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Thousands of people literally do die from the house not being perfectly clean and tidy. People die tripping on things in the home and subsequently falling, unclean surfaces in places like the kitchen can lead to people contracting infections from ecoli salmonella, etc. and that’s just death alone, not to mention multitudes more of injuries and hospitalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:05 AM
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Herpes is such a not-a-problem that most doctors don’t even test for it when you get an STD screening. Two thirds of the population or more have some sort of herpes. Also, most people who get it are asymptomatic and those who do get symptoms, it’s little red dots that can get a little itchy. Everyone gets little red itchy dots on their skin in the form of acne, ingrown hairs, etc. Like, what lengths are you going to to never get any little red dots on your skin? Are you spending small fortunes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:48 PM
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I’ve yet to meet a single woman who thinks this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 11:39 PM
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A lot of men are extremely insecure and can’t handle being with a woman more successful than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:58 AM
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Nope - I certainly dont
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:48 PM
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Having achievements as a woman makes it harder to date, not just an “isn’t enough” thing, but an actual negative factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:26 PM
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The statistic you quoted from the analysis is an analysis of the CDC data. Do you not have basic knowledge of how to read studies and reference citations?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:25 PM
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It’s a CDC study - all CDC studies on sexual violence use the above set of definitions. Those ARE the definitions for the dataset
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:12 PM
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Here is the CDC guide of uniformed definitions https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/sv_surveillance_definitionsl-2009-a.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:07 PM
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Not all sexual assault is rape/forced to penetrate. Also, the definitions in the studies you cited includes non-consensual reception of oral sex for men but not for women. When we are talking sexual assault, we are also talking about sexual coercion, and unwanted sexual contact such as groping, and those statistics tell a much different story from the cherry-picked data set you’re using.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:09 PM
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I agree it’s not talked about enough, however there are two contributing factors in this, one of which I would argue you yourself are guilty of in your original post, and I will get to that. First off is the numbers game; studies vary in their numbers, but the range states that between 75-90% of all sexual assault perpetrators are men. Of those perpetrated by women, which is already a minority, a majority of those cases are against men. Female on female sexual assault is very uncommon ratio wise…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:27 AM
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Given the amount of eugenics advocacy I’ve seen lots of men tout in this subreddit, I assume it has something to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:02 PM
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I’m very attracted to men in blue collar jobs, working with the hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:09 PM
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Fred Rogers - duh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:51 PM
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All the examples I gave are all forms of media. But with the limiting you’re doing all you’re really saying is “women are more influenced by the forms of media that are predominantly consumed by women than men are.” It’s like saying “women have more preferences regarding tampons than men do,” sure, it’s true, but it’s not exactly saying much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:52 AM
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You’re focusing on a very small scope of pop culture in your post, and I think it may be affecting your perspective. I’m not influenced at all by rom-coms, as I don’t even watch them, but I’m certainly influenced by stand-up comedy, and I know a lot of men that are as well. Stand-up comedy, video games, television, YouTube, PODCASTS, advertisements… these are all a part of pop culture. So sure, if you heavily limit the scope of pop culture to forms of media predominantly consumed by women, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:12 AM
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That’s a really long winded way of saying “men should manipulate and deceive women to get what they want”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:24 PM
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Double yikes 🚩🚩🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:23 PM
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Yikes 🚩🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:12 PM
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Yikes 🚩🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:11 PM
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Yikes 🚩🚩🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:03 PM
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Came here to say this! Like, they are probably different women in the same forum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:59 PM
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Yup - an extensive sexual history has no impact on the qualities that make up a good partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:39 PM
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Traditionally, husband has leadership of the finances, the families relationship with outside society, etc. woman has leadership over the household and child rearing. There are two separate leaderships over different aspects of the family, not just the man having leadership over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:22 PM
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The problem is that as a woman, if you have a one-off dating a wealthier man, even if that’s not important to you, even if you take great care to make sure that all expenses of dating and gift giving are even financially, you will be treated as though you are a gold digger, no matter what. Hell, you even have the same problem if the guy is perceived as wealthy by others, and you actually make more money than they do, unless your going to great lengths to shower them with gifts and make your own …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:16 PM
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So modern skewed view of what traditional is - not actually traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:35 PM
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You know what else this world would have an awful lot of? …..human rights violations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:27 AM
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I am speaking my truth and experience. It’s not my responsibility to make the reality of my experience conform to your skewed version of the world. Maybe instead of accusing people of being mistaken about their reality, you ought to adjust yours, because it’s clearly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:34 PM
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Oh - I did fully read your post. You’re just wrong and I willing to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:54 PM
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Oh - they are a very large subsection of society. Just about every single mother of a little girl. So it still stands. Dressing up as a pink sparkly unicorn is very masculine indeed! Thanks for the clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:47 PM
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There is a group of women that find it attractive when men dress up as a pink sparkly unicorn, very many of them in fact. So still, by your definition, dressing up as a pink sparkly unicorn is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:15 PM
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It really depends on how long the chores take - if the breadwinning spouse works 40 hours a week and 8 hours a week commuting, any household chores/errands that go beyond 48 hours of work a week should be split evenly between both spouses. That’s a fair division of labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:13 PM
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Lol - this doesn’t work at all. I am a woman, and I find it very attractive when a man dresses up as a pink sparkly unicorn, therefore, dressing up as a pink sparkly unicorn is thereby masculine……
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:01 PM
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Please don’t refer to it as “porn pussy.” I think “fortune cookie vulva” is a much less disparaging term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:16 PM
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Only for the first 2 inches in - past that, somebody with more experience has better muscular build up, and will be tighter on the shaft. Not your fault you don’t know that if you’re going off experience though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:13 PM
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I think a good add on, is that just because a woman has a difference of opinion from you, does NOT mean that she lacks information/understanding of the matter at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:16 PM
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Urination after sex is to avoid urinary tract infections. It’s a good thing because it means she has awareness of her body and is avoiding issues that could arise from intercourse. If you want to help her out with this, make sure you are washing your hands shortly before intercourse, and bonus points if you can wash your genitals beforehand too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:59 AM
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You know what, you are actually partially right about this - the first 2 inches of a women’s vaginal opening for a promiscuous women are a bit looser, however, once you get past those two inches, that’s where you have a higher density of muscles in the cervix, where you would feel the heightened tightness occurring from frequent intercourse. I think best that explains the difference you’re seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:56 AM
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I want people to trust that when I say that I feel a certain way, that I actually feel that way. When I express my opinion on something, that is actually what my opinion is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:41 PM
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They deserve at least a couple hundred in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:21 AM
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Well first off, this is available to men, and there are many women who either do this or would if they could. However, largely due to pre-existing income disparity issues, you don’t have nearly as many women with the salaries capable of sustaining this type of behavior as you do men. Secondly, this type of relationship is realistically only available to women of certain classes of privilege; those who are exceptionally attractive, and those who have had the financial and socioeconomic ability to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:43 AM
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Having a go bag just in case isn’t something exclusive to live-in relationship situations, it’s a useful thing that many single adults have. Like let’s say there’s a wildfire that starts in your local area, or just a fire a few houses down in an urban situation, it’s a good idea to have a go bag to grab while you’re running out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:08 AM
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Münecat does. Pretty good job at explaining this already in those video - you can skip to the section on online dating: https://youtu.be/2dZLgw-Vo5k?si=cpAyk6Q2fMnRE-uo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:12 PM
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This is online dating data, and only applies to online dating. It doesn’t play out like this is real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:22 PM
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FYI - incel is short for “involuntary celibate.” The word involuntary means that it is not something that is subject to one’s own will and is not something that they have control over the outcomes of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:15 PM
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Because the leading voices in feminism aren’t trying to convince me that they have access to secret/hidden knowledge that society doesn’t want me to know. Especially not secret knowledge they will share with me after giving them money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:12 PM
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Yup - that’s how the grifters keep their victims on the never ending hamster wheel, by convincing them that it’s everybody else who is brainwashed when it’s really the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:56 AM
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Oh - these men definitely exist. It’s so prevalent that “fixing them up” has become the premise of several television shows, most notably, “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:01 AM
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Sounds like this man is a grifter and is literally selling men terrible advice and attitudes towards women. When you get past the first paywall, and fail, he then sells you another more “in depth” product. Do NOT listen to this man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:57 AM
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“Male Virgin” is non synonymous with “Incel.” While all “incels” are virgins, a guy being a virgin doesn’t make him an “incel.” The term “incel” specifically refers to individuals who lack self awareness and places full blame for their lack of sexual intercourse entirely on outside factors, while refusing to put effort into improving themselves to be a more appealing partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:50 AM
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Gorilla
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:43 AM
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My question was just as relevant as yours. What menstruation products do you prefer to use?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:33 PM
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You didn’t answer my question of which menstrual product you prefer to use, so we are even. Both irrelevant questions have been left unanswered
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:04 PM
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How about this, I’ll answer your question after you answer this one: which product do you prefer when you are menstruating, tampons, pads, cup, or disc?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:25 PM
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Okay sweetie, I’m going to make this easy for you, since you have trouble with basic logic. If somebody is concerned about somebody taking advantage of them for their money, it’s because they have more than enough money to support themselves, and if somebody has enough money to support themselves, then they do not need somebody else’s money in order to be financially supported. I hope that clears up - and best of luck on your high school midterms coming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:15 PM
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No it’s not - you’re looking at the median household income for households where the head of household is between that age range. Household income includes the income of all the people in the household, not just the top earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:01 PM
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The table they are showing is median HOUSEHOLD income based on the age of the householder. It’s not just people who own homes, but the household income it’s measuring more often than not is the combined salary of multiple people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:58 PM
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Y’all are quoting the statistics wrong. The table shows household income, meaning the combined income of everyone in the household, not just the income of one person. If you look at median wage, not median household income in the states, for ages 25-34 it’s about $53k and for ages 35-44 it’s about $63.5k https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/average-salary-by-age/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:56 PM
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How about instead of arseing about - how about you first give an explanation as to how somebody would be able to support themselves and an additional person, but not be able to support just themselves alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:44 PM
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I want to date somebody who is able to support themselves so I can be assured that they are not dating me because they need my income in order to be supported.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:35 PM
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How about you stop trying to tell people what their thought process is. You’re terrible at guessing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:28 PM
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The red pill is a set of ideas perpetuated by grifters in order to sell coaching schemes and other scams. A large part of the grift is getting men to treat women in such a disrespectful manner that no woman would want to date them, thus creating a viscous cycle where the victims return to the grifters for more advice. It’s sickening. “Blue pill” refers to folks who haven’t been convinced to think this way by the grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:24 PM
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What the fuck are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:20 PM
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Let’s look at a situation where he knocked over a glass of milk. “Damnit! You made me spill my milk” “Me? I wasn’t even touching you, I’m on the other side of the room” “Yeah but you talked to me which made me knock it over, can you come here and clean it up, since you made me spill it”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:49 PM
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It’s not based on the presence in the forums that makes him emotionally immature, it’s him blaming everything but himself for his lack of sex that is emotionally immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:34 PM
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When an emotionally mature person isn’t achieving a certain goal that they want, they self reflect about what they themselves can be doing to improve their chances for success and take a certain amount of accountability. That’s the emotionally mature response. If somebody is legitimately arguing that none of his situation is not affected in any way by any his decisions, that imparticular shows lack of emotional maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:36 PM
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There are times I would definitely be be telling him the level of formality he needs to be hitting for a specific function, or the function the clothing needs to have for a specific activity. For instance, we are planning a trip to Vegas and will be going to some night clubs with dress codes, so I will be informing him of the types of things he will need to be wearing to get in, as he’s not accustomed to clubs with dress codes where he is from. On the other hand, if we are going hiking on that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:45 AM
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I want my man’s salary to be enough to support himself. I don’t want to be with a man who is using me for my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:30 AM
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Nope. One of the key qualities I look for in a partner is emotional maturity, and he doesn’t have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:27 AM
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A woman having multiple sexual partners does not affect her ability to pair bond. The study this false claim comes from was a study done on prairie voles, and not humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:21 AM
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Whatever bro - have fun with premature aging
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:54 AM
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Not for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:13 AM
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So basically, you are trying to get wrinkles as quickly as possible is what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:02 AM
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You need moisturizer and sunscreen bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:59 AM
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So you don’t care if you get acne? I’m confused
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:48 AM
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So men do care about skincare or don’t care about skincare? Make up your mind FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:29 PM
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Yup! Even for people who become adept at spotting the manipulators, it still takes a month or two. When you first start dating somebody, they are going to be mindful to be putting their best foot forward, and it takes time for them to start to slip up. We’re not talking assholes here, we’re talking your run of the mill douche canoe. These douche canoes simply know what the green flags are, and they do them for the woman at the beginning. You generally are not seeing how they interact with others…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:32 PM
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Yup! That’s what happens. Even when you get good at spotting it, it can take a month or two for it all to spill out. For the most part, guys are good at the very beginning, but they are not master minds and can’t keep it up, and it will start to slip subtly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:25 PM
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Yeah - because a ska show is a sexually charged event. FFS, just because it’s a place that people gather doesn’t make it “sexually charged.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:27 AM
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In this thought experiment, there isn’t a requirement that she does everything you do, the only requirement is that she cannot do anything that you don’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:37 PM
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These are basic etiquette rules you follow even with just a platonic friend. They are certainly still alive and well in todays world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:45 PM
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That’s not an accurate analogy. One that’s more accurate is a guy who always wanted to be a fight winner, so he went out to fight, lost a couple times, and then refused to ever g out and fight again, but instead sits home and complains about all the guys who are still winning fights, and then when people offer to coach him to be the best fighter he can be so that he can eventually win a fight or two himself, ends up arguing with the coach that he shouldn’t have to get into a fight in order to wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:02 PM
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I was speaking out more of the complexities of etiquette, even assuming a societal situation stipulating that the man is the one to pay. There is a lot of nuance behind this, even among friends dining together, that should be taken into consideration before attempting to do this as a passive test. No woman likes to be “tested” on a date, it’s really demeaning. You can just talk about your opinions on it, or discuss payment arrangements If it matters that to you. If a dude isn’t careful about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:05 PM
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I was speaking out more of the complexities of etiquette, even assuming a societal situation stipulating that the man is the one to pay. There is a lot of nuance behind this, even among friends dining together, that should be taken into consideration before attempting to do this as a passive test. No woman likes to be “tested” on a date, it’s really demeaning. You can just talk about your opinions on it, or discuss payment arrangements If it matters that to you. If a dude isn’t careful about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:04 PM
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This!!! They will slam down the input of people taking pity on them and genuinely trying to help them out with things they know that have worked for others in their situation. I’m convinced most of them have the victim mindset where they just want to cry “woe is me” without ever taking any type of action to improve their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:58 PM
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I know that if I have reason to believe that the other person is definitely paying, like they said “I’d like to treat you to dinner” - I will try to keep what I order to about the same price point as what he has ordered out of politeness. If I’m paying, I’m going to order whatever the hell I want. I may go out for a dinner maybe every other week, so if I’m paying, I’m making the most out of it, so I’d be really pisses if I chose something that wasn’t the dish I wanted most because he indicated h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:55 PM
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Oh yeah - I’m the same way, however cultural customs exist, and I just wanted to highlight the importance of discussing payment prior to ordering in order to avoid any potential minefields that could result in your “test” turning away a well intentioned woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:51 PM
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Why does my boyfriend need to go to everything with me? Personally, I’m in a long distance relationship, so if I don’t go out without my boyfriend, then I’m not going out ever…. Even if it’s not long distance, maybe he has other obligations that night, maybe he just really really doesn’t like the artist, maybe It’s a girls night out when I’m spending time with just my girls. Sure, for some guys, it will never work, but at least if I have already told him “I have a boyfriend” it makes it a hell o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:28 PM
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Why should my choice of what to do be determined by the potential actions of men? Should I just never go out to see my favorite music artists live because of the potential of getting hit on at the shows? No - I’m just going to use the most effective tool in my Arsenal and say “I have a boyfriend” and go on living my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:20 PM
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It’s not even just violence women are concerned about. Out in social situations, women are just looking to have a good time, and there is a legitimate concern about a guy not taking a “no” or “not interested” as a complete answer. They end up trying to convince you otherwise, maybe it could cross the line into the harassment, they could end up catch them staring at you throughout the night. Maybe you are trying to meet men you are interested in, but he keeps trying to talk to you in a way that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:15 PM
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It should be, but many men take that as an invitation to try to convince you otherwise. They shouldn’t, but many do, and it becomes harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:06 PM
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In the states, a lot depends on who did the inviting/who picked the restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:00 PM
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There is a lot of outside etiquette to consider here, and no, I am NOT talking about a male expectation to pay. Like, who invited who out in a date? Who chose the restaurant? Has a commitment already been made to pay? Is the person who didn’t choose the restaurant familiar with the restaurant and their pricing/portion sizes? Has payment been discussed prior to said date? It can be a minefield of mines that can quickly make you look like an AH to a well intentioned woman who would otherwise like …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:57 PM
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There has actually been polling done on this, over half of women prefer it, in addition to the women who don’t care one way or the other. Maybe it’s best not to make generalizations before doing a quick search about their accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:19 AM
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Seriously? You’re getting so triggered by the thought of having to admit that you expect women to do things that you don’t uphold yourself to, that you had to come in here and knowingly debate the premise of a thought experiment. Like you could have just said nothing and kept scrolling. But how dare a woman put a thought experiment into the world that points out the existence of a double standard for women… is that what you’re seriously on about right now? FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:59 PM
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It’s a thought experiment. Just like the trolley problem, or Schrödinger’s cat is a thought experiment. It doesn’t matter who is making you pull the lever, it doesn’t matter who put the cat in the box. Please for the love of god and football, read the Wikipedia article on thought experiments before responding again https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:44 PM
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Please, show me where I have changed the question at any point. This is a thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:39 PM
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Who is making the man shave his face in this scenario??? Who??? Do you seriously resent feeling compelled to shave so much that you feel the need to rework a simple thought experiment to an entirely different set of circumstances than how it was written?? Do you not understand how thought experiments work? You have indicated that you do not shave your legs. Would you or wouldn’t you date a woman who does not shave her leg?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:35 PM
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I like the look of a guy having shaved legs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:28 PM
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Full facial here, sideburns, chin, lower lip, jaw, I wax the entire “beard area” in addition to getting my eyebrows shaped 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:26 PM
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Tons of women shave their faces and engage in other sorts of hair removal on the face. I would even wager that most do. How could it possibly be unfair to the dude? In this hypothetical scenario, the dude is free to do whatever regimen he wants to - he is not the one limited, she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:23 PM
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Nope - not same routine, you don’t shave your legs so then she doesn’t shave her legs that’s the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:10 PM
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Would you or would you not date a woman who doesn’t shave her legs or armpits and spends the same amount of time on her hair as you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:08 PM
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What does your regimen include?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:21 PM
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Would you date a woman who didn’t shave her legs ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:21 PM
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Do you shave your armpits or legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:20 PM
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Do you shave your legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:20 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about - retinol and salicylic acid are not placebos, but have gone through multitudes of peer reviewed studies, and are even prescription medications in certain concentrations. It literally is that easy. These men just want to play the victim card all day long while wearing clothing that cuts off the lines of their figure in ways that makes them look shorter and fatter than they really are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:54 PM
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Dwight from the office is another great example
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:38 PM
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How frequently do you get your eyebrows and facial hair waxed? How often do you shave your entire body? How many steps is your twice-daily skincare routine? How much do your skincare products cost? How frequently do you darken your ski tone temporarily? How often do you force yourself to go hungry in order to not be bloated? And don’t get me started on makeup - most of the men who claim that they prefer women with no makeup will do so while pointing to the face of a woman wearing a lot of makeup…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:37 PM
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Lol thanks for proving my point bro Skincare is a major industry for a reason, chemical compounds such as retinol greatly smooth out the skin, vitamin C brightens the skin and reduces dark spots, salicylic acid gets rid of acne. There is an entire science behind selecting clothing for your specific body shape. Most men wear clothes that are too big for them. Literally just look it up on YouTube, there are tons of tutorials on this. While yes, it cannot take a 2 in looks to an 8, it can take said…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:14 PM
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You know - I posted recently about how it’s hard for me to take men seriously when they complain about not being able to attract women when they themselves are not taking the steps completely under their control to maximize their appearance. It was surprising how men assumed I was talking about basic hygiene; not eyebrow shaping, not properly fitting clothes, not targeted daily skincare routines. So many men reject these commonplace actions expected of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:43 PM
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Yeah - but if I pay for the meal, then I don’t have to deal with people blaming me for his behavior. I actually pay for the whole date myself for this reason, nobody, even the biggest misogynist will sympathize with his complaints if he’s the one who got the free meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:06 PM
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Sweetie, I understand that styling is more than just basic hygiene, but it is something that something like 70% or more heterosexual men struggle with. But I don’t blame you, men are unjustly socialized against these sorts of things. For example, less than 15% of men either pluck or wax their eyebrows, a basic of grooming that significantly changes the appearance of one’s facial features. Only 11% of men have a daily skincare routine, and of those 11% not all of them are using a routine that max…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:56 AM
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Bro, stop twisting my words to make yourself right. First, I alnowledged right from the beginning that this observation was based on my interactions, and how I have noticed they all share this same quality. Secondly, when talking about not styling themselves in the way that most flatters them, at least in the US, we are talking about a trait that a strong majority of men share. In fact there are a lot of societal pressures on men to specifically not take time and effort attending to their appear…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:10 AM
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The improvements bring him to the level where he will be able to find a partner. Less attractive men, when they have good attitudes as well, are able to attract women without having tons of money. Of course nothing is going to take you to the top echelons of attractiveness, but they will make a man attractive enough to find partners as long as there are not issues in the personality department. You need to work with what you’ve got though. Women are socialized from a young age on how to do this,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:26 AM
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And here’s a reverse example https://preview.redd.it/9myznnta3byb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00e147cbe9ed7b28fca6908f24bb0f950e314d8e
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:13 AM
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In the meantime, I’ll give some real life examples about the huge difference that even simple styling makes. You see this all the time in film and television as an example; when directors and producers want a character to be portrayed as highly unattractive, they don’t hire an unattractive actor, they use styling to make an otherwise attractive person appear unattractive. A great example is the character Dwight from the office. RAINN Wilson was given a bad haircut that has been styled poorly, mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:44 AM
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Because there are many men who will turn to harassment, name calling, and vulgarity if they feel they are entitled to having sex for paying for the date, and that’s what we don’t want to deal with. We don’t want to receive a bunch of text messages for hours on end demanding sex, because even if we block the person, they will come up with new ways to contact us to harass us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:37 AM
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Lol that’s not even how survivorship bias works - firstly, survivorship bias would mean that I said all men are like this because all the men I have encountered are like this, which is not what I am saying. I am specifically acknowledging that this only applies to the ones I have encountered. Secondly, survivors bias is about focusing on those that were successful, not the individuals who fail. I am speaking about men who are failing to take control of the things they have control of, not the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:30 AM
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Sure. Whatever you think will get your point across - crop out the face if you wish
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:54 PM
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You can post them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:53 PM
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Screenshots exist, and you’re able to post photos on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:52 PM
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As I said before - show me a man who is doing everything right when it comes to things within his control, and I will take his complaints seriously. I have yet to see such a man in my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:48 PM
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And you do realize that a height preference is one of the first preferences to be dropped by women who do have a preference right?? Like only 17% of guys are 6 foot or more, while 61% of men between 25 and 54 are either married or living with a romantic partner. Even more men are in committed relationships with women they don’t live with. It’s a literal statistical impossibility for height to matter as much as you say it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:36 PM
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That’s not even remotely true. What’s shown by data is that height doesn’t play the role you think it does https://www.menshealth.com/uk/fitness/lifestyle/a27417524/height-actually-doesnt-matter-to-girls-according-to-new-study/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:31 PM
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Cool - I will take their complaints seriously once they have made the effort to take control the things they do have control over. I have yet to meet a man in the real world who complains about not meeting women who doesn’t put any effort into the parts of his appearance he can easily change. Not a single one, and I’ve met multitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:28 PM
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There are literally studies on how men are struggle to get dressed: https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/men-have-absolutely-no-idea-what-to-wear-new-survey-finds.html I’m not going to trust somebody who hasn’t shown they are a doctor to give me medical advice, so I’m not going to trust somebody’s own self-assessment on how they dress is they don’t have proper education on it. Or, Maybe you just know that I’m right, and you know you don’t have an actual counter example, and you’re just trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:25 PM
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It literally isn’t, you are thinking build. Posture is how you hold your body. Here is a great video showing how to fix posture https://youtu.be/5R54QoUbbow?si=bUzqfslZ6V6gpibE Side note - great example of a guy with an ugly face who took care of absolutely all those things within his control, went from a probable 2 or 3 without taking care of things like grooming and skin care, all the way up to a solid 6 at least. He’s short too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:22 PM
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Because the majority of straight men do not know how to wear properly fitting clothes when they think they do. There are entire television shows surrounding this. Unless the man is showing me a resume that indicates he has received specialized training on how to style men’s clothing, in which case I don’t need proof, then yeah because my life experience has shown that every single man who complains about their looks keeping them from finding women has had serious issues wrong AND see no problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:12 PM
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None of them have actually shown their appearance. Most men don’t know how to dress in properly fitting clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:44 PM
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I’ve literally seen this happen to a former colleague of mine. He fixed all the simple things and found the love of his life. Heavily autistic on top of it. Him and his girlfriend are about to move in together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:47 PM
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I’m just saying what I have observed every single time I have encountered it. I am more than open to somebody showing me a counter example though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:31 PM
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Okay - as I’ve already said, the moment I encounter a man in the real world complaining about not being able to meet a woman, and he has taken control of every aspect of his appearance that he can control, I will take his complaints seriously. However, every single man who I have heard make such complaints in the real world, they have not done so. I have yet to encounter an exception to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:10 PM
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No - for the men I have encountered, it’s things like greasy hair, wrinkled and I’ll fitting clothes, unkempt beards, really basic stuff. When I’ve encountered men who complain in the real world, this type of stuff is the case Every. single. Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:07 PM
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Posture is huuuuggeee and folks don’t realize how important it is. I’ve gone on online dates with folks I found very attractive in pictures, and was immediately turned off by their posture and how they carried themselves. Meanwhile, I’ve met men who when just seeing them sitting across the bar, we’re not very attractive, and their attractiveness when yup significantly once I saw the way they carry themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:32 AM
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It’s so hard to take their complaints seriously when there are so many aspects that would turn women off in even the most physically attractive men. Like, I don’t feel like folks have a right to complain about these things if they are not putting in a minimum effort. Do that, and if it’s still an issue, than complain away and I’ll be happy to take you seriously at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:30 AM
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Because all the men I’ve met in the real world who do this have some very simple improvements they can make that they don’t. For example, one guy I know who does this has very greasy hair all the time, I’ll fitting and wrinkled clothes, and a hunched over posture. As for your height comment, the height issue only really applies to guys under 5’5 - most women just want somebody taller than them, not that silly 6foot thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:28 AM
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Why is it that so many men who complain about their appearance keeping women from showing interest in them, don’t do anything to address the parts of their appearance they have full control over?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:19 AM
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If you look back in the archaeological record, men and women were much equals, both men and women were both hunters and gatherers. Women held leadership positions in societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:51 AM
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Acting like any animal behavior sets the basis for human psychology is fallacious. That’s my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:46 AM
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70-80% of attractiveness is stuff that are within a persons control. I’m literally talking about physically very unattractive people, who take control of the things they can control and have success. Every single man in the real world who I have seen complain about not getting any interest in women is neglecting the things they can control Every.Single.One. I’ve encountered a lot of men in the real world who complain, and every single time there are things they can be doing to make themselves mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:44 AM
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From what I’ve seen in the real world, all the men who don’t get attention because of appearances, it’s almost entirely things that are 100% in their control: - greasy hair - unflattering haircut - wrinkled and I’ll fitting clothes - bad posture - negative tone of voice - neglecting a skincare routine - poor beard maintenance There are lots of physically unattractive men who get attention from women, but they all take control of the things they can control, and it’s the ones who don’t who get le…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:33 AM
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Well I haven’t seen you post a rant on this sun about how you never meet women. I clearly stated that my interpretation was based on what I had seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:26 AM
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There are so many threads on here where the guy is asking what he’s doing wrong where he straight up refuses to do anything social whatsoever, so yeah, that’s what I see a lot of in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:17 AM
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The problem I’ve seen is that you’ll get the “not all men” response even when you’ve been very selective about your language to make it clear that you are indeed not talking about all men. Most, a considerable amount, many, a lot of, these are all phrases to say “not all men” but it still gets treated as if you are referring to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:33 AM
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Lol - I have a theory that whoever started calling it “going Dutch” the guy didn’t actually like the woman that much….
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:49 AM
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Lol, I remember one guy, I paid, and he still tried to hold the gas money getting out to the date over me - he got blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:47 AM
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Yeah - I always insist on paying for the first date for both of us if I can, too many men will hold it over a woman like they are owed physical intimacy for paying, even if they split the bill because they still paid for their meal. The worst reaction - he still is very vocal and insisting that he is the one who pays the bill, and won’t shut up about it until I finally repent and just want to go home, only for him to hold it over me later on that he paid for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:46 AM
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They get zero interest because they don’t go out to social settings with what I’ve seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:39 AM
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Most men that are struggling don’t do these things. Practically all the men on this sub are also incredibly emotionally immature 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:51 PM
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Approach a woman as a person and not as an object. Do NOT approach them by complimenting their body of physical features. If you must start by complimenting something, compliment her outfit, the way she styled her hair, her handwriting, etc. if you really must start out with a compliment, make it something about who she is as a person, not who she is as an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:14 PM
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Who the hell is claiming that all men are violent? The closest thing that anyone is acknowledging is that most violence comes from men, however not all men are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:10 PM
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Nope. Just be kind, emotionally mature, don’t have a garbage personality, take care of your physical appearance/hygiene, and fix your posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:08 PM
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I just told you what myself and those I know disprove. And of course I have flaws. Everybody has flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:56 PM
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There is no such thing as a boring hobby. People with hobbies are not boring. It’s the people without hobbies that are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:34 PM
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Myself, 20 or more of my friends, and all of my female coworkers are all individuals who value personality, virtue, kindness, support, emotional maturity and other such traits over attractiveness, financial success, and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:21 PM
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It’s not demonstrably true - I can name counterexample after counterexample after counterexample. It’s what red pullers want to be true so they don’t have to take accountability for themselves and just blame it all on outside forces beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:01 PM
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Ummm how is it based on evolutionary psychology, if that was the case, TRP would be aiming for a more matriarchal society where women have multiple partners, just like our closest evolutionary ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:58 PM
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Yeah - seems like your problem isn’t your looks but your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:40 PM
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Well, there are a lot of threads in this subreddit about how women ought to pick better men, soyou should check there for the advice they give women. But honestly, the knowledge comes from actually talking to the woman as a human being and not as an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:38 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:51 PM
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You’ve got it wrong, it’s not that younger women don’t want to date you because you look like an older guy, it’s because you are an older guy. Most women stick to their generational peers when it comes to relationships. It’s easier to build a great relationship when you have the same generational understandings and worldviews. A lot of women are actually very attracted to older looking men who are about the same age as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:28 PM
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How is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:59 AM
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That’s generally the age range when both men and women are both fiscally and physically able to have kids and raise a family. Very very few under 25 have the financial means to support a family, and very few over 55 are capable of having offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:57 AM
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Why should a woman get in a relationship with somebody who doesn’t have the emotional maturity to build a healthy relationship? That’s just asking for trauma and unhappiness? Most women are happy to sacrifice their preferences in the looks department for qualities that make a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:56 AM
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61% of all men in the US between the ages of 25 and 54 are either married or living with a romantic partner. Of the 39% that are not, many of them are also in committed relationships with women, just not living together. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/10/05/rising-share-of-u-s-adults-are-living-without-a-spouse-or-partner/ In the US, only 14.5% of men are 6 feet or taller, as an example. So the trope that women only go for guys that are 6 feet or taller is a statistical impossibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:53 AM
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Women drop their preferences on height, appearance, and salary ALL THE TIME. What women actually care about for long term relationships is emotional maturity, and that’s the standard that never gets dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:28 AM
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THIS! Social hobbies are key! I’ve seen many many older autistic men create social circles through the local standup comedy open mic scene. And open mics happen on a regular weekly basis, they end up hanging out with eachother at a minimum once a week if not more, going to different mics frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:35 AM
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What activities are you engaged in outside of work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:31 AM
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It is VERY possible to establish new social circles when you are older, but it involves developing interests and hobbies that get you out of the house. You can’t just sit at a bar and hope to meet people, social circle building is done around shared interests done in groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:30 AM
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I didn’t - I acknowledged that it happens to happen more than I expected, however the length of time he took and the description he gave of having to actively search made it clear that it is still much more common for men to do is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:28 AM
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Liberal. I’m pro choice and believe in comprehensive and compulsorily sex education. My views on sex, gender, relationships, and dating more largely stem from my atheism and religious equivalent beliefs than my political beliefs. But to be clear, I am not an ex religious atheist, there was never practice of religion in my life. I make the distinction because I know many men who are ex religious atheists tend to drop their skepticism when it comes to gender, sex, relationships, at the door, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:42 PM
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Not sure if this something that you are aware of, but women are capable of having more than one partner in their lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:17 AM
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Oh boy - the whole “women aren’t capable of independent thought” trope. You do realize that even in the most conservative state, Wyoming, less than 50% of the population identifies itself as conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:08 AM
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Thanks for the mansplanation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:07 AM
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Of course time vets things - but a lot of the times, it gets figured out when the abuse starts to happen, not before. How does one identify it before having to undergo abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:35 AM
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Oh these comments from men are going to make me laugh so much!! Men in this sun love to blame women for being abused, and act like it’s so fucking obvious to point out red flags. I’m willing to bet you’re not gonna be told any actual red flags from these men. That’s the way things work around here. I’m willing to bet though that even if somebody shares an actual red flag criteria, it’s going to be something that didn’t pop up in any of your last relationships BEFORE committing yourself to him. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:29 AM
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When did I say anything about touching. Touching isn’t always a part of flirting, it’s just feigning interest for a short period to keep yourself safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:56 PM
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It happens enough that it’s happened to me and other people I know. You just sort of placate the person until you’re in a safe situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:54 PM
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If my partner is all alone at a bar waiting for his friends to get there, and a person he feels physically intimidated by is trying to flirt with him and he asses the situation to determine that placating that individual with fake insincere flirting is a way to keep himself safe until his friends arrive, he should feel more than welcome to do so. I do not want my partner to ever put himself in a spot where he may feel like he’s putting himself in harms way just because he’s in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:44 PM
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I have plenty of autistic and neurodivergent male friends who are in very loving committed relationships with women. They are all paired up with other women with the same conditions, and there is a great baseline of mutual understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:39 PM
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I accept the stories as true, and now I have been shown that they are true, I’m not debating that. I just think it’s still telling that it took a really concerted effort of actively searching to find these examples is all, and that it took 2 hours or so to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:55 PM
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It’s not okay for a woman in a monogamous relationship to sincerely flirt with men, at least not without express permission from their partner. Sometimes flirting is done insincerely as a protection mechanism to hold off a man until she can get to a safe place where there are others around / she’s able to link up with her friends. That flirting doesn’t count because it’s not sincere, it’s a safety mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:14 PM
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There are many support groups and the like for autistic and neurodivergent individuals who are great places to meet others. All the autistic men that I know who are in happy relationships have met their partners through such support groups and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:09 PM
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Have you tried dating autistic and socially inept women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:24 PM
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The standards that most women have are clearly not what you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:23 PM
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Nope. Not in the slightest. It’s actually a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:50 PM
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I think the fact that you had to actively search for stories that applies proves my point however. One happens wayy wayy more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:48 PM
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Okay - show me an example of a woman doing this to a man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:41 PM
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Yes. It would. I can easily guide you to hundreds of examples on the opposite end. There are entire Facebook groups dedicated to sharing these screenshots. So stop stalling and show evidence. If what you say is true, it should only take a few seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:35 PM
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I did read it. You still haven’t provided examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:58 PM
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<image> Here’s another. Your turn. This should be quite easy if what you say is true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:45 PM
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All I’m seeing now is you refusing to provide evidence to counter my point. Here is an example <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:44 PM
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This is just on generalized cyber aggression. I’m asking to provide specific examples of women going ballistic on a man who has rejected her romantic advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:34 PM
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Okay - show me examples
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:52 PM
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You asked for a solid number, I gave you one that I felt was appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:41 PM
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How about a dozen. One for each time this has happened to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:39 PM
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So what you’re telling me is your not able to show me examples of women acting the way we’ve seen multitudes of men react after having their romantic advances rejected. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:25 PM
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Show me examples of women going ballistic and being generally terrible aggressive individuals upon being rejected by a man. I’ve seen this happen over and over again when a woman rejects a man, but not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:07 PM
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The men who think women are automatically less attractive once they turn thirty, are the men you don’t want to be dating anyway. If you’re concerned about skin aging, start using a low dose retinol serum as a part of your skincare regimen if you haven’t started yet. Otherwise, enjoy your thirties, they are way better than your twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:05 PM
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Those with Narcicistic personality disorder are the main culprits for this type of abuse. Folks with this disorder are found around the world. Unfortunately though, unless you’ve dealt with them specifically, they are very hard to spot
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:02 PM
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Unfortunately, a lot of abusers are held in very high regard by their community and peers, and the abuse only happens behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:35 PM
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Exactly - you don’t know her feelings, that’s why you think “hey would I want some stranger staring at me?” “do people usually welcome people staring at them?” And you come to the reasonable conclusion that it’s much more likely that she doesn’t want you staring at her. That’s treating somebody as a person. Blowing past all that and not even considering the persons feelings on what you are doing, that’s when you are treating them as an object. Thereby objectifying them, because you are certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:50 PM
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You’re literally not taking her feelings on it into account, you are just staring at her object - that’s textbook objectification
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:16 PM
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Did you get her consent prior to staring at her? If not, that’s objectification as you are not bothering to consider what she as a person wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:24 PM
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I think you’re omitting the fact that a woman does not need to engage in sexual intercourse to orgasm. Masturbation exists and women do masturbate. Even a virgin is going to know what an orgasm feels like, and will be able to determine when her partner isn’t making her orgasm. Men are not able to keep a partner from learning what an orgasm ought to feel like regardless of her sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:08 PM
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Gross - swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:13 PM
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That’s because a lot of them are grifters. They are purposely unhelpful in order to get folks coming back fro more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:59 PM
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God forbid you meet a fat woman in person, and then let them know that you’re not interested in moving forward with anything. Or you could even ask about how recent the pictures are in advance of a date. Not to mention that there are many other ways to put it in your profile that don’t put people down so broadly. Long story short, not wanting to put in the effort to be tactful about how you address that you aren’t attracted to a certain demographic is not an acceptable justification for putting …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:25 PM
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Where exactly did I advocate a double standard where women should be able to do this but not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:14 AM
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Actually, the women in this sub pretty much stick to the red flags identified by experts in the domestic violence prevention space. The problem is, the vetting suggested by such experts, most men on this sub fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:13 AM
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First of all - Ick, red flag 🚩rigid gender roles are one of the signs of a potential abuser, and according to this subreddit, us as women are supposed to be constantly vetting men because it’s our fault if we end up picking an abuser. Otherwise though, I’d say it’s neutral, like if somebody wants to pay, they are more than welcome to pay. However it is wrong to expect something in return for paying or to simply expect somebody to pay if they haven’t offered or committed themselves to doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:05 AM
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You need to focus on creating spaces where socially abnormal women feel space.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:56 AM
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I did back when I was in high school from time to time, and then I grew up and started acting like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:53 AM
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Men on this sub: “women need to pick better men if they don’t want to get abused” Women on this sub: lists out very valid red flags they go by to “pick better men” Men on this sub: “No!! How dare you go by criteria that excludes me from the running, when I say to pick better men, I meant to pick me instead” Women on this sub:…… Men on this sub: continues to show even more red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:48 AM
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Where was I advocating for this to happen to men or that doing so is okay?????
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:32 PM
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I cannot think of an example where either I or witnessed another women making this statement. I mean I’ve heard similar comments when a guy is dating a woman with an absolute garbage personality that he is only putting up with it because of the sex he is getting out of the relationship. But I’ve never heard any woman using it in reference to the physical appearance of the man’s partner. I mean, the woman who puts down other women is straight up garbage as a person, and I do my best to avoid hang…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:48 PM
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What college are you going to where folks still split up into labeled clicks and bulky eachother? Like even in community college the individuals who partake in that sort of behavior get shot right down to the bottom of the social hierarchy. Much less in the real adult world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:45 PM
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Swipe left!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:36 PM
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Your attitude is akin to the same attitudes that most of not all abusers have. Therefore, in accordance with the vetting you say I need to be doing - Swipe left!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:36 PM
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Yes, however basic vetting is looking for signs of victim blaming, it’s one of few things folks can go off of. All abusers end up blaming their victims for their abuse. Avoiding men who show this pattern is a highly effective way of protecting oneself. Not all men who victim blame are abusers, but all abusers victim blame. If somebody is advocating that abuse victims just need to pick better partners and that it’s their fault for failing to get, a woman is well within reason to pass on that guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:34 PM
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Yup - you fail vetting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:18 PM
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I’ve been able to avoid abusive relationships since my last counter. I’ve just learned to avoid men who express the sentiment, and it has kept me in the clear. Yes - all women should be taught how to identify signs of an abusive partner, and they should be mindful to do so. However, the man who is blaming abuse victims for not picking better partners, is something that she should vet against, especially if he is blaming his own lack of success on women “not picking better.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:17 PM
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I vet for whether or not a person engages in any sort of victim blaming, either full victim blaming or partial victim blaming. If they do, it’s a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:57 AM
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Yes - I have learned to get myself. And guess what vetting has been most successful…. It’s avoiding men who express the sentiment “women just need to pick better men.” I had one guy fool me once, and I never got fooled again, and I vet all the time, and my vetting says to stay away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:43 AM
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The thing is, a lot of those “bad boys” are only seen as such by other men who aren’t getting the girl. Like, a lot of these exiting “bad boys” are actually fiercely protective of the women in their life, and exceptionally loyal to their partners. In these instances where women end up complaining, what happens is the men become very overprotective to the point where it starts causing issues in the relationship and drives the woman to leave. Like, it doesn’t go all the way to full on abuse, but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:39 AM
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One of the other signs is somebody willing to dictate how somebody feels, especially when the person has already told them the opposite is true of themselves. So congrats, you just outed yourself as not being a good enough guy to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:22 AM
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Okay - but how do folks adjust their “picker” - what signs do you suggest they look for other than a pattern of victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:20 AM
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That’s like telling a person who didn’t win the lottery that it’s their fault they didn’t win, because they should have just picked better numbers. There is very little to NO indication in advance that somebody can base these determinations off of. One of the few indications that may be present ahead of a relationship, is a pattern of victim blaming or otherwise insinuating that it’s the victims fault that they became victimized. So if you’re so insistent that women should go off the few signs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:07 AM
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Having the sexual attraction is NOT objectifying women. Staring at women while having sexual thoughts about her IS objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:36 AM
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You know what’s really an easy way kill the conversation. Objectifying her straight off the bat. Like it’s really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:18 AM
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And that’s the topic you come up with, out of literally anything else? the reason men need to stop doing this, is it’s talking about the object of the person, and not discussing the person themselves. It’s inherently objectifying. Like, y’all are making this too hard on yourself - compliment part of her outfit, talk about the weather, ask what her favorite _______
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:08 AM
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No - men need to stop saying “pick better men” like it’s that fucking simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:05 AM
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He does - all of them and then lots of icing on the cake
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:02 AM
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There’s lots of people trying to get black and white ground rules out there that can be followed, even by somebody who has difficulties with social cues: wear clothing that isn’t wrinkled nor stained and has not been worn since the last time it was washed. shower with soap before going out where you will meet women. do not make any comments about her body - literally talk about anything else. do not interrupt somebody actively engaged in something - a conversation, listening to something on head…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:00 PM
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I’m sure that they are very helpful for identifying abuse when you are already relationship with somebody. The problem is that a lot of abusers also watch those videos, and learn how to hide those identifiers temporarily until they are able to establish other means of manipulation to control their victim. The entire personality and the way they act at the beginnings of a relationship is completely different from the way when the actual abuse is occurring. I challenge you to find a video that sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:37 PM
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Please - share these videos. Provide links.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:30 PM
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Teehee - it was a study from a right wing think tank https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:24 PM
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Cool - a study by the institute of family studies, did you look up that organization yet? You probably should before citing their “research” https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:23 PM
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I swear, so many men on this sub act like men hold up big signs saying “I become abusive after I get you to move in with me.” That’s not how abusers operate. Abusers are some of the most loving caring and nice people at the beginning, that’s how they operate. Are we supposed to give “nice guys” a chance or what? Is it our responsibility to date guys who are assholes to start off with, because the abusers always act so nice and lovely?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:26 AM
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That argument is nothing but a thin veil to hide the hippocracy of a man wanting an open relationship/cheating, while still expecting his partner to stay monogamous. Women - if a man says something like this to you RUN. He’s already trying to justify Infidelity in his mind, and you need to RUN
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:15 AM
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Yes, In about 55% of heterosexual marriages, the husband makes more money than the wife, leaving 45% of marriages where they don’t. Not to mention that within that 55%, there is a subsection of women for whom a man that makes more than her was not a deal breaker for them, they just happened to end up a guy who makes more than them. There are tons of women out there, possibly even a majority of women for whom having an equal or lower salary is not a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:23 AM
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Men for millennia have been able to have a family and a career simultaneously. Why is it any different for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:58 PM
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No - I’m literally not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:26 PM
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It usually has more to do with the woman wanting somebody who is physically larger than her. With so manny constant societal pressures to be skinny, a lot of women get very insecure with men that are smaller than them. For taller guys who are proportionate, it is less likely that his waistline is going to be smaller than hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:32 PM
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It will be an issue for a small minority of women, but a woman holding such views is more often than not indicative of other character flaws that a guy wouldn’t want to tolerate anyway in a committed relationship. There are heaps of much more important trades in selecting a partner than sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:22 PM
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There are lots of women happy to be with somebody who makes less than them. I’m fact, many women specifically DO NOT want to date men who make significantly more than them because of the liklihood of messed up power dynamics developing in the relationship. Generally speaking, most folks tend to settle down with folks who are at similar levels to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:12 PM
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I don’t date the far left ever, and I tend to get along better with moderate republicans and libertarians than I do with progressive liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:57 PM
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Well, seeing as at least in the US, in a lot of places, the median income is well below what is required in order afford the basic survival level cost of living (look at United Way’s ALICE threshold for that area) for two adults, let alone adding children into the mix, it’s appropriate to assume that in a majority household, both parents are expected to work. Sure, one of the adult could work in the service industry or retail, but those tend to schedule people for odd hours that aren’t conducive…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:27 PM
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Only because I’m in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:30 AM
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“Dumpster dive” “scraps” “women act shitty and entitled” “the fat chick with the truly awful personality” that’s an awful lot of shitting on women to be just a simple accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:29 AM
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What are you doing NOW though? Not what you plan to do, what about right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:26 AM
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It’s safe when you are taking him to places where you are friends with the staff and are taking your own taxis/Ubers and the like. This was at a point when I was newly single and trying to get my feet wet going out. One of the guys I did it with was gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:25 AM
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It certainly shits on women quite a bit for a post that supposedly not women hating….
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:47 AM
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Oh sweetie, the misogyny in this post is very blatant and not subtle at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:45 AM
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It depends on what you do for work/school/volunteering. What do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:35 AM
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I would say that the women commenting so far in this thread are. Listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:14 PM
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I can see how you would feel that way - attitudes like what your displaying are a major turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:06 PM
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At least their is solace in the knowledge that some who have not yet been dragged in by the rhetoric also come here - even if we can’t change their minds of those that reject our truths, at least we can keep them from changing the minds of others
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:05 PM
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Actually - had that scenario happen, the short guy won out, he was 5’2
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:19 PM
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Lol - my biggest red flag is when a guy tries to explain to me “how I actually feel”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:18 PM
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My standards, based on actual men I have been in or seriously considered getting into relationships with: Height - 5ft and up Weight - underweight-overweight and slightly obese okay depending on weight distribution Income - has to earn enough to support himself living with roommates Career - anything that doesn’t involve deceiving or otherwise unethically using others. Cannot earn his money doing something illegal. Interests - has to have at least a few interests that overlap with mine (most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:19 PM
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So the FBI is batshit huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:42 PM
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Joining a class to meet women is creepy, but joining a class to help build your social circle of friends is largely why a lot of these sorts of classes exist - men on this club are constantly complaining about how you meet women through social circles and how they don’t have any social circles, but make no efforts to build new ones. That’s what’s frustrating. Like if you don’t have social circles in most areas, that’s 100% on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:39 PM
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Oh yeah - he’s also really fascinated with extinct creatures, so I found a place for us to go fossil hunting, we went and found a bunch of cool fossils, and then I cleaned up all the fossils, got official plaques with species names made up, and put together a museum style display case to mount everything in and have it to him as a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:59 PM
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So my boyfriend works in the home design/furnishings space. Built his own kitchen, completely redid his house, etc. except, he doesn’t know anything about working with textiles. His work is gorgeous and something really special, very modern, but it feels a little sterile and cold by itself. He’s said to me on many occasions about how he wants his house to feel more warm and inviting like mine is. Well, I’ve become quite the seamstress myself, so I started making textile items for him: textured s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:53 PM
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexual-coercion#examples https://www.choosingtherapy.com/sexual-coercion/ https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-sexual-coercion https://info.umkc.edu/rise/sexual-coercion/ https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/identifying-abuse/what-is-sexual-coercion https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/protecting-children-sexual-abuse/202103/what-everyone-needs-understand-about-sexual-coercion?amp https://strongheartshelpline.org/abuse/6-common-tactics-of-sexual-coe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:14 PM
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There are plenty of ways to approach women that are never construed as annoying or innapropriate by rational individuals. How hard is it to say “hey, I like your shoes” - it’s really not that difficult. Just don’t immediately compliment a woman on her body, or mention how you are physically attracted to her, that’s literally all you have to do, it’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:02 PM
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Well, there are a wealth of experts in the field who would be more than happy to discuss these statistics and motivations with you. A quick google search will show you a multitude of organizations in the advocacy specs who can speak with regards to these facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:20 PM
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Because the rape isn’t about sexual gratification, it’s about inflicting control, violence, and suffering upon another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:21 PM
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Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over this. Guy puts in his profile “here in ____ city, not looking for anything except somebody to show me some local spots I wouldn’t be able to find otherwise.” And I say “sure, sounds like fun, I know a great place that does boozy milkshakes and has XYZ theming, after that I know of an underground comedy show we can go to in the neighborhood after that before parting ways” He says “sounds like a good time! Let’s do it” And then we meet up, go get bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:04 PM
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Okay - so according to you the FBI which is predominantly heterosexual men, demonizes heterosexual men. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:00 PM
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If you want to disagree with the established definition of what sexual coercion entails, you are free to take that up with the multitude of organizations and institutions that work in the sexual violence prevention space. However, under current laws in most of the developed world, what you described as sexual coercion is actually attempted rape/ attempted sexual assault and lands people in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:48 PM
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That’s what every organization focused on sexual assault says, and they cite the statistics that back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:40 PM
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In my area, yes. It’s usually, people who are very new to the area, visitors to the area , and foreign exchange students. It’s a shortcut to figure out local hidden gems /places off the beaten track
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:37 PM
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How is it unfair if he first states that he has no interest in anything further and just wants an excuse for a night out on the town, and I say, “sure! I’m down,” like why are you getting your panties in a bunch over two adults mutually agreeing to do something together?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:34 PM
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Of course! My legacy gets passed down through raising a child, not by birthing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:04 PM
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Lol - the funny thing is, dance is where my physical attributes that men find so appealing (except the breasts) comes from. Like sweetie, if you’re into my body, you’ve got to be into my dance, you don’t get one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:14 AM
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If you struggle to look at a girls outfit and simply pick out something to compliment, and that’s really too difficult for you to do. You can ask her “how about that weather today?” Like - it’s really not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:11 AM
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That’s attempted rape sweetie. Here’s a guide on how to spot sexual coercion: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/sexual-boundaries-how-to-spot-sexual-coercion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:07 AM
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What’s your definition of coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:11 AM
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Rules first depend on whether or not it’s a public or private school. Private schools, you need authorization of some sort. Public universities, it’s a little bit different, but it depends on if you are disrupting people. If you’re doing something disruptive, then you can get kicked off campus. The moment he stopped a girl to talk to her who didn’t actually want to talk to him, for the purposes of asking her how hot she thought a dude was, and targeting multiple women and just women for that pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:28 AM
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Your experiences, actions, desires, and motivations are not the same as everybody else’s. Just because either you do not posses the qualities needed to make a such a relationship work, or you refuse to date women who are capable of those qualities, doesn’t mean that everybody else does. Better start adding “for me personally” to the end of those statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:56 PM
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There are people who are fully capable of not engaging with sexual activities with other people when they are not with their significant other for long stretches of time. I know because I am one of those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:49 PM
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Nevermind, I found it. He was at a university he doesn’t even go to, and was banished from the campus. He admitted in the video where he talks about what happened that he doesn’t take classes there. Did the university approve him to be on campus recording the video? He’s essentially trespassing and recording students there without their consent. Yeah - it’s very reasonable for a woman on her university campus be recorded as a guy, who doesn’t go to her university who is probably not even authori…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:46 PM
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Link please?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:34 PM
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If you’re able to overcome that, then what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:32 PM
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It can work and does work with a lot of people. However, I can tell it definitely won’t work for you. Too much jealousy and insecurity. You need to be able to trust your partner, but it’s clear like you’re not willing to build the amount of trust needed for it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:55 PM
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I get upset by being catcalled by any man. His socioeconomic status has no bearing or influence on my reaction to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:10 PM
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That’s not what I was after at the time. It’s just folks I matched with who had something along those lines in their profile, and I said “that sounds like fun, and a good way to help ease myself back into dating.” I don’t understand why folks are getting their panties in a bunch about this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:07 PM
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I’ve already clearly stated that I do not want to do something, and he keeps trying to pressure or convince me to change my mind immediately after.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:04 PM
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You will never get banned or arrested simply by cold approaching in a tasteful manner. The trouble comes with approaching her by complimenting her body rather than something that has to do with who she is as a person and/or ignoring signs and statements that she is not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:01 PM
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In certain settings, such as a bar known as a singles bar, it can work, but it has to be done in the right way. There are sooo many men who cold approach by commenting on a woman’s body, her object, and that is doomed for failure. You need to approach her as a person, ask what she’s drinking, compliment part of her outfit, ask her thoughts on the weather, literally anything that has to do with her taste, her likes/dislikes, her feelings about things, what she thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:52 PM
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Yeah - not gonna do that for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:22 PM
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https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/32/4/853/2968357?login=false
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:56 PM
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Lol, I dance and I actually compete at an international level, and have performed at all the most renowned venues in my area. I remember one guy referring to it as “your little dance thing” - well he did comedy, had been doing it for years, only open mics where he would bomb constantly, never even getting booked for amateur local showcases, when I turned around and asked him “how’s your little comedy thing going?” He lost it and insisted that it was a very serious endeavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:21 PM
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First off, where did I say that I feel I am equally as physically strong as men? I’m fully aware that a majority of men my age are physically stronger than me, which is part of why I’m so careful. And secondly, a lot of the fear comes from the fact that a vast majority of sexual assaults are perpetrated by heterosexual men. Even sexual assault of heterosexual men is largely perpetrated by heterosexual men. So yeah, gotta look out for myself when meeting strangers, especially when those strangers…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:14 PM
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Yesss - we all let eachother know what we are doing and the like just in case anything happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:03 PM
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It’s not using when they straight up put in their online dating profile that they are looking for just that, and then you take them up on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:01 PM
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Uncomfortable is an understatement for a lot of these, violated is a better term. There’s only so much you can do to get. Most of the men who do these things hide themselves very well, and it takes time for them to come out. Basically, what you have to do is meet people on your own home turf. Like a restaurant where all the staff knows you, getting there early before he does, letting the staff know the situation, posting a pic on social media to indicate where you are meeting up with the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:46 PM
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No - But there are times, especially right after getting out of a relationship, where I would go out on “dates” with foreign exchange students/visitors (we get a lot of tourists in the area) to show them a night on the town, show the side of the city only locals know, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:16 PM
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Of dates that aren’t mutually just a date with no intention of anything further, where I’m dating somebody who intends on staying in the area - at least 60% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:50 PM
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Here are a few that I’ve experienced first hand: sexual assault, I’ve had many times where I’ve made it clear on a first date what level of bodily contact I am comfortable with at that point in time, only to be ignored and him initiating swxualized contact without my consent. sexual coercion, after setting up clear boundaries, men trying to coerce me into doing more having men lash out upon even the gentlest and kindest rejection to the level of harassment, and it’s quite vulgar, disturbing, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:04 PM
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That’s a different statistic from what I’m citing. That’s per individual egg, I’m citing the statistic of likelihood over the course of 15 eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:37 AM
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We’re busy fighting the causes behind women’s poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:23 AM
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Easy - the moment they try to explain to me what my “actual feelings” are. Dead giveaway right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:31 PM
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Yup! Thank god I’m off the dating market now, that was so rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:41 PM
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For both of us. Many men will hold the fact that they paid for their own dinner and “didn’t get anything in return” over your head if you decide to split the check and end up not being interested in pursuing anything with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:05 PM
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I always pay for the first date unless I really really like the guy and I know for sure I’m going to want to see him again. too many men out there will hold it over you if they pay, like they expect something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:52 PM
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Would you be willing to adopt if it turned out you were infertile - if not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:48 PM
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If you are willing to raise the child of a widow, this question is not directed towards you. This is a question for men that would never consider raising a child that wasn’t biologically theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:30 PM
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Dude, I was literally giving one example of a scenario where somebody who entered a marriage fully intent on staying with the person for life would have good reason for divorce A very real example that has happened to many people. It’s just one example scenario out of many possible scenarios that are just as justified. If you have difficulty wrapping your head around abuse as a reason for divorce being a good thing, feel free to insert your own idea of an action from your partner that you would …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:35 PM
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Okay - because you clearly Dont understand metaphors - I was stating that just because one thing is technically better than another thing, doesn’t mean that it’s good, or not worth complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:28 PM
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Somebody must have skipped the lesson on what metaphors were back in grande school. A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isn’t literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison. Here are the basics: A metaphor states that one thing is another thing It equates those two things not because they actually are the same, but for the sake of comparison or symbolism If you take a metaphor literally, it will probably sound very strange (are there …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:03 PM
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I do take marriage seriously, I just recognize that divorce is a better outcome than people staying in an abusive and possibly even dangerous situation just to keep a marriage going. Your comment is the exact kind of stigmatization I’m talking about. No, you shouldn’t get married if you intend to eventually divorce, and a marriage is a serious commitment. If you don’t intend on staying with that person for life, you shouldn’t get married to begin with. However, sometimes despite best efforts, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:00 PM
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Just because a turd sandwich is technically better than a diarrhea sandwich, that doesn’t make it a good sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:32 PM
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I think we just need to stop stigmatizing divorce - divorce isn’t an inherently bad thing in and of itself, it’s an unhappy relationship coming to an end. What makes things bad is when partners get vengeful, and try to punish their partner, especially if children are involved. Not all divorces go scorched earth, many are mutually agreed upon and the division of property/parenting doesn’t go through much of a fight. I think it’s important to touch on the pressures you see to get married early tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:55 PM
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You are welcome to have whatever standards you want, nobody is forcing you to get into a relationship with somebody you don’t want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:38 PM
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Well that’s not the intent of my post. I have straight up told you that. So you should either re-route the way that you are going to answer the question, or just don’t comment at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:36 PM
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If you are willing to adopt in a case of infertility, then this question is not directed towards you. This is for men who would NEVER consider adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:26 PM
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That’s literally not my question - I’ve heard of mansplaining, but trying to mansplain my own thoughts to me AND get them wrong, now that’s a mother level of misogyny right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:56 AM
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No - people who refuse to adopt under any circumstances, even sterility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:54 AM
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That’s not the reason a woman gets upset about a child’s getting switched at birth, a woman gets upset about that because the baby has already spent 9 months in her womb, she would feel the same way of all women were randomly impregnated by the biological child of two strangers. It’s why surrogates get upset handing over the baby to the biological parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:49 AM
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I specifically never allow a guy to pay me on a first date, because of men portraying attitudes like you. Too many men are insistent on getting something immediate in return if they pay for a date, and if don’t want to deal with the way he’s gonna act and treat me if I decide I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:23 AM
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Plenty of fat women will date and even marry fat men. I’ve seen plenty of example of this from all generations. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:14 AM
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Animals, especially primates are known to adopt, so no, it’s not strictly an animal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:12 AM
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The reasons most people give for having kids like wanting to pass down my story, my inheritance, etc, can all be done in cases of adoptive children. This is specifically a question for those who want kids, but who wouldn’t consider adoption even if they were sterile. What is the reason you want kids that doesn’t apply to adopting a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:11 AM
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If you’re willing to adopt, this question isn’t directed to yoy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:03 AM
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There’s plenty of reasons to not have your own. Infertility, high risk of certain illnesses, not wanting to go through pregnancy, being a same-sex partnership where both parents can’t biologically be the parent, wanting to raise a kid but not to put the additional environmental impact on the planet. There are lots of people out there who adopt children and raise them as their own all the time for lots of very good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:00 AM
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I’m arguing that raising a child that’s not yours is still fulfilling, and is a better option for those who want to raise kids than not having any kids at all. Like if you’re a man that would be open to adoption if you found out you were sterile, this question isn’t directed towards you. It’s specifically a question for those who would never consider adoption under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:54 AM
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Yeah - I don’t feel that way? And how is a couple mutually deciding to adopt manipulating or guilting somebody into being a slave?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:48 AM
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Wanting your DNA to exist in your child is synonymous with only wanting to raise a child that is biologically close to you. Why do you want them to carry your DNA?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:47 AM
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Those are people have decided to have biological children of their own, many of whom feel that is important. That doesn’t answer the why… Like, if that were me, I would be upset because that was the child I carried in my own womb, and I would feel the same way if all women only got pregnant through IVF of some random woman and man’s embryo that wasn’t there own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:46 AM
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But what about adoption?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:24 PM
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But the genes are just a part of the object of the self, the values and beliefs, and theethics, those are really a part of the person and who they are. You pass on those aspects of your personhood to any child you raise, whether they are biologically yours or not. Why is the legacy of the object so important that you wouldn’t even consider raising a child unless you got to pass down the object?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:20 PM
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If the pregnancy was intentional, either planned or had any part in convincing the woman to keep the child, I would consider him a deadbeat dad. I do not feel the same way for accidental pregnancy where the man is open to the idea of the partner terminating or putting up for adoption, I feel that way about folks where the woman carried the pregnancy to term and kept the based on the consensual understanding that he would be supporting the child, such as him convincing her to keep the child again…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:15 PM
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The 2020 election in the US made it very clear that many women out there have great respect for a man with a small appendage. Over 34 million women voted for the man with the tiny member.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:48 PM
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Why is it important to you that your child shares your genetic legacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:30 PM
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Curious, if the woman was a widow rather that a divorce, would that make a difference to you? If so, how come? Also, the desire for the kid to be biologically yours is synonymous with wanting to share your lineage, so why do you want to share your lineage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:24 PM
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Your math is bad. For starters, 1/15 as a fraction is 6.66%. Secondly, the statistics, It’s 80% of women who freeze 15 eggs before 35 will have at least one li birth, that has nothing to do with likelihood per egg, it’s a statistic of what percentage will achieve success within the 15 eggs they use. Multiple eggs can be vital, and multiple pregnancies can be achieved. Many women don’t even end up using all the eggs they’ve frozen, so applying a calculation of only one egg being viable and then c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:21 PM
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Where the hell are you getting 0.0533% from an 80% statistic?! If you freeze one round of eggs before the age of 35, there is an 80% chance of having at least one love birth from those eggs later on. Two two rounds, it goes up to 90% very similar likelihood than just trying to conceive without medical intervention. You can do IVF well after menopause, with women as old as 74 giving birth. Also, adoption doesn’t have an upper age limit. Sure, some agencies have a limit, but overall, if you’re an …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:56 PM
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Ironically. Early 40s is when Men’s fertility starts to decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:01 PM
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Oh yes - the scary biological clock - a poor woman who hits 30, only has 15 years to get pregnant without having to rely on widely available medicine to help her get pregnant for many years after that point. Oh - the absolute horror and rush! She has a whole 30 years before she’s old enough that her kids won’t yet be legal adults by the time she hits life expectancy age. If only she had settled down by 28 instead of waiting until her 30s, she would have had 2 more years of fertility to work with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:51 PM
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Neither is age - chance of at least one live birth if you freeze 15 eggs before 35 is 80%. The chances are even higher with more eggs frozen. In the US, of women of birthing age who have no prior births, about 19% are unable to get pregnant after one year of trying. Also, what man wants to be raising a child into his 60s or 70s? not very many. So fertility isn’t even an issue after a certain point, because it becomes an issue for both the man and the woman of how far in age they are willing to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:29 PM
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Here’s a few: - Men’s lack of dating success - Make loneliness - Boys falling behind in school - mens suicide rate - Mens lack of social engagement None of these are caused by women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:49 PM
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Welp - I’m getting my some eggs frozen, so the biological clock doesn’t apply - try again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:44 PM
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Lol - I’m 33 years old, and folks still assume I’m in my mid twenties. I don’t really do a lot of makeup, although I do have a basic skincare routine. Before meeting my partner, it actually caused a lot of issues trying to meet folks, as men my age would assume a large age-gap, and less mature men in their mid twenties who I wouldn’t be interested in as they largely lack the emotional maturity for a stable relationship ship would hit on me thinking I was there age. So yeah, there, I just disprov…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:56 PM
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What if they want to sleep with somebody, but they don’t because they’ve been told time and time again that they will be seen as a lesser person that is not worthy of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:59 PM
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Yeah - the notion that a person chooses their sexuality is a myth. Any man that “turned to men because women’s standards are too high” were attracted to men to begin with. Likely they were raised to have an intolerance towards homosexuality so they never considered that they might not be straight or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:44 AM
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I wouldn’t be bothered by it at all! I’d actually ask about the experience as I would be genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:40 AM
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The history of using snail mucin for dermatological purposes goes all the way back as far as 400BC, and there are peer reviewed studies to back it up it’s usage. That’s more that can be said for a lot of work out supplements many men take that are no more than a placebo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:18 AM
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Falsification of paternity tests is far more common than a woman who has never cheated or engaged in any sort of infidelity lying about the paternity of her child. There has been one case of that happening in recorded history, and her name was Mary according to many Christians. If a man cannot trust a woman who is fiercely loyal to him and is making the sacrifices and risks needed to carry his child, then how is she supposed to just blindly trust that the husband is demanding a paternity test in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:08 AM
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As for the narcissistic situation, we are talking about a man who knows he is the father convincing the woman that he is not the partner so that when he stays with her he can hold it over her head “I’m the good guy, nobody would take you in, nobody wants to raise somebody else’s kid, but I’m a good man, and I did so you should consider yourself grateful I’m willing to make this sacrifice. I know you don’t remember cheating on me, you were very drunk” Narcicistic abusers do some terrible things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:00 AM
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The point of the verified test is to be make sure there’s no falsifying. The point of the multiple test would be to be able to avoid the uncertainty that there wasn’t some type of lab error, such as a sample mix up, cross contamination, etc. And who said anything about wriggling out of child support? We are talking about narcicist-type men who are trying to create some sort of false narrative in order to control their partner. Or a guy who is trying to gaslight the partner into having an abortio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:55 PM
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Men can cheat on unsupervised at home tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:05 PM
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Yes - that’s the primary way most folks who do “at ease”paternity testing do it, as it’s much cheaper than those available through a doctors office. They get a test sent to the home, collect a sample, and then mail it back to the lab.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:52 PM
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What’s wrong with taking multiple tests and ensuring their accuracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:30 PM
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Okay - well, the women who get genuinely upset and question the relationship are 100% positive who the father is. But what if the test is wrong? Most people will use at home tests that are prone to error, cross contamination, lab error. What happens within the relationship then? Also, with at-home tests, it’s very easy for a man to put another man’s DNA into the test in order for the test to come up negative. How is the woman supposed to be sure that the man is not submitting a fraudulent sample…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:14 PM
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If men want the kind of 100% certainty as to whether or the child is biologically their own - then they should go for adoption, and they will be 100% sure that the kid is not theirs. If they on the other hand want a woman to make the sacrifices and that’s the risk of death involved in carrying his biological child through pregnancy, then he should be willing to make some sacrifices himself, including the ability to require a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:41 PM
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Yeah - that still doesn’t negate the 9.5 months of pregnancy, all the doctors visits, and literally risking your life. That’s what makes it different from a simple accusation of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:26 PM
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Exactly! Getting pregnant is making yourself extremely vulnerable, and you are relying on your trust in your partner to support you through the process where you are putting your life at risk to carry his child. Trust is something that should be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:49 AM
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Yeah - I would say that we are just not having kids until you drop the requirement. A woman putting herself through pregnancy is a lot, and even trying to conceive is a lot emotionally. Also, adoption is always an option where neither of us are the biological parents and I as the mother don’t have to go through pregnancy. Edit as I accidentally hit reply: if I’m going to be putting my body and my emotions through the process of conceiving and carrying a child to term, risking my life in the proc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:41 AM
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Depends on the man and his individual tastes. Some men find fat women very sexually attractive. I remember one guy, when I lost a bunch of weight not too long ago, he actually found me less attractive post weight loss, while most men found me more attractive. It really depends on the guy, however, the percentage of men who find fatness attractive is considerably less than those who find skinniness attractive. There are also some cultural variables as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:36 AM
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It reminds me of those adults who were unpopular in high school and never moved past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:40 AM
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Desirable men don’t discriminate on the basis of age. When we say “desirable men” we mean men who have the emotional maturity needed to foster a healthy relationship. We don’t mean men of a certain height and physique and income level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:36 AM
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How exactly does one “maximize Medicare benefits” - do you like, make sure to get really really sick, but make sure your times of illness last no more than 100 days, and make sure that each illness is more than 90 days apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:32 AM
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What percentage of those were planned pregnancies? How many of these cases were women who were going through all the trials and tribulations of trying to conceive with a partner. How many of these cases were the women showing absolutely no signs or opportunity for infidelity? If a woman who cheated wants to fight a paternity test, of course that woman is in the wrong. But when it’s a fiercely loyal partner who has combined finances with you, that you’ve built a home with, who is literally puttin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:56 PM
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You’re talking about something that is the case with only 1-3% of all births, and in a majority of those there is a legitimate questioning or verification of infidelity ahead of the test. The percentage of men this happens to where there is no indication of possible infidelity is exceptionally low and uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:49 PM
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That’s 30% of people who have self-selected to get paternity tests, not a sampling of the whole. There are over 3.5 million births per year in the US, but there are almost 300,000 paternity tests performed annually. So among the under 10% of couples who self select to do a paternity test, only 30% of those turn out to not be the father. So yes, it does happen to a considerable amount of folks, but not as widespread as you suggest. The group of people who self-select are disproportionately couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:44 PM
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It’s far more than an accusation of cheating, you’re not just accusing them of lying to you, but to every single person in their lives. Especially in the case of a planned pregnancy when you’re tracking ovulation cycles, supplementing your nutrition to promote fertility, and in some cases going through a great amount of emotional strife trying to conceive. This is a project your working with your partner to achieve. By requesting a paternity test, you are accusing them of a much more vile fraud …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:33 PM
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I think folks are wrongfully equivocating every type of pregnancy situation in this scenario. It’s one thing for a pop up surprise pregnancy. It’s another when the couple is working hard together to try to conceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:27 PM
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That’s a little hypocritical from somebody trying to justify asking for a paternity test by saying “what about all the women that do cheat”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:24 PM
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Your clothes and hygiene are not who you are, but whether or not you decide to make those changes is who you are, and your inability separate your appearance from your identity is a big part of who you are. Any woman would be justified in seeing such an individual in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:22 PM
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Complimenting a woman’s body or facial beauty is complimenting the object part of the individual. Complimenting her outfit is complimenting her taste, which is a part of her personhood. It’s a good rule of thumb for guys who don’t understand the nuance of objectification to begin engagement with something dealing with her personality instead of her body (object). Compliment their outfit or how they choose to style their hair, ask them how they are doing, ask them if they are enjoying the weather…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:53 PM
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I feel like more men on this sub need to see this - like the few times he actually approaches the women as people “how are you doing” “I like your outfit” “can I help you find something” they manically actually engage with him a bit and don’t immediately shit him down. They turn him down, but it’s more polite, and after some engagement. It’s when he approaches them as bodies or o Jeff’s he is attracted to “you caught my eye” type crap where the women get creeped out and immediately try to shut d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:16 PM
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Do you wanna know something that men do often? They leave their partners with no good cause such as abuse of infidelity, leaving their and biological children behind, leaving them in a financially unstable situation, long breadths of mental moms games using children as pawns, drawn out custody battles. This could all be avoided if the man were to sign a legally binding contract before attempting pregnancy that removes him from all visitation and custody rights, requires him to give up the house …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:54 PM
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Me getting pregnant is not going to be some simple task. It’s going to involve doctors visits, tests, tracking ovulation and menstrual cycles, and constantly trying and planning. All things my partner is going to be involved in, our families and friends are going to be knowledgeable of, etc. asking for a paternity test goes far beyond an accusation of cheating, it’s an accusation of manipulating every single person in my life, for faking ovulation tests, spending lots of money for doctors visits…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:16 PM
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Yes, but the manner you choose to present yourself and interact with the world is a part of who you are. if you’re not bathing frequently enough to the point that you smell bad, and you subject others to an unpleasant odor, that says something about your character (exception for certain disabilities which affect the ability to groom) the way you dress for an occasion is a signal of respect, it says that you feel it is worth putting forth some effort, which is also a reflection of character. oute…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:57 AM
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You missed making sure your clothes aren’t wrinkled. Also proper sizing of clothes is something that gets really overlooked. A lot of dudes will wear an I’ll fitting suit, and complain that they aren’t getting the perks that come with wearing a suit, like dude, the thing needs to fit right, take it to a tailor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:53 AM
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Individuals who work in blue collar fields who make an effort in rising up the career ladder end up in managerial/oversight positions where they are no longer performing the manual labor, but instead leading a team of people performing that labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:50 AM
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I’m a college educated woman with a successful career that reflects having a college education. I met the love of my life, and he does not have a college education. He works in the trades, and had some ost-secondary education relating to that. What most women do want though is a man who has developed a skill set that can earn a decent income. Especially in a society where it’s not enough to work more that full time in order to afford to live, we want men who will fare well in the job market alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:47 AM
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Looks matter for hookups, if you’re into that thing. Like, if you’re having sex for fun without wanting to build a relationship, looks are a major factor, that and ability to perform. Looks are far less important when seeking an actual relationship, sure, a guy needs to be attractive enough that the woman isn’t sexually repulsed, but not a whole lot beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:43 AM
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He does have that luxury, my partner and I would have been having the conversation deciding to have children, we would have been tracking my ovulation together, and lovemaking every day, and making a real effort together to conceive. He would have been there every pregnancy test, been my shoulder to lean on and everything. We would have been making special meals together to promote fertility, everything. That’s where his “certainty” derived from if not from the trust of the relationship. By aski…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:21 AM
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If I’m at a point in a relationship where I would actually be keeping a pregnancy, this is a point where I have started building a full life with my partner. We have a home, we share finances, we are living together and giving eachother our worlds. If I’m at a point where I’m keeping the pregnancy with someone, it would be extremely insulting for them to ask for a paternity test, and I would break up with them right then and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:03 AM
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The article refers to a study which it links, and that study is of prairie voles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:48 PM
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Right? I had no idea that short men were systemically barred from getting mortgages so they could build generational wealth for decades after we had supposedly gotten rid of Timmy Titmouse laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:37 PM
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Look at your environment and ask yourself “is it common for individuals to come to the setting to try and meet people?” Bar, yeah, bus stop, no. Look at her environment and ask yourself “would she have somebody or some other mechanism to help her out of the situation if I were to resort to sexual harassment, or is she going to be left to her own devices.” If it’s the latter, stay away. Girl at a laundromat alone, stay away, girls with friends at a concert, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:32 PM
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You’re confusing physical attractiveness versus grooming upkeep attractiveness. So many men I see complaining of their physical appearance keeping them away from women, aren’t doing anything to address the parts of their appearance they have so EPL eye controlled of, are hairlines/beards well groomed? Is the hair cleaned and styled. Are the clothes properly fitted, ironed? How’s the posture you’re holding yourself with? You’re right that we do compare very much about appearance, but it’s the app…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:19 PM
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The guy is failing because he’s objectifying her. He’s not thinking about her as a person and he’s getting turned down as a result. Men understand that women feel threatens being approached by men they don’t know when a lone at night, yet instead of saying “maybe I should’t, he felt that her potentially not feeling threatened Is not as important as him shooting his shot. But beyond that, he’s only complimenting the body, the object part of her. Guys need to learn to approach women as people, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:59 PM
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Well - that’s in fiction - in the real world that’s sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:47 PM
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I think it’s the other way around, that individuals who are open to cheating are more likely to have more sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:08 AM
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It’s from studies of prairie voles 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:05 AM
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Anybody who sites “pair bonding” as a reason, doesn’t understand the difference between prairie voles and actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:03 AM
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They fight it because the research is studying the behavior of prairie voles, and not actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:02 AM
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Do any of those studies involve actual humans, or are they all just on prairie voles?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:01 AM
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As for politics, it really depends on the specific views. Being anti- gay marriage is one that would cause a lot more issues than being pro freedom of speech would. Somebody being anti-gay marriage is a red flag, as it usually indicates that they also believe in regimented gender roles, which can cause toxicity in a relationship of a woman doesn’t adhere to those roles. But something like gun rights or something that doesn’t tie in as closely to relationship dynamics is less likely to be an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:56 AM
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The study citied by folks referring to multiple sexual partners resulting in diminished pair bonding, is a study on prairie voles and not people or even primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:47 AM
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A lot of men on this sub, when they are informed that the way that they are approaching women is objectifying by women, they switch to “it’s not objectifying because I don’t think it is, therefore it isn’t.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:30 AM
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That’s not my experience at all with autistic men whatsoever. I actually have several autistic friends in my community who I have great social relationships with. I never found any of them creepy or weird or stalkers, or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:31 PM
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I think the cheapest you can go for a typical looking engagement ring (has a stone that pops out from a setting instead of being wrapped around the metal) in a case where the recipient is expected to wear it on a daily basis without expectation of a replacement, there is definitely a bottom mark, and that’s around the $300 range. That’s the base cost of a 10k gold ring with a lab-created white sapphire. Sure there are technically ones a bit cheaper, but $300 is where you actually get a design ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:32 PM
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Nope - not in the slightest, although once it is revealed that somebody is creepy/weird/stalkerish, they do become unattractive at that point. I remember one time I was flirting with a guy across the bar, tall, handsome, muscular, wearing a perfectly fitting suit. Well, he ended up coming over to me later, and he started talking about how successful he was and how he had to watch out for “gold diggers”, was very objectifying, clearly red-pilled, and yeah, overall really creepy behavior. I was in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:43 PM
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By complimenting how she looks, you are compliment the object part of her, not the person part of her - and not only that, but you’re starting off with complimenting the object part of her. It’s objectifying, and objectifying somebody is a terrible way to start up a conversation. Stop approaching her as an object, and approach her as a person. Ask what she thinks of the weather, compliment her outfit, or how she styled her hair/makeup, ask her if she knows any good restaurants nearby, literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:31 AM
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No, it’s a “don’t start off by immediately objectifying women” post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:47 AM
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It’s extremely objectifying because you’re complimenting her as an object, not her as a person. But if you compliment something about her outfit, instead of complimenting her body (read object) you are complimenting her taste, which is purely part of who she is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:46 AM
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Okay, not you’re just jumping to conclusions now. Behavioral health therapy isn’t just for the mentally ill. It’s for anybody that could benefit from it. You do t just go to the doctor when you are feeling really sick. You don’t just go to the dentist when you have a toothache. So why should only the mentally ill seek behavioral health services. You’re holding a big stigma against behavioral health services that are really just help in helping you cope in situations that you find difficult or st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:43 AM
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If that’s something you struggle with, then there are lots of behavioral therapists out there happy and willing to work with you to help you develop new ways of engaging in social activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 09:25 PM
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I’ve done it myself - I was at a bar where there were a lot of people dancing. There was a woman who kept trying to grind up against a man, and he kept asking her to stop. Textbook sexual harassment if not sexual assault depending on the contact made. When she went to the bathroom or something, I went up to him to see if he was alright and if he needed any help getting her to stop harassing her (I was with a mixed-gender group of friends and let him know he could come join us). Well - it turned …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:46 PM
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Having hobbies or interests that get you out of the house - make new friends through those hobbies/interests, boom, you have new groups of mutual friends to meet women through.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:35 PM
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That’s literally the exact CDC data that was cited in the article the OP posted and sited in their post. Go to the article, go to where it states the figures quoted from that article in the post, and this is the literal CDC source the article cites to back up their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:31 PM
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The article OP cites is specifically cherry picking data in a lot of instances. Full report here https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:06 AM
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That is a real twisting of the statistics - it only compares females being raped to men being made to penetrate, and it only touches on instances of last 12 months and not lifetime reports. It does not include sexual coercion, of which 2,410,000 women reported being victims of compared to 1,669,000 men. Also, in the statistics being sited rape does not include being forced to receive oral sex, while being made to penetrate does. Not saying it is t serious or anything, just that the article you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:03 AM
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Based on the statistics being quoted by OP, sexual coercion is a separate category. Based on the CDC statistics quoted, 2,410,000 women in the past 12 months were victims of sexual coercion compared to 1,669,000 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:52 AM
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Under the statistics quoted, threatening to spread rumors falls under sexual coercion and not being made to penetrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:46 AM
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Ummmm the article you site is really fishy, and misrepresents the CDC data. That statistic that shows a roughly equal amount of women raped vs men made to penetrate, actually click through to the source that they are citing for that one, that sample on refers to within the past 12 months. This is deliberately cherry picked data to make an argument - here is the full data set here: https://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 05:04 AM
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I would agree that a greater proportion of men who struggle to find sexual partners are more prone to physical illness than those who don’t struggle, but I would argue that it’s more of a comorbidity than a cause. For example obese men are going to struggle more to find sexual partners, but their prone-ness to physical illness is not due to not getting laid, but is more closely tied to the cause of their obesity. There’s a correlation there, but it’s not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:44 AM
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ID verification, where you have to provide actual screenshots of your ID. Your name can only be what is on your ID, which an option to put a “preferred name” that is different in a separate line from your real name. Have people be able to report when they are meeting up with somebody, as well as the location of the meet-up point. Make it part of the terms and conditions that by using the app, you are consenting to have your information and whatnot shared with police/law enforcement should the ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:28 AM
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THIS - the “I just wanted to say you look beautiful” as an intro like is a way to make a woman feel objectified, and is immediately off putting. Instead of complimenting her body (her object) compliment her taste, like the way she styled her hair, or her shoes/outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:09 AM
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Wow - umm, the bigger issue is whether or not a man is objectifying in the way he approaches, that is literally the determining factor that continues to be ignored. How hard is it to compliment a woman on her shoes, or the way she did her hair, or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:03 AM
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