equality vs equity the eternal argument

midnight_blue77 · 2025-07-04T09:13:39+00:00

This is not an argument.

Equality ≠ Equity.

That's why they are two different words.

Schleudergang1400 · 2025-07-04T08:28:07+00:00

Your society will be equal, when it doesn't matter if a political representative is a man or a woman.

BobtheArcher2018 · 2025-07-04T08:37:45+00:00

Biological factors make equal representation by gender virtually impossible in a 'fair' contest system.

BUT that also means that society itself could end up reflecting one gender's preferences more than the other. This is the real issue with the glass ceiling. It isn't real. Women don't want those jobs as much as men. Male variability. Etc.

However, women also don't want men to hold all the levers of power. So you see the bind.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2025-07-04T12:40:01+00:00

It will only be equal when duties are equal, what means that it will never happens since women will never take responsibility to keep society running.

Sad-Yak9186 · 2025-07-05T17:13:39+00:00

Ironically I just listened to margaret thatcher speak for the first time today before seeing this post. Super charismatic never knew.

Tradition for Tradition, or Modernity for Modernity

This works out to either patriarchy or Mosuo-like Matriarchy

The current framework is unstable, essentially a luxury belief gonewild/potlatch and the post-war 2 surplus that funded it is running out

The bill has come due

alwaysright0 · 2025-07-04T08:20:42+00:00

Why do we need more conservative women?

Need them for what?

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Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-07-04T16:14:00+00:00

Equal is not equitable

Equal is not identical

Outcomes are not opportunities

CatchPhraze · 2025-07-04T19:40:11+00:00

Is it conservative women not stepping up or the rampant sexism in conservative spaces that might hold women back? The side that wants you to bleed to death in a hospital waiting room for an unviable pregnancy because it's God's will shockingly doesn't value you.

Dramatic-Essay-7872 · 2025-07-06T09:14:00+00:00

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shourwe · 2025-07-04T08:51:13+00:00

One thing which people tend to forget is thst while there are fewer conservative women , those who rise from conservative parties are much more stronger and better than women from liberal parties .

I for one is all for women in politics but I think u camt really force women to run and conservative women will run much less cause they are older thus at an age when u should retire and they believe that a women duty is towards her family(though thankfully younger conservatives are much better in this regard).

Emergency-Sell-6713 · 2025-07-04T08:15:30+00:00

People are so fucking confused at this point it seems like we can't even know what path to take. I'll just step back and watch what happens.

torytho · 2025-07-04T08:27:07+00:00

We'll reach equality when women earn about as much money as men.

addings0 · 2025-07-04T08:34:36+00:00

Women only care about lifestyle and status, not stability or people. Women are selfish to the point of absurdity ; no accountability ( regardless of agency ) ; don't commit to their share of societal duty ( are not picking up where men leave off ) ; like to project chaos ; only value equality as long as it conveniently serves their pursuit ( and will not reciprocate ) ; don't build anything ( least of all with men ) ; don't think about the world outside of themselves ; refuse to justify their choices yet still demand respect for them.

Child rearing policy only matters, when you actually have children. Not if you keep finding reasons to avoid having a family. Left wing liberal women don't want children, at all. The rationalizations don't matter, because their pursuit is clear. Indifference. Women don't want to get married, are dating for fun ( not commitment ) , and don't want children ( that's the whole point of abortion ) . They say they're redefining what family is, but there's no evidence or structure of what that is. Empty platitude about potential that's never achieved, no matter how much support they get. Gaslighting.

Social pressure and roles exist for a reason, regardless of whom it does right by. Men and women may be equal, but that doesn't make them the same. Can't be gender neutral, unless gender actually doesn't matter, in any capacity. This is why we separate men and women in sports. Only women can give birth to other humans. Social roles could compensate, but science and reality won't. You're not entitled to a utopian society, when you're not perfect yourself, refuse to do the work to maintain said society, or just disgruntled about the society you're currently in.

Title	equality vs equity the eternal argument
Author	Main-Tiger8537
Upvotes	1
Comments	206
Date	July 4, 2025 8:12 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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