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CMVMarino4K/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:02 PM
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Purge Science!Marino4K/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:03 PM
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NYE Purge Post!Marino4K/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:19 PM
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There's plenty of people that are likely only considered "attractive" because of their wealth, status, etc. I'm supposed to believe people find Post Malone or random skinny as a stick Kpop dudes attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:22 PM
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Absolutely in a second. Have all sorts of options available to me at all times just for the validation if nothing else? Sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:18 PM
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This is the same capitalism that has had two "once in a lifetime" crashes within 20 years we're talking about. This is why I roll my eyes at anyone who aggressively defends capitalism as the be all end all economic system.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:20 AM
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Imagine us left libertarians/mutualists, there's dozens of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:17 AM
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If you're a woman, no I would disagree. If a woman has no social circle of her own/friend group, that means she will overly rely on the other partner in the relationship for everything social related which can be taxing on that other partner if they sometimes need to recharge alone. I've dated women like that. My girlfriend now understands I need alone time to recharge and she respects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:02 PM
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so many profiles telling guys don't just dm them "hey" and to be creative, but in my experience using Bumble where women have to message first, the vast majority of dms I got were some variation of hey or hi or some waving gif Women on dating apps are full of double standards usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:35 AM
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The Homecoming King was always archetypically the C-student QB, not valedictorian That's because contests like that were always just popularity contests, not intelligence ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:52 PM
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Yeah I tend to privatize my relationship more than my girlfriend does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:44 PM
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To be fair, the thread is talking about attraction, not dating, hooking up, etc. Regardless, I'm 33, if I was back out there dating today, I'm not dating anyone under 25, I need some level of maturity, but on the flip side, I probably wouldn't date anyone my age or over either because a lot of women in my age bracket have the strong urge to have kids if they want them and don't have any already and I'm in absolutely zero rush for kids. I will say, I can't imagine being out in the dating world to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:12 AM
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BMI is trash if you're active in the gym or work an active job. I'm 5'8, 165lbs. I'm just "overweight" according to BMI which is ridiculous. You can look at me and tell I work out and have muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:09 PM
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There's everything attractive about a man who is soft and sensitive. There's everything attractive about a man who can articulate his emotions without rage or anger or violence. There's so much attractive about a man who can use his words and shed a few tears over punching holes in walls or breaking game consoles. That first one would not be attractive to most women. Your 2nd and 3rd ones would be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:24 PM
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If a woman has to “find her friends”, then that means that she’s not really attracted to that guy. I still can't believe some guy don't get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:07 PM
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There are women my age who I have nothing in common with and women younger and older who I have more in common in Funny you say this because I tend to agree. If I wanted to date older, I likely could, I'm a guy in my early to mid 30s who's in shape, looks younger than my age except my grey hair who's got most of my shit together. That same logic could work for younger women who don't like the fratboy douche scene of mid to late 20s guys who like a slightly older guy who still likes to have fun a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:27 PM
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being shy and being introverted are two different things I don't know why so many people mix these two things up. They're very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:57 PM
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He is most certainly not a 10. His status and wealth is what propels him still.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:14 PM
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Maybe not to you, but I’m positive if you removed his persona from the physical attributes, he’d be crushed on by so many women. If he walked into a bar, he would likely have his choice of who he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:08 PM
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I'm not one for open relationships but I wouldn't automatically disqualify a woman if she had been in one previously, I'd like to know some of the details personally like was it a one time thing or did you try it and didn't work, are you actually poly, etc. It would be a dealbreaker if someone I was dating hit me with a request to open the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:58 AM
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She and people supporting her are contributing to the obesity epidemic under the guise of "body positivity" This is my issue with people like Lizzo and her very biased supporters. It is 100% absolutely fine to be proud of your body, your sense of self, etc. Fat shaming is not ok. HOWEVER, she is scientifically at risk for poor health and that should not be ignored in lieu of "body positivity"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:52 PM
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If she agrees to a date to begin with, and doesn't bail within the first few minutes, you are physically attractive enough. To go from attractive to sexy, you have to escalate. However, overly friendly vibes can ruin the date aspect pretty quickly. Like you said, you have to escalate within reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:32 PM
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Because it's a limited sample size. If you've only went out 10-15 times in 12 years, that's nothing in a grand scheme of things. I'm also 33, I go out probably 10-15 times in a three month timespan. I couldn't care less your age or anything to that point. I agree that most women do go there to hang with lady friends and dress up a little but what I'm saying is there's a sizable portion that go there knowing if they flirt a little, they're getting free drinks and ultimately while it's wrong behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:14 PM
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That is the problem with society is that it's becoming more alienated. I would argue this slightly. It's becoming more clique-ish and insular.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:56 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:51 PM
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Just because a chick goes to a club doesn’t mean men are buying her drinks lol. I’ve never had a dude buy me a drink in a club and I’ve probably gone out at least 10-15 times since I was 21. Out of curiosity, how old are you now? 10-15 times since you were 21 means little to nothing if you’re 30 now imo. A lot of women can go to a bar with little to no spending money, hit on guys for free drinks all night and guys desperate to get laid will pony up. It’s everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:18 PM
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I go out to bars alone semi often. My significant other doesn’t like the nightlife scene and it’s a good way for me to get out of the house and have some alone time, she doesn’t mind unless we had prior plans obviously. It’s all about trust and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:16 PM
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OP should redo this experiment in Japan/China/etc and see what his results are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:14 PM
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What's fascinating in my case. I'm far more in shape, attractive, and comfortable with myself in my early 30s than I was in my 20s at any point. I slept around because I was in many social circles where I had the privilege of knowing the right people to meet the women in the first place. I've been in a LTR for a few years now but I'm pretty confident if I became single next week for example, I'd have no issue meeting someone although I'm not gonna lie, I'd stay single for a while and see if I st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:56 PM
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nowhere is there a statistic that says the average person is currently in a relationship at the moment. Also there’s no scientific standard obviously for what an “average man” is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:43 AM
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It means that your league are obese women. Date them. How do you figure? Because they all like him, that’s what his ceiling per se is? That’s not how that works. We’d have to see everyone who liked him to make that assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:30 AM
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If they matched with you and are in the process of having a conversation with you, something in your profile interested them enough. Now it's the onus is on you to hook them into a longer, deeper conversation and then turn that deep convo into a date night. I don’t know why people are arguing with you on this. You’re mostly right. Most of the times, guys with bad social skills talk themselves out of “the running” so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:29 AM
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People on this sub can’t even accept the existence of “Chads” or hypergamy lmao Because it doesn’t exist in the extreme manner some people on this sub insist it does. There’s guys who are good with women, however they’re not stashing all of them on a rotation purposefully keeping them away from other guys while making zero effort. A good looking guy can still fuck it all up if he’s socially awkward. The guys in my social circle who are great with women still had falling outs with ex’es, they sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:22 AM
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women won't break in your house to date you What's funny about this statement is I know several women who complain about not finding a good guy but don't often go out to do anything social outside of each other's houses and keep swiping away on their apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:14 AM
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I was explaining to this dipshit on here today that the difference between 6' and 6'3" is VERY FUCKING SIGNIFICANT. 6 to 6'3 is more of a difference than 5'8 to 5'10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:13 AM
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Most likely mental health issues that have gone on unaddressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:14 AM
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I think it's a strictly American thing. I'm sure it happens in other places but women who are casually dating in the US have weird fixation on height for some reason but it's also some weird arbitrary thing. If a guy who's 5'9 put on some height increasing shoes and came out to right under 6', once she hangs with him a few times and if she's interested, she'll probably never notice it again once he stops wearing the shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:13 AM
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2 is really the ultimate key followed by 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:17 PM
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Behold the magic of steroids. The media sells it to you as “hard work” and “diet” lol. Same with 95+% of instagram/YouTube "influencers, models, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:31 PM
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If you had said enthusiastic 5+, I'm in, but I can't do a 3, especially if the alternative is a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:29 PM
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Usually it's mutual friends or acquaintances who introduce you to each other, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:47 PM
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What’s a high body count in this context? Am I just some kind of unicorn or something? I’m always on PPD and my count is in the 30s, probably above most, it’d probably go up if I was single but I’ve been in a LTR for 4 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:44 PM
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Making ridiculous arbitrary rules like this is how you scare away women before you even get the chance to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:16 AM
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I would agree on the mental health professional part. It sounds more like depression than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:26 AM
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Be my friend Kevin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:35 PM
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You’re only giving data from one small subset and just men. You’re leaving out a lot of demographics so this post doesn’t hold up all that well. People in this newest generation are growing up increasingly socially awkward, likely due to way more screen time, less physical interaction with people in general, and a little sheltering. As someone who still goes out and drinks socially, there’s still a hookup culture per se but it’s only for a select few.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:48 AM
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The best relationships were from women who wanted to jump my bones half way through the first date but held back a little As brash as this sounds, there's truth to this. All of my serious relationships (three) including my current LTR had this happen. A woman will "break her rules" so to speak for a guy she likes. 2 of the 3 said "I don't normally do this" etc. More times than not, I've observed that if she holds you strictly to a "x amount of dates" rule, she's not that into you. Exceptions obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:48 PM
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This is loosely based anecdotal evidence but I’m watching the real world as it unfolds in front of me. Is it a small sample size? Sure, but I’m sure it’s playing out in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:45 AM
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I’m fully confident in saying most of the single “average” men are not getting laid in any regular capacity. I go out to the bar regularly and based on people watching, most of the successful men already came with a date, etc. Most women are in groups and shut down almost any single guy who approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:49 PM
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He finds my past hot and explicitly tells me so I mean I’d be mostly indifferent to my partners sexual past but to find it hot just tells me he’s the type of guy who probably would like watching his significant other sleep with others which is fine but definitely not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:26 PM
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I think a lot of men pretend to be serious about an LTR only to ghost women when they find a better sex partner. I think a lot of people in general think they want a LTR but when it gets down to it, they're not actually "ready" for various reasons so it unintentionally or maybe in some scenarios intentionally becomes a casual encounter, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:53 AM
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My LTR is almost what most here would consider number 1 right now. Good relationship, most would probably consider average looking, good welcoming gf energy, hit or miss about the gym or healthy eating, tends to procrastinate about housework, etc. I'd still take that any day over someone who basically doesn't want to be around me and hence someone I couldn't trust in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 05:57 PM
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You act like a man and don't give a fuck about how other people think you should live your life Ding ding ding. You literally act indifferent to your height since you can't control it anyway. My best friend is 5'6 and arguably is the most successful of all my friends with women despite being the shortest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:15 AM
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What about the inverse, is it a turnoff if a woman has never had a boyfriend and she's in her late 20s to early 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:13 PM
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In some ways, you kinda answered your own question. It's commonly accepted that a man seeking a relationship/fwb/casual sex with significantly younger woman is problematic This word 'significantly' is the difference. Age gaps aren't super uncommon and nobody really even bats an eye unless there's questions about the extent/origin/etc of the relationship, etc. Like if you see a woman who's 19 dating a 30 year old but she says they've known each other for years, that's a red flag. Now to your actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 04:09 PM
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I actually enjoy the back and forth discussions here, some threads are laughable, borderline trolling, but I feel like most discourse is at least genuine and it does entertain. I also personally think a good amount of the opinions here are rooted in some type of reality but people aren't afraid to let them fly here unlike in face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:58 PM
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what men say in their dating profiles Too many people, men or women's OLD profiles are incredibly bland and lack any substance. My pet peeve in terms of OLD is "just ask", it's like no, you're supposed to be trying to "sell" yourself per se to potential suitors, you just don't want to feel bothered to talk about yourself and you're probably not at good at conversation as you think you are. The difference here is, most women will only hookup with a minority of men, while most men will hookup with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:10 AM
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I'd say the woman in Couple 2 and 3 are slightly above average and the guys are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:01 PM
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Women who generally go around saying "all men are trash", etc are usually the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:29 AM
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Yeah I’d say 48 hours max
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:19 PM
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I didn't mean to imply he would only choose sexbots, he'd definitely do both unless the sexbots were so advanced, you couldn't tell the difference anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:37 PM
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I’m sure women will be absolutely infuriated that guys who prefer sexbots will remove themselves from the dating pool These men aren’t typically in the dating pool to begin with. They are undesirable anyways. Let's not act like only men not in the dating pool would take advantage of something like this, especially if the tech got as advanced as the drawing shows. You're telling me the stereotypical Chad wouldn't enjoy build a bearing all sorts of sexbots? Again, if the tech is as advanced as sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:07 PM
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Guy 2nd from the right is definitely picking up women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:01 PM
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Look at the gender demographics of cities to see the worst dating markets (and the best) Can you link these?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:50 AM
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That's just like, your opinion, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:42 AM
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Who knew Top G meant Greta all along
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:56 PM
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Until men figure out their own self worth and learn the true healthy meaning of "self improvement", they'll keep shoveling money, attention, and time into jackasses like Tate because he tells them what they want to hear and promises them a way to the things they want, aka women, status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:23 AM
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Men are not self-aware on how badly they treat women. This shouldn't be a tit for tat. Both men and women treat the other like shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:36 PM
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one reason men don’t try to emulate the first group of men is because their attractiveness mainly comes from their status This is a huge part of it. Most guys if they just looked skinny like that would only appeal to a very small niche group of women. As a male, I rather have almost any other body type than that because it doesn't even look healthy. Status and perceived wealth play a big part here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:31 PM
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great LTR material for the women who want someone for the sole purpose of knowing they won't cheat on them. I assure you, the grand majority of women are not picking men based on purely whether they'll cheat or not. If you're dating someone, they have physical or mental qualities you like, you're not picking people based on a single 'what if'; Do you even believe the nonsense you're spewing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:19 PM
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They’ve over inflated women’s egos to the point You could have left it there and I wouldn't have argued too much. where fat single moms are picky and demanding when they should be happy they’re getting any male attention at all. This is unnecessary and derails your point. Single moms should be picky when there's a child in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:12 PM
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but most men in general never get any or relationships in general Can you cite that? It's harder for men than it used to be, but "most", highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:10 PM
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If I was back on the dating market today, ideally, I'd look for a woman in her mid to late 20s because I know a lot of women want kids and I'm in no rush. I know the biological clock is a thing that women view as important but women are able to have kids later and later in life with no issues, I'm not going to rush a life altering decision for anyone. If my current LTR of 4 years (she's 30, I'm 32) hit me tomorrow with some ultimatum of "we need to have kids in the next year", I'm going to respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:06 PM
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The only thing in this thread that's valid is there should be a body positivity movement for men just the same way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:48 PM
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Before OLD and maybe even social media for that matter, an average guy may have a chance cold approaching at a bar, but now that women have endless options at their fingertips if they want, that average guy has no shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:23 AM
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That said, I don't believe this story. What would be the point of making all that up? Sympathy from reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:22 PM
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e-Commerce, despite it's growing monopoly on shopping at least has some net benefits for most. OLD has made dating harder for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:05 PM
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Be attractive Don’t be unattractive Follow these two simple rules and nothing else really matters. You also need Don't be socially awkward. It doesn't matter how attractive you are, if a woman comes up to you and you ask her to fuck immediately or some other extremely off-putting comment, guess what, you're not getting anything other than probably a drink thrown in your face and maybe getting kicked out of the venue you're at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:03 PM
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expected No it isn't. I guarantee you plenty of people go to the bar and don't expect nor want an approach
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:50 PM
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"a venue in which interactions with strangers is not expected to occur" You already know / expect you will be interacting / getting flirted with at a bar. Going to a bar, etc doesn't immediately imply you're open/expecting/wanting to being approached. This is loosely akin to saying if someone is wearing revealing clothes, they must want male attention. A cold approach is approaching someone you don't know with intention of getting to know them on a level more than friends, period. Are you saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:48 PM
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Gladly a 30 year old who looks 20, the maturity range between a 20 year old and 30 year old is massive, let alone experience with life, sexual stuff, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:56 PM
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Small town or big city?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:50 PM
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Yes they should obviously calm down but there's de-escalation techniques to use instead of just simply ignoring the reason of the anger, disregarding it, and then just essentially talking down to them. My significant other is a school counselor for young kids, mostly troubled ones, you think she's just telling them to calm down and that's the end of it? She'll tell them that in addition to other methods and then get to the root of the issue. So for this thread's purpose, just telling them to "ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:49 PM
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She absolutely will, subtly or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:38 PM
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Unfortunately most therapists, when it comes to social anxiety they’ll kinda be like “just do it”. And that isn’t really helping. This is a miserably bad therapist. This is akin to telling an enraged person to just "calm down"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:19 PM
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Yeah that's a fuckin lie. He/she should have said, the anxiety will lessen, not go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:19 PM
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a bit socially awkward when it came to flirting with women so it was probably just an issue with our group. This Is exactly what it likely was. The OP's claim is one of the few true statements that come across here imo. You can be attractive, fun, etc but when the time comes, if you can't properly escalate for whatever the reason, nothing will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:16 PM
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That's why women are usually the ones to initiate, right? Come off it Immature or entitled women won't initiate, more emotionally mature women definitely will if they're interested. If they're interested and you're attractive, they're not going to just let you sit there and go meet another woman, especially if they figure out you have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:58 PM
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The post should just read modern human history. I don't think anyone is going to argue dating during the black plague is better than today, similar to cave man days, etc. You could maybe argue dating today is the worse it's been in the past 50? years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:51 PM
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That’s part of the issue at hand. “Dad bod” isn’t well defined whatsoever. What women seem to be referring to as a dad bod is just some guy who still clearly works out, still above average fitness, but likes to eat food and drink. This is unofficially confirmed from the fact it seems half the time a picture of a dad bod is posted in threads like this, it's usually a celebrity, etc who looks like he's off a cycle of test or something else anabolic but you know he's still in shape mostly. I'm conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:56 PM
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vilification of masculinity. There's nothing wrong with masculinity, but the problem is, toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:35 AM
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I lost a decent amount of weight about 7 years back and the attention I got from women including women who had previously rejected me were night and day. The gym won't be the single deciding factor but it will put you above others who do not take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:29 AM
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Nope, I'm a guy and this is my personal perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:24 PM
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people have instead become in-person anti-social, because they'd rather consume streaming services, social media, videogames, etc. than interact with in-person strangers. Despite there being some truth to the women being more aware idea posted elsewhere in the thread, I think the quoted reason is the more likely reason overall. Why go to the bar and possibly have random dudes creep on you half the night or just any unwanted social interaction in general when you could just watch a movie and drin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:06 AM
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Misogynistic edgelords like to be edgy and misogynistic to random women on the internet. To the surprise of absolutely no one. To people like that, they would never say it in person, much like the well known keyboard warrior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:03 AM
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most convos are low-quality. That’s because for half the people, every opening is “hey” and every reply is a one word reply. It’s ridiculously boring and most women just expect to the guy to work for everything without contributing. It's the same shit as when a OLD bio just says "just ask", it means you have a boring personality and are much lower value than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 11:08 PM
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This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:24 PM
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Elizabeth Hurley in the 90s was something else though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:17 PM
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Post Malone and MGK, I will never understand how any woman find them attractive except the obvious fact they’re famous and rich. If PM wasn’t known and approached you at a bar, most women would absolutely not entertain him. MGK is literally just a tall skinny guy with a “bad boy” look. Most guys on this subreddit could probably break him in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:16 PM
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I was a mess physically and mentally in my 20s up until four or five years ago. I’m 32 now and undoubtedly in my prime physically and mentally. I’m a guy though so this may not be too unusual. If I was out dating today, I would have a much better time in my opinion because I know what I would want and what my expectations are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:28 PM
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Hot people with standards and emotional intelligence are busy not reading Reddit Speak for yourself lol. I like reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:45 AM
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In dating, nobody should be hiding their intentions, I don’t understand why this is even a thread. If you really don’t know, you say that. If you want sex, say it, if you want serious, say it. How anybody goes into the dating world without being honest with their intentions being known is just opening the door to drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:40 AM
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I certainly value my time way more than a free dinner I guess Makes you better than most. There's a growing subsection of women who literally just go on dates just for free meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:19 AM
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demonizing men Could have left it at this. Feminism at its core is absolutely correct but yes as you've said, whatever the "movement" has become in the past decade or so is completely wrong and I'm not even sure why at this point. The amount of hatred towards men has become an issue in this society and unfortunately it doesn't seem anywhere close to being over. The fact of the matter is, there's a growing and non-insignificant number of women who legitimately think all men are toxic, dangerous, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:50 PM
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With young girls it’s “you’re cute I’m cute let’s go on a date and see if we can connect and have fun together” With older girls it’s “what do you do? Where do you live? Can you take me to an expensive restaurant? I want this kind of wedding” I'll give you this one although the "what do you do", etc is becoming extremely common place right down to the right out of college women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:18 AM
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Girls around my age and above are often too masculine and jaded. They want to get married yesterday and view me as a series of stats. It’s very unattractive compared to the more wholesome approach younger girls take Can you clarify this entire statement? I'm 32 and I assume you're around my age but I'm not seeing this point of view you're having, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:00 AM
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Speaking as a man who is looking for a long term commitment I wouldn’t go for girls around 30 or above You're severely limiting yourself if you're not aware. I would think many women under 30, we'll say 28 for benefit of the doubt aren't looking for serious commitments for various reasons, and if they are, nowadays they tend to be inexperienced in what it takes to maintain one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:47 AM
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The woman he cheated with was also more attractive and younger than his wife. Status and money will take you places in the world, most people know that by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:38 PM
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This thread is a key example of why so many people are single. Some of these reasons are blatantly obvious, most are perfectly acceptable, and yes I’m aware these are all “personal preferences” per se; Some are ridiculously picky and start crossing over into just being rude for no reason. For example in this thread, being a vegetarian? That’s not a red flag. That’s a preference, that’s on you, fine. No friends of x and y gender? What does that matter, so you’re judging someone because they’re no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:22 PM
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Have inside jokes This is so huge because they'll come up all the time and its little things like this that will remind you about how good your relationship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:42 AM
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Men are generally more aroused by physical aspects and then sort out the mental aspect later and women are generally more aroused by mental aspects and then appreciate the physical aspect later. There was obvious exceptions to this rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:38 PM
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most guys would rather play it safe than get called creeps or slapped with a sexual harassment accusation. I've never had an issue with boundaries and respect to women but unfortunately there's been far too many stories about violence against women for x or y reasons which are obviously not valid. If a woman is interested in me, I want no shadow of a doubt they're interested before I make any kind of move. I can pick up social cues fairly easily but looking at me for 0.5 seconds and making eye c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:34 PM
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Who is "your guys"? I never said a city had to have a population of being one million plus. You're putting words in my mouth. What exactly are you trying to even dispute or prove here? On your link, some of those cities around 150k are known and others are cities many haven't probably even heard of. 150k population is typically a smaller-ish city, again, what are you trying to argue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:51 AM
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Living with your mom at age 23 is definitely not a red flag In today's world, I know people in their 30s who lived on their own for many years and financial hardships hit them and they had to move back home for the time being but they do help out with the bills. It happened to me as well for a six month stint a few years ago. I was laid off and had to burn my savings to live normally. Housing is outrageously expensive nowadays. You almost have to have roommates with no exceptions to make it work…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:01 AM
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150,000 This is a small city number or very large suburb depending on where you want to draw the line. You're really arguing semantics and people's preferences at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:58 AM
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Where are all these fabled 3/10 men dating very attractive women It rarely happens. I've only seen this seldom and I don't know the situation that brought them together but more power to them; If they're happy, I'm happy. If this was a 5/10 guy for example, I'd say it happens more often than people think but 3/10? much more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:57 AM
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“Just ask” means I want to make no effort in talking about myself or entertaining you which would lead me to believe this person isn’t capable of having any kind of intellectual or intelligent conversation and/or they think their looks should be the only deciding factor in the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:23 PM
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Get chemically castrated if it upsets you that much, nobody else cares This isn’t necessary at all. Even if OP is complaining and just airing his personal “grievances”, it’s still his opinion to have wrong or right. Is it a rant blog? Basically, but wouldn’t it be better to actually attempt to change his view rather than just go after him because you for some reason is bothered by his post. If he doesn’t listen, his loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:19 PM
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thinking too much with their dicks I tend to think this is the culprit more than quote on quote “predatory” behavior. I’m sure there’s some who are being predatory but I imagine for most men, its definitely sex inspired, thinking with the wrong head, and going after the forbidden fruit per se
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:14 PM
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I truly don’t understands cuckholding. I don’t kink shame but I can’t see a scenario where I’d get off on watching my significant other get railed and I’m just in a corner watching like a movie. An open relationship on both sides is one thing but cucking is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:53 AM
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Being short is only a dealbreaker if you have no charisma or conventional attractiveness or if you’re truly short, like below 5’4. My best friend is 5’6 and he’s slept with and dated some beautiful women; While I’m aware it’s anecdotal, it’s not the huge deal most make it out to be. Hell, I’m 5’8 and I’ve never had issues either outside of a select one or two but I’m likely a slight tick above average and in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:44 AM
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group chats where guys share intimate photos of their girlfriends. This has to be an exception to the rule. This is highly frowned upon and I don’t know any groups where this would fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:19 AM
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You do realize how bad the financial situation is for many in the US right? It’s not even close to realistic to just throw up a blanket statement and just tell guys who may be struggling with women to just go overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:30 AM
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No. I decide that. Me. I decide. You decide what YOU think is a healthy relationship, while the rest of will decide what WE think is a healthy one. Free will is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:54 PM
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CDC: 41.7% of Americans are obese Reddit: Losing weight is easy! This isn’t the got ‘‘em you think it is. Losing weight isn’t insanely difficult when committed, etc. The biggest issue in the US is unhealthy food being so easily accessible (mostly high sugar and caloric foods) the working population being worked into the ground, and motivation issues because of said overworking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:52 PM
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less whispering to each other at bars like "haaa haaa look at that guy over there what a creep!" This does happen a decent amount, maybe not in large numbers but happens enough to not be a rarity, I’ve witnessed it time and time again when hanging out with a group including females.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:12 PM
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giving you attention makes you horny, even indirectly I’ve agreed with you on a few posts in your thread but I don’t quite get this one. How do you indirectly get someone horny? That doesn’t happen on accident I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:51 AM
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I mean if she comes home wanting to have sex immediately after hanging out with a male friend that would be a huge red flag Is this really a controversial take? No way right? If someone at the bar or club is in the position to get you that sexually aroused that you immediately leave to go home and “take it out” so to speak on your significant other; While yes it’s respectable to exit stage left, you’re still putting yourself in a questionable situation and I would question the relationship betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:49 AM
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Some people like to see how many people that they can "pull" for an ego boost Being a guy, this has been me before too even while in a LTR. I have zero intention of sleeping with them, perusing them in any way, etc. I like the ego boost, I can’t explain it. I could have easily followed through if I wanted most likely, I chose not to. I’m not saying it’s good behavior but I’m just being honest for the sake of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 12:40 AM
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men cheat out of insecurity Everyone has insecurities of some sort and most people deep down in their core know and are brutally self aware if they’re “attractive” by societal standards whether they want to admit it or not. More attractive people are more likely to cheat because again, of their self awareness know they have options. That unattractive guy knows he has a unicorn by his standards, he’s going to fight like hell to keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:02 PM
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Thinking the gym changes things is a red pill cope because you can't do anything else To say the gym is the ultimate solution to all issues would be false, however, to say it changes nothing is dishonest and flat out untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:44 PM
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can be safe from that by going for ugly fat blokes. In practice, if a guy considered stereotypically unattractive gets a super attractive woman, he’s going to do everything in his power to keep her since odds are, he’s not going to have repeat success. It’s a similar train of thought to the “hot people get away with more in relationships” idea that floats around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:43 PM
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"It's a pickup community" nah its a community ran by a bunch of dudes that hate women but want to fuck them still Says who? I think there’s a distinct difference between “the pickup community” and the toxic part of TRP who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:43 PM
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Yes unattractive guys can become hot in our eyes if we get to know them and develop feelings If the woman gives him the chance first, that’s the hard part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:43 AM
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Below 5’8 is when men might start having “height issues” in terms of selection, but even then, if you’re attractive and/or confident, you can be successful. This thread isn’t anything really ground breaking imo, show genuine interest is a given if you’re actually into them, otherwise women can tell if you’re full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:55 AM
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rape = any encounter that was unpleasant or regretted at a later date The problem is, this scenario isn’t likely common but it does happen. Anyone who falsely claims rape should be charged just as badly as someone who actually rapes someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:45 AM
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Those 4 or 5 dates could have taken 3 months to accomplish. This isn't normal at all. I've done 3 dates within 2 weeks and I'm sure many others have as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:41 AM
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It's unfortunately clear the woman in question found the people in the threesome more attractive than the guy she was seeing, etc. It's not even a knock on women in general, it shouldn't be. The guy in question in the OP should just move on, he's not her priority like she is to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:40 PM
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A lot of this probably stems from social media and those “IG influencers”. It’s unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:26 PM
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gym culture. May I ask what gym culture is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:19 PM
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Post Malone for example. If he was out on the street and a nobody, he’d be below average and would creep many out; However, since he’s a famous rapper, women fall all over themselves for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:18 PM
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truerateme You can’t use truerateme for anything, that subreddit literally rates beautiful women as 5s and 6s, that is an inc3l place if I’ve ever see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:55 PM
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Maybe in America the presence of less fat makes these women seem more remarkable than they are. This is probably a part of it. Americans are probably so desensitized to overweight people in general that they view just average weighted people as “more attractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:52 PM
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Rihanna is attractive but overrated, there’s plenty people I see at a bar on a Saturday night who I personally find more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:46 PM
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In some male circles it’s straight up simp behavior to do boyfriendy things with a woman you haven’t slept with This is true in most male circles that I've witnessed personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 06:07 AM
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Only a small percent of men look genuinely good in their later ages, and they typically looked good in their 20s and teens too so… Anecotal but I'm one of these. I look significantly better in my 30s than I did my 20s, although a good part of that is better haircut and better physical shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:05 AM
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it's better to pick an average looking woman who is fun and can fuck really well, than a hot woman who has no good conversation and lies there like a bored starfish Every “hot” woman I’ve ever slept with was a bad lay. Every average to above average were great. Also, the average women perform the best oral. There’s always exceptions obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:44 AM
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The vast majority of men definitely want to hook up with a hot 20 year old. It isn’t black and white. Would I in a vacuum with no other intangibles at play? Sure. But in the real world, likely much more immature, less likely to have similarities, pregnancy risk with a likely less established partner, less experienced in sex potentially, etc. I rather sleep with a cute 30 year old woman than a hot 20 year old one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:00 AM
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If you’re ugly at 20 you’re going to be ugly the rest of your life Depends on what’s causing your “ugly”. In my case, it was bad haircuts, not being in shape, and acne. Fast forward to me being 32, I’m in my prime and if I was single, I doubt I’d have issues finding women if I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:56 AM
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I’m actually shocked at the amount of filtering for 6’5 and above, that is unusually tall and not even just above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:14 PM
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Gen Z’s problem is they’ve grown up in a social media driven world that isn’t reality. Everything is about reassurance, swipes and likes, online cred, etc. The men who are 25ish and under are brutally socially awkward, potentially addicted to porn, and just have not learned social skills like the generations before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:27 AM
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Unattractive women kind of have it worse if we're factoring in the workplace. That trade off per se, not that it's right, is unattractive women usually can still end up dating somebody or at least can find a support system, unattractive men usually don't get that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:09 AM
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I'm in a LTR, I'm not worried about it. I'm also above average as far as I'm concerned. But when so many people say "get more attractive" yet so many people value height so much, it's annoying, I feel for those people. I'm average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:16 AM
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become more attractive. Yes, it’s in your control to a large degree. Right up until the part where you get judged for your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:07 AM
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I don't ask either, but I don't really think most men really care as long if the woman is attractive to them. On the flip side, any serious LTR I've ever been in, I've been asked within the first few months of dating, etc. it's always come up somehow. I've always been more than the woman I've dated including my LTR currently. n-count is 33.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:30 AM
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OP unfortunately has been clearly hurt and/or rejected in some of his advances and has jumped to a conclusion that "explains" his recent events relative to his narrative. People, men or women, at any time can be flaky if something is "off", they don't have to justify that reasoning especially if it's a safety issue of some kind. People are also picky, they want the best they can get, this is kinda just human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:03 PM
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Men could have an infinite support system of female friends And a lot do have that system, don't shoehorn men into a hole because one guy chooses to do something he feels is better for his mental health/happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:50 PM
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If anybody goes out of their way and tells you, “I don’t normally do this” or “I’m not like the others”. Chances are, they do this all the time and they’re exactly like the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:30 PM
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many said it was the thrill of violating a woman that was their drive to do it Yeah you need to find this study. A lot of men are socially awkward and absolutely how no idea on how to talk to women but I have a hard time believing most men are sending unsolicited dictures just to “violate women”, so many young men are socially awkward and desensitized by porn, they legit probably think showing their dicks is enough to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:29 PM
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The men on here claim they want a modest women… but will only approach the women with the smallest item of clothing on. Although it would seem a lot of people have no clue what modest means, I also imagine it’s subjective for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:26 PM
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If you’re a guy who’s a 4, just below average, your match would be a woman who’s a 1 How are you figuring this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:24 PM
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FDS is as toxic as TRP is, if one is quarantined, they both should.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:52 AM
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This strikes me as whataboutism like when people who don’t care about the struggles of black people or Asian people say: “but BLM ignores Asian people!!” These aren’t the same things at all. BLM is exclusively a movement to protect specifically black people’s lives from racism, unfair treatment, etc. BODY positivity movements should be all encompassing. Last time I checked, it wasn’t the Women’s Body Positivity Movement, also last time I checked, men had bodies too. Using the word "black" in BLM…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:37 PM
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Because even fat women have options, while fat men are invisible or reviled. This is the truth. Fat men often get ignored in the "body positivity" movements, their dating options are much less limited than similarly sized women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:29 PM
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What a long response to just tell me you’re mad I spewed some fact that you clearly took offense to. I had success on OLD, I’m in a LTR, I watch some of friends flame out, some succeed, and my lady friends get constant dates. Women have some blame in the game too but men need to step up and take blame for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:07 PM
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Or contaminated by the all-you-can-eat buffet which is porn? Because I've had a stupid amount of awful, unappealing men try to pick me up and get wildly angry when it didn't go their way. I actually forgot about porn too which is another piece of the "online" puzzle. Like I alluded to, there's no excuse for anyone getting wildly angry when you try to pick someone up and it doesn't go your way. I don't know where that sense of entitlement comes from, I have to think it's a vocal minority kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:09 PM
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learn social skills This is the majority of the problem on men's side of things. Most men under the age of, let's say 25 have grown up in a completely social media driven and online world, glued to screens, trying to date women by simply swiping on them, afraid of rejection and not used to social interaction outside of their private circles or cliques. Look how many guys try to open with women on OLD by just "hey", "hi", "show boobs", etc. This is a growing population of men with absolutely no i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:37 PM
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High status doesn't necessarily mean high income/high earning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:15 AM
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To potential relationship prospects, absolutely. Women are emotional creatures and not in a negative sense. Vulnerability is not a weakness, it shows a real human side of someone. To show your vulnerability is to show trust in the other person to not use it against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:54 PM
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highly doubt anyone actually accidently cheated while drunk ever. So are you the authority on other people's lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:33 PM
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Pete Davidson Take away a few inches of his height and take away his fame, he'd be average at best. He's a prime example of how women view status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:36 AM
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Men don’t like overweight women well we don’t like overweight men either Overweight women will always be more successful than overweight men in the dating scene. Overweight men tend to get completely ignored in the "acceptance" and "body positivity" movements by most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:31 AM
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Yeah it matters because if those women aren't that interested in sex, a bunch of retirees isn't going to magically move that needle. Maybe if a bunch of young attractive men moved out to that area, but I'm pretty sure women aren't going to be flocking to a bunch of 50+ year old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:53 AM
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millennials have been taught that this is assault The issue is, so to speak, so many men don't know how to handle rejection or have any kind of respect for other's boundaries, so they turned to violence, sexual assault, etc. Now that this trend continues, it's damaged the casual sex market for the guys who legit just want casual sex and aren't going to harm women in any way because women are rightfully so more self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:51 AM
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If anything, you'll see birth rates start dropping because the cost of living is just too expensive, childfree is becoming more popular, and then yeah a lot of men will drop out of the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:48 AM
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the East Isn't that part of the world dealing with all sorts of issue of population aging and younger people not having sex because they just don't view it as important?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:40 AM
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By just not being overweight anymore, women gave me more stares, etc. Now having definition, etc. more and more attractive women would give me a time of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:19 PM
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Looks and status essentially go 1 and 2 in order of things women will generally care about at first glance/impression. Having looks is self explanatory. Having status implies people like being around you or you provide something to the environment, scenario, etc that is worth it. Anecdotally, my highest status was when I used to help host some house parties, this was 2014, most of the nightlife scene in the city knew about them and they were known for being a good time, (we would have DJs, beer …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:22 PM
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First of all, this is my own perspective coming from a guy in a LTR and has slept around plenty in my younger days. a lot of y’all were never on her radar to begin with. Rejection was probably far less common before social media when everyone didn’t have infinite options at their disposal. Obviously more than 25% are living their lives but is it the life they want or is it the life they settled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:06 PM
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men who are giving them unearned attention This is a huge part of the issue imo. I won’t use the word “unearned” because who am I to deem that. However, if “desperate” men stopped literally throwing themselves at women like their life depended on it, things would start balancing out again but we’re likely long past the point of rectifying this because young men are growing up addicted to porn and being socially awkward which comes off as creepy to women which then they handle rejection poorly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:01 PM
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Have you guys actually met any women with even a 3-10k social media following? I know three and I knew them before their social media blew up. It absolutely changed them, they became very uppity for the most part and basically act as if their time is more precious than others. They’re all acquaintances at best and I admit my evidence could be flawed since I’m not close to them but from what I can tell, they’re not the same as I knew them prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:59 PM
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If you're skinny/slim-thick after 20, you are not average in the US. This is all subjective. How many people argue here that not being overweight automatically makes you above average, that’s also subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:56 PM
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Social media forever ruined the dating scene, and has also affected how people interact. This society is one big search for validation via whatever tool you use, whether instagram, tinder, etc. Just like it was said, porn ruins realistic interactions for sex for young impressionable men. Social media has turned into this generations’ form of natural selection because only the top 25% of men and women are getting frequent chances to advance the population
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:52 PM
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women don’t need to do anything because they’ll always have an army of simps And this will never change because social media turned society into a full blown validation party all the time. Too many guys are growing up socially awkward and creeping women out, then they simp around and the vicious cycle continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:47 AM
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The truth is, women will just tighten their standards, but the "top tier" guys will continue to operate as normal and women will likely still sleep with them. Besides like it was said, I doubt most women were just like oh whatever I have an abortion to fall back on. The SC decision was a disaster and I'm outraged for women everywhere but nothing will likely change in the grand scheme of dating for the top tier peoples.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:34 AM
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Equality and fat acceptance is not for fat men. Yeah for the most part, big men get ridiculed far more than woman at least in the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:55 AM
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A woman will decide if you're fuckable within seconds of seeing you. This is mostly true. I’ve had female friends vouch for this. If you’re not already in a “friend zone”, etc. Let’s say you approach a woman at a bar, she’s deciding in those first five seconds of meeting you whether she thinks you’re attractive enough for sex or not in a hypothetical situation, if so, conversation proceeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:36 AM
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Yeah they’ll commit to him once they realize in their 30s that “Chad” will never date them and after numerous posts on social media about “where the good guys at”. Desperate men with no social skills is part of the reason why the dating market is so lopsided, I’m not talking about OP either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:26 PM
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"social intelligence" I would think this means common sense, street smarts to an extent, self awareness, manners, etc. Almost a grand mixture of basic human actions that people should probably be keen of. Depending on the person, maybe a little bit of pop culture and current events knowledge too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:20 PM
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You're right but you're making all these comments that you would choose your lady friends over your guy friends, alright fine, but then you say if a guy is using you to meet women, he's not your friend, well no shit. You definitely sound like you've experienced some sort of issue in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:58 PM
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You're moving the goalposts, who said anything about "using you"? Everything you've implied so far tells me you have not done a good job of picking your male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:45 PM
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9 times out if 10, I’d rather have her friendship than yours. It doesn’t even sound like you like your male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:37 PM
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I personally would never date a single mom, not because I hate kids or because I "look down" on the situation. I'm already on the fence about having kids in general, I have no interest in raising what is essentially another man's child and having another guy constantly in the picture and that's all before I possibly want to have my own child with my bloodline. Part of the fun and experience in meeting someone, dating someone, etc is getting to spend time with each other, go out, explore, etc. Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:26 AM
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Everyone wants to be able to brag about their partner It’s almost human nature. We want to be validated, confirmed, and applauded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:51 PM
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Yellow light would be literally what yellow light generally means for most. “Proceed with caution/slow down”. You could have to hit your brakes to stop short if you don’t feel like the risk is worth it or hit the gas to beat the light because you’re ready to proceed. In this case, if they stop, a red flag appeared, if they go, they found out what they wanted to know and it was good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:49 PM
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Sex in fact fixes most other things in a relationship. Sex can cover up SOME issues in a relationship but will never resolve them fully and doesn’t last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:45 PM
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not in particularly good shape I never understood this by anyone's standards, men or women. To see anybody who doesn't actively stay in shape themselves, etc demand someone who is fit and in shape, the ultimate irony. I've known men and women who if anything, do a few walks a week, drink multiple beers or bottles of wine during the week, super average bodies or worse, then demand their potential whatever is in shape, etc. It's silly really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:14 PM
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Yeah the US for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:03 AM
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“In shape” isn’t sufficient for average If you take speculation here seriously, being “in shape” or not overweight automatically puts you in the upper third.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:22 PM
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There will be no lonely cat ladies unless they choose to be single. This isn’t fully true. Some women like some men just aren’t good partners, etc. They have “issues” that haven’t been addressed and it destroys their potential relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:21 PM
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I don't know how such simplicity gets lost in translation along the way. Looks is the first and foremost the main threshold to "getting laid". If you don't have looks, you're not getting past the first checkpoint. If you're above average in looks, you start out ahead of the game, you can then knock points off your "total" by acting like an asshole, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:20 PM
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Anecdotal I know but most of my bi friends also end up preferring men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:03 AM
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Cold approaches are most commonly referred to as creepy and desperate This is an underrated point. Unless you’re above average, etc. women just do not want you in their bubbles, especially if they’re in group. I’ve had my own lady friends tell me this, they don’t want guys approaching them at the bar but there’s always an “unless” after.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:53 PM
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If you're overly outdoorsy like into hunting, etc, overly confrontational/rude to servers, people working, etc, have kids, if you're not into fitness/gym/healthy lifestyle in some capacity; These are all red flags or just no-gos to me in various ways. Also, I'm a marxist so most people will not play well with me politically/ideology wise, if you're not at least somewhat in my political sphere, it'll never work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:47 PM
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Anyone who says more attractive people don’t get away with more of a negative behavior are in denial. This is why the whole “girls like bad boys” trope exists. If a truly average male had narcissistic traits, he would be put in his place much faster than a “high value” male as people would call him here. The same goes for women. Guys will put up with far more negative behaviors if he’s dating a 9/10 compared to if she’s a 5/10. That isn’t a knock on either male/female, that’s the general consens…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:49 PM
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Where does the “validation selfie” line start and end? If my girlfriend posted a picture of her at the pool in a bathing suit having a drink on vacation, is that validation? If I post a gym selfie because I’m proud of progress I’ve made, is that more or less validating than a lady’s gym selfie? I agree with you to a point but isn’t that line probably subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:33 PM
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I don’t see how you equate women with what you’re essentially calling revenge and feminism? Do I agree that some women have turned feminism into misandry or potentially your revenge scenario, absolutely but that’s a loud vocal minority. Not to be disrespectful but this post reeks of “pick me pick me” or potentially misogyny. Of course men and women both are going to want the best they can get, likely not many are “dating down”. I have a very hard time believing most women resent most men. Also c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:53 PM
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I know more and more ladies who prefer men a decade or more older than them but it just seems too anecdotal, I can't imagine it's even close to a high percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:43 AM
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"As a surgeon I beg to differ." I think as adults, people can analyze a situation and know the difference between that person is legit busy and "not interested that much" If I'm talking to someone and she tells me she's a surgeon, I'm going to already know going into this situation that she will constantly be unable to answer promptly. Mixed signals usually mean no in some capacity. It goes for both men and women, if someone is interested, they'll make it clear, if you have to question it, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:36 AM
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puts effort into his appearance I will say, the costs of things in this country are outrageous. I would love to dress fancier but the currency goes further there. I do diet/exercise consistently though. But I'm not the average American man according to statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:25 PM
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I mean as humans, we're pretty wired to like sex and the act of it, guys and ladies. As you grow older, it's easier to contain those urges and weigh pros/cons, at least it is for me. An understated thing though is, I think a lot of men want to just not be lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:34 PM
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Yeah this woman is not truly into this guy and he’s either taking advantage of him or trying to convince herself she’s into him. Either way, it’s toxic and he should leave
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:04 PM
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Sounds like subconsciously you’re fearing rejection, at least more than you used to. Since you’ve admitted here you take rejection hard, that is probably projecting outwards whether you realize it or not. You’re overthinking. I’d just relax and vibe out.
/r/seduction28/05/22 06:51 PM
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I bet a lot of mass shooters are very lonely, and have not had good experience with the opposite sex. This is usually always the case I’m pretty sure. They usually do have themselves to blame for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:38 PM
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The debating is fun and I do like seeing other people's points of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 07:08 AM
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women get more engagement than men This is the only point that matters. Race, etc means nothing in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:24 PM
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If a woman is making you wait for sex while having it with other guys, she's not that attracted to you. This is a lesson that many men need to learn. As a guy who women have called "above average", there's been at least several women I can remember including my current LTR and my most recent ex who "doesn't normally do this" but we slept together on first date or the 2nd. People will sleep with or "break their rules" for those who they deem attractive enough probably 90+% of the time. Also, a FW…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:27 PM
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This is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:49 AM
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Let's put it this way and there's always exceptions. Average to below average men will date anything they can get if it provides regular sex and companionship because a lot of men are far more lonely than they will ever admit. High tier men will only go for high tier women. Average to below average women will only go for above average men, my theory being they don't want to be looked down upon by others for their dating choice, companionship be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:14 PM
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I would venture to say the majority of women don't care enough about the average man enough to care about their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:48 PM
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I think "nice" is often a euphemism for boring It absolutely is. I've never seen a woman refer to a guy she's into as "nice", it's almost any other adjective describing him. The guy in question is probably an actual "nice" guy but he doesn't excite her enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:35 AM
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I think a lot of men want women to sympathize with them because most women don’t understand how bad it is for most men, even if a lot of it is the male’s fault themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:42 PM
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The best way to get women is to do nothing. When I was single, the minute I stopped trying to get laid when going out and focused on just having fun, everything started happening organically. Women can sense dudes who are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:16 PM
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Attraction can and does develop over time The key word is develop. Initial attraction still requires looks or something that’s putting you above competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:04 PM
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Loki is far more popular as a sex idol then Thor, I have a very hard time believing this. People think Loki is attractive, etc but I always see women lose their shot over Thor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:37 AM
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The typical lifestyle of adults, at least in America is a health nightmare. It's also in the interest of the 'for profit' health industry and countless corporations to keep people out of shape because it keeps the money flowing in. Eating healthy is probably 75% of the battle and it's the part most of this country screws up the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:50 AM
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This thread would leave you to believe that women pretty much don’t want you approaching them at all. I assume looks plays a big part in how big your leash is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:10 PM
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30+ body counts by 25 There's no way this is true, at least for most women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:27 AM
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If men are attractive enough that women approach them instead, then 80% of their problems are solved right then and there. Right, but that last 20% is the deal breaking part. The "hottest" person in the world can ruin it for themselves if they have absolutely zero social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:20 AM
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High standards are one thing. Absolutely unrealistic ones are another
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:43 PM
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The issue is unrealistic expectations and sky high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:41 PM
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Hell the average neckbeard Virgin guy today would probably be the most attractive man in the village if he was transported to a group of peasants from the middle ages This is moving the goalposts. Trying to translate any physical attractions to people hundreds of years ago is a huge question mark. They'd think he was foreign or possibly a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:47 AM
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Who randomly hides their n count for no reason? If anyone asks, I'll tell them my n count, my LTR knew that mine was much higher than hers when we started dating. No I don't count only foreplay in my number because it's literally not sex. The idea floating in this thread that high n count automatically equals a person who is troubled, dysfunctional, etc is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:42 AM
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I would still have casual sex today just like I did 10 years ago, however, my standards for who I'd be willing to do it with is much "higher" than it was then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:33 PM
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My best friend is 5'6, works out, carries himself well, etc, typically dates and sleeps with beautiful women, 2 of his 3 serious relationships, the lady would be a 7-8/10. I think height tends to be ignored if like OP says, other things are on point, such as confidence, status, etc. He isn't wealthy either, just gets by.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:22 PM
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I guess my point was, while I DO think women have it easier to date in terms of "options", sleep around if they wish, etc. Some guys really make it sound like it'll take an act of congress (good luck) to get laid. I just have a hard time thinking I'm in some top percentile of men based on my n count according to some of what you read here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:32 PM
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In my immediate group of friends, I have the lowest n-count and that's like 33, none of my friends would be considered a "Chad" and some of them are well over 50 n count. There's just something to be said about groups of guys who don't give off a creepy vibe, take care of themselves, and look like fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:39 PM
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But for the vast majority of us in the middle part of the bell curve in looks/wealth/etc, getting steady casual sex takes a hell of a lot of work. Honestly a lot of it is just being in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:30 PM
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Will Smith likely needs some kind of therapy if he's not seeing one already. It's painfully obvious his wife's extra curricular activities or their lifestyle is having a toll on him. It sounds more like she wants that life, he doesn't but isn't willing to break up their marriage for it. We hear countless stories about her, we hear none about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 05:54 PM
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What exactly is this thread about? Male and females both have their own respective dating issues, some overlap, some don't, and both male and females can be hypocrites at times. So thread over?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:30 AM
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Seen so many average women absolutely simp after good looking dirt bags. And these will be or are the same women throwing a fit on social media about "where the good MEN at", etc. while they ignore every halfway decent guy who tries because he isn't some tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:21 PM
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I don't disagree with the idea that sometimes a woman just wants to get off as well. Any guy who's been around enough women should know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:41 AM
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The validation from hook ups comes mostly from appeasing some societal perception of what it means to be a man, I don't find this to be true at all. I don't gauge my self image of being a "man" in line with whether I get validation from females or not. All people, male or female or etc not just like validation, they crave it for the most part. That's why social media is what it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:40 AM
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I don’t want a relationship in general I’ve not wanted a relationship with men I’ve hooked up with So the thread is kinda a moot point to you then. I firmly am in the camp of most guys who have the ability to have casual sex almost whenever would also have the ability to have a relationship whenever as well assuming they wanted it. I also don't quite understand the logic behind "if I wanted to date them, I wouldn't have hooked up with them" This makes zero sense to me. Isn't sex supposed to be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:36 AM
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not valuable to women Not valuable by normal standards but obviously desirable to women enough for hookups, hence why they're fuckboys, if they're not getting laid a bunch, then the definition doesn't fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:13 PM
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I've talked to several women and asked them their opinion on this very idea and they've all said they prefer the muscular men especially if it's just hookups but they do worry about being the "less" attractive one in the pairing. So it would seem in the presence of a muscular man, the "average" woman is self conscious which would explain the idea that some don't like a guy more than athletic because he could be out of her league and have more options than her. It's fascinating really when the sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:08 AM
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I've absolutely been passed up for a promotion for a female who was a few years younger and conventionally attractive but much less qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:24 PM
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I feel like I'm an odd man out on this subreddit sometimes. I'm in a stable LTR, moderately high n-count, and 5'8 in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:34 AM
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I don't and I'm sure many don't. The men who are loudly complaining the most are likely the vocal minority. Reddit is just not a great representation of society as whole. 25% at BEST.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:21 AM
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r/askmen That's not a fair representation of all men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:32 AM
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We're going to end up at a point where so many people are obese, not just overweight that those in shape are truly going to corner the casual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:31 AM
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Social anxiety and awkwardness is rising with younger people and because dating culture is a disaster, naturally sex is going to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:33 PM
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I don't think the "metaverse" takes off, I think whatever replaces it, will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:49 PM
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Imagine being told your whole life you are a worthless unwanted rape machine that only exist in order to cause pain and suffering for everyone I'm a guy too in case it isn't clear. Who is saying this though? That's verbal abuse obviously. Your entire post is a bunch of extreme situations and for you to claim that most men who are socially awkward are suffering mental disorders or various other illnesses, you need to cite that. Men and women both have caused the toxic culture around us today, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:39 PM
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It wasn't the sole reason but it warped everyone's minds for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:35 PM
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The difference is women used to give guys the time of day because they didn't have 10000 guys already lined up on tinder like they do now. I mean, that's a pretty big difference. No one said all men from all generations were smooth operators.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:47 AM
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any man struggling with dating is a loser with no social skills is bullshit. I won't say that's all men but I have to think the society that a lot of younger guys have grown up in has led to some very socially awkward people, not just men and the entire dating pool suffers from it. The amount of dudes (under 25) I've seen at the bar try to pick up women with some of the worst social skills I've ever seen would shock you. You would think you were watching a sitcom or early 2000s nerd flick with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:36 AM
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I'm not pretending to have a catch all solution for them. It's unfortunate but some people just weren't blessed with genetics, good financial situations, etc. The best thing that could happen to the bottom third of men is either prostitution becomes legal here or the AI gf/sex bots become a full blown thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:31 AM
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Men have no standards for who they fuck, this is true. But for commitment? Oh my God. It’s too much. They have this image in their head of who they want to date and it’s usually a 7/8 blonde and busty woman. The woman has to be kind, can never nag or complain. The woman has to work nowadays and bring half the bacon. She’s got to have kids then have the baby and after the baby she had to snap right back into being as thin as before she had the baby. Don’t forget the fluffing his ego, knowing how …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:29 AM
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70K a year. Most people in the US don't make even that, you do know that right? The US isn't exactly paying great wages right now and hasn't for many years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:26 AM
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A lot of men have started a vicious circle on themselves. No social skills, no self improvement desires, desperate, etc. Makes women want the higher tier men even more because they get so turned off by obnoxious behavior making the desperate men even more starved for any kind of attention. Social media really did ruin culture for pretty much anyone under 25 today. People have no sense of reality and are completely addicted to online standards and way of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:24 AM
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I like validation and the self esteem boost more than anything else. I could care less about meeting a female, banging her, etc. just give me dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:26 PM
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The server piped in and said that they could start their own tab or take their broke asses somewhere else The amount of women who I've overheard at a bar who say they're "broke" and just planned on making guys buy them drinks all night is obnoxious. I'm not saying people shouldn't buy drinks for anyone but consider role reversal, women would likely throw a fit. In bar culture, most women literally expect guys to buy them drinks whether interested or not. I've had women come up to me without any …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:59 PM
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If men were complaining about how demoralizing dating apps are for them, the only articles that would be written would of the flavor "angry incel men who think women owe them romance are hating on women and feeding on misogyny, they are dangerous and full of hate, how we must mock them!" The lack of care for the dating scene for men is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:45 PM
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It would seem to me (as a male) both options are correct. B leads to A.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:54 PM
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Like you said, every woman who I see talking, and it's usually complaining about not being able to "find a good man" usually have always picked the worst dudes in terms of either job issues, legal issues, abuse issues, etc. Or some Chad banged her out but wouldn't date her for obvious reasons so now she's bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:19 PM
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Nobody would call any of those dudes hot if they had average jobs That's what gets me about this thread and topics like this. If PD wasn't famous, well known, etc. walked up to a beautiful woman at a bar and tried to pick her up, she'd laugh him off so quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:51 PM
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If it did, wasn't aware of it. I'm not on PPD every day like I used to be, it's slowed down a lot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:13 PM
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It's why she bangs the pool boy while her beta bucks husband busts his ass. That's more of an effect of the beta bucks husband rather than the pool boy's "wealth", he was in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:20 AM
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30 or 40 and even 50. While there is some truth to this, as you get older, it would depend on how well they've kept themselves in shape, etc. There's a lot of 50 year olds from both male and female that have let themselves go big time that nobody likely would spend any significant time chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 02:57 AM
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I mean as far as I know they're not overly successful (like it's their only source of income), now knowing someone on that level might be insanely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:44 PM
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What if you knew them before they started doing OF? I have at least 4-5 acquaintances/friends who either did or currently have one. I'm pretty sure it isn't their full time work since I see their social media posts at a regular work week job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:02 PM
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There is no amount of genetics or pharmacology that can counteract bad diets and alcohol...both are debilitating to the physique and become several degrees more so the moment you reach 25. I know your lazy ass probably doesn't want to hear it but that muscular Chad you're jealous of WORKS for his physique. And that's coming from someone who has better muscle building genetics than 99.999% of the genpop. You more than anyone then should know that genetics can still help offset a bad diet, not com…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:22 PM
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Not that I like saying or thinking it but probably 75%-ish of men need to avoid OLD if they don't want to be emotionally crushed or end up having a vendetta against women. I'm a male who women have called "cute", I don't have a low n count relative to many, I don't have issues socializing with women in my social circle or otherwise, currently in a LTR who I did meet on OLD However, I had a lot of strikeouts before I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:20 PM
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It’s true that you hit a certain point when “you’re too big” and only the most gym crazy women are into that or other women bodybuilders
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 03:20 PM
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I never want to be approached by random men (this includes “Chad”). I'm not saying you personally but I hear this so much but when in reality it usually always means, "I never want to be approached by guys I don't deem attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:55 PM
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I'm in a LTR now and have been for a few years but my gf now is pretty accepting of my hobbies, etc. She's basically like, as long as you don't ignore me completely for gaming, which obviously would be unreasonable on my part if I did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:21 PM
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As long as a majority of men desperately throw themselves at women no matter what faults they have or physical appearance they contain, the dating scene will never balance out for men compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:15 AM
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I never really understood why women can just sit at home and watch netflix all day/do nothing Double standards are a bitch. Tell some women you like to game sometimes and she assumes you're a loser, but meanwhile she's binge watching an entire series and drinking a bottle of wine a couple of nights a week while occasionally posting about how they don't need a man and how independent they are. I work a full time job, work out, etc, if any potential female wants to give me shit about gaming with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:05 AM
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The fact of the matter is, most people in general, are somewhat insecure, about SOMETHING The entire thread could be broken down to this really. If a male or female who is used to being chased, adored, etc is all of a sudden shunned, they'll play it off, but most of the time, deep down somewhere, they'll wonder what the problem is, that leads to self doubt somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:31 PM
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A musician type could be successful, but the goth guy from high school just grown up, no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:22 PM
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FWB also never works, one of the two almost always catches feelings, from experiences I've witnessed, usually the female but I have seen happen to the guy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 02:59 PM
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The common denominator is still a guy who works out or takes care of himself in some fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:32 AM
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You meet, you go on a date, or two, you fuck, you become GF/BF, if that worked out you got married, if not rinse and repeat. In college, as a non-chad just about all my interactions got to 3rd base first night I met them This is exactly how every serious relationship I've ever had has happened, I'm 31 for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:04 AM
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Usually a not hot chick, but just "yeah I'd fuck her" type who's very nerdy, with extremely beta dudes who never saw a gym in their life The only poly couple I know is this exact situation. The girl is nerdy, average attractiveness, the guy looks like what would you consider super beta, looks like never stepped in a gym, rarely is seen on her social media, I'd say below average male with sloppy hair, beard unkept looking, etc. they have a kid together. Provided I don't know them super well, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:10 PM
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Fat is not synonymous with ugly Maybe not but you're probably more likely to be ugly if you're fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:53 AM
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men are not aware who their looksmatch Truly are Oh yes they are, even if they don't want to admit it. They may not care about it when they're trying to get laid but they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:49 AM
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"Less" attractive girls know they can't just coast on being a female to get attention from the guys they desire so they have to at least be more open to things. The inverse is average guys who have to wine and dine a female to even get attention from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:15 PM
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So what is the thing being debated here? Of course everyone wants to date out of their league, most people aren't going to willingly admit that someone they desire is out of their league and they have no shot. Maybe in retrospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:09 PM
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The difference is, an average woman can get laid easily if she wants, an average man does not have that same luxury. Even dudes who sleep around normally go through dry spells and they'll take whatever to get their rocks off. I don't think women go through the same thing, maybe I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:05 PM
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31m - I believe 34. I don't really care what their number is, maybe as long as it isn't over mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:54 PM
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I'm not talking about finances at all, the median salary might be $67k but that's because it's skewed because of ridiculous CEO earnings, etc. You take the average person, male or female, they're not making that, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:45 PM
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The elites pushed it. They wanted more women working to create more competition for jobs and bust up the unions. It worked perfectly. Stagnant wage growth for generations This absolutely happened but because of feminism? That's a bit of a stretch. The state of the working class in the US is a disaster but feminism probably has little to nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:12 PM
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How many resources do you think the typical man needs to out do the typical woman Probably more than most. The dating game has left the "average" guy behind. For what those reasons are, you could ask 10 people and get 7 different answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:11 PM
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Feminism originally was just equality in terms of rights, pay, etc, it's the fringe radical fem groups that are turning it into some anti men movement. If you can silence the bad faith actors, that'll be a net positive for all. Ask an old school feminist, most of them, just anecdotally, are not a fan of what their "movement" is being turned into, grandstanding and anti male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:57 PM
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I have to say, I think misandry right now is exploding more than misogyny is. Maybe it's just the loud minorities but I've never seen as much "man hate" as I've seen recently like to the point where I saw a female verbally berate a guy in public for just literally existing. I legitimately did not see or hear anything to what this guy did wrong. Did this woman have trauma and needs help? Probably. But few people turned their eye to it, and in fact, people kept checking if she was ok, mainly women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:53 PM
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Wall is a big cope I wouldn't say it's a cope necessarily, I have to think statistically a woman's prospects so to speak do decrease as they get older unless they've taken very good care of themselves, good genetics etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:34 PM
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terrible standards Both males and females lack self control for the right person and have terrible standards depending on what it is. We're all hypocrites one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:28 PM
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No because it's a pure guess on my part and I admit as much but I have heard enough stories of dead bedrooms with age gaps to make my assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:21 PM
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I don't think as commonly as people here say it does but I do think it happens more than some would think. I would guess it's probably a solid 1/4 of marriages have some kind of variation of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:58 PM
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He's saying it's no different than a woman using a guy for his money and dangling sex for him every once in a blue moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:35 PM
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I believe there's no going back at this point, technology will continue to advance, OLD will continue to evolve and be the normal. As more and more men continue to become socially awkward, shelter themselves for better or for worse, or just continue being "simps"; It's just going to continue to cause problems in the respect of "dating equality". The only thing that will potentially bring any balance back is if guys collectively stop acting so desperate to get laid and creating such a supply and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:50 PM
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I don't get the idea that heels are for insecure women. I don't think women care about their own height at all unless they're dating a really tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:49 PM
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(if) a man plays football for two weeks he'll be in shape I wish it was that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:47 PM
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Ruining the dating market overall? A bit of a stretch but inflating the ego of many women? Likely. High quality men are still going to be fine no matter what simps are doing, it only hurts the dating market for average men,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:58 PM
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What is a high n count though, I feel like that number can be so different for most
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:54 PM
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That's fair, I do forget sometimes that the average adult in the US is overweight leaning towards obese now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:57 AM
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Probably so. I think porn has corrupted a lot of men's minds to what can be obtained in the real world. I also think a lot of guys in today's world are extremely socially awkward and for one reason or another just don't know how to be social to a point where it's very offsetting. I don't mean just an introvert, I mean completely ruins the vibe when trying to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:54 AM
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That's not what I said but if Seth Rogen was a complete nobody on the street, he would be less successful with women most likely. I'm more than comfortable saying that most women do not desire to be with "larger" men. Also like the women who fawn over Post Malone but if he wasn't famous, he would be viewed super negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:51 AM
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Hell if I know, I'm not pretending to have all the answers, I just don't think it was as cut and dry as you implied. Let's be honest though, there's probably a lot of men and women who would match well if they knew the other existed whether it's because they don't live near you, they don't go out, you never notice them, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:49 AM
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Money plays a factor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:47 AM
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You guys attack the women you "really want" for having high standards lol but truth is she just doesn't want you. How is that not entitlement again? I will say, men and women's standards are in two totally different realms. "Most" guys just want a woman who's not obese. "Most" women have a longer list whether it's height, this, that, etc. Always will be outliers, etc. I don't think the guys who are salty about women not wanting them care so much about the rejection as much as the reasoning. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:44 AM
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I will say, I've had more spontaneous and unexpected success from the work place than anywhere else especially if you're a younger more attractive guy and the majority of your male colleagues are average or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:46 PM
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College towns tend to be a mixed bag, if you're the upper end of attractive, you'll have success but if you're not, you're probably in more trouble than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 03:45 PM
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most of the dating "advice" guys get on here is "brush your teeth" and "take a shower". The reason this even exists is because apparently there's enough guys out there not doing this regularly that just by doing it regularly, you already probably beat 10-15% of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 10:38 PM
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Apparently this is/was my issue. I'm outgoing but my one "vice" in terms of dating was the initial meeting, approach, whatever you wanna call it. But if the woman flirted with me first or I met them in a friend group, success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:56 PM
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Hard line TRP and FDS are both equally toxic and should be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:42 PM
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Nobody thinks 5'8 is tall but a sizable group of women don't think it's short either. The women who are obsessed with height are going to be the ones who tend to be more shallow. My girlfriend is 5'0, she's glad I'm not any taller than my 5'8
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:05 AM
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Have you been to a bar recently? They're emptier. Millennials and gen Zers are clubbing less and less which makes it harder to meet people. Where is this? Every bar I go to is full of 21-31 year old guys trying to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:17 AM
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I was reading a thread in FDS This is where you go to learn nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:01 PM
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That's objective though. I know several couples with very good front facing relationships. Behind the scenes, there's someone sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:45 PM
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If she likes you, you won't even question on whether to make a move for a kiss, you'll know. If you have to ask or question it, majority of time, you should abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:58 AM
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You will strike out 99% of the time if you go to a social environment with the blatant intention of getting laid. Women can sense that shit from the second you walk into a bar, I don't know how, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:56 AM
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At this point, it’ll take decades of “deprogramming” to get the idea of below average men chasing women relentlessly in terms of excessive stalking, danger, etc also proper sexbots or legal prostitution would have to be in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:20 AM
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All accurate issues that will doom us long before women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:45 PM
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The core philosophy of FDS is: man puts in 100% and woman gives back 0%. Exactly, both FDS and TRP are toxic in their own respects and quite frankly, FDS should be quarantined or ridiculed just like TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:07 AM
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The "number" ranking is rather useless in the real world. My 7 or 8 might be a 4-5 for you and vice versa. Then when you add descriptive words into the fold, makes it more confusing. What's "cute" vs "sexy" or "gorgeous" vs "hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:45 PM
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I have like 900 and that's more than most of my friends, but all the "hot" girls have thousands, I have a mutual friend, she has 10k followers. Instagram is a wild west for attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:02 PM
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Conservatives today are hard right, liberals are centrist. The "progressive" wing of the Democratic Party are controlled opposition. The true "elites" of today's democrat party are center left at best. The US is a ridiculously conservative country at its core.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:58 PM
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school that is tying up 8+ hours a day with desk sitting Add the average American workday with that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:41 AM
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I don’t get the logic of “competing”, you’re into who you’re into regardless. To each their own though But thank you for answering honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:34 PM
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I initially wrote off my husband for a brief time because I saw another woman flirting with him. I don’t understand this logic and it’s been mostly prevalent through this thread. I’m not saying you should have been more attracted to him because of it but how do you write him off when she’s doing the flirting? So how did you end up getting with your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:30 PM
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poster I'm a male first of all and I didn't "limit" it to bars and clubs, etc. I used it for my example because it's the most likely place for my scenario to play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:47 PM
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maybe ask the real question, the one your afraid to ask Which would be what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:45 PM
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Any girlfriend I've ever had, we've had sex within the first 2 dates, honestly, my philosophy is, if you're really into each other, you're not gonna want to wait and that sentiment is from both sides. Personally I would not go more than 3 dates or a month, whichever happens first, without moving on. Being physical aka intimacy is a big part of a relationship and I want to know relatively early on if we're compatible in that arena. I have nothing against those who wish to wait longer and I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:54 PM
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A career woman is only negative when they're so focused on it for the financial aspect that they neglect the relationship, this once happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:29 PM
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You should literally just have fun and enjoy life. I mean if you have a niche preference, maybe sometimes you go to a place where that would be prevalent but I wouldn't obsess myself with the thought of it. If you only go for a niche, you're setting yourself to fail with the broad majority otherwise, that's what a niche is, a small subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:09 PM
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Most dating issues are the faults to a point of the actual person complaining but there's also the huge overlying issue of the instant gratification culture growing around us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:35 PM
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guys popular wirh women would be interested in being cheaters Especially if there's issues within the relationship and a guy realizes he's high value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:44 PM
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Standards across the board have skyrocketed. By no means, there's nothing wrong with standards but now they're so sky high and social media really has ruined the average perception of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:41 PM
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but if a girl dates a guy, she sleeps with him, and wakes up and she notices then the guy is 4 inches shorter, I can fully empathize and understand why she would be angry about that, and in frustration even call that rape Absolutely fucking not. This is one of the most fucked things I've ever read on PPD. Any false rape claim should be punished by the punishment that the guy would have received had it been legit. A guy's life gets legitimately ruined by rape accusations even if proven false. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:09 PM
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I'm not super keen on performing those kinds of acts to a woman to begin with, honestly, if they do really want it, I want it said to me on text, something where if it ever goes super south, I can defend myself. I've never laid my hands on a woman in a way they didn't want, I'm not going to get screwed for life because some fling was like choke me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:59 PM
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women who are open about being into getting spat on, choked, slapped, anal, wanting their arses eaten etc. I'm not sure if this is something women are just being more vocal about liking or is it an after effect of porn. Although I imagine the majority want nothing to do with spitting, choking, slapping etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:57 PM
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“I don’t normally do this on the first date”. Means they almost always do it if the guy is attractive enough to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:56 AM
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Richmond, VA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:02 PM
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It might just be where I’m at but I see it constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:43 PM
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I’ve seen some beautiful women with what I would consider below average men or average at best. This is on a fairly regular basis. I mean like solid 7 or 8s females with like 5 on a good day dudes. I’m not sure if it something to do with me living near a college. EDIT: I see it a lot to those asking, I live in RVA so it might just above normal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 02:36 PM
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I don't equate 'Chad' with somebody with an automatic bad attitude, dark triad traits, etc. I've always worked under the assumption that Chad is just a guy with blessed genetics/good looks/good game/etc who can pick and choose whichever woman he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:22 AM
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I'm not worried about the results. I'm in shape. Who's obsessing? I'm asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:08 AM
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It's just selective bias. People only welcome the attention of those they want/allow in their bubble. Are there double standards? Absolutely, but that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:36 PM
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I would say face > body > status/money > height > personality I've seen short guys kill the game as long as they work out, can talk the talk, and know a few people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:20 PM
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TRP was never about concrete statistics, information, and reasoning. At its core, it should just be self improvement, etc. but it's just turned into go ahead and bang women and be awesome while doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:48 PM
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Those ridiculously pointed nails, not sure if that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:48 PM
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How do you figure? I constantly hear "women like guys in shape" but then I hear "not too in shape" So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:02 PM
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I couldn't imagine dating someone whose life revolved around their eating schedule and work out schedule. Gym rats are usually boring AF people too. All that time invested in exercise means they aren't well versed in much of anything else. What is considered a gym rat? I work out 3-4 days a week for a total of 3-4 hours a week, is that "too much" time spent? I have an entire life that functions just fine otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:08 PM
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double standards To be fair, my and your example may not be "toxic masculinity" but the double standards are strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:51 PM
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I've read stories about guys turning their girl down only to wake up to them having sex with them anyway While not exactly the same situation, I've essentially had this happen to me. I've blacked out drunk and "woke up" to a girl on top of me sex and all. Did I complain, no, but could you only imagine if this was roles reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:47 PM
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Like some of you have said, we're gonna have much worse issues in the world soon than just completely unequal dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:57 PM
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Also pretty much confirms even shy beta tactics seem confident when you are a chad. Being attractive as a male pretty much excuses any awkward or negative behavior you have when it comes to meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:04 PM
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The women saying "I'd never date a Trump supporter" Date? No chance. Hook up with him if he was attractive enough and alcohol was involved? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:46 PM
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No, he would have to be a hot Nazi obviously. If he were anything less than hot, his tinder bio would be posted all over Twitter and sjws would be trying to get him fired from his job, even though they would have fucked him if he was hot. Which is a pretty dangerous double standard. Have offensive opinions and you're hot? Get laid. Have offensive opinions and be average? Lose everything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:43 PM
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bi and likes women more but she found it way easier to date men Anecdotal I know but this seems to be the experience with most bi women I've known.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:37 PM
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BMI is a terrible metric and I don't know why it's still used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:16 PM
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I'm not gonna say it's changing drastically and I'm taken so I don't have a lot of track record for the past three years but I would think trends evolve, "dating strategies", etc all change ever so slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:12 PM
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You think the dating game is radically different than it was 6 years ago when we met on OkCupid? The dating game seems to evolve from year to year, and 6 years ago might as well be a lifetime ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:34 PM
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Agreed, their personalities alone are a turn off but they're so blatantly fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:31 PM
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A growing epidemic of women who will remain single forever because they've become jaded after going 10 for 10 mistaking "fuckboys" for good long term partners. I mean this is somewhat true if you take all the "where are all the good men" posts on social media seriously. They got pump and dumped unfortunately by a guy out of their league, then their standards are fucked after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:33 AM
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social media and social media simps I don't think anybody denies that social media and OLD for all the good its done in some regards has also ruined dating in a sense too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:32 AM
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so you don't want a house? I don't personally, as someone in works with mortgages, I see the kind of down payments that are being asked of people, the requirements involved, especially those with iffy credit like myself. I rather keep $10-$30k in the bank or invest it. Having a house isn't what I'm basing my life's successes on, maybe I'll readdress this mindset in a decade or so when I have kids, my credit is more stable, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:41 PM
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I wish I had a time machine to go party for a few weekends in the 90s, it looks much more fun and free flowing than today. Nobody really cared about status, money, hell probably even looks, etc. as much as they do now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:21 PM
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considering how most of the people on PPD are almost certainly below 5' What's this being judged on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:46 AM
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Can afford house payments in the nice part of town, cars, vacations twice a year, going out at least once a week to dinner drinks, putting 15-20% into 401k. If something happens to me where I can't work I don't want to lose my lifestyle. I'm sure you don't care but you realize how shallow this all sounds. You hold way too much value in material things. If a guy had these same standards, he'd get shit on left and right by women. You essentially want someone who makes top 2-5% money, good luck, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:36 AM
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I make sure she finishes before I do, happy sex life = happy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:21 PM
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Generally if a woman is into you, it's not exactly difficult to get things moving if she's even remotely in that state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:00 PM
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Who would have thought how many people are into mom son brother sister dad, etc porn
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:43 PM
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Guys out here are serial killers Anybody can be a serial killer, lets not act like men are the gatekeepers of crime
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:16 AM
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the boys of Reddit are not high value men This is a pretty gross generalization isn’t it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:14 AM
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That shy guy is just so shy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 02:13 AM
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Attractiveness is all that generally matters
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:18 PM
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This is the wholesome content purge week is all about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:32 AM
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Why do you think women are cheating more? There's also a double standard in place most of the time. If a guy cheats, he's a piece of shit, how dare him! If a woman cheats, she must have had a good reason, maybe he wasn't meeting her needs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 03:41 PM
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At this point, political ideologies are a hard line for me. I'm far left, I'm not even sure I could tolerate the average American liberal "left", absolutely zero chance I ever go further to the right than that. My girlfriend is a registered democrat but she's slowly drifting further left as the years go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:44 PM
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My count happens to be quite high, and a few times women have reacted with displeasure/disgust at hearing it. It never ruined anything between us, but it was clear that she'd have preferred it to be less. This is the extent of my conversations also when they inevitably happened. Mine is above average, so it didn't change anything but yeah she would have preferred it was less but I'm clean disease wise so in the end, it doesn't matter to most in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:14 PM
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horrific shit like autism and schizophrenia, This is a horrible thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:32 AM
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I've had the password of at least a dozen of girls's IG What’s this about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:17 AM
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DK any attractive woman that's young and doesn't regularly go out with their friends or go on group vacations I'll tell you one thing, the amount of young women I know who go on vacation seemingly every 3-4 weeks especially during the summer but always complain about money, I'm missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:53 PM
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A few years after that her husband will finally find the balls to divorce her Or he finally explores his other options and she divorces him since he's such a "piece of shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:14 PM
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If the CMV is simply, male and females are lied to about expectations, well then I can't disagree. I think the main way women are lied to about men is telling them that the hot rich alpha male will sweep her off her feet, marry her and accept her the way she is, Both males and females are told this in their respective scenarios. However, the general difference is that women continue to expect this throughout modern dating where guys are realizing this just isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:24 PM
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but women keep telling me that I am not. These women will end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:22 PM
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I hope your transparent about all this with your future relationships then I imagine most clear headed people would be ok with it, especially if it's phrased in the way he said. They were friends before, they tried something, it didn't work, strictly platonic now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:58 PM
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But I have no doubt that there are in fact men that would prefer that situation and live in delusion. Depends on the guy, but I have no doubt some guys rather just live in delusion and think they're in a loving relationship, especially if they're getting little to no sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:05 PM
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She was overweight and wanted a fit man with abs. Some HVM will bang her but she'll never get commitment from him and she'll end up in a vicious man hating cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:39 AM
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I've made a post about it before. Wealth isn't an absolute deal breaker yet, but it will be soon. Wealth is beginning to tie into status which younger women love which then is its own precursor to SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:07 AM
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+1 on the not stopping gaming, it's been a hobby since I was 10 years old, it keeps me from going out constantly and blowing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:05 AM
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Ask the guys who cuck themselves in one way and the girls who are bi who might lean more female.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 01:05 AM
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Here in the US if it were legalized I dont think it would be much more men that see escorts over now. I think it would only slightly increase. Its more so the stigma, that will never go away here in the US. The US is uptight about it. The stigma may not go away but I'm sure the numbers will increase plenty. I'm willing to bet more don't do it because of the legality, not the financial part.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:41 PM
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As usual, on a personal level this is true. On a societal level, its worth having discussions about people's unrealistic standards and how culture has shaped the dating experience into the dystopian horror show it seems to be All around one of the most correct statements I've read here in a while. Yes on a surface level, people don't get sex because people don't find them attractive enough. Digging deeper, this is because dating standards have shot through the roof thanks to social media, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 06:52 PM
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i hope this is how you talk to prospective dates. lots of red flags to warn them off. First of all, these are my opinions, not things I just throw out there on prospective dates. So sleeping with a 25 year old as a 31 year old is a red flag? Not wanting to deal with immature women? Where exactly is the red flag here or did I just offend you and this is how you're trying to have a comeback?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:28 PM
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Threesomes are for single people in my opinion. Most of the time, it eventually causes problems in a relationship except for those who firmly have established things beforehand. A lot of women say they want it or think it might be hot until their boyfriend is screwing a female that may be more attractive than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 08:09 PM
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There's layers to it I feel. Personally, at 31, I wouldn't sleep with a girl under 21, being able to go to a bar is the most basic of standards for me. But in all honesty, I'm likely not sleeping with anyone under 25 because at this point in my life, I can't handle excessive immaturity and playing games which women at that age are well known for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 08:05 PM
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I don't understand why everything on this sub is 0-100 This sub is very much an outlier. Most people in day to day life are somewhere in the middle, even if it's 10/90, 90/10, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 07:46 PM
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While I think it's harder than it used to be for the average man while being easier for the average women, all in all, of course dating is going to be worth it assuming at some point you find the right one. Most people dating aren't sleeping around, looking to upgrade, are happy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:58 AM
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I don't think the initial barebones premise is incorrect. He's right. Casual sex isn't attainable for most men, that's just reality. Most people, men or women would be better off finding someone for a long term relationship rather than play the dating market. But both males and females need to also come to grip with reality too that modern dating standards are and are continuing to be unrealistic and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:56 PM
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millions of people actually going through civilization collapsing right now (Afghanistan.) That we indirectly caused but that's a conversation for another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:22 PM
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The amount of sexless men rising rapidly is the successful challenge to OP’s CMV. Almost any female can walk into a bar and if she wants to get laid, she will be successful if she absolutely doesn’t care who “answers the call”. Most men, even above average men can’t walk into a bar and simply get laid without some effort if they get laid at all, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:37 AM
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Tell me you don’t know at least four women right now that you could have a relationship with. I don't know four other women that I could have a relationship right now if I was single. That's not logical at all. Unless a bunch of women are randomly telling you if you were single they'd date you, but that's not happening to 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:29 PM
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There's no hope for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:17 PM
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The real reasons a lot of men are choosing single life over relationships is because so many women are fat, ugly, masculine and unbearable. Both genders have their quote on quote "undesirables". However, based on the increasing amount of guys coming in here throwing fits about women's expectations and an increasing number of sexless males would tell me that they're miserably striking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:52 PM
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More like more and more people of both genders have come to the realization that it isn't so bad being single, and the freedom of being alone is high enough that a relationship will need a lot of benefits to outweigh it. Also social pressures are not as powerful as they were back in the day so a lot of the negative aspects of being single no longer applies. While more and more people don't mind being single, there's still likely many who crave a relationship but will never be happy because. they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:18 PM
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I don't see many INFP-T's in this thread, but here I am. 31/m
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 04:22 AM
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OLD is a sausages fest but so is anywhere else in real life designed to meet women Honestly between some women not liking being approached and sausage fest at the bar, OLD is likely a better option for most people, despite it's own shortcomings which there's plenty too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 04:37 PM
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What do you guys eat there ? American eating culture is oversized portions, junk food, way too much sugar, and alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:23 PM
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6'7 This alone puts you in a category most men can't achieve realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:19 PM
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but my heart says go for the first one You don't pick with the heart, you pick with your head, the one with the brain in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:18 PM
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Depends on what you consider "abundant". I slept around when I was single and was here still., I'm in a LTR now. I like the debate topics here and I have for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 07:13 AM
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The GDP however remains high and there are more movies/TV shows than ever so I guess if you look superficially it seems fine. Looking at things superficially and ignoring the bigger picture of the world is what the governments of the world want us to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:36 PM
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young people can't afford their own place to live and live a life of extended childhood Thanks capitalism, this will only continue to get worse and therefore this will affect the dating market also.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:57 PM
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Status and money don't mean diddly squat Status is huge in dating, especially in bigger US cities, its who you know, what have you done, what do you do, etc it's unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:44 PM
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Here's the thing. If he has planned a date with you, he wouldn't have planned a date with the other person. In Europe, this is likely common place, but in the US, culture has just kinda evolved to juggling multiple "potential partners" at any given time, or aka the "talking" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:32 PM
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people in America seem to date and sleep with several people at the same time when looking for something serious Part of that individualistic culture here, have your cake and eat it too. It's definitely part of the grand scheme issue of American dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:18 PM
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insufferable Most social media "stars", etc are insufferable, they have no sense of reality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/comments/ludsa0/i_feel_stuck_in_a_relationship_because_of_my_body/ She said she had a high body count of "4"? She is spoiled and probably not a catch at all. More times than not, people who complain openly like that are the issue themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:22 PM
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The next decade is going to be very interesting all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:23 PM
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I have met a lot of decent women out there but they all can't and proudly won't cook. They feel like that's part of patriarchy and oppression and even call it out as such. They all eat the food I make though. I hate to say I've seen this but I have. I'm 31, most women in my immediate age range who I know either rarely cook because it seems they just order out all the time or they simply don't have the patience. For my girlfriend and I, she does the breakfast/lunch, I do the dinner. She is not gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:55 PM
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Unfortunately this sub has been trending more and more like this for a while now. Do some guys fuck up and deserve their blame? Absolutely but the misandry here has been running wild lately. Anybody who labels "all men or women" has an axe to grind, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:51 PM
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Getting pumped and dumped is not "abuse". Yes, it is. Grow up. Take responsibility for your decisions. Is it wrong? Yes. But abuse? Come on, that's an incredibly dishonest use of that word and it discredits actual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:06 AM
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You may find it hard to believe but sex itself is a desireble thing for women I don't know why this is such a hard concept for some on this sub to understand. It's human nature to want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:05 AM
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Women like casual sex more than its put on and I'm not sure why it gets denied, all people like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:30 AM
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I don't know why people are surprised or even trying to discredit this study. Alcohol always loosens, relaxes, etc people. For better or for worse, it's a huge part of western culture and again for better or worse, it's also a huge part of dating/hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:40 AM
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Thats like saying most people like pizza so most people like pineapple pizza. To be fair, people who may not normally be interested in casual sex sometimes lust into it. Nobody is lusting for pineapples on a pizza per se. Sex is a primal desire, pizza is not. I've seen some of the snobbiest women around who think they're a 23 out of 10 walk into a bar and say "I need to find a guy to bang tonight, I almost don't care who, I haven't been laid in months" I agree though, the amount of men is higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:12 PM
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but only about 10% of women are willing to have sex without strings attached Where is this number coming from? Coming from a big city, this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:09 PM
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Then ghost after sex. Something happened then, whether the guy confessed what it was or not. Like said elsewhere in the thread, guys do like commitment also whether sexually or relationship. So if a guy just got up and ghosted all of a sudden after wining and dining someone for months, there was a huge red flag that occurred somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:07 PM
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But I think very many men would be open to having a relationship with a girl that started out as casual. Isn't it always said most good relationships start out out casually whether friends or FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:06 PM
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And the amount of women who want casual sex is FAR outweighed by the amount of men who do. While I think men do want it MORE, I'm also convinced women want it more than you realize. Most people regardless of gender like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:58 PM
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These numbers are just based on men subscribing to Ashley Madison however, a website for seeking affairs. This surprises me because I actually would think most people using AM would be upper middle class men in finance who don't have the time to go out and just find someone at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:49 AM
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Kpop guys have fame and status, it's an exception to a rule
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:12 AM
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Male suicide rates will skyrocket. This has already begun, so this one is well on its way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:54 AM
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They find it disrespectful that ugly dudes think they have a shot. This is the only time most women dislike when a guy approaches them. It's a pride thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:46 PM
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It seems women are actually less sexually adventurous with long term partners. I don't buy this for a second. A committed relationship is definitely more likely to try new things because there's a comfortability factor. If the sex begins to get stale, you're also more likely to try and change it up to spice things up again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:35 AM
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Is the manosphere against a woman being employed full-time I think it's generally a pride thing. A lot of those men are living in the old days of the "men should make more money because we're the centerpiece" philosophy. Most men don't probably care, myself included. Career males and females tend to be bad partners because they're so hyper focused on their careers that they completely ignore their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:31 AM
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What is a high n count? You'll ask 10 people and get 10 different answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:26 AM
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people on Reddit I think people really forget how small Reddit is, in the grand scheme of things. Yeah a lot of people use Reddit but in the end, it's still only a percentage of all people. You think most sex gods and goddesses are using PPD? Not likely. They're using reddit maybe, but they're not on here debating others in their free time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:56 PM
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The three most things have pretty much been mentioned. Unwanted pregnancy, STDs, or finding out she's batshit crazy after you're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:33 PM
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men don’t just want the hottest women, they want every attractive woman Is this really true though outside of like "oh yeah she's hot" or "Yeah I'd bang" but don't actually make effort to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:21 PM
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To a narcissist like him, it probably does
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:43 AM
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They're just going to say they'd rather stay single When in reality, we all know that isn't true. A lot of these women are looking for unicorns then if they exist, if they think they're going to find a guy who wasn't heavily into porn in his young adulthood, they're going to settle for either a guy with plenty of options since high school or someone highly religious who for those reasons shunned away from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 10:39 PM
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IT field at a respectable company Assuming this guy dresses remotely well, this is the reason right here. Indian guys tend to strike out very much in the US dating scene but if he’s making it obvious he has money and he can talk some game, he’ll clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:44 AM
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How in shape is this Indian guy you speak of? Wealth? Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:38 AM
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Dating now is a mess, I can only imagine the absolute shitshow it will be for Gen Z and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:31 AM
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Trump has probably fucked more women than you'd be able to in 100 lifetimes. I think he's good. By fucked, you mean they probably used two fingers to pinch it. No way a guy as out of shape as him has a healthy or active sex life. 30 years ago, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:13 PM
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Status in dating is absolutely a thing. Too many people want their significant other to be a trophy essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:07 AM
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TLDR: Uncomfortable truth is that men have higher standards for "girlfriend material" than they do for one night stands. I mean technically shouldn't we all have higher standards for relationships compared to sex. I've had one night stands with people that I would absolutely never be in a relationship with and there's some I would have considered if it had went down that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:39 PM
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I would also dare to say depends on how many IG “models” he was following. I’m friends with some who are aspiring ones basically, but I actually know them, have drinks with them, etc. therefore I feel it’s different than blindly just following x and y girl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 03:10 AM
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Personally, my experiences would tell me that if someone throws a fit about something so much that most would consider minor, they're engaging in that behavior themselves. Every time an ex-girlfriend accused me of cheating when I wasn't, I found out later they were in fact the ones doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:59 AM
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I’m interested. I feel like I’m pretty logical and level headed. I have some hands in different cookie jars per se, no specific pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 05:19 PM
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Men also often rely on their partners for their social lives. Is this actually true? I don’t know one guy in a relationship myself included who relies on their partner for my social life. I’m the social butterfly in my relationship who goes out with friends, etc. my girlfriend rarely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:58 AM
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It's almost creepy on how many women are actively into serial killer tropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:01 PM
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Income should only be brought up in LTRs and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 05:11 PM
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because its affects men no one gives a shit. Like most statistics that primarily affect men negatively as unfortunate as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:19 PM
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Alcohol doesn’t technically make someone attractive. It just lowers your inhibitions which means you’d lower your standards or expectations for someone you wouldn’t while sober. Whether you’re doing it for sex or other reasons, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:17 PM
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While I think the amount of sexless males is going up, this sub isn't a good indicator as the world as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:29 PM
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specifically told not to do Every job basically tells you that to be fair, if you're not being ridiculous about it, etc. you'll likely be fine. How many doctors, etc end up with each other, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:48 AM
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men in relationships who rather watch porn instead of having sex with their partners. This is a communication issue in the bedroom then. Porn might scratch some itches but if your porn life is better than you actual sex life in a relationship, there's something seriously wrong and it's not the porn. It's on us adults to have realistic viewpoints of porn, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:09 AM
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That's one area I'm not messing with. To be fair, that's on you then. The workplace and friend groups are sometimes just as good to "meet" people as groups, bars, etc. But overall unfortunately, being a below average male anywhere in the western world is a no go for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:07 AM
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Skyrocketing expectations that I laid out in this post being: Don't be a degenerate coomer with ED/Brain damage, don't be into casual sex or sleeping around. Don't be a video game addict or a manchild. You're right, I'm such an unreasonable MONSTER for expecting the bare minimum lmao. You're moving the goalposts and also playing victim. I didn't say YOU had unrealistic expectations but you took responsibility, if the shoes fits. Nobody wants degenerates, etc. You're not breaking some kind of bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:44 PM
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The OP is correct, and while they are definitely men with issues, the main cause of women possibly needing to be prepared for life alone isn't solely because of men and their way of living. If anything, it'll be because of women's skyrocketing expectations. And let's be fair here. I'm not talking about realistic and normally expected things. The women and men for that matter should expect to be alone if they always expect 10s, perfect looks, perfect income, etc. OP has a very unhealthy viewpoint…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:28 AM
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I feel like men will say yes to any half-decent woman who takes initiative Part of it is that simple but women approaching men is so rare now that most guys don't even know how to act in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:10 AM
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create a national tragedy. Which I think is the unfortunate reality of desperate guys who want to leave a legacy behind who can't do it under traditional means.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:08 AM
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I think we're going to hit a breaking point in the next decade. When the inevitable advances in sex technology progress and dudes who would normally would blow their money on attempts to wow females, etc. end up with sex robots instead, either we're going to quickly start seeing birth population dropping aka Japan. OR In the event that the sex robot fantasy doesn't pan out, you're going to see an unfortunate rise in crimes against women as incels hit a breaking point. In terms of parity in the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:47 AM
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Not quite. I give equal blame in this same thread to women with inflated value of themselves as far as SMV goes but it goes both ways. Women need to loosen up their sky high standards but men need to also learn how to socially interact better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:07 AM
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For all I know, maybe their approach is just awful, maybe looks wise they’re not in good shape, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:11 AM
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There is absolutely no chance of me believing that a full 50% of women aren't having sex at university, lol. I can believe it. If a women's SMV is being enhanced by the amount of desperate incels out there, they're being more picky. A female would probably rather not have sex than hook up with someone they feel is way below their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:46 PM
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Porn is part of the problem but to label it as the main issue is being unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:38 PM
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It's OLD and social media mostly, the instant gratification part anyway. I don't believe in the TRP theory of hypergamy but if it did exist, the average guy has themselves to blame by not taking care of themselves, being obnoxious in trying to pick up women, and not learning social cues for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:35 PM
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Likely not but is that really going through the head of someone during their internal dialogue before casual sex? It’s usually a lustful situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:09 PM
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Both parties in the duopoly are ass for the average American and once you understand that, you can truly begin to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:58 AM
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It’s not realistic to find a man that makes 50k (average salary of an American woman) a year? Jesus we’re fucking doomed. Cite this. Average salaries are probably being skewed way high because of the top 1% and the ridiculous wealth they have. Wages are stagnant in the US for the most part and even if they’re higher, you’re likely living in a higher COL area. $50k isn’t some easily obtained salary like some think it is. The median salary for 2019 was $36k and household was around $69k. https://p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:53 AM
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Between only 7% of women orgasming on the first sexual encounter Is this really some deciding factor on men/women sexual relations. I don’t think I made my girlfriend flat out orgasm on the first time we had sex either, you have to learn what they like, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:45 AM
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I love when males spew their weird little revenge fantasy scenarios I don’t know about the revenge part of it. It was said in brash fashion but he isn’t totally wrong with a sizable group of women. I could point out dozens of women on FB who “stay single until they find what they deserve”. I would consider these women average if I had to judge, they stay single for months/years on end until finally they end up with someone who I would consider below average/he’s a piece of shit/has a record/has …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:39 AM
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If you are friends with people who slept with over 100 people, then maybe you just have the wrong friends. What’s the logic here? How ridiculous of a culture is it now that people want to judge friends based on their sex lives? I have friends from all walks of life from the single digit n counts to the 50+, that’s their business. I’m an adult, I can make my own life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:34 AM
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FWB typically means she wants the guy but he won’t commit. It’s rarely an actual peer. Anecdotally, this is the situation with any females I know who have a FWB, it’s usually a best friend who she’d be a couple with in a second but he won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:21 AM
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More women suffer from negative consequences due to situation-ships than porn. Opposite for men. This technically probably may be true but both men and women suffer from both these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:17 AM
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Financial security is about to become only 2nd to looks in the dating scene within a decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:56 AM
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Correct. Many unfortunately foolish and easily impressible young women are going to be wowed by the fake status of their "badass" boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:50 AM
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Nobody wants their dusty low count sperm You obviously have something against “older” men. You’re not even debating in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:16 PM
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Women in their 20s want men in their 20s who can still fuck and look good I’m in better physical shape all around at 31 than I was at any point in my 20s. I’m sure there’s many twenty somethings that could “beat” me but the average guy who’s likely statistically to be overweight and likely not working out? No chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:13 PM
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I don’t understand all the negative connotations. I just game because it’s familiar and it saves me from going out and drinking more.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 06:23 AM
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I've known women in their mid-40s who were in better shape than the majority of 25 year olds. This is true. Most females I know who actually take care of themselves are late 20s-mid 30s, it seems younger women just rely on youth for their looks, body shape, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:02 AM
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That’s insane. That isn’t even close to a dad bod, he’s jacked more than 75% of guys, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:54 AM
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I’m 31, most people think I’m in my late 20s, so no complaints. If I could stay at my current physical and mental shape forever, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:43 AM
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Most men I meet are perfectly normal human beings. It’s very rare for me to actually meet an asshole, and when it does happen, I basically stop talking to them and move on with my life. Yet I come onto the internet and single women everyone push all of the blame of being single on all of these asshole men they meet everywhere. It’s simply not the case. The perfectly normal men just aren’t good enough for them, that’s all it comes down too. Probably one of the most correct things I've ever read o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:45 PM
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I just... Don't understand why people would waste time if they knew from the start they weren't compatible with each other. This is why divorce rates are up, not some narrative that marriage is a joke, hypergamy, etc. People try to ram square pegs into circular holes and ignore red flags, etc just for sake of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:09 PM
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This is a subjective question across the board. Every single person has their own measure of failure for themselves and others. Every person also has their own standards, rules, etc that they will or won’t break for a particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:52 AM
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It's already gone wrong if the guy is approaching me at a bar Why is that disqualifying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:08 AM
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I’m a far leftist myself into Marxist territory, if any women hints to me she’s even remotely conservative, it’s not gonna happen, I likely wouldn’t even have casual sex if offered. Liberals I have more tolerance for but even then, I’m not thrilled. All in all, I probably couldn’t be involved at this point with someone who is not anti capitalist like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:21 PM
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Sex is the backbone of a relationship because sex is emotional in the end. You can have a great relationship everywhere else but if the sex is bad or non existent, it won’t last for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:10 PM
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be hurt and bitter for a while I feel like that’s more of a reactionary RP response.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:15 AM
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Also binge drinking culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:14 AM
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It's calories in calories out For most yes, keep in mind for some people with metabolic or thyroid issues, it’s not as easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:13 AM
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peak in physical attractiveness at around 25 My 31 year old self would like to talk to my 25 year old self. Maybe your most potential physically, women maybe, but I feel most men peak around my age or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:10 AM
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So many marriages fail because people in general just don’t vet like they should anymore. They ignore red flags for looks, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:06 AM
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That’s all social media is for a lot of women now, dopamine hits and gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:04 AM
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I’m pretty sure it’s like 60% of the entire adult population is overweight, fat is subjective to many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:02 AM
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People in general will ignore red flags for someone they have heavy attraction to until either common sense takes over or an unfortunate event occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:55 AM
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What makes you think ugly women want to date ugly men? They don't. That's part of the issue in the dating world. Less attractive men know their unfortunate place so to speak, they just want interaction with females sometimes and finally sex without hookers. Less attractive women want it all because they're used to desperate guys, so their value is inflated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:07 PM
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Women who do gaming streams are usually pretty attractive. I don’t make the rules. They also seem to make decent girlfriends,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:07 AM
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nice guy vs bad boy This trope has so many different levels to it though. Most nice guys aren't nice and the ones who plead with the world that they are usually are faking it. Actual nice guys are literally just dudes with manners but get bundled in with the phony nice guys. Bad boys half the time are dudes who just try to be edgy and they get exposed too in certain situations. Then we have actual bad boys who probably have red flags. All in all, there's no redeeming quality to have a label as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:04 PM
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any chance your aversion to unpredictable and violent men has something to do with your father I'm just speculating but I'm sure this is subconsciously why /u/cherryloaf is turned off by any behavior as such. It's basically trauma. A lot of women think that's normal and fall into that trap of being attracted to it unfortunately but some rise above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:01 PM
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The 6'6 thing is literally propelling you above 90% of guys off the bat before your face, fitness, etc was even addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:58 PM
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I don't consider myself any pill but my 'Realism' tag attempts to take perspectives from all and put them into realistic scenarios and logic in today's world. RP: Probably half of women at most actively in the dating scene are like that, not all. However, I don't think it's necessarily because women are biologically wired this way, I think society has pushed them there without them even realizing it. Physical appearance including height while subjective and then self esteem is #1 and #2 to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 06:32 PM
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This If that is what women consider meh, a lot of guys’ hopes and dreams just died.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:06 AM
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I'm sure it always existed to an extent but I can't imagine it was as effective five decades ago for example like it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:52 PM
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I would argue as the generations move forward, more stereotypically “attractive” people of both genders are relying more and more on their looks to get by and not actually be nice people or have great personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:21 PM
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What a ridiculous comment. Our existing lifestyle is more taxing than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:20 AM
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Charlotte is an absolute disaster for dating on both sides. A lot of the women have inflated egos because they live in a “growing city” and a lot of the guys have major frat vibes even into their 30s. If I ever become single again, I highly doubt I stay in this city long term especially once I want to get out and date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:00 AM
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This seems to be an explicitly US centric thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:36 AM
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I would personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:38 PM
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Personally I don't think I could date anybody younger than 25, I'm 30 for reference. I also wouldn't date older than 32 or 33, maybe with exceptions. Younger than 25, they are absolutely status obsessed and have commitment issues because they just want to go out every weekend and get shit hammered with their friends. They basically act like college kids still, some still are, and most of them just haven't gotten to that phase where it's worth dating them. Older than 32, if they're single, there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:35 AM
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I'm not saying the women you're describing don't exist because I know they do and experienced it first hand myself. These same women who are perpetually on dating apps, tinder, etc are likely only there for validation anyway or seeking the top of the top, they'll get their validation from the below average guys and maybe if they'll lucky, some top tier guy will give her time of day. Usually these kind of women's standards are always sky high and nothing satisfies them and they're likely going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:04 PM
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But if it took a woman two months to want anything physical with me I have to agree also. I will respect any woman's wishes, etc if she wants to wait. I have and will never force something on a female that would make them uncomfortable. However, I'd respectfully move on. I'm not even a guy who expects anything on a first or second date, but two months is excessively long, for me at least. Every relationship I've ever had, there's been sexual activity up to and including actual sex within three d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:01 PM
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Yeah shallow women who likely have their own red flags and relationship issues. The average male is 5'7. If anybody is that obsessed with height where it deal breaks a potential relationship if everything else lines up, it's probably their loss in the end. I'll give an exception to freakish tall people like basketball players, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:53 PM
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I think porn is only a negative thing if you let it be. Most things in life is moderation and if you go overboard, you risk a consequence. Also, people should understand by now that most professionally produced porn is fake as could be, if you don't, that's kinda on you. If you're gonna watch porn, actual homemade stuff is the way to go, you know, where it's not unrealistic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:49 PM
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gains mean nothing if you're below 6' Not totally true. You'll lose some no matter what but lifting is more important than height unless you're really really short.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:46 PM
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grossly inflated idea of their relationship market value This right here. A large group of women around 30 or older who are attractive and frequent the bar scene constantly have misread the market. They usually always go on dates and even occasionally hook up but are always single; because of this, they think they deserve a great relationship but they obviously don’t have what people call here “relationship market value”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:13 AM
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From my experiences and witnessing of things, the majority of these women are the issues themselves in relationships whether they ignore red flags for some guy they find worth it or they have a kid from a hookup, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:06 AM
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I have to imagine it may depend on their profession obviously but I feel like with wages being very stagnant. I’d have to think somewhere between $30-$40k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:10 PM
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I really think it’s more of a 70/30 rule personally. Out of that “top 30%”: 10% is above average but cannot get laid at will, can get laid but with some effort, some luck, etc. (personally, I would identify myself here) The next 10% is slightly more above average, mostly doesn’t get laid at will, sometimes does depending on the night, etc. probably has at least 1 or 2 moderately attractive women at any time he could reach out to if he wanted to bang. The final 10% is broken up into two groups, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 04:00 PM
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People make their own hierarchies or rankings within groups, even if the group as a whole is top whatever percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:48 PM
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What? An average guy does not make 50k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:38 PM
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I’m not worried about myself. I live in a suburb of said big city and I’m in a LTR. I have several single friends and I see their struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:08 AM
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That 15% in preference probably overlaps with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:37 AM
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Imagine if women really did only fuck the hottest guys. What a world While I don’t think it’s as doom and gloom like many say, it’s closer to this reality than just average guys getting laid constantly. I can’t speak for all but living in a big city, I’ve seen the dating scene out here, if you’re not tall, a bank bro, or overly fit, the women seem to gloss over you unless they’re wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:36 AM
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Being fit is the absolute game changer like you said. Women infinitely like a guy in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:33 AM
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I think infidelity happens as much as it does because people settle just to get married, which leads to dead bedrooms. Sex is a major relationship component, no matter what anyone says. OR They’ve just gotten into such a “routine” that nobody is trying to keep the relationship interesting anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:27 AM
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worked out, gotten ripped, built a strong career, Right, you may not be succeeding with women unfortunately but you had success elsewhere in life, if TRP helped, it’s a net positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:23 AM
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it's possible for every guy to sufficiently improve in the first place Technically it is. Even if just some random guy works out but doesn’t get women, he still likely improved his health. Maybe some guy learns how to dress better and it helps with a new job. I don’t agree with a lot of TRP but I do think there’s a legitimate self esteem growth aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:22 AM
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The entire kitchen in the restaurant you went to is banging each other, to at least some extent guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:28 PM
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Fair enough I suppose, it's just sad to see how far some guys have fallen in terms of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:44 PM
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if sex does not occur they become anger, throw tantrums, make scenes, call you names, and make you feel downright horrible Who actually does this though? This has to be the minority of men. I’ve never expected sex on a first date, if it happens, it’s consensual, if not, ok fine, if it’s good chemistry, I’m willing to wait a few dates, and if it doesn’t happen by a certain amount of time thats reasonable, I’ll break it off maturely, it’s simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:07 PM
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So do most men who are able to obtain casual sex and/or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:04 PM
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I don’t mind thickness on a woman but 300+ lbs is over what I’d be interested in. Not even from a likely physical standpoint but also a health standpoint, I’m very big on health and longevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:53 AM
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I never understood why so many guys think this is going to get them spontaneously laid. Like they're sitting there before they hit send and they go "Yep, she's gonna totally want me now".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:44 AM
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Men WANT to bang very specific women but they WILL have sex with a big bowl of pudding. They do not let preferences get in the way of having a place to park the dick. Can this be any more sexist? I get it, men like sex, it's important to us. Give me a break though, this sub is getting more and more anti male and it's silly. Most men will not fuck absolutely anything that moves unless they're so far down the totem pole that they have no option except to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:42 AM
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I’m with you on that one. Most “pornstars” today are so over produced, overly fake, etc that it’s not even fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:29 PM
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I don’t think anyone can argue that social media is one of, if not the worst thing to happen to the dating scene in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:28 PM
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Social media and it's consequences have been a disaster for the women race I can’t agree with that in good faith. It’s been a disaster for both genders but males have definitely suffered more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:13 PM
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what kind of family she comes from I started to value this a bit more as I started looking for serious relationships. I’ve had anecdotal evidence several times that if they come from a divorced parent household or single parent household, their relationship skills are not impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:10 PM
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Technically if a HVM is wealthy, attractive, etc. Wouldn’t we just default to consider HVF as female athletes, celebrities, IG models, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:07 PM
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In other news, red flags are red
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:04 PM
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If they’re on tinder, they’re not worried about a nice relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:54 PM
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Millennials are a lot less nightclub oriented I’m 30 and I can’t stand most of them anymore. They generally get overpacked by college kids acting like complete idiots who can’t handle their alcohol. I’m not short tempered but I can only handle so many drunk douchebags knocking my drink out of my hand, running into me, and talking shit before it’s like alright either I’m punching you or I’m leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:26 AM
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most guys take that as universal consent extending to everything No, abusers or antisocial men do that. I probably speak for many men that if a female shows me interest, I immediately know that pulling my junk out or forcing myself upon her is obviously wrong for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 07:21 AM
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Clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:57 AM
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IRL, he doesn’t touch online stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:56 AM
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Who’s fitting what predetermination to what? We all know what confidence looks like vs non confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 06:56 AM
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I'm not but I choose not to bring my political leanings into my debates here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:39 PM
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Agree to disagree, I’m not going to bring a political conversation into PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:38 PM
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The solution is socialism but I chose to leave my political leanings out of the main post. Inequality/capitalism is responsible for most of the issues in this world especially this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 09:52 PM
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Acts like just enough of a douche confidence that women find it appealing, whatever that entails. He's not abusive to women, etc. He just does his own thing despite what others thinks and women love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 09:47 PM
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Sounds like his confidence and way he carries himself is the issue. My best friend is 5'6 and cleans up with women, has a ton of confidence, still polite to women, just that touch of asshole that makes them interested. EDIT: "touch of asshole" meaning he acts like just enough of a confident douche that women seem to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:31 PM
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That's pretty wild actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:29 PM
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Honestly, I don't know why dudes get weirded out by a female making more than them. It's not a bother to me, it's actually my current situation. Answer honestly, do you have a bunch of guys coming after you but you reject them due to anything financial, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:16 PM
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It's just the female version of a dick measuring contest. Like dudes brag on each other for pecking order, this is the female version of it probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:50 PM
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I feel like I'm the opposite. I'm very mindful of the economic landscape around me. I'm not single and in a LTR, but if I was ever to get out there to date again, I know what it's like to struggle financially and I wouldn't hold it against someone else unless it's for justifiable reasons, aka drug dealing, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:40 PM
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Where you see more and more people forego dating because they're "focused on their career" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:10 PM
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Fair, but depends on where you live, in most big cities, 40k won't cut it. the problem is most people don’t Which fits into this, even under your premise; I don't expect people's spending habits to magically become drastically different and frugal, not until the housing market becomes so unsustainable that people don't have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:10 PM
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In my belief, women value it more than men, so it's only going to further alienate the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:08 PM
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Not necessarily, I was a young dude trying to get laid at the time, I just wanted to add another to the life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:26 PM
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There’s women who rejected me when I was younger and less stereotypically attractive. Years later when I was more attractive, confident, and in shape, those same women wanted to date, I wouldn’t do more than sleep with them. Not sure if that’s the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:22 PM
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Gotta be better than the stuff people pump beef with and whatever we do to chicken.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:28 PM
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I don’t personally think violence is attractive to women unless maybe you’re a MMA fighter or something but I also just didn’t think it’s fair to say under that premise that saying fighting cops is the same as a guy doing his job essentially
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:19 PM
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because he fought security, law enforcement or medical staff That’s totally different than a bouncer fighting an unruly guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:19 AM
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Men are actually the ones getting married later To be fair, the men are normally older in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:14 AM
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There is an ocean of desperate late 20's and early 30's women. Anecdotally, I’ve never seen more entitled women than in this bracket. Maybe it’s the effect of living in a big city but when I meet women around this age out and about (I’m in a LTR so this is platonic) the majority of them go on constant vacations and bar hop every weekend, constantly “date”, and then when you inquire on what they want, they expect the same options as the most attractive 21 year old out of college. IMO, you never o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:11 AM
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Most 25 yo men don't have trouble finding a girlfriend or hookup. Is this true though? I was under the impression less men than ever are having sex. Most men under 25 today are growing up in disastrous situations for dating. Social media and OLD was the absolute worst thing to ever happen to dating despite the fact many find success. It’s also led to the hookup culture that is reserved for the top percents of each gender
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:34 PM
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There’s also more women in the world than men so if majority of US population is overweight, of course you’ll see more obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:19 PM
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Ugly women don't get laid easily and don't get boyfriends easily. You’re half right. They can still likely get laid easily if they choose to do so, the boyfriend thing, that’s probably correct. There’s just too many desperate guys left over from this new normal that they absolutely would sleep with an “ugly” if it was that or nothing. Also correlates to why OLD is a disaster for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:15 PM
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Not to mention now more than ever, cold approaching in most scenarios is considered creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:18 PM
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You mean on the first few dates or period?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 02:46 AM
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I think approaching in person is a dead strategy for most except the top 5% of guys now whether in looks or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 12:07 AM
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Just because a guy is trying to fuck you, doesn't mean he likes you. He may not like you at all. I’m not sure about that. Maybe you don’t have “feelings”, etc. but I gotta be able to tolerate you enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 07:46 PM
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A. Today, there are far more sexually active women than sexually active men or B. Female “anatomy” is much different in 2021 than it was half a century ago. I think A is actually true, not even in the sense of bashing. Also honestly, with the amount of weird shit that ends up in our food now, B wouldn't shock me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:26 PM
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bias that women can’t find goodlooking men creepy. I think you're missing the broad point. Of course they can. Nobody should deny that. However, the tolerance level a woman is likely to accept typical creepy behavior is much higher if the guy is attractive. I would love to not feel this way but no matter what the women of PPD want to say, I've seen it countless times in a social setting. Put a legitimate unattractive male in a bar next to a legitimate attractive man, let's say both are above ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:10 PM
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People trying to say one is worse or more relevant than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:33 PM
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10% at best. The male slander here is getting out of control. Some of you really think FIFTY PERCENT?. No chance whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:29 PM
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I can’t think of a single case in real life where sleeping with a bunch of women got a guy clout or status It likely won't get you clout in terms of overall status. It MIGHT give you some clout in a preset group of friends. Also, there's probably at least some chance that if you're attractive and word about you in terms of good sex has gotten around social circles, some ladies may be interested in checking it out for themselves, but again, if you're attractive; Most women will give you the time …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:20 AM
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I don’t think it’s unrealistic to wonder if in a broad eugenics campaign, sex bots could somehow carry genetically created offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:52 PM
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Wait until you can somehow mate with a sex bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:44 PM
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For some people having a healthy sex drive is a curse. Right, but again, for SOME people. Sexuality is as natural as plants and the air we breathe. It is unfortunate for those who have unhealthy relationships with their sex drives, sexuality, or anything in that realm as it pertains to a mental condition but that still shouldn’t lead to a slippery slope of labeling sexuality as a whole a curse, a problem, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:42 PM
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Misandry is seen as more excusable than misogyny Neither should have a place but here we are having a dick measuring contest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:52 PM
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What the fuck? Sexuality is not a curse, it’s literally human nature. If someone can’t control their sexual urges and desires, that’s a person by person problem, not a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:45 PM
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I’m really bothered lately by the anti male agenda that is brooding on this subreddit. This subreddit was always supposed to be good faith arguments and insights into other peoples’ mindsets. Lately half the threads just seem like it’s just taking shots at guys because x or y reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:42 PM
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Starfish sex is just as detrimental to a relationship as no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:16 PM
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teens prefer playing Madden to actually going out and playing flag football, club football, trying out for the school team, I don’t think this is a good example. You can get sex and not necessarily be good at sex, physically fit and/or watch porn. Playing an actual sport is a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:15 PM
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a shitty bank account People care more about this more than they should unfortunately. Some people have had pure bad luck in life with money issues, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:22 PM
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I’ve had zero success on Tinder as a man who is considered attractive by most. I’ve had success on OkCupid, Hinge, and POF. I’m convinced Tinder is just full of bots and people trying to promote their OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:20 PM
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skinny/fit No matter what a lot of women say about liking non fit guys because of less pressure or dadbods because it’s “cuddly”, many always end up with a skinny guy, not even necessarily fit. I think it’s a subconscious thing that overweight people are worst off for offsprings and health which isn’t a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:21 PM
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My type if I had to come up with one is into fitness or at least health conscious, maybe some interest in sports, some intelligence, doesn’t have to be drop dead gorgeous but somewhat stereo typically attractive, also a decent balance between going out and staying in. In reality, I usually have ended up with or receive attention from women who aren’t very health or fitness driven, lean heavily towards staying in, and generally more intelligent than the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:42 PM
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My issues have always been financial in nature. I’ve struggled my entire life with finances for one reason or another, whether because debt, bad credit, never went to college therefore can’t find high income job, etc. I’ll likely never fully resolve them. In turn, if I was single, I’d have a lot of issues meeting people because I wouldn’t be able to afford all these activities, vacations, etc that people wanna do nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:36 PM
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Because it deserves to be mocked. Look, i don't condone making fun of the way people look, but holy shit, we shouldn't be celebrating it, it's unhealthy as fuck It shouldn’t be mocked but it definitely needs to not be celebrated either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:45 PM
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Social media wasn’t just the worst thing to ever happen to dating, it was the worst thing to ever happen to social structures, society, and mental health to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:42 PM
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every single woman who's ever had casual sex will find you unattractive No women outside of sex work or financial compensation is having sex unless some kind of attraction is involved, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:41 AM
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You still have to do something, there are enough attractive guys that you still need to stand out in other ways. This is correct. Competition is fierce and simply being attractive isn’t enough. What if said attractive person has bad hygiene, predatory behavior, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:33 AM
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Muscle weighs more than fat, so regardless, even if not “muscular”, they may have muscle which will influence BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:51 AM
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I don’t think high value females created the “body positivity” moment to deter low value females from bettering themselves just to weed our competition. However, I do think it was created partially in order to drive sales in a market which is increasingly becoming “larger” in terms of size, weight, etc. See, the rising obesity numbers in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:28 PM
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Are you ok? Not all relationships are disasters for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:32 PM
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I wouldn’t say so. Her work life comes first while she’s at work, for the most part the relationship becomes first when she gets home
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:32 PM
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This is me also, I can be incredibly social, the life of the party, etc but the next day, I need to recharge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:06 PM
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I would like to think I’m well enough off mentally to know if it was a living nightmare or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:05 PM
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I’m not suffering, I’m in a long term relationship and have been for several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:43 PM
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I’m a male and I’ve never even remotely tried to make the mental gymnastics for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:41 PM
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It’s the same as it’s always been. Cold approaching is only tolerated if you’re considered attractive, otherwise it’s insulting/creepy/etc. Society continues to evolve and shut out people who didn’t hit the generic lottery or those who don’t have the ability to improve enough to be considered attractive. I think the extremes are more extreme now. In a post pandemic world, cold approaches will likely be less successful since the world has been forced to reconsider how public interactions work. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:44 PM
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Are we even having this discussion? You can’t compare domestic violence, sexual assault, etc to a women’s “looks” in the workplace for advantages and possible men acting irrationally because of said looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:37 PM
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Hey props to you then. Glad it’s working successfully for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:28 PM
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I rather be with a woman that has no job There’s no chance you truly believe this. I was with you on the “career women make bad partners” to an extent because I’ve lived that scenario. However, my SO now has a masters now and is a school councilor, she has no issue putting the relationship first the second she gets home. Some days are admittedly harder than others depending on the work load but she always does her best to put the relationship to #1 on priority list.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:06 AM
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men can learn to treat women like regular people first I can’t speak for the guy you’re actually replying too but the male bashing in this sub is insane. The majority of men likely are not treating women like objects, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:11 AM
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Completely ineffective if you are average/below average looking Solid point that is missed with most “advice” threads, etc. If you’re not physically attractive in some capacity, nothing other than potentially copious amounts of money will fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:05 AM
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women have a hard time having an amazing sex life with a cute man they’re beginning to resent. I think it’s the same with both genders. Man/Woman will tolerate Man/Woman longer if they’re attractive and sex is good compared to if they aren’t and sex isn’t good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:53 AM
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There's no way to really tell. I have to imagine it's 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:35 PM
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I was young one more time, I matured eventually lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:49 PM
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Whether it's relevant or not, very few of my friends would ever be caught on reddit, not their scene, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:48 PM
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So? I don't think he gives the slightest fuck about the quality of women he gets if it's about getting laid. If he's not seeing them beside all of that, there's literally no reason to care I don't vouch for this at all. Even if I'm single and if I'm going through a casual getting laid only phase, I'm definitely not sticking my dick in crazy, etc. too old to just be fucking anything that moves anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:43 PM
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That makes more sense then. I couldn't see myself being involved with anybody under 23 at this point, ESPECIALLY under 21, can't even drink legally? No chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:39 PM
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I mean, I'm sure your viewpoint is valid in plenty of situations as well. I can only go by my experiences of friends of mine who fit the example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:37 PM
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some older men are looking for younger women because they have more time to bear more children In my case, I'm 30 and not single but if I was to begin dating again tomorrow for example, as much as I would prefer to date around my own age because of maturity, experience, etc, 28-32ish, I probably would date down a little to ages 25, 26, etc, just because I do want kids some day but I'm still in no rush to have them. From what I've gathered and this is total anecdotal evidence, most single women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:12 PM
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younger woman/older man combo Most times I've seen this combo, the female is beautiful and the guy is average at best, but you do a little detective work, you find out, around the time they started dating, she was below average for whichever reason and he was more in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:07 PM
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I think men predominantly want younger women because they are inexperienced and the man can get away with being a bigger asshole without being called out on it because the girl doesn't know any better. I don't feel this is mostly true anymore. I'm sure in some situations it is but not universally. Most guys I know in their early 30s generally go for women in their mid 20s because they find them more attractive, it's as simple as that. Also, probably lesser chance of having kids is probably a plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:05 PM
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The only "older" guys college girls are going for are the ones who either A. Aged nicely or look good to begin with or B. Have good income/status/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:57 PM
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I’m attempting to disprove someone’s point, what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:57 AM
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I don't quite understand the prevalence of married cheating. It seems more common than casual relationship/pre married cheating. While I understand what the underlying reasons may be. It's gotta be so much harder to lead that double life while living with your significant other, etc. yet I feel like I've seen more cheating or willingness to cheat from married couples more than non married
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:41 AM
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All my friends think he is being weak While I'm 100% sure this isn't the majority of women, the idea that enough women do have this mentality and are very vocal about it is why TRP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:39 AM
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The 6'0" height alone gets you matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:35 AM
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at bars As ironic enough that many OLD swipes probably end up in a bar to meet up. Cold approaching at a bar itself in today's world minus the pandemic is such an awkward experience because women seem to be preconditioned to be very defensive especially in a group with her friends. Personally for me, I only used OLD to literally start initial contact and nothing else, but then I cut right to the chase and said something along the lines of, I'm not going to spend countless days just bullshitting …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:23 AM
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enough tech for sex robots which would equalize the sex market back to normal I actually don't think sex robots, etc will equalize anything for men. If anything, you're just further removing yourself from the "sexual marketplace". It'll just occupy the guys who likely were the bottom 50% to begin with therefore weren't with women regardless. The top 20% of guys may or may not have one but they'll still get laid with the females they pick and choose, obviously with her consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:14 AM
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return to your incel caves after you've worked like dogs for 40 hours a week. no sex for you, just work until your dead What even is your post about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 04:11 AM
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most of the things guys do to impress women are pretty lame Also, I've had and seen success by literally doing nothing but just being myself and having fun out and about. Women can sense "trying too hard" from miles away somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:39 AM
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A lot of relationships start out as "flirty friendships," but there is usually some sexual tension that is always there. I don't know any actual relationships or even friends with benefits that didn't start with some sort of sexual tension, even as platonic friends. Anecdotally, I've had a few friendships with females that had no sexual tension aspect whatsoever that seemed to "appear" after several nights out with them socially. So either, A: That attraction was always actually there or B: Seei…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:38 AM
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Maybe not the same thing, but women who chase status, which sometimes means chasing thrill which I feel like has them ending up right in the view of red pill dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:13 PM
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Theoretically, Trump could activate his base to go against websites like OF, especially the incel base.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:08 PM
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Personally. I'm just jealous of the people who are making more than I make in a year in a month on Onlyfans. No hate whatsoever, glad it works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:26 PM
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I said females care about it for males, guys don't care about a chick's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 12:18 PM
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Confidence and looks together is what attracts the casual sex crowd if you're a male trying to attract a female. Looks and status is what attracts the casual sex crowd if you're a female trying to attract a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:48 PM
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My "dream girl", MAYBE, and that's a hard maybe. If a girl makes this a hard rule to me, it's likely not going to work. A month? Probably, but three months, likely pass. I'm not knocking them for it but it's a no go for me personally because sexual activity is an important part of a possible relationship. I personally wouldn't want to commit three months of dates, money, time, etc and then find out we're sexually incompatible, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:26 AM
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I almost wonder too though if the female is trying to keep her options open and play the field a little. Let's be honest, if this thread was guys keeping his girlfriend secret, everyone would say he's trying to flirt around, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 07:30 PM
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I don't see how people are equating age with height. You can't help height but you can definitely choose to not be involved with someone based on age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:57 PM
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At any given time, an "attractive" man or woman can upload a photo to Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, online dating, etc. and can receive tons of likes from it, comments, DMs, whatever. Some people are so thirsty that they like everything and anything in an attempt to get nudes, get laid, etc. This makes somebody feel overly attractive, raises their self esteem, etc. this person may very well not be as high SMV as they now think they are and they'll now start ignoring those they deem "under them".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:39 PM
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Maybe I just lucked out, my girlfriend's n count is less than 10, mine is around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:57 PM
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If you want to cold approach nowadays, you absolutely need to be the whole package. It will never work unless you're fit, well groomed, and attractive. I don't care how suave you are, girls are downright hostile to approaches and the only way to mitigate that hostility is if you got a lot going on. For most normal guys, their avenues to meet women irl and build a rapport are decreasing due to our weird ass social media culture You pretty much nailed it. The way the culture, at least in the US is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:21 AM
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Thinking back on it, WoW, a lot of WoW and other various activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:52 AM
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I never drank until my 21st birthday, by 24, I was too experienced haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:25 AM
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Social media did more to ruin relationships than OLD did if you're asking my opinion. Instant gratification culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:11 PM
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Women think this because all the attractive men who want a LTR are already in one This or because they get rejected by the Chads/Brads/etc they want because they're not as attractive as they think they are because they likely got gassed up by less desirable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 01:54 AM
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Could it be that 18-24 is just the new 15-19 age bracket? In a way, kinda. Maybe 18-21 mostly. It seems as I watch others in public settings that there's a lot more social awkwardness, etc in younger people now. It's not so much like they've been sheltered but just never learned how to properly be in social settings, talk to the opposite sex, etc. I like to people watch at the bar sometimes and the amount of guys I watch who can't handle their alcohol, have awful body language, terrible conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:37 AM
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I think every case is different. Even though I'm not single now, I'm definitely hitting my peak SMV in my opinion (if I needed to use it). I'm 30 years old, I'm in shape, I eat healthy, good upbringing, good social skills, stay home/go out balance, etc. My only "flaw" is I'm not in great financial shape, I made bad choices when younger, but that's likely not affecting me if I'm just looking for one night stands if I can fake it to make it. If just physically, I was in this shape now when I was 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:52 PM
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I only have two friends who are in their mid to late 30s, both their fiances are early 30s, so a 4-5 year gap. Those two same friends used to sleep around in the mid 20s age range until they met their now future wives. Just anecdotal evidence, I don't think most mid to late 30s could routinely pull mid 20s women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:42 PM
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to pretend that only 5% of men are having casual sex is delusional. As a guy, I see a LOT of guys out there publicly with zero social skills particularly around women, excessive amounts of awkwardness, bad body language, etc. I don't know what in culture and life has changed that so much but I think it's led to the OP's notion that "undesirable" men are flooding the OLD game because it looks "safe"; excluding the chad types who very likely are just looking to grab some nudes or get laid. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:04 PM
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This subject also totally depends on where you live. For example, if you’re a revolutionary leftist living in a conservative stronghold, you’re likely not slaying left and right unless you’re above average attractiveness or you’ve found a group of likeminded people to move around in. And likely vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:10 AM
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I feel like it's pretty common for both genders to date someone in their 30s if they're still in their 20s, it would seem both genders hate their dating pool within 2-3 years of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:04 PM
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more conceited and status driven I can't disagree. Conceited is hit or miss, but definitely status driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:01 AM
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Social media has ruined relationships overall, everything is about instant gratification now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:21 PM
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The period of time in a woman's life where she successfully exploits her sexual value and maximizes her hypergamous tendencies by having sex with as many alphas as possible Honestly I think this exists for both genders. I had a phase where I wanted to just sleep around, I'm sure many other dudes have/had it, and I'm sure females although more quietly have it also.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:36 PM
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I have a few female friends that there is zero percent chance anything ever comes out of it, that’s platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:40 PM
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I think legalizing prostitution may help. If you could regularly, legally and safely pay to smash 10's IRL, you would have a lot less guys obsessing over 7's and 6's on Instagram and Tinder If we could also get guys to stop being so socially awkward and hyping up every female ever because they said hi, that'd help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:28 PM
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most of those very attractive men can get consistent sex so there’s no need for a relationship. Not entirely true. I'm considered attractive by most accounts, but after a while, "playing the game" gets old and you prefer a relationship, aka me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:48 PM
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It also helps my girlfriend and I have similar interests when it comes to the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:18 PM
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100% of the time, relationship sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:19 AM
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The main thing that's ridiculous is giving someone shit for something they have no control over. You can fix weight/fitness, you can attempt to fix up your hair, skin, clothes, etc. I can't grow magically a few more inches height wise. I'm 5'8, it's JUST tall enough, I've only had one woman personally reject me for my height that I can remember and she was like 6'0 so I guess I get it. My girlfriend is 5'0 so my height is just fine for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:37 PM
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Unfortunately this is the majority of women. They say they want egalitarianism but would never be happy supporting a man in the same way they expect to be supported, such as being a stay at home parent. The moment women begin.to earn more than their men, the risk of divorce begins to increase I can't disagree with any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:18 AM
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I suppose I’ll find out, my girlfriend finished her masters shortly after we started dating, I jumped right into the workforce after high school, we’ve been together a year and a half, she’ll always be the more successful one financially, I’ve accepted that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 09:12 AM
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When men say they are don't care about women's education level or career success, it doesn't mean they want someone completely vapid. It just means they are perfectly fine with a woman who is of average intelligence and average ambition as long as she is a good person and not hideous to look at. She absolutely doesn't need to be supermodel level in looks. "Not fat" will usually suffice. Took most of the words out of my mouth. Me personally, a woman "married" to her career would be a non-starter …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:35 PM
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A woman that focused on her career probably has good chances to find a great husband with similar traits Disagree. Two career focused individuals will have a horrible marriage because they'll be more worried about money than quality of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:59 PM
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I'd say the 21-25 range is most "desirable" stereotypically, however, at 30 now myself, I seem to find more women I would consider attractive in the 28-32 range. Immaturity is a turnoff, and nowadays, the women under 25 are a mess mentally when it comes to communication, attitudes, wants, etc. at least in my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:47 PM
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if a guy in his 30’s was sleeping with, or harassing, a female family member that was 18 or 19 These are two different things. Sleeping with is implying consent, harassing is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:04 AM
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I just wish every man would go gay or date men, instead of trying to lure and sleep and use and insult and bother women Sexist much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:03 AM
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Dating websites especially Tinder should be required in whatever fashion to remove bots, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:48 AM
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Brb, writing a documentary with that name
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:48 PM
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Well maybe /r/socialism does, they're pretty stupid that way. No that isn’t a thing. Nobody believes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:07 PM
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the majority of their time in their mom’s basement playing video games instead of being social and active. I will say this, people, not just men can do whatever they set their mind to within reason. I currently live at home because I hit a very rough financial patch, but that's after being on my own for the majority of my 20s. However, I work two jobs, am involved with political activism, go to the gym 4 days a week and considered in shape, maintain social and personal relationships, and play so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:03 PM
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Post Malone is an example of money/fame/status for sure. If he was a nobody and approached women on the street, he would get rejected 98/100 times
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:59 PM
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Actually millennial women outearn men I knew I needed to make a premium Snapchat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:08 PM
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At least with height you could argue strength... How does height correlate with strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 10:58 PM
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I can’t even argue with this CMV. I see my female friends on my FB all the time sharing screenshots of guys in their inboxes with hideous pickup attempts and/or immediate dictures. So it waters down the quality of men out there and makes a lot of us look terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:58 PM
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I'm still waiting for FDS to be quarantined as it rightfully should be, especially when it's just female TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:10 AM
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I’m 5’8, I would consider myself maybe top 25%, the rest I qualify for. However, I know I’m no Chad and I’m ok with it. I knew that years ago because I was short and wasn’t blessed with amazing genetics, busted my ass in the gym for years to get to where I’m at. All about being modest and realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:05 PM
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People on this sub thinks all a relationship is about is sex. Do you really believe that? Yes sex is highly important in making physical and mental connections with someone but to say that’s all the sub cares about is a bit much imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:25 PM
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invest porn I know what you meant but congratulations you just created a new type of financial porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:19 PM
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Some “games” are fine but at the end of day, everyone needs to be upfront. That’s why dating is difficult for a lot of people, intentions aren’t clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:21 PM
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in your 30s, your social circles start to become way more couple-oriented This is already well in progress. The majority of my close friends and myself are in serious relationships and/or married. I probably only have three close friends who are single I could call up on a given weekend and be like "hey let's go drink and see what we can get into" All three for the most part have their lives together, 1 is socially awkward around women, the other 2 don't want to settle down yet. As for my girlfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:41 PM
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Personally, being 29, almost 30, I can now officially say I'm bored of the game. I had my fun throughout my 20s, but now being in a LTR and most of my close friends are now married or also are in serious relationships with marriage potential, that drive to just go out and "play the field" is pretty much dead. I rather travel and make memories with my significant other before we go down the road of marriage, kids, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:20 PM
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Men in their early 30s who are fit and have a full head of hair are still "young" It's a mindset too partially. At basically 30, (bday in a few months), I'm more fit and in tune with myself now than I was at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 07:16 PM
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Unfortunately, it would seem a lot of men are starting to grow up socially awkward for whatever reason so a female being "nice" to them is like pre-sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:41 AM
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I think it has something to do with dominance. It has everything to do with dominance. I do believe even women who claim to not “like” dominance will like it subconsciously to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:27 PM
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No woman is ever going to say "well I guess my boyfriend sucking dicks isn't so bad after all". You’re right unless they secretly want a threesome, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 06:22 PM
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and the ones that usually are, are trash. It's harsh but true A little bit of a stretch don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:59 PM
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I’ve reported FDS, because if TRP and MGTOW is quarantined, so should FDS but they ignored my request
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:34 AM
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Don’t take it for granted. I miss 9-5 hours and most places outside of white collar jobs don’t offer it. Since then I’m on average working until from anywhere from 10pm to 3am at night.
/r/askTRP30/01/20 08:30 PM
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In real life the majority of men want to date around in their 20s and get married later. Truth. As I turn 30 this year, I want to start traveling and getting in memories in now with my girlfriend before we hopefully start having kids in the next five years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 07:19 PM
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if your mindset is on progression, you will progress. If you were looking to placate your SO and get "the milk for free" you will fail because you designed it to fail. It’s as simple as this really
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:14 AM
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I like thick women. My girlfriend would be considered thick, she is not fat by any means, she wouldn’t be everybody’s cup of tea but body wise, she’s mine. She eats healthy and is mostly active, so all three of these things together, it’s great for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:12 AM
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I could never creampie a female I’m not in a LTR with for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:02 AM
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Personally I would wait three dates but if a female says non negotiable three months before sexual activity, it’s a no go for me, more power to her, I’m not mad at her, etc but sexual compatibility is a big deal for me and I rather not commit three months to someone just to find out then that we have completely opposite sexual interests, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:58 AM
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Women don’t make men wait if they really want them sexually. You become the “accident” the “I never normally do this” if you’re sufficiently exciting. The only guys women make wait are the guys they’re planning to fleece. This is so spot on. Literally all three of my serious relationships I’ve had in my life; We started our sex life with “I don’t normally do this so soon” Provided it was established from the start that the ladies and myself were all looking for LTRs since I met all three on OLD.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:12 AM
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Same, I’m with you man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:55 AM
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Porn will just continue to evolve along with sex bots
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:45 AM
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The s word?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:11 PM
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I assume this beautiful face is without make up also. I’ll take the face and average body. I don’t mind some thickness on my women anyway, not obese though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:57 PM
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initiates contact How is that low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:53 PM
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starts gaining too much weight, or loses his job, or stops generally being an awesome dude. It's what you would expect to happen right? No I don’t, this was one of the ultimate things I never agreed with TRP on. Does this happen? Absolutely but I simply cannot believe this is the norm. There’s no way every female who hits a rough patch with her husband goes “well time to get my fix elsewhere”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:51 PM
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I’d say probably half would be “below my league”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:48 PM
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If the guy is super attractive, it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:55 AM
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How quickly people there recommend "nexting" a girl over every little "red flag" as if every guy has an endless supply of girls in their lives This was one of the first things that made me look at the TRP and go what? After I got out of my anger at women phase in life. “Your girl had a bad day because her boss yelled at her?, well you see, AWALT, she’s probably fucking some other dude now, NEXT”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:52 AM
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Fairly common, in most friend “groups” I’m involved in, someone has hooked up with someone else in that group, some of them are fwb also.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:31 AM
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Well I learned something today, all the power to ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:58 AM
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How do you bang anyone? You basically are exclusive to non religious conservatives which is rare in its own, then your “defined by me” tastes in music.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:56 AM
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What I’ve learned from this thread is some of you have obscure standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:31 AM
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That is an incredible list of turn offs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:27 AM
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No books in his house This is what people are calling deal breakers now? I know you’re married so irrelevant point but I couldn’t imagine being like oh you don’t read, you’re out of here. Also, this is so unlike your other deal breakers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:20 AM
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Can we source that please?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:18 AM
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At this point in my life, probably 4 out of 5 times, it’s to actually meet someone, test compatibility, see if LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:31 PM
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Depends on the guy, the environment, his intention, his state of mind, etc. no two situations are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:24 PM
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Glad you’re doing better for yourself OP
/r/TheRedPill09/01/20 10:22 PM
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A lot of coworkers make sexual jokes to each other, that’s why harassment training exists
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:17 PM
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Her definition of “wrong” aka, not the 10/10 Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:14 PM
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knowing you’re only valued for sex by men Come on, don’t give me that. Do we want sex, duh, so do females but it’s not our sole purpose in life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:12 PM
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talking to a women without her permission is now considered a hate crime What? How is that even legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:20 PM
1

An anti male sub trying to masquerade as female improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:57 PM
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TRP is just extremist level male improvement and trying to get laid. FDS is blatantly anti male
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:55 PM
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The goal of a man is to escape the permanent childhood that's been planted in your heart and planned since you were born, and to find a way to create. And then protect what you create I gotta say, that’s pretty correct
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:57 PM
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Sexual things is exclusively the same as intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:58 AM
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prepared to indicate consent or lack thereof. I feel like this is the perfect argument to OP. Nothing outside of literal consent can be substituted for consent unless obvious things are happening, like clothes being removed, she puts it in herself, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:44 AM
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This is why I try to stay in good shape and have broad-ish shoulders, because I can’t help my height but I can take the role of protector in a female’s eye if need be. Also I don't quite understand the obsession with tall guys like over 6’, where it would seem most women are 5’5 and under. I’m 5’8 on the dot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:55 AM
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I don’t understand how people even really meet on fetlife outside of their group meetups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:31 AM
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Being bought a drink is way different than physical contact in sexual nature such as dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:25 AM
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this woman's hair I don’t usually like short hair on females but I like that, at least on that lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:27 AM
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Obviously if I had a wife of 10 years I wouldn’t divorce her over her cutting her hair, however if she did it to fend off creeps from work, I’d be curious about why this is the 1st time I’m hearing about it and if she’s went to her HR about it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:22 AM
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It’s a horrible move, I feel for the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:06 AM
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not accept drinks other dudes buy for them Personally I don’t care if a guy wants to buy my girl drinks, but some of it has to be on her to shut it down when the time comes. It’s all trust in the end I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:06 AM
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Literally said the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:01 AM
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I’ve unfortunately experienced the opposite a lot. If my girlfriend didn’t want to go out, I was expected to just stay home, that never flew with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:00 AM
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I can’t believe OP’s friend took his date to a Chad’s house to fuck, surely he knew what’s going on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:57 AM
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I just don’t think either gender is likely to have a history of no casual sex in today’s day and age
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:32 AM
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I’d say it depends on the rejection also. If someone simply says I’m not interested because x legitimate reason, fine. Now if they go, “you short fuck think you had a chance with me, go back to your cave troll”, something like that, that’s quite unnecessary but it’ll likely kill someone’s self esteem assuming they’re prone to that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:44 PM
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That isn’t true, I’m not a 9 or a 10, probably a 7. I actually have to make effort to talk to people and I’m terrible at approaching. But yet here I am with all the optimism in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:43 PM
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A good amount of guys probably wouldn’t care, all they likely see is mature women, experienced sex, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:15 AM
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He's done with women I sympathize with your friend but he’s also part of the smaller problem, dudes just give up and hermit crab themselves and let sketch women run the show
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:14 AM
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dating other guys Young
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:12 AM
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being accused of a crime they didn't commit. This infuriates me to no end and the system is so flawed, it’s guilty until proven innocent in the male’s case. The penalty for lying about sexual assault should harsher than if you actually did it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:10 AM
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Some people suck at being married like they suck at everything else. Very to the point but probably not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:58 AM
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Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:57 AM
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Petition for OLD to now mean Omnipresent Lame Dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:25 PM
0

Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:24 PM
2

Online Dating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:09 PM
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questionable hygiene or poor wardrobe choices, it's just a bio + a picture. You could probably infer wardrobe choices from OLD, but obviously not hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:59 PM
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Body positivity movements aren’t healthy, it’s glorifying obesity and unhealthy life styles. It’s ok to not be shaped like a model or be “average”, it isn’t ok to be obese, etc,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:46 PM
3

Do people native to Brazil want to leave that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:42 PM
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Always wanted to go to Denver, I hear it’s also the most active city in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:41 PM
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I think status in the US trumps looks but ever so slightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:39 PM
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FDS is literally an anti men sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:01 PM
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Elderly sure. In today’s world, no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:59 PM
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Then I do wonder how long it would have taken us to get to this pseudo male female civil war.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:52 AM
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I’m amazed by the amount of negativity in this thread. This is black pill at its worst. Literally dozens of dudes complaining that it takes some effort to meet people let alone females. Are people really happy like this? I’ve become more introverted as I’ve gotten older but at no time in my life have I ever said “meeting people is too hard, I’m gonna stay home” Gentlemen, I’m gonna need you guys to find some ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:51 AM
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OLD along with social media has ruined dating for everyone but more male than female and personally none of the pills would have never existed, at least in the limelight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:07 AM
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FDS is anti-male trying to masquerade as women “dating and self improvement” advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:03 AM
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Honestly probably dudes of average quality trying to get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:56 AM
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This is because most 7-10s don’t get approached so there’s more receptive. The 4-6s get approached all the time and because of OLD, their heads are much larger. Don’t get it twisted though, most likely if an “average” guy approaches a 9, he’s not getting anywhere either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:47 AM
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Yeah if they’re using an ex as an excuse, most of the time, it ended up being the fault of the accuser
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:09 PM
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Charlotte is starting to become an expensive shitshow, the women there think they’re gifts to the Earth because the city is growing exponentially and a lot of residents came from the bigger cities than that.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/20 08:12 AM
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guys who think they're entitled to pussy and can't take no for an answer. What if she says not now maybe later, I’m sure that happens plenty, so then because she gave a wishy washy answer, he tries later, then she does it, is that still coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:07 AM
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calling for the purposeful aborting of male fetuses The outrage at this would literally break male and female relations as we know it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:47 AM
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TRP, MGTOW and incels will become much more mainstream Absolutely agree with the incel part, they’re going to be the ones primarily committing mass murders as a form of revenge, we’re already seeing bits and pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:44 AM
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been born when I was. When was this out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:29 AM
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I stand corrected then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:22 AM
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I’m almost 30, I personally couldn’t get involved with anyone under 21 personally, because I would want to be able to go places with them. Also, I was pretty much a complete outcast and not social at all until 23, I wouldn’t say incel but I don’t have any teen obsessions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:16 AM
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Just remember, nobody would bat an eye if it was a 18yr old guy and a 26 year old female
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:13 AM
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FDS treats the majority of men as low value based off of what I can tell and in such is the precursor to men going MGTOW. And while we’re on the subject of blanket statements, you are likely aware that only a small subset of TRP openly advocates predatory behavior as you’re describing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:29 PM
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That FDS sub is literally more hateful then TRP is, and quite frankly if TRP is quarantined, so should FDS, and maybe even MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:35 PM
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Do women understand how awful they are to "undesirable" men? Most probably don’t until it happens to them in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:35 AM
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I on the other hand think men are inferior completely, I think feminists are naive in thinking men could ever care beyond their own dicks and pockets If a male said this about females, he would get trashed to no end. Regardless, nobody likes a bitter and bias soul
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:32 AM
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Chad was born that way (probably brought up in a healthy family, etc Is that some people’s idea of “Chad”? Healthy upbringing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:29 AM
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If women really wanted to eliminate TRP, and if men wanted to eliminate extreme feminists or maybe FDS, both genders would quit playing games and just be honest with themselves and others about what they want, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:24 AM
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I really want to see some of these tinder profiles that are always successful, I want to see what their bios look like, what the guy looks like, his pics, etc. I always hear these examples, I never see them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 07:10 PM
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I can’t even with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 11:56 PM
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the average number of Tinder matches for men was 111, the average number for women was 124 Do these numbers not sound silly to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 11:54 PM
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Anything that involves “playing hard to get”, aka acting uninterested for the hell of it, waiting to text back, etc It’s childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 11:47 PM
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Good job guys, it was fun
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 11:44 PM
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Hi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:07 PM
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I clicked this very reluctantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:21 PM
3

This is the king purge thread lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:17 PM
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You know what, I can’t disagree with this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:16 PM
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Just visited FDS, holy hell, it’s worse than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:11 AM
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Well I hope people don’t go to the strip club to try and date Gypsy or Sky
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:08 PM
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hopes of getting sex and/or a relationship That’s the point of OLD though to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:02 PM
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I’m not saying you didn’t have horrible experiences, I’m sure there’s far more female horror stories than male. Those are indeed YOUR experiences. What I took issue with is the automatic assumption is that any and all men will either “show true colors” or start attacking you because either you rejected him or x and y other reason. If I get rejected, it’s alright, onto the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:58 PM
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What I meant is that I imagine most women would want an exclusive manwhore in not so many words, some guy who would give them the best sex they’ve had
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:16 PM
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tinder and online dating sites I disagree. You should blame social media and instant gratification culture. OLD is just an attempt to modernize with the times and unfortunately monetize off of those with less luck in the face to face scene for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:08 AM
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I absolutely agree happy and healthy relationships happen from all walks in life and from all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:05 AM
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Depends on the person. Every serious relationship I’ve ever had has been off of Okcupid specifically. Also I know of two engaged couples from Hinge. There’s merit to using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:03 AM
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How long until this otherwise decent dude acts like a prick? How long until the next entitled, obnoxious random calls you a fat cunt because you didn't respond fast enough? How is this approach fair at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:35 AM
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TRP and Seddit overlap but different end goals, it isn’t fair to bundle them both together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:22 AM
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Sometimes a guy who used to like casual sex and liked sluts starts wanting a relationship and starts not liking sluts. It's not that difficult to understand. Hi it’s me. My n count isn’t stupid high but after 2 or 3 years of partying, etc. some relationships mixed in that I admit I could have been better in in terms of working through issues, I’ve taken all I learned and I actually rather find a good relationship now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:41 AM
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I think that most heterosexual men wish for a woman who is a high libido bedroom fiend, but just for them, an exclusive monogamous slut. Not incorrect but at the same time, the inverse is probably true for women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:38 AM
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You aren't being seen by potential matches. You don't get enough attention or chances. The amount of truth here stings a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:04 AM
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the best looking men on OLD are mostly just using it to try to find casual sex. Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:01 AM
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But if he wasn't famous, I would never let him touch me Amazing what money will allow people to do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:49 AM
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OLD is a clusterfuck for men because of a mixture of dudes who wouldn’t normally need it just go on there trying to get laid and it ruins it for those ladies who would be decent options otherwise and ruins it for guys who are actually trying to meet women to form LTRs with. I simply cannot agree that dating for women is hard in general though. Women have endless options on OLD let alone in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:39 AM
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When you say condom jar, is it literally a clear job where condoms are visible or just a jar that happens to have them in it?
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:38 AM
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At the end of the day, you're not inviting anyone over to play Chutes and Ladders Thank you for this comment, I don’t know why but it made me laugh out loud.
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:37 AM
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I’ll be fair, I can’t judge intelligence in a lot of these situation, but pretty and non fat, yes. The whole “act like a thug” nonsense is in, at least in where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:39 PM
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people in Africa who have to avoid warlord and struggle to find their next meal I get what you’re saying and don’t get me wrong this is tragic but you know as well as I do how irrelevant their situation is to people in the US as a whole, let alone to the people beating on their chests in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:33 PM
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Have you seen many low lives with intelligent, not-fat and pretty girlfriends Many? No but personally I see it a decent amount in my area also.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:50 PM
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I do wonder what my success would look like with a more foreign pool of women but I’ve never been out of country nor do I have plans to move out of country, more of a curiosity thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:47 PM
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I’ve used more PUA than RP in my day to day usage. I just rather find a good relationship but I’ve used basic RP principles just to keep my own goals and focuses in front of me and not get caught up in chasing. PUA books helped with this also
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:40 PM
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You have every right to feel that way, your situation sounds very unfortunate and I sympathize with you. However.... First, source on your thousands of rape kits sitting in storage and self reporting domestic abusers. Also, blissfully unaware would assume I’m just so wonderfully cheerful about your situations while being uninformed. Am I uniformed? Possibly, but cheerful and blind, that’s false. You lose credibility when you begin going off on the “there’s a problem and it’s not women” mindset. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 02:16 PM
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We want to stop living in fear of abuse, assault, stalking, rape, and murder. I’m all about being “empowered” even if I disagree with the method being used, but this statement is certainly exaggerated. We live in a 1st world country assuming you live in the US, Canada, UK, etc. Do awful things happen? Absolutely and unfortunately but to take this stance as if you’re living a daily life of fear, is unfair as you’re making a blanket statement against all men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:56 AM
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I am
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:15 AM
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If you're looking for someone also in their 30s, you're not likely to find this full package. I don’t feel this is too impractical, is it the majority? I’m sure not, but rare? Also likely not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:48 AM
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Well, to be nice is different than what we conceive as blue pill which is being a push over generally, at least in TRP world
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:03 AM
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Can’t tell if troll or not. Your advice is why dudes give up and just stay in their house all the time. Automatically assuming the guy who gets a reply is a beta orbiter? Telling people dating doesn’t exist anymore? Don’t message a woman unless it’s only to get nudes? Going out to eat with a girlfriend means you’re a beta sucker? What kind of off the deep end logic is this. This is the kind of TRP advice that’s totally unhelpful and gives the whole “movement” a bad rap amongst other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:12 PM
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I don’t even remember how I found TRP and while I did hit a phase where I read the stuff, slightly agreed with some of it, but in the end, i was bitter over a failed relationship and I did back off of it because it’s a little hyperbole for my liking. There are some decent concepts in there but all in all, it’s not for me. I do believe still there’s good women in the world that are legit dating prospects, I don’t believe every chick would cheat if she had the opportunity, however, bettering yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:42 PM
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Technically luck could occur. Let’s say an attractive women is getting message bombed and she’s so over it that she doesn’t even bother looking at any of them and yours is one of them, a legitimate attempt to make a connection and form a relationship. Something tells the girl to make a quick scroll down just for shits and giggles, she picks a few to look at, yours happens to be one of them, boom, she likes what she sees, fast forward a few months and you’re dating. You got lucky she didn’t simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:36 PM
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Are people really saying if you’re a male who regularly use social media that it’s a red flag? Aren’t we jumping to some major conclusions here? So what if I want to post photos of what my friends and I are doing on Instagram, or promote a new bar/etc on my story so people I know can check it out. What if I use it just to share memes that I find amusing, etc. The point is, if a male/female using social media in itself is a red flag, there’s other problems at play here. permalinks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:30 PM
1

What is a love bomber?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:22 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood but thinking more on the point, it could any way really. I can see the argument for less attractive or more attractive having a 64 body count
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:18 PM
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If she has twice your n-count, she is roughly your looksmatch. Therefore, yes, she is practically out of your league Based off of what? My n count is 32, so women in my league are likely having slept with 64 dudes? That seems a bit far fetched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:34 PM
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but the main thing that no one seems to bring up is the fact that okcupid has always been a dating site for offbeat ugly weirdo theater kid queer poly theythems at worst and like urbane english major hipsters at best?? That’s horribly exaggerated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:33 PM
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Personally, every serious relationship I’ve ever had has come from Okcupid fwiw, I’m considered “attractive” but not overly so, again fwiw Also have had zero success on Tinder, had some success on Hinge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:30 PM
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Men are self-interested in finding the women who make their penises feel the best. That’s only half of it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:24 PM
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https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/the-top-10-happiest-countries-on-earth-according-to-un.html Just a quick google search, obviously I don’t know any of guaranteed either but it’s a common theme I’ve heard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:21 PM
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And when honest men (who would love to be get in a commited relationship and not cheat) complain that the dating scene is hard for them, you disregard their complaint because you've been hurt by lying and cheating fuckboys ? Don't you see that you are just telling them "See ? Lying and cheating and being an asshole gets you plenty of women to fuck" ? When you disregard their complaint, you are basically guilting men in general for the poor choices women make This sums up dating in 2019
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:11 PM
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“ARE” or “will accept”? I’d sleep with a milf but likely not date her unless she’s around my age, 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 10:06 PM
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Wait, haven’t all those countries been voted happiest countries for years in a row?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 09:56 PM
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Mine is set from 22-32 but that’s just me, I’m 29 btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 09:54 PM
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Also guilty, had someone who was great to me and we were mostly compatible but I wasn’t sure if I was ready to settle yet, everything felt too routine, I wondered if I could do better, and I wanted to live it up a little more, likely burned that bridge. It crosses my mind everyday, especially as we’re in the holidays.
/r/seduction24/12/19 08:07 PM
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Sorry I couldn't answer the phone when you called I agree with most of your examples but I don’t see the harm in this one, especially as harmless as you could make this. “My bad, I was in the shower” Etc etc
/r/askTRP23/12/19 07:17 AM
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Gaming is still a hobby to many, myself included. Nobody is chatting up chicks 24/7
/r/askTRP23/12/19 07:13 AM
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Definitely. Any restaurant or service industry job I’ve ever had, half the staff were banging each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:53 AM
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Personally, my issue is, I’ve been trying too hard to get laid and guess what? Zero success haha. When I wasn’t trying, boom here it is. Not gonna lie, Lately, been getting hella jealous when I see guys who I feel I’m more attractive then with their girlfriends who I feel are out of their league to begin with and I’m like damn my luck is awful right now, I also realize that mindset is part of the problem. Some of it probably stems from the fact that a lot of my close friends are starting to eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 03:44 AM
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I don’t know, a pretty face could be a difference between being interested in a chick or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 03:35 AM
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This speaks to me a lot actually. As someone who has been told several times I’ve gotten more attractive as the years have went on thanks to working out, better self care, etc. I still have had issues approaching women at times because I spent a lot of my younger adult life years being unsure of myself and unconfident and women picked up on it, hence rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 01:47 AM
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In theory, if you just take a smaller dose than you mentioned, it’ll give you some of the effect and not kill arousal?
/r/seduction19/12/19 05:20 AM
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I hate to agree but at first glance, I think the same, but you won’t know for sure until you try to get her out somewhere with just you two.
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:57 AM
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Personally, I wouldn’t wait more than a month for a lady for sex. Not because of some pride or some uncontrollable urge to fuck, but if the partner does not know how she feels after 30 days or so probably communicating and spending time together often, then it’s likely not gonna work
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:25 PM
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not gross and you can feed yourself. This alone puts guys probably in the top 50% immediately in my opinion. As a dude who works out regularly and can decently cook, there’s no way I’m not ahead of the curve on the plethora of other guys who are very out of shape and/or can’t cook food outside of a microwave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:20 PM
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I won’t date a guy with High N count and has been around town participating in swinging parties/orgies Define high n count and even if it’s higher-ish, why would it be assumed he’s just having orgies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:12 PM
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High Sex Drive -No history of casual sex -Good looking Exactly, pick two. When I’m committed, I’m loyal and committed, high sex drive and all but I’m sorry, but when I’m single, sometimes casual sex happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:11 PM
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Personally if a LTR wants to know my n count, I’ll tell her if she really wants to know, otherwise I won’t bring it up on my end or hers. On topic wise, initial attraction is number 1, then we begin to dive into personality, and go from there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:03 PM
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Any of these “rules” are just excuses or crutches. If you’re feeling it, do it, if not, don’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 08:58 PM
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Agreed, if I do watch it, it's 99% of the time, amateur or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:49 AM
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I’ve only met these ‘no expectation’ women on vacation where they logically understood some pseudo-relationship was logistically impossible. Or if they're cheating on their significant others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:13 AM
2

Very well spoken reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:07 AM
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Personally, no point is enough because I want to remain healthy and in shape for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:03 AM
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I'd say social media has ruined the majority of dating/relationships. Too much instant gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:20 AM
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She sounds like a crazy bitch to me. Real moral of the story. People watch porn, it's not a problem unless you let it be a problem. She is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:50 AM
1

Some people had shit childhoods. I'd say a lot more than you think. When I was a kid, I hated getting out of bed more than anything and I just wanted to sleep all day and stay in my room. My life only keeps getting better with age. I don't get the hate here for this comment. I much prefer my adulthood than when I was a kid. I had a great childhood internally (family, etc) but socially it was a disaster. But hey I still have my family now but socially, life is 100x better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:31 PM
1

Getting out of bed is less of a necessity; because life just doesn't have that bliss anymore. Your life may not be Groundhog Day but it certainly feels like it. The thrill of living is gone; beaten away by disappointment. This is pretty strong. I have much more pressing issues in life at 29 than I did at 20 but the knowledge I contain, the experiences, my fitness, etc. I wouldn't trade any of that away to be 20 again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:29 PM
2

Height is important to some but I would argue the ability to talk (confidence blended in) and social status trump it. Example, I have several friends who sitting in the 5'5-5'6 range, full of confidence and can moderately talk it up with anyone, also well known around town, for one reason or another. Guess what? if it's their goal for the night, they can get laid with little effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:08 AM
1

I had to take 1.75g of Phenibut before I could notice any difference in my social activity. However, for me personally, taking over 2.5g made zero difference. I'm thinking everyone has a sweet spot. So it looks silly, but that's 7 to 10 pills of the 200mg per pill variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:01 AM
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I think we'd all prefer to be in a company of the honest cheaters than dishonest ones I mean yes in theory, but it's basically a band aid on a massive gash mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:58 AM
1

It's a slippery slope. What if I'm drugged and for some reason I end up cheating on my significant other and totally incapable of remembering any of it or controlling my actions, now what? Is it still my fault? However if I just drank myself into being blackout and I cheat, now nobody cares anymore and it's "my fault" Just saying, adding alcohol or substances in general into the conversation makes this conversation real slick real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:56 AM
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If a women doesn't fuck her husband for a year and he fucks his coworker, they're both equally responsible. While he is responsible for the act, she put him on that track. I'd also be curious to know if they discussed why this scenario is even happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:52 AM
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I feel like even a good committed relationship can fulfill the "special requirement" per se. I have three times roughly the n-count as my significant other, yet she initiates more than I do roughly 65/35.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 06:36 AM
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don't pretend it's some innocent curiosity, literally no one in my or my friends experience ever asked it just out of curiosity Anecdotal and an unfair jab. While you’re probably right in your opinion factually, you can’t assume some dudes may simply want to know why, whether it’s for a shitty closure attempt or simply self improvement purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:50 AM
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if a woman says "leave me alone", your "why" would be breaking her boundaries, i.e. harassment. Aren’t we being a little too overdramatic? It’s frowned upon behavior but it’s a simple question, yes poorly executed and short but to call it “harassment”, that’s a stretch. If he grabs you or insults you period whether before or after the initial interaction. THAT’s harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:45 AM
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women arent like males This line could end half the debates in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:42 AM
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That subreddit is cancer to the eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:37 AM
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Are you secure or man enough What a shit way to position a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:32 AM
1

Because most people 65+ are completely helpless? Doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:12 AM
1

Even better, find a lady who likes football
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:11 AM
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You're volunteering to be a sperm donor, free money dispenser, butler and unpaid uber driver to a single mother who makes every parenting decision. That’s a little hyperbole. I lean RP but the idea that circulates that all marriages are just doom waiting to happen is a bit much. I’ve watched my grandparents and parents be happily married for 60 and 30 years respectively. I think this society of “failed marriages” has more to do with the current generation than simply labeling everything as anti …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 08:08 AM
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Because she isnt hot enough It’s interesting because she does “seem” to be attractive but the men she probably wants are the same top percentile men they only go for the same top percentile women. People do this to themselves, people know where they truly sit on a scale and where they THINK they should be, this article writer is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:20 PM
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“Fat women still have more options than fat men” Of course this is true because a lot of the bottom 50% dudes want to bang anything. The exception here might be a very rich fat guy who some 10/10 girl wants to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:13 PM
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I imagine the amount of cases with false claims are probably going up, I don’t have a citation for this so take it for what you will
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:05 PM
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Here is the real point. Wouldn’t you know long before marriage if that person was even fooling around with the idea of polyamory. I’m not marrying someone if they want an open marriage, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:31 PM
1

Kinda open ended to anyone really, particularly those trying to correlate sex on the first date to failed marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:56 PM
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I mean where’s the line here? So what about the 2nd date, or 3rd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:18 AM
1

Actually, mine have too now that I think about it. Either 1st or 2nd date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:15 AM
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Women who've had sex with multiple partners lose their propensity to pair bond Citation? Or is this just opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:12 AM
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Personally, I don’t care if a female has slept around a little, we’re humans. I’m not going to call her a slut, now if her N count is like 50, I may reconsider possible dating potential based on other factors such as STDs, etc. still not a “slut” However for dating, there are double standards. If a female says she wants a 6ft tall guy, his own place, decent job, etc. it’s ok. If a guy says he wants a woman in shape, everyone jumps his ass. There are “preferences” and then there’s double standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:06 AM
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It’s a long post but it’s accurate. I imagine it’s not perfect but I can’t imagine what else teacher age women see in high school guys.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/18 11:27 PM
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I’d say half of “game” is the words being used, the tone, and the body language
/r/askTRP02/11/18 03:49 AM
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I’d say women in their 30s are definitely more horny than women in their 20s but not more than any guy in his prime.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/18 07:10 PM
1

How “very muscular” is the guy OP is talking about?
/r/TheRedPill23/10/18 11:55 PM
1

To each their own, I wouldn't consider you a prude. I've just accepted that likely most people in this generation around me who I would date, etc. (ages 21-31ish?) probably have similar n-counts to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 07:50 PM
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For what purpose? I'm not looking for other people's opinions or ideas, I provided my OWN opinion on what I think others may want. Yes I worded it slightly poorly but doesn't take away the fact at the very least, it's my viewpoint on how I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 07:49 PM
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You keep a man's stomach full and his balls empty and you've won him over. 80% of men dream of this woman. likely not a wrong statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:43 AM
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You mean to tell me a man is going to live a party life surrounded by thots and all of a sudden just be happy with one woman Yes actually because one day most people do want a steady relationship and a lot of people grow out of a potential “whore” phase men and women both
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:41 AM
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I’m a 28 year old male and I’m at 25 n-count, doesn’t feel like a lot at all. I’m friends with people who at least claim to be in the upper double digits and I could believe it based on seeing them with women. Also every serious relationship I’ve ever had, their n-count was somewhere in the 10-20 range. I think both men and women go through “whore” phases where you just get laid plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:35 AM
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Both. Simple as that. Instinctively, they want the “best” for their potential offspring but also want someone who could potentially raise their own “value”
/r/askTRP19/09/18 05:49 PM
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What a surprise, I come up
/r/TheRedPill13/09/18 06:45 PM
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I never understood why women try to rationalize having sex or why they did it. Everyone likes sex, people should act like it, or women anyway should
/r/TheRedPill04/09/18 01:43 AM
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playful teasing to me being unnecessarily mean? They probably think you’re not interested or just an asshole
/r/askTRP01/09/18 05:35 AM
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It sounds like you’re trying to “return the favor” of shit tests to other women like they do/did to you. It’s ok to tease but you eventually gotta make a move.
/r/askTRP01/09/18 04:41 AM
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self esteem on how many women they've put their dick in. It’s crude but in today’s culture, that’s not so abnormal. It may not be the “correct” way to build self esteem but it’s self esteem building I’m sure, especially if your boys are all cheering you on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 07:00 AM
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Can never change a girl's mind" False. You absolutely can change a girl's mind. Can confirm. I’ve banged at least two women who knew me years ago when I didn’t lift, etc. they both even rejected attempts to hook up in the past. Fast forward after three years of lifting, bettering myself, and learning to not give a fuck. One of these women desperately wanted to date me long term, turned her down since she got clingy as fuck after we did hookup, and the other continues to this day to try and call …
/r/TheRedPill28/08/18 04:32 AM
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OP is basically indirectly inspiring people to keep gunning for their RP goals, nothing wrong ‭with that.
/r/TheRedPill26/08/18 07:41 AM
1

I mean hey, it’s better for stamina also. Overall health and fitness should be the goal, not just “lifting”, what good is all that size if you burn out in 2 minutes of ass slamming
/r/askTRP24/08/18 08:01 PM
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teased her hot friend a bit, slighty touching her hips and waist, LTR noticed and grabs my package in the middle of a store telling me I'm in big trouble that night, you know damn well what happened that night. I feel like this honestly this is the exception, not the rule. I expect women to get hella defensive and lose their shit
/r/TheRedPill24/08/18 05:43 AM
1

I also think status can help you a long way also
/r/seduction23/08/18 05:04 AM
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It’s almost scary how true this is
/r/TheRedPill17/08/18 04:11 AM
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It’s unfortunate, this woman was probably a great lay in her early 20s but reality is smacking her in the face and rightfully so, I’ve rarely seen someone so bold in confirming TRP beliefs while playing the woe is me card
/r/TheRedPill17/08/18 04:09 AM
1

Do you have to live in Nevada to get a TAM card?
/r/TheRedPill17/08/18 03:52 AM
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Bingo. If you basically imply you’re gonna have sex but don’t either clarify that you aren’t or you tease it but don’t have it, that’s fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 07:20 AM
1

I slightly cross over into TRP views. So I wonder where a true purple pill person would end up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:47 PM
1

So it's more accurate to say women would turn down a sure thing for a chance at something better. Sad but I would agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:46 PM
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I thought I was a very late Gen X and I’ve heard the term Gen Y before but who knows. I suppose because I seem a little less ridiculous than the normal millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:45 PM
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Just sounds like OP is basically just speaking about hypergamy for both sexes. Yes everyone wants the best they can get, even though they have may have other options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 07:04 AM
1

Ah that’s depressing, day clubbing is something I would want to do in addition to night clubbing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 06:19 AM
1

I always wonder how the alpha/beta divide works in Europe. I feel like I could go to Europe and be a superstar where here in the US, I’m probably a slight tick above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:19 AM
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I don’t consider myself a millennial born in early 1990.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:16 AM
1

What’s Ibiza like? Probably my dream vacation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:14 AM
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Also, find a woman at a bar or club who is trying to rebound from an ex, etc. it’s happened to me at least twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:14 AM
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Bingo. I don’t NEED the best, women seem to DEMAND it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 08:06 AM
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Purple pill, true neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 06:54 AM
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If Henry Cavill approaches MOST women, he’s not getting rejected. But if even he’s worried about being accused of things because of how ridiculous everyone’s oversensitivites have gotten, things have surely gotten grim
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 09:43 PM
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The “rape culture” in the US is definitely overblown, now other countries in the world definitely have an actual rape culture. I’m sorry, if two drunk people CONSENT even while intoxicated, but then one regrets it, that’s not rape and nowadays people are calling that rape too. What’s next? I was half asleep and my girlfriend touched my dick, RAPE! Come on. Too many people want their 15 mins of fame and I doubt they care about the “cause” as much as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:44 AM
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not because they truly want to be treated as equals. Nailed it. Feminism in today’s world is only a buzz word for self serving interests
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:41 AM
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Are we talking about elderly men/women or just anyone “post wall”, so that could also include past 35 men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:45 AM
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This hit home a little because I fit a lot of the “Jack” character listed here. I mostly agree except status and looks could switch places depending on location.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:43 AM
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Spot on. I’m totally content with my invested time being worth it with one person who I can have sex with whenever I please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:45 AM
1

Except it doesn’t work like that probably. I highly doubt the average dude is pulling three plates and she has six. Maybe 1 for the guy and the female could probably have 1-6
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:42 AM
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Depending on the guy, “own interests” equal trying to pick up women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:37 AM
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I’m with this one, this is an absolute no go for me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:54 AM
3

RP: improving oneself BP: pushing for stable relationships and working through things PP: the yin to the yang
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:52 AM
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All of this could be summed up as the idea that most people want to date/fuck on their level or go higher (hypergamy) I would call myself lower 2nd tier or upper 3rd tier and the point resonates with me. If I’m on point, I could pull an upper 2nd tier or flirt with the 1st but if I’m having an off day, I’m probably being approached by 3rd tier or worse. I fully agree with OP though, just very wordy way to get there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:39 AM
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I meant more along the lines of, I’ve seen and been a part of relationships where the female looked down upon the male because she was a career woman or made more money than him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 05:34 AM
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Possibly or just someone with their career as their #1 priority
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:20 PM
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Or fortunately depending on how deadbeat the father is/was
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:19 PM
1

Yeah #3 seems most realistic minus the prostitution part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:53 AM
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Unfortunately it would seem earning power and income is starting to become a big “trait” in deciding partners nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:52 AM
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money, personality, and status to offset looks It helps but that’s not a be all end all but again, that takes time to gain, you just don’t likely wake up one day and have all of this. Women could buy a ton of make up, seductive clothing, etc and at least try to tip a scale in their favor for a night. Nothing wrong with this but to say men have more at their disposal is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:50 AM
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Broad subjective opinion. Plenty of men claim to want to be better because they didn’t have that father figure and want to be there for their kids unlike their own dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:44 AM
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Failed parenting isn’t always a man’s fault just like it isn’t always a woman’s fault. People in general need to choose better who they’re risking bearing a child with. (Aka, fucking) By your logic, I can tell single mothers to deal with their problems because they chose to lay with a thug, undesirable, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:43 AM
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very much from woman to woman in my experience), the points in OP are still valid. When women are attracted to you, it's obvious. They show signals. There's no point pursuing someone who isn't showing you signals. No amount of game will win her over. Pretty much wrapped up the thread here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:38 AM
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Not everybody not getting married in their early 20s or even mid 20s are “left overs”. Giving security in a relationship is a pro, not a con, even the club thot reformed would want security.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:33 AM
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I can vouch. At 28, I’m at a far better place SMV wise than any point in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:28 AM
1

What if he/she was dating someone (one person) for their entire 20s but then became single around 30, still a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:25 AM
1

Again, maybe the generalization works for proud claiming men of TRP but not everyone just has unrealistic and super picky expectations, some of us do know the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:36 AM
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Feminism is quite happy to keep gender roles that serve women Definitely the biggest take away here. Hardcore Feminism is basically the TRP of females in reverse, it’s self serving only used as a prop to those rallying to its “cause”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:10 AM
1

What a ridiculous assumption of men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:59 AM
5

Yeah this OP is some serious propaganda for how to ruin a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:55 AM
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only loss does So you’re saying people should purposely hold back every once in a while to “motivate” them? What even.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:53 AM
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if a woman has a lot of friends who have bad relationships or who have problems finding and maintaining relationships, though. So in theory, if a woman has lots of friends who are married but she’s single, probably an easier situation for the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 08:20 AM
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Anecdotal evidence but again the OP is asking our experiences. I have friends who come close to fitting the stereotype of “Chad”, and guess what? They’re either usually always chatting up a new girl and banging half of them, and from that, it seems roughly half the time it’s a girl who plays herself up as a real catch and she “never does this” but sure enough, the right amount of witty banter and smooth talk and it’s a done deal. So yes I do believe men and women alike will fuck a stranger if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 07:32 AM
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Feminism at its core I do believe has good intentions but like all “movements”, it has been tainted with people who take it too far. Now feminism is a sweeping generalization that is used selectively when it can improve the situation of those championing it’s now usually twisted meaning. When it doesn’t work, the male society is keeping us down, when it does work, that’s why feminism works. Story of everyone’s life, some ruin it for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 07:26 AM
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or are deliberately avoiding I usually agree with you on most things but how can we assume someone is purposely avoiding this just for the sake of future debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:23 PM
1

I second this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 11:40 PM
1

What? Where is this coming from? I lean red but I don’t even come close to claiming all women equal feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:07 PM
2

Shit, I keep reading this as “ass holiness”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:35 AM
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Over sensitivity is killing this country in so many different ways.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/18 11:10 PM
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I didn't read the article and I'm not going to. While that doesn’t invalidate your opinion, it makes you harder to take your words for any kind of truth. Probably anecdotal at best but I’ve seen dozens of women claim something like this, their actions speak otherwise.
/r/BlackPillScience10/06/18 05:13 PM
1

“Chad” at this point is too generalized to be a person. It’s basically a mindset now. You want to achieve “Chad” like people want to achieve “zen”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:07 PM
1

not sexually attracted to fat women. Which is more of a preference in the end so why you’d be getting flamed is beyond stupid. A woman would openly claim she’s not into an obese guy and it’s just ok. I hate double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:04 PM
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If you are attractive then your approaches and inappropriate touches are welcome and desired. If you are ugly then they are sexual harassment. This is the harsh reality of approaching women, at least nowadays, especially in an overly feminist period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:58 PM
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Considering I’ve been ghosted by people who I thought I was “clicking” with, it’s an odd and confusing feeling. Also those who claim they would never do it as a positive trait of themselves usually do it most
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 05:13 PM
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Except, of course, many women who say this are indeed that type of girl. At least half the women I've had ONS with thought it necessary to tell me (often multiple times) that they're not the type of girl that hooks up all the time -- "I never do this". I can vouch for this. Two women who “never do this” ended up being my most two serious relationships with one being marriage potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 04:53 PM
2

I found TRP long before I found PPD but I’m here 90% of the time now. I didn’t get interested in these “pills” because I was chasing women, I like the psychology of it all. I also like the questioning of everything and debating, hence why I hang mostly here now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 05:29 AM
3

In theory, a happy beta would be best and would likely have qualities of an alpha to balance out and therefore have a successful LTR. Being very general here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 11:39 AM
1

Smarter people may make more money but that’s not mutually exclusive with good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 11:36 AM
1

Ha, no luck so far
/r/seduction02/06/18 01:39 AM
1

You see, I have to meet a lady like you around me.
/r/seduction02/06/18 01:33 AM
1

I’m 28 and I’d date a 35 year old, as long as she isn’t snobby and at least shares some of my interests or let’s me have my own hobbies. I’m beginning to broaden my horizons because it seems (in my experiences) most women under 30 are still playing a lot of games
/r/seduction02/06/18 01:19 AM
2

Agreed. It’s a hard next when a chick tells me IHABF, plenty of other ladies
/r/TheRedPill01/06/18 05:19 AM
1

That’d be a great way to look at it but I’m sure plenty don’t go this route
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:38 AM
1

Either way, most of us would probably agree which female in that group of four is not average. However, I give benefit of the doubt, I’m not gonna judge someone’s “attractiveness” based off of what they look like at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:42 PM
1

Average is also subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:38 PM
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That’s a last resort. Plus why are these men looking online? If you’re a man who has a good job and isn’t super ugly, and you go to church regularly women will come to you in real life. Another overgeneralization. Not everyone just has the spare time to go out and meet people in person especially if you work a lot. I get told I’m attractive somewhat regularly but I get approached slim to none and if I do, it’s by somebody I wouldn’t date (single mothers, much larger females, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:29 PM
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The dating website experience in 2018 would probably challenge this claim I feel. Nowadays even the most average of women get blown up constantly, now try being an average dude on a dating website. Also, where is this evidence that men find dating and LTRs to be a pain in the ass, gross over generalization. The “average” person of either gender is likely going to have to work harder than the high value people. Although it still seems to be commonplace for males to make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:15 PM
8

Looks is #1, then status, then everything else.
/r/seduction29/05/18 11:40 PM
3

You could say only date someone who you can see legitimate long term potential with. For example, if you meet a lady who you know is fun, interesting, etc but has another serious flaw in your eyes (religious, political, viewpoints, etc), you may “date” her but she could also likely be just a stepping stone to someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 06:00 PM
3

Agreed. I’ve said it in other threads before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:58 PM
2

To expand on your idea, TRP is just a shell, a generalization. Within it, there’s only MGTOW or PUA. It’s like a pill within the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 05:42 AM
1

Looks is still usually #1, it would take a hell of a status to ignore physical unattraction to someone if that is the case
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 05:39 AM
1

I’d agree with your idea on the purple pill. I agree with portions of TRP but also have disagreements on some of the ideals. Hence why my flair is reddish purple
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:11 AM
1

For clarification, even the discussion of the mindset is not allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:14 PM
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The TRP reddit hasn’t changed too much in my opinion, I just think the MGTOW “movement” has gotten louder because its basically the ones redpill principles didn’t work for and the far right portion of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 02:47 PM
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women lose sexual desire once in committed relationships, Why is that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 12:42 AM
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So you’re saying women want a high value (attractive, decent to high income) man? I don’t feel like this is generally new knowledge particular to the redpill crowd. That’s how I’m perceiving this anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 02:51 AM
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"My new girlfriend is 12..." (Eyes widen) Go on... Not even gonna lie, when I first read it too, I was about to spit out my water, then I kept reading
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:24 AM
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this is consistent with stats. But how many people are really marrying 30 years older than themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:23 AM
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Depending on the age, even 8-10 years may be odd, at least to me. I’m 28 but I can’t imagine dating a 18-20 year old, too much probable immaturity and possible cluelessness about life for my liking. However if you’re 36 and she’s 26, that’s just not as big of a maturity gap, again, at least in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:18 AM
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I'm only 27 and I've already noticed the party scene is starting to slow down. Also depends on your surroundings, company, etc. but yes. At 28, I’m only going to clubs to see people I know; the dj, bartender, etc. if a younger female (21ish) wants to approach, I’m all for it. Otherwise I’m going to a bar to meet people or meet them at other social gatherings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:09 AM
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I mean hell, look at celebrities and pro athletes, a decent number of them spend a load of time on instagram or snapchat. We assume their sex life is average at worst, and well above average at best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:05 AM
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Even with AWALT, I’m almost speechless at the pedophile part.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 07:36 AM
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It’s like I said in another thread though. Looks absolutely matter and it starts out being the most important quality someone has, you can’t get to any other qualities without being physically attractive in some manner first. Now after that, other qualities may take over
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 07:09 AM
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I would consider a “post wall” woman as long as she isn’t a mother. As a matter of principle to me, I do not want to be involved in another man’s child’s life. I want to “create” my own children with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:17 AM
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The more I research anything about MGTOW, the more it just sounds like a fork of being Incel. Obviously there’s exceptions but they follow a similar train of thought
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:06 AM
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I think people exaggerate the wall but I do think it exists in a sense. Some people’s SMV will drastically be different at 35 compared to 25, for better or for worse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 02:16 PM
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I mean, some dudes just like chubby women, it likely has something to do with their overall SMV, but I guess you never know.
/r/askTRP19/05/18 12:59 AM
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You can’t label this to just men, BOTH genders need to put in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:44 PM
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stop eating processed food that's mostly industrialized chemicals I honestly think this is a big part of it, obviously processed food existed then too but that industry is growing leaps and bounds
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:42 PM
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Looks is always first because you’re rarely going to get to looks, game, and status without first finding someone attractive physically. It’s a big game of paper, rock, scissors. Money can buy you status but status cannot get you money, looks and game might be able to. However, status, money, and game can overcome looks sometimes. It’s a big mess and a lot of them cross each other
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 11:31 PM
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Guys ultimately value regular sex more than the relationship stuff Regular sex and relationship stuff can go hand in hand. If you’re in a good relationship, you’re probably getting regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:22 PM
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Better would be anything benefitting a relationship whether it’s causal or LTR, obviously unacceptable would be anything harming it. There’s a twist to every situation I’m sure. Example, if you’re heavily into fitness and you begin dating a fitness chick and you both have this “expectation” of each other so to speak, but one of you just stop caring and start getting way out of shape, that’s going to cause issues. If two hardcore vegans are dating and one all of a sudden decides fuck it, I want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:19 PM
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To each their own, considering there’s people running around who insist and claim on getting a home run of a 9 or 10, I don’t feel my example fits the bill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:13 PM
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You would hope newbies keep reading though so they don’t just cut and dry the general mentality.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/18 07:14 AM
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I hate to be this guy but yes I’d be interested but she’s gotta be at least somewhat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 07:01 AM
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How am I being hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 06:57 AM
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I mean, I agree with this. ME PERSONALLY, would rather have one loyal and good sex 7/10 lady and get it whenever I want and her only fucking me than play the game with just a CHANCE of fucking a 9 or 10, meanwhile she’s playing the whole field.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:11 AM
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obey the faux theatre that is "BDSM" who now thinks himself an 8. Elaborate on this statement, I’m curious
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:06 AM
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It’s the same concept that comes up in life all the time, a few idiots ruined it for everyone. Some dudes try so aggressively that the female ends up shutting everyone down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 05:18 PM
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I’m red in the fact that I do believe it’s frowned upon to be masculine in today’s increasingly feminine-ish society. I do also think this has allowed women to have much more power in the dating world than men Also I do agree with the bettering yourself aspect. HOWEVER, I don’t believe AWALT, I still hold some faith in some semi old school way of dating where equal effort is made from both men and women. I also don’t think all women are just out there waiting to drop their yoga pants for the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 04:37 PM
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/u/lewiscross /u/SlimLovin so Slim, what’s the real truth then? Not saying you’re lying but I’d like to hear your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 04:31 PM
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That first one in the red, just damn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 04:45 AM
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