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That is very kind of you to catch on that your projected your frustrations with insecure women at me. I respect you for that. This isnt a common trait in men or women to be savvy enough to be self aware. Now as to that dude - it wasn’t a date. I was very clear that for it to be anything I need to get to know him first. I have a pretty packed schedule and it was especially insane those days and I had to constantly tell him “Hey slow down, i will see you soon. I am not a person who drags things to…
/r/seduction04/08/21 07:36 AM
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First off thank you for commenting, I truly appreciate it. Just because I will contradict in some areas don’t mean disrespect. Obviously these types of debates help me get better understanding of men. If you would have read my other posts and comments you will have a bit more insight but let me break down some stuff here cause why make you sift through all that. 1)Some women get approached way too much that it becomes like an overstimulation. At that point you sound like everyone else. After rea…
/r/seduction04/08/21 06:20 AM
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This is the best post I have come across on here! slow claps
/r/seduction10/06/21 03:26 AM
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I didn’t read the text exchange but the comment about “wall of text” and girls who dont get a lot of dates theory stuck out to me. I send wall of texts to everyone men and women. I am an extrovert and very expressive. If I tell a friend “let me give you a short version” they laugh cause thats not a possibility. Everyone finds me entertaining and hilarious, and people say I should writes stories. Just saying some people just talk way too much. look of guilt
/r/seduction29/05/21 12:42 AM
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Well I can add one thing more about myself. I am not stuck in my perspective, I think that is part of being an empath. I might not agree with something or it might not be my cup of tea but that does not mean I can’t imagine someone else doing that. If one night of passion is where your head is it, who am I stop you? The only caution I will give you is that when you do get around to doing “it” make sure the party is on the same page as you - otherwise thats where someone’s feelings get hurt. I do…
/r/seduction10/05/21 06:13 AM
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I am actually a fairly quick writer but that does not mean that the messages don’t come from my heart. Anything and everything I say to someone is genuine and I put a lot of thought in it. The slow writing thing is new for me. I have realized I could have been harsh towards someone in my personal life because I always took it as a lack of interest or arrogance. I appreciate you explaining that to me. Mental Fog? hmmm this is another helpful thing for me as a human and woman to understand. I writ…
/r/seduction09/05/21 09:48 PM
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Sorry about the delay in my response. Whatever I will say here, I will try to carefully word it to avoid being insensitive. If something appears rude or mean - please ask me to clarify because I have zero intent of being anything negative. I am not sure how hard it is for you to guess if people are 100% genuine. But I am wondering if that is a common affliction many human beings suffer from who are not malicious? There might be a degree where some might be able to decipher it a bit better than o…
/r/seduction07/05/21 04:16 PM
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uh maybe you have a point. I am very new to this. So ignore? edit: see this is my empathy! lmao I think its bad to ignore ppl.
/r/seduction04/05/21 07:50 PM
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Yah? Being empathetic doesn’t mean being a people pleaser towards people who follow all my posts around and have nothing but negative comments to post. Eventually it gets dull and boring, gotta dish their sarcasm back to them - nah? edit: how many times would hearing about cosmo and fish comments will be exciting? Its almost like pavlov’s dogs now. I post and the same ppl with same comments show up.
/r/seduction04/05/21 07:06 PM
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Thank you for this wonderful insight. I am curious about what leads to this type of backlash as well. I specifically wrote on this topic because some users on this forum wanted me to speak on empathy when it comes to dating. Its nice to have upvotes but again its like social media likes, I don't do this for likes but help those who might need the message and benefit from it. Making a better community/society is each human's responsibility. So I will continue posting. But I really appreciate feed…
/r/seduction04/05/21 03:23 PM
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I wonder if this is why this whole subreddit group thinks I am crazy for posting things that I do. Requires some research. I wasn't raised in the US.
/r/seduction04/05/21 02:31 PM
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my man have you not heard of the concept of the wall? your fellow man will banish you for going after women past their "expiration" date. Haha. In my opinion though? GOOD FOR YOU! I believe everyone has a type, as long as its happy and healthy for both you and whoever you are seeing/dating/talking/sleeping with, no one else should have an opinion.
/r/seduction04/05/21 02:29 PM
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See no advice is 100% fool proof. I am not like the dating coaches who say "Try these 10 steps and the girl will be in your bed in under 3 mins". I am simply talking about a weed out/filter process. If you do these things it will get you closer to dealing with other decent human beings men or women who are respectful of others. If these steps fail then its actually a good thing! You don't want those disrespectful people. I am not an average looking person. I am also highly successful in my caree…
/r/seduction04/05/21 02:12 PM
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I actually do have empathy for men (and women) on the spectrum. I'd like to not get into details of why I am saying that here so publicly as its a bit more personal. Most of the stuff I am writing is from perspective of females that are like me, we make a part of the population as well. If I were to write specialized post for people on the spectrum, I'd tailor my advice differently 100%. It's very sad that people like me, you and various other folks who are good humans run into people that are h…
/r/seduction04/05/21 01:14 PM
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There are various reasons why a woman will stay with a cheater: 1)Overall health of the relationship before he cheated. Was everything good and then he cheated out of nowhere? She is deeply bonded to him and hopes this was a mistake. He promises it wont ever happen and she really wants to believe him and she stays. But he does it again... and maybe again. Its really upto her love and amount of patience she has before she will fully let go of the hope. 2)He is an emotionally abusive narc. He has …
/r/seduction04/05/21 12:35 AM
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Oh they were teaching empathy back then? I wasn’t born yet, so not sure! Also online dating in 80s pre-internet! Cool! Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Do you have any old cosmos laying around? you must read them to know this.I am very curious!
/r/seduction04/05/21 12:05 AM
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Your comment reminds me of this old folklore: https://medium.com/jumpstart-your-dream-life/the-man-the-boy-and-the-donkey-a-lesson-on-critics-e61990cf8a07 I'll explain why. When I write for both sexes, men remind me this forum is for men going after women. If you checkout the part where I started to talk about "Empathy in Dating", the sentence ends with "opposite sex" and not men or women. Also question: do you go pick up a book about time management in the time management section of a bookstore…
/r/seduction03/05/21 10:32 PM
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I am not shitting on anyone sigh Every time I post - I get the same fish comments and backlash from people interested in things that I am not writing about. Okay think of it this way just because me and my 20 friends love to eat our cheese pizza dipped into chikfila sauce (this is a real thing I like occasionally) and we are talking about the benefits of it and how to obtain your pizza and dipping sauce, doesn’t mean you can not eat your pizza with pineapples. The whole post is about my experien…
/r/seduction03/05/21 08:54 PM
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wonderful!
/r/seduction29/04/21 11:54 AM
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Yah but dont use it all
/r/seduction29/04/21 11:36 AM
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You know I saw your comment about geographic region and it really got me thinking - that all of this advice might apply more to one part of the world vs other. I might have think that through and post in the future. Again in regards to this. Older woman here (its funny saying that I am not THAT old lol) - I am successful and can take care of myself without needing a man. But I would like a companion... someone nice, kind and intelligent who shares the same core values as me. What am I gonna do w…
/r/seduction28/04/21 06:01 PM
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Well more like tips - I think most of my advice is open ended instead of “Stare her in the eyes for 5 seconds and touch her left knee” and bam fireworks lol. Well I mean.... its what came first question here : chicken or egg? Are we screwing up young men and women’s heads ? And teaching them to not be themselves? And play the dont text for 5 days and appear confusing/shady and break peoples trust but somehow succeed? Or Are we teaching these things because they were screwed up to begin with? I k…
/r/seduction28/04/21 05:44 PM
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Its funny... you dont ask me how old I am, or if I have had already found someone previously? And I love that you assume I will be playing a game - like every single human on planet earth is doing that. I actually dont play games at work or in my career either. I am very what you see is what you get. But fun fact: we need to focus more on relationship failures too. Not just HOW to get someone. I feel bad for the younger generation too (Hope you catch on I am not that young). Been there done that…
/r/seduction28/04/21 02:16 PM
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You see why I said what I said? lol
/r/seduction28/04/21 11:32 AM
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I am sorry, I feel your confusion and pain through your post. I will try to give her benefit of the doubt first then we can go the other way too. She might have genuinely liked you, but a lot of people I have noticed tend to slide back and forth. There are very few people who have blinders on and only like one person at a time (this is bane of my existence as I am the person with blinders). She might have realized after spending time with you that she isnt over her ex. Or when her ex found out -…
/r/seduction28/04/21 12:53 AM
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hmmm I hear ya! Or would you like to wait for the one who appreciates you for you? seriously asking to provoke some thoughts within you.
/r/seduction28/04/21 12:37 AM
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A woman can seduce her "nice" guy to be very dominant in areas where she needs him to be. Men and women are both able to adjust in the right relationships for them. Find your right match - grow together!
/r/seduction27/04/21 09:59 PM
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you are becoming my fave here! lol
/r/seduction27/04/21 09:57 PM
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This was news to me that men don't like to be called "nice". I have the nice girl syndrome. Don't know how else to be. It for sure stinks at times but why care about what the term is? Try not to go by society's definition of nice. Define it for yourself. Nothing wrong with being confident, caring and NICE? Thats better than most men I run into. Don't feel bad...celebrate yourself everyday!
/r/seduction27/04/21 09:56 PM
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Thank you for being kind in your response. But I do know what I want and maybe other women like me also do. And this is what works for us? I don't have numbers on "most" or "rare" - Almost all of my female friends no matter what age are like me. So my reality is what I wrote. But is it not fair to ask to be treated fairly? If people judged you based on what they have seen people like you do - how would you feel? Would you not work to educate and try to flip the script? Its like another thing? Ra…
/r/seduction27/04/21 04:29 PM
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Thank you for the encouraging words. I will keep them coming!
/r/seduction27/04/21 10:01 AM
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Yup! But I think they console themselves with being good looking, alpha and having one night stands. Eventually it will start to feel empty someday. Its sad but cant always help people see till they are ready to see.
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:37 AM
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THANK YOU! I 100% agree with you. I really love how one person said most women in 2021 don’t have self respect. I am like and here I am humanizing both genders but I am clearly deemed a moron cause I am a female. If they want to see how women like me treat different types of men differently, all they need to do is read through comments I leave on my post and others. I am talking to men like you respectfully and being friendly. The moment they start disrespecting me, I nicely push back without ca…
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:15 AM
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goes both ways. You have a good day too.
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:41 PM
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ya? this is my post of course I will respond to everyone on it. whats your reason?
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:37 PM
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Haha if you couldn’t see the connection in my question you wont get any of my posts. Its ok
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:35 PM
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I think what they believe is that to be confident as a man is to step on other people and demean them. Confidence actually means to be not phased by what anyone says and having enough logic to hear everyone out and learn from various perspectives. I agree with you said
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:34 PM
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Thank you!!!
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:31 PM
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You asked me what it is? I am sorry what? You have lost me. You just made me do a simple google search for you and my point is above in this point. Very confused
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:28 PM
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I have met other folks like me here. Just saying ✌🏽
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:26 PM
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https://puamore.com/wiki/kino-escalation/ does this help? first hit I got. I am not being an ass. I hope you are tryna learn too.
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:07 PM
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Haha! Bruh I am not going lalala but whats the point of discussing this with you when you are just here to minimize my experience and other women who are like me? I gave you a pass to continue living your life how you seem fit. Can I live mine why I need your permission? oh thats right I am a girl? is that it?
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:04 PM
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Thank you appreciate that. I want a man who is fit for me. And I would make sure I find him. They can negate my and women like me’s experiences all the want.
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:01 PM
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Its sad that they want what they refuse to give others. We are ALL HUMANS at the end of the day . But its okay I am not phased lol. I expected this.
/r/seduction26/04/21 11:00 PM
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Question for you honestly: If we live in an oppressive world and wish to see change should we continue sitting on our behind or do something about it? Game tells men to appear unbothered. I am saying dont. I am with you on this. Google kino. I have seen it many many places.
/r/seduction26/04/21 10:58 PM
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Well sure again! Thats what you want you can get that. Keep at it. I think I stated what I am here for and who I am here for in my opening statement. I respect your choices. I ask you respect mine 🙏🏽
/r/seduction26/04/21 10:56 PM
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I think we are both avoiding each other. I dont want to run into you and me into you! Not each others cup of tea. Just because you are a man you have your experiences and I have mine as a woman! One deosnt negate the other. Enjoy!
/r/seduction26/04/21 10:54 PM
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One more time as I have said before many many times. Keep looking at women as your next dinner and keep fishing for the rest of your life. Because you will always be hungry after sometime.Choice is yours. Goodluck to you in your fishing endeavors.
/r/seduction26/04/21 09:39 PM
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Well if you are looking for those “most woman who dont have self respect in 2021” and there are few posting here that are self respecting you are crushing them to prove your point. Who do you think will be attracted to you at this rate? The one who doesnt have self respect or the few that do? who do you want to settle with? I mean you get to decide that. Your life. I am just speaking up for women like me.
/r/seduction26/04/21 09:38 PM
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Sir - I love how you talk about women but dont expect them to chime in, because we are mutes? If this bothers you and doesn’t work for you keep doing what you are doing. If you are successful at what you are doing, why worry about what I am posting? And I love how “she has put her wild days behind her” Like woman are all cut from the same cloth. Oh she is 21? 100% guarantee she is wild. Its like saying all 18 year old men are either fuck bois or looking for long term relationship. shrugs
/r/seduction26/04/21 09:36 PM
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I think that works on certain women. And What I am saying will work on certain other women. At the end of the day game tricks will pull one kind of woman vs being nice another kind. If as a man you are happy with the picks you are getting then nothing to change in your action plan. But for the man who is looking for a good, smart, mature woman who respects him out of love and not fear of losing him - this is what should be done.
/r/seduction26/04/21 09:14 PM
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Oh this all sounds wonderful! Yes please feel free to PM me.
/r/seduction24/04/21 10:40 PM
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yes!! thats why I keep saying these rules/regulations can only be applied so much. Each human is diff cause of how they were raised and their life experiences. But about the ppl who arent self-aware. I used to get really upset about that. Until I started to distinguish between intentional vs non-intentional. Like some ppl are just arguing to prove a point or win. Thats a lost cause. But a person could be unaware of their patterns/issues but if they are willing to sit and assess if given feedback…
/r/seduction24/04/21 02:31 PM
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This is my fave area to discuss! And even in past relationships discussions centered in this a lot! Thank you for the idea. I will think of way how we can apply this early on during flirting, dating and going forward in a relationship. I appreciate your comment/feedback whole heartedly!
/r/seduction24/04/21 02:28 PM
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I understand the pressure on men to always appear strong. I am totally against that! And I am not just saying that, majority of men in my life family, friends and even exes I have always asked them to be able to speak up when things are bothering them. I am a huge proponent for mental health. I personally also believe that the world is moving into being more vocal about mental health issues too men or women. I have always hated "Boys don't cry" expression. Crying is an emotion and its normal to …
/r/seduction23/04/21 07:46 PM
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hahaha its ok! I had caught on but didnt correct you. No big deal. With this cheesy username... I most likely am a woman haha
/r/seduction22/04/21 06:06 PM
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I ammmm elatedddd for you! dances around the room Okay now the men on this forum will come get me for being starry eyed. They always say “dont catch feelings too soon”... jk! NOT lol
/r/seduction22/04/21 05:38 PM
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Flirting when sexualized is more based on compliments and outright hitting on someone. I think there is a form of gentle and playful flirting where you crack jokes and tease. The goal is to make the other person smile or laugh eg: Boy: I love trying out new food spots! Girl: Yeah me too. Boy: oh and love hiking! Girl: No way me too Boy: No you don’t! Now you are just sucking up to me - Are you about to sell me something? Cheesy but you get the idea. Once there is a lot of laughter over time you …
/r/seduction22/04/21 05:35 PM
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fill us in!!!!!
/r/seduction22/04/21 05:26 PM
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Thank you for your words of encouragement. I have been absorbing so much about game theory for so long from various sources and realized people like me are very under represented. A lot of main stream stuff just doesn’t work. I have to start finding a more solid path in my writing. Currently its jumbled. All feedback is welcomed :)
/r/seduction22/04/21 04:38 PM
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claps with excitement
/r/seduction22/04/21 04:11 PM
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Keep making women sound like your dinner and keep having to hunt for more dinner for the rest of your life. Choice is yours!
/r/seduction22/04/21 03:08 PM
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I will have to think hard on ways to create a filter system for online/cold approach. My immediate answer is - one must remain themselves and honest at all times and if we lose someone’s interest then they weren’t meant for us. BUT I understand about “desperation” - unfortunately we have all been there. The relationship you mentioned you were in that was game-less, those should become our standards for us to be treated with kindness and us treating others with kindness. Otherwise sadly one of th…
/r/seduction22/04/21 10:38 AM
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There are wannabe content creators who want to pump up people to be motivated to workout or wear the latest and greatest outfits.
/r/seduction22/04/21 03:14 AM
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But see men are visual creatures and women are run from an emotional place. You think that could be driving force in the rationalization you mentioned vs how I feel?
/r/seduction22/04/21 03:06 AM
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Hmmm is this happening in person? Also how do you know you are torturing her? If she is trying she must enjoy speaking to you?
/r/seduction22/04/21 02:38 AM
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what attitude? I thanked you? maybe my humor doesn’t translate over text/writing?
/r/seduction22/04/21 02:24 AM
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win win for everyone! at the cost of my distress I suppose. But next time I get it I will remember your filtration system and try not to feel bad! I appreciate this master insight on dick pics
/r/seduction22/04/21 02:08 AM
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I get approached way to much to the point that no matter who the guy is and what he looks like my answer is always no. I am an extrovert so Id talk to anyone on the streets, unless I am on a mission and have headphones on then I want to be left alone. I just have a hard time figuring out why would I say yes to a guy on the street... but I am the friend first person! So being hit on by a stranger is hard for me. If you run into a girl like me, its never about your or what you said. Its just how w…
/r/seduction22/04/21 02:05 AM
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For most women no! lol We don’t want a guy we just met or have started talking to send us a dick pick randomly. It happens all the time. Its never fun being surprised that way. I get really confused and upset when I receive them. Same for shirtless pictures. Unannounced isn’t good!
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:59 AM
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You know the interesting thing is each person has his/her own type. I think there is a lot that goes into building attraction. I realized I am a sucker for masculine voice and their tone. The way they deliver their statements. I have had super hot guys who when they spoke totally killed my attraction. But for me personality goes way to deep into building attraction more than a guy’s looks. How he makes me feel on a regular basis can be thrown in as well.
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:53 AM
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Haha nothing wrong with watching a chick you find interesting. Trust me girls do it too. She sounds like a pretty girl who has a lot of dudes interested in her. Probably the mystery adds to her appeal. I wonder if she knows and creates it deliberately or just seriously want guys to not come up to her by being stoic. You will have to find a way to set yourself apart from them. Don’t want to get lost in the sea of those guys. Could you work on a project together or be study buddies? Try to find co…
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:48 AM
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As creepy as it sounds lol you will have to watch her for a bit and keep records of her interaction with others. But if I were you, I wouldn’t worry that you blew it. A lot of times guys think they make one or two wrong moves and a girl will shut them down. But if she is a cool person she would change her mind if you get to a point of openly interacting with her. Meeting new ppl in the beginning can be awkward if you get in your head about doing the right or wrong thing too much. Just keep an ey…
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:32 AM
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Is she good looking? If she is used to men hitting on her constantly she might have the rbf deliberately to keep them deterred from approaching her. She could also be going through something in life. If I were you, I will find some part of the lecture that was interesting to talk to her about it as an opener. You could also see if she has a cool backpack or anything on her that is striking (no hair, body or outfit compliments right away) and say something about it. I feel as a girl who is mostly…
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:23 AM
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I appreciate your comment but my post was strictly dedicated to gaming play to shift power dynamics that most PUA coaches speak about. Maybe it isn’t too clear? hmmmm A man or woman can have bad days but I am strictly talking about game playing if you read the subject line. FYI - might help to refer to my two previous posts and discussions on them.
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:04 AM
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Sorry was this upsetting?
/r/seduction22/04/21 01:00 AM
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I can swap the content to 100% courting. i am going back and forth between the two. Thank you for pointing that out. Very much appreciated.
/r/seduction22/04/21 12:07 AM
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sorry very new here, is the a subreddit or a flair?
/r/seduction21/04/21 11:58 PM
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I am sorry to hear what you are going through but I can relate to you in some ways. I have been on a massive self work stint for last 3 years after a 10 yr. relationship fell apart. Like you I have always initiated relationships through being friends first. The only place I can’t relate is I am a female and I don’t go out to actually pursue anything or use dating apps etc. I am just sort of sitting still, unsure of a future plan. But working on ourselves isnt a very linearly rewarding emotion. F…
/r/seduction21/04/21 08:17 AM
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As a female, I will say a lot of girls your age or well at any age get rejected too. It doesn’t make it easier on anyone and I am not taking away from your reality. Having crushes would be a life long thing. As you grow older you will realize you could be attracted to many many people but you will have to dig deeper to see if that attraction is worth pursuing? Even after all that research we all come up short. There are tons of girls who wont care about your height. But you are at an age to keep…
/r/seduction21/04/21 08:03 AM
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Love this!
/r/seduction21/04/21 07:56 AM
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I prefer a guy who honestly speaks on where he is in life and who he is. Its also ok to be nervous. As few people mentioned already that eventually the truth comes out or if she is not ok with something then she isnt the one. Its a catch 22. Do you want to reveal things you aren’t fully happy with in the moment and find out the person sitting across from you, who you might eventually end up is shallow enough to leave you? Or do you attempt to fake it till you make it - what happens if you dont? …
/r/seduction21/04/21 07:39 AM
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You are very welcome!
/r/seduction21/04/21 07:28 AM
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Sure! I can do that. I will work on that soon. Hope you are finding my perspective beneficial to some degree.
/r/seduction21/04/21 07:27 AM
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I apologize for not following all the rules but what if we can meet midway and learn from each other? Is it really that impossible? I ask very sincerely
/r/seduction20/04/21 02:18 AM
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Well i secretly hope there was more to her interest in you then that. I can speak for myself. Like I said I am looking for a soul connection. So I think i like guys who treat me more like a human than a girl. Hence friends first... then I start to get to know them and usually Id come to love their personality and then sparks for me atleast.... i have bee duped by dudes who pretended to not like me then did all along. And then guys who I thought liked me but turned out they were just gaming me(th…
/r/seduction20/04/21 12:32 AM
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baby? too soon! too much! remember I am the slow weirdo? To be honest I have for a very long time said that women from a young age are allowed to openly talk, share and cry among friends. They learn from each others experiences too. Hence even in psychological studies say women emotionally mature 13 years ahead of men. Men are told to keep it all within themselves. You guys are on this community but a lot of men suffer silently and then they learn from mistakes and actually facing severe losses.…
/r/seduction20/04/21 12:24 AM
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Man who are these asshole women? I really dont know one. But I suppose I picked good friends for myself. Yeah I really want to know ins and outs of a man. I want to know his desires and help fulfill them. I want to know his fears and help support then as he moves past them. My deal breaker in my last relationship was trust and loyalty! I asked for nothing else. When that went I still gave it my all tried to fix shit but eh... Maybe you are right, I do hear a lot that men dont know how to read me…
/r/seduction19/04/21 06:01 PM
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Interesting! Thanks for the clarification. This really helps me gage how things in the dating world are. I mean I have had this conversation with my female friends. Because I am older and single (might not look it - so most men get thrown off when I tell them my real age). That the guys who are left over - are also problematic. So no one picked them. But then I have to remind myself that life circumstances brought me here when I had a long term relationship that fell apart. And I can't judge all…
/r/seduction19/04/21 05:49 PM
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Thank you I do truly appreciate from the bottom of my heart that you and few other guys on here have taken time to explain to me few things that have been bothersome for me as a female. I do commend you guys for being understanding more than some men I have dealt with in real life, for taking my words at face value and meeting me midway. Maybe us being strangers it seems like less of an attack? And everyone eventually calms down and hears the other party out. Yeah i think what I am realizing fro…
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:56 PM
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I dont mean any disrespect so I will try to explain how the conversation between you and I are flowing. I keep stating I understand to some extent what is going on with men, I came to read more on that. I find these discussions interesting because through them I am learning more. In many other responses I have written in last 24 hours - I have called out women along with men on things I dont agree with. I feel not “heard” by you so I explained my side. I was trying to meet somewhere in the middl…
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:32 PM
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You are welcome. Only word of caution Id say is. Be careful out in the dating world. If you run across a decent woman. No need to play games just talk to her. If she tells you it hurts listen to her. But watch for signs of manipulation. Thats when you remove yourself from the situation as soon as you can. I am always around if you want to shoot questions at me :)
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:09 PM
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Haha thank you! I appreciate your comment a whole lot. I am here to figure out what the hell am I to do with men in my real life cause I have caught them doing this. The only way to protect BOTH sides is by having open dialogue. But we need open minds for that. Some have been able to follow along. Others are bashing me for just debating and presenting another perspective.
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:07 PM
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I think at this point in time you will throw me out if you had the power to from this forum lol but hear me out. I think emotions are healthy. I urge men to cry too lmao. I am serious! I am am massive empath. I would cry at a drop of a pin if I think the pin got hurt. But I value feedback and criticism. Its the only way anyone can improve. I came here expecting to teach and also learn a whole lot. I work in a field where data analysis is my life blood. I have to rectify situations fairly quick b…
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:05 PM
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I will say this and please try to walk in my shoes for just 2 mins. Because I am really trying to understand the male perspective but would also like to be heard: Power sometimes can be useless. Too much of something can have ill effects. Everything is good in moderation. I am probably not an average looking girl. Growing up I had very low self esteem and thought I was ugliest girl on planet earth. My age prolly is the only disqualification factor for men following this forum but in person most …
/r/seduction19/04/21 10:26 AM
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oh you know me so well sitting million miles away just because my gender is a female. Explain your rationality there sir? I am not here to upset folks. But seems like thats whats happening in some cases.
/r/seduction19/04/21 10:02 AM
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Maybe the sexual frustration is what is causing this unnecessary lashing out directed at me? I am not trying to be an ass. I am poking holes in age old principles that dont always work on all women. I mean if they were 100% working men wont be sexually frustrated after reading these forums at all! You can sit here and justify your principles by calling all women irrational or you can learn other perspectives that can explain why sometimes - its not you, your looks, your self esteem thats the iss…
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:58 AM
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Thank you for calling out the absurdity here. In regards to arguing: I am not arguing. I really want to understand where these baseless reasoning is deduced from in some men’s head. How far does someone go to keep their narrative alive and ignore some one else’s reality. Its like a biased science experiment. Oh women like that could exist? Nope! I dont see it. It didn’t happen. This behavior is teaching me a lot about who and what I am running into.
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:47 AM
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I think folks like you always think everyone is attacking you or doesn’t understand, if they debate and disagree. I have read a lot of things you have mentioned but I am simply pointing out the variances from my perspective. You want to stick to your. method and get results you been getting? if you are happy with it then keep doing you. My post shouldn’t hit a nerve at all since you have figured it all out!
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:39 AM
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I wish the men on here will actually listen and openly talk. Just because I am female they dont have to get rude with me. But I suppose its the internet what would I expect? They barely know me and are passing harsh judgements. Anyway obviously I do appreciate all the intel you are giving me about this forum and men and their plight in general. I am fairly understanding individual and very empathetic. If someone explains I try to walk in their shoes. About the consent. Sigh ... I have had bad hi…
/r/seduction19/04/21 04:04 AM
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If it doesn’t fit your narrative.. its garbage and irrational? I have answered your question quite a few times through out comments below about what I think men go through in the dating world. I am not taking offense. You can stick to your beliefs and do what you think is best.
/r/seduction19/04/21 03:48 AM
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I mean I know myself? You cant discount my experience and heck my friends or their friends just because you have an idea of what most women are like. You are speaking in a hypothesis while I am talking from experience? You also understand there are various cultures in the world? and people’s upbringing also changes who they are and how they act? plus their childhood experiences. But if you want to live in your hypothetical bubble and minimize a bunch of folks’ life experience go ahead.
/r/seduction19/04/21 02:53 AM
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I didnt think id be so open here about myself but why not? I was married for a long ass time. So I have been there done that. Marriage is up in the air for me. Right after it ended I was certain I will only have a long term relationship. But now its more on who I meet and if they make me comfortable enough to go there. Every man I have dated (not many) including my ex has come back saying - they never found anyone like me. So I feel fairly okay saying I do what a woman can to make his man feel s…
/r/seduction19/04/21 12:22 AM
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I like bantering with you. I can say one thing. I understand its hard for men and I can also say not all females I come across are saints. I get that. For every guy who is heart broken over being ghosted - there is a girl who slept with a guy who promised her the world and made her feel special and ditched her. I think men like him and women like her should meet midway to finally find real love. Is that so bad to wish for? My real concern why i am here is that I fear this vicious cycle we have a…
/r/seduction18/04/21 11:17 PM
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Oh i communicate my intentions fairly easily. But if you think having empathy, kindness and truly wanting to help human kind that you come across ok a daily basis with not ever wanting anything in return is game playing then sure count me as one. 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/seduction18/04/21 11:10 PM
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Hmm... how long are we gonna hang onto she is a female and she dont know what she is talking about? I appreciate you atleast saying that I mean well. But isnt this basically saying what most extreme religious ppl say? No I believe me in xyz and i refuse to believe it can be any different. Dont mean to offend but seriously curious you dont think any woman not ONE might actually know what she wants?
/r/seduction18/04/21 11:08 PM
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I apologize if it wasn’t. I can tailor my advice to what your actual issue could be?
/r/seduction18/04/21 11:06 PM
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I am 100% and can talk communicate very well. I can talk to random strangers and become best friends in 5 mins. Is that not good communicatiin? haha also thats like saying a robber is the only one thats get robbed. Its usual unaware ppl who get robbed or used
/r/seduction18/04/21 09:28 PM
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the reason i started writing here is because i keep running into men trying all this stuff. I have seen them panic over a mistake which to me was no big deal. They expect me to react a certain way. No matter how many times I have told men chill out no big deal. I am opposite of whats being taught here, i get told “you are a woman, you are irrational”. Its sorta sad 🤦🏽‍♀️
/r/seduction18/04/21 08:58 PM
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I think “easier to date an older woman” depends on if you are confident yourself. After the last 2 days of conversation with you - I am putting you in the stable men camp lol. So I think you and I might be on the same page here. A guy who plans to game and confuse women to keep them might dislike dating older women. Thank you for calling out my hypocrisy unintentionally lol. I do date guys my age or older. I look very young for my age but refuse to date younger man. About getting more looks now …
/r/seduction18/04/21 08:56 PM
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Yeah I grew up in various countries... the culture background I hail from its disrespectful to stare someone in the eye. I had to learn how to look in the eye for job interviews. It bothers me when ppl say “If someone doesnt hold eye contact they are shady”. I am like but I was raised this way!? Do you still play some tricks on your gf to keep her interested?
/r/seduction18/04/21 08:43 PM
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thank you for saying “in your experience”... how do I figure out if i am a game player and dont know? I mean dont I need to know I am playing games... to be playing games? But I willing to assess myself if there is a test? But to be honest I have been told I am too naive and honest all my life. I am most likely not playing games.
/r/seduction18/04/21 08:41 PM
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Lol.. I am the companion OP! I might do a bit by bit response later. But please believe some of this behavior makes me feel the guy is not interested and I bail. I am too literal. You are either interested or aren’t. I dont know how to live in the grey areas. I suppose if you men all do this - women like me will be single forever. Cause I am not playing these games. I am asking for things very openly and honestly.
/r/seduction18/04/21 07:41 PM
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whole heartedly agree on the shy girl part!
/r/seduction18/04/21 07:32 PM
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Exacly! Guys want girls in their erly 20s, so the advice is crafted to ge those girls! The problem is that even if you wan't to date them long term, the best, most proven, strategy is still through casual->commited. I wrote my post for people looking for committed relationships only. I suppose I can start saying its not for people stuck in the "I only want a 20 yr old" mentality. For sure its harder to manipulate/game/seduce a mature woman who has worked on herself. Makes sense why these tricks …
/r/seduction18/04/21 07:08 PM
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Sir! lol with all due respect. I dont and I am probably not the only one in the world. Why weigh all women as irrational? when we know there are 35 kinds of men out there and we aren’t judging you all as the same? ❤️
/r/seduction18/04/21 05:45 PM
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Ah no need to apologize. Sure physical attraction is very important. For some people its the number one priority (scratch that most men it is lol) For most women too i guess? but there are folks who build attraction from a personality stand point? Isnt there a concept when you see a really looking man/woman but then see their behavior and its an instant turnoff?
/r/seduction18/04/21 05:01 PM
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Hey man! Some of the comments on here will be helpful and some will make you feel worse. Try to take everything with a grain of salt. I feel for you. I can imagine the pain you must be in. First of all I'd like to say don't listen to anyone that brings "gender" of who hurt you this way into question. There are plenty of other men and other women in your shoes everyday. But just because people treat others like shit and stomp all over their feelings/hearts doesn't make it any easier to deal with.…
/r/seduction18/04/21 04:57 PM
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Sure! just like men! I dont think you guys are all alike either?
/r/seduction18/04/21 04:41 PM
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Food for thought: Humans travelled by foot and on horse buggies. We have since acquired cars. Humans have built airplanes, we have landed on the moon. We have created intelligent systems and a lot of things are now being simplified for sake of efficiency. Why are we sticking to these unwritten rules? We have adapted in so many areas and rewired humanity. We have learnt will power etc. so why are we so helpless here?
/r/seduction18/04/21 03:39 PM
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Thank you. I am glad you understand game playing doesn't bode well, but "results" is where everyone who was or is still playing games loses me. Relationships become so transactional due to games. I am not sure what is worse one person unaware the game is being played with them or two playing games with each other? Relationships should be more about discovery, building and readjusting as needed - together.
/r/seduction18/04/21 03:36 PM
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To the right person some of your ordinary traits will be better than the best person’s in the world. It is just how it works. Thats why we see odd balls couples that make each other very happy and no one gets it but them.
/r/seduction16/04/21 07:10 PM
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well sure! But i mean what if we want to teach men how to seduce us? not sucha bad idea is it?
/r/seduction16/04/21 07:07 PM
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Thank you! Glad you agreed
/r/seduction16/04/21 06:27 PM
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Haha somedays I do feel like I walked out of 17th century with my ideals. But it will be nice if men and women of value stick to their guns and stay away from game playing. I wonder sometimes if I am just being myself and men think I am playing games? I will have to investigate more there. Playing games just pushes the reality to come out at a later date - both genders get hurt, so why do it?
/r/seduction16/04/21 06:05 PM
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I might be the unpopular opinion here (please don't penalize me), but I believe that we should treat others how we would like to be treated. If you found out that these girls were seeing other men and not telling you about it, are you going to be okay with it? The problem with situations like these is that I firmly believe men and women should be upfront from day one. If you plan to see multiple people, say so. Let the other person decide whether they want to be a part of this scenario. Some men…
/r/seduction03/04/21 11:47 PM
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I think being genuinely happy for others and believing that someday this could be you is what has always kept me from feeling down and comparing myself to others. I think the biggest takeaway from seeing someone else happy or obtaining something that you truly want especially when it comes to having a healthy happy relationship, is that it is attainable. It is not a fantasy or dream. If they got it, then one day we will too. Relationships are a luck and a chance thing. You can get into the crapp…
/r/seduction03/04/21 11:27 PM
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