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Red Pill ExampleMr-Metaphor/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 03:20 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/seduction23/06/13 10:03 PM
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Red Pill ExampleMr-Metaphor/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 11:11 PM
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Red Pill TheoryMr-Metaphor/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 03:25 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/seduction02/06/13 07:41 PM
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Field ReportMr-Metaphor/r/seduction23/02/13 04:19 PM
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Red Pill TheoryMr-Metaphor/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 03:52 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/seduction05/03/13 08:29 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/seduction15/04/13 08:42 PM
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Field ReportMr-Metaphor/r/seduction17/02/13 10:16 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/askTRP27/11/13 07:05 PM
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Field ReportMr-Metaphor/r/seduction04/01/13 07:51 PM
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Mr-Metaphor/r/seduction24/03/13 04:59 PM
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This is the most pickup thing I've seen on here.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 02:32 PM
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They're not tired of it, would you be? Believe me, from experience it seems like they would be bored by it, but that's just how you start a conversation.
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:28 PM
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First, thanks for the long and continued responses. I love bouncing thoughts like this. TL;DR I think my definition is broader than what it actually encapsulates, but what I meant is this. Why just enjoyment, there's so much more then that. I collect unique experiences, firsts as they say. Focusing only on enjoyment is often limiting. It makes you avoid challenges, scary experiences, learning new things, a purposeless life in my view. I value that happiness is it's own purpose as well, but it's …
/r/TheRedPill22/08/15 08:59 PM
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I've been exploring this concept for the past year but my conclusion has been that you only have this life, and that you should strive for the fullest enjoyment of it. Freedom and happiness are the keys to that. Of course you're not going to be 100% self absorbed as if that's the best way to go. You're going to take others into account, but you're going to do that because it profits you in some way, or it makes you feel good. Living for others because you feel morally obliged is something derive…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/15 07:49 PM
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Well, by that account, you're being a slave to bettering the world. There's enough unaware worker bees that I don't have to contribute if I don't want to. You're here only for your lifetime; if you think you will regret that you didn't add anything to the world on your deathbed, by all means help the world out. But in the end happiness and freedom is all that matters to live a fulfilling life, and subjecting yourself to bettering the world as your mission is just being a slave to modern morals.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 01:58 PM
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Why does a man need to take action for others? Look out for others? Leave a legacy? If one's not inclined to do so nor does gain happiness out of it, he's not living for himself is he? He's living for others, the beta mindset.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 01:37 PM
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I guess you're right, I'll delete it. Oh well.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 08:55 PM
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I guess you're right, I'll delete it. Oh well.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 08:55 PM
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Exactly. The drop in the bucket for me was how high up "air conditioning is sexist" was.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 08:47 PM
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I agree, but all these articles state the same every single time. It's not like with game, TRP theory and the like, because with every new angle you look at it you learn more about it and are able to integrate it more into your system. With these subjects however, repetition only leads to indoctrination. Not to expansion of grasping the concept, barely to more knowledge and sometimes to shock value which might sometimes be necessary. I find the mere upvoting and discussing of these subjects over…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 08:43 PM
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I have to say that that's a big problem. But why the need to rant? There's no place for anger phase posts here, we all kind of accepted that.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 08:40 PM
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I mean, it all depends on where you want to go. If you want your own business, you could start right now on the side, eventually drop out. You could also finish your degree so you'd always have something to fall back on. I think in the business sector it's not that important to have the right degree. Think administrative employees turned CEO. If you want to get into medicine, science, research etc though, there's big chances you need qualifications. If I want to run / join a team researching way…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 07:34 PM
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You are most certainly right. Abundance without having to work for it is what has corrupted current society. Think porn, think fast food, think television, think video games, think e-dating, think the internet. It is true most of the work today is busywork. How many tasks are administrative, carried out because the person above you is to busy doing other stuff for other people. It's a socialistic machine. Many western countries make people pay >50% of their income to the state in taxes. And what…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 07:27 PM
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I never heard what the real scores were, for some reason doctors won't tell your your own scores cause there's no conclusions to be had.
/r/TheRedPill17/08/15 05:35 PM
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It's like when I got my T-scores tested. They were above the minimum, which is to say, the minimum an elderly man of about 85 would need to function normally. So yeah, they might be way to low for a guy in his twenties, but you're just measured against the minimally viable or the average.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 08:36 PM
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I guess it all stems from the way the world works right now. There's nothing to really fight for, nothing to work really hard for. With moderate effort comes a comfortable life with little happiness.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 06:06 PM
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I just wanted to comment again, you're exactly right. I'm looking for comfort in that field right now. Don't really know why, so I'm gonna ponder on it a bit. Thank you for making me see that.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 12:12 PM
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I also just commented this to someone else: Well with small business the owner is present most of the time so you'd be able to contact them face to face easily. Also, make some mock ups of sites you could make. I made an extensive webshop that doesn't necessarily work but it looks great. And my first real clients were parents of people I knew. People who run a retail shop, their own one man company, stuff like that. Just charge them 250 bucks in my case and enlarge your portfolio and testimonial…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 12:11 PM
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Well with small business the owner is present most of the time so you'd be able to contact them face to face easily. Also, make some mock ups of sites you could make. I made an extensive webshop that doesn't necessarily work but it looks great. And my first real clients were parents of people I knew. People who run a retail shop, their own one man company, stuff like that. Just charge them 250 bucks in my case and enlarge your portfolio and testimonials. Then you have some websites to show with …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 12:02 PM
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I approached the startups in my town who didn't have a website yet, just check that on Google Maps through the icons in the map, or by googling their name. The other was when people had a really really ugly site that I stumbled upon. I would show them some info about how a better site made conversions, but never talked about that it's ugly. Because that might offend someone's taste, which really easily offends someone personally.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:44 AM
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Yeah I do mind actually, I don't like linking my TRP account to my real life.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:38 AM
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I guess you're right, though I see it as having comfort in one area to be able to focus on the rest. I'm quite happy with my ability with women right now, but it can always use improvement. It's mostly like I said in another comment, I've been with so many women the past half year that maybe I want something different. I think heartiste said it, 6 months relationships and 6 months single. It's just not a focus of where I want to improve right now, it doesn't matter much to me.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 10:37 AM
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Yeah sex is the key motivator, but what I don't see is how escorts > LTR. If you're abundant and you're the captain in a relationship, there's minimal effort if you control yourself and if you don't text them all day. A relationship is much more fulfilling tho, or so I've experienced. I mean emotional bonds, intimate sex, someone to come home to etc > escorts imo. If you're the alpha male in a relationship and set the terms, I feel like it's about the same.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 08:04 PM
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Well yeah, that shit is ingrained in my mind for 2 years now. So I see no harm neither.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 08:01 PM
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Honestly when I was younger I made websites for small startups using some web builder. I can code a bit, but I shine in my taste for design and what looks good. I manipulate Wordpress themes to their fullest to create some stunning yet simple websites, takes me a couple of hours and I charge maybe 5 times less than normal companies, tho my sites look 10 times better. I can't go full WebDev cause that takes a lot of time and revisions, but people who want a quick site get exactly what they want f…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 06:56 PM
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Thanks man, that's some simple though usable advice. Yeah I was comfortable with just doing shit but it kept getting stale. Maybe watching some amateur porn to see it in action a bit more.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 06:54 PM
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Ah I see, no problem. Thanks for getting a conversation going.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:46 PM
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Well to be honest I'm not coming from a scarcity mindset. The past half year I've bedded 5 and been with over 30 women, and I had an even busier life than now. Looking at the numbers tho, been with 30 / bedded 5. Maybe my conversion isn't good enough. What I experience is that a same night lay rarely turns into repeat sex, and just kissing rarely tends to turn into dates / sex when with a girl from the club. So that leaves me in a place where if I would date, I would spend like 3 nights on every…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:45 PM
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Well, not to be rude but that's what I'm trying to say. My schedule is filled with the things listed above. Girls flock to me no problem, but I don't want the girls from my study. So I need drinks, tho I don't have time for them. I'm dating a girl I'm fond of right now, and have been playing with the idea of a LTR as a compliment to my life for a while now. What do you think is best in a situation like this: Loose girls at clubs sometimes, trying to get plates from the nights out, LTR, or someth…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:22 PM
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See; I'm going to have a busy life. Uni student, job in the same work field on the side, gym 3 times a week, making my own food and keeping my diet, building websites for small businesses, seeing my parents every once in a while. It leaves me with having drinks once or twice a week since uni towns are dead on weekends. So my opportunity for sex or acquiring plates is limited, and investing time in chasing pussy seems like a waste. So for me, a girlfriend in town seems like the least resource int…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:13 PM
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Don't know man, doggy never really feels as good as the opposite for me, and I like to see her face when I have sex
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 04:09 PM
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So how do you have good sex? I feel like my sex is kinda stale and mostly locked to missionary, it's emotional tho.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 10:57 AM
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Aren't you interested in buying the premium plan?
/r/TheRedPill03/08/15 09:15 PM
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Hey man, I just wanted to say I enjoyed your post a lot as well. I'm studying a hard science as well but have followed classes about philosophy in the past. I too found that after reading TRP for a while, and after noticing that the world isn't as set in stone as we perceive it to be, that I needed to create my own systems in order to live my life effectively. Both of your posts, concerning power and the model of life (as a man), have been the focus of my thoughts as well. I just want to complim…
/r/TheRedPill26/07/15 10:42 PM
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I would be interested in an explanation of the dread game you used.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/15 06:02 PM
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What kind of meds? I've never found anything
/r/seduction18/06/15 09:58 PM
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What are you trying to reach? Where do you want this to go?
/r/TheRedPill16/06/15 09:42 PM
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You're afraid of being rejected. You know you would like to kiss this girl if you could, but you're just not confident in your abilities to successfully seduce her. You're afraid you'll ruin your chances by trying, which is the biggest paradox of them all. By not taking the risk you lose all your chances. I used to be there, just start trying it. Meet girls through mutual friends, read the book "Models" which only reinforces a positive mindset on you and girls. It's all about you in this life. T…
/r/seduction31/05/15 09:07 PM
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Recognizable, just canceled some plans too
/r/TheRedPill06/04/15 08:25 AM
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You're missing the point completely, willingly.
/r/seduction05/04/15 10:56 AM
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Sounds cool, I'll look into it. Would you advise someone to take this path while they're just starting their master's degree at uni?
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 05:07 PM
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Could you shed some light on your "online income"? I'm interested.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/15 11:19 AM
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There's your answer. You have your friends to talk to, can't have everything you want mate.
/r/seduction06/01/15 09:46 PM
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Drop her
/r/seduction06/01/15 09:39 PM
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Text for as short as possible, just use it for logistics to set up a date. You have a busy life, when you converse you do it in person. Don't snapchat cause you want to impress a girl. Just let it reflect your personality and follow the general guidelines of game. 2 snaps for every 3 of her, don't be needy or validation seeking etc.
/r/seduction26/12/14 09:53 AM
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Sure you might see her again and it might be awkward, just pretend like it all was like it was before the hookup. You shouldn't want to fix what is broken with one girl, at least not if you're this little invested in it. Just go look for new ones and the old ones will start acting normal again. You can't fix it by modifying your behavior, just act normal like you always would.
/r/seduction22/12/14 11:37 AM
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Once you've kissed all you have to do is not fuck up anything major. Not saying you did, but it's always you who makes it awkward, not the girl. Keeping that mentality, what you could've done is just talk some more and kiss some more, or take her to dance somewhere, take her to your friends, take her to her friends, split up for a while to see her later in the evening again. Also, you could've gotten her number after kissing with the idea that you can find her/ she can find you after you split u…
/r/seduction21/12/14 08:38 PM
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It's not so much that the number is what counts, it's you being able to get that number that matters. The caveat is though, the amount of girls you've slept with should be girls that you have an interest in other than purely their vagina. Sure that's an art too, but in the end you're looking for someone who's good in bed and has a nice personality, so having the ability to lay a lot of women is crucial to finding a partner that suits you. It's still nothing to brag about, it's just that it's mad…
/r/seduction21/12/14 08:03 PM
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I get that it works and I agree that how you escalate on the date is what matters, and I honestly have no problem with a little white lie. Also most girls aren't interested in becoming friends with some random guy from Facebook, they're girls, they could be friends with any not confident guy around them. But acting like you want to be friends and then escalating is two things. You're not being genuine about your intentions You're setting yourself up for LJBF dates with girls and just plain waist…
/r/seduction21/12/14 07:23 PM
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If you don't want to become friends don't play it that way. You want a date or a kiss, but you don't want a new friend.
/r/seduction21/12/14 07:01 PM
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I can see why you went back a second time, but there's a big caveat in learning game. You'll always be able to get sub standard women, and you'll want to when you're horny cause you know you can have them. Stop thinking with your dick and start being rational, you'll get into trouble like this way more often of you don't stop thinking with your dick. Whenever you feel yourself getting horny and suddenly thinking about that one meh girl, rub one out and see if you still want to go. Most of the ti…
/r/seduction21/12/14 11:28 AM
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First, congratulations. Second, you did nothing with this post than motivate someone to "just do it", might as well watch a Nike commercial. It would really help if you told the people here what you did to attract the girl, how you initiated the kiss, the sex, etc.
/r/seduction23/11/14 11:54 PM
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he wrote it on his phone for himself, give him a break
/r/TheRedPill22/11/14 10:21 PM
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Look, I get that this works but it's pure pick-up, there's no seduction in this process. It doesn't make girls more attracted to you, it just gives them less of a chance to say no. There's nothing wrong with this method, but it's no way to make a girl genuinely more attracted to you. Kissing her while her eyes are open / she knows what's going on are much more attractive.
/r/seduction09/11/14 01:54 PM
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It's more MGTOW than red pill. Red pill is what works, not what makes you happy.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 12:21 AM
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sup
/r/seduction31/10/14 05:50 PM
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That doesn't make it any less true though. And if no one stops the current generation of behaving this way and no one tells them to watch out for this when they do get children, then there won't be any reason for them not to behave this way.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/14 10:54 AM
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Saving this for later
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 07:14 PM
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I hate I'm commenting to save this
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 02:37 PM
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HB 4 and 4 are the same, it just sounds better to preface it with HB when writing FR's. Closing a girl below your level isn't as impressive and may give you a false sense of what good game is, since the girl might just be attracted to you because of your SMV. Average doesn't matter, if the girl is average but 2 points above your SMV your game needs to be spot on, so the FR would still showcase good game. A guy 4 scoring an HB-6 is the same as a 7 guy scoring a HB-9, since they both need excellen…
/r/seduction20/04/14 12:33 PM
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I guess my balance is a little different, I'm not pouring a lot of effort in, and I get empathy, support, emotional fulfillment and sexual fulfilment in return. What I would get from plates is all that minus the emotional fulfilment and support, because they'd be hesitant to give 100% without achieving monogamy. I guess it's just a tough choice to make, I've done both, and both times the grass seemed greener on the other side.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 05:14 PM
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I've swallowed the pill over a year ago, and spun this plate for about half a year before I got into a LTR with her because I wanted to know everything about her before I chose exclusivity, though she still gives me 'butterflies' every once in a while. It's not that the other women are hotter or more attractive, I guess it's just my biological imperative, the question is if it's ever possible to stay monogamous and be satisfied. I don't know the exact dynamics between you and your wife, but are …
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 04:48 PM
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Thank you for answering our questions Rollo. Your work has brought great clarity to my mind by narrowing down life to it's fundaments, which is the opposite of what our current society is teaching us. I have a question for you that might seem oddly specific, but it is probably something you have experienced as well. So, I'm in an LTR with this girl, which fits my physical and personality requirements and even surpasses them, and she has a lot to offer besides her pussy, she entertains me to no e…
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 04:18 PM
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It would be fine the other way around "happy life, happy wife"
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 03:08 PM
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I have a nice example of a situation where I made my LTR feel physically and emotionally safe. A couple of nights ago we were at a crowded bar together, when I see her getting pale and not being as responsive as she normally is. She's a little more prone than average to pass out, so I knew what was up. I stayed calm, and said 'Let's go outside for a minute.' To which she responded: 'No why, I'm fine!' Now obviously, she just didn't want to look like a pussy, so I said 'I just want to go outside …
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 10:15 AM
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Nah I agree with you completely, I think I came off as opposing to the general idea as described by many here because I disagreed on Patrice's part being one of the best examples proving the point. I really like your visualisation of it as having the market cornered, I know all about SMV but this made me see it in a different light. I guess the process of knowing your pussy is of highest value and accepting it is a process similar to swallowing the red pill, it will cast a grey shadow on love an…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 05:58 PM
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About the other part of my comments, do you think that women realise that their main selling point to men is sex/sexual relations? I feel like women do internally realise this when they're around an alpha male that keeps his woman in uncertainty about his affection for her. What happens when a woman doubts her man's affection? She either gives him the best sex she has to offer when it's an alpha male, and even with a beta male I see women resorting to hugs and kisses.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 05:23 PM
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I think internally women know that sex is the primary resource they have to offer to men, it's just that they won't externally accept it. And I guess there are more factors than just how he steered the conversation, as you said it's a comedy show which doesn't really leave place for a train or rational thought. Most of Patrice's other material is gold though, his stuff on women but also on racism is spot on.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 12:50 PM
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You should read the Book of Pook, it will make you internalise the concept.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 12:45 PM
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I love Patrice, but Ithink this is one of Patrice's worst demonstrations, because he basically leads the audience into replacing the pussy. Of course other sexual ideas come to mind, men would have the same kind of response. If you asked the men what they would do to pleasure their wifes if they had no dick, they would probably answer oral or a dildo as well. I don't believe any man would answer with 'rational conversation' or 'doing the dishes' or something like that. I still do agree that most…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 12:08 PM
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Like you said to each their own, I'm not one to judge, who knows what your past experiences have been that lead you to this point. Nah it's either hormone or physique related. I've seen a sexologist which confirmed that it isn't psychological and am currently running some tests with an urologist. I'm able to have sex, with some effort and warming up, but sometimes my manhood still fails me which is frustrating to say the least, but it makes having sex with strangers scarier because not being abl…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 10:24 PM
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I guess at the point you were at in life the pussy was flowing free and you were stuck with having it once every few weeks, being single would've been better. But after the living situation fell through wouldn't it've been better if you had still been in the relationship? I have my own reasons for choosing an L(D)TR, mainly mild ED at a young age, so having someone I can trust is a must for sex. Also I'm doing one of the toughest studies available here in my country which gives me time to game m…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 10:05 PM
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Yeah I get that, I was doing that half a year before I made it official while still gaming this girl, but I found the amount of chase outside of my familiar circles too much effort to get lays. But I might be influenced by having a mild case of ED which made it very tempting to get into an LTR with a girl who knows about it, it's not something you tell a random lay. When my ED is fixed and this LTR is over I'd definitely stay a free man for a long time tho, spin some plates, but this just fits m…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 09:58 PM
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But deep down they love that she isn't the main focus, if you'd shift your focus to her she would slowly start to resent you, and eventually cheat and then breakup with you.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 09:37 PM
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Honour, Honesty and Integrity are three traits I hold very closely. When I go official with a girl it's because I feel that she would suffice as a standalone relationship, and the only thing I give up for that is that I can't close any more girls. I still get numbers to keep my game sharp but cheating lies beyond my bounds.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 09:34 PM
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See when I hear stories like this, I know that that shit is a shit test but fuck me if stuff like that isn't serious enough to break up over from a man's perspective. You don't test a man if he's still good enough for the relationship by putting the whole relationship on the line.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 12:58 PM
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Still with this gal? I have a 2 hour distance relationship as well, basically see each other every weekend except for the busiest of weeks when we both have no time. Do you feel it's worth it over the freedom of gaming girls to close or do you like the steady supply of sex next to the busy life?
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 12:53 PM
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Haha Beta blocker, that's a nice medicine pun there
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 10:53 PM
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Thanks for your constructive criticism man, guess it's lazy of you not to be aware of that there's some original content in the book.
/r/askTRP31/01/14 11:05 AM
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Girth is measured in a wrap-around fashion, I believe 5.5" length and 5.5" girth are pretty average numbers.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/14 09:28 PM
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man can't wait for some new content from him
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 08:56 PM
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Hey Christian, thanks for replying. I only saw after commenting that you had ended your AMA. I'm actually listening to the last podcast right now, I've been having trouble with the frame, especially the stuff where I'm trying to keep her happy, or when she's unreachable I lose my mental, and go beta. She made a mistake and completely turned her attitude congruent to the first 3 rules, she said I was a prize, she saw things from my frame and I gave her the option not to make the mistake again, or…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 10:36 PM
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what would you say are the most fundamental rules and mindsets for LTR's? I just recently got in one, and I'd be interested in any advice, since it seems to be scarce in the RP community.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 10:07 PM
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Fun story, First weekend I lived here I met some sweet Puertorican-American girl (I know) who was 4 years older than me. She kept asking if I thought she was attractive and stupid shit like that, I told her no. She ran off into the club, said 'oh well there's enough attractive guys in here besides you'. When she later came outside with some guy, I was talking to some girls, and she left the guy and walked up to me. This is what she said "So, do you want to come home with me or what?" Needless to…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 11:38 PM
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Haha exactly, I love this so much. It perfectly lays out SMV and how entitled princess-behaviour is the norm, and when girls don't get it as easy as can be, they get frustrated.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 11:34 PM
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Oh I've never seen that post, then again I've been reading Heartiste since around March so I guess that makes sense, seeing the post title. I'll add it to the main post
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 09:41 PM
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you could say the same about Dread game, and wasn't it nice seeing that scientifically confirmed?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 04:36 PM
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Of course not, no one said I need it. It's just nice to see beliefs backed up by science.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 04:13 PM
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exactly, and seeing it backed up by science is always a fantastic way to be more accepting towards our own behaviour.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/13 03:55 PM
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_whistler: Let me tell you how that's going to happen. You know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? You mope around and concentrate on feeling sorry for yourself instead of making sure you're pleasant to be around, and your fear is a lot more likely to come true. I'm gonna save this one for later
/r/TheRedPill16/12/13 05:22 PM
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"Ex wife" good on you
/r/TheRedPill01/12/13 05:07 PM
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Thanks, I actually think this one will be really useful
/r/askTRP30/11/13 03:37 PM
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Tell that to the copious amount of good girls I've seen cheating over the years, I wish it was as simple but cheating seems to be the standard now among young people. I reasoned that if she knew you'd walk away she wouldn't even try it once, or tell you once. I don't know if that's the way you want to go but still.
/r/askTRP28/11/13 08:38 AM
2

How would you go about this, what kind of frame would you need? I'm quite experienced to spinning plates but have never had a girl actually ask to get serious, I've only heard them say things to friends like 'I'm almost in a relationship right now.' I don't know whether to jump in there or have her ask it.
/r/askTRP27/11/13 10:21 PM
1

And did she?
/r/askTRP27/11/13 08:40 PM
1

This post made me realise how far I've come, you'll be alright just follow the advice posted on here
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 11:08 AM
2

Too real man.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/13 06:57 PM
2

Read most of these, not all though thanks.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/13 12:55 PM
1

The last part isn't really taking the lead and if she had any doubts she could've flaked there, wouldn't it be better to just ask for her number? Or do you mean it more as a calibration type of question?
/r/seduction04/09/13 02:05 PM
7

I know a girl from England, reasonably good looking, not that slutty, and she's had 10 partners at 16. People tend to have more sex at younger age now than they did before, at 25 good looking and sexual girls will have had way more partners than 30 probably, these days at least.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/13 02:45 PM
1

Oh wow, that actually seems like the last piece of the puzzle that I need. Whenever I get more serious because I've met a girl I really like and we really match, I go back to the beta/AFC rituals of before, and it sounds like this will help me do the opposite. Thanks for recommending, I'll pick it up tonight!
/r/seduction04/08/13 07:49 PM
2

Haven't heard of that one, what's it about? I have some spare time on my hands so I'll read it if it's any good.
/r/seduction04/08/13 06:52 PM
1

That's very true, I overlooked that aspect.
/r/seduction04/08/13 05:18 PM
2

Yeah I agree with you partially, because the game shows you only one view of that reality. The routine-based, emotionless view, while there are lots of different ways to approach seduction/pickup. It does give you a nice idea what the path from AFC to PUA looks like, and show you the dangers and fruits of seduction.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:50 PM
-1

But the game doesn't really feel like a manual now, does it? It's more of a story of someone learning than that the book is actually learning seduction to you, I found.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:34 PM
13

I think one should read The Game first to discover all the pros and cons of seduction, then Models to learn how to get success with women in the real world, but also how to achieve happiness. Then read No More Mr. Nice Guy, and if you feel like the book wasn't written for you just drop it, there's not much to learn seduction/pickup wise that isn't in Models. HTWF&IP is great for business but shouldn't be mixed up with seduction, it's good for making friends in the business world and maybe even r…
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:29 PM
3

It was just so eye-opening. I read about 80 pages at a time and was a different man after every session. I really think Book of Pook is what caused my effortlessness in social situations lately.
/r/seduction04/08/13 03:27 PM
21

The Book of Pook is what transformed me, like, it just changed my mindset and view of the world for the better, and I don't think you need much more than that and Models to be succesful.
/r/seduction04/08/13 01:41 PM
1

Most women are white tho
/r/seduction31/07/13 09:12 PM
-1

talk to her about parties, and when she brings up a party she's going to, ask her if you can come and bring a friend. Make up some excuse why you're unsure about going to party tonight, and say you can surely meet her when she invites you.
/r/seduction07/07/13 04:56 PM
3

Glad to help! I hadn't seen it on here before and it was of great help for me so I'm just happy it helped someone else on here!
/r/seduction04/07/13 12:10 PM
2

Did you by any chance find it because of my post? Just curious if I helped someone out majorly! It really is a good vid though, helped me with kino so much and have rewatched it so many times.
/r/seduction03/07/13 08:20 PM
1

I feel the same way, I do better at house parties and daygame/social gatherings than clubs. And in clubs I do better at the more quiet ones. I think it's just your style, Low energy vs. High energy. Do you enjoy danceclubs? If not you're probably just not the outgoing type and your pickup is probably better at houseparties etc.
/r/seduction28/06/13 05:06 PM
1

It's because I'm coming from a scarcity mindset. I need a room because I'm coming from far away, and rooms are so scarce in this city that you should take any room you can get. Since this one is both perfect prize/size wise and I got selected, it should matter to me. I agree with you on not planning it though. I just need a general direction and some answers for the standard interview questions.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 01:11 AM
1

White is average, average face is average, Ginger is con for most and he doesn't dress well. Looks don't matter. If you keep telling yourself that you'll never come anywhere.
/r/seduction26/06/13 01:09 AM
2

Ah I see, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 12:53 AM
2

From what I've heard so far (I talked to one of the female housemates on the phone) they're really looking for a personality that fits their house, not so much the ideal house. Those claims might just miss the point.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 12:48 AM
1

What if I said ginger, average face and 1.85 meters tall? Cause a friend of mine is like that and achieves the same results.
/r/seduction26/06/13 12:46 AM
5

Some girls are better than others. This whole 'no girl is better than the others' stuff is bullshit, otherwise we'd only rate on looks and LTR with the easy/dumb/boring the girls. Of course some are better than others. We look for women who fulfil our emotional desires, when a woman does that more than another, in your reality she is better. If you think I'm wrong, please explain to me why that is. I can't see any flaw in the reasoning and would like to see what is wrong and in turn what's stopp…
/r/seduction26/06/13 12:44 AM
2

Some girls are better than others. This whole 'no girl is better than the others' stuff is bullshit, otherwise we'd only rate on looks and LTR with the easy/dumb/boring the girls. Of course some are better than others. We look for women who fulfil our emotional desires, when a woman does that more than another, in your reality she is better. What the other commenter said would be to de-emotionalize your interactions with women and in turn dehumanize it. Watch out for that, you know what I mean i…
/r/seduction26/06/13 12:40 AM
2

The student female percentage is 70% in this city, its near impossible to find a male house and even more impossible to get into one of those. That said, 'I pay rent in time' doesn't really set me apart from other people. Or you were kidding. Either way not much I can use.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 12:35 AM
3

Cleans his own shit they meant, had to translate it. Room's perfect in every other aspect. Roommates, space/prize ratio and location are golden.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/13 12:23 AM
2

I'm very interested in your 'cool projects', since I have quite a lot of time on my hands right now. Would you mind sharing?
/r/seduction24/06/13 07:30 PM
3

Compared to Models as a seduction guide, The Game is like a tourist guide. I don't see why the Game is posted here as the first thing to read, maybe to see how seduction can go wrong but mystery is such a unique individual that its hard to relate to. Models seems like a much more complete guide.
/r/seduction24/06/13 04:48 PM
3

Yeah same here, when you start to control the frame and your own state things get easy. At least when the seduction principles are in the back of your head.
/r/seduction24/06/13 11:06 AM
2

Thank you, it didn't get much attention sadly .
/r/seduction24/06/13 11:05 AM
3

I have no idea how "self-improvement" is causing you to casually close a bunch of girls. I was doing naked push ups and one of the girls just slipped in underneath me! I meant my seduction-improvement I guess, didn't know a better way to put it ha. I knew the group for a while but never was suave enough to try anything. ...Have you hooked up with her friends yet or not? If not, and if you're asking if you should try hooking up with them to get to her, it's a frakking crazy strategy. It might wor…
/r/seduction23/06/13 10:28 PM
1

Hey Billy, thanks for another awesome guide. I assume self-improvement is showing high value right? What if self-improvement has the consequence of you casually closing several HB-8+ girls from a social-circle of girls, and there's this one girl left in the group, say, the HB-9.5 (including personality). Would that be DHV, you casually closing all her hot friends, or would that work against you? If so, how do you deal with that? You probably picked up this is a personal situation of mine, I dig …
/r/seduction23/06/13 09:41 PM
1

No problem, I think it's from either Models or Book of Pook. Both very good reads!
/r/seduction21/06/13 08:57 PM
2

I've seen it put into words almost perfectly: "Don't rationalize away your desires." When you're making excuses for yourself, feel scared or whatever else may be holding your back in your head, you're just rationalizing away your desires. When you realize that, you can fight it. It's very powerful.
/r/seduction21/06/13 08:22 PM
2

The over thinking is the hardest part to fix while also being the biggest problem for most new people in the community I think. I know it took me a long time to 'fix' it, but it's more becoming rational about your desires I guess.
/r/seduction21/06/13 07:30 PM
2

Thank you!
/r/seduction21/06/13 06:43 PM
1

The same counts for me, I just found it nice to finally see the thoughts I had put into words. It was a wake up call I needed, I visit it around every month now
/r/seduction21/06/13 03:21 AM
0

Its true, all that bullshit is there. But as with everywhere else on the internet, including seddit, you just have to look for the true/useful stuff.
/r/seduction20/06/13 03:02 PM
9

Please read all of this, it will help you a lot I think. I've done my best to write something generic and work with principles, which you should be able to understand. You're 15. It's perfectly normal to not have had sex, not have had a girlfriend and not even having kissed. Just take that in mind when your friends make comments about it. Okay, I was gonna go the other way with this comment, but let me tell you something... At 15 I was in the same situation as you, never kissed a girl, never had…
/r/seduction20/06/13 12:43 PM
5

Thanks for giving me hope girls like that actually exist or will accept to exist, the internet makes it seem like there are none.
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:31 PM
-2

This is spot on, pretty much the stuff I try to take away from edit* /r/theredpill. Do you frequent that subreddit by any chance? Edit: what's with the down votes? If you look at the top post from yesterday they actually said the exact same thing about this as the guy in the parent.
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:30 PM
1

He didn't really explain how to get control over your physiology though..
/r/seduction19/06/13 05:02 PM
10

I'm very interested in this, and mostly the group dynamics part of it. What if your group of friends includes two people you really like and two people you don't, would you act differently towards all people in that group? Would you put up with the two people you don't like?
/r/seduction18/06/13 01:13 PM
2

Hey man, I'm just revisiting this now and you've helped me get back into the game. I've been gaming for half a year now but had a break for about 4 weeks which completely ruined my dancefloor game. Would you happen to have any tips for that? Since everything's so loud, what would be the best thing to say if they aren't slutty enough to just K-close there right on the dancefloor?
/r/seduction02/06/13 06:49 PM
1

Agree and Amplify is the way to go, always!
/r/seduction23/05/13 07:47 PM
1

Thanks man, really thanks a lot, this was the advice I was looking for. I've seen some serious smiles while passing through but had trouble finding a reason to stop and dance with them, this justifies that. I think I can use all of this, really good advice, and different from everything else here.
/r/seduction23/05/13 07:09 PM
1

I think I meant a different kind of circle, more of a clique if you will. Say 5 girls with barely room for an individual in between, you'd have to push some of them to get in the middle, and they'd probably not appreciate that. So its kind of hard to get in front of them.. The image of that did make me laugh though.
/r/seduction23/05/13 06:38 PM
1

Yeah I agree, that has kinda been my stance on the whole dancefloor-approach thing too. I still have trouble with opening girls dancing in a circle/group though, how would you advise on doing that? You cant really open from the front nor the side since there's people on all angles but the back.
/r/seduction23/05/13 06:08 PM
1

You're just gonna make us look stupid by holding our hands weirdly to girls ears, aren't you? Seriously though, this seems good though. What's your opinion on what Frogma said a little bit further in this thread?
/r/seduction23/05/13 04:50 PM
1

Yeah I get your point, it's seen as very pervy/douchy in Europe. I have to admit I was there with most people that it's pervy, I guess it's the aspect of it where the girl won't really know who the guy is/what the guy looks like when first grinding. But if there really is no other option, and you have locked eyes once before, then I guess it's okay as soon as she notices it's the guy she locked eyes with. Thanks for your insight, nice to see some other answer.
/r/seduction23/05/13 03:18 PM
1

I see a lot of responses here, about approaching her when she locks eye contact and stuff, but how do you approach dancing in a circle with their friends? You see that a lot in European clubs nowadays and it makes it hard to open from the front.
/r/seduction23/05/13 01:03 PM
1

Yeah that's my experience here in a smaller city too, it just doesn't work for most 9's and 10's, but they should probably be isolated for conversation right?
/r/seduction20/05/13 08:32 PM
1

Yeah that's pretty much what I've been doing so far, it just seems that I've plateaud for club game now, and I still can't get the solid 9's. I probably just have to isolate them.
/r/seduction20/05/13 08:31 PM
1

This is some serious beta stuff, but how do you fight this kind of behaviour of the girl?
/r/TheRedPill20/05/13 06:33 PM
2

From open to K-close all on the dancefloor is pretty common though, do you feel like there should just be no verbal communication? Most hot girls have slut-shields up for that.
/r/seduction20/05/13 06:01 PM
1

From open to K-close all on the dancefloor is pretty common though, do you feel like there should just be no verbal communication? Most hot girls have slut-shields up for that.
/r/seduction20/05/13 06:00 PM
3

Hey, this is some solid advice. As you seem to be good at this stuff I want to ask you something. On the dancefloor you don't really have the time or sound-levels for conversation, so what would be the best way to verbally escalate?
/r/seduction20/05/13 04:26 PM
9

I fucking hate that deflection...
/r/seduction17/05/13 11:42 AM
3

Love all of it, except this one: Closing challenges - go for a target number of #, K, or F-closes. This could break your outcome independance, which is a key part to gaming. Otherwise good stuff!
/r/seduction10/05/13 08:00 PM
2

It seems very interviewy, how are you proving value?
/r/seduction08/05/13 01:08 PM
2

Yeah that's my mindset. I have trouble isolating well enough since I don't live on my own yet, but it might also be that its looked down upon to go further than kissing on the first night (especially clubbing), now its my job to make them feel otherwise of course.
/r/seduction07/05/13 09:23 PM
136

I have the most reasonable boner right now... Seriously though, this is the part where I get keep hanging most of the time. I have a hard time advancing from kissing, partially due to lack of experience and partially due to logistics. I think I can really up my game after these last two parts in your series, thanks Tofu.
/r/seduction07/05/13 07:23 PM
1

Shit that's awesome, I really like long-term projects, so much more fulfilling. Also, drinks on the house every time now I presume? That state really gets you places.
/r/seduction06/05/13 10:20 PM
1

Ha yeah, I could've stayed in my comfort-zone and stayed in my current city, but I know most interesting girls and clubs, I want some fresh meat and new adventure. BTW, just read the FR, really good stuff. I recognized the state you seemed be in and I have to say, that state makes everything feel like you're on alcohol, it's awesome.
/r/seduction06/05/13 10:10 PM
1

Yeah, I was thinking it was good, it's just the opposite of the advice in this post. But of course seduction isn't a zero sum game. Thanks for the advice, I'll read the FR soon. Do you have any advice on what not to do when building a network of friends? Being fun and getting invited to parties and whatnot seems easy for me, but sometimes people seem to think I 'invade' their social-circle even when I exclusively get invited and don't ask to join them myself.
/r/seduction06/05/13 10:02 PM
6

Good stuff, in about 3/4 months I'll be moving a new city and live on my own. I won't know anything about the city and it's bars/cafe's/venue's, how would you suggest I game in the earlier stages of living there? My first thought would be to have her lead me around since I'm new there, but that doesn't seem very 'provider-ish' or reminiscent of this advice.
/r/seduction06/05/13 08:40 PM
1

Yeah sometimes I dislike that getting to know someone really is a game in the first phases. You both know you enjoy each other, but for the sake of the game you can't let go of all your barriers because it would be too much, even though you want to. Especially with the more confident girls, it's a game of constantly proving yourselves and handling shit-tests, even when you know you like each other.
/r/seduction04/05/13 12:36 PM
4

Another great part Tofu, also if you happen to read this, thanks for kickstarting my course of seduction improvement 4 months ago... I'm actually going out with an HB9 I've always admired for her personality and looks tomorrow. Making her qualify herself really was the base of my interactions with her and many more confident women, it really is a cornerstone aspect of the game. Calibration is still something I need to work on, this might help me with it a lot. Thanks for writing this.
/r/seduction30/04/13 09:00 PM
7

Great shit Tofu, the past parts helped me kickstart my seduction career about 6 months ago, very approachable by beginners. Also, to learn how to keep eye-contact, just try smiling at people while walking down the street. You'll never see them again and it's with real people, not your own reflection.
/r/seduction29/04/13 10:05 PM
2

I completely understand, I don't blame you for it. My first succesful date felt like love-magic, something you wanted to tell all your friends (or internet message-boards) about, because it just feels so good. No problem!
/r/seduction27/04/13 03:55 PM
3

Oh it's no problem! Sometimes all people need is a good story of someone in a relateable situation doing something they perceived as impossible or difficult, and this would be a great story for some. I was just trying to say it tactfully because some other people would just downright criticize you for not posting how you kino'ed, where exactly you touched her etc. (just an example).
/r/seduction27/04/13 03:01 PM
4

Fun read man, I guess this is more motivational than it is a lesson in seduction, but great job anyway! I hope things pan out for you.
/r/seduction27/04/13 01:46 PM
1

Genuinely have fun talking and flirting with women, make it something you enjoy and they will too. I mean that as in, see it as a game. Sometimes the game actually feels like a game, and games are fun. Change up the difficulty every once in a while, have some easy flirts and go for some higher HB's, but always make it fun.
/r/seduction18/04/13 06:25 PM
15

The 'I have drank too much' is probably because she still didn't feel sexual enough when you arrive at your home, or she actually drank too much. I still think that the stopping thing works, maybe do it a little bit more often, maybe try it at your doorstep.
/r/seduction17/04/13 03:26 PM
31

One thing I like to do is while walking just randomly stop her (or when there's a silence), and kiss her, then kiss against a wall or something, stop and say something along the lines of 'the next part is at home'. Sorry if it's unclear, my English hasn't been that good lately, if you need any more elaboration please ask!
/r/seduction17/04/13 02:55 PM
1

It's a combination of all of them practically. I know people who've just never thought of self-improvement and don't consciously take part in it, or people who think improving or changing something bad about yourself is 'changing your personality' which would be a bad thing. I've literally heard someone say: 'I'm bad at dealing with criticism, but well it's part of my personality so I won't change it.' I think that people with that mindset or the people that have no mindset on self-improvement l…
/r/seduction16/04/13 10:17 PM
1

Sorry I should have phrased that differently. I know lots of people that behave well socially but lack lots of skill in some of the departments like seduction/business/friends. I have tons of friends, it's just that they aren't doing self improvement so there's little to no reason that they would improve.
/r/seduction16/04/13 10:26 AM
1

Hey I just reread this comment because I saw all the down votes on my reply to it, I wanted to ask you something. With your first sentence, do you mean that wanting to make someone your girlfriend means you have one-itis?
/r/seduction15/04/13 10:57 PM
-2

Oh it's not one-itis, it just clicks more with her than most girls I know (hundreds) so it's worth the shot imo. And that's true, thanks for the help.
/r/seduction12/04/13 09:12 PM
1

K, cool. I guess I didn't know that order would work. I will, I'll just escalate from the date/get-together and if she isn't responsive stay friends. Thanks for your help. Edit: Also, not friendzoned I think. She keeps evaluating herself towards me telling her how she regretted kissing a friend of mine and how we would be as a couple. Also I don't know her that well and have been different than the usual guys she meets, so I guess that's something.
/r/seduction12/04/13 09:11 PM
1

Hm I've known her for a bit already so starting to be random now would be weird, although my remarks today would allow me for some kissing I guess. I really like her and wouldn't mind her being just a good friend, and I could probably get on a date with her, and turn that romantic. BTW, the day hanging out was centered around something else, but we hang out after and before. So I don't know if your advice is still applicable?
/r/seduction12/04/13 08:08 PM
2

I've spent a whole day with this girl I really dig, we click very well but I can't seem to escalate to a K-close since she responds negatively as opposed to positively to overt kino. I think the only way to go for a K-close is to make it a romantic setting and then kiss, or it would be completely random. Do you guys have any advice?
/r/seduction12/04/13 07:31 PM
1

Oh Emily Rudd, my internet one-itis. On a more serious note, the article is kinda self-explanatory but maybe it's good for newbies to day-game.
/r/seduction08/04/13 08:46 PM
3

I won't make it so I hope you can post my question there: Hi Julien, something I don't see you guys talk about a lot is status. There's a general consensus here that if a guy has the chance to fuck a girl/F-Close her he should. But after a lot of socializing, any girl you hook up with probably has some kind of connection with the other people you know, and this will get your status down. What's the solution for this?
/r/seduction03/04/13 09:07 PM
3

What about status? That's the only worry I have with things like this. "You're only as hot as who you fuck' is real.
/r/seduction02/04/13 05:05 PM
1

Yeah you're totally right, one of my friends cheats all the time too. I don't know where it comes from in people, I'm not judging. And you're right, they're not that impressive. I closes about the same amount last night, and opening ain't shit once you've done enough. The cold reads, conversation and kino that comes afterwards is what's tough.
/r/seduction30/03/13 03:12 PM
5

I'm sorry, but I don't think we should respect people who consciously cheat on their girlfriends. Anyway, your achievements are impressive, but you might be better off single.
/r/seduction30/03/13 02:55 PM
1

It works, I'm gonna FR last night but let's just say... being this eccentric really yields results, as in, 2 K-Closes, 2 #-closes and 3 invites to come home with the girl.
/r/seduction30/03/13 02:31 PM
15

woosh
/r/seduction27/03/13 04:17 PM
1

It used to be like that though. Get your beginner's stuff from the sidebar, read some books and then come back here to go into specifics and FR's.
/r/seduction26/03/13 01:46 PM
3

First off, my condolences. I can't even imagine what you're going through right now. But I just want to repeat this. The only thing your father wants for you is to be as happy as you can be, and the last thing he wants is for his death to be a burden on you. Give it time and try to make the most of it, good luck.
/r/seduction24/03/13 12:42 PM
4

Haha oh well, seems like you had a good time all night and seeing the strippers pay attention to your friend must've been amusing to watch. Sounds like a good night overall!
/r/seduction23/03/13 08:39 PM
24

Great FR Tofu, fun to read and seems like an awesome situation. Did things progress afterwards? Also glad to see you posting on the seddit boards again, we need quality content like yours.
/r/seduction23/03/13 03:34 PM
6

sarcasm
/r/seduction22/03/13 06:27 PM
16

Fun fact: a woman can die if you pee inside her. Really. So yeah... Don't do that
/r/seduction22/03/13 05:58 PM
9

Well, he has described Peacocking in the book, and that's why he wears it. It captures the attention from people around him, and if you dare to walk around in that you must have some social status and confidence. That's what peacocking is and that's why he does it, has nothing to do with his looks.
/r/seduction22/03/13 01:00 PM
57

Woosh
/r/seduction22/03/13 12:59 PM
1

'The forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest' is what comes in to play here.
/r/seduction20/03/13 08:27 PM
19

I'd rather have rejections than regrets. Rejections you can learn from and analyze to the smallest detail if you want to, you can find your mistakes. Regrets just sting and the only thing you think about is, what if I had taken action? Just my 2 cents though
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:39 PM
1

Yeah, I've been viewing it like that too and the thing is, they actually don't have a chance with her, she actually has standards etc. I think that's a sign of a powerful woman, I hope you find one.
/r/seduction19/03/13 05:24 PM
3

What advice? And what can we take away from this?
/r/seduction19/03/13 05:23 PM
1

I don't need to convince you, people have already given me the advice I needed. Anyway, I want to enlighten you a bit because, of course, you don't have all the details, and I will never be able to give you them because they're just experiences I've had. She really handles situations exceptionally, as in, I've flirted with ~80 girls in the club the past 3 months, and no one has handled things like this. I'm just curious how and why she thinks like she does, I'm just interested in her as a person…
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:26 PM
1

Well like I explained, and you've said, there are exceptional people. She's exceptional in the way she handles flirting and attention and game, that's the only way in which I think she's exceptional. If you take the time to read the rest of my comments here you will see I'm not placing her on a pedestal, not raising her above me nor seeing her as higher value. She's interesting to me because she's hard to figure out and has a nice personality. If it doesn't work out I won't care, but trying to g…
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:03 PM
1

Ah I see, thanks.
/r/seduction19/03/13 02:43 PM
3

I'm very interested as I share your motivations, good luck!
/r/seduction19/03/13 02:43 PM
1

I wanted to register as that, but apparently you were the one that had taken it already ):
/r/seduction19/03/13 02:42 PM
1

Yeah that's been my approach up unto this point too, even displaying how I absolutely don't care she could like someone else. Good luck with her.
/r/seduction19/03/13 08:27 AM
1

Yeah, all I can say to you is don't make a move, just do the passive stuff like eyefucking. At some point she will turn around and if she doesn't, it's just impossible. Thanks, and good luck to you too.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:29 PM
4

Yeah I think this is gonna be it, slightly increase the kino and flirtiness constantly, and with every hesitation of her just keep back and prove some more value and social value. Thanks for your insight.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:42 PM
1

Yeah, there's some line I've got to draw. I want to get to know her deeper, I want to figure her out. I think I can make it happen, just break down her walls brick by brick. Thanks for your advice, I kinda forgot about how someone like this can drag you with her emotionally.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:41 PM
2

Oh, I think I can. I've been projecting myself as higher value and now that's she's asking me permission for stuff etc, I'm seeing myself as higher value too. I was just referring to the fact that she 'acts' differently, in that she isn't attracted to the normal game you learn on here. Even if you have solid game she becomes unattracted, because she can see your interest in her.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:38 PM
1

Could you elaborate on 'value by proxy'?
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:36 PM
1

haha wow, that was... unexpected. Anyway, I meant the moment where Tom says that he's breaking her walls down bit by bit, up to the point where Summer tells him 'I've never told anyone this.' It has probably to do with comfort over anything, we'll see how it goes.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:18 PM
0

She might be into those guys, but that's not really it I think. She gets attention from those kind of guys too, but she just rejects them in the end. She's plays a game because she knows she'll get the attention anyway, she's gorgeous with a good personality, she just doesn't let anyone near it. She reminds me of Summer from 500 days of Summer sometimes. I think she's fragile, but has her walls up.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:07 PM
14

Just accept it, my ex was like this and just wasn't the type to kiss in public or hold hands. It's not that they're ashamed of you, most of the time it has to do with feeling vulnerable or being judged. Maybe you can play into that, but be gentle with it.
/r/seduction18/03/13 05:29 PM
13

There's this exceptional girl I know who's different from every girl I met, let me explain: This girl responds to advances you make as long as you are 'okay' at game, she will respond, act kinda interested, accept getting a drink at the bar with you, maybe even some dancing. But in the end, she doesn't kiss you, and just returns to her friends. Now I've observed that happening before I made my moves, which has made me exceptional to her. I don't flirt with her, the only thing I do is eyefuck and…
/r/seduction18/03/13 05:28 PM
1

I reported some of the comments, but messaging the mods would probably be better
/r/seduction18/03/13 03:25 PM
2

No problem, I just want to see this subreddit return to its former glory, and reporting people like this could help that. Also, please don't feed the trolls :)
/r/seduction18/03/13 02:51 PM
10

Don't listen to Casper94, he's been posting superficial comments on here a lot lately and none of them add any value or provide constructive criticism.
/r/seduction18/03/13 02:11 PM
6

This guy speaks the truth, just practice and go through the experience a lot. Think of how you'll feel about her in 2 weeks if nothing happens, and you'll be way more neutral.
/r/seduction17/03/13 06:28 PM
7

why are you here?
/r/seduction17/03/13 10:36 AM
2

Just trying to understand you here but why are they more impressive?
/r/seduction16/03/13 11:13 PM
3

They don't seem to work at all though.
/r/seduction16/03/13 09:46 PM
1

Max Tietje?
/r/seduction11/03/13 08:30 AM
1

oh okay, I might try it then. their responses don't seem as a direct response to your question sometimes, and it's kinda weird as if you're imagining a conversation that you two could have, I was expecting you to say 'you're cute', after she responded what she would do.
/r/seduction10/03/13 10:55 PM
1

Do you always use this opener? It's kinda vague in my opinion, you're not being direct but kinda letting shine through you think it's cute.
/r/seduction10/03/13 10:46 PM
2

Oh I know, I wasn't criticizing it. It's just that if it would be posted every couple of weeks we'd only have rehashed material after a while.
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:42 PM
1

You don't have to fall back to money and other materialistic things. You can provide value in many other ways and you can demonstrate value in social and lifestyle ways.
/r/seduction06/03/13 09:53 AM
2

That's a good DHV story, and the DHV spikers are the moments in a story where you show you're a person of high value. For example by showing you're social, do exciting things and are passionate about your interests. That's what a DHV story consists of, examples of your high value and a good story overall. But what provides value is what the other guy in the thread said, read his comment.
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:15 AM
1

You really hit the nail on the head there, I hope this helps people.
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:06 AM
1

This is a story with DHV spikes, but you're providing value with the story, not the spikes. You only show you're of high value with the spikes.
/r/seduction06/03/13 08:04 AM
2

Value in the seduction and PUA community means something entirely different, that should be apparent if you've read and watched most of the basic stuff
/r/seduction06/03/13 07:59 AM
1

Solid move, if you've been getting IOI's and you're already having physical contact, a pause + eye contact + smile is all you need for the kiss. Thanks for elaborating, I hope it helps people.
/r/seduction03/03/13 07:05 PM
1

You should elaborate more on how you initiated the kiss, that part seems mighty short relative to the rest of your FR.
/r/seduction03/03/13 06:23 PM
1

Haha oh wow that must not've been a fun night
/r/seduction01/03/13 10:13 PM
1

Haha no, I don't even know where that is, why?
/r/seduction01/03/13 09:26 AM
1

If you think that conversation is great, why not just make it without all the fake excuses?
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:38 PM
3

No problem, what I meant to say was that it seemed to her that you had no friends, as you kinda implied you needed her company.
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:42 PM
8

You remind me a lot of me around 2 years ago. You seem to be learning how not to give a fuck, which is very important. But the most lacking part is confidence. You stumbled over your words as it seems and there were silences that you find awkward, but which could easily be turned into great moments with confidence. Also, you don't seem the provide any value in this interaction, by saying your friend left you demonstrate low value because apparently there's no other people you know there, so try …
/r/seduction23/02/13 07:16 PM
1

This is the FR, do you still think comfort and timebridging are the problem? http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1930eh/fr_by_request_kclose_that_felt_really_natural_and/
/r/seduction23/02/13 06:44 PM
1

Here is the FR with details http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1930eh/fr_by_request_kclose_that_felt_really_natural_and/
/r/seduction23/02/13 06:44 PM
2

Linked! http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1930eh/fr_by_request_kclose_that_felt_really_natural_and/
/r/seduction23/02/13 06:43 PM
1

Haha exactly, well the house parties here are more a pre-game kinda thing so it's hard to take someone upstairs, though it is possible. But for the sake of possibility,I'm taking a condom with me tonight.
/r/seduction23/02/13 06:38 PM
1

Ha so would I, but at this time my best chance at pickup sex would be doing someone in an alley in the city, since no one here has his/her own apartment or car. I'm on the younger side of 20 still
/r/seduction23/02/13 06:28 PM
6

The FR turned out pretty long, because the guys asking for this FR asked for the details, so I hope this is pretty complete. If you have any questions about this FR or the previous, please ask! Edit: If you downvote please explain why, I'm in this community for self improvement so I want to get better at what I do badly now.
/r/seduction23/02/13 04:23 PM
2

FR coming today
/r/seduction23/02/13 11:24 AM
3

Ah, so proposing dates and telling more about my personal life would build that comfort? I will look for your submission soon. Thanks
/r/seduction22/02/13 11:47 PM
9

What is timebridging? Hm, not enough comfort might be it, but when the girl wants to hug and kiss me when I'm going for the night etc I feel like I've built enough comfort. How would you suggest building even more?
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:54 PM
5

I don't think it is, they really like me and I'm not a bad kisser I've heard, they throw compliments at me all night. Anyway, I'll write an FR on this one too.
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:08 PM
10

Why do girls seem way less interested in me the day after I K-Closed them in the city? This almost always happens. My possible answers for this would be: She only wanted it for one night and doesn't appreciate attention the day after. My text/chat interactions aren't good (I just talk about last night and build some rapport most of the time) Do you guys have any other idea's?
/r/seduction22/02/13 09:11 PM
1

I think I've heard it from Mystery even, but it's a good way. I wouldn't use this in dancefloor settings though, because you lose eye contact while asking it if she's leaning into you or you into her.
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:48 PM
2

Well that's what happens when something gets too big and somethings on the internet...
/r/seduction18/02/13 11:48 PM
1

Hey thank you, I'm glad you've had succes with it. Game on. I've deleted the post because I was getting shit from AFC's who feel like this is canned, when that's not at all what this opener is about.
/r/seduction18/02/13 11:20 PM
1

np! It most of the time comes up when they ask what I think of a girl and I rate her with a number.
/r/seduction18/02/13 08:28 PM
1

It doesn't matter what you say as your opener, but in this case the opener itself leads to conversation which is my reason for posting this. The conversation is what matters and the opener will be forgotten.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:50 PM
0

That's probably true, and it probably depends on the girl. It's not canned like say this say that, you still have to calibrate to the girl. But that speaks for itself I think.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:31 PM
0

The thing is, you have to use it when you mean it. when her name is Roxanne you don't say she has a timid name. Anyway, it has worked for me, maybe it's because the girls my age don't really come in contact with canned openers, and not that this is one since you just lead it into genuine conversation.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:30 PM
1

No it's something I sometimes talk about with good ladyfriends of mine, it's come up 3 or 4 times over the past year as we were talking about self improvement and stuff.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:17 PM
1

I don't want to give away my real age, but around 20.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:16 PM
0

Well, I guess we have to agree to disagree here. I've used this approach a lot of times and had succes 90% of the time with them. Opener doesn't matter as long as you do it confidently, is something you hear here a lot and this opener just threads to conversation.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:15 PM
3

I would take a whole different approach from there. Instead of going on about crazy stuff I would take her apart and just have a good talk. Say something like, 'well I guess looks can be deceiving' and just start about something else.
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:14 PM
2

That would create an friendly and comfortable setting, which would be indirect. This makes your intentions clear, does a cold read and can quickly turn into a sexual setting. It's a matter of preference imo.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:25 PM
2

Very true, then you take the lead more, but if she's asking you anyway there's no problem in that.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:23 PM
3

that's a cool one, takes confidence and also does the misinterpretation technique kinda, the one tyler talks about.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:23 PM
3

Will the people that downvote please give their criticism on why this should be downvoted? I'm trying to learn and this opener has worked every time for me so far.
/r/seduction18/02/13 05:09 PM
1

Ha that's cool, I wouldn't start using that as a move though. When girls comment on stuff they're probably either making fun of you or into you, you better assume the last.
/r/seduction18/02/13 03:08 PM
1

I might date her but she just came from a relationship 2-3 weeks ago, I might see her at a party this thursday though and then I will discuss some stuff with her. I did number close, talked to her for a bit today, just some simple Q&A and rapport building.
/r/seduction17/02/13 11:49 PM
2

If you have any questions about details or something about my progress, please ask! I felt that if I'd had put everything in the FR it would've become too long.
/r/seduction17/02/13 11:06 PM
4

He's who you see in the video's. Why wouldn't he have changed?
/r/seduction17/02/13 06:22 PM
3

You didn't want him to post this because it's so good or because girls will read it? Girls do it themselves consciously too, nothing new for them here.
/r/seduction17/02/13 03:13 PM
3

Weren't you the one who put your tips file online? That really helped me past saturday and I wanted to thank you for that. In response to OP's FR, this really is what it's all about, the interaction between the man and the woman, not about picking up some chick to bang.
/r/seduction05/02/13 10:01 PM
10

He's changed tremendously after 'The Game', he also changed a lot since his first RSD stuff.
/r/seduction31/01/13 03:25 PM
1

The most important part is not watching porn, but if you're pretty sure your sexual fatigue is caused by porn then just stopping watching porn is not enough, you'll have to stop fapping for a consecutive 90 days, which is fucking hard but worth it in the end.
/r/seduction24/01/13 10:12 AM
1

Its not about me caring, its about other girls caring, seeing me as a player or them thinking I'm below their level because I hook up with lesser girls, its assumptions by them that work against me.
/r/seduction23/01/13 03:54 PM
2

I have a question about that, should you have sex with girls you wouldn't normally do anything with, just because they want sex? As the amount of friends I have has increased everyone seems to know who I've hooked up with and it's not good for your image to have slept with girls below your 'level'.
/r/seduction23/01/13 01:59 PM
6

I can't recommend /r/NoFap and /r/Pornfree enough, if you combine these to and really pull through with them, they will fix your problems. Your sex drive will be up like crazy after a while, and you will see women as the only source of sex and sexual relief, which is how it should be. Also, porn really makes you less attracted to women, so stop the porn, you don't/shouldn't need it. After 90 days of NoFap you won't need it anymore definitely.
/r/seduction23/01/13 01:57 PM
1

One question btw, what are some good DHV's for when you're 18?
/r/seduction18/01/13 03:07 PM
6

This is really what I've been looking for, gotta put my qualification to the test saturday
/r/seduction17/01/13 08:49 PM
3

Yeah it's certainly possible, when you've made the decision that it's never gonna work between you two or that it's just not possible you two are gonna make out at some point, otherwise temptation will be there I think.
/r/seduction17/01/13 02:53 PM
2

Well, there must be some pretty or nice girls that you don't find attractive. You might be a version of that of the opposite sex for her
/r/seduction15/01/13 04:54 PM
1

Thank you for this, I can really see myself in here and see how being 'too nice' or 'emotional' can be repulsive to feminine women, who I totally desire. I will read 'The way of the superior man' when I finish Dale Carnegie's book.
/r/seduction08/01/13 07:28 PM
5

I hope you're being sarcastic
/r/seduction07/01/13 07:44 PM
1

I should get a new job... Thanks!
/r/seduction06/01/13 09:27 PM
1

Awesome progress! One question, how did you meet new friends? My current social circle is fucking me over so I'd love to make some new ones.
/r/seduction06/01/13 08:49 PM
1

Yeah it sure is exciting, gonna have some fun tonight in a dance club. I will remember the hip bouncing as an ioi
/r/seduction05/01/13 06:56 PM
1

Yeah I hope I can repeat it tonight, but with less alcohol. Maybe I can do some cold approaches or situational openers, I've got my wingman with me.
/r/seduction05/01/13 05:21 PM
1

I still live with my parents so that wasn't really in the picture, I can't wait to have my own apartment next year, will be awesome. Maybe I could've escalated a bit more for some bathroom action but I think she was too classy for that stuff.
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:17 PM
1

That's what it felt like too, like I was in control over every single thing I did and she did, without even having to think about it. And that's my only regret haha, that I drank to much and therefore lost some of the details.
/r/seduction05/01/13 03:12 PM
3

'Thank you seddit for giving me the tools to connect with people. My personality has stayed the same, while you guys taught me how to express it.' my thoughts completely, bravo
/r/seduction05/01/13 01:41 PM
3

It's good to see you know your mistakes, you won't make them again next time, I promise you. Also good confidence in just asking her to dance, was she on her own?
/r/seduction05/01/13 01:38 PM
2

Me too and I'm totally not commenting to save this for later
/r/seduction05/01/13 11:44 AM
1

Don't you feel like befriending someone on Facebook could get you more easily invited to other parties or other social activities she has? Not for her but to meet new people.
/r/seduction04/01/13 10:14 PM
1

You know what, I totally would've put money on the k-close before entering the club. And if you think about it, if I were in my head and not in state I would've been thinking about how I would do it, what to say, how to dance. It wouldn't have gone the same
/r/seduction04/01/13 09:39 PM
2

I think they cancel each other out. Both statements are right, you need to be passionate about your hobbies but you also don't want to demonstrate lower value. According to the seddit community programming and gaming show lower value, and being passionate about them demonstrates higher value, so they cancel each other out.
/r/seduction04/01/13 09:21 PM
5

Long Island Ice Tea
/r/seduction04/01/13 09:19 PM
1

Yeah I think so too, but I find dance floor game to be really difficult. How did you open the dancing girl and the group of dancing people/girls? I always find it awkward to open a group of dancing people on my own
/r/seduction03/01/13 12:25 AM
1

Thanks for the repsonse, very elaborate. I'll be practicing daygame and nightgame tomorrow, and probably saturday nightgame too so we'll see what I can learn from that.
/r/seduction02/01/13 10:51 PM
2

I think if you'd ask him if he wants to hang out in a non-school related setting your intentions will be clear to him. You'd have to escalate kino when you're meeting up then too, so he knows you want more than just to be friends. Or you could be really direct and ask him out on a date, guys love that stuff.
/r/seduction02/01/13 09:27 PM
5

I feel like I stick to most points here, but sometimes you get a cold response, or a very short one. What do you do in those cases? Switch from talking to doing something else? or just bail that person/set?
/r/seduction02/01/13 09:22 PM
6

Wow, I'm really impressed by you doing all that in one night! Also, this is the first time I read someone talking about danceclub game, which I find really difficult because it's hard to be funny or even say anything at all. But what you accomplished by body language, and even opening a whole group, that's awesome.
/r/seduction02/01/13 03:43 PM
2

Well then it's a whole different story haha. But something to work on isn't it?
/r/seduction31/12/12 11:12 AM
2

Thanks for the FR, it's the final motivation I need I think.
/r/seduction31/12/12 01:48 AM
4

Never expected that from someone like you, just go and have fun man! It doesn't matter if it looks like shit, it's not like you're a performer.
/r/seduction31/12/12 01:47 AM
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