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| 3 | Closing the deal over text is the hardest thing in existenceWell the funny thing is that most women are interested in sex too. Most women actually go through their lives having more sexual partners than the average man does. Stats from tinder show this. Online dating and clubs are full of girls who are in their twenties and just want to sleep around without getting attached. I've been used for sex a whole bunch of times from girls I would have liked to have seen again, but this didn't happen because the girl wanted a new partner. There's just a bunch of … | /r/seduction | 07/11/22 05:57 AM |
| 9 | Old school veteran of the seduction community. I attribute the seduction community to my huge gain in social skills and my ability to travel the world and make friends and meet beautiful women all over. Any guys here around my age? Mid 30s.I can guarantee you that it never goes away. What's the saying? "The older I get the more they stay the same age?" The thing is, girls in their mid-twenties are still in their "ho" phase and are open to many different experiences. The older you get, the more of an interesting experience you become. If you sell it like that. | /r/seduction | 04/11/22 06:38 AM |
| 9 | My first time ACTUALLY approaching at a club/bar. Two Ls.I spent a long time in Japan many years ago. Japanese girls aren't easy as you would think. (not compared to SE Asian girls). Many are racist, and the ones that aren't typically either want to try a foreigner out for an ONS and are embarrassed about it - or just want to use you for language practice. Whatever. You can't focus on having any meaningful relationships other than girls who want one from you until they've mastered English. Buying girls a drink is a complete no-no. I think you learnt t… | /r/seduction | 03/11/22 11:31 AM |
| 13 | Closing the deal over text is the hardest thing in existenceOne she's on her period, or other casual sex options are exhausted, she MAY give you a call. I had a one month limit on seeing if girls can be turned around. Remember they're in estrus once a month. | /r/seduction | 03/11/22 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Closing the deal over text is the hardest thing in existenceYou don't get numbers or contact info from clubs or bars. They're strictly ONS environments. Not saying that it's impossible to get numbers that actually respond after going to these environments, but I can count on one hand the number of times that's actually worked out for me. If you ask for a number in the club, the girl is going to think you just don't "get it". Dating apps are also non-relationship environments, so if you're sizing her up for a relationship and not setting up for "netflix a… | /r/seduction | 03/11/22 03:56 AM |
| 4 | Real Life ConundrumIndian guys have probably got the worst speaking tonality. You need to be more Morgan Freeman and Barry White than Apu from the Simpsons. Apart from that, when you speak to women, you talk about positive emotions, feelings, what it's like when you feel connected to someone, the body sensations you get from that, which then leads into sex talk as a general rule. In no seduction do you ever waffle on about facts and figures and data. That just makes you boring. Women are addicted to emotions, fant… | /r/seduction | 02/11/22 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Should i follow up on a date?Yes that's exactly the reasoning. It also avoids the "Is this a date?" knee-jerk reaction objection. If the girl is down for something casual, framing things in context of a date will give her the impression that you're screening her for something serious - when she might be highly opposed to that. This also deprives her of any satisfaction by trying to stand you up. Some women will do this if you swap numbers and you haven't attracted them properly. Since you're not putting your schedule on hol… | /r/seduction | 02/11/22 02:55 AM |
| 5 | Anyone ever get threatened by a boyfriend of a girl they hooked up with?I've never had any trouble from other guys, although I did have a stalker bang on my door once as he followed the girl I took home. He gave up after a while. I never got a look at him apart from hearing the threats. In most cases I don't have other guys mess with me. This goes back to getting buff at the gym. It's the best and safest martial art. If you look like you can pound someone's face in, people are much less likely to give you any trouble - although you do get the idiots who want to arm … | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Unpopular opinion: The only reason to learn music is to seduce people.Rock stars get laid. I want my son to play guitar. It's the most portable of the musical instruments, and all you have to do is play four-chord-songs (look them up), and sing about love, emotions, powerful feelings, body sensations, etc. etc. You can slip in whatever you want in the context of a song. Anything too stupid to be said is often sung in our culture. The Beatles sang "love me do" and look at the female response they got from that. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 07:56 AM |
| 2 | Should i follow up on a date?Don't waste time. Just tell her that you're going to be somewhere doing something you always do, and if she wants to see you - because you'd like to - to let you know and come out whenever. If she does in fact show up, then you make some excuse and move to sex location - wherever you've planned that to be. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 07:50 AM |
| 4 | Am I being unreasonable with my standards with this girl ?Somebody voted you down, but you are correct. It's only important to have standards if the girl is treating you badly. Dropping your standards and putting up with poor treatment from a woman is not sexy and screams desperation. If she's just not all that good looking, and she likes you enough to want to ride you... why the hell not? She may not be the best looking, but it's better than wanking. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 07:42 AM |
| 3 | Having a hard time getting back after a messy breakupYou got to get them out of your head. They're living rent free in there. This just burns up energy you could be spending on other women. You need to exorcise the skank-demons. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 07:18 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Obviously you're not her top priority. I would see that as her subtly sending you a message of what you should be doing with your own life. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 02:35 AM |
| 2 | When I have it, I dont want it anymore...Men are designed to go from flower to flower. We enjoy quantity, not quality so much. In fact, even if we have quality, we'll still seek out the quantity on less-than-quality women. Trying to fight that will make you unhappy to some degree. I'm married. Ask me all about it. | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 02:31 AM |
| -5 | [deleted by user]Yeaaaaah I think I'll pass on your advice. I'm definitely looking for something serious and I don't wanna "invite her for coffee" so soon before I even get to know who she is as a person. I also don't think "pushing as hard as you can" is a good idea and "not creepy". It's definitely creepy imo. Edit : I read your other comments, especially about the part where you imply if a women says "we're not having sex" but isn't screaming that like a banshee means it's okay to proceed for sex - you creep … | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 02:11 AM |
| -4 | [deleted by user]Women don't make the first move as a buffer against rejection. It's also easier on their ego if they force the guy to do it or wait until he does - so he can take all the risks. ( That's why I'm constantly urging guys to push as far as they can until they get stopped. No, it's not being creepy you numbskull incels. Coffee, initially, is good. Get her there and then start probing as to what her fantasies and desires might be - and suggest that she come over to your place for another coffee becaus… | /r/seduction | 01/11/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]It's easier just to wrap your willy. Pregnancy becomes a problem if you don't have an escape route. By that I mean, you should ideally be on overseas holiday and she shouldn't know your real name or contact information. Then she has no legal recourse when a month later she discovers she's pregnant. Tourist visas are for 30 days max in a lot of places - possibly for a reason. Depends on how much of a dick you want to be to unborn children really. Not my bag. Getting a woman pregnant in your own c… | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 11:47 PM |
| -1 | If a girl says „we’re not having sex”, but we proceeded to make out intensely before and after, what should I take from it?Just going to leave this here to piss you off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie\_yGU | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | best countries for datingYou might have to keep in mind that I went over a decade ago. A lot changes over time. Generally I found them pretty good and was able to pull just about every weekend. Yes there were other guys too, but for the most part many had zero game, getting drunk, or wasting time talking to some hot chick in groups of four and just getting nowhere. Also it depends on where the party is. I found that in any party held in Roppongi I would often find girls who were DTF - more than, say, one held in Shibuya… | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 09:45 PM |
| -7 | If a girl says „we’re not having sex”, but we proceeded to make out intensely before and after, what should I take from it?Depends on how she says "We're not having sex". If it's breathless and aroused "We're not having sex" then proceed. If it's an angry, agressive, and frustrated "NO! WE"RE NOT HAVING SEX!" then you bacdafucup. You can proceed with this a few ways. One way is to promise that you will only do things to her that you both want to do and make you both feel really good. It's so wonderfully vague that it means nothing. The other way is to agree and ramp up her negation. "You're right. We shouldn't be th… | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 12:25 PM |
| 3 | best countries for datingYes, Japan has gaijin hunters... otherwise known as English or language milkers. Japan is pretty racist though and not as easy a place as one keeps hearing. Blonde-haired blue eyed white men are generally preferred over any other race. Not all Japanese girls like foreigners either and will avoid you or try to get rid of you. This is why the gaijin hunters stand out. The Tokyo international parties are a happy hunting ground for some of these women, even if some of them are a bit dinged, there ar… | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 11:51 AM |
| 3 | Caffeine, Alcohol, and Porn: some of the most detrimental contributors to social anxiety are also the most accepted by societyIf you have a high sex drive, it's pretty hard to have enough sex so that you don't turn to porn... Just masturbate. What's the problem. | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 10:24 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]True, but I’ll be real with you. She’s the friend of my best friend’s GF, and she says she doesn’t go out much. The girl is 100% my type in the looks department… so I wasn’t really trying to fuck her especially if she was super fucked up. I wanted to take her on a date and opt for something long term | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 10:22 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Girls at clubs, bars, and wild parties -- this is just ONS territory.Sorry, but if you fail to seal the deal (or even if you do) in party environments - you can fully expect nothing to happen afterwards.This is even more the case if the girl is halfway hot and has options. Don't be surprised that she doesn't get back to you. Anyway, let's look at her text: She said "Thanks" for whatever it was you did. That usually means "We're done here". Welp that sucks. Girls always say this once they fully i… | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 07:22 AM |
| 26 | Caffeine, Alcohol, and Porn: some of the most detrimental contributors to social anxiety are also the most accepted by societyIf you have a high sex drive, it's pretty hard to have enough sex so that you don't turn to porn... although yes - it is possible to have enough sex from different women that you don't feel you need it - for a while anyway! Lust is something that you - as a man - need to keep in check. There's nothing inherently wrong with it (you need to feel something about a woman so that you even want to meet her in the first place!), but you need to learn to control it or it will control you. Lust can have … | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]So you say: "Men who pull the most women are not decent people" Maybe you're the indecent person, because not only are you jealous, but you hate other people who have nothing to do with you. Don't worry about your competition. I can guarantee that your competition couldn't care less about you. | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 01:59 AM |
| 1 | I feel like every description I put on dating apps is really cringeyI love watching beaches and taking long walks in the movies. | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 12:28 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Yes exactly. Do they have any fear of approaching? No. Do they still get rejected a lot? Yes. Do they end up having lots of sex? Yes. How do they deal with relationships? They don't. They just find more partners. Keep it simple like that. | /r/seduction | 31/10/22 12:27 AM |
| 31 | [deleted by user]If a hooker off the street invited you back to her brothel, and you went with her, what things do you expect are going to happen? ... I would think that sex for money would be completely on the cards. It's the same with women when you just invite them back to your place. If they seem keen enough they'll go with you, and they'll be fully aware of what they're getting themselves into when they're alone and at your place - especially if you've warmed them up a bit with flirtatious behavior and conv… | /r/seduction | 30/10/22 06:54 AM |
| 7 | PSA: Whenever you ask for advice and receive it, check the profile history of those people.Ah well. The problem is that I'm old and massive experienced, but my posts get occasionally voted down to sub zero. It's probably because what I am teaching is so far out of that persons experience that it sounds completely unreal, and they probably think I'm making it up. But then again, if you want extraordinary results, you have to do extraordinary things. You can lead a horse to water... as they say... but you can't make it drink. | /r/seduction | 30/10/22 04:52 AM |
| 1 | One night stand problemWell I fucking hope so. That's usually what you do after analysis. Draw conclusions. God damn, some people are thick. Given that I've been in the OPs situation more times than I can count I would think I'm qualified to comment. | /r/seduction | 28/10/22 12:35 PM |
| 1 | One night stand problemYeah well I hope we draw conclusions. ??? what's your point? | /r/seduction | 27/10/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sexI just exposed your contradiction - but don't attribute it to me. It's what you were saying! | /r/seduction | 27/10/22 07:02 AM |
| 4 | One night stand problemGirl used you for sex. Yeah I know women accuse men of doing this all the time, but in actual fact they're quite capable of doing it to men as well. If you're going to sleep around with lots of women, them's the breaks. You didn't do anything wrong. She just saw you as a sexual opportunity to exploit. It might feel weird but in fact you should pat yourself on the back. She let you bust a nut in her and has freed you up to meet other women - to do it again to them! Don't ruin what you had by chas… | /r/seduction | 27/10/22 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Is it weird to find masculine traits in women attractive? And how can I go about it?Two words: Black girls High testosterone in women also makes them desire sex a lot too, | /r/seduction | 27/10/22 12:43 AM |
| 0 | You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sexYou're not really listening to what I'm saying, so good luck on your quest to find a virgin. Might be going without sex for a while though while prey on awkward young girls. If you're going to look down on women who have sex, then why would they want to have sex with you? And don't call me son. You're probably old enough to be mine. | /r/seduction | 26/10/22 10:33 PM |
| 1 | You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sexWho cares how many men she's hooked up with? Do unto others... I don't want her to care about my sexual history. If she's trying to preserve herself for the best man and I have sex with her, does that not make me the best man? Where's the problem? And I've been down the marriage and paternity road... so no need to lecture me on this. | /r/seduction | 26/10/22 12:36 PM |
| -1 | You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sexSo why would a woman "save herself" for marriage, so she could marry a man who would say: "I don't want to marry her, she's a slut! I just want to go to bed with her!" Hmm? Maybe because you're wrong. The important thing for a man is that he isn't going to be raising a child that isn't his. Before the wonders of birth control, the only way to prove this was "no sex before marriage". This totally doesn't work today. If she's fooled around with a bunch of other guys but didn't have any of their ki… | /r/seduction | 26/10/22 10:39 AM |
| 1 | You are not preserving a woman’s honor by ‘taking things slowly’ or delaying sex. You’re only hurting your chances. Always escalate and avoid the White Knight mentality with sexWell I've known girls like that. They don't want to have sex before marriage/relationship. "Who wants to buy the cow when the milk is free?" is what I hear. Well, sorry to break it to you, but milk is a commodity product and NOBODY WANTS TO BUY A COW. Only young women talk like this before they grow out of it.. and that's IF they grow out of it before it's too late.Of the women who I've known over the decades of my life who have held to the "no sex before marriage principle"... guess what? They … | /r/seduction | 26/10/22 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Got used by a girl then told me I was a creepWhy would you let her use you to do her homework. Urgh. You have to realize that her time with you comes at a price, and we all know what that price is. Sometimes it's just easier to subtly suggest what you want upfront before helping her out, and in doing so, she might realize the price is too great and stop wasting your time..... or not! Later on, you'll recognize this behavior when women ask you "Why don't you buy me a drink?" in bars. And now you'll know how to respond. | /r/seduction | 25/10/22 07:08 AM |
| 3 | she asked why I want to date her?Which is it? a) *Why* are you dating me? b) Why are *you* dating me? c) Why are you *dating* me? d) Why are you dating *me*? This is so ripe for deliberate misinterpretation. Let's go with (a) and (d). Indeed *why* are you *dating* her at all when you can just SKIP ALL THAT? So you respond "Well, we can skip the date and head right for the bedroom if you like!" | /r/seduction | 25/10/22 04:48 AM |
| 7 | “I’ve only known you for a day” how to go about this?In many cases, women typically understand the process of falling in love to happen over a certain period of time. They generally may not have experienced it happening all at once and hence alarm bells start to ring. You can fast-forward her "mental clock" with what's known as a time-distortion reframe. You just ask her to "picture a time in the future, say years from now, still feeling connected as we are, and looking back on this moment as being the start of something wonderful." If you break d… | /r/seduction | 25/10/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Business and sales is very very tightly linked to getting laid. When you're trying to get laid, you are selling, and the woman is buying. When it comes to relationships, women are selling, and you are buying. After all, Ross Jeffries who kickstarted the whole seduction community, eventually ended up spending more and more effort branching out into giving lectures on selling after exhausting the seduction market. Your journey to getting laid repeatedly is not too unlike starting a business. A bit… | /r/seduction | 25/10/22 02:54 AM |
| 90 | [deleted by user]I third this opinion. When it comes to threesomes it's up to your girl to do the legwork. Go to the bar, let her find the girl and chat her up, etc. She'll be much better at communicating this to other women than you will. If she's scared of doing that, you'll have to train her, but she will still have to do it. Once you are all together, you are simply generously putting yourself out there for two women to have fun with and to be treated like a sex object. You let your partner do the movie dire… | /r/seduction | 25/10/22 12:12 AM |
| 10 | How do I get a idgaf attitude?Accepting hard truths and facing reality is my religion. | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 02:35 PM |
| 3 | Failed to escalate Netflix and chill. What more could I have done?You really need to talk to women to find out what turns them on before you start feeling them up. It may turn out that she likes guys who are rough with her. Sex may have gotten so boring for her now that she wants some kinky shit done to her. You don't find that out unless you ask. Also, it could be that she's inexperienced sexually and doesn't know how to respond. Again, talk to her. It could also be that she's just got a low sex drive and no interest in it. Again, talk to her. Failing all of … | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 07:44 AM |
| 133 | How do I get a idgaf attitude?The older you get, the more you will realize just how much bullshit there is out there in the world. Most everyone is lying to you, or unwittingly believing in a whole load of rubbish. Also as you're closer to the end than you are in the beginning of life then you begin to look back and wonder what the hell you were worried about when you were young. Your only wish is that you were young again and could take what you know now back with you. Most young people worry if they're good looking enough … | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 04:32 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]You met a girl on a meat-market like tinder and then took her on a picnic date... tinder is for quick casual hookups picnic is a dating activity - signalling to her that you want a relationship - complicating her hopes of a quick and easy casual sexual adventure You still haven't had sex and it's been how long now? See the problem? If you're going to "trial" her for a relationship with the dating activities, she's going to be even more pissed off that her time was wasted, emotions played with, a… | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Any advice on how to avoid the "i just didn't feel the spark"No spark = no sexual tension. Possibly boring conversation that didn't head in a sexual direction. On the positive side, at least the women feel comfortable with you. They're not running away screaming. You just have to ask them how they know when they feel that spark. Or if they've ever felt that spark, or that click with another guy that just lets them know that IT'S ON. You ask the right questions, they will have to go into their mind and revivify those feelings in your presence. Then hey pre… | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Do you refer to it as ‘date’ or not?I don't care if you don't believe me. I was there and you weren't | /r/seduction | 24/10/22 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Do you refer to it as ‘date’ or not?It's a very time saving strategy, because if spoken to properly, they'll decide to have sex with you in the first 15 minutes. After that, everything else is filler. So you're still wrong, but you're thinking at least. | /r/seduction | 23/10/22 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Do you refer to it as ‘date’ or not?FFS, as a man you don't get to decide if a relationship comes out of a hookup! It's only offered to you when a woman wants to see you again. Just showing your lack of experience in this field IMHO | /r/seduction | 22/10/22 09:57 PM |
| 0 | Do you refer to it as ‘date’ or not?The term "dating" has long term relationship connotations. You NEVER want to entertain one of these when trying to have sex with a woman. You just wan to present yourself as a horny manwhore. It's just easier on everyone. If a woman wants a relationship, and wants to "date", then she will let you know that she wants to see you again AFTER you have sex with her. If she wants to date before having sex then she's got the cart before the horse. You aren't some kind of unpaid escort! Say no to that n… | /r/seduction | 22/10/22 10:02 AM |
| 4 | [deleted by user]Oh hell yes. If you want her then do it. She is keen. She wants to feel young again and you're right there less than half her age. To her, you're like a sexual dream come true. Nothing to worry about. Bring rubbers and have fun. These older women are just not sure of their chances of scoring with a much younger guy, just as a guy in his mid forties would wonder if he could pull a horny 18 year old girl. One thing you have to learn as you get older and more mature sexually, is that you can miss a… | /r/seduction | 22/10/22 09:57 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Decades of personal experience. I know that's not scientific, so I leave this disclaimer: DISCLAIMER: Anything I say is for entertainment purposes only. Advice is given on a "best effort" basis. In attempting anything I have mentioned here, please check with your lawyer and you local laws before attempting in your jurisdiction. I cannot be held responsible for your own actions :) | /r/seduction | 22/10/22 03:29 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Catching feelings is fairly normal. Of course if you liked her, you're going to want to bang her again. My last paragraph is probably confusing to you because women will often get pregnant from alpha males and then go find a beta male to get to raise the child that isn't his. Like they will just let the man go rather than stay with him. | /r/seduction | 21/10/22 03:22 AM |
| 4 | [deleted by user]Online dating is just a place for casual sex hookups. Everybody should know this... This is why if you come off as needy and wanting a relationship you can often turn women off - especially if all they want is casual sex. The last thing they want is a guy that catches feelings after having sex and won't let them move onto the next partner and starts stalking them. You have to take the hint and move on. I have the same level of annoyance with women who won't have sex unless there's marriage or a … | /r/seduction | 21/10/22 02:56 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]It might be why god decided to put our assholes right next to our genitals... or why we cum and pee from the same hole.... of all the design decisions that he could have made ! :D | /r/seduction | 21/10/22 02:51 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Unlikely, but you can't allow yourself to get hung up over it or that will wear you down. It's enough to know that you're not the only one who has been through that! (and it's a good problem to have really)If you walk this life of juggling multiple women, the only valid course of action is to find the next one! I mean, that's what she's going to do. The messed up thing is that women find the next guy much more easily than we find the next girl. That said, once you start juggling multiple women, … | /r/seduction | 21/10/22 02:49 AM |
| 62 | [deleted by user]For some women sex is like using the toilet. It's dirty, embarrassing, but it's a bodily urge and it feels good once you've done it. It's just not something you love doing though. | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 10:10 PM |
| 109 | [deleted by user]She just used you for sex. Get used to it. It's only a shock if you've been raised to believe that women all want relationships. Well... some just don't and enjoy the chase as much as us. | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 10:08 PM |
| 2 | So, when do girls start thinking it is offensive to not make phisical moves?Some women give consent in their heads by not resisting. If she resists then you stop. Personally I find the ones active in bedroom a lot more fun, but it's not every woman's fantasy. I tend to find women who put up fake resistance are more interested in male entrapment (think Meatloaf's "Paradise by the dashboard light") than they are in the sex, but they're still open for sex. The trick is, of course, to eat the bait without swallowing the hook. | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 12:54 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]You're better off trawling the Tokyo international parties alone. Such a goldmine of available women with foreign men in mind, massively increasing chances of success. It was almost like fish in a barrel. I used to go to one every weekend and would routinely pull a different girl every week as a regular source of booty. The ones held in Roppongi seemed to be the better ones as the girls there were the most game (due to Roppongi's reputation as a foreigner meat-market most likely) Sure, many of t… | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 07:04 AM |
| 2 | What to say when a woman mentions her weight or wanting to lose weightThe funny thing is that men are really diverse and all go for different things in women - and fetishize some things more than others. I like big and skinny women regardless. Just as long as she isn't so obese or so anorexic that she's disgusting. Lots of men have a preference for certain kinds of women even when they don't need one. Men don't get pregnant and can sleep around with impunity as long as they're not being named as a father legally - so it makes little sense to for men to be picky, b… | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 06:47 AM |
| 2 | So, when do girls start thinking it is offensive to not make phisical moves?You don't really know what the woman wants, but more importantly she may not even know herself. The question is NOT "What do women want?"The REAL question is "What does this woman RESPOND TO?" Which is why on a date - if you're not pushing her boundaries to see where the GOOD responses are, well you're not really achieving anything. This is why is always makes sense to push as far as she will let you so that you and her can learn where the positive responses are to be found. This is why I would … | /r/seduction | 20/10/22 01:42 AM |
| 3 | The guys I know who attract the most women are among the most deeply insecure, arrogant, narcissistic, egotistical people that I know ofWhen you're trying to sell a product you have to speak about it in a positive light. You can't expect women to discover it on it's own. There's a whole industry around this, called marketing. | /r/seduction | 19/10/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Is there any way we can archive/back-up this whole subreddit?I think the dating apps already facilitated a global meat market, driving down prices and access for the majority of women to funnel attention to the <1% of top men. I assume that this has led to a massive rise in male incels across the western world due to massive competitiveness. Thing is, are these women having the babies though? I suppose some will. The few guys at the top will be avoiding being legally obligated (global sex tourists, country jumpers, dual citizens, or professional sperm don… | /r/seduction | 19/10/22 04:55 AM |
| 5 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?Absolutely.Also be unafraid of gracefully and apologetically bowing out when it occasionally blows up in your face and dusting your shoulders off - only to try again. I end up saying "Yeah OK, you got me! you got me! you win!" a lot :) You're whoring yourself - attempting to sell yourself and a "good time".Pick up is more of a sales job than one realizes initially. You don't have to have a great product in order to be able to sell it initially anyway.If other great products waited until version … | /r/seduction | 19/10/22 01:13 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Being a friend is basically her saying "I want to drain you of emotional attention like a vampire and give nothing of value to you in return" It's actually insulting, but she's probably young and doesn't understand. I've heard excuses like : "I don't want to have sex in case it ruins the friendship" - which is nonsense You just tell her "As soon as one of us is having sex with another person, we're not really going to have any relationship anymore, not even friends. We won't have time to see eac… | /r/seduction | 19/10/22 12:14 AM |
| 4 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?As long as she's not disgusting, you don't have to feel bad afterwards. If she is though - OK, congrats on making another woman happy - although you were probably drunk. Given that you probably faked an orgasm to get through it (haha, been there done that), you'll come out OK on the other end. | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 10:19 AM |
| 5 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?They weren't that bad for their age... but it hardly matters when you're going to sleep on the street if you don't sleep with them anyway. It's not really a hard decision to make! ...but going back to my original point. If you don't whore yourself out, you miss lots of opportunities. So what if she's not a top-shelf knockout? It's not like you can't walk away later... you are a man and aren't going to get pregnant! and it's better than sleeping alone (or on the street). So what if it's a night o… | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?It's funny, but you just make up a weak excuse as a lie: "My sister must have done my laundry that day and left it there." or even "Sometimes I like to try makeup on to keep my face moist" :) | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?Something similar happens when women stay over at your place. They always leave things behind - like a toothbrush, or facial cleaning pads, or lipstick or something. Most guys clean these away for when the next girl comes, but I was deliberately lazy and just left them lying around for other girls to find so they wouldn't think of me as relationship material. | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 08:48 AM |
| 1 | I say 'hello' then basically let her do all the work.The psychology of doing this is sound though. It's like asking "Have you ever met a guy for the first time and instantaneously felt attracted to them?" when you walk up to them for the first time. I mean - you're standing right there, meeting them for the first time - and then you make this suggestion. How could they NOT get it? | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 04:34 AM |
| 3 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?You don't have to book hotels. You can often just rock up to reception and say you want a room for the night. As long as it's not Bethlehem at Christmas, you'll get a room. | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 03:45 AM |
| 4 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?Yeah it was unsustainable. You have to remember that he's effectively spinning plates but also living with women as well. After a while they begin to wonder where he is and why he isn't at home at night when he has half his stuff at their place. I stayed at a few women's place as well - even though I had my own place. Having said that, my place was a hole in the wall compared to the women's apartments, but at least I had a place to put all my junk. | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 02:23 AM |
| 60 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?So were the women I think. Women tend to like guys who live by a version of "enlightened and rational self interest". I learnt a lot from him as he was a natural. Is it shitty? Well, what I have learned is that women don't find self-sacrifice attractive. It also means that they often fall for psychopaths, because those people have no empathy at all. This is also why the guys here who say "work on yourself and your career, etc, and work out" to be more attractive to women is just garbage. At best… | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 01:27 AM |
| 13 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?No, but he had a similar lifestyle. Also there was alcohol and drug abuse. Occasional casual jobs and a party animal lifestyle - but he didn't even bother dressing up well. Stuck to the t-shirt and jeans look. It was easy for him to target women in their 30s who had their shit together but not a man in their life. These women would have homes and dream about having a husband - which he provided for as long as it would take them to figure out that he would never be one. Also, you can only really … | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 01:20 AM |
| 107 | Is having your own place mandatory to get girls regularly?No. You can always push the girl to take you to her place (assuming she's actually got one and lives alone) I had a friend who was basically homeless and he lived between multiple girlfriends. He would go out and party, stay with a girl. Go out and party again at night. Find another girl. Move into her place. Of course, he told them all that he had to go home when he left from one girl to go to stay at another's. It's not really sustainable, because eventually the women would catch on to what he… | /r/seduction | 18/10/22 12:00 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Well that kind of sucks. I don't mind women having ideas, because if I agree with them, and if it leads towards the bedroom - then that's totally OK. It's when they tell you to do things which DON'T then you really do have to pack up and move on. Such as inviting the girl to a bar near my place and she says she won't do it and wants to go to an expensive restaurant instead. Or says that she's inviting a friend along. Or just being difficult. Just BS like this I have no time for. If you sell your… | /r/seduction | 17/10/22 05:13 AM |
| 5 | What to do if you’re young and matured fast? All the girls my age seem so immature. How to find wifey material?You're in your early 20s. The LAST THING you want to be thinking of is a hunt for marriage/relationship material. What you do is try to sleep with as many women as possible to get an idea of what sort of women will work best for you. The irony of this is that in sleeping around you may discover that a relationship or marriage will never work for you. (and quite honestly, once you start seeing multiple women it feels weird to stick to just one anyway) Should you determine that you want to get mar… | /r/seduction | 17/10/22 03:28 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Saying "I'm not your friend" instead of "Friends with benefits right? ahha" is going to get you that reaction. Girls you meet online are typically DTF as long as you don't screw it up by saying something dumb - or the girl asking something dumb and you opening your big fat mouth to reply. Honestly if you've done the groundwork correctly in your attraction patter to go for that, then touching her shouldn't be an issue - but you have to learn as to when the moment opens itself up to you. Assuming … | /r/seduction | 17/10/22 03:21 AM |
| -1 | [deleted by user]You met up with a girl and what happened after that? Did you take her home and push the envelope as far as you could? Or did you just part ways afterwards? Because if it's the latter (which I think it is), the unfriending is obvious. Judging by the way she was talking there was a bit of dominance required by you to break down her walls and token resistance - and you failed to deliver. | /r/seduction | 17/10/22 03:14 AM |
| 1 | I have had two dating coaches over the last ten years.Funny, but my past experience says otherwise. On more than one occasion. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it never happened. But more importantly, I don't care if you believe me or not.I was there and you weren't. | /r/seduction | 17/10/22 03:08 AM |
| 1 | I have had two dating coaches over the last ten years."Why do nice things for people you don't even know?" - your logic | /r/seduction | 16/10/22 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Hinge DateTo avoid the catfishing/flakers/timewasters, NEVER suggest a "date" or a meet that's going to be going out of your way or costing you anything - and going to a place you would not normally go JUST to meet her. If you do that, you just give the girl a massive and unnecessary ballooning ego boost - particularly if she's young. Instead, ALWAYS get her to do the legwork to find you. Tell her that you stop by a bar for a drink - ON YOUR WAY HOME (hint hint)- and she can meet you at the bar - which yo… | /r/seduction | 15/10/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | How do I make conversation interesting and get out of the hi, how are you, how was your day loop?How do I make conversation interesting and get out of the hi, how are you, how was your day loop?Pick up is essentially a sales job. What are you selling? If anything you're inviting her on an adventure of emotions, feelings, dreams, fantasies, body sensations and peak experiences. Now, none of those things are inherently sexual, but what you will find is that asking about those topics in question, or describing in detail what you feel when you experience all of those things, you will undoubtedly keep rubbing up (oo-er) against the topic. You can go anywhere with these topics, so you'll nev… | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 05:30 AM |
| 1 | I have had two dating coaches over the last ten years.Pickup really is about putting yourself out there: whether that's by displaying more sexuality, to removing your "standards" about who you sleep with. You really need to learn how to whore yourself out and be OK with it. | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 03:15 AM |
| 2 | The art of not caring and acting more on emotionsYes, and this is critical: you must use your conversation to evoke emotions. Anything that could be expressed as information or data should be avoided. Once you understand that, then it's a case of knowing tricks to use grammatically to force your conversations into emotional directions. Typically you do this with rich and detailed descriptions. (think romance novels) Not all women respond to emotions though. They may also respond to body sensations (or verbal descriptions of them) or visualizat… | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 02:49 AM |
| 9 | Men who are unsuccessful with women share two characteristics: they self-victimize and make excusesWomen do talk and act like they are a monolithic group or hive mind, and men can fall foul of that. Many women - incorrectly - tend to think that their experiences are valid for every other woman when in fact this is not the case at all. That said, there is an element of truth to it - otherwise social proof would not be a thing. Women are attracted to men that other women have on a subconscious level - hence they think that they all have a hive mind. They also tend to do what they think the rest… | /r/seduction | 13/10/22 12:45 AM |
| 14 | I finally know what it feels like to touch and be wanted by a woman. Unreal experience.If you use the experience as an opportunity to break out of your shell and learn how to get women to want to do that with you - simply because they want to - then great. If you use the experience and fail to understand that strippers do this to addict male clients and get them to come back and spend every last cent they have - then you have learned nothing. Good day sir! | /r/seduction | 11/10/22 04:55 AM |
| 2 | What should I do?Don't tell women that they are cute. Use implied compliments (e.g. "I saw you and just *had* to come and meet you") Don't say "buy her a drink sometime". Tell her that you can schedule her in at this place (near your house) at this time because that's where you'll usually be, and you are busy at other times. Then you don't budge your schedule just for her. If she can't make it,... pfffft. If she wants you to take her somewhere else, then NO. She's supposed to follow up with you. Don't call her a… | /r/seduction | 11/10/22 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Got friendzoned. Should I still make the trip?Here's where you need to really start evaluating your time. When I was much younger. I hung out with a group of women, and mostly they were all poisoned by some stupid ideas about guys and were being really being rude and somewhat hostile towards men. Then it dawned on me: I could have been spending my time with women who wanted to have sex with me than a group of women who were behaving like idiots. You have to learn to be the prize and put a premium on who you spend your limited time with. Don… | /r/seduction | 10/10/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Don't give women reasons to reject you. Let them make that decision yourself. Primarily you have to stop beating yourself up and display sexual confidence to women. Women often obsess over their looks as well. But men often want "some strange" with overweight and homely girls as well. Similarly you just don't know what women are into! | /r/seduction | 10/10/22 02:19 AM |
| 4 | In a rut after college graduationSounds like more of a prospect pipeline problem. Once you leave college days behind, your social life and ease of meeting new people takes a massive nose dive, and you have to find other avenues of meeting women. | /r/seduction | 07/10/22 12:03 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Women either respond to: 1. emotions 2. body sensations 3. visualisation 4. something else they can talk about for hours. If you're talking about women with emotional issues (e.g. strippers), then you focus on the body sensations and the visualisation. They're unlikely to feel anything for anyone in a romantic way by virtue of what they do. Many of them use drugs - so talking about exciting body sensations also works to turn them on. | /r/seduction | 06/10/22 04:45 AM |
| -3 | How to let girls know u broke broke?When girls are dictating when and where you meet : THAT'S your problem.You NEVER let them do that. What are you? An unpaid male escort? Tell them that you can't be assed going out tonight because you are "tired".Then invite them over. If they balk at that - just hang up on them. | /r/seduction | 06/10/22 04:31 AM |
| 3 | I can get numbers but not a date.You are clearly just having boring conversations and then just going for a number without any reciprocated displays from women that they're even attracted to you.All that communicates is that you're doing this with every woman you meet (which doesn't make them feel special) and it also reeks of some desperation. Here's what you do: Get a feeling first if the woman is into you or interested before even asking. With some women - there is just no attraction. Just drop the conversation in those case… | /r/seduction | 06/10/22 04:12 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Do you want to have kids with the guy? Get married? Start a family? If not, who cares? | /r/seduction | 05/10/22 05:23 AM |
| 13 | [deleted by user]Only thing is you can't make a lifestyle out of getting drunk every night. Just from the damage that does to your health long-term, although while on campus, it's probably the last thing you are thinking of.,, but keep it in mind. I too, used to be young once. No problem if the girl, is a bit tipsy. Just avoid the completely drunk for obvious reasons. I found that having sex while drunk is not that great anyway. | /r/seduction | 05/10/22 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Is a woman calling a guy "pretty" really a compliment?Some women go for androgenous guys - that is: guys who could look good as either male or female. Who cares as long as she's excited about getting you off though. | /r/seduction | 05/10/22 12:08 AM |
| 6 | Wanna try out online dating? Here's some tips."You're there to show them a good time" Exactly. Also, it's not about your appearance or what you look like. It's more about being comfortable with yourself and how you look, and then being comfortable enough to express your sexuality. | /r/seduction | 05/10/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]What sounds good to women often sounds stupid to men. Just do it a few times and see what happens. | /r/seduction | 04/10/22 10:48 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]It also helps knowing what to do and having a plan. If you have no plan of attack of course you're going to go up there and possibly mess up. Still, you're in college. It's early days in the span of your life. Educational institutions are great places to fail in while learning. First thing to know about seduction with women, is that women view men that they have sex with as manwhores. Not in a literal sense, but in the sense that they expect you to approach, attract them, and then lead them all … | /r/seduction | 04/10/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Do you ever feel like its too much pressure to be good in bed as a male?Women do expect you to know everything. If you were to go to a street hooker and pay her to have sex with you, and then you get into the bedroom and she's all like "I don't know how to give you a good blowjob, can you tell me?" it would be a bit beyond weird. Yet - this is what women expect of men. You'll hear me repeat this over and over again - but women see men as whores who know their craft. | /r/seduction | 04/10/22 03:50 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]I think you've identified the problem: spending too much time chasing women. Ironically the way to avoid doing that is to invest very little time in any that you meet and get THEM to do all the leg work. I think you'll find that by doing that you'll be more successful, AND have more time to yourself. | /r/seduction | 04/10/22 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Why do I only ever attract women who I’m not attracted to / aren’t my type?You don't really get to choose which women find you attractive. Not that it should matter - you aren't going to be investing in them all that much to get them to spread their legs . Plus you don't get pregnant so it shouldn't matter to you which woman you blow your load in. There are literally no consequences for you to have sex with women who aren't the most attractive women. Once you stop being picky you'll find horny women everywhere. Yes, it's nice when a woman that really turns you on wants… | /r/seduction | 29/09/22 07:05 AM |
| 0 | Feels like time is running out22 is stupidly young, and I wish I was 22 again knowing what I know now. College life is the easiest time of your life to meet women. Enjoy it. After this, meeting women becomes much harder. | /r/seduction | 29/09/22 04:14 AM |
| 5 | Being rude to the chick doesn’t make you a “bad boy”. It makes you an asshole(in a bad way).The only thing bad about the "bad boy" is that he refuses to be pinned into a relationship, avoids "dating" activities, is overtly sexual and only available for booty calls, and refuses to stop seeing other women. These are the only things that makes him bad. Otherwise he loves women and women love him. Women are just frustrated that they can't turn him into their provider puppydog. I wouldn't worry about women calling you a womanizer or a manwhore. That's how women expect alphas to be anyway. A… | /r/seduction | 29/09/22 02:29 AM |
| 5 | [FIELD REPORT] First time pulling a native Asian girl>>High intent lines such as "hi you're gorgeous. I wanted to meet you", gives away alot of your leverage. That's very true. Any direct compliment gives away leverage. She thinks she has you in the bag and then she loses interest. Only implied compliments work. I tend to rely on serendipity, because then it takes any sexual intention out of the interaction: "Excuse me. I don't know why, but I just HAD to come over and say hi otherwise I wouldn't get a chance to meet you". It places the blame on f… | /r/seduction | 28/09/22 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone actually achieved this mentality with women?When you have a huge track record of success with women, you will get there. You stop giving a screw about outcomes. You're less desperate to make the sex pop off. So you invite some girl back to your place, and suddenly the girl is carrying on like the second part of "Paradise by the dashboard light", you just don't care that you're going to cop a blueballing, so you kick her out... or let her go, which is more likely to happen. | /r/seduction | 28/09/22 02:34 AM |
| 16 | I’ve (27M) got 5 dates booked this week, but I suck balls at escalation. Any tips or advice?Women don't initiate sexually. What they do instead is to hang around with men and place themselves into positions where sex could feasibly happen (i.e. being alone at your house) and wait for the man to force themselves upon them. All you have to do then is escalate sexually until you get the desired result. It is also possible to wind them up so far sexually that they'll basically invite you over to their place and just about rape you - but in my experience that's not the majority of women. So… | /r/seduction | 27/09/22 12:24 PM |
| 36 | I’ve (27M) got 5 dates booked this week, but I suck balls at escalation. Any tips or advice?I planned out every "first date" to be in the evening (gives the girl a reason to sleep over), and at a bar near my place. I'd push the envelope with conversation there into a slightly sexual direction and after about 30 minutes I'd say "I've got more drinks at my place" and lead her there. No messing about. And yes, sometimes the woman would balk and not come over, but many others did. If she refused, my attitude was all like "Well, why did you want to meet up with me in the first place if you … | /r/seduction | 27/09/22 06:34 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Imagine you are a car salesman. You are trying to sell a car. Are you going to ask the potential customer: "Do you play ball at college?" See what I mean? Maybe you'd start talking about how amazing the car is to drive, or the simple fact that if they were interested in enough to talk to you, that they must be there to buy a car. And now, this is the model you recommend.... and they have to make a decision TODAY or someone else is likely to get it. By the way it's also economical to run and will… | /r/seduction | 27/09/22 06:31 AM |
| 35 | I’ve (27M) got 5 dates booked this week, but I suck balls at escalation. Any tips or advice?Firstly you have to believe that the only reason why the women are meeting up with you and having fun with you is because they want access to your dick eventually. Believe that enough and soon enough it will be true for you. Then you just take her home with any excuse you make up, and if you feel the mood is right start kissing her and feeling her up. As long as she is not running screaming out of the door (which very rarely ever happens if you get to this point), then keep going. And honestly i… | /r/seduction | 27/09/22 05:07 AM |
| 1 | This literally increased my level in the dating gamePunctuation is a thing | /r/seduction | 27/09/22 05:04 AM |
| 3 | Dealing with other menWhen I went out to meet women, I mostly went out alone - and if I did go with another friend, we would go together and touch base once in a while. Other than that we wouldn't get in each other's way when picking up women. If both of us struck out then at least we could go to the bar and chat about it. But honestly, I was much more effective working alone. Now... when by myself and other guys show up to be annoying - that's when it's just a case of saying "Let's go over here for a while" to the g… | /r/seduction | 26/09/22 06:38 AM |
| 6 | How can I take rejection graciously?Even street hookers get rejected, and you are - to women - no different. | /r/seduction | 26/09/22 03:34 AM |
| 30 | The Tinder advice you do want to hearAll your tips are already well known ways of avoiding the algorithm of slapping you into shadowban territory: Good photos with nothing blocking your face in good lighting and adequate distance Not using the app too much, but enough every day to not fall off it's radar Not swiping right on everyone. Using a 70/30 ratio on left to right. | /r/seduction | 25/09/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | I invite you to discuss about the truth of seduction.Can't really speak on absolutes with seduction. What works for a particular man and a particular woman can vary from extremes to others. What you can say, is to create generalized models of human behavior and play the odds of what generally works most of the time. | /r/seduction | 24/09/22 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Don't women get bored of the same questions.She's waiting for you to talk about stuff that matters, than reaches the lower level of her mind regarding her desires which lie underneath the surface issues. | /r/seduction | 24/09/22 01:35 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I can only talk of probabilities and experience. It's not going to necessarily align with hard data, but you have to play with your odds and generalities of human behaviour - building up mental models of what is likely to happen, and then do what works most of the time *all* of the time - unless there are any negating factors. | /r/seduction | 24/09/22 09:03 AM |
| 1 | “Hey do you wanna dance? No I’m with my friends” shittestDon't laugh. It works. Sounds stupid to most men though, but it's a different story with women. It's supposed to be somewhat tongue in cheek anyway. | /r/seduction | 24/09/22 09:00 AM |
| 2 | “Hey do you wanna dance? No I’m with my friends” shittestFirst off I just want to state that there's probably not much you could have said to turn them around - so let's leave you current situation behind and talk more generally. In clubs I find it's the most helpful to be as direct as possible - knowing full well that you're basically selling yourself - but more importantly BECAUSE you are selling yourself that you're not going to be blind-sided by any rejection. Like with most sales approaches - if the customer doesn't want what you are selling then… | /r/seduction | 23/09/22 06:49 AM |
| 4 | [deleted by user]Easy enough to be friends with a girl and ask her out. Something else entirely to go from that into sex however. Although if you got that far with little issue then congrats. | /r/seduction | 23/09/22 06:32 AM |
| 3 | “Hey do you wanna dance? No I’m with my friends” shittestFirst, you should never ask this. Bad opening line. Secondly, understand that some women in clubs are there because it's basically instagram in real life. They just want to be there to suck male attention and show off to their friends when it happens. It's childish, but then so are the women. | /r/seduction | 23/09/22 03:51 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]This is perhaps more accurate. I've had women who despise me as much as I've had women want to ride me in the bed. What's the common demoninator? I was the same person in every case. It was only the women who were different in what they were seeking and looking for - perhaps an issue of timing and so many other factors outside of my control. | /r/seduction | 23/09/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Unless you are in an established relationship with someone, there needs to be a degree of emotional detachment regarding a potential future with themSometimes I feel like Jesus Christ having to explain all his parables in case some idiot takes it literally. | /r/seduction | 23/09/22 01:02 AM |
| 56 | Unless you are in an established relationship with someone, there needs to be a degree of emotional detachment regarding a potential future with themI agree with this, and if I can add my 2c Pick up is a bit like a boxing match. You have keep your guard up at all times while trying to tap your opponent. You keep your guard up by remaining grounded and not letting your emotions run away with you, and you tap your opponent by making them feel turned on with you. To do that, you can't allow yourself to be emotionally involved, and have to take a "lets go find out" playful approach to trying to get her turned on with your patter and body languag… | /r/seduction | 21/09/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | How important is humor in game? And how do you develop it?Humour is massively important to defuse any awkward situation. There are going to be plenty of those when you meet women - right from the approach, to getting her clothes off and beyond. What you DON'T want to do is be a comedian, where all you do is tell joke after joke after joke, with half of them failing and doing nothing to drive the seduction. You're supposed to be seductive and not a clown. | /r/seduction | 21/09/22 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Should you always ask out / get contact info when cold approaching?Your interaction needs to *hook* first before you ask the number. If it doesn't reach that point then asking the number just won't work. You'll get turned down and flaked on. More interesting is that you'll know you've hooked when you feel that you don't need to even ask the number. The women is up for following you wherever you are going to take her and you totally sense her compliance. More importantly, if you're just meeting random women off the street - why would you call them later? Surely … | /r/seduction | 21/09/22 05:43 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]You don't want to come off as desperate. You have to let women make the decision to want to contact you and see you, rather than constantly inviting them. Do you have prostitutes cold calling you asking you to come over? No, of course you don't. Don't be like that to women. | /r/seduction | 20/09/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Is intelligent conversation generally a turnoff?That's because she waiting for YOU to create that spark (You are the manwhore here - men must take the lead) If you can't create that spark in her mind psychologically by leading her imagination into topics where that's likely to happen - you will not get that spark. Also, some women have a seriously hard time getting that fire started. There is that issue too. | /r/seduction | 20/09/22 01:48 AM |
| 3 | Is intelligent conversation generally a turnoff?There's a tonne of info on, palm reading, astrology, and other personality quizzes (the staple of teen girl magazines) and games. Now... do I believe in any of this psychic stuff? Absolutely NOT! Most of it employs the technique of cold reading."The full facts book of cold reading" is on my bookshelf. Cold reading employs conversational slight-of-hand however - and I find that interesting how it hacks the human mind to make connections that never existed... ...but when employed as a psychic read… | /r/seduction | 20/09/22 01:46 AM |
| -2 | Once I realize a girl doesn’t find me attractive, she will no longer get my attention.Well that's just it, isn't it? You can certainly persuade a woman to like you. Final decision as to whether they do or not rests with them. I think it's more useful to find out which methods of persuasion are more effective than others. There are certainly ways of talking to women - fairly well documented - that are highly superior to other methods IMHO. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 09:15 AM |
| 7 | Is intelligent conversation generally a turnoff?This is correct. Women often have an image in their mind of what the end-result is going to look like, but care not for the path to get there. I've seen this ample times when women have demanded things but get frustrated when they are told that what they want isn't possible by any logical means. This is why women are also never interested in the man's personal struggle for success. Women are only interested in waiting at the finish-line to fuck the winners. And that is where you will often find … | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 07:05 AM |
| 36 | Is intelligent conversation generally a turnoff?Talking about astrology (and most of that other pseudoscience BS) is actually useful because it creates a conversational vehicle for talking about desires, fantasies, fate, connections, destiny, serendipity, etc. etc. which are the things you need to be talking to women about when you first meet them if you're trying to attract them. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 07:02 AM |
| 66 | Is intelligent conversation generally a turnoff?Intelligent conversation is fine if you're in a relationship. In fact great conversation is pretty much a prerequisite for being in an LTR But if you haven't had sex yet, and you're on that date somewhere - you don't want to wow her with your intellect. You need to use it in order to plumb her deepest sexual desires and fantasies while coming across as a man that she can like as trust to share them with. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 07:01 AM |
| 19 | Depressed because lack of sexYou're approaching this from the other way around. You're going to see prostitutes. You're supposed to BE the prostitute, for women. What changes in attitude would you need to have to be *that* man? Some homework for you. | /r/seduction | 19/09/22 12:28 AM |
| 5 | Did my first cold approach today and feeling like shitWhich asian country? Sounds like China, Korea or Japan. That reaction is completely normal for most young girls over there | /r/seduction | 16/09/22 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Pickup material ruins my mindThe problem with a lot of seduction material is that it tells you that in order to get women you have to fake a lot of things: Fake outfits (peacocking) Fake social status Fake personalities And none of that is actually useful. Most of it came from the Mystery school of thought, and while it managed to EXPLAIN a lot of what's going on, it didn't help guys get around limitations of looks, status, and personality. Rather it boxed them further into those limitations. Mystery teaching pickup is a li… | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 10:58 PM |
| 2 | How to win the affection of the opposite sex? (Females)This post falls foul of rule 3. NO ADS | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 10:48 PM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]It's much easier to hook up on holiday than usual. The reason for this is that since you are going soon, the woman can engage in a casual hookup without having to worry if you'll end up wanting a relationship or not. For this reason alone it makes her more likely that she'll hook up with you. And now for the most irresponsible comment of the day: Most tourist visas are for 30 days. If you knock her up and go home, she won't find out that she's pregnant until you're gone - so you don't have to wo… | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Turning one night stands into fwbs?That's pretty much it.You actually don't get to decide. The women do. You can then take it or leave it. If you want it, great. If not, then it's your turn to say "I just broke up with my ex and I'm not ready for a relationship right now" :D | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 05:33 AM |
| 5 | I only attract women who want something seriousThis is a pretty typical sort of response from the single mothers and provider hunters using online dating. Sure, they can have a relationship - but you want your dick sucked and dinner made.And if you think that's being sexist, then so is a woman looking to move in with a guy and pay no rent, refuse to do anything useful, and then have the temerity to boss you around or complain when they can't get what they want for nothing. | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Turning one night stands into fwbs?It's not always about sexual performance. She just might have seen you as a jump-off sex partner from the get go. | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 05:16 AM |
| 8 | Asian Pickup ArtistThere's too much focus on getting numbers in the seduction community. Truth is: If you get a reliable number close, it's because they probably would have slept with you right then and there anyway. And then only if she had her eye on you for a relationship of some kind. Getting numbers without actually hooking her emotionally usually doesn't work. They will flake, not pick up the phone, etc. Video is funny, but realistically is not going to get you anywhere. | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 05:14 AM |
| 4 | No reply or replyYeah it's pretty much a salvage operation. Usually club or bar meetups have a "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" vibe to them. That practically means that unless you sleep with them soon after meeting them, then nothing is likely to happen afterwards -- and even if you succeed - nothing is likely to happen afterwards. They were out for some fun THAT NIGHT, and if you failed - or succeeded - the time is up and they're back to their normal lives now. A woman in a bar or a club, is like a horn… | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 05:03 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Even if you think she's lying or messing you around, you can NEVER call anybody out on this and expect to have a relationship left at the end of it. Always keep it in the back of your mind that they *might* be lying, but always give people the benefit of the doubt until they clearly prove it beyond a doubt. When a girl talks about her ex, she's typically talking about a guy she was sleeping with last. Whether they actually had or still have a relationship of some kind or not is somewhat irreleva… | /r/seduction | 15/09/22 04:33 AM |
| 2 | The number one thing you must do from here on out if you are serious about changing your luck with women.One other thing: Even when you are good at this, it's still work. Juggling multiple women can eat a lot of your time, and even when you succeed it can be tiring. | /r/seduction | 14/09/22 01:01 PM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]You're not worth any further responses because you've decided on being a troll. Scratch one problem. | /r/seduction | 14/09/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]The OP has posted a beginner topic, "assumption of physical appearance" post, so will probably get modded. This is a seduction forum, where the aim is to attract a sexual partner IN SPITE OF looks. Besides, you can't change how your face looks (short of going under the knife), but you can always work out - so do that. You can also dress differently, although I've found that dressing up really dapper actually harms your chances. Additionally you might even consider going someplace else in the wor… | /r/seduction | 14/09/22 12:28 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Some of us like to provide context instead of giving one line unhelpful responses... You don't have a problem with that, but I do | /r/seduction | 14/09/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Confessing my feelings tomorrowDoesn't make any difference | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 11:21 PM |
| 1 | How do you smash through any LMR/ASD?What I can say is that you need to plan out ahead of time what states of mind you want the woman to feel. Then you need to find pathways and "grammatical vehicles" in conversation to bring these topics up so you can then describe the states you want her in in explicit detail. Done this way you can bombard a woman on a date with powerful imagery and sensations and not have her resist it, because you are not necessarily talking about yourself or commanding her to do anything. It just happens natur… | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 07:57 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Yes of course, but that was obvious already so I didn't have to state it. | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 06:24 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Clubs are mostly ONS venues. You shouldn't attempt to get numbers in a club. You should be attempting to take them somewhere sex can happen direct from the club. If you do not, sex is unlikely to ever happen and then you end up in this situation. Plus if she's not really feeling anything for you and then you ask for the number, there's a very good chance that the number will flake - if she gives you her number at all. Then you try to call - and you can end up like you are now. Let's think logica… | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Confessing my feelings tomorrowYeah, nah,... don't do this. It sounds lame. What are you trying to do here? You're both underage, so sex is out of the question right now. Do you just want her to obsess over you and kiss you or something? If so, then saying what you want to say to her is not going to achieve this. Women think in terms of emotions and you say the word "friends" twice in what you typed above. What sort of emotion will that give her around you, if you say the word "friends" a lot? When talking to girls/women, don… | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 02:02 AM |
| 4 | Things I've learned about hooking up as an Indian guy in the US.This is similar to what I tell guys who are minorities in countries they are trying to succeed in. You find a niche and you WORK IT. IGNORE the racists and everyone else. You have something that is rare and the majority does NOT have! Maybe only a niche audience will appreciate you, but that's fine. You just then focus on that niche and everyone else can go to hell. | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 01:56 AM |
| 2 | How do you smash through any LMR/ASD?Four pathways to a woman's fantasies: 1) emotions, 2) visualization, 3) body sensation, 4) get her to talk Essentially you can ask her about these. Or lead her in a way you think how is goes and describe it for her. The latter is effective if she's a clam and doesn't talk, or has no frame of reference. | /r/seduction | 13/09/22 01:44 AM |
| 3 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...(Part 2)Lots of sex does feel like masturbation - only with a human body - after a while. I think the only way you can really maintain a player lifestyle is to actually get loads of women pregnant and get away without paying for it - like you're on a damn Genghis Khan quest - but then I have moral issues with doing that. I know some men don't however and have notches into the 4 figures. After all, how come all the people from one country look damn similar? Hmm? | /r/seduction | 12/09/22 08:20 AM |
| 8 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...(Part 2)Sadly I have to agree. I think when I had my kid, it's a great feeling, but it's not really offset by the financial burden and imposition on your freedom.At least you won't be lonely (until they grow up), and then you'll be lonely again. And who are you kidding? The kid is NOT you, he may have some traits similar to yours, but he is not you. You cannot live eternally through them. You'll die all the same. He is not "yours" either! He/she are going to be their own people, mixed up from genetics o… | /r/seduction | 12/09/22 08:15 AM |
| 1 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...(Part 2)Being married and already having a high count before I settled down, you are right about some things but not others. First, I really couldn't give a shit if my wife slept around. Just. Can't. Care.More to the point, all women sleep around like bandits when they are young anyway, so both of you ideally have got that shit out of your system by the time you want kids. Women aren't these angelic angels that have problems spreading their legs. Having a high notch count with women exposes you to that … | /r/seduction | 12/09/22 08:05 AM |
| 2 | How do you smash through any LMR/ASD?LMR basically dovetails into foreplay, but LMR is when the woman's idea of foreplay is to put up fake resistance. Hence she wants it dragged out... If you do back off a little bit and talk some more, you would of course start talking about what it is that makes her feel turned on. Pretty useful to talk about what she wants to have happen during sex so you can provide it. It may just be that she's waiting for you to get annoyed and pin her down and start ripping her clothes off, but you'll need t… | /r/seduction | 11/09/22 11:51 PM |
| 8 | My gf cheated on me. Here's what I learnedMost women, especially young ones, sleep around much more than men do simply because they CAN. It's easy for them with the amount of attention they get. Even girls who are otherwise modest and behaving like "good girls" will still get naked and ride a guy who she deems worthy. The thing is, women like to pretend and project for the most part that they are worthy of keeping in a relationship - but this is only to trap a guy. In reality, they're no different to the most sex-addled man who sleeps a… | /r/seduction | 11/09/22 11:27 PM |
| 11 | How do you smash through any LMR/ASD?It really depends on the kind of resistance you are getting - but what I will say is that very rarely will a woman put herself in a situation where sex could happen if she didn't want to be there. So proceed forward with that in mind. To define: LMR is last minute resistance where she wants sex but gives token resistance. LMR is NOT her getting angry at you and protesting, getting up of the bed/couch and saying that she wants to go home and is hurriedly making moves to go there. If she's doing a… | /r/seduction | 09/09/22 05:54 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]It is rigged, but while he's shooting himself in the foot, he's not even seeing that yet. | /r/seduction | 09/09/22 03:37 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]Here we go, another sob story. If you tell us a story about all the negatives that YOU THINK you suffer from (but may not actually suffer from), and you have that run around in your head all day on repeat - then *of course* it's going to repel women. There's not a single positive comment in there about yourself, and you have to love yourself before you can love others. Remember: let women find reasons to reject you. Don't give them any yourself! I recommend reading Dr Joseph Murphy's seminal boo… | /r/seduction | 09/09/22 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Second dateNever. If sex isn't happening on the first date, for whatever reason (I would always try and push for it), then I leave her with my contact information. If I did my job properly on the date - but just for some reason she was a bit iffy about coming over so quickly - she should call later and want to see me. I will then say that I'm staying home but I would be happy to see her. She then does the rest.AT NO TIME do I let her suggest places to meet up in public or any dates somewhere. It MUST be on… | /r/seduction | 09/09/22 02:20 AM |
| 2 | I finally went to a club!Only an idiot takes their "girlfriend" to a club. I mean - it's a place to get drunk, meet for ONS, or for drug dealers to operate in the dark corners or toilets (not promoting this at all, but if you go clubbing enough, you will sometimes see this take place) Going to a club with a girl you have some kind of relationship with is just a dumb move for any man to do - unless you want to dance together all night long because you both like dancing - in which case you aren't going to be talking to an… | /r/seduction | 08/09/22 11:22 PM |
| 5 | Quick guide to hookeup with a girl at a clubNumber 3 reminds me of the infamous "boob rub" technique. The idea was to hold your beer mug out in front of you and rubbing it gently across the woman's breasts while looking into her eyes so she didn't think it was deliberate. Disclaimer: This post is for entertainment purposes only. I am in no way recommending that anyone do this. Please speak to a lawyer before attempting this technique in your jurisdiction. I will not be held responsible for any negative consequences you incur from doing th… | /r/seduction | 08/09/22 12:40 PM |
| 8 | Quick guide to hookeup with a girl at a clubIn most cases those girls aren't planning to hook up with anyone that night, but rather just bathe in the endless male attention for fun - like a real life version of instagram. | /r/seduction | 08/09/22 12:36 PM |
| 1 | Quick guide to hookeup with a girl at a clubwell you might accidently bump into the walls if you can't see where you're going. Most people learn to stop doing that by age 3 though. And if you're not paying attention to what you're looking at you may end up trying to chat up a pot plant. OK I'll stop being sarcastic | /r/seduction | 08/09/22 12:33 PM |
| 1 | y’all need to be more confidentI think I need to run a bit of a clinic on how men have to talk with women. I hear what the guys are saying. To a degree they aren't wrong, but at the same time you can't engage women with that sort of logic. So we have to fix this: What she's saying is that she wants to feel that incredible connection with a guy that just listens. You know that feeling when you immediately feel super connected to a guy and it's like you feel completely understood? I think what happens is when you listen closely… | /r/seduction | 08/09/22 05:52 AM |
| -2 | Second date ended with us making out. But I got friend zoned?You're on a dating app, so ideally there should only be one date for about half an hour before going back to your place. Any fumble on the way there, any rejection on the way there, needs to be written off. "Let's do this again" is not a good sign unless it's happening after sex. Did you make an attempt to get her home? Don't worry if she's skittish and shy. The "good girl" look is really a ruse. There's typically a nympho under those clothes that's waiting to come out. The only reason I think t… | /r/seduction | 07/09/22 06:02 AM |
| 1 | I have started to slide in people’s dms a week ago and have been quite successfulBut did you get laid? If not, you're just doling out attention to women and calling it success. I don't want to discriminate against guys who just like hanging out with women and being in the friendzone, but presumably you want more than that? | /r/seduction | 07/09/22 03:22 AM |
| 26 | [33M] My game is tight in all areas: look good, feel good, make good money, well built etc. I just don't have the balls to approach! How to work my way up to an approach?I tend to agree with you here. Too much going around pretending not to approach women actually gives off vibes that you have ulterior motives. It's perfectly OK to have motives and communicate them. You can then be a man and just accept what works and what doesn't. Don't go around hiding your desires as a man - that's weak. | /r/seduction | 07/09/22 03:18 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]See above: "Again, it depends greatly on a number of things lining up and working in your favor before getting to doing that" | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 11:34 PM |
| 1 | I keep attracting what I don't want.I'm already married, and we don't do drugs If I want the medieval christianity input, I'll go to the appropriate subreddit. | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | I keep attracting what I don't want.Not here to dismantle your beliefs, rather apply it to seduction to keep it on topic. Anyway, the verse mentioned is so vague that it's open to wide interpretation as to what it actually means in a realistic sense, and in relation to practical application. The reader just comes to their own conclusion - or whichever one is dictated down by the "authorities".It's theology not law. If it were law, Jesus would have used legalese. Instead the reader is left to hallucinate what it means due to the no… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 07:48 AM |
| 58 | Make a habit of talking to all strangers, not just attractive women. Seduction is a subset of being generally charismatic with people.> Try being genuinely interested in how they are doing, and making them feel good about themselves without an end goal in mind, or if they reciprocate your gestures. There's a skill to making people feel good around you. You have to learn it. The value of your communication is directly linked with the response it gets. You're allowed to have a goal in mind. You're making an effort to get to know someone and get a result. Isn't the effort you're making for someone worth something at least? | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 06:26 AM |
| 1 | I keep attracting what I don't want.So the communal wine actually and LITERALLY turns into Jesus' blood? Never mind. I'll see myself out. The notion of humans living forever through children is more biblical than what you think. Matthew 19:14 - hardly the ramblings of a "crazy cult" if it's your own. | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 03:31 AM |
| 1 | What’s the point in working on yourself if you have women dating guys that don’t?That's because the "working on yourself" thing is secondary to actually meeting women. If you want to play games of money, status, looks, with women - then you really don't have much of a chance beyond what you can accomplish in those fields - and worse - women will like you only because you have those things and not because of who you are. Which is why game allows you to sidestep all of that. I think working on yourself is good, but without mastery of actual game you play at a strict disadvanta… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]There are four ways into a woman's panties: emotions visualizations body sensations something else, so get her talking Some basic theory: if you talk about these topics with women, she will begin to associate the good feelings you talk about with you personally - because you are there talking to her, and she is feeling things around you which you are describing. Typically I start off by talking about emotions, so things like incredible connections, anticipation, what she feels when she really cl… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | I keep attracting what I don't want.Probably answering the wrong thread, but there's nothing wrong with marrying for religious reasons if the reasons make sense to you. Trouble is, many religions deal way too much in abstract mumbo-jumbo rather than any rational belief and seem to get themselves involved too much with everyone's sex life - for reasons that are particularly odd. Anyway, I've heard reasons like children being the key to eternal life (quite literally if you think about it)... but yet the children will not be you. The… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Yesterday I wrote a post about being super sad/depressed about consecutive bad dates. I just had sex for 2 hours with a 8/10 girl from bumble. Took me less than 7 messages to get her to my house.Women like to maintain this mystique that they are irrational actors and that men will never figure them out. You may have seen the meme where this man is opening this massive book full of pages with the subtitle "reading the manual on women" or somesuch. Well that's BS. Women *are* rational actors, but you just need to understand the underlying rationale and rules which - admittedly are generalizations and mental frameworks - but pretty accurate ones for most women (but not all). Needless to sa… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 01:30 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Seduction patterns are conversational frameworks which allow capturing and leading of a woman's imagination and the subtle delivery of subliminal commands. You'd use them on a coffee date - for example - to push her mood and state of mind into a positive and receptive one for sex. The best part is, you are at no point coercing her. You actually need to listen to the woman and pay attention to her to find out how and what procedures she needs to undergo in order for her to open up sexually. Bette… | /r/seduction | 06/09/22 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Can a Weak instagram Profile Turn Off Girls?A weak profile will not only turn off girls, but if it doesn't conform to the despotic algorithm that scans your profiles and interactions, you can get shadowbanned. I had a huge reply about how to game the algorithms some time ago, if you want to delve into my comment history. | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 08:28 AM |
| 17 | I keep attracting what I don't want.This is the transactional nature of relationships. Women get to decide if sex happens. Men get to decide if relationships happen. Similarly... Women can fake orgasms, Men can fake entire relationships :) Know your value, men. And award accordingly. | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 08:26 AM |
| 17 | I keep attracting what I don't want.I have no issue with women looking for a relationship, but that typically happens after sex has happened. What's the point of being in a relationship - stuck together for a long time - if you don't enjoy the sex, or don't even KNOW if you'll both enjoy the sex? That should be important for her as much as it is for you - especially if you're with her for a long time! You have to tell these women that they're putting the cart before the horse. Also - you NEVER want to be in the frame of wanting a … | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 06:30 AM |
| 0 | Some days you'll wake up and do your absolute best and the universe will outright fuck you up and humble you and make you feel like shitLife isn't fair. We all get that. But this has nothing to do with seduction at all. So why post this? | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Big guy adviceSize isn't the be-all and end-all though. At a very base level it's all about a woman's need to feel protected. If you can make her feel protected without having to be buff, then more power to you. You are limited to playing the game with typical constraints of physical size, cash, and status - if you haven't the game to talk her panties off. If you HAVE the game to talk her panties off, you can get around many of the limitations most men are stuck with., | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 06:21 AM |
| 28 | Yesterday I wrote a post about being super sad/depressed about consecutive bad dates. I just had sex for 2 hours with a 8/10 girl from bumble. Took me less than 7 messages to get her to my house.The bit where you succeeded is when you put a time limit on meeting with her because you had to "sleep". Aside from saying "sleep" being something of a subliminal message, the fact that you put a time limit on her correct course of action also signaled to her that you value your time, have things going on, so if she doesn't show up - so what? That gave her a green light for some casual sex, because she knew at that point that you weren't going to call her back for a relationship or some other an… | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 06:01 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]Yes. The point of touch is to increase sexual tension - and to do that you really have to LIMIT the amount of touch you give initially. You want her to *want* to be touched by you, so you signal that it CAN happen BUT you're not going to. Not yet! Furthermore, a light touch, or even just a slight invasion of her personal space with sexual overtones is better - although I would save this for when you're not on the street. There's a number of seduction patterns that play with the idea of being tou… | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 05:55 AM |
| 49 | [deleted by user]Women stay interested in men that they cannot have, which is why the bad boy often gets the girl - because he is clearly making no real effort to hide that he is probably sleeping around. This is also why social proof of being with other women produces a cascading/exponential effect where the more women you have around, the easier time you have with them. As soon as you clearly show that you have fallen in love or do anything to overly accommodate them, then women lose interest in you. This is w… | /r/seduction | 05/09/22 04:28 AM |
| 0 | 40 matches and 0 dates. Conversations never start or die after one or two messages. What am I doing wrong?Greetings, Compliments, and Dirty talk are all no-nos. She's heard them all before. Plus if you keep screwing up with your messages the dreaded algorithm with throw you into the shadow-bin where you won't show up in matches as much. You need to use a thought provoking question followed by a cold read mainly. This will build some intrigue - that will get her thinking that nobody's ever asked her that question before. It's essential to be deliberately vague as well. This usually works the same way… | /r/seduction | 01/09/22 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Approached a lot of girls in the club this weekendExactly. by focussing on attempting to turn her on sexually, you reduce your lust and prevent yourself from engaging in mental masturbation. most guys see a girl, fall in love, and it's not mutual. You end up committing emotional energy - for no good reason - and that results in burning yourself out. There is definitely a "make her fall in lust before you do" battle going on in any pickup | /r/seduction | 01/09/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Approached a lot of girls in the club this weekendI don't think you really get what I said. I'm not comparing clubs to ones in Las Vegas. I'm saying that clubs are a wonderland where the normal rules of social interaction generally don't apply and the phrase "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" is an apt explanation for the phenomenon. I don't literally mean "you're in Vegas". I mean that you're in a wonderland where what happens in the club with women, does not get a mention outside of the club - including whatever temporary sexual relation… | /r/seduction | 31/08/22 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Approached a lot of girls in the club this weekendThank you. There's always someone in the peanut gallery that says I'm not allowed to speak in absolutes WHEN I NEVER DID. I talk about my own experience and there's even a bit in there saying quite literally "YMMV." Seriously... for someone to say that I can't speak in absolutes or be allowed generalize adds nothing to the conversation. I understand people's need to have an objective truth presented to them based on statistical evidence - but perhaps I'm a 1% statistical anomaly compared to ever… | /r/seduction | 31/08/22 07:28 AM |
| 33 | Approached a lot of girls in the club this weekendThe trouble with club game is that it's far too easy to just have fun, get drunk, and lose sight of what you're trying to achieve. You actually need to approach the club with a repeatable method in mind and treat it "like a business". I say that in quotes because it's not of course, but the club is treating YOU like a business so to extract maximal benefit from it you need to play it at it's own game. The point of the club is basically to be a live version of instagram for women, and a place for… | /r/seduction | 30/08/22 07:25 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You don't want to be in a relationship. Lots of women don't want to be tied down by one. You want to make love to lots of women. Focus on that, and the opportunity to have a relationship will be left open to you by women - if you want you want to take them up on it. Oh, and by the way, good luck doing this in India. I've never been there but I heard it's a bit tricky compared to other countries. | /r/seduction | 30/08/22 06:59 AM |
| 5 | Had sex with an attractive girl now i'm depressed.My overall attitude to pickup is that I'm putting myself out there like a manwhore and offering women the chance to have fun. Because I'm a "professional" I know exactly how to turn women on, and if they don't want what I've got then it's their loss. If I ever write a book on seduction it will be called the Manwhore's manifesto If you can think of the sleaziest man you've ever met, who ogles at beautiful women and drools at them, and then gives all his money away to hookers and strippers like an… | /r/seduction | 29/08/22 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Girl not ordering any food, drinks etc on dates?Sometimes you can annoy women by not moving things to the bedroom fast enough. You might not realize this, but women get bored with dating, and they don't want to eat your food because it's not what they originally came for. | /r/seduction | 29/08/22 04:14 AM |
| 9 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...The other thing is that most men are driven to sleep around with multiple women. Doesn't matter how hot a particular woman is. Guys will sleep round on lesser women if given the opportunity simply for the fun of it, even if there's a better looking woman at home. This is why some women can't figure out why a man with a hot wife would get caught cheating with some random woman who isn't all that attractive. We're less addicted to perfection and more to variety. | /r/seduction | 29/08/22 04:10 AM |
| 0 | 36F here and I would love a cold approach but in an appropriate manner.People love to use the "you can't generalize" argument when they have nothing to add, IMHO. I'm focusing on cases which fit the generalization on par with personal experience, and in no way denying other possibilities. Generalizations are useful though. That's why they exist. Of course there will always be outliers, but exceptions often prove the rule. | /r/seduction | 26/08/22 08:08 AM |
| -3 | 36F here and I would love a cold approach but in an appropriate manner.It would be about as useful as a man giving dating advice and telling all women just to spread their legs. ...but ... as I'm sure you'd appreciate.... there's a good reason why this would be considered offensive in this day and age. For any man reading, ask yourself why this is the case. | /r/seduction | 26/08/22 03:18 AM |
| 0 | 36F here and I would love a cold approach but in an appropriate manner.Certain people would rather vote this down and bury it rather than debate me as to why they think it's wrong. | /r/seduction | 26/08/22 03:14 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Ok here's where you bullshit yourself: "Getting with women has always been a tough task for me due to my quiet nature, short statue and below average appearance" Evidence please. If you don't know this for sure, there's a good chance you're just bullshitting yourself " i'm trying everything to just keep my self busy through working, studying and working out but the desire to just be kissed , touched or just flirt/ be sexual with a girl is really getting to me." Maybe because you aren't making an… | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 05:01 AM |
| 5 | Cold approach is ineffectiveThe thing about sales is that it's all about getting your prospect to MAKE THE DAMN DECISION. You can have the greatest thing to sell, but if they're still humming and hawing over pulling the trigger to purchase, you're still going to get nowhere. In many cases it has nothing to do with your skill level, the quality of your product, or anything like that. It's all about getting them to have the courage to feel completely safe and comfortable making the decision, and feel really good about it. It… | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Big guy adviceIt will probably take about 6 months before you start to plateau. Keep at it. I found that getting ripped, or at least to a point where you're not clearly fat/unfit does make a positive difference when you're out meeting women - but being in shape isn't a be-all and end-all. You still have to talk the talk. | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Big guy adviceEat less, exercise more. The issue is one of discipline and willpower. Not of physical size. The hardest part of getting into shape is just getting out of the house and getting to the gym and STARTING. Once you're there and doing exercise, then it's easy. Sign up for gym membership. Get a personal trainer. Do about half an hour of lifting heavy weights and then about half an hour of fat burning cardio. The fact that you spend money on membership will encourage you to make the most of it. I used … | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Field Report - one night stand after some rejectionsA lot of club/party pickup is about filtering through a large number of women to find the ones that aren't putting up resistance and are DTF. For sure you will probably get knocked back by idiotic responses a lot, but on the night, you only need one positive response to have a good time, so you can truly afford to have many failures. Just imagine you're walking through a red light district and prostitutes are on the side of the road constantly coming onto you offering their services. You might n… | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Had sex with an attractive girl now i'm depressed.If you're doing this properly, having multiple girlfriends should feel like hard work. Not just in the finding and procurement, but in the scheduling and physical exertion as well. A very good problem to have - but it does become a problem after a while! Being turned down feels like a holiday after a while. | /r/seduction | 25/08/22 12:56 AM |
| 16 | Had sex with an attractive girl now i'm depressed.Some women are only going to be there for casual sex, so to think that you want to entertain a relationship with them is just folly - even if you're looking for one. Not all women are looking for relationships. Some just like casual sex and have no problem using men to do this. So you feel a bit used, but here's your epiphany. Getting laid a lot is not so much about getting hot women, but rather putting yourself out there for other women to have fun with because ultimately you like yourself more… | /r/seduction | 23/08/22 01:00 AM |
| 1 | First Date: Why is it bad to talk about past relationships?It's still cart-before-the-horse you have sex first and then let them decide if they want to pursue anything with you. Judging by how they behave you'll be within your power to decide if you award one or not. | /r/seduction | 23/08/22 12:56 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]wtf is this diatribe doing here? OP is being so vague it's totally meaningless. | /r/seduction | 19/08/22 07:29 AM |
| 2 | My unpopular opinion about modern dating and equalityThe only thing is in the last chapter. If you want to be a daddy, you have to play by the women's rules. Well... that's what always gets you in the end. If you want to be involved with your kids' life as a father, you more or less have to. Spreading your seed far across the world is possibly more liberating, but I sense that would come with some regret... regret that you'll never know your kids, and possible regret that they're going to suffer as a result of not having you in their life. Also re… | /r/seduction | 19/08/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | My unpopular opinion about modern dating and equalityWomen often get what they want in society. They are not powerless. It isn't as obvious as having a visible figurehead - like in a patriarchy - but women have very subtle power. If men bust themselves getting wealth, power, and status, and then laying it all at the feet of women in the hope of procreating,-- then who has the power? The man who does all the work, or the woman who silently exploits it? https://archive.org/details/AnatomyOfFemalePower_201906/mode/2up | /r/seduction | 19/08/22 04:18 AM |
| -1 | [deleted by user]Because you didn't have sex with her after the first date, you're pretty much on the back foot. You need to set up the next meeting so it only goes for about an hour tops before you take her to the sex location, or upset her trying to get there. You also need to communicate that you are BUSY. You can't respond to her all the time because you have other things to do. But you have this window of opportunity for this second meetup, but that's it, and it's all you can afford her, and if she won't sh… | /r/seduction | 19/08/22 04:12 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]You do need to display achievements, but let this be a puzzle for women to solve. Telling her outright has no mystery about it. You do need to be proud of your achievements and communicate them. According to psychologists, it all starts when we make little successes in life as a child - like learning to walk, or doing a dump in the toilet. | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 11:53 PM |
| 0 | Three words have never been more profound in this dating age………..let her go(this is my opinion)Fuck, why even come on this subreddit where it's basically a place for men to help other men and piss on our legs? FFS, OF COURSE it doesn't apply to all women, but I deliberately MAKE that distinction. Some women WILL, some women WON'T. And that's FINE. Why? Because I'm telling guys to avoid women THAT I'M TELLING THEM TO AVOID.Logic isn't your strong point, clearly. Yes, some people want to get to know someone or base a relationship on a strong emotional bond. I'm here to tell you that all of … | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 11:32 PM |
| 3 | 30 year old delivering pizzas on side. 40s sexy cougar seems to like meIf this was a high paying executive role, then yes, I would agree with you. But this is being a pizza delivery driver. I mean, it will almost have no bearing on future work prospects as long as something scandalous doesn't get smeared all over the internet and linked to him. | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Don’t stress about the perfect opener. If she’s chill or has any decent social skills at all, then it doesn’t matter."Hi" is fine as a basic opener, but you can finesse your opener a bit better too. E.g. "I saw you there and I just *had* to come over and speak to you, or I'd never get to meet you" You can almost never get rejected by that. If anything she'll say that she's "not in the mood" or ignore you, but that's about as bad as it's going to get. | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Three words have never been more profound in this dating age………..let her go(this is my opinion)That's right. You have over a decade of personal first-hand experience....but women don't a hive mind. Your experience isn't going to be the same as other women's experience. No personal attack here against women with no or low sex drive. OBVIOUSLY as a seduction subreddit, this is going to represent a challenge for men to overcome - IF they choose to spend the time and money trying to overcome this.All I am saying is that, in my experience, it's not worth it.... BUT I could be wrong.... However… | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Three words have never been more profound in this dating age………..let her go(this is my opinion)The women I used to be with went into heat like wild animals. But yeah, it doesn't happen to all women. I've met some who just shrugged off their period like an annoyance. In fact, their sex drive was so low, they might have only felt anything for men maybe one day of the month... which is 12 days in a year... meaning that the window for ANY guy to get with them was so tiny that it'll probably likely never happen for them.... and even if by magic it DID happen.... no man will seriously consider … | /r/seduction | 18/08/22 12:45 AM |
| 0 | dajting apps and some women who enjoy leading desperate guy on for attentionThis would work if you could somehow prove in your profile that you're an expert and heavily experienced with controlling and handling submissives and you have testimonals to back that up. Possibly because you're in some BDSM group or something. You're issue is one of credibility - not one of approach. All the same it's going to filter out a lot of women, but if you can overcome the credibility gap then you may end up with a couple of kinky women who want someone to dominate them. Not an approac… | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 07:50 AM |
| 9 | [deleted by user]Mods... we got a live one here. | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 07:46 AM |
| 13 | ABCs of GameI thought ABC was for "Always Be Closing" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrhSLf0I-HM | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 07:43 AM |
| 17 | Three words have never been more profound in this dating age………..let her go(this is my opinion)Got voted down nasty by a lot of people for saying this before, but I'll say it again because it is true, and getting voted down won't change the fact that it is either. A man has, on average, a month to get a woman into bed. A sexually active woman ovulates once a month, during which time her body is literally screaming at her to go and get laid before her egg dies. Either womwn act on these hormones sexually with someone, or they deliberately choose not to with anyone. If that man is not you, … | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 05:39 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTjvG4WJD\_A | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 12:10 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Confucious say: Man who walk through airport sliding door sideways is going to Bang Cock! | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 12:08 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoThat's the problem with dating apps. Don't let them be your only and main strategy to meet women. Online is basically a bonus round where you might get a booty call once in a while. | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 12:06 AM |
| 1 | 7 Rejections since starting two weeks ago. How do I not let this get to me?That comes from the confidence that you UNDERSTANDING YOUR VALUE to women. A lot of guys don't understand what value they are giving away to women for free. You have to learn to make them work for it! You have to know what you're doing. I'm confident because I know exactly how to steer an interaction, AND I know I can rock a girl's world because I've done it before. A lot of it is knowledge, but it's also previous experience. Experience comes from failing a lot, but you'll mostly get it from the… | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 08:19 AM |
| 2 | is she flirty or she just doesnt like meI generally don't advocate the cocky/funny, teasing, negging route because it's not seductive. Being fun and playful is important, but trying to tease too aggressively sets you on the path of being the entertaining clown - not a sexy guy that women swoon for. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 02:44 AM |
| 2 | 7 Rejections since starting two weeks ago. How do I not let this get to me?Here's the thing: If you love yourself enough, and realize what you have to offer women, the rejections don't hurt at all. You kinda feel sorry for them for missing out. It's only when you're not sure of yourself, not really sure if you you like yourself, and you're trying to GET something from them selfishly that the rejections chip away at your self-esteem. It's something of a test. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 01:38 AM |
| 7 | Maybe Im genuinely……..a nice guyWomen want a dangerous man who is nice. Not a weak man who is nice. Big difference. Being seuxally forward makes you "dangerous" which is why the shit-tests come out, to give you an opportunity to prove that you are actually nice. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoIf you're not even running material to attract them, and nothing you try works, then move on. If you're just expecting women to jump you, it's not going to happen. Or it might, however very rarely, and likely when you're both drunk or something.... but other than that... If you're not able to get them to chase you then that's the problem that needs addressing. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Do you text a girl everyday until the date?Dating sucks. Go somewhere, do your thing, invite her to tag along. Set it up from the beginning that you want to see her, but there's a price to be paid, and that price is to make some effort. Of course you don't verbalize it, but you need to neutralize any sense of neediness you might be projecting onto her. texting a girl all the time is just...lame. | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 08:04 AM |
| 4 | [deleted by user]Have a drink or two to loosen up, but beyond that you're still harming yourself. What might help is to remember the mental state you were in when you were drunk and try to recall what it was like and what you felt when you were drunk and doing well with women. Should be at least as effective as drinking without actually doing it. It's all in the mind. | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 06:41 AM |
| 3 | How do men like to have sex initiated?Yes | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Time to call on Supertramp: https://youtu.be/qJwJ\_A\_SWBs | /r/seduction | 15/08/22 03:47 AM |
| 5 | I've got her number from a group chat. Can I text her without it being creepy?Well if she's initiating contact with you, why haven't you taken charge of the conversation? If you think she's already interested, don't ask her out on a date (this just sets off all sorts of female alarm bells) - rather tell her that you're going to be somewhere having fun and if she would like to join you - to get in contact with you and find you there. That way she gets your number, calls you, and does all the legwork - without you having to do very much. In fact - doing a lot for a girl who… | /r/seduction | 14/08/22 01:31 PM |
| 10 | [deleted by user]Yeah but are you getting laid 10 drinks deep, or do you just feel more comfortable with yourself? Here's the thing about getting absolutely shitfaced drunk: You might *feel* a million dollars, but everyone is looking at you like you're a drunk idiot. Seen it and done it myself. Been talking to a girl and some guy whose completely wasted shows up and trying to cock block. He thinks he's making progress and feels great about himself, but I can see the woman's face and the reaction isn't good. Plus… | /r/seduction | 14/08/22 01:17 PM |
| 14 | The instant you show a girl too much interest, she plays hardIn short, you need to do stuff to her emotions before you allow her to do stuff to your emotions. A lot of it is a mental issue from the man's side. We tend to go into altered states when we see attractive women. Meeting women, good looking or not, will gives us a second impression different to our first. Sometimes the hot looking women have terrible personalities that turn us off. Sometimes women who aren't objectively good looking manage to turn us on! So don't trust your first instincts. What… | /r/seduction | 14/08/22 11:42 AM |
| -3 | Don’t be intimidated by a hot girl’s impressive IG presenceThere is one thing about IG girls and girls who are open to having photos taken of them, and is that they're all vulnerable to the pornographers gambit. I heard about this method from a pro porn photographer, but actually haven't tried it myself. Note that this only will work on women who love being in the eye of the camera. You can "seduce" them by just telling them that they are beautiful BECAUSE you're a professional photographer and because it's your job to scout talent. This takes all the c… | /r/seduction | 14/08/22 07:16 AM |
| 12 | Did my first cold approach todayLet it go. Some "women" have the maturity of a 5 year old girl. Boys are all creepy! Yuck! :D | /r/seduction | 14/08/22 06:55 AM |
| 2 | How am I supposed to get more experience with sex and relationships when nobody will give me a chance?I remember this guy. Haven't got his stuff, but I'll check it out and review | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 04:31 AM |
| 2 | How am I supposed to get more experience with sex and relationships when nobody will give me a chance?The system is rigged against men, which is why you have to "game" the system. If you're playing by the rules society wants you to play by (and by society, I mean women), then you will lose. Clearly you have issues with just meeting women, so you are going to need to get a handle on that - like everyone else does - by actually doing it. We can't tell or see exactly how you're coming across or what you're saying - but likely it's putting out the wrong vibe. Perhaps you have some messed up beliefs … | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 04:31 AM |
| 2 | This could just be a coincidence but in my experience whenever I'm toxic a girl wants to be with me but when I'm genuinely nice and not toxic to girls they usually dump me. Why?It's not toxic behaviour if all you want to do is have sex with them and nothing else. That's perfectly normal. Maybe you'll meet one who makes you feel differently one day. Just don't be deliberately horrible to them. | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 05:06 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]You punk'd yourself. "You lost me at female" followed by "is the exact scenario many women have complained about". Good grief.And clearly people DO use the word "hermaphrodite" because I did, and I learnt it in a dictionary - written and vetted by many other people. That invalidates your claim from the get go. Logic's not your strong point. But then if you get men and women confused, how could it be? | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 05:01 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]Hermaphrodite is a word in the dictionary. Look it up. Sheesh. I don't care if you live in fantasy la-la land where commonly understood facts and truth don't matter. That's GREAT. Just don't expect everyone to go there with you. | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 03:33 AM |
| 13 | [deleted by user]I take it by your avatar you're one of these charming people who believe that sex and gender doesn't exist.... flying in the face of what we know about biology. I guess if people are all hermaphrodites, they can all go fuck themselves. Quite literally. I think you should just trust the science. | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 02:19 AM |
| 3 | What made you fall in love?Wow that's very good seductive patter OP. Almost had me falling in love there. The only thing that keeps me in a relationship with a woman is the fact that I need her to look after our children. I wanted them. She's fundamental to their wellbeing. It's also nice that we have matching personalities and sex drives which makes the arrangement much easier to handle. | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 01:09 AM |
| 52 | [deleted by user]The female mating strategy involves getting as much attention from men as possible and winning their hearts over. Once they manage to capture a man's heart, the fun is over for them, so they look for someone else. It's basically the same thing when a guy gets tired of having sex with one woman and now wants to have sex with another one. This is why telling young girls "I love you" is romantic suicide. Real love involves having a family together and raising kids. You can say "I love you" as much … | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]No, 30s is when it all kicks off! Not harder at all. I tend to find that FWB is basically a woman being keen on a relationship but willing to bide her time with whatever your sexual kink is until she can either turn you into a serious prospect, or find someone offering the marriage proposal. Best way to advertise casual sex is to not try too hard with women and state that your availability is difficult outside of right this very moment. Move them to sex, but if they get cold feet then tell them … | /r/seduction | 10/08/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Found myself with better-quality women after prioritizing honesty over getting laid.Yep. that's a good book | /r/seduction | 09/08/22 11:11 PM |
| 2 | BooksI read his free except on phone numbers, and agree with most but not all of it. Bits about only getting numbers where there's already attraction is solid. Also the same with texting. Don't do it often if you have to and don't be cute with it. What I find amusing in his except is the flake text transcript. Clearly he got her interested enough to get the number - but then it all falls apart when he calls up! Suddenly the girl is all about refusing to show because he was leaving soon - putting out … | /r/seduction | 09/08/22 03:40 AM |
| 2 | BooksIt's good to not run out of things to say, but if you're starting out talking about the wrong things - or trying to appear intelligent - then this isn't necessarily going to work to get her hot and heavy. It's useful if you're actually trying to start a relationship - but even then you may alienate girls who lack the intelligence to match you. "Win friends and influence people" is a good book though. I would also recommend "The Power of your subconscious mind" | /r/seduction | 09/08/22 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Is it a bad thing for girls to see me approach other girls after closing with them ?It's actually not, because eventually a woman who is DTF is going to see what you're doing and come over to have some of what you're dishing up. You just don't want to have a terrible interaction that creates a scene. Obviously you're going to be skilled enough to prevent that from happening, right? In a large event, you ideally don't want to go collecting numbers (I never do), but rather see how far you can push the interaction with someone there. You're not going to be able to lay "dibs" on al… | /r/seduction | 09/08/22 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Girls have been telling me i’m too ”held back” when i’m at the clubYes! Who are these women and where can I meet them ? :D j/k | /r/seduction | 09/08/22 02:33 AM |
| 3 | Social proof trips me outA lot of women want casual hookups, so clearly the nice guy who clings onto her and makes too much effort to get her is going to be a royal PITA, and possibly a stalker. That is why to the so-called "bad boys" who want nothing other than to bang her and let her go afterwards usually end up becoming the targets a woman aims at. Of course, women don't say that they want casual hookups. The net effect of advertising that would be incredibly detrimental to her. Especially in societies where that is … | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 06:56 AM |
| 1 | How to get over lost time?Firstly, I can say that everything you're telling yourself is BS. 31 is a FANTASTIC age to be. You should be sufficiently on your feet financially and old enough to be experienced with younger girls. Your problem? You're probably living somewhere which is not conducive to meeting the right women. Western English speaking countries have turned into something of a sexual wasteland. I won't go explaining as to why this is, or certain people will get triggered. You know what I mean. Trouble is that … | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 06:12 AM |
| 4 | A few things I've learned online dating as a man. I really wish I could have told myself this a year ago:Agreed. You should never try hard on any date to make an impression by trying to be fancy. You might think it impresses her, but in fact it just shows that you're too involved in trying to get her - and because of that she's going to feel UNSAFE. Possible needy stalker vibes and a guy who demands a relationship or some shit. A lot of women are open for casual sex, but the door to that will be shut the minute that she suspects you'll catch feelings and try to keep contacting her afterwards. | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 06:05 AM |
| 9 | A few things I've learned online dating as a man. I really wish I could have told myself this a year ago:Wine bar is fine. One drink for her, one for you - total: maybe $20, tops. Then you chat and afterwards you tell her you have way more drinks at your place. It really depends. Some women are so good to go that they're happy just to be taken straight to your place, but many will like the excuse to go to your place and let "things go out of control" and ride that wave of unplanned destiny ;) Many women desire a strong lead and don't want the idea of having to decide to have sex. They'd rather that… | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 06:01 AM |
| 4 | A few things I've learned online dating as a man. I really wish I could have told myself this a year ago:He he... I can relate! Actually the date part just got boring for me after a while because I'd just do the same thing every date. I suppose I could have mixed it up, but part of the reason why it worked so well because it was close to my pad! | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Charisma is part of it too. The romantic/sexual lyrics don't really work to convey a mood without any conviction behind them. Basically performers have to get themselves in such a state while singing that the singing is authentic. How this translates to seduction when you are not singing:- I find that when you talk dirty to women it has to be equally convincing. Like I know I can bang her really well and I look at her in such a way that conveys that - along with what I'm saying. | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | How to approach without giving out a thirsty vibe?Why would it be? It worked for me.... | /r/seduction | 08/08/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | i... i may have a date from daytime cold approach? wowYou probably gave off relationship vibes and she turned THAT down. Sometimes women are just up for casual sex, and the idea of a man wanting a relationship turns her off. She would be ok with just sex, but not a guy who might get attached and clingy and stalk her. It's the last thing she wants for her own sense of freedom and security. This is why traditional dating frames often fail. It is also why guys who are deliberately unfaithful and trying to sleep around often get the nookie. Women do li… | /r/seduction | 07/08/22 07:32 AM |
| 1 | i... i may have a date from daytime cold approach? wowYou might not have an interest in the 3 Fs (Find Fuck and Flee) but they might! | /r/seduction | 07/08/22 07:29 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Half the reason why pop stars and rock stars get women screaming and throwing panties at them, and then tracking them down afterwards to be groupies... is because the content of the lyrics is usually romantic/sexual. How many songs are there about love? Geez, it's not without good reason. Just ask Elvis how he started dancing as well. Yes I know - rock stars also have insane social proof, which is either organic or generated by their record label, that creates an exponential social proof feedbac… | /r/seduction | 07/08/22 07:01 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You're not laughing it off, your laughing it IN | /r/seduction | 07/08/22 05:07 AM |
| 2 | How to approach without giving out a thirsty vibe?You're self sabotaging yourself before meeting any girl. The point of even approaching is to see if she's going to be fun to play with. Pick up is mostly excavating easy to find gold nuggets, not digging a huge mine. For every girl that doesn't want to play, others will. Stop focusing on the only woman you're attracted to, and talk to all of them. Deal with the fact that you're only there to award a woman the joy of being with you, and she might not be that hot, but so what? You want to get laid… | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | A quick rant about Reddit’s views on cold approaches, and a word of encouragementIs it illegal to cold approach women on the street? No? What's the problem? | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]How old are you? 7? | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 03:10 AM |
| -4 | [deleted by user]Fun adventure stories are fun, but she just may not want to hump you afterwards. You are literally advertising sex with you to her, so focus on selling her on the feelings that may go with that. | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 01:34 AM |
| 16 | [deleted by user]You want to tell stories that evoke the following feelings first: fascination, curiosity, anticipation, trust, comfort, connection, spark And then follow that up with desire, lust, horniness, longing, passion Seduction - in so far as talking to women - is all about driving towards her having an emotional response. You can tell stories (what someone said, what you saw on TV, what you read on reddit, etc), and within the stories you basically describe to them all the feelings, emotions, and visual… | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 01:33 AM |
| 14 | How to approach without giving out a thirsty vibe?You're probably stepping up to her worried about whether what you are doing is going to work or not. The best attitude to have with women is one of just messing with her to see if she's going to be fun herself. If she's not, then no big deal. You still have a million dollar check. Go give it to a woman who wants it! | /r/seduction | 05/08/22 01:23 AM |
| 140 | What is it about Pete DavidsonCombination of fame, positive attitude, access to women, and MASSIVE social proof. Ariana Grande saying he had a big schlong... it doesn't get much better than that. That and the guy is just happy-go-lucky and socially and emotionally skilled.He may have had a tough life starting out, but you can't wipe the damn smile off his face, and he acts like a little kid - which women also find attractive. He's not some angry douche whose blaming other people (like Kanye) I've met similar guys. They act i… | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 06:23 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]I've often thought that men should strive to be manwhores to women - that is, if you want a huge notch count. That actually involves giving of yourself. Not trying to get for yourself but rather finding women who need you and sleeping with them - instead of trying to go for the inaccessible 9s and 10s - unless of course, they happen to want what you've got. This makes pickup more selfless. This also makes "rejection" much easier to handle because you're going to be spreading out your "would you … | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 05:48 AM |
| 2 | How do guys pull girls at church, and if it doesn't work out, how do they keep going and keep trying if it doesn't work out.Serendipity is your friend. You feel drawn to her for ... well, .... only God knows what reason... | /r/seduction | 04/08/22 05:41 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Your original post got wiped, so clearly nobody understood it. All I did was define what a simp was. What is your problem? | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 06:48 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Ask her out now. "Would she like to *do* something?" | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:16 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Simping is - by definition - giving positive attention to women when it isn't either being welcomed or reciprocated, to the point of self-deprecation. There have been a few other words used in the past. Being an AFC (average frustrated chump), or "pedestaling" women. If you are compromising your identity, your life, your finances, your happiness, in order to get some tail - then you are a simp. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 03:12 AM |
| 1 | I Never Get the Women I Truly Desire (Help)Seen in multiple times at parties. Hot women in sexy outfits - attention-whoring. Whatever. Surrounded by guys all trying and hoping to get somewhere with them. I ignore them, and found a girl who maybe wasn't quite as hot (but not bad) getting zero attention. I end up leaving with her. At the end of the party, both the attention whores and all her male hangers on are leaving separately. Meanwhile I take the girl I met home and explore her inner space. | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 02:03 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You're young. In 20 years time you'll look back on photos of yourself and recall in a way - that you can't grasp now - of how much opportunity lay before you and how good you really looked. Wait until you're an old bugger like me. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 08:04 AM |
| 3 | Is picking up girls at the beach possible?Is it illegal? No. Then OK, you have permission. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Deep talk with girlsYeah it seems to absolutely make no sense but it works. In fact it's completely bonkers, but when you have conversations with women like THAT - THEN you start getting interesting results which might just surprise you. To seduce a woman, you just have to put ideas into her head - which are accepted and not resisted. For example, I can't walk up to a girl and say "You are going to enjoy licking my cock". It would go nowhere!! It will be resisted. So you have to make her think it was her own idea, … | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 07:22 AM |
| 22 | I Never Get the Women I Truly Desire (Help)You can fake this in a social setting. Go to a socialite party and walk around introducing yourself as if you're hosting the event. Of course you aren't, and you never claim that you are - but act "as if" and I swear you'll notice a big difference in the way you are treated. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 06:26 AM |
| 21 | I Never Get the Women I Truly Desire (Help)I'm going to give an answer and it's probably not the one you want to hear. When looking for love, you are giving yourself away. Not necessarily trying to get anything for yourself. You're offering women good vibes and sex. In part of giving that away, you are going to get some too. You need to fundamentally look at your approach from that angle, otherwise your neediness will prevent you from hooking up with some of the top tier women.I often found that sure, amongst some of the women I hooked u… | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Deep talk with girlsYeah, well she seems like she's young and just enjoying the male attention. When they don't have any answers, that when you start telling them a story about a female "friend" of yours who began to feel exceptionally turned on with a guy. She felt that she didn't just want to just have an interesting conversation - that she wanted to act on it.... so later on she went home and began thinking about this guy in her head... over and over.. and over again until she started to go crazy, whispering thi… | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Social skills - how do you make your conversations less dry?Ross Jeffries and Speed Seduction is probably the most useful for this. Once you understand what works, (and have seen it work for yourself and have crazy good results), you'll never have a problem with what to talk to women about again. | /r/seduction | 01/08/22 04:19 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on how to proceedThat's great. How do you intend to bang her then? You have to get your logistics sorted or trying to get some isn't going to work no matter what you do. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 08:07 AM |
| 3 | Deep talk with girlsThis is actually a good question for once on this subreddit. Some girls will talk, and some will stay quiet. Some might actually give some back and forth with you. Ideally you want to be able to talk so you can steer the conversation. If you get a chance to talk, you should attempt to talk about her dreams, desires, and what it's like when she's with a man who turns her on so completely, that she pictures this guy in her mind in all sorts of different... ways... etc. OK, so asking her about her … | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 07:59 AM |
| 5 | Thoughts on how to proceedIf you go to the same college then talk to her in person. Put the damn cell phone down. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 03:37 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]So in short, your strategy is get drunk, and then get lucky. That sounds more like the hope strategy. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 02:09 AM |
| 0 | "relationship goals" in online datingOnline dating is for hookups. I'm not saying that you can't turn an online hookup into something longer lasting. If you blow her mind and she's dead set on making a keeper out of you, and you let her, she can. Of course there are plenty of single mothers looking for a baby daddy online. Just watch that and avoid. But by and large if you're a betting man - online is only for hookups. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 02:06 AM |
| 4 | What is it that makes the men 'unable to commit' so desirable to women who want them to commit to exclusivity?There's a bit of an ego challenge to the woman to get a guy who won't commit into a guy who will commit. There's the social proof aspect of it (other girls want him, therefore he is attractive), which just puts a bigger target on his head. This stupidity soon passes when she ends up as a single mother. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 02:03 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]Not all men are looking for one night stands, but the fact that all men THAT SHE HAS HOOKED UP with have been looking for one night stands tells you EXACTLY what her game plan is. She just wants a casual find, f**k, and flee. I can appreciate that. Personally if I like a woman enough to want to have sex with her, of course I want to see her again. But women with so many options, so little time, have no problem using men for sex. ... until someone knocks her up that is. Of course they can't openl… | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 01:58 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]A few red flags: 1) You're 28 and lived together with a woman for 4 years? Fuck, wait until you're in your 40s or older to do that. 2) 20 is too young for you? FFS, not for most men I know 3) Just fuck her already. This is what college is for. Stop obsessing over BS. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 01:53 AM |
| 54 | The moment of clarity when you realise there’s no sparkWhere there's no spark, you have to create it. But when you've thrown everything at it and there's still nothing - move on. | /r/seduction | 29/07/22 01:49 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]It basically means that when you talk to women, that you look at them like you know you can shag them really well in the sack. And you talk like you can as well. It's more body language and vocal tonality. I've picked up women just going up to them and saying "How surprised would you be to REALLY enjoy spending time with me", in the deepest, sexiest voice I could pull off. And yeah, I pulled her. Didn't need to do too much after that. | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 07:09 AM |
| 1 | How often should I text a girl?Jesus..., not this question again.... | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 07:06 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Hey! You're the one asking for help! I'm giving you top shelf advice which you just aren't ready for yet. | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 07:04 AM |
| 11 | [deleted by user]you sure she doesn't work there and is trying to bring in new clientele? The whole point of strip clubs is to strip you of your money. Strippers are also emotionally dinged. Trying to talk about love at first sight and "incredible connections" where two people just click is probably going to get you blank stares. Strippers like intense visualizations and excitement. Many use drugs. And many won't pay you any attention until you make it rain. | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 12:31 AM |
| 23 | Why are women such in the moment creatures?You probably didn't seal the deal. Hence the ghosting. Actually even with sex you might still get ghosted. Fact is that once you've slept with a lot of women, you begin to learn that women actually use men for sex more often than not. Being that asshole who could care less about her and just wants to get his dick wet actually plays into this mindset - which is also often how guys get laid. If the woman knows that the man ALSO knows that he is disposable to her and just doesn't care.... it makes … | /r/seduction | 27/07/22 05:29 AM |
| 20 | Thought of the day: She’ll fuck you if you make her feel attractive + have a connection with herThe "feeling of connection" is a mental process that women go through when they feel that "spark" and that they just "click" Note the key words here. You can literally start talking with women about what it's like when you feel a connection and that magic spark that lets you know you're with a guy you can like and trust for a very long time right up to the point where you FEEL really turned on.... yada yada blah blah... and they'll begin that mental process by recalling a time when they felt all… | /r/seduction | 27/07/22 05:18 AM |
| 2 | How to tell other women you've been dating you found someoneYou don't actually owe them anything IF you haven't promised anything exclusive. I know this is going to be a shock to some girls who immediately assume that having sex = relationship, but unless you've actually spoken about it and have an understanding about it, the guy is entirely within his rights to do whatever he wants. | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 06:16 AM |
| 6 | Lower your standards, sleep with some fun women, and your abundance mindset will become real, and hotter girls more accessible.I totally agree with this sentiment. The upside is that you end up sleeping around a hell of a lot more than you otherwise would. Your overall skill goes up. Negatives mean that you're having sex with a gorgeous babe one day and a BBW the next. Who cares right? You will, after a while, feel like a manwhore. You end up making a lot of effort for a lot of women and it wears you out. It will start to feel like a job. That, right there, will give you some epiphanies about female behavior. | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Went from no sex in 4 months to twice in one weekI just think that if you're telling a girl to "learn to love myself" while you're talking to her is going to get her to learn to love you. It's amazing but sometimes it's the small things you say during a conversaion that push women in the right direction. Subconsciously. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 06:31 AM |
| 2 | How to make a connection on a first date.The only thing you're getting her to feel on the date is peaceful comfort because you are not taking control and leading her down a path to how she wants to be seduced.She's sitting at the date, listening to your sales pitch. If you have no sales pitch and you're shrugging your shoulders waiting for something to happen, you will get the response you got. What you need to do is hone the conversation. There are four possible ways into a woman's pants: Emotions (trust, comfort, feeling connected, a… | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 03:58 AM |
| -1 | Think she’s mad coz I made her give me head?Having a shower together didn't occur to you? Best thing you can do now is admit to her that you're sorry and that you should have had a shower first. That said, I don't blame you that much. I did lick a girl out before she showered once and I ended up with some throat infection. Lesson learnt. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Went from no sex in 4 months to twice in one weekWould be interested to hear what you actually talked about so we can see how this related into you getting laid. There is something to be said for rambling on when picking up women. Sometimes when using seduction patterns, you can end up making language structures which sound like proper English and should make sense, but very often are just a rambling on of emotive language. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | genuine question but how do you personally treat women you’re not attracted to?Men should always be civil at the bare minimum I think. But just because one man doesn't find you attractive doesn't mean all men won't. Men have some very diverse and weird and kinky fetishes and may find the look attractive. When a guy sleeps around a lot, he will have hooked up with a lot of different girls all over the inclusion and diversity department. | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:44 AM |
| 33 | Think she’s mad coz I made her give me head?"This should go both ways" means that you go down on her too. You never went down on her. Did you? *facepalm* | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]While this is mostly true, good game can get a woman who is only feeling mild comfort with you and push her over the edge into wanting you. Don't dismiss it. Decent game will short-circuit most of the limiting factors that a lot of guys have to getting laid (money, looks, status). After all, when a woman falls in love, it is a mental process. Love mostly happens when the other person is not around. It is 100% mental. All game does is hijack those feelings by recreating them and then redirecting … | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:07 AM |
| 4 | Talking to girls on the phone is super underratedTalking sexually over the phone with a woman is really good. David Shade did a recording on how to do great phone sex. Essentially you manage to build it up by talking about a sense of longing, and then talk about what you would do if you were there.... gently kissing, nibbling her ear, sliding your hand up her top, etc. etc.... and then you just run with it all the way to it's natural conclusion. If you've got her going over the phone then when she sees you again she'll probably jump you. Anywa… | /r/seduction | 25/07/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | How do I fight the overwhelming urge to reply to texts immediately?You don't even know who you're talking to. | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 11:57 PM |
| 1 | I realized I don't want a relationshipYeah. No kidding. But you don't know if a relationship is possible unless you try. I mean... what's the alternative? | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Follow-up on a Girl telling She's Got a BFI mean, if she keeps yammering on about the Boyfriend, you can even say things like: "I recognize that relationships are important to you. They are to me too and I respect that. An essential part of that is allowing yourself to completely trust the person you are with. So if you want to see other people as a natural extension of that trust, it's totally OK because a healthy relationship allows that to take place and has no desire to take away your freedom to do so." ba-da-bim ba-da-boom | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 07:01 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Just follow my profile and read my previous posts. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Follow-up on a Girl telling She's Got a BFIf it works and you actually get time to sit with her, you then just do the same thing but instead of "like and trust", you just ramp it up to "feel attraction and desire for". Sure, she may even talk about the boyfriend.... fine, let her do that... then say something like "It's great when you can feel that way, but what's even better is when you know that you're going to experience all of that again in an even more powerful way with someone new! As that's taking place I'm not saying that that p… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 06:19 AM |
| -1 | [deleted by user]One thing that you learn as a man is that the decision to have sex rests with the woman. If not, then EPAR would be legal - but of course it isn't and it's just wrong. It's wrong because women are the ones granted by nature to decide whether sex is going to happen or not. As a man, you can only influence that decision but you can't actually make it. So what happens is that the woman decides that she wants to have sex with you and doesn't actually say anything. You're sitting there, talking to he… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Follow-up on a Girl telling She's Got a BFI think your initial issue was that you asked her out before she felt "ready" and hence they throw up these excuses. I have a BF being a really common one that girls use when they're not feeling anything around you and you just go for the close. Women's emotions change on a whim and as long as you can get her mind thinking along the lines you want her to without forcing her, you can change her initial opinion of you though. Just say "hey, I just had an intuition... Have you ever met a guy that y… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 04:39 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]What you can get a woman to think as her own idea will not be resisted by her, and will be accepted. Some homework: You need to figure out what mental states you want the woman you are to be in (shouldn't be hard), and then describe the process of what happens when people fall into these mental states, in explicit detail. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Follow-up on a Girl telling She's Got a BFWomen ALWAYS have some guy hanging around her - boyfriend or not.If you wait for the so-called boyfriend to disappear before having a go, you'd be waiting forever. Now... while you might respect that she has a boyfriend, is that guy just the first one she could get, or the best one there is, and how would she know unless she's dated everybody? You need to reframe the situation in your head that she hasn't met you, so she has no idea how good it could be. You're doing her a favour by stepping to … | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:43 AM |
| 1 | How to get laid in high school?You can approach women wherever and whenever you want. What's with all these excuses? Don't give her reasons to not meet you. Let her decide that for herself AFTER you've gone up to talk to her. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 0 | I realized I don't want a relationshipAlways be open to a relationship - and tell women that - but what you don't tell them is that the relationship is going to be on your terms. That is, you just want them over for sex, and then for them to go home so you can go meet the next woman or get some work done or work on some other passion project of yours. This at least sets you up to spin plates (having multiple girlfriends, with them occasionally falling off to go get married, find other guys, etc) Otherwise you just focus on turning t… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:38 AM |
| 2 | She doesn’t believe in loveThere are a number of pathways into a woman's sexual fantasies.One way is through having emotional connections - but as you've found with this girl - she doesn't have that. So clearly, this is not the way to tap into her. Some women dislike emotional connections, but have a preference for powerful body feelings. You get her to describe powerful body sensations that she gets when she is turned on (butterflies in stomach, blood rushing, warmth, gentle touch, etc). This is more likely to be the cas… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:29 AM |
| 0 | Do women rationalize romantic feelings differently than men do?You have to use your conversational skills to lead them into feeling the things that they want to feel when they know that they are with a guy that they really want to have sex with. That's it in a nutshell. If you don't structure your conversation to do these things, and get wildly off-track talking about factual things and other BS that doesn't lead in that direction - she will get bored. You basically need to use your time together to go on a mental exploration around her feelings and emotion… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Talking through text ruins any chances I have almost all of the time and it never seems to get better:At some point you have to get off text, and if she's not going to get off text and into real life, then you have to stop texting, forget her, and move on. It's the only way. You can also try and improve your text game. If you're boring in real life you might be boring over text. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:20 AM |
| 36 | How do I fight the overwhelming urge to reply to texts immediately?It's all in your head. If a woman is into you, it doesn't matter how long you wait - or not. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 01:06 AM |
| 6 | Tried to go out alone at a BarClubs are one-night-stand only environments where you need to take them home THAT NIGHT or nothing is going to happen. Getting numbers is a waste of time. What happens in vegas, stays in vegas. etc. Many women go to clubs as a live-version of instagram. They're just there to look hot and have men drooling - and then they take that validation and go home with their girlfriends. We've all heard this bullshit: "Just because I'm dressed in a skimpy outfit doesn't mean men should think I'm OK to hit … | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You can be a good pick up artist with no job, a terrible social life, and anxiety - if you want to. You just have to say and do the right things and you'll still pull women. Most of the things you think that attract women are not true. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:46 AM |
| -2 | girls want to be desired, not neededOf course women want to be desired. All instagram models want that. The trick is leading them into the bedroom though. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:44 AM |
| 28 | [deleted by user]The funny thing is that the human mind doesn't comprehend negatives. I had one girl say "We're not going to have sex" when I invited her over - just out of the blue.I just replied "Well I didn't necessarily invite you over for that, but we can do it if you want!"Sadly this just made her really angry. Every time she denied wanting to have sex, I kept saying that since she was the one to bring it up, it's actually what she wanted all along. This just made her turn seriously angry though, and I had… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:39 AM |
| 2 | girls want to be desired, not neededThey do go all out with fashion and make-up though. Some even go as far as plastic surgery. You have to respect that some women really try in this department. That said, most men are happy with a willing vagina - regardless of what woman it's attached to in most cases (unless the woman is utterly hideous, inside and out). | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Something I do not understandPretty much. I think you'll find it annoying when women demand a "serious relationship" before having sex - so you shouldn't do the same thing to them either. All you need to say is that "sex is important to me" and that you don't want to be stuck in a relationship if the sex is terrible, and she'd hate it as well! Then you just tell her to get into bed so you can both find out. | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Coping with rejectionConfidence comes from (a) knowing what to do and (b) lots of practice.Like most things in life, you never fail until you quit. Everything is a learning experience - but why not just skip years and years of self-discovery by getting to the good bits? RJs work is all in video seminars and PDFs off the speed seduction website.I know this sounds like an infomercial, but it's not. Most seduction gurus have fallen away these days - and I pretty much tried them all - but RJs was hands-down the most use… | /r/seduction | 18/07/22 12:10 AM |
| 7 | Coping with rejectionOnline dating is a one-night-stand world, and if you're having second dates before having sex - you are going to fail. You need to push for it after date 1, and set yourself up so that can happen easily. Failing that, you let them contact you afterwards if they want anything. It's pretty hard to love someone else when you don't love yourself. Usually the hard truth is that you need to stick up for what you want, and demand how you want to be treated - not from women, but yourself - and you're pr… | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Is it important for you to look for signs that she likes you before making a move?Women generally don't put themselves into situations where sex can easily happen alone with another man. Usually when you get a girl back to your place - alone - that's a pretty good time to make a move. Of course, you'll want to create some buildup so it's not totally awkward when you do, although it can risk becoming like that depending on the woman. The next bit involves not caring too much if they like what you're doing on not, or if you even stay friends afterwards. A breathlessly turned-on… | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Something I do not understandThe truth is.... who knows how it's going to pan out? She might blow your mind and you may decide to get married and have children with her. How do you know UNTIL YOU'VE HAD SEX? (wink wink). Take that mystery away, and sex ceases to be fun for women. They want to see if they can break you, so you leave the door open. Don't slam it shut on them. More importantly - this is online. Typically online is used by women for casual hookups and nothing more. Everyone knows this. No need to spell it out. … | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 07:15 AM |
| 2 | How to break out of small talk?Jesus, I don't want to fight you on it. Just asking for more information and you go get all triggered. | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 07:11 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Oh dear. Women are using you for sex. Cry me a river :) Also, it's online dating. The modus operandi for online dating is ONS. But seriously - this is a good problem to have. Women do enjoy casual sex. Reason is that once you've spunked your load, then repeated sexual encounters basically mean nothing. She's supposedly pregnant at this time (human body doesn't recognise contraception), and then goes off to find a provider. That's where she does you a favour and lets you go off to find other wome… | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 05:47 AM |
| 2 | LOOKS DON'T Really Matter (Social skills above all)In my experience, confidence comes from KNOWING what to do and then EXECUTING. With a plan, you have confidence because you're not second guessing what to do next. You know what the rational thing to do is, and you ignore your emotions and just get it done. Otherwise you're doing what? Procrastinating! ... and that only happens out of fear of the unknown. Replace the unknown with KNOWN and TESTED, and watch how confident you can get. | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 03:46 AM |
| 5 | TattoosI think originally tattoos became a talking point, but then everyone got one, so it's really passe right now. Personally I think it's just dumb. They're expensive and they don't come off, and if you're only doing it to attract women -- well that's lame. Probably we'll look back at photos of tattooed people in 40 years time and it will look as stupid as bell-bottom flares and platform shoes do now. Again, peacocking gimmicks just give you an opening. You still have to have game to close. You can … | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 03:37 AM |
| 5 | Is the PUA community basically dead?Pick Up Artist | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 03:25 AM |
| 2 | How to break out of small talk?I guess I'm not being clear. Are you having sex or not? Answer the question. | /r/seduction | 14/07/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | How to break out of small talk?I don't think it's so general that friendship = sex. It sometimes might, but I can count numerous examples where female friends made zero effort whatsoever to help things go in a sexual direction UNLESS I forced the issue. In my experience it's more often than not that girls just throw you in the friend category and nothing sexual happens. | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 07:37 AM |
| 1 | How to break out of small talk?A "relationship" by her definition of you being friends - but how about sex? | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 04:33 AM |
| 17 | [deleted by user]Your aim with texting is to GET THEM OFF THE DAMN PHONE. You don't text forever, good god. Go meet somewhere (bar or coffee shop near your bachelor pad), and then take them home. If you're not doing that, they quite rightly get bored. And if she refuses to come out to see you - guess what? - you're simping if you keep texting! | /r/seduction | 13/07/22 04:22 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]So have I... but then there are these women who expect that a repeat performance needs to be somehow "paid" with a relationship. A bit like trying to addict you to drugs. The first hit is free. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 11:15 PM |
| 5 | Fastest way to get laid in 2022 according to you guys (My post deleted itself so here's the compilation)This is your club game summary. I don't agree with everything... but club game is One night stand game. You are the female plaything for the night, and the next day they're gone. Accept it. That means no numbers, details, anything afterwards. As stated, it is mostly a body language observation and touch-based game. You are there to find women who are there to find a sex partner. You are NOT there to waste money drinking, dancing, or throwing your attention away on the girls who are only there to… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 07:44 AM |
| 0 | Fastest way to get laid in 2022 according to you guys (My post deleted itself so here's the compilation)haha, that gave me a laugh :) | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 07:39 AM |
| 2 | When to share authentic traumaWhen you're trying to seduce someone - discretion is the better part of valor. You're not trying to be real with her. You're only trying to convey a sense of intrigue and fascination and sexual desire. Why would you ever talk about something that's likely to simply to bring the mood down? Once you've had sex with a woman, you'll find they're generally forgiving of who you are - if you've rocked their world. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:49 AM |
| 11 | [deleted by user]You're only a "womanizer" if you're sleeping around. By the sound of it you're just hitting on girls and getting nowhere - or bored. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:46 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I'd probably treat these women much like strippers. You can't connect with them emotionally - in the romantic sense - because they're incapable of that. Their chosen profession has them using that power to make money - so that's kind of a lost cause. Additionally any partner they did have would have to be accepting of her flaunting her body off to other men all the time. Not exactly LTR material, but who cares about that right? Possibly they're addicted to action and excitement - like the next s… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Practice, practice and practice. Although it attracts jeers for turning people into "social robots", having an idea of what you're going to talk about BEFORE you get into conversations is pretty critical to make the most of your approaches. Hey, if it's good enough for martial arts to have you rote learn kata and patterns so that you don't have to think when you are physically attacked, it's good enough to do this verbally so you know what to say without having to think about it much. Same deal … | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 05:31 AM |
| 3 | Tips for sealing the dealYou were in bed together and you did nothing. That explains the ghosting. Sexual consent is a funny thing. A woman may have already made up in her mind that she wants to have sex with you - but then she doesn't say! - and then you're still sitting there and running your mouth and flapping your arms and trying to turn her on! In many cases, if you are alone with a woman at her place or yours - then assume consent until she either says "NO" to sex angrily, starts crying, demands to go home, or sta… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 02:09 AM |
| 2 | How do I make my boyfriend more sexually interested in me?Men in general are interested in sexual variety. It's unusual for a man to only be attracted to one woman because men are not mentally built that way. I think women wish that it's the case, but it really isn't. We can be financially and emotionally invested in family - no doubt - but sexually it's a different ball game. Instincts tell us that once we've done getting a woman pregnant, it's time to move onto the next one. We start checking out other women. For men, sex has no emotional bonding con… | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:49 AM |
| 1 | If a date with a girl is not for another week, should I text to keep attraction?I'm married to one. Trust me. I know. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:39 AM |
| 3 | The more ambivalent I am towards women, the better I do.Women want a man who can selfishly look after himself, because it's a quality and trait that women already employ themselves. Sacrificing yourself and causing yourself to suffer for delayed gratification comes off as stupidity by women. They just see an idiot hurting himself and making life hard rather than someone really enjoying themselves. As the joke goes: Women don't see the work you put in. They only wait by the finish-line to fuck the winners. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:31 AM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]They can enjoy it alright, but they can't *just* enjoy it if they have an agenda sadly. I've had sexual encounters immediately stop when the girl figured out that I had no intention of moving things in a marriage-minded direction. That signals to me that some women treat sex as a doling out of favours rather than a thing to be enjoyed in and of itself. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | If a date with a girl is not for another week, should I text to keep attraction?Wow, I really nailed that answer correctly, hey? I know it's true. I'm married and live with my wife! But I knew this before I got married anyway. It's "secret women's business" which is why it was voted down. Women hide their ovulation status for obvious reasons. Plus if every man thought like I did, they'd be unable to retain simps. Doesn't matter. People can trawl my posting history if they want and still find the truth. | /r/seduction | 12/07/22 01:16 AM |
| -6 | If a date with a girl is not for another week, should I text to keep attraction?The longest you should ever tolerate is one month. if her attention hasn't already swayed earlier, then by a month she's ovulated and gone to seek out her boyfriend, or sex, from someone. Or she's just ignoring her natural desire for sex. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 08:48 AM |
| 2 | Some lessons from my fuck upYes, it's all about having a "strong frame" If you don't set it and communicate to her with your body language and behaviour that you are a boyfriend - then she may set the frame, and it will be whatever she sets it as - typically not to your liking. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 08:47 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]These girls are at the top of their game though. The game for these women is simply an attempt to win as many hearts as possible (i.e. keep a simp collection) Would they be better at it if they were actually nice people? Probably.... It's women like these that can be timewasters and traps for the aspiring player. There's something called "pickup bait and switch" in the club. You meet a hot sexy girl in the club, and when you get her home she turns into a good girl. Or you meet a good girl in the… | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Do people cuddle after the first time they have sex?It's just like taking a dump for some women. It's a bodily urge that messy, dirty, disgusting, and nobody really likes to talk about it. ...but gee the relief feels damn good. | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 08:36 AM |
| 1 | An overlooked dark side of learning about pickup?I can relate to this. Having been through this stage. It's when you get older and closer to middle age you start realizing that the most important thing you have in life is TIME. No matter how you use it, or waste it, you can't get any more back. Here's the thing though... your brain is telling you the right things. There's be plenty of time to chill out when you're old, and recall memories of how you did this or that with some woman. Don't have regrets Don't waste the time you have. Get out the… | /r/seduction | 10/07/22 08:21 AM |
| 3 | How do you guys tease women without it coming off as a straight insult?I don't think it's appropriate to begin teasing women until you have some level of rapport. Once she gets the idea that she's comfortable with you can you really begin teasing. At that point you're also wandering into sex talk as well, so it goes hand in hand. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 06:02 AM |
| 1 | More like hanging out with friend than a date...You can say that you like them as a person, but the lack of affection you get from them is just hurting you inside and that you don't think you should see them anymore. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesSo a man by himself is dangerous, but a group of men - all tripping over their dicks in a wolfpack - is somehow less dangerous? The issue guys have is credibility. Where he fits into the picture. What is he doing and why is he doing it in context of where you are. Guys want to avoid being labelled as a "random" | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesDon't give compliments. Just say that you felt like coming over, because ... well you're not really sure. A voice in your head told you to. Does she believe in destiny? | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Stats on 40 Cold ApproachesUltimately you will treat her like a human - but when game forces you to run through so many numbers AND you want to avoid the trap of falling into Oneitis - then you HAVE to treat women as expendable - initially. I know that sounds totally wrong - but you HAVE to do it. That way, you can open up and begin treating women properly who are RECEPTIVE and forget about the ones who aren't. So many guys waste their time and energy throwing their value at women who don't deserve it. The only way to sto… | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 04:03 AM |
| 1 | old man who has never been with a girl?Seems like you have no idea what you are doing. Neither did anyone starting out though. I would first reach out to Ross Jeffries and get his material. He is expert at getting old and busted men and turning them completely around. You don't have to accept being alone. There is a way out. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 01:17 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]All the good stuff was in the early 2000s before online dating seemed to be the be-all-end-all You still need game when meeting women in person. That never changes. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 01:13 AM |
| 3 | I think I'm really starting to embody and understand... the whole process of seduction and 'game' is a game of EMOTIONS. Sparking emotion, piquing emotion, maintaining emotion... even after you have had sex, you are maintaining those emotions.You need to escalate trust, comfort, and a sense of feeling connected before you go headlong into the sex. You can only really go heavy into sex talk when there's enough rapport to talk about it. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 2 | More like hanging out with friend than a date...I can't guarantee it will get you anywhere with them. They've probably already decided on how you fit into their life, so breaking their impressions suddenly will come as a shock. It will free you from the friendzone though. In many cases you're just better off meeting new women. | /r/seduction | 07/07/22 01:07 AM |
| 2 | More like hanging out with friend than a date...YES! They will do this. They will distract you from your goal by trying to throw you off. It's called "last minute resistance". It exists to ensure that you're going to be a safe partner that is going to be OK with eventual rejection when she's finished with you later. You will find this a lot as you encounter a girl's barriers to sex. Things will get awkward very quickly. If you can plow your way through it and she's not crying, or asking to leave and go home - then do so! In most cases, just s… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 05:49 AM |
| 12 | More like hanging out with friend than a date...I know a few short guys, and yes, they have no problem getting *dates* but zero action. Why? Because those guys are considered "safe" by those women. They don't expect anything's going to get sexual, and that permeates the entire "date". They just end up getting used as emotional tampons. If you're in East Asia, I'm going to assume that you're anywhere north of Thailand and beyond.Chinese/Korean/Japanese women are pretty good at pretending that they've got no interest in sex, and of course, wome… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 05:45 AM |
| 3 | Pick Up is a heartless game.That there is why it's called game. You are literally trying to game the system THAT EXPECTS YOU TO FAIL. If you want to talk about heartless, we can talk about how women are also incapable of loving a man in the way he wants to be loved. Learn to face reality, not shy away from it, and push on ever forward. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 04:06 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Got to be careful saying that you need to be an "asshole" to women. People may assume that you mean that you're deliberately being rude to them and I wouldn't recommend that. If you come off as a one track minded guy - on the other hand - who doesn't care about the outcome - this is perhaps a better definition. You show in your actions that you are deliberately going push back on the prevailing social "wisdom" of being a "nice guy" by instead showing her that you'd fuck her and all her friends a… | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | How much did working out increase your attention with women?Women do look at you differently if you are buff. Not going to lie. It should take about 6 months of daily 2 hours weights and cardio. Should be enough to get some marked improvements. That said, it's not a panacea. It gets your foot in the door, but you still need to have game. | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 02:02 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]I find American's proclivity for sex pretty high and yes, they do like accents. :) | /r/seduction | 06/07/22 01:59 AM |
| 2 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !All girls put up a wall that they want to have scaled, and the height of that wall is in proportion to how much she doesn't like you. I consider getting them alone in my apartment equivalent to consent. Women don't put themselves in that position unless they want sex to happen.You then have to push as far as you can. I've even had one girl get upset and go home after I got her panties off - but then called me up, came back over another day, and we went at it. Other girls say "no" while they're m… | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 11:36 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]What do you mean by "never leads to anything"? Where are the brakes being put on and how are you handling that? | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Yeah this is just attention-whoring. Don't reply "tfti", reply "come over and suck my dick" Watch how she turns into a shrinking violet, disappears, and leaves you alone. Nothing's ever going to happen. May as well push things to the limit | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 11:27 PM |
| 10 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !In so far as girls and attitudes towards sex are concerned, I'd group them into SE asian, NE asian, Indian subcontinent, and Middle Eastern. All four groups are incredibly different. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 05:45 AM |
| 6 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !The higher-class ones are perhaps closer to North-Asians in attitude. Probably have lighter skin-tone as well. There is racism towards dark skinned people in SE Asia. The prevailing instinct being that if you're black - you must be a farmer working in the sun, and therefore poor. Whereas white people don't need to go outside and work - therefore rich. This is why you have attitudes like "once you go black, you don't go back" as the darker they are, the more likely they are to have sex in order t… | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !Korea has a very dismal birth rate, so it's not just you. The culture makes it hard, but if you're not OF that culture, you can step outside of it and do whatever you want. Korean (and by extension Chinese and Japanese to a lesser extent) need a strong lead to take them somewhere and push back against their fear and resistance. They want a man to tell them what to do, and then to make it all happen while they lie back and enjoy it with their eyes closed, moaning like cats. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do women say one thing but do the opposite?You CAN understand women. It's this illusion that they are mysterious and beyond comprehension that they beat over on your head to prevent you from discovering the truth. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:16 AM |
| 3 | Why do women say one thing but do the opposite?The reasons are well known in the community for female duplicitous behaviour. They want to find an alpha male to get them pregnant, and then find a provider who is cuckolded to look after his kids and financially support her. Rarely do women find that in the same man, which is why they behave one way for the men that they have sex with, and then spread all these lies about how to attract women to men that they don't care about. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:13 AM |
| 4 | Why do women say one thing but do the opposite?Solid advice. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:11 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I've said it on another thread. The whole "not caring/not trying" argument comes up from time to time. It's about as useful as Mick Jagger coming in here and saying "I've never had problems with women!".... and yeah, he's right, because he's Mick f**king Jagger! How is that of any help to people who aren't? The thing that you don't care about is being rejected, or taking women too seriously. You laugh it off and enjoy their righteous indignation - because if they had better things (and better me… | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 04:02 AM |
| 11 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !Trust me. I'm well versed in this department. Lots of "good girls" come across as close-minded, but that's just to keep lesser-men away. I've had a number of so-called "good girls" turn downright naughty. They're just waiting for the right man to show up. Besides, how do all the good girls end up married? What's their secret? lol | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?So what do you like about guys who piss you off so much that you have to waste time on insulting them online, rather than spending it with your stupid simps and relationship :D haha No seriously. Fuck off. This was educational for me. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?Wow, you must be fun at parties :D You're a classic narcissist. Unable to see how your foul mouth and temper results in the treatment you get from men. My turn now: Fuck off | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 02:12 AM |
| 19 | Not getting laid? Go travelling !Absolutely this. SE Asian girls treat having sex like shaking hands.Just be careful around the majority muslim areas. The women (and men) are a touch crazy there when dealing in sexual matters. Sure there's fun to be had but discretion is essential because there may even be legal consequences. North Asia is much harder (and more expensive) by comparison. Chinese/Korean/Japanese girls need a really strong lead. They don't just throw themselves at you (well sometimes they do, but it's rare). You n… | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?There's that irritating personality issue I mentioned. I mean, I've met many women who are borderline and have mental issues too. Wouldn't go near them with a 10 foot pole. Narcissists are the worst because they are "never wrong". They don't even realize how off base they are because their narcissism never lets them confront that reality. Anyway, just because you don't go into heat doesn't mean other women don't. It's called ovulation. Look it up. Maybe your ovaries are broken and don't work - m… | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?Well if you have no genitals, that would explain why you don't go into heat. Absolutely not all women are the same. Some have no sex drive, or one that only activates 12 days in a year. Seriously complicates their ability to find male partners. Irritating personality not withstanding. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?You clearly aren't a woman. | /r/seduction | 05/07/22 12:15 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of the numbers rating system for attractiveness?I think rating systems are pretty stupid. For men, it's mostly a binary system. (A) Would have sex with versus (B) Would not have sex with. Most women fall into the (A) category unless they're extremely ugly and/or have nasty/crazy personalities. | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 07:34 AM |
| 2 | Online dating openers. What works for you?Maybe it's hopeless, but I give every situation a "Hail Mary" because it's certainly a lot better than sitting around scratching your balls wondering "what if?" | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 04:53 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they don't like players yet they feel attracted to guys with options and a lot of experience in bed?Really depends where a woman is in her life. She's attracted to guys with lots of notches when she's in heat.When she's not in heat, then she seeks out men with more beta "provider" characteristics....and that's particularly the case if she's got a guy in the background she goes to for sex while meeting you. But the "too bad you're a player" rejection is her just trying to save some face in light of the fact that she probably just got done by one before you ran into her. A good response is "So w… | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 04:52 AM |
| 10 | I'm married now, but I used to have a closing date of about 50%. Here's How.He's correct, but there's some deleted info: "The less you care *about the consequences of making moves on her*, the more it will happen" If you didn't care, you wouldn't approach. You wouldn't lead her to sex. Nothing will happen unless the woman decides to rape you (pretty rare) But if you don't care if you get rejected or not - from anywhere from the approach to the bedroom - you'll pass most of the shit tests. She'll consider you more or less "safe" and then sex can happen. | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Little newbie stepsThe opening is actually a test of the woman to see where her head is at. If she thinks that's obnoxious - it says more about her than it does about you. I would move on, but sometime rejections are shit tests. Pick-up is more about excavating gold nuggets. Not polishing turds into diamonds. | /r/seduction | 04/07/22 12:42 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]I think you know what I meant. Nothing to stop you trolling the place when you don't even go there, but by that point you're either unemployed and probably supposed to be working elsewhere due to other commitments. | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Yeah, meeting women gets MUCH harder once you're out of college/university If you're in college/uni - enjoy it while it lasts! | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 07:50 AM |
| 4 | Online dating openers. What works for you?The only thing you can do about types is reframe it so she now has an opportunity to try something outside of her normal realm of experience, and to go exploring into a lush new world of new sensations she may not originally considered before. :) | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Little newbie stepsBe a little bit wary of using direct compliments with women. Especially in the western world where women want to be appreciated for who they are and not what they look like. In different countries you can be fairly blatant about giving body and appearance compliments and get positive responses - but in the west it's better to play it safe and not use them. Instead, lean on indirect compliments, and be more serendipitous. I.e. You don't know what made you come over and you have no idea. Is it fat… | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Did having your own place make you approach women more?That's a massive handicap. It's the reason why most people move out of home when they go to university, because still living with parents handicaps your sex life. your only option is to plead with a woman whose got her own place to come over. In fact, if you don't have your own place, if you get enough girlfriends with their own place, you can effectively move out and move between girlfriends' homes! I knew a guy who did this for a few years! | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 01:43 AM |
| 5 | Did having your own place make you approach women more?In many ways, a guy having his own crib is pretty much mandatory for being able to have a rotational sex life with girls coming over, staying, and then leaving. The only thing better than having your own place is having enough money to move around from hotel to hotel - which has the added flexibility of throwing women off your trail when the situation requires it. If you have no money and you're forced to live with your parents or some other terrible living arrangement, the third option is to ha… | /r/seduction | 01/07/22 01:41 AM |
| 4 | Too white for black women and too white for everyone else?Don't default to suspecting racism when it may not be the case. Either way, even if you're in the minority and treated poorly - you are the forbidden fruit to a niche of women. That is something that you need to exploit. | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 11:35 PM |
| 1 | You won’t get her by needing herThat's never been my experience of dating thousands of women | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Just got rejected for being 'incredible'Any time a woman "rejects" you she is telling you that she's not "feeling it"Whatever. Women change how they feel about things all the time. How she feels about you initially isn't how you might get her to feel around you later. You can make multiple attempts at getting her to feel *something* by reframing. Since you're going on the way out, it's usually worth a shot. I'm a big fan of "hail marys" since there's nothing to lose at these points. Your rejection seems like it's a "not my type" excus… | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 06:50 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]I've met uber-chad alpha-male rugby players who have seen be rejected by women right off the bat! It happens. I've seen it. When they say that they don't have problems, it's possibly because they're not holding their ability to meet women to a high standard - as in, they're not making a deliberate effort to have sex with as many women as possible. So from their point of view - one or a few good woman was enough and they didn't have any problems there. Therefore, they've never really had problems… | /r/seduction | 30/06/22 03:03 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Umm. Actually it is when you have trained patterns of thought in your head that happen subconsciously to sabotage yourself. You need hypnosis and other work to get past some of that and change your pattern of thinking. A good read is "The power of your subconscious mind" by Dr. Joseph Murphy.You can probably find the PDF online somewhere. It will help you understand what's going on in your head and help you retrain yourself to have more positive thoughts. In any case, it's really a foundational … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 05:15 AM |
| 12 | Is cold approach really the best way for most guys to meet women? It feels like a lot of the conventional advice on here doesn't really apply to meRastafarian smoke da ganja an ting mon. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Esoteric question to seasoned "pimps"Maybe they're all ovulating at the same time? I dunno, but after a while I think we tend to either delude ourselves - or get into some kind of zone when juggling multiple girls. I paid it no mind. I can't say I experienced what you did. I experienced sex turning into something more akin to just jerking off with different women's bodies after a while. So many girls going through my bedroom. Weird, huh? | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 04:11 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]It means that you failed to attract her over the course of the date. What you say on first dates is pretty damn critical if you are ever to get her pants off.You see - what you talk about on the first date really does set the tone. It's a sales-pitch! You are selling and she is BUYING. If you waffle on about bullshit unrelated to things that she might feel when she's with a guy who she really wants to bang - then you will just turn her off - or just fail to turn her on. If you're trying to sell … | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:25 AM |
| 5 | Esoteric question to seasoned "pimps"Well, if you're spinning plates with enough girls, you'll probably get a sex hat-trick in one day at least a few times. You might also end up in a situation where you meet two girls you've already had sex with at the same time, but neither of them know that between each other. That's just from the statistical chance, and nothing to do with anything esoteric or supernatural. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 03:21 AM |
| 30 | [deleted by user]Stop giving women reasons to not have sex with you.Secondly, stop self deprecating yourself. If you give them reasons BEFORE you've even approached them, you've shot yourself in the foot. Push things with them as far as they will go and let her decide if she wants to have sex with you or not. You might be pleasantly surprised. If you're suffering from anxiety though, you probably need professional help with that. | /r/seduction | 29/06/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | When girls call you out on negging. What to say?The negging thing. I generally don't do it. Most guys get the idea and think it means to insult the woman - and that's the furthest thing from the truth. A neg is when you say something in a way that you're genuinely trying to help - but it immediately distracts her in whatever topic of conversation you're on and pulls her attention elsewhere. For example, she's getting all sassy with you - so you might point out to her that her drink is about to fall off the table and you just don't want it to … | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 11:53 PM |
| 2 | If you're a virgin, how do you juggle between the idea of just wanting "casual" sex (I.e. go from a first or second date right back to your place) with something more gradual?You're not providing nuance. You're just a troll. You clearly hate "terrible incel shit" and don't want them to succeed. You make no arguments to define what "purify people" means or what "legitimate questions" are and who should be allowed to make them. You're just saying vague rubbish. And if my advice is toxic, please tell that to my wife and son. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 11:44 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]But it's not illegal, so shut up. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 11:39 PM |
| 10 | [deleted by user]And that's perfectly normal unless you're a robot | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 12:29 PM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]I'm sorry, but you're going to have to risk ruining the friendship. Once you start turning sexual, there is a possibility that this will make her feel unsafe around you. You can tell her that the reason you are friends is because you like her for who she is and you wouldn't change that for the world, and that's primarily the reason why sex with her would make that even better... BUT you aren't in a rush and she can think about it in her own time while you leave it with her. You should only say t… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 12:24 PM |
| 5 | If you're a virgin, how do you juggle between the idea of just wanting "casual" sex (I.e. go from a first or second date right back to your place) with something more gradual?You're right. Your advice is terrible. It is "just be yourself" useless advice. Typically it's written by pathetic women who feel threatened that men should have any control over their romantic lives. Why bother coming to a seduction subreddit to say "sex isn't all that important"? Sex is the only thing that gives men emotional satisfaction in relationships with women. Seriously - you are an idiot. For people to grow, they have to embrace change. Maybe he'll get to that point later in his life w… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Dating is a lot like pokerThe Kenny Rogers version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvjdxnaHPfk The Supertramp version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJwJ\_A\_SWBs | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 06:01 AM |
| 4 | If you're a virgin, how do you juggle between the idea of just wanting "casual" sex (I.e. go from a first or second date right back to your place) with something more gradual?There are two iron clad rules around this: The longer you wait for sex, the less likely it is to ever happen If you suspect a woman is making you wait for sex, the sex is never worth the wait Your aim should be to get to sex as fast as possible with minimum investment.Why? This is what women do with alpha males, or lesser men who have mastered game. You want a woman to really have genuine desire for you. If she doesn't have any desire she'll just treat you as a friend and add you to the collecti… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | I have a naturally self-deprecative nature that I think is unappealing to women.Don't self deprecate. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vblot9RiULI | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 05:15 AM |
| 2 | What backlash should I expect because of my relationship? 26-year-old male dating 19-year-old female.LOL. There is a 7 year age difference between myself and my wife too.I'm trying to insinuate "Screw what other people think", which is the best way to go through life - where it doesn't depend on other people's cooperation (otherwise you're forced to be tactful) Having a life that is independent is the way to go. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 05:13 AM |
| 1 | With the recent ruling on abortion. How does this affect seduction?I've avoided wading into this debate, but if women want total control of their bodies then they need society to treat them as ADULTS with FULL responsibility for what they do. NOT as helpless children in constant need of saving - which is how western society treats them currently. If women are to be adults and 100% control of their bodies, this also means that - as a man - I am not responsible for ANY child support of ANY children - be that personally or through personal taxation and welfare pay… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Is she interested still?Random ads on social media are most likely scams. Assuming she's real : If she's interested, she'll come over if you booty call her. I'm serious. Call that shit out. Social media following and adding means nothing. Many women use it to get male attention - which is the currency of the female kingdom. If she's not giving you any attention in a way that's meaningful to you (see above), then she's not interested. She's just being an attention-whore, and you be simpin' if you keep giving it to her w… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 02:29 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Cheesy pickup lines can be used as a gag. You use them knowing full well that they're stupid, but then excuse yourself and say that you were willing to make an idiot out of yourself just so you could meet her. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Constant rejection is a sign of bad demographicsIn some way, as a minority in any country, you have to play to your strengths and provide something that few can offer, that a particular niche is searching for. I've been in that position, and either you can let the fact that the majority of people are racist eat you up, or you can focus on the positives and what you have to offer your niche that the majority does not. It's a deep topic, but no matter who you are, you have to hustle and whore yourself out in life. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 02:02 AM |
| 1 | Constant rejection is a sign of bad demographicsThis is sort of a discussion about credibility. You need some credible backstory when meeting a woman so she doesn't think of you as just someone who is "creepy" or "random". You will also get the same effect when travelling to a different country and how the women there respond to you. Look up the "Charisma Man" comics to see what I mean by that. | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 01:56 AM |
| -8 | [deleted by user]Are you having sex on the first date? To explain what's going on, I would need to know this. Either way, second dates flag to women that you have put your hand up to be either:(A) LTR - if you had sex(B) Provider - if you haven't(C) Friend - which sucks any way you want to look at it I am always suspicious of second dates. Usually I just don't do them for those reasons. If she's not attracted to me by the first date, she's probably not really into me.If I don't get laid on the first date, she go… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 01:47 AM |
| 1 | What backlash should I expect because of my relationship? 26-year-old male dating 19-year-old female.Upsetting others morals *may* lose you friends... maybe...Breaking the law will get you in either fined or jail. When it comes to seduction, you need to lean more heavily on doing whatever you are legally able to get away with - because law is OBJECTIVE and ENFORCEABLE.Morals, ethics, are completely SUBJECTIVE and UNENFORCABLE. I make this distinction because occasionally we get the "Is it moral that I do this?" in regards to picking up women to have sex with them. TALK TO A LAWYER. You are free… | /r/seduction | 28/06/22 01:38 AM |
| 27 | What backlash should I expect because of my relationship? 26-year-old male dating 19-year-old female.Probably a relationship and not a seduction question. Anytime someone asks a morality question, my answer is: "Is what you are doing legal?" If it is, then carry on... | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 11:31 PM |
| 3 | Talk less have more successYep. That's right. If she's into you, you learn very quickly. What happens then is you start expecting it from other women and then all of a sudden, you're coming off as a guy who has high standards - which makes you more attractive, and more likely that women will say yes than no. Keep going. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 06:38 AM |
| 5 | Starting from zero at 30 years old: how do you make the most of night game solo?Going to clubs in your thirties is a bit different, especially if you are somewhat red-pilled. Girls treat clubs like a live-version of instagram. Dressing up to look hot to see how many likes they get in order to be attention-whores. Club game is all about finding girls in the club who are DTF and taking them home that very night - like your old guy friend. Also be mindful that some of the horniest girls are not the ones dressed like hotties. The ones who are feminine but mostly modest usually … | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 03:34 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Your aim is to walk them through the processes and feelings of having met a guy that they find so irresistible that they have to go home with him. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 02:45 AM |
| 1 | How the hell do I closeThat's very quotable. | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:58 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Flakes boil down to one or more of the following: You not attracting her in the first place. The woman has no sex drive, or one that can only be triggered one day a month meaning that she's only sexually available 12 days of the year. The woman has a sex drive but she's suffering PMS - and she's not about to tell you this. The woman has a sex drive but is hooking up with some other guy currently The way you structured the meet up made it feel like a date and hence she backed out. She's a complet… | /r/seduction | 27/06/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | We’re All Going to Fucking Make It BraThat's the thing about vague language - you have to hallucinate whatever you think you it meant. People will end up with different interpretations as you are proving. | /r/seduction | 26/06/22 11:36 PM |
| 14 | We’re All Going to Fucking Make It BraThe only green I see is in the joint you are smoking. But seriously. Your post consists of English language that sounds grammatically correct but is so vague that it means absolutely nothing. | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 05:58 AM |
| 6 | What are some things you guys do on first dates to make sure the woman knows this is not about friendship?Don't let women set the frame. You know you want to bang her. She knows you want to bang her... and yet she carries on like you're just buddies? Women aren't confused. They're just doing what they've always done. Many guys have kissed her butt for so long... so now's your turn!! ...Unless you do something to stop that of course. What you should be doing is putting your arm out for her to hold (and then guiding her to do it if she isn't forthcoming), and then tell her to kiss you and point to you… | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 05:40 AM |
| 2 | What are some things you guys do on first dates to make sure the woman knows this is not about friendship?Ever watched a movie with talented actors and enjoyed it anyway? Even though you knew it was all fiction? | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 05:37 AM |
| -1 | [deleted by user]The longer it takes you to get to sex, the less likely it is to even happen at all. Ideally you have one date and either she sleeps with you immediately afterwards, or she calls you up so she can come over and do that in a few days time. The problem you have with letting things extend to a second-date scenario is either one of two things: 1) You didn't attract her on the first date. What makes you think you can do it on a second? 2) If she's deliberately trying to slow things down, it is her way… | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 03:40 AM |
| -1 | How do I seduce him?What most of the guys here are failing to understand is that women are ALWAYS attracted to men who are ALREADY TAKEN. (Social proof, pre-selection, etc) So for her to leave this guy alone is probably not really going to work, and from her point of view, being able to find better and hotter men isn't going to work either because women's sex drive tends to focus on THE ONE and not on random hookups like a man's does. This is why I don't envy women at all, because while they can easily get sex - ge… | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Wrong sub, but here are the takeaways: Why are you in this relationship? Repeated access to sex? If so - STOP. This never ends well. There are more and better women out there. Stop wasting your limited time on the planet and go find them. Don't put up with nonsense from women. Ideally in any relationship, arguments SHOULD be next to non-existent. That is what is NORMAL. Anytime you have a constant stream of arguments with your partner, it's time to find a new one - and for god sake don't marry t… | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 03:03 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]In many cases it's really all about telling the woman that "Sex doesn't get you a relationship" in not as so many words. There are a lot of women who thinks that sleeping with you entitles them to one and it's just not the case. | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 02:27 AM |
| 3 | how does one bring up the request to a friend for sex?The other thing to keep in mind is that women don't put themselves into situations where sex can happen if they don't like you. That in itself is a bit of a green light. If a girlfriend feels completely safe with you, hanging out at night and going back to your place - she's probably greenlit sex in her mind but may just not be showing any signs that she's going to initiate anything. Women - as a general rule - don't deliberately put themselves in "dangerous" situations with men. Of course, with… | /r/seduction | 24/06/22 01:08 AM |
| 3 | how does one bring up the request to a friend for sex?I tend to find that extreme passivity is *usually* prevalent with Asian girls but this is a huge generalization and not always the case. At least in my experience it's happened with those girls the most - so take that for what you will. Additionally I have been in situations where the girl was trying to get me to "see paradise by the dashboard light" (check out the Meatloaf song). In short, it's pretty annoying to be pestered to get married while you're eating a woman out - and in one such case … | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 08:02 AM |
| 35 | how does one bring up the request to a friend for sex?Need more context. If you're stuck in the friendzone, good luck. You got there by not being sexual, or by being sexual but accepting her frame that you aren't serious and just joking because you are like a brother to her or some rubbish like that. The important thing to stress to her is that you really like her as a friend and want to keep her as a friend - and that you like her as a person - otherwise you wouldn't even be friends. The only way to crash through the friendzone is basically to esc… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 07:52 AM |
| 2 | Asking for her Snap is a rookie mistakeEven more rookie is going for numbers at all. Getting numbers is a LAST RESORT. If you've properly attracted her, the only reason you need numbers is that there's something massive getting in the way of you and her sleeping together RIGHT NOW. For the number swap to work, you have to be in the situation where you KNOW sex is going to happen already BUT there's some logistical hurdle preventing it right now - not of her or your making. OK, so there will be some women who don't want to sleep on th… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 07:33 AM |
| 5 | [deleted by user]Moving on a male friend of yours' woman is a dog move. You can't hope to remain friends after that. Otherwise if you don't know the guy then it's all good. Who cares? Even if she's married... I mean, she promised HER HUSBAND fidelity. She didn't promise YOU anything... and if she's willing to break promises then perhaps you shouldn't promise her anything either! In that situation you probably won't even find out that she's married. The other tricky situation is hooking up with the friend of a gi… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:46 AM |
| 1 | The truth that turned me into a FboyI'm discussing many different kinds of women, so I don't even understand why you even said that. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 02:33 AM |
| 7 | The truth that turned me into a FboyThis is pretty normal. Women have two men in their lives: the lover and the provider.It forms the base of the "love triangle" romance novel story template.The woman has to choose between two men, the hot and sexy erratic one, or the kind boring sensitive one. Who will it be? LOL The dream is for them to be the same person, but for some women this isn't possible and hence the provider needs to be kept on a short leash and shaken down for resources while the other is the recipient of sex. And it's… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:48 AM |
| 1 | I'm afraid I might be turning into an incel. Do you guys have any advice?You need to explain what you are talking about with these women, and how far you are getting with them before you get rejected, and how you are getting rejected. It's pretty normal to get frustrated when starting out by getting rejected, blue balled, and having your time wasted. It can make you pretty angry as a young man. You just need to STOP yourself when you get angry like that because it WILL trip all the women's shit tests and then you'll get nothing and nowhere. If a woman is making you t… | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:18 AM |
| 6 | Is a ‘woman’s intuition’ just false mystique?Women's intuition is just a mystique. They can be fooled easily just like anyone else can. | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 61 | Be careful out here it’s a concrete jungle.You wouldn't fall for this situation if you don't take girls you want to sleep with to expensive restaurants. Expensive restaurants are for women you are already sleeping with. It's a reward for her looking after your emotional needs (*ahem*). You might argue that it's a prostitution paradigm, but what's the alternative? | /r/seduction | 23/06/22 01:08 AM |
| 3 | Change Her Mood, Not Her MindThere's a lot of reasons why women initiate breakups or lash out irrationally in arguments. Sometimes it's just plain old PMS - which is responsible for many a failed pickup and broken relationship. It's worth remembering - because most men are unaware of it being an influence (we don't get it, so how would we ever understand?) People's bad moods change with time and with a good combination of rest and food. Everyone gets cranky when those two things are in short supply, and then you throw in a … | /r/seduction | 21/06/22 07:40 AM |
| 34 | Got humbled for the first time in cold approachDrinking doesn't help your pickup. Just makes it worse. And numbers? In a club? I have never got a woman's number in a club and pulled later on. It's THAT NIGHT - or it's not happening. The problem you have in clubs is credibility - you're just some dick in a club. From her point of view you aren't worth a phone call. You are just there in a "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" context. A fun plaything for a few hours and then bye bye. | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?No I have no idea what you're ranting about. I already agreed that laws need changing and updating to deal with unethical and unconscionable behavior. You're going on about drinking water, and I'm talking about the on-topic context of pickup. The point of what I'm saying was simply this: Don't break the law. Hardly anything controversial. Everything else you are saying is just your projecting onto me. | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 11:46 PM |
| -1 | Late 30s fat woman re-entering the dating poolAnyway, your looks have nothing to do with being able to attract men. Men like quantity and variety over quality - and if you are pleasant to be around and open-minded sexually I don't really see a problem there. Nobody likes to be fetishized, but everyone has one anyway. That's something everyone has to deal with. You're going to find it tough getting the long-term relationship - or something serious you want - but it's not impossible past 30+ years. You are coming up against the wall - age wis… | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 07:40 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Thanks for revealing your misogyny for everyone to judge. | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 05:15 AM |
| 16 | [deleted by user]That was well handled. Some girls (and even some women) are just too immature to handle any kind of sexual relationship. This girl in particular sounds young and is learning to experiment with getting attention. Immature women are a bit like the "no sex before marriage" crowd, or the "play hard to get" crowd. It's fun for them to do that when they are young, but age catches up with them. By and large they're doing this with every man. If they don't change, then they hit the wall at 35 and wonder… | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?I could point out how wrong you are on many levels but I don't think you're going to listen anyway. Basically to defend your argument you would have to justify revenge killings. To do that, you would have to posit that if somebody felt that murdering someone else was the moral and ethical thing to do - then who cares about the laws? The laws are wrong! You're the dangerous one. Moreover you're the jealous one who sees other people getting ahead and then blames other people for your own problems.… | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?All that you're saying is that some laws don't exist to fix an ethical problem. Well, go make the laws then! I'll wait. In the meantime I'll do what I want within the limits of the law. And nobody can legally stop me until the law is changed. Sure, I may have to deal with the consequences of said actions (what other people think). But then if you're worried about what other people think about you attempting to pick up women (see the OP's original post), then nobody can help you. | /r/seduction | 10/06/22 06:56 AM |
| 1 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?I disagree. If it's unethical and immoral - then make the laws! But that's the problem isn't it? We don't get to make the laws, because only officials do (elected or otherwise)... so as a society we're actually beholden to whatever ethics and morals THEY have - REGARDLESS of whatever morals and ethics you have. So the only valid ethical and moral system is this :- Don't break the law! | /r/seduction | 10/06/22 12:35 AM |
| 0 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?You just proved my point though. If it's not illegal, people will get away with it.More to the point - people DO get away with it. Just go to a 3rd world country.Heck, just go to Bali... people throw their rubbish in the rivers all the time and nothing comes of it. I don't know how much you've traveled the world, but maybe you haven't? | /r/seduction | 10/06/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?Yes and that proves my point. If there's no law around it - then it's all OK. Just look at what social media companies get up to FFS. The tech moves faster than the laws can keep up with. I'm sorry if this daily dose of unadulterated truth upsets some people. | /r/seduction | 10/06/22 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Test or what?Well if she's lying to you about being busy, there's no way you can call BS on that without making things a whole lot worse - so that's out. The trick is to see if she's willing to find another time. No attempt to find a better time = not interested. Also, you should never ask a girl out. Just invite her to something you're already going to be doing. This sneaks past the "OMG he's asking me out on a date" filter. You will already be at said place and all she has to do is show up - or not. As for… | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:59 AM |
| -7 | Is Learning To Pick Up Women Morally Sound?You're a dating coach of 13 years and you're asking questions about "morality"? Listen... the ONLY thing that matters in this world are objective LAWS. NOT ethics, and NOT morality. They're entirely subjective and they don't even count. As long as you are not breaking any laws, or attracting the attention of the police, then all is fair in love and war. Pickup is really about communication and self-expression anyway. No two people are the same. If all men were really good at pickup, women would … | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:49 AM |
| -1 | I approached the hottest girl in the venue last night.You did OK, but you didn't need the direct compliment of "You're very cute". Sometimes being too blunt like that will trigger her "guy is hitting on me" alarm. If she says something like "I'm not in the mood", then understand that this is a *temporary* condition and her emotions are parked in that state FOR NOW. Since female emotions can be turned on a dime, the obvious thing to do is change her mood. This is where language skills become critical. I would acknowledge her state of mind and sympat… | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Is hookup culture really accessible to teetotalers?I'd say it works even better if you are sober - only problem is if you meet a drunk woman and want to take her home - issues of consent make it really problematic. | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 12:26 AM |
| 3 | Mind is blown after making a fake girl profile on Hinge in my area....WTFLOL, maybe it's all the same guy | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Do men find it unappealing when a woman is more upfront (ie less of a chase)?Kids being a major reason why men will grant commitment, if you're not interested in them until later, it's probably why you're having so much trouble. | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Do men find it unappealing when a woman is more upfront (ie less of a chase)?The older a man gets, I think, the less time he has to put up with a woman being difficult. I teach guys "Difficult women stay difficult". Fact is: if you really wanted the guy enough, you'd hook up with him without any of the nonsense. You obviously don't want him enough if you're being evasive. You seem to be wanting to progress to something serious with a guy. That's all well and good, HOWEVER the ONLY men who might actually want something like that are guys post 35 or 40 years old. Every oth… | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 06:45 AM |
| 2 | I did it! I asked a random girl out in a bar with her friends presentYeah well, saying "So what?" to you is incredibly rude. It's just much better when you find yourself talking to a guy who can make you feel understood :) The fact is that every woman *usually* has some love interest in her life so when meeting them you have to figure out exactly where it stands, and if it's going to be problematic or not. | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 06:12 AM |
| 2 | I did it! I asked a random girl out in a bar with her friends presentIf you're getting the IHABF line, you're probably not going to get anywhere anyway. You failed somewhere to attract her to the point where you got a knee-jerk reaction of her trying to get rid of you, because if she's up to getting rid of her boyfriend - she just won't bring him up. Maybe she does in fact have a really strong bond with her boyfriend and they have a really solid relationship? Either way, it's fun to probe the boyfriend for a bit of a laugh and as a "hail mary" - which is probably… | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 06:00 AM |
| 0 | I did it! I asked a random girl out in a bar with her friends presentWell, you don't really know if she's really happy with him or not... which is the entire point of my response. She could be living with a boyfriend and can't get rid of him for whatever reason. I was propositioned for a threesome once, but I had another girlfriend crashing at my place. I had to tell them that *sigh* "Sorry, I have a girlfriend" :( | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 05:58 AM |
| 6 | how to deal with physically aggressive guys at nightclubs?In short, don't deal with physically aggressive people. You're there to talk to women, not them. Screw them. Ignore them.Just watch out that you don't stand too close and get sucker punched - so keep a good distance. Of course that doesn't help you in the US where everyone in the saloon is packing heat like it's 1877. | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 02:38 AM |
| -22 | I did it! I asked a random girl out in a bar with her friends presentThe only progress you can make when a woman says that she has a boyfriend is attempt to feel out just how close she is with said boyfriend or if she is just brushing you off. "So you have a boyfriend?" and pick one of the following: - That's not how I determine if a woman is attractive or not. - You didn't need to tell me that other men find you attractive - Some women have enough love in their heart for two boyfriends :) - Is it serious? So have you talked to him about having children yet? - Is… | /r/seduction | 08/06/22 12:30 AM |
| 2 | I have been on 100+ dates with success rate of 5, how do I improve?Sometimes it's not an issue of courage, it's an issue of the woman being weird and giving mixed signals that throws you off. Then the last thing you want to do is rape her - so you let her go because it gets awkward. Also, some women are adverse to kissing (reserved for someone they are intimate with), but petting is totally OK. (WTF, I know right?) The solution is to take it slowly and get her pants off so you can go down on her at least. One you can do that, she'll typically buckle and all las… | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 06:50 AM |
| 8 | Hooked up with a girl at a club, she ghosted me, now got severe oneitisSo when you say you hooked up, you slept with her? Actually it doesn't really matter if you did or not. Hooking up with girls at a club typically means that you were her plaything for the evening. Sex or no sex.This is what you will find with club pickup - "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". I can only think of one time where I picked up from the club and the girl wanted to see me again after sex - and she was in her 30s and probably was looking for something serious and I was really drunk a… | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 06:30 AM |
| 2 | I don't understand why losing fat wouldn't be the absolutely priority for any mannot to mention testosterone | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 01:12 AM |
| 5 | I did cold approachThat's a good start. You can try experimenting with implied compliments in future:- "I just HAD to come over and meet you or I'd never get the chance"(This one is the un-rejectable opener. What's she going to say? "Actually you would have had the chance to meet me because I would have gone over to meet you first?"? Unlikely!) or "I like women with style which is why I wanted to say hi" both are more indirect but convey to her that you want to get her attention. Otherwise you can just start talki… | /r/seduction | 07/06/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | White European man struggling getting White European womenYou're better off saying that you're only there on holiday so they feel OK having sex with you and trying to get you to stay. | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 07:01 AM |
| 2 | How to stop obsessing over one girl?I think the best way to handle an unhealthy obsession is to write down the process that you go through - both emotionally, physically, and mentally - as you begin to start obsessing over someone. Write it down in excruciating detail. What do you begin thinking about... when does it happen, how your body feels, how it interrupts your train of thought.... all of it. In detail. For you to actually do this, you will have to drop yourself into a mental state where you can recall all these feelings, a… | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 06:44 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Not in a club can you really say anything. Most of my club pickups happened when I just came along and put my arm around some girl dancing. That's it. You can usually gauge level of comfort v discomfort to decide whether to continue, and probably you need to be a certain kind of guy to pull this off (i.e. big enough so that nobody is going to mess with you) Clubs are really suboptimal for meeting women. It's not impossible, but there's so many random variables in that environment that it becomes… | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 03:55 AM |
| 7 | [deleted by user]Don't vote me down because I disagree with some of this: Get her to talk about her passions - or what ever makes her feel passion for something on a physical level. Once you discover what that is, then it's a simple link to say "wouldn't it be great to be able to feel all those things for a guy?". If the woman isn't talking then, yes, you'll have to do the leg work and describe these feelings to her. Emotions: yes, but what emotions do you want her to feel? I'll go first : attraction, curiosity,… | /r/seduction | 06/06/22 12:57 AM |
| 9 | Seduction 101: Prologue Part 1 - The State of SedditI don't think it was set back as much as all the free material burned out and old websites and forums disappeared leaving huge gaps. Things really kicked off when Ross Jeffries introduced Speed Seduction, and then Maniac High's guide and Tony's lay guide appeared on the early internet around 1999. After that you have alt seduction fast (ASF) which was a popular web offshoot of the usenet groups, and Mystery had his own private forum. Then you get all the commercial operators coming out of the wo… | /r/seduction | 03/06/22 02:28 AM |
| 1 | What Are Common Sh*t Tests Women Will Do To Men?You can get annoyed - just don't turn into a dangerous raving lunatic prone to bouts of violence because she didn't want to suck your pee-pee. Best way to deal with shit-tests is just to say "no" when you mean it without going overboard, or just laugh and say "that's really not going to impress!" :D | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 07:28 AM |
| 7 | What Are Common Sh*t Tests Women Will Do To Men?Last minute resistance also falls into the shit-test category. In most cases the shit-test is to see if she you are safe to be around. So she will often do things and say things in an attempt to get you to lose your nerve. The only way to pass is by being calm, humorous, and unaffected by her behavior. As soon as you get angry at her - you lose. | /r/seduction | 02/06/22 12:12 AM |
| -4 | If A Woman Rejects You In Any Way, There’s No Solution. You Just Walk The F* Away.I'd take this with a pinch of salt though, because I never accept a woman's first response as set in stone. We've all seen those candid camera videos of some dude getting blown out by some good looking woman only for her to do a complete 180 when a Ferrari pulls up and he starts climbing into it. I'm not advocating attracting gold-diggers, but the point is that woman can change their minds. The thing that's getting you flaked on causing her to lose interest is that you're not attracting her in t… | /r/seduction | 01/06/22 01:07 AM |
| 3 | You won’t get her by needing herPIck up is really like excavation. You're only there to find the gold nuggets, and not rub the dirt so hard to try and turn it into a diamond. | /r/seduction | 01/06/22 01:01 AM |
| 30 | What are your smoothest lines/openers you've used with girls?"Excuse me, I just had to come over and meet you or I'd never get the chance." | /r/seduction | 31/05/22 12:44 AM |
| 7 | Why “nice” isn’t attractive, and why it actually makes senseBeing nice is fine. Being a pushover is not. Being non-sexual is not. | /r/seduction | 30/05/22 11:58 PM |
| -2 | A lot of you guys have a toxic view of women, and it’s holding you backIt's not about being selfish or manipulative so that they sleep with you. It's about communicating to them in a way that they understand and appreciate to get the results that you'll both enjoy. There is no truth, but magic. :D | /r/seduction | 30/05/22 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Most of the women I come across have a “he hates me that’s why I love him” kink.The guy treats her "mean" because he doesn't do any dating activities with her. He just calls her over and has sex with her. She can't leave him because the sex is too good. In a world without contraception, this guy would have knocked her up and now she's on the hunt for a beta provider to raise the child - which is why she approaches targets and complains about this so-call "ex boyfriend" that doesn't treat her properly. But she keeps going back to this "ex" who really isn't an ex. | /r/seduction | 29/05/22 11:58 PM |
| -1 | "I'm not that kind of guy"Well he's also dead, so I don't think he cares | /r/seduction | 29/05/22 11:44 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Probably being downvoted for implying that all women are out to deceive you - because many aren't. I agree though, you don't tell women that you only want them for sex. Honestly, if I like a woman enough to want to have sex with her, I'm going to keep wanting to see her! Here's the thing : it's not always reciprocal. Sometimes YOU are going to be used for sex, and trying to contact the one-night stand you hooked up with the previous night is going to result in a ghosting. Yes men can be used for… | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 06:15 AM |
| 2 | First date to Friendzone to still interested?You did the right thing by putting your foot down initially and saying "I don't need more friends, see ya". You took away the female currency of *attention*.She predictably tried to claw her way back. It's at this point you just invite her over to get down and dirty - and really boldly force the issue. No other option with this one. You are now stuck in "maybe" land, and it's the maybes that KILL you. A "Yes" is good. A "No" is not as good... but it is the maybes that kill you. A girl doing this… | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 02:57 AM |
| 13 | [deleted by user]Yep. The old "I'm only here on holiday" will often make women more likely to have sex with you on a casual basis. They don't feel slutty about that. It's also the sex tourists' ace up the sleeve. I mean, you can always change your mind later with "something came up so I'm staying" if you wanted to pursue something more serious. | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 12:05 AM |
| -5 | [deleted by user]Yeah absolutely have random sex with average girls.I mean, is this even a question? Guys don't have any issues with sleeping around, and going home with a woman who isn't all that is certainly much better than going home with Mrs Palmer and her five daughters. Possibly the best attitude adjustment I can think of to help with this is to consider yourself a manwhore and just to be indiscriminate. Unless, of course, she is that disgusting that you have to fake an orgasm. Nobody wins from that. You'… | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 12:02 AM |
| 18 | [deleted by user]I think you did the right thing in this circumstance. She was drunk. You don't have sex with people when they are drunk. I can't really type anything else on a forum like this. Yes, there are women who will only have sex while drunk, and that drunk sex isn't really fun anyway (I tried it when I was drunk, partner was not. It was not good!). Trust me... your life is better without the drama. | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 06:41 AM |
| 3 | Dealing with aggressive competition from other men, how would you handle this situation?Yeah well, surprise, surprise.... you pick up a woman who got a kick out of the drama you created and then you're surprised that she was a drama queen herself! Then in order to keep her, you have to keep getting in fights with men to maintain her interest. No thanks! | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 06:35 AM |
| 3 | Dealing with aggressive competition from other men, how would you handle this situation?Best way to deal with idiots in public is to ignore them as if they are invisible, put out your arm for your girl to hang on to, and tell her that the adventure continues elsewhere. And then you get her away from the idiot. There's no need to threaten violence - otherwise you might be on the receiving end of it from the unhinged men out there. You have to trust that your partner is going to have your back as long as other guy doesn't get violent and that she doesn't need to call you over for hel… | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Which one gets you the most results, Looks, money or status get you the most results?Working out and getting in shape helps a lot, but again - physical looks only gets you a ticket to the show. It doesn't necessarily get you backstage. | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 06:17 AM |
| 12 | Advice here actually works!Yes, the "tag along" setup works because it doesn't trigger a girls "OMG-is-this-a-date?" alarm. It's a response she doesn't expect so she doesn't resist it. It avoids her being stupid and trying to stand you up, or trying to reschedule you on a whim. And if she doesn't show, then it doesn't matter. Give them the joy of chasing a man. | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 06:14 AM |
| -1 | a girl/my best freind said im being to clingy and she wants me to leave her alone after i told her how i feelShe's underage so your question has no place on this SubReddit | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | What conversation topics to use to break the ice at the beginning of a conversation with a girl?Need more information. What do you mean by "relationship" in this context? Are you happy with it? And what does starting conversations have to do with that? | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 05:10 AM |
| 1 | A Great Tip To Kill Your Fear Of Approaching GirlsGet the hell out of small cities/towns/villages You'll never get the level of success you want unless you go to the big smoke. | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 12:10 AM |
| 23 | A Great Tip To Kill Your Fear Of Approaching GirlsAs Rocky used to say "it's not how hard you hit, it's about how much you can get hit and keep moving forward" That's the true definition of strength. | /r/seduction | 26/05/22 12:09 AM |
| 0 | Women as a source of motivation and reason to get your shit together1) Don't have kids out of any sort of need 2) Don't have kids because you are lonely 3) Don't have kids to give your life meaning 4) Don't have kids out of some notion of "eternal life" or living forever. Your kids are NOT you. They are their own people. They have their own consciousness. If you start a family based on any of these selfish notions, you will probably screw your kids up. Having kids has to be a completely selfless act that you do for the good of the world/society/God and no other … | /r/seduction | 25/05/22 01:26 AM |
| 0 | Should I keep faking my personality or go back to my old selfYoung girls will do stupid things like give you a hard time if they want attention. Immature girls are still in the stage where they can't show overt attention to a guy so they just call him "poopie head" and run away. Then again.... if they went to all that trouble to get your attention, guess what they wanted? Women aren't attracted by looks as much as they fall in love with their ears. It comes down to you directing the conversation properly into seductive topics. This is all high level stuff… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 07:01 AM |
| 1 | what to expect from the situationShe proposed to you? Am I reading that correctly? She wanted you to marry her?Well if you said no to that, then of course she's going to move on.If you wanted it, you should have put a ring on it. Do I need to explain as to why women move on and forget about you if they aren't able to satisfy the wedding agenda with a man? I mean, I tried an explanation in another post on another thread and it was downvoted to oblivion for unknown reasons. (given there was no counter argument - I presume I was r… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 06:28 AM |
| 3 | How do you deal with failure?I know a lot of people are going to say "get an interesting life", but you're hardly going to be a man of mystery if you reveal everything about yourself either. Frankly, most women don't really want some guy to hog the conversation and talk about himself all the time either. You goal in a conversation is to get information about her, listen to what she says, and determine what words, ideas, and concepts she leans on when she finds herself attracted to a man. Then you use your language skills to… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 05:37 AM |
| 9 | How do I start a conversation with a girl in a bar while she is surrounded by her friends?Most girls together in bars are just watching each others backs in a bar, but one of them is going to play devil's advocate and badmouth you simply to justify her existence UNLESS they are included in the conversation. Yes, this is where wingmen help, but if you are on your own - you simply treat the group as a single female and run your patterns to attempt to seduce all of them at the same time. Also, don't expect to be able to target the one you find most attractive. Accept the fact that you'r… | /r/seduction | 20/05/22 02:14 AM |
| 0 | Should I sleep with girls on the first dateHa ha... I wish it was! Clearly you kiddies aren't ready for it yet. What I'm talking about is really high level. "Every person must choose how much truth they can stand" ~Irvin Yalom | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 11:39 PM |
| -5 | Should I sleep with girls on the first dateYou're in an enviable position. First date sex is the goal!... and you are looking at this the wrong way. These women only want to have sex with you because they just like you - for you. No other reason. You were a fun thing they had to play with - but now that you've fulfilled your biological purpose (getting them pregnant supposedly) they actually don't want to burden you with a relationship. They let you loose so you can continue sleeping with other girls!Meanwhile they will find a beta male … | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 06:20 AM |
| 4 | Best way to work on social skills?Probably the best job to have to meet women would have to be fashion or model photographer. Or having enough money so that you didn't have to work. Or having no money and no job so that you had plenty of free time anyway. | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 04:53 AM |
| 10 | 13 Ways To Make Her Want YouThe problem with a lot of the old PUA advice is that it turns you into a supplicant chaser of women and doesn't really address any core issues. Just because you discovered that social proof works, does it immediately mean that you have to change who you are to get women by putting on a dog-and-pony peacock show? Joining the Mick Jagger school of pickup which involves being Mick Jagger? How does that improve who you are? ... and why are you bothering with shallow women who fall for this shallow c… | /r/seduction | 19/05/22 04:37 AM |
| 2 | How do you take initiative with a girl who already get hit often by tons of men?Sorry, but that's a "nice guy" strategy. | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 11:42 PM |
| 1 | How do you take initiative with a girl who already get hit often by tons of men?You come up with a ready stupid pick-up line (there's plenty online) and then immediately say "Hey I'm kidding. You probably get hit on a lot, but I just had to see if you're the sort of girl with a sense of humour that's worth getting to know" Note that there's a qualifier in there. Is she worth getting to know? Now she's forced to be nice to you otherwise you'll come to the other conclusion, won't you? | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 11:37 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]This is going to be a really long-winded answer to your question, because it covers so many things. Basically, it all really depends if you want a relationship. Personally, I think you should be trying to avoid these - unless you're at a stage in your life when you are wanting to commit to having a family and children. For most guys on this subreddit I really don't think many of you are at that stage in your life - and probably won't be until you hit 35-40 or thereabouts - if ever. Women intrins… | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 02:04 AM |
| 2 | I like a girl but my body and bank are not where I’m taking them at the moment.I'm sick of money topic on this board, and I wish there was some way to get moderators to block them - because it gets tiring telling people "No, money doesn't matter" when it comes to attraction. Money only matters in that it gives you FREEDOM and TIME to spend your life being anything but a wage slave. TIME is the most important thing when it comes to meeting women. And as others have said, having money only attracts prostitutes and gold diggers - but get this - they can't see inside your wall… | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 07:18 AM |
| -2 | My (almost) bulletproof method to prevent flakingThe other reason is possibly because they're going through PMS. Being on a period and feeling terrible is also a valid reason for women to avoid men.It's usually something that guys who don't get laid much probably haven't even considered. That completely random factor can mess up many a pick-up attempt. And obviously women don't want to tell you when they're on their period. It's embarrassing for them and - they'll find an excuse to tell you. Sadly you might end up interpreting it as her being … | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 04:27 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Getting to sex is like a sales pitch you are trying to make to an interested buyer. Class is in session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkjfZctGMq8 I hope this inspires you to think about what sort of topics you need to be talking about with women in order to sell more effectively, and close reliably. The aren't on a date with you to get out of the rain. | /r/seduction | 17/05/22 02:03 AM |
| 6 | Is Money Worth the Wait?The money thing always comes up, but the best time of my life was when I was in my mid-twenties, living out of a hole in the wall. Thing was, it was a hole in the wall of the best neighborhood and right in the middle of people traffic. I still pulled women to that tiny room - weekend after weekend - and had wild sex. No money was spent doing this (except maybe a drink at a bar on the way home) When a woman is good to go, she is GOOD TO GO - and other things don't really matter. | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 11:56 PM |
| 2 | What's the most profound thing you've learned while dating?Who said anything about pushing? OF COURSE you are going to get resistance if you push... and the reason why it gets you upset is because you don't know any other way of getting a woman to agree with you! ...and THAT'S creepy! Fact of the matter is, yes, if you give women orders (or anybody for that matter) they will resist because they perceive the idea coming from outside of themselves. Nobody likes being told what to do. On the other hand, if you make suggestions, describe a process, and do i… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 06:24 AM |
| 8 | What's the most profound thing you've learned while dating?Let me clarify:You accept her "no" until you make her say "yes" (and not by physical force obviously) People change their minds all the time. Usually in light of better information or because they feel differently about things. As for manipulation, it's a fact of life. If you want to get upset about manipulation, you might want to throw a brick through your TV set so you don't have to watch commercials anymore - because they're bombarding you with every manipulative sales technique in the book. … | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 05:11 AM |
| 9 | How do you approach super hot girls at bars?When dealing with groups of women, you are usually going to find the hot one being protected by the huge (sorry ladies) friend. It's almost a stereotype. She is the "mother hen" First of all, your aim here IS NOT to pick the hot one out of the group and talk to her. That's a quick way for the mother hen to come along and get in your face and drag her away. Your aim is to seduce ALL OF THEM. Does anyone in the back of the class want to raise their hand and tell me why this is so much superior tha… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | What's the most profound thing you've learned while dating?But the exceptions prove the rule. When I found one such exception, I married her. | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 01:01 AM |
| 14 | What's the most profound thing you've learned while dating?The most profound thing that you will learn is that women's emotions are malleable by a skilled artist, and they can be changed at the drop of a hat. And when it comes to their entire reality - they use their emotions to guide them. As long as their emotions are in alignment, you can get them to do mostly whatever you want. As another pick-up guru put it - you never take her first response as set in stone. And this is why. | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 12:44 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Honestly, if it's got to the point where you're getting friendzoned, it's either because you couldn't attract her, or she just has a low sexdrive / immaturity. in other words, you should never find yourself in this position in the first place - but if you do - the only way forward is to be polarizing. Go for broke. Either you'll end up having sex, or you'll burn your bridge here entirely. Both are wins. Why? A yes to sex is good. A no to sex is not as good. but it's those damn MAYBES that will k… | /r/seduction | 16/05/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | How can I pay to have sex with a woman?Strange topic to put on reddit, but OK - since you asked. If calling up an escort agency and doing it that way is not your thing, then consider becoming a photographer, attempting to hire models for porn sessions, and doing it that way. There are plenty of women who are confident and like to pose for photos, and some even do it professionally as insta-thots and cam models. Now, there are legalities around doing this (Basically the compliance bit you see in small print on porn websites), so you n… | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 04:02 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Unless you're pushing things in a sexual direction, she's going to see you as a nice guy. The problem with nice guys is that while they're nice (which is good), they don't make things go in a sexual direction and hence the woman just never sees them in any other way. They give their "value" away (by spending time with them talking forever, giving them the attention they crave) without imposing a fee for it with something they want (sex).Of course, there is no forcible imposition - the woman is f… | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 03:31 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]Being deep and talking about emotions is what you should be doing, but only if those emotions you bring up are all good ones. If you go all negative nancy and take her into places where she's going to feel sad, angry, or disgusted - then you're not helping things. The trust and comfort part gets you a foot in the door to go sexual and push boundaries. The trouble is if you stay there and fail to move things into the sexual - you are just going to line yourself up to be an emotional tampon and fi… | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 01:13 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Firstly asking to "get to know her more" is a bit cringe. She knows what you want. You know what you want. She says "I'm not interested in a relationship, but I'd like to continue the friendship" You say "That's great because I hate relationships, but friends with benefits sounds great. I never fuck my friends over but I'd gladly fuck you over and over and over!" if she balks at that I'd say "Well if you don't care for my emotional needs, so we're really not friends at all! I suppose you don't m… | /r/seduction | 13/05/22 12:11 AM |
| 6 | Stop looking for sex and you'll get itThis is BS. What you're alluding to is neediness. Yes if you display neediness you will repel women. Not rocket science. In many cases during picking up a woman she wants to see if you're willing to walk away at any step in the process. And you have to display this. This is what shit tests are. | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 05:34 AM |
| 1 | For average guys that have been in the game for a decade or so. Has the rate of girls flaking gotten worse?The issue with flaking is: Not attracting her properly in the first place Being needy with the number Not sealing the deal when you have the opportunity, and trying to string it out. Do any of those and the chance of her flaking goes up. To fix this: Attract her properly (seduction patterns, gauge her responses) Give her your number if you really have to separate. More powerful for a lot of reasons (won't appear needy, gives her a chance to invest in you, less headache for you wondering if it's … | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 02:20 AM |
| 2 | We aren't tea readers. We can't tell you if some chick likes you.My 2c: WHO CARES if she likes you? The point is to turn her on so she wants to have sex with you. She doesn't have to like you to do that. She only has to get turned on by you. | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Any of Ross Jeffries material David Shade's material | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 02:13 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]"I'm looking for love" Succinct, and vague. "I'll know it when I find it" | /r/seduction | 12/05/22 12:09 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Part of the problem is that they don't want you to figure them out. Subconsciously they want you to cleave to their reproductive strategy - which works for them, but certainly doesn't for a sexually healthy male. | /r/seduction | 11/05/22 06:53 AM |
| 3 | How do you personally word it when you are asking a girl on a date?It also filters out girls who are timewasters and schedule changers "let's meet somewhere else (in an expensive restaurant)!" or the dreaded "I'm going to bring my friend", or women who would let you go out of your way to set up a date and then stand you up. None of that will work because you have inflexibly set a time and place to some place you are already going to, so any attempt on her part to wrestle control of the frame or stand you up won't work. If she tries to mess with it, it's just go… | /r/seduction | 10/05/22 01:37 AM |
| 1 | How to get dates with Tinder and BumbleYeah the mirror selfie will get your profile shadowbanned | /r/seduction | 09/05/22 11:27 PM |
| 4 | 🌏 My Personal Bible On How To Meet And Date Women From All Over The World 🌍Easy enough to meet and date women from everywhere - another thing entirely to bang them. Additionally you will find differences from someone who is FOB (fresh off the boat) in your home country as opposed to meeting them on their own turf. Additionally you have the barrier of language as well. Are they all speaking English? Or are you speaking in their own language? Women are actually more the same than they are different. And then you can have people of the same culture be completely different… | /r/seduction | 09/05/22 06:44 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]Being attractive comes down to being sociable and happy. Laughing is part of that. The thing you have to balance is being funny without being a clown. You can be as funny as you like, just don't be an embarrassment that a woman doesn't want to be seen with. | /r/seduction | 09/05/22 02:11 AM |
| 8 | How to get dates with Tinder and BumbleHaving good close-up pics with natural lighting and nothing obscuring your face while you smile is the best way to ensure that your profile doesn't get kicked to the curb. | /r/seduction | 09/05/22 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Still don’t know what the fuck to talk about when I meet a girl at a party or a night outHonestly, you can add in whatever you want. I just gave a few examples. And even then these are just themes. You'll have to do some work coming up with ways to introduce them into conversation | /r/seduction | 08/05/22 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Still don’t know what the fuck to talk about when I meet a girl at a party or a night outWhatever you say or describe to her will go into her head, and be imagined by her, and change how she feels. I mean, I know it's obvious - but what you say, she will listen to and interpret! So you need to ask yourself "What mental states do I want her to be in when she is around me?", and then in an otherwise, innocuous, and normal sounding conversation, you accurately DESCRIBE those things you want her to feel. Then you talk about the processes that take place when people feel all those things… | /r/seduction | 06/05/22 07:03 AM |
| 3 | Just do not think its worth it anymoreI have been in this position, and usually what happens when you reach the top of the world, you start wondering "what else is there?", and then you get all philosophical and start wondering about what the point of it all is. I went and took it to it's logical conclusion - decided that it would be a waste of talent if I didn't have kids before I got too old to have them. So I have them now. Part of me wishes that I didn't and just slept around and had illegitimate children everywhere - but I coul… | /r/seduction | 06/05/22 06:58 AM |
| 13 | [deleted by user]You are their ticket to a (imagined) better life. by talking to you, they're just buying a lottery ticket | /r/seduction | 05/05/22 11:15 PM |
| 6 | I'm a SHORT ASIAN GUY who won at the seduction game. Two tips on meeting new prospects and getting them HOOKED.What you are describing is basically setting up the comfort, trust, and rapport part of the seduction (your hook) before going around dropping in the sexual parts. Standard operating procedure. So you start out with talking about how it's nice when you've met someone and as if you've known them forever and can talk about anything. Then talk about how nice and comforting it is when you're with someone who makes you feel relaxed and able to just "be themselves". Then you might even drop in some bi… | /r/seduction | 05/05/22 07:34 AM |
| 2 | I'm a SHORT ASIAN GUY who won at the seduction game. Two tips on meeting new prospects and getting them HOOKED.Actually no! If she's not that talkative, it's great. You basically get to tell her what to feel and what to experience. So you can run seduction patterns on her uninterrupted. All the same, such women are generally passive and need a strong lead. Keep pushing things your way and you'll probably get what you want. As long as she's not resisting heavily of course. | /r/seduction | 05/05/22 05:10 AM |
| 1 | recommendations for hobbies that can be done from home and make you a more attractive well-rounded person for dating?1) Work out and be in good shape 2) Learn guitar - the most portable way to seduce women with your voice 3) Learn daytrading. It's freaking hard, but done right you only need an hour or two per day to look at charts and put trades on. The payoff is loads of money and even more free time. Failing that, start an amazon business or something. | /r/seduction | 05/05/22 01:17 AM |
| 4 | Gaming at places you frequentin cases where idiots interrupt like this I actually just quit and leave. Guy has already made an ass of himself, so he can stand there burning himself out on the woman and get nowhere and then you just come back later. Excuse yourself and wait till the other guy is gone. There's no point fighting the guy or arguing with him because it's a waste of time. Plus it just marks you as immature to the woman that you would even fight over her. It's like the bully who wants to kick you off the swing on … | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 11:48 PM |
| 2 | (M28) Show me how to be more seductive.Most women aren't wife material. Sadly I have to say that there's a reason for that, and the reason is that men don't really have any functional use to them after having sex - but they are more than happy to receive financial and emotional support for any kids you have. Maybe that will be from you - or some other cuck that is happy to look after children that aren't his. And that will continue until she doesn't need the support any more and lets all the men hovering around her go out to pasture.… | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 07:08 AM |
| 2 | (M28) Show me how to be more seductive.Sorry to break it to you, but it's really not. The old "solar panel for a sex machine" joke is pretty apt. Any deficiency you think you might have can be worked around by getting the girl in-state to the point where it doesn't matter. You do need some skill to handle objections though and reframe them as positives. Same deal with having sex with girls in club bathrooms. They don't care how much money you make or where you live when they're blowing you off next to a toilet. They were up for it th… | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 07:00 AM |
| 1 | I have a really deep voice, & it is something I am complimented on fairly often. How can I use it to my own advantage?Get David Shade's books and recordings. That will tell you how to use it. | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 03:39 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]You don't have to change who you are, but you do have to have discipline to defend yourself from emotional abuse as well. You have to know what you want, and what you will or will not accept. Most niceguys don't understand their value and just give it away for free. Then get upset when the woman doesn't reciprocate. What you have to do is force the woman to invest in you (by getting her to chase after you), and limit your interactions with her unless it's under the context that you want. Learn t… | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 01:33 AM |
| 8 | (M28) Show me how to be more seductive.Nothing wrong with you. Balding is no issue, only as long as you shave it all off.Met lots of guys who were good with women while being bald.You're only 28. Best advice to give is to go travel. Sounds like your issue is just not meeting enough women. Working in IT is going to guarantee you that unless you have an active nightlife. The other issue is your demands you're placing on women to be up to your standards.To get good with women, I would totally trash that idea and whore yourself out to al… | /r/seduction | 04/05/22 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Any tips on not getting a blank head when talking to women?Your aim while talking to her is to get a RESPONSE. Otherwise your talk is just wasting time. Seriously. The response you want is one of the following characteristics: intrigue, curiosity, desire, lust, trust, connection, attraction, etc. etc. So what you di is build questions that ask her to delve deep into these themes. Also, you design conversations that lead directly into these themes. And what tends to happen is while you are talking to her, she will begin to feel all of the things I mentio… | /r/seduction | 03/05/22 07:13 AM |
| 2 | How do introverts get girls?Introversion is not going to help you with women. A man needs to be socially outgoing and above all, happy and having fun. That's what women find attractive. The thing with introversion is that it takes you out of situations where you are likely to meet women, thus blunting your ability to have any chances at all. Introversion means that large groups of people probably tire you out. It's not that you have no social skills. Quit the opposite. Many introverted people have great social skills, only… | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 12:32 AM |
| 6 | Being A Pick-Up Newbie Is Fun!You can't love others until you love yourself."If you believe you can or you can't, you're right" Best book to clear the brain fog is probably the self-help classic Joseph Murphy tome "The Power of your Subconscious Mind". Do a quick google search for a PDF of it and you might find one. See if that helps you change your internal dialogue, because all the problems in the world start there. | /r/seduction | 02/05/22 12:23 AM |
| -1 | would you rather have sex with one girl for life or will you keep having sex with different girlsPut 10 women and 1 man on an island - and that man is going to have a GREAT time! Put 10 men and 1 woman on an island - and then men will fight it out to sleep with the woman. There will be lots of death and/or subjugation. The man who gets the woman will be "king". It's all due to the fact that women are tied up for 9 months with a baby, so they are extra careful as to who the father is - and as such - choose the best one they can find. They only need ONE, and the excess men are expendable. Nob… | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 06:54 AM |
| 4 | If girls see that other girls they know/associate with are interested in a guy then they themselves will be interested in that guy (not always but I’d say frequently) even if they initially did not think that guy was attractive themselves"Social Proof" and "Preselection" Nothing new that we didn't already know. Just goes to show that women generally have a herd mentality and follow each other like sheep. Men are different and generally take more risks. Of course these are generalizations, but the exceptions (of what few there are) prove the rule. | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 06:47 AM |
| 2 | What 99% of you actually need to experienceYou probably will feel a bit disingenuous initially - but that's only because you're being lazy and not doing the work. It's a bit like saying "Well I'm not a buff guy, so I'm not even going to bother lifting weights". Self-defeating logic. The only thing you really have to change is how you handle logistics, and what you believe about yourself and what's possible. You don't go around changing your personality to get women - that's stupid. Saying no to women occasionally and limiting your intera… | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 01:02 AM |
| 1 | would you rather have sex with one girl for life or will you keep having sex with different girlsMen are just geared to sleep around, and be attracted to different bodies. Yes every woman has boobies and a vagina, but you will still find yourself looking at other women. This is what a lot of women fail to understand. You will find them shocked to find that some guy who had a beautiful wife gets caught cheating with some random woman who isn't even as nice. It makes no sense to them. To men, it makes perfect sense. Dude wanted some strange! If you had the choice to stay with one woman, or sl… | /r/seduction | 29/04/22 12:49 AM |
| 3 | What 99% of you actually need to experienceThe only way you have of even getting there however is to bootstrap yourself and your confidence. This means talking and behaving in a way that a man with options would EVEN WHEN you probably don't have the options available. That is actually tricky, and there's always a risk of overdoing it, trying too hard and coming across as arrogant. The trick is to stick to a plan - particularly in your logistics. You need to strictly manage who your give your details to (rather than chase after a woman's)… | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 07:36 AM |
| -1 | no teasing or push/pullTeasing is important, but it's HOW you do it that's important. You don't want to tease her about her appearance. You DO want to tease her in the bedroom | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | I stopped giving her validation by muting her social media posts/stories, and she came backI mean that you're not going to spend any time with her unless it's at your place with some romantic involvement. I would actually say this as a joke to see how she reacts. I think you've probably blown it with her anyway, she probably won't react positively - but it's worth a "hail mary" attempt before you completely ignore her. | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 07:31 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]They just might want to be friends with benefits. Did you consider that? That's just a clue to you to not behave in a way that will make them think that you want a "relationship" because their intention is to play the field with other guys and don't want you getting jealous. By all means be their friend, and remind them that you'll always be their friend, and that you will never screw them over.... but maybe you will screw them over and over and over and over ! It is a bit stupid for them to lay… | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 12:56 AM |
| 4 | I stopped giving her validation by muting her social media posts/stories, and she came backSure, withdrawing your attention will get her clawing back for your attention again, but unless you specifically point her into the bedroom if she wants your time again, she'll just pull the same stunt again on you. But what this should demonstrate to you is the female goal of collecting as much attention (or male hearts) as possible by engaging in annoying behaviour. Understand it for what it is and don't reward it. | /r/seduction | 26/04/22 12:51 AM |
| 4 | Social skills - how do you make your conversations less dry?Getting good conversationally is basically your tactical nuke when it comes to seduction. Master it and a whole new world opens up. Women, you have to remember, live in a world of EMOTION. They are emotion junkies. They want to feel and relate. They want to have fantasies. They often times just ignore reality. Actually that's a salient point. You're never lying to a woman when you talk about feelings. They are subjective and not factual. Emotions exist in her subconscious mind, where anything is… | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 05:35 AM |
| 2 | How Music And The Media Romanticize Emotional Neediness And The “Nice Guys”.Anything too stupid to say is sung. | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Need some clarificationGoing for dinner with an online date is just a no-no. Too expensive. Takes too long. Instead, you have late drinks at a bar/cafe near your place, where you may or may not even get her ONE drink. That's when you really lay it on thick, conversation wise. Don't stay longer than 30 minutes. Then you make some excuse to go back to your place. If that routine fails, then she's not going to ride the baloney pony. Just forget her unless she calls you up asking to come over later. You're in over your he… | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 03:22 AM |
| 1 | What to do when a girl plays hard to get?No it's perfectly accurate, because you're objectifying a woman who doesn't want you sexually. | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 02:54 AM |
| 24 | What to do when a girl plays hard to get?Women are not "hard to get", evidenced by the fact that sex happens either very quickly or not at all. Anyone who has waited an excessive period of time or made an extreme effort before finally having sex with their object of desire - if it has even happened at all - probably hasn't realized that their partner been fucking someone else in the interim. They either just don't want you, or are not in the mood. The maximum amount of time you should hold out on a woman is one month.Why one month? Bec… | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Formerly overweight men, how much of an impact did toning your body have on seducing women in real life and on online dating?I was a bit overweight at one point, and then I just got shredded by going to the gym religiously every day, lifting weights for an hour and then half an hour of cardio. Made good use of a gym membership. Went on a diet as well. Yes, the difference it makes is huge. Assuming you then go and meet women of course and don't spend forever in the gym. Also don't do anything stupid like steroids. You want to look healthy, and not like the incredible hulk. I have seen guys - huge rugby players - built … | /r/seduction | 21/04/22 01:43 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]OK. As a married man with lots of experience with women under my belt I am going to say this: My attitude to relationships is to AVOID THEM. Casual sex all the way! Are you going to marry this girl? Do you have kids together? No? Then STOP pretending you are in a relationship with them. Don't let them think you are in a relationship with them. Don't go around together doing dating type things! You're only going to make her eventually angry to the point where she leaves anyway because you aren't … | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Girl troubleOnce you get texting, the idea is to plant INTRIGUE. You can only do that with some probing, open ended questions that elicit her emotions. If you start with "hey, wazzup" or talk about yourself, hobbies, the weather.... you are wasting her time and yours. It is NOT what you're on the app to do, so get to business. OK? Once thing you do NOT want to do is get stuck in texting hell. Texting hell is when the girl will simply bleed your time for her own attention and amusement, and refuse any attemp… | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:42 AM |
| 1 | What is the fastest way for guys to get better with women?There is no fast way - unless you're already predisposed to be Mick Jagger. There is a lot you have to work on, and all of it wouldn't fit into a single post. Bottom line is, getting good with women is a sales profession. You are selling yourself. Figure out what women would like to buy and offer it. The fastest way to get started is to get off Reddit, meet a girl, talk to her about things that excite, amuse, and arouse her while feeling absolutely comfortable. Then report back and then we can t… | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Does he like me or was just being nice?He sounds super sensitive that he doesn't want to upset you and that's actually a good thing. But also he probably hasn't done this before and obviously doesn't want to mess it up. He's probably just waiting for you to grab his hand and put it on your breasts or something. Something that absolutely green-lights consent. A man who respects you is generally going to wait until he gets a sign from you that IT'S ON. | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:43 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I can tell you what is wrong: just re-read what you wrote. It's all a big pity story. You need help changing your inner dialogue to something that is going to help you. If you keep being stuck in this pattern of "woe is me" then don't be surprised that this resonates outwards and puts people off. If you keep repeating it in your mind, it will become a mantra that poisons your every interaction. You can't love others until you learn to love yourself. You need to start with the attitudes and repla… | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:33 AM |
| 0 | Countries to consider for dark skinned guysTravel is always a good idea. "Go to where you are wanted!" Being black is no problem. Lots of women are into black guys. Just be the type of black guy that the women are interested in, and not the type that they are not. It sucks being a minority anywhere - but look on the bright side: There are a niche of women who will want you because you are different, and you have something to offer which the majority does not. You can corner that market. You just need to understand it and work that niche … | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Countries to consider for dark skinned guysI wouldn't say it's easy at all! Yes, there is a niche of Japanese women who are into foreigners and an even smaller niche who want to upset their parents and have sex with a black guy. It's possible of course, but you have to go to clubs where black culture is celebrated to find a girl who herself wants to look like she's black. But by and large Japanese women aren't interested in foreign men. They color their hair so they can look like the white women who the Japanese men are actually in love … | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:23 AM |
| 6 | How does one start dating? Is not having experience a turn off?Find an older woman. Plenty of them in their 30s who would love a boy toy. Women really come into their sexual selves in their late 20s early 30s - as they know that their window of opportunity to have children is slowly running down. They'll do most anything you want in the sack and let you experiment. That should get you some confidence. This is in stark contrast to the early 20-somethings who have a massive amount of male attention and are acting like prissy attention-whores and teases as the… | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Tinder’s Algorithm is a scamYour profile will also be thrown down the list if you keep getting unmatched. You can get unmatched easily enough by starting out with boring messages like "hi, how are you?" or "you're beautiful" instead of a probing open-ended vague questions that challenge and intrigue the women. | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 12:21 AM |
| 3 | Tinder’s Algorithm is a scamYes it's all a business and the AI is honed to keep people on the site. It's finely tuned to make money. Needless to say that women get heaps of messages and have to wade through them. The site has to cater to the women on the site otherwise men (who vastly outnumber the women) won't line up to play the slots. The AI favours women over men. The only way to win is to cheese the algorithm(s). And even when you do manage to match you have to wade through women shit testing you and trying to waste y… | /r/seduction | 20/04/22 12:17 AM |
| 4 | I can easily talk to girls in bars but dont know how to escalateYou don't talk to women like you talk to your guy friends. Women are addicted to emotions, and particularly in context of you being a man and her being a woman. That said, if you get her talking about other things which excite, stimulate, arouse, intrigue, and make her curious - she can make that leap over to you with those feelings. If you then ask her "so what would it be like if you were to discover all of those feelings and properties in a man?"... you're standing right there! Prepare for fi… | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 05:12 AM |
| 102 | Tinder’s Algorithm is a scamAll I know with these apps, is that if you annoy the AI - you get thrown to the bottom of the pile and never show up. You pretty much have to play by the algorithms rules or you get shadowbanned. You won't even know that you're in the naughty bin other than that you're not getting any activity. You get punished for not having a good 3-5 clean photos (smiling, good lighting, facial closeups with no masks/sunglasses, high quality resolution, good composition, hopefully professionally done), and a … | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Boring Replies from Girls in Dating AppSome girls just like the attention. Maybe they're young and they've just discovered that men will fall in love with them without even having to do anything, or worse - tolerate her being an idiot. Women are addicted to emotional highs, and sometimes the emotional high for her is the one I described above.... trying to make an idiot out of you from the safety of her phone for her own amusement. | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 12:50 AM |
| -2 | How do you guys deal with womens fuckery?Girls go to clubs for different reasons. You want to find the ones who are DTF that night because their timing for sex have peaked and they just need it TONIGHT. Of course you will also bump into ones that are just out in a club to be attention whores. It's a boost to their self esteem that guys approach them, but they're not in the mood (or time of month necessarily) for having sex. It's a bit pathetic that women do this, but you're going to see it a lot from young women whose sense of self-est… | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 12:39 AM |
| 7 | I always get held back by myself when i see a really nice girl.Confidence is just a feeling that you have and a mental process you undertake to reach a particular level of performance. Best confidence you can have is to KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ahead of time, and knowing that it has a good chance of success will give you the confidence you need. Takes a lot of practice to get good. Either you have to approach a lot of women or you have a lot of self-rehersal ahead of you. | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | It seems my problem, after all, is too much libido,Lust is useful to get you out talking to women, but when you are with them - rather than focus on your own feelings of lust - try and get the women thinking about their OWN feelings of lust. What process do they go through mentally to start feeling lust? Describe what you are feeling to them and see if they can feel the same. They may just talk themselves into feeling the same way! In short, don't focus too much on your own feelings, but rather focus on what the women are feeling and then guide … | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 03:49 AM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]Come on, we can't be advocating violence here - even in jest. You don't have to worry about anybody cockblocking if you've managed to engage the woman enough. If she is with friends then engage them too. You can turn them all on at the same time if you have your emotionally/sexually charged conversational routine down-pat. I have done this on a lot of occasions. You can possibly end up with both girls sharing you if you do it right and they are game for it. If there are men around - they will ty… | /r/seduction | 14/04/22 03:44 AM |
| 2 | Don’t be a bad boy if that isn’t who you areYou have to disassemble what "bad boy" means. It basically means a man who is sexual and dominant. It has nothing to do with treating women badly or being a grade-A asshole. I don't recommend that because it WILL attract women dangerous to your health and sanity. Essentially you state what you want and you go for it without apology. You make the most of your time and don't waste it. It's a bit of a cop out to redirect your energy into something other than women, because women bother you. It's un… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 06:52 AM |
| 4 | I can't take this anymore.Get out of whatever country you are in and go elsewhere. Currently your internal beliefs about women - up until now - are so out of whack that you need positive experiences to whack them back to normal. You need to GTFO of whatever country you are in and travel. Go someplace where you will get responses so far out of your ordinary existence that you will have to question your beliefs about everything. And preferably a place where the women have no sexual hangups. | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Having good game is great, but let’s all remember…Comfort is important, sure - but if you're too comfortable and not sexual at all, you end up in the friend-zone and being juiced for your time and attention and not engaging in any sexual behaviour that you would really like. While you can't force anyone to feel anything (attraction is not a choice), you can use your words to suggest and influence. If you listen to the woman you are interested in, she will even TELL YOU how she wants things to go. She may simply seduce herself by working herself… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 04:56 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]Which women are you talking to?I bet if you start approaching older women, you're going to find things a lot easier. Good looks aren't everything with women. Most of what turns them on happens between their ears, and in particular, what you say to them. More importantly how you listen to them, as they will often tell you what turns them on if you ask, and then all you have to do is get them to imagine that it's already happening - and that it's on. Being decent looking can also work against you.… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Banging lots of girls is overratedI mentioned this before, but having lots of sex (and making the effort that goes with it), makes you end up feeling like a manwhore. Same thing goes for women who attempt to do this. There's actually nothing wrong with this. You are awesome for being able to satisfy many partners - selflessly. If you feel that it's draining you, then just take a break! As for the "nobody gives a fuck in 30 years time" - I call BS.YOU will care about the number of women you bang. Regret is not fun, especially the… | /r/seduction | 13/04/22 12:06 AM |
| 14 | Why do so many guys simp?Simping happens when a man fails to realize what value he brings to the table. He simply showers it all where it's not wanted, appreciated, or reciprocated, and looks like an idiot for doing so. Pearls before swine. | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 12:06 AM |
| 2 | This Girl I’ve been talking to Posted about me on tik tok.Don't | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 12:01 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]You're at your prime in your early thirties in the same way that women are in their early adult years. As others said, it really involves going out and meeting people at events. By now you should have enough confidence to get in anybody's face and talk with them. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Is playing guitar on the street to possibly meet women a stupid idea?Guitar playing is very good. Don't forget to sing about love, and strong feelings though. The music is nice, but the lyrics need to be suggestive at the very least. No emotionally/sexually charged lyrics and you won't get them screaming for you like the Beatles. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:16 AM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]If you're working online game, whatever you do, you can't risk upsetting the site's AI. If the site's AI gets upset with you, your profile gets hidden. That means, good natural light professional photo with you smiling, good written profile, daily use of the site, not swiping on everyone, etc. Ghosting is happening probably because you're failing to engage the women's imaginations that you are managing to meet. Also: You need to set up a meet very quickly. Let it drag on too long and she will ju… | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Does he like me or was just being nice?Hard for men to comment on a woman's question, but I would first have to ask if you're getting what you want out of the current situation. Some women are happy with guys showering them with goodies and taking them places, and not feeling like they have to "satisfy the man emotionally" by doing anything for him - unless they already wanted to already. Judging by the guy's behaviour, of course he's interested in you. Probably has no idea how to escalate and "seal the deal" though. Probably waiting… | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Does causal sex leave you feeling a bit empty?The issue is basically the feeling of "whoring yourself out", and that impacts men and much as it does women. Then again, it must be true love when you sacrifice a part of yourself for someone else's pleasure. You can mentally get around that and indulge in more casual sex knowing that you're making the world better one person at a time. All you people wanting one person all for yourself could be coming across as selfish - believe it or not. Just another opinion :) | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:28 AM |
| 3 | NON-VIRGINS OF REDDIT: Do you think losing your virginity is something special?Kids are a lot of fun, only that they are expensive financially and are time-sinks which will prevent you chasing your other dreams. Go out and live first, and when you're tired of living you'll find that children will keep you going. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:10 AM |
| 23 | What things do women go through with dating?Sorry for this interruption, but to some of the men who have already posted something: Not every woman desires monogamy. Some are just happy sleeping around, not having kids. Same with women who want to have kids but don't care much to have a man in their lives. They exist too! Just as there are women out there who want to get married and have kids but don't want to have sex before marriage. Similarly, there are men open for marriage, just as there are those looking to get as much sex as possibl… | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:09 AM |
| 2 | Unless you are in an established relationship with someone, there needs to be a degree of emotional detachment regarding a potential future with themWell I hope so, because it's my personal opinion based on 20+ years of dating many many women. And this also a forum where people share opinions. Not exactly a surprise. Is it always true? Of course not.... but ignore it at your own peril. I went to great pains to detail what I meant by "expendable". If anything it's to help guys untie their emotional investment in women that aren't satisfying their emotional needs, and it needs to be viewed from that perspective. | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 01:00 AM |
| 8 | Accused of rape last year and haven't been able to recoverIf you're doing nudes, you need to speak to some porno producers. They have a pile of compliance docs that they need to get done in case they ever get investigated. I don't know the specifics of doing any of this (that's almost a business secret!), but you need to look into it. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 06:49 AM |
| 5 | Accused of rape last year and haven't been able to recoverDon't you get them to sign the documents though? If you're not getting that squared away for compliance, then you are an idiot! | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 05:54 AM |
| 10 | Accused of rape last year and haven't been able to recoverThat really sucks and I feel for you. Club pickups always run the risk of the woman being slightly drunk, and even though it may have been consensual at the time, buyers remorse can often set in the next day and then they're changing their mind on their otherwise consensual decision by throwing you under the bus. The irony is that some women will only have sex while drunk! (note: avoid these ones!) My advice is fairly simple: stop going to clubs. They are a business that thrives on making money … | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 03:44 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]I'm too old to ever feel inferior to women now. I recognize that a lot of women suck (and not in a good way), and they're imperfect, often wrecks of human beings. Especially young ones who think their young bodies can get them everything they want while having a personality that is the equivalent of scraping your nails on a blackboard. One thing that it takes a while for men to appreciate is female loyalty, and that learning that when women - who may not always be the best looking - will do prac… | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 12:26 AM |
| 9 | I wonder how many guys who share advices here are actually getting girlsMen are just as opportunistic. Confront that in yourself and you'll forgive it when you see it in the women you've been with. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 12:17 AM |
| 0 | I wonder how many guys who share advices here are actually getting girlsI'm old and been at this for well over 20+ years. Notches on my belt go into the upper double figures, but after a while you lose count and stop caring. I'm also married with children - so I know what I'm talking about from every angle you can possibly think of, be that getting laid or relationship management. | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Unless you are in an established relationship with someone, there needs to be a degree of emotional detachment regarding a potential future with themBest thing to do is try not to catch feelings and just work on satisfying your lust - especially if you haven't had sex with her at all. There is an element to treating women as expendable when you get good at this. To clarify what I mean by "expandable", I mean that you shouldn't care if you annoy a few or get them upset with you just because you only want them for sex. If you lose a few because you are a man with emotional needs that can only be realized physically (like any other man), and th… | /r/seduction | 08/04/22 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Closed for a number…somehowOK, you just went and bugged a girl for her number. There's probably little chance she's actually going to pick up much less have a conversation with you - but you can try although I wouldn't expect too much. But you have to start somewhere... You only have a limited window to seduce her initially, so you have to be real quick. Small talk and just going for a number is not going to do it. | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 07:21 AM |
| 5 | First Approach Outside of A Bar Today!Well it's a start. Biggest hole you are goin to fall into being a newbie is continuing with boring small talk and never getting out of first gear. The boyfriend response is just her way of saying "I don't feel anything with you", which is a valid response since you never really got out of small talk or captured her imagination, and hence no reason to really drive her to want to see you again. She mentioned horses, so what you do is start asking what about it gets her feeling things on a very dee… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 07:06 AM |
| 3 | [deleted by user]You can actually ask girls if you can touch them in intimate areas and if the feeling is right they will say yes. You really need a read of the room. | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Girls want you to take action!!Chalk it up to experience. I have lost my fair share of sexual encounters due to this particular fake-out. It's confusing when you encounter it. The next time I encountered it, I blasted through it and she really loved the sex. You should never take a woman's initial response as set in stone. It changes depending on her mood and feelings. Even more so if you catch her during ovulation where most of her resistance is gone anyway. That's why next time they say no, put your tongue on her g-spot. Sh… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 04:42 AM |
| 2 | How does the game change from 30-40 ?Nothing really changes after 35, although after having so much sex by this point you're probably wondering if it's all a waste of time if you're not having kids as a result of it all. Maybe you even want to be a father. That may tempt you to consider marriage, but as a married guy I can tell you that marriage is a huge price to pay. And that's even when your wife is a complete angel - as the living situation and the financial stress will just frustrate you and keep you locked down and bored - wo… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 01:13 AM |
| 7 | Is it a good sign if a girls vents with you or is it a sign she sees you as a friend?Would they cry and dump all their problems on the man they are having sex with? There's your answer. As nice as you are being, she is going to associate you with the negative feelings of all her problems. That's why you have to cut her off. Can't you just get her to talk about all her powerful and dark sexual fantasies with you? | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Question to all the guys who actively get lucky with girlsIf you're not succeeding it's because you haven't failed enough yet. | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 12:57 AM |
| 3 | 10 Months of Successful Dating in New York City: A Summary and AnalysisDefinitely being based in NYC (or any other major capital city around the world) is definitely going to ramp your numbers. A lot of struggling guys are living in a suburban house in a place where the population isn't much above 1 million, and where most of those are retirees. The takeaway here is the professional photography on the dating app. Made a huge difference IMHO. Your logistics really works for you. You're probably in a really accessible location. I typically invited women to a small ba… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 12:55 AM |
| 3 | Girls want you to take action!!Going down on her will steamroll any resistance. If you get that far, work her out with your tongue for a while and try again. If she's on her period and self-conscious about it, you'll find out when you go in this direction. Don't stop when she says "no" while breathlessly squirming. Some women want to feel as if they are resisting as part of their fantasy of being "overpowered" by a man who is so turned on by her that he can't stop himself. Also they don't want to show that they are slutty (ev… | /r/seduction | 07/04/22 12:13 AM |
| 6 | You must guard your inner dialogue relentlessly"The power of your subconscious mind" By Joseph Murphy An absolute "must read". | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Biggest confidence boost?Knowing that what it is that you are doing to seduce a woman - and that it is effective - is the biggest confidence boost you can have. | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 04:46 AM |
| 79 | Girls want you to take action!!Women are mostly passive. You will need to lead and they (if they are willing) should follow. This goes from everything from the initial approach, to logistically getting her back to your place (or hers), and you getting her clothes off. Now there are some rare situations where the girl is just ready to go and openly active in getting both of you to the bedroom. It can happen if she is in the right sexual state of mind (which hopefully you created), or it's just that time of month and she's thro… | /r/seduction | 06/04/22 04:38 AM |
| 1 | is this a shit test?Getting numbers sucks. You should give yours and get her to chase. If she does not chase, who cares? you move on with your life and don't have a number to play with - which ensures that you don't waste any time on her. You didn't seduce her. Sorry you only get an initial impression and shot at this, and you didn't steer the conversation into areas which would fascinate her or arouse her imagination in any potential sexual direction. The boyfriend this is a test. I would ask her if he likes watch… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 08:17 AM |
| 5 | Do you need social media for modern dating?Social media and tinder - if that's all you are using - severely cripple your interactions with women. For one, on-line is a great place for casual sex, but not a lot more - plus the algorithms employed by the "relationship mafia" ensure that the majority of men on it will get absolutely nowhere - and that's by design. Last thing they want are people leaving the gambling table because they found a happy relationship. Second, you can't really use seduction language on them - or at least you miss … | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 08:00 AM |
| 22 | Looks, money or social status?Money - but only because it frees you up from a day job and gives you TIME, which is the most valuable commodity you can have when it comes to meeting women. | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Took a PUA bootcamp but it didn't change anythingWomen are turned on by WHO the man is. Mick Jagger could not do a course of picking up women, because what would he say? "Just walk in the room and pick a groupie"? Trying to emulate what Mick Jagger does will not work - because you are not him! Similarly, you are not the PUA guru so trying to make yourself like them isn't going to work either. The ONLY way to get things beyond the ordinary responses you are getting is to learn to talk to women seductively to get them turned on. If you don't kno… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 02:01 AM |
| 10 | [deleted by user]I think you probably just need a holiday. After COVID I think everyone is going to need one. This social isolation BS has mentally screwed up a lot of people. If you're having little to no success in your surroundings, go to where you're more appreciated. If you're living out in Bumhole Idaho you're never going to meet anyone - at least not to the volume you need to properly calibrate your social skills. Additionally you will probably burn through the entire population or gain a reputation. In a… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Flirting with “Low Self Esteem” WomenOne thing you can say is "How dare you tell me what I should find attractive?" ;) Direct compliment can be resisted however. You are better of saying things indirect ones like "I like girls who are beautiful, so I thought I'd come over and say hi" The other thing you need to be aware of is that telling her she is beautiful is that this is not going to get her turned on. What DOES turn women on is thinking about a hot guy, or her ideal man - and *THAT* should be the topic of conversation. Get her… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Best replies to those girls who doesn't follow you back...A lot of women simply love attention from men they aren't interested in. You don't reward attention-seekers with more attention. You cut them off. | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 01:15 AM |
| 1 | When you're rejected, would you prefer the real reason or given a cliche easy let down reason?Doing things properly, women don't "reject" you. They just stop talking to you and move on. Or ghost you. I have had some nasty attempts at put downs in the past (eg. "That's something only a guy trying to hit on me would say" to which I replied "You can believe whatever you want to believe" and left), but those women were idiots in hindsight and really not worth worrying about. Plenty of stupid women out there... If you're putting all women on a pedestal (which you shouldn't do), you might be f… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 12:52 AM |
| -1 | 2 sides of the coin 🤔The difference is serious hard work. Constantly going out (even when they don't feel like it), learning as much as possible, and pushing themselves. It also includes having sex with women you aren't 100% attracted to. Drop your standards and watch your success rate increase. After a while of juggling multiple girlfriends/partners you actually want to take a break from it. You begin feeling like a man-whore - and that you're putting in a lot of work for the benefit of women. It's a pretty good pl… | /r/seduction | 05/04/22 12:44 AM |
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