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Please don’t bring politics into this. I know you want to, but just don’t. But I will say, men have more rights now than they did in the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:42 PM
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I love this answer so, so much. Given the climate of this board I know that writing with such honestly is a gamble. You really did learn a ton. I have too. I may have done in a shorter span, but same. I couldn’t have appreciated what I have now without some bumps along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:01 AM
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Yes, but did the others give you perspective and give you the ability to value what you have? That is to say, if you don’t have a bad day, how to you know what a good day is?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:19 PM
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I agree with you, but inevitably over time details and information comes out. You won’t hear about it right away, but eventually in relationships previous experiences are discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:22 PM
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Great answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:20 PM
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Explain what you mean by the term “crazy cow”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:20 PM
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I have countless Jewish men in my family. I’m married to one. Dated 3 others. It did not hold up in my own experience, but it is a stereotype that exists. None of them are or were neurotic. Misogynists? Yep. At least the men in my family are. The dudes my age? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:05 PM
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So one of my husband’s exes was sexually abused by a family never and he helped her through it. Another one was a girl who was slowly converting to Judaism for him behind his back to make it easier for him to marry her. He had never entertained the thought of marriage or brought it up. Does it say something about him as a person? A little, I guess. Do I put a lot of weight on it? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:02 PM
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I love your honesty and ability to self reflect. Not everyone has that. Thank you for not only sharing your story, but also being able to see that the situations are complex and have nuance. We learn and we grow; that’s what makes us human.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:59 PM
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Physically, my hubs is everything I wanted in a human. Tall, stocky, athletic, but not football player guy. Then again, most of the guys I was into had dark hair. He’s blonde. Emotionally, he’s everything I’ve ever wanted. Type can kinda play a role, but I don’t know how much of a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:00 PM
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I was about to argue against your point, but I can say with confidence that I dated the same kind of dude from the time I was 17 onward. I just had more of a proclivity for alcohol, etc. when I was 19. My hubs and I both had periods of drug and alcohol use, but we were still dating the same kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:56 PM
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See, that answer I understand. I think most of us when we’re teenagers and early twenties with our underdeveloped frontal lobe, will make mistakes. We learn from our mistakes. I don't regret seeing anyone, but I regret the way I behaved in certain instances, because I was dumb at 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22. Point me in the direction of a group of mature and together 21 year olds and I’ll show you a group of really good liars. That being said, it taught me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:53 PM
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Huuuuuuuge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:46 PM
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It sounds like your argument goes beyond dating. It sounds like you’re saying a dude that is an alcoholics but has been sober and in recovery for 10+ years is their past. So if he has done some not very nice things in his past when he was drinking, but it was 15+ years ago, he is a summation of his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:44 PM
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Ok, but what if she dated shorter, thinner guys and you’re taller and stockier? Or that none of the dudes are exactly the same type? Hubs is taller than me by a lot and I wanted to settle with a dude who wears the pants in the relationship. Which, thank God, he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:26 PM
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If you’ve been on birthright you know how all the girls on the trip ogle the soldiers in the old quarter and by the Kotel? That’s fetishizing. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:12 AM
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You’re not overseas, but the people around you probably think like you do, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:42 AM
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Yay! For the record, the Russian men I grew up with, who were all Jewish, looked at all women that way. They thought women were trash or pure idiots if they slept with more than 2 people or anyone who wasn’t Jewish. God forbid they date someone who is a different skin color. I have no idea how people our parent’s age kept their women in line. I know they did, but it was a different time back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:38 AM
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This is a brilliant answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:29 AM
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So, correct me if I’m wrong. Depending on where you live it seems like ashkemazim and Sephardim have a different approach to women. Or at least dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:29 AM
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Oh boy. You sound like my Russian and Bukharian relatives. Can I ask where you’re from? Or at least where you are now? For reference, I’m a Russian Jew married to an American Jew. I have no problem volunteering information if asked nicely, but I don’t want to be strong armed into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:27 AM
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Hold on. From the sound of it, you are Sephardic, right? So if I’m saying I’m only saying Sephardim or ashkenazim, that’s ok by you, but just a white guy, not ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:23 AM
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Thank God. Some of the wild shot I’ve heard about judging women about who they dated when they were 17-23 and that being an indicator for their whole lives. My favorite ballsy statement was that people rarely change, so who they dated when they were 18 is who they always be. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:18 AM
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I would say two were conventionally unattractive. You know how men rate women? That’s really stringent and no way and I following that script. A face is a face unless there’s something missing, deformed, or totally disproportionate to the rest of his face. The guy who is now the lawyer was tall and gangly. When I first met him, he was so, so awkward. He also fell sophomore year and knocked out his two front teeth and had to get them fixed. Which they were…sorta. The one who was into mushrooms, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:19 AM
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Ok, 3 were ashkenazi Jews, 3 were white. All are college educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:05 AM
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Ok. Let me get this straight. So from 16-22 If I’ve dated 3 who weren’t Jewish and 3 that were; is that situation ripe for judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:52 PM
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Hold on, I’m a Jewish woman and I’m married to a Jewish man. We’re both white. Is this situation something you’d judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:45 PM
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That's a great point. If it isn’t too prying, Please kindly tell me about your dating history. If you’ve made mistakes or realized what you have wanted or didn’t want in relationships. The recent discussion I’ve had with a RP man basically said that he’s broken up with women because he didn’t like her exes and what that said about her. Implying that it says only negative things about her and there’s no way a person can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:32 PM
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The was in hs and college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:25 PM
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So this was 20+ years ago. One lived on my floor freshman year in the dorms who was brilliant and one of the funniest people I ever met. He’s now a lawyer with two masters degrees. One was my best friend from high school and most of college and I could talk to him about anything. He’s now a VP at interscope music. Back then, he was just my bud. One was a guy I went to college with and was so into music and he was hung like an absolute horse. The last one was my long term college boyfriend who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:50 PM
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Ok, so this is not meant to sound like I’m being a dick. It sounds like you feel more secure with a girl who hasn’t experienced a variety of experiences and more insecure with a girl who has experienced a variety of experiences. Do you feel like you might be projecting your insecurity on to her? Like she can’t possibly want to stay with you and be happy with you for a long time if she’s experienced a variety of things? Do you feel like that makes you feel insecure? I understand guys call it “cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:32 PM
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Ok. So it’s the fact that you’re afraid she won’t be happy because you’re more stable. Imma say that a lot of women make mistakes in dating when they were younger. So she might very well have realized that she was a stupid 18 or 20 year old and was blinded by inexperience. That’s the biggest difference between a 18 year old who knows nothing and a 22 year old who knows what she wants. Learning and changing is part of growth. I don’t know if a single healthy adult that acts like they did when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:37 PM
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I can tell you that I’ve dated 4 people that my friends asked me what I saw in them, because they were not attractive. At least to them. Like at all. In 3 of those cases the word ugly was thrown around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:13 PM
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Please explain the situations further. I’m genuinely curious why you’d break up with her if everything’s good, but you meet her exes and that changes your opinion of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:09 PM
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Ugh. This whole post and some of the comments are sour grapes. I’ve had the same group of girl friends for the last 23 years; we have never, ever gone for the same guy. Not only that none of us were into the same kind of guy. All through college my friend E was into dating guys from her business school and ended up dating a Swedish exchange grad student. I had a bad habit of dating guys who were into music, drugs, and alcohol. My friend Al who was only into Spanish guys most of whom she worked i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:49 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:36 AM
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Ok, so what I gather is that you are pro choice. We have thousands of other members in this board. I know you’re not alone in this. I just want to meet a handful of RP alpha men that are pro reproductive rights. Truly behind the idea that women have a right and duty to choose what’s right for themselves without anyone else’s input.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:31 AM
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Totally. I agree with all of that and I should have been more specific. It seems like the loudest group of conservatives is the one that got the abortion bans passed. They did it. I know that those groups exist, but if they were as powerful and large in numbers as the Trump supporting camp. Those laws wouldn’t have passed if most of the conservatives were against those measures. It’s a bummer that those groups aren’t as visible as Trump’s base which has only galvanized since the assassination at…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:29 AM
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I’m not saying all men and I’m not saying something as broad as “they’re cruel, insensitive, (insert adjective about their personality).” I’m saying on this narrow topic of reproductive rights the narrow population of conservative men aren’t pro choice. That’s different than painting an entire gender with one broad brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:24 AM
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Cool, point me in the direction of the nearest group of conservative men that are pro choice. Even a few. I would take even two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:46 AM
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The law states that Abortion in Oklahoma is illegal unless the abortion is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:29 AM
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Wait, what? The same conservatives that celebrated overturning roe v wade and the same ones that celebrated banning abortion entirely in 14 states including North Dakota , South Dakota, Idaho, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, and Louisiana? The same ones that wanted and got a 6 week abortion ban in Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina? I have yet to meet a conservative that wants a 20 week cut off. Myself, I’m a liberal leani…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:05 AM
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You’re right. I should’ve said they are the most politically conservative people I’ve ever seen. Right winger is shorthand I use.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:32 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:24 AM
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I should also say, I’m the child of immigrants from a communist totalitarian regime. They are the biggest right wingers I’ve ever seen. Almost all of the Russian immigrants and a lot of children of Russian immigrants are hella conservative. Like, card carrying members of the NRA, conceal-carry permit holding, Biden hating folks. You can be conservative and not be an antisemite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:20 AM
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Ok, I have to ask. Thoughts on birth control, morning after pill, and misoprostol? And are you cool with raising a child in awful circumstances if neither she nor you want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:09 AM
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I have yet to meet this mythical creature that’s just Jewish. If you grew up in it, it’s part if you. You either claim it and it’s part of your identity or you might be the person who takes a 23 and me test and find out somewhere down the line you are some percentage ashkenazi and then you give absolutely no fucks about who you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:06 AM
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Of course. They were traitors to their people and they exist now too. Hence the old adage; if ye fucks around, ye will find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:01 AM
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Ok, let’s pretend this mythical guy looks like Charlie Hunnam in Sons of Anarchy. Does he hate all Jewish people and say things like, “Jews run the media” and “all Jews are colonizers “? If that’s the case, he’s not getting some strange. Does he support of David Duke and Nick Fuentes? He’s not getting any. Is he a libertarian or more socially and fiscally conservative ? He’s absolutely getting laid. I’ve been guilty of wanting to fix a guy because everything else was great. I get it. I’m lucky. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:59 AM
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No fuckin way. I’m not fucking someone who wants me and my family dead. I’ve spent a day crying at yad vashem and know enough that beliefs make all the difference. Source; I’m a Jewish chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:34 AM
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Moderate is fine. It’s the conservative that supports taking away women’s reproductive rights that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:32 AM
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Boooooooy, I don’t agree with that statement. Every woman I know ranging from my niece who is 19 all the way up through my friends who are 44 could not date any right winger. Mainly because the GOP has been so openly against women’s rights including reproductive rights and body autonomy. Unless the guy dating explicitly states that they don’t agree with that part, it’s an absolute nonstarter. Politics comes up, especially now when the country is so divided. There’s absolutely no way me or my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:29 AM
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I have four people close to me who married a person who had a kid from a previous relationship. In one of the cases the parents of the kid could parent amicably and my friend is and was an awesome step mom. My friend has known this girl since she was 3 and now she’s finished college. The kid is great and listens to the step mom and step dad along with the mom and dad. Our close guy friend married a woman who has a daughter from a previous relationship. The dad is an alcoholic monster who can’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:35 AM
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I said paul and just realized there’s no way paul would want to date a 5’8 woman like myself…because let’s be honest, it would look silly. I thought I was of average height since men and women around me are taller than I am. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:12 AM
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I agree. Fundamentally, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:51 PM
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Sorry, I agree with you a certain point, but I don’t think a kid should suffer for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:10 PM
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It wasn’t meant to be an affront to women who were in abusive relationships because I can only imagine how hard it is to leave one. My mom is still in one and I can’t for the life of me get her out of it. I’m so glad you made it out. Sometimes we don’t know who or what we are until we can be by ourselves and really take stock. I’m glad you got to know yourself again and see that you’re awesome. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:03 AM
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I like that you’d still be there in some capacity. Mentoring any younger person is never a waste and can make all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:04 AM
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In no way is it sarcasm. All of the other answers were like, “I’m not even going to contact them again and don’t want to see them because they remind me of only bad things.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:34 PM
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I really, really love this answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:42 PM
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It means that they can only subsist on one thing and once that goes and they don’t have a real personality beyond caring about their looks, they’re screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:07 PM
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Absolutely. Any woman who subscribes to the notion that all men are trash is delusional. I guess I categorize that as more crazy and not pathetic. But when I hear women openly hate on other women it seems to be to garner attention and love from men. So they’re willing to betray their own gender to say something along the lines of, “ look, I’m one of the good ones! The other ones are all bad!” It’s desperate and so pathetic to me. At some point they buy into their own bullshit. And yes, it’s is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:07 PM
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Truthfully? Women actively seeking out drama. Women that solely rely on their looks. Women who are materialistic and status driven when searching for a partner. Women that are willing to be treated poorly because a man provides security in some sense, so they’re willing to accept cheating or an attitude that is generally hateful of women. The biggest, biggest sign that a woman is pathetic is that they actively and vocally support the RP movement. There are female creators that spout such nonsens…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:50 PM
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I definitely wanted to “fix” someone. I wanted someone who I could nurture. Not change, but just help. I married someone who was shy and made them open up. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:04 PM
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Does it help if she is ok with her husband playing civilization as long as she can come over to ask who he’s attacking now and how watching his stories is going?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:44 AM
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Is this sort of like, “why didn’t the other 7 say something when they saw I was being tripped?” And that being an allegory for how each gender didn’t call out bad behavior of their fellow men or fellow women? Because you’re right. When guys call out bad behavior of other men they’re called things like simps and white knights. When women call out other women, they’re called pick me girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:20 PM
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As soon as I wrote the things down I was kinda like, “yeah, I hear it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:43 PM
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Hey! She’s not boring. She’s got more than 2 degrees, speaks 3 languages, and is well traveled. She also becomes really into cooking for some reason and then becomes a homebody. She’s also an introvert who is funny when she hangs out in large groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:27 PM
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Finola. The other ones have 8 kids between the three of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:26 PM
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She moves with you when you get into a doctoral program. She has the opportunity to go further in her career if she works much longer hours, but she didn’t because that would mean that you need to be home way earlier and couldn’t be on campus when you need to. You also would need to take time off work when the kids are sick or on a break. She takes lower paying positions and when you move to another city for a professor position, she has to change jobs. Again. She can only work part time because…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:17 PM
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That’s fair. I’m going to be as fair as I can, but yeah, I’m biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:11 PM
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What if you know that for a fact that 17 years down the road while and after you get your doctorate you know that she sacrifices her career to raise your kids. Are you grateful or sad? She still loves you and does the lion’s share.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:24 PM
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I absolutely listed all their qualities. I was pretty objective. I don’t know what a gigathot is, but I imagine it might be like finola. You’re right, no single moms among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:28 PM
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Most everyone around me is about my height. But our friends range from 5’to 6’9. Everyone compared to that dude is short.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:21 PM
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Dude, same. Their personalities dictate so much and that’s more of the determining factor in our parenting than their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:20 PM
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Well, shit. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:12 PM
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Sure is the coolest one out of all of us, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:11 PM
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Wait, is 5’8 tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:06 PM
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D cups, tight core, no tummy, small baby waist. 34-26-36. 12% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:02 PM
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How about if I said she was hospitalized once for depression in college and had one suicide attempt that led to her being in the ICU?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:45 AM
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Loves men on the whole. Fervent supporter that women should have access to safe birth control methods, pro choice,supports planned parenthood. She does believe that historically that there was a wage gap and finds that women weren’t treated as equals for the majority of the 20th century. She also doesn’t like how men like Donald Trump talk about women. Later on, She will and has sacrificed her career to take care of her kids so that her husband could further his career as a professor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:43 AM
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I know, right? Before we had someone violent, someone with autism, someone very overweight who categorically does not want to change, and someone who is a big Donald Trump supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:39 AM
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She goes to a place of worship on some major holidays. She might pray, but it’s very rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:36 AM
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These are all real people in my friend group. 3 of us are married now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:32 AM
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What are Paul’s deal breakers? Honestly, I don’t know. This is just a list of characteristics. It doesn’t tell me about a person’s personality or the chemistry between two people. I can’t speak to why you’re single. What I can tell you is that if we are so reductive to boil down a person to a list of 12 traits and say that we are able to make an educated, reliable decision, we are being disingenuous. I don’t have a problem with paul having high functioning autism because my dad has Asperger’s. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:33 AM
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Because of the fact that he’s analytical, easy going, not easily irritated, no history of abuse, politically middle of the road. The fact that he’s a little messy is fine. Not a lot of sexual experience means he doesn’t have firm ideas of “this is what always worked for me before” and he can figure it out for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:50 PM
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I spent time discovering myself from 17-22. I traveled. I dated. I figured out what I didn’t want in relationships. I discovered who I was as a person, what were effective and ineffective coping mechanisms, what I wanted to do in terms of my career. I found out that I definitely wanted children, and how to be in a healthy relationship. If I had not had that time there’s absolutely no way I’d still be married or appreciative of my husband. Then again, I met my husband when I was 22 and got marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:35 PM
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In this hypothetical situation, it’s paul. Obviously paul.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:23 PM
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I swear I’m not asking to be a dick. I truly want to know. Why if she had some similar value would you think there was something wrong with her? Also, please explain your definition of a man’s mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:06 AM
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Ok, you are absolutely the exception to the rule then. Most guys have not slept with close to that number of women and don’t have your knowledge or expertise. You’re like Liam neeson in taken, you have a very specific set of skills. Then again when there are no pressures like “how will this person view me?” “Are the kids going to walk in if I take too long?” “if I ask for that thing, will it make him feel bad?”, it makes life so much easier. That being said, if you tighten and then pulse quick f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:11 AM
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Ok. Sure. No woman has faked an orgasm with really quick kegels and if they have the guy they’re doing it with has obviously known it was happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:55 AM
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The list is so long I don’t have the time nor the patience to get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:53 AM
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This girl knows what’s up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:49 AM
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I could’ve written this myself. The pressure and time constraint suck so much that any ability I might’ve had for an O to happen is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:31 AM
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Muscle contractions are easy to fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:29 AM
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Best reply to the stated question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:32 PM
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So the question I posed is this; if you are overweight and you can’t find a decent man is it possible for then to say, ‘his men are incredibly rare and it’s easier to stay single than to deal with them “? Do they have a right to say that? I know you’re repulsed by them. That’s not in question. The OP was saying that we need to stop telling women that good men are rare, but if their experience is different, don’t they have a right to have that opinion? And isn’t it ok for her to be voluntarily ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:05 PM
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As proven here and stated often on this board, men categorically either won’t date or are straight up repulsed by overweight or heavier women. So if you’re a woman who is either overweight or heavier, and let’s face it, that’s a lot of Americans, can’t find a guy who will date you, do you think their opinion that there aren’t good men is merited? I know, you’ll say, “just stop being fat, you fat, fat, fatties. Because even heavier men don’t want to date a heavier woman.” People are heavy for a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:33 AM
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Preach. I can’t possibly be attracted to someone I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:03 AM
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Honestly, I don’t speak for all women. That being said there were two instances where I fell for a friend pretty hard. In both cases, I objectively did not find either of them attractive at the start. One was in high school and one was in college. In both cases after I got to know them well and they were both funny, smart, kind, witty, self deprecating, and we shared a lot of common interests. Both were as emotionally supportive as a friend can be. Neither of them had a glow up. I wasn’t rebound…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:58 AM
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I agree with you fundamentally in that fertility goes down for normal women after their 20s. That being said in a lot of women who have PCOS ( and that’s a large population), we don’t ovulate normally in our 20s. It took me 7 years to have a successful pregnancy from ages 24-31. It was 2 rounds of fertility meds and IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF. Got pregnant at 26 and had a blighted ovum. Got pregnant with twins at 30 and gave birth at 31. After that, I had no problem getting pregnant without the he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:28 PM
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Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:34 PM
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Men leering at you. Incapability to engage in sincere and lighthearted conversation. Men who can’t engage in conversation with humor and kindness and say out of pocket shit that has nothing to do with the conversation. Men who can’t stop putting down women on the whole or paint them all with a broad brush. Men who love violence for the sake of violence. I’m not talking about those who love boxing, football, hockey, or high contact sports. Men who really subscribe to the red pill/black pill menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:51 PM
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I would say it’s confusing, but it’s really not. You don’t get us and that’s ok. You do you, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:01 PM
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Lying. Assuming you know more than me in whatever we’re talking about without knowing my background. I certainly don’t know everything, but I do know a fair amount about a variety of topics. Three degrees, growing up in a totally different part of the country, traveling abroad, not having English as my first language, and being the child of immigrants means I do know some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:39 PM
1

It’s hard to pick just one quality, but if I had to? Humor. I can’t be with someone who I can’t laugh with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:42 PM
2

Yeah, your frequency of commenting on this post DEFINITELY showed how little you cared on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:14 AM
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We’re all married, my guy. To start, I was here to observe a phenomena. Now I’m just here to rattle some cages and make virgins upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:33 PM
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We’re all in our 30s and 40s. All of us have lived. Every single one of us. How sad does your life have to be to idealize a sweet, cute virgin who will go with you blindly only to know you’ll never find her? How sad is it to aim for the best of the best only to make her live in your grandmother’s basement, get you Cheetos and Mountain Dew, and then watch you play counterstrike and call of duty for the umpteenth time?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:40 PM
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I think they mistake young, virginal, and sweet for gullible and stupid. Since she’s sweet she’ll put up with whatever and will be docile as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:26 PM
1

lol. Ok, buddy. Me and every female I know, all 100 of us, will in fact have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:22 PM
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So if a woman has any of these, it’s an automatic no. A good portion of 20 and 30 something women meet at least one of these criteria. Most if not all of them have a job and goals, but a lot of dudes still look at them as human waste and then have the gall to say that women are dismissive of them and they can’t find a date. JFC. So if a woman is perfect for you other than having feminist views and is vaccinated, you guys automatically think, “naaaah, I’m good.” It’s wild that you guys don’t see …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:53 PM
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So the truth is that most women won’t put up arrogance, deceitfulness, willful ignorance, misogynistic behavior, lack of a sense of humor. Those are all behaviors that are all easily changeable and a lot of men categorically refuse to let go of them because and I quote, “ I should be accepted for who I am” or this fundamental belief that men and women will never be equals. It’s all around gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:01 PM
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Wait, do you think it’s easier to change bisexuality, being a single mom, mental health diagnoses, vaccination status, feminist beliefs, number of people slept with, and weight than income? You’re right, height and dick size is impossible to change without surgical intervention. Not impossible with the advancement of modern medicine. It’s extraordinarily difficult, but Income is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:51 PM
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So what I’m hearing your say is that you want to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:44 PM
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The whole movement is laden with a victim complex. It’s self pitying, but has major undertones of “ I’m not willing to change anything about myself because why should I?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:37 PM
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I hate to break it to you champ, but MOST women are not virgins, cute, loyal, or sweet. Women, the same way as men, want to go out there to learn, grow, experience life and not automatically settle down at 16. We don’t even know what we want when we’re young. You truly only learn from experience. Most of us go to college and there’s no way around that. Very, very few of us want to commit without knowing what we’re committing to. Commitment without experience leads to awful midlife crises when at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:32 PM
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Have you not seen the dating profiles of men where they say, “no daddy issues, no single moms, no feminists, no liberals, no vaccinated, no bisexuals, no high body count women. My red flags are needy, very opinionated, mentally ill, no job, parties often, no goal in life, dyed hair, septums/other piercings, weighs more than 170lbs” ? That’s an exact quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:28 PM
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Hold on, your preferences are the ones you listed and you believe that 50% of the female population is a virgin, thin, sweet, loyal, cute? Or are you just listing off the general preferences of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:06 PM
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I wouldn’t use the word hate. I would use the word caught off guard. I would use the word dislike if the girl in question is in a relationship. A long, long time ago In the 6 instances it’s happened, I would only say I was caught off guard. Sometimes it worked out, sometimes it didn’t. Then again, when I was between the ages of 16-21 I was such a sucker for “the friend becomes boyfriend” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:19 PM
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RP men; “abortion is immoral and should be outlawed.” Also RP men; “it’s her fault the baby has Down’s syndrome and I’m not taking care of either of them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:07 AM
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It’s very much the narrative that only young, healthy women want to, should, and do in fact get pregnant. Anyone who isn’t pretty, healthy, and young shouldn’t get pregnant. Of those young, pretty, healthy women they will all have healthy pregnancies without complications. If you have complications, it’s your own fault. Only traditional women want to have kids. Basically women over 25 aren’t having kids. The idea is so deluded it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:00 PM
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Do you guys really not believe there are true incidents where a woman is physically unable to carry a baby without real complications to herself and the baby? I say this as a person who knows a woman who was receiving chemo treatments and got pregnant. Preeclampsia is a real thing that occurs in a lot of women. I say this as a person who became septic with my first pregnancy after 7 weeks of bed rest and almost died. I wanted those babies and thank God that all three of us made it, but not unsca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:22 PM
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So you WANT to be the good looking enough to treat a woman like shit, but you aren’t. You truly believe that if treat a woman well, she will shit all over you and mock you…because all women, amiright?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:29 PM
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Hard agree with everything you’ve said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:27 PM
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I love this answer so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:28 PM
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Ok. Hard agree on all of this. So here’s my sincere question; if you have a kiddo who has trouble being assertive and standing up for himself, what do you recommend? How do you teach assertiveness in boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:04 AM
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Most Women want an egalitarian relationship, say absolutely not. We contribute and put our money in the communal pot. The guys who see relationships as transactional and want a stay at home mom, welp…for their partners; yes, absolutely. You don’t treat us as equals so you put yourself in that position, playboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:45 PM
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70% of women can’t orgasm through PIV sex. Here’s what your post should say: TLDR: sex and women’s fertility is more important to RP men than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:37 PM
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Someone finally said it eloquently. I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:26 PM
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It makes me grateful for my husband and most of the guys with radical beliefs absolutely should go their own way. Otherwise, they’d ruin a woman’s life with all of the haranguing and self pitying. And honestly? I’d rather be gay than end up with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:21 PM
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To quote you. Boo hooo, tell them to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:15 PM
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That he doesn’t do anything fun or interesting. He’s too focused on his looks and is probably arrogant and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:13 PM
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Has a job, caring, had a good sense of humor, not bitter about the way men are treated, thinks his partner is his equal, not over 300 lbs, is a proponent of positive masculinity, honest, ok with me having partners before him, ok with my sexuality without calling me a slut, believes in egalitarianism in relationships. I know that’s a lot to ask. Obviously I’m shallow for asking for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:59 PM
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So we both have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:39 PM
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Women get called shallow if we focus on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:32 PM
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Because at the time i thought i was in love and thought we could be together. Both were emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:18 AM
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Why would we want to get off to dudes that way though? That’s not what works for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:29 AM
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I promise, the guys I’ve seen who are short, that’s not the biggest issue. They’re dudes who are caring and sometimes, like anyone else, can get a lil angry because marriage and kids can get hard. I truly, truly believe that once mental health is squared away and you see that things are not that bad, the incel mentality goes away. I promise, there are so, so many women who go into a situation trying to help and believing whatever is wrong, they can fix. Like I said to my husband, “ just let me l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:27 AM
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Ok, so let’s look at fetishization here. Anecdotally, I’ve seen a lot of dudes be ok with sleeping with heavy women, but they are not ok with dating or marrying her because of social stigmatization. I’ve had it explained to me like this, “fat women are like Vespas. They’re fun to ride, but you never want your friends to see you on one.” As far as penis size goes, in the world, not Reddit, it’s not discussed among married women. That’s something you can’t outwardly see. Unlike a woman’s body. Hon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:18 AM
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Me personally? I know two dudes 5’5 and under who married fellow short ladies. I also know a guy who is 5’6 and married a woman who’s 5’9. All of them are attractive, they’re just a little on the short side. I don’t go searching on boards, so I don’t know. What I do know is that of the 45+ couples in my area, there are plenty of guys who are 5’8 and under who are married with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:08 AM
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Ozempic is cost prohibitive. Not only that, medications used to treat PCOS like metformin are ineffective. In studies like this one, women have significantly more stigmatization than men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5846936/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:51 AM
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I have to ask, would you have the same opinion if women said, “avoid men with a history of trauma”? Or would you say, “See? Women can’t be supportive of man’s feelings”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:31 AM
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The vast, vast majority of people are not attracted to heavier women. Yes, women can be genetically predisposed to obesity; PCOS is a great example. On top of that, women are expected to have breasts. Lacking in that makes you seem less feminine. Unless there’s surgical intervention, you’re stuck with what you’re genetically predisposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:28 AM
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Ok, but at two different times I got 2 dudes through really emotionally trying situations where they cried and needed help. I would say they were two of my closest friends. At different points in my life we were physical, like, a lot. We never dated and it absolutely broke me. We weren’t partners. I was a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:26 PM
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Honestly? I’ve seen dudes that lost their virginity at 22, 25, 27 and it wasn’t weird. I had a female friend who lost it at 40. It’s not weird if a guy is a virgin at 40. I might have some questions, but it’s not off putting at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:14 PM
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I agree with everything you said. The first part gave me pause. Traditionally, men lead and women support and you’re right, it doesn’t have to be that way, but rather it’s about what works. I don’t want those rigid expectations put on me in that there’s only one way to behave or function as a woman or as a couple. If you’re only interested in finding someone based on those rigid expectations, it’s going to be a hard road. That being said, we have careers, we also have three kids that are young. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:14 AM
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I love this explanation. Good on you, dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:44 AM
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Ope. I also forgot self pity. They’re self pitying and saaaaaaaaad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:34 AM
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Being on this board makes me feel like Goodall in Gombe stream national park. Purely because it’s fascinating to observe these rituals. Except instead of studying majestic chimpanzees that have complex social structures and display emotions like sorrow and joy, it’s a bunch of virgins who won’t ever find the mate they’re looking for and only show anger and disgust. Either way, I’m here for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:31 AM
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It reeks of Idealism and inexperience. Some of the comments are gross, but I’ve also seen some dudes that are reasonable and try to give women a fair shake. They don’t hold double standards and actually seem to care about someone, which is really cool to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:23 PM
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I’m trying to study this like a sociologist and figure out how red pill men/pink pill women think. I like to try to see their approach before marriage when they’re idealistic and then after marriage and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:51 PM
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Dude, same. I felt gross reading some of the responses and it legitimately made me want to never look at the board again. It also made me appreciate my husband so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:52 PM
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Are you in a relationship and do you have kids or is this all theoretical?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:52 AM
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I totally get what you mean. It does give you into a position when you say that it gives you to pick up the slack and change so that you both have don’t have the exact same weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:48 AM
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Oof, buddy. If it makes you feel better I dated a dude who was like me when I was 17 and he cheated on me with a dude. It did not feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:56 AM
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This girl gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:30 AM
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Totally reasonable expectations from any normal human. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:28 AM
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So how would you want to treat her and be treated? What standards do you hold her to that you don’t abide by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:01 PM
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I think you misconstrued the question. Let me clarify. She makes as much money as you do, goes to the gym as often as you do, eats as healthy as you do, is equally as educated, is on social media as often as you are, Is your same age and level of attractiveness, plays as many video games as you do, you share the same household responsibilities, she holds you as accountable as you hold her, provides you with the same level of emotional support and empathy, is as loud or quiet as you are, is equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:30 PM
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It sounds like you want to be admired for your looks the same way you admire women’s looks. It also sounds like there might be some disdain for the dating process and some subconscious self loathing like you believe your personality isn’t good enough for that to be the sole motivator for someone to appreciate you. Before I answer that question as to whether or not I dated my friends, I want to be clear; there’s no answer I could say here where I won’t be judged. If I say I did two times and it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:44 PM
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Oh god, that’s so sad. Hugs. I’m sorry you had to give up the things you love. I hope you find happiness and whatever it is you’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:41 PM
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Can I ask what she cares about that you don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:47 PM
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I see you’re not a parent yet, but I can tell you as a parent we’re both equally nurturing. We share responsibilities and have the same approach and that’s what makes it work. It doesn’t make him less attractive and we get down regularly. It feels good to be on the same page. I can also tell you that my mom friends and I have called other kids pricks and assholes. Recently there was a bully in school that my friend called a cunt. We’re not all flowers and rainbows all the time. We’re still kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:39 PM
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Ok, so no egalitarianism or equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:22 PM
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But why can’t men be nurturing and kind too? Isn’t it fair to treat kids the same way that you expect her to? It isn’t about mother or father.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:19 PM
1

So you wouldn’t have a problem with her sleeping with other people if you could do it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:15 PM
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Isn’t it fair to be held to the same standards that you put forward for them? So wouldn’t you need to compromise the same amount that she compromises?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:14 PM
1

You mean other then her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:07 PM
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Not gonna lie, that’s pretty cool. But wouldn’t you end up married since it’d be that awesome? You would just have fun together which is what marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:50 PM
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The part of the question asked originally includes expectations. I should have been more clear that I also meant physically too. I agree holding someone to the same standards you hold for them is important. You meet those standards and it’s reasonable o expect the same thing from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:27 PM
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It’s so gross when women expect someone to change for them. Truly. You like who you like because they’re them. You shouldn’t like someone based on who they could become. I say that as someone who’s been married for 15 years. The only thing I hope for is that he sees a doctor when he should. That’s about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:24 PM
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I agree that abiding by those same principles at important because it fosters a sense of trust and respect. But what expectations do you have of your partner as it relates to physical attractiveness and is it cool for her to expect the same things of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:12 PM
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So if i understand it correctly there are no expectations, physically ( she doesn’t need to be physically attractive) and emotionally (she doesn’t need to provide kindness or or emotional support when you might need it). Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:09 PM
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You’re not wrong. Sharing a sense of humor and the same hobbies is really important. What expectations do you have of women and is it ok if she has those same expectations of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:54 PM
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Ok, but what expectations do you have of women and is that ok if a women puts those same expectations on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:52 PM
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OK so if you had the same expectations you put on women put on you, that would be cool. Am I incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:51 PM
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Ok, so for women, myself being one of them; I started off not attracted to someone, but got to know them and fell in love. Is that the approach you want in a partner or do you want the same treatment that you stated?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:49 PM
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Genuinely, I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. If you are, cool. If not, that’s ok too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:45 PM
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Easier. 40. 7. 5’9, RN, close to 90k, stand up/cooking/basketball/swimming. I am sure lots of folks love concerts, seeing stand up, traveling, reading nonfiction/biographies, and watching documentaries, but I love those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:14 AM
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Ok. Do you want me to talk about his feet? Or the fact that he’s bald? Or his dad bod?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:02 PM
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What’s lebron’s legacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:00 PM
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I have. I absolutely have. I wasn’t attracted to them at the start, but they made me laugh harder than anyone else had and I dated them for a while. And then later he broke up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:59 PM
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But isn’t that all dating and relationships? You fail and then you try again?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:57 PM
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I’ve loved him since I was 22 and I’m so fucking lucky. He made me a better person and I’m grateful that I met him. He’s not pompous or arrogant. He’s just a really, really good dude. You ever meet a 22 year old woman who just got out of college and is kind of a mess? That was me. Then he convinced me to pursue a career I love. I wouldn’t want to have the awesome kids that we have with anyone else. He makes me laugh and I appreciate that so, so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:56 PM
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Because you guys focus on it so heavily. If a red pill man sees us together they automatically might think, “she chose him for reasons x, y, and z.” I did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:50 PM
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He is taller than I am by a couple inches. He wasn’t successful when we met. That’s my point. I had feelings and I loved him a month in because he is the best person I’ve ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:47 PM
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Because that seems to be the thing that red pull men focus on. Is he tall? Is he successful? Is he handsome? Then you must’ve picked him for those reasons. Nothing else factors in abiding to that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:46 PM
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Ok, so if he was intimate with me, it means he slays?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:45 PM
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18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:44 PM
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I honestly don’t think of people as broke or ugly. I’ve known the same people since I was a teenager in college and no matter what stage we were in, we were just trying to figure out a path forward and we dated people along the way. We were all broke. We all went through phases where we made bad choices with our own physical appearance ( I got bangs for Chrissakes.) None of us were really pretty. We were just average. I never thought of myself as particularly pretty. We Never dated because of su…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:40 PM
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He did not slay. He also was a couple inches taller than I am. Does that mean that he’s automatically high value if he’s taller than I am??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:32 PM
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We were absolutely both broke as a joke. He also is a little taller than I am. By a couple inches. I don’t understand how height plays a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:32 PM
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I agree with everything you’ve stated, but based on the responses on the board from red pilled men, I think we can all agree on one thing; red pilled men shouldn’t, don’t need to, or want to get married. Like, at all. And women don’t want to marry these folks and shouldn’t. Like, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:52 PM
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Omigod. LOL to everything you’ve said. Seriously, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:45 PM
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I like the fact that my sense of humor is more in line with a lot of men. I also appreciate that I feel less afraid of judgement when I’m talking to a dude. Plus, I am the first to want to crack a joke instead of automatically deferring to “what is the right thing to say emotionally?” My friends now are much more like me; moms that occasionally call other kids pricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:47 AM
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There are s*itty women out there, that’s for sure. There are women who expect men to pay for them and coddle them while giving nothing back in return. Most women, MOST WOMEN, are not like that. I can’t speak for everyone, just me and my friends. We just wanted someone who is emotionally stable, someone to laugh with, and who can commit. That’s why all of us are married and in healthy relationships where no one is put on a pedestal and both parties are equal. There are also really awful men out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:54 PM
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Sounds like someone has been burned recently and has a broken heart…so he’s making generalizations about all women. Source: I’m a woman who perused my then boyfriend, a broke, introverted 25 year old when I was a 22 year old kid. Never expected him to pay. Paid for cab rides to his house myself. Just liked hanging out with him because he’s a great dude. We’ve been together for 18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:23 PM
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