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| 1 | Is the PUA community basically dead?A lot of factors killed the PUA movement. Here are just 4 of them: ONE - There was no qualification to become a pick up coach. Any guy could take a few pics with random women in clubs, upload them to a website, then call himself a coach and start charging thousands of dollars. Students had bad experiences with these fake teachers, so they left the community and told others to stay away. In other industries like accounting, it's regulated and a person needs at least 6 years to become qualified (3… | /r/seduction | 15/07/22 12:42 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.You can do a lot of hobbies without money or with only some money. Writing is free. Can learn a language for free from the internet. Becoming good at cooking is something that won't cost extra money if you already cook in home and even saves you money if you eat outside. You can borrow books from a library on topics you're interested in (history, economy, psychology, etc) and learn about that. You can make summary notes of what you learn so you can revise it later and better understand it. Playi… | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 06:39 AM |
| 1 | One method to increase confidence around women: Find something you enjoy doing that some women will be attracted to. Do that activity and become good at it. Find women who like you for doing that. When you have a few women who like you, it increases your confidence around other women.You make an interesting point. Feelings of being worthy is definitely a big part of it. I'm sad to hear you think you are unworthy. I think you are very worthy and deserving of what makes you happy. I hope one day you realise that too. But it is hard to deal with negative thoughts in our head. A lot of people, both men and women feel unworthy. It's definitely not easy to overcome. Maybe the real secret to being good at connecting with others is feeling worthy. And feeling worthy might be the big… | /r/seduction | 21/03/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | One method to increase confidence around women: Find something you enjoy doing that some women will be attracted to. Do that activity and become good at it. Find women who like you for doing that. When you have a few women who like you, it increases your confidence around other women.Thanks for sharing your experience. Different things work for different people. Before I got into learning social skills, I joined a dance class for a few months. I was really dedicated to it, and when some women saw how committed I was to it, they would come up and talk to me, and a few even asked for my social media details. I have autism, and know a few guy friends who also have autism. One guy I know who has autism and struggles with talking, likes to do yoga, and also go for cooking classes… | /r/seduction | 20/03/22 11:17 PM |
| 1 | You Get What You Subconsciously BelieveVery true! Great article. | /r/seduction | 04/10/21 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Does the scale really exist?It doesn't exist. Either you are interested or you're not interested. A woman you think looks 'perfect', might not even be noticed by another guy. | /r/seduction | 03/10/21 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Am I really doing the right thing!?Living your life to the max would be focusing on your work, chasing your dreams, and doing something you can be proud to tell your grandchildren about. Approaching women on the streets isn't living life to the max, it's just wasting precious time. Keep in mind that 'dating coaches' have a financial incentive to convince others that cold approaching is more valuable than it really is. This is the only way they can sell their over-priced services and products. It reminds me of when I was in high s… | /r/seduction | 26/09/21 11:09 PM |
| 1 | The best guys also get rejected a lot. Don't let the marketing fool you. Back in the day guys were honest that most of their approaches end in rejection. Today coaches lie to sell their products.they are just people who get off on lying on the internet Yeah, a lot of guys like lying online so they can get validation from people on the internet. This makes it harder for new guys to learn what's useful. You're absolutely right it's all a numbers game. That's one of the most important lessons to internalize for this. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:35 PM |
| 2 | The best guys also get rejected a lot. Don't let the marketing fool you. Back in the day guys were honest that most of their approaches end in rejection. Today coaches lie to sell their products.Glad it's useful to you. You're welcome and good luck bro. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 02:26 PM |
| 2 | The best guys also get rejected a lot. Don't let the marketing fool you. Back in the day guys were honest that most of their approaches end in rejection. Today coaches lie to sell their products.The men at the top still get rejected a lot. Paul Janka was a really good looking guy when he was in his twenties and used to do cold approaching, and he said 96% of women he approached rejected him. He's married now and out of the game, but Google pics of him or look up his videos on YouTube from back when he was in his twenties. He was good looking, and had skill and experience. Maybe guys at the top have a lower rejection rate than others, but they still get rejected a lot. I made my post so … | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:53 AM |
| 14 | The best guys also get rejected a lot. Don't let the marketing fool you. Back in the day guys were honest that most of their approaches end in rejection. Today coaches lie to sell their products.Thanks. This industry needs more facts and less lies. | /r/seduction | 11/09/21 03:40 AM |
| 0 | Cold approach vs strong social circleI personally think it depends on the person. Some people are naturally better at cold approach, others are naturally better at social circle. | /r/seduction | 17/08/21 11:42 AM |
| 3 | Being PRODUCTIVE is being ATTRACTIVE. While this isn't all there is to success with women, it's a big part. If you've been spending a lot of time going out and your results are the same, or getting worse, maybe you need to find something more important to dedicate your time to.too many guys have their life revolve around women and not on doing productive stuff Very true! This is what ironically causes most of their challenges with women. | /r/seduction | 17/08/21 08:38 AM |
| 3 | Being PRODUCTIVE is being ATTRACTIVE. While this isn't all there is to success with women, it's a big part. If you've been spending a lot of time going out and your results are the same, or getting worse, maybe you need to find something more important to dedicate your time to.Glad to help. We all need this reminder from time to time. | /r/seduction | 17/08/21 07:16 AM |
| 37 | Daygame NIGHTMARE! (My daygame experience and story)It sounds like cold approaching might not be your thing. Not everyone is meant to do cold approaching, despite what dating coaches trying to sell products say. One of my best friends from uni is good-looking and a natural extrovert, and he's really good at cold approaching. He does it all the time and gets great results. I'm the opposite. I have autism so can't read social cues properly, I'm considered ugly, and I'm also a foreigner in a Western country, which makes it harder. So to meet people,… | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 07:54 AM |
| 13 | Why are some men naturally born to be good at women?Different people are good at different things. Some are good at studies, others at social stuff, others at sports, etc. One of my friends was bad at everything in high school. But after high school, he discovered he was naturally good at fixing cars. He became a mechanic and focused obsessively on that. A few years later he was working at a nice place fixing cars. Interestingly when women saw how passionate he was about fixing cars and how good he was at it, they became interested in him. I pers… | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 07:23 AM |
| 2 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.I'm glad to hear you agree with this. Thanks for the compliment. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 05:40 AM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 12:57 AM |
| 3 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Thanks, I'm glad you liked the post. Yeah, people underestimate how powerful social circle game can be when done correctly. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 03:07 PM |
| 6 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Completely agree, that's such a great feeling! And the support and help you get is also incredibly valuable. Once I had a bad injury and couldn't move much or leave the house. But I had friends who bought my groceries and came to visit me. Having that support network and help is more than worth the initial effort it took to build that. Having a support network of friends is under-rated. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 03:06 PM |
| 10 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.It's hard for me to say. There could be a variety of reasons. Maybe you just didn't connect with them and you're not meant to be friends with them. Or maybe you accidentally said the wrong thing. Or maybe it had nothing to do with her friends but she changed her mind about you for some other reason. Thinking and worrying too much about it is just going to make you feel bad. For me personally, I see every interaction as a learning experience. There are times when a woman rejects me, and I will te… | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 02:59 PM |
| 19 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Maybe create a group event, like a picnic, or party at someone's house, or dinner at a restaurant. Think of a few topics of conversation that they might find interesting beforehand if you feel nervous about it. For instance if you met them at the gym, you can talk about fitness. Or check the news for any recent events or celebrity news that's interesting. Or ask their opinion on something. Or you can organize activities that don't require much conversation. One of my friendship group like boardg… | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 02:43 PM |
| 0 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.I'm glad to hear this post talks about stuff you've been thinking of. Yes, you can DM me your questions. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 02:31 PM |
| 7 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Agreed, social circle game can be a lot of work at first. Especially when someone is learning how to build a social circle or join other circles. But once someone learns it and sets up social circles, they don't have to do much work to meet new people. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 09:24 AM |
| 25 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Yeah, creating new social circles isn't something many people do. It felt unusual to me when I first started doing it. It gets easier with practise, but the beginning is hard. Thanks for letting me know my post was helpful. I'm glad to hear it and it motivates me to write more. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 09:11 AM |
| 7 | Getting womenBy not calling them "b*tches" and seeing them as human beings instead. | /r/seduction | 03/08/21 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Maybe cold approach works really well for some, and not for others. I've seen posts recently either criticizing or supporting cold approach. But the question's not "Is cold approach a good way?" The correct question should be "Is cold approach a good way FOR ME?"There are pros and cons to both methods. Each to their own. I'm glad to hear you're getting good results from cold approaching. Keep it up and good luck with it. | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Maybe cold approach works really well for some, and not for others. I've seen posts recently either criticizing or supporting cold approach. But the question's not "Is cold approach a good way?" The correct question should be "Is cold approach a good way FOR ME?"Social Circle Game is also a skill anyone can learn. And when mastered can give lots of results for little time and effort. A right lifestyle will have women introducing you to their friends, so you can spend your time doing other things. Or just make excuses. | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Maybe cold approach works really well for some, and not for others. I've seen posts recently either criticizing or supporting cold approach. But the question's not "Is cold approach a good way?" The correct question should be "Is cold approach a good way FOR ME?"Glad it resonates with you. You're welcome. | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Maybe cold approach works really well for some, and not for others. I've seen posts recently either criticizing or supporting cold approach. But the question's not "Is cold approach a good way?" The correct question should be "Is cold approach a good way FOR ME?"I did step out of my comfort zone and cold approach, but it didn't work for me. I got a lot better results from social hobbies and social circle for much less effort. So decided to dedicate my game time to that and become really good at what I'm talented at. But I'm aware that for some guys cold approach works a lot better for them. And they should keep doing that if it works for them. Rather than struggling with what someone isn't naturally good at, why not work on improving what someone is goo… | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 07:33 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Yeah, Models is a much better read. I'm glad it replaced "The Game". | /r/seduction | 20/07/21 07:48 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]So how in the world would that ever disappear? Back in 2007, there were Lairs in every city, lots of forums and websites, plenty of dating coach companies, and lots of guys knew about PUA. Fast forward to today, most Lairs are shut down or hardly active, most of the forums and websites have disappeared, all the big dating coaching companies are gone, and the new generation of men don't know what PUA is. Based on what I've observed, it seems like it's disappearing. | /r/seduction | 20/07/21 06:57 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]This is just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it. But I feel some of the literature in PUA, like Mystery Method and The Game was about treating women like objects, trying to get every women to like you, and trying to get an identity as a player for self esteem. I feel this is an unhealthy mindset. I also think the PUA world is dying and will disappear soon. Most of the PU companies have closed down, YouTube removed several channels and those channels that remain are shown less by Youtube, an… | /r/seduction | 20/07/21 03:25 AM |
| 1 | What does PUA mean?PUA = Dodgy marketers selling expensive courses which won't help you much. A lot of what they teach will actually make you worse. People eventually figured out those guys were scams and avoided them. It's why the PUA industry is dying and not many people talk of them anymore. | /r/seduction | 06/06/21 08:59 PM |
| 15 | Models by Mark Manson --> read it!Models is the best book I've read on dating. I always recommend it to anyone who asks me what book to read. | /r/seduction | 05/06/21 12:41 PM |
| 3 | Why do you have to introduce yourself with achievements?I think maybe it's to give context, so people better understand their advice or question. For instance, a guy who works out a lot and looks good will do better in certain situations of meeting women. He may find cold approaching or nightclubs gives him great results, and write about this. Someone who doesn't work out may then follow this advice to do cold approaching and nightclubs, and get bad results. He may then be confused or upset. But if the original poster says he works out a lot, then pe… | /r/seduction | 19/05/21 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Kinda new here, what are the best tips I've missed out on this sub?-Read the book Models by Mark Manson. If you want more books to read, check out 3% Man by Corey Wayne, Way of the Superior Man by David Deida, How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. -Go out and practise talking to people a lot. Improving social skills is like learning martial arts. The only way to become good at is by practising a lot, not by reading too much. -Don't buy PUA courses. They are overpriced, and don't teach much. -Make friends with guys who are good with women, an… | /r/seduction | 13/05/21 06:13 AM |
| 1 | This sub is awesome! I like how the emphasis is on self improvement and having better things to do than pick up. This makes you less desperate, and you don't commit the mistake of making being a 'player' your identity. If your self-esteem comes from how well you do with opposite sex, you do worse.Hey, thanks for your comment. I think there's a difference. With football you can get better at it by putting in more effort. But seduction is one of those activities where if you try too hard, you do worse. There's a point of diminishing returns for your efforts after a while in seduction. At least that has been my experience with it. I agree just working on ourselves might not be enough, and there may need to be time dedicated to learn communication skills. But my problem is when this is made … | /r/seduction | 10/05/21 02:06 AM |
| 2 | Some Legitimately Curious Non-Judgemental Questions From A Real Live (Well Online) FemaleI'm just going to address the first point here. A lot of what happened in The Game was basically fake or massively exaggerated. It was a marketing trick. The author used it to get plenty of men to buy his course after they read it. He had a really big financial motivation to lie. Unfortunately a lot of men at the time with no experience believed it was real, and developed toxic beliefs that made this journey a lot harder for them. Thankfully most guys of the new generation don't waste their time… | /r/seduction | 08/05/21 04:29 PM |
| 2 | What it's like to do pickup for over a decadeThanks for taking the time to type up such a good response. I really appreciate it. I will check out James Marshall and Todd V. It's really nice of you to tell me who the good ones are, and save me a lot of time and effort of not having to go through the bad ones to find the good ones. I appreciate it. You're a great guy. | /r/seduction | 06/05/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | What it's like to do pickup for over a decadeI've heard others say the same, that RSD these days teach a lot of inner game mumbo jumbo that doesn't get good results, and that 2012 or so was their peak. Then they just kept making weird products to earn money. So it was confirmation and helpful for me to hear that from you too. In all your time in the game, have you found any guru, method, or ebook that made you better, or were they all unhelpful? | /r/seduction | 06/05/21 04:41 AM |
| 2 | What it's like to do pickup for over a decadeThank you for sharing your experience with us. It's very helpful. For most of the time I did pickup, I was deep into RSD and all their backshot air promises of "identity level change." Kept waiting, waiting, waiting, for the other shoe to drop. Five years in, and why is everyone still so fucking mean to me? Why do I still have to fight so hard for every little crumb of pussy I get? Aren't I supposed to be ALPHA? So are you saying that after 5 years of following RSD philosophy of doing lots of co… | /r/seduction | 05/05/21 07:43 PM |
| 14 | The vicious cycle - the more you crave and seek approval, the more people will dislike you. The importance of self-development and independence from external validationVery insightful post. However, often times the superficial need for validation from others is a band-aid, where deeper level self-improvement and self-acceptance is needed. This is so true! I didn't realise this for a long time, that the reason I was obsessed with external validation was because deep down I didn't accept and like myself. But the more I learnt to like myself, the less I needed external validation, and the less I cared what others thought of me. Ironically this caused people to li… | /r/seduction | 04/05/21 04:36 PM |
| 66 | A bit of a reality checkGreat post! Very true. Guys don't need 'Game' or 'PUA' tricks. Just see women as normal human beings and don't be desperate. | /r/seduction | 04/05/21 01:36 AM |
| 2 | How did you overcome approach anxiety?You're welcome. Yeah, that's the best book on dating in my opinion. It's better than 'The Game' or other PUA rubbish. Definitely worth a read. | /r/seduction | 30/04/21 12:41 AM |
| 2 | How did you overcome approach anxiety?I didn't overcome it, but I did reduce it by accepting rejection is inevitable and is a good thing. I have the mindset that when I show the real me, most people will reject me, but that is good, as I screen out the people who are not fit for my life. A dating coach in my city who has been studying Game since 2004 and met a lot of guys, told me even the best guys can only get 1 or 2 out of every 10 women to like them. He pointed out that out of every 10 women you meet, half of them will be in rel… | /r/seduction | 30/04/21 12:28 AM |
| 2 | The r/seduction Information CycleI think writing out posts based on what others say is something people do to better internalise and understand a concept. I've noticed a pattern where a lot of guys who first join the community write and post a lot. Then as they go out and take action, they understand things better. They gain more experience. Then one day they reach a level where they know enough to get the success they want. Then they leave the community. So I feel people writing out these posts based on other people's posts is… | /r/seduction | 28/04/21 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Advice on situation regarding dating coachYou did the right move by not wasting money on that. There is plenty of free information online. At most I would spend money to buy some books that have helped others and been recommended by others, like Models, How to Win Friends and Influence People, Way of the Superior Man, etc. But I would never waste money on dating coach. | /r/seduction | 27/04/21 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Female Perspective: To some women it's all about the intentionsVery good post with really solid advice! Thanks for posting this. I always like hearing from a woman's point of view so I can better understand what to do and not to do. I appreciate that you took the time to write this. | /r/seduction | 27/04/21 12:47 AM |
| 3 | How to win friends and influence people: better than any seduction pua book. Fight me.Very true! I learnt more from How To Win Friends than from any PUA book too. I always recommend it to anyone who asks me which book to read. | /r/seduction | 26/04/21 09:05 AM |
| 8 | This is often overlooked but important thing when dealing with womenLook in the mirror, and try to gently raise the corner of your eyes using the muscles there. It should look like you're smiling with your eyes. Or try smiling a lot till the smile reached your eyes, to see how your eyes look when smiling like that, then try to just do that with your eyes. That's what works for me, but if that doesn't work for you, then maybe you need to try another way to smile with your eyes. Try YouTube or Google it for other ways. But I don't think it's that difficult once yo… | /r/seduction | 26/04/21 12:39 AM |
| 3 | This is often overlooked but important thing when dealing with womenCompletely agree with this! After Models, there hasn't been a good book on this subject. Just wondering, do you think that's because there is nothing else to learn in this area, as everything has been written about? Or do you think there's another reason? | /r/seduction | 26/04/21 12:34 AM |
| 115 | This is often overlooked but important thing when dealing with womenIn my experience, the most important body language are: -Have good posture. Walk with straight back. -Don't look down at your feet. Look straight ahead, or look up. -Smile with eyes. | /r/seduction | 25/04/21 09:00 PM |
| 9 | I am sick of being played with by females and this is the worst I have ever felt in my lifeHey buddy, I think I might had something similar. I've met women who used me to boost their ego. I have autism, and am also a foreigner living in a Western country. I was at the bottom of the social ladder for a long time. And I would meet women who pretended to be interested in me, lead me on, then reject me just to boost their ego. It hurt. Not all women did this to me, but it can feel like they all do. I'm going to explain later what I did to escape the mess I was in. But first I want to expl… | /r/seduction | 25/04/21 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Is cold approach seen differently today?I've heard that from others as well. A dating coach I know who's been cold approaching since 2007 and still does as it's his job, told me it has gotten harder a few years ago. I've also read other Redditors saying the same thing. The younger generation find it unusual to be cold approached. I think the younger generation find it goes against social norms to have strangers talking to them as it doesn't happen often. There are 2 reasons for this: The first reason is social media like Facebook, Ins… | /r/seduction | 23/04/21 03:50 PM |
| 1 | How can I still seduce a colleague if she already knows about my wife?Agreed! This is a great community! | /r/seduction | 23/04/21 03:32 PM |
| 5 | How can I still seduce a colleague if she already knows about my wife?Don't cheat on your wife. That's the wrong thing to do. Stay loyal to her. If you have too much time or are bored, get a hobby, or try to find your purpose in life, or do something to help others. Or maybe work on your self-esteem. Something tells me maybe you want to cheat on your wife because you feel empty inside, and think having another sexual partner will fill the hole and complete you. It won't. Other people can't complete you. Do one of the steps I suggested above, or look deep within to… | /r/seduction | 23/04/21 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Good books since The Game, Magic Bullets, Venusian Arts, Models??It could very well be. These last 10 years the pick up scene has dropped a lot. Interesting that it coincides with Texas Hold Em. Maybe there's a connection there nobody figured out. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 01:52 AM |
| 4 | Good books since The Game, Magic Bullets, Venusian Arts, Models??I think Models was the last good book. It was the opposite of Game and Mystery Method, and became the textbook of the new seduction community. After Models, there was no big new discovery or technology in this area. Some people like '3% Man' by Corey Wayne, or 'As You Are' by Nick Sparks, but I personally don't think they're as good as Models. I read something recently by a blogger in this field who said Models was the last stage of evolution for this community, and all the ideas that can be dis… | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 12:45 AM |
| 10 | Be interesting, be fit, be stylish, be authenticGreat post! All good points. I especially like having a purpose, and being authentic in liking a woman rather than liking her for validation. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Is eye contact the most powerful “tool” of seduction?That makes senss. Thanks for taking the time to give me the explanation, I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 19/04/21 04:16 AM |
| 2 | HOW TO MEET PEOPLE WITHOUT COLD APPROACH OR ONLINE DATINGAnd the advantage of volleyball and board game is you get to do a fun activity together, so getting to know them afterwards is natural and easy. | /r/seduction | 18/04/21 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Is eye contact the most powerful “tool” of seduction?Thanks for your answer. So is it a mindset thing? Do you mean you just tell yourself to "look into their soul" when looking into her eyes? Sorry for the question, I really want to understand this. | /r/seduction | 18/04/21 10:12 PM |
| 1 | In hope of bridging the gapCompletely agree! A relationship should be about two people working together honestly. They're on the same side. | /r/seduction | 18/04/21 03:44 PM |
| 8 | Is eye contact the most powerful “tool” of seduction?What do you mean by deep into their soul contact? Like stare deeply into one of their eyes? I'm genuinely curious about how you do this, as I've noticed sometimes when a woman is talking, if I stare deeply into one eye, it can cause them to talk more and be more engaged. So am curious about how you do it, as you might be on to something. | /r/seduction | 18/04/21 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Having interesting chats (gender unspecifc)Hey, yes I can do that. I will sit down next week and write it up. | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Having interesting chats (gender unspecifc)You're welcome. Good luck with it buddy. | /r/seduction | 16/04/21 10:22 PM |
| 12 | Having interesting chats (gender unspecifc)TALK OF EMOTIONS AND MOTIVATIONS There are 3 levels for a Topic. Facts = This is the surface level. Eg. "I spent 6 weeks in Brazil." Emotion = How you felt about it, and bonus points if you talk of WHY you felt that. "Brazil was a fun and enjoyable place because the food was amazing, and I got to play soccer with the locals. They were very friendly." Motivation = The reason you went to Brazil. "I went to Brazil because growing up I watched soccer a lot, and they were always in the finals of the … | /r/seduction | 16/04/21 08:30 PM |
| 1 | In hope of bridging the gapGreat post! Especially points 1 and 6, on working hard to achieve goals and not playing games. I feel the reason some guys like to play games is because it's easier than working hard. But playing games doesn't give good results. When a guy puts in the effort to improve himself, he doesn't need to play games. This was a nice post to read. | /r/seduction | 16/04/21 08:10 PM |
| 2 | "Seduction" guidesModels by Mark Manson. This is the best book on dating in my opinion. Way of the Superior Man by David Deida. This book has to be read a few times to be understood, but gives a lot of good insights. It's less about social skills, but more about deeper level stuff. How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. This book taught me to be interested in others and be a good listener. It also has other good tips. I found these 3 books very helpful. | /r/seduction | 12/04/21 05:54 PM |
| 2 | "Seduction" guidesThe only thing spending $100 on a guide like that will teach you is not to waste money on rubbish like that. Those guides are just fancy marketing by guys who spent years learning how to trick others into feeling they need to buy. Stay away from it. | /r/seduction | 12/04/21 04:33 PM |
| 3 | is game common sense?Agree with this. A lot of guys do this stuff naturally. When I joined a gym, my posture improved automatically. But according to PUA this is a 'secret way to convey you are alpha'. When I learnt to be happy with myself, I automatically smiled with my eyes. Which is something PUA tell guys to remember to do. But when you're happy, you don't have to remember to do it, it happens as a side effect. The high level stuff is also natural. Triangle gazing is considered an advanced tactic, and it's when … | /r/seduction | 10/04/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Getting better with women, having success at dating, increasing social skills, getting laid.. requires commitment EVERY dayThanks for your answer. :) Yeah, I meant like regularly approaching every day. Good to know it will take just a few months. Haha, true, our definition of intermediate may be different. I mean the average guy who sticks at this for 2 to 4 years approaching and doing online dating regularly. Not keyboard jockeying for 2 to 4 years. You gave me a great answer, and confirmed something I had been thinking about. Thanks for that. I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 10/04/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Getting better with women, having success at dating, increasing social skills, getting laid.. requires commitment EVERY dayGreat post! I always like reading what you write Manwhore. It's very insightful. I have 2 questions If an intermediate guy with 2 to 4 years experience were to take a 1 year break, then got back into Game, would he have fallen really far back, or could he catch up to his previous level in a few months? If someone became really good at this, like some of the top guys, do they still have to keep doing this regularly to maintain their skill? | /r/seduction | 09/04/21 04:06 PM |
| 3 | Why daygame is not for everyone. (And doesn't have to be.)I've been thinking a lot about this as well. I have a friend who works as an accountant, and he normally has work 50 to 60 hours a week. Add in travel time, grocery shopping, laundry, exercise, etc, and he has very little time left over. He said he can only meet people through social hobbies that let him exercise at the same time, like running groups, tennis, etc, as there just isn't enough time in his schedule. Daygame can be useful for some people, but I definitely agree it's not for everyone. | /r/seduction | 06/04/21 12:53 PM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameThese are really good reasons! You've given me some clever and very true points to reflect on. Thanks for taking the time to type them up and share them with me. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 06/04/21 03:33 AM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameThanks for your comment. That's interesting you said there is a diminishing returns for practise for this. I have noticed when I was doing this too much, my social skills started to go down. Not many people talk about this though, and I'm interested in hearing more as I enjoy learning of others perspective and experience. Could you share your thoughts or experiences on diminishing returns and avoiding extra practice? | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 10:38 PM |
| 1 | What book would you personally say has helped you the most and why?That's awesome. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions and help me. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 09:55 PM |
| 1 | What book would you personally say has helped you the most and why?Thanks. So I should just study this book carefully and apply it to understand what you learnt from Swingcat philosophy? Did you have to look at other resources to understand Swingcat, or was this book enough? Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I can get the same benefit from studying Swingcat that you did. | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 09:15 PM |
| 1 | What book would you personally say has helped you the most and why?Thank you, that will be really helpful for me. | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 08:47 PM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameWhat do you mean by basis? My university counsellor told me she thought I might have autism. So I then went to see a psychologist who specialized in autism diagnosis. She asked me questions and gave me some tests over 4 or 5 different sessions, and at the end said I had autism. She said some of the indications I had autism were: When I was a child I started speaking at an older age than other children, and also liked lining toys up in a straight line. During the tests and sessions I had with her… | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 07:37 PM |
| 30 | Disagreeing and having your own opinions of your own not only shows strength, it makes others feel safe.Good post with very solid points. | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 04:36 PM |
| 1 | What book would you personally say has helped you the most and why?I've heard of Swingcat, but never studied his material. I might look into it. Did he have a book you read, or did he have videos? | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 09:06 AM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameI do stick to a routine when eating food. As in I tend to stick to the same food on the menu. The waiters at my favourite restaurants already know what I want to order before I even sit down, lol. But I think that's because I like routine. I wouldn't say I'm overly fussy, as if I go to a friend's house for dinner, I will eat whatever they make. I have lots of trouble paying attention in class. I could never concentrate in lectures. I find I learn better by reading. I learn nothing from lectures,… | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 08:20 AM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameYou're welcome. Don't feel bad about being stuck in it, it's a phase you had to go through. You can't go from 1 to 3 without stage 2. Be thankful for the time you spent in there because it made you a better person. Then acknowledge you no longer need to be in there, and can move to stage 3. You got this. | /r/seduction | 05/04/21 05:41 AM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameThat's incredible you've given multiple speeches at 21 Studios! Awesome work! There are some words in your question I've never heard of, so I did quick Google. Hopefully I answer the questions you're asking. If you mean do I struggle with taking in senses around me, then a little. I do tend not to notice my surroundings or what I see around me. Which is what makes small talk harder for me. Other guys will notice a cute dog walking by and comment on it. I don't notice stuff like that. I try to ma… | /r/seduction | 04/04/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameYou have a point. There are probably a lot of guys who are doing good already, but study PU to get that little extra help. I do remember reading something by Gambler where he said he gets students who already understand fashion, know how to talk to people, have a good social life, and a lot of other things taken care of. He said these guys just need to spend 3 to 6 months learning game, then they're successful, and can stop learning game. Yeah, my 3 Stage Model doesn't apply to everyone. Thanks … | /r/seduction | 04/04/21 12:52 AM |
| 2 | 3 Stages of Learning GameThat's cool, I didn't know Adam Lyons was still in the game. That's awesome you taught a guy who works as a coach for Lyons. Are you the Manwhore who gave a speech at 21 Studios 10 years ago? I just checked out your website. I really like that you use drills to teach. I sometimes teach autistics or those that struggle with conversation, and I give them free association exercises to do, where they try to think of a few points related to a random word. That's probably not as powerful as the drills… | /r/seduction | 03/04/21 06:39 AM |
| 1 | 3 Stages of Learning GameThanks for your comment and sharing your experience. Completely true! I hear that so much, where guys say after they left the community is when they started to get great results. The whole pick up culture is definitely problematic. There are more lies and rubbish in it than useful stuff. I think that's why the pick up arts movement is dying, as more people see the problems with it. | /r/seduction | 03/04/21 04:05 AM |
| 2 | The Dirty Little Secret of The Book "Models" by Mark Manson and Why It's Counter Productive.Models is an old book and the work he laid for the scene is invaluable. Completely agree with this! Models helped move the scene into a healthier and more effective place. | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Thank you guys for boosting my confidence. Don't waste money on coaches. And 4 things to become good at this.Thanks. Yeah, exactly right! The PUA and 'coaches' try to trick guys into thinking they have a secret, so they can sell rubbish for money. But they have no secret. A gym membership and a good therapist will help so much more than any PUA course. | /r/seduction | 28/03/21 04:15 PM |
| 10 | Hero's JourneyI'm not an expert on the Hero's Journey. But from what I gather, you need Mentors, the Mindset to see Challenges as a good thing you can grow from, a Mission you feel strongly about, and the Desire to give back to the world. For me, my Mission is to write books that teach people how to be more Productive. I have autism, which is a condition that affects everyone differently, and it makes it harder for me to work as many hours as others. So I've had to learn to get more done in less time. Then I … | /r/seduction | 27/03/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | How to pickup girls at a loud nightclubVery good advice! | /r/seduction | 27/03/21 11:46 AM |
| 4 | Don't be a peasant looking for a princess to be your wife, be a king looking for a lucky girl to be your queen.Agreed. Jeff Bezos used to work at McDonald's. Now he's one of the richest men in the world and built Amazon. It's not where you are today that counts. It's how hard you work with what you have that counts. Edit: This was to inspire people and show that it's possible to work your way up. Not everyone can hit Jeff Bezos level, but we can try to improve ourselves and not give up. Your past does not equal your future, you can change and improve. | /r/seduction | 26/03/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Some guys have potential for cold approaching, and some guys have potential for social circle game. I see cold approachers criticize lifestyle game, and vice versa. But both are valid methods. The answer is to know yourself, find what works for you, then improve that. Play to your strengths.I have the opposite problem. I can never connect with the type of girls I want through cold approach. But I can find them in social circle game. I like creative type girls, so I go to meet ups or hobbies where they will be and connect with them. I'm really good at being that guy who girls invite out to their parties and introduce to their friends. And often their friends have similar interests to them, so it's just about finding one with the right personality, is available, etc. But I can never … | /r/seduction | 26/03/21 02:25 PM |
| 5 | Should I read ‘The Game’ by Neil Straus?Yeah, Models and 3% Man changed my perspective. They were a healthy improvement from the rubbish the PUA's were writing about. Thanks for your comment. | /r/seduction | 24/03/21 02:31 PM |
| 2 | "A boy looks for how he can impress a woman. A man looks for how she can impress him. A boy wonders what she thinks of him. A man wonders what he thinks of her. A boy asks himself "Where is she from a scale of 1 to 10?" A man asks himself "What is beautiful inside this woman?"" - Zan PerrionChange your thought process, and the actions you take. | /r/seduction | 24/03/21 08:27 AM |
| 18 | Should I read ‘The Game’ by Neil Straus?I don't think you should read the book. The techniques weren't useful. The only good lesson I got from the book was it showed how guys who made picking up women the only thing they do and their identity, ended up going into depression or having mental breakdowns. It made me realize I should never get my identity or self-esteem from being good with women, and to always have more important things in my life. But other than that I learnt nothing else from that book. The books I think you should rea… | /r/seduction | 24/03/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Glad it answered your question. Just wondering what do you think about cold approaching, numbers game, and rejection? There's no right or wrong answer, just curious to hear what you think. You're welcome to disagree with what I said. | /r/seduction | 24/03/21 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Just wanted to shout out how good of a sub r/seduction isHaha, yeah, the funniest were those ads by marketers that said "Learn the secret seven words to get any girl to fall in love with you." And the crazy thing was some guys actually fell for that. Thankfully most people on Seddit don't believe in those lies, and focus on doing the hard work to improve themselves. | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 11:06 AM |
| 4 | Just wanted to shout out how good of a sub r/seduction isCompletely agree with you! When I first joined this I was worried it would be a bunch of PUA guys talking about lying and using tricks to try to get every girl. But then I found out this sub is about self-improvement, honesty, and realizing a lot of girls are going to reject you and that's a good thing as you can then find the right girl for you. The most recommended book in this sub is Models, which is a great book and has a great philosophy. I wish Models had came out before The Game. But at l… | /r/seduction | 23/03/21 02:28 AM |
| 1 | "Remember that picking up women is not like gymnastics. You don’t get extra points for difficulty. So make it as easy and natural as possible." - Juggler. Some guys overcomplicate it. But this is meant to be simple. Drop the pride and ego, it doesn't count in this area of your life.Some guys make the mistake of getting an ego about this, and make it harder than it has to be. This post is to show them they don't have to. | /r/seduction | 22/03/21 10:46 AM |
| 2 | "Remember that picking up women is not like gymnastics. You don’t get extra points for difficulty. So make it as easy and natural as possible." - Juggler. Some guys overcomplicate it. But this is meant to be simple. Drop the pride and ego, it doesn't count in this area of your life.He's been releasing a lot of videos on lifestyle design and social circle game to advertise an online course he's made on social circle game. I think because of the corona, people aren't cold approaching. So James now has a product he's selling that isn't about cold approaching. I don't know how long those videos will be up on his YouTube channel, bc apparently they are part of his paid course and I think he released them to get guys to sign up. But once he has enough students he might take them… | /r/seduction | 22/03/21 06:49 AM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Sounds good. Glad you're going to read those books. When I applied and consistently practised the knowledge in those books, it changed my life for the better. Good luck with it. | /r/seduction | 22/03/21 02:45 AM |
| 6 | what books will you recommend?Models by Mark Manson Way of the Superior Man by David Deida No More Mister Nice Guy by Robert Glover 3% Man by Corey Wayne | /r/seduction | 21/03/21 03:15 PM |
| 1 | What’s the worst seduction advice you have heard/worst thing that you can do to hurt your chances with a woman?Yeah, everyone's different in their approach to social skills and what works for them and doesn't. | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 11:54 PM |
| 1 | What’s the worst seduction advice you have heard/worst thing that you can do to hurt your chances with a woman?Use negs and DHV's is bad advice. You shouldn't use them, bc by using them, you train your mind to think that the girl is above you and you're not good enough as you are for her. It lowers your self-esteem. And the lower your confidence, the less attractive you are. I didn't come up with this. An old school dating coach by the name of Vin Di Carlo who taught natural game, said this when telling people why they shouldn't use negs or DHV'S. I personally agree with his logic. | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Food for thought - parallels?Nice post and thanks for sharing your perspective. But as another person commented, this sub isn't about pretending to be someone you are not. I think you have us confused with the old school pick-up artists. There are 2 types of guys who try to increase their success with women. Type 1 = Men with low self-esteem who use tricks, try to lower a woman's self-esteem, and do other negative stuff. Some them see women as objects to use to impress others, as they lack true confidence. Some of them are … | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 04:47 PM |
| 3 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.I personally am against cold approaching. I think it takes too much time and energy for too little results. In today's world with meet up groups, social media, online dating and friendship apps, there are better ways. It's also easy to run social circle game and keep in contact with old friends these days with social media. I feel in the 90's cold approach might have made sense. Now it doesn't. But that's just my opinion, and I could be completely wrong. I think rejection is inevitable, and a go… | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 12:14 PM |
| 48 | Pros and cons of picking up at grocery stores instead of bar sceneI think because in today's world cold approaching can be seen by some as creepy or dangerous, given what has been happening. It's a new generation, who use dating apps, meet up groups, social media, friendship groups, etc to meet each other. To a lot of people, cold approaching women during the daytime is seen as harrassment and unusual. | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 03:50 AM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Haha, you're a smart guy. I'm planning to turn that list into a book, so it's not finished yet. I used to work as a dating coach before I decided to move on to other things, and this book is my goodbye gift to the community. But you will learn more from other books like 'Models', 'Way of The Superior Man', 'No More Mister Nice Guy' and 'How To Win Friends And Influence People' than from the book I am writing. If you're still interested in my list/book, I can get back to you 1 year from now when … | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 02:39 AM |
| 2 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.James from TNL knows a lot. He's one of my favorite dating coaches to follow on YouTube. Yeah, writing is definitely key. I only got into the habit of writing what I learnt recently, but it's helped me understand my game a lot better. I wish I had started doing it earlier. Glad you found this post useful. | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 01:12 AM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Creative hobbies = Dancing, Cosplay, Painting Classes where you learn a skill = cooking classes, music classes, language classes, etc. Mixed sports = Beach Volleyball, Badminton, Tennis, Surfing, Mixed soccer. There are other things like wine tasting, travel expos, fashion, etc. | /r/seduction | 20/03/21 12:51 AM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Creative hobbies = Dancing, Cosplay, Painting Classes where you learn a skill = cooking classes, music classes, language classes, etc. Mixed sports = Beach Volleyball, Badminton, Tennis, Surfing, Mixed soccer. There are other things like wine tasting, travel expos, fashion, etc. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Meetup.com | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 09:45 PM |
| 1 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Creative hobbies = Dancing, Cosplay, Painting, Classes where you learn a skill = cooking classes, music classes, language classes, etc. Mixed sports = Beach Volleyball, Badminton, Tennis, Surfing, Mixed soccer. There are other things like wine tasting, travel expos, fashion, etc. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 03:25 PM |
| 3 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.You're welcome. I'm happy to hear these are useful to you. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 12:54 PM |
| 3 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.I'm glad it helped. Thanks for telling me these tips were useful. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 12:53 PM |
| 3 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Thank you, glad you like it. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 08:04 AM |
| 23 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Creative hobbies = Dancing, Cosplay, Painting, Classes where you learn a skill = cooking classes, music classes, language classes, etc. Mixed sports = Beach Volleyball, Badminton, Tennis, Surfing, Mixed soccer. There are other things like wine tasting, travel expos, fashion, etc. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 07:16 AM |
| 8 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Exactly what I meant! Basically a hobby that is social, where you meet people as part of the hobby. Such as dancing, volleyball, a choir or music classes with other people, painting, etc. | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 07:10 AM |
| 30 | 6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS.Sometimes our mind has a tendency to think we know more than we do. And the accompanying belief is "This must be hard, because I had to learn a lot to get results." But that's not reality, it's just an illusion. You could watch a 2 hour video on dating advice, but only 5 minutes of it was useful. You only gained 5 mins of knowledge, but you feel you learnt 2 hours worth. I once read a 100 page ebook on dating. But when I decided to write down what I learnt from it, I realised there were only 3 l… | /r/seduction | 19/03/21 07:06 AM |
| 5 | I can’t get a bitch to save my lifeYou need to see girls as human beings first. That means respecting them, having empathy towards them, and trying to understand their thoughts and feelings. That also means not seeing them as 'bitches'. They are human beings. See them as humans, and treat them like humans. A guy who respects girls and sees them as humans will communicate with them differently through the words he use, and also give off a different energy which girls pick up on. This guy will get much better results. | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Thanks for sharing your perspective. That's awesome you coach and have been doing this for 12 years. I'm sure your book will have great ideas that will help a lot of people. | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Keeping A Convo Flowing - Dating AppsYou're welcome! Good luck buddy. | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Put together a list of books recommended on here. Which order do you recommend reading these in/Which one(s) are your favorite here. Focused on game here, but social skills are important, too. Comment your recommendations not listed. Each Book is Numbered, Leave your ranking!In my opinion: 2, 3, 5, 10, 16, 17. Not in any order because I think they're all useful. | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 01:30 AM |
| 2 | Why should i learn seduction arts ?I've met guys like that. From my experience those guys have focused on their lifestyle. They concentrate on their career, so are valuable. They also have a social life with guy friends who give them emotional support, so when they meet a girl they're not as needy on the girl. The big illusion that marketers sell and a lot of gullible guys don't realise is that learning seduction skills isn't necessary or required. I've met guys who do nothing with their life but read seduction books, and still c… | /r/seduction | 18/03/21 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Video of a date of a guy with game and a girl?Here is a video of 6 common mistakes guys make during dates. The entire thing is staged, but it teaches a lot. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=udHWLHQ51JA | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Officially reached 200 notches!Thank you for your detailed response, I appreciate it. Thanks also for your tip on how you like listening to girls and being genuinely interested in them. I've noticed when I am interested and listening to them, the interactions go a lot better. You've also had a lot of experience, which is very disciplined. That's impressive you were going out 4 to 7 nights a week when you first started. And having the jobs you had would definitely have made a lot of those skills instinctual. You had a solid st… | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 09:55 AM |
| 2 | Keeping A Convo Flowing - Dating AppsI'm not sure how to reply to this msg of hers. She might just be someone who isn't very conversational, or maybe you need to try a new topic, or another way to get her to open up about this topic. If it were me, I would say something like "Trips that go well and you enjoy are awesome. I once went to LOCATION and enjoyed it because of REASON." By saying this, I hope she will either ask me about it. Or feel comfortable enough to then say what she enjoyed about her trip, as sometimes others are onl… | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 07:47 AM |
| 3 | Officially reached 200 notches!What created the biggest improvements in your game? Was it something like changing friendship groups, or was there a dating coach or guru who you learnt a lot from, etc. | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 06:35 AM |
| 3 | Didn't use it, lost it? (20M)I didn't quite understand your post OP. Are you saying you used to be good at dating girls, then took a 3 year break from the game, and now you've lost it? If that's what you meant, then I've heard of that happening before. It will just be about going out there, practising, and relearning it. It will be easier the 2nd time around. But if you meant something else, please explain it to me. Sorry, I'm not very good at reading and understanding everything I read. | /r/seduction | 16/03/21 04:58 AM |
| 2 | How I found out my truth by reading Mark Mason's book Models and it's impact on how I'll treat women.That's great you were willing to dig deep and face the pain! It must have been a hard and humbling experience, which is why not many guys do it. Well done on putting in the effort to look within. Epiphanies like these which we have about ourselves are what makes us better men. | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Had a great night last night. I approached 3 girls and got rejected by all 3. But I met 2 really nice guys who I connected with and became friends. We're going to catch up next week. Having good guy friends will indirectly help you with girls, but some men don't realize that.I actually think having guy friends is considered normal behavior. Spending all the time chasing girls is weird behavior. And having supportive guy friends with the right values makes it easier to attract girls. | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Had a great night last night. I approached 3 girls and got rejected by all 3. But I met 2 really nice guys who I connected with and became friends. We're going to catch up next week. Having good guy friends will indirectly help you with girls, but some men don't realize that.Yeah, the guy friends have to be guys who respect girls as well, otherwise they poison and corrupt your mind. Thanks buddy. Glad you like this post. | /r/seduction | 15/03/21 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.I think it takes men a long time to learn because lack of confidence so feel the need to impress. And also possibly lack of conversation skills. I used to brag because I didn't know what else to say to a girl. But when I put in the time to improve my conversation skills, and learn how to listen, make jokes, talk about my feelings and thoughts, then I had plenty to keep a conversation going. And now I brag less, but i still brag a little because it's a old habit, though I'm slowly eliminating it … | /r/seduction | 14/03/21 01:04 PM |
| 5 | Had a great night last night. I approached 3 girls and got rejected by all 3. But I met 2 really nice guys who I connected with and became friends. We're going to catch up next week. Having good guy friends will indirectly help you with girls, but some men don't realize that.I see the right guy friends as being able to provide emotional support, and be people to spend time with so you're not as needy on girl. It's a bonus if your guy friends are better with girls than you so you can learn from them, but it's not a necessary qualification for them to be your guy friend. As long as they support you, respect you, and don't try to steal/pick up a girl you're talking to, then I think that's enough. In addition to guy friends, you can also have female friends to ask quest… | /r/seduction | 14/03/21 04:17 AM |
| 1 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.That's a great explanation of the difference between the two! Well said. | /r/seduction | 14/03/21 12:46 AM |
| 2 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Agree completely. Changing beliefs and thought patterns is a lot harder, and can take months, or years. But learning routines or PUA tricks takes less than 5 minutes, which is why some guys prefer that. But natural game gives way more effective results. | /r/seduction | 13/03/21 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.How would you describe them, and where am I wrong? Asking bc I'm genuinely curious and always open to learn from others. | /r/seduction | 13/03/21 05:42 AM |
| 1 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.I've heard of him, but never read his stuff yet. I will check him out. Thanks for telling me. | /r/seduction | 13/03/21 05:41 AM |
| 1 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Great example and explanation. Thanks for taking the time to tell me that. Much appreciated. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 10:43 PM |
| 2 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Hey buddy, nothing wrong with going against the grain. I like hearing all opinions. Interesting point on how Mystery using routines gets him into state and he becomes a natural. And RSD then decided to go straight into state at the beginning. I guess if not for Mystery, RSD might not have been here teaching natural game. I think guys doing natural game do learn from doing all those approaches, just in a different way. They learn how to keep a conversation going, become less intimidated of girls … | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 10:09 PM |
| 2 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Those books are powerful. Completely agree that there's no substitute for experience. When a person combines reading those 3 books with a lot of action and experience, he reaches a whole new level. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 05:08 PM |
| 4 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Yeah, it is a complex book. I've read it 3 times and have new epiphanies each time. And I plan to read it more in the future. It's one of those books that takes time to digest. Following Models philosophy can be frustrating at times, but I think the long-term benefits make it worthwhile. It changes a person at the core and the way they think. It's definitely not easy. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 08:20 AM |
| 3 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.Thanks for sharing your story. "Models makes you a high value man and the only women who are going to be attracted to you and trust you at the same time are the most confident and emotionally healthy ones." Very good point. I also like what you said that you get rejected a lot, even more than before reading Models. I personally think that's good bc it means you're showing the real you, and polarizing people. Less people will like you, but those who do are the right ones and will stick around for… | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 06:53 AM |
| 5 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.I think a lot of guys look for women to be validation. I think it has to do with the way some elements of society and media portray women. As well as other guys talking about women in that manner. It takes a lot of self-esteem to not want to impress others, and empathy towards women, to escape this validation trap. It's not easy, but if you can do it, you will connect with women a lot better and become more of a 'natural'. I used to be like that when I was younger, especially bc I had the wrong … | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 03:40 AM |
| -1 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.That's interesting you mentioned autistic convo overlaps. I have heard that autistic men can be more likely to fall victim to dodgy marketers. That's something that makes me feel sad and I think is unfair. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 03:31 AM |
| 2 | I personally don't think anyone should study old school pick-up like 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, etc. They may have played a role in shaping modern dating advice. But they are not useful anymore. I feel they were 'growing pains', or an early prototype, that can now be discarded.I personally think you will find Models more useful. It's not manipulative and it's based on honesty, embracing rejection, and not using girls for validation. I'm glad to hear you just started reading it. Let me know what you think of the difference in the two perspectives, and which you find more helpful. | /r/seduction | 12/03/21 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.I'm glad you like it. You're welcome. | /r/seduction | 11/03/21 02:45 AM |
| 2 | How many guys here actually approach?No worries buddy. I will send it to you when I'm done. :) | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Thanks for your comment. I'm glad to hear you agree with this too. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.That's very awesome you found a value to your life, learnt to love yourself, then found the love of your life. I'm glad such good things happened to you. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 07:56 AM |
| 6 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Completely accurate! | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 07:51 AM |
| 26 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.That's a very good point. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 07:50 AM |
| 3 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.That's very deep, that the best lessons are in the painful part, which most people run from or avoid. It's great you're trying to write a book. I feel you will have a lot of value to give to others with your book. That's really intense that you had a near-death experience. It must have been terrifying. I hope you're feeling better now. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 07:18 AM |
| 5 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Good points, and very well written. Great words! You sound like a poet, I really like your use of language. Where did you learn to write like that? I like writing in my spare time, but I've never written anything with the style of what you wrote. I'm curious about your writing background, and how can I learn to write like that? | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 06:34 AM |
| 54 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Absolutely true! Seeing them as friends/humans is such a healthy mindset. I've noticed a lot of guys who struggle with girls see them as objects. These guys also give off a different energy that makes girls feel uncomfortable and avoid them. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 06:20 AM |
| 12 | Girls are impressed by guys who don't try to impress them. This is why bragging or showing off causes girls to lose interest. This epiphany made me realize it's about connecting with them and learning more about them, their goals, hobbies, past, etc.Thank you! I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 05:27 AM |
| 21 | Some guys lives just suck. No matter what they do, how hard they work, they're pathetic, they go back to where they started, nothing changes. This is just true. And there are guys who are just lucky. They have it all. Partner, friends, career, money, look they have it without much effort.Yeah, I think they have a word for that, "survivorship bias", where we only notice the statistics of those who succeed, but aren't aware of those who didn't make it. There are unfortunately a lot of people who work hard and don't make it. But nobody talks about that. Luck and the circumstances we're born under plays a big role, but not everybody wants to accept that. I have autism, which gives me a lot of challenges. Despite all my planning and hard work I still fail. I try to be positive, but t… | /r/seduction | 10/03/21 03:31 AM |
| 2 | Working on myself had the biggest improvement in resultsGreat post! Especially what you said that a lot of problems pick-up try to fix will melt away when you do this. I agree with that completely. The 3 biggest factors in attraction, and which pick-up tries to fix are: confidence, not being needy, and conversation. But ironically pick-up can sometimes make you worse at these, whereas following your purpose can fix these. When you're chasing your mission you will be more confident. But when you become obsessed with pick up, your identity becomes more… | /r/seduction | 09/03/21 10:33 PM |
| 2 | If you are ignoring the basic responsibilities of your life and seeking external validation from women, no amount of women will make you happy.Ironically, that very attitude they are trying to fake is a natural byproduct of making your life revolve around yourself and being your own source of happiness and joy. Yeah! I think they observed naturals (who were guys who were happy with themselves and didn't need girls), and copied the external behaviour of naturals. But they didn't pay attention to what caused the naturals to automatically demonstrate those behaviours. Which is why the PUA's ultimately failed. They never did the hard work … | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Should I approach a married woman?Think about how her husband will feel. He can go into depression or commit suicide if something happens between you and his wife. Some men are really attached to their wives. I once met a guy who attempted suicide because his wife cheated on him. Thankfully he survived, but he has some permanent scars on his body from his failed suicide attempt. What if the husband of the woman you like kills himself because of what you do? My next sentence might sound mean, but I want you to realize I'm only sa… | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 06:46 PM |
| 6 | Should I approach a married woman?No, you should not approach a married woman. Have some empathy. There are guys who commit suicide because their wives cheat on them. Never go after married woman. Stay away from them. In a worst case scenario you can ruin a family, cause children to grow up in a broken home and have terrible future, and drive a husband to suicide. Please do not approach married women. You're better than that. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 06:07 PM |
| 3 | If you are ignoring the basic responsibilities of your life and seeking external validation from women, no amount of women will make you happy.Very powerful post! This is the type of stuff I like to read. It's about working hard over a long period of time to make something of yourself, so you're happy and have something to show for your time on this planet. This is the truth of what attracts girls. It's not about using tricks or trying to find a short-cut or magic pill. It's about putting in the hours of work on a consistent basis. Thanks for posting this. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 05:30 PM |
| 4 | If you are ignoring the basic responsibilities of your life and seeking external validation from women, no amount of women will make you happy.Completely true! I've noticed a lot of guys who struggle with women have made thinking about women the number one priority in their life. They give off a desperate vibe that causes them to struggle more. All the guys I know who are good at this have other things they focus on. They don't need women to be happy, and this causes women to chase them. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 05:23 PM |
| 7 | Unpopular but honest Opinion: LUCK is a huge factor.Luck plays an important role. Any dating coach who says he can get every girl he talks to is lying. Rejection will always happen. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 04:14 AM |
| 3 | 4 reasons why working on yourself and improving your lifestyle is the best thing you can do to improve your social skills.Luck is definitely a factor. I look forward to reading your post. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 02:41 AM |
| 2 | 4 reasons why working on yourself and improving your lifestyle is the best thing you can do to improve your social skills.I misunderstood something Tyler said. I thought he had used the word "cognitive dissonance" to describe something, when he hadn't. So it's not relevant to my post. Basically just forget I said it, lol. | /r/seduction | 08/03/21 01:59 AM |
| 3 | 4 reasons why working on yourself and improving your lifestyle is the best thing you can do to improve your social skills.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 07/03/21 11:56 PM |
| 2 | 4 reasons why working on yourself and improving your lifestyle is the best thing you can do to improve your social skills.I might have misheard Tyler. I just removed the words "cognitive dissonance" so I don't accidentally misinform people, lol. Thanks for pointing it out, I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 07/03/21 11:56 PM |
| 1 | 17 yo guy looking for book or yt channel recommendationsModels by Mark Manson. It's by far the best book I read on the subject of dating. | /r/seduction | 07/03/21 11:05 PM |
| 2 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.I didn't see that post. It's definitely not all down to looks. Looks count, especially in cold approaching, but a guy can still get dates. I'm not good-looking, but I have social hobbies and am good at social circle game to get dates. Being good-looking would definitely increase results, but it doesn't mean no dates for someone who isn't. | /r/seduction | 06/03/21 05:32 AM |
| 1 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyI unfortunately don't know how to read a person that well to identify things like that. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.I still want to be tyrannosaurus rex. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.I don't trust this comment. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyI don't think I do. Can you elaborate what you meant earlier by "communication process that isn't direct" with an example if possible? Do you mean if they have done communication classes? | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 09:15 PM |
| 2 | How many guys here actually approach?Thanks buddy, I appreciate that. I'm always looking for feedback to get better. I will send you the book in a few months when it's done. :) | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.That would be awesome! It will help a lot of guys. I really do hope you write that post. :) | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.We all need help to reach the next level. And those humble enough to admit it are the ones who grow. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 07:27 PM |
| 5 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.My post wasn't very clear that I think there are some good points in a sea of bad information. I just updated it to make my post more clear. Thanks for pointing it out. :) | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 07:22 PM |
| 4 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.Well done on getting such great results! Maybe you should think about staying here to help the less experienced guys who need your guidance. Or you can write a post explaining how you got to where you are, what were the lessons you learnt, what resources helped you, etc, so others can learn from you. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyIt's definitely a complicated situation. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 06:14 PM |
| 8 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.We're not losers, we're people trying to improve ourselves. We just need to be careful not to take advice from losers. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 05:57 PM |
| 1 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyThat would be a terrible feeling to have someone use you like that and exploit your caring nature. It would hurt a lot for them to do that, then discard you when they were done. It's like they don't see you as a human being, but just an object for them to use. It's a valid concern you have. Unfortunately you're right, these bad guys target the weak and vulnerable. Those are easy targets for their manipulative behaviour. It boosts their ego, and for a lot of them this becomes the purpose of their… | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 05:49 PM |
| 5 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experiences. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy who has never been on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website, or forum post.Good point. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Don't blindly trust what you read. Think about it. Compare it to your own experience. Remember that in today's internet world, anyone can write anything. A guy living in his mom's basement who has never gone on a date, or even made eye contact with a girl, can write an ebook, website or forum post.I clarified in my last paragraph that it's only if a guy lives in his mom's basement and isn't good with girls, but is giving advice on girls then I have a problem with it. If he lives in his mom's basement but is good with girls, then I have nothing against him giving advice on girls. I agree with you that looks and willingness to move on from rejection are big factors for success in this. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 12:14 PM |
| 1 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyCommunication between man and woman can be complicated and not always clear. And it's definitely not easy to find a genuine person who we can connect with. I feel it might be even harder in today's world. But you're on the right path of looking for resources to help you avoid the wrong people. Just wondering, what are some examples of your black and white ideas about seduction? | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 06:28 AM |
| 1 | How many guys here actually approach?No worries mate. I will send it to you too. | /r/seduction | 05/03/21 01:59 AM |
| 1 | How many guys here actually approach?I will buddy. | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 10:41 PM |
| 10 | How many guys here actually approach?Hey buddy, I'm actually writing a book about this, because I've had a lot of people asking me for advice on organizing events, building friendship groups, and social circle game. I'm happy to send you a free copy when it's done. It might be 5 or 6 months till it's finished. | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 08:45 PM |
| 27 | How many guys here actually approach?I don't cold approach. I have the social hobbies of dancing, painting and beach volleyball where I meet lots of people I share things in common with. I'm also really good at social circle game. I know how to organize fun events, build and maintain a friendship group, identify and cut out negative people who can ruin a friendship group, etc. It's a skill that took me a long time to learn. But it was worth it. My friends introduce me to their friends, who then introduce me to their friends. It's a… | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.Thanks bro, I appreciate your supportive words. Yeah, I think cold approaching isn't a practical strategy for everyone to use. It works for some guys, but not everyone. I appreciate you taking the time to leave your nice comment. I hope everything goes well for you. | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 01:35 PM |
| 1 | 5 Hard truths I’ve learned about game after 13 years of practice.This is completely true! I have a friend who is really good-looking. He has blonde hair, blue eyes, really good jawline, and has even done some modelling. Whenever we go out, girls always approach him. He doesn't know anything about game, and his conversation skills aren't that great, but he picks up like crazy. Once I was talking to a female friend of mine about him, and her exact words to me were "I don't need to have a conversation with him, I just like to look at him." Looks beat game any da… | /r/seduction | 04/03/21 10:20 AM |
| 8 | Mystery Methods are outdatedI think the younger generation might find it goes against social norms to have strangers talking to them as it doesn't happen often. There are 2 reasons for this: The first reason is social media like Facebook, Instagram, etc, makes it easier to keep in contact with friends, so there's less need to meet new people to refill the number of people in your social circle. Whereas before social media you had more reason to meet new people, because it was a lot easier to lose contact with friends. Most… | /r/seduction | 03/03/21 07:15 PM |
| 7 | I’m a woman who wants to recognize when seduction techniques are being used on me - please tell me what to studyThere are 2 types of guys who 'seduce' girls: Group 1 = Men with low self-esteem who use tricks, try to lower a girl's self-esteem, and do other negative stuff. Some them see women as objects to use to impress others, as they lack true confidence. Some of them are also terrified of rejection, so they tell lies to avoid it. But telling lies to gain acceptance just further lowers their self-esteem, which creates a downward spiral for them. These were the guys who read and follow "The Game" by Neil… | /r/seduction | 03/03/21 05:58 PM |
| 212 | Well... today I cold approached....I actually think what you wrote in the last paragraph is related to this sub. You met a guy you got along with, and can hopefully make a new guy friend. I think in seduction there are things that directly improve your skills, such as approaching girls, practise conversation with them, etc. Then there are things that indirectly improve your skills. Like having goals more important than girls makes you less needy on girls for happiness, and more passionate about life. This causes you to give off a… | /r/seduction | 03/03/21 01:37 PM |
| 3 | The amount of theory here to find women is nonsensical, does it really have to be?You make a good point. I feel it's not just this sub but other places as well, like YouTube videos, websites, etc, where dating is made to appear more complicated than it really is. I've seen videos of dating coaches plotting graphs and drawing complex tables to explain their points. You would think they were solving quantum maths equations or working on rocket science. For whatever reason, a lot of people like to overcomplicate this. | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 08:55 AM |
| 2 | Awkward hot girl wants your helpThat's awesome, you're on fire bro! Sounds like you have a lot of great and fun activities planned. Keep it up. | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 08:12 AM |
| 2 | Awkward hot girl wants your helpThere might still be a lot of places closed now depending on which area you're in. If they are closed, then you can still use this time indoors wisely. Here's an article I wrote a few months ago. You may already be doing this, or you may disagree and ignore this post. But here is the post in case it can be useful for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ghn4h0/the_best_way_to_impress_girls_is_to_have_better/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Awkward hot girl wants your helpThey closed for a few months last year, but they opened up again in January. Although they limit classes to maximum 20 people. | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Awkward hot girl wants your helpYou're welcome. All the best. | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 07:26 AM |
| 3 | Awkward hot girl wants your helpA few weeks ago I actually met a girl who went through this. She was this really pretty girl I met at a friend's party. When I was talking to her, we got onto the topic of confidence, and she told me she used to have terrible social anxiety and was afraid of talking to people. But then she took up the social hobby of dancing where she met a lot of people, and could also practise expressing herself. She said doing that got her out of her shell and made her more confident. She became better at tal… | /r/seduction | 01/03/21 06:40 AM |
| 3 | Ever tried The social man's course?I don't trust courses in this industry. There's no independent organisation to check them, and a lot of courses by dating companies have a reputation for being dodgy and overpriced. I think you can learn more from a few reliable books that you read a few times for their knowledge to sink in, combined with lots of practise. A few books that helped me: Models by Mark Manson. No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover. Way Of The Superior Man by David Deida. 3% Man by Corey Wayne. | /r/seduction | 28/02/21 12:27 PM |
| 1 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.Nice to hear from another autistic. I think this journey is harder for us, so we can't compare ourselves to others, which took me a long time to learn. Completely agree with not taking in theory. Practise and real world experience counts for a lot more. | /r/seduction | 28/02/21 08:03 AM |
| 1 | IntrovertGood luck. | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 09:04 PM |
| 1 | IntrovertThat's awesome to hear you have girls approach you! It sounds to me like you need to find a way to become less shy. Maybe write down a list of the times girls approached you and look at that list to remind yourself you're attractive and girls will like talking to you. Doing affirmations and visualization to reprogram your mind might also be useful. These are just suggestions, as I'm not a trained professional. | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 08:44 PM |
| 3 | Pickup nerdery: What happened to Real Social Dynamics?That's very true. The guys who focus on improving themselves will automatically do a lot better. I'm actually glad the community is moving towards focusing on self-help and improving oneself, and attracting girls is a side effect of living an awesome life. It's a healthier and more natural way to connect with girls than the tricks and routines of the old school pick-up community. | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 08:36 PM |
| 3 | Pickup nerdery: What happened to Real Social Dynamics?From what I understand they left the pick up and dating industry. They now teach general self-help and other stuff. I read that Tyler said it was too difficult to keep running his dating company in today's world, and there were too many people against his dating business. So he quit and went to safer and less controversial areas. Which I think he can pull off, as he is a great public speaker and marketer. | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 06:51 PM |
| 2 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.If a guy is always talking about girls like they are objects, or he's trying to convince others he is a player, or if in a conversation with him he keeps bringing the conversation back to girls. This is a sign he is too emotionally invested in girls and need girls. The guys I've met who are really good with girls never talk about girls, or try to convince others they are players. They don't see girls as objects to use to impress others. They also don't talk much about how "this girl is really pr… | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 08:54 AM |
| 3 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.Thanks for the question. I did dancing classes, beach volleyball, and painting. You have to join bc you're actually interested in the activity and not just to meet girls. And you also make friends with both the guys and girls. This was before Corona, and I had a lot of fun with these. I had a friend who got into cosplay and he made a lot of friends there. Find something that interests you. There are plenty of hobbies, and you can use meet up or Facebook groups to find groups or clubs in your are… | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 08:37 AM |
| 3 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.Thanks buddy. I did dancing classes, beach volleyball, and painting. You have to join bc you're actually interested in the activity and not just to meet girls. And you also make friends with both the guys and girls. This was before Corona, and I had a lot of fun with these. I had a friend who got into cosplay and he made a lot of friends there. Find something that interests you. There are plenty of hobbies, and you can use meet up or Facebook groups to find groups or clubs in your area. To build… | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 10:20 PM |
| 5 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.That's awesome to hear you're doing so many classes! It inspires me to do more. There are so many great skills we can learn. And it definitely increases our Value. Yeah, I've noticed I actually have more luck finding girls I'm compatible with and have qualities I look for through classes or social hobbies. It's a really effective way to increase my happiness and build the social life I want. Thanks for your encouragement. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 07:43 PM |
| 5 | I'm not handsome, I have autism, and am a foreigner in a Western country. I tried cold approaching and failed. Then I tried having social hobbies and building social circles, and got results. If cold approach doesn't work for you, it doesn't mean quit and be lonely. It means change your strategy.Yeah, it's not a good feeling to see your friends repeating the same mistake of failing at cold approaching over and over, then give up on trying to meet people. And they don't realise that with some effort at the beginning, they can build a lifestyle that allows them to easily meet people they share things in common with. It was very nice of you to try to explain it to them and help them. Thanks for your encouragement and support. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 07:01 PM |
| 104 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupCompletely agree with this! I had a phase in my life where all I did was read and think about game, and try to meet girls, and I did a lot worse. Then I decided to spend 95% of my time working on other things (my career, hobbies, exercising, etc) and only 5% of my time on game and meeting girls. And my results with girls went up. I gave off a different energy that was less needy, and girls could also sense I had priorities that were more important than them. I've even had girls approach me, some… | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 06:20 AM |
| 2 | Conversation with a Hungarian Dude - There is no Pick Up in HungaryDancing classes, beach volleyball, and painting. You have to join bc you're actually interested in the activity and not just to meet girls. And you also make friends with both the guys and girls. This was before Corona, and I had a lot of fun with these. I had a friend who got into cosplay and he made a lot of friends there. Find something that interests you. There are plenty of hobbies, and you can use meet up or Facebook groups to find groups or clubs in your area. | /r/seduction | 23/02/21 12:14 PM |
| 6 | Conversation with a Hungarian Dude - There is no Pick Up in Hungary"We don't talk with girls in the street. In a party or a club, it all happens naturally. If you're an attractive guy, you'll get girls. It's that simple." That sums up pick-up. Game and techniques mean nothing. A guy who's attractive doesn't need them. A guy who is lucky to be born good-looking will always have a big advantage in cold approaching and pick-up, and no amount of ebooks or DVD's sold by marketers will change that. If a guy is ugly like me, then it's about finding a way to meet girls… | /r/seduction | 23/02/21 09:04 AM |
| 2 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?You're welcome. 🙂👍 | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 07:33 AM |
| 1 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?That would cost quite a bit. Unless he found a way to do it cheaply, or he thinks the cost is worth it to give him an advantage in attracting clients over his competitors who can do nothing now. Glad to encourage you! Send me a PM in a few months to let me know how you're going. I think this is an exciting journey you're going on. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 07:21 AM |
| 1 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?That's awesome you have really good word of mouth and reputation going for you. I'm happy to hear that. Lol, he's just ignoring Covid completely. It's like he found a way to avoid it completely. | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 06:44 AM |
| 1 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?Yeah, you're right. It may stay like this for a long time. It's a crazy time right now. Send me a PM with your website or social media details, I always like seeing other people's perspective on game. I hope you do find out how Julien is doing it. He might have figured out something others haven't if he's doing this during Covid. | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 05:25 AM |
| 1 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?I just checked out his Instagram. He has some put up some stories from a few months ago. I'm not sure if he filmed them before Covid or during. His Instagram seems to be all about self-help and spirituality type stuff. RSD has gone off in a different direction. But I do agree it is unsafe if he's doing these stuff during Covid without a mask. Unless he's in another country where Covid isn't as bad, I'm not sure how he's doing this and not getting in trouble. That's interesting you want to teach … | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 04:36 AM |
| 1 | I want to keep conducting my own pickup seminars, but how can I do this with Covid social distancing measures? I notice RSD instructors are still doing seminars in-person somehow?That's interesting you say RSD is doing in person. I thought RSD stopped teaching pick-up a year ago and moved to general self-help and other areas. They took down most of their pick-up videos on YouTube. | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 04:13 AM |
| 31 | 1 girl is a anomaly. 10 girls is a trend. 100 girls is your reality.Great post! I completely agree that experience is the difference between guys who become good at this and guys who never improve. You mentioned that one of the things 100 girls told you is less is more. Can you please explain what do you mean by that? Do you mean as in running less 'game' and not trying so hard, or something else? | /r/seduction | 21/02/21 07:22 PM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.Very good point that a healthy support system requires creation and maintenance. Not everyone seems to realise that. Thank you for your comment. I hope your partner will be able to build a support system. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.That's good to hear. Keep moving forwards, and don't let the darkness of others pull you down. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.I personally don't think it is. I think having lots of guy friends is a big plus, it's good you have that area of your life handled. Now you need to look at the other areas. For instance, conversation skills, having a social hobby that girls also enjoy doing (not very practical now during corona, but something to look into after corona), having a purpose or long-term goals in life that you work towards, and feeling confident or worthy of being liked by girls. In my experience if a guy can have t… | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.That's terrible to hear you lost your last two relationships. I hope you're feeling better now. Completely agree. A man who can deal with his problems without her is very attractive to women. Thanks for your comment. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.Hey bro, that sucks big time that happened to you. I feel your pain. I used to have guy friends who always tried to steal girls who liked spending time with me. Some of them even said bad things about me behind my back to girls I introduced them to, so they could make themselves look good at my expense. It was a difficult period for me, and I had to cut out a lot of guy friends. A strategy I came up to deal with this is when a girl I'm friends with introduces me to a guy friend of hers, I try to… | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 06:22 AM |
| 3 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.That is so true! I've often thought about how Hollywood and stories give the false idea that it should just be a man and a woman against the world. And that just leads to problems for anyone who follows that. It should be the man and his group or tribe of friends, along with the woman and her tribe of friends, who face the world. We humans are tribal creatures. We survive best when we're part of a tribe. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.Really good point. Thanks for posting this. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 02:34 AM |
| 14 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.Very true. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.It's not the be all end all solution, but I think its an important part of the solution a lot of guys overlook. | /r/seduction | 20/02/21 02:30 AM |
| 18 | Have a few reliable male friends. Some guys struggle with girls bc they have no guy friends, so they depend on the girl to give them all their emotional support, or help them everytime they're in trouble. Learning to make and keep good male friends is an important skill that's not practised enough.That's true a guy's friends doesn't need to be only male. He can have female friends in addition to his male friends. But in my opinion female friends are not a replacement for male friends. | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Are there any advanced seduction subs on reddit?I noticed a lot of forums did disappear. Most lairs are gone, along with a lot of the major forums and websites. While there were a lot of junk, there were also some golden nuggets of wisdom. It's a shame there isn't an environment with just quality information to help those new to this. Unfortunately the scammers and fake gurus wrecked it for a lot of people. | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 03:55 PM |
| 6 | Are there any advanced seduction subs on reddit?I don't know if there is. I personally think the problem with online forums is that anyone can pretend to be an expert. So there will be people who want validation, and pretend to be experts, when they have no idea what they're saying. Then they get a bunch of upvotes, which boosts their self-esteem, so they continue posting more nonsense. Whereas a lot of guys who are good at this would rather be out there picking up girls instead of arguing with keyboard warriors. I'm not saying all experience… | /r/seduction | 19/02/21 02:17 PM |
| 2 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.That's very good advice! Working on yourself, exercising, having a healthy way to deal with problems such as therapy or meditation all make a person more attractive than anything else can. But unfortunately a lot of guys don't want to hear this. They prefer the lie of learning lines in 5 minutes so they can avoid the hard work. And PUAs and marketers take advantage of this. I like how you focus on self-care to attract guys. That's very healthy, and by doing that you also feel good whether you ha… | /r/seduction | 18/02/21 07:34 AM |
| 2 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.That must have been a really unexpected feeling to have him use those lines you watched. Glad you got out of there. Thanks for sharing your story. I agree it definitely seems to be all about targeting desperate or gullible guys. It misleads them and sends them on the wrong path. I've met guys who wasted years learning lines and tricks and are still miserable and lonely. Whereas they could have invested all that time into their career, or finding what makes them happy, or improving themselves. | /r/seduction | 18/02/21 03:16 AM |
| 3 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.Those coaches tell all kinds of lies to trick people into giving them money. | /r/seduction | 16/02/21 10:22 AM |
| 2 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.When I say 'The Game', I mean that book written by Neil Strauss, where he teaches PUA tactics which are bad in my opinion. If you mean guys should learn charisma, and healthy social skills (like what Manson wrote in his book Models), then I completely agree with you. | /r/seduction | 16/02/21 08:58 AM |
| 4 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.Depends what your definition of 'PUA' is. If you mean social skills, then it's good. But if you mean what they teach in 'The Game' or those selling weird products on 'magic words to get girls', etc, then I personally think it's not good. The chapter on social skills that Mark Manson teaches in his book Models is the type of healthy social skills I think guys should learn. It's based on honesty, and just teaches guys how to have better conversations and make jokes while being themselves. | /r/seduction | 16/02/21 08:42 AM |
| 9 | I wonder how many guys in the seduction community are actually high value vs how many of them are trying to create the illusion of high value.PUAs still exist, although not as much before. I spent some time searching 'dating coaches' on YouTube, and now I get ads trying to sell me programs to "get girls to approach you" and "7 magic words for girls to fall madly in love with you". Those dodgy marketers are still there. I think OP is trying to warn those new to this to not just focus on charisma (social skills), but also their career. I get what you're saying, that not all coaches are bad. Some formulas are more effective, but there ar… | /r/seduction | 16/02/21 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Don't chase women, focus on your life purpose.When someone has better things to do than chase people, then they become more attractive. I have a rule where I always place my purpose and work ahead of partying and meeting new people. Socialislzing is only something I do to relax after working hard, it's never my number one aim in life. | /r/seduction | 15/02/21 08:06 AM |
| 66 | 90% of the dating coaches out there are full of shit and they can make you infertile.These dating coaches take advantage of the fact there is a low barrier to enter this profession. All they need is a website and a few pics of themselves with women, and they're then 'qualified' to be a dating coach. In other industries it's a lot harder. If you want to be a good accountant, you have to spend 3 or more years at university to get an accounting degree, then spend another 3 years to complete your CPA or CA while getting work experience. You need at least 6 years of hard work. And th… | /r/seduction | 15/02/21 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' is a really great book! That's one of my favourite books. It sounds like you know what you're doing. I'm glad you're learning from healthy resources. Good luck with everything. | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 04:43 AM |
| 2 | What are your honest, unfiltered opinions on the state of seduction coaching?I personally think it's not worth it. You can get the information for free from YouTube, websites or forums. Or pay a few dollars for good books. I think if a guy puts in the effort to find 2 or 3 other guys he can go out with and they help and motivate each other over a few months, this will be more useful than a few days with a 'coach' telling him to go and approach. | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.I named myself after the DC character Metron, who spends his time observing people and studying books to collect information. I can then hopefully pass this knowledge on to others who want it. | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.It stands for Pick Up Artists, which was meant to be a movement to teach men to connect with women. Unfortunately it has a lot of fake gurus and teachers with no moral principles, and there is a lot of toxic stuff in PUA. It has a really bad reputation at the moment in society and the media. It's dying, and may possibly become an underground movement in 3 to 5 years, if not sooner. It's not worth joining this negative movement and men should stay away from it. There's a book called 'Models' by M… | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 10:29 PM |
| 16 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Not being needy definitely seems to be one of the biggest factors in attracting women. I'm also glad to hear when you're in a relationship you're committed to that lucky woman and don't care about others. You sound like a great guy! Keep it up. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Thanks. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 09:29 AM |
| 34 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Very true. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.Thanks. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 09:29 AM |
| -6 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.If there are two men who are equally attractive and have the same level of social skills, but one sees women as human beings and the other sees women as objects, then the man who sees them as humans will have much better results than the man who sees them as objects. | /r/seduction | 07/02/21 09:21 AM |
| 4 | What's with all these dating gurus transitioning to business niche?Completely agree. Improving oneself and being productive is the best way to become more attractive. | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 08:37 AM |
| 2 | What's with all these dating gurus transitioning to business niche?The dating niche isn't a solid stream of income for several reasons: 1) A guy can work hard to be successful and find a partner without having any dating skills. I've met plenty of guys with little or no social skills, but they have a good career, or good physique, and because of that have found a partner as a side-effect of focusing on themselves. Despite what the 'PUA' say to sell things, the truth is learning dating skills are optional, not mandatory. Whereas learning how to look after health… | /r/seduction | 06/02/21 08:10 AM |
| 4 | How to seduce a woman in a relationship?Don't seduce a woman in a relationship. Have some kindness and empathy, don't hurt the guy she's in a relationship with. If you succeed in seducing her, even if the other guy doesn't find out, it will still make her less attracted to him. You will damage their relationship. There are plenty of single girls you can seduce. Don't go after girls in relationships. | /r/seduction | 24/01/21 06:00 PM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.That would help me a lot! I will be really grateful for that. :) | /r/seduction | 05/01/21 11:33 AM |
| 2 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.I will need to look into that program. Thanks for telling me about it. Thanks also for your help and advice. I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 05/01/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Hey buddy, thanks for your explanation, I appreciate it. I think I made the mistake of using too many spikes, like the beginners do. From my understanding of this now, I think there should be more straight line conversation than spikes. Would you agree or disagree with this? | /r/seduction | 04/01/21 09:35 AM |
| 4 | Recommendations NeededDon't use negging, that's mean and it doesn't give results. Don't read books that teaches you to use tricks like that, or to try to lower another person's self-esteem. The best book to read is Models by Mark Manson. It teaches to be honest and genuine to connect with others. It's a healthier and more effective way. | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 06:52 AM |
| 6 | Build a foundation of having more important things than girls, and design your life so you don't need girls for your happiness and self-esteem. Then when you go out to meet girls, you will have better results. If you need girls to be happy or impress others, you will struggle a lot more with this.Interesting you ask this. I actually wrote a post a few months ago with some ideas of hobbies or skills to develop during Covid. I hope you find it useful. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ghn4h0/the_best_way_to_impress_girls_is_to_have_better/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share | /r/seduction | 10/12/20 11:38 AM |
| 2 | Build a foundation of having more important things than girls, and design your life so you don't need girls for your happiness and self-esteem. Then when you go out to meet girls, you will have better results. If you need girls to be happy or impress others, you will struggle a lot more with this.Very good point. | /r/seduction | 10/12/20 08:32 AM |
| 3 | Build a foundation of having more important things than girls, and design your life so you don't need girls for your happiness and self-esteem. Then when you go out to meet girls, you will have better results. If you need girls to be happy or impress others, you will struggle a lot more with this.Thanks for sharing what you read. It was nice to read that. | /r/seduction | 10/12/20 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Build a foundation of having more important things than girls, and design your life so you don't need girls for your happiness and self-esteem. Then when you go out to meet girls, you will have better results. If you need girls to be happy or impress others, you will struggle a lot more with this.Completely true. | /r/seduction | 10/12/20 06:33 AM |
| 3 | Build a foundation of having more important things than girls, and design your life so you don't need girls for your happiness and self-esteem. Then when you go out to meet girls, you will have better results. If you need girls to be happy or impress others, you will struggle a lot more with this.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 10/12/20 06:33 AM |
| 4 | 2021 12 Month Challenge!It is, in a way, your foundation. Before learning about all of the seduction “tricks”, you first need to ask yourself if you are proud of who you are as a person. This is so wise and true. I've been thinking a lot about this recently. That a lot of guys who struggle with seduction don't have this foundation of self-esteem and not needing girl. If a guy can develop himself and his lifestyle to be confident and happy without girl, all of a sudden seduction becomes a lot easier. In some cases, he w… | /r/seduction | 05/12/20 11:58 PM |
| 2 | 2021 12 Month Challenge!I think self-improvement is the best thing a person can do to become better at social skills or seduction. When you are focused on improving yourself, you become: 1) Less needy on girls or people because your time and emotions are invested in self-improvement activities. 2) More confident because you see yourself improving. 3) Better conversation skills because you are doing more things and have more to talk about. 4) You have purpose and direction, which is attractive to girls. All the above qu… | /r/seduction | 05/12/20 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on a dating coach?I would like to hear about this if you're willing to send me a private message as well. I've also heard from others not to trust dating coaches. | /r/seduction | 29/11/20 10:01 AM |
| 1 | KNOWING a lot is not the same as being able to DO it. There is a guy who knows 500 pages of information on how to make cakes, but has never made a cake in his life. Then there is a guy who can explain in a short time how he makes cakes, and has made cakes that won awards. Who would you rather be?I'm glad it helped you. Thanks for letting me know it was useful. | /r/seduction | 22/11/20 11:31 AM |
| 1 | KNOWING a lot is not the same as being able to DO it. There is a guy who knows 500 pages of information on how to make cakes, but has never made a cake in his life. Then there is a guy who can explain in a short time how he makes cakes, and has made cakes that won awards. Who would you rather be?Do you mean you want to change to take in less information? I think the thing to realise is that depending on what subject it is, too much information can be a good or bad thing. If you're studying history, a lot of info is good. If you're studying seduction or martial arts, too much info is bad. Keep a few things in mind when collecting information: 1) Not all info is equal. Some info gives more results than others. Learn that little info that gives the most results. 2) You don't need to know 1… | /r/seduction | 20/11/20 06:03 PM |
| 2 | KNOWING a lot is not the same as being able to DO it. There is a guy who knows 500 pages of information on how to make cakes, but has never made a cake in his life. Then there is a guy who can explain in a short time how he makes cakes, and has made cakes that won awards. Who would you rather be?Too much information is bad. | /r/seduction | 20/11/20 04:47 PM |
| 1 | KNOWING a lot is not the same as being able to DO it. There is a guy who knows 500 pages of information on how to make cakes, but has never made a cake in his life. Then there is a guy who can explain in a short time how he makes cakes, and has made cakes that won awards. Who would you rather be?Haha, sorry to let you down. | /r/seduction | 20/11/20 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes you need to forget or 'unlearn' everything you thought you knew about a subject, to reach a higher level of understanding. Old knowledge can block us from learning new knowledge or having revolutionary insights. I feel this concept can be useful to some who studied too much seduction.That's very interesting. Thanks for telling me this. Can you please explain to me what you did and why it caused you to become good at it? | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Sometimes you need to forget or 'unlearn' everything you thought you knew about a subject, to reach a higher level of understanding. Old knowledge can block us from learning new knowledge or having revolutionary insights. I feel this concept can be useful to some who studied too much seduction.I know the feeling of just collecting info. It happens to a lot of us. Completely agree with you that a lot of people have the basic knowledge for success. | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Sometimes you need to forget or 'unlearn' everything you thought you knew about a subject, to reach a higher level of understanding. Old knowledge can block us from learning new knowledge or having revolutionary insights. I feel this concept can be useful to some who studied too much seduction.You're welcome. :) | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 05:32 AM |
| 3 | Seduction Books'Models' by Mark Manson. That book is the best book in my opinion. | /r/seduction | 17/11/20 04:37 AM |
| 2 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Great post, thanks. I've noticed that about using the word "feel" too! Whenever I say "I felt this," it makes the conversation better. That word is powerful. Thanks for taking the time to write this up. I appreciate it. I feel happy reading this. :) | /r/seduction | 05/11/20 08:10 PM |
| 2 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Thanks for the answer. But what about not using spikes, as in just normal conversation. Is that important as well? If I use too many spikes, whether positive or negative, could that cause me to do worse? | /r/seduction | 05/11/20 06:38 AM |
| 1 | If you were to stop cold approaching for 1 year then start again, what would happen to your cold approach skills? Would they stay the same, drop down to zero, or become rusty and need a few months to get back to your peak?Thank you for your explanation. :) | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 01:56 PM |
| 1 | If you were to stop cold approaching for 1 year then start again, what would happen to your cold approach skills? Would they stay the same, drop down to zero, or become rusty and need a few months to get back to your peak?That's really cool. Can I ask what do you mean for a while? As in your results would be better for a few weeks then drop back down, or do you mean something else? Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 12:46 PM |
| 1 | If you were to stop cold approaching for 1 year then start again, what would happen to your cold approach skills? Would they stay the same, drop down to zero, or become rusty and need a few months to get back to your peak?Thanks for your answer. | /r/seduction | 19/10/20 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thank you! Glad you like it. | /r/seduction | 17/10/20 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Giving a girl space worksI like what you said about how when you became super busy with work she liked you more. I've noticed the same thing as well, that whenever I'm busy and have more important things in my life than girls, I become a lot more attractive to girls. | /r/seduction | 05/10/20 08:01 PM |
| 3 | If you're shallow, and put a girl on a pedestal bc of her looks, you will be nervous and try too hard to impress her, then get rejected. If you're not shallow, but judge a girl for what is inside and not outside, your behavior and energy will be different, and your results will be much better.Thanks for the support and encouragement bro, I appreciate it. I wasn't sure about posting this at first, bc it goes against the old school PU teachings and what some segments in society think. But then I thought if a few people can gain value from this it will be worth it. I'm glad a few people have found it helpful, and I was also happy to read your comment. Hope you keep being a real and awesome guy too. | /r/seduction | 03/10/20 12:54 AM |
| 30 | If you're shallow, and put a girl on a pedestal bc of her looks, you will be nervous and try too hard to impress her, then get rejected. If you're not shallow, but judge a girl for what is inside and not outside, your behavior and energy will be different, and your results will be much better.Some guys are like that. But some guys get into this, and realize they want something different. They realize it's not right to judge a girl by the way she looks. My thoughts do contradict traditional PUA advice. I don't believe in giving girls a rating on a scale of 1 to 10 based on their physical appearance. I also don't believe in going for the 'hottest' girl in the room. If I'm at a party, class, or event, and I see a girl not considered 'attractive' being ignored by everyone else, I will go… | /r/seduction | 02/10/20 09:00 PM |
| 40 | If you're shallow, and put a girl on a pedestal bc of her looks, you will be nervous and try too hard to impress her, then get rejected. If you're not shallow, but judge a girl for what is inside and not outside, your behavior and energy will be different, and your results will be much better.Look for what is inside the girl. Write down the qualities you want in a girl. Maybe you want a girl with a sense of humor, or who is hard-working, etc. You can write a list of hobbies/interests you would like a girl to have, maybe you want a girl who likes travelling, or who likes reading, or enjoys being outdoors in nature, etc. Next time you see a 'hot' girl, realize that you are only nervous in front of her bc you assigned her a lot of value. But that value is just your opinion, it's not rea… | /r/seduction | 02/10/20 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Why Being “Funny” Is Killing Your Attraction [Dancing Monkey Syndrome]I find for me being a perfectionist is an interesting mix. It's good bc I do more work, but it's bad bc I'm too hard on myself or wait too long to take action. You're absolutely right that just need to figure it out as I go along. Thanks for your kind words. You were also very good at explaining it in a way that I could understand. :) I will definitely send you a msg in the future with any other ideas or updates about my game. I learnt a lot from talking to you. :) | /r/seduction | 27/09/20 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Why Being “Funny” Is Killing Your Attraction [Dancing Monkey Syndrome]Thank you for writing this! Reading this made me feel a lot better. I always think I have to do more and put too much pressure on myself. I stress out a lot bc of that. Reading all these reasons not to try so hard is really helpful for me. I really appreciate you writing this. :) That's a very good point that if someone does too much it can make the person feel inadequate. This is very true, I don't know why I never thought of this. Thanks for pointing it out! That makes total sense that it can … | /r/seduction | 27/09/20 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Why Being “Funny” Is Killing Your Attraction [Dancing Monkey Syndrome]Thanks for taking the time to give me feedback. I appreciate it. :) There is one question I have. So if you met a guy who wasn't making jokes or telling interesting stories all the time, but he only did that occasionally, and the rest of the time he was calm and relaxed, would that be better than the guy who was always making jokes and telling interesting stories all the time? Why or why not? Sorry for the detailed question, but this is a concept I've been struggling with for a while. Thank you … | /r/seduction | 27/09/20 09:33 AM |
| 2 | Why Being “Funny” Is Killing Your Attraction [Dancing Monkey Syndrome]Thanks for the encouragement! Have you also discovered less is more in social situations? Or have your experiences been different? | /r/seduction | 27/09/20 05:08 AM |
| 2 | Why Being “Funny” Is Killing Your Attraction [Dancing Monkey Syndrome]This is a great post! I've been thinking about this recently, that my problem right now is I overgame. I make too many jokes, create too many emotions, etc; and not have enough normal conversation. And this has been ruining my interactions. Less is more in social skills. Some jokes and effort is good. But too much and it destroys the interaction. Glad you made this post OP. It was helpful for me to read it. | /r/seduction | 26/09/20 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Rsd max videoSorry for dropping this comment here and hi-jacking thread, I don't normally do this, but I have a big question. There is something I watched RSD Max say years ago when I was a novice, and didn't pay attention to it then. But now when I need to know about it, his videos are gone. The question I have is about emotional spikes and flatline. Why is it a good thing to have flatline talk, and why is too much emotional spikes a bad thing? And roughly how much of the conversation should be flatline tal… | /r/seduction | 25/09/20 09:37 AM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.That is fantastic. The more time I spend in this, the more I'm starting to realize game is not meant to be as hard as some people say it is. You're right when you say 'Less is More'. I need to remember that. :) | /r/seduction | 24/09/20 04:05 AM |
| 2 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Thanks for the comprehensive answer. :) So based on what you observed in your experience and from what you said in the earlier post about RSD Max videos you watched, an effective strategy is game (make jokes, ask emotionally interesting questions, etc) to get in, then once a guy is in and has the girl's attention, it's just normal conversation so he doesn't look like he's trying too hard or is a robot? I actually really like that, bc that sounds easier than what I do now, which is basically game… | /r/seduction | 24/09/20 03:55 AM |
| 2 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.OrzhovPalatine, great answer from you as always! I remember a few weeks ago you gave a very helpful answer for another question of mine. Glad you're still here giving value. Thanks, I appreciate it. :) Your answer is fantastic. :) Can you please explain more on how over-gaming makes a guy come off as weird? To me this is a new concept, as I always thought I had to do a lot in game. But recently I'm starting to realise that might be a bad idea. I'm happy if less is more in seduction. But it's jus… | /r/seduction | 24/09/20 03:11 AM |
| 3 | Does anyone here who followed RSD understand why they said there should be a balance between Flatlining and Spiking in a conversation, and too much of one is bad? They seemed to lean more towards Flatline. [Flatline is Normal Conversation. Spiking is Attraction material like teasing, jokes, etc.]Wow, these are incredible!!! Thank you so much! These really help change my belief system. You're a great guy. :) I hope you have a fantastic week ahead of you, and good things happen to you. :) | /r/seduction | 23/09/20 09:44 AM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Good points. A lot of PUA techniques are useless and can make an interaction worse. | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 06:46 PM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Thanks for your reply. I've been wondering that as well, that 'game' doesn't exist. That's interesting to hear you think that after reading all the books. So would you say that most of what is written in these books are not effective? What suggestion would you give to someone who is bad with girls and wants to improve? | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 05:18 PM |
| 1 | RSD Max once said not to 'overgame'. As in not to use too many attraction techniques, jokes, don't spike her emotions too much, etc. He said make sure to have lots of normal or 'boring' conversation in there as well. Does anyone remember this and can elaborate? His videos are no longer on YouTube.Thanks for your reply. So would you say if techniques were to be used, they would only be useful at the initial convo, after that it's just normal conversation? | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here who followed RSD understand why they said there should be a balance between Flatlining and Spiking in a conversation, and too much of one is bad? They seemed to lean more towards Flatline. [Flatline is Normal Conversation. Spiking is Attraction material like teasing, jokes, etc.]Thanks for your feedback. | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone here who followed RSD understand why they said there should be a balance between Flatlining and Spiking in a conversation, and too much of one is bad? They seemed to lean more towards Flatline. [Flatline is Normal Conversation. Spiking is Attraction material like teasing, jokes, etc.]Really great explanation! Thank you so much for taking the time to write it up, I appreciate the effort. It makes a lot of sense. I just have one last question, and it's why do too many emotional spikes (tools) cause the interaction to go worse with girls? You mentioned earlier that it comes across as trying too hard, are there other reasons, or is this the main reason? I know consciously from my personal experience this is true, as I have lost interactions from making too many jokes, etc. But I… | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 03:56 PM |
| 5 | Does anyone here who followed RSD understand why they said there should be a balance between Flatlining and Spiking in a conversation, and too much of one is bad? They seemed to lean more towards Flatline. [Flatline is Normal Conversation. Spiking is Attraction material like teasing, jokes, etc.]Thank you do much for your reply, I appreciate it. :) So just to clarify: I should make my base game to be normal conversation, along with good eye contact, speaking slowly, being relaxed, etc. That should be 80% or so of my game. And the tools like teasing, jokes etc should not be the main part of my game, only used like 20% or less of the time? Sorry for this in-depth question, but I just want to get a better idea of what to aim for roughly. Thank you for any answer you can give me. :) | /r/seduction | 22/09/20 02:01 PM |
| 2 | I’m a mid-30s ‘OG’ PUA who started in the Ross Jeffries days. I’ve had hundreds of successes over the years and have coached PU sporadically. AMAReally great and helpful answer! Thank you so much for taking the time to tell it to me. I will look into Juggler method, as I struggle with conversation. Then it will just be hardcore practise and avoid reading. Thanks for the great advice, I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 16/09/20 02:44 PM |
| 1 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Very true! Using this time to focus on our REAL hobbies is a great idea. It's also awesome you mentioned that quote. That was one of my favorite parts from the Game. | /r/seduction | 16/09/20 11:16 AM |
| 2 | I’m a mid-30s ‘OG’ PUA who started in the Ross Jeffries days. I’ve had hundreds of successes over the years and have coached PU sporadically. AMAGood answer, thank you so much for taking the time to write that. I have a few more questions. I hope it's okay to ask them. I saw you mention in another comment you only learnt from 3 sources (Juggler, Gunwitch, and Johny). Were those the only 3 you needed for most of your game? As in all you did was keep applying and practising them till you got results? And if that's the case, would you say that a person doesn't need too much information or teachings to become good at this, just a few reliabl… | /r/seduction | 16/09/20 01:35 AM |
| 4 | I’m a mid-30s ‘OG’ PUA who started in the Ross Jeffries days. I’ve had hundreds of successes over the years and have coached PU sporadically. AMAThe new school movement of game is a lot about confidence, investing in oneself, building a lifestyle. The old school movement of game relied a lot on outer game techniques instead. What are some outer game techniques you found useful from the early days of pick-up? Thank you for taking the time to do this. I appreciate it. And congrats on being in the game for so long and having all that experience. :) | /r/seduction | 15/09/20 11:54 AM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116Thanks for sharing your experiences with me. That's interesting the main thing you learnt from that was you didn't need courses. I have a friend who spent years teaching himself website design. Then one day he signed up for a website design course, but after a few weeks dropped out bc he said they weren't teaching him anything he didn't already know. But he said the benefit was he then gained confidence in his knowledge as a website designer, and his ability to teach himself. I think sometimes w… | /r/seduction | 03/09/20 06:56 PM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116Thanks for your comment, it's very informative. So with Tyler Durden's course, may I ask what did he teach? Like it was it about inner game like being validation free and confident, or outer game, or something else, or nothing at all? Sorry for the long question, but I've always been curious about what type of knowledge he teaches in his course. | /r/seduction | 03/09/20 02:12 PM |
| 0 | HE KEEPS APOLOGIZINGHe might not be comfortable talking on the phone and prefer texting. You could try to maybe tell him if he doesn't want long phone conversations, you just want to talk on the phone for 3 minutes. But some guys just avoid phone calls and there is nothing that can be done but be patient and work around that. | /r/seduction | 03/09/20 11:42 AM |
| 0 | HE KEEPS APOLOGIZINGI'm not an expert on these situations, but I think maybe he has low self-esteem, or is really worried he hurt your feelings. He might be the type of person who likes apologising a lot. | /r/seduction | 03/09/20 10:46 AM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116You're welcome bro, I'm glad it helped you. | /r/seduction | 02/09/20 03:48 AM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116Thanks, glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. | /r/seduction | 02/09/20 03:24 AM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116It's called 'Rules of the Game' by Neil Strauss. It has a lot of bad advice in my opinion. This was one of the few rare pieces of good advice in that book. I wouldn't recommend reading this book. I only posted this here because Neil Strauss was one of the people who played a big role in creating the old PUA movement (that is thankfully dying), which was very unhealthy, and based on seeing women as objects that guys use to boost their ego. So it's interesting that here he says that is not the way… | /r/seduction | 02/09/20 03:21 AM |
| 1 | "The guy who fails at the game is the one who goes out looking for women to make him feel good about himself. The guy who succeeds at the game is the one who goes out and makes other people feel good about themselves." - Neil Strauss, Rules Of The Game, p.116It's called 'Rules of the Game' by Neil Strauss. It has a lot of bad advice in my opinion. This was one of the few rare pieces of good advice in that book. I wouldn't recommend reading this book. I only posted this here because Neil Strauss was one of the people who played a big role in creating the old PUA movement (that is thankfully dying), which was very unhealthy, and based on seeing women as objects guys use to boost their ego. So it's interesting that here he says that is not the way to g… | /r/seduction | 02/09/20 03:20 AM |
| 1 | How to become more of a natural with girls? Find a Social Hobby you enjoy doing and which girls also do. Build friendships with these girls, but don't try to pick them up.Great advice! 🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 22/08/20 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Best programs/courses that helped you with women the most?I'm not a fan of courses for dating or PU. I think most of them are just marketers trying to make money. There have been 2 books I read which I think give the most value. 1) 'Models' by Mark Manson 2) 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' by Dale Carnegie. I also found 'Way of the Superior Man' by David Deida useful. The main lesson I got from that book was that a girl will be attracted to a man who has a bigger purpose in his life than girls. | /r/seduction | 28/07/20 06:17 PM |
| 2 | The more I try, the less I get. The less I try, the more I get.I've noticed this too! The more I focus on other areas of my life, the more confident and less needy I am around girls. And this makes me a lot more attractive to them and I get much better results. I've realized the best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. Great post OP! I'm glad you wrote it. | /r/seduction | 28/07/20 05:46 PM |
| 1 | The 7% rule - stop spending so much time on womenThank you. | /r/seduction | 30/06/20 11:34 PM |
| 2 | The 7% rule - stop spending so much time on womenGreat post! I've noticed this as well, the more I focus on other areas of my life, the more confident and less needy I am around girls. And this makes me a lot more attractive to them and I get much better results. I believe the best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. | /r/seduction | 30/06/20 08:55 PM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.That's awesome to hear you're making such positive changes!!! Keep it up! I'm happy for you. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 26/05/20 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.He had a good point of not trying to impress woman, and not spending thousands of dollars on girls. I disagree with the part where he told guys not to be interested in girls who were 5 or 6. I assume he meant 5 or 6 based on their looks. If that is the case, I think that is the wrong mindset. I used to be shallow, and I wasn't happy. Then one day I stopped being shallow, and started judging girls for what was inside. If I had to choose between an 'ugly' girl with a nice personality, or a 'pretty… | /r/seduction | 22/05/20 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thanks for sharing your experience. I didn't know Jordan Peterson talked about this. Could you point me in the direction of where can I find this? Is there something I can type into YouTube to find him saying this? | /r/seduction | 20/05/20 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thank you for your answer. It's great to hear you and your boyfriend have such a strong relationship. | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thank you for your answer. It's useful for me to hear from a girl that a guy talking passionately about something she is not interested in is captivating for her. What is it that you think causes you to like hearing about it, is it the enthusiasm he has for it, or is it something that cannot be described? | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.I've noticed this as well. When I've had a few things more important than girls, I do a lot better with girls. | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thanks for your answer. I'm glad to hear others have noticed this as well. So when you say it's the reverse, you mean now you have noticed when you talk about topics like computers, cryptocurrency, and history, girls are interested because you are passionate about it? Even if you talk to girls who are not interested in the topic, but they like listening because of your passion? Sorry for bothering you with those questions, but this is a new epiphany for me, and I'm looking for more evidence and … | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.That's awesome to hear you want to be a DJ! I hope you succeed. That will be a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad to hear others have also noticed this. So just to clarify, you noticed the less needy you were (which came from thinking less about girls), and the more excited you were for your Passion, the more girls liked you as well? Were there also girls who were not interested in the activity of DJing, but liked you more because now you had something that made you excited… | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Having a PASSION creates ATTRACTION. Girls are attracted to guys who have something they are passionate about.Thank you. Glad to hear others have noticed this as well. | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 01:33 PM |
| 2 | PUA ForumsNone. Nobody posts in my local Lair anymore. There were 2 other forums I used to be a part of, but they closed down a few years ago. This Reddit forum is the only big surviving one I know of that I can still find quality posts in. | /r/seduction | 19/05/20 12:31 PM |
| 2 | The Brain is the biggest sex organ! Female here sharing my own experience— what has been extremely effective with me.Thank you so much for taking the time to write your answer, I appreciate it. I'm a fiction writer, so both actually feels natural for me. I actually like setting myself the challenge of thinking of metaphors and interesting ways to describe things when ever I'm on the bus, etc. Since both are the same for me, which should I lean towards? Would most guys just say "I entered his office", or "I stepped out of the building", without giving that extra detail like hot? And if I give another extra deta… | /r/seduction | 14/05/20 03:12 AM |
| 3 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Yeah, girls don't seem to like that at all. Thanks for the encouragement. | /r/seduction | 14/05/20 03:04 AM |
| 0 | The Brain is the biggest sex organ! Female here sharing my own experience— what has been extremely effective with me.Great post! Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective. So if I were to say: "I entered his office, it was hot like a sauna." Or "I stepped out of the building into the sun, and it felt like standing near a volcano." Is that better than saying: "I entered his office that was hot." Or "I stepped out of the building into the heat." Would adding the metaphors like in the first examples make it more interesting to a girl? | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 09:02 PM |
| 1 | A lurking female on this subredditReally good answer. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 07:48 PM |
| 2 | A lurking female on this subredditThank you for taking the time to give me your answer. So it's about being dedicated to the passion and taking lots of action on it, and then having results to show for it. Even if the results are not considered "successful", the results are still attractive as they are evidence the guy has the passion for it. Like a guy passionate about singing dedicates a few years to make 40 songs. And even if he only sells a few copies of his songs, it's still attractive because it proves he was passionate an… | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 07:23 PM |
| 1 | A lurking female on this subredditThat's good to know. Thank you for your answer. So even if the object is not something the girl is interested in, the ATTITUDE of being passionate towards the object is what the girl find attractive. | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 07:17 PM |
| 3 | A lurking female on this subredditThank you for taking the time to write this post. I find it very helpful. I do have a few questions. With having a passion, is it still attractive even if the girl is not interested in what the guy is passionate about? For instance, if a guy is passionate about gardening, but the girl is not interested in the actual activity of gardening, would it still be attractive for her that the guy has something he is passionate about? If yes, and if you feel comfortable, can you please give example of som… | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 04:41 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.That's really cool! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this to me. I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 13/05/20 04:31 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.No worries about the late reply. :) This was a very informative answer. Thank you so much. Being passionate about the same hobbies definitely makes things a lot easier. One last question: So even if your friends have hobbies you are not very interested in or passionate about, but if they are passionate about those hobbies, it can strengthen the friendship between the two of you? Sorry for asking for more clarification on this, it's just that it's a new idea for me. But I find it very interesting… | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.That is very true. Thanks for sharing your experience. | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 04:07 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Thanks for your comment. It's good to hear a girl's perspective on whether this is attractive or not. | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 01:44 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.That's great to hear you found something you enjoy learning. That always makes life more enjoyable. | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 01:27 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.I'm glad to hear you think my post is that useful. It encourages me to write more about the importance of being busy and having hobbies and goals in life. | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 12:31 AM |
| 1 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Very true when you said you're not a hobby, you're a person. And thanks for pointing out another advantage is it gives you two more to talk about. Thanks for sharing your perspective, it was great to read. | /r/seduction | 12/05/20 12:09 AM |
| 4 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.This is really great to hear! It's fantastic your boyfriend has so many hobbies he is passionate about. A lot of guys aren't willing to put in the time and effort to find out what interests them, then stick to it long enough to become passionate about it. Thanks for posting this. There's something I've been thinking about recently, which I would appreciate hearing what you think of. Some girls have said they like hearing a guy talk about his passion, even if they are not interested in the actual… | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 11:22 PM |
| 2 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 08:17 PM |
| 3 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.It's not being emotionally detached, it's being "less emotionally invested" in her. You still get emotionally invested in her, but not as much as before, and she has to earn it (either by having the right personality, putting effort into the relationship with you, etc). You don't need her to be happy. She can make you happier, but you are already happy by yourself without her and don't need her. Glad you resonated with the framing of the post and also think one's main priority should not be chas… | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 07:54 PM |
| 28 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.Thank you, glad you agree with it. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 04:33 PM |
| 30 | The best way to impress girls is to have better things to do than trying to impress girls. A dating coach in my city once told me he always tells his clients to have at least 3 things more important to them than girls. Now in isolation, it's a good time to figure out what those 3 things are for you.I think a lot of us have a phase in our life where we don't do what we want to because we worry what others think of us. Then one day we realize who cares, life is short, do what makes us happy. I think it's human nature to go through that phase. Glad to hear you're going to use this time well. Good luck with it. | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 04:15 PM |
| 3 | What do you guys think about virginity?There are men who decide to follow the spiritual path and stay virgins their whole life. Some men even join a monastery and stay there for the rest of their life. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. A guy who is a virgin shouldn't be so hard on himself, that just makes things more difficult. I once met a guy who was a virgin till he was 34, but then he learnt how to talk to girls and built a lifestyle that was attractive to girls. He eventually lost his virginity, and is happy with that a… | /r/seduction | 11/05/20 01:32 PM |
| 2 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Is there a new skill you have ever wanted to learn, like playing the guitar, or cooking certain types of dishes, etc? Is there a language you might be interested in learning? Any books you think might be nice to read? Or you can try to write a book or blog? Or do something creative like paint, or draw, etc. Maybe try some exercise like push-ups, squats, etc. Our options for exercises are limited with quarantine, but there can still be a little that is done indoors. Well done on noticing that was… | /r/seduction | 09/05/20 11:37 PM |
| 1 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.This is a brief guide of what I do to make friends, There are 3 important things I do. I call them the 3 IN's. They are: -INterest. Be interested in people. As in you want to learn more about them, and accept them without judging them (when a person senses you are judging them, they close up and won't like you as much). Basically you should do more listening than talking. Ask open-ended questions, and really listen to what they say. Imagine what they are saying is the most important thing at tha… | /r/seduction | 19/04/20 08:21 PM |
| 3 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.Don't let others with wrong values stop you from walking the righteous path. It can be hard at times, but we just need to remind ourselves that being Kind is more important. And his opinion didn't affect you after some time, so that shows you know what is truly important. Their negativity means nothing in the long run. | /r/seduction | 18/04/20 05:16 PM |
| 3 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.You're an awesome person! That's the right mindset to have. Everyone should be treated equally regardless of how they look. You have good values. Keep it up. | /r/seduction | 18/04/20 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.The close guy friends are for emotional support to make the man less needy on the girl for emotional support. It helps his game indirectly. A man can have close guy friends, and also go to the bar with 2 girls if that will make him happy. It's not either-or, a man can do both, have close guy friends and female friends. | /r/seduction | 18/04/20 06:53 AM |
| 1 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.Thanks for the acknowledgment, I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 17/04/20 11:57 PM |
| 1 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.Different things definitely apply for different people and situations. If you think what I said will bring more negative than positive to your personal situation, then definitely ignore everything I wrote. | /r/seduction | 17/04/20 11:51 PM |
| 1 | If you are good at talking to girls and enjoy it, you can use this to make others less shallow and improve society in a small way.Thanks buddy. | /r/seduction | 17/04/20 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Another person mentioned that as well. That's very interesting. The girls from sex and the city knew what they were talking about. | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 11:52 PM |
| 2 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.I mean a lot of people who get into this tend to read as many books as possible, but never practise it. They spend a lot of time debating which is the best way, when like martial arts, different styles work for different people. A common occurrence I've noticed is guys reading a lot and getting attached to theory, but having no practise. When the correct way is to read a little, not get attached to the knowledge, and practise a lot. | /r/seduction | 15/04/20 11:51 PM |
| 2 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Yeah. But unfortunately some people who got into it didn't see it that way. But Mystery was correct on that note. | /r/seduction | 14/04/20 04:15 PM |
| 2 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Absolutely right! You know exactly what to do. :) | /r/seduction | 13/04/20 10:38 AM |
| 14 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Im not an expert on this, but I will explain what I've found got me results. I do ask the girl out, it just doesn't come from being desperate. As in I will ask her out, and if she says no, I think that's okay, because I have other important things I can spend my time on, rather than sitting doing nothing, wishing she had said yes. I don't need her to be happy. Some guys will keep asking a girl out a lot even after she has rejected him, or call or message her too much, because they have nothing e… | /r/seduction | 13/04/20 04:02 AM |
| 3 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.I'm not sure why those who figured it out don't talk about it more. Maybe they don't realize being productive is what makes them attractive. But I wish more people would tell others about this. I'm kind of annoyed with myself for taking so long to figure this out, lol. | /r/seduction | 13/04/20 03:45 AM |
| 5 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.There's a lot. Some examples of what I've been doing recently is reading books on writing and marketing, learning Spanish, and I've been trying to write a small book. A guy I'm friends with has been learning to play the guitar, exercise 4 times a week, and to learn Excel skills. You can try to learn a new skill or language, reach a new fitness goal, complete a project like writing a book or building something. There is so much that can be done. Just find something you enjoy and that will be bene… | /r/seduction | 13/04/20 03:40 AM |
| 6 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.It definitely seems to be a secret. It's not talked about much, and it took me a long time to figure this out. Thanks, glad you like it. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 09:13 PM |
| 2 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Yeah, it's not something that is talked about as much as it should be. But it makes a big difference in results. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 09:10 PM |
| 23 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Thanks for sharing that experience. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who has noticed this. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 03:46 PM |
| 4 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Yeah, that's how I define it. Glad it's helpful, you're welcome. :) | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 03:43 PM |
| 31 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Thank you for sharing your thoughts. From what I've noticed, when I had nothing to do and was always trying to get the girl to spend time with me, I got rejected a lot. But when I focused on my work and studies, and was less available (not pretending to be less available), girls would message me more. There were times when a girl would want to catch up with me, but I resecheduele because it's at the same time as a study group or some other project I have. This seems to make the girl like me more… | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 03:42 PM |
| 17 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.For me personally, it's when I am doing tasks like working, improving myself, exercising, etc. For instance, recently I have been reading books on how to be a better writer and marketer (to improve my job), I've started learning Spanish, and I'm writing a small book. The benefits of these are that they give me something to look forward to and think about, as I'm emotionally invested in them (so I think less about girls and am less needy). I also feel better about myself as I improve myself in th… | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 02:44 PM |
| 6 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.That's great you're going to invest your time into valuable activities like self-development, working out, writing. That's a very smart use of your time. Our time is limited, so might as well use it wisely. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 02:20 PM |
| 5 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.I don't know if I would say they are parasites. I think they might have it as hard as we do, possibly even harder. I remember I had a phase in my life where I spent all my time thinking about girls, and if a girl didn't reply to my text message, I would be really upset for a long time. But then I made some changes in my lifestyle, and focused on my work, hobbies, exercising, and my guy friends. I dedicated most of my time to other stuff, and got 95% of my happiness from other areas, and wasn't d… | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 02:06 PM |
| 93 | BEING PRODUCTIVE IS BEING ATTRACTIVE. When I've been busy and had more important things than girls, I did a lot better with girls. When I had too much time and thinking too much about girls, I did worse. This may not apply to everyone, but I discovered for me my best results are when I'm productive.Exactly! I've noticed it as well. The more I focus on productive tasks, the more confident and good about myself I feel. And that is attractive to girls. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 01:36 PM |
| 1 | How To Improve Your Game During Quarantine (Two Former RSD Coaches)I've heard plenty of bad things about RSD as well. Apparently they charge a lot for their bootcamps and products but don't deliver much value. I've also heard stories about how when people use their credit card to buy things from RSD, they get charged a few extra hundred dollars. I have no personal experience with them, so I can't directly verify it. But there are plenty of negative testimonials and reviews about them on the internet, that it was enough for me to stay away from them. | /r/seduction | 12/04/20 05:20 AM |
| 1 | I feel we naturally have the desire to work to be productive. And we also have the desire to be attractive. And I just realized we can fulfill both desires at the same time. It's not approach thousands of girls to be attractive, but be productive to be attractive.Fair enough. Glad to hear you found something that worked for you and had a positive experience. :) | /r/seduction | 11/04/20 07:31 PM |
| 1 | I feel we naturally have the desire to work to be productive. And we also have the desire to be attractive. And I just realized we can fulfill both desires at the same time. It's not approach thousands of girls to be attractive, but be productive to be attractive.I'm glad it was useful. Thank you for your nice comment. | /r/seduction | 11/04/20 02:00 PM |
| 5 | What happened to Liam McRae from The Natural Lifestyles?I saw in a video by James Marshall that Liam has gone off to find himself and do something else, because he's been teaching this for the last 10 years, a really long time. Which does make sense, because most of these gurus quit after 4 or 5 years. Every few years there's always a new group of teachers, and most of the old ones disappeared. James said he's still in contact with Liam, and he may help out in future workshops, but he's not going to be making videos or being in the public about this … | /r/seduction | 11/04/20 08:58 AM |
| 3 | Am I not hot anymore?That might be something to look into. You're welcome and good luck. I hope you find the answer. | /r/seduction | 11/04/20 08:30 AM |
| 9 | Am I not hot anymore?I'm not an expert on this, but I've seen this happen with 2 girls I knew, whose behaviour changed. The first was a girl who used to be polite, but then one day she experienced some success in her life, and changed. She became arrogant, was always putting people down and telling people what to do. Eventually her friends left her. The second was a girl who was always happy and smiling, but one day she got a stressful job, which left her tired most of the time. Whenever she went out, she wasn't hap… | /r/seduction | 11/04/20 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Who is your favorite teacher in seduction?That book was a big game changer for me. It was easily better than every other PUA book I read. It was honest and practical. | /r/seduction | 10/04/20 02:56 AM |
| 1 | What are some good books/YouTube channels for inner game and seduction tips?I agree with this. I found it really useful, and actually read it because a dating coach in my city recommended it to my Lair (back when we used to have Lairs). | /r/seduction | 10/04/20 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Break from datingI'm not an expert, but I personally think taking time off will reduce your game a little, but you will be able to get it back easier the second time around. I was once speaking to a dating coach in my city about the skill of cold approaching (I think you might not be referring to cold approaching, but I will include this here bc it was useful), and he was saying that it's like working out at the gym. If he doesn't do it for a long time, it diminishes. But just like muscles in the gym, it's easie… | /r/seduction | 10/04/20 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Don Romeo's The 'Inner Game' Game - join in!I'm not an expert on this, but I define inner game in relation to women as being: confident, relaxed, and not desperate/needy. I personally think the best way to develop this is to have more important aims in one's life than girls, being happy without girls, and having a supportive group of guy friends. Once this foundation is in place, then in my experience it's a lot easier to connect with girls. | /r/seduction | 09/04/20 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Thanks for sharing your experience with me and giving me such a detailed reply. It was interesting to read your experience. I hope you and your husband can find some new friends that give you both what you want. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Thanks for telling me about this. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.No. I'm saying guys should think about having a group of close guy friends, or brothers, or a soul tribe. Gangs isn't the only place to find male friendships. You can find it in football clubs, classes, social hobbies, meet-up groups, etc. Find the guys with the right values you connect with, then build a friendship with them. It takes time to do this, but it will be worth it. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Im glad you found it useful. Thanks for letting me know. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I'm not very good at writing, so what I say is sometimes messy, lol. If I were to write these paragraphs below to explain it, would it make more sense in addition to the post I wrote? Here is an explanation I've been working on: It's not about replacing the romantic relationship with the wife, that can stay the same. But it's about transforming the platonic relationship of male friends to being like the relationship of brothers. A guy might only see his brother once a month, but he sees himself … | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts. This isn't about ignoring the wife. It's just about having guy friends for emotional support. A man can still have his wife to do for him what his guy friends can't do. But in addition, he will also have his guy friends to give him help and support that his wife can't. If the couple are in trouble, and the man has a group of guy friends to help them, it will make things easier. The end goal of dating should be to find a lifelong mate. Unfortunately in the c… | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Haha, this post was anything but short. Is that episode where the girls say something along the lines of "Girls and their girlfriends should be each other soul mates." Because I think that's a healthy view. Was there an episode where they discussed men having their male friends as soul mates? I'm curious to know if there's any mention of this idea in media or tv shows. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I have seen this happen a lot of times as well. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Very true. Girls with close girl friends also seem to be happier in my experience. | /r/seduction | 07/04/20 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I didn't know the Greeks thought true love was between male friends. Thanks for telling me this. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Yeah, I don't understand why soul mates have to be romantically or sexually attracted to each other. If a man has a best friend who he's been close to for years, or decades, that best friend can be classifed as a soul mate in my books. I've been close to my 3 best friends for just over 20 years, and there is no romantic or sexual attraction between us, but I consider them my soul mates. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Yeah, men have pressure not to show emotions, and it leads to all kinds of stress and loneliness. But if a man can show his emotions to the right person he can trust, he will be a lot happier. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I came up with 2 types because I once was in a relationship with a girl who wanted to be my number one priority over my purpose and close guy friends, and that ended badly as it eventually caused me to became too needy/dependent on her. Then I was in a relationship with a girl who encouraged me to spend time with my close guy friends instead of with her, and that went a lot better. So that experience caused me to come up with this idea of 2 types of girls, so hopefully in the future I can avoid … | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.When the guy friends can help each other professionally, that's a massive bonus. It takes effort to find the right people and build a friendship with them, but if done correctly the results are great. We definitely get out what we put in. Great post. 👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Emotionally the guy becomes close to other guys, but not sexually. I also don't think there is anything wrong with a man being gay. But some people think any behaviour that might be perceived as gay is bad, and avoid it. This is why not as many guys share their emotions with each other, and they become too dependent on their female partner. Whereas when you look at girls, they always have a group of female friends they are close to and share things with. This is what guys need to do with their g… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Fair enough. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Some guys already have the foundation of having close guy friends, a purpose in life, social skills, social hobby, etc, and they may be able to let things happen naturally with the girl. But for guys who don't have that foundation in place, it can be a lot harder to have the right qualities and mindset that allows attraction to happen naturally and as a side effect of the interaction with the girl. For them they might need labels in place to help guide them. I know guys from my high school who w… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 04:15 PM |
| 6 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I was in a relationship with a girl like that before as well. It was a toxic relationship, but it helped me grow into a better person when it ended and know what to look for in a relationship. I think sometimes the toxic relationships help us evolve into the person we need to be to have good relationship. Thanks for sharing your experience with me. It was informative for me to hear the effect your ex had on you. That's exactly what I became as well when I was in my toxic relationship. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Glad you like my post and it resonated with you. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.It doesn't work that way. Your soul tribe is there to give you emotional support, and help you when you're in trouble. This helps the relationship with the girl because: - It makes the guy less needy on the girl, which is attractive to her. - He doesn't burden her with his problems as he tell his guy friends about it. - If the couple are in trouble and need help, the guy's soul tribe will help them. Which the girl will be thankful for. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.The boys are always there. I'm also really glad to hear you're feeling better now and have moved on from your ex. :) | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:38 PM |
| 3 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Completely agree with this. Once a guy in my soul tribe broke up with a girl he had been dating for 2 years. A few nights later on the first Saturday night, all us guys caught up with him over dinner to check to see if he was okay and listen to him. The next few weeks were rough for him, but we kept checking up on him and took turns to go out with him. A girlfriend/wife is important. But having that support network of close guy friends makes life easier. You're definitely right that bonding with… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.It took me a long time to realize putting all that emotional labor on my girlfriend was hard for her. Yeah, it's definitely important to make sure the support aren't bad influences. Thank you for commenting with your perspective. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:16 PM |
| -1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I came up with 2 types because I once was in a relationship with a girl who wanted to be my number one priority over my purpose and close guy friends, and that ended badly as it eventually caused me to became too needy/dependent on her. Then I was in a relationship with a girl who encouraged me to spend time with my close guy friends instead of with her, and that went a lot better. So that experience caused me to come up with this idea of 2 types of girls, so hopefully in the future I can avoid … | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I noticed this in a lot of girls. They have a group of girl friends they stick with, and I think it's really healthy. But a lot of men seem to be less likely to have a group of male friends they talk about their problems and share their emotions with. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I appreciated hearing a woman's perspective. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.A man can be emotionally closer to his guy friends than his wife, but dedicate more time to his wife. I'm emotionally closer to my brother than any girl I've ever been in a relationship with, but I don't see my brother as often as the girl I live with. A man can be emotionally close to his guy friends, and still dedicate a lot of time to his family. His family is still important. Maybe you don't need to follow my approach to escape neediness. But for a lot of guys (myself included), this will be… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them."Male tribe can only feed you logical stuff and almost negligible emotional support. Then you will starve from emotional feeds." I personally think it depends on the tribe. The right guys can be good listeners with a lot of empathy. Some women complain about how their partners depend on them emotionally to listen to all their problems. This is a way of dealing with this. But different things work for different people. This is just one way. If it doesn't work for you then feel free to ignore it. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 02:44 PM |
| 0 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.Glad to hear you like the idea of having a soul tribe. I came up with 2 types because I once was in a relationship with a girl who wanted to be my number one priority over my purpose and close guy friends, and that ended badly as it eventually caused me to became too needy/dependent on her. Then I was in a relationship with a girl who encouraged me to spend time with my close guy friends instead of with her, and that went a lot better. So that experience caused me to come up with this idea of 2 … | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I personally believe the group of close friends, or soul tribe, for the man is made up of only other men. As in a guy will have a few guy friends he is closer to than his wife/girlfriend. But his wife/girlfriend is still important to him, and she is more important to him than any other girl. He is always closer to her than to any other girl. So I hope people don't misunderstand what I am saying or where I am going with this. | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 02:11 PM |
| 22 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them."strive for a life that makes me happy and satisfied without depending on a girl to achieve that." In my opinion this is the best mindset to have. 👍🏼👏 | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 01:41 PM |
| 26 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.That's awesome to hear you have a soul tribe with a really strong connection. It's hard to find that. Well done! 👏 | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 12:58 PM |
| 10 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.That's great you had a group of guys to support you. I've had a different experience to what you had. A few of my close guy friends got married, but we still have group catch ups once a month for dinner. For them it's a chance to get away from the wife and kids for a while. And it's a great time for us to check up on each other's problems. I personally found when I didn't have any close guy friends, I did worse in my relationships. But when I did get a group of close guy friends, I was better in… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 12:41 PM |
| 3 | Maybe a girl is not meant to be our soul mate. Maybe as a guy, we are meant to have a group of guy friends as our soul mates, or soul tribe. This makes us less needy on girls, which is more attractive to them.I didn't say all assumptions or beliefs weren't true. I merely question the assumptions that we can only depend on 1 person and that person has to be a girl. I try to replace it with new assumptions I have made which based on my experience are more valid, and which can lead to better choices. I've been in a relationship with a girl who wanted to be my number one priority over my guy friends and that went badly. And I've been in a relationship with a girl who encouraged me to catch up with my guy… | /r/seduction | 06/04/20 12:25 PM |
| 2 | Future of seduction.I personally think the community is moving away from cold approaching. Some reasons for this are: the rise of Tinder, the metoo movement, the recent BBC documentary, and YouTube taking down lots of channels and videos on cold approaching, means it will be done less and less. I'm not saying it will stop completely, there will always be guys doing it. But not as many as before. Whether this is good or bad depends on perspective. Some say it's the best thing to happen, others say it's the worst. I … | /r/seduction | 02/04/20 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Anyone successful with the very direct and bold approach? It seems like that I won't learn from my mistakes.This was useful to read. Thanks for posting this. 👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 02/04/20 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Rsd maxIt's frustrating how a lot of good videos, not just from RSD but other companies as well, are being taken down now. So much valuable content, all gone. | /r/seduction | 24/03/20 12:16 AM |
| 2 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 11:48 PM |
| 2 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.You definitely can bro! Feel free to send me a private message anytime. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 11:07 PM |
| 2 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.Yeah, that's definitely true bro. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 10:09 PM |
| 1 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.Thank you, I'm glad you like it. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 10:07 PM |
| 2 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.You're welcome. I'm glad you like it and thanks for your kind words. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 10:06 PM |
| 8 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.Some people become obsessed trying to have a lot of friends, and they make friends with people they end up regretting later. Much better to invest the limited time and energy we have into those few people who appreciate and deserve it. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 12:52 AM |
| 9 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.Completely agree! There's just not enough time for that. And it's also hard to find genuine, reliable friends. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 12:48 AM |
| 7 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.I've been through the exact same thing! I used to be popular with a ton of friends. But then some bad stuff happened, I went into depression, and a lot of my 'friends' disappeared. Now I'm a lot more selective of who I let into my life. Only a few people have my trust and my time. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 12:47 AM |
| 26 | 3 realizations I had. Not every girl will like you. A person doesn't need a lot of friends. Meeting girls.That makes a lot of sense. Three real close friends are hard to find, and very valuable. They are worth way more than having a lot of fake friends who disappear when times are tough. | /r/seduction | 23/03/20 12:10 AM |
| 1 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.That's really awesome! Great to hear that. 🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 21/03/20 11:17 PM |
| 2 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.Thanks bro. Good luck to you too. 🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 09:49 PM |
| 1 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.I'm new to the abundance mentality, but I'm seeing great results from it. Haha, it wasn't being a natural, it was just luck. Thanks. 👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 09:36 PM |
| 1 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.That's a good explanation. Thanks for that. 🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 09:33 PM |
| 1 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.Yeah, desperation chases girls away faster than anything else. Guys that aren't desperate and don't need girls to be happy are the ones who have the best results with girls. But a lot of guys don't realize this. | /r/seduction | 20/03/20 09:33 PM |
| 3 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.I didn't mean it as having them as wing girls. But I meant when I had no female friends I wasn't good at cold approaching. But then when I made female friends, and would go out cold approaching by myself (without them), I did a lot better. Something about having female friends and other ways to meet girls made me do a lot better at cold approaching than when I just relied on only cold approaching to meet girls and had no female friends in my life. Sorry my post wasn't very clear. I'm not very go… | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 11:13 PM |
| 1 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.Completely agree! It took me a long time to realize this. I fell for their marketing tricks and thought they knew what they were talking about. It's only recently that I figured out they are not reliable for advice. | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 11:09 PM |
| 3 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.I do salsa dancing and beach volleyball. But I do these because I enjoy these hobbies and not just to meet girls. Some guys join a social hobby just to meet girls, and they give of a different energy which causes girls to avoid them. But if a guy can find a social hobby he enjoys and is passionate about, and the hobby is more important to him than meeting girls, then the girls will be interested in getting to know him. I used to play volleyball in high school, so it was easy to be passionate abo… | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 10:46 PM |
| 4 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.Yeah, I think cold approaching was useful back in the early to late 2000's, before dating apps, meet-up websites, social media, etc came up about. But now it's not the best option. It's one reason why the PU community with its emphasis on cold approaching isn't as big as it used to be. I got into Game a long time, and have a job with a long lunch break, so sometimes I pass the time with cold approaching, mostly just out of habit. But it definitely does give a lot less results for the amount of t… | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 10:36 PM |
| 3 | I had a phase in my life where I had no female friends and only use cold approach to meet girls, and I did badly. Then I built a social circle with girls in it, and got into salsa dancing where I met girls. Then when I did cold approach again, I found I did a lot better at cold approach than before.I've noticed that as well. It's a lot easier to build a connection and they are more comfortable. Social Circle game is very effective. | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 10:22 PM |
| 1 | My last relationship failed because I depended too much on my ex-girlfriend for support. I realize my mistake was I had no close guy friends. I didn't have a tribe.I don't think that will happen for you. I think you will be able to make your partner very happy. Changing our beliefs and reality is a really big challenge, but I believe you can do it. You're aware of the problem, and that's a big, helpful step. Most people avoid or deny. You're going in the right direction. | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 09:25 PM |
| 1 | My last relationship failed because I depended too much on my ex-girlfriend for support. I realize my mistake was I had no close guy friends. I didn't have a tribe.Thank you for sharing this with me. It was useful for me to read this and find out I'm not the only one. | /r/seduction | 19/03/20 08:50 PM |
| 3 | My last relationship failed because I depended too much on my ex-girlfriend for support. I realize my mistake was I had no close guy friends. I didn't have a tribe.Thank you so much for your feedback and encouraging words. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 18/03/20 04:09 AM |
| 1 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.It stands for Pick Up Arts, which was meant to be a movement to teach men to connect with girls. Unfortunately it has a lot of fake gurus and teachers with no moral principles. There are some useful ideas in PUA which can improve a person's romantic and social life, but there is also a lot of toxic stuff in PUA. It has a really bad reputation at the moment in society and the media. It's dying, and may possibly become an underground movement in 3 to 5 years, if not sooner. If you have never studi… | /r/seduction | 16/03/20 03:06 AM |
| 1 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Thank you. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 09:34 PM |
| 1 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.I'm glad to hear that. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 09:34 PM |
| 2 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Very true. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 09:34 PM |
| 1 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Interesting point. 👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 09:34 PM |
| 2 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Yeah, it took me a long time to realize that. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 03:10 PM |
| 2 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Glad you found it useful. :) | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 03:09 PM |
| 9 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.It stands for Pick Up ARTS, which was meant to be a movement to teach men to connect with girls. Unfortunately it has a lot of fake gurus and teachers with no moral principles. There are some useful ideas in PUA which can improve a person's romantic and social life, but there is also a lot of toxic stuff in PUA. It has a really bad reputation at the moment in society and the media. It's dying, and may possibly become an underground movement in 3 to 5 years, if not sooner. If you have never studi… | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 03:08 PM |
| 5 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Very true. And really great example. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 03:00 PM |
| 7 | PUA is more similar to martial arts than studying academic subjects (like history). You don't improve by reading and debating, you improve by doing and recognizing different things work for different people. What works for one guru may not work for you. Try and test to find what works for you.Glad to hear I'm not the only one that thinks like this. | /r/seduction | 15/03/20 02:59 PM |
| 1 | I’m in a bf/gf relationship now, early 30s, wanted to remark something she said.Thank you for your detailed answer. I appreciate it. | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 08:21 PM |
| 1 | I’m in a bf/gf relationship now, early 30s, wanted to remark something she said.Thanks for your explanation. In order for these moments to happen, where things click and you learn something, should the approaches be spread out, so a person can reflect on it and absorb the lessons? As in should a person approach 10 or 20 girls a week to reach that 1000+, or could he cram that 1000+ approaches into a few months? | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 06:49 PM |
| 1 | I’m in a bf/gf relationship now, early 30s, wanted to remark something she said.I didn't mean to offend anyone with my comment. In my experience I didn't see great results with cold approaching. It took me a long time to find the system I have now that gives me personally better results, and I wish someone had told me this earlier. If someone had told me at the start of my journey that building social circles and developing social hobbies could give me great results, I would have done that. But unfortunately when I joined the community (which happens to be where a lot of gu… | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 06:36 PM |
| 1 | I’m in a bf/gf relationship now, early 30s, wanted to remark something she said."Cold approach is just a skill, not a lifestyle. It's a skill used to help build your social life. Hobbies can also be used to build a social life." I find this an interesting perspective. Some PUA gurus talk of how cold approaching is the only way to meet girls, and I bought into that myth. And I noticed when I relied 100% on cold approaching to meet girls, I did worse on my cold approaches. A few months ago I stopped doing cold approaches and relied only on warm approaches. Then one day I was … | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 06:10 PM |
| 2 | I’m in a bf/gf relationship now, early 30s, wanted to remark something she said.Completely agree with this. I've stopped wasting time on developing my cold approach skills, and invest that time into learning how to build and maintain social groups instead. I also dedicate a lot of time into my two social hobbies of volleyball and salsa dancing. I'm a much better volleyball player and dancer now after dedicating these last few months to them. Interestingly enough doing these have been far more beneficial for my social life than cold approaching ever has. And it takes a lot l… | /r/seduction | 14/03/20 09:20 AM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?Awesome! Thanks for explaining it, I appreciate it. Hope you have a great day. 👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 13/03/20 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?I get it. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. So if in the future I want to post a link to an article, I should include a paragraph or a few paragraphs in the body of the text summarising the main points of the article? | /r/seduction | 13/03/20 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. I think it does stand on its own. There have been people replying to it and engaging with it. Please tell me what I should write so it doesn't get taken down. | /r/seduction | 13/03/20 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?I've never tried Tinder, but I might make the switch to that now and start studying Tinder game. It seems a lot safer. Thanks for the suggestion. One of the dating coaches in my city (who used to be a big name in my local Lair before it died down) actually stopped teaching cold approach a few months ago and teaches only Tinder and online dating game now. I might pay him a visit. | /r/seduction | 13/03/20 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?"If you were a business owner would you want to be known as "the place where PUAs come to practice hitting on girls?" That would potentially drive away half your customers" This is a really good point. 👍🏼 Just to be on the safe side from now on, I'm going to rethink and be careful about where I approach girls. I might even cut back on approaching and focus more on social circle game. | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Guys in Sydney, Australia were banned from a bookstore for cold approaching there. This is getting dangerous. The media and society are against PUA. First YouTube channels get deleted, now this. What's next?These guys were asking girls what book they liked, which seemed like a safe opener to me. Granted I don't know what their body language and vibe was like, but I don't think they were being creepy. I think they were just talking and got in trouble. The bookstore also said it discouraged men giving attention to girls. It seemed that in that bookstore they are now against men talking to girls. | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 10:49 PM |
| 2 | The Natural Lifestyle are taking down their YouTube videos on cold approaching to prevent their channel being banned. They took a lot down already. They're also changing their direction away from seduction. If you want to watch their videos on pick-up, do it now before they're all gone.Completely agree! Seeing others do it is the best way to learn. The new guys to the community trying to learn by experimenting are going to find it a lot, lot harder, and more traumatic. They are going to be more likely to give up. Yeah, that BBC documentary and other stuff by the media really distorted everyone's perception of this. I was speaking to a guy I met recently who was struggling with social situations and talking to girls. And when I suggested he look into this community, he freaked … | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 09:20 PM |
| 2 | The Natural Lifestyle are taking down their YouTube videos on cold approaching to prevent their channel being banned. They took a lot down already. They're also changing their direction away from seduction. If you want to watch their videos on pick-up, do it now before they're all gone.Lol, it's so true. There's no standard or regulatory body, so anyone can set up a website with 'testimonials' and profit of others. I think that's one of the reasons the PU community got such a bad reputation and confused so many people. For every 1 decent guru, there are 20 other dodgy ones just looking to make a quick buck and teaching absolute rubbish. A healthy amount of skepticism is definitely needed when looking at both dating coaches and life coaches. | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 08:58 AM |
| 1 | The Natural Lifestyle are taking down their YouTube videos on cold approaching to prevent their channel being banned. They took a lot down already. They're also changing their direction away from seduction. If you want to watch their videos on pick-up, do it now before they're all gone.And other videos as well on cold approaching have been removed. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing the whole PUA industry is going into self improvement and away from seduction and cold approaching. But I thought I would give a heads up to anybody who follows TNL or likes cold approaching so they can watch these videos before they are gone. So many PU channels on YouTube that have taken down their videos on cold approaching. It's going to be a different world for beginners that joi… | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 07:51 AM |
| 2 | The Natural Lifestyle are taking down their YouTube videos on cold approaching to prevent their channel being banned. They took a lot down already. They're also changing their direction away from seduction. If you want to watch their videos on pick-up, do it now before they're all gone.Some of their videos are still there, but they have removed a lot of it. There used to be more. And 'The Natural Lifestyle' YouTube account replied to one of the comments on its videos saying it was in the process of taking down more of its videos to prevent the account being banned. | /r/seduction | 12/03/20 07:46 AM |
| 3 | Does anyone else feel like more girls react to cold approaching in bars as if you approached on the street/bus/whatever nowadays?I think it might have to do with the rise of social media and dating apps. I feel that girls now, the new generation especially, are used to meeting guys through dating apps and social media, and look for guys there. So that might be why there is the culture shift. I do know a lot of bars and nightclubs have been closing down because less people go there these days. The way to meet people is changing, and we're caught in the middle of this shift. | /r/seduction | 11/03/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | I work 6 days a week so have no time for cold approach, which in my experience takes lot of time for little results, with girls I share nothing in common with. I want to try meetup groups & classes on my 1 day of to meet people I share things in common with. Are there any gurus who teach this style?Completely agree, joining a social group can get great results. Yeah, I don't like dating apps either. Some people like dating apps, but it's just not for me. I've always preferred that face to face interaction when meeting people. Well done on finding such a nice girl! That's incredible to hear. 🙂👍🏼 | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 12:38 PM |
| 1 | I work 6 days a week so have no time for cold approach, which in my experience takes lot of time for little results, with girls I share nothing in common with. I want to try meetup groups & classes on my 1 day of to meet people I share things in common with. Are there any gurus who teach this style?In my experience with cold approaching, I get rejected a lot, and have very few of them go on dates with me. And most of those girls I do go out on dates from cold approach I don't have anything in common with. I've had much better luck meeting girls from meet-ups. I once went to a writing group where I number closed a pretty blonde girl in less than 10 minutes (this had nothing to do with my 'social skills', but just that we were both passionate about writing). I did salsa dancing once and met … | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 12:04 PM |
| 1 | I work 6 days a week so have no time for cold approach, which in my experience takes lot of time for little results, with girls I share nothing in common with. I want to try meetup groups & classes on my 1 day of to meet people I share things in common with. Are there any gurus who teach this style?Thanks for your advice. I will keep that in mind. :) | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 11:52 AM |
| 1 | I work 6 days a week so have no time for cold approach, which in my experience takes lot of time for little results, with girls I share nothing in common with. I want to try meetup groups & classes on my 1 day of to meet people I share things in common with. Are there any gurus who teach this style?Thank you for your reply. Yeah, definitely agree. I wasn't planning to date them straight away. Just get to know them and build a friendship group, then go from there if something happens. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my post. I appreciate it. :) | /r/seduction | 04/03/20 11:08 AM |
| 1 | I was obsessed with cold approaching and game. Now I got a girlfriend, but can't stop cold approaching. I find myself automatically starting conversations with random girls nearby. How do I stop? My habit and identity keeps making me do that bc I invested so much time into learning this.It took me a long time to realize it. And it's not an identity I want. I'm working on creating a new identity for myself, to hopefully cure myself of this. | /r/seduction | 20/10/19 05:24 AM |
| 1 | I was obsessed with cold approaching and game. Now I got a girlfriend, but can't stop cold approaching. I find myself automatically starting conversations with random girls nearby. How do I stop? My habit and identity keeps making me do that bc I invested so much time into learning this.I've been Mr Game for years. And that's why now I'm struggling to stop. But I need to, bc it's not normal for a guy in a committed relationship to be opening random girls. Other boyfriends may occassionaly talk to random girls, but not at the level I'm doing it. I don't to hurt or embarrass my girlfriend. Her family and friends may think there is something wrong with her for being in a relationship with a guy who is always introducing himself to random girls. From normal society's point of view,… | /r/seduction | 02/09/19 12:43 AM |
| 1 | I was obsessed with cold approaching and game. Now I got a girlfriend, but can't stop cold approaching. I find myself automatically starting conversations with random girls nearby. How do I stop? My habit and identity keeps making me do that bc I invested so much time into learning this.I worry I will hurt or embarrass my girlfriend though, bc normal boyfriend don't do stuff like this. Her family and friends will think it's weird her boyfriend is doing stuff like this. | /r/seduction | 02/09/19 12:38 AM |
| 1 | I was obsessed with cold approaching and game. Now I got a girlfriend, but can't stop cold approaching. I find myself automatically starting conversations with random girls nearby. How do I stop? My habit and identity keeps making me do that bc I invested so much time into learning this.I want to stop bc my girlfriend won't like me just going up to start conversations with random girls in the street. Her friends and family will also think it's weird her boyfriend is doing stuff like this. I don't want to hurt or embarrass her. Normal boyfriends don't go out there cold approaching. They might occassionaly talk to random girls, but not at the volume I'm doing it. I do want to get married some day, so I will need to stop gaming and cold approaching other girls. But I'm struggling … | /r/seduction | 02/09/19 12:36 AM |
| 3 | I was obsessed with cold approaching and game. Now I got a girlfriend, but can't stop cold approaching. I find myself automatically starting conversations with random girls nearby. How do I stop? My habit and identity keeps making me do that bc I invested so much time into learning this.I think I see it as my identity, it's who I am to start conversations with random girls. I wouldn't say I'm chatty, bc I am an introvert. I do it bc it validates my identity. Without Game, I don't know who I am. | /r/seduction | 02/09/19 12:27 AM |
| 1 | The 4 ways I know of to meet girlsI totally forgot about online/Tinder game. Thanks for pointing that out. 🙂 What is Territorial Game and Niche Game? I'm fairly new to this, so don't know all the different types of game yet. | /r/seduction | 28/08/19 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Studying PUA made my "social anxiety" worseI've had a similar experience. I watched some video by Mystery and a few others where they were saying "If you talk to 5 girls, all 5 girls have to like you." I believed that for a long time, and tried to achieve it, but eventually realized it's impossible. I also had the idea that I needed to have lots and lots of friends to 'prove' my social skills were good. I had built up several social circles and had a total of over 30 friends, and still felt it wasn't enough. Even though before I got into… | /r/seduction | 22/08/19 07:13 AM |
| 1 | I have come up with a rule that I will only put in the effort to impress girls between the age of 22 and 26, and will ignore all other girls. There have been some surprising benefits.Thank you so much! You are a really nice person for taking the time to explain this to me. I appreciate it! I hope you have a great week ahead of you. 🙂 | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/19 06:21 PM |
| 1 | I have come up with a rule that I will only put in the effort to impress girls between the age of 22 and 26, and will ignore all other girls. There have been some surprising benefits.I also thought the PUA scene was about guys spending all their time chasing girls, and not having any close guy friends. I met a few PUA's, and they spent all their time talking about girls, and didn't have many guy friends because they were always AMOG (put down other guys). I didn't feel I could connect with them. I want to be part of a movement where I spend most of my time on my work, studies, and hobbies. And not to think or talk about girls much, or at all. I also want to have a group of s… | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/19 02:43 PM |
| 1 | I have come up with a rule that I will only put in the effort to impress girls between the age of 22 and 26, and will ignore all other girls. There have been some surprising benefits.I think I get it. So if I have girls that I get into sexual situations with, but not a relationship, does that count as MGTOW? Because right now that is where I might be going towards. I've been building a group of close guy friends for emotional support because I have learnt I can't get emotional support from girls. Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I appreciate it. 🙂 | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/19 02:20 PM |
| 2 | I have come up with a rule that I will only put in the effort to impress girls between the age of 22 and 26, and will ignore all other girls. There have been some surprising benefits.This rule makes me reduce desire for girls, and makes me more forgiving of girls. So I found it helpful. And I was partly motivated to follow this rule after reading about the 'wall' in MGTOW, which is that a girl loses attractiveness after a certain age. So I thought it was MGTOW. But I will admit I know very little about these things. What do you think is an alternative that doesn't add to the problem? I'm always happy to hear other perspectives. | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/19 11:37 AM |
| 5 | I have come up with a rule that I will only put in the effort to impress girls between the age of 22 and 26, and will ignore all other girls. There have been some surprising benefits.This is a really good rule too. 👍 | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/19 03:59 AM |
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