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Your blue pill is showing because you instantly went to defending women when we're not even having that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:38 AM
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BP is arguably not pragmatic if you look at the divorce rates (both overall rate and % of women initiating divorce)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:08 AM
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If both people are relatively capable of an attraction based relationship, absolutely. I would settle down with the right woman, but meeting her seems to be getting harder - the ones that seem quite into me and also fit my bill are generally taken (often married) or off limits, and I'm not Mr. Stealyourgirl or Shitswhereieat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:35 AM
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No. Red pill isn't a label for guys that want to spin plates and do dark other triad shit like dread game or psychotic manipulation, so please find another one. It is just a belief system that is maybe a bit more critical and pragmatic than maybe you'd like about attraction and long-term success of relationships in the current dating landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:56 PM
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5 dice rolling the same number, with one reroll chance of whatever number of dice the roller wants You've never played yahtzee? holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:14 AM
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A reddit comment that got upvoted is going to be the source of my entire worldview Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:19 PM
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More like yahtzee odds
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:14 PM
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Peterson has lots of interesting points and harsh truth takes that sadly get lost to people getting butthurt over semantics and/or just disagreeing on principle and launching ad-hom attacks and slander.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:51 PM
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is dating a 23 year old at 29 weird to you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:59 PM
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Calculus is a great example. Thanks. You think they'd give upper level math and early calculus to a fresh grad? Like, I couldn't see a teacher being ready to even teach or deal with grade 12 students without years of teaching and maybe a double degree if they were doing calc or sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:51 PM
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Many? Come on now. They aren't giving high-school senior teacher positions out to younger teachers and fresh grads. They probably don't even consider someone qualified for teaching grade 12 students until they have at least a decade of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:33 AM
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His example is pretty much non-existent, or extreme hyperbole in the very odd case that there is a 22 year old teaching high school seniors.. When I was in high school, the youngest teacher I had in my senior year was like 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:37 PM
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PPD. I'm just curious why a person like you would visit such a toxic place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:19 PM
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That's literally what most women want. It's in innate tug of war where you're constantly trying to bitch a guy up. If you're doing nice things for your husband and the relationship is good, why do you need to be here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:16 PM
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Hockey, especially if you live close to a decent team to see live, is completely different from Love Island and The Bachelor. I agree that couples can find things to watch together where there is a balance. For watching hockey, your husband probably watches the odd romcom he's not overly into to make you happy - right? I see various couples where the guy puts some effort into appeasing the woman, and the woman makes zero effort to understand the sport or w/e piece of media the guy wants to watch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:42 PM
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Oof, duuuude. Not every guy gets sucked into "you have to watch my show with me", but a fucking lot of them do; that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:29 PM
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I get the pain you might be suffering, but I also get that men in many ways are encouraged to do this. There's very confusing messaging with it comes to how to pursue relationships. Lots of people will say to men "be her friend first," when they should be saying strike while the iron is hot when you meet a girl that likes you through friends. There's a reason show intent is such a popular piece of male dating advice... because a lot of guys get burned by believing that you should to befriend a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:12 AM
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It's not that dating is hard. It's that it's hilariously unpredictable, and a lot of guys see the "best option" as saving sunk costs by trying to salvage a relationship that is dying due to loss of mutual attraction on the woman's part. That's pretty much at the heart of all of these "my BF went redpill" stories - a guy trying to reignite the flame but getting a bit too carried away by becoming something she didn't sign up for. She was with him because he was BB, and him trying to be AF was the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:52 AM
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So you mostly agree? Then let's go a bit further, shall we? Are you suggesting that excuses women who take advantage of such a situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:50 AM
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a relationship is not a reward for good behavior Would it shock you if I told you boys and young men are essentially programmed to believe exactly the opposite? Save the damsel? Make her a queen??? Hello? And the kicker is that women will sometimes take advantage of men they know are crushing and hopeful - AKA Simps and orbiters
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:17 AM
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It's not even broken women that do this. That's such a tired assumption that you really can't prove any better than I could prove my side. It's not a hypermajority of women dating assholes either, but a sizeable enough amount of women in their 20s (AKA prime) will have really intense relationships witih these men. My best guess is it's 50:50 for women getting ruined by chad vs women who avoid the chad hedonism trap. The outlier is people who find a highschool sweetheart and shack up eventually. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 02:08 AM
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My experience is always that the women that show a lot of interest and are my type are... get ready for it... *drumroll* ... ALWAYS spoken for. It's always a damn tease or test with women, even the great ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:57 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:49 AM
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And a lot of women have it in them instinctually to try to tame a wild guy. Not sure if you were trying to go for the "it's only damaged women who do this" angle, because it's most certainly not. It's part of that motherly nurturing thing. She nurtures a beast into a dad, and then mostly focuses those nurturing skills on the offspring. It's innate. Even if a woman doesn't have children, she still has a nurturing instinct she directs somewhere. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:38 AM
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Simply put, a guy that has some roughness around the edges. It's sort of a blanket term for a guy who is exciting because of the fact that he doesn't follow the rules (social, or rules of law). Criminals are good examples, but not the definition. When they're attractive, heinous criminals certainly don't struggle for attention from women; even behind bars
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:04 PM
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If you ask me, guys do that when they feel their woman has lost respect or attraction but won't just leave. They get redpilled to try to save their relationship that has already soured, and make things worse in the process because the woman initially got with him because he was a bit softer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:54 PM
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So why do so many women choose trying to tame a rudeboy over dating pleasant mannered guys who follow the rules? The only thing "pleasant" about the bad boy is the chaos (excitement and dysfunction) and taboo in the case that he's a serious dirtbag, and those seem to be polar opposites of what you might define as pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:43 PM
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Lily plays a mean jazz flute
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:46 AM
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I think it's funny to picture it as if the woman was actually asking him out, but quickly saved face by adding friends when married came up. Plausible deniability. She wouldn't ask a guy at work to the restaurant on the weekend if she didn't really like him or see something. OP played it well: don't get mixed up with a gal at the office, especially when you're married. My question to OP is why are you not making friends or keeping old friendships? Did you throw a lot away to be with your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:41 AM
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It just means he'll have more capital to invest outside of the companies. Hopefully he doesn't buy a multi-billion dollar bond villain superyacht with nukes. Seriously though, why not cash out some stock while the market is starting to turn over a bit diversify into other ventures? The guy will probably try to get ahead of the next big thing, and that will take hundreds of billions of his own personal dollars. He tends to plan grand ventures. Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily a Musk fanboy…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:29 AM
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It's the $8 1000 calorie drinks from starbucks at least once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:53 AM
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But, can you not see that it's designed to do exactly that? and it seems to be working. People should just ignore these narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:47 AM
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"Yep, he just used tongue"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:44 AM
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It's just ragebait bro. Shes a social media diva that wants clicks and attention. You overcomplicate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:43 AM
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Exactly. Reading the room is becoming a player gymbro that's overly involved in hustle-culture and possibly also deals a bit of coke on the side. I'd rather do it my way, thanks; and the red pill has definitely opened my eyes to things Reading the room as a guy that actually wants a relationship in 2025 means some balance between a badboy and a niceguy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:37 PM
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The lockdowns might have something to do with that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:01 PM
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Definitely. She's chasing clout by dissing him years later and using the popular heightism angle to ragebait. Just let her fade back into obscurity. The more you talk about it, the more chances she has of "making it" on this weak attempt to be somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:55 PM
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Megan fox in the first transformers turned a lot of boys into men. Since then, I can't really say if there has been an "it girl."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:40 AM
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All of these guys would have looked a lot better if they got some sun and lifted weights, but that would have held them back from becoming the absolute tech-badboy billionaires that they are today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:36 AM
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This has to be a @ 21 and @ 30 photo or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:16 AM
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I mean besides the fact that she is now a cheater in my eyes, there's also this whole 'keeping a huge secret for 10 years' thing that is more than enough for me to question the foundation of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:07 PM
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Bingo. It's the confusion of "why does everything I've been told about women not align with my actual experiences with them" that causes a guy to seek out dating advice, and that's where they will find the red or black pill. If women and media were more honest about this shit, the pills wouldn't exist - they exist almost solely because people choose to parrot a comfortable lie instead of agreeing with a harsh truth, so men are rightfully confused when reality doesn't match up with how they are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:19 PM
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I remember the original cover there. The irony here is that it doesn't need the lines and all of that extra text to tell you what the scene doesn't already tell you. <s>The left can't meme</s>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:37 AM
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The outlier is the stat. People understand that high-calibre women can outgrow men and fall out of love and attraction, so they are more lenient on them when they cheat. It's an example that plays into my hypothesis of how I think cheating is way more normalized for women through media tropes and the like, and way more demonized for men through those same means. Titanic? Come on now... Shows that do it proper are things like Mad Men, that show that affairs are very bad both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:14 AM
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Just think: in 3 more days, you will have superpowers
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:12 AM
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Most guys become more handsome if they are willing to be really lean and in shape. Get that babyfat gone and bring out the sharp angles of the jaw and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:07 AM
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They're the fedora of footwear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:31 PM
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Chelsea boots are hideous
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:18 PM
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Women eat that shit up, so you can bet there will be pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:39 PM
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But it helps the PM look like they're doing a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:36 PM
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I;m thinking about thos beans
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:38 AM
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I've heard: "the day you stop being afraid of riding a motorcycle is the day you should stop riding"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:32 AM
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"I'm going to be unavailable for a while and see if he hangs on" If you can't see what I'm saying, then that's your loss
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:01 AM
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I pity the women that take this shit seriously. Who wants a relationship built on mindgames? That's fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:49 AM
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boom. this right here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:44 AM
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If nose hairs didn't serve a purpose, we wouldn't have them. No need to get all deep in there and remove it all. Just keep the gnarly danglers at bay with a small pair of scissors
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:53 AM
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Men get some thick long ones that grow straight out of the nostril and could be trimmed with a weedwhacker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:32 AM
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Spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:30 AM
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Rap is getting phased out, so that doesn't surprise me. Plus, the gang and homie culture behind rap is inherently patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:29 AM
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That's the thing, she's signalling disinterest and only keeping around the guys with no self-respect or options if she's intentionally playing hard to get. The guys women want aren't the guys that put up with this shit-test, and good luck convincing me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:15 AM
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We're the worst for that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:08 AM
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I disagree. I think no man needs to settle for a woman he's not attracted to, and women shouldn't either. Your argument is actually really good if you gender swapped it (and perhaps that is the entire point), but it's just nonsense to me because I know most guys aren't out here "settling" by dating women they find unattractive - you see this much more from women who find men to be mostly unattractive; but some will date that pug-ugly laywer or doctor and pretend to love him more than his payday …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:04 AM
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I will eventually. Calm down, woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:59 PM
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I disagree with both of you, because there's lots of women that do exactly what you said. It can't be taken as sarcasm, even though you might have intended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:56 PM
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Yes. I think men have all sorts of types (aka find a lot of different flavors of women attractive), and most wouldn't want to marry a woman they don't find attractive at all - aka not one of their many types. The OP seems to suggest that men settle with women they aren't attracted to because they have this one giga-stacy type in mind only, and in most cases I disagree. More often than not, it is a woman marrying a man she doesn't find attractive - aka settling. edit: women have a strange seducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:50 PM
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"Well, why don't you pretend to work?" Why don't you pretend I'm working? You get paid more than me. You fantasize. - Bill Hicks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:13 PM
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even nastier than just pulling them out with your fingers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:09 PM
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Stalkers and murderers follow the rules and best practices Ha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:57 PM
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You're going to chase away most decent, self respecting prospects doing shit like that. Women keeping other women single, as always. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:44 PM
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If you're able to talk to 5 women at once, then it's probably looks doing the heavy lifting. The two might have ghosted because you weren't sexually forward enough like the other chads they're fucking from OLD, and they just aren't ready for a nice boy yet. A good personality would probably warrant at least one of the women just wanting to be friends, because you're "husband material" and she doesn't want to seem like a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:47 PM
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Had that pretty recently. The most green lights as I half-ignored her and did my thing. Luckily, I dodged a bullet: married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:20 PM
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It's a legitimate question. The red pill and other movements suggest that "you're never hers, it's just your turn." AKA: just enjoy the time with a woman. That implies not to over-commit and ruin a good thing, and stay interested in other things that interest you as much as her. One of the biggest fumbles I think all men learn from is showing too much interest too fast... Stage 3 clinger alert!! Danger! Danger! I also see (way too often) many guys end up becoming weak men almost instantly when g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:57 PM
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Women get resting bitch-faces because they're emulating the resting man-face of the men they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:02 PM
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Lots of women tan egregiously in their 20s, and you definitely see a lot of sun damage on women approaching 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:44 PM
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I believe most psychologists will argue that your personality is set at a certain point, and changing it is is not easy or guaranteed; so it's rather interesting you assume his personality changed. When I leaned down and was in great shape most recently, women were embarrassing themselves to get my attention - without knowing a single thing about my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:36 PM
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Divorce rates are down because the only people getting married are people that want to get married - and of those, the trend I see is that they date for a decade before marrying. It's no longer a socially undesirable thing to not be married, so people are in less of a rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:25 PM
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You made a lot of good points, and I agree with you for the most part... A guy can elevate himself in ways to significantly improve his attractiveness and confidence. But top 20% means only 20% of people can be there. If all men elevated themselves and competed to get into the top percentile, the average quality of man must necessarily increase significantly; and this will just solidify a new higher tier man that is even more unattainable for most guys. I can't even really begin to think of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:43 PM
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I think it's highly context dependent. In most contexts, wifey material is a great compliment - it's a woman that a man wants to be the mother of his kids. Husband material, in most contexts that I've seen it get used, is a backhanded compliment to a docile guy who will let a woman have her way and fund her lifestyle while doing it. That guy who's rocking her socks off and making bank gets called by other, more sexually flattering names.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:23 AM
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If you're hitting it off, invite her back to your place. If she's not into that, get her number and leave on your own. You probably started to get boring and overstayed your welcome, so the new guy was just a breath of fresh air.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:00 AM
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Lmao. Apparently the latest psy-op on women is appropriating wifey-material as an insult the same way men call husband-material an insult - some gullible person to be used and abused. Quite hilarious, because it's actually one of the highest compliments a guy will give a girlfriend when he's with the boys. Women keeping other women single, like always
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:33 AM
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The best. Well Tempered Clavier is on my list once I have the basics of sight-reading down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:23 PM
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That's exactly the definition of the blue pill. Go watch the matrix if you don't believe me, because that's what it's from.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:35 AM
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MEDIUM! HA
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:33 AM
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Have you ever noticed how much hollywood and such has portrayed this idea of meeting a woman in a place like a psych ward? I'd have to dig, but the one that jumps to mind is a newer blink 182 song with this psych ward love story music video. Was the guy perhaps mentally ill and maybe just thought he'd meet a nice girl while getting better? like in the movies? And, can you base your perception of men on this extreme outlier? Furthermore, how many hundreds or thousands of men have crossed your pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:24 AM
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It seems that cute can get a pass if the guy is masculine in other presentations (especially the bedroom)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:02 AM
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He described it perfectly. It's having the wool over your eyes and pretending things are different (more just) than they actually are. What's your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:23 PM
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But I don't see what you're suggesting working... your take is guys should increase their standards, therefore face even more rejection than they already do... That makes no sense, unless women were to lower their standards simultaneously to balance out so that men are being rejected the same amount as they were before. What makes sense from your statement is that chad needs to stop giving mids situationships so those women will date within their league, and I'm with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:20 PM
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TL;dr: women should at the very least stop treating male struggles as if they are a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:39 PM
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It would also be good for men to raise their standards, as opposed to women lowering them. I don't possibly get how this could improve the situation, unless of course you are suggesting that sex-addict chad stop giving false hope to women who are easy lays; then I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:18 PM
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Is it foolish of me to expect her to at least name a celebrity that somewhat fits her "type," rather than her mind instantly going to Thor? She says one thing she thinks people want to hear (lanky nerds), but the reality (observable action) is her mind instantly goes to the jacked macho-man who plays a literal god on the silver-screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:25 PM
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A perfect example of this was from one of the female regulars here. She claims to love tall, skinny, geeky (iirc) types, but then the conversation of who is attractive comes up and you know who she uses as her example? Chris Fucking Hemsworth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:14 PM
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A woman can like you for your status, lifestyle, or money, but it can't make up for shortfalls in low attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:17 AM
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I think a prank where the bride gets kidnapped and only the groom knows would be hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:15 AM
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How casual?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:44 AM
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There's a more exaggerated view of that if you look at other, much sweatier, games. I think the top female starcraft player was trans and deep in the top 500.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:38 AM
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This is why they say don't argue with women. Know when to just say "we're done here," and leave no room for further discussion. A woman will argue with you for hours if you let her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:00 AM
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No it's not. You're arguing with feelings instead of logic, just like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:54 PM
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Get your T levels checked. You're arguing like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:47 PM
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We can be animals and live in a society. They aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:23 PM
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Yeah, cause playing god has never gotten us into trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:53 PM
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Pretty much all species that inseminate through penetrative acts basically get their basic survival needs met and then want to fuck like rabbits and procreate. To think humans would be different is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:51 PM
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In other words, women have a fetish for taming the beast
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:31 PM
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I'm not saying that it's moral or admirable to do this, nor that I would personally do this. If my observation is incorrect, you're free to say where you disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:46 PM
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I don't see why not if you believe in pre-selection, but it will take a long time if 2 is your starting point. It only takes one woman showing interest for 10 others to notice and join the competition saying "what does she have that I don't"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:26 PM
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Women complain about assholes, and yet "nice guy" was made into a derogatory term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:44 PM
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Correct premise, poor explanation and example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:41 PM
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With some women, who ask questions where there are only wrong answers, the only winning move is to not play. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:41 PM
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If you were going for sarcasm: that's a no from me, dawg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:52 PM
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The fact that you think it's a political statement and not just some edgy thing he thought people might laugh at tells me everything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:27 PM
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For men, it's what you can get; for women, it's who will take you. If a guy can get with a 5, there will be 6s that are interested. If he can get with one of those 6s, he gains access to 7s. See where I'm going with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:36 PM
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Exactly. Women feel entitled to the very men they rejected. Once those guys establish themselves and they finally get a chance, women think those men should be grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:31 PM
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AI, obviously. Her bedroom is far too clean
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:17 PM
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Would you rather your dad just left you to the wolves to figure out that it's probably not smart to walk alone at night?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:51 PM
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Common sense is patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:56 PM
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hellcat in the hood vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:55 PM
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You have to buy expensive depreciating things with gimmicky technology or else you're broke lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:38 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:34 PM
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Future serial killer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:30 PM
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Lmao, DSG - because when your transmission fails, why not rebuild TWO transmissions? Wouldn't catch me dead driving an autotragic that tries to mimic a manual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:28 PM
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If you take care of yourself by staying in shape and eating healthy, work on an interesting lifestyle and hobbies, and pair that with charm and the tiniest hint of a fashion-sense: women will show way more interest in you in your 30s than they did when you were in your 20s. I'm not sure where it came from that a man's sexual prime is only in his 20s. Obviously, YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:21 PM
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People say "smile, sweetheart" because NOBODY prefers a sad or resting-bitch-face looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:09 PM
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It was only a fan fic in the sense that the author saw a massive opportunity to write about her wildest, smuttiest fantasies because of Twilight's success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:53 PM
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Fifty shades is interesting because it was supposed to be a memoir of sorts for a feminist woman enjoying experiences that conflict with her beliefs. Kind of a take on how women think it's bad for a men to be abusive, dominant, potentially a little sadistic, and/or patriarchal, but they often run towards these men when they encounter them despite everything they have been taught telling them to run.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:45 PM
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The ig models you’re referencing don’t show what they had to do to get those shopping sprees in Dubai. you just know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:47 PM
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Ding ding ding. The red pill is hypergamy for men. It teaches men to go for the better deal instead of taking the shitty one. That's why women hate it. A lot of them know they're shitty deals, and the red pill takes away prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:30 PM
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It also needs to be considered how they're testing for EQ. Are they asking a bunch of questions and generating some sort of rating based on the answers? That's flawed, and shouldn't be used for drawing hard conclusions. At best, it might highlight a trend that can be further explored; but it's not definitive proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:21 PM
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"Don't question the science" is the epitome of anti-intellectualism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:17 PM
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Treat others as you wish to be treated. If you want to date women trying out multiple suitors, then go ahead and talk to/date multiple women at the same time. If you want exclusivity from the outset, then you should select for women who want the same. Women will tell on themselves when there are multiple guys in the picture, so listen for that and be ready to move on at a moments notice when you find their values don't match with yours. The disconnect is when people want the opposite of what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:12 PM
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Nope. The only purgatory is for below average men, as the women that are their looks counterparts (aka mid to below-average women) have been convinced they're 10s. It's easier for a below average guy to just shoot his shot with women out of his league than face the demoralizing rejection of the women who are on his level but artificially see themselves as above him. The thing about above average women is that they underrate themselves and think they are average. They are realistic, and will date…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:27 PM
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Speedrunning WWIII
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:53 AM
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Bro... don't engage in hypotheticals with women. It's a complete waste of time. They'll ABSOLUTELY refuse to engage with it in the capacity you might be expecting, and you'll make a fool of yourself finding that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:35 AM
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I mean, I'd prefer if a woman ditched some slimy friendzone worm that would actively try to sabotage a relationship of a woman he wants. I've experienced that when trying to date a woman before - the friendzone dude was literally cockblocking me every chance he got.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:09 AM
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The thing is: they have to learn for themselves. You can't convince these people to remove the wool pulled over their eyes. A woman has to yank the wool off for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:07 AM
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It's a special kind of narcissism I think we have yet to put a name to. Useful idiot is my best approximation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:47 AM
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Most socialists are so high on their own farts that they're a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:40 AM
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Communism is more like 8-8. On paper, workers working more hours means more productivity; but in practice, overworked people burn out. Capitalism at least has this built in feature where the worker drones can afford simple luxuries and time off to recharge so they can provide work of higher quality for sustained periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:19 AM
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Men have always cheated, have always become unattracted to their wives due to familiarity I don't think that's a correct notion. The CEO doesn't cheat on his wife because she is familiar. He cheats on her because this pretty young secretary was giving him the energy that his wife used to give him. In essence, he loses attraction and cheats on his wife because she has become unfamiliar. As long as you don't gain a bunch of weight, lose all interest in sex or putting effort into the relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:52 PM
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So if you meet a 22 year old and she won't fuck on the first date, you're gone? I can understand the whole "she no fuck, she gone" mentality if she's 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:27 AM
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I'd get something on paper then fuck his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:24 AM
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Why would I waste my time with a woman who probably had casual sex with another man but pretends that she's incapable of having sex with me on the first or second night? Why would I want a woman who makes me work for sex instead of one who wants sex just as much as I do because she's attracted to me? Because if she's under 25 and and in any way sexually reserved (and undamaged), she's probably not going to have sex with you right away unless you trample every boundary she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:00 PM
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Is Angel Reese a psyop to get more men to tune in to the WNBA just because of outrage?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:06 PM
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too silly bring her own jacket when it’s cold I remember being in line at a club on NYE many years ago, and it was about -40 out. Most of the women were wearing mini-dresses and heels, and almost all of the guys were wearing parkas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:50 PM
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Most women only give to receive, from what I've seen and experienced. AKA their "generosity" is transactional. They're not doing something nice for the sake of it, but rather because it means a returned favor when she needs help moving or getting a dead car to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:12 PM
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yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:42 PM
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Everyone knows basically every male feminist is in it for some ulterior motive*, so why are we renaming it? *usually pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:35 AM
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Nah. Nonsensical schizobabble might get one or two. Harsh truths women don't want to admit get double digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:33 AM
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Performative male is such a stupid concept. Of course there will be fake dudes who do shit to get pussy, but does a guy reading in a coffee shop because he'd rather do it there than at home make him a performative male? Pretty soon women will write off all guys just because social media told them a guy who does x is y.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:21 AM
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This is good. The other option was beating her to the punch with a little self-deprecation, but he missed that opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:14 PM
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They struggle to date men that satisfy them. They can get alphafux or betabux, but you're deluding yourself if you think they are able to get with the alphabux they truly desire. EDIT: 9 downvotes! I knew I was close to the mark, but I didn't realize I was that close.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 07:38 PM
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It's too bad the person taking the picture didn't have a cheap DSLR. That could have been an award winning photo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:32 PM
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You just read about dread and are making up a hypothetical, or else you're telling the truth and experienced dating a sociopath - and I'm sorry to hear it, but most guys aren't doing that nefarious shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:21 AM
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Bingo. Having those fond memories of her when she was younger, sizzling, and smelling so good is enough for the guy. He moves mountains for her, and hopefully plays his cards well enough to keep her around for the long haul.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:16 AM
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Obviously a man can be attracted long term to a woman if they meet at 18 and get married. You don't have your youth at 36, but you can still be really hot to him and be attractive for your age. But, an ugly 18 year old is hotter than an okay looking 36 year old. Meeting at 18 and getting married is kind of a minority group these days, and those seem to be the happiest couples I've known. You build huge memories together if you make it from, say, 18-25 - as was your case before getting married. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:01 AM
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Go for it. Seriously, please do. When that blue pilled guy doesn't have the basic understanding to put you in your place or call you on your shit and you've eventually lost all respect for him, you'll be running with open arms back to guys you would disqualify based on your words here; just because they understand how and when to say no to a woman. I'm just afraid I won't be there to say I told you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 03:54 AM
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Most shit you might think is real on TV is somewhat scripted
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:53 PM
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And women test men and people to see if they'll be good little helpers (slaves). You can't point a finger at one side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:49 PM
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Women hate a man that reactive. That's giga-simp shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:47 PM
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I've actually heard the top of the hierarchy are equally as misogynistic, because they can have any women they want. This is only half the story... It's also because they see how unfaithful women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:31 PM
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Q4W: Let's say you're at a party/event with your social circle, and you meet a group of new friends. In that group, there are two guys that are virtually the same - interesting and well-paying careers, great personalities, cool interests, attractive, etc... Basically, they check all the boxes. The only visible difference is that one of the guys has a head that is proportionally too small compared to his body, and the other's head is too big. Which one would you choose, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:59 PM
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Yep. Another thing to note is that a promiscuous woman will likely be the type to have a roster when you meet her. That's where you're actively competing with the guys who keep her around for the sex and won't give her a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:24 PM
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Does reddit allow more than one reply to a comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:16 PM
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At least with regards to the angry thing, it's pretty standard for woman to provoke her man to anger every now and then - to test his love or compassion, or something like that... Before you say that's only mentally unstable women... No, it's not. It's damn near all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:51 AM
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If you're bluepilled, you think Lovelace invented programs. If you're redpilled, you know it was Babbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:50 AM
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I mean, syphilis cases are considered out of control in some modern western areas. Huge rises in congenital syphilis too. Can I not show disrespect towards a woman who might be part of the problem? It's a stealthy and insidious STD, in case you weren't aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 03:42 AM
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There are some odd niches out there, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:59 AM
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Are you saying it's one of them psyop thingamajiggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:52 AM
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Bothering women in public outside of very specific places is verboten. And these specific places? Well they've gotten so unreasonably expensive that people just aren't going. Mediocre artists are charging hundreds of dollars for 2 hour shows, bar chains are charging 8+ per drink if you're in a city. The economy seems to be in shambles... but that's another subreddit's discussion. You can't really fault the average guy for not wanting to approach with how vocal it's been that approaching an unrec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:40 AM
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I was being a bit facetious, but I appreciate your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:06 AM
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Well there was a thread about a guy disclosing his anger management therapy and getting ghosted, and all I could think was: A woman loves a guy who gets angry, and they especially like making him angry - so there, in my mind, was obviously more to the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:56 AM
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It depends entirely upon whether you think it's a right to be able to show disrespect where it is deemed due by the person showing it. Someone doesn't pick up their dog shit in the park? I'm disrespectful of them, and you are too. So how can you say it's wrong for me to be disrespectful of a person who conducts their life in a way that I think is part of a larger problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:51 AM
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You make a wonderful point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:33 AM
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So you like to try before you buy if the guy is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:30 AM
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You either live and work at the bunny ranch, or you're full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:29 AM
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And you've never seen a woman get triggered over the word slut? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:59 AM
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Even Richard Reeves (who I strongly disagree with on several fronts) addresses the erosion of male spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:55 AM
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I made them up. I'm a nerd, dude. I remember the internet pre-smartphone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:48 AM
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I mean, I've seen how some conduct themselves... and it seems like they're either "punching down" (I use this term very loosely, because I don't think it's down in a lot of cases) or policing thought. It's very rare I have a good debate with a woman here, and I could list the women who debate in good faith (and whom I have good discussions with) by username. The rest? well... I just can't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:46 AM
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I like competition. Nothing in what was said would suggest I don't want women or people with non-redpill beliefs here, but I just don't understand why like 75% of women seem to be here aren't actually using it to debate this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:44 AM
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I have high confidence that Reddit was 99+% men for years, and these were men accessing Reddit from computers. It wasn't necessarily made for men, per se; but it was made for computer people, and being a computer person (who may have been exposed to a site like this in it's infancy) was akin to being a nerd - which women wanted nothing to do with until some time in the 2010s when gamer-girl culture started to bubble up. The advent and rise to popularity of the smartphone was a huge reason why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:42 AM
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In the words of Haddaway: "What is love?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:29 AM
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Wow. I haven't seen the thousand cock stare mentioned in quite a while. Kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:28 AM
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Female sexuality (and reproduction) is highly valued, and women literally trade it for dopamine hits. You do you, but don't pretend men can't see or shouldn't care about what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:27 AM
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Women seem to be more pissed off by the whole body-count discussion in that men aren't standing for promiscuous women, and I think this frightens women into throwing out buzz-phrases like "fragile ego" or "insecurity."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:24 AM
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Another example for me personally is that a lot of my career success comes from being left to sink or swim on tough projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:16 PM
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I think PPD is a pretty good example, since the pills (especially the red pill) have kind of been like a modern male locker-room talk. It actually kind of confuses me why so many women are here exactly, if not to shame (police) men for thinking these things about sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:13 PM
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Everybody knows you get better faster at sports and competition by playing against people that are better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:06 PM
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Gosh, why didn't I think of the local leather bar?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:04 PM
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Women’s spaces are non existent and you know why So, tell me... can a boy join the Girl Scouts? Can a girl join the Scouts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:03 PM
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I can't seem to get a drink with the boys these days without at least one wife or gf needing to tag along. It just changes the dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:29 PM
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Oh, you're just looking to argue for the sake of it. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:18 PM
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Devils advocate means I like to take an adversarial, or contrarian, side of discussions even when I agree with the person. I poke holes in bad takes from other red pillers often. You'll have to explain how the two are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:59 PM
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That's solipsism, bruh. The same phenomenon that makes them think men will be attracted to them if they pursue the same accomplishments, traits, and lifestyle of the men they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:17 PM
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Most are mentally damaged and traumatized to accept that behavior. Ah, yes. The same tired, "just world" response that is always used in "women are attracted to badboys" discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:58 PM
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Huh??? Plenty of guys with anger management problems have no problem getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:16 PM
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"He was too attentive and present... ick! Nothing like that chad who treated me like dirt and barely acknowledged my existence outside of sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:14 PM
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Did you pull this info from a Hustler's University lecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:57 PM
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"are you on your period" if a man is bleeding I would use this if a guy is being emotionally volatile, not if he's bleeding from a wound of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:49 PM
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chadsexual... yes, or yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:49 PM
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You're referencing a cohort of men that is so laughably small that it's almost non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:52 PM
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Most, if not all, women enjoy sex with men they like and are attracted to, so if a woman doesn't like sex with these conditions being met then she likely has some deeeeeeep unresolved trauma. So, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:40 PM
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Do the chickens have large talons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:25 PM
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Just ask for acknowledgement if you need to hold someone to task based on an action item in an email.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:24 PM
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Sorry. Misread your initial comment completely. It's been a long week already, and it's only monday...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:00 AM
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Everything I've seen about men falling behind has this implication (or sometimes a very explicit message) of how it affects women, but this is usually after blowing smoke up women's asses with how much they're killing it for half the article. 1/2 of the article talks about women slaying 1/4 of the article talks about men falling behind 1/4 of the article talks about why men falling behind is bad for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:34 AM
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Most women are succeeding in their own lives and that’s why more single women own their homes by themselves than men do, have more college degrees than men do, and they aren’t exactly putting any of that stuff on the news. What news are you watching/reading? I see articles about how women are killing it (socioeconomically) from various sources literally every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:21 PM
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Exactly. Women measure "good" by how many other women the guy has chasing him. Has nothing to do with his morals or character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 09:59 PM
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Women find a good men and then ask "Why does he have no bitches?" Long story short, women don't really want a good man - they want a man who forces them to compete against other candidates to be in his harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:44 PM
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Yes. Country girls get their queues from their mothers and grandmothers, where city girls get them from cosmo and rom-coms
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:41 PM
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You're kind of suggesting that men should go back to being blue-pilled and let emotions and short-sightedness dominate the mating process - which is what the red pill came out of in the first place. Treating dating as if it is a "just world" scenario will generally leave you hurt and jaded, unless you managed to find a high-school/college sweetheart - aka you found a partner before red pill knowledge became highly relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:04 PM
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I've seen enough women ignoring friends and family warning them about bad dudes to know better. Let's agree to disagree, sweetheart. Deception, deshmeption
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:39 AM
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If you're financially abused in modern times (where women don't need men to finance their lifestyles), you were 100% complicit. When will women admit that they made a mistake ending up in a situation like this? ... oh, never? got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:25 PM
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Because you ignored obvious red flags for decades since he was hot and charming. Love goggles are strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:24 PM
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I mean, okay. A chad that's fucking a lot might be pretty sexually aggressive and sometimes it doesn't go over well, or is too manipulative... But he's not taking pussy and other dark shit like that... come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:40 AM
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MGTOW is a logical response after one or two bad divorces or breakups. 4B is a performative attack against men because chad wasn't a good guy... full stop. While they sound the same, they are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:36 AM
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The more partners a man has the more likely he is to engage in sexual assault and rape. For as much as I'd love to agree with this, it sounds a bit farfetched. You're definitely right that women flock towards dangerous men, because we see all of the gentle, non-violent men basically getting scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 11:08 PM
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When they leave the non-violent men alone to chase the violent ones, are they getting what they deserve? That is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:59 PM
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She's just hurt because some of the men she milks for attention are moving on to other avenues of getting wives. There's also a time in every young man's life where he considers doing a bit of backpacking, and SEA is the place right now. Those two things together threaten some women to post stuff like this. It's like a "don't you dare you incel dweeb"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:53 AM
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I can't see through how full of herself she is: Pink hair? check Nose Ring? double check Goofy pose paired with an inflammatory comment? ding ding ding, tell her what she wins Johnny! She was probably celebrating somebody's death a few weeks prior for social media attention too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:46 AM
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The theory never fails
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:44 AM
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Just read quora. I specifically reference it for various things because I'm interested in what Indian social media talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:42 AM
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As you should. If a woman doesn't have to compete to get you off of the market, she won't respect you in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:15 PM
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When the topic of hookup vs husband comes up, many women here will admit they would prefer a husband-material guy starts as a hookup. That is to say you need to be both hookup and husband material as a man, or else you're going to marry a woman who pretends to be smitten so she can get the ring and marriage benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:06 PM
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You're half right. Men want women to settle for them, but they also wish this wasn't the harsh reality of modern "have your fun first" dating. A man wants to be the woman's first choice, or else he clearly lacks self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:02 PM
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IDK, I was a shy nerd and I still had options despite not being assertive and also being a bit of a pussy. Just goes to show the importance of finding love in high school, I guess... Noticed that women definitely became harder to please, and shy and unassertive was a death sentence in university - because that preference was acquired or realized.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:29 PM
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You're massively misinterpreting her words if you think she was saying anything other than only crazies date bad dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:27 PM
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The essence of "happy wife, happy life" is to basically place women on a pedestal and pander to them, which generally implies some sort of passivity and/or submission. So, can you really blame men for getting snagged by this pitfall when a lot of the indoctrination they go through when younger is to basically see women as superior? It's weird that everyone treats this "women don't want pushovers" as if it's common sense, but every year more and more men learn from their mistakes and have to cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:18 PM
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Hundreds of thousands of reviews on goodreads for her book Lean In, so probably at least hundreds of thousands of women - but probably a lot more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:02 PM
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Oh, so you know the quote?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:59 PM
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You're free to look up who she is, what kind of power she has, and what advice she has had for young women. Not my job to pull you out from the rock you live under.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:45 PM
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Heard of (as in her)? or the quote?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:41 PM
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Most of the time that desire isn't clearly communicated. She likes the guy a lot, but doesn't want to rock the boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:13 PM
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Ah, yes; one of the most common fallacies on PPD: only crazy women fall for bad/violent men. Let's just forget the Sheryl Sandberg quote, where she quite literally tells young women to not rush into marriage and try all the types of men (including the bad ones)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:02 PM
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tv and food is too generic lol you must specifically ask about the current show and the hot food trend like poke or whatever the fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:04 AM
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Nice! Positively charged wants to take electrons (reduce), and losing electrons is oxidization. Girl, are you positively charged? Because I'm getting a bit too rusty to properly reduce you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:58 AM
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It's hit and miss. Some do, some don't. Some just miss opportunities, or what have you; so they're left in the heap of people that didn't find high-school/college sweethearts. There's a lot to be said about that first true love, man. Maybe it's just limerence, but I'll be damned if there's not a lot of people affected by the one that got away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:47 AM
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How are people surprised that Trump went full gloves off...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:38 AM
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Do you get clouds of dragonflies there? ps: plants and wildlife are awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:26 AM
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The moral thing to do is to reward moral behavior and punish immoral behavior Absolute bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:24 AM
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Hypergamy is simply "what is. " I don't love it, but I also don't hate it. It's not going away, so there's nothing you can really do about it but be aware of it and the way it displays itself the modern age. That's another conversation, and I can hardly think you'd be ready for it; you dumbass pill pussy-haver
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:19 AM
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Let's hear yours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 02:03 AM
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Go to Starbucks and Barnes and Noble to sober up and do some performative male shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 01:27 AM
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Thanks, but don't bother
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 01:19 AM
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If he did it in an on purpose way, you should let him know that's not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 01:13 AM
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"It seems we are compatible"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 01:06 AM
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She wants the best of both worlds. That's why it's awkward. Probably feels worse about having to break things off with the FWB than she will years down the road when requesting a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:09 PM
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🎂🎉🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:31 PM
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And if they do happen to start reading it, they'll get hung up on semantics before finishing the first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:33 PM
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Provoke the group you're scared of as to not appease them? Interesting tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:12 PM
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"Consider how this group that is part of the problem." "Nah fuck that shit. Coachella hoes, bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 08:08 PM
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Lots of women claim to feel in danger because of disenfranchised young men aligning under cults of personality, and at the same time take every opportunity to shit on those same men. It's a race to the bottom, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:56 PM
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It seems there's an uptick in men who don't work, learn, and do nothing. Perhaps we should explore this to understand why men are giving up? ... Actually, let's just focus on how this affects women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:52 PM
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I think attraction is fairly black and white, because it is binary after all... which is why I push back so hard on women pretending that it's not. Also, I think women are more similar than they are different when it comes to what they find attractive on a subconscious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:15 PM
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I'm struggling to see why it's a dumb question when most guys will agree that women often obfuscate the truth about what makes a guy [physically] attractive by listing qualities that are appealing in a long-term partner sense and suggesting that those can overcome a lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:12 PM
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There it is. Press a woman hard enough on why she believes something, and she'll just backtrack and contradict the previously stated belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:30 PM
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The difference between attractive qualities and appealing traits is so clear, yet women try to blur the line and imply unattractive guys have a chance at chemistry if they make up for it in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:13 AM
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This right here. Most guys get red pilled before they even know what it is. They then seek out anecdotes on the internet that relate their experience (which is an experience that generally goes against what society says about women and attraction), and this is generally the point where someone might stumble upon, and find out about, the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:34 PM
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They aren't attracted ot these traits. They can find these things appealing for a long-term relationship, but a guy who is kind, supportive, respectful of boundaries, and/or reliable isn't more attractive because of those things. If she's not attracted, she will eventually find reasons to resent you for things she claimed were "attractive" but were really just appealing qualities in a person she isn't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:29 PM
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Because women like to say (lie) that guys can make up for shortcomings in attractiveness with characteristics that are appealing but not attractive - eg. intelligence, work ethic, etc. If she's not attracted to you, it doesn't matter how smart, rich, or successful you are - she doesn't find you attractive, and the relationship won't have a "spark."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:25 PM
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Not even close to what I said, and couldn't even be implied by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:33 PM
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You just know the guy is an adonis. Women don't write paragraphs about a guy unless he is way out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:27 PM
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Because women want to win over the guy who only wants to hookup. Something about taming the beast. There's also the aspect of competing against other women to win over a guy who's seeing lots of women. Husband vs hookup threads often reveal that women would prefer that a husband starts as a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:48 PM
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When I go fishing, I catch fish with fake fish. Bait worked properly is very powerful at producing a strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:27 PM
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why the hell do I need to spend 2k a month on THIS woman when other men got it for free Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:17 PM
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The reward is a lot more sex than they'll be getting after the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:46 PM
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Reeves is just a talking head that says the right things such that the media gives him airtime. I have his book, I've read it... it's all performative nonsense. He really offers no solutions that wouldn't further hinder the progress of boys and young men, and he thinks women shouldn't have to give up any of their privileges so men can be equals. Remember when the push to end women's oppression was a zero-sum game where men had to lose so women could gain? Now that men are behind because they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:41 PM
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It has also been said that they would prefer that husband-guy starts as a hookup. Basically women want to overcome the fuck-zone, so if she isn't okay being fuckzoned initially then she won't be a ride or die wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 09:31 PM
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Your solipsism is showing... You're confusing what makes a woman traditional with what makes a man traditional. In the past, men could have concubines and mistresses; possibly even see prostitutes. Most of the traditional men I've known have been downright pussyhounds. What made them traditional was how they continued to show up for their families and communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:55 PM
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Failed the line test
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:49 PM
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Just wait for the 7 year itch and most of those women will be on to second marriages. I'm not necessarily claiming marrying a virgin/low bodycount woman would save a guy from this, but women who have enjoyed a lot of variety are going to be way more at risk of getting bored and thinking the grass is greener.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:25 PM
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The reason it's called the red pill is because once you take it, you can't go back. You're trying to start a fire using water.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 08:20 PM
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If "she lets me do anything in bed" screams of porn rot, then what does "I have the pussy so I make the rules" scream? Sounds like brat-rot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:44 PM
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"if that's all you're good for, then yes" That's the type of woman that has a dream you cheated on her, then she cuts your meat and two veg off
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:37 PM
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Sure, just ignore the example he gave and present your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:06 PM
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Creed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:49 AM
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The middle aged re-enactor in the log cabin? Or the younger guy in a more modern, but also vintage, kitchen?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 02:26 AM
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That's where the sneaky link comes in, if I'm not mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:17 AM
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Greenland. Think of the mining potential. Could serve as a state closer to Europe where europeans could do business and visit without having to come so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:13 AM
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There's a certain star-warsy sci-fi aesthetic going on here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:05 AM
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If you don't make up for it in other ways (like being a very talented starving artist, or a foot in at the family business, or something like that), it will be an instant DQ for a lot of college educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:02 AM
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Is it a frat boy, or is it a straight up chauche?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:58 PM
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This. Ankles are a no-no
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:52 PM
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Exactly. You got hung up on the semantics, rather than addressing the hypothetical; which is precisely why I need to stop proposing hypotheticals to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:45 PM
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Notice how you didn't say I was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:45 PM
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Assuming you're presenting the facts, I believe that was likely him being facetious with regards to how it is democrat judges who are often the ones letting violent criminals walk free and being labelled as "heroes" for doing so. Was it said in good taste? probably not. Did you take it entirely too literally? probably yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:38 PM
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Executed? Is that what you call it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:11 PM
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Exactly. Many single women are embarassed that the guys that are dicking them down are hot bums they don't see a future with, so they lie or obfuscate the truth at best. They're single "by choice," but that doesn't mean they aren't having sex. I believe the youngins call this a "sneaky link."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:09 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how that is related or relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:06 PM
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I know plenty of women who live alone with no husband and have been for years, and no sex either. Is that what they told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:58 PM
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I did have the same reaction to that, because the CEO is just the designated mouthpiece of the shareholders - he didn't deserve to die. Cold-blooded murder, no matter the justification behind it, is always wrong, and celebrating it sets a very bad precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:56 PM
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Hang on, I've gotta write that down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:38 PM
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The assassination wasn't nearly as shocking as those who boldly celebrated it for all to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:37 PM
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What else is instragram for if not following baddies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:22 PM
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How would you feel as woman #2?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:13 PM
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I'm not sure how you managed to miss the point this much, but goddamnit you did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:12 PM
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Nice hyperbole
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:10 PM
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Oftentimes, the weakest most useless of males will expect women to have more compassion for their injuries than they expect other men to have for them. Because it's women constantly harping on about how they wish men would open up and show some vulnerability, not men. The whole reason this topic comes up is because women constantly claim they want to see male emotional vulnerability, but the reality (the red pill in this scenario) is they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:35 PM
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You've got it all wrong. They didn't start specifically hiring baddies, but baddies started going for those positions because weather women get looooots of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:19 PM
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Looks patsy to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:13 PM
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You have to feel bad for Charlie Kirk when you see the sea of liberal arts majors stepping up on social media to celebrate his tragic death. If you don't, you don't have a soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:00 AM
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Red pill isn't prescriptive. Not sure where you got the idea that it is. Probably the classic confusing what some ex-PUA grifter is saying as being representative of the red pill as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:52 PM
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Both examples seem very farfetched. Highly masculine, military lifestyles that yield combat experience often make for "hardened" men that you wouldn't call pretty. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:15 PM
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Buddy's long term gf was giving me vicious bedroom eyes while the guy was just a few steps away. It's a weird position to be in, no doubt. Simultaneously validating and violating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:06 PM
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It's always something that makes women go on these tirades.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:46 PM
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I think people forget that you should treat others as you want to be treated. So, if you're celebrating an assassination and cheering for the death of someone you don't like;... well... I wasn't even a fan of Charlie, but jesus christ is it annoying to have a bunch of libshit ("social justice virtue signalling and being a bitch make up two of my many personalities") women celebrating his death in my socials. Literally a race to the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:39 PM
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Go to your boys. I think men who are close do open up with one another. The whole reason this subject gets brought up so much is because women claim to want men to open up emotionally, but they're better off just keeping that side of themselves for the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:24 AM
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hundreds of millions of plays/views If the same guy didn't have some fame: would you say the same things about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:10 PM
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I haven't seen the top guns because I'm weird or something. Too metrosexual is just too much for most women when they see how obsessed the guy is about his image, and the time that is put into maintaining that image. Celebrities/actors are a different story - that's just part of the business, and they pay the best people to do most of their beauty services and diet planning, personal training, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:34 PM
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citation needed. This begs the question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:13 PM
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The solution is reopening insane asylums.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:50 PM
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Popular Korean boybands attract the attention of women?! What a revelation!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:51 PM
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I've known plenty of human adult people who worked a second and third retail job on top of white collar work. Like, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:47 PM
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Would you be turned off by a guy that is too polished? aka too hygenic, hair too perfect, skin glistening and youthful from a 10 step skincare regime, and fashion on point What I'm getting at is that a guy can't be too high maintenance - as that's feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:41 PM
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But aren't second and third jobs usually not much better than minimum wage? as in the kinds of jobs teenagers should be working? I'm not sure how much a job like that could enrich you unless it's at a store that sells stuff for a hobby the person likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:29 PM
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I love working, I have three jobs. If you love to work, would it not make more sense to have just one job and give it your all? How can you grow your wage and skills splitting effort between three jobs, unless they are extremely similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:04 PM
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The true bad boy (legit dark triad narcissist type) doesn't feel bad about using or exploiting other people. You can't tell these guys what to do or feel. The recovering nice guy on a villain arc won't have the balls to counter the shit tests of women who he attracts with his fake badboyish vibes, and he'll get spit up and chewed out if he doesn't naturally realize it's stupid before applying it. These guys will end up feeling mostly sorry for their phoney-ness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:27 PM
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There's a very real argument to be made that women have been conditioned out of wanting to do that for a man, so many don't even really try it. I don't think anyone's complaining if someone is subsidizing them to stay home and make sure the chores are done and food is on the table, but women somehow find a reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:08 PM
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Hilarious how it works: they think they're making one point, but end up just making the complete opposite one. The problem is that she still couldn't avoid making the whole damn thing about her... I... I... my... me... I... Because of the sheer desire to talk about herself, she's blind to how this actually kind of advocates for a stay at home parent if a person works a well-paying (but difficult) job that can cover expenses for two people. It's a candid take on how life with a stressful career a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:00 PM
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It is called the Narcissist's Prayer, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:57 PM
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That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:44 PM
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Those pitfalls are there regardless of if a guy is aware of them or not. That's the point... Now that I see the pitfalls, I'd rather not unsee them or imagine they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 05:07 PM
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One of my biggest takeaways from the red pill is that women subconsciously test men. Fail the tests, and attraction and respect are lost. Because of the subconscious nature of how attraction works, I would rather not go back to being unaware of the pitfalls - because said pitfalls are exactly how marriages end up being dead bedroom situations, or why divorce papers get served with no mercy seemingly out of the blue. If one understands the central aspects of the red pill, all they can say is "sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:42 PM
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I had 6 years of experience with the former and then the latter was just like "wow so the world really works like that". The red pill was right 👍 See, criticisms of the red pill tend to fall short because people are generally running with the idea that "It's all wrong and it's dumb," where most men who have exposure to the red pill within the context of dating will tell you there is a lot of truth in the red pill. If people wanted to construct decent criticisms of the red pill, they should focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:34 PM
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And you are not paying reparations simply because women are not interested in dating you It's hilarious that you thought this was what I meant by reparations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:54 PM
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I get the idea of parents wanting to show off their kids sport "achievements" and lessening the blow of losing as a kid, but come on. Healthy competition as kids to show there are winners and losers (and winning depends on how hard you try and how good you get) and winners get trophies is the healthiest way to develop strong mindsets in these kids when they're young. Participation trophies are subtle reinforcement that having fun and being mediocre still gets the trophy. People should walk away …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:05 AM
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Trophies for hardwork were reduced to something that was representative of toxic masculinity and the patriarchy, don'tcha know. They watered the meaning of them down to meaningless junk that everyone gets. Participation medals are for when you make it to the playoffs, not when your team got to "participate" in the playoffs I have to get a few hunting and fishing trophies before taxidermy becomes illegal because it hurts the animal's feefees
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:58 AM
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What about them? The topic is about men who are willingly putting in less (or no) effort
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:18 PM
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Women got worse and yet demanded more. Hoeflation. The only winning move is to not play.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:51 PM
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the whole point is stopping wars and drafts from happening, its called peace treatys. While billionaires and bureaucrats benefit from keeping the warmachine going, we will never have peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:14 PM
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You know you can say no, right? Yes, but at the expense of her thinking you're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:01 PM
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"Even if men collectively worked to abolish the draft, women would vote to bring it back" somehow translates to men need women to protect them from other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:42 PM
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You see so much effort to make women 50% of this and that, but zero effort to make men 50% of fields that are female dominated. Therapy is by women and for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:21 PM
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Save men from themselves? Try "saving them from warmongering politicians" who have full authority to throw millions of young men into the meatgrinder. If men collectively rose up to abolish the draft, the warmongering elite would fire up the warmachine with something so bloody and violent that they can justify the draft even after it's abolishment - and women would vote for it too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:06 PM
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I've reacted quite negatively to being ghosted (to the point where I was kind of embarrassed by my behavior), but have always reacted amicably when the person is up-front and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:27 PM
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I'm not even necessarily talking about this scenario, but in more of a general sense of women thinking it's "safer" to pretend a guy doesn't exist and give him no closure instead of just letting him know it won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:20 PM
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"Consider therapy" is such an infuriating response. It suggests that a mans problems are beyond his own control, and that he has to rely on professional help; which is the antithesis of what society expects of men - to be self-sufficient and able to take care of his own problems in addition to the problems of others (notably women) in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:12 PM
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And men today are getting no privileges and yet still paying reparations for men who lived and oppressed women centuries ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:08 PM
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This guy might not react well to rejection, so I'm just going to reject him in the worst possible way this logic is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:13 PM
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They more than make up the difference by buying stupid luxury/gimmicky foodstuffs and takeaway though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:05 PM
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All of the pleather coating is gone. Nothing but old farts and disappointment in that chair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:53 PM
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The defence they played for Luigi (cold-blooded CEO killer) is kind of telling... I wonder how these women would react to their own husbands being murdered in cold blood by some disenfranchised young man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:40 PM
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What are they wasting it on, cancer research?? Trans awareness in South Sudan, and LGBT visibility in the Congo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:32 PM
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If more couples have attractive men than average and below, you pay me 1000$, deal? This reminds me of how women here will always claim "I see ugly women with hot men all the time." It's like... Yeah, no shit... where were you when we were discussing hypergamy and sky-high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:28 PM
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Also, it has reached a point of business. "Since all these men are after me, imma take the best deal." And yes, women are free to do that for their interest, And frankly men know theres nothing to do about it. The only thing that men can do is have zero sympathy and not be the backup plan when these women waste all their "chips" going for men who likely won't commit due to the vast amount of options they can enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:26 PM
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Getting funding to do research and statistical analysis relies on going with the narrative - which is to avoid anything that might open up criticism of women. Science is heavily gatekept because people avoid controversial research and focus on "acceptable" areas of research, as their livelihood literally depends on it. OKC at least did us a favor by revealing this data. 8:2 ratio of men to actual women AFAIK, it's much closer to 2:1
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:18 PM
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Right, but the women who are out there for expensive, fast, luxurious lifestyles also play the "I'm just out here surviving" card... It's virtuous to say you don't do sex work for the money, but most women (short of those human trafficked) are doing it for exactly that - survival is a nice cover. You can survive off a job at mcdonalds if you're diligent enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:10 AM
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Sounds like she might be a frenemy that is actually trying to get you to consider whoring yourself out. Women eliminate the competition by encouraging others to do self-destructive things. People who want to do things don't sit around saying "I should just do that thing..." they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:52 PM
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People who gold dig, sugar baby or high end escort are in many ways probably closer in social class and interests, but I just can’t imagine a few hundred bucks and some luxury goods worth being penetrated by some strangers dick. I can’t relate at all That's because you're not even attempting to put yourself in their shoes. Imagine you had financial troubles because no real job AND a hard drug addiction... Getting paid to lie there and take strange dicks for an hour or two a day then being able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:46 PM
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As in she only said yes because the ring was nice? Sounds like a fate worse than death
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:37 PM
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So what does she do sex work for if not money? Because she wants to feel she is liberated in her sexuality? Come on now...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:12 PM
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I know this sounded good in your head, but you're not fooling us into believing Ashley would choose an average guy in construction over a handsome, middle to upper-middle class white collar guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:54 PM
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Women care more about the window dressing than what's inside
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:52 PM
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Other than abortion (which could be argued to actually be a privilege), what rights don't women have? If feminism is about women's rights and women of western countries don't lack any basic human rights, what purpose it is serving?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:09 PM
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common I can't say I've seen a single example of this, and looking at the examples it is generally fanfic of stuff targeting kids, women, and the LGBT community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:54 PM
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Feminism is a social movement, and politics is one of the institutions it seeks to influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:03 PM
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Women downplay it, men exaggerate it... the reality is somewhere in the middle. It's not just a few completely wild women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:53 PM
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It's not being surprised that women want to date men they are attracted to... It's disgust that women don't have an honest bone in their body, and can't admit that attraction is the first and most important thing - instead, they gaslight and talk about all of these traits that play no part in attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:07 PM
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Being attractive also leads to more positive feedback loops to where attractive people have an easier time becoming charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:38 PM
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Political polling data can be trusted hahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:49 PM
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No doubt, but it's also entitled to expect 15-20% and give shitty service. Put the fucking phone away and get me my beer or food with me having to ask two or three times, or else I'm not tipping well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:05 AM
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You just don't understand the restaurant industry if you think this is a scrooge attitude. Most restaurant wait staff do it because it's literally easy money - and easy money attracts some of the most scummy people on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:52 AM
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just for being an attractive and/or charismatic fuck-up and bringing food out fixed that for you sorry not sorry wait staff
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:37 AM
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Bingo. The restaurant industry only succeeds because tipping culture is prevalent, as probably 95% of people in the industry make a good percentage of their overall earnings through tips. The other 5% are the owners and shareholders of corporate franchises.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:34 AM
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IDK, all I know is there's a strange amount of sex-change shit being posted today
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:28 AM
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Of course. They take 10s to 100s of selfies for the perfect one, remember - and that's just one photo of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:24 AM
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I'm just absolutely sickened by the way men treat women. I was this way until I realized that women will reject men that would treat them good in favor of men that treat them poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:31 PM
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It's one of the last avenues of true exploration that the average person can get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:15 PM
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It's more like if Tibet was it's own Country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:11 PM
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She's like every other comedian... except she also adds man-bashing to her routine, instead of just a constant barrage of vagina and sex jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:03 PM
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The background certainly doesn't do anything to make that any less creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:26 AM
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You're half right. If that pleasure is "getting your way on something big or expensive because you drained his balls," then that's correct; and you can't lie to us and say you would never use sex for leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:21 AM
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You're looking at "reward" in way too literal of a sense, instead of looking at in in the context of interpersonal dynamics. Women themselves will use sex as a reward for men if the men are successfully conditioned by sex to do an unequal share of work in the relationship. If a guy can be exploited through his balls, women can and will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:18 AM
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It's incredible how successfully feminism and women have managed to gaslight basically all of men into believing what women say about themselves rather than trusting what men directly see themselves. based and redpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:34 AM
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open a [social media] and start making [hyper-progressive] takes for 21 year old liberal arts students Man this rings too true for some women that I have really seen fall from grace. Really sad stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:24 AM
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Both sexes fall into the trap of giving love to people who don't necessarily deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:20 AM
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It's practically common sense at this point. You're not picking a good hill to fight on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:10 AM
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Doesn’t matter you’re having sex and have great dates, talk and establish you’re in a committed relationship Except the primary thing about a relationship is that it's a mutually agreed upon thing. I can be friendly towards you, but that doesn't mean we're friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:31 PM
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nothing is fun really unless I’m high I think I see your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:27 PM
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Women compete by trying to make their opponents doubt themselves and give up before the competition has even begun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:51 PM
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Nah. Women heavily base their self-perception on the perception of the group. Rejection can hurt and make a woman feel like the she isn't favored by the group, and men are the ones that are expected to be the approachers; so women don't really need to take the risk of having their egos damaged because of a feeling of being rejected by the man AND the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:21 PM
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I always pay for myself, so that the man does not feel entitled to me. I find this is a mindset you often see in women - that giving should always mean receiving... AKA prejudging the guy is only buying you dinner because he expects to be paid back with sex. Do some guys do that? Yes. Do some guys want to be altruistic and expect nothing for their altruism? Also yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:14 PM
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Not wanting to approach says nothing about a woman's social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:57 PM
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The phenomenon where an attractive woman will basically spend zero time single (aka always has a new relationship opportunity when previous relationship ends) suggests to me that women do very much enjoy the benefits that men bring to their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:52 PM
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TBF the bus on a good route is probably preferable to paying premium rent to live close to work. I bused for a while and actually kind of enjoyed the routine of it. YMMV
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:35 AM
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Is rolled sleeves the equivalent to cleavage? Ladies, help us out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:10 AM
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https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+a+forearm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:05 AM
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I drive a cheap, reliable, older car as little as possible, and avoid rush hour and questionable traffic/drivers as best I can. Could never own an expensive car with the amount of maniacs on the road. But, I'm also privileged in not having to race the "I'm Late For Work 500" and "I Want To Get Home Grand Prix" on a daily basis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:00 AM
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In the concrete/cement business, if I'm recalling correctly. Forearms the size of bowling balls I'm betting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:53 AM
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Q4W: how much do forearms matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:45 AM
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The coaches aren't amazing at the sport, but they can provide a good third person perspective that has synergy with the athlete(s) they work with. Those who can't do, teach; and some teach very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:07 AM
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That poem was definitely written by a witch
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:16 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:07 PM
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men need to just earn more Someone should tell her what cost this comes at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:06 PM
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Whoever wants something more should work harder for it. This is terrible advice towards men because it truly seems like no woman would prefer a guy who is putting in vastly more effort than her. In fact, women often reflexively put in lots of effort for guys they like who put in very little - the crux of situationships. Is that to say guys shouldn't put in the work or make an effort? No. But understand that at most one should roughly match the other person's effort/energy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:59 PM
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Your take is that guys reach some level of higher thinking when they get a girlfriend, and so they willingly abandon the redpill. My take is pretty much the exact opposite - a good blowjob clouds judgement, so guys let their guard down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:38 PM
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Just think about it. I'm sure you'll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:26 PM
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You're attributing this terribly sociopathic way of viewing people and the social contract with the red pill, and I would say that's entirely incorrect. The red pill might acknowledge some of these exploits that manipulators will abuse, but it doesn't endorse or condone their use because it's not prescriptive. It's just a way of viewing human nature that removes the fuzz of dated belief systems from bygone times where people prioritized families and married young.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:09 PM
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On the contrary: most guys are one blowjob away from being bluepilled. Keep a guys balls empty and his belly full and he'll move mountains for you. Pussy-power is strong shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:06 PM
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If you're dating the woman you marry before the age of 22, that's kind of a lucky exception these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:48 PM
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last chopper out of vietnam Love this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:42 PM
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bros b4 hoes is like rule 1 bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 08:14 PM
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One of the interesting things I take from the red pill is that the people giving bad dating advice are just giving advice that was actually good, but about 30 or more years ago. The rules have changed, and you're basically halfway to being red pilled if you can admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:55 PM
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I used to support paper abortions, then I came around to how guys probably just shouldn't have sex with women they don't see a future and children with. Hookup culture has been a cancer, and some fools deserve to be babytrapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:48 PM
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To play devil's advocate here, if a guy doesn't want to be a father: he can always avoid sex. Sperm is cheap, but you also need to be careful with it... potent stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:45 PM
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If he was supposed to be a friend, he would have turned the girls advances down or not gone after her in the first place. Ultimately, this is dodging two bullets - getting rid of a fake friend and a cheating-prone woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:38 PM
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Not necessarily. You might really like the person and enjoy the sex, then realize they're a total basketcase who is completely unfixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:34 PM
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There's definitely this "girl-power" of women going for guys they want in recent decades, but I don't think anyone can really say if women see a man as less if he isn't the one to "go after what he wants" - so to say. I really can't see any man NOT losing a point in a woman's eyes if he's passive and can't be the one to break the ice and go for what he wants, and a guy will lose a lot of opportunities if he waits for women to come to him. What I tend to see is that women will make themselves hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:33 PM
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Several women I wasn't attracted to have complimented me and I still occasionally think back on it. Men are so compliment starved that they literally do remember compliments from years, even decades, ago, whereas women are so inundated with them that they think it's impossible that most men will cherish a nice compliment for the rest of his life - even a woman on FAWomen! Literally this meme <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:15 PM
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I can't see how that's in any way relevant to walking away from someone with a personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:03 PM
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Do you enable an addict, or do you remove them from your life until they get help? Borderlines are just addicted to strong emotions, and that cycle won't break as long as people enable it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:38 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:32 PM
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Nah. The downward spiral was happening anyway. If anything, this treatment might place her at rock-bottom where she can finally grow up, self-reflect, and overcome the mood disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:27 PM
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Some have decided they won't, but they're referred to as misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:02 PM
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When men get stuck in the past, they get called manchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:00 PM
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30+ year old trucks have really dried up. Blame cash for clunkers removing a bunch of perfectly good used vehicles from the roads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:50 PM
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You're into finance and you don't think there's any value in taking advantage of loans w/ good interest rates? The world is pretty much run on credit and debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:40 AM
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100% this. Nothing conveys a guy is only in a group for the women like hitting on several. Safest to only proceed with asking a person out once every so often if there is no doubt that both people are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:31 AM
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So why do women try to set themselves up to be approached by strange men they're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:10 AM
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Lmao that's one of the best bell curve memes I've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:53 AM
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The problem is most women stop being freaks when commitment becomes more valued. Once someone has bagged the mclaren, it keeps getting passed around because nobody wants to be the owner when the engine needs a rebuild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:31 PM
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Hasn't been bagged is more what I'm suggesting. Three previous owners is fine. That's the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:16 PM
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If it's purpose is serving people on some short term basis like an exotic sportscar (hyperbole), perhaps. But it begs the question: why does nobody want it on a longer term basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:10 PM
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You don't get sentimental towards each car you own? Sociopath behavior And before you take me literally and think I'm saying women and cars are the same, can you not play along with the analogy for even just a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:02 PM
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Nonsense, and you know it. The average car has 3-4 owners these days. If it has had 10, it means that nobody wants it long term - usually a sign something is wrong. You 100% would think twice about buying a car that had 10 different owners - unless it was some prized show-car and you were a man having a midlife crisis, but that's the outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 07:00 PM
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Would you buy a car driven by 10 previous owners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:39 PM
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Hoeflation: increase in women with very high body counts. Not based in reality. Young women are having less casual sex, not more, than in previous decades. The data is clear on that. That's not hoeflation. Hoeflation is where woman demand more from men while actually offering less than women of previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:21 PM
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Hoeflation - men today have to work harder than their grandfathers for women that are worse than their grandmothers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:19 PM
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All of the best chefs in the world are men. Cooking isn't womanly, but it's a task that makes sense for a homemaker to do. It's being the stay-at-home homemaker that is what I'm drawing attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:43 PM
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The problem is that they wish men didn't pick up on this... If most men realize they don't stand a chance with most women, the simping and favors from orbiters would dry up. Perhaps I'm being a bit facetious, but I think you can see what I'm getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:19 PM
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Ehh. Blame House MD and other medical drama soaps for scaring doctors into believing that every other woman patient has Munchausen's.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:17 PM
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Just goes to show when incels and average men complain about women, they’re complaining about Stacy, not women. I think this is actually incorrect. Lots of men become jaded when the women they're supposed to be going for (equals in terms of looks) act like they're stacy and above the guy, which is an artifact of women being convinced they're all 10s and having too much attention via social media. Nobody became a jaded incel because they tried asking sydney sweeney out and got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:55 PM
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Something tells me a woman getting her vaginal region pierced isn't opting for medical grade metal alloys. Probably got the clit-ring from temu
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:49 PM
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You realize the thing on the left is an inkwell? So your picture is an inkwell well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:40 PM
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Good for the child, bad for the marriage and eventually the child if she gets the ick at a man doing womanly things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:38 PM
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The red pill take is 0%. No woman likes seeing a man doing feminine, motherly things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:37 PM
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iPad kids are a serious concern, but it raises more of a question that concludes with : we need a more involved (stay-at-home ) parent while the kids are young to obtain that level of care where kids get read to, fed well, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:23 AM
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That's different. If you saw him wearing an apron cooking dinner and fake breastfeeding a child with a big smile on his face as you got home from a hard day at the office, you can't tell me you wouldn't lose some respect for the guy. A butler and nanny isn't stoking any sexual fires in any woman I've ever known.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:53 AM
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I think a lot of people underestimate the number of shotgun weddings and babytrapping that happened, but I think that was more a relic of previous decades One thing I will commend newer generations on is their unwillingness to commit to shitty marriages for the sake of the kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:41 AM
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Exactly. Women in a sexually primal sense want Jack from the Titanic, not modern Dicaprio. That's likely why he only dates women for a few years at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:02 AM
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Maybe I'm traditional, but I think there are certain things men do that are feminine and will give women the ick; and one of those things is acting like a mother to really young children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:00 AM
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You believe a majority of those divorces are because the woman got "bored". So insanely bored as she juggles the household, a few kids and a couple pets. There's certainly more to it than that. I think ALL women innately pussywhip men into becoming boring, lesser versions of themselves; if not marrying boring lesser, "safe" men when it's time to settle down and have kids when the beasts they want to tame lose interest. It doesn't matter who a guy is (alpha, beta, whatever), women will try to chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:37 PM
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Thats exactly what you said, but I think explaining why is wasted time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:27 PM
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I thought that went without saying...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:20 PM
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If you know a guy is a selfish prick, why would you expect marriage to change that? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:15 PM
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A good chunk of women will abuse selfless men and pander to selfish men, so I'm not sure what you want me to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:05 PM
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Most women know if they want to date you or not within minutes of meeting you You're preaching to the choir, buddy. Why do you think I'm in such opposition to "friends first" advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:52 PM
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I'm just tired of these hollow takes on what men need to be or do that really don't really have any bearing on physical attraction. Tell men to start lifting weights and wearing clothes that fit properly and I'm with you 100%, but most of my friends that are married or in relationships put next to no effort into fashion besides throwing things out once they develop holes or bad stains.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:49 PM
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So just look at the symptom in a vacuum rather than the underlying problem? Solid strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:36 PM
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I'm just making a point. Women (and men, though I think OP is actually a woman larping as a man) will say men should do this and that, but then a guy hits back with "well what about this guy?" and suddenly it's "YoUr MiNdSeT iS blah blah blah"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:26 PM
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Because it is often said that women are the more empathetic sex, though reality paints a different picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:59 PM
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You act as if every man would cheat if the opportunity presented itself. So I'm going to act as if every woman is a lying whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:46 PM
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That younger women are willing to give them more (treat them better) than their literal wife. EDIT: and that men would rather try to keep the family together (if possible) so long as they can get their sexual needs met elsewhere (if the wife has become asexual)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:43 PM
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What do you think it means? That 80% of men are bad partners? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:41 PM
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Have you ever heard the saying "men will sacrifice happiness for their family, and women will sacrifice the family for happiness" ? What do you think this means?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:38 PM
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For many, the red pill is one of the only avenues to actually understanding their problems. People who run from problems don't try to understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:27 PM
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People with fame are the best people to make examples of when they fuck up so badly, but far too often they get away with being criminally antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:19 PM
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If I post some arbitrary reddit link or whatever, you'd dismiss it; so search for it yourself if you'd like. I've heard women say it in conversation, but unfortunately I didn't have a tape recorder or a stenographer with me at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:08 PM
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Bingo. No woman would prefer a man who wants to stay home to raise the kids, but they make tradeoffs because career and status chasing is very important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:54 PM
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2 to 3 % ??? Ha For the love of god, please change your flair to blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:53 PM
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Women who do have SAHHusbands do so out of necessity because they can't chase career and status in the capacity they desire if childrearing is also in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:50 PM
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Womanizer Chad could wear a wife-beater, cargo shorts, and crocs with socks to a party and still get laid. But I do agree that a lot of men dress schlubby and get prejudged because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:32 PM
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A guy who is attracted to a woman can only pretend to be her friend? I never said anything about pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:29 PM
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So why do women say "be her friend first?" Why is it so important to be a woman's friend before being her lover? and how many guys get stuck in the "friend-zone" because they followed this awful "befriend her first" advice? I'm not excusing guys being unclear about their intentions, but to give them some benefit of the doubt: there is awful societal advice that men are given with regards to pursuing romantic relationships - one such piece being "be her friend first."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:50 PM
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The thing is that the nice guy doesn't realize he's being overly nice, which can be seen in a transactional way. That's just how he was raised. It's not until his kindness gets abused one time too many that he realizes that it's not doing him any favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:46 PM
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Guys who don't realize they're being abused and abusive women deserve eachother? Imagine swapping the genders on a statement like that. How about we just say abuse is bad, instead of talking about how someone might deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:35 PM
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I'm not saying I let myself be a slave to the pussy. I'm saying enough men will be a slave to the pussy that women will sex as leverage in getting what they want with little other compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:29 PM
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Because enough men have experience seeing good women get tainted by a bad boy (or bad boys). I'm not going to assume a woman is a shitty person because she has the hots for a bad dude, but I'm going to silently judge her for enabling a shitty dude's toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:27 PM
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The way women, in a bid to get what they want, hold it above men's heads The way where there is this societal ideal where young men base a large part of their self worth around if they get, or don't get, it Shall I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:57 PM
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You've got it backwards. The point most people have when it comes to this topic is that women should stop opening their legs for men who refuse to do good. Why should men be good when the opposite is rewarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:10 PM
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Ah yes, the tired "men just want a bangmaid" trope. How about... stop going for men who only want to use you like this? I know it's impossible for women not to adore selfish men, but come the fuck on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:03 PM
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less likely to rely on people emotionally unless theyre fucking that person. In other words: most men give far more than they take when it comes to emotional support
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:42 PM
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It's a fairly empty buzzphrase that plays into the latest "women oppressed" theatre of the culture it. It seems to imply that it's only women being therapists for men, when we often see that women often require a lot of emotional upkeep compared to men. The reality is that a relationship involves two people being emotionally there for one another. If you don't want to do emotional labor, don't get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:05 PM
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Women want husband guy to come from the pool of hookup-worthy guys, but in the case that isn't possible: non-hookup husband material is the "settle guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:54 PM
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and "sweaty women look disgusting" ? Seriously? Who is he hanging around with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:17 PM
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Why do women have such a hard time accepting that your youth and your fertility are a package deal? Youth is valuable because a 25 year old will produce healthier kids than a 35 year old. Blame natural selection, or god or something... not men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:01 PM
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To me it sounds like OP has a type: man children She refuses to see that it's her that's the problem, so she projects the issue onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:43 PM
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The wall is the point at which a woman sees her best options lose interest. It can be a function of looks, baggage, single motherhood, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:58 PM
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Therapy for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:17 PM
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She chose him, she got him. How's that bad? Because he's not swatting women away like flies, it's a bad result for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:13 PM
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Most guys take what they can get. The average guy has such little optionality that he doesn't get to be picky. It's a foreign concept to women, I know... but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:08 PM
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loosely fitting linen clothing is an option if women don't want people to stare. I didn't make you put on those shorts that show the lower folds of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:50 AM
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Careful now. She bites
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:04 AM
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Absolutely dreadpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:58 PM
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You play into one of the oldest tropes about women that we don’t have anything else of a value to offer. I never once said or implied that in anything said in this conversation, so I'm not sure where you got that from. What you might have seen me say in the past is: if sex is all you offer, why should anyone want more?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 08:00 PM
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Not even if she can be her own pimp? That seems to be where women think it's empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:35 PM
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How long have you been married? If she doubled down instead of clarifying it was a joke, that suggests to me that she's trying to create distance in the bedroom so you start treating her like shit - which gives her carte blanche to leave the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:30 PM
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Q4Feminists: Sex work is empowering, but exploitative of vulnerable women... which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:42 PM
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It's feminist rhetoric, which is funny because the exact opposite (what you stated) is also feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:41 PM
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Exactly. Women can pretend to be their own pimps with the current setup, but you can't be a pimp and a prostitute too - the business entity hosting the quasi-prostitution is the pimp
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:53 PM
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1 Sex work is empowering 2 Sex work is for vulnerable women to be exploited Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:48 PM
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Let's say a woman takes one of these surveys. She's having a casual thing with a guy she really wants a relationship with, but "it's complicated." When the question "are you in a relationship?" comes up on the poll... what do you think she answers with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:57 PM
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She seems to be of the camp that men shouldn't feel lonely if they can't find a relationship, because they can rely on friendships and other things; but this fails to account for how the male loneliness epidemic largely centres around men who just can't get intimacy no matter the effort they put in. No we can't get intimacy from our guy friends, or our family, or pets... it comes from a relationship. Long story short: she doesn't want to empathize or even try to understand what this "male loneli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:36 PM
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Lured out of a relationship just to get cheated on? Sounds like karmic justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:31 PM
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Oh sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:54 PM
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It's just culture war bullshit. Ragebait that drives negative reaction, so it seems like it's more big of a deal than it really is. Most women don't care if guys want to get mail-order brides or go overseas to find wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:20 PM
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Natural selection
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:38 PM
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Silent edit? Are you projecting or do you just need to take your meds?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:09 PM
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A man has to be at or near the top of the hierarchy, or else he will be looked over for whoever does sit at the top of the hierarchy. Women are looking for the best. Not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:07 PM
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It's a hollow proclamation that doesn't reflect reality. Did you think you were saying something profound?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:05 PM
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This is BS. He is either attractive or not, and you'll know in the first seconds of seeing him. He might grow on you as a partner, but he's not going to give you the butterflies suddenly years down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:47 PM
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As in not interested in approaching? Or 95% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:25 PM
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Exactly. All of these traits are completely misattributed on average men, because they're an encapsulation of the traits of the chads that do their psychic damage to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:19 PM
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The issue is this: All of those problems are ignored by various women so long as the guy is very attractive and womanizing. In fact, sometimes the guys that get the most women are extremely guilty of the things you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:17 PM
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This is why divorce is initiated so much by women: Sex dries up, husband gets sexually frustrated because earlier in the relationship they were having lots of sex, he doesn't feel any motivation to be a good partner because he feels duped (since sex was frontloaded in the relationship, just like interest on a loan), might even become a bit cold-hearted and out of love, and then the woman uses this as ammo to break the family up without any guilt. Men sacrifice their happiness for the family. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:19 PM
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But that guy still gets one of the more valuable things a woman can offer on the short term. This is why men feel cheated when a woman who was an easy lay for bums plays hard to get once she stops being as desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:51 PM
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Why ask the question if you're going to dismiss a valid answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:59 PM
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There's certainly a growing dislike for slutty guys (studs), because they leave a path of damaged women in their wake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:12 PM
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This. Women project "only going for the hottest of the hotties" onto men because that's exactly what a lot of them do. There are guys who would fuck a hole in the drywall so long as it's wet enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:52 PM
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The fact that recently there was a girl that turned 18 and started an OF and made hundreds of thousands of dollars within basically hours of becoming of age should tell you something fishy is going on with the platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:49 PM
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They're just doing what most women do: trying all of the options and selecting the best when the ride ends... and sometimes this involves playing games and stringing people along
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:41 PM
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Reminds me of the quote: "it's easier to lie to someone than to convince them they've been lied to."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:38 PM
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I guess I was vague, as I meant hookup guy with husband qualities will be turned into a husband. Of course I don't mean the guy you only want for a quick fuck who ends up being clingy and needy - lots of women would find those qualities antithetical in a guy they would hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:22 PM
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If a woman can turn a hookup into a husband, she will. Problem is the guys that are hookup AND husband material are slippery because they have so many options, so women really have to choose certainty (betabux) or uncertainty (alphabux)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:47 PM
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Is that a serious question? Are you implying a man can't, or doesn't want to, show love?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:40 PM
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because having a woman, a wife, grants you access to more social spheres This is spot on the money. Male friend groups are small, but once you add women (via girlfriends or wives) and their friends to the mix, the circle at least quadruples in size.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:52 AM
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You completely fail to understand male loneliness. It's not about wanting friends to confide in, it's not about sex... it's about wanting a partner. Perhaps some women are too used to only being used for sex, but there are guys out there that want to be in relationships; believe it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:47 AM
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that is also true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:46 AM
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Some kind of musical instrument and a taste in music that extends beyond the top 40 (bonus points if she listens to her parents old vinyls)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:37 PM
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This is the biggest factor for me. Sure, young women are hot; but the major selling point is that their personalities haven't been soured from life's disappointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:35 PM
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women are more likely to be abused in relationships Men don't report abuse nearly as much as women do, so any statistic suggesting women are more likely to be abused should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:03 PM
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That's half of the picture
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:49 PM
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My grandfather died with a full head of hair. Baldcels are almost worse with their doom and gloom than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:41 PM
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Ever hear of contacts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:39 PM
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men who smell better pull better And yet you have guys cleaning up who don't even know they need to wash their asscrack
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:36 PM
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Same. Women enjoy that benefit, but not men. Hell, a decent sized chunk of my tax contributions are going to women who made terrible decisions in terms of picking men to have children with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:19 PM
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Women, as a collective, don't have to run away from civilization, and they collect more benefit from taxes than what they pay in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:17 PM
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That's a smart woman, then. How old were they when they started dating? and was that before dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 12:38 AM
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Is his family wealthy? I always assume when a woman takes a man under her wings that there's a reason for it, or they were highschool sweethearts, or she's a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 12:15 AM
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Alcohol is a class 1 carcinogen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:50 PM
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Exactly. Narcissism isn't the same as playing into one's strengths.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:33 PM
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A guy doesn't have to be a doormat to be non-intimidating or incapable of being a dick. I'm more talking guys who just have no capacity to be cruel or mean to another person, even when it's justified - but perhaps that is a bit doormat-like
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:13 PM
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Women would fare better if they tried to "break" the nice guy, instead of fixing the badboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:09 PM
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Guy who can be an asshole > guy who is an asshole > nice guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:37 PM
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Chappell Roan. She does her makeup like a drag-queen because she wouldn't have been noticed if she went on her looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:35 PM
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Women love a guy who can be a bit of an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:25 PM
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I don't necessarily seek to determine fault, but I certainly avoid giving the benefit of the doubt until I know more than one side of the story. For example: when a woman says her previous boyfriend was abusive or an asshole (or something like that), my default response is kind of a "okay, and?" Rather than accept she's the victim by playing into the whole "I'm not like that" or "I'm so sorry to hear that" schtick, I deflect and see if she tells on herself later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:21 PM
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Trying to minimize your right swipe % is key for any guy who is still using dating apps. Desperate guys don't realize that by swiping on every woman, a guy totally destroys his hidden score that is used to determine which profiles to show that particular user - and that's because ugly chad-chasers that get lots of no-swipes lower a guys score if he swiped yes while she swiped no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:09 PM
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Even chad has slow weeks where he gives mid women some fun-time. This is part of the issue where even plain-jane average woman won't settle for less than a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:22 PM
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When women can make their own money, most would prefer an alpha trophy boyfriend/husband that starts as a hookup. There was a hookup vs marriage thread weeks back where women confirmed that women would prefer that a hookup proves himself to be husband material (aka alphafuxx). The conclusion I draw from that is that a husband doesn't have to be betabuxx, but he absolutely is one if he doesn't start as a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:20 PM
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Again, he probably often had women use him to reach stardom and trying to bail the second they had a bit of limelight; so he saw no problem "using" them by wrapping them into longer term commitments thanks to fine print. I'm not necessarily excusing his behavior... I can just see why he resorted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:28 PM
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Rugged rough around the edges guy does very well in terms of short term relationships when he is young and women are young. He stops doing as well with long-term relationship success when the beta pushover making more money at a white collar job starts to become a prime target to these women as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:25 PM
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Flair checks out. Dark triad men, narcissists... aka <5% of the overall male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:40 PM
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It's this. Women, being good manipulators of men, are completely blind to good manipulation by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:39 PM
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Look at NFL quarterbacks. Look at golfers. The most attractive ones have the hottest gfs/wives. The ugly ones, even if they're super bowl winning, marry mids that treat them like betas
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:32 AM
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Any of this financial abuse angle completely ignores that these women were using the Hefster as a means to an end to reach for stardom. They relied on (used) him for their careers and the spotlight more than anything, so maybe he was tired of girlfriends making it and instantly leaving. Of course he could find new women whenever, but he probably lost a few women he really liked over the course of his life - does this make financial abuse right? of course not. But, it is what it is. They got what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:22 PM
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Oh. My bad. I just saw a list of dinosaurs and assumed OP was trying to make a 21st century argument like we're still living in or earlier than the mid 20th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:26 PM
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Hugh Hefner? Talk about cherrypicking lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:19 PM
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You forget these men lived in times where women were reliant on men, therefore going for high status was paramount. Looks-preference has come to the forefront because women are now entirely independent and don't need no man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:00 PM
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Women will say it's for the kids or whatever, but really they just hate that sexless men have a release and don't need to play stupid games.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:55 PM
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More conservative women are both more likely to be pressured to stay in marriages Boogeyman talk, and it seems like you're suggesting women don't have agency. What actually happens is these women saw that their grandparents (and/or parents) had their fights and turbulence, but stuck together and were happy for it in old age. Compare this to how people who divorce often never find anything better and end up alone and miserable, and you might see why some women decide staying in a less than perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:19 PM
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Obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:15 PM
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So if poor people can't buy the cheap beef in their price range, suddenly they start buying up ribeyes instead? That is the only way prices could "skyrocket." That's like saying the price of fancy Italian pasta restaurants would go up if cheap box macaroni was sold out. Realistically, the price of pork would go up because cheap cuts of pork would be the sub for cheap cuts of beef.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:05 PM
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Emotional cheating for women doesn't just happen... it has become so normalized that we have terms like "work husband"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:23 AM
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Is it a low IQ thing? I don't think so. Women are notoriously solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:34 AM
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It makes more sense when you realize these women (the ones giving this advice) are bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:23 AM
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Can't make this shit up. Except you are, or at least fabricating many of the details. He tried to save a girl from getting carjacked and the goon-squad jumped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:20 AM
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Arguing in good faith with people like her will just make you jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:10 AM
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Despite claiming that women Despite women claiming many women here say That's the whole point of the thread, but your narcissism is making you think the thread should be about what you want it to be about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:46 AM
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Your life on PPD will become much better and more productive if you stop wasting so much effort on people like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:41 AM
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All men receiving the blame for the actions of a small group of deadbeat chads your flair is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:12 AM
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generic trendy tattoo and making everything about her vagina so original
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:09 AM
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You're pretending these women are valuable in the dating market, but they really aren't. Ribeye steaks don't become more expensive when mystery meat or dollar-store steaks are on backorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:05 AM
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Their advice seems to track with reality much better than most of the advice women give struggling men Fixed it As long as women give terrible advice to struggling men, dating "gurus" will thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:37 PM
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If you're going to give it away for low effort because a guy is hot, that's your prerogative; but don't come crying to me when guys only want you for low effort sex, as that's the value you established for yourself. If I have to work harder to be treated as less than a guy who got it for free, I'd be a sucker to take said deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:28 PM
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we're actually realistic understand their are costs and benefits 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:16 PM
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Your comment reeks of "I'm not like the other girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:42 PM
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Bingo. "be confident" is the same as fake it til you make it to the people receiving it as advice, as it is likely given to a person with confidence or self-esteem issues... Assertiveness is one of several steps/actions that will help a person become more confident over time, but there really is not shortcut to confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:34 PM
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Men don't shop for the family because... and don't let this shock you too much... Women won't let men shop for the family! Early on, the man learns that every item introduces another opportunity for her to nit-pick (be it clothes for the kids, groceries, wine, etc.), so he just defers any sort of shopping for the family task to her; because in her eyes he will just never do it right, and it's actually important for the man to recognize that he will never be a better shopper than the woman. Men k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:35 PM
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That's a bingo. A woman who relies on dating apps (over IRL) for connections is essentially desperate given her circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:43 AM
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The damage online gambling will do in the long-run is like the last thing on anyone's mind in the advertising business, and it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:05 PM
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Isn't geeked a methamphetamine term?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:59 PM
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I'm not looking for a partner at Target, I'm tryna buy things I need This is said a lot, but you're all telling a half truth. If you see a guy you like at target, what are the odds you try to make yourself approachable? Some women make total fools of themselves trying to get a guy's attention in places like the grocery store. I personally enjoy unisex clothing stores, bookstores, and weekday evenings at the grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:20 AM
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Hopefully nothing too uncomfortable or harassing. Were you at least flattered some of the time? There's really nothing like an old man's "life's too short to pussy out" attitude and confidence. Most younger guys could learn a thing or two. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott" - Wayne Gretzky Roughly how many guys around your age have approached you over the years?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:56 PM
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cause all men are cheaters, amirite? good lord
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:40 PM
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I think it's a way for guys to set and test if a woman can respect boundaries. If he wants to keep it private, and has stated as such, but she starts telling the world, it's a good sign she won't respect the other boundaries he sets in the relationship. I could see things being private in the early stages if the guy has lots of options but is largely monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:30 PM
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Private is usually if he doesn't want people to know yet, hiding is when she doesn't want people to know EVER.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:27 PM
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“Men don’t commit anymore." Completely false. Plenty of men commit. If you’re not meeting them, you’re fishing in the wrong pond or ignoring the ones who actually want commitment in favor of men who never will. That’s on you. I think this is the one that is lost on women. They are so focused on a trophy-level attractive boyfriend (the same kind of guy that all women are shooting for) that they ignore guys who might not have as many options but still would make phenomenal partners. For women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:25 PM
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Men, women, or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:51 PM
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Attraction is irrational, therefore it is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:39 PM
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So you know he's a desperate gigasimp?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:11 PM
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The nature of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:26 PM
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You aren't getting it? This post is basically just an admission that women won't empathize with men until some movie or media exists that makes it trendy to empathize with struggling men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:05 PM
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Nah, it's just that the internet is generation Z's therapist - among other things... Parent, mentor, entertainment, etc. Never before has there been an opportunity for people to talk (in depth) to people that have related interests in an anonymous-ish way. It's fascinating, really. On top of that, there's more individuality than ever; although you definitely see trends in men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:40 AM
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That's such hilariously naive thinking when the guy has womanizing persona about him. I'm really not sure how women haven't caught onto how guys who are naturals have lots of options yet... or maybe they just don't want to admit that they know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:16 AM
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Talk about an STD nightmare. And some of these women expect the good men to take them as they are after this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:09 AM
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It's usually implied: when a woman with a sexual past of any sort is choosing to be single, there's usually a very non-zero chance that some hot dirtbag is dicking her down well while she keeps him a secret
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:46 AM
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It would probably look way better on a hot summer day at the park or out on the town versus how it looks here on that backdrop with artificial light, so go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:26 AM
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I say ignore her. Hard to ignore it when it's being shoved down your throat to stoke the latest instalment in the race war.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:20 AM
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Reminds me of the meme "women will say they like intelligence and then proceed to date a guy who puts his finger under each word to read"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:44 PM
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put on Kahn academy I guess. Woman: So what did you study? Man: Lots of topics that interest me. In particular I have a passion for calculus, physics, and organic chemistry. Woman: Oh, cool! So what kind of degree did you end up getting? Man: Degree? I just watched youtube videos in my spare time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:49 PM
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For some it's a psychological trap and crutch for everyday activity and dopamine, for others they are a tool with many functions (apps, google, etc). I'm a phone silent and hidden during socials kind of guy, so you can understand how I get easily annoyed when people are just glued to their phones in front of me; but I'm in no way for saying people shouldn't be able to have them. I use my phone maybe 2-3h a week, and that fully justifies the ludicrous phone bill they're charging for the things th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:44 AM
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I like being a photographer because people are always willing to take a shot for you when you hand em a camera. EZ cheat code
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:26 AM
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IG/FB/Snap still exists and I’d argue it’s more effective than dating apps It seems to get its effectiveness from being required by some women. For those women, you basically have to have social media or else you're a serial killer. They want to be able to check you out and socially "verify" you before they agree to a date or anything. TL;dr: women are huge social media stalkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:14 AM
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Well, they're likely here to stay. There's an equilibrium that needs to be established, and nobody really knows where that lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:00 AM
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Acknowledging that social media and dating apps might be part of the problem because of the power imbalance they introduce has, until recently, been labelled as 'InC*L' rhetoric, so you're right that these views probably shouldn't be mentioned to women. I'm just thinking about it... "Hey lady, you have this power imbalance thanks to the appearance of options and male interest - and I dislike that you have it" ... "what do you mean you don't want to see me anymore?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:59 AM
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Because lily plays a dumb girl but she's actually low-key a genius
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:47 AM
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Did you take basic biology? Cell biology will wreck you if you take it before more general biology courses, even if it's only 100 level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:46 AM
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Photoshop and lightroom for the profile pics is another 250 a year Dating is expensive as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:44 AM
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Did someone say harmonies? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGn1lsUIdlw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:46 AM
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meep meep
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:32 AM
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No amount of alcohol is safe therefore it's not safe to drink while pregnant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:07 PM
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It took an oppressive religious system with a baked in fear of a higher power to suppress female sexuality on a mass scale. The pendulum was disassembled with atheism and sexual revolution. There is no swinging back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:11 PM
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Women here will often say they always see ugly or average dudes with hot women. They're talking about people like Jeff Bezos or rich athletes, not people they personally know. The more you know...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:58 PM
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Corollary: Any time women say "all men," you need to realize they're talking about a hilariously small percentage of men that they fancy, not the average guy who is invisible at worst, or at best a utility, to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:32 PM
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The funny thing is I don't think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:25 AM
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I don't get what's so appealing to a woman about having a lot of sex indiscriminately. It's not the win you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:45 AM
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A top tier, desired guy is less replaceable than a top tier woman. That's why you see DiCaprio or Tom Brady get a new supermodel gf every few years, while the women those men dated (or in Tom's case married) aren't able to really replace Leo or Tom in terms of status and such. It's also why partly you see women clinging to situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:35 PM
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The tyranny was implied, my guy. My observation of the redpill ideology, is that redpill men can't function without control. Sounds like the same language they're pinning on trump as to paint him as a dictator, no? You're saying red pill men are controlling because they want to be, not because the necessity of it when it comes to long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:59 PM
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You think that because those are the types of women you go after, hence my post. No. Almost every man has anecdotes to support this quote Because you guys don’t actually pay attention to women like you guys think you do. The classic "well obviously you don't know any women" dismissal. Try again. Because normal people hang around normal people. Dysfunctional people typically don’t understand how dysfunctional they really are. The most well-formed rebuttal I've ever seen to this topic, and it stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:57 PM
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I don't know how many times this has to be said, but: women set standards for guys they don't find attractive, and relax them for chad. A woman doesn't have to be dysfunctional to fall for the toxic bad-boy, and I'm tired of people constantly saying this with no real grounds for their reasoning other than some basic just-world fallacy shit. Guys will tell you based on personal observations there seems to be, quite literally, no correlation with only bad women getting with bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:30 PM
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It's not some tyrannical desire for power and control, but everyone seems to look at the red pill as if it is unadulterated tyranny. Let me fix your understanding a bit and propose that it's actually understanding that a woman will not respect you if you can't make her feel powerless or if she feels you can't lead . Now, is that to say a guy should be on a power-trip around women at all times to earn their respect? No - those are the very "red pill" guys you're talking about. But it is to say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:40 PM
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Women don't have a baked in instinct to provide anything other than babies to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:14 PM
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I think people forget how men play a much more important role as the kids get older. Children are naturally bonded to the mother in early ages, and that overshadows the role of father setting boundaries and being a disciplinarian as the kids reach puberty and start getting out of hand. IDK.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:19 PM
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tl;dr: you're here for the zipline
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:57 PM
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There's a time and place for everything, darling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:53 PM
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To be fair, I didn't have the gonads to judge them when I was a younger man. I'm very unapologetic lately with regards to choices of partners. People mostly get what they deserve, but good women falling for badboys is the weird outlier without an explanation anybody can agree upon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:48 PM
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Maybe if you live in Lincoln, Nebraska
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:45 PM
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I had a great young dentist, but the office and the sales tactics were fucked - so I split. I would in a minute go back to the dentist in the future - he did a great job with a major procedure, and the MBA at the clinic did a fucking terrible one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:38 PM
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That's a healthy outlook as long as you can just identify respect. If a woman doesn't respect a man, it won't work out regardless of his status, resources, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:09 PM
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If they're all bisexual, this is a moot point. Big if, but worth considering
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:08 PM
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A cosmo piece? That's a source these days? (there is something to be said about the parents of millennials though. They lived during woodstock and the sexual revolution)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:52 PM
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Bingo. Chad came off as needy and begged for sex, therefore all men are sex beggars
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:45 PM
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No they didn't. The fear of GOD is a helluva drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:42 PM
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You've got it backwards. They hate the idea, but love the reality - which is why you see women date the men that they date. The very problem arises when women think they can respect a man that is equally or less "powerful," to where women are brainwashed into entertaining relationships that will never work out in a long-term sense to where women biologically crave "powerful" men. Ask yourself this: of those "happy wife, happy life" guys that you know, how many are totally miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:37 PM
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Easier if you accept is as ephemeral. As in "she's not yours, it's just your turn." If you don't treat it as such, online dating is bound to disappoint the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:24 PM
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Perhaps there's some overlap with the men you're describing and men that can be rewarded and manipulated with sex, but it seems to me you've entirely missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:23 PM
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There's so much going on behind the scenes here that you or I can't even really pretend to know about. When someone does a triple homicide when his kids are taken from him, you have to at least be asking some questions about the relationship in general. It won't at all be shocking to me if the evidence points to that she was trying to frame him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:17 PM
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It always hurts most when you're the most enthusiastic. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:14 PM
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Agreed. If it looks like you're just regurgitating studies without actually trying to comprehend the methods and the conclusion, that will make many people nope out of a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:34 PM
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If it makes you feel better, then go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:33 PM
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You just listed traits that appeal to your lust or ego tbh Square peg, meet round hole
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:30 PM
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I think they're frantically trying to make it work because the threat of female sex-bots is persistent, but I don't think women will ever be content with artificial (fake) emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:20 PM
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These days it's not just about posting studies that support your stance. It's easy to go find a study that says one thing, but just as easy to find a study that says the exact opposite. Therefore, it's also about also finding studies that refute your stance and finding the flaws in them as a means to strengthen the validity of the studies that you are basing your stance on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:01 PM
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Okay then, nice talk I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:51 PM
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I have no problems with a woman smoking pot in a responsible manner. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:48 PM
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Friends, relatives, colleagues... But I guess I didn't know those people because it goes against your beliefs!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:47 PM
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These sound like women you don't really know Nice try, pumpkin
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:40 PM
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Polite, bubbly, surrounded by good friends and families. Dating the toxic guys (usually playboy drug dealers) poisoned some of them, but not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:33 PM
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Not like you do as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:22 PM
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Plenty of women I knew were great girls that still ended up dating toxic guys. The whole toxic attracts toxic is an empty platitude when it comes to the guys women choose to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:22 PM
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But the line is quite blurred between withholding it and not wanting it but giving it because he's so desperate that he will do anything. It's not malicious or intentional most of the time, but it can become a pattern of manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:41 PM
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It's far more common than women will admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:16 PM
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Yes. Where I see the most variance in terms of people not being necessarily looksmatched but still perfect for each other is: highschool sweethearts. Here you might see an 8 with a 6, but everything works out. When women start to have variety, that's seems to be where you see increasingly strict looks thresholds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:39 AM
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She gives that sloppy toppy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:45 PM
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It's this. The guy is an absolute degen considering how he'll deceitfully advertise for online casinos and gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:44 PM
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Not to a bossbabe, stronk, independent type that just needs to get off every now and then. They serve a purpose so long as they aren't clingy and wanting more than sex out of the arrangement. Some women absolutely have a living, breathing dildo - he could be a felon, a future felon, or otherwise a bum - he's hot and dicks her down well is all that matters in this type of "relationship"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:39 PM
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The guy was looking to get laid on the third date and she already saw him as husband-material and not a hookup. Basically: he was BB, and he came on way to strong trying to be AF; so she saw he was fake in some regard and it was an "ick." Notice how she didn't say he's attractive or charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:17 PM
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C. She might not entertain a relationship if she has financial standards for that kind of partner, but he could absolutely end up being a longer term fwb if he plays his cards right and doesn't fall in love. This dynamic describes a lot of situationships, where successful women will casually see absolute losers just because they're hot womanizers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:09 PM
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The data is irrelevant to what were talking about. If you take the true definition of single, most women 18-39 will answer with "in a relationship" when they're actually single but currently acting as a booty call/fwb to a guy they want a relationship with. "It's complicated" is basically in a relationship for a woman who is smitten.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:44 PM
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Younger men are struggling to date women their age? and older men have no problems getting wives or common-laws? Shocker. Why do women pretend that the 3 year average age gap doesn't exist, and notably exists on a bell curve...?? So "single" in reference to this study isn't actually what being single is ... riiiiiiiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:41 PM
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I'm a one tear in public kind of guy for a happy or sad moment, but at home with a good movie or drama of some kind I can straight up chop onions. Music can also bring tears out for me. Outlets are healthy, being out of control of your emotions in public because you bottle everything up is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:33 PM
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Everyone else goes thrifting and they find a vintage chanel top for $5. Why Because they're faking it. "Thrift steal-deals" is a highly viral category of social media fodder these days, so of course people are going to make shit up to get in on the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:59 PM
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Make up is deception. Remember when someone made an app for men to be able to de-makeup women's faces, and it got banned? Meanwhile the dox/character assassination platform Tea is simply "controversial"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:54 PM
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"I think we just grew apart slowly after you crying at our wedding gave me the ick" Happy tears are best kept to a guy's self.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:50 PM
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It'll look good next to the skeletons
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:46 PM
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You see this dynamic with high status men. They will have dedicated girlfriend or wife at home that lets them sleep around. In that coldplay CEO situation, the wife of the guy probably knew he was going to Coldplay with his HR concubine - I mean, why the fuck else would you go to coldplay other than to appease a woman? The only reason that thing blew up so much is because it was an opportunity for women to inject their opinions about how men are bad and the guys wife should leave - even though, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:25 PM
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So tell me what's wrong with an incel only having eyes for Stacy with the big tits and slim waist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:19 PM
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You're forgetting that some women in situationships (especially those younger than 30) gaslight themselves into thinking they are in relationships, and they self-exclude from the "single" category on these polls and surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:16 PM
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Bingo. Men innately are protective of, and easy on, women. I think the red pill scares women so much because it makes men introspect about how much trouble/danger they can get into by following subconscious impulses without proper awareness - like being overly protective of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:15 PM
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dead-faced chemotherapy look makes my pp hard
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:08 PM
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But he has to be attractive first and foremost, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:07 PM
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The majority of women aren’t single at 30 Seriously?? I live in a conservative area and it seems like at least 50% of women were/are single at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:07 PM
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Women think in terms of "why should I date someone I'm not attracted to?" (aka chad only) so I don't see why it's only a problem when guys do this (stacy only)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:09 PM
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Fan fiction? You can try to dismiss your way out of this conversation all you want, but take a look around and tell me what percentage of couples do you see where the man towers over the woman? What percentage of couples do you see where an average (at best) woman is dating a guy several leagues above her? Women are highly selective on somewhat immutable characteristics as a baseline for even considering a guy, and the discussions in this sub often are general proof. Why women become so specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:07 PM
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If sex isn't a reward, why do a lot of women treat it as such to manipulate men into giving them their way? eg: no sex until he also starts doing the dishes after cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:57 PM
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Both are important, but one doesn't overcome for a lack in the other - and that's what people refuse to talk about... Unless we're talking first love, high-school sweetheart shit, and even then: long term relationships are just... ephemeral these days. At any point in time, either person can just decide to leave. Not saying that's bad, but that it's hard to see a long-term relationship as beneficial to life if that is the outcome 50% or more of the time (just basing off divorce rates as a rough …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:33 AM
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There's only so many attractive husband guys to go around, and that's exactly where we see hypergamy play out - women going for attraction first, and then coalescing on the earner and achiever group of that minority of attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:18 AM
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I'm glad we can agree on something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:36 PM
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Not really. Taking accountability is a process of growth and learning from mistakes. It's actually hilarious to say a basic life responsibility is a buzzword, and kind of proof in and of itself that women are terrible at accountability. Not being able to admit to a mistake is childlike and anti-progressive. You're giving off these vibes: "Basic critique of women? Nah, it's a buzzword; so fuck it... I don't need to worry myself with that shit" When I burnt my hand on the stove, I didn't curse the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:09 PM
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And she'll forego the requirement for a man to be "good" and take a bad one so long as he is tall and attractive. Welcome to the mindfuck that is taking what women say at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:53 PM
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As long as women place attraction as a highest priority, I see "good man" as an entirely empty platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:51 PM
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No. Men think she looks bad here because it's the look of someone going through a bad bout of chemotherapy - no eyebrows, gaunt face, utterly emotionless. Health and fertility make up a lot of the physical markers that men in general are attracted to, and women who look like they're going through chemo are generally not healthy or fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:48 PM
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When "chad-lite" is actually a dork If he was a true chad, she wouldn't have this level of discontent even if he was unhealthily obsessed with my little pony or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:26 PM
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If women didn't like smokers (as many claim), badboys would be incels Women only hate when a beta smokes, because he's spending that money on cigarettes and not her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:04 PM
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men are socially groomed since birth with "Demand more, never settle, compromising with your wife means you are a pussy loser", while women are socially groomed since birth with "Demand less, always settle, give up your and your childrens' names to your husband. If he doesn't clean up after himself or help with the kids at all, and you ask him to do so, you're a nagging bitch. Women are Helpmeats designed to help men." This take is TwoX coded in the most egregious way. Have you tried going outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:22 PM
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An app designed for users to dox people ends up doxxing its users. I'm shocked! Who could have seen it coming?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:23 PM
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In case you didn't notice, there are areas or groups that drive cultural change - zeitgeists. Haight-Ashbury was the birthplace of the sexually freed hippy drifter culture. Now that we live in this hyperlinked world where the internet drives culture more than anything, the shit you see influencer women in Miami and LA do eventually trickles down and normalizes behaviors that you see picked up by western women via the zeitgeist - in this case, social media. I think influencers are a good place to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:44 PM
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Right? All of the mental gymnastics to make it something other than what it (so women can keep dating these men) is never stops being funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:37 PM
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It entertains me how people are trying to make this a 1:1 comparison between men and women when it's not even close. Most men take what they can get, and most women get what they'll take. What that means is men usually stay single in the time where the ex runs off to have her fun. So while she racks up sexual partners or immediately jumps into a new relationship, the guy will generally get zero (or one to two rebound flings) because he's busy picking up the pieces after being blindsided (and pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:26 PM
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The red pill doesn't recruit. People just show up and say "okay, so I'm not actually crazy" There's more and more examples of things happening in the mainstream where guys are left thinking "oh, so women are master bullshitters and I'm not wrong for thinking/observing X, Y, and Z," and that opens up the rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:39 PM
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It's kind of like watching a fatal accident in slow motion when a guy takes back a woman who previously left him because she thought she could do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:35 PM
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Playing god never ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:39 PM
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Alls I'm really saying is that treating black bears as if they're harmless might get one a Darwin award
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:31 PM
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It also kind of points to the phenomena where once a woman has observed a man showing interest, she thinks he will orbit indefinitely and she can just pluck him out of orbit whenever. This why a woman gets pissed when that guy she's been stringing along bails and finds someone else to focus his attention on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:41 PM
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A black bear who has grown up in the general presence of humans such that she isn't scared will maul the fuck out of someone if they get between her and her cubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:37 PM
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Women don't do constructive criticism well because critique implies disapproval from the group This is also why some women will lie or say things they don't believe as to appear virtuous so the group views them more positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:55 PM
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That's bait, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:50 PM
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Women stopped needing men, therefore stopped being as appealing of partners like their grandmothers were decades before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:26 PM
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I speak out of my ass when it comes to modern film and tv because I'm a bit behind on the times, but you obviously get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:52 AM
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Probably maybe. If she was my type and wasn't too sexualized. Exhibit A for me is Anne Hathaway, or Anna De Armas. Defs my type because they're intelligent, cute, and have done well for themselves in terms of roles as beautiful women without having to get too overly sexualized like Megan Fox. Exhibit NO is someone who just kind of does porny stuff in general in movie and tv. Multiple sex scenes with every different character they play is definitely an ick. The difference is that film is a higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:38 AM
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Hoeflation. Many women are demanding skyhigh "prices" despite offering less value as a life partner than their grandmothers did, and the ephemerality of love and marriage is more apparent than it's ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:57 PM
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You wot? No Turkey?! You fucking idiot, Jeremy!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:59 PM
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It's not about liking. It's about overall consumption and social acceptance because of best-seller status. Those books at the time opened a lot of average women up at to BDSM and more violent styles of love making, regardless of if they liked the book or not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 05:08 AM
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And that's what a lot of women learn the second they go to university to play a sport other than something like tennis, golf, or other sports that or more pleasing to a male and female audience. The thing about some of these WNBA people? They're making a fuck load of money on sponsorships and such. Don't think they aren't making money and consequently trying to "help" women's sports... think they're just cashing out in the biggest way possible while in the peak of their career, because that's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:35 AM
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So it went viral... "just because"...? I think its virality, especially with women, is very interesting, and now you see some women consuming even more depraved vampire or w/e BDSM fantasy smut...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:19 AM
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The author wrote about BDSM - something she clearly knew very little about, as BDSM community got pretty offended. One clearly doesn't need to know much about BDSM to be able to write a best-seller then, and that's what pisses off the BDSM community. Probably countless fiction writers in the community who have books that are revered by the community, but those authors are relegated to obscurity. Meanwhile, this basic bitch that isn't even part of the community comes along and steals the BDSM fic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:04 AM
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Fiction generally has some basis in reality. The author probably got stalked and liked it, or it's a fantasy; either way, what would compel her to put such in her fictional work of a character that is eerily similar to her? In fact, it seems that a lot of fifty shades of grey is generally about a woman accepting certain things that are taboo because they are central to the kinks of a guy she really likes. The duality of women seems to be "I shouldn't do these things because they're degrading, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:42 AM
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Christian Grey literally stalks the MC of Fifty Shades and shows up at her part time job. Stalking sits in a weird grey area... some women are flattered by the obsessiveness of it, and others are wholly creeped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:28 AM
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You really want to see these lanky women with boyish bodies wearing bikinis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:18 AM
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Sexism might have paved a way for where misandry could flourish, but sexism isn't necessarily hate. We have seen a sharp increase in misogyny recently, and I think part of it is that women have been rabidly misandristic to the point where many men have no choice but to hate back (women asked for equality, and men are giving it to them) - treat others as to how you want to be treated basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:54 PM
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That's an extremely nihilistic viewpoint, and it hurts you to hold it because you might not be able to see the good in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:58 PM
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Agreed. The female gaze is basically that the average woman has the potential to tame billionaire playboy chad and get him to give up his womanizing lifestyle. There's also another version where a high status hag is a sugar-momma to a young chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:34 PM
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no offense but the men who believe shit like this are usually pussies it's also thug/goon behaviour. Pussies who feel an intense need to feel stronger often just emulate thugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:15 PM
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Are you saying the onus is on the woman to disclose that? Would you like undesirables approaching you and trying to ask you out? If your answer is no, then I think he is saying the onus is on women to establish stronger indicators of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:15 PM
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Have you ever considered that most men aren't misinterpreting signals and just try to shoot their shot with women that are kind? and these men aren't simply looking at the kindness purely as "she wants the dick?" In other words, guys aren't like "she wants me" simply because the woman is being nice; they look at a kind woman as a relationship prospect so they think "maybe I should see if she's interested." Remember, dating for a man is largely a numbers game, so it's not beyond possibility that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:11 PM
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Men would have more incentive to get their shit together if women actually supported and cheered for them during the race... however: when men are young and trying to get their shit together, most of the women they would be happy to date are busy "having their fun" getting played by the winners of previous races
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:03 PM
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A few questions come to mind. Please answer honestly. How many other women are waiting at the finish line as well? How many women are following the race from the sidelines and trying to pick a potential winner? Why would a man crossing the finish line want to commit to some basic woman who didn't watch him and support him while he was running the race? --- This wait at the finish line mindset a lot of women have is a big reason why so many women are getting "pumped and dumped," and it's hilariou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:57 PM
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Dodging the question with projection is amateur
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:48 AM
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I think an open marriage offers a beta the best chance of keeping his wife in the long term. To use a fishing analogy... the idea is that if you give her enough line, she'll tire out by the time the line loses its slack; then it's easy to reel her in. On the other hand: keep the line short and slackless, and she'll just thrash and break the line if she really wants to be off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:30 AM
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And what does it say about you when you punch down on said men in an obscure subreddit? Does it make you better? or worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:24 AM
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I mean, to think you can own someone is considered... well... morally bankrupt these days. "She's not yours, it's just your turn" is actually the best mindset to have if you want to minimize the emotional loss when that person eventually moves on. It's the possessiveness that is our psychological downfall when the inevitable end of the relationship comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:22 AM
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1 Reassurance - to have a partner that shares long term goals, and consequently holds me to such a standard 2 Security - in terms of a relationship that doesn't end just because she thinks the grass could be greener 3 Children - self explanatory 1 and 2 would have to be satisfied before considering 3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:37 AM
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I like analogies because they cut a lot of the fat and pave the way for a much deeper conversation. But, if somebody gets hung up on the semantics of "x is like y" without ever considering the comparison being made: you know it's pointless to get in deeper with them in general, and women are notoriously bad with analogies in my observations When women said men are like dogs, most men actually played along with the analogy and tried to improve... but it was futile, because women like dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:51 AM
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I have never heard that before. Touché
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:46 AM
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In that circumstance, I usually only initiate hugs with women I think might really enjoy a good hug. I'm kind of selective with displays of affection, and I think most men are too. Either they like you and suspect you might like them, or they think you really need a hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:39 AM
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Was it at a social event? and were they drinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:34 AM
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It generally means the guy wants her more than she wants him, and good luck recovering from her seeing the man as below her - that's the ick here. Womanizers put in some effort up-front, and then they just let the women chase... quite relentlessly, as you might observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:30 AM
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Are you hugsy person with other people (especially ladies)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:23 AM
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Lol. If it's AI for a person to know the right buzzwords when they're being gaslit into always being the problem and having to apologize for it just to keep a toxic but convenient relationship going, we are so fucked as a species. I also see several bathroom-stall tatts and egregious nails, so I'm very sure she's the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:19 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unDNNDQfj3A It's kind of sad that the only "proper way" to discipline a brat these days is to basically out-tease him. I'm not saying physical discipline is the answer, but it's tough to put misbehaved kids in their place without being such a master manipulator - to where the kid doesn't even realize abuse is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:17 AM
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Logic and reason isn't their strong suit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:10 PM
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Looks like a gender-swap. What are you trying to prove OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:26 PM
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So actively following women's requests is passive? Because last I heard "WoMeN dOn'T wAnT tO bE aPpRoAcHeD aT tHe GrOcErY sToRe!1"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:45 AM
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You're talking about cluster Bs. They have issues with setting boundaries, and consequently think nobody else should have boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:57 PM
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dangerously based
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:55 PM
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Something something financial abuse. It's empowering to whore yourself out to many men for money, but dehumanizing to rely on one man for financial assistance without whoring oneself out - only acceptable if it's a sugar-daddy situation. In other words, relying on men for money is only acceptable if a woman is whoring herself out to said men. I've tried to make sense of it, but at this point I just have to chalk it it down as: modern feminists are so high on their own farts that they think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:51 PM
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I like a sports car analogy here, because like sports cars: they will spend way more time in the shop being maintained (and burning a hole in your wallet) than on the road. Beyond this, they are probably not all that practical in terms of a partner; just like a sports car is not practical for really anything other than looking good and going fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:58 PM
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This. The red pill is basically that most guys can take actionable steps to go from a beta to alpha. At it's core it is just a new understanding of attraction that more accurately reflects reality, and one can see there are rules of engagement for the "game" that is female attraction. By either not knowing, or misinterpreting, the rules, a guy will be constantly penalized in his journey to finding women who are attracted to him. The whole "women owe me sex" camp is basically men who are recently…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:44 PM
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This. To me he looks the most like how you would expect superman to look. Handsome yet boyish, and looks a bit disconnected and cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:35 PM
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Definitely captured the prettyboy aspect of superman just right - gives that sense of boyish and disconnected from the adult world that you might expect from a literal alien. Kristin Kreuk was one of my first on-screen crushes if I'm recalling correctly. Damn, that show was casted well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:33 PM
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This. Your lower body and core generate the majority of your power in almost any explosive movement like throwing (a football, a punch, etc.) or swinging (a bat, a club, etc.) movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:26 PM
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"The only explanation is mental illness!1" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:44 PM
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What's with Slavic whores and getting the worst possible lip injections?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:13 PM
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It's not a gendered thing. Shitty people do shitty things. What are you even trying to get at?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:09 PM
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Women can be just as or more deceptive to get what they want. It's a two way street. People can be shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:57 PM
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Agreed. I get checked out a lot when I'm driving around in a piece of shit car. It's all about looks, as always. An ugly guy behind the wheel of a top of the line car will get less interest than an attractive guy behind the wheel of a rusty old hunk of junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:53 PM
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Because it's a hobby that women largely aren't interested in (and might even find downright gross), and it would mean he will probably spend the odd Saturday alone or with buddies on the water having a great time without her. Women hate when a men have things they really enjoy that they can do without them. 'His time' should be 'their time,' and women put a lot of effort into curbing a man so he gives up hobbies that don't include her. All the "muh trumper" and "muh republican" talk is pure bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:49 PM
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This is a very weird dichotomy, and I don't think you can even suggest there is anything but a double standard here. For one, if a guy isn't in the mood; he won't be sufficiently hard for her to even be able to get off. Toys? Sure, but even then; the guy has to put on a good performance over a long period. It's probably better for the woman to just get herself off. Now, guys on the other hand... 10 mins tops and he's your slave for the next week. TLDR stop bitching about duty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:53 AM
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In my observations, most OPs start because someone got so triggered by a specific comment or point that they have to create a post that is basically a bat-signal for people who may also disagree with the comment that was triggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:07 PM
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suppository with no lube
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:42 PM
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It's this. When you first realize you've been lied to (especially by specific women), it feels like betrayal and is very shocking to the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:41 PM
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This is similar to the conclusions one could generate from hookup vs husband material threads. Basically, husband guy is also hookup guy. If he doesn't start as hookup guy (ie: chad), he's just betabux and a dead bedroom is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:18 PM
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No. Some rules apply, especially 1 and 2; but it's fairly laid back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:39 AM
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Women who only want to hook up, and are only good for hooking up? Sure. But she ain't meeting my momma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:31 AM
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Unless you're rocking a greek god physique, the gym mirror selfie will ick way more women than it attracts. Even chad will lose out on matches by doing this. Now a beach volleyball action shot taken by someone who knows how to use a camera or phone camera well? That's going to clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:21 AM
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Lots of photographers are good at what they do, and a good photo is worth infinitely more than the blurry, poorly exposed photo someone took on their phone; or god-forbid: a selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:10 AM
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She often posts with this vitriolic and holier than thou attitude that you generally only see from incels and radfems. No real attempt to use this sub for it's purpose (to question what you believe by engaging in sex/gender debates)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:53 AM
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I love how the comment section devolves into "women are discouraged from going into STEM." Huh? Despite there being every effort encouraging more women to go into these fields, people will deny that and say women are being gatekept out of STEM. They're gatekeeping themselves out of it... It's partially because these jobs are "nerdy," and very few women have nerdy interests... not to mention women gatekeep each other from embracing a nerdy side... Another part is that these jobs are often less so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:44 AM
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I know exactly what you mean and have seen it first hand in corporate. Some people get way too far just based on seniority and/or DEI, and that puts them in roles they just aren't mentally built or prepared for. I remember reading something about how lots of people get debilitatingly burned out by accepting promotions they just aren't ready (and maybe never will be ready) for, and I think this explains why men (despite all handicaps they face in the white collar workplace) still come out ahead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:20 AM
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Nothing wrong with a cheap old car if you keep it clean and maintained. I'd rather live in a good neighborhood and drive a cheap car than rent in a shit neighborhood and drive a hellcat on credit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:14 AM
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This is far from the sub for this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I fucking hate rap music. Not only does it normalize degenerate thug-life behavior, but it also normalized ripping off songs (sampling); so now we're stuck in this hell of hearing well loved songs by talented artists being stolen and ruined by talentless hacks. Thankfully that Anxiety song seems to be somewhat of a turning point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:11 AM
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Wine festival should have some babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:23 AM
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This is a memo that takes many men a divorce or two to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:59 PM
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him: "I just watched the first episode of this show" you: "Let me go ahead and give you a major spoiler"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:52 PM
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Do you think Bezos new wife lets him decide what plastic surgery she gets? In other words, is she a build-a-bimbo?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:47 PM
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A few years back, there was a running joke was that soldiers in the US military eat crayons So implying someone wants to eat crayons is like calling them retarded or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:45 PM
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I'm working out a paracetamol vs heroin analogy that explains this. Casual sex, like any hedonistic pursuit is all about endorphins and dopamine. If the guy is highly attractive and great in bed, it's like pure, uncut heroin. Fireworks. Unadulterated, feral lust. If you can't see where I'm going with this, hookup guy is like heroin - the rush, the peak... very intense from what I've heard... everything about it is unlike anything a person has felt, or will feel again. Meanwhile, husband guy is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:25 PM
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Right, so she is eager for intimacy with a guy she never plans to see again but the guy she wants to see again for the foreseeable future has to jump through a bunch of hoops to get that same intimacy. Can you not see the problem? (stupid question honestly... of course you can't)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:59 PM
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I think it happens a concerning amount, but women will never admit to this. More often than not, I think these situations come out of scenarios where a woman wants a relationship with a stud but only gets a situationship (fwb) - even though the relationship was never defined, she will never be able to love the settle-guy like she did the guy she couldn't lock down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:46 PM
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It's hilarious how some women think being easy for the hookup guy and hard for the relationship guy is a strategy that won't result in the least self-respecting partner possible. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:56 PM
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If she treats a drunken hookup guy better than the guy who is willing to commit, the commitment guy has to totally lack self-respect to not just walk away. I don't care how young and dumb she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:47 PM
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It's insecurity to want the same (or better) treatment as the guys before you? It's actually basic self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:41 PM
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Is that dust2?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:48 PM
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Women don't really approach in the traditional sense. They might make a man's job of approaching easier by standing close to him and being passively receptive, but they don't ever really break the ice because they don't have to take that risk. The exception is drunk women... They will be aggressively forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:09 PM
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Women are like pokemon. You wear them down then throw your balls at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:07 PM
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Very good point. Women are fake nice to each other all the time, so some wrongfully assume a guy being kind is some fake thing - especially now that niceguy(tm) is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:03 PM
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The red pill doesn't tell anyone to do anything. For the third and final time - it's not prescriptive Grifters (many of them are ex-PUA guys) claiming to be red pilled tell people to do those things. Those grifters are prescribing manipulation to their lackeys. Hold them accountable. The red pill might have some explanation for why dread game or negging works, but it doesn't tell one to do it. What I'm saying is that you can be red pilled without being a manipulative prick who preys on women's e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:48 PM
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...but it's not prescriptive. It's a way of seeing things. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. A way of seeing things isn't represented by PUA refugees and grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:43 AM
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When you're getting flak, you're right over the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:36 PM
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Women like what they're used to, and for many that starts with this image created by their father. eg. if she's a farm/small town girl, her father is probably a farmer or blue collar guy; so she'll like guys that remind her of her father. In your case, I'm guessing you came from a more suburban ubringing; so those women are familiar with a softer around the edges suburban man. There's also a cultural aspect where the culture roughly shapes the type of man her father is, so people from the south …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:32 PM
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Bingo. They love to turn women's fetishes into "men bad." Violent choking is actually pretty uncommon in porn. Sensual choking (just a light grip) isn't even common really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:00 PM
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Isn't violent choking a very common theme in popular smut targeted towards women? To see it in porn, you have to dive pretty deep down the rabbit hole. In other words: Men don't fetishize on choking women, but women absolutely fetishize being choked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:59 PM
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Huh? Go back to your feminist book club, bucko
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:05 PM
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IDK, you're looking at red pill as if it's prescriptive - like lots of people do. If you look at it as more of a descriptive, unfiltered view of female nature where the individual can do with that information as they see fit, it's not as evil as people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:46 PM
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The first step is being aware that these tests do happen. It's easier to react appropriately when you know what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:47 AM
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Women have a high risk for producing children with birth defects at advanced maternal ages because the eggs are literally as old as these women are. The male sperm is weeks old at most, and the human male body has ways to expel (wet dreams) or recycle (autophagy) old sperm. It makes no evolutionary sense for the body to produce a lower quality sperm. If nature didn't want men to have kids past a certain age because survival of the offspring is lessened, men would go through manopause and experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:04 PM
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I simply stated that any cultural zeitgeist is generally based around central talking points that repeatedly come up. Do you have a problem with feminists constantly talking about the patriarchy, the pay gap, etc? If not, you shouldn't have a problem with this subreddit centralizing on a few major topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:09 PM
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Did I say that? Maybe you should unsubscribe... this place isn't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:50 PM
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You say that because it sounds good in your head, but I've seen guys have to cover up or dress down when out in public with their comparatively ugly girlfriends. They aren't covering up to hide their identity... they're covering up to avoid attention that will make their girlfriend insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:49 PM
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But he has no control over how insecure the woman will get when she sees how desired he is. I feel sorry for guys who date so far down that it's just a constant battle with the woman's insecurity of being comparatively ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:45 PM
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Something tells me a really attractive woman wouldn't be ride-sharing with a complete random unless she can opt for a woman only carpool. What’s your response? Where's the hidden camera?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:41 PM
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Feminism recycles the same points over and over again, where the important topics only change with each wave. It's almost like... like... some topics are more important than others, and hence... perhaps... just perhaps... they deserve more discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:39 PM
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Isn't there a statistic where like 1 in 6 men who request paternity tests uncover that the child really isn't theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:36 PM
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Could be a test to determine if he has options (ie: indifferent to the ghosting) or not (reactive to the hot/cold treatment)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:57 PM
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"he's a nazi, but I guess I'll have sex with him a few more times so he doesn't murder me teehee" women...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:50 PM
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Therefore only women have a biological clock And many of them make the men who will be good husbands and fathers wait until time is running out, so I really don't get how this is a problem men should really be concerned with. When my sperm was "healthiest" and I would have liked to be working towards a family, do you know what the women my age were doing? Having their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:41 PM
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No. I think the media avoids talking about the more important facets of the issue and hyper-focuses on average # of friends completely ignoring that men keep smaller, tighter-knit social groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 02:16 PM
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Female nature also tends to act without thought of the consequences, and sometimes it's so obtusely subconscious that they don't even realize the malice until the damage is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:53 AM
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I've never seen that kind of corn. Is it available on cornhub?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:47 AM
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28-30 year old women would strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:46 AM
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Men have much more minimal social needs and less pressure to be social, so they often choose to be alone or keep with a small group of very close friends - whereas women will hang out and keep in touch with people they hate (frenemies) just to fill their social/emotional needs. That is to say, our socialization isn't a means to an end like it is for women - it's an end in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:45 AM
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This is why I've just kind of given up on dating women my age. It's not a matter of IF she goes running back to that guy, but WHEN
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:42 PM
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<image> It didn't change. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:28 PM
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Funny is a difficult one: women want a man that makes her laugh, but if he's good looking and makes her comfortable she will find his dumb jokes funny, so he doesn't really need to be naturally funny. This is a concept that isn't talked about enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:06 PM
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A woman's innate reproductive strategy is to secure the sperm of the most dominant male, a man's strategy is to spread his sperm far and wide. Biology and evoloutionary psychology that a toddler could understand is at odds with your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:33 PM
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I'd have to disagree. Women judge men based on various characteristics and accomplishments, and all of these things tend to have a higher priority than the guy's personality. That is to say, if you can meet a woman's high priority wants; she will probably give your sub-stellar personality a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:40 PM
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It's projection. Women will fuck criminals and lowlifes if the guy is sufficiently attractive, and this behavior isn't just limited to lowlife women. Most of what women say about men is projection. They say some men aren't successful with women because they "need to take a shower" or "need to dress/groom better," which is ironic because women will notoriously shower as little as possible (instead they take hoe-baths) and show up to university lectures, work, etc. in PJs or sweats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:31 PM
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There's something terribly unsettling about the psychopath smile
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:03 PM
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That's the core of AF/BB. Women will pretend to be attracted to men they feel ZERO lust for because they tick a lot of boxes for longer term goals, such as providing a specific lifestyle. Is there anything wrong with this? only if the guy realizes it's not true love. And how many guys are currently in an arrangement where they think a woman is actually highly attracted to them? It's not magic. It's pure calculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:29 AM
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So you're saying gen x and millennials lower the divorce rate? because I can almost assure you based on observation that this isn't the case. Perhaps I just live in a conservative area, but it seems like most of the boomers I know are still together; and I think that's because they were raised on the principle of "til death do us part". They worked through problems and it made their relationships stronger, rather than leaving at the first possible chance in search of something better. Younger bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:27 PM
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Hangups, insecurities, or otherwise with regards to bad treatment that was tolerated during previous relationships or flings. If Chad made her feel like a shit human-being but she tolerated it because she liked him so much, that's an almost irredeemable amount of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 07:27 PM
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Did you really just link a divorce law corporation's website as a source for a divorce statistic? lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:44 PM
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The divorce rate, with regards to the statistical 50% we often see thrown around, is actually low because it includes older generations with lasting marriages that actually took the whole "til death do us part" thing seriously. It's also worth noting that the boomers are a very large demographic, since they were born in a period where having 4-5 kids was the norm. I'd say the divorce rate is probably 65-70% if you don't include boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:42 PM
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This reminds me of something I've been thinking about lately. When women (especially here) describe what they're attracted to, they're actually just telling you things they would find appealing to have in a best-friend. The pills have helped men understand that women have a non-rational attraction towards looks and athleticism (physical dominance), hence why the red pill suggests improving looks and hitting the gym consistently; and yet women will expend so much energy denying that they are attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:13 PM
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Exactly. They'll argue with you until the cows come home about why they shouldn't be the ones to approach, and yet by not approaching they are only left with the advances from rudeboys that ignore the whole "approaching is harassment and disrespect" indoctrination most decent men live by.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:59 PM
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Bingo. Lots of the women who keep falling into abusive relationships or situationships are essentially doing so because they are waiting for aggressive guys (who don't give a fuck if they harass someone) to approach them, when they could approach betas (who aren't approaching for obvious reasons) who would treat them like queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:42 PM
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Nah, Maggie closed the mines. You should have posted a picture of Stalin. Send leech-NEETs to the work camps or mental asylums.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:34 PM
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Stopped reading at emotional labor
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:54 PM
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Garbage people doing garbage things. Shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:20 PM
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Tucking your shirt in as a young to middle-aged man is non-conformist. Not having tattoos is the new punk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:20 PM
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Sympathy isn't deserved by those those that endanger themselves and especially others. No clue what empathy has to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:09 PM
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The ironic part about proud NEETs is that they will be in the first wave of draftees shipped off to fight in a non-winnable foreign war.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:01 PM
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No, because it's entirely situational. There's no one size fits all approach with regards to what the right thing to say is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:57 PM
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You're confusing red pill with black pill. Red pill posits that women like certain things, and a man can actively improve said things to become more successful. Black pill is the whole "it's over" from birth mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:13 AM
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Women are avoidant of hypotheticals too. Propose one and watch her get hung up on semantics and turn it into a completely different argument without actually responding to the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:01 AM
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Reddit is actually a hive of white knights and simps. Outside of a select group of subreddits, you will get dogpiled for even just a slight criticism of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:12 PM
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In this day and age, being a sole provider usually means bankrolling a lazy mooch of a person. Not saying there aren't great SAHM that are grateful that their husbands provide so they can focus on childrearing, but there is a concerning number of opportunistic women that are jumping on the SAHM bandwagon because it means being spoiled by a man and not having to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:03 PM
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Bingo. I think the average age where a man has his first child is at least 30, and very little of this is his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:52 PM
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How can a man grow up faster when he faces unnecessary hurdles in regards to some major adult milestones so women can get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:47 PM
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I think an extended period of monk mode in your late 20s and early 30s is acceptable if you want nothing to do with "age appropriate" women that are becoming aggressive and opportunistic about marriage and babies - some people call this the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:20 PM
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You do realize most mgtows are men with 2 or 3 divorces or bad relationships (usually having suffered major betrayal [eg. cheating] each time) behind them that are tired of the bullshit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:11 PM
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If a guy can't overcome a specific woman's looks threshold, she won't find him attractive. The cat is out of the bag with regards to that, and I'm tired of people (mostly women) trying to pretend this isn't the case; and the internet really helped men all get on the same page about how important looks are. With that said, there are things that can make him appealing (keyword) for a relationship, and a woman might date a guy she doesn't find attractive if he has enough other appealing qualities; …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:04 PM
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IDK, the sentiment actually makes sense. Imagine you have a choice: She is perfect for you in terms of looks, age, etc... would you prefer she's some really immature, unconfident idiot, or someone who actually carries themselves like an intelligent, capable adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:40 AM
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When kids are involved, wouldn't you say it's pretty selfish and short-sighted?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:36 AM
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Unless he already has kids of his own or is infertile, this move is always made out of desperation. No self respecting guy would prefer to raise even one of another man's kids if the option is there of having his own family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:35 AM
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I mean, nobody is perfect. And this is the exact knowledge that many people are lacking. Prince Charming/Mr. Right is essentially the embodiment of perfect, and most single women are gunning for him; though men also seek perfection to the degree where it is partly responsible for their shortcomings in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:00 PM
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80/20 confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:44 AM
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AF/BB cuts the fat by positing that most men are a no in terms of the looks/presence/confidence threshold, but some of those men can absolutely become a yes with effort over time by playing to their strengths and improving weaknesses. The most important thing is attraction. If she isn't hot for you, it doesn't matter if you check every other box; she will eventually lose interest (and respect if you fail the shit test) once a guy she is actually physically attracted to comes into the picture. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:42 AM
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If she has reasons for being in the specific field of business she's studying, sure. If she's going with the flow and just taking general business classes and doesn't know what she wants to do but knows a business degree is a quick path to a 100k salary, it's a bit of a yellow flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:40 AM
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I hate to correct such stunning probabilistic reasoning, but you wasted your time and energy by misinterpreting the premise. 1 out of every 40 guaranteed is different from a 1 in 40 chance. It means that by the 40th man she has a 100% chance of having found Mr Right. But let's say she runs into Mr Right within the first 5 men, will the Husband Store dilemma kick in? In case you don't know the Husband Store meme, I highly recommend looking it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:29 AM
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No. Skipping 10 steps to escalate right to the gun pull is ghetto-tier behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:56 PM
2

You just know some frothing at the mouth anti-trumper drew that, because they picked a caricaturesque version of asmongold as their subject; just removed the beard as to give plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:14 PM
3

When you quit alcohol or a drug and need a drastic change of lifestyle, one of the standards is to go to meetings and talk about said addiction. The same is the case here. It's cathartic to remind yourself of what you quit, and it helps to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:38 PM
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Just because I make unserious posts doesn't invalidate everything I say. Should I make a new account to satisfy your desires? He wasn't talking about you. We were talking about the author of the thread that inspired you to create this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:30 PM
2

The other thread, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:26 PM
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Is there a full moon?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:21 PM
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I never once said it was a direct cause. My stance, which you've failed to comprehend, is that loss of monogamy as a central aspect of the culture is a symptom of bigger problems related to societal decay, and history has various examples of this. Polygamous nomadic cultures being able to conquer and flourish has no bearing on the argument I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:12 PM
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IDK, the gold-diggers that are robbing these men blind in divorce don't seem to suffer as much as they should; but they're treating the relationship as transactional too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:58 PM
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This thread spawned from another thread that posited that transition away from monogamy was a good thing. My take (which was basically what inspired OP to make this thread) was that transitioning from monogamy has historically never been a good sign. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1lly8kv/the_everyone_gets_a_wife_experiment_lasted_about/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:52 PM
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It doesn't kill civilizations, but transition to polygamy from monogamy has historically never been a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:18 PM
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There's nothing but bad examples thrown around. The Mongols, Turks, and the Islamic Caliphates? If I'm not mistaken, those were warrior cultures that failed because they lost the warrior aspect of their culture due to expansion and the subsequent cultural appropriation of the societies they conquered. That is to say that the loss of important aspects of the culture is a marker for societal decay, which actually supports the argument I'm making - which is that the death of monogamy is a sign of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:06 PM
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Why would we date women we aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:19 PM
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Classic "nuh-uh." Can you explain why I'm "just plain wrong?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:18 PM
4

Bingo. It was the norm in any western society that reached a state of prosperity. Prosperity then brought about progressive values which led to the death of monogamy, which led to the decay of said societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:11 PM
4

You can actually provide a counter-argument instead of these dismissive retorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:08 PM
3

Exactly. Do you know what those empires had in common? Prosperity brought about progressivism, which killed monogamy. In other words, no empire has survived after transitioning to non-monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:55 PM
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Various now-defunct empires would disagree with you that this is a positive change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:30 PM
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Most of your points are centred in selfishness - ie: losing the luxuries of marriage. Ergo, you basically prove the point many men have that men have almost nothing to gain from getting married, while women have a lot to gain. If you don't want to lose those luxuries, you have to put up with the rocky patches that come with marriage. The problem today is that so many women will just bail when a major relationship issue crops up, rather than work through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:03 PM
1

At a bar or club, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:39 PM
9

Newsflash: most women are abysmal at entertaining hypothetical scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:29 PM
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Never forget: publicity and PR are king
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:05 AM
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Latest instalment of outrage porn. Just like the countless videos of women smashing their man's video game console.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:51 AM
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If you can choose between two or more outcomes, you aren't the victim if what you chose doesn't work out or ends up hurting you. You're experiencing what is called a trade-off. Red pillers say women are terrible with accountability because women would rather play victim over something that they chose rather than to self-reflect and understand that the trade-off of stability and loyalty for chaos and drama was stupid. This thread further proves what the red pill says because you have so many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:12 PM
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Woah now. That's like telling a fish to ride a bike, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:49 PM
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As in the writer is amateur at best? or the actual content is just terrible and/or half-assed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:33 AM
2

Not the best country to compare against the west when it comes to safety... but my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:31 AM
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I really don't think that happens to any widespread degree. If people are dying working for a guy because he has no safety standards and doesn't provide any safety gear, other people won't try to work for said guy. Reputation is impacted by safety, or lack there of. Don't believe me? Watch how fast a mining stock tanks when one of their mines collapses and somebody dies. There are all these regulations and people still get hurt. No amount of red tape will stop this. Some jobs are fucking dangero…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:02 AM
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Men work longer hours and a lot of men work physically grueling jobs and/or dangerous jobs. I think a lot of occupations need far better safety standards and working environment or better control of these things. To live up to my Devil's Advocate flair: Boys will be boys. You could have the strictest safety standards in the bloody world, and dumb guys in these jobs will still find ways to get hurt... because boys will be boys. The thing about guys that work these jobs is: THEY LIKE DANGER. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:48 AM
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What % of young women are on birth control? I think a lot of women get on birth control for off-label "reasons" because then they can get raw-dogged without having to tell people they're using it so they can get raw-dogged. Don't ask me why I think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:38 AM
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Hoping this gets acknowledged: video games are a dopaminergic trap for lots of young men They're the first step on the hedonic treadmill. EDIT: u/Nard_Bard Your experience is similar to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:33 AM
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No, alphafux can be unemployed trailer trash and he'll still get sex from women who will eventually go on to marry the betabux that are in their socioeconomic class. AF/BB isn't a class question. It's a timing and life priorities question with a slight peppering of daddy-issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:27 AM
3

This gives off “she was asking for it” vibes. Notice how you didn't say I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:21 AM
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Why did Fifty Shades of Grey get so popular? Do women actually fantasize about billionare, bdsm chads stalking them at their part-time job? or was it just phenomenal publicity. If you think it was publicity, what do you think of the predictive programming of it? Did FSoG soften women up to hot, rich, sadists?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:16 AM
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It's not about want, but understanding. Men don't want to dominate women just because... they usually want it because it is actually women that seem to subconsciously desire dominant (sometimes aggressively so) men. Hello? Have you even been paying attention to the smutpocalypse???
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:09 AM
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I wouldn't fuck with a game that is so interactive that it needs me to talk to it, but I'm not a gamer either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:19 AM
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You can't negotiate attraction with women that have already had a taste of chad. It's like getting an intravenous drug user to go back to snorting or smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:10 AM
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Is offending a woman disrespectful? Were most men raised on the idea that they need to respect women? Perhaps these questions might help you understand the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:13 PM
2

Perhaps the egregiously shameless slut act is played out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:08 PM
1

Nah, plenty of white knights out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:29 PM
1

But every time men here suggest they wish women would lower their standards for looks, you hear "Why would I date someone I'm not attracted to?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:10 PM
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I think the same logic lies behind ghosting... Doesn't want to hurt the guy, but actually hurts him more than a polite rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:46 PM
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She also brings up a husband quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:44 PM
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Women also get sympathy when they have a type like abusive assholes or criminals and keep picking shitty people over and over again, but men are told they have a type and are stupid after only one bad woman. In other words: if a man has his life ruined by a BPD nutjob, he is typically seen to be deserving of it because he "likes psycho bitches." I think a lot of this is mostly just women projecting their preferences for bad people onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:42 PM
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Most men don't work out either, but many of the ones that do will really rub it in your face. Same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:15 AM
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Seems like blackpill bait. It's called a trade-off. If she wants an extremely tall guy as a top priority, she'll generally not need him to also be extremely handsome - just "attractive enough." And vice versa with "tall enough" if she wants a pretty face. If a woman has a choice between a good looking guy who is 5'7 and an equally good looking guy that is 6', is she choosing the shorter guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:52 PM
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But if they're just a stranger in a gym, why would I want to like them unless they were attractive? Women pull the exact same shit and don't have any desire to make friends with random ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:04 PM
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Knowing the word senpai, how to use it, and using it in a internet shouting match... I now understand what an ick feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:36 PM
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Why would I pursue someone I'm not attracted to? ... see what I did there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:31 PM
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In a world of well behaved, conflict avoidant men, the unhinged bad boys stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:39 PM
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Immature women will always resort to shame or character attacks to shake you from your point. They don't need to argue the points if they can make you abandon yours to defend your character or defend against such infantile aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:59 PM
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Exactly. It's hard to determine what exactly "be more emotional" means in the context of what women want men to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:33 AM
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I'm just poking at the holes in your statement as it relates back to women on average. Some women will get the ick if a guy thinks a puppy is cute, but you're evolved and don't. The fine line for every woman is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:27 AM
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I think we're kind of swaying from one extreme to another without acknowledging the fine line every woman has where a given emotional display might run the risk of being too much. I thought icks were dumb at first, but now that I've had time to conceptualize them they make ontological sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:10 AM
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cultivate a relationship with your parents and parents in law... plenty of opportunities to get time off, because they absolutely want to spend time with their grandkids an appreciate and loving husband who is working just as hard at his career as you are at raising the kids...? hello??? The promotion is having the satisfaction of raising some awesome kids whom you drive to follow their passions and achieve cool things Once the kids are all in school, most provider husbands won't care if you stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:52 AM
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unmanaged mental illness That's mostly hyperbole. Like, a guy can shed a tear during a movie without having an unmanaged mental illness; but a woman who isn't ready to see that will usually respond pretty negatively. It's where the line is drawn that is questionable and worth debate, not the extremes. If a guy found a pup or kitten cute and expressed it, how would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:46 AM
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She was trying to call me autistic while tiptoeing around rule 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:43 AM
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Niche is right. Not many struggling women out there, and you have to target even smaller parts of the already small market for women's dating advice to carve out said niche; so there's no money or incentive. Women don't struggle to get, they struggle to vet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:04 PM
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You can't trust what women say, which is especially true on the internet. In my 30s, I'm getting way more attention from college age women than I did at any point in my 20s. Women think they get more attractive as they age because they actually do find men more attractive with some age and maturity, but around here they will claim men get ugly as they get older. It's solipsistic thinking, which you often see from women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:27 PM
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The rebel, so long as he looks like a movie star, gets the pass. It's the lower percentiles of men that get shunned if they don't toe the line. AF/BB... pretty sure we've been over this many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:10 AM
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It would be a monumental ick if she noticed he's wearing makeup to hide a blemish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:00 PM
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It was 100% implied by how you equated two entirely unrelated things. A better comparison would be: the chad-chasing fatty is akin to the betabux that gets played and divorced because he was the settle-option. Both parties are getting played/deceived by opportunistic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:32 PM
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Disagree. Men watching porn isn't making fatties chase chad. Fatties chasing chad is part of what is making men check out of dating and relationships and resort to porn to meet their sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:19 PM
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Just want to make sure I know what kind of evidence you're looking for. I'm not looking for evidence. Just want to know what sort of thought process is going on behind such a claim. I get what you mean by dating without purpose. That was largely how I was dating in my 20s, but a lot of that was because it seemed like women were also dating without purpose. When I started dating with purpose in my later 20s, it seemed like women were even flakier than when I was dating without purpose. IDK.. it j…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:14 PM
1

"trump voter - no sex offender and gigolo - maybe" Huh? Identity politics has broken you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:03 PM
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It's only a problem when men don't get experienced in dating, in mid and high school Can you back this claim up? I know various people who had experience with dating and relationships in high school and struggled in college and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:40 PM
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They might be dating in high-school, but watch how things change when they move from the small pond to the proverbial stormy ocean that is adult dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:45 PM
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Sweet summer child. Give it 5-10 years and watch how priorities change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:18 AM
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You can improve your face if you get lean and mean. A soft gamer face on a doughy sedentary body isn't turning any bitches on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:47 AM
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Have you even tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:13 AM
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The person that downvoted me has herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:26 AM
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That's something a girl who just got a herpes diagnosis does... good move, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:01 AM
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I disagree with you on lots of things, but we're on the same page here. How is a kid supposed to navigate the relationship world when their exposure is that relationships are adversarial? My parent's divorce wasn't hard on me, but having no blueprint for love was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:12 AM
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The problem with being passive or bashful is that the women that will approach are often brash or overly masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:21 PM
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It's mostly reporting error I think. What she says: "Oh, my decent enough looking brother tried and couldn't get matches, so I tried for him and also got zero luck." The reality being: her brother is average at best, she just doesn't want to be the asshole despite becoming neurotically involved in her brother's singledom for the clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:59 AM
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If the guy has good enough pictures, physique, fashion, etc., I think women could overcome the barrier to be able to LARP as a guy and successfully do some OLD game and banter; but thats a big if. I suspect the guys who need or want women to do this for them are probably not lookers, but do remember: unless she's an extremely honest person, the average woman will say her bridge-troll brother is "decent looking" to avoid the truth and potentially seeming like an asshole. And don't put it past shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:55 AM
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It's all about forgetting Chad... or rather, replacing him with a guy who's going to be equally damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:15 AM
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The ones that give us that warm fuzzy feeling. The woman who can elicit that kind of response can basically do no wrong, because men are in some innate way very protective towards women they love - and that involves trying not to upset her by doing something like saying no or don't. I think part of the allure of bad boys and thugs is that these men can and will put women in their place - whether that's verbally, emotionally, or sometimes (very unfortunately) physically. My most recent stance is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:17 PM
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I agree. At the time it bruised my ego, but now I see it as a blessing in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:56 PM
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So I should have kept my anecdote to myself because "women have it worse?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:28 PM
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you have the audacity to expect sympathy You're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:15 PM
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Who asked you? For every one Q4M, there are probably twenty Q4Ws. Can't you just let us have one thread without interjecting with your "WhAt AbOuT wOmEn?!1" comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:58 PM
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I've known guys who did all the cooking in relationships, and all of them resented how their girlfriends didn't cook even though the guys really enjoyed cooking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:51 PM
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It's kind of sad he hasn't told you yet and you guys are engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:44 PM
1

Better than 80 for this <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:36 PM
3

Women love to downplay how common this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:32 PM
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Not to downplay your story, but in these "bumped into eachother" stories there is usually very deliberate action on one side. That is to say the "bump" isn't coincidental at all, as it was pre-meditated by one or both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:21 PM
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Most guys will call bullshit on this. Women rarely ditch one guy for another unless it's blatantly obvious that the replacement relationship is guaranteed, and usually that's not the case if the two haven't even exchanged words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:17 PM
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in hopes they get 'railed in the sunshine' Public sex can get a person in the sex offender registry. Women are cooked. Don't fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:45 PM
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She said yes, and I thought we had a nice date; she seemed very eager about a second date... but then... she proceeded to ghost me hard as soon as the guy who wasn't giving her the time of day decided to actually try because he had competition. I think they'll be perfect for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:37 PM
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And nobody warns them that it's hard to get off the carousel in time once they get on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:34 PM
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There was a point in time in the middle of that period where a big mac was a hell of a lot more than 5.99. People were defending McD's saying shit like people will spend that much because of the brand... in other words: One doesn't go to McDonalds specifically to get a burger, they go to get McDonalds. Therefore McDonalds can charge whatever they want for the McD's experience, and people will pay for it. Obviously the model of charging people a premium just to eat McDonalds failed, because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:32 PM
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Example #361246347585 of how women will get everything they want and still somehow want more
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:08 PM
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Isn't she the one that put out two conflicting articles in the vein of "Men need to stop approaching and catcalling women just going about their day" & "I miss being approached and catcalled"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 06:55 PM
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woah, tmi
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:37 AM
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I used to have some attraction towards little firecracker type women... you know, the small aggressive types... Almost a dominant personality. Once you understand that a woman will only ever see an even more dominant man as attractive, they lose all their appeal. In other words: if she's small and aggressive, nice guys better think twice about them fake signals she's using to lure them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:35 AM
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C'est la vie. Apologize because the mob demands it so you don't get cancelled, but lose all the respect of your wife and go through a miserable divorce. Sad state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:22 PM
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All of those were before the peak of simpery. Much more recently, perhaps you remember: Josh Homme kicked the camera out of a photographers hands because she was using flash despite not being allowed to. He thought it was a badly placed piece of lighting equipment that was strobing in his eyes, but it was legitimately a professional camera with flash. It's the band's show, therefore their and the venues rules - and photographers with press passes need to respect these rules - one of which is NO …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:48 PM
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People with the take "Women who date bad boys often come from the same unstable environments" have ZERO proof of this. It's just another one of those things that sounds good and virtuous to please the in-group. I can almost guarantee you that most men have various observations from their life of women that actually had good, stable upbringings who still ran after a thug or drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:25 PM
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placing her life above his "Treat her like a celebrity and she'll treat you like a fan." Why aren't young men taught this and instead left to find out the hard way? It's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:20 PM
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Then you consider how hair pulling and choking are really common fetishes for women, and you see the bigger picture. Women seem to like aggression and losing control to a dominant man, and criminal types are the only way they can reliably get this in the modern age. Way too many guys out here giving a fuck about respecting women when there seems to be a positive inclination towards men that have the ability to disrespect and abuse them. It's a weird sort of paradox. Good is punished purely for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:10 PM
2

Because that's the day to day existence for many women - constantly one microaggression away from a theatrical meltdown worthy of an Oscar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:03 PM
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The presence of this scenario in reality TV, romcoms, online discourse, etc. And I'm pretty sure there is also lots of porn with this theme. It's not a nothing-burger, because there are various examples of popular media that is seemingly normalizing it to a degree. Plus, would male strippers even get work if not for hen-parties and stagettes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:56 PM
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Because men understand that it's a fools errand trying to get some random dude to change. What am I going to do? "You there! Stop! You need to change your abusive/criminal ways! Don't hurt m'lady!" It needs to be women holding these men accountable by not spreading their legs for them. Behaviour that is rewarded is repeated. Add to this that a lot nice guys get punished by women because nice is often perceived as weak, and women viciously test men they perceive as weak - punished behaviour is cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:26 PM
0

Points 1, 2, and 3 seem like anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:19 PM
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And let’s be real, the so-called “bad guys” aren’t out here announcing they’re criminals. They’re confident, charming, and know how to play the game. So that gives the women they seduce a pass to not have to properly vet a person before jumping into bed with him? Ludicrous thought, but it was you that suggested it really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:06 PM
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Easy for you to say, but the reality is that conventional dating advice suggests men should first be friends with a particular woman they're trying to date. That is to say the dating advice is to literally friendzone oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:04 PM
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Most women would if the guy checked the other boxes, and most men wouldn't even if she checked all boxes If you disagree, remember: guys only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:06 PM
0

You’re right my guy. Thanks, Captain Obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:00 PM
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I'm literally shaking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:52 PM
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I don't speak for men, but I will tell you that nobody's buying that women don't relax their standards if a guy is hot. You should seek a therapist for that terrible gas-lighting habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:47 PM
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Wow... thanks for giving me an anecdote about one or two women you know (that apparently have zero self respect), as to avoid the point, which is: women lower the bar for chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:44 PM
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Why would anyone date someone they’re not physically attracted to?? Because there are only so many hot, successful guys to go around, and every woman is gunning for them. Y'all did it to yourself ruining your sexual appetite by willingly being the temporary fleshlight of said guys, such that you don't see your equals as attractive (at least not physically).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:41 PM
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Only for you know who
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:37 PM
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So is the bar in hell for the meh guys? Or do they need to really wow you and do more than "like your company and not offend you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:35 PM
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No. Unreciprocated love and not knowing how to respond appropriately (IE: hanging around in the friendzone) is torture. With the boys, at least the love (no homo) is reciprocal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:27 PM
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I was talking about rules 6 & 8. What did you think I meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:24 PM
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The friendzone makes a guy feel more alone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:22 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic is happening in tandem with epidemic of male solidarity, and it's beautiful to see; perhaps it might even make "the elite" concerned; but that doesn't mean OP shouldn't take his meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:18 PM
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You forgot the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:20 PM
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The ride never ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:59 AM
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The guy probably got the results he did because he swiped for profiles of average but upstanding men looking for relationships but down on their luck because women are only swiping for absolute chads
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:16 PM
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My interpretation of it is that she prefers hot idiots. Manchild is her type. Lots of women prefer these men when there is no sense of urgency to settle into a relationship, and that's because there is too much expectation to actually be a responsible adult if in a relationship with another responsible adult. The song says a lot more about her than it does about men in a general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:33 PM
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Sure, chadasaurus female
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:41 AM
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College educated women are used to long term commitment, and most of em aren't marrying fuckhead deadbeats with zero potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:39 AM
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Nice gets the booby prize. The participation trophy route of sexual strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:28 AM
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Best to not consume it at all, but I totally get why people use it. The more financially lucrative the porn industry is (because of simps paying in), the more women will be attracted by the fast cash and consequential exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:31 AM
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I don't need to make up the idea that there is no shortage of women that are hung up on a guy who will probably never be replaced in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:53 AM
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She isn't a Mormon, and she hasn't even publicly declared any sort of stance on feminism either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:37 AM
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No, my brain has been rotted by reality. This isn't some pornsick delusion. The entire moral dilemma of Fifty Shades is that she is confused and simultaneously turned on as he exposes her to more and more dominant or sadistic acts. Did I mention HE STALKS HER? Why would women be so into a story like this, and why is most smut just packed with BDSM?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:27 AM
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Check out that itty bitty waist would
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:25 AM
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Not really. Most women will champion a woman doing whatever she needs to do to "slaaaaay queen," be it porn, prostitution/escorting, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:22 AM
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Because it's pretty ick (in ther words: un-chad-like) to pay for porn or sex unless the guy is also having lots of non-transactional sex as part of a brutal sex addiction. I once paid for a porn subscription... cancelled it for a full refund, because it just felt... pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 AM
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The irony is that a lot of staunch modern feminists in the streets will have the most internalized misogyny in the sheets. Please remember that Fifty Shades of Grey sold 150million+ copies, where a guy legit stalks a woman and turns her into his little submissive plaything, and yet: women ate that shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:14 AM
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Then you proceed to mash her face into the pillow during rough sex as she begs for you to call her increasingly degrading things - the duality of the fourth-wave feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:31 PM
2

Also bold to assume the dating and relationship crisis boils down to young people not partying. Yeah, young people partying means that Becky will just forget about that guy she is highly attracted to and occasionally meets for a quickie but can't lock down in a relationship. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:53 PM
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but if you do it all the time you get no credit So true. Act like her butler and she'll treat you like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:12 PM
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The even simpler answer is: Back when people having large families was the norm, it was because kids were an asset that could help on the farm or the family business and because women were full-time caregivers. Kids are now more of a liability and women need to work (a right they fought hard for).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:09 PM
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What's one of the things you associate with the red pill? Exercise. And there's a very good reason for that. Getting in shape (not necessarily a muscle freak, but look somewhat athletic or sportsmanlike) goes a long way for most guys. Getting that baby fat off of your face is essential to actually looking like a man, but a lot of men are in the camp where a soft face is holding them back several points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:21 AM
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Nice guy is kind of like a white knight... a guy who has made his entire life, especially his interaction with women, about being the upstanding guy that kills em with kindness and wins the favor of room with the pristine nature of his moral compass; and part of that is being the one to save the princess from danger. Where these guys fail is: they try to save the damsel far before she wants to be saved - as in these guys look and see the dirtbags a woman they like associates with, then proceed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 01:08 AM
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If that's how you're conditioned to view them, then whatever floats your boat. I think they take away, or distract, from natural beauty. Do you have any yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:02 AM
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Bingo. Some degree of selfishness is basically hard-coded into the genome of all species, because species without the trait went extinct. It's a doggy dog world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:57 PM
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Was amazed to see Pete Davidson is going through tattoo removal, since he was essentially the mainstream-ifier behind the trend of silly doodle tatts. Let's hope Post Malone and the others that followed Pete's lead take notes, as then I'm sure we'll stop seeing so many young women ruin their bodies with shitty tattoos. Then hopefully the sleeve, cleavage, and other loud-and-in-your-face tattoo trends stop or slow down Tattoo parlors = seething Tattoo removal tech companies and services = winning
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:52 PM
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Who were the previous two?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:45 PM
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That guy from the band is her brother, yo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:44 PM
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men are a hivemind too, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:36 PM
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Red Wing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:36 PM
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100%. Given the choice between a cheater and a non-cheater, ceteris paribus she will take the guy who she doesn't have to share. Given the choice between a high-value cheater and a lower value non-cheater, she'll share the cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:32 PM
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Simps are irredeemable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:27 PM
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"Generalizing based on gender is bad, but accept this TheScience approved generalization about men and rigid male gender roles as proof of my point!" ps: It is women enforcing such rigid gender roles for men, sweetheart. Remember, it's women that want men that outearn them; to know their way around a home-repair; to be physically dominant and protective... etc. pps: Men don't police other people's thoughts and beliefs (especially men) nearly as much as people like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:19 PM
0

Because women aren't asexual out of the gate. They usually become asexual once the guy has a contractual obligation to be with her (marriage/common-law) Women dangle sex, men dangle relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:05 PM
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Why? When a woman leaves a relationship or blows a relationship up because she isn't getting what she wants or needs, she is praised. When a guy leaves a relationship because his wants or needs aren't being met, he's an insecure manchild or whatever the flavor of the month shaming insult is at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:03 PM
0

Women also cling to attractive guys that treat them like shit. Words are hollow when actions are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:39 PM
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I've given you a conclusion based on a collection of datasets that most people here know about. If you want to go deep-diving for additional data that confirms or denies what I have said, go for it; but you're going to have a very hard time debunking hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:37 PM
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Women saying shit they think sounds good and virtuous? Get your popcorn ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:27 PM
2

If one app leaked data, it could be dismissed as anomalous or inconclusive; but when all apps produce similar datasets, it's a given. Most dating app data points to a pareto distribution. Whether the selection criteria is looks, height, or income, 20% (or less) of men are getting 80% (or more) of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:22 PM
1

What you can do is tell people the "right" mentality or advice, not the wrong one, and explain to them why what you say is true. I've tried that. Arguments with logic and reason are entirely lost on women, and blue-pillers aren't much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:25 PM
1

People dismiss red-pill related empirical data all the time. Just look how women and blue-pillers completely avoid any discussion around the statistics we've seen come out of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:23 PM
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We're not the ones you need to convince not to worry or get any funny ideas about this new friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:13 PM
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"Just fuck my shit up, doc" - the average woman during a plastic surgery consultation probably
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:10 PM
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Women often think in black and white when it comes to attraction because to them: attraction is black and white. Either you have what she is attracted to and she'll love you for you, or you don't have what she is attracted to and she'll only love you for what you can do for her. One needs to bring only himself to the table, flaws and all; the other needs to move mountains and be flawless. Any mistake the latter makes is potential ground for disqualification, whereas the former can wave enough re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:51 PM
3

Because most women's lesbianism is as fickle as their outlook on relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:44 PM
1

Well of course. People who don't understand it won't ever understand it because their only exposure to the red pill is toxic grifters like Andrew Tate, or media like Adolescence/shit like that which paints it in a bad light. People are not going to look at the red pill positively simply because their first impression they had was bad, and there's nothing you or I can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:23 PM
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It's deception-bragging. Disguising bragging with complaints, grievances, or other negative talk. Nothing humble about it. Humblebragging is more like this: "How did you manage to grow your business so fast?" "I guess I just got lucky" (whereas the reality is a lot of time and hard work)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:47 PM
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Women don't complain to have their problems solved. And in this case, they're not complaining at all... it's a subtle brag - peacocking for the sake of intra-sexual competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:45 PM
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I wouldn't call it love, but I once found myself thinking about a woman I wasn't attracted to (in a relationshippy way) because she was very nice and things with this other hot, mean bitch were getting stale.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:05 PM
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He spits a mean game and knows how to tap into a woman's emotions. There's probably also something about how he carries himself and interacts with the world that women find enticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:27 PM
1

The experiences you make your children witness that lead up to the divorce (loveless marriage, fighting and bickering as adversaries, etc) are arguably more traumatizing than the actual divorce itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:26 PM
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Truth begins in lies. Think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:31 AM
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Everybody lies. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:29 AM
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I'm just saying the statistic is likely flawed because the criteria was probably way too vague when you're talking polling and surveys. Almost willing to bet money any guy will tell you guys are just way bigger gamers, and I say this as a guy who played a lot when I was young and quit in my 20s. There is also this push to really just kind of make gaming really easy to access, so you see lots of casuals (people you'd barely even call gamers) playing shit like rocket league or super smash brothers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:21 AM
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