Morokweng Archive

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1	What do I say to directly ask a girl to go home with me but do so respectfully? I don't see why Game proponents say that. Because they've actually gone outside and talked to girls. Tens of thousands of man hours worth of interactions and sharing of information... If it were as simple as just going up to a girl and saying "Hey wanna fuck?" then game wouldn't exist at all. Straight men would get laid just as much as gay men, who by the way, get laid an insane amount. there are many studies done concluding that women are just as attracted to men in the same way. Attraction get…	/r/seduction	14/09/17 07:16 PM
2	What do I say to directly ask a girl to go home with me but do so respectfully? Its one thing to be polarizing and being clear in your intent, but asking a girl to go home with you right off the open isn't "screening" its stupid and lazy. Female arousal doesn't work like male arousal. A hot girl shows interest in us and we're good to go whenever. With girls its like rubbing sticks together to get a fire, you have to start with a spark, but if you give it time, space and air, it will grow and burn your house down. There might be some tiny proportion of girls who your approac…	/r/seduction	12/09/17 11:08 PM
9	Review: RSD Las Vegas Immersion/Bootcamp with RSD Luke I've always got the impression from Luke's youtube videos that he has excellent game, but doesn't really give a shit about teaching. He just gives off a vibe that he'd really rather be doing something else. However there are other RSD guys that are clearly passionate about teaching and produce good content. Personally I don't think I'd ever pay for a bootcamp or program like immersion though.	/r/seduction	04/08/17 11:07 AM
3	[FR] Hugged the girl I'm going for. Looking for advice. Um well... stop focusing on just one girl. What the fuck are you doing? Get volume.	/r/seduction	03/08/17 11:09 PM
9	Alpha Males Do Not Exist Success with women means just that, it doesn't mean any of the stuff you said. You can learn game and become a better man in order to have mad sex rampages with endless streams of girls, or you can do it just to find that one girl... However from a purely practical standpoint you're only going to find your soulmate if you have an abundant selection to choose from. In any case if you want success with a hundred women or just one, you need to be the kind of man who can give her what she needs. You…	/r/seduction	03/08/17 02:04 PM
-1	suggestions for going out with 2 girls I go to a club to get a girl and take her home. Taking a girl to the club is just bizzaro game.	/r/seduction	03/08/17 01:49 PM
8	suggestions for going out with 2 girls Taking a girl to a nightclub is like taking a warm beer to a bar where they give away free cold beers... Taking a girl and her friend to a nightclub is just... why are you even entertaining this idea?	/r/seduction	03/08/17 12:27 PM
2	Should I even bother with Tinder if I don't have a car? Uber is not an option for me (can't afford) You should be arranging dates close to your place anyway, for optimal logistics.	/r/seduction	03/08/17 10:37 AM
1	First approach after a lot of time, got a fake number, lost part of my motivation. You're focused on outcome. And your focus on outcome negatively affects the outcome. Focus on process, doing your best, identifying areas of weakness and improving on them.	/r/seduction	03/08/17 09:16 AM
16	Alpha Males Do Not Exist The alpha/beta dichotomy doesn't need to actually scientifically exist for it to be a useful framework to describe a set of common male behaviours that are pertinent to success with women. If we didn't use those terms then we'd have to invent some other terms that served the same purpose anyway.	/r/seduction	03/08/17 09:10 AM
1	am I depressed? I spent most of my 20s in a deep depression, suicidal thoughts and everything. Doing the things I described helped to get me out of it, but you're right that addressing the root cause is the most important thing. I never got therapy, but recently I did get Julien's transformation mastery program, which is pretty much focused on addressing the root cause of emotional issues. Worth checking out I'd say.	/r/seduction	02/08/17 10:55 AM
8	Stop being scared, you might regret it one day (X-Post from r/GetMotivated) Its not so much that you should stop being scared, its more that you should do it in spite of being scared. Everything you've ever wanted is on the other side of fear.	/r/seduction	02/08/17 09:07 AM
4	Girls love fuckbois? They mostly want authenticity	/r/seduction	02/08/17 12:23 AM
3	Girls love fuckbois? Different people like different things. The world is too complicated for simple questions like this.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 10:54 PM
4	What are your hobbies and how do you leverage them in Seduction? Mate come on. Flashbang and rush B.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 10:49 PM
1	How to actually love yourself. The deeper I get into self-development, the more I see people unironically using the word chakra... I mean, I know why, but I still find it weird. But yeah, you seem to be talking about a lot of the stuff Julien Blanc talks about these days. Its good shit, but a lot of people aren't ready for that kind of stuff and they'll just think its spiritual woo. I know I would have thought that a few years ago.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 09:38 PM
1	How old are you guys actually? I'm 32. Got into this stuff a few years ago and had some successes, but lost focus on it for a while due to some other stuff happening in my life. Been focusing on it again lately and things are going nicely.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 07:12 PM
1	am I depressed? Yeah probably. Stop watching porn, get out of the house, exercise, eat right, meditate, get social and/or outdoor hobbies, get a job, make friends, talk to hoes, accept and forgive yourself for your flaws and realise that happiness and confidence are your default state and you're just disconnected from it due to emotional baggage.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 05:48 PM
3	Should you lower you standards? Look dude. I know that losing your virginity is a big fucking deal, but that's not your goal when you go out to approach a girl when learning to game. If you make "get laid" your sole objective while out, you're going to fucking fail and fail and fail and then quit and turn into a bitter butthurt woman-hating fuck posting on /r/mgtow. Don't lower your standard in girls, lower your standards for what you can realistically accomplish in a given night. Give yourself a chance to succeed by setting r…	/r/seduction	01/08/17 05:41 PM
2	what did I do wrong? "Badoo is crashing on me haha" - yeah sure it is. If you have no game don't use online dating as a crutch, get out there and approach some bitchez.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 05:26 PM
6	What are your hobbies and how do you leverage them in Seduction? Comedy improv. It teaches: Presence Listening How to follow threads in a conversation Escalating a situation and make things more fun How to work with what you're given and make the best of it Quick thinking How to recover from a bad situation Speaking in front of a lot of people Humour (obviously) Authenticity (not so obviously) Improv teaches you to lower the bar for what comes out of your mouth and know that a lot of what you say is probably going to be fine anyway. So many guys who get stifl…	/r/seduction	01/08/17 04:45 PM
3	Finally worked up the guts to approach. Good job. But avoid cinema dates, there's a time and a place to sit awkwardly in the dark with someone, and that comes after the date. Also Dunkirk is a good film, but its defiantly not a fun film to watch and I'd definitely avoid it as a 'first date'. Take her to a sports bar or something and play pool instead.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 02:34 PM
1	How to be a “Lover of Women” Try what? Its nothing but a list of Facebook-tier platitudes here. What actionable advice is there to try?	/r/seduction	01/08/17 01:41 PM
10	Never Land in The Friend Zone Again: How to Be Man To Woman Yeah the article seems fine. I don't have any particular objection to what redpill teaches, like its not that they're going around saying stuff that is wrong, its just unpalatable to the mainstream (like the rest of pickup) and also a lot of the people who follow it are very... butthurt. There's a negative angry energy and often a lot of victim mentality about the community, which I don't think is healthy for long-term growth.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 12:06 PM
2	How to be a “Lover of Women” I don't see this as useful advice.	/r/seduction	01/08/17 08:48 AM
151	Women are more attracted to men when they are uncertain of his feelings, research finds. So, the old dating advice about ‘playing hard-to-get’ may have some scientific basis. But Hollywood told me I just have to buy her flowers and tell her that I've secretly loved her for years, and then she'll immediately love me back.	/r/seduction	30/07/17 03:43 PM
3	What are some good transition steps between hanging out and a kiss? For every stage of physical escalation you use the traffic light system. Red (no) - If you go to hug a girl and she pushes you away, or you go for a kiss and she gives you her cheek or asks wtf you're doing. In this instance stop what you're doing and back off, if its a strong no then you can take a physical step back and apologise and say you're in a good mood or whatever, and then change the subject. Try again later. Amber (neutral) - If you go to touch a girl and she kind of just lets it happ…	/r/seduction	30/07/17 03:38 PM
4	I'm currently at the lowest point of my life, and need advice to rebuild myself from the ground up. I need to get out of my comfort zone, but how? Don't give yourself a deadline. The time is going to pass and one day you're going to be dead anyway, so you might as well commit to having a good life before you turn to dust. I started pretty much where you are now, so I'd say that transformation is entirely possible. But I don't think that the deadline will help you in any way. Being overweight... start eating right and going to the gym, which you have started so good on you. Do compound lifts and cardio, don't injure yourself, read Starting …	/r/seduction	30/07/17 01:10 PM
11	Too much confidence No. But lack of social awareness and lack of self awareness is.	/r/seduction	28/07/17 06:24 PM
4	Getting Girls to text first Well that is what RSD kind of focuses on a lot to be honest. Julien's Transformation Mastery program is pretty much entirely about resolving your emotional issues. So this whole thing was sort of half-joking half-serious. Its weird that the deeper I get into self-development, the more likely I am to find someone I respect unironically using words like chakra.	/r/seduction	28/07/17 06:17 PM
11	Getting Girls to text first Each chakra is blocked by a certain type of negative emotion. The root chakra located at the base of the spine deals with survival and is blocked by fear. The sacral chakra deals with pleasure and is blocked by guilt. The solar plexis deals with willpower and is blocked by shame. The heart chakra deals with love and is blocked by grief. The throat chakra deals with truth and is blocked by lies. The third eye deals with insight and is blocked by illusion. The crown chakra deals with cosmic energy…	/r/seduction	28/07/17 06:13 PM
1	Two things that helped me be attractive to women. Examples included. It doesn't take much to be attractive to women, just don't be morbidly obese. I'm 5'10 and 100kg, and it ain't muscle, I'm overweight yet I still get attraction on a regular basis. But girls aren't going to sleep with you just because they're attracted, they just give you some attention. Game is somewhat about generating attraction through your personality, and also about coaxing arousal out of them, because arousal is what leads to sex. Preoccupation with being physically attractive comes from …	/r/seduction	28/07/17 02:32 PM
27	Getting Girls to text first Allow the light of cosmic consciousness to shine through your open chakras when you meet them, they'll feel connection to a high-vibration emotional energy through your presence and this will inevitably lead to her texting you first. But yeah I dunno man, just make a better impression on them.	/r/seduction	28/07/17 02:27 PM
1	London Day Game - 2nd F Close in 5 days Either instant after I open, or they fizzle out after a minute or 2. So you have a description of the problem, now you go and research possible solutions or insight into the true nature of the problem.Do you have any pickup teachers that you particularly like or resonate with? If so search their content for an answer to your sticking point. If you apply their advice and notice no change, try another person's style and see if that works. There's really so much stuff out there that can address thi…	/r/seduction	27/07/17 11:24 PM
1	London Day Game - 2nd F Close in 5 days Mark Manson is kinda like you describe, but RSD use a ton of techniques that go alongside the inner game stuff. But even with inner game you can be emotionally aware of yourself enough to know when you're being needy or unclear in your intent.	/r/seduction	27/07/17 10:46 PM
6	London Day Game - 2nd F Close in 5 days Approaches will lead you to getting laid!!! Its a numbers game guys :) Every time someone says this a virgin dies alone. Its not a numbers game, its a learning game. You can't just approach with no self-awareness and no ability to spot your own mistakes, thinking that if you just approach you'll automatically become a pimp. Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.	/r/seduction	27/07/17 02:10 PM
1	How do I approach this cute girl in my class? No it isn't the point of the question. You asked for the most non-creepy way to approach a specific girl in a class of 120 people... and then subsequently deleted your question. If you'd learn how to approach in general, you could approach anyone anywhere. The other guy in this this thread telling you to ask for a pen is clearly has no idea what he's talking about either, unclear intentions are the easiest way to be percieved as a creep. You might as well be in /r/dating_advice right now.	/r/seduction	27/07/17 12:45 PM
0	How do I approach this cute girl in my class? I hate it when people come here to ask questions like this. The whole point of game is that its a skill set. You come here to learn the skill so that you don't have to ask questions like this. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for the rest of his life... You're here to beg for a fish. So lets say we answer your question... What happens after you open her? What's the next thing you say? And the thing after that? Do you want us to spoonfeed you line…	/r/seduction	27/07/17 11:32 AM
1	Best "how to do pua" materials? Ah you thought that after you conquered your approach anxiety it would be plain sailing. Sorry friend, it's not. Videos that you're asking for do exist, but they're video courses that you have to pay for. Plus even then you can't just watch a video and instantly be good at this. I'd recommend just identifying what particular sticking point you're facing right now and finding material that address that. Then keep doing that, because you don't get to stop learning.	/r/seduction	27/07/17 08:49 AM
4	What level of attractiveness should I be expecting to pull in women? Attraction gets you the girl's attention more easily. It doesn't get the girl to sleep with you. Arousal gets the girl to sleep with you. Female arousal works differently to male arousal. Men see a hot girl and they're attracted and will pretty much ready to go whenever, but a girl's arousal builds up like a flame. When lighting a fire you might have to coax it a bit to get it going, but once its burning it can grow until its burning your house down. That coaxing and expanding is what game is fo…	/r/seduction	27/07/17 12:05 AM
3	What's the guy equivalent to girls swaying their hips to a song? Just focus on having fun, not on how you look.	/r/seduction	26/07/17 11:08 PM
3	Help building a social life from nothing I recommend comedy improv, I go to a kind of drop-in thing every week. Usually good people and a non-judgemental environment while also doing things that are scary. Plus they teach things that are valuable in game, such as presence, dealing with social pressure, being able to adapt quickly and talk about any subject. You can try meetup.com and find a local group that just does casual meetups in pubs and bars. The majority of people in those groups tend to be quite socially awkward, but I made so…	/r/seduction	26/07/17 01:49 PM
1	10 Pickup Community Myths That Holding You Back Interesting video, but it doesn't really provide a lot of practical information other than your tip about moving girls and always babystepping them closer to the exit and your place. And saying that you've proven things and how well you do isn't necessarily very compelling if you're trying to make a point. Humans resonate with storytelling and examples far more strongly than just "believe me guys, I proved it". Good content though, I'll check out your other videos.	/r/seduction	26/07/17 11:20 AM
34	How can you actually approach? The why is the how. Figure out your motivations for actually doing this pickup stuff. And figure them out on multiple levels. Petty, practical and higher motivations. So a petty motivation might be you want a hot girl on your arm or to be able to pull reliably for validation, so all your friends think you're cool, or to rub it in the face of some ex who dumped you or whatever. This petty motivation can be powerful and spur you on to action, but is usually shortlived because after you achieve you…	/r/seduction	26/07/17 08:55 AM
3	I unknowingly started dating two girls that are friends with each other. Ride it out or say something? I highly doubt you'd be in that situation, because you're insecure and manipulative, which are signs of low self-esteem. Who gives a shit if he loses them both? Just get more girls.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 10:38 PM
4	I unknowingly started dating two girls that are friends with each other. Ride it out or say something? Excuse for what? If you think he needs an excuse to date multiple girls, maybe a more mainstream sub like /r/relationships_advice would be a better place for you to post? Because if you think dating mutliple girls requires some kind of dishonesty or manipulation, you don't belong here.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 10:32 PM
2	I seem to be more worried about the social judgment of a cold approach than the girls judgment...? This is a weak point for me. I suck at opening in daygame. However I can open in any setting that already has a social vibe, even if me opening in that setting would be less socially calibrated than just opening a girl at random on the street. Its just something that I have to work on.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 10:01 PM
1	The moderators of this subreddit are cancerous af Are you mad that you can't post links to your shitty blog?	/r/seduction	25/07/17 04:29 PM
8	How can you assume attraction to make your interactions go better? Realise that the only IOI you need is the fact that she's still there talking to you.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 04:27 PM
2	Guys with big dicks, do you ever use it to pick girls up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HilyOLWzrM	/r/seduction	25/07/17 04:01 PM
5	Is seduction a necessary evil ? Game isn't evil unless you're being manipulative and deceptive, trying to take value, and generally approach it from an overall negative butthurt frame of mind. If you're positive and grateful then game and interacting with women can be very wholesome. Game has been a means for me to improve myself as a man, learn social skills, develop self esteem and confidence, overcome emotional issues, learn to connect with and empathize with people, and raise my overall emotional awareness and state. It is…	/r/seduction	25/07/17 12:12 PM
2	Broke my dry spell I wouldn't go that far. This sub is garbage because its full of idiots, and the quality of the content and advice here is very low, but game in general isn't a placebo. As it can provide practical courses of action to deal with particular sticking points either within yourself, or in overcoming external obstacles. But ultimately game is easy, we just make game it hard because of our unresolved emotional bullshit.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 11:29 AM
2	Broke my dry spell The fact that someone can be successful just from reading the garbage posted on this subreddit is truly inspiring, and should give hope to anyone.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 10:49 AM
12	Girls, especially pretty & popular ones, are way more experienced at "the game" than we give them credit for. Step your game up, way up! Most women play games and shit-test us way more often than we think. It important to realise that girls don't test guys consciously, they don't actively study this stuff, they do it automatically as part of the sexuality because they have to be sure that you're really an alpha and she doesn't make the mistake of potentially getting knocked up by a spineless turd. If you're learning pickup with a conscious awareness of this stuff and you call a girl out on the games and shit tests, she's not goin…	/r/seduction	25/07/17 10:01 AM
1	Why are PUAs so f**king black and white I'm glad we're having a thread complaining about the dominant views of the seduction community as it was 15 years ago... Really topical.	/r/seduction	25/07/17 08:45 AM
1	So are there any thing a virgin should consider or watch out for the moment that first successful lay actually happens? I'm not taking anything personally, I just think you're stupid at this point. I really don't know what else I can say.	/r/seduction	24/07/17 10:44 PM
–	So are there any thing a virgin should consider or watch out for the moment that first successful lay actually happens? Thinking PRIMARILY of your own pleasure and NOT caring about your partners pleasure at all IS selfish no matter how you try to spin it. You're a retard if you think that's what I said. In my post I explicitly said: Its much better for each person to focus on their own needs, not in a selfish way of course, by all means help each other out, but do it from a place of giving and communicate honestly. You're being a dumb faggot and you need to snap out of it. I'm not even reading the rest of your po…	/r/seduction	24/07/17 10:23 PM
49	I asked a girl to have coffee with me. She insisted a dinner so I agreed. I wanted to be a date, but I didn't specify. Now she wants to bring a friend. I asked who she wanted to bring she said she didn't know yet. How do I handle this situation without being awkward? It was probably a test and you caved in to try to please her instead of staying true to yourself. Now she knows you're a beta. Best to just next her and remember that just because a woman asks you to do something, you don't have to fucking agree to do it. You need to be willing to walk away.	/r/seduction	24/07/17 03:35 PM
2	So are there any thing a virgin should consider or watch out for the moment that first successful lay actually happens? Being selfish and thinking about just yourself also isn't a good thing either. Its not selfish to prioritize your own needs, I even said "not in a selfish way" in my post. This is classic black-and-white niceguy thinking right here. If you're not a doormat then you must be a selfish asshole. Wrong. If a girl put my needs above their own then and she's not willing to compromise after I explain my stance to her than we may have a problem. You're the one with the problem, and the first step to deal…	/r/seduction	24/07/17 11:40 AM
6	So are there any thing a virgin should consider or watch out for the moment that first successful lay actually happens? ? Why would it be bad to prioritize the girls pleasure over myself? I'm a giver at heart and if I had to choose between my pleasure and hers I'd pick theirs. Its not really giving if you're feeding a compulsion, or your ego is wrapped up in her enjoying the sex. This need to please others probably points to an underlying problem you have of being uncomfortable with getting your own needs met. Its possible that at some point in your childhood you didn't get your needs met, you concluded that havi…	/r/seduction	24/07/17 09:48 AM
13	So are there any thing a virgin should consider or watch out for the moment that first successful lay actually happens? Realise that sex isn't like porn. It's not supposed to be pretty or smooth, it can be messy and awkward just like the rest of your interactions with a girl you're trying to pull. But relax, let her relax too, female arousal is dependent on a feeling of security and comes from a slow gradual buildup over time. Girls like foreplay a whole bunch, they also usually like hair pulling and spanking and stuff like that. Neck kissing and nibbling. Do that stuff. Girls tend to cum easier if you play with …	/r/seduction	24/07/17 09:12 AM
1	Problems between opening and conversation. The rules of verbal game: It doesn't matter what you say, its about how you say it. If you're telling a boring story you can make it compelling by adding color. Describe what it looked and sounded like and most importantly (because girls are driven by feelings) how it made you feel. You're 50, you should have stories to tell. It doesn't matter what she's interested in, the majority of girls just sit at home watching Love Island. Talk about your own passions, if you're passionate about something …	/r/seduction	24/07/17 02:12 AM
1	You are not trying nearly enough isn't that kind of the idea of 'game'? that you use the principles to make the girl like you? It really depends on what level you're operating at. If you go and say one thing, it gets a good response, and then you try the exact same thing on another set because it got a good response, the words and the delivery could be exactly the same, but the place its coming is probably different and it will not get the same response. Or indeed the set you approach could just be having a bad night. Probably …	/r/seduction	23/07/17 07:44 PM
1	You are not trying nearly enough I might try to approach using teh same vibe after a good set thinking i've maybe worked something out, and then the next girl will be like ''Go away!'' lol So you're going up and hoping this technique that you learned will make the girl like you. This sounds like you're very outcome dependent. Also are you writing field reports? Are you aware of your own internal emotional state and motivations?	/r/seduction	23/07/17 03:51 PM
0	Cleaning the gutters Just say what works for you Just b urself. Is that what you wanted? Girls aren't a puzzle that you solve with a formula of repeatable actions and are then rewarded with sex. If you think this way then you're just stupid and you should give up on this and remove yourself from the gene pool.	/r/seduction	23/07/17 01:57 PM
11	Is cold approach a scam in 2017 In the age of social media, smartphone, online dating , mobile nature of work decent looking girls have hundreds ( if not thousands of suitors) , why would she go for some random guy she met on streets . I just can't understand this . Because you actually talking to her in person has a far greater impact than being lost among the flood of thirsty betas all filling up her inbox with shitty messages. Why would you actually choose a medium that is completely saturated with competition from guys too…	/r/seduction	23/07/17 01:41 PM
1	Should I be approaching every hot girl at a party? Er. Try this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwoHocvW6A	/r/seduction	23/07/17 03:04 AM
7	Simple introduction at club/bar? Don't buy drinks for anyone... unless you're on a date with a girl, they like that. But really, think about what you're asking here. You're asking for an opener to go talk to a group of people. So lets say we give you the most mind-blowing opener in the world, you go up to a table, and use it, they respond well and say hi... now what? Would you like us to tell you what you should say second, third, fourth, and for the rest of the night? We can't do that. You have to let this stuff come from with…	/r/seduction	22/07/17 07:07 PM
7	Should I be approaching every hot girl at a party? Ok... then go for it.	/r/seduction	22/07/17 06:10 PM
1	A question about inner game and leaving an interesting life Two examples would be that I don't like being at the Beach with friends and also don't like partying Why exactly don't you enjoy these things? Do you work out and eat right? Are you overweight?	/r/seduction	22/07/17 05:59 PM
7	Should I be approaching every hot girl at a party? If its a private party then no. Social game is different from nightclub game. You're not doing cold approach pickup anymore, you're doing warm approach because you're at a party with people you know, and people that know the people you know, etc. You have a right to be there and talk to people. In fact it would be kind of weird if you went and then didn't talk to people. Go to the party, have fun at the party, talk to people. Absolutely talk to girls, but in a more relaxed way because simply by …	/r/seduction	22/07/17 05:48 PM
3	[30m] Best way to seal the deal with married [43f] A) Because the guy might go nuts and literally kill you. B) You live right next door so he knows where to find you. C) It wouldn't be very Christian of you. D) You're a dumbass.	/r/seduction	22/07/17 03:24 PM
14	Am I an idiot? puella magi Madoka magica Yes you are an idiot.	/r/seduction	22/07/17 03:14 PM
8	You are not trying nearly enough It does if you don't have the self-awareness to recognise and correct your mistakes. If you listen to some of the chodes on this board who say that "its just a numbers game bro", then you abdicate responsibility for your own improvement and learning. You see pickup as a passive process you can just autopilot through, and where you don't have to think or develop as a man. You just keep approaching and then eventually, you'll magically turn into a pimp. With learning how to paint (or any other ski…	/r/seduction	22/07/17 01:25 PM
1	How many approaches you do in a week? Back to /r/incels with you kiddo.	/r/seduction	22/07/17 09:51 AM
1	What should I do if I think about girls 24/7 Because they adopt pickup as an identity, and become a weird pickup guy who ONLY does pickup, has no other interests, and has nothing else going on in their lives.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 09:19 PM
1	What should I do if I think about girls 24/7 The point of pickup is that female attraction is cued largely off behaviour. If you act like an alpha, if you come across as confident, non-needy and happy, the girl will be attracted. Ideally you actually cultivate these attitudes within yourself so that you embody them rather than just putting on a facade in front of your whiny insecure beta self. There are a vast number of factors within your control. Optimize what you can and just accept the rest. I mean look at RSD Tyler, he's a short baldi…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 08:48 PM
1	What should I do if I think about girls 24/7 If looks mattered then why would pickup exist?	/r/seduction	21/07/17 08:07 PM
1	Tuesday approaches [FR] Try to focus on that I'd say, yeah.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 07:54 PM
2	How many approaches you do in a week? I can't tell if you're being obtuse. But if you're not and you think this is about performing a certain set of actions to solve the girl puzzle and unlock the reward of sex, then you're a lost cause.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 06:47 PM
2	How many approaches you do in a week? You clearly have given up on being self-aware or learning anything. How do you think pickup works? You just blindly approach girls and at some point without any concious thought on your part you'll just suddenly have game. Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent. If you practice shit game without noticing what you're doing wrong and ACTIVELY CORRECTING IT, you'll carry on having shit game. Congratulations, your lazyness and passive attitude to learning has wasted 2 years of effor…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 06:32 PM
3	English Guy who teaches day game etc... Hold on there... Are you trying to shove pickup down your chode friend's throat. Don't do that. As men there are two massive delusions we have, one is that were good with girls, and the other is that we can win a fight without any training. Do not tell your friend that he sucks with women, and then tell him that you have the answer, you're effectively attacking his manhood and his ego will cause him to resist what you're prescribing and he will resent you. Lead by example, get your own shit hand…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 06:27 PM
42	Guy is coming on too strong and I told him to slow down... now he's acting cold. So he withdrew the validation he was giving you and you started thinking about him so much you came to this board to make a thread about him... Sounds like he's doing it right.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 06:22 PM
3	How many approaches you do in a week? Jesus, what the actual fuck are you doing? After 2 years you should be a pimp	/r/seduction	21/07/17 06:18 PM
3	Please help with a pun/name pun to go along with this. You're in your apartment, a beautiful girl sitting on your couch, you're in the kitchen getting her a drink, franticly posting a reddit thread on your phone: "Please help, how do I get a girl from the couch to my bedroom?" Later, the girl lies on your bed, the dim light of the bedside lamp playfully glancing off her supple half-naked body, her deep dark eyes gaze at you while she bites her lower lip... You quickly pull out your phone and post a reddit thread "Uh guys, does this girl like me? Als…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 01:00 PM
5	How would you get your friend to be okay with you sleeping with his daughter? There are other 18 year olds in the world. Fuck them, don't fuck up your friendship.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 10:41 AM
1	So how important is dressing style when it comes to approaching women? This coming from the guy who posted a thread about his irrational fear of allowing a girl to see that he's wearing underpants that have the same pattern on them as other ones that she might have seen, and one before that entitled "Should I continue to lie about my virginity to this girl?" You should not be dispensing any advice to anyone. The truth is that whatever you feel, she will feel. If you feel insecure about your clothes, she'll think they're weird. That's it. Wear what makes you feel co…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 10:38 AM
-1	What are ways for a guy to know how attractive he is? What is "attractive" to you? You're a man, so you probably think of physical attributes when you think "attractive". So you think you need to be tall, have abs, chiseled jaw, great hair etc. Those things are helpful, but if that's all that mattered then pickup wouldn't exist. Attraction for girls is rooted a lot more heavily in the behaviour and vibe that you put out. I mean, look at Owen from RSD, or indeed most pickup guys, they're not exactly conforming to the societal norms of what is consid…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 09:41 AM
20	What should I do if I think about girls 24/7 I have work to do, Ill be able to go get girls soon but not yet. This is an excuse. In order to grow as a person you have to do things before you think you're ready, because you will never feel ready until you've done the thing. Stop making excuses and take action, get experience at least approaching girls while you work towards your other goals.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 09:13 AM
4	People of r/seduction who were once bad with girls and are now drowning in pussy, what did you do to get to where you are today? You need emotional leverage on yourself. At some point the pain of not trying and wondering what might have been should outweigh the potential pain of rejection... And as you actually try you then you realise that rejection is no big deal anyway and you feel stupid for being so afraid.	/r/seduction	21/07/17 08:14 AM
1	THE ONE HACK WHO WILL GET YOU LAID. You do this and girls will stick to you like flies to shit. Right so you're going to dance her away from her friends? You going to dance your way to building rapport and trust? Have a dance-off with the guy that tries to steal her? Dance your way into her cab at the end of the night? Dance into bed? Social bs is important to learn and become adept at, if you think learning to dance can compensate for shitty social skills then you're wrong and your dance is a crutch which is going to hold you back as you take up a role of dancing monkey who entertains the…	/r/seduction	21/07/17 08:07 AM
0	Seducing a girl at the lab If you have no time to go out and game then I'm not sure how you'll have time to have a relationship. If you can make time for a girl, you can make time to go out and meet girls. And its not like you have a monopoly on being busy. Nobody can answer your question of "what do I say from start to finish". That's not how this stuff works. Your situation and query does not fit into the framework of game, and all you're going to get is the same dumb shit that you could have gotten on /r/relationships_…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 02:49 PM
1	Seducing a girl at the lab As far as I'm concerned the only help he needs is a kick in the ass. He doesn't need advice because he already knows that he should be going out and talking to girls, he even said that in his post. But he's not doing that, instead he's dedicating his precious time to pining over this one girl, and then complaining that he doesn't want to waste one of his few opportunities. And your advice seems to be predicated on the idea that anxiety and fear are valid reasons not to do something, which is fin…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 01:12 PM
2	Is it just me or do opinion openers seem odd? Or do you mean online dating? lol no, I mean natural game	/r/seduction	20/07/17 12:56 PM
0	Seducing a girl at the lab The thing is, I actually do this stuff and you don't. I'm applying the principals of game in my own life and learning as I go, and its not the mindless pursuit of pussy and hedonism. Game requires you to overcome fear, learn social skills, resolve your emotional issues, develop self-esteem, and generally become an all-round better man. Game is a path to personal and spiritual growth and mastery of the self. And it really boils my piss to see people who don't apply the principals of game in their…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 12:38 PM
3	How can I get the courage I need to text this girl? How do I grow a pair and get the courage to text her? Get more girls. That way you won't be needy with the one you actually like.	/r/seduction	20/07/17 12:03 PM
3	Is it just me or do opinion openers seem odd? I like RSD, lots of youtube content.	/r/seduction	20/07/17 11:39 AM
-1	Seducing a girl at the lab That doesn't help him at all. I tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. Your advice is the most basic useless mainstream girl advice imaginable. Pass her a note? And the wait for her to make the next move? lmao get the fuck outta here. This is a subreddit for pickup and game, y'know, stuff that actually works. if you want to give useless bog-standard chode relationship advice then there are other places to do that... and looking at your profile you seem to already post on…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 11:20 AM
2	Is it just me or do opinion openers seem odd? They're good if your goal is to get girls to talk. But other than that I don't see the point. Old-style routine based game has had its day, there's been over a decade of advances made since then, why would you drive a horse and cart when you can drive a car?	/r/seduction	20/07/17 10:40 AM
2	Does anyone have any non-instructional books that helped them with Game? I.e. fiction? You could try Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Generally I try to stick to non-fiction though.	/r/seduction	20/07/17 10:37 AM
1	How important is it when you're a virgin to keep that fact hidden when it comes to casual relationships? As long as I'm able to have a good comparison of which feels better that's all I'll need to keep myself from masturbating as much as I am that's all I really need. I guarantee that this will not happen. If you have sex once, even if its mind-blowing, you'll still want to masturbate. You know even when I go out of the house and do stuff eventually I gotta go home sometime and what do you think happens? all my pent up desires come out right and That's when my hormones soar and I start masturbating…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 10:16 AM
-1	Seducing a girl at the lab I guess I'm just wanting to know, what do I say from start to finish. Jesus fucking christ. Conversations don't work like that, nothing works like that. I just don't want to let the few chances I get fly me by. I keep telling myself that I'll go out and meet women when I become the person that I want to be and although I'm working on that, You complain about having "few chances" but you're too much of a pussy to go out and make your own chances by approaching girls? Fuck your excuses and fuck yo…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 09:57 AM
1	How important is it when you're a virgin to keep that fact hidden when it comes to casual relationships? but what I do know is that(at least i hope it does) is that I'll stop making me masturbate so much once i know what the better alternative is like. That's not true. If anything it'll just give you new wank material. If you have a masturbation problem you need to fix it yourself. In fact if you have any problems you need to fix them yourself, stop looking for some force outside of yourself to solve your problems for you, that kind of shitty attitude is probably why you're in this situation.. I do…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 09:24 AM
8	I'm a 20M virgin and am depressed, what can I do? I feel hopeless and I will never let myself live it down knowing it has taken this long for me to lose my virginity. There's a thread on this board right now by a guy who's a 30 year old virgin. So the question is not how much time you've taken to get here, the question is how much more time are you willing to waste by beating yourself up and making yourself feel like shit? You have found game, you found the solution to your problem. You already took the huge step of breaking social conditioning…	/r/seduction	20/07/17 09:14 AM
-1	How do I actually "seal the deal?" Learn game. See sidebar for details.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 10:39 PM
19	How important is it when you're a virgin to keep that fact hidden when it comes to casual relationships? It probably won't come up if you're pulling a girl from night game. Don't let this hold you back. However, remember that losing your virginity isn't going to magically solve all of your problems with life and self-esteem. You will feel the same afterwards, and your brain will find more bullshit excuses to make you feel afraid and anxious to talk to girls. Stop listening.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 10:35 PM
4	How do I fuck her like a man, and actually INITIATE stuff? I recommend deadlifts, and other compound lifts. Might as well train your whole body, not just your fuck muscles.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 10:30 PM
3	Tuesday approaches [FR] I'm sure you'll get there in the end. Your report is again very fact-based, I see pickup and social interaction in general is an emotional process, facts and logic have a very peripheral role. As a general principal I think you should work on reconnecting with your emotions and trying to be more aware of what feelings arise inside of you which might be helping or hindering you, as well as being more aware of the girls' subjective emotional experience as you talk to them. For example, the girl wh…	/r/seduction	19/07/17 10:28 PM
0	Moving to California for girls Where did I say I was insecure over my race? Cuz you mentioned it, and you're considering moving somewhere because of it. We all know it's a numbers game. People with shit game say this.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 04:25 PM
5	How do I fuck her like a man, and actually INITIATE stuff? You're very focused on anatomy, just find out which positions you both like. Do this by communicating.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 03:33 PM
3	I forget how to flirt with girls I'm *really* in to. Yep. Lack of entitlement, dependent on outcome, needy, stifled, scared to show your intentions... Very common. Basically to get over this you just need to connect with the divine consciousness of the universe and let the light of presence shine through your open chakras.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 03:28 PM
35	How do I fuck her like a man, and actually INITIATE stuff? Don't use the girl's orgasm as a form of validation for yourself. If you make her orgasms about you, she'll feel pressured to perform and she'll have a harder time letting loose and actually having one, and she'll fake them just to avoid hurting your ego. You make your enjoyment the priority and let her take care of yourself. As long as you're open to honest communication you should be able to help each other have a good time. Girls generally have a harder time orgasming just from penetration, u…	/r/seduction	19/07/17 03:00 PM
1	Moving to California for girls If you're insecure about your race, or indeed anything else, girls will tool you over it.	/r/seduction	19/07/17 02:44 PM
13	How to detect IOI You most likely asked this question because you're afraid of rejection and you want to avoid that, so you're going to stand around waiting for IOIs before actually doing anything. This is an awful idea and you're being a pussy. If you're afraid of rejection then you're always going to be seeking a reaction, needy, permission-seeking and dependent on outcome. You go up to them, you let them decide if they like you or not. You have to have the balls to approach them and risk being rejected because…	/r/seduction	19/07/17 01:27 PM
1	Manipulation that lead to sex? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVwck2qxcU8	/r/seduction	19/07/17 09:24 AM
1	How to deal with pain-body attacks while learning this? I got the basic tier. Its a video course, no live events included as far as I know. The facebook group is kinda useful. Watch the Julien Happiness Manifesto to get an idea of the content.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 10:46 PM
1	FR monday night bars I disagree, it should be man-to-woman from the very beginning. If you go into an interaction as a fun/friend thing, and then suddenly try to sexually escalate, she might be surprised by that because you're sending mixed signals or hiding your true intentions. Also if she doesn't fancy you, you find out as soon as possible and you don't waste any more time than you have to.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 04:09 PM
2	FR monday night bars So first I said learn how to be happy without women... then you said you didn't want to give up on getting women, I don't know why you'd think I was telling you to give up. Then I said its not about giving up its about not needing it, i.e. not being needy... Then you said how do you stop wanting... So at this point I don't think there's any point in continuing this interaction because either you're being purposefully obtuse or I can't explain it in terms that you can understand. I'd point you in…	/r/seduction	18/07/17 02:39 PM
2	How to deal with pain-body attacks while learning this? Yeah I bought it, I found it very helpful.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 01:53 PM
1	FR monday night bars And I was trying to 'give value' by being self amusing. Also another thing on this that just occured to me... you were "self amusing" so much that you tried the exact same opener on another girl because the first time it got a decent response and you were hoping to repeat that. That's not self amusement, that's clearly seeking a reaction.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 12:04 PM
2	FR monday night bars I didn't say give up. I said stop needing it so badly	/r/seduction	18/07/17 11:33 AM
4	FR monday night bars That's not depression then, you're sad and needy. In which case I can tell you to get a grip without feeling bad about trivialising a mental illness. So get a grip. Learn how to be happy without women. The less you need them the easier you'll get them.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 10:56 AM
5	FR monday night bars Well ideally you should be able to put yourself into the emotional state that you want the girl to be in, so she feels good when she talks to you. I used to be depressed, so I know it's not easy to overcome, but I do know that girls aren't going to get you out of it. Nothing you can find outside of yourself will, your brain will always find some other excuse for why you can't be happy now. And ultimately if you are trying to use girls to make yourself not feel bad then you will always be coming …	/r/seduction	18/07/17 10:29 AM
6	FR monday night bars Are you saying to always open 'direct'? Also, I was direct in the 1st approach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xAlKOTJ8Us And surely it's best to put on a happy facade rather than approach looking depressed? People can tell when you're not being authentic, and it manifests as creepyness.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 09:50 AM
1	So much to chose from on YouTube/internet!? learning snippets of everything but nothing wholly. You won't learn anything wholly until you go out and apply it. Don't end up being an armchair pickup guru like most of the chodes on this board. Personally I like RSD Jeffy, he has a similar sense of humour to me. Just find someone you resonate with and watch their shit... but still fucking go out.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 09:22 AM
8	FR monday night bars In my field reports which I keep in a google document, I try to focus more on my feelings at the time, the vibe that I'm putting out, and try to identify any general mistakes that I made. In what you have written you are reciting the exact words that you and they said, but this is pointless as it does nothing to convey emotional information. Although the quotes are laced with kind of "desperately trying to keep up the happy facade" self-depricating comments which do the job of conveying how you …	/r/seduction	18/07/17 08:53 AM
4	How important is it to actually drink when going to a bar to approach women? Stop inventing problems that don't exist.	/r/seduction	18/07/17 08:05 AM
3	Badly broken, need help. Rushing back to the hands that broke me. You're harming yourself with your crybaby bullshit, and I mean that in the most loving way possible. Tough love though. Also there are safe space subreddits where you can go cry about your problems. You picked this one, a poor choice if you just want a pat on the back. Get a grip, get more girls, get fucked.	/r/seduction	17/07/17 11:11 PM
1	How to deal with pain-body attacks while learning this? I'd recommend RSD Julien's transformation mastery program for this as it's aimed at bringing awareness to and resolving repressed emotional issues. See if this resonates with you	/r/seduction	17/07/17 10:09 PM
1	Badly broken, need help. Rushing back to the hands that broke me. the hands that broke me. How's that victim mentality working out for ya?	/r/seduction	17/07/17 10:07 PM
10	How to resist the temptation to Eject while talking Instead of ejecting, just don't. Stand there and take the awkwardness. Learn to recognize tension as a good thing, learn to withstand social pressure. Train yourself to put up with awkwardness just a little longer than you normally would. Also bear in mind that a conversation has two participants, its not necessarily your job to fill this void, you can use the awkwardness to motivate her to invest, and reward her when she does. Also maybe realise that your discomfort might come from the need for…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 05:00 PM
1	Being Able To Say Whatever You Want - No Filters + 2 Daygame Infield Examples Watching this video makes me realize I have no idea what I'm doing. http://i.imgur.com/kILdnuO.jpg As a newbie you'd be better off following a structure like the London Daygame Model, and shoot for more improv and unfilteredness as you gain experience.	/r/seduction	17/07/17 02:47 PM
3	I'm a good looking loser Notice what you're doing right now. You've found this subreddit, you surely can see all of the resources in the sidebar telling you where to get started, surely you know what you need to actually do... but yet you're here making this thread instead asking your inane question. Making this thread is giving you a sense of accomplishment, while accomplishing absolutely nothing. You're procrastinating, putting off what you know you need to do, and what you need to do is go out and talk to girls. But …	/r/seduction	17/07/17 01:21 PM
2	It's all a numbers game folks. Have you really experienced a guy doing what I said turning off girls that much? That's so crazy if you have. My problem with your advice is that it promotes a mindset of hesitancy, permission-seeking and failing to lead, which as I've said is largely unattractive. Being too timid to escalate is a massive problem for beginners and is not going to be helped by being told that you need to verbally ask for permission to escalate is not helpful. And telling people to say something permission-seeking…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 01:02 PM
1	It's all a numbers game folks. You use the traffic light system. At any stage of escalation, say a kiss for example, a girl can give a positive response (green), a neutral response (amber), or a negative response (red). A positive response would be that she kisses you back. A neutral response might be that she just lets you kiss her but doesn't reciprocate, and a negative response would be that she flinches or withdraws or literally says no. If you receive a negative response you back off immediately. The degree of the negati…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 12:54 PM
3	It's all a numbers game folks. What? I am a woman. I have woman friends. I've seen scenarios like this play out. I've read up on my own psychology and have experience 'in field' with every boyfriend or date I've ever had. Had many conversations with my friend about and seen that play out in real life. The whole of a girl's 20s is spent discussing men with their girlfriends. How could you say I have no experience or understanding in a guy being scared to go in for a kiss? This is just getting ridiculous. Your perspective is fr…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 11:26 AM
3	It's all a numbers game folks. That's not the point. You're claiming that asking a girl to kiss her 1) will sabotage the chance to kiss her and 2) is needy/wet dog material. It's so wrong. Maybe its wrong as far as you're concerned, but this subreddit and pickup isn't about how to seduce you, its about what works with women in general. What did I just read? This is so wrong. Plenty of girls engage sexually with someone out of low self-esteem or a fear of saying no. Never have I ever had a girl friend whose not been coerced in…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 10:44 AM
6	It's all a numbers game folks. In this day and age where you can get jailed if the girl didn't categorically say "yes" to sexual advances, I don't see how it warrants a 'Jesus Christ'. This literally never happens and making guys think that this is a realistic possibility is a cruel shaming tactic employed by deranged ideologues who hate men. The reality is that if a girl doesn't want to kiss you she just won't because women aren't weak or incapable of enforcing their boundaries. And since all female sexuality is based on fee…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 09:55 AM
12	It's all a numbers game folks. A lot of beginners struggle with premature ejectulation, where they'll run away at the first sign that things aren't going well. Your advice isn't going to help with that. You go up to a girl, tap her on the shoulder, she turns around and gives you a skeptical look as if to say "oh great another fucking idiot trying to talk to me", your advice is simply "never try", because she didn't immediately pin you down and sit on your face. True you should know when to quit, but that's not at the first si…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 09:42 AM
8	It's all a numbers game folks. Because being needy, permission-seeking and submissive is the antithesis of what women actually find attractive in a man. "Can I take time to earn it" you ask, like you're just a dog begging for scraps under the table? No. That's fucking terrible advice. Women would literally respond better to a man actually calling her a dog than she would to a man acting like one. I know you're a woman, that doesn't mean you're an authority on what women want, or anything you say is automatically valuable or u…	/r/seduction	17/07/17 09:24 AM
22	It's all a numbers game folks. "its just a numbers game!" "game and techniques are bullshit!" proceeds to give advice about game and techniques	/r/seduction	17/07/17 09:08 AM
6	It's all a numbers game folks. "Argh, I really want to kiss you. Can I kiss you?" "Can I take time to earn it?" Jesus christ. If you ever say anything like this to a woman you might as well just cut your dick off.	/r/seduction	17/07/17 09:04 AM
1	How can you beat the out of your league feeling? https://youtu.be/X45fQ8_81Q8	/r/seduction	17/07/17 01:38 AM
1	How do I do it? Christ... Ask her out IN PERSON next time you see her, and stop fannying around with this Instagram bullshit. Also talk to more girls so you don't end up dedicating so much brain power to something so fucking inane as this again.	/r/seduction	17/07/17 12:37 AM
7	Step by step guide on what to say when you approach including examples I'm all for being yourself, being authentic and letting the cosmic energy of the universe shine out of your ass and all that good RSD stuff, but if you're a beginner overcome with nervousness it does help to have a practical structure to follow. If you're proficient then you can ditch the structure and freestyle rap battle your way through a set if you want to, but beginners can't do that.	/r/seduction	16/07/17 09:13 PM
1	how to find a wingman near me?( louisiana new orleans) I don't know why you think I have the answer to this question. Just join it and find out.	/r/seduction	16/07/17 08:11 PM
1	how to find a wingman near me?( louisiana new orleans) I live in a city of less than 500k people, and have found a group that go out very regularly through the local inner circle. Really depends on the group and the people in it.	/r/seduction	16/07/17 07:54 PM
5	How to know if a girl is giving signs on the dance floor? Or am I just thinking too much? Yes. And now you'll never see her again and will be wondering what might have happened if you'd just tried.	/r/seduction	16/07/17 07:52 PM
3	19M never had a girlfriend,kissed, etc. Need advice Well don't slip into a shitty victim mentality with that "cursed" bullshit, because the only way out is to accept responsibility and take action. Mind you, accepting responsibility for your life doesn't mean beating yourself up over it, that's not constructive. Your life might seem like one big unsolvable mess right now, but its not. Its possible to improve gradually. If you have a problem that is too big to solve, you break it up into smaller problems until you get a problem that you can solve.…	/r/seduction	16/07/17 07:45 PM
1	how to find a wingman near me?( louisiana new orleans) Yeah its not hard to find	/r/seduction	16/07/17 07:30 PM
27	Where do you fuck if neither person can be brought back home? Get a consensual-sex-in-the-missionary-position-purely-for-the-purposes-of-procreation van	/r/seduction	16/07/17 03:53 PM
2	Non-alcohol related night game? Just go out and don't drink. I did it last night, stone cold sober all night. I used to drink but I noticed that I'd get sloppy and miss opportunities and subtlety that I would have picked up otherwise. Helps to have fellow sober wings	/r/seduction	16/07/17 03:10 PM
9	19M never had a girlfriend,kissed, etc. Need advice Do you think that if you lose your virginity you'll suddenly not be depressed anymore and you'll finally be happy? I know that feeling. But after you fuck a girl nothing really changes. Also 16-17 year olds are usually full of shit and tell stories to mask their insecurity. Getting out of depression is not really something that girls will help you to do. It's a world of bullshit, shit-tests and drama. Finding happiness comes from within yourself, not by achieving or acquiring things outside of y…	/r/seduction	16/07/17 02:59 PM
1	how to find a wingman near me?( louisiana new orleans) There's RSD inner circle Facebook groups for most metropolitan areas in the developed world. Even if you're not massively into RSD it's still good for finding wings. Just search and join. They're private groups so your normie friends won't be able to see you joining or posting there.	/r/seduction	16/07/17 02:49 PM
9	Best teqnique to go for the kiss? Put your face close to her face and see if she's okay with it. An Eskimo kiss can be a good way to test the waters before going for an actual kiss. If she flinches then back off. Backing off is the right thing to do, and it'll make her like you more because she can see that you respect her boundaries and are not a complete fucking idiot who can't read social cues. Then try again later. Generally you do this at every stage of escalation. Generally if you get the impression that a girl might want …	/r/seduction	13/02/17 12:42 AM
1	To Grow As A Person And In Pickup - You Need To Confront Whatever It Is You Fear The Most Fear is usually worse in your head than the actual consequences of whatever it is you're doing. And the more you dwell on the fear the more it grows.	/r/seduction	13/02/17 12:24 AM
1	How to deal with being called creepy? Also how to not be phased by it? It is impossible for any man to show sexual interest in women without at some stage being considered creepy by someone. Because "creepy" is a meaningless subjective term that women use to describe someone who makes them feel uncomfortable. That's okay. Would you rather be creepy while staring across the bar like a starving wolf at a woman that you're too afraid to approach, or would you rather be creepy in pursuit of self-improvement, emotional growth and having sex? That's your choice. Accept a…	/r/seduction	06/02/17 07:06 PM
2	What is a good first message to send? I don't think I mentioned bars or weekends at all in my post. You can talk to girls anywhere, in fact it can be easier to talk to girls. In your case try a bookshop, your campus, or do something on a regular basis that you enjoy that gets you out of the house and puts you in an environment where these girls would hang out.	/r/seduction	17/09/15 09:41 PM
-9	Post the best habits a man can take to become more attractive. And a lot of girls do, more than you would think because you're not used to it. Oh boy, the old 'you disagree with me so you must be a kissless virgin who doesn't know how the world works.' angle. Brutal. I'm aware that there are guys and girls with low self esteem who use sex as a form of validation. I'm happy for them to hook up with each other but I'm not interested in having that kind of person in my life. You and I have different goals.	/r/seduction	02/09/15 05:34 PM
0	Post the best habits a man can take to become more attractive. Girls find dozens of guys attractive every day, they don't hook up with them all, not even a fraction of them.	/r/seduction	02/09/15 05:04 PM
10	Post the best habits a man can take to become more attractive. Most of the advice that comes out of pickup is aimed at 'becoming more attractive'. Guys who do pickup seem to have this obsessive insecure preoccupation with their attractiveness, and yet a girl isn't going to hook up with a guy just because she finds him attractive. In terms of attraction you just have to not be a disgusting unhygenic piece of shit. Get a haircut, shave your neckbeard, don't wear stupid clothes or accessories. In terms of fitness you don't have to have huge muscles, you just h…	/r/seduction	02/09/15 01:43 PM
1	Looking for suggestions on advanced level books Well, aren't there areas you have identified for yourself that you're weak on, or that you have problems with? Why not seek out learning material related to those particular areas? Extend your search wider than just books aimed at the 'pickup' community	/r/seduction	02/09/15 01:10 PM
1	Looking for suggestions on advanced level books Why do you want this?	/r/seduction	02/09/15 12:44 PM
0	How would you reply if a girl sent you deep clevage pics on Snapchat? It's not being a dick. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will feed himself for the rest of his life. When you come here asking "what should I say in this specific situation?" you're asking someone else to basically give you a fish. You're not learning anything of value, because you're not going to be able to say that every time. Giving yourself permission to say what you want to say is key to becoming good at all kinds of interactions. If you're not saying w…	/r/seduction	01/09/15 11:06 PM
-12	How would you reply if a girl sent you deep clevage pics on Snapchat? but by really having no idea how to play it Just fucking say what you want to say! Holy shit. Get out of your head and stop trying to strategize the best way to win the 'game'. Its called: 'expressing your thoughts and feelings' - its something you're going to need to learn to do unless you plan to put interactions on hold and start a thread on Reddit every time you don't have a 'play' in mind for the particular situation you find yourself in.	/r/seduction	01/09/15 07:48 PM
23	How to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce approach anxiety and that awkward feeling when talking to girls [Serious] This is pretty pointless. If you're doing this then you don't need to reduce approach anxiety, you're already acting in spite of your anxiety. If you're going to stand around being an awkward creep you may as well do something more proactive than just stand there, you might as well actually hit on some girls. There's nothing wrong with being nervous. Singers go on stage and they're nervous every time, but they can still sing, and you can still talk and flirt. Stop trying to fight it or hide it, …	/r/seduction	01/09/15 07:36 PM
1	Have you ever chosen to be in the friend zone? Personally, I don't think that women make very good friends, you're a guy, you need to connect with other guys. Find some kind of social hobbies and make friends through them.	/r/seduction	01/09/15 06:37 PM
7	Have you ever chosen to be in the friend zone? Does every guy think they're entitled to hook up with every girl they connect with or they can GTFO? Its not about entitlement, it's about fear. A guy who is not very good with girls meets a girl that he likes. He's afraid to actually make any overt moves or express his sexuality towards her for whatever reason... so instead of actually asking a girl out he just kind of hangs around and gets to know her, somehow thinking that he's going to ~friendship~ his way into her pants. Or its going to be …	/r/seduction	01/09/15 06:33 PM
1	I have a serious case of oneitis right now? Go out with her.	/r/seduction	01/09/15 06:27 PM
0	mission to leave friendzone From what you've said it doesn't sound like much of a mission as she sounds interested. Go for it. Probably shouldn't practice kino on your cousin though... that's fucking weird.	/r/seduction	01/09/15 06:26 PM
3	Depressed due to lack of success/drive for pickup. No, it's not. But I imagine her and her friends laughing if i crash and burn, telling all her guy friends i'm a creep. This is a symptom of you being entirely dependent on women for validation. If you fail to get that validation you fear that the worst will happen and you'll be ostracised from society forever. It's not going to happen. If you had self esteem and you hit on a girl, and she responded in the way that you just described, personally I would not count that as a failure. The person you…	/r/seduction	01/09/15 10:40 AM
3	Depressed due to lack of success/drive for pickup. I live in a town of 120,000 people in the north of England Hey me too. Everyone on a night out knows everyone, and i feel if i were to approach a woman, she would know that i'm just trying to get in her pants. Is that a bad thing? Are you ashamed of your desires? Do you feel that you are unworthy of having your needs met or that you don't deserve a normal adult relationship? If you go up to a girl being ashamed of your own intentions then you're pretty much guaranteeing that she'll react negativ…	/r/seduction	31/08/15 09:48 PM
2	How to let her know it's a date before meeting. Be clear with your intent "Hey, I like you, lets go out on a date". If she says no then at least you know where you stand. Either she's interested or she's not, and no amount of pussyfooting around with the phraseology is going to make a difference	/r/seduction	30/08/15 07:37 AM
0	DO girls tend to approach taller or shorter guys?(read more below) All that karma will be lost, in downvotes... like, tears... in... rain.	/r/seduction	29/08/15 02:19 PM
4	The ONE thing holding me back is lack of escalation technique or skill. OP is asking for examples of what to do and say. Someone provided a list. I'm sure if he tries to consciously shoehorn those things into his interactions it'll come across as weird, because body language is very hard to control consciously, especially if what you're doing is not congruent with what you're feeling. He says he's decent at having conversations with girls and can consistently get responses and numbers, so I assumed that he's not a complete autist and isn't just memorizing a bunch of…	/r/seduction	29/08/15 12:35 PM
-1	The ONE thing holding me back is lack of escalation technique or skill. And yet someone already provided a list in response to the question.	/r/seduction	29/08/15 12:17 PM
-6	DO girls tend to approach taller or shorter guys?(read more below) Your question is dumb and you should feel bad. Or stop feeling bad or insecure about your height. But feel bad because your question was dumb.	/r/seduction	29/08/15 09:59 AM
2	What you did to overcome non-american accent ? First step learn how to use Google	/r/seduction	29/08/15 09:22 AM
-6	The ONE thing holding me back is lack of escalation technique or skill. When you have a conversation with someone do you just recite lines that you memorized too?	/r/seduction	29/08/15 02:31 AM
2	Anxiety? Now hear me out. I'm working on fixing it but wondering what it might be the cause for. I always tried to see women in a platonic view, not, holy shit, that ass or tits. Been raised as a white knight and that shit ain't quite right. https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf Try reading the first few pages of that, and if it strikes a chord, read the rest, particularly the parts about where you're ashamed of your sexuality.	/r/seduction	29/08/15 12:28 AM
1	Still having trouble stirring conversation. I tend to post this video a lot because its good at explaining how to do conversation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI	/r/seduction	29/08/15 12:19 AM
1	RSD Best videos? Yeah I thought that was good. Its a shame that Tyler looked like a troll doll when he made it.	/r/seduction	29/08/15 12:17 AM
1	Online Game. Im fucking confused. What gives? And what am I doing wrong? You're doing online dating. You're choosing to directly compete with every guy who is afraid to approach a girl in real life. Your messages and your profile are buried under 50 other messages and profiles. And of course if you do manage to get the attention of a girl you are still just some text on a screen to her and she could stop talking to you at any moment. So stick to talking to girls in real life. Online dating is a game that is not set up in your fa…	/r/seduction	28/08/15 07:20 AM
1	What do you guys think about Vadim? Who?	/r/seduction	28/08/15 04:36 AM
3	Is tinder good at gauging attractiveness? It's destroying me but I haven't deleted it for one reason.... If you think they'll find you unattractive then they probably will. Plus if you're depending on them to find you attractive, and you seek validation and approval in this way, then they're also probably not going to be into you. Because seeking approval and validation outside of yourself is a display of low confidence, and confidence is far more important for your attractiveness than anything else.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 04:07 PM
3	Is tinder good at gauging attractiveness? It's destroying me but I haven't deleted it for one reason.... I simply don't have the confidence and skillset to approach women in real life so of course I use tinder. Of course. I mean, why grow as a person? Why try to better yourself or overcome a problem in your life that is making you miserable. Why bother being uncomfortable and scared as you grow and try new things when you can just hide behind your keyboard and indugle in the fantasy of meeting a great girl through online dating? Have not gotten a SINGLE date off it this summer, Yeah, because every …	/r/seduction	27/08/15 03:48 PM
1	Tips on Inviting Women Home but I noticed I phrased the invite atrociously - and I'm surprised she even accepted with no resistance. Which should indicate that it doesn't matter a whole lot how you phrase it. A simple "do you want to come back to my place" is fine.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 03:00 PM
3	Need advice on how to make conversations more "fun" That's generally what this whole 'seduction' thing is about.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 02:58 PM
1	In the interest of expanding my mind, Ive been reading up on Camus lately. Here's a couple of quotes I thought you guys might like. Thanks for the platitudes, I guess.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 12:28 PM
5	Need advice on how to make conversations more "fun" I know you're probably concerned that girls say "I want a guy who makes me laugh", when girls say that they don't mean that they want a guy who tells jokes. When a girl likes a guy and there's a lot of sexual tension then she'll laugh to release that tension even if what you're saying isn't funny. That's what she wants when she says "a guy who makes me laugh". So instead of trying to make conversations more 'fun' by telling jokes, make them more fun by increasing sexual tension.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 12:25 PM
1	I'm a fucking joke. And I want to change. I would like to even just come remotely close to have some serious relationship with a girl before the end of highschool. This is not going to happen because desperation is very unattractive, and you seem to want a girlfriend just as a form of validation. Seeking validation and approval outside of yourself is probably one of the reasons you're so unsuccessful. This thread has some okay advice. Lift and read books, but also try to stop hating yourself.	/r/seduction	27/08/15 12:13 PM
4	How not stop gaming after you get a girlfriend? I wasn't even joking, everything you said indicates that you have serious unresolved issues. Guys who come here often start off unable to get girls for whatever reason, maybe they're submissive, passive, 'beta', or whatever. So they turn to pickup, read a few books, approach a few girls and they undergo a transformation. they have some fun and eventually they find a girl that they like. Then they get what you're afraid of, they 'go beta again', they go back to being doormats, and they lose the g…	/r/seduction	27/08/15 12:08 PM
7	How not stop gaming after you get a girlfriend? Any advices guys? How about seeing a therapist?	/r/seduction	27/08/15 11:36 AM
1	Help with openers/keeping a conversation going I missed a character off the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI	/r/seduction	27/08/15 10:39 AM
3	Got this message from a female friend. I fucking love you guys Its really great when someone you've known for a long time notices a positive change in you.	/r/seduction	26/08/15 08:42 PM
-4	Got this message from a female friend. I fucking love you guys I just browsed through the threads on that sub again today. Absolutely toxic.	/r/seduction	26/08/15 08:38 PM
1	Help with openers/keeping a conversation going Really? So when someone says "it's not what you say, it's how you say it", that is great advice, but when I say, "What you say matters a great deal", that is useless? Who said "it's not what you say, it's how you say it"? I didn't. You're maintaining that what you say is super important in a conversation, but you haven't given any examples or elaborated on your point. So what should people say to become better at conversation? In the excerpt you provided, Dale Carnegie gives specific examples of…	/r/seduction	26/08/15 07:01 PM
1	Help with openers/keeping a conversation going I said that the key to good conversation and charisma was in listening to others. There are plenty of places that validate this, the video I linked elsewhere in the thread, and I mention Dale Carnegie because I remember reading so in How to Win Friends and Influence People. Here's an excerpt from the chapter that I was thinking of If you have any good advice I'll happily listen to it, but just posting 'What you say matters a great deal' and then not elaborating at all is pretty useless.	/r/seduction	26/08/15 05:06 PM
1	Help with openers/keeping a conversation going It really doesn't matter what you say. Good conversation is more about listening to and validating others through your interest in what they have to say. This advice is repeated in practically every credible source on how to hold a conversation, right back to Dale Carnegie. People can tell when you're just waiting for your turn to talk. Presence, paying attention and listening, giving someone your full attention are very powerful. Disappearing up into your own head trying to think of something f…	/r/seduction	26/08/15 07:24 AM
1	Help with openers/keeping a conversation going https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQ This is a good video, I recommend watching it.	/r/seduction	26/08/15 07:11 AM
3	How to talk to someone with very few common interests? Conversation doesn't depend on common interests, it just depends on interest. You get them to talk about what they're passionate about, and you give them the validation of being interested in what they're saying. This might help explain.	/r/seduction	26/08/15 06:13 AM
1	Proof that women prefer clowns over anything else What is truly amazing, is that this guy seduces women that are well out of his league (usually 7's). If you think that girls are out of your league, then they are, because you're putting them on a pedistal. Also your main point is that he's funny, I don't think you have any idea what it is about him that girls like. It could be any number of things. Plus when girls say 'I want a guy who makes me laugh', that doesn't mean that they want a clown. Girls laugh to release tension, even when what you'…	/r/seduction	26/08/15 05:45 AM
7	Just deleted all my /amiugly and /rateme posts. I'm done with negativity, and as I am turning 21 and headed back to Uni in a week I want to get my confidence/lady problems sorted out. but I chalk it up to being in an all boys school for the entirety of elementary and high school, which probably fucked me up a little - I literally went years without speaking to even a single girl. Read this Anyways, I just wanted to come here for some definitive opinions on what I can do to adopt a more positive mindset on what people think of me. Ideally you should adopt the mindset that it doesn't really matter what people think of you. Become comfortable with the idea that some people aren'…	/r/seduction	25/08/15 02:05 PM
5	Update: First date ever last night Good job, buddy.	/r/seduction	25/08/15 01:40 PM
-1	How The Daygame Model Will Destroy You Good post.	/r/seduction	25/08/15 01:39 PM
6	Library Game? "Ay gurl, if you were a library book I'd check you out!" "Do you have any overdue books? Because you've got FINE written all over you!" Be sure to shout them from the other side of the library. Or just go up and say hi and tell them that they're cute, that's usually appropriate for most settings.	/r/seduction	25/08/15 06:07 AM
3	How to continue escalation after the initial snag sidebar	/r/seduction	25/08/15 03:09 AM
6	How to continue escalation after the initial snag People write books trying to answer the question you've just asked.	/r/seduction	24/08/15 10:03 PM
2	How do you count and log your approaches? Keep a diary if you want. But personally I wouldn't bother keeping count.	/r/seduction	24/08/15 06:19 PM
2	Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything. When its said that nice guys are dishonest, that's not the same as accusing them of having 'an evil manipulative scheme'. Its possible to behave in a way and not realizing how or why you're behaving the way you are. That's why its a long hard process to overcome these issues and you can't just slap a thin veneer of game on top it all and call it a day. All the dishonesty and manipulation NMMNG and models accuse nice guys of, can also be turned towards women (and any other man that change behavio…	/r/seduction	24/08/15 02:59 AM
1	Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything. I'd agree that /r/seduction can lead you into the same loop if you're not careful. But people are social animals and the company that you keep will affect you, that includes the things that you read and the websites that you visit. There's a difference between focusing on your problems and trying to fix them, and letting your brain marinade in a piss-mist of negativity and bitterness like TRP. There aren't any rants about how women are evil here, or in many other places where you could go to act…	/r/seduction	24/08/15 02:02 AM
6	Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything. No More Mr Niceguy details how niceguys are very dishonest and passive, and attributes their lack of happiness to their inability to take direct action to get their needs met, because they're ashamed of having needs due to various reasons. It's not about 'being nice'. I don't think its about 'being too nice' at all. You don't get punished for being too nice, you get punished for being dishonest, if niceness is the means by which you are being dishonest that still doesn't mean that you're being p…	/r/seduction	23/08/15 11:54 PM
7	Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything. tips fedora	/r/seduction	23/08/15 11:24 PM
5	How can I start sexual conversations? Watch these videos. The second one answers your question, but it references some ideas that are explained in the first one, which is also good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuvL7Dk8x8s	/r/seduction	23/08/15 11:05 PM
20	Don't have confidence? Your body sells you out. Even so, you can fix it if you know what to look for. Studying bodylanguage can be good to increase your social awareness, since most communication between two people is non-verbal, knowing how to read bodylanguage is a must. But beyond actively policing for bad habits, I don't think you should put too much thought into your body language. There's too much body language for you to consciously control. If you want to be charismatic you need to get out of your head and become present, and actively pay attention to what is happening right in front of …	/r/seduction	23/08/15 11:03 PM
42	Finally unsubbing from /r/seduction - thank you for everything. That's basically what it is. A bunch of people who have all these insecurities and emotional issues, but instead of dealing with them they wrap them up in a shitty philosophy. Use evopsyche to explain why 50% of the human race are basically your enemy and can't be trusted. But also rearrange your entire life around making yourself as 'alpha' as you can, raising your SMV (sexual market value) to be as high as possible, and learn how to use psychological tactics to trick that untrustworthy 50% of …	/r/seduction	23/08/15 07:54 PM
2	Have trouble with tinder. There's a chrome extension that swipes right on every woman in your local area. Or you could just drop the crutch and talk to girls in real life.	/r/seduction	23/08/15 12:53 PM
2	Need help closing! Touch and kiss her, and keep doing that more unless she tells you to stop, and then take her clothes off and put your wee-wee in her hoo-ha (with a rubber). If you want a more helpful answer then you might want to elaborate on the problem that you're having.	/r/seduction	22/08/15 03:13 PM
0	Went out Well... One step at a time I guess.	/r/seduction	22/08/15 03:07 PM
2	4 years later with new results? You talk about friendzoning as if its something a girl purposefully does to guys that she doesn't like. A guy gets friendzoned when he's too timid to actually make any moves or risk outright rejection. He somehow thinks that he can have a cordial risk-free friendly conversation with a girl and she'll just magically want to jump on him. No, you have to flirt, show interest, be willing to do something that might result in rejection, i.e. be honest and act in alignment with your intentions. A girl …	/r/seduction	22/08/15 03:03 PM
2	Sexualize a conversation when virgin. I'm not telling you to lie or pretend to be something that you're not. You just don't have to offer up full disclosure on everything that you're ashamed about in your life to everyone who asks.	/r/seduction	22/08/15 12:43 AM
2	Sexualize a conversation when virgin. I don't think it does.	/r/seduction	21/08/15 04:46 PM
16	Sexualize a conversation when virgin. Yeah this is called shame, and its one of the worst feelings you can experience. Obviously your shame about sex and lack thereof is preventing you making any progress. There's a practice called mindfulness, practised in meditation. The idea is that all problems you have come from thinking about the past and the future. If you recognize that the past and the future aren't real, and they only exist as concepts in your own mind, you can choose to stop letting those problems have power over you by f…	/r/seduction	21/08/15 02:16 PM
0	Is there anyone else like me ? Virgin in late twenties? I need some practical advise and foolproof plan to get laid before 30. Any help ? Hire a hooker. That's the only way you're going to do it if you're going to impose arbitrary time limits on yourself. Desperation isn't attractive, and if you set a time-sensitive goal like this then you're going to fuck yourself up. Girls come easiest when they're not the most important thing in your life.	/r/seduction	21/08/15 02:11 PM
1	How people give seduction advice How people give bad advice.	/r/seduction	21/08/15 01:33 PM
3	What advice can you give a 26 year old virgin I used to have shitty social skills, and I highly recommend reading How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. A lot of the advice in that book is also echoed in this talk which is worth watching. Also read the Definitive Book of Body Language by Alan and Barbera Pease. Something like 70% of communication is non-verbal, if you improve your ability to read body language you will vastly improve your social awareness. One of the main components of charisma is presence and the ability…	/r/seduction	21/08/15 12:32 AM
9	As a girl who's been on countless dates - great things guys have done to pick me up, and a few notes on when I've picked up girls. This isn't really seduction crap to be honest. Or it is kinda, but its not the kind I typically like. If some idiot were to come here and read the OP's post, and took it at face value and interpret it as a set of superficial behaviours that they should adopt in order to give the illusion of confidence... Can you imagine someone reading this, going out on a date and thinking "uh shit I have to flirt with the waitress in order to make it appear that I'm comfortable with women" - the most likely re…	/r/seduction	21/08/15 12:11 AM
1	Tips for 1 on 1 conversation? Cool, I didn't have to post it this time	/r/seduction	17/08/15 11:11 PM
16	Best way to respond to rejection? Usually the boyfriend card is bullsh*t. Whether its bullshit or not, its usually a sign of a lack of interest. Its up to you if you want to spend time and effort bringing her around when you could just get more return on your effort if you spent it on a girl who actually is receptive to you. If she has a boyfriend and she is receptive to you, she won't mention him.	/r/seduction	17/08/15 04:21 PM
1	Is "The Game" by Neil Strauss a good book? You really should form your own opinions on things	/r/seduction	17/08/15 11:17 AM
2	Conflicted About Ethical Issues.. can someone think straight for me? If you committed to a girl that you don't want to commit to for the sake of pleasing her, then obviously that is not going to make you happy, and your happiness should be of the highest priority in your decision making. You can be 'emotionally available' without committing to anything, and you don't have to treat girls like shit. Just be honest with yourself and them, set your boundaries and enforce them. And yes its completely natural and normal for a girl to be emotional, and to become attache…	/r/seduction	16/08/15 11:33 PM
1	[KC] Simplest yet most effective way to kiss a girl (dumb as fuck) Well I wish you the best of luck thinking your way into a fulfilling lovelife.	/r/seduction	15/08/15 10:42 PM
3	[KC] Simplest yet most effective way to kiss a girl (dumb as fuck) http://i.imgur.com/Nfs6ipd.jpg	/r/seduction	15/08/15 10:31 PM
25	[KC] Simplest yet most effective way to kiss a girl (dumb as fuck) This is awful advice. Giving someone an itemized check-list for kissing and expecting them to follow it is the best way to ensure that they never get to kiss a girl again. Things like kissing and sex happen because you're paying attention to the present moment and you're acting in accordance with your current feelings. Not because you're following a mental check-list of the correct robotic instruction sequence required to initiate the kiss procedure. The moment you disappear up into your head to…	/r/seduction	15/08/15 09:05 PM
2	How to overcome my fear of approaching Its polarizing, either they're receptive or they're not, and you find out immediately. Its not intimidating unless you're being aggressive, and you don't have to do that. Its a strong display of confidence because it shows that you're not afraid of being judged. Even if you're visibly nervous when you approach its still a better display of confidence, and she can tell that you're genuine because there's no incongruence between your emotional state and your actions. On the other hand if you are n…	/r/seduction	15/08/15 06:23 PM
1	How to overcome my fear of approaching If you believe that your intentions are bad, then so will she. If you can't bear the thought of just going up to a girl and saying something simple like "hi, my name is X and I thought you were really cute and I wanted to talk to you" - then you have issues. Feeling ashamed of your own needs and sexuality, feeling the need to cloak every approach in a thin veil of plausible deniability just to make yourself feel less horrible while you approach... that's all you, it has nothing to do with her. G…	/r/seduction	15/08/15 05:29 PM
1	How to overcome my fear of approaching I don't think it counts as rejection if you're too scared to actually let her think that you are interested in her.	/r/seduction	15/08/15 10:20 AM
13	30 years of loneliness Why have I become so pathetic that no woman likes me ? I hate myself. There's the answer. I did every possible thing in my control from reading books to approaching Have you read this? https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf	/r/seduction	15/08/15 09:28 AM
4	Decided to actually APPROACH women at the club today- I can honestly say that at this point I have absolutely NO idea what is so wrong with me. looking at myself in the mirror to see if I truly am as ugly as women perceive me to be You're a dumbass. You think this is about looks when its clearly about your crippling lack of self esteem. Imagine you're walking along the street, and a beggar comes up to you with a paper cup asking for spare change. You throw some change in his cup... You probably did that mostly to get rid of him, because you, me, and everyone else, are repulsed by people who come and try to take value from us while offer…	/r/seduction	15/08/15 09:23 AM
2	How to overcome my fear of approaching If you're waiting for the fear to go away, you're going to be waiting for a long time. You have to do things that you're afraid of doing. You have to choose between comfort and growth. You have to choose between your fear of rejection and the regret of never having tried.	/r/seduction	15/08/15 09:11 AM
1	How to overcome my fear of approaching she'll automatically lower her guard as she will assume you probably aren't trying to get into her pants. And you probably won't get in her pants.	/r/seduction	15/08/15 09:09 AM
1	Almost got a girls number today...thanks seddit Personally I think its shitty to 'befriend' someone only because you secretly want to use them to gain access to their social circle, while having no real interest in them. Plus why would you bother expending that effort when you can approach any girl you want anyway?	/r/seduction	15/08/15 06:31 AM
1	Frustrated with my role as a man? Has a woman ever swept you off your feet? You're still viewing it as a means to an end, which is wrong. Plus you appear to be stuck trying to intellectualize the problem. This is about feelings, and in the context of feelings, cold terminology such as "the human biological mating ritual" has no place. Seduction is an emotional process, social interaction is an emotional process. You can't intellectualize it or argue that parts of it are unnecessary and you should just be allowed to skip straight to sex... You can do that, but its called…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 05:37 PM
3	Almost got a girls number today...thanks seddit Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI	/r/seduction	14/08/15 04:57 PM
1	Frustrated with my role as a man? Has a woman ever swept you off your feet? Why isn't it fun? Do you have some kind of shame about expressing your sexuality?	/r/seduction	14/08/15 04:50 PM
1	Almost got a girls number today...thanks seddit I don't think you almost succeeded in getting her number there buddy... but you had 100% more chance of succeeding than you would have if you hadn't even tried. So well done I guess. As a general tip, getting a number is pointless if you don't feel as though the initial interaction was going too well, since she's definitely not going to respond. Also "Is that stopping us from being friends?" Don't do this to yourself. Be clear with your intentions and stick to them. Don't try to settle for a 'co…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 04:47 PM
3	How to open sets at the beach?Tons of hot chicks there,need ideas "We should look like we're having fun at the beach so that we'll be attractive to girls!" Or... how about... "We should have fun at the beach!" Intent is everything. If you're trying to manufacture fun in order to be perceived as attractive, then you're making yourself completely dependent on girls validating you by paying attention to you, and that is not attractive at all. If you want to hit on girls at the beach, go hit on them. It's very straightforward. "Hi my name is X, I thought you were …	/r/seduction	14/08/15 04:24 PM
1	Frustrated with my role as a man? Has a woman ever swept you off your feet? Well the biggest thing that helped me when developing my social skills was to learn to see every interaction as being its own reward. Think of the last time you were approached by a salesman, and you could tell that he was only talking to you because he wanted to peddle some shit to you. Whether or not you may have wanted to buy that shit, you're not going to react too warmly to him. That's how people feel about you if you treat interaction as a means to an end, you want to extract something fro…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 04:09 PM
3	Dating coach A therapist might be better value for money.	/r/seduction	14/08/15 02:32 PM
15	How to open sets at the beach?Tons of hot chicks there,need ideas Say hi. Why are you making this complicated?	/r/seduction	14/08/15 02:07 PM
1	Frustrated with my role as a man? Has a woman ever swept you off your feet? I always feel like I have to have excellent conversation skills on those first couple of dates and be able to keep the ball rolling You don't have excellent conversation skills if you're putting effort into keeping the interaction going, that's a sign that you are bad at conversation. A good conversationalist will find the topics that the other person really enjoys talking about, and then will make them feel good by giving them full and genuine interest and attention while they talk. You don't h…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 08:08 AM
2	Question- How do you express interest in a particular woman amongst a group when you are out without acting differently than normal? Maybe the problem is that you're 'cruising around', 'being friendly', not making any moves. Fuck off with this shit. Its very simple. Go to the girl that you're interested in, fucking ask her out. If she says yes, then go out with her. If not then go out with someone else. Honest and direct, nobody can fault you for that. And er, yeah.. I wouldn't worry too much about alienating all the girls by sleeping with too many of them... Casanova. How about focusing on the task of sleeping with the one y…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 07:54 AM
1	How can I love myself fully? For example, when I see a cute girl checking me out then I feel good about myself but when I don't get checked out then I feel bad about myself. The reason why I want to love myself more is because I "chase" woman and a relationship so I can feel good about myself. Lately I have been going through a lot of insecurities because I've been rejected by girls who I find attractive and my self image gets low. Yes... The reason you keep getting rejected is the same reason you're pursuing girls: you wan…	/r/seduction	14/08/15 07:37 AM
2	How to appear interested but also unavailable? Fucks sake dude. Do you want to go out with her or do you want to play shitty mindgames? Sometimes people are busy. You're not making yourself more attractive by appearing to be busy when you're not.	/r/seduction	14/08/15 06:48 AM
14	Well everyone...after months of ranting here about how women aren't attracted to me, yesterday I made the decision to just start approaching.... tl;dr Finally know how to approach - how can I keep a convo going without a woman simply walking away? I post this video a lot, it answers your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI	/r/seduction	13/08/15 02:44 PM
1	Does cold approach ever get easier? I ask because I was pretty useless, I didn't have anything witty to say, or come across as super smooth, my heart was racing too fast, its ridiculous how difficult this is for me... But hey! I gave out my number... :p Firstly you're not meant to give out your number, you're meant to get theirs. Giving out your number and waiting for girls to call is not a winning tactic. Secondly you don't have to say anything witty, you don't have to come across as super smooth. Thinking that you do is probably…	/r/seduction	13/08/15 09:40 AM
0	The Beauty Pedestal: Examination, Deconstruction, and Life Post-Pedestalization That sure is a lot of words to convey nothing of insight or use. This is why I hate the red pill. People take their emotional issues and shitty experiences, wrap them in endless walls of text, conclude that everyone except themselves is to blame for their inability to connect with women, and the state of their un-fulfilling love life. Then the prescription of course, is to build a shitty superficial facade of disinterest and scarcity, in order to generate 'value', so that girls will find you att…	/r/seduction	13/08/15 03:01 AM
3	[FR] Too many FRs get posted WITHOUT the content that is the most important. Latin Night this past Sunday. While I don't really like the old PUA jargon and buzzwords, or the robotic approach to interaction that it often seems to go with, but I guess your account of the interaction is better than most that I see here. One thing I do want to point out to you though: At this point I have her smiling and laughing, we've been talking for less than 2 minutes and she's throwing out TONS of IOIs already simply because I'm making her laugh. You have to understand that when women say that they want a man who m…	/r/seduction	12/08/15 03:58 AM
6	How do I send a good first message on online dating? The trick here is standing out, But how do you do that? I can tell you right now "Hi there, how are you" is going to get you absolutely nowhere. And yet it will work if you just say that to a girl in real life. Funny that Honestly, online dating is an entire world of bullshit in my opinion. Guys are trading away their most powerful assets (i.e. their personalities and social skills) in exchange for the convenience and comfort of not having to be nervous approaching girls because they're safe beh…	/r/seduction	11/08/15 08:34 PM
4	I've been reading this subreddit as a bisexual girl [F/23] with around 60 sexual partners...and y'all totally changed the game for me. Thank you. I don't particularly think that a drive for promiscuity is a healthy thing, in men or women, or at least that's what I've observed in my interactions, and what I've noticed in myself. There are definitely people who are motivated towards promiscuity tend to have some kind of issues. I know that's true for myself when I was motivated to fuck everything that moved, it was definitely coming from a need for validation. Last time I was with a 'promiscuous girl', she ended up telling me some pretty sa…	/r/seduction	11/08/15 06:52 PM
1	The more you cold approach, the less likely you are to have a REAL group of friends? Yes. But not just one hobby.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 09:34 PM
2	Best way to learn how to kiss? I don't know why everyone thinks that girls somehow magically know how to kiss well. They don't. In general just keep the following in mind Keep salava to a minumum, and stay on her lips. Don't drool all over her face Don't pin her head to anything, give her room to back out. Let your hands wander, lower back and ass if she's okay with that. You're not having sex you're kissing, retain your composure and control, preferably withdraw from the kiss before she does. Also kissing is like conversatio…	/r/seduction	10/08/15 09:11 PM
1	The more you cold approach, the less likely you are to have a REAL group of friends? Cultivate a personality?	/r/seduction	10/08/15 08:59 PM
1	If I were a shaman Update as to whether she texts you back or goes out with you.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 06:09 PM
3	I am a lonely Virgin and I can't see my luck turning anytime soon. Welp, either you decide to fix your shit or you don't.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 04:25 PM
1	How do I create challenge and make her chase me ? Steal someone's wifi :)	/r/seduction	10/08/15 04:07 PM
3	The girls that get hit on the most Alot of guys complain about being friendzoned, because they only go after these type of girls. One way to avoid getting friendzoned is to not exclusivley talk about bro subjects. A guy gets 'friendzoned' when he is too much of a bitch to actually show any overt interest in a girl because he's afraid of rejection or ashamed of his own sexuality to the point of being paralyzed. Instead just engages her in cordial conversation about a mutual interest and, shockingly, she responds by being friendly …	/r/seduction	10/08/15 01:42 PM
1	The more you cold approach, the less likely you are to have a REAL group of friends? I've found that people who define themselves so narrowly that they only really have one thing going on in their life tend to be kind of annoying to hang out with. Doesn't matter if its Pickup, Star Trek, Harry Potter fanfiction or whatever. Only being able to relate to people who share your one particular hobby isn't a good thing.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 01:31 PM
5	Give me some playful teasing examples and negging Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a lifetime. Learn how to socially interact with people, instead of starting a thread in the hopes that you will amass a pile of fish.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 01:26 PM
2	Just turned 20. Never got any women attention (looks, smiles, etc.). Are surgeries worth it? I found this website ( s**thate .com) which gave me the red pill. I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD AND ACCEPT THAT I AM UGLY. Maybe you're just retarded. While you're getting surgery I suggest also having a vagina installed.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 01:26 PM
8	How do I create challenge and make her chase me ? Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI I post this video a lot because apparently nobody on this sub knows how to hold a conversation.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 04:23 AM
3	In one line, what women want.... Is this supposed to be profound, insightful or useful in any way? Because it isn't.	/r/seduction	10/08/15 04:20 AM
6	Introverted dudes, old virgins, hope I can say something helpful The poster is literally apparently the only person not preaching a rape-positive culture of pushing yourself on them anyway. lol 'rape-positive culture', fuck off dude. Touching a girl's ass is not 'rape', just like if she turns around and slaps you for it, that's not 'murder'. I'm not going to get a signed document of consent to do anything remotely sexual with a girl. Explicitly asking a girl for permission to do anything will kill any sexual tension that there might have been and is a display…	/r/seduction	10/08/15 02:14 AM
1	Introverted dudes, old virgins, hope I can say something helpful Well now I have to watch that movie again	/r/seduction	09/08/15 10:01 PM
5	Introverted dudes, old virgins, hope I can say something helpful One big thing with pickup is the feeling of being a creep fucking sucks. It does. Most girls have a hard time with being direct, so sometimes they might lie or fake being nice but they're just nervous and that feels shitty. So one of the ways to minimize this feeling is to provide girls with an easy out of the conversation. If they're hesitant, move on to a girl that's receptive. If they got an easy out and they still stay, it's smooth sailing and you don't feel bad, that simple. I disagree some…	/r/seduction	09/08/15 09:57 PM
1	Introverted dudes, old virgins, hope I can say something helpful You should read/watch them and make up your own mind.. My view is that Mystery is more about putting on an act and mimicking attractive behaviour using routines. Models is more about fixing the emotional usses that made you turn to pickup in the first place. RSD is kinda in the middle.	/r/seduction	09/08/15 08:54 PM
1	should i lower my standards ? but i have daygamed with so many wings in the last few years that i can tell that no matter how confident you are, you will still get a hard time with local girls who have social circles and plenty of ''safer'' options. You just told me that you're not confident, you said you have shit self esteem. Confidence isn't an act i have read models by mark manson and i changed my game lately. I don't even bother about shit test and the why i'm here. No time constraint or any other of these techniques. I…	/r/seduction	07/08/15 08:20 PM
1	Tinder profile help People are using it because its convenient and comfortable, and there's a market for it. Like fast food.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 07:24 AM
-1	Tinder profile help As a fellow former fattie I know how you feel. But say you do sign up for Tinder and you get a date. What then? Aren't you going to get anxiety on the date? You know its your job to decide where to go, you can't just say 'where do you want to go' because you're afraid to make a decision. Its your job to escalate everything, to touch her, kiss her. You can't get away from it. Also you don't have approach anxiety because you used to be fat. Its because of lots of other reasons, and those reasons w…	/r/seduction	07/08/15 07:15 AM
-5	Tinder profile help Love the brutal honestly but this is also the 21st century and meeting people via tinder is common play now. So is masturbating to strangers on Chatroulette, that doesn't mean you should do it too. You know why its common? Because lonely frustrated nerds who had a shitty upbringing and consequently feel shame about their sexuality, feel more comfortable carpet-bombing every woman on a dating site with the same opening message than they do just approaching one girl in real life. Its an epidemic. …	/r/seduction	07/08/15 06:44 AM
-13	Tinder profile help So guys decided to bite the bullet and join the 21st century and get a tinder profile. You fucked up. I am 29 and don't find approaching girls easy, but the bulk of my friends are female so I have no issues talking to girls of any calibre. Firstly "talking to" and "seducing" are two completely different things. Secondly if you're not at the point where you can approach girls, why are you trying to skip ahead? Are you copping out? Because it looks like a cop-out. Approaching girls is hard and sca…	/r/seduction	07/08/15 06:04 AM
23	How chess has helped my text game I didn't realize that responding to every text as soon as possible conveyed a neediness and a lack of a life on my part. It really doesn't. I know business owners, millionaires even, who answer their texts faster than some friends I have who work shitty retail jobs. You don't look high value or busy when you don't respond for an hour and I know you're just sitting at home probably playing xbox. Its just annoying, especially if I suspect you're doing it in order to be percieved as 'high value'. P…	/r/seduction	07/08/15 02:16 AM
1	Good hobbies to have? Or just with myself? Improving yourself will automatically improve your game.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 01:54 AM
3	Healing a Relationship after a Threatened Restraining Order Girls like it when you challenge them, not just emotionally but intellectually. Stand at the edge of the restraining order's distance minimum distance, and shout statements on controversial topics that will make her think and question her own beliefs. Things such as "The holocaust didn't happen", or "9/11 was an inside job" Shout these as loud as you can so that she'll definitely hear you.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 01:52 AM
1	Netflix date set up? This is a pretty dumb question.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 01:43 AM
6	How to get a girl interested? can i get actual help? Forget her, she's not interested.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 01:39 AM
0	should i lower my standards ? Online dating is a crutch and a cop-out, especially if you can't talk to girls in real life. You trade away your most valuable assets (personality, humor, wit, charm) and pin all of your hopes on your photo and some text. And you choose to compete on an even playing field with every other baby-back bitch beta who can't talk to a girl. You're not going to grow as a person if you do this.	/r/seduction	07/08/15 01:37 AM
6	should i lower my standards ? I would guess from your post that the problem is that you have horribly low self-esteem, and no amount of superficial 'game' is going to cover it up for you. You feel lonely in the evenings, girls can detect that, it's called desperation. Whenever you talk to a girl she can tell that underneath your pickup lines you desperately want her to pay attention to you and approve of you. What do you think is more likely? That every girl in Brussels is 'bitchy', or that there's something they don't like …	/r/seduction	06/08/15 10:56 PM
1	How should I (guy) talk to a girl to keep her interested in you and the conversation at hand? Glad you like it. I tend to post it a lot. Here's another talk that kind of corroborates the points he was making.	/r/seduction	06/08/15 05:26 PM
1	How to get the kiss on a first date - A helpful philosophy(?) [FR] Any idea why this happens to you?	/r/seduction	06/08/15 05:24 PM
1	Need help: I'm 28 years old and have never been on a date, what do I do? If you want immediate results, then anything you do will see an improvement. Literally read any book, or watch any DVD on this pickup stuff, and you will probably end up getting somewhere with a girl. That's what I did, I spent a long time being depressed and with low self esteem, very little involvement with girls. Started doing pickup, reading certain blogs and forums, etc. RSD flawless natural (oh here it is, thanks google) probably helped me the most early on. So for now, try anything, and s…	/r/seduction	06/08/15 05:18 PM
1	Any quiet guys on here? Listening can be good	/r/seduction	06/08/15 04:35 PM
5	Fortune Favors the Bold "BUT MOOOOOM!"	/r/seduction	06/08/15 03:09 PM
24	How to get the kiss on a first date - A helpful philosophy(?) [FR] How to get a kiss on the first date tl;dr: just kiss her.	/r/seduction	06/08/15 01:25 PM
1	How do rich guys get a lot of hot girls? I imagine that the pre-ironman playboy Tony Stark archetype is most likely just a Hollywood myth that you're believing. If you rely entirely on money I imagine you're going to pay for lots of dates, and you're going to give girls a lot of validation from being seen with you and in whatever prestigious circles you inhabit, but I doubt you're going to sleep with more girls than anyone else can.	/r/seduction	06/08/15 01:10 PM
5	So... how do you guys avoid getting girlfriends all the time? dont bother psycho analyzing me, its just foolish You're right, you probably should get a professional to do that	/r/seduction	06/08/15 12:18 PM
12	So... how do you guys avoid getting girlfriends all the time? Have you considered the possibility that your view of relationships as a whole might have been unfairly tarnished because of this experience? How do you feel about forming friendships with other men after your former friend hooked up with your ex?	/r/seduction	05/08/15 10:10 PM
1	Allow Yourself to Act Natural - The New 'Be Yourself' Of course if you have any of those and you aren't working on any of those, you can know all the game in the fucking world, but >ultimately you won't be congruent with who you really are (e.g. being natural). And you probably won't even talk to a girl and get results. This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about. Because I've already been through this phase. You will get results. Shitty superficial PUA advice has always gotten results. Like attracts like, so you can learn a bunch o…	/r/seduction	05/08/15 08:14 PM
1	Allow Yourself to Act Natural - The New 'Be Yourself' That's a fair point. Sticking with the crutch analogy, I see the value of crutches as long as they're used as part of an overall healing process and not seen as a tool that you'll be relying on for the rest of your life. I agree that learning social skills is very important, but its important that you can use them to understand why your old behaviour was so wrong, and come to terms with the feelings that motivated that old behaviour. For example, you are right that women will test you, that's be…	/r/seduction	05/08/15 07:26 PM
1	Allow Yourself to Act Natural - The New 'Be Yourself' What you appear to be saying is this: Start with the assumption that you are of low value conciously build a facade of high-value and attractive behaviour actively practice until it gets results practice until you can do it without thinking Unfortunately this approach is nothing new or insightful, it goes back to the oldest forms of pickup. Guys dedicate a lot of time and effort to skirting around the mountain of emotional issues that made them shit with girls in the first place, while steadily …	/r/seduction	05/08/15 06:47 PM
1	How do you transition from general chit chat to expressing your interest and building attraction? A lot of people find compliments annoying and hard to deal with, especially if they're just thrown out all the time. I'd say if you're going to compliment someone save it for when they've done something to truly deserve it. Throwing out compliments all the time just devalues your opinion.	/r/seduction	05/08/15 10:56 AM
3	What is a good first message to send? The correct way to send a message in online dating is to navigate to your account settings, find the option that lets you delete your account, use it, and then go outside and approach girls. Seduction is about behaviour, personality, confidence, charm, wit, humor. Online dating is about profile pictures and cold text. You are giving up the use of your most powerful assets when you choose online dating. All while choosing to compete on an even footing with every frustrated chump too scared to tal…	/r/seduction	05/08/15 10:01 AM
25	Come back from a bad reputation? Its possible yeah. But maybe over a long period of time. If you're hoping that she'll become receptive to you, I'd seriously consider just meeting other girls. Its a lot less effort.	/r/seduction	05/08/15 09:17 AM
1	Bodybuilders, gym rats and other athletes of seddit, where and when do you find time to game? Have you considered just approaching and talking to girls that you encounter in your everyday life? If you don't encounter girls in your everyday life... then have you consideredre-evaluating how you spend your time? he's telling me that I have to go out everyday and game Jesus christ why do people still do that?	/r/seduction	04/08/15 03:59 PM
5	How should I (guy) talk to a girl to keep her interested in you and the conversation at hand? That video is garbage. This one might teach you something	/r/seduction	04/08/15 01:26 PM
2	I am a total disaster with women What kind of things have you done to try to improve since you realized that you had to change?	/r/seduction	04/08/15 12:24 PM
4	Which hobbies and subreddits helped improve your lifestyle/game the most? Competitive physical activity of one form or another, whether its team sports or martial arts, can do wonders for you.	/r/seduction	04/08/15 06:32 AM
3	Which hobbies and subreddits helped improve your lifestyle/game the most? Basically paying attention to people when people are talking. Its the foundation of Charisma You become fully present in the moment, un-distracted by the past or the future, not thinking about what you're going to say next, not letting your mind wander. You're focused and paying attention to the person you're with. It is surprisingly powerful. Here's one talk about it and Charisma in general Here's another talk more geared towards talking to girls	/r/seduction	04/08/15 06:31 AM
4	Which hobbies and subreddits helped improve your lifestyle/game the most? That's a fuckin' good idea.	/r/seduction	04/08/15 06:26 AM
2	Can learning how to play the guitar help a guy get laid? If you do something for the purposes of getting girls to pay attention to you, rather than doing that thing for its own sake and your own interest in it... then no. Also every dickhead and his dog plays the guitar.	/r/seduction	04/08/15 12:01 AM
6	I can't f*** new girls, or any girl, the first time !! Nobody ever wants to hear it, but it is the most likely reason is psychological and you should see someone. You should also lay off the porn as well Read this it might help. Here's a relevant part.	/r/seduction	03/08/15 09:31 PM
1	Game without Games(Free Book on Amazon) on Confidence, AA, Rejection, Fear and Inner Game Neat.	/r/seduction	03/08/15 06:05 PM
1	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? You don't need to justify yourself to me or get my approval to do what you want to do. Just don't hurt anyone and be honest with yourself. I hope you find happiness :)	/r/seduction	03/08/15 10:27 AM
2	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? It's not an emotional validation thing. If you say so.	/r/seduction	03/08/15 09:36 AM
9	Simple way to see of you're being needy over text Policing your behavior is all well and good, but try to be aware of your feelings when you do it, since the feelings of neediness are obviously the cause of needy behavior. Even if you suppress the behaviour, the neediness is going to come across in your interactions one way or another.	/r/seduction	03/08/15 09:16 AM
1	Simple way to see of you're being needy over text so where is this information readily available? sidebar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy Not shitting on the OP, but it is a well known concept.	/r/seduction	03/08/15 09:12 AM
2	How do you date good looking girls when you're not a good looking guy? You're not a bitch for being unsatisfied, don't put yourself down. But now I understand why you're frustrated, you're using Tinder. Get off Tinder. Talk to girls in real life. Tinder is the ONE place where it DOES matter if you can make a nice photo or not, because the entire site relies entirely on people liking photos. You could be the wittiest, most charming and personally amazing motherfucker in the world and get fucking nothing on Tinder if you have a shit photo. You're literally trading aw…	/r/seduction	03/08/15 04:47 AM
1	Getting shot down after every night approach And for example, one girl said "you're making me really uncomfortable" when i kept persisting and asking her random open ended questions It sounds like you're kind of oblivious and unable to read social situations or body language. You also appear to not know how to have a conversation if you're opening and then fizzling out. Here's a good video about holding a conversation. There are various books you might be able to read to improve your social perception and reading of body language. The Defi…	/r/seduction	03/08/15 04:24 AM
2	How do you date good looking girls when you're not a good looking guy? The very idea of rating yourself and girls on a scale of 1-10 is stupid. Firstly because it puts girls on a pedestal, makes you think that they're out of reach because of their looks, makes it harder to consider them as people with personalities. Secondly its stupid because if VASTLY oversimplifies the nuances of attraction. Thirdly its stupid because you're clearly insecure about your appearance and you're rating yourself as unattractive, a rating which happens to be in the very middle of your …	/r/seduction	03/08/15 03:24 AM
2	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? I wouldn't say that not wanting to be in a relationship is the same as 'being promiscuous' tbh	/r/seduction	03/08/15 02:40 AM
2	Getting shot down after every night approach Your post hasn't really given any details What do you typically do or say when you approach a girl? What do they say in response? What is the 'fucked up shit' you've heard girls say?	/r/seduction	03/08/15 01:30 AM
2	My self-esteem is taking a beating from consistently being rejected. How do I overcome this and stay positive? http://i.imgur.com/5tvsmVQ.gif	/r/seduction	03/08/15 01:11 AM
1	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? I used the analogy of sex and food elsewhere in this thread. I think its a good comparison. If you're coming from a situation where you're having no sex whatsoever, and then aiming to fuck as many girls as possible... is that really 'sex for its own sake'? Sounds to me its more like a man starving to death wishing he could gorge himself on food. Are you experienced enough in sex to know the difference between enjoying sex for its own sake, and having sex to fulfill some kind of need for validati…	/r/seduction	03/08/15 01:03 AM
2	My self-esteem is taking a beating from consistently being rejected. How do I overcome this and stay positive? I struggled with low self esteem for a long time. It might be that you are not actually being yourself at all, and that's the problem. It's entirely likely that if you are self-conscious and have low self-esteem, and you fear that others will judge you negatively, then you will hide your real personality behind certain approval-seeking behaviors. It can be quite insidious, because you might not even realize that you're doing it. Ridding yourself of this kind of approval-seeking behavior, learnin…	/r/seduction	03/08/15 12:34 AM
18	My self-esteem is taking a beating from consistently being rejected. How do I overcome this and stay positive? I have been matching with very decent looking women and having great first dates, just about all of them haven't returned my texts to go out again. I know I am not acting desperate or pulling nice guy bullshit, but yeah, nothing. That's not the sign of a 'good first date', the sign of a good first date is a second date. You say you're not acting desperate, yet everything you've posted seems to convey that you are desperate for some form of female validation. Even if you're trying to cover it wit…	/r/seduction	02/08/15 05:19 PM
2	Girl with kids at a festival So my following questions: any good tips on escalating (for the next girl that doesn't have 3 kids) at festivals or clubs? Also some links to club game books/guides would be very nice. ------------------------------------> Sidebar	/r/seduction	02/08/15 04:45 PM
19	Female with a question about flirting. I'm just a little nervous to offend in some way I guess. Yeah that's understandable, and its how a lot of guys feel too. Girls generally just stick to dropping hints because its so much more comfortable to drop hints and wait for them to pick up on it than it is to take a 'risk' and overtly make a move. I doubt that you'll offend him if you give him your number. You might surprise him, and he might not know what to say. The worst that can happen is you end up where you are now, i.e. not going ou…	/r/seduction	02/08/15 04:42 PM
21	Nobody is Watching And then you tip your fedora to the girl and she grabs your arm and you stroll down to the malt shop to grab a shake before asking her father's permission to take her to the dance.	/r/seduction	02/08/15 04:04 PM
5	Why she ignores me on facebook? She always ignores my friend request. I have noticed that she ignores it not delete it. I have tried using different accounts with different names and she deletes all the requests and even block if sent repeatedly. I DON'T WANT TO COME OFF AS NEEDY AND CREEPY YOU GUYS SO I'M GOING TO REPEATEDLY SEND FRIEND REQUESTS FROM DIFFERENT FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS BECAUSE SHE KEEPS IGNORING OR BLOCKING ME! HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Just forget it, move on, you're done with this girl. There's so much wrong with everythi…	/r/seduction	02/08/15 04:00 PM
1	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? Because the deficiency of sex is the cause of the self improvement, not because people are dis-satisfied with having lots of sex. Sex is like food. If you don't have any food then that's unhealthy. If you're eating way too much food then that's also unhealthy. If you're eating lots of the wrong type of food and aren't getting the nutrients you need, that's also bad. If you have some kind of compulsion to eat as opposed to just eating when you are hungry, that's certainly not good. You can have s…	/r/seduction	02/08/15 03:53 PM
12	Can someone compare mystery method to bang by roosh v? Which is more effective and successful? Well models is completely different to Mystery, since Models is more about fixing your emotional shit, sorting your life out, and learning how to be a genuine person with self esteem... Wheras Mystery is more about building a persona, and hiding your emotional problems behind an elaborate facade to get girls to like you. Consider that a drive towards promiscuity might be a symptom of the emotional issues that are making you suffer with regards to getting girls. You're probably looking for valida…	/r/seduction	01/08/15 10:51 PM
4	Why do I suddenly get cold silence? I'm sometimes too scared to escalate on the first date. I need to feel a vibe that they really like me first. Maybe that's the problem. That vibe is called sexual tension, and it is your job to create that vibe. I think this talk was quite insightful and might help.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 10:23 PM
3	Game during loving relationship A lot of guys turn to pickup because they're miserably unsuccessful with women. Then they learn 'game' and they get women and its a great improvement over being celibate. Then they meet a girl that they actually like a lot, and they revert back to the old passive doormat habits that made them miserably shit with girls in the first place and they lose her, then go back to being a 'player' again. The fact that you feel as though you have to maintain your 'game' while you're in a relationship is ve…	/r/seduction	01/08/15 10:01 PM
2	Seeking advice for asking out an escort/stripper via text Could you please not use a shitty novelty account to shit on people who are trying to improve their lives? Thanks.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 09:52 PM
5	Why do I suddenly get cold silence? If you're texting a little back and forth then fizzling out, then you're not making enough of an impression on them when you meet them. Either that or you're not making the moves that they want you to make. When you get a number do you try to set up a date or do you just try to engage in smalltalk?	/r/seduction	01/08/15 09:44 PM
1	Understanding what Robert Glover means by "Attachments" in "No More Mr. Nice Guy." Do some parts of NMMNG contradict Red Pill theory? I think a lot of people try to rationalize themselves into feeling confident. They look at their material possessions, or accomplishments, or whatever, and then compare those to people around them, and if they come out favorably then they decide that they are allowed to be confident. This method for confidence will inevitably be situational, because there's always someone who has it better than you. You can become a millionaire, have a million dollar mansion in Beverly Hills, look out over your …	/r/askTRP	01/08/15 04:33 PM
3	Despite what other dating advice has told you, DON'T take her phone number I'd second what others have already said. This is absolute garbage advice. Girls very rarely ever do anything if you 'put the ball in their court'. Girls don't like making decisions, they don't like sticking their neck out, they don't like risking rejection or being proactive. That's why men approach and open, that's why men call/text, that's why men decide where the date will be, that's why men escalate. The ball will stay in her court if you put it there. She will derp around and make excuses …	/r/seduction	01/08/15 04:08 PM
1	Looking for advice What do you think I should do? I think you should stop overthinking this shit.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 03:57 PM
1	Threesome - Hunting [Part 1] You might find /r/sex or some of the specialist subs in their sidebar more useful for this kind of thing, since this sub is aimed more at advice and self-improvement for guys who can't get any sex, rather than committed couples who regularly have threesomes. However I'm sure you've succeeded in making many subscribers here very jealous.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 03:16 PM
2	Failure never felt so sweet, till I did my first approach today Thats more like it. Thanks.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 01:13 AM
15	How can I pursue girls that are out of my league?? Do you not see the inherent problem with the mindset of thinking that girls are out of your league? Low self-esteem. Putting girls on a pedestal... No.	/r/seduction	01/08/15 12:38 AM
20	Failure never felt so sweet, till I did my first approach today WELL WHERE'S MY UPVOTE THEN? I NEED VALIDATION FOR MY EXCELLENT POSTS OF INSIGHT AND WISDOM!	/r/seduction	01/08/15 12:24 AM
20	Failure never felt so sweet, till I did my first approach today You shouldn't count rejection as 'failure', especially if you learn something from it.	/r/seduction	31/07/15 11:29 PM
1	Critique on this Kino Escalation Strategy ? So, you are literally telling me to just do it like Nike. If I like her legs, say she has nice legs, and throw them over my lap and run my fngers over them ? And that's not going to be a red flag? (I'm just making sure, cause if that's the case it's going down.) That kind of thing does happen, but you can usually detect when a girl is receptive to that kind of thing. If I were you and you're just getting used to the idea of touching a girl with purpose, I'd really consider starting with the hand…	/r/seduction	31/07/15 04:41 PM
9	Approaching a group of women (2-3) solo I don't think you're asking "how do I do this" because the way you do it is very simple: Go up to them. Say hi. Say that you wanted to talk to their friend because she's really cute. See what happens. Direct. Honest. Effective, because it demonstrates confidence and vulnerability. Gives you a good chance of getting into the good graces of her friends because you asked them instead of trying to sneak in and steal her from behind their backs. What you're probably asking is "how do I make the prosp…	/r/seduction	31/07/15 04:34 PM
2	Critique on this Kino Escalation Strategy ? Are you so afraid of offending her with your sexuality that you need to invent some lame excuse to hold hands with her? Stop thinking of excuses, do what feels right at the time. Don't be afraid of offending her. Touch her with purpose - you hold her hand because you want to hold her hand, not because "oh um you have small hands let me just compare them, no no I'm not just trying to touch your hand for the RAW SEXUAL THRILL OF IT! N-NO! I'm just comparing h-hand sizes! Really!" What are you goin…	/r/seduction	31/07/15 04:06 PM
2	How to figure out what they want I know How to Win Friends and Influence People says that a lot of the art of conversation is in getting the other person to talk about something that they enjoy. Simply by listening to them and giving them validation they will end up with the impression that you are a great conversationalist, even if you didn't actually speak very much. This talk also covers the same principals, you might find it helpful.	/r/seduction	31/07/15 03:42 PM
3	(Update) Smoothie cafe girl rekt	/r/seduction	31/07/15 03:06 AM
1	[Tinder] I'm new to game/ Pick up, could set up dates right now, not really arsed? Don't fill your life with 'meh'. If its not a definite yes then its a no. Also don't rate women on a 1-10 scale, its a subtle way of putting them on a pedestal. Just rate them on a 0-1 scale, either you're not interested or you are.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 07:30 PM
-1	If a woman says to her girlfriends that a guy she had sex with was good in bed, would her friends be more likely to want to sleep with him? That's an oddly specific and really awful question.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 07:27 PM
6	(Update) Smoothie cafe girl If she didn't want to go out with you, she wouldn't have said yes or given you her number. She could have used the old "I have a boyfriend" to get out of it tactfully. So stop being paranoid.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 07:10 PM
1	How to last longer in bed [Infographic] The book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover goes into some possible psychological causes, its quite interesting since he's an actual psychologist. I think people have a problem acknowledging that they might have some psychological or emotional issues, because they have no idea how to tackle them. Its so much easier to just say "well I'll stop drinking Red Bull, that'll fix everything"	/r/seduction	30/07/15 06:08 PM
1	How to figure out what they want Why are you basing your entire method for seduction on some advice that you may have vaguely heard about at some point, but apparently didn't understand at all?	/r/seduction	30/07/15 05:52 PM
1	How to last longer in bed [Infographic] And psychological issues. Don't forget those.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 05:44 PM
1	Any Tips on sounding more Sexual like this guy? I don't understand what you mean? Are you asking how to flirt?	/r/seduction	30/07/15 05:42 PM
1	Use Rewards to Motivate If you're doing something that you don't like all for the promise of a reward, I think you'll always have consistency issues. If you don't like going to the gym, consider doing something that you do enjoy as a workout. Football, rock climbing, bike riding. It can also double as a social hobby, make you new friends, and having an active competitive outlet as a man is very healthy. You don't have to lift weights. You just have to not be a fat lazy piece of shit.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 05:14 PM
13	Meditation Yes, meditation is good, and I should do it more. By the way practicing presence is very helpful in social situations themselves. If you are interacting with someone and that person can tell that you are fully present in the moment and properly listening to them, they will appreciate it very much. Presence is the foundation of charisma.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 03:34 PM
2	I Just Saw my Ex. Yes. That's why people write books about it. Try Models by Mark Manson.	/r/seduction	30/07/15 02:39 PM
2	How to approach a woman on public transport? Taking an active role is great! But to me if only one person is being active and the other isn't doing anything or making any moves at all that would seem to me that they just aren't very interested. So why bother? Girls usually show their interest by responding to a guy's moves, because they're used to and comfortable with being pursued. Why stick your neck out and risk rejection? That's the guy's job. If the guy doesn't make all the moves then that's usually an indication to her that he's not …	/r/seduction	29/07/15 10:34 PM
2	How to approach a woman on public transport? I agree it's definitely more common for the guy to make the first move. Yes. That's why its generally best to advise guys not to be passive. Because in the majority of their interactions they're going to be expected to take an active role. but to have to do all the legwork seems unfair It is and it isn't. Some guys might see it as unfair because they're afraid to risk rejection, and they think "oh man why can't girls just throw themselves at me like in one of my japanese animes!". But when you g…	/r/seduction	29/07/15 08:13 PM
5	For all the people disappointed in getting no replies from gals, read this. Online dating, but close to reality The reality is that if a girl doesn't respond to your messages, its because you didn't make a big enough impression on her when you met her. If you're doing online dating then you haven't had a chance to meet her, so your options for making an impression are very limited. Your ability to make an impression online basically boils down to having nice photos on your profile. Whereas in real life you have many more tools at your disposal, i.e. your personality and your 'game'. Those sites are overpo…	/r/seduction	29/07/15 07:10 PM
3	How to approach a woman on public transport? I'm a girl and I would personally be fine with this. If I like him, he has already made the first move, making the next move wouldn't be a problem. You say that but in reality its guys that have to do all the legwork. Guys approach, guys get the number, guys text her, guys set up the date. Then while on the date guys decide where to go, and how/when to escalate. Girls very rarely do any of this. And lets be honest how much of an impression can a guy make on a girl by smiling and giving her his n…	/r/seduction	29/07/15 06:48 PM
3	How to approach a woman on public transport? Giving your number to a girl generally isn't a good idea, because you're placing the ball in her court and expecting her to make the next move, which girls don't typically like to do.	/r/seduction	29/07/15 05:02 PM
3	Sedução na Rua ¿que?	/r/seduction	29/07/15 04:02 PM
4	I'm stuck in coward mode,please help funny you speak of nofap, because youre right! i relapsed, and felt like crap If you want just restrict yourself to fapping once per week, and don't use porn. There's no evidence that there are any real benefits after 1 week anyway.	/r/seduction	29/07/15 03:50 PM
0	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. Sure. If that's how bad your reading comprehension is, let's just leave it at that and call it a night. Consider not making a post where all you do is take things to ridiculous extremes to try to undermine a point that you disagree with, and then maybe you'd be better understood.	/r/seduction	29/07/15 03:16 AM
1	[Advice] leaving when she has a boyfriend Good decision. She's not interested. Don't waste your time.	/r/seduction	29/07/15 02:51 AM
0	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. That's nice and all, but how many conversations do you have with fat and ugly girls? Old women? Random guys? They're all equally likely to provide good conversation, but I'm willing to be they represent a minority of your approaches. That's a good indication that sexual relations are by far your dominant motivator and you should be able to acknowledge that since you spoke at length about how men need to understand that there's nothing wrong with them pursuing their desires. Are you saying that i…	/r/seduction	29/07/15 02:45 AM
27	14 yo First approach! Good job, buddy.	/r/seduction	29/07/15 12:43 AM
2	I'm pretty good with actually going over to talk to her, what's next? I don't really have a set list of topics, because 75% of communication is non-verbal, and what you say isn't as important as how you say it, and your attitudes and feelings towards the interaction. Its true though that conversation is an art that you can learn and practice, but you don't learn it by having an arsenal of topics that you can bring up. Its more about enabling the other person to talk. This is a pretty good talk on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI	/r/seduction	29/07/15 12:08 AM
1	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. That's the missing link i guess. Confidence is a real multiplier. It is, and my overarching point here is that you can learn it, and its a better use of peoples time to learn that than to learn techniques for the purposes of mimicking confidence. Being subtle and clever transmits intelligence, a desirable trait. One of the big disappointments for nerds who learn pickup is finding out that when girls say they want someone who is 'intelligent' they really mean they want someone who has emotional i…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 07:41 PM
0	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. I disagree. Growing up and learning things isn't an intellectual process. A dog is not born with the skills necessary to obey instructions. When a dog is being trained its just responding to stimuli. "If I do this then I get a treat and I like treats" - thats not intellectual, dogs are not intellectual creatures. That's emotion. Growing up is an emotional process, and some of us didn't have the best upbringing, so we end up as adults not being able to express our sexuality in a healthy way. In N…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 07:33 PM
0	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. Why stop there? You're not really interested in the conversation. Well I kind of am interested in the conversation. If I'm going to spend time with a girl then I'm going to want to enjoy that time. Conversation and dating should not be an arduous chore that you have to grind through, you want to be able to enjoy it. Sex is something that should happen as a natural consequence of hanging out with someone you like, not as some kind of reward for using the correct techniques to solve the girl puzzl…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 07:14 PM
1	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. You're either extremely hot and they ignore the pathetic technique, or just lucky. Seduction is about subtlety. Not about saving time. lol no I'm not extremely hot, I need to lose some weight actually. I just have self-esteem. I can contemplate the idea of a girl liking me for who I am, without feeling the need to somehow trick her into liking me with clever techniques and psychological tricks. I didn't always have self esteem though, and I know how it feels to be scared of approaching girls, an…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 07:06 PM
3	Better Sales vs. Better Product What you say is right, and its what I always advise. People get into self improvement to get girls. Improve their lives as a byproduct. Then realize that they had to improve their lives in order to get the girls all along. Girls are the icing on top of a well baked life-cake.	/r/seduction	28/07/15 09:09 AM
12	Going on my first date ever, how to keep it from being a boring quiz show? The shit ones are.	/r/seduction	28/07/15 08:59 AM
1	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. I don't disagree with you entirely, but your thought process is based mostly on the idea of inner game. While inner game is an essential aspect of seduction, not all of pickup simply deals with "expressing your true desires" and suddenly all the girls will want you. You're equating 'seduction' with purely 'pickup'. The intellectualized routines and theories is not 'seduction', it is 'pickup', and it is a crutch that people use to overcome whatever problems they have that made them unable to natu…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 08:56 AM
0	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. Openers and routines are more about making you feel better about approaching girls than actually getting better results. If the thought of openly expressing your desires and intentions to a woman fills you with dread, and you feel the need to obfuscate that desire/intent in some kind of routine or opener, then you have issues. Those issues are probably the reason why you felt as though you needed to turn to pickup routines in the first place. It makes more sense to fix the actual problem than to…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 07:01 AM
4	I approach 3 to 5 girls every day. Here is my secret. Practice. The more I practice the better I get at it. This is with most things. The more you do something, the more attuned your mind and your body are to it. I think more people should focus on bettering themselves, rather than practicing getting better at pickup techniques. How I approach. There are three ways I approach: 1) Ask a question, 2) Compliment, 3) Ask for a female opinion. Why do you feel compelled to disguise your true intentions with feeble pretenses? How I approach: "Hi my name i…	/r/seduction	28/07/15 04:35 AM
2	People Who overcame low self-esteem I dont like the example.you have given me of that actor because he is just an excepction, thanks for the effort. If you are reading the Power of Now, then you should be able to recognize when you have a harmful pattern circulating in your head. You have lost perspective on the issue and you're treating baldness like a crippling disability. Im not trying to attack you, just trying to vent some frustration I guess... Im stuck with this, cant change it and acceptance seems like surrendering. Wrong …	/r/seduction	28/07/15 12:51 AM
4	People Who overcame low self-esteem Go to the gym, grow a beard, dress well are just small fixes to a sinking boat Okay buddy The shave and.embrace.it is just an acceptance of the defeat. Acceptance and forgiveness of yourself is the key to self esteem. You are in a state where you have to rationalize to yourself why you deserve to be happy and confident. You compare your situation, your looks, your income, your life and accomplishments to other people, and based on that comparison you decide whether or not to give yourself permis…	/r/seduction	27/07/15 11:24 PM
1	PSA: The BEST BF destroyer (tested with 100% success rate) The effort of maintaining contact with a girl who has a boyfriend. I mean I don't understand how that works. You approach a girl, express interest in her, ask her out, she says she has a boyfriend... Personally I don't really see the point of continuing to talk after that point. So I'll drop it and move on, not in a rude way obviously. Its essentially treated the same as a rejection. I don't keep in contact with girls that have rejected me trying to 'plant seeds' hoping that they'll eventually c…	/r/seduction	27/07/15 08:08 PM
6	Things just blew up in my face beta cant get girls beta learns pickup beta becomes alpha alpha gets lots of girls alpha meets girl he likes alpha reverts to being beta because painting a thin veneer of game over your emotional issues doesn't really fix anything beta loses girl(s) repeat	/r/seduction	27/07/15 02:55 PM
8	What are some examples of alpha-like etiquette and etiquette which is beta? I don't really like the dichotomy of alpha and beta, since if you can adopt a set of superficial characteristics and successfully portray either, and its very easy for someone to flip between these two sets of behavior. You don't actually fix anything about yourself by adopting new superficial characteristics. You can spend all this time learning new ways to behave, but underneath all of your good social skills and game you are still massively needy and insecure, then ultimately you haven't real…	/r/seduction	27/07/15 02:48 PM
3	PSA: The BEST BF destroyer (tested with 100% success rate) Sounds like you're putting in a lot of effort into this. The real indicator as to whether a girl is having problems with her boyfriend, is that when you hit on her, get her number, go out with her, or take her home... she won't mention him at all. Or if she does mention him it'll be in the taxi on the way back to your place, or the next morning. You don't need to even ask if she has a boyfriend or not. If it's a factor then she will bring it up early. Then you just save yourself a ton of time an…	/r/seduction	27/07/15 02:29 PM
1	How to start (text game?) Well then fuck it. If you have no way to meet her in real life then just text her and ask her out. There's no magic technique, either she's receptive to you or she isn't.	/r/seduction	27/07/15 02:13 PM
18	How to start (text game?) Got her on facebook and added her phone number when I was in a group chat with her some time ago. Just don't. Starting the conversation with her trying to establish who you even are, is opening from the weakest possible position. If you have a friend in common I'd seriously consider asking your friend to somehow arrange for you both to meet in real life and then hit on her in person. Either as part of a night out of a wider group, or even just ask your friend to set you up on a date and then see…	/r/seduction	26/07/15 11:17 PM
-1	Confidence, assertiveness, boldness? mbrace AA? Murder AA...strangle it till it's dead. It's only rejection is you see it that way. I don't think that trying to rationalize yourself out of a perfectly normal or healthy feeling of nervousness is really possible for some people, nor is it necessary if that feeling is not preventing him from taking action.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 10:53 PM
1	Confidence, assertiveness, boldness? Are you just putting on some kind of 'bold assertive confident' act, and wondering why it's not working? How do you feel? What kind of thing do you say?	/r/seduction	26/07/15 10:50 PM
2	Female friends; how do I make those friendships work and what should I expect? Women have trouble believing guys want to actually be just friends. But if we're being honest here, do guys themselves really believe that they want to be friends? Or are they just looking for some kind of consolation prize after getting rejected? I don't want to seek a friendship with a girl that I was interested in and got rejected by. I don't bear her any ill-will, I just don't see the point. If I'm going to be friends with someone it should happen naturally, not as part of some kind of conso…	/r/seduction	26/07/15 10:08 PM
5	Man asks woman to take his virginity for his birthday, adds $100 offer, and girl explodes -- breaking down how to identify bad information Anyway, I like writing about this kind of stuff Yes I can see that :\|	/r/seduction	26/07/15 09:52 PM
9	Female friends; how do I make those friendships work and what should I expect? This is a very insightful lecture on the subject, everyone would do well to watch this all the way through.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 09:36 PM
-2	[Discussion] Do you believe in peacocking? You're not a robot, stop acting like one.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 07:04 PM
3	Was he running game on me? It sounds like he was running what you might call 'game'. But I don't think that's the question you really mean to ask. I think what you're really asking is: "Was he being dishonest, and was all that I saw just part of an elaborate act?" Its possible that it was all an act, and its possible that his 'game' was just a part of who he really is. Just by your descriptions of his actions I don't think we can make that call. If someone is inauthentic then its usually something you can feel on a gut le…	/r/seduction	26/07/15 05:50 PM
-2	[Discussion] Do you believe in peacocking? Nice meme. But really some people do rely on a persona, or act, in order to get girls. Mystery is a prime example. Peacocking comes from very old-school performance-based pickup and I'd like to think we've moved on from using shitty gimmicks to get girls to pay attention to you.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 05:39 PM
6	Is it bad to tell your first date that you're dating other women? What a man considers a 'woman of true value' is up to him, not you. You might have certain values and standards and preferences when it comes to dating, and that's perfectly okay for you. But other women might have different standards and values, and that's okay too. You're right insofar as honestly in communication and intent is important, but please don't come here and pretend that you are the spokesperson for what all women want. Dating is an economy, not a single market, there's a product fo…	/r/seduction	26/07/15 05:33 PM
4	Going to Vegas!!!! Well the trees did... I don't think pools can catch on fire	/r/seduction	26/07/15 04:10 PM
3	How to Have a Perfect First Date Split the bill. This is a shit test on your part. If she refuses to do the fair thing and split the bill, my advice would be to move on. This is a really stupid dealbreaker. Sure you can intellectually justify why a woman should pay half of the bill on a date. You can cite feminist rhetoric about equality all you want. Maybe you'll score some points on leredpill telling them how you got up and walked away when a girl complained about paying for her half of the bill. If that's what you want then …	/r/seduction	26/07/15 04:06 PM
4	Going to Vegas!!!! Sunscreen?	/r/seduction	26/07/15 01:25 PM
1	[Meta] /u/Kevinthepillow gives words all of Seddit should consider (end of this comment, and then the response) Nice try Kevinthepillow's alt	/r/seduction	26/07/15 11:48 AM
-6	[Discussion] Do you believe in peacocking? If your game relies on creating an elaborate and extravagant persona/facade to shield your true self from the world because you have shitty self-esteem, then yeah I see why peacocking would work into that.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 11:41 AM
14	If a girl refuses to spilt the bill with me, based on expectations of chivalry, is that a red flag to move on? I don't buy drinks for girls if I meet them while I'm out, but I generally pay for things on a date, because I asked them out after all. Girls like it if you take care of them. It's a manly thing to do. Instinct runs far deeper than these modern ideas of equality.	/r/seduction	26/07/15 12:01 AM
105	Thanks to Seddit, finally happened good job buddy	/r/seduction	25/07/15 11:54 PM
1	How to Approach a Girl PUA is a good stepping stone to getting some results in spite of your emotional issues. That's fine, go ahead and use it. Just know that the long-term plan shouldn't be to become good at PUA, it should be to fix your emotional issues that made you need PUA in the first place. how can I go get a normal society thinking if I was subjected to all of this. Thats what I mean by fixing your issues. I never said it would be easy. Consider therapy.	/r/seduction	25/07/15 11:47 PM
4	How to Approach a Girl True its not hard, but people make it hard, because they've got emotional issues and as a result of those issues they are shit with girls, so they looked up a solution on the internet. They're profoundly uncomfortable with just openly expressing their desires and taking action to directly getting their needs fulfilled... so they have to create a shield against all of that by wrapping themselves up in complexity, and using routines that disguise their true intentions. But at least that helps them…	/r/seduction	25/07/15 10:19 AM
16	Just fucking kiss her! Its a legitimate concern to be afraid of that you might go too far. But its best to go too far and be told to stop than to not go as far as she wants you to go. As a man its your job to move things forward, that can be scary because the last thing you want to do is force yourself on someone, but the other side of that is that girls really do want you to move things forward. Generally if you feel as though a girl might want you to kiss her, she probably already wanted you to kiss her 15 minutes a…	/r/seduction	23/07/15 07:38 PM
1	Guys what's happening? Good.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 07:26 PM
1	Guys what's happening? I don't really have anything specific on that. Therapy might be a worthwhile option though.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 06:11 PM
1	frustrated with my success, paid for sex. I don't understand what you're trying to say.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 03:08 PM
7	Fapping:Is fapping an enemy or an ally? Nofap is broscience. But there is a marginal increase in testosterone after 1 week of not ejaculating. So reduce your fap sessions down to 1 per week if you want. Also do it without porn, as porn does foster unrealistic expectations. Instead just imagine a girl that you've met and want to bang. This should give you sufficient energy and motivation to do things that need to be done. There may be no 'cure' for your AA. It could be that you just get nervous when approaching girls. Accept it instead…	/r/seduction	23/07/15 01:20 PM
3	Am I in the wrong? Involves getting XXX rated pictures from girlfriend. Thoughts ? Mostly "What the fuck am I reading?"	/r/seduction	23/07/15 10:38 AM
0	Most bitchy, pretentious Facebook message I have ever received from a woman First of all, I posted here because I'm tired of the fact that men who approach women are stigmatized or labeled as this "creepy" sort of guys, and I felt that many people on this subreddit could relate to that feeling. I think creepyness comes from dishonesty or mixed signals, and even in your post you're giving off mixed signals to the point where I have no idea whether or not you're actually trying to bang her.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 10:34 AM
8	Guys what's happening? So I guess some of this stuff works eh? Well it depends on what you mean by 'works'. Any idiot can read a pickup book, change their behavior, and start getting sex. Going from a situation where you're having no sex to a situation where you are having sex is indeed a vast improvement, if only because being a frustrated incel is awful. But slapping a thin veneer of game on top of the mountain of emotional issues that caused you to be a frustrated incel in the first place is not a long-term solutio…	/r/seduction	23/07/15 09:41 AM
-1	Most bitchy, pretentious Facebook message I have ever received from a woman So... what exactly are you trying to accomplish with this girl? are you interested in her or not? I assume you are since you posted this on /r/seduction If you were interested why not directly ask her out (in person) and get her number in person? Trying to sidle your way into getting someone's number under false pretenses is pretty creepy and I don't blame her for shutting you down.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 09:23 AM
7	frustrated with my success, paid for sex. There's a marginal testosterone increase after 1 week, but no discernible benefits after that. Nofap is mostly broscience. Just cut your fap sessions down to once per week and stop using porn and you'll get all of the benefits.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 08:41 AM
1	frustrated with my success, paid for sex. Paying for sex just shows how low self-confidence you have, you have to gain it by attracting girls not paying them. Getting validation from having girls pay attention to you, and using that as as the basis of your confidence... Mon visage That is a roadmap to failure.	/r/seduction	23/07/15 08:39 AM
2	How to get rid of negative thoughts? A mindfulness approach (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) Mindfulness is all well and good, but a lot of people's problems come from feelings, not thoughts. You can't just choose not to feel a feeling, and fighting/suppressing feelings like nervousness can make it worse. It can be better to just accept them and act in spite of them.	/r/seduction	22/07/15 01:07 PM
1	She ignored my text. text "please respond" over and over again until she responds. We met on tinder, if that helps. Welcome to online dating, girls stop responding a lot of the time. Go and talk to girls in real life, online dating is garbage.	/r/seduction	22/07/15 09:53 AM
10	At what point do you stop texting a girl once attraction is assured? Text her when you want. Stop obsessing over tiny details like this.	/r/seduction	22/07/15 12:23 AM
3	The paradox- Seddit has killed my drive to date women For the 10/10 thing, I prefer 1 or 0, either I am interested or I'm not. I don't like rating women on a scale. Na, I love sex and I know I deserve it. And I've had a good amount but it tends to be with girlfriends or people I have a good connection with. That's perfectly okay, it's probably more healthy than being driven towards promiscuity. You should read Models by Mark Manson, he talks a lot about moving away from standard pickup routines and about how to find girls that you can really connec…	/r/seduction	21/07/15 09:01 PM
1	The paradox- Seddit has killed my drive to date women Is it really a lack of interest or is it a fear of success? Or are you ashamed of your sexuality or do you feel unworthy of having your needs met? Perhaps you're putting women on a pedestal and you're afraid to let them get close. Even scoring a woman as a '10/10' is a subtle way of putting her on a pedestal. A lot of guys who turn to pickup often have a lot of unresolved issues that they've just slapped a thin veneer of game on top of.	/r/seduction	21/07/15 07:09 PM
1	my big success! ... and how to stay alpha? I found that book I linked helpful.	/r/seduction	21/07/15 04:47 PM
3	Why do girls bail/back out on the final moments of a planned date? I'm just saying, your competition is very numerous on online dating sites. Every guy who has ever been afraid to talk to a girl in real life is on this site, carpetbombing everything with a vagina with the same copy-pasted message. Anything you type is going to get lost in that avalanche of spam. And do you think that there are guys on Tinder who actually swipe left on anyone remotely passable? There aren't. The game is not set up in such a way where you get to win, at least not without a lot of…	/r/seduction	21/07/15 03:39 PM
9	Why do girls bail/back out on the final moments of a planned date? You matched on Tinder. You haven't had a chance to make an impression on her so there's no real motive to go out with you. If you meet a girl in real life and make an impression than this isn't a problem. Online dating is a crutch, and its a game that you shouldn't want to play. Don't rely on it, don't invest any time into it, focus on talking to girls in real life.	/r/seduction	21/07/15 03:16 AM
12	Responding to "Woah you're tall" "I'm 6 foot 8 inches... yes those are two separate measurements"	/r/seduction	21/07/15 03:01 AM
54	Yes! Thank you r/Seduction!!!! She said YES but I'll prob ignore her for a few days cus that's what seductive people do right? Well done buddy, but when people say things like this I wish I could slap them through the internet	/r/seduction	21/07/15 02:41 AM
3	Don't be afraid to approach hotter women More likely you keep putting hot girls on a higher pedestal without fully realizing that you're doing it.	/r/seduction	21/07/15 02:35 AM
2	Tired of the hunt? That's probably because you're completely dependent on seeking women's approval and being validated through them. And you see sex as the ultimate form of female approval and validation. It's basically the same compulsion to seek female approval that drives the simpering beta 'niceguy' doormat that many people studying PUA are trying to get away from. But you can't just slap a thin veneer of game on top of a mountain of unresolved emotional issues and expect to be happy. It'll probably be an impr…	/r/seduction	20/07/15 06:33 PM
2	Tired of the hunt? Evopsyche is okay for explaining some behavior, but if you know anything about evolution you'd know that it doesn't work the way it does for the sake of our happiness, health or mental/emotional wellbeing. Those things are your job to manage. That's why nobody here is having sex for the purposes of procreation.	/r/seduction	20/07/15 03:06 PM
6	Tired of the hunt? We were also built to eagerly seek and consume any food that is high in fat, sugar and salt, but now that those things are in abundant supply those urges no longer serve our best interests. Likewise beautiful women are now in abundant supply, there's no need to fuck everything that moves, its not healthy.	/r/seduction	20/07/15 01:48 PM
11	Don't make your life and goals revolve around someone else A lot of people get into self improvement to get girls. Then as a byproduct they improve themselves and their lives. Then find that they get girls anyway as a side-effect of having a better life and being a better person. But while improvement for its own sake is a nice idea, there's nothing wrong with external motivation, which can be very potent.	/r/seduction	20/07/15 11:12 AM
22	How do I create spark and get numbers or f-close in in bar or club ? Your shitty openers aren't working because they do the following things: You are being dishonest with your intentions. You approached a girl because you like the look of her, you want to fuck them, your question in this thread is literally asking "how do I fuck them?" - That's what you want... But instead you approach with small-talk and shitty questions. This is a flimsy attempt to hide your intentions behind a thin shroud of plausible deniability, because you're ashamed of these desires, and t…	/r/seduction	20/07/15 10:43 AM
2	Age opinions, please. Well ultimately you don't have to be a dick to turn someone down that you're not interested in. You're not obliged to spend time with them, and it would be wrong to string them along anyway. Rejecting someone isn't a dick move, it isn't a dick move when a girl does it to you either. They're just not interested, and that's okay, just move on.	/r/seduction	20/07/15 03:35 AM
2	How do you deal with women misinterpreting humor? Well wit and humor in general involve connecting two completely unrelated things in an unexpected way. For example (I hope I don't have to explain the joke) Sarcasm kind of does this, but just by saying something that you don't really mean or you're saying something that obviously can't be true. That's it. That's very low effort. It's possible to do it well but its still not really possible to be sarcastic and be 'witty' unless you're also finding some other source of comedic disconnect and work…	/r/seduction	20/07/15 03:29 AM
22	Tired of the hunt? Having some long-term goals and activities that don't involve your penis would be a good idea. Sex with random women is fun, but it doesn't really lead to long-term fulfillment. If you're using it as a source of validation it can seem like a good path to follow, but that urge might not be coming from a healthy place. The fear of 'getting rusty' is valid if you're following traditional PUA techniques, as they seem to rely a lot on momentum and practice rather than creating deep, lasting character…	/r/seduction	20/07/15 03:14 AM
2	I'm afraid of women I agree with that. Let me reframe however: How can I stop acting clumsy when a girl grabs me and wants to dance? You're right that, singers for example, are still extremely nervous, but they can transfer that energy and give a great performace. How can I use my nervousness (or ignore it) and act smooth/not clumsy? Most guys probably are somewhat nervous when escalating with girls, but most don't seem to show it. You seem to still be thinking in terms of 'how do I act through this' and 'how do I …	/r/seduction	19/07/15 11:10 PM
2	Non-verbal opening in bars and clubs What do you recommend for approaching a girl in a group that is facing the bar, where's there no place to sit to be able to engage one or many of them, and to get any to talk to you would require her to do a full 180 away from her friends to talk to you? Yeah that's harder than just talking to a girl. Best way is to engage the whole group if possible, and ask them if you can talk to her.	/r/seduction	19/07/15 10:22 PM
4	I'm afraid of women This is the typical shit advice I, and many other guys like me, have been given all my life. Its funny, when you no longer need the advice you then see why its good advice, and why people give it... But without an explanation it is kind of useless. Girls do find shyness endearing, honest nervousness when you're approaching a girl is perfectly acceptable, and paradoxically it illustrates confidence because it shows that you're not afraid to be a little bit vulnerable. Conversely if you are nervou…	/r/seduction	19/07/15 10:18 PM
4	How do you deal with women misinterpreting humor? Just move on and stop being sarcastic.	/r/seduction	19/07/15 08:27 PM
0	How do you deal with women misinterpreting humor? Some people are more receptive to different types of humor. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, so you shouldn't rely on it too heavily, if you do then maybe you're just not that funny. But if you do tell a joke and it falls flat, just pretend it didn't happen, move on as fast as possible, don't try to explain the joke.	/r/seduction	19/07/15 08:10 PM
2	Non-verbal opening in bars and clubs (iii) "Hi," or "How's your night?", etc. a. I like easy openers. I experimented with opinion openers for a while, and while I was shocked at how easy it is to transition from something so contrived to a natural conversation... I feel like I am better at transitioning with a simple opener. I feel like it puts more of the conversational burden on her earlier. You shouldn't really try to hide your intentions. The thought of openly expressing your interest in a woman might fill you with dread, so yo…	/r/seduction	19/07/15 08:04 PM
1	I've arrived home at 5AM three nights this week. Thanks Seddit! How much weight did you lose and how long did it take?	/r/seduction	19/07/15 07:47 PM
2	The line between what you are and what you want to become. I have always wanted to become very good looking and make girls just stare at me and fall in love just by one look. This is my realest and purest dream of my life, I still wanna become so good looking that girls fall in love and me just getting all of girls' attention in the streets. This seems like it comes from insecurity, and a need for validation, and probably isn't a healthy goal. Girls are attracted to guys all the time, but they don't sleep with every man that they find attractive, they c…	/r/seduction	19/07/15 05:35 PM
2	What it means when people say "Be Yourself" -RSDTodd If anything will make you more successful with women, its a video full of graphs.	/r/seduction	19/07/15 04:41 PM
12	What's your personal rule for texting/calling the next day? but I want to maintain my image of an in-demand male. Oh for fucks sake dude. Just text her when you want to text her. If she doesn't text you back or doesn't want to go out then so what? If you want to play shitty games and put up some superficial facade of being an 'in demand male' instead of just being you, then you'll attract girls who also play shitty games, and that's a complete waste of time and effort. Also that 'in demand' image is bullshit. I know rich business owners, millionares even…	/r/seduction	19/07/15 04:03 PM