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It's a pretty easy solution. You simply have to put in as much effort as her. Don't ask her for a list. Put your big boy panties on and do it. Pretend like you live alone and can't count on anyone, assess what needs to be done and do it. Just like her. And then keep doing it. Do it continuously without expectation. Mind you, this is what every adult should already be doing. It's "the bar" if you will. That's only half the solution. I've seen a lot of people pile on chores and responsibilities an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:21 PM
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I disagree. When it comes to desire and intimacy, I do want to be looked at like the casual lover that my partner lets loose with. I don't want to "On" as the logistics partner all the time, and vice versa. Otherwise, the relationship starts to feel like a work/business partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:12 PM
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Yes, I'd like it. Not AAALL the time to where it interrupts my life, but yes, who doesn't like feeling attractive and desired? Even if I weren't interested, it would be very flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:02 PM
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The obsessions you named are competitive traits, which get attention/admiration from potential partners PROVIDED they are done healthily. Women like driven and accomplished men. The problem is too many young guys are focusing on just those materialistic traits and overdoing it with bad attitudes. They aren't so much taught about traits that keep a partner, like kindness, empathy, and charity. Plus, they're probably attracted to materialistic women who are also only focused on those materialistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:51 AM
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Wow! I may move there! I have no problem cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:07 PM
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Not to mention, women just get caught less. Side guys are less likely to blow up the marriage than side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:05 AM
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I already have grown kids, so there won't be any of that. If she gets hurt or develops an illness, of course, I'll take care of my partner. I just don't want to enter an old-fashioned arrangement. I think that's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:36 PM
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Green flags to me that a lot of men dismiss or say they don't care about, are an advanced education, and a well-paying job. I'm a guy who likes to think and be intellectually challenged, so I have to have a smart woman who has informed opinions and is emotionally intelligent so that we can have stimulating and healthy discussions. Not to mention, couples where both partners are educated are much more likely to have a successful and respectful (hence, happier) long-term marriage. I like it when a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 11:20 PM
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I wanted kids eventually, so I wasn't going to get a vasectomy before then. I was married the first time, so I felt I could trust my wife. The second time, I just thought I'd met someone better. Either way, it worked out. My kids are grown and living very productive and happy lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:09 PM
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I assumed I wouldn't end up with 2 women who lied about birth control. Just my luck, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:06 PM
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Yeah, well, thats what happened to me. I trusted 2 women who assured me they were on the pill and they couldn't get pregnant, and I ended up with 2 kids by 2 different women. I made sure I could never get anyone pregnant after that. I told my adult kids that if they don't want kids, birth control is their responsibility, not the responsibility of their partner. Never trust someone else with that responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:57 AM
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some people like to be street shitters or don't want to pick up after their dog, New York?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:06 PM
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I don’t think women are out there en masse shaming men who aren’t being pushy and inappropriate in their approach. You have to be the one approaching women to be exposed to this. You know how SOME, not all, men are aggressive and irrational when approaching women? Well, SOME women are very negative and condescending just when you approach them. I've come to look at it as I got unlucky and picked a woman who isn't in the right head space to chat with. She doesn't speak for all women, just like ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:01 PM
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I would not want that. I want to be desired by my partner. I think when men say that, they're projecting how we find so many more women attractive and don't have to date a model to feel like we got a catch... I think they're saying that they would like for women to feel the same way. That being said, those men are focusing on the women who want tall, highly desired men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:52 PM
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You wouldn't make a very good fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:34 AM
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I wonder how much harder it'll be to find something stable, though. The men I know who don't care about a woman's promiscuous past tend to be much older, and they may not be the kind of men she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:21 AM
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A judge can order a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:36 PM
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Have you been through the process? Some people (women mostly) dodge the father on his days so he can't find the children. Or they fight with the father in front of the children and make the visitation exchange a horrible experience for everyone, including the children. It can take months to enforce custody through the courts, and there's rarely any recourse when a parent is being dodgy. You have a simple answer for everything as if the legal system were convenient and fair. Newsflash: it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:33 PM
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Having to fight to see my sons made me get a vasectomy. I never want to give a woman that power again. No marriage, no children, no cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:24 PM
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"oxycodone, an emergency contraceptive, and a treatment for female sexual dysfunction" I asked because pink is an iteration of red and wonder if it applies to a certain iteration of the red pill. I figured I'd ask before making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:37 PM
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What does the pink pill that you have under your name stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:17 AM
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Absolutely not. I'm in my 40s, so especially not at my age. If a woman in my age range is broke and doesn't have a lucrative career, she doesn't have her life together and will drag me down. I've worked hard and made good decisions, so the women I date need to offer the same. I prefer educated and mid to high earning women. Men who don't care that your partner is broke and has no direction and ONLY offers fidelity, if you plan to be successful, your chances of reaching that goal are lessened gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:28 PM
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Well put. Very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:50 AM
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You're right. Let me rephrase: they don't care about displaying their genuine self. It's not all men, and probably not most, but there are a lot of these guys out there. I mean, men and women both let out only a little about themselves at a time as they're getting to know someone. Some people are just extreme with it. I don't like that people operate that way. I think people should be able to be genuine and that they should care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:25 PM
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Because their sole purpose is to get laid. They don't care about their image.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:51 AM
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I'm sensing a little bit of sarcasm here. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:33 PM
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Coincidentally these are the men who struggle to have satisfying sex lives. In what way? They don't get sex, or something is never enough, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:19 PM
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Interesting. I don't know if you mean for just you or for everyone, but it doesn't work like that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:18 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:09 AM
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Is there a difference in the types of attractiveness for each? Physical and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:56 AM
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"Why?," is the question. What characteristics do men have to have to be in each of these categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:55 AM
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I think it's because men view sex as a reward, and if a guy is attractive and has charm, he gets rewarded quickly and often. If he's not as attractive, he has to "work for it," as I've heard some women say. Sex is a validating and exciting thing. This is just a perspective to give you insight. I can't speak from a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:50 AM
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Do men care about the feelings of women they only fuck? I do. Not to the point where I want to commit and compromise, but I do care about their well-being and hope they're happy. And I care enough to be honest with them about our arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:45 AM
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Planning and paying for everything is work. A lot of women lose interest if a guy doesn't do all that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:41 AM
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I've seen women hook up with "hot" guys and date/marry average guys that are "attractive enough," but for all I know, maybe those women found both men equally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:35 AM
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A lot/some men complain about being lonely, but I genuinely feel a lot of it comes from lacking empathy skills I'd say having empathy for women has impressed the women I date, but I don't think it got them to agree to a date. So, it might not solve much of the loneliness issue for those who can't get a woman to go out with them. But for the men who can, it might make the woman want a 2nd date once she's gotten to know who the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:32 PM
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Tariffs are an excellent idea (if measured and well-executed), albeit there’s no real gender angle there. Do you have an example of where they didn't just raise prices of something? The last tariff that was implemented by Trump increased prices all the way around for washers and dryers when the tariff was just on washers. The same occurred to steel and aluminum products manufactured in the US, in addition to some job losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:25 AM
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I love my kids and have raised them well, but I hate hearing, "A man gets fulfillment/satisfaction from providing for his family/wife," when it's said as an expectation as to how I'm supposed to feel. To me, it feels like my personal life goals are dead last and that I'm meant to serve until the day I die, like my life doesn't matter except to serve. The saying just feels dismissive of me as a person. I assume it's how women feel when people act like they expect them to have kids, so I show supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:51 PM
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Same. I want her to have options in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:21 AM
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I think it's just part of the culture. Women swipe left on mostly everyone, and men swipe right on mostly everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:29 PM
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Not a bad hypothesis. I think there are other factors at play, however. I think men are less picky about trivial things, so they'll swipe right on more women. Additionally, (this guess is only based on my experience) many women's interest is based on how they're feeling that day, meaning she nicht swipe left in a great guy one day, but when in a better mood, she'll swipe right on a guy who's just okay. For the most part, I don't think guys' interests in connecting swing so drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:26 PM
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Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:55 AM
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I can't. I really do value both equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:49 AM
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I absolutely need both, which I finally found. Otherwise, I'd stay single and just date casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 12:46 AM
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When they get sexually used by Caleb and don’t get a relationship, then they will be. First, they're going to go through the "all men are like this, even the below average ones" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:01 AM
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Well, you're right, but through analysis of self and others, some humility, and some humanity, we can at least try to minimize both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:53 AM
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Yeah, I've had this convo with a GF, and she made me more aware of how shitty that feels, to be dumped after sex. The vetting process would have to be refined for (and by) women in a way that weeds those men out. I don't have an answer, unfortunately; my vetting process to reduce meeting women who just wanted a night out took a lot of trial and error, and it took looking back at and studying a lot of micro-behaviors and small things they said that led to them showing their true colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:34 AM
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This is exactly why women don’t, because too many men with actual zero interest in us or attraction to us will still accept our offer. Right. It happens the other way around, too, which is why so many guys complain about paying for dates with women who never had any interest in them. Getting pumped and dumped by a guy you have relationship interest is bad, but much worse is the thought that the guy who just pumped and dumped you was, in a moment of post nut clarity, asking himself why he ever sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:02 AM
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Some form of aggressive de-escalation education and learning how to work through their anger. My reaction to my anger really caused me to make bad decisions. I'm lucky I'm not in jail or dead. Anyway, crime would go down, and so would men ending up in jail, and fewer victims, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:02 AM
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I understand. Yep, all my relationships, long and short, started off with us giving into our immediate chemistry and hooking up by date 2. If a woman wants to "make me earn it," or acts like I should wait when I know she's slept with other men sooner, I assume she doesn't find me physically desirable, and I break it off. It's important to me that I feel desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:32 PM
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You're saying all that as if sleeping with a guy early prevents you from getting to know him, like you have to discard him if you move quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:00 AM
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I've known a lot of guys who hooked up with women they weren't attracted to, more than not, actually. I guess cuz hookups didn't come often enough, so they settled for whatever came their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:55 AM
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Did what, paid for the date? That's extremely common, or you get the line that they didn't feel a connection, which is what happens the majority of the time. No connection is understandable, but you end up feeling like you not only wasted time, but the hours you worked to pay for said date. You could have paid for something more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:53 PM
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This is one thing I don't understand about a lot of guys. I personally want a woman who's high achieving and can contribute to upgrading our lives. I've accomplished a lot in life (military, STEM degree, great job), and from the ground up, and I want a woman who's not just loyal and attractive but educated and a high earner, preferably with an advanced degree and a competitive salary. I don't know if guys expect accomplished women to be argumentative or what, but from my experience, they've not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:40 AM
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Bruh! This is so spot on. I moved from a small city to a huge city, and in the bigger city, it is much more difficult to find matches. From my experience and perspective, I strongly believe it's the abundance mentality in women. A woman I know said her friends swipe left endlessly on guys she'd find attractive and interesting, and then end up saying, "There just aren't any guys worth dating in this city!" I think those women are just looking for someone who leaves them starstruck, which is unrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:14 AM
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when they do, they do it in such an unenthusiastic way where it's palpably obvious that there will be no second date if you agree to it. It's definitely a test the vast majority of the time. A woman I'm dating now kinda surprised my first beer on me by just ordering and paying for it on our first date. 1 beer, and I was like, "Yep, I'm keeping this one." She's remained a giver, too. It wasn't a bait and switch, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:07 AM
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If I was a man I could just keep going hard on my career like I would prefer to do and not have to take my looks fading as seriously 47M with a really good job, and I am told often I look good. It's still not easy dating, believe me. I have to work out, eat well, and put in a lot of work into getting women to notice me. I do date a lot, but being charming has meant studying women's dating behaviors and a lot of experimentation while dating over the years. It's pretty much a 2nd job, and it feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:26 AM
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Additionally, hormones affect emotions, which is common in men and women who undergo HRT. I read a study that found some trans men experienced dampened emotions, like crying when sad, once they had gender affirming hormone therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:46 PM
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They swipe left on 500 guys' profiles, "There just aren't any good men in this city!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:25 AM
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It's not weird now that I see how it's subliminally part of tradcon culture. Example: a guy friend and another guy were saying how it's way worse when a woman cheats. That means they have higher standards for women, and that to them, women are more innocent. Logically, she should be held to equal standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:22 AM
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I see. Well, I'm focusing on happiness in general, and if what you're doing now isn't working and, more importantly, making you happy and satisfied with your life in general, then you have to change something. Unfortunately, self-improvement is a long game. The main thing I'm trying to say is to let go of relying on companionship for happiness, because you can't make anyone be interested in you, so the real goal is happiness with oneself, and self-improvement is a step in that direction. Besides…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:58 AM
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Jerk off?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:48 AM
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As an option, you can twist it in a positive way: "I'm going to improve the best way and amount I can for me; I'm going to make myself smarter, more fit, and make more money for ME and to MY level of satisfaction."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:55 PM
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It's like I don't have a sufficient amount of self loathing to "improve" myself. This is so interesting. This makes me realize that ever since I was young (like single digit years), I have always felt that self-loathing (which is due to my mother's lack of approval that I always felt), which made me want to be better and better, in an unhealthy way. Thanks for this; I think it's going to help with therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:50 PM
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Everything that OP said. Additionally: I can sympathize with women not feeling safe walking up the street and having to be firm with a guy who is just trying to chat. As a guy, it doesn't feel good being spoken to like a potential attacker, but I've read the stories about rapists who used charm to get a woman to drop her guard, so that's one of the reasons I don't talk to women as much anymore: I don't want to elevate their already heightened guard. A book called The Gift of Fear helped me see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:27 AM
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Disagree. People are allowed to be hurt by rejection, but how they behave is their responsibility. Rational people hold themselves accountable for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:13 PM
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I could never have sex with a man who has values that I find detestable, no matter how physically attractive they are Detestable is a strong word. I've heard some women say, "There are men you sleep with and men you marry." I think a lot of guys just see it like that, that there are traits they feel aren't relationship material and traits that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:05 PM
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My God, stop answering this guy. He's clearly off his rocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:59 AM
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ENM is rare only because of the "ethical" part. Most people have experienced non monogamy via cheating (non ethnically).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:51 AM
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This was my case when I was younger. I gave myself to any woman who gave me attention. Now that I've done something with myself and am more confident, I'm much, much more selective. I require mutual physical attraction and prefer to date stable, accomplished women (education, well paying job, confident, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:05 AM
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More women are also in medical school. By less than 1%, but still, that needle is moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:28 AM
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Women who are career and success driven. TRP is always saying men don't care how much money a woman makes. Screw that. I love it when a woman has goals and works hard to achieve them. Also, I find it sexy when a woman doesn't want kids. I love it when a woman plans the dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:26 AM
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How will he know she'll show desire once committed? I guess he could just break up with her, but that's still a lot of work going into the unknown. I'm not saying she has to have sex before commitment, but some desire should be shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:04 AM
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When receiving dating advice, people who have been together under 5 years have no ground to stand on to be giving relationship advice. Come at me when you've pulled through the real lows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:38 AM
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It's a very, very small percentage. How long have you been married/ together? 10-15 years seems to be love's cutoff from what I've seen in most marriages, not that I'm putting an expiration date on yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:36 AM
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This. "I only see you as a friend." "I have enough friends. Peace."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:58 PM
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The muscles part is excessive, but there are a number of women with height requirements in their dating profiles, especially younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:13 AM
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Not a chance. I'm in my 40s. I've dated women who always had financial problems, and it didn't feel good having to cut back on my life to subsidize theirs, or worse yet, having to bail them out of their problems. Nowadays, at this age, any woman I date needs to be well established. I prefer women in the 6 figures category, but as low as 70s is fine. Fortunately, I work in a field that has a lot of high earning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:24 AM
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Companionship. Emotional support. Intimacy, emotional and physical. A 2nd set of eyes and another point of view on big decisions. I can and do everything in those articles by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:09 AM
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Smart man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:50 PM
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I read every article posted. My comment, to which you replied, stated "They just show that married men are more likely to be the kind of men who are more likely to take care of themselves better," which means it is NOT marriage, but married mens' choice to take care of themselves (or their wives telling them to go see a doctor). Either way, a man can choose to live longer; marriage doesn't magically do it for him. Correlation, not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:38 PM
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I saw that in 1 article listed, and then another listed article said the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:32 PM
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Right, all things men can do for themselves if they take care of themselves. Correlation, not causation. I've read articles like that repeatedly over the years looking to see if there was something specific about marriage that a person couldn't do for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:31 PM
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None of these articles shows that women bring these benefits to the table. They just show that married men are more likely to be the kind of men who are more likely to take care of themselves better. In summary, marriage doesn't not make the man; the man who makes better life decisions is more likely to decide to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:00 AM
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I'll admit, I wear t-shirts that accentuate my chest, shoulders, and arms because I like the brief glances from women. It makes me feel more confident. So, I don't blame women. Side note, I understand if women get mad at unruly advances from men, but I don't understand why they roll their eyes if they see a guy take a quick look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:20 PM
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I spread recognition of the women engineers I work with around the office, those who are very productive, anyway. Some foreign engineers have tried to treat them as if they're less capable, but I shut those MFers down HARD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:54 PM
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Your explanation makes complete sense to me. She'd have to offer something better and special.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:25 AM
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It's more about feeling desired than being a woman's bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:10 AM
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I'm with you on this, man. Gimme an educated, driven woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:45 AM
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I do understand your want to marry and am not trying to sway you. I'm just saying that divorce is much harder than people think. Unfortunately, it's one of those things we have to go through to know. I know plenty of divorced women who have said never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:50 PM
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. I want to have to go through a divorce, because breaking those vows is a big event. You're underestimating how hard divorce can be, then. I got lucky in that it only destroyed my credit and set me back financially about 10 years. My friends had it worse: 1 friend lost about $230k on her divorce between lawyer fees and losing her share of assets; at almost 40, she was left with nothing and had to move back in with her parents. Another has been trying to get divorced for over a year, but her hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:15 PM
1

I guess the better way to word it is, "Would you invest your life savings and possible future earnings in a business venture that has a 50% failure rate?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:53 AM
1

This is bad how exactly? Women would have to be much more active in pursuing and courting men. Many women will absolutely not make the first move, much less want to be in a position where they have to prove they are worthy of saying yes to a first date, have to plan and pay for said date, etc. with no guarantees of a viable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:30 PM
1

Men are generally territorial and competitive over women. Women are often just trophies to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:05 AM
2

Sorry you went through that, homie. *bro hug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:26 AM
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However, most men would like to date a woman who thinks he's her best choice. Not just at that moment, but overall. Very much this!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:47 AM
1

I know I'm handsome. My grandma said so!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:46 PM
10

my SO joked, “This is why men are scared to get married!” That's not a joke, at least not to me. Almost every woman in my previous relationships tried to change me. In my younger, weak minded years I made those changes and was completely unhappy. It happened in my marriage too. After the divorce, I decided I'd never legally trap myself in a relationship again.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/21 03:51 PM
3

I'm certainly not on Isaac Newton's level, but the most progress I've made has been when single. The women of my past hindered my progress. And, the women who I think would truly encourage me to keep making the sacrifices I need to make to achieve the level of success I want are few and far between.
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 09:52 AM
2

You're on the right path. Anyone who's bad for you and lives a harmful and fruitless life must be kicked to the curb. Surround yourself with positive people who are making moves and focus on progress. I'm happy for you, man. Go get it!
/r/MGTOW222/06/21 09:45 AM
1

Seriously. I had made up my mind that I was leaving this sub, then it had several days of just positive stuff that didn't relate to women, so I decided to stay. Now it's back to demonizing women. I'm about to say my goodbyes and just stick to r/marriagefree
/r/MGTOW221/06/21 08:27 PM
10

Common. They were in love with the idea of being married.
/r/Divorce_Men20/06/21 05:59 PM
10

Not, "until she loses the tingles and decides she wants to return to the streets". I've seen a lot of marriages end because of this. Too many people get married because they just want to get married for the hell of it. Then reality sets in.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 04:08 PM
3

"Accept it"
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/21 11:19 AM
10

Super awesome, man. You're an inspiration!
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 01:41 AM
6

Then they're gonna try to set him up with women. He should just tell them he's gay, lol.
/r/MGTOW218/06/21 12:31 AM
1

I don't want to be anyone's prize, lol.
/r/Divorce_Men16/06/21 06:55 PM
2

Congrats, man. You've earned it.
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 09:19 AM
4

Tried it. Mostly closet gay guys.
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 02:29 AM
5

I don't care.
/r/MGTOW214/06/21 10:17 AM
21

Nice. Last night I tried a new seasoning on some steaks and grilled them. Flavor was good but they came out a little too tough. Gonna try again but with less time on the fire, or maybe less heat. I want them to come out soft.
/r/MGTOW213/06/21 10:56 AM
8

Is this for a housewife? If so, I wouldn't have needed to run the numbers to know that. It's important people run the numbers when there's a wage disparity, though. I did a quick wealth analysis if I met a woman that makes as much as me and was frugal like me. We'd get rich quickly. Thing is finding both of those attributes in a person is difficult, much less in a woman.
/r/MGTOW212/06/21 06:49 AM
3

The least you should do is set hard limits: no marriage, no cohabitation, no kids. Don't let your emotions or pressure from her make you go past those limits.
/r/MGTOW212/06/21 02:42 AM
1

Same. Except I avoid them after my first interaction with them. If someone is gonna get bent out of shape over proper grammar that's been in place since the beginning of speech, I don't wanna hang around that kind of negativity.
/r/MGTOW212/06/21 02:12 AM
3

This is r/MGTOW material.
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 08:24 PM
8

I'm learning a foreign language. Yesterday evening I met up with a group through Meetup and we practiced speaking for 2 straight hours over beer. It was fun. Tomorrow I have language class, so today I have to do some reading. Gonna practice on Babble too.
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 12:29 PM
1

I've experienced that this doesn't work if you're trying to get in or maintain a relationship. They call it toxic masculinity but when it's women who aren't attracted to the things on this list, is it really toxic "masculinity"?
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 12:18 PM
2

Ha! Not my mom! She shamed me for crying, especially as I got a little older, like 10.
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 12:13 PM
1

My grandmother's mother died, and when her father remarried, he abandoned her, at the age of 5, at a home for abandoned children. After that, she was moved from home to home where she had to work to maintain her place in the home. She received no education and was on her own while in her adolescent years. So no, it's not that she was irresponsible. She had a much rougher life than most people will ever know, and it all started with the deadbeat piece of shit who was her father. I don't blame her…
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 02:01 AM
12

This was kind of my route into MGTOW. My mother and grandmother constantly spoke poorly of men. If course, they had bad experiences with the men they were with, so I understand. Anyway, after years of white knighting but being made to feel disposable by society, I decided to quit with relationships. I still date but noncommittal. The funny thing is that once I went my own way and started focusing on success, I feel like my position in society is stronger. Understandably so, I have more money, I …
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 11:34 AM
1

Gift card to a nice restaurant or cash, IMO.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 05:23 AM
18

Agreed. I've been going my own way (no marriage, no cohabitation) for almost 20 years and thought this would be a good support group when I found it, men doing great things with their lives on their own. Instead, the majority is hate and stagnation. Hell, I find more positivity on r/wgtow and have started following that sub because, regardless of gender, their views of abandoning relationships and focusing on other aspects of their lives is more prominent there and aligns more with my views. I'm…
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 12:14 PM
3

This is truly the way.
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 11:03 AM
3

OG MGTOW is no marriage, no cohabitation so you're just abiding by the old rules, which is what I do too.
/r/MGTOW208/06/21 10:04 PM
15

This isn't "female nature". This is an unstable person. GTFO and move on.
/r/MGTOW205/06/21 12:43 PM
13

I'm sure she does still have 200+, even at 38. They're likely not the type of men she wants, though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/21 10:43 AM
4

Well said.
/r/MGTOW229/05/21 07:31 PM
9

That depends on perspective. I recently realized that I have been living my life based on what women thought due to things my mother and grandmother used to tell me as a kid. As an adult, I worked to be a better person so that I could be a man with better dating options. Since realizing this, I've decided to drop that ideology and instead to continue improving for myself, but in retrospect, I've accomplished quite a lot mainly because I wanted to be more interesting and appealing to women.
/r/RedPillWomen27/05/21 12:21 PM
1

Options trading is dangerous. Good luck. Sounds like you're off to a good start.
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 03:56 AM
1

I like your bus idea, BTW. I'd so do that!
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 03:10 AM
1

I'm into 6 figures and it's a federal job, so good benefits and job security, never have to work OT, which is good because I like my free time. I set aside money and bought a few rental properties and now own them outright, so that brings in a bit more cash. I worked extra jobs in the evenings or weekends, blue collar stuff like welding or fixing people's cars and motorcycles. Sometimes I'd get a simple PT job like working in a stock room or at a bar just to have something productive to do. I ke…
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 03:09 AM
1

I graduated in 03, but keep in mind, the cost of everything was also lower and so were salaries. My old university has gone from 5k a year when I was there to 10k a year now, which isn't bad. A mechanical engineer back then was starting around 45k in my area. Now they start around 60k and if they work in oil and gas, they start between 80-90k. 30k a year for bare tuition sounds insane. Does that include dorms? If so, then it line up a bit more with where I live. Dorms are the ultimate rip off. Y…
/r/MGTOW224/05/21 02:45 AM
1

Do they make 50-100 as soon as they turn 18 and get a job or do they build up to that over time? If so, how much time? Engineering has worked out well for me. I work 40 hours max in an office. I only graduated with 25k in debt because I went to a state university. Paid off in no time. If a college kid makes the right decisions with their education, it's totally worth it.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 11:53 PM
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Will Smith and his family are famous, and fame has adverse effects on people. You can't use them as an example. A lot of 2 parent homes keep their conflict hidden, and then one day the kids are surprised their parents are getting divorced. In fact, the divorce rate itself is enough to tell you that tradition monogamous relationships aren't any better. I'm sorry, but even with your academic background I'm just not seeing enough of an argument, especially with all the deficiencies in regular monog…
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 02:30 PM
1

Conflict happens in poly relationships, and they resolve it if they have good communication. We all also learn conflict resolution when working in teams, at school, work, with other family members, etc. If they have a good support system and are turning out fine, I'm keeping my nose out of their business. Not asking this condescendingly, but what makes you so knowledgeable on kids growing up in poly homes? Or are you simply speculating negatively because it threatens the traditional family and o…
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 02:00 PM
1

Having a 2 person marriage doesn't automatically mean that conflict resolution will be taught to a child. There are a lot of children who are taught poor behavior in 2 parent homes. So, if those children in poly homes are happy, they're certainly better off than a conflicted 2 parent home.
/r/MGTOW223/05/21 01:39 PM
5

Exactly what I was thinking. Independence is taught hard to girls and women. Why is it bad for us to be independent and self reliant? Also, a lot of people, men and women, self isolate. Why is it a toxic masculinity trait? Interesting. If also genuinely like to know what makes her the expert on men that she's a men's coach.
/r/MGTOW222/05/21 09:59 AM
5

Dude. Sometimes I have to shit.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 11:33 PM
10

I don't know, man, I'll do some stupid shit for some cupcakes.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 07:16 PM
5

I agree. I know there are entitled women in this world. I don't have to saturate my brain with their existence and opinions. There comes a time where one has to move on and focus on the good things in one's life.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 10:35 AM
11

Great mindset to have. I used to chase material things and all it did was lead to frustration. Now, I chase peace (including financial peace) and life has felt so much better.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 10:19 AM
2

When your sex drive lessens varies. Some guys have low sex drive in their early 30's. My friends and I agreed that around 40 is when it became "controllable". I still have a lot of sex, but I wouldn't be willing to go fight a war for it, like I used to. Now I just take it if it comes my way. I put in minimal effort compared to before.
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 02:41 AM
3

I am still rebuilding my life (emotionally, financially and spiritually). This is where you need to focus, which means you aren't ready to commit and fall in love. You really should be in therapy for the trauma of losing your marriage so you can stand on your own 2 feet emotionally versus searching for the comfort of love to make you feel safer. When you feel complete ALONE, and you've left your baggage behind, then you can offer a partner your emotions.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/21 12:21 PM
5

This is a great lesson. It's certainly something I've seen experienced and have been guilty of myself here and there. And yes, I'm a man; women aren't the only ones who do this. It's part of many people's nature to derail at times.
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 01:07 PM
8

Brutal, lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/21 03:07 AM
5

I do date. I'm not monk mode. I just come to MGTOW2 to focus on self improvement. Focusing on women's deficiencies isn't self improvement.
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 03:05 AM
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I don't care. This isn't r/theredpill where they worry about dating and certain women's dating behavior. It's a sub about moving on from all that shit and making a good life for yourself.
/r/MGTOW217/05/21 12:03 AM
1

Irrelevant post
/r/MGTOW216/05/21 08:58 PM
3

Your GFs are going to try to convince you otherwise (unless you can find a woman with equal values): I'm not like those other women, I wouldn't do that to you, then we're breaking up, etc. You're going to have to let them go so they can find a guy who does want to marry them. But, that's okay. Just move on with your life. As you get older, you'll find divorced women or financially well off women who don't want to risk the threat of divorce anymore and are fine with just having a normal relations…
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/21 12:11 PM
1

You mean don't buy a house with someone? I bought my house on my own, and only my kids are allowed to live here with me.
/r/Divorce_Men15/05/21 12:06 PM
4

That's a really great way of putting it. There's more to life than searching for a relationship.
/r/MGTOW215/05/21 10:56 AM
1

Especially if their comments are negative. Those people didn't contribute to anything positively with everything they told OP.
/r/MGTOW214/05/21 12:35 PM
4

Force, yes. But this was trying to persuade an unwilling person by using their reasoning. That can be abuse too if the other person is persistent, but I eventually just left the relationship. The abuse began after that when she started stalking me for almost a year, stalking other women I was talking to, attacking me, threatening my life, etc. I had to call the police on her several times. The cops usually helped by shoeing her away, but other people just watched and laughed when she'd harass an…
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 03:56 PM
2

I still date and develop FWB with some women. I inform them that I'm not looking for anything serious, plus I live up to it. I don't treat them like girlfriends where I see them too consistently. Maybe once every couple of weeks. I also date polyamorous women so they have their other partners to rely on for emotional comfort.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 12:44 PM
2

Agree with all the investment advice, especially 401k Roth, mutual funds, and an S&P500 Index fund. You'll have to talk to an investment manager about those. Also, learn to fix your own car. Buy cars that have a strong online following with lots of tech support in forums and on YouTube. I've had great luck with Nissan and Toyota trucks, as well as Honda cars.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 12:39 PM
4

How much of the work do you do yourself? Great potential, but man, that's in the middle of nowhere. The closest Walmart is like 45 minutes away.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 12:32 PM
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I've been with women who did "nice" things like this (not to this extent, but still). They all ended up holding it over my head during arguments. I eventually made a rule for future dating partners: no gifts. I explain to them why I don't accept gifts and they understand.
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 12:18 PM
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A woman says, "If you love me, you'll marry me to show you trust me." The man responds, "If you love me, we don't need to get married in order to show trust." Who is right? Both are right. Marriage is something both people have to agree on. A couple must either value it completely so they go into it wholeheartedly, or it must mean nothing so that they feel fine not doing it. Mix the two and the relationship will fall apart. I experienced this when I was only 20 years old. My at the time GF was p…
/r/MGTOW213/05/21 12:13 PM
2

I find beans, rice, and avocado (guacamole in particular) to be filling ingredients. I can go a few days without eating meat when throwing those into my diet. Flour tortillas too. Nothing like a stuffed burrito to fill me up.
/r/MGTOW212/05/21 11:38 AM
2

Do you mean on other subs? I have a separate account for non mgtow stuff.
/r/MGTOW212/05/21 11:03 AM
17

Get off TikTok.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 04:09 AM
4

I had mine on a thursday morning. Took friday off, went back to work on monday. ... felt fine in a week. I had the same experience. Percocet helped on the hardest days.
/r/MGTOW211/05/21 03:58 AM
121

It's just biological dynamics at play. Accept it and move on with your life.
/r/MGTOW210/05/21 12:12 PM
3

And that $150 can be used to invest or towards some other goal you've been planning. This is the domino effect that leads to a better life, provided you do good things with every fallen domino. Prior to going my own way, I worked for my GFs or wife. The proceeds of all my work went into entertaining a woman in my life. I would very literally be a millionaire if I'd practiced at least some moderation in my relationships and told those women "No!". Now I'm making up for lost time, but I'm enjoying…
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 12:58 PM
8

This is why I don't get into relationships. Having someone making unending chores lists for me would prohibit me from doing things I enjoy and from personal growth. It's good to take care of one's home, but unwinding and learning and experiencing new things are cornerstones of a complete life.
/r/MGTOW209/05/21 12:04 PM
2

I've read a lot about attachment theory and I finally realized that my mother did and does love me. She just didn't know how to show it affectionately because she grew up in a harsh environment. She showed it by making sure my NEEDS came first: housing, food, education, and she struggled to provide those for me. She didn't show her love, she didn't say it often, and honestly, she did make me feel like a burden more often than not, but she did give me two things that are invaluable: a solid work …
/r/MGTOW207/05/21 01:43 PM
2

It's self love.
/r/Divorce_Men07/05/21 12:43 PM
1

He's never getting back up
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 01:13 PM
5

Thanks for advice, man. It's always good to hear from experienced people.
/r/MGTOW206/05/21 01:12 PM
2

I date (casually) quite a bit. I find that the women who don't have a lot of investments are the only ones that share our concern for losing everything they've worked for. Those who rent or have a ton of debt or don't have much of a portfolio are much more open to marriage and "sharing" the wealth in a marriage. Yeah, no thanks.
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:36 PM
2

Yes, BUT, if one spouse makes a fantastic living, invests, starts a business, etc and makes it big while the other spouse only worked as a cashier at a gas station and didn't really contribute much, they'd still be entitled to the other's investments, which wouldn't be fair, because the other one did all the work. This is why prenups aren't that great. They don't protect from unequal distribution of work within a marriage.
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:19 PM
8

All of them can be summarized with "Don't get married"
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:13 PM
3

COTA. beautiful track. Never rode it, but went to see MotoGP there. I want to ride it at least once.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 10:47 PM
0

I considered your POV as I read the article, but although I cannot be an astronaut, I can pursue hobbies that make me feel like I did push my personal limit, which is what I think the article intending. In my experience, I've had exes try to talk me out of pushing my personal limits (motorcycle stunt rider, pursuing a difficult degree that would take longer to obtain, traveling to areas that were desolate with few amenities, etc). These weren't just childhood dreams. They were aspirations that d…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/21 10:42 PM
0

This issue with this is that we are all taught by society that marriage and kids is what we're supposed to do. Instinct plus societal norms teach us that. Women are especially pressured to get married and have kids. Many people, men and women, don't realize that it isn't for them and that it's okay to not be marriage/parenthood material until after they're married.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/21 10:17 PM
4

That sounds like some trolling dude, man.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 11:33 AM
2

Can't upvote your perspective enough.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 02:52 AM
5

You really made the right choice. Congratulations, man. And, I'm sorry you had to go through such hell, but man, what a sign that you got yourself one hell of a woman. I wish you guys happiness and success.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 11:11 PM
2

Thanks for the advice.
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 12:20 PM
3

I used to. After battling life's daily issues alone for so many years, I've gotten used to it. The "loneliness" is now either deeply suppressed or so weak that it rarely rears its ugly head. My tactic on overcoming it was preparing for any emergencies by making/saving a lot of money and learn things that make me less dependent on partners, for example: learn to fix my own car and have multiple vehicles (1 car, 1 motorcycle) so I don't have to rely on a partner for rides or a double income to aff…
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 12:17 PM
3

I’d rather sit on my porch and stare at a tree in the middle of the day then be on Reddit lol That really made me lawl. Yeah, I try to limit my time on Reddit to just the morning. The only thing is it makes me stay in bed longer. I really should just read a book instead, but I like the interaction aspect of Reddit, plus the multitude of topics. I hate it! Lol
/r/MGTOW201/05/21 12:03 PM
1

I don't have any figures, but there are a lot of women on the dating over 30 and 40 subs and all over the internet complaining that men don't want to get married. The book Men on Strike by Helen Smith may have some stats, but I've not read it. Also, many women are deciding the be marriage and kid free. It isn't just men.
/r/MGTOW228/04/21 01:41 AM
1

I went through several of their posts. There are some comments that showed resentment towards men, but overall much of the content was about moving on from marriage and relationships, and overall positive. I subscribed, because I value content that encourages moving on from the idea that men and women HAVE TO get married and have kids to be complete.
/r/MGTOW225/04/21 01:09 PM
0

Agreed.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/21 01:01 PM
0

Down votes don't affect my life.
/r/Divorce_Men21/04/21 12:03 PM
1

Ok. I'll check it out. Thanks for the link either way.
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/21 09:47 PM
1

Well, I quoted women's nature, not human nature; focusing on just one group of people comes across as "holier than thou." It's not about what's more important. It's about expectations. It isn't ignorant to move on from expecting people to be nice. You can only have expectations of yourself, because you can only control your own behavior. I don't know if I want to read an editorial on why relationships are deteriorating. I've moved on from relationships and focus on personal growth.
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/21 05:07 PM
1

Ive been on MGTOW2 for years. I read the posts every day. I filter through them to find the ones that are about moving on and bettering oneself.
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/21 04:59 PM
-2

Dude, if guys in MGTOW would quit spewing all their hate of women, I think more people would listen to their arguments that the legal system of marriage sucks, but all they do is whine about "women's nature".
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/21 04:08 PM
1

Horrible. I'm so sorry you went through this. At least it's at a time where you have more years to rebuild, provided you remain single. I'm grateful I got taken for everything I had back when I had very little. That was back in 2004. Since then I've stayed off the marriage track and have not lived with anyone long term. These are the steps I've taken to make sure my kids are the ones who get what I've worked for.
/r/Divorce_Men18/04/21 04:04 PM
2

I don't buy it. I think it's some troll's fantasy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/21 03:09 PM
3

I do watch him, but there's something I don't like about his argument style. I can't quiet put my finger on it, but there's something inefficient about it. I won't stop watching him. His brutality can be pretty funny. I'm laughing now just thinking about it, lol.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/21 11:40 AM
5

Don't hurt me, no more *Proceed to bob head to one side.
/r/MGTOW231/03/21 11:52 PM
1

This is great, but don't feel you have to prove yourself to anyone. Congrats, though!
/r/MGTOW231/03/21 12:23 PM
0

I don't care.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 02:06 AM
10

Shit. I had take out fried chicken.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 02:03 AM
2

Thanks for the heads up. Gold and silver seem to be at a near 5 year high, so I'll probably wait. You bought in at a perfect time. For now, I'll just stick with stocks and a little bit of crypto and rental properties. I've thought about buying more guns too, and when the price of ammo drops, I'll be stocking up on ammo as well. I can resell it during the next price spike or just keep shooting at the range despite price spikes.
/r/MGTOW228/03/21 02:01 AM
2

Where do you buy/sell silver bars? Any fees involved?
/r/MGTOW227/03/21 10:44 AM
2

That was the original intent of this sub. The title just attracts to redpill ragers, though. We need something that doesn't have "MGTOW" or "Redpill" associated with it, but still focuses on the issues of single men who have sworn off relationships. What would be a good title for that? And, what would be good rules for such a sub? It's something to ponder.
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 12:28 PM
1

For me, the choice wasn't about whether they wanted me or not. MGTOW was more about learning to have the discipline to not need women to feel complete. No marriage/no cohabitation ended up just being a byproduct of that. It sounds like you're looking for a place to fit in. IMO, you really have to learn to focus on bettering yourself FOR YOU. Learn to not crave people's approval and redirect that energy into doing positive things like exercise, eating well, reading and learning, and building your…
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 12:21 PM
3

Yup. 3 kids and single here. 2 kids have moved on to adulthood, and 1 has 2 years left in high school. All great kids. Being a father has been the hardest yet most rewarding job I could have ever asked for. My kids are my greatest accomplishment! Being a husband, on the other hand, felt like slavery: work, clean this, do that, pay for this and that, and little intimacy. Never again. My life is perfect. Positive net worth, bills are paid, house is in good order, career is good to go, hobbies, my …
/r/MGTOW221/03/21 12:03 PM
22

For me, I get tired of seeing women selling sex. It makes me feel like they're trying to manipulate my spending behavior by taking advantage of my instinctive urges, or they're starving for attention and trying to steal my time. I'm very goal driven, so my time is valuable; I don't want to waste it by becoming someone's fanboy.
/r/MGTOW220/03/21 10:05 AM
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r/runonsentence
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/21 12:19 PM
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All of that exists, but you're also focusing your attention on just that: the negativity, that is. Put down your cell, close your laptop, turn off your TV, and go out and build something or do something nice for yourself like go for a jog on a sunny day. Learn something new, read something good, sit on a bench at a park and do some introspection about how your thoughts affect your outlook and your happiness/unhappiness.
/r/MGTOW213/03/21 02:02 AM
2

Yes, there are other Reddits to chat about hobbies, but many of those are filled with married men, some happily married, others not. The reason I like to discuss positive things on this Reddit is because we are all on our own. Most of the men on here don't rely on their parents or partners to help them get ahead. We're working, educating ourselves, taking care of our kids and homes, pursuing happiness, and sharing our hobbies as lone wolves; there's something triumphant about that. I like your d…
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 08:26 PM
5

Then it hit me. She knew this from the moment that she stopped responding and moved the date. This is most likely true, but she was probably not feeling it anymore but decided to go anyway in case there was the possibility of sparks in person, but there weren't. It's the world of dating, man. It happens to every guy in the dating market, and it's something most women have done at one point or another. I, too, got tired of these games and have pulled out of asking women out. Every now and then so…
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 01:43 PM
1

The original purpose of MGTOW2 was to talk about life outside of women, about actually going on with our lives. MGTOW1 was the Reddit for woman bashing. Now, all that bullshit has come here too.
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 01:14 PM
5

Thanks
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 11:07 AM
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This probably came from a misandric Reddit where the readers are off balance with their feelings of hatred. And, of course you'll have a high concentration of people agreeing. It's not worth your peace of mind to hang around threads that preach hate. Speaking of which, there's so much focus on anger towards women on here, that I've considered leaving this one. I preferred it when guys just talked about the accomplishments they achieved on their own. Edit: spelling error
/r/MGTOW223/02/21 10:30 AM
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I'm not going on a scavenger hunt for an internet debate at 4 in the morning unless I'm getting paid (well) to do so. I simply brought up that emotional intelligence, not a marriage certificate, is the root cause of healthy living and raising an emotionally leveled child. You want proof? There are a lot of books regarding EQ. You want to keep preaching correlative data versus source data? No one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:18 AM
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That statistic is superficial and incomplete, therefore misleading, is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:46 AM
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Would you honestly read it, especially at this hour? Even if you were willing, I don't think there's a study that separates emotional intelligence (EQ) from marriage, but there is a lot of literature that states that EQ specifically is what is good for a child's emotional well being. Furthermore, one could argue that an unstable, married couple wouldn't be fit parents, therefor creating poorly adjusted children. Therefore marriage itself isn't what creates well adjusted children, but the emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:45 AM
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If he's married to a person who cooks greasy food and eats McDonald's all the time, then no, marriage will still kill him. If he's single and changes his eating habits and exercises, then single life will help him live longer. Meaning, it's not marriage, but one's lifestyle that helps them live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:17 AM
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You've clearly not been to the deadbedroom Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:03 AM
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Have any of the studies removed single parents who are emotionally unstable/immature and compared the emotionally mature singles to married parents? Considering that most emotionally unavailable parents aren't married AND are bad parents skews these statistics. I suspect that subtracting them would result in showing that it takes emotional stability to raise emotionally healthy children, not marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:01 AM
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50% of first marriages do not end in divorce. Plus the divorce rate has been declining for years. Just for reference, various stats on Google say the divorce rate for first marriages is in the lower 40th percentile; still pretty high. It's been declining within the 40th percentile for the last 20 years, so it's a pretty slow decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:37 AM
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I clean and like to keep things very organized and I still used to hear crap about me not doing enough. Keep in mind this was with lawn mowing, fixing the cars, and spending time with my kids. Screw living with anyone, much less ever getting married again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:11 PM
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Redpill anything is automatically considered "hate" to several subs. If you want to post on there, you can create a separate username and only sub to their group. They'll warn that that's not allowed but there's little they can do to find out if you're discreet enough. It's really not worth all the trouble, though. screw them.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/21 02:03 PM
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To add to option 1, if you tell her you're working on someone, she'll be less inclined to distract you by trying to hook you up with her friend's daughter.
/r/MGTOW221/02/21 01:44 PM
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I don't get into relationships, but when I did, I remember thinking I'd leave if I ever won the lottery. Not because of sex, but because I want to explore the world alone and meet people along the way. I meet people a lot more easily when I'm by myself. Also, I always envisioned money making any problems we had worse. And yes, if I had a dream job in another country or one that sent me around the world, I'd leave. Also, I'd likely leave someone if I had a dangerous job where I may get killed, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 01:31 PM
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I don't get the feeling that I'm missing something, but that the awesomeness of my life will come to an end somehow. When I was broke and struggling, every time things would start to look good something bad would happen, e.g. my transmission would go out, an unexpected bill would come in the mail, my car got stolen, etc. That instilled some paranoia in me that something bad was right around the corner, so I worked and invested like mad in order to always be prepared. I've safeguarded myself agai…
/r/MGTOW221/02/21 05:51 AM
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For me, it adds hassle to my life. When I feel like I need some alone time, I can't get it. You'll get chore lists, be obligated to listen to someone's venting, have more people to clean up after (if you're the neat freak in the relationship), and for me, the house just feels more cramped. Also, common law may not exist, but other laws may exist, e.g. where I live, if they pay towards your mortgage, they now have a legal stake in your home. My home is to be inherited by my kids. I don't want any…
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 03:54 PM
1

Money loses its value with inflation. Invest!
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 03:35 PM
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my stomach just growled
/r/MGTOW216/02/21 03:21 PM
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You're living the dream, man. Don't forget that lesson; don't cohabitate, much less marriage. There are a lot of women who are cool with that living arrangement, so just date those types.
/r/MGTOW211/02/21 03:52 PM
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I seriously don't know whyTF 50/50 isn't the default. They really do believe we're expendable. Thank God, after a couple of years, my ex got tired of having the kids almost the entire time and needing a break, that I got them every Friday-Sunday, plus most holidays, plus I got them during the week during the summer. She got used to being able to have her own free time and being able to date again pretty quickly. Maybe in the future you can pitch that to her: "You can have some free time, they'll…
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/21 02:14 PM
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She's probably Anxious Preoccupied while he's Dismissive Avoidant. I think they call it the Dismissive Avoidant Trap when the AP is pushed away and pulled back in by the DA.
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/21 01:23 PM
1

Jesus, I'm not going to keep going back and forth over how each of us defines the word community. I'm done.
/r/MGTOW205/02/21 12:48 AM
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That goes for everything that interests a group of people. We all have lives outside of those interests. Here, we all agree that marriage and cohabitation isn't worth it.
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 10:56 PM
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Semantics. Community: a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals.
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 10:05 AM
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I agree fully with the inward journey because to be complete we must be comfortable with ourselves. However, I also believe in community. Mankind is designed to thrive in a community, e.g. the local butcher, the mechanic, bosses and employees, customers, friends, etc. We all provide services to each other upon which we all rely. Here, we provide advice, experience, guidance, etc. Some of it is toxic, like woman-hating, but we can look past the bad and accept the good.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 02:15 PM
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All of this. I date quite a bit still, but it's all on my terms. I do interesting things and have fun and if a woman wants to join, and if I invite her, she's welcome to come along. I offer no commitments, no marriage, and no kids, just fun and some companionship. Anyone, man or woman, who's looking for marriage and kids needs to find a partner with those same goals.
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 02:05 PM
2

Sounds like a troll tweet to me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/21 02:19 PM
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worse than my parents You just called mom and dad ugly
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/21 11:11 AM
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I remember when I first felt that feeling. My wife had moved out, something I hadn't wanted at the time. Our son was with her. The house was empty and dark, and I was sitting at the table having dinner alone. It was peacefully quiet. The only sound was that of my spoon touching my glass bowl. There was no one there to argue with, no attitude exchange, no screaming kid; I love my son, but it was nice having some indefinite alone time. I hadn't realized how much I'd missed solitude until that mome…
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 01:59 PM
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of course. marriage is a legal entanglement that isn't really needed to live a happy life. more people are seeing that (more men than women for now, but i've met a lot of women who are opening their eyes to it).
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 01:47 PM
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Or they are men who just don't want to get married because of personal preference or because they're gay or asexual.
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 09:06 PM
1

Why get married at all of you have to pay lawyers just to break up? Divorce is expensive.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/21 11:41 PM
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You married a woman after only 8 months? Divorce and don't make that mistake again, man. Get to know her a few years.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/21 10:57 AM
0

Kindness and respect are speaking for relationships, not sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:45 PM
2

Start off a bit slow but gets pretty good when he explains the simple methods of practicing concentration.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 02:30 PM
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Bought some stock for me. Bought some for my son as well. Exercise is on track for the weel. Have a couple of online Zoom meetings with a friend in Europe who's helping me learn another language; this weekend, I start another semester of said language. Almost done learning Moonlight Sonata on the piano. Life is good.
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 06:32 PM
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I don't really come here to discuss women.
/r/MGTOW211/01/21 03:57 PM
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Men don't put in as much effort into looking good For the larger portion of the population this may be true, but the ratio of men to women at the gym is very high. Now that I'm getting older (40s) few women my age seem to not care about actually doing something about their appearance other than throw on some makeup and put on clothes that conceals their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:57 PM
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So true, for me at least. When my drive went down enough for me to actually think about what real qualities I wanted in a woman (plus, finally having enough relationship experience to know what attributes are viable), good relationship prospects have dwindled significantly. Good thing I like being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:53 PM
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I would never want to be a breadwinner, and I make a pretty great living. I'd rather do half the chores and have a whole other income. I could understand 1 parent stays home while a baby is being raised, but once they start school, there's no need for someone to just sit at home all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:32 AM
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In a low or medium COL area and with savvy budgeting, 90k is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:13 AM
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I would. I love my kids too much, I couldn't bear to live without them. I worked out a fair monthly amount with my son's mom, though, so the court didn't screw me over as hard. After she got over her spiteful phase, which took years, life became a little more peaceful. My sons were worth it all. What I would change is never sharing credit cards with a woman. Her debtors cleaned me out and destroyed my credit after the divorce. For a brief instance, I was so distraught I considered suicide. Thank…
/r/MGTOW208/01/21 11:06 AM
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Depends on the individual. MGTOW, for some, does mean taking out their relationship failures on women; it's sad, really. Much of that animosity is rooted in their relationships with their mothers and/or from being in toxic relationships. I like women. I have women friends, a daughter, an imperfect mother who did the best she could (I see this now, and I appreciate her for it), and a few women who I casually date. I just won't be in a relationship anymore. I don't function well in relationships; …
/r/MGTOW206/01/21 08:25 PM
3

Try sleeping diagonally. It's now my favorite spot, although I still gravitate to the right side often.
/r/Divorce_Men06/01/21 11:33 AM
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She was joking, I'm sure, but oftentimes there's a little seriousness in one's humor. I wouldn't like that in a partner. I've been with controlling women, and lemme tell ya, it ain't no walk in the park, and it starts with little things like this.
/r/MGTOW206/01/21 10:51 AM
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Yeah, man. I'm no pro, but I'll share what I know. I bought a Yamaha keyboard earlier today.
/r/MGTOW201/01/21 04:55 AM
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Continue growing. I'm several semesters into a new language course; going to continue learning. Read more; I've been slacking on this one. Learn a few more songs on the guitar. Considering picking up playing the piano again, but I have a lot of self improvement projects already, so still debating on this one. 5 week motorcycle trip through the northwest and southwest US.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 01:49 PM
1

Nice, man. Married to yourself.
/r/MGTOW229/12/20 03:10 PM
1

Hahaha. Just tell them yes.
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 08:45 PM
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Men and women both get hated on for not wanting kids. We, the men, are called selfish, and women are annoyingly told, "You'll change your mind. You'll see." I don't know WTF it is with people thinking everyone has to think and live their lives like them.
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 12:04 PM
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30 minute drive or less. Picking them up and dropping them off starts to feel time consuming after a while.
/r/Divorce_Men27/12/20 04:46 AM
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Good for you, man. A bigger net worth has also been my result of GMOW. We also can't forget that self love doesn't mean hating others.
/r/MGTOW226/12/20 01:56 PM
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I just like having the day off and being able to go to the gym and work on my hobbies for as long as I want, uninterrupted. I love not having to buy presents. I don't like shopping, wasting money on stuff that's just going to sit in a closet, and worst of all, being accused of not caring or thinking about my significant other. I used to do things for my GFs all throughout the year, but if I didn't want to on this one day of the year, I was an asshole. No thanks!
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 01:16 PM
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She just wants a clear conscious. Good on you for not responding. Let her deal with the result of her decisions. The part about her flirting with her "friend" while yall were out, that one struck. Same shit happened to me when we were out spending "quality time" for my birthday.
/r/Divorce_Men25/12/20 12:21 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking, regarding the I just wanted to get laid comment. The women commenting are projecting themselves onto the women who he's just sleeping with and are getting offended because they feel the emotions of being settled for and being used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 11:57 AM
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From my limited reading of FDS, they define the "wrong type" of man as a man who won't idolize her. That sounds toxic, no matter the gender, especially in this day and age where couples really need to work together with a home's finances and responsibilities to make it an emotionally balanced home. Personally, to me FDS women set off a vibe of "what's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine. I want to have all my independence plus you have to support my lifestyle." That's not the mentality of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:48 AM
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I totally accept women as having sex for their own pleasure. Do you, girl. BUT, what I won't accept is a relationship with a woman who holds back awesome sexual experiences with me but is/has been willing to have them with someone else. Maybe she's not feeling those things anymore. Alright, cool. That doesn't mean I have to settle for the new, boring version of her. I enjoy adventurous sex; if she's not willing to have those adventures with me, then I say we aren't compatible and I walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:31 AM
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I stopped dating for a short period. During that time, I did a lot of reading (focusing on human and relationship behavior), played some musical instruments, caught up on my movie list, exercised and focused on health, and focused on wealth building. I missed dating, however. I like feminity, getting to know women, and sex. I like crushing on someone. So I started dating again. I just don't let those emotions blind me from my life goals. And, I avoid unnecessary entanglements by being upfront ab…
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:37 AM
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Awesome. Good luck, brother. Dave Ramsey youtube channel has been very helpful in keeping me on track with money organization.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:10 AM
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You're raging right now, man, and you most certainly have a right to be angry. I've been there, with an ex wife who left to be with another guy. I got over the heartbreak several months after she left, but the rage stayed for years and years. All that anger and hatred for women was not good for me. I know a lot of guys are against it, but therapy with a good therapist (in my case, I chose a man who's around my age, speaks like I do, and has gone through some shit himself) and reading a lot of in…
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:02 AM
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Never. It's usually gifted to me.
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 01:08 PM
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$95 for a 3.4 oz bottle?? I was gonna buy some but fuck that!
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 02:39 AM
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Excellent, thanks for the info. I've seen them pop up for things I've wanted to buy but always thought it was some kind of scam.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 02:35 AM
1

So what's the deal with Alibaba?
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 11:39 AM
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People sacrifice far too much for the sake of companionship. I can't see myself bringing anyone into my home and letting them take over, and putting me into a corner like that. I paid for my house, it's my domain.
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 11:37 AM
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I've done a modified version of the Ramsey plan. Now I just watch my spending. I'm glad I found him and Chris Hogan so I could follow people who are more like me, moneywise. So much of our culture has a spend, spend, spend mentality. People judge the shit out of us for working towards being debt free. They make sour faces and say we're depriving ourselves of living because we don't buy luxury cars or bigger homes every time we get a raise. "Things" just don't bring me any fulfillment.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 12:56 PM
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watch the Debt Free Screams on his channel instead. Those are really motivating.
/r/MGTOW209/12/20 12:43 PM
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Amen, sister. IMO, the population needs to live in a way that we don't NEED each other economically. The market has made it so that too many people need to get into relationships to join finances just to get by.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 01:53 PM
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Good for them! I'm sure they have their own set of problems when dating, so I totally understand why they did it. The dating world can be pretty damn cold.
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 01:49 PM
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This is MGTOW 1 material
/r/MGTOW208/12/20 12:11 PM
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This. I am my own competition.
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 04:55 PM
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yeah, but I'm changing game plans, man. After this HELOC is paid off, I'm gonna SAVE, SAVE, SAVE and try to buy properties cash. If I have to take out a mortgage for nicer places, it will be with a super big down payment, a 15 year mortgage, and all rental income will go to pay it off in 5 years or less. Rinse, repeat. LOL, dude, I hear that. I got out the USMC back in 01. Not as lean as I was back then, but I also have more muscle mass now, so I'm still in decent shape. It's not easy, though.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 09:18 PM
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yes, but there's no need to walk in a minefield at all. We can have relationships with the people around us, form bonds with friends, or have simple and practical relationships with people (you help me, I'll help you). as far as sex, you can find that on Tinder, or some guys pay for it.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 09:07 PM
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Well, for me it's experience. (For the record, I'm not edgy at all. I date; I'm just non committal, especially to cohabitation and marriage). I got cleaned out from divorce; so I'll never do that again. Years afterwards, I cleared out my head and focused on my career and hobbies. I found that I have achieved a lot more when I am not in a relationship. Relationships held me back; I'm not necessarily blaming my ex girlfriends, I just lose focus when I have someone. I become distracted by the atten…
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 09:04 PM
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debt free, baby!! good job, man! Good for you on losing all that weight too. I'm hitting the gym trying to gain more muscle, so I have to eat. Plus, I like eating. I have a HELOC that I'm paying off. It was used to buy some rental properties, though. I don't owe much on it and gonna pay it off ASAP. I've been studying another language. Making great progress. Learned Sister Golden Hair on the guitar. Not a hard song, but I at least have another song to keep me entertained, and learning music feel…
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 08:39 PM
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You're not compatible and will hold each other back from achieving your dreams. She wants marriage, you don't. She wants kids, you don't. You really need to let her go so each of you can pursue the lives each of you wants.
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 02:33 PM
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That's because it's fake, man. That comment has "preposterous" written all over it.
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 02:27 PM
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Well, clearly you both wanted different things. You were interested in dating, and she was interested in friendship... with certain strings attached. It's okay if someone isn't interested. That's normal, and it shouldn't be held against them. However, when the uninterested party wants all that friendly, flirty affection, that shit ain't cool. It's manipulative. That kind of interaction plays with the interested party's mind and emotions. It's always best to not have people like that in your circ…
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 02:16 PM
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She thinks of him often, tho. lol
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 11:20 AM
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Been there, brotha. Ex left for her affair partner when I had a semester and a half left; and I was in engineering so classes only became more difficult every semester. I was working full time, too. I didn't know what she was going to do about our son; would she move away with him? Would she try to get majority custody and minimize my time with him? She threatened both of these things to get what she wanted in the divorce. It really broke me at the time. But, I kept moving. I kept working, payin…
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/20 12:02 PM
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Sorry to see you go. We need more level heads around here. I agree that too many posts revolve around a paranoid hatred of women. And, like you, I've considered leaving this sub for the same reasons. Every now and then, however, I come across a good post or comment I can relate to. Many of them were yours, actually. It sucks that you feel you need to go, but if you feel it's in your best interest, I totally support that. I wish you luck, man.
/r/MGTOW202/12/20 01:03 AM
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I didn't read all of it, but your sister sounds like my brother.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 04:02 PM
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No marriage, no cohabitation. Those are the original rules. That's what I follow. For my personal preference, I won't finance anyone's lifestyle, I will not allow my sex drive to be used to manipulate me, and I won't have anymore kids.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 03:37 AM
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Normally I don't watch videos of people rambling, but I liked this one. He focused on how we should replace screen time with pursuing goals. It was motivating, even though I do stay pretty busy pursuing my personal goals. It's nice to see other men doing the same. I see women do it all the time; they shove dating and sex aside and they focus on themselves. Meanwhile, men are constantly driven by pussy and wasting hours out of every day playing video games.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 01:40 PM
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A lot of men here have children. They just went TOW some time after the divorce/custody battle.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 12:11 PM
2

I can understand if you look at a situation and decide the risk to reward ratio is not worth it I see your point now that you've stated this. That is a pretty defeatist reason to not try something. Still, one of the most agreed upon beliefs here is that relationships offer little reward.
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 12:09 PM
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I don't care. I've gone ny own way, lol. JK, I do care some. MGTOW2 has helped me better myself, and it could help others as well. A bad rap would deter them from looking at GTOW as an option.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 02:53 AM
5

Agreed. Hating half the world isn't good for self, nor for the world.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 02:42 AM
4

I do believe in equal opportunity regardless of gender, which is why I think it was originally founded, long ago. Today, however, I don't really give a shit about what they're complaining about.
/r/MGTOW222/11/20 02:44 PM
1

Are you going to include punctuation in said book?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 01:04 AM
0

A fair judgment.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 11:49 AM
9

I mean “male chores” should be mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters, taking out the trash at best At best? I'd say at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 10:01 AM
1

Lawnmowers can be creepy sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:59 AM
4

Wouldn't that be more like California?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:56 AM
0

Not true. A lesbian friend of mine got fucked hard by the court regarding child custody (she gave birth) and over the home they'd bought together. She lost all her down payment, plus had to back pay years worth of mortgage payments.
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 09:49 AM
5

My takeaway though is that University and college is basically the worst thing for a woman. A good education allows them to support themselves. What, do you want to go back to the days where you have to support a whole family on your own? You wanna be back on the plantation? Screw that. I, personally, like where society is going. I don't want to spend my entire life breaking my back serving other people. Now, I have options. Plus, I don't wish the slavery of dependence on anyone, women or men.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 11:20 AM
1

Lotta positivity in this post. Definitely saving it. Congrats on finding happiness and self fulfillment, man.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 11:34 PM
1

Bad for the environment and water system. I now rinse it out and throw it in the trash.
/r/MGTOW208/11/20 08:12 AM
5

Most people stay with family or friends when they leave or are kicked out of their marriage.
/r/MGTOW208/11/20 08:03 AM
1

She won't appreciate it, and may even see it as a sign of weakness. So don't.
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/20 07:56 AM
1

Up voted. I believe in MGTOW as far as marriage and cohabitation, but all the hate... that's not MGTOW to me.
/r/MGTOW207/11/20 05:03 AM
2

I think this could cause the divorce rate to decline over the next few decades. The more stable people will be the ones getting married. Those of us who have doubts are clearly not qualified enough to trust (leading to emotional instability within the relationship), nor find quality partners. It won't stop kids from being born out of wedlock, but the court systems will have less people to leech off of with alimony and property division and such. Now, if we could only find a way to prevent unqual…
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 01:38 PM
2

Small animal shelters generally use just about every dollar. Plus, you can just volunteer your time. You'll see the dogs' appreciation most of the time.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 01:23 PM
3

You can have a paid off house and 10 million dollars in your account. A (stereo)typical woman will still say no to a 2nd date because she wants that money spent on her, not your house or investments or your future, for that matter.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 01:04 PM
1

Why not buy a house for say $300k cash and not pay any rent and invest the rest? Do you live in an expensive housing area that prevents this? Just curious, because I can't ever go back to renting when I am now a landlord. Maybe I could to stay mobile and move around the country/world, but I need a home base (mostly because I have a kid, plus, I just fucking hate moving).
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 12:56 PM
1

Amen. I say this to myself often: "The rich got rich by acting poor; the poor stay poor by acting rich."
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 12:50 PM
2

It sounds like you're handling it well, to me, man. Good luck to your brother.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 12:48 PM
1

Definitely. Maybe it's subtle in the majority of cases, but that behavior can't just disappear. It's a part of human nature, a reactionary subconscious mindset based on upbringing. You can't just delete a part of our nature in one (or even several) generation(s).
/r/RedPillWomen03/11/20 04:27 PM
1

Wanted. A needy woman (partner) is basically just another mouth to feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 12:11 AM
1

How is being a provider a bad thing? I think she was referring to the type of man who gives his paycheck to his wife in addition to doing whatever she says.
/r/RedPillWomen03/11/20 12:04 AM
2

you've made some really good observations. I didn't think about how those men are really the betas of the household and the women control them. No commitment allows me to live how I want. I date according to my rules and I only find women that align with my thinking. Usually, they're the independent, professional types, however, they can't be the type to want a doormat out of the men they date. Also, if they're divorced and closer to 40+ years old, they usually don't care about getting married a…
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/20 11:55 PM
2

I support them doing their own thing. Good for them.
/r/MGTOW202/11/20 12:31 AM
2

This is what MGTOW is really about.
/r/MGTOW202/11/20 12:26 AM
2

When I was a child, my grandmother and mother would say that men were just bad and that women were the victims of men. So, I guess in some ways yes, I grew up feeling that I was inferior and I needed to protect my partner and make up for all of men's misdeeds. The inferiority did also make me feel like I was lucky she chose me as well; not a good feeling. And yes, I couldn't communicate my needs because I thought that's what it was supposed to be like: I was a servant by being the bread winner, …
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/20 12:18 AM
4

Prenuptial agreements are to protect everything BEFORE you get married. If you get married then spend a decade building a company yourself and all she did was work a dinky 30k/yr job for her own spending money during all that time, she's entitled to half your business.
/r/MGTOW231/10/20 10:38 PM
65

My only concern with this type of scenario is the relationship turning into a Savior/Damsel in Distress relationship. The guy does a lot of work in the relationship, and in time he realizes how much more work he does, then he subconsciously becomes resentful of his wife. She ends up being thrown off guard because to her, he's not acting his normal self. I've experienced this as the man in the relationship. It ruined several relationships. In my last relationship, I caught myself and started aski…
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/20 10:24 PM
1

No way, not for custody. That was still difficult, and although she kept him from me at first, she realized her life was easier if she had my help with his doc visits, school functions, etc. She had less grounds to sue me for (can't ask for alimony or any other living expenses outside of our kids), so at least I had that going for me. She kept him from me out of spite, BTW. I knew that, but she actually confessed that she just wanted to hurt me. That's another thing guys need to look out for. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 08:29 PM
1

People in general change every 5-10 years. Some couples just change in a way that keeps them going in the same direction. Think back on your life in 5 year increments, starting at year 0, and reflect on how circumstances have changed and how you've changed with them. That doesn't stop. I have 3 kids. 2 are adults (1 in college and 1 in the military) and 1 in high school. My exes (1 with ex wife, 2 with exgf) and I raised them in a 2 parent homes. Each of the moms and I worked as a team, once all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 11:20 AM
2

Well, anecdotal data is data that can be applied to that individual. I now know that I am not marriage material (and neither is my ex wife, although she keeps trying; on her 3rd husband). I also know that we are taught by society and the media, falsely may I add, that marriage can be made to work. That, IMO, applies to only a few couples, which your stats say 65% (for UMC), which considering how much one can lose in divorce, is still not a good enough chance of success for a person like me. No, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:54 AM
1

I know how to manage occasional loneliness way more than permanent unhappiness being chained to a person who 1) doesn't like me anymore, or 2) I don't like anymore. I'm also aware that my tastes change every 5-10 years, so there's no point in making such a permanent decision, or one that's unnecessarily difficult to get out of. Getting married with the idea that you'll just get a divorce if you don't like it is costly and unnecessary. I have too many investments to risk playing house. I want tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:44 AM
1

You think I'm ignoring data? I have first hand data, lady. You're talking to a guy who has been cleaned out and had his credit destroyed from divorce, not mentioning having to fight to see my son. It took me a decade to get back on financial track, and I've gotten more accomplished as a single man than I ever did in any relationship. I know the real risks of marriage first hand, and I now know how much more I can accomplish without a partner. Statistical data is one thing; personal experience is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:33 AM
1

We're clearly taking about different things. You're talking about ups and downs. I'm talking about being unhappy the majority of the time because you're stuck in living situation you don't want to be in. That's what an unhappy marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 10:23 AM
2

"I'm old fashioned, I like FaceTime"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/20 08:27 AM
1

Those stats match the divorce rate stats. That's pretty coincidental. And they still aren't good. You have a 35% chance of ending up in an unhappy marriage that lasts, if your UMC. Those aren't good odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:56 AM
1

Stats also say that when men cheat, they don't want to leave their marriage. Women are the opposite, but feel like they can't at that time. So I don't believe the UMC stats because I know several UMC people who cheat and want to keep their facade of a happy marriage and traditional life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:19 AM
1

Just because they're still married doesn't mean they're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:17 AM
1

Pussies get/stay married all the time because they fear being alone, so they deal with marital problems or trade away their independence for marriage. I think most lasting marriages stay because of this. The people just don't want to deal with transitioning back to single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:18 AM
1

I wouldn't get on a ship that has a 40% chance of sinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:11 AM
1

Parents can provide 2 single parent homes and still provide stability for the children. I've done it for my sons, and they're happy, great kids. Marriage doesn't guarantee stability for children; emotionally stable parents do. Sex with the same person gets boring, period. It doesn't matter if you do it in public places, change positions, have boring romantic dinners, go on vacation together, etc, the shit just gets boring due to familiarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:09 AM
2

And of those who stay together, how many don't involve infidelity, or 1 or both people who don't like each other anymore but stay for the children or convenience? No one wants to end up there either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:04 AM
14

Furniture they don't want to sit on, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 08:23 AM
2

I'm sorry you're going through this, man. Know that it will pass. It may take several years but you and your kid will eventually get through it. I don't know what it is that some women just feel like if they don't love you anymore, they have to hate and destroy you. Yes, some men are the same way, but from a man's position it feels more damning when they have the law automatically on their side.
/r/Divorce_Men29/10/20 08:14 AM
5

There are so many Black, Asian, Indian, Hispanic, etc MGTOW Youtubers out there, I don't see how they came to that conclusion, other than ignorance on their part. They probably read a few racist poster's comments on MGTOW1 and just based it on those few idiots. Either way, fuck Wiki's bullshit definition. I stopped donating to them after reading that shit.
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 11:11 AM
3

I can absolutely relate to this post. When married (divorced 17 years ago), my life was about pleasing the wife. I got into debt for that, feeding her consumerist dopamine. We didn't have much at that time, but I told her to just hold on until I graduated. I was in college and working full time. She instead cheated and left me for another, more fun guy. Afterwards, I graduated, regained my bearing (which took some years), focused on my new career, my son, fitness, and MY goals: investments, moto…
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 11:01 AM
4

On days I'm not feeling it, I go with the intent to do a light workout for just 15 minutes. It's rare that I actually stick to light and short once I start hitting it. On the rare days that I do stick to light and short, I at least gave that day's muscle group a little resistance to prevent muscle loss. You never leave the gym regretting that you worked out, so at least give it a go for 15 minutes. Then go do something you wanna do. Another thing for me was timing. After work there was always a …
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 10:37 AM
2

Whenever I see these super long posts I think they're fake, written by some guy who fantasizes about victimization and regaining his power over an unfaithful woman.
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 02:57 PM
3

Thank you! I'm growing tired of these posts where guys are complaining about women. Maybe we need. MGTOW3 where complaining about women is a rule and strictly enforced. Hell, I'd rather read a story about a guy finding a good and rare woman for a partner.
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 02:46 PM
19

Me too. To his credit, his current marriage has lasted 12 years and they appear to be really happy. One marriage and divorce was enough for me, though, especially after almost losing everything.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 02:23 PM
3

Hahaha never thought of it that way.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 01:58 AM
2

Nice! I thought about making one out of steel, but I like your idea better. I don't lift super heavy, so strong wood would do just fine. Did you follow plans from the internet or just designed it yourself?
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 07:28 PM
3

Oh, so you've.... gone your own way? I passed your phase years ago, and let me tell you, happiness only increases because you're not surrounded or affected by negative people. You're on a good path. I encourage you and anyone on this course to (stay) focus(ed) on physical and mental health for overall well being
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 04:15 PM
1

Each gender lies and/or draws inaccurate conclusions with incomplete data. I've been cleaned out in a divorce and gone through enough shit in my life that I don't have to dwell on these data anymore. I'm now aimed in the direction of happiness. That's why I left MGTOW and came to MGTOW2.
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 04:10 PM
4

There's always adoption
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 10:03 AM
1

FWB or better yet fuck buddies. Finding a woman that just wants to hook up and won't catch feelings is hard, but a good arrangement if you can find it.
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 09:59 AM
1

Always get a paternity test before signing anything. Always.
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 09:54 AM
3

This post sounds like MRA whining, to me. We all know there is discrimination towards men, and also to women, to whites and to blacks and every other race, to people who speak any particular language or who are from the South or from the North or the East Coast or the West Coast, dog lovers versus cat lovers, etc, etc, etc. There's more than enough intolerance and prejudice to go around. So what? The Men of MGTOW2 are here to escape this victim mentality and to focus on our own mental and physic…
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 10:26 PM
3

I take plenty of risk: skydiving, motorcycle riding (previously played around with stunt riding) and bike trips into the wilderness, sex with multiple partners, etc. I weigh what I'll gain from my risks, however. Personally, I don't gain anything from committed relationships and even less from marriage. Marriage doesn't make me happy because it forces my life to slow down to a crawl: I have to ask permission to walk out the door, to go on vacation, compromise simple decisions like where to eat, …
/r/MGTOW220/10/20 10:38 AM
1

Added to my DVD queue
/r/MGTOW220/10/20 10:22 AM
3

Great list.
/r/MGTOW215/10/20 08:22 PM
1

He talks like that mullet wearing idiot on The Walking Dead.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 02:07 PM
5

All I do is cut the grass, cut low hanging branches, and edging. It rains enough where I live that I never have to water. I recently planted a crape myrtle in a pot in the hopes to replace a tree in my yard that I hate. It produces inedible fruit that litters my back yard. And yeah, been loving the outside weather.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 11:07 AM
1

I don't bring up the subject with my family members, but they used to bring it up from time to time. All I have to do is mention my divorce rape and they back off.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 10:45 AM
7

Did you put compromise on that list? And I'm not just talking compromising on what's for dinner. You have to compromise fun, money, personal growth, etc. You have to share your life with that person, which means taking time away from yourself and things you want to do and learn.
/r/MGTOW209/10/20 06:39 PM
3

I read that as her wanting to be taken care of... like a teenage child.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/20 05:55 PM
2

She wanted to start anew, so I kept the house after paying her half the agreed upon equity, which was 5 grand, which I had to struggle to come up with because I was broke and still in college. The house was a bit of a fixer upper. It's been 17 years since the divorce, and the house has been paid off, fixed up, and now brings me rental income. She has credit card debt, a car note, a mortgage, no investments, and more kids to support. It took a lot of discipline and delayed gratification to get he…
/r/Divorce_Men09/10/20 05:43 PM
0

It's not about my opinion nor whether I like the topic or not. Read the sub rules. This isn't a sub to complain and whine about women.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 03:08 AM
1

Their beliefs are their choice. We can focus on our own lives and what makes us happy.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:58 PM
-1

Curse and whine about it all you want with your barely comprehensible sentences, complaining about women isn't the focus of this sub. That's what MGTOW1 is for.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:56 PM
0

I don't see what this has to do with going your own way.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:39 PM
12

What kind of question is this? Of course, they're professionals who studied medicine. Studies have shown that men and women have similar IQs, generally speaking. If laziness, unprofessionalism, carelessness, or dimwittedness are an issue, it's with the individual, not an entire gender.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:38 PM
5

It's not. It doesn't belong here.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:32 PM
-3

This belongs on MGTOW1. Not here.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 11:31 PM
1

Ha! He was a pretty dope dude.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:48 AM
2

Satan. That motherfucker keeps it real.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:46 AM
1

True. He only cared about one female and that's his daughter. Oh wait, he did marry Robin.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:46 AM
4

Dr Dre, a very famous rapper. He was in NWA and then went off on his own and introduced the world to Snoop Dog, Tupac, Eminem, 50 Cent, etc. His ex wife is trying to get a large cut of his life's work.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:40 AM
2

or haven't found the right one yet. I never say that. It encourages the older women in the family to try and match you with someone: "I know the perfect girl for you!" Fuck that.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:37 AM
2

Yeah, you're right. However, some say that because we refuse to get back on the marriage/ family bandwagon it's because we're letting our past (relationship) experiences control us. I can see that logic, but I counter with the fact that I'm growing much more now that I'm out of a marriage, and a committed relationship would distract from that growth. Relationships require time, money, and energy. Yes, I'm going against my biology, but I don't have to conform to man-made traditions like marriage.…
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:33 AM
3

Very well put. I admit to still being addicted to my biological drive, and I've been practicing GMOW for 17 years. I've had relationships (no marriage, no cohabitation), FWBs, flings, etc, but I won't compromise beyond that. It'd be cool if I could let those urges go, but honestly, I don't want it bad enough.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:17 AM
9

Right! Women and society can do whatever they want. We'll do whatever we want. End of story.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:11 AM
2

Damn. Nice, bro. It must feel so good not having that pressure on your shoulders.
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 01:10 AM
1

True... VERY true. But success requires focus, so if a man is pursuing success....
/r/MGTOW202/10/20 03:40 PM
3

If a person has their head on straight and they are emotionally independent, they can accomplish much more without a relationship because they can focus on the work that will get them where they want to be. As basic as that sounds, a lot of people don't know this. Maybe it's because they need emotional distraction, or because they need a relationship or a family for motivation. The latter doesn't work for many men because they have to neglect work to give attention to their wives, or they have t…
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 10:06 PM
68

I read that guy's story. He's a door mat. He moved when she wanted to move, quit his job for the move, took pay cuts, tried for a kid when she wanted, got a vasectomy because she wanted, etc. He allows himself to be manipulated. He's definitely a special case. Not sure he can be helped.
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 12:34 PM
1

Instinct. We're driven by our primal brains to appeal to women, and providing is how males have done it over various species over the millenia. Some men are simply deciding to not listen to that instinct. Others do.
/r/MGTOW229/09/20 03:15 PM
1

Thanks for the award!
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 06:01 PM
1

Well thought out, and well written. Thanks for your response!
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 09:42 AM
2

Awesome list! And a big +1 for Dave Ramsey... except for his advice to get married, lol.
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 09:29 AM
1

I decided I didn't want to answer to anyone anymore. Every relationship involved too much compromise, constantly validating someone else to make them feel better, and worst of all, constantly apologizing for something. I don't know if I made a bad boyfriend or if too much was expected of me, but I got sick of all that work. Also, I get to save more money now. My dollar stretches a lot farther because I only have to pay for myself at restaurants, vacations, events, experiences, etc. Then there's …
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 12:59 AM
3

Yes, in a way. We argued and I stood up for myself, but I also allowed her to manipulate me because I wanted so badly for her to be happy. I wanted to give her the world, and that in turn made her ask for more and more. I learned a lot from that woman, my ex-wife. I learned that people will take every bit of what you have to offer and give as little as they have to in return. So, it's important to guard yourself, guard your emotions, and always put yourself first. In the end, we ended in divorce…
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 12:47 AM
5

He's probably fishing for women's validation. I used to think like this guy. It was rooted in feeling beneath women and unworthy. I craved their validation, felt obligated to protect them like a white knight, felt in servitude to them. Basically, I felt like it was honorable to sacrifice myself for them. I was just raised like that... by my mom. Then I got a taste of the real world. Women were not as innocent as she'd made them out to be. Men weren't all selfish, hurtful people. In the end, my"s…
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 12:26 AM
2

I don't think it's about the money when women have this expectation. I don't even think it's about being traditional. I think it's about validation. If a man asks a woman out and pays for her, it boosts her feeling of self worth. She wants to feel worthy of being treated, or even spoiled. She wants to be put on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 11:41 AM
2

For me it still involves dating some but not committing to anyone. I'm upfront about no marriage, no cohabitation. If a woman wants more, she has to find a guy that wants what she wants. I also keep an emotional distance, for the most part. I pretty much only date for fun. I focus most of my time on personal growth: reading, therapy for emotional well being and it helps me accept my lifestyle of non attachment, learning more languages, playing instruments, investments, spending time with my kids…
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 12:23 AM
2

I really think, and this is just my opinion, if all things were truly equal, then marriage wouldn't matter. There's no practical way to measure that however. You'd need families with unmarried parents who have healthy relationships and are mentally and emotionally nurturing for a fair comparison; most of those people, coincidentally, lean towards marriage, which is what I think throws off those statistics.
/r/MGTOW224/09/20 02:58 PM
6

Although statistics do point in the direction of children of married parents having more stability, I think the sources need to go deeper into why that is. I don't believe that it's marriage that makes those kids stable and productive; I think it's the emotional availability of the parents, whether they are married or not. Married people also generally have better incomes. However, impoverished people usually make poor decisions in several aspects of life, so is it really marriage that makes peo…
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 10:11 PM
2

I was taught, in a way, by my mom to worship women. It didn't get me anywhere when I came of dating age, lol. The girls wanted the assholes who acted like girls were expendable. Worshipping anyone is truly weakness and submission. The only time I can understand it is when it's reciprocated (but that's a slippery slope and an unlikely pairing to find) or when it's role play and all parties are in accordance.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 11:39 AM
5

I won't consider marriage with any of them. I've met far too many "good and wholesome" looking women (without tattoos, even) who had a dark side for cheating (sexually, physically, or financially) or knowingly were men's side women. That's why tattoos don't matter to me. IMO, you're fooling yourself if tattoos are a tell tale sign of bad/good.
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 11:24 AM
1

I have several. Just like with guy friends, we discuss anything, but I do notice more topics about relationships come up with my woman friends, and also the environment and animals. Meanwhile, with my guy friends, we discuss more things like finance and mechanics. A couple of my woman friends are in relationships or married and very dedicated to their relationships, so far. Most of my woman friends, however, are single, who's relationships just didn't work out, or they keep picking bad men for r…
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 06:57 AM
7

That's a popular opinion
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 06:49 AM
-4

I'm a guy with tattoos, and I don't understand the prejudice against tattoos or women with tattoos. I think it's just that men and women who judge tatts harshly are just very conservative. They don't like tattoos so they equate them to being trashy. Plus, tattoos were historically for "bad" people like biker gang members. Now they've become mainstream but the stigma lives on in conservative people's minds. Of course, there is also the stereotype of the young woman (or man for that matter) who li…
/r/MGTOW221/09/20 06:47 AM
1

Dismissive avoidants tend to be social. Fearful avoidants, I believe, tend to be more reclusive.
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/20 02:52 PM
1

I'm a guy who has pretty good relationship and sexual market values, and even when I date a woman at a lower value than me, I start to feel unworthy ONLY when I become emotionally attached. It's caused by my attachment style which is dismissive avoidant, which is rooted in one's upbringing, including as an infant. It's completely subconscious and requires therapy and work on the person's part.
/r/RedPillWomen10/09/20 09:48 AM
1

Myth. Even if she were unattractive, I'd still be flattered that she asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:29 AM
1

I guess I didn't write that accurately. I am trying less, therefore I am getting less. Women aren't avoiding me. I still get interest when I try. I'm sure you've had women friends who've grown tired of the dating game and decided to quit, even if just temporarily, and I'm sure you've understood and maybe even empathize with their POV. Well, I'm just the guy version of those friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:19 AM
11

Good post. It made me realize that I don't think I exude that much of an interesting personality anymore, and truthfully, I don't really care anymore. I have learned a lot to become much more interesting over the last few years but my pull in the dating world has actually lessened. My career is on point, I'm pretty fit, get compliments on my looks often enough, travel a lot, adventurous, financial and personal goals, can fix cars and stuff around the house, play the piano and the guitar, fairly …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:48 AM
3

Yeah, I have a friend in the field. No issues from what I can tell. Also, I enjoy learning about finance and planning my financial future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:22 PM
5

what's wrong with working in finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:38 PM
1

Poor with her finances. Have a retirement account and a solid financial plan. Finger pointers: "I'm oppressed because of _______." I prefer a woman who feels like her destiny is in her hands. cherry picking feminists: "I want absolute equality, but I expect you to make plans to entertain me and pay for it." I believe in equal opportunity. Expecting me to cater to you is not equality. Traditional women. Nothing wrong with being traditional, it's just not a match for me. I want a woman who shows e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:31 PM
4

F that B!
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 12:32 AM
3

Awesome, I'm happy for you. Don't make that same mistake twice, brother.
/r/MGTOW203/09/20 12:31 AM
3

I always reply, "No. Marriage is not for me." Then they ask why. Then I say that I don't want to risk my kids' inheritance. Then I tell them about my friend who just lost almost a quarter million dollars in attorney's fees and judgments, and they only make $80k/year.
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/20 09:33 PM
21

This is why I Reddit.
/r/askTRP29/08/20 11:31 AM
3

Agreed. If you see his other posts, you can see that guy race baits. No point in arguing with him.
/r/MGTOW229/08/20 10:47 AM
11

Are there many of you on this list who do not fit the media stereotype that we are not just the same demographic as an alt right group? Yup. Latin, father of mixed race (Black) kids, middle aged, white collar professional (STEM), swing voter. I don't believe in hate, I believe everyone (all races, religions, and genders) should have equal opportunity, to strive for success. Also, I like dating women. It's the marriage system and all its legal ties that I'm separating from.
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 02:40 AM
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Not all women, but from my experience with 2 baby mamas, some (many) prioritize their spite above their children's mental well being and will therefore use their children as tools to spite their ex.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/20 08:02 AM
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Don't let her get under your skin. Focus on the kids and living up to the title of "Dad". My son's mother used to tell him that fathers were expendable but mothers weren't. I told him that wasn't true and to focus on our relationship. He's a man now and still looks up to me; he even joined the USMC because he wanted to follow in my footsteps. When he graduated boot camp, he said his goal was to be a better Marine than me. I told him he already was :)
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/20 08:00 AM
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I'm not into paying for sex, but I totally feel your point of view, man. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 01:42 AM
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You could watch a show together, like their favorite cartoons, while on video call. Then ask them about characters and stuff. Also, talk about little things that have no meaning, like what you ate for lunch, favorite foods, etc. Make them laugh with dumb jokes.
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/20 06:36 AM
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Man, I was gonna say we don't normally post about female nature on this sub, but I needed to hear all the comments in this post.
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 10:31 PM
1

This really was a good overall answer with some good life advice.
/r/askTRP23/08/20 10:25 PM
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It's not that it's a girls only club (I'm a guy), it's that it's not a matchmaker sub. The women here discuss relationship building techniques.
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/20 10:16 PM
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I'm on dating over 30 and 40 and other dating Reddits because I still date. I just won't marry again nor cohabitate nor have any more kids with anyone. That was the original MGTOW mantra. I'm also on surviving infidelity and the divorce subs because they keep me in check that I shouldn't trust anyone. Instinct, when dating, makes me want to have faith that a good relationship could exist for me, but real life experience with divorce, child custody fights, and having to rebuild my financial life …
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 08:32 PM
3

I think its because we're expected to just be tough. I think times are changing a TINY bit. I've heard more women say they prefer a guy who's wise enough to seek counseling when needed. Most women I know, however, act like they just want a guy to be tough, because they want a guy who appears to be in control.
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 05:11 PM
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This almost doesn't sound real, however, in case it is... Don't marry her. She's a party girl who thinks she's supposed to settle down now that she's at a certain age due to social or biological influences. In her core, though, she's a party girl. If you marry her, you will end up in divorce. You really need to read and learn what a stable, secure relationship is and learn how to be secure and genuinely confident (not cocky, which is false confidence) as well so you can have the will to let go o…
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 08:44 PM
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I absolutely will never remarry; that's a fact. I have way too much to lose, and I want my kids to get a healthy inheritance. I would consider a relationship if I found an impossibly rare woman: makes damn good money (preferably 6 figures) and is financially savvy, isn't looking for a man to subsidize her lifestyle, isn't materialistic, we share a mutual attraction for one another, is fine with not living together, doesn't want (anymore) kids, is emotionally intelligent and independent (not clin…
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 03:52 AM
3

Beautiful. Shadow looks like a wolf.
/r/Divorce_Men01/08/20 01:07 PM
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I agree with the title. Marriage has worked for a few people, but most end in divorce or unhappiness. I think that most men who have truly GTOW and hold no resentment just realize that it's not for them.
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 01:06 PM
1

Within the context of dating, I really don't think women want to be treated as equals. They want to be treated special without being treated too special lol This right here. I'm not doing this.
/r/MGTOW201/08/20 12:46 PM
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So many fake or boring people who seem to expect guys to entertain them. This is why I shut online dating (dating in general) out of my life. I felt like too many women were treating dating like an event where I have to prove myself. I'm no one's dancing monkey, nor do I want to be the source and financer of their entertainment.
/r/MGTOW231/07/20 10:54 AM
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the straight women in the office and the gay men would refer to straight men as "labradors" as in Labrador Retrievers: Sweet, simple, clueless and easy to manipulate This is one reason I don't trust women when they cry anymore. I used to have compassion for someone I thought was in that much pain, but after hearing several women say they use fake tears to get what they want, I start to think they may be manipulating me.
/r/MGTOW224/07/20 09:19 PM
1

Not sure what you mean by that. You mean don't tell someone that I liked their response?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:04 PM
7

Oorah, Devil Dog.
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/20 06:59 AM
2

You were giving great incite. Then that last sentence, LMAO!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 12:34 PM
2

If all you're going to do is call someone a fool for having a different POV but not provide yours and why, then yes it would need explaining. Or I probably should have just ignored your comment. No one said you can't/shouldn't have your own standards for your relationships/flings. I just said that what works for the person I was originally responding to wouldn't work for me, and I'd get out of that relationship. If they can't in a committed relationship but can do so otherwise, then that's not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 12:09 PM
1

Back up your argument. I've been in relationships where my GFs (2 different relationships) and I had threesomes and they dated women while with me as well. Sexually, we were very happy; I actually felt closer to them in each relationship. Each relationship ended for other reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:40 AM
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Because I like those things too, and I want the chance for us to carry our sex life to new levels. Sex is far too important for me to accept restrictions that she won't give herself, i.e. if she's willing to do threesomes with FWBs then she's willing to give herself that kind of fun, but not have it with me; that's just not fair if I want those experiences too. Bottom line, if a woman feels the way you do, then we're just not compatible in the bedroom in a LTR. We can either break up so we can f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:04 AM
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how tf your going to find out what someone did and did not do with other partners. Establish trust. Encourage dirty talk during sex. Share some of your dirty stories. Tell them to share theirs. If they did stuff with other people they aren't willing to do with you, bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:37 AM
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Sex is extremely important to me, especially experimental, non vanilla sex. If a woman won't try wild things with me, once we've developed good trust, but she was willing to with someone else, I won't stay in that relationship. I want to give my best to the person I end up with, and I expect the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:32 AM
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I encourage people to buy what suits their lifestyle. However, if a man wants to make a few bucks cutting yards, haul stuff, etc then yes, a truck is the way to go. It also allows for more independence because you don't have to rent or borrow a truck or trailer. The one thing I don't agree with is getting a gas guzzler if you aren't definitely going to pull heavy things. That just pulls money away from your wealth building investments. I have a V6 Tacoma because I needed a reliable 4 door (kids)…
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 08:27 AM
1

Good info. I currently own 4 rentals with very low debt. I could pay most of the loan off if I sold one property. I do Section 8 with one property so I always have steady money from the government. I recommend always changing the air filter yourself or checking for water leaks every 3 months so you can always see the upkeep. I also mow the lawns so I'm there weekly, except during winter.
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 02:04 AM
2

Answering those 3 questions was a pretty good exercise. Thanks.
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 12:10 AM
2

Ah. I hate when it does that.
/r/MGTOW221/06/20 10:37 PM
7

Sounds like she's still a train wreck
/r/askTRP21/06/20 07:09 PM
4

Rich Dad Poor Dad Millionaire Next Door The Curse of The High IQ That's a pretty long title
/r/MGTOW221/06/20 06:43 PM
1

Gross. This isn't r/MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW221/06/20 06:19 PM
1

Depends on how good she is at each. If a woman gives killer head, and if I'm in the mood for head, it can be head. Otherwise, I like the closeness of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 10:15 PM
1

Definitely update us how it's going from time to time. Good luck, man!
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 12:38 PM
1

Barely speak with my family since the COVID isolation. Before then, I attended dinners with aunts and uncles, would meet up for a beer here and there with an uncle, talked finances and upcoming travel plans, etc. I kind of miss it.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 12:34 PM
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I think about how if I had a partner I could cut my expenses in half. But I've been married and in relationships. Relationships cost money. Finding a woman who's on the same financial life plan as me is highly unlikely: she has to be a high earner AND a strong saver/investor. Then we have to be compatible in other areas such as no marriage, kids, sex, attraction, humor, etc. I'll just start my financial plan now and focus on achieving it, thank you.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 12:27 PM
3

Words to live by.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 11:27 AM
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you don't really see who's real and who's not before you marry them You don't know your wife until she's divorcing you.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 11:27 AM
1

Good, just don't be dismal with what you tell him. Divorce can leave our mindset pretty messed up for a while. Life has great and bad moments. Teach him preparedness, not bitterness.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/20 11:21 AM
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It's temporary, bro. You're not a loser. An equal percentage of marriage ends in divorce. Make a 1, 3, and 5 year plan and execute it. I worry about my sons getting shafted like this one day and having to come back to live with me one day, but I'll always have a spare room for them at my house. Either way, I've taught them to not combine finances, not disclose their entire finances to their SO's, to always prenup, only date women who have strong financial backgrounds, and to always be prepared t…
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/20 01:11 AM
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Women often show their entitlement during divorce. I always say you don't really know your wife until she's divorcing you. I hope this doesn't get me banned from this sub, but that's why I went MGTOW2: no marriage, no cohabitation.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/20 01:00 AM
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I agree but I've always known it as locker room talk. I wonder if men are as publicly vocal, like on their dating profile, about "No fat chicks." I see the height requirement quite often on women's profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:02 PM
2

I don't remember having a question, other than how marriage helped you go MGTOW, lol.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 06:58 PM
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Gotcha. I'm glad that you found a good partner. I had no such luck, but then again I am more wired to reach for mine on my own.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 06:41 PM
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I think if I'd gone MGTOW without the bad experiences in relationships and learning my attachment style (dismissive avoidant), I would have ended up wondering in my older years (43 now) if I'd made a mistake. Now that I know I don't feel comfortable with the financial risks that come with divorce and the heartbreak of child custody disputes (after having experienced it), I know MGTOW is definitely for me. Having to trust in an emotional connecting brings me way too much discomfort. I do date, st…
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 12:55 PM
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Got married and my wife has helped me go my own way. Weirdly enough I’m freer with her than without I'd like to hear how that worked out that way.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 12:45 PM
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I think because they equate all MGTOW with the first MGTOW subreddit.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 03:49 AM
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The woman you marry is not the woman you'll divorce. Oof! I'm remembering that one!
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 12:51 AM
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I can already hear the gaslighting starting "What's your deal bro? You're being oversensitive Don't entertain those remarks. Treat them as if he never said them and stick to your point. You don't have to answer to an irresponsible person. Make your stand, say what needs to be said calmly and firmly, and go do whatever you were going to do. No need to say anything else.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 12:34 PM
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For me, it's kind of a waste of time. I do play the guitar and piano a bit, but I'm done trying to impress women. Plus, I decided to focus on my job and side business, as playing musical instruments are unlikely to bring in any good money unless you're really good and know how to market yourself, AND you get a good break. My work brings money, and money affords a good therapist. Meanwhile, relationships = unpaid work; not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:04 PM
6

How about on a sticky note?
/r/MGTOW207/06/20 08:43 PM
1

Preventive maintenance: wear rubber gloves when working on engines and greasy things. It helps minimize cuts and grease getting into the cuts you do get. Plus it prevents oil and grease getting stuck in all your hands' crevices. Having to scrub grease out of a cut does not feel good! Plus, it lessens clean up time after the job is done. I buy a big box of thick mechanics rubber gloves online.
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 12:56 AM
1

Flossing is crazy important. Before bed is the best time. I had to do so much in root cleanings because I'd neglected flossing. I think it's called periodontal cleaning. You should do that once a year. My gums used to bleed a lot before I started getting that done, plus flossing.
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 12:49 AM
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We do pay more in taxes, but it still saves us more money in the long run. I get to invest all my discretionary money. Unless you can find a frugal partner, you're going to be paying for a wedding (and maybe a divorce), more house than you need, cars every few years, a whole bunch of shit you don't need that ends up crammed in the garage, expensive anniversaries that you may not really feel like celebrating at the time, etc. Finding a woman who's great with saving money and isn't materialistic h…
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 12:45 AM
1

It's only set me back about 2 or 3 pounds, although I'd gained 6 before I knew it. I exercised less for a while, but I'm back on it and feeling great. I was probably more productive with work in the office, but now I'm integrating productivity with personal things, e.g. instead of taking a break by just walking around the office, since I'm now working from home, I can go cut my lawn for 15 minutes, then resume my work. That leaves me more free time during the weekend. Plus, I can cook at home wh…
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 01:02 PM
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Initially the government stepped in to make deadbeat fathers , at the very least, financially care for their kids. After all, kids are expensive, and women certainly had less opportunity for wealth building back when the laws were established. The problem, IMO, is that divorce and child support have become very profitable for the courts and lawyers, and it's become more of a business. In order to have more control, lawyers have used politicians to pass laws which have loopholes that can be used …
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 12:54 PM
1

I don't think I could do NoFap. Otherwise, what you described is how I live my life: if a woman I find attractive approaches me, I'll go for it, but I won't chase women anymore, period. Life is so much more peaceful because I'm not dealing with trying to impress them. Instead, I do what I enjoy doing, learn new things, and focus on non sexual things. I also deleted sexy visuals from my every day social media, like ass Instagram pages, sexy model FB pages, etc, so I wouldn't be tempted by my jnst…
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 12:33 PM
1

It sounds like you're avoiding heartbreak and its associated emotions. In the process you can miss out on great experiences with lived ones. That's no way to live for me. I'll take the bad with the good. Death is inevitable. We can accept that it will come and cherish the moments we have. ...or we can crawl in a lonely hole and wait for death to come for us.
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 12:16 PM
1

Amen, brother
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 12:11 PM
1

Little things like brakes and oil changes can be done just about anywhere quickly and with basic sockets, wrenches, and a good jack and jack stands. It'll save your customers money and put some change in your pocket.
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 12:56 AM
1

Being independent means knowing how to fix your own car. Learn how to fix your own car. Get good enough at it and you can make money on the side fixing other people's cars.
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 12:21 PM
1

Working from home has thrown off my routine. I get more personal stuff done now, though. Instead of spacing out at my computer at the office during down time, I'll jump rope or sweep the floor or something. I spend a lot of time with my foster dog. Also, I'm learning German, and I do maintenance on my home and rental properties. None of this is on a timed routine, though. I kind of just do it as it comes. I think I will start making a time for everything so my life feels more in order, and so I …
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 12:18 PM
3

Amen. I kind of want to start a positive topic now... let me think....
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 12:11 PM
1

Watch out she doesn't "accidentally" get pregnant.
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 12:02 PM
1

And don't get her pregnant!!!!
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 12:02 PM
1

Well written. It kind of reminds me of my story with my ex wife.
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 11:59 AM
4

Yup. I think there's a rule about "not discussing female nature."
/r/MGTOW224/05/20 11:53 AM
5

Your goal is to be happier. If they aren't making you a happier, better person, then keep doing what you were doing before, provided you were leading your life in a positive direction.
/r/MGTOW217/05/20 04:58 PM
1

Absolutely. If one just has interesting stories to tell and people want to listen, that's normal. But a truly confident person doesn't NEED to be the center of attention, thus popularity is not the sign of a high quality person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:14 AM
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Most probably can't handle even a little rejection, so not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:01 AM
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The more popular you are with others, the more proof there is that you're high quality, because other people like you. If no one knows you and no one likes you, you're much more likely to be low quality. While the latter may be true, your first part is way off. Oftentimes, the more popular a person is, it's because they are addicted to the rush of serotonin which is released when one feels socially important, and they're seeking validation from others. If someone manages to steal away some of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:54 AM
1

Congrats, man, and good luck.
/r/MGTOW216/05/20 04:48 AM
2

No woman : No cry, lol
/r/MGTOW215/05/20 06:31 PM
3

Age has helped me, as well as realizing that sex often comes with drama. One thing I did was remove all "sexiness" from my social media. I had several model pages on my Instagram, FB, etc. I now only look at travel stuff, motorcycle media, etc. I minimize being exposed to the beauty of women, pretty much, and when I see a hot one walking by, I remind myself she'll probably bring drama.
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 01:11 AM
1

Excellent advice. Thanks for posting!
/r/MGTOW212/05/20 01:04 AM
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This guy! I've lived along for 10+ years and love it. I get my son on the weekends, so that's good. I love having him here.
/r/MGTOW209/05/20 01:48 AM
1

Spanish and English. I'd like to learn more in the future, but we'll see how it goes with German. Hopefully I'll be fluent in a year.
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 04:07 AM
2

Just started an online German class. It's going to be my 3rd language.
/r/MGTOW229/04/20 04:33 AM
2

The only thing that's degenerating is a man made culture, not humanity. I personally don't care because it's evolution, as far as I'm concerned. I'll change with it and survive. Hell, MGTOW contributes to such degeneration when you think of it because it goes against marriage, which is a huge cultural landmark of every society in the world.
/r/MGTOW227/04/20 05:14 PM
1

Good point. There are women many guys would never take home to mama ("skank"), and then there's "wife material". I think it's that many of Color Pill forums focus more on men's dating issues and frames of mind, so they've come up with classifications for men.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 09:33 AM
1

That's what I'm hoping for, so I exercise and maintain a fairly interesting life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:25 AM
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The idea that I would now hold that against my current partner is completely ridiculous to me. I've been exploring this a lot lately. It's a fear of losing a partner to an ex or feeling insecure about their performance in any facet of a relationship (providing, maintaining SO's interest, sexually, etc). Some people, especially many men, tend to be in competition to be their partner's best pick, and when they fear they aren't it shows up in the form of anger and projection onto their partner. Ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:55 AM
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My biggest fear is OLDER women from Gen X not thinking I'm cute and fun and young anymore!! Yeah, same here. I had a good run in my youth (43 now). I got a lot of dates, when I wasn't wasting my time in relationships. I still do get a good bit of action, in person and on Tinder, but it's not like the women are walking up to me and bluntly asking for my phone number anymore. I am not looking forward to getting older and getting less attention from women, but I'm going to enjoy today and make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:45 AM
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This post is more along the lines of MGTOW1.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 03:35 AM
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My friend calls his wife that and she does it in return. I think it's when they just want to bond non romantically. I've called my GFs "dude" or "bruh" before, and it's when I just want to have them as my friend, not just my lover/emotional partner. I want them to be my fun friend too. I want us to joke around like friends. If I have to follow a certain behavioral protocol at all times, it'll feel more like a role I have to follow, not a fun relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/20 01:04 PM
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It should go without saying that my key focus is my kids. However, my personal key focus is financial independence so I can focus on my passion of traveling around the world on a motorcycle. I've accomplished my foundation for financial independence, which was get a degree and a career that is stable and pays well. I've now started buying rental properties. I own 4 right now. I currently make a really good profit, after overhead, but I still have a loan, so I want to pay that off. I also have a …
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 10:26 AM
1

Excellent goal. One of the greatest things I learned that has helped me bond with my sons is auto mechanics through YouTube. We work on our car together or on other people's cars for money while talking about life, philosophy, finance and economics, etc. I quiz him a little bit on these topics. I also pay him for his help and started making him keep a ledger for the money he earns and spends. It also gives kids a sense of accomplishment and leads them towards financial independence because they …
/r/MGTOW225/04/20 10:12 AM
3

Yup. The logger beard is the pop culture trend I find most annoying. People would tell me to grow one out. I'd tell them I don't like following trends and fads.
/r/MGTOW224/04/20 04:59 PM
3

I'm sorry to hear that, man. Ir sucks being put on the back burner so someone else can just go have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:27 PM
4

Same here. I learned from experience that 1 man can take 3 or 4 women off the sexual market because those women prefer sleeping with 1 guy. I think it's bleak and depressing even though I'm currently hooking up with 2 women. I was with 3 until one said she had deep feelings for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:25 PM
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I can't offer any consolation, but I can say I know how you feel. I went through a divorce and fought to see my son during my last semester of studying to be an engineer. Not to mention, the decline of my marriage before then, and dealing with the divorce after graduation. It was super hard, but I knew that the rest of my life rested on how I handled that last semester. After that, life would be better, and believe me, after settling into my career, which took a few years, life has been great. J…
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 04:34 PM
1

You just described the dating scene for men and women. The world of dating isn't worth it to anyone, if you ask me. Still, people are hopeful they'll find The One.
/r/MGTOW223/04/20 03:07 AM
5

I'd probably choose a cheap, hilly state to be based and just travel around the world on my motorcycle. Maybe I'd decide after staying in a few different places.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 01:53 PM
1

She's a beauty.
/r/MGTOW219/04/20 10:07 AM
4

This is fantastic. I do this in my head but a diary sounds even better. It will keep track of my time and productivity for future reference.
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 11:06 AM
1

Well stated.
/r/MGTOW218/04/20 12:51 AM
1

I have no problem finding relationships without the expectation of marriage nor cohabitation. Women in my age range (40s+) have either experienced divorce and don't see marriage through rose colored glasses, or they don't find it all that romantic anymore, or they have enough going for themselves that they don't want to risk their finances either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:13 PM
2

And I won't by a woman, lol. My kids will inherit my life's work, not a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:04 PM
2

Considering that only about a 15% of the population makes 100k, you'd still have a lot to lose making half your standard. 200k is an even bigger risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:16 PM
2

Fiancé didn’t want me to ruin her day when I mentioned the cost of The wedding. After thinking about it I called off the engagement. Damn, not too many guys out there like you, homie. Most guys cave to their fiances.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 08:04 PM
1

A study showed that, generally, women get bored of a relationship by year 3, while men show boredom by year 2 or 3, they actually want to stay in the relationship. I guess many women stay longer because of the Sunk Cost Fallacy, which causes them to just emotionally drop out of the relationship unexpectedly. Then they blame their SO's because they can't figure out why they're unhappy. This is all anecdotal and hypothetical, except for the results of the study I mentioned. Google will show severa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:39 PM
2

I'm not against sex one bit. I'm clipped, though, so I don't have to worry about a woman trapping me with a kid. I don't cohabit and I certainly won't marry. I'm not against relationships, but I don't like the restrictions, so I stay single. I usually keep a couple of FsWB. I'll warn anyone, however, even FWB comes with strings 99% of the time.
/r/MGTOW214/04/20 07:10 PM
1

I don't think anyone is allowed to stay in MGTOW1, lol
/r/MGTOW212/04/20 08:28 AM
11

I told my sons the same rules I follow: Contraception is the responsibility of the individual who doesn't want kids. Always get a DNA test.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:25 PM
4

I think any reasonable woman with experience with men, whether it be a family member, friend, or partner, will know that many guys just like fixing and working on shit. Otherwise, Father's Day ads wouldn't be centered around power tools and shit. Any woman who questions that with annoyance in her voice needs to be kicked to the curb.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 08:32 PM
1

Good luck, man.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 03:24 AM
1

Good luck with the new job!
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 05:09 PM
7

Kid, there's risk in every marriage. You can minimize those risks by learning about yourself, learning about Attachment Theory and seeing where you and potential partners stand, being a good person with good morals and finding someone with similar morals and not listening to what they say about themselves but watching how they behave. Waiting until 30 to marry cuts the risk of divorce significantly, so does getting a college education and finding an educated partner as well. The marriage success…
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 04:46 PM
1

I recommend hitting some weights and learning about proper weight lifting. Exercise to feel good, not to look good. Looking good will come in time as a byproduct. Exercise has been shown to help boys' confidence better than making good grades, so I'm sure that has an affect on grown men, too. Still, that doesn't mean ignore the mind. You have to be well balanced, so work on other growth: career, finance, culture, art, science and psychology, philosophy. You're young, so you have the luxury of ti…
/r/MGTOW210/04/20 06:41 AM
1

I have more important shit to look at. Grow your minds, gentlemen. Ignore the ignorance, let go of resentment.
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 12:13 AM
5

Stop wasting your time with condescending idiots.
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 08:00 PM
6

It's likely that higher earning women may be more prone to divorce due to their drive for autonomy. Add to that, a lot of people get married simply to carry on a tradition. Once it's gotten stale, they may realize they don't really like nor need marriage, so they get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:31 PM
4

It's been shown that the demand for more expensive vacations, bigger houses, and fancier cars has added to this. Even in today's economy, if families settled for smaller houses and used, economical cars, their odds of living off a single, decent income would be significantly greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:28 PM
8

Dismissive Avoidant people often tend to act like an accordion when it comes to emotional closeness. They will be very affectionate (maybe overly affectionate) one day and then push away the next, then apologize and go back to being affectionate. Let me see if I can find a thorough list made by u/sodabrothel .... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/amg7z1/what_are_signs_that_youre_dating_an_emotionally/efm5zoe?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/20 07:10 PM
2

I have a son that's still under my roof, but I love having him around. Marriage/live in partner was hell, though. I'm glad I don't have to deal with any of those issues.
/r/MGTOW206/04/20 09:30 PM
1

Men also need to hold their own instincts in check like the urge to fuck every available attractive female, Yup, that's my problem. It's one of the reasons I went MGTOW: no marriage, no cohabitation. Plus, getting divorce raped.
/r/MGTOW205/04/20 09:28 PM
41

Yes, she does. If a woman doesn't find me attractive, I fear when the relationship reaches the boring phase, she'll have a fling with a guy she does find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:46 AM
-1

Why are you in a relationship?? This is the MGTOW sub isn't it?? No marriage, no cohabitation are the original MGTOW "rules", which means he can be in a relationship as long as he doesn't give her legal rights to his life's work.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 08:00 PM
3

Agreed. If a woman sleeps with me on even the first date, I see it as the sexual chemistry was right. I'd think of myself as a "whore" if I didn't hold myself to the same standards.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 07:58 PM
2

Yikes. I'd say this "relationship" has run its course. I have tattoos and have lost track of my body count, so I won't judge there; although, why their body count is high is something that has to be considered. I also won't hold it against anyone searching for their soul mate, even though I am not. Some people can pull off being in a loving relationship, but it's extremely rare. My relationship hang ups are mine, so I won't project them onto anyone and judge them as pathetic for it either. I wou…
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 07:52 PM
1

I can maintain the house with about an hour of cleaning every couple of days. I put everything back in its place as I use it. When i lived with a chick, the house was always a mess. Now with kids, it can be helpful to have a partner if you're both effective and on the same page with the kids. As far as just playing house with a live in GF? No way, I'm better off living alone.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 05:44 PM
0

Same here. I can maintain the house with about an hour of cleaning every couple of days. I put everything back in its place as I use it. When i lived with a chick, the house was always a mess. Now with kids, it can be helpful to have a partner if you're both effective and on the same page with the kids. As far as just playing house with a live in GF? No way, I'm better off living alone.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 05:44 PM
0

Same here. I can maintain the house with about an hour of cleaning every couple of days. I put everything back in its place as I use it. When i lived with a chick, the house was always a mess. Now with kids, it can be helpful to have a partner if you're both effective and on the same page with the kids. As far as just playing house with a live in GF? No way, I'm better off living alone.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 05:43 PM
2

Same here. I can maintain the house with about an hour of cleaning every couple of days. I put everything back in its place as I use it. When i lived with a chick, the house was always a mess. Now with kids, it can be helpful to have a partner if you're both effective and on the same page with the kids. As far as just playing house with a live in GF? No way, I'm better off living alone.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 05:43 PM
7

Same here. I can maintain the house with about an hour of cleaning every couple of days. I put everything back in its place as I use it. When i lived with a chick, the house was always a mess. Now with kids, it can be helpful to have a partner if you're both effective and on the same page with the kids. As far as just playing house with a live in GF? No way, I'm better off living alone.
/r/MGTOW201/04/20 05:42 PM
2

You'll adapt. I'm 43. Since my 20s, very year has been greater than the last, especially with dating. I find older women attractive, plus they're less likely to play mind games as women in their 20s and early 30s, although you will find a few who do, especially on dating apps.
/r/askTRP01/04/20 10:17 AM
2

Don't share your finances nor your credit. Big down payment on a house and a 15yr mortgage. Learn to cook your food and fix your car. I used YouTube for these. I only buy cars that have a big online support group, like forums and YouTube. Invest ASAP. Your time in the market is more valuable than trying to time the market. In fact, trying to time the market often results in losing money.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:52 PM
1

I recommend the total money make over by Dave Ramsey. It's not about MGTOW, But since you're trying to build wealth I think it's a pretty good book. You don't have to follow the system hardcore but it is a pretty good guide. I know an old former trucker who made his fortune by taking all of his money and putting it into the stock market and he is now a millionaire. Extreme Ownership. The Power of Now. Again, these aren't MGTOW, but overall good books for growth.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:42 PM
1

100 days of anything. An interesting challenge. This is given me something to think about. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:37 PM
1

Amen. I'm grateful for my health, my great job, and my kids' ability to continue their educations at home.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:35 PM
1

Same, it's helped me in the same way, except I ended up matching up better with a male therapist, just by coincidence, not because I have anything against women therapists. I grew up with a single mom telling me that women were victims of men. That made me hate myself and I took the blame for the bad behavior of girls and women I was interested in. I also grew up with a savior complex. I too no longer accept that blame, and it's also why I'm MGTOW now.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:30 PM
2

Thanks for your service, Devil Dog. Oorah.
/r/MGTOW231/03/20 09:21 PM
3

Yes. It took me years to figure out that I don't have to talk to her about and avoid or ignore frivolous conversations. After I'd drop my son off, she'd always call to ask something about my son that she could just ask him. I started ignoring those calls, telling her to ask him. Eventually our conversations became shorter and shorter, until my son neared high school graduation. The drawback is I also had less information about his school, so I had to put more effort into getting that information…
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 10:42 AM
18

The first half is a good realization. I think that's what most people do and why most marriages end: people are looking for self fulfillment in their relationships. When they don't get it or when it's run its course, they move on. I don't give a shit about the 2nd half, lol. That song in the background is called Una Mattina by Ludovico Einaudi if anyone is interested.
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 10:01 AM
1

What would you have done with her ashes?
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 09:22 AM
6

This has been in the back of my mind for some time. I've just been avoiding confronting myself about it. I dated a ton and had so much sex between relationships. I don't think I made any new friends in a 5 year dating spree during my late 20s, early 30s because I was so focused on women. Then a 10 year relationship which ran its course, then again spending all of 2019 dating and fucking. It became routine during that time and, after discovering Mgtow2, I was finally starting to focus on more pro…
/r/MGTOW230/03/20 09:19 AM
33

The bitterness isn't the real emotion you have to confront, it's the underlying emotion that's causing it. Most often anger is how we express something else like insecurity, feeling rejected, sadness, fear, etc . If you treat one of your underlying emotions, say your insecurity and rejection which your ego assumes will happen, then you will be one step closer to avoiding feeling bitter/angry and more importantly, one step closer to feeling confident. I have a couple of books that have been recom…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/20 04:03 PM
2

I can see your point, OP. I (M43) have made such assumptions in the past. Now I don't and judge based on my interaction with her, and I make my judgment on how she treats me, almost regardless of N count. The origin of her N count is really what matters. Was she overcoming abuse during her promiscuous past? Does she have a history of cheating? Is she only sexual with low quality, but attractive douchbags but vanilla and prudish with her relationship partners? Etc. What I won't settle for is vani…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:49 PM
1

Fuck no
/r/askTRP28/03/20 11:46 PM
5

I'm not feeling it. I like being able to ask my coworkers questions at their desks. Plus, I have 3 screens at my work desk, which is a big help when I'm doing data research.
/r/MGTOW227/03/20 05:08 AM
3

Something that has helped me is finding a good reading spot like the kitchen table or my back yard and putting the phone in another room. Reading out loud also keeps me more focused. I've heard that hearing something helps you retain it more, so maybe that's why.
/r/MGTOW227/03/20 01:02 AM
4

You're off to a great start. Oftentimes, working on our physical/health shortcomings leads to greater things. In fact, a study showed that exercise had a more positive affect on young boys' confidence than receiving high marks in school. I'm sure that has an affect on adults as well. Don't stop there, though. Being an overall high value person TO YOURSELF means also exercising your brain. Read books that offer positive information on personality, psychology, confidence, and even finance so you c…
/r/MGTOW226/03/20 04:18 PM
2

Thank you, that is very helpful. I've kind of been applying this to some past incidents with people, but sometimes I can still feel the chip on my shoulder which makes me think that maybe I'm not truly forgiving them. I think I'm on the right track after reading your comment, though.
/r/RedPillWomen26/03/20 04:03 PM
11

Cognizant behavioral therapy. There's also something called "dropping the mind" where you refocus on what's going on now in order to leave the past behind and not fuel the fire with bad thoughts. I'm still working on these two. Sometimes it helps. The forgiveness thing doesn't work for me. I don't really know what true forgiveness is, nor do I know how that relates to truly leaving the past behind and not letting it haunt me.
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/20 09:44 PM
1

To my understanding, the more red pill a guy is and the more attractive in different ways (looks, education, money, drive, etc) he is to women, the more Chad-like he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 12:51 AM
6

Sorry to hear, man. She'd want you to be happy again, though. Cherish her memory by focusing on being a good person in her honor. Take good care of your body, heart, and mind.
/r/MGTOW224/03/20 04:24 PM
2

To expect anyone to save themselves for you is arrogant, egocentric, and unrealistic. Women aren't some holy creatures that are supposed to cater their lives to a potential partner. They're human, which means they don't belong on a pedestal of righteousness. They have the same faults and drives that we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:09 PM
3

Do guys really want a virgin? I don't get that. I wouldn't want a woman who's n count is in the triple digits and has a history of cheating, but I would want a woman with experience, knows what she wants, and is adventurous with her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:27 PM
1

Working from home, but I have some free time to do stuff around the house. Right now I'm trying to get rid of some damn carpenter bees. I'm fostering a dog, but she may get adopted soon. The shelter is still functioning, but they are picking up and dropping off the fosters when needed. I'm reading more. Just started The Power of Now. I have about 50+ other books on my list. Not sure I'll get that done.
/r/MGTOW223/03/20 07:23 PM
2

Post pics when you can.
/r/MGTOW223/03/20 07:20 PM
5

I guess laying around, smoking, drinking, gaming all day, etc. It's important to exercise the body and the mind. Workout and read good material.
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 09:17 PM
4

He's right. It's how you act, not what you say. I think you're doing fine. I wouldn't see them more than once a week though.
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 03:43 AM
1

No marriage, no cohabitation are the 2 basic rules. I've even had a GF and been MGTOW. I just kept true to the 2 basic rules. Some men have tweaked mgtow ideologies into their marriages somehow. Whatever works for them.
/r/MGTOW222/03/20 03:41 AM
5

Ah ok, gotcha. I'm ready to visit Britain now! 'Rona won't let me leave the house, though.
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 01:30 PM
2

To me, MGTOW is just about protecting yourself from the legal intricacies of romantic relationships; no marriage, no cohabitation. Then, it's about bettering oneself through reading, exercise, learning an art and a trade, and taking care of one's finances. These principles can apply to straight or gay men. Hell, even women can apply these principles to their lives, and some do.
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 01:15 PM
4

Yikes to number 3. I've not had that happen to me, but I've heard of it. They may be 1 in the eyes of the church and government, but not when it comes to MY money. There are 3 plates on the table, I'm only paying for mine. People have given up on number 5 with me. They know I'm non committal. Number 8, what does it mean to be off like a shot?
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 12:56 PM
23

Some guys might enjoy the chase, but there are better ways to spend your time than jumping over hoops to make a girl interested in you. Amen to that!
/r/askTRP21/03/20 12:42 PM
1

It's not fun to me, but it is something to do. Plus, if you're only looking for fun things to do, then you aren't training your mind to be disciplined. Here's how I deal with maintaining my discipline for working out: Shorter workout. 30 to 40 minutes. Less weight, more reps. Forget about seeing how much you can lift and instead focus on muscle fatigue. Less weight also makes for a quicker recovery time between sets, which makes for faster workouts. Don't have a rigid workout schedule. If you ra…
/r/MGTOW221/03/20 11:54 AM
9

Well, even independent people like the feeling of companionship. My question to some of them is, if you're so independent, why do you expect to be courted?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/20 11:24 AM
2

I don't blame many of those women. As I've gotten older, I've learned those same things about myself. When I was young and inexperienced and had low confidence, I put all women on a pedestal and considered myself lucky to get any woman's interest. Not anymore, man. Over the years (M42) I've gotten my sh*t together and won't date a deadbeat woman who can't pay her bills, isn't attractive to me, has a negative outlook, doesn't take care of her responsibilities like her home, job, and kids, and isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 02:39 PM
9

You'll be okay, man. Same shit happened to me at 27. Ex wife ran off with another guy and seeing my son took a lot of work. I graduated college a semester later, and with a lot of work, my life is great. It took years. I've saved, invested, and focused on my kids (had another with another chick; she came to me 3 mos after we broke up and told me she was pregnant). I did find a cool chick eventually and we were in a 10 year relationship (no marriage, no cohabitation), but that eventually ran it's…
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 02:13 PM
2

Statistics show that men do want to stay married and women are the ones who get bored and move on, so maybe men stay in love or are the ones who prefer the routine of marriage despite their "less attractive" wife. I personally find quite a few 40+ year old women attractive, although more rare, so the "wall" doesn't apply in my eyes. Unfortunately, I'm the kind of man who gets bored of being with the same person, no matter how good she looks, so being attracted to an older woman gets wasted on me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:31 AM
4

Saved
/r/MGTOW218/03/20 08:13 AM
3

Oof, BURN!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/20 12:30 AM
11

My friend who recently got married said marriage is only good for getting laid whenever you want. Your friend is super wrong. Go over to r/deadbedrooms and look at how a lot of, probably most, marriages turn out.
/r/MGTOW214/03/20 09:35 AM
1

It goes through cycles. Every decade or so there's an oil recession. I've worked in the industry for almost 20 years.
/r/MGTOW212/03/20 09:24 PM
3

You're off to a good start, man. Hold long and keep up the good work. Remember, it's not about timing the market, but time in the market.
/r/MGTOW212/03/20 02:45 AM
2

Warren Buffet buys dollar store stocks during recessions. I'd look at their charts during 2008 and 2009, though.
/r/MGTOW212/03/20 02:43 AM
8

I work in the industry. It's far from the past.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 07:28 PM
3

Fine with me. I don't wait for a low because you never know where that is. Once prices start dropping, I buy as many shares as I can afford every month until it comes back up. Then I hold long.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 05:54 PM
10

Puts are way too volatile. I don't do Options anymore. Lost way too much money. Now I do stocks of strong companies I can hold for years. Big oil companies is where I'd like to put my money right now. The world needs what they provide so they can't just disappear.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 05:50 PM
3

If I could, I'd go hard with XOM (can't because my job makes it a conflict of interest), then some AAPL, and maybe a solid bank like JPM or BOA. These are all blue chip companies with solid financial backgrounds.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 05:47 PM
4

I can see the humor in "trying to find my next ex husband", but waitress with 4 young kids? She means it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/20 03:33 PM
2

Wow. It's like you've sacrificed yourself to be an example for the rest of us. I hope you find some peace in your life, man. I, for one, am following your advice. Make your own happiness everyday and do the best you can with what you got.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 03:11 PM
2

Isn't life a whole lot easier when you stop adoring women lol. Absolutely. Everything in moderation! My problem before MGTOW was that I put everything into impressing women and trying to build a harem. My confidence was reliant on their validation. Not so much anymore. I can still occasionally feel my instinct to want them creeping in every now and then, but I consciously know better than that now.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 03:04 PM
4

I just remember that all they are is pretty/sexy/hot, which isn't completely appealing on it's own. They also need a personality that appeals to me, and not knowing that lessens my attraction towards them.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 01:02 AM
2

Pretty chill day. Up at 7, fed the dog, showered, and took my time getting to work. Knocked out a presentation on a project I was working on. FWB hit me up for a lunch time session. Back to work, then the gym for 45 minutes. Saw some cute women working out but told myself to stop being distracted by counterproductive urges and focus on the mission: fitness. Got home, ate a healthy meal, then tended to my side business. Now I'm going to finish reading The Total Money Makeover and get some rest. T…
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 12:53 AM
3

Yes, several women have told me that. They're usually experienced with the tribulations of divorce or they own their own business and/or make great money. Also, they're older like in their 40s+.
/r/MGTOW211/03/20 12:36 AM
12

I mean, I don't drag my 96-year-old grandmother onto the golf course and tell her to put her back muscles into that swing of hers. I do.
/r/MGTOW210/03/20 08:32 PM
7

I'll share my (M42) current dating story where I pulled away from a woman and then came back after a month of little to no contact. Hopefully it can give some insight. First, let me say I'm noncommittal because it's only been a little over a year since I got out of a 10 year LTR, and I need more time alone. Also, I'm MGTOW, but I still date and deal with emotional connections with the women I date; as a side note, I find it hard fighting off the feelings of wanting a meaningful relationship when…
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/20 03:10 PM
1

Google. Fuck TRP when it comes to actual psychology. It's biased against women. Attachment theory applies to both genders.
/r/askTRP09/03/20 01:38 AM
21

She's Anxious Preoccupied and is probably having an anxiety attack. She's emotionally invested and needs reassurance. Learn about Attachment Theory. It's possible you're Dismissive Avoidant.
/r/askTRP08/03/20 08:55 PM
2

I don't know about all men, but it does matter to me. I've been with women who didn't have good, stable careers and I was constantly having to bail them out of problems like bills, debts, housing issues, etc. They were a constant worry and held me back financially. I'm no longer Captain Save A H*e. I know plenty of women who hold the same standard for their partners because love don't pay the bills. Quite frankly, I don't blame those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:00 PM
0

I'll take it a step further in saying that I'm not marrying anyone either, and I won't even date nor even just sleep with someone that low on the totem pole. I have before, and from my experience, there's often a correlation between a person's mental well being and their position in life and the job market.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:04 PM
1

Oof! Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:00 PM
2

I'm (40s, male) an engineer and own real estate; I worked my way up from the very bottom. I wouldn't ever commit to a woman who has a job that doesn't require thinking and pays really low, like cleaning hotel rooms or just a waitress, unless she's completing her education or something and has a plan after graduation. I don't want a dependent for a partner. If she makes less than me, which is usually the case, I can work with that, as long as she can afford her own house, car, bills, and retireme…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 11:54 AM
4

It's good to be reminded to relax. You just made my morning, brother.
/r/MGTOW207/03/20 06:40 PM
2

It's just ok. We aren't emotionally close at all, but she did her best to raise me. She was pretty cold when I was a kid. Even though she didn't beat or berate me, I always felt like a burden to her because we were poor. I spent some of my youth being scared she was going to give me away so she wouldn't have to deal with me anymore, and I was a pretty good kid in my single digit years. I'm a much better and loving parent than her, and she admits it. My kids grew up being told how much they mean …
/r/MGTOW205/03/20 06:38 PM
1

I chose these: Learn about attachment theory, author by the name of Bowlby. Or the book Attached for a simple read. It's helped me look for signs of incompatible partners. Also, I learned I'm a solid Dismissive Avoidant, which I've been working on fixing. It's hard, though, because its deeply embedded in my mind. If you're a DA as well, I recommend The Emotionally Absent Mother, too. It was very informative. He's Scared, She's Scared was recommended to me, as well as The Power of Now. Haven't re…
/r/Divorce_Men03/03/20 01:22 AM
1

Well, it's good that she's out of your life. Now you can focus on your happiness and personal growth. Good luck, man. Didn't mean to give you a hard time, btw.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 11:54 PM
1

Your age doesn't represent character nor maturity. You did a shitty thing, period. If you hadn't, your conscious would be clear. I didnt find anything in your history that stated if she'd done something shitty to begin with, and I assume she probably did to warrant being stranded. But that doesn't justify your choices to act the same way. Either way, it's your life.
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 03:26 PM
2

All of this. Therapy isn't enough. You have to read about psychology and the mind, plus challenge yourself to learn and experience new things so you can start learning more about who you are.
/r/Divorce_Men02/03/20 01:27 PM
0

You left her stranded and ghosted her? Regardless of her character, why did you not just tell her that you're not interested in her anymore, even if just via text? Show some decency and strength. Your actions show you as inconsiderate and having shitty character, even if she was the same way. Then you blow off your guilt by numbing yourself with weed, which is a sign of weakness and an acknowledgement of your low moral fiber. You got a lot of growing up to do, kid. You're certainly not a top cat…
/r/MGTOW202/03/20 01:13 PM
2

how do you feel about marriage? It's too great a risk. I'm divorced, got cleaned out, cheated on, and had to beg and then fight to see my son. I learned my lesson: MGTOW's don't marry, don't cohabitate. A lot of women don't care to get married nowadays, especially older, divorced women, so it's not too hard finding someone to date. If we were back in 1950s society would you be more inclined towards marriage? Not really. Those times may have been good for men and marriage, but I view them as oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 12:31 PM
6

It's happened to me, and this is the route I took. People knew my character was better than that, and sometimes they'd question me directly if something was true. I told them no, that I didn't know why she would say such things (other than projecting), and that I was focusing on just getting the divorce over with and moving on with my life. Over time, it all went away.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/20 12:10 PM
1

Don't get mad. Just breathe, bro, lol.
/r/MGTOW201/03/20 04:50 AM
1

That doesn't sound dumb at all. It sounds very introspective and logical.
/r/MGTOW201/03/20 02:57 AM
1

Wow! Weird!
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 10:00 PM
2

Nice and simple. Love.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:56 PM
1

go to dinner on Tuesday and she sleeps over on Friday. That’s it, no long phone calls, nothing else I like this.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:48 PM
1

After 40+ years of living on this Earth, a divorce, fighting for child custody, and standing by my choice to live alone for the last 17 years, I'd say I have enough experience and understanding. The issue is instinct, which can override our self control, e.g. sex drive, emotions, etc.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:47 PM
1

it should not be a panic inducing threat After a lot of research, it's a sign of Dismissive Avoidance. After researching Attachment Theory, I fall into that category 100%. So, I'm going to get to know myself a lot more now: more research on psychology, attachment behavior, and treatment, so I'm a healthier and happier person. I still won't cohabit, though. I've gotten used to living alone over the last 17 years. Thanks for your input.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:43 PM
1

I don't see this as a bad plan. If you have a good enough savings account and a good enough network of friends, you can move out the same day. I need my alone time, however, so I don't see myself moving in with anyone.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:25 PM
2

This comment is on fire, man. Coincidentally, I had the "Where is this headed" conversation with her yesterday. I brought it up, and I told her, "If commitment is what you want, this isn't going to be a happy ending." We both agreed that we'll just enjoy it until it just fades for one or both of us. I've already been divorced and had several live in relationships. It's just not for me. I need my solitude. So, I'm 100% sure I won't be living with anyone until I'm in my dying years (assuming I fin…
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:22 PM
3

Thanks for the fantastic response. I agree fully that communication and respect for each other's wishes is the way to go, which is how it's been between us. Fortunately, she understands my reasons for GMOW and seems to accept them so far. It's just tough fighting my own instincts.
/r/MGTOW226/02/20 09:13 PM
12

It probably helps that I barely avoided a false claim from a pissed of woman that I no longer wanted to see. Yikes! Sorry you had to go through that, man.
/r/MGTOW225/02/20 02:20 PM
4

I’d take a guy that didn’t do that me as having low interest. You'd be wrong. The way I see it, paying to entertain strangers takes money away from a future partner with whom I share a genuine interest. On the first few dates, I'm getting to know a stranger. It's going to take a few outings and getting to know each other for me to decide if I like her enough to spend more time with her. I also have to see if she's genuinely interested in ME or just trying to be entertained/courted out of entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:10 PM
1

I don't know what the Caps is. I live in a state where there is no hockey, lol.
/r/MGTOW224/02/20 02:39 AM
12

Learn about Attachment Theory. Anxious Preoccupied and some Dismissive Avoidants find stable boring.
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/20 02:21 AM
1

Also, don't forget: Fuck the Flyers
/r/MGTOW224/02/20 02:19 AM
2

Agreed. Some people just don't realize there are other options
/r/MGTOW221/02/20 12:15 PM
6

responsibility - authority = slavery. Nice. Gonna remember that equation.
/r/MGTOW221/02/20 12:10 PM
3

Definitely. Most people marry too young or immature due to tradition, sense of obligation, and convenience. I don't think the happy 5-12% fall into those categories, though. They probably were smart enough to wait to be mature and know how to find a suitable partner. That's why they're so rare.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 04:23 AM
13

I've read and heard statistics of marriages being truly happy (both parties being happy) to be between 5-12%. Those aren't high odds. Of course, it depends on the couple. Some people and couples are more prone to be happy in general.
/r/MGTOW220/02/20 03:56 AM
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Sounds good, man. You have a great goal. Good luck! My problem has always been long term consistency in weight lifting. I started making my workouts shorter on the days I really don't feel like lifting or was tight on time. I cut back on the weight to shorten recovery time and focus on form and muscle exhaustion. Sometimes my workouts are only 30 minutes, depending on the muscle group. This allows me to feel the burn, get the blood flowing, exercise the muscle enough to keep it firm, and keep my…
/r/MGTOW219/02/20 11:20 PM
1

Ok, I think I see what you're saying: Back then, the system oppressed women with laws and a system that prevented them from voting, getting degrees, becoming independent, etc. Now they have all those opportunities, so now, "feminism" is really just a gender tit for tat battle. That sound about right?
/r/MGTOW218/02/20 11:10 PM
0

Not really though. What do you mean by not really? I see both of your comments as saying the same thing. What you described is the original and real feminism: right to vote, right to equal pay, etc, based on one's merits.
/r/MGTOW218/02/20 07:22 PM
1

Work in the morning, fix someone's car (for pay), install a new dish washer, then spend time with my son... I think I'll wait until he's over to install the washer so he can help and learn how to do it. Later in the night, I'll probably drive Uber and make some bucks since my city is going to be partying.
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 01:24 PM
1

Your gym sounds awful!
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 01:21 PM
5

Thanks a million for posting this. Some of the quotes led to some good books I've added to my list.
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 01:01 PM
2

Do you not realize that troll has sucked you in?
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 12:33 PM
13

I once solely wrote, "Bring cash, because I'm not paying." Can you believe I still got matches with that shit? LOL! I asked a woman what she liked about my profile, and she said that I'm a bold asshole, lol.
/r/MGTOW214/02/20 12:30 PM
3

I remember having friends like this in college. They'd grow weary of all the working and studying and start wishing for their knight in shining armor top save them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/02/20 12:45 AM
5

I have side jobs driving for Uber, fixing people's cars (I charge less than a mechanic), and have investments in low income rental properties (homes are cheap, depending on the area) for monthly income. Combined, they all bring in around $3k/month. Plus, any extra money I can make doing yard cutting for fellow rental owners. The cool thing is, these jobs all offer flexible hours with the way I have them set up.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 03:40 PM
1

I dont know, new territory for me. Well, whatever the case, don't let it stress your life. Look at it as a journey of personal exploration. Many people won't accept whichever way you swing, but it's your life, bud. What matters is this: " I can say with confidence I finally feel happy and at peace..."
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 03:28 PM
3

Que Rebecca Black's Friday song.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 11:59 AM
2

Hope today has been better, man. Remember, most problems are really only inconveniences. With the exception of death or serious health issues, we can recover from just about anything.
/r/MGTOW211/02/20 07:04 PM
5

Take my upvote while you're at it, man!
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 09:18 PM
1

Wow, a quick move is definite perk. I'm trying to do it so I can move in one medium Uhaul trip.
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 11:19 PM
1

Where would you store your friends motorcycle hes hiding from his wife? My God, I never thought of that!
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 01:04 PM
7

I'm a single dad (not stay at home). It's only sometimes that busy. The kids don't have to be in a bunch of afterschool activities that consume all the parent's time. The parents don't have to volunteer for a bunch of school and neighborhood events. They choose to overburden themselves with those things. Otherwise single parenting would be impossible. It would definitely be stressful if the kid had a disability, however. I do like your plan if you make more money than your husband. Once the kid …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:57 PM
15

You can have a gf, just don't give her legal rights to what you've worked for by cohabitation, marriage, or having a kid.
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 12:29 PM
1

If I could only up vote this more than once...
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 07:31 AM
2

I can only speak for myself, but learn to love solitude. Read a bunch of books about wisdom and finance, maybe learn an instrument, travel, learn to work on your vehicle using forums and youtube, etc. Appreciate learning. It turns you into an interesting person of high value which boosts your confidence. Also, share some of that knowledge. Make friends that also learn about worldly things and have civil debates with them. Also, set goals that a relationship would otherwise interfere with, such a…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 07:30 AM
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She's probably young.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 02:04 AM
1

I don't. Of course, I don't keep bad girls around for too long, though. By good girls, I mean quiet, church going girls. Also, I don't like gifts from women, because I've had them hold gifts over my head. To add, I don't like it when a woman makes me the center of her world. That's actually bad for long term relationships, anyway. People end up losing their individuality which can turn to resentment over the long haul. Your friends probably liked assholes, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:56 AM
31

You each need to ask yourselves if you're getting married because its expected of you (just because you've been together a while, familial expectations, societal and religious expectations, fear of the unknown as a single adult). Marriage is a huge step into adulthood that you might not be (are probably not) ready for. It's way more work and responsibility than anyone will ever be able to express to you. Maybe yall should set a long term wedding date, like 2 years after you've each graduated col…
/r/RedPillWomen05/02/20 12:32 AM
2

Thanks for all the great information and insight. You've given me some things to consider. The biggest home I've ever owned has been 1500 sqft, which I now rent out. I often felt like I was just wasting money on empty space. Energy cost was low as hell because it has solar panels ($15/mo even after cooling it in the hot south), but I still spent almost all my time in my room or in the garage. I think more people will eventually catch on to smaller living, but it will be a special niche (minimali…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 12:20 AM
5

I've visited those. I don't keep any company like that. When I date a woman, it's because we have intellectual things in common. The women on those subs are either the female version of MGTOW1 or materialistic. I don't even hang with guys who are hateful or materialistic; I certainly won't date or sleep with a woman who's that way.
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 09:53 PM
8

Same here. Different strokes, though, man. Some people need companionship. I admit, I need it to an extent. I like the company of women and intimacy, but there's only so far I can emotionally invest myself. I love my freedom way too much to give it up just for companionship. And I'm certainly not going to give my freedom up to please society or anyone else.
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 08:45 PM
11

Man, I remember feeling this inner peace some months after my ex wife left. At first, I was asking her to come back, but then I realized I could now do whatever I wanted and not have to ask "permission" or do chores that someone assigned me. I also didn't have to delegate anything to anyone. I could do it all myself and be happy with the result. Since then (17 years ago), I've lived a great life alone. I've had a couple of relationships and a bunch of flings since then, but the rules have always…
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 07:23 PM
3

This is why every person needs "Fuck you money". He could have moved out and minimized some damage. Of course, he'd always have to have a tracker and camera on himself to prove his whereabouts. With most crazy partners, you can see it a mile away. The only problem is we aren't taught what signs to look for, e.g. possessiveness, victim mentality, hot and cold attitude, speaking down to other people in servant roles, etc.
/r/MGTOW204/02/20 07:17 PM
1

It's an average. Inflation of medical is more than twice that, as well as college, auto sales, etc. Here's a graph of the average, however. https://www.inflation.eu/inflation-rates/united-states/historic-inflation/cpi-inflation-united-states.aspx
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 10:00 PM
3

I looked through my YT vids and can't find the exact one. I did find a lot of other dividend investment videos, though. I'd like to find one that shows how much each stock costs and how much they pay every month or quarter. Either way, putting money in solid companies who pay dividends is better than just a savings account. Found the channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGy7SkBjcIAgTiwkXEtPnYg/videos
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 04:40 PM
2

At first porn helped me break off the feeling of needing someone to have sex with, but eventually it got in my way. Some days, I would spend hours jerking off while watching porn, distracting me from being productive. I decided to let go of the "passive porn" (girls on cars/bikes on instagram, following pages of sexy women on FB, sexy Youtube channels, etc) because it always lead to watching actual porn. Since then, I almost don't watch any porn and make much better use of my time. I get up and …
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 03:27 PM
3

Yeah, I have a formula that I've created that suits me well. It gives me leeway in case I go without a renter. It is a lot of work some months, though, but hey, if you want more money, you gotta work for it. Another form of passive income is stock dividends that you can cash out every quarter. There's a guy on Youtube that shares his stock information and exactly how much he gets from each one. Do some research, gents. Live below your means, invest, and get rich!
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 03:18 PM
3

This is happening more and more. I applauded the women who aren't falling for traditional conditioning.
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 12:18 PM
8

Inflation is 3%. The bare stock market is 7%. Mutual funds can do 12%. Investing in the market is beneficial. Also, rental property is great passive income.
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 12:15 PM
2

After getting divorced, cleaned out, and experiencing the fear of potentially losing my son and dealing with child custody, I said never again. I got a vasectomy and swore off giving anyone power over me. I still screw around a bit, but I keep those women at bay by not seeing them too frequently.
/r/MGTOW203/02/20 01:22 AM
2

And this is the last post I'll read this morning. Thanks for this positive message.
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 02:18 PM
3

Sounds like he's in for a hard life. She won't be happy either; things are never perfect enough for people who have to micromanage other people's lives.
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 02:14 PM
1

I'll go when I decide. I don't need you waving me off.
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 02:08 PM
7

Strive to be interesting, but to yourself most of all. Read about different topics. Challenge yourself to listen to different points of view, especially ones that go against your beliefs (without taking it personally and losing your composure). Learn trades that can make you some extra money, but don't incorporate that money into your normal budget. In times of layoffs or slow periods, that side work can help you get by. YouTube taught me how to fix my car over the years, and eventually I starte…
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 02:02 PM
2

Fuck this post. I'm not on here to listen to guys whine about changing traditional roles and complaints about women. Since MGTOW1 disappeared, I've been seeing more posts and comments about woman hating on here. I won't be on here long if all there is to read is negative, whiny bullshit.
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 01:26 PM
3

She ended up marrying the guy, and he left her after 3 kids. I saw them interacting one time while I was picking up my son and could tell it wasn't going to last. At the time, all I could think was, "Thank you for taking her off my hands!" Of course, when she and I were married, I wasn't ready for such a responsibility either, which made me bad husband material as well.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/20 12:56 PM
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She complained that I had friends and hobbies and she didn't. (My friends were actually my study partners. I was in college and working full time.) She started hanging out with friends a lot. (I never met any of them, even though I told her I'd be interested in hanging out with her group some time.) We stopped having sex. She started staying out late (while I stayed home and studied while taking care of the baby.) I complained about her staying our late and she just kept to herself. She started …
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/20 12:43 PM
2

I think it's that we, as a species, don't understand what we don't get: Men, generally, don't get physical validation, so we project our want for it onto women. Some women might think potential dating partners might make more money than them just because they're men, so they project provider expectations of onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:57 PM
0

Your intro comment is unnecessary and hateful, which is what has made this sub better from r/MGTOW; I hope MGTOW2 doesn't turn south like that one did. I've seen other subs delete posts with a reference to the rules on how to properly ask a question. Maybe that's what this sub needs. I've had my fair share of women who expected me to court them and pay and treat them like royalty, but I've met several independent women who insisted and had the decency to pay for themselves. To answer the questio…
/r/MGTOW201/02/20 11:41 AM
1

No. I lose respect for financially irresponsible women. I used to sleep with them anyway. Now they don't get the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:48 PM
3

Teach her about real equality, not the cherry picking a lot of people do. Teach her about organizing and keeping track of her finances, compound interest, investing, and most of all delayed gratification. Also not to worry about what the Joneses have. So many women (men too, but she is a girl afterall) blow all their checks on clothes, overpriced makeup, and useless crap for the house. One of the most powerful things a child can learn is delayed gratification. SELF RESPECT! Boys are going to tel…
/r/MGTOW228/01/20 03:56 AM
8

Nothing else needs to be said.
/r/MGTOW225/01/20 10:33 PM
14

Sounds like she wanted to cure her depression with a family. That likely wouldn't have worked, and her depression could have put her family in danger.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/20 02:32 PM
1

I don't see myself being better than anyone (well, lazy people are on the bottom, IMO). I do see my life as living a better life than some people, though, but that's based on my gauge. I couldn't live having someone trying to control me, but that's because I make decisions that impact my life positively, so I don't need a mommy. You will find a lot of people on their high horses in all aspects of life: You have to get married to be validated as a real man/woman; you live too sinfully; you don't …
/r/MGTOW225/01/20 02:29 PM
1

Uber driver. It's easy. You'll have to learn some mechanics so you don't spend too much on maintenance and repairs, but get a car that's reliable and has a lot of online support, e.g. Civic or Corolla, and you can make a decent living.
/r/askTRP25/01/20 12:13 PM
1

My mindset is based in modern times not traditionalism, so no, I wouldn't support anyone unless it's to raise kids until they are school age. I make great money in STEM plus real estate investments, but I strongly believe in autonomy just in case there's a break up or death. I want to feel safe that my hypothetical partner would be ok and self sustaining even if we split up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:48 PM
6

No monthly periods is worth it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:15 AM
3

Not sure your age, but 40's comes with a lot of mental clarity once libido slows down a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:43 PM
2

You'd actually be a catch if you were looking. I've been told that I "look good on paper", but that my emotional unavailability makes me a lost cause. I tell them that I have a purpose but a serious relationship is not it. I'm just a temp, and as I get older and wiser (as in knowing myself more), even the idea of that is fading from my wants.
/r/MGTOW221/01/20 10:04 PM
2

IME, that watch is an anchor. Now she's going to expect more from you, and if you don't give her what she wants, she's going to hold it over your head. When you've had enough and break it off, she's going to come back for the "gift" and have a prolonged argument about why you don't want to be with her. Give that shit back and break it off.
/r/askTRP20/01/20 11:05 AM
2

That's true, but IME for younger women. In my early 40s, I don't find women working hard for my attention, but then again, I'm not exposing myself to the singles scene much anymore. I stay to myself in my off time, working, and reading
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 10:46 AM
1

I took it as ignoring women altogether is weird. You don't have to have sex or date, but to ignore half the population during regular, daily interactions is anti social behavior.
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 10:29 AM
2

Ha ha ha! Those gun range owners really know how to increase business. I bet men flock to the range on that day.
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 10:16 AM
4

Right. That is such a turn off. I like the lustful and fun aspects of sex. Anytime I think of approaching a woman, I remember that if we work up to sex, she'll have an ulterior motive in her head. Then, I immediately lose all interest in asking her out. Remembering that really keeps me focused.
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 10:12 AM
2

I don't like withholding my intentions because some of them get so caught up, they can't say enough is enough and hang around to the point they lose all rationality. I don't want that shit on my hands, plus it's too hurtful.
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 10:04 AM
6

It's a PUA technique that some red pill guys have figured out. Most women, where I live, are fine with short term relationships provided they think it could lead to something serious. The red pill guys, later on, self sabotage the relationship after a few months and move onto the next. The women end up just chalking it up to it not having worked out and move on without making a big deal of it. Had the guys told them they're not looking for anything serious to begin with, the women would have tol…
/r/MGTOW219/01/20 06:02 PM
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A great answer. To add, I don't believe in using women, or people in general, especially just for validation. I'm out of the gender war and just living my life. That being said, I don't want to go monk, so I have a FWB where we have a mutual understanding. I live in a city, and there are enough women here who aren't looking for anything serious. You just have to sift through all the ones who think they're looking for a relationship (because most of them really aren't. But that's a topic for anot…
/r/MGTOW219/01/20 01:52 PM
1

I found many on Google when I typed in Divorce Rate. This article goes into the details of different categories, plus, shows that rates are decreasing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fatherly.com/love-money/what-is-divorce-rate-america/amp/ My chance of divorce, for example, would be lower than most, statistically. I did go to college, I do make a high wage, and I am selective over who I date (which is rare these days), plus, if I were marriage minded, I wouldn't rush into marriage. I'll check…
/r/MGTOW216/01/20 07:21 AM
2

Every single time I've done it there relationship has gone bad. Some, I felt like they treated me like a weakling or something. It was just their attitude towards me afterward that didn't sit right. Or they'd use the information against me in an argument or to taunt me. I'll never do that again. My vulnerabilities are 100% private. I don't mind sharing things like my mistrust or venting my anger, but I won't share emotions that involve feeling sadness, depression, or weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:27 AM
1

Checked. I see 40-50% ending in divorce. When both parties are college educated, that number drops to 30%. Also, when people wait until 30 yo to marry, the probability of divorce is cut in half. That doesn't count unhappiness, dissatisfaction, and secret affairs, however. Even if you minimize the probability of divorce, you still risk living a dissatisfied life.
/r/MGTOW216/01/20 01:07 AM
6

Your feelings on emotions and vulnerability sounds like you're Dismissive Avoidant. I'd learn about attachment theory before you continue growing your relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/20 03:30 AM
2

I've been exactly where you are. My 3 year old boy was crying because he wanted to spend time with his mom and me at the same time, and she started screaming at him for not making up his mind who he wanted to be with. He wanted both of us! Anyway, I told her he wasn't used to being separated and just needed time to adapt. She backed off, but 16 years later, it still hurts to think of my poor boy getting in trouble for being sad.
/r/askTRP13/01/20 02:54 AM
2

It's not a phobia if it really is meant to kill you.
/r/askTRP09/01/20 01:13 PM
1

Sounds like you've had some bad experiences, starting with the woman who's supposed to be the most important woman in your life: your mother. Sorry you've gone through that, man. My experience with Black women hasn't been bad. They have always treated me pretty well... except for the one who stalked me and tried to stab me, lol.
/r/askTRP09/01/20 05:44 AM
2

Thanks, brother.
/r/MGTOW208/01/20 12:18 PM
1

It sounds like your dwelling on not having gotten it right. That's a recipe for prolonged stagnation and ultimate failure, because it prevents you from standing back up and trying again. Failures are learning experiences: you moved too quickly, went too hard all at once, wagered too much, didn't look at all your options or chose bad a option due to impatience, or focused too much on what you could win versus what you could lose. Also, success for the majority of people is a slow process. Many su…
/r/MGTOW207/01/20 12:37 PM
2

It will actually make a great, funny story after you've approached a girl and you've started chatting. When the topic of dating comes up: "God, I remember I once tried approaching a girl, I was so nervous..."
/r/askTRP06/01/20 12:06 AM
20

...over breakfast.
/r/askTRP06/01/20 12:00 AM
2

Jesus, that's toxic and immature.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/20 11:42 PM
7

Boxer engine?
/r/MGTOW205/01/20 11:25 AM
1

Absolutely not. One can ask the same question in reverse: if she really loves him, it won't matter that they don't get married, as long as they're together. I was once married, and after therapy and A LOT of research, I now know I shouldn't marry anyone. Vulnerability causes a subconscious anxiety at the loss of my autonomy that manifests as annoyance towards my partner which causes mood swings. You see it all the time in public: when guys get annoyed at their SO's when they're just trying to he…
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/20 05:00 AM
0

Most people are on their knees suckin on Visa and Mastercard. Credit cards are the most marketed product in America. I don't have any CC debt, but I'm considering cutting mine up anyway. It turns out people purchase more and spend 15% more when making purchases with credit cards versus cash. Seeing finite cash makes us spend less than the virtual infinite buying power of our cards. Hell, it almost happened to me today at Best Buy. I went to get 1 thing I needed and almost walked out of there wit…
/r/MGTOW205/01/20 02:43 AM
1

I'm exactly like you're BF in my beliefs and was once in a relationship where she was pressuring me to get married. I countered that marriage was useless. Like him, I grew up surrounded by people getting divorced, bad relationships, and spouses complaining about each other. I can tell you from experience, he's not going to marry you, and if he does he will resent you. You two are just not compatible for marriage. You have different relationship goals. You have to move on.
/r/RedPillWomen05/01/20 02:11 AM
5

Reading about philosophy, psychology, finance, etc. I play the guitar and piano a little. I also have a side business managing some rental property I own as well as drive Uber whenever I feel like getting out of the house; beats wasting money at the bar 3 times a week. Play video games and watch movies with my son. Working on cars and motorcycles on occasion, and I volunteer at an animal shelter a few times a month. Also adventure riding. I hit Deals Gap every August. Where you at? This summer I…
/r/MGTOW204/01/20 02:31 AM
2

Believe it or not though, those 4 years have made me more open-minded towards the idea of marrying someone and raising kids one day, as I know no woman can use me as a mop and boss me around anymore I'm reaching the point of understanding that it's okay to be in a relationship as well, only I'm not open to the idea of marriage because it's (supposed to be) so final. Plus, I don't like the idea of the law in my private life. Like many of the other comments, I think staying single might be a perma…
/r/MGTOW203/01/20 04:30 PM
1

Nice. Bikes are awesome. I don't get fixer uppers and projects anymore, though. I have house shit to do now. Enjoy it, man!
/r/MGTOW202/01/20 06:24 PM
3

I had been having a hard time with some mild depression after realizing that having a partner isn't good for me (or that partner). Its been going down with time. Also, I have a good therapist who I've been seeing for other little things, but "relationships" does come up. I'm glad you brought this up because it crosses my head often. I know it's normal, but it's still cumbersome to deal with. Something that's been helping me is staying SUPER busy with things that have been helping me grow mentall…
/r/MGTOW201/01/20 03:32 PM
3

This is 100% the right answer, for me at least. Having a partner is instinctual for the vast percentage of the human race, whether you're a man or woman, gay or straight. Generally, we survive better with a partner or at least with friends, family, and even the strangers who operate the infrastructures that make up our society. Plus, sex is hard wired into every living thing.
/r/MGTOW201/01/20 03:18 PM
5

This was a great movie. He lived such an awesome life.
/r/MGTOW229/12/19 01:58 PM
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Amen, brother. I'm not as well off as you've stated but well off nonetheless, and I started from the very bottom (I'm at about the top 5% of American incomes). Like you, I won't spend a lot of money on complete strangers. I believe in taking care of people I care about and actual charities. What those types of women are looking for are suckers and/or show offs. I'm neither; I didn't get where I am by giving away what I've worked for just to show off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:39 PM
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I have my son and some family came into town. I'll hang with them and eat whatever they cook for dinner. Probably gonna drive Uber and make some money too. Christmas is so much better now that I don't feel pressure to buy gifts and deal with shopping, traffic, draining my bank account, etc. It really shouldn't be about materialism.
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 01:45 PM
4

This sounds fantastic. I got some frozen Tony's pizzas last night. That's what's for lunch!!
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 01:41 PM
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I think it's just coded in our biology to have a partner, and human culture has given it a sugar coating of human emotion (love/romance). Everyone just HOPES they end up happy thanks to the delusion of fairy tales and movies.
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 04:23 PM
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Don't. Low income women tend to be clingy. Many (not all) are Anxious Preoccupied, which explains being clingy and low income.
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 04:19 PM
14

"I never do this" Me: Uh huh. Yeah, me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 08:25 AM
2

You've already posted on here and had several conversations in your post's comments.
/r/MGTOW219/12/19 10:26 AM
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I love the idea of minimalism. Clutter and material things don't bring me any joy. In fact, they bring me discomfort. I dislike shopping, I hate having things on my shelves that aren't being used. Not to mention, minimalism encourages financial security and economic power, because you're not under debtors' thumbs. If people don't see that, they're nearsighted.
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 09:20 PM
1

I'd never get with a woman who expects any type of expensive jewelry. The real expense for me is the long term cost of a social life. Having to pay for 2 at bars and restaurants gets expensive, and I have financial goals that I don't want to sacrifice just so someone else can have a good time on my dime.
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 09:10 PM
1

Oh yeah. I love going on an occasional date and no strings attached sex. I like flirting too. What I don't like is courting, living together, and being responsible for someone else's emotions (other than my kids'). I won't marry again nor live with anyone, which is what the original MGTOW "motto" used to be. Some have chosen to take it a step further and go monk mode. To me, MGTOW isn't about hating women. I respect anyone who has their shit together, man or woman. MGTOW just helps me stay focus…
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 04:28 PM
3

I remember the first time I appreciated my "empty house" after my separation from my ex wife over 15 years ago. I didn't want her to leave, but on this particular night, for the first time, I had peace and quiet. I cooked my own dinner, at with all the lights off, no TV, no noise. It was so serene. That's when I realized divorce was for the better. Life's been calm since I decided to live alone. I don't think I'll ever cohabit again unless it's absolutely necessary (money or health problems).
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 04:13 PM
2

My dog's pretty fuckin expensive (medical), but he's worth it. *Actually, I just did the math. For being an expensive dog, he's still cheaper.
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 04:02 PM
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Being comfortable with oneself isn't pathetic; it's peace of mind. It's freedom. What's pathetic is dependency. In the old man's scenario, both men are pathetic: one needs a different woman every night, and the other needs a partner or he'll feel incomplete.
/r/MGTOW218/12/19 03:13 PM
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I believe religions are a tool to control people, but some religions also present a good guide for living a productive life, so I am drawn to some religious lessons. I don't think life is meaningless. If it were, animals, who don't have religions, wouldn't fight so hard to stay alive. I value my life and being happy. I value my kids' lives and happiness, as well. We have to give our lives meaning.
/r/MGTOW215/12/19 04:22 PM
0

Wet carrots get all the batches.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/19 01:25 PM
4

You user it to keep track of every dollar spent. You design the spreadsheet how you want or find one online that works for you. I designed mine and know, to the penny, how much money I've spent since June of 2003. This allowed me to track and regulate my spending.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/19 01:24 PM
1

How about "go your own way" I can't tell them that. GYOW is a big decision and a personal one. We all have to experience the bad parts of relationships before we decide whether pursuing relationships is worth fighting for. There are successful relationships and, although extremely rare, successful marriages. And, by "successful" I mean where both parties are genuinely happy. You're right, I think showing them the movie and having a conversation is the best thing to do.
/r/MGTOW213/12/19 03:04 PM
1

What van did you use, and what about repairs and reliability? How much was it to get the van-home built, in time and dollars? I'm sure it was less than the total cost of having to buy a car plus first month's rent and deposit . You're doing it right, man. Congrats so much. Your sacrifices have paid off. It sounds so cool, I bet they don't even feel like sacrifices, though, lol. What do your family and friends think of it all, van life and the home purchase? And the fact that no dating is what ma…
/r/MGTOW211/12/19 09:08 AM
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Wow. Just... wow! What an awesome post. You are living the dream. Whenever you miss vanlyfe, you can just go sleep in the van in you're driveway, lol.
/r/MGTOW211/12/19 09:06 AM
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Good to hear, man, congrats. Watch some Dave Ramsey vids on YouTube. Save your money. Make sure all your hard work hours don't go into someone else's pockets due to chasing materialism. Remember, the value of something isn't the dollars it costs, but the amount of hours of your life you had to give up at work. What I do is figure out exactly what I bring home per hour, then divide the cost of something by hours of my life. Are those fancy shoes that you don't need worth 10 hours of your life? If…
/r/MGTOW211/12/19 08:47 AM
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Infatuation. You're obsessed with their looks. Something instinctive in you is driving you to want them for just their looks. You're probably creating their personalities in your head and putting them on a pedestal. Infatuation gives the mind excitement and it's a driving force to feel special, so your mind is looking for someone beautiful to make you feel wanted and needed. It's all a primal, subconscious instinct. When you see someone you like, your brain releases certain chemicals that make y…
/r/MGTOW211/12/19 08:30 AM
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Man, all the reasons you stated for becoming an engineer are the same ones that made me choose that field. I wanted a guaranteed comfortable life; not full of material things, but enough to make me feel like I won't be out on the streets and that will let me retire at a good age. Most of all, enough money that would allow me to provide better opportunities for my kids. I grew up watching my mother struggle, went to a poor school with a bunch of criminal minded kids (including myself). I didn't w…
/r/MGTOW211/12/19 08:12 AM
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Thanks for posting this. I'm going to make an appt with my doc for a general checkup that includes prostate and colon checkup. My father died of colon cancer, so I should get checked earlier in life.
/r/MGTOW210/12/19 11:39 PM
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Thanks for posting this. I'm going to make an appt with my doc for a general checkup that includes prostate and colon checkup. My father died of colon cancer, so I should get checked earlier in life.
/r/MGTOW210/12/19 11:39 PM
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LOL, you can be here and comment whenever you want. Just be honest and don't be condescending or insulting. If you live in California, that cancer label may have been for the bag itself. Thanks for the steamer idea.
/r/MGTOW210/12/19 09:13 AM
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Happy birthday, man. Glad to hear you know how to appreciate yourself now and that your surrounding yourself with good people.
/r/MGTOW206/12/19 11:39 AM
3

Laying around writing your thoughts and dreams? How about you start putting in some work and getting shit done?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/19 12:19 AM
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Those who never tried it don't realize how much fucking time women consume. Amen to this. I look back on all the money and time I've wasted on women and kick myself for it. I have more money saved up and peace of mind since I've taken myself out of the game. I have a couple of FWB I call on occasion for sex (or they call me), and focus the rest of my life on me. I don't have to spend money on expensive things that hold no value, e.g. clothes, bar hopping, gifts, dates, upgrading cars, etc, and i…
/r/askTRP05/12/19 11:46 AM
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Brilliant. I do have kids and have no regrets but I don't have alimony or expensive hobbies, except for traveling on occasion. Hearing this made me feel great about my decision to stay single.
/r/MGTOW205/12/19 10:42 AM
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I'm working on getting there with women. For me I think it's fighting instinct; beauty attracts my attention. I want to move on from that. It's hard reprogramming the brain, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:45 AM
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Non Player Characters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:57 PM
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All of the advice of focusing on rebuilding your life and your happiness, independently of your spite for her, is correct. It took me a while to get my head straight, but eventually that's what I did. She left during my last semester of college, for her AP at that. I graduated and got my career started and focused on that and my son. Her marriage (to her affair partner) fell apart while my life was doing very well. Probably around 10 years after she left, she called and asked for forgiveness for…
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/19 10:00 AM
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None of these posts are complaints. They're just facts and experiences. I won't be responding to you anymore. Your verbiage comes across as condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:37 PM
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I never said there was a problem; just adding to the conversation. Some women were rude by inviting themselves to more expensive dates, so I stopped. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:20 PM
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Generally, women don't ask men out. Most guys have to do the asking, so they have to do the paying. An issue I had was some women leaning the date towards dinner, when I'd just asked them for drinks or coffee. I figured they'd end up paying their share since they brought up a more expensive date, but they gave me that look like, "You gonna get that?" when the bill came. I paid it and told them I wasn't interested in seeing them anymore. I've since stopped dating and started focusing on better, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:40 PM
1

How often do you ask men out on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:53 AM
1

I went to my mom's for dinner. I'm leaving to another country for 2 weeks this weekend, just to explore, and everyone was admiring how "adventurous" I am, lol. The married couples were telling me that traveling alone is the way to go. I'll take their word for it! Livin and lovin life, gents! GYOW!
/r/MGTOW229/11/19 04:22 AM
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I'm early 40s, and this is just my experience. Generally, I find childless women in their early to mid 30s to still be maturing A LOT, like in an extension of their 20s. I prefer the maturity of women in their 40s. 30+ y.o. women with kids tend to be more mature, but they usually have young kids. Again, I prefer women in their 40s because they usually have older kids which gives them more flexibility with dating. I find more women in their upper 30s+ are out of shape, so finding one that's an av…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:05 PM
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My God, man. This answer was cut throat and accurate. 40s is worse!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 12:41 PM
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Many women I know are absolutely destroyed when they fail. It's a human trait. Many men have break downs and even commit suicide when they fail, especially when they fail big like their business ventures, loss of family, etc.
/r/MGTOW227/11/19 04:42 PM
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My short term goals and long term goals are connected. When I achieve a short term goal, it's one step closer to my long term goal. Achieving short term goals keeps me motivated and focused; discipline is what keeps me working. Also, laziness begets failure. The people who are failures in life define the successful people, i.e. you can't have successful people in a society without people who have failed in that society. I don't want to define someone else's success. I want to be one of the ones …
/r/MGTOW227/11/19 04:13 PM
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Engineering and totally worth it for me, as far as an investment. I make a great salary. Paid my loans back in 3 or 4 years. 6 figure salary. I don't care who I had to be around. I met some good people, left and right wing (I'm middle of the road). It wasn't a party experience for me because I had to work full time and study. For computer fields, there are shorter, cheaper classes that are under $10k and only last a few months. If you have a good network of people or are a bit lucky, you can get…
/r/MGTOW226/11/19 03:58 PM
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College could have been better for me but 1) I made bad decisions to get into relationships, and that brought a lot of drama into my life, 2) I had to work full time, and 3) I majored in a hard field, so it just got harder. I was too wrapped up in my relationships and chose bad partners who were clingy and made my life hell. What's worse is, due to low self esteem, I thought that was normal, so I kept getting in those relationships. I see kids today who don't have that problem and are very secur…
/r/MGTOW225/11/19 11:02 AM
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Nice, thanks for the update. I'm starting minimalism on a much smaller scale: cutting dating and all related aspects such as bar hoping, buying things to impress women, and selling off the things that I don't need. I'm also paying off debts. Soon I'll only have my mortgage. Once my son is on his own, I'm gonna look into downsizing my home and focusing on things related to my hobbies. After reading several stories like yours, I may consider going further with minimalism.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 04:09 PM
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Yup, 20s are rough. Life only gets better, but enjoy life as much as you can at any decade.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 02:23 AM
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Interesting. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 01:16 AM
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They were divorced as far back as I can remember. However, she would always scream at him for something. She was always angry, like she wished he would die or as if his existence was a nuisance. I think I once asked her why she hated him, but I can't remember what she said. She treated her siblings like that too. Always lecturing and screaming. Now it's my stepfather's turn. I don't ever want to end up next to someone like that. Life is too precious to waste around unhappy people.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 12:17 AM
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Could not have said it any better myself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:14 PM
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Both. If one of us is tired or busy, the other respects that. To minimize emotional attachment, we don't spend too much time together. Once or twice a week and we don't talk about every little thing like relationship couples do. Yeah, we're in our 30s and 40s and know ourselves well, what we want, and communicate well. The girls I dated and I didn't have that maturity in our 20s, so there was more likelihood of someone being offended. If you learn good communication and are honest, you can proba…
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 02:11 PM
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Yes, they know. If they don't feel comfortable in this type of relationship then they don't have to be in it, and I certainly don't want to fool them into it. They don't ask any details about what else I have going on in my dating life, although one did ask a few general things about the other, I guess to figure out what other kind of women I'm into. She said she appreciated having an honest sexual partner. The other woman and I agreed to use condoms with anyone else we slept with, since she and…
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 01:22 PM
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This is what I do as well, only I would like to have more control over it. I may look into Zen or something else that deals with controlling one's urges. I thought the Stoicism reddit would lead somewhere with this, but it's more focused on virtue than on controlling the senses.
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 12:28 PM
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many men find MGTOW after being abused in this way and find self worth by avoiding defining themselves by their perceived arm candy. This is what MGTOW has done for me. Since I've been focusing on my hobbies, reading, and learning about everything, especially a few books on psychology and relationships, I feel like I've become twice the man I was. I'm much more confident and feel free of women's validation. It still creeps in from time to time, but that's common with most people. No one will tak…
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 12:21 PM
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We're still a tribe without marriage. Tribes, historically, traded, hunted in teams, played sports/games together, etc. Mankind still does that in modern society, only MGTOW do it without marriage. They work in teams, trade money for goods and services, play games/sports etc. Only now, technology has allowed game playing to be through an xbox and headset. The only way some MGTOW really deviate from evolution is those who decide to not have children. Marriage is just a religious tradition and isn…
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 10:28 AM
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You have a huge savior complex. You need therapy or you'll just keep making the mistake of choosing low quality women.
/r/Divorce_Men20/11/19 01:42 PM
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I agree. But he married his cousin.
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 01:36 PM
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I've dated quite a bit and I agree, it's hard finding a woman who's fiscally responsible and doesn't expect me to give up my financial goals to keep her entertained. The last chick I dated made 120k/yr and didn't have anything to show for it because she spent it on b.s. like 10 grand a year on fitness stuff. Ironically, she wasn't that fit. She invited herself to drinks and dinner expecting me to pay for it. I caught on pretty quickly that she was looking for a subsidized lifestyle and dropped h…
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 01:35 PM
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Cheers, my good man!!
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 09:07 PM
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I like this reply. It's true: most of us aren't born with the like of learning; we have to make ourselves like it. Eventually, our brain learns to appreciate the learning process more than the achievement. It's (partially) the enjoyment of the challenge that makes people better ball players, scientists, etc. The other part is discipline; motivation is fickle, so we need discipline to keep going.
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 08:56 PM
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From my experience, that pain lessens which means it will probably go away. I've focused on self improvement, and every day I'm happier than before. Happiness is my revenge and achieving my goals is the cherry on top. I can date if I want, but I have minimized it to almost none except for occasional FWBs, with whom I'm honest about being noncommittal. You need to distract yourself from your delusions of eternal love; after all, it's really just a biological instinct. Accept that there are things…
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 08:44 PM
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I'm proud to be reading this and excited for you. I made similar changes in my life over the past year after learning about the positive things some MGTOW were doing. Keep it up, man!
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 08:20 PM
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Jesus, I'll stick to 1 or 2 mile runs and lifting weights, lol. Good on you, though, man!!
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 08:17 PM
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A Brazilian therapist said he estimates that only about 5% of marriages are truly happy. The rest go through divorce, or have one or both partners who are unhappy, or are suffering from affairs or lack emotional connection, etc. *I don't feel like Googling the therapist's name.
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 08:13 PM
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It really is. I have my full time job (40 hours), hit the gym for a quick 30-40 minute workout 3-4 days/week to stay in decent shape, manage a couple of cheap rental properties and cut the yards on weekends, volunteer at an animal shelter doing simple maintenance around the building plus occasionally foster dogs, sometimes work on people's cars for money (oil, brake, belt changes) and have my son help me with a lot of these things so he can learn something, earn his own money, and so we can talk…
/r/Divorce_Men19/11/19 08:07 PM
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Wow, excellent read. I've spent the last year focusing on myself (as a long time single guy), having occasional FWBs, but totally just focusing on myself. My issue, however, is that I'm so involved with my life and hobbies that there is no room whatsoever for an emotional attachment and honestly, I don't want one. I may have just focused myself out of the dating market, lol.
/r/Divorce_Men19/11/19 12:11 PM
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I think in a good and true partnership you'd be able to be yourself at home. I've never experienced that, though, and from seeing many other people's relationships, most don't get to either. Many complain about being unable to be sexually expressive or being burdened with nothing but responsibility that they can barely ever relax or enjoy themselves, both of which I did experience in marriage and relationships.
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 11:53 AM
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LOL, hey man, desperate times call for desperate measures!!
/r/MGTOW216/11/19 11:59 AM
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Sounds like a good night. I met up with some Marines from my old unit and had drinks at a block party that's held by a restaurant in my city every Nov 10th. Marines drink free. On Vets Day, I'm going to get some free food at participating restaurants and meet up with a FWB who's a Navy girl. After seeing your post, I might heat up a frozen pizza.
/r/MGTOW211/11/19 07:05 AM
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I don't look for commitment, so I don't care what a woman's past is like. Although I'm a statistics guy, I do believe in looking at how someone has been living their life in recent years before mentally judging (not that my opinion really matters in anyone else's life). If someone has been volatile in relationships and recently just said, "Okay, I'm not going to be that way anymore," I'll likely not believe them. However if someone has been living well for the last 10 years, then I'm not gonna h…
/r/MGTOW210/11/19 04:04 PM
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RP guys are constantly sharpening their dating skills and make it a point to pursue women, often using misleading tactics. I don't believe in misleading anyone. Plus, I don't put in effort like that anymore. I've decided to start pursuing other, more fulfilling interests. If I meet someone along the way who wants to connect but no relationship strings attached, I connect. This is me going MY OWN way. The original MGTOW ideologies weren't those of sexless monks. They just seceded from the standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:54 PM
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I still date and fuck. I just won't marry or cohabit. Plain and simple. I agree that's its biological and a driving force, so I got a vasectomy to lessen the risks of being trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:41 PM
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No feminists on there. Have a look and educate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:09 PM
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r/MGTOW2 is where it's at. They don't allow all the anti woman crap on there. Conversations about relationships do pop up, but I think they're just support group kind of conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 08:47 PM
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Source of this vid?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/19 01:30 PM
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Since you specified the drawbacks of MGTOW, my list assumes it's a stable, healthy, loving relationship where the partners involved have a common goal, which is rare. By swearing off marriage and cohabitation you miss out on: An intimacy partner. Not just sex, but emotional and physical affection, which brings mental comfort. Shared expenses, assuming all parties work and contribute to retirement and investments. Sharing the workload around the house. A shoulder to cry on, so to speak, or a vent…
/r/MGTOW208/11/19 01:01 AM
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I'm not wired for relationships, so I wouldn't do it, but if it works for you guys, then great. My concern would be YOUR fulfillment, as stated in another comment. Eventually, most people reach a point where they want to have accomplishments outside of their relationship. But if the stability of your relationship is what you both aspire, then congratulations to both of you for finding what you want.
/r/MGTOW208/11/19 12:33 AM
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It's just me and my son comes on weekends. At most we'll have to take the trash out once a week, but once every 2 weeks is more common, unless I have a project around the house that leaves me with crap to throw away. I love living a life of low consumption. I feel like my environmental footprint is tiny compared to when I was in a live in relationship: restaurant trash, more home projects, consumer product trash etc.
/r/MGTOW208/11/19 12:19 AM
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Post worth saving. Thanks, man.
/r/MGTOW208/11/19 12:14 AM
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It depends on the parent's ability to be patient, wise, and nurturing whether a boy (child) is going to grow up to be toxic. My opinion: a lot of people just aren't these things, and since mothers are more likely to be left with the kid or leave with the kid, the result will be the majority of the fault falling on them in the public's eye. My (single) mother taught me all the wrong things about women growing up, but so did my father; they hated each other and distrusted the opposite gender. Ther…
/r/MGTOW207/11/19 01:32 PM
1

There are a bunch of black MGTOW Nazis all over youtube then, lol.
/r/MGTOW206/11/19 06:59 PM
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The Alt Right are racists who believe in segregation. If the author would look up MGTOW on YouTube, they'd find men of all races supporting GYOW.
/r/MGTOW206/11/19 04:18 AM
1

... you wouldn't understand.
/r/MGTOW206/11/19 04:14 AM
1

I hope life shows you the kindness you guys deserve. Thank you. I can honestly say that since going MGTOW2 (getting past the red pill rage of MGTOW 1), and learning to accept people's faults, including my own, my ex-wife's, and anyone who has wronged me, life has been great. I feel more independent and confident than ever. I have accepted that the system won't change, that there are bad people of all races, genders, and backgrounds, and that my attitude is what determines my happiness. Life real…
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 08:41 PM
1

Cook for 6 hours straight for a 20 minute meal? No problem. WOW!! I wish I had that much passion for cooking. It's a chore to me. I only cook food for energy for the next few hours.
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 05:01 PM
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MGTOW2
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 10:36 AM
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Yup. Highly toxic. I had to leave that reddit. I think a lot of them are just raging from rejection. A lot of guys who wanted to peacefully go their own way left that MGTOW reddit and went to a 2nd one that bans a lot of that negativity. From what I've seen, they don't trash talk women, but they do trash talk the system; I don't read all their posts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 10:30 AM
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I don't think OP should follow this advice. The only reason someone should dump their SO is because their life is better off without the other person, not as a manipulative tool.
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 09:41 AM
1

A "chocolate city?"
/r/MGTOW203/11/19 08:17 AM
1

the institution or methodology isn't flawed, only the participants. Which makes the institution flawed. An institution is only as good as it's participants. It's only the idea of the institution that's ideal. Practical application of said methodology will be highly imperfect. Hence, all the failed attempts of marriage in our society, not to mention the miserable marriages barely surviving. I'm not saying do away with marriage, but it has to be looked at with more distrust and with less hope when…
/r/MGTOW203/11/19 08:14 AM
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I can suck shit for a decade but not a lifetime Haha, worth remembering. Good luck with FIRE, btw.
/r/MGTOW203/11/19 07:57 AM
1

It's your instincts showing themselves. From a very basic, primal perspective, humans want to feel loved and appreciated. It's a deeply rooted instinct that helps human beings survive because we depend on a village to stay alive. Even the most isolated recluse depends on some human interaction for some of his survival, e.g. at grocery stores, for home or machine (car) repairs, etc. Having a partner satisfies those instincts for some; I know it does for me, but I satisfy that feeling with casual …
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 11:02 AM
2

Divorced back in 2004 and still not interested in marriage, especially after being cleaned out. If marriage is what someone I'm dating wants, then we go our separate ways. I have no attachment to the idea of being married, and I won't risk my kids' inheritance. I don't comprehend what people like about being married ( I can understand if they've found someone that's really a great long term partner/spouse, but not the institution of marriage itself). Also, whether a woman has money or not, the c…
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/19 02:17 AM
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Lawyers win, no matter what.
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/19 02:05 AM
3

I don't understand why, but I also have more luck with apps. And several women have told me I look better in person than in pics. Don't make no sense.
/r/askTRP16/10/19 10:38 PM
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I wish I'd made myself more focused, behaved less entitled, appreciated the challenge of difficulty, and gone active duty instead of reserves in the military. Life is great now, but I could have experienced many more positive experiences in my youth as well.
/r/MGTOW216/10/19 02:51 AM
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Never. I don't need the government or law in my relationships. A marriage is just a relationship with expensive lawyers involved. I'll forego the lawyer fees, thank you. Prenups aren't that safe. I'm fully financially independent, so I don't need a wife as a business partner. I'm emotionally independent, driven, and worked myself up from poverty, so I don't need a wife as a cheerleader to keep me motivated. I have a career, a solid side business, beautiful kids, a positive net worth, several rea…
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/19 12:21 PM
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Divorce is often emotionally charged, so she could afford to hire lawyers just to drive you broke.
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/19 11:48 AM
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If she makes more money, then she can afford better representation. Not worth the risk.
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/19 11:46 AM
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Excellent advice. Mankind needs each other to thrive. That's a cold hard fact. Even a recluse has some needs from the outside world, whether it's the cashier at the grocery store or the doctor giving a physical. That doesn't mean we have to be emotionally bonded to someone or adopt the tribe's way of thinking, just that we have to use each other to survive. And, if we want to thrive (not just survive) interaction with people who challenge you to think and do better is really the only way to do t…
/r/MGTOW215/10/19 12:14 AM
1

Best advice. I 2nd all of this.
/r/askTRP28/09/19 11:45 AM
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This. I'm in engineering and have seen good scientists for over a year being unemployed while applying at dozens of places. Because STEM pays well, employers are very meticulous reviewing everyone and will leave a position open for months until they find someone they like. They want the best employee they can find for the money they're going to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 11:19 PM
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Same here. My job provided the standing desk called a Varidesk so you can raise it and lower it easily for standing and sitting. Look into it if you can work behind a computer. Good luck, brother.
/r/MGTOW225/09/19 11:07 PM
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Usually in the conversation when we first match on an app or when I first meet them out somewhere, after a good bit of chit chat to charm them and to see if I like them as well. I won't actually say, "I'm non committal." You gotta be smoother than that. I say that I'm a point in my life where I don't want something too serious because I'm focusing on my hobbies and work but I'd like to find someone to hang with and have a good time. Sometimes I'll put on my online profile, "I'm past the marriage…
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:22 AM
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42 with 1 teenager left at home. Single, MGTOW but not a woman hater; I love women, I just won't commit nor cohabitate. I'm pretty straight up with telling the women I date that I'm non committal, but I never mention MGTOW. Some keep dating me, those who want marriage and kids move on. Life is great!
/r/askTRP22/09/19 11:56 PM
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Agreed. I play the field a lot and could get into a relationship easily. At the same time, I don't judge if a woman lives my lifestyle because that would be hypocritical. Depending on where her mind is, and if I wanted a relationship, I'd consider a "wild" woman for a relationship. The last one I had was a great partner and she and I lasted 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 11:47 PM
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I felt the same way as I watched the video. Must be a Marine thing, lol. Oorah, Devil.
/r/MGTOW222/09/19 10:00 AM
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I keep a small circle of 5 or 6 close friends and a wider circle of acquaintances. However, I don't discuss emotional or major problems with them. Friends, to me, are for fun and for support on small issues. I just don't like showing any weakness or burdening anyone with any personal issues. I keep my life simple enough that I don't need anyone for that kind of support.
/r/MGTOW222/09/19 09:33 AM
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I think it is hardwired into women that men are supposed to provide. I wouldn't say that it's in women's nature to want their husbands to be unhappy, but to provide, yes. I believe it's instinctive, just like men have certain instincts they can't fend off as well.
/r/MGTOW219/09/19 03:57 PM
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Going through the motions and doing everything in your power to achieve a goal is arguably the most important part. However, having confidence in that you did your best and being at peace with that, no matter the result, brings about more happiness than actually having achieved the goal itself. That's not to say, you may feel more accomplished if you get the result you wanted, and we should strive to accomplish as many goals as we can in life to boost our confidence and happiness; we just should…
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 04:07 PM
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I'm jealous of you in that you came to this realization so early in life. I came to it in my 40's. And what's best is that it sounds like you came to it peacefully, without all the fueled hate that some others have to experience before settling into a more peaceful mindset. Congrats to you!
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 03:03 PM
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posting it on a mgtow forum is destined to breed a plethora of "those wahmen" comments. You make a good point, but that is not my intention; I don't hate women, and I encourage women to pursue educations, careers, home ownership, etc independently. In fact, I date women quite a bit. I picture (most of) the men of MGTOW to be goal oriented and financially independent (at least relationship-wise, i.e. they don't need a partner to make ends meet). Perhaps I'm just projecting, but that's how I am, a…
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 02:32 PM
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Fully agree. I'm happy for the power couples that have and keep the same vision and work towards it. They know themselves and each other enough to make it work together. I, on the other hand, am far from a team player when it comes to relationships. I'm wired to be sternly independent, so I have to do it alone.
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 02:18 PM
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Exactly this! I give her credit for admitting she's having irrational thoughts, but I'd question: What does her subconscious want from a partner? Indentured servitude? To put her first above his own goals and wants? To always feel like he's taking care of her? Etc. In her core, why doesn't she want her husband to be happy?
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 02:12 PM
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Stay the course, brother.
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 02:08 PM
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Raw... and while still alive
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 08:46 AM
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Talk about wanting to keep a guy on the plantation and work him to the bone.
/r/MGTOW217/09/19 08:40 AM
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Where do you live that they believe in curses? They sound like a bunch of weirdos.
/r/MGTOW216/09/19 02:09 PM
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I let you guess why ! You would have gone your own way if you hadn't found someone that meets all your criteria, which from what you listed, is nearly impossible to find. Just last night I went out with a chick who's an attorney, has her own practice, and is a 10 on the beauty scale; it's taken years for me to find that kind of match. She's sounds like she's a pretty hardcore feminist, though. I don't have anything against equality, but she sounds a bit closed minded with her political views. Do…
/r/MGTOW212/09/19 12:09 PM
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just read in the RP subreddit about mothers. any particular thread? or just search "mothers" and read any topic that comes up?
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/19 09:43 PM
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Mine was kind of a shotgun wedding. Her father pressured us because she was pregnant. We were both very young, early 20's. We both stuck it out despite the circumstances because we felt that a family is worth working for, plus I believed the storybooks that said "Love will conquer our problems", and "if you work hard at it, things will work out in the end." Yeah, bullsh*t! That's nothing but a fairy tale. Eventually, we each turned into different people. We lasted 3.5 years and she left me for a…
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/19 08:55 PM
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I felt like you for months. Then one day it just clicked; I realized I was free to do what I wanted. I could now make changes in my own life and not compromise with anyone. So, I made a plan to organize my finances, set new life goals (pay off the house, get fit, etc), work on myself (read more, learn to play an instrument, etc), and focus on my son. I also eventually got a vasectomy so I could avoid any surprises. Hang in there. You just have to get used to your new life. Once you do, you'll ma…
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/19 06:58 PM
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That's a gamble. If they make good money, the ex can hire a great attorney and break you down even more.
/r/MGTOW211/09/19 12:59 PM
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Fair. Not sure where you live or your age, but in the states, many docs won't perform a vasectomy on a young person (nor on a married man unless they have the wife's consent; his body, her choice).
/r/MGTOW211/09/19 12:53 PM
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Also, don't tell her you got one. If she ever says, "I'm pregnant," bolt.
/r/MGTOW210/09/19 07:44 PM
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We can also look at the flipside of this (for marriage culture). In the future, it could be men who demand women with better salaries, and women will be the ones who have to prove they're good providers.
/r/MGTOW210/09/19 02:52 PM
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The real issue is that men aren't working on being successful for themselves, not to be marriage material. For some reason a lot of young men are losing their drive to achieve money and success. I understand that we all should live life how we want, and if that means making minimal money and playing video games in their off time, then by all means enjoy your life. Still, looking at the bigger picture, poverty across an entire category of people will mean under representation for those people inc…
/r/MGTOW210/09/19 02:47 PM
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Single male. I could never. I want my independence, plus, I only rely on myself. Plus, with the divorce rate as high as it is, I wouldn't want to risk not having my own career.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 09:23 PM
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Marriage when you're young and in the service is a COLOSSALLY stupid idea. Amen, Devil Dog. My son followed in my footsteps and enlisted. I'm out now, but I told him to not focus on any relationships; just casually date, and don't get a woman pregnant. OP, I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. It's going to be a super tough transition that will take years, but he can get through it, guaranteed. It took me about 10 years to fully recover financially from my divorce, although the emotional scars fr…
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 07:37 PM
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"I can't work late today. u/801735 is sick and I have to take care of him."
/r/MGTOW203/09/19 10:34 PM
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Sometimes the feeling of accomplishment comes much later, when the pain is gone, you've healed, and the tiredness has gone away. Months or years later, you look at the pics, think back to your persistence, and realize that only a few people will ever see what you saw at those falls. You'll also realize that most people not only would have quit, they would never have even started the journey because they scared themselves out of it, and that makes you stronger than them. Also, you learned some le…
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 10:51 PM
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Well put! I don't do relationships but I do date a good bit. Won't marry, won't cohabit, won't commit. Dating and sex are just for fun. My energy is used to focus on my career, side business, hobbies, and my teenage son, all which bring me genuine happiness and make me feel complete.
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 06:20 PM
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I say the best is still STEM, but I'm a horrible salesman.
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 01:00 AM
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She surrounds herself with only meatheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 10:57 AM
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Do you have any brothers and sisters who can follow their life's plans? You're doing what's right for you, man.
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 09:53 AM
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Fantastic. Congrats, man!
/r/MGTOW218/08/19 07:56 PM
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Congrats, man.
/r/MGTOW218/08/19 07:55 PM
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Slowly getting settled into my new house. My son and I hung up the TVs today. We had a lot of outdoor work this weekend too. Hot as hell, but we got a ton accomplished. This week, I'm riding my motorcycle to join other guys in the Smoky Mountains. Life is good, gentlemen.
/r/MGTOW218/08/19 07:55 PM
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Alpha. Not sure if it really aligns with MGTOW philosophy but a good guy movie. It's about caveman kid who befriends a wolf, and they both work together to survive in the wilderness, leading to the first union between man and dog. What really got to me was how much his father loved and taught him; a strong father/son bond.
/r/MGTOW211/08/19 11:26 PM
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Why so hostile, especially when someone gives a concise answer? You don't speak for everyone here with you dismissive rudeness. I personally do like when people want to learn about another mentality or philosophy and welcome them to learn about mine.
/r/MGTOW211/08/19 11:47 AM
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I second this. Thanks for the work you put in here.
/r/MGTOW211/08/19 11:32 AM
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Very good job, man.
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 05:21 AM
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This comment is full of freedom and happiness.
/r/MGTOW204/08/19 02:05 PM
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And women. No marriage means no divorce legal entanglements for anyone. If there's one business I'd love to see go out of business, it's Divorce Corp.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 10:33 AM
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I am setting a good example for him That's all you can do. Don't shove it down his throat. Let him date, make some mistakes, experience women take advantage of him (it will happen; it's inevitable). Eventually what you taught him will start to sprout and he'll choose to live a better, cleaner life on his own. The main thing is that he avoids investing everything into a partner. He has to protect himself because divorce rape is very real.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 12:48 PM
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I'm 42 with a lot of life experience, and I can vouch for this. Also, I recommend reading good books that make you a wiser man. Some books I have on my list are Cry Like a Man, Mindsight, Extreme Ownership, and other books on emotional independence (stoicism) and financial freedom. In order to be happy and have a balanced life, you have to have a balanced mind as well.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 12:34 PM
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Now that I'm older and have gone through the plantation phase of my life, I can totally relate to these lyrics.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:18 AM
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I just checked out a few of his videos. He's just a white knight who gives bad advice without psychological or statistical backing. He just thinks of a few examples to prove his point and considers it correct. Waste of time. I won't watch anymore if his garbage unless it's for Kardashian level entertainment.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 08:24 PM
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Story of my life
/r/askTRP12/06/19 12:49 AM
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Thank you for posting that video!
/r/MGTOW205/06/19 12:19 AM
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The days of traditional marriage are not over, IMO, but social media has made it more difficult by giving people a false idea of what's out there for them. This can put a strain on many marriages. AWALT is what you make it, when you think about it. It doesn't have to be a bad thing; for instance, if one said all women are maternal (for the sake of this example), that wouldn't be a bad trait. The idea of AWALT is based on common inherent and genetic traits that many women have, and people just lu…
/r/MGTOW230/05/19 11:15 PM
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It also allows legal consent to pull the plug, insurance claims on ones behalf which can be enforced by the law if the insurance company denies, inheritances, power of attorney, it gives the spouse the right to half your shit in the event the marriage is dissolved, etc. There are a lot of legal implications regarding the marriage certificate. Whatever you want to call it, it can be used in court for or against you. It also requires a judge to dissolve. I'm not going to argue with you over techni…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 09:55 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 09:49 PM
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A legally binding document then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:24 PM
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Well, were talking about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:23 PM
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Are you currently married? It sucked for me. Never again. The grass is 100% greener where I am in life now, and I've been divorced 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:36 PM
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In the eyes of the law it is, otherwise people wouldn't need lawyers and judges to terminate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:23 PM
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Good luck in your endeavors, man.
/r/MGTOW229/05/19 10:50 AM
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Something I do is have a savings account for all expected yearly expenditures: birthdays, veterinary visit, eye contacts and exam, auto insurance, auto repair and upgrades, and a vacation. I estimate all those expenses and deduct an exact amount out of every check. That way it doesn't hit me hard all at once when it's due, plus I can pay my auto insurance at once and avoid monthly fees. In a pinch, I can use those funds in an emergency. Anything leftover at the end of the year gets put towards a…
/r/MGTOW225/05/19 12:05 AM
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Mine sure did. My mother raised me to think women were innocent and men were evil, and that if a woman was bad, it's because men made her that way. I remember she once said something along the lines of, "I think women are living hurt because of the things men do." So, I was supposed to always stand up for women, be the protector, etc. ​ As I went into my teen years, trying to be a gentleman, I got trampled on by girls a lot. I betrayed friends to take girls' sides even when the girls were in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:19 PM
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You'll get laid even when dead, so it'll be a plus if she is.
/r/askTRP22/05/19 04:37 AM
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If their ex is still alive...that is strike number one against things becoming LTR. So if she stabbed her ex(es) to death, that nullifies this strike, right?
/r/askTRP21/05/19 09:58 AM
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"My body" too. If you want a vasectomy, you need your wife's written consent. It's a commonly followed practice in the medical field.
/r/MGTOW221/05/19 09:36 AM
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I love all the advice being given out in this thread, lol. I can attest to this, btw. I own a decent house, keep it nice, keep myself presentable, and focus on my hobbies. I get dates and I get laid. No one but my kids and I will ever live in my house, and fuck marriage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/19 11:37 PM
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I kind of feel this way. I enjoy sex. I just hate commitment. So, I date some. I've toned it back a lot since MGTOW, though.
/r/MGTOW201/05/19 02:03 PM
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I assume you mean the military part. I don't feel abandoned by society, just certain parts of it like family court, my value as a parent, as a provider, as a sexual partner, etc. In some aspects I feel respected by it because I have become successful by working hard and on my own. At the same time, I try to rely on society as little as possible. I was in the military and have encouraged my sons to go but as a means to pay for college, get work experience, and better themselves. Plus, people resp…
/r/MGTOW229/04/19 07:23 PM
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They do nothing beneficial, and can be replaced with alternative energy sources. You could even argue that they polluted more than helped humanity in recent decades You're only focusing on the rich executives, which can be done for any industry. Keep in mind millions of families have homes because of the jobs created by the oil industry and the supporting industries like steel, concrete, manufacturing, chemical companies, etc. You've been driving and flying across the country and world because o…
/r/MGTOW228/04/19 07:47 PM
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I told my son, who just left the nest for the military, that if he wants to inherit what I've built, prenup and DNA test. I'm not leaving my life's work to some broad that might be lying to him.
/r/MGTOW228/04/19 07:29 PM
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The real mgtow, at that.
/r/MGTOW224/04/19 01:10 AM
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Fuck, that sounds horrible. Hope you at least get to see your kids often. Most dads get screwed and only get every other weekend.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 09:53 PM
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Oh, he must have been abusive or neglectful! My mom does that whenever she hears a couple divorced: "He just left her." I always respond with, "She must have made his life hell."
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 09:41 PM
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Holy shit, what happened? ​ My divorce cost me a total loss of less than 20k, but then again, I didn't even have that in the bank, so I still lost everything and she got my credit destroyed in the process. I recovered, but I made sure to never share my credit/finances with a woman again.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 09:35 PM
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From what I read, original MGTOW was no marriage, no cohabitation, which I did for 10 years while in a relationship. I ran my own house and did what I wanted, and she did the same. Since that relationship ended, I've decided to remain single.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 09:27 PM
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I'm single, live on my own, at peace, debt free and a home owner, and I date using apps. I just tell them I'm not looking for anything serious because I'm past the marriage and kids phase in my life. Most don't swipe right because they are looking for relationships (or they think they're looking for relationships), but I just filter those out and hang out with the ones that know they aren't ready for relationships; most of them are older than me, I presume that it's because women in their 30's s…
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 09:24 PM
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Furthermore, who really wants to fuck someone who doesn’t want them? Rapists
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:09 PM
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Trucker. Working on a cruise ship.
/r/MGTOW221/04/19 09:00 PM
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I hope you find happiness, stability, and success in life, brother.
/r/MGTOW220/04/19 11:38 AM
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My mom was emotionally preoccupied due to financial instability, so she was distant with me. When I was a baby, her marriage to my father (eventually divorced) was volatile, so I bet that had an impact. Growing up, my mother taught me that men were bad. She once told me, when I was very young, that women turned bad because men hurt them. I grew up thinking that women were fragile creatures and that we men needed to save them. Of course, that led to me becoming a white knight and young girls toyi…
/r/MGTOW220/04/19 11:35 AM
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Fuck what they support. I buy what I need and just that. No one gets that much money out of me except for my investments. ... and my son's private school.
/r/MGTOW217/04/19 04:24 PM
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I've heard comments that made me feel uncomfortable at the time, but it's because I was being biased. If they'd been from women who were more attractive, I would have welcomed them. They were just mild comments about how I looked that day, but they'd go on and on with them. I don't get them that much anymore now that I'm older; in my 20's, oh yeah. ​ Another time, a woman coworker grabbed my butt while I was unsuspecting, but we were friends and she did it to get a funny reaction out of me. We l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:21 PM
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I go to the r/financialindependence and FIRE reddits. They don't talk about wasting money on all that crap you mentioned. Some are married, but they live frugally as a team.
/r/MGTOW213/04/19 10:43 PM
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Cheers, my good man.
/r/MGTOW213/04/19 12:44 PM
1

I have kids. I've been divorced for about 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:42 PM
1

I consider myself in the top 20%, in looks and money. I rarely get the hottest women, but I get women I'm attracted to and who are interesting. I'll admit that I'm probably in the lower part of that 20%, but I'm much happier being single than tied to just one woman, so this post and linked study don't apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:34 AM
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Yeah. Kellogg's has all kinds history on the back of the box about women fucking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:28 AM
1

I could care less So it does still matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:26 AM
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The reason I disagree with this is because your happiness is now dependent on someone else AND you're risking everything you've worked for to satisfy this dependence. This, to me, isn't going your own way. It's compromising in exchange for loving someone else. I do believe a man can have a relationship, live separately, and still be mgtow because he sets hard limits to protect himself. He hasn't risked everything because of being blinded by love.
/r/MGTOW211/04/19 11:15 AM
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Agreed. I have several female friends, I including a LTR ex who I still go have drinks with. They're great people. They don't try to use me nor try to screw me over. They even understand why I don't believe in marriage or cohabitation even though they do like those things.
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 03:22 AM
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Platonic. The word is after Plato who believed in celibacy in order to achieve clearer thought.
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 03:18 AM
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I thought 2 was for positive discussions and talk about our freedom, not criticize other people's lives and styles. This post looks like MGTOW1.
/r/MGTOW207/04/19 02:08 PM
1

I feel some of these generalizations were too broad (and harsh), as I've met some very intelligent women. However, I have met WAY more that focus on wanting to be entertained. I can't count how many OLD profiles I read where women say, "Make me laugh." I understand that dating is entertainment, but it comes across as demanding and superficial, and damn it if I wouldn't mind coming across someone that actually poses a good question that makes me think.
/r/MGTOW201/04/19 03:08 PM
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I don't look at all women as being so underhandedly conniving, although I do feel most do subconsciously want a man to take on certain responsibilities off their shoulders so they can breathe easier (or be lazier, lol), like finance/budgeting, more money into the household, home/auto repairs, future planning, etc, while wrapping all that up with a cloak of wanting companionship. If the relationship works out, then it works out. If not, they don't have anything to lose. Relationships get old, how…
/r/MGTOW201/04/19 02:57 PM
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It's not a popular opinion because all the misogynists from MGTOW 1 are who everyone focuses on. We're just in our quiet little corner here, lol. Personally, I wish they'd shut up with all their hatred and just move forward with their lives. Although, I don't mind their posts about how they feel free, now that they don't have a spouse holding them down anymore. It's how I felt after I adapted to being divorced.
/r/MGTOW201/04/19 12:02 PM
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Well, resource "sharing" is part of marriage, lol. However, from a romantic perspective, many people still need/want companionship, and I can see how she'd feel women are being robbed of that as well. I won't risk losing what I've spent my life working for, however.
/r/MGTOW201/04/19 11:55 AM
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Sometimes people fuck with people they know are hotter than them just to feel good temporarily, but their low self esteem makes them cut off the relationship before they're rejected.
/r/askTRP01/04/19 02:27 AM
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Unmatch. If he's attractive and charming, he's got several other women he's talking to, and he probably found others he's more interested in.
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/19 11:45 PM
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There's so much that can be questioned or assumed with those stats. For instance: married men may live longer because men who live a life of crime are rarely married and more likely to die are single men who take care of their health with proper diet and exercise less likely to live as a married man who doesn't? Unlikely. are men who are married more prone to be natural risk takers? Unlikely. They're more likely to be safe, mild mannered, and probably boring men are men who've been married for s…
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 10:09 PM
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Welcome. I don't expect this sub to give you much hate. Most of the guys here just want to live their own lives in peace. Plus, all the negativity of the original mgtow sub caused the creation of this one.
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 09:45 PM
1

Well said!
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 09:41 PM
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I'm skeptical of this as well. Earlier you said women are being robbed. Of what?
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 09:38 PM
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I choose to describe myself that way because of what the label means to me. When I first read about it, men were choosing to live life outside of what is planned for all of us: get married, have a kid, please the wife by keeping her happy, and place myself at the bottom of the happiness pole and focusing on the family. The men I read about were achieving goals like saving and investing their hard earned money, becoming fit, going on vacations they wanted to go on, buying themselves the toys they…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:24 PM
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This guy knows the secret to happiness.
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 11:40 AM
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I do choose to identify with them, but I read that initially MGTOW was about not giving legal power to women through marriage, cohabitation, or having children. Then it evolved to men not dating, then some started avoiding women except for professionally, and then the angry guys who hate women infiltrated. The r/mgtow2 reddit is more in tune with my feelings, as I don't hate anyone. Thanks for the boom recommendation. I'll consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 11:32 AM
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I'm part of your 3rd group. I date like in the 2nd group, but I wouldn't say I use women. I make my intentions clear: "I don't want to commit to anyone; I had a horrible divorce experience and some bad relationships, and I find that compromise is hard for me; also, I worked extremely hard for what I have and don't want to risk losing it to anyone." I'm considered MGTOW because I won't marry or cohabit in order to preserve my money. Regarding my money, it's not that I'm stingy. It's that I grew u…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:47 PM
1

You can both agree that you value the risk of marriage differently. He's looking at marriage as the partnership it's supposed to be, and he trusts others. MGTOW, OTOH, value their independence more and aren't trusting of other people, therefore we focus on the risks. I wouldn't make this a debate. Just realize that each if you wants different things in life and relationships.
/r/MGTOW230/03/19 12:14 PM
1

Maybe teaching her about the red pill and how guys just wanna fuck will guide her decision to not fuck just anyone. ​ Also, if you try to make her celibate, she'll probably rebel. Just tell her she needs to make informed decisions and potential outcomes of making bad ones. That way she feels in control of her life.
/r/MGTOW229/03/19 02:38 PM
1

I'll never be happy if I hate someone, and miserable if I hate an entire population. Hating women is no better than being a racist, or a religious extremist, or any other person who blames their problems on other people. Blaming other people for your decisions which led to your problems holds you back from self improvement because you give those people control of a part of your life. The truth is that hate destroys one's own happiness. You'll never be able to truly go your own way if a group of …
/r/MGTOW225/03/19 02:25 PM
7

...can't speak English well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/03/19 01:26 AM
1

Check the rape kink reddit.
/r/askTRP23/03/19 12:44 AM
22

Or it's the truth and she made it sound like a joke to throw him off.
/r/askTRP08/03/19 01:50 PM
1

It's settling for the low value women that ruined the experience for me. When I hook up with a woman that's attractive and smart and there's a connection, it's a great feeling. But there has to be a limit to that connection, because I get bored of relationships as well. If women (sex) are my goal to better myself then I see myself as their slave, and it means they have the power to manipulate me. I find personal enjoyment in reading, learning, being in good shape, and having great experiences. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 06:59 AM
3

Technically, she's not whining anymore.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 12:37 AM
1

Charm, humor, and good enough looks. I learned about a lot of stuff so I always had something to talk about, which impressed women. Also, I didn't push too hard to not sound desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:20 AM
8

I stopped counting in the 50s, but I'm sure I've not been with 100. Most was during my 20s and some in my 30s. I've done a lot of self discovery, and this is what I experienced and learned about myself during that time: I had a very low opinion of myself. I had sex with women to feel better about myself. The feeling of validation didn't last. The confidence I got from so much promiscuity was false. I settled a lot, sleeping with some low value women just for the sake of fucking someone. This mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 10:49 PM
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Whenever I hear or read "Traditional", "Old school", "Courting", or anything regarding chivalry, I think "Entitled brat who refuses to pull her own weight and just wants to use men for their money." My money is my time. It's what I'm going to leave my children along with the knowledge of how to manage it so they'll have more opportunity in life. I'm not spending my life working and investing so some entitled brat who thinks her vagina is priceless can steal that from my kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 09:53 PM
3

So you were Steve Carell and he was Ryan Gosling from Crazy Stupid Love.
/r/askTRP24/02/19 11:15 AM
1

I'm sorry you had such a shitty upbringing. I admire you listening to your logic and calling off your relationship, however. I grew up with divorced parents who hated each other. My father taught me that women use men for money and resources. On the flip side, my mother taught me that men were abusers and oppressors, and that women were the victims of men, and that if a woman was bad, it was because a man made her that way. I grew up mostly with my mother so her lessons stuck more than my father…
/r/MGTOW224/02/19 10:58 AM
3

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? ​ It sounds like you just want to vent, bro. Maybe the MGTOW2 megathread is the place to go for that.
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 10:53 PM
2

I think this is a ridiculous topic. Women are adults who work and take care of children. Of course they should be able to drive. What do you want next, Sharia Law? Jesus. Also, the statistics can be turned in anyone's favor and opens the floor to other forms of discrimination, e.g. age, race, education level, line of work (scientists and engineers are less accident prone), etc. On top of this, people, men, the lower 95% have much bigger problems to worry about and discuss than to be so nitpicky.
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 08:51 PM
1

My post history has positive stuff and investment moves I've made, plus I get laid like Ghengis (although I don't think I mention this much), and I've not been harassed. I have been banned from commenting on AMO30. I'm a man over 30 with a lot of life experience in willing to share but since I'm on this sub, they don't want my opinion, no matter how positive or helpful it may be. For a while if PM the person on there who was asking advice, and they'd thank me for it, but after a while I just del…
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 09:18 AM
1

While I do believe that many men, especially young ones, lie to get what they want, or maybe they're confused about what they want, I don't agree with this statement. ​ I used to tell F'sWB who I genuinely liked how I felt about them, which was the honest truth. I really did like them. But, I wasn't ready to commit, and maybe I liked them as a FWB, maybe I liked them as a person, but I didn't want them as a gf, for whatever reason. They'd even ask me to tell them how I really felt; and I told th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:58 PM
2

This is interesting; I never thought about this. I guess you can call this being put in the "boyfriend zone", just like guys put female friends in the "girlfriend zone" and the girl rejects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 10:49 PM
1

Whether it's feminists or any other living creature on this Earth, If I don't matter to them, I don't pay them any mind. Even if it's my own family, if they don't care about me, then I move on with my life without them. Worrying about their opinion of you just weighs your inner peace down. Focus on yourself, don't wish ill on anyone, and live your life, pursue happiness, achieve your goals. It's the best way to be above anyone who wishes you misfortune.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 10:01 PM
1

Thanks, brothers!
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 11:22 PM
1

If you mean investment debt, no, I'm playing it cool. I don't buy a property until I've paid off the one I have. Also, I only borrow what I can afford based on one income stream. I can lose my job, OR have no renters and still afford the loan.
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 11:19 PM
1

She's living the life she wants, but not one I'd want. 5 kids, 3 dads, divorced twice, car note, mortgage. She has a job, got her education, but she lives a pretty stressful life. I don't hold any animosity anymore because that would just eat away at my inner peace. I learned my lesson, and I wish her the best.
/r/MGTOW218/02/19 11:17 PM
1

Well, you won't get any perspective on romance here, lol. Life, definitely. Life experience creates a mentality of going ones own way.
/r/MGTOW215/02/19 09:14 PM
8

I'm sorry to hear how that bitch of a step mother took everything. I bust my ass so my kids and one day grandkids will have a comfortable future. To have a woman that I dated for a brief time take it all would be a slap in the face. Even moreso if she passes it on to her kids.
/r/MGTOW215/02/19 09:11 PM
1

A lot of good advice here. The one thing I'll add is to not let this hate consume you. You will just end up tearing yourself down and sabotaging your future. Don't hate women, just accept that relationships bring complications, you're at an age where girls are immature, you'll meet grown people who are just as immature, and learn how to minimize contact with such people. Avoid them humbly, too, not with rage. Otherwise they'll see that they're getting to you and continue fucking with you. Brush …
/r/MGTOW214/02/19 07:27 AM
16

You made the right call. She is clearly heartless and entitled. She would have continued to try controlling all other parts of your life. A dog is emotionally attached to it's master. You don't just abandon it for convenience.
/r/MGTOW213/02/19 11:40 AM
10

100 times this. Up vote earned!
/r/MGTOW213/02/19 11:37 AM
1

I say let her go if you know she's not good promotion material. 1, you don't know if she's really fucking other guys. 2, if she's going to try hard and be let down anyway, she's gonna go psycho on you. Then you got another mess on your hands.
/r/askTRP11/02/19 10:44 AM
6

At first I thought it kind of cheesey to have a Valentine's ritual at all, but I actually liked reading this.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 10:18 AM
2

Dude, one time my kid, 5 at the time, ended up in the hospital. When I informed the chick I was dating, her response was, in a disappointed tone, "Well I guess that means we're not going to Atlanta this weekend." I FUCKING.WENT.OFF! I yelled at the top of my lungs how my son was in the hospital, and all she could think of was how her fun was being interrupted. I screamed at her to never call me again. Fuck selfish bitches.
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 12:49 PM
2

That cameraman was hilarious. Thanks for a comical start to my day.
/r/MGTOW10/02/19 12:30 PM
2

Try calling the animal shelter or a no kill shelter.
/r/MGTOW228/01/19 04:38 PM
9

I don't like to talk about it with people, especially people I don't know well, because so many are judgemental about it due to all the hateful views in the MGTOW 1.0 category. I rather just live my own life and tell people relationships are too complicated, and I'm focusing on myself and personal goals.
/r/MGTOW224/01/19 02:26 AM
10

I can't offer any advice, but sounds like sometimes you're just a little bored and lonely, and on those days you wish you had someone. Maybe acknowledging that can help you on those days. Like maybe get a hobby that keeps your mind occupied like exercising or something positive.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/19 12:23 AM
6

I believe this, but it took me way too long to realize I don't need women's validation. I wish I could have learned it with just 10 or 20 good, attractive women. Instead I needlessly threw a bunch of less attractive women into my count as well.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/19 12:07 AM
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You don't just get a dog to get something out of it, you do it to give a dog a good life and loving home for the rest of its life. A dog is a tremendous responsibility. It means repairing things they may destroy, filling in holes in your yard, training responsibly and not just beating them, vet bills, going home right after work, and not abandoning it at the shelter just because it's too much work or you got bored.
/r/MGTOW223/01/19 02:49 PM
4

Stick to your guns, brother.
/r/MGTOW222/01/19 07:35 PM
2

She sounds a little entitled.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 11:04 AM
4

I don't care. It's my way, not yours.
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 09:54 PM
7

Life is fantastic being single. I love it.
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 08:45 PM
4

I date but I won't get serious, won't cohabitate, and will never remarry. I'm just looking for some fun companionship with no strings attached. I'm honest about all that with anyone I date. I space out my time with anyone to avoid emotional attachment. I won't invest a lot of money into dating either. I like the company of women (the sane ones). I like sharing ideas and experiences. I also still like sex. I have the best luck with women who have been divorced and are fed up with the complication…
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 04:10 PM
3

This is me.
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 03:56 PM
0

r/redpillwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 02:42 PM
2

This could be it. I knew a couple of young women who "confessed" to their BFs that they'd cheated by saying they were raped, and they just wanted to forget about it. The truth in these particular cases was that they we're ashamed and didn't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. Meanwhile their BFs wanted to go kill the other guy, but the GF needed to talk them down.
/r/askTRP20/01/19 11:27 AM
3

I just barely make the 20% cut with women and money. Six figure salary, good build for my age (40), not ripped and huge but look good in a tank top, educated and knowledgeable about many topics, can play the guitar and piano some (instant panty dropper), and I get a decent amount of women, although not the best of the best in looks but they are attractive to me, not fat, and have class. Also, I prefer women closer to my age. My lifestyle is not glamorous. I drive a nice, but old truck, have a Du…
/r/askTRP17/01/19 03:20 PM
42

When they CAN keep their hands off you, you're a beta.
/r/askTRP17/01/19 01:23 PM
11

What if all the girls are bar hopping and they end up at all the same bars? Then you look like a killer stalking his prey.
/r/askTRP08/01/19 11:38 AM
1

I want to invest a greater portion of my pay. Right now I'm at 33% of my take home to go towards real estate and my son's private school, plus 8% going into my 401k. Ideally, I'd like to be saving and investing 50% (10% 401k, 40% take home for real estate). I want to live simply but comfortably and then leave my kids with an inheritance and the knowledge of how to manage it. I come from a lower class background, and it's taking a lot of discipline to achieve this.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 12:57 PM
2

It sounds like you're just using it as a tool against women who want to flex on you. That's a RedPill method, not really going your own way.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 12:40 PM
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I disagree and feel sorry for her, but I upvoted because of your last line.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/01/19 12:24 PM
3

This is what I figured. I go to RPW to explore the same thing. Thanks for your input, and don't let the few hateful ones run you off.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 12:08 PM
6

Office work may be a bit boring but you should have more energy to go your own way at the end of the day. You're a wise one. I did labor jobs for years then got an office job and have been doing that for over 15 years. I miss laboring some days, but not when it's rainy, cold, or hot. Plus I have enough energy to hit the gym, a little time to check emails and investments on the computer, and I get to network and socialize with a wider group of people.
/r/MGTOW205/01/19 09:52 PM
4

Man, I'm there with ya. I make good money but I lived so below my means in order to pay off my small house, and have been fixing my old truck anytime something has gone wrong with it (thanks, YouTubers). Now I could work at Walmart if I wanted and still afford to live. It's all about sacrificing image and avoiding consumerism, man. Nobody really pays attention to or cares what kind of phone, computer, brand of clothes you have anyway.
/r/MGTOW204/01/19 01:55 AM
1

Do you have screenshots of this conversation of his villainous plot?
/r/MGTOW203/01/19 02:13 PM
1

True. I spent a lot of money on bullshit when I was married. I realize that it was a coping mechanism. We bought shit just to deal with being unhappy and overworked between work, college, and family life. Every waking moment was work. Now that I'm single, life is much more rewarding. I got divorced then graduated and eventually focused on debt versus buying shit. Now my house is paid off, and I'm focusing on investing so I can enjoy life and leave better opportunity for my kids.
/r/MGTOW203/01/19 02:11 PM
4

Welcome, man. That was a good post, especially the Bruce Lee quote. Thanks for posting it. I've been preaching positivity for some time, and sometimes still get downvoted here when I say I hold no animosity towards women (I just won't commit to them). I hope too many angry r/MGTOW rejects don't come here and try to fuck up the positive flow. The guy who started r/MGTOW2 seems to be on top of his shit, though.
/r/MGTOW203/01/19 01:51 PM
3

Its wholesome to see a positive progression in people, This is why I'm here. I feed off positive energy and motion and like sharing mine. I spent years expressing anger over having been screwed over by my ex-wife and her issues. I think I've made it up to myself for holding myself back like that. And progress is still being made. Women's presence and fair opinions are welcome here by me and some other men I've seen. I do like another perspective, and I can't ignore half of the Earth's population…
/r/MGTOW201/01/19 04:33 PM
1

My son was 4 when the divorce went through. My other son was born after a breakup with a following ex. My daughter is my stepchild with that ex. She was 4 when I first met her.
/r/askTRP30/12/18 08:44 PM
1

If my wife and I aren't getting along, then living together isn't fantastic for the kids. Studies throw in single moms and dads who are unstable and bad parents. It takes responsible adults who put the kids' needs first above all else, and those are education, love, respect, manners, and quality time, all which we achieved even while divorced.
/r/askTRP30/12/18 08:40 PM
2

In this cold??
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 12:56 AM
2

The most MGTOW comment of all
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 12:55 AM
1

A woman commenter on here, I think her name was Aphrodite or something, said that women like to be where men are. The answer is likely that simple. Also, every woman has a friend that has sworn off men for prolonged amounts of time, so they may have that person's perspective into why men are doing it. Plus, some women are very interested in the topic of man/woman relations and all of its subcategories, which this would be one.
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 12:48 AM
4

Everything about that video is some gloryifed woman and I get that everywhere I turn Not busting your chops, just making an observation: What everyone gets is glorification of women for just being born. This one kill 59 Nazis, saved Allied troops, and sacrificed her life at the mere age of 20; I can appreciate her accomplishments. Hell, a lot of young men could learn from her.
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 12:24 AM
5

Glad you brought up the subject and shared your experience. I love MGTOW2 positivity!
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 12:03 AM
1

I was raised by divorced parents who never remarried and I've done the same with my kids. It has worked for us, but we had to live close by to really make it work. What matters is the quality of the time spent together to make up for the week days my kids and I didn't see each other.
/r/askTRP30/12/18 12:01 AM
13

I'm reading all these comments about needing to be married to have children. I don't understand that, because I've done just fine raising my kids while divorced. The key has been getting my kids every single weekend and keeping them during their breaks from school. During that time I've taught them about finance, money management, auto mechanics, home repair, and at the same time playing video games with them, taking them on camping trips, and cooking meals and cleaning our home together. My old…
/r/askTRP29/12/18 09:48 PM
6

Yes, but something I realized recently was that although it always helped my mind by exerting bottled up energy, working out with the wrong mentality was sometimes counterproductive. I used to workout because of major insecurity, to the point where I'd injure myself, or it wouldn't relieve me of whatever was going on in my head. My body just didn't have enough energy to get rid of those negative emotions. Eventually I sought therapy and focused on learning things, like philosophy and finance, to…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 09:17 PM
6

Should we make r/angryMGTOW to allow venting? Oh shit it already exists
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 11:53 AM
9

Dude just lost like 250 lbs.
/r/MGTOW29/12/18 01:56 AM
3

MGTOW is more of a self awareness guide to life with women and a men's health group to help aid you in self success. MGTOW is about you finding yourself and going your own way Amen. Not to bring up MGTOW1, but a lot of guys there acted like you had to hate women to be part of this ideology, and the more you hate, the higher you rank. It was like the only way to say you're going your own way, was to do it their way, lol.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 09:12 PM
14

This is me; MGTOW was originally about barring marriage and cohabitation, which is how I live my life. I'm pretty much emotionally unavailable, but I do like going out to mingle, being social, and having fun. Plus, I like sex. My looks aren't Hollywood level, but I get enough attention and compliments and don't want to let all that go to waste, lol. Finding a woman that doesn't want to work up to a serious commitment is a little harder, but still common. I filter out all the women that say they'…
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 04:48 PM
3

if she wants an expensive wedding, she'll make a lousy wife. Oh man, that's a good one.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 03:01 PM
6

Assisting a journeyman would be great. You'd learn a trade.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 08:43 AM
2

Be sure to read the rules here. Things are chill and good here. We don't want all the negativity of the original MGTOW sinking this ship.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 08:41 AM
5

selling sex is perfectly legal while buying it is not WHAT.THE.FUCK?? WOW! That is absolutely prejudiced and horrible.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 01:27 AM
1

For my case, I disagree. I'm not Brad Pitt or Jay Hernandez, but I did grow into my looks, charm, and started making good money. Plus I'm a good father to my kids. Although not every woman wants me, I still have a very desirable RMV, which I won't give to anyone anymore. To add to that, except for a few, the women I knew in high school now don't look that good. And even if the pretty ones don't want me, they've recommended me and tried hooking me up with their attractive friends. Plus, I occasio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:22 AM
1

Not in America. At most it's 22% in some states, but overall it averages to less than 20%. If you have accurate stats that show differently, please post them.
/r/MGTOW227/12/18 01:04 PM
4

If you let that anger overcome you, you'll wreck any progress you've made and any future to have a love life with anyone and with yourself. Stop expecting people to like you, and work on your own happiness. Right now you're giving the key to your happiness to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:01 AM
5

Too much bias in the article. For example, the author blamed the gender pay gap (stating "all things being equal) for men still being the bread winners while women stay home. Then I read the gender pay gap study linked in the article, and it only averaged pay based on gender and then race. It didn't take into consideration careers, e.g. Engineering is 90% men while teachers are 90ish% women, so naturally men are going to earn more in this comparison. Maybe this is why a married couple chose the …
/r/MGTOW226/12/18 12:42 PM
1

I won't marry anyone. Still, I prefer women with experience, so I wouldn't even date a virgin. As far as >100 partners, there's an issue there for anyone, man or woman. Not marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:59 AM
1

I think it’s important to break down the components rather than a broad label of “marriage” because there’s not only one way to do marriage Correct, but there are standard things required in all marriages, like compromise and communication. I've grown accustomed to not have to check in with anyone or ask permission. Then there are common things like sexual monogamy. I like changing things up. I'd have to find a poly or swinger wife, which is rare. Then there would be finding someone else to slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:57 AM
1

See I’m still open to marriage because I wouldn’t get with.......or act that way myself It took well into my 30s to realize what a proper partner should be. Which means I shouldn't have started looking for a partner until then, which means I'd likely just be getting married now at 40 and starting a family. I'm almost past that part of my life (1 kid left to raise) however, and it's time to start enjoying my money (hence the motorcycle trip). And I get to enjoy it how I want. Now, my funds aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:49 AM
1

You likely put a lot of work into your life right now. But your current company keeps you less miserable. No, I don't. Not to brag, but life's very easy now. I only work 40 hours a week and take several vacations a year; this past summer I rode my motorcycle for 6 weeks touring N America, all the way up to the Arctic. My house is paid off and I have no other debts. I didn't have to worry about upgrading cars and homes like most married couples do, or like a materialistic person does, which means…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:30 AM
1

*I edited that comment since you posted. I don't want that job. I want to enjoy life, and I live it very well now; life's an adventure. There's no compromise, which is the cornerstone of marriage. My only job is raising my sons, which comes naturally to me. Yes, I had a controlling partner who expected me to read her mind. When she wasn't happy, it was my fault. She took it out on the people around her. I won't say I wasn't guilty of being hard either; I'd have to change who I am to be a good hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:19 AM
1

It's forever. It is supposed to make you happy. It's the proper thing to do for self and for the kids. It will provide stability through responsibility and commitment. Despite the bad days, it will be blissful. We'll have sex at least twice a week because we'll love each other. You work at keeping it together no matter what, and it's a team effort. Instead, it felt like every aspect of it was a job. I had to go to work, then come home and work more. Even keeping the sex interesting was a job; se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 10:58 AM
1

I haven’t been married but I get it. I just don't. Nothing more tangible than someone who will do all they can to see you succeed. You could lose all your tangible shit tomorrow and there’s someone that loves you enough to commit to helping you build it back up. They can also tear it all down. Humans are interdependent by nature. And I doubt you’re the next stage of evolution lol. Of course. Like I said, I have friends and my kids. I just won't get married because of the legal risk. Why did you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 10:59 PM
1

Like anything you invest 5-10+ years of your life is gonna be a big risk. Marriage, career etc. Risk is inherent with great reward. If you don’t want the reward then I guess it’s fine. That's where you and I differ. I get no fulfillment from a marriage, therefore it's not worth the work and commitment. There's no reward for a guy like me. I have a hard time seeing what the reward is for anyone. I wish someone could make me at least understand, because it wouldn't appear like shear madness and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 06:45 PM
1

You'll have to Google. I have other things to do. But share of you get curious enough to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 06:17 PM
1

Here you go. I found a study with slightly more optimistic figures. 3 years old. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/ft_15-12-4-college-marriage2/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 02:49 PM
1

I read it a month or two ago. I'll look it up for you. If you don't think 50% is high then no wonder you're optimistic about marriage. Considering that people can lose up to 2/3 of their net worth to legal fees, I'd say it's a big risk. Are you married? How do you feel about the potential to lose half of everything you've worked for, whether it's marriage or any other financial investment, i.e. would you wager everything you own on a stock that has a 50% chance of succeeding/failing? I've been c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 02:46 PM
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Thanks for posting this. I'm working on ridding my subconscious of this loss of cognizant performance. It's engrained in all of us, so one probably can't get rid of all of it, but I'd like to be in as much control as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 01:14 PM
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