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The United States Department of Justice does not publish a national breakdown detailing the exact number of women incarcerated specifically for the offense of "made to penetrate." Sexual assault and rape statistics are tracked broadly, and these figures do not frequently isolate the specific gender dynamics of the victim and perpetrator at the national level. No official national statistics exist for the exact number of U.S. women arrested specifically for "made to penetrate" offenses, because i…
/r/MensRights27/07/26 06:09 AM
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yea that shows their disengenious agenda + hypocrisy...
/r/MensRights27/07/26 05:48 AM

the reactions within this post "about intersectionality" just display the conflicts each branch of feminism has while they try to dismantle the patriarchy and define what feminism is about or what a feminist is...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:23 AM
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no point in arguing about your anecdotal evidence as it is impossible to debate about a lived experience as base...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:09 AM
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https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:52 AM
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"Anonymous self-report surveys (such as campus or community studies) often find that roughly 3% to 10% of surveyed men anonymously admit to acts that meet the legal definition of rape or attempted rape." kinda sad if people are not able to analyze data properly... if both are drunk it counts as the man did rape or attempted rape here if something sexual happened...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:53 AM
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ive seen some terrible bad math + conclusions/semantic games aswell looking at survey data about sexual violence but i added more info...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:27 AM
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just provided vital information for the conversations happening in this post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:03 AM
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The United States Department of Justice does not publish a national breakdown detailing the exact number of women incarcerated specifically for the offense of "made to penetrate." Sexual assault and rape statistics are tracked broadly, and these figures do not frequently isolate the specific gender dynamics of the victim and perpetrator at the national level. No official national statistics exist for the exact number of U.S. women arrested specifically for "made to penetrate" offenses, because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:53 PM
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just for risk evaluation -> 2023 in the us... (source fbi) -one out of 2358 people got raped/made to penetrate (127216 total = 0,04%) -one out of 13404 people got murdered (22830 total = 0,008%) as reference point -> that many people died 2023 at home by accident "125700" or in a car crash "40901" data for the us from 2023: 13789 male victims of murder 3849 female victims of murder (yes i know the roughly 14k men and 2k women perpetrators part) roughly 49k suicides per year in the us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:39 PM
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well it becomes obviously problematic if various issues get conflated, misinformation gets spread and people have no interest in solving the issue but pour oil into the gender war fire by creating zero sum games... i doubt we would find many people here who are against putting rapists or murderers into prison or removing them from where they can do harm but that is not the discussions or debates we have most of the time... it is mainly all about listenting to anecdotal evidence and getting blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:33 PM

61% of U.S. women say ‘feminist’ describes them well According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. people just deny how many women have agency and voted trump "roughly 40 million" = choose/consent to a conservative or moderate lifestyle... they are also in denial about pushing statistical parity -> how to dismantle the patriarchy... "Choice feminism is the belief that any choice a woman makes is inherently feminist simply because she chose…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:55 AM

i would claim way too many people "men + women" are hypocritical about consent or violation of consent and hide behind double standards... i do not think this is an issue feminism can be blamed for... anyways it is very vague what a feminists is or what feminism is about or what patriarchy is and how to dismantle it...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:07 AM

certainly true BUT people are not consinstent on that if we look at legal parental surrender or made to penetrate and how it gets presented + tackled...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:03 AM

certainly true BUT people are not consinstent on that if we look at legal parental surrender or made to penetrate and how it gets presented + tackled...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:02 AM

please do it people have a short memory as it seems... btw that also includes lying about contraception or blackmailing...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:00 AM
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When you’re a woman and you approach men they think less of you. It’s not the “chad” types either, men who are average have the same thing happen for some reason. Men assume a woman that approaches is easy, desperate, obsessed with him, etc. and they toy with her feelings and use her for sex. that really depends on if you want a conservative/moderate or liberal/progressive as they value different things... look above it is similiar but men have the issue to be the creep, harassing her and so on …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:02 PM
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that obviously goes in both directions... maybe we could cut stuff like respect or decency but people have very different preferences based on their lifestyle choices... how fairness looks like within relationships is very subjective while distributing tasks and time investment...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:49 AM
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i know and you can also add choosing a conservative or moderate lifestyle as id expect progressives mostly try to split evenly... many people ignore agency and want to create an arbitary parity... if you ask said people why women who want to do less household work do not choose partners who earn less and agree on contributing more at the home they become silent really quick... agency + initiating is not the strenght of a lot of people but fairness is no one way street...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:48 AM
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some data about breadwinners + household chores... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ The share of women who are sole or primary breadwinners in opposite-sex marriages has tripled over the past 50 years, rising to 16% in 2022 from 5% in 1972. Including co-breadwinners, roughly 45% of wives earn the same or more than their husbands, driven by increased education and labor participation. Roughly 29% of ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:59 AM
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they do not care and thats how equity works in their minds but this does not lead to equality... it is similiar with political representation and lifestyle choices but apparently agency does not matter... fairness is no one way street... some data about breadwinners + household chores... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ The share of women who are sole or primary breadwinners in opposite-sex marriages …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:57 AM
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both people you mentioned acted based on what their party wanted and men would have done the same... you can talk about in-group bias but this section about politics and their parties is a bad example... try to use violence in general and how just physical violence matters in our society apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:19 AM
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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men and made to penetrate generally) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/frauenkriminalitaet.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_…
/r/MensRights23/07/26 08:07 AM
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i think the in denial position about womens toxic behavior is based on confirmation bias + distorted data that got presented in misleading ways... women are considered as vulnerable group/class by feminists + conservatives -> which leads to trivializing their actions or agency... that said your conclusion about women in power is hillarious... specially if you think about women who had power in the past and how they acted/behaved... i think it does not matter much if a progressive man or conserva…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:40 AM
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men are also nicer to certain men... same story for women being nice to certain women... how about looking at each person genderless with equal value? preference is preference no matter if it is from women or men...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:40 AM
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for me personally i already told you my issue with patriarchy theory and statistical parity... on top of that i would oppose choice feminism or terfs and a few others like that... the ultimate goal would be a fair gender neutral society...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:48 PM
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how can you claim then that criticising + opposing feminism or feminists = removing womens rights? if you talk with a pro lifer or women should not vote person sure jump at at their throat...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:38 PM
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if you are honest the majority of feminists push womens interests -> fighting for people who identify as women... that you equate feminism to equality or opposing parts of feminism as removing womens rights ignores how it gets evaluated and the issue revolves around what patriarchy is + how to dismantle it -> statistical parity... it also does not help that feminists of all branches are in conflict about what feminism is about or what a feminist is...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:50 AM
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well id say the issue revolves around what patriarchy is and how to dismantle it... it starts with pushing statistical parity, trivializing toxic behavior and how equality or equity or agency gets evaluated... anybody who shames + trivializes sa or dv or in general violence victims is toxic and that includes feminists + women aswell... example how made to penetrate or reciprocal violence gets not acknowledged in crime statistics...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 07:44 AM

where did i claim that? i provided the research you were talking about and added that this will not change aslong as there is conservatism...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:15 PM
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the worst are obviously dictatorships with active conscription or countries in anarchy without clean water to drink and similiar things... if you talk about democratic countries only it is another story...
/r/MensRights21/07/26 11:46 AM

Good Housekeeping, Great Expectations: Gender and Housework "gender" Norms Yes, women are consistently judged more harshly than men for having a messy home, according to sociological research. Studies show that people notice the same amount of mess regardless of gender, but women face negative social penalties and are viewed as less competent and less hardworking for a messy space, whereas men are often given a pass. this is really no suprise if you consider the structure of tradcon families + r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:09 AM
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just to provide some data about breadwinners... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ The share of women who are sole or primary breadwinners in opposite-sex marriages has tripled over the past 50 years, rising to 16% in 2022 from 5% in 1972. Including co-breadwinners, roughly 45% of wives earn the same or more than their husbands, driven by increased education and labor participation. Roughly 29% of marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:23 AM
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it is really silly that the so called progressives/feminists support what they call patriarchy by trivializing womens toxic behavior... specially by saying men do more damage or how they present crime rate numbers already gendered in high % numbers... examples of how they trivialize toxic behaviors are made to penetrate or reciprocal violence or violating consent or involuntary manslaughter and how it gets recognized + tackled... btw i would be very cautious with how you frame this...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:14 AM
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continue like this it is more evidence... the orignal claim was there is no such data "men not pulling their weight" that shows in detail how it got evaluated and "comes in naturally without hard evidence" does not change anything about it... the data tells something different than what certain people claim... im not saying the data here is useless generally but it is not useful for the topic at hand -> what is considered as pulling your weight... that would require to consider relationship nego…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:23 PM
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institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general Why don't men organize and campaign more to bring true equality? how did human rights got setup or created and who died for it to this day to enforce it? statistical parity thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:05 PM
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institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issue x or women and men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:03 PM
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The data does exist then. Got it. nice try but actually you contradicted what you claimed about "not logged as labour" and you also ignored "interviewers do not use a rigid, scripted questionnaire for the diary. Instead, they use a conversational technique, allowing respondents to report their day in whatever order comes naturally" so either you are not able to analyze data or you want to distort it...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:53 PM
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menslib does not allow men to just join their sub or post/comment there so your suggestion is lacking... ofc people argue against solutions that offer nothing that solves the issue at hand... thats also a reason why there is so much infighting within feminism between all branches regarding how to tackle patriarchy...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:47 PM

thank you for the link ill save it as that is very interesting... that said do you understand how that correlates with surveys about how much household chores people do and how much leisure time they have? American Time Use Survey (ATUS) data compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) shows women spend more time on household chores and unpaid care than men. On days they perform these activities, women spend an average of 2.8 hours on household tasks, compared to 2.1 hours for men. General …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:26 PM
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there is no data in detail about such stuff* hence all the assumptions/speculation around this topic... nobody can proof in a credible way who does how much as the studies + surveys are still lackluster... examples: does doing laundry or dishes in a washer while watching netflix etc count as -> how long the washer runs or how long it takes to fill + empty it for work + leisure time? how do conservative vs progressive households get counted and what they negotiated for their relationships? edit: …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:37 AM
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how about you read the studies in full before you claim breadwinners got ignored? did you provide anything past your opinion yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:16 AM
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the stats are about highlighting that 30% of the population see this as a controversy at best and moderate people just get ignored hence it is no suprise that many people are not aware... i also know the common responses from the conservative side like for example getting dependant on state based social safety or similiar things... personally i just want to look at issues from various angles to find the best solutions how to tackle it...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:12 AM
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"most likely" is no solid evidence and the issue here is how the data gets analyzed... can we agree on that this topic should be investigated way more deeply by studies that factor in various variables that could distort the outcomes? Adding up paid work, housework, and childcare. Married looks like 55 total work hours for men and 54 for women. Cohabiting 48 total for men 51 for women. Single 50 and 50. source pewresearch edit: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:54 AM
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who said it is nothing? i just question how we evaluate the whole topic... btw try to engage in good faith else a conversation is pointless...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:48 AM
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just as sidenote... does doing laundry or dishes in a washer while watching netflix etc count as how long the washer runs or how long it takes to fill + empty it for work + leisure time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:45 AM
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paid labour vs unpaid labour there are certainly men who violate what was negotiated about distributing housework BUT the entire topic gets distorted by conservative values vs liberal/progressive values and statistical parity... people have agency and a different point of view about for example what is considered as tidy + clean + how much time and effort you have to put in a task etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:54 AM
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that was a good read of a comment. thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:42 AM
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therapy is good to have as option but does not solve all issues of various people... just as example a lackluster upbringing of children from irresponsible parents is hard to deal with in therapy... btw nothing is free the cost just gets distributed to many people and you have to pay insurance...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:19 AM
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it is meaningless because there is just his truth no matter the facts... toxic behavior of women gets trivialized from multiple sides as they are considered a vulnerable group/class by progressives + conservatives...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:51 AM
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are you talking about the controversy or debates in progressive/feminist circles about the patriarchy generally daily? ive to tell you... 61% of U.S. women say ‘feminist’ describes them well According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:41 AM
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sure... how dare i comment or post anything and do not agree on everything a woman "any person really" has to say and suggest basically anything "mansplaining" i guess i just shut up but get blamed anyways...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:35 AM
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i wonder why... (rhetorical question)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:29 AM
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do not get children if you are irresponsible or can not afford them... These men also want babies. They never actually think of logistics. weird agenda but you missed the men who want to be stay at home dads or work parttime with the woman working fulltime as she earns more than him...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:02 AM
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na the issue is how equality and equity get evaluated + presented + tackled... just pro lifers "men + women" want to remove your choice regarding ending a pregnancy and id say the same people also want to remove the voting rights of women according to their gender role system... choosing a partner is related to upbringing of children and family structure if somebody does not understand the connection here how a healthy society looks like for different people...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:20 PM
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The problem is that you're collapsing very different issues into one. so the exact thing you do and did with your posts and comments example harassment + assault + reciprocal violence + androphobia etc? lesubia study about sexual violence Beyond that, women are sexually assaulted at much higher rates, and they're still routinely met with victim blaming see i would be on board to tackle this but as soon as you talk about a topic like that you present it in a misleading way and by the way gender/s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:49 AM
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if you want to talk about female rape apologia use made to penetrate + legal parental surrender to highlight the hypocrisy and double standards within the sexual violence + equality topics... The hidden rape apologist...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:54 AM
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claiming men are the majority of victims is stupid and the debate should be about how to tackle sexual violence or consent instead of who is the predator or victim... <image> lesubia study about sexual violence reciprocal violence "national library of medicine"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:20 AM
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can you provide sources if you claim something like this? -> https://revtrad-femalesv.tiiny.site/ <- what source is that exactly? as you saw the average ppd user will ask who rapes them so your prison stats gets trivialized... anyways what about made to penetrate or violating consent? do not make the mistake and claim men are the majority of sexual violence victims you will lose that debate terribly... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:12 AM
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i think the main issue here is how people vet their partner... some do it beforehand and some during the relationship... it is really just problematic if children are involved or assets have to be split...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 06:31 AM

you are aware that there are moderate people right? if you want to criticise hypocrits or toxic behavior "no matter the gender/sex" sure but they are everywhere -> progressive, liberal, moderate, conservative all of them setup certain gender roles that are mainly based on upbringing of children + family structure... looking at dating it starts with who initiates + where to approach and how it should look like... btw people redefine at will what misogyny or misandry or patriarchy or gynocentrism …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:15 AM
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you are aware that there are moderate people right? if you want to criticise hypocrits sure but they are everywhere -> liberal, conservative, moderate all of them setup certain gender roles that are mainly based on upbringing of children + family structure...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:58 AM
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use the lesubia study it is more up to date... LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis of the last five years shows that men are also comparatively frequently affected by…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:00 PM
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thank you for showing off that you have no clue about how to analyze data and add your conclusions on top of that... ill repeat nobody argues against that men do the majority of violent crime but that is not what this topic is about and that you add your opinion "vast or rare" that differs from the claims in this op to dilute the topic... i already posted the total numbers even without % and explained how people conflate various points like harassment + assault to distort all of them... "always …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:32 PM
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0,004667% perpetrator men VS 0,000667% perpetrator women of the us population still based on lackluster data that for example ignore made to penetrate or screwing somebody over with contraception or how reciprocal violence or wrongful death/involuntary manslaughter gets tackled by the justice system... oh wait how far does violent crime go exactly or do we just count what men do? that said op is about opposing conservatism and tackling androphobia because of sexual harassment like catcalling... …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:35 PM
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in your dreams "overwhelmingly" more certainly but you have no solid data on that as it does not get researched + investigated + compared properly... gathered data about violence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:26 AM
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no... the argument is data gets distorted and the conclusions are misleading... op conflates various topics like opposing conservatism, sexual harassment, sexual violence, androphobia, statistical parity and much more... example would be rape vs made to penetrate transformed to just women experience sexual violence... who cares about lying about contraception if we can bust men for stealthing... who cares about reciprocal violence...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:24 AM
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misleading and you know it... you could at least use recent data and pls stop your bad faith/disengenious framing you embarrass yourself before you have to move the goalpost... arrested vs convicted matters and how women slip through that "reciprocal violence" and similiar stuff aswell... gendering global human rights violations against the entire population is ridiculous but if you insist please explain how you compare a dead body of a woman vs man...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:21 AM
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if you want to shame catcalling and similiar behavior in public sure go on but do not use it as women fear to get assaulted... if you have androphobia try to avoid confirmation bias... i think you do not know how to do math or analyze data correctly but i guess that happens if lies, distorted data or misleading conclusions get spread... 0,04% rape probability + 0,008% murder probability (source fbi)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:20 AM
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note how op asks this about paternity fraud in a misleading way but not regarding false rape or sa/dv accussations... fraud is fraud but defamation is another topic and requires a specific penalty regardless of gender/sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:24 AM
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oh the same paranoia as each man could rape or kill you while we are talking about 0,04 % + 0,008 % probability happening? i know that you have a difficult time to differentiate sexual assault or sexual harassment and who actually is the perpetrator but how you look at fraud + present it in a misleading + manipulative way is hillarious... if she pushes for child support after break up or divorce -> a paternity test should be mandatory...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:56 AM
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if she pushes for child support after a break up or divorce it should be mandatory...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:53 AM
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it should be mandatory if she pushes for child support after a break up or divorce... your double standards are really irritating...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:52 AM
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ok how often do people push for a paternity test if the relationship is looking fine vs they got divorced or broke up and it is all about child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:48 AM
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ok how often do people push for a paternity test if the relationship is looking fine vs they got divorced or broke up and it is all about child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:46 AM
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paid labour vs unpaid labour id say anybody can complain about violation of what was negotiated for a relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:36 AM
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by your logic there is no hate at all if you mix up/alter definitions and how people act... do you call surveys a study all the time? looking at multiple surveys and then calling it a study with one result is interesting ive to say... specially if you pump out surveys of specific topics to do "peer review" exactly this... "There was likewise no significant difference between feminists (M =3.40, SD = 1.26) and nonfeminists (M =3.53, SD =1.14) on hostility toward men." vs "In this context, while t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:17 AM
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i would not say women hate men like op progressives hate conservatives -> hence they want to convert them conservatives hate progressives -> hence they want to convert them "In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:41 PM
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61% of U.S. women say ‘feminist’ describes them well According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump = consent to a conservative lifestyl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:16 PM
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The outcomes of being a child of divorce | @whatever because people like that from the daily wire tell them divorce is bad and it should not be a thing... Andrew Wilson Debates Male Loneliness, Single Mothers & Divorce Reasons | Whatever Debates #17 - YouTube pushing against divorce is silly but they do it anyways...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:47 PM
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the upbringing of a child lasts longer than the pregnancy + recovery from it... nobody said that a woman should continue to work in her 9th month or the next day after birth...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:01 AM
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what happens when feminists pay alimony | james sexton lawyer i do support that women choose men who earn less and men who choose women who earn more BUT at the end its about freedom of choice... the majority does not follow that if they want children which results in we are not able to reach statistical parity if people choose different lifestyles... if she earns 200k and he 75k it is pragmatic that the man takes more time off for the children... that also includes women pay men alimony or chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:33 AM
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wookiee you did miss or ignore that tradcons count as bluepillers and this fact negates your entire topic... that you present + tackle patriarchy + toxic behavior in a bad faith and misleading way would fill an entire different topic but the core issue here is how you use the term manosphere to dismiss anything you disagree on or dislike no matter if it is factual or not... now i could continue with "who lies to you and how exactly" by highlighting both sides -> the left + the right -> specially…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:59 AM
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it does not matter if we look at men or women, redpillers or bluepillers, conservatives or liberals/progressives or moderates it tends to be the same story how OPINIONS or ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE get presented as factual evidence. if people use anecdotal evidence as base for a debate there is no way to challenge it and just fallacies collide in a deadend. false cause or moving the goalpost or no true scotsman or texas sharpshooter or red herring fallacies or sealioning are inevitable in a situation l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:56 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:46 AM
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by default there is no way as people have different preferences and there are too many women who like it to get approached else no man would continue it...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:43 AM
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so what? she shows her potential partner what she appreciates or chooses to stay single simple as that...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:27 AM
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what is a feminist? real feminists advocate for the interests of people who identify as women... hypocritical feminists advocate for arbitary equity to reach equality/parity and trivialize womens agency... how to smash/dismantle the so called patriarchy/conservatism reveals their true intent... statistical parity through equity: so the question is who is the majority within feminism and why they feel the need to use the term feminist instead of egalitarian IF they claim to support equality?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 07:15 AM
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cool that would work if more women take the initiative to show men what they appreciate but to this day the onus is on men and women mainly just complain about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:57 AM

thats so silly if you think about how for example feminists justify their arbitary push for equity and that women have no agency in our society because they got indoctrinated by conservatism to be stay at home moms hence they have to smash patriarchy... no women ever did choose a conservative or moderate lifestyle with its values by free choice all of them got forced by the evil patriarchal men... now compare this to the current topic at hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:21 PM

cool now you know why clueless boys/teens fall for the redpill trap to educate them on women...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:16 PM
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what is your point? the critic is about how patriarchy or toxic behavior gets tackled + presented... pushing statistical parity/equity does not lead to equality as it violates free choice... the white feather campaign was a conservative action stunt by "Charles Cooper Penrose Fitzgerald" men + women to shame mainly men...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:40 AM
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to your comment as you claim men treat men as cannonfodder but in reality it is conservative/moderate men + women... the other person argues that women who do not volunteer for military service should have no say about anything military related... however his point about equal responsibility gives access to equal rights is flawed ill give you that...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:18 AM
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you have to add that 40 million women voted trump if somebody claims men created the patriarchy to oppress themselves and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:28 AM
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no lps is about a timeframe within abortion is possible and is more about consent to parenthood... adoption and safe haven laws are already a thing but even there men get discriminated...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:26 AM
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40 million women voted trump if you missed it... (there are more women than men who vote) idk if you are aware that this is not a gendered issue as it is more about conservatives/moderates vs liberals/progressives and their lifestyle values...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:21 AM
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sadly people are very hypocritical regarding egalitarianism, equality vs equity and setup double standards based on women count as vulnerable group/class... how to tackle and get past patriarchy reveals various bad faith values...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:16 AM
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sadly social safety nets and how they get funded + applied splits the male population and even mras... paternity leave, flexible hours, daycare and much more benefit men "specially fathers" but conservatives + moderates keep male disposability alive and some feminists support it by claiming women are a vulnerable group/class...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 06:04 AM
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Refusing to pay legally mandated child support or alimony is a serious offense. Consequences escalate from wage garnishment and seized assets to suspended licenses and, in cases of willful refusal, potential jail time. Child support debt generally accumulates interest and cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. Civil Lawsuits: A handful of states (including North Carolina, Mississippi, and Utah) permit civil "heart balm" lawsuits known as Criminal Conversation or Alienation of Affection. These allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:26 AM
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you are diluting the topic and maximum vs heavy punishment is a difference... you added multiple variables to the equation and put words in my mouth... next you claim a rapist is also a loving parent and should obviously marry his victim to raise their child... anyways if the person is really in rehab the child could be adopted again if you want to go that far... i doubt a further conversation will be constructive...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:19 PM
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revoking custody and raising the child on tax money in a public care system is maximum punishment for a woman? ok how about the death penalty or life sentence? please be serious... i question how our society tackles the best interest of the child...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:05 PM
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yea sure that will be a great idol to follow their values... well that should be debated about how we tackle the best interest of the child because in all cases it is very questionable in my opinion... if you want to talk about rehabilitation after you did something wrong sure... connected to that think about why it is not that easy to adopt a child...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:56 PM
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you could also add lie about contraception or pregnancy through rape but at the end stands what happens with the child if the woman chooses to not abort... is it really in the best interest of the child if irresponsible parents raise it? id say a fraud register and the punishment tied to the circumstances + severity... maybe losing custody and raising it in a public orphanage funded by taxes... connected to that think about why it is not that easy to adopt a child... edit: the entire "think abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:50 PM
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idk if irresponsible parents should raise children and what the best interest of the child is in that situation is debatable... that said your suggested registry sounds good...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:38 PM
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It's based on a statistically elevated risk created by systemic inequality. no... if you add sexual harassment or things you generally do not like and misrepresent systemic issues you are not able to claim anything like "overwhelming majority for xyz" because you did eliminate the category... that men and women engage in violence in different ways should be no news but just highlighting one side "men" and trivializing the other side "women" is misleading... the silly thing here is almost nobody …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:49 PM

Will you edit your message again after my reply? if the format throws around stuff or i did a spelling error or a link does not work i will do it but i see no need for that currently... The purpose of my comment was to show ridiculousness of the statement that height is a "role" but well, it flew over your heads. the purpose does not matter if the result is wrong but i will not mansplain that to you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:18 PM

This is how i found out that i'm conservative moderate. i hate traditional roles you hate traditional roles YOU have to follow but YOU have no problem to push them onto men and trivialize it. Evidence would be almost all your posts and comments about dating in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:18 PM

half of what you did write here is correct and the other half is you pushing your agenda adding misinformation... continue your crusade vs conservatism/patriarchy and redpill but stop to spread misinformation by providing distorted data or misleading conclusions from surveys...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:53 AM

angelina jolie alienated him till the children do not talk to him anymore and reverted their name from pitt to jolie... "Brad Pitt does not raise his children with Angelina Jolie primarily due to a bitter, ongoing estrangement that followed their 2016 divorce."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:49 AM

depends on the circumstances will you tell angelina jolie that brad pitt should raise his children?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:43 AM

legal parental surrender is about before the child is born safe hafen laws already exist almost nobody talks about abandoning children you raised multiple years but even then adoption is also already a thing the best interest of the child entails to not get born or not raised by irresponsible parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:39 AM

legal parental surrender is about before the child is born safe hafen laws already exist almost nobody talks about abandoning children you raised multiple years but even then adoption is also already a thing the best interest of the child entails to not get born or not raised by irresponsible parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:39 AM

legal parental surrender is about before the child is born safe hafen laws already exist almost nobody talks about abandoning children you raised multiple years but even then adoption is also already a thing the best interest of the child entails to not get born or not raised by irresponsible parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:38 AM

legal parental surrender is about before the child is born safe hafen laws already exist almost nobody talks about abandoning children you raised multiple years but even then adoption is also already a thing the best interest of the child entails to not get born or not raised by irresponsible parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:37 AM

yes seriously if the mother "parents generally" is good for nothing irresponsible she should lose custody and should not raise children...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:33 AM

well you demonstrate why people think feminists are toxic and do not fight for equality so what now? note i did not say feminism is toxic and does not fight for equality or parity i said certain people within feminism push arbitary equity...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:30 AM

https://asamblea.gob.pa/Noticias/Actualidad/TIPIFICARAN-FRAUDE-DE-PATERNIDAD-CON-AUMENTO-POR-AGRAVANTES-- https://destinopanama.com.pa/2026/04/asamblea-nacional-aprueba-ley-que-sanciona-el-fraude-de-paternidad/ https://elsiglo.com.pa/panama/nacionales/fraude-de-paternidad-ya-es-delito-en-panama-hasta-5-anos-de-carcel-JE23415628 does not look fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:23 AM
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as i said it is about "liberal/progressive" womens interests like statistical parity and not equality but you repeated it with other words...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 12:12 PM
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ok lets be honest here... real feminists advocate for the interests of "liberal/progressive" people who identify as women... hypocritical feminists advocate for arbitary equity to reach equality/parity and trivialize "specially conservative + moderate" womens agency... how to smash/dismantle the so called patriarchy/conservatism reveals their true intent... so the question is who is the majority within feminism and why they feel the need to use the term feminist instead of egalitarian IF they cl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 09:03 AM

According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue -> patriarchy <- men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or the around 40 million who voted trump... how to dismantle/smash patriarchy shows tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:32 AM
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double standards and bad faith arguments are a daily practice to engage in hypocrisy sadly... conservatives/moderates and liberals/progressives have very different dating/relationship values but both try to convert the oder side...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:05 AM
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it was also missed or trivialized that conservatives/moderates and liberals/progressives have very different dating habits -> approaching a stranger or how to initiate/escalate or how a family + relationship should look like...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:00 AM
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patriarchy = conservatism with its values feminism = advocating for the interests of people who identify as women the rhetoric + semantic games are a common tactic to distort, dilute and derail... if they would be honest and good faith it would be called misogyny + misandry -> toxic behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:38 AM
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tbh the comparison should be feminism vs conservatism...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/26 03:36 AM
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wookiee is one of said feminists you were talking about who supports public shaming of suspects instead of convicts... he is on the smash the patriarchy crusade and everything he disagrees on is part of the patriarchy/misogyny... choice/consent/agency was never an option if 40 million women who voted trump gets trivialized and translated to men created + uphold the patriarchy which infantilizes women... btw it would be nice to add a source to prove that what he spreads is misleading or lies... t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:34 PM
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just negate their claim of "xyz is accounted for" and a prime example for this is they compare fulltime vs fulltime even if it is 35 hours per week vs 40 hours per week and call it getting paid less for the same work... another good example is daycare with its salary and working conditions correlation... in conclusion the wage gap "not to be confused with pay gap - better legal protection" discussion/debate falls apart as soon as people have to do math or analyze data like in this youtube video …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:29 PM
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apparently more than you actually understand about the topic at hand... id suggest to research properly and do less trolling...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:49 AM
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if you are not able to evaluate it properly you are actively discriminate with equity and thats what we see nowadays... example if you work 35 hours and another person 40 hours per week both work fulltime but one has 140 hours and the other 160 hours per month... if both earn the same salary per hour it is obvious that 20 hours more gets compensated else why would you work more... EACH study done on this topic shows this but people just compare "fulltime" instead of total hours worked and claim …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:43 AM
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arbitary equity/affirmative action increases the issue and does not create parity...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:53 PM
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does not change the zero sum argument and i do see rarely suggestions to get past this and toxic behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:38 PM
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how much did feminism actually do for womens rights or interests compared to liberalism + technology? feminism is a broad movement with various waves and branches but lets focus on the most important points... all branches believe in patriarchy theory but how they define and tackle it to dismantle/smash it is very different... the issue here is statistical parity -> how equality vs equity gets evaluated by lackluster analyzation and distortion of data... statistical parity through equity: in sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:09 PM
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that failed if you think about rape + made to penetrate did lead to just women experience sexual violence narratives...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:26 AM
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do you understand what misogyny + misdandry is? do you understand that liberals and conservatives have a very different point of view on both terms -> patriarchy theory vs gynocentrism? the entire op is just ranting about gender/sex dynamics without understanding them...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:03 PM
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no you just want to present it like that... if conservative values are toxic -> liberal/progressive men + women get discriminated/oppressed by them... not women get oppressed by men who created the patriarchy... i would call it toxic femininity or in general toxic behavior spread by a woman... which does not get called out much and specially if the feminist label gets added to it... example ironic misandry vs ironic misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:18 AM
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in addition to that around 40 million women voted trump and feminists still push patriarchy = men oppress women instead of conservative values discriminate liberal/progressive values... women have agency and feminists + conservatives infantilize women... https://www.lwv.org/blog/report-women-voters-numbers-2024
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:15 AM
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you do not know what lps is... safe haven laws are already a thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:32 PM
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cool then you know why trump is not in jail right now...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:02 PM
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it is also telling that you circle around the issue and present cases where i would agree with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:53 PM
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you do understand the difference between he might have said/done xyz vs he said/done xyz or not? there are many examples like the doordash girl olivia henderson sexual assault case etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:49 PM
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not my issue if certain people have no clue about how to analyze data or do math properly...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:37 AM
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good to know but many many people are very hypocritical about this topic... how patriarchy + toxic behavior gets presented and tackled is proof of it... systemic issues
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:39 AM
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since apparently patriarchy + toxic behavior gets framed as mens fault -> oppressing women instead of conservative values lead to male disposability + paternalism of women "liberals/progressives affected/oppressed" and conservative men + women consent to a tradcon lifestyle... id say men get more shamed in public even if it is not proven that he did something wrong... if he is sexist or criminal sure... women get cushioned by feminists + conservatives as they count as vulnerable group/class for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:35 AM
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since apparently patriarchy + toxic behavior gets framed as mens fault -> oppressing women instead of conservative values lead to male disposability + paternalism of women "liberals/progressives affected/oppressed" and conservative men + women consent to a tradcon lifestyle... id say men get more shamed in public even if it is not proven that he did something wrong... if he is sexist or criminal sure... women get cushioned by feminists + conservatives as they count as vulnerable group/class for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:33 AM
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sure and it will stay like that because people do not understand statistical parity... statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:26 AM
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public shaming of suspects "for anything like sexism or sexual violence etc" instead of persecuted criminals...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:23 AM
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trivializing toxic behavior + excusing bad faith actions is what happened in said spaces and ill bet on you did participate... you support public shaming so idk why you have no clue about how people get punished... you support that women are a vulnerable group/class "like conservatives" so you support patriarchy... how exactly are you a feminist or feminist ally?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:20 AM
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they do not want you for whatever reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:50 AM

sooo the majority of feminists -> libfems? how to dismantle patriarchy reveals the truth... "Choice feminism is the belief that any choice a woman makes is inherently feminist simply because she chose it. It centers on individual agency and personal empowerment, asserting that no decision should be judged, whether a woman pursues a traditional lifestyle or a progressive career."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:58 AM

it becomes problematic if you think about daycare and the correlation between salary/working hours + funding/flexibility... anyways yes to parental leave!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:53 AM

on that note could you explain how to create equal opportunity properly? most people who claim men and women are not equal use statistical parity to push arbitary equity to create equal outcomes... parental leave should be the foundation of equal opportunity in my opinion... that said it becomes problematic if you think about daycare and the correlation between salary/working hours + funding/flexibility...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:46 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump = consent to a conservative lifestyle... each branch of feminism is in conflict about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:22 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump = consent to a conservative lifestyle... each branch of feminism is in conflict about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:21 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump = consent to a conservative lifestyle... each branch of feminism is in conflict about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:19 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump = consent to a conservative lifestyle... each branch of feminism is in conflict about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:17 AM
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hm that sounds similiar to the nordic model for sexwork...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:30 AM
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my issue with your entire argument is and was how equality or equal treatment gets evaluated and your issue is about fairness in society... i explained my point of view to you and wished you good luck on your crusade vs the red pill... i also already said i support a fair gender neutral society which includes abortion, social safety nets, affordable daycare, flexible working hours, parental leave and many more things... so yes i do understand the various burdens people have no matter the gender …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:39 PM
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thats funny because i did nothing of that sort but if you think so sure... if people talk about a relationship in your family or neighbourhood do you also intervene with in saudi arabia or north korea it would be way worse? see i can agree with that redpillers are hypocrits and that conservatives "men + women" are responsible for male disposability and paternalism of women "mainly liberal/progressive men + women" i also support a fair gender neutral society but thats not what your topic is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:58 PM
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dating = casual relationship in that case videos online = generating clicks with drama and controversy or gossip
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:52 AM
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if you want to create peace in the world and terminate hunger + sickness you failed with your message... this sub is all about ragebait + trolling and not serious debates... the focus here is dating and choices within it... any civilised measure can be counted as privilege...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:51 AM
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no you just do not understand the ragebait + troll nature of this sub... you push women are more vulnerable than men but complain about the measures that are taken... any civilised measure can be seen as privilege and your gender comparisons are based on double standards... you try to connect/conflate discussions about dating behavior of people in democratic countries of this sub with global issues and derail the topics... if i go by what you write you also do not understand what privilege is OR…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:49 AM
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the broader scope would be gender/sex does not matter but you failed at that by pushing women are a vulnerable group/class hence they have no privilege... your evaluation of equal is absurd and more based on statistical parity...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:07 AM
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not understanding an issue and tackling it in a way you do not like is not the same... do you even count all dead bodies and trafficked bodies globally or are you extremly selective? 5-7 million men die each year more than women... if we are talking about trafficking it is roughly 60% women 40% men but it is hard to get accurate numbers -> 18 m vs 12m... so somewhat equal numbers if you combine everything... working globally on construction sites in deadly conditions is not done by people who fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:49 AM
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dead people can not complain anymore... how do you compare dead bodies vs slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:44 AM
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my guess would be liberal/progressive women are "pump and dump material" bad and they want to settle down with moderate/conservative women...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:39 AM
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suggest how to tackle it properly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:51 AM
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i would agree on the double standards part till you talked about mansplaining and demonstrated you are exactly the same... if the topic at hand starts as zero sum game or is misleading/distorting about the issues nothing constructive comes from it... who initiates and consent are cornerstones of the dating topic but gets presented in a lackluster way... throwing all men who disagree on parts of a topic/issue into the manosphere/redpill pool is one of the first steps to discredit or trivialize...…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:21 AM
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conservatives + feminists "women are a vulnerable group/class" by a majority are responsible for this hence the issue will never be tackled properly as it requires a gender neutral approach... you can frame the topic in a good faith way or in a bad faith way and people fail horribly in different ways... systemic sexism guess how it is for boys will be boys vs girls will be girls OR teach boys to not rape vs teach girls to not rape double standards for sexual violence + domestic violence and viol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:50 AM
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conservatives + feminists "women are a vulnerable group/class" by a majority hence the issue will never be tackled properly as it requires a gender neutral approach... you can frame the topic in a good faith way or in a bad faith way and people fail horribly in different ways... examples: the doordash incident proves feminism right doordash incident "askfeminists" thoughts about the doordash girl situation "twoxchromosomes"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:41 AM
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lesubia study "sexual violence"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:34 AM
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statistics, studies and surveys tell a different story and you can guess who pushes women are the vast majority of victims...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:32 AM
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the doordash incident proves feminism right doordash incident "askfeminists" thoughts about the doordash girl situation "twoxchromosomes" do you remember the doordash girl - olivia henderson case and how people reacted to it? actually a lot of stuff happens even if people look away or trivialize it... that op is heavily biased may be true but how about you suggest how to properly tackle the topic of sa + dv in our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:27 AM
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i think you have missed the entire rape culture talk...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:22 AM
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hmmm who exactly pushed the various sa + dv models used by the police and continues to terminate innocent till proven otherwise? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:20 AM
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you do not understand how this sub and posting a debate topic here works... sensible does not get accepted as post...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:17 AM
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because people start with making it a zero sum game with their framing + actions...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:14 AM
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trivializing parts of sa + dv is pretty much the same as giving it a pass...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:12 AM
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is it really that hard to frame it like our justice system is terrible for sexual assault or violation of consent no matter the gender/sex? persecute a criminal is hard because the evidence is word vs word most of the time in such sa or dv cases and shaming suspects instead of convicts is highly questionable... protecting victims sure we have a long way to go...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:11 AM

why should anyone care about anybody past yourself? if you want to have a relationship or hookup you should care about if he is single or not... if you do not care about morality or lifestyle choices -> you answered your own question... if you want to talk about conspiracy theories some extremists spread have fun...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:05 AM

which defense? the men + women who state braindead stuff like that "taking rights away" will never be able to overthrow democracy... before that happens we all die in a nuclear winter... i would say their main talking point is the force doctrine theory -> rights + laws get vastly enforced by men... women who count as vulnerable group/class for feminists + conservatives are not able to enforce their rights + laws vs people who violate it according to them...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:33 AM
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using the same logic as op there are no misogynistic conservatives because of similiar reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:06 AM
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theory and practice are not the same thing and do not match way too often...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:03 AM
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well since feminists of all branches are in conflict about what feminism is about or what a feminist is or what patriarchy is and how to eliminate it i would say you have no clue what you are talking about or just try to ragebait for fun + trivialize toxic behavior like ironic misandry hiding real misandry... how toxic behavior or equality vs equity gets evaluated is very questionable and way too many people "including feminists" make it a zero sum game instead of advocating + fighting for liber…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:50 AM
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You cannot convince me that most men deserve women's submission "You must be open to having your view challenged. This means that you must act in a way that demonstrates that you are willing to have your view challenged." "Ignoring the main point of a comment, especially to point out some minor inconsistency" "Refusing to make concessions that an alternate view has merit" "Focusing only on the weaker arguments" "Only having discussions with users who agree with your position" does that not viola…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:50 PM
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reasonable people do not claim red flags are easy to spot no matter the gender/sex... the people who claim red flags are easy to spot do not care about prenups or paternity tests because they would ban divorce + abortion and want that women are breeding stations... they push that women just have sex in marriage... if people are hypocritical about the above 2 points no words from you will change their mind... responsibility + accountability should count for everybody on equal terms but thats just…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:37 AM
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I’m all for an abortion neutral movement, but it’s treated like “Bible”. since you stavro call abortion a genocide "i did see your posts in other subs" idk about that one... Firstly, let me tell you what I am. I am an egalitarian, because I do want both men and women to be equal in socially and law, to not be discriminated, to be free, to not be bound to any norms (from neither traditional nor progressive biases, just what they like) and to be happy. you can identify as one but at its core you a…
/r/MensRights24/05/26 06:52 PM
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it is always the same story if we talk about gendered issues in our society... rights + laws have to be enforced and conservatives vs liberals/progressives have a different opinion how to do it... this has nothing to do with women are a currency and more about everybody gets treated like a worthless meatbag because people are not able to agree on rules for a civilised society...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:31 PM
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tell that to the farmers or tribes in the entire human history... the concept of the nuclear family exists since the industrial revolution and it is all about the conservative lifestyle and values... men + women consent to this in the millions... conservative women want the men as provider + protector... do you want that conservative men + women deny how conservatism -> traditional upbringing of children works? in my opinion this topic is all about tradcon is immoral and liberal/progressive is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:56 AM
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if you stay childless your whole life and work the same hours in total maybe... look im not here to devalue teachers or nurses and so on like others did as i recognize the requirements for a healthy society... including abortion, daycare, parental leave etc... i question how we evaluate contribution to a society and id say parenthood + upbringing of children is pretty controversal if we talk about fairness and oppression... keep in mind the topic is more about misandry gets trivialized than wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:21 AM
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yes however how much and how long do you pay taxes and how much and how long do you benefit from everything that gets paid by taxes? we could go down even further regarding responsibilities for a healthy society if you want to... to dismantle fairness + oppression...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:07 AM
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i would guess this is about conservative vs liberal/progressive lifestyle and how governments or companies or families tackle the so called gender roles within a society... the framing is -> if conservatives make the rules liberals/progressives are oppressed or second class citizen and vice versa... this gets cut down to men make women second class citizen by paternalizing them because they are considered as vulnerable...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:56 AM
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ok and how do you want to tackle this if people refuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:47 AM
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i think you misunderstood my comment but i have to frame it in a disagreeing way within a debate post if you know the rules of this sub... hence i brought up how we in society tackle violence/force -> enforce rights + laws...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:49 AM
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i do not think people in this sub on average are ready to talk about equal treatment vs preferential treatment and how statistical parity gets tackled... https://np.reddit.com/r/RadicalEgalitarianism/s/vWpAujXEan way to many deny toxic behavior + try to avoid accountability for their own actions... seriously how a healthy society looks like is heavily debated and there is no consensus... in my opinion it starts with upbringing of children and lifestyle choices... rights + laws have to be enforce…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:42 AM
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nobody is safe if we go into the details so why gender it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:35 AM
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yea that is the main reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:34 AM
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the majority within feminism is libfems hence they dictate what patriarchy or toxic behavior or what a feminist is... you are way to vague... behave like what exactly? in any way toxic like humans do on average? who exactly evaluates what is toxic or healthy? how do you proof that there is a patriarchy or toxic masculinity or oppression of women? https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american-women-and-feminism https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:24 AM
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id say the issue is there is no consensus on what is healthy or toxic and the conversations around it transform into conservative values vs liberal/progressive values "double standards + hypocrisy" in our society...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:38 AM
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what is feminism? the definitions of each term vs the behaviors in practice but who cares about what a movement is... "A group of people organized around a shared idea, goal, or belief working toward a common objective."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:51 AM
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somehow it is funny + sad at the same time how they enumerate fallacy after fallacy like no true scotsman or red herring and so on... specially if they talk about other groups or movements or genders/sexes... using their logic makes no sense and is full of double standards + inconsistency... it starts with what is feminism or what is a feminist or what is patriarchy and all branches are in conflict about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:48 AM
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thats the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:27 AM

"Casey Anthony was found not guilty of murder on July 5, 2011, because the prosecution failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Jurors could not determine how 2-year-old Caylee died, and the state's case relied on circumstantial evidence, rather than direct evidence of murder. Despite her suspicious behavior, the jury did not find enough evidence to convict." accusing somebody of a crime is very different to convicting somebody of a crime with undeniable proof and you should know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 01:41 PM

i already explained it... toxic behavior gets trivialized from all sides and gender or sex does not matter here... how should people know what the truth is "differentiate good vs bad" if misinformation gets spread and contradicting statements or inconsistent moral is a daily practice? you say willfully but i would ask where do you draw the line exactly? found not guilty and avoiding prison -> leads to people claim waw because they get touched with silk gloves and their fall gets cushioned... thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:38 AM

based on which metrics can you say it seems to be bad parenting rather than society pushing that onto them? why not both? you should research and analyze this properly... in the first 10 disney movies there are 2 women and 4 men as villians but even that could be framed as discrimination... overall out of 100 villians there are 70 men and 30 women from that pool 37 men die and 16 women die... idk but it seems like putting stuff into relation + correlation are very faulty within your arguments...…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:24 AM

The "women are wonderful" effect is a psychological phenomenon where people generally associate more positive attributes -> such as warmth, kindness, and nurturing -> with women than with men. Coined in 1994, this bias suggests an overall favorable view of women, though it can perpetuate stereotypes that limit women to specific roles. could it be that you LillthOfBabylon do not understand what it "waw" is and how it gets used in practice? more positive is not the same as flawless in any way and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:43 AM
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ok how should that man respond to whatever the topic was in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:38 PM
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yes im looking at how people talk about this topic and in which direction the conversations go... bringing attention to what exactly past we have to teach about consent? you may misunderstand me here this is not a direct critic of what you did write... im questioning the perception of the issue specially within this sub and the communication around it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:30 PM
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what conversation exactly? it would be over if we just say sure 0,04% of the population are predators and teaching consent is vital but it continues like -> innocent until proven otherwise oppresses women and we live in a rape culture... who derails the sexual violence topic with misinformation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:25 PM
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some are just bad at math or analyzing data... that reciprocal violence or word vs word is hard to tackle is almost never the topic as we can see in this sub daily...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:12 PM
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being cautious and being hysterical or paranoid is very different in practice... if people spread misinformation like 1 in 6 women experience rape what do you think happens? do people actually do math and calculate how many people that would be? na it sounds + looks more scary to frame it like that instead of 0,04% "fbi data" of the population... that you do not meet a stranger at your home and generally date at public spaces is absolutely logical and fine...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:11 PM
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if we talk about numbers it is roughly 0,04% for rape and 0,008% for murder "fbi data" BUT people add various things like harassment to inflate the numbers of sexual assault... even if you use the cdc sexual violence survey data and break it down it is still a minority but they include stuff like "did your partner raise his voice against you" and similiar stuff... the lesubia study provides decent data on this topic but reciprocal violence is still underresearched... i fully understand that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:54 PM
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no true scotsman fallacy at display -> thats not real feminism is a common statement in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:17 AM
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actually you should push back on who made the decision because progressive women like to trivialize the contribution of conservative women pushing men to be disposable and voting/supporting a system like that... all the false cause fallacies have to be called out...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:13 AM
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actually your comment is on the more reasonable side for this sub... the issue is people fail at interpreting + presenting injustice or oppression because they do not understand the difference between opportunity vs outcomes... they conflate equality + equity... btw looking at this topic it seems to be somewhat similiar to if you refuse to vote you support the status quo... the status quo being conservatism/patriarchy from a feminist lens...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:31 AM
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the double standards are astounding but denying them is even more ridiculous...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:47 AM
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thats a little bit dishonest if we look at how progressives and conservatives tackle compassion or equal treatment... hypocrits on both sides exist but distorting topics and facts is not helpful for creating a healthy society... ill support egalitarian feminism but not arbitary equity feminism...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:31 AM
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you do understand how "majority" within a movement works right? feminists are in conflict about what feminism is or what a feminist is or what patriarchy is...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:25 AM
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no... the majority of feminists push statistical parity "equal outcomes" and that is not the same as equal rights or equality/equal treatment... yes there are true egalitarian feminists but they are easy to spot because they get labeled as person non grata very often... if you want to add dictatorships to the conversation you have to talk about all human rights violations... theory "equality" and practice "arbitary equity" do not match way too often... that said i support opposition to tradcons …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:12 AM
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what is interesting about listening to trolling or ragebaiting? if people raise decent points of critic it just gets ignored because drama generates more clicks/traffic...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:00 AM
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tbh i think many people have no clue what rights are and talk about privileges or inconveniences while trying to conflate that with rights... they say it is not a zero sum game but they make it one by announcement and it is all based on statistical parity or equal outcomes "arbitary equity" womens issues are apparently systemic because of conservatism "oppresses women" but mens issues are something special they inflicted on themselves...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 05:27 AM
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i agree with you on that hence pointless to fantasy about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:35 AM
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you would be suprised how humans respond to ai bots if they reach a level you see in movies like ex machina... that said we are still hundreds of years away from that...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:00 AM
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thats a waste of time anyways as it is impossible to segregate men + women on a societal level and maintain a decent quality of life... if ai bots become that advanced they will kill all humans eventually... why do you even mention sexwork if you do not care about if it is legal? legal sexwork could solve some issues and others not... advanced ai bots do not leave you when time is up or money runs out and you can program them to fullfill your desires daily... you can not compare that on equal te…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:44 AM
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you are probably blocked like me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:28 AM
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that got explained to op already in multiple posts + comments but she responds with stop the mansplaining to avoid a debate about various topics... she denies that most of her "arguments" are based on anecdotal evidence which would require to invalidate her lived experience to challenge her points within a debate... she also ignores evidence of men talking about said issues "example ncfm + thetinmen"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:14 AM
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oh please... each time somebody tackles her topics seriously she just deflects and ignores it because she does not want to talk about the issue at all... she just wants to project HER issues by spreading her anecdotal evidence which makes it impossible to argue with her points... just in case you still do not get it in order to talk about sa or dv men have to dismantle womens toxic behavior aswell... people like op just want to talk about mens toxic behavior and trivialize womens toxic behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:10 AM
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sure i could provide data for each continent or country "im not from the us btw" and you would still find something people are not happy about... can you even provide evidence that "most" women want said privileges? if i remember correctly the majority of women voted against trump "54% vs 44%" as example... the majority of men voted for trump so i could say in theory that men want to be disposable and advantage women as much as possible... that said the advantage women as much as possible part i…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 07:14 PM
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i think people generally are not able to live in harmony... just look at the fights between conservatives and liberals/progressives regarding how society should look like... EVEN within mra there are fights over this daily as we see in the mra sub...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 08:48 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. why should a liberal/progressive woman be happy about or accept "conservative" privileges they do not want in any capacity on a societal level? let them choose the bear or whatever and move on... conservative + moderate women who want said privileges are not feminists but some of them take it as granted... before somebody starts with the draft/constription "any capacity = no draft period" the i…
/r/MensRights06/05/26 07:58 AM
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what about equal treatment vs preferential treatment within society? people can not handle the truth and gender/sex does not matter...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:04 AM

very true and i agree with what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:58 AM

people who do this do it anyways if you did not notice...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:41 AM

oh shaming criminals or toxic behavior sure thats fine BUT people try to same suspects and stuff they do not like -> conservatism or liberalism...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:36 AM

not really... the men who care already know it... you should talk about teaching children/teens agency + consent that would have a better effect... what most people in this sub do is trivialize issues by diluting and distorting facts...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:34 AM
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"The female gaze is a feminist theory concept, often attributed as a response to Laura Mulvey’s 1975 male gaze theory, which examines how female characters are portrayed as subjects with agency rather than objects. It emphasizes the perspective of the female creator or spectator, focusing on internal emotion, storytelling and world building over sexualized objectification." from my point of view everybody should learn about agency, consent and values...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:10 AM
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questioning evaluation + classification you claimed a lot about intention and i want to know how you came to that conclusion... if you still do not understand ive to ask why do you gender a conservative vs liberal/progressive dispute about lifestyles/values? the male gaze is a conservative focus on reproduction and the female gaze is a feminist focus on pleasure apparently... i did read several of your comments in this post and you focus on men should control their urges regarding objectificatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:24 AM
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could you explain how male centered vs female centered is better or worse? nobody should be centered but if we are realistic we can just try to balance it somehow in a fair way... objectification + toxic behavior is bad period but people trivialize + distort it on both "conservative and feminist" sides...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:59 AM
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people probably should compare the "male gaze" vs "female gaze" or in other words conservative/patriarchal vs feminist worldview... that said how women objectify people or act toxic gets trivialized + distorted... male or female centered is both lackluster but fair and neutral seems to be opposed and interpreted very differently by both sides...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:33 AM
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"do men tell other men xyz sexist stuff" ill also add moderate people are like flags in the wind regarding this topic... your comment supported that misogyny is rampant and i asked how people differentiate toxic behavior to be able to evaluate misogyny...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:21 AM
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jump from a bridge or sleep under a bridge both implies various things regarding insulting traditional masculinity... do not get me wrong i condemn such behavior as toxic no matter if its spread by men or women BUT attacking/insulting your gender/sex is done by both men + women in various ways... again why do you gender a conservative vs liberal/progressive dispute? are there no liberal/progressive men opposing this? are there no conservative women supporting traditional values?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:14 AM
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apparently you do not know how men insult men because you would know that they say -> suck a dick or get laid or go back under your bridge or die in the gutter useless trash and so on... this is all about hurting your feelings or egos and your gender/sex does not matter... if you are small or fat etc people will insult exactly that...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:01 AM
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yea your source is basically talking about lifestyle choices but nobody is able to evaluate outcomes in a credible way... if your parents and your social circle are ultra progressive or conservative it certainly influences you but people have agency... girls + boys get told very questionable stuff during their upbringing according to studies... https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/Stevenson_ParadoxDecliningFemaleHappiness_Dec08.pdf people are still roughly equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:03 AM
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please explain why one is sexism and the other not... insulting traditional masculinity "provider + protector" or traditional femininity "nurture + support" seems to be tackled in a double standard way...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:27 AM
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i think the main reason for low birthrates is cost of living... the left + the right want to go different "opposite" paths regarding our society which leads to chaos if governments switch...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:26 AM
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how do you differentiate misogyny from "in general" toxic behavior no matter the gender or sex? if i scream toxic shit no matter if you are a man or woman and insult you where is the sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:09 AM
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i can just say conservative + moderate people date no matter the gender or sex and people try to distort or dilute the numbers to push an agenda/narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:08 AM
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indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:38 AM
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well would you respond to that post with -> why mras argue with feminists OR highlight how mras help men and ask them if thats considered misogyny? it is a common tactic to conflate for example redpill, conservatives and mras under a manosphere label BUT they will protest if the same thing is done with all the branches of feminism... id say choose your battles and use of words or evidence wisely... https://np.reddit.com/r/RadicalEgalitarianism/s/mK2YwIMYyR https://np.reddit.com/r/RadicalEgalitar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 09:16 AM
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16% if she loses the job as sole/primary provider it is a financial apocalypse... 29% if her or him loses the job in a 50-50 situation they have to tighten their budget... 55% if he loses the job as sole/primary provider it is a financial apocalypse... idk how you come to that conclusion of 70% if a minijob does not generate 50-50 of the total income... sole/primary provider = your income carries your household so in all the 71% sole/primary provider cases the other partner could have a minijob …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 01:11 AM
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i support facts... sketchy framing "like most of them" no matter the topic does make you vulnerable but if you think this stance supports feminism idc...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 12:22 PM
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some certainly and i would even say too many do it and not enough call it out but most of them do something like that is misleading in my opinion... if you would say radical feminists tend to operate like tradcons according to a faith based morality system sure... if you would say libfems push womens interests instead of equality sure...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 12:09 PM
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im just objective here and present facts on the topic... if you want me to comment on agreement or disagreement ive to say 29% egalitarian marriages and 29% women identify as liberal seems somewhat connected BUT im aware that there are liberal/progressives hypocrits... that certain feminists trivialize victimization if men are affected or are hypocrits i agree on but i disagree on most of them are the same as conservatives...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 12:01 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ The share of women who are sole or primary breadwinners in opposite-sex marriages has tripled over the past 50 years, rising to 16% in 2022 from 5% in 1972. Including co-breadwinners, roughly 45% of wives earn the same or more than their husbands, driven by increased education and labor participation. Roughly 29% of marriages are now considered egalitarian, where both …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 11:51 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative + moderate women telling "demanding" men they should sacrifice themselves for them or provide for + protect them -> become disposable gets framed by certain people "toxic feminists" as an issue men themselves created... they just deny how many women trivialize male victimization or voted trump... each branch of feminism is in conflict about what a feminists is or what the goal of f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 07:56 AM
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Australian police confirmed they are investigating a “historical sexual assault that occurred in Melbourne in 2010,” days after Ruby Rose publicized her allegations against Katy Perry. Following Ruby Rose's allegations that Katy Perry sexually assaulted her in 2010, a representative for Perry denied the claims, calling them "dangerous reckless lies" and stating that Rose has a well-documented history of making serious public accusations against others. Following her departure from the CW's Batwo…
/r/MensRights26/04/26 07:37 AM
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dude could you explain the difference between conservatism vs gynocentrism vs patriarchy?
/r/MensRights26/04/26 03:57 AM
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read your comment again and think about how you framed it...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:38 AM
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what about liberal/progressive men pointing at conservative + moderate women and how they push rigid/static gender roles -> toxic behavior which includes misogyny AND highlighting how many women choose a conservative lifestyle or dating conservative men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:30 AM
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sorry but ironic misandry to hide actual misandry "look it up in askfeminists faq" is extreme and you trivialize it...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:05 AM
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manosphere is at best similiar to the branches of feminism if we have to use that term at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:02 AM
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sorry but do you deny that there are conservative women who voted trump for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 02:58 AM
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rachel wilson is a prime example of how women push men into provider + protector gender roles and creating male disposability... each mra should know how conservatives like andrew + rachel wilson think "negative" about egalitarianism and push traditional values within a society... if you do not like gynocentrism or male disposability call people like that out...
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:55 AM
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sorry but do you understand context? the link says exactly the same you did and explains why the term has a bad name... btw you ignored the 2 other persons used as examples for redpill and the correlation how people use the term manosphere in conversations... if you have a problem with that topic argue with people who say the manosphere hates women and im not one of them...
/r/MensRights24/04/26 06:39 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/RadicalEgalitarianism/s/Bck6Opc8Yk
/r/MensRights23/04/26 04:32 AM
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support ncfm if you are from the us as example. tbh it will be quite hard to get past the mras are part of the manosphere who hate women narrative and specially for this sub. many people see advocates and activists as the same thing. anybody who talks about mens issues counts as advocate. people like me who help in an active way as social worker in foodbanks or domestic violence shelters or protest in the streets or at court against conscription are activists...
/r/MensRights22/04/26 06:29 AM
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i can certainly agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:45 PM
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aah see you are conflating redpill and tradcon as the same thing... sure criticise them for their choices leaving women vulnerable and yes she did choose bad men... who is you guys really i do not identify with conservatives or redpill and do not care about bodycount...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:38 PM
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sex with 4 different people withing serious relationships spread across several years is a high body count? idk how you define high body count but you really failed here...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:30 PM
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uhh that backfires badly... i agree that the wilsons are extremists and a prime example of how not to do several things... that said previous longterm marriages or relationships even with children is still within the usual tradcon narrative and you try to conflate it with redpill... if you want to criticise them maybe start with their conservative ideology leads to exactly what rachel wilson experienced in her life...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:04 PM
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You want to blame the media over men's rights groups who became havens for incels and those who wanted to attack the media. what does prevent toxic people to self identify as mras or feminists please explain... the major difference here is it is apparently fine to call out mras for this but it is misogyny to call out feminists for it... each branch of feminism is in conflict on basically any given topic "including what a feminist is or what the goal of feminism is" and you are sitting here point…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:47 AM
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Did feminism cause men to flock to online spaces and make millions of anti female comments? ah the usual deflection... who cares that all branches of feminism are in conflict about what a feminist is or what patriarchy is what a classic... criticising toxic feminists is not anti women no matter how often you say something else... that conservatives self identify as mras is the same thing with terfs or choice feminists within feminism... the main subs are infested on both sides...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:43 AM
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But by rape culture I mean the fact that men engage in psychological manipulation and coercion to get sex, and they just see it as normal. how do you differentiate this from flirting or approaching with honest interest in a serious relationship AND how women do a similiar thing? how does vetting in your opinion look like and can you still vet in a marriage? ironically i would call the uk a rape culture but based on very different criterias than you as it seems... Rape culture is an environment w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:02 PM
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i can provide similiar things happening in the eu but maybe you just say which country you would call a rape culture today? maybe the united kingdom with their very strange sexual violence laws? if you do not explain what you understand under rape culture i just use the dictionary definition...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:44 PM
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On July 5, 1993, marital rape became a crime in all 50 U.S. states, culminating a two-decade movement to eliminate legal exemptions that allowed husbands to sexually assault their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:36 PM
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rape culture is gone officially since 1993 and you are talking about sexual assault apologetics of toxic people but there is no evidence of it being systemic if we look at the numbers... that some criminals can not be jailed because of lacking evidence is not equal to rape culture...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 PM
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it is all about framing... conservatives will say issues are systemic if the democrats are in power and if the republicans are in power the liberals will say issues are systemic... would you say the us was a so called "rape culture - feminist term" until all 50 states criminalized marital rape by 1993, following advocacy efforts to remove legal loopholes? would you say male only conscription is a systemic issue in countries like russia, ukraine and so on? A systemic issue is a widespread problem…
/r/MensRights20/04/26 03:34 PM
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We are told by women that no means no, or that cold approaches and invading personal space is wrong. Yet we see guys who are persistent and aggressive in flirting and hitting on women are more likely to be rewarded with sex. yea pretty wild that different women have different preferences + values... conservative women reward different things than liberal women or moderate women within dating and their lifestyles lead to very different relationships... obviously if you hit on many women and know …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:04 PM
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if we are honest if people talk about this topic it moves towards to "what rights do men/women have or not have the other sex has" or "just women are the oppressed class/vulnerable" and almost nobody really tackles this topic seriously or understands statistical parity = equal outcomes... people just say be a feminist and neglect how they fail to meet the requirements to be egalitarian... that the different branches of feminism are in conflict about what feminism is or what a feminist is or what…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:35 PM
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equal protection under the law would be one example... before you say this is not true several states "example california" got sued and lost at court already...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:27 PM
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statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace owens, rachel wilson OR get rid of conservatives. liberals/progressives may not like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:25 PM
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wookiee does exactly what you complain about in your post listen to him and learn about toxic behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:32 AM
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op blames liberal + conservative dating behavior and is an atheist anti abortion libertarian... he complains about feminism because it reduces his dating pool of women...
/r/MensRights19/04/26 05:49 PM
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stavro calling abortion the biggest genocide is not much better regarding speaking bad or framing things to fit a certain narrative... specially if you complain about 0 matches on dating apps... find your moderate atheist anti abortion woman and stop to blame liberal or conservative women for their dating behavior...
/r/MensRights19/04/26 05:33 PM
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it is more likely that they retreat to feminists push the interests of people who identify as women... patriarchy is inherently built upon traditional gender norms that establish male dominance and female subordination. these norms cast men as leaders, protectors, and decision-makers, while defining women as submissive, nurturing, and caretakers. that feminists add it is all mens fault to hide all the conservative women supporting this by pushing men + women into said positions is the hypocritic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 08:58 AM
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i think her point could be if out of 100 like 1-2 are foul eggs do you abandon the movement... a similiar thing could be said about the mra movement if you are honest... choosing a different name or label does not solve the issue of toxic behavior and how we gender it...
/r/MensRights18/04/26 07:51 PM
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on average if husband and wife work there is more money in total to pay rent... this is not about our society eliminated all jobs who people work +40 hours and the average in the us if i remember correctly is 42 hours per week and in the eu it is 36 hours...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:58 PM
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i answered your question why i said what i said and i will not engage in whatever you want to setup here... learn how to evaluate a paper properly... same struggle = same hours at work and pressure at work
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:37 PM
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should be a given if men are not forced to work +40 hours per week anymore on average but i doubt conservatives see it that way if they want to go back to the good old days...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:31 PM
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However, others have noted that with the expansion of opportunities have come costs and that men may have been the beneficiaries of the women’s movement. In particular, many sociologists have argued that women’s increased opportunities for market work have led to an increase in the total amount of work that women do. Even if women were made unambiguously better off throughout this period, a richer consideration of the psychology behind happiness might suggest that greater gender equality may lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:17 PM
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ragebait and trolling disguised as debate sub basically seriously who of the people here is really willing to engage with an open mind and does not violate the rules of a debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:47 PM
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if you and women generally want to be treated as equals just be equal... nobody "even tradcons" forces you to marry or to get children but several studies indicate that the happyness of women drops if they face the same struggles as men... from my point of view more power to you and i do not see why you care about what random men think about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:57 AM
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liberal feminism is the most dominate branch and the majority in numbers of the movement to dictate the rules even if you do not like it... do you know what statistical parity is or do you push arbitary equity for eternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:15 AM
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redpillers and tradcons are not the same thing and each branch of feminism is also not the same thing so what are you talking about do you just ignore what op said? feminists say they have to smash patriarchy which leads to terminating conservatism in an inevitable way but redpill is pretty irrelevant...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:09 AM
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i really doubt it if feminists have to smash patriarchy which leads to terminating conservatism in an inevitable way...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:05 AM
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that each branch of feminism is in conflict about what a feminist is or what the goal of feminism is or what patriarchy is should show you a lot about human failure... feminism "should be egalitarianism" but in practice feminists fail to meet the requirements and push mainly womens interests their branch focuses on... seriously how can you ignore the amount of feminists who say men are the problem instead of traditional conservative values men + women engage in? that said if people talk about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:45 AM

pardon but who forces you to marry anyone or to get children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:14 PM

nice theory but why do women complain about being forced to look young and healthy by wearing make up? the evil patriarchy and its beauty standards...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:40 PM
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i just used this case because feminists jumped at karen decrow for defending frank serpico and that was the complaint about self identified feminists with their toxic behavior but i understand your point... how about david beckham getting his balls groped live on tv by a elena di cioccio a reporter? what about will smith and jada pinkett smith? mras like to use earl silverman who got abused and took his life by suicide... i think you do not have to find cases within women overpower a man to rape…
/r/MensRights17/04/26 08:08 AM
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agreed! if you want to highlight female predators or toxic behavior do not use people like terry crews if he got abused by a man please... choose a case a women abused or raped a man or boy... karen decrow did choose to help frank serpico as example in his case after he got violated... sadly you get called a misogynist if you call out toxic feminists...
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:22 AM
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ok lets be honest here what exactly happened during the johnny depp vs amber heard court case? what happened before the olivia henderson "doordash girl" court case? what happened during the frank serpico custody/child support case were karen decrow a known feminist supported him as she was a true egalitarian? ive plenty cases and you can do a search in feminist subs or if you believe this just happens online search on google how the response on each case was by self identified feminist... femini…
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:10 AM
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ok lets be honest here what exactly happened during the johnny depp vs amber heard court case? what happened before the olivia henderson "doordash girl" court case? ive plenty cases... feminists defends abusers by denying that they are the perpetrators... that there are dudes who trivialize rape does not alter this at all but we certainly have to condemn both as both is unacceptable...
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:06 AM
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the irony in posts like this is baffling... just all others are at fault never me because im perfect and so on... all about the framing to control the narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:59 AM
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framing to control the narrative thats all there is to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:53 AM
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the irony is op is complaining about it but does not want to change anything because just men are at fault...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:52 AM
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the irony is op is complaining about it but does not want to change anything because just men are at fault...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:51 AM
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posting a link to the current cdc sexual violence survey in a menslib post about domestic violence responing to a comment asking for a source on the topic without any other text in it... just as example... another would be asking for a source in a non anecdotal evidence or non personal experience post or comment on any given topic...
/r/MensRights16/04/26 08:51 AM
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i said the exact same message you brought to this sub... you also get banned by bots if you write here no matter the content... btw im very critical of this mra sub myself and get downvoted for it but i can at least voice it... https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/tpfzkIywvX
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:29 AM
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because it gets banned in said subs under their safe space policy and you are just allowed to participate if you support whatever they say...
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:18 AM
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do you go to feminist subs with the exact same message about their patriarchy theory or toxic behavior? i doubt it... sure im angry if i have a calm conversation with somebody if it sounds slightly critical or sceptic...
/r/MensRights16/04/26 07:14 AM
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nice job telling men to shut up and take it because you are not vulnerable like women... /s why do you think women are allowed to vent "specially on reddit" and men not? lets have a conversation about misogyny vs misandry and why toxic behavior and sexism gets gendered...
/r/MensRights16/04/26 06:57 AM
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tbh it is all about framing... why is physical violence seen as more severe than psychological violence - look at homicide vs suicide numbers? would you say lying about contraception or lying about sa+dv+harassment or gossip to destroy your reputation counts as violence? that most registered violent crime is done by men has various reasons but this gets used to demonize men generally in most cases... that you are not sure about "patriarchy theory" or "how people conflate sa with harassment" is q…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:03 AM
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no im one with my emotions and in a longterm relationship... the comments in this post tell a certain story and just to be clear toxic behavior should be dismantled but how people do it is very questionable...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:20 AM
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no you do not and thats disengenious... too bad that women are not consistent on that topic and give men mixed signals... if a random woman approaches a man to ask for help "no matter what it is" should he reject her with i do not want trouble? do you understand where im going with this? men are expected to do certain things with all positive and negative things attached to it including hitting on somebody or making women feel safe at all times... it is soo wild that people try to connect unwant…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:08 AM
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so hitting on you is generally dangerous and seen as harassment and in some cases sa? no wonder the cdc sexual violence survey and similiar surveys show that high numbers for women... i get that women do want to avoid certain situations but your "always a man" or "it could be dangerous" statements are just misleading if you ignore how women do sa or harassment... agency seems to be too much for certain people...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:51 AM

it is really baffling how some people like op analyze data or do math and then form conspiracy theories based on their anecdotal evidence + confirmation bias... oh i gave you millions of women identify and vote conservative but you ignore it because it does not fit your narrative of patriarchy... idk if you know what a moderate is and how they vote + decide most elections in the us... Do people not realize pro-life women exist in America? They're not a small minority, they're 30% to 40% of the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:40 AM
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it is really baffling how some people analyze data or do math and then form conspiracy theories based on their anecdotal evidence + confirmation bias... oh i gave you millions of women identify and vote conservative but you ignore it because it does not fit your narrative of patriarchy... idk if you know what a moderate is and how they vote + decide most elections in the us... Do people not realize pro-life women exist in America? They're not a small minority, they're 30% to 40% of the female po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:46 PM
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i see no evidence but you ended the discussion so we will never know which acrobatics got used... Trends in Liberal Identification Among U.S. Women - gallup news From 1999 to 2013, about three in 10 women aged 18 to 29 consistently identified as liberal, after which the figure rose (a bit unsteadily) to 44% by 2020. The percentage liberal receded slightly to 41% in 2022 and 40% in 2023. The resulting 11-point increase in young women’s liberal identification since 1999 has made what was already t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:23 PM
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made my point by ignoring what patriarchy is and how it gets presented... btw who cherry picks here if gallup uses data on young women and not all women? how many millions do you think 40% of young women are from the population? https://news.gallup.com/poll/649826/exploring-young-women-leftward-expansion.aspx edit: Do people not realize pro-life women exist in America? They're not a small minority, they're 30% to 40% of the female population. The debate on abortion isn't divided by gender, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:01 PM
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aah so it is all about redpillers in this sub are hypocrits and you just try to capture the entire manosphere in your topic to shame them all... alright... the issue here is even if men accept that certain men are violent or toxic and so on you will not accept it and create another post tomorrow with the same topic that men deny it...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:00 PM
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statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace owens, rachel wilson OR get rid of conservatives. liberals/progressives may not like that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 11:28 AM
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for the immigration topic no as ive done no in depth research on it... i can just give you stuff like... “In many ways, we turned a blind eye to some women’s use of violence, their drug use and alcoholism, and their often harsh and violent treatment of their children.” or abuse of statistics, studies, surveys, rethoric/semantics and facts and similiar things as each topic is very time consuming...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 11:00 AM
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https://theloop.ecpr.eu/ukraine-is-conscripting-its-citizens-abroad-is-that-strictly-legal/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 09:57 AM
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thats why it gets called equity or statistical parity and not equality but that gets conflated on purpose... https://www.reddit.com/r/RadicalEgalitarianism/s/sbPRuw83ZN
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 09:17 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/zxdc0iJgz8 something like this? sure but stuff like that gets ignored and data presented in misleading ways... in germany the state media got called out on it and also sued BUT the courts deflected it with bias has to be measured over a long period which is almost impossible if they add 1 credible report or article once in a while... "A woman from Bavaria Germany successfully challenged the German broadcasting fee (GEZ/Rundfunkbeitrag) at the Fede…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 08:52 AM
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could you first explain where toxic behavior of men + women starts that warrants/justifies to call it misogyny or misandry? is criticising a woman who violates consent or responsibility fair and valid or hateful? do you recognize that people like trump or tate get criticised heavily or do you just highlight people who defend their behavior? at which point does it become hateful to compare mens and womens toxic behavior? the norm can be interpreted + presented in many ways but i personally would …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:53 AM
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ok what should we do about it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 07:10 AM
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where is your evidence for all your claims here? that individual men trivialize issues or are hypocritical is not the same as the majority of a class, movement, group etc... frame issues properly and people can be consistent on several topics... do not use data in a misleading way... admitting to cheating in surveys is not the same as the total amount happening AND 7% difference is not disproportional until you frame it like men cheat 50% more likely...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:50 AM
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there are waaay more male disney villains but honestly no matter the numbers people can always interpret it like women are not taken seriously or not respected or not treated equal it just depends on the framing...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:48 AM
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if you call criticism and equal treatment hate sure then mras as a movement spread it... if you talk about individuals being toxic specify it but that would negate the entire they hate women narrative as the majority dictate the values... if you claim conservatism "patriarchy" oppresses + paternalizes women why do you gender it if there are plenty conservative women and men got pushed into disposability by them aswell? According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:42 AM
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where is your evidence for all your claims here? that individual men trivialize issues or are hypocritical is not the same as the majority of a class, movement, group etc... frame issues properly and people can be consistent on several topics... do not use data in a misleading way... for example admitting to cheating in surveys is not the same as the total amount happening AND 7% difference is not disproportional until you frame it like men cheat 50% more likely...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:35 AM
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no draft period! if you have to force people to defend values of a country they are not worth it... if you want more volunteers greatly increase salary for soldiers... seriously what do you do with 25k a year if you volunteer? if it is peace use your soldiers in different areas of society... do not neglect veterans if their active duty ends...
/r/MensRights15/04/26 05:32 AM
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refusing to do something is also worth criticising if we talk about accountability or responsibility and equal treatment vs preferential treatment in society... distorting or diluting issues is also worth to be criticised -> patriarchy "conservatism", toxic masculinity and so on is just gendered toxic behavior or sexism which ignores one side "womens toxic behavior" almost fully... specially seen in your posts + comments jumping from one fallacy to the next... conservative men + women oppress an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:48 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative women putting men at the top to push them to be leaders does not count as it is all mens fault... patriarchy = conservatism and men + women created, supported and enforce it till this day... you can criticise the manosphere, mras or men but do it properly and not in a misleading disengenious way... same story for feminism if they trivialize toxic behavior from women like ironic mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:41 AM
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op confuses something here about mras and who they blame for several issues... that men dominate politics is based on women refusing to join political parties and we talk mainly about conservative women who push men to be leaders to put them on top -> aka patriarchy = conservatism with its structures... op's typical disengenious double standard thinking + likeminded people trivializing certain issues and blowing others out of proportion... i think some people are terrible at analyzing data and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:18 AM
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tbh before this happens the us will have a republican woman as president in my opinion
/r/MensRights14/04/26 02:01 PM
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Yea exactly, why are most people so obsessed with putting other people down? The best outcome from a men's rights perspective is not a womens draft but abolishing the draft altogether. I don't know why I'm subbed to men's rights at all at this point. the upvote and downvote ratio paints a certain picture of this sub indeed...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 12:11 PM
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double the salary of soldiers and more volunteer... currently 25k a year for e-1
/r/MensRights14/04/26 11:26 AM
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to call out hypocrisy and advocate for men
/r/MensRights14/04/26 11:10 AM
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how many said no draft period and how many upvoted this post + commented to support op? another example would be how sa + dv gets tackled... no i do not but i have eyes + ears and called it out... which comments exactly got downvoted in this post and also in similiar posts? this is no discussion this is a farce + snow job...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 11:03 AM
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because it is obvious how conservatives get a pass in this sub if you look at what gets pushed that harms men and that you do not call that out is a shame... do you really think that our top priority should be equal conscription/draft instead of where are all the people who fight for equality while we have voluntary forces or no draft/conscription period? now look at what this post pushes... why are you arguing with me instead of calling op and people supporting this out?
/r/MensRights14/04/26 10:28 AM
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i adressed it and i said "maybe" if anybody ever tackles it... stop to harm men by supporting conscription... actually quite sad that you jump at this "maybe" but ignore the message of this post... no to conscription period!
/r/MensRights14/04/26 08:30 AM
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to call out hypocrits and actually help men instead of harming them... some people here are so delusional that they do not see how their behavior harms men + women... what do you think will happen if pro conscription posts like this get shared? yes it is pro conscription do not trivialize it... no to conscription period!
/r/MensRights14/04/26 08:25 AM
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thanks for your service and calling this crap out
/r/MensRights14/04/26 06:43 AM
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you may have noticed that op is pro conscription? i said IF anyone abolishes anything it will NEVER be the republicans...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 05:56 AM
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you may have noticed that op is pro conscription? i said IF anyone abolishes anything it will NEVER be the republicans...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 05:32 AM
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the so called patriarchy includes conservative women who push men to be leaders and to paternalize liberal people no matter the gender or sex... if you insist to participate here please oppose the draft period...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 05:07 AM
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if that would be the headline of this post or women are hypocritical about equality if they refuse voluntary military service it is another story... that said it is not op framed it in a pro conscription manner with a disengenious alibi in its text...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 04:31 AM
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such a disgrace for mras while ncfm fights for us at court to abolish it...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 03:53 AM
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such a disgrace for mras while ncfm fights for us at court to abolish it...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 03:53 AM
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probably a waste of time to argue this as this sub would have to battle all the conservatives flodding it... that the republicans will never abolish forced military service is just convenient but who cares that just the democrats would maybe eliminate it... the upvote and downvote ratio of this post paints a certain picture of this sub...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 03:40 AM
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probably a waste of time to argue this as this sub would have to battle all the conservatives flodding it... that the republicans will never abolish forced military service is just convenient but who cares that just the democrats would maybe eliminate it...
/r/MensRights14/04/26 03:39 AM
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conservative women will not do that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:25 AM
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you confuse something here about mras and who they blame for several issues... that men dominate politics is based on women refusing to join political parties and we talk mainly about conservative women who push men to be leaders... mras are fully aware that conservatives are responsible for male disposability and paternalism of women... the issue here is conservatives use the mra label to infiltrate the mra movement to blame feminism for mens struggles... anybody who speaks about mens struggles…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:13 AM
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bread and circuses...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:05 AM
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exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:10 AM
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so something we have to invent first to avoid corruption...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:08 AM
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sure and who gives this to everyone? the government?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:05 AM
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could you explain how any other system can not be abused by the people who enact + enforce the rules? any system needs regulation or fails...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:59 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. add that women put men at the top by refusing to step up as we can see within political representation...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:56 AM
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you can not prevent that other people benefit in any way because rules or restrictions have to be enforced and who does this exactly? the way you argue about this you could say similiar things about voting or abortion...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:38 AM
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based on which evidence? what is your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:28 AM
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would agree with you on public healthcare but then i look at conservative vs liberal policies and how they destroy what the other party in power enacted...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:11 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:33 AM

even if we look at twoxchromosomes sub with its million members it is still not representative as just certain people gather there... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:26 AM

even if you look at twoxchromosomes sub with its million members it is still not representative as just certain people gather there... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:00 AM

even if you look at twoxchromosomes sub with its million members it is still not representative as just certain people gather there... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:55 AM
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if conservative or moderate women complain about that it is fine as it is part of their lifestyle but it is another story if we talk about liberal women complaining about it... if conservative or redpill men complain about that it is on them as it is part of their lifestyle but it is another story if we talk about liberal men complaining about it... people are different...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:21 PM
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certainly lots of women refuse to inititate because they think they do not have to which upholds traditional gender norms but then complain about the consequences...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:39 PM
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there are studies specifically focused on intimate partner violence (IPV) within lesbian relationships that distinguish it from abuse perpetrated by past male partners. research indicates that approximately two-thirds (67%) of lesbians who experience intimate partner violence report that the perpetrator was a female partner, separating these experiences from heterosexual or past male abuse. try again... oh and please do not ignore trans or queer partnerships that fill up the rest... btw we were …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:10 PM
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disagree with both of you here... gay men have higher standards than lesbian women on average according to various studies about violence or divorce and so on... the issue here is men and women talk past eachother...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:36 AM
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disagree with both of you here... gay men have higher standards than lesbian women on average according to various studies about violence or divorce and so on... the issue here is men and women talk past eachother...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:34 AM
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candace owens and andrew tate on men being brainwashed | candace owens interview Rachel Wilson vs Feminist DEBATE On FAKE Equality And Feminism "whatever podcast clip" DEBATE: Feminist Women Vs Non-Feminist Women conservative woman about intersectional feminism - german bundestag "ai translate active" thats what conservative women say and i doubt you like it... specially if we take a look at lesbian + gay relationships and data about it like dv or divorce -> it highlights this is a communication…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:32 AM
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im in a long lasting relationship but i know the data + evidence on this topic and outliers do not change that...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:08 AM
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idk how you come to the conclusion that this topic is mainly about cold approaching and not warm approaching... women still refuse to warm approach by a large majority which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:06 AM
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idk how you come to the conclusion that this topic is mainly about cold approaching and not warm approaching... women still refuse to warm approach by a large majority which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:05 AM
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which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:05 AM
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idk how you come to the conclusion that this topic is mainly about cold approaching and not warm approaching... women still refuse to warm approach by a large majority which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:03 AM
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idk how you come to the conclusion that this topic is mainly about cold approaching and not warm approaching... women still refuse to warm approach by a large majority which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:01 AM
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idk how you come to the conclusion that this topic is mainly about cold approaching and not warm approaching... women still refuse to warm approach by a large majority which highlights that they uphold traditional gender norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:58 AM
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cool but the majority still refuses to do so and thats specially sad if we look at liberal woman who claim they want equality but uphold traditional norms... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:51 AM
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i think you mixed up some stuff here... vawa is based on the assumption that the vast majority of victims are generally women and all other sources provided here show that this is bullshit...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 07:09 PM
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the lesubia study is about domestic violence... dr. campbell is talking about how vawa got introduced and most laws in favor of women regading violence are similiar globally... just look at spain or india for example...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 07:01 PM
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So it makes sense to study this and try to determine the causes. But clearly most of the time when people argue about a pay gap at least a significant group of them are only talking about lower pay for the same job in the same company, which is only one consideration and which has been, if not completely solved, at least significantly improved in past decades. I would mostly like for people to be able to talk about the same thing. ofcourse it has to be researched properly and nobody with working…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:37 PM
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democracy is just as good as the education within it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:36 PM
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i see no questionmark in your comment... if you want people to answer hypothetical questions and read your mind i can not help you...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:56 PM
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are you sure you are really free today? the slavery just has another face now...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:47 PM
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is conservative not enough of a distinction/differentiation? there are black conservatives like candace owens... cool i know bell hooks BUT the majority of the movement dictates the rules and goals of the movement and that would be libfems but you can call them white feminists if that makes you happy...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:46 PM
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you can also add that "127216 total = 0,04%" of the population but that does not sound dramatic enough hence they present it in different ways... sometimes they also add catcalling and harassment to inflate the numbers but do no such thing for men regarding lying about contraception or violating drunk men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 03:42 PM
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Sort of, its not a helpline vs not now, but its still "unmet needs" vs "whatever the cause abuse is never justified." https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+my+wife+yelling+at+me&oq=why+is+my+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQABixAxiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIKCAcQABixAxiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABDIKCAoQABixAxiABDIHCAsQABiABDIHCAwQABiABDIHCA0QABiABDIHCA4QABiABNIBCDQ3MDhqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QVC0tvxYz6VWPEFQtLb8WM-lVg&client=ms-android-kddi-jp-revc&sour…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 03:35 PM
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“In many ways, we turned a blind eye to some women’s use of violence, their drug use and alcoholism, and their often harsh and violent treatment of their children.” quote Dr. Anne Campbell (1951–2017) "A Mind of Her Own: The Evolutionary Psychology of Women" (2002) The role of female perpetrators and the experiences of male victims within the Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) sector is a subject of ongoing debate, with research indicating both systemic, gender-based approaches and calls fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 03:34 PM
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listen to this speech from german bundestag and tell me conservatives globally do not support male disposability and paternalism of women ai translate into english is active... Donald Trump has frequently framed his relationship with women voters by positioning himself as their "protector," a rhetoric that has been interpreted by critics and some observers as portraying women as vulnerable or in need of safeguarding by paternalizing them. Trump stated his intention to protect the women of the co…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 03:31 PM
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ha so we actually agree and you misunderstood my point...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 02:34 PM
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if you would not that be disengenious about it i would agree with you... i know plenty about suffragattes because i researched it... id suggest to read more about it and how women voted before 1920s... How Did Women Gain and Lose the Vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:17 PM
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pay gap and wage/earning gap is not the same thing... people conflate numbers which creates confusion...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:26 PM
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the pay gap is caused by sexists who pay women less, fire pregnant women, avoid to hire women who could become pregnant, deny parental leave, deny flexible hours and so on hence we need better legal protection for everybody... the issue is people use the wrong % numbers for this issue... the wage gap or earnings gap is caused by children and lost working hours at a paying job how you described it... that said if you look at daycare and how it gets funded -> there is a clear correlation between t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:25 PM
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Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. you seem to ignore how CONSERVATIVE men + women did all of this by ignoring how 36 million women voted trump... you also ignored how each branch of feminism is in conflict about the goals of the movement and what a feminist is... jfyi liberal men + women push for a fair gender neutral society AND conservative men + women oppose it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:14 PM
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you conflate and intermix various things here... women just got the vote because liberal men pushed for it alsonside with liberal women and both faced opposition from conservative men + women... maybe investigate history properly and do not hide what conservative women did and still do... remember 36 million women voted trump...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:09 PM
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Nevertheless, at least from what I’ve experienced - having discussed and argued such things with MRAs over the last 10 or so years - they aren’t interested in equality for men AND women. how about you explain how a fair gender neutral society looks like AND how feminists push statistical parity instead of equal opportunity? maybe you have a chip on your shoulder regarding how fairness looks like... Let’s not even get started on such men who happily support restricting or banning abortion because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:04 PM
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Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. you seem to ignore how CONSERVATIVE men + women did all of this by ignoring how 36 million women voted trump... you also ignored how each branch of feminism is in conflict about the goals of the movement and what a feminist is...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:01 PM
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Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. you seem to ignore how CONSERVATIVE men + women did all of this by ignoring how 36 million women voted trump...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:59 PM
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seriously how do you come to the conclusion this is a gendered problem? Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. CONSERVATIVE men + women do what you are talking about but you seem to deny how 36 million women voted trump to blame men for everything conservatives do,,,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:57 PM
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Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. screw them...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:53 PM
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hmm let me thingk about it for a sec... how did human rights get created and enforced? not sure... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:52 PM
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"How about we elect progressive politicians who want to establish strong social safety nets?" that is probably one of the few things we agree on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:50 PM
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divorce lawyer shares insights "james sexton" What Representing Men in Divorce Taught Me About Fatherhood | Marilyn York | TEDxUniversityofNevada cool i know several women who abused their children and men... very helpful comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:49 PM
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i would agree with you TILL we talk about what a feminist is and what feminism is about... each branch is in conflict regarding this... that op failed to differentiate feminists from tradcon or moderate women is on him but then again who trivializes toxic behavior of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:44 PM
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paternalism and disposability are two sides of the same coin... stop to trivialize how conservatism hurts men + women...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 12:38 PM
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disagree... paternalism and disposability are two sides of the same coin... stop to trivialize how conservatism hurts men + women...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 12:36 PM
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Based on 2024–2025 data, American political ideology is roughly divided, with about 35% identifying as conservative and 35% as moderate, while 27% identify as liberal. if the steps towards a fair gender neutral society includes for example the democrats would care more for boys and mens issues to prevent a political drift towards the republicans we would have less problems... harris herself said there is nothing that violates mens bodily autonomy... sadly stuff like that gets used as propaganda …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 10:09 AM
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reaction: how conscription in the ukraine-war correlates with conscription in germany! just for you blackmamba4554... if you understand german and do not need ai translate i can provide many more like this...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/26 09:23 AM
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it would be such a blessing if your enthusiasm would call out all the hypocritical conservatives infesting mra subs to push questionable narratives to cement the disposability of men and that women have to be paternalized... look at all the excuses for conservative policies hurting men within this sub and specially if elections are around the corner... conservatives will never end conscription or selective service and legal parental surrender will never be a thing under them...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 09:13 AM
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Sort of, its not a helpline vs not now, but its still "unmet needs" vs "whatever the cause abuse is never justified." https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+my+wife+yelling+at+me&oq=why+is+my+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQABixAxiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIKCAcQABixAxiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABDIKCAoQABixAxiABDIHCAsQABiABDIHCAwQABiABDIHCA0QABiABDIHCA4QABiABNIBCDQ3MDhqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QVC0tvxYz6VWPEFQtLb8WM-lVg&client=ms-android-kddi-jp-revc&sour…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 09:03 AM
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“In many ways, we turned a blind eye to some women’s use of violence, their drug use and alcoholism, and their often harsh and violent treatment of their children.” quote Dr. Anne Campbell (1951–2017) "A Mind of Her Own: The Evolutionary Psychology of Women" (2002) The role of female perpetrators and the experiences of male victims within the Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) sector is a subject of ongoing debate, with research indicating both systemic, gender-based approaches and calls fo…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 08:01 AM
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sooo would you say what you provided are structural or systemic issues like conscription/selective service we have to deal with? idk if you did understand the point at all...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 05:29 AM
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please think before you speak and write... i doubt you did take a look at the methodology... good luck pushing back against feminists your way...
/r/MensRights11/04/26 05:26 AM
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nobody wants to build a wall -> ddr if you let them soothe you it will be too late...
/r/MensRights10/04/26 07:50 PM
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try to look at it from another perspective... do you have any better study supporting victimized men which negates the feminist narrative "cdc survey based" that the vast majority of abusers are men? do you deny that there are any systemic issues and why do you avoid to state your position?
/r/MensRights10/04/26 07:03 PM
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ok so teachers violating boys at school or men getting arrested under the duluth model is not systemic aswell? somehow i doubt it...
/r/MensRights10/04/26 06:11 PM
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Trump drew criticism for referring to some sexual assault + domestic violence incidents as "a little fight with the wife." He suggested that these "things that take place in the home" should not necessarily be counted in official city-wide crime statistics, arguing that they are over-reported to make crime rates look worse than they are. please explain this then... that feminist frame it in a disengenious way does not negate the fact that stuff like that can be structural if courts and police de…
/r/MensRights10/04/26 11:39 AM
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Sort of, its not a helpline vs not now, but its still "unmet needs" vs "whatever the cause abuse is never justified." https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+my+wife+yelling+at+me&oq=why+is+my+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQABixAxiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIKCAcQABixAxiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABDIKCAoQABixAxiABDIHCAsQABiABDIHCAwQABiABDIHCA0QABiABDIHCA4QABiABNIBCDQ3MDhqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QVC0tvxYz6VWPEFQtLb8WM-lVg&client=ms-android-kddi-jp-revc&sour…
/r/MensRights10/04/26 11:02 AM
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i guess the institutional or systemic part is mainly about a conservative government "generally conservative leaning people" supporting certain questionable behavior regarding this topic... if certain people excuse rape of boys with "lucky boy" or "why was it not me" OR compare women with infants who should not vote OR calling anyone weak like a girl, p*ssy etc OR deny + laugh about men who experience domestic violence + sexual assault OR conscription/selective service instead of volunteer force…
/r/MensRights10/04/26 10:57 AM
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-81567-9 https://www.psypost.org/women-who-hate-men-study-finds-similarities-in-gendered-online-hate-speech-2026-03-26/ "In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape." somehow this does not suprise me... "As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:39 PM
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Protesting for men's issues WORKS! Germany scraps the new requirement to notify the government when leaving the country for longer! sue the crap out of governments...
/r/MensRights09/04/26 03:00 PM
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could you explain how women or men would not be oppressed or discriminated based on gender/sex under communism or socialism? who exactly enforces this and how please in detail...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:58 PM
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sue + protest the crap out of governments! german conscription and its suspension: Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices became more frequent. Many young men refused "total" (TKDV), meaning both military and civilian service, in order to obtain legal clarification. This "Total" approach was used to force legal clarification, as the system was designed to have a replacement service available for those who objected to armed service. The le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 02:42 PM
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And realistically, you can't take people's agency away and expect good outcomes for those children. how has this to do with taking away agency if you hold them accountable for their choices? But a lot of that has to do with the real world as well. There are not enough adopted parents to take these children after a certain point. People who want to adopt want nice, healthy newborns. They don't want the 10-year-old who's seen a lot of shit and will most likely inherit their parents schizophrenia. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:11 PM
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who said we should take their agency away? my point was people infantilize women and find excuses for accountability... i said "properly talk about the topic" and not spreading confirmation bias in an echo chamber... if we would really dismantle the best interest of the children we would have to talk about at which point irresponsible parents should not raise children at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:40 AM
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partly agree... you should investigate where does misogyny start "heavily researched with a lot of data" VS where does misandry start "underresearched with lackluster data"... then look at the comments how people treat various cases like the not so long ago doordashgirl "olivia henderson" incident...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:29 AM
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almost nobody wants to talk about upbringing of children properly because it would include to critically look at womens agency and unliteral decisions within any form of relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:25 AM
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studies "paradox of declining female happiness" about happiness provide very interesting information regarding this topic... seems like equal treatment also leads to equal bad outcomes but people still deny this for men specially if we look at upbringing of children...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:22 AM
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have you never heard of the doordash girl "olivia henderson" incident? people blame people if it is convenient for them and their narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:19 AM
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have you never heard of the doordash girl "olivia henderson" incident? people blame people if it is convenient for them and their narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:19 AM
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have you never heard of the doordash girl "olivia henderson" incident? people blame people if it is convenient for them and their narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:18 AM
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-81567-9 https://www.psypost.org/women-who-hate-men-study-finds-similarities-in-gendered-online-hate-speech-2026-03-26/ "In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape." somehow this does not suprise me... "As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misan…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 10:03 AM
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Law No. 6284, adopted in 2012, is Turkey’s primary legislation for protecting women, children, and family members from domestic violence and stalking. It provides swift protective measures (restraining orders, removal of abusers from homes) and preventive measures without requiring evidence of abuse. Authorizes police, prosecutors, and family courts to issue swift orders (e.g., removing the perpetrator from the home, prohibiting approach). Includes mandatory treatment or education for perpetrato…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 09:59 AM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of any government who does stuff like that... ncfm in the us currently does it... rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System Following Congress's failure to act, in May 2024 t…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 09:52 AM
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explain how a fair gender neutral society is a zero-sum game OR are you talking about disengenious people who engage in victim olympics + oppression score keeping to pour oil into the gender war fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:45 AM
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it is an extreme stretch to say men just did get rights if we think about how many died and still die to create, protect and enforce said rights... institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:01 AM
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institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? the main reason why any men movment does not take off is opposition from feminists and conservatives combined...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:00 AM
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that is fair at least
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:54 AM
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for starters advocates and activists are not the same thing... could you please answer how they get mad about advances in womens rights "not interests" and differentiate that from conservatives that obviously flood mra + feminist subs and abuse the label mra or feminist for questionable narratives? if you as a woman "or anybody really" come to a mra sub and claim men have all the rights hence your movement is useless and you are losers what do you expect? how do feminists react if somebody says …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:28 AM
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how about you give some examples or credible evidence how the majority of men and not individual mras or liberals "not talking about conservative or redpill men" argue against womens rights instead of supporting them? the entire topic is basically about conservative values vs liberal values and cherry picking bad actors + distorting/diluting how men already tackle men's issues just because you do not like how they do it... while ignoring that women do the exact same thing you are complaining abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:22 AM
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how about you both give some examples how the majority and not individual mras argue against womens rights instead of supporting them? mras are pro choice, pro parental leave, pro equality, pro fair gender neutral society... the main issue that comes up is about statistical parity... why do feminists and mens rights activists fight instead of brainstorming about solutions? The goal is to give mens rights activists an easy resource to refute claims about mens rights activism not caring about issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:14 AM
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what do you say about equal protection under the law regarding violence in general? as one example california got sued by ncfm because they refused to tackle the issues properly and spent most money + time on womens issues... https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/30/governor-newsom-issues-executive-order-to-support-young-men-and-boys-address-suicide-rates/ https://ncfm.org/2025/05/news/discrimination-news/discrimination-against-men-news/ncfm-v-california-noted-in-u-s-state-commissions-on-men-and-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:59 AM
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is op talking about men in this sub or men generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:55 AM
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i would not go that path at all... i would investigate the most common "counter" arguments they have for women do more unpaid labour and question them after this which evidence they have for this and how they want to tackle this issue... they might talk about anecdotal evidence or some studies but as soon as they try to explain how to tackle it "men should pay their wifes or the government should pay for chores etc" we are heading towards people do not understand the correlation between cost, av…
/r/MensRights09/04/26 06:49 AM
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dude i researched the topic and im aware that various things do not get counted properly or extremly overestimated on purpose to create a certain narrative... if you want to tackle this topic build a rock solid foundation which makes it almost impossible to argue against... if you just say men do repairs and mow the lawn etc they will respond a certain way as they are already prepared...
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:24 PM
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i think you did not take a look at all and just dismissed what i said... the data here shows men do more and that women have less leisure time because they probably need more time for the same work...
/r/MensRights08/04/26 09:04 PM
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it should be no suprise that liberal/progressive men help more in the household than conservative men based on the nuclear family structure and its gender roles. if all liberal men already do 50/50 "spoiler they do not yet" but conservative men do nothing "exaggerated" most statistics, studies, surveys about unpaid labour are more or less worthless. men and women have to step up their game in various different areas. yes indeed the difference while single is tiny but it would be nice to show how…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 01:56 PM
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Who knows. It can be a month. It can be a year. But that shift happens a month is whatever okay. He was chasing feelings and wasn't intentional. Sometimes a year. That is real too and can mask for some time until it all comes bubbling up. I would say dating is a constant game of committal chicken. tbh it gets hard to differentiate this from just losing interest and dumping you no matter the gender or sex... this includes divorces if we look at the current statistics vetting never ends as it seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:40 AM

you mean if they follow sharia law and sacrifice themselves for allah and the dictator interpreting the quran in questionable ways? their point of view about authority to protect women by paternalizing them and disposabbility of men similiar to radical conservatism in the us? if they refuse or want to leave islam they get hunted down and killed... i would not call that privilege... i would call that coercion... now if you want to talk about the men AND women who follow this voluntary both enslav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:26 AM
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oppose the conservative gender role structure "on a societal level" to terminate male disposability frame it like you fight/advocate for a fair gender neutral society sue the crap out of governments within groups for lawsuits "ncfm" if they violate human dignity
/r/MensRights08/04/26 05:06 AM
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social safety nets matter
/r/MensRights08/04/26 05:01 AM
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at which point the shift happens? after 1 week... after 1 month... after 1 year... an actor can play his role well for a certain time but at which point does it become more than an act and genuine interest or feelings? sometimes i do not understand what people do if they meet somebody and try to get to know that person... obviously if somebody has absurd skills "specially a silver tongue" that person honed them for a purpose... socially inept men "depending how you define it" are basically the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:40 AM
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gender war basics yea it is stupid...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:03 AM
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how do you differentiate valid critic "specially regarding accountability" and sexist prejudice? how do you evaluate said people do this just to you or women vs everybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:44 AM
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nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:38 AM
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they can not prove that they estimate it similiar to the cdc sexual violence survey hence not reliable
/r/MensRights07/04/26 05:08 PM
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i really really hope you did not consider almost all cases who could not get proven as false rape accusations... how did confirmed malicious get evaluated? According to National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) data, approximately 8-10% of reported rape cases in India are classified by police as false or mistaken. Conversely, the vast majority are registered as genuine, though over 90% of total sexual assaults may go unreported. "False" cases often include cases of broken promises to marry rather tha…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 02:05 PM
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no worries i understand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:22 PM
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Where in the non-democratic/dictatorships is it better to be a man than in a democracy? I mean besides for the dictatorships in power: what’s so great about them for guys? nowhere and nothing but im not op so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:18 PM
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how about we start with where toxic behavior starts and at which point consent gets violated from all point of views? how does equal treatment or preferential treatment look like? people do not like it one bit to look into a mirror and have to concede their own bias or toxic behavior. btw any democratic country "the west basically" is better for everybody than whatever is left "mostly dictatorships" or anarchy but i guess that would be debatable...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:14 PM
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the west in that context basically means all real democratic countries to exclude dictatorships or countries in anarchy... if we are honest any democratic country follows human rights elevates the quality of life... if you want to go into the details of who suffers more please exlain how you evaluate a dead body of a man/boy vs woman/girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:10 PM

vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:05 PM
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id say death is a pretty severe outcome but dead people can not complain anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:58 PM
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tremendous how some people like op ignore how supply and demand works regarding media or consumerism generally...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:54 PM
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If women’s struggles are invisible, minimized, or dismissed, then all that remains visible is the outcome. And often, that outcome includes things men want. From that limited view, it’s very easy to build a picture where women seem privileged, because the costs, risks, and pressures behind those outcomes are not being seen or taken seriously. What you end up with is a skewed version of reality that looks simple from the outside, but is not simple at all when you’re actually inside it. Bidirectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:46 PM
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i will tell you how feminism got built up was pretty clever with its waves + branches because they are able to deflect any critic by saying this is not true feminism or not a true feminist... this completly ignores that the majority dictates the rules + goals -> liberal feminism... all you need is a little bit of populism and confirmation bias based on anecdotal evidence or poorly analyzed data...
/r/MensRights07/04/26 11:05 AM
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"In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape." somehow this does not suprise me... "As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry), despite being both widespread and detrimental phenomena, misandry does not have the same level of institutional and systemic support as misogyny, in nearly …
/r/MensRights07/04/26 10:59 AM
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in a nutshell each branch of feminism is in conflict regarding several topics and what feminism is about or what a feminist is... the majority dictate the rules and goals... Liberal feminism (often referred to as mainstream feminism) is widely considered the largest and most influential branch of feminism, particularly in Western contexts. women identifying as feminists but not following the core values or acting toxic gets covered up...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:12 AM
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i would call it toxic femininity or in general toxic behavior spread by a woman... which does not get called out much and specially if the feminist label gets added to it... example ironic misandry vs ironic misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:47 AM
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that is extremly flawed if women almost never ask for a date and expect men to initiate aka traditional values...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:46 AM
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in a nutshell each branch of feminism is in conflict regarding several topics and what feminism is about or what a feminist is... the majority dictate the rules and goals...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:38 AM
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I still dont think that most feminists are the ones doing what you talk about in your post. is the liberal or choice feminism part not the largest one? Liberal feminism (often referred to as mainstream feminism) is widely considered the largest and most influential branch of feminism, particularly in Western contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:37 AM
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in a nutshell each branch of feminism is in conflict regarding several topics and what feminism is about or what a feminist is... the majority dictate the rules and goals...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:33 AM
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My point here is. If a woman has a narrow idea of male sexuality. She is far more likely to have a narrow idea of male gender roles in general. For examples, more likely to expect men to pay on dates, be a provider, be a protector, or approach her first. if we burn down the "oppressive" system what do you think will happen and how will people evaluate vulnerability, competence, equal treatment or preferential treatment and so on? The fact that men still face more stigma for being bisexual, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:24 AM
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outdated + faulty and the new 2023/2024 survey aswell -> the lesubia study is way better made... https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 06:33 PM
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could people please start with where toxic behavior like misogyny + misandry starts and explain what the manosphere or feminism is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:29 PM
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If women want to be with someone who is a complicated puzzle that is difficult to figure out, then they should date other women. that was a good one but data about lesbian relationships show the issues still remain... btw to debate this topic we would have to refute op's personal experience which is impossible... this topic should have been a discussion about male behavior within provided anecdotal evidence would have been helpful... if op thinks she is the prize and has to put in zero effort bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:22 PM
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to debate this topic we would have to refute her personal experience which is impossible...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:20 PM
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to debate this topic we would have to refute her personal experience which is impossible...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:19 PM
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men would have good points but op negated any attempt to debate the topic because the base is anecdotal evidence... to debate this topic we would have to refute her personal experience which is impossible...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:18 PM
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it is sexist but op also uses a red herring fallacy to distract from nobody can refute the points she made within a debate because of several reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:15 PM
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I've had no issue with being emotionally vulnerable with my partners and if I met someone who wasn't ok with it, I'd dump her immediately. I didn't give any reason for why I've dumped women in the past, you just falsely assumed why I had dumped them. are you serious? And if my anecdotes don't count who said they do not count generally? i said personal experiences are not factual you can verify... you can present them as what they are personal experiences... that you do not understand the issue h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:02 PM
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what are you talking about? you yourself do not count your anecdotal evidence for toxic behavior of women as you showed with your last comment... i said do not present your anecdotal evidence as fact which is something completely different...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:33 PM
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hm there might be a pattern op follows but im not quite sure yet after all her posts and comments in this sub... it is a pity that most of that is made pretty personal which denies most people to engage with the topics because you would have to refute anecdotal evidence within a DEBATE... a discussion about male behavior would be another story...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:16 AM
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In their victimblaming men deny other men the agency and ability to make decisions, have character I cannot count how many times I wanted to point out certain patterns in men’s behavior. Things like being lazy, flaky, or simply not that interested... No real agency, no independent preferences, just reactions to whatever is in front of them. the irony... you know what screw those guys you are right there are some men how you describe them...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:11 AM
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it is pretty sad how conservatives flood this sub and use the mra label to push very questionable takes... WestHistorians you have my full support and agreement...
/r/MensRights06/04/26 10:59 AM
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here is a list of how conservative policies hurt men "inb4 people highlighting in detail how liberals hurt men to excuse + distract" which is a little bit disengenious and biased... specially if we think about what republicans do regarding sa, dv, healthcare, unions, shaming men if they do not want to be providers or sacrifice themselves for women "white feather campaign for ww1 + ww2 by conservative penrose fitzgerald" and so on... conservatives are responsible for male disposability and patern…
/r/MensRights06/04/26 10:26 AM

A significant critique is that VAWA promotes a "carceral" approach, relying heavily on mandatory arrests, prosecution, and imprisonment. Critics argue this approach has not effectively reduced IPV rates, can actually endanger victims and ignores reciprocal violence. VAWA cases can face high denial rates, often due to stringent evidence standards, and the process is frequently updated, causing confusion. There have been reports of attorneys misusing the process, filing fraudulent cases and coachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:57 AM
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sooo all the women you dumped are no evidence that there are too many "probably conservative or moderate women" who act in toxic ways? if you want to explain how vetting works please do it properly and do not present your anecdotal evidence of your dating as fact...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:27 AM
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id say you are disengenious if you do call her misogynistic but not misandrist as she paternalized liberal/progressive men + women...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:57 AM
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pretty silly how you view this but i guess for you just the most radical arbiters are against the status quo...
/r/MensRights06/04/26 05:55 AM
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that was my point mentioning it and why i do not like elam but some people here are all about you lie about him which is silly...
/r/MensRights06/04/26 05:48 AM
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do you understand the concept of statistical parity? statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace owens, rachel wilson OR get rid of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:45 PM
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id interject hostile towards liberal/progressive women and men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:42 PM
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Like the fact that people even openly talk about men being sexually assaulted is because feminists spent decades normalizing that kind of conversation. i beg to differ... vawa and the duluth model had a negative effect on vicimized men... Feminism does benefit men. Feminism is focused on women's issues. sure id say a majority would agree with that BUT certain people deny how it harmed men and women in various ways by being apologetic towards toxic behavior from women...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:39 PM
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There are different varities of feminism, you cannot lump all feminists together. that is true but why do feminists lump other groups or movements together to discredit them? manosphere comes to mind... identify as equalitarian but I can also call myself an equalitarian feminist who wants everyone to be treated in a fair and just way. cool we agree This is sad for all the good men who don't espouse this heinous ideology and who suffer from it as collateral damages :-( you do not have to be redpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:32 PM
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how about you explain in which ways women are more vulnerable and how we as society should tackle said vulnerability? idk how you connect that in any way with equality but refuse to connect it with preferential treatment...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:25 PM
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do you understand the concept of statistical parity? statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace owens, rachel wilson OR get rid of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:23 PM
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i hope you are not setting up a red herring fallacy here... Are you taking pshyically vulnerable or something else both to cover more points For instance someone being classified as vulnerable and thus needing more protection doesn't negate equality and is a distortion of the term preferential treatment everybody deserved equality but what gets considered as equality is very questionable if we think about opportunity, equity/equal outcomes and statistical parity... preferential treatment would c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:11 PM
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do you want to talk about violence treatment or consent treatment first? if women get considered as vulnerable group/class by feminsts and conservatives it implies they deserve special protection men do not need... im not talking about pregnancy here which is a special case/condition...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:16 PM
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that is true but who said that nature is fair or that the world is fair if we purge discrimination? people still fail within equal opportunity...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:15 PM
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can you proof that feminism is an equal rights movement and that each branch within feminism is not in conflict regarding this? id say feminism pushes womens interests according to the priorities each branch has... if feminism is an equal rights movement they would have to evaluate at which point men + women are equal and at which point patriarchy got dismantled if people consent to conservative relationships/lifestyles...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:09 PM
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sure each human deserves human rights but it seems like feminists push preferential treatment by ignoring how equality gets evaluated to determine one sex is better or worse off...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:08 PM
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can you proof that feminism is an equal rights movement and that each branch within feminism is not in conflict regarding this? id say femnism pushes womens interests according to the priorities each branch has... if feminism is an equal rights movement they would have to evaluate at which point men + women are equal and at which point patriarchy got dismantled if people consent to conservative relationships/lifestyles...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:07 PM
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how patriarchy gets used in discussion or debates describes conservatism and its gender role structure... that you ignore the rest of the comment says much about your post and intentions... you imply that upholding a healthy society is a fallacy and provided no credible evidence that people think the world or lets say nature is fair...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:41 PM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. conservative women put men at the top... “In many ways, we turned a blind eye to some women’s use of violence, their drug use and alcoholism, and their often harsh and violent treatment of their children.” quote Dr. Anne Campbell (1951–2017) LeSuBiA Study would you consider margaret thatcher or rachel wilson or janice raymond misogynists but not misandrists? it is quite sad how toxic behavior g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:40 PM
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idk dude creating a healthy society and upholding it is a fallacy now? i would disagree that any majority thinks the world is fair and just the existence of feminism is somewhat proof of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:29 PM

sooo if you give her that some men are lazy bums how will your conversation continue? id say the issue here is that op is a moderate woman fishing in the liberal and conservative men dating pool and is unhappy about her experiences... as far as i saw in the comments she did not provide much info about how women put in effort... her petty question about how you collect data on that topic just suggests/implies you have no clue if you are not gay or bi...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:40 PM
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oh come on what are you talking about? the first thing that comes to mind regarding putting in effort during sexual activity is going down on her and pleasure her in various ways beyond penetration...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:33 PM
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funny or sad enough that we apparently fail to level-set what gets accepted as effort for men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:04 PM
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Conservative, moderate, and liberal represent positions on a political spectrum, defining views on government involvement and social behavior. Conservatives value tradition, limited government, and individual liberty. Liberals support social progress, equality, and an active government to solve problems. Moderates fall between, favoring compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:47 PM
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Sometimes a man wanting to date a woman is treated as if it’s already a form of effort, as if the interest itself should be flattering enough. Which creates a strange double standard: one side treats their desire as effort, while the other is expected to constantly prove themselves through actions. maybe just maybe we should determine how effort looks like and what gets counted as effort? lets start with who initiates contact or the first steps for any activitiy... i can imagine what op will tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:44 PM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. <image> conservative women put men at the top...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:38 PM
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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/frauenkriminalitaet.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 10:52 AM
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"Wikipedia editor bias stems largely from a non-representative, mostly male, Western-centric, and left-leaning volunteer base, leading to systemic, cultural, and political biases. These biases influence content coverage, framing, and article length. While Wikipedia policies prioritize a neutral point of view, ideological bias is often present, particularly on political topics."
/r/MensRights05/04/26 10:16 AM
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Paul Elam, is known for provocative statements, which he often describes as "satire" or "tactical provocation" to draw attention to men's rights. He mimics the ironic misandry stance of toxic feminists which ends in ragebait competitions. "I am a stupid, sneaky slut – please rape me" (quote paul elam) "Bash a violent bitch" (quote paul elam) Elam publicly stated that if he were ever called to a jury for a rape trial, he would, in principle, vote "not guilty". No matter the evidence. i will not g…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 10:12 AM
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So to me, the idea that men are natural protectors doesn’t really match what we actually see in behavior. What gets called “protection” often looks conditional, negotiated, and dependent on what they get in return. it is really astounding how people avoid to talk about how they evaluate equal treatment vs preferential treatment... there is no unconditional protection if you go into the details and this includes parenthood that is a lot of times very selfish... if women count as vulnerable group …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:21 AM
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how do you expect people here to know more about him that goes beyond what wikipedia or similiar sites say about him? Paul Elam discusses Red Pill, the Manosphere & Men’s Rights "youtube" in my opinion elam is a bad mens rights advocate who stained the name of the movement with his behavior and statements...
/r/MensRights05/04/26 08:08 AM
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Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices became more frequent. Many young men refused "total" (TKDV), meaning both military and civilian service, in order to obtain legal clarification. This "Total" approach was used to force legal clarification, as the system was designed to have a replacement service available for those who objected to armed service. The legal pressure stemming from doubts about the fairness of military service was a majo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 09:54 PM
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Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices became more frequent. Many young men refused "total" (TKDV), meaning both military and civilian service, in order to obtain legal clarification. This "Total" approach was used to force legal clarification, as the system was designed to have a replacement service available for those who objected to armed service. The legal pressure stemming from doubts about the fairness of military service was a majo…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:58 PM
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poor digging jfyi im german and know the laws on this topic and the court cases against it... that you can refuse combat at the front is true but as soon as somebody invades the country this will get overthrown... germany would have to edit their "grundgesetz" to eliminate the special case for women with a political majority but that is very unlikely unless the pressure from the people gets insane... Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:31 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of any government who does stuff like that... ncfm in the us currently does it... rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System Following Congress's failure to act, in May 2024 t…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:28 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of any government who does stuff like that... ncfm in the us currently does it... rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System Following Congress's failure to act, in May 2024 t…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:27 PM
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im not american and in europe the same happens... you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" you should update your infos on this topic because court cases already get won... rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System Following Congres…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:22 PM
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as i already said multiple times within this sub... sue the crap out of any government who forces its citizen to military service... ncfm does it in the us and so can do any other group in other countries aswell... Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices became more frequent. Many young men refused "total" (TKDV), meaning both military and civilian service, in order to obtain legal clarification. This "Total" approach was used to force leg…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:04 PM
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do not be ridiculous im talking about voluntary military service... nobody should be conscripted...
/r/MensRights04/04/26 08:02 PM
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you are aware that not all roles are frontline at the battlefield right? if you are not fit for that position you are out and fill another position... you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" you should update your infos on this topic because court cases already get won... rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" h…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 06:34 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:30 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:30 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:30 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us! Increasing wave of lawsuits: From 2008 onwards, urgent applications against conscription notices became more frequent. Many young men refused "total" (TKDV), meaning both military and civilian service, in order to o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 02:30 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... "ai translate + sub is active" sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:25 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:23 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:22 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:22 PM
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you should watch markus lanz on youtube what guttenberg the german ex minister of defense from 17.04.2025 at roughly minute 20:30 said about conscription and court cases against it... sue the crap out of them similiar like ncfm does currently in the us!
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:22 PM
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the issue here is... there are conservatives in the mra movement who use the mra label to push very questionable narratives and deflect any critic "male disposability etc" with look over there what the evil feminist did... jfyi im not anti conservative as there are plenty anti trump and pro choice conservatives who are welcome... most mras support abortion as it is also required to maybe get legal parental surrender LPS and necessary for equal opportunity -> aswell as parental leave and a few ot…
/r/MensRights04/04/26 02:19 PM
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would you consider margaret thatcher or rachel wilson or janice raymond misogynists but not misandrists? conservatives and conservative leaning "men + women" try to convert or paternalize liberals/progressives "men + women" but maybe you did miss that... Why are contexts with men being put down for femininity considered "misogyny" but the inverse isn't "misandry"? (askfeminists) According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:20 AM
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Immediate_Gate6198 you are confused about what feminism is and what feminists want because each branch tackles issues and defines even feminism itself very differently... how equality vs equity or opportunity vs outcomes or toxic behavior gets evaluated is a major issue... statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:14 AM
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do you know the history of women volunteering in clinical studies and the thalidomide scandal? Women were historically excluded from clinical trials, particularly during their reproductive years, following a 1977 FDA guideline. This created a reliance on male-only data until the 1993 NIH Revitalization Act and 1993 FDA policy reversal mandated the inclusion of women, launching a new era of gender-specific research. 1977 FDA Ban: The FDA recommended excluding women of childbearing potential from …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:25 AM
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According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal. tell that conservatives...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:18 AM
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actually i would say they do not get or ignore on purpose that conservative women put men on top by refusing to step up -> example political representation -> 36 million women voting trump... According to PRRI, 31% of women identify as conservative, while 36% are moderate, and 29% are liberal.
/r/MensRights04/04/26 06:50 AM
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abuse of statistics, studies, surveys, rethoric/semantics and facts "radicalegalitarianism" would be nice to have the source on how much men and women do as single for a baseline... most people in this post argue that conservative relationships are abusive + oppressing and makes women vulnerable but have no problem with putting them into the women are a vulnerable group category... almost nobody tackles how couples should negotiate their finances...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:15 PM
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it should be no suprise that liberal/progressive men help more in the household than conservative men based on the nuclear family structure and its gender roles. if all liberal men already do 50/50 "spoiler they do not yet" but conservative men do nothing "exaggerated" most statistics, studies, surveys about unpaid labour are more or less worthless. men and women have to step up their game in various different areas. yes indeed the difference while single is tiny but it would be nice to show how…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:05 PM
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it should be no suprise that liberal/progressive men help more in the household than conservative men based on the nuclear family structure and its gender roles. if all liberal men already do 50/50 "spoiler they do not yet" but conservative men do nothing "exaggerated" most statistics, studies, surveys about unpaid labour are more or less worthless. men and women have to step up their game in various different areas. yes indeed the difference while single is tiny but it would be nice to show how…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:05 PM
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it should be no suprise that liberal/progressive men help more in the household than conservative men based on the nuclear family structure and its gender roles. if all liberal men already do 50/50 "spoiler they do not yet" but conservative men do nothing "exaggerated" most statistics, studies, surveys about unpaid labour are more or less worthless. men and women have to step up their game in various different areas. yes indeed the difference while single is tiny but it would be nice to show how…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:03 PM
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as if feminists would not redefine everything to reject "patriarchal -> conservative" definitions and then argue within their movement because they disagree on various topics... doing the exact same thing as the people you criticise does not give you a moral highground even if you are not a feminist... high value is subjective and if any hierarchy is ok to have at all it is competence probably... oh and btw jail people like tate and throw the key away!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:21 AM
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well this is all about punching up against the evil oppressors "men" vs punching down against vulnerable groups "including women" but how they evaluate toxic behavior is very questionable... one side says conservatism with its values is the source of almost all evil and the other side says feminism/wokeism with its values is the source of almost all evil within the gender war context... there is no winner and all lose... institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it
/r/MensRights03/04/26 06:00 AM
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well this is all about punching up against the evil oppressors "men" vs punching down against vulnerable groups "including women" but how they evaluate toxic behavior is very questionable... one side says conservatism with its values is the source of almost all evil and the other side says feminism/wokeism with its values is the source of almost all evil within the gender war context... there is no winner and all lose... institutional/systemic toxic behavior/sexism and the communication about it
/r/MensRights03/04/26 05:58 AM
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just for risk evaluation -> 2023 in the us... (source fbi) -one out of 2358 people got raped/made to penetrate (127216 total = 0,04%) -one out of 13404 people got murdered (22830 total = 0,008%) as reference point -> that many people died 2023 at home by accident "125700" or in a car crash "40901" data for the us from 2023: 13789 male victims of murder 3849 female victims of murder (yes i know the roughly 14k men and 2k women perpetrators part) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https:/…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 05:47 AM
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then it is not equal treatment
/r/MensRights02/04/26 07:18 PM
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well we should hand them equal treatment and equal responsibility + accountability on a silver platter or not? aslong as conservative women refuse to step up there will never be 50%-50% in our society and specially if we look at political representation...
/r/MensRights02/04/26 04:03 PM
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1038/s41598-024-81567-9 "In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape." somehow this does not suprise me... "As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry), despite being both widespread and detrimental phenomena, misandry does not have the same level …
/r/MensRights02/04/26 11:19 AM
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they equate conservative values to a mens world which ignores everything conservative women do like 36 million voting for trump... if people support conservative parties... "ai translate on youtube" personally i would prefer quotas "im opposed to" and similiar things OVER dying at the battlefield or at work etc... if abortion is legal ive at least a chance to avoid parenthood even if there is still a chance i have to pay child support... if i as man experience dv or sa i do not want to get laugh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 08:30 AM
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Current socio-political debates often address a double standard in which criticism of feminism and conservatism is evaluated or sanctioned differently. People tend to highlight how feminism or democrats hurt men but hide or downplay how conservatism and its values hurt men -> male disposability. regarding andrew wilson and similiar personalities all you need to know is what they think about egalitarians or egalitarian values...
/r/MensRights02/04/26 08:20 AM
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na they equate conservative values to a mens world which ignores everything conservative women do like 36 million voting for trump...
/r/MensRights02/04/26 07:46 AM
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yea you ignore all conservative policies who hurt men but highlight in detail how liberals hurt men which is a little bit disengenious or biased... specially if we think about what republicans do regarding sa, dv, healthcare, unions, shaming men if they do not want to be providers or sacrifice themselves for women "white feather campaign for ww1 + ww2 by conservative penrose fitzgerald" and so on... -several core GOP legislative stances and fiscal priorities can create significant hurdles for me…
/r/MensRights02/04/26 04:57 AM
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roughly 36 million women compared to 39 million men voted trump... conservatives hold men + women back if we look at what they do in power and all who voted them are responsible...
/r/MensRights01/04/26 06:32 PM
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that is true and all of said things reduce the risk but conservatives are against everything you listed... so at the end you have to evaluate which side is worse for men and i like to be alive...
/r/MensRights01/04/26 05:33 PM
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if people support conservative parties certainly... "ai translate on youtube" personally i would prefer quotas "im opposed to" and similiar things OVER dying at the battlefield or at work etc... if abortion is legal ive at least a chance to avoid parenthood even if there is still a chance i have to pay child support... if i as man experience dv or sa i do not want to get laughed at "rip earl silverman" or my case downplayed...
/r/MensRights01/04/26 05:06 PM
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What about the gender workplace hours gap? - australian senate The Gender Pay Gap is misleading - DODGY Statistics and Definitions - australian senate
/r/MensRights01/04/26 01:49 AM
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This applies to women too, but since we’re mainly in a Manosphere sub, I’ll use them for an example. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:51 AM
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What about the gender workplace hours gap? - australian senate The Gender Pay Gap is misleading - DODGY Statistics and Definitions - australian senate
/r/MensRights31/03/26 03:30 AM
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https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 02:15 AM
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https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 11:39 AM
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pretty sad if you think about who tries to force men into conscription/selective service and the current court case by ncfm vs this system... https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/453/57/#tab-opinion-1954231 Following Congress's failure to act, in May 2024 the NCFM again sued the Selective Service system on the basis that the Supreme Court's ruling was not conclusive, this time in the United States District Court for the Central District of California with Judge André Birotte Jr. presiding…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 10:04 AM
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should we call it toxic behavior + sexism is institutional or systemic? listen to this speech from german bundestag and tell me conservatives globally do not support male disposability and paternalism of women - ai translate is active mras should ask themselves how many conservatives use the mra label and push hypocritcal narratives...
/r/MensRights30/03/26 06:59 AM
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would you be ok with calling it toxic behavior + sexism and where does it start or when do you call it out? if certain people excuse rape of boys with "lucky boy" or "why was it not me" OR compare women with infants who should not vote OR calling anyone weak like a girl, p*ssy etc OR laugh about men who experience sexual assault + domestic violence OR conscription/selective service -> i would call that structural sexism... i guess the institutional or systemic part is about a conservative govern…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 06:30 AM
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listen to this speech from german bundestag and tell me conservatives globally do not support male disposability and paternalism of women ai translate into english is active... Donald Trump has frequently framed his relationship with women voters by positioning himself as their "protector," a rhetoric that has been interpreted by critics and some observers as portraying women as vulnerable or in need of safeguarding by paternalizing them. Trump stated his intention to protect the women of the co…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 06:24 AM
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What about the gender workplace hours gap? - australian senate The Gender Pay Gap is misleading - DODGY Statistics and Definitions - australian senate
/r/MensRights29/03/26 02:44 PM
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there is no data about such stuff because it does not get researched or inspected properly...
/r/MensRights29/03/26 11:44 AM
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"In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape." somehow this does not suprise me... "As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry), despite being both widespread and detrimental phenomena, misandry does not have the same level of institutional and systemic support as misogyny, in nearly …
/r/MensRights29/03/26 11:40 AM
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yes some are able to discuss and debate in a civil + pragmatic way about various issues
/r/MensRights29/03/26 11:30 AM
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im not a woman hence i do not understand their perspective even if i listen to what they say about being cautious to avoid harassment... that said it is basically impossible to talk about this topic in good faith if everything "example women count as vulnerable group" is a taboo to talk about...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:15 AM
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agreed liberal/progressive women and conservative women behave very differently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:03 AM
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this topic boils down to how our society tackles pregnancy and upbringing of children... how do we differentiate or evaluate equal treatment and preferential treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:00 AM
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sea lioning or using anecdotal evidence to present it as factual data or intermixing two seperate issues to dilute + distort the topic... there are several annoying fallacies men + women use... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:30 AM
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id suggest to take a look at the lesubia study about sexual violence and compare it to the cdc sexual violence survey... i think the issue op is talking about is women count as vulnerable group and men not apparently...
/r/MensRights27/03/26 04:40 AM
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i think conservatives and liberals will never agree on what gets counted as privilege or oppression... that said mras can still talk about this topic and at least call out toxic behavior without double standards to avoid the way feminists tend to do it based on double standards...
/r/MensRights26/03/26 12:52 PM
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thanks for your thoughts on that. btw i think conservatives and liberals will never agree on what gets counted as privilege...
/r/MensRights26/03/26 09:43 AM
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well i could see why conservative women refuse to step up to that task but idk about liberal women and thats the point here... if we talk about conscription/selective service vs volunteer military forces/service... not all positions are frontline combat infantery and you get cut if you are not fit for that... it is a similiar story regarding political representation and conservative women refusing to step up... volunteering for clinical studies would be another example if we compare men vs women…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 09:02 AM
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would you say they can ask for help within a dictatorship "sharia law as example" if we look at the most extreme form of toxic behavior in it? some try to equate this to the us republicans or any given conservative party globally wins an election in a democratic country...
/r/MensRights26/03/26 08:27 AM
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Why are contexts with men being put down for femininity considered "misogyny" but the inverse isn't "misandry"? that would certainly be a topic to talk about and feminists try to dodge or excuse it as you can see in their subs... i think toxic behavior should be called out no matter the gender or sex but certain people claim one is more prelevant based on lackluster research and disengenious comparisons...
/r/MensRights26/03/26 08:00 AM
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in other words patriarchy "gynocentrism aswell" in conversations basically describes conservatism + its structures... conservatives paternalize liberals/progressives... smashing patriarchy implies terminating conservatism if we look at how statistical parity gets evaluated and carried out... what are you gonna do about it if 2 adults consent to a conservative relationship within their freedom of choice? redefining conservatism? the opposite of patriarchy would be liberty or liberalism within thi…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 06:47 AM
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another issue i see in certain circles is shaming toxic behavior vs shaming a suspect "not a convict" of a crime specially if we talk about sexual assault and generally sexism... most mras should know about the rape vs made to penetrate issue and how it gets highlighted or framed in our society but the lesbuia study takes a look into it so compare their data to the cdc sexual violence survey... "keep in mind how reciprocal violence works!" https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/Forschung…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 05:12 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_and_Fit_Podcast im asking this because mra subs get accuses of spreading misogyny and connected to redpill as part of the manosohere... there are reports measuring extremism in various subs "in a disengenious way" and i wanted to negate such claims by highlighting how mras call out toxic behavior and how feminists fail at that... in my opinion this is all about punching up against the evil oppressors "men" vs punching down agaist vulnerable groups "including w…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 04:36 AM
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i guess i just create a post about it
/r/MensRights25/03/26 03:31 PM
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you see it is hard to call out something if there is no consensus of the majority what gets considered as hate or unacceptable...
/r/MensRights25/03/26 03:11 PM
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misogyny which behavior falls under that misogyny umbrella? anti abortion or women should not vote or all women belong in the kitchen and so on... can you give some examples or personalities you think are misogynists...
/r/MensRights25/03/26 02:25 PM
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where and how do you draw the line?
/r/MensRights25/03/26 10:09 AM
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what is feminism or a feminist?
/r/MensRights25/03/26 06:33 AM
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statistical parity through equity: in short the issue is if we look at for example political representation or any given field of work like military service we would have to force people into positions they do not want or are not qualified for. to reach "statistical parity" equality our society would need more conservative women like margaret thatcher, angela merkel, queen elizabeth, giorgia meloni, candace owens, rachel wilson OR get rid of conservatives. liberals/progressives may not like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:31 AM
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"girls will be girls" Clavicular "Kick streamer" threatening to sue a girl who slapped him in the face on his live stream and calls the police. Why DoorDash "Olivia Henderson" Girl’s Case Isn’t Getting Any Better for Her | LAWYER EXPLAINS The court pointed out that the WNT requested bonuses equivalent to those received by the MNT, but USSF refused because the WNT “was asking for all of the upsides of the MNT CBA (namely higher bonuses) without any of the drawbacks (e.g., no base salary).” Id. Ac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 08:56 PM

at it's base men initiate contact or further steps later on and the majority of women refuse to do so... if we talk about finding a serious relationship partner match it is pretty equal BUT we could stretch the vetting phase from casual dating to longterm marriage... specially if we look at divorce data or gay/lesbian relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:53 PM
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if medicine can not be tested on woman how should scientists + doctors release it with good conscience? the underlaying assumption of dismissing mainly womens issues is based on no solid and credible comparisons to what men experience...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:20 AM
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read about the thalidomide scandal which is the reason why women are behind in medical care... next to some sexism ofc but nobody can proof how deep that goes... do not distort or dilute the topic by comparing apples to oranges... the topic of this conversation is "relative safety" as you can see in the top level comment by caricadurr...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:09 AM
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what do you think my point is after responding to lemon_gecko's + caricadurr's disengenious comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:04 AM
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how the far right party afd in germany looks at male disposability and womens vulnerability "german bundestag session on international womens day" the us republicans "including conservative women" probably have a similiar stance on it as all other conservative parties globally... Donald Trump has frequently framed his relationship with women voters by positioning himself as their "protector," a rhetoric that has been interpreted by critics and some observers as portraying women as vulnerable or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/26 08:24 PM
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"Educate your daughter." Clavicular "Kick streamer" threatening to sue a girl who slapped him in the face on his live stream and calls the police. Why DoorDash "Olivia Henderson" Girl’s Case Isn’t Getting Any Better for Her | LAWYER EXPLAINS The court pointed out that the WNT requested bonuses equivalent to those received by the MNT, but USSF refused because the WNT “was asking for all of the upsides of the MNT CBA (namely higher bonuses) without any of the drawbacks (e.g., no base salary).” Id.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/26 08:20 PM
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women do not volunteer for clinical studies enough hence they face consequences accordingly... women do not work as many hours as men hence they face consequences accordingly... women "mainly conservative" refuse to step up regarding political representation hence all women face consequences accordingly... it does not matter if we look at men or women, redpillers or bluepillers, conservatives or liberals/progressives or moderates it tends to be the same story how OPINIONS get presented. people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:43 PM
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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly and many people are in prison under old non gender neutral definitions -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:18 PM
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you should have seen his post about the doordash girl "olivia henderson" incident... who he defended and is now a defendant criminal at court...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:46 AM
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https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:34 AM
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https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of their lives, an analysis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:32 AM
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do you differentiate between activist and advocat?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 05:15 AM
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did not know about amneus but i will look into it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 05:14 AM
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agreed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 05:12 AM
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would agree with most here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 05:09 AM
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well farrell was active in the feminist movement in the past and elam is a tradcon or at least pushes men into a tradcon direction. so i was curious what people think about that. thanks for your thoughts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 08:23 PM
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what do you think about farrell and elam regarding this topic?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 08:02 PM
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Patriarchy and conservatism aren't interchangeable, among other reasons because "conservative" doesn't pick out a single viewpoint. There are lots of kinds of conservatives - some of them are patriarchal (we normally call those ones social conservatives) but many others are not (e.g. neo-cons, libertarian leaning conservatives, etc). we disagree on this point and i was talking about how the term gets used in conversations not the definition of it. I don't know what you mean by a "conservative re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:57 PM
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nowadays we are basically living in a patriarchy if the government is conservative -> example us republicans... people ignore how statistical parity gets evaluated/tackled -> men and women can never be equal or at parity aslong as there are conservatives... that said i fully agree that conservative paternalism past their own family is harmful for a society...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:29 AM
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in other words patriarchy "gynocentrism aswell" in conversations basically describes conservatism + its structures... conservatives paternalize liberals/progressives... smashing patriarchy implies terminating conservatism if we look at how statistical parity gets evaluated and carried out... what are you gonna do about it if 2 adults consent to a conservative relationship within their freedom of choice? redefining conservatism?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:17 AM
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you are talking about your opinion on this topic and not facts but ok... lets look at several legal cases shall we? "Yes, a woman can legally bring a baby to a Safe Haven station without the father’s consent or knowledge." https://jfs.ohio.gov/adult-protective-services/services-for-families-and-children/resources-for-parents/safe-havens "A man can attempt to sue or challenge a mother who surrenders a baby to a Safe Haven, but success is unlikely." https://pdba.georgetown.edu/Security/citizensecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:58 PM
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What is there to explain? reproductive technology services have legal frameworks to absolve donor parents from legal parental responsibilities is the same thing for those who procure donor eggs or surrogates. If a man pays a surrogate to have his child using a donor egg, that child would legally be his and not the surrogate child, but this is all agreed upon before the surrogacy has ever happened. the irony... And safe haven laws are for anyone because they are done anonymously, you drop the bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:53 PM
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explain single moms who did choose to get a sperm donor from a sperm bank + why there are safe haven laws...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:39 AM
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From a legal standpoint, the reason abortion is allowed is because fetuses do not have a right to their life. They don’t really have any rights at all in fact, which is why you don’t have to pay child support for a fetus either. based on this logic parental surrender for men would be justified the same way... -there is no baby/child till she brings it to term -if she chooses to be a single mom and can afford it more power to her... take a look at how sperm banks work... -legal parental surrender…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:43 AM
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nice pro life argument you made there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:36 AM
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that derails the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:26 AM
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stop to derail the topic... parental surrender for men is about a timeframe within abortion is possible... "Justice therefore dictates that if a woman makes an unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support. Or, put another way, autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice." -- Kare Decrow former president of NOW…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:24 AM
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"Justice therefore dictates that if a woman makes an unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support. Or, put another way, autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice." -- Karen Decrow, former president of NOW divorce lawyer shares insights "james sexton" the best interest of the child gets violated multiple time…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:22 AM
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thats reasonable and i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:21 AM
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"Justice therefore dictates that if a woman makes an unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support. Or, put another way, autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice." -- Karen Decrow, former president of NOW divorce lawyer shares insights "james sexton" the best interest of the child gets violated multiple time…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:20 AM
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i would say there is no undeniable truth... redpillers or puas would want to call it undeniable truth to get more views + clicks but successful people in dating just try to cover as many attractive variables as possible... op tends to create wild conclusions on various topics...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:01 AM
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what do you think about lying about contraception + stance on abortion = baby trapping or falsely accusing somebody of sa or dv to coerce or avenge? could you explain how you define female primary behavior and behavior that needs justification? does over sharing count as gossip and acting condescending about a fathers skills to deal with children actively womensplaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:24 AM
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this is just silly if we look at the data like cdc or lesubia studies + surveys about domestic violence and sexual violence... people compare + equate this to homicide and have no clue about how reciprocal violence within relationships works or the ballpark in %/hard numbers...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:53 PM
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why do you and like-minded people gender this? mainly conservative men + women and feminist men + women think like that but because of different reasons and both fail to tackle it properly... if men are cautious around women they get laughed at because things like the serpico incident or the doordash girl incident or amber heard vs johnny depp incident or aileen wuornos/nannie doss incidents apparently are fairy tales... it gets deflected with the vast majority of violent criminals are men while…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:01 AM
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it would be helpful if women would be upfront about it or not lie that they are traditional to not waste my time if i want an equal relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:47 AM

oh i can refuse to pay her part and leave... it is easy but it wastes my time if she is not upfront about it or lies...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:44 AM

if you tackle it half baked like the us certainly but look at europe and other countries in the world... btw idk if we talk about the same thing here as you mentioned engineering relationships and how does that correlate to sub daycare or parental leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:36 AM

which is both things any decent person would and should support... nowadays this evolved into people have no clue about statistical parity and push arbitary equity while talking about the wage gap or political representation... it is not much better regarding unpaid labour vs paid labour or womens work does not get valued if we look at daycare for example or discussions about the pink tax...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:31 AM
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The big difference I notice between men and woman, Is woman are supposed to know straight away if a guy is going to be a future abuser/cheater/pump n dump etc But guys are allowed to ignore glaring red flags in a first date, like she insists on a 3 course fancy dinner that you pay for, she asks for money in advance. Because poor men never get a chance do you have any evidence that this is not just about individual people on both sides? people share their experiences and avoid level-set while tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:50 PM

Because clarifying and defining terms, phrases, and your intent is how we make sure both you and those reading your stance are on the same page there. Most miscommunication in debate stems from not being aligned on the above. people are not at the same page from the start within a debate if the foundation is anecdotal evidence and the rules of a debate get violated... my disagreement is about "stems from" but i would agree that clarifying terms + phrases + intent are also a problem as you said..…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:55 PM

it does not matter if we look at men or women, redpillers or bluepillers, conservatives or liberals/progressives or moderates it tends to be the same story how OPINIONS or ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE get presented as factual evidence. if people use anecdotal evidence as base for a debate there is no way to challenge it and just fallacies collide in a deadend. false cause or moving the goalpost or no true scotsman or texas sharpshooter fallacies or sealioning are inevitable in a situation like that. if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:09 PM
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true but they affect the economy specially if children are involved and daycare is not available and parental leave support is terrible...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:56 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 03:52 AM
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If a prostitute is not paid by someone buying sex from them, in an area where it is illegal to be a prostitute, what can they do? nothing... BUT your job is legal and pressing charges against your employer is not as easy as you think it is apparently... what is your point with comparing illegal sexwork with a legal job if people say sexwork SHOULD be dealt with like a normal job and be legal + regulated + protected?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:05 PM
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But just because it’s legal doesn’t mean that sex workers are actually protected, or that sex workers are never actually trafficking victims. The only places where it’s actually legal AND regulated are a few countries in Europe. maybe you are not aware how the conversation about it becomes completely different from this point on... i could post you various countries who are not from europe with legal sexwork and how their crime statistics look like... Prostitution in New Zealand - Wikipedia Pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:58 PM
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tbh i did read the comment you replied to "and your own comment about the topic in this post" but think it is a waste of time to reply to if that user has such a stance... you however are different and thats why i replied to you and not him... child labour has nothing to do with what i was talking about and as a sexworker who is not trafficked could work at a store as cashier or cleaner in a building etc if you want to... again do not mix up trafficked people with people who choose to do it... y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:37 PM
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seriously? i would bet money on it that almost all people are aware about this fact... you have to be extremly naive and avoid movies + tv shows + news completly to think no dubious things happen in any given industry... all talk about legal or illegal sexwork is mainly about what protects the sexworkers best and jails the most traffickers... your comparison with a coal miner gets paid is very weak and misses the point of the dangers of various jobs + working to pay the bills even if you do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:58 PM

testing things out within a relationship and quit if it does not work out happens in marriage + casual relationships... vetting can be done before or within a relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:17 AM

seriously how do you come to that conclusion? the entire opening post is about dating behavior and how people talk about it using lesbian relationships as example... to compare hetero and lesbian problems...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:49 AM
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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper than teacher crisis... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly and many people are in prison under old non gender neutral definitions -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taetero…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 08:50 AM

ofcourse but people refuse to and thats the issue i highlight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:24 AM

then you talk about one side of the coin = being selected
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:20 AM
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good effort but probably futile based on comments in the past about the very same topic by this user... btw feminists claim to liberate women by pushing their interests and the equality for women part is misleading in most cases because of how they evaluate an imbalance like political representation... "Then perhaps MRAs shouldn't be shitting on feminists at every possible opportunity. If you want to ally with women to work on men's issues, I strongly suggest you join r/MensLib. But the vast maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:12 AM

how can you evaluate difficulty if you refuse to do what you have to evaluate? that goes in both directions for men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:07 AM

how to approach this has multiple levels or layers as you could claim a marriage and a casual relationship are basically the same regarding testing things out...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:06 AM
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liberal men certainly but conservative men not and im not so sure about moderates inbetween...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:01 AM

well if a decent amount of women would actually initiate and select proactiv the debate would be more credible... listening to bi or lesbian women + bi or gay men on that topic helps...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:58 AM
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a lot of people specially in this sub do not accept the consequences of their choices and complain about their poor vetting or hypocrisy regarding personal values...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:21 AM
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legalize sexwork or at least decriminalize it... equal opportunity is not the same as equal outcomes... people fail all the time and freedom of choice leads to different outcomes in most cases... if you want to be a part of healthy society or community we have to hold up responsibility + accountability for everybody...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:01 AM

oh i care about the kid if a pregnancy was brought to term but revoking custody in this situation with irresponsible parents gets protested...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:07 PM

the mental gymnastics in this post are wild... "Studies, including a 2022 FamilyTreeDNA user survey, have found misattributed paternity rates around 5%, suggesting a significant number of non-paternity events (NPEs). While precise figures are debated, DNA testing has revealed surprisingly high rates of misattributed paternity, as demonstrated by a 2001 American Association of Blood Banks study where one-third of paternity tests excluded the alleged father." the best interest of the child gets vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:35 PM

Paternity fraud in the United States occurs when a person knowingly misrepresents the biological father of a child to receive child support. While it is considered an immoral action, it is generally not a crime in the U.S. Legal Standing: In many cases, a man whose name is on the birth certificate or who is married to the mother at the time of birth (presumption of paternity) is legally obligated to provide support, even if DNA tests later prove he is not the biological father. Men can sue for "…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:26 PM
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Paternity fraud in the United States occurs when a person knowingly misrepresents the biological father of a child to receive child support. While it is considered an immoral action, it is generally not a crime in the U.S. Legal Standing: In many cases, a man whose name is on the birth certificate or who is married to the mother at the time of birth (presumption of paternity) is legally obligated to provide support, even if DNA tests later prove he is not the biological father. Men can sue for "…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:23 PM

Paternity fraud in the United States occurs when a person knowingly misrepresents the biological father of a child to receive child support. While it is considered an immoral action, it is generally not a crime in the U.S. Legal Standing: In many cases, a man whose name is on the birth certificate or who is married to the mother at the time of birth (presumption of paternity) is legally obligated to provide support, even if DNA tests later prove he is not the biological father. Men can sue for "…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:45 PM

you distort the topic plain and simple paternity fraud -> sue for child support Paternity fraud in the United States occurs when a person knowingly misrepresents the biological father of a child to receive child support. While it is considered an immoral action, it is generally not a crime in the U.S. Legal Standing: In many cases, a man whose name is on the birth certificate or who is married to the mother at the time of birth (presumption of paternity) is legally obligated to provide support, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:41 PM
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same story for women but then again we would have to talk about casual relationships or fwb to test things out etc and at which point we talk about a serious relationship or how that differs regarding testing things out... does not really matter both sides have various valid reasons to complain BUT as i said in the automod section i agree with the topic of this post...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:25 PM

great then lay out or present what happens in said situation mister "just do the test" or "you did a fucked up thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:19 PM

sure men who dispute paternity "most likely in a child support situation" force the women or child in question thats a great idea... did you ever talk with a lawyer about this topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:02 PM

how do you evaluate that paternity fraud or baby trapping is rare? "there are no official statistics on how often women refuse dna testing in the usa" if they refuse a court has to order her to take a test... https://oncogenomics.com.ng/difference-between-dna-and-paternity-tests/ oh and btw... "Studies, including a 2022 FamilyTreeDNA user survey, have found misattributed paternity rates around 5%, suggesting a significant number of non-paternity events (NPEs). While precise figures are debated, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:41 PM

how do you evaluate that paternity fraud or baby trapping is rare? "there are no official statistics on how often women refuse dna testing in the usa" if they refuse a court has to order her to take a test... https://oncogenomics.com.ng/difference-between-dna-and-paternity-tests/ oh and btw... "Studies, including a 2022 FamilyTreeDNA user survey, have found misattributed paternity rates around 5%, suggesting a significant number of non-paternity events (NPEs). While precise figures are debated, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:39 PM

"Studies, including a 2022 FamilyTreeDNA user survey, have found misattributed paternity rates around 5%, suggesting a significant number of non-paternity events (NPEs). While precise figures are debated, DNA testing has revealed surprisingly high rates of misattributed paternity, as demonstrated by a 2001 American Association of Blood Banks study where one-third of paternity tests excluded the alleged father."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:33 PM
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well liberal men help more in the household than conservative men based on the nuclear family structure and its gender roles... if all liberal men already do 50/50 but conservative men do nothing the entire statistic, study, survey is worthless... yes indeed the difference while single is tiny but it would also show how much minutes men vs women do chores as single to have a baseline... https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:27 PM
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disagree on men who complain can not vet certain women out of their dating pool because they think all women are like that... the user you responded to may not be honest or loyal about his own values or exaggerates/complains about his vetting because his pool is nonexistent... which is not the same as all women and more like the women i dated so far... women are also not upfront about their values or red flags so vetting them takes time... i certainly can complain about women who wasted my time …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:21 AM
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fully agree with your post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:20 AM
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i think the major contradictions here would be that a lot of redpill influencers are hypocrit grifters who do not follow their own advice if you look at their wifes or women they date... AND that op basically claims men in the manosphere say xyz while conceding she does not know what men in the manosphere say...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:15 AM
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where is the evidence that men get their advice from virgin men? i really doubt that one and limited experience is better than none even if it is from women...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:02 AM
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i would also add that the majority of women do not initiate or date women hence their advice is very likely about how to attract her... at least within this dating narrative this topic is about... if you do not accept her conclusion about the 2 premises op setup apparently the topic is not for you according to her while she is not asking redpillers but all men... i do not agree with redpill one bit but their claims are about attracting attractive women and not below average looking single moms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:59 AM
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ok lets look at it from another perspective and think about what feminism is about or what a feminist is... do they advocate the liberation of women which implies womens interests? (not equality for women which is misleading) do they advocate equal opportunity or equal outcomes? (how statistical parity gets evaluated and that people fail are the main issues here) are feminists a monolith who want all the same things with the same actions in order to get it? are there hypocrits or imposters abusi…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 12:42 PM
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it is really baffling how some people call anything women do a feminist act... that said at which point you are a feminist is very vague specially if we look at terfs...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:40 AM

can you backup what you said with any factual evidence or sources? i have the data and numbers on it but i want to know if you use anecdotal evidence or credible evidence that can be verified... specially in comparison after claiming rare in comparison... your framing of men are just allowed to speak if women come first sounds bad faith as false accusations are in another section than rape vs made to penetrate... the various ways how consent gets violated should be tackled from all point of view…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:15 AM

i think the conclusions drawn from divorce data are quite misleading and ignore various details... divorce lawyer shares insights "james sexton" the best interest of the child gets violated multiple times already if both parents are irresponsible and still have custody but who cares right...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:06 AM
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interpersonal relationships require a lot of work and are necessary if you want to be a part of a functioning community or society... i would also say it is necessary for your mental health... how hard or easy it is depends and varies from person to person...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:49 PM
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i think redpillers or tradcons with a stance like that are delusional... andrew wilson "tradcon" also talks about this with his force doctrine and here in more detail... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QCMy2Y_vi8
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:43 PM
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how does this put down women or is not talking about an issue affecting men? whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:31 PM
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specially in the uk how exactly is rape or made to penetrate tackled under the law? Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, rape in England and Wales is legally defined as penile penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth without consent, meaning only men can be charged with rape. Women can be charged with severe sexual offences or sexual assault by penetration, they cannot legally be charged with the specific offense of "rape" if they do not use a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:01 AM
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i can agree with that... depending on who created a topic or started a discussion/debate they tend to do exactly what you said about generalisations which does not help to solve the issue at hand as all victims deserve justice...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:57 AM
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quite convenient that there is no public data about how many women are in prison for sexual violence or how many are suspects but are not convicted or sentenced or persecuted...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:28 AM
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ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly and many people are in prison under old non gender neutral definitions -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:25 AM
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ok explain how that would look like in practice.... half work + responsibility in childcare, eldery care and household chores or what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:21 AM
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i asked you to explain how the basis of a society would be equal and gave you a lead about parenthood... you could have just told me how you see a decent foundation starting with any area... are safe haven laws not gender neutral and adoption available for men and women? so on the specific matter of parental surrender vs abortion i asked you how you would tackle the issues that appear in a society... just telling me whats wrong is not constructive to find solutions if you suggest nothing on your…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:06 AM
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may you explain your train of thought here? "btw i support abortion"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:53 AM
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if you disagree with my conclusion give me your suggestion on it... how is consent between adults an insane question or argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:03 AM
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that was not my question but go on if you think that is necessary in order to explain how to build the foundation of a society without misogyny... all your points mentioned rely on evaluation of an imbalance and i ask you to provide an example of a balanced foundation for a society... like for example gender neutral laws or equal treatment and to be more specific because i think it is a core issue that affects various fields how a society tackles parenthood + family... we could start with parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:59 AM
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please explain in detail...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:39 AM
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so if we get rid of hierarchies society would be more fair with less misogyny? idk how to bypass competence hierarchies but equal opportunity requires certain cornerstones which will still not guarantee equal outcomes because people fail...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:38 AM
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tbh this sounds like you avoid the question... if you are living in a democracy women can choose to or not to be protected... ok lets stop this conversation as it seems like it is a deadend...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:30 AM
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could you explain how the foundation of our society would look like without misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:21 AM
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well you can be faithful or spiritual without being toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:19 AM
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ok then add nuance by explaining why women should or should not be able to choose if they want to be protected
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:18 AM
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so your point is about consent between adults or that women are children who need to be paternalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:02 AM
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how do you differentiate hatred of women and discrimination of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:47 AM
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may i ask if it is the religion itself or the people who interpret the original message like the church? asking as an agnostic...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:35 AM

what makes someone a feminist? "askfeminists" some claim it is about equality and some about liberating women but both at large fail to explain at which point patriarchy got dismantled if people choose to be conservative in a freedom of choice society... some want to transform tradcons to moderates in order to smash patriarchy aka conservatism... they see conservatism as misogynistic... some feminists tend to avoid discussions/debates about toxic behavior of women by censorship, distorting/dilut…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:11 AM
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people abuse feminism to excuse toxic behavior of women is the correct framing...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:51 AM
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please reread what you did write about how to challenge your view... if i would react in bad faith now i would say look thats womansplaining and she talks over me or in this case Teflon08191 but i will not do that... in order to tackle your topic men have to either deny that ingroup bias exists at all which is delusional or accuse you of lying as you provided zero factual but plenty anecdotal evidence or zero sources...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:36 PM
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your entire opening post is based on personal experiences with some subtopics that can not be challenged... your response to my top level comment cements this further... "in my opinion your topic should be it is impossible to debate/discuss with hypocritical -insert whatever gender/sex- about any given topic... " - that what i called "talking over me", as i've stated some time ago you do. No, i wanted to raise the issue, and i did it. You try to make me reframe it, and by doing so you shift all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:27 PM
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How should i talk about men's issues so that you woudn't call it "but men"? Like can i raise them at all? What dance should i dance for you to not be dismissive? It is okay that i have to dance at all? the irony is really strong here...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:16 PM
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your intervention about my edit is noted BUT my claim that you ignore points is based on my top level comment where i agreed with you on condescending behavior but criticised your framing, differentiation, correlation structure and that personal experiences can not be challenged within a debate... you openly refuse to follow this subs rules about debates... https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/wiki/rules/ Debate Posts “Debate” posts are moderated more heavily in order to ensure quality conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:14 PM
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your entire opening post is based on personal experiences with some subtopics that can not be challenged... your response to my top level comment cements this further... "in my opinion your topic should be it is impossible to debate/discuss with hypocritical -insert whatever gender/sex- about any given topic... " - that what i called "talking over me", as i've stated some time ago you do. No, i wanted to raise the issue, and i did it. You try to make me reframe it, and by doing so you shift all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:47 PM
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there are mods who should do something about it if she labels this as debate...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:28 PM
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personal experiences can not be the basis for a debate... not generalizable or objectively verifiable... it is too late to delete evidence as i saved most of it... anyways adding more examples in my edits to show how you violate debate rules does not alter the original message and users on reddit see that a comment got an edit... btw my post + comment history is unlocked if anybody wants to read up on it...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:18 PM

Lemon_gecko wants to debate on her terms instead of the real definition of a debate or the rules for a debate of this sub... she uses her personal experiences/anecdotal evidence as basis for a debate and refuses to explain how to challenge an experience without accusing her of lying within said mock debate... if you tackle any points she made notably without factual evidence or source she just ignores it... explaining the issue to her gets equated to talking over her or proving her point... btw …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:56 PM
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indeed you lost on your own "debate terms" ironically
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:53 AM
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i do not have to as you said according to your terms for a "debate" further you will not allow it... you can not prove anything in you opening post except the definitions of mansplaining, ingroup bias and victim blaming...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:51 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate ok following your terms instead of the real definition or the rules of this sub of a debate you lie about the whole topic and your experiences Lemon_gecko and her personal experience about ingroup bias more evidence of your mock debate behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:48 AM
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ok then i just stop to explain where i see the issue and just disagree with you because you are wrong or lie as you leave me no other choice with your terms for a "debate" a personal experiences/anecdotal evidence or feelings are not something to debate about... how should anybody argue about your bad experience past you lie about it? not generalizable or objectively verifiable... btw im not angry i just highlight how you violate the rules of this sub and the rules of a debate... you can not pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:43 AM
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what is a mens rights activist? could you explain how gender neutral laws + equal opportunity is punishing women? please in detail because i think you are talking about an opposition to arbitary equity based on statistical parity...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:30 AM
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i heavily doubt men are seen as competent or blameless without any effort beforehand and this entire thing is about interpretation + framing various scenarious or situations... yes there is certainly mansplaining or lets say sexist condescending behavior "women do it aswell - example parenthood" but what falls in that area is oftentimes arbitary or a failure of differentiation... similiar story with victim blaming as we saw with the doordash girl incident... idk but your correlation structure is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:57 AM

the issue within this topic and post is that op fails to mention that women lose value FOR HIM and many redpillers...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:39 AM

yes some do claim that... if somebody says i feel beautiful any negative comment about it is cruel... that said you have to keep in mind some people are unaware about unhealthy conditions aswell and the fat acceptance movement stretches this...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:36 AM

can we agree on that redpillers tend to be hypocritical as we can see while inspecting redpill influencers and this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:32 AM

you could also say claiming im more beautiful than xyz is cruel if you have to state it in public but id say both is bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:29 AM

similiar story but ive to say personally if i think somebody is mid or fat etc i do not have to post/comment it... however if said person claims to be way more beautiful etc than xyz they invite certain responses... this is not a gendered thing if you look at comments in mentions about famous men...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:19 AM

i can tell you that older supermodels or actresses etc tend to date younger men aswell so i see no real problem here... examples are charlize theron, madonna, heidi klum and so on... the issue within this topic and post is that op fails to mention that women lose value FOR HIM and many redpillers...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:09 AM
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we could also talk about more examples how people talk past eachother using one of your comments... ["That's the implication. "If you're so desperate, why don't you fuck a fattie?"" - well yes, it is a question, isn't it? And if you don't then you're not that desperate, simple as. But then i do agree that not all men, etc. Of course some don't deny having standards. Some do. I call out men who portrayed themselves as starving men who don't have anything, but then behave like that. If i were to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:06 AM
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conservative women + men complain about that but im a liberal man and provided an example of a gender norm to deconstruct...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:42 AM
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men provide + protect = male disposability
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:33 AM
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this comment is a prime example that it seems like you Lemon_gecko either do not understand how lifestyles affect dating behavior "while talking about many women or men" or you just ignore it because of your anecdotal evidence that there are some hypocrits on each side... putting in effort to be attractive can be done in various ways but women refusing "not prefer not to" to initiate extremly slack in that effort area... personally i want to be invisible for women who put in no effort of value..…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:11 AM
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["moderate men can not be compared to conservative or liberal men on that matter as it is static vs fluid values..." - not in my experience. That is why i always wonder why do you have to bring politics into debates about gender.] quoting you here from another post about basically the same "hypocrisy" topic and below my answer to it... (not in my experience vs not in your experience while we talk about individual people are hypocritical... so from my perspective you argue that more than some ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:58 AM
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it also tracks if you misinterpret or are not able to analyze data like that properly... the pay vs wage gap discussions are a prime example of that... most people who complain about the pay gap should inspect daycare salary + cost + availability + flexibility of the workers and legal protection in case of real discrimination... they do not have to leave anything out in studies but they have to explain it properly and other countries tackling studies like that do a better job than the us... that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:40 AM
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then inspect how the pay and cost structure of daycare works... if you want better conditions criticise properly...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:37 AM
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then inspect how the pay and cost structure of daycare works... if you want better conditions criticise properly...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:35 AM
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who expects women to do more care work? tradcon men + women? if liberal people expect that they are not very liberal... that said if you as a woman expect the man to initiate during dating you tend to be on the conservative or moderate side... if you want to criticise unfair conditions then do it properly but not by distorting wage gap data which is not the same as pay gap data...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:33 AM
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if you communicate openly i do not care who you follow... it is kinda strange that you are not able to connect the dots here... tbh with a stance like that id say hiding whatever info or sharing whatever info you paternalize your partner... if he is not ok with it maybe the relationship should end and thats not your choice to make...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:25 PM
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if the communication is open all this is no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:17 PM
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you adding that person vs that person adding you is quite a big difference and as i said it is all about how people communicate within relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:03 PM

not in my experience vs not in your experience while we talk about individual people are hypocritical... so from my perspective you argue that more than some individual men are hypocritical about their values and fluid values are the basis for most men...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:45 PM

if you say hypocritical men violate their own values the message is vastly different compared to in my experience most men deny toxic behavior... when feminism is deconstructing gender norms for women, so men also shouldn't do anything. "response to your post" already explained in that exact post you mentioned dating behavior gets affected by your lifestyle... moderate men can not be compared to conservative or liberal men on that matter as it is static vs fluid values...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:02 PM

wait im at work and the reddit app is buggy... ill add more to explain but i tried it multiple times already in other posts... you deflected my arguments there about dating with this is not about politics while i explained it is about lifestyles... when feminism is deconstructing gender norms for women, so men also shouldn't do anything. "response to your post" btw missing to add "some" or "hypocritical people" creates misunderstandings...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:01 AM

ok lets go through some scenarious to check where the disconnect is... if people talk about domestic violence nobody credible would deny that men can be violent BUT thats not how it gets presented and talked about... "The Duluth Model is a community-based, Coordinated Community Response (CCR) approach to ending domestic violence, developed in the early 1980s in Minnesota. It centers on victim safety, offender accountability, and the belief that violence is a pattern of behaviors used to maintain…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:55 AM
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at which point does cheating start in your opinion? adding a new friend or colleague is fine if you are transparent about your values and communicate openly with your partner... which allows him to tell you he does not care like your husband apparently did...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:03 AM
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how about talking with your partner if it is fine to share certain things with friends? you know to be on the same page...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:01 AM
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he has no argument as he is not aware about his own toxic behavior hence he can not recognize it in his social circles... just look at his doordashgirl post in his history and his gaslighting...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:53 AM
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violating consent in various ways is a large part of how women are toxic... if we look at gossip and defamation damn... domestic violence is another major issue thats closer than many want to admit and hide behind men can do more damage if they retaliate or defend... consent to parenthood is a hot topic a lot of people in this sub try to blame men for their accountability and responsibility + use the best interest of a child to negate mens rights even if she already violated it multiple times...…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:46 AM
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i think it is naive to believe a government -> politicians who work their entire life there have no interest "mainly money + power" by incentivising marriage and becoming children... you can write contracts without marriage and childrens best interests are way above any government if we look at parental surrender "abortion" and generally custody...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:32 PM
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are tax benefits for married couples not intervening in relationships? US marriage tax benefits generally allow couples filing jointly to access a higher standard deduction ($32,200 for 2026), potentially lower tax brackets, and increased eligibility for credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit. Additional benefits include unlimited estate tax transfers, spousal IRA contributions for non-working spouses, and increased capital gains exemptions on home sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:30 PM
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The issue is: Men try to cast wider net to appease as many women as they can. They think that if there is no need to do "traditional ritual" then they can do nothing and should be attractive nonetheless. there are moderate men who date on both ends... there are hypocritical men on both ends... there are conservative and liberal men who do not appease as many women as possible... i guess we would have to know how exactly you look at dating and how you evaluate appease as many women.... if i showe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:26 PM
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op maybe you should discuss models of relationships, lifestyle choices and consequences of your actions... what would in your opinion happen if governments do not intervene in any way with relationships or marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:12 PM
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is that not just how democracy works aswell? i guess progressives would call any term under republicans patriarchy... btw i do not condone force doctrine but the other user just highlighted how conservative gender roles work for men and women while both consent to it... if we talk about conservatives paternalize liberals it becomes about the collective...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:03 PM
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well tradcons want to enforce their gender roles on everybody as we can see with military service or abortion... this is not really about more rights it is about just men are able to enforce rights + laws hence they have by default the edge... similiar story with just women get pregnant hence they are at a disadvantage if we talk about raw survival...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:06 AM

conservative or liberal lifestyles affect your dating behavior and family structure with its gender roles...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:49 PM
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ok lets start with conservatives want to paternalize women because thats how conservatism operates within its gender roles... people like trump "hypocrit" want to defend conservative women and get rid of progressive women or at least the liberal lifestyle... now lets talk about how to tackle patriarchy aka conservatism "note moderates are no tradcons" and when exactly it comes to an end if people consent to a conservative lifestyle... <image> ok i guess the dilemma starts if they ask you what is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:46 PM

feminists eat themselves over the trans topic and it is a dilemma for them...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:39 PM
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this myron dude is such a ***** i can not stand him and his controversal views...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:04 PM
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While failing to register for the Selective Service is a felony, very few men have actually gone to prison for it, with reports from around 2019 indicating only about 20 men have been charged and 14 convicted since 1980, with no prosecutions in over 30 years prior to that. The penalties are severe (up to 5 years/250k fine), but enforcement is minimal, focusing more on denying federal benefits like student aid or jobs to non-registrants. rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:03 PM
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While failing to register for the Selective Service is a felony, very few men have actually gone to prison for it, with reports from around 2019 indicating only about 20 men have been charged and 14 convicted since 1980, with no prosecutions in over 30 years prior to that. The penalties are severe (up to 5 years/250k fine), but enforcement is minimal, focusing more on denying federal benefits like student aid or jobs to non-registrants. rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:02 PM
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If men aren't willing to curb their own impulses, why do they keep expecting women to do so? personally i do not expect anthing from tradcon women because i do not date them but it is a different story with liberal/progressive or moderate women and their lifestyles... I know, I was that good woman ignored in her late teens and early twenties. I was sooo looking for a husband back then, but I was nerdy, bookish, and dumpy. I was virginal, proper, with my legs closed. I was low maintenance, didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:02 AM

op you should have thought about how you want to talk about patriarchy theory and toxic masculinity... if you want to dismantle double standards be more specific else people will just tell you within their anecdotal evidence they do not experience similiar things...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:59 AM

if we look at your behavior it is no suprise that you do not observe and identify toxic behavior like that in your circles...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:54 AM

well it is the same vice versa regarding men and women thinking man or woman hater, misogyny or misandry, gender war etc... most people who claim feminists hate men talk about radfems or terfs and then there are ofc anti feminists who think all feminists are haters because of their patriarchy theory or the duluth model...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:48 AM

wookiee if you call yourself a feminist you said enough dubious or controversal things yourself but most people talk about radfems or terfs who are still feminists even if you claim they are not... stop defending toxic people and that includes toxic feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:44 AM

the same could be said about how people look at mens rights activists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:40 AM
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People aren't saying "never approach any woman in public anywhere." They're saying read the room and use your head and, most all, accept that some women just don't want to be approached. based on your own words it all depends on how read the room and using your head gets interpreted + executed... Thousands of women complain about wanting to be left alone. One woman complains about not getting enough attention. actually the numbers are pretty close but you are not engaging with people who operate…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:05 AM
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op you could focus on how patriarchy gets presented + tackled by feminists which is way more productive than dismantling a random video... you can not look at progressives or conservatives to compare them with the opposite and claim they are hypocrits... this includes double standards in all areas...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:46 AM
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ok if we consider that tradcons are a part of bluepill and progressives consider the patriarchy a conservative systemic oppression monster at least the headline of this post is accurate...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:42 AM
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There are lots of forms of toxic behavior that have nothing to do with gender. For example, someone might be a compulsive liar and that doesn't have to have anything to do with gender. But there are forms of toxic behavior which are specifically gendered because the performance of a gender role is embedded into the behavior. For example, a man who hits his girlfriend when she "talks back" to him is generally doing that because the girl's behavior threatens his gender role. Or a man who won't go …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 08:15 PM
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Socrates used the analogy of a sweet shop owner versus a doctor to illustrate the dangers of demagoguery in democracy, arguing that voters often prefer charming leaders offering easy, indulgent solutions (sweet shop owner) over those prescribing necessary but unpleasant long-term remedies (doctor). He believed voters, lacking critical thinking, would choose popular, superficial promises over uncomfortable truths. <image> The phrase "democracy is only as good as the education that surrounds it" m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:18 PM
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what feminism is or is supposed to be is one thing and how individual feminists behave or act is another... what makes you a feminist "askfeminists" radfems about mens mental health "deleted after non feminists reported the post" radfems about allies radfems about hating men "deleted after non feminists reported the post" i could post some stuff about terfs but i guess you see my point even if you disagree with it... calling out toxic individuals "including within feminist spaces" is no misogyny…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:39 PM
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working conditions have to be decent no matter your gender or sex... specially parental leave and daycare aswell "but more on that later" is very important for equal opportunity... this includes legal protection in case contracts get violated... that said people have to keep in mind how this will affect various fields... i think a good example of this are public toilets and if they should be free "nothing is free cost is just redistributed but mainly women would benefit" or cost money to use... …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:41 AM
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exactly! working conditions have to be decent no matter your gender or sex! sadly a lot of people do not think about other perspectives/point of views and consequences of various actions...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 11:25 AM
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what do you get out of gendering toxic behavior and how does this alter how to tackle it? sometimes im baffled how unaware certain people are about how they frame situations and circumstances but are suprised about the reactions or responses... similiar story with not registering if a person violates consent... the evaluations are all over the place if people talk about such things... if op wants to criticise redpillers for their statements like "upbringing of children is easy" or "household cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:35 AM
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i agree with that and dating is not easy no matter your gender/sex... it just looks different... we see that if we look at lesbian or gay dating behavior for example...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:47 PM
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the new lesubia study shows similiar results but be honest here the numbers are about equal for men and women if we consider everything... the real issue this post wants to talk about is how abused women are rational with their precautions BUT op avoids to talk about at which point it goes too far... expecting a date at a public space because it is more safe + easy to leave is rational and normal behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:03 PM
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When women talk about fearing men in dating contexts, many men hear: “You think all men are monsters.” Or they respond with: “Men are murdered more than women.” As if those two facts cancel each other out. They do not. For women, dating requires proximity to the demographic statistically most likely to physically overpower them. The risk calculus is different. The danger is relational. It is embedded in intimacy itself. And this is the point that often feels dismissed. well the issue here is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:07 AM
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are you serious? There is nothing equal about having kids. People typically date to marry and have kids. i explained to you that you do not have to birth a child to be a parent AND that there are a ton of people who have no intention to marry or get children their entire life even if they are dating... if you want to talk about how taxing pregnancy is and how redpillers devalue it and women sure im on your side but you went past that... How is that supporting the patriarchy? 😂 you’re so desperat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:01 PM
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op your only real point here is how feminists tackle patriarchy/conservatism and at which point it is dismantled or smashed if people consent to a conservative lifestyle... feminists see moderates as the ideal conservatives and seem to not understand statistical parity which leads to arbitary equity pushes... if a feminist actually wants to terminate static gender roles and covert contracts your entire argument falls apart... what do you think enthusiastic consent is about as example?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:49 AM
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actually you could have just said feminists want to tear down the patriarchal / conservative system + gender roles which will benefit liberal/progressive men + women... if you claim to advocate gender equality "equality for woman is also included" you have to evaluate at which point men and women are equal or not equal -> this is the core of the "arguing for A must also be arguing the inverse as well" issue... starting with who has to initiate during dating or within relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:40 AM
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Huh? This post is about having kids, it’s literally titled “motherhood is a bad deal” bringing up childfree people just ignores the topic of discussion entirely then stop to dilute the topic of motherhood is a bad deal with dating generally... There is nothing equal about having kids. The man nuts and the woman gets pregnant, goes through labor and delivery, postpartum recovery, nurses, and is typically the main on doing the child care. Nothing about it is equal or even or 50:50. Even if a man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:50 AM
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seriously who cares about birthrates? politicians? if you want to be equal be equal... if you want no children do not get them... if you want better conditions opt out to force politicians to act on it...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:11 AM
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your comparisons are really strange... we could cut becoming kids from this "i as a liberal man do not want kids" and dating would still suck for men + women because of several reasons but an equal relationship requires somewhat equal behavior... the entire courting thing in this argument is about an equal liberal relationship and you continue to highlight how conservative men + women "who do not want an equal/egalitarian relationship" pressure people to getting kids and acting on their gender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:36 AM
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it is about how bret cooper reacted to a live fashion show and the models running at stage... pretty hillarious online drama...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:14 PM
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TBP just generally refuses to accept that women can be flawed, TRP just shames women for their humanity. ironically we could switch the pills here and say tbp shames men for their humanity, trp refuses to accept that men can be flawed with basically the same result... people fail to explain at which point toxic behavior starts no matter the gender/sex and start wild conclusions about misogyny or misandry... btw most of said influencers are just grifters and lie about their values... tradcons are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:06 PM
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Because if they phrase it not "there is no chance at all for me" but "i'm not attractive to people I want" the problem stops being huge, and the only reaction is "So what? Everyone has been there" certain people are desperate in various ways yes i agree... there are men who would have sex with certain women = standards there are men who would have sex with any woman but can not = desperate there are men who want a serious relationship but do not find a matching woman = standards there are men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:10 AM
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personally i would say redpillers + incels complain about that most of the time but the numbers of people who complain "including women - where are all the good men etc" is about the same if we have to compare it by gender/sex... liberal/progressive men complain about "who has to initiate" during dating or within relationships... that said i agree with what you said about single moms and other women but how do you debate about this topic if you apparently expect men to deny that x% of men are hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:06 AM
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Like how common are you seeing news stories about this? LeSuBiA Study "Germany" 16.1% have experienced physical violence in a (former) partnership at some point in their lives, and 5.7% within the last five years. Looking at the last five years, women (5.2%) and men (6.1%) experienced physical violence almost equally often. now compare that to the recent lackluster cdc study about sexual violence... oh remember what you yourself wookiee did and ironically continue to do? The DoorDash incident pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:00 AM
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What beliefs and ideologies are we being shamed for? equal treatment and equal opportunity -> oppression because freedom of choice leads to different outcomes... My gf and I share the same beliefs and ideologies, so unless it’s misogynistic in nature I’m very curious which way this one is going to be spun please explain at which point behavior is toxic and why you feel the need to gender it...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:52 AM
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patriarchy = conservatism and its family/gender role structure... "feminists like to paint moderates as the ideal tradcons even if it does not make sense" conservatism and redpill is not the same thing but both get criticised for controversal stances... example women should not vote or not work in certain industries or have to be specially protected/paternalized etc... capitalism or socialism and any other economic system can be abused and should not be a part of this conversation or get conflat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:04 AM
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please start to call patriarchy what it really is... the conservative mindset of paternalism + disposability of women and men in our society aka their gender role structures with its effects... <image> for the feminists please explain at which point patriarchy got/gets dismantled if people consent to a conservative lifestyle "not moderate" else we have to talk about statistical parity between men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:52 AM
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patriarchy = conservatism so feminism is mainly anti conservatism and its gender/family structures... the main issue here is how equality or oppression gets evaluated/measured and then compared between men vs women... people do not understand statistical parity... <image> If men’s movements can’t get off the ground because not enough men care about anything except getting their dicks wet and shit talking women, that’s not on feminism to fix. maybe also that feminists stop to ridicule mras if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:43 AM
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could we please start with at which point toxic behavior is misogyny or misandry and why it seems like there is a double standard? where does misandry start? "askwomennocensor" where does misandry start? "purplepilldebate" just ask yourself if you would call any of that misogyny if a man did write or say exactly the same things talking about his experiences with women...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:56 PM
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that would be appreciated because from my perspective it is like talk to the hand or your made point within a debate is not there to be challenged in any way...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:50 PM
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well id say you are not hateful but the way you talk about various topics triggers people and idk yet if that is on purpose or a side effect... if i look at your posts and statements like "you are talking over me" or "i do not know what you talk about" it seems like you try to avoid to debate about a topic because you prefer to lecture people... maybe the issue is how people think a debate works and how toxic behavior gets interpreted...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:13 PM
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people throw around misogyny or misandry if it is convenient for them... they probably have no clue about equal treatment or oppression... the issue is not enough men share their experience and the ones who do get ridiculed by people who claim to fight the issue...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:58 PM

ok could you explain how you did evaluate that? were some radfems or terfs not nice to you? is this about men are predators and evil patriarchs? well i have women as friends i have no interest having sex with and if they ask me a favour i will help them because i know they would do exactly the same thing for me...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:55 AM
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are said women who preaching one thing and then practicing something different the same persons? this entire thing sounds like double standards and men + women set them up in various ways... what comes to mind is toxic behavior and why it gets gendered or how it gets framed...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:50 PM
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there are many factors but the point of me posting this is the numbers are closer than most people want to admit... btw yes men should list every negative experience to negate certain narratives...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:01 AM
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based on the dissense about equality or equal treatment or parity between men and women im not sure we are talking about the same thing here... if you as a feminist says this "i think feminism is about xyz or my feminism is about xyz" ok id agree but talking about the whole movement "feminism has always been xyz" who is split on this specially regarding patriarchy and how to tackle it idk...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:39 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:29 AM
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well how many cases of murder are not solved or missattributed? (example hitmen or driving somebody to suicide etc) look i understand what you are trying to do and i agree that there is an issue with men overrepresented but what should we do about it if in my opinion the terrible upbringing of children + bad living conditions are the main reason for this? repeating the result does not change a thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:25 AM
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ill add a wild take on this topic about role models and upbringing of children... the usa is terrible at it no matter the gender/sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:18 AM
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idk about that as equality and liberation of women is not the same thing... in order to move towards equality we would have to evaluate it properly for men + women else we act in an arbitary way with equity... even with equal opportunity the outcomes will never be at parity if we look at statistics while we keep in mind freedom of choice... there is a wild disconnect on this entire topic... that said it is certainly true that redpillers blame women unfairly...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:15 AM
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which shows how bad us studies are if you look at their methodology but compare cdc with this data... the real numbers are closer than most people want to admit...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:01 AM
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LeSuBiA Study "Germany" https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:57 AM
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disagree on you last statement as there is a massive lack on information about violent and abusive women...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:56 AM
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how about reframing this into conservatives "men + women" try to do this with liberals "men + women" based on their paternalistic lifestyle...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:53 AM
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it is seriously baffling how there is such a lack of information which leads to misleading conclusions as we can see within this sub or post...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:50 AM
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LeSuBiA Study "Germany" https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Forschung/ForschungsprojekteUndErgebnisse/Dunkelfeldforschung/LeSuBiA_EN/lesubia_EN_node.html LeSuBiA Study Summary: Nearly half of the women (48.7%) and 40.0% of the men have experienced psychological violence in a (former) partnership at least once in their lives. Emotional violence accounts for the largest share of the forms of psychological violence recorded in LeSuBiA, at 37.8%. Although women are more affected over the course of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:46 AM
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well feminism is in conflict with itself a lot of times but i agree with you op...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 08:47 AM
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you are doing this "blaming women unfairly" based on which metrics pls explain in detail and how you prefer to talk about various topics in a debate? i do not disagree that redpillers are like that but not all men are redpillers and this post asks men and not redpillers...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:52 AM
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where do you see redpill in the opening post? it is also a question for men and not redpill... progressive men want women who act progressive... conservative men want women who act conservative... redpillers are inbetween with inconsistent views which confuses people but thats not what gets presented here... it was assumed...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:45 AM
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progressive women and i basically directly responded/cited the comment i responded to...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:25 AM
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maybe reread my first comment and consider context... it is unfair if we do not provide equal opportunity but the consequences of your choices are on you... from your point of view equal representation would be if either liberals/progressives do not allow more than 10% men to compensate for the conservatives OR if conservatives stop to be conservative and force women to join... this topic is about how emotional labour gets evaluated and tackled within society... initiating during dating or in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:19 AM
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honesty is not equal to rudeness...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:10 AM
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my point is how people evaluate "emotional labour" or "toxic behavior" is based on double standards and is inconsistent...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:08 AM
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ironically thats what conservatives advocate but progressives oppose with their dating behavior... that said both are inconsistent and put up double standards... there are multiple ways to tackle relationships... the two main ones are serious with children + marriage in mind from the start OR casual that can go in any direction... in both you do not know how it evolves hence divorce or breaking up is pretty common if it does not work out... testing things out can be done in many ways and you do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:57 AM
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not welcome could also be they choose to not join based on their lifestyle structure they chose...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:48 AM
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thats not what the topic is about... we debate about how it gets tackled within society...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:41 AM
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thats not what the topic is about... we debate about how it gets tackled within society...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:40 AM
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lifestyles are not equal to politics but you could debate about that looking at gender or family role structures within society... you talked about healthy relationships and own choices with its consequences -> thats a broad spectrum... the issue here is how people evaluate emotional labour to be able to say either men or women are "insert whatever narrative"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:58 AM
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that is a fair take but sadly will never happen as a minority of people never stop acting toxic no matter the gender/sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:37 AM
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wait a second i would frame it as men get yelled at, pushed around, hit etc but not allowed any response...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:34 AM
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there are multiple ways to tackle relationships... the two main ones are serious with children + marriage in mind from the start OR casual that can go in any direction... in both you do not know how it evolves hence divorce or breaking up is pretty common if it does not work out... testing things out can be done in many ways and you do not have to treat a temporary partner bad in any way as all partnerships or relationships could be seen as temporary if we look at statistics... who takes the ini…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:32 AM
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ironically freedom of choice leads to gender/sex imbalances that get called oppression within society... as soon as a man or woman chooses a conservative lifestyle it is apparently toxic and vice versa for progressives/liberals... that said if a woman chooses a dysfunctional relationship it is all about patriarchy or toxic masculinity in most cases...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:21 AM
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till men or women choose a conservative lifestyle which leads to gender/sex imbalances within society that get called oppression by progressives...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:05 AM
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actually wookiee is not fine with conservatives at all if you look at his explanations and solutions for patriarchy or toxic masculinity which requires to terminate tradcons...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:02 AM
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data about families show the average in our society and i doubt all progressive women do what you or your bubble did looking at the numbers within statistics... that said if you enjoy that lifestyle more power to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:57 AM
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agree to what you said about equal rights but freedom of choice also leads to gender/sex imbalances in society that get framed as oppression by progressive women... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:50 AM
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agreed...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:12 PM
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that is just true if a woman is affected by her period/pregnancy but elsewhere i would disagree even on average... Research suggests women tend to express emotions like sadness and anxiety more frequently and intensely than men, often starting from a young age. However, studies indicate no consistent difference in the actual experience of emotion, suggesting differences are largely due to social conditioning, emotional expression, and, in some cases, hormonal influences, with men more frequently…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:11 PM
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claiming radfems + terfs are arguably the main voices of feminism is the equivalent to that...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:55 AM
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i would agree BUT feminists refuse to accept the same for the mens rights movement...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:26 AM
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cold approaching will not go away because there are many people who enjoy + reward it regardless of what people online will tell you... warm approaching is obviously prefered BUT aslong as women refuse to initiate way more than currently they have to live with the consequences and that includes cold approaching or harassment... we would see way more toxic behavior of women if they initiate more... specially liberal/progressive women behave pretty conservative in that area but complain about gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:22 AM
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patriarchy = conservatism so feminism is mainly anti conservatism and its gender/family structures... the main issue here is how equality or oppression gets evaluated/measured and then compared between men vs women... people do not understand statistical parity and a prime example of that is political representation... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:06 AM
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mens rights activism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 07:38 AM
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thats also called arbitary equity based on how they evaluate gender imbalances...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 07:33 AM
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what makes you a feminist "askfeminists" radfems about mens mental health radfems about allies radfems about hating men "deleted after non feminists reported the post" do you approve of that as a few examples of toxic feminists and what about the definition in the first post?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 07:28 AM
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you can reduce them with a social economy like some eu countries show...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 07:22 AM
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then you should remember my stance on this topic and what i said about them... their biggest sword is deception and their shield is distortion... that said if a feminist is like camille paglia i will work with them...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 04:44 PM
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i agree that a large crowd of feminists claim they want equality and push arbitary equity but the so called liberation of women is all about smashing conservatism... that some feminists go even further and want to redefine masculinity are no news but feminism has no leaders and just prominent figures... just that you know i do not defend them here but be accurate or you fall victim to them...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 04:07 PM
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not if there was rape or phedophilia but go on... =)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:30 PM
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hit the nail on its head
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:03 PM
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some do not like what you tell them but thats just the truth...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:21 PM
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maybe some can not connect the dots here but theory and practice are not the same thing... everything feminists say about patriarchy or toxic masculinity describes conservatism... what each feminist does in their life may be conservative regardless of that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 12:20 PM
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patriarchy = conservatism so feminism is mainly anti conservatism and its gender/family structures... the main issue here is how equality or oppression gets evaluated/measured and then compared between men vs women...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 10:28 AM
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if we are accurate feminism is in most cases just anti conservatism = patriarchy... feminism got created as a reaction to conservatism and their bashing of men does not change a thing about that... maybe some can not connect the dots here but theory and practice are not the same thing... everything feminists say about patriarchy or toxic masculinity describes conservatism... what each feminist does in their life may be conservative or bashing or misandry regardless of that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 10:25 AM
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similiar story with the entire who initiates most of the time... your post seems like you want to pressure men to be conservative or at least moderate... cold approaching is standing out with all consequences connected to it... if we talk about online dating men get no date if they put in no effort and women no commitment if they put in no effort... redpillers in this sub complain that they do not get the holy virgin to marry after they pumped and dumped a large amount of women "if they get any …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:55 AM
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do most leftists not support equal treatment of children and push for single parents getting supported? feminist spaces talk about women should be paid for chores and childcare/elderycare at home...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:04 AM
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if there was no consent from the start this does not matter... that said parental surrender is just within a timeframe abortion is possible so stop the disengenious "abandonment of children or best interest of children"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:01 AM

i gave her examples you can see her disengenious response... pretty convenient if for example lying about contraception is not registered as sexual coercion or violation of consent... btw rape itself has a 0,04% probability and paternity fraud roughly 1-5% according to dna testing studies and false accusations are roughly 10% according to studies... female sexual offenders data is not available for the public... nobody says this is just done by woman and the claim is if it is done by women peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:15 AM
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just half of the men but that said also half of the women here say cold approaching is a no go...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:23 PM
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i wonder why toxic behavior gets gendered but as soon as we talk about toxic femininity or misandry people just scream misogyny kills misandry annoys to silence it... almost nobody wants to talk about how our society tackles made to penetrate, defamation, paternity fraud, baby trapping, false accussations, gossip and so on... in conclusion -> toxic behavior is bad period no matter the gender or sex... one side started to gender issues and setting up double standards instead of tackling it gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:20 PM
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did you become a pro lifer? would you still say exactly the same thing in case of rape or phedophilia? you skipped that part "even with excepting" because even then men + boys get shafted... parental surrender is all about within a time she is able to abort... if you press your dishonest/disengenious best interest of the child point then the mother violated it multiple times and should lose custody if she brings it to term... then it is equal if both pay the orphanage cost and irresponsible pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:15 PM
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there is almost zero interest in this sub or reddit to talk about for example how consent gets violated by men AND women in various ways... people prefer to complain and vent instead of tackling toxic behavior properly...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:24 AM
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if we are honest most people on reddit are here to complain or vent but as soon as somebody tries to tackle issues and talks about how to do so the interest stops no matter the gender/sex... you see that daily within this sub when topics get repeated over and over again... consent + initiating are key points for a decent social with each other...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:09 AM
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really? id say in almost any relationship stuff like that happens...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:21 PM
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humans like to complain since ages no matter the gender/sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:18 PM
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id say the standard in society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:30 AM
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what is this framing again? there are multiple ways to tackle relationships... the two main ones are serious with children + marriage in mind from the start OR casual that can go in any direction... in both you do not know how it evolves hence divorce or breaking up is pretty common if it does not work out... testing things out can be done in many ways and you do not have to treat a temporary partner bad in any way as all partnerships or relationships could be seen as temporary if we look at sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:13 AM

how is affected by assault or abuse an insult? i already saw how various women shared their experiences and there is nothing to debate about that... the debate would be how to deal with or tackle it properly and not just listening to stories how terrible men are...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:29 PM

i already explained why i claim this... before you randomly respond to my comments read about the context...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:12 PM

why do you and affected women refuse to discuss solutions? this topic should be a discussion about consent and toxic behavior and not a debate... personal experiences are not there to be challenged within a debate...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:09 PM

the issue is it does not but it should...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:05 PM

if what you said was the goal WHY does op and affected women refuse to discuss solutions and just bash on men? it is nothing else if you read the comments here sharing personal experiences that should not be challenged within a debate... this post should be a discussion about toxic behavior and consent...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:12 PM

not really as people will just share their bad experiences to avoid debating about the topic and personal experiences are nothing that should be challenged in a debate... that men and women are different is daily a controversal topic... starting with lifestyle choices and its consequences like political representation or pay/wage gap... btw i already explained the issue with consent no matter the gender/sex in our society...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:43 PM

do you see the issue regarding equality here or do i have to explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:38 PM

sure and what is there to debate then? this is just a sharing disturbing experiences that should not be challenged post apparently...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:36 PM

debate topic and not observation sharing just saying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:31 PM

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:20 PM

if you have to choose between safety + flexibility and more pay it depends on your situation in life... personally id choose safety + flexibility for a more healthy work life balance...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:01 PM

hm i did read something about consent but not how it gets violated... i saw statistics that got distorted... sure focus on that single point while she put in several misleading ones thats fine...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:59 PM

who said i think you are irrational? i asked for an explanation why we have to gender this...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:56 PM

ok and i said thats fine but OP drives the point way further AS DEBATE and not sharing disturbing experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:49 PM

oh i like this one as it displays the issue within this sub and consent generally... based on a 0,008% probability people have to act in hysteria going on a date in a cafe... based on this data people have to inflate sexual assault numbers with a random man whistled at you... please explain why there is a need to gender this with femicide or androcide and how this solves the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:44 PM

safety and flexibility at the job
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:39 PM

ok and what should we do about it or is that all you wanted to say in a debate topic? still under 0,00x% crime probability...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:38 PM

who claims "at the same rate"? the claim is some people act in hysteria talking about a crime that happens less than 0,0x% and refusing to acknowledge bias... this is a debate topic and not sharing disturbing experiences who are not allowed to be challenged...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:36 PM

it is ironically funny how far you can take it with framing... it is astounding how some women do not want to see the problem with their framing of various circumstances... this is a debate topic but people do not debate about solutions apparenty...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 PM
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yes it is difficult to talk about topics like that... that said op may have ranted about it but this is not a gendered issue if we look at the whole picture... id say liberals expect conservatives to pay social taxes... i think the entire topic is silly as there are always cost within society the community has to fund but the main argument is about who controls what happens with said money...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:24 PM
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yes this is a large part of this and you will see it if people talk about how much they paid into it and how much they get out of it... do not get me wrong i think this is needed for a healthy society and i support it...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:13 PM

ok lets dive into this a little bit deeper... there are roughly 17k homicides "2024" and roughly 49k suicides per year in the us... how women violate consent does not get acknowledged properly -> we can see it in sexual violence and domestic violence data... (lie about contraception or take advantage of drunk men) https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html https://www-rbb--online-de.translate.goog/taeteropferpolizei/themen/frauenkriminalitaet.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:03 PM
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i know why you do this but the comment in question "about earning respect" was not out of context like yours are... if it makes you happy continue... earning respect comment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:49 AM
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he did... stop to lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:44 AM
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sad but true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:08 AM
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did you miss that? stop to embarass yourself with rumors and lies... ThunderDU <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:05 AM
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also true but how do you evaluate and differentiate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:55 AM
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not really because you asked redpill instead of men generally and im not redpill and not conservative... i think redpillers are exile/ex conservatives who are hypocritical about their lifestyle...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:17 AM
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not my point i just explain the argument and present accurate data on topic...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:55 AM
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are you able to differentiate between explaining details and a personal stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:53 AM
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you tell me if a fair gender neutral society, pro choice, affordable daycare etc is a liberal stance... maybe you are not able to differentiate discussing details of a topic and personal stance... my first comments in this post... explaining conservatism is not = im conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:51 AM
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since im no redpiller idk but respect and human dignity is not the same thing... personally i think people should treat people how they want to be treated themselves...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:48 AM
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what you call pre redpill is just the conservative mindset/lifestyle... patriarchy = conservatism and its family/gender role structure... the redpill faces backlash for sexism people like fresh&fit or andrew tate or rollo tomassi etc spread... while they clearly lie about their own life... conservatism and redpill is not the same thing but both get criticised for controversal stances...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:29 AM
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equal treatment is the core point of the arguments within this post and comments... how do people evaluate/measure equality "the need for equity" or oppression... quoted termaggravating8043: Respect is earned Agreed. Which objectively contradicts; you are expected to treat your fellow human beings respectfully
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:47 AM
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ill do it for op even if im very liberal and think social support/security is important... lets start with pros and cons of high vs low taxes... followed by daycare availability, salary, "working" conditions and cost... the entire thing here is conservative lifestyle vs liberal lifestyle and at which point either side starts to paternalize people... equal treatment includes exploitation of a weakness sadly if there is any competition like political representation... people argue about equality a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:05 AM
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<image> he is probably talking about averages in our society and according to statistics men pay more into it and women take more from it... your mother example will just fall back to a discussion about single parenthood... i guess this is about statistical parity and cherry picking inequality...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:27 AM
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thats great and is also the basis for equal opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:24 PM
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if daycare is affordable and available the salary will be low and the conditions for "daycare" workers worse if daycare is expensive and hard to get the salary will be high and the conditions for "daycare" workers great liberal parents benefit from affordable daycare but conservative parents get an unwanted burden... single people are also mixed on this... keep in mind i support affordable daycare... i think this is not about men or women get injured and more about a general disconnect regarding…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:56 PM
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poor choice of words by op but im discussing with him atm... this is about equal treatment with all the goods and bads... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:47 PM
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"women should be able to do whatever they want" without conservative paternalism is what you wanted to say... equal treatment with all consequences... camille paglia explains this in a decent way in some of her youtube videos about feminism...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:29 PM
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please explain how "women should be able to do whatever they want" is misogyny? i thought feminists want to end conservative paternalism to liberate women... equal treatment with all consequences no matter if good or bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:27 PM
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ill do it for op even if im very liberal and think social support/security is important... lets start with pros and cons of high vs low taxes... followed by daycare availability, salary, conditions and cost... idk why anybody should be praised but the entire thing here is conservative lifestyle vs liberal lifestyle and at which point either side starts to paternalize people... equal treatment includes consequences of your choices if there is any competition like political representation for exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:17 PM
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sure but this opposes the entire conservative lifestyle... as you can see if we look at military service, the justice system and supply chains/infrastructure...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:11 PM

while there is some truth in what you said it is also misleading... your issue is how marriage was tackled by the governments... patriarchy = conservatism and its family/gender role structure oppressing liberal people... gender/sex segregation will not eliminate oppression...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:16 AM

simple... women were not able to fight and die next to men to enforce human rights and are not ready today aswell with a few exceptions if you look at various militaries or justice systems... this is not about taking rights away this is about implementing + enforcing them in the first place... yes within this entire structure was sexism but that was not the main driving factor and you see this today with equal representation across all fields... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:06 AM
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in the same spirit women choose to be "oppressed" like the 44% women who voted for trump...
/r/MensRights04/02/26 06:33 AM
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we will never be equal because the society would have to be 100% liberal to get past paternalism + disposability -> fair gender neutral...
/r/MensRights04/02/26 06:31 AM
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thank you for explaining this because you seem to not understand the issue people have with that... how can you claim to advocate equality as a feminist if male oppression is irrelevant? you advocate the liberation of women and that would be fine if you call it like that... that said the oppression you are talking about is mainly paternalism by conservatism and its family/gender role structures... you and most feminists fail aswell at explaining how to get past this if people "including women ->…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:59 AM
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pls name a few matriarchal countries and your solution to oppression if there is one needed...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:34 PM
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who defends abusers/criminals like that if people try to hold them accountable? sorry but your sample size + method is terrible...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:02 AM
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"vast majority" is what exactly in % numbers or total amount? almost each time a topic like that gets discussed it is about conservatism VS liberalism and how their lifestyles affect family structures + gender dynamics...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:48 AM
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could you explain at which point or in which way the oppression of women would be gone for good? do you understand statistical parity and consent? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:02 AM
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0% women want to take the lead and provide is false... 100% women want a man to lead is also false... within this sub, on reddit and if you look at family statistics... the pregnancy + period point is the reason why we will never have equal representation in politics or companies but it is by choice... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:22 AM
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agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:18 AM
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at its core it is about resources to survive and humans fight over them...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:16 AM
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could you explain at which point or in which way the oppression of women would be gone for good?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:13 AM
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you are very bad at presenting patriarchy aka conservatism and ironically some feminists support patriarchy by ridiculing mras for tackling toxic behavior of women... the topic is about toxic behavior and how some people abuse feminism to hide or excuse it...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:51 AM
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would it be that hard to provide any data about false accussations and why? https://www.prosecutorintegrity.org/pr/99-of-false-accusations-go-unpunished-center-for-prosecutor-integrity-asks-why/ i doubt most people here know the legal consequences for made to penetrate, defamation, paternity fraud, baby trapping, false accussations and so on... would be interesting to know how people react if toxic behavior like that gets shamed in public aswell... maybe you missed amber heard vs johnny depp and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:39 PM
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what exactly did they know? do you speculate about it like the two other users? btw here is my first comment within this post -> may i ask why this is a debate and not a discussion post? now we have to disagree to engage with the topic... btw you could have said sa + dv is generally underreported but ill let it fly for now... i think you see which people acting in bad faith if you ask how to properly tackle the whole topic... bad examples are people who call for public shaming or vigilantees hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:02 PM
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if you want to be that pendantic about it his victims also smiled on photos with him... ok lets go back to witch hunts and burning people because the mob wants blood... i will not respond to bait like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:41 PM
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no my claim is the comment i responded to is poorly thought about and exaggerates on an extreme level... if you want my thoughts on billionaires or criminals like epstein just ask but your conclusion here is just edgy...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:22 PM
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i do not have to as op already did it and i was not the person who started with including nazis... calling people nazis is basically a call to kill the people...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:04 PM
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disagree... sure there are foul eggs as i showed within this post but not the entire movement is like that... the issue is how patriarchy aka conservatism gets presented and tackled by feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:30 AM
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easier said than done... do you act on rumors + gossip?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:39 AM
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uff so if you got forced with a gun at your head the person has no right to innocent until proven guilty? maybe rethink your comment... living in nazi germany was no joke if you are not one of them and this analogy is terrible... edit: btw im not saying it should not be investigated but the topic is about public shaming and vigilantees hunting suspects...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 10:37 AM
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may i ask why this is a debate and not a discussion post? now we have to disagree to engage with the topic... btw you could have said sa + dv is generally underreported but ill let it fly for now... i think you see which people acting in bad faith if you ask how to properly tackle the whole topic... bad examples are people who call for public shaming or vigilantees hunting a suspect... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/the-latest-epstein-files-release-includes-famous-names-and-new-details-abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 09:12 AM
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are you aware that i do but i quoted somebody who likes to jump back and forth depending on the convenience... if you do not believe me quote me where i do not differentiate...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:10 PM
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you are free to think about it what you want... yes my focus was on women within this post and i explained why...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:34 PM
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sure i agree that circumstances are complex but my argument here is not that men or women are innocent angels or monsters... this is about the damage toxic behavior like gossip does and people spreading misinformation -> public shaming = i will not rule out anything here... anybody can have an opinion but there are limits and people cross them without thinking about it to claim their opinions are facts or they are righteous because they claim to be feminists like terfs...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:26 PM
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<image> apparently all data thats not convenient is cherry picked... i wonder why toxic behavior gets gendered if we already agree its toxic but as soon as we talk about women people scream misogyny kills and misandry annoys to silence it... almost nobody wants to talk about how our society tackles made to penetrate, defamation, paternity fraud, baby trapping, false accussations, gossip and so on... the doordash incident proves feminism right doordash incident "askfeminists" thoughts about the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:19 AM
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the doordash incident proves feminism right doordash incident "askfeminists" thoughts about the doordash girl situation "twoxchromosomes" id say it was about 50-50 on social media... just showing one side is misleading... that said people claim daily that men get away with whatever in comparison...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:04 AM
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mra's take it seriously but get ridiculed for it Because none of the manosphere groups who claim to care about men's issues actually care about them. They just want to attack women and feminists and will actively fight against solutions to these problems if it means they can keep attacking women and feminists. people have to differentiate between mras, redpillers and conservatives but it is easier to put all of them under the manosphere umbrella...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:01 AM
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ill give you an example... i had women lie to me about birthcontrol within casual relationships but i did not tell them yet i had a vasectomy on top of condom or her pills... one of them had unprotected sex with another guy with sti and i can just say i got lucky but she told me that afterwards...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:45 PM
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certain women violate consent but are not able to register it as such... similiar story with toxic behavior... yes i experienced stuff like that but cut the line quickly enough to limit the damage... if mainly men have to initiate it becomes easy to say men are the creeps, harass and so on while womens toxic behavior gets hidden or ignored...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:16 PM
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two things -> consent is no one way street and forcing men to initiate has consequences you have to deal with over time...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:05 PM
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While failing to register for the Selective Service is a felony, very few men have actually gone to prison for it, with reports from around 2019 indicating only about 20 men have been charged and 14 convicted since 1980, with no prosecutions in over 30 years prior to that. The penalties are severe (up to 5 years/250k fine), but enforcement is minimal, focusing more on denying federal benefits like student aid or jobs to non-registrants. rostker v. goldberg "selective service court case" https://…
/r/MensRights29/01/26 06:08 AM
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pretty good post! ai can be a helpful tool specially if people compare gender issues in a disengenious way to start a victim olympics...
/r/MensRights28/01/26 08:35 AM
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california got sued by ncfm because they refused to tackle the issues properly and spent most money + time on womens issues... https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/30/governor-newsom-issues-executive-order-to-support-young-men-and-boys-address-suicide-rates/ https://ncfm.org/2025/05/news/discrimination-news/discrimination-against-men-news/ncfm-v-california-noted-in-u-s-state-commissions-on-men-and-women/ so sue the crap out of them...
/r/MensRights28/01/26 08:32 AM
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patriarchy "at least how people like feminists talk about it" is basically the conservative mindset of men provide + protect and women nurture + support...
/r/MensRights28/01/26 08:12 AM
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what do people here think about enforcing human rights + law & order requires a certain amount of violence?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 08:09 AM
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agree with you on that topic op
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:13 AM
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the viewerbase and its reaction is reality and all 4 characters are extremly straightforward... i gave a rl example within politics you ignored aswell... gendering this topic is just a bad base for an argument and op just stands on "i think women do or do not xyz"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:35 PM
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oh please is sam from sex and the city or berta from two and a half men called an icy bitch? what about dr. cox from scrubs or dr. house? by the viewers ofc... the disengenious comparison from the user above you is just an opinion... lack of experience in that area leads to conclusions like that... if you want real life examples look at the last election trump vs harris and who got called names for various statements by the voters... if you act a certain way some like it and others not...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:51 PM
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agree with both of you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:56 AM
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it is on topic but if you refuse to go into the details of "how people evaluate/measure" it aka toxic behavior why even starting the topic as debate? personally id shortcut your topic to women are upset about the consequences of men have to initiate almost always... yes there are toxic people, yes there are criminal people, yes there are clueless people... consent is no one way street...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:08 AM
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still waiting for an explanation for challenging a point correctly vs talking over somebody you disagree with... while you are at it explain at which point equal treatment becomes toxic behavior... i wonder why toxic behavior gets gendered but as soon as we talk about toxic femininity or misandry people just scream misogyny kills misandry annoys to silence it... almost nobody wants to talk about how our society tackles made to penetrate, defamation, paternity fraud, baby trapping, false accussat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:27 AM
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is a conservative lifestyle a redflag in your opinion op? women have standards is certainly true but which standards depends on their lifestyle... i have no issue with conservatives or progressives aslong as they do not try to paternalize people from the other side... "project their type of women" or "project their type of man" on our society in your words op...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:21 AM

pssht you can not say that people would have to rethink the entire gender pay/wage gap narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:31 AM

"by men" is false it is "by conservative men + women" so stop to distort facts...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:26 AM

the best way to force companies to adapt? write gender neutral laws about parental leave and create decent daycare coverage...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:07 AM
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the less than x% of the population just does count if it is convenient as op demonstrated... it is extremly bad faith how certain people like op talk about such topics... i think the conclusions drawn from divorce data are quite misleading and ignore various details... divorce lawyer shares insights "james sexton"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:52 PM

thats what i say in this sub daily but people ignore it... patriarchy and its explanations are terrible most of the time but in most cases it is just the conservative mindset of paternalizing women and disposability of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:46 AM
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actually statistical parity between men and women is impossible in a freedom of choice society... thats important because of how people measure + evaluate equality or gender imbalances to be able to push arbitary equity... ![img](5j16z9j6egfg1) equal representation would be if conservatives stop to be conservative to reach 50-50 even if conservative women refuse to step up OR if in that example the democrats do just allow like 10% men in their party... claiming misandry or misogyny while citing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:11 PM
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ofcourse not but be more specific with your source request else i just guess it is about the definition of misogyny... which would be a link to a dictionary...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:00 PM

is sexism + misogyny the same for you and at which point equal treatment becomes either of it? if you ask if there is misogyny id say yes and it is too much but as i said the evaluation of it is pretty open for interpretation even with dictionary definitions of it... it is similiar with patriarchy and how to evaluate or tackle it... specially if people start with there is no statistical parity in any given area hence patriarchy/misogyny which is just misleading...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:24 AM
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actually statistical parity between men and women is impossible in a freedom of choice society... thats important because of how people measure + evaluate equality or gender imbalances to be able to push arbitary equity... <image> equal representation would be if conservatives stop to be conservative to reach 50-50 even if conservative women refuse to step up OR if in that example the democrats do just allow like 10% men in their party...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:09 AM
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idk about that one as people at large refuse to take a serious look at toxic + criminal behavior of women... i prefer to enter a gender neutral society without triarchy crap...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:20 PM

mainstream feminism is a left-wing ideology even if there are some foul eggs acting toxic like radfems or terfs... radfems about mens mental health radfems about allies radfems about hating men "deleted after non feminists reported the post" that said the main critic against feminists is how they tackle stuff like that within their movement while judging/shaming non feminists AND their patriarchy theory based on statistical parity... btw may i ask what makes you a feminist and at which point do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:20 PM

radfems about mens mental health radfems about allies radfems about hating men "deleted after non feminists reported the post" do you approve of that as a few examples of toxic feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:16 PM

too bad too many women choose not to... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:08 PM
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men get raped by women women choose to become single moms if they can afford it at sperm banks or through adoption otherwise it gets denied you can spin in circles but the base of your arguments are shallow no matter how often you repeat it if abortion is illegal you have a point otherwise not if we follow your logic both should lose custody and pay for the child she brought to term getting raised by adoptive parents or orphanage or similiar institution
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:45 PM
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that does not work and as i said irresponsible people should not raise children... your argument falls apart as soon as abortion is legal no matter the choice... see sperm banks, rape victims, adoption and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:18 PM
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cool so we are abusing the best interest of the child if a woman is so selfish to bring a pregnancy to term without consent from the man to fund her unliteral choice + repeated irresponsible behavior... the entire my body my choice and infanticide are just cheap excuses in that scenario... at that point she should lose custody if she brings it to term if she is not able to care for a child...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:02 PM
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parental surrender is all about unborn and during pregnancy for starters...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:50 PM
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if they were married but yea pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:00 PM
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ok lets go through a few examples like voting... women were not allowed to vote becomes meaningless if men were also not allowed to vote... if we look at the us history men + women could vote after it got founded if they met the requirements but not all people met them... so the entire topic is about how marriage was treated under the law and fairness...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:37 PM
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explain the difference between challenging your points about patriarchy within a debate VS talking over you and i may change my behavior accordingly...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:23 PM
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explaining something properly is essential and you could say women are or were oppressed is also all about semantics and even misleading if men were also oppressed no matter in which ways...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:51 PM
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that is not average... average is all earned money divided by the total number of sexworkers by hour...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:48 PM
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you comment on topic within a debate post i comment on topic to challenge your point thats it have a nice day... im very liberal, pro choice, pro social security, pro fair gender neutral society
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:43 PM
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great see you in the next patriarchy post without any forward movement... =)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:39 PM
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if we are accurate women could vote during founding america... not all men or women could vote within us history... if you want to go into the details of equal treatment be my guest but that said it was certainly not fair and the main beef is about how marriage was organized/treated under the law... pushing a nebulous patriarchy theory or toxic masculinity just confuses people and specially if nobody explains at which point it would be gone...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:30 PM
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please start to call patriarchy what it really is... the conservative mindset of paternalism + disposability of women and men in our society... while we are at it explain at which point patriarchy got/gets dismantled if people consent to a conservative lifestyle "not moderate" else we have to talk about statistical parity between men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:25 PM
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please start to call patriarchy what it really is... the conservative mindset of paternalism + disposability of women and men in our society... while we are at it explain at which point patriarchy got/gets dismantled if people consent to a conservative lifestyle "not moderate" else we have to talk about statistical parity between men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:23 PM
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please start to call patriarchy what it really is... the conservative mindset of paternalism + disposability of women and men in our society... while we are at it explain at which point patriarchy got/gets dismantled if people consent to a conservative lifestyle "not moderate" else we have to talk about statistical parity between men and women...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:22 PM
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my problem here is "selling your body" vs "selling a service" has implications but both can be sexwork or normal work... i think decriminalized is currently the best compromise...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:48 PM
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encouraged and legalized or decriminalized are very different things with specific effects... it is also no privilege to work as a slave or under inhuman conditions... selling a service you fully consent to may be a privilege...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:40 PM
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you jump to strange conclusions...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:36 PM
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russia is not 3rd world
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:41 AM
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which countries are the 3rd world in your opinion? just as example you get sex for 0,50 in somalia and 20$ in mexico...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:21 AM
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pretty interesting what you call casual and escorts are not the average sexworker...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:48 AM
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thats escort territory... look it up the average sexworker is about 100-200$...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:39 AM
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this sounds more like high class escort than average sexworker...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:33 AM
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5$/h sexwork in 3rd world country...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:31 AM
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tiny compared to women in sexwork... you see similiar things on onlyfans or mfc etc... supply + demand...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:27 AM
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how would you compare the disgust of a sewer worker, externinator, crime scene cleaner OR the risk for your health/life of a coal miner, soldier, high sea fisher, logger to sexwork? many men can fathom how unattractive various jobs are but people do it anyway to survive... if you want to eliminate poverty go for it... nobody said you have to do sexwork but the argument here was supply + demand is very different if you look at data...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:25 AM
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true but easier to see and detect... if it is illegal in any form it is the worst option for sexwpokers... poverty affects people no matter the gender and they will do a lot "including selling their body" to survive... i would also not want to mine coal etc and destroy my health + life under poor working conditions...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:11 AM
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the economic part is also extremly out of touch if you ever talked with sexworkers... yes it is dangerous + demonized and people who think it is a privilege to sell your body lost their mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:03 AM
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quote me where i said that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:10 AM
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point still stands else you would not create a post like that... liberal/progressive men do their part for a 50-50 relationship so stop dating conservatives if you want an equal relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 AM
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so you expect liberal or at least moderate dating standards from conservatives...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:53 AM
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whats your point here? conservatives have a problem with single parents because of several reasons...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:52 AM
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you should not... that said conservative dating standards are not exactly about equality and pulling your weight like you apparently think or did you ignore them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:40 AM

if op calls ALL men misogynistic because they are no feminists or feminism was not created yet im kinda curious how toxic behavior gets defined and how critic and hate gets differentiated... at which point equal treatment becomes misogyny? what makes you a feminist and at which point do you lose that status op? how to tackle the patriarchy in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:37 AM
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all your points about oppression through patriarchy said exactly the conservative lifestyle is the patriarchy... you layed out examples based on this while ignoring simple facts like -> if the republican party would consist of 100% men and the democrats 50% women + 50% men that the average would be 75% men in power and just 25% women... regardless if conservative women refused to join political parties and consented to this lifestyle... in other words if the republicans win an election we live i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:10 PM
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both can go to hell if you ask me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:11 PM
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countering and correcting is not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:33 PM
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my point is people suck at explaining patriarchy and how to tackle it... that people like you think i deny or excuse various things about it is your conclusion...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:50 AM
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he did not even if he thinks he did and thats why it will never disappear...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:45 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:41 AM
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<image> more up to date and in detail...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:38 AM
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i want you to understand that you are vague if you talk about patriarchy and how to tackle it thats all... i do not care about winning i care about purging double standards and misleading information... almost all your examples like voting says absolutely nothing if you look at the history of lets say the usa and at which point voting was universal vs all men could vote vs all women could vote... the 15 amendment during 1870 till 1920 and the 19 amendment can not be shortcut by stating women cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:54 AM
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margaret thatcher, angela merkel, georia meloni all conservative women who promoted a patriarchal mindset leading a country...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:48 AM
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why do you think they ignore it? who wants to tax people to implement social security, universal healthcare and so on? who opposes a fair gender neutral society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:32 AM
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yes indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:16 AM
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that is naive and redefines conservatism... you are talking about a moderate lifestyle...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:16 AM
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i support a fair gender neutral society so please spare me lectures about equality... thank you for laying out the exact issue i was talking about... banned and choosing not to is not the same thing but you could explain the people here what conservatism and while we are at it consent is and how it looks like...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:01 AM
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thats because patriarchy = conservatism if you look at their arguments...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:09 AM
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