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Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 12:49 AM
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Ah, good. You are having fun on your alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:47 AM
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With all due respect, aren't you in an LTR his royal TRP lordship She is. Having fun on your alt? "I make public displays of my masculine dominance because I'm insecure" try-hard faggot OccamsRazor...? Everyone needs a hobby. You're telling me he's not interested in plates if he could get them...? Sure could. I'd share if you asked me nicely. I think you should re-evaluate your level of self-awareness on this issue. self-awareness I think so too. Jobs Jobs Jobs. I saw an unclean dish in the sink…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:16 AM
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Glad to hear it. Good luck to you both.
/r/RedPillWives30/04/16 12:40 AM
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I advised her of the risks. The mechanism here is the same that leads to escalating testing, browbeating, and betafication of males within relationships. This is the predominant pattern among women. And, yes, AWALT.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/16 02:02 PM
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"How can I change my man to suit me?" You're risking a dangerous precedent here. This thinking, and the successful execution of it, can make relationships unstable or unpalatable over time. Trying to devise ways to manipulate your man is starting off on the wrong foot right out of the gate. Worst case: if you are successful, you'll likely continue to push the envelope without even knowing you're doing it. What follows is rarely fun for either party.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/16 03:32 AM
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Keep trollin'. You need the practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:55 PM
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Right, and it also includes plugged in men - the 'before' version of the men we're talking about. The other men do not represent sexual objectives. Isn't that a bit like getting viciously angry at people in the 60s for thinking smoking wasn't harmful? No. I suppose I don't consider this an instance of 'being lied to'. Can't see how you manage that one. It's not a "misunderstanding", it's propagated through culture by a variety of means, and academia with fallacious social science nonsense. Why w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:53 PM
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hurting people, if not physicaly then mentaly "they hurt feelings" you sound like a terrorist. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:46 PM
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Who should this anger be directed at, though? Established thought and its supporters, this includes "women" as a group. Why are particular women responsible for what some see as a collective 'lie' (if that's what you think it is) participated in by the whole of society? They're not, but they're (on the whole) untrustworthy and aberrantly conditioned. Women aren't 'lying' when they say they 'like nice men' Baby turtle. Who and what are they angry at, in precise terms? See above. It seems irration…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 06:12 PM
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Ok i'll stop you right there. Obviously female male sexual strategies are different. That hasn't been touched on at all. You need to re-read the comments in this thread. Negative. You're projecting your personal experience and the experience of other RP readers onto the entire male population. No, just underlining predominant social norms. Do you society much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:38 AM
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but: We have a fundamental disagreement on the fact that there is a male and female nature/brain/biology. By extension, a male and female sexual strategy. "Be nice, do what women want" is in essence what boys are told their entire lives and its crap advice that leads to failure. this vitriol ought to be sneered at for the ridiculous thing it is Careful. Those wrinkles on your nose will become permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:30 AM
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You're saying you think the 'anger phase' somehow qualifies as a form of 'righteous' anger. I've certainly gotten cross when lied to. Especially if you consider that some are lied to their entire lives. I see the vitriol as most apparent, as you seem to agree. Toughen up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:09 AM
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Your position can be sourced to your own marriage failure. You may think it's practical to advise others to not make the same choices you have, but you go to an extreme and advocate avoiding the "problem" altogether. The problem was not marriage, it was you. If you knew what to do then, you would be much more likely to still be married, and possibly produce two very happy people (if not more). Of course, hindsight is 20/20, so I'm sure you have it all figured out now, and you'll never again cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 02:09 AM
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Nobody likes a try-hard.
/r/RedPillWomen21/01/16 08:18 PM
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Autism confirmed.
/r/askMRP11/01/16 10:02 PM
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In all likelihood you are trolling, autistic, stupid, or any combination of the three.
/r/askMRP11/01/16 07:23 PM
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"committed"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 07:16 PM
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You mean gerbil, the male equivalent of the rationalization hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 07:05 PM
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Do you not understand what jokes are? Look at any of my history prior to that post, I have not one anger phase post comment in my entire reddit history, and I very much doubt that /u/Archwinger has made a single post in that spirit. This was an amusing subreddit concept so I made a bait thread/question, and members responded in kind. Stop being dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 07:02 PM
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is that the guy NEVER wants to pay, but will because he feels like he has to. Incorrect, stop whining.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 07:58 PM
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This is a whole lot of gumflapping to say "I pay when I want to". This should be true for every man, regardless of any expectations.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/15 07:51 PM
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And it's intentionally too limited, does not make proper consideration for how "feeling more strongly" is reason enough for women to decide they must be catered to. Again, look at most any recent feminist outrage about how women's feelings need to be catered to, norms shifted around, men need to help and act on their part, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:12 PM
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I realize the type of thorough diplomacy you're trying to advocate is an ideal of egalitarian arrangements, but I've found it fraught with possibility for conflict. "Communication" is usually code for "let the woman complain and insist". The issue of feelings as metric for who is more affected has the possibility to rear its head in any and every situation. It's unavoidable if you permit a woman (or feminists) to treat sensitivity as a prime consideration. I would prefer to simply know all the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:07 PM
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Isn't RP about improving yourself until you can score the best kind of women, unlike the women you use in your examples? Partially, and yes, most women are a terrible deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:02 PM
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If your partner is being irrational, point it out and reiterate your reasons. This is not advisable with most women. I take it you've never dated a woman and told her "you are being irrational, here are the reasons why". This typically does not go over well, and would make problems worse for almost any man dealing with a woman in this capacity. Otherwise, maybe this is the moment you realize you're dating someone you can't even reason with When women are being emotional, I do not have the strict…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:22 AM
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It's more than this, your definition and accompanying example are limited. The standard of "cares more" is a central tie breaking theme of egalitarian relationships. Both partners are "equal", and typically women find that the "fair" means of resolution is to listen to the person with the more intense emotional affect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:42 AM
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As for final decisions, it's usually a winning strategy to let the decision rest with the person who is the most affected by it. This is strictly deciding merely on feels, and in a heterosexual couple, which sex is most likely to feel more strongly about, well, everything? With such a standard, the woman is overwhelmingly favored at the outset, and makes potential conflicts more likely, not less. This unit of measurement is termed Feelohurtz, or Fhz for short.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:09 AM
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His repudiation is about male weakness, not about the C/FO model.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/01/15 02:02 AM
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Rollo's article is specifically addressing betas (even as specific as Christian betas), and not strong, capable leaders. He's addressing the type of recovery cases you'll see at the MMSL forum, which is a horror show of weak, faggotized men and attention whore women. The "gold standard" is a man who leads his family (whatever that consists of), pursues his goals, and is quick and decisive in addressing matters of disrespect. There's other personal structures that add to this (as I do with Positi…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 10:15 PM
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You should accept efforts she makes to improve the situation or your emotional state, you should not be begging (implicitly or overtly) for comfort or attention.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 09:28 PM
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If you want to get a bit more abstract, both your "daddy" model and C/FO rely on male leadership, a male head of household to be "the boss". The rest where you talk about obligations a captain has in serving his FO "because love" reads like nonsense to me. I am under no obligations at any point, but I find that acting honorably builds the healthiest type of monogamous relationship.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 09:08 PM
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If presented with this scenario, I would dismiss or ignore. This sort of fit/probe does not deserve unnecessarily elevated comfort gestures coming from you. Her insecurity is not your problem, and in fact, it's going to likely be to your benefit if you know how to handle her.
/r/askTRP25/01/15 07:34 AM
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You keep anything that negatively impacts your frame from your wife if it is at all possible. I disagree. Being descriptive is fine, being emotional is not. There's certainly a fortuitous timeline in revealing certain information (like delaying news about a lost job), but as long as you are confident and relatively stoic about things that happen to or around you, she will not have the cue to begin having fits due to doubting your character. Keep your head together, and the rest will be fine. Als…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 07:07 AM
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You can be direct, just don't be a bitch. Describe that you have had a hard day, don't act like it.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 07:00 AM
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Go do the dishes.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 06:59 AM
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Alright, look. You can be honest, you can be direct. You can tell your woman you had a hard day, just don't act like a little bitch. Your behavior and the atmosphere you generate is far more important than the facts here. "I had a hard day" is a world of difference from "Oh god, I feel like shit and I'm afraid of losing my job". Women act in an emotional now, You can be honest and direct about the facts, just don't drag her down with your bullshit boy feelings. Don't allow her to convince you th…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 06:55 AM
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She's not entitled to everything, she gets what you give.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/01/15 06:51 AM
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I'm the man being discussed. I don't rattle easily, I've seen and been through worse in my life. As an aside, she knows and performs her various First Officer duties quite well, which is why I continue to operate as the protector.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/15 02:19 AM
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My sense of TRP is not informed externally. I didn't read my way to success, I experimented and intuited. I can't help you with reading recommendations. I make myself available on the TRP IRC on weekdays, the details for connecting are advertised in the sidebar. I'd be happy to talk to you one on one if you have questions and seek personalized direction.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/14 01:05 PM
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Sometimes, it seems like some women know what they're talking about. It's odd, I know.
/r/askTRP14/10/14 04:58 PM
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Athol Kay is a weak man full of half measures. He leaves the house when his woman is on her period "to avoid problems". His forums are also full of nightmarish stories and pedastalizing. Take what he says with a grain of salt, and then kick it up a notch yourself.
/r/askTRP17/09/14 06:18 PM
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You're not only incorrect, you INSIST on being incorrect.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 11:19 PM
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What did your wife have to do for you to come in here to chat? Nothing, I noticed and came here on my own. I'd believe that more if you weren't in here on her request. Get it right, she did not ask me to come here. I'll be brief since you can only remember so many of my words. In a weird sense this gives them all a power over us but only because of how we choose to react. No. That is also what you did by coming in here to participate. You took the burden from her because you saw her desire and w…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/14 09:32 PM
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What did your wife have to do for you to come in here to chat? Nothing, I noticed and came here on my own. Was this your decision to do it or did she bring it up so that you would help her out? She at times does ask me to pay attention to a thread, 75% of the time it's just to give advice to a user, other times it may be something more along these lines. I am not compelled to do anything, I evaluate her request and make a decision about if will assist her. Of course she is not without the power …
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 03:15 PM
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want a man that is naturally dominant Just like men want a woman who is naturally beautiful. I don't care if she's naturally submissive, if she's not submissive to me, then I'm gone. Do I want her to be submissive to all men? No. Would I have wanted her to be submissive to any man she was dating before she met me? No. Do I want her to be trying to direct (manipulate) me into BEING SOMETHING ELSE? No. Women are not responsible for making capable men, they're only responsible for being attracted t…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/14 12:27 AM
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My guess is that it's far easier to meet naturally dominant males than it is to find a naturally inclined RP woman. My observations support this 100%. If men fail, it's always possible for them to build themselves to be better in substantive ways without a great deal of maladjustment. When women fail, it risks damaging their personality and making them ever-worse on the red flag spectrum. The longer women allow themselves to be passed around on the CC, the more apparent their "use" becomes.
/r/askTRP08/09/14 04:13 PM
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said that she needs to feel a "real connection" first This means you aren't attractive enough already, and she's slow playing you. If she was attracted to you ENOUGH, you could have taken her the first night. we were supposed to have a date tonight, but just called said she has a headache She say anything about washing her hair? A friend with emotional needs? Family visiting from out of town? Feeling ill? Time of the month? She's not that into you. Move on.
/r/askTRP29/08/14 08:57 PM
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He and I are very ride or die But, fuck his hot breakfasts if he steps out of line.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/14 05:40 PM
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After an argument last night in which I laid out some of the reasons I don't want to Let's say, for the sake of argument that a prenup would NULLIFY all of the setbacks for modern marriage. You'd probably still not want to get married because of the stigmas you hold in your mind about it, as well as many examples from other couples on how marriage seems to incentivize neither the man nor the woman to keep the relationship healthy. And her suggestion of a prenup has just shot down my main argumen…
/r/askTRP22/08/14 09:02 PM
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Talk baby talk and give stupid as fuck pet names. My favorite is "honeybabysugarpielumpkinsface" said as quickly as possible.
/r/askTRP22/08/14 08:44 PM
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Both instructive and comprehensive but without stifling the readers' own imagination. However, I think that is its own undoing. A lot of people here just won't develop the idea further in their heads unless shown examples This is very true, I write in theory and tend not to use specifics. This is to help people willing to be contemplative. The LTR situation should not be outlined as a simple A->B situation. What I would advise men putting this advice into action to keep in mind is: leading is no…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/14 04:40 PM
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you can just abuse girls who only have points 1 and 2 Sex is abuse? Plate spinning is abuse? I have an article you may just be dying to read since you seem to like ridiculous opinions.
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/14 07:01 PM
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Me and the guys over at TheRedPill appreciate all the work you guys do here and who you are as women. What these anonymous women do should not matter to you. You and whichever other redpill guys need some perspective in your OWN lives. It gives us hope Hope should be a byproduct, a feeling you get due to your own actions and goal achievement, not the direct result of reading some things women say (rather than DO). women like you are still out there Women are out there, period. AWALT. If you want…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/14 03:13 PM
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They will always be attracted to the IDEA of you. This is most important in LTRs where temporary separation is inevitable. What you MUST do is LET HER WONDER ABOUT YOU. Unfortunately, distance can occasionally be a problem due to schedule on one side or the other of the relationship. Going back to doing your own thing and paying less attention than you normally would will instill some mild dread. This is important in precisely the way OP describes. She is less present, therefore she should feel …
/r/TheRedPill29/07/14 05:13 PM
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you'll be one of the few who actually deserves it when told that your SO is lucky to have you. This is not a valid mindset for you to be holding if you're seeking an LTR. You have it backwards. She is lucky to have me. Did you think she came to these understandings or into this degree of empathy for men, or wider TRP and its process, on her own? Women require proper leadership and a fulfilling relationship in order to empathize, accept and embrace a supporting role. They need to be told that wha…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/14 03:01 PM
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They were not a threat, he had the situation well in hand. He could have been colder or more stern, but his approach didn't REVEAL some form of weakness simply because you IMAGINE you would have conducted yourself differently. Given the situation and that his actions were being filmed as well, he painted himself in the most sympathetic light, which I imagine was a third of the purpose for the camera. The other two being possible hilarity, and possible mental illness (see: hilarity).
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 10:59 PM
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I have something to say to you directly. That bitch is crazy.
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/14 07:02 PM
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I can see through a lot of feminine nonsense, and I know when something is off. If everything is well, I confidently trust, but I guard. If there is a man who would openly hit on Phantom in my presence, I would shut him down as deftly as possible. Her being attractive, and being the more likely of the two (due strictly to default sexual dynamics) to be hit on doesn't bother me, even if I'm not around. I know that SHE realizes the value I represent when compared to many other men. I am confident …
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/14 09:01 PM
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I generally have a hard rule against any woman who habitually uses substances. Irresponsible alcohol use in women seems to be absolutely nothing but trouble. Take this to askTRP to hear the guys parrot what dana has already told you.
/r/RedPillWomen19/06/14 02:51 PM
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Negative.
/r/RedPillWomen18/06/14 11:04 PM
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I support your initiative.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/14 08:41 PM
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Certainly food for thought. Strange at first when you realize how formulaic things can be.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/14 07:17 PM
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If this happened to me, you can bet I would react similarly. Covert female imperatives are often rationalized away toward others, but they may not even be known to YOU. This is part of the reason RPW promotes a defense FIRST approach to how you deal with other men. I don't blame your man for thinking this, I would be relatively sure of precisely the same thing, regardless of what you claim to know. You also claim that it "just happened" and you "weren't thinking". Yes, we know, that's what happe…
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/14 03:22 PM
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Being incorrect and bad at things is not synonymous with idiocy.
/r/askTRP07/06/14 01:03 AM
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You are incorrect and you give bad advice.
/r/askTRP07/06/14 12:32 AM
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If you can't keep her in hand, and she strays, this is 100% your fault. You failed to provide sufficient incentive for her to not act like a whore, and/or allowed her into situations where she could be a whore.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 07:39 PM
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However, at some point you have to redirect her emotional frame into something positive. This, by definition, goes along with my description. You help to temper it, so that she does not get excessively masturbatory with her emotions. Additionally, if she calms down when you suggest and put forth efforts to change her state, this means she trusts and respects you. An excellent sign.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 06:53 PM
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how to I manage the next months ? Keep it under wraps ? Or not ? It´s a lose-lose situation . Thoughts? You ignore her. Your instincts are misfiring, you are feeling territorial about a past conquest and LOOKING for reasons to be hurt over her. Your possessiveness over someone you do not own will do you no good. This does you a disservice, and is a waste of your time and emotional energy. It's clear you lack frame control, and invest your time and effort poorly. As many here have already said, s…
/r/askTRP19/05/14 05:28 AM
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neurotic switch Reeks of feminine nonsense. In short, when I get a hit of insecurity, I become emotionally distant and cold. So, things that are centered purely in your own emotional problems somehow justifies poor decision making on your part. This also reeks of feminine nonsense. You are detailing and exhibiting poor frame control, useless rationalizations, and bad leadership. Knock off your bullshit. Fear is a necessary tool in managing women within the context of relationships. Foolishly bra…
/r/askTRP19/05/14 01:20 AM
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Softening the language and diluting the intended message due to "bad feels" is always ill advised. "Bad feels" is not sufficient excuse to alter the message in any way. "Bad feels" is a typical feminine excuse/rationalization for manipulating their environment.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/14 01:03 AM
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All women require a degree of training, to be optimized for your needs and desires for your own life. If you do not train them, they will not respect you long term. When they stop respecting you, a vital condition for their love is removed and the foundation collapses. There is no wrong woman. There are undesirable women who would require so much energy to recondition, just choosing another woman is the pragmatic decision. Women are naturally inclined to be social chameleons. They adopt habits, …
/r/TheRedPill25/04/14 09:49 PM
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Your words drip with blinding wisdom. When I read your posts, my face burns as though I am standing before a grand funeral pyre.
/r/askTRP18/04/14 08:47 PM
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What makes you deserve a good man? So many women can't perform this thought exercise. I've given your post an ENTIRELY unbiased upvote.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/14 11:47 PM
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This doesn't give me much to go on, so I'll ask you direct questions rather than make conclusions based on what you've said so far (which makes you sound boring, lacking in direction, and insecure). Was there a correlation between weight gain and her difficulties with sex? Was there a correlation between overlap in your professional/domestic lives and her difficulties with sex? Have you engaged her in discussion about this topic? If so, how? Has she acquired new "male friends" or has established…
/r/askTRP08/04/14 12:00 AM
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Then she's not redpill at all. She lacks empathy as well.
/r/askTRP07/04/14 11:56 PM
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We have both gained some weight Knock it off.
/r/askTRP07/04/14 11:28 PM
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Being a good girl is different from being a RPW. Has she actually read the material on RPW, or read and digested some of the more "harsh" critiques TRP often proposes?
/r/askTRP07/04/14 11:27 PM
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2 yrs into the relationship things kinda changed, I guess the honeymoon phase was over by that time. I've seen this one a time or two. It's natural for things to mellow out from emotional highs, but if she required emotional highs to remain sexual, you may have a more serious problem than you realize. I know for a fact she is not cheating on me and im 100% positive on this. This is an impossible thing to claim. My issue is I wanna make her cum and only I. Explain to me precisely why this is impo…
/r/askTRP07/04/14 11:27 PM
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Then, we can work with you. We'll schedule something soon, I leave it up to /u/PhantomDream09 to schedule. Likely begin around 1900-2000 PST on a weekday.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/14 09:28 AM
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I'll let Phantom set conditions as she's privacy paranoid. Allowing her that freedom will give her the greatest amount of comfort and highest degree of cooperation with your intent. Perhaps we could get the three of us into an IRC room and discuss things casually one evening. If you find that less appealing, I suppose you should inform me if you'd really just prefer a survey/essay style of feedback from the two of us.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/14 07:12 PM
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I guess I don't understand why men feel the need to plate in the first place. Sex. But there is a difference between responsibility and that little extra of "respect". You earn respect. You don't get it just by being a woman. It maybe your responsibility to open your own doors, but its respectful to hold the door open for the person behind you (regardless of gender). And I elect to do that when it suits me. Just as I could plate a woman or "respect" her, which in your case means not plating her.…
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/14 01:18 AM
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"Men shouldn't have sex without an intent to keep a woman for commitment" That's what I see here. Your wish that you place ON MEN is a wish for you to not be plated. This seems like your responsibility, not the responsibility of every man around you. Do you also believe that a woman who drinks irresponsibly in public should then be coddled and catered to by any and every White Knight around her, correcting her stupid mistake? It's your responsibility to not waste your youth, beauty, sexuality an…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/14 11:44 PM
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Thank you. There’s a real dearth of positive LTR advice on this forum. Perhaps you could cross post to /r/RedPillRelationships? I try not to repost my own articles. It looks a little like attention whoring to me, and I want my post history very clearly laid out for anyone who reviews it. You're free to repost any of my stuff you like, as is anyone else. I must memorize and use this as a mantra. It should serve you well. There’s the “be a better man” kind of post that works for everyone and then …
/r/TheRedPill03/04/14 07:53 PM
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If you want another cupcake, have another cupcake. No one has to know about it. Phantom, I'll be conducting an audit of your cupcake habit. I'll be on the lookout for red velvet crumbs.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/14 11:51 PM
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Either don't respond, or be honest in addressing the behavior later with a simple, calm mention on how you're often busy (if you want her to throttle back). She's welcome to express anything she feels like, but you're under no obligation to act along the lines of her expectations or her strict wants. You are in the business of addressing needs, and merited wants.
/r/askTRP26/03/14 12:38 AM
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Because if she's attracted to me then she must see some loser qualities in me. Let's not forget the importance of branch swinging to hypergamy. You're the superior choice in the scenario you're describing. The female you're talking about wants to see HOW much better you are.
/r/askTRP20/03/14 11:30 PM
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I got all these situations in my head and I keep trying to play each one out based on how I think she'll respond. This is a desire for control, and is a tactic used by people who are terrified of failure. You will fail, it's inevitable. The worst thing to do is try at all costs to avoid it, generating anxiety and a lack of opportunities for success all the while. It might give me some satisfaction now but is unsustainable and will fail unless I learn to apply the theory rather than apply a respo…
/r/askTRP19/03/14 08:10 PM
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Noted, but I prefer to work more in theory. My examples wouldn't decide the dynamics others are able to build for themselves.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 03:39 PM
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Do you people ever try anything new? Sure. does she say she doesn't wish to go to that one? Again, If she elects to pipe up on anything I listen, think, decide, and it's done. Sometimes her input will encourage me to course correct, sometimes not at all. Depends on what I want, and what her reasoning is. Typically, I know what she likes and doesn't like. I also make choices based on what's "on diet" for us. When I make a suggestion, she's overwhelmingly likely to just accept it and go, not make …
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 02:32 PM
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No. If she has concerns she'll present them to me with all the information she knows to be relevant, including her feels, and I'll either act on it or not. If she elects to pipe up on anything I listen, think, decide, and it's done. As she's keenly aware of how important respect is in our relationship, she only does so if she feels strongly on something. She tries not to appear to be second guessing me. Sometimes it's just the act of airing her anxiety over something that she really needs, and I…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 01:07 PM
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No problem. Want to add a section on "the long game?" Not a bad idea, I'll add it to my list of future topic items.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 10:04 PM
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The chart you provide should be in the leading advanced human sexuality textbook and your writings should be a Chapter. I'm going to get a tattoo of this quote. Does doing your best really remove the fear of making the wrong decision? Anxiety is not particularly useful when making decisions, and second guessing yourself after the fact isn't constructive. If you make the wrong call, and come to recognize this, you just need to move forward with the lesson in tow. Dwelling on failure, or on the po…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 09:49 PM
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No man deserves a woman, they earn them.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 04:31 AM
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I haven't seen these before, but the partnered graph seems LUDICROUS. I really would have speculated that the married and the partnered graphs would trade places from where they currently are, IE less sex in marriages than in strict LTR's. This, however, should not be considered an endorsement for marriage. Acquire the right strategy for any LTR, and I don't think sex will ever be a problem for a man with great frame, and overall RP comprehension (marriage or no). Edit: Cursory Google search yie…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:40 PM
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In the interest of being constructive, I just want to say: Hahaha.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/14 06:01 AM
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More explicitly...throw her around the bed when you are having sex. Dominate her physically as well as psychologically and emotionally. Yes, it's implied, but this is especially important. Pick her up by the hips or the thighs and shift her about. Before anything begins (and sometimes, sexual activity isn't even apparent to her) hoist her over your shoulder and toss her on the bed.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 10:18 PM
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I don't like reposting my own stuff, but you're free to. I don't want my post history with x-post duplicates, I want it easy to navigate for people who look at my submitted and see a clear Part 1-Current progression.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 10:16 PM
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TRP needs a section for LTR's and OMG's. Thanks to OP for this wonderful contribution and for the links. The mods plan on a flair coming for LTR material. LTR articles can be appropriately tagged and sorted within TRP when that's ready. I'll be retagging all of mine, and I plan to message OP's of some particularly good LTR articles to retag their old posts as well. There's also /r/RedPill_Couples Men get married and they fall into the role of the wife as their mother (which is the type of love t…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 04:02 PM
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You should entertain the assertions that TRP makes about the nature of women. Put the tone aside, or whatever such post you consider to be pure chest pounding, and really think about the implications of things like hypergamy and the dual mating strategy of women. If something doesn't seem to stack with your personal experience, then you're not likely to understand it fully, but it's worth considering openly and honestly because whatever you think is unflatteringly said about women over there, is…
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/14 11:35 PM
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Chemically treated, platinum blonde hair. Check. Sports subtle, classic makeup. Check. Wears fitted clothing. Check. Tells other women to do less with themselves. Check. Wait, what?
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 06:26 PM
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Have fun dealing with her shitty behavior.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 04:24 PM
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When you compare shitty fitness and shitty behavior, which one would you speculate is easier to influence? I ask you this very rhetorically.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 12:38 AM
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Quick point: 10's are a product of bias. A good majority of us will never be able to "land" our personal 10's due to a combination of factors, which can mean a lack of appropriate status, income, natural facial aesthetics, etc. 9+ has incredibly high competition, and promoting the "easy banging" of these women lacks recognition of your own value, honestly. Primarily, to sleep with you or want you long term, the woman needs to not merely recognize your value, but think of you as superior to herse…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/14 09:43 PM
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I've had to address hitting with women before. It's both an exercise in superior position (via social privilege), and disrespect. A man who does not stop you from hitting him lacks either authority or self-respect. These hitting behaviors could escalate as well. I'm not necessarily saying this escalation is in a physical realm, but more on an interpersonal level. You are as you do, this is why RPW promote respect so much. If you practice disrespect, this could bleed elsewhere that you do not wan…
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 07:17 PM
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This is something a lot f men misunderstand. Simple delegation still holds you in a place of personal authority.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 03:40 PM
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I think this is a very relevant standard.
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/14 03:39 PM
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This is an absurd stance. A woman with self respect, and conservative sexuality would have standards, and promises that she keeps not only to herself, but her plans for the future. If you walk away from a woman of quality who doesn't immediately give into you, YOU are missing out on a good thing, she is not. If she is not quality enough to you in the first place to consider commitment, then keeping her promises to herself regarding commitment and sex PREVENTS HER FROM NEEDLESSLY RIDING THE CAROU…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/14 08:38 PM
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Female love is a response, male love is a responsibility. She will only love you as far as you show her something worth loving. A man in love is a lost man, wading through fog. Instead, be a man that gives love.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/14 04:47 PM
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make the right choice
/r/RedPillWomen23/02/14 04:23 AM
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Try this thread.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/14 05:10 PM
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I trust this series explicitly without even having read it, because ninjas know a thing or two about power.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/14 01:40 AM
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This whole ridiculous concept is doomed to abject failure.
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/14 07:09 PM
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This is nonsense. Why would he be willing to marry you at all? There is literally zero incentive to marry someone who is never going to meet your physical needs as a man. This man sounds like an idiot. If he is high value, wants to marry you, gains absolutely no benefit, and accepts all the risks of marriage? I can confirm now that he's an idiot.
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/14 07:05 PM
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I'm calling you on it. It's not because all women literally do the exact same thing. NAWLDTEST fallacy!
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 06:47 PM
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As nuance is lost on most people, maintaining strict definitions is important because it causes one to THINK about the implications. Constantly addressing things in spectrums or bell curves with every discussion would result in a lot of unproductive debates and open leeway to exceptions being discussed more than valid hypotheses. You have to be willing to accept and internalize harsh realities, regardless of the capacity for outliers. This equips you with the best tools, a stellar framework, and…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/14 05:06 PM
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Curious. I was certain that women weren't that forgiving.
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/14 02:37 PM
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Is that so? I just happen to have my D.F.A. in Paraneurodemipsychology, and my rorschach flash cards tell me you smile too much.
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/14 02:24 PM
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You smile too much.
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/14 12:35 AM
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They're both likely failing to try sufficiently, and he's simply not attracted enough to her.
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/14 01:43 AM
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Important: Has either one of them gotten fat since they first met?
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/14 01:07 AM
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You'll have to follow that last bit up with some detail. I'll assume your religious examples were flourishes and your husband has purchased a car.
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/14 12:48 AM
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Religious cultism or extremely irresponsible financial decisions aside, you know what I'm getting at. He'd have to do something that displays he's ill or ACTIVELY DENYING that he is hurting his marriage or his family through measures that risk self or mutual destruction on emotional or financial levels. They also do crazy irrational things some times. Not being able or willing to explain oneself is not the same thing as being irrational. Often, what seems irrational really is not, you only have …
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/14 12:30 AM
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MMSL isn't extremely valuable in my eyes. It's great opener material, but it doesn't go far enough, and it's written for men with a HISTORY OF FAILURE. That said, it's still got great "mind opening" material to get people thinking more about what they want, how to quantify trends, and some generous differentiation on male and female behaviors and desires. You don't overrule the Captain. Period. That defies the whole structure, and the idea that you could or should can't be entertained unless you…
/r/RedPillWomen11/02/14 12:08 AM
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Tell him to "man up" lol Consider this your first warning. There will not be a second. MAN DOWN.
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/14 11:40 PM
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If someone snuck vegetables into my food, heads would roll.
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/14 08:13 PM
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I do my best to help where I can, but only when I'm approached or someone seems ready for it. This is mostly a Reddit stance, and I conduct myself a little more openly with those I actually care about or know in my personal life. Without that boundary, it would be too easy to throw time and effort away on the internet masses who will, well more often than not, force themselves to not listen.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/14 04:29 PM
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This is why, with my only reddit handle, I keep myself in RP subs. Anything else I do to connect with people or dispense my opinion is officially a waste of my time.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/14 03:18 PM
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No problem. Be patient and optimistic. Be safe, but not defensive.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/14 04:15 AM
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She was thoughtful and thought-provoking. Her writeup and presentation was unusual in the sense that there was no negativity, no overt "I'm an independent wimmenz" vibes, and she seemed very pragmatic. Her first reaction was never to get carried away, it was to calm herself, and compose a neutral response- even if I was trying to wind her up a bit. I'd been messaged before by women, and usually it's an ego or time saving "You're handsome" or "Hi, my name is X and I'd like to talk". I didn't real…
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/14 04:06 AM
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Wait, so you're saying in the case I presented, where she didn't return your text, you would talk to her about not returning texts? Within the frame of relationships, which you'd presented earlier, yes I would confront my partner on non-communication. It's not acceptable behavior for her to not treat me with priority. If you're talking about plates outside commitment, your solution is much more appropriate given that context. Would you have a talk with her if she didn't fuck you? What if she was…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/14 05:39 PM
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Stoicism.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/14 03:48 PM
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Does she exhibit expectation around the holiday traditions? You have no obligation, and she should understand this. That said, if I ever do anything on this, I make it a couples activity. I will make sure both of our time goes into preparing for the holiday or for the evening. Get a couple of nice steaks, plan a side dish, couple glasses of something classy. Stay in, show your time and focus on her foremost rather than token gestures. If she's smart, sentimental, and non-materialistic, these thi…
/r/TheRedPill06/02/14 03:19 PM
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Well, I certainly wouldn't trust a woman who spends a lot of time talking to internet strangers. Sounds risky.
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/14 03:12 AM
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Ringside divorce court seats
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/14 01:59 AM
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I err toward directness in everything I do, this includes addressing behaviors I find unacceptable. It's what works most effectively in my experience, but then my partner is quite active in RPW, so I don't need to be covert about any of my methods. The mileages. They're varying.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 05:34 PM
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Both would depend on the severity of the infraction. Lies and omissions are bad enough, but they are compounded by the seriousness in what was lied about or avoided. Both 1 and 2 damage trust, even when the truth comes out. I would react with LESS severity if 2.) was the case in nearly every instance, unless it was a foundational lie or a completely unacceptable action for continuing a relationship. Foundational lie examples: Partner count*, romantic history with one of her friends she's still c…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 05:08 PM
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Without an example, I can't tell you how I would react, but generally and with a majority skew I would say yes. This depends on if she has lied to you, or intentionally withheld information she KNEW would upset you, they are absolutely equivalent. Deception is unacceptable.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 04:33 PM
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If she is unclear why you are withdrawing and asks you, you can tell her but you should never be the one to go to her and have a 'talk' about a problem in her behavior. I would say this depends on if the problem is known or not. If it's a problem you have addressed before, no need to explain. If it has NOT been disclosed that you find her tardiness unacceptable, or something similar, I find it's best to be disclosed. I err toward disclosure when I see or encounter unacceptable behavior in the MO…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 04:14 PM
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But should you still let her know explicitly that her behavior was unacceptable? Every. Time. Use the word "disappointed" profusely. Do not engage in too much emotional content. Be cold, direct, and authoritative, regardless of her emotional content toward you.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 04:11 PM
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The best revenge is always to live a better life than you had before.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 03:54 PM
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I support everything said here. Your "negative reinforcement" should be your blatant absence or non-investment. If you engage in actual punishment, like yelling or "corporal punishment" as I've seen at least one user promote, you fulfill a sense of drama and risk INCREASING the behaviors you're attempting to correct because the essence of your punishment is still attention. The only truly effective way to mete out punishment without increasing the risk factors for dramatizing disagreements or un…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/14 03:47 PM
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This series is for men who are in an LTR, or wish for one. Keep pumping and dumping at your speed, yours is a different strategy from what some men wish for themselves.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/14 06:34 PM
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The important bit is that you're working on the mind set, you've been and continue to be introspective. Part of this in the RPW frame is improving on what you've been given to maintain maximum happiness with your man. There is no perfection, there is always more to do.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 02:04 AM
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You think a woman with a perfect body has to do much introspection in her life? That she won't have an enormous sense of entitlement by being a highly sought and ideal commodity for a vast majority of men?
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 02:00 AM
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If they were mutually exclusive (and that is normally the case) , a solid RPW mindset beats a perfect body every time.
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/14 01:54 AM
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This was addressing flooding the job market due to feminism, I suspect. This is an ideological overall opinion, not an opinion on what every woman should be doing with her life.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 06:42 PM
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Men don't have the same mentality with this. When I see a very fit and attractive guy (like a model), I don't immediately veer to jealousy or comparisons to myself due to self esteem issues. I think "that's an impressive specimine" and then I think about what more I could be doing if the specimine somehow does make me feel inadequate. Also, to be frank, men bitch less about the success of other men.
/r/RedPillWomen03/02/14 03:07 PM
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I find your attitude and responses to be off-putting. I am addressing this by getting your attention, and doing so in a humorous way. I don't see harshness in what I've stated here. If you want evidence of my positive intent, I borrowed a smiley from Phantom that I now gift to you. :0)
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/14 09:35 AM
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Here are two separate ideas for the third book you may want to write in your business venture. Clarity. Attitude adjustment.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/14 09:11 AM
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And when it comes to attracting a man, so long as you aren't "feisty", "strong and independent", "beautiful on the inside", etc., it's a matter of taste. For instance, you could find a man with bad taste to date! Consequently, you should be able to be who you are and reasonably expect to find a mate. This line is very suspect. Extraordinarily suspect. And once said mate is in the picture, if problems arise it should then be because of some sort of rebelliousness. Not a deep character issue becau…
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/14 08:53 AM
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In my head, I'm thinking of a woman who is, at worst, an "acquired taste". Would it be in her best interest to change? Yes. Is it imperative that she do so? Not in my opinion. I think these lines are telling. My "likes to argue and wants a man to put up with her" sense is tingling.
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/14 08:49 AM
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Of course I believe I could truly love my man. I don't care if other girls do or do not. All that matters is that I defend the love I share with him. This is evidence that you are taking a conceptual discourse to a personal realm. This includes a generous degree of bias and emotion, and you do yourself a disservice by operating this way. All that matters is that I defend the love I share with him. Clearly, this is the purpose of your entire response. You are showing a generous degree of solipsis…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/14 01:01 AM
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Your concept relies on completely selfless love from two sources without any conditions other than a duration until critical failure. Humans cannot do this "conditionless" love, there are always conditions, breaking points, etc. If you rolled in some untimely death or premeditated murder, then perhaps you could successfully fulfill your personal and flawed criteria of "true love". You can say love can be true, because when it happens, it is true. It's factual, it's happening. But saying true lov…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 07:27 PM
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All love is conditional, there is no true love. As an aside, presuming your concept is real, you cannot qualify (over the Internet, as an impersonal statememt) that a group of people have not experienced something like your personal concept of "true love". Your conclusion is very dismissive.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 02:59 PM
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9wdvgiN281rrk7c1o1_400.gif
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 02:42 PM
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It just is. Learning about how to influence your partner and help curtail this instinct is valuable for men. Learning about this instincts existence, function, and how to direct and minimize the damages it can cause is valuable for women. It's no more of a "good or bad" thing than natural male aggression, how one deals with this and the damage it can cause if unchecked is where you evaluate "good or bad".
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 06:52 AM
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1.) Your idea is terrible and completely contrary to what RPW would choose for themselves. Using their bodies to generate attention from any audience other than their man is repulsive to them. 2.) You complimented my woman and I found it amusing. Mods, strip the flair off this waste of space. You feel enabled to make such a call to action because you carry so much weight for your valuable contributions to places like TRP- but also to /r/cringepics, /r/aww, /r/funny, etc etc. As an aside, your fr…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:48 AM
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I dislike your idea, but I enjoy your trailing, parenthetical hypothesis. I've said it to you before, and I'll say it again: Your post history reads like an awful caricature.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:25 AM
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HAHAHAHA. So good. Top-shelf troll.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 05:12 AM
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my SO can't get me to shut-up It can be a problem around bedtime, but I have a few methods to secure silence.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/14 12:08 AM
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Well, now that you've giving me lip like that, I'm suddenly 28.32% more misogynistic than you are.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:44 PM
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I probably have a shorter fuse when it comes to women acting out than Occam does. Confirmed. Phantom is ~0.1% more misogynistic than I am.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 10:23 PM
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If you were to introduce your daughters to the commonly talked on features of female nature discussed on TRP (hypergamy for example), would you attempt to be explicit and clinical in discussing these natures with them, or try to educate less directly?
/r/TheRedPill29/01/14 09:25 PM
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Your post history reads like an awful caricature.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/14 02:04 AM
2

Sometimes just punctuated grunting.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 07:27 PM
2

Deal.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 06:39 PM
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If he didn't want you for himself, or his goals, he wouldn't have you at all. If he treats you well, I would think of these tempered dark triad traits as not even contextually neutral, but directly beneficial to you specifically.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 05:02 PM
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The extreme expression of dark triad traits is untempered alpha. Nothing exists independently, you're trying to address a spectrum. A man with no selfishness would be termed beta. A man with no drive would be termed beta. A man who didn't care about himself would be termed beta. I care for my partner, but to say I don't exhibit some selfishness amongst my kindness and generosity would be a lie. And, she would tell you herself, she enjoys most moments I pursue what I want in a single-minded fashi…
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 04:39 PM
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I would say "marry me", but then you'll just get all crazy.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/14 03:53 PM
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Are you Athol? Hahaha. No, I assume if he were to make any substantive posts here in TRP, he would be exceedingly likely to self-identify and promote his book sales. Besides, he already has a community all his own via his forums to concern himself with. Is it really a problem to be betaized in this period? Showing some beta is good, but this should never mean that you supplicate. You know your partner better than any stranger on the internet, but when you say- the smallest amount of alpha would …
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 05:33 PM
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Sometimes a real role model i.e. father is not enough. This is true and often I find that there is not enough involvement from the father, or he's a bad role model in general.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 05:10 PM
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To follow your comment, I don't have a problem with followers. I do have a problem with desperation and bad taste. If the follower had a strong male role model with more direct, physical interaction with the adolescent/teen, then the same dedication and admiration a follower usually offloads onto comics or "geek" pursuits would be put to actual constructive character building that matters more to his overall success in life than geek minutia and fanboyism. I was something of a geek myself for qu…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 04:33 PM
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First, there is no anger. I use capitalization for EMPHASIS. Though, I will admit that it's annoying to see foxes in the hen house as often as I do around RPW. We could argue the minutia here, but you'll go on blaming society. RPW is an anti-feminist, pro-commitment, pro-relationship supporting place. So, when you say- I would teach my daughter to trust her initial instincts, find a strong man and support him through his growth. Don't bail at the first tingle of unhaaaappppy and realize that in …
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 04:21 PM
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He won't even face any direct consequences because he drank himself to death already. All part of the plan. Evil genius, indeed.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 04:14 PM
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Ignore the kitten, that's a reward. In fact, if the relationship is on the rocks, why are you supplicating by buying gifts at all? In any case, I would look into getting books that don't directly go onto TRP ideals or relationships in general. Maybe start with some behavioral economics like Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely.
/r/askTRP23/01/14 04:03 PM
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If you're reading MMSL, I assume that you're interested in LTR material and likely already in an LTR. LTR Game: Maintaining Frame LTR Game Part 4: Positive Masculinity The second link contains links to my other two articles, and may or may not be fully applicable to you.
/r/askTRP23/01/14 04:01 PM
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This. Is. Horrific. There's certainly a gradient of behaviors that constitutes leaders and followers, but some of this just reeks desperation and bad taste. Betas get attached and don't respect themselves, but this is an altogether different ballgame. It turns the stomach.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/14 03:55 PM
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I can honestly not name a single happy, well adjusted matriarch. It seems that women in positions of interpersonal power just end up full of resentment and bitterness for a myriad of reasons.
/r/RedPillWomen22/01/14 03:19 PM
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Even though I don't actually believe he's in charge, my wording was intentional to make him to come to realize that he's not, and he doesn't like that. Planting seeds is important. Even if what you did there doesn't result in positive change in every case, I absolutely support women and men in the know providing this sort of input regularly. Evoke thought.
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/14 08:10 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/x4fsxK8.jpg
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/14 10:23 PM
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Not recommended.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/14 07:44 PM
1

I had some pretty low standards at 15.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/14 07:37 PM
1

I'm an outlier, I imagine, but the only reason I remember my first is any time I get that acid reflux feeling of scorched esophagus.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/14 06:46 PM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this approach if it's not the only one you use. If you have a strong desire or feeling to do a certain thing or to enjoy a certain food, then phrase it strongly. Elseways, it's not a problem to give choices. I do both, it works and it suits both me and my partner. The point is that you don't let things hang in the air and get to a "What do you wanna do? I don't know" situation. The biggest thing is that you give a CLEAR vision. This id done through stating …
/r/TheRedPill17/01/14 08:34 PM
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There is a fundamental disconnect between plate theory and the primary RPW strategy. I encourage you to read the above refutations if you're confused, because you haven't made a new argument that wasn't already made in this thread. If you're not done spinning plates, you don't have to be, but no woman of sufficient value for an LTR should be your plate in an interview phase, this is how a woman can get herself set up to be serially used and heart broken, racking up her count and her issues simul…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 03:39 PM
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"There must be some way out of here" Said the Joker to the Thief.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/14 02:12 AM
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If she's only had one live-in, and it was multi-year, then maybe she's less likely to fuck around. I agree that the suitability is dependent on many factors, but the primary one is always you. This is why you say- LTR game is soooo much more difficult, especially if you live together. Dealing with fitness tests and your own day-to-day ups and downs when you only see her a few days a week is a lot less work than when she's the first face you see in the morning and the last when you go to sleep. F…
/r/askTRP17/01/14 01:29 AM
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Certainly, I was clarifying and adding to his statement with my input. Many people meld the two things directly when they're actually points on a continuum.
/r/askTRP16/01/14 11:27 PM
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I would be an absolute fool to dismiss other guaranteed sexual partners for the chance of sex with one person. If sex is your primary goal, then get as much sex as possible. If a solid LTR is your goal, sex is a secondary goal. The primary goal is a woman with actual character and values that make her ideal for both you and a LTR. Feminism and sexual liberation have destroyed the withholding sex bargaining chip. On a societal, but not an individual level. You don't determine that every woman mus…
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 10:07 PM
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seemed rather close-minded to other possibilities We address generalities here. Covering every existing exception or speculative possibility is less constructive than covering the things that are the most true most often. the man dominating the relationship I write my material for men who wish to lead their relationship as a preferred structure. I don't address every contingency and possibility because if you prefer more egalitarianism, you have many other resources at your disposal. I'm confuse…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 08:51 PM
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There's a generous difference between genuinely anti-social and introverted. My partner is introverted, which means she's more comfortable at home than out at a club with strangers even if I'm there to escort. An extreme of introversion is solidly anti-social. Her preference in comfort, however, does not mean she'll ever give me an excuse if I decide to take her somewhere. She respects me enough to go outside her normal comfort zone if ever it is my preference. when you can't smile and have a go…
/r/askTRP16/01/14 07:11 PM
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This could go either way, it really depends on how stable she is NOW, and the conditions the prior relationship(s) ended. You need to be relatively certain she wasn't crazy THEN or has actually learned to be better this time around. Living with a romantic partner gives experience in cohabitation. People may be reluctant to change their habits with an existing partner, but when things fall apart it becomes much easier to recliabrate yourself with a new one. I don't like the thought of my girlfrie…
/r/askTRP16/01/14 07:08 PM
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If your caricature of a personality is bringing you success, it's no wonder you have such a low opinion of women in general. It's their fault, I'm sure.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 04:08 AM
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RPW does not share your views. That's an explanation. The hens over there are fairly consistent the ban hammer. If someone does not share their views, like feminists, they are also banned.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 04:01 AM
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Nowhere have I rationalized anything, check the Glossary on the sidebar for a refresher.
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 03:51 AM
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I summarized you as saying: "Have my children. I'm paying for you as if you were a whore, but you're only obligated to be a mother. I will never love you. I'll fuck whatever I want. Get to work on the dishes." To which you said: Wow, I guess even TRP will think I'm fucked up for this but, you hit the nail on the head with that quote. In fact, I find real solace and peace of mind when my philosophy has been so eloquently restated. It's a perfect balance of the cold-hearted cordiality I want in my…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 03:38 AM
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Interesting. Two year old account, first post to TRP, I'm not even the OP and you single me out. I smell motive, but, alright. I'll bite. This can be true in a relationship where both partners are fairly self conscious and emotionally unstable. Funny, I'd call a man who needlessly leaks emotion onto his partner emotionally unstable. I don't think anyone wants to be unloaded upon, it's not something one seeks to have happen to them UNLESS they get some form of charge from it or hope it gives them…
/r/TheRedPill16/01/14 03:19 AM
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Use it as a pick-up line and submit a field report.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 01:40 AM
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"Have my children. I'm paying for you as if you were a whore, but you're only obligated to be a mother. I will never love you. I'll fuck whatever I want. Get to work on the dishes." Maybe not condescending, but you are most definitely a dick.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 01:28 AM
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No self-respecting woman would knowingly begin a relationship like this, certainly not the RPW I've had extended conversations with. The only thing I plan to contribute to the relationship is... respect You say you will contribute respect, but I find the very premise of the relationship you wish to arrange as disrespectful to its core. You could possibly find a woman willing to do this, but it's really confusing to imagine why she would find this worthwhile unless you're very rich and that's all…
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 01:19 AM
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and there's always laundry to fold. Ugh. Why did you have to have to remind me?
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 01:15 AM
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condones pro-rape behavior. HAHAHAHA. Hi, my name's OccamsUsername, and I'm here to condone pro-rape behavior. Thanks, my neck hurts from the laughter whiplash.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/14 12:25 AM
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You have to be immovable so that she feels safe when her emotions roam, and to heed your guidance. She will be tied to your centered disposition, and you can always tug her back toward you to limit her stress and emotional fallout. Women can become repulsed when their image of you as a solid man is tainted by very human weakness. It's not their fault. This reminder is an important one. You are the rock, you are the cornerstone, and you set the foundation. If you show your woman that you're not a…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 07:30 PM
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Based on the reading I've done on your situation, I think you should start again. If you don't think that's possible, or if you're too devoted to be willing to do that, then you need to make sure never to get there again if your current relationship ultimately fails. When you are no longer happy and change or improvement seems unlikely, you must move on and you must always be willing to do so.
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 06:20 AM
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Let it go for now. Decisively address disrespect the moment it happens. You should always be willing to walk, you are no slave or servant. Work on things with her if you like, but it sounds like you either won't get a stable dynamic working with this girl, OR you're not ready for a relationship in general. Until you learn how to calibrate and control yourself, you'll probably keep failing. To close, I do not understand overemotional men. How you can let your feels rule you much like women do is …
/r/askTRP15/01/14 12:29 AM
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You address individual instances of disrespect decisively. You need to figure out how you can effectively do this given your.... touchy feely nature. You need to care a lot less about this whole giver thing you have going on, it's going to repeatedly bite you on your ass if you wear your heart on your sleeve and need external validation. I'm not at all surprised to hear that she's lacking in attraction for you when it seems that you're conducting yourself immaturely in a consistent way. Expressi…
/r/askTRP14/01/14 10:22 PM
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No, I think that needing to respond to that at all indicates how bad the situation is. Nobody who respected me in a relationship has ever leaned on the "I'm in charge" nonsense, and if they did, I'd probably laugh at them and walk away, leaving them to their own devices for a day or longer. They can be in charge all they like, but I'm going to absolutely and abruptly discard the notion that this authority includes me whatsoever.
/r/askTRP14/01/14 09:37 PM
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what if she just really isnt horny or in the mood? Then you're not doing enough to stoke her fire. Sometimes my lady isn't "in the mood", and she knows that simply ENGAGING me physically and being receptive puts her right there even if she lagged a bit on the up front. If something else is going on, like illness or injury, that's understandable. But, my needs and almost the entirety of my wants never get ignored or discarded, ever. She and I both recognize this as a crucial ingredient to a harmo…
/r/askTRP14/01/14 09:34 PM
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as a joke That's to test the waters. The expressions and attitudes progress from there when you show you are open to disrespect and lack leadership.
/r/askTRP14/01/14 09:26 PM
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She really does want to be with With you as the supplicant. she said she will do anything I say No, she won't, she's shown you this. She's turning you down for sex. I dont think thats the answer A girl who loves you will meet your needs when requested or demanded, for a time. A woman will seek to meet your needs without request.
/r/askTRP14/01/14 08:53 PM
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I cant just let it go Then you work on yourself first. You are the only thing you can truly change. If you unwilling or unable, then you are doomed to repeat. The hope that you can change someone else fully when you are not able to change yourself is a faulty notion. she makes the rules. That would be strike three, even if there were no strikes prior. I require too much love and attention Out come independence. You need to settle your inner life down to the point that it doesn't become outward e…
/r/askTRP14/01/14 07:38 PM
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1.) Walk away. Withdraw attention. Do not get frustrated, do not get negative at her, do not beg or plead or bargain. You drop it when she drops your intent, and you go do something on your own. She withdraws sex, you withdraw attention and seem unconcerned. If this behavior of hers lasts too long AND you have been improving yourself physically (read: lift, bro), you need to consider moving on. 2.) Her response is a shit test, she's trying to alter your behavior and her jealousy makes her uncomf…
/r/askTRP14/01/14 07:13 PM
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Sounds like you've got a good deal on your hands, secure it to the best of your ability and don't stop improving yourself and honing your strategy.
/r/askTRP14/01/14 06:09 PM
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Of course I do.
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/14 05:51 PM
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Congratulations. May your hammer be mighty, and always strike true.
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/14 04:20 PM
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This may be helpful to you. Check out my other submitted items for LTR posts.
/r/askTRP14/01/14 03:45 PM
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That was a joke.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/14 01:44 PM
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Thanks as always for your perspective and for taking the time to write it all down. I want to give back to the community in the form of advice and a style of presentation I would have given to the Occam of 10 years ago. I didn't have a very strong set of male role models growing up. I had to plan the me I wanted to be and figure out how to execute it. And, of course, as a CISSCUM white male sexist, I consider it my privilege to teach others and help out. For anyone thinking of moving toward some…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 06:02 PM
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I will say that the only reason I ever got onto Reddit was for TRP. Prior to that, I couldn't be bothered to give two damns, or even a single damn.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 04:38 PM
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essentially the model of the perfect RPW. Depends on who you ask. Apparently some think that blowjobs are 3/4 of the job. I suppose that falls under the "good wife" territory.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 03:58 PM
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Safety is rare for men because we provide it, we don't seek it.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/14 03:32 PM
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Don't mind if I do.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 01:49 PM
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I was relating it to the purpose for the entire paragraph. You don't need her and will correct her presence in your life if necessary.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:18 AM
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This seems odd to claim.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 07:16 AM
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Oh, on happiness. I'm quite pleased with the man I am. I know my value. Women are exciting, sex is fun, charming and amusing people is rewarding. I could do either happily, but I want a dedicated partner for myself. That overrides the free and breezy fun of plate spinning for me. Having a woman long term has been a goal at different points in my life, but it's never been my mission.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 01:33 AM
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Does "negative realm" in this situation imply an emotional outburst? Or manipulative? Emotional realm on the former. On the latter, we all manipulate each other, the means and the result are what matter. If you sit someone down for a "Serious Talk(tm)" that's an intention to manipulate. It's not a dirty word or an evil concept, you need to think about your means of manipulation and the intended result. Those two things can skew very negatively. What do you consider valid as compared to invalid? …
/r/TheRedPill09/01/14 12:56 AM
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Nobody benefits by just saying "You're fucked, enjoy your incel badge". This is a place for motivation as well, as long as you're not whiney and sensitive. You asked for input, and users are giving you feedback. This is a "brommunity", for lack of a better term, and if you're out of line or being stupid, you're likely to get comments to that effect.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 04:34 PM
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You need to not care about the result. Outcome independence is absolutely necessary if you're at a decided physical deficit. Yes, you can internalize the behaviors of game and make sure you hold solid frame. If rejection is an emotional issue for you, I suggest practicing stoicism. With limited physical qualities you'll have a much tougher time of it than someone who is 6'2" and been working out for a good long while, but that should not matter to you and you need to get there. Desperation, inse…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 03:42 PM
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This is a sad, sad shopping list. As an aside, why do I have to excuse your crazy? Get it under control so neither of us suffer your inanity.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 03:25 PM
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They're both valid strategies. Each individual needs to figure out what results in the greatest net benefit.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 03:21 PM
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Know: The law is against your brother in any way defending himself. My own brother was abused in two successive relationships. The first was bad, the second was much worse. Destruction of property, horrid mood swings, she would physically hit him repeatedly and throw things at him in front of their children. The police were called on this three separate times on noise complaints, each time she tried to frame him to send him to jail and he was so messed up each time, they luckily did not try and …
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/14 03:19 AM
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You call it like you see it with women, let them have the opportunity to do the same and address what she comes at you with.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 01:48 AM
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You don't supplicate when you're wrong. You admit the mistake and improve things with future behavior, but you do not under any circumstances willingly supplicate over a negative reaction to your decisions. He should have started by waiting until she wanted to talk.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 01:42 AM
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You need to think like a guy who has already gotten what he wants, and could take or leave opportunities.
/r/askTRP08/01/14 01:38 AM
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That's a solid plan, if you've got the plan, then what's the trouble? You have a ton of reading material through TRP and the manosphere, find traits in your character you know you need to improve, make sure to shake approach anxiety early by taking risks. Find game that's closer to your character than not, and start there.
/r/askTRP08/01/14 01:29 AM
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I've seen these strategies, but they don't make sense to me. Do you have some obvious deficit that causes you to go wide net and not specifically approach individual women? Are you short, fat, uneducated, whatever- something that would make most women look and say "Not attractive"?.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 01:22 AM
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Woah there, you're over thinking all of this. My question is just how do I lose it With a woman. what to think about The goal, but before that, the means. and how to preferably go about finding a girl that is attractive enough for me? That depends on what your standards are and what you have to leverage. If you want to get it "done with" or snag a quality woman. If you're really this clueless about all physical intimacy, you'd have a lot better luck trying to shoot just at or below your attracti…
/r/askTRP08/01/14 01:18 AM
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Man, you know how many hours I've put into OKC over the past few months just to come out with a handful of makeouts and a flukey ONS? FUCK. Have you located the reason for your lack of being able to attract women? My success rate was never poor, and I know that mileages vary, but months seems like a ridiculous amount of time to spend without much return.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/14 01:02 AM
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you bet your buttons HAHAHAHA.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 11:06 PM
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A severe lack of respect. The men attached to these women are likely doing things wrong.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 08:14 PM
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NAWALT FALLACY
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 05:54 PM
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Long term relationships aren't so much frowned on as they are a poor means for most men to meet their needs. Those who decide to spin plates want access to sex without too much emotional, temporal, or financial investment.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 05:18 PM
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Interlocurape - The attempt to start an exchange of words with a woman.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 05:15 PM
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She's a good woman, and an endorsed contributor on RPW.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 02:32 PM
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I endorse this post. Really, really hard.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 07:53 AM
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Need to remember to tie you down next time so you don't overturn anything.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/14 06:59 AM
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Nobody here wants equality in the way feminists promote. They want happiness, defined roles, and an exchange of means to meet one another's needs. This in no way includes feminism. You keep your feminism out of my bedroom.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 05:15 AM
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They will constantly skew laws and social narratives in favor of women. This is what they have done for quite some time now. The definition is irrelevant if the entire social movement does not reflect it. It's called a banner, or PR. "If you believe women should be equal, and that women are human, you are now a feminist"
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:20 AM
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feminism advocates for equality Just adorable.
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/14 04:17 AM
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the movement your aligning yourself with ultimately diminishes the value of your fellow women. Women who make poor choices diminish their own value.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 08:47 PM
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I'll see myself out.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:16 AM
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didn't wan't to pull one of my teeth out on the first date. Can't quite put my finger on it... 50/50 chance that this is a red flag. I'm sometimes a bit of a pessimist.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:11 AM
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I appreciate that. You seem a good bloke yourself, and I'm impressed that your significant other reads material from TRP and RPW without any flipping. That introduction can be risky and could be met with some... resistance. I imagine we both found that risk worth taking. Tell you what, I'll pick up the beer tab.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/14 02:05 AM
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Attractive women generally tend not to "need" feminism or to embrace that culture to get a leg up in life. Feminists need rationalizations as to why they are unsuccessful, this can mean blaming men, blaming history, or blaming things like "lack of fat acceptance". The scope and intensity of what the whole feminist banner promotes is astounding. It all says "I need to be propped up, I'm fine the way I am, I am attractive and you need to understand why."
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 01:09 AM
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Already been contributing to that end
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 12:51 AM
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My LTR partner is a regular at RPW and an endorsed contributor. Yes, she has a very attractive face and body (dat ass). More importantly than raw looks, her behavioral traits make her EXCEEDINGLY preferable to me because she has a very quality character. She has self respect, she thinks about her actions, she is not materialistic, she understands and accepts theories floating around here and in the wider manosphere as wisdom lost in our modern era. Any time something strange comes up, even if sh…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/14 12:46 AM
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They know their value is low by virtue of their weight alone. It's like gaming a girl without having to try, she's hot for attention and physical contact, therefor she's revved up to snag you with supplicative sexuality.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 02:38 AM
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Absolutely agreed.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 02:20 AM
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Your mileage varies.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 02:12 AM
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I risk sounding crass: They fellate like a cure for cancer resides in your balls. They have their place until they start respecting themselves.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/14 12:26 AM
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You think in absolutes, and too simplistically.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 10:37 PM
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I've got mine. Up to others to get theirs.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 02:25 PM
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Every time.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:28 PM
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I feel like this may be the beginning of a very slippery slope. Nonsense concern over a nonsense premise. having life long good friends is very important in keeping a healthy perspective You do you. Everyone else will. a big betrayal on the image built around the character Fictional advertisements have unrealistic characters skewed by your perception of consistency that could THEN be seen as committing a "betrayal" to appeal to an audience other than you? Am I being too paranoid? Yes.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 10:15 AM
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Abrupt text game like this works on vapid whores. Enjoy them.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 10:06 AM
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Little/no reasoning. You know that's bullshit. You explained the reason. Lock your phone or stop lying to us. since I go down on her If you give without getting MORE, evaluate that. You're supposed to be the leader, she owes you more in the sexual arena than you owe her. My plan would be to refuse to go down on her, until she reciprocates Try indifference rather than scheming. Plans that have a jilted/disrespected woman as a contingency are rarely reliable. You fucked up and she's punishing you …
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 10:01 AM
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does she initiate sex? Inconsequential, is she ALWAYS receptive to sex? does she compliment my physical qualities? Inconsequential, do you KNOW your body is in order? is she proud to be with me in public or with friends and family? Two-thirds inconsequential, why are you around the friends and family of a woman when you are uncertain about her pride in you? You should be giving the pride and she should be feeding on that. Not easily, and not abruptly, but she takes her cues from you. does she lo…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 09:52 AM
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I agree, but there's a catch. Her value, her perception of her own value, is very individual. As is her judgment of you as a man. The feels can make you perceptively better than she is, even if it's not objectively true. I won't break it down, but my LTR thinks of me as superior in many/most ways, due to a perception that she will admit and has chimed in on within boards related to TRP. It doesn't matter to her if it's true or not, it's how she feels.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 09:41 AM
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I sent OPs post with slight edits to a feminist coworker. Going to be so good.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 09:38 AM
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I'll judge all I want. They're my values and my commitment.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:46 AM
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My mileage varies, but methods can be alternated and results can verify individual applicability.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:06 PM
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If you are not subject to legal binds of any kind by cohabitation where you live, you should be fine. Don't have kids if you don't want any strings.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 06:22 PM
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Mostly, when a girl complains, she just receives comments of "you're right he's unreasonable" which in turn only inflate the complainer's sense of importance. This why I play devil's advocate anytime someone tries to complain to me. I wasn't in their situation, don't have all the information, and am only getting (at most) half the story. In the interest of getting the complainer to think more, I assume they're wrong and speculate to that end.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/14 05:56 PM
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Leave the keys on your way out.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 04:24 PM
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I simply advocate a calibrated approach, and if you're in pursuit of an LTR, you should know how to feel out a situation from your general pick-up experiences. I don't entirely disagree with you, but it could be an issue (even if you cultivate sufficient attraction) if you appear as a blatant asshole to get her attention. If it has worked for you to use your general pick-up game full bore, and then calibrate after you acquire her attention, then that's fine. We're talking about a woman with self…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 04:16 PM
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You decide how devastated to be. Within 72 hours of my last LTR breakup (also 2.5 years), I had my first date. I allowed myself 24 hours to grieve and then it was time to make plans. I buckled down, redoubled my stoicism. There is no reason for hesitation or excess negative emotion in the face of pursuing your desires. Resting on your laurels or feeling sorry for yourself is masturbatory and should be minimized to the point of extinguishment. Do more and be more every day. If you allow the injur…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 03:43 PM
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10/10, would obtain again.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/14 03:36 PM
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The west truly must be a desert when it comes to decent girls. You're more right than you know. This is why TRP exists in part, it is a response to the Western climate and the decline in quality women. The solution for many is to simply extract what value they can from women without commitment. I consider myself a fairly proficient hunter, but I've always tended toward longer relationships with dedication and growth rather than hit it and quit it scenarios. I find the representation around TRP i…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 02:22 PM
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I've seen women in relationships engage in all sorts of unacceptable behaviors with other men under the justification that he's gay. I've seen stories of this as well, not that I've experienced it first hand. Rationalization: "You're gay, so it doesn't matter". I've seen second hand accounts and first hand accounts from homosexual men who come here and say the same. This justification is along the same lines sexually predatory women probably use on themselves with minors. "He's a boy, of course …
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 02:16 PM
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It's not necessarily about checking all the boxes, but having filter criteria. Knowing what to look for. Women who have all of these traits are indeed rare, but if you can find someone with enough, your leadership should bring other changes in her for mutual benefit. I'll cover this in future posts.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 07:55 AM
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My stone gavel has a velvet lined handle.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 01:37 AM
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If you must do to feel a being, you'll want to address the lowest common denominator mood disorders. Unfortunately, I can't help much there. You can read all the inspirational talk in the world, but a lot of it will be establishing routine, diet+exercise, possibly some supplements for the anxiety and depression (there are a good number of things to try for this), full immersion scenarios and good old fashioned pushing through the discomfort.
/r/askTRP03/01/14 01:27 AM
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You have a fairly general base of things here, but it seems you're basing your confidence externally and more importantly from moment to moment. If I don't clean promptly or take a break from self improvement for more indulgent or pointlessly entertaining pursuits, I don't feel my confidence slipping. It's been internalized for quite some time. I'd be curious to know specifically where you think you lack confidence. Your outline is good, but it may as well have been a list of things to act like …
/r/askTRP03/01/14 12:41 AM
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1.) Anticipate my needs and provide for them without request. 2.) Don't be afraid to break the demure and/or feminine appeal you have in private, even over text. If you're thinking about me sexually, indicate that. Build anticipation with me, always be approachable. 3.) Listen when I make requests or demands of you. Make sure you calm your emotions more for me than you do anyone else when I tell you to be calm, to center. It's never an insult, it's just prudence and my efforts should be calming …
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 10:13 PM
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I don't understand laziness, so I often underestimate it.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 06:27 PM
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Boiling water? Sounds too close to cooking for the truly independent ladies.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 06:20 PM
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Answer: HAHAHA!
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:43 PM
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You have to filter first for behavior, behavior is paramount. My definition of a unicorn doesn't include going down to bars on a Friday night, being receptive to men. The view of unicorns are skewed around here because of both the social climate in the US as well as where you can find (and what type of person can be found for) easy hookups. Unicorns are not strictly born, they have to be maintained. This means growing up in a healthy environment, being given a strong male presence they can admir…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/14 03:36 PM
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You do you, and be good. If someone hates a style you think suits you best, no need to compromise on it for someone you aren't committed to.
/r/askTRP02/01/14 06:11 AM
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Just remember that behavior is a more important factor if you seek commitment. Establishing harmony in a relationship is not done with makeup.
/r/askTRP02/01/14 05:59 AM
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I prefer variation, contrast, and a woman who drops two solid points in the face because she's not made up is a definite negative for me. I tend towards natural beauty and the occasional touch up for a night out is good to contrast my experience of said woman. The same applies with style, or revealing vs. more conservative outfits. I would always suggest more light on the makeup, and "good examples" I see in this thread are a little too thick with temporary attractiveness increases for my taste.…
/r/askTRP02/01/14 05:27 AM
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I have never cheated on him and never will I didn't say anything about cheating.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 03:39 AM
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No judgments. Just definitions, and quotes. I've had way more sex than considered rpw - what does my dh think? Nothing because I wasn't dumb enough go tell him. You don't make it sound inconsequential. You rationalize it now as being such, but you seem to have considered it a dumb move to be forthcoming.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 03:02 AM
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Lying by omission Also known as a continuing misrepresentation, a lie by omission occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. When the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service, the seller lies by omission. It can be compared to dissimulation.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 02:19 AM
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You are to own your mistakes, or you risk destroying what you built with your family. You are an idiot.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/14 01:49 AM
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If, as a portion here do, you subscribe to the idea that women are without love, honor, or value- there's not much anyone here can do to talk you out of your resentment. If you want fucks to not be hate fucks, you have to be selective first, and groom second. Everyone has imperfections, but if you find a girl without a strong sense of entitlement or materialism, that's an ideal base to start from and to see how well she'll fall in line behind your leadership. It doesn't matter if this is how you…
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:53 PM
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Steady on, gentlemen. We should be unified in informing and supporting any reasonable and individual goal men here may have for themselves. This is a community for men to share and to learn what it is they want and need to know with regard to sexual strategy, and it's a top notch resource. Discussing failures, successes, and observations has been crucial and rewarding for me. I pride this community for helping one another and being brutally honest both in how they feel, and how they think. I'll …
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 11:31 PM
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Do you maintain frame well on a consistent basis? Have you actually built a strong foundation? Are you recognized as the leader in the relationship, or does she still struggle with you to see who is steering your relation-ship? (I'll make no apologies for that pun) I need to know what gives you these off days, and how you're actually being brought down. Kneeling to stress and allowing it to damage your dynamic is irresponsible on your part. It can't always be helped, stress creeps in and complic…
/r/askTRP01/01/14 10:07 PM
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I fully intend to continue. I want a happy life for those who seek what I have obtained. Every reasonable goal of a man should be respected. From the withdrawal from the sexual market place as some MGTOW do, to plate spinning, to enduring relationships with a very promising woman. We should all be so lucky as to fulfill our life goals.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 08:21 AM
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Her identification with and reading on RPW made her cry. She finally had a community that reflected her values and understandings. I introduced her to the concept of TRP and before that, TRP concepts in conversation. When she seemed alright with it, I showed her RPW to read at her speed. I was not present to direct her, that's how certain I was about my decision.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 07:06 AM
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Im doing fine as my blue pill self should i still change to red? Watch her behaviors, and if you find things shifting into an area you think may compromise your interests or happiness, address as necessary. When you say blue pill, I hope you don't mean supplicating. If you supplicate too long, by the time you realize that there's a major problem, it may already be too late to address. The foundation will have been set. Read what you can from areas that make sense to you. If TRP makes sense with …
/r/askTRP01/01/14 03:36 AM
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"I want other men to fuck me" can't be dealt with amused mastery. Amused mastery shouldn't be used when there is any clear disrespect you're dealing with. Amused mastery is upbeat game. Disrespect should always be met with a decisive lack of tolerance for it.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 02:54 AM
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Basically he surgically removed her from his life. If examples like this were more common and talked about, we'd see much better behaviors. Too many put up with too much, and the result is a toxic climate in the SMP.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 02:36 AM
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It's my opinion that any man with cuckold tendencies has severe issues. It's my standard that any woman who puts a man into situations remotely like this should get bruises in her backside by sheer force of the door being slammed behind her. The suggestions in the log sicken me. The idea anyone should allow or enable this behavior is BEYOND words. There really is no better way to branch swing than cuckolding.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/14 02:13 AM
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I'll be following up with more posts in an LTR Game series, including some selection criteria and some other suggestions on the "where to" front. It's a difficult thing, but you don't need to find a perfect woman on the front end, you need to develop as a pair to see how "red pill" she actually can be. How a woman treats you or defers to you can be a WORLD of difference to how she has conducted herself before. Unicorns aren't strictly born, they're developed and maintained.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 08:52 PM
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No, but the ability to be socialized and the degree anyone is carried by it is due to their biology, it's still the root. Socialization doesn't transcend biology, it's just one or more orders more complex (like from physics to chemistry to biology). Each order still has all the constituent parts at work under its umbrella, the smaller order mechanics are just focused on less and less for a greater scope. I haven't looked through your exchange with the user I quoted and responded to, but I mainta…
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 06:46 PM
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I was addressing matters of emotion and behavior, referring to love and irrationality. This amounts to biology and socialization; what I termed "influences, conditions, and motivations". The ability to accept socialization is due to a persons biology, how one reacts to different stimuli is due both to their socialization and their biology.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 06:26 PM
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If you wish to stay in the abstract, that doesn't change the root. Believing in true love will not give you practical tools for success and can possibly mess with your expectations once you start to feel your emotions moving.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 06:12 PM
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There is nothing "transcending biology" at any time or for any reason. That's an important thing for everyone to keep in mind. Just because something seems special, or that people can act irrationally does not mean biology is transcended. Quite the opposite. It's exceedingly difficult to find all the influences, conditions, and motivations for every decision, but the root is always biology.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 05:28 PM
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Nothing specifically. True love as a concept is also a bit ludicrous. Love must be maintained by both parties as there are indeed preconditions and standards both parties hold. Respect and loyalty are more important than love, they are the base of that interpersonal pyramid, love is the capstone.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 05:19 PM
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Understanding how my digestive system works doesn't make eating dinner any less enjoyable. Willing ignorance in the mechanics of love, attraction, and stoking loyalty is bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 03:58 PM
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You won't always find clear admission that "The Wall" exists, but you'll certainly see it in behavior and lifestyle changes in women who realize it. The bitterness can creep in when validation from a former horde of men slows, or the average quality of the man validating them decreases.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 03:54 PM
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Congratulations, ladies. Look forward to the next year of contributions.
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/13 06:10 PM
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It's a common misconception that interpersonal leadership is like being in a sub/dom arrangement, but "less healthy"
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/13 02:12 PM
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Me too.
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/13 02:11 PM
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Check submitted tab on my profile.
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/13 03:48 AM
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I have a thread on maintaining frame in an LTR you could benefit from.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 11:19 PM
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Dana rants are best rants.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 10:49 PM
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I see tempest has adequately handled my thoughts on the matter in a separate conversation thread. A detailed response is not needed here. My effort was to get you thinking why you desire sexual dominance, and try only to keep it in that sexual sphere. The jollies you experience from men being aggressive and/or dominant can be rewarding in spheres that don't require a closed bedroom door. This is something this community recognizes in themselves, and suggests the vast majority of women would pref…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 10:03 PM
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Are you not suggesting to a community that promotes a relationship model that another model will suit them better? They promote a pervasive and solidly SOCIAL model. Not merely a sexual outlet for their core desires. You wish to be dominated in the bedroom, do you know why that's there, or the vast prevalence of the rape fantasy in women? The leadership dynamic plays directly into this nature, in the non-sexual moments. The core of each woman who desires this sort of thing (and I would argue, mo…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 07:03 AM
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I just think there are other ways to have the sort of relational dynamic you guys are looking for. This is different from curiosity. You are promoting against the communities structure and focused intent.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 06:41 AM
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http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/itsRADTASTICxx/graphics/Drop-1.gif
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 10:38 PM
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disregard their needs and their feelings. This is a risk of reflection in any relationship. If a woman feels like she needs not respect her partners needs and feelings through any means (behavior, society, peer pressure, etc), she is more inclined to do so, otherwise it takes effort to care and invest. Doing constructive things is often a good degree of work. I understand where the attitude comes from, but it's still kind of grating Yes, they're called stages of grief. A lot of what you see on T…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 10:26 PM
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It is... but she'll have to prove it. Nobody is asking otherwise in your own life, that's just soundly practical. People are reporting on their own lives and structures, and do not disagree with most TRP ideals (this is highly individualized, as are the members of TRP in what they adopt and find "useful"). It does not benefit the members here to dwell or pontificate on how they may have no honor, no love, no loyalty. It does benefit them by observing what TRP has to say about women, and seek to …
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 08:07 PM
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if its not true he's sure fooled me lol In this statement the benefit of having a strategy for relationship game and/or a leadership dynamic is made quite clear. Doesn't matter if he fooled her or she fooled herself. They are HAPPY and thriving interpersonally, even with dana's relative man-brain and robot heart.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 07:38 PM
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If you have concluded that it's not worth the effort, that's fine. Go your own way, but try to remember that there's a community of women who are furious with others for treating men as they do. Marginalizing them, abusing them, and taking them for granted. They've founded a community around the concept that the man in their life is priority over themselves, and seek to always honor that.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 02:27 AM
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This all comes down to the individual again. If women are free for sex, men are free to obtain them for sex. Nothing wrong with it. There are likely to be prostitutes and sluts forever. How society regards these individuals and how we educate our children and youth will be the big factor here.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 02:10 AM
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The "not tonight dear" is probably one of the more shamed things around these parts.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 01:17 AM
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Do not be ashamed to seek what you want in accordance with the law, and never be ashamed to embrace your masculinity. One thing I seek is to help my fellow men with not ending up in relationships where they're brow beaten or raked over the coals in any fashion. Where they take more responsibility for their personal flaws and bad decisions. Where, yes, they man up. I want them to man up in the pursuit of THEIR desires, not mine. This is why I appreciate TRP as a whole, I find it highly valuable.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 01:03 AM
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Admittedly rare. She is mid-20's and even has feminists in her life that have constantly shamed her for embracing her more feminine nature. She stood by the teachings her father, and her observations of the relationship between her parents. This resonated more than herd indoctrination techniques. "Go team women!" never appealed to her.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:35 AM
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Is the lack of consequences/repercussion making the women of today slaves to their hypergamous nature? In large part, I think this goes with less checks and balances than it used to. The loss of a number of social norms and institutions that used to keep women discouraged from being sluts, or acting irresponsibly is UNDENIABLY evident. Additionally, Feminism has encouraged irresponsibility and slut behavior, as has the law.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:24 AM
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Yes. I will qualify with the fact that respect is crucial to this. There are many degrees to the shrew. It may start softly, like not respecting your time. It could increase to badmouthing or nagging you, disrespect to other peers about you- even in front of you. The extreme of this disrespect results in the more major infractions. It is my job to ensure that misbehavior is not rewarded or tolerated. If enforced, and she is quite aware of it, it becomes SELF reinforcing. She respects you because…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:19 AM
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If so how has this manifested itself? You're well aware of feminism and its machinations. You're well aware of the dissolvable joke that marriage has been made into and that it's highly skewed to a woman's benefit. I'm certain within wider law that you're also aware of many court decisions that favor women over men nearly every time. We take responsibility, in part or in whole, away from women as a society. Feminism DRIVES THIS ACTIVELY. We give them every degree of choice without every degree o…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:01 AM
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Dude here. I recently killed a large spider that scattered a room full of ladies. I also enjoy violent video games. Safe outlets that the law does not seek to discourage you from with any sort of legal punishment. I'll bet your valiant murder of the arachnid assailant got you laid as well.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:56 PM
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She was raised under good influences, her father was a strong figure in her life that bestowed on her direction and discipline. Something MANY women lack in our climate over the last 20-30 years, leading to the young and newly adult generation you may be a little contentious over.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:39 PM
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Divorce is not appropriate when children are involved. This is not reflected well in our culture.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:29 PM
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"If I cheat it's my fault if she cheats it's still MY fault" She says this because she agrees with my philosophy on the matter that I detail in another post about maintaining frame.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:17 PM
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Right, hypergamy is always there, in the same way the killer inside me is always there. Having a killer inside does not make me a killer. Our society discourages men from killing in a lot of ways, it does not so much discourage some feminine natures, like hypergamy. You are well aware of many ways in which laws are at men's expense and often to women's benefit, this is a sad reality. But, quoting a natural law and assuming you have won the argument is not in good faith, and takes no account of y…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:12 PM
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When have you killed a rival for resources, mates, over a territorial dispute, etc- /u/PIBagent?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:58 PM
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always be looking for a better deal And this is a responsibility you don't seem to want to embrace. Yes, if you lose value, she is encouraged to leave by her nature. A few primary natures, (meaning we as men) are encouraged toward- to struggle/succeed, to kill, and to acquire sex. As a core part of your nature, can you tell me how much killing you've done lately?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:46 PM
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Fair enough. Good luck with your goals.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 04:51 PM
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There's an associated subreddit dedicated to women who aspire to be worth more than a fuck, and intend to synergize with their man.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 04:11 PM
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That can absolutely be valuable, yes. But you would not disclose doubts, fears, insecurity and the like directly to your crew.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 06:15 AM
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Need to establish solid respect, set boundaries, and diminish negative behaviors. Some users would go so far as to say a woman like the one detailed here needs a punch in the chops to put her on the straight and narrow, but I don't condone that. Either you obtain compliance and appropriate behavior from your intended woman very early on, in the foundation, or you risk the crazy running amok eventually. As an aside, though my statements apply nearly universally, this woman is obviously mentally u…
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 03:50 PM
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Unless you elect to be an activist, back a cause, and attempt change- you have only one responsibility. Understand all of the factors that could work against you, and try to circumvent them as best you can. You are not a victim unless you choose it.
/r/TheRedPill26/12/13 03:04 PM
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Acknowledged.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/13 03:51 AM
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Sounds like you want a volunteer opportunity.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/13 03:15 AM
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Probably for the same reason /r/purplepilldebate looked bad up until a week or so ago, they don't have someone with the skillset to improve it currently.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/13 12:51 AM
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Game recognize game, son. Obvious troll post is obvious.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/13 12:42 AM
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Classic neg. Obviously OP has game.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/13 12:33 AM
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True, that.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 09:11 AM
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I couldn't tell you. This is a trait I developed on my own, as a means to take life on more successfully. I actually don't fully understand how some people can get carrier away with emotion any longer. My intent from the outset was only to exhibit neutral and positive states, true stoicism is the indifference to pain and joy. My intent and strategy is simply to tamp down what helps nobody, and would hinder my efforts for success. I use the word stoicism because it's easy enough to understand for…
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 08:57 AM
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I feel queasy and all that hamster wheel spinning has given me vertigo. I think I need some ginger tea.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 05:46 AM
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You clearly understand my intent. Take all the issue you like with it. I don't find advantage in excuses or placing blame externally or internally. There is a difference between being at fault and being responsible. Do your best at all times and concentrate your thoughts and efforts on what you can do, and how you can prevent problems.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 07:35 PM
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It doesn't warrant any time dwelled on the matter. There is no point in looking for reasons to excuse yourself. If absolving yourself is your goal here, by all means, go ahead. It simply runs counter to the spirit of the point I am trying to make, and the motivation I am intending to provide.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 07:09 PM
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Acceptance of reality and a level head while you address newly risen circumstances is never unhealthy. I take responsibility for newly arisen circumstances by addressing the issues they present.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 01:23 PM
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You're not allowed to disapprove of women's choices, you are only allowed to provide for them, and accept all their flaws/wrongdoing without interference.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 02:30 AM
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I've gotten this one a couple of times. Needless to say it was some depraved nonsense they'd prefer not to be honest with anyone about.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 02:28 AM
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You take responsibility for things out of your control by addressing any circumstances with the most complete understanding and most effective solutions or compensations you can manage. You always do your best. The mindset is important, and that's why my posts are worded as strongly as they are. Nobody benefits from ideas like "not my fault" or "not my responsibility" if your happiness is on the line.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 11:51 PM
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With cheating you either misjudged her character propensity for betrayal, misjudged the conditions under which she would betray you, or you did not display enough value to her for the actions to be unthinkable. It is all your responsibility.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 11:45 PM
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You are to conduct yourself and your affairs with the understanding that you are the only party responsible. I see statements in this community about the capacity of women with regard to honor, maturity, and love. Those who believe women deficient in these areas should agree with me automatically. Those who don't agree with me, tell me what you have to lose from being the best, and most vigilant leader you can be? Where is the downside to taking full responsibility for your happiness and never r…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 10:23 PM
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If she fucks up, she's gone. And that's nobody's fault but her own. Yes, your decision to drop a woman is her misfortune, not her fault. You made a decision to drop her. Placing blame on her for circumstances within your influence, including beginning the relationship in the first place- perhaps with an unsuitable woman or with improper leadership, that does not take enough personal responsibility for my liking. This is why I addressed agency, honor, and love with regard to women. If you believe…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 07:56 PM
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A foundation fractured, decayed, or built poorly in the first place is a hard thing to contend with. Do your best, and hopefully you won't have to dismantle or abandon your current foundation to acquire the type of relationship you desire.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 06:44 PM
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Certainly can be. It is every mans responsibility to mitigate his disadvantages by knowing them and being smart about his choices. These are priorities for any man wishing to succeed.
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/13 12:55 AM
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I fancy myself a reasonable guy. I'm fairly laid back. I can be intimidating without trying and am quite large, so I don't ever get hassled by many people. I used to get in public fights through, at the very latest, middle school and probably fought for the last time ever with one of my brothers when I was 15. There have been some tense moments between then and now where I may have been forced to fight, but it's been well over a decade without a fight until a couple of months ago. A friend of mi…
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/13 09:34 PM
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blue pillers don't even need to accept that. Hooray. Everything is absolutely nebulous. Every roadblock is in place. Enjoy your circle jerk. OT: Giant robots aren't enough temptation for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 08:14 AM
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you need to demonstrate that they aren't parody. Impossible for me to do. the subreddit has no beliefs or positions. Simply anti-TRP. Yes, I know. Yes - people were getting annoyed that some users were straying from the parodying and satirising or TRP by parodying and satirising MR subreddits. My annoyance was with the same thing happening to RPW. Edit: Sounds cool but I'm not much of a gamer. Come on, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 08:03 AM
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But you haven't mentioned any roadblocks that you think exist. The parameters mean that there can be no accountability for anything ever said because: parody. I suggest that this doesn't apply to RPW, and even if I do cite examples, it will be fruitless because: parody. I recall a thread on TBP about a month ago focusing on how content was being posted from places like /r/AskMen and /r/MensRights and having bash fests that didn't center around TRP. This was simultaneously discouraged and encoura…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 07:47 AM
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Carrying the point further has several visible roadblocks. I made the response I did because I saw them, and disengaged. Also, do continue to construct more hypotheticals to explain your logic that use either racism or pedophilia, you've a flair for the dramatic and I like the cut of your jib.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 07:26 AM
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Finding an honorable man to care for you is part of this. You want commitment to be a theme for both of you. If you begin to consider it unfair to you personally to deny him sexual contact with younger women as you age together, you'll have to consider that as you go. There is much more you can do to keep a man committed than opening up the relationship. I know that some RPW's think this is a valid option, others would not want that for themselves. I, myself, as well as my partner, we don't ever…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/13 07:13 AM
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I think a persons expectations are very important - and I'm confused as to what mine should be after reading a lot of your posts. If your personal desire is monogamy, stand firm on that. Unless you stop caring about monogamy, you should not relent or make it up for discussion. You are more than allowed to have parameter standards for the structure in your relationship, it shows that you know what you want and you want someone who feels similarly.
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/13 07:04 AM
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So your point is, again, completely off-topic. Fair. If I dug up examples of individual users, I'd likely get the same return responses about individual users, even endorsed contributors/mods, being exceptions or satirizing. A really fantastic defense, I should say. Nobody has to take any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:57 AM
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Reasonable, and I could go dig up examples on comments toward RPW as a concept within TBP, but you're fully able to if you're interested in how they're treated within the context of a sub that's supposed to focus on overt misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:54 AM
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horrific comments about women being subhuman They do precisely this with RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:51 AM
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People on the internet who run a sub that is literally a joke banned you from their joke of a sub. I realize, and I also detected an agenda. My feelings are not hurt and had no misunderstanding. The reason that it's important to look at TRP's banning strategy is because they claim to be a no hold's barred, anything goes space. They have some hard limits, but they'll also wipe out what they consider to be subversive, and within that userbase, they widely consider feminism in its current incarnati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:11 AM
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So while yes, I am sorry that your relationship specifically was ridiculed, your thoughts / comments / opinions don't belong in TBP. My engagement was defensive, and the result serves to portray that there is a strategy behind the sub other than serving as a poke-the-wittle-alpha sub. We were most likely shut out because we're both happy people who have some common understandings to TRP, and that runs counter to the idea that the sub is filled with strictly vile people. Have you seen how needles…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 06:07 AM
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Thank you for the insight. I was unsure how that worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 05:32 AM
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It's a joke as a defense. Shaming and insults directed at people they just don't like the look of is common. If and when they can make valid points and claim victory, they always will. The difference is that the fall back is always "We are nothing but a circle jerk". I don't really care about satirizing general "alphaness", but to hate something they simply don't like is much different from ripping on TRP in general. Having my relationship ridiculed was almost always the point in which I approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 05:29 AM
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There is a difference between intending to incite hatred, and parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 01:00 AM
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Precisely the same occurs in TBP even if posters are completely upright in their presentation. Myself and /u/PhantomDream were banned, comments have been deleted, and subsequently we both had conversations with the mods on our individual bans. We were told that we were boring and that they like their "pets" to be more entertaining. I propose that this is done for precisely the same reason you are presenting me, which is to keep the "message" as clean as possible on TBP's side. By revoking our ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 12:32 AM
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I have a horse in this race so I'm staying reeaaal quiet.
/r/RedPillWomen19/12/13 05:25 AM
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If that's no doctrine, I don't know what is. Covergent thought and opinions, vocal majority, and/or common exposure to rhetoric and agreement with it. It is encouraged in the community to adopt what you agree with and what will help you succeed, and discard what you do not. For instance, negging or dread game- I haven't done it and I won't do it, even if others say it's successful- it's just very not me. There may be debates about little things here and there, but the basic premise is universall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 05:13 AM
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They're specifically designed to prey on people. Where does TRP prey on men? One of the most common themes is that nobody can make you happy, only you can. That you are fully responsible for the successes and failures in your life. They create a problem or find an already pervasive problem, then they offer the solution. As above, TRP encourages you to solve your own problems, and people share methods they have reached their own success, or speculate as to how you can reach your own. Problem: No …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 04:01 AM
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That's great, but it's really hard to get around the fact that TRP resembles religions and cults. Which you seem to not think of as a bad thing. By the way, the word "cult" has a negative connotation, but like 95% of humans belong to a cult, so I hope you don't take my accusations personally. Cults are quite human and 100% natural. My discussion has been on your definitions which you wrote at length. If it makes you feel better to think that it doesn't, go ahead, but for the vast majority of us …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/13 01:03 AM
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God=Jesus=Holy Spirit=Trinity This interpretation holds true for some sects, sure. In TRP, Alpha-ism is a method of achieving the goal and solving the problem, not the goal itself. This also depends on interpretation. It's put forth that internalizing leadership qualities (alpha behavior) is the goal, because success in many areas of your life flows through them (see TRP's partner sub /r/becomeaman/). It can be seen as a method and the goal itself (along with self definitions of what "success" m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 11:58 PM
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But neither sexism nor privilege seek to achieve feminism's goal of equality. Does the idea of God/Satan seek to achieve Christianities goals? There's another duality, equality/inequality. I'd argue that legal equality has been achieved for quite some time. There has to be a perception of that duality still, otherwise feminism would not be as needed and their institutions or degrees would no longer be nearly as relevant. As a "cult", it wishes to remain relevant. "Follow the way of alpha and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 10:11 PM
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How can you disagree over such a simple concept? It's difficult for me to fathom how you cannot see the polarity in their outline, as it seems to be difficult for you to recognize that we can disagree. The polarity is plain, benefits to men are privilege, benefits to women are sexist. Both sides of this duality paint women as victims. Would you say alpha is better and beta is worse, when it comes to strategy and lifestyle? If so, they oppose each other. Edit: This depends on the individual strat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 09:26 PM
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Those aren't two things that oppose each other. We disagree, but- Neither is alpha/beta. They're descriptors for male behavior in different mating strategies. One is as a leader, the other is as an equal or a follower. Beta characteristics would be better thought of as "not leadership/higher status" rather than "wrong". In fact, it's commonly suggested in TRP that you exhibit a blend of alpha and beta characteristics if you are pursuing an LTR. Making sure that your mate undeniably recognizes yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 08:57 PM
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The benefits bestowed upon me or a man by an institution, society, or by individuals based on my sex are termed privilege. The benefits bestowed upon women by an institution, society, or by individuals based on their sex are termed sexism. This is a duality. If by their own definitions that there is no female privilege, and instead it is always sexism by definition, they've given you their doctrine duality. The difference is, they have defined things in such a way that they're not on the "bad" s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 08:31 PM
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What's their alpha/beta that plays a central role in the ideology? Privilege/sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 07:59 PM
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Feminism is broad. This seems sexist. Some groups that call themselves feminists are not cults. Some groups that call themselves feminists are cults. You'd have to go through them individually. I'd largely say they fit all your criteria. But, you're right, it's an extremely broad collection of ideologies, philosophies, cults, whatever you want to call them individually if you were to serially classify them. One could say an equality pursuit in general is utopian, and anyone pursuing an ideal of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 07:35 PM
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But I only use my experiences, and experiences from close friends and family. I suppose a decentralized approach to understanding subjective reality is somehow wrong. I wonder why people write for advice in places like /r/sex or /r/relationships, are all of these people doing something wrong by seeking advice outside their immediate friends and family? Right, but there are an infinite number of methods. There's no empirical approach to evaluating them. We all do our best in learning and doing wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 06:47 PM
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Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 06:22 PM
1

Right, but it's all subjective. It's all anecdotal. There's no attempt to quantify anything. Have you quantified everything in your pursuit of sex, love, success, happiness, and relationships? All our experiences in these areas is entirely anecdotal. There's no attempt to assess different methods. Many find TRP, and the manosphere in general, as a reassessment of their prior methods. It's overwhelmingly common within the community. Cult might be a better word You would like to bestow negative de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 05:55 PM
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people mock TRP advice, because it's so easy to see it all going horribly wrong. I can understand why. If the only thing one does is read the "sixteen commandments" and attempts no subjective understanding of the woman you want, no calibration, no taking into account her own experiences and vulnerabilities- it's bound to create some problems. There's a lot of responsibility. The advice is also generally counter-cultural to the common narrative floating about. Going at this line any further would…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 05:24 PM
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It doesn't matter where she comes from with her insults, it's still hypocritical. I don't see where she insulted anyone. If you say my judgments are based on misinformation, couldn't I just as easily say you are misinformed about women at large? You think slutty women are gross, I think they're great. I think RPW are dull, you think they're great. I fail to see the problem here. Here you've outlined a difference of opinion and preference, not misinformation. You conflated both misinformation and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 05:11 PM
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"Logic" implies that they're using proper reasoning. I would contend that they're not using good reasoning. In fact, a casual observer would find that TRP is chock-full of logical fallacies. The subjective nature of it has to do with experience, constructing logical frameworks to better understand your experience, and experimenting in an attempt to circumvent the problems you have had in the past. What does not assist you in success is discarded. If there are fallacies, if something is damaging …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:59 PM
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Your observations were on happy old couples, as you stated. This is a general observation, and when I asked what would harm the acquisition of that goal for RPW, you went back to a personal frame of reference. That's fine, but as you were seeming to speak generally, I was responding with a general inquiry. I won't judge or cite you on your past posts, but do you not think some of your preferences could paint you as atypical?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:49 PM
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it would certainly be no worse than the insults TRP throws at women at large on a daily basis, which you said you didn't mind. Because she agrees when TRP proposes that certain behaviors or tendencies are actually damaging to the self, society, relationships, etc. It's not a place of hate she comes from when she agrees, it's a place of caution and personal understanding. So, it's cool if those slutty "westernized" women are insulted, but the second you are it's a problem? Your statements on her …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:41 PM
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dread game, 2/3, aloofness; all seem very relationship sabotaging to me. Different women will have different needs and responses to strategies and the extent of those strategies. Women who are happiest submitting interpersonally need different degrees of dominance to get them to relent, and trust. many of them have strong, determined women and laid back men. I understand your observations. You have not told me your criticism on how an RPW is not equipping herself for romantic success and happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:20 PM
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If that is the only thing RPW suggests, to defer to your partner, it is still not something I'm interested in as a partner. This is a valid opinion, because it's about you and your desires for your own life. Previously, you were not as self-focused in your statements. My question from a previous comment was still not addressed, can you provide comment on the following: What in their intent do you find negative behavior for a stable and fulfilling relationship- the chance to reach the happy old c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:00 PM
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Your definition terms a general group consensus with individuation as religious. If you are making assumptions made through experience, logic, and experimentation analogous with religion, then you could term just about anything religious that's on a social level that doesn't have explicit scientific backing. I would term it much more a philosophy than a religion, and I'm uncertain how you would find that inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:27 PM
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It's a body of knowledge and subjective opinions. When you receive subjective opinion from your friends or communities you frequent, do you think of any of that as religious in nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:38 PM
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It's not a frame I am applying by impression, it's the essence of their mission statement and strategy for happiness and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 04:09 AM
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This seems like an intentional misrepresentation to me. They're more diverse than you seem to understand. The essence of it is doing all you can to make your partner happy, maintain femininity, to work on oneself to not just maintain but increase your value to your partner, and to have a relationship structure where the man is the leader. To have defined, recognized, and embraced gender roles because both parties wish it. This does not by necessity make the woman a home wife, yes man, or daughte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:55 AM
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What would you not be able to deal with, exactly? What in their intent do you find negative behavior for a stable and fulfilling relationship- the chance to reach the happy old couple stage together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:37 AM
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How do you stack this when you include /r/RedPillWomen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:26 AM
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What can users take on faith, What makes sense to the individual or provides one an understanding that they can utilize to acquire what it is they want. Some of these opinions you would consider sexist or dehumanizing to women. and when should they expect evidence instead? When it's available. This does not mean that a persons experience is discarded, it's what they have. At no point should any individual discard the lessons they've garnered through success and failure. They live a subjective ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 03:04 AM
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Scientology is a textbook cult that seeks to build power for the more senior members. TRP is a collection of individuals with varying opinions and experiences with sex, women, dating, etc. TRP is a community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:26 AM
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If you experience one or more devastating failures/losses, you could begin to consider other methods. This is how the majority happens to find TRP, and/or identify with propositions made by its user base.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:16 AM
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The majority of advice in TRP is applicable to every man regardless of status, or is for men who are not already in a relationship. It's also generally not advised to get into relationships, and instead to experiment with methods to find a combination that results in greater success without being tied down, if sexual success is your only goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 02:11 AM
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I find its much more effective if you have adopted an intended structure from the outset. If one attempts to rebuild the foundation of an ongoing relationship, that's much more difficult and jarring, especially if one attempts these changes abruptly and covertly. Overcorrection can also be damaging to desired goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 01:45 AM
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stroke his hair and call him 'alpha'. She knows how I like it.
/r/askTRP17/12/13 09:03 PM
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I'll expect it regardless. It's my partners duty to please me, and if my partner does not embrace that idea, they won't remain my partner for long. Edit: Also, I've encountered a number of women that are uncomfortable with the idea. If they're being sexually satisfied by your other methods, cunnilingus is unnecessary.
/r/askTRP17/12/13 06:47 PM
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Dibs on Supreme High Chancellor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:29 AM
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Then tell me a third (or more) option(s) that covers the circumstance.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/13 05:36 PM
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Then tell me a third (or more) option(s) that covers the circumstance.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 03:37 AM
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No, that's not how it works. It's either dysfunction or your value isn't high enough in her eyes to stoke her fire. Simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 03:11 AM
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If she has difficulty with PIV orgasms she's either dysfunctional or she's just not that into you and your methods.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 12:43 AM
1

My inclination is to state that it should never be necessary, and in my relation if it ever does seem to be a positive step, I would reconsider the relationship entirely. I am disinclined to hand out physical punishment.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 10:53 PM
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Have to calibrate, not everything works on everyone the same way. Respect works much more thoroughly in my experience than simply charging their emotions to extremes, that's how you start to create cravings.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 12:55 AM
6

You have to turn your unicorn into your own slut. A one man slut.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 12:44 AM
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I ended up here when someone told me it was amazing that I took tragedy as well as I did, and didn't turn out like those Red Pill guys. Curiosity handled the rest. This is an important and unique place, and everyone is individually responsible for what they absorb, apply, and teach others. It's God dammed fantastic. I appreciate the hell out of what is being done here on the whole.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/13 12:33 AM
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From your post, it seems like your behavior/attitude may need your focus more than your body. Even when I was chubby, I never failed in obtaining sex or generating interest with women. They weren't the caliber I would prefer for myself ultimately, but they were commensurate with (or slightly better than) what I brought to the table.
/r/askTRP10/12/13 01:49 AM
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Well put. I agree. Acceptance of the state of society and male/female relations is something often promoted, and is a valuable asset when compared with the alternatives, like bitterness and anger. TRP sees plenty of the latter, but urges subscribes toward the former on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/13 01:39 AM
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your version of honor sounds closer to "obedience" than "integrity" You're reading what I defined as the less "me" opinion. This is not my version. Edit: Unless I'm misunderstanding you. Obedience to personal guidelines and edicts you find important and relevant, yes, I suppose I do think obedience is important to a concept of honor. But you yourself choose what it is you must obey as far as standards, practices, arrangements, people, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 11:54 PM
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I don't subscribe to that understanding. I won't deny holding some "sexist" views that I keep to myself, but I do think that women can be honorable. If we wanted instead to fit that into a less subjectively "me" opinion and instead in a strict TRP perspective and assume that they are correct in their assertion, it would be my responsibility to ensure a woman I have claimed for my own is compelled to act honorably. I would have to imbue her with the proper degree of incentive for it to be unthink…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 11:37 PM
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There's a difference in not feeling a duty towards suffering that you had absolutely nothing to do with and not feeling duty towards something that was partly your fault. I am putting things into this perspective because you seem to want to fit the concept of honor as objective, absolute, and in a single, more appropriate word- altruism. I have related the two scenarios because you want to make honor into something it's not. Honor works with guidelines, edicts. Unless you have a recognized and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 11:12 PM
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I don't think so. I was referencing a dictionary for the definition, taking it as literally as possible so I wouldn't inject my own feelings into it. Is it honorable that you may have money in excess of what you need to sustain basic life needs instead of sending it all off to people who are starving, in need of medicine, homeless, etc? Would you term keeping excess funds for yourself to be dishonor? How do you justify not going out of your way to care for all the needs of others? If you want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 08:58 PM
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If that's how you want to view it, but you are speaking with regard to how you think and feel personally. It's an interpretation. Honor is a personal orientation unless we're addressing codes of conduct within an organization or clear tradition. I agree that I could find the act dishonorable because my boundaries are set that way. That doesn't mean my personal ethical construct decides for all others what is and is not "honorable". My barometer does not apply to everyone. You are under no obliga…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 07:53 PM
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Honor is in line principally with personal ethics. I would not elect to dishonor myself by making choices to help someone betray another person, but that's entirely my personal ethic and a definition of what I consider honorable. I am offered no external incentive to honor others' personal arrangements. Pursuing someone who has a personal arrangement for monogamy is not dishonorable on its face. It may be bad form in my eyes, but that's because I wouldn't elect it for myself. My stance does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 05:58 PM
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Personal ethics aside, there is no incentive for a third party to respect private agreements. People will knowingly hurt or hinder others for personal benefit, it's promoted in our culture through a number of means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 04:57 PM
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It's less difficult if the dynamic is actually agreed upon and discussed. Leading implicitly works, but not having your leadership consciously acknowledged by your partner can lead to more turbulents over a long term. I have had actual discussions about the leadership dynamic with my partner, and even though I lead implicitly at first, I am now leading with open acknowledgment from her end. She also partakes in TRP and RPW which I find has been very important and helpful for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/13 03:44 PM
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Confirmed.
/r/askTRP09/12/13 03:17 PM
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In extraordinarily rare circumstances I will elect to make personal sleights. You are either generally dim or not very well read on the subject.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/13 04:53 AM
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The foundation has been poisoned, it has rotted and then you set fire to it unintentionally with your nuking of the hamster. I don't care about her actions, you allowed all of this by being lazy. You must take 100% responsibility for what you care about. You must maintain her state. If she respected you without rebellion, she never would have hit you this far in. If she hurt your thumb you don't frame yourself a victim or describe the extent of the injury, you course correct and let her know tha…
/r/askTRP01/12/13 12:25 AM
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"the voting thing is a semi joke, not that i think almost anyone should be allowed to vote or particularly value democracy"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 12:53 PM
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I support your supposition.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/13 11:03 AM
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I will, henceforth, pretend that my partner does not exist. I hope this works out.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/13 10:08 AM
2

Disengagement is your best defense.
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/13 07:43 AM
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Honestly, I think anyone is capable of cheating, it's more of a function of circumstance than some kind of inherent superiority. Very correct. I would insert that the primary ingredient is happiness with their relationship status. The trick is to avoid (or remove yourself from) the situations where you would be tempted to do so. As an individual trying to avoid another persons fallout, yes. I think an immediate HR report would be a little too aggressive in this particular situation, though if I …
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/13 07:38 AM
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You've got it totally straight here, and a good head on your (no doubt) impossibly desirable shoulders. All the best to you. I'd be willing to have longer discussions in private if you like. I've had to play this game for about four years consecutively now.
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/13 07:18 AM
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You: One thing I've always wondered is why don't red pillers just date children? Is it simply because it's illegal? Me: Can't speak for all, but my preference is 23-26 You: It's just that the "traditional" set up seems to involve treating women like children, so I figure why not just cut out the middle man? Me: I'm having difficult identifying why submission to interpersonal leadership makes one a child. You: It's more the whole reprimanding an adult thing. Do you sometimes ground her if she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 07:11 AM
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If you date older people because they're more mature and satisfy other requirements of a relationship, then say so. You framed the discussion with a loaded question. I did not engage. child-like qualities I will quote myself when I formed a response to you. Me I'm having difficult identifying why submission to interpersonal leadership makes one a child. Submission is not child like, neither sexual nor social. You responded with your age preferences. If you discard age norms and my stated disincl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 07:08 AM
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Especially the /eyeroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 06:36 AM
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Let me get this straight: Not having an answer means you have an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 06:07 AM
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This does not bypass that you made a conclusion with no evidence other than my lack of desire to engage a question I found both loaded and unconstructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 06:02 AM
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Refusal to engage with your questions is in itself a conclusion. That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:53 AM
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Yes, you said you had an age preference for women in their 20s but I wasn't asking about age preferences. Age implies maturity. There is a spectrum each individual falls within, yes, but stating that should have implied a socially standard (at the very least) maturity level to you immediately. Your conclusions, even if I state an age range is "If you don't state specifics about your preferences with your stated range, I have to assume you desire minors" I was asking if you enjoyed taking on a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:45 AM
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You said to me: l want a relationship with an adult, you want to date children without being arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 05:03 AM
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Whether they were intended as jokes or not doesn't change the fact that you couldn't (or wouldn't) answer the questions I was putting to you. Does it really need to be said? Age preference is 23-26, as I'd stated. I do not desire children. I've dated down to 18 within the last several years and they're too young for me, even as legal adults, which dismisses minors entirely. Your angle is intended to aggravate and not to have any constructive discourse. I also do not desire to kill, rape, steal, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 04:54 AM
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The guy was shitting himself trying to come up with an explanation other than legal reasons why he wouldn't want to date a child and couldn't do so. As for shitting myself, I encourage anyone who sees this to review the conversation. The post where I used the word "reprimand" was absolutely intended as a joke, which is why I laughed and said it was planned in advance. as you can see below: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/1r5ni1/i_have_more_faith_in_a_man_being_able_to_go_from/cdk1xn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/13 04:19 AM
5

Unicorns exist, but they must be maintained.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 10:23 PM
2

You and I have precisely the same orientation here. I've encountered situations like this. My demeanor is usually a bit flat and professional at work, but I also come off as charming and humorous when trying to relate to people or to accept their attempts at small talk. This can dynamically cause me problems, because I'm displaying value. However, I don't want to intentionally damage my working reputation interpersonally just to put off female interest. I do not share any personal details with a…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/13 06:28 PM
2

This is not a good strategy. These women are already attracted to him, for whatever list of reasons, including their own unhappiness with their relationship status. The only effective means I know of is to starve the beast. No attention given outside professional needs. Friend-zoning himself would seem like a workable idea, or it would seem like he is emotionally available, or manipulable. If this does happen, this would result in escalation of pursuit with increased hope of acquiring what they …
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/13 06:12 PM
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I can understand the attempt on the part of the author. Successful LTR's often benefit from a few beta traits in a male, for stability.
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/13 04:44 PM
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I've seen examples of both from individuals who claim to be feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 06:55 PM
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I am not equipped to be certain, but I'm quite inclined to agree with you. Good luck finding yours, if that's your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 06:44 PM
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You are discarding evidence in how hormones affect decision making and personality. If you have had these discussions, I would be interested in links or comment threads you can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 04:05 AM
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That was an attempt at humor. I will remember not to try it with you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 03:02 AM
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So you don't actually know if alphabetmod is alpha or just faking it? Never met him. That doesn't answer my question nor does it refute my argument. You have no basis for your assumptions other than your own assumptions. English, as a language that evolves, diversifies over time. New words are created and popularized to put a concept, object, or act into a succinct, conversationally efficient form. Old words can also take on new and additional meanings. My attempt was to give you my best, and br…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 02:54 AM
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I am referring to psychology and NOT biology I assume that means biology has no affect on psychology in your view. Doesn't make much sense to me. sex hormones Sex hormones are not the only difference between men and women. As for the rest, not very constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/13 01:31 AM
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You think it's reasonable to assume that sexual dimorphism ceases at the neck, and is purely focused on the body and not the mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 11:46 PM
3

Modesty, perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 08:12 PM
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What you quoted is an expression (a social technique) intended to convey modesty. I on the other hand am referring to the thought process behind associating yourself with the term "alpha" at all. Couldn't actually be modest, but let's continue. He says there are alpha traits then lists examples of such traits. He then says being "alpha" not "being perceived as an alpha". When I asked her later why she called me first instead of 911 she said that she was scared and that she knew that I would know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 08:07 PM
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Seems to be a common mind set, sadly. I've gotten this sort of shaming from several sources that disapprove of interpersonal leadership structures purely as a concept. I'd speculate as to the reason why, but that wouldn't be constructive, nor well received.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 06:38 PM
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Wouldn't be responsible for that regardless. You're basically just trying to be a jerk with this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 05:30 PM
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You: If they were they wouldn't need to call themselves alphas. alphabetmod: The word sounds cringey to me when I'm talking about myself lol, but there ya go. I see no ego inflation there. He says it's an example of him being alpha. Being regarded as an alpha. Important distinction. I have been honest and helpful with them in the past. Good. That doesn't mean I need to make up a word to claim that I belong to some special group in society. Alpha is shorthand, essentially. I'll be very simplistic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 05:20 PM
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Biological dual mating strategy does not mean that every woman is helpless to her urges. Neither is every man. I find the "absolute" conclusions TRP makes in some areas are too simple. Generalizations can inform, they try to aggregate understandings, but they're as applicable as stereotypes. Basis in observation, but not absolute. Over and above, and maybe I'm a romantic in this sense, "Unicorns" in the TRP definition do exist. However, they are not at all common in my experience. “We are, each …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 04:28 PM
3

I don't know how to apply makeup or dress myself. Crucial if you want to hit "above your level" and sustain it. Truth be told the guys I've ended up with have been too "pretty" for my own taste Beards, in my experience, fix this. In Europe, a male not being clean-cut and in good shape is usually a sign of being incapable of caring for oneself. This seems strange to me. Everyone who doesn't "keep up" with appropriate hygiene has mental issues? I've never heard that sort of frame for laziness. I k…
/r/RedPillWomen25/11/13 04:18 PM
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This makes me wonder on if you've been shooting above your attractiveness level, or if you're unattractive. You're here because you want tools to keep a man, but if you're saying you've been left many times before, I should ask why you think that is.
/r/RedPillWomen25/11/13 02:55 PM
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Having an orientation that appreciates family, or children, may not be the most alpha of traits, but that does not work as a binary in switching ones "status". The alpha you see touted in TRP as some suave, successful, fit, seducing uber-incubus is amoral. I would say that deciding to raise your child is a moral+ even if it's an alpha-, a net benefit especially in the eyes of a woman with a desire for a family of her own, or a stable partner. If raising the child is what the otherwise alpha male…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 07:32 AM
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Good luck with your ass pain. I understand there are prescriptions for that sort of thing.
/r/RedPillWomen23/11/13 07:53 PM
4

In that contest, my money would be on /u/danabanana9 every single time.
/r/RedPillWomen20/11/13 05:14 PM
1

I can imagine this could come up with the whole transactional exchange approach between a man and a woman. You bet your finances and freedom, and she relents and obeys. I'd really need to see context on this. If they addressed token resistance, or that no's are negotiable (by escalating, or trying to get your wife excited), that is also different from spousal rape. I'd need to see some context for this, but if it's as dire as you paint, I absolutely, categorically do not condone this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 04:06 PM
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attracted to sociopaths. They can and do exhibit extremes of alpha behavior. As for them being attracted to alphas, that may be true Alright, tied to above as well. but as red pillers told me in another thread, there is no set definition of alpha - it can mean whatever you want it to mean. So the claim becomes meaningless and unfalsifiable. An alpha does what it is he wants, yes. An alpha is not every trait you can throw at it in an attempt to paint something an alpha or make every nook and cran…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 04:03 PM
1

spousal rape You mean the "fake it until you make it" or "push through and you'll feel better about it" approach. What are you specifying with this phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 04:31 AM
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You're telling me that there is no evidence for a tendency in women being attracted to men with confidence? Decisiveness? Accomplishment? Skills? Resources? Stoicism? Ambition? Power? Leadership? Status?- real (or perceived) recognition from others either locally like within the same workplace, social circle, or from a wider segment of society (social proof)? These can all be traits of an alpha archetype. Tell me you're absolutely joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 04:25 AM
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Whenever she pipes up, I make sure to pipe her back down.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/13 07:15 PM
1

Posting to TRP? Instead of making me my cheesecake? Bitch, please.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/13 07:12 PM
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I appreciate this. As for the "why" for both sexes, I think they get angry for different reasons, they feel different things in response to rejection and I find it to be a trend for each. I will leave my admittedly biased speculations out of this, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 06:10 PM
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That's another thing heavily ingrained into the community, not caring what people think of them individually or as a collective of chest-thumpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:23 PM
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To come at it from "their" perspective, this would be addressed by enforcing a structure, having rules and boundaries, and displaying consistent value and support for your partner. Establishing agreed roles and providing for one another's needs. Being the defined and recognized leader, and never being afraid to walk away if the structure is not followed sufficiently. Also, not for a single moment being a doormat or enduring unnecessary emotional outbursts. Sociopaths are a type of "alpha", and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:03 PM
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But nobody is claiming that every single individual red piller is evil. I try and look at behavior, and question how one can become a form of "evil" that you may recognize. I have been pretty shocked reading what major proponents of feminism have said about men as well. Fairly dehumanizing things about how our society can be stable once we reduce the male population to %10 of its current value, or how rape is the process by which all men oppress all women. This shock occurs to me with many relig…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 02:18 PM
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She'll doubtlessly answer for herself, but I just want to inject this. Surely you understand that RPW are looking universally for a benevolent, well adjusted alpha that is ideal for being the head of a family environment. This precludes rapists and deleterious misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 08:13 AM
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She's not very combative. Bitter or angry men will exhibit those traits, I see a lot of them going through stages of grief, on their own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 07:46 AM
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I criticise red pill on a number of major factors: the beliefs contained in "required readings", the philosophies outlined in "Introduction to red pill", the beliefs of the mods, the beliefs of the "endorsed contributors", the beliefs of members that receive large amounts of upvotes, and beliefs which I am told by every red piller is a part of TRP. Then I suppose even if I self identify with what is recognizably the core tenants, I don't fit the beliefs of all those people as an aggregate. Bitte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 07:37 AM
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This is a misunderstanding I have come across. What you disagree with are individual opinions or the jerks who tout them. I'll repost the two, actual base tenants from where I detailed this previously. Anything in excess of these two points is opinion, regardless if people yell biotruth at you. *TheRedPill places responsibility first on one as a man, and encourages self improvement in all areas of his life. This can be for traits like confidence, fitness, success in a career, skill building, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 07:07 AM
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having required reading which suggest that women are mentally retarded. Wait, they're not? But... it's required reading and I uncritically accept the recommendations others make for me. It's on the sidebar and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 06:58 AM
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This is why I enjoy a man who has a more feminine temperament. So that when rejection comes, he is elegant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:40 AM
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Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 05:38 AM
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As a stunningly, gloriously attractive person myself, I'm glad that I'm tall, buff, have many years of martial arts training and always carry deadly self defense weaponry. Otherwise, the pressure may be too much to handle. As it stands, I don't have too much fear of dire fallout from having to turn someone down when they approach my unimaginable glory. This is why we can't have nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 04:30 AM
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I'm personally glad this sub, and its subscribers, are who they are. Each is reasonable or interested enough to (ideally, but not always) contribute constructively to the discussion of some fairly complex topics, as well as heated personal opinions. I do find extremists on either side to be fairly distasteful, and I have felt the sort of scorn and judgment /u/PhantomDream09 talks about in her post by identifying with the core tenants of Redpill philosophy. BUT, as a bold, self absorbed, dark tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 03:20 AM
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My understanding is if you contain it to a single large feasting period over a period of a few hours (or, in my case, sometimes just half an hour because when I see a plate of food, I attack visciously), the more you can cut body fat by staying in a fasted, or ketogenic state, longer. Results will be more swift with weight loss if you condense meals further.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 07:28 PM
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During the week, I skip all breakfasts and lunches and may only have about 100 calories if hunger becomes too severe, but this rarely happens. I eat very big dinners to make sure I sleep well and have fuel to repair muscles. I've been enjoying quite a lot of success with this combined with very strict low carb eating. The diet timing on what I do is described as the "Warrior Diet". I would recommend it to anyone with a respectable degree of self control.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/13 07:19 PM
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Believing that your ideology is the best way for the overwhelming majority of people, and that those who reject it are simply "outliers," is more or less asserting that you way is the only way to a successful relationship. I hadn't said that, but I do think that a majority of men (80:20) would benefit from focusing on self improvement and attempts to educate themselves as well as experimentation in the pursuit of their goals with women. Part of that is looking to who else has had success, and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 06:08 PM
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Why do you think your anecdotal evidence trumps anyone else's anecdotal evidence? I don't, but please tell me where you've disagreed with me, or where things don't stack for you. If I am in error, do let me know. Do you really think the Red Pill comes from a strictly objectively observational perspective, and merely makes totally legitimate, non-biased observations on gender relations? Ideally, yes. It's not always the reality, but the tenants are clear. What you disagree with are individual opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 05:27 PM
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As long as it would lift your childless old lady heart to do so.
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/13 04:40 PM
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Ideal.
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/13 04:33 PM
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Now, now. Let's not wish ill on others, especially those who are already ill.
/r/RedPillWomen18/11/13 04:25 PM
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And if that's what they want in a group, fine. But own it. Accept that it's not based in science or the real world and that you're seeking an echochamber that will repeat how evil Lucy was in 6th grade for turning you down. Don't pretend there's any sort of introspection or self-analysis because I've seen far too much evidence to the contrary. Here are some facts. If you review my post history, you'll see no shortage of reasonable discussion, or attempts to get others to perform some introspecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 01:49 AM
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Yes, you said as much in your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 11:48 PM
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There was a little confusion, but I just repeated the facts of your statements. I see where the two of you talked on different levels here given that you put fat in with other traits you actually do pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 11:36 PM
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You're proud about being fat? Did I say this somewhere? Yes, you stated you are very happy with yourself. You also stated you are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 10:20 PM
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I don't see how you can when in your own sidebar you have an article about how women are the most mature teenager in the house. I've seen plenty of examples of this in my life. I'm sure you have too. If this is assumed true, I would put it, again, at 80:20 rather than an absolute. Immaturity is not strictly a female phenomenon, however. Regardless, I don't treat my girlfriend like a teenager, I treat her like my right hand woman, my numbah one. She can be quite emotional, as I have seen be a mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 10:05 PM
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http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/desserts/r/lcarbcheesecake.htm Also, review at bottom is VERY relevant to item 2 in OP's post.
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/13 08:25 PM
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As a one off, let me just say that power struggles can vaporize a relationship. But, separately, TRP doesn't preach or proselytize, especially not in the "real world" where they would be judged by those with a mindset more skewed toward the norm. TRP self improvement aside, it describes and outlines human nature, as well as what is true in an overall sense (I rely on the good old 80:20 ratio). It recognizes that men and women are NOT equal, they are different. We're built differently not just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 08:17 PM
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Now I'm furious. Where's MY cheesecake?
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/13 07:55 PM
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Are you happy with your relationship? Are you happy with yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 07:44 PM
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I would cut ties immediately, myself. That is a bias on my part against children and wasted time for me. But, it depends on if you care about this woman finding or establishing a positive male influence in the child's life. A separate concern is that mothers can be a bit more vicious about being spurned if she emotionally comes to idealize "changing your mind" about commitment and step-fatherhood. It's possible that the more she wants you as a desirable male on any level, the more she'll rationa…
/r/askTRP15/11/13 01:15 AM
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Should I bring titles, exclusivity up? Only if it's important to you to have them, or if you want to acquire exclusivity. I was bold with my last attempt, I literally told my current girlfriend (something along the lines of) "You're mine now. There is no one else for you.". I only did this because I knew she wanted it, and I did as well. She's submissive and generally listens to me. Good. This means she has a foundation that is easier to work with. This also means the same was likely for prior p…
/r/askTRP12/11/13 04:11 AM
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not sure what the fuck you are saying men should do. To seek what you want, optimize yourself for your own benefit, and tp safely acquire what you want with your currently optimized self giving you maximum probability of success. I should walk though all the landmines of the SMP, take all the risks, and be a punching bag for abuse, because a NAWALT might be out there? Only if you find the risks worth the potential reward. If the SMP is entirely not worth it for you, if the acquisition of a partn…
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/13 10:27 PM
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On an average of 1.3 times during the weekdays, about a full point higher on weekends.
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/13 05:42 PM
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So basically... there is a mythical NAWALT out there like you, and I must learn "game" and jump through 500 hoops for some mediocre sex and feminine companionship. No. You must do what it is you desire for your life. If you do not desire feminine companionship beyond using a body as a masturbatory toy, then that's the "game" skillset you want to develop. Lets see the metric ton of bullshit I would have to navigate through in order to find the mythical NAWALT All regrettable things, but it is the…
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/13 04:05 PM
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There are different methods to obtain compliance and exert dominance, on that I won't argue. If you have to lose control of yourself to maintain control of a woman, or anything in your life for that matter, that says something to me. It should also say something to you, but if it works for you, keep being emotionally uncontrolled. I also took a look at your comment history. Unfortunate. You are a self professed mess.
/r/askTRP08/11/13 02:55 PM
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You choose to channel your negative states into anger externally. If you're saying that you do not make a choice, and your emotions are beyond your control externally in how they express themselves, you should probably do something about that. Losing control is losing your frame, feeding a womans desire for drama could cause them to continue a behavior for more attention and emotional fulfillment, not correct themselves. You are to be the oak, not to be the storm. It's always the calm that kills…
/r/askTRP08/11/13 02:24 PM
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I speak personally in this one, but phrase it generally all the same: The only reason for a man in control of himself to use his temper as a tool is when he determines that someone is likely to endanger something he loves. This could be due to a friend endangering their own life or happiness through bad decisions, a child endangering itself physically, or a woman (ideally, your significant other) endangering herself emotionally, as well as her relationship with you. Edit: That is to say that you…
/r/askTRP08/11/13 01:40 PM
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Yes, of course. Accidentally. Next week you may "fall down the stairs" or "run into a door knob".
/r/askTRP08/11/13 05:17 AM
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Options open for what? Leaving you for another woman? If you have doubts about a man's fidelity or his desire to "stick around", why is your response to bring in a legal contract that compromises his freedom? Fear. Fear and the desire for consequences against the man if he does wish to leave or is unfaithful. Even if that's not your desire, that is the reality. You encourage him to be legally bonded, exclusive to you, and punishable otherwise. I'm not concerned about bonding. Women can be damage…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 04:16 AM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't want to be with a virgin. Chaste, yes, as in a controlled or restrained sexuality. Not easy, not promiscuous. There's a big difference between a man wanting a chaste woman, but not being willing to commit to a slut, and a woman desiring commitment but ONLY pursuing that with marriage as the focused end means of expression.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 02:40 AM
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You've addressed nearly every word I said fully other than "indoctrination". Evaluating what qualities you want in a partner is all well and good, and I don't begrudge you any choices you'd make for yourself. Marriage, aside from some very slim or infrequent legal benefits, just does not make any practical sense for men. I was not critiquing your man, your choices, motivations, potential exploitation on your part, etc. It seems you idealize the institution, and without it, you are unwilling to s…
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 02:23 AM
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You've got the common commitment flow backwards. Men are the gatekeepers to commitment, by far. Recognition should be paid toward the motivation for a man to submit to marriage. I would also point out that your statements make it appear that you want a marriage and not a specific man. Looks like indoctrination to me.
/r/RedPillWomen11/10/13 12:44 AM
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Qualifier: Am dude. Met online, looking for LTR partner that wasn't focused on marriage as a concept. Found someone who doesn't want kids or marriage, which is a score for me. I look for marriage material in any LTR partner, even though I am unwilling to submit to marriage. If a wedding is what she wants, she can find that with anyone. If she wants me, then why would marriage be a strict necessity and not a substantial risk/threat with minor legal benefits? I'm unsure why many RPW focus on marri…
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/13 06:46 PM
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Certainly. I'm at 6'2" and I won't discriminate based on height, just like I won't select exclusively for it. Current partner is the tallest I've ever dated at 5'11", even though her license has her listed as 6'. The preference women have for physically larger men has to do with appreciating the size, intimidation, and instant feelings of respect/security that it can generate. For shorter guys, or guys with taller girls, just be sure you can pick them up, throw them around, show them that it doe…
/r/askTRP10/10/13 12:02 AM
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Do you have a persistent condition that forces you to lose weight to that dramatic degree? What is the cause?
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 09:00 PM
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Testing for their Unicorn index, excellent! Mercilessly pounding her with obstacles to uncover the limits of her feminine durability. I shall call it, the Unicorn Testing Initiative (UTI). I suppose it's more reasonable to test for an LTR, if you see potential to go that way as well as seek it, but then you'd then have to get all NAWALT on yourself. I'm in the NAWHBLT (not all women have to be like that) camp myself. I still am inclined toward organic observation within real world conditions. As…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 08:01 PM
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Sounds unfortunate, it's a good thing you got out of there. My problem previously was not being inconsiderately discarded when I was ill or injured, it was to shut myself down and refuse external help. Instead I would not speak to most anyone, hibernate/hydrate/recuperate, and then return to my life as normal. I had gained womanly ire in circumstances where I refused doting help, but at the time I'd thought that seeing me in my weak moments would make that image more pervasive than the condition…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 07:41 PM
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A personal hesitation. I don't see a point in artificially testing someone. If an intended woman is not complicit to my designs and demands for my own life, and my demands of her- then she's decided her own place and that's as far as I'll go. I won't lay down obstacle courses and begin grading others to see if they pass. To me, it doesn't seem a fair assessment to judge character on inorganic situations. Making "tests" a willed process, one could engage in heavy bias, make things overly difficul…
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 07:22 PM
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While I shy away from the idea of administering tests, I suppose it's simply observing their behavior regarding your circumstances. So, yes, good advice as long as it's not shit testing in its own right.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 06:33 PM
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I consider this an important anecdote. Thank you for sharing this. As a side note, I also have had a fever right in that neighborhood, and it's absolute agony.
/r/TheRedPill19/09/13 06:32 PM
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No, you don't have to. I assume you go to places where you feel pressured to join in on dancing as a group activity. If you don't enjoy it, either decline until you have proper motivation in the moment, or spend your liesure time elsewhere.
/r/askTRP31/08/13 01:00 AM
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Acknowledging guilt also can hint to feelings you may hold for her. Has anyone been as compliant and preferable as she has been for you? Absent emotional content, you could be infringing on your own internal structures, like honor.
/r/askTRP31/08/13 12:28 AM
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With the information you've shared, I don't think there's anything inherently unethical about what you're doing, she's compliant to your structure and desires. If you have internal questions on if you're being an asshole, it's probably because of her very meek personality. You're responding to her meekness, and possibly stoking a bit of a protective instinct in you. Sounds a little like guilt.
/r/askTRP31/08/13 12:08 AM
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Been lurking TRP for months. I signed up just now to upvote your comment specifically.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/13 08:45 PM
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