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Well first of all, we don't 'hate' women on this sub. Sure there's some memes and crude jokes, but the foundation of the knowledge is based on statistics, biology, psychology, and cost-benefit analysis. As the saying goes, 'you can either love women or understand them' - we understand them. It so happens that anything less than unadulterated worship of women in society is construed as 'hate', which is probably why you see it that way. We are simply men acting rationally, with a wise crack here a…
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 11:57 PM
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I appreciate this information, didn't know about that before. That said, it's perfectly reasonable to take a piece of art and adapt it towards another meaning. The whole concept of the 'red pill' for instance, about the reality of things like government and gynocentrism, was originally taken from a sci-fi movie about human batteries and robot squids surrounding a simulation. That doesn't mean we are talking about robot squids and simulations when we reference the 'red pill'. I think OP's interpr…
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 10:56 PM
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Basically, you can't. AWALT is innate, and society does everything to enable it.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 08:34 PM
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Stardusk
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 11:11 AM
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Or even simpler...just dump her. Anyone who gives you shitty ultimatums doesn't belong in your life.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 03:49 AM
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You know you have a rock-solid ideology when everyone must be censored before they can even say a single word.
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 02:36 AM
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All men of all races are welcome, and AWALT, so I don't see us discriminating by race. And we don't like the tradcuck alt-right any more than they do. We could only be 'misogynistic' because facts are considered misogyny these days.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 10:06 AM
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The exact rate of false accusation is unknown, but from what studies are available, as well as observable reality we are most likely looking at a figure between 50-90%. For instance, a study in 2009 found that out of 101 subjects, 100% lied or at least were mistaken about date rape. Police records and prosecutors routinely indicate something like 40-60% of sex crime allegations are false, and those are only the ones that are provably so - the number that just get casually dropped on social media…
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 05:19 AM
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3 Bedroom house...one for his wife+baby, one for her bastard child, one for his wife's boyfriend. His game room is her shoe closet, while he has to go live out in the yard like a dog. C'mon guys, man up. How can you be a real man without this?
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 03:45 AM
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Why do conservatards believe Soros is behind everything? He's just one man and lost relevance like two decades ago. The vast mountain of evidence and red pill truths isn't enough to justify MGTOW? It has to be some kind of conspiracy? Anything to protect these idiots' poor, innocent women.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 09:56 PM
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While it's true that there are more male streamers than female streamers at the very top, the success:work ratio is completely skewed towards women. The top male streamers are some combination of entertaining, skilled (one of the top competitors in the world), consistent, long-time streamer (3 years+), creative, interactive etc. They are at the top because they deserve to be. The typical female streamer, even one of the top ones, is usually none of the above. They're not good at the game they're…
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 09:48 PM
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You're almost correct, just need to reverse "men" and "women" in that statement.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 09:41 PM
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His videos are accessible, but rather repetitive and shallow. The foundation of MGTOW is not based off the kind of stuff Sandman says, any oncoming member would be much better off looking at Spetznaz, Colttaine, HuMan, etc.
/r/MGTOW26/02/18 12:50 AM
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No means no, unless it means yes, unless it means no. #Metoo
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 10:43 PM
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I imagine that the "real problem" has been known for a while, but there's never been a way to get around it. Simply, the more gynocentric cultures eventually win out. Nations survive at the cost of individual male wellbeing. There are stories of ancient cultures which were actually quite advanced, but then mysteriously disappeared despite their technological and scientific edge. I wonder if it had anything to do with lack of gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 10:36 PM
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By my first point I merely meant that MGTOW can go tradcon fairly easily (and not be MGTOW anymore). You are correct that the basic tenet of MGTOW is to not be married. A tradcon can't go MGTOW nearly as easily. Female nature is the "key" to which these paradigms revolve. If it was like male nature, we wouldn't exactly have these problems. But it very apparently is not, and is also seemingly unchangeable (at least thousands of years of wars and civilization has not done it yet). So the unfortuna…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 10:14 PM
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The thing is, MGTOW doesn't limit a man. If a MGTOW wants he can go tradcon. A MGTOW can still invent things, work long hours to make lots of money etc. do whatever they want. I think the average MGTOW is like an engineer, programmer, or entrepreneur; not bad positions. They still contribute to society, as well as derive the sort of long term satisfaction from achievements that you describe; it's not all jerking off and video games every day. But the beauty is it can be. On the other hand, someb…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 09:52 PM
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While I agree that tradcon is better for society (MGTOW is inherently worse with not having children and minimizing workload), I'm not sure the same can be said for the individual man. If society is built on male sacrifice, then inherently individual male happiness is built on avoidance of said sacrifice. I don't think tradcon is worth it even with all the trappings, because at the end of the day you are still dealing with AWALT and gynocentrism. The unicorn myth is just that, a myth. The idylli…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 08:52 PM
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trad-con has the highest pay-off, both to the individual and the society Breaking your back in a coal mine or dying in battle was not some great payoff for tradcon men in history. Tradcon expects men to be packmules and cannon fodder, with no tolerance for any alternative lifestyles. It's in many ways even worse than feminist orthodoxy. And both are about sacrificing men to benefit women.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 08:03 PM
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You think being a democratic country means anything? All democracy does is allow for the tyranny of the crowd to prop up an entrenched power monopoly.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 07:16 PM
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They are still acting out their blue pill tendencies, only instead of a box of chocolates, it's a box of condoms. In a way they are even worse than natural BPers, because at least BPers are oblivious. TRPers have nearly the same knowledge base as MGTOW yet reject it to perform as dancing monkeys instead.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 06:59 PM
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Women have been false accusing long before the modern day political landscape, see Potiphar's Wife. Lying, manipulation and vengefulness is part of their basic psychological profile.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 04:01 AM
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Women stopped working for a day last year and the only thing that happened was the men at work felt some peace and quiet. If men stopped working for a day, civilization would collapse.
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 03:33 AM
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It's always with zero rationality provided. As if one day your genetics will incontrovertibly brainwash you. We evolved these large brains for a reason; even fucking bacteria know when not to give birth. As noted by OP, childbirth is contingent upon male slavery, so it's not agreeable for any individual man. Furthermore, genetics aren't worth a damn; any crackhead or crackwhore can give birth to a dozen kids, and any genetic legacy is mixed away in 3 or 4 generations anyway. If you're really hel…
/r/MGTOW24/02/18 01:51 AM
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Involuntary child support is a crime against humanity.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 11:57 PM
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Men have been saving the ship for millennia, and look where it's gotten us. Great technology sure, but still men who toil in the underworld to keep it propped up. The tradcon route is a dead end.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 06:53 PM
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Not news until she gets 20 years to life.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 06:50 PM
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Men swim through a sea of broken glass just to have a small chance of success. If you're being discouraged from a field by a TV show poster, chances are you just weren't that into it in the first place.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 07:47 AM
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I really do wish I never fall in that trap but lumping all women in a single category is little too extremist imho The truth of a view is based on the evidence, not how extreme it is. Extremism is relative anyway; what's extreme today may be mainstream truth tomorrow. What we know is that women are overwhelmingly more social than men, and they use social connections like men use their muscles. They do not manipulate the world themselves, they manipulate other people, mostly men, to manipulate it…
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 07:01 AM
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The world's only 4000% overpopulated, so there's room for one more, right?
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 06:31 AM
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Remember that "heroism" and "honor" are on the same axis as shame and blame - manipulation tactics to get men to sacrifice themselves for society. The reality is society doesn't give a fuck about you, even if you gave them your body and your life. They'll tell you you were a "hero for serving your country", then throw you in the gutter right after that. As sad as this is, the veteran should not have expected any differently. These nurses will get off with paid vacation at the worst.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 06:06 AM
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The rate of false accusation is astoundingly high. Women will almost always lie if it benefits them. Men who value their jobs must take extreme precautions like making recordings or adding witnesses to their meetings with women, because of how common it is and because there's no due process on the matter. When a false accusation has been determined, the false accuser faces no punishment, while the man faces severe penalties even if found to be innocent. It's a matter of injustice and double stan…
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 05:54 AM
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Tradcons are just as cucked as anyone else.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 05:11 AM
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Biological conditioning is a hell of a drug. I hypothesize that men's IQ drops about 60 points when thinking about relationships, and nature did this for reproductive purposes. If men treated women as rationally as they do with men, the human race would've ended a long time ago.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 05:01 AM
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More like cluster fuck.
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 01:24 AM
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There's no "MGTOW Studies" because MGTOW already sources its conclusions from science.
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 03:56 AM
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Their thinly veiled desire for the domination of women and their conviction that the current system oppresses men in favor of women are the unifying tenets of the male supremacist worldview. MGTOW don't want the domination of women, and the system DOES oppress men in favor of women, as shown by nearly every statistic you can find. Furthermore, history and biology shows that it always has.
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 01:30 AM
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Why do these pearl clutchers have any authority to deem anything a hate group? Their combined IQ and EQ is probably less than 50.
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 01:24 AM
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The rate of criminality, delinquency and mental disorder are much higher in children of single mothers because women are not mentally mature enough to raise stable adults. I don't know for school shootings in particular, but I imagine being raised by a single mother wouldn't help.
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 02:18 AM
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No amount of "beautiful" is worth more than just a quick fuck, and I can find more invigorating conversation with gas station attendants than most "classy and articulate" women. What she is doing wrong is overvaluing herself by several orders of magnitude.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 07:09 PM
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Aren't men like 10x more likely to be a victim of violent crime on the streets?
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 10:19 AM
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Wouldn't life inevitably spring up again, since life arose from the void before? And since there was no life in the interim experiencing anything, even if a billion years passed, the "extermination" may as well have been yesterday. Even if the premise was correct, that "all life must be destroyed", it's not really a permanent solution.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 06:08 PM
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The accusations from decades ago are just pure fantasy without evidence. Human memory is very flawed, you can literally remember things that never happened in that long of a time. And that's not even taking account the attention and power motive of #metoo.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 06:05 PM
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In the land of lies, the truth is treason.
/r/MGTOW19/02/18 05:46 PM
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Not only that, but for no reason, and she got away with it all.
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 10:21 AM
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Even if you meet "a wonder", the bottom line is still - never marry, never cohabitate. You get zero benefit for massive risk. Any woman that demands jewelry, ceremonies and a bondage contract in order to love you, obviously does not.
/r/MGTOW14/02/18 05:04 PM
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Why is she not in jail? Oh yeah, we all know the answer to that.
/r/MGTOW13/02/18 06:57 PM
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Well stated.
/r/MGTOW13/02/18 03:38 AM
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I'm with OP on this one, someone who isn't ready for the information isn't going to absorb any of it.
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 02:12 PM
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The thing with the soft sciences is you can find articles both for and against; without hard physical evidence or mathematics to back something up, you can pretty much twist the raw data however you want.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 01:52 AM
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In many ways MGTOW shares the same simple ideals as libertarianism: freedom, peace and prosperity. For some reason this makes us the crazy ones though.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 01:50 AM
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Transcendence requires things like abstract thinking, compassion, and morality, all things that women are short on. That, and the relative ease of most women's lives simply for existing facilitates very little towards transcendence.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 01:42 AM
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Some guys don't get the "A" part of AWALT. They think it's different in Eastern Europe or Asia, or the 1950's, 1900's, 1800's etc. AWALT describes the basic biological and psychological profile of women. It's been that way forever. It may be expressed differently on an individual basis, but it is there as sure as they have arms and legs. As many men have experienced, their perfect NAWALT can turn into an AWALT overnight because, surprise, they were AWALT the whole time. The only rare exceptions …
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 01:39 AM
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The level of cognitive dissonance required to think this should mark you as a dangerous person, of the same type as terrorists and cultists.
/r/MGTOW11/02/18 12:41 AM
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I'm not sure there's a strong chemical basis for phytoestrogens feminizing men, but there certainly is a strong correlation between simps and the mass consumption of soy products. Same with those thick black-framed glasses.
/r/MGTOW10/02/18 02:20 PM
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It was never fair. 1950's, Ancient Rome, hunter-gatherer societies...it's always been men working, risking, fighting, slaving and dying for women. To be a tradcon is not to be out of date, but merely to serve gynocentrism in another way. MGTOW is the radical view that men are human beings, not logs to be burnt as fuel for society. While feminism is outright hostile to men, tradcon is arguably more devious by tricking men into believing they are doing something noble while abusing them just the s…
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 11:22 PM
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Other tradcucks I guess. And despite him just being another regular tradcuck, the sad state of affairs is that even tradcuckery sounds intellectually stimulating in the midst of this feminist cesspool. I don't think he's being malicious about it; telling people to work hard and improve their lives isn't really bad advice. He's just wholly ignorant of the jaws of the system that chew men up regardless of what they achieve or how hard they work, just to briefly appease some harpies.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 11:11 PM
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Women fundamentally understand the world through their connections to others. They do not understand themselves or anything else objectively or conceptually. They need social interaction like a fish needs water, or without it they quickly suffocate.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 10:38 PM
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Women's definition of alone is very different from a man's. Male loneliness = no friends and hasn't talked to anyone in weeks/months/years. Some literally living out in the woods or on a mountain. Nobody gives a shit whether they live or they die. Female loneliness = 'only' got 90 likes on her fifth Instagram post of the day, only 3 beta orbiters offered to pay for her lunch, and she hasn't talked to anyone on social media in almost 2 hours. Women can conceivably be happier with their version of…
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 10:36 PM
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Guru Petersen wants you to man up and take responsibility so you can be better divorce raped.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 10:25 PM
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Debtor's prisons are removed. Which is one of the reasons why child support is so unethical.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 08:53 PM
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Stories like this make my balls seize up in terror. It's a perfect demonstration of gynocentrism. Not just some random woman, but the system itself is built to abuse and discard men. A well educated, industrious, reasonable man is worth less than any random woman, and any random woman has the ability to take anything she wants from that man, all backed by the state. It's a slaughterhouse, and men are the livestock.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 07:41 PM
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Keeping up the birthrate is sheerly an economic argument. More population = more GDP (all else being equal), and the last thing a government wants to do is to shrink. But society doesn't need or can sustain much more people. At our current population level, we are looking at running out of vital natural resources before the next century. Overpopulation is one of the greatest issues of our time, and all the mainstream shills can do is continue to push for more rampant childbirth and gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW09/02/18 06:05 PM
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Tradcon is a form of gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 11:12 PM
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In short, not my monkeys, not my circus, not my problem. The issues you pose aren't new. Many MGTOW came from MRA or tradcon paths beforehand and know about the situation you present. MGTOW is after all other options have been tried and exhausted. The mere mention of considering men's wellbeing brings along death threats. There is no point caring about a society that doesn't care about us. This may seem nihilistic, but nihilism is preferable if the alternative is injustice and suffering. 1) Fema…
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 01:28 PM
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MGTOW is not as opposed to feminism as it is opposed to gynocentrism, which is far older and broader. Patriarchy is also under gynocentrism, as it's still a system that induces the suffering of men for the greater benefit of women. In that sense, MGTOW is as against any patriarchal schism-fixer as anything else. From a broader standpoint, MGTOW is simply against the unjust treatment of men in society, but our take is that it's too deeply rooted for anything to be done. Men who try, fail, and get…
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 10:27 AM
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We don't know about his wife in particular. We do know the general odds though; it's about as common as winning the Powerball, and much costlier to pursue. I believe that even the best of men can't inhibit female nature, only endure it or satiate for a while. Inevitably the smallest misstep will lead to failure of the relationship, because women are amoral and endlessly insecure. And the man will be stuck with the consequences. Even men like Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp have failed. Forming long te…
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 07:48 AM
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Humans are social animals, but that social bonding can happen in many different ways. Marriage as we know it is a modern invention of only a couple hundred years. The idea that you somehow need it to be "complete" is a fiction used to manipulate men. Because of AWALT, there is no solace found in marriage. The social connections you seek can be through friends, colleagues, pets...many men also embrace the peace of solitude. Mike Cernovich is a tradcon, so it's to no surprise that he dogmatically …
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 06:03 AM
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That would be like saying humans are designed to pack on as much fat as possible, so to diet and exercise is unhealthy. There's our base sexual urges, but what makes us human is our cognition and morality. Both of those point to MGTOW. On top of that, from an ecological standpoint even the most simple organisms like bacteria know when to stop reproducing. Notwithstanding other issues, the Earth is extremely overpopulated, which brings on necessary biopsychosocial effects. See 'Mouse Utopia'.
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 05:22 AM
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Archive.org, screenshot, or permalink.
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 05:03 AM
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Well for one, it's just not true. Historical records show queens waged more wars than kings. More subjectively speaking, even female "best friends" think about how to backstab one another. On an individual level, women try to deceive, manipulate, and stir drama. Traits that aren't conducive to peaceful diplomacy. Men have more naked aggression, but it's also tempered with more rationality and order.
/r/MGTOW04/02/18 12:22 AM
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Could we call this 'Post-PUA' Syndrome?
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 11:35 PM
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All animals are "wired" to be a certain way. Think of worker ants or worker bees, who will march to their deaths if subjected to the right pheromones. Luckily, humans are also wired with cognition, which allows us to make rational decisions based on circumstances. This at least gives some degrees of freedom.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 10:31 PM
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It's called HR departments (which are 99% women browsing facebook), but even their bullshit gets leaked to the rest of the company.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 05:53 PM
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Keep in mind that this is the plan. It's not a "bad marriage". This is the endgame that women purposely try to achieve through marriage; essentially a male slave that she can kill off at any time, while she has the freedom to fuck around on the side.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 05:45 PM
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Remember that women are amoral. They can do completely horrendous shit for no reason and with no remorse. They will try to ruin you with no provocation, even if you had a long, positive, professional history together. In some respects this is even worse than being immoral, because immoral people are at least consistent and predictable with what they're about. And no surprise that TRP banned this content. The blue pilled dancing monkeys need to keep their delusion intact.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 05:53 AM
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And the alt-right idolize him. Goes to show how cucked tradcons are.
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 12:40 AM
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I mean, within reason. If you hire someone to demolish your building, then yell 'Stop!' while the wrecking ball is swinging through the air, it would be insane to charge them with destruction of property for any damage done. The best form, by far, would just be to not consent in the first place. If I were a judge I don't think I would call mid-sex withdrawal of consent rape unless there was significant force involved and no stoppage after a significant time after consent was withdrawn. Anything …
/r/MGTOW03/02/18 12:39 AM
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Not sure what you're arguing here. Rape is serious, but the vast majority of rape allegations are false, due in no small part to the inaccurate portrayal of the definition of rape in the mass media.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 04:29 PM
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It's not legally or technically correct. Rape involves either violence, grievous threats, or drug-induced unconsciousness. All of the stuff that gets labeled 'rape' in the feminist media are generally non-forceful, consensual encounters.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 04:15 PM
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Literally had this conversation with someone today. She said that rape is defined as "any unwanted penetration"...even if that unwantedness happens mid-sex, after sex, in her head, or in a completely fabricated story. They don't see anything wrong with regret rape or false rape allegations. We are dealing with intellectually and morally bankrupt zombies.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 11:19 AM
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You were expecting justice or something?
/r/MensRights02/02/18 10:20 AM
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Walk away at "It takes a strong man..." Typical shaming and blaming protocol to manipulate men.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 07:35 AM
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Tuck the Tradcuck
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 07:06 AM
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I dunno if this is a good thing. A man needs to be personally ready to accept the truth. There is already abundant information out there. On the other hand, feminists and other delusionals need zero reason to attack. We could expect a large amount of negative traffic off stuff like this.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 07:05 AM
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And that's not including the less taxes they pay, the more benefits they receive, child support, alimony, etc.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 07:01 AM
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You could be divorce finance consultant and a matchmaker on the side. Encourage cucks to get married to your future client (they're going to marry anyway), then get cut of the divorce proceedings. Lucrative, self-sustaining business.
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 03:16 AM
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It goes even further than that. Let's say you really know her. Let's say she really knows herself. Let's also say that you know and she knows that she's not crazy (we're already in fantasy territory here). There's still the ever-present gun at the back of your head. Society is still totally for her and totally against you. If anything goes wrong, it's your fault; you pay, you go to jail. She has reproductive rights that you don't; your children are never really yours. Heck, neither is your house…
/r/MGTOW02/02/18 02:31 AM
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Men have been expelled just for having a list of girls they had sex with.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 11:29 PM
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Now you're confusing a raw number with a (misrepresentative) percentage.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 11:23 PM
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Your knowledge of history and biology is so seriously lacking that no productive conversation can come of this. Also, your perspective is littered with false equivalence fallacies. I think it is best you do some more reading or listening of MGTOW literature, because stuff like this is foundational. I would be more than happy to discuss further with you after you've read at least a couple of books on MGTOW (like the ones I've suggested), or listened to some of the talks by Karen Straughan on Yout…
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 11:19 PM
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I think you are so driven to a victim mentality that you can't see reality for what it is. It is this wretched intellectual dishonesty that drives men away from women. We cannot live peaceful, sensible lives with a wild card that imagines crimes and stirs drama.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 11:05 PM
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There's too many misconceptions to cover in your comment. You believe men have been in control of society when women have always been the reproductive bottleneck. You believe that women were oppressed when it was always men that risked more, worked more, and suffered more, mainly for women, and continues to be that way. I suggest you read 'The Manipulated Man' by Esther Vilar or 'Men on Strike' by Helen Smith. Both of the above books were written by female doctors, and should address a good amou…
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 10:59 PM
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Women aren't all liars, but it is part of their basic biological profile to lie and manipulate. As the saying goes, "men manipulate the world, women manipulate men". Without it they are basically just weaker men. A large part of MGTOW is realizing the realities of the world and responding to it accordingly, rather than buying into lies and falling prey to the system. The results speak for themselves - we maintain healthy careers, bodies and bank accounts, while our counterparts get ripped apart …
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 10:28 PM
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It's absolutely inane that we believe women so much when their natural survival mechanism is to deceive and manipulate. I guess their greatest lie of all is that they're not liars, and it's succeeded.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 09:31 PM
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The 2-8% is a misnomer. Those are the positively provable false cases; e.g. defendant was exonerated by presence of text messages telling the guy to "fuck all night", or a verified alibi proving the guy wasn't even in town that night. There are a much larger number of unprovably false accusations, in which the case was almost certainly a false accusation, but there is no positive evidence against. Sometimes, exculpatory evidence is even intentionally withheld or forbidden. Studies show that unde…
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 09:24 PM
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Bluepillers aren't all soyboys. There's also cops, soldiers, judges, and every manner of tradcuck. And they have strength in numbers.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 09:03 PM
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That's never been the claim, what we discuss here are blatantly false accusations. Most of them are in the form of complete fabrications, or drastic changes of historical fact. The typical example is, consensual sex followed by "regret" months or even years later, leading to a false rape accusation. There are also cases of false rape accusation where sex of any sort never even occurred; sometimes the accused has never even met the accuser. Look up mattress girl, Duke Lacrosse, Rolling Stones etc…
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 08:59 PM
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A man can outrun, outfight and outsmart their female counterpart. What's "intimidating" is their army of beta orbiters and other blue pill miscellany that are willing to murder someone for a whiff of her hair.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 05:44 AM
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It's not even that they do crazy shit; there's abusive men out there too. It's that a) they are more haphazard about how crazy they are (usually no reason or justification at all), and b) the system doesn't punish them. They are free to destroy anything they want and it's men that have to foot the bill.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 05:37 AM
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10 years and sex offender registry should be minimum punishment for false allegation. It arguably does more harm than actual rape, and is certainly a hell of a lot more common.
/r/MGTOW01/02/18 12:25 AM
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Keep in mind these are the best women that men could find to marry.
/r/MGTOW28/01/18 04:26 AM
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Well put.
/r/MGTOW27/01/18 07:34 AM
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I don't think that's quite right, millennial is most commonly used to refer to those in their 20's and 30's. I've always interpreted it as people that experienced the millennium before they were 18, so as of right now something like ages 22-36.
/r/MGTOW27/01/18 12:48 AM
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Do guys go around calling themselves 'gamer boys'? Reminds me of that scene in Stranger Things where the boys think the girl is 'so cool' for just riding a skateboard in the parking lot. Women get lauded for the most minor/mundane things.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 10:34 AM
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The point is to live however you think is functional and comfortable. If you want to go for luxury watches and yachts, go for it. But from most people's experience, chasing expensive lifestyles is ultimately a hollow and impossible pursuit. If you have a lambo, somebody probably has a bugatti. If you have a private jet, someone probably has a private island. No matter how rich you are, there are people 10x richer than you, that make you look like a bum. There are even people 10x richer than Bill…
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 07:56 AM
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Its fundamentals are terrible, but its price is constantly being propped up by legions of low-information buyers, and has been for a long time. It'll probably crash someday, but I wouldn't bet against it for now.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:38 AM
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From his early videos you can tell he's more of a PUA type. He even looked down on a herbivore man from Japan at one point. That said, he seems to do more good than harm for the community with his constant content releases and reminders to go your own way (even if that means pumping and dumping).
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:33 AM
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Democracy is ideological communism. It promotes rhetoric and crowd tyranny rather than the best people or best ideas. It robs people of their individual freedom under the guise of getting a vote, which simply enables entrenched coercion. Whether you're for or against Trump, the best thing about the previous election is hopefully it showed people how much of a sham democracy is; when their choice of dictator is either an oafish TV celebrity or a hideous, disingenuous, murderer.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:29 AM
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It's social manipulation, nothing more. You are a monkey born at an arbitrary time on a planet in the middle of nowhere. You are not responsible for anything or anyone but yourself. There is no purpose to your life other than what you make of it. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to coerce you to do their bidding.
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:07 AM
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because he was worried about the influence older mgtow's could have on young, inexperienced men Like what? How not to get divorce raped? How not to get falsely accused? How not to throw your life away to a society that doesn't give a fuck about you? JP is a tradcon. A bright tradcon, but still a tradcon. If he could have his way, he'd strap a collar around every man and give the leash to women/government, so now those men will have "purpose". He simply cannot see out of his tradcon shell, and de…
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 03:59 AM
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There are many vehement feminist psychologists that have the same amount of experience, doesn't make their view any more valid. Ideas should judged by their own merits. Many of JP's perspectives are easily disputable. After 30 years and tens of thousands of hours, he's still unable to break through his tradcon shell, and believes that men will be most happy if they are hitched up like a donkey and work themselves to death for women. Still completely oblivious to biology and female nature. Talks …
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 03:52 AM
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JP has some good intentions and good ideas, but as a tradcon, ultimately his viewpoint is limited. The promised land of a fulfilling family and career that he espouses is rooted in ancient mythology...which itself was written as a way to manipulate society. There is no such promised land; the reality is brutal biology and survival, and those too dumb or too weak will buy into the fantasy and be devoured. Nothing wrong with trying to get people successful and happy. But the paradigm that he sees …
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 03:43 AM
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It takes me all of 15 mins per day to cook my meals and maintain my home. Kids are the last thing I want when the Earth is 4000% overpopulated and there is no justice in family courts. There is no sensible man that would sacrifice his freedom for the above.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 06:11 PM
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MGTOW is about understanding women, society, and how to maximize your own potential as a man, and thus not getting married is a fundamental tenet. Getting married means you do no understand any of the above. A women who cannot love you without a ring doesn't love you. Society treats married men like slaves. And wife and children are typically antithetical to achieving your dreams. A married MGTOW is like someone who claims they are a mathematician, when they don't even know basic arithmetic.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 06:06 PM
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A world without 99.999% of the inventions that form human civilization, and just a bunch of women backstabbing each other and quibbling over who has the most pebbles. Yeah, sounds glorious.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 07:50 AM
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I've actually seriously considered why this is the case; not only have I only seen this type of argument from women, it's also their go-to. They usually have nothing else to add to a discussion than "but not all...". Men conceptualize the world externally and disembodied, while women conceptualize the world internally and solipsistically. Men can take a concept and manipulate it independently, whereas women can only interpret a concept through themselves. This means men can look at a statistic t…
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 07:37 AM
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I'm almost 40, I need to get married and start a family before it's too late It's already too late.
/r/MGTOW23/01/18 07:17 AM
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Gynocentrism has persisted for eons, through all our wars, technological developments and cultural shifts. It predominates even now in the Information Age, where every reasonable man should be able to see it in full light and balk in disgust. Betting against the trend is a bad idea. Individual empires may collapse, but gynocentrism will persist. Women are too solipsistic and amoral to overturn it themselves, and the vast majority of men are commandeered by it practically on a physiological level…
/r/MGTOW21/01/18 08:51 AM
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There's several studies done in the UK and Australia, as well as crime statistics in the US that indicate false allegation rates above 80%, even as high as 100%. Here is an example.
/r/MGTOW20/01/18 06:30 PM
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The broader problem is false rape allegations, of which #metoo is merely the most recent trend. False allegation for sexual crime was as high as 50% even back in the 90's, according to Linda Fairstein. Modern studies and observable reality indicates false allegation rate might be over 90%. Considering most women get zero punishment for false allegation, they can use it fairly liberally and maliciously against anyone, and at any time they choose.
/r/MGTOW20/01/18 06:22 PM
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Me too. JP has some good insights, but unfortunately he is stuck in the tradcon shell. He doesn't offer any better advice for men than to return to the plantation. He tells people to have kids in the face of rampant overpopulation, he tells men to be industrious fathers in the face of overwhelmingly unfair legal and political conditions, and he completely ignores AWALT. His position basically boils down to: 'slaves feel better when serving their masters'. The idea of escaping, or real freedom fo…
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 01:10 PM
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Stuff like this is what the tradcons need to understand. Patriarchy isn't some idyllic societal setting from the 1950's, it is thousands of years old and yet another mode of gynocentrism. Slaving away for your entire life and/or risking your life for a woman is not what men should be striving for.
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 10:12 AM
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I've only ever heard women make this kind of argument. They think a cherry-picked exception disproves the rule. Bitch, that's why it's called the -exception-. It's like they've never worked with data or philosophical inquiry before. Oh wait...
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 12:20 AM
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It's the same thing when women say men are ridiculous for being afraid of divorce. It's not her bearing the risks. Furthermore, the rate of false accusation is astronomically high, probably at least an order of magnitude higher than the rate of actual sexual assault. That's the real problem, and there's zero talk of that.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 11:14 AM
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I've even seen it debunked by mainstream feminist publications. These sorts of people are no better than young earth creationists.
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 12:29 AM
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Any women that exchanges sex for resources is an escort in denial...which is to say pretty much all of them.
/r/MGTOW17/01/18 06:21 AM
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Have women ever heard of 'free association'? It's pretty much as fundamental as free speech in most Constitutions, including Canada's.
/r/MGTOW17/01/18 06:19 AM
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Back to basics: AWALT Girl saw an easy chance to get national attention; didn't care about the ethics (lul what's what?), didn't care about Aziz, didn't care about backlash etc. Women:Attention == Mosquito:Blood
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 09:38 PM
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It's what they did to Julian Assange.
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:07 PM
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So many people willing to let this one go because it was "just a bad date". But nearly all such accusations are just "bad dates", if not outright fabrications. Nearly every major public case of "rape culture" (Duke Lacrosse, Mattress Girl, Rolling Stones etc.) turned out to be false. Nearly every case of #metoo is either partially consenting, fully consenting, from decades ago, or has zero evidence with no police report. Studies show the rate of falsehood regarding rape, whether intentional or a…
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:01 PM
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Unfortunately they still think false accusations are rare. They only defend Aziz because he's obviously too timid to do anything like that. Replace him with a trucker or white college student in the exact same circumstances and they'd have pitchforks out.
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 03:59 PM
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...she was “happy to be part of this new trend, part of the women’s movement of recent history.” This is actually the oldest "trend" in the world.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 07:13 PM
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These should be posters.
/r/MGTOW12/01/18 04:11 PM
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Was Gone Girl a documentary?
/r/MGTOW12/01/18 04:09 PM
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MGTOW is not about asserting authority over women, it is about trying to live and let live in a society that is adamantly against men.
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 04:44 PM
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Most of the people that blame 'da joos' are some brand of conservative, tradcon or alt-right; in other words they are too blinded by gynocentrism to see what the real problem is, and would rather believe there's some sort of global conspiracy plotted by one of the smallest minority groups in the world, than that the problem resides with their "wonderful" and "innocent" women. It doesn't help that a lot of them are also incel, and want to push the "we need more white children" message in order to…
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 04:38 PM
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So shouldn't the financial burden of raising a child by default be solely on the mother?? Yes, especially with modern birth control, a woman can't give birth unless she 100% intended to. The power to choose must come with the burden of responsibility. Unfortunately, women know responsibility like a fish knows flight, and the government is more than happy to enforce the growth of their cattle tax population by forcing men to pay for it.
/r/MGTOW10/01/18 09:42 PM
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You'd have to be a fetus to be emotionally immature compared to a woman.
/r/MGTOW10/01/18 09:13 PM
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You know the brainwashing is strong when >1% of men are still getting married.
/r/MGTOW10/01/18 08:50 PM
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All women are like that.
/r/MGTOW09/01/18 08:48 PM
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I agree, but furthermore I would like to add that the "continuation" of a species is meaningless in and of itself. Nature only cares about information propagation, not the quality of the lives of those propagating it. Hypothetically, would it be worth it to continue the human species if the vast majority of every generation just deeply suffered? Gynocentrism at every point in our history prioritized women at the expense of men. While this probably did help our species propagation, it did no favo…
/r/MGTOW09/01/18 01:10 AM
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So where's the #metoo about this? This is far more systemic, egregious, and real than sexual assault. Oh wait it's men that suffer. Who gives a fuck, amirite?
/r/MGTOW08/01/18 08:51 PM
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Local or global maxima, that's the question. This could be a downswing followed by an even larger upswing. Based on gynocentrism all throughout human history, I'd guess this is just a minor pullback before the world finds another crazier way to worship women.
/r/MGTOW08/01/18 08:12 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about your story. Unfortunately you've had to deal with that firsthand. To understand MGTOW "in a nutshell", Reading: The Manipulated Man The Predatory Female Anatomy of Female Power Youtube: Spetznaz HuMan Colttaine Karen Straughan The basic premises of the philosophy are that: Men contribute vastly to society, yet are punished and neglected. This is unjust. Women's basic biological and psychological profile is completely toxic (All Women Are Like That; AWALT). Furthermore, th…
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 01:29 AM
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Women don't wear skirts all the time. Men pretty much never wear skirts. The regular symbol is more universally applicable. What's next, a wheelchair light?
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 11:21 PM
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Atheists aren't allowed to talk about religion? Doctors aren't allowed to talk about disease? Bodybuilders aren't allowed to talk about fat? You don't have a reasonable leg to stand on and you just try to insult others for protecting themselves and discussing reality. That's what's resentful. Predictably, you resort to calling others "sexist" and "angry" to victimize yourself since you have no real points and just rely on men's sympathy. Here's a clue: we don't hate women, we just understand the…
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 11:10 PM
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I'd argue even as young as 5 is where the cutoff is.
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 02:39 PM
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Many of the greatest artists in history were born, lived, and died dirt poor. Many geniuses were mentally ill. Many scientists socially or religiously persecuted. Many of the world champions of sport grew up in poverty and neglect. Not really much "chance" there. Meanwhile women of all socioeconomic status, all over the world, all throughout history, failed to even remotely approach men's accomplishments. Not even today when they are more privileged and encouraged than ever, with gender quotas c…
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 02:21 PM
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And what mangina judge would rule against her?
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 07:25 AM
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Yeah, everyone knows scientists are the best at understanding women and succeeding financially /s I have a graduate level science education. While not practicing science at the moment, I know very well how to read and organize research. That's not the main issue here. MGTOW is not based on any particular discipline, it's more fundamental; one has to allow themselves to step out of their traditional/societal conditioning, which you've clearly yet to do.
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 06:59 AM
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Your entire view is built on false equivalence. Men play a much larger role in building society than women. If men suddenly disappeared, the world would fall back to the stone age within a week. The fact that women birth children is no more important than the fact that I took a shit earlier today. Both are necessary biological processes. Both are also insignificant contributors to humanity. In regards to parenthood, men are the main sources of wisdom and maturity. Women physiologically are optim…
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 01:06 AM
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Fathers partake in that work too. You act as if the father just drops off the kid with the mother and doesn't see them again till they're 18. And even if that work was isolated to the mother, the father's work is still much harder and more important. Fighting wars, mining resources, writing software, building cities, etc. is way more difficult and has way more of a positive benefit to society than aimless reproduction. You know what else gives birth? Literally every living creature on Earth. It …
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 09:36 PM
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They just argue that women don't get enough encouragement in school/society to pursue tech stuff. Then when that is proven utterly untrue (with gender quotas, affirmative action and various female empowerment programs in grade school), they blame internalized patriarchy (even through patriarchy is yet another gynocentric institution, that they were arguably more comfortable under).
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 09:30 PM
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And about 0.1% actually were.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 10:23 AM
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It's like if you ordered a burger at a restaurant, and now owe the restaurant a royalty for life, because the burger "supported" you. Never mind that you already paid for the burger and it had little to do with actually accomplishing your work.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 10:20 AM
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Uncle Sam's just as bad if not worse than women at stealing your money. It's like you owe alimony from birth.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 10:18 AM
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"The law says I get half your current and future wealth just for existing" I can't even imagine what it feels like to think that way. Women live on a separate tier of existence.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 10:17 AM
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It looks like only Mars is safe at this point.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 10:13 AM
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I'd be very happy if it were easier for women to be accepted at STEM positions than men, I'd have to put less effort, but it's not, they have to work just as hard The affirmative action ratio is at least 2:1, and even 3:1 in many places. Not to mention the 4:1 gap in scholarships. Businesses wouldn't hire underperforming women just for the sake of being "progressive" because it's not advantageous to them, why would they do that if they can hire a man to do a "better" job as you say? Because it's…
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 09:00 PM
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I'll never understand why women consider cooking/cleaning to be such a degrading or onerous task. I cook/clean for myself everyday; it takes less than 15 minutes, I do a good job, and there's zero nagging or bitchiness. It is NOT worth >50% of my wealth or my freedom.
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 07:38 AM
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Not rare, there are plenty of women in STEM fields and in STEM majors in universities, how do you explain that? It's called affirmative action. Women are hired/accepted into STEM positions at a much higher rate than men (the most common quote is triple), while generally underperforming. And education =/= aptitude. Girls are in fact better than boys in most conventional education programs. It's when you get into the field and experience novel/difficult problems that girls fall flat. Even a parrot…
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 06:46 AM
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The rare instance of a woman being good at rational activities is just that, rare, and furthermore probably explained by the extreme male brain hypothesis, in which they are born with a typically male brain rather than typically female. The typical female brain is paranoid schizophrenic; neurotic and baseless. Pointing out a rare exception to try to disprove the overwhelming rule indicates that you don't know how to rationally think, and makes me conclude that you are probably either a woman or …
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 11:56 PM
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Women have literally come for money 20 years after a divorce, for money earned after the divorce in a way that they were not related. And won.
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 08:22 PM
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Free markets? How do you prevent monopoly? Competition, innovation, and decentralized currency. Most people are awfully concerned about monopoly while they support government, the largest monopoly of them all. Total monopoly over use of force, utilities, law, and economic institutions. Zero competition and zero accountability. Private courts? So whoever pays less money is basically guilty? Whichever court gives out the fairest judgments will get the most support, the most customers, the most inv…
/r/MGTOW31/12/17 09:16 PM
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Free markets with polycentric law and private courts.
/r/MGTOW31/12/17 08:26 PM
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Observable reality? It's the reason why >99.9% of the inventors and philosophers in history are men. It's why most women are abjectly crazy. It's why they are bad at math, science, chess etc. The size and activity of various centers in the brain that pertain to these activities are different. I don't "hate" women, I just understand them.
/r/MGTOW31/12/17 08:09 PM
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Which kinda defeats the purpose of the ltr.
/r/MGTOW31/12/17 12:17 AM
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Humor is actually developed as a coping mechanism towards hardship; many of the top comedians either had a rough upbringing or had to work through many personal and professional struggles. On top of that you need a little bit of intuitive intelligence and creativity; wit. Women go through very few struggles in their life. Even the most stupid, evil, destructive women basically get free houses and living expenses taken care of either through a simp or a the state (or both). On top of that, few wo…
/r/MGTOW31/12/17 12:09 AM
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They didn't help the situation, but the fundamental problem is with democracy itself.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 10:30 PM
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Individual liberty. Open society. Free market. Polycentric law.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 09:28 PM
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Has nothing to do with women voting. Democracy as a system is merely the implementation of tyranny of the crowd. Ideological communism.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 09:16 PM
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Hence why democracy is a joke. A crackhead's vote is worth as much as a Nobel laureate's. Two crackheads get to enslave the Nobel laureate. It's communism for ideas, yet is held up as some sort of exemplar of Western Civilization.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 09:14 PM
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They are evil, not stupid Why not both? They have some sophisticated techniques but most of them seem to be purely instinctual; they aren't even aware of what they or the situation are, they merely act, and then are shocked if anyone points it out later.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 07:52 PM
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Wait till I publish my study on whether water is wet or not.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 08:33 AM
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Remember that unless we're talking about the 0.01% of women that are NAWALTs, any such viewpoint is simply emulation. Chameleonism. They heard it from a guy somewhere without really internalizing it and/or they're trying to hook a beta bucks in. Women are fundamentally incapable, on a biological level, of rational thought. Their hormones and brain structure literally make it impossible. Long enough exposure, or a sufficiently intense scenario will reveal this of almost every woman. They are howe…
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 08:11 AM
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You are an anthropologist and around when we were "on the Savannah." Impressive. There's something called evolutionary research. But based on your tone and viewpoints, you seem like a bible-thumping tradcon, so maybe it's not your cup of tea. Maybe you'll explain to me what fucking happened to all those civilized Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, and Ancient Chinese? If it was so great where are they today? Right. They are gone. All civilizations fall or change. Rome's demise had hardly an…
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 07:56 AM
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There was a post in the TRP reddit a while ago from a post-op tranny. Dude said that the hormones started fucking with his head and he started seeing the world differently pretty much as soon as he started with them. Imagine what the brain must be like of someone who's been drenched in those hormones for most of their life. Estrogen literally makes you retarded.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 03:43 AM
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75 fashion decisions So zero decisions of value or importance?
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 02:46 AM
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Interesting how? The mangina judge will let her go scot-free. Everytime. Heck, he'll probably even pay for the damages if this meth-head allows him to touch her hand.
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 02:38 AM
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The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Ancient Chinese and even the Babylonians were pretty civilized, especially relative to their time period. Modern societies even adopt many of their institutions. You seem to have some sort of infatuation with modern, Eurocentric marriage. It is not significantly better than any other system, and as we all can see has severe drawbacks as well. Mainly, it is harmful and not necessary. Two free individuals can love each other or not, without state or religious interve…
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 02:22 AM
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with neural net processors Does this mean they can learn to play chess too?
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 03:46 PM
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a unreasonable refusal to commit to a woman means the same thing...you don't really love her Are you not referring to marriage here? If not, then where is the disagreement? Humanity reproduced just fine while the Christian concept of monogamous life long marriage prevailed, yes. No; most ancient societies were non-Christian/non-Jewish, and all prehistoric societies weren't. Christian "I do, I do" marriage in a church ceremony, with a certificate from the state, is maybe 300 years old, with histo…
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 12:06 AM
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Live frugally. Men are minimalistic and self-sufficient by nature; a single man can get by quite healthily on just a few thousand per year. Every $1 you invest now will be $10 later. You can comfortably retire as early as 35 or 40 if you do it right. Might feel a bit weird to live barebones while earning a lot of money, but it will quickly become worthwhile. Don't buy physical property that won't quickly pay for itself. This means no house, and no to most cars unless you need it for work. Physic…
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 11:09 PM
5

The state is just a mafia.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 11:04 PM
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Some demographic calculations. I did a brief analysis of this a while ago, and have since refined it. The NAWALT category is approximately 1/1,000 to 1/5,000 women. The jump to 1/100K is assuming somewhere between 95-99% of NAWALTs are already in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 10:52 PM
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My back-of-the-envelope math puts it at around 1/1,000 to 1/5,000. But considering most of them are probably already in a relationship, it could be as little as 1/100,000 or even rarer.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 10:43 PM
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Agreed, even if NAWALTs do exist, the cost/benefit is waaay below threshold to attempt to find them or accommodate them.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 10:40 PM
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Except state-backed marriage is a modern institution, and humanity reproduced just fine for hundreds of thousands of years before it. Also, love doesn't necessarily involve reproduction.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 10:08 PM
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NAWALTs do exist - they occur at the rate of somewhere between 1/1,000 to 1/100,000. If you do actually happen upon one, it might actually be bad to toss such good fortune away. However, marriage is the ultimate litmus test. If a woman claims she loves you, but won't continue to unless you marry her, then she doesn't love you. Love has nothing to do with a binding contract with the government, nor some expensive ceremony. A woman who tries to induce you into marriage is merely luring you into th…
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 08:48 PM
7

Women are mentally ill by default, and then some have a conventional mental illness on top of that. It becomes like a super mental illness. Of course, society neither recognizes or punishes this because apparently even a rotting womb inside of a psychopath is worth more than the rest of humanity.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 08:13 PM
9

I hope lawyers develop a whole industry going after these false accusations. If false accusations aren't getting criminal punishments, then there should be hefty financial ones. Maybe universities won't be so quick to side with some attention-seeking psychopath if it's going to cost them millions each time.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 05:01 PM
5

The massive overpopulation doesn't help.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:57 PM
6

Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society - Esther Vilar, "The Manipulated Man" It's actually worse now, you don't even need to be beautiful. Gynocentrism is infinite.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:55 PM
6

This is how much you can date up if you're a woman.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:49 PM
14

Fake, most women have never even heard of aerospace engineering.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 10:46 PM
3

Cultural marxism False rape and divorce rape culture Generation-long and generation-wide recession Overpopulation Many alternatives to sex/relationships Hmm...can't think of a reason why. Must just be those silly millennials.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 02:17 PM
3

Gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 01:52 PM
5

Divorce rape is a human rights atrocity.
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 01:51 PM
2

This story is all too common, unfortunately. The main "mistake" here is treating a woman like a man. They have no morals, and very little logic. You expected honesty and respect from your work with her, what you got instead was reckless, irrational hate. Besides superficially, women have almost no connection to humanity. It would be more accurate and helpful to treat them as rabid hyenas. You should probably find some way out/around the situation, because a false allegation is probably next on t…
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 05:45 PM
4

For a second I thought this was the same case as the one where police tampered with the case to get the falsely accused imprisoned, but here it turns out to be another case within a few short days. How many of these go unreported/unredempted? Police departments are actively colluding with false accusers now? And as usual, the false accuser who sent 40,000 messages about how she wanted violent, casual sex from the defendant, gets off scot-free. Not even a name or a picture. Police who tampered wi…
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:13 PM
4

Security/PenTest=least women What about all the music majors?
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 05:00 PM
3

It may also be a case of a woman being a hypergamous monkey-branching psycopath
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 04:53 PM
143

80 something So zero pair bonding and 99.9% chance of divorce and she's surprised by his reaction?
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 04:22 PM
7

In this case it's even worse than that. She married him while he was morbidly obese with health problems, anticipating that he would die soon and she inherits everything (he's probably got at least a couple mil, plus a thriving business). She only divorces him after he got healthier. Still walks away with half, but she was aiming for all. Creepy.
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:48 AM
1

I mean, the system says it's 3%. Old research says it's 60%. New research plus observable reality says it's 90%+
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:42 AM
15

Turn that 6 upside down.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 08:09 PM
1

The discrete reason for this is because partner count erodes women's pair bonding. This is proven in both biology and sociology. Chance of a successful marriage goes down 20% for each partner your wife has had. It's not discriminatory or arbitrary, it's rationality.
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 06:04 PM
7

Don't Christians believe that suicide sends you to hell?
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 01:39 PM
0

Also consider that the world is about 4000% overpopulated. More people isn't going to help.
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 03:54 PM
9

To be fair, this show turned to shit like 6 seasons ago.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 10:01 PM
3

Considering people used to starve here not too long ago, where did these lazy slobs come from? Their DNA.
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 09:36 PM
2

Isn't that already a thing?
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 07:30 PM
10

Go to /r/HumansBeingBros Note how 90%+ of the content is that of men. When's the last time you saw a woman saving someone's life?
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 07:25 PM
24

Good summary.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 03:14 PM
21

Roosh is smart enough to go MGTOW but the beta "alpha" bux are too good.
/r/MGTOW09/12/17 10:12 AM
9

Personally I prefer /r/gonwild
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 01:11 PM
5

It's a pretty dumb point. If you're going "away" from something, it's reasonable to explore why. Health-minded people talk about trans-fats, video game reviewers talk about bad games, doctors talk about disease etc.
/r/MGTOW08/12/17 12:20 AM
2

Lincoln was a Republican and he took away state rights. Both parties are only there to trick stupid people and fuck everyone over.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 02:45 PM
3

I like the "business" analogy. Marriage is a $400 defective HDMI cord that can burn down your house. Only a fool would buy it.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 10:36 AM
222

Trump groped me during the Vietnam War, while I was trying to ride a dinosaur on the Great Wall of China. #metoo
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 08:26 AM
33

Skyler in Breaking Bad.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 08:13 PM
17

Predators like to isolate their prey.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 07:38 PM
11

There are many sources; personal surveys, hospital records, police records etc. Generally the lowest you'll see is 40%, with the highest being 100%. Hospitals and police departments have a huge backlog of samples for rape cases that they never get to, because they know the vast majority of it is fabricated. If it's so easy to lie about rape, it's even easier to lie about sexual assault. There's also observable reality, with legions of women falsely accusing men, then later recanting while gettin…
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:25 PM
2

This is actually fairly true. Not the "hegemonic" part, or the implication that it's negative, but eating more meat does allow more strength and intelligence. Humans couldn't have evolved their large brains without a high-meat diet. There's hardly enough nutrients in a vegetarian/vegan diet for your brain and muscles, and those that are there are 10x harder to metabolize. That's why they're all limp and dumb as fuck. Or women.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 03:35 PM
6

Like taxation. Now you know why women and government are best buddies.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 03:22 PM
18

only 3% of sexual assault claims are fake This number, like most feminist stats is completely out of whack. The real rate is something like 90%.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 03:04 PM
2

Privacy is a bottleneck issue though. Currency can't really be free if there's a ledger for the authorities to identify and track you. People have been tracked back to their physical address using only their transactions on the blockchain. Lack of privacy means no free market Lack of privacy means theft through taxation Lack of privacy means, well, no privacy I think you can always add scaling infrastructure; good privacy is much more difficult and is currently undervalued in the market.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 10:16 AM
2

Yeah transacting.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 08:24 AM
0

Monero seems the most promising to me atm. Bitcoin is illiquid and Lightning is most likely a honeypot. Bitcoin Cash is okay, but Monero just does everything better. It's also not really "discovered" yet.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 08:15 AM
8

If she's really that into you, you could have had all that without marriage. As of now, you're a million dollar piggy bank that she can smash at any time. Ask her if she would be the same today if she wasn't married. Or don't, because you won't like the answer.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 04:30 AM
14

Charged; not sentenced. Let me know when a false accuser gets 25 to life.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 03:24 AM
119

Girls complain about being treated as sex objects, when that's usually all they have to offer. Well, I treat apples like apple objects, cars like car objects, and calendars like calendar objects. It's merely being rational and consistent.
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 09:39 PM
10

FWIW, Germany and many other European countries have legalized prostitution but that factor alone hardly puts a dent in the marriage rate. Men genuinely seek more out of a relationship than just sex. But they mistakenly believe it can be found in marriage or any other relationship with a woman.
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 02:36 PM
4

Thanks for the link. Who the fuck knows what people are thinking these days.
/r/MGTOW03/12/17 02:14 AM
54

Sadly, this is true.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 11:45 PM
3

Children do not belong on dates. Neither do single moms.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 11:44 PM
10

Use sex to boost career - Win Accuse/falsely accuse men later - Double win There's not a single case where a man forcefully grabbed them and forced them to have sex, they all giddily agreed. Just another case of women wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 02:31 PM
10

This is like going to McDonald's to tell them that hamburgers exist. Also, welcome.
/r/MGTOW02/12/17 07:08 AM
3

I believe it was Esther Vilar that said a woman could behave and be dumb as a chimpanzee, and yet still thrive in society if she is attractive. Even the not so attractive ones can afford this these days. There's zero pressure for women to have any qualities. Those that do are typically just in their chameleon mode.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 11:24 PM
7

Cohabiting in a lot of places is as legally bad as marriage. And why would anyone want to live with some crazy banshee anyway? Keep relationships simple and clear, or go monk.
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 09:31 PM
22

What's your plan for living til the year 100,000 AD?
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 08:04 PM
6

Makeup isn't deceptive at all /s
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 08:01 PM
7

It happens commonly in the academic world too. Think of how much industry and science is being destroyed by this narcissistic psychopathy.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 04:10 AM
10

Never interact with a woman in the workplace without a recording device present, or you will be the next victim. I don't know if Matt Lauer is innocent, but a few things to consider here: You should be innocent until proven guilty through due process 90% of sexual misconduct allegations are false; the number is even higher for celebrities If the genders were swapped, the allegation would just be laughed at and ignored, if not punished
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 10:04 PM
3

To find the probability of a non-deterministic event you likely have to take a sample. In this case you would survey people that have been on the street, the number of times they have been on the street, and then the number of those instances in which a dinosaur was observed. The relationship would look like: (total number of times dinosaurs observed on the street) / (total number of times the street(s) in question has been interacted with) Then based on the size of the sample you took, you can …
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 10:24 AM
3

If you lead a successful red pilled life, you should have no problem eating lots of food and having options, and in turn becoming obese. Eating is normal - we men are hardwired to eat as much as possible. Eating is what we are wired to do. Denying yourself of that is going against your nature. Obesity is great - especially eating your favorite food. Why would you voluntarily want to walk away from that?
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 04:54 PM
4

The wage gap does exist. After considering expenses, taxation, social programs, and work done, men earn significantly less than women in the same job.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 03:53 PM
4

She poisoned my dogs So she's in jail now right? /s
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 12:39 PM
3

She likes rough sex, and also gets to hang a potential false allegation over your head. It's win-win. Except for you of course. You get to go to jail 20 years later if she's feeling bored.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 06:43 AM
6

How do you even get that fat? She must be stuffing down 4 Costco chickens a day.
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 05:47 PM
14

Besides marriage, you fucked up by capitulating. I hate to give "hold frame" advice but...you needed to hold frame. Your wife doesn't actually give a shit that you watched porn, she's probably doing much worse behind your back. She does give a shit how you respond to her nagging you about it (aka shit-test). Doing the dishes and the laundry is a major fail. She wanted to hear you tell her "shut the fuck up bitch, I'll do whatever I want. Suck my dick if you don't want me watching porn." Somethin…
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 03:01 AM
2

She's like 30.
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 12:02 AM
8

Suicide is most often the result of depression or psychosis. Family court is neither of those things; it's putting a gun up to a guy's head and constantly threatening to pull the trigger. At some point, the guy's just going to pull it himself. Murder is a correct characterization, but justice is too much to hope for.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 11:30 PM
4

Solipsism, the...93rd aspect of AWALT? That said, I think the issue is a bit more complicated than that. I don't remember all or even most of my partners either. Sheer quantity might have something to do with it; we know women nowadays wrack up dozens if not hundreds of partners in just a few short years, most of them one-night stand type deals.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 11:24 PM
3

In the land of lies, the truth is treason.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 11:18 PM
2

I used to whore. I still do, but I used to, too.
/r/MGTOW25/11/17 11:05 PM
2

RIP
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 10:05 PM
3

Yes and no; you could make major profits or the whole investment could go bust, with not much fundamental information to go on. In other words, it's a speculation.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 08:24 PM
9

In theory, but the crypto landscape is still far from established. At this point it's even less solid than gold.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 07:25 PM
15

They put down the wrong bitch.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 06:40 PM
2

What a convenient definition.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 03:38 PM
46

This man’s famous on Twitch (a popular streaming site) for his improv piano performances and his great personality. He’s done thousands of great streams. For some reason, he invited his wife to join his streams, and she manages to foul up the most wholesome stream on Twitch with her crazy rant. While she’s not erupting with narcissism, she generally just sits around doing nothing. It is a very potent, classic juxtaposition. The man is talented, humble, and filled with love. The woman is vapid, a…
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 03:09 PM
3

What exactly did the woman do for the success of the bar or the community? Fluffed some pillows? Where do I sign up to this pillow fluffing gig where I get paid in prime real estate?
/r/MGTOW18/11/17 03:17 AM
5

So men, do grow up and don’t cancel the office party...Be warm, respectful, smart, funny and civil I will as soon as you are of any of those things, and the laws change.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:12 PM
5

Marriages where the woman earns significantly more than the man are few and tend to not last long. What you're saying (if true) is clearly the exception.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 03:09 PM
2

To avoid a women is to go against your natural instincts. My natural instinct is to be free. Also, saying 'natural instinct' doesn't really mean much, most of us can use more of our brains than just the limbic system. Your natural instinct is also to eat as much as you can, so should you pursue being obese?
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:57 PM
16

If you ask a woman out you're a rapist. If you sleep with a woman you're a rapist. If a woman uses you for financial/career gain, you're a rapist. If you marry a woman, you're a rapist that deserves to have everything taken away from you, including your children, house, and future earnings. If you DON'T ask a woman out, sleep with them, or marry them, you're a misogynist that needs to grow up and man up.
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 02:52 PM
7

Women DO NOT love you...Women are OPPORTUNISTS with the 'end-goal' being her absolute gratification, nothing more and nothing less. To add to this, I'm growing increasingly certain that women don't even love their own children. Look at the number of families they destroy, how they utilize child support/spermjacking for self-benefit, and the number of children that they sexually/psychologically abuse while feigning innocence. Even children, their own children, are a means to an end for them. Pure…
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 12:47 AM
7

Because gynocentric society's default view of men is that of packmules and tax slaves. Even non-participation is an affront.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 11:33 PM
1

Isn't that a right-wing pro-nazi website? I'm not interested in tradcon bullshit either.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 11:32 PM
50

The problem is not feminism, it's female nature and gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 11:30 PM
38

They may seem different, but the underlying nature is the same. It's AWALT, not A(Western)WALT. It extends back through history as well; most men are too myopic female nature, relegating it to western feminism of the past 50 years. It's been like that always, everywhere.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 08:01 PM
2

Slate was actually reasonably good until like 2009, when it got invaded by you-know-what. Most of the good writers left for Vice, then that later fell as well. Dunno where to find good mainstream journalism anymore, if it still exists.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:30 PM
130

For the men that think it's different with any other country/ethnicity.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:28 PM
4

If a woman ever asks you for any sort of unbalanced financial action, disappear - fast. Congrats, you just escaped a predator.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:26 PM
1

Yes and no. You might not get as much of a concentrated experience, and you probably have no ready access to lab work.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 10:22 AM
8

Him being right means he was right.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 07:11 AM
13

She should be sentenced to 2x the sentence a rapist would've got, one for each of her false accusations. But justice? In this world? LOL
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 05:07 AM
11

Most of the smart, inventive, philosophers and geniuses throughout history didn't marry. Einstein is an exception rather than a rule. If we're talking about legacy, your legacy of ideas is far more important and influential than you genetic legacy, which gets watered down in a couple generations anyway. Also, most smart men can see women for what they are, and therefore want nothing to do with them. Marriage doesn't offer shit to men. Early feminists complained about cleaning the house, cooking …
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 04:13 AM
5

Marriage: Risk everything to gain nothing.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 01:40 AM
9

a) Incels assume the world owes them anything. It doesn't. Think being ugly sucks? Try to be a starving kid in Africa. b) Despite all their red pill knowledge, they still place women on a pedestal, which is a major fallacy. MGTOW looks at biology, society, history and economics, and realizes that there's nothing to even pedestalize. Men build civilization and are superior to women in nearly every way, and childbirth is verging on obsolete. Pedestalization of women is completely nonsensical, you …
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 11:36 PM
23

Capes get stuck in turbines and shit.
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:53 PM
6

Besides corrosive chemical damage, it's a result of biological selection over time. If makeup is constantly boosting women's looks by 2 or 3 points (factoring in that it also damages their baseline looks), then they are going to be naturally uglier without them. For example if an average '5' woman is actually a 2 without makeup, then the true average of women is actually a 2. That means even an 8 doesn't really look better than average '5' without makeup, and 9's and 10's don't even really exist…
/r/MGTOW15/11/17 09:49 PM
8

That was in 1994. The cases of false rape has increased many-fold since then. A more recent study in Australia from 2009 determined that the percentage of women who reported to a hospital claiming they were date raped, who actually were, was...0%. Every single case was due to voluntary excessive drinking. The real current rate of false accusation is probably around 80-90%. Which is why you shouldn't believe claims of sexual misconduct without hard evidence; most women do it to get attention or o…
/r/MGTOW12/11/17 04:17 PM
7

Single motherhood has more negative social impact than many crimes. It's an abuse of the child, and creates future criminals.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 08:09 PM
4

Doctors are smarter than average but not that smart. 115-120 is probably accurate, 120+ flattering.
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 06:52 PM
1

Ethically, no. A divorced man (or a spermjacked man) shouldn't have to pay for a child any more than a neighbor or judge would have to pay for it. The woman decided to take the child away from him, (in the case of spermjacking, the decision was all her own) so she should bear the full responsibility of it. Power = responsibility. Women want to have their cake and eat it too in regards to their social responsibilities and entitlements, which is completely unsustainable and irrational. As a human …
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 04:29 PM
34

What's commonly misconstrued as 'hate' here is merely understanding, to a practically scientific level, of gender dynamics. MGTOW theory incorporates things from many areas, including philosophy, biology, psychology, anthropology, history, statistics etc. The comments on women here are no more hateful than calling a skunk smelly or a snake venomous, or saying that GDP is down x%. Our main priorities are freedom and inner peace; no attacks are condoned against anyone.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 02:18 PM
5

The sad part is, this doesn't cover most of the relevant statistics, and doesn't even touch on female nature at all. It's bad enough as is, but there's like 200 more nails in the coffin.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 02:13 PM
6

MGTOW knowledge at your age is worth more than your weight in gold.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 04:01 AM
2

You assume that they can think rationally.
/r/MGTOW08/11/17 10:35 PM
1

Who would win? Marriage statistics from multiple independent sources+legal reality+biology, or a single anecdote?
/r/MGTOW06/11/17 03:22 PM
7

Colttaine, Spetznaz and Human form a great philosophical foundation for MGTOW - but are often overlooked. What a shame.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 10:51 PM
1

Perfectly okay with it. Marriage - we all know why. It's a coercive bondage contract with the government. If your partner requests marriage, she's either retarded, psychopathic or both. Children - the Earth is massively overpopulated; geopolitical tensions are high, and resource sustainability is low. On an individual level they are a massive time and money sink. Genetic legacy doesn't matter, and national/cultural identity especially doesn't matter. Not to mention, childrearing has been weaponi…
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 09:44 PM
4

Slavery was never outlawed, just rebranded.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 09:34 PM
1

This point is understated. Most think that MGTOW (and RP in general) is a response to feminism, but men have gone through far worse and not woken up. It's the communication and archive power of the internet that's made it possible. Wonder when they are going to ban it.
/r/MGTOW30/10/17 05:21 AM
1

She also said Tyson was the reason she didn’t further pursue her dream of reaching the stars and becoming a full-fledged astrophysicist Yeah it's definitely her imagined rape, and not because she's about 80 IQ points too low.
/r/MGTOW29/10/17 07:30 AM
1

On the internet probably, but if I meet someone like a scientist or competitive gamer that says their IQ is above 140 I'm not going to immediately doubt them.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 04:09 PM
1

Low, obviously, but not impossible. You could expect to meet a handful in your lifetime, which is why I don't immediately discount anyone that claims they're that smart, especially if there is corroborating evidence.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 03:55 PM
1

Less than 1% of people have an IQ above 140, and it grows even exponentially sparser the higher you go. It's not that there's no one with IQs over 140, it's that there's not enough data to accurately quantify it. Someone could legitimately have an IQ over 140, especially if they scored near 140 on a modern test, or scored very highly on a legacy test.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 03:47 PM
1

Kinda depends, many of the older IQ tests scaled into the 180's-200's.
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 11:12 AM
2

If you're currently working a minimum wage job and in college, don't worry too much about saving and investing. It's more important for you to find a good stable income at the moment (earning and saving $10k+ a year for example will do a lot more than earning 5% on $1000 savings). Only start worrying about saving after 25-30; some people argue to do it even later, like 40+ so you can enjoy your youth. The earlier you start to save+invest while having a decent income, the more you'll have later, …
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 08:42 AM
1

A degree in a given field was once valuable and could open doors all by itself; today the job market is oversaturated and it's not quite the case anymore. A degree could still help, just not with its status alone. An experienced programmer without a degree is easily better than an inexperienced programmer with. At least that's for Bachelor's degrees. Master's degrees still open doors, and you learn a lot in the short amount of time to complete one. Many Master's degree holders enjoy PhD level em…
/r/MGTOW28/10/17 01:00 AM
13

Absolutely true, but IQ is one of the single strongest determinants. It doesn't paint the whole picture, but it paints a lot for a single stroke, hence its utility as a quick summary of capability.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 06:49 PM
26

I think a last time a thread about it was made, the average was around 130 or so. Most of us are engineers, programmers, entrepreneurs etc.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 05:27 PM
19

Taxation is theft.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 04:52 PM
16

May I ask what line of work you're in?
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 11:28 AM
5

How do you even end up poor as a woman? You make more than men while doing less at a conventional job, and also have the options to divorce rape someone, work as an escort/porn actor making $100+ an hour, or just leech off some man. A woman is literally dumber than a crackhead if she can manage to screw up her life.
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 08:27 AM
4

Aren't they increasing actual dress sizes while keeping the same numbers?
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 02:42 PM
4

Women are not especially adept at raising kids either. Kids suffer tremendously in single mother households, doing much worse than any other household type - married heterosexual, single father, gay, foster etc. Women's "special" role is basically childbirth and early infancy (breastfeeding). Anything beyond that, men are better. Women themselves don't mentally mature any further than a teenager, so are ill-equipped to raise a child to adulthood with the adequate amount of wisdom, compassion, an…
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 01:59 PM
14

Childbirth is merely a biological necessity, akin to shitting. It doesn't take any training to do, pretty much any women can do it, it's relatively safe...most of all it's not a special human behavior - everything from squirrels to ostriches give birth. Men's contributions; science, technology, art, philosophy, construction, economics...are what actually elevate humanity from wild animals. It's much more important and much more difficult, yet men get the short end of the stick of appreciation in…
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 05:28 AM
1

Briffault's Law is a law of nature.
/r/MGTOW26/10/17 03:49 AM
5

Memes are nice, but I often wish for more philosophical content. MGTOW has fertile grounds for discussion about everything from society, to history, to biology to technology, and I don't see enough of it around here.
/r/MGTOW25/10/17 06:25 AM
10

They are most certainly the bigger threat. A woman, despite all her issues, is slower, weaker, less determined, and less sharp than me; not much to fear. It's her army of manipulated zombie men that I worry about.
/r/MGTOW21/10/17 09:08 AM
23

That really sucks dude, I'm sorry that happened.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 12:47 AM
25

Forgot the next panel where he hangs himself.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 12:31 AM
7

Uh no, that's a pretty myopic way to look at things. Art is universal, you can make it to whatever taste or style that you want.
/r/MGTOW19/10/17 12:11 AM
3

Even if you meet the 1/1,000 non-crazy, non-basic woman, you still have to deal with the overwhelmingly biased legal and societal institutions against you. Even for just casual dating, and even if you are rich, confident and handsome, one false allegation and it's over. You will lose your home, your reputation, your money and also your dogs while she gets off scot-free, all on her word alone. Marriage and co-habitation are worse still for men. I don't approach women because it's an utter waste o…
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 01:22 AM
6

If we do a true work:compensation ratio (including stuff like taxation and social assistance), women make about 300% more than men for the same work. Men work harder, longer, dirtier, riskier hours than women, while earning the same/less amount per hour, and then give most of it away in taxes while receiving very little back, while women conversely pay little in taxes and receive the bulk of the benefits. Even so, men usually turn out more financially sound long term because we invest our money …
/r/MGTOW16/10/17 05:35 AM
-4

Please don't use MD as an abbreviation for something else while talking about doctors, it's confusing.
/r/MGTOW13/10/17 02:44 PM
73

Female medical student stabs boyfriend with a knife --> Let free Male junior doctor touches breasts during consensual sex --> Guilty of sexual assault + 5 years on sex offender registry. Career ruined. My morning shits can practice law better than these mangina judges.
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 03:18 PM
1

Yes. But, if humanity is to survive, there's no choice about this. Men are disposable, and women aren't, entirely due to the reproductive dynamic. Walking away does not suddenly make you in-disposable... if anything, it reaffirms your disposability. We're at about 4000% over the shock-proof carrying capacity of the Earth, and are set to run out of petroleum before the next century. Most mature economies are in the dumps due to their non-scalability with such population growth. I'd say if you are…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 07:47 PM
1

Gynocentrism can be a pathway to male authority. This is a common point made by tradcons, not MGTOW. Male authority doesn't solve anything.. Chasing male authority over women is a false utopia that doesn't improve the state of man, it's merely another form of male servitude. Today's feminism is no worse than female privilege in ancient times. Look up Potiphar's wife, the matriarchies of Rome or Victorian age romance for instance. Women have always been able to do whatever they want with little c…
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 01:33 PM
1

The problem with articles such as this is that it equates feminism/decadence with gynocentrism. Gynocentrism is a tree of which feminism is only a branch; it's been around since the dawn of civilization and possibly before. I'd say it's sustaining itself just fine. Even hardline patriarchy will not stop the disposition from men risking and working while women enjoy the fruits of men's labor.
/r/MGTOW10/10/17 07:45 AM
1

Any ounce of AWALT is not worth an ounce of benefit you get from a woman. And there's way more ounces of AWALT.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 07:48 PM
1

'Don't get mad, get even' is a phrase I like to hearken back to when it comes to these sorts of farces. So women get overpromoted to executive roles. Great. Start your own company and outcompete them. Change your legal gender and sue for discrimination. Start making products that these engorged "professional" women will splurge on. Or just walk away from the whole thing and smell the roses while their companies burn down. Life finds a way.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 07:44 PM
19

He's just discovered nihilism.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 06:48 PM
2

I think you're creating false enemies for yourself.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 08:58 AM
5

Knowledge is also wealth.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 07:52 AM
1

Believe it or not, men can feel differently than horny teenagers. And speaking from experience, many MGTOW have actually had too much sex; it's grown boring. MGTOW can have as much sex as they want, whether that's through conventional dating, pump and dump, or escorts. They are not celibate by any definition, and those that are generally choose to be. In the area of sex, the main way we differ from TRP is that we don't base our lives around it. RooshV did an article a long time ago where he calc…
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 07:39 AM
6

Woosh.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 12:20 AM
4

I believe it was Albert Einstein.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 11:58 PM
2

Because unfortunately, a lot of MGTOWs are just tradcons in hiding.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 08:13 PM
1

So do I.
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 05:48 AM
3

It's sort of like how much you are putting it into practice, or acting rationally from the information. If you get a PhD in physics, you have a high level of knowledge about physics. However if you maintain that the Earth is flat and that gravity doesn't exist, your acceptance of physics would be low/nil. Regarding antifeminists, as noted in the chart they do have some RP knowledge. However, they deploy this knowledge to profit off of vulnerable men rather than actually internalizing it themselv…
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 12:45 AM
6

Good points!
/r/MGTOW05/10/17 12:20 AM
5

To be fair, I don't know that much about incel, but I do know they often refer to themselves as black pillers, and black pill represents some sort of bleak vision of the future. It's a pretty understandable view, considering their...depression.
/r/MGTOW04/10/17 11:42 PM
2

I think these miniature houses are pretty cool, but I'm not convinced the septic system is robust enough or easily maintained.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 11:19 PM
17

Research shows that people lose intelligence as they age, and that they are far more susceptible to cognitive conditions like dementia and Alzheimer's. It's often not diagnosed until years have passed. They may have more knowledge, but most of that knowledge is also obsolete. So why do we grant these old fogeys the ultimate authority of law again? Pretty sure I don't need the judgment calls of these idiots to live my life.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 03:15 PM
21

I'm probably on the extreme end, but makeup almost gives me an uncanny valley feel; it's practically AWALT emblazoned on their face. Makeup indicates that you are: vapid, narcissistic, deceptive, hypergamous, wasteful, lazy...it might sometimes look superficially good, but you know the person under it is a travesty.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 02:14 PM
3

Vapidness is a major theme of AWALT.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 02:00 PM
3

“Very contrary to the view that some of these men put out, it’s really hard to lose custody of your children,” said MacQuarrie, the community director of the Centre for Research & Education on Violence Against Women. 92% of custody goes to the mother and men are forced to pay child support, even if it's entirely the women's fault why the marriage ended. Men are arrested if his wife is abusing their child. Men playing with their children on the playground get falsely accused of being molesters an…
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 01:55 PM
2

It doesn't change with education level either. Which make the "smart, professional, educated" women who can't find a man all the more delusional.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 01:50 PM
3

That's what the 2nd Amendment is for. Protecting yourself against criminals, invaders, or an encroaching state.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 04:25 AM
4

If a woman doesn't love you without marriage, she didn't love you in the first place.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 04:07 AM
4

There is. The pro-divorce rape lobby.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 02:56 AM
2

I think the religious stuff is for humor, considering it's written by "Reverend" Shannon.
/r/MGTOW03/10/17 02:05 AM
2

Hundreds of thousands of dollars for an average/below-average woman to just sit around doing nothing. Women's lives are so easy. It's no wonder they have to invent drama and victimhood in an attempt to inject a little meaning into them.
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 05:28 PM
6

Child support is a human rights violation. Only the people directly responsible and wanting to care for the child should be obligated to provide for it. A man who has a child through unwanted pregnancy or divorce is no more responsible for supporting the child than the judge who hands down the order.
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 05:09 PM
6

This guy got "a few apartment buildings from family to own", and he's jerking off over $20?
/r/MGTOW28/09/17 08:59 PM
1

No, it's way too myopic. Gender dynamics has been going on since the dawn of time.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 09:55 AM
1

Look up Jian Ghomeshi. He took up this strategy and succeeded with it after being falsely accused of sexual assault. Unfortunately his career is still ruined and his accusers got off scot-free due to gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 09:08 AM
4

Isn't GLO hardcore TRP? Or did he finally wake up?
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:26 PM
2

As someone with an advanced education and top percentile scores on IQ tests (not trying to brag, just add context), I am interested in smart women; I don't want to babysit some retard in a LTR. The problem is, I can't find any. All the women with advanced degrees that I've met are no less vapid than the ones without. I think many women confuse what "high intellect" is. Education != intellect. I've met homeless men addicted to heroin that were more intellectual than women with doctorate level deg…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:11 PM
2

So I came up with an idea: if a woman already has 1 kid she can't feed, she gets free counseling, birth control, and welfare Why? The answer is to give her nothing. Subsidizing something only increases its abundance. If her child starves, then she should go to jail for criminal negligence, possibly murder. This system would result in less single mothers, less men enslaved to child support, less societal delinquency, less taxation and less overpopulation - it's pretty much good in every way. All …
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 10:33 PM
1

What did men ever have to fight for? Building all of culture and civilization using sticks and rocks while fighting off tigers, bears and sharks?
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 12:19 PM
6

I don't really like this saying. You're giving her your best years too. What else is she bringing to the table?
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 05:16 AM
4

Interesting idea.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 06:47 PM
6

TFM believes that gynocentrism ends with patriarchy. I'm saying patriarchy and all other societal structures throughout history are also gynocentrism. In patriarchy, men still do the vast majority of the work while women derive the benefits. What good is the right to vote, or being the head of the household when your fate is to die in a coal mine or on a battlefield?
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 06:42 PM
2

The "low" unemployment rate is completely misleading. It doesn't take into account either labor participation or part time employment. Labor participation keeps going down and part time employment keeps going up while wages have stagnated/declined. Meaning job number and quality has declined drastically over the past few decades, and people earn less than before. At this rate, soon less than 1/3 of adults will be working full-time jobs that can pay the bills, and the employment rate would still …
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 03:20 PM
2

Arguably, even the Men's Rights sub doesn't care about men. Their idea of helping men is begging massa to give them an extra piece of bread on Sundays. MGTOW advises men to leave the plantation, a real action to stop the cycle of abuse and exploitation.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 02:02 PM
3

It's one thing to be sick, but another thing to be sick and hurt other people. The vast majority of mental illness sufferers don't harm anyone, and she otherwise functions normally "in public". She's perfectly aware of what she's doing, and is just fine with it. It speaks more to her nature than any condition.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 01:05 AM
10

I've suspected Borderline Personality Disorder for a while, but neither she nor anyone around her would admit to such a thing or seek help. She's just a destructive tornado and society allows it because vagina.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 12:39 AM
10

Most importantly, you don't retain consciousness after death no matter how many kids you have. The Earth could be wiped out by an asteroid the day after you die, killing all your kids, and it would make no difference.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:38 PM
6

"You can either love women, or understand them" - Ninon de L'Enclos
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:28 PM
2

Damn, dodging bullets on two fronts.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 05:19 PM
15

It bears repeating, a single mother (who's not a widow) either: a) got knocked up and ditched by some random dude b) drove away a good man Rock bottom intelligence and morals.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 07:07 AM
2

16 month sentence. 16 years would be justice.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 05:01 AM
97

"WAAAAH, I'm not getting millions of dollars in free stuff for existing"
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 04:21 PM
9

Really if you want to be MGTOW, you don't need to understand anything else besides "prioritize and protect yourself", but those books, and videos from Spetznaz, huMAN and Coterie certainly establish a great philosophical foundation.
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 05:08 PM
2

something something power and who you can't criticize
/r/MGTOW16/09/17 08:27 AM
6

Women always fall back on the line that they give birth to men. But that's merely a biological necessity; so is shitting and pissing, and you don't see plumbers getting the privilege that women do. Women contribute very little to humanity, the thing that separates us from wild animals.
/r/MGTOW15/09/17 01:59 AM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6z9vth/he_doesnt_deserve_you/dmtygko/
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 12:57 PM
4

Each of us could read one of Hillary's deleted emails.
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 03:29 AM
21

RPW is basically just a bunch of women looking to rope in a tradcon to feed off of, lol. It's just gynocentrism in yet another form.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 02:48 PM
9

What line of work are you in, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 01:36 PM
3

That probably means there's at least a couple million "out in the wild", who either don't know they're MGTOW or don't visit this site.
/r/MGTOW11/09/17 03:18 AM
7

Really is it all about hating another human being - women in general? No, it's about rationalism and truth, and the truth is ugly. I don't 'hate' women any more than I hate nuclear waste, I just rationally avoid it. If that characterization sounds too harsh, then try to raise your awareness level. Or is it to promote men to be independent and help them identify a partner ( should they choose to ) who treats them as a peer? Independence is part of it, but not really finding a partner. Finding a q…
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 09:29 AM
8

I use you to replace Bill Burr after he lost his balls and got married to an ugly feminist. You even sound similar. :)
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 08:33 AM
29

The chances of meeting a decent quality woman on a date is less than 1%; most of the women that consider themselves "beautiful and amazing" are actually total trash-tier. And chances are I have to pay, so it's just not worth it. Not interested in random flings. Can have that any night of the week with any girl. I'd only be interested in dating to form an LTR, but we all know the costs and dangers of that. I have zero tolerance for AWALT which means most girls fail in the first 5 minutes.
/r/MGTOW10/09/17 08:21 AM
9

Kids should grow up in an environment where they are well educated, well taken care of, and can be introduced to adversity in a controlled manner. Most people are usually too stupid and too poor to raise them properly. So much pain and suffering for nothing, only propagating the problem. Honestly, having children when you are not a well-balanced individual with a good position in life should be tantamount to human rights abuse.
/r/MGTOW08/09/17 11:22 PM
9

I pretty much knew she was a false accuser when the story first broke out. Beyond the fact that the vast majority of college rape accusations are false anyway, there are NO actual rape victims that go parading around about it. Most are so traumatized that they have problems even talking to a therapist about it years down the line.
/r/MGTOW08/09/17 01:34 PM
3

One of the main reasons I'm MGTOW is that women are just utterly boring. I couldn't form a long-term relationship with them anymore than I could form a long-term relationship with gum on my shoe. Even the most educated, published, science-minded women that I've talked to are more vapid than the average guy on the street. Their thinking has no creativity or passion behind it, only social signalling.
/r/MGTOW07/09/17 10:42 AM
4

First of all, you don't really know what a woman's truly like until you marry her...>50% of marriages end in divorce (the vast majority initiated by women), and of the remaining, like 90% are unhappy workhorse-harpy arrangements. And these are the best women that the men could find, so do the math. An individual woman's behavior could be anything, but their underlying behavior set is all the same - AWALT has been biologically ingrained for hundreds of thousands of years. And one of the primary a…
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 02:01 PM
8

The show's still good, but feels less "pure" than the first season. Rick's less of an asshole, there's a lot more meaningless filler dialogue, and less subtlety. Rick's character is a supergenius with an IDGAF attitude; he does whatever he wants to whoever he wants. The only thing that can alter this attitude is apparently if his family is in extreme danger (like Morty falling into the time void), but even then it's inconsistent. He appears to care for Beth, but froze her for a year and also lef…
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 04:51 AM
3

Yeah, 1 is different from 0.
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 04:28 AM
6

Women never evolved to love, only to feign love. They arguably don't even love their own children, looking at the number of women willing to become single mothers, destroy their family for cash, kill/abuse their children etc.
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 12:39 AM
3

Society defines a man as someone who sacrifices his life for them without getting much in return. A pretty convenient definition if you ask me. My definition of a man is just someone who does whatever the fuck he wants without giving a shit what others think. You have a short life to live, then it's all over; you going to spend that life being cracked open like a lobster?
/r/MGTOW05/09/17 12:07 AM
1

How's your internet reception?
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 12:09 PM
106

"Up to 10 years", as in will get 2 months probation.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 12:06 PM
11

There's literally not a single girl I've met where I haven't been able to walk down the street and find an exact clone of her. Any guy that thinks he's found someone special, probably has little to no experience with women.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 10:24 AM
14

Gap should be larger tbh, there's way more "make-work" jobs for women than there are for men, and they get an easier pass anyway.
/r/MGTOW04/09/17 10:21 AM
18

Eh, kinda depends on the distribution. For instance you could have a bimodal distribution where everyone either has a really small dick or a really big dick, but nobody is "average".
/r/MGTOW03/09/17 11:41 AM
10

Continued: Live in Canada Women falsely accuse men of rape as a publicity stunt Not allowed to provide evidence in court to prove innocence of rape
/r/MGTOW03/09/17 12:05 AM
4

Don't even need that nowadays, just use a cryptocurrency.
/r/MGTOW01/09/17 10:43 AM
4

Most people think democracy is good because they mistakenly conflate it with the history and ideals of Western civilization. But it's a system that doesn't reward merit and doesn't value freedom. It doesn't reward rational, informed thinkers, it values cheap persuasion and tyranny by numbers. It doesn't allow people to live and let live in a free society, it forces everyone to kiss the iron fist while convincing them that they chose to do it. It's about as ideologically and ethically sound as co…
/r/MGTOW01/09/17 12:01 AM
3

Careful though, growing too emotionally detached with the world can lead to depression and even paranoia. Be rational about it.
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 11:52 PM
1

You're looking at it too myopically. Hillary being elected would have been bad - but why? Alone, she's merely a crazy old woman. It would have been bad because it would have given her access to monstrous entrenched power. Even if her policies sucked, and everyone hated her, she would still hold all that power and be able to make war, destroy the country, or worse, without giving a fuck. And Trump is not some godsend. Half his policies make no sense and the other half he's barely accomplished any…
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 11:30 PM
5

Wasn't it? I still don't understand how the Mountain didn't go through with it. Did they plan the bluff beforehand?
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 07:31 PM
3

Voting doesn't matter. Your vote has less than a lottery jackpot's chance of changing the outcome of the election, and the candidates you get to select from are usually trash anyway. Anarchy =/= chaos. There can still be laws, law enforcement, courts etc. just done in a decentralized way that maximizes freedom and minimizes cost. Power would follow supply and demand rather than be entrenched. The problem with every bad leader isn't that they're evil, or that they're a moron, the problem is that …
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 05:41 PM
1

retards
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 05:34 PM
7

Changing the right to vote wouldn't change anything. Mainly because voting doesn't do anything anyway; Corrupt Oligarch A is as bad as Corrupt Oligarch B. But also because, believe it or not, women vote similarly to men, or I should say, men vote similarly to women because of innate gynocentrism. Even if you removed the female vote from the electorate, the same parties and policies would get elected probably over 90% of the time. Nearly half of white men voted Obama, and white women mostly voted…
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 05:28 PM
1

It goes to show what men can and do do in society, but not necessarily what they should or need to do. If a man wants to go out into danger to help, that's great, and it's his prerogative. But let's not assume that the imaginary gold star from society will help him while he's getting divorce raped in court or robbed through taxes. Connotating certain tasks with heroism is just the flip side of shaming. It's how you get young men to sacrifice themselves for pointless wars. It's all just manipulat…
/r/MGTOW31/08/17 04:57 PM
42

In case you don't know (given your answer choices), MGTOW is not based principally on modern marriage laws, western women, or feminism. That stuff might get men's attention, but they are only the tip of the iceberg. The foundation is based on long-standing gynocentrism and biological female nature, which precede modern issues by millenia.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 04:20 PM
45

He developed a gold mining company in Papua New Guinea but lost an estimated $6 million in the 12 months after the October 1987 global financial crash. Soon after David’s wife left him Yup.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 03:56 PM
4

Women are biologically incapable of love, it has never benefited their survival. If their husband/children die, not only does society lend their support, but she can just get/make new ones fairly quickly. The only person she needs to love for survival is herself; narcissism. This is one of the most tragic parts of AWALT.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 10:47 AM
6

It's a pretty good arrangement for a while, but eventually you grow bored of it or don't find it very good value. It sickens me a bit that women can earn $200+ an hour performing a natural bodily function. Men have to work very hard for very many years, or put their lives at extreme risk for that kind of money. And like with anything, even great sex with beautiful women gets boring after a while. Now, most nights I just prefer a quiet dinner by myself at a nice restaurant, or gaming or whatever,…
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 01:42 AM
22

You are young... and will be young For about five or six years. That's generous for Russian women.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 06:51 PM
3

Almost as retarded as falsely accusing 15 men of a horrendous crime and ruining their lives?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/08/17 05:48 PM
5

Right, which is why marriage is far dumber than playing the lottery.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 05:39 PM
68

Should have been 10 years for each victim.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/08/17 01:37 PM
11

People know the odds to the lottery and still play. Gender and societal dynamics are far more obfuscated than that.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 01:33 PM
-9

Dude you sound socially autistic, probably 90% of the things you saw didn't have the meaning you thought it did. This is like TRP field report levels of cringe.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 01:04 PM
17

Best advice in the thread. I know at least a dozen men that got falsely accused of anything from sexual assault to verbal abuse, each instance only happening when they're alone with a woman at work. Of the cases that had video evidence, all the men were clearly exonerated (and the woman faced no punishment for false accusation of course). Women are extremely, extremely opportunistic. They will do whatever it takes to benefit themselves, even in the smallest way, regardless of the morality, costs…
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 01:00 PM
3

AWALT is 99% biological. Good luck OP.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:47 PM
2

The way that women value college, or just titles in general, is insane. I asked a woman the other day whether it's more worthwhile to be working a trade, making 60-80K/year after like 2 years of training, and potentially owning your own business, or spending 6 years in college to work as a barista. Without even blinking she said college, and couldn't even come up with a reason why. I have an advanced education myself and I certainly don't think college is the best/only way to go about a career. …
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:36 PM
7

They do marry down, except they divorce even sooner, and still get to take all the man's stuff because of the lunatic legal system.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:32 PM
9

"Highly educated, highly paid" women, aka women with a Master's in some make-work field like HR earning 60k a year. Meanwhile, men with two PhDs in STEM fields can't find a job due to the bad economy and gender quotas.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:29 PM
30

They didn't rape me. I don't think. Fixed the grammar.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 12:24 PM
2

Just another symptom of their bottomless insecurity. Spending thousands of dollars just to make themselves feel momentarily normal. Doesn't even matter if it works/looks fine. If it's "old", then it's a fine excuse to need costly renovations.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 11:29 PM
1

Search MGTOW through Google Trends and you got your answer. Canada has 1/10 the population btw.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 05:44 PM
1

http://imgur.com/a/xttJL
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 05:30 PM
1

I have to admit that I'm not that familiar with the community, but everything that I've seen so far has confirmed my assumptions. If an incel doesn't overvalue pussy, why are they incel? Why do they care? Just focus on something else or get a hooker and get it over with. It seems like the definition of incel requires some fixation on getting laid. MGTOW having sex isn't really any sort of contradiction. There's nothing in the philosophy that says anything about celibacy. There's nothing wrong wi…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 11:25 PM
3

Glad to inform.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 07:05 PM
14

The gender roles are unbalanced. Women can give birth; so can every other female mammal and most other female creatures of the animal kingdom for that matter. The act of giving birth in itself is not special or human. Developing civilization is far more important to humanity, and that also happens to be far more difficult, dangerous and is all left up to men. We invent the new things, we fight the wars, we build and maintain the cities and technologies. So what do women provide to a relationship…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 06:56 PM
32

Does MGTOW hate women? No, we just understand women. What can be misconstrued as hate is more like rational aversion. Society is hypocritical about what is acceptable from a man and what is acceptable from a woman, and does its best to sweep all of women's flaws under the carpet while expecting men to do all the work and to take all the blame. Men are born with nothing and will get nothing unless they work, risk or die. Women are born with value and receive comfortable living arrangements simply…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 06:15 PM
35

So that's why it's in the sidebar.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:35 PM
7

Sentenced to 13 months, walked out in 3. Still not enough time served. Correct sentence is the same as what an actual rapist would've gotten btw, so about 5-10 years. Also, it's horrifying to think this guy would've probably been convicted had he not been saved by his taxi's GPS.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 02:14 PM
6

"Even" the police. Reminder that the cops are not your friends. They have zero problems just blindly obeying the state and/or committing atrocities on people they are supposed to be protecting.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 02:09 PM
5

Incels aren't really MGTOW for the same reason PUAs aren't. They still vastly overvalue pussy, and let it control their lives and affect their self image. MGTOW realize that there's nothing to pedestalize, and in fact a lot to reject. Incels don't even have the benefit of PUA/TRP where they might eventually come around and realize the situation after enough exposure to relationships and women. Incels just sit in the dark and feel sorry for themselves.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 11:07 AM
6

The kid does - by the person(s) that intended to have him, and nobody else. If his mother can't provide for him then she's an utter failure as a parent and probably just a terrible human being, end of story. Nobody else is obligated to lend their support, and if he suffers under her negligence, then she is guilty of abuse or worse. Trying to remedy this situation in the way that we have (welfare and child support) is clearly both morally and economically unsound.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 12:23 AM
9

What will changing the laws do? The basic expectation is still that you work/risk/die while she sits comfortably at home. The reasoning for MGTOW extends far beyond modern politics or laws. When all the laws are fixed and reparations are made to the divorce raped/falsely accused/children of single mothers and awareness of female nature is widespread and governments cease to exist and women start taking bullets for me while I kick back and drink lemonade - then they might be worth a consideration…
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 05:06 PM
7

What meme is that? We are on track to run out of most natural resources in 100-200 years, and that's with most countries not even industrialized yet. And we are already seeing social and economic consequences.
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 03:30 PM
2

At the end it's about yield. Doesn't matter if that comes from dividends, or capital gains, or gambling. Investing for your future is the right way to go, but dividends are scraping the barrel in terms of yield. Unless you're already rich, you're not getting by on 3% yield a year (and it's not even as stable as most people think by the way).
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 11:02 AM
1

I'm all for the idea of crypto, but the market is still pretty volatile and the technology pretty new.
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 07:54 AM
21

"Why is being a blight on society and a child abuser so difficult???"
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 06:17 AM
18

I think the biggest change that's occurred to push MGTOW is the internet, and forums such as reddit. Many seem to think it's feminism that fuels MGTOW, but feminism is merely the tip of the iceberg as to why men should walk away. At most it got men to prick up their ears. The core problems are female nature and gynocentric society, which have ground men to dust for millenia. Feminism is a symptom of the disease. The internet has provided a lab for men to submit and draw conclusions from statisti…
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 06:07 AM
5

The deputy judge in the civil case, David Black, found the woman’s testimony about her injuries, including cuts, scratches and bruises, was “completely contradicted” by her doctor who said she saw no indication of any such injuries when examining her at a physical on March 28, 2011, the day after the alleged sexual assault took place. Open and shut case of false accusation. It's hardly a victory, considering a charge is as good as guilt in most cases. According to the article he's lost his job, …
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 05:21 AM
10

Well, forgive me for coming over all Beyoncé, but he does have to put a ring on it. There must be one advantage to being female. We do everything else. Is this satire?
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 07:20 PM
7

This isn't a good thing. Feminists might be psychopathic and stupid, but their free speech shouldn't be curtailed. Today it's their "dissident" voices, tomorrow it might be yours.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 06:10 PM
1

"Gambling" by itself doesn't indicate anything bad. You can make a lot of money playing Poker for instance. It's all about risk/reward, and done properly day trading can make a lot of money.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 05:53 PM
1

I would still be MGTOW. You're mistakenly under the impression that MGTOW only exists because of feminism. Feminism is only the tip of the iceberg; gynocentrism and female nature are the core problems, and they have existed for all of history and probably before. 200BC Athens? Chances are you'd be dying on a slave galley or on a battlefield while your wife is sitting in comfort and safety, eating her fill and already browsing new suitors. Based on your predisposition, you're probably more of a t…
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 11:16 AM
1

Looking for a profit. But the basis behind trading and investing is entirely different.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 10:55 AM
5

Day trading is pretty perfect for MGTOW: work on your own terms, and the money goes straight to you - not through the government or an employer. Problem with it though is it's very nonlinear and the vast majority of people just don't have the constitution for it.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 10:09 AM
3

Day trading has nothing to do with investment.
/r/MGTOW20/08/17 10:07 AM
1

Maybe, I just drew this up in the spur of the moment. I suppose it could be valuable having more of a properly produced infographic/sheet for this.
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 06:25 PM
3

The reason I don't include "regular sex" is because she's also getting regular sex from you. Sex is supposed to be mutually beneficial, if she thinks she's "giving" you sex or something like that, she's using sex as a weapon/bargaining chip and the relationship is dysfunctional. That would be a negative if anything. And there are other means to get regular sex that aren't so dysfunctional. But yes for future iterations I should probably include some things in green, that was meant as a slight jo…
/r/MGTOW18/08/17 02:44 PM
3

Just dividers.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 11:43 PM
28

I might at some point, I just drew this up quickly in one hour. Could easily be improved/extended.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 07:17 PM
1

If someone feels like it's appropriate to be a screaming bobblehead in the face of adversity, they've probably never experienced an ounce of hardship in their lives.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 09:00 AM
1

Some notes: You should have never talked to the cops, it could have only worked against you. It's tempting to just show them stuff like your Facebook to get the issue dismissed quickly, but legally you're at a disadvantage. Cops are mindless thugs of the state that will assault/kidnap/plant evidence or even kill you on a whim. The best thing was to try to get a lawyer involved first and keep your mouth shut. You're lucky you got away this time, but don't depend on luck. Manginas are just as bad …
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 05:43 AM
6

My main gripe with the new season is the "Family Guy"-esque humor - contextless, meaningless chatter. It's not funny and doesn't progress the story, basically filler. The first few seasons of Family Guy were good until they introduced that as well. Not sure if it's a result of female writing, but wouldn't be surprised.
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 11:12 AM
3

The world's always been gynocentric, you're just noticing it now.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 07:36 PM
14

You can pass shit-tests, but you are just rewarded with more shit-tests. Women's insecurity is bottomless.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 07:33 PM
4

What people don't get is that Eastern women are even more AWALT than Western women, they're just a bit smarter about it. While a Western woman will divorce rape or falsely accuse you, an Eastern woman will put up a nicer front for better long term gains (remember that deception/manipulation is a huge part of AWALT). She's not looking for short term cash prizes or social validation, she's looking for being taken care of into retirement and old age. The girls are feminine and family-oriented, and …
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 04:16 PM
3

It's literally mainstream medical knowledge at this point that male and female brains are different, structurally and functionally. It's also just painfully obvious to anyone alive and aware. How is it even controversial still?
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 12:19 PM
3

I quit from experience, these types of discussions go nowhere. Without even going into the morality or societal side of things (which you also don't seem to understand), you're trying to argue the fate of fetuses when you don't even know what a fetus is biologically. I've had good discussions on this topic. They don't usually begin with "I don't know anything about fetuses and btw we should overload the adoption centers because I know the difference between right and wrong". Good luck.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 12:13 PM
2

The fact that you even think there's a concrete "right and wrong" tells me you know nothing about morality, so this conversation is finished for me. I'm sorry about your mother, but surely you should be able to see the parallel of being taken off life support, and abortion (being taken off life support of the womb).
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 11:56 AM
3

Let me ask you, have you studied embryology? Do you know the stages and structures of human development? You sound super ideological equating abortion of early fetuses with murder. An aborted fetus has no consciousness, no sensation - it doesn't even breathe. A fetus is less biologically alive than even a braindead patient, and braindead patients are considered legally and medically dead despite still having a heartbeat. By your standard, even taking a shit is murder.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 11:49 AM
3

Still a burden on society. Kids aren't even getting adopted as is, what would tens of millions more in the system look like? Not to mention overpopulation. Killing is a part of nature, there's no animal out there that doesn't kill each other or some other organism for its way of life. And an early stage fetus is a lot less of an organism than anything we conventionally see.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 11:39 AM
3

it might even be true in the broader sense of things, but outliers will always exist Outliers exist for everything, it's a totally moot point against a rule. the beauty of marriage is that you get to decide who you settle down with. You just have to find the right person for you and I assure you they exist settling down with someone doesn't require a binding contract with the state that overwhelming favors one party in the marriage. If your partner demands one, they don't love you in the first p…
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 08:36 AM
2

The issue of abortion always seemed more utilitarian than strictly moral to me. You could have one scenario where a woman gets an abortion and just goes on with her life, or the other scenario where she basically has an unwanted pregnancy then has to live as a single mother, to the detriment of her child and society. Even if we were to grant personhood to an unwanted early stage fetus (which is inane to anyone that understands embryology), there would still be more benefit to abort it than to le…
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 08:12 AM
8

Eh, it's a cool phrase but pretty faulty logic. "Fruit is made from shit and ends in shit, why should it not taste like shit?" You don't have to be alone, or not alone, it's your choice. Just as long as you take responsibility for your decisions.
/r/MGTOW11/08/17 01:40 AM
1

AWALT is AWALT. Doesn't matter where they're from, doesn't matter their age, or your relationship to them. We're talking about something as ubiquitous and autonomous as breathing.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 05:27 AM
1

Say hello to taxation in general, where clueless sycophants put a gun to your head and think they're doing you a favor.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 12:05 AM
22

Any question that begins with "why can't women -" can generally be answered by: "Because they've never had to."
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 07:17 AM
2

If anybody should be dating up and having high standards, it's men. 99% of what separates us from wild animals is invented, built, and maintained by men. Whenever I hear a man say "I'm so lucky to have her" in regards to his lazy, vapid, nagging girlfriend/wife, I cringe so hard my liver hurts.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:03 AM
23

Reminds me of an old joke: Some 20-year old women go on a trip to Italy. They come home upset that guys tried to hit on them and pinch their butts. The same women go to Italy again when they're 40. They come home upset that no guys tried to hit on them or pinch their butts.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 11:15 PM
2

I've been MGTOW since as along as I can remember. Never wanted to marry, never even dreamed of it as a kid, was always quick to see bullshit. Writers, philosophers and monks from thousands of years ago also observed and covered a lot of the stuff we know now. Not knowing anything before MGTOW became a thing is just an excuse. I pity the men that go through the unjust, inhumane family courts, but they are retarded for never questioning or researching anything in the first place.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 09:41 PM
2

There are more and more women waking up to this reality and are rejecting feminism. There are plenty of women who now sympathize with men and can see the damage that feminism and the divorce laws are doing...So please understand, that MGTOW is not the answer. Too little, too late. Also, MGTOW at its core is not a response to feminism or divorce courts, but to female nature and gynocentrism which haven't changed for millennia. Feminism is merely a drop in the bucket; tip of the iceberg. Philosoph…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 06:31 PM
4

"We need to exponentially overpopulate the Earth so we all die of famine and war in 100 years, and to do that we need you to surrender your rights and give all your time and money to the state." People actually buy this shit? The only thing waiting for you in nationalism is to either bleed out alone on a battlefield somewhere, or to blow your brains out by age 55. No thanks.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 05:51 PM
10

Which is to say, they make a lot more since they take way more vacation time, balk at the hardest tasks and pay less/don't pay taxes and get most of the benefits from taxes.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 03:46 PM
2

Any "learning" algorithm generally needs a base set to start with - if you're trying to get a program to identify birds for example, it should probably know what a bird looks like first. So you might show it pictures of birds, and their names. Then when it sees similar pictures of the same birds, it will be able to identify them. This is generally called the 'in-sample'. Computers can learn in-samples very quickly; if you show it thousands of pictures of robins, you could expect it to be able to…
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 03:18 AM
3

I agree with some of what you said, but can't really agree with "no true intellectual has high social status". What do you mean by "true intellectual" here? Someone who ponders about existence, society, science etc. often does experience great success; look at all the authors and personalities out there that base their career on being a philosopher or skeptic. Not to mention, anyone that can work a profession or run a business generally isn't too retarded. If you mean the more insular forms of i…
/r/MGTOW30/07/17 05:06 AM
3

Are you surprised? Alt-right is just the "cool" version of tradcon, which is antithetical to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 06:47 AM
5

It's a workable mainstream definition, but one could definitely delve further once they are more acquainted with MGTOW and the theory behind it. The core problem is not "modern marriage/dating", those are only symptoms - the problem extends both deeper and older than that. The core problem is AWALT and its attributes, along with gynocentric society. Philosophers, monks, scholars...from 200, 300, 500, 2000+ years ago appeared to make the exact same insights about women that we make now, and from …
/r/MGTOW29/07/17 06:29 AM
1

200 Elo is the difference between an FM and a GM. Her chances of beating Carlsen (or anyone in the top 15) in a full length match are less than 1%. And that's with her being, as you said, a prodigy and an anomaly amongst women. I think there's more to intelligence than just ability to play Chess, but in this particular area it's true - women are unarguably worse at Chess than men, always have been, and always will be unless something dramatic happens. That's also considering they have way more C…
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 02:26 AM
1

I find it hilarious when these articles refer to these "incredible women" that can't find partners. When you describe a man as "incredible" you might picture someone like Elon Musk or Conor McGregor; an "incredible woman" pretty much just means that she's not an obvious crackhead. Also, education is hardly relevant for dating unless that education makes you a more interesting person. In my experience, even women with graduate or professional educations are usually still small-minded and boring a…
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 07:24 PM
2

It's the same mentality that would lead someone to become a street thug, but they probably chose being a cop for the dental plan.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:46 PM
11

Everyday regular civilians...except they are preternaturally violent and act as if above the law. Not surprised at how idiotic they can be. Surprised that they are allowed to violate human rights and basic ethics on a regular basis.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:36 PM
1

Disassemble the centralized, entrenched, and violent power monopoly that is government. All other societal problems are trivial to this.
/r/MGTOW25/07/17 09:06 PM
10

Marriage has zero value to you as a man This is incorrect. Marriage has negative value.
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 05:33 AM
6

We don't hate women, we just understand them.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 12:41 AM
1

If your job is good/helps your career, stick with it. Work is work, it's not necessarily supposed to be fun. As to surviving, just keep a low profile. Don't appear overly weak (they'll hunt/bully you) or overly strong (they'll try to start relationships/cause drama). And always be wary of false accusations, sexual or otherwise.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 12:09 AM
4

Same reason as why governments still exist - entrenched power and mainstream ignorance.
/r/MGTOW22/07/17 12:02 AM
2

It's easy OP, just treat her equally - ask yourself if you'd accept this sort of behavior from a male acquaintance. If the answer is no (it almost always is), then dump her ass.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 03:58 PM
1

Yeah and extrapolate it a few more years and we will be in the trillions... Blindly extrapolating dynamic data is not the correct way to analyze it. The population could crash tomorrow for some reason, or no reason at all. The only observation to make here is that it is currently rising quickly; nobody knows the future.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:30 AM
14

MGTOW is neither left nor right; the gynocentric tradcons are as annoying as the psychopathic feminists and the deluded alt-right. Libertarianism is probably the closest political philosophy to MGTOW, and the only thing "right" about that is personal freedom.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 07:26 AM
2

The variables are of course, not independent (for instance tall men might also earn more money on average), but I think if we had the real figure it would still be comparably small and render the same conclusion. Furthermore, most of the women seeking such men do not meet up to anywhere near the same standards on their end. So not only are these men rare, but they're probably looking for a partner with relationship criteria that the vast majority of women do not meet. Meaning even if a woman wer…
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 05:20 AM
68

Mooching implies some degree of consent. This is outright theft, which the state is well acquainted with.
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 03:22 AM
1

The "it's the globalists" argument doesn't really pass Occam's Razor. I find it hard to believe that a secret cabal of uber-rich are wringing their hands over a world map. What you're describing is more likely an emergent effect of many biological, economic, political and social variables. Some conjectures: The Great Recession. Unlike previous recessions, the "recovery" wasn't the result of renewed, real, economic growth. It was the result of the Fed pumping trillions into the stock market, infl…
/r/MGTOW17/07/17 10:41 AM
7

Good to see another ancap on these boards, I think the two philosophies are fairly synergistic.
/r/MGTOW16/07/17 11:01 PM
1

Practical reason for hiding your wealth: draws little attention from tax authorities. Let it grow in a tax-free or offshore account then retire on some island paradise. It's not just divorce rape, you're looking to avoid being extorted by the government in general.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 07:44 AM
15

Even in the past there was nothing sacred; it's always been a deception. Men manipulate the world while women manipulate men, feigning helplessness and timidity.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 02:45 PM
4

...you have not only given up on sex, you've also given up on scoring a girlfriend all together. This is a sign that you can't be bothered with finding women, talking to them, or even acknowledging them as equals. You are scared of women who are not getting paid to be affectionate; they intimidate you and make you feel like less of a man. Someone has their slave-goggles on too tight.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 11:18 AM
-1

Because Japan is educated enough to know what overpopulation is? It's Africa's prerogative if they want a 90% child mortality rate and endless war. I don't know why, but it's gotta start somewhere.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 10:58 AM
3

Get a couple of top-grade hookers, do whatever you want with them, then report back.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 07:26 AM
2

Continuing to overpopulate until the Earth runs out of natural resources in 100 years is not the answer. Some sort of population decline is needed, sooner or later.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 06:00 AM
2

You apparently don't know fuck all, so who are you to judge "the idea that supports the most good"? Nobody's stopping you from talking, but you sound like a moron to anyone with an ounce more context. Whatever.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 05:08 AM
2

Every other word is the word "I". Smells like an AWALT to me.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 05:06 AM
3

False dichotomy. You're obviously clueless about the anatomy of the state, so until you get more educated I suggest you shut up so that you don't spew more nonsense. Otherwise, look forward to getting shot for any pursuit of freedom.
/r/MGTOW09/07/17 04:55 AM
11

Police go hand in hand with every draconian state and corrupt politician - none of the crap laws, human rights abuses or oppressive ideologies would even be a problem without the army of mindless thugs that enforce them. If ever your freedom or rights are in question - it will be police kicking down your door and taking them away from you. I don't feel particularly thankful towards anyone who has a gun to my head. If you're looking to give a blowjob to the state's lapdogs, I suggest r/the_donald…
/r/MGTOW08/07/17 08:21 PM
1

The correct response to taxation is the 2nd Amendment.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 10:19 AM
4

I agree, there are probably a lot of variables that are linked, but without access to raw data I can't determine exactly how much that is. As noted in the OP, the "real" number for dateable women is probably higher than the calculation, but probably still fairly small; the "not totally crazy" criterion alone cuts the selection pool down by a vast swath.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 05:44 AM
39

The Chameleon Syndrome Q. What is the chameleon syndrome? A. A quasi-supernatural transformation, the chameleon syndrome is the predatory female's unholy ability to become whatever the script calls for in "hooking" a man. She will adopt his viewpoints, his attitudes, his hobbies, and his dislikes. Her personality will change to suit his. She will enroll in classes, become a gourmet cook, stop smoking, switch religions, accept his friends, humor his jealousies, develop a relationship with his rel…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 04:01 AM
5

I'm curious, what's the relation between MGTOW and jiu jitsu? Seems like a lot of people practice it. It's in the sidebar too.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 02:06 AM
7

In China, the husband is either legally or socially obligated to provide living arrangements for not just his wife and children, but also his wife's parents and sometimes other family. The divorce cost might be lighter but the upfront cost is significantly higher. Asian women are also no less materialistic than Western woman, and are in some sense even more so (look at lavish Asian weddings, focus on high-earning careers, manipulation of Western ex-pats for money and visas etc.) It doesn't matte…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 08:20 PM
1

Woman lies that you made her sign it under duress. Mangina judge rips it up. Prenups are a trap.
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 05:37 PM
6

I don't think that's actually true; genetic diseases often arise out of recessive gene pairings, most likely to happen within people of similar genotypes (which is why inbreeding is discouraged/illegal). If anything, babies of mixed ethnicities should carry less genetic diseases. This is a complicated matter overall though; for instance black people have higher rates of heart disease, with probably some genetic basis, and a mixed baby might have a higher chance of heart disease in particular eve…
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 09:34 PM
2

Yes they can, and if you can't/won't pay they'll throw you in jail. You also can't get out of it through bankruptcy. You're better off in the hands of a terrorist than your ex-wife in a divorce.
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 11:57 PM
1

That wouldn't even work; alimony is based on your salary during the marriage, not after. There's also a minimum on child support in a lot of places.
/r/MGTOW08/06/17 11:45 PM
3

I heard about this somewhere too, it sounds dubious. Sperm isn't a retrovirus.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 02:41 PM
13

What fucking world am I living in? Why are so many men TERRIFIED of displeasing women?? Other than stupidity, the threat of divorce rape probably has something to do with it. Which is why men should just never get married in the first place.
/r/MGTOW23/05/17 12:01 PM
2

Well there is some risk to chasing a dream; time risk, financial risk, reputation risk etc. Then again, you'll almost always regret not trying in the end.
/r/MGTOW22/05/17 11:52 PM
1

The fact that you even have this idea of "the rich" tells me enough about your aptitude on this subject. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 03:18 AM
1

That's just unbelievably ignorant. Socialism has no economic basis for working. There have been plenty of "real" socialist experiments throughout history, nearly all resulting in catastrophic humanitarian crises (the only exceptions, for now, are in countries that are already rich off capitalism). Capitalism creates wealth and dramatically reduces poverty; violence-backed "redistribution" leads to starvation and mass murder.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 03:07 AM
3

Might want to take an economics lesson or at least a quick glance at Venezuela if you think "socialism is good".
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 07:07 AM
5

You sure you don't have that the other way around?
/r/MGTOW12/05/17 05:23 AM
28

Most doctors are BP. Doctors are notorious for being unwieldy at anything outside of medicine; they spend so much time learning and working their profession that they don't really have time to learn or notice anything else unless they already knew it before entering medicine. Politically they usually just go with whatever's du jour.
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 03:48 PM
21

Sorry to be a bubble-burster but this sort of sentiment is just inaccurate and kinda pathetic. Female nature is not new. Gynocentric society is not new. MGTOW is not new. Read through history and you'll find iterations in every age. There will be no societal collapse or shortage of "good men". Hell will freeze over before women run out of simps to sacrifice. And if you're focused on your own life, you shouldn't care. The only people that obsess over this "where are all the good men" meme are tra…
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 01:07 PM
6

If you drop out or live on minimum wage, how does that benefit yourself? What should be despised is taxation (theft) and government tyranny, not developing your career or gaining wealth.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 10:32 AM
8

In Canada no less.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 06:44 AM
0

Nothing is "going on", they have always been this way, you've simply failed to notice it until now.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 09:40 PM
7

A lifetime of narcissism and entitlement isn't a great environment to develop character. Same reason why most of them lack a good sense of humor.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 09:37 PM
4

I don't really find the pretending to be good advice; women prey on weakness, and "beta" behavior will at best get you ignored (so no promotion potential) and at worst harassed. My experience with women in the workplace has been to just be reasonably strong, yet non-confrontational. Some TRP material could even be adapted for this purpose. The best move is what you said, to just try finding another job.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 07:40 AM
18

Seems to me like they walked away with years of free rent, food, travel, internet etc.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 02:56 AM
3

I've said this many times but it bears repeating; feminism should have almost nothing to do with your reasons for becoming MGTOW. Society has always been this way, it didn't change - you did.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 02:27 AM
6

I wholeheartedly agree that MGTOW isn't new, but we seem to have arrived at opposite conclusions. If MGTOW (or whatever historical version of it) was any larger than a miniscule part of the population, it would influence the rest of the population and society wouldn't be...what it is. For instance, look at how prominent gays and Jews are in the popular discussion, and they only account for about 2-3% of the population. In comparison, almost nobody's even remotely heard about MGTOW or red pill pr…
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 11:52 PM
1

It's been this way for all of history, calm down.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 09:54 PM
13

You still are the minority though, I doubt MGTOW will ever break through to more than 0.5% of the male population. Just live your life, don't care what others think.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 09:51 PM
57

TLDR; UK judges rule that fluffing some pillows is equal in importance to financial innovation that made billions for investors and helped a country's distressed debt. Never get married.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 08:09 AM
2

What does "friending for sex" mean? Anyway, the obvious solutions are just jerk off, or have sex. What's the big conundrum?
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 05:44 AM
2

Considering the state is one of the main enablers of injustice towards men (through unethical laws, wars, taxation etc.), libertarianism is probably the most related to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 04:54 AM
2

Yeah I sorta feel sometimes folks here go to extremes; going MGTOW doesn't necessarily mean throw away all your belongings and live in the woods, guys. You should still work, exercise, go out etc. just prioritize yourself.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 10:16 AM
2

If you're just getting 6-7% return, wouldn't it be far easier and lower risk to just buy an index fund?
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 06:03 PM
13

Actually, it won't. It would be great if the idea of a "societal change" or "decline or "collapse" rooted itself out of MGTOW discussion; those that expect such things fail to realize that the problem has not existed for 10, or 100 years, but for all of history and probably before. Look back thousands of years and you will still find societies expending their men, and the men who realize it walking away. Everyone thinks that they, or the time that they live in, are special. It's almost never the…
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 05:29 PM
2

This is true in theory but less clear in practice. If you go through life bottling everything in and nodding to things you disagree with, you're going to go mad.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 08:41 PM
3

Pretty sure it's closer to 80%. Even self-reported values are at 65%.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:18 PM
4

Nobody's life ultimately has any purpose, it's simply what you make of it. You can fill emptiness with anything. Go volunteer, go compete, go invent; there are countless things you could do to add meaning to your life. If you read a lot of guys's experience on forums like this, a lot of them say they felt their loneliest during their marriage/LTR. Except in rare scenarios, the whole "happy wife and family" deal was always a fantasy, so you're almost yearning for something that doesn't exist in t…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 03:31 PM
17

Keep in mind this was filmed like 4 years ago, and was meant for a general mainstream audience. To them, even MRM is a "red pill". I think it actually does a decent job for what it is.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 03:49 PM
1

I drink chemicals all the time, hell I even bathe in them!
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 03:19 PM
3

Lol, you been to Canada? A bunch of over-the-hill actresses made blatant false allegations against a popular male radio host, for no reason, and instead of perjury and criminal defamation charges they get book deals and media attention. That's the entire culture there. Tax rate is also like 50% and almost all of it goes towards women.
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 02:19 PM
6

The last point is spot on. The altright is just tradcon-lite, and tradconism is pretty antithetical to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 09:24 PM
1

Thank you, I appreciate it. I wish you luck as well.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 02:34 AM
1

School, business, possibly competitive gaming.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 02:15 AM
1

Quant finance, and some other plans down the road.
/r/MGTOW01/04/17 12:05 AM
1

Almost every mention of a 'collapse' on this sub is in reference to how MGTOW will cause it; in the case of an economic collapse, how men leaving the workforce or refusing to breed tax cattle might collapse the economy. Such ideas are delusional. MGTOW is not new, nor is it large/growing enough to have any effects like that. It is often the hopeful wish of a tradcon who is waiting for conditions to improve slightly so they can go back to being whipped, rather than a man dedicated to going their …
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 04:35 AM
1

Again, there's plenty of other places this question could be posted more appropriately. If you're hellbent on an answer - nobody knows if or when the economy will collapse. Not a single person on the planet knows what will happen in the market tomorrow.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 02:47 AM
3

Get an escort. Like many young men, you're obsessing over nothing when it comes to sex.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 12:00 AM
1

There will be no collapse related to MGTOW, not sure why this question is even here.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 11:51 PM
11

Eh, not really. Note how they're blaming 'the wedding industry' rather than the real cause.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 06:38 PM
9

I never get this sort of behavior; any girl that nags even once is pretty much dead to me. While guys like this live their whole lives with their heads down. Smh.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 03:57 AM
2

No, there will be no "collapse". The numbers are not significantly different than they have been all throughout history. Also, hoping for or expecting a collapse indicates you don't actually care for going your own way. The "global impact" shouldn't matter to you at all, unless you're just waiting for a good time to jump back on the simp wagon.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 12:51 AM
2

It's pretty much inevitable. 90% of men will never even be exposed to these ideas, 5% will maybe consider it past the first glance and maybe only 1-2% will actually understand and embody it. Not much you can do with the people like you mentioned. Don't try to help them, don't lament losing their friendship. Nothing short of extreme trauma will snap them out of it.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 10:33 PM
1

I'm actually not so sure about that, libertarianism isn't referred to very much on this sub.
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 10:23 PM
-1

Really chill. And will have no problem kidnapping/assaulting/murdering you as soon as their political paymaster tells them to. Look at the history of human atrocities and see how many were conducted by "boys in blue".
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 11:15 PM
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I realize that MGTOW is a path that everyone defines for themselves, but anyone in this sub should at least take a glance at libertarianism, there are many commonalities, including the preservation of personal freedom and not wanting to get screwed by the system.
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 05:14 PM
11

It's still good to be rich and healthy, just do it for yourself and don't let anyone harm you or put their expectations on you.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:54 AM
2

You had a large stake in your previous beliefs, as well as a lot of time to develop them. Since you've discarded them, naturally the feelings you get from it are gone too. The good news is, the meaning of anything and whatever emotions you attach to it, are completely up to you. So perhaps it will take some time, but you can and will find meaning and enthusiasm with whatever you want to partake next.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 07:56 AM
1

Thanks. National debt's not as bad as people think it is. A lot of the "debt" is actually a liquidity pool and investment asset for the rest of the world's currency. Things would actually be worse if the national debt was at zero, or significantly reduced. SS I'm not too familiar with tbh, but it seems relatively low on the list of things to be worried about geopolitically. If there is any sort of major financial or societal crisis in the near future, it will probably be due to interest rates or…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 12:52 AM
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Stefan Molyneux is not a good source for MGTOW (or anything, really). He thinks it's men's responsibility to get married, have kids and help to further overpopulate the Earth. And look how sheepish he is with any female caller. It's embarrassing. But it's good to hear you're doing well, don't stop.
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 04:51 AM
6

I'm glad when posts like this show up on this sub, far too many railing against modern feminism, when the truth is women and society have always been this way.
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 04:41 AM
7

That the greatest opponents of prostitution laws are the prostitutes themselves should tell you everything.
/r/MGTOW05/03/17 11:54 PM
4

The alt-right is just what edgy children of tradcons call themselves before falling into the exact same mold as the parents that they loathe. It's a tale as old as time. Their nationalism is an extension of their simp nature. It is still all about protecting women, providing for a family, and obeying the state (and implicitly forcing everyone else too as well). That they think they are "red-pilled" and "woke" would be funny if it weren't so gross.
/r/MGTOW05/03/17 11:38 PM
2

Not sure where you practice but doesn't public health generally override confidentiality in cases like this?
/r/MGTOW16/01/17 05:22 AM
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If you're in MGTOW for any reason beyond your own wellbeing, you're wasting your time. Female nature is not new. Gynocentric society is not new. MGTOW is not new. There will be no change, or "collapse", at least not within our lifetimes. Things tend to continue before they end, and this has been continuing for many thousands of years. Everyday this sub is smattered with idiotic posts along the lines of "Lol women will be sorry" or "Won't the end of feminism be great?". Those idiots will jump in …
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 01:15 AM
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Sports and science have been politically co-opted for a while now; male athletes have to be politically correct and female scientists have 3x the opportunity of male scientists with the same qualifications. The one true meritocracy left is eSports, where 99.9% of the top level competitors are male.
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 11:56 PM
1

This is extremely valuable advice for anyone new to work environments. AWALT (All Workplaces Are Like That). Doesn't matter if you're in corporate, academic or private. To paraphrase what I consider the most important points from OP: 1) Do not get too involved with them, even if it seems beneficial at the time. A woman's favor can whiplash into hate with no warning - their solipsism and irrationality at work. Give her little powder to work with, and she'll move onto an easier target. 2) BP men a…
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 09:43 PM
3

No. 1 rule of going through a hard time is: Do not kill yourself. What makes your situation seem difficult is almost always subjective, which also means that it's apt to change over time as you gain more knowledge and experience. Some teenagers kill themselves because of a breakup. Some young adults kill themselves because they lost a small sum of money. From an wiser person's perspective, those things aren't really worth it at all. Almost every problem you face now will seem small in the future…
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 07:23 PM
5

The best and worst small business is stock trading. Pros low startup costs and overhead can work from home potential for massive profits Cons high skill ceiling; very un-intuitive lots of fakes, frauds and red herrings potential for massive losses There are real cases of college kids starting with $1000 and becoming millionaires 2 years later, and there are also real cases of people losing their life savings. If you can handle this type of risk/reward then I would recommend at least a year of fu…
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 05:34 AM
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In the short run, it would cause a lot of problems economically. Less population means less output, less consumption. Earnings would shrink, and innovation would slow (it's a lot easier for 10,000 people to invent a new smartphone than for 10 or 100 people). However, it's an inevitable necessity for the long run. The earth has a limited amount of space, limited amount of resources. If we consume more than the earth can regenerate in a given period of time, then we are on a finite timescale. Eart…
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 06:15 PM
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No, and this is one of the most wrong ideas of the current MGTOW movement. Female nature is not new, MGTOW is not new. It has been this way since the dawn of time, you've only failed to notice it until now.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 02:23 PM
5

Uh, MGTOW is libertarian by nature, we tend to be self-sufficient and want to be left alone by the state and any other intruding forces. Pretty much the opposite of retarded Sanders-ite communism.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 06:59 AM
1

Who would just be randomly filming this guy before anything even happened?
/r/MGTOW20/12/16 09:59 PM
2

This is one thing that I'm not very bothered about. In comedy, you often need a "straight man" to contrast with the comedian to make the comedian seem funnier. In the case of this movie, and many popular works like The Simpsons, the comedian is often male and the "straight man" is often female. It's a convenient dichotomy, as men are more adventurous and unpredictable. Not only that, but you can see such a setup in comics made long before this was raised as a men's rights issue. It's an old come…
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 10:03 PM
1

For being such a competitive profession, most male doctors are unbelievable simps for some reason. Might have something to do with the political climate within the medical establishment, I don't think it was always that way.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 03:31 AM
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This is one of the most important pieces that people here need to get. I see too often people blaming feminism, or events within the past hundred years. Guys, this has been the way since as far back as we can remember. To the Antiquities and beyond. Men have always risked more, worked more, and taken on more blame and responsibilities, only to have their spoils siphoned off to the nearest woman through tradition or through force. Female nature is not new. Even MGTOW is not new, many of the old p…
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 09:24 PM
2

TRP is like saying junk food is bad for you so instead of chips you're going to eat candy instead.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 11:15 PM
1

The alt-right are just "edgy" tradcons. They're just as impressionable and just as much of a simp to women and to state enforcers as your average Bush-ite republican. They will grow up to be full-blown tradcons and their children will be the new alt-right.
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 11:53 PM
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There's a few reasons, that others have outlined already. Something that isn't brought up as often though is simply the age gap. Many of the people in TRP seem to be in their late teens/early 20's. Most of the people in MGTOW seem to be at least in their mid-late twenties, possibly even retired or married/divorced multiple times. With experience, it becomes apparent that no matter how "alpha" you are, you can't out-alpha the system. Your 6-pack won't stop a divorce rape, career sabotage, or fals…
/r/MGTOW12/12/16 11:43 PM
4

You would think that in the Internet age, brainwashing would be less common and less powerful, but it doesn't appear to be the case. As General James Matthis has said: technology throws in a wrinkle or two, but there's nothing new under the sun. We could have neural technology in 100 years boosting everyone to 200 IQ and transmitting ideas instantaneously, and there would probably still be these losers around.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 11:20 AM
3

You think MGTOW are celibate?
/r/TheRedPill08/12/16 03:54 AM
3

Now you're demanding pics of a random stranger on the internet rather than addressing the points. Pretty insecure for an "alpha". I never objected to "physical strength as an indicator of masculinity", as I said above: Many people with your physique or better claim they are alpha. They certainly look the part It's just when they open their mouths and show their insecurity and inexperience, that the alpha image disappears. Both MGTOW and TRP recognize the same truths, and also participate in the …
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 09:31 PM
4

You think you're alpha because you're popular on a subreddit filled with skinnyfat teenagers? And because you've spoken with some divorce-raped simp who's ex-wife conned for a green card? I think that's all that needs to be said.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 09:08 PM
2

Both focus on self-improvement and wellbeing, just for different purposes. MGTOW focuses on satisfying oneself, TRP focuses on satisfying women.
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 09:02 PM
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Many people with your physique or better claim they are alpha. They certainly look the part - until they open their mouths or do something. Then the lack of insight and life experience spills out. Rich Piana is a lot more muscular than you, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp a lot more handsome and successful. Didn't stop them from getting divorce raped. Having some alpha characteristics doesn't make you alpha, and even if you are, you still can't out-alpha the system. You're taking care of your body? Go…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 08:50 PM
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MGTOW doesn't offer a solution for society, but it does offer a solution for men themselves - to go their own way. Many of the pursuits of TRP and MGTOW overlap - exercise, work, wellbeing. However the "solution" that TRP claims to offer is anything but. Your claim to helping men is devoting their lives to satisfying women's sexual needs. Your claim to helping society is nihilistic pumping and dumping. You've simply replaced a box of chocolates with a box of condoms. You are not "alpha". I'm wil…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 08:35 PM
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Do yourself a favor, if you really don’t want kids, do not agree to have one. Find someone who is in the same page as you. Even this does not work, AWALT.
/r/MGTOW28/11/16 04:58 AM
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I agree. It's easy to rationalize something in hindsight. While there's certainly a basis in evolutionary biology, unless you've got a PhD of one of those hanging around, a comment in that regard probably isn't helpful.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 04:45 PM
3

Which is why all MGTOW should be at least a part libertarian.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 04:00 PM
2

Yes. It took less than a minute of watching their wedding video to see what this woman was about. If he was with her for any length of time and still got duped like he did, it's his fault. If it wasn't a divorce it would have been a Nigerian prince or bad stock bets or something.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 01:40 PM
15

Hopefully he's freed soon.
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 09:53 AM
2

Don't know why you included 'enemies of the state' in there, you group libertarians with commies?
/r/MGTOW09/11/16 05:55 PM
6

So men who cherish their time and don't waste their hard-earned money are selfish. lolk.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/16 02:45 AM
25

Is missing the 5th row about divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 02:12 AM
4

It's called "wishful thinking".
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 05:18 AM
13

There's a general assumption that women from the East (Russia, Ukraine, China, Japan, Middle East etc.) are better than the ones in the West. They are not. If anything, Eastern women are even more basically materialistic and hypergamic. Look at lavish Indian weddings. There's also a general assumption that modern feminism is the root of the problem, and it's a somewhat recent development. It is not. Society has always been deeply gynocentric. You can look back to the antiquities and still see me…
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 05:11 AM
1

I think he just doesn't practice what he preaches in general. What did he have, 5 divorces?
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 06:10 PM
1

Can't even really feel sorry for guys who get divorce raped nowadays. Plenty of information, plenty of warnings. If they didn't lose it all in marriage they'd have probably just shipped it to the nearest Nigerian prince or something.
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 12:32 PM
1

Exercising (but not specifically trying to get the most muscles possible) is good for both your physical and mental health. The time spent exercising is returned to you tenfold, so it's in your own best interest to do so, and perfectly in-line with MGTOW. Many of the PUA guys that focus on bodybuilding to attract women end up finding it satisfying in and of itself, and also helps with their work and hobbies. That's when they conclude the equation doesn't really need women in it. You'll notice th…
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 06:31 PM
1

If a girl doesn't love you without a ring, she sure won't love you with one either. From a practical perspective you should tell all potential partners early on what the deal is with you and marriage. Save both of you some time.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 01:01 AM
4

It looks like they were cordial and she barely touched him?
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 10:23 PM
8

STEM favors women to men with job opportunities and scholarships on a 3-1 basis. If there still aren't "enough" women in STEM, it's because they don't want to do it.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 08:45 PM
2

It doesn't need to be mandatory...some of the reasons are costs, time, and how it is somewhat accusatory towards the woman. While a lot of women cheat on their men, most don't. The main reform that should take place in this area is allowing men to opt out of fatherhood. Women can have an abortion across most of their pregnancy, and can also give up their child for adoption after birth. Men are pretty much responsible for a pregnancy as soon as a woman points her finger at him, and can't opt out …
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 06:08 AM
5

Canada has 1/10 the population of the US and more mgtow searches on Google. It's an SJW wasteland, and the prime minister is bent on turning it into a 3rd world country.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 01:40 AM
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Women have a wealth of birth control options. They can pretty much get pregnant only if they want to, or if they're intentionally negligent. There's almost no such thing as an "accident", but countless guys fall for it.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 08:58 PM
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Being wrong is a luxury. In harsher conditions, being wrong leads to death. Asian countries have had an incredibly rough history, even up until recently, compared to the west which has been relatively fine dining for the past several centuries. Asian countries have never needed 'feminism' to 'let women work' because women have always been able to work, always needed to work. The dire situations that Asian countries have gone through demanded all hands on deck, in both labor and war. Only in the …
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 04:31 PM
2

government can not take your gold. Oh really? The government can take your land, your possessions, and your freedom whenever it wants. precious metals are the best inflationary hedge Gold is a very imperfect hedge against inflation, and in times of normal inflation, gold performs worse than almost every other asset class. It's as volatile as the stock market while not providing anywhere near the returns. You sound like every other gold-shilling wackjob I've ever heard.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 07:45 AM
10

No. A lot of people buy stuff like gold in case of geopolitical turmoil or mass currency devaluation. In both cases, gold would be useless. a) In an apocalyptic scenario the nearest gang of brigands, or the government, will simply take your gold away from you. Even if you manage to keep it, how do you think you're going to spend gold ingots to buy groceries? Paper-gold would also be useless because in such a scenario there would be no reason for the gold suppliers to honor their contracts; they …
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 10:15 PM
0

The difference probably has something to do with IQ distribution. Men's IQ's are more extreme; there are more very stupid men than very stupid women, but there are also more very smart men than very smart women. At the fringes of any sort of competition, even those that aren't physical (like chess, cooking, trading) men are usually still at the top simply because of the way IQs are distributed. Women tend to aggregate closer together at the mean (which probably contributes to AWALT). I'm not sur…
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 03:25 AM
2

Congrats!
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 02:07 AM
1

Too busy with work and hobbies.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 04:28 AM
5

Isn't he Irish Catholic or something? Guess the traditionalism overtook him.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 09:15 PM
9

Judge rips it up. You have no rights (human, constitutional or otherwise) in family courts.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 04:01 PM
2

Trump will probably lose. Even before the debate the betting odds were something like 2.5:1 that Clinton would win the presidency, and he arguably lost the debate. If Clinton wins you better start brushing up on your Mandarin. Ironically, China and maybe Russia will be the only places in the world still powerful and lucid enough to take on the terrorist/Marxist abomination we're now facing down.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 03:03 AM
2

Regardless of the point you're trying to make, the math here is just terrible. You're assuming people have these individual traits exclusively with no overlap. Another part of your calculation essentially meant that all women with children are a) single b) not black and c) not overweight, which is clearly false. You could be off by nearly an order of magnitude the way you've done it. Also, MGTOW is not concerned with how many other men are MGTOW or how many available women there are. You could b…
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 02:58 AM
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"For a man, age brings success, wisdom..." Uh no. The man-truck doesn't stop by when you're 40 to drop a million dollars in gold ingots. Hard work, discipline and experience brings success and wisdom, for anyone. Delusions like this are why women act and see the world the way they do.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/16 05:40 AM
2

I've gone MGTOW with zero bad experiences. I think the reasoning is objective, especially through a libertarian lens. Plus, it's not like there's a shortage of other men's experiences to learn from.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 02:43 AM
5

Hamster Repeat
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 03:00 AM
1

The way that the courts conduct alimony, child support, and child custody are blatant human rights violations. No amount of "tax benefits" is worth throwing away your life. It's unfortunate, but any man who can't see that deserves what they get. Family courts are an ethical cesspool filled with crocodiles, but at this point, anyone who intentionally goes swimming in that pool is a dumbass who probably would've gotten wrecked one way or another.
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 06:56 AM
10

Doctors especially are notorious for being absolutely useless at anything outside of their profession.
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 07:37 AM
4

Women - obvious reasons Men - Mainstream men generally don't know about MGTOW, so I don't think much hate comes from them. They were born and raised with a script and there's no chance they go off of it until they experience some sort of trauma like divorce rape, career sabotage, or false allegation. Until then, they're pretty happy slaving away for women and the state. TRP men recognize a lot of the same truths as MGTOW; but whereas we decide to go our own way, they decide to double down. There…
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 07:20 AM
4

Because that's not what this sub is about. You're ignoring thousands of years of history, and biology, betting that a societal shift of unprecedented scale will happen within the next generation. MGTOW is about accepting that such a thing is extremely unlikely/impossible, understanding society for what it is, trying to live for yourself and to succeed with that information.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 03:43 AM
8

WSJ has been a cesspool since they were bought up by the Clinton Foundation about a year ago.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 12:40 AM
13

The overreaction to negligible things reminds me of the hygiene hypothesis. Essentially, the less exposure that you get to certain things, the stronger and more detrimental your reaction to them. For most women, who don't experience much hardship compared to men, even tiny grievances like a casual side-remark can be construed as some sort of extreme trespass or existential crisis.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 12:33 AM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights31/08/16 08:14 AM
2

It's both a blessing and a curse. Females will get significantly more media exposure for their support on this issue than men, but it also means they can co-opt it to whatever ends that they want. The lack of voice that men have on issues which affect an entire 50% of the population still persists, and probably won't change.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 07:16 AM
4

TRP and MGTOW recognize a lot of the same truths. Difference is, MGTOW acts on them.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 06:37 AM
7

I facepalm a little when I see posts like this. I think what a lot of you guys are missing is that the current situation is not born out of feminism. It's not recent. Maybe feminism exacerbated it, but it's always been this way; endless male sacrifice to appease women. Philosophers observed it thousands of years ago. A lot of people in the MGTOW community think there's going to be a 'collapse' or a shift in society where men become fairly valued and women's entitlements get taken away from them.…
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 06:06 AM
1

Possibly. But it still wouldn't really work if not for: a) retards that slurp that shit up and think they're enlightened b) structures that enable and even promote people to have such arbitrary power over others So you can blame the elites, but there are millions upon millions of people willfully complicit in their scheme.
/r/MensRights22/08/16 08:18 AM
1

No, society is.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 10:12 PM
11

Because women need more free products and services.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 04:17 PM
6

Very, very many things. Even most mgtows believe the disparity is a result of feminism over the past 50 years...in reality it's been happening throughout all of known history. Men have always been made to risk more, suffer more, and work harder, only for their spoils to be passed on to the nearest woman and her children. And then he needs to bear blame, shame, and complaining on top of that. The absolute fundamentals of society would have to change, and I think that's close to impossible, which …
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 03:38 AM
5

There is no rape culture. There is very much a false rape culture however.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 03:31 AM
1

The funny thing is, the prostitutes are actually against this law because it deters customers and hurts their profits.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 03:29 AM
6

Pre-mgtows.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 03:24 AM
6

Man tax already exists. It's called progressive income tax.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 09:29 PM
12

If being not obese is literally the only thing they have to do in their life to succeed, and they still fail at it (and complain on top), it's just truly pitiful.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 02:21 AM
2

At least you know what you're getting with a hooker.
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 02:18 AM
2

I'm not really satisfied by the gamete explanation. We're overpopulated, childbirth is now safe/easy, children are expensive to raise and the economy is in the dumps. Either perception is significantly lagged from reality (which is entirely possible) or there's a multitude of other reasons for it. I don't think we should immediately jump to egg/sperm ratios, male expendability etc. when considering this question.
/r/MGTOW01/08/16 01:08 AM
2

Yeah I wonder that too, why doesn't he just tell them to gtfo? What's the worst that could happen, some obese blue-haired puffball body slams him? Actually, now that I think about it that is kinda bad...
/r/MensRights01/08/16 12:28 AM
2

That sucks, but why delete your account?
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 09:19 PM
1

Psychiatric illness is still a somewhat "young" field, similar to where surgery was a century ago. There's still pretty high variance in the efficacy of psychiatric drugs, and incomplete understanding of the mechanisms of the underlying disease. I would, first and foremost consult your psych about it (if your psych's seemingly unsatisfactory, find another one or go to your family doc). In terms of long term side effects there's a lot of variance there, but in general it shouldn't be anything maj…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 01:01 PM
7

The hardware store only sells up to 10-foot ones?
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 11:30 AM
8

White knights. Where to place them on the human filth hierarchy? Somewhere between terrorists and hippies?
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 07:12 PM
6

Most of the comments are a bunch of hand-wringing apologists and manginas. "B-b-ut maybe the guy just becomes pissed off and violent from being unemployed, and the wife is just a victim and wants to escape. Nothing to do with money whatsoever."
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 08:47 AM
23

It's doubly insulting because there's a lot of hardworking, intelligent women that could have won this award and gotten some much needed publicity. But yeah, give it to some psychopathic attention whore liar instead.
/r/MensRights29/07/16 07:20 AM
6

The AWALT/NAWALT phrasing isn't meant to say that empirically, 100%, all women are like that. It's meant to promote caution and note common malicious characteristics of women. It's similar to the phrase 'all guns are loaded'. Not literally every gun in the world is loaded, but quite a lot of them are, and if you aren't sure you best assume that it is because of the severity of the downside involved.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 06:50 PM
3

Women are free to do whatever they want. It's when it's deceptive and at the expense of men, that there's an issue.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 06:45 PM
6

I dunno about you, but it seems like there's been a slight uptick in the mainstream media in covering these issues. Still a long ways to go, but good to see these important issues getting a nonzero amount of attention.
/r/MensRights28/07/16 06:10 PM
9

That guy gets it.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 05:31 PM
11

If a woman doesn't love you without a ring, she's not going to love you with one either.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 05:30 PM
3

First I'll mirror a poster before me, this really belongs in TRP rather than here; strictly speaking MGTOW is against marriage and in a lot of cases against relationships with women as well. That said, there is some overlap, and the primary goal of both groups is to help men realize their potential and avoid getting screwed over, so I'll give you my take on this. Sorry to tell you OP but your story sounds a lot like the beginning of a divorce rape story. You can search around in MGTOW and TRP, s…
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 01:24 PM
8

The law aspect of it is certainly a large incentive to go MGTOW. Nobody wants to get thrown in jail for unjustified, unethical reasons, and it's more than a little perverse that the most common way for that to happen nowadays is from someone who supposedly "loves" you. You're correct in that Law vs. Solitude reasons aren't mutually exclusive; personally I think they are related in that one comes before the other. Heterosexual men are naturally attracted to women, and bonding with them has worked…
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 11:29 AM
10

Women have a herd mentality and are prone to lying. If multiple women start accusing a person of rape, it's actually less likely that a rape has occurred than if an individual woman did.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 10:10 AM
7

The wife was a piece of shit, but honestly, the dude just walked into this one as well. If it wasn't a terrible marriage+divorce rape he would probably have just gambled it all away in Vegas or died from drunk driving or something; he doesn't sound very lucid.
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 04:27 PM
8

It's actually pretty funny.
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 01:15 PM
13

Canada, especially Toronto is fucking AIDS. Source: Live in Canada, been to Toronto
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 11:06 AM
1

That's awful.
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 08:21 PM
1

Another few 10's of millions of cases like this and reparations will have been made.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 06:40 AM
5

As a PC enthusiast...I'd say it'll be GTX 1580 or beyond before our technology gets to that level.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 02:40 AM
14

It's almost certainly going to be banned or at least heavily regulated/taxed, because "muh violence against women" or some bullshit like that. That will be a large hurdle to overcome.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 02:24 AM
19

TRP's supposed major paradigm shift vs. TBP is to stop pedastalizing women. After they come about this epiphany, they begin to devote their lives to...pedastalizing women in another way. It's still all about picking up women, attracting women; except this time instead of flowers and chocolate, it's with muscles and "confidence". They still fail to grasp how they place themselves in a servile position and propagate society's power imbalance. It's barely any different or better than the "betas" th…
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 02:00 AM
24

I remember watching this guy's wedding video a while back. One of the most prominent things I noted was how there wasn't a single ounce of love in his bride's eyes. Go back and watch it now, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7cXjV-2Yw If men can't remember anything else about protecting themselves, just remember one thing: NEVER. GET. MARRIED.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 11:01 PM
9

That would be the financially correct thing to do, but sometimes you gotta live a little.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 10:28 PM
8

Probably has a lot to do with nature, but that's not much of an excuse in our current day and age is it? We have enough information now to know that ceaseless eating and procreation are bad, and can do things about it like dieting and contraception, but the bottomless self-interest of women isn't even talked about or acknowledged at all, when it's arguably even more incompatible with modern times.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 09:08 PM
18

Woman stabbed the man several times, tried to PULL HIS INTESTINES OUT, then shouts to the neighbor that HE'S trying to kill HER. Gone Girl levels of crazy.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 09:06 PM
8

It's interesting how compartmentalized this part of the male brain is. Even men smart enough to make billions of dollars somehow still fall for these simple traps. Imagine what we could do if half our assets weren't constantly being leeched by women and the state.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 09:01 PM
1

It shouldn't even be maintenance for a short period of time - they were already being provided for during the marriage, why should they get a single cent more afterwards? If anyone pays anyone it should be the wife to the husband for the years of accommodation LOL. Still good to see progress though.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/16 06:20 AM
10

It's a reference to how women don't have as much pressure in their lives to work and improve themselves. If a man doesn't work, he dies homeless on the street. If a woman doesn't work, she just marries someone and divorce-rapes them, walking away with a house, salary and pension. Can get some bonus cash from the state too. If your life is easy, there's not a lot of pressure to mature or build character, so relative to men they are more akin to children. The irony is that they often perceive them…
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 12:03 PM
3

So much wtf in this article. Judge Mangina Guy proposing in front of family for no reason, considering he wasn't planning to marry House sold for 810,000, but got less than 300,000? The state fucking people left and right while making sure it gets its fat slice The guy probably paid her college tuition and gave her food and housing all this time - if anyone's paying anyone it should be HER to HIM.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:51 AM
1

It's not today's men, it's been like that throughout civilization. It was actually justified to some degree in the past, since we actually needed women to birth and raise lots of children to fight against war, disease, and build up a large enough population to support technological progress. Times have changed, with women's primary biological function crashing down in usefulness, but society hasn't adjusted for it yet. To be fair, it has been a recent and unique phenomenon, and people wanting to…
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 07:56 AM
1

There's no way these are real.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 03:33 AM
2

Possibly...but I think the fact that men have to do most of the work while taking most of the harm is already a good enough explanation for the difference in suicide rates.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 01:26 AM
-2

I realize a lot of people consider this explanation a cop-out, but it really is just nature. Look at the reproduction ritual of the black-widow spider, ant colonies or the angler fish. Males are simply there to work and/or be consumed. The evolution of human society has favored the prioritization of females. This may or may not be necessary anymore in our modern, populated, technology-based society, and behavior may be malleable/can be further evolved, but it has been the case thus far. These me…
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 01:11 AM
8

I work with a lot of technology and it's been my experience with tech support and technicians. The guy usually has a cheerful attitude and is competent in his work, while the girl usually knows less than I do and acts bitchy the whole time. A guy who was like that would get fired. It's ridiculous what they get away with.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 10:05 PM
4

She got an airplane ticket for doing nothing, what's she complaining about?
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 07:42 AM
3

You can try to put the information out there but don't get your hopes up on convincing them or getting them to 'see the light'. Once people are past a certain age, nothing short of a traumatic experience will change their mindset. If they suffer for it, you are not to blame whatsoever.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 07:40 AM
1

I agree with the effects you mentioned but I'm not sure you can say this is what it's 'always' been about. I doubt anyone in politics or the feminist movement had the brains and foresight to plan such a thing 50-100 years ahead of time.
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 09:06 PM
1

The growth rate is pretty decent though.
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 08:55 PM
1

No amount of 'shouting from the mountaintops' can convince people of anything once they're past a certain age, it usually takes a traumatic event to do so. So we're talking like at least a divorce-rape here.
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 08:53 PM
1

Why have only 10 billion people on Earth when you can have 10 trillion?
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 03:32 PM
1

Aaand divorce rape in 3..2..
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 03:30 PM
1

This applies to most things in general...you can't counter a lifetime of indoctrination with a few sentences, but you might be able to plant a seed that can grow over time.
/r/MGTOW10/07/16 02:20 AM
1

TRP loves to chant "don't pedestalize pussy", often citing their previous ways and how they're a better man now and everything is changed. They lift, they try to be confident...then they commit their lives to revolving around pussy again, just in another way. If you are the one making the effort to get laid, then you still don't truly understand.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 10:37 PM
1

This isn't happening in a vacuum, they are being enabled. Think they could afford to be 'dressed to the T's', and own a smartphone while shopping in a mall if someone wasn't paying for it? They are getting money from either the men they divorce-raped, or the government. If this problem is to be addressed, first and foremost the flow of money towards this degeneracy must be cut off.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 10:17 PM
-1

Reddit mods are almost universally obese nerds trying to pour their spite onto others, regardless of subreddit. Sorry that you got banned, didn't seem like you did anything to deserve it. As for your topic, it's just social pressure that's been there since the beginning of time. It's no longer tenable though, with overpopulation and shrinking resources, childbirth is no longer necessary or even a positive thing. Perhaps when people realize this, women will stop be given a free ride, although tha…
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 10:00 PM
2

I was at the edge of my seat OP, glad you managed to escape. It's not a typical story though, I don't think most people can hope to achieve the same outcome.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 09:38 PM
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