodel secretary cheerleader sex fantasy, but men who offer anything in return are simping, lolk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 12:50 PM |
| 5 | Is the happiness and fulfillment of bottom tier men dependent on the suffering and misery of women?How do you know this? Women use this argument all the time, but is it even true? Yes, it is true. You can know by asking women. They will tell you. If you have to explain somebody's life to them to have a conversation, then you don't know how to listen. Suddenly when life gets a little bit tougher men get a little bit more appreciated. You're proving the OP's point: these men were low value in secure times, because women don't need men for security in a functioning society. It's only when societ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/20 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Society works best when the base assumption is men and women do deserve sex and relationshipsIf you start throwing out all such women you run out of women pretty fast. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You project this onto every woman you see because you think it is true of women as a whole. I look for confident, noncomformist women who are not slaves at the bottom of their social hierarchy and consistently find the opposite. Location matters, though, and it’s much easier to run out of women in the midwest than it is in any major metropolitan area, so I admit my experience is not pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/20 02:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Short man syndrome is monster created by men as much as women — if not more.The females bee hive won't fight for male problems, but expect males to help them fight for female problems. That's because, looking at the heads of state and heads of corporations, men are literally in charge of the world and women aren't. Maybe men should admit that it's other men causing a lot of their issues and rightfully direct their aggression at the power structure responsible for it instead of wrongly scapegoating women? It's just an idea, certainly hasn't been tried. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 11:08 AM |
| 7 | How is it possible for a man to attract younger women and yet not be good enough for women his own age?You're missing the point. Younger women are more gullible, because younger human beings are more gullible. If you're relying on "this one weird trick" (aka Game) to get you laid, chances are an older woman has seen it all before and if they fall for it it's only because they're playing along. Older women are attracted to emotional stability and worldly success, which are far more difficult to acquire. Men who rely on tricks have an easier time getting a relationship with someone less experienced… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 01:43 PM |
| 6 | Men are jealous about women's sexual powerTrue, but societal expectation still puts it on men to secure sex and on women to secure the relationship. If they have a deep relationship with no sex, that's being friendzoned and the woman supposedly has all the power. If they have sex and no relationship, that's FWB and the man supposedly has all the power. Of course, in the real world, many men value friendships and many women value sex, but we're speaking in generalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 01:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: How much is your self worth tied to how sexually attractive men/women find you?On a scale of 5, 5 meaning very much, 1 meaning not at all. How much sex you have / are able to have 5-Very much. When I'm having a lot of sex, I feel like I'm able to take on the world; whereas when I'm not having sex, just getting out of bed in the morning can feel daunting--which is one of the reasons I sympathize with incels. The quality of the sex you are having / able to have 5-Very much. I've found sex is much better when I focus on my partner's pleasure and I'm neither focused on my own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Women don't understand why promiscuity is undesirable because men who are able to cheat are high-value, whereas all women can cheat and those who do are low-valueMen bragging about sexual conquests is also a fetish born of insecurity. And men being worried about how many men a woman slept with is also born of insecurity. Being on a long list of the men she's slept with is only a threat if you imagine placing near the bottom--and men who worry about crap like this instead of spending time improving themselves probably will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 03:55 PM |
| 18 | [Q4RP] Why is the anger phase directed at 4 billion women?There is no rational explanation. The fact is that most men refuse to take responsibility for their own shortcomings and logic is that women are a convenient scapegoat. All bigotry works this way. That’s why the manosphere tends to be racist and nationalist, as well as misogynist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Do you realize how powerless BP men feel in relationships with you?There's a difference between real power and "screwing with another person's autonomy for the lulz,"--that's sociopathic abuse to trigger the feeling of power. Real power is cooperative, not competitive, that's why an army is more powerful than a soldier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 05:13 PM |
| 0 | What does a guy with good "game" do differently from guy with mediocre/bad "game"?This. A lot of women have their own money and don't care what a man does for a living as long as he can impress friends of her own social status and above at a gathering. Fortunately charisma can be learned. Unfortunately, it takes just as much discipline to do successfully as getting in shape--which should also do if you're serious about upping your charisma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 03:07 PM |
| 6 | There are two sides of the nice guy issue.That's not to say that most dudes are "nice guys", but we tend to not be motivated by kindness when attractive women are involved... Testosterone is a hell of a drug. Being nice on testosterone, especially when you're young, is hard mode. Trans women leaving it for estorgen and trans men taking it for the first time often report their shock at discovering this. It's powerful enough that men who are normally nice can turn into complete assholes on occasion when instinct decides they have to be ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 02:27 PM |
| -1 | Do men here realize that the women who post here "care" more about men's issues than like 99% of women do?This from the OP, who says that women who post here care so much about men and their plight. Would you date a tall women? No? Then bite your tongue. 100% of women correctly identify this behavior as men being big babies screaming "OMG, YOU GUYS, LOOKS MATTER!!!" When women are taught this from birth and have to grow up accepting it and create the best life for themselves, regardless. Are there women who despair at the hopelessness of their lives because they didn't win the genetic lottery? Oh he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/20 11:12 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP - ELI5, what needs to happen for Red Pill Theory to be more accepted in society?It's to silence any narrative interference that everything is a mans fault, OMG, can redpillers take responsibility for anything without going straight to this defensiveness: "so everything's my fault, now!?" Do you ever wonder why most women see you an manchildren? Make a clear delineation of what you are and are not responsible for and we can start having an adult conversation about the responsibilities of men in modern society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/20 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Paper Abortions I want to here more arguments against this from people who actually believe in abortions but dont agree with paper abortions because I dont see how you can hold one but not the other. Don't see or don't want to see? The burden and risks of pregnancy are disproportionately shouldered by women. The current legal framework doesn't even reverse this, since collecting child support is notoriously difficult, it just shifts some of the burden onto men. The incentive with paper abortions would be to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/20 01:18 PM |
| 5 | Have any of you genuinely tried to become a HVM? (by the FDS definition)So AFBB essentially. Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks ARE BOTH LOW VALUE MALES. Neither pay attention to women, they either expect attention for free because they're awesome or they throw money at women instead of paying attention. High Value Males pay attention to women, they care about how they think, they pay special attention to how they feel, they don't need a woman to help with basic adult skills, they are detail-oriented, and all of this stems from higher emotional intelligence than men in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/20 11:32 PM |
| 17 | When women criticize men, they are only referring to the top 20%. When men criticize women, they're referring to all women.You're talking about the top 20% of women, you're just oblivious to the experience of women who are minorities, older, or not conventionally attractive. You know the experience of the bottom 80% of men because you live there, but you ignore the 80% of women you aren't attracted to and proceed to generalize away... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/20 01:49 PM |
| 5 | Why are men angry at women for doing the same thing they’ve been doing for years?I'm skeptical that more than a couple guys even care, it's just a way to attack and shame women for using sexuality for their own pleasure--instead of placidly waiting at the finish line as prizes to be won so men can compete with each other, pay attention to each other, and completely ignore women. To answer the OP: women had a sexual revolution last century that changed the rules. Rather than have a sexual revolution of their own to catch up, men have instead decided to have a reactionist back… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/20 02:53 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men have such a hard time relating to what women find attractive, because the traits that make a man atrractive to women are not the same traits that make him respectable to other men.These comfort traits are unarousing You’ve just proven the OP’s point. Men only pay attention to what they find arousing about other men, project it onto women instead of acknowledging this superficial self-love, and then pass it off as “knowledge about women” citing their own confirmation bias as evidence. Personally, I think alphas are way to obsessed with other men to be competent partners. The only reason they need good looks, money, and every other superficial quality is to offset their ina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 08:25 PM |
| 5 | Alot of men could avoid heartbreak if they stopped pursuing shallow relationships.love requires bravery. A lot of MGTOW guys use shallowness as a way to protect themselves from this kind of damage because they are cowards at heart. Truer words I have not seen on this sub. If you don’t open your heart, you will never feel love. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/20 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Where were young men/boys supposed to learn the correct way to be attractive?One could see this as moms actually withholding important knowledge from boys. Why would they do that? If it came from a place of worshiping men, then these moms ironically did a great job at destroying their future men, it seems to me. Can confirm. I was an incel because my mom did this to me growing up. Only continuous rejection from women and a masochistic amount of time spent at the gym taught me that I have zero innate goodness and women only respect hard work. My mom did it with the best o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Where were young men/boys supposed to learn the correct way to be attractive?I mean, the School of Hard Knocks is supposed to teach you how to teach yourself how to do better. To adapt. You'll know that you've learned something when life starts hurting less. On the other hand, if you follow the Hamster of Doom into the Depression Spiral of Oblivion, that's just masochism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 05:57 PM |
| 9 | The biggest mistake Men make is equating being likable with being fuckable. For Women it's the reverse.I blame Hollywood for showing men that the author-self-insert-NiceGuytm gets the girl and showing women that sex inevitably leads to marriage-and-children-and-love-forever-and-ever-amen. Unfortunately, there's a nonzero number of people for whom life does really work out that way, and so a tiny fraction of couples built on a foundation of mutual delusion get stereotyped, while the vast majority of human romantic experience gets called "abnormal." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 05:47 PM |
| 13 | Which gender is the most sex negative?It's still men. Men treat sex a resource to be strategically exploited. see r/redpill Women figure it they have to be treated like an inanimate resource, they might at least be treated as a valuable resource. see r/FemaleDatingStrategy While they may be equal in amount, women's negativity is not possible without men's negativity. I don't buy the false equivocation. Sex positivity requires the freedom at all times to have your sexuality treated as an aspect of your personhood and not a resource t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Learning more about the opposite sex breeds resentment not respect.r/Menslib doesn't belong in that group, they're moderate-left men, which is not the general population, but far from a fringe group. Both men and women generalize their personal tragedies because dating is hard and it's easy to give up. Listening to defeatists is toxic, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 07:38 PM |
| 15 | If women are so attracted to dominance and fear-inducing behavior, why do they seem to hate men so much because of it?The problem is they still listen to what men say, which is usually projecting the qualities they prefer in men onto women's prefences. Watch what everyone does and listen to none of what they say and you'll be fine. Related Pro-tip: words are verbal actions, not just carriers of information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 02:06 PM |
| 7 | If women are so attracted to dominance and fear-inducing behavior, why do they seem to hate men so much because of it?Probably an old instinct that is now at odds with the conscious mind. It happens a lot in modern society where our old instincts are not always helpful. Yea, those instincts are now suppressed and often need to be expressed privately... like at home. That actually explains a lot about why a quality that women used to select for is now often a source of fear and disdain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 02:03 PM |
| 11 | Where did "I Am The Prize" Go?You never see FDS discuss what they bring to the relationship. Have you actually read FDS? They talk about the value of a Live-in Maid, Home Chef, Sex Worker, Secretary, and Therapist combined--which are all the roles expected from a woman in a relationship---and how it absolutely dwarfs the value that men bring to a relationship as a harsh economic reality. And it's not just FDS, my own GF laments how infantile her exes were--in terms of basic life skills as well as emotional maturity--and how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 01:32 PM |
| 1 | A lot of issues brought up on this sub aren’t gender-specific, and tend to be people-specific in actualityThe chances of everything that happened in the past are 100%. This is why nobody agrees on future chances. It's called the anchor bias. On top of it, people demand >50% success rate for any activity because we've evolved to be overly failure-averse, not realizing that the losses of a failed approach are minimal, the lessons learned can be highly valuable, and the chances go way up when you commit to multiple attempts in advance. I lot of disagreements in human thought are surprisingly technical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 01:10 PM |
| 7 | Men: does it ever feel awkward talking about “Chad”?Chad is the great and terrible God of Incels. He embodies all of their values and allows incels to pretend that they perfectly understand women when in reality they have the emotional development of a twelve year olds and no ability to understand what a real woman wants. Incels worship Chad and Chad grants them freedom from trying: they don't need to work on themselves, because they were cursed with non-Chad genetics; they don't need to empathize with women because Chad assures them that real wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/20 06:38 PM |
| 6 | A video released a few weeks ago of various women claiming that men are not allowed to turn them down for sex. What do you think has made them think this way?it was sexual expression that likely caused their subjugation This is like saying free speech causes censorship. Yes, if women never took ownership of their own sexuality, men wouldn't have felt the need to beat and terrorize them into giving it up. That doesn't make it right. Sexual expression is liberating, strengthening and empowering because sex is power. Red Pillers fear women and use coercion (if not outright violence) to gain power over women and take control of their sexuality. Unlike Re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 03:09 PM |
| 5 | The real reason why women evolved to be "deceitful" is male violenceeven when there's 0% chance of male violence Prove it. I will believe you are 100% likely to respond to women with physical violence until you prove otherwise. You are guilty until proven innocent because women do not owe you anything. If you have no evidence, you can't blame women for not believing you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 03:01 PM |
| 8 | It's not that Men get angry that women don't want them, they get angry that women don't respect themYou do not understand feminism. It is not an intellectual stance for women, it is a lived reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 01:29 PM |
| 13 | It's not that Men get angry that women don't want them, they get angry that women don't respect themYou have to show respect to get respect. Are you respecting the woman's need for safety by approaching her? What assurances does she have that you're a safe person? Do ever consider that she probably binged watched true crime shows last night and watched guys who look just like you kidnap, rape, and murder women for years or decades before being caught? I actually pivoted by dating strategy to focus on safety instead of attractiveness--look for mutual friends, hobbies, and other reassurances, ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 01:27 PM |
| 2 | Men don't actually want or like when women are honest about their preferences.You really don't understand women. Some people are body-agnostic because they want intellectual intimacy and everything else is negotiable. This is how Stephan Hawking found a wife. Generalities are not universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 01:14 PM |
| 2 | Men | ContraPointsIt is rather convenient, that her conclusion doesn't require any effort on her part. Do you seriously want a trans woman to tell you how to be man? I don't. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/19 03:51 PM |
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