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CMVOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:21 AM
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Question For WomenOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:34 AM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:59 PM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:31 PM
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ScienceOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:10 PM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:19 PM
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CMVOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:18 PM
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ScienceOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:20 PM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:34 AM
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ScienceOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:59 AM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:04 AM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:55 PM
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Question For WomenOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:11 AM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:53 AM
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DiscussionOk_Entrepreneur2931/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:24 AM
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I find that pretty hard to believe considering you've been commenting nonstop for the past two hours and you're way more active on PPD than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:14 PM
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Don't worry, I'm gonnap be sending you multiple studies and anecdotes If you were gonna to do that you already would have. But you didn't because you don't have any, and you're basing all this off of your retarded foidbrain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:06 PM
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What is punishable by law, that shouldn’t be? I don't know, smoking weed, drinking under the age of 21, consensual prostitution? I'm sure people of all political stripes can find at least few examples. That you don’t even know what the loverboy method is I understand perfectly well what you're talking about, I just don't care. I don't give two shits if they're doing it because they're emotionally attached to him or whatever. It's still perfectly consensual in the ordinary sense of the term. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:04 PM
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Really, you were the one who claimed that they could, the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:00 PM
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Why not? Face, height, race, autism, etc. Really, you were the one who claimed that they could, the burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:56 PM
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Just because that "former incel" on twitter succeeded doesn't mean that other incels can. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:47 PM
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Then you haven’t been on this sub long enough. I've been here longer than you. What do you think all the “bad boy” posts are referring to? The ones I've seen are more or less saying that all else being equal, women prefer less agreeable men. I've never seen someone say that it's impossible for an agreeable man to be desirable. I’ve seen several that aren’t unattractive and are good looking who still struggle tremendously. Beauty is normative. Just because you think they're decent looking enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:46 PM
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It was an analogy. Just because that "former incel" on twitter succeeded doesn't mean that other incels can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:43 PM
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"Bill gates became a billionaire so anyone could do it teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:15 PM
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At the end of the day, for most people and most jobs it's still a buyer's market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:14 PM
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No way I'm watching the whole thing, from the gist of it, it's a video about one former self-identified incel who got a girlfriend? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:55 AM
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Are you on crack? Men usually get rejected when they do, that's like you're the one "selecting" when you go through the job application and get rejected. Delusional. Approaching is not synonymous with selecting. By and large women are doing the "selecting".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:53 AM
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Criminal is an easy bar Technically anyone who drank before turning 21 has committed a crime. But I presume you meant "felon", in that case, no it's not an easy bar to clear because the vast majority of men are not felons. hence the fact that men were screeching about serial killers Please indicate where I said the words "serial killers". And there are plenty of agreeable men who get attention too. No one claimed that agreeable men can't be desirable. If disagreeableness was what women wanted ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:51 AM
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Men and women have just as many options to date, there are as many of each after all. What kind of logic is this? That doesn't mean men and women have the same options. Women are far more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:48 AM
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How are you sure of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:47 AM
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Getting to the starting point won't get you to the finish line if there's a crocodile-filled moat in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:41 AM
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You can't know people if you refuse to go out and socialize. I said it's not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:38 AM
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Depends on your definition of bad boys and kind. Men include regular assertive or quiet men as bad boys when they’re attractive even though they’re not criminals. "Criminal" is a very high bar. There are many men who are moderately disagreeable without being felons. Kind men are seen as doormats by the men on here so they dismiss all other kind men who aren’t simpy desperate doormats. In my experience, a man being labelled "kind" in this context usually implies that he pays for most or all thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:37 AM
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But how are we defining incel? This study defined "incels" based on self-identification with the label. they just don’t go outside. "Going outside" is often not sufficient for men to get laid/get a GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:34 AM
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But how are we defining incel? This study defined "incels" based on self-identification with the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:33 AM
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That's just two people. This study that self-identified incels tend to have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:26 AM
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Because guys don't mind as much when women are boring compared to vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 11:21 AM
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Unfortunately, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:55 AM
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They're used to being treated as second pickings and their self esteem is on the floor. In what world? Certainly not in the dating world, women have way more options than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:37 AM
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It doesn't sound like you have more than ten brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:28 AM
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Regardless, that's what it boils down to, "caring about things". When women ask how much you make, or outline their expectations for housework, or don't offer to pay for their own food on dates, that's the same attitude being expressed. People expect their romantic partners to do things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:21 AM
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It's one thing to you to expect you to be a decent person, it's another thing to expect someone else to do things for you, which is generally the case with girlfriends and wives. commitments of time I don't think friends, or at least decent friends, expect you to spend certain amount of time with them. Life happens, things happen. People have things to do or they have to move. Worst case scenario you might drift apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:18 AM
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Most of them are like this, at least to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:13 AM
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Male friends don't expect things from us the same way that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:13 AM
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Apples and oranges. Friends (or at least, decent friends) don't expect me to "bring anything to the table". Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:12 AM
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to know that being hot gives women a pass on a lot Literally even just being female gives them a pass on a lot. That chick in the video was mid AF, look at her attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:10 AM
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I find it hard to believe that there are many women who don't care what men bring to the table. Most women prefer that men pay on dates, most women prefer to settle down with men that earn significantly more than them, most women bitch about men not doing enough around the house, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:08 AM
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If most women really wanted to be with criminals Please indicate where I used the word "criminal" prior to this. There certainly are a lot of them There are far more women than criminals, or at least serious criminals. Technically speaking drinking when you're under 21 is a misdemeanor crime in most states. And if criminality was such a sought after characteristic to women, men would rush to provide them with as much as they possibly could. For sex. As if men would do literally anything for sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:05 AM
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It's not evidence for jack shit. I have no idea which of the scenarios you listed in your post this is supposed to be an example of. Seeing as how you can't do something as simple as point it out, I think you have no idea either because you're bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:40 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? Women like a lot of traits that the majority of men don't have. or men in relationships As if relationships are the only, or even the best, metric for how much women like you. "Bad boys" are more likely to be interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:39 AM
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Which one of your made-up reactions in the comment is that supposed to represent?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:21 AM
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Considering how many marriages end in divorce, and how women seem to be the common denominator(lesbian couples are far more likely to divorce than gay male couples), women's "love" is fickle and I don't think it's wise to rely on that for a satisfying and fulfilling relationship. Men need to have the ability to walk away and our partners need to be afraid of losing us if they don't treat us right. Most women seem to understand this when it's the other way around, a lot of you say things like "wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:16 PM
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Your move
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:11 PM
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There are a lot of ways you can gauge genuine interest and sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:11 PM
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What OP's describing isn't dishonest, he's not telling anyone to lie about wanting to move in together or get married. No incentive... except caring about you and loving you? I didn't say "no incentive", I said "not the same incentives". The bonding hormones released by your brain responsible for what you call "love" taper off as a sexual relationship progresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:45 PM
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Not adhering to womens' silly and entitled expectations is not "deception". The net result is that you could end up wasting a lot of women's prime years. Womp womp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:36 PM
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this is still an implicit deception. Many women--more so than men IMO--are preparing for a relationship to take it's traditional course. Not adhering to women's silly and entitled expectations is not "deception".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:36 PM
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If you are telling women that you're interested in developing a relationship, but in fact you just want to access their genitals until you get tired of them People of both sexes end relationships and even get divorced all the time, I'm not sure what your point is. It's not just about sex. Maybe you like her and the relationships is good now, but no one can see the future. People and relationships change. Leaving an exit path open and not risking your assets by refusing marriage and even cohabita…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:30 PM
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I'm not "homophobic" because what consenting individuals do in their bedrooms doesn't matter to me, and I haven't been conditioned by religion into thinking otherwise. The advocacy definitely spills out of the bedroom and is often over-the-top but I have nothing against non-straight orientations in of themselves. I don't need some self-serving motivation to feel this way. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe straight men are the primary perpetrators of homophobia. Depends, do you count not da…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:25 PM
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There's more evidence for "women like bad boys" than "women like kind men".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:00 PM
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Getting married or being in a relationship in of itself is not necessarily a good thing if they chose you for your money and provider traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:59 PM
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I personally see it all the time. My anegdote now negates your anegdote and we're left with nothing. There's more than just anecdotes demonstrating how hard it is for short dudes. There have been a lot of studies involving speed dating and online dating and it's brutal for manlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:58 PM
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i think a lot of the guys responding in such a manner Literally have never seen any responses like what OP is describing, this is just a creative writing exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:57 PM
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I think you're pulling these interactions out of your ass. I spend quite a bit of time here and I've never seen guys say any of these things. Care to link any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:56 PM
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You don’t understand that the lover boy method, which Andrew Tate has literally a „how to“ video on, is internationally recognized as human trafficking and punishable by law Lots of things are "punishable by law" that arguably shouldn't be. If he got them to work for him through attraction or whatever that's still consensual as far as I'm concerned. You ignore further, that he has several more videos out on how to defraud the women „working for him“, the clients in his business and commit tax fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:42 PM
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That’s not the natural baseline though. It absolutely is, what, you think most men have an abundance of options? Most men might not be incels but they definitely struggle and grind. Women's lack of empathy for this is frankly not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:37 PM
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It can be that but mostly it’s the idea is that men like to pursue "x to doubt" because when there’s a mutual even attraction simping is sexy What makes you think other women react the same way to male simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:19 AM
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about not seeming too eager, playing hard to get and not smothering men From what I've read they "play hard to get" primarily to gauge his interest in them. The logic being that if he really likes her he will keep pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:48 AM
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"you'll make a girl very happy one day, just not me teehee" Repeat x100
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:25 PM
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Which laws would he be breaking if they weren't being held against their will? The only possibilities would be laws generally restricting sex work, or immigration laws. Either way I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:17 PM
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Whatever you want to call it, if they weren't held against their will then I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:05 PM
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"Lie and say you want a relationship if you want casual sex" TRP doesn't say this.....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:04 PM
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Professional interactions are also social in nature.....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:04 PM
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Then tell them your expectations of exclusivity. Don't expect others to freely divulge personal details of their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:03 PM
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Anyone who can easily detect sarcasm on an internet text message board must be clairvoyant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:34 AM
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Their sex life with others isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:32 AM
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Per your OP I'm talking about people here. "Neurotypical people aren't sitting around discussing this shit all day. They're having sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:38 AM
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If I am involved with more than one person, I firmly believe that I have a positive duty to disclose that fact to each of them Someone's sex life is none of your business unless you want to establish exclusivity. Partners shouldn't have to specifically ask to get basic information like whether you are exclusive with them Basic information to you is personal business to me. and not volunteering that fact is an act of deceit. Not being an open book with no privacy is deceit?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:25 AM
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I'm not talking about men here specifically, a significant minority of men in general aren't getting laid regularly when they're young. It only changes when they get older and can betabuxx. At least, according to GSS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:24 AM
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even though that’s your „religion“ That's hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:23 AM
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Saying that men should be open books is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:22 AM
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I have little reason to believe that the women who cammed for Tate weren't free to quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:21 AM
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That he is not dating/fucking anyone else, that he wants a relationship with HER, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:12 AM
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The main example no, they're not lying. They're just providing secondary reasons for lifting instead of the main reason. The second example yeah, but it's to avoid a controversial subject so I don't see that as a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:12 AM
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Neurotypical people aren't sitting around discussing this shit all day. They're having sex. Maybe women, not necessarily men. Being "normal" often isn't good enough anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:10 AM
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they have a right to know some basic things about me: who I am, what I stand for, what my intentions are, whether I am seeing anyone else. If you want to know you can ask. A lot of the time women assume instead of asking, and accuse men of "leading them on" or "deceiving" them when their assumptions turn out wrong. But I don't pretend to be someone I'm not. Never said anything about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:07 AM
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but I don't see the connection between what women on PPD Saying that people are/should be completely forthright and open in all interactions. This is textbook autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:06 AM
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its easy to scope out red pill men. All you have to do is tell them you have an n count of a 100 and they will probably not be interested. This would be off-putting to many if not most men, even those who aren't familiar with TRP or the manosphere. No one says that hahaha, please link where a women ever said that. Take a gander. I already referred to this post in my OP. Like yeah people lie but no need to justify it because its not a good thing. My hypothetical situation with the job interview w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:05 AM
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I only gave one example. What I described is not lying, but it's intentionally not disclosing certain things, which many women on PPD claim is "dishonest". but to be pro lying in a relationship is an interesting take RP guys aren't that interested in relationships and I wasn't just talking about lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:02 AM
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Now look who's ignoring parts of comments lol. So they didn't tell me but they told a bunch of red pillers It's literally just one guy who said this so far, presumably from personal experience. And people, especially men, sometimes prefer to talk about personal issues on the internet instead of people they know IRL because of the anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:59 AM
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But eventually it will become apparent, you can only keep a mask on so long, especially one as drastic as that. How much time would a man really want to spend with someone he doesn’t like, and is faking his personality for just to get sex? He's not describing faking anything, he's describing avoiding controversial subjects, which most non-autistic people are capable of doing......
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:46 AM
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You don't need to be "skilled" at anything to avoid about talking about controversial subjects like TRP and the manosphere. If you don't have a filter then you're probably autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:44 AM
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He's not lying, he's just avoiding certain subjects. Regardless, most people tell white lies. I don't have a problem with women lying about their sexual pasts(they don't want to get shamed for it) for instance, and I doubt think you do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:43 AM
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What part? The other men you know? What makes you assume they would have told you about it? And many guys aren't attractive enough to get regularly approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:49 PM
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"I've never been groped or sexually assaulted so these things rarely happen".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:45 PM
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You're missing the point. What is "creepy behavior"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:56 AM
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No analogy is perfect. He could have said something like "don't ask consumers how to be a good salesperson" and the message would have been the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:47 AM
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Bros before hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:43 AM
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I’m very sure that most men are more than fine with the idea of having to radically improve or change themselves for the better to meet the demands of women. There's no gym for your bone structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:29 AM
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Most couples are very similar to each other. It's called assortive mating. Most research on that I've seen focuses on easily measurable metrics like race or socioeconomic status. What about other traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:19 AM
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You get one life. Why would a woman commit herself to one guy for decades, unless he is impressive and offers her a lot? What does she bring to the table? Dating and casual sex might be very easy for women, because men don't feel need to be very selective when they're not making firm commitments. Marriage is not the same. A man is sacrificing a lot to marry you, if you don't have highly desirable traits yourself then don't expect to land a top-tier man. But women have inherently got more value t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:17 AM
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If you like the person, it is a charming peccadillo. This isn't shaming, this is a compliment If you were genuinely against shaming some trait or behavior you wouldn't do it at all, even against people you don't like. Because if you shame someone for something, you're also shaming anyone else who is like that. If women claim to be against shaming men for crying, but end up doing it anyways to men they dislike, then they're not being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:15 AM
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That's completely not true What part of my comment is "not true"? I know because I've had men reject me. What does this have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:51 AM
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I've seen far fewer men shit on women for rejection than vice versa, and it's far less socially acceptable for men to do so than women. Men who act entitled get called incels whereas entitlement when it comes to sex and dating is very mainstream among women, it's common for feminists to complain about men's beauty standards for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:32 AM
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Mediocre women get some male attention but not like I’ve seen guys here claim. Ugly women, almost none. They would if they put themselves out there by being on dating apps, going to parties/bars/clubs, especially if they make the first move. Make an OLD profile with an ugly chick's photos if you don't believe me. You might not have guys throwing themselves at you wherever you go, boohoo. Men saying the average woman gets tons of attention all the time, never has to pay for drinks, free food, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:43 PM
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Say they want young women but most guys actually date around their age This doesn't mean they're lying, maybe young women don't want them...... Say they want a natural woman but go for girls with heavy makeup Real shit. Guys think light makeup/natural-looking makeup is no makeup, leading them to significantly overestimate the beauty of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:32 AM
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Men talk about how they want a low-n woman Most men are not as autistic as PPD males. but go after the more overtly sexy and outgoing types who are more likely to have slept around. Mediocre and ugly looking women still get plenty of male attention. Most couples are about evenly matched it terms of looks Beauty is normative Women use makeup and other products that superficially enhance their appearance(hair/lash extensions, lip fillers, shapewear, etc.) far more than men do. The amount of guys h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:28 AM
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I don't think it's contradictory, you can feel affection for someone without wanting to be sexually exclusive with them. Usually being a "boyfriend" entails sexual exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:26 AM
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Why else would women expect the relationship? They feel entitled to them, so they see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear to justify their expectation, and ultimately hurl vitriol at guys who refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:25 AM
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sigma comment tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:21 AM
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I didn't call anyone a liar, except for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:20 AM
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This is a credit to women, who have earned more, become more educated, and worked out. Men still earn more than women do. And although both American men and women are pretty fat, the women are more obese than the men(when measured by waist circumference or directly measuring body fat). You're living in a fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:31 AM
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You realize that most women are fat too right? Arguably more obese than men when we measure by things like waist circumference or directly measuring body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:02 AM
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Rarely do I see a couple out together who isn't looks matched. Beauty is normative, and women wear overwhelmingly wear makeup and use other superficial cosmetic enhancements far more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:00 AM
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You're the greatly exaggerating the prevalence of these things, with the exception of maybe "sexual harassment", but in practice women define that as "ugly guy approaching me".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:58 AM
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Did she ask or did you bring it up out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:53 AM
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Ok, how would someone know whether you'd be a good partner or not? Most people would say that they are a good partner, don't expect that to be taken at face value......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:12 PM
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I have a really hard time that of the massive amount of attention and interests the average woman gets, few/none of those men are interested in relationships. Most men have relationships, most men can't easily be "fuckboys" because they're not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:17 PM
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Why does that automatically make me a bad partner? Not necessarily, but promiscuous women are more likely to report cheating and tend to have worse outcomes in committed relationships and marriages: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xqbfyi/not_only_is_past_promiscuity_a_good_predictor_of/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:14 PM
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If you live in an area that's mostly white or black Why would you assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:12 PM
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Yes please look at the Pew one for the percentage who made equal to their partner and combine the two figures. januaryphilosopher claimed that "There's a substantial portion of married couples where women are higher earners". I was responding to her. So why would I include the "egalitarian" couples? And they have a broad definition of "egalitarian". A man who makes 30-50% more than his partner would be included in that category, which is a pretty substantial disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:15 AM
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And how would you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:57 AM
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Some of these are quoting a poll by "TD Ameritrade" but they don't actually link it so we have no idea how they are defining the "same or more". Is a 55/45 split the "same? What about a 60/40 split? 65/35? The Pew one is better, but it found that only 16% of married women were the sole or primary earner. The "egalitarian" couples (60/40 disparity or less) are not broken down by which person earns more exactly. Women are expected to overtake men as the higher earner in the average household withi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:54 AM
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Why would we exclude Latinos.....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:51 AM
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I don't know where you're getting your stats from. The average height of young men in the US is around 5'9" according to the CDC. A 5'11" man is around the 70th percentile for height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:23 AM
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All women are sluts for the right man. If she's making you wait chances you aren't really the "right man".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:20 AM
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How could anyone know that if they don’t try? There's this thing called a "divorce lawyer". My ex Ok, I don't care. That's just one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:45 AM
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The onus is on the person making the claim to prove it. There are tons of different statistics on earnings in families. I have no idea which one you are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:22 AM
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um indentured servitude is perfectly acceptable because they signed a contract sweaty 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:11 AM
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Show me the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:10 AM
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both parents agree for the mother to be the custodial parent. Do men agree because they want it, or because they are unlikely to get joint custody and don't want to fight it too hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:09 AM
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I never liked the wording that women take "half your stuff" in a divorce. Marriage involves combining assets going forward, so usually anything obtained prior to the marriage is yours alone. And it's not as if most women don't contribute financially at all, they just contribute significantly less than men do. But yeah, men arguably still do tend to lose out in divorce for that reason, but describing it as "losing half your stuff" is hyperbolic. So they go after these women with very little money…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:08 AM
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"Just be a celebrity bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:24 PM
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Find the women who find Chad unpleasant All ten of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:37 PM
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JFL if you think letting a woman cut you in line or helping random women out is going to help a guy get laid. And you said that this is just "treating women like people". If this is how people should be treated then why shouldn't women treat men the same way? Why are you only telling men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:18 PM
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Why aren't you telling women to let men go first if there's any confusion, or to offer help to men 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:15 PM
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Holding doors and making eye contact, letting her go in front of you in line when there’s a confusion, smiling, saying thank you and offering help. Women want to be treated as people. Women want special treatment. FTFY. What you described is special treatment. Letting someone cut you in line? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:09 PM
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If you're leading then by definition you're not equal ultimately she’s letting you make the decisions and it becomes more about trust than “be the boss” A lot of the time that's how leadership works
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:21 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/18/girls-better-grades-boys-may-teacher-bias/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:09 AM
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Yall mean the thing where men run around dating crazy hot broads as teenager Damn, I never knew that dating crazy hot broads was so easy, and any guy could do it if they wanted to. That's real as fuck. How would you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:51 AM
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“Bringing religion back to the forefront of society would solve most issues with respect to hypergamy, hookup culture, and the i-cel epidemic.” TRP may agree with that in principle but the cat's out the bag now and they're more focused on making the best of our current situation. And the suggested strategy is antithetical to this: men should avoid serious commitment and especially marriage. I’m not going to totally disagree and say a lot of women don’t like the “bad boy” type. But I think a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:45 AM
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I have the highest sex drive of anyone I've met and never felt like men and women have control and power over me because of it. Because it's far easier for a woman to find male sexual partners than it is for a man to find female sexual partners. So men can't use their sexuality as a tool of control the same way that women can. We high libido women can manage it. Because you can find a sex partner literally any time you want. Men don't have that luxury. The guy I'm seeing has a very high libido b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:55 AM
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You can drink at 21. You can drink at 16-18 virtually everywhere other than the US. You can rent a car at 25. That's at the discretion of rental car companies, it's not something codified in law. You can still be a child and have gone through puberty (most girls finish puberty by 14-16). Most people would call someone that age a teenager/adolescent, not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:52 AM
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You're describing a traditionalist man, not TRP. Most RP guys aren't that interested in committed relationships. But if they are going to have one, they don't want to be chosen because of what they can do for her. They want to be chosen out of raw attraction. So there's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:42 AM
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Housing usually costs the most out of all essential expenses, a disparity large enough to cover housing for a couple or a family of three is not "small". The median personal income is less than 50k in the US. 16k is a lot to the majority of Americans. If most people got a 16k raise they would be jumping with joy. I would bet money that you and/or your male partner earn a lot more than that and you're just not aware of your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:21 AM
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Not really no, or at least not prior to 2018/2019 when many tradcons started pouring into TRP. The lifestyle that TRP promotes is about as far from "tradcon" as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:17 AM
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16k a year is a lot of money for most Americans. It's enough to rent a 1bd if not a 2bd apartment almost anywhere in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:30 AM
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How much do you make per year? How much does your husband/boyfriend make per year?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:06 AM
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In the example I gave the disparity was 16k, not 12k, are you retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:52 AM
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How quickly? Do you have any data to support that assertion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:51 AM
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Okay, good for you. Couples like yours are still a very small minority, it makes no sense to hyperfocus on the 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:45 AM
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He's probably experienced a far higher rate of rejection than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:31 AM
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So according to the data, men earn significantly more in half of all marriages? That's pretty damn significant. Also, Pew is defining an "egalitarian" marriage as 60/40 or less or less. I don't know about you, but if the disparity was 42k vs 58k I'd call that pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:29 AM
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I wasn't talking about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:22 AM
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I think you misspelled "women" in the title. From dating apps to matchmaking services, there's an entire industry dedicated to pairing people up. The consumer mindset has invaded the dating world, both men and women are constantly encouraged to "shop around" for the perfect partner. FTFY As a result, both men and women feel pressure to present their "best selves" online, leading to unrealistic expectations and a never-ending quest for the "perfect" partner FTFY with wealthy good-looking men havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:54 AM
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I've seen people here blame: -The dating 'market' (because no one else is in relationships, apparently) -the media! -other gender's standards are 'too high' -f3minism! Are they wrong? Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:50 AM
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You need to believe that other men are walking around miserable. Of course there are miserable people in this world, are you retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:22 AM
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most red flairs here aren't representative of TRP https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12j0wb6/what_is_red_pill/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:06 AM
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Oh... you're new to metal detecting boomers be tripping i stg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:05 AM
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"met online" doesn't necessarily mean "met on a dating app" In all likelihood it does mean that they did't really know each other. If it's not a swipe app then it would be sliding into someone's insta DMs. And I've been basically asked out by guys because I've been around hobby based groups online. You're old and weird then. Most young people don't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:55 PM
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What race/ethnicity were they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:50 PM
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redpill =/= tradcon
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:49 PM
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I know they are happy people Right, I guess you can tell how someone feels about their life just by occasionally interacting with them. I guess men aren't conditioned to keep their unhappy thoughts to themselves. You think you know everything but really you don't know jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:43 PM
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Casual sex is something that has never been normal for all men to partake in. I never said that it was, but casual sex isn't the only kind of sex, and regardless of whether most men actually had a lot of sex or not, the desire still exists in most. Men having a high sex drive is one of the few things that most psychologists agree on. Hyper-fixation can be anything. It can be trains, or the itch in your pants. Human males did not evolve to like trains anywhere near the same extent that they evolv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:38 PM
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Again, you have no way of knowing how many guys here are autistic. There are far more people on the spectrum than there are people with those disabilities, and I think that many people who have absolutely crippling conditions like those would be far more fixated on those problems than sex and love. But the vast majority of people are not that severely disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:33 PM
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video games are for weird incels now i'm going to spend ten hours binging netflix teehee
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:01 PM
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You don't need a degree to know hyper-fixation is a main symptom of autism. It's not "hyper-fixation", it's a normal male behavioral drive that isn't being satisfied. Virtually every trait organisms possess evolved to facilitate reproduction in one way or another, that's what natural selection is. Why do you seem so surprised? Do you know any sexless men that are genuinely okay with it? And if you do, do you know if they masturbate or watch porn regularly? I know that men talk about how friggen …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:58 PM
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What do those stand for and what's the relevance to my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:55 PM
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Something like half of new couples met online according to Stanford research, it's quickly becoming dominant. And it's not like approaching in bars and clubs is that much easier. It all boils down to women being brutally selective with regards to appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:47 PM
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but i really do think that’s the only way you’ll get someone you’d truly he happy with spending lots of time with, you probably will have less hookups and flings, but you’ll genuinely be trying to find a connection more. Men are far more independent and less social than women are, plenty of men are satisfied by casual sex. What makes you think that you know other people better than they know themselves. what i’m saying is these two aren’t personality traits, they’re not even hobbies tbh - they’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:39 PM
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I think sexual frequency is far more relevant to sexual ability than partner count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:55 PM
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If it was mutually enjoyable then you would be together regardless of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:54 PM
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What other reason is there for the incredibly high percentage of autistic guys here Another armchair psychologist 🥱 When all else fails, w*men always default to personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:34 PM
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Truly spoken like a woman. You simply don't understand the male sex drive. It's only especially bad for autistic guys because they don't get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:33 PM
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man if you went so far as to mention sex and being the bottom you fruity as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:21 PM
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rare simp W if not fake
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:09 PM
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I could 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:08 PM
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Women initiate most divorces. It's easier for women than men because they earned less and come out on top when assets are split, and are more likely to get primary custody of children while the man gets turned into a child support paying ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:05 PM
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better get that hair transplant ASAP boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:03 PM
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I don't think most people, especially men, will dump their partners on a whim. And frankly I think most issues in marriages are not merely temporary spats that can be genuinely resolved, but rather symptoms of women's deep-seated lack of attraction to their husbands. AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:59 PM
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bro's balls are working in overdrive 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:55 PM
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Just because a contract was entered into willingly doesn't mean it can't be problematic. Would you say the same thing about indentured servitude? People willingly do things that are bad for them all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:55 PM
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You said "virgins" specifically, I wasn't talking about that. Frankly all this discussion surrounding virgins is weird, the vast majority of people lose their virginity by their early 20s. A girl who has only had sex with one or two long-term boyfriends is definitely "low-N" and couldn't be further from a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:53 PM
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Men already jerk off regularly. Not enough. They need to learn self control You can't wish away behavioral drives derived from billions of years of natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:51 PM
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A significant minority aren't when they are young and can't betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:47 PM
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Men's sex drive really is their Achilles' Heel. It enables women to have so much power and control over them, and often times leech off of them and screw them over. If you're not getting laid regularly, you need to jerk off regularly, with or without porn. Simping would virtually disappear in a fortnight if men were constantly in permanent state of post-nut clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:46 PM
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shoot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:44 PM
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Jerk off a lot, that's what I do. Porn is optional. Some people say it's not good for you, I don't find the evidence really convincing, but then again there's not much evidence exonerating porn either. You don't really need it, I don't, so avoid it if you want to be one the "safe" side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:43 PM
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You don't need to be religious or feel shame surrounding sex to have a low n-count. Most women definitely want commitment, and some women just aren't interested in sex without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:41 PM
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I wouldn't care unless she was a literal prostitute or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:39 PM
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I would rather men stay with women of their own free will, instead of staying due to a contract that makes it hard for him to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:38 PM
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F in the chat for our fallen soldier
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:35 PM
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I read the study, first of all it was a 1 - 5 scale of likelihood of committing the act if there were no consequences, ranging from "not at all likely" to "very likely". I don't know what they counted as a "yes" response, they never specified, if I had to guess it would be anything higher than "not at all likely". The survey instrument also included "forcing a female to do something sexual that she does not want to do" right next to "rape", that could be very confusing to the reader, since they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:22 PM
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There is none because it's so easy to lie about it. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:13 PM
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and if the woman you’re attracting is your cookie cutter influencer wannabe type? Most women are more attracted to the type of man you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:09 PM
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Changing your behavior or appearance does not turn you into "someone else". and the worst part is this person you’re pretending to be is often so surface deep that if you’re one of the best looking pulling this off, you’ll likely attract the very type of girl you claim to be the problem (ie. vapid, materialistic, shallow, etc) So most girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:05 PM
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Got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:45 PM
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Have you ever considered considered the possibility that different people can have different life experiences.... Shocking I know. This is why empirical research is the best way to understand human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:34 AM
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Well I'm not just going to take your word for it. You've been throwing that figure around a lot, you should probably link the poll.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:33 AM
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Where are you getting that figure from? https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2017-11-16/payingondates1.png This YouGov poll found that 29% of female respondents expected men to pay and 37% answered that they expected that they expected the "initiator" to pay (overwhelmingly the man).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:46 AM
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Some men, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:38 AM
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It's far more socially acceptable for women to shame unattractive men for approaching than it is for straight to shame gay men for approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:38 AM
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Most of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:20 AM
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Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:20 AM
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A slight majority of marriages do not end in divorce. And you're missing the point, that's not mutually exclusive with exaggerating your grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:50 AM
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If that were true, we wouldn't be divorcing y'all at an 80% to 90% rate. Divorce rates are nowhere near THAT high. Exaggerating your grievances is not mutually exclusive with dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:42 AM
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Women are melodramatic and their "grievances" against men are by and large exaggerated. It's that simple. And with regards to looking for a husband specifically, well, there are proportionally far more wealthy men in the US than almost anywhere else in the world. Incomes tend to be higher and there is more income inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:38 AM
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The only group in RP strongly against marriage are MGTOW. Most of TRP was against marriage, and many were against cohabitation, at least before a bunch of tradcon dweebs started swarming in. If you accept most of TRP's conclusions on women (I think it's somewhat hyperbolic with a strong basis in truth), then any man with two brain cells to rub together will reject marriage. "Yeah almost half of marriage end in divorce, men have a lot to lose in divorce, women lose their sex drives in marriages, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:11 AM
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The Handmaids Tale including a scene of June forcing herself on Luke and hand-waving it away was a really, REALLY, bad look. And the actress is a Scientologist too, in a show about nutjob cults. What a fucking shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:33 AM
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It's not implausible for people to lie. I'd say that at least 1% of men have committed rape(and probably a comparable proportion of women) but if you surveyed 10000 men asking if they'd ever raped someone you'd probably get a lot fewer than 100 "yes" responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:31 AM
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Getting married, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:29 AM
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That's why a lot of the arguments in this sub are people arguing the validity of cited research. Usually the women and simps never even bother reading the research and just dismiss it out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:28 AM
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Like even when things aren't your fault, that doesn't matter, because we can't change other people, but we can change ourselves, and our perspective of the world, and how we act and behave to improve our own individual lives and relationships. Many men do take measures to make themselves more desirable, it's just that they focus on looks, status, and being less agreeable. But the women here don't like that and insist that doing those things won't help them. Not because they have much in the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:27 AM
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redpill/blackpill users often do link scientific research to support their views. but the women and simps here usually just dismiss it by saying something along the lines of "nuh uh that's not experience touch grass sweaty"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:24 AM
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so their forever changed bodies Change is not always for the worse. Most people don’t get divorced on average A significant minority do. Most people don’t get divorced on average, and if as a guy you’re really worried about it, prioritize being educated and marrying someone who is educated Easier to just avoid it altogether TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:04 AM
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Tits that have breastfed a baby are not the same as tits that have not Women wear bras the vast majority of the time, I doubt it matters that much. hell my hips are bigger postpartum Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Not to mention that when single, prospective partners are more likely to view a divorced mother with children as having baggage compared to a divorced man with children. True, but divorced mothers with children are generally far less interested in dating and sex. Men are less impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:35 AM
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More women earn more than their partners (20% of marriages) Where are you getting this from? And "earning more" can mean earning $500 more per year or earning $50 000 more per year. than men who pay alimony (10% of divorces, and there are more marriages than divorces). I listed alimony as one among many factors?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:48 AM
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That's from Germany, I have no idea what their family law is like. And continental european legal systems are based on civil law, which is fundamentally different from the common law systems in the Anglosphere. Judges have much less power and discretion and are therefore there's less room for discrimination. Also, women's loss in income could very well be their own doing, if they refuse to work even part-time after their kids are old enough to be going to school and stay home alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:34 AM
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Men dying before making kids. Sexual maturity in human males coincides with physical changes that make them much stronger and faster and enables them to accompany older males in dangerous tasks like hunting large game. By and large, prior to sexual maturity, males would not have been dying from things that didn't similarly affect females. Also, up until very recently in some countries, childbirth was a very dangerous affair for females. Countless have died giving birth throughout human existence…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:05 AM
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Women are significantly worse off than men after divorce In what way? You got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:59 PM
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Why isn't it relevant? I never said it was common, just pointing out that you can set boundaries without telling someone what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:59 PM
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Women stand to gain more from divorce than men do. Being controlling arguably doesn't have to be one-sided. Any measure intended to make it more difficult for your partner to leave you is "controlling" in the typical sense of the word, regardless of how it affects you. If a guy pressured a woman to have kids to "lock her down" you'd probably call that "controlling" even though it makes it harder for him to leave her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:08 PM
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You said it yourself that social/economic inequality is much lower in hunter gatherers, so what else could it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:02 PM
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It's not the marriage that makes things unequal, it's the salaries. That has absolutely nothing to do with a function of marriage. It has everything to do with marriage. Because when you get married, all money you earn and all assets you acquire going forward are shared. It makes it equally difficult for either party to leave the other. Answer my question. If a man pushed for marriage and/or kids because it would make it harder for a woman to leave him, would you call that controlling? I've defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:59 PM
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It wasn't a "view", it was just an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:57 PM
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Ok, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:24 PM
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divorce stats show and low birth and marriage rates show not so much any more Divorced women did get married at one point, and at least in the west they likely financially benefitted from the splitting of marital assets and possibly child support/alimony when they got divorced. Women might not want to stay married but they do want to get married. and low birth and marriage rates Is that due to women's hesitancy or men's? My money is in the latter because it's still generally women pushing for mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:13 PM
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Right, and women with controlling partners also choose to stay with them, so it's not problematic at all because they could just leave! Glad we had this discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:11 PM
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A man earning more or "having more to lose" is a function of his job, not marriage. And could and does just as easily apply to women. Very few women significantly outearn their male partners. Marriage controls both people eye equally. You've not proven your case. I added this after initially posting that comment: "And it doesn't have to be unilateral for it to be controlling. If you're trying to make it harder for them to leave you that's controlling regardless of whether what you're doing restr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:02 PM
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So when a man wants a way out it's being "noncommital" but when a woman wants a way out it's being "empowered" and "looking out for herself"? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:59 PM
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Men arguably have far more to lose in a divorce because men (especially men that are chosen for marriage) earn more and are less likely to get primary custody of children. And it doesn't have to be unilateral for it to be controlling. If you're trying to make it harder for them to leave you that's controlling regardless of whether it restricts you as well or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:56 PM
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How would you explain it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:55 PM
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So women don't want marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:54 PM
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Man's clearly never read TRP. They discourage men from doing certain things all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:49 PM
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Rare blue pill male W
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:47 PM
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Inequality explodes once men start farming. Yes I'm aware, but even prior to the Neolithic Revolution (advent of agriculture), far more women reproduced than men. Which points us to polygyny and/or cuckolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:46 PM
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It says that they're probably more controlling than the men they're accusing of being controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:45 PM
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You’re gonna pretend that patriarchies and conservatives arent the ones pushing for marriage the most? The extent of their involvement is extolling the virtues of marriage on Capital Hill. But in our day to day lives it's women that are the ones pushing for marriage. Also,a man who does whataboutism when accuse of having a personal flaw is a little bitch. I, personally, have never been accused of being "controlling" here. This comment was just pointing out the silly double standard that women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:31 PM
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By BMI no, but by other metrics like waist circumference and measured body fat, women are definitely more obese than men. BMI is a very rough way to gauge body fat because it doesn't account for muscle tissue, and men tend to be more physically active than women, and far more likely to do strength training which builds the most muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:29 PM
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Most women do and it speaks to their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:27 PM
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Offers to pay her share
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:18 PM
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Men invented “marriage” & “commitment” as a way to control WOMEN’s sexual/reproductive agency Do you think most women don't want commitment from their male sexual partners? At the very least, the vast majority of women on PPD don't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:09 PM
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What is this nonsense that only handsome men sleep with/ (“use”) women casually that they don’t view as LTR material ? Handsome men have more and better options. It makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:07 PM
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i will not take the pills i will not eat the bugs i will not live in the pod
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:05 PM
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Curious how women love to accuse men of being "controlling" but they are overwhelmingly the ones pushing for men to sign contracts that make it much harder for us to leave them. There's nothing more controlling than that. They think it's "strong" and "empowered" for a woman to keep an exit path open but when a man does the same thing he's "stringing her along", an "asshole", and "scared of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:03 PM
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rare married man W
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:39 PM
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you are a man telling her what to wear and how to behave online, which is controlling. Most people have behavioral expectations of their partners. You don't even need to tell someone to do something to set boundaries, I once heard a guy say something along the lines of "you can go to Miami to party if you want but I won't be your boyfriend when you get back".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:28 PM
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If resources are equally distributed, it's going to be a monogamy. Hunter-gatherer societies were probably far more egalitarian than our own, and yet something around four women reproduced for every man prior to the Neolithic revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:17 PM
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The woman will split the bills 50/50 Ha, in your dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:15 PM
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if she breathe.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:58 PM
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I feel sorry for your boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:48 PM
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I got plastic surgery on my ears and I own that shit FR
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:48 PM
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If you can pay for a dinner for two you should be out earning. What do you mean by this? Typo? Out earning who? It shouldn’t be costing to the point you are feeling of thinking about it. Dinner for two at a decent restaurant usually costs at least $100 in most urban and suburban areas. If the goal is to split just be up front and split. Not offering to pay if it's already split is less off-putting to women than asking to split. If it arrives split it puts the ball in her court, she has to either…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:25 PM
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So not paying for women makes a guy "broke" now? And obviously the point of doing this is so that you can split without her knowing that you wanted to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:18 PM
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Do you really want to date someone that you can't talk to because they won't like the conversation Sometimes the downsides of having a certain conversation outweigh the benefits. Many women on reddit have a strange belief that you should always be completely open about everything, I think that opinion shows a lack of tact and social awareness, traits typically associated with ASD. There will be much more difficult conversations than splitting a bill. Depends on how serious things get, or if you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:26 PM
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This would be an instant no for me. The point of doing this is so that the woman doesn't find out...... I have no issue paying for the entire date If this is true and not virtue-signaling then good for you, but most women certainly don't feel that way. but this shows a lack of maturity and inability to have a conversation about the importance of 50/50 to you Most men are perfectly capable of having the conversation, it's just that women don't like it when we bring it up because by and large, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:12 PM
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You see guys here who call themselves degenerates, whilst also calling themselves ugly - tell me, do they show themselves any empathy? They don't give a fuck about themselves. Like many people, you use the word "empathy" when you should be saying "sympathy". Empathy means understanding someone's perspective, not feeling bad for them or being kind. They don't take responsibility Is someone responsible for their height or facial bone structure? and instead say how they've been told they're ugly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:21 AM
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AF/BB and attraction is a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Even if a woman thinks you're good looking she's probably still going to want you to pay, at least early on, if for no other reason than wanting to save money and her knowing that most men are willing to pay. As a matter of fact I've rarely seen TRP advocate against paying on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:41 AM
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If she breathes It's not a "phase" it's a lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:33 AM
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They've reached the limit of immigrants they can pay to do it. By "limit", are you referring to the number of immigrants that are willing to come and work there as nurses, or the number of immigrants that being let in under immigration quotas?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:22 AM
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If she doesn't offer to pay half or at least say next time she'll pay she fails. Unfortunately, this would filter out most women. I have to give realistic advice here and most guys simply do not have that many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:11 AM
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This comment demonstrates a distinct lack of empathy. Every single trait in organisms evolved to facilitate reproduction, in one way or another. That's just natural selection. In human males, one of those traits is a strong sex drive. There's also the social aspect where being sexually desirable is considered an accomplishment for men, and sexually unsuccessful men are often subject to ridicule. Getting sex isn't going fix anything. You'll feel even more empty afterwards. And what makes you so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:08 AM
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There's a shortage because the government is undervaluing them and won't pay them more. Again, that's just a value judgement. Immigrants would be paid the same amount So they wouldn't have to pay them more? My point exactly. Also, you live in the UK. In the US, where most PPD users are from, nurses are paid really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:20 AM
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That's a bold and unfounded assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:15 AM
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Is there a shortage or is the government just cheap and not willing to shell out the money to hire more and pay them more? Or perhaps turning to cheaper immigrant labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:13 AM
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and these jobs are undervalued so tend to involve hard work for not enough pay "Undervalued" is just your personal value judgement. The fact is that they're paying for plenty of people to still be willing to work those jobs. Nurses are very well paid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:49 AM
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At least in the US, even enlisted personnel are very well compensated. While the base salary doesn't seem that high, remember that food, housing, and healthcare are all provided for the duration of the service so they barely have any expenses. And it's not like you're living in the bunk bed barracks you see in the movies, that's just in boot camp. Usually it's apartment dorm style housing, and many NCOs and cohabitating/married couples of any rank have the option of family housing(like a regular…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:46 AM
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Listen up boys, this is some big brain advice on how to smoothly split the bill on dates: https://youtu.be/xouLOlldWho?t=145 TL;DR get there early and ask the server for separate cheques before she gets there. Can't believe this advice isn't more widespread. I've also seen a post on TRP before suggesting something similar: you excuse yourself for a bathroom break, find the server, and ask him to bring separate cheques. I think the other one is better, but if you don't get there before her you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:32 AM
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Man's either trolling or tripping
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:18 AM
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No, it isn't....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:55 AM
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Whataboutism. I didn't ask him for a source because I've already seen research that supports his claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:48 AM
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Personally I've never talked of the man I like with anyone until it's something I believe to be really serious then yes I talk of them 24/7 to my girlfriends and sometimes we talk about if men in our friend group acquittances are hot or not, but generally not in a gross way. How would you feel if your male acquaintances were having a "hot or not" discussion involving you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:45 AM
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Can you link an article or research paper that supports your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:10 AM
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If it hasn't been too long since the child was born you can probably get it reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:30 AM
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I don't think he's talking about cheating, he's talking about not committing in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:24 AM
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It's also "in the nature" of men to kill other men who attempt to take their mates or food What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:23 AM
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I don't see many posts saying that women should lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:23 AM
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Because men are the approachers, generally speaking. There's nothing stopping ugly women from approaching men. But the ugly woman has to wait to be approached and sus out who just wants sex and who might possibly want a relationship Just tell them no sex until commitment then and don't go to each other's homes(and stick to it)..... And if ugly chicks stopped chasing chad (who has more and better options) it would also help them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:26 PM
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Ugly women get way more attention than ugly men and the odds are that some of those men giving her attention want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:40 PM
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Plenty of men have relationships with ugly chicks. It'd be hard to believe of all the matches on OLD and approaches in clubs/parties even fat/ugly chicks get, that almost none of them want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:37 PM
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Being approached by some men that want a relationship is still a hell of a lot better than the average guy's experience. And that's without even getting into making the first move herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:21 PM
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"However, the men who felt like winners had a 'self-perceived mate value' that was 6.53% higher, on average, than their rivals, and were 11.29% more likely to approach attractive women in an effort to instigate sexual relations." First of all, causality arguably goes the other way. Men with higher self-esteem are probably that way at least in part because they were more successful with women. And the important question is how women perceived them, and how successful they actually are with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:15 PM
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There's nothing. The comment you included your sources must have been the ones removed by the moderators. I'm not going to try and convince you of something you can easily verify for yourself I have, and I have come to the opposite conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:05 PM
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No you haven't......
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:59 PM
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Insane comment TBH. even fat chicks get plenty of attention from men, if they put themselves in the right settings or make an OLD profile. basic makeup, So ugly chicks who makeupfraud get dumped as soon as guys seen their bare faces? I don't think so. feminine clothing and hairstyle, That word barely has any meaning. Almost anything can be worn by women and still be considered feminine. Pants, shorts, jeans, business suits, t-shirts etc. Try going on dates as a man wearing a skirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:58 PM
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There's plenty of evidence for less agreeable men being more sexually successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:25 AM
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What happens, the former or the latter? And can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:01 AM
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Aren't values diffrent to everyone and their personal preferences as well? Yes but there's a lot of similarity in what people value. For instance, most people value a car more than an apple, so cars costs significantly more than an apple. Same logic applies to someone's "value" as a sexual/romantic partner. A short balding Indian janitor with a stutter and a recessed chin might be considered attractive by some woman, somewhere on this planet. But I think it's safe to say that the vast majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:57 AM
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Have they said that women are wrong to have the preferences they do? Or are they pointing out that women's preferences and the men they choose are contributing to their unhappiness and hostility towards men as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:00 AM
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Do you have any evidence for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:46 AM
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Haha, that was the science before they confirmed that wasn't gender based and most hunting parties were usually fairly represented in both communities. Where are you getting this from? Hunting is absolutely "gender-based" in virtually every single hunter-gather society that has been studied. While women may trap, gather, or hunt smaller animals, hunting larger animals is overwhelmingly done by males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:46 AM
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For example, men are evolutionarily programmed to be more visually oriented and to be most excited by novelty. Women are programmed to be more oriented around bonding and attachment, and to be more responsive to familiarity and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:24 AM
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In a word, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:22 AM
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Most Indian and East Asian dudes would be happy to date women of their own race. The problem is that their women don't want THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:21 AM
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Did you even read the post. The "top" men are contributing a helluva lot of money to the government's coffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:52 AM
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Women with all kinds of bodies get a lot of attention from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:51 AM
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Women do it in order to compete with other women for men Will a woman be an incel if she doesn't do these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:48 AM
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I've heard a lot of women complain about having to take so much time to get ready for events because they're expected to put in an insane amount of effort to look "presentable" What makes you think that's referring to makeup? How often do women get told to wear makeup or get reproached for not wearing makeup? for example i've heard LOTS of guys saying they wouldnt date a woman with stretch marks or cellulite or scars or whatever, That's just an anecdote. How many women with those blemishes are r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:47 AM
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Never said that. Just that they tend to screw us over in cohabitating relationships and marriage. If you avoid those they're not a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:28 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:56 PM
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tee hee
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:59 AM
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50/50 from unequal resources didn't make sense. Why not? Why should he subsidize you just because you're less successful? You don't consume less just because you earn less. You realize saying "he earns more so he should pay more" is asking him to pay for your living expenses, right? After denying up and down that women are leeching of us, you're advocating for it. Unless he wants to live a lifestyle that's beyond your means, or if you're okay doing most or all of the housework, there's no reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:31 AM
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50/50 doesn't make sense when there's disparity. So you deny that women feel entitled to have men pay for things but then immediately go on to say that you don't support a 50/50 split, when women overwhelming pick men that earn more for long-term relationships.....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:46 AM
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I appreciate you highlighting the wage gap. The disparity in earnings between all childless young men/young women, as opposed to just those that are married/cohabitating, is much smaller. If your partner earned 30k more than you, would you want to go 50/50? I don't know, if elephants started falling from the sky what would I do? No point in thinking about things that won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:40 AM
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"Less agreeable"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:50 AM
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My social experience is different from yours. How do we know who's right? This is the problem of relying too much on "common sense", in this case it's just your own personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:50 AM
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The majority don't. Bullshit. How many women do you think are okay splitting roughly 50/50 on expenses? Every time it comes up the women here sure as hell aren't. They just phrase it as "the person who earns more should pay well" knowing full well that women overwhelmingly select higher earning men for long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:48 AM
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Honestly, to show people that women aren't so great, shut down critics, and hopefully encourage more young men to avoid seriously committing to or, god forbid, marrying one. And also to inform young men what really matters for success with women(looks and being an asshole to an extent) so they can actually improve their sex and love life, instead of struggling because they're taking dumb bluepill advice motivated by a desire to protect womens' reputation instead of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:43 AM
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"Yes, 100%. An attractive man who’s an asshole might be able to find a woman willing to make an exception for him because of his looks. But he’s not going to be pulling healthy, stable, sane women. Asshole men tend to date asshole women (or women who have a tolerance for abuse, which generally gets learned from previous abuse as children.) How would he know this? Does he think douchebag frat boys are only pulling a tiny minority of women? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:36 AM
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Some jobs pay health care for employees. Why assume that men are paying that much more than women? Taxes are different at 80k and 110, especially for single tax filers. The difference in marginal federal income tax rate for the former and latter brackets is tiny, 22% vs 24%. And many states have no income tax or a flat rate income tax. Not all women feel entitled to "have men pay for things". The majority do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:35 AM
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I never said you "need" to do anything. The point of this post was to show how strongly women select for earnings in long-term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:31 AM
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multiple studies support this Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:24 AM
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Did you ignore the end of my post? I specifically included analyses for high income married/cohabitating households(>150k) and the earnings disparity between those men and women is even more stark. It's not just the "bottom rung of the ladder".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:22 AM
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You're talking gross numbers before taxes, healthcare, and retirement. Which both will have to pay...... They certainly aren't "leeching off" differences..... Usually their partners will be paying more than them for expenses because they earn more. Hell, sometimes even when they're earning basically the same. Women feel entitled to have men pay for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:18 AM
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bad test, half the questions are about working out. none about face or height. face and height > muscle tall and skinny with good face > gymcel
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:15 AM
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First of all for married couples the disparity is 15k and there are a lot more of those, why focus on only cohabitating couples? Secondly when you're only earning a little over 30k(mean income for cohabitating women in my analysis), 10k more is a lot more. 30% more. You probably have a skewed perspective due to your own socioeconomic background. Woman stand to gain a lot from cohabitating or marrying a guy who earns that much more than them. I specifically included analyses for high-income house…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:09 AM
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I don't think so Even if we don't filter for cohabitation/marriage, young men's mean income still outstrips young women by a little bit. Same case when we filter for people who aren't in a household WITHOUT a cohabitating/married couple
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:05 AM
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There are forms of love other than romantic love. Few people would say that heterosexual people can feel romantic love for members of the same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:45 AM
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made him take the Chad test Link
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:45 AM
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Sure, obviously men are more suited to certain things and women are more suited to certain things. Women are generally better caregivers for instance. In that respect I have an opinion on gender roles. That doesn't mean I think women SHOULD lead a certain lifestyle, such as being a wife and mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:08 AM
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What makes you think I'm interested in prescribing any kind of lifestyle for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:11 AM
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It's not a small amount for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:09 AM
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I don't know, gifts and inheritance from parents? Inheritance from a spouse(men die younger)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:47 PM
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Maybe you just earn a lot . $800 a month is enough to comfortably feed two people in most places. And the disparity was 15k for married couples in the main analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:45 PM
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Do you have an example of what "leeching off men" looks like? Literally the data analyzed in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:30 PM
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In a perfect world I'd want women to be decent and not leech off of men but I might as well be talking to a brick wall there. So instead I'd rather tell guys to never simp and never let women leech off of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:27 PM
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If you don't earn a lot, women don't want to marry or cohabitate with you. That article is absolutely horrific. They're saying single, childless, women earn more than their male counterparts when the federal reserve article they link is discussing wealth (net worth), not income, or earned income. Only a retard would confuse income and net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:22 PM
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If he's making significantly less then probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:21 PM
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I've never asked that question, nor do I want women to be "traditional".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:19 PM
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Good for you if you think that a man who earns less than you is still "pulling his weight". I don't think most women feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:59 PM
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Women who want children have a very unique approach to the workforce. You mean leeching off of their male partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:56 PM
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Clearly all these PPD women claiming that they make more than their boyfriends/husbands and are okay with it are unrepresentative of women as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:54 PM
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Not really, many Latina and Asian ladies will do all that for less than 15 dollars an hour. And losing a breadwinner is far worse than losing a homemaker. Without a homemaker your house might be a little dirtier, your meals might be simpler, you might eat out or order in more, and your kids will be less supervised (not entirely convinced this one is a bad thing, helicopter parenting is very real). Not the end of the world. Without a breadwinner you will be homeless and starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:51 PM
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How many people move in with their fuck buddy? The average income disparity between ALL childless men and women(without filtering for marriage/cohabitation) is actually significantly smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:49 PM
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Good afternoon I hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:43 PM
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I don't know, maybe something called pulling your weight in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:43 PM
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Why would I account for that? Women aren't caring for children before they actually have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:39 PM
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Like women who make that comparison, I'm talking about "children" with regards to both age and familial ties(minor children if you will), not with regards to familial ties alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:38 PM
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Genetic research has revealed that most Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have a significant amount of European ancestry. And DNA extracted from Bronze Age Levantine skeletons has revealed that they are more closely related to modern Palestinians than Israeli Jews. Culture, religion, and ethnic self-identification are often not congruous with actual ancestry due to intermarriage and assimilation. For instance, Anatolian Turks and Hungarians speak languages of central Asian origin but they are phenoty…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:30 PM
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PPD bitches who compare male breadwinners that don't do much around the house to children and their female partners to their mothers: How many children have you seen that outearn their mothers. Women simply don't appreciate the sacrifices that men make to provide for their families. Vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:27 PM
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Very smart of you to take the L 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:49 AM
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From the pubmed article: Anne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:43 AM
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Good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:34 AM
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Yeah I always see female "friends" leech off guys TBH. They're always buying them shit, paying for stuff, doing favors for them, etc, and the hoes barely reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:32 AM
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Yes that's what I've been asking you to do....... I want to examine the studies you're getting this figure from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:30 AM
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Link the study.....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:05 AM
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As with most things, different studies give different figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:03 AM
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Virtually all humans fit neatly into the two sex categories, male and female. An incredibly small number do not. Nearly 2% of the population has an intersex trait. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:01 AM
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Is pity sex real?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:45 AM
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Female family members are generally far less interested in controlling and manipulating you to begin with, unless you're a child obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:46 PM
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Sexual attraction is a prerequisite for romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:45 PM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:09 PM
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Women would lose almost their power over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:35 PM
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Women arent getting tipsy and claiming rape, if a normal woman regrets some drunken hook up they just keep it a secret and erase it from their memory. "x to doubt". Also someone can be drunk enough to black out and lose their memory but still be lucid and aware in the present. Typically the former happens before the latter. If they have consensual sex and she wakes up next to a stranger, remembering little to nothing, she might assume the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:23 PM
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These days most women are graduating university, working serious jobs and often making as much or more than their partner. This is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:16 PM
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Riding in an automobile can also result in death, not sure what your point is. There's risk to almost everything, doesn't mean it's a big risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:56 PM
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Sometimes they are awake, sometimes they are asleep, sometimes they are going inbetween. I'm not talking about someone who's drunk to the point of losing their basic faculties, awareness, and consciousness. They say no 10 times it’s fine because they are so drunk they forget they have said no and are easy to disorientate. ‘ If you refuse and they ignore it then that's rape regardless of intoxication. I'm talking about consensual drunken hookups. Hell, often times the woman is actually the initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:16 AM
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A consensual drunken hookup is not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:06 AM
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Pregnancy and childbirth in of itself does not "ruin your body". Women just let themselves go after having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:55 AM
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How many people under 25 do you think use Facebook for anything other than networking and keeping in touch with old friends? The closest thing would be sliding into someone's Instagram DMs but I would hardly call that "meeting through friends". Bars and restaurants are one of the places where social circles happen The categories in the survey were not mutually exclusive, a response could be coded as multiple categories. If a couple met through friends in a bar/restaurant setting it would be code…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:41 AM
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Once again, you make more than the vast majority of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:24 AM
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Women complain about tons of things that don't involve a gun being held to their head. They cry rape after drunken hookups they regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:23 AM
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So how did we go from this: The most people who care about earning trajectories in life that I’ve met, have been men. To this: If you were a highly physically attractive man, you’d have much more success at a woman taking care of you ? How many "highly physically attractive men" do you think are out there? The internet. It’s all over there. It used to be 42% and it’s now 49% Just because a statistic is all over the internet doesn't mean it's accurate. That article cites an NBC/WSJ poll which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:17 AM
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that they’d so much rather be someone that stays home and the woman provides for them And I'd much rather be a billionaire, but I'm not, am I? Did you think most men enjoy working their asses off? No, it's a sacrifice they make for their families, and it goes unappreciated too often. As of right now, 49% of U.S. women are the primary breadwinners. Where are you getting this figure from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:49 AM
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That's just your limited experience and it couldn't be further from representative. Virtually all available sociological research indicate that women care far more about wealth and earnings in a long term partner than men do. And women are far more likely to receive alimony than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:18 AM
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and coincidentally men are also more interested in having sex, which is how babies are made and women are forced to suffer the birth and on average have lower sex drives due to having less testosterone. You're neglecting to mention that men, almost universally, are less involved in childrearing than women. For most of human existence genetic paternity testing didn't exist so paternity was never even certain. Just because men are interested in sex doesn't mean they actually desire having kids and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:15 AM
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Well I keep saying that social circles actually work well Around 40% new couples met online according to a Stanford study, and another 27% met in a "bar or restaurant". You're old and out of touch. https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_et_al_Disintermediating_Friends.pdf A lot of guys just prefer to be leeches. This is coming from the sex that expects guys to pay for everything They leeched off mom and dad And women don't? they leech off their friends by doing very little to contribute in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:08 AM
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because they’re more likely to be married or in a committed relationship ? Yes as I said it's called betabuxxing Women are less likely to want committed relationships or marriage with young men because young men don't have as much money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:00 AM
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Because that doesn’t make sense. Average is subjective, one person’s average is not the other persons. There is a significant degree of overlap in what women find attractive. "Average" in this sense essentially means the men whose mean ranking is middling if every single woman ranked every single man's appearance in a given population. A lot of dudes are single because they are not around many women, they don’t know how to talk to women, they don’t have viable options in their area, maybe don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 04:05 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:46 AM
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I don't think "average" guys are incel per se but they are struggling. Something like 30% of 18-24 year old guys had no sex in the past year according to the GSS prior to COVID, and another 10% or so reported only having sex once or twice. Of course it's lower for older guys but that's probably just betabuxxing. If they weren't good enough for women when they were young but suddenly good enough when they are older and have more money, well.......
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:25 AM
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I thought Red Pill guys were all about wanting to be providers https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/12j0wb6/what_is_red_pill/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:23 AM
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it's meant to make a woman think less of herself and seek the approval of the person attacking her self esteem. Again, if something as mild as a neg hurts your self-esteem that much then you have issues. to achieve an end result that a woman would not consent to if those men were not being abusive and were honest about their intentions. But they did consent and that's what matters. There are countless "what-ifs" that could result in a woman not wanting to have sex with you. If you have to concea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:58 AM
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in order to both lower her self esteem Slightly, yes. You're living in a fantasy world if you think women are going to jump into bed with any guy that negs them. It's supposed to build on existing attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:30 AM
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Negging is supposed to be a light and playful roast/backhanded compliment. If your self-esteem is completely ruined by a neg then you got issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:22 AM
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ok boomer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:37 AM
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They use psychological manipulation Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:37 AM
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A pick-up artist of some kind, basically, he sees women as trophies and objects for his use and abuse. How are PUAs abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:11 AM
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It's pretty hard to "control" or "subjugate" women when you aren't married to or cohabitating with them. Hell, most of them are barely interested in making women be sexually exclusive with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:22 AM
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If you think TRP advocates for "controlling" and "subjugating" women you clearly haven't read it, or my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:20 AM
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yeah there was an influx of tradcel copers a few years back You want fun without being locked down? buying sexual services is cringe tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:06 AM
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If they're upfront about being hoes, like onlyfans chicks or strippers, I don't care. It's clearly transactional, if you buy their services you're fully responsible. I think it's actually worse when regular women look for beta bucks, because they're dishonest and have ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:01 AM
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Meanwhile, men here have 0 problems insulting guys for being feminine and vulnerable. A lot of guys don't insult them but they would still encourage these men to become more masculine, lift, etc. I clicked on a few of those. One is a inspirational self-improvement video, one is anti-simping, I don't think those count as "insulting guys for being feminine and vulnerable".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:58 PM
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That's fair, I probably won't have kids either but it seems like it would nice to have son.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:54 PM
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boomer never misses 💯
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:52 PM
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It's not necessarily exclusive to dating. Nah, it's absolutely focused on sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:51 PM
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don’t wanna pay for no kids Do your parents want grandkids? You could just make them do the heavy lifting, you provide some $ and spend time doing fun things with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:49 PM
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what's the difference grandpa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:46 PM
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I would freeze your sperm beforehand, I'm pretty sure I don't want kids but I'm still going to freeze mine before getting snipped. It's always good to have that option in case you change your mind. Having kids with a woman might not be a good idea, but maybe if I get wealthy enough I'll have one via surrogacy and be a single dad. Hell, if human cloning becomes available maybe I could raise my own clone and we could be like Jango and Boba Fett 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:40 PM
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Tradcons are tools tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:33 PM
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I would say they are dudes revenge fantasy about getting back at the ladies who rejected them or broke their heart. That you'll see they will be the richest hottest most cut alpha man you have ever seen. This explanation is unconvincing. Most men want to sexually successful irrespective of previous rejection and heartbreak. You don't see men who have positive relationships with women getting into red pill. Depends, a lot of playboys actually have a similar worldview to TRP they just don't call i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:28 PM
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the redpill is pro trad marriage/commitment if you can get it Unless you move to a traditional country and stay there, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:25 PM
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Rollo Tomassi got married to his wife in 1996, more than a decade before he would publish the Rational Male. Don't really know much about the others. Many self-identified redpillers were already married by the time they discovered TRP, indeed, marriage difficulties may have driven them towards it. That's why r/marriedredpill exists, to help men cope with marriage. I don't think most of them would advocate for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:04 PM
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Sluts don't necessarily give it out to everybody tbf Due to the sheer volume of interest that women get from men, it's not hard to be a slut and still have high physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:47 PM
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I don't ever recall incels talking about phrenology or it being mentioned on the incel wiki. Making a young uninitiated mind believe that his looks are supposedly of the kind which totally reduces his chances of ever being successful in dating is called a manipulation and a brainwashing. Is being told that if a guy is 5'3 and under means he has zero chance in dating? And let's not forget that height has long been surpassed. It is now at 5'8. Care to explain how this is logical? I don't think all…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:45 PM
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Can you tell me what you think might be wrong with what he did? Not sure. The incel wiki does include links to many research papers that support their views. Not saying I agree with them on everything or even most things, but it's a hell of a lot better than what you guys have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:34 PM
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No one's bitter here. Some of us are just smart enough to not take people's claims online at face value, especially when those claims just so happen to vindicate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:32 PM
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I say this because while we mean well and try to reason with logic You "reason" with unverifiable anecdotes. Redpill and blackpill use far more research to support their beliefs than their critics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:30 PM
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I don't get the raging hate boner some guys here have for sluts. Yeah, they are more likely to cheat and less suited for serious relationships, but that doesn't make them bad people. It's not as if all or even most of them cheat. Just live your life and don't get in serious relationships with them. If they're living rent free in your head I think you're probably just bitter that you're not getting any. edit: on second thought you don't really know who is a slut and who isn't, and non-sluts can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:28 PM
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You don't need to marry or cohabitate to be in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:23 PM
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But they wouldn’t sing his praises to strangers Maybe they would if they felt personally attacked by RP's characterization of women and wanted to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:23 PM
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LOL My husband is the sexiest man Ive ever met Okay, I don't care. Also, my friends who got married in their mid 30s are in the healthiest marriages. Again, I don't care. That's just your friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:22 PM
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But aren't a lot of these red pill gurus married? Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:21 PM
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If a guy said those things that would probably make her even angrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:47 PM
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Most women who dislike their husbands would be loath to admit it. That's all I will say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:45 PM
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It all makes sense when you realize that most redpillers know that deep down they themselves are those beta men that women will take to the cleaners in a divorce. If you don't get married, cohabitate, or spend too much money on women, then you are not the "beta" in the RP dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:45 PM
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(Alleged) alphas get married, their wives get sick of them (and vice versa), and they get cleaned out in divorce all the time. First of all TRP defines being an "alpha" not only in terms of looks but also behavior. For one, an "alpha" to them does not like commitment. Getting married probably makes you less "alpha" in their eyes. Secondly, I'm sure it happens to more attractive married guys too but I doubt it's as likely compared to a less attractive guy who was chosen only for his money/stabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:43 PM
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I don't need women to cook for me tbh, I'm probably a better cook than most of them except for baking. I've been cooking for me and my dad since I started living with him at 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:04 PM
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Yeah it really is interesting how little fabric a lot of chicks wear these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:00 PM
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or is the main issue when she’s less affectionate and sexual with her later partner compared to her earlier ones? Yes. The important thing, IMO, is being genuinely liked by women, as opposed to being used by them. Usually women demonstrate this sexually, but there are other ways, such as texting you a lot, planning dates, offering to split or pay on dates, doing favors for you, spending money on you, etc. If, hypothetically, a woman made a guy wait for sex but displayed genuine interest in other…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:51 PM
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If it was a rental it would be different. But he owns the house. Do you not understand the concept of oppurtunity cost? If she wasn't living there he could rent it out to someone else. I own a condo and I'm renting out the second bedroom right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:47 PM
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Parents arguably have a greater duty of care towards their children than a boyfriend does towards his girlfriend. After all, the relationship is supposed to be "equal", isn't it? Or do you only support equality when it suits you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:15 PM
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Lucky you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:14 PM
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Same goes for men's housework. I doubt you would call women entitled for being angry when their male partners don't do as much housework as they'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:13 PM
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We don't like dating men who make or accomplish less than us because we don't like being a target outlet for your fragile masculinities. Every time I have dated down, they get insecure about my accomplishments, especially when I am congratulated in public. They will always try to "put me in my place" with devaluing and negging comments. Not only that, but if they are less accomplished it usually means they have lower intelligence. And God forbid we help them or stop them from making a mistake or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:12 PM
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If you own a home and your GF is moving in with you, would it be fair to charge her rent? If so, how much? I think about half of the market rental price is a good rule of thumb. I'm a landlord, and rent isn't based on how much money you need to cover the mortgage and other property-related expenses, it's based on the rental market. Maybe less than half for a larger home that would be excessive for two people, like a 3bd or 4bd. Diminishing returns and whatnot. She would probably be paying a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:54 AM
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Every young man I know has heard about the red pill. Maybe the men you know are disproportionately manosphere aware. people wave red pill banners at Trump Rallies. Conservative political movements use that term in a different sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:34 AM
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I would not say that the men that earned less treated me badly The other user essentially called them bad partners and you agreed, I don't feel like nitpicking over semantics. Men still refuse to step up and be the primary parent. And how would you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:33 AM
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Some men do, or over cooking, sex, childcare, etc Sex is fundamental to relationships Most do nothing, and then get angry and complain when the woman leaves them for it, Most married men earn significantly more than their wives Just because he's not contributing to the household in the same way doesn't mean he isn't contributing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:31 AM
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Do many or most men actually get angry when women don't do as much around the house as they'd like? Or do they simply just not do that much around the house, and if the woman doesn't do it then it doesn't get done?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:39 AM
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What's the difference? How would a woman who "expects" a breadwinner act differently from a woman who "prefers" one? How would a man who "expects" a homemaker act differently from a man who "prefers" one?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:34 AM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:30 AM
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Entitlement for things to be the same in relationships Are women also entitled when they seek men that earn more than them for serious relationships, and ultimately marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:27 AM
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I blame both. In what world is someone exonerated because society enables bad behavior? I doubt you would say that for other bad behaviors that are or were enabled by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:23 AM
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why do women anecdotally lose all their sexual appetite in LTRs and marriages, even with so-called “alphas” Do they? If he continues to display his alpha qualities and makes only one “concession” of agreeing to that LTR, does that automatically make him unattractive beta Some people claim that, I don't really agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:19 AM
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A nerodivergent women is never going to be a Stacey unless she has BPD or dependency disorder, which is what the red pill filters for. Women don't need to be "stacey" to get a lot of attention from men and most men have never even heard of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:18 AM
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Male entitlement continues to linger Entitlement in what sense? resulting in delayed/decreased marriage What does "male entitlement" have to do with this? marriage and reproduction and educational underperformance The more compliant sex is better at sitting still for long periods of time and doing what they're told? What a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:12 AM
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Well, now women can pay their own bills. So the demand for commitment is decreased dramatically. when I could instead be financially independent and super hot and promiscuous with lots of attention from men? You're contradicting yourself. Do you want commitment or not? The man becomes your provider - you live in his home, he pays for your food and your clothes. That’s why women needed commitment from a man. If he cheats on you…you won’t divorce him because you can’t afford to survive on your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:09 AM
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Still just one person. Pretty dumb to draw broad conclusions based on a few people on the internet telling their side of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:06 AM
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At any rate I'm not drawing broad conclusions based on parents' marriage. But the point is, when I hear all these career women talking about how men that earn less treated them badly, well, we're only getting half of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:05 AM
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I suspect that's what the other poster is referring to; it's not about being above anything. She said "change in attitude if not in viewpoint"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:01 PM
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Of course you would blame the other party. I would raise the possibility that women who outearn their male partners might respect them less and treat them worse. I mean I have no way of knowing, but then again I'm not going to take you at your word if you deny it. I know that's how my mother treated my father throughout their marriage, because she came from money and he didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:25 PM
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So why do so many redpillers here talk about finding the traditional virgin to marry and have kids with? Because a bunch of tradcon nerds discovered the TRP community, liked that it was vaguely anti-feminist and critical of modernity, and co-opted it. The TRP subreddit is completely different to how it was 5-10 years ago. These kids saw the posts shitting on modern dating and sexual culture and they think they found a like-minded community. They ignore the part of TRP that proclaims traditionali…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:17 PM
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is the advice to never get married? Don't get married and don't spend too much money on women. Because as I've pointed out a few times on this sub, with di minimis pushback, the vast majority of (alleged) alphas that get married end up buxxed themselves. Yes, I agree. what exactly is the long-term relationship advice for redpillers? Don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:13 PM
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Men having low standards is exactly why "women control the dating market", as you put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:12 PM
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That's just your experience 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:59 PM
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I agree that women don't like bi men because they consider them effeminate, but I don't agree that bi women are considered "masculine". Rather, male homosexuality is generally considered effeminate but female homosexuality is not necessarily considered masculine. The association between female homosexuality and masculinity is limited to "butch" lesbians which are pretty far removed from your average bi chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:49 PM
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AFAIK there are red pilled dudes out there who don’t let their world views get in the way of having happy and meaningful relationships with women I agree. I would strong suggest a change ..... in viewpoint entirely. Only if you'd rather believe in a comforting lie over a harsh truth. Personally, I'm above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:02 PM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:47 PM
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The figure he's giving is probably referring to relatively new relationships. Whereas the Pew figure you're linking includes all committed relationships and marriages, including older couples who met decades ago. The fact that your Gen X parents may have met through friends has little bearing on dating dynamics today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:45 PM
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I have frequently noticed the common reason men here give to not sharing their feelings: “Women dont respect men who show weakness.” “It makes pussies dry to be vulnerable with women.” “Women will use your vulnerability to hurt.” Which makes me wonder why would anyone want to appeal to awful women like that. The argument is that most women are like this. This subreddit criticizes women who keep dating losers that treat her like shit, but how is this different? Personally I wouldn't, I mean it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:57 AM
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This is a bad analogy because worker bees are the daughters of the queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:50 AM
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It’s all about perspective. You can choose to see the glass as half empty or half full Redpill and bluepill worldviews are not identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:07 PM
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What does the “truth” matter if it makes you miserable? Not everyone is a pure hedonist. This is the perfect example "red pill" vs "blue pill", in the original sense of the Matrix
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:19 PM
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Isn’t that what the incels want though? No one wants to be a human ATM. If women only valued genetic gifts, the red pill guys would never get a partner? Depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:55 PM
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Quite literally all traits organisms possess evolved for the purpose of reproduction, in one way or another. It's called natural selection. I'm not sure why you're surprised. I agree that men would be better off if they didn't prioritize sex and dating as much as they did, but trying to change behavior that evolved over billions of years will be at the very least difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:21 AM
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If you believe these things they won’t automatically lower your self esteem, the community will as you keep seeing negative stories and comments and having people tell you “it’s over” over and over until you believe it is and that you are done for if you aren’t a chad Ok, so what? What does that have to do with whether those things are true or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:09 AM
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You mean how they describe themselves as, instead of what they actually are? https://miamioh.edu/hcwe/hwac/teaching-support/disciplinary-writing-hwac/philosophy/descriptive-vs-normative/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:07 AM
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Do you value individuals chiefly based on their contribution to reproduction? Would you value the life of an infertile woman significantly less than other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:04 AM
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In the end, he was alone. Was he? I mean, in the lore he died young from an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:26 AM
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but the deterioration of self esteem is huge as well Again, I'm just repeating myself here, but if you're arguing against merely holding redpill/blackpill beliefs because they allegedly hurt your self-esteem, then that's not very convincing. What does that have to do with whether those beliefs are true or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:22 AM
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If you're saying that an obsession with certain beliefs is harmful then that's different, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:05 AM
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Then make arguments for why you think their beliefs are untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:02 AM
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For one thing, you need to display your ability to delay gratification Bold assumption that she's making him wait because she's consciously "delaying gratification" and not because she's not that attracted and views him as a meal ticket. Furthermore, if you're really interested in a guy and sleep with him early on, there is a chance, and it isn't tiny, that doing so will it impossible for him to look at you as "relationship-material". Do you seriously think that many or most men fetishize chasti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:01 AM
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and, to a degree, should be that way OP gave examples of: the murder of boys being ignored in favor of the kidnapping of girls the torture and mutilation of a man being ignored when the rape of a woman is received with outrage the lives of women being prioritized over men in emergency situations men being sentenced more harshly on the basis of their sex men being subject to conscription when women arenuk Among other things So, tell me, when you things "should be that way", which of these are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:39 AM
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I don't blame Ukrainian women for fleeing or dating men from their host countries. It's just life, it's not really different from passport bros. Frankly Ukraine already had horrific demographics and was in terminal decline before the war. This was just the last nail in the coffin. There's no future for anyone there. The more important here is that Ukrainian men are being conscripted into fighting for what is essentially already a dead nation whereas Ukrainian women aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:33 AM
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So dudes are in here all the time talking about women who they can fuck vs "wifey material" Women looking for a betabucks pick men who make good money and possibly men who are willing to do more housework. The distinctions they make are materialistic and transactional in nature; it's about what he can do for her. Are the distinctions made by men in this respect also materialistic in nature? By and large I think not, the main distinctions I see men make in this regard are things like how nice the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:27 AM
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Anti-manosphere folks often claim that subscribing to redpill/blackpill is harmful, but this has never been a convincing argument to me, at least when it comes to purely descriptive beliefs. Whether holding a belief "harms" you or not is irrelevant to it's truth value. Which is arguably the more important question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:21 AM
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common boomer lawyer W
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:12 AM
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You're missing the point. Part of the argument being made is that women value what men can do for them(chiefly in financial respects) over attraction for serious relationships, whereas that is arguably less likely to be the case vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:11 AM
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but a lot of men will be quick to dismiss a women claiming she picked the “wrong guy”, and in the same breath complain that she made you wait for sex as a vetting strategy to see if you’re the “right guy”. Making guys wait for sex has little to do with which guys women choose to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:06 AM
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I don't think they need to. They're likely to be far more physically attractive than local SEA men to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:22 PM
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You'll have a hard time convincing people that fat/ugly chicks don't get appproached or that fat/ugly chicks don't get a lot of swipes on dating apps, and that none of these men want a relationship. It's statistically improbable. It's not like most men are drowning in pussy and would be giving much up by committing to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:21 PM
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100% true for some women — not all Most women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:17 PM
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That's fair. I did say "didn't want to settle down with him", not "didn't' want him".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:14 PM
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No income requirements for adoption where I live
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:11 PM
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If you oppose unilateral paternal surrender("financial/paper abortion") because "every child has a right to be supported by two parents" then would you also agree that single people should not be allowed to adopt babies? I did specify babies because the demand to adopt them far outstrips supply. Babies up for adoption will still get adopted even if single people are barred from adopting them. With older children up for adoption it's a different story because far fewer people are interested in ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:33 AM
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But Ive been reading stuff on here recently and I feel kind of nervous about the concept that she could just find some one else or just cheat if I mess things up or if Im not perfect all of the time. So? If she cheats then just dump her and move on with your life. Cheating isn't going to cost you anything but her. Your time wasn't wasted just because a partner cheats on you, if you still had a happy and fulfilling relationship while you were still together. All good things eventually come to an …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:06 AM
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Alpha fucks beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:01 AM
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Guys can get in shape, start making decent money, invest in self-care and still not pull women for whatever reason e.g height, competition from other guys etc. For sure, but it helps some/many guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:43 AM
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If a 22 year old woman is ready for marriage, why does it take the man to get to 30 to finally realize he wants to settle down? Have you consider that maybe women didn't want to settle down with him until he was older and wealthier.....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:14 AM
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Most guys do this and when they don't get the anticipated results Because their efforts are very one-dimensional and they only focus on building muscle. Clear skin and low body fat can go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:11 AM
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It doesnt sound like so much to me and it comes at a huge disadvantage : finding a long term relationship/a true bond Most women can easily find that too lol. The majority of men don't have a lot of options, it's not like they're drowning in pussy and they'd be giving that up by committing to one woman. Of course, it's still common for women complain about men not committing. Because they pursue the most desirable men that DO have more and better options. when a woman is interested in me i know …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:41 AM
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It's self inflicted. Right, they invented and popularized dating apps like Tinder and Bumble. They forced women to chase chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:28 PM
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It indisputably makes them wrong So by that logic China's wrong about George Floyd because they are also repressive. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:25 PM
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Where are you getting all this from? The article sure as hell doesn't say that. Is this just conjecture from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:17 PM
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So on top of grinding at work and being the main breadwinner, helping out around the house, helping to raise the kids, you also married men to "woo" their wives, just for the bare minimum? Do you want them to die from exhaustion? You're just proving the OP right. Marriage is an L for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:17 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03-046-508.pdf Wrong, the average BMI of older women and men is about the same(Tables 14 and 15). And this doesn't account for the fact that men are more active and more likely to work out so a lot more of that weight is going to be muscle for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:13 PM
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Being a hypocrite is my argument against it. That's a poor argument. Being a hypocrite doesn't make them wrong. China of all countries criticized the killing of George Floyd and the Chinese government is incredibly repressive. Does that mean China is wrong about George Floyd? So he wants to date women but doesn't actually want any woman to date him? Wanting women to date you doesn't mean you expect them to date you. It doesn't mean that you think there's anything wrong with women choosing not to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:08 PM
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there's plenty of attractive women who won't care about his height. And how would you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:05 PM
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Yes, I've seen all the tired arguments and links claiming that body count is proof someone will cheat And you have no argument against it...... and then those same dudes expect women to overlook the fact that just being a man in a relationship means you're far more likely to cheat. Even if they were hypocritical that doesn't mean they're wrong. And we've been over this. You have never provided an example of what you're describing. Just because a man is interested in dating women doesn't mean he …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:04 PM
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like caring about consent, What did they mean by this? Were they raped by their previous partners? caring about my partner orgasming You don't need to orgasm to enjoy sex.... or treating them like a human when we were having sex. Again, this is very vague. What did they mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:00 PM
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Past behavior is not a predictor of anything So you would have no problem dating a guy who has cheated or been violent towards their partner in the past before, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:57 PM
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because it doesn't matter. Keep telling yourself that.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:57 PM
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If she was willing to do something with another guy (habitually, not in a "tried once and didn't like it" kind of way) but not with her current partner there must be some reason for it. Arguably the most likely explanation is that she liked those men more than she likes her current partner. Yes, people can change, but men can't know if she really has changed. Past behavior is a good predictor of current behavior. You would probably be hesitant to date a man who has cheated in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:49 PM
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Some women may very well be happier without a committed, romantic, relationship, but very few women are voluntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:51 PM
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If men really were that awful then the vast majority of women would be celibate, but that's not the case. Clearly most women disagree with you. Women are incredibly entitled and this is just a dumb way to shift the blame onto men because you can't find your prince charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:47 PM
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Dad bod = chad when he's bulking
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:13 AM
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What about same sex couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:52 AM
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Rare socially conservative woman...... I disagree and I don't have a problem with sex work. But I applaud your logical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:45 PM
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Virtually all men have never killed anyone, what are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:23 PM
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There’s an “it” factor to get women that if you don’t have it…you just…don’t. There is no gym for your face, height, or race.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:20 PM
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I don't feel sorry for people who don't get an opportunity to use another persons body for their own pleasure. Curious how women here always use the most wretched terms to describe men having casual sex but never do the same for other women that have casual sex. Hell, I'd bet money that you are actively opposed to "slut-shaming" women......
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:19 PM
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Okay, so if the guy in the relationship can only make the assessment, why are men constantly calling men in relationships beta? I said "decent assessment". You can still get a feel for how a woman treats her man if you're friends or acquaintances with the couple, but obviously you won't see everything. And many RP men describe being a betabux/simp themselves in the past, or how close male friends/family members were in that situation. A better way to word it would be that only a man in the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:40 PM
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Most women aren't looking to "leech". They can literally provide it themselves. Just because you won't starve with your own income doesn't mean that you can't attain a more comfortable lifestyle(or work less) by leeching off a man. I'm saying idk how someone can answer the questions you asked. The income and spending are relatively straightforward. As for the rest, only the guy in the relationship can make a decent assessment. RP talks about betabuxxing and it's traits so guys learn to recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:26 PM
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Of course, we're going to focus on a partner who can financially survive in our society. You're deflecting hard, I'm not talking about women merely wanting a partner that can support themselves. The vast majority of men earn enough to support themselves. I'm talking about women seeking a partner to leech off his earnings, which most women do. This means looking for a higher earning partner who is willing to spend money on you. Why do you assume someone doesn't like YOU, if you're in a stable, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:10 PM
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How do you even know someone isn't "very attracted"? How much does he earn, does he do a lot of childcare/housework? How much does she earn? How does she treat him, is the relationship is reciprocal or one-sided? Does she express love/attraction in any way? What does she do for him? Who pays for what? How often do they have a sex and what is it like? Fun enthusiastic sex several times a week or starfish maintenance sex once a month? Does she give blowjobs, is she interested in kinky sex, etc? Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:00 PM
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I was dumb. This woman probably isn't dumb That's a helluva assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:42 PM
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I think a woman would be a lot more prepared for an advance in private than in public. Do you disagree that women generally feel more comfortable rejecting a man in public than in private? As for me, I would have said yes when I was younger, and I would have regretted it. As a person who is out of University now, I would not put myself in that position without considering the sexual angle. LOL so you're contradicting what you said earlier. In your own case you would not have declined hanging out…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:35 PM
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I've never seen it used to refer to all men in relationships. TRP uses the term "beta bux" to refer to men in relationships or marriages with women who aren't very attracted to them and are with them for their money/stability/helpfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:28 PM
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Because obviously she wasn't cool with it Just because you're not cool with something doesn't mean the other party did anything wrong. If a guy flipped out and cruelly rejected a fat chick who asked him out, is she in the wrong just because he reacted negatively? And after 2 years, if his most private option was bringing this up in public You don't know that. And I'll ask you again: Do you think that agreeing to hang out with a guy necessarily means that you would be down to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:26 PM
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Using the stats everyone here loves, it stands to assume that most males in this sub or will be "beta". I rarely see that word get used here. Care to explain what you mean by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:24 PM
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If this was the case, she would have said no to hanging out in private He'd known her for two years and they were already friends.... Do you think that agreeing to hang out with a guy necessarily means that you want to fuck him? Why are you so hell-bent on nitpicking men's actions and portraying them as predatory for merely making sexual advances?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:04 PM
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If a woman asked for you to have sex with her, you would probably be flattered and get an orgasm out of it. Depends on the woman. If a fat, ugly, chick asked me for sex I would be grossed out and reject her but I wouldn't treat her like this. I wouldn't make it sound like she's a bad person, talk shit about her to my friends, label her as a predator, etc. I would just say "no, thanks". She could have said "I'm not interested, sorry, and I don't think we should be friends anymore" and left it at …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:12 AM
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Where did you get those figures from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:29 AM
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I meant as in paying the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:22 AM
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1, 2, 3 TL;DR guy asks female friend to be FWB and Redditors lose their minds. "You basically told her, 'I see you as fuck toy but not worthy of a relationship'" "She doesn’t need to “cool down”, dude your usage of language is atrocious. She is rightfully freaked out! You’re coming off like a sex offender!" "Then why didn’t you just ask her out to lunch? Asking for FWB means you want to masturbate with her body without any strings." "You learned nothing from your last post. She is ABSOLUTELY ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:15 AM
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I speak for most women No you don't. since they’re the ones who like princess and Disney fantasies, obsess over weddings and commitment, consume relationship-based content for fun, and care deeply about Twoo Lub and romance/romantic gestures Just because women think committed relationships are ideal doesn't mean that they don't have casual sex or that it's reasonable to assume commitment just because you had sex with someone. You're derailing hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:12 AM
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I’m saying it’s not prevalent, common or ideal. It's absolutely prevalent and common, what are you smoking? It’s happily ever after, not happily until he nuts and then leaves Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:54 PM
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Considering you have to pay in both instances Not necessarily for passport bros, or at least not any more than local guys do. Many if not most Asian women find white guys more physically attractive. I mean for starters, the average guy in SEA is like 5'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:49 PM
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Don't play dumb, most women have had casual sex in their lives. Just because they're not as interested in casual sex as men doesn't mean they don't do it. People have sex outside of committed monogamous relationships all the time. It's not reasonable to assume that pursuing sex or having sex with someone means that you want a committed, romantic, monogamous, relationship. To suggest otherwise would be sheer entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:29 PM
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It's not dichotomy between lying and explicitly stating your intentions. A lot of the time sexual relationships just aren't defined. You've never heard of the term "situationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:38 PM
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If their communication is THIS poor online You're only saying this because you disagree with their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:33 PM
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If this is real and not an April fool's joke, obviously the religion in question is Islam and you're just afraid to say it LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:59 PM
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You haven't seen what they look like or how they interact with women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:54 PM
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It wouldn't be considered it would be considered stealing, it would be considered failing to uphold a contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:30 PM
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Your definition is not consistent with how most people use the term, or how it's defined in criminal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:29 PM
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Because the norm is sex + relationship, not casual. Maybe 20 or 30 years ago, not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:16 PM
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It's not "rape" in the ordinary sense of the word understood by most people because she freely chose to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:14 PM
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Men here really don’t like it when women are in a loving relationship with “Chad.” Can you give an example of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:10 PM
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One might think that you missed the sarcasm considering how you claimed that he was agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:37 AM
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everybody is, if more of the traits that women looked and had a higher priority for were in 18, 19 and 20 year old men I would say that men become most physically attractive to women in their late 20s. Although it's still perfectly normal for women of all ages to find men 18-20 attractive. Women generally don't end up in relationships with younger men because they value wealth/status more and physical appearance less in a serious partner. This becomes even more pronounced as women get older. Old…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:27 AM
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good looking 🤣🤢🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:23 AM
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When did he say that? yes am sure 10% of the people working in this infrastructures can save everyone This was sarcastic, in case you couldn't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 08:03 AM
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This post is incredibly deluded. First off, neither sex generally "needs" the other in the sense that it's necessary to our survival. We are capable of working, earning our own incomes and supporting ourselves. Most of are already doing this as we no longer live at home until we marry. Sure, you won't starve without a partner, but men still earn more than you do. Most women still strongly prefer seriously dating and marrying high-earning men. We have options outside of marriage to have children.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 07:59 AM
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I'd bet money that most women here wouldn't care if a chick slapped her boyfriend, especially if he had done something to "deserve" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:26 PM
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who aren't chubby or not white Some of us are ugly. Some of us are stupid. The vast majority of these women still get plenty of interest from men, just not chad lmao. Most men barely care about height unless you're taller than him...... Someo if us have a disability, and it's a lot harder finding a relationship with a man who can or will deal with that. Or an illness. The vast majority of young people don't have debilitating conditions or chronic illnesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:17 PM
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If you're disabled, you'd think you would try another sport, activity, or find another tool. Not repeatedly blame everyone else for not being able to swim like other people. You're shifting the goalposts. A physically disabled person would generally be justified in blaming factors out of their control for poor athletic performance. I never said anything about constantly complaining, you can point it out without constantly talking about it. No you did not. You can provide a link. I cannot, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:54 AM
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You could have a disability. You're still not a fast swimmer, lol. "Blaming external factors for your lack of success while doing no introspective work is incredibly immature." "If you repeatedly fail at something, and you blame everyone but yourself, that's an immature thing to do" I don't see the website you're talking about. You're being willfully obtuse. I told you everything you need to know to find the data. How can you mutually gold dig? I'm talking about a woman who marries a man that ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:48 AM
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Ok. Let's say I am a swimmer. I repeatedly fail at swimming, and other people beat me. I whine about how unfair it is, because everyone is faster/better than me, or whatever. That doesn't change the fact that I suck at swimming. It's possible that you suck at swimming because you have a disability. Most people get married later nowadays, your research had nothing to do with ugliness lol. I'm not talking about the fact that young men are mostly unmarried, I'm talking about the fact that a signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:16 AM
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If you repeatedly fail at something, and you blame everyone but yourself, that's an immature thing to do Why is it immature? Are you saying that it's never possible to constantly fail at certain things due to external factors? Ugly men regularly enter relationships and get married. According to GSS data from 2016-2018, 30% of young men aged 18-24 reported no sex in the past year and another 10% only reported only having sex once or twice. Although many of them will have relationships and get mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:51 PM
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Blaming external factors for your lack of success while doing no introspective work is incredibly immature. How would you know that it isn't due external factors? Your looks are almost never a barrier to getting a relationship. It's most likely your personality Again, how would you know that? Ugly women who get a lot of matches often get matches as jokes, and aren't taken seriously. Ugly women still get plenty of genuine interest. Most men that think they're ugly are not ugly, but have horrible …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:35 PM
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Do you have a source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:59 PM
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based if true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:51 PM
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the prevalence stats don’t support those %s What prevalence stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:37 PM
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Most men are fat in the US for example, and a smaller percentage of women are fat Wrong. The proportion of men and women that are overweight/obese by BMI are similar(with more classified as "overweight" and more women classified as "obese"), but that's a poor measure of true obesity(excess body fat) because it doesn't account for muscle. Muscular men are likely to be misclassified as overweight/obese by BMI due to weight from muscle. Men are far more interested in building muscle than women are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:33 PM
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Just because you don't enjoy it as much as a man does doesn't mean you don't enjoy it.....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:02 PM
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You're going up against literally billions of years of evolution. Merely telling men to go "do things" is not going to get them to lose interest in women. The only way to do that is regular ejaculation, whether it's through sexual activity with a partner or masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:49 AM
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There seem to be a trend of “self-diagnosis” particularly when it comes to anxiety/depression/bipolar https://twitter.com/RichardvReeves/status/1382818208084848653 Over half of liberal white women between 18-29, an d 40% of those 30-49, report that they have been told by a healthcare practitioner that they have a mental health condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:42 AM
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By providing an allowance of $2000 a month for beauty-related expenses I swear this guy has to be a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:35 AM
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In theory, a high value man is one who invests in his woman’s beauty financially Value is normative. Whether something is "valuable" or not a matter of fact but rather a matter of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:35 AM
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What a garbage post. You have provided ZERO evidence that it's easy for average looking men to have casual sex. All you're saying is that women have become sexually liberated and can fuck whoever they want with minimal social repercussions. Just because they can fuck whoever they want doesn't mean they're going to fuck YOU. Instead, they are encouraged to explore their desires and express their sexuality without restraint Women are overwhelmingly interested in the most attractive men. And when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:34 AM
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Just because they don't cum doesn't mean they don't enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:21 AM
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Because a woman choosing to leave her home country to do sex work Right. Because everyone in their home countries are literally starving. Working to make a living is not coercive. Virtually all people work for a living. Also if you read the stories from those women most are promised things like maid jobs and then told when they are stuck there that they have to do sex work And how many sex workers are in that situation specifically. or be handed over to the law system or worse. Damn, maybe you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:21 AM
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There’s a pretty broad consensus And how would you know that? The vast majority of women are not celibate, the vast majority of women date and have sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:04 AM
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This is the biggest problem with sex work being legal. There will never be enough willing women to meet the demand of willing men. Then prices will go up until they reach equilibrium. Without sex trafficking The word "sex trafficking" is often applied to prostitution involving perfectly willing participants, just because they are illegal immigrants that were smuggled over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:02 AM
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"6'X because apparently that matters" You're blaming men for women's standards? "Lone wolf" (ie; I will not commit to you but I will happily string you along for easy sex) If he's upfront enough about it to put it in the bio then he sure as hell isn't "stringing you along". "Good vibes only" - I'm emotionally unavailable and am a big fan of toxic positivity "I don't want to be a stranger's emotional tampon" "Points if..." (I'm a douchebag who is entering into this social relationship with an exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:56 AM
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to be used for non-orgasmic, unpleasant, uncomfortable and unsatisfying sex (aka “dating”) with men who, at best, don’t give a crap about them, may actively dislike them and definitely don’t respect or care about them You really do need to speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:50 AM
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People slut-shame because being a slut is not that fun. A lot of men slut-shame because they don't get any and they're bitter about it. It's their cope. I'd imagine that a lot of women slut-shame because they're catty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:48 AM
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I do not think it's difficult for virtually any incels to get sex with an ugly woman If we're talking about the least attractive decile of men or so, I think it would be hard for them to get ANYTHING apart from prostitution or betabuxxing. Like, even deformed landwhales have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:38 AM
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You implied that having sex with mediocre looking girls isn't difficult and I disagree with hat. They go for chad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:23 AM
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by telling them how his house was filled with so many discarded beer cans that fruit flies and spiders were propagating in them and crawling into his bed at night "Um, you need to take a shower inkwell"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:20 AM
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Non-hot girls go for "chad" too lol. Or at least until they're older and it's time to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:18 AM
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but If you actually look at who they date/sleep with it’s with men who are not as attractive as what you’d think First of all, beauty is a value judgement. What's attractive to one person may not be attractive to another and neither would be more factually correct than the other. It's important to note that women, like men, have diverse preferences when it comes to choosing partners. Not that diverse..... While it is true that some women may be drawn to conventionally attractive men or those wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:15 AM
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More sexless men under 35 than women I presume you meant to write "More sexless women under 35 than men", so I'll just go with that. That data was collected from December 2020 to May 2021, during the height of the second wave of the pandemic. One sex was far more cautious during the pandemic, and it wasn't men. That data is hardly representative of how men and women behave normally. Also you sneakily tried to change subject age cohort to "under 35s", don't think that went unnoticed. I was focusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:10 AM
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What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:26 PM
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Humans do not have estrous cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:04 PM
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Christ, for hookups and situationships it's probably even higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:48 PM
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If you ask me, if she breathe....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:19 PM
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GSS data found that 30% of men aged 18-24 reported no sex in the past year, and another 10% only reported having sex "once or twice
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:17 PM
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I said who women are horny for. I never said that they should or shouldn't be horny for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:03 PM
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The problem is that women are NOT horny for the type of men you think they should be honey for! I never said women "should" or "'shouldn't" be horny for anyone. Stop making shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:56 PM
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But if women didn't really want to fuck that much why would a man be worried about being cucked Women want to fuck chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:51 PM
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A female human is capable of achieving multiple orgasms one after the other without much of a refractory period But they still don't masturbate as much as we do. Not all traits evolved to increase reproductive success. In modern women's case, many researchers hypothesize that their orgasm are merely homologous to men's orgasms, or merely homologous to copulation induced ovulation in other mammals. All throughout human history, every major religion has sought to control female sexuality. Because …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:16 PM
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They also blame women for being in abusive relationships, single mums and also shame women who have high N counts. I don't. Surely all of these things would have been avoided by having higher standards? People are talking about physical standards. As a matter of fact, women valuing physical appearance at the expense of other traits probably increases the chance of them ending up in an abusive relationship. So anyway - how exactly do you think women should lower their standards and what would the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:04 PM
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Why do so many women have trouble admitting that sexual past CAN matter, and maybe even should matter? Shouldn't we be talking about at what point it should matter rather than the extreme position that it never should matter? Also, why can't we all admit that there may be some gender asymmetry here, and then discuss the extent of it? hesrightyouknow.png On the guy's side, how did having a reasonable concern for a woman's sexual past turn into wanting only virgins in 2023 America Yeah, frankly th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:21 PM
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For men, there is such thing as a healthy level of mistrust towards women as a group. Being aware of how women use their sexuality to control men and get what they want from us helps us to protect out own well-being and finances. It will help stave off oneitis. It's important to keep a level head because love hormones are powerful and can make men do things that screw us over and cause regret in the long-term. You're going to have a hard time convincing me that there's something wrong with my at…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 09:55 AM
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Genetics and upbringing /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:34 AM
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What's a better word for this? "Rizz"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:32 AM
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I never gave a shit about a man’s money as long as he didn’t expect me to finance his life I'm pretty sure you make more than the vast majority of women so your attitudes are hardly representative.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:20 AM
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Well my simp ass friends were a fraternity, so maybe we were to busy racking up counts to give a fuck other people’s numbers were. Right, and how many frat dudes are getting married to sluts? Obviously most guys are down to hook up with sluts. But marriage and serious relationships are a different ball game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:39 AM
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If it works why do so many men seem To be stuck in perpetual victimhood Are they? It’s just teaching men to be misogynistic Leaving the anger phase doesn't mean that you stop being misogynistic. It just means that you stop being angry. dudes straight up fear it Can you give an example? Talking about it doesn't mean that we personally fear it. Do you really think women wouldn’t be pro more hot men? Looksmaxxing is more blackpill than redpill. The main looksmaxxing advice that TRP gives is to lift…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:30 AM
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I don't know kind of simp ass friend group you have, but most guys I know from school care. None of them would want to wife up the town bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:21 AM
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and men are more dangerous than women. Black Americans commit more crime than white Americans. Does that mean racial profiling is okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:52 AM
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They were talking about mass killings specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:50 AM
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Sounds like other people’s opinions about your n count don’t mean shit. Only if they don't affect your life. The same isn't necessarily true for high n women, because men care way more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:41 AM
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Well, when you say things like "don't lie about it" it sounds like you're trying to change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:40 AM
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So why are you wasting your breath telling them to be honest and "face the consequences"? Again, there are no consequences to face because they lie. It's like trying to convince a lion to go vegan.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:09 AM
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I'm sure that high n-count men are in shambles because some bitter ugly femcels on Reddit claim to be disgusted by them 🤣. These bitches giving off major "you can't fire me, I quit" vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:08 AM
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Eh, mass killing events are about as common in Canada when you account for the fact that the population is 1/8th of the US. There's typically 1 or 2 per year here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:06 AM
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And that's the crux of my position - you're free to do whatever you want, but you need to accept the consequences You're missing the point brah. There are no consequences if they don't disclose it or lie. I agree they shouldn't lie, but talking to a brick wall would be more productive than convincing women of this. Women simply don't deserve marriage and serious commitment anymore. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Having fun and keeping things casual is more realistic plan of action than tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:00 AM
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Think of ads that are for, for example, platform heels inside the shoes - “you’re single cause you’re short, buy this product!” Every little bit helps. I'm significantly taller in boots and shoe lifts than just wearing regular shoes. think of all the RP creators and manosphere types (Tate, Cooper, Rollo, Fresh n Fit, etc) - a lot of what they sell guys is “you’re single cause you aren’t listening to me. Buy my book/course/etc. The vast majority of redpill(and blackpill) content is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:36 PM
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Yes, the double standard tends to involve both genders There can't be a "double standard" if it's just a dating preference and you only date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:25 PM
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Is this only an issue for men? Well the topic of this conversation is men's preferences and alleged "double standards". I don't care if you're a woman and you want to filter out promiscuous guys, go ahead. Most guys aren't slaying and probably wouldn't care either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:12 PM
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If you ask me, I don't think guys should get married, period. But if a guy insists on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xqbfyi/not_only_is_past_promiscuity_a_good_predictor_of/ The bottom line is that not dating or marrying someone is not the same as accusing them of doing "bad" things, or labelling them as "bad" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:05 PM
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"I would rather not marry a slutty woman" =/= "Women who sleep around are bad people"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:53 PM
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Sex is bad for women I never said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:12 PM
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"Bro who cares if you get rinsed out in a divorce if you're not rich. If you're not rich there's no point to protecting your wealth and income"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:13 PM
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It’s pretty sure he’s clear that he can pull and not he wants to get married People want to do things that can hurt them all the time. It's his decision at the day, but informing him of the research on promiscuity and relationship outcomes doesn't deny him the ability to make a decision. Rather, it allows him to make a more informed decision. Having more or less stuff is the problem? Yes, obviously. The dudes pulling and yet his “bros” are protecting him from maybe losing wealth even tho he migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:11 PM
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it’s the hypocrisy What hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:01 PM
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No I’m seeing that this feels and looks a lot more like “if I’m not getting some then no one should!” Who gives a shit about your dumbass feelings? The facts on marrying sluts are pretty clear. Again, you're assuming that he won't get laid if he doesn't marry a slut, which is a massive leap. That wouldn't only be the case if sluts were his only option and they were all demanding marriage. Because they all have soooo much wealth that they might lose? Just because you're not rich doesn't mean that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:58 PM
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Yeah so to protect him from possibly ending up single and alone Not just that, you also risk your wealth assets in a divorce. You're also assuming that he doesn't have other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:49 PM
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IDK man, Andrew Tate was pretty popular. Not to say that I agree with him, I don't really. But young men and boys are increasingly open to "manosphere" ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:48 PM
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We're not going to get anywhere with that kind of attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:45 PM
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What are you protecting him from? Having sex?! https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xqbfyi/not_only_is_past_promiscuity_a_good_predictor_of/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:44 PM
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That's quite understandable on her end honestly, she's had enough for it for a lifetime and is probably sick of it. I feel bad for her future husband though, unless she's okay with him having side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:39 PM
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It’s more: “marry who you want, and stop calling peoples names and stop giving a fuck about it” Has it ever occurred to you that we don't live in a completely atomized society and men can be concerned about the well-being of other men? Women tell other women not to date certain kinds of men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:34 PM
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Many women and BPers have suggested that marrying a slut is somehow a good idea because "they like sex and relatively chaste women won't have a sex drive" or something like that. It makes no sense. Being a slut is not defined by liking sex but wanting to have sex with a large variety of people. Someone can have a high sex drive without being interested in sexual variety. I mean, I could hypothesize that sluts are more likely to get bored in a monogamous relationship because they're used to sleep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:21 PM
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textbook betabuxxing lmao i don't think it's particularly hard for sluts to land a desirable husband, they can just not reveal or lie about their past. suggesting otherwise is just a revenge fantasy COPE
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:13 PM
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The studyr regarding braind development to 25 is the GENERAL age range where there is continous brain devlopment that is similar to that of a developing adolencent brain. Can you link it? However on average people are more likely to lake logical and more rational decisions in their mid 20s due to braind development during this stage How would you measure whether a decision is "logical" or "rational"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:10 PM
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Those two things have nothing in common. What are you smoking? If you have a significant amount of competition to be the girlfriend of a highly attractive men, you probably won't be chosen, so it's not "realistic" to expect it. If you throw a fit, is fine, you'll calm down eventually You would not say that if a man was pissed off at being rejected. But don't be like angry men that start shooting. Virtually all disaffected men have never hurt or killed anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:49 AM
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And I disagree. What planet are you living on? There are only so many highly attractive men to go around. If they breath a word men don't like, they are bitching. If they express a sense of entitlement to commitment they are bitching. As they are fond of saying, "you're not entitled to shit". you're just using words. All I'm saying is that you have competition and you shouldn't assume that you will get chosen, and throw a fit if you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:38 AM
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Are you mentally stable? You just started ranting about porn for no reason and completely ignored my point: Why would you assume that they're "manipulating" their partners? Hell, if they're just hooking up or casually dating there's not much room for "manipulation". And most of the time it is, older men tend to marry women closer to them in age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:35 AM
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Why would you assume that they're "manipulating" their partners? Hell, if they're just hooking up or casually dating there's not much room for "manipulation". And most of the time it is, older men tend to marry women closer to them in age. Can you read? That definitely wasn't "all I got".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:22 AM
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I didn't ask for you to explain that people pick to be with people they like. I was pointing out that it's often not realistic to expect commitment from an "8/10 guy", as you put it. Women should stop bitching about chad not committing, if they want commitment then they should lower their standards. How do you know what he considers the best option? I never said that I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:07 AM
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Ok? I never said that women were happy, you're arguing with a strawman. And happiness and satisfaction are not synonymous with well-being. There are rich people living comfortable lives who aren't satisfied and want more. There are poor people living harder lives who are satisfied with what they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:37 AM
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30 yo grown man who thinks that acting like a frat boy will get him sex Most guys here are in their 20s or even teens. And I have little reason to believe that women suddenly start scrutinizing our attitudes toward them as they get older. I do understand that not all people have the opportunity to interact with people in a dating setting so data is all that they have. Different people have vastly different experiences dating. Scientific research is the best way to make conclusions about sexual/r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:29 AM
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Why do I even need to explain this? By definition attractive guys have more women interested in them than less attractive guys. And obviously if they're going to commit to one they're gonna pick the one they like the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:09 AM
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You don't need decades of experience to date or have sex, most people start in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:57 AM
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Only 21% of women age 18-25 are not married not mothers Inclusion marital status and motherhood makes no sense. It's not necessarily that men don't want these women, but rather, they're already taken and for the most part not interested in US. If say, two-thirds of women are already taken and not interested in dating me, it wouldn't be accurate to say that I'm only interested in the "top one third" of women because that's my eligible pool. Only 21% of women age 18-25, which is 8.3% of all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:51 AM
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What are you gonna do, lie If it comes to that yes, but it's not that hard to simply not talk about certain topics. Chicks don't ask guys arcane questions like "do you think women rinse men out in divorces" or "do you think women are in chad harems". I know he isn't attracted to an angry and bitter woman who thinks that all men are insert whatever negative stereotype you want It's funny, most women get quite riled up when you say "not all men". Anyways, not literally all women, but many or most …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:44 AM
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Yes. They also what the 8/10 guy. Attractive guys have more options. If you're a woman you better be the best option if you want his commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:28 AM
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most men at a young age are bastards who don't want to commit Why are they "bastards" just because they don't want to commit? Are you slut-shaming them? It has nothing to do with genuine affection. Can you read minds? And they're often very shitty to you once they've committed How exactly were they "shitty"? This whole idea that hot dudes don't commit is just not true "I found one hot guy who's willing to commit so that disproves any relationship between attractiveness and promiscuity in men" 🤏🧠
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:26 AM
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I thought women did most of the divorcing? Because they marry men they don't like that much for money and stability, get fed up, and usually come out of the divorce better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:04 AM
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Most marriages are shit for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:25 AM
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If a man convinced his girlfriend to cut contact with all her family and friends that would be voluntary too. No one is hiding anything Woman can and do hide their past to their spouses. Women can and do show affection and seek to marry men with ulterior motives, namely money and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:17 AM
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Do you think behavior can't be objectionable just because it's not forced? I don't ever want to hear you complain about women being "coerced" or "manipulated" or "isolated" by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:17 AM
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Humans are indeed animals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:18 PM
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I don't "want" women to do anything. I don't expect women to lower their standards, I don't expect them to offer guys pity sex. There's nothing wrong with choosing sexual partners you find attractive. If you only find gigachad attractive, then don't have sex with anyone but gigachad. All power to you, genuinely. What I do have a problem with is how most women abuse their sexuality to control and exploit less attractive men. How many of you marry these men for their money and stability when you g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:07 PM
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And good lord, you don’t know how abusive relationships work - a person can isolate their partner by suggesting their friends and family are bad for them, make them doubt their decisions, build dependence then threaten to take it away, etc - you don’t need to be living together to have an abusive relationship It's hard to isolate someone and keep them from seeing other people when you aren't living together. And you haven't fully answered my question, what if they're just hooking up or casually …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:03 PM
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I don't have any young female relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:43 PM
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Even if it is junk science, its still available research explored I'm not calling the research itself junk, I'm calling the pop science articles claiming that "the brain doesn't mature until 25" junk because they're mischaracterizing the research. Again, as outlined in this article. which is more than what most men have on here who argue for dating 18 yr olds "I like them" is reason enough to me. They don’t have any statistical evidence to back themselves up because most people don’t agree on da…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:08 PM
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Theyll question it but back off when studies suggest that the brain doesn’t develop until people are 25 As outlined in this article, with quotes from researchers, that is junk pop science. It's a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:34 PM
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So he believes there are no attractive 30 year old women? The most attractive women are young. Most 30 year old women would have been better looking when they were younger. And I think you would also hate on a guy who dates/hooks up with mostly but not exclusively young women. And what demands are these hook ups placing on him that are so unbearable? You're missing the point. An older woman is far less willing to be just a hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:34 PM
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That the reason this 40 year old guy exclusively tries to hook up with 18-20 year olds is because older women recognize that he's a sleaze bag How would you know that? Maybe he finds them more attractive and/or less demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:16 PM
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okay - so in a large age gap relationship, the older partner is far more likely to be able to manipulate, coheres, isolate and even abuse the younger partner. Isolation and abuse are typically only concerns in more serious relationships. As I have already asked, "What if they are just hooking up or casually dating? Why would a "power imbalance" be relevant if she's not significantly invested in and financially dependent on him?" If you're just seeing someone a few times a week without living tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:12 PM
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because they don't know any better? What don't young women know?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:09 PM
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Have you considered that maybe those dudes just find them more attractive and less demanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:00 PM
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They literally are. I'm referring to the specific women here parrot claiming that brain-development doesn't "finish" until 25/mid 20s. I'm not talking about what women are saying with regards to life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:55 PM
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No, that young women hooking up with significantly older men is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:53 PM
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so of course they don’t understand what such a power imbalance means or how age alone can give someone a step up in conventional wisdom, knowledge And how exactly would a disparity "conventional wisdom" or "knowledge" cause problems in sexual relationships? What if they are just hooking up or casually dating? Why would a "power imbalance" be relevant if she's not significantly invested in and financially dependent on him? “when i’m 40 i’ll show em! i’ll sleep with 20 year olds so the women who r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:52 PM
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I don't think most women here would agree with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:39 PM
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I care to an extent when they eventually want relationships if they eventually want relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:33 PM
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Apparently other women care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:31 PM
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which makes them vulnerable to manipulation by much older adults. How exactly would they be manipulated? Especially if they are just casually dating/hooking up and not financially dependent due to cohabitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:29 PM
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Importance is only relative to other factors. If women are that much more likely to be receptive towards taller men, then that absolutely shows it's important compared to other factors. If it wasn't that important then the disparity in the interest they show between shorter and taller men would be small/nonexistent. If women are willing to set a high minimum filter, and exclude a lot of men who have other desirable traits just because they aren't tall enough, then that absolutely shows it's impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:34 PM
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TL;DR many people have been parroting pop science phrases for purely ideological reasons without fully looking into it. That means that for some people, changes in the prefrontal cortex really might plateau around 25—but not for everyone. And the prefrontal cortex is just one area of the brain; researchers homed in on it because it’s a major player in coordinating “higher thought,” but other parts of the brain are also required for a behavior as complex as decision making. The temporal lobe help…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:06 AM
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That doesn't compare this to other factors to show how important it is. If women are significantly more interested in taller men in speed dating studies, that shows it's important. If women are setting very high minimum height filters on OLD, that shows it's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:56 AM
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Speed dating studies have found that women are significantly more interested in seeing taller men again, one study on OLD profiles have found that the average minimum height filter set by women was 5'9", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:28 AM
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Only some most women obsess over height. FTFY. Every single study on this topic I've seen has found that height matters a lot. The women who deny this never post any research to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:07 AM
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no cuz im not gay brah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:13 PM
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edited, I was talking about NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:50 PM
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Think of the unattractive software engineer you know at Apple making 140k in NYC. That guy does not have a thriving dating life. You're using the LEAST attractive men as an example. At least 140k is enough to betabux in NYC lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:49 PM
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That's much less vague than "single". Also, I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. A big part of the reason non-celibate guys are more likely to say they're not in a "committed" relationship is that they're seeing other women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:47 PM
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Unless you're making 7 figs yearly in NYC This is absurd. The median household income in NYC is around 70k. An individual salary of 150k would absolutely be comfortable. Rich white bankers aren't the only people in NYC you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:44 PM
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You're flat-out wrong. At no point did the survey questions actually use the word "single". You haven't even bothered to look up the methodology. https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/facts-single-americans-topline.pdf ASK ALL: Which of these best describes you? 51 Married 11 Living with a partner 10 Divorced 2 Separated 5 Widowed 22 Never been married ASK IF DIVORCED, SEPARATED, WIDOWED, NEVER MARRIED OR NO ANSWER Are you currently in a committed romantic relationship? 20 Yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:36 PM
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Some women will think they’re in a relationship when they’re just being strung along. And that man is very likely to be dating other women. Hence, hypergamy. Some men will say they’re single when they’re married with two kids, a mortgage and joint credit card debt. The survey first asks respondents if they are currently married and if they answer yes, they are no longer classified as single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:30 PM
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No one said that the 2021 GSS was inaccurate, just that it's likely an outlier because of the pandemic. If the 2022-23 GSS still shows more women being sexless If the 2022 GSS data was collected from early 2022, pandemic measures would still have been in place due to the Omicron surge. Many people would have been wearing masks, a lot of college courses would have still been online, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:27 PM
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They don't need to survey men and women who are dating each other to get a representative sample of Americans and their relationship statuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:25 PM
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Do you think that it's possible that the women they interviewed were not dating the men who were interviewed? Obviously they probably weren't seeing each other but these surveys are designed to be representative. This is a non-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:14 PM
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Pew is a reputable polling firm and they take great efforts to achieve representative samples. But it's probably like talking to a brick wall at this point. Women categorically refuse to admit that they chase chad no matter how much evidence you provide. If you did and it became widespread you would have a much harder time securing providers and getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:59 PM
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PPD w*men really be basing their own worldviews off of "well I know a person who ....... teehee" and then go on to nitpick surveys done by reputable polling firms 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:47 PM
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Irrelevant. It might be better for gathering more information but the question was pretty clear. If you're in this specific kind of relationship answer yes, otherwise answer no. You're not being asked between two distinct characterizations of your relationship status and forced to pick the closest one, which is what the other user is obstinately arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:45 PM
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Only 6000? This is coming from the sex that makes conclusions and rules out redpill and blackpill beliefs based on their own personal experiences with a few dozen or hundred people LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:44 PM
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If the question only has a yes or no answer, and someone’s ACTUAL REAL LIFE SITUATION is not fully yes or fully no They asked if you were in one, specific, kind of relationship. If you're in any kind of sexual relationship(FWB, situationship, etc.) other than a "committed romantic relationship" it would still be completely accurate to answer "no". There is no "in between" here. It's like asking someone "are you currently married to someone, yes or no". If they were in relationship but not marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:41 PM
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What I’ve realized over the years is that the girls who don’t care about money almost always tend to have bad traits such as high body count, feminist, argumentative, doesn’t want kids, doesn’t want to be submissive to you etc. Whereas for a girl to value your money as a guy, she has to at least believe in traditional roles to an extent. Virtually all women care a lot about money, especially for marriage. Have fun getting milked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:35 PM
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Women wear heels regularly and are fine 🤷‍♂️ And lifts are usually like 1-2 inches, way less extreme than a lot of heels
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:24 PM
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unironically yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:17 PM
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Smartest w*man on PPD be like: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/119450r/comment/j9memhg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:08 PM
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Because some people may consider themselves to be in between “single” and “in a committed relationship”, they may answer whatever is closest to what they consider themselves to be. Holy shit you are grasping at straws. For the umpteenth time they weren't asked to choose between "single" and "in a committed romantic relationship". They were asked "are you in a committed romantic relationship" and had to select yes or no. If they personally considered themselves to be somewhere in between "single"…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:08 PM
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Just southeast asia maxx bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:15 AM
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I think he meant SEAmaxx. That's where a lot of struggling white dudes go to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:13 AM
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What is he missing? How many flat chested women can legitimately say they have trouble finding men that are interested in them due to that trait? Very few. Whereas tons of short bros are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:12 AM
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Is that figure broken down by age? How many of those men are divorced dads who are focusing on raising their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:38 AM
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I'm not sure if Russian chicks like ricecels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:36 AM
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I still see too many schlubby, fat men with attractive women in the area Right, and today I saw a guy getting beamed up by a UFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:33 AM
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Most women are that shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:22 AM
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Bruh nothing you are saying is at odds with what I just said….????? You claimed respondants were asked to choose between "committed monogamous relationship" and "single". They weren't. If you were asked in an interview: “Are you single?” How many times do I have to repeat myself, they weren't asked "Are you single?". They were asked, word-for-word: "Are you currently in a committed romantic relationship?". On a survey you do not get to explain the various shades of grey between answers. Either y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:07 AM
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First impressions matter the most and it's not a huge difference, I doubt they would even notice when the shoes come off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:37 AM
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So it’s entirely possible that women consider “committed monogamous relationships” to more accurately describe their situation than “single” You didn't even read the methodology did you? First of all, the term the used wasn't "committed monogamous relationship", it was "committed romantic relationship". Secondly, no one was asked to choose between "committed romantic relationship" and "single". They were simply asked if they were in a committed monogamous relationship, yes or no response. If the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:34 AM
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Bro you can't count boots/shoes unless they're especially tall cuz everyone wears them....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:09 AM
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Seethe lmao. We're just playing the same game that you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:07 AM
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unless “single” is specifically defined for the survey. Which it isn’t. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:06 AM
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What did you notice? And why are you CONSTANTLY posting this thread? Does it bother you so much that men are doing the same sort of thing that your sex has been doing for ages?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:29 PM
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You think women don’t know about fashion and fit? Seriously? What does that have to with knowing someone's height? It's not like she can visualize a hologram of men she knows and compare them to her date. Jesus christ. but men have consistently measured women by their curves How is this relevant to the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:26 PM
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If she’s looking at his chin in shoes, then looking at his forehead in the shower What are you smoking? Your chin and forehead are at least 5 inches apart. If his lifts only add 1 inch it's not that big of a difference. And a lot of guys lie about their height too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:24 PM
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I'm 5'7 and I bump myself up to 5'9 ish (one inch lifts, plus shoes that add 1.5 inches) Bruh you can't count shoes. Everyone wears shoes. A 5'9" guy wearing shoes will be taller than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:22 PM
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I have never ever asked a guy what his height is at the start You can't speak for other women, and people have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:16 PM
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And the Pew survey did define "single": https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/facts-single-americans-topline.pdf Respondents were asked if they were married or cohabitating. If not, they were asked if they were in a "committed romantic relationship". If the answer is no to all of these questions they were classified as "single". Seems pretty clear to me. Women are assuming that a relationship exists even when they haven't DTRed and the guy is likely fucking other chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:14 PM
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and the know the heights of the men who stand beside them. Not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:07 PM
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Where do you live tf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:05 PM
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kinda short 5’10 💀 In my experience girls never rejected me on my height. They'll never tell you that they rejected you due to your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:04 PM
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Women lie to us every time they leave the house with makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:08 PM
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no babe, the lifts stay ON during sex 😎 in all honesty first impressions matter the most and i doubt that they would notice or care if and when you've gotten to the point where you're taking your shoes off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:07 PM
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Nah your foot would fall out lmao you have to use it with boots or high tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:05 PM
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Who said anything about marriage? who want to date vapid and shallow women So most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:05 PM
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That's why you have to use them with high-tops or boots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:04 PM
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I've heard people hype those up but I doubt it's a significant difference, they are just regular shoes after all and not designed to make people appear taller, and they're low tops so there's not much room for height increase. Literally all shoes or boots will increase your height but everyone wears them so it's not like it matters. Shoe lifts increase your height by 1-2 inches on top of the standard height increase of footwear. You're 1-2 inches taller in the same shoe or boot compared to not w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:04 PM
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Most women have fathers, brothers, friends, and previous boyfriends and know how tall men are. I'm not sure what you mean by this. Different men are different heights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:58 PM
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Every little bit helps. A 5'5" guy with lifts is still going to be short. If you're 5'10" 5'11" though the height boost from lifts can enable you to more convincingly say that you're 6' or 6'1". In Canada and the US 6' is an important height milestone for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:58 PM
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Height is "important shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:56 PM
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I guess you just can't let them find out them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:55 PM
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Every little bit helps
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:55 PM
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Why are you against men lying about their height?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:13 PM
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I don’t care about “women’s image” either. Sure you don't......
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:11 PM
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6' is an important height milestone for guys so if you're 5'11" it makes sense to just lie, no shoe lifts needed. Like she was just obsessed with a specific number. The benefits of shoe lifts is that they actually make you look taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:53 PM
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And 2, the average age difference being a couple years and most of those being older men means that most of those couples in the late 20s/early 30s would look like less single women in their 20s vs. single men in their 20s… I’m not sure what’s confusing you about this? Late 20s women dating men older than 30 is a tiny fraction of all women under 30. I also don’t care about single young men. Oh I know you don't, but you definitely care about women's image. The point is that the data makes sense g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:43 PM
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1-2 inches might not be noticeable, and in Canada and the US at least many people keep their shoes on in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:38 PM
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I seriously doubt that. This data) presented by 538 indicates that the average age difference for all heterosexual US couples is only 2.3 years, and a fair number of couples involve an older woman and a younger man. And for younger couples(people in their 20s and 30s), the average age difference would be even smaller than that. It's funny how PPD women always hate on age gaps and argue that women prefer guys their own age until it comes to data on young men being single and/or sexless. Then y'al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:14 PM
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So they should lose out on pay and work for something they have no control over Not if you can power through the pain and go to work anyways. But if you can't then it's not fair fair for you to be paid without working when I have to work to get paid. Period pain is a you problem. Or be forced to use all their vacation days and rarely get an actual holiday? What a great solution. Or they can look for a job that allows for more paid sick leave or unpaid leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:13 AM
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But since you feel strongly about this, what is your recommendation to people with such bad period cramps they're unable to work? Unpaid sick leave or use vacation time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:31 AM
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I specifically didn't reference sex and simply said 'people who menstruate'. Only who people who can ejaculate semen should be allowed be vote. Not sexist btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:39 AM
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Because you're treating people differently on the basis of sex? Equality is equal treatment not the same outcome. If boys were given a grade boost because male brains mature slower you wouldn't call that equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:26 AM
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Most people (US) are one paycheck away from homelessness He was talking about men specifically, half of all Americans are women. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:10 AM
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This balances out a biological disadvantage that people who menstruate have. "Balancing out" biological disadvantages is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 07:07 AM
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Is not saying it is a holiday. You are leaving work (to go on holiday) and still getting paid, does that make you weak? No, it's a break from work. Period pains mean that you can't work, or at least would have a lot of trouble working well, for several days a month. How would you respond if every single Spanish woman refused to have kids, and instead focused to be as "strong" as men in the corporate world? I don't know, how would I respond if it started raining elephants?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:00 PM
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The fact that you think some pain meds would help with endo proves your ignorance on the subject. Using pain meds for endo is common. You were probably looking for an excuse to call me ignorant just because I dared to talk about female biology. IF it is legitimately documented and doesn’t interfere significantly with work. There's no way to empirically prove how severe someone's period pain are. Anyone can claim they have really painful periods. And you can't rely on diagnosable conditions like …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:10 PM
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Treating sexes differently to compensate for biological differences is still discriminatory. If boys got a grade boost in school because their mental maturation is slower than girls you would call that discriminatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:04 PM
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That has nothing to do with ADA accommodations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:02 PM
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This assumes men and women (which groups so large are a poor indicator anyway) are as productive as each other as a baseline. Those who claim that women are equally capable tend to argue that there are no significant differences in capability and productivity between men and women. There has been talk about 4 day working weeks and the working from home COVID put us under - what is clear here is productivity isn't all about hours worked and office time That depends on the job. Imo reasonable acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:59 PM
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When people take their paid holidays do they prove they are weak? It's not a holiday, it's monthly debilitation that can't be scheduled. Then you'd foam out of your mouth about how Spain is getting fucked by feminazis. No I wouldn't, don't put words in my mouth. I myself don't want kids and I have nothing against people who choose not to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:54 PM
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That's irrelevant to the topic and question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:52 PM
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Do you have any scientific research to support these rather far-fetched claims you're making?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:52 PM
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Having children is a choice, menstruation is not. This also assumes that hours spent at work automatically equals productivity, which I don’t believe is reasonable in all industries. Not always but generally yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:49 PM
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I've had three drinks within a span of a few minutes and was still perfectly fine. Regardless it's not like he was measuring precisely so we have no idea how much she actually drank. But from what he told us it sounds 110% consensual. Like most chicks are not that sexually assertive, this actually sounds quite exceptional if he's not exaggerating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:26 AM
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If the primary reason tall people are more confident than shorter people is due to how others treat them(I think it is, what else could it be?) then why isn't it plausible that taller people are treated better in the workplace?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:24 AM
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There has been a lot of research done on this topic, and different studies have come to different conclusions about the causes of the earnings gap. I don't think one Wikipedia paragraph cuts it. Regardless, according to the study(p. 435) the difference in earnings between women at least 1 standard deviation taller than average and women at least 1 standard deviation shorter than average is 5-10k a year depending on the study(they compared three). The standard deviation for women's height is arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:21 AM
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The author does mention confidence actually: Judge offers a possible explanation for the height bias: Tall people may have greater self-esteem and social confidence than shorter people. In turn, others may view tall people as more leader-like and authoritative. But let me ask you this, if you think it's only confidence, then why is it that short people are less confident than tall people. Do you think it arose in a vacuum? Is it not true that one's confidence and self-esteem is in large part inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:45 AM
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I was an alcoholic once, and I would black out for days at a time. I would have fully functional conversations, go to work, hell, I’d end up in different countries sometimes. And anything you did without coercion during those black outs I would regard as 100% consensual. We done here? I could recite Shakespeare or read Faust aloud with a .4 BAC. Doesn’t mean I was sober enough to understand what I was reciting though. Dude if you blacked out by definition you can't remember what it was like. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:40 AM
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If she can't talk properly Where does he suggest that she couldn't "talk properly"? you've watched her neck two drinks Two drinks is not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:39 AM
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Are you sure? I can't find any articles about Mexico doing it, only Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:24 AM
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because I’m curled up in a fetal position in pain for hours Sounds rough. Have you considered trying stronger pain medications like opioids?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:21 AM
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Does she not use any pain medications?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:20 AM
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Why are women "owed" more benefits than men? If their current paid sick days are not enough for period leave then why not take unpaid leave or use vacation time? That's the issue here. Even if you think work culture is too cutthroat, I think most people would agree that people who work more should be paid more, it's like a no brainer. If you're take period leave every month or every other month and can't make up missed work, the burden will fall on your coworkers. Wouldn't it be more fair to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:04 AM
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It’s also unfair for them to have a medical condition that disables them so frequently. I disagree, it's unlucky, not unfair. "Unfair" implies being treated unjustly. Regardless I don't care to debate semantics, my point was that it's unjust. In the US, the ADA mandates that private employers with at least 15 employees cannot fire or refuse to hire a person because of a disability unless an exception applies. They’re also required to provide reasonable accommodations to help them meet job requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:53 AM
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You haven't provided evidence to substantiate your claim that most women aren't allowed to or don't use sick days for menstrual pain. And according to this research paper from Australia, the disparity you're referring to largely disappears when they researchers controlled for industry and occupation. Furthermore, can you rule out the possibility that employers don't penalize female employees for underperforming or being irritable at work if they suspect that they are on their period?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:50 AM
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Women do the same things men do, while suffering on their periods. Do you have any data on job performance of women while they're on their periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:43 AM
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Why? Isn't it unfair that the rest of us have to pick up their slack at work? And why should they get paid the same if they're working less? Women with severe menstrual pain should take unpaid leave or use their vacation time if their paid days aren't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:40 AM
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I agree but I have a feeling women(or at least women who get debilitating periods regularly) will complain because they will view it as men getting more vacation time than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:39 AM
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Again, you're making several unsubstantiated claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:37 AM
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perhaps companies should also avoid hiring short men, especially for leadership or management positions They're already doing this....... Tall men are regarded as being more capable and better leaders 🤷‍♀️ I mean you're literally saying it yourself. Tall men are regarded as better leaders, obviously this would translate into hiring and promotion decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:24 AM
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I have over 60 days accrued right now and get 10 more added every year. Congrats, you're a healthy person. My post isn't about people like you. There's a very good chance that 10 days a year would not be enough for a woman who regularly takes menstrual leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:23 AM
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Most women work while in this kind of distress and still do decent work Do they? How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:21 AM
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holy shit that rapey af
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:19 AM
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chad only
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:18 AM
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Would you also say that companies should fire anyone who gets cancer? I probably wouldn't hire someone who has cancer and needs regular sick leave. That's a better comparison. Clearly any physical symptoms that interfere with productivity signal basic lack of capability. The more often you are incapacitated the less capable and productive you are. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:16 AM
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If paid sick leave is part of your compensation, you should take as many days as you need. That's usually not how paid sick leave works. Most policies have a limit. Your salary package is meant to benefit you and help retain your employment, not make your employer more money. You're missing the point. If you're taking a lot of paid sick leave you're working less, which makes you a worse employee. Even if they did have an unlimited paid sick leave policy they would obviously and rightfully prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:14 AM
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You're talking about paid sick days? As I said, that's even worse. A woman who needs to take sick leave regularly for menstrual pain, while being paid the same amount as her male counterparts, represents the same cost to the employer for less work done. Clearly the worse employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:54 AM
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That’s what sick leave is… I’m pretty sure all first-world countries except US have sick leave requirements. Sick leave here in Ontario is not required to be paid. If an employee is unable to work due to being in debilitating pain - what would you have them do? Quit their job? Come to work, but not actually work and just spend the time in the restroom in pain? Or use some of their sick/disability/menstrual leave? I would say to just treat it as a criteria for sick leave under the current sick le…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:51 AM
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I don't think you realize how debilitating (some) menstrual cycles can be. Own goal. If many women are debilitated for several days a month then that makes them less capable. My point exactly. For instance, in the case of ulcerative colitis, men are much more likely to have it than women. They can have debilitating symptoms that take them out of work as well but it's not the entire gender of men that has to deal with cases of it monthly, so it's more than likely except in extreme cases covered b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:41 AM
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Peoples appearance can change with age, shocking I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:38 AM
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That was the main point. As per OP she stopped both times when OP reached for the 😺 and she confided that she was insecure about not being shaved. When he cleared it up it was all fine and dandy they did the deed. What "mixed signals"? Smartest woman on PPD be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:37 AM
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That mixed signals happened She was insecure about her bush and OP told her that it didn't matter. So what? That's insignificant. And bitches play coy all the time. and proceeded to feed us and/or himself a definitely convincing explanation about going through with the sex for her sake. Yeah that hamstering alone makes OP an unreliable narrator in my eyes. It would be one thing if he admitted to proceeding because he was horny and wanted to get laid. From his retelling(and we have to accept it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:27 AM
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Someone can appear more lucid than they are All it takes is you talking to them. So like I said before, you err on the side of caution There's a BIG gap between being above the legal blood alcohol limit for driving and not being lucid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:13 AM
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We all know that false rape accusations happen. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:13 AM
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How old were you when you met?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:04 AM
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At a certain point, a person cannot consent. When they're not lucid. Define “lucid” though They have their fundamental cognitive faculties. They can perceive the world around them, listen, and talk. like someone may be able to grunt “yes” and “no” In the story OP told her words were more sophisticated than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:59 AM
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I never said it was necessarily foolproof. But it definitely has evidentiary value. It would be foolproof if they were recording surreptiously with a security camera or something. any person that thinks they have a document to back up you actually did consent is rapey as fuck. You’re fucking the wrong people, you’re doing something in the bedroom that’s suspicious, or you’re delusional and paranoid. It's not paranoia in this culture where feminist activists and movements are pushing for society …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:57 AM
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People can change their minds you know. Just like how someone who initially consents can revoke it, someone who is initially hesitant can also change their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:37 AM
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(turned out he had a gf). You didn't tell her? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:34 AM
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Give me a break, she was the one making sexual advances on HIM. She ASKED him to fuck her. It doesn't get clearer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:33 AM
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knowing full well these women probably wouldn’t do it otherwise. Whether they would consented had circumstances been different is irrelevant. The only relevant question is if they did in fact consent. That's like saying ugly chicks who look good due to makeup commit rape if guys they have sex with wouldn't have done it if she wasn't wearing makeup. Ridiculous. I’d say a good rule of thumb is if you wouldn’t get in the car with them driving Usually DDs are expected to not drink at all and be comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:29 AM
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how do we change your mind on something that is factually correct? It generally doesn't fit the legal definition of rape but many progressive/feminist leaning individuals personally consider it to be rape or sexual assault. Presumably that's who this CMV is directed towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:26 AM
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Why? It's the only way men can help prove that it was consensual and protect themselves from false rape accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:25 AM
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You think three years of social isolation More like one year. And it's been almost two years now since the vaccines rolled out and restrictions were lifted. Not to mention all the people who still have to socially distance if they are immunocompromised or if they visit someone who is? Well the vast majority of people aren't anymore. Respiratory infections have always existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:23 AM
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That's clearly not what he was talking about in example I was referring to. You can tell because people were pointing out that it's just sex for a favor. So he made another edit with another example: the professors to grade a hot girl worse than the other students if she doesn't have sex with him. That last example he came up with is what you're thinking of. But I wasn't responding to that, he made that edit after I initially responded to him. Compare the edit and edit 2 and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:19 AM
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Research empirically shows that women are far more sexually selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:11 PM
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Some men can Most men can't. and apparently mean that no men have options I never said that "no men have options". Don't put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:59 PM
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Yes, that's the point. In the example that was given she is being graded the exact same way as other students are, and is failing. She is offered sex in exchange for a boost which would allow her to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:59 PM
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I can't speak for any woman except myself You literally just did "Women don't see it that way" If you were speaking for yourself you would have said "I don't see it that way" Not all women see it that way Many women do men make a choice to tolerate women that do. Men can't afford to be as picky as you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:42 PM
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People who are 18-24 are almost entirely zoomers. 30% of zoomers live at home. There are plenty of places you can have sex and most parents are not always home. Also I think you aren't considering the wrench COVID The Pew data was very recent, the article was posted just this February. Significant pandemic restrictions in the US have been gone for a year and a half now. The GSS data was from before the pandemic. And the more important thing to note is the disparities between males and females.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:27 PM
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whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:25 PM
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The way he worded it indicates that she would need special treatment to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:09 PM
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Getting laid, we're not talking about being single or not. The two are closely related. Casual sex does not come easily for most guys. Also 18-24 isn't the tiny age range we're talking about either. If men aren't good enough for women until they're older and start earning more, then they're betabuxxing. Not everything is fine and dandy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:08 PM
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That might be the case if she were exchanging sex for extra credit. That's literally what was being described. Have you ever gone to college? Do you know what a "curve" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 06:50 PM
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Ok, I really don't give a shit if you don't like the analogy I made. You said it yourself that you understood the point I was making so there's no need for hand wringing. If you're not going to address the actual point then there's no point in continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 06:49 PM
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so again, you think child molesters and promiscuous women have things in common? Child molesters are humans, they have things in common with all of us. you make the active choice to compare promiscuity (promiscuity in women, to be specific) to one of the most evil acts one could commit, why is that? Because the possibility of child molesters re-offending is the perfect example of past behavior predicting future behavior, and it's one that would be understandable to most people. Most of us aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 06:23 PM
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A gf living with a guy is not the same, because it’s implied she at least likes him. We don't know how she feels about him. And sometimes gold-diggers get with guys they don't really like for their money. OP knows there isn’t attraction whatsoever He never specified. Prostitution doesn’t require money, plenty of prostitutes that do it for drugs rather than straight money. That's still goods exchanging hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:59 PM
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Yes, I am making a comparison. No, I am not saying they are the exact same, or that their actions are equally bad. That's how comparisons work. You compare two DIFFERENT things and draw certain similarities between them. A comparison doesn't entail insisting two things are very similar or identical. You're derailing the topic anyways. Do you think the research on the link between promiscuity and relationship satisfaction and infidelity is incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:50 PM
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Most people who have gfs/bfs or are regularly getting laid aren't fit (in the US at least). Even in their twenties. I'm so tired of this gaslighting. According to Pew, two-thirds of men under 30 describe themselves as "single". According to this analysis of GSS data, a third of men aged 18-24 reported no sex in the past year, with another 10% reporting only having one or two sexual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:48 PM
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what’s that called if not manipulation? Prostitution. If I’m a college professor and an attractive girl needs a curve to pass the class and I suggest verbally off the record that her chance of a curve is directly proportional to my access to her curves "My access to her curves" 🤣 I would call that exchanging sex for favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:22 PM
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No, the "nature" I was referring to was simply that past behavior is a good(not perfect, good) predictor of future behavior. That applies to both child molesters and promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:20 PM
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The difference is in degree not nature. Promiscuous women are more likely to cheat and less likely to be satisfied in a monogamous relationships. It's possible that they have changed but it's hard for you to know. You have no way of being confident that they're telling the truth if they claim they've changed. So all else being equal, it makes sense for men to prefer less promiscuous women for serious relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:08 PM
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People can change but past behavior is a still a predictor of future behavior. You wouldn't hire a convicted child molester to babysit your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:00 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xqbfyi/not_only_is_past_promiscuity_a_good_predictor_of/ One study notes promiscuity better predicts infidelity in females than males. Probably because it's easier for women to get sex than men. So for women promiscuity is more of an indicator of her preferences whereas for men promiscuity is more of an indicator of his desirability. Then absolves all men for the same behaviour. I've never seen TRP say that women shouldn't have a preference for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:57 PM
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u/nonfake_account are they sexually exclusive? Or is she still working as an escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:12 PM
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It's not uncommon for guys to let their girlfriends live with them rent-free, especially if they're wealthy and/or own their home. Men being providers is absolutely considered normal. IMO it only starts going into "prostitution" territory when money is being exchanged. I would just call this gold-digging. Yeah she might be a hoe but he's not paying her per se.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:02 PM
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I just do
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:59 PM
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Who TF goes on dates at Olive Garden? That's for families.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 10:21 PM
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Fixed it for you. Not entirely. Many/most guys will take girls out to dinner dates regularly. Travel is definitely a more significant expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:52 PM
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The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:11 AM
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Do PPD men claim that most women are "hypergamous", or literally all women are "hypergamous"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:46 AM
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You're missing the point. You're portraying Ukrainian men as heroes when many of them are conscripts who were literally barred from leaving the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:36 AM
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This is coming from the sex that will never be compelled to perform military service. "Empathetic sex btw teehee".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:29 AM
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I agree, their demographic situation is probably the worst in the world. They're already screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:28 AM
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Right, it seems like you're just trying to derail the topic from age-gaps into baselessly bashing men, like so many PPD women do. We're done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:14 AM
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Men degrading women What do you mean by this? men getting women pregnant with no good intentions I doubt men would want to baby trap they're casually dating, it's more likely to happen in serious relationships. And do you have any evidence for the prevalence of baby trapping by men? Are women less likely to baby trap men? men not even pleasuring the woman. Most women derive some level of pleasure from penetrative sex alone even if it isn't enough to bring them to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:59 AM
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It’s often because the men claim all women do it Can you give a singular example of a man on PPD claiming that literally all women think or act a certain way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:16 AM
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Those kind of things happen in committed relationships. Sexual exclusivity and cohabitation are not prerequisites for a man to spend money on a woman. In casual relationships you might go out for dinner every once in a blue moon maybe Well off guys can and do take women they're dating/fucking out to nice restaurants regularly. it's a horrible thing. It is work. Work is a horrible thing? The vast majority of people work. Anyone who's financially coerced into sex or relationships is a victim. "Coe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:40 PM
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How do they involve a gold-digging element? They don't involve any significant purchases If an older guy is taking you out to dinner all the time, buying you nice things, or even helps to pay your bills, that's gold-digging. Most people would only gold dig if they're desperate for money. Not necessarily, maybe they just like nice things and/or don't want to work. indeed they generally weaponise that to get the young person in the first place. "Weaponise"? Gold-diggers know what they're doing and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:14 PM
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Weren't we talking about casual relationships? No or very little money involved there so it literally doesn't matter. Casual relationships can still involve a gold-digging element. Not to mention more money means even more social power to take advantage of others. Gold diggers aren't the ones being "taken advantage" of lol. No one's pressuring them into doing it. Nor are they naive and helpless. If you're dating older men for their money that's quite cunning and calculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:02 PM
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Speak for yourself, not everyone is as jealous as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 07:16 PM
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No it is not that simple. It's complicated if you make it complicated and insist on a clearly defined, purely sexual, relationship with no affection or non-sexual interactions allowed whatsoever. Have you never heard of a situationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:42 PM
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Domestic abuse, trap her financially first then socially Can you read? This post is about casual relationships, not serious cohabitating relationships. That's not going to happen if they're not cohabitating. So long as young women don't shack up with older guys they will maintain their independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:38 PM
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There's also the fact that older men tend to have more money and many young women who date older guys are gold diggers. In those cases, if anything he would be the one getting taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:32 PM
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I think it's undignified personally, but if you're genuinely unattractive and can't live without sex and relationships I understand. If it makes you happy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:14 PM
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they want someone they think is trainable and it usually pairs with wanting her to be less educated and make less money (ie less independent). This is irrelevant for casual relationships. If you're just hooking up or FWB by definition it's not involved enough for you to want to "train" anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:13 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:12 PM
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The guys I know who are into hooking up casually tend to avoid younger women. They say it's because their experience with that sort of stuff is often limited and they're not great at understanding the boundaries and rules that go with casual. What rules? It's just a non-monogamous sexual relationship, that's all there is to it. She seemed to basically see casual as a trial period for an actual relationship I think women start pushing for more commitment and seeking more serious relationships as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:11 PM
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fitting flair tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:59 PM
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Lots of casual sex is from your social circles so this is important Do you have any evidence to support this? If anything most people view meeting through OLD and meeting people in bars/nightclubs as being more geared towards more casual relationships. 18-22 year olds who aren't attending residential universities in college towns can easily have social circles that include older people. Dating apps, bars etc all exist but people still tend to group to ones that suit their age groups and peers, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:56 PM
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You have access to the internet yourself. If you're making the claim the burden of proof is on you. And more importantly, the existence of statistical evidence in this regard doesn't justify sweeping statements and assumptions about whether young women find older men they're dating attractive or not. If she was really pressured, she can be pressured enough to see him again. It's very hard to apply pressure when you're not physically with someone. There's no leverage to get her to agree to anothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:50 PM
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I strongly suspect that as well but we can't read minds. This goes both ways though, older women critical of age gaps who claim they feel that way because they care younger women can't prove that they're telling the truth and they're not just bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:35 PM
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There are also studies where women are asked how attractive they find men of different ages. Can you link them? And of course, pressure can be repeated If she was pressured into sex despite not liking him she wouldn't see him again. and someone can get trapped. People don't get "trapped" in relationships if they haven't shacked up and grown dependent.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:27 PM
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Did I trigger you somehow? No, the last part was just a pre-emptive statement in anticipation of you trying to argue that older women are as attractive or more attractive than younger women. Beauty is normative, if you feel that way whatever, but your personal evaluations of beauty are not relevant because I'm talking about men's preferences, generally. It’s unlikely to ever work out casually for an older man/younger women since they are in completely different social circles and at different st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:24 PM
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Let’s say I own our domicile. Can you read? I was explicitly not talking about serious, cohabitating, relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:22 PM
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Because she finds him attractive, and/or because he has more money and spoils her? Why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:21 PM
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I can speak to all observational and statistical evidence that says young women find younger men hottest. What evidence? The only statistical evidence on this that I'm familiar is merely data showing that serious age gap relationships are uncommon(specifically people were asked about their current partner, I doubt respondents would count a hookup, FWB, or situationship). Firstly, I'm not talking about serious relationships. Secondly, the actual prevalence of these relationships arguably isn't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:16 PM
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really believed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:46 PM
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She legit told me a 5’0” man and a 6’0” man are equally attractive to her. I have a very, very, hard time believing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:41 PM
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Cause unfortunately in most cases when it’s an older man and younger women it’s rarely a casual thing I'd think that if anything it's more likely to be casual. Older dudes might have flings and hookups with younger women but marry and have a family with a more established older woman. otherwise why don’t they just have that with people their own age If you're a woman this comment really shows a lack of empathy and understanding for what it's like to be a man. Men can't afford to pick and choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:40 PM
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and trust me, older men are not looking hot to younger women. You can only speak for yourself. This suggests that there may be manipulation or pressuring going on. Not unless the parents are the ones who arranged the match. "Manipulation"(however you define that) and pressuring by a partner only works if you like them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:35 PM
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You: They are buying their own properties and living in them themselves. The article: single women own a total of around 10.76 million homes That works out to like 1/12 of the the US adult female population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:31 AM
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How many men have ever asked you out? How many men have you ever asked out and how many of them rejected you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:22 PM
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Rejecting ugly or average guys because they're pining for chad doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:00 PM
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How many ugly girls do you know that can't get a relationship? Rejecting ugly or average guys because they're pining for chad doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:31 PM
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Men expect to split all bills 50/50 This is irrelevant in marriage because by definition it involves combining combining assets and finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:30 PM
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If they did their community wouldn’t have fallen off. It quarantined, then banned. Because a man who went his own way doesn’t need to identify as MGTOW, doesn’t need to announce that he’s MGTOW, and sure as fuck doesn’t need to explain why he went his own way. You're ignoring what I wrote. You can live the lifestyle without talking about it, but if you want other men to follow in your footsteps it makes sense to talk about it and to have a community to discuss it. A real man would just go Anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:18 PM
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If you really went your own way "Go your own way" in this context just means not getting in serious relationships with women. you wouldn’t give two shots about what’s going on Caring about other men and trying to convince them to do the same is not mutually exclusive with "going your own way". People happy where they are and in good places don’t sit around being bitter and talking about where “they left” People can be bitter over past experiences even if their lives are currently pretty good. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:05 PM
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Women's behavior is a big part of why MGTOW thinks men should avoid serious commitment, obviously it's relevant to promoting their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:44 PM
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Women evolved to be more selective than men due to higher parental investment /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:04 PM
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An average-looking guy is a "terrible" option?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:32 AM
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If someone thinks that marriage and serious relationships are bad for men, then it makes sense that they would want to encourage other men to follow suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:16 AM
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Do women actually think they're the more intelligent sex? That's so cute and pathetic lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:50 AM
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their brains pump out goofy juice when they interact with chad. which disables the misogyny detectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:48 AM
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Men don't get to decide
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:07 AM
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So most women. Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:19 AM
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particularly after having children as the hormones from that process often accentuates their femininity and curves. Women get fat after having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:03 AM
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and nobody ever provides any kind of evidence for their positions anyways outside of personal anecdotes redpillers and blackpillers post research to support their stances all the time. only the w*men and the simps by and large don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:53 PM
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What about styling your hair. Putting in gel, styling it back, spiking it, curling it up to give it waves. That's also superficial but IMO it's a much more subtle difference. Especially for men, most of us typically don't drastically style our hair. Although that’s not them being in their natural state I never said anything about it being "unnatural", I said it was "superficial". There's a difference. If someone got a nosejob it wouldn't be "natural" strictly speaking but it's not a superficial …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:48 PM
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About 300+ matches…. we are pretty open so I asked her about how many guys she had fucked since starting it 4 months ago. Including me, 3. 3/360. 3 out of 360. Hundreds of dms ignored. holy shit that's brutal. even if you're lucky enough to get a match you get ignored. is she particularly attractive or just mid. what would you rate her out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:54 AM
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wordswordswordswordswords
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:51 AM
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In the case of orphans and abused children Bullshit, your prophet and many of his companions had wives that didn't fall into either category. Hell, your prophet WAS the child abuser......
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:08 AM
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Lemme get this straight, so you think the solution to soft polygyny is....... A religion that expressly permits polygyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:58 AM
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Your hair doesn't get washed away by water.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:56 AM
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Why would they feel the need to be "polite" discussing these topics in abstract online with strangers? Sure, it might be impolite to tell a guy who asks you out that he's ugly, but that's not they're doing. They're lying and virtue signaling on a massive scale on forums such as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:28 PM
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Every single w*man here yelling about how "I don't need an excuse to reject men" or how "there's nothing wrong with rejecting men I'm not attracted to" clearly cannot fucking read. OP never said otherwise. I don't think there's anything wrong with women chasing chad, reject however many men you want. But clearly you think so, judging by how hard you virtue signal and deny it. How you claim, in the face of all evidence, that women don't value appearance in men and emphasize "pErSoNaLiTy". How, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:23 PM
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I personally don't think it's "bad". But since women virtue signal so hard that they're not like this and accuse us misogyny when we say they are, you clearly think it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:14 PM
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Not a huge difference. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:08 PM
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More women are on antidepressants/anti anxiety meds than men, and according to the study the percentage gets higher the older demographics skew. The scariest part is that the rest of them are running around free and unmedicated
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:48 PM
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You're literally using pro-life rhetoric right now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:05 PM
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The reason is because women care more about a guy's personality than his looks Good one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUD3V1TA1YY alright fellas we gotta assign shifts for short gymcel suicide watch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:51 PM
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Most women here think and say this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:36 AM
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I think a lot of guys my age are less trusting of women and more open-minded to this kind of stuff. Look at how people were bitching about boys idolizing Andrew Tate. Granted, I don't really agree with his ideas but still. Hopefully this generation of men is the generation that wakes up 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:27 AM
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What does that have to do with anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:23 AM
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just have a perfect skull shape bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:33 AM
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If it ain't snowing I ain't going
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:27 AM
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I'm sure it happens but chances are, if he didn't want to be a dad he would said so in the hopes that she would abort it or give it up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:25 AM
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I think we have a duty to share knowledge of AF/BB with other guys as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:24 AM
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That's hardly enough to explain the massive between men and women under 30 who report being single. This data) presented by 538 indicates that the average age difference for all heterosexual US couples is only 2.3 years, and a fair number of couples involve an older woman and a younger man. And for younger couples(people in their 20s and 30s), the average age difference would be even smaller than that. You are the perfect example of what I was talking about. In the past you have consistently dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:03 AM
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Exactly. TWICE as many men under 30 report being single compared to women in the same age cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:59 AM
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inshallah bro best of luck 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:58 AM
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-the-average-age-difference-in-a-couple/#:~:text=The%20average%20age%20difference%20(for,12%20months%20apart%20in%20age. This 538 article states that the average age gap for heterosexual couples in the US was only 2.3 years, according to CPS data from 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:47 AM
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Right, big surprise there, I'm completely shocked to hear this I tell you. On a serious note, it goes without saying that all the mongs who said shit like: "most guys are doing fine, average women pair up with average men, it's all in your head inkwell teehee" were lying through their teeth. Now we got that out of the way, the Pew data does seem to be consistent with core "manosphere" beliefs. Far fewer older men report being single compared to me under 30. Many men who were unsuccessful with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 08:08 AM
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Statistically men cost insurance companies more so men pay higher insurance premiums, so that's the justification. This is pretty clear cut discrimination. Imagine charging African-Americans or American Indians higher life insurance premiums because of their higher mortality. That wouldn't' fly. So men can work the same, contribute the same, and live in Canada for the same amount of time but receive less CPP benefits. That's not strictly speaking discriminatory. Men pay more because men earn mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:47 AM
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^
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:38 AM
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happy early birthday!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:15 AM
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I don't even expect women to care about men's issues, as long as they're not hostile towards us they're okay in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:14 AM
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how old are you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:13 AM
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Me when a female older than 25 calls herself a "girl": 😬😬😬😬 Ok grandma, it's time for bed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:51 AM
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Yeah, it's important to note that only 34% of women under age 30 report being single. So we have to explain that discrepancy. I think it's a combination of young women dating older men, and different parties viewing the same relationship differently. Say a guy and a girl are in a situationship without an official label. Maybe he still considers himself "single" whereas she takes things more seriously and describes herself as being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:50 AM
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It's easy to shame men for being "deadbeat dads" when you have to freedom to unilaterally opt out of parenthood with abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:26 AM
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My point was that, chances are "deadbeat daddies" exist because they never wanted to be a father but the baby momma chose to keep it anyways. Not because they broke any kind of promises.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:25 AM
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sounds like betabux coping to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:16 AM
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YouTube does count as “on camera”, and can have videos with filters. I doubt they would selectively use filters only in scenes with makeup. And for any shots that aren't close up, it's not that different from seeing someone in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:27 AM
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Well that's not where my perception comes from, it mainly comes from seeing what female youtube vloggers look like with and without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:08 AM
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I often hear the sentiment that men don’t like women wearing makeup, and prefer a woman who wears light or no makeup. I think men who say things like that are mostly virtue-signaling. Either that or they're thinking of very noticeable and prominent makeup, such as heavy eye makeup and bright lipstick. As opposed to makeup that looks "natural" and conceals flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:05 AM
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Regardless that statute predates DeSantis so you're going off topic and trying to shift the goalposts when you got called out on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:15 AM
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I'd have to believe single mothers didn't coparent "single moms with deadbeat baby daddies." Please read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:13 AM
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An unconstitutional law. "A person may not knowingly sell, rent, or loan for monetary consideration to a minor … any book, pamphlet, magazine, printed matter however reproduced, or sound recording that contains any matter defined in s. 847.001, explicit and detailed verbal descriptions or narrative accounts of sexual excitement, or sexual conduct and that is harmful to minors. … Any person violating any provision of this section commits a felony of the third degree." You think this is unconstitu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:54 AM
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I think it would be the most common way women would become single moms with deadbeat baby daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:54 AM
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Tall bitches dating "struggles" be like: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/345/746/860.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:06 AM
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the constant cuck and simp-shaming are prime examples of men tearing eachother apart This is tough love. We're telling simps not to bend over and sacrifice everything for bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:05 AM
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They're warning teachers about a pre-existing felony.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:01 AM
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I'm sure women are visual to but it doesn't seem as important and they aren't trying to get sex as much as men are. Maybe you're just not very good looking To me it's more about how you make a woman feel and signs of you being a good potential father and raising her kids. Betabuxxmaxxing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:49 AM
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chad only
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:47 AM
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https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/ The new bill does not introduce any new felonies. Rather, educators were warned about a pre-existing felony statute as part of their training: A person may not knowingly sell, rent, or loan for monetary consideration to a minor … any book, pamphlet, magazine, printed matter however reproduced, or sound recording that contains any matter defined in s. 847.001, explicit and detailed verbal descriptions or narrative accounts of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:44 AM
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You believe teachers should be charged with a felony for exercising free speech and I do not. In what world does "freedom of speech" entail a right for government employed teachers to teach what they like to their students? By your logic a teacher has the right to teach Mein Kampf and National Socialism to their students 🤡🤡🤡🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:33 AM
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And there is a difference made between women whose husbands died versus women who just had babies just because promises were made and "I trusted him". More like women who either didn't tell the BDs, or kept it even after the BD made it clear that they didn't want to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:31 AM
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Typically, it’s been school librarians and English teachers who have managed school libraries, with some intervention at the school board level. Those people are part of the government. Now it’s managed at the state level and teachers who break the rules can be charged with a felony. You don’t see the difference? Those school librarians and English teachers were ALWAYS employed by the government. They're government employees being paid by the government to teach a government-sanctioned curriculu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:21 AM
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Who gets to decide what’s politically correct speech? In public schools? The government, as it always has. Were you up in arms over Mein Kampf not being available in public schools? This is the government deciding what kind of ideologies to make available in it's own institutions, hardly a restriction on freedom of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:09 AM
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No sane person would characterize government regulation of what kind of books are allowed in PUBLIC schools as censorship. It's a PUBLIC school, it's run by the government, of course it's up to the government what sort of books to provide in their schools. This has always been the case. You just don't agree with this specific government's restrictions on the basis of ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:04 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:00 AM
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I feel like when men on this sub say "women", in the context of dating, they generally mean relatively young, attractive women with no kids. Older women with kids are far less likely to be dating. Of course the focus is going to be on younger, childless, women when we're talking about dating. And I don't think the things we say apply exclusively to attractive women. Like for instance, how many women here can genuinely say they've never been asked out? How many women can genuinely say they've ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:47 PM
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like they've never been invited to a party House parties are more of a high school/college thing. gone to a concert or a music festival, comic con This is like a once or twice a year thing. a sports bar Sausage fest lol a bonfire party Again, he's not in high school anymore. has never gone to a street fair Falls under "on the street" dancing lessons Falls under "clubs and societies" singles events These barely exist anymore since the advent of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:46 PM
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"just be a celebrity bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:52 PM
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"just go out of your house and meet women bro, its that easy! just not in the office bro, women are there to work not flirt. neither at the gym bro, women are there to workout not get hit on. also not in clubs and societies bro, women are there to pursue their hobbies and not get annoyed by you hitting on them. also not on the street bro, thats just creepy. also not on old because thats just for hookups bro. also not in nightclubs bro since because women are shallow there. in conclusion, you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:49 PM
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very based copypasta. saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:48 PM
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Yes, anti-feminist women would be attracted to anti-feminist men. Women who are feminists can and do still hold sexist beliefs that can and do conflict with their beliefs. So you're shifting the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:09 PM
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I know a lot of enbys and women that'd find him attractive even if he was broke That's purely a hypothetical, how can they know that if he isn't actually broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:08 PM
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They should be shamed for having sex just because it requires no effort? Does the same apply for men who won the genetic lottery?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:50 AM
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but women are generally shamed for it Why should they be
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:45 AM
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Promiscuous men make sense, promiscuous women don't What's wrong with being promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:35 AM
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Me lol. The TRP community was absolutely overrun by tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:31 AM
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No. Military makes shit, for example. As do security guards, firemen, and police officers. I hope you realize that all these careers you mentioned are male-dominated which undermines your point. You couldn't be more incorrect about the military, as least in the US. The base salary isn't very high but the benefits are unmatched. All active duty military personnel in the US get free food, housing, and healthcare, so they barely have to spend any of their salary on essentials. All veterans are elig…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 03:27 AM
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Seriously, would you trust the average lowskilled construction worker to take care of your kids? People hire high school students to babysit their kids..... Why do you feel one is worth more money than the other? Give specifics. I never said that, don't put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:54 AM
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Women being physically weaker = patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:31 AM
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Clearly you didn't verify any sources lol. https://www.thesocietymanagement.com/society-women/9502-yumi-nu.web https://www.wilhelmina.com/los-angeles/women/curve/3144-yumi-nu No credible sources mention her weight. These are her portfolios for the agencies she works for and neither mentions her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:10 AM
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she's 5'11 160 Where did you get this from. The model's name is "Yumi Nu" and I couldn't find a credible source for her height and weight anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:42 AM
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C'mon, she was hot.curvy, sure, but hot. "Curvy" is a hell of an understatement, she's very clearly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:06 AM
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More accurate to say that shaving changes a man's appearance. Men naturally have facial hair and we have to cut it to be clean shaven.
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