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yes the risks are negligble. contraceptives exist. are you new? you dont have to have a baby every time you have sex which is a very contemporary development. you can have a condom, plan b, and abortion. in the past men had to earn sex by proving to be good providers, women had to filter men by this standard because children were so likely. now they dont, now they can filter by sex appeal because there are no risks associated with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:50 PM
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the risks are negligble, women can filter men on other qualities thanks to contraceptives they prefer like being tall and handsome as opposed to a good provider. very well studied phenomenon. men used to *have* to demonstrate that capability to be a father. now its chad or nothing for women because there are no risks for sex. Males of other species with similar arrangements have little issue living with that reality. can you give some examples? this seems like a gross misunderstanding and dare i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:31 PM
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what sexual skills? women dont have to do anything during sex but lay there. inb4 incel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:45 AM
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it 100% means they are more prevalent because their behavior goes unpunished and uncorrected because it is filtered through their looks. Average looking and ugly people get shamed for their bad behavior more often and it is a scientific fact. Attractive people go underpunished and unpunished more often and so they get away with a lot of asshole behaviors because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:53 AM
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no one said anything about antisocial. you are shifting the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:38 AM
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im not ignoring anyone. more attractive people get lighter punishment in courts and has been proven. They are less likely to be reprimanded for bad behavior because of the halo affect. What seperates awkward from creepy is how attractive you are. ergo, creepy behavior by a pretty person goes uncorrected because its interpreted as awkward or flirty as opposed to creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:29 AM
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more attractive people are more likely to be assholes statstically
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:25 AM
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It definitely happens so does women raping kids. your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:23 PM
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betraying or abandoning their friends for some pussy men dont do this. exclusively a female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:19 PM
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I have been studying women's social behavior and the amount of policing women do of one another is aboslutely vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:10 PM
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They’re representative of dateable women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:39 PM
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Many men are invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:32 PM
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Where are you getting that assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:32 PM
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so youre saying no one has left a relationship better than before they entered it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:07 AM
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relationships fix people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:25 AM
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yeah nearly every woman was a staunch monarchist during the french revolution. once it was obvious the revolutionaries were winning, it swung overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:37 AM
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holy delusional strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:26 AM
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You’re too far gone if you have to ask this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:45 PM
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Men make a snap decision about whether women are sluts who are only good for a fuck casual misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:40 PM
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good discussion, I think its touchy because people interpret a need as a right, therefore calling it a need means you are entitled to another person's body, which isnt where were going with this. I find the "a need is something you cant live without" argument reductive because its so cookie cutter. Safety isnt a need either, the real need would be not being killed. Just like food, you wont die without food, you die without nutrients which we can give through IV. You dont "need" lungs you "need" …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:39 AM
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It isn't a need if you can go without it on what time frame? you can go without water.... for days. so water wouldnt be a need by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:24 AM
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you just dont understand anything about being a man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:52 AM
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men do jerk off, like all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:21 AM
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in a lot of cases it would be implicit/unknown to the individual, like who a lot of women have male validation issues but swear up and down that they don’t care about men. It has merit, but OP suggests that other men do care about other men's sex life when that is just not the case. Its more of trying to attack men's insecurities than a genuine observation. I would honestly say men would have female validation issues, so try to have sex with lots of women, and that wouldve been a good argument. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:20 AM
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Easy to say that when you're not in a social scenario where it's relevant. its easy to say regardless of the context. what kind of thinking is this? You realize socializing is not some weird hierarchy RPG game right? This feels like woman-centric social behavior being forced onto men. I have never actually had my virginity attacked or used against me in real life. it is exclusively an online phenomenon. As we all know, men are the sex known to care about their personal safety and not do dumb ill…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:14 AM
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I dont care what other men think, so there goes your whole argument. prostitues are dangerous, unsafe, and often times morally wrong and illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:43 PM
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making a woman safe and comfortable does not mean she will have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:30 PM
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not really. and thats not what men are doing anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:20 PM
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men arent being picky at all. its women being picky, as i have told you. and you seem to agree by saying "so what if men arent picky?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:18 PM
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my comment doesnt display anything because you know nothing about me. And yet you still don’t want to talk accountability and admit to picking a bad women. I will take accountability when you take accountability for DV Men tend to like women who mistreat them, as evidenced by your comment an others. casual misandrist generalization This is vengeful language. no its not. you know nothing about me. you picked a woman who wasn’t that into you because she was hot. who said she was hot? you’re bitter…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:17 PM
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so youre just gonna contradict your entire premise in OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:13 PM
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So? Shit happens. Same thing happened to be and HE KNEW THAT ABOUT IT. So anything. Like seriously, wtf is this reply? I can just reply "So? Shit happens" to literally anything you say ever. its a non-response. a failure to engage in critical thinking. Why even open a thread if you just sling shit at any kind of discussion with dismissiveness No you don't. yes, i do. If the window that a woman is willing to give you sex is so ridiculously small, like only a few days a year, you better be ready w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:11 PM
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it doesnt sound like anything because reddit threads dont have audio. "Get revenge on all women" lol touch grass, where do you even get this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:02 PM
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I made this girl wait for sex because I wanted to move slower and she slept with a different guy the next night and blocked me. I would be fine waiting for sex if it wasnt going to be weaponized against me and that it was eventually more or less guaranteed. But it never is, so its get it while you can or not at all. I have to be opportunistic for sex the way women use sex as a tool over men. Im not going to waste my time for months for a girl that is constantly wishy washy with sex and then even…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:52 PM
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"So you're (strawman)?" why is this style of rhetoric so common on reddit? so bizzare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:25 AM
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this entire thread is basically 50+ women typing multiple paragraphs about how much they dont care. A serious irony
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:30 PM
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How is MGTOW a net negative? It creates a safer community with less interruptions to our day from men. how is it creating a safer community? You do realize unmarried men are much more likely to be violent right? In fact most violent uprisings are preceded by men being unable to find work and love. Anecdotally, I approach women alot and 90% of them love being approached and talked to. Maybe sour redditors think this way? If men really wanted to up their game and go away by quitting their jobs and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:26 PM
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What OP is saying is that mgtow will be a net negative for everyone and that you should definitely care if society becomes worse off. Like saying you don’t care about assault because you personally are not being assaulted so it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:42 PM
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Its almost as if any large group are diverse in character and belief. Practically RP would be more diverse because it can incorpate any gender which women as a group cannot. with that being said, what you are doing here is listening to the loudest and most sour voices of RP and assuming literally every other RP person agrees, which is just the most 100iq hurdle I can imagine. You're a democrat no? so that means you agree with all democrat leaders, including slave owning democrats of the 1800s an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:40 AM
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I’ve existed long before RP and can tell you that’s BS. we all have I can only speak for myself because I’m not every woman. I am very direct. so you can paint "all red pill" but I cant paint "all women." Nor do you address the fact that not listening to what women say they want all the time is actually valid advice from RP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:33 AM
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All of these “points” that RP tries to offer are fairly common-sense. they are fairly common-sense *because* of redpill. redpill changed that. If they actually want a partnership (which is questionable) they would value the opinions and thoughts of the people they might actually want to end up with Isnt there that thing between what women say they want and what they actually want? Like they print out a list of requirements and then not get with a guy that meets most or any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:29 AM
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also rapunzel
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:44 PM
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I can’t believe how openly women talk about height around men. “He was 6 2” “but he was 5 4” and it always gets brought up around me coincidentally. Imagine if I talked about women’s bodies like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:06 PM
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if not for the sexual revolution, would sophie rain have any millions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:38 AM
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75% of women want to be cold approached but they will all reject you if you do. It seems like they just want the ego stroke of being liked rather than actually wanting romance. Maybe it’s because he’s not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:18 PM
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“ even a quoted myth that we don't desire men or like sex” Maybe in the 50s or something? The conversation is completely on its head. Men are spending years and thousands of dollars to make themselves as sexually appealing to women as possible. “Looksmaxxing” and “they only want Chad (a sexy man stereotype)” like the pendulum has swung the complete opposite way. It’s honestly a bizarre conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:13 PM
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Effeminate men appear to have worse dating outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:04 PM
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People liking to interact with you does not equate to good social skills. You would have to admit clavicular or old perverted rich men have good social skills, and any other scenario I can come up with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:44 AM
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I don’t know how you can come to this when 80% of men are not getting swipes at all on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:42 AM
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jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:21 PM
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I had a sneaking suspicion when filth started doing that unimpeded that it was a mod on a different account, most mods on the list look inactive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:18 AM
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Mods just don’t care. They need to ban people like this and filthofbabylon who pioneered these asinine posts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:38 AM
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What a hateful post, strawman and misandry? Double whammy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:37 AM
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OP outlines plenty of ways women could do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:25 PM
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convince all men lost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:24 PM
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dating is a woman's domain. they are never going to give that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:44 PM
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ironic because youre at a higher risk of intimate partner violence, the thing you finger wag so much about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:31 AM
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then dont date. its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:32 AM
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simply pointing out the commentor was factually incorrect in saying there is less assault risk for men, there is actually more assault risk for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:57 AM
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I dont think Gen Z were socially acclimated for dating, so people who have adverse life outcomes whom would have had dating success in previous generations because they were socialized, do not now. And that creates animosity. Daddy issues, abused, mental illnesses, unhealthy lifestyles - all of these affected your dating chances but didnt prevent it. Now it feels the other way around. If you lack social skills and have a negative life outcome you are screwed. I genuinely cannot see a female as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:56 AM
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Men are disproportionately affected by assaults. Men are assaulted waayy more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:39 AM
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what subs do you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:34 PM
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im not talking about subs so im not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:27 PM
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so youre not here to debate the premise. thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:01 PM
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this is a debate post, were here to debate the premise in the title, do you have anything to say about the debate, or?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:47 PM
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I have nowhere else to process my grievances, or have explainations for why women in my real life treat me certain ways. because I cant go up to a girl that rejected me and figure out why, or talk meaningfully to my friends about dating. Most people irl do not care to talk about dating, especially if they have no problem with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:32 PM
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inb4 "well then dont do it" replies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:20 PM
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no. what a dumb and reductive thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:44 AM
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The problem is it’s not actually men as a whole it’s the sub set of the male population that women can’t stop fucking. So when she is ready for real dating the guy is rightfully pissed that she wants to play all the dating games just like every girl he’s met while all these girls got to have all the sex with the same set of men that she thinks he belongs to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:16 AM
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That cuts both ways, men are still drafted for wars because they are expected to fight for example. But I’m not here to compare struggles. Life was not wholly run by and for men. It was for a select few rulers who were men. In fact, the biggest threat to those rulers were men so no, it was not men as the arbiters of life, it was the ruling class that were mostly men, who specifically went after the average man because they posed the biggest threat to a rulers power.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:33 AM
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None of the men alive today experienced or contributed to the male dominance that existed for thousands of years so to say “how does it feel now?” Is ridiculous, which male dominance is already a false idea because matriarchal societies did and do exist. But to say men were the default arbiters of life is just plain wrong and dare I say sexist anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:08 AM
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Who said the people bothering you would be the same people to use a sex bot? And who said that would make them stop bothering you? Lots of holes in your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:44 PM
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If it didn’t matter you would not have made a point about it making things somehow better for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:03 PM
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These men clearly desire sex above literally all forms of communication with women says who? how did you come to that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:02 PM
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a man needing sexual release is not the same has him seeing women as only for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:52 PM
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women will have a much better time dating the men who subscribe to the radical notion that women are people. you would in reality have a worse time dating because so many ordinary men check out and you are left with so few men who likely wont pick you because they are flush with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:49 PM
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You think it’s just fat incel losers who would go down this path but you’d be surprised how many people you consider ordinary that would get this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:29 PM
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“The youth” already have dysfunctional understandings of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:28 PM
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if reaching out to a struggling incel and supporting them guaranteed that a school shooting would not occur, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:49 PM
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If reaching out to an angry and toxic person and supporting them guaranteed that a mass shooting would not occur, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:44 PM
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is water wet ass question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:40 PM
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you already do by paying taxes which subsidizes support for all people, including ones you dont like. its called the social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:39 PM
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ah yes, we only help people that align with our values. how... selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:37 PM
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we do actually have to concern ourselves with the well being of one another in society. Not even a controversial or new idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:36 PM
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even a 1% decrease of the population has serious ramifications for the QoL of the rest. saying "fuck them" is selfish. Do you say that to the disabled people? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:32 PM
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Idk, I was raised that way because that’s what the internet and everyone said to do, don’t focus on women. I think it just makes it worse by not acknowledging love is a core part of life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:31 PM
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whereas (most) men need women verbatim what you said. for sex, no less: men need women for their warm/tight/moist holes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:34 AM
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i think its funny you define men needing women's bodies as a need because its apparently sexist and entitled if i say sex is a need for men. But again, OP said, if you cared to read, that the "happiness" women feel alone is as fake as you seem to describe mens' alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:24 AM
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it doesnt need to be a perfect imitation, just like the sources women use to be happy alone are not perfect imitations of men or what men provide. There are already men content using porn and toys. OP argues as technology advances (i.e. artifical surrogacy), so does the amount of men able to entertain themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:08 AM
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do you actually have a rebuttal or?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:44 AM
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you lost lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:43 AM
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So how people regularly treat ugly/fat/old women? Not saying that men aren't turned down if they don't meet certain standards, but the same is true for women. not nearly to the same degree. Men have lower standards for women than women do for men. As a man, it is much harder to overcome those standards set by women than vice versa. Its why all those ugly/fat/old women on average have had relationships as opposed to the male equivalent. However, when you've got the loudest voices in the "sad and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:27 AM
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i would very much like to be in this scenario yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:27 PM
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show me how western media has gaslighted asians having feminine features
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:08 AM
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i hope this comes true in my scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:40 AM
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asians are smaller and have more feminine features than other races. This is why asian women are often fetishized and asian men are emasculated. Its really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:37 AM
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PPD reflects real life. you read a book and want to relate it to everything, how much literature have you read about culture over subculture instead of subculture over culture? Your evidence is an anecdote too I don't see that IRL OK? I do, so what now? dating has absolutely changed and what is expressed here are beliefs a lot of people hold, either consicously or subconsciously. Its one of the defining traits of my generation unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:18 PM
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you are a really vile person
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:35 PM
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you write like an entitled lunatic. seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:11 PM
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But men want us to be ok with being used for sex without love and knowing our valie in society decreases as women for having sex with men why are you tying your value to your body count? I see it preached everyday on reddit that if a man cares about your body count he isnt for you, i.e. its not love. A "real man" wouldnt care. But since you do still subscribe to low body count = good woman, the flip-side is that low body count men are seen as undesirable. Women rely on other women to validate me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:19 PM
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I appreciate women’s attention more because it isn’t threatening thats funny because lesbians come in first for intimate partner violence They can appreciate the efforts put into an outfit without wanting to fuck me. men totally do this btw, youre just blindly sexist. Not that a man wanting to fuck you is somehow a moral or personal failing of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:09 PM
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i guess youre gay then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:55 PM
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ah yes... only men enjoy sex....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:50 PM
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there is far more bad dating advice than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:47 PM
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Should they walk around in hijabs and full coverings to hide their curves and other sexy features because other men have eyes? is that what i said?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:41 PM
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feel good when they dress like that. yeah.... because other men are looking....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:06 PM
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a wife at a minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:31 PM
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it shouldnt matter where im visiting. if i have to dedicate 10x the resources it usually isnt worth it. again, back to my original comment: "I shouldnt have to move to find a viable partner."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:48 PM
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youre missing the point. not to mention that is a terrible, actually malicious idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:41 PM
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not from my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:16 PM
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I dont think this is exclusive to where you live. the general trend is an aversion to leaving the house across the world. I shouldnt have to move to find a viable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:11 PM
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Tldr, please. Im not watching some random dude’s opinion. not my problem. you spend too much time on ppd to not spend at least a little bit actually learning about dating from professionals instead of spewing your usual nonsense You should go to those places to socialize. so were back tracking now? it was "good women dont go to those places" now its "you shouldnt go there for women anyways?" talk about shifting the goal post. at least you admitted women dont leave the house anymore. I’d recommen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:03 PM
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In fiction, absolutely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vIQJK2pDg heres a clinical psychologist discussing the phenomenon of most women wanting bad boys. Depends what you’re calling indoors. Because hoping you’ll find someone actually into good guys at a wild party is kind of crazy. it actually doesnt. anywhere you go really. Library, coffee shops, school clubs, hobby groups, bars. The women just arent there. They are hiding indoors scrolling on their phones because they dont need men and can …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:23 PM
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most women want bad boys. few women want good boys. And besides, most women that *do* want good men are locking themselves indoors most of the time so you cant meet them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:00 PM
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yes. Its also more palatable to say family over gf/wife even though one is contingent on the other
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:59 PM
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this. ive lost all motivation because of the real possibility i will never have a gf or start a family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:43 AM
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anecdotal fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:49 AM
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right? alot of the animosity is underneath. I guess they dont believe in gravity because they cant "see" that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:42 AM
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You are living under a rock then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:17 AM
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One is asking for intimate access to other people’s bodies , the other is asking for autonomy over their own bodies. you are the contemptious woman OP is talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:16 AM
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would like to hear women's inputs on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:50 AM
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you aren't looking for friendships with people, just relationships with women. and? whats wrong with that? Women here tell me not to make friends with women just to try and date them. So i wont, my intentions are clear like they say they want. And besides, im so far behind that looking at a girl as a friend over potential partner is impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:24 AM
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the evidence suggests it is only getting worse. Younger men are worse off romantically, less sex, less relationships. There is really too much information, you cant develop your own thoughts and feelings on issues or how to solve them. not to mention not all information is good. That's more of an observation of the internet in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:01 AM
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Ask ChatGPT and stop wasting bandwidth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:26 PM
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who said im sticking to my comfort zone? did you read my post? im going basically everywhere and doing everything. No, actually, I dont care about underwater basket weaving or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:54 PM
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Im pretty sure taller men are more likely to be in relationships which is enough to conlude women prefer taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:51 PM
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so i should pretend to be into things im not into to get girls? got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:18 PM
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hobby groups are dying. I can only really have so many hobbies. Even then, i have to hope my hobbies align with women and not 99% dudes. Even then, I have to hope those hobby spaces exist, which they rarely do. Even then, I have to hope the 10-20 people I see regularly contain available women, which they rarely do. Even then, I have to hope she is interested in me, which they never are. Its basically a meaningless pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:56 AM
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Pink flair, unflattering picture of trump, your general prose and style of writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:19 PM
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This wall of text is what I mean when I say women don’t understand. You would not have written any of this if you understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:52 PM
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what u/Suspicious_Glove7365 said was disgusting, since were just going to attack each other, i figured i would help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:36 PM
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they said at first glance. that mean irl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:27 PM
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i dont really care & youre missing the point i made
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:24 PM
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if i have to read that disgusting comment you have to read mine
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:19 PM
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I dont think women understand, 99 rejections is enough to cause serious mental distress. Women dont need to approach to get a relationship, men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:11 PM
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women regularly rape children
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:09 PM
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is that what i said boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:56 PM
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its the silver lining boy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:41 PM
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I dont think it is a problem in it of itself. Im sure you know where im going, but i think it would hint at a deeper problem. Any woman worth any man's time would have already had sex. I dont include women virgins by virtue of a serious other issue in the count. By mid 20s, most virgin men have nothing inherently wrong with them. Most virgin women I would say do at that same age. So there is essentially no way to meet a virgin woman as a virgin man, not that a virgin man is desirable anyways to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:10 PM
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the point I am trying to make is that I think two virgins would make a lovelier and healthier relationship but virgin men are seen as undesirable whereas virgin women are the opposite. To the point where the virgin outnumber virgin men by mid 20s by I can only estimate 1:5 and women decide relationships or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:52 PM
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I have no idea how you got to that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:49 PM
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Do you think alot of women share your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:46 PM
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I think the dynamic is low body count women are attractive and high body count men are attractive. Most virgin men do not have a choice of their partners, they have to be chosen. I would love a virgin myself but at my age that is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:45 PM
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I (and most men for that matter) dont have the luxury of sleeping around
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:43 PM
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it actually has to do with a shared experience and bonding. Sharing your first time with the loyl is something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:04 PM
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How do you reconcile that most people are there to do the hobby not meet their husbands? If the hobby group has any available women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:03 PM
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what makes a guy your type to tolerate an approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:59 PM
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More and more women aren’t looking to meet a man at all anymore Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:36 AM
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Do you think it goes both ways? I can see a case to not lead someone on, but also be open to talk. Rejection hurts either way. I think the neccesity to approach is a symptom of the internet, because the success rate is abysmal. I think sharing a space where you talk is how it was supposed to happen but that doesnt exist. Everyone goes somewhere then sits on their phone or laptop with ear buds in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:33 AM
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an aversion to being approached or have contempt for men. how common do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:25 AM
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has it actually worked for you? going to bars for guys, i mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:59 AM
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can you be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:34 AM
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Ive tried bars, they are a wash for me. out of say 100 people at a bar, 50 are women (it's ususally less by I digress). of that 50, 30 may be compatible (age, size) of that 30, 10 are there single, of that 10, maybe 5 are open to a relationship, of that 5, 1 is actually approachable (not cornered off with friends) and that one is usually unreceptive to me. I dont see that as viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:31 AM
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Ive approached at most of those places and I get a serious cold shoulder from all of them. There's alot of social pressure at some of these places to conform. Like, people go to the gym to work out not look for dates. People go to the library to study quietly not chit chat. People go to the bar to hang out with friends not meet guys. Theres a numbers dynamic where the gender ratios are so out of whack at some of these places that its impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:28 AM
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Why is it socially unacceptable? It's quite distressing. Maybe society needs to change
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:53 PM
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so youre sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:52 PM
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the burden of proof is on you, you said women generally work much harder on relationships. I want you to explain why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:38 PM
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but *why* do women do it more? saying women do it more by virtue of being better people naturally that's sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:25 PM
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conditonal empathy is not empathy, that's virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:33 PM
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there are factors outside of one's control that the "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" cannot overcome
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:53 PM
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Ah yes, like for the word incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:35 PM
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Men dont owe you the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:07 PM
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awww immoral big bad wolves out to get you. Oh no theyre gonna ask for sex and you might give it to them! oh the horror! Ah well, at least it wont be your fault when you get used, right? that'll show them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:06 PM
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Im simply operating off the same logic women apply to men, if that's sad to you, try being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:00 PM
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Says the one spending enough of their enriched life to spend it arguing with incels on the internet to manage to get a flair for it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:58 PM
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Fault means someone is responsible for a wrongdoing. "When I use a word" Said humpty dumpty, "It means just what I choose it to mean - neither more or less!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:57 PM
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you're welcome, enjoy your miserable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:53 PM
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Newsflash, women already do. welcome to being a man, girliepop. Be glad you dont do it full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:51 PM
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just like it's all women's fault when they choose bad men and get knocked up, knocked out, played, and ditched.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:50 PM
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you better get good at recognizing ill intentions sweetheart because you're gonna run into people who want to take something from you for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:48 PM
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You are responsible for your own actions. Can't handle the consequences? Think before you fuck. Think of it like this, a scammer calls you and steals all your money. It doesnt matter what the scammer "should" do, it matters what you do. You cant control the scammer anyways, you can only control yourself and your own actions. Do better. Suck at telling the difference between good and bad men? that's your own fault for being terrible at vetting. Read a book or take some classes if you suck that ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:46 PM
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it doesnt matter, you are responsible for your own actions. let a guy have sex? that's on you. It is 100% your responsibilty to ensure you get the dating outcome you want. If you don't, you have no one but yourself to blame. Maybe, hear me out, choose better? Maybe you could have him invest in you.... Gah, what am I saying? keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:41 PM
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to that point of compatibilty; people often measure it with looks, status, money, etc. i.e. I am incompatible with short people, broke people, ugly people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:18 AM
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"there is no blue pill ideology" then goes on to tell us what blue pill ideology is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:54 PM
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your username makes this so ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:25 AM
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stop it youre scaring them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:58 PM
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I'll accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:38 AM
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"I saw an ugly person have sex therefore ALL ugly people can have sex!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:36 AM
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The truth people who struggle don’t like to hear is there probably is more that they can do. It's just another "thing" people assign, every person has the "truth" that people dont like to hear, every person thinks they have the final answer the people have been looking for. It's more bootstrapping. "Pick yourself up by your bootstraps" If you're failing at dating, it's your own fault. Except there are immutable barriers that completely remove dating as an option for you. It's a gradient. We acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:30 AM
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My opinion being accepted hinges on my looks? is that not ironic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:24 AM
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"Please answer my rhetorical question"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:22 AM
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The issue is that plenty of men check all of your talking points and still fail, because we ignore looks which everything is contingent on that being accepted first and foremost. Dating is not a meritocracy, when you postulate that doing all the things leads to dating success, and it doesn't, and you continue to insist that it is a personal failing, you are hurting people. Im being serious when I say I have jumped through an infinite amount of hoops to make myself appealing. I have followed it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:19 AM
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I dont think you can obtain top commenter while also contributing meaningfully, like in no world are you a net benefit for the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:14 AM
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I would be open to limiting it to one day a week for looks post. a bunch of acne-prone incels are sitting behind computer screens talking about women they never could get in the first place I dont really know what youre getting at
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:01 AM
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I actually think top commenters should be banned, because how do you manage to pour so much time and words into the debate sub and not solve anything? Like, do you really believe PPD is a good sub where issues are being addressed? Because that is the minority opinion. Ergo, you being a top contributer and PPD being a terrible place for good discussion is correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:46 AM
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I understand the reasoning, but I think it's exclusion entirely is harmful as well, it's too truthful to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:43 AM
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No "we" didnt, I see it every time. It's ignored every discussion. top commenters and posters manage to spam endlessly and never actually resolve the debate, ergo contribute nothing. How do you manage to contribute so much and change so little
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:43 AM
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its evident that you are doing something wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:15 AM
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you cant consciously not do an action, thats not how actions work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:44 AM
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we could start by you giving examples of what you mean instead
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:10 AM
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Only dating tall men is hypergamous. Also, you can follow all the dating advice in the world to a t and still not have success because dating is not a meritocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:11 PM
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This is very true. Women are incredibly harsh to each other. women's standards in dating are dictated more by their peers and competitors than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:31 AM
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This doesnt address OP's concern that him treating men and women as equals has lead to a failure in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:22 AM
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hot take
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:19 AM
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I don’t have a problem with that definition
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:16 AM
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this is reddit, there is such a thing as an incorrect and bad opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:00 PM
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The concept of having to do anytbing also just ruins the whole thing for me. I think this is hilarious to even write. You have to *try* in dating? Shocker! /s The default assumption for men is that if you do not try you will not succeed. It is as true as a universal law like gravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:27 AM
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women are not required to grow up like men are. they can exist as peter pans, adult children who can off-load emotions onto men like they did to their dads in childhood. They say women's type is their dads and this is a saying for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:38 AM
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Men dont get the luxury of choosing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:14 PM
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instead of debating op, you go to a third party website to view what he has posted on reddit in the past 7 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:18 AM
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my fault
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:12 AM
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Guy was simply stating a reality for vast majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:22 PM
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yeah i bet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:29 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:39 PM
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OP is a registered misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:01 AM
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think about what is interesting to you and imagine that man having all of it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:53 AM
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and then everyone clapped
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:39 AM
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We really dont know our own biology that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 03:25 AM
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shots fired
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:21 PM
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men dont want cold emotionless sex that is literally what OP is saying if you can pick up on that or maybe thats too tall of an ask for the average PPD poster. You admitted prostitution is cold and emotionless for men, that is what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:06 PM
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She doesn't like you nor is attracted to you and probably actively dislikes you but the money will make her pretend to sorta like you enough to give you sex you basically answered your own question why not just pay women for sex? If its so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:55 PM
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I agree OP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:56 PM
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TRUE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:21 PM
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what does life post romance look like for you? What are you doing outside of the romantic relationship thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:32 AM
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rejection hurts a lot and I dont think our brains were meant to handle this much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:46 AM
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Most people don't care about anyone's problems. youre just so wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:34 AM
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Women still filter dating through height which says it all about "not wanting the protective alpha." I mean, women here cant stop saying how dangerous and risky men are to date, why would she NOT make that her criteria? It also flies in the face of every woman I talk to because they ALL want someone who can protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:28 AM
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I don’t care about your feelings Yes we know you don't care about anyone's feelings we got that part The OP made a debate post on whether it should be difficult to get laid or not. No OP didn't. He made a debate post that it shouldn't be *this* difficult, not that it shouldn't be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:04 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:59 AM
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yeah women tend to compare men's mental health to toe stubbing as per usual of the "more empathetic gender" why shouldn’t it be difficult and who is supposed to make it easier? I dont particularly care one way or another but the emotions sexual rejection from society does to men is incredibly distressing and that typically expresses itself in self-harm and suicide, because men actually kill themselves when they can't take it anymore. Oh wait maybe I should consult you, the woman, on my own feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:57 AM
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I disagree most conversations about safety revolve around the man protecting her from others which is why height is such a heavily filtered trait. Why would a woman interested in protecting herself from her partner ensure she get's the biggest partner that would cause the most possible harm to her in a risky situation with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:49 AM
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OP literally said he feels he will never have sex in his life and you paraphrase it as "sad because it’s hard to get laid" imagine if I called rape victims sad they had sex when they didn't want to since sex is such a low and meaningless thing apparently. Depression? anxiety? complicated emotional cocktails from lack of romantic success and child hood trauma? oops ur just sad you cant get your dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:46 AM
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if you cannot find the value of empathy in itself you simply don't understand interpersonal relationships well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:42 AM
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it was a good idea to back down like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:53 PM
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isn't this how natural selection works? no this is sexual selection
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:41 PM
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holy insensitivity. walk a mile in someone else's shoes, called empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:40 PM
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it is. You can't disagree with what I said so you must invent something to fixate on to have an excuse to not engage. It is just world, here is what you said: It seems like self-selection. People who would prefer an AI partner aren't people who would make a good partner to humans in the first place. I.e. bad people are having bad thing happen to them, and that is good. Good luck, you are actually making things worse for literally everyone by being such a loser. get well soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:54 PM
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choosing the easy way out, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:31 PM
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An AI relationship appeals to a very specific type of person says who? Demand for this will be big and not everyone who will use it is an undateable person, that is fact. It really is a just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:36 PM
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Good reply. I tried to be very open-minded and gender neutral in the OP but people immediately gendered this. I see demand from both sexes. It could make people more reasonable. "I better be more approachable or he'll go talk to that robot", but I doubt it. If general interactions are applied, most men only amount to favors or free therapy. And women amount to sex and intimacy. Which is why it's the last thing either wants to do for each other. I think it will ease a lot of tension people have. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:31 PM
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People who would prefer an AI partner aren't people who would make a good partner to humans in the first place. Can you elaborate as to why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:14 PM
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you are betting on this only appealing to men you dont find attractive when in reality a lot of people that would be considered good partners are going to use this. It goes from "people with some flaws that can be worked on" to "people with some flaws completely checked out." Honestly, I knew people would subscribe to the purity/no true scotsman fallacy when I posted this. "Hmmph! Anyone who would buy this is an undateable loser so nothing changes! We win again!" like you can tell if someone is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:01 PM
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Good luck OP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:44 PM
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I am still waiting for you to reference someone that says pregnancy causes substantial harm. are you trying to claim those things are not objectively injuries? no if you had weeks of internal bleeding after the fact, you would consider that to be an injury, would you not? so why is it any different when it comes to pregnancy? pregnancy does not cause substantial harm. Full stop. Pregnancy does not cause injuries, what it looks like is you want to equate pregnancy with injuries during child birth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:03 PM
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pregnancy causes substantial harm according to whom? this isnt a substantive claim. or do you not think having your vagina torn open or stomach and major organs sliced into, followed by weeks of internal bleeding, counts as injury? you are way too dramatic. Have you given birth? Everyone I have spoken to do not regret giving birth. It is unsettling to me that you view pregnancy as this morbid wound in such detail. Kind of a sick thing to write, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:54 PM
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women in general need to get over this therapy speak and HRification of dating. You are not an authority figure on what life is like for a man. You don't know what my or millions of other men's lives are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:36 PM
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All of your analogies use injuries which leads the reader to the conclusion that society helps people who are injured because of their own behavior. You extrapolate this to mean that we shall give women abortion for pregnancies that occured due to their own behavior, which to be consistent with your examples you gave would mean pregnancy is an injury. you are implying that as a deductive argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:34 PM
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Some men need casual sex to be healthy, and you cannot decide which do or don't. ergo, everything you said is meaningless and you accept that some men need casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:32 PM
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Pregnancy is not an injury. It is a natural bodily process.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:29 PM
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Youre being very dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:22 PM
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men need a certain amount of sex to be healthy, yes. You already agree: having options and exercising them does take sex off a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:20 PM
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lobster too buttery, steak too juicy kind of post
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:00 PM
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If no one finds you attractive here in the states, they certainly aren't going to find you attractive in other countries. why not? are you saying the people in the united states are the same as people everywhere and have the same preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:52 PM
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Not making your position clear, and thus convenient to clarify later in a discussion when you see fit, is dubious. I will not entertain that. It is not worth my time, youve already wasted enough. Have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:49 AM
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A simple yes or no will do. I'm not going to elaborate unless you answer. I'm not going to waste my time with someone being ambiguous and pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:35 AM
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being blackpill incel doesn't really help build trust that you don't plan carving out that space at cost of our human rights. To me, it is scary you view black pill incel as automatically against human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:08 PM
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First and foremost, do you disagree with the statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:25 PM
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I think mental health care as well as all health care should be absolutely free for everyone. Public dating events. Like state sponsored? I think we need to have more free or cheap third spaces. How would we enforce restricting screen time? I also think people need to get off of the internet more and interact in person more. I was simply spit balling ideas. I dont really think its important to discuss solutions yet because you cant even mention there is a problem without a ton of push back. Ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:47 PM
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So what is your solution? free counseling, public dating events, restrictions on screen time. Just spit balling ideas. Maybe on an individual level we could be more accepting and empathetic to these people who are very likely upset that they will be spending the rest of their lives alone? Forcing people to be in relationships with people they don’t want to be in relationships with? No but that is what you assumed for some reason. If that is what I meant that is what i wouldve said. Maybe you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:58 PM
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Society has obligations to me as is required by the social contract. Do you disagree? I'm not going to elaborate on anything else until you admit it, since you and OP seem to have issue with this sentence: It is society's obligation to make sure its people are taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:47 PM
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OP established that it is inevitable, as in there is no prevention. What now? How should society take care of these people? Society cares for each individual as it is contracted to do. The poor, disabled, victimized, et al. What exactly is the plan for incels as they are likely to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:45 PM
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who said anything about sex? Women really are sex craved degenerates
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:42 PM
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I don't think it's anyones obligation to make sure everyone has a partner. that's not what i said broddy bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:34 PM
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as a civilized society we should work on preventing this outcome. Being natural does not mean good. It is society's obligation to make sure its people are taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:28 PM
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10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:26 PM
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OP asked "why are men expected to chase?" not "do I have to chase?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:00 PM
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Im asking you where you got that idea. I understand the idea, where did you get it from? Looksmaxxing, gym bros, FIRE, TRP - All these cultures are actually about putting in exceptional amounts of work. I disagree that young men stopped putting in effort, at least more than society as a whole has stopped putting in effort. Is that idea from personal experience, PPD, studies, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:48 PM
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Men are not a bigger threat than heart disease and cancer. Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:56 PM
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Where did you get the idea that young men stopped putting in effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:55 PM
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You can get yourself off but having someone else do you for you is often better i wouldn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:42 PM
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why do so many women see themselves as so much more than they really are?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:46 PM
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i dont get how women got "liberated" from the institution of marriage and can now work for their own money and dont need to marry men for a place to live or food to eat but now they just say they still want your money anyways. What happened???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:45 PM
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Change it to want to satisfy women. Because you are wanting things I cant give you. alot of women want a lot of things. Women *want* money and *want* fame and *want* happiness or whatever, but I cant give that to you even if I wanted to. I also want things like to be a fighter pilot or a NBA star but thats simply not possible so I dont want them anymore, I move on and focus on other wants that are actually achieveable. If you come up to your short boyfriend and *want* him to be taller, what is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:22 AM
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Cool, i can't. sounds like a self control problem Change it to want to satisfy women. why would I do that lol? You just admitted to being insatiable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:11 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:06 AM
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Read the pos title: Can the mismatch between what women want and what men offer even theoretically be solved? To reconcile this either women need to change their wants, men need to change their offers, or something in between. The rest of his post just assumes the problem with the divide is men's offers and not women's wants. You cant for once think that maybe the expectations are wrong and not the person you put those expectations on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:57 AM
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why do some men need to improve but not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:05 AM
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yes it can theoretically be solved because anything is possible in theory. it will never be solved however. I personally hope it gets much worse. The framing of this post is wrong imo, why are men seen as the lynch pin of the divide? "What men offer" and not what women offer? why are men considered "failing expectations" but women arent "over estimating their worth?" So tired of the man blaming in PPD. all dating woes are men's fault apparently. If women do compete for the top men of the distrib…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:01 AM
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Women have dating on tutorial mode
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:54 PM
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"that's it" not really. Kind of a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:46 AM
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youre dragging this analogy out way too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:35 AM
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So at it takes to be labeled as a provider is earning a little more? thats not what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:08 AM
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But if you know you don't have to row, why would you? Nothing really changes if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:44 AM
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Everyone for the most part is a provider now, even in higher income locations both spouses typically work and provide. Providing and working are not exactly the same. Both people may work but one will ultimately provide more. Like paying for dinner, doing the chores, etc. especially if there is a difference in their working hours. Maybe once you have been together awhile youll reach parity but the provider expectation is still there in dating. Women are still unemployed more than men and I guara…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:42 AM
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i was under the impression that dating preferences are allowed to be discriminatory, i.e. I dont like indian men, not because im racist but because thats not what im looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 01:35 AM
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no lol. being yourself does not get you a girlfriend. Biggest lie ever told.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:08 AM
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we've already established that incels are not terrorists, and you said here: being associated with terrorists implies incels are terrorists. So you chose to be an ignorant sheep of the majority that falsely believe incels are terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:37 AM
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its sad really. Incels are not a terrorist group but society badly wants a scape goat for all their woes. Persecution of the minority by the majority is a tale as old as time. They label them "monsters, rats, traitors, subhumans" and the like. They did it to black slaves, they did it to jews, they did it to hispanic immigrants, they do it to incels now too. two wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:25 AM
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The conclusion of the majority ad populum fallacy. incels are not a terrorist group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:10 AM
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you equate risk to finanical or entrepreneurial risk when in fact risk taking applies to everything, like driving fast, doing drugs, commiting suicide, etc. men are biologically less risk averse but that doesnt mean they are starting businesses with that. Thirty years ago, nobody gave a shit what 90s incels had to say. They were outliers, and we didn't look at them as representative of anything. Now, because of comments sections, we allow fringe minority groups with extreme views to exercise und…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:53 PM
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women also like pretty men, also super bluepill take not really lol, look at any pill debate before 2020 and its just endless blue pill/normie screeching that looks dont matter. Red pill was the only thing pushing back against that notion. It took us YEARS to finally move from "looks don't matter" to "ok maybe they matter sometimes"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:28 PM
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Yes, purity, pair bonding, sentimental, experience building etc. I think it just makes for an overall better and healthier relationship for both, that applies to a man too. but in reality 99% of men can't get virgins so they would rather say they dont want one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:41 PM
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Op, life isn’t fair. The dating scene IS fair because everyone has the chance and opportunities to date AND you can date who you want, as long as they want to date you too life isnt fair but dating is fair? you can't even follow your own logic. Not to mention you are wrong 100%. dating is not fair and that is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:27 PM
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I have considered passporting but it's an incredible amount of work for potentially no reward, and if you can't get women in your home country why would you get them in a foreign one?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:22 PM
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I know. That’s the point of my OP lol. I was quoting you I think males over the millennia have made their egos and woes everyone else’s problem. i feel the same about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:07 AM
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we’re more concerned about men is because they’re killing themselves and others. You would never take interest in the problem otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:02 PM
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OP never said direct communication was the only way which is what you paraphrased it as. And honestly if you can’t manage to use direct communication you are a failed member of society. What OP is getting at is women’s preferences and vetting standards are at odds. Women won’t approach, even though people who would most need vetting are those that do approach you. Most women have failed to adequately vet men but refuse to alter how they vet men to the detriment of both men and women. Bad men get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:42 PM
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revolve around direct communication somehow being the only legitimate form of vetting thats not what OP said at all, just that is is an under utilized vetting tool
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:31 PM
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strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 12:13 AM
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So, you don’t think that men often look for easy sex No and that’s not what you said Re: the whole edge thing, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:13 PM
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The fact is it’s trivial to throw around hyperbolic generalizations on PPD. I can say “a lot of women like hurting small animals” which is dubious. There is very little data for gender ideas so we need be faithful when we speak about gender topics. You’re harming good debate when you resort to attacking a gender that way. But ask yourself, Mr black pill: Is the world a nice place where the strong do not prey on the weak? You write like an edge lord and this is the most 1 dimensional attempt at p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:26 AM
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well established by whom? how many is "plenty of guys?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:50 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:44 PM
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STDs and unwanted kids are too often the consequence for being a sexually active teenager. I'll pass. the risk of missing out on youth experiences can outweigh the risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancies If you were an unwanted and/or neglected child and it was fine, I want to hear about it. I do know this happens and people come out fine even when their parents had no interest in them after conception but this seems rare. honest to god what are you talking about? the majority of people who were u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:18 AM
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overblown issue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:39 AM
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EXACTLY
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:08 AM
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I stay woke
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:49 AM
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are you being independent when you write here? It feels a little ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:49 AM
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the biggest victims of male violence are other males, not women. men are more likely to harm and be harmed by other men than women. There is solidarty globally against violence against women. it is taboo, they are not targetted as much, modern society heavily punishes violence especially against women, and men tend to attack other men not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:48 AM
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Stastically speaking males are more of liability to females in just about every way possible. Not really. only in threat of violence is that true and modern society has put more effort into combatting violence than any other issue. it's the definiton of government. Women can cause equal harm in a non-violent way that society overlooks because violence is the metric for victimization. If it aint paying for dates, being generous, doing the neccesary efforts to build the relationship. your trust sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:45 AM
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what group are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:38 AM
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I hope he stays away from them and finds peace and happiness on his own. there are no safe spaces for men. find a DV shelter not majority ran by women. find anywhere that only permits men to reside. They don't exist. every man space is for everyone and every woman space is for women. I need to stay away from women? no women need to stay away from me. leave me alone, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:38 AM
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oof. you admit women are manipulating and harassing men for their own self interest but instead shift the blame to men and not the women attacking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:48 AM
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thats wonderful but I still discourage it. A child is a life long commitment. Those "fatherly figures" aren't going to be available around the clock for 18 years like a real father can be. fatherly figures are not father figures. The exposure is not the same. They won't be around nearly as much as a child needs. single parent households have worse outcomes for children, especially single mother households. There are tons of paternal dynamics, that developing children rely on, absent from single …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:46 AM
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I would discourage her from having another kid without a father figure in the household and strong support systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:01 AM
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so single mom, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:58 AM
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If you have close relationships with family and friends, why would you be lonely? familial and platonic relationships cannot fulfill romantic and intimate relationships. they are not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:56 AM
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its implied
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 06:50 AM
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yeah. and lots of women love touching kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:43 AM
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People who are well off have less kids. the developed world is leading in declining birth rates. If anything, the more impoverished a society is the more kids they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:40 AM
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You clearly don't understand men if your final sentence is literally saying "men want to hurt me!" so im not going to value anything you said with that misandrist remark.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:08 AM
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War.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:57 PM
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being an autistic man is much harder than being an autistic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:29 AM
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I assume you want me to say women which I won’t, but the fact that your thought process begins with “who can we put all the blame onto?” Instead of “how can the problem be solved?” Goes to show I don’t think you’re interested in talking about it, just looking for a “Gotcha!” Somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:16 PM
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If all young men are socially inept, we are facing a serious crisis beyond the ability of the individual to fix Like saying the solution to poverty is poor people need to work more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:51 PM
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Where did you read me saying that is women's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:48 PM
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failing to "interact with the opposite sex" is not indicative of any underlying condition. This is just a way to belittle shy and nervous men as defective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:46 PM
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average young man is socially inept. you can be socially inept and not neurodivergent. Being weird is the new normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:36 PM
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"All men only want sex money and slaves" holy sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:34 PM
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are you high
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:00 PM
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female is in the name feminism. they advocate for women, not for anyone else. Whatever benefits women, they are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:48 PM
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I dont see an issue with OP specificying women. Kind of pertinent to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:00 AM
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what does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:07 AM
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this is what you said in your first reply: I think the best way to solve a societal problem is for everyone to solve it on a personal level Which I paraphrased as: I dont get how you can offload a societal problem to the responsibility of the individuals. Which can only lead to the conclusions that: The problem exists, and the problem existing means that men aren't solving it. Ergo, men aren't trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:47 AM
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I dont get how you can offload a societal problem to the responsibility of the individuals. what makes you think all these people who are sexless aren't trying? Im 23 and i've been trying since I was 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:25 AM
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so is flat earth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:29 PM
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I dont think that is a popular thing to say or widely believed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:25 PM
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most men are never attractive is crazy work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:55 PM
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if he couldnt get any action in his teens and twenties, what makes you think he can now? I'd say the odds get less and less the older you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:54 PM
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no they don't. they take care of themselves. you are ignorant. You must be in your fourties to still think that is the norm. you are so out of touch it's unreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:10 AM
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so did men. grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:05 AM
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And the reality is that women these days are still expected to work and do the majority of household labour you are seriously out of touch if you genuinely believe this. Two income household is literally the default, every person I know has been splitting chores and bills with their partners. And there isn't even a discussion about it being done any other way. Maybe stop extrapolating what your mom and grandpa experience to everyone else because times have actually changed. Back then it was the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:52 AM
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No patriarchy here. Just the natural order. Ensuring men can't take women's freedom would mean some form of augmenting men, like artifically making them weaker. The horse in the barn can always kill you at the end of the day. You may saddle it up and feed it it's every meal. The horse may be entirely dependent on you for every neccesity. But it can still one day without warning kick you in the head and kill you. You would have to fundamentally alter the horse if you didn't want it to have that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:29 AM
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With a fair playing field, natural selection is allowed to take course, and the next generation of men can be better. A fair playing field and natural selection are mutually exclusive. Women are artifically selected, not naturally selected. You would still be concubines and dish washers if men didn't take pity and afford you some faux freedoms. In fact, in some parts of the world you still are. How natural do you want this natural selection to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:42 AM
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nah. it's made up. the fact you didnt include it to begin with tells me everything I need to know. Just for discussion relevance, are you in menopause yet? When do you expect to enter menopause? I think that's an important factor here you are overlooking when talking about men vs women's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:51 PM
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they're a bad actor. surpised mods haven't banned this hateful person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:46 AM
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Nice fanfiction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:45 AM
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I like what you have to say, but I will disagree on one point. the general trend is that society is getting more urbanized. If you will look across the pacific to japan and S. Korea, whom are incredibly urbanized with strong public transport, they too are in a dating crisis. Other than that, everything else is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:27 AM
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I was just pointing out that there are men trying to help one another. Manosphere is one of them. This guy for example I would say is apart of the manosphere. I would say manosphere has helped some men find their way in life, most RP guys in this sub will tell you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:36 AM
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if everyone faces the same personal problem it's no longer a personal problem. I have some sexual trauma. I have never had sex. These issues correlate. That is, they are comorbid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:52 PM
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the manosphere is actually a response to men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:51 PM
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very relevant to teenagers. If you dont have dating success in your teens you are set for a life of inceldom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:39 PM
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From a post by u/ScramJet1 on r/teenagers: Misogyny isn't what prevents incels from getting laid "Your ability to get laid has nothing to do with morality or virtue. Dating isn't a meritocracy, sometimes you do everything right and still fail. Incels are not getting laid because they are unattractive, socially awkward and have no charm, it has nothing to do with their misogyny because plenty of misogynistic men have no trouble getting laid. Treating it like it's a game of merit is probably one o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:27 AM
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Without being misogynistic, I think the risks for women are greatly exaggerated to play into social stigmas for their benefit. I can't speak on anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:04 AM
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Thank you for agreeing with me that looks matter the most before everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:53 AM
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we should study the link between men's physical attractiveness and being funny. So strange how all the sexually attractive, i.e. 6ft+ and handsome, seem to also be the biggest jokesters with the ladies. Such a crazy coincidence. What could possibly be going on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:46 AM
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sounds like your husband is a kid or something the way you write paragraphs complaining about him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:37 AM
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pretty disingenious interpretation of what OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:34 AM
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comedians can also be good looking. not mutually exclusive. and not every comedian "gets any."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:34 AM
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I agree. I think women "laugh" or "find funny" based on if they like some other part of you like physical attractiveness. It's never your sense of humor. Every person I meet, especially guys, will out-right tell im hilarious and "if you can make a girl laugh bro you're in." So i'm funny, and women like funny, yet I have no success. It's like an unimportant characteristic. Like humor is just a vague catch all for "like" in womens thinking. People women like are funny, not funny people are liked b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:31 AM
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"Just have confidence, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:19 AM
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take your own advice and stop coming here giving advice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:59 AM
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holy strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:59 AM
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Yea. And SA victims too. They chose to wear provocative clothing and go down dark allies. Right dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:39 PM
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And it’s someone’s own fault they die of a drug overdose too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:56 PM
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where did you read hypersexual men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:39 AM
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Obscenity actually catered to what men craved. Elaborate they'll just consume the stuff in private/underground/illegally And? it'll reduce the amount of consumption full-stop. And especially from children. Why isn't this logic applied to underage drinking? "legalize underage drinking. they're all just drinking underage anyways. No reason to make it illegal because they'll do it anways secretly." while it shapes how they end up treating their girlfriends and wives. porn ALREADY does this, and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:31 AM
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Sure, this is from the OP I posted that included examples: "We can't ban porn, we cant influence people to be modest, we can't get sex ads out of the TV, we can't get rid of hookup culture, we can't get rid of superficial sex apps like tindr, we can't delete OF from app store" theres a few more in OP if you want to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:24 AM
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yes, so get this: when all of your media is about how sex is a rite of passage, inevitable, an important and inescapable part of life, people tend to expect it. Look at American pie. Look at any coming-of-age flick. It's about sex. You get laid as a teenager and it's awesome. You become a man. Even if you're not watching that specific show, the implication is clear everywhere you go. Sex is front and center in society, it is ubiqitious. If youre not having it, you're the odd one out. It consumes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:16 AM
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oof blame shifting as usual. Couldn't imagine being on the side of history that literally argues for hookup culture and pornography to children
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:12 AM
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all of human history is a pretty good control group, since they didnt have the hypersexuality we do today. Anything 125 years or further back is a good starting point. I think men's libido becomes a more manageable facet of life like anything else. The more you feed it the more it consumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:11 AM
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this is verifiably false because pornography as a product is an invention of the last 70 years or so. Versus the several millenia of recorded human history that universally rejected it as obscene. Fun fact, porn isnt even protected under the first amendment. It's a very recent phenomenon. It could be said that, perhaps, more sex-obsessed men got created once this stuff became mainstream and boys get exposed to it early, If you say this, then you agree with me, we must get rid of pornography and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:08 AM
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cute how you managed to point out how horrible and harmful men's biology is, but have 0 to say about women's. Porn was not invented to satisfy men's libido. that is the entire point of this post. it was created to exploit it. Porn does not satisfy men's libido in any respect, it only intensifies it with no further outlet. If every man spread his seed far and wide (consensually or not since might makes right) there would be a surplus of uncared for, resourceless children. Would you want to be one…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:55 AM
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I think the path of least resistance is to destroy hypersexuality in society. The cohort of men this problem has affected so deeply are beyond saving at this point. No need to give them sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:52 AM
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oof. do you hold addicts to the same standard? "Just quit fentantyl bro. its your own fault." The reason youre wrong is that society had collectively and correctly identified drugs as harmful and thus punish people who give them out. Porn was banned for much of american history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:51 AM
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desire as in sexual desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:33 AM
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Yes. 23yo virgin. Resent the fuck out of people who got to have everything I was promised with none of the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:30 AM
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everyone has problems. attractive guys that dont put themselves out there, is hardly a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:33 AM
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I dont have anything to gain from guys. 23 virgin, I have made hundreds of guy friends. I see no point in engaging with them anymore. Its exhasuting, and if youve talked to one youve talked to all of them. The only thing they care about are working out, cars, video games, or some sport involving a ball. That describes 99% of the male population. At this point in my life, I have the friends I need. I dont need anymore guy friends. I dont have the time and energy for it. Theres nothing left to gai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:30 AM
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that guy destroyed you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:43 PM
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I agree with everything you said. Maybe its down to you personally, but every woman I speak to says having a kid was the best thing in their life. Some have multiple. Women "biologically?" have a desire to nurture in a way a man doesn't. Men suck at caring for each other. It used to be one person (usually the man because of your aforementioned points about physical differences) worked, the other performed the very needed tasks of tending to the kids, cooking cleaning, running errands, and other …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:00 AM
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shouldnt you be, you know, being good right now? you seem kind of bad right now. youre treating me poorly. You cant even manage to obey your own maxim. Less than 100 words of my text on reddit and you diagnose me as some kind of super manipulator and calling me a bad person. News flash: moral myopia. There is in fact multiple subjective takes on what is good or bad or what those words mean. In school its called philospohy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:30 AM
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to the average man, the average woman is conventionally attractive, because he gets nothing from anyone, and a 5/10 starts looking like a 10/10 when all you can ever get are 1/10s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:03 PM
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everyone is good for self-interested reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:58 PM
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this was a hard read
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:57 AM
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why do I care about being enjoyable to be around if I am romantically crippled?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:38 AM
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For alot of us men, it is indeed a slave-feeling inclination towards sex. You can never turn it off, and you spend most of your life running from it. To say men have no self-control or agency just because they don't want to suffer from sexual desires is detestable. These men do not steal, rape,murder, speak ill, break things, etc. which are all far more indicative of self-control than saying you don't want to feel sexual desires. You can have excellent self control and still not want to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:18 PM
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it makes a marginal difference. Instead of 100% failure rate it's 95%. Then tack on the thousands of hours of labor it takes to develop yourself into a likeable person if you arent one already, and the incentive is skewed. Attractiveness is an immovable obstacle, "personality" is just cope. An expensive one that won't yield meaningful results.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:10 PM
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being ugly with a great personality also leaves you permanently alone in current year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:05 PM
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It takes a lot of effort to find a girl willing to fuck me, and it doesnt yield until it does, you can spend months trying and get nothing. It is more practical to use porn for people who incapable at finding a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:01 PM
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male virginity and loneliness are increasing year over year. It's getty pretty high actually. And I dont think it's becoming men's choice whether they have sex or not. To reword, these newly minted virgin men are likely not virgin by choice. So the rate of involuntarily celibate men is increasing. In a purely definition sense, incels are increasing in population and already represent a large portion of it. If we speak of ideologically incel, that's less but I say is still growing every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:40 PM
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Women won't even date shorter or bisexual men or be guilted into it. Stats show this to be true. that doesnt sound blue pill lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:30 PM
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it probably does. Like, 90% of the time it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:59 PM
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All I gotta say is i've never met a woman that said I love working
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:06 PM
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yet you were rushing to tell us all about another man's balls. To not only remember seeing another man's balls but to also tell other people you saw his balls, the implication is clear: you cared about his balls. Otherwise why remember and divulge to other people about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 05:10 PM
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considering the impression seeing other mens' balls has left on you, I would say you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:55 PM
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Well I can't argue against your opinion. Im pretty sure it is they become frustrated without success in dating, THEN go to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:46 AM
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it's more apt to say frustration from women not towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:13 AM
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You described very average men, like they are average. what's the big deal? You said it yourself. being at the bottom of any hierarchy stirs animosity towards those above. I don't think that is exclusive to dating. I've actually heard the top of the hierarchy are equally as misogynistic, because they can have any women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:07 AM
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you did an insane generalization and used quotes for something no one has ever uttered in their lives. You are literally inventing fake scenarios in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:53 PM
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I feel like this entire posts applies to like, 10% of the population at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:48 PM
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Of course I know what a red flag means. Why are you dodging the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:36 PM
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who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:15 PM
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did you post any substantiating psychological research in your OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:04 PM
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Why would you let the opinion of other women dictate if a man is attractive *to you?* "no woman has ever fucked him, that means hes bad. No woman has ever dated him, that means I shouldnt." Nothing is wrong innately with being a virgin. Whatever causes post-teen virginity would be the issue. Like trauma, being too mean, gross, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:03 PM
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No one is forcing women to be picky, men not being picky enough is not a reason to do so. As usual, it's all about women. "Men not being picky enough is forcing us women to be picky! it's men's fault!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:03 PM
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but you vet men by the ability to defend you, no? big buff guys are first, short skinny guys are last.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:38 PM
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your son is cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:50 AM
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I like your reply
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:40 PM
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then sex with prostitutes, whom I have no sexual desire for, will not satisfy me and thus does not solve that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:39 PM
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sexual desire is a strong drive, not sex. I have no sexual desire for other men, so it would be preposterous to say sex with a man makes me feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:37 PM
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I mean yeah, if you operate like a calculator who's underlying concern is monetary and not emotional. "oh durrr it's financially cheaper for me to pay a hooker once a week to fuck than developing a human connection with a girl and taking her on dates and making her my wife and falling in love!!!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:34 PM
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I dont think that is a bad idea. I neglected to mention this facet that in some benelux country, maybe the netherlands, the government issued vouchers to disabled men that allowed them to have sex with the country's escorts (who operate legally) because being disabled does not mean you have no libido, and disabled is unattractive. This gave these men who we would call incels the chance to have sex who would otherwise not be able to on their own. I think that's a healthy way to view escorts and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:30 PM
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I would be disgusted with myself doing it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:27 PM
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> What it gives the owner in return of owning it is equivalent to the price they are willing to pay.... I dont know what you're trying to say but it's not true. Value is not detemined by price and vice versa. Value is a philisophical concept and my knowledge comes from Acounting and the Austrian School of Economics. But to say something being priceless is equated to it being valueless or worthless is stupid. Let's say I own myself, as in, I am myself. benefits of owning me or being me are that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:26 PM
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This assumes the primary issue is sex alone, when that is not it. Like saying people's primary issue is money when it is in-fact what money gets them. "Sex" is just an act, sexual desire is more accurate for this. And even then it's split between intimacy and sexual desire which dont always work in tandem. I want to be intimate with my wife, I want sexual desires met with that hot girl at the coffee shop. Sex with an obese disabled person does not magically fix your sexual desires if you will ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:15 PM
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I dont need to eat sand to know I probably wont like it. Im sure they can be, for SOME people. The entire thing sounds absolutely disgusting to me. Sex is a intimate experience and instead it's being feigned during a transaction. I disagree that legalization makes it ethical, as I have spoken to my german friends about it and they say brothels have the same issues. I like your reply however.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:08 PM
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I agree 100% and in this case escorts are likely the best option. I did mention if sex is your sole objective and can look past the morality of it then do it. But most men are not lookiing for caveman animal sex, most want emotional connection like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:57 PM
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It proposed an answer, not a solution. Sexual intimacy does not equal sex. You can have sex without it being intimate. You can have sex and still be left wanting something else. If I have sex with someone I don't want to have sex with, you cannot say my sexual desires were met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:56 PM
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Likewise, you saying something contradictory does not mean it's true either. And we are not speaking specifcally of sex alone. Value is not determined by what others are willing to "pay" for but by what it gives the owner in return of owning it. Value and markets are seperate. You are conflating "value" with "market value." value in economics is not determined by the market. Price is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:53 PM
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I outlined why I think sex work is bad. It's self-evident, if it were sooo good at fixing it then we would not have people who oppose it and dont want to use it. you cant force someone to have sex with someone they dont want to. Me personally, if you can excuse me being non-PC for a moment, I dont want to "cuddle" or "be taken" by a woman who has been taken by another man the night before and sees me as a job to be done. Imagining all the other guys who touched up on her and did everything I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:47 PM
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There is not a solution because it's not a math problem. I dont have a magic bullet to fix every person's indivdual problems. One man is undesirable because he is ugly, the next might be because he is too anxious. The best you can say is to have people keep trying their best and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:44 PM
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This sounds like you want to castrate and butcher men's bodies. I think it would be cool to have a libido switch, but it is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:01 PM
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It is a science. And that isnt how a limerance works. The dating market is skewed in women's favor and that is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:58 PM
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Why not? You dont have a claim to "not being able to find good men" if your entire dating strategy is just wait for them to come to you. You exclude a meaningful portion of men by simply putting up the criteria of "They must speak to me first" which doesnt guarantee a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:25 AM
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You are still allowing the possibility that refusing to approach means you dont meet someone great for you. And dating apps are a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:04 AM
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phsyically attractive, right? I thought women valued by non-physical factors in attraction. How can you know if they're attractive w/o getting to know them? You are allowing the possibility that the best man for you won't approach ergo you never meet him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:48 PM
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I made a girl wait. the next night she fucked a different guy instead and blocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:22 PM
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This runs contradictory to the emerging self improvement RP movement. 4am alarm, cold showers, 4hrs of gym, reading, networking. I would say men nowadays put in more effort. This entire post is just "men arent good enough for us women who are better than them." Self improve to get women, but dont do it for women do it for yourself. Dont go to clubs and gyms for women do it for yourself. Women dont want to be approached in non-dating environments. I mean, honestly, this post rubs me the wrong way…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:15 PM
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I think what he is getting at is that everyone complains their life sucks. Rich complain their lobster is too buttery and their steak too juicy. "Depressed/Suicidial" is hardly a unique experience. even rich people get depressed. This is relative to guys who cant have sex and cant have a relationship, who would have a deeper claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:24 PM
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This is a classic appeal to nature. Its actually perfectly realistic to expect people to control their desires. we do it everyday. Civilization is literally built upon mastery of human biology. its why we dont just shit anywhere like an animal does, or steal food from the grocery store when were hungry. We are humans and we understand things. What you are touching on is sexual desire. By your logic women should never get with homeless, jobless, felonious men because they cannot sponsor a child. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:38 AM
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are you gonna answer the part where he says there are lots of women who enjoy casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:22 AM
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except the procreation argument makes no sense in modern dating because most people dont plan to have kids and contraceptives are plentiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:40 AM
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Men's issues = Men's fault Women's issues = Men's fault Make it make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:30 AM
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delulu sis
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:19 AM
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yes but they are straight and you are straight. I am straight and they are gay. Im receiving attraction from those I am objectively not sexually compatible with. Dont' compare gay men-to-straight men as straight men-to-straight women. I do not want to be attractive to ANY gay man. you want to be attractive to SOME straight men. Just not ugly ones or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:39 PM
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being lusted over by the gender you want is good. being lusted over by gay men as a straight man is horrible for the psyche as opposed to straight woman attracting straight men (which is what she wants)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:26 PM
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Its a moving conversation. The labels cant define every person or belief, It's a no true scotsman fallacy. the whole pill debate hasnt exist past 20 years so things move around quickly. I consider myself tapped in to contemporary conversations of pills which is what is being said today. Blackpill doesnt narrow itself to lookism which is banned here so it would be odd to me to tolerate it at all since lookism doesnt fit into the subreddit at all. Black pill is that there is no hope for you. You h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:43 AM
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I think this discussion mainly wants to shed light on people's struggles in dating not wholly being a fault of their own which this sub loves to say it is. "oh you're a virgin? Oh you're lonely? Oh you cant have good relationships? it's all your fault because youre a bad person" but most of these people would never blame a paraplegic for not working hard enough to be in the NBA or someone with serious mental illnesses from forming healthy relationships. In reality, most dysfunctions in relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:34 PM
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you can accept your parents are human while also acknowledging the role they play in your development and how it might be affecting your dating outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:30 PM
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sheesh man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:49 AM
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not ugly is more workable than pretty. If I said all the positive atrributes I would be labeled entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:49 AM
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anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:28 PM
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yes yes probably yes no no maybe maybe no yes yes maybe maybe yes maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe no maybe no these are really superficial questions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:49 PM
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Not fat, not ugly, not mean, not crazy, not stupid. but there is lee way here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:46 PM
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same energy as "There is nothing wrong with beng a paraplegic with MDS"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:17 PM
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didnt need your sob anecdote, did you even think that maybe, potentially, he had mental health challenges?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:02 PM
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why don't you find a group's life span a pressing issue? Do you want men to die? I'm sure if it was a race of people having noticeably shorter lifespans you would be circling the wagons to fund research and provide resources to stop it. Apparently people dying prematurely is just a "you need to do better." I bet you think we shouldn't cure cancer but need to tell people to stop getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:51 PM
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Until men accept that we’re not entitled to a healer and that we are simply responsible for our own lives, individually, nothing will get better for anybody. I really don't appreciate the constant "until men do X it won't get better" from blue pill. It's always mens fault. God forbid anyone else in society bare a fraction of any responsibility for any of the things they do. Letitng abusers eat at dinner tables, not taking female perpetrated CSA seriously, Not respecting men's mental health issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:51 PM
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"No you can't have a kawasaki Ninja you're 35 and your kids need a ride home from school."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:49 PM
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>disagreeing on semantics we aren't, you're using the term factually wrong. From Wikipedia: "The Napoleon complex, also known as Napoleon syndrome and short-man syndrome, is a purported condition normally attributed to men of short stature, with overly aggressive or domineering social behavior." Here is a deductive argument for it: Napoleon Syndrome is being mean for being short Bob is tall Bob has napoleon syndrome Bob is being mean for being short tall is being mean for being short tall does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:33 PM
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Napoleon Syndrome is specifically about height. If you apply the same idea, "over-compensating" to a tall person you wouldn't use Napoleon Syndrome you would likely say "Small Dick Syndrome" or attack whatever shortcoming you think is causing the behavior. Objectively, you cannot use Napoleon Sydnrome to describe a tall person because the concept is about height being the cause of someone's behavior. I will also add that height isn't a characteristic that can be or is easily hidden. someone's di…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:18 PM
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being short is an immutable characteristic. being fat is not. Short men have no way to stop being judged. fat women do, by losing weight. There is no way to not be judged as a short man for being short. there is a way to not be judged as a fat woman for being fat. Lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:10 PM
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this might not be the sub for you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:06 PM
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Women are judged for things they can change such as weight. Men are judged for things they cannot change such as height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:04 PM
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>A Napoleon Complex is the perceived use of aggression as a form of compensation for shortcomings. this doesnt preclude tall men as you wrote it. You can't say a tall person has napoleon syndrome because the attack requires they be short. I do not see tall men get bullied for height or aggression. In fact aggressive tall men are seen as confident, strong, powerful and you can look no further than CEO's having heights WAY above average. This really applies to all positions of power because tall e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:03 PM
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appearance and behaviour can generally be changed. Height cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:59 PM
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> Short man syndrome is when a guy acts like a dick and like he is over compensating in the worst way possible. I assume you mean when a short man does it? You cant spew short man syndrome at a 6"4 guy doing those things. So why is it short man syndrome? You only can say these things when a short man does these things because he is short which is both hard to prove and also disrespectful because you play into an insecurity. Imagine an ugly woman who get's belittled as ugly woman syndrome for bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:58 PM
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I don't think you can make the comparsion because the "On her period" trope has been completely phased out. You will be admonished for saying that. On the other hand. making fun of someone's height is considered in good spirits and playful. You can do it in front of the person, around co-workers, in friend groups. You cannot do the same with the periods remark.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:55 PM
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People cannot rationalize that non-threatening men (short men) can be upset or angry. Instead, they invent a intellectually sounding term, "Napoleon Syndrome" to discredit angry short men as tantrum-havers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:09 PM
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Babe wake up, new lecturing men PPD post just dropped!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:04 PM
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MGTOW failed? How and when?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:59 PM
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"intellectually debate" brother your post is incoherent, riddled with bad grammar and incorrect spellings, and I have no idea what youre wanting to debate because it is nonsensical. Dude re-read your comment. "they resort to they resort to" hello? wtf is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:02 PM
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Waiter, Waiter! Another schizo post please!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:46 PM
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bro just discovered addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:27 AM
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nor wide spread...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:17 AM
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Anecdotal Confirmation Bias Generalization...? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:54 AM
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It is difficult and you’re shaming men for trying. Are you saying men should lie to get sex by saying they want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:07 PM
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My life has not, and neither has my dating life. I didnt expect it to because this really is just a dating advice sub with extra steps and dating advice has never worked for me. But I find the insights interesting and I care about the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:36 AM
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society should probably take accountability of the things it inflicts upon it's participants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:01 AM
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the point of dating is to see how you like the person and if you can get along. You are hurting yourself by being close minded and are likewise hurting the other person by rejecting them superficially. It could have been your life partner and yet...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:21 PM
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in the context of dating it is objectively late. Graduating college w/o relationship experience? it's basically over for you. The further you get in life the more experience you are expected to have, and this includes dating. If you lack that experience you are over-looked, and this includes dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:12 PM
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youre about to get brigaded once the rainbow hair crowd checks in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:49 PM
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Sorry about your perceived authority on the subject. Unfortunately, people in poverty can have the same outcomes as fatherless homes and vice versa. There is no evidence that poverty is the cause. You might also take a look at single father households where the affects are far less pronounced as opposed to single mother households. Im just here to help you understand things a little bit better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:35 PM
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Most notably child poverty what? “Many theories have been advanced to explain the poor state of our nations’ children: most notably child poverty, race, and social class. A factor that has been largely ignored, however—particularly among child and family policymakers—is the prevalence and devastating effects of fathers’ absence in children’s lives.” Poverty is used, along side race and social class, to explain the poor economic quality of children. This article says fatherlessness is overlooked …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:17 PM
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Nothing you posted concludes poverty is the biggest issue, in fact nothing says anything about poverty or income
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:06 PM
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well for one, that would be anecdotal evidence and opene the door for a sampling bias. and two, If you say this based off your experience you shouldve prefaced this entire post with "From my experience..." because I cant argue with personal experiences. please do that going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:21 AM
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you cant guarantee a man that approaches isnt trying to use you in the same regard you cant guarantee a man that doesnt approach you wants to use you. I will also say that maybe they dont approach because they dont want to fuck you. There are definitely women who arent desirable and men who dont desire all women. You not approaching only harms you, in the same way you try to project that on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:01 AM
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How does women not approaching men make them better at vetting men? This just makes men more capable of deceiving you because they understand it better. In fact this logic is backwards. The men approaching you have a non-zero chance of wanting to use you. The men not approaching you have a zero percent chance of wanting to use you (and a zero percent chance of using you)because they aren’t the ones approaching. If they did want to use you they would approach. You should actually be approaching m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:33 AM
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Everyone would pick "accused of something and be inconvenienced by it" if that were what really happened to you when a woman claims you assaulted her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:38 PM
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Answer question in OP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:04 PM
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we’ve established it is causing problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:03 PM
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I don’t understand how you can say “a man can be a misogynist and that’s ok if that doesn’t affect others” when that is the defining trait of a negative character is that it affects others. To your TLDR, yes the Manosphere has consequences for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:05 PM
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I want to hear it. is it looksism? Yea I am seeing a lot of people giving invalidating and condenscending answers that are verbatim telling men to do better which was what I got ahead of in my OP but people insist on still saying its the answer. (spoiiler: it hasnt worked).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:23 PM
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I disagree, honestly. But back to the topic at hand - how do we get men to disengage with the Manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:30 PM
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Did you read OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:24 PM
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I’m the one asking what the alternative is. Did you read OP? We are currently at men engage with the Manosphere (which some view as a problem), the only advice ever given is that men need to do better, men continue to engage with the Manosphere, and then we have shocked pikachu face that telling men to do better ad Nauseum does not magically make them better and stop the Manosphere. So what is your solution that isn’t some reworded “men need to…” because we are definitely past that. It has not w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:15 PM
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If you don’t believe men engaging with the Manosphere is a problem for all of us to solve you didn’t have to come into the post and regurgitate the same “men need to XYZ.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:12 PM
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Are you saying you, as in women generally, will/should do those things or that men need to do those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:58 PM
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So, if I am hearing you correctly, your advice is “men need to pick themselves up by their bootstraps?” That isn’t new advice and it will not change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:54 PM
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So you disagree with OP? Where he says it’s not an ideology and where he’s said it’s not a buzz word buzz word ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:53 PM
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Did you just not read the OP at all? Where he defines manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:48 PM
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Why is the manosphere spreading unfortunate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:18 PM
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>I think most people can agree that for most of history most forms of prostitution have involved exploitation and abuse. The only times it isn't have been under legal regulation. Uhh it being illegal doesnt magically make it safe and good. It promotes sex trafficking, SA, pozzing, pimping, black mailing, abuse, exploitation, extortion. prefixing it with legal does not make that go away. look at european brothels that regularly have sick shit happen in them. Not to mention it is dangerous for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:57 PM
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prostitution is an abusive industry. wtf? >involuntary virgins should just put some effort into finding the non virgin women who are not repulsed by them. did you think before you posted this that maybe they have already? >if he treats her well, doesn't have an attitude problem about his involuntary virginity and makes some actual romantic effort. kind of a purity standard here. ive done those too but it doesnt work, so next you will say that means I didnt do those things because you invented a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:18 PM
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So how are you meant to lose your virginity. Idk. You tell me. Acting like I haven’t spent the last half decade trying to solve that over here. If a woman wanted me by now I would not be a virgin. There isn’t any switch I can flip that changes that. It’s also funny because I have never told any woman I’m a virgin in my entire life. It’s just so odd from my perspective to assume there is a woman that wants to fuck me while also thinking her knowing I’m a virgin changes the calculations in any way…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:47 AM
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Not here to discuss that. Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to think that the reason someone is a virgin is because someone knows they are. Hallmark romcom level reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:55 AM
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Again, you are assuming the woman’s knowledge of me being a virgin is why I am a virgin. It is correlation not causation. There are intrinsic values I don’t have that cause me to be a virgin, not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:51 AM
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Said men. Do you think a kid is a man or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:31 AM
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Lie to obtain what? Sex or a relationship? I’m a virgin first so there is a reason why I cannot score sex w/o a relationship, regardless of me being a virgin. Chicken or egg. If you say lie to obtain a relationship that is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:31 AM
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Most people have no issues dating virgins when they’re young and inexperienced themselves Ah so basically most virgin men are fucked. Nice. Blue pill everybody
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:30 AM
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THEY BAN LOOKS POSTS BECAUSE THEY HATE ADMITTING IT HURTS MEN DISPROPORTIONALLY AND IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE DATING CRISIS
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:34 PM
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Again, literally who? Red pill is a wide encompassing of ideas, red pill itself dates back to the nineties from the matrix. There are countless avenues of red pill thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:35 AM
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appeal to authority. one "Author" of "redpill" does not equate to being what red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:50 AM
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I agree. Its why I hate men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:49 AM
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Its a good foot in the door for expatting out of this crappy country once they realize CoL is a fraction of the US. > the average man doesn’t need to go overseas just to find a women that will give them time of day I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:17 AM
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I see now, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:36 AM
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likewise. Another redditor commented his experience seems to suggest even younger and I agree present day. I think the porn exposure problem is the leading cause of dating issues we have. I want to make a thread about it but its not useful right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:17 AM
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pfft try 13. Average age of first porn viewership is 12
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:08 PM
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So physical attractiveness plays no role in you and women in your social circles and communities decision making for casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:08 AM
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get on tindr bait guy into dinner date make him pay rinse and repeat for food. lead guy on for a while ask him to buy you clothes or send you money attractive girl just do OF
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:15 AM
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Women are empathetic of foreigners they don’t know or their situation but not empathic to the men they exploit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:27 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:48 AM
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would you refuse to date someone who uses a sex toy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:21 PM
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The prostitution is legal there and regulated heavily. I can say the same about McDonald’s workers at 2am. Addicts and poor. I’m not saying force women into sex, I am saying acknowledge the consequences of sexless men. higher cortisol levels, lower dopamine levels, lower oxytocin levels. This is all linked to depression, anxiety, bpd, schizophrenia, suicide. You name it. Beyond the neurology it is also destructive to self worth. The male drive for sex is extremely painful and disabled people hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:31 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate your post. I disagree about the sex human right thing. I think in belgium or holland they have legal prostitutes, and there was a government program that paid for disabled men because they were sexless and it caused emotional pain. We also pay for condoms for other countries because we value them having sex. sexlessness is also linked to a mirade of illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:56 AM
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Im classic red pill that came from actual red pill communities not this twice-rewritten, reddit white-washed PC overton window family friendly PG version """red pill"""
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:34 AM
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Ive been told its my height like 5 times in this thead. I cant change a multitude of things about myself. Height plays a big role. personal responsiblity for what? Do you come at people with dwarfism, cerebral palsy, double amputations like that? "Yeah bro the reason you havent gotten a date is because youre an entitled arsehole."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:09 AM
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https://www.soocial.com/ceo-height-statistics/ "Height gives confidence" no people see taller people as authoritative and powerful. They are more well off in fights. Longer arms for sports and punching. It's just an advantageous trait to have overall. Also confidence isn't some magic wave your hand all your problems go away if you just have confidence... whatever confidence even means. Of course I can reverse this to people see short people as whiny, angry powerless children. "Napoleon Complex" …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:06 AM
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Well no, and I have never dated anyone. It's really a filter. You can tell when a woman doesnt want to engage with you regardless of asking them on date. body language, positioning, eye contact, you know. When so many women do this to me I have to find a reason and this is the most plausible to me. And its also true. Dating apps in themselves are one of the few ways left to engage with women and it's exacerbating the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:59 AM
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The world has wronged me. It's discrimination. Its an inalienable physical characteristic. Im mocked for, discriminated against, and lied to about my stature. but sure, stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and go "Lalalala!" as each generation has more and more men wanting to hit people with their cars as you hope it goes away on its own. This subreddit wouldnt exist if there wasnt a problem maam im not sure if you've broken that 4th wall yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:47 AM
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Well its not a binary system. To me it's impossible for someone to say height does not play any role in their decision making. At that point its a decision as to how much. If youre short that does not play in your favor, unless maybe a woman finds short men attractive? I base it off all my experiences. Online, Dating apps, talking to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:43 AM
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now you're telling me what I have and have not been told in my life? lmao. How old are you? Are you so old they never told you you can be anything when you grow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:34 AM
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Because it's like being back handed. Height doesn't; matter while im invisible to most of the dating market because of height. I cant not dwell on it. It's so obvious and feels like a personal attack. It's like a handicap. If I'm so great why cant people overlook my stature? Most tall guys are normal looking and not conventionally attractive I dont enjoy the weasly wording I see on the sub. "Alot" "Most" "Some" "Very few" its not definitive or factual. Its just a "yeah, but" however the but clau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:32 AM
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What are you talking about? Literally every other reply to something regarding height is just "height doesnt matter it's not real dont believe what other people say its her not you." I dont understand the mixed messaging nor why you are getting upset about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:23 AM
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I had suspected as much but there seems to be a lot of gas lighting around it. As if it's not real that height plays a role in dating, because in other parts of life it plays a clear part. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:13 AM
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I think youre gonna see a lot of women reply to this that being "sexy" for men means any number of things that go beyond physical appearance like status, job, money, "confidence," etc. And not physical characteristics that are sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:49 AM
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It’s a lot of pain to men as well who are not the kind of men women appreciate attracting to be shown it’s not for them. They are just the viewer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:38 AM
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I wont chase women I dont want. period. If it becomes "know your place" I would rather society discombobulate than be being told to date people I dont want to or dont date at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:00 PM
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"yea bro, just make 130k."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:41 AM
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You don’t need any of those things all you need is a jar o; brine to put your brain in. We can inject nutrients into you. Splitting hairs on human necessity is how we got gulags. Where do you draw the line? It’s actually just the time frame. If you starve to death over 40 years is it really starving to death? Are diseases morbid if they don’t kill got quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 10:54 PM
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Do you deserve to be safe from rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:23 AM
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If you provide people a voluntary place to burn the world down, the real world will burn down too. Smashing your belongings doesn’t make you less angry. It suppresses the anger and allows more of it to fester. That is scientifically proven. You seem to think this fake reality people will absorb themselves in will be used as a healthy coping mechanism. It won’t. If a woman rejects a man, and he can voluntarily enter a world where he can sexually assault and murder that woman, he absolutely will n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:46 PM
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we can’t just provide people with human connections. Yes we can. You can TALK to people. You can MEET people IN REAL LIFE. You go to a coffee shop and strike up a conversation. This is like saying I can’t fix the littering problem as you throw trash out your window. I agree, the government can’t resolve this. It’s a social issue. Your position isn’t callous, it’s crass. You’re arguing for modern day insane asylums and chronic sedation. Society will absolutely suffer from encouraging people to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:59 PM
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How do these numbers look when you include overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:37 PM
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If it’s not healthy, why are you suggesting it? I don’t want to alarm you, but some of the things you are saying are dehumanizing. You are treating people as the problem. Your rhetoric is eerily similar to another guy. “Last resort” = final solution “Leave society to those willing to progress” = get ride of undesirables Ironically feeding people this stuff is not progress at all. That is not a solution. It is just a treatment that helps you and no one else. And it helping you is completely debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:19 PM
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Because a significant number of the population checking out and choosing artificial, unreal, inanimate objects to supplement human relationship is harmful to them and the people around them. Spending hours of your day socializing with fake human beings is detrimental to your mental health and how you perceive other people. It is self evident. They will stop socializing in real life, they will quit jobs, abandon friends, stop seeing family, and that is bad for them, AND their social networks. DR.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:57 PM
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It is not a good thing at all. Like, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:39 PM
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Hierarchies have always existed and male competition isn’t a new phenomenon. It is very natural. Apes do it and so do pretty much every species. The male who can collect the most food for his future bachelorette is more desirable. And that shouldn’t need explaining as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:20 AM
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Canada would be easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:30 AM
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I also want to fuck teenagers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:21 AM
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that is sound logic. I have gone over this with people. therapy is expensive (don’t say insurance). It is not a magic bullet. Therapy is less effective for men. It is time consuming. I have spoken with therapists who say incels make them uncomfortable. It’s more of a gamble that I can’t afford to take. I’m not blaming or hating women. it is proven sexlessness can cause degradation of health. Increased cortisol, decreased oxytocin, decreased serotonin, decreased dopamine. All of which contribute …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:45 AM
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Have you considered the mental health implications of not having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:44 AM
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All of those are true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:12 PM
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Did I call you a Chad lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:36 PM
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You don’t deserve anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:08 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:04 PM
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I don’t want that shit when I’m in my thirties and fourties. Too little too late. Not to mention how radically different dating will 100% be when I get there. And of course the age factor. It’s always the haves telling the have nots, that “having” is over rated. The rich say money isn’t everything, the chads say sex isn’t everything, the smart say intellect isn’t everything. Always the people with better lives telling you how awesome life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:04 PM
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Why should I be cheated out of the young puppy love honey moon phase? If everyone got to date when they’re 20 I deserve to date someone 20 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:56 PM
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I’m trying to date now, what do you think “screwed over into my thirties and fourties” means
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:49 PM
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If I get screwed over well into my thirties by modern dating you bet your ass I’m going to try and date 20yr olds then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:41 PM
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I’m not wrong. Time to move on baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:22 AM
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I don’t have to read any appeal to authority tabloids to call myself or my beliefs red pill. I get my beliefs from the origin of the term “red pill”. Can you guess where that community might be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:54 PM
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I’m actually an incel but I can’t flair myself as such. No I disagree with that. I also don’t think any sect has bullet points about what everyone believes. Especially as new as an idea as red pill blue pill. It sounds like you “subscribe” to red pill only to sabotage it. I also think you are a double agent. Red pill is a system of beliefs like a personality trait. There isn’t a textbook that lays out every possible notion and defines all red piller beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:36 PM
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Why are men rapey violent and polygynous without being circular
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:21 PM
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Very valid. “Some short people have dating success therefore ALL short people can have dating success”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:15 PM
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I never said being married meant people were happy? Where did you read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:18 AM
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Well for one this is pessimistic. There are lots of relationships that go well past two years. My great grandparents have been married for 50. If your only interest in a relationship is that addictive dopamine hit and you justify switching partners to chase that you are a junkie. If that is your mindset your are selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:04 AM
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Men saying they like dating apps does not mean they like modern dating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:15 PM
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Because you can’t support a family off one salary now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:03 PM
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So ignoring morals, if I as a man wanted sex from a woman, how do I obtain sex from that woman? Or say sex in general
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:32 PM
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Ha, now you see what happened when women entered the workforce. Now two people have to work and the unpaid labor is still there. See what they did to you? They just wanted more workers so they can pay everyone less
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:30 PM
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There is a post up on this sub right now saying the exact opposite. here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:24 PM
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None of these men you are lecturing have ever lived with this privilege you speak of. Gender equality has been the norm for 30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:22 PM
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You don’t define need buddy. Move on
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:50 PM
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I don’t appreciate you calling what I say disgusting. It depends on how far you want to take the word “need” to mean. I find it repulsive when this is brought up because it just devolves into antihumanism. What’s a need? You know Maslow’s hierarchy calls sex a need just as much as food. but you interpolate a need to “dying without it on a time scale I define.” I will go ahead and be pedantic back: You don’t need anything but food water and shelter. We can stuff you in a 6x2 box with hard tacks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:58 AM
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If you never approach anyone, how did you have social circles at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:38 AM
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“Many women are open to casual sex” how many, though? Not a lot I will tell you. And they are more selective in their casual sex partners than men. Men need sex. You lose an order of magnitude of potential sex partners if you are upfront about it. Tindr is the magnum opus of this: a handful of attractive women are sought after by a ridiculous amount of men. 90%+ of whom are not getting any action and that is because tinders focus is hookup/casual sex. Is it reprehensible? Yes. But man’s gotta ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:57 AM
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MGTOW and incels are different groups. They are actually at odds a little. MGTOW tend to have romantic experience. So they can say “I’m swearing off women” whereas an incel wants sex (or a romantic relationship) and cannot get one. MGTOW tend to be older and after multiple failed relationships that are disastrous enough, they don’t simply see it worth dating or marrying. I am going to use MGTOW terminology here so please do not get mad at me: in these circles it is called “divorce rape.” The ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:27 AM
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The problem is blue pill treats therapy as a magic bullet. It is not. It is far less effective for men because it is effeminately geared to helping women, who talk more and articulate emotions better. Psychology is anywhere from 70-95% women. New psychologists are nearly 100% women. Thus, therapy is incredibly verbally based when men lack the ability to talk about their problems well. Throw in the necessity of cash to get it and the time to do it and you lose men - all for something that might n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:23 PM
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The plural of anecdote is data
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:34 AM
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I think even in a high male to female ratio it is still gamified and market-esque but men can’t quickly find a new girlfriend so they monopolize a single woman lest they can’t find another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:27 AM
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Well what you said generally applies to everyone. Everyone is connecting less and hanging out less. And it follows everyone is now miserable. I really do hate the “all x blame all y” as it’s just reductive and generalizes people. Even if I accept that all men are now all sad and that’s all men’s fault, it’s a little ridiculous. When half of the human population experiences the same symptom, no it’s probably not half the population to blame. I think society is to blame. To reiterate this isn’t ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:25 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:17 PM
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No one said anything about someone only being a paycheck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:13 PM
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An amount? Are you insinuating it’s a number that you can parade around with saying a men are uncaring of kids? I know a stay at home husband. I’ve known another that was one when he was younger. I’m not going to attach a number to it because that’s what you want. You can probably find a survey online somewhere of this exact question I’m sure, or make one yourself. But the reality is both people have to work now. One partner having the option to work exclusively at home is a luxury, and now that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:39 PM
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I didn’t say women didn’t work where are you getting that from? It’s literally the status quo. Child rearing and home fronting are as much of a job as any other. One partner works at home, one works at a job. Women’s inclusion into the workforce depreciated wages and diluted the labor supply. Now a working couple can’t afford an apartment and a small dog when one person could support a house a car two kids and a stay at home partner. There’s a reason why a growing number of people say they can’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:26 PM
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Sure, but it’s actually more important to PROVIDE for the children. I have to feed and house them above all else. Someone has to make money to make that happen. If it’s my wife so be it. I want to raise a genius, a lawyer or doctor. As successful as possible, more than me ideally. Teach them, feed them right, etc. but raising a kid can’t be done alone. However the responsibilities have to be divvied will be discussed in time. I do want a say how they’re raised even if I’m primarily the provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:50 PM
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