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If you want to stop the forced conscription of men, I think the best step towards that is to add the forced conscription of women.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:55 PM
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In my opinion, one of the biggest reasons women hate TRP has to do with the same reason they hate Pick-Up Artists. Because we teach men how to be better with women than they are naturally. They want to be dominated, but by a natural alpha. Having a lowly beta seduce them by acting like an alpha is trickery, cheating. They don't want betas to know there's a way for them to be alphas, they need the betas there for the beta bux. Alphas know to dominate naturally, it's in their genes. But most of so…
/r/askTRP12/10/14 08:41 PM
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I tend to just say 'Get on your knees" and get it out. My girl has started giving resistance to this. She loves me dominating her by pinning her down in missionary (hair pulling and a bit of slapping too), but she falls out of her comfort zone in dominating positions (including doggy, etc.). Any advice on how I can get her more comfortable with those transitions?
/r/askTRP26/11/13 11:36 PM
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I don't know how to do the reddit log thing... PurplePillDebate/comments/1n158p/psychology_today_is_not_a_valid_research_journal/ Wherein the TBP community and mods agree that layman sources with peer reviewed material like Psychology Today are not valid PurplePillDebate/comments/1qe2nf/sleeping_around_fucks_women_up_they_cant_pairbond/cdc43z1 Wherein TBPers upvote and agree that sources more than 10 years old are TOO OLD PurplePillDebate/comments/1qhahi/mrsamsa_is_using_a_source_from_the_70s_to…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 06:46 PM
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PSA to yall: PurplePill does not want sources. They are just more TBP circle jerk. Last week I posted two peer reviewed sources on hypergamy from a #1 ranked sociology journal (Archives of Sexual Behavior) from like 2010 and 2012. I was then banned and the mods stated to me, and in milder terms in their current stickied post that peer-reviewed scientific journal articles are not acceptable. Ironically, they also make fun of TRPers who do things like quote free sources from wikipedia, psychology …
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 04:06 PM
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PSA to yall: PurplePill does not want sources. They are just more TBP circle jerk. Last week I posted two peer reviewed sources on hypergamy from a #1 ranked sociology journal (Archives of Sexual Behavior) from like 2010 and 2012. I was then banned and the mods stated to me, and in milder terms in a stickied post that peer-reviewed scientific journal articles are not acceptable. Ironically, they also make fun of TRPers who do things like quote free sources from wikipedia, psychology today, or ol…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 04:05 PM
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They actually banned good peer reviewed sources from the scientific community because they are behind quality journal's paywalls (and were supportive of TRP)
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 03:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 10:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:32 PM
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you say Since it hasn't been accepted in psychology since the 70s, mostly thanks to the paper I linked to which debunked it as a valid concept, there really isn't any newer research that can be linked to as scientists stopped studying it. I say http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12930537 Peer reviewed paper from 2003 on integrating Maslow's Heirarchy in healthcare management and organization. Stop lying. I get downvoted and deleted for pointing out your intentional and blatant lie and providing …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:29 PM
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Considering you spend all day on reddit, your prolific post history isn't something I'm keen looking through. You have 3 pages of posts from the last day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:26 PM
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I'm sure people have considered his work since 1955, but there's likely not much published, as there's not much publish-worthy unless someone suddenly vindicated him. One of my three sources was explicitly talking about an aspect of his work that was 'forgotten' for a few decades, and attempted to update his model to include this, and allow this revised Maslow's Hierarchy to be empirically tested and examined. This was the 2006 paper. To continue the analogy: I say "Freud is wrong, and no discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:20 PM
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It would help if you stopped changing your story
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:10 PM
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there really isn't any newer research that can be linked to as scientists stopped studying it. This is what was said about Maslow's Hierarchy. If the same was said about Freud, and a paper from 1955 was linked as evidence that Freud was wrong about everything and no one since 1955 had considered his work, would you agree? when you're looking at things like marriage rates and views on sex, changing cultural standards will have a strong impact. Which is why I cited studies published in 2011 and 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 09:05 PM
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I have seen explicit claims to both genders from them. It seems to change depending on which one can be of the greatest benefit. But in this subreddit, there is 'male' consistency to a greater extent for reasons that are unclear to me. That's why they also claim to be a renowned psychologist yet came up with a crappy pdf of a manually scanned textbook from the 70's for their source.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 08:44 PM
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This has already been addressed elsewhere in the thread. http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qe2nf/sleeping_around_fucks_women_up_they_cant_pairbond/cdc5v0f
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 08:41 PM
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12930537 Peer reviewed paper from 2003 on integrating Maslow's Heirarchy in healthcare management and organization. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 03:27 AM
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Her sources are crap and I'm calling her out on it. She is using research from the 70's that is outdated and obsolete. This should not be considered, especially considering how my 2011 paper was called into question as 'outdated'
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 03:11 AM
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Well that claim cannot be proven. They rely on free 'google scholar' articles from the 70's for their research... Are there any plans on holding these blue pillers to literally the same standards they are trying to impose on my sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 02:51 AM
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We don't know why. We probably can't know why. But that's not what I'm talking about. I want to hear you acknowledge my peer reviewed research to change your mind. Three posts ago you were saying "this correlation is gender neutral". I am showing you peer reviewed research that says otherwise - 5 out of 5 say it exists for women, and 4 out of 5 say it doesn't exist for men. Do you accept this as evidence that promiscuity selectively affects women? If not, what more evidence would you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 02:27 AM
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There is a statistical correlation, but the studies don't really offer an explanation of why that correlation exists. So you are admitting the correlation for women exists and is more probable or significant than a similar correlation for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:55 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qe2nf/sleeping_around_fucks_women_up_they_cant_pairbond/cdc5ucn BluePiller PolyHooly apparently has no issue using the above source in this very thread. He also misrepresents the date from it, although in his defense he probably just didn't read it all. It is a journal from the 90's, correcting a book from the 80's, which used survey data from the 60's and 70's... to show that women in Los Angeles in the 60's and 70's weren't as poor after divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:34 AM
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Out of the 5 or so studies I have found (littered around this thread), one of them finds this. They even admit they are the first to see this, and chalk it up to their nonrandom sample. And the others find no significant difference in men, but effects of promiscuity only in women. 1 in 5 isn't a great statistical endorsement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 01:20 AM
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For the curious: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2010.00819.x/full This article was taken from the Journal of Marriage and Family and counters OP's claim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Marriage_and_Family ranking it fifth out of 38 journals in the category "Family Studies"[1] and tenth out of 137 journals in the category "Sociology".[2] This is a high impact, high rated journal among psychology and sociology. Unless you have published in at least the 4th top Fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:59 AM
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I'm not fighting your strawman about a made-up TRP goal. Their male results weren't interesting enough to publish, according to the authors. They also state This study is also the first to confirm this association for men as well as women. They acknowledge this is at odds with past literature Garcia and Markey (2007) found that discrepancies between married couples in their prior number of sexual partners were related to decreased marital satisfaction among women but not men. Anyways, this is ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:49 AM
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mmmm sauce Here is a peer reviewed study from the journal "Personal Relationships" from this year. Data was collected from surveys taken between 2006 and 2011. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/pere.12009/full
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:27 AM
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This article was peer reviewed and accepted for publication in 2011. Two years ago. The opinions of the scientific professionals that reviewed this article was that it was current and relevant research. Unless you can provide some sources on how "current social trends" are different, your opinion is less valuable than the scientific professionals' opinions when they reviewed and published this article in 2011.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/13 12:13 AM
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mmmmmm sauce Here is a peer reviewed study from the Journal of Marriage and Family from 2011. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2010.00819.x/full
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 11:46 PM
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15006279 Higher Rates of Depression in Women: Role of Gender Bias Within the Family - Brommelhoff et al. Journal of Women's health Again, you shift the posts. I am not saying 'women are more likely to fake being depressed'. I am saying women are more likely to knowingly report being depressed, and report higher depression symptoms compared to a man with the same actual symptoms. And the other paper shows that, by showing: 1 in 3 people are depressed When overtl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 11:28 PM
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However, you still haven't presented anything that suggests women are intentionally OVERreporting in order to receive antidepressant medications to then abuse them. I have never, nor would I ever make such a subjective claim. I am claiming that women self-report higher levels of depression among themselves. I have not speculated why that is, but it is true. The whole point of this thread was "this guy has no data to back him up". Well... here's the data. And it was easy to find. One such possibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 10:45 PM
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This is false and inflammatory, and it is clear you did not review the source. The raw data was taken from the CDC's NSFG survey. edit - your criticism of the Heritage Foundation is that 'they were too soft on Malaysia'? Really now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 10:34 PM
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http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/471577 [edit http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15006279 Higher Rates of Depression in Women: Role of Gender Bias Within the Family - Brommelhoff et al. Journal of Women's health] Even though I didn't agree with that particular quote, that does appear to hold true, as is seen in this study. I know this is a lot to ask in this sub, but could you please provide some evidence to the contrary? edit - another study! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12584064 Resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 09:48 PM
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Please reread the original article for empirical evidence. http://wmbriggs.com/pics/cdcdepression1.jpg This graph refers to professional objective categorization for depression severity, compared to the rate at which patients seek help and medication. As you can see, severely depressed men medicate and seek treatment less than 'mildly' depressed women. Also from the source ([Not cited in article, but the origin of the graphs) It is also that case that women are more likely than men to be prescri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/13 05:58 PM
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Men are choosing to no longer get married, not both genders are choosing to get married at a lower rate and doing it later in life and Men are choosing to no longer work. Not being forced out of the labor market or being underemployed or living with their parents because they can't find a job, they have to be consciously deciding not to work. There are even liberal writers like NYT articles that literally examine these phenomenom. They are often posted to TRP. They end with conclusions like 'men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/13 03:31 PM
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I'm ashamed that I hadn't come up with this before
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 03:23 PM
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How can one go about becoming a white nigga? I live in a black neighborhood so this information would be helpful to me
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 03:21 PM
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I've never seen a feminist pick-up guide As someone who as explicitly asked women (from /r/AskWomen to other internet forums) - the advice given on the internet is often LITERALLY "let her approach you if she's comfortable, then start talking". They don't understand that women DO NOT approach 99% of all men. Of course, in real life, most women are not actually SJW types and understand this, so this advice isn't AS bad offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 03:10 PM
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Stop buying Christmas presents
/r/TheRedPill04/11/13 03:06 PM
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83 year old guys aren't doing a lot of slack-picking-up
/r/MensRights31/10/13 03:33 PM
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OP - I work in the medical field. I know a lot of successful women doctors. My boss is a cardiologist in her 50's, and a leader in her field. There are a lot of smart women around here. None of them have good home lives. However, there is one type of doctor that consistently has a good home life. The 30 hour a week flaky OB/GYN or pediatrician. And the entire medical community hates this person, because she is LITERALLY wasting a medical degree by acting as less than half of a real doctor. Have …
/r/askTRP31/10/13 02:34 PM
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Because coercing someone to do something they wouldn't do when they're sober But this is the question, not the answer. If a girl puts on makeup, she can get a sober guy to sleep with her. He may not have done it without the makeup. So this guy was coerced into doing something he wouldn't have, despite being sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 08:19 PM
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He explicitly asked me to guess his thought process on a sexist statement he made...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 08:17 PM
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Everyone struggles with life. Hot girls, young men, rich men, poor people, poor women, black/white/whatever. This is due to a notion called the hedonic treadmill. Jerry Seinfeld did a funny bit on this once. He talks about how poor people complain about being hungry and not having rent. Then rich people are just as miserable. "Damn maid keeps scuffing the coffee table legs with the vacuum!" In spite of this, there really are objective levels of 'privilege' or whatever you want to call it. For ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:49 PM
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Rosalind Franklin was a very skilled technician. She was a great crystallographer. She was not innovative. In fact, if she was innovative, creative, and brilliant, she would have been able to use her own work to beat Watson and Crick to the punch. But she didn't know how to synthesize her own data with all the other DNA theories going around at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:34 PM
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My original question still stands. Can you please answer it? [make up and embellished salary] is an awful comparison to preying on the drunk and judgementally impaired, which it is. Why do you believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:23 PM
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I answered the question as to why you think that's OK. But obviously I'm not you so I don't know the answer. That's why I asked. I repeat: Why do you think it's OK to intentionally alter and manipulate someone's judgement by changing the way they perceive you in order to get them to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 07:06 PM
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Why do you think it's OK to intentionally alter and manipulate someone's judgement by changing the way they perceive you in order to get them to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:46 PM
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This is to address the mindset of "this girl was tipsy, therefore it was rape". This is an OBJECTIVELY false statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 06:41 PM
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walking around believing everyone else shares your moral tenet that "pressuring" a voluntarily "drunk" girl into sex is the legal and moral equivalent of rape as has been traditionally understood (forcible rape, slipping a girl a mickey) is a dangerous way to live in a multicultural society. Exactly. Is it any worse for a girl to influence a guy into having sex by putting on make up and lingerie? Or for a guy to embellish his salary on OKCupid (a known indicator for response rate)? If women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 05:24 PM
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I'm not advocating him in general. But his book (Blink is it?) is a great primer to the concept of initiation into genius and success. Many have repeated and expanded on his thoughts on this. PRACTICE NATURAL SKILL OPPORTUNITY And if you want to argue that white college educated women lack the opportunity for innovation or the time to hone these skills in 2013, then you need some sources on that. The only remaining factor is natural skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 01:27 PM
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So again... nothing here suggests that all genders and races are equalised to each be 100. Why do you believe this if you can't find a source for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 04:30 AM
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This adds nothing to the debate, and is a misdirections. Instead of addressing OP, you merely insult a large group of people. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 04:20 AM
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The fourth edition of the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale that is currentlyin use was released in 1986. It was designed with a larger, more diverse, representative sample to minimize the gender and racial inequities that had been criticized in earlier versions of the test Here is what actually happened. They did things like remove vocab only a person growing up in suburbs would know (or other differences between groups) so that every group would have the same OPPORTUNITY on the test. They did …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 03:45 AM
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Can you show me a question they modified to make sure the average black person scores the same as the average Asian?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 03:34 AM
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This comparison is a meaningless straw man given that black men are STILL disadvantaged socioeconomically compared to almost every other group, including black and white women. Not to mention the smaller population to begin with. In spite of this, the black Mozart's are the ones who stand up and fight for equality, using their brilliance and eloquence to stir the nation. MLK ring a bell? Reported for low effort to rebutt, and insulting straw man not addressing original point I recommend you read…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/13 03:22 AM
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This is the issue at hand though. No person here is going to change their mind either way. People become red pill by getting frustrated with life and finding other RP-minded people and then enjoying the results. People stay blue pill by feeling threatened by TRP. Neither of these people are going to gain anything from this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 06:30 PM
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I will repeat: their claims are objectively false and I should not have to google for them to prove 1+1=2. False paternity accusations are exceedingly rare. false studies show that most men end up with more financial resources upon divorce, whereas women end up with less financial resources upon divorce. False. (take into account government resources, and tens of thousands of jailed men from family courts, and women more likely to be deadbeats on cihld support, etc. etc.) Of course you chalk thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 06:25 PM
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Again you fail to read your own source. What was once filled with studies relating things like memory and mental illness has fallen into the pop psychology mire. How would you categorize a survey asking men and women about dating preferences? That's not a hard hitting huge paper that will get into Nature Medicine. It is pop psychology. That doesn't mean that a big survey wasn't conducted. This story is a direct reporting of this big survey. It is not a sensational version of a real story. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 06:20 PM
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I want you to go back and read that source carefully and try to understand what they are talking about. Because it has absolutely no conclusions about discrimination. They are not putting forward any evidence of discrimination. They are not showing any bias. They start out by saying "Women aren't 50% of physicists. There is discrimination going on, so let's figure out what it is. They start with their conclusion and work backwards. That's not science. That's religion. Then they are surveying ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 06:01 PM
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our current society expects men to ask women out and not the other way around. I wish it weren't that way, but what can you do. Who told you that is what society expects? That is what WOMEN expect. 93% of women expect a guy to make the first move. If they want to change it, they can go right ahead. And no, no man I know would slut shame a woman for asking a man out. That is not a thing. If some behavior is being propogated only by women, you cannot blame 'society' for their refusal to change. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 05:46 PM
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if sufficient credible evidence was shown. As stated previously, there will never be some huge double blind study on things like hypergamy. All we can do is point to psychology papers done on undergrads and say "look at how women lie about their sexual partners" and "see how many more guys are virgins through their 20's". And blue pillers already reject papers like that (as I frequently bring them up to have them dismissed). Failure to acknowledge that is another way of saying "I will never be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 05:26 PM
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The response is simple. This guy is lucky. Any guy that wants to learn game is not having college coeds walk up to him out of nowhere. Step 1: be attractve
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:45 PM
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I can't argue with all these strawmans you're putting up. No one said that working on being confident and presentable was a bad thing. I was already confident. I have always been confident in myself. This is another thing that people get wrong, along with 'nice'. Confidence in your own abilities is only attractive if you have confidence in an attractive thing. Very few are attracted to someone for being confident in their abilities as a programmer. Kind goes beyond that and is about being genuin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:08 PM
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You're misrepresenting game as a BP 'rape strategy' and that's a straw man I can't really argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:57 AM
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I really, honestly don't get where this whole "women don't like guys who do nice things" thing comes from. You have never been an average looking college age male trying to get a relationship with an average looking college age female. I too thought "who the hell doesn't want someone to be as nice as possible to them!?". But the proof is in the pudding. My best relationships (including my current one coming up on one year) come from game. Aside from game, most people consider me one of the nices…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 01:48 AM
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Are you saying being genuine and sincere is a turn off? Ding ding ding! We have a winner! This is one of the hardest truths to swallow at first. Example: Any guy I've ever known to be in a bar fight also never has trouble finding a GF (whether or not she sticks around). Any guy I've ever known to talk to a woman about their good accomplishments (friends are an EMT, a teacher, a biologist, and a doctor) get snubbed. Except the doctor. When he goes from saying "I work with sick people" to the word…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 01:38 AM
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Did you link to the wrong page? Ctrl + F: "alpha" and "beta" brought up no results. I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or you honestly did that. This scientific perspective does not use pop psychology phrases like 'alpha' and 'beta'. Instead MHC research how more 'aggressive' or 'variable' men are more attractive to women while ovulating, while more 'stable' and 'similar' men are preferred during pregnancy and other down times. I'm not going to argue against the straw men you are putting up as a mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 01:27 AM
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Couple things. First - read your own sources. I even linked to that Kinsley article in this thread to support myself. There is a lot more activity among young women than young men. But a few studs offset it. Second - try some studies like this instead of NBC for science. Third: The average number of partners of an adult American male is seven. For a female, it is four. 29% of men report having more than 15 partners. Only 9% of women do. If you used some common sense, you would see something is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 01:13 AM
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This is a semantics issue. I am taking this more literally. I consider any attempt to deviate from your normal default behavior to be 'not yourself'. I say this because people say "be yourself, act natural" as if you shouldn't change anything, and this is wrong. By my standard, wearing make-up (girl game) is 'not showing your true self' to that same end. Working out to look better is 'not being myself'. Being myself I wouldn't walk up to a girl and tell a crude joke. I would maybe think it in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 12:01 AM
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it's supported almost entirely by anecdotes and blogs. Or even Cracked. Actually Cracked is very anti-MRA and pro-feminazi. All cracked article that I've ever seen posted there are 'blue pill examples' or the like. Also: Alpha fucks / Beta bucks is hormonally linked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odor_and_subconscious_human_sexual_attraction there's so many exceptions it might as well be worthless TRP deals in trends, not absolutes. Most women I meet follow these trends. Some don't. Just lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:51 PM
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Plus, I'm polyamorous. There are two people that I've been dating for over a year, and a few others that I see more casually from time to time. Not all of them are women, but I didn't use any kind of 'game' or 'strategy' on any of them, other than the tried and true 'be nice and respectful; don't be a sucker' method. You are what we call "a natural". A very large portion of the male population is unable to secure even one short term relationship, let alone spin plates like a pro as you claim to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:41 PM
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Work at becoming genuinely likeable Here's the problem with saying that: Target demographics. This is what game is at its core. When you tease a girl and make her validate herself to you, that makes her like you. When you are nice and buy her drinks and offer to do things for her without reciprocation (at least without a prior relationship in place), that makes her hold you in disgust. Game IS making someone like you, but has a unique disadvantage of looking bad from an outsider's perspective. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:31 PM
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The red pill THEORY is like any other theory. It is not a law of nature but it best describes the current set of observations. I openly admit that if another, more 'PC' theory comes along that can rival TRP, I would readily change my ideology. When people come across evidence contrary to their worldview, they tend to ignore it. That's bias. You're not free from bias. Again, I accepted a change in worldview to join TRP. I am willing to do so again to leave it. I have no ties here other than utili…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 11:20 PM
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I would love an answer to this that isn't "be yourself". I have always been myself and confident, and that got me nowhere. Then I started 'not being myself' via game, and BAM! Many TRPers see how it's hard to have a nice monogamous loving relationship last forever, and RP tenets like hypergamy get in the way. I know I'm not alone in saying if there was a better way, I would ditch TRP in a second for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 08:13 PM
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Your entire ideology is based on everyone having innate biases that color everything they do or think. My ideology was developed as a result of my experiences. It goes the other way... If I have experience to the contrary, I will change my view again to a different ideology. No one has ever been helped by spirituality? And people HAVE been helped by game. Here's the timeline: I grow up a feminist / egalitarian My female classmates ignore me except for homework help. No positive responses when as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 01:16 PM
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I offer my experience of 'gaining female attraction only while acting like an asshat' as anecdotal evidence. I and many others find that attraction during 'game' is higher when not 'gaming'. She compares it to homeopathy, for which there is no anecdotal evidence beyond the control treatment. That is just trolling. Would you like to demonstrate how 'game' does not work or tell me why my experiences are biased, other than an insult as mrsamsa is using?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 12:40 PM
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This is surprising considering how all the top news stories this year were about the violence against female journalists in the middle east.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 09:54 PM
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As someone who grew up in a white middle-upper class suburb (the birthplace of feminism) I can tell you first hand that these women do not work. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/11/soap-opera-ratings-the-young-and-the-restless-up-in-total-viewers-women-18-49/208494/ http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/24/daytime-ratings-the-talk-tied-with-the-view/ These women watch TV, spend their husband's money (with unilateral control), and complain about how oppressed they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:24 PM
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http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html See the 'frequency of sex' table. Men have less sex than women when they're younger, then catch up when they're older. Also interesting to note is the 'partnered' column. Men are much more likely to be abstinent even while having a relationship that year. My hypothesis is that the 'alpha' guys that have sex are always in and out of relationships. And again, anecdotally this holds true. I don't know any aggressive horny guys that have trouble gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:11 PM
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That's the issue at hand though. How does the typical stay at home mother's work compare to the typical full time male worker? Sure, a woman CAN be a great mom who puts lots of time into their kids. And a man CAN work 2 full time jobs with overtime to best provide for his family. Potential is irrelevant. Also keep in mind men are much less likely to be in a 'clerical' office job than a woman. And millions of men are out being garbage men, truck drivers, farmers, and whatnot. Just because you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:49 PM
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I see that "10-20%" number thrown around a lot and it's very difficult for me to take it seriously. Where does it come from? the number itself is from the Pareto principle, though it is obviously more complex Personal observation (being on both sides of this thanks to GAME) Studies that show higher variability in male sexuality than female sexuality to explain why STDs are more prevalent in women - because all the women sleep with the few STD-ridden guys, while the STD-free guys are more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:31 PM
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Every child needs it's every biological, intellectual, and social function attended to for it to be a healthy child. I agree with this, and this is the crux of the issue. Most mothers are not raising healthy children. Childhood obesity and failure in education are rampant today. You can't really quit your kid. You can't quit, but you can phone it in. Being a good parent is a full time job. Being an average parent is 15 hours a week of busywork.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 07:18 PM
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I'm confused by your question, OP. If the current situation was satisfactory, there would be no RP There are two questions you could be asking. How would you characterize the perfect world to live in? Men and women are equal. All are equally responsible for their actions, held to the same standards, and treated equally. I know, crazy, but I am egalitarian at heart. 2.How would you describe the ideal way to navigate the current world and men/women interactions AS IS? The red pill. I've said it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 06:23 PM
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In fact, a baby can die of nothing explainable at all. It's called Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. I know someone who had their child die in the middle of the night due to this. So, in other words... The survival of your child is independent of how much effort you put into it? It's why as a parent you always have to make sure your kid is safe. 'checking on them' isn't going to prevent SIDS. change your kid's diapers and keep them fed 2-3 hours per day on average? Stay-at-home parents also usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 05:14 PM
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I believe that a 16 year old girl from 70 years ago would have kept her bearings more. 16 year old girl back then would have been looking forward to being a mother and knowing that kids can be a real trial at times. It comes with the job description. :-) 70 years ago, boy babysitters were preferred because everyone saw the girls at that age as too immature.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 04:49 PM
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Are you sure this is a thing? Sources? This is basically the 'paternal surrender' that MRAs want to exist but doesn't exist.
/r/askTRP11/10/13 05:16 PM
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Okay, let's review: she was denied from 15 institutions for a PhD position on the sole basis that she was a woman. The only position she could find at that time was a research assistant position which was unpaid, since she was a woman. Source? She openly states she opted to join the work force after her masters to save money. That's not in the link I gave, nor anything else I can find. As for the unpaid internship - men do that too. And this was not 'because she was a woman'. It was because the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:33 PM
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To start out, 'alphas' have never been a single unified identifiable group of people who are able to act in their own collective interests. In fact, many 'alphas' are identifiable by their strong personal ambition for their own success and wealth. So while an individual alpha may be a leader of his community, they could not establish an oligarchy as an other group of people, such as rich people forming the aristocracy. Speaking of aristocracy - this is what feminism really started rebelling agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 11:37 AM
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girls were expected to learn how to take care of the house at an early age, whereas boys were the ones who went on to study. To say this was true throughout history is disingenuous, dear. Women were business partners and equals through most history, even colonial America. The 'stay at home' trope was only present in the Victorian era. The existence of some women who rose above challenges to reach those positions does not negate the fact that those challenges existed. "No women are allowed educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 11:03 AM
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This thread had a lot of 'men getting together can do NO GOOD! http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1nlpy8/why_are_bluepillers_so_quick_to_excuse_poor/ Brolosophy: Any point of view deliberately untempered by some criticism or differing point of view to keep it in check is bound to become tyrannical, or at the very least completely out of touch with reality. I like debating and discussing things with guys, but getting a (mature) women's perspective on certain things can be equally r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 03:47 AM
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This is obviously a bullshit claim. Tell that to all of the Liberal Arts majors who have to work at starbucks. And again, if I had a degree in Park and Forestry services, would the presence of that degree increase my qualifications in this area? How is 'college' as a broad subject at all relevent? The only purpose to bring that up is to deflect irrelevent credentials. Or is your "education on the history of technology, literature, etc" self-taught (i.e. not a real education)? My formal collegiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 03:37 AM
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Please reread my statement I repeat attacking credentials as an appeal to discredit in an unrelated field is an ad hominem attack and does not validly discredit any argument it is used against. "college" has nothing to do with a scientific education. Especially since most degrees now are worthless, just used as a continuation of high school babysitting. He was merely using an immature deflection when he could not refute anything I said. And he still refuses. One thing people learn in college is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 03:14 AM
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I think the only time 'speech' can be a problem is when it transitions from 'speech' to 'inciting hate crimes / violence' and actual action. If it is necessarily restricted to words, then it should always be tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 01:28 AM
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What fallacy? Asking why 99% of the leaders of the computer age happen to be male? Asking why women aren't involved in things such as the public electrical works? I'm still waiting for some answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/13 12:00 AM
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What does my college education have to do with the lack of female-driven innovation? I'm curious how you want to explain it: A small number of men are more likely to be innovative Women are so much weaker psychologically and physically that they were unanimously put into place by men in all cultures who oppressed them via Patriarchy<sup>TM</sup> and were prevented from societal contribution You seem to be leaning towards misogyny with #2 there. Gish gallop has nothing to do with this, because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 11:34 PM
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http://www.phdcompletion.org/quantitative/PhDC_Program_Completion_Data_Demographic.pdf Women entering graduate programs (and especially hard sciences as studied in OP's PNAS study) drop or flunk out at a significantly higher rate than their male counterparts. Many PIs have careers that are seriously impacted by the departure of a student. Therefore many PIs with first- or second-hand experience of higher female attrition rates from former undergraduate students (as in OP's study) may be wary of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 11:23 PM
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Ad Hominem edit: because apparently 'logic' isn't big around here: attacking credentials as an appeal to discredit in an unrelated field is an ad hominem attack and does not validly discredit any argument it is used against.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 11:12 PM
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so again... I will direct you to the 'needle in the haystack'. I am not saying 'no woman ever invented anything'. I'm saying not enough are doing it and you can't always blame the patriarchy. This woman was basically seen as a god, as were many of her female colleagues who were not creative like her. And her actual work is pretty standard prayer-like boiler plate metaphors. She was no William Shakespeare. She's not famous because of her contribution, but because of the archaeological significanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:42 PM
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Why are the women "teenagers" and "young women" while the men are "adult men"? Most guys interested in the sex aspect of TRP are under 25, and close in age to the women they sleep with. Do you think all women are immature and stupid, or do you think they just mature much later than men? At what age does a woman become able to think for herself and not be 'tricked' into sex by a big smart man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:28 PM
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When your group advocates that sociopathic tendencies should be cultivated and getting laid is the only thing that matters What makes you think getting laid is the most important tenet of TRP? Have you seen posts of guys there who are literally tired of casual sex? Or guys who decided to abstain anyways? "MGTOW"? TRP is about understanding how sex works today, and how to improve yourself as a man in today's society. Look at the front page. Compare that to say, /r/seduction. How many TRP posts ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:15 PM
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women generally weren't allowed to be involved in academia historically Good thing most innovation and creation historically has taken place outside of academia then, huh? Other than maybe in the Victorian era I would venture to say that academia (with female exclusion) is even the exception and not the rule for innovation. Especially in the age of computers. It doesn't matter what gender you are when you shun academia and choose to risk your future spending tens of thousands of hours innovating…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 10:04 PM
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Teasing is just playful fun at anything you can do. What I've found to be important is: try to make it funny. Not to them necessarily, but to an outside observer. Never apologize. Don't back down. If she calls you on it, amplify. Clothes are fair game. Just don't look at it like a metrosexual. My go-to is calling them out on something hipster. If she flubs a word, you can make a running joke of using her pronunciation (this should be more deadpanned than emphasized). Make fun of her girly drinks…
/r/askTRP06/10/13 09:54 PM
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Good job for finding the needle in the haystack! She put out the first compiler while other people were working on the same thing. She didn't innovate the idea, and this 'compiler' is more of an arithmetic algorithm-following program than what is currently seen as a compiler (I think which starts with LISP in the 60's). People like to embellish the accomplishments of the few women like her and Lovelace, but it doesn't change the fact that without men, there would be no modern technology. Look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/13 04:19 PM
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Also, I do believe more women are entering the workforce and the military, so change is already happening on that front. Women are not going to the shit part of the work force, AKA the glass floor. Any dangerous job is going to be woman-free. Even the ones that don't require physical strength. Have you ever seen a woman in a harness repairing a power line? Also the women in the military are mostly in the reserves, and in active duty mostly in noncombat roles. They want to have 'combat-adjacent' …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 11:24 PM
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I think they're pro-women, and perhaps we could do with more pro-male advocacy to match. Here's the problem. Everyone says "well men just need better advocates". Money and resources are zero-sum. When you take all the funding for women's shelters, that necessarily excludes men. The feminists in charge know this. Do you think these feminists would characterize their actions that way? No. However they also refuse to acknowledge their lack of responsibility in society. Women don't do any dangerous …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 11:21 PM
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I can't figure out what you're referring to in the link about abuse. So I'm left wondering. Wouldn't TRP tell a suicidal teen to man up and take responsibility (and hit the gym and earn confidence)? If some guy is whining about how life is not fair and how girls don't like him, then we would tell him that. If some guy came on and said he was thinking of ending it, we'd tell him to get the fuck to a hospital/shrink before he hurts himself and everyone around him. Mental illness isn't something yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 11:17 PM
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Are you saying any advocacy that is narrowly tailored is intentionally exclusive and must by definition hate other solutions/problems? When the solution is 'fund women at the expense of male problems', yes. So MRAs are misogynists who don't want women to get support for rape or domestic abuse? LGBT don't want straight people to have a right to marry? Surely not. Unlike feminists, these groups want to have the same rights as everyone else. The feminists are pushing for (and acquiring) special tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 11:03 PM
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Then what exactly did you mean by equating men being "shamed" into dating old/slutty women or doing housework to a gay teen being bullied into suicide? One was an analogy for emotional abuse. Which is what many wives do to their husbands in the process of taking their balls away. Ironically, this is what also causes the wives to lose attraction to their husbands and divorce-rape them. I know that, and that's obviously a problem that needs addressing, no argument there. So why aren't women like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 10:11 PM
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I know what epigenetics are. When you have an epigenetic mark that blocks a certain gene, then the protein isn't produced and the gene might as well not be there at all. Oversimplistic and very lacking. I am having serious doubts as to your scientific comprehension on these topics as I have to repeat things over and over again. Both approaches yield estimated of genetic influence of just over 40%. I'm sorry but again you misread the paper. They could not account for 25% of the 'differences' foun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 10:03 PM
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This is not how proof works. We know these things exist. We know these things are sexist. We know these things are consistently renewed for more funding for women and no funding for men. Again, the proof of mere existence is already here in our global politics. MRAs get backlash for wanting to open up men's centers. Universities continue to fund women centers only. VAWA continues to ignore the 50% male DV victims. Male contraception or fathers rights never get a political platform as single moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:55 PM
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it's hardly comparable to the ostracism gay people have faced. Did you know that 80% of suicides are male? o you genuinely think dating a woman above the age of... what is it, 30? 25? or one who has had more than a certain number of sexual partners, is a fate worse than (or as bad as) death that no man would choose of his own free will? I'm not sure what to say to that, other than I disagree. Nice straw man there :) Maybe you should stop hating on men and be thankful that men invented the comput…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:46 PM
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epiGENETICS. They are modifications on your genes. Your DNA. This paper talks about a few more recent studies. Did you read the paper? Thus, about two-thirds of the reliable variance in measured personality traits is due to genetic influence. An important thing to note about things like epigenetic markers and SNPs and point mutations is that their manifestation IS NOT MENDELIAN. I pointed this out earlier, because even this 1994 study predates what we know about this. You can inherit a mutation …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:42 PM
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What makes you say that? These things I listed all have broad support and no political opposition. That is why they exist. And why there is violent pushback from the men who are trying to get rights in those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:32 PM
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Out of curiosity, if you read a story about a gay teen who was bullied until they commit suicide, is your first thought, "Fuck, that kid should have manned up and taken responsibility of his own life"? Emotional abuse is a bitch. And an important tool for feminists. Additionally, a lot of this 'shame' is not successful. There are tons of articles from older women chastising men for dating younger women. Doesn't mean the men stop. But the abuse is out there, and they are trying their hardest. edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:17 PM
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No, the point is that most behavior has a genetic component that is TOO COMPLEX for us to understand at this point. Can you find a study that is not 60 years old that still finds 50% of personality is independent of genetic makeup? As for identical twins: One word. EPIGENETICS. This is a very recent development we have only begun to scratch the surface of. When you have different stimulus (for autism, in the first year of your life, or even in utero) the molecules surrounding your DNA (and attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:13 PM
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So what are you doing to criticize the 100 million average American women (and some men) who either directly or indirectly support all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:08 PM
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I think you underestimate ACTUAL feminist impact from the mainstream. Feminists are responsible for preventing father's rights, for promoting the 'women are victims' shit, and preventing male rape and DV/DA victims from being able to find help. Feminists block men's centers while inflating women's center budgets with fake statistics. Feminists at their core want men to fund and be responsible for women's actions. And this affects national policy on a large scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 09:01 PM
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There are a couple instances of people trying to raise children gender-neutral or as the wrong gender and the experiment always fails spectacularly. This is true. To clarify - ALL of them end this way. It's just an uncommon experiment. Never has it worked well. Your study is from 1954. This was before almost ALL knowledge of deterministic behavior components such as neurotransmitters (I think at that point we only knew a little about nicotinic AChR). Many mental illnesses or minor quirks are cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 08:53 PM
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But isn't TRP sort of, I dunno, I guess...contributing to the ills? Absolutely not. There are a population of natural-born alphas who garner most female attention (the 80-20 rule, and all that). The small tiny minority of red pillers spend time learning how to transition into that group. I do agree that a lot of red pillers would give up at 'that's her biology' but many including myself do not. basically saying let someone else handle it, and I'll just have lots of sex in the meantime? What woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 08:45 PM
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As a red piller, there is nothing I would love more than to see woman 'man up' and take responsibility for their womanhood. Slutty past? Don't shame men into taking 26th place as provider. Hitting the wall? Stop shaming men for dating someone just like you but 15 years younger. Making your husband do feminine housework? Stop losing attraction to him after you emasculate him. Again, for the record, I would LOVE to see equality between the sexes. I would LOVE to see a world where Game does not wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 08:30 PM
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mainstream science has established that many of the differences we see in personality, preference, and behavior are determined by external factors. Source? There are a couple instances of people trying to raise children gender-neutral or as the wrong gender and the experiment always fails spectacularly. edit: behavior is LARGELY genetic. Neurotransmitter and receptor levels, genetic predisposition for diseases like schizophrenia and depression... I know this is not something that you will accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 08:12 PM
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Anything against a feminist agenda has a large bias against happening in today's social climate. Maybe check out /r/mensrights and see some of their megathreads for a big list of things that feminists actively fight against and suppress for men's equality. My problem is that I don't believe anyone should base their beliefs on a complete absence of reliably gathered scientific information. Absent of empirical support, why have an opinion at all? Scientific studies are not the only way to have an …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 07:46 PM
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One of the foundations of TRP is that men and women are in fact not the same exact thing, and as such should not be treated the same unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 07:36 PM
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But TRP has practically no scientific evidence to backup its theory. The few scientific studies I see posted there never support their assertions. This is the fundamental issue. It's all built on anecdotes and speculation, which both can be be subject to bias. You're absolutely right. But to my point: We don't claim this is 100% science. There are some interesting hormone and pheromone studies done that are rock solid. And little studies here and there that are interesting. But at the end of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 07:21 PM
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From the study: For example, females used more emotion words [86], [87] (e.g., ‘excited’), and first-person singulars [88], and they mention more psychological and social processes [34] (e.g., ‘love you’ and ‘3’ –a heart). Males used more swear words, object references (e.g., ‘xbox’ and swear words) One of the foundations of TRP is that men and women are in fact not the same exact thing, and as such should not be treated the same unconditionally. Women in this study were more traditional (emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 07:09 PM
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You misattribute the origin of TRP. TRPers did not start out saying "this is the red pill philosophy". I think understanding that is a big part of also being able to empathize with the men who go there. A lot of them are hurt or lonely because of what they now see as their blue pill behaviors. TRP is based on observation. A man observes his GF leaving him for a rich guy. A man observes a woman responding positively to being teased. A man observes being denied relationships after doing everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 06:59 PM
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You can't just extrapolate scientific studies like that. That's what the article did, and that's what TRP is doing. Both sides are speculative, and both sides are hypocrytical. Neither side is any more logical than the other. Again, that is a fair statement. But TRP is still being consistent with TRP ideals, which is what you claimed was being breached. TRP did not 'bash the study' as you said. They mostly thought it supported the existence of traditional gender roles. Not 'confirm beyond a reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 06:48 PM
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He is mocking how feminists work. They start with a conclusion (patriarchy) and then wrap anything they see around that. Then they get money from the government to tell more people about the patriarchy. "Women studies" assumes that women MUST be disadvantaged in all situations. Do you know what you call it when someone does a study after already deciding the results? Religion. edit: for clarification: This study is NOT feminist. It is just being reported with a feminist spin by this journalist. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 06:36 PM
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The men are clearly worried about how "manly" they are, women are worried about how pretty or "girly" they, and both are worried about how popular they are. I agree with this, and so I'm confused by the point in your post. What TRP response did you see that was unexpected? The quote you point out was not mocking the study, but the article. The article had to be written with a 'feminist' narrative to explain why a women would ever dare act feminine. Patriarchy, duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/13 06:23 PM
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