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Not to put you on the spot, but can you give examples?
/r/MensRights02/02/15 10:26 PM
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of a male subject matter
/r/MensRights02/02/15 09:34 PM
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Sarkeesian is engaging a population in the millions and I would say that when dealing with such a large population that you are guaranteed to have toxic individuals within that population, regardless of the social strata of that population. Within her engagement she has made comments numerous times about the mentality, assumptions, and overall character of that population; she is a social critic, not a media critic. The comments that she has made could be understood as equally deplorable were it…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 06:48 PM
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"It is an inevitability with a population of millions when one is in the spotlight" is not synonymous with "she deserves it"
/r/MensRights28/01/15 06:38 PM
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I think you mean... legitimate rape
/r/MensRights29/10/14 07:44 AM
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I wish it were better written on how being there can help your kid, rather than helping mom.
/r/MensRights30/09/14 10:22 PM
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A lot of labeling in the high school and college levels of academia is merely to maintain class standards. There was a study that found "slut" was often dropped by upper-class students on lower-class students, but not among their peers for the same activities. It would seem logical that the "creep" and the "slut" are similar in social standing.
/r/MensRights13/09/14 07:41 PM
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I thought your argument was well reasoned and debated. Especially enjoy that you appreciate that to sexualize a woman's chest you must also sexualize men's chest.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 01:09 AM
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Now lets extend this further to other problems of life. The friendzone phenomenon, catcalling, and other social issues are not always simply the guy wants sex, but perhaps he wants a relationship. Death to the stereotype of the horn dog male.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 12:39 PM
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He's not being charged with assault guys, he's being charged with delinquency of a minor and sex with a minor. This story is changing from article to article. There is a lot of misinformation going around.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 07:36 AM
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Yes. Why the fuck would an MRA care who you fuck?
/r/MensRights27/07/14 03:25 PM
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/facepalm go back to red pill
/r/MensRights27/07/14 03:24 PM
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Well, what if you have two groups that are oppressed by the social roles they instill on each other. Wouldn't that mean you can fight the oppression via critical analysis without any concept of equality?
/r/MensRights24/07/14 10:21 AM
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Cool commercial, never forget that they want to sell you shit.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 09:54 PM
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getting drunk is not an activity, it is a result of taking an activity to excess. Or put shit in them. You shouldn't leave your drink at a bar because that's just dumb. Oh, please, do go on. These neighborhoods, how would you identify them? "urban"? If my landlord is creepy, i don't like talking to them either. ... Really? Because I have had several friends and someone I didn't even know do it. Sorry to hear that? k... and neither do I? k... No one should wear flimsy clothing, lmfao True...for a…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 01:01 PM
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The long short of it, they have internalized their gender role, their social script. "Men are lucky to get sex"
/r/MensRights07/07/14 12:54 PM
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I completely disagree with this article - taking examples of a twitter debate and one university society? Speaking as a (female) feminist, I have a huge circle of male and female feminist friends, the latter who would never say anything "man-hating". I think this is just a very few people blown out of proportion. The mainstream feminists are fine. So are you trying to say not all feminists are like that? #yesallmen
/r/MensRights07/07/14 05:13 AM
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my sweet and sour... nice racism
/r/MensRights05/07/14 02:40 PM
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Who said he can't be attracted? He said he is aware that he will remember a woman, but not a man. He didn't say it was wrong. He said it was sexist, and he is aware of it. Now you have to ask, what could he do to correct said sexism? Well, try to remember everyone, that's about it.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 06:32 AM
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He didnt say oppressor, he said sexist and he's absolutely correct. He is being sexist.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 01:52 AM
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The suggestion that insults intended to emasculate their target are necessarily calling him a woman is adhering to a weak, gender binary system.
/r/MensRights29/06/14 02:36 PM
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oh misunderstood
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:03 PM
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It's not sarcasm
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:19 PM
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To elucidate, think of it as the concept of "women" rather than as the people "women"
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:18 PM
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unnecessary gender wars, lovely
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:15 PM
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I like to liken it to a scenario. Imagine you and a friend go out to a party. When you get to the door your friend walks right in, but the owner of the establishment stops you and says, "hold on, you need to sign this waiver that says you agree that at any point and time I can shoot you. Oh, but don't worry, I probably wont shoot you. If it ever came to it, I'd ask for volunteers. You still need to sign the waiver though." When you ask why your friend didn't have to sign, the owner says "Oh her?…
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:01 AM
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A dark horse is a little-known person or thing that emerges to prominence, especially in a competition of some sort or a contestant that seems unlikely to succeed. You would attack a dark horse if you were afraid they were going to win. They need to choose their names better.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 03:15 PM
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Mm I think it depends. If you're talking trolls as in real trolls, people who just want to fuck with you, i'd say probably more male population. But hateful vitriol? I'd totally believe more women. Think how girls and boys approach conflict in high school...
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:36 PM
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Overly simplified definition of patriarchal theory. Even if it is what many of the public believe it to mean, he's discussing feminism as a whole when using the definition, so I find his response to be flawed.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 01:57 AM
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I have no problem with lower reproduction rates.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 02:44 AM
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The change in the title just makes the article stupid now. "Some dude thinks his girlfriend talks to much, NEWS AT 11"
/r/MensRights07/06/14 01:04 AM
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I agree with you, Sharou. But, the strawmen MRA fight against are not a result of their own fabrication. They are a result of very very misguided individuals claiming themselves as feminists, but not fully understanding what patriarchy is. Just yesterday I saw a lovely facebook post about "smashing the patriarchy" which used a unit of measure of "men's tears" to describe how smashed it was. What definition do you think the author of the post was using of patriarchy if success is found in the cry…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 12:59 AM
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http://xkcd.com/385/ How it really works "My girlfriend talks to much" "How dare you say all women talk to much"
/r/MensRights05/06/14 11:56 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug under "Media coverage and moral panic aspects", sources are provided
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:08 PM
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We have an individual who absorbed the social narrative "If you get the car and the cash you will get the girl". He then got frustrated and said "Well I got the car and the cash, why don't I automatically get the girl?" Why are we responding "Dude, you don't automatically get the girl, girls are not prizes" (while true) rather than "Dude, why is it all you care about is getting the girl?" Have we absorbed within ourselves that the "your status as a human being is based around getting the girl", …
/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:34 PM
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I would, perhaps, agree to a perspective that he took American ideals of masculinity to a very dark, twisted path, but I don't think it was completely disconnected from it.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 04:10 PM
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So how exactly does this news anchor know it?
/r/MensRights25/05/14 07:04 PM
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No, does someone have it so I can read it.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 10:38 AM
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Does anyone have his internet history?
/r/MensRights25/05/14 10:32 AM
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What is the most logic reason for what? For them to get in a fight? For one to push the other? Any answer would not be an answer of logic, it would be a jumping to conclusion fallacy. The only answer is no answer.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 01:54 PM
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Speaking of which, whoever is enjoying the recreation of mantenance this week, can we please seperate the gold and wine? I know we hiveminded a decision that it would be more convenient, but people, and by people I of course mean real people, are dying.
/r/MensRights22/04/14 01:58 AM
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Tis true, but that doesn't mean I throw out my standard of statistics.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 10:24 PM
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284 individuals? Small study is small.
/r/MensRights11/04/14 08:16 PM
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I find the choice of theme hilarious. One day a photographer — representing the United Press — came to the factory Geraldine was working at, and caught a picture of Geraldine leaning over a piece of machinery while wearing a red and white polka-dotted bandanna over her hair. In early 1942, the Westinghouse Company commissioned artist J. H. Miller to make several morale-boosting posters to be displayed inside its buildings. This project was funded by the United States government as a way to motiv…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 11:10 AM
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If you think exposing more skin is automatically more effective at keeping you cool, you are using flawed logic. If you think binding short shorts are more effective at keeping you cool then open long shorts, you are using flawed logic.
/r/MensRights05/04/14 04:32 PM
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If only your narrative were true, I would not have had to suffer the croc blight of my educational career. I have never heard nor seen any population of a student body ask for a uniform due to inappropriate clothing. A far more likely reading of the sign is that its purveyor finds the root of the issue to be that womens legs are sexualized by society, including teachers and students, and thus a desexualization would render the ban unnecessary. Again, you're letting your persecution narrative get…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 09:40 PM
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I must be mistake, we must be viewing two different images. Would you like to read it and try again? http://i.imgur.com/8bTXSqq.jpg Are the boys of the student body somehow enforcing the ban?
/r/MensRights04/04/14 09:02 PM
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What is the sign asking the enforcers of the ban to do?
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:54 PM
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either way I think the act is stupid. It is not the place of a school system with a volunteer "judicial" system to pass judgement on students in cases of law. STOP the kangaroo courts and bring them to the federal system.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:31 PM
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Your reading is...unusual. When most people discuss sexualization it has very very little to do with vulgarity, rather, that they are attaching a sexualized nature to something that is not normally sexual. I can almost guarantee you the boys of the school are not seeing the legs as vulgar. Furthermore, the reasoning behind dress codes of this nature in schools almost never is "It's vulgar", but rather that it distracts the male students from their studies. It's not that the male students are goi…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 08:17 PM
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Do you hold the door for men as well? Then it's not sexist. Do you hold the door exclusively for women? It's sexist.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 09:24 AM
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The image need not be a comment on society as a whole, merely the microcosm of the school. Whoever posted the image is saying "Boys need to stop looking at women" instead of saying "Girls can wear what they want, boys can look at who they want"
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:38 PM
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The issue, as I see it, is the conversation this sign creates puts the onus on men, that they are wrong for looking, rather than dropping the onus completely.; there is no wrong.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 06:57 PM
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The picture, and thus this conversation, does not address sexual harassment at all. The picture discusses sexualization.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:29 PM
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What I find amusing about these arguments (or anything that suggests "we wear it for ourselves" or "we wear it because it's comfortable) is that the subject has not explored their own understanding. First, the we wear it because it's comfortable in the summer is a load. Long shorts or a dress are just as comfortable as short shorts. The subject must also wears them because they are fashionable/they like them. So we get to "we wear it for ourselves" So, you wear them for yourselves, you think you…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:24 PM
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I can't believe[...] why? It also has to be within the context of someone entering the discussion as "I'm a guy and so..." as opposed to it coming up offhand.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 06:01 AM
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The group of hens that live in PTA meetings and school carpools. "Did you see what that little tramp Mary wore to the spring dance? Hussy is going nowhere near my son."
/r/MensRights16/03/14 06:42 PM
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What makes you think puritanical thinking is not preached by mostly women? Yes, often it is a man leading the sermon, but it's mothers who make sure their family goes to church. It is the "mother's council" which dictate what is decent. It is the mother's council which extend quotes from the bible like a parent saying "because i said so"
/r/MensRights16/03/14 03:19 PM
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Return of kings is a shitty site that doesnt belong here.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 03:17 PM
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What? No, its hypothetical. Would it be ok to have "rape all the women" if there was context
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:43 PM
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No one is going to think women need to look like barbie or kasumi. No one is going to think women actually act like pornstars in bed.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:36 PM
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Defending with context. "Tywin didnt mean literally rape all the women, he meant destroy the starks utterly and completely".
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:33 PM
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Barbie is just a toy doa beach vollyball is just a game. girls gone wild is just a video
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:21 PM
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I said im aware of context. The existing of context does not make it ok. If Rape all the women was a phrase said by Tywin, would it be a good idea to use it as the seasons catchphrase?
/r/MensRights14/03/14 11:00 PM
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As i said, I understand the context (btw, its significance is not in khalessi, but "valar morghulis", repeated by Anya and associated with the many face god). They really need an "All men must serve" complementary. However we are defending this with context, what of the individuals who dont watch GoT and are just seeing All men must die everywhere. You cant say its nothing lije the hypothetical on the basis of context as I established thst the hypothetical had context.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:55 PM
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So LA is current covered in adverts like the above. Posters, bus coverings, etc. I understand the context, but it seems like this is bad form. Would it be ok to have "Rape all the women" posters if it was in context?
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:31 PM
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There is quite a difference between working for a living and sacrificing your life for work.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 05:31 PM
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It's in most peoples' heads. That doesn't make it correct. Men are fine. Masculinity is fine. All men must be masculine is not fine. Are you really in a post-structualist reddit using conformity as the basis of your arguement? Maybe if we didn't lump these traits together and give them a name commonly associated with the male sex we wouldn't face quite the gender role problem that we do now. Honestly, why even entertain the concept of masculinity vs. femininity? Lumping them together is not a pr…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:17 PM
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Masculinity is not synonymous with the male sex, such a direct connection is a result of strict gender roles and is merely in your head; a woman can be masculine. Masculinity is just a set of traits we have lumped together and thus why it is used in this article, because the issue is that lump of traits. Delineate patriarchy and strict gender roles. Patriarchy is societies perchance to elevate what we call masculine traits and suppress feminine traits. Strict gender roles dictate that a person w…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 03:05 PM
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While your idea is sound, placing it in the realm of biology seems like a jump.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 02:14 PM
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Beautifully made connection to display how it is society at large that enforce destructive gender roles.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 01:50 PM
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I ponder if this is due to women's late introduction into the work force. Society has taught women a simulation of what it means to be a working man, rather than what it actually means and thus they adhere to the simulation, working 9 to 5, rather than realizing that the reason people often worked 9 to 5 was because that was the required time to get the job done.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 01:44 PM
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I disagree on your initial position, they very much used the correct term and in my opinion, it is the common discourse within internet gender discussion that has it wrong. The culture at odds with working women is a masculine culture. It is a culture that pushes for traits that we consider to be masculine (this is, in actuality, what feminists should mean when they are talking about the patriarchy). Traits such as sacrificing family time for work time, working yourself to the bone to provide, a…
/r/MensRights14/03/14 01:41 PM
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So you're a prostitute.
/r/MensRights13/03/14 06:38 PM
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I just don't see what this bill would accomplish. Does this someone create evidence? How are you going to prove something like this? The accusation has turned from: "Did you rape her?" "No." to "Did she consent to sex?" "Yes." Tell me what is different, somebody.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 11:56 AM
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I don't think you quite understand my question. A punishment is something, often violent in some form, that is done out of the ordinary to reprimand an individual. If it was appropriate or common, it wouldn't be a punishment.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 06:19 AM
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If they saw it as appropriate, how would they see it as a "punishment"?
/r/MensRights04/03/14 12:57 AM
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But what do you do about the reduction effect. Allow me to explain, you have second wave feminism, yay good things get accomplished, laws are on the books that protect women's bodies and finances. The individual who wanted these parts of equality fade out of the movement. You're left with those individuals who want more, the extremists. These extremists, being the individuals who major in women's studies, go on to be social workers, writers, and teachers. These individuals pass down their extrem…
/r/MensRights23/02/14 02:49 AM
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A real man realizes there are times when lies are necessary as humans are not logical. And for those of us who do not have children? Indeed, but he is not the sole provider A "real man" is capable at looking at other people while maintaining control over himself, thus negating the need for this...tenet. Bullshit. False belief that love is some eternal thing where you just need to shove a little harder to get the square peg in the round hole. A "real man" does not simplify people unnecessarily.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:14 PM
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Individuals I have talked to have argued that this is just guys complaining that they have to pay, but lets break this down. If you believe that you going on a date with someone, being attracted to them, and possibly having sex is worth an exchange of currency, you are commodifying your sexuality and body. Commodities are used in trade, including advertising. http://www.adweek.com/files/adfreak/Art/Go-Big-or-Go-Home.jpg Furthermore, if you want to suggest some form of rape culture, in that a wom…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 10:07 PM
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Perhaps the aim is not to insult something you care about, but besmirch your honor (so to speak) by implying you come from an unsavory background. I honestly don't know, I've never understood insulting someone's mother.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 08:16 PM
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and a bad gamer ;)
/r/MensRights19/02/14 12:49 PM
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No I disagree, a person who boils water for ramen is not the same as an individual who is capable of cooking a thanksgiving meal for a family who in turn is not the same as someone who cooks professionally. A weekly karaoke singer is not the same as a choir member is not the same as a professional singer. A person who plays candy crush is not the same as a person who plays AAA titles when they hit is not the same as a pro gamer.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 12:37 PM
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I am a member of an e-sport team. We decided to include a female on the team just for the publicity benefit. So far we've been through two women who proclaimed they were good at the game, but were terrible. I think the issue here is the definition of gamer being used, much like the definition used by our two newbies. Playing against bots means you are factually a gamer. Playing candy crush makes you factually a gamer. Within that same mindset, cooking water for ramen every night factually makes …
/r/MensRights19/02/14 07:36 AM
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Institutionalized -ism =/= -ism
/r/MensRights19/02/14 06:12 AM
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Why the importance of comparing? How about both are shitty situations.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 08:36 AM
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I actually really like the idea of treating the issue like we treat drunk driving. Listen, both people are drunk and stupid, so we should take the keys out of their hands, so to speak.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 08:55 PM
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What a load of crap
/r/MensRights10/02/14 09:40 AM
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So let me get this straight. We finally realize work time is equal. We realize how people interpret their time used is subjective. However we only ask women whether they feel the time is fairly split? We only ask women if they consider their time use is high stress? Can we say disposable male?
/r/MensRights30/01/14 09:43 AM
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Right, and that's foolish. Rather than discriminating against individuals who are destructive to the company, you need to discriminate against all individual with characteristics similar to the destructive individuals.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 09:37 AM
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Why is it illegal to ask?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:20 AM
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I think you hit on an important issue, why is that illegal?
/r/MensRights26/01/14 09:48 PM
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So it's ok to comment on someone's image to one person, but not multiple people? Think about what you just said
/r/MensRights26/01/14 08:45 PM
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Clothing is not sufficient enough to judge someones intent in any circumstance! That is, unless it's a fedora, you can absolutely assume someones a douche because they are wearing a fedora. Skimpy clothes, though? No way, stop slut shaming.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 04:54 PM
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see my post. The commercials do not teach them life lessons, they use the life lessons already learned. Commercials exploit the human psyche, not create it.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:36 PM
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Disagree. People do not learn concepts from commercials. Commercials reinforce what we already have learned/interact with in real life. They do use memory retention, but it's not instinctual switch flipping. Coke, to use your example, doesn't brainwash people into wanting their soda. However, they are very good at triggering "Hey, remember how tasty coke is? Wouldn't you like one right now?" Women don't wear makeup because maybelline tells them to, they wear make up because it enhances and hides…
/r/MensRights11/01/14 05:34 PM
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"In your day" you wouldn't be caught outside the house.
/r/MensRights09/01/14 06:45 PM
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I'm sorry, did you just compare yourself to a child?
/r/MensRights08/01/14 02:10 AM
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There is nothing in this world I hate more than jezebel. I have disagreements with feminism, but I sympathize with the core mindset. Jezebel? They're the fox news of the gender discussion world.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 02:08 AM
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I disagree slightly. Because it is presented as "this is what a man hears and this is what a woman hears" it creates a narrative that suggests men have it all hunky dory and women's life sucks. Men and women both have to deal with double standards.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 02:13 AM
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Amusing, so are you suggesting feminism has infiltrated all of life? heh. You are indeed correct and while I applaud your attempt to turn the tables I don't really see how it is applicable.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:02 PM
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when your only lens is an ideology that insists men oppress women in every facet of life, you're going to see oppression everywhere
/r/MensRights08/12/13 07:49 PM
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All 3 choices are bad
/r/MensRights04/12/13 10:21 PM
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one step at a time
/r/MensRights30/11/13 08:21 AM
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Let's Speculation accomplishes nothing
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:32 PM
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A conversation about speculation
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:27 PM
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Speculation accomplishes nothing
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:55 PM
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If rand Paul were a goat he would be held up as a war hero and fly us to the moon. If rand Paul were a bowl of jello people would be concerned with his economic model and call him captain doomshroom Oh, are we not just spouting speculative bullshit?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:51 PM
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I think it's pretty cool.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 11:21 AM
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Notice the gender role dynamic with the insults. Slut is acted on. Player acts on others
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:11 PM
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it wasn't jezebel, it was the writer of the study. Even though their data tables say otherwise, they still word their summarized results to fit their hypothesis.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 10:18 AM
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Combine this study with two others: http://www.science20.com/news_articles/gender_and_porn_where_men_and_women_look_first http://www.bristol.ac.uk/expsych/news/2012/87.html And the idea of the objectifying gaze is falling apart. In fact, women are the ones who objectify each other, analyzing each others bodies as competition rather than as other people. Projection perhaps?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:20 PM
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So apparently the study doesn't say at all what the article said. http://scientopia.org/blogs/drugmonkey/2013/10/29/journalism-blows-it-big-time-in-reporting-a-study-on-the-objectification-of-women/
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:18 PM
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The million dollar question that's always missing: is this also true for male subjects
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:10 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, gynocentrism
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:07 PM
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The paragraph that starts with "kitchens seems to misunderstand"
/r/MensRights26/10/13 11:27 PM
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The problem with the authors definition of rape culture (and i agree this is the definition commonly intended) is that it is an improvable and yet people are demanding action on it. All you have to do is formulate a scenario where something relates to rape and we have to ban it? Rewarding behavior leads to individuals believing that they deserve what they want if they achieve, so lets ban trophies and prizes.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 10:57 PM
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I think we need to raise women's but I think we should also take a moment, while we are at it, to reevaluate the sentencing for each crime and what we are trying to accomplish. Life imprisonment means one thing to me: You are deemed so toxic and incapable of living within the rules of society that we must remove you from society. Serial and extremely violent offenders should be put in life, no questions. But now for everything below that, what are we trying to accomplish? Are we trying to punish…
/r/MensRights24/10/13 07:27 PM
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I would explain that the issue being debated with abortion is not whether it is a woman's choice or not, but rather if a fetus is a living human being or not. It doesn't matter whether a woman is capable of killing someone or not.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 07:17 PM
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And for those men who have not had those thoughts?
/r/MensRights20/10/13 10:07 PM
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I am aware, the article used cattle
/r/MensRights19/10/13 11:44 PM
2

The view of knights and women are also due to the Victorian era. God damn puritans!
/r/MensRights19/10/13 09:17 PM
9

As I recall most abductions are by family members.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 10:49 AM
1

Actually the picture is not sexist, just incorrect. Factually the title of the post is true, but dehumanizing.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:26 PM
2

Jokes are jokes
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:19 PM
3

Your summary is backwards
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:46 PM
-2

Indeed it is stupid to draw your self worth, your identity from a single subject, but it none the less happens. Then when that basis of identity is invalidated or minimized it's gunna fuck the person up. do you watch breaking bad? Take a look at what happens to hank.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 01:20 AM
1

I don't necessarily agree with you guys, but something to contemplate: What do you think happens to an individual who had been told their virginity is so important. That they need to protect their sex from encroaching suitors. That believe the basis of their being is on their sexuality. What happens when that essence is stolen? For the male equivalent, what happens to a man when his ability to provide, to work is taken from him?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 12:25 AM
13

This really struck a chord for me. Society infantalizes women. parents teach their daughters to look out for the bad man. We have a media who gives stories about bad guys and good guys. In the news they talk specifically about the innocent women and children. We have a narrative that suggests men always have agency. Is it any wonder women can't see the innocent man? Is it any wonder that men are compared to a template of Schrodinger's rapist? You don't support women? You must be a misogynist
/r/MensRights17/10/13 07:49 PM
1

Well you get to the difficult position of how do you prove someone is treated worse?
/r/MensRights16/10/13 11:40 AM
1

I agree that discrimination probably happens at some level and discussing it is important, but i think what he is approaching is that the material you presented might not be discriminatory, but rather unbiased douciness
/r/MensRights16/10/13 01:27 AM
3

That would take a superhuman individual I could major in physics and computer science and marine biology, but chances are not good
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:51 PM
3

Did you miss the part where i said they could bleed into each other? Children need both discipline and nurturing.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:42 PM
1

Why do you think its a false dichotomy? And how long is this going to go?
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:21 PM
1

Why does a child need discipline and nurturing?
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:15 PM
2

Why is this a new post?
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:05 PM
0

I agree, the sex of the individual is not important, but the gender is if that makes sense. You need two people (at least), one person has to take the typical male hard ass role and someone has to take the soft nurturing role. These roles can bleed into each other, but both these have to be present somehow
/r/MensRights13/10/13 08:00 PM
4

Because there are only so many minutes in the day. A person can't do EVERYTHING else we would never have a two parent system in the first place.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 07:14 PM
3

What's wrong with more information about women in science?
/r/MensRights11/10/13 10:42 PM
1

The number of provably false rape claims is about equal to the number of rape convictions (provable rapes) all else is unknown, grey zone.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 06:55 PM
10

Could he conflate feminism with women any more? Not only is a lack of women indicative of no feminist supporters in position of power, but disliking feminism is misogyny.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 06:14 PM
2

Which right? Your misunderstanding of color blindness tells me you're not color blind
/r/MensRights06/10/13 07:32 PM
1

Real? What is real?
/r/MensRights06/10/13 07:30 PM
1

Your title is misleading, no one's rights are being violated. Furthermore, color blindness means nothing when the text is the same color as the background
/r/MensRights06/10/13 07:27 PM
5

Shitty jokes are shitty jokes and there is nothing wrong with saying they are shitty. However, calling for some kind of attacking on the comedian, trying to ban the joke, or suggesting an ideology is valid due to it is just dumb.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 07:24 PM
2

Oh, please do
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:58 PM
9

The part that's always missed: Feminism, being established within the strict gender role ideology is inherently gender role adherent The reason its missed: the blind spot, gynocentrism
/r/MensRights05/10/13 08:06 PM
4

Oh, I'm not talking about this particular post. I said this site was misogynistic, not this article. http://www.returnofkings.com/16837/24-signs-shes-a-slut http://www.returnofkings.com/17525/controlling-your-womans-diet
/r/MensRights05/10/13 05:32 PM
-7

This site is truly misogynistic, pua crap
/r/MensRights04/10/13 09:04 PM
1

Things are not so simple. To play devil's advocate, Miley is a role model by being a star in Hollywood. There is no escaping this connection. By being a role model, you are providing an example for young girls. Now, we want young girls to develop their own healthy sexuality. However, what Miley is displaying is not having a healthy sexuality, but displaying/using that sexuality, this is very dangerous territory for young people and our view of them. A wise man one wrote, with great power comes g…
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:51 PM
3

It's not so much knock feminism down a notch as it is have feminism understand it's not working with the whole picture and is thus executing movements with false premises
/r/MensRights04/10/13 07:00 PM
1

Ironically due to what feminists label patriarchy and benevolent sexism. Society has been taught that "oh crap our women are in trouble, save the queen!"
/r/MensRights28/09/13 04:57 PM
1

do you recall a title?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:01 PM
4

indoctrination
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:42 PM
2

can you present the study?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:37 PM
7

NO FUN ALLOWED!
/r/MensRights22/09/13 07:56 PM
22

Wait, you can go to jail for wearing a fucking shirt?!
/r/MensRights20/09/13 09:31 PM
1

What single, limiting color is marketed to boys and men that they cling to for dear life, that they use to advertise and feel secure about their own gender, Says it all Those poor women
/r/MensRights20/09/13 02:03 AM
-1

Your observations are incorrect
/r/MensRights15/09/13 08:07 PM
2

Kids these days http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/07/sources-meanings-of-what-do-you-mean.html?m=1 The quote means "stop lumping me in with you". You do not speak for "us"
/r/MensRights15/09/13 07:00 PM
1

"who's 'we' white man?"
/r/MensRights15/09/13 06:42 PM
3

Called it
/r/MensRights13/09/13 11:24 PM
10

If I wanted to speak in class I needed to take a class that involved student participation Danger, will Robinson. Danger. This means you are not learning, you're being indoctrinated. Descartes being a eugenicist? Lol This sounds like a structualist teaching post structuralism. Five bucks says she's older and has an unrelated degree
/r/MensRights13/09/13 11:00 PM
2

Ah, but this is easily exploited sexism. Let her disarm the patriarchy bomb and we can call her sexist afterwards.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 07:29 PM
1

meh, if they want to say it existed and it's over, I'm ok with that. I can play that off outside of history class.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 06:46 PM
1

women before children? wat?
/r/MensRights13/09/13 06:26 PM
2

My truth is better than their truth
/r/MensRights13/09/13 05:56 PM
2

seconded. I mean, draziil if you don't like beer, that's you, but I suggest trying different types of beer before saying you don't. A good beer is like a meal, not sour piss water.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 10:37 AM
10

uh, what? A single man dying =/= male disposability.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:57 AM
2

I agree. There was a time you were in a loving relationship and were human beings. You made agreements together. Alimony should be more limited and controlled and should be short term, but it should not be banned.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 10:26 PM
12

most importantly imo is who wrote this
/r/MensRights31/08/13 02:29 AM
1

What does my genitalia have to do with me being willing to help you? Do you assume that men don't help each other?
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:02 PM
25

this looks shopped. I can tell...pixels....seeing some shops in my time
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:50 AM
1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSVYgcy24Q All I can think about
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:44 PM
1

The basis for her question is flawed, yes. Now what does that have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 05:17 PM
2

first of all, use an np link. You are brigading, which is a dick move. Second of all, were you elected to speak for all women after you acquired the ability to read their minds, or did that come after the election?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:15 PM
2

The word choice was not made accidentally :p I am not forgetting we have urinals, peeking would none the less be the correct word usage. Why are you conversing with people in the bathroom?
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:45 AM
1

how many? It just stated men are more likely than women. If 1 woman finds a public restroom stressful and 2 men, well that would be more.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:44 AM
0

With all do respect to your psychological issue, broad policy should not be dictated by anecdotal response.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 04:04 AM
1

Why does a woman make you anxious when a man doesn't?
/r/MensRights24/08/13 03:25 AM
2

I agree the double standard itself pisses me off, but as far as the individual? Just fucking go to the bathroom. If they're not peeking over the stall who gives a shit.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 01:30 AM
1

Something else that kind of twerks my nose within the same sphere of discussion. Has anyone noticed it's common within gender discussions for female individuals to have issue with "getting into" the character of media (namely video games). In my opinion there is this narrative where women want female characters because they can't relate to the male character. I don't see this being true with the opposite scenario, male gamers playing female characters, despite the idea that supposedly the female…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 06:32 PM
7

Precisely, it's a thought experiment. Something you have to kind of contemplate within yourself, "Am I really getting the whole picture here?" It's not meant to be an attack. My personal experience with the idea is with catcalling. I haven't seen catcalling in public despite my attempts to. I will never truly understand it from either the caller or the targets perspective, no matter how I try. That doesn't stop me from trying, it just leads me to take pause when I think "But I haven't seen it so…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 06:25 PM
1

And the people that work there, the owners, they don't fall into those categories?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 09:30 AM
5

We're up to 1:2 now?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:58 AM
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and where exactly is that money going to come from? Oh that's right, tax payers. So just to kind of visualize where this is coming from, lets list the tax payers in relation to the mothers. The mothers themselves. So that money isn't really a + The father of said child. Again, that money isn't really a + Other mothers. Some redistribution there /eyeroll Husbands of said mothers. Single Women and men who don't want kids. Sooooo.... how exactly does this make things fair again? Are you going to cr…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:55 AM
8

Are we just going to completely ignore the social, psychological, and possibly violent consequences?
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:09 AM
8

Or causation is backwards. The events that lead to stabilization mean women can become empowered
/r/MensRights17/08/13 11:20 PM
-1

Please understand, I do not think are a whore. However you are wearing the uniform.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 12:47 AM
0

Love blinders /shrug
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:41 PM
1

Well... are we expanding socialization to include outside influences? Influences such as neighbors and the war they may or may not bring, environment, availability of food, and terrain? I think if we were talking animals, we would call these modifiers "natural". Social changes do not happen on a whim.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 07:39 PM
8

Patriarchy....backfiring. So is she suggesting that it was a gun put in place, aimed, and triggered by men?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:18 PM
11

Cannot agree more. The issue shouldn't be skirt = promiscuous, but that promiscuous =/= bad person
/r/MensRights11/08/13 11:58 PM
5

Feminists is not the enemy of men's rights and don't need to be lambasted here. Are there times we disagree? Absolutely, but creating a thread just to point at /r/feminism and laugh is not healthy for this subreddit. You're not accomplishing anything in regards to men's rights. Whether your intentions were to brigade or not, your thread was a brigade thread.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 10:20 PM
1

ah I hadn't thought of that.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:50 PM
9

You created an invasion thread. A thread specifically designed to funnel individuals from /r/mr to /r/feminism. With the constant contention between the two groups, linking between them is a bad idea. If you want to discuss a topic posted there I suggest just linking to whatever their thread linked to, the article in this case.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:06 PM
1

.... uuuuhhh that dialog sounds a bit unbelievable.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:03 PM
4

I do agree that the elusive definition is frustrating, basically have to ask for a definition every time you encounter the word.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:54 PM
1

The subReddit however is not about representing feminism, it's about discussing women specific issues, the literal definition of feminism. It's a circle jerk, not a academic discussion base
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:59 PM
1

Daw, that's adorable that you believe that. Wii targets the 8 to 13 and 30+/casual market. Microsoft and Sony totally don't target the teen market with call of duty, dead or alive or all the cheese cake in your beloved jrpg
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:30 PM
1

.... precisely? Thanks for proving my point? The question was does the industry target the market of 14-18 year olds because they're willing and capable to shell out cash and you proved in spades.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:48 PM
1

Lol want to read that again chief? That's for one game, everquest 2. And again, reports playing video games is different than reports buying a triple A video game every month.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:39 PM
1

/eyeroll seriously? We are talking demographics for video game sales and usage. I'll edit it for the simple minded. 14-18 year olds. God, you think 15 year olds are the only one with hormones high enough to cause wank bank games.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:36 PM
1

http://www.prlog.org/10821742-16-18-year-olds-have-more-disposable-income-than-any-other-age-group.html http://www.atg.wa.gov/BlogPost.aspx?id=20570#.Uf6QS5Lkv1Y That's nice, we were talking statistical averages, not personal choice.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 05:32 PM
1

Sure, right after having to pay for your own food, shelter, car, student loans, insurance, health insurance, utilities, and going out with friends, yeah totally Oh wait, then there is the whole having kids thing... Oh don't forget to subtract the birthday present blow outs
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:24 PM
0

25 to 40 year Olds report playing games, but do not have the disposable income a 14-18 year old does to get every new call of duty every 3 months
/r/MensRights03/08/13 01:49 AM
2

5 bucks says his mom is a brain washing nutjob.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 01:02 AM
4

That's just dumb, military jurisdiction has an exceptional position because it deals with individuals who are killing by decree of the state, it should not be applied to a school.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 01:23 AM
10

I've said it once and I'll say it again, schools have NO PLACE in having their own personal justice system. Let the police and judicial system do its job.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:06 AM
5

As others have said you're not being sexist, but I would urge caution in how specific you're being about the individual. Its your life and do what you want, but think about it.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:03 AM
8

I am going to bet you're not doing them properly
/r/MensRights27/07/13 03:44 AM
0

Are they healthy adult individuals? Educational background? The way you talk about them makes it sound like they are the minority
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:04 AM
1

Do you know of individuals who upon meeting someone says nothing, but stares glaze eyed at their breasts? Who are these supposed people.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 12:39 AM
2

No? They have their own subreddit, why would they be part of r/mr? Are radical feminist that suggest male eugenics part of r/feminism?
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:19 PM
1

Places of serious issue, Saudi Arabia and the Congo for example, do not need women's rights, they need to be brought up to first world status. Women's rights will come with the change
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:24 PM
2

Red pills are extremists equivalent to rad fems
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:21 PM
2

Also the idea of legally is..dubious. Yes the state didn't have a law on the books, but if you think husbands got away with rape, you've got another thing coming. We are talking about a time where the general mentality was "the state has no place in dealing with issues of this personal nature" Third world countries do not have the standards and society that the western world does. Gww recently talked about this, men are expecting to care for their family in a dangerous location, therefore that s…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:49 PM
1

that's....nice....
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:41 AM
1

That people on a normal date, both know they are on a date doesn't change the fact that this is standard progression. On a normal date where both individuals know they are on a date, people touch each other. On a normal date you'll be ok with them touching you. It's when you get to he has isolated you that red flags go up.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:19 AM
3

but as I said, that's also the progression of a normal date which will send false positives. You don't gain anything by knowing the progression. It's like saying Disease A will kill you: Signs you have disease A: 1. You will grow hair on top of your head 2. Your lungs will expand and decompress with air 3. Your skin will turn purple.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:11 AM
1

On a normal date the first two steps do happen though. It's when the guy or woman does the non consensual isolation that you enter danger territory, so why include the rest? Why not just say "watch for individuals isolating you"
/r/MensRights20/07/13 01:40 AM
-1

so wait there is a man who wants a baby. and he discriminates against having sex with other men. so a homophobic who wants a baby? You want a definition of sexism that does not include homophobes who want babies.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:14 PM
1

Lawyer is doing his job
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:02 AM
2

You should really be out conquering the world with all that power, bro.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 08:25 AM
1

Hear hear
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:41 PM
4

"men are always leering at me, 1 in 4 women will be sexual assaulted. I can't walk around at night" yes let us talk about paranoia.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 10:11 PM
0

I agree with her. The definition of success includes traits that are often attributed to masculinity. However there is no means of separating those traits from success. All you can do is disconnect the default attribution to masculinity or rather suggest women can take on masculine traits and not vilify those women.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 10:08 PM
6

So is she implying misogyny is the systemic oppression of women by men (as opposed to society) ? If so, no wonder individual consider feminists to be man haters. edit: they aren't, I'm just saying I can understand why people would think they did with examples like this.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:42 PM
4

I'm frustrated over the response to this campaign being "Well, they're not taking the fact that sexual assault happens seriously, they are demeaning the crime". How exactly does discussing false accusations demean when the crime actual happens?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 10:16 PM
1

Sure, but that's not how it's often presented. Most people discuss clothing as a means of preventing rape from happening in the first place, you're discussing how clothing can make a rape more difficult.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:19 PM
2

Explanation =/= justification
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:16 PM
2

Where my mind currently is plays out interestingly as well. So, this patriarchy it permeates all our society right? You can't really escape it, it's been around as long as society has, but we're trying to fight it, make changes. So if this patriarchy is so clandestinely invasive, what makes feminists immune to it? If feminism was born within a patriarchal society, isn't there a significant chance that patriarchal tenants will be passed on into feminism?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 11:41 PM
1

I agree, generally speaking I don't find them to be radical. The censorship, while annoying, is understandable when you consider the people who post to pick fights.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 10:34 PM
4

Do you live in saudi arabia? Do you know of the living conditions there? Are you applying western mindset, built with a western environment to a different culture?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 11:33 PM
2

Well, you are implying that it is common in a culture when you say things like "In certain cultures women are treated like chattel". You're not quantifying enough if you are not trying to express that. Women being treated like chattel is not the result of a culture, but of individuals. "There were some individuals who treat women like chattel"
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:39 PM
1

Well, lets talk about this then. First, oppression is in the eye of the beholder. The current wiki definition is the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. What is just? What is burdensome? What is cruel? These are subjective words. Personally I think the use of the word oppressed is unnecessary, it's purpose to cast a particular group in a victim light and thus another group as the aggressor. If everyone suffered to survive, what is the point of doing so? I pre…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:29 PM
1

It is not unlikely that there are a few cases of cannibalism in the united states. Would it be accurate then to say the US had a cannibal problem? Why use sporadic acts of wtf as any kind of indication of how things went.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:15 PM
2

explain =/= justify
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:05 PM
6

What happens when you bring the white feather campaign and social influence into the mix? We're talking about social influences overall here, so it makes sense to do so. Yes, men are not literally forced into the army, however society indoctrinates them into the mindset that "It is their job to die to protect the women and children"
/r/MensRights04/07/13 10:01 PM
10

That doesn't increase diversity, that just sets exactly who you want running.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 09:30 AM
10

Why do they always look the same?!
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:12 PM
2

I wasn't aware the president was the one who dictated laws for individuals states to pass, I always assumed there were some individuals, some political leaders, that govern a particular state that are elected. No wonder obama is always so busy, writing laws for all the states.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 10:10 PM
1

eeeeehhhh I think what a lot of people forget, especially feminists, is feminism was created within the traditionalist society (read: the patriarchy) that we have such a problem with. Feminism is not magically immune to the traditionalist thinking of that previous society, in fact a lot of feminism's dogma is going to be based on the very thing they hate.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:27 PM
2

Not that far. But think of it this way. Society over all has been teaching women "Be careful men are dangerous" "You need to protect your virginity" "Men want your sex" "You are the gatekeeper, men are the initiator" These thoughts aren't really from feminism per say, they're from society at large. Do you think that much caution drilled into their heads from the age of 4 is healthy? It's indoctrinated paranoia.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 09:20 AM
1

To her original "point", actually if you read the bible, original sin is considered "Adam's sin" not "adam and eve's sin". Within the boundaries of the story, it kinda makes sense too. Adam was directly told "do not eat from the tree of knowledge" by God. Eve, on the other hand, was told through hearsay, so was less informed. You then have the point that Satan tricked her into eating the fruit; she was manipulated. Meanwhile Adam chose to eat the fruit knowing exactly what it was and exactly wha…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 05:51 PM
3

It must be like the warp fields in star trek. sperm aren't actually moving, its the woman and thus the egg that is moving around the sperm
/r/MensRights23/06/13 10:21 PM
23

Why should I have to choose between a career I am passionate about and the clock on my ovaries? Sorry, but that's life. You can't do everything. Time is a bitch, but it's watcha gotta do. Companies cannot wave a magic wand and make it so your ability to work for them is not important and scientists cannot wave a magic wand and snooze your biological clock.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 04:36 AM
1

I'm glad marcotte wrote her piece. I think Hinds' thought process is a result of feminism (and society in generally) being too "catch phrasey". Rather than slowing down and explaining things in detail, people blurt shit out and when you take that shit for the capital T Truth, you get stupidity and zealotry.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 10:19 PM
0

Foucault's analysis of power suggests that power is a two way street.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:40 PM
24

Sexy females is a personal female fantasy and a sexual male fantasy. Powerful males is a personal male fantasy and a sexual female fantasy.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:37 PM
6

Unfortunately our judicial system has a mindset of "the child is the property of the mother"
/r/MensRights10/06/13 09:00 PM
1

Does discriminatory speech cause prejudice? Sure it does; and that doesn't negate free will at all. If a population of people are presented only two options, say, that either a) apples taste awful so aren't worth eating, or b) apples are poisonous and shouldn't be eaten, those people, by and large, are not going to eat apples, free will or not. The idea that people are not effected by what they hear said in the world, is absurd; that's the whole point of speaking! For my own clarification, would…
/r/MensRights07/06/13 11:08 PM
16

eh it's a very loose relation. Part of men's rights is attempting to shrug off our gender roles. One of those gender roles is to not show emotion
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:20 AM
8

Honestly it is bullshit and something feminists are right about. It's to cover their asses. By having control of the gheist of sexual assault they get to determine the face they present the world, specifically that they are perfectly safe and never have to deal with crime.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 09:09 PM
8

I didn't have any issues with planned parenthood when I got tested. I'm sorry, but perhaps your situation led to a bit of paranoia when it came to the whole "everyone was glaring at you". How long did you wait for the results before having sex? And seriously, dude, chlamydia and herpes? Wrap your shit up
/r/MensRights01/06/13 05:47 PM
4

because whats important here is how she looks, not her argument? Dude, get the fuck out of here, no one needs this crap.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 07:47 PM
17

I assume "Because fuck you, this is our company" is not an accepted explanation?
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:00 PM
1

daw I feel honored
/r/MensRights29/05/13 06:16 PM
5

What kinda makes me...wtf about this whole thing is, yes game companies are guilty of being very lazy in using these boring tropes again and again. However, it is equally lazy to swing at the low hanging fruit. What are you adding to the conversation? She's just as lazy as the developers are.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 11:58 PM
1

oh manzboobz, you're so funny
/r/MensRights27/05/13 11:56 PM
12

Meh, it's a joke
/r/MensRights27/05/13 12:50 AM
3

Why are they your friend?
/r/MensRights26/05/13 10:35 PM
1

I'm with grapeban on this one. Learn to separate your ability to judge from your ability to be a friend. You offer the victim comfort while simultaneously maintaining a neutral position as far as believing them.
/r/MensRights26/05/13 09:22 PM
7

Nonsense, yes. Utter, no. Feminism does not flatly promote that women never lie. However, it does advocate, and present statistical data assuming, that every person that claims rape is telling the truth. Is this a result of the false perception established by second wavers that previously no one believed rape claims? Yes, but that doesn't excuse the shitty thought, just the person presenting it.
/r/MensRights26/05/13 09:17 PM
6

I will say that scene was extremely awkward. Seriously? The only person who needs to strip to put on their space suit is doctor mcsexy?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 10:45 PM
2

I think its a bit dumb to try to set a hard line. Both the image of males and females are ideals, ideals established by society, not by women and not by men, by society
/r/MensRights19/05/13 10:32 PM
5

Um, political agenda? Paranoia about an anonymous survey actually being anonymous? Self deception? I've got 3 reasons for lying on an anaonymous survey so far.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:43 PM
1

What they should have said was partner. We evolved past a tournament species a while ago
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:01 PM
8

Sexual discrimination is a two sided coin. There's no way to say "these people do this" without saying "these people don't do this"
/r/MensRights11/05/13 06:20 PM
3

What do we want? Change or to be right?
/r/MensRights02/05/13 07:48 PM
5

indeed, it is unfortunate, but i'd much rather create change so that one day that might not be true rather than wring my hands.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 05:38 PM
2

did you see the edited version? If so, please provide input.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:49 PM
1

thanks, its been edited
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:21 PM
1

I don't think its just women. I think overall it is difficult, but no impossible, to get people to think outside of their little world.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:20 PM
11

http://imgur.com/4QqaDgG with suggested changes
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:01 PM
1

thanks, will make edits and repost
/r/MensRights01/05/13 12:53 PM
2

The point of creating it is that we have to work within the realm of traditional gender roles. People are still protective of women and don't care as much about men, so play to their sympathies.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 10:48 AM
2

http://imgur.com/XQmpk6q fixed...again
/r/MensRights01/05/13 10:13 AM
1

yes, thanks for the spell check :)
/r/MensRights01/05/13 09:56 AM
10

I'm sure this neeeeeeevvverrrr happens anywhere else
/r/MensRights01/05/13 09:30 AM
2

that's kinda the point. The use of said statistics do nothing other than demonize male sexuality. "Be scared girls!"
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:41 AM
1

Now with spellcheck!
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:00 AM
79

Uh, dude. That was a really confrontational title. You don't get support by saying "HEY DOUCHEBAG! GUNNA BE A CHUMP TODAY OR YOU GUNNA FOLLOW ME?!"
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:17 AM
1

You're right, there's no such thing as an OC house wife in their right mind, silly me
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:04 AM
-3

Oc house wives don't count
/r/MensRights28/04/13 09:23 PM
2

It's fucking cosmo, no one in their right mind supports that crap
/r/MensRights28/04/13 07:47 PM
6

The reason I recently discovered that I think other people don't think of is female pecking order. Men aren't the only ones who try to "one up" each other and set some kind of social order. Hell I'd say women are more prone to it then men.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 07:13 PM
0

Never apologize about the length of a post, more to read is awesome by me. I disagree that the complements little girls get versus little boys are that drastically different. Growing up girls were told they were smart, creative, and funny just as much as boys and boys were told they were handsome just as much as girls told they were pretty. Everyone judges people by their face and clothing. (Well not EVERYONE, but everyone). Look at all the self-help crap that covers first impressions. It's why …
/r/MensRights24/04/13 10:49 PM
2

Indeed you can, you have more experience as a woman. I just don't feel comfortable stating definitively what women love.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 11:07 PM
0

While I agree the ideology of traditional gender roles reduces people to these very primal basic ideas of humans, I don't think people necessarily do it. While it may be argued that the mentally disadvantaged and adolescent may slip into this animalistic mindset, I don't think sound minded adults do. I think more often than not people are capable of appreciating the physical attributes of an individual while simultaneously seeing the individual as a human being.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 02:43 PM
2

meeeeeeehhhhh i can't go that far. That's a serious generalization
/r/MensRights23/04/13 01:43 PM
15

Are you being serious or just presenting the opinion? Its like these people have never had anything but vanilla sex
/r/MensRights21/04/13 08:53 PM
4

See, I have a different viewpoint, I think it's great. It's a joke video. You don't post exactly the way things are to make a joke; you take a social interaction and blow it out of proportions. You have men that think they're far more handsome than they are, guys gender role includes having high confidence. You also have women who are SUPER over critical, a parody of the original dove real beauty commercial. Yeah the, joke, message is "Guys, you're not as good looking as you think", but I took a…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 03:51 PM
8

My favorite line: "His eyes were kind of...rapey" (favorite in a wtf sorta way)
/r/MensRights20/04/13 06:54 AM
3

"While I understand your concern for safety, I have a bit of food for thought to offer about this situation. Why is it that you believe a man would be any more dangerous than a woman? There are lesbian rapists/sexual assaulters out there. The chance that a guy could be a very bad person is as likely as a woman being a very bad person. Truth is, neither is extremely likely. However, at the end of the day it is your personal safety and you must be comfortable with it, just be wary of how you perce…
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:15 PM
2

I think your logic here is flawed out at least misrepresented here, jack. You can't say for sure that more women are raped than lie about rape. Such a mindset likely has a foundation in the puritan "women are wonderful" mindset. I find it a but concerning that just not you, but a majority of people would believe people are more likely to do something as terrible as rape, than lie. Recognizing the possibility of a high number of false allegations only discredits actual rape if nothing is done abo…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:39 PM
2

http://www.cwasu.org/page_display.asp?pageid=STATS&pagekey=35&itemkey=39 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:30 AM
2

The percentage of cases of rape with enough evidence to prosecute is roughly 8% The percentage of cases of false rape with enough evidence to prosecute is roughly 8% Everything else is unknown
/r/MensRights13/04/13 11:58 PM
5

FOR FUCK SAKES! This is why we can't let ideologies spread to the common people. Because the common people are fucking retarded and half read shit. The Power + privilege formula is for INSTITUTIONAL racism. Racism is still racism and can very much happen to white people.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 12:48 AM
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But it is based off of self reporting with surveys. Let me give you an example: Have you ever had someone touch you that made you felt was inappropriate? Yes (I was at the club the other day and someone touched my butt. Did they do it on purpose or did they accidentally brush past?) Alright, so that's one for sexual assault. Or another. Did you have any sexual contact when you were under the age of 16? Yes (When I was 6, a boy and I went behind the school shed and played doctor) Ok, that's one m…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 11:11 AM
3

It's not just feminism in this case. It's american culture. There's this "need" to punish the wicked that is driven through our history (Burn the witch!). We have this...obsession with revenge.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 10:57 PM
8

I've talked with friends about this. Every single one has said "It's really only attractive when its obvious the girl is into it"
/r/MensRights10/04/13 07:07 AM
1

As soon as the fetus is marked as a full human being you are now weighing the life of one individual against the want to give birth of the other. If we mark the fetus as a human being, you are dismissing the rights and bodies of that human being.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 08:58 AM
1

I agree with you, I'm just exploring why it makes people uncomfortable. Why is it impolite. Is it fear they might act?
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:53 AM
2

I could see the beneficial and desirable part. But we know lots of shit in the world that holds no benefit (oh God Facebook, guinness book of records, and jeopardy). I want to focus on the appropriate part. If he has not acted on the attraction other than acknowledging the attraction, how is it inappropriate? I propose that it's not inappropriate to be attracted to someone at work, but it can be inappropriate to act on that attraction due to power and social dynamics
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:26 AM
2

Why would you be uncomfortable if your boss is attracted to you? Just curious
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:16 AM
1

Trying to revolutionize world economics away from it's capitalist form is quite an undertaking. I agree with you whole heartedly, but I think this solution is impossible. Though we could lean in that direction
/r/MensRights06/04/13 12:02 AM
3

Also it suggests sexual attraction, it does not necessarily mean there is sexual attraction or that the individual will act on it. I think as a society we have conflated thought with act as far as sexuality goes
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:53 PM
5

What makes a collar magically work appropriate? There was a time when a dress or skirt were considered the only work appropriate attire
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:49 PM
3

That's not what I said and not equivalent. They did not tell him "dress business formal, they said you must wear a collared shirt. So, again, would it be fine to tell a woman she must wear a "an unlegged bottom", a dress or skirt
/r/MensRights05/04/13 11:24 PM
4

Why would you feel uncomfortable? If it's because you think they are focusing solely on that trait, why do you think that? If it's because it might suggest sexual attraction, why do you perceive sexual attraction as negative?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 10:55 PM
4

So, saying "you must wear a dress" is completely ok?
/r/MensRights05/04/13 10:40 PM
3

The difference is taking problems into your own hands. It's part of the masculine gender role, to be an agent rather than an object. Unfortunately, within the realm of mainstream feminism this is called "victim blaming". MRA's side: "Hey, some women may be crazy. Better safe than sorry, you may want to do x y and z" Feminism's Side "Hey, some men may be crazy, all men should be taught not to rape" This particular aspect of feminism is unfortunately typical female gender roles, to have things don…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:38 AM
1

What are goals of this movement? Broadly and specifically (in terms of legislation, etc etc)? How would you like people to perceive the movement? I cannot speak for the movement as a whole, I can only state what my goals are. I would like to see a world where individuals do not have to deal with discrimination due to their gender or sex. I would like to see a world where gender roles are not strict, I think this is largely an issue of how we raise children, not what we can do for adults. Let chi…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 06:02 PM
2

"patriarchy", that men held power is a very limited view on what power is. Yes, men held more overt power, but women held equivalent power.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 10:23 PM
-1

Gender roles. Women and men are both sexually aggressive naturally. What is different is how they are "supposed" to go about it. In the dance of sexual relations, men get the role of being proceptive. They are to act, ask the girl out and present interest actively. Women get the role of being receptive. Their job is to receive the potential mate requests and filter them until she gets the one she wants. When a woman is looking at porn, she is "signaling" her sexual interest, intentionally or not…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 10:13 PM
1

Camelot, yes. Game of Thrones? Not so much. I'm not well versed enough with King david to have a response about him. Ok so we have king arthur as a role model, anyone else?
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:17 PM
3

His analysis of the princess vs the queen is very though provoking and it is definitely a narrative you see acted out in the real world and not just movies. However, I don't think it is limited to just women. Men in positions of king within a fantasy storyline seem to fall into two catagories. Either the failing monarch, who is about to be killed or die of old age or the corrupt crown. Can anyone think of a story that has a king thats present in the storyline for more than a few moment and ins't…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 11:22 AM
1

Oh that poor female senator, she truly needs someone to shake a finger at the male senator for using pandering language. Surely he did it because she was a woman and not because he was disagreeing with her.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 11:06 AM
3

complex moral reasoning moral Coporation lolwat
/r/MensRights25/03/13 08:24 PM
4

Oh the irony of talking about the big picture. Gender issues cannot be solved by only working on one gender. If you "free" women to break their gender roles, but not men, all of the "male slots" will still be occupied and the only ones available for women are... Female roles.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 08:48 PM
3

Its not the women doing it that's wrong, its the bar asking for it. (it was the way it was dressed)
/r/MensRights23/03/13 10:36 PM
2

5% of rape cases end in conviction due to the stipulation of evidence; it must be because no one believes them 5% of rape cases are provably false due to the stipulation of evidence; totally accurate to the actual number of rape cases. This is doublethink
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:45 PM
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No one is forcing men to join selective services, they just provide incentive to do so. Its sexist.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:25 PM
1

because here is where we go with it: Are you trying to say murder is not despicable? Why don't you sat no one should suffer any violent crime?" "are you trying to say theft is not despicable? Why don't you say no one should suffer any crime?" Etc
/r/MensRights23/03/13 08:38 PM
5

Sure, but people like their stupid titles and categories. I've given up trying to unify
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:45 PM
4

I agree with you, but let's choose our battles. The sun of the article was to discuss agency, how about another article gets written to talk about empathy for the falsely accused
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:40 PM
3

its a plan for the future, not the current state
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:38 PM
-1

If only everyone had your mind reading powers, we wouldn't need to discuss anything
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:36 PM
4

I think what thack is getting at is that he agrees with you. Let's not try to argue which is worse, murder or death, but from both sides. Let's not say "rape is the worst thing ever" and arguments of "nuh uh" won't come up
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:33 PM
10

This is the feminism we need. I consider myself an ally of this writer
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:21 PM
15

Well..it is. Its also sexist against men. Its impossible, or at least very very difficult to have a sexist policy that affects only one gender in a sexually diametric (word) society. That's kind off the thought that feminists are trying to convey when they say "feminism helps men too", but they do it in a dismissive, rather than an inclusive way. Its not "no, that's a women's rights issues", it's "yes, that is both a women's and men's rights issue"
/r/MensRights23/03/13 06:02 PM
10

Right, they just assumed you wanted it because you were "wearing" an erection
/r/MensRights23/03/13 01:26 AM
1

Men's rights has nothing to do with women behaving badly. If she is convicted and given a lighter sentence than a man who committed the same crime, feel free to post that
/r/MensRights23/03/13 01:22 AM
1

Does anyone know more about this story? In particular, did CNN cover the case all day and thus already stated how horrible it was for the victim, or was this a single coverage moment.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 10:51 PM
6

all PSA's are done in bill and ted's voice in my head
/r/MensRights20/03/13 10:12 PM
51

It's rather simple, when your friends are like "Man, I'd totally have nonconsensual sex with that chick" you have to be like "Dude, no, you should get consent or its rape". You should probably get friends who say they want nonconsensual sex out loud first.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 06:52 PM
-2

You're a fool just as damaging as any feminist I've come across. Tell me more about this matriarchy boogieman. Does she keep you from finding a good job and a nice girl? Are you sooo oppressed? Is it all around us, women just can't see it? Get the hell out and open a book
/r/MensRights16/03/13 09:15 PM
2

You know how perpetuated society's script? Society. You're sounding very...female supremacy conspiracy theory. I get where you're trying to go, but someone is going to read it as you're blaming women
/r/MensRights16/03/13 07:43 PM
-1

Never forget that feminism is a product of society. A society that believed women are in need of protection provided by men. Both sexes are hurt by this bullshit gender role. Women are not wilting flowers, men are not their bodyguards, but it derives from or early ancestors, when men literally did protect their family, and thus women from nature, not from feminism.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 06:07 PM
1

Rape isn't about sexual desire. It's about power. bullshit. The theory that rape its a crime of solely power is a result of feminism's dominance on the subject of rape and thus patriarchy theory's application. Rape can be about power. It can also be about sex. It can also be about a mix of the two.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 06:02 PM
2

I gotta stop you at one point. White knighting is not a result of feminism. Its a result of the gender roles established by our society long before feminism existed. There is no need to try to blame feminism for things.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:21 PM
0

God damn it. The discussion of privilege within gender studies is not a total evaluation of ones being. It's the recognition that you may not be aware of how society may affect an individual who has a different attribute. It's not a silencing tactic. It's not a means of scoring people. All it is is a fucking thought exercise!
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:13 AM
6

Douche move? yes. Rape? eh not really.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 04:42 AM
1

I'll run down the list for funsies You have no problem with the gender wage gap. But you hate having to pay for dates. I do have a problem with the gender wage gap as it is evidence of the likelyhood that there are enforced gender roles. However, I do not agree to legislation that is aimed at affirmative action or dumping money into a discrimination boogieman. Yes, gender roles are bad, so lets start getting some science/engineering based classes for all sexes at the lower grade levels. Lets tel…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 03:27 PM
1

demonspawn is not "my own" :p
/r/MensRights15/03/13 12:44 AM
5

They should be able to wear whatever they want. Viewers should also be allowed to enjoy the aesthetic appeal of whatever they wear. Viva la sexuality
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:52 PM
4

To be fair, how many searches are done to look up outrage/information against it? It might totally be idealistic but I can't imagine someone with the INTERNET thinking, "Women shouldn't vote! Let me google to find out reasons why they shouldn't"
/r/MensRights14/03/13 02:54 AM
7

If we are supposed to disregard sex and see people as who they are rather than the (unseen) genitalia between their legs, what does it matter?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 11:44 PM
1

Hmm if I may provide some input. Feminists are just as much members of society as anyone else. Many individuals are guilty of putting feminists on some sort of pedestal, incapable of being effected by the ebb and flow of society, but they are human. Ever ponder why the wage gap is suddenly so important? Because our society has focused on BUY BUY BUY, I need something before the other person, kill or be killed types of mindsets. I want it and I want it now before the other guy; consumerism. Well …
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:59 PM
3

I gotta agree with pundit on this one crashsite. Like you, I very much want to see MRM and feminism work together. The problem is, I find the MRM very much willing to work with feminism if the whole patriarchy theory, men privileged, women oppressed talk gets buried or at least modified, but it's feminism that digs its heels in and refuses to work with MRM (most likely, due to those very theories). Of course there are individuals that are exceptions, we're talking in generalities here.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 01:04 AM
3

this shit is garbage
/r/MensRights11/03/13 11:56 PM
1

sperm can be accessed without direct contact with the man, we do not have a means of making a baby without interacting with the woman
/r/MensRights11/03/13 04:01 AM
2

I believe what Socrates (if you don't pronounce it so crates you are a fool) was trying to say was, women have the ability to reproduce life. If we made men and women absolutely equal, women would still have ability to reproduce and thus would still have an advantage.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 12:40 AM
1

I'm not saying she should stop posting the videos or is a bad person, I'm just disagreeing with her point of view. You cannot reduce the game to only what is present within that game. Back story and reading between the lines is EXTREMELY important to any medium, including games. Even more so when you are trying to analyze a characters particular value within that story. I mean if we ignore all the back and untold story to hamlet, he's just a whiny bitch who hates his uncle. I agree that early vi…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:49 PM
6

that's my finding as well. Yes, douchebags idolize douchebags, this is not news
/r/MensRights09/03/13 01:32 AM
3

Indeed my problem with it. I completely agree that video games, hell all media for that matter, can be very trope-y because tropes guarantee cash flow. It's shitty and I have no problem railing on a weak story, but to suggest it oppresses women is begging the question.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 08:28 PM
1

We're talking late 80s, early 90s here (so far), where the video game demographic was almost entirely male. Of course the main character is going to be male. Do you know of many real female selfless rescuers?
/r/MensRights08/03/13 08:27 PM
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I find her analysis of Peach's position flawed, as it is entirely based on the Patriarchical theory narrative that men are in power and men possess women as property. While it is true the evil villain, Bowser, aims to possess Princess Peach, Mario merely fulfills his gender role as the selfless rescuer. Peach is mario's, and the rest of Mushroom Kingdoms, Monarch. Peach is not his possession, merely a member, the most important member, of his "team" and like any "good" man, he does his duty of h…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 12:30 AM
1

"I am tired of feeling triggered" article summary
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:30 PM
2

ironic coming from such a username. Ahem anyways, you are working under the false pretense that I would be friends with anyone who would said "I'm offended". Regardless, "I'm offended" being bullshit still applies even with the friend scenario. I don't give a fuck if you are offended. It is not my responsibility to placate you, you can leave. In the scenario with the friend, I care if they leave, therefore I am making the choice to placate them, it's not a default. If I so choose to say somethin…
/r/MensRights07/03/13 12:29 AM
9

http://i.imgur.com/LQGwx.png
/r/MensRights06/03/13 08:52 PM
4

That statistic is found under the pretense that rapists can only be penetrators.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 04:59 AM
5

I believe it is an attempt to pull the woman's vote into the minimum wage (why are you worried about ceo's, when we can be worried about jane c. everylady)
/r/MensRights06/03/13 02:25 AM
1

those already exist, its not like harassment is legal
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:47 PM
6

i think you need to look up the definition of harassment again
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:47 PM
6

deluks, no it is not. It happens. Indeed, some of it (I'd even say the majority of it) is guys just trying to pick a girl up ("Hey, how are you?"), but there are most definitely incidents of "I want to fuck you in the ass", wolf whistles, and guys following women in their cars.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 05:56 PM
6

No, I don't think legal means are a way to go about fixing street harassment.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 08:13 AM
1

Hmm you make a good point about how, at the very least, a guy can do (or have the illusion of doing) something about it, even if just ends up tightening the vice, while women are stuck with "well I'm fucked". Such is the side effects of being human doings/beings. Thanks for the food for thought.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 06:32 AM
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I have an issue with this...issue :p humans objectify everyone and everything, its not a matter of sex, its a matter of selfishness. We want to know "what can you do for me" from the waiter, to the mechanic, to the hot chick on the subway. So, to frame it as "women are objectified" is too specific imo. The problem is people are dicks. We lack empathy a lot of the time and I think framing it as "hey, get some empathy" would be a better deal. This is water http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vET9cvlGJQ…
/r/MensRights05/03/13 05:13 AM
21

Gender roles, body issues, street harassment, abortion rights, job segregation
/r/MensRights05/03/13 01:38 AM
0

So POST the article that says she's getting a lighter sentence, don't post crime.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 12:25 AM
1

Personally I'm sick and tired of women behaving badly posts. Sure, if it's "woman gets lighter" sentence it belongs here as evidence of a bias in society, but posts that are just "mom kills 3" does NOTHING.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 09:53 PM
1

Hmm well there is a possibility it will lead more criminals being prosecuted due to people being more willing to slap someone with sexual negligence as opposed to such a "big" crime like rape and B. Repeat offenders having something against them other than just a he said she said. It could also lead to more support for a "shielded" defendant law, as I imagine those that oppose hiding the identity of the accused due do because the known identity brings about past victims
/r/MensRights03/03/13 08:29 PM
6

She was older and liked how I drew ninja turtles /sigh
/r/MensRights02/03/13 08:57 PM
7

I had crushes at 8
/r/MensRights02/03/13 06:30 PM
1

While I agree it's a bit of a stretch to say they meant it's men's fault, it is designed to infer that women wouldn't be dicks if they didn't feel under pressure, it's not their fault, and to that I say bullshit. "Women are not wonderful", they're just as naturally prone to being assholes as anyone else
/r/MensRights02/03/13 06:28 PM
63

they don't need equality, they are equal equal to whom? Equal is not an independent state, it needs a qualifier
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:32 PM
1

If it protected everyone, why was there a need to include the LGBT and immigrant clause? There is no reason why they can't include an additional clause that specifically states men are protected as well, ESPECIALLY in a bill titled the "Violence against women act"
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:28 PM
1

I don't know about you, but when I'm having sex with someone I find myself asking questions like "Do you like that?" and "God you feel good" confirming statements. You don't have to go hardcore legislature to confirm consent. "Every study out there indicates women like men taking control and dislike a 'weak' man" Is exactly what I'm talking about. I am by no means lying this solely at the feet of men. Why do we like this kind of stuff?
/r/MensRights27/02/13 04:38 PM
1

Have you ever pondered why we consider that's a mood killer?
/r/MensRights27/02/13 03:45 AM
1

"Sexism is a double edged sword. It's rather rare for a gender issue to be misandric and not misogynistic and vice versa. The attempt to dress every issue as only misogynistic represents the feminist mentality of seeing women as the ever and only victim which is destructive to the hope of fixing it"
/r/MensRights26/02/13 07:17 PM
27

Also, women's tears cure cancer. Unfortunately, if there were only women, women wouldn't cry.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 07:11 PM
-4

Indeed, it is more dangerous for everyone. Did they state that it wasn't more dangerous for men? Does saying "Working hard, I have increased my chances of getting a raise" mean NO ONE else is going to get a raise? It's an article ABOUT female reports, they are going to talk about female reporters.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 06:21 PM
0

Fighting is still escalating. The article did not say "More dangerous relative to men" It just said "being a female reporter has passed the previous checkpoint of danger levels."
/r/MensRights26/02/13 05:13 PM
1

Kotaku is a gawker branch, please don't post gawker articles here.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 04:32 PM
6

An addendum to number 5: The arguments for number 5 are an if then statement. "I disagree with women joining combat roles in the military. However, IF women are allowed to join combat roles in the military THEN they should also take on the responsibility of being drafted.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 04:28 PM
-6

I don't know, I feel I can agree with the statement. Even if all deaths up to this point were men, an increase in the number and agitation of combat zones means an increase in threat to reporters. Perhaps the reason we haven't seen female war reporters raped/killed is because those around her are more protective?
/r/MensRights26/02/13 04:16 PM
2

I knew I should have went with a flower instead... The tree is not poisoning everyone. There are a few bad apples, don't get me wrong, but the tree is mostly good. As I said, the tree may die, but we should still focus on killing it properly then, rather than bulldozing the whole damn thing.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:28 PM
2

please...please don't bother with godwin's law. Feminists are not nazis. At WORST there are some extremist radical feminists who are equivalent to neo-nazis.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:26 PM
2

First, feminists do not pass laws, though you can say that feminists have had an influence on getting laws passed. Second of all, there is no law saying it is ILLEGAL to help male victims. I believe what you intended to say was they have passed laws that have led to ignoring of male victims, and again, that is a result of their origin, that women are the sole victims of discrimination.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:23 PM
0

who said anything about stay the course? I'm saying let's work smarter.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:41 AM
3

Feminism hasn't stopped to question its origin, you are correct. It just kept going. That doesn't change the fact that we should be disrupting the origin.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:57 AM
3

Good, you understood part of the analogy, that its an absurd suggestion from their position. Starting from a position that women are the only disadvantaged one, it is ridiculous to suggest men need extensive help. Much in the same way that suggesting kittens need a vote is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 12:47 AM
1

See my reply to typhon
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:41 PM
-3

hmm how to put this. Feminism in its entirety is not the excuse. Feminism is a woman's rights movement with a bad starting point, like an apple tree whose roots are tearing up your sidewalk. Yes, if we cut up the roots, the tree may die, but the tree still isn't the problem, it provides good apples. We need to focus still on getting rid of the problem, the roots and hope the tree, the woman's rights advocates, the egalitarians survive.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:39 PM
0

I don't know if I was one of the ones being addressed in the last paragraph, but yes that's my thinking as well, very well said.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:30 PM
2

I share your troubled experience, but we shouldn't get discouraged and start stooping to lower levels of discourse
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:16 PM
-3

No sorry necessary, but I assure you its not a NAFALT thread. Rather I consider it a tactical think tank. I'm not defending feminisms position, but trying to refine how to affect it. I agree ignorance is no excuse, but I'm interested more in correcting than punishing. If we can get rid of the ignorance we will achieve greater change.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:05 PM
-2

I agree equity is a better word/pursuit and I think most people mean equity when they use the word equality
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:57 PM
-3

A false analogy from the feminist perspective. A more accurate one would be if someone said they were for democracy, yet when you suggested that you give kittens the vote...
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:52 PM
3

I do not disagree, but there are far more Christmas christians than westboro's and it would be beneficial to get those Christmas Christians working with us.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:49 PM
-3

Indeed, I'm saying let us focus on dismantling the excuse
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:25 PM
-5

No. I think the definition of equality is about the same for everyone. What is different is the views on what are the current problem areas. Its like pro life or being anti violence. Everyone is prolife and antiviolence, What is different is what people consider is alive or if guns cause violence. Everyone wants everyone to be treated to a standard of good, feminists just believe women are the only ones being treated less than that standard
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:08 PM
2

if you worked with the position that women are the only disadvantaged individuals their actions would be justified, what's wrong is that position is false.
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:51 PM
5

they do want equality, they are just working on a false origin. They wrongly believe women are the only disadvantaged ones. We should focus on proving to/convincing people that the female victim origin is wrong and we will gather more allies
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:48 PM
0

I assure you the vast majority of individuals want equality
/r/MensRights24/02/13 09:13 PM
9

Sexism is a double edged sword. It's rather rare for a gender issue to be misandric and not misogynistic and vice versa. The attempt to dress every issue as only misogynistic represents the feminist mentality of seeing women as the ever and only victim which is destructive to the hope of fixing it
/r/MensRights24/02/13 08:34 PM
4

Men's rights is not women behaving badly
/r/MensRights24/02/13 07:43 PM
2

if you removed whore you might get a better response
/r/MensRights23/02/13 04:59 PM
10

WHAT DOES THAT MATTER?? Just because my cashier once stole an ice cream sandwich from his little brother does not mean I'm going to not buy something from the store. Just because my math professor has a DUI does not mean I'm not going to attend the class.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 11:23 PM
4

I am rather enjoying that the asshats in that thread aren't MRA, but SRS douche bags making themselves look bad.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 05:46 PM
1

thus why i added "(kidding)"
/r/MensRights22/02/13 05:37 PM
1

That's the joke
/r/MensRights22/02/13 03:21 AM
1

No, but she may be browsing the page and come upon it.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 09:09 PM
7

I am reminded of a friend of mine who went to a political protest where they were chanting about removing men from decision making positions about abortion as if women in the positions just COULD NOT come to the same decisions.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 09:29 AM
2

No, I don't think anyone is saying that. I think one could argue though that you work with what you currently have. Work with real world parameters. We definitely need to get men to think more about their health, but creating a mens health site when men don't "worry" about their health is like putting up an anti-rape poster in a womens bathroom (kidding) It's like putting up a notice about drinking on the premises inside a preschool classroom; it's not going to be effective. Lets take it one ste…
/r/MensRights21/02/13 01:12 AM
1

Friend of mine suggested that the reason for this being located on the women's health page is that men generally don't take time for their health. It's their girlfriend/mother who inquires about their health. I can't say I disagree with the rebuttal.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 12:28 AM
27

While I appreciate there at least IS a section for men's health. It is a great representation of how silly a women's health board is as opposed to a just...health...board
/r/MensRights20/02/13 11:05 PM
1

I do not disagree, I'm saying the article is stating "That's bullshit". We, as a society, shouldn't be burning ourselves out, competing with each other at 50 hours a week and letting life pass us by. The overall solution is not necessarily to bring women up to a crazy 50 hour a week standard, but to bring men down to the 30 hour a week life while still being able to economically survive.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 09:43 PM
3

Indeed, now calculate inflation with no increase in income.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 11:38 PM
3

Other than personal experience and the experience of friends and family? EVERYONE should get to work less so they can live life, including parenthood, if they so choose.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 11:06 PM
2

you guys are seriously misrepresenting the article. This is a pc men's rights article. Its a call for the disruption of both male and female gender roles. We need to revamp our economic model so that you don't have to work50 hours just to survive. You should be able to enjoy life, including parenthood, while making enough to survive
/r/MensRights17/02/13 09:15 PM
3

its not bullshit, just misworded. society is designed currently where being a new mother greatly disrupts your career. I don't think the writer meant that employers actively discriminate against women
/r/MensRights17/02/13 09:12 PM
6

this is how I read the article as well. It was not a feminist piece, it was an egalitarian. It was discussing how ducked up traditional roles are and how our current economic social model makes it very difficult to escape them. Men and women should be able to enjoy a balanced life of parenthood and working
/r/MensRights17/02/13 09:03 PM
3

This is a politically correct men's rights article
/r/MensRights17/02/13 08:58 PM
0

and if he had an accent that implied a minority or had a stereotypical "gay" lisp it would be equal
/r/MensRights17/02/13 07:29 PM
4

New small sample study finds douches more likely to think of a tired insult during smack talking when individuals provide easily targeted personal information within the worst gaming community. In other news kkk members more likely to target individuals with high melanin count
/r/MensRights17/02/13 12:19 AM
5

Hmm interesting. I always figured it was meant literally "done in reaction to". This definition seems to take a very narrow view of progress, that it is always good. Furthermore it assumes that progress can ever really be undone; the bell cannot be unrung. How does one define a political view that does not want to return, but is still taken in direct response to the existence and actions of another political view?
/r/MensRights16/02/13 07:43 PM
22

May I suggest listening to girlwriteswhat's rant about "nice feminism" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-OcTSeVcs She does a fairly good job at covering feminists that see their title as "For equality". Your personal belief is great. However, you are wearing a title that is not "for equality". It doesn't matter if I redefine "bicyclist" as "Personal transport user", I am still not allowed to drive a car down the bicycle lane.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 01:40 PM
5

My thoughts as well. I don't want to expand fear mongering and lack of responsibility to men, I want the shit to stop. Baby steps
/r/MensRights16/02/13 01:26 AM
1

Legally, yes you should be able to control where pictures of you are posted to avoid defamation and libel, but this isn't the question. That avoidance of defamation is equivalent to this Lulu app. I'm not asking legally, I'm asking socially, why is it humiliating to be seen naked/having sex? The merry go round pictures holds the same reason; gender roles. You are a man, you are expected to "grow up". A woman is expected to commodify her sex and thus protect it from "thieves". If sex is not somet…
/r/MensRights15/02/13 10:21 PM
2

The literal jump out and rape story? No, very rare. The followed her home from the laundry mat? Honestly I don't know. I need more data.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 04:18 PM
2

Wouldn't an 11' tall, 240lb man die from lack of blood?
/r/MensRights15/02/13 04:11 PM
3

Not necessarily. I'm really skeptical about statistics that include "acquaintances" or "someone they knew". What if she met the guy an hour ago? What if he was the bouncer? What if she has the same class as him? What if they are in the same dorm area, but she's never talked to him? As I imagine these statistics are a result of self reporting, if a victim is asked "Did you know your attacker" and she recognizes him from class, she's going to probably say "yes!" even if she's never talked to him b…
/r/MensRights15/02/13 04:06 PM
1

so it would be equally as humiliating to post pictures of say.... you on a merry-go-round then? The "revenge porn" sites wouldn't exist if we didn't see pictures as humiliating. It's the same concept as "trolls troll because you let yourself get trolled"
/r/MensRights15/02/13 12:37 PM
1

Hmm something to ponder about this subject. If we are aiming for being a sex positive world, why are nude pictures humiliating? It's just a human body. Hell even sex tapes, why are they so "humiliating"? Shouldn't you be proud of your body? Isn't this protection of viewing your body merely a byproduct of the commodification of your sex and thus a product of "the patriarchy"? Isn't this what gives "leering" it's power? I'm not defending the act of posting your ex's personal pictures/video, just t…
/r/MensRights15/02/13 09:54 AM
2

A word of advice for the next time you are in this conversation. The wage gap is not a myth. The wage gap is misrepresented. Yes, women make less than men, it is explained due to the parameters you listed. However, these parameters aren't exactly ideal if they are scripted by society. Because the wage gap is not a direct result of discrimination, policy trying to stop discrimination, research discrimination, or affect adults who have already been indoctrinated by society is futile. Instead, effo…
/r/MensRights13/02/13 02:04 PM
3

That only mermaids can be successful? Yes, fuck those fish people.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:47 PM
1

Well thats more modern though. I assumed when we were discussing pair bonding we were discussing within a scientific sphere, the relationship of animals and early humans.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 11:06 PM
4

Why can't pair bonding be both beneficial to the male and female? The male gets his monopoly, the female gets security
/r/MensRights10/02/13 11:37 PM
8

you are making the common mistake of thinking muscle is the only power. Even in male on female rape I'd imagine the majority of cases involve weapons, drugs, alcohol, binding materials, black mail, or coercion
/r/MensRights10/02/13 11:17 PM
2

Hmm, a very thought provoking statement. It doesn't even have to be about masculism. Is this a problem of our western culture? We seem to be very good at raging and pointing at things and going DONT DO THIS, but we don't often talk about what would be awesome if it was done.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 04:55 PM
6

I....wat? As long as women are meant to feel powerless "myths" involving non brute force power will be popular. She's so close to realizing that power does not and has not only originated in muscle. If only she'd lift her veil Summary of the post: "women, we need to stop using myths that suggest we are dangerous cause it means we won't get any"
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:37 PM
4

well duhhh all guys care about is sex, what else could possibly be important
/r/MensRights09/02/13 09:25 PM
13

even though women's rights issues like equal pay and protection from domestic violence should not be topics up for debate, The king has spoken boys, it is not our place to question him fuck this pompous wind bag
/r/MensRights09/02/13 08:49 PM
3

Does anyone else find it absurd that holding hands with another man automatically infers homosexuality? "guys shouldn't have contact" now the faculty should have broken up the name calling circle, but making then hold hands shouldn't be considered absurd
/r/MensRights09/02/13 12:03 AM
6

Flag it
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:41 AM
9

You're reaching
/r/MensRights04/02/13 12:39 AM
9

That part always bothered me
/r/MensRights03/02/13 11:12 PM
1

Indeed, but that's a long hard fight to change
/r/MensRights03/02/13 12:49 AM
21

Yes. I and most here do. Ideal gender roles are fucked regardless of who they apply to. Again, you don't have to be a feminist to believe that. However, feminist ideology does generally adhere to the idea that women suffer more and to that I cry out bullshit. Life sucks for everyone regardless of gender. Now, do you want to focus on women just because? Go for it, just don't try to tell me it's because women have it worse
/r/MensRights02/02/13 07:16 PM
11

And to press the advance, very very few people here want women to suffer inequality or unwarranted violence. You do not have to be pro feminist to adhere to these ideals, just a decent human being
/r/MensRights02/02/13 07:04 PM
46

Very very few people here want to hurt women
/r/MensRights02/02/13 06:42 PM
-4

O.....k The article is still solid
/r/MensRights02/02/13 03:39 AM
0

Good point, I seemed to have missed that part and recant
/r/MensRights02/02/13 02:16 AM
-5

Solid article
/r/MensRights02/02/13 02:13 AM
1

I feel like this is a case of misuse of a word. I think what the blogger intended was that rape is a crime that within the mind of society only exists between the two genders and cannot exist between same sex or gender queer individuals. I don't think he was using "gendered crime" in the traditional sense
/r/MensRights02/02/13 01:41 AM
1

So object to the framing of the argument, I responded to someone demonizing sexuality
/r/MensRights02/02/13 12:57 AM
12

The issue is not the poster, Though i question the effectiveness, but the lack of a female equivalent. Why not make one?
/r/MensRights02/02/13 12:52 AM
4

bullshit. People should be allowed to enjoy their sexuality regardless of their profession. America needs to stop being afraid of a little nudity.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 08:37 PM
2

It's such a simple fix to make this ok. The true test of manhood, or being a human being for that matter, is respecting anyone.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 10:12 AM
1

i watched it. I have watched other clips from judge judy. I find her to be a fairly reasonable individual (sometimes siding on the side of men's rights issue).
/r/MensRights31/01/13 12:10 AM
1

but it's not necessarily sexist. Did she mean just men?
/r/MensRights30/01/13 10:56 PM
1

I kinda agree with her. Regardless of the sex, you shouldn't be fucking a 20 year old.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 10:07 PM
1

I'm aware that feminists are doing it, I was not implying otherwise. I am also of the opinion that current US dialog does have a heavy feminist swing which would lead to part of society thinking that way. I think the original article was kind of making that point while addressing their fellow feminists. By we I was addressing society as a whole, not just men's rights reddit
/r/MensRights30/01/13 10:00 PM
2

Snarkiness aside, I kind of agree with the original article. We shouldn't be working on the assumption that what men currently do is the "standard" and women should be moving up to it. We should be moving to an equilibrium, plucking out the best of both gender roles for both genders vis-a-vis removing selective services rather than pulling women into it.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 07:30 PM
3

An excellent response
/r/MensRights29/01/13 11:42 PM
2

Actually, "Guy"'s origin is unisex. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=guy
/r/MensRights29/01/13 11:39 PM
1

Ok I lul'd. Well played
/r/MensRights27/01/13 01:29 AM
2

I got something sort of similar. I got "hey guys were really good at sucking it up/society ignoring the pains of the masculine role". I mean, being a home maker and being a corporate worker are both hard work and both have their costs. I just don't think the female half (generalizing) realized just what those costs were. Working seemed like "hey, you just have to do a bit of labor and you become self sufficient, that's easy.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 12:51 AM
7

the author mentioned that the inclusion of women in the military implies that people are not their gender role. I disagree. I think it implies that our brand of war has accelerated to the point that it doesn't matter what your gender is.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 08:47 PM
10

Stupid little college girls believing they speak for all feminists
/r/MensRights26/01/13 01:21 AM
6

I'm of the opinion that the most common offenders of enforcing gender roles on a sex comes from members of the same sex
/r/MensRights25/01/13 10:37 PM
2

Hehe what a wonderful response to "check your privilege" "Check your grasp on reality"
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:43 AM
18

We have so little idea on how the brain works and people are already concluding that because a particular part of the brain fires, we can determine how people are thinking about something?
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:36 AM
1

Well that's amusing.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 11:32 PM
3

/rabble I fucking hate the "numerical score" mentality when discussing privilege. Everyone has subjectivity. Who the hell are "you" to determine the ranking. Understand that person a cannot truly completely understand the subjectivity of a person of "opposite"group, that's all you need to understand
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:44 PM
3

If you honestly believe you can point to a single reason for these tragic events you're a fool. Male gender roles had an effect. Bullying had an effect. Violent media being accessible to someone with trouble had a part to play. Accessibility of a firearm for someone with troubles had a part to play. People need to stop trying to find a quick fix and realize it's an entire system that's an issue
/r/MensRights19/01/13 12:03 AM
2

Just so you and your sister are aware. This piece was apparently originally supposed to be sarcasm. A means of poking holes in the common "avoiding rape" advice. It has since been taken seriously. Take a moment to educate.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:59 PM
132

Could this perhaps be due to the concept that a child is considered the mother's "property" in a matter of speaking?
/r/MensRights11/01/13 08:22 PM
1

yes I'm aware, both groups are dumbasses
/r/MensRights11/01/13 06:46 PM
1

Representative politics is not about whether someone LOOKS like you, but whether someone has political STANCES like you. Bigoted crap is no better than people that didn't vote for the president because "He's black"
/r/MensRights11/01/13 05:31 AM
1

While I'm willing to believe the original intention was sarcasm, it has since been taken seriously. People are really suggesting we need to teach men not to rape. The sarcasm was not effective. http://www.marshall.edu/wpmu/wcenter/sexual-assault/rape-culture/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130104082242AAds9oF http://stfurapeculture.tumblr.com/FAQ
/r/MensRights06/01/13 09:54 PM
2

Sarcasm without context is super effective
/r/MensRights06/01/13 09:43 PM
6

wait wait. OP. If that's true, if the VAWA covered all people due to it's neutral language, then there was no need to edit the act to include native amiercans, immigrants, and LGBT, right? They're all covered just like how men are covered. And thus the republicans version was the correct one, right?
/r/MensRights04/01/13 02:08 AM
6

Now would be an excellent time to write your congressman about how the new VAPA should be gender neutral.
/r/MensRights02/01/13 09:13 PM
2

why does no one remember the whole carrying a baby for a year thing? I know not everyone has kids and I agree that we'd probably be better off not having kids, but damn if people keep doing it.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 09:56 PM
4

the underlying theory of patriarchy, that there are strict gender roles is correct. The nomenclature is foolish, the strict gender roles are not manifested because men are in charge. The privilege system believe to exist due to the leadership role is bull.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 07:03 PM
1

Should our aims be to state that "But mommy, timmy is doing something bad too!" or that men can do good things?
/r/MensRights31/12/12 06:32 PM
3

THOSE BITCHES ARE HARMING AUDIO BOOKS?!
/r/MensRights28/12/12 10:58 PM
30

Wouldn't this same bullshit be the catalyst for the entire "Nice Guy" crap going around?
/r/MensRights28/12/12 09:18 PM
2

Unfortunately, I believe many people are not sympathetic to the issues of men because historically, women have faced more obvious discrimination then men (no voting, wives being basically owned by husbands, etc.). If I may offer a bit of counter thought. I would suggest an edit that reads "issues of men because people believe historically,". Women have not faced more obvious discrimination as men. Voting was shit for everyone. Marriage was a shit deal for both parties. It's just our current spin…
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:43 PM
2

Why not try to fix the corruption rather than throw it in the fire? I've always been a proponent of untying knots rather than cleaning the slate.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:38 PM
2

What makes you think that? One of the earliest laws that was a success for women's rights was one that made it a crime for a man to have consensual sex with a woman if he didn't marry her afterwards. Does that sound "equal rights" to you? sauce
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:32 PM
5

others advocated parallel governments for women you mean like the office of women's health? that's...concerning
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:30 PM
0

I don't think feminists hate men. I think there is much within the discourse of feminism that have developed anti-male leanings due to female focus and bias. I think feminism discourse could use some open-mindedness and counter-thought, but I don't think feminists hate men.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:27 PM
8

I'm kind of flabbergasted how someone can think Male oppression tends to be the result of social restraints and policies that are designed to benefit some men over others, and that’s all. but not female oppression tends to be the result of social restraints and policies that are designed to benefit some women over others, and that’s all.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:20 PM
6

It came from society. Feminism is part of society. VAWA is missing coverage for men it is not male hate
/r/MensRights20/12/12 03:04 AM
1

All? no. some? yes. That doesn't mean they hate men.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:51 AM
1

Salad contains tomatoes. Pizza contains tomatoes. Therefore, salad is pizza?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:48 AM
4

that doesn't make them anti-male.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:46 AM
3

you might want to check my post history. You have misidentified me.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:40 AM
-2

your interpretation is incorrect
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:28 AM
4

lulz godwin's law, you never fail me. I did not say feminism was not a hate group because it was an ideology.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 12:18 AM
3

Blanket denial, always effective
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:53 PM
22

Feminism is inherently pro-female. This may lead to male being ignored or sometimes slandered, but it is not inherently anti-male. They have made errors, but most do not hate male, men, or masculinity.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:46 PM
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Feminism is not a hate group. It's an ideology. Whether flawed or not, whether it contains people who hate or not, it is not a hate group.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 11:28 PM
6

I just don't want to get the snip because it's permanent. I don't know if I might want kids in the future and I'd rather not fuck over future me.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:29 PM
9

Because it was full of traditionalist bullshit?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 09:06 AM
3

CHEK UR PRVLGE!
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:20 AM
6

/facepalm Might want to correct her notion of what patriarchy is supposed to mean (according to "Good" feminists). It's a system created by society, therefore it doesn't "backfire" on men because it wasn't only created by men. Her false notion that women cannot benefit from patriarchy is foolish from a feminists perspective.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:12 PM
6

It could be seen as insulting to either side as well, so it's not like these kind of comments only hurt men. Either it's "Men are always wrong" or "women are bitches who think they're always right". How does this crap prosper?
/r/MensRights10/12/12 05:06 PM
1

Anything regarding the gawker network (including jezebel) is banned
/r/MensRights08/12/12 10:33 PM
3

I don't really have a problem with the creation of more media that would include positive role models for female humans. As long as it does not roll over into censorship of current material we cool.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:06 PM
2

moxie is gross
/r/MensRights06/12/12 12:50 AM
0

I noticed "tries" in the title. Did she get away with it? Did she try to talk police out of arresting her because she's a woman or because of her status? While I agree it is activism to spread awareness, I don't think it was activism for men's rights as much as activism to show corruption in politics.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 11:28 PM
11

No one wants to join my super cool club because the 5th graders say my club is stupid
/r/MensRights05/12/12 10:44 PM
7

this just in, women and men can be douchebags, more at eleven
/r/MensRights05/12/12 10:38 PM
2

Do the vast majority of men who are ruled by patriarchy do anything about it? Nope, we don't. Why? Because societal conformity causes us to support the existing stereotypes by rote. Couldn't the same be asked for the majority of women? Seems to me by that logic they are benefiting just as well
/r/MensRights05/12/12 10:35 PM
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well men are so much stronger and your supposed to be the responsible ones! "Fine, get back the kitchen then, men have work to do." Seriously? She said that?
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:10 PM
-1

I DESPISE equating women with the suffering of color and LGBT. Women had it rough, sure, but it's not the same.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:08 PM
-2

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. They're plugged…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:07 PM
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Most sexist ideology? You're going down the wrong path. Feminism has particular aspects that are flawed. Talk about patriarchal theory, rape culture, and the focus on male privilege. Talk about how feminism should change, but I do not advise just bashing it.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:36 PM
5

you better be poe-ing
/r/MensRights04/12/12 12:56 AM
1

In my opinion they are very different. Macho culture is the crap we are fed. That we should all like sports, fighting, drinking, and slapping girls asses. The use of bro is far too common for the Macho culture.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 10:44 PM
2

That's impossible. Men, being the chief providers of technology, created the lightbulb to screw
/r/MensRights03/12/12 10:11 PM
1

indubitably /monocle
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:41 PM
1

Yes, but how different is the question. It is not black and white, but (50) shades of grey.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:47 PM
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I think macho culture is a load of shit. Now masculine culture, that's just groovy.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:46 PM
0

That word, everyone keeps using it. I don't think it means what anyone thinks it means. :p
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:42 PM
0

I think patriarchy has become a crutch, yes. Rather than thinking things out (and thus getting to working answers rather than crazy shit) the answer is "the patriarchy". Take the wage gap for example. Patriarchal theory tells them "society doesn't want women working, it wants them to get back to making babies" and thus they try to create legislation that will strong arm corporations which will only lead to less women being hired. If instead, one work with logic you will find that we live in a ca…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:37 PM
0

Hilary Clinton and Michelle Obama, like most politicians, listen to what "Experts" tell them and rarely think for themselves. The same is true for most feminists, I would guess. The voices of feminism are radical, therefore feminism is largely radical.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 08:32 PM
1

I don't think you need patriarchy to be a feminist. Many of the early feminists said women should vote because "damn it we should be able to vote, we're citizens too". There was no need for a patriarchy, only sound logic. A feminist only needs to be someone who is focused on the rights of women, and that's fine. You want to focus just on women, go right ahead.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 06:56 PM
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actually via wikipedia. Patriarchal theory is classified under radical feminism. The wage gap and rape culture are ideas who's roots are in patriarchal theory and might (probably?) wouldn't exist without it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism "Radical feminism is a current perspective within feminism that focuses on the theory of patriarchy as a system of power that organizes society into a complex of relationships based on the assertion that male supremacy["
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:47 PM
2

In respect to gaining acceptance of this image, you might want to include at least one woman's rights issue in the egalitarian sphere
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:45 PM
2

huxley was more accurate
/r/MensRights02/12/12 05:00 PM
-5

Please don't call it a war on men...
/r/MensRights01/12/12 10:24 PM
1

yeah that's where i hit a brick wall too..
/r/MensRights01/12/12 02:54 AM
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I don't think there is a war on men. I also don't think there is a war on women. I think life is hard. I think people should get a helmet.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:39 PM
0

Is english not your native language? Is that it?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 09:02 PM
4

Apparently, in his view, girls feel bad about the abuse not so much because abuse is inherently bad, but because “society” tells them it’s bad; he returns to this theme repeatedly. Well.... how do we know it's not because society tells them it's bad?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:32 PM
3

I'm not disagreeing with you... I think there are biological factors involved in toy preference. However, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING SURE THAT IS THE FACTOR RATHER THAN GENDER ROLES
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:27 PM
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To a child, our preference means everything. Remember we are talking about developing brains. Again, that's fine if theirs tends to be the same as ours. Still let them decide.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:31 PM
0

Nope, Kyriarchy is an adaptation of patriarchy to make the theory more appealing to true discredited groups; racial, sexual orientation, handicap. It still adhere's to the believe that men are held superior to women.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:25 PM
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that's fine. Let them have a preference. There's nothing wrong with making sure it's THEIR preference rather than OURS.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:17 PM
1

because it feeds off long-standing stereotypes of women as deceitful, manipulative gold diggers. Oh the irony. It hurts. It hurts so good.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:33 PM
3

I don't feel appreciated.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 01:35 AM
1

world wide? nation wide?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:52 AM
1

how much do you think rape happens?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:31 PM
1

It could be suggested that it would be IDEAL if the world was a place of peace. But as long as there is freedom bad things happen. Wear a helmet.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 09:36 PM
1

Except their are two situations where responsibility lies. A rapist is at fault for raping. The victim is not responsible for being raped. Rape is more common within a bad part of town. The victim was at fault for being in a bad part of town. Try another example. A soldier is shot while on duty by an enemy soldier in a combat zone. The victim is not responsible for being shot. He is responsible for not being behind cover.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 08:26 PM
1

Once again, understanding the responsibility one plays at putting themselves at risk is not the same as stating it is their fault that it happened. A rapist is a rapist. However, foolishness is foolishness. I have no qualm with recognizing someone was foolish. Though you will gain nothing by telling the victim they were foolish. Using it as an example to prevent future foolishness is wisdom
/r/MensRights27/11/12 07:58 PM
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Yes. However facepalming doesn't really happen. More often than not what ends up happening is someone says "People should avoid the part of town where she died" and people take it as a personal attack on the victim.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 06:44 PM
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I don't mean that there is some universal standard for doing it, simply that it is sometimes given as an offhand justification (my own mother, in fact, gawked at the screen at the story of a rape victim when the location was given, "Over there she could only be drunk, and probably dressed in appropriately, too! It's no wonder she got raped!") I caution you over the use of anecdotal evidence. Often times in my experience with said phrases, the individuals saying as much are often trying to provid…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:53 PM
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No, men do not frequently claim that women who dress... People have suggested there is correlation between what you wear and the chance of you being victimized. Are they incorrect? Yes, there is not a correlation, however there is a difference between being responsible for an act and being responsible for putting yourself in risk of an act
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:52 AM
1

Why is there an assumption that because one enjoys a physical aspect of an individual, that that aspect is the ONLY thing the target is noted for. I like my girlfriends breasts. I like them a lot. However, you better damn well believe I enjoy her intellegence and creativity.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 12:50 AM
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What I contemplate is, under the presupposition that your values, both positive and negative and constructed by society, is it not possible that you feel that way because you are "told" to feel that way?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:05 PM
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I'm in support of your sister on this one pending that it was just a threat to scare them off. I'd give the benefit of the doubt to her, she could (and probably would) just tell the cops they were harassing her. At the end of the day, when someone is giving you trouble, I don't care if you tell the you are going to murder their entire family if it removes the threat.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:06 PM
3

I have never heard this term before.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:44 AM
4

You can't get lost visiting every single location in the world
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:43 AM
5

The pay gap DOES exist, however it is explained
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:21 PM
2

Did you just "what about the wimmenz?" lol don't worry I'm not going to give you shit. You're right, both men and women do have absurd gender roles forced on them. I don't like either of them.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 02:15 PM
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WHY ARENT YOU ADHERING TO WHAT I THINK IS IDEAL?!
/r/MensRights22/11/12 02:25 AM
1

hmm indeed. If discrimination is happening, it needs to stop, regardless of the reason. I just like search for sources of issues.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 10:49 PM
1

The question this kind of study makes me ponder, assuming it's on the up and up, is what is this the result of? If there is a bias against women is it from before or after the effects of feminism? Is it because scientists think women are less adept or that affirmative action has poisoned the well?
/r/MensRights21/11/12 01:25 AM
2

She also apparently wants us to tear down art of the past so that the number of women created pieces are equal to the number of mens, because thats how equality works.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 10:55 PM
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Perhaps you should read tumblrinaction instead of just cross posting it. http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/13h8sa/paternity_tests_are_misogyny_now_god_damn_it/ It's satire
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:21 AM
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Wow what a great generalization you got there Evan. How about no. I know of many women with hobbies. Video gaming, card games, crafting, all sorts of physical activities, writing.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:18 AM
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So far for me what has worked is "Hi, I like your dress. What do you think of X. My name is Nemo" Followed by "Hey want to go check out a movie or something sometime" Liking a photo or a couple photos? That's fine. Liking 20 photos in a sitting? That's creepy. I had a girl do it to me. It was creepy.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:13 AM
1

Yes, but the hard part is getting your finger that deep edit: For those unaware I did a google search. Apparently jelqing is a "natural" penis enlarging technique.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:12 AM
1

Much like poop jokes, it's within the lowest form of comedy and usually shows a weak comedian. However, it should not be censored. As for phrases like "I just raped that noob". It's a phrase stating that you just violently violated an enemy. How is it not accurate. Oh, because it's a bad concept we should avoid it at all costs? Give me a break. Life sucks get a helmet.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 01:12 AM
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that's not expressing interest. Sorry bro, that's creepy
/r/MensRights20/11/12 01:09 AM
2

hmm, very interesting theory. However, how does this involve men's rights?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 10:05 PM
2

However in ye ol times the entire premise of being a single man or woman was to "work" towards being in a relationship. The single man was being designed and groomed to be a breadwinning husband and the single woman designed and groomed to be a stay at home wife.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:35 PM
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and thus why the term "patriarchy" is inadequate to title the issue. Platocracy or ideal gender roles would be more accurate.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:19 PM
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Promiscuity: This is a fallacy, one brought to us by our modern media. Men were not allowed to sleep around any more than women were. Both people were shunned, or worse, attacked. Education: You have a daughter and a son. There are two fields that need to be fulfilled for the family to survive. Care taker and bread winner. There is no way in hell one person can achieve both living on a farm in early america. Are you going to have the daughter educated so that she can be a brainy woman sitting by…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 05:18 PM
2

eeeh they're both "sluts" to the contemporary society. Sleeping around raises questions.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:57 AM
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Why is it when a man sleeps around he's a stud and when a girl does it she's a slut? Answer: he's not. This is a narrative brought onto us by media working with the convenient seed spreader mythos.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 03:25 PM
2

ahem... WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MEN'S RIGHTS?! This isn't even feminists behaving badly. It's drawing nonexistent correlations to make it appear feminism is behaving badly. For fuck sakes.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 02:25 AM
1

Alright, now you have the availability heuristic in peoples heads; apply it to rape. Rape is terrible, but frequent? No. Just a headliner subject.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:48 AM
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Copied: There is an instinctual uneasy feeling that women sometimes get when walking past a certain group of men. A feeling that makes us hold our breath and look forward, avoiding any action that could be interpreted as an invitation. But our intuition is often sadly correct: conversation will stop, eyes will follow us and a comment will be made. Those who know me know that I have never been shy about how this makes me feel. I've had friends laugh that one day I'll get myself in a scuffle for c…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:54 PM
1

I catch your drift. However, when the moral/religious belief of the woman would kill someone (as those that oppose abortion believe a child is a life), the United States has a policy to say "no". Believe me, I'm on the side of saying abortions should be allowed within time constraints, however I can understand my opponents position. I don't think it's right for either side to say they know definitively the answer.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 05:41 PM
1

ah I see. Your question was sort of ... offputting because you used the word gender role. Is there benefit in individuals not taking on the classic capitalist/ male gender role of "money is the most important thing"? You damn well believe it. That's one of the frustrations I have with the feminist movement. I find myself asking "Wait, why the fuck are we moving away from enjoying time with friends and family?"
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:18 PM
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/rabble rabble It's not a woman's rights issue OR a men's rights issue. It's a moral and scientific dialog asking the question, "When does a human being become a human being" I'm tired of both the right and the left misconstruing this debate.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 10:14 AM
0

I think the traditional female gender role, like the traditional gender role served a purpose at one time, but has outlived it's purpose. No one should have gender roles of any form thrust upon them.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 10:08 AM
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I saw the question differently. I think there is much that feminism fights that I agree with, I just don't agree with how they go about it. Feminism is right about a lot of things, but things that are exclusively punishing to women and supporting of men? Not many exist. My general advice to you is do not fall into the oppression olympics commonly found within this realm of debate. It doesn't matter if men have less, a righteous individual fights for men and women. On to responses: Take any socia…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 04:28 AM
1

4th, you're the 4th fucking person to post this crap. STOP IT
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:44 AM
1

a persons individual fetish is subjective yes. "Mike likes feet, mary likes leather." That idea that secondary sexual characteristics can be and are fetishized is not. "People can fetishize chest hair, people fetishize breasts"
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:25 AM
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Yes. I don't think it's a matter of opinion. Anything can be fetishized.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:39 AM
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men's rights reddit is not "Women behaving badly"
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:58 AM
2

The men's rights reddit is not "Women behaving badly"
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:57 AM
2

Alright lets start over. Can sexual characteristics be fetishized?
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:52 AM
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Step 1: Toplessness is Fetishized, and thus banned, because they are secondary sexual organs. Step 2: What makes breasts secondary sexual organs? Step 3: (Your part) they are secondary sexual organs because they represent sexual maturity. Step 4: (My response) If that were true, why do we not censor other representations of sexual maturity? Thus I argue that they are not secondary sexual organs because we don't consider chest hair a secondary sexual organ. Thus, that is not why they are banned.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:39 AM
1

your initial response implied that the fetishization, and thus censoring, of breasts was acceptable
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:17 AM
1

You and I believe breasts should be revealed.But there is a bias in current western culture for women not being able to reveal their chest. It doesn't have to do with them being secondary sexual organs, as there are other signs of someone reaching maturity that are not censored. I honestly don't know the reason. My guess is that it derives originally from protecting the important bits and the original reason has been forgotten in time. Regardless, at the end of the day there is a bias.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:56 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:53 PM
2

As do I, but the two of us a society do not make
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:08 PM
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Within western society: Social gender roles including sexual persecution by religious zealots, body image enforcement, and gender interest relation (your a girl, you must play with dolls). Career discrimination due to pregnancy. Birth Control and abortion. When there are cases of actual victim blaming it's fucked up. The discrediting of women in the STEM fields (whether it is a result of evopsych or not, it should not be -assumed- a woman is worse in those fields). Rape and domestic violence (th…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:01 PM
3

Businesses not allowing people with no shirts is quite different than city/state law against a bare female chest
/r/MensRights14/11/12 10:50 PM
2

Why don't we consider hairy chests indecent then? /devilsadvocate
/r/MensRights14/11/12 10:42 PM
3

A neutralized troll is as effective as an honest post
/r/MensRights14/11/12 10:13 PM
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As nicky pointed out, there are two different ways to answer your question. Do you want a guy to act chivalrous towards you? Talk to him about it. Say, "Hey, I like the old school chivalrous interaction between a man and woman." Note, that you should probably take on the "yang" to this "ying" and be the proper lady or else you're just exploiting him. Do you want chivalry to return as a social mold for men? Fuck you. I mean that in the nicest of ways. To imply that men should take on a gender rol…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 09:41 PM
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Are you guys kidding?! Of course I would have a great time. I HAVE A TIME MACHINE
/r/MensRights14/11/12 09:28 PM
1

no... it's not. The MRM is not men's rights. It's an organization of people. Do you think there was no one who cared about men's rights before the MRM?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:28 AM
1

you're implying men's rights is equivalent to the MRM, that's as folly as suggesting women's rights is equivalent to feminism
/r/MensRights14/11/12 05:20 AM
2

whats this have to do with a leg bone?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:20 AM
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i suggest care in who you address. I am an ally of this reddit and have found they often use more logic around here than most locations on the internet. No one is perfect however. In addition, my statement did not have any statements of logic, but judgement.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:10 AM
2

that is a better representation, thank you
/r/MensRights14/11/12 02:46 AM
5

yeah, 6 and 7 are fucked up, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and think this is more banter about "Don't get obsessed" rather than something she'd actually execute.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 02:36 AM
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shoving it up your ass may be effective, but I think most people prefer it administered orally.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 02:32 AM
1

eh i don't think this is really a sex issue. Even if you see it as someone being a dick, it's just one person.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 02:31 AM
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I don't know. None of these seem too unreasonable too me. Basically don't get obsessed over the game with some tongue in cheek "I'm an awesome girlfriend"
/r/MensRights14/11/12 02:14 AM
2

the idea is poorly represented then.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:59 AM
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it suggests there is a conscious motive by women to economically dupe men. Sorry, I don't buy that. Could there be a sociobiological undercurrent to trade protection for babies? Sure, but women are not vindictive salesmen. They buy into the lovey dovey romance just as much as men. A teen girl is just as influenced by her hormones as a boy. This is not an us versus them.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:54 AM
1

I disagree still, I think the mrm would phase out of existence without feminism And just because something is a reaction to an action, does not mean it ceases to exist the moment the event ends. In fact, many reactions result in the end of the primary event.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:47 AM
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there are several issues i have with this article. One of which is most of it is not based on the real world -.-
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:46 AM
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Does anyone get the feeling every once in a while that all the social oppression exerted on women originates from other women? Then they say to themselves, "A woman wouldn't oppress herself, it must be men!" And thus we find ourselves in todays position.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 01:14 AM
2

What a moronic post from multiple perspectives First of all, feminism's patriarchal ideology allows for this. She's "influenced". Second, you are implying sexuality is a problem.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 10:38 PM
1

Individual, human, guy.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 08:13 PM
1

I disagree. Were it not for feminism, the pursuit of human rights, both male and female might be cared for.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 08:12 PM
2

No i got you. You can't undo sexist division by creating your own subgroup. I agree with you. How do you propose we get people over there? a link i just read: http://luxperci.com/social-neutralization/
/r/MensRights13/11/12 02:47 AM
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Erasmus you're way off on this. His example is an inequality of biology. Your example is a inequality created because of biology.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 02:46 AM
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well feel free to join us at /r/egalitarnism or /r/egalitarian or /r/genderegalitarian It's not like the groups don't exist, you have to come up with some way to get people to join it and start talking about it. You're also going to need to find a way to squash people that suggest any kind of MRM/anti-feminist talk within those groups is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 02:09 AM
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because when you are fighting an enemy it does not pay to divide your banners.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:02 PM
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The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. Emphasis mine
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:55 PM
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What this man (or woman) has said. I can't exactly say I'm an MRM, but I am an ally of it as I see it as a tool to enhance, and thus dismantle, feminism.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:33 PM
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Men and women are wired differently. We are biologically not identical. However, society plays a strong role in enhancing and amplifying those differences to the point of absurdity. To be honest, I think it's a stupid debate. The answer is both. There are natural differences, there are differences that are brought on by society. Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:09 PM
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Population of americans in those situations: 45000 in iraq, lets say an equivalent number in afghanistan. Population of americans: 311 million Protection in those situations: Body armor, tactics, and weaponry. Protection in america: Semi-automatic rifles at best.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:50 PM
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no, similar, but not identical
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:34 PM
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I have tried this with local feminist friends. There is great resistance. Every time I have tried, they say "yeah, an egalitarian movement would be great, but I support feminism because..." it has more history or is more active or women have it worse or the patriarchy or feminism is egalitarian (that's a big one). I have pretty much given up on trying to create as it seems I have to destroy instead. One cannot build on a rocky foundation I didn't mean you were literally preaching, it's a turn of…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 09:19 PM
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I think you will find many individuals agree with you here, pho. Many individuals, myself included, consider ourselves egalitarians and would love to see an actual egalitarian movement develop. However, the issue is you are preaching to the wrong choir, feminism needs to stand down. Feminists are not wrong when they state that the MRM is a reactionary cause to feminism. Its creation is a result of feminism going off the deep end. I think if feminism were to drop patriarchal theory, rape culture …
/r/MensRights12/11/12 08:54 PM
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It is possible to have some control of pregnancy through these methods, yes. However, within the same vein as "Don't go into a dark ally at night", don't get sex advice from wikipedia
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:28 PM
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I agree, But on this paticular matter it's to an extent. Yes, the research shows that there is an attraction to particular toys for each sex. However, it is not society's place to enforce that attraction. If girls want to play with dolls and boys trucks generally, great. If a girl wants to play with trucks, also great.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:26 PM
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do not take sex advice from wikipedia please. Thats like buying condoms at the dollar store
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:58 AM
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I take it as a sign of respect, even if it's false. You can't have an ever-man's vote because every-man has different viewpoint. We're not easily strung along by a single topic. It's like how I hear my democratic friends say they are going to vote for obama on gay marriage alone. Really? Your going to choose the man in charge of our military and economic decisions based on gay marriage?
/r/MensRights29/10/12 07:59 AM
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Here's the problem I have with this concept. Yes, women in other countries do have a shitty life. However, a feminist movement alone will not solve the issue. Hell, feminism in OUR country isn't what allowed women to work, vote, or control their body. What you need to do is add the infrastructure and technology that allowed people to rise up. The people in those countries need industrialization, clean water, abundant food, fire stations, hospitals, and a police force. They need all the technolog…
/r/MensRights27/10/12 11:03 PM
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not in science but in obsolete Hegelian and Marxist ideas about how “social constructs” and “societal pressures” influence peoples roles in society. Well society does play pressures. But you must ask where did the design for these societal pressures come from? You must dig deeper.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 09:29 AM
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Not exactly, kyriarchy is patriarchal theory with an adoption of racism/sexual orientationism/classism. It's still patriarchal theory.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:30 AM
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In my opinion he is quite spot on. Gender roles do have a part to play in women getting paid less. That's why I argue that the pay gap is not a myth, but is misrepresented when it is said it is due to discrimination. My one qualm I have with his statements is how he presented it, and it's not necessarily his fault. The way he presented his response is with the common tone of women being the victim, that gender roles are only negative towards women, instead of gender roles being oppressive to bot…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 12:34 AM
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You thi…
/r/MensRights23/10/12 09:44 AM
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are..you..retarded?
/r/MensRights23/10/12 08:46 AM
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indeed, but her point is you cannot state that all games are supposed to be...
/r/MensRights21/10/12 12:05 AM
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I disagree with you. Her statement is correct. Video games can by a social message on the problematic views of society, however video games are not supposed to be a social message on the problematic views of society.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:49 PM
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Murders are going to murder, you should expect it. Having social commentary in the hopes of reform is not a bad thing.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 12:50 AM
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Indeed. "fight sexism with sexism!" wait wat www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s182/text
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:20 AM
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Fair paycheck act. Made it illegal to fire someone for discussing their paycheck with other employees. more research for the wage gap Provided funding for female salary negotiation training
/r/MensRights17/10/12 10:32 PM
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ehhhh it's true, however it's misrepresented. Women are paid 77c/$1, however it is not due to discrimination, but life choices made by women and men. As an example, a man is more likely to work extra hours and take a job that's further from home in exchange for higher pay. A better representation would be that men make $1.30/$1 made by a woman.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 02:02 AM
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I think a distinction has to be drawn here. I don't believe masculinity has a greater value. I think immediate and overtly useful jobs have greater value to society and those jobs have been assigned to masculinity. We've just become so indoctrinated to assume miner = male. To state it simply. It's not "You have a penis, so you are of value". It's "You are a miner, so you are of value. Miners should not have wombs" I personally believe the second part to be outdated edit:On second thought, I thin…
/r/MensRights16/10/12 10:46 PM
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lets run the gambit shall we? What makes someone a bdsm sex toy? I'm thinking form fitting latex or leather. Wonder woman was designed by a guy who loved rope play and submission. Aquaman is obviously into watersports.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:09 AM
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even then his response is valid. Women can bulk up to 250-300 pounds. Most women choose not to, the question is, is it by "choice" or is it societal influenced?
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:15 AM
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no worries
/r/MensRights16/10/12 02:42 AM
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?? You mean the douchebag interviewer? The one I was addressing when I said the "douchebag interviewer"? Your "no" doesnt make any sense. You're agreeing with me.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 01:02 AM
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She said she expected to get oogled. I didn't get the impression that she was offended over the oogling. I got the impression she was offended about the douchebag interviewer and the guys pointing at her tits during pictures (what the hell, really?)
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:48 PM
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A douchebag interviewer is not the typical event of a con.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:36 PM
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So can an office suit. The inclusion of the bdsm sex toy line is to try to discredit her complaint which is bullshit.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:28 PM
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Well to be fair, addressing "You guys" would be those that have already posted and voted in this thread... the fools
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:00 PM
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You mean the one with the crystal (not an o ring)? as in a cat collar? Black cat? Slave drivers drank lemonade. Therefore, anyone who drinks lemonade is a slave driver /s They might be. The female superheroes are male-uber-fantasies; exaggerated and impossible female proportions. The male costumes are also "bdsm" wear btw
/r/MensRights15/10/12 09:56 PM
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then aren't all superheros bdsm sex toys? Everyone is wearing skin tight costumes. Sorry, black leather one piece a bdsm sex toy does not make.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 09:46 PM
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Uh... guys. First of all, she's not dressed as a BDSM sex toy. She's dressed as black cat from spiderman. The guy interviewing her was a total douchebag to the point I think he was a shock jock. What he did wasn't cool at all, regardless of what she wore. Complaining about people looking at you? Yeah, that's bullshit. Complaining about someone being a douchebag? No, she's in the right. Think with your fucking brains guys. You're looking like fools.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 09:33 PM
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If men could get pregnant, they wouldn't be men. The entire human history would change. Woman would be the physically stronger element, men would be more cherished. Literally all that would change is the name we use to identify the type of person. Suggesting what would happen when one switches the sexual organs, but not the effect of them is stupid. Or are they suggesting what if men were Hermaphrodites? In that case, the sex that had not taken on that adaptation would have died out and we would…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 08:38 PM
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Let them touch the stove
/r/MensRights13/10/12 09:07 AM
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doesnt belong here, has nothing to do with MRM. Men's rights is not "Women are doing things we don't like" reddit
/r/MensRights13/10/12 08:16 AM
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Socially and financially liberal. democratic socialist
/r/MensRights10/10/12 06:46 PM
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men have more job related injuries. Women visit the doctor more often.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 04:55 AM
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Gender equality is about giving women equal access when they are equally as good as men. It's about providing a level playing field....Gender equality is NOT about penalising either gender in order to artificially create a level playing field where one doesn't exist! Men are shown to be STATISTICALLY MORE LIKELY TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT! Therefore they should pay higher insurance! So then women should pay more for medical insurance right? And we shouldn't be angry that companies don't want to hire a …
/r/MensRights10/10/12 02:21 AM
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"We don't know how big, so lets assume it's terrible! Can we have our funding now?" The conviction rate is 58%, the attrition rate is 12%. I just did not know the proper term.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:49 PM
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Also note that the actual number of rape cases that go to conviction are about the same. The majority of cases are dropped for a multitude of reasons from "couldn't find the guy" to "not enough evidence"
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:39 PM
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To attack someone is assault. To suggest that it is considered acceptable is to identify something as (something that leads to) rape culture. People do not consider it acceptable when they know the story behind it.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:26 PM
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I had a debate about this the other day. I don't think it's right to draw a connection between this and rape culture. However, it was assault.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:51 AM
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... agreed. And when I say it's "for a couple bucks" I don't mean literally just filling their bank accounts. The money is to support the family. But why is it the men needs to sacrifice for the finances of the family and the woman has to sacrifice for the care of the family. BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP, though in my opinion the men's sacrifice is more fucked up than the women's. Our aim should be something a bit more even. Both the mother and father put in financially AND care-ly.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 09:19 PM
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No, see you're shooting yourself in the foot. The gap does EXIST however it is EXPLAINED. The gap due to discrimination is 2%, the gap due to personal choices is the rest. My problem ( and the problem of men's rights) is why men are making the "personal choice" of sacraficing their lives for a couple bucks.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:22 PM
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You are in the wrong discussion area if you don't think gender roles are an issue. The assumption that men should work their fingers to the bone for their family is bullshit. I am no ally of traditionalists.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:13 PM
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you really REALLY need to read the rest of my comments before posting this crap. You're barking up the wrong tree. The wage gap DOES exist. However, the problem is that society sees it as a problem for women (Why aren't women making as much as men) instead of the other way around (what are men doing to make so much more than women). What you stated, working hard jobs, is what I already covered.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:13 PM
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100/77 = 1.298...
/r/MensRights04/10/12 08:09 PM
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I agree, you need to reread my post. Men get paid 130% for sacrificing blood, time, and family. The fix however is not more litigation for women, but a change to male gender roles.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 11:30 PM
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The wage gap does exist, it's just misrepresented. Women do not make 77c to a man's dollar. Men make on average 130% of what women make. And btw, that 30% does not come free.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 11:08 PM
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Something to contemplate is why you assume the "male" standard is the right one. We have been indoctrinated with this capitalist society to "buy shit we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like". I understand we need money to pay for loans, take care of our families, and keep food in our bellies, but take a pause and assess how much you really need. I'm not saying we go back to our traditional bullshit gender role ways, but I'm suggesting we break out of it in the dire…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 10:05 PM
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in my opinion that bias sits squarely in the obvious difference between men and women: baby making. I'm sorry, but we live in a capitalist culture. I don't like it at all, but companies are designed to make money. If they have to decide between employee A who will work 10 years and employee B who will work 8 years and quit they're going to go with employee A. If you want to be able to "Fix" this issue there is only one way and it has nothing to do with women's rights. You have to enforce paterni…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 09:35 PM
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yes, it's proof that men are trained to "chase" sex and women are trained not to show their desire. also homophobia
/r/MensRights02/10/12 09:06 PM
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does anyone have the exact quote? As I recall he didn't use the word rape or even sexual assault. He said something along the lines of "to avoid becoming victimized.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:15 PM
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Think of high school. What did one guy do when the other guy pissed him off? What did girls do when girls pissed each other off
/r/MensRights27/09/12 06:57 PM
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When men get angry, or "hateful" they often express it openly and overtly. When a woman gets angry, or "hateful" they often express it covertly with whispering and social attacks.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 06:06 PM
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Depends on the reasoning behind it. If it's because she's a woman, fuck that noise. If it's because she is his mom and deserves some respect, I'm in support.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 01:04 AM
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i assure you, there is a pill list, thought it may not be identified as "the pill list"
/r/MensRights20/09/12 04:34 AM
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Pills do not get added to the pill list for free
/r/MensRights18/09/12 09:04 PM
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You can find them online. last time I looked it was around 90k a year without my stipulations
/r/MensRights18/09/12 08:41 PM
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don't forget you could also have one rapist raping 300 girls. Yes look at the numbers some time. Make sure they are rape numbers and don't have sex assault or harassment included. Make sure they are convicted cases. Make sure they do not include the "unreported guess". Also make concession for 18/16 year old "you touched my little girl!" statutory rape. Make sure it doesn't include morning after regret. Keep in mind sometimes there are bad convictions. Let me know what you come up with.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 07:28 PM
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TerryMorganFreeman recently had a post about the financial costs of birth control versus birth that laid out how he believes it costs more, I'll try too find it later. To be honest I haven't done the numbers up on it and am of the personal opinion that birth control being easily available is a good thing. However I am willing to hear arguments that disagree. The tender years was useful and necessary at the time, however with the aimto dissolve gender roles any sex rights group should be actively…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 07:22 PM
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I don't think you even have to say "teach society not to rape". That falls within the realm of rape culture theory. We already do pretty damn well teaching society not to rape and we punish rapists very heavily. Instead I would suggest saying "fuck the religious fundamentalists" and teaching some real sex ed already, not this "abstinence and how to put a condom on a banana" crap. We need to teach body language so that when boy/girlfriend A sees Significant other B show signs of "I don't like thi…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:38 PM
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This has NOTHING to do with men's rights
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:27 PM
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While you are correct, you did state a pet peeve of mine feeds into the feminist idea that all men are rapists it really does paint all men in the light that it takes but a short skirt and a dark ally before they snap No it does not. It states that all rapists are rapists. It paints all rapists in the light that it takes but a short skirt and a dark ally before they snap. This vein of thought can have its responsibility of existence laid at the alter of feminism's fear mongering.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:16 PM
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Indeed, and I wish those who opposed said statements opposed it properly. IMO, much like the abortion debate, the arguement gets twisted into an appeal for emotion, "You're blaming victims/You're infringing on our rights!" rather than just a logical smackdown "advising modest clothing as risk supplement is erroneous!/The fetus is not a human!"
/r/MensRights18/09/12 05:13 PM
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Oh NAFALT, Shish, I appreciate your point of view and I agree. True feminism, without patriarchal theory, rape culture theory, and male privilege focus is not so bad. However, generalities exist. An idiot thinks they apply to everyone, a fool believes they apply to no one. The majority of feminists fall within this belief. Fortunately (I guess) most of it is unconscious, women are prone to looking out for themselves. True feminism wants women to fight along side men in war (notably, the potentia…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 04:54 PM
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Gandhi and king were average Johnnys
/r/MensRights17/09/12 10:40 PM
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Because you don't make the world a better place by saying "they did it first, so I get to be an asshole" be a fucking paragon of good
/r/MensRights17/09/12 10:25 PM
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Well duh, any male penetration is rape
/r/MensRights13/09/12 01:11 AM
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But you only bind it after you have penetrated it with your foot. surely a sign of men stepping on the oppressed
/r/MensRights12/09/12 08:24 PM
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but the theme of slutwalk is not "that suggestion is erroneous" its "omg blaming the victim !!"
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:29 PM
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wow sigil, you give rapists a lot of credit, as well as the power of cleavage.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:22 PM
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No, he's implying hooligans are largely hooligans. Why does everyone automatically conflate men with bad person
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:17 PM
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all this means is that potentially you could undo the majority (but not all) the differences IF you could get several generations to take on the opposite of the assigned gender role. That seems improbable, especially with current generation bias added to the mix.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 06:17 PM
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It's both. All gender role issues are men's and women's issues. No more oppression olympics
/r/MensRights10/09/12 06:07 PM
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i personally don't find anything wrong with eminem's song either.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 10:18 PM
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I think you guys are being a bit too thin skinned. The point is to see her as being fucking nuts. there are pieces of the shining and misery for a reason
/r/MensRights05/09/12 07:05 PM
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I can respect that point of view. I think it's a bit flawed, but I can respect it.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 05:28 PM
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I think you have to set the bar WAY earlier for fear mongering than giving bad advice. I think the propensity for the belief that rape is "common" and that a rapist is on every corner leads to far more fear mongering than clothing based prevention.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 05:18 PM
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Sigil I'm curious, You have stated several times in this thread that "Stranger rape is rare" and for the most part I agree, I think stranger rape is rarer than non-stranger rape. But I want to take a moment to discuss a hypothetical that might make that statement a bit erroneous. How would they get this data? I would assume they ask the victims right? And what would be classified as stranger rape? A rape that was performed by someone that had never ever met the victim before right? What if the v…
/r/MensRights05/09/12 06:23 AM
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I don't think you can really say one way or another. In my opinion the safest bet, just like in any other nature vs nurture debate, is "It's both"
/r/MensRights05/09/12 05:57 AM
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once again sigil, there is a difference between being prepared and being afraid. The level of precaution and preparation you take is up to the individual involved. Do I think dressing less provocative is necessarily the answer for everyone? hell no. I think a far better solution would be for people to take a self defense class. However if you don't want to take a self-defense class, a fight mechanism, perhaps you should try other defense mechanisms such as "camouflage".
/r/MensRights05/09/12 05:52 AM
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There is a big difference between assuming everyone is a potential rapist and being prepared for the possibility that someone could be a rapist. I do not assume every driver is a fucking moron, but I am prepared for when a driver is a fucking moron.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 12:18 AM
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... agreed? I don't know where you are going with this.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 09:41 PM
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Men are rapist. right here is the issue. Men are not rapists. Rapists are often men. Rapists can be fathers, brothers, best friends, husbands, co-workers, neighbors, boyfriends, bosses...etc They are not necessarily a "mythical creature" but they are outside of normal. When I hang out with 10 of my buds none of them are rapists because I do not consort with individuals who have the mindset necessary for rape. Rape/ sexual harassment and all this shit stops the moment we stop excusing men and tea…
/r/MensRights04/09/12 09:29 PM
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I agree derp. The cases of stranger rape are rare. Very rare. However, when discussing what someone wears, where they go, and what they are doing, we are discussing stranger rape.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 06:29 PM
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This is a fallacy, one I don't appreciate. It does not assume men are baseless animals who's natural state is rape, it assumes RAPISTS natural state is baseless animals who's natural state is rape. Unless you assume all men are potential rapists, it don't float.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 07:21 AM
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argh this is a pet peeve. This does not mean society thinks of a feminine trait as less than. This is society getting pissed off because someone isn't fulfilling their gender role.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 07:27 PM
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any particular book?
/r/MensRights31/08/12 04:19 PM
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that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. From every side. I'm a socialist. I am also an anti-feminist. An anarchist is not going to be for government controlled stuff. Also anarchist is a governmental ideology. Feminist is a social ideology. Socialism is an economic ideology. Fuck man.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 05:58 PM
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Foucault's definition of power. Power is not unidirectional. Power is a sort of agreement, a network of gives and takes. Therefore, sure sexism is power + discrimination, power is a system, therefore everyone is capable of sexism. Good day
/r/MensRights30/08/12 12:04 AM
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I'm really getting tired of "but if a woman did it". It doesn't matter what would happen if a woman did it, do/say the right thing every time. Be a paragon
/r/MensRights26/08/12 07:48 PM
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My personal thoughts on the matter is who is to say I cannot enjoy a particular aspect of a persons body while still seeing them as a being of wants and interests. Sexual objectifying outside of personal interaction is meaningless. What does it matter if poster girl wants a ged if I'm not interacting with her.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:31 PM
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He is taking a defensive stance because you took an offensive one. As a piece of advice from someone who often puts his foot in his mouth, avoid personal accusations
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:19 PM
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Google is listening
/r/MensRights25/08/12 10:28 PM
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My response is damn right what about the menz. You don't fix gender roles by only looking at one side.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 10:17 PM
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Is a kitten an infant cat? A puppy an infant dog? A baby an infant human? A duckling an infant duck? A caterpillar is an infant butterfly
/r/MensRights25/08/12 06:40 PM
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the separation of caterpillar and butterfly is a man made construct, not a natural one. They are the same organism, just in different stages of life. That's like saying "are you not human until you hit puberty?" bad analogy for your point, mate
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:43 PM
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Not all MRM are anti-feminists. Not all anti-feminists are MRM. My suggestion to you is my suggestion to almost everyone. Stop worrying about "I believe x so must be in group y". Believe what you want to believe. Read, learn, express yourself. Stop worrying about what title you have.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 08:58 AM
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because the nigger and faggot articles were written in 98
/r/MensRights17/08/12 09:06 PM
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No its not. This is a case of the general public getting into gaming and wanting to apply their rules to it. Its PC vs subculture. Neither side of the sex war has a place here.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 08:12 PM
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Do I really need to point out how silly this statement is? ALL gamers are most seen online. Where else would you be able to observe them?
/r/MensRights17/08/12 07:41 PM
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I do not think men and women are the same (watch the insults) but I do not see the benefit of drawing such a distinction other than trying to set a state of elitism. If that is the case I have no interest in trying to reason with the unreasonable. What happened in the past is in the past, step off the presidence that you do not deserve. A gamer is a gamer regardless of the genitalia
/r/MensRights17/08/12 07:23 PM
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You know what, you're right. And gamers have the right not to play with someone who can't take the heat
/r/MensRights17/08/12 06:09 PM
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"I licked it so that donut is mine!" You know who gamed first? A gamer. You know who trash talked first? A gamer. You know who built their first paladin? A gamer. It's not a "man's" domain, even if it has a higher percentage of males than females, it's a GAMER'S domain. You play by the GAMER'S rules and credo.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 06:07 PM
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but they can be equitable I think you give demonspawn too much credit
/r/MensRights15/08/12 06:12 PM
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sigh SOME ARE. You are generalizing. Hey look, I think I've seen these footprints before.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:42 PM
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The movement has some mud on it. Thats not all feminists fault and it's not just feminist who only see the mud that's been slung. Believe me, I know. My GF is a feminist (though I think it is a bit more on the facebook feminist side) and there was quite a moment when I asked her "Hey, so did you automatically think i was misogynistic because I was agreeing with members of the MRM?" I pointed her to this reddit and other pieces of information. Take your time. No, not everyone is with us, but they…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:36 PM
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I included an edit, the second one is about men =/= rapist. Often =/= always
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:28 PM
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with pleasure http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/xg96c/further_clarification_on_privilege_discussion/c5m4uro http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/x6pno/benefits_of_antirape_awareness_raising_campaigns/c5jun93 Believe me, I'm not saying all feminists are reasonable, much in the same way not all religious devotees are reasonable, but many are.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:19 PM
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Is this how the conversation is going to go? "Where did I say ducks have feathers on their ass?" You implied that feminist individuals are incapable of engaging in good faith because of their ideological stand point. You are wrong.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:14 PM
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Would you say a socialist is incapable of engaging in good faith with a capitalist society? Engaging in good faith does not mean that you believe everything the other person says, just that you are willing to listen. Try it some time.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:05 PM
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thank you o' holy naysayer. I now see how wrong I was. Tell me, are the yankees going to win next year?
/r/MensRights15/08/12 05:04 PM
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I have met several feminists who are willing to discuss things in good faith. You have to realize that feminists are normal people just like you and I and are just as programmed with certain phrases and ideas. Often times this will mean that ideas like "the patriarchy" will come up, but if you can chalk that up to good ol dogma, you'll find that most, but not all, feminists are fairly reasonable. Would I love it if feminism can be reorganized to disregard those silly concepts? Absolutely, but I'…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 04:58 PM
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This...is a troll right? Disposability has nothing to do with crime or the punishment there of. The lenient punishment system is a result of a belief that men are more responsible and women less. The solution for the issue of disposability is to work towards teaching men that they don't have to be sacrificed for women or men. That women and children first is unnecessary, and through the deconstruction of the male gender model that supports the man not being able to take care of himself. As for d…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 04:54 PM
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/facepalm than that isn't egalitarianism, you fool.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 04:35 PM
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The feminist belief in the regards of being able to help men is that by getting rid of strict gender roles for women the gender roles for men will also disappear. This idea is unfortunately flawed. You cannot get rid of gender roles by only fixing half of them for two reasons. A gender roles are linked. When you only fix one, you only do half the job. The easiest example I can think of is mothers and pay. We don't want women to get paid less because they might go on maternity leave right? So fem…
/r/MensRights14/08/12 09:01 PM
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What separates a female rights advocate and a feminist is one concept, patriarchal theory. The belief that women have it systematically worse than men and that we need to focus on helping them. All that belief is is maintaining the gender roles, that mrm, feminists and egalitarian are fighting, in disguise. It's a bullshit rewrite of history and modern society. Life sucks and has sucked for both genders. Every single negative aspect of gender roles is a dual sided coin where both sides are getti…
/r/MensRights12/08/12 11:29 PM
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try running that definition by a feminist some time... or any definition for that matter.Feminism is insanely multifaceted. The only solid thing about it is you must believe patriarchal theory
/r/MensRights09/08/12 08:19 PM
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We call it an egalitarian OP. A feminist does not = someone who advocates for women's rights. A feminists = someone who adheres to patriarchal theory. You are an egalitarian. You support both sexes, want to get rid of gender roles, and don't need to play oppression olympics to do so. Congratulations
/r/MensRights09/08/12 06:17 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/GenderEgalitarian/comments/xpn1m/a_few_thoughts_on_some_feminist_concepts_newbie/ I've been linking this as I enjoy what it has to say. The general suggestion from the thread is to disregard patriarchal theory and instead embrace a a better title, platocratical theory
/r/MensRights07/08/12 10:32 AM
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that's the hope
/r/MensRights07/08/12 03:59 AM
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Just as a note, the men's rights movement most likely also has a foundation it cannot breech. If I had to guess what that may be, it would be it's anti-feminist subculture.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 03:11 AM
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This is a thought that has been crossing my mind lately as well. Feminism identifies the maintenance of strict gender roles as "patriarchy". Feminism largely exploits the traditional gender roles of female = weak to garner much support. Meanwhile, it allows the traditional role of men = strong to perpetuate in stating things like "Men's rights issues aren't as serious. We need to take care of women's rights now and men's rights later." In other words, feminism perpetuates what it supposedly figh…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 11:52 PM
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What?! No! Well..I... Ok only a sith works in absolutes...unless...it's...a... jedi.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 05:03 AM
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Furthermore, black face was often worn so that actors could criticize fellow white people. "Oh those plantation owners, fuck them!" is acceptable if you're just playing a slave.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 03:49 AM
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Technology changes everything
/r/MensRights06/08/12 01:32 AM
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only a sith works in absolutes
/r/MensRights06/08/12 12:57 AM
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That was supposed to say x post. Stupid phone Anyways I think its time to modify the discourse. I plan on using Platocracy from now on
/r/MensRights05/08/12 11:56 PM
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Lickity, take a moment. Is it not possible that that idea, the one about wanting to "live and die for your belief", is just as much an ingrained ideology/gender role as anything else? You just said I'd rather be a tool discarded for a "noble" cause than an ornamental tool. I'd rather not be a tool, but if I had to choose, I'd rather not be discarded for someone elses nobility.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:27 PM
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She wants to get help and recognize she has issues, but she denies it is BPD (you don't know the shitstorm I got for bringing that up last "break up") due to a past meeting with a professional.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 08:00 PM
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Oh god, this mirrors my current relationship (outside of the diary)
/r/MensRights01/08/12 07:38 PM
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Sorry I'm late to the party. Here's my quick thought on this. You seen like a very reasonable person. I agree that actual false claims are rare, I also believe actual cases of rape are rare. I would also guess this is the consensus within the mra. The big question that society seems unwilling to give an honest answer about is "do you believe that men are more likely to rape than women are to lie". I, and probably other individuals are very much aware of what one has to go through to report a rap…
/r/MensRights29/07/12 08:07 PM
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Indeed, I was just using what I believe to be common feminist information to support the argument. I agree rape over all is not common and we have created a culture of fear, but that concept is something that is a little more difficult for other ideologies to swallow.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 10:14 AM
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My apologies the Dick comment wasn't directed at you, just a general statement
/r/MensRights29/07/12 12:57 AM
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Culture of fear
/r/MensRights29/07/12 12:46 AM
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On the contrary, at least for myself, I would give the same advice I gave to a man. You don't make the world a better place by being a Dick
/r/MensRights29/07/12 12:45 AM
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My suggestion is in my opinion something (some) guys learned a long time ago. The key to being safe is not to view everything as a threat, but as a potential threat. its a fine line. There's nothing wrong with being prepared for shit hitting the fan ie being able to defend yourself, have an escape route, and a means of getting help. But don't let fear control you. The number of bad people in the world is not that great. Enjoy life. Talk to strangers. Stranger rape is extremely uncommon. Self pre…
/r/MensRights28/07/12 07:04 PM
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its called being nice. As long as gender doesn't come into play, there's nothing wrong with it
/r/MensRights28/07/12 06:52 PM
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I cannot down vote this hard enough
/r/MensRights28/07/12 06:08 PM
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To be honest, this is something that should pluck feminism's heart strings a bit. If you want women to be equal in video games, they need to be EQUAL in video games, this includes letting them get killed.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:39 PM
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What if you pulled Foucault's analysis of power into this equation? The idea that power is not unidirectional, but is an exchange of one power for another.
/r/MensRights09/07/12 08:11 PM
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cool, I'll use that from now on :)
/r/MensRights06/07/12 04:34 PM
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the refute to the study isn't exactly easy access. I didn't know about it until I saw it on MRA.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 09:18 AM
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they are just misinformed. Instead of getting pissed, why don't we inform them?
/r/MensRights06/07/12 08:15 AM
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do you have a better term for it?
/r/MensRights06/07/12 08:05 AM
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pippy longstocking...
/r/MensRights02/07/12 08:34 PM
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Not quite, colonial america (in my mind at least) includes 1776 to 1820 where it was only the elite who were allowed to vote.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 05:12 PM
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yeah, was called colonial america
/r/MensRights29/06/12 01:54 PM
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You, as many individuals, seem capable of formulating your own answers. :)
/r/MensRights29/06/12 01:30 PM
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troll be gone
/r/MensRights29/06/12 12:53 PM
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I assure you it is a genuine question. I would consider myself an antifeminist egalitarian, I was curious what individuals within Men's Rights thought.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 12:44 PM
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looks like a stupid joke, simmer down guys
/r/MensRights17/06/12 02:58 AM
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I don't think anyone is defending this crap, therefore I don't think it's a male rights issue.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 02:43 AM
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