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| 1 | Red Flags for a LTRI'd be wary of doing that if I were you. The more time you spend looking for casual sex rather than looking for a long-term relationship, the worse the dating pool is going to get. In my experience, the good ones get taken off the market early and your actions will have consequences on your dating prospects. Perhaps not as much as it would affect a woman, but it could still negatively impact you. The type of women you'd want to marry will care the most because they have no shortage of options. | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Yeah, I can agree with this. The market might be self-regulating but that doesn't mean that the market produces optimal outcomes. All you can do is teach young people how to avoid the same mistakes that their parents made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.So if you’ve also partaken in casual sex you cannot and judge others for doing the same. That’s the pot calling the kettle black. If you are of the opinion that the women you fuck are beneath you, then you don’t deserve a woman in a relationship to have sex with you. People are allowed to have whatever standard they want regardless of how "hypocritical" it is. Who are you tell someone else they don't "deserve a woman"? The market determines if someone is deserving, not your sense of morality. Di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.How do you know the thoughts of the man? You’re essentially saying the woman you want to be with is undeserving of her sexual past and that clearly all the men she was with viewed her as trash. That says way more about you than it does about her. I know that as a guy who has had casual sex and has been around men who has had casual sex that men are absolutely willing to dumpster dive for casual sex and that they definitely see the women they sleep with as beneath them. That’s a flawed way of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Eh, I disagree that a woman needs to be "passionate about men" in order to be promiscuous. She literally just needs to have a vagina and be willing to take the risks in order to get sex. A lot of the worst women I've ever met were promiscuous because they didn't know how to hold down a relationship and used sex as a coping mechanism. I do think that a lot of promiscuous women are very good at putting on an act to get what they want out of men. Dark Triad begets Dark Triad after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Never said it wasn't consensual. But a lot of people might find that problematic. At the end of the day, people are allowed to date whom they want and people need to accept that certain people will not want to date them. Stop trying to convince men to stop caring about body count. If they want to die alone as a result of having those standards, then that is their prerogative. Plus, it's not like promiscuous women are ones to be talking about red flags. Their relationships failed for a reason and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.What does your sexual past have to do with respect or attraction? If you're willing to have sex with men whom you knew were dumpster diving and didn't respect you, then that says a lot about how you view sex. It’s a much larger red flag for a man to ask as it shows he is treating me as an object that he wants his penis to dominate. Nothing makes someone feel more like a sex object than a man wanting the nitty gritty details of her past sex life. I can't imagine being in a relationship with someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.I don't remember ever changing my tune about how I don't find promiscuity attractive. Yeah, I would say for a lot of those women, they engage in that behavior as a coping mechanism. They tend to get into a bunch of short-term, failed relationships and then use casual sex whenever they're down bad. It isn't normal behavior to intentionally sleep with someone you know probably has low standards and may not truly respect you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.If he asks and she doesn't say the truth, then that is definitely a dishonest thing to do. Treating people as disposable sex objects and not particularly caring if your partner actually finds you attractive or respects you isn't really healthy behavior imo. If he gets what he wants in the end, then all is fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:07 PM |
| 0 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Yeah, I guess some guys aren't very good at vetting for character or honesty. Well, I guess those guys get what they deserve at the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.At that point, the guy might just decide he might not get married if he was forced to make a choice or go MGTOW or something. But I agree that most guys would choose looks over n-count as long as he felt that being with her was net-positive over being single. Plus it's not really the n-count that matters as much as how the n-count was achieved. Did she have a lot of casual sex with dudes out of her league or what it mostly short-term relationships? I'd say that context matters more than n-count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.I'm actually seeing a therapist right now. I don't really find this conversation very entertaining to be honest. Plus you didn't really respond to anything I've said in good faith. You kinda just changed the conversation which makes it kind of difficult to follow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Got any recommendations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.It's not really about the number for me. It's more about the personality traits that enabled a woman to intentionally seek it out. I've never asked a woman for her number. She always brought it up first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:35 PM |
| 8 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.I've had casual sex before. Interesting how so many promiscuous women immediately resort to attacking a guy's sexual history in response to whatever questions they get. I don't really base my self worth on how many women I sleep with and I don't care for casual sex. Emotionally mature people tend to not treat people as disposable sex objects and tend to care a lot if their partner finds them attractive and respect them. I don't really see many promiscuous women that I'd consider emotionally matu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:27 PM |
| 9 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Tbh, most guys don't really need to ask. They can tell from your personality and lifestyle choices about what kind of woman he's dealing with. Let's be real here, you aren't necessarily having a deep dive into a man's worldview when you choose to have a ONS. Being a good person isn't a prerequisite to getting laid. Plenty of objectively terrible men get laid all the time. Plus, how many of those guys you've dated saw you as wife material? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:21 PM |
| 17 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.I disagree with this. If they truly didn't care about what men thought, then they wouldn't be trying to spend so much energy to get guys to overlook a woman's past. If they had all the options in the world they wouldn't trying to be hiding their past from potential partners. If they really had unlimited options, they would just find a guy who genuinely doesn't care instead of trying to convince men that it doesn't matter. They do this because they hope they can get away with it and because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 06:55 PM |
| 0 | Men need to stop trying to put promiscuous women in their place. The SMP and the world already tells them exactly what their value is.Even if this were true, it's not men's job to "keep the market in check". Those women can do whatever they want. If they want to get pumped and dumped by dudes out of their league, then that is their prerogative. I would say that most of those women know exactly what they're doing. The women you are referring to aren't mentally sane people. Anyone with any amount of common sense can figure out that people tend to date on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?I guess this assumes that people are choosing their casual partners solely based on looks and not chemistry. This might be how it works on Tinder, but it doesn't seem to be how it works when people choose a FWB for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?Depends on how low the guy's standards are. Some guys only want to sleep with women they find very attractive. Other guys are willing to dumpster dive. Plus it's not nearly as low effort as you think it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:54 PM |
| 5 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?No, they can't. There are way more men than women on dating apps. You have to lower your standards pretty hard in order to get anything off of it. If you want to actually meet women you find very attractive, you're better off approaching them at the bar and relying on your personality and chemistry rather than trying to be the hottest guy in the pile of matches that a woman has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?Because the quality is way lower than what you can get in real life. Tinder is where a lot of guys go to dumpster dive and your personality doesn't matter nearly as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?Yeah, you definitely seem like the type of guy who'd do well on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:34 PM |
| -4 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?And sure, you need to be hotter just to be able to get casual sex from them. But as soon as that minimum is met, being any hotter doesn't give extra benefit. Hotter than the woman or hotter than the guy she feels like she can get commitment from? Would a woman turn down a guy she saw as a 6 or 7 for casual sex if she herself is a 7 assuming she still found him decently attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?I'm not disagreeing that chemistry matters. I'm just trying to figure out what the difference might be between the type of women who use Tinder vs those who meet men at the bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:51 PM |
| 4 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?Yeah, this makes sense. I guess this is the biggest reason why I never really felt the need to put effort into Tinder. The amount of time and effort I would need to put into it in order to get something off of it doesn't really seem worth it when I can take care of my needs immediately by jerking off or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?Ok, if that's true (and I have my doubts but I'll grant it for the sake of discussion), it's because women like to be approached and pursued. The way Tinder works does not align with female sexuality. Is this because it is more validating for women to be approached? Does it make them feel more desired? Also, what doubts do you have? Tinder is like the equivalent of 10 guys approaching you at once because of the gender ratios. IRL you only get approached by one guy at a time so it becomes more of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?What I'm saying is that the men that women can get to approach her at the bar are less attractive than the guys that she can get to meet up with her off of Tinder. The men at the bar are not necessarily less attractive than the men on Tinder, but there will be a difference in attractiveness of the men that woman can get at the bar vs. Tinder because there is less competition. Plenty of guys choose Tinder over the bar because rejection doesn't sting as much and they may not have very charismatic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:24 PM |
| 11 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?I don't think this is true. Plenty of guys say that they can get way more attractive women at the bar vs on Tinder. I've experienced this to be true as well. The quality seems to be objectively better in-person. Plus, you're not competing with dozens of other guys for a date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:13 PM |
| 2 | Why hook up with guys at the bar/club when you can hook up with hotter guys off of Tinder?I'm sorry Narnia, maybe next time I'll make a question made specifically with you in mind 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:06 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Well somebody has to tame that stallion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I feel like escorts are the better option if that's your only goal and nothing else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:32 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.This model ranks the value of men by appearances, with the hottest being worthy of casual sex and relationships, and the less-hot but still worthy being worthy of relationships and the ugly deserving of nothing. I think it's definitely true that hot guys are way more likely to have casual sex than less conventionally attractive guys. Women definitely fuck up, and guys definitely fuck down. I've always wondered why a woman would choose to have casual sex at the bar over meeting men over Tinder. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:31 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I don't date extraverts. I don't really like the lifestyle that tends to come with extraversion. If it bothers you, you should seek an introvert. Don't try to force yourself into dating someone you don't feel secure around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 09:33 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I don't believe this at all. I much prefer introverted women myself. They tend to be marriage material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 09:28 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I think I'll be alright. Thanks for your concern though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Actually I haven’t had sex, not that it’s any of your business. Even so, I wouldn’t dare someone like you. Even if I was single I wouldn’t date you because your opinions and personality are rancid. Also what about women? I don't really care about your sex life nor did I say that I wanted to date you. I just answered your question. I'm not really concerned about what random women on the internet think of me. Also what about women? I don't really date women who have casual sex, period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 09:08 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Did you fuck guys out of your league casually? If you did, it doesn't matter to me how many guys you slept with. You're immediately pump and dump material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 09:03 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Do you really think I've settled? If you do, then I am so sorry. I am so, so sorry. Congratulations. But you still definitely settled for him physically. I don't see how you can make that argument otherwise. You still would have never given him the time of day when you were looking for sex. Those guys you dated who were out of your league probably didn't know what their RMV was and could have done better in terms of objective metrics if they were operating in an environment where the gender rati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 08:26 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Would you have chosen your partner for casual sex? I'd be willing to bet that he wouldn't have met your standards for casual sex and is therefore a "downgrade". If he would have, then all is fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 08:17 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Further, attractiveness tends to be a more important factor in our dating decisions than traits like personality, education, and intelligence (Eastwick et al., 2011; Eastwick and Finkel, 2008; Luo and Zhang, 2009; Kurzban and Weeden, 2005; Sprecher, 1989; Thao et al., 2010). Physical attractiveness may be so important to us because we associate other positive qualities with a pleasing appearance. People are a lot more shallow than they like to think they are when they choose their partners. Key … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 08:04 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I imagine for men, 'attractive' does show up on both lists, because men value physical attraction a lot more than women do. Women supposedly care less about attractiveness because they know a guy out of their league is less likely to stick around and because there are greater risks to choosing a partner solely based on looks. Studies show that men and women both value physical appearances approximately the same. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/dating-and-mating/201701/why-physical-attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 07:37 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.They're not real people, they simply exist to serve a purpose in your life. I just find this attitude to be very unattractive in general. The real reason if you're being completely honest with yourself, is that that guy is out of your league and would never date you. Otherwise, you'd just find a guy with the body type that you prefer and get a relationship with him, right? There are billions of people in the world, I'm sure you could find a bodybuilder type of guy to date you /s. Of course, it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 07:08 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.If it's fine to disregard women's viewpoint and motivations because the men don't see it the same way, then why not the opposite? The woman is still getting validation. What does it matter what the man's viewpoint is? She's getting hers. It seems like you're trying to say women should be viewing this from the male viewpoint and should be adopting that viewpoint as their own? Wouldn't it be wiser to try and fully understand where both are coming from? Until they do, they're both playing a zero-su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 06:55 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I'm saying a sizeable percentage of them lie, and that is reason enough to be cautious. Simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:37 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.23% is still a lot. It's enough for someone to be very cautious about investing in someone. If someone told you that you had a 23% chance of something horrible happening to you within the near future, you'd probably be much more cautious going forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:33 PM |
| 15 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Fucking simps. Men need to get some self-respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Plenty of promiscuous women on anonymous platforms admit that they are promiscuous. It's a different story in real life. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/whats-your-number-new-lelo-study-reveals-that-most-people-lie-about-their-sexual-history-301185219.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:30 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Because of plenty of women openly say that they lie about their body counts. You can tell someone is a liar based on whether their stories are consistent and the logic adds ups. Plus other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.No, the manipulation and deception come from lying about choosing men of different attractiveness for different stages of life or denying that you do so or are able to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:12 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.More women are in relationships more than men. High n count men often pick high n count women. Based on your wording I’m confused if you think the women responding to you in this post are begging you to choose them. But the paranoia/delusion of being settled for is very much a problem of a minority of men. Hey, if promiscuous women don't want to date me, then that's great! That saves me time. But, unfortunately, it seems that a lot of promiscuous women are willing to lie about their past and swe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:10 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself."Women are manipulative and deceitful. Must be men's fault." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:47 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.You can do whatever the hell you want. Just don't expect people to date you despite those actions. I don't really give a crap about promiscuous women. Just don't fucking lie to me about it and we can go our separate ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:41 PM |
| 9 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I’ve seen many accounts of women married to men who made them feel undesirable and settled for. We might not talk about it much, but it happens all the time. I’ve had two male exes who weren’t that great to me when we were together in our late teens try to come back after they had a kid and got divorced in one case, and after getting out of prison in another, proclaiming I was the love of their lives, promising to treat me right this time... now that they had major baggage limiting their prospec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:26 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I can understand your point of view intellectually. I just can't empathize with it. I have my own needs and desires and you have yours. Just find a guy who is willing to overlook your past and meets your emotional needs. It's not that hard for me to find someone with a low body count so I don't really need to put myself through that if I don't want to. Your analogies don't really apply because the goals aren't the same and emotions aren't the ends in and of themselves. The goal of a relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:19 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Because women incur a much higher cost and are judged much more harshly for our sexual activity then men are. It has nothing to do with the individual man respecting the woman less and everything to do with this social cost. It makes no sense for a man to delay sex because he lives in a different reality, so it makes sense that most men don't understand this concept. and instead believe that "when a woman has casual sex with a man, that's proof that she's actually attracted to him." This is pret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 04:09 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.The topic isn’t even about high n count. I literally said in my original response many of the men telling themselves they are going to be settled for arnt even with someone. There are numerous women with low body count. It's because they're terrified that they are going to be with someone who sees them as a downgrade physically. It's hard to find these women because the ones who are readily accessible tend to be high body count women. If all the women, you come into contact with tend to be high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:53 PM |
| 6 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.But if we acknowledge that men and women inherently value different things differently, then wouldn't it be wiser to acknowledge that our partners likely value traits of ours that we don't, and don't value traits that we highly value as much as we do? That for them, it's a different equation and so they are going to come up with a different answer than we would with the same information? It doesn't matter how the opposite partner feels about the situation. You're trying to use logic in order to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:47 PM |
| 4 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.In Red Pill, there is very often a claim that women confuse the sort of man she can get into bed with the sort of man she can get to commit to her. From this we get "alpha widows", which seems to be what you are struggling with, if I am interpreting you correctly. You believe that because a woman had casual sex with more higher SMV men in the past, those are her internal SMV standards. Anything less is settling. No, I'm saying that women have higher standards for casual sex than relationships fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Yea but OLD is predominantly men. So you’re talking about a small minority of women and many arnt even taking it seriously. So the idea that every woman has been with Chad cause she owns a phone and can get a dating app is nonsense. The same phenomenon occurs at the bar and club and pretty much any place where casual sex happens. Plenty of guys dumpster dive in the real world as well. Either way glad we agree that the men who are thinking they are settled for are delusional. Never agreed to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:26 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Never said that men weren't manipulative. Men are pretty honest on here that men will lie and manipulate women to get sex and that your looks are highly important when looking for a relationship. We know that a lot of guys are trash. It's mostly women on here that are clinging on to the idea that they're somehow better than we are. Besides women aren't usually looking to have kids in their early twenties so their priorities change. Same as men do. Men want easy women until they don't. You're all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:23 PM |
| 7 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I'm also have a hard time following your logic. What exactly is being used as evidence to show that she loved this ex more than her current partner? Are these the words coming out of her mouth? Or is the man interpreting unrelated things to feed a narrative that exists solely in his head? If she feels undesired for any reason, she is free to leave as she should. She doesn't need "evidence". If she never gets into a relationship because of those feelings, then that is her problem to deal with. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:19 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.It takes two to tango. He's dumpster diving for casual sex and she's taking advantage of men's desperation to sleep with someone out of her league. Seems like a fair trade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Idk, it's pretty baffling to me that people don't talk about their previous relationships and hookups considering how formative those experiences are and how big of an impact they have. Hiding huge parts of your life like that seems pretty lacking in intimacy. If you genuinely don't care and aren't just trying to avoid uncomfortable thoughts and feelings, then you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:57 PM |
| 4 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I don’t know what dudes lowering their standards have anything to do with the topic. The flip side of men lowering their standards on dating apps because they have to is that women raise them because it's an option. Hence the LTR guy is a "downgrade" in comparison. That’s a problem she needs to deal with. Yup, so there's no point in arguing with delusional people and sluts should just date someone who accepts them for who they are instead of arguing with people over the internet who refuse to da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:54 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Not necessarily. Having sex with a guy who doesn't see you as an equal and doesn't care about you because he was hot says something about your priorities when it comes to sex. If you were willing to turn down the super hot guys who saw you as beneath them, then that shows that you value equality and mutual respect. If you feel like you're settling based on your requirements, then you're settling. I can understand what you're saying but I can't really relate to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:50 PM |
| 4 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself."What did they look like?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:46 PM |
| 6 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.What you don’t seem the acknowledged that here is no evidence he loved anyone more she is just telling herself that. It doesn't matter if there is evidence or not. If she feels like she is being settled for, she should leave. It doesn't matter what her partner says. If she feels like his actions are not lining up with his words, she is justified in believing that he isn't telling the truth. If she's being delusional, then that would mean that the relationship isn't going to work out anyway. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:44 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Why are you saying this like it's a one-sided female behavior? Men and women who gaslight and manipulate tend to be pretty equal between the genders. Why do you specifically mention that these women are "promiscuous"? I hate to tell you this, but virginity does not equal kindness, righteousness or goodness in women any more than it does men. I never said that it was only promiscuous women who were terrible people. What I'm saying is that promiscuous women here will gaslight you about the fact th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:38 PM |
| 5 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I gave you a scenario where the woman is in a loving scenario yet she is claiming she is settled for. She doesn’t feel desire because of some false narrative she put in her head. If someone said they had cancer but the doctor said they didn’t, you wouldn’t encourage them to demand chemo. Some people are putting false narratives in their head and we should recognize that. If she knew that her partner was more attracted to/loved/committed to his ex than he is to her, she is within her right to lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:32 PM |
| 3 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Some women lie about past partners. Personally, I think a man is immature if he even asks. Why? I think it's important to know what someone's values are regarding sex to see if you're on the same page Yeah sure, I'm not fit for a relationship with a man that holds values such as yours. I knew that already though The feeling is mutual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:17 PM |
| 7 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.No, they're not, they're around the same level of attractiveness. I won't commit to a man I don't find attractive. The fact that your brain goes straight to you buying hookers, suggests your brain has been porn fried. What are you talking about? Jesus, I was just giving you an example. There are people who are more attractive than others. Why would we struggle getting married? I don't intend to marry anyway. I don't think that most guys want to wife up women who sleep around. I think it's better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:12 PM |
| 9 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.If a woman was complaining about how she feels settled for despite her man treating her well we would tell her the same thing. Why? If she doesn't feel desired and feels like a downgrade, she has every right to leave. I would fully support her in that decision. The issue with so many men who complain about being “settled” for. The woman never told them that, a lot of times they arnt even in a relationship. They are making up this fantasy scenario where a woman who loves them isn’t good enough be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:10 PM |
| 4 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.What I'm saying is that we all make compromises in terms of physical appearance and attractiveness for the sake of a stable relationship and the labor needed to raise a child. Simply having a kid with someone isn't much of an indicator of attraction as it is of practical matters of emotional and financial capital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:06 PM |
| 10 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Is it some homosexual impulse or male fantasy, the obsession with this muscled tall guy. 😂 Ah, there's that famous lack of empathy that so many of you promiscuous people are known for. I've hooked up with plenty of men, hardly any has six packs and most weren't tall, and I wouldn't have been more attracted to them if they were. If you're gonna be completely honest with yourself, the guys you can get for casual sex are going to be a lot hotter than the guys you can get commitment from. I don't un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 02:01 PM |
| 8 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Yeah, this is what it really comes down to. They want to be able to do what they want without it affecting their dating prospects. So in order to get guys to date them, they need to lie and manipulate in order to get what they want. Makes sense, when you think about it. A lot of women who engage in casual sex have Dark Triad personality traits. It's not really shocking that they would do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 01:57 PM |
| 12 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Not really. A woman doesn't have to get commitment from a man to have his child, just get him to cum in her, to put it bluntly. For me to have a child with a man, the list of ideal things is longer than just for sex. Very few people want to be single parents. People get married to people they aren't really attracted to all the time. I can guarantee you if a single woman was going the in-vitro fertilization route, she would go for the most attractive, successful guy's sperm she can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 01:54 PM |
| 11 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.How do you know she wouldn't have? Maybe you just met her later. Also, people mature. If she was hooking up with a bunch of tall guys with six-packs off of Tinder, I can be pretty confident that yeah, I'm being settled for. If your response is "how would you know?", then I'm going to respond by saying that I don't want to be with someone who is willing to lie about her past and the type of guys she went after. I don't think it's so high risk nowadays. Its the norm to sleep around a bit, so a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 01:51 PM |
| 21 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.I'll be honest, I wouldn't feel great about myself if I knew that she wouldn't have given me the time of day during her "wild phase". I have no shame in saying that. If I felt that I would have met her standards, then I wouldn't be all that concerned about it beyond the cheating risks and personality traits that correlate with such behavior. By the way, a woman wanting children with you is generally a higher compliment than her just having sex with you. Not really. It just means that you met t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Is there a male version of r/Vindicta?r/Steroids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 05:09 AM |
| 2 | would you rather date...Stacy Fucks Mary Mucks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Men are significantly more superficial than women.Do you think that the reason why women seemingly care less about looks is because they strategically go for less attractive men in the hopes that they're more likely to stick around? Or is it just that the precautions needed to avoid getting pumped and dumped tend to filter out the hotter guys? I'd also assume that the risks of being in a bad relationship for women are higher so they'd have to care more about personality over physical appearances which limits their options even further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:05 PM |
| 4 | yall are misogynistic asfI seriously admire your self awareness. I definitely wasn't as self aware as you are at that age. What the hell are your doing here though? Aren't you a little young to fighting incels on the internet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I mean it seems like almost every single woman here agrees with what I said. See the most upvoted comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?A woman in this scenario is being used as a cumdumpster by a dude out of her league who may not even be attracted to her. The guy at least is pretty confident that she finds him attractive because she had options. Whether she actually respects him is another thing entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?And? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Chad doesn't need to dumpster diveSounds about right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:57 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Because I've met some irl sloots who seemed to be completely oblivious to what they were doing. I was just wondering how representative that is. I like surveying sluts to see how they operate because I think they're kind of cool to study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I'm not trying to shame the sloots. They can do whatever the hell they want lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Idk plenty of women in thread don't seem to mind. I agree with what you're saying though. The whole is fucking disgusting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?It's not about the number of men. Yes, I know that most men are not sticking their dick in everything. But I am saying that women have ready access to this type of guy on dating apps and in places where casual sex happens. I've had casual sex with ugly women before. Wasn't a fan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Yeah dude, it's either desperate dudes with no options or guys who get into "relationships" for consistent sex but have no intention of wifing up these women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Like twice? Idk I figure that if the sex was good enough to do it again I would. But yeah, for guys if sex is passable, two conditions need to occur: 1. Be attractive. 2. Have a vagina. If one of those conditions are not met, then it's probably gonna end in a ONS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?In my experience, a ONS is a ONS for a reason. It's usually because the sex was so bad that you don't want to do it again. If it happens on Tinder, it's almost always because the guy wasn't really attracted to the girl he had sex with because he lowered his standards really hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Are you asking me why I want my partner to respect me and find me attractive? Idk dude, I just do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I’m not a man. Women tend to not go around and label people and put them in categories and rate them on a scale of 1-10 or high value to no value. Oh give me a break. We both know this is bullshit. A quick stroll over to FDS and AskWomen will show you otherwise. The reason people who “hate” promiscuity are not good people, is that they are no different than homophobes and racists. Hating something because it’s different than what you want is the definition of those things. Thinking foods from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I do not believe that the majority of women are sleeping with random strangers on Tinder. I'm saying that vast majority of the ones who do are low value. Yeah, slut is a pretty subjective thing. I've got my own definition and some other guy has his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?If you watch the news and see people get shot up and shit and get pleasure out of it, then you're definitely a sociopath. Your analogy doesn't hold up. Let me put this another way, if a guy goes around sleeping with women who may not respect him or find him attractive after having a breakup, would you consider that high value behavior or would you consider it pathetic? Like do whatever the hell you want, but don't say that what you're doing isn't anything more than a cheap coping mechanism. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:25 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women that approach have a huge advantage to those that just sit around and wait to be approached.This is bullshit. Complete idiots get laid all of the time. I would definitely say that when women approach a guy they tend to go for guys out of their league. Women who have a ton of options do not need to approach. Women who approach men are trying to "shoot their shot". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?So women who engage in casual sex are sluts? Eh, I can probably overlook a woman who had casual sex one or two times with one of her friends in her social circle. No we don't, but I can definitely see how it's your MO to just admit your own premises to a debate. Someone who is above you in either SMV or RMV depending on context. I don't think your experiences are absolute and dating apps aren't the only way to get casual sex, you know that, right? I mean no shit. Like bars and clubs and parties … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Damn bro. I have no words | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Who is "they"? Women who engage in casual sex? So every single woman who engages in casual sex without the hopes of marrying the dude is low value? Talk about a strawwoman. lmfao Yes, the vast majority of sluts are low value. In regards to "out of their league", in what sense? Your "objective" perception of male and female value? Their physical attractiveness? We all know what a league is. Don't try to dance around the definition of leagues. In regards to guys having zero standards, why? So ever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I'll do it right now. A guy who gets used for money by someone way out his league is a stupid fucking stupid dumbass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:37 PM |
| 4 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?What is "wrong" or "right" is my own business. You can have whatever sense of morality you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:36 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I guess so. It's just kind of gross imo. In any case, I'd rather not associate with people like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:36 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Care to explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?It's not about the money. There are plenty of places in the world where sex is pretty cheap and the men still choose a much less attractive hookup over an escort. A lot of it is a desperate need for validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Hey, I'm not saying that it's healthy. But, yeah a lot guys get off on being "chosen" even if it's with someone they don't actually respect. If it was really just about sex, they would go see a smoking hot escort or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?No, I'm saying that I did treat them with empathy. They ended up wanting to date me as a result because I met their standards for a boyfriend. Unfortunately, they did not meet my standards for a girlfriend. I'm saying that the people who get involved in that lifestyle are often sociopathic and don't respect their partners as equals. It was this that caused me to get out of that lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I mean tbh they definitely are low value and they are definitely being used by "Chad". The question was to simply to figure out if these women know that they're going for dudes out of their league and that those guys have like zero standards. If they wanna engage in casual sex, then they are free to do so. No on is stopping them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I'm not saying that that isn't what they tell themselves. But I think that if the guy offered a relationship with these women, they'd jump on it in a heartbeat. I've had casual sex before and this is what ended up happening. If have no doubt that if an average looking guy managed to have casual sex with a woman out his league, he'd probably jump at the opportunity to date her as well. They can't get a relationship with those guys so they cope and tell themselves they wouldn't want it even if he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Validation. Also, for a lot of guys a warm wet hole is better than their hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:11 PM |
| -2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?It really depends on what kind of casual sex we're talking about and where this casual sex occurs. If it occurs on dating apps with random strangers, then yeah the guy is probably not gonna want to date the woman he is having casual sex with. I could see it happening where the guy wants to lock down a woman he has casual sex with if he manages to hook up with some girl out his league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:10 PM |
| -4 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I've had casual sex before. It just wasn't something I liked. As it turns out, if you treat your partner with empathy and compassion and they find you attractive enough to date, they will want to date you. Casual sex is casual for a reason and casual sex is never casual. Plus, I didn't like having to lower my standards that hard and having to sleep with someone I saw as "beneath" me. I'd rather have sex with someone I saw as my equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 05:07 PM |
| 4 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?It's kinda gross that men would sleep with someone they didn't find attractive just because they're so rabidly unable to control their sexual desires. No disagreements here. Yeah, not all men. But a lot of men. Especially the men looking for casual sex on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Yep, shoot the messenger not the message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:55 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?If you're going for people out of your league and aren't vetting for someones personality, you're just asking to get used. Most women would not be sympathetic to an average man who gets used by women out his league who only want his money. People need to take accountability for their own dating lives. You are the common denominator in all your failed dating attempts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:48 PM |
| -1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Tbh I think most of the people who engage in that lifestyle are trash regardless of gender. I try not to engage in double standards if possible. But I would say that the reasons why the people engage in it are trash differ based on gender because they experience the world differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Hey, you do you. Personally can't relate to that mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Lol, let's be real here. Most of those women would jump at the opportunity to get commitment from some dude way out of their league on dating apps. This is just a cope that they tell themselves that they're "too good" for that guy that they're banging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:42 PM |
| 6 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I mean if that's how you view sex, you do you. Personally I just can't really relate to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Just curious, but how do you view those promiscuous men? I know that you're looking to get into a stable relationship now based on your previous comments. How do you feel about the whole casual sex scene and the people in it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Not really respecting your partners and not caring about whether or not they find you attractive and treating them as disposable doesn't seem like a very empathetic and compassionate thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:31 PM |
| -1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Because you're a fucking idiot if you do. It's like a guy believing that the escort that he's banging finds him really attractive because she waived him over at the red light district and told him how hot he was. The place to get a relationship is not a fucking hookup app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:29 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?They're desperate for casual sex. I don't think the vast majority of them prefer to sleep with someone they don't find attractive. It's just that they're forced to do so by the market. They may have plenty of options for relationship for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I asked a question if they realized that these guys may not actually be attracted to them. Judging by the responses here, it seems that the majority of those promiscuous women know exactly what they're doing. I'd say it's still pretty manipulative and behavior to try and get relationships out of casual sex and leverage power imbalances on dating apps regardless of whether or not she does so out of delusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Like I said before, people use other people while being used themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:09 PM |
| 5 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Both. Much like escorts will fuck any man who pays them enough, many of them are also the victims of the circumstances that led them to that situation in the first place. These things are not mutually exclusive. You can be a victim and a perpetrator at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 04:08 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I wouldn't really describe that as "attraction". It's a lot of things, but attraction isn't one of them. Is a woman "attracted" to her dildo? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:57 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Is a guy attracted to a fleshlight that's been filled with warm lube? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:54 PM |
| -6 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I would say that taking advantage of some desperate dude on dating apps using sex as validation in order to sleep with a guy out of your league is definitely predatory behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mysteries-love/202106/new-study-investigates-dark-triad-traits-and-link-promiscuity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Interesting. Hey can I see this study btw? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:45 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Doesn't mean he's attracted to you. Just a warm hole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Interesting. Would you consider yourself to have Dark Triad personality traits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Hah, no it isn't. A lot of guy will sleep with anything if she makes it easy enough. You can try it out yourself. Go on Tinder or website with very skewed gender ratios and find a picture of a very unattractive woman on the internet. Make it obvious that you're looking for casual sex on your profile and be willing to spam messages to any guy who matches with you. I guarantee you that if you're willing to go straight over to the guy's place within a few messages, you'll have plenty of dudes way o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?It's not about wanting a relationship. It's about wanting your partner to actually respect you and find you attractive. I don't see how "empowering" it is to have sex with someone who sees you as a walking dildo/fleshlight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:30 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Why would you want to have sex with someone who doesn't respect you and may not even find you attractive? Is getting sex really such an amazing experience as to surround yourself with people like that. I'd rather jerk off personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:26 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Dude, Tinder is absolutely a hookup app. People generally don't go on Tinder looking for wife material. They might get "relationships" out of it that don't go anywhere because of the differences in RMV, but that's stretching the definition of relationship. The delusion is believing that this dude out of your league who takes interest in you on there actually finds you super attractive when in actuality it is highly probable that he is just a thirsty dude with no standards whose trying to get lai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:18 PM |
| 4 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?As long as you don't think too much about the thing that you're doing, sure. If you have the ability to suspend disbelief and engage in something like that, then you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:13 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Then why put yourself in that situation? Is getting a guy to stick his dick in you really such an amazing experience to put yourself through something like that? Why would you want to surround yourself with sociopaths? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Yeah, I think a lot of men have a lack of self-respect and are willing to do whatever it takes to get pussy. Fucking simps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:08 PM |
| 9 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Your vibrator is not a person with feelings. This is a terrible argument. Jesus Christ, I don't think I'd ever treat another human being like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:06 PM |
| 0 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?If I was deliberately going on Tinder where I knew that guys had rock bottom standards and sleep with anything and knew that guys will say and do all the right things to get laid, I'm not really being "fooled" am I? I can understand it if the girl was drunk and the guy was pressuring her, but anyone who deliberately puts herself in that sort of environment bears full responsiblity for what happens. I wouldn't go into a brothel thinking that the women there were super attracted to me if the broth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:05 PM |
| 5 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?I'm pretty sure most people care if their partner finds them attractive and respects them. This is why most guys don't see escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 03:00 PM |
| 7 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?Absolutely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 02:59 PM |
| -8 | Do most promiscuous women know that men will sleep with anything or are they really that delusional?There's just something about that that gives me chills. Seems kind of sociopathic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 02:55 PM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Hey, feel free to believe what you want to believe. Your feminist white knight phase isn't going to last long. It is common knowledge that women can get sex far more easily than men and many of them don't care less what his values are as long as he's hot, safe, and good in bed. And why the hell would she? You're a disposable dick to her. It's true that many women do not choose to do so because of risks, slutshaming, etc. but there's plenty who quite frankly don't care. Plenty of objectively terr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:33 PM |
| 6 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Bro. I've had casual sex. It's not really that hard to obtain if you're willing to dumpster dive. I use the word "Chad" because it's funny as shit. There are plenty of dudes on this sub who've had casual sex who will readily agree with what I'm saying. Casual sex isn't this super exclusive club that only the most charming and socially aware Alphas have access to. Even complete idiots have casual sex if they have the fundamentals and they're operating in the right conditions. A lot of women could… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:36 PM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.What I'm saying is that being a good person is not a necessary condition in order to get laid. Being an "incel" doesn't really say anything about how good of a person you are. If you're willing to employ a bunch of Dark Triad charm and Machiavellian deception, it's not hard to rack up a high body count. If anything having a high body count is correlated with being an awful person because you're probably treating your partners with an attitude of disposability and reducing them down to their body… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:47 PM |
| 3 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Nice shaming language. Any dude who doesn't want to date a high N woman is incel? Bro I've had casual sex and I've been in relationships. Any idiot with any amount of common sense can tell you that women raise their standards for casual sex and lower them for relationships. Hell, women themselves admit this over at Askwomen and FDS. It you wanna date a woman like that, go ahead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Honestly, this was probably the best challenge to my view thus far. As we've covered before, a woman choosing someone of similar RMV or lower and similar values and personality traits is almost always a necessary but insufficient condition in order to maintain a stable relationship. Being a good match on paper isn't enough to make a guy want to marry you or want to hang out with you outside of sex. Making "Mr. Less Attractive, Potential Relationship" guy wait is a good strategy to vet out guys t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Yep, even Nazis and serial killers can get laid. It's a lot easier to get laid if you're willing to throw all morals out the window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 02:52 PM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I would imagine that the guys you've met off OLD were far more attractive and probably less willing to stick around unless you purposely chose guys who were less conventionally attractive and more on your level. How true would you say this is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 01:03 PM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Did you meet these guys off of dating apps or in real life? I could imagine that what you're saying is true if you met these guys in real life within your social circle and they approached you first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:54 PM |
| 3 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.This is just saying AFBB but in a nicer way. Sleep with hotter guys way out of your league who'd never commit to you and settle down with a less attractive guy who'll stick around and make him wait for sex. The standards for casual sex are much higher because the supply of men willing to sleep with you casually is a lot higher than the supply of men willing to commit to you. "Dick is abundant and low value". Men are allowed to not want to be the BB if they don't feel comfortable with it. Not eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:34 PM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.You don't need to "practice" being good at sex by sleeping with a bunch of dudes. This is just nonsense and makes the assumption that a woman whose had a bunch of dicks in her is better at sex than someone who hasn't. No shit people like sex. It's a matter of what you're willing to tolerate in order to get it. I'm not going around sleeping with escorts because I "like sex". Why? Because I have goddamn self respect and wouldn't want to sleep with someone who'd never date me in a million years. A … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Oh, my apologies. This whole time I was assuming I was arguing with a high N woman. If you're low N and you've had limited experience with casual sex and better yet find it repulsive to have casual sex with random strangers who probably saw you as beneath him, then you're alright in my book. I would still find it a red flag if you've had more than 2 failed relationships because that would signal a lack of introspection and accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 06:25 AM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.No, I think the vast majority of guys who are motivated enough to avoid women who sleep around will find a way to do so. Hence, assortative mating. The reason why your partner doesn't ask is because he knows that there is nothing good that can come from asking or he doesn't understand that women raise their standards for casual sex and lower them for relationships. It's good for him that he doesn't ask though. Good shit. Personally wouldn't be able to date a high N woman myself. It wouldn't end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 06:11 AM |
| 1 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Why did all your relationships fail? A lot of times a guy doesn't need to ask what your number is. He can guess what type of woman he is dealing with based on her personality and lifestyle. A lot of guys will casually date a promiscuous woman for a good time, not a long time. I doubt a lot of these guys were showing you off to mom and dad. It sounds like that dude was pretty desperate and was willing to hold on to consistent sex for dear life. I'm willing to bet he saw you as more attractive tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:39 AM |
| 4 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. Yes, it may be the case that a man could sleep with a more attractive woman than his wife especially if he doesn't have any moral objections to feigning commitment. But, assuming this guy is being completely honest about wanting casual sex, his wife is very likely going to be the most attractive woman he's ever been with. The point I'm trying to make is that men are far more likely to want to commit to the hotter woman than the less attractive woman. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 05:10 AM |
| 3 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I just don't think this is true. Most guys don't sleep around like that and they tend to hold on to hot women they like as people for dear life. Anecdotally, the less attractive guys I knew with a more attractive partner were way more likely to lock her down and propose to her and knock her up fairly quickly at a pretty young age. It just goes to show how far a lot of guys will go to get with women they see as higher value than themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:52 AM |
| 5 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Not the only criteria. But it was definitely one of the most important. Guys like it when the woman is more attractive than him. Her personality absolutely matters though. If he's going to live with her for the rest of his life, she needs to have a good personality. In either case, the standards for looks and personality are much higher for a wife than casual sex. The standards for a hookup are pretty rock bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:45 AM |
| 4 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.The vast majority of guys absolutely care. You might be able to get away with it if you lower your standards enough. There are guys willing to overlook a woman's promiscuity if she's sufficiently out of his league. You see this all of the time in swinger community apparently. The "6-9" split as it were. It's absolutely comparable. Women can get casual sex with guys way out of their league very easily. This is just reality and women themselves admit to this. Women openly admit to having higher st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:41 AM |
| 4 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.It's much less likely to happen. Usually, guys tend to wife up the most attractive women they can get. Women are much more willing to turn casual sex into a relationship because they know that commitment is harder for them to get, especially as a promiscuous woman. Men are far more likely to "fuck down" and "date up" while women are more likely to "fuck up" and "date down". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:34 AM |
| 7 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I'm not disagreeing with this. I'm saying that they can get hotter guys for casual sex than they can get for a relationship. It's really not that hard to understand. Let me put this another way. The escorts a guy can sleep with will almost always be way hotter than the woman he marries. There's no shame in admitting that there are some people who are more attractive than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:14 AM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I don't think there's that many guys out there that would marry a high n-count woman. They might get into "relationships" with her for consistent sex, but they're less likely to wife her up. As for the insecurity thing, I'll give you an analogy. Let's say there's a guy who spent his 20s sleeping with supermodel looking women and 10/10 escorts who would never date this guy in a million years. After getting tired of being used and tossed aside, he looks for a woman who actually finds him attractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:08 AM |
| 9 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Dude, what the hell are you talking about? I've had casual sex and relationships before. I'm not miserable. I'm here for the goddamn memes. I don't believe in that evo-psych crap but I don't think anyone can realistically argue that women don't have an easier time getting sex and that they can't easily get some ripped dude off of Tinder despite not being very attractive themselves. It's just how the world works. Dating is a market driven by supply and demand. There are way more men than women in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 04:02 AM |
| 9 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.There are so many studies that show that men lower their standards for casual sex and women raise them. Women themselves admit to having higher standards for casual sex on Askwomen and FDS. One person's anecdote does not negate the reality that women tend to have higher standards for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 03:55 AM |
| 8 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I don't think that's true for the majority of women. It's definitely not true for women who engage in casual sex with strangers. I can see this being true if you only hooked up with guys in your social circle and you had a fairly even number of men to women or had a female skewed ratio. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 02:57 AM |
| 10 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.I don't think that most women date men they aren't attracted to. But it's definitely true that the guys they sleep with casually are more attractive than the guys they end up dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 01:55 AM |
| 2 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.No dude. No strings attached sex exists. Where the hell did I say it didn't? I've had casual sex before. I've used Tinder before. I say "Chad" because it's funny as shit and there's an iota of truth in it. Women can easily get some ripped dude to sleep with her off of Tinder no matter how unattractive she is. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/ Sounds mentally taxing and not fun at all. Personally, what I see in my day-to-day is a bunch of peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 01:08 AM |
| 5 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Why does it always have to go back to validation for being able to get sex? What if she just wants sex? People want to feel desired. This is why a lot of incels will tell you to go fuck yourself when you tell them to go sleep with escorts. Sex isn't really about sex. It's mostly the emotions that people have when they have sex. Also, most regular people aren’t premising their relationships around body counts. Are you sure about this? The vast majority of dudes I know absolutely care about sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:49 AM |
| 5 | High n-count women aren't going to make you wait a long time while they sleep with Chads immediately. They're going to sleep with you as fast as possible so that you get attached and overlook her red flags.Why would a girl who can fuck any dude she wants be so desperate for a relationship? Most women with any amount of common sense realize that a lot of guys will fuck anything and lower their standards considerably for casual sex. I think most of them realize that there isn't any real validation as a woman in being able to get sex. This is like asking "why are men desperate for casual sex when escorts are readily available"? Women wouldn't need to lie about their n-count if they could get a commit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:32 AM |
| 4 | Women, do you care about a man's sexual history/body count?Any woman that judges a man poorly because his n-count is too low is very low value. Any decent woman with half a brain knows that a high N man is far more likely to cheat and is willing to employ a bunch a Machiavellian deception in order to get sex with a bunch of women. If you have to lie about who you are in order to get a girl to like you, then you're surrounding yourself with the wrong people and you should probably get therapy to boost your sense of self worth and to better identify red f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 08:15 PM |
| 4 | Women, do you care about a man's sexual history/body count?That's not even remotely true. Some guys don't actually base their self worth in how many women they sleep with and prefer relationships instead. Racking up a high body count is largely a function of lifestyle and how low your standards are. Not everyone aspires to be a fuckboy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:56 PM |
| 6 | Women, do you care about a man's sexual history/body count?I would say that if you were that willing to toss people aside like that, you never really cared about them. You might have just faked it or said whatever you needed to get laid. Hell you might even believe your own lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Women, do you care about a man's sexual history/body count?When they say they don't want a high N man, they are saying they don't want a man of similar RMV who has slept with a lot of people. Yes, they are willing to overlook N count if he brings other things to the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 07:24 PM |
| 3 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?I think the need for "dating practice" isn't a healthy way of looking at relationships imo. You wouldn't have "practice friendships" would you? I approach relationships the same way I'd approach making friends. If I genuinely enjoy hanging out with them one on one regardless if sex is on the table, I'd be open to dating that person. I would agree that a situation where you meet someone you'd be open to dating long term but won't be around long enough to do so would be nice. However, I know that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 02:20 PM |
| 8 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?I never really understood the whole concept of STR. If I genuinely enjoyed someone's company and they were of equal SMV or higher, I'd probably want to date them and keep them in my life long term. Relationships to me are friendships with extra steps. If I see someone as disposable or "temporary" due to factors that are not outside of my control, then I'd question how much I truly cared about that person. I can understand your point about cohabitation, that can get pretty messy unless both of yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 02:01 PM |
| 11 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?I guess so. If you weren't looking for a long term relationship then it isn't surprising that these guys weren't willing to wait to have sex. Why wait for casual sex when some other girl will have sex with you sooner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 01:29 PM |
| 15 | What are the lesser known struggle dating as a woman?I think the guys who were turned off that you were a virgin probably weren't looking for a relationship. Virginity and *gasp "blood!" is a pretty insignificant thing when looking for the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. I just don't think that these guys genuinely wanted a relationship or maybe they didn't see you as relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/21 01:13 PM |
| 2 | Men lie to get sex. Women lie to get relationshipsDid these guys see you as marriage material or were they just trying to get laid? I guarantee you that the vast majority of guys care about sexual history if they plan on spending the rest of their life with someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsWe all know that women don't need to be attractive to get some hot dude to sleep with them. Guys will sleep with almost anything if she makes it easy enough. No one is trying to punish women who sleep around. Women have every right to sleep around if they wish. However, men have every right to reject someone for any reason including n-count. Women have every right to reject someone as well. People should just accept that people have their preferences and move on instead of trying to engage in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/21 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsDo those women realize that "men will fuck anything" as long as she makes it easy enough? Or are they just clueless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:05 PM |
| 3 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsGuys will fuck anything. Women have much higher standards. Casual sex for men is like being an escort. Casual sex for women is like being a John. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 05:01 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsI'm not disagreeing that high N counts men are more likely to cheat and much more likely to have Dark Triad personality traits. My point is that people can have any justification they want for not wanting to date someone regardless of how "hypocritical" it is, and no one has the right tell someone else what their standards should be. I agree with the rest of your comment though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 03:05 AM |
| 5 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsAh, will do. Sorry about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:24 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsI have my moments. I might act like an asshole sometimes, but I genuinely want to be more understanding of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:16 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsHey, if thats what you believe. Then go ahead with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:14 AM |
| 3 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsNo complaints here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:13 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsIf you want to think I'm an asshole, then you can do so. I'd rather you didn't though. I'd rather be friends. You seem like someone I'd like to hang out with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:12 AM |
| 6 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsNo complaints here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:11 AM |
| 3 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsNobody is owed consistency in their standards. An obese woman who never works out is allowed to only want to date fitness models. It's just how to world works. Life isn't fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsNo disagreement that high N people end up with high N people. But we're all allowed to have standards and if we can't find someone, we die alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:06 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsHaha, you flatter me. I'm not powerful enough to be the arbiter of your own sense of morality and truth. If you believe that a man is disgusting for chasing virgins because of your sense of fairness, then he is allowed to see you as disgusting because of his sense of fairness. Whose fault is it that the sexual double standard exists? What is stopping women from seeing "man whores" as unmarriageable degenerates and would rather die single than date one? Maybe women should start shaming just as ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsThe money specifically changes the context that relationship because it is based purely on a financial transaction. At that point, it's money for a service and that's it. Honestly, hiring a prostitute is much closer to..... hiring a tradesperson or something (e.g. money for service) than it is to a normal dating relationship. The point was that even though a prostitute and a John are both "engaging in prostitution" which is a categorization of a certain set of actions, the dynamics behind them a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsNo arguments there. Nobody owes anyone consistency in their own standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsBut if there “preference” is really just a morality call? Ya know you’re a whore and I won’t date you, then we have a problem because you’re a whore too, so how fucking dare you. Since when did "morality" have to be fair? People will always justify things to suit their interests. Morality is the just the set of mental gymnastics needed to feel that one's actions are "fair". It doesn't necessarily mean that my morality is fair according to your standards of fairness. If you say I’m choosing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:50 AM |
| -1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsBecause it denotes a specific customer/seller relationship, instead of any other type of relationship that isn't primarily based on a financial transaction. A random man dating a random woman will have a very different context for their relationship compared to a prostitute and a John. The money is irrelevant in the analogy that put forth. A guy is allowed to not want to date anyone for any reason. If he had negative experiences with casual sex and doesn't want to date a high N woman because of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsExactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsA lot of dudes will sleep with anything. Women say that stuff all the time. I'm pretty sure most of them know that the guys on Tinder are lowering their standards considerably and that it's very likely that he isn't actually attracted to them and using her a warm hole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsIs a woman traumatized by shorter men? You can't shame someone for things they don't have control over but you can absolutely call someone out for their shitty lifestyle choices and values. Women are well within their right to only want tall men or rich men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsAnd so are women who engage in casual sex on Tinder imo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:39 AM |
| -1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsWould you say the same thing about an escort who does not want to date Johns, despite the fact that they both "engaged in prostitution" and both had "just as much sex"? There are plenty of men who absolutely get traumatized by engaging in casual sex. They are fully justified in not wanting to date a high N woman because of those traumas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:34 AM |
| 2 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsI'm not a John | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:31 AM |
| -1 | Expecting high n-count men to date high n-count women is like expecting escorts to date JohnsWhy does the money matter? People are allowed to have whatever standard they want. Casual sex for women and casual sex for men are completely different experiences. If a high N man does not want to date a high N woman because of negative experiences with casual sex, he is absolutely justified in doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?It is what it is. There's plenty of high N men looking for consistent sex. Are they going to wife those women up? Maybe not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 11:34 PM |
| -1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Ah, there's that infamous Dark Triad personality that those high N count people are known for. If you're going to make a claim and say that there is a contradiction, you should at least put in the effort to point out what it is instead of attacking your opponent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 06:13 PM |
| -1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?No, it is a common thing for them to say that 80% of men on tinder can't get laid and only the top 20% of men do get laid. So either my man is in that top 20%, or incels are wrong and lots of average guys on tinder get laid, they just don't, because they are ugly. It is definitely true that the top guys are getting laid. I don't think anyone is saying this. They're saying that even very unattractive women can get a ONS with a dude with a six-pack. But this can also be true as well. A guy in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I think incels tell themselves this as a cope because they are below-average Except they're not. They're pretty normal looking as far as I can tell. Most of them don't want to go dumpster diving though. That being said I've never believed the only guys who get laid on tinder are 6"+ and with six packs. I don't think anyone is saying this. They're saying that even very unattractive women can get a ONS with a dude with a six-pack. Guys who are less attractive are more likely to stick around longer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:55 PM |
| 3 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?"Dating" or marrying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I already do that. I'm not asking this question because I'm interested in dating them. I'm genuinely curious if the AFBB situation plays out as often as people say it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:50 PM |
| 6 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?If you actually look at pictures that incels post of themselves, many of them aren't bad looking at all. They're just normal guys who don't live a lifestyle conducive to finding partners. Plenty of objectively trash human beings gets sex all the time. It's not hard to fake being nice for a few hours when everyone is drunk at a party. I think he's a total cutie, I love his big hazel eyes and adorable smile. He sounds like a pretty normal guy. Definitely not six-pack Chad. Not that there is anythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Personally, I'm just not comfortable dating a woman like that. It just isn't something I want. It's a power imbalance to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:41 PM |
| 9 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I think when people think of Chad, they think of that dude on Tinder with a six-pack who will sleep with anything. Usually, the husbands of these promiscuous women will not be a "Chad". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Women can still get sex with someone she's very attracted to far more easily than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:28 PM |
| 6 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I don't think that's true. Plenty of low n-count women would prefer a low n-count man. Plenty of virgins want virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Good point. I didn't really think this through when I made the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:20 PM |
| 4 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Do you see women who want low n-count men the same way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?To them, having a family and marriage was more important than looks/sexual desire. For the more healthy women, they did calculations and found the best possible combo they could be happy with (in terms of attractive enough but also willing to commit). How do their husbands feel about that? Personally, I'd rather be single than be with someone who saw me as the "stable" option because the guys she was with in the past didn't find her attractive enough to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?They're out there. They just keep it on the dl but usually, you can tell from the way they talk about men that they're like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Yeah, makes sense. I would imagine that I wouldn't feel like I'm a downgrade if I managed to meet "hookup standards" and wasn't made to wait for sex with a promiscuous woman. I would still worry about cheating and such though and the power imbalances within a relationship like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Yeah, it's definitely true that high N guys can occasionally sleep with hot women, but most of the time, the results aren't going to be very good. Even very unattractive women can get hot guys to sleep with them. Such is life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 05:01 PM |
| 6 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I think another issue is that no one wants to admit that they've settled. It's definitely true that average women can get much more attractive guys for casual sex than they can get for relationships. The women who don't see themselves as settling are more likely to answer than the ones who are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:57 PM |
| 2 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?The idea is that women sleep with hot guys "out of their league" and then settle for their looksmatch. I've had women openly admit that they have higher standards for casual sex than relationships and I've definitely seen this play out. The question is do most of them "settle" or do they just continuously hold out hope for that Chad on Tinder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:56 PM |
| -4 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Yep, we all settle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I get to hear it when ANYONE isn't that desperate for pussy, they whine about what an asshole he is, so I can guarantee you that that situation happens RARELY! I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. I've had sex before, it just isn't that big of a deal for me anymore. And also: it doesn't really matter for my friends, because they're getting what they came for regardless. Even if the men just want a good time, they're still taking them out on dates with flowers and chocolates … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:36 PM |
| 9 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Hey, if a woman who sleeps around with Chad manages to snag Chad in the end, that's good for her. I just don't think even most Chads want to seriously marry a woman like that. Women on here complain all the time about high N guys not wanting to date high N women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:25 PM |
| 9 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?There aren't that many women who sleep around on this sub and are qualified to answer the question. Most "sluts" get bombed into oblivion on this sub very quickly which causes them to lash out in retaliation or cause them to get off the sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:19 PM |
| -1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?OLD isn't how most people meet their spouse. The quality of dating apps is absolutely lower for men because of the gender ratios. Real-life dating is completely different. I would agree with you that women who use a lot of online dating tend to have much higher standards for physical appearances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I don't see what the point of engaging with the community is if we can't be honest. Otherwise, we're all just bullshitting and it just devolves into a circlejerk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Why does it matter if they downvote you? The truth is the truth regardless of whether people want to hear it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I didn't downvote you. I would agree with you though. Men need to learn to accept the truth even if it hurts. I could say the same thing about women as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Eh, it's like playing the lottery and a lot of it comes down to how low your standards are. I think a lot of guys who get girlfriends off of dating sites tend to have really low self-esteem and are desperate. Most of the guys on there are looking for casual sex because they know the quality is better in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 03:55 PM |
| 0 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?I agree with that. It's usually a sign of deep-rooted attachment issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 03:48 PM |
| 8 | Do women who sleep around really "settle" or is it "Chad" or bust?Even most guys with high N don't want to marry women with high N. You see high N women on here complain about it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI'm sure that it happens that people change dramatically as they age, but the statistics show that people with high n-counts are far more likely to cheat than people with low n-counts and far more likely to have a myriad of emotional disturbances. People tend to have relatively stable values around sex over time. People can always say that they've changed and maybe they truly believe it. But their history is a pretty reliable indicator of what kind of risks you're dealing with when entering into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWhy wouldn't you want to know about his past? I feel like that's pretty important information as to what his values around sex are and his likelihood of cheating as well finding out if there is a history of emotional/physical abuse. Is it about avoiding uncomfortable thoughts and insecurity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 02:38 AM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI think there is a difference between supporting prostitution politically and being willing to date a man who partook in it. For example, I support a woman's right to have casual sex if she wishes but I wouldn't want to date someone who engages in it for a variety of reasons. Would you say that you'd be okay with dating a man who was not morally opposed to engaging in prostitution himself? Would you feel like you're being a downgrade compared to the escorts he slept with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/21 02:26 AM |
| 3 | Chasing someone out your leagueDude she just immediately started attacking you unprovoked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/21 04:33 PM |
| 6 | Does her history matter? pt.2: Divorce, Relationship Stability & Happiness (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)I don't think its that they think that she's broken if she's ever had sex. It's usually that high body counts are a heuristic for daddy issues, insecure attachment, mental health, hypergamy, cheating risk, etc. Those guys who had sex with her and left did so for a reason and I have good reason to trust their judgment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWouldn't it still be his fault for spending his time and money on her and not guaging her character? Where did he find this woman, what were her past relationships like? Were there really no red flags whatsoever? He didn't think that maybe it was too good to be true? If he isn't getting what he wants out of the interaction despite spending time and energy, he still bears responsibility for what happens. People should have the sense to move on and take precautions to prevent themselves from getti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionHe might still be grossed out by the fact that she is willing to sleep with anything who pays the price. I guess that it might be similar to how women feel towards male sluts who have low standards for whom they sleep with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNot religious and I don't find sex disgusting. It just means more to me than two people rubbing their genitals together. I don't like the idea of having sex in the absence of mutual attraction and mutual respect. To me this means sex within a committed relationship. Casual sex is casual for a reason and I don't like the idea of sleeping with prostitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYeah, honestly I'm kinda grossed out by promiscuous people in general. I'm grossed out by promiscuous women because she's willing to be a warm hole for a guy who may not have even been attracted to her. I'm grossed out by promiscuous men for using women as a warm hole. It just see it as a lack of discernment and self-respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWomen are allowed to fuck hot guys if they want to. They should just be aware that a lot of guys will sleep with anything and that it isn't an accomplishment. They should be aware that engaging in the behavior will be a turnoff to most men. Sure, a lot of it stems from resentment. But there are plenty of other reasons to not date promiscuous women that stem from disgust and risk-aversion as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 05:20 PM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYESSS...... YOU SHOULD GO SEE A THERAPIST IMMEDIATELY, YOU NEEDS IT!!!!!! YOU CAN GET ONE AT THE THERAPIST STORE....... 😂😂😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThat's a lot of exclamation points and capital letters. You should get some therapy to better process your emotions. I could feel the mental instability from reading this shit through my computer screen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 04:35 PM |
| 6 | Fellow men, women don't say the truth because WE get angry when they doYou're allowed to be disgusted by a woman sleeping with guys out her league who probably only saw her as a hole to jack off into. Women are allowed to be disgusted by guys who see prostitutes who would never sleep with them for free. But calling people names and such is uncalled for. Just say it behind their back instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Chasing someone out your leagueThis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionProstitution would simply shrink the market for relationships and casual sex. How much it would shrink it is debatable. Even where prostitution is illegal, enforcement is weak enough that men can engage in it quite easily after taking certain precautions. It wouldn't raise people's standards much if at all, but it would definitely harm the dating prospects of people at the low end of the market where the benefits of getting into a relationship/casual sex barely exceed the costs. Unattractive men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNo one is entitled to a relationship. He can have whatever standard he wants regardless of how "hypocritical" it is. People need to mind their own business. If he can't find someone who meets his standards then he needs to accept that he will day single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionBecause she is a prostitute and has low status in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:18 PM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI feel a combination of anger at the leveraging of power/privilege to sleep with a man out her league who would never date her and disgust that she was willing to let herself be used as a "cumbucket" by a guy who didn't see her as an equal. It shows a lack of empathy for others and a lack of self respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYes. Escorts are human beings capable of turning down their clients. I don't really understand why women seem to infantilize other women like that. Always the perpetual victims smh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:01 PM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIf you go for people out of your league, you should be fully aware of the risks involved. An obese man chasing after supermodels is at very high risk of rejection and no one is going to be sympathetic towards him if he complains about it and rightfully so. If a woman is getting pumped and dumped by dudes out of her league who sweet talk her into bed, she needs to take accountability for her actions. If you're going to do it, don't whine about it and accept that you're going to experience higher … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 04:47 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionSure and plenty of Johns like penetrating consensually for his own pleasure. How the penetration or penetrating was achieved is absolutely relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWomen should know by now that men will say and do anything to get you into bed and that it doesn't necessarily mean that he finds you particularly interesting or attractive. You're right that most women don't get satisfaction from sleeping with someone who doesn't find them attractive. The problem is that they convince themselves that he does because they believe whatever fantasy the guy tells them in the process of doing so. It's her own fault if she gets pumped and dumped if she goes for guys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWhen I said "low self esteem", I meant lacking in intrinsic self worth. He is looking for validation from women on Tinder. To determine who is taking advantage of whom, we should look at the power imbalance within the dynamic. A John absolutely has more power than a desperate prostitute. A woman on Tinder has a lot more power than a desperate man on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:30 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYeah it's just too easy to scare off the darn critters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYou're describing prostitution as it exists in unregulated underground markets. That's not how it works in well secured areas. The leveraging of power in order to sleep with someone out of your league who would never look twice at you in real life is fundamentally unattractive regardless of whether it is done on Tinder or at a brothel. That is the argument that I'm trying to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionBecause they want to feel desired and they want a hole to jack off into. Even though what you are saying is true with regards to the risks that women take when engaging in casual sex, that doesn't negate my point. A woman who uses Tinder to sleep with some desperate guy with low self esteem is predatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 03:09 AM |
| -1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI don't want to date a woman who would leverage a power imbalance on dating apps in order to sleep with a guy way out of her league who would never date her. She took advantage of some guy's desperation and need for validation to have sex with a guy who doesn't truly desire her or sees her as an equal. I have a visceral disgust and anger towards it in the same way that you would have towards a man who sleeps with escorts. I would say that women who get cheated on by their partners by escorts abs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYeah, saying it to someone's face is uncalled for. I agree with everything that you've said though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:48 AM |
| 4 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYou are totally fine in having that preference. Just don't call guys hypocrites for not wanting to wife up "sluts". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:42 AM |
| 4 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThis is exactly why men don't want to date women who sleep with guys way out of their league on Tinder. It's disgusting that she allowed herself to be a hole to jack off into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionSure, I can agree with that. But, the action itself does say a lot about your values and people are allowed to make a judgement about those values. If he says that he believes that women who sleep around are bad or evil, he is within his right to do so. As long as he doesn't engage in systemic discrimination or is openly disrespectful, then he is fine in doing so. I don't know, but my blood boils when I see someone I see as beneath me in market value having casual sex with some guy out of her le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIdk, women with high body counts tend to get super triggered when guys say they don't want to wife them up. I think it makes them feel like they're going to die alone or something. They'll always ask you to examine your preferences and whatnot and tend to gaslight you and manipulate you into lowering your standards. They're shit human beings, but they're everywhere on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionMen will fuck anything because they have no options and will take what they can get. A lot of it stems from a desire for validation from sex. There are women who take advantage of that and will sleep with some guy way out of their league who would never date them. If a man knowingly did the same to a desperate woman who used sex to validate herself, would that be predatory behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:23 AM |
| 4 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionAlright, I'm done | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI'm sorry for scaring you. I'd give you an internet hug if you like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYou're right that n-count is a heuristic and an indicator of someone's values and "creditworthiness". But, I need clever sounding justifications for having "hypocritical standards" to shut people up. I don't really like running away from an argument, but that's just me. There are plenty of guys out there who couldn't care less if it makes them look "hypocritical". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIt's not risk. It's taking advantage of someone with less power than you. A woman absolutely has far more power when it comes to casual sex than men do on dating apps. She knows full well those guys are desperate and will "fuck anything" and look for validation from sex. She is absolutely taking advantage of a power imbalance that favors her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:04 AM |
| 5 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNo women say that "men will fuck anything" all the time. I'm just repeating what they're saying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 02:00 AM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThey'll call us insecure or whatever. Besides, I like having an intellectual justification for my beliefs besides pure "I don't like it". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWomen constantly call us hypocrites for not wanting to wife up "sluts". We need to provide plausible sounding explanations to get them to leave us alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNo, a woman has far more power in the dynamic because she has far more options than he does and is sleeping with someone out of her league. Therefore she is the "John" in the dynamic. Is it ethical for a woman to take advantage of the fact that men are desperate on Tinder and use sex as a way to validate themselves in order to sleep with a guy out of her league? Is that predatory behavior? If a man took advantage of a desperate woman way out of his league who used sex to validate herself, is tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:52 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI know intellectually that a 10 out of 10 woman can get commitment from one of those jacked guy on Tinder that she hooks up with. I'm still disgusted by it on a visceral level and she becomes low value in my eyes. I agree with what you're saying though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:48 AM |
| 6 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYou're assuming that the guy doesn't have options. Celebrities see prostitutes all the time. I agree with you that leveraging a power imbalance to sleep with someone way out of your league who would never date you is a turnoff. This is why I don't date women who've had casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIt really depends on the type of prostitution we're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI disagree completely with that. Men absolutely can catch feelings for prostitutes because: She's hot She'll listen to whatever he says and will act like he finds her super desirable. These are pretty much the same reasons why women tend to catch feelings for the hot guys they have casual sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:34 AM |
| 5 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIt's just a fact. Women say shit like this all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI think it's actually quite common for men to develop feelings for the escorts that they sleep with because: She's hot She'll listen to whatever he says and she probably is very skilled in convincing a guy that she finds him desirable. These are kind of the same reasons why women tend to catch feelings for the hot guys that they have casual sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:30 AM |
| 5 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNot very many. The ones who want quality assurance do. You're right though, most women can just get some dude way out of their league on Tinder to stick his dick in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWhat do you mean by this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:22 AM |
| 7 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionEven if what you say is true, how is that the John's fault? Just because construction workers and agricultural workers face disproportionate levels of worker exploitation, does that mean that it's unethical to hire those workers? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI agree that people are entitled to have whatever standard that their want and people should mind their business. Getting angry about not finding a virgin is a waste of time and energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:16 AM |
| 0 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI'm not sure that your hypothetical reaction to your partner cheating on you with a prostitute is very common. I think that most women would probably react far worse to it than if he had slept with a woman way less attractive than himself on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI completely agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:11 AM |
| 7 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThat is entirely because of the fact that prostitution is illegal and escort don't have police protection for fear of being outed and have limited means of screening their clients. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:10 AM |
| 11 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWho is being coerced? There is nothing stopping an escort from turning down a client. They do it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionSo is having a ONS with a dude way out of your league on Tinder who wouldn't look twice at you in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:04 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIf you're going to complain that men are misogynistic assholes for not wanting to date a promiscuous woman despite having a high n-count themselves, then you're a hypocrite if you feel a type of way about a man leveraging his power to sleep with a woman who would not look twice at him in real life. Casual sex for women is like being a John. Casual sex for men is like being an escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 01:02 AM |
| 10 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThis doesn't make any sense. If I have the right to sell a product without government interference, then that means that buyers should have the right to buy from me without interference as well. Yeah, your quote sounds really cool and everything, but it's devoid of meaning and indicates a belief in state ownership over women's bodies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:56 AM |
| 4 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionYup, a cheater is a cheater regardless of whether he sleeps with a pig woman on Tinder or some 10/10 bombshell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionEven if they were for legalization, I think the vast majority of women would see a man seeing prostitutes as a dealbreaker for the reasons listed in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionSure, but it's a matter of ease. You're telling me you wouldn't feel worse about yourself if the woman a guy cheated on you with was far more attractive than you in every way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:29 AM |
| 5 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionNot saying that it will. It would not fundamentally alter the dating market. I'm arguing that much of the reason why women are against prostitution has little to do with altruistic reasons such as "ending human traficking" and far more to do with reducing the ability for men to cheat easily with a woman way out of his league and not wanting to be seen as a downgrade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:20 AM |
| 33 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThe whole concept is viscerally disgusting to me and I don't want to be with a man who hires a woman who doesn't find him attractive to pretend to like him and enjoy sex. This is exactly the reason why guys don't want to date women who hook up with guys way out of their league on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:18 AM |
| 4 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionLegalization or decriminalization? From what I understand, it seems that majority of women favor the Nordic model approach which favors targeting Johns over the workers themselves. This gives them the moral licensing to say that they are against police raids on sex workers but still maintain ability to crack down on Johns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:13 AM |
| 8 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWe need to make generalizations in order to have a debate about anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionBecause it means that she doesn't want to have sex with this person, she's doing it for money. That's not "enthusiastic" in my book. Just like having sex after hours of negging isn't enthusiastic either. Having sex with a desperate guy out of your league by leveraging power imbalances on dating apps who isn't attracted to you and would never date you isn't "enthusiastic" in my book either. Intimacy and emotional connections aren't just about validation. It's about actually experiencing intimacy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenI’d argue prostitution is different. It is one thing to use a persons need for validation and another to use a persons need for money. The difference being is that validation is a desire while money is a necessity to staying alive. It is a persons own fault if they couldn’t resist the validation. It’s not their fault if they needed money to eat. You're operating under the assumption that women who engage in prostitution are doing so in the absence of other economic opportunities. This is not nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenWomen aren't always the victims. If a woman knowingly goes on Tinder and hooks with a man out of her league, knowing full well the power imbalance and skewed gender ratios that enabled her to do it, she is every bit as guilty of "using him" and he is using her. Is it exploitation when a man knowingly takes advantage of a desperate woman who is out of his league and uses sex as a way to validate herself? Would you say that is predatory behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionHow do I do that again? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionMy case is that women who claim to be against prostitution by claiming they are against the commodification of sex aren't being honest about why they are against it. My argument is that they really don't like it when a man sleeps with a woman out of his league who would never date him. They would not be bothered by a man paying his girlfriend $20 for a blowjob. Therefore, the point of the commodification of sex is moot. In order to change my point of view, women must argue why the act of paying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenI have been. Wasn't fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionWell, it's the topic for another talk. They're enthusiastic about sex and they're usually the ones initiating it. Would it make a difference if a prostitute waived down a man walking through the red-light district and acted "enthusiastic" about it? They aren't pressured into it, they aren't doing it for money or just for pleasing their partner. Why does it matter if she's being paid? Again, she doesn't have to engage in prostitution or sleep with a particular client if she chooses not to. They w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThese men clearly do want to have sex and they're enthusiastic about it. They don't want the sex, they want the validation behind the sex. And I'm trying to explain to you that it isn't just about attraction, it's about consent and desire to have sex here and now with this particular person. Define "desire to have sex". A woman can easily give the man a refund and refuse to have sex with him. She could easily turn him down as a client. She is by all means consenting to sex. A man sleeping with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionCan't people just point that out in the thread. Isn't that the point of the CMV? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionIn your example it's problematic on his behalf. If he lies to her, her consent isn't really informed. But I guess you have issues with a woman in this situation and not with a guy. Most of the women engaging in casual sex know full well that men will stick their dick in anything and it doesn't necessarily mean that he finds her particularly attractive or interesting. They want just to feel desired in the moment in the same way that a John expects an escort to put on an act for him. It's all abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionThere are women within the link to the thread that provided that have a clear prior position that prostitution is unethical, but quickly changed their tune when they entertained the idea of a woman hiring a male escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionDefine "consensual sex"? An escort is an adult capable of making her own decisions. If she agrees to have sex with him under the conditions agreed upon, then she is consenting. Again, it isn't about the commodification of sex. You probably wouldn't have a problem with a guy paying his girlfriend $50 for a blowjob. I fully agree with enthusiastic and willing consent. I don't believe that a man who is lowering his standards considerably on Tinder is truly enthusiastically consenting. He is literal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionHow can I improve it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Sex trafficking isn't the main reason why women are against prostitutionI could say exactly the same thing about women who sleep with guys way out their league on dating apps. Those guys are putting on an act in order to sleep with those women and would never date them. I don't think it's the money that you're concerned with. If I paid my girlfriend $50 to give me an amazing blowjob for fun, would that be a dealbreaker? I don't think it would be. I think that you're more concerned with the idea of a guy having sex with someone who doesn't find him very attractive an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Number of partnersYeah, it's not great when people attack an entire group of people for the sins of a significant percentage of them. This is something that both genders do. I think a lot of the anger and resentment comes from not acknowledging that you have a privilege afforded to you and then gaslighting people about it. Yes, women can get casual sex far more easily than men. Yes, the guys that they can get casual sex with are far more attractive than the guys they can get committed relationships from. Yes, wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenI think it's exploitation when some woman on Tinder takes advantage of some guy's desperation and need for validation in order to sleep with a guy out of her league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 08:44 AM |
| 27 | Hook Up Culture For Women Is Equivalent To Prostitution Culture For MenMen need to stop giving a shit about what women think of them. If a guy wants to sleep with a woman way out of his league he should go ahead and do it. Women don't seem to care at all when a woman sees a male escort, so it absolutely has nothing to do with "trafficking" or the commodification of sex as these women claim it is. They're hypocrites and they're lying through their teeth. Legalize, regulate, and destigmatize sex work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 08:38 AM |
| 4 | Number of partnersWhy does it matter that people have ridiculous standards? It's their body and they can choose what they want to do with it. No one is entitled to sex or a relationship or validation. If you're pissed off that no one wants to have sex with you or that no one sees you as wife material, then that is something that you need to come to terms with. Shaming people and gaslighting isn't going to get you anywhere but cause people to double down and hate you even more. The world is not a fair place. What … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:28 AM |
| 4 | Number of partnersI don't really see the joke | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Number of partnersWhy do you care what his standards are? Let him do what he wants. If a woman wants to hook up with a bunch of guys out of her league and only wants Chad as her husband, she's fully entitled to that standard. People just need to be realistic about their ability to find someone who meets that standard. If they can't find it, they need to be okay with being single. He's saying he can't find a partner who meets his standard and therefore doesn't do relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 03:57 AM |
| 1 | EVERYBODY values appearance in a partner way more than they want to believe…It doesn't matter whether or not we feel as if social constructionism has gone too far. What matters most is which theory is better equipped to explain the world around us and what can give us practical insight as to maximize our outcomes while dating. A guy is far better served by treating dating as a market rather than a game of primitive psychology. This means putting himself in environments where the gender ratios are in his favor and by maximizing the benefits he provides relative to the op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 07:31 PM |
| 1 | EVERYBODY values appearance in a partner way more than they want to believe…David Buss is just one guy. He doesn't represent the scientific consensus. I could just as easily find some other expert in an adjacent field who could argue that many of the well-established dynamics within dating are the result of social norms and market pressures rather than the result of "caveman instincts". https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/four-fallacies-of-pop-evolutionary-2012-12-07/ The fact that our behaviors can be so easily influenced by changing social dynamics and market p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 04:40 PM |
| 1 | EVERYBODY values appearance in a partner way more than they want to believe…How is a guy saying stuff on YouTube more reliable than citing studies from reputable peer-reviewed academic journals? If you're going to make a claim, then you need to provide actual evidence to back it up. If you were to do a literature review of recent studies on the subject, the conclusion is that men and women care almost equally about physical appearances. Men are just more honest about it. The only reason why it seems that women don't care as much about looks is that they're bound by the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women becoming as much of a sex addict as men? And how do women separate themselves from their body in the act of sex?I'd say that it is definitely exploitative to take advantage of some dude's desperation and need for validation on Tinder in order to hook up with some guy out of your league who wouldn't look twice at you in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Women, do you ever have doubts about men's desire for you?I don't think it's so much that men find more women attractive. It's more that a lot of men are willing to stick their dick in someone they find unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?No woman has ever worried about having casual sex because it 'reduces her market value' normal women in the real world don't think like autistic men online. Most women get nothing for casual sex, rarely orgasm. Don't women complain all the time about guys not wanting to wife up "sluts" and complain about the sexual double standard? FDS women openly advocate for lying about their sexual history. Wouldn't see why they would need to do that if they had plenty of options. Most men I know in real lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Refusal to compromise on socio-economic standards will exacerbate the effects of "Golden Penis Syndrome".I mean we are on a subreddit discussing dating dynamics right? Such is life. Though, I think those people should just accept their fate and move on. Wasting energy railing about how the opposite gender is trash is pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Refusal to compromise on socio-economic standards will exacerbate the effects of "Golden Penis Syndrome".I don't think so at all. The statistics show that casual sex is in decline as well as the number of sexual partners. I really just think the people engaging in hookup culture will disproportionately just never get married and be childless and will just be erased from the gene pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:35 PM |
| 0 | Refusal to compromise on socio-economic standards will exacerbate the effects of "Golden Penis Syndrome".I mean it's kind of sad when you think about it. Most of those guys are definitely not okay with their situation and feel a lot of resentment about it and obsess over finding a "unicorn". Anyone who's totally okay with that isn't going to be spending all their time bashing the opposite gender and just living their life. You can see a lot of the same behavior out of women on here who claim they don't want relationships and are cool with spending their time fucking Chads. If they were so fine with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:23 PM |
| 4 | Refusal to compromise on socio-economic standards will exacerbate the effects of "Golden Penis Syndrome".I mean I could say the same thing about a guy who'd rather sleep with escorts than get into a relationship with a woman he doesn't like. He can just get companionship from his friends and family and get his needs met with someone way out his league who'd never date him. This is literally what those MGTOW guys do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:12 PM |
| 7 | Refusal to compromise on socio-economic standards will exacerbate the effects of "Golden Penis Syndrome".That's some WGTOW shit right there. Yeah lots of dudes will sleep with anything regardless of what a woman looks like. I guess that's like the female equivalent of a dude swearing off women and sleeping with escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Fair enough, I understand your point. I suppose the assumption that you're making is that all men on dating apps are looking for casual sex and that even when men are paid "efficiency wages" , they are dissatisfied with the arrangement because it is simply the best option of the ones available to him rather than being the one that he truly wanted. I could easily twist this argument around by saying that there are plenty of women who are "settling" for a relationship because casual sex is risky, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 04:55 AM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?What man wants to be the 2nd option for a woman who can't get a relationship with Chads who pump and dump her for casual sex so she "settles" for a guy in her league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/21 04:39 AM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?High SMV, low RMV | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Sure, I believe that. Just like ugly men would rather have sex with escorts than wife up an ugly woman. But does that mean that she prefers casual sex over relationships? Nope. Most of those women who claim to be totally okay with that are same types who go on FDS and obsess about getting an HVM. Not much different than MGTOW types that bash women yet obsess over getting a unicorn. It's honestly pretty sad really. Nobody really knows what it's like to grow old alone until it actually happens to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Of course, but you see I'm merely a LVM. I couldn't hold a candle to you and I'm much too inferior for a queen such as yourself. Anyways, it's pretty late. Have a good night. I genuinely mean that. I know all of this was pretty harsh and I was definitely being an asshole to you, but I genuinely wish you the best. I hope you find happiness in whatever pursuits you decide to take on. Sorry for everything. Cheers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 07:07 AM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Sure, but are happy and independent women spending all their time bashing men on social media? Wouldn't an HVW be living her own life without spending her precious time and energy thinking about and conversing with LVM on reddit? Why would anyone worth anything expend more than a second thinking about those pests after all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 07:00 AM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Exactly! You shouldn't give a fuck about what these inferior men think. You're a proud, independent woman dammit! Stop wasting time with these cockroaches and get that HVM of your dreams. What are you waiting around for? Get off these damn dating subreddits and off of FDS and live the life that you want. A happy, independent woman certainly has better things to with her time than step on cockroaches after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:54 AM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Nah, they won't want anything to do with you. They might "pump and dump" you depending on how you define high value. But they definitely aren't trying to date you or be anywhere near you. They're probably already in a relationship with an HVW or staying single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:47 AM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yep, and those guys definitely want exactly the same thing with you as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:41 AM |
| 7 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?That's some really Queen behavior right there. I'm sure plenty of HVM won't totally be disgusted by that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:40 AM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I think it's a good thing that you're dropping those guys who ask your sexual history. Saving both of you the trouble. You'd save yourself even more time and get rid of even more low value men by being totally upfront about it from the beginning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:34 AM |
| 7 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?All I'm saying is that you should forget about us loser men on here. What purpose do you have bashing us obviously inferior beings? What purpose do you have trying to get men to stop caring about a woman's past? We're a bunch of obvious losers who can't get laid anyway so why bother with us? You should stick to dating these HVMs you find in your day to day instead of wasting your time with us. Obviously getting into a healthy relationship is so easy for you that you're above it all, right? Who c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:32 AM |
| 6 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Nah, it's one thing to discuss the science of dating. It's another thing entirely to go on reddit and bash men for not wanting to date women who've slept around and bash men in general for having certain standards for their partners. Your post history definitely doesn't read as someone who is totally fine and dandy with being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Then why lie about it? Might as well just say that you don't feel comfortable disclosing your history. Seems to me that you know very well that it matters and that a lot of guys probably wouldn't date you if they knew or if you decided to conceal it from them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:20 AM |
| 13 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?For someone who is really happy being single and doesn't need men, you seem to post an awful lot in dating subreddits and in FDS. Forget about us insecure, misogynistic virgin males who can't get laid. After all, you have plenty of HVM waiting to date you who totally don't mind your sexual history. Enjoy having sex with as many hawt guys on Tinder as you want. They'll sleep with anything and they're so readily available. I mean sure those high N count studs would probably never want to marry you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?They are more desperate for casual sex. Women know that online dating isn't conducive to getting a relationship and look for men in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 05:45 AM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Do you think that if you were honest about your sexual history, you would die alone? Do you feel guilty that your relationships are based in deception? Do you lie to your partner's because you don't truly respect them or care about them enough to tell them the truth? Not attacking, just genuinely curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 05:20 AM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?It's not a mind game. It's the reality of how the world works. People will always try to seek out the best partner that they can get. They will choose their partner based on the options available to them. If a guy sees his partner as beneath him, he is far more likely to "pump and dump" her. Short term hookups are even more influenced by market dynamics in the era of online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 02:49 AM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?League as in "objective attractiveness". Basically how highly someone is rated according to neutral observors. You can figure out how attractive you are by putting up a photo of yourself on hotornot.com with a neutral expression and compare it to someone else using a similar expression. This is what determines your "SMV" so to speak. Looks matter and are probably the single most important objective criteria when choosing a partner. That's no longer the case nowadays with how a lot of women are o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 02:17 AM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?While I agree that emotional intelligence is an important factor in maintain and obtaining relationships, I'm not sure it's neccessarily going to get you someone out of your league. The basic setup on heterosexual dynamics is that the men approach and the women are the passive recipients. Since the risks are higher for women that the man leaves them, it makes more sense for them to wait for sex and have the men approach. This inevitably causes a dynamic where the man is more often than not the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 01:06 AM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?The market is always self-correcting. Eventually those guys will either settle or be perpetually single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?What do you mean by the epiphany phase? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:25 AM |
| 6 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?The dynamics of how people chase the best that they can get and what constitutes the "best" is what is up for discussion. This is what divides TRP and TBP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:15 AM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Jesus, "mate guarding". I mean you are only 21 after all. I think men with any amount of emotional maturity and faith in their partner's character aren't going to be too worried if she's going to cheat on him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)Nah, the research shows that most people are truthful on anonymous survey even when compared to exposure-threat. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/okq7a4/research\_shows\_people\_are\_truthful\_when\_self/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:10 AM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Ah, I see. There is no one nicer than a man trying to get you into bed for the first time. I think if you were to get to know these men better, you'd find that they are deeply flawed men and that one's appearances have little to do with character. Not saying women dont do this too but its a better relationship dynamic bc women tend to be less insecure dating a man “above” her and the man doesnt get emasculated. There are plenty of women in this thread who've admitted that they go for guys less a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)I think a lot of people here are paranoid and spend way too much time on Reddit and on dating apps which skews their perspective. What makes you think that the median is 12? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:56 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I'd hope that if my vetting process is good enough, I'd be able to filter out people who'd lie to me about their sexual history. Personally, I think it's kind of messed up that you're willing to lie to your partners about that. It goes against the concept of informed consent. But if they didn't care to ask you about it or didn't want to know, I guess it wouldn't matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)I'm not sure how representative this sub is. N counts of 40+ just aren't that common unless they've engaged in a lot of casual sex or slept with prostitutes. http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_history_calculator_is_your_number_of_sexual_partners_low_average_or.html The median number of lifetime sexual partners for men is around 6 according to the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:48 PM |
| 21 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?We need generalizations in order to have an actual debate about anything. If the answer to every question about dating was "some are, some aren't", there wouldn't be anything up for discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:37 PM |
| 5 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)15 is still a lot IMO. But yeah, a guy with a high N does show a lack of discernment and an attitude of disposability towards his partners and is likely to have Dark Triad personality traits. But, I was pointing out in general that if a guy with a high N wants a relationship, he may need to make some sacrifices. You personally may not want to date a man with a high N, but there are women out there who are willing to date a man with high N if he is offering something to make up for it. His RMV ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Has your strategy resulted in a serious LTR relationship with a guy who cares about you or do these guys tend to not stick around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I would say that a lot of women on FDS are reformed "sluts" that are looking for a relationship. Which is why they advocate for hiding their sexual history from their partners. I would say that waiting for sex, avoiding OLD, and letting the man do the approaching are things that I agree with wholeheartedly. Mostly those women don't know how to have a healthy relationship and thus need to rely on "dating strategies" in order to get an "HVM" to commit to her. A big problem they have is that they h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 11:18 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Would you say that these women were high quality people? Kinda reminds me of women going to college to get their MRS degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Do you worry about your sexual history being a turn off to most men? I'll be honest, I personally wouldn't want to date somone who is totally okay with sleeping with someone who doesn't find her attractive enough to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:48 PM |
| 4 | Does her history matter? pt.1: Infidelity (tags: n count, body count, sexual past, sexual history, promiscuous, promiscuity)I think what women mean when they say that low n-count women don't want high n-count men is that they don't want to date someone of equal SMV with a high n-count. This means that a high n-count man may have to make some sacrifices if he wants a low n-count woman becauses his RMV has gone down. For example, he might have to sacrifice on appearances or lie about or conceal his bodycount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Ah, so do you have sex very quickly with these men in the hopes of getting commitment from them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:36 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yeah, you should be able to have whatever standard you want, but we should also be realistic about our ability to find someone who meets those standards. I'm assuming that you're using online dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I think women who are okay with casual sex or don't mind getting pumped and dumped are like that. But not all women are into casual sex. The good ones are out there, they just make themselves hard to find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:06 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Ah, I see. Yes, there are a lot of very smart people on this sub with a lot of great insights. There are a lot of trash people on this sub as well if you spend enough time on here. Empathy is in short supply everywhere it seems. I've definitely learned quite a bit by spending time here and a lot of the posts on here are fodder for conversations that I'd have in real life. I'd say the science posts and links to peer-reviewed research are probably the most useful in order to gain objective data. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Oh yeah, women on dating apps are hypergamous af. But, I don't think that's the majority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 09:57 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?You seem like a decent person. We don't get too many of those on this sub. Why are you here, if I might ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 09:37 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?The argument that a lot of guys make is that these women know exactly what they're doing. They try to use easy sex as a way of getting a hotter guy to commit to them. Usually, it doesn't work and then she goes on FDS and complains about it and turns into a "Queen" who deserves an HVM. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 09:29 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?It wouldn't be quick at all. Most guys looking for a relationship try their luck on dating apps before giving up quickly. Guys who stay on their are either masochists who enjoy the pain or guys who hold out hope that a woman on there is realistic enough to go for a guy in her league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 09:15 PM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I had to reprogram quite significantly, but I actually enjoy it much more now compared to my younger years. I'm assuming you mean have a lot of casual sex, right? Yeah, it's definitely easier for women to get sex. A lot of guys will have sex with anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:56 PM |
| 13 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Imagine changing your entire job or lifestyle in order to potentially get a more attractive partner. That seems like pretty low value behavior regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I'm really sorry that happened. A lot of guys just have low self esteem and don't know their market value. How was dating like as a single mother if I might ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 08:27 PM |
| 6 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?You're probably right about that. Anecdotally, it seems like the women who are single moms tend to go for guys out of their league and get dumped afterwards after failing to "baby trap" him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?A lot of guys just want a warm hole tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:29 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I don't think men are complaining when women have high standards for character. Men complain when women chase after some guy who obviously isn't really all that into her and then complain that men are trash when the guy doesn't want to commit. Granted, I don't know how common this situation is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I'm not sure if I believe that some people are wired for monogamy and others aren't. A lot of guys just base their self-worth on their ability to sleep with women and act accordingly and then act like their behavior is the result of "biology" rather than validation-seeking behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:15 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yep, a lot of guys will stick their dick in anything. I think about it this way. If a guy pays for a 10/10 escort and this woman acts like she has amazing chemistry with him and finds him super desirable, and he asks her out on an actual date and she unsurprisingly turns him down, whose fault is that? If you go for women out of your league, you should know what you're signing up for. The same thing with women who "shoot their shot" on dating sites. They should be aware of the risks in engaging i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Dude, I'm just enjoying my Saturday and playing some music. I'm asking you questions because I'm genuinely curious. Sorry if I came off really aggro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 07:00 PM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Why have all your relationships failed, might I ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yeah, I can't seem to agree with that mindset nor do I find it particularly attractive tbh. He still wants his partner to find him attractive, but he may have to sacrifice on that in order to get sex with a woman he finds attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:50 PM |
| 10 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?You're allowed to shoot your shot. Just don't complain about getting "used for sex" or how men are trash when that guy doesn't want to date you. I don't have much sympathy for people getting rejected by people out of their league regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:47 PM |
| 7 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?It's because they know if they openly admit to doing it, guys will run in the opposite direction. They need to gaslight in order to get guys to lower their standards. Literally the vast majority of comments by women here is butthurt about guys not wanting to date promiscuous women. They're terrified of dying alone and so they need to lie and manipulate in order to get a relationship. Even incels have a better chance of getting love after getting some therapy. Promiscuous women will always have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Even if it were true that women are more attractive than men on average, that doesn't say anything about whether or not women are pursuing guys out of their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:26 PM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Are you in a serious committed relationship, or do those guys "out of your league" never seem to stick around? I'll say this, and this true from both men and women, you are the common denominator among all your failed relationships. If nobody is buying what you're selling, then that is a sign that your asking price is too high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:24 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?The market is self-correcting. If you're okay with getting pumped and dumped and are okay with experiencing a lot of turnover, then go for it. A lot of guys will find that behavior and the mentality behind it off-putting though. It's up to you as to what you want to do with that information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?He might have just had really low self-esteem. Plenty of men, especially on dating sites, don't know their market value. Attraction is subjective, looks not so much, especially within a given culture. I think if your ex was in an environment where there were more women than men and suddenly got a lot of attention, it would increase his self-esteem and raise his standards. I agree with your point on people exaggerating or not being honest about their true values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 06:03 PM |
| 4 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Because guys want the hottest girl they can get. Women want the hottest guy they can get. But, there are more women than men looking for relationships and the risk of him "pumping and dumping" you is higher, so it would make sense for women to choose a guy less attractive to increase the likelihood of him sticking around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yeah, women definitely take advantage of the fact that they can get casual sex with hotter guys easily. Why shouldn't men do the same thing when they have the advantage? Life isn't fair and we should accept that people will always look out for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:57 PM |
| 16 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Guys looking for relationships get off of dating apps quickly because the quality is much better in real life. The guys left on there tend to be guys with really low self esteem or guys looking for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Ah my apologies, it's hard to tell over the interwebs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I'm not saying that. He's definitely fucked. Best option he has is to get escorts at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:49 PM |
| 8 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I'm not sure I believe that. People who spend a lot of time on their appearance for a living will fight tooth and nail to preserve their appearances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:47 PM |
| 16 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Leagues don't exist, huh? I should tell my unemployed, obese friend that he can land a rich supermodel if he has enough "game" and confidence. I'm sure he'll definitely thank me and ask "wow, PerceptionTasty1495, why the hell didn't I think about that earlier?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:43 PM |
| 11 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I appreciate your honesty. We don't get that much around here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Yeah, there are definitely men out there that would rather hook up with a bunch of 5s than date a 9. Personally can't relate to that. Also, I don't think that its the majority of men who would do that though. As for shared values, aren't those things you can filter for on dating sites? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:30 PM |
| 13 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Seems like the guy is chasing validation more than he is interested in you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:18 PM |
| 0 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?I think even "hookup guys" would still want to commit to a woman he sees as out of his league. He might her cheat on her or have side chicks though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 05:06 PM |
| 8 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?It's akin to the concept of "efficiency wages" in economics. If you want to reduce turnover, you should pay your employees above market wages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:58 PM |
| 5 | Are women really chasing after guys out of their league?Are you in a serious committed relationship or do those guys never seem to stick around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/21 04:51 PM |
| 0 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Coming from a good family isn't a guarantee that someone is going to turn out great, but coming from a bad family is a pretty good indicator that someone is going to turn out low quality. Exceptions exist, but men who are trying to minimize as much risk as possible and don't mind being single should take these factors into consideration. Would you rather take relationship advice from someone who has had a string of divorces or take relationship advice who is in a very happy marriage? Would you r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?I think it's validating for women who don't understand that a lot of dudes will lower their standards considerably for an easy fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:41 PM |
| 2 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Men shouldn't give a crap about what women who have a vested interest in getting men to lower their standards think about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:31 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?That's an exception not the norm. It's like saying it's better to be taught the wrong answer and then finding out it's wrong than being taught the right answer from the very beginning. It takes time and energy and mentorship to be able to unlearn bad habits and develop healthy mindsets. A woman with a bad home life is a risky investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:30 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Your situation in not the norm. Most women aren't having casual sex because they're "too busy". They have it because they want easy sex with some guy out of their league. This has nothing to do with culture either. Genuine emotional connections tend to not happen during casual sex because the guy sees the woman as beneath him. I personally find the willingness to sleep with someone who sees you as beneath him to be a turnoff. It's just incredibly unattractive imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:20 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?I don't however get the correlation between men buying sex and women engaging in casual sex. Men can also engage in casual sex for the same reasons. Most of the people I worked with in bars were male. A lot of men will sleep with anything. Even "pig woman" can get some dude with a six-pack to sleep with her. Her male equivalent definitely is not getting fitness models to sleep with him. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/ Hell, even escorts hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 01:56 PM |
| 2 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?I don't buy the idea that people have casual sex because they're "too busy to date". That's just an excuse. That's like a guy saying that he sees prostitutes because "he doesn't have time for a relationship". Nah, men see prostitutes because it's readily available and because the women are way hotter than the ones he can get for a relationship. This is exactly the reason why most women engage in casual sex. A relationship just means that you care about someone enough to have them in your life lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 01:08 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?You're on a debate sub ofcourse debate will be happening does it crack you up equally when you see the multiple posts and comments with men doing the same to women? Fair enough, I'll concede your point. The casual for a reason I agree with I just don't agree the only reason it could be is he's out of her league. No, but it usually is. If she's choosing her partners based on chemistry and compatability and if she's deliberately going for guys less attractive than her, it's highly likely that the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 12:47 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?You're talking about lying about or concealing your history. If you're totally OK with lying to your partner or hiding the truth, then that is a huge red flag no matter how you look at it. If you were completely honest about your sexual history, your options are going to dry up pretty quickly. They might get into "relationships" with you for consistent sex and act like your past doesn't matter, but it's less likely that they'll want to marry you. I think it's pretty funny that women feel the nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 12:24 PM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?People who have casual sex don't have "lots of sex", they have less sex with more people. Your willingness to hook up with some random at the bar or at a party has everything to do with impulse control. If you have a history of making poor choices due to being caught up in the moment, that is a huge red flag for any relationship that you might have. Promiscuous people should just accept that they are a riskier bet for a relationship and stop trying to shame people into dating them. If you want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:05 AM |
| 24 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Dating isn't a charity and isn't fair. People are allowed to have whatever standard they want. They just need to be willing to accept that their pool will be smaller as a result of having those standards. It is definitely true that having a poor relationship with one's family is correlated with poor romantic relationships because they don't know what a healthy relationship looks like and how to properly regulate emotions. I would say that women should seriously consider judging men by similar cr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 11:00 AM |
| 1 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?People often cheat out of opportunity and because they have low impulse control. People who live a lifestyle that regularly gives them opportunities to have casual sex are far more likely to take those opportunities than someone who doesn't live that lifestyle. You're far more likely to eat pizza when it's right in front of you than if you had to drive over to thr pizza place yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 10:40 AM |
| 2 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?You're right. Promiscuous women are also much less likely to be honest about their past and will lie to you about it or conceal the truth. But the history itself is still meaningful regardless of whether they choose to hide it. Much like your criminal history is a red flag of whether or not you choose to reveal it during job applications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 10:35 AM |
| 2 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Both of the situations you've laid out are dealbreakers to me, but I never said that n-count was a perfect measurement of worthiness. It's merely a correlation for other problems. I definitely agree that how the n-count was achieved matters far more than number itself. I disagree that n-count under 10 is meaningless. It tells you a lot about quickly it is for someone to find a partner that meets her standards. A lot of times, cheating is about opportunity. A woman that is totally fine with casua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 03:54 AM |
| 3 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?I would say that n-count is always going to be correlated with mental health issues no matter how you look at it. To my knowledge, there is little correlation between a woman's attractiveness and her n count. The difference lies in the composition of her n count. Less attractive women tend to have more casual sex because they try unsuccessfully to get guys out of their league to commit to them or they accept that the only way for them to get with a guy they find attractive is to offer no-strings… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 03:23 AM |
| 2 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?You should make a post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:52 AM |
| 4 | 6 Green Flags in women for a LTR, do you agree?Being a Nazi isn't a red flag according to a Nazi. Even though they are both figuratively and literally waiving around red flags. People with higher n-counts are far more likely to cheat, tend to be less agreeable, don't care if their partner finds them attractive enough to date, much more likely to have had dysfunctional relationships, and far more likely to lack empathy for the opposite gender. There is absolutely zero advantage in choosing someone with 20 sexual partners from casual sex over … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 02:37 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?He has a PhD in Science. Which one you might ask? All of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 05:31 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?Because someone might end up punching you in the face and you probably wouldn't have many friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?Most men can get casual sex and can rack up a high N. It's a matter of how low your standards are and your lifestyle than anything else. I never said that most guys are going to rack up high body counts. I'm saying that they have the ability to do so under the right circumstances. You won't be able to sleep with 100 women a year if you only come into contact with 3 new people a year. It doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. If an average man's success rate at a party is 10% per approach, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:35 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?Wow, I seriously doubt you'd talk like that in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:24 PM |
| 0 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?My argument was that you don't need to look like a male model to have casual sex and rack up a high N count. If you're attractive enough that most people see you as at least "cute" then you're not gonna have much trouble getting casual sex in the right environment where there is a lot of alcohol going around and have low standards. Most men have had casual sex. It's not that hard to be a "7" assuming you dress well and you're relatively fit. Most men I know racked up high N during college or gra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:20 PM |
| 0 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?Wow, that's just rude. BTW, I'm a guy and I've had my fair share of casual sex. Most of the dudes that I know who slept around (not on dating apps) were attractive but weren't models or anything. They were like a solid 7. Attractive enough that a lot of people can look at them and say that he's cute, but not like smoking hot or anything. They were just willing to sleep with anything that presented itself and partied a shit ton. They had a reputation for being "good in bed" as well. This was all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 03:27 PM |
| -3 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?A lot of times guys aren't upfront about wanting casual sex. They act like they want a relationship or they get into "relationships" that last a few months and they spend a lot of time and energy approaching women. Do that enough times and eventually you can rack up a really high body count. Doesn't hurt to cheat on your partner as well. It's a lot easier to rack up high N counts if you're willing to throw morality out the window. You're probably referring to the guys who are honest about wantin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 02:51 PM |
| 24 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?He probably has a lot of free time to be able to devote towards chasing women that men with normal lives don't have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 02:46 PM |
| 0 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?Most men can get casual sex and can rack up a high N. It's a matter of how low your standards are and your lifestyle than anything else. Most dudes with high N aren't studs so much as normal guys who are willing to lower their standards considerably for casual sex or do some really unethical things in order to get sex. The phrase "dick is abundant and low value" exists for a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Does "hookup culture" benefit men more?Nah, I got that. I'm just having trouble understanding how a certain percentage of women hooking up with dudes out of their league on Tinder is gonna cause a widespread collapse of critical infrastructure and contributing to the military industrial complex as well as sow the seeds of World War 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 04:10 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I can't really relate to that. I wasn't much of a partier and I was never really interested in small talk. I've always tried to find a partner that I genuinely enjoyed being around because I found it impossible to relate to the party girls that populated my college campus without copious amounts of alcohol. I was much too nerdy for that. I'm not sure if the example you gave is the result of deliberate decision-making rather than men maturing and learning to see women as complete human beings. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 05:02 AM |
| 0 | Does "hookup culture" benefit men more?What | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 02:44 AM |
| – | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?lmao dude that shit was hilarious | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 02:16 AM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I get what you're saying. Personally, I'm against casual sex because my experiences with it were not good and I don't like treating people as disposable. I don't want to be with a woman who thinks that casual sex is perfectly acceptable and I don't want to be with a woman who feels like I'm somehow a downgrade from her previous partners. I guess I'm just super paranoid that I'll end up being "settled" for because of my experiences being on dating apps. The women that I come into contact with in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 12:18 AM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I mean leagues definitely exist. I don't think anyone can realistically deny that there are people who are more attractive than others and that good looking people tend to end up with other good looking people. It still doesn't feel great to know that my partner will probably never look at me the same way she did at the guy who she slept with casually and would have jumped at a relationship offer with him. It sucks and I know isn't rational, but it is what it is. I understand that being hot and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 06:41 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I hope I can be like that someday. I wish I could get to the point where I can date someone who hooked up with a bunch of guys out of her league who saw her as beneath him and feel okay about that. Unfortunately, I'm just not there yet. I get literal panic attacks at the thought of it. It doesn't help that most of the women who engage in that behavior tend to not be very empathetic people, so it's really hard to forgive them. I try the best I can though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I personally don't agree with the idea that you should conceal stuff from your partner. You should know exactly when you're getting into. If the past didn't matter, people wouldn't try to conceal it from their partners or go out of their way to avoid knowing their partner's history. If you genuinely don't care about the past, that's awesome. I'm just not that strong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 01:55 AM |
| 3 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?No, I just feel a type of way about women who hook up with guys of their league and then complain about men not wanting to date them as if these women were super emotionally stable themselves and didn't have insecurities themselves. You can see this in the way they don't want to date men who sleep with escorts. You can see this in the way they don't want guys to watch porn. It's all just a huge amount of hypocrisy and they're willfully ignorant to it. I would never date a woman who let herself b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 09:29 PM |
| 3 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Look, you can justify it all you want. But there are a lot of people who are going to be turned off that you were willing to sleep with someone who didn't find you attractive enough to date. Plus, the whole treating people as a walking dildo thing is a turnoff to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 09:25 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?But, what if he tried to hide his past? What if he tried to convince you that there was nothing wrong with his sexual history and that you're being unreasonable? What if every man who acted this way had a strong incentive to hide their past from you and it was very difficult to tell which was which? Would you feel paranoid that you might end up being "settled" for? Or would you do everything in your power to avoid being in a relationship like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 08:59 PM |
| 3 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I don't think misogyny (or racism, antisemitism, homophobia, etc) should go unchallenged. If left alone it festers and grows and eventually laws change and you have full blown Nazis making the rules and gunning down any woman that wants to have free choice. Trying to deradicalize incels, huh? I'll admit, I'm not that heroic. But, I don't think that is what the majority of women on this sub are here to do. It seems like the vast majority of people here are more concerned with lashing out at men a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 08:10 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Then why the hell do you engage? What is the point of doing it? If you're legitimately here to help these men get into healthy relationships with women, then that's fantastic. However, this isn't what I see from the women here on PPD. It seems like PPD is largely composed of highly sadistic women who want a target to lash out at. Most of these women have never been in a healthy relationship in their entire lives and want a place where they can safely vent their frustrations against the male gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 07:05 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?"Short-term commitment" is an oxymoron. I think what you meant is short-term monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:52 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I don't go around bashing women on FDS for being "pathetic losers". I've got better things to do with my time. I come here because I'm interested in dating dynamics and gender politics. You don't need to actively engage with that community to figure out what their game is. A simple perusing of the TRP/incel/FDS handbook will suffice. There were several threads asking women why they stick around on PPD, and the most common response was "entertainment" and "sadistic pleasure". As you can see in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:45 PM |
| 3 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Not disagreeing with that, but you're telling me you wouldn't feel a type of way at all about being in that situation? If you're being completely honest with yourself and can say with a straight face that you would be totally fine with being in a relationship with a man like that, then I applaud you. I'm personally not that strong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:32 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I'm just wondering how happy these relationships are. Normal women who have happy relationships don't go on Reddit and take sadistic pleasure at seeing incels and young men struggle with dating. "Relationship" doesn't really mean much anyways, a lot of guys will overlook a lot of red flags for consistent sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:29 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I'll give you an analogy. Let's say a man slept with a bunch of 10/10 high-end escorts and supermodel-looking women who were way out of his league and wouldn't have given give him the time of day under normal circumstances. He would have jumped to have a relationship with any of these women if they had offered. Since he couldn't get any of them to commit, he had to lower his standards and "settle" for someone in his league for a relationship. He consoles you by saying that he loves your personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:24 PM |
| 4 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I think men tend to exaggerate exactly how many women they find attractive and women tend to underplay how many men they find attractive. Men and women talk about two different things when they discuss who they find attractive. When men say "attractive", they mean attractive enough to sleep with. When women say "attractive", they mean attractive enough to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:19 PM |
| 2 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Also, have you ever been in a serious LTR? There is a huge difference between having sex with 1 partner who is really attracted to you and cares about you vs having sex with 100 dudes who don't give a shit about you and would never date you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Would you say that men who sleep with escorts tend to be less empathetic and compassionate? He's willing to use someone as a walking fleshlight and doesn't care about whether or not she's attracted to him. I don't really see much of a difference in the mentality of women who are willing to have sex with dudes who are willing to lower their standards considerably when looking for an easy fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 06:06 PM |
| -3 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Plenty of "hot guys" have low self-esteem, especially if they're on dating sites and obsess over their appearance. People don't take steroids if their lives are going super well. It's really hard on your self-esteem to constantly compare yourself to other super hot guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:45 PM |
| 0 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?It seems like a lot of women, especially on PPD, don't really seem to care much about whether or not their partner finds them all that attractive. I wonder if a lot of these women would sleep with escorts if they turned into heterosexual men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?What if a woman has a bunch of partners that were all fantastic in bed and she knows and can communicate exactly what she likes to you? You don't really need to sleep with a ton of partners in order to communicate what you want in bed. Again, a woman in a relationship almost certainly has way more sex with a more enthusiastic partner than a woman having casual sex. She probably knows what she likes sexually by being very comfortable with the same partner. Women who sleep around tend to have a bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:38 PM |
| 19 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?Sad, but true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:25 PM |
| 5 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?It's not that all men will sleep with anything. It's that a lot of guys will sleep with anything. Even "pig woman" can get a dude with a six-pack to sleep with her. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:23 PM |
| 0 | How do you feel about knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything?I'm pretty sure women in relationships have way more sex than women who have casual sex. It's not about the quantity of sex, it's your choice in partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Yeah, I think you're right about it happening to women regardless of their weight. I asked this because I'm terrified of being settled for by a woman who slept around with a bunch of guys "out of her league". It's honestly one of my worst fears, and I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than ever be in that situation. I think the closest analogy I can think of that women can relate to is being "settled" for by a guy who slept around with very conventionally attractive prostitutes. How com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/21 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Thank you. This was definitely a very informative response. Yeah, it definitely seems like everywhere you look, there are a lot of entitled people. How common would you say that "pumping and dumping" is in real life? Do most women realize what the reason is that the guy doesn't want to commit? I know that overweight women are way more likely to experience this. How does this affect how you go about dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/21 09:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.I'd spend some time thinking about the correlates of promiscuity. If you know what to look for, you can reduce the odds of being in a relationship with someone who is promiscuous. Women have a very high incentive to lie or conceal their n-count, so you're going to have to do some guesswork in order to figure it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/i2kcs9/what_are_some_signs_a_woman_has_a_high_n_count/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 03:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.If a potential partner told you that he slept with a bunch of women way out of his league and none of them wanted to date him, but now he's interested in dating you because he's looking for a "stable" partner, how would you feel about that? Would you be totally cool with that or would you do everything in your power to avoid being in that situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:17 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.I guess this makes sense. Women who enjoy casual sex can get guys way out of their league casually, while they kind of have to settle for their equal for a relationship. I can imagine that you'd get a similar result among men who enjoy sleeping with escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 03:31 AM |
| 38 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.That's like saying that a dude with a high sex drive is more likely to have sex with an escort. I'm sure there is a weak correlation, but your willingness to fuck an escort says way more about your psychology around sex than it does about how many times you want to get off. Plenty of women around the world don't have casual sex. Do they all have "low sex drives"? Nah, your willingness to sleep with some dudebro off of Tinder says way more about how you see sex and how risk averse you are than ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 02:31 AM |
| 82 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.I think the whole idea that women who have higher body counts have "higher sex drives" is kind of bullshit. If a woman doesn't like the idea of fucking random strangers or having sex without knowing for sure that the guy is attracted to her enough to date her, it doesn't say anything about how many orgasms she wants per week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 02:09 AM |
| 15 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.You're entitled to have whatever standard you want regardless of how "hypocritical" it is. As long as you treat people who have high n-counts with respect, it doesn't matter. Nobody has the right to tell you who you should or shouldn't date. However, you should be realistic about your ability to find a partner that meets your standards. It is totally reasonable to not want to date a woman that had a bunch of casual sex with dudes out of her league. Most women wouldn't want to be in that situatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:57 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.People can whatever standard they want regardless of how hypocritical it is. It's just a matter of how realistic those standards are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.If his standard is "my partner should only have sex with men who found her attractive enough to date", then there isn't a double standard. Casual sex for men and casual sex for women are completely different experiences. Casual sex for women is more similar to what a man experiences when he sees an escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:42 AM |
| 18 | CMV: Men who don’t want promiscuous women shouldn’t be seen as “misogynistic” or “slut shaming”.I think that people should be allowed to have whatever standard they want. It's just a matter of whether those standards are realistic. If a high n-count man feels a type of way about a high n-count woman hooking up with guys out of her league, it is within his right to not want to date her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 01:36 AM |
| 2 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultI can't speak for the average man. But, I know for a fact that most incels don't actually want sex. They want the validation that they're fuckable. This is why most of them will tell you to fuck off if you tell them to have sex with an escort. I don't agree with incel ideology and the misogyny within that community, but its almost honorable that so many of them would rather die a virgin than have sex with an escort. The reason why they complain so much is that they believe that casual sex for wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 01:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultYou don't know anything about me. I'd sleep with her if I knew for sure she was attracted to me. I don't want to sleep with an escort because I don't want to risk sleeping with someone who isn't attracted to me. It's not about the money. If the brothel suddenly said that anyone can sleep with a prostitute for free, I'm still not going to do it. I'm objectively attractive, probably like a 7 or 8 but I know that there are plenty of people who aren't attracted to me. I'm not really interested in ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 02:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultA prostitute is paid to focus on your pleasure so if I had to choose between a woman out of my league who wasn't attracted to me and had no incentive to make sure I enjoyed it, vs. an escort, I would choose an escort. The only real advantages of choosing the woman you can get for free in this situation is the plausible deniability that she finds you attractive and not paying money. But you can pretty much convince yourself of anything if you want to so the plausible deniability isn't worth much … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 01:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultA male escort is probably safer and less risky than sleeping with Chad on Tinder. I wouldn't want my partner to engage in either, but if I had to choose, I'd rather that she slept with a male escort than sleep with Chad because at least he's more likely to treat her with respect and put effort into making sure she gets off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 01:50 AM |
| 1 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultI've seen some really unattractive women get guys who were objectively like 8s. I think guys have to subtract 3-4 points for casual sex if he's being honest about wanting casual sex. The math breaks down the more attractive the guy is, at which point status matters more. You'd have to be in "giga Chad" territory in order to consistently sleep with 10s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultIt's more of a validation thing. A lot of guys have low self esteem and many guys are looking for a warm hole. It all feels the same when the lights are out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 12:26 AM |
| 5 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultThere's honestly no point in arguing with these people. If someone wants to believe that the escort that they're paying to sleep with him actually finds him attractive, he's going to hamster himself into believing it. It's pretty much the same deal with women and casual sex. It's all a fantasy at the end of the day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 12:13 AM |
| 11 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultSaying that attractiveness is completely subjective is denying people's lived realities. While I agree that assortive mating becomes less prevalent as the familiarity effect takes over, I don't think anyone who isn't completely delusional believes that everyone can be a 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 10:18 PM |
| 20 | CMV:women are not more attractive than men, by defaultI remember a thread a while ago saying that casual sex for women is like prostitution for men. Even the least attractive woman can get some dude with a six-pack to fuck her off of dating apps. The ones who aren't completely delusional are well aware that they aren't special and that the dudes that they're sleeping with would never date them. The only difference is that men need to pay to have sex with someone way out of their league and women don't. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 09:47 PM |
| 1 | How realistic is the RP view of female nature and attractionOh, sorry I wasn't trying to insult you. Just trying to back up your argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 09:32 PM |
| 1 | How realistic is the RP view of female nature and attractionYeah, there are plenty of men on dating apps who are willing to sleep with anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 09:28 PM |
| 0 | The narrative that young women not ‘settling down’ is the sole thing causing young men to be sexless/single is not trueI don't see how that's relevant. People can enjoy a service, yet not want to date the people providing that service. Would you want to date a janitor or someone working in a dangerous occupation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 01:18 AM |
| 1 | The narrative that young women not ‘settling down’ is the sole thing causing young men to be sexless/single is not trueIt's pretty much undeniable that women have an easier time getting casual sex. You even said it yourself and FDS is very clear about how "dick is abundant and low value". A woman can easily sleep with a guy way out of her league on dating apps due to the gender imbalance and the fact that men have far less to lose when engaging in casual sex with random strangers which causes women to get inundated with matches. Regardless of whether there is a "sexlessness epidemic", these facts are indisputabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 12:41 AM |
| 0 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.It's probably not great for your mental health to constantly be in denial like that even when I showed you proof that guys will sleep with women far less attractive than them. I know this because I used to convince myself the "women are wonderful" and aren't hooking up with Chad on Tinder. Women on this thread are openly admitting that they hook up with guys way out of their league on Tinder. I don't know what else to tell you to change your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.There is an abundance of studies showing that men have far lower standards for casual sex than women and that women can get far more matches than men. I don't think that most fat men are able to sleep with fitness models the same way that women can. If there is an untapped pool of hot women willing to sleep with below-average guys, I certainly couldn't find it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Unfortunately, there's a lot of people who haven't realized that men will fuck anything though, so it takes women a while to figure out that the guys that she can get sex with aren't the same guys she can get commitment from. There are examples of this within this very thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.A much higher percentage would meet Miss Piggy than Mr. Piggy. Chances are those men who are meeting Miss Piggy are quite conventionally attractive. Even if it's a 1% match rate, the sheer volume alone would guarantee that Miss Piggy never runs out of dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Does having sex “early” ruin everything?If a guy acts really interested in a woman and suddenly goes cold or ghosts after sex, then it's highly likely that he was just future-faking in order to get laid. What you're describing is definitely a real thing, but I don't think it's applicable in this situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 04:10 AM |
| 23 | Does having sex “early” ruin everything?To be perfectly honest with you, they probably had no intention of dating you in the first place. A lot of guys will say and do whatever it takes to get laid and it doesn't necessarily mean that he finds you particularly attractive. If he sees you as beneath him, he isn't going to want a relationship with you. If he saw you as out of his league or his equal, he would probably try to lock you down really quickly. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.24384… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I'm honestly really sorry that this happened to you. I wish someone had taught you this stuff earlier. If your goal is a relationship, you should probably stick to meeting men in real life and wait to have sex, and make sure that they approach you. I'm not gonna mince words here, but most guys will feel incredibly threatened by your past. It's like the equivalent of a guy telling you he slept with a bunch of escorts who were way out of his league. Just do the best you can to make sure that your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 03:19 AM |
| 7 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Jesus Christ. I honestly don't even how to respond to this. You realize that a lot of guys will fuck anything right? There are plenty of men on this sub who've had casual sex and pretty much all of them will readily admit that acted like they were more attracted to a woman than they really were. I've had casual sex and I've done exactly that. It's all an act to get laid. If these guys were really all that interested in you, they would have wanted to commit to you. If he ghosted you after sex, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.To be fair, people don't really need to have a very accurate estimate of their SMV. If a woman sticks to dating men in real life, waits to have sex, and lets men approach her, it's not likely for her to get pumped and dumped. It's only when you don't do those things that the odds of it happening are much higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 02:15 AM |
| 0 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Look up "pig woman experiment". There are guys with 6 packs willing to sleep with even the most hideous women if she makes herself easy enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/21 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Latest stats on sexlessnessI think the problem is less so that you're not into him. It's more so that he's not into you. I don't mean that as insult. It's really easy for a woman to get a super conventionally attractive guy for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.To be honest, this is just gonna have to be something that you're going to have accept if you've engaged in casual sex before. Most guys will feel a type of way if you slept with a guy really quickly and make them wait. They have good reason to believe that the guy you slept with casually is probably more attractive than them. A woman would have much the same reaction if a guy told her that he used to sleep with escorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 11:14 PM |
| 5 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.A lot of guys are chasing validation and have really low self-esteem. It's not really about the sex, it's about being wanted. Unfortunately, there are a lot of women out there who exploit that whether they realize it or not. It's really not much different than seeing a hooker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 10:22 PM |
| 4 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Women don't need to approach on dating apps and guys are willing to put on a good show for easy sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 10:16 PM |
| 7 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I think most people, male or female, find it a turnoff if you're willing to have sex with someone who sees you as beneath them and would never date you. Most women don't want to date a man who sees escorts for this exact reason. You're just doing the female equivalent of having sex with an escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Oh for sure. Men definitely can get much better quality in real life. However, women in real life tend to want relationships rather than casual sex. Online dating has had the effect of dramatically reducing the barriers to entry for casual sex for women. It gave them the ability to sleep with a guy with a six-pack independent of what they look like themselves. It was an incredible innovation that leveled the playing field for women while introducing a ton of competition for men that wouldn't hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Do you think that those women who get pumped and dumped genuinely believe the things that they tell themselves, or do they know deep down what the real reason is for why those guys didn't stick around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 09:42 PM |
| 5 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I think this is the main issue that I have with the body positivity movement. There seems to be a push for fat women to be accepted by society, but no equivalent push for fat men to be accepted. It seems very hypocritical when an overweight woman starts acting like a "queen" and says that she deserves a 6'2" guy with a six-pack and acts like she's too good to be with a fat guy. Throw in online dating which enables pretty much any woman to match with this kind of guy for casual sex and you get th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.A lot of the ideas on PPD originated from observing online dating. The idea that "men will sleep with anything" was the result of what happens when you have very severe gender disparities on dating sites. https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/ It's definitely true that there plenty of women getting pumped and dumped by men who are their market equivalent. I think the fixation with Chad is more to underscore the point that guys who are much less li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 09:12 PM |
| 7 | How do you answer, “what do you bring to the table?”Yeah, the question isn't really meant to be taken literally. It's a snarky retort if nothing else lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Would you say that women 20 years ago were warier of chasing after a more conventionally attractive man? When did women start vigorously fighting the notion that guys out of your league are way more likely to "pump and dump" you? Was the belief that "men will sleep with anything" more or less prevalent back then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 08:28 PM |
| 15 | Latest stats on sexlessnessYeah, guys will definitely sleep with anything off of dating apps. Even "pig woman" can get some dude with a six-pack to sleep with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.To be honest, that largely just stems from the insecurity that these "fuckboys" were more attractive than him and he's being settled for. It's definitely true that women can get more conventionally attractive men for casual sex than for relationships so this isn't an unreasonable fear. I think much of men's anxieties about being made to wait would be assuaged if women did more to make sure that their partner knew that she found him attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I agree that going out of your way to tear people down is pretty fucked up. But, I do think that we all need someone to give us a reality check when things aren't going our way. If an obese guy is sitting around complaining that the model-looking girls aren't giving him the time of day, men should set him straight and be honest with him. If a woman is repeatedly getting pumped and dumped on dating apps, women should be honest with her and tell her she is going for guys out of her league/ chasing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I appreciate your honesty. I think we should be completely honest about we bring to the table. The obsession that society has with "confidence" does more harm than good. We should teach self-acceptance instead of trying to delude ourselves that we are better than we really are. If you manage to get lucky, we shouldn't see that as indicative of our value but instead see it as just what it is - luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:26 PM |
| 10 | Latest stats on sexlessnessIf that's true, then why do we see these yearly fluctuations? Wouldn't feminism make women less willing to conceal their sexual history in recent years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Latest stats on sexlessnessThis is really interesting. The question is why was there such a big gap in male and female sexlessness that has largely reversed itself? Did women suddenly figure out that "Chad" on Tinder will sleep with anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I suppose one way we can determine it is by using Google Ngram info or compare subreddit sizes and make an educated guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.It's less about specifically saying "where have all the good men gone?" and more about the general belief that men these days aren't willing to commit and that casual sex is always a situation in which women are the victim. It's more about the lack of honest introspection on part of the author about the reason why several of the men she's been on dates with did not want to commit to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.It's honestly really sad. It's a lot like the type of guy who believes that if he has enough "game" and confidence, he can get a model looking woman. At some point, you're bound by your fundamentals. Charm and confidence can't overcome the realities of the market for very long. A great personality can only get you someone with a similiarly great personality. It can't really get you a model when you're obese. Any success had was less the result of game but rather the willingness to accept a lot o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Would you say that the women over at FDS are just talking a big game as well? Do you think they really believe that they deserve a top tier man or are they just fronting to make themselves sound like hot stuff? Do you think that most of them are actually well aware of what their market value is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.I guess my question is do women actually buy into that stuff that "everyone is beautiful" or is it all just feel-good tripe that everyone says but no one really believes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 06:20 PM |
| 7 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Yeah, I would definitely agree with you that female delusion is a lot more prevalent in mainstream spaces. But I guess that would mean that female delusion has become common enough that it has been accepted into the mainstream in a way that male delusion isn't. It could very well mean that female delusion is more socially accepted and prevalent because of "you go girl" feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 06:17 PM |
| 6 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.So I guess the question is, is this behavior delusional or aspirational? Do these women realize they're going out of their league or do they genuinely believe that they deserve Chad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Are women more entitled than men when it come to dating?How do women determine if a man has choices? Do they base it on the praise of other women in their social circle? Do they base it on perceived value due to attractiveness and personality? I suppose the easiest way to know if a man is "settling" is if he puts in a ton of effort into finding a partner and doesn't seem happy being single and if he doesn't seem enthusiastic about his partner. I suppose that might put women in a bind. If she chooses a guy who is too good looking, it might be that he'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 02:04 PM |
| 8 | Are women more entitled than men when it come to dating?How does knowing that a lot of men will sleep with anything and settle for their partners affect how women act? I can only imagine that it would make a lot of women wary of choosing men on dating apps for fear of desperation on the man's part. Men are generally terrified of being the "stable choice" of women who've slept around with guys who would never commit to them. What do think the female equivalent of this is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 12:13 PM |
| 0 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?Men need to stop basing their self worth on how many women they sleep with. Women need to be taught that men will sleep with anything and that attention on dating apps doesn't necessarily mean that he finds you particularly attractive or interesting. Men need to be more comfortable being vulnerable about their thoughts and emotions with other men and their partners. Men need to be taught that you can be happy being single and that a relationship is not the end all be all of life Legalize, regula… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 12:01 PM |
| 2 | QFW: Does penis size is taken into account for judging a man to be HVM or not?I completely agree with everything you wrote. The path that is the Red Pill leads to nothing but misery. A lot of young men get sucked into it because they think they need to act and look a certain way in order to get validation that they're attractive from women. Its heartbreaking to be honest. A lot of these men are afraid of genuine vulnerability and have never been in a healthy relationship with someone who truly cared about them. They're chasing after sex when really they just want to feel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Congratulations on not getting pumped and dumped. No, most guys can get casual sex. They just don't want to drop 3-4 points off their standards in order to get it. Hence, why they pay for an escort. If you're willing to sleep with someone who sees you as beneath him and would never date you, I don't see how you're much different than a dude who sleeps with an escort, anyway. The only difference is that if women want to sleep with a guy out of their league, they can do for it free. Men need to pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?What escort is going to tell you that she sees you as beneath her? Nobody says shit like that out loud. It's on you as the participant to figure out using common sense whether the person you're sleeping with sees you as beneath them. If this person ghosts you after sex or would never date you, that is a pretty clear sign that you're going for dudes out of your league. If this person is way hotter than any of the guys who've offered you commitment, then it's highly likely that he wouldn't have gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] it is impossible for an unattractive male to be happy romantically.Compared to women, men were also more willing to form a serious relationship with prospective partners of low physical attractiveness, but only if the prospective partner possessed other desirable qualities (e.g., “This person is kind to strangers.”; “This person dresses well.”). Importantly, women’s lack of interest in physically unattractive people appeared to be insensitive to mating context. This supports past findings that women also value physical attractiveness in their mates (Li and Kenr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 03:56 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] it is impossible for an unattractive male to be happy romantically.https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-020-00152-2 I think this is it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?That's a really good question. Are there more women who don't care that their partner is very attracted to them than men? I think the issue is that a lot of women will try to convince themselves that the man that they can easily get off of dating apps is at least somewhat attracted to them. There's a lot of women who don't realize that a lot of guys will sleep with anything, especially on dating apps. If women were taught from day one that a lot of guys will sleep with anything and it doesn't ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?You wanna do the honors? I can't set up a post asking men because there's a rule against making question posts towards people of the same gender as you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/21 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Because not all men are willing to sleep with anything. The guys who take interest in you in real life and approach you are probably way more likely to be attracted to you than the dudes on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Because guys are willing to sleep with anything. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/onj3oq/women_should_do_the_pig_woman_experiment_on/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I know it's not the same. Men and women experience the world differently. But the mentality around it and the willingness to have sex with someone who isn't that into you is the same. I personally would not have sex with someone who sees me as beneath her and isn't that attracted to me. That sounds like a pretty terrible experience to me. You're free to choose whatever guy that you want for whatever reasons you'd like, but a big part of sex for me is knowing that my partner is very attracted to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Damn, that's some really morbid shit. Do you see men as people and would you describe yourself as a very empathetic and compassionate person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 02:48 AM |
| 4 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Guys who pay for escorts know those women wouldn’t touch them with a 10ft pole without the money. Not necessarily. Escorts are women just like anyone else. It's just that her standards are a lot lower because she's being paid to have sex. If a guy wants to have sex with someone way out his league who would never date him, he's gotta pay for it. Women can do the same thing for free. If I find them really hot and I’m not looking for anything past casual why would I care if he really finds me that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Nah, a lot of dudes will sleep with anything for casual sex. I think most people would rather date someone in their league for a relationship than date someone who was out of their league but wasn't that attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 12:54 AM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?What would you do in this situation if the genders were flipped? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/21 12:07 AM |
| 5 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I think you have me confused for someone else. I don't believe in the alpha/beta dichotomy and I don't really have any sinister ulterior motives. Incels don't really want sex. They want the validation that they're fuckable. This is why a lot of them will tell you to fuck off if you suggest that they go see an escort. Idk, if a guy sees a woman as good enough to fuck but not good enough to commit to, it probably means that he feels like he can do better than her, or maybe he just believes that no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 11:56 PM |
| 7 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I would choose the slightly less attractive woman who is enthusiastic. I don't want to sleep with someone who isn't really into it and I especially don't want to sleep with someone who sees me as beneath her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 11:37 PM |
| 7 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Idk, it seems like the vast majority of women in this thread would rather choose the regular guy who's really into them over the super hot guy who isn't for casual sex. I personally would rather choose the slightly less attractive woman who is really into me over the super hot woman who isn't that into me. If it really was just about physical appearances and how "good in bed" she is, I would go see an escort. But I really don't want to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 11:35 PM |
| 9 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Same reason why a guy would choose a less attractive woman who was really into him over a 10/10 escort who wasn't. People want to feel desired regardless of whether it's casual or not. It's not about how technically skilled someone is in bed. It's about how they feel when they have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 11:32 PM |
| 10 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Ah, the queen of Pink Pill has arrived. I'm honored. Also, good job on the website btw, it's very informative. I didn't say that all women who sleep with Chad lack self-awareness. There are plenty of women who know exactly what they are doing and know that the guy that they sleep with on Tinder is way out of their league and would never date them. I'm talking about the section of women who continuously using dating sites and go for guys out of their league and turn around and say "Where have all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I'd say that most people want to be sure that their partner finds them desirable before having sex. But hey, you do you. I'm sure plenty of guys who see escorts see it the same way as you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Where did I say that testosterone doesn't increase sex drive? I never disagreed with the notion that making casual sex easier would increase casual sex. I simply disagreed with the notion that men have an inherently higher sex drive than women and that having a high sex drive would necessarily lead men to want more casual sex. If casual sex was safer and more pleasurable for women, there would be more women engaging in casual sex as well. Most men can easily get sex as well. It's called going to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 10:37 PM |
| 0 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I don't go for women who obviously would never date me and see me as beneath them. I go for women I'm attracted to, but I'm not dumb enough to believe that the 10/10 escort would be willing to date me if asked. I said within this post that I'd rather hook up with the woman who is less attractive but enthusiastic rather than the woman who feels like she's doing me a favor. Plus, I don't subscribe to the whole Alpha/Beta nonsense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I'm not disagreeing with: A large body of evidence suggests that men experience sexual desire more strongly and more frequently than do women Read further into the abstract. It says: We conclude that sexual desire emerges similarly in women and men and that other factors may influence the observed gender difference in sexual desire. So factors that are inherently gendered such as testosterone levels do not explain the discrepancy. Jeez, do you call everyone you disagree with a flat-earther? A li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Hmm, so feeling desired doesn't really factor much into how good the sex is for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:47 PM |
| 16 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Yeah, I think the problem is a lot of women don't realize that a lot of guys on Tinder lower their standards for casual sex and "play the relationship game" as you say. It gives them kind of an inflated self-assessment of their own value. I chalk it up to a general lack of self-awareness and lack of critical thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?That's really wholesome. You just made my day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:24 PM |
| 6 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I found a study that says there isn't much difference between men and women after controlling for social attitudes towards casual sex. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-014-0027-5 Even if testosterone did increase sex drive, that doesn't necessarily mean that men would suddenly go have lots of casual sex with random strangers. It could just manifest as wanting to get off more often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:22 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I don't think most super hot guys who have casual sex would make it obvious that he sees you as beneath him. He knows that if he wants to get laid, he has to act the part. It usually manifests in him not really putting much effort into contacting you or ghosting you after sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?So if the question changed to "most attractive" instead of "hottest", which one would you choose? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:04 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I'm not sure that I buy the idea that men truly have higher sex drives. I think a lot of the behavior that we see from men in the form of "higher sex drive" is really just validation-seeking. I used to base my self-worth on how many women I slept with and used to spend a lot of time on dating apps. Once, I stopped trying to seek validation through casual sex, I didn't really care as much anymore and would rather get off on my own than seek casual sex on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Oh, I just assumed that casual sex in this situation largely revolved around physical attractiveness, so "hotness" would be a relevant factor. I guess I should have reworded the question as "most attractive" instead of "hottest". Would you feel differently about the situation then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Oh, I see what you mean. I guess when I meant "hottest", I meant "most attractive to him". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?The question was to prove a point that I don't believe that most women would prefer Chad over a regular guy for casual sex granted that she knew that the regular guy was really attracted to her. I don't believe that women are inherently less shallow than men either. I do think that women have more to lose by choosing a guy solely on appearances though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:41 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I'm really sorry that you see yourself that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I appreciate your honesty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:33 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I'm really sorry that you see yourself that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:31 PM |
| 6 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Tbh I don't think it really benefits men much either. A lot of people use sex as a way to validate themselves and are willing to put themselves through some awful sex in order to get that validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:28 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?How does being "the hottest woman he's been with" equal being idealized and pedestalized? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:23 PM |
| 8 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Never said he "worshipped" you or put you on a pedestal. Just a guy who thought you were the most attractive woman he has been with. I don't really see it as much deeper than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I guess it kind of depends on the type of guys you're interacting with. I don't think a less attractive guy is gonna resent you unless he thinks that you're unattractive, which isn't in the scope of the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I definitely agree that people will try to rationalize sleeping with a dude out of their league by trying to convince themselves that "leagues don't exist". I don't think they truly believe that though. People want the best they can get, but if the "best" comes with abuse or resentment or feelings of disappointment, then I think most people would rather have sex with someone who sees them as an equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Again, I never said that you didn't find the slightly less objectively attractive guy attractive. In this hypothetical scenario, your options are a guy who is slightly less objectively attractive than you that you still find attractive or a guy way out of your league who saw you as beneath him. Which one would you choose? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:05 PM |
| 0 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I can definitely understand the novelty thing. Plenty of guys might sleep with an escort during a trip to Amsterdam for the novelty. You'd definitely have to lack self-awareness of your own value to think that dude with a six-pack on Tinder would actually see you as an equal though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 08:02 PM |
| 5 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Wow, having sex with a slightly less objectively attractive guy is really that bad of a choice? Would it change anything if you were attracted to him but not as attracted to him as the guy out of your league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Thank you! I don't really understand how someone could sleep with someone who'd just ghost them afterward. It just sounds like really shitty sex and a terrible experience overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I would much rather have casual sex with a woman who was slightly less attractive than me objectively and was enthusiastic about it than have sex with a 10/10 who saw herself as doing me a favor by sleeping with me. Would you act differently or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:51 PM |
| 6 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Would you accept the less attractive guy if you were attracted to him, but less so than the guy out of your league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:49 PM |
| 10 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?I've seen women do this, they just try to rationalize it away by pretending like he was actually interested in her and "just wasn't in the right place" or they believe whatever excuses the guy tells her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Sounds a little extreme. But I never said that you weren't attracted to him, just that he was objectively less attractive than you according to outside observers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:44 PM |
| 4 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?If you're not gonna answer the question honestly, then why even bother posting? How does saying "neither" contribute to the conversation? I never said that you were unattracted to the guy, I just said that the guy is objectively less attractive than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:40 PM |
| 9 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Unfortunately, this happens a lot on dating apps and places where casual sex occurs often. Women tend to go for the most attractive guy they can get and the guy might act like he's really into her, but how he really sees her comes out when he doesn't message her the next morning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?Congratulations. But, you didn't answer the hypothetical question. Which one would you rather have? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather have casual sex with a guy out of your league who saw you as beneath him, or sleep with a guy slightly less attractive than you who saw you as the hottest woman he's been with?The question is which would you rather do? Please try to stay within the bounds of the question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI think many of those men weren't really all that into you tbh. If I met someone I genuinely enjoyed talking to regardless of sex, I wouldn't mind waiting too much. It could also be that these guys were afraid that you weren't all that attracted to them by making them wait for sex. I'm curious about the kind of conversations that you've had with these men. Did you talk about values and honestly express your emotions on these dates? Did you talk about the things that made you happy or insecure? O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderJust curious, but what kind of effort would you have to put in? Why would it be difficult for you to find a partner who meets your criteria? What would your criteria be? There are plenty of men out there looking for sex and plenty of them don't have particularly high standards regardless of n-count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderNo one is disagreeing with the concept of assortive mating. Most people end up with their market equivalent. I think we have vastly different interpretations of what constitutes "casual sex". Casual sex in my opinion is an explicit agreement to have sex without commitment or without a promise of commitmtry. The sex that people have when they're "dating" is not the same as the sex that a guy has with a woman he has no interest in furthering a relationship with. People may sleep with each other fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI don't think this is necessarily true. There's plenty of escorts who genuinely like their clients as people and have regular clients. I'd be far more concerned about women who had a ton of one night stands. Those women tend to dehumanize their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 03:22 AM |
| 3 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIf certain answers to those questions are dealbreakers to any potential partner's then it's completely valid for people to ask. Of course, you have the right to not answer. But I don't think anyone can truthfully say that "it doesn't matter" because otherwise, people wouldn't be so defensive about it and go to extraordinary lengths to not let their partners know the truth or avoid knowing their partner's past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderLike it or not, our actions have consequences. If you engage in a certain behavior, there are going to be people who will be turned off by that and see you as a bad investment. A man/woman who has been divorced multiple times is highly likely to divorce again and that is going to hurt their "credit rating" so to speak. Call it sociopathic if you want, but that's just how the world works. A man who sees escorts will have to accept that a large percentage of women will not want to date him as do w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderWell, you aren't staying with someone who cares about your past because clearly there is a lack of compatible values. I don't think anyone "owes" anyone an explanation for their dating history, but I don't think it makes them an asshole for asking. A woman who believes in no sex until marriage isn't going to be compatible with a guy who sleeps around and it's completely valid for her to ask. Whether or not he knew she existed while he was engaging in casual sex is irrelevant. It's the same reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI'll say this. You are what you attract. If you believe your past doesn't matter and don't feel like it's anyone's business, you'll attract men who think the same way. If you attract a bunch of sociopathic assholes into your life, then maybe you should ask yourself what is it about yourself that would cause that. People tend to end up with people similar to themselves in personality and values. "Birds of a feather flock together" as they say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI'm asking because I've seen your post history. Jesus Christ. I don't think you've ever had a healthy relationship in your life. You really seem to dislike men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderHmm, this is gonna sound like a random question, but do you consider yourself to be a very empathetic and compassionate human being? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThat is entirely your own opinion. If you don't care about whatever the hell your partner did before you then that's good for you. However, most people care about sexual history because they want to make sure that their partner is on the same page as them on stuff they care about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:44 PM |
| 5 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderHell, if she ain't charging you, that's all the proof you need lol. Plus plenty of sex workers enjoy sex in their personal lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderRead the OP more carefully | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Is the male equivalent of AF/BB, wifey material (AF) vs a casual partner (BB)?Nah the male equivalent is sleeping with an escort (AF) and settling for his wife (BB). Most men don't do this, however. For both men and women, the AF is someone who is way out of their league who would never date them. The BB is the person who is their market equivalent that they can get commitment from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThere are very few guys that can go up to a woman and say "wanna bang?" and get any sort of positive reaction from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThat 10/10 escort sure as hell doesn't see that unemployed old man who sees her once a year as an equal. No, men can get off to a bunch of things. Getting off isn't necessarily the most important thing when determining if a sexual experience was "good" or not. It means that being desired by his partner is not a necessary precondition for him to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 05:02 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI think the women over at r/SexWorkers would chew you out for saying that lol. They do their jobs for a variety of reasons besides the money. It's not your place to claim someone is an "intellectual" or not because they have a very different opinion of sex work than you do. If a woman has a Ph.D. and does sex work to help supplement her lifestyle, is she not an "intellectual"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:58 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThe post was mainly to prove the point that men's reservations about women's body count on this sub aren't driven by "slut-shaming", but rather the fear of being settled for. But yeah, your example is equally as valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIt means he doesn't care about equality or being desired by his partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderNo, it doesn't say anything about his libido. You can have a high sex drive and only want to have sex in a committed relationship or marriage. It says everything about his values and his attitudes towards the opposite gender, however. I would say that most men would still care if their partner finds him very attractive even for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderSo you don't feel bad that he feels like he "settled" for you because he couldn't get hotter girls to commit to him? He may see you as an "equal" but that still doesn't mean that he doesn't feel like he's settling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderLooks like we got a SWERF. You need to learn to show some empathy towards sex workers. You can absolutely get highly educated sex workers at the high end. Do you feel the same way towards women who buy male escorts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:36 PM |
| 3 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderHey, if you're okay with your partner sleeping with a bunch of supermodel-looking women and then settling for you because he couldn't get one of those women to date him, then by all means go ahead. If you're not okay with that, then you shouldn't be a hypocrite. Plus the upvote ratio suggests that more men agree with me than not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:29 PM |
| 5 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI don't really see how sexual history can be compared to your checking account. How does sharing your sexual history pose a threat to you? If it isn't something you feel comfortable sharing then that is fine, but there isn't any rational reason as far as I can see for hiding the number from people. Yeah, a woman who cares about sexual history probably isn't going to be compatible with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderYeah sure, but it doesn't bother you at all that he was willing to sleep with people who saw him as beneath them? That his overriding desire to sleep with the hottest women possible outweighed his desire to be seen as desirable to his partner? I have no problem with people lusting after hot people. I do have a problem with people not really caring about equality or whether or not their partner actually finds them attractive. People only "settle" if the goal is to get the hottest person possible … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIt's because they couldn't get a guy/woman like that dude on Tinder/escort to date them. We all have to make tradeoffs. You're saying you wouldn't feel a type of way if the guy you were dating slept with a bunch of women way out of his league who would never date him and then kind of had to settle for someone in his league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 04:03 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderPeople need to form generalizations in order to mitigate risk and navigate through the world more efficiently. Is it a generalization that walking through a high-crime neighborhood at night is less safe than walking through an upscale suburb during daytime? Yes. But, it's still valuable information regardless despite the inefficiencies and lack of nuance within the conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:57 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI guess my question is why do you get offended when someone asks you this question? Why do you have the mindset of "it's none of your business". People usually say stuff like that when they've got something to hide. If it's something they care about, you should be upfront about it so that they can go find someone else who meets their criteria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:53 PM |
| 10 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIf she presses, I'll never be more specific than; more than 10, less than 100. Seems like some evasive maneuvers to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI respect your consistency. I don't have any issues with people who hold other people to the same standards that they hold other people to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:43 PM |
| 13 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIf it doesn't matter, then why hide it or evade the question? With all due respect, it's pretty clear to me that it does matter and you're just trying to avoid uncomfortable thoughts and emotions. It's okay if you don't want to talk about sexual history, but I don't think most people would realistically say that it "doesn't matter". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderEven if you're right, I'd still rather be in the bottom 50% than the bottom 5% lol. Not saying I'd ever do this though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI mean according to Reddit, like 75% of people upvoted the post. If you've got any evidence to counter my claim, I'm all for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI don't think that's true for most escorts. I think most guys when they pay for sex tend to go for the hottest women they can get. Super attractive guys probably aren't as likely to pay for sex to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIf she was an otherwise good human being, but struggled to find a boyfriend and didn't want to take the risks of hooking up with men off of Tinder and wanted a guaranteed pleasurable experience, would you really judge her for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:20 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderWould you think less of a woman who saw a male escort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on Tinderlol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThose women need to make their money just like anyone else. It is a job after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIt's more about being in the top percentiles for a woman with that high of a body count lol. I'd rather be in the top 90% percent for an escort than be in the bottom 5% for Tinder girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderPersonally, I don't like the idea of sleeping with an escort. But, I don't see it as much more exploitative than anything else. If a woman was sleeping with super jacked guys on Tinder and knew that many of these men were using steroids and had low self-esteem, is she exploiting those men? Is she exploiting the skewed-gender ratios to sleep with a man who would never look twice at her in real life? Plus, I think the quality of the services being sold is absolutely relevant. It's less likely that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI think that goes against the idea of "informed consent". You shouldn't hide your past from your partners. You wouldn't want them hiding stuff from you, would you? Plus, I would feel like that would just limit intimacy with your partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIn your case, I wouldn't find that to be a turnoff. But, I think your case is definitely the exception rather than the rule. I'm not sure what this means? I assume that it means that you have an agreement that you can sleep with other people. If you're committed and you both find each other very attractive, then why would you call yourself FWBs and not in a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderEh, it's not really something you have to worry too much about at the high end and in places where it's well regulated. Plus, people purchase things that use "unethically sourced" labor all the time. The onus is on society to fix those issues, not the consumer. It is human nature to get the most "bang for the buck" pun not intended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:54 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIf he sees you as disposable and believes that he can do better, it would be turn off for me. If he sees you as an equal and believes that you're the best that he can do, I don't mind that at all. But, I'm wary of FWB relationships, usually, in those cases, the woman is attractive enough for long-term sex but not quite attractive enough to put a ring on her finger. I would still see that as a red flag. Men don't usually let women they see as "wife material" sleep with other men like that. Plus m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:47 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI'm sure that guys who sleep around might have lucked up and got a woman out of his league to hook up with him as well. It's more about the general trend than anything else that tends to bother people. It may not be about being the "best" but it's definitely about feeling you're at least one of the best. It's okay if you don't want to date an escort, I personally wouldn't want to either. But, I'd still choose an escort over a woman who slept around on Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderIt's a CMV thread, not a discussion thread. Of course, you're going to get contradictory answers. You can make a CMV about how women get sex easier and you'll get the same results. If we compare the upvotes in response to "I promise you no one thinks like this lol", then it's clear that people are agreeing with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderYeah, a lot of guys fake wanting to be in a relationship on Tinder. It's about selling the fantasy that these guys find her desirable. It really isn't much different than an escort flirting with a John. She needs to do what she needs to do to make money. He's gotta do what he's gotta do to get pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:32 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderWhat I'm saying is that it's very unlikely that the dude with a six-pack that obese women match with is going to want a relationship with her. Speaking from personal experience, the skewed-gender ratio made me see every woman on there as "beneath" me because I knew I could get hotter girls in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThat's fair enough. I can understand that. Personally, I still don't like the idea of my partner having sex with someone who didn't find her attractive enough to date, so to me, the Tinder girl and the woman who seeks escorts aren't much different. If I had to choose, I'd rather pick the woman who seeks escorts than the woman who goes after "Chad" on Tinder, simply because it's less risky and he's more likely to treat her with respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderNever said you didn't know how the world worked. You said that most men would rather picker a Tinder girl over an escort. I disagree with this because I think that most who know that women "fuck up" on dating apps would rather pick an escort all things being equal. You may disagree with this, but I think most men on PPD would agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:17 PM |
| 7 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderHmm, I guess I just feel differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:15 PM |
| 6 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderWhat is your reasoning behind choosing the woman on Tinder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:09 PM |
| 5 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderNah, guys aren't looking for a relationship with "pig woman". Also, what you're saying is in direct contradiction with literally all of FDS. Younger men generally aren't looking to get married to the much older women they get off of Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:06 PM |
| 5 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderMy view of sex is that it's something to primarily be shared amongst people who at the minimum care about each other, not simply to satisfy an itch with a random stranger. Haven't had the opportunity, but I'd give it a shot. Sounds better and safer than dating lol. Isn't this kind of a contradiction? I agree that we should treat our sexual partners with respect, but why does it matter how many escorts he's been with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 02:04 PM |
| 12 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI agree that most men would never want to date an escort. Which is why in the OP, I've stated "holding body count constant". If a woman on Tinder and an escort slept with an equivalent number of men, which one would you pick? Personally, I'd pick the escort because she's probably more empathetic towards men because many men come to her to talk about their problems in addition to getting sex with an attractive woman. You're probably going to see a lot more dehumanizing behavior from a woman who h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:59 PM |
| 5 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThat's your opinion. You probably wouldn't want to date someone without any options anyway. I don't think their sexual history would factor much into your decision-making at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI'm not saying that they will stop shaming men for not being comfortable with extensive body counts. They have a vested interest in trying to get men to want to date women who've slept around. What I'm saying is that there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI personally don't like using the word "whore", but that's beside the point. I would be willing to overlook past promiscuity if I felt like I wasn't being "settled" for personally. I care more about how the body count was achieved than the actual number. You may not care about this, but I'm sure plenty of men on this sub who've figured out how the world works care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI think the focus on the "sexual double standard" is misguided. The reality is that nobody wants to feel settled for. This is true regardless of gender. It just so happens to manifest in different ways. We shouldn't be shaming people for not feeling comfortable with the idea of their partner having sex with people "out of their league". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:48 PM |
| 6 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderYou're assuming that people who pay for sex don't have any options. That just factually isn't true. The quality of the options on the other hand... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderThat's your opinion and you're basically saying that filtering someone out by sexual history is completely valid. I don't like the idea of my partner sleeping with someone who saw her as beneath him. I don't think that we should be shaming guys who do this though just as we shouldn't be shaming escorts. A lot of it stems from desperation and low self-esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:44 PM |
| 4 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderPersonally, I'd rather a woman sleep with an escort than hook up with an equivalently attractive dude off of Tinder who probably saw her as a "cumbucket". With a male escort, at least he's paid to get her off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:41 PM |
| 0 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderLet's be real, the dude who's willing to sleep with "pig woman" probably isn't all that concerned about her pleasure either. I don't think women are all that concerned about their casual sex partner's pleasure either. If they did, they would go for guys in her league who are willing to put in more effort than "hey wanna hook up?" The only reason why they put effort into their partner's pleasure is so that he sticks around and to assuage their guilt about the fact that the guy would never date th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:39 PM |
| 14 | Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on TinderI beg to differ. I think most guys would rather pick the escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 01:30 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How would you feel if your boyfriend used to date Stacies?Can you post a link to this study? I find this very interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI never said that you couldn't. I never said that looks were all that mattered for a relationship. I just said that because of the factors that I laid out in the OP, it is not realistic for men to expect that they will be the most attractive guy that their partner has been with. If men can't accept the power differential, then I suggest that they rid themselves of their prejudices towards paid sex and hook up with a woman out of his league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t have to fuck to show interest on the first dateYou're absolutely right that men go for the best that they can get for an LTR. They "date up" because it's an option in the same way that women can get hotter guys for casual sex. This is just reality. I have no doubt that there are plenty of hot guys selling dreams to women they see as beneath them. It truly sucks for women who fall for it. If women want a guarantee of a relationship they need to be brutally honest about how attractive they actually are. There are plenty of studies showing that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withYour boyfriend must have had a pretty female dominated social circle and these women must have had pretty low inhibitions regarding casual sex. I don't think that his situation is the norm. It's far more likely that it's the woman getting "pumped and dumped" than vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withONS are ONS for a reason. If he locked you down, it was because you were the most attractive he could get. Women don't really need to worry about being less attractive than their partner's previous casual partners. That's something that men worry about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withThis is also dependent on the gender ratios of the parties and social circles that the woman gets involved in. I would agree that it's possible for women to hook up with someone "beneath" her if the ratio of single men to single women at the parties are female skewed and she's consuming relatively more alcohol to lower her inhibition than her potential male partners. However, this narrows the scope of possible outcomes considerably. It seems to me that outside of this very specific scenario, it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withYour anecdotes don't invalidate the wealth of experiences and studies that indicate the general overall pattern of women having higher standards for casual sex than men do. I'm not disagreeing that the parties are intoxicated before they engage in casual sex. I'm saying that the environments in which casual sex occur are often heavily male skewed which gives women who seek casual sex an enormous amount of leverage when seeking out a partner. What you're describing are the situations in which cas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withAlright, be completely honest with yourself. The reason why women are far more likely to demand commitment from the FWB than the reverse is because women have higher standards for the people they have sex with than men do. I'm not denying that there are men who ask for commitment from their FWB, but it doesn't happen very often. If it did, you would see a lot more men on male dominated subreddits complaining about how their casual sex partner doesn't want to commit to them. This is not the reali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI'm not disagreeing that it is an option for men to subtract 2-3 points and date less attractive women. This is an unacceptable option for most men though, because they want to date someone they find attractive. I suggest that men should instead just abandon their prejudices around paid sex and hook up with escorts instead. Here is a study by Terri Conley that explains why women are less likely to have casual sex: https://psmag.com/social-justice/casual-sex-men-women-not-so-different-after-all-2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withPeople have insecurities and you don't really have control over your emotions. You only have control over your mindset which in turn affects your emotions. I cope with this reality of being "settled" for physically by acknowledging that I can easily get sex with women out of my league if I wanted to. I would just have to pay for it. Women pay for it as well when they have casual sex. They simply just pay for it with relatively higher risk to their safety and health and have a higher chance of no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI never said that you "needed to get a prostitute". I simply said that if a guy needed help to overcome the perceived power imbalance, he should just go see an escort. At least that way, you're both settling for each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNo, the point of the post was to simply get guys to accept that: Most women have had casual sex Because of supply and demand, the guys that women have casual sex with will almost always be more attractive than the guys they end up dating Casual sex is casual sex for a reason. Usually it's because the guy didn't find the woman attractive enough to want to date. A lot of guys will fuck anything and say and do whatever it takes to get a woman into bed and it doesn't necessarily mean that the woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNo amount of "go lift bro" is going to insulate you from the market. You're always going to be a "beta" to someone. You're gf will have probably hooked up with a hotter guy because of supply and demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withPeople still get drunk when they're on their Tinder dates. When a woman is going out of her way to hook up at a bar/club/online, she and her partner are probably drinking before they do so to loosen up their inhibitions. The reality of the matter is that in almost every avenue where casual sex happens, there are more men than women. This gives women who look for casual sex a huge advantage and are able to select guys they wouldn't be able to get under normal circumstances where there are social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 01:39 AM |
| 0 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withIt matters to people who care. For men who feel they have less power in the dating world because women can easily get sex, I offered them a solution. If it helps them let go of resentment and accept the world as it is, then I think that's a positive thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI think we need to make a distinction here between casual sex that is intentional and done with a clear mind and casual sex that happens spontaneously at a party. I don't doubt that there are women who regret sleeping with someone who wasn't attractive enough for them. As I said before, the dynamic applies less in parties where there is a relatively equal gender ratio and everyone is relatively acquainted with one another. This doesn't really negate the central point of the OP because I stated t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI never said he paid for it during their marriage. I think most men would agree that they would prefer that their gf dated guys she found really attractive and hooked up with uglier guys than vice versa. That would mean by extension that their gf also thinks that they're a Chad. But unfortunately, that is not how the world works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withA lot of people get drunk when they're on Tinder dates due to the lack of natural chemistry and inhibitions inherent to hooking up with a random stranger. The man in the situation is often consuming more alcohol because he needs to put on his "beer goggles". You're right that there are plenty of people who hook up with people outside of dating sites. But, the same dynamic applies at bars, clubs, and parties where the gender ratio is very much male skewed. Women are often unwilling to take the ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withOf course it stems from insecurity. You seriously think that women don't have insecurities about their attractiveness and desirability? A lot of women have mental breakdowns if they found out if their husband has paid for sex with an escort. Not because of anything inherent with sex work, but because they feel inadequate compared to the much hotter woman that he had sex with. You know what? She is absolutely justified in having that insecurity. I have a lot of empathy for a woman in that situati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNah, this is why you wear protection and choose an escort in a place where it is safe and well regulated. You're probably more likely to catch something from someone off of Tinder than an escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withThe number that I got came a TresSugar/SELF magazine poll. I know it's not very scientific, but I couldn't find any other numbers from a quick Google search. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNo, those people would fall into that 18%. There are a lot of women who are staunchly against casual sex who have tried casual sex. Most women have tried casual sex at least once. You can choose to believe it or not, but it's irrelevant unless you have contradictory evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withIt means he's not in an ongoing FWB/fuckbuddy situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:52 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withDude you clearly don't interact with women very much. Women are every bit as visual as men. They are just limited by their ability to get hotter guys for relationships because of supply and demand. They ratios are much more in their favor for hookups and that enables them to get more attractive guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI can agree with this. Never date someone who sees you as beneath them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:47 PM |
| 2 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI can agree with this. Never date someone who sees you as beneath them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:47 PM |
| 0 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI'm not disagreeing with this and I'm not advocating for guys to go MGTOW. I do think that men need to have realistic expectations out of a partner. The reality is that most women have had casual sex. The casual sex she had was probably with a dude out of her league who would never commit to her simply because of supply and demand. Most guys will be "settled" for. This is just how the world works and men should make their peace with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNo, it means that for an unattached single guy looking for an unattached single women, there is an 82% chance that she's had casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI'm actually pretty satisfied with my life and I'm pretty okay with being single. I don't engage in casual sex and I only date women I like as people. I'm just laying out the world as it is. Let's not kid ourselves here, there are absolutely people who are worth more in the dating market than other people. The fact that a market exists means that there is a ranking by definition. The only reason why I even post here is because I like sharing my perspective with others and reading what people hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 07:58 PM |
| 0 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withOf course. No one is arguing that there aren't people above you. The post was simply to get guys to stop fighting an unwinnable fight and trying to vet out people who've had casual sex or trying to be the best a woman has ever had. If a woman has had casual sex, it's highly likely that she's hooking up with a guy out of her league who would never commit to her. It's about taking this perceived power imbalance and looking at it from a different perspective. This post wasn't meant for you as a wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 07:45 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withHah! If we judged people's readiness to be in a relationship by how many toxic beliefs that they have then very few people would ever get into relationships or get married. Not disagreeing with you though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withThat's really interesting. I'm kind of an introvert and I don't really like having a huge social circle. I don't really party or anything like that. I can't really imagine myself sleeping with someone that I don't enjoy hanging out with 1-on-1. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't really keep people in my life unless I have chemistry with them. So for me, if the chemistry is there, then the only thing missing is the attraction. This is why it's kind of foreign concept for me to have ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withHmm, so what was it about your FWB that made you not want to date him? IME, the only reason why I ever engaged in casual sex was because I either didn't like the woman as a person enough to date her or because she wasn't attractive enough for me to date. On a rare occasion, a woman proposed an FWB because of differing life goals (she wanted kids and I didn't) or because I was only in town for a few days . I'm just wondering how truly casual that really is though. If you don't really like someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 06:38 PM |
| 5 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI think it's fairly easy to filter out the "carousel riders", but I think it's near impossible to filter out every woman who has ever engaged in casual sex. The women who get pumped and dumped repeatedly tend to have a ton of red flags that make them easy to spot. But the vast majority of women have had the experience of sleeping with a guy out of her league who would never commit to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withYou get what you pay for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 06:24 PM |
| 9 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withWomen like sex as well. If they didn't, they wouldn't have engaged in it unless they're delusional enough to believe that a man having sex with you makes you particularly attractive or special. When a woman's priority is sex, she care just as much as men do about looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withA lot of men don't engage in prostitution either. But that doesn't mean that he isn't gonna be picky about who he spends his money on if he decides to engage in it. Since the vast majority of women have engaged in casual sex, your odds are pretty slim that you're going to find a woman who hasn't and she has a very strong incentive to lie about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withNeither does casual sex. I'm not saying that men should give up on the idea of love. I'm saying that your wife will have probably had sex with a dude way hotter than you and that men need to learn to accept this. No amount of vetting or evasive maneuvers is going to change this. AFBB is how the world works. I only brought up prostitution because it's the closest equivalent that men have at "evening the score" if he needs that for his own sense of parity. Women who try to get a relationship out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withYou're always going to be a beta to somebody else. What is alpha to an HB7 is a beta to an HB9. No amount of "go lift bro" is going to insulate you from how the market works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withThere are still plenty of women who have casual sex for validation anyways. I agree that most women understand that guys have low standards and that women who seek validation from casual sex are delusional. But, I think we should make it very clear that the women who know this and do it anyways aren't much different than men seeking escorts. Nothing wrong with that of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withYeah, I don't think most men would be all that bothered if he was treated the same as Chad. The problem really comes from the idea that she would have preferred Chad but she wasn't good enough for him and so she had to settle for Beta Billy. Fundamentally, the problem comes from the inherent gender imbalance when it comes to casual sex in the heterosexual dynamic. Women can afford to be pickier and so Beta Billy doesn't get picked while Chad does. It's the fact that women can even get Chad in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI guess the question becomes why do women feel more comfortable with being part of harem than men do? Personally I don't like the idea of my partner seeing me as "beneath" me. Why is it that women are more willing to accept inequality in relationships than men are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withTackling the fear of being settled for is a part of growing up. It's something that pretty much everyone deals with at some point or another. Whether or not you engage in the pillosphere is irrelevant. The people on PPD have stumbled across a realization that the world is not a fair place and that being "boyfriend material" is a very different thing than being "hookup material". Yes it sucks. Yes, many of them will have mental breakdowns while coming to terms with this. Part of "fixing whatever … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:10 PM |
| -1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI've already addressed in my post that "Chad" wasn't necessarily good in bed. This is simply to address the concern among men that Chad was chosen for casual sex while Beta Billy had to wait several weeks and provide commitment. It doesn't matter how good Chad was, it was the fact that he was chosen that causes resentment. Also, the number that I got came TresSugar/SELF magazine poll. I know it's not very scientific, but I couldn't find any other numbers from a quick Google search. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 05:02 PM |
| 0 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI agree that this is true for society at large. I think that men on PPD need to come to terms with the reality that yes, the dude your wife hooked up with was probably a lot hotter than you. Women on FDS need to come to terms with the reality that they're going after guys out of their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withTBH I think most women that do this know that they're going for dudes out of their league. They're not much different than men seeking escorts. It's the delusional FDS types that think that all men are trash because the dudes out of their league won't commit to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:46 PM |
| 6 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withIt doesn't matter how many casual sex experiences she's had. The very nature of the casual sex market practically guarantees that she's hooked up with a dude out of her league because it is an option for her. It's possible that she might have slept with a guy less attractive casually if she knew him as a friend and she is unusually attractive, but I wouldn't count on it. It's far more likely that the AFBB situation is going to play out. In which case, you're better off getting an escort to even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI don't really do casual sex because I don't like treating people as disposable. It's shitty for both people involved. The guy is having sex with someone he sees as inferior to himself and the woman is getting used for sex. However, both people are equally responsible for being put in this situation in the first place. The woman would rather be the "pump and dump" for a guy out of her league than settle for a guy who is less attractive and happy to commit to her. I personally don't think casual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 04:00 PM |
| 6 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI agree, ignorance is bliss. But, you need to accept that she probably is just faking it. Most women have had casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 03:44 PM |
| -5 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withThen you'll have to lower your standards considerably and date someone 2-3 points beneath you. It's just too pervasive for you to be able to vet out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withMost people don't sleep around a lot so it's easier to compare one experience to the other. I've only been with 3 people and I can very easily rank how good each experience was with each other. It's not hard to say "on average GF 1 was better at sex than GF 2". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 03:39 PM |
| 4 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI'm not demonizing you for taking your time to vet your partners. Just try to understand where men are coming from when you hold the men you are interested in a relationship with to a different standard than the men you have casual sex with. They understandably feel less attractive than the guys you fucked immediately, because they probably are. If we're being completely honest with ourselves, much of our desire to date comes from our desire to feel validated and attractive. When you make him wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 03:28 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that they aren't going to be the hottest guy that their partner has been withI'm not disagreeing with this. I never said that men "fall in love with the hottest girl". What I said in the OP was that the women that men date are often the most attractive that he's ever been with. He may have genuinely liked his casual partners as people, but there is a reason why chose not to commit to them. That reason usually being that she wasn't attractive enough for him to commit to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsHonestly man, I've come to realize that women who go out of their way to get guys of out their league online and at bars and clubs are emotionally stunted. Usually, you can tell that there are plenty of red flags if you know what to look for. Women like that don't truly value equality within their relationships or even want relationships at all. They just want the validation of getting a hotter guy to commit to them and then turn around and say "Where have all the good men gone?" when he inevita… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/21 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsI'll keep that in mind haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 09:01 PM |
| 3 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsWow, you've definitely changed my perspective. I guess my view of OLD was warped by my experiences looking for a relationship on Tinder and lurking on FDS. I suppose as long as people have the maturity to know what they're bringing to the table, OLD can be a great tool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsHey, no need to be condescending. If online dating works for some people then who am I to argue against that? My view has been changed, however. Online dating works best when people have a realistic idea of what they have on offer and have the maturity to turn down "higher value" options for the sake of a stable relationship. I've upvoted your comment in good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsFair enough. I still don't think that it is the most efficient strategy in order to find a LTR because of the reasons outlined in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsHinge tends to work better for men because the ratios are more in their favor than Tinder or Bumble. I guess the original point made in the OP still stands. Women who have a realistic idea of their league are less likely to get "pumped and dumped" than women who shoot for the moon. But this is pretty much entirely contingent on a woman having enough dating experience to have a realistic idea of what her league is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsIt means that 78% of people aren't meeting their partner of a dating app and thus they are operating in a different dating market. A "maximizer" strategy will often fail to net people the results that they want online because of the gender imbalance inherent to the platform. In real life, people can maximize all they want but they are limited by the available options and social consequences for their actions. It's much more difficult to "pump and dump" someone if you have to see them at work the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 08:03 PM |
| 0 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsThat hasn't been my experience at all. You're right that women who go to fitness classes aren't there specifically to meet a guy, but they aren't gonna turn down a guy they find attractive if he strikes up a good conversation with them. Going to places with the intention of making friends will always net you better results that going into an environment where you're competing with guys way hotter than you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsWould you say that you were going for the hottest guys you could get or were you choosing guys you believed that would stick around? Did you pursue a "maximizer" strategy or a "satisficer" strategy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsThat's really interesting. Would you say that you were going for the hottest guys you could match with online? Which dating site were you using? It's interesting to me because dating sites typically skew heavily male so there is often a mismatch of expectation if both parties are using a "maximizer" strategy. It seems to me that the most stable choice is one in which women deliberately choose guys who aren't out of their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsIf that were really true, no one would try to date in real life. If OLD was a universally superior option, then nobody would bother trying to date in clubs or Meetups or through mutual friends. Would you really say that the quality of matches you get online is comparable to what you get in real life? As a guy, the difference was night and day between the quality of women I matched with online and the women I could get in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsI think this is more of a survivor bias type of thing. The people who have successfully navigated online dating are more likely to be in stronger relationships due to greater similarities in values, income, appearance. This is entirely dependent on the ability of people involved to have a realistic idea of their SMV. In other words, they are "satisficers". People who aim too high end up getting "pumped and dumped" and end up in strings of short term relationships. This is literally the biggest r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsWhere would you rate yourself on a scale of 1-10? My theory is that 8+ people are somewhat immune the effects of the market. At a certain point a "9" or "10" becomes pretty subjective. I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that because of the dynamics of online dating, it is really difficult for a guy to find his "looksmatch". It' s difficult for women to find a guy looking for a relationship because they're often "dating up" and don't know what their true SMV is. Also, how long were thes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsI think the whole "dating up" thing tends to break down after a certain level of attractiveness. If you're an 8+, there isn't much more "hypergamy" you can really engage in. At that point it becomes pretty subjective. It's pretty obvious that a Lamborghini is better than a Toyota, but is a Lambo better than a Ferrari? I guess the point is that everyone's "10" looks different but most us can agree that a "7" is more attractive than a "5". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 07:13 PM |
| 0 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsGotta start somewhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsMaybe you could try joining a fitness class. It's usually a hit or miss in terms of finding people who share your values. If anything being politically apathetic will probably help you find a partner than if you had deeply help beliefs. Plus the people there will have higher SMV than the people you meet in other avenues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsI agree with you on that. What I meant to say was that the women who chase after guys out of their league and then rage about men on FDS fit my description. I think the more rational women who accept that they aren't going to get commitment from these guys are like the employers who don't care if their employees stick around. I can respect a woman who accepts reality. I can only shake my head at those who don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsSo I guess that means that you don't truly want a relationship then. If you already know the reason why you aren't in a relationship, then why do FDS women complain? I could just as easily say that those women who are looking for relationships don't actually want relationships. They just know that they can't get a relationship with that hot guy out of their league and settle for casual sex. Life comes with trade offs. The fact that these women would rather chase after the unattainable tells me t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is usually a lost cause for LTRsI don't disagree with this. I personally am not a big fan of casual sex but if people want to sleep around while they are looking for a partner then OLD is very good for that. I'm just trying to say that OLD isn't as efficient as looking in real life when hunting for an LTR. It just seems like a lot of effort for low reward. The time spent OLD could be better used volunteering and expanding your social circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 11:51 AM |
| – | Why Online Dating is usually a lost causeHey, how would I go about properly formatting this? I didn't try to come off as ranty. I mostly wanted to discuss the dynamics of online dating and get people's thoughts on the conclusions that I've made | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 11:36 PM |
| 6 | Men's problem with the current dating sceneThe empathy is strong with this one :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenCheck my exchange with cowfishAreReal. I've already addressed this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 05:56 PM |
| – | CMV: the more sexual success a man has the more likely he is to support women's rightsI think we need to make a distinction between people who engage in casual sex and people who engage in polyamory. I don't think one needs to be particularly feminist to engage in the bar and club and party scene. The type of guy who is drawn to parties and bars and clubs for easy sex isn't necessarily feminist, in fact he probably isn't. A guy like that might have some more "flexible" ideas about what constitutes consent. In the US, campus rape culture is a huge problem because men take advantag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/21 03:07 PM |
| – | CMV: the more sexual success a man has the more likely he is to support women's rightsDefine sexual success? Is a "sexually successful" guy a person who goes on Tinder and "pumps and dumps" women he sees as beneath him? Is a "sexually successful" guy a person who has been in a relationship for 7 years with the same woman he has lost his virginity to? If it's the the latter, then I would agree that he probably is more likely to identify with feminism. There are plenty of men with high body counts who aren't necessarily good people. I would argue that people with high bodycounts ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/21 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI don't disagree with you that compulsive casual sex and use of online dating platforms is often a sign a poor mental health and toxic beliefs. Those people should absolutely go see a therapist. But it's not our place to force our values on or diagnose people who fundamentally do not share our values regarding sex. If some people can separate emotions from sex, then it is not our place to pass judgement on them or block their avenues. It is not our place to tell someone else if they are being ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI personally don't use Tinder. But I take issue with the idea that men aren't being treated as commodities on Tinder. Literally your entire value on Tinder is how you look and how high status you are. I would not advise that any man use Tinder unless he's a masochist who doesn't mind constantly putting up with women who demand "6ft+ only" on their profiles. Tinder is a market in which your value is entirely dependent on your conformity to prevailing beauty standards. You can say that "female sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 03:39 PM |
| 3 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI seriously disagree with a idea that women's bodies aren't being treated as commodities on Tinder. A quick scroll through r/Tinder and r/asktrp will show you otherwise. The only difference is that the currency being traded on Tinder is conventional attractiveness. Plus, I think you're seriously underestimating exactly how many men have paid for sex. Many of these men have been/are married. A lot of them are high income professionals. Celebrities use the services of an escort all the time and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 10:37 AM |
| 0 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenYour original point was "Equating risk to money makes absolutely no sense". This will be my last post, I'm going to bed after this. When a woman decides if a guy is worth hooking up with she asks herself: "is he worth the risk?" When a man decides to buy an escort he asks himself: "is she worth the money?" Implicit in both of these statements is a judgement of value. Both risk and money in both of these statements have negative value. All I'm saying is that risk has a quantifiable monetary value… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 03:33 AM |
| 0 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI'm not going to argue with you over the "likeness" of coffee. I made this post so that dudes who are obsessing on PPD over being "settled" for by a woman who has engaged in casual sex with a guy out of her "league" can have some cognitive closure. It's absolutely true that a woman hooking up with random strangers is in all likelihood sleeping with a guy more conventionally attractive that her eventual husband simply because of the gender ratios within bars, clubs, and Tinder. You can argue all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenAlright, so what exactly does it take for something to be "like" another thing? Seems to be pretty subjective to me. If you really wanted to, you could classify anything with anything. If so, then you are correct in saying that the classification cannot convey any meaningful information. In any case, the whole point of this post was to point out that "risk" has monetary value. The value of this risk is the amount of money it would take to convince the average person to perform an action given th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI fully realize that the comparison is kind of comical, but it's merely to illustrate a point. The reason why it is valid to compare prostitution and buying a coffee at Starbucks is to illustrate that they are both transactions and in this way they are of the same category. Does buying coffee and prostitution have much in common? Nope. Neither does a fish and a human being for that matter. Doesn't mean that they both aren't vertebrates and that the classification isn't relevant. Since prostituti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenOther than the magnitude, I don't see why not. Of course, it really depends on whether or not you believe that there is a moral equivalence between the two. I can't really argue with you if you believe that safe, well regulated prostitution intrinsically immoral. Personally, I don't see anything inherently wrong with it if it's between two consenting adults. Just as there is nothing wrong with a woman seeing a male escort, there is nothing wrong with a man seeing a female escort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenFair enough, but would you say that it is more risky than having sex with an equivalent number of women on Tinder? I never said that it was completely risk free or that men did not face any risks either, I simply said that the primary price that women pay when they engage in casual sex is in the form of risk and that the primary price that a man pays is in the form of money. Both money and risk have quantifiable value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI said in the OP that we are assuming that we live in a country where prostitution was legal, safe, and well regulated. You're probably way more likely to catch an STD from a random chick on Tinder than someone who gets tested every few days in a brothel in Amsterdam. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenSitting on a chair isn't an exchange between two human beings. Nor are there any apparent market dynamics with that action. There is nothing being exchanged when you're sitting in the chair. If you were being paid to sit in a chair i.e working at a desk job, then the analogy works just fine. You are selling your labor to the highest bidder in the job market. I'm struggling to understand your point. I'm trying to point out that whenever people try to sell their product in an efficient market, peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenYeah, I was really just using Tinder as an example. The same logic applies to bars and clubs as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI wouldn't worry about it too much if you meet men in real life. This stuff mostly happens to women who use online dating. In real life, there are social costs for "pumping and dumping" someone, so guys will tend to be a lot more picky. If you meet a guy through some common interests or through friends, it's more likely that he'll be really attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 07:11 PM |
| 0 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenEh, probably a combination of boner pills and alcohol. Also, turning off the lights when you're having sex lol. A lot of men base their self worth on how many women they can sleep with. A lot of it is because of toxic masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenThat thread seemed to be about the validation of casual sex in comparison to the validation that a man receives for seeing an escort. I'm arguing that the dynamic inherent to Tinder and other anonymous casual sex platforms aren't much different that prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenIf these risks didn't exist, I seriously doubt that guys would complain endlessly about AFBB. Hetersexual dating dynamics would probably resemble homosexual dynamics more closely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenYou're absolutely free to choose to have casual sex if you want. All that you're saying is that casual sex is worth the risks to you in the same way the services of an escort are worth the money for a John. Everything has risks, but it's pretty obvious that some risks are inherently gendered. If risk was equal across the board and the benefits were the same, the ratio on Tinder would be exactly the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenBut is your example really all that much different from prostitution? The man is trading his resources for a woman that is out of his league. There is an equivalent exchange in this dynamic. You're right that bars are like Tinder. This doesn't fundamentally change the central point of the OP. Everything is a transaction and everything has a price. A woman using Tinder to hook up with guys out her league isn't all that much different that a dude using escorts. She's paying for it with higher rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenNever said anyone was owed sex. I just said that there are inherent costs to having sex with a random stranger. This price that women pay is compensated for by getting with a guy out of her league. This is what makes casual sex with a stranger worth it for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenAh, forgive me for not putting this in the OP. https://www.statista.com/statistics/975925/us-tinder-user-ratio-gender/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenEvery human interaction in a competitive market is an equivalent exchange. You'll have to argue why this statement is false in order to claim that it is "nonsense". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenThat being said, exceptions exist. There are plenty of women finding their SOs off of dating sites. I'm just not sure that it is the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenYou'd be surprised. There are a lot of women who don't get attention in real life. Less attractive women and overweight women in particular have an especially hard time. They use online dating because they aren't getting any in real life. The problem is that these women often get "pumped and dumped" because they're often going for guys out of their league. Secondly, relationship oriented guys know that they can get more attractive women in real life, which basically leaves online dating as cessp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI used Tinder as an example. As you pointed out, the logic applies to any dating venue with random strangers. Tinder is just a lot easier to analyze because there is plenty of data available on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI gave Tinder as an example because this is the source of many red pilled mens' frustrations. This logic can be applied to any situation in which men and women engage in casual sex with strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenYou're going to have to explain why "it's nonsense" before claiming a false equivalence. I'm arguing that the only difference between two equivalent exchanges is the moral value that society places on them. What I'm trying to say is that there isn't any inherent difference between purchasing a service that costs $300+ an hour and prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI never said that there wasn't risk before Tinder. I just said that using Tinder has inherent risks just like anything else. This risk is reflected in the gender ratios on Tinder. If dudes are complaining about women sleeping with Chads, they should just go see an escort. Either way, you're paying a price. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenAn equivalent exchange is an equivalent exchange, so I guess in that sense everything is like everything. The only difference between prostitution and any other form of equivalent exchange is the moral value that society places on it. Is prostitution any different than getting a massage? Is prostitution any different than mowing someone's lawn in exchange for concert tickets? I would argue that it isn't. Money is simply a store of value. Prostitution existed before the existence of money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI never said that they didn't. I'm just saying that women have more to lose than men. This is the primary reason why the ratios on Tinder are skewed. If women benefited from Tinder more than men on average, the ratios would be female skewed instead | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenEverything has pros and cons. Everything has a "price". It doesn't even need to be about sex, either. If we're being very simplistic about the world, there is equivalent exchange in any competitive market. A man pays money for sex and in exchange a prostitute is having sex with a man she may be unwilling to sleep with for free. In marriage, both partners are trading time, resource, sex, and emotional investment for a mutually beneficial outcome. I'm just arguing that there shouldn't be any stigm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Tinder is like prostitution for womenI'm not denying that you can mitigate the risks as much as possible. I'm not bashing you for hooking up with guys on Tinder either. I'm trying to say that there is a reason that there are more men than women on Tinder. The reasons being is that for the average woman, the expected benefits of casual sex are less than the expected costs. It may be the case for you that casual sex with a guy on Tinder is worth it. This just means that you experience "consumer surplus", meaning you benefit from the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 03:59 PM |
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